From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun May 9 18:18:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from xwin.nmhtech.com (xwin.nmhtech.com [208.138.46.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF6E154E2 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 18:18:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicole@xwin.nmhtech.com) Received: by xwin.nmhtech.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C18C72EE1A; Sun, 9 May 1999 18:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Content-Length: 2192 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <000401be9889$0c5dadc0$3000000a@cjames.corp.opensite.com> Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 18:18:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicole Harrington To: Cathy James , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Motherboard comparisons Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 07-May-99 My Secret Spies Reported That Cathy James wrote: >=20 >>I just ordered 3 motherboards for testing with the AMD k-6III 400. I >>think they were (PO's at work) TYAN, FIC, ASUS. Since it seems a lot >>of people are curious, I will post my tests when I get done in abt a week= . >=20 > Did you ever post this, Nicole, or is it still a work in progress? >=20 Hmm.. Poke poke... Well so far it is sort of work in progress. I found that Tyan does not have a 100Mhz buss ATX socket 7 MB, only AT. No good.=20 Asus works great, however with the particulat setup I had I kept getting s= tuck at the "waiting 15 secounds for SCSI devices." I had a bunch of LVD drives hanging off of an adaptec 2940U2W card. I had the same problem with the FIC board. Thus no tests for either. Gigabyte MB worked great with a K6/2-400 and the K6/3-400. The K6/3-400 is worth the price. It is F A S T. I plan on using that with the gigabyte MB = for my servers for a bunch of things. I didn't do any real bench marking as I didn't have time (and they kicked me out of the lab to put in shelves) but = I found the K6/3-400 visably faster than the K6/2-400. I still have a Epox MB to test. Epox has in the past been ok, but at times unstable. Thus I just decided to go with the Gigabyte Board. It has been ro= ck solid in all my tests. BTW, my application is for the new FreeBSD port of the Inktomi caching software. Good stuff! I plan on talking about it at the next BAFUG meeting. (www.bafug.org) Hope this helps. Nicole > Cathy James > |\ __ /| (`\ =20 | o_o |__ ) ) =20 // \\ =20 nicole@nmhtech.com | http://www.webweaver.net/ webmistress@dangermouse.org | http://www.dangermouse.org -------------------------(((---(((----------------------- =20 - Powered by Coka Cola and FreeBSD - - Strong enough for a man - But made for a Woman - =20 - I'm not ADD - I'm just Multithreaded - - Microsoft: What bug would you like today? - ---------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun May 9 19: 4:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from cobalt.novagate.net (cobalt.novagate.net [205.138.138.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAD7814C97 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 19:04:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from xlogan@novagate.net) Received: from cobalt (IDENT:xlogan@cobalt [205.138.138.17]) by cobalt.novagate.net (8.9.2/8.8.7) with SMTP id XAA28796 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 23:06:23 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 23:06:23 -0400 (EDT) From: x@asdf.com X-Sender: xlogan@cobalt.novagate.net To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Motherboard comparisons In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, On Sun, 9 May 1999, Nicole Harrington wrote: > Asus works great, however with the particulat setup I had I kept getting stuck > at the "waiting 15 secounds for SCSI devices." I had a bunch of LVD drives > hanging off of an adaptec 2940U2W card. I had the same problem with the FIC > board. Thus no tests for either. The same thing is happening to me now. I have an ASUS P2B-LS. I notice when this happens the LED on my mobile HD rack turns on and stays on, and I have to push the reset button. Even if I press the power button it will not turn off. Funny thing is, I added the 'set boot_verbose' command into the loader.rc file to see if I could get any more info as to why this is happening, and so far it hasn't happened again since I added that line :-) We'll see. Oh, I have MB rev 1007 with the onboard SCSI bios at 2.0.1. I am only using one IBM U2 U-star 9 gig drive. It doesn't hang all the time like I said above, and sometimes even booting into Windows it will hang. I was going to investigate further and maybe upgrade the MB bios to see if it helps any. -Dan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun May 9 20:17:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 519DD14FE2 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 20:17:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id VAA72743; Sun, 9 May 1999 21:17:46 -0600 (MDT) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199905100317.VAA72743@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: Motherboard comparisons In-Reply-To: from "x@asdf.com" at "May 9, 1999 11: 6:23 pm" To: x@asdf.com Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 21:17:46 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org x@asdf.com wrote... > Hello, > > On Sun, 9 May 1999, Nicole Harrington wrote: > > > Asus works great, however with the particulat setup I had I kept getting stuck > > at the "waiting 15 secounds for SCSI devices." I had a bunch of LVD drives > > hanging off of an adaptec 2940U2W card. I had the same problem with the FIC > > board. Thus no tests for either. > > The same thing is happening to me now. I have an ASUS P2B-LS. I notice > when this happens the LED on my mobile HD rack turns on and stays on, and > I have to push the reset button. Even if I press the power button it will > not turn off. Funny thing is, I added the 'set boot_verbose' command into > the loader.rc file to see if I could get any more info as to why this is > happening, and so far it hasn't happened again since I added that line :-) > We'll see. > > Oh, I have MB rev 1007 with the onboard SCSI bios at 2.0.1. I am only > using one IBM U2 U-star 9 gig drive. It doesn't hang all the time like I > said above, and sometimes even booting into Windows it will hang. I was > going to investigate further and maybe upgrade the MB bios to see if it > helps any. There's a known hang problem with Adatpec 7890 chips. Justin has asked Adaptec for information on the problem so he can work around it, but so far he hasn't gotten anything. It's a timing-related bug, so it's not surprising that booting verbose "fixed" the problem. The extra printfs probably did the trick. I would suggest reading the freebsd-scsi list, so you can find out about problems like this... Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun May 9 22:40:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from rapier.goldsword.com (rapier.goldsword.com [199.170.202.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5266614D0B for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 22:40:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfarmer@goldsword.com) Received: (from jfarmer@localhost) by rapier.goldsword.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA07697; Mon, 10 May 1999 01:47:48 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 01:47:48 -0400 (EDT) From: "John T. Farmer" Message-Id: <199905100547.BAA07697@rapier.goldsword.com> To: cjames@opensite.com, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, nicole@nmhtech.com Subject: RE: Motherboard comparisons Cc: jfarmer@goldsword.com In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 09 May 1999 18:18:21 Nicole Harrington said: > On 07-May-99 My Secret Spies Reported That Cathy James wrote: > >>I just ordered 3 motherboards for testing with the AMD k-6III 400. I > >>think they were (PO's at work) TYAN, FIC, ASUS. Since it seems a lot > >>of people are curious, I will post my tests when I get done in abt a week. > > > > Did you ever post this, Nicole, or is it still a work in progress? > > Hmm.. Poke poke... > > Well so far it is sort of work in progress. > > I found that Tyan does not have a 100Mhz buss ATX socket 7 MB, only AT. No > good. Buzz! Not True! Tyan makes the S1590S Trinity 100 AT with the VIA Apollo MVP3 AGPset chipset. This board is solid and _very_ stable. It also supports parity & ECC memory operations at the 100Mhz level (see comment about the ASUS below). This is _the_board_ to use (IMHO) for low cost, high performance servers (I've used it in both FreeBSD and Netware5 systems without a probem.) It will also work with either AT or ATX style power supplies (for extra control/monitoring...) The pure ATX version is the S1592S Trinity ATX. Look at: I've used the AHA-2940U2W card with the Tyan S1590S in Netware servers were they "just work" (at Mach speed!!). Under FreeBSD, I've settled in the Diamond Fireport series for low cost with super performance. > Asus works great, however with the particulat setup I had I kept getting > stuck at the "waiting 15 secounds for SCSI devices." I had a bunch of LVD > drives hanging off of an adaptec 2940U2W card. I had the same problem with > the FIC board. Thus no tests for either. I have two downchecks on the ASUS P5A (P5A-B for AT format). The first is that it only supports parity & ECC memory operation at 66Mhz. The second is that the very first board I received died during burn-in, delaying the delivery of a system to a client by a couple of weeks. (Picky, I know, but it was the _first_ ASUS board I had do that.) I gave the client a different board & put the replacement P5A-B in my personal WinDoze machine with non-parity SDRAM. So far so good. > Gigabyte MB worked great with a K6/2-400 and the K6/3-400. The K6/3-400 is > worth the price. It is F A S T. I plan on using that with the gigabyte MB for > my servers for a bunch of things. I didn't do any real bench marking as I > didn't have time (and they kicked me out of the lab to put in shelves) but I > found the K6/3-400 visably faster than the K6/2-400. > > I still have a Epox MB to test. Epox has in the past been ok, but at times > unstable. Thus I just decided to go with the Gigabyte Board. It has been rock > solid in all my tests. I haven't tried the Gigabyte or the Epox boards. The farthest I've strayed from ASUS or Tyan is to try in the Tekram and DFI Super Socket7 boards for Win-9x boxes (clients, you know...) > BTW, my application is for the new FreeBSD port of the Inktomi caching > software. Good stuff! I plan on talking about it at the next BAFUG meeting. > (www.bafug.org) > Tell us more!!! John ---------------------------------------------------------------------- John T. Farmer Owner & CTO GoldSword Systems jfarmer@goldsword.com 423-691-6498 Knoxville TN Internet Services & Servers, Network Design, Consulting To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 10 0:20:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from xwin.nmhtech.com (xwin.nmhtech.com [208.138.46.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A1E1554C for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 00:20:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicole@xwin.nmhtech.com) Received: by xwin.nmhtech.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DD6CD2EE1A; Mon, 10 May 1999 00:20:11 -0700 (PDT) Content-Length: 3031 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.2 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199905100547.BAA07697@rapier.goldsword.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 00:20:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Nicole Harrington To: "John T. Farmer" Subject: RE: Motherboard comparisons Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, cjames@opensite.com Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 10-May-99 My Secret Spies Reported That John T. Farmer wrote: >=20 > On Sun, 09 May 1999 18:18:21 Nicole Harrington said: >> On 07-May-99 My Secret Spies Reported That Cathy James wrote: >> >>I just ordered 3 motherboards for testing with the AMD k-6III 400. I >> >>think they were (PO's at work) TYAN, FIC, ASUS. Since it seems a lot >> >>of people are curious, I will post my tests when I get done in abt a w= eek. >> >=20 >> > Did you ever post this, Nicole, or is it still a work in progres= s? >> >> Hmm.. Poke poke... >> >> Well so far it is sort of work in progress. >> >> I found that Tyan does not have a 100Mhz buss ATX socket 7 MB, only AT.= No >> good.=20 >=20 > Buzz! Not True! Tyan makes the S1590S Trinity 100 AT with the VIA Apoll= o=20 > MVP3 AGPset chipset. This board is solid and _very_ stable. It also=20 > supports parity & ECC memory operations at the 100Mhz level (see comment > about the ASUS below). > This is _the_board_ to use (IMHO) for low cost, high performance servers > (I've used it in both FreeBSD and Netware5 systems without a probem.) >=20 > It will also work with either AT or ATX style power supplies (for extra > control/monitoring...) > The pure ATX version is the S1592S Trinity ATX. Look at: > >=20 That may be, however as stated. It is an AT board, not what I needed. The board you have listed above does not handle 100MHZ Bus speeds. Thus K6-400 = is not an option on it :<. I know I made the same mistake. Luckely my supplier makes exchanges. >> BTW, my application is for the new FreeBSD port of the Inktomi caching >> software. Good stuff! I plan on talking about it at the next BAFUG meeti= ng. >> (www.bafug.org) >> >=20 > Tell us more!!! >=20 Well, since you can't come to the meeting, please check the bafug website = ater the meeting for more info. Also please feel free to visit www.inktomi.com. Nicole > John >=20 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > John T. Farmer Owner & CTO GoldSword Systems > jfarmer@goldsword.com 423-691-6498 Knoxville TN > Internet Services & Servers, Network Design, Consulting >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message |\ __ /| (`\ =20 | o_o |__ ) ) =20 // \\ =20 nicole@nmhtech.com | http://www.webweaver.net/ webmistress@dangermouse.org | http://www.dangermouse.org -------------------------(((---(((----------------------- =20 - Powered by Coka Cola and FreeBSD - - Strong enough for a man - But made for a Woman - =20 - I'm not ADD - I'm just Multithreaded - - Microsoft: What bug would you like today? - ---------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 10 7:11:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from rapier.goldsword.com (rapier.goldsword.com [199.170.202.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4D06152E5 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 07:11:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfarmer@goldsword.com) Received: (from jfarmer@localhost) by rapier.goldsword.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA08641; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:20:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:20:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "John T. Farmer" Message-Id: <199905101420.KAA08641@rapier.goldsword.com> To: jfarmer@goldsword.com, nicole@nmhtech.com Subject: RE: Motherboard comparisons Cc: cjames@opensite.com, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 10 May 1999 00:20:11 Nicole Harrington said: > On 10-May-99 My Secret Spies Reported That John T. Farmer wrote: > > On Sun, 09 May 1999 18:18:21 Nicole Harrington said: > >> On 07-May-99 My Secret Spies Reported That Cathy James wrote: > >> >>I just ordered 3 motherboards for testing with the AMD k-6III 400. I > >> >>think they were (PO's at work) TYAN, FIC, ASUS. Since it seems a lot > >> >>of people are curious, I will post my tests when I get done in abt a week. > >> > > >> > Did you ever post this, Nicole, or is it still a work in progress? > >> > >> Hmm.. Poke poke... > >> > >> Well so far it is sort of work in progress. > >> > >> I found that Tyan does not have a 100Mhz buss ATX socket 7 MB, only AT. No > >> good. > > > > Buzz! Not True! Tyan makes the S1590S Trinity 100 AT with the VIA Apollo > > MVP3 AGPset chipset. This board is solid and _very_ stable. It also > > supports parity & ECC memory operations at the 100Mhz level (see comment > > about the ASUS below). > > This is _the_board_ to use (IMHO) for low cost, high performance servers > > (I've used it in both FreeBSD and Netware5 systems without a probem.) > > > > It will also work with either AT or ATX style power supplies (for extra > > control/monitoring...) > > The pure ATX version is the S1592S Trinity ATX. Look at: > > > > > > That may be, however as stated. It is an AT board, not what I needed. The > board you have listed above does not handle 100MHZ Bus speeds. Thus K6-400 is > not an option on it :<. I know I made the same mistake. Luckely my supplier > makes exchanges. Sorry, my bad. I should know at this stage in my life to not trust statements made by some of my wholesale sources (or to answer mail after a very long day...). I predominantly use AT format boards for servers (rarely need or care about serial or parallel ports...) and I took my vendor's statement at face value... It is indeed a shame. While I like ASUS P5A series for low cost systems, the Tyan S1590S is a truely excellent board (AT format thou!!) > > > >> BTW, my application is for the new FreeBSD port of the Inktomi caching > >> software. Good stuff! I plan on talking about it at the next BAFUG meeting. > >> (www.bafug.org) > >> > > > > Tell us more!!! > > > > Well, since you can't come to the meeting, please check the bafug website ater > the meeting for more info. Also please feel free to visit www.inktomi.com. > > Nicole Just did & added them to my FreeBSD/ISP related bookmarks! John ---------------------------------------------------------------------- John T. Farmer Owner & CTO GoldSword Systems jfarmer@goldsword.com 423-691-6498 Knoxville TN Internet Services & Servers, Network Design, Consulting To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 10 11:37:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com (parker-T1-2-gw.sf3d.best.net [209.157.165.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FE6D14F64 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:37:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jas@flyingfox.com) Received: (from jas@localhost) by biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id MAA01888; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:39:52 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:39:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Jim Shankland Message-Id: <199905101939.MAA01888@biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com> To: jfarmer@goldsword.com Subject: RE: Motherboard comparisons Cc: hardware@freebsd.org, support@tyan.com In-Reply-To: <199905100547.BAA07697@rapier.goldsword.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "John T. Farmer" writes: > Tyan makes the S1590S Trinity 100 AT with the VIA Apollo MVP3 > AGPset chipset. This board is solid and _very_ stable. It also > supports parity & ECC memory operations at the 100Mhz level (see > comment about the ASUS below). > This is > _the_board_ to use (IMHO) for low cost, high performance servers > (I've used it in both FreeBSD and Netware5 systems without a > probem.) > > It will also work with either AT or ATX style power supplies (for extra > control/monitoring...) > > The pure ATX version is the S1592S Trinity ATX. Look at: > Can the ATX version of this board be configured to turn itself back on after a power failure? We found the Asus P5A could not, which makes the board useless for server operation, in my opinion. (Yes, I know servers should be on UPS's, but sometimes they just aren't, and UPS's can fail, and there's nothing like having to have somebody drive 50 miles to a remote site at 3 a.m. because there was a 30-second power failure, and now your server is off until somebody goes and presses the soft "on" button.) We're considering reverting to the AT form factor because of this stupidity. Jim Shankland NLynx Systems, Inc. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 10 14:50: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (border.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9CE7151BE for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:49:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@auss2.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <40322>; Tue, 11 May 1999 07:35:08 +1000 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 07:49:50 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: RE: Motherboard comparisons To: jas@flyingfox.com Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <99May11.073508est.40322@border.alcanet.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jim Shankland wrote: >Can the ATX version of this board be configured to turn itself >back on after a power failure? ... there's nothing like >having to have somebody drive 50 miles to a remote site at 3 >a.m. because there was a 30-second power failure, and now your >server is off until somebody goes and presses the soft "on" >button.) It should be a fairly trivial task to build a small board that automatically does this for any ATX PSU/MB. The simplest would be a relay or transistor that shorts the soft-on switch unless the PSU's main 5v rail (or power good) signal is active. (This does mean you can't turn the machine _off_, without pulling the cord, but servers are always on anyway.) With a bit more logic, it should be possible to rig it so that the machine will stay off if told to power off, but automatically turn on when mains power is applied. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 10 20: 3:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from poseidon.hamsterville.ultranet.com (poseidon.hamsterville.ultranet.com [209.6.79.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA36F1522E for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 20:03:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@hamsterville.ultranet.com) Received: from BenGoodwin (dyn2.hamsterville.ultranet.com [209.6.79.23]) by poseidon.hamsterville.ultranet.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id XAA25968; Mon, 10 May 1999 23:02:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00b701be9b5a$b11296e0$174f06d1@hamsterville.ultranet.com> From: "Ben Goodwin" To: "Jim Shankland" Cc: References: <199905101939.MAA01888@biggusdiskus.flyingfox.com> Subject: Re: Motherboard comparisons Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 23:02:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It depends on the motherboard. Check the bios settings to see if there's a setting for what to do when power is restored to the motherboard. Often you can set it to "last state", "always on", and "always off" -=| Ben > Can the ATX version of this board be configured to turn itself > back on after a power failure? We found the Asus P5A could not, > which makes the board useless for server operation, in my > opinion. (Yes, I know servers should be on UPS's, but sometimes > they just aren't, and UPS's can fail, and there's nothing like > having to have somebody drive 50 miles to a remote site at 3 > a.m. because there was a 30-second power failure, and now your > server is off until somebody goes and presses the soft "on" > button.) > > We're considering reverting to the AT form factor because of this > stupidity. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue May 11 9:15:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mag.ik.nu (unknown [194.151.118.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1691515108 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:15:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from e@ik.nu) Received: (from edwinm@localhost) by mag.ik.nu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id SAA14770 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 May 1999 18:15:22 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199905111615.SAA14770@mag.ik.nu> Subject: PCI64V (ES1371) drivers for FreeBSD? To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:15:21 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: fbsd_hw@edwinm.ik.nu From: fbsd_hw@edwinm.ik.nu X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL38 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi. Can anybody tell me if there is a driver for the PCI64V audio board from Creative Labs? My boss gave me a PC with such a card, and now I want it to make nice noises when I run FreeBSD. If there isn't a driver available, I'll start porting the Linux driver to FreeBSD. But I'd rather safe me the trouble of doing so :-) Edwin -- Edwin Mons | ...and the LART shall reign, and the e@remove.this.for.nonspam.ik.nu | daemons shall conquer the evil fortresses http://www.mons.net | of the beast of NT and their leagues of FreeBSD - the power to serve | management and MicroDrones... -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d- s: a-->+++ C+ UBLSC++++$ P++ L- E--- W+ N+ !o K- w--- O M V-- PS(+) PE- Y PGP t+(++) 5- X- R tv+ b++() DI+ D---- G++ e++ h+(++) r->+++ y? ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue May 11 11:41:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.netvision.net.il (alpha.netvision.net.il [194.90.1.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7200B15145; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:41:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spud@i.am) Received: from Tomer.DrugsAreGood.org (RAS6-p3.hfa.netvision.net.il [62.0.147.131]) by alpha.netvision.net.il (8.9.3/8.8.6) with SMTP id VAA28959; Tue, 11 May 1999 21:41:26 +0300 (IDT) From: Tomer Weller To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.Org, FreeBSD Current Subject: Scanners Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 21:24:35 +0300 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99051121261500.00272@Tomer.DrugsAreGood.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i got a new UMAX Atrsa 1220P scanner, i have no idea how to configure this in FreeBSD or Linux (or if i even can), im on 4.0-CURRENT. ====================================== Tomer Weller spud@i.am wellers@netvision.net.il "Drugs are good, and if you do'em pepole think that you're cool", NoFX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue May 11 15:17:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from orion.ac.hmc.edu (Orion.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED49B15680 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:17:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brooks@one-eyed-alien.net) Received: from localhost (brdavis@localhost) by orion.ac.hmc.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA29609 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:17:46 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: orion.ac.hmc.edu: brdavis owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 15:17:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Brooks Davis X-Sender: brdavis@orion.ac.hmc.edu To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Sony VAIO F-series Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm trying to find a laptop for work to buy me and the Sony VAIO F-series laptops look really good. I've seen at least one FreeBSD person raving about them, but I'd like some more information about them under FreeBSD. Specificaly what works and what doesn't. Primarirly, would the DVD-ROM drive work like a CD player for me or just not work at all, does the ethernet adaptor in the port replicator work, and how well does the video work under X. Also, comments about the sound and modem support would be helpful. Thanks for your input, Brooks Davis -- "Those who desire to give up freedom in order to gain security, will not have, nor do they deserve, either one" --Thomas Jefferson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue May 11 17:11:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from conan.dyndns.org (cx31243-a.pwtkt1.ri.home.com [24.0.245.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1392814D4E; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:11:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eric@conan.dyndns.org) Received: from localhost (eric@localhost) by conan.dyndns.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA00508; Tue, 11 May 1999 20:12:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from eric@conan.dyndns.org) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 20:12:47 -0400 (EDT) From: eric To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: SoundBlaster Vibra16 [pnp] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all,. I have a SoundBlaster Vibra 16 [pnp] and i make a new kernel.. but.. i got errors when trying to correct something io= 0x220 irq=5 dma=1 can someone tell me the exact line[s] to put in the the MYKERNEL file [thats what i call the new one i made] thanks . [eric,vader] [use the force] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue May 11 19:46:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from roam.psg.com (mg-20425420-34.ricochet.net [204.254.20.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBBCD150DD for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:46:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: by roam.psg.com id m10hP2c-00000BC; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:46:38 -0700 (PDT) (Smail3.2.0.101#2) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:46:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: eric Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SoundBlaster Vibra16 [pnp] References: Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I have a SoundBlaster Vibra 16 [pnp] and i make a new kernel.. but.. i got > errors when trying to correct something > > io= 0x220 > irq=5 > dma=1 > > can someone tell me the exact line[s] to put in the the MYKERNEL file > [thats what i call the new one i made] device pcm1 at isa? port? tty irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x0 vector pcmintr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 12 1:10: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from cheddar.netmonger.net (cheddar.netmonger.net [209.54.21.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC81C1509C for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 01:09:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@cheddar.netmonger.net) Received: (from chris@localhost) by cheddar.netmonger.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA28131; Wed, 12 May 1999 04:09:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990512040934.A27975@netmonger.net> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 04:09:34 -0400 From: Christopher Masto To: Al Senin , hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Exabyte Eagle TR-3 References: <373146AC.34522D9B@tigris.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <373146AC.34522D9B@tigris.ru>; from Al Senin on Thu, May 06, 1999 at 01:37:16PM +0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, May 06, 1999 at 01:37:16PM +0600, Al Senin wrote: > Hi! > > Does anybody have an ideas about how to install Exabyte Eagle TR-3 > tape drive with FDD interface under FreeBSD? Yes. Give up. The floppy tape system needs serious work. I was hoping to do this work at one point, but every aspect of it is a serious pain in the ass. I suspect that now that IDE tape is an option for those on a non-SCSI budget, there's a good chance that nobody will ever update the floppy tape stuff. -- Christopher Masto Senior Network Monkey NetMonger Communications chris@netmonger.net info@netmonger.net http://www.netmonger.net Free yourself, free your machine, free the daemon -- http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 12 1:18:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BA1814C12 for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 01:18:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by phk.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA23818; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:18:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA03781; Wed, 12 May 1999 10:18:14 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Christopher Masto Cc: Al Senin , hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Exabyte Eagle TR-3 In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 12 May 1999 04:09:34 EDT." <19990512040934.A27975@netmonger.net> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 10:18:13 +0200 Message-ID: <3779.926497093@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <19990512040934.A27975@netmonger.net>, Christopher Masto writes: >On Thu, May 06, 1999 at 01:37:16PM +0600, Al Senin wrote: >> Hi! >> >> Does anybody have an ideas about how to install Exabyte Eagle TR-3 >> tape drive with FDD interface under FreeBSD? > >Yes. > >Give up. > >The floppy tape system needs serious work. I was hoping to do this >work at one point, but every aspect of it is a serious pain in the >ass. I suspect that now that IDE tape is an option for those on a >non-SCSI budget, there's a good chance that nobody will ever update >the floppy tape stuff. And atapi tapes are much faster than floppy tapes anyway... -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 12 4: 0:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from conan.dyndns.org (cx31243-a.pwtkt1.ri.home.com [24.0.245.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA76115077; Wed, 12 May 1999 04:00:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eric@conan.dyndns.org) Received: from localhost (eric@localhost) by conan.dyndns.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id HAA00306; Wed, 12 May 1999 07:01:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from eric@conan.dyndns.org) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 07:01:41 -0400 (EDT) From: -eRiC- To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: re: Re: SoundBlaster 16 Vibra 16 [pnp] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi it's me again.. thanks for helping.. but it isnt quite working.. i got this kernel message This is a Vibra16 but LDN0 is disabled Whats that supposed to mean? . [eric,vader] [use the force] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 12 5:17:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.netvision.net.il (alpha.netvision.net.il [194.90.1.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8243714E88; Wed, 12 May 1999 05:17:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spud@i.am) Received: from Tomer.DrugsAreGood.org (RAS2-p108.hfa.netvision.net.il [62.0.145.236]) by alpha.netvision.net.il (8.9.3/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA04182; Wed, 12 May 1999 15:17:07 +0300 (IDT) From: Tomer Weller To: FreeBSD Hardware , FreeBSD Questions Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 14:55:43 +0300 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99051215015300.00345@Tomer.DrugsAreGood.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i have a soundcard that emulates SBPro, in dmesg, i get : sb0 at port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa0 NOTE! SB Pro support required with your soundcard! snd0: this works fine (8 bits), but : mixer: SOUND_MIXER_READ_DEVMASK: Device not configured and i can't use the mixer. this is my configuration : controller snd0 options SBC_IRQ=5 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 conflicts drq 1 device mpu0 at isa? port 0x330 irq 9 device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 conflicts i tried using PCM but when i tried playing things, i only got noise, can any1 please tell me how to solve my issue with voxware, or tell me how to configure my card in PCM ? (dont send me to the docs, read them all) i should also have micorsoft sound system emulation, but that doesn't work at all.. ====================================== Tomer Weller spud@i.am wellers@netvision.net.il "Drugs are good, and if you do'em pepole think that you're cool", NoFX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 12 8: 9:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from dns.MexComUSA.NET (sj-dsl-9-161-065.dspeed.net [209.249.161.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12E1615B79; Wed, 12 May 1999 08:09:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@MexComUSA.net) Received: from MexComUSA.net (cm-208-138-47-186.cableco-op.ispchannel.com [208.138.47.186]) by dns.MexComUSA.NET (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA88458; Wed, 12 May 1999 08:09:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@MexComUSA.net) Message-ID: <373999B8.FB2D0990@MexComUSA.net> Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 08:09:44 -0700 From: Edwin Culp Organization: Mexico Communicates X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tomer Weller Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD Current Subject: Re: Scanners References: <99051121261500.00272@Tomer.DrugsAreGood.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tomer Weller wrote: > i got a new UMAX Atrsa 1220P scanner, i have no idea how to configure this in > FreeBSD or Linux (or if i even can), im on 4.0-CURRENT. > ====================================== > Tomer Weller > spud@i.am > wellers@netvision.net.il > "Drugs are good, and if you do'em > pepole think that you're cool", NoFX > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message Have you tried /usr/ports/graphics/sane? ed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 12 18: 2:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from geo.geocast.net (geo.geocast.net [128.177.240.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4165A14CFD for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 18:02:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from castor@geocast.net) Received: from localhost (castor@localhost) by geo.geocast.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA09595; Wed, 12 May 1999 18:02:44 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 18:02:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Castor Fu To: Nicole Harrington Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Motherboard comparisons In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 9 May 1999, Nicole Harrington wrote: > On 07-May-99 My Secret Spies Reported That Cathy James wrote: > > > >>I just ordered 3 motherboards for testing with the AMD k-6III 400. I > >>think they were (PO's at work) TYAN, FIC, ASUS. Since it seems a lot > >>of people are curious, I will post my tests when I get done in abt a week. > > > > Did you ever post this, Nicole, or is it still a work in progress? > > > > Hmm.. Poke poke... . . . > I still have a Epox MB to test. Epox has in the past been ok, but at times > unstable. Thus I just decided to go with the Gigabyte Board. It has been rock > solid in all my tests. I just had my Epox MVP-3 based board die on me after about 4 months of use. Not statistically significant, but annoying to me. Having lots of PCI slots and DIMM sockets seems nice, but I'm leary of actually pushing it that hard. -castor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 14 15: 3:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost.xciv.org (vantage.xciv.org [193.128.6.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDB17151EB for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 15:03:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@xciv.org) Received: from vantage.xciv.org [193.128.6.138] (paul) by mailhost.xciv.org with esmtp id 10iQ2u-00078m-00; Fri, 14 May 1999 23:03:08 +0100 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Need help diagnosing hardware problem Organization: XCIV, London UK Reply-To: paul@xciv.org Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 23:03:07 +0100 From: Paul Civati Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a 486DX4-100, which ran FreeBSD 2.1.0-R fine for about a year, it was then left unused for a while when I upgraded to a new machine. I've now replaced the IDE disk with a (brand new) and IBM DDRS-34560 disk. The machine has installed 2.2.8-R fine, and built a new kernel, but I have problems doing things like (with large files): # gzip -dc linux-2.0.36.tar.gz > test gzip: linux-2.0.36.tar.gz: invalid compressed data--crc error # ls -l test -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 30228603 May 14 22:24 test # gzip -l linux-2.0.36.tar.gz compressed uncompr. ratio uncompressed_name 7269221 30228480 75.9% linux-2.0.36.tar # gzip -dc fbsd227-srcsys.tar.gz > test gzip: fbsd227-srcsys.tar.gz: invalid compressed data--crc error # ls -l test -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 51681603 May 14 22:50 test # gzip -l fbsd227-srcsys.tar.gz compressed uncompr. ratio uncompressed_name 11012524 51681280 78.6% fbsd227-srcsys.tar (I have used md5 to verify the tar files havn't been corrupted, they extract fine on another machine, and there is plenty of free disk space to extract them). I don't *think* it's a memory problem, as I'm not getting any sig11 errors when compiling, and I've tried running with each 16M SIMM separately. (I also don't think it's an o/s problem, a test linux install exhibited the same problem with the above test). Parity is enabled on both controller and disk, and the disk is terminated (it's the only device). There are a few PCI related options in the system BIOS, but the (Gigabyte 486-AM) m/b manual doesn't give any useful info other than 'enable to enable this feature, disable to disable this feature' for a lot of them. :/ I'm thinking it's either a SCSI problem or one of the BIOS options that didn't effect the system when it was IDE based. Anyone have any tips on what the problem might be? -Paul- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 14 18:39:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from goa.stepnet.com (goa.stepnet.com [206.14.120.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 852D114EE3 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 18:39:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ping@stepnet.com) Received: (from ping@localhost) by goa.stepnet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA04128 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Fri, 14 May 1999 18:39:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ping) From: Ping Mai Message-Id: <199905150139.SAA04128@goa.stepnet.com> Subject: video card recommendation? To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 18:39:29 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Can someone recommend a good video card that works well in XFree86 and WinNT? Does the Matrox MGA-200 work with Xfree? Thanks, ping To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 14 21: 1:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from 001101.zer0.org (001101.zer0.org [206.24.105.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B035814F47 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 21:01:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gsutter@001101.zer0.org) Received: (from gsutter@localhost) by 001101.zer0.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id VAA15915; Fri, 14 May 1999 21:00:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gsutter) Date: Fri, 14 May 1999 21:00:33 -0700 From: Gregory Sutter To: Ping Mai Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: video card recommendation? Message-ID: <19990514210032.X55051@001101.zer0.org> References: <199905150139.SAA04128@goa.stepnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199905150139.SAA04128@goa.stepnet.com>; from Ping Mai on Fri, May 14, 1999 at 06:39:29PM -0700 Organization: Zer0 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, May 14, 1999 at 06:39:29PM -0700, Ping Mai wrote: > > Can someone recommend a good video card that works well in > XFree86 and WinNT? Does the Matrox MGA-200 work with > Xfree? If you're not doing 3D, and are running XFree 3.3.3.1 or newer, then I wholeheartedly recommend the Matrox Millennium G200. It is lightning fast. Greg -- Gregory S. Sutter Mostly Harmless mailto:gsutter@pobox.com http://www.pobox.com/~gsutter/ PGP DSS public key 0x40AE3052 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 14 23:35:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from cheddar.netmonger.net (cheddar.netmonger.net [209.54.21.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5738014C28 for ; Fri, 14 May 1999 23:35:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@cheddar.netmonger.net) Received: (from chris@localhost) by cheddar.netmonger.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA23298; Sat, 15 May 1999 02:35:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990515023542.A23275@netmonger.net> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 02:35:42 -0400 From: Christopher Masto To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: USB/current/newbus/VAIO Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just got a Sony 505TX and I'm running into: uhci0: at device 7.2 on pci0 uhci0: could not map ports device_probe_and_attach: uhci0 attach returned 6 Is this something I should expect to work at the moment? I've turned up all the debugging, boot -v, etc., but there seems to be no additional detail available. If there's anything I can do to provide more information, I'd be glad to do it. Here's my kernel config.. machine i386 cpu I586_CPU ident HABANERO maxusers 64 makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MFS_ROOT #MFS usable as root device, "MFS" req'ed options NFS #Network Filesystem options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, "NFS" req'ed options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root. "CD9660" req'ed options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options FAILSAFE #Be conservative options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor controller isa0 controller pnp0 # PnP support for ISA controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 controller ata0 device atadisk0 # ATA disk drives device atapicd0 # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapist0 # ATAPI tape drives # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 # Options for psm: #options PSM_HOOKAPM #options PSM_RESETAFTERSUSPEND device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 device apm0 at nexus? # Advanced Power Management device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? port? flags 0x40 irq 7 controller ppbus0 device lpt0 at ppbus? device plip0 at ppbus? device ppi0 at ppbus? device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 # SMB Bus controller smbus0 controller intpm0 controller alpm0 device smb0 at smbus? # PCCARD controller card0 device pcic0 at card? # Sound device pcm0 at isa? port ? irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x0 #controller snd0 #device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 #device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 #device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 #device awe0 at isa? port 0x620 # USB controller uhci0 controller ohci0 controller usb0 #controller umass0 device ums0 device ukbd0 device ulpt0 device uhid0 device ugen0 options UHCI_DEBUG options OHCI_DEBUG options USB_DEBUG options UHUB_DEBUG options UMS_DEBUG options UKBD_DEBUG options UMASS_DEBUG options UHID_DEBUG options UGEN_DEBUG options ULPT_DEBUG pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device sl 1 pseudo-device ppp 1 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 32 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's pseudo-device snp 3 # KTRACE enables the system-call tracing facility ktrace(2). # This adds 4 KB bloat to your kernel, and slightly increases # the costs of each syscall. options KTRACE #kernel tracing # This provides support for System V shared memory and message queues. # options SYSVSHM options SYSVMSG options SYSVSEM # The `bpfilter' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. Be # aware of the legal and administrative consequences of enabling this # option. The number of devices determines the maximum number of # simultaneous BPF clients programs runnable. pseudo-device bpfilter 4 #Berkeley packet filter #options NETATALK options DDB options BREAK_TO_DEBUGGER options SOFTUPDATES options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100 options ICMP_BANDLIM options DUMMYNET options USER_LDT options VM86 options VESA #options INVARIANTS #options INVARIANT_SUPPORT options P1003_1B options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options _KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L And the boot messages.. Copyright (c) 1992-1999 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #3: Sat May 15 00:35:25 EDT 1999 chris@lion-around.at.yiff.net:/usr/local/usr-src/sys/compile/HABANERO Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium/P55C (quarter-micron) (298.42-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x582 Stepping=2 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 67043328 (65472K bytes) FreeBSD Kernel Configuration Utility - Version 1.2 Type "help" for help or "visual" to go to the visual configuration interface (requires MGA/VGA display or serial terminal capable of displaying ANSI graphics). config> ls Device port irq drq iomem iosize unit flags enab confl fdc0 0x3f0 6 2 0 0 0 0 Yes No fd0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Yes No atkbdc0 0x60 0 0 0 0 0 0 Yes No atkbd0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 Yes No psm0 0 12 0 0 0 0 0 Yes No vga0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Yes Yes sc0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Yes No npx0 0xf0 13 0 0 0 0 0 Yes No apm0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Yes No sio0 0x3f8 4 0 0 0 0 0x10 Yes No sio1 0x2f8 3 0 0 0 1 0 Yes No ppc0 0 7 0 0 0 0 0x40 Yes No lpt0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Yes No plip0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Yes No ppi0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Yes No ep0 0x300 10 0 0 0 0 0 Yes No smb0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Yes No pcic0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Yes No pcm0 0 5 1 0 0 0 0 Yes No config> irq ep0 15 config> ls Device port irq drq iomem iosize unit flags enab confl fdc0 0x3f0 6 2 0 0 0 0 Yes No fd0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Yes No atkbdc0 0x60 0 0 0 0 0 0 Yes No atkbd0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 Yes No psm0 0 12 0 0 0 0 0 Yes No vga0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Yes Yes sc0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Yes No npx0 0xf0 13 0 0 0 0 0 Yes No apm0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Yes No sio0 0x3f8 4 0 0 0 0 0x10 Yes No sio1 0x2f8 3 0 0 0 1 0 Yes No ppc0 0 7 0 0 0 0 0x40 Yes No lpt0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Yes No plip0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Yes No ppi0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Yes No ep0 0x300 15 0 0 0 0 0 Yes No smb0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Yes No pcic0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 Yes No pcm0 0 5 1 0 0 0 0 Yes No config> q sio0: system console avail memory = 62066688 (60612K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02f7000. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug Probing for PnP devices: npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface apm0: on motherboard apm: found APM BIOS version 1.2 pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 chip0: at device 0.0 on pci0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 ata-pci0: at device 7.1 on pci0 ata-pci0: Busmastering DMA supported ata0 at 0x01f0 irq 14 on ata-pci0 uhci0: at device 7.2 on pci0 uhci0: could not map ports device_probe_and_attach: uhci0 attach returned 6 intpm0: at device 7.3 on pci0 intpm0: I/O mapped 2180 intpm0: intr IRQ 9 enabled revision 0 intsmb0: smbus0: on intsmb0 smb0: on smbus0 intpm0: PM I/O mapped 8000 vga-pci0: irq 9 at device 8.0 on pci0 pcic0: at device 10.0 on pci0 isa0: on motherboard fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> at fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0 at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 flags 0x40 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold plip0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus 0 pcm0 at port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa0 ESS1868 (rev 11) PC-Card Intel 82365 (5 mem & 2 I/O windows) pcic: controller irq 10 Initializing PC-card drivers: ep IP packet filtering initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, logging limited to 100 packets/entry DUMMYNET initialized (990504) ata0: master: settting up UDMA2 mode on PIIX4 chip OK ad0: ATA-4 disk at ata0 as master ad0: 6194MB (12685680 sectors), 13424 cyls, 15 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S ad0: piomode=4, dmamode=2, udmamode=2 ad0: 16 secs/int, 0 depth queue, DMA mode changing root device to wd0s1a Card inserted, slot 0 ep0: utp/bnc[*UTP*] address 00:20:af:f7:89:c1 -- Christopher Masto Senior Network Monkey NetMonger Communications chris@netmonger.net info@netmonger.net http://www.netmonger.net Free yourself, free your machine, free the daemon -- http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat May 15 9:45:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles550.castles.com [208.214.165.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C892A15027 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 09:45:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00623; Sat, 15 May 1999 09:43:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905151643.JAA00623@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Gregory Sutter Cc: Ping Mai , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: video card recommendation? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 14 May 1999 21:00:33 PDT." <19990514210032.X55051@001101.zer0.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 09:43:32 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Having just installed a Diamond Monster Fusion card, I can only say that once Xig stabilise the drivers it's going to be pretty scary. Not much of a benchmark, but I get over 10,000 rpm out of xengine on this card. Not bad for $99.o The G200 is a smarter bet if stability matters though; the Xig driver for the Banshee has wedged and rebooted my system several times so far this week. > On Fri, May 14, 1999 at 06:39:29PM -0700, Ping Mai wrote: > > > > Can someone recommend a good video card that works well in > > XFree86 and WinNT? Does the Matrox MGA-200 work with > > Xfree? > > If you're not doing 3D, and are running XFree 3.3.3.1 or newer, then > I wholeheartedly recommend the Matrox Millennium G200. It is > lightning fast. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat May 15 10: 9:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from kodos.tinet.ie (kodos.tinet.ie [159.134.237.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FEDE1526C for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 10:09:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ozonide@tinet.ie) Received: from p44.as2.cork1.tinet.ie ([159.134.229.44] helo=.tinet.ie) by kodos.tinet.ie with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #23) id 10ihwb-0007gm-00 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Sat, 15 May 1999 18:09:52 +0100 Content-Length: 335 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 17:10:24 -0000 (GMT) Organization: http://ecad.org/ From: crypt0genic To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Lacie DVD RAM Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone had any experiance with a LaCie DVD RAM Drive Pro for PC under freebsd? Im thinking about making a purchase as a backup solution. -crypt0genic ---------------------------------- E-Mail: crypt0genic Date: 15-May-99 Time: 17:09:42 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat May 15 17:18:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from cheddar.netmonger.net (cheddar.netmonger.net [209.54.21.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DDB714D39 for ; Sat, 15 May 1999 17:18:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@cheddar.netmonger.net) Received: (from chris@localhost) by cheddar.netmonger.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA29264; Sat, 15 May 1999 20:18:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990515201845.A29051@netmonger.net> Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 20:18:45 -0400 From: Christopher Masto To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: USB/current/newbus/VAIO Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG References: <19990515023542.A23275@netmonger.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <19990515023542.A23275@netmonger.net>; from Christopher Masto on Sat, May 15, 1999 at 02:35:42AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, May 15, 1999 at 02:35:42AM -0400, Christopher Masto wrote: > I just got a Sony 505TX and I'm running into: > > uhci0: at device 7.2 on pci0 > uhci0: could not map ports > device_probe_and_attach: uhci0 attach returned 6 Problem solved. I found it in NetBSD's GNATS. Turning off "PNP OS?" in the BIOS did the trick. My USB mouse works just fine now. Consider this a success report. Device: Belkin 3-Button USB "ClassicMouse" ($14.99 at Micro Center) Computer: Sony VAIO 505TX uhub_explore: status change hub=1 port=1 usbd_new_device bus=0xc0969000 depth=1 lowspeed=512 usbd_new_device: adding unit addr=2, rev=100, class=0, subclass=0, protocol=0, maxpacket=8, ls=1 usbd_new_device: new dev (addr 2), dev=0xc09f6f80, parent=0xc059c340 usbd_probe_and_attach: no device specific driver found usbd_set_config_index: (addr 2) attr=0xa0, selfpowered=0, power=100, powerquirk=0 usbd_set_config_index: set config 1 usbd_set_config_index: setting new config 1 ums0 ums0: Cypress Sem Cypress USB Mouse, rev 1.00/0.00, addr 2, iclass 3/1 ums0: 3 buttons ums_attach: sc=0xc0a58400 ums_attach: X 8/8 ums_attach: Y 8/8 ums_attach: B1 0/1 ums_attach: B2 1/1 ums_attach: B3 2/1 ums_attach: size=3, id=0 I get a panic on unplugging it, but I see that I should expect that. -- Christopher Masto Senior Network Monkey NetMonger Communications chris@netmonger.net info@netmonger.net http://www.netmonger.net Free yourself, free your machine, free the daemon -- http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat May 15 20: 1:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from conan.dyndns.org (cx31243-a.pwtkt1.ri.home.com [24.0.245.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7011514D39; Sat, 15 May 1999 20:01:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eric@conan.dyndns.org) Received: from localhost (eric@localhost) by conan.dyndns.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA00425; Sat, 15 May 1999 23:02:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from eric@conan.dyndns.org) Date: Sat, 15 May 1999 23:02:36 -0400 (EDT) From: "darth vader [eric]" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: SoundBlaster 16 Vibra [pnp] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi everyone; i have a SoundBlaster Vibra16[pnp] and i added the following files to my kernel config file and then re-made it.. controller pnp0 device pcm0 at isa? port? tty irq 5 drq 1 vector pcmintr ok.. i do that.. when i boot it says that it is pcm1 with an irq of 9 and base address of 0x220-[something else] when it is irq of 5 ! because i had it working before.. i had to reinstall freebsd for reasons.. but i had it working.. i also did this after re booting cd /dev ./MAKEDEV snd1 rm audio rm mixer rm dsp rm dspW ln -s /dev/audio1 /dev/audio ln -s /dev/mixer1 /dev/mixer ln -s /dev/dsp1 /dev/dsp ln -s /dev/dspW1 /dev/dspW and then i got the same kernel msg and then tried to play an mp3.. i got no error but heard nothing... thanks . [eric,vader] [use the force] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun May 16 0:24:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from conan.dyndns.org (cx31243-a.pwtkt1.ri.home.com [24.0.245.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDE0014F4B; Sun, 16 May 1999 00:24:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eric@conan.dyndns.org) Received: from localhost (eric@localhost) by conan.dyndns.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id DAA08476; Sun, 16 May 1999 03:25:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from eric@conan.dyndns.org) Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 03:25:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "darth vader [eric]" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: SoundBlaster 16 Vibra [pnp] [please! i'm desperate] Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi everyone; i have a SoundBlaster Vibra16[pnp] and i added the following files to my kernel config file and then re-made it.. controller pnp0 device pcm0 at isa? port? tty irq 5 drq 1 vector pcmintr ok.. i do that.. when i boot it says that it is pcm1 with an irq of 9 and base address of 0x220-[something else] when it is irq of 5 ! because i had it working before.. i had to reinstall freebsd for reasons.. but i had it working.. i also did this after re booting cd /dev ./MAKEDEV snd1 rm audio rm mixer rm dsp rm dspW ln -s /dev/audio1 /dev/audio ln -s /dev/mixer1 /dev/mixer ln -s /dev/dsp1 /dev/dsp ln -s /dev/dspW1 /dev/dspW and then i got the same kernel msg and then tried to play an mp3.. i got no error but heard nothing... thanks . [eric,vader] [use the force] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun May 16 0:24:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from ren.detir.qld.gov.au (ns.detir.qld.gov.au [203.46.81.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 903E614F4B for ; Sun, 16 May 1999 00:24:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from syssgm@detir.qld.gov.au) Received: by ren.detir.qld.gov.au; id RAA22213; Sun, 16 May 1999 17:24:15 +1000 (EST) Received: from ogre.detir.qld.gov.au(167.123.8.3) by ren.detir.qld.gov.au via smap (4.1) id xma022211; Sun, 16 May 99 17:24:01 +1000 Received: from atlas.detir.qld.gov.au (atlas.detir.qld.gov.au [167.123.8.9]) by ogre.detir.qld.gov.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA11974; Sun, 16 May 1999 17:24:01 +1000 (EST) Received: from nymph.detir.qld.gov.au (nymph.detir.qld.gov.au [167.123.10.10]) by atlas.detir.qld.gov.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA19407; Sun, 16 May 1999 17:24:00 +1000 (EST) Received: from nymph.detir.qld.gov.au (localhost.detir.qld.gov.au [127.0.0.1]) by nymph.detir.qld.gov.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA19862; Sun, 16 May 1999 17:23:59 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from syssgm@nymph.detir.qld.gov.au) Message-Id: <199905160723.RAA19862@nymph.detir.qld.gov.au> To: Gregory Sutter Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, syssgm@detir.qld.gov.au, Ping Mai Subject: Re: video card recommendation? References: <19990514210032.X55051@001101.zer0.org> In-Reply-To: <19990514210032.X55051@001101.zer0.org> from Gregory Sutter at "Fri, 14 May 1999 21:00:33 -0700" Date: Sun, 16 May 1999 17:23:59 +1000 From: Stephen McKay Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 14th May 1999, Gregory Sutter wrote: >On Fri, May 14, 1999 at 06:39:29PM -0700, Ping Mai wrote: >> >> Can someone recommend a good video card that works well in >> XFree86 and WinNT? Does the Matrox MGA-200 work with >> Xfree? > >If you're not doing 3D, and are running XFree 3.3.3.1 or newer, then >I wholeheartedly recommend the Matrox Millennium G200. It is >lightning fast. You forgot to mention the excellent image quality. The improvement over my old S3 Trio64 is amazing! And it is still adequate for many Windoze 3D games, despite not being anywhere near the fastest available. I'm certainly a happy customer! Stephen. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 17 8:17:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from kalypso.cybercom.net (kalypso.cybercom.net [209.21.136.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F137153F9 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 08:17:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ksmm@threespace.com) Received: from localhost (ksmm@localhost) by kalypso.cybercom.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA27782; Mon, 17 May 1999 11:17:18 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 11:17:15 -0400 (EDT) From: The Classiest Man Alive X-Sender: ksmm@kalypso.cybercom.net To: Ping Mai Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: video card recommendation? In-Reply-To: <19990514210032.X55051@001101.zer0.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm also running a Matrox Millennium G200 with good results under the latest XFree86 and Windows 9x/NT. I'm not sure why Mr. Sutter recommends against it's use for 3D purposes, but in Windows 98, games using Direct3D and even OpenGL work quite well. It's not the fastest 3D gaming card out there, but it does do 3D to a window, and it's got enough memory and speed to support 24/32-bit color at some very high resolutions and refresh rates. K.-- On Fri, 14 May 1999, Gregory Sutter wrote: : On Fri, May 14, 1999 at 06:39:29PM -0700, Ping Mai wrote: : > : > Can someone recommend a good video card that works well in : > XFree86 and WinNT? Does the Matrox MGA-200 work with : > Xfree? : : If you're not doing 3D, and are running XFree 3.3.3.1 or newer, then : I wholeheartedly recommend the Matrox Millennium G200. It is : lightning fast. : : Greg : -- : Gregory S. Sutter Mostly Harmless : mailto:gsutter@pobox.com : http://www.pobox.com/~gsutter/ : PGP DSS public key 0x40AE3052 : : : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org : with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message : To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 17 11: 6:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from snake.supranet.net (snake.supranet.net [205.164.160.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63C5415109; Mon, 17 May 1999 11:06:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from john@arnie.jfive.com) Received: from snake.supranet.net (snake.supranet.net [205.164.160.19]) by snake.supranet.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA26529; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:06:44 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from john@arnie.jfive.com) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:06:44 -0500 (CDT) From: John Heyer X-Sender: john@snake.supranet.net To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: AMD 53c974 SCSI Controllers in 3.X In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi - I have an AMD 53c974 SCSI card and am running 2.2.8, and am looking to take my system up to 3.2 in the near future. However, I noticed this card is not yet supported under the new CAM subsystem. Is there any way I can work around this to use it under 3.x? I really like this card and would like to avoid buying a new one. -- "Your illogical approach ... does have its advantages." -- Spock, after being Checkmated by Kirk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 17 12:40:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from ns3.zoomnet.net (ns3.zoomnet.net [206.230.102.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BAC214CD0 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 12:40:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cygone@zoomnet.net) Received: from cygone (cygone.zoomnet.net [208.32.49.7]) by ns3.zoomnet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA25314 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 15:40:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00b201bea09c$dadfe080$0200000a@cygone.zoomnet.net> From: "Mitch Vincent" To: Subject: RAID Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 15:38:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm setting up a FreeBSD box with hardware I've never personally used (should be interesting).. There seems to be support for DPT-based cards in the kernel, I was just wondering what the "best" RAID controller for use under FreeBSD would be. My price range for the card is under $2,000. I'll be using 6 x 9 gig SCSI 3 UW disks. Preferably I'd like to have a hardware-based RAID, but the cheapest controller I have found for that is about $4000. If anyone knows of a cheaper (but still good) card, please let me know. Any comments are greatly appreciated. -Mitch "When all your plans fail, backup, re-group and press on. The only real failure is quitting..." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 17 12:46:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from www1.asacomputers.com (unknown [204.153.176.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D5615202 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 12:46:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kedar@asacomputers.com) Received: from kedar.asacomputers.com (kedar.asacomputers.com [204.153.176.86]) by www1.asacomputers.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA13055; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:02:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kedar@asacomputers.com) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990517194148.025a6fa4@asacomputers.com> X-Sender: rajadnya@asacomputers.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 12:41:48 -0700 To: "Mitch Vincent" From: Kedar Rajadnya Subject: Re: RAID Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Preferably I'd like to have a hardware-based RAID, but the cheapest >controller I have found for that is about $4000. If anyone knows of a hmmm? Are you looking at SCSI-SCSI RAID controllers only? PCI-SCSI RAID controllers cost considerably lower. (In fact some SCSI-SCSI controllers also cost lower). You might want to look at the DPT 2144 or 3334. Kedar. Take care, Kedar Rajadnya. ASA Computers, Inc. 2354 Calle Del Mundo. Santa Clara, CA 95054. TEL: (408)654-2901 ext201 CELL: (408)799-7263 TOLL FREE:(877)538-1272 FAX: (408)654-2910 ***************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 17 13:56:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A434D156ED; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:56:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA02728; Mon, 17 May 1999 13:56:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:56:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: "darth vader [eric]" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SoundBlaster 16 Vibra [pnp] In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 15 May 1999, darth vader [eric] wrote: > Hi everyone; > > i have a SoundBlaster Vibra16[pnp] and i added the following files to my > kernel config file and then re-made it.. > > controller pnp0 > device pcm0 at isa? port? tty irq 5 drq 1 vector pcmintr > > ok.. i do that.. when i boot it says that it is pcm1 with an irq of 9 and > base address of 0x220-[something else] when it is irq of 5 ! because i had > it working before.. i had to reinstall freebsd for reasons.. but i had it > working.. i also did this after re booting your card is being found by Plug&Play like you told it to :-) Just let it go. > cd /dev > ./MAKEDEV snd1 Just this is sufficient. > > > and then i got the same kernel msg and then tried to play an mp3.. i got > no error but heard nothing... What kernel message? Doug White Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 17 21:47:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from 001101.zer0.org (001101.zer0.org [206.24.105.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B19614C0A for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 21:47:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gsutter@001101.zer0.org) Received: (from gsutter@localhost) by 001101.zer0.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id VAA94999; Mon, 17 May 1999 21:46:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gsutter) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 21:46:39 -0700 From: Gregory Sutter To: Mitch Vincent Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RAID Message-ID: <19990517214639.F80987@001101.zer0.org> References: <00b201bea09c$dadfe080$0200000a@cygone.zoomnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <00b201bea09c$dadfe080$0200000a@cygone.zoomnet.net>; from Mitch Vincent on Mon, May 17, 1999 at 03:38:34PM -0400 Organization: Zer0 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 17, 1999 at 03:38:34PM -0400, Mitch Vincent wrote: > I'm setting up a FreeBSD box with hardware I've never personally used > (should be interesting).. > > There seems to be support for DPT-based cards in the kernel, I was just > wondering what the "best" RAID controller for use under FreeBSD would be. My > price range for the card is under $2,000. I'll be using 6 x 9 gig SCSI 3 UW > disks. http://www.infortrend.com/ has SCSI-SCSI RAID controllers within, but toward the top of, your price range. They work well. Greg -- Gregory S. Sutter "I think not," said Descartes... mailto:gsutter@pobox.com and promptly disappeared. http://www.pobox.com/~gsutter/ PGP DSS public key 0x40AE3052 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 17 22:14: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from siscom.net (mail1.siscom.net [209.251.2.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BB08214D37 for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 22:14:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from radams@siscom.net) Received: (qmail 53851 invoked from network); 18 May 1999 05:14:38 -0000 Received: from ppp46.pm3.day-oh.siscom.net (HELO jason) (209.251.4.138) by mail.siscom.net with SMTP; 18 May 1999 05:14:38 -0000 Message-ID: <0a9001bea0ee$ddfa94c0$3102fbd1@siscom.net> From: "Robert J. Adams" To: "Gregory Sutter" , "Mitch Vincent" Cc: References: <00b201bea09c$dadfe080$0200000a@cygone.zoomnet.net> <19990517214639.F80987@001101.zer0.org> Subject: Re: RAID Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 01:25:36 -0400 Organization: SISCOM, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greg, Any idea how these compare to the Mylex 960SXI's? -j --- Robert J. Adams radams@siscom.net http://www.siscom.net Looking to outsource news? http://www.newshosting.com SISCOM Network Administration - President, SISCOM Inc. Phone: 937-222-8150 FAX: 937-222-8153 ----- Original Message ----- From: Gregory Sutter To: Mitch Vincent Cc: Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 1999 12:46 AM Subject: Re: RAID > On Mon, May 17, 1999 at 03:38:34PM -0400, Mitch Vincent wrote: > > I'm setting up a FreeBSD box with hardware I've never personally used > > (should be interesting).. > > > > There seems to be support for DPT-based cards in the kernel, I was just > > wondering what the "best" RAID controller for use under FreeBSD would be. My > > price range for the card is under $2,000. I'll be using 6 x 9 gig SCSI 3 UW > > disks. > > http://www.infortrend.com/ has SCSI-SCSI RAID controllers within, > but toward the top of, your price range. They work well. > > Greg > -- > Gregory S. Sutter "I think not," said Descartes... > mailto:gsutter@pobox.com and promptly disappeared. > http://www.pobox.com/~gsutter/ > PGP DSS public key 0x40AE3052 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 17 23: 9:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from 001101.zer0.org (001101.zer0.org [206.24.105.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B4A614D9A for ; Mon, 17 May 1999 23:09:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gsutter@001101.zer0.org) Received: (from gsutter@localhost) by 001101.zer0.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id XAA96622; Mon, 17 May 1999 23:08:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gsutter) Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 23:08:25 -0700 From: Gregory Sutter To: "Robert J. Adams" Cc: Mitch Vincent , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RAID Message-ID: <19990517230825.I80987@001101.zer0.org> References: <00b201bea09c$dadfe080$0200000a@cygone.zoomnet.net> <19990517214639.F80987@001101.zer0.org> <0a9001bea0ee$ddfa94c0$3102fbd1@siscom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <0a9001bea0ee$ddfa94c0$3102fbd1@siscom.net>; from Robert J. Adams on Tue, May 18, 1999 at 01:25:36AM -0400 Organization: Zer0 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 18, 1999 at 01:25:36AM -0400, Robert J. Adams wrote: > > Any idea how these compare to the Mylex 960SXI's? Sorry, I've never used the Mylex controllers. My RAID experience is limited to DPT and Infortrend, of which I am happier with the Infortrend. Overall I really think SCSI-SCSI is the cleaner way to go. Thnks for reminding me, I have to get the new RAID unit put in place. The case for it is really big. Imagine a full tower case. Now realize that there are only 5 drives in it. Three power supplies, though. :) Greg -- Gregory S. Sutter Black holes were created mailto:gsutter@pobox.com when God divided by zero. http://www.pobox.com/~gsutter/ PGP DSS public key 0x40AE3052 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 17 23:38:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7162F15345; Mon, 17 May 1999 23:38:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id AAA32546; Tue, 18 May 1999 00:38:24 -0600 (MDT) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199905180638.AAA32546@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: AMD 53c974 SCSI Controllers in 3.X In-Reply-To: from John Heyer at "May 17, 1999 1: 6:44 pm" To: john@arnie.jfive.com (John Heyer) Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 00:38:24 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Heyer wrote... > > Hi - I have an AMD 53c974 SCSI card and am running 2.2.8, and am looking > to take my system up to 3.2 in the near future. However, I noticed this > card is not yet supported under the new CAM subsystem. Is there any way I > can work around this to use it under 3.x? I really like this card and > would like to avoid buying a new one. Yeah, there is a driver, but Justin is in the middle of revamping it and it didn't make it in the tree in time for 3.2. Mail gibbs@FreeBSD.ORG and ask him for the latest version of the amd driver. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue May 18 3:56:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F7515432 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 03:56:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker ([210.55.152.50]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990518105825.OGIB7869945.mta1-rme@wocker> for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 22:58:25 +1200 From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 18 May 1999 22:56:06 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: scsi adaptec 1420 Reply-To: junkmale@xtra.co.nz X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990518105825.OGIB7869945.mta1-rme@wocker> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A person hoping to install FreeBSD has asked me about support for his Adaptec 1420 SCSI card. I've seen nothing in the webpages and nothing in the mailing list archives. Is it supported? [I'm not subscribed] -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/freebsd/ NZ FreeBSD User Group - http://www.nzfug.nz.freebsd.org/ The Racing System - http://www.racingsystem.com/racingsystem.htm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue May 18 23:39: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A358D14C93 for ; Tue, 18 May 1999 23:38:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tim@futuresouth.com) Received: (from tim@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA03605; Wed, 19 May 1999 01:38:51 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 19 May 1999 01:38:51 -0500 From: Tim To: "Robert J. Adams" Cc: Gregory Sutter , Mitch Vincent , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RAID Message-ID: <19990519013851.A2935@pobox.com> References: <00b201bea09c$dadfe080$0200000a@cygone.zoomnet.net> <19990517214639.F80987@001101.zer0.org> <0a9001bea0ee$ddfa94c0$3102fbd1@siscom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <0a9001bea0ee$ddfa94c0$3102fbd1@siscom.net>; from Robert J. Adams on Tue, May 18, 1999 at 01:25:36AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We have used some of the Infortrend controllers but haven't really beat on them yet with FreeBSD (we have two, one with Linux the other with FreeBSD). Both have been extremely reliable (but then again, both are intranet machines). I suspect Infortrend is not in the same league as Mylex, CMD, etc. in terms of performance as it's powered by an AMD 586-133 at the top end but it's a great bargain at about $1200 per controller. Note that Infortrend controllers are also fairly unique in that all channels can be either drive or host channels. There are also a number of OEM's out there that repackage Infortrend controllers as their own. I prefer SCSI<->SCSI as well especially when the manufacturer doesn't directly support the controller for the OS. Tim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 19 23:53:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mipnet.mipnet.fr (mipnet.mipnet.fr [194.51.103.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6C2C14E7D for ; Wed, 19 May 1999 23:53:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mahe@twam.com) Received: from twam.com (sad1-11.mipnet.fr [195.101.68.141]) by mipnet.mipnet.fr (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id IAA12594 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 08:58:12 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <3743B17E.4FA9918F@twam.com> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 08:53:50 +0200 From: "Loic Mahe'" Organization: TWAM Informatique X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, fr-FR MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Problem with wt0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I've just installed an old wt0 tape drive (Tandberg Data) for QIC-02 tapes on my FreeBSD 3.1. The controller is a V551 card. The drive is recognized at boot time : > wt0 at 0x300-0x301 irq 5 drq 1 on isa > wt0: type But, if I try to use it with tar : tar -cvf /dev/rwt0 (or /dev/rwt0d since I use 150 Mb tapes), the tape drive seems to freeze after a few minutes of saving (the prompt doesn't come back) and stays quiet. I have to remove the tape to release the prompt (even kill can't supress the process). Once, the following message even came out, when I tried to read the (incomplete) archive I had just made : > /kernel: wt0: Block not located and the entire FreeBSD system simply *crashed* (in fact I found the message in /var/log/messages after reboot) !! On the opposite, if I try to save only a small directory, tar seems to work well. Is the tape drive damaged (it's hard for me to believe that a damaged drive could make the system crash, but ...), or the wt driver broken, or am I using the wrong device (between /dev/rwt0 or /dev/rwt0d) ? Thanks in advance (reply by mail please) Loic, Toulouse/France To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 20 2:45:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.gfit.net (ns.gfit.net [209.41.124.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E25A014DB4 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 02:45:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Received: from gizmo (timembt.iinc.com [206.67.169.229]) by mercury.gfit.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA21886 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 04:40:35 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990520054937.00a98514@mail.embt.com> X-Sender: tembt@mail.embt.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 05:49:37 -0400 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: Tom Embt Subject: How to get AWE64 ISA PnP working? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry to bother everyone with this, I'm sure the answer is quite simple, but I'm having trouble getting my ISA Plug & Pray AWE 64 Value working in 3.2-STABLE. I followed the instructions at http://www.neosoft.com/~conrads/awepnp-freebsd.html up until it said to edit /boot/boot.conf. I didn't have a /boot/boot.conf so I put the line in /boot/loader.rc instead. The card is apparently being found by PnP and the kernel sound drivers, although it's being identified as a Soundblaster 16 w/o AWE. I did do a "./MAKEDEV snd0", but if I try to play something in X11Amp it just refuses. The KDE .mid player said something to the effect of "cant open device", and trying to cat a file to /dev/dsp0 results in "Device Busy". Here is some info: dmesg: [...] config> pnp 1 0 os enable irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 5 port0 0x220 port1 0x330 port2 0x388 config> pnp 1 1 os disable config> pnp 1 2 os port0 0x620 port1 0xa20 port2 0xe20 config> pnp 1 3 os disable config> quit [...] Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL00c5 [0xc5008c0e] Serial 0x157aac6a Comp ID: PNPb02f [0x2fb0d041] [...] sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa snd0: sbxvi0 at drq 5 on isa snd0: sbmidi0 at 0x330 on isa snd0: opl0 at 0x388 on isa snd0: awe0 at 0x620 on isa AWE32: not detected [...] kernel config stuff: controller pnp0 controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 device awe0 at isa? port 0x620 /boot/loader.rc load kernel load -t userconfig_script /kernel.config boot /dev/sndstat VoxWare Sound Driver:3.5-alpha15-970902 (Wed Aug 6 22:58:35 PDT 1997 Amancio Hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Config options: Installed drivers: Type 1: OPL-2/OPL-3 FM Type 2: SoundBlaster Type 6: SoundBlaster16 Type 25: AWE32 Synth Type 7: SB16 MIDI Card config: SoundBlaster at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 SoundBlaster16 at 0xffffffff irq 1 drq 5 SB16 MIDI at 0x330 irq 1 OPL-2/OPL-3 FM at 0x388 irq 1 AWE32 Synth at 0x620 irq 1 Audio devices: 0: SoundBlaster 16 4.16 Synth devices: 0: Yamaha OPL-3 Midi devices: 0: SoundBlaster 16 Midi Timers: 0: System clock Mixers: 0: SoundBlaster Anybody care to point out my error so that I may put that AWE 64 to some use? Thanks, Tom Embt tom@embt.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 20 4:22:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from bumlan.campus.luth.se (bumlan.campus.luth.se [130.240.196.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3494614CD3 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 04:22:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andree@sm.luth.se) Received: from localhost (laj@localhost) by bumlan.campus.luth.se (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA04328; Thu, 20 May 1999 13:22:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from andree@sm.luth.se) X-Authentication-Warning: bumlan.campus.luth.se: laj owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 13:22:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Andree Jacobson X-Sender: laj@bumlan.campus.luth.se To: Tom Embt Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to get AWE64 ISA PnP working? In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990520054937.00a98514@mail.embt.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have the exact same card and it's working just fine... Try adding the following to your kernel: controller pnp0 device pcm0 at isa? port ? tty irq 10 drq 1 flags 0x0 Remove all that other stuff that has to do with soundrivers like 'sb' and 'xvi' or whatever and just keep the above... Recompile kernel and boot and you will find something like: /kernel: Probing for PnP devices: pcm1 (Soundblaster xxxx sn 0xffffffff) at 0x530-0x537 irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x13 on isa Then go to /dev and type sh ./MAKEDEV snd1 (if at boot time it said pcm1, snd0 for pcm0) That will create the symbolic links for dsp and the other mixers and stuff. Enjoy. /Andree On Thu, 20 May 1999, Tom Embt wrote: > Sorry to bother everyone with this, I'm sure the answer is quite simple, > but I'm having trouble getting my ISA Plug & Pray AWE 64 Value working in > 3.2-STABLE. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 20 16:32:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from hawaii.conterra.com (hawaii.conterra.com [209.12.164.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67B3F1530E for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:32:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from myself@conterra.com) Received: from dmaddox.conterra.com (myself@dmaddox.conterra.com [209.12.169.48]) by hawaii.conterra.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id TAA23119; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:32:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from myself@localhost) by dmaddox.conterra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA01633; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:30:42 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from myself) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 19:30:42 -0400 From: "Donald J . Maddox" To: Andree Jacobson Cc: Tom Embt , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to get AWE64 ISA PnP working? Message-ID: <19990520193042.A1385@dmaddox.conterra.com> Reply-To: dmaddox@conterra.com References: <3.0.3.32.19990520054937.00a98514@mail.embt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Andree Jacobson on Thu, May 20, 1999 at 01:22:21PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, May 20, 1999 at 01:22:21PM +0200, Andree Jacobson wrote: > I have the exact same card and it's working just fine... Try adding the > following to your kernel: > > controller pnp0 > device pcm0 at isa? port ? tty irq 10 drq 1 flags 0x0 This is bad advice, as the feature that makes an AWE an AWE (wavetable synthesis) is not supported by the pcm device at all. To the original poster: I have an AWE64GOLD that works perfectly, in a configuration similar to yours. You may have another device that conflicts with the AWE, or the IRQ/DMA setup you specified in your kernel.conf may not match what your PnP BIOS is actually assigning your card. You need to post _complete_, unabridged dmesg output, and preferably, also the output from the 'pnpinfo' command, if you want us to be able to puzzle out the source of your problems... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 20 19:52:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from maui.net (maui.net [207.175.210.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9626914D65 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 19:52:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rstout@maui.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by maui.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) id QAA24502 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 20 May 1999 16:52:38 -1000 (HST) Message-ID: <19990520165237.A20585@maui.net> Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 16:52:37 -1000 From: JQ Public To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: ahc0 tagged openings error Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello - I've just completed installing FreeBSD 3.1 on an Intel pc with Adaptec AHA-2940Ultra2Wide controller running 3 Seagate Cheetah 9 GB drives. The root console frequently displays numerious error messages like: /kernel: (dah0:ahc0:0:0:0): tagged openings now xx where xx is a decreasing 2 digit number generally starts at about 65 and goes down to 49. Other than these errors, the system appears to be running well. Anyone know what the "tagged openings" message indicate or where I might go to look it up? Thanks, J Catch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 20 21:33: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68ACA158C8 for ; Thu, 20 May 1999 21:32:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id WAA68029; Thu, 20 May 1999 22:32:53 -0600 (MDT) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199905210432.WAA68029@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: ahc0 tagged openings error In-Reply-To: <19990520165237.A20585@maui.net> from JQ Public at "May 20, 1999 04:52:37 pm" To: root@maui.net (JQ Public) Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:32:53 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org JQ Public wrote... > Hello - > I've just completed installing FreeBSD 3.1 on an Intel pc with Adaptec AHA-2940Ultra2Wide > controller running 3 Seagate Cheetah 9 GB drives. > > The root console frequently displays numerious error messages like: > > /kernel: (dah0:ahc0:0:0:0): tagged openings now xx > > where xx is a decreasing 2 digit number generally starts at about 65 and goes > down to 49. > > Other than these errors, the system appears to be running well. > Anyone know what the "tagged openings" message indicate or where I might > go to look it up? It's an informative message. That's the number of concurrent transactions your drives can handle. i.e., don't worry about it. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 21 2:36:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.gfit.net (ns.gfit.net [209.41.124.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FC9D14BCD for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 02:36:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Received: from paranor.embt.net (timembt.iinc.com [206.67.169.229]) by mercury.gfit.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id EAA06186; Fri, 21 May 1999 04:31:22 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990521053630.00b5402c@mail.embt.com> X-Sender: tembt@mail.embt.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 05:36:30 -0400 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: Tom Embt Subject: Re: How to get AWE64 ISA PnP working? Cc: "Donald J . Maddox" In-Reply-To: <19990520193042.A1385@dmaddox.conterra.com> References: <3.0.3.32.19990520054937.00a98514@mail.embt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >> controller pnp0 >> device pcm0 at isa? port ? tty irq 10 drq 1 flags 0x0 > >This is bad advice, as the feature that makes an AWE an AWE (wavetable >synthesis) is not supported by the pcm device at all. > Thought so, it mentioned something like that on the AWEPnP webpage... >To the original poster: > >I have an AWE64GOLD that works perfectly, in a configuration similar to >yours. You may have another device that conflicts with the AWE, or the >IRQ/DMA setup you specified in your kernel.conf may not match what your >PnP BIOS is actually assigning your card. You need to post _complete_, >unabridged dmesg output, and preferably, also the output from the >'pnpinfo' command, if you want us to be able to puzzle out the source >of your problems... > I'd be more than happy to - here goes: ------- |dmesg| ------- Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #0: Fri May 21 04:57:40 EDT 1999 root@paranor.embt.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/PARANOR-052199a Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 167046000 Hz CPU: Pentium/P55C (167.05-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x543 Stepping=3 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 100663296 (98304K bytes) config> pnp 1 0 os enable irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 5 port0 0x220 port1 0x330 port2 0x388 config> pnp 1 1 os disable config> pnp 1 2 os port0 0x620 port1 0xa20 port2 0xe20 config> pnp 1 3 os disable config> quit avail memory = 94973952 (92748K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02b6000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/kernel.config" at 0xc02b609c. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x01 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.0 ide_pci0: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.1 chip2: rev 0x01 on pci0.7.3 vga0: rev 0x05 int a irq 9 on pci0.9.0 pn0: <82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX> rev 0x20 int a irq 10 on pci0.11.0 pn0: Ethernet address: 00:c0:f0:2d:ec:69 pn0: autoneg complete, link status good (half-duplex, 10Mbps) Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL00c5 [0xc5008c0e] Serial 0x157aac6a Comp ID: PNPb02f [0x2fb0d041] Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 not found sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa ppc0: Generic chipset (ECP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/16 bytes threshold lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 9671MB (19807200 sectors), 19650 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, accel, dma, iordy acd0: drive speed 344KB/sec, 256KB cache acd0: supported read types: CD-DA acd0: Audio: play, 256 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: CD-ROM unknown medium, unlocked vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface sb0 at 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 on isa snd0: sbxvi0 at drq 5 on isa snd0: sbmidi0 at 0x330 on isa snd0: opl0 at 0x388 on isa snd0: awe0 at 0x620 on isa AWE32: not detected Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug changing root device to wd0s1a cd9660: Joliet Extension --------- |pnpinfo| --------- Checking for Plug-n-Play devices... Card assigned CSN #1 Vendor ID CTL00c5 (0xc5008c0e), Serial Number 0x157aac6a PnP Version 1.0, Vendor Version 16 Device Description: Creative SB AWE64 PnP *** Small Vendor Tag Detected Logical Device ID: CTL0045 0x45008c0e #0 Device Description: Audio TAG Start DF Good Configuration IRQ: 5 - only one type (true/edge) DMA: channel(s) 1 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode DMA: channel(s) 5 16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x220, alignment 0x1, len 0x10 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x330 .. 0x330, alignment 0x1, len 0x2 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x388, alignment 0x1, len 0x4 [16-bit addr] TAG Start DF Acceptable Configuration IRQ: 5 7 9 10 - only one type (true/edge) DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode DMA: channel(s) 5 6 7 16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x388, alignment 0x1, len 0x4 [16-bit addr] TAG Start DF Acceptable Configuration IRQ: 5 7 9 10 - only one type (true/edge) DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode DMA: channel(s) 5 6 7 16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2 [16-bit addr] TAG Start DF Acceptable Configuration IRQ: 5 7 9 10 - only one type (true/edge) DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode DMA: channel(s) 5 6 7 16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10 [16-bit addr] TAG Start DF Acceptable Configuration IRQ: 5 7 9 10 - only one type (true/edge) DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x388, alignment 0x1, len 0x4 [16-bit addr] TAG Start DF Acceptable Configuration IRQ: 5 7 9 10 - only one type (true/edge) DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x30, len 0x2 [16-bit addr] TAG Start DF Acceptable Configuration IRQ: 5 7 9 10 - only one type (true/edge) DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10 [16-bit addr] TAG Start DF Sub-optimal Configuration IRQ: 5 7 9 10 - only one type (true/edge) DMA: channel(s) 0 1 3 8-bit, not a bus master, count by byte, , Compatibility mode DMA: channel(s) 5 6 7 16-bit, not a bus master, , count by word, Compatibility mode I/O Range 0x220 .. 0x280, alignment 0x20, len 0x10 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x300 .. 0x330, alignment 0x10, len 0x2 [16-bit addr] I/O Range 0x388 .. 0x394, alignment 0x4, len 0x4 [16-bit addr] TAG End DF Logical Device ID: CTL7002 0x02708c0e #1 Compatible Device ID: PNPb02f (2fb0d041) Device Description: Game TAG Start DF Good Configuration I/O Range 0x200 .. 0x200, alignment 0x1, len 0x8 [16-bit addr] TAG Start DF Acceptable Configuration I/O Range 0x200 .. 0x208, alignment 0x8, len 0x8 [16-bit addr] TAG End DF Logical Device ID: CTL0022 0x22008c0e #2 Device Description: WaveTable TAG Start DF Good Configuration I/O Range 0x620 .. 0x620, alignment 0x1, len 0x4 [16-bit addr] TAG Start DF Acceptable Configuration I/O Range 0x620 .. 0x680, alignment 0x20, len 0x4 [16-bit addr] TAG End DF *** Small Vendor Tag Detected End Tag Successfully got 69 resources, 3 logical fdevs -- card select # 0x0001 CSN CTL00c5 (0xc5008c0e), Serial Number 0x157aac6a Logical device #0 IO: 0x0220 0x0330 0x0388 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 IRQ 5 0 DMA 1 5 IO range check 0x00 activate 0x01 Logical device #1 IO: 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 IRQ 0 0 DMA 4 4 IO range check 0x00 activate 0x00 Logical device #2 IO: 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 0x0000 IRQ 0 0 DMA 4 4 IO range check 0x00 activate 0x00 ----------------- |/boot/loader.rc| ----------------- load kernel load -t userconfig_script /kernel.config boot ---------------- |/kernel.config| ---------------- pnp 1 0 os enable irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 5 port0 0x220 port1 0x330 port2 0x388 pnp 1 1 os disable pnp 1 2 os port0 0x620 port1 0xa20 port2 0xe20 pnp 1 3 os disable quit ---------------------------------------- |excerpt from kernel configuration file| | (the whole thing is pretty long) | ---------------------------------------- controller pnp0 controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq 5 drq 1 device sbxvi0 at isa? drq 5 device sbmidi0 at isa? port 0x330 device opl0 at isa? port 0x388 device awe0 at isa? port 0x620 ---------- |uname -v| ---------- FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #0: Fri May 21 04:57:40 EDT 1999 root@paranor.embt.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/PARANOR-052199a ------------------------------------------ Was I incorrect in putting the 'load -t userconfig_script /kernel.config' line in /boot/loader.rc? That is about the only thing that I didn't follow the instructions exactly on. Also, FWIW, this machine is a dual-boot and in Win95 the AWE card uses all the standard addresses (IRQ 5 ; DMA 1,5 ; ports 0x220 0x330 0x388 0x620). The only other cards in the machine are a PCI S3-ViRGE video, PCI Voodoo 2, and a PCI Kinston PNIC network card (pn0). IIRC, BIOS is giving IRQ 5 to "ISA/PCI PnP" or something like that, and I think "PNP OS" is enabled 'cause of Windoze. I'd have to reboot to be sure. Tom Embt tom@embt.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 21 10:19:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from surreal.vrhost.com (unknown [216.25.158.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1BA0159D6 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 10:19:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gary@tbe.net) Received: from surreal.vrhost.com (surreal.vrhost.com [216.25.158.22]) by surreal.vrhost.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 792DA3CEB for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 13:19:25 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:19:25 -0400 (EDT) From: "Gary D. Margiotta" X-Sender: gary@surreal.vrhost.com To: FreeBSD Hardware List Subject: DPT RAID and Compaq Proliant 3000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Looking into RAID solutions of for a box. Was looking at two possible solutions: One 'commercial' solution is to implement a Compaq 3000R Model 1S. Any feedback on whether this is supported for the most part, and specifically the Smart Array controllers, i.e. Smart Array 221 and 3200. The other one is a generic box with a DPT card. However, I really do not know much of the DPT line, and therefore would need any and all suggestions on which DPT card to go with. This is a rather broad question, I realize, but any feedback would be extremely helpful. ______________________________________________________________ -Gary Margiotta Voice: (973) 835-7855 TBE Internet Services Fax: (973) 835-4755 http://www.tbe.net E-Mail: gary@tbe.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 21 14:53:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from hawaii.conterra.com (hawaii.conterra.com [209.12.164.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5909E14D50 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 14:53:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from myself@conterra.com) Received: from dmaddox.conterra.com (myself@dmaddox.conterra.com [209.12.169.48]) by hawaii.conterra.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA15588; Fri, 21 May 1999 17:53:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from myself@localhost) by dmaddox.conterra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA01705; Fri, 21 May 1999 17:52:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from myself) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 17:52:03 -0400 From: "Donald J . Maddox" To: Tom Embt Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, "Donald J . Maddox" Subject: Re: How to get AWE64 ISA PnP working? Message-ID: <19990521175203.B1487@dmaddox.conterra.com> Reply-To: dmaddox@conterra.com References: <3.0.3.32.19990520054937.00a98514@mail.embt.com> <19990520193042.A1385@dmaddox.conterra.com> <3.0.3.32.19990521053630.00b5402c@mail.embt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990521053630.00b5402c@mail.embt.com>; from Tom Embt on Fri, May 21, 1999 at 05:36:30AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm pretty sure if you fix this little typo in your kernel.config, all will be well: On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 05:36:30AM -0400, Tom Embt wrote: > config> pnp 1 0 os enable irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 5 port0 0x220 port1 0x330 > port2 0x388 > config> pnp 1 1 os disable > config> pnp 1 2 os port0 0x620 port1 0xa20 port2 0xe20 ^^^^ Notice missing 'enable' keyword > config> pnp 1 3 os disable > config> quit > ---------------- > |/kernel.config| > ---------------- > pnp 1 0 os enable irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 5 port0 0x220 port1 0x330 port2 0x388 > pnp 1 1 os disable > pnp 1 2 os port0 0x620 port1 0xa20 port2 0xe20 ^^^^ Need 'enable' keyword here > pnp 1 3 os disable > quit To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 21 16:33:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from 001101.zer0.org (001101.zer0.org [206.24.105.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 543FC15024 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 16:33:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gsutter@001101.zer0.org) Received: (from gsutter@localhost) by 001101.zer0.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) id QAA85123; Fri, 21 May 1999 16:32:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gsutter) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 16:32:30 -0700 From: Gregory Sutter To: "Gary D. Margiotta" Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DPT RAID and Compaq Proliant 3000 Message-ID: <19990521163229.G83814@001101.zer0.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Gary D. Margiotta on Fri, May 21, 1999 at 01:19:25PM -0400 Organization: Zer0 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 01:19:25PM -0400, Gary D. Margiotta wrote: > Hello, > > Looking into RAID solutions of for a box. Was looking at two possible > solutions: There was a discussion of RAIDs four days ago. The subject was "Raid". You can view the archives at eGroups: http://www.egroups.com/group/freebsd-hardware/4763.html? Greg -- Gregory S. Sutter "Software is like sex; it's better mailto:gsutter@pobox.com when it's free." -- Linus Torvalds http://www.pobox.com/~gsutter/ PGP DSS public key 0x40AE3052 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 21 17:38:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from web210.mail.yahoo.com (web210.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DFDE14DD6 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 17:38:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tonyxross@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <19990522003746.10027.rocketmail@web210.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [209.84.182.13] by web210.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 21 May 1999 17:37:46 PDT Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 17:37:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Tony Ross Subject: Remote Boot with serial port To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I want to redirect the boot time output (dmesg info) to the serial port so I can remotely access the machine at the boot process and enter single user mode. I have a pc running 2.27 that does this which allow us to remotely take care of fsck types of problems. On 3.1, I have redirected the console to the serial port but do not get control until the Login prompt. How can I get the console output to the serial port before this, like right after the "boot" prompt? Thanks, Tony _____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Free instant messaging and more at http://messenger.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 21 20:37:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from beelzebubba.sysabend.org (beelzebubba.sysabend.org [208.243.107.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBE6B14F44 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 20:37:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ragnar@sysabend.org) Received: by beelzebubba.sysabend.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BD2154028; Fri, 21 May 1999 23:37:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beelzebubba.sysabend.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7CC3D9A56 for ; Fri, 21 May 1999 23:37:52 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 23:37:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Jamie Bowden To: hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: new lpt behaviour from 3.1 -> 3.2 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa ppc0: Winbond chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/16 bytes threshold ppb0: IEEE1284 device found /NIBBLE/ECP Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0: ppbus0: MLC,PCL,PML lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lpt0: on ppbus 0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port In 3.1-R, using the nlpt0 device, it only reported itself once during boot. The above is direct from dmesg, using the renamed lpt0 device in 3.2-R. Is there any particualr reason why it's found twice? Jamie Bowden -- If we've got to fight over grep, sign me up. But boggle can go. -Ted Faber (on Hasbro's request for removal of /usr/games/boggle) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun May 23 10:35:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.gfit.net (ns.gfit.net [209.41.124.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0271114E8B for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 10:35:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Received: from paranor.embt.net (timembt.iinc.com [206.67.169.229]) by mercury.gfit.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA06994 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 12:29:52 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990523133432.00b5fcb4@mail.embt.com> X-Sender: tembt@mail.embt.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 13:34:32 -0400 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: Tom Embt Subject: Re: How to get AWE64 ISA PnP working? In-Reply-To: <19990521175203.B1487@dmaddox.conterra.com> References: <3.0.3.32.19990521053630.00b5402c@mail.embt.com> <3.0.3.32.19990520054937.00a98514@mail.embt.com> <19990520193042.A1385@dmaddox.conterra.com> <3.0.3.32.19990521053630.00b5402c@mail.embt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 05:52 PM 5/21/99 -0400, you wrote: >I'm pretty sure if you fix this little typo in your kernel.config, all >will be well: > >On Fri, May 21, 1999 at 05:36:30AM -0400, Tom Embt wrote: >> config> pnp 1 0 os enable irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 5 port0 0x220 port1 0x330 >> port2 0x388 >> config> pnp 1 1 os disable >> config> pnp 1 2 os port0 0x620 port1 0xa20 port2 0xe20 > ^^^^ Notice missing 'enable' keyword >> config> pnp 1 3 os disable >> config> quit > DOH!! Thanks, sometimes it just takes another pair of eyes to see the problem. It is seeing the AWE stuff now, but after a "./MAKEDEV snd0" my KDE toys (X11Amp and the MIDI player) still aren't working. IIRC a "cat something.wav > /dev/dsp0" was producing some output though, so it might just be a symlink issue or something. I'll muck with it some more tonight. Tom Embt tom@embt.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun May 23 10:50:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from ns3.zoomnet.net (ns3.zoomnet.net [206.230.102.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2CA314F18 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 10:50:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cygone@zoomnet.net) Received: from cygone (cygone.zoomnet.net [208.32.49.7]) by ns3.zoomnet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id NAA15516 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 13:50:08 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00ed01bea544$6dd223c0$0200000a@cygone.zoomnet.net> From: "Mitch Vincent" To: Subject: Quad Processor System Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 13:48:12 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://www.intel.com/design/servers/SC450NX/index.htm Hey guys, I am looking for a quad processor board to use with FreeBSD. I found Intel's SC450NX motherboard: http://www.intel.com/design/servers/SC450NX/index.htm And Micro-xpress has an "almost" system for sale using this: http://www.microx-press.com/online/product.asp?dept%5Fid=15300&sku=MBRIN400 There is a LOT of high-end hardware in this system, I don't know what will and won't work with FreeBSD (since I've never been able to afford it until now) and would love to get some real FreeBSD hardware gurus to help me out. If anyone has time, take a look and let me know.. I would REALLY appreciate it and will repay whomever in any way I can. Thanks! -Mitch "When all your plans fail, backup, re-group and press on. The only real failure is quitting..." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun May 23 14:44:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from implode.root.com (root.com [209.102.106.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EACAB14DCB for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 14:44:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA05949; Sun, 23 May 1999 14:42:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905232142.OAA05949@implode.root.com> To: "Mitch Vincent" Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Quad Processor System In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 23 May 1999 13:48:12 EDT." <00ed01bea544$6dd223c0$0200000a@cygone.zoomnet.net> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 14:42:52 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >http://www.intel.com/design/servers/SC450NX/index.htm > >Hey guys, I am looking for a quad processor board to use with FreeBSD. > >I found Intel's SC450NX motherboard: >http://www.intel.com/design/servers/SC450NX/index.htm > >And Micro-xpress has an "almost" system for sale using this: >http://www.microx-press.com/online/product.asp?dept%5Fid=15300&sku=MBRIN400 > >There is a LOT of high-end hardware in this system, I don't know what will >and won't work with FreeBSD (since I've never been able to afford it until >now) and would love to get some real FreeBSD hardware gurus to help me out. >If anyone has time, take a look and let me know.. I would REALLY appreciate >it and will repay whomever in any way I can. The onboard Symbios SCSI controller won't work, but you can work around that by plugging in an Adaptec aha-2940u2w. I put together such a system for a client who is quite happy with it. -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun May 23 15:26:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from quark.ChrisBowman.com (crbowman.erols.com [209.122.47.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D77C14E5D for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 15:26:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crb@ChrisBowman.com) Received: from fermion (fermion.ChrisBowman.com [10.0.1.2]) by quark.ChrisBowman.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA02044; Sun, 23 May 1999 18:26:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from crb@ChrisBowman.com) Message-Id: <199905232226.SAA02044@quark.ChrisBowman.com> X-Sender: crb@quark X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 18:24:33 -0400 To: dg@root.com From: "Christopher R. Bowman" Subject: Re: Quad Processor System Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199905232142.OAA05949@implode.root.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 02:42 PM 5/23/99 -0700, David Greenman wrote: >>http://www.intel.com/design/servers/SC450NX/index.htm >> >>Hey guys, I am looking for a quad processor board to use with FreeBSD. >> >>I found Intel's SC450NX motherboard: >>http://www.intel.com/design/servers/SC450NX/index.htm >> >>And Micro-xpress has an "almost" system for sale using this: >>http://www.microx-press.com/online/product.asp?dept%5Fid=15300&sku=MBRIN400 >> >>There is a LOT of high-end hardware in this system, I don't know what will >>and won't work with FreeBSD (since I've never been able to afford it until >>now) and would love to get some real FreeBSD hardware gurus to help me out. >>If anyone has time, take a look and let me know.. I would REALLY appreciate >>it and will repay whomever in any way I can. > > The onboard Symbios SCSI controller won't work, but you can work around >that by plugging in an Adaptec aha-2940u2w. I put together such a system for >a client who is quite happy with it. > >-DG Why doesn't the onboard Symbios SCSI controller work? -------- Christopher R. Bowman crb@ChrisBowman.com http://www.ChrisBowman.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun May 23 15:37:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from implode.root.com (root.com [209.102.106.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D43114F54 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 15:37:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA06073; Sun, 23 May 1999 15:35:52 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905232235.PAA06073@implode.root.com> To: "Christopher R. Bowman" Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Quad Processor System In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 23 May 1999 18:24:33 EDT." <199905232226.SAA02044@quark.ChrisBowman.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 15:35:52 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>http://www.intel.com/design/servers/SC450NX/index.htm >> >> The onboard Symbios SCSI controller won't work, but you can work around >>that by plugging in an Adaptec aha-2940u2w. I put together such a system for >>a client who is quite happy with it. >> >>-DG > >Why doesn't the onboard Symbios SCSI controller work? It's a newer chip that isn't properly supported, at least when I last tried it a few months ago. The Adaptec chips are generally better supported in FreeBSD and I wouldn't consider anything else for systems that I build. -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun May 23 16:42:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06DD814DA9 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 16:42:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA05902 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 16:42:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA00669 for hardware@freebsd.org; Sun, 23 May 1999 16:42:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 16:42:13 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Tyan S1836DLUAN without a keyboard Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Do any of you know whether a Tyan S1836DLUAN Thunder 100 motherboard can be booted without a keyboard? The BIOS complains of keyboard problems and just sits there. I don't see any setup options to turn off that behavior. I'd like to use it with a serial console and no keyboard, monitor, or mouse. John --- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-interest is the aphrodisiac of belief." -- James V. DeLong To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun May 23 17:55:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from implode.root.com (root.com [209.102.106.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 894D714DA9 for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 17:55:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06402; Sun, 23 May 1999 17:53:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905240053.RAA06402@implode.root.com> To: John Polstra Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Tyan S1836DLUAN without a keyboard In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 23 May 1999 16:42:13 PDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 17:53:43 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Do any of you know whether a Tyan S1836DLUAN Thunder 100 motherboard >can be booted without a keyboard? The BIOS complains of keyboard >problems and just sits there. I don't see any setup options to turn >off that behavior. I'd like to use it with a serial console and no >keyboard, monitor, or mouse. That doesn't happen on the S1836DLUAN based machines that I've built. None of them have a keyboard or mouse. -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun May 23 18:29:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from tasam.com (tasam.com [206.161.83.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C5D1513C for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 18:29:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from clash@tasam.com) Received: from bug (bug.tasam.com [206.161.113.114]) by tasam.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA08174; Sun, 23 May 1999 21:29:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <002701bea584$e877bd20$7271a1ce@tasam.com> From: "Joe Gleason" To: "John Polstra" , References: Subject: Re: Tyan S1836DLUAN without a keyboard Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 21:29:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I beleive the option that disables keyboard check on a Tyan board is quick boot. Try changing that. I don't have one here, but that is what I seem to remember. Joe Gleason Tasam ----- Original Message ----- From: John Polstra To: Sent: Sunday, May 23, 1999 19:42 Subject: Tyan S1836DLUAN without a keyboard > Do any of you know whether a Tyan S1836DLUAN Thunder 100 motherboard > can be booted without a keyboard? The BIOS complains of keyboard > problems and just sits there. I don't see any setup options to turn > off that behavior. I'd like to use it with a serial console and no > keyboard, monitor, or mouse. > > John > --- > John Polstra jdp@polstra.com > John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA > "Self-interest is the aphrodisiac of belief." -- James V. DeLong > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun May 23 19:56:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1515D151AE for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 19:56:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA75004; Sun, 23 May 1999 22:55:35 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 22:55:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: David Greenman Cc: John Polstra , hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Tyan S1836DLUAN without a keyboard In-Reply-To: <199905240053.RAA06402@implode.root.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 23 May 1999, David Greenman wrote: > >Do any of you know whether a Tyan S1836DLUAN Thunder 100 motherboard > >can be booted without a keyboard? The BIOS complains of keyboard > >problems and just sits there. I don't see any setup options to turn > >off that behavior. I'd like to use it with a serial console and no > >keyboard, monitor, or mouse. > > That doesn't happen on the S1836DLUAN based machines that I've built. None > of them have a keyboard or mouse. Have you guys compared BIOSes? My last 2 dual Tyan MBs (not the S1836DLUAN), Tyan installed either Award or (I think) Phoenix BIOSes. You didn't get a choice in advance, but you could (very cheaply) get the one you didn't get from Tyan, by checking ads in Computer Shopper. Very cheaply== ~ 15 bucks. They were quite different in features, so for the price it was well worth it. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@picnic.mat.net | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (Solaris7). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun May 23 19:56:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from hawaii.conterra.com (hawaii.conterra.com [209.12.164.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97D95151AE for ; Sun, 23 May 1999 19:56:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from myself@conterra.com) Received: from dmaddox.conterra.com (myself@dmaddox.conterra.com [209.12.169.48]) by hawaii.conterra.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id WAA15315; Sun, 23 May 1999 22:56:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from myself@localhost) by dmaddox.conterra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id WAA01083; Sun, 23 May 1999 22:54:56 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from myself) Date: Sun, 23 May 1999 22:54:55 -0400 From: "Donald J . Maddox" To: Tom Embt Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to get AWE64 ISA PnP working? Message-ID: <19990523225455.A1004@dmaddox.conterra.com> Reply-To: dmaddox@conterra.com References: <3.0.3.32.19990521053630.00b5402c@mail.embt.com> <3.0.3.32.19990520054937.00a98514@mail.embt.com> <19990520193042.A1385@dmaddox.conterra.com> <3.0.3.32.19990521053630.00b5402c@mail.embt.com> <19990521175203.B1487@dmaddox.conterra.com> <3.0.3.32.19990523133432.00b5fcb4@mail.embt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990523133432.00b5fcb4@mail.embt.com>; from Tom Embt on Sun, May 23, 1999 at 01:34:32PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To be able to load soundfonts for playing MIDIs, you need to install the AWE utilities ported sometime back by Randall Hopper. Go to: http://www.ipass.net/~dbhopper/aa8vb/awedrv/ to get what you need... I don't know why X11amp, etc. aren't working for you. Works fine here... If you could perhaps be more specific about how it's 'not working' we may be able to figure something out. Is the X11amp you're running a Linux binary, by chance? If so, make sure the linux kld is loaded first. Just a thought... On Sun, May 23, 1999 at 01:34:32PM -0400, Tom Embt wrote: > DOH!! Thanks, sometimes it just takes another pair of eyes to see the > problem. It is seeing the AWE stuff now, but after a "./MAKEDEV snd0" my > KDE toys (X11Amp and the MIDI player) still aren't working. IIRC a "cat > something.wav > /dev/dsp0" was producing some output though, so it might > just be a symlink issue or something. I'll muck with it some more tonight. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun May 23 21: 8:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from quark.ChrisBowman.com (crbowman.erols.com [209.122.47.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446A6150D6; Sun, 23 May 1999 21:08:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crb@ChrisBowman.com) Received: from fermion (crb@fermion.ChrisBowman.com [10.0.1.2]) by quark.ChrisBowman.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA02561; Mon, 24 May 1999 00:08:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from crb@ChrisBowman.com) Message-Id: <199905240408.AAA02561@quark.ChrisBowman.com> X-Sender: crb@quark X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 00:06:24 -0400 To: dg@root.com From: "Christopher R. Bowman" Subject: Re: Quad Processor System Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199905232235.PAA06073@implode.root.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 03:35 PM 5/23/99 -0700, David Greenman wrote: >>>>http://www.intel.com/design/servers/SC450NX/index.htm >>> >>> The onboard Symbios SCSI controller won't work, but you can work around >>>that by plugging in an Adaptec aha-2940u2w. I put together such a system for >>>a client who is quite happy with it. >>> >>>-DG >> >>Why doesn't the onboard Symbios SCSI controller work? > > It's a newer chip that isn't properly supported, at least when I last tried >it a few months ago. The Adaptec chips are generally better supported in >FreeBSD and I wouldn't consider anything else for systems that I build. I have a set of their data books here (Symbios '875 '876 '895 '896) and have been looking around in the ncr driver lately. Do you have any concrete ideas about what isn't working, or has no one ever bothered to teach the drivers about the '895 series chips? I find it very curious that the Adaptec controllers are such the rage considering how hard I tried to get data books from them and failed. Symbios is only to happy to send out their data books. I know Adaptec supports Justin very well, but contrary to Justin's mail[*] of 5/8/98 I wasn't able to get any documentation on the parts. * http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=55133+58159+/usr/local/www/db/te xt/1998/freebsd-hardware/19980503.freebsd-hardware -------- Christopher R. Bowman crb@ChrisBowman.com http://www.ChrisBowman.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 24 2:40: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from hyperion.eclipse.net.uk (hyperion.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A67B15231; Mon, 24 May 1999 02:39:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by hyperion.eclipse.net.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA46703; Mon, 24 May 1999 10:39:43 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37491E5F.B4C83D57@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 10:39:43 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Christopher R. Bowman" Cc: dg@root.com, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Quad Processor System References: <199905240408.AAA02561@quark.ChrisBowman.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I have a set of their data books here (Symbios '875 '876 '895 '896) > and have been looking around in the ncr driver lately. Do you have > any concrete ideas about what isn't working, or has no one ever > bothered to teach the drivers about the '895 series chips? If you're talking about using 80MB/sec, I asked about this and someone suggested "options SCSI_NCR_DFLT_SYNC=10", which I have used on a squid box for a couple of months without problems, dmesg reports the higher speed and dd'ing da0 to /dev/null gives 13mb/sec rather than 8mb/sec so it seems to be working. Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 24 9: 1:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from urca.domain.com.br (urca.domain.com.br [200.196.128.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456F514BD4 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 09:01:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jfassad@domain.com.br) X-Internal-ID: 374461ED00018310 Received: from domain.com.br (200.196.128.253) by urca.domain.com.br (NPlex 2.0.123) for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 May 1999 12:54:10 -0300 Message-ID: <37494DE6.690330D6@domain.com.br> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 13:02:30 +0000 From: Joao Assad X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: SMP with asus C-P6ND Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------F1C54C5C35F1BFE9D83901E9" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------F1C54C5C35F1BFE9D83901E9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Greetings, I have a ppro with an asus C-P6ND mainboard... I wanna configure FreeBSD to use SMP but I have no Idea of what values I should put in : options NCPU=5 # number of CPUs options NBUS=5 # number of busses options NAPIC=2 # number of IO APICs options NINTR=25 # number of INTs Any idea ? Thanks, -- Jo鉶 Assad --------------F1C54C5C35F1BFE9D83901E9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings,
 

I have a ppro with an asus C-P6ND mainboard...
I wanna configure FreeBSD to use SMP but I have
no Idea of what values I should put in :

options         NCPU=5                  # number of CPUs
options         NBUS=5                  # number of busses
options         NAPIC=2                 # number of IO APICs
options         NINTR=25                # number of INTs

Any idea ?

Thanks, 

-- 
João Assad
  --------------F1C54C5C35F1BFE9D83901E9-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 24 9:26:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C15F14E41 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 09:26:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA09615 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 09:26:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA00386 for hardware@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 May 1999 09:26:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <002701bea584$e877bd20$7271a1ce@tasam.com> Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 09:26:12 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tyan S1836DLUAN without a keyboard Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for the replies. The BIOS is AMIBIOS v1.06. I see from the web site that there is a v1.16b available currently. If I can't get it to work any other way, I'll try that. (By the way, Netscape Navigator 4.5 instantly dumps core on a bus error when I try to go to http://www.tyan.com/ *sigh*.) Joe Gleason wrote: > I beleive the option that disables keyboard check on a Tyan board is > quick boot. Try changing that. That sounds promising. But first, how will I be able to disable quick boot again if I don't like it? The manual says that when quick boot is enabled, "You cannot run AMIBIOS Setup at system boot, because there is no delay for the ``Hit to run Setup'' message." Will I need to use the MB jumper to clear the CMOS memory if I want to go back? John --- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-interest is the aphrodisiac of belief." -- James V. DeLong To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 24 9:40:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E77271542A for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 09:40:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id KAA25008; Mon, 24 May 1999 10:40:16 -0600 (MDT) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199905241640.KAA25008@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: SMP with asus C-P6ND In-Reply-To: <37494DE6.690330D6@domain.com.br> from Joao Assad at "May 24, 1999 01:02:30 pm" To: jfassad@domain.com.br (Joao Assad) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 10:40:16 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Joao Assad wrote... > Greetings, > > > I have a ppro with an asus C-P6ND mainboard... You mean you have a P/I-P65UP5 with a C-P6ND daughtercard. > I wanna configure FreeBSD to use SMP but I have > no Idea of what values I should put in : > > options NCPU=5 # number of CPUs > options NBUS=5 # number of busses > options NAPIC=2 # number of IO APICs > options NINTR=25 # number of INTs You should run the following command: mptable -dmesg -verbose It will print out the config file options you should use between the mptable output and the dmesg output. I think you should just be able to run with SMP and APIC_IO. If that doesn't work, here's what I've got for my board: (it's the same motherboard you have) options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O options NCPU=2 # number of CPUs options NBUS=3 # number of busses options NAPIC=1 # number of IO APICs options NINTR=24 # number of INTs Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 24 9:53:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from paprika.michvhf.com (paprika.michvhf.com [209.57.60.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 464A714C31 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 09:52:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vev@michvhf.com) Received: (qmail 1746 invoked by uid 1001); 24 May 1999 16:52:55 -0000 Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 12:52:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Vince Vielhaber To: John Polstra Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tyan S1836DLUAN without a keyboard In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 24 May 1999, John Polstra wrote: > Thanks for the replies. The BIOS is AMIBIOS v1.06. I see from the > web site that there is a v1.16b available currently. If I can't get > it to work any other way, I'll try that. IIRC 1.16b is an AWARD BIOS instead of AMI. I just did one for a customer a couple of months ago (the upgrade was painless). I didn't pay attention to the quick boot or boot ignoring keyboard items but the AWARD may offer it if the AMI doesn't. I have an old 486-50 with AWARD and it has the feature. > (By the way, Netscape Navigator 4.5 instantly dumps core on a bus > error when I try to go to http://www.tyan.com/ *sigh*.) Don't feel bad, it does it to 4.6 too. I turned off Java and Javascript and it loads fine. Vince. -- ========================================================================== Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com flame-mail: /dev/null # include TEAM-OS2 Online Campground Directory http://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstore http://www.cloudninegifts.com ========================================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 24 10:13: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 411A714BD4 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 10:13:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA09864; Mon, 24 May 1999 10:13:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA00532; Mon, 24 May 1999 10:13:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 10:13:02 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: Vince Vielhaber Subject: Re: Tyan S1836DLUAN without a keyboard Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Vince Vielhaber wrote: > IIRC 1.16b is an AWARD BIOS instead of AMI. Hmm, the file has an extension of ".rom" after unzipping, which means it's AMI according to the web page. I haven't flashed it to find out for sure, though. >> (By the way, Netscape Navigator 4.5 instantly dumps core on a bus >> error when I try to go to http://www.tyan.com/ *sigh*.) > > Don't feel bad, it does it to 4.6 too. I turned off Java and Javascript > and it loads fine. Thanks -- that fixed it. John --- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Self-interest is the aphrodisiac of belief." -- James V. DeLong To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 24 13: 8:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from info.netsol.com (ns.netsol.com [198.41.0.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB95314CCE for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 13:08:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from JSeo@netsol.com) Received: from netsol-hq-ex01.netsol.com (netsol-hq-ex01.netsol.com [192.153.247.44]) by info.netsol.com (8.8.5/8.8.4) with ESMTP id QAA05209 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:10:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: by netsol-hq-ex01 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Mon, 24 May 1999 16:05:28 -0400 Message-ID: <1F9FAFEA5D7BD211B0AC00805FA751571A07FF@netsol-hq-ex01> From: "Seo, June" To: "'hardware@freebsd.org'" Subject: Mylex RAID Controller Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 16:05:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am new to FreeBSD. So I am not sure if you are the right person for me to turn to for a tip. I hope I am not bothering you too much. I am looking for RAID level 5 controllers which supports Ultra2 SCSI (Seagate Cheetah 9LP) in FreeBSD (3.1). I am looking at Mylex products. But the vendor says they do not support FreeBSD. Do you know if any drivers are available for Mylex RAID controllers? If not, what would be the most commonly used RAID vendors and controllers supporting Ultra2 in FreeBSD operating system? Is there any RAID controller compatibility list for FreeBSD? Thank you in advance for your help. I also would appreciate it if you would let me know other FreeBSD sources I can turn to for more information. June Seo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 24 22: 7:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from beach.silcom.com (beach.silcom.com [199.201.128.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4F0155C4; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:07:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dburr@pobox.com) Received: from pm0-41.sba1.avtel.net (pm0-41.sba1.avtel.net [207.71.218.41]) by beach.silcom.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDFE636; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:07:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:07:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Donald Burr X-Sender: dburr@control.colossus.dynip.com To: FreeBSD Questions Cc: FreeBSD Hardware Subject: Using cdrecord port with ATAPI burners? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I read in the cdrecord port information /usr/ports/sysutils/cdrecord/pkg/* that the port supports the use of ATAPI burners now. Is this correct? If so, how do I do this? What is the proper argument to the -dev command line switch? And what drivers do I need to have in the kernel to enable ATAPI writer support (acd?) I am running 3.1-RELEASE, by the way. Thanks! -- Donald Burr | PGP: Your *NEW* WWW HomePage: http://more.at/dburr/ ICQ #16997506 | right to Address: P.O. Box 91212, Santa Barbara, CA 93190-1212 | 'Net privacy. Phone: (805) 957-9666 FAX: (800) 492-5954 | USE IT. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 24 22:17:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC56214CBA; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:17:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id XAA28665; Mon, 24 May 1999 23:13:25 -0600 (MDT) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199905250513.XAA28665@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: Using cdrecord port with ATAPI burners? In-Reply-To: from Donald Burr at "May 24, 1999 10:07:28 pm" To: dburr@pobox.com (Donald Burr) Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 23:13:25 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Questions), freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Hardware) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Donald Burr wrote... > I read in the cdrecord port information > > /usr/ports/sysutils/cdrecord/pkg/* > > that the port supports the use of ATAPI burners now. Is this correct? > > If so, how do I do this? What is the proper argument to the -dev command > line switch? And what drivers do I need to have in the kernel to enable > ATAPI writer support (acd?) > > I am running 3.1-RELEASE, by the way. cdrecord itself supports ATAPI burners, but the FreeBSD port of cdrecord does not support ATAPI burners. That is because there is no mechanism for passing ATAPI commands through to the device. If you want support for ATAPI passthrough, bug Soren about it. It'll probably mean putting some special command line option on cdrecord to select between the FreeBSD SCSI and ATAPI interfaces, since the ATAPI passthrough support won't be through CAM. For now, use wormcontrol to burn CDs with an ATAPI burner. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 24 22:51:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles502.castles.com [208.214.165.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB3414E31 for ; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:51:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA00456; Mon, 24 May 1999 22:49:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905250549.WAA00456@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Mitch Vincent" Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Quad Processor System In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 23 May 1999 13:48:12 EDT." <00ed01bea544$6dd223c0$0200000a@cygone.zoomnet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:49:32 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > http://www.intel.com/design/servers/SC450NX/index.htm > > Hey guys, I am looking for a quad processor board to use with FreeBSD. > > I found Intel's SC450NX motherboard: > http://www.intel.com/design/servers/SC450NX/index.htm > > And Micro-xpress has an "almost" system for sale using this: > http://www.microx-press.com/online/product.asp?dept%5Fid=15300&sku=MBRIN400 > > There is a LOT of high-end hardware in this system, I don't know what will > and won't work with FreeBSD (since I've never been able to afford it until > now) and would love to get some real FreeBSD hardware gurus to help me out. > If anyone has time, take a look and let me know.. I would REALLY appreciate > it and will repay whomever in any way I can. The SC450NX and its big brother the AD450NX are both supported. Some versions of these boards have onboard Adaptec 7880 controllers, which are OK but a bit on the slow side for such a system. Others reputedly have unsupported NCR controllers. In either case, you should plan on obtaining an alternative, high-end disk controller. Apart from that, these systems are known to work very well. We used an AD450NX to build the FreeBSD 3.2 release, for example. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue May 25 4:38:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.gfit.net (ns.gfit.net [209.41.124.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 856BD14DA1 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 04:38:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Received: from paranor.embt.net (timembt.iinc.com [206.67.169.229]) by mercury.gfit.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id GAA16058; Tue, 25 May 1999 06:32:55 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990525073807.00782d5c@mail.embt.com> X-Sender: tembt@mail.embt.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 07:38:07 -0400 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: Tom Embt Subject: Re: How to get AWE64 ISA PnP working? Cc: dmaddox@conterra.com In-Reply-To: <19990523225455.A1004@dmaddox.conterra.com> References: <3.0.3.32.19990523133432.00b5fcb4@mail.embt.com> <3.0.3.32.19990521053630.00b5402c@mail.embt.com> <3.0.3.32.19990520054937.00a98514@mail.embt.com> <19990520193042.A1385@dmaddox.conterra.com> <3.0.3.32.19990521053630.00b5402c@mail.embt.com> <19990521175203.B1487@dmaddox.conterra.com> <3.0.3.32.19990523133432.00b5fcb4@mail.embt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Various things I've done and what results they have: cat something.wav > /dev/dsp0 Outputs the .wav file (very loud) correctly with a bit of static at the end. X11Amp (Built from ports tree, running in KDE which was also built from ports tree. XFree86 installed via /stand/sysinstall before AWE card was set up.) Apparently opens the file fine, but will not play it. The numeric time display doesn't show anything, nor do the Kbps, KHz, and mono|stereo LEDs. Clicking the play button makes these all light up for a split second and go blank again. I was successfully playing MP3s when I had the pcm driver working (well sorta working, but the MP3s played fine.) kmp3 (Built from ports tree.) This one is weird. It opens the MP3s OK as well, then upon hitting 'play' it will show the numeric display counting very fast. I think it is decoding the .mp3 as fast as it can, because it will go anywhere from 3-5 times normal speed. No audio output whatsoever. playmidi (Built from ports tree.) This one will play about 90% of my .mid files. Output is audible though not especially great sounding (could be the .mid files, they're kinda old). I think I once got some errors on the console to the effect of "4 byte event in mode 2" or somesuch, but I can't remember how to reproduce them. The few files that playmidi won't play are just silent, although it doesn't crash or complain at all. KDE Midi player (Came with KDE) Opens and tries to play .mid files, but there is no audio output. No errors, it progresses through the entire song w/o any output then stops. xgmod (Built from ports tree.) I D/Led two .mod files and tried this, it seemed to work fine. A few visual peculiarities with the program (disappearing buttons and such) but played the .mod files without a hitch. Compilation wasn't very pretty, alot of warnings. Many about comparing signed and unsigned integers. The awesfx and playmidi ports installed fine. I did a sfxload before trying any of the .mid stuff. Trying to 'make install' in the awemidi directory resulted in: ===> Extracting for awemidi-0.4.2b >> Checksum OK for awemidi-0.4.2b.tgz. ===> awemidi-0.4.2b depends on executable: wish4.1 - not found ===> Verifying install for wish4.1 in /usr/ports/x11/tk41 >> No directory for wish4.1. Skipping.. ===> awemidi-0.4.2b depends on executable: gmake - found ===> awemidi-0.4.2b depends on shared library: awe - not found ===> Verifying install for awe in /usr/ports/audio/awesfx ===> Returning to build of awemidi-0.4.2b Error: shared library "awe" does not exist *** Error code 1 \ > (Repeated 6 more times) Stop. / Any ideas? Would it be beneficial to dance and chant spells while swinging a dead cat over my head and sticking pins into a Bill Gates voodoo doll? Tom Embt tom@embt.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue May 25 6:32:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from liberty.bulinfo.net (liberty.bulinfo.net [195.10.36.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9B2CB1571E for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 06:32:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from krassi@bulinfo.net) Received: (qmail 25013 invoked from network); 25 May 1999 13:32:28 -0000 Received: from liberty.bulinfo.net (HELO bulinfo.net) (195.10.36.71) by liberty.bulinfo.net with SMTP; 25 May 1999 13:32:27 -0000 Message-ID: <374AA66B.9AB8E77@bulinfo.net> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 16:32:27 +0300 From: Krassimir Slavchev Organization: Bulinfo Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, bg, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hardware@freebsd.org, isp@freebsd.org Subject: Silo overflow and Cyclades problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, We have Cyclades Ye 32port PCI multiport adapters connected to PC with FreeBSD 2.2.8 that services 32 dial-in modems. The kernel is patched to support modules SM/16 II. The computers are with Intel TX motherboards and CPU AMD-K6/233MHz, 32Mb RAM. The problem is that the kernel too often generates messages like this: /kernel: cy.. 1 more silo overflow (total ..) and the computers reboot without any reasons every few days. This seems not to be a hardware problem. We tested this configuration on the same machine running Linux without any problems. Did anybody know the source of this problem and solution to solve it or any resources to read how to fix it? Thanks in advance, Regards Krassimir Slavchev To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue May 25 7: 2:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from ACC.sumy.net (ACC.sim.net.ua [62.244.20.221]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8B614F13; Tue, 25 May 1999 07:02:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pasha@sim.net.ua) Received: from sim.net.ua (GW.sumy.net [62.244.20.220]) by ACC.sumy.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17276; Tue, 25 May 1999 17:01:40 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <374AAD43.D4163421@sim.net.ua> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 17:01:40 +0300 From: Pavel Narozhniy X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: uk, ru, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Krassimir Slavchev Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Silo overflow and Cyclades problems References: <374AA66B.9AB8E77@bulinfo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Krassimir Slavchev wrote: > > Hi, > We have Cyclades Ye 32port PCI multiport adapters > connected to PC with FreeBSD 2.2.8 that services 32 dial-in modems. > The kernel is patched to support modules SM/16 II. > The computers are with Intel TX motherboards and CPU AMD-K6/233MHz, 32Mb > RAM. > The problem is that the kernel too often generates messages like this: > /kernel: cy.. 1 more silo overflow (total ..) > and the computers reboot without any reasons every few days. > This seems not to be a hardware problem. > We tested this configuration on the same machine running Linux without > any problems. > > Did anybody know the source of this problem and solution to solve it or > any resources > to read how to fix it? I had the same problem year ago. The are one known fix - get ISA version. -- Pavel Narozhniy nic-hdl: PN395-RIPE http://www.sumy.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue May 25 7: 6:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 500CA14FF6; Tue, 25 May 1999 07:06:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id AAA03918; Wed, 26 May 1999 00:06:02 +1000 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 00:06:02 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199905251406.AAA03918@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG, krassi@bulinfo.net Subject: Re: Silo overflow and Cyclades problems Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >We have Cyclades Ye 32port PCI multiport adapters >connected to PC with FreeBSD 2.2.8 that services 32 dial-in modems. >The kernel is patched to support modules SM/16 II. >The computers are with Intel TX motherboards and CPU AMD-K6/233MHz, 32Mb >RAM. >The problem is that the kernel too often generates messages like this: >/kernel: cy.. 1 more silo overflow (total ..) Use FreeBSD 3.x and the CY_PCI_FASTINTR option. >and the computers reboot without any reasons every few days. Probably a different problem. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue May 25 7:20:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nostrum.com (mail.nostrum.com [206.28.8.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 603AE1571E; Tue, 25 May 1999 07:20:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pckizer@nostrum.com) Received: (from pckizer@localhost) by mail.nostrum.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) id JAA02223; Tue, 25 May 1999 09:20:29 -0500 Message-Id: <199905251420.JAA02223@mail.nostrum.com> From: Philip Kizer To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Multiple Cyclades cards in one box [was: Silo overflow and Cyclades problems] In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 25 May 1999 17:01:40 +0300." <374AAD43.D4163421@sim.net.ua> Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 09:20:29 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Pavel Narozhniy replied to: >> We have Cyclades Ye 32port PCI multiport adapters >> connected to PC with FreeBSD 2.2.8 that services 32 dial-in modems. >> The kernel is patched to support modules SM/16 II. >> The computers are with Intel TX motherboards and CPU AMD-K6/233MHz, 32Mb >> RAM. and wrote: >I had the same problem year ago. The are one known fix - get ISA >version. A related question, I currently have a 3.1-STABLE box with a Ye32 (ISA) [acting as a pager notification and serial console multiplexor for several dozen Sun/etc. boxes], and am nearing the time when I'll need to expand above the 32 ports. Is it possible to, and are there any problems I should know about, putting another Ye32 (ISA) in the same box? Anyone done such a thing? From the comments above and others I've seen, should I stick with the ISA variant rather than trying to add one of the PCI cards? -philip -- AKA: Philip Kizer Texas A&M CIS Operating Systems Group, Unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue May 25 18:34:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from siscom.net (mail1.siscom.net [209.251.2.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8AD2B14A14 for ; Tue, 25 May 1999 18:34:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from radams@siscom.net) Received: (qmail 17634 invoked from network); 26 May 1999 01:34:13 -0000 Received: from ppp23.pm4.day-oh.siscom.net (HELO jason) (209.251.4.161) by mail.siscom.net with SMTP; 26 May 1999 01:34:13 -0000 Message-ID: <016801bea719$7fee57a0$3102fbd1@siscom.net> From: "Robert J. Adams" To: Cc: Subject: Internal ISDN TA Date: Tue, 25 May 1999 21:45:54 -0400 Organization: SISCOM, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, I was thinking about getting a Netgear RH348 ISDN router, then though I might just get an internal TA for my extra fbsd box.. anyone recommend a good internal TA to use with fbsd? -j --- Robert J. Adams radams@siscom.net http://www.siscom.net Looking to outsource news? http://www.newshosting.com SISCOM Network Administration - President, SISCOM Inc. Phone: 937-222-8150 FAX: 937-222-8153 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 26 9:37:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from the.oneinsane.net (the.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E3D156BF for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:37:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net) Received: from lunatic.oneinsane.net (insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.231]) by the.oneinsane.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA29439 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:37:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from insane@localhost) by lunatic.oneinsane.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA27652 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:37:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:37:20 -0700 From: "Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: NCR SCSI Controller Message-ID: <19990526093720.A26344@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD lunatic.oneinsane.net 3.2-RELEASE X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net X-PGP-KEY: http://www.oneinsane.net/~insane/insane-pgp5i.txt X-Uptime: 9:28AM up 1 day, 14 mins, 2 users, load averages: 0.07, 0.06, 0.09 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This might sound odd but I thought I would ask anyways. I have a: ncr0: rev 0x04 int a irq 12 on pci0.17.0 Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: When it boots up through the bios stage I see my HD indicator working. Once system starts to boot I no longer get any activity on my HD indicator. Has anyone else seen this?. Everything works but some times these stupid indicators can help you when troubleshooting or when something odd is goiig on. Just curious to know if I am not alone. If you need more info about the SCSI controller let me know. It just is not my card. We have one at work that is the same thing. TIA -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was null and void ------------------------------------------------------------------- I can only please one person per day. Today is not YOUR day. Tomorrow doesn't look too good either. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 26 9:39:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from the.oneinsane.net (the.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C075714C28 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:39:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net) Received: from lunatic.oneinsane.net (insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.231]) by the.oneinsane.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA29517 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:39:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from insane@localhost) by lunatic.oneinsane.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA27735 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:39:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:39:24 -0700 From: "Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Interface to BX motherboard temp Message-ID: <19990526093924.B26344@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD lunatic.oneinsane.net 3.2-RELEASE X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net X-PGP-KEY: http://www.oneinsane.net/~insane/insane-pgp5i.txt X-Uptime: 9:37AM up 1 day, 24 mins, 2 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.02, 0.05 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone devised an program/interface to get the information about temp and fan RPM's from hte pII calss motherboards. It would be nice not having to bring the box down to se what is going on. With summer coming up I am curious. TIA -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was null and void ------------------------------------------------------------------- If you sell your soul to the Devil and all you get is an MCSE from it, you haven't gotten market rate. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 26 9:50:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from voland.anet.donetsk.ua (voland.donin.com [195.206.224.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A500C14E4F; Wed, 26 May 1999 09:50:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bob@donin.com) Received: from azazello (azazello.donin.com [195.206.224.38]) by voland.anet.donetsk.ua (8.9.2/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA20768; Wed, 26 May 1999 19:50:42 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from bob@donin.com) Message-Id: <199905261650.TAA20768@voland.anet.donetsk.ua> From: "Vladimir A. Pokatilov" To: Cc: Subject: Multiproc kernel 3.1-Release & Cyclades Cyclom 8Yep PCI Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 19:50:59 +0300 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Help !!! Anybody know . where is bug in kernel configuration , in cy0 driver or in my hands I have multiprocessor machine: matherboard SOYO 5TX2/X5 with 2 intel 166 proceccors multiport card Cyclades Cyclom 8Yep Kernel config: options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O options NCPU=2 # number of CPUs options NBUS=2 # number of busses All good work until somthing do start to send to /dev/cXX Then kernel panic and reboot !!! All good working under single processor kernel ... no problem mptable: ============================================================================ === MPTable, version 2.0.15 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- MP Floating Pointer Structure: location: BIOS physical address: 0x000f0d20 signature: '_MP_' length: 16 bytes version: 1.1 checksum: 0x53 mode: Virtual Wire ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- MP Config Table Header: physical address: 0x000f0d34 signature: 'PCMP' base table length: 292 version: 1.1 checksum: 0xd5 OEM ID: 'OEM00000' Product ID: 'PROD00000000' OEM table pointer: 0x00000000 OEM table size: 0 entry count: 28 local APIC address: 0xfee00000 extended table length: 0 extended table checksum: 0 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- MP Config Base Table Entries: -- Processors: APIC ID Version State Family Model Step Flags 0 0x11 BSP, usable 5 2 1 0x07bf 1 0x11 AP, usable 5 2 1 0x07bf -- Bus: Bus ID Type 0 ISA 1 PCI -- I/O APICs: APIC ID Version State Address 2 0x11 usable 0xfec00000 -- I/O Ints: Type Polarity Trigger Bus ID IRQ APIC ID PIN# ExtINT conforms conforms 0 0 2 0 INT conforms conforms 0 1 2 1 INT conforms conforms 0 0 2 2 INT conforms conforms 0 3 2 3 INT conforms conforms 0 4 2 4 INT conforms conforms 0 5 2 5 INT conforms conforms 0 6 2 6 INT conforms conforms 0 7 2 7 INT conforms conforms 0 8 2 8 INT conforms conforms 0 9 2 9 INT conforms conforms 0 10 2 10 INT conforms conforms 0 11 2 11 INT conforms conforms 0 12 2 12 INT conforms conforms 0 13 2 13 INT conforms conforms 0 14 2 14 INT conforms conforms 0 15 2 15 INT active-lo level 1 14:A 2 16 INT active-lo level 1 15:A 2 17 INT active-lo level 1 16:A 2 18 INT active-lo level 1 17:A 2 19 SMI conforms conforms 0 0 2 23 -- Local Ints: Type Polarity Trigger Bus ID IRQ APIC ID PIN# ExtINT active-hi edge 0 0 255 0 NMI active-hi edge 0 0 255 1 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- # SMP kernel config file options: # Required: options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O # Optional (built-in defaults will work in most cases): #options NCPU=2 # number of CPUs #options NBUS=2 # number of busses #options NAPIC=1 # number of IO APICs #options NINTR=24 # number of INTs ============================================================================ === To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 26 13: 5:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from quark.ChrisBowman.com (crbowman.erols.com [209.122.47.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B58C14E08 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:05:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crb@ChrisBowman.com) Received: from fermion (fermion.ChrisBowman.com [10.0.1.2]) by quark.ChrisBowman.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA05624; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:05:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from crb@ChrisBowman.com) Message-Id: <199905262005.QAA05624@quark.ChrisBowman.com> X-Sender: crb@quark X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 16:03:34 -0400 To: "Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson" From: "Christopher R. Bowman" Subject: Re: NCR SCSI Controller Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990526093720.A26344@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 09:37 AM 5/26/99 -0700, Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson wrote: >This might sound odd but I thought I would ask anyways. I have a: > > ncr0: rev 0x04 int a irq 12 on pci0.17.0 > Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: > >When it boots up through the bios stage I see my HD indicator working. Once >system starts to boot I no longer get any activity on my HD indicator. Has >anyone else seen this?. Everything works but some times these stupid >indicators can help you when troubleshooting or when something odd is goiig on. >Just curious to know if I am not alone. If you need more info about the SCSI >controller let me know. It just is not my card. We have one at work that is >the same thing. I have no illusion (and neither should you) that I can fix the problem, but I would be interested in knowing what boards have this problem. This used to occur on other cards IIRC for which you will need to check the mail archives or the code for more information. -------- Christopher R. Bowman crb@ChrisBowman.com http://www.ChrisBowman.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 26 13:24:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from the.oneinsane.net (the.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F3D815659 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:24:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net) Received: from lunatic.oneinsane.net (insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.231]) by the.oneinsane.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA08708; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:24:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from insane@localhost) by lunatic.oneinsane.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA33986; Wed, 26 May 1999 13:24:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 13:24:03 -0700 From: "Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson" To: "Christopher R. Bowman" Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NCR SCSI Controller Message-ID: <19990526132403.B28916@lunatic.oneinsane.net> References: <19990526093720.A26344@lunatic.oneinsane.net> <199905262005.QAA05624@quark.ChrisBowman.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <199905262005.QAA05624@quark.ChrisBowman.com>; from Christopher R. Bowman on Wed, May 26, 1999 at 04:03:34PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD lunatic.oneinsane.net 3.2-RELEASE X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net X-PGP-KEY: http://www.oneinsane.net/~insane/insane-pgp5i.txt X-Uptime: 1:20PM up 1 day, 4:06, 4 users, load averages: 0.00, 0.01, 0.00 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 04:03:34PM -0400, Christopher R. Bowman wrote: > At 09:37 AM 5/26/99 -0700, Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson wrote: > >This might sound odd but I thought I would ask anyways. I have a: > > > > ncr0: rev 0x04 int a irq 12 on pci0.17.0 > > Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: > > > >When it boots up through the bios stage I see my HD indicator working. Once > >system starts to boot I no longer get any activity on my HD indicator. Has > >anyone else seen this?. Everything works but some times these stupid > >indicators can help you when troubleshooting or when something odd is goiig > on. > >Just curious to know if I am not alone. If you need more info about the SCSI > >controller let me know. It just is not my card. We have one at work that is > >the same thing. > > I have no illusion (and neither should you) that I can fix the problem, but I > would be interested in knowing what boards have this problem. This used to > occur on other cards IIRC for which you will need to check the mail archives or > the code for more information. Here is the information directly off the chip: SYMBIOS LOGIC 53C875J 609-0392654 DP03425 9720R Board has the floowing stamped on it: SYM8751SP FCC ID: B8J8751SP TIA -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was null and void ------------------------------------------------------------------- I can only please one person per day. Today is not YOUR day. Tomorrow doesn't look too good either. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 26 14:49:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from cs.CS.NMSU.Edu (cs.CS.NMSU.Edu [128.123.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D6B15665 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 14:49:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fzhang@cs.CS.NMSU.Edu) Received: from budvar (budvar [128.123.64.142]) by cs.CS.NMSU.Edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id PAA14586 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:49:09 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199905262149.PAA14586@cs.CS.NMSU.Edu> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:48:57 -0600 (MDT) From: Fusie Zhang Reply-To: Fusie Zhang Subject: pnp boca modem To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: M7vCA4LUnqG9zLFMSdUmTg== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.2 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org has anybody got a plug and play modem, specifically the Boca 56k flex voice and data/fax modem working? pls help. Fujie Zhang 2217 Hagarty Road #12, Las Cruces, NM 88001. (505)532-8307 131 Science Hall, NMSU, Las Cruces, NM 88003. 646-6229 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 26 15:21:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from cserv.oksys.bg (ipp-8-011-sofia.ttm.bg [195.230.8.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EDFF157B1 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:21:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ian@bulinfo.net) Received: from bulinfo.net (ian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cserv.oksys.bg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA36548; Thu, 27 May 1999 01:21:04 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ian@bulinfo.net) Message-ID: <374C73D0.68358FE6@bulinfo.net> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 01:21:04 +0300 From: Iani Brankov Organization: ok systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson" Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NCR SCSI Controller References: <19990526093720.A26344@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson wrote: > > This might sound odd but I thought I would ask anyways. I have a: > > ncr0: rev 0x04 int a irq 12 on pci0.17.0 > Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: > > When it boots up through the bios stage I see my HD indicator working. Once > system starts to boot I no longer get any activity on my HD indicator. Has > anyone else seen this?. Everything works but some times these stupid > indicators can help you when troubleshooting or when something odd is goiig on. > Just curious to know if I am not alone. If you need more info about the SCSI > controller let me know. It just is not my card. We have one at work that is > the same thing. Yes. I experience the same problem, but with my builtin IDE led. After loading the wdc driver the led stays on, no matter is there disk activity or not. Almost the same rpoblem as yours. -- iani To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 26 15:28:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E91C1582F for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:27:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.9.1/frmug-2.3/nospam) with UUCP id AAA03328 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 May 1999 00:27:56 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: by keltia.freenix.fr (Postfix, from userid 101) id 3DBAE87AE; Thu, 27 May 1999 00:24:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roberto) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 00:24:54 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NCR SCSI Controller Message-ID: <19990527002454.A76718@keltia.freenix.fr> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org References: <19990526093720.A26344@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.95.5i In-Reply-To: <19990526093720.A26344@lunatic.oneinsane.net>; from Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson on Wed, May 26, 1999 at 09:37:20AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT/ELF ctm#5322 AMD-K6 MMX @ 200 MHz Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org According to Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson: > system starts to boot I no longer get any activity on my HD indicator. Has > anyone else seen this?. Everything works but some times these stupid What you're missing is this option to put in the kernel config. file. Why it is not the default is that it may hang some no-so-compatible NCR based cards. I know it works with my two ASUS cards (SC-875 & SC-200). options SCSI_NCR_SYMBIOS_COMPAT # for LEDs -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 4.0-CURRENT #71: Sun May 9 20:16:32 CEST 1999 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 26 15:29:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from george.lbl.gov (george.lbl.gov [131.243.2.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 498C6157B1 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:29:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jin@george.lbl.gov) Received: (from jin@localhost) by george.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA09649; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:29:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:29:31 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905262229.PAA09649@george.lbl.gov> From: jin@george.lbl.gov To: ian@bulinfo.net, insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net Subject: Re: NCR SCSI Controller Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > This might sound odd but I thought I would ask anyways. I have a: > > ncr0: rev 0x04 int a irq 12 on pci0.17.0 > Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: > > When it boots up through the bios stage I see my HD indicator working. Once > system starts to boot I no longer get any activity on my HD indicator. Has > anyone else seen this?. Everything works but some times these stupid > indicators can help you when troubleshooting or when something odd is goiig on To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 26 15:39: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from george.lbl.gov (george.lbl.gov [131.243.2.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49F6514F8B for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:38:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jin@george.lbl.gov) Received: (from jin@localhost) by george.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA09872; Wed, 26 May 1999 15:38:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 15:38:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905262238.PAA09872@george.lbl.gov> From: jin@george.lbl.gov To: ian@bulinfo.net, insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net Subject: Re: NCR SCSI Controller Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org } > This might sound odd but I thought I would ask anyways. I have a: } > } > ncr0: rev 0x04 int a irq 12 on pci0.17.0 } > Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: } > } > When it boots up through the bios stage I see my HD indicator working. Once } > system starts to boot I no longer get any activity on my HD indicator. Has } > anyone else seen this?. Everything works but some times these stupid } > indicators can help you when troubleshooting or when something odd is goiig on } . } > Just curious to know if I am not alone. If you need more info about the SCSI } > controller let me know. It just is not my card. We have one at work that is } > the same thing. } } Yes. I experience the same problem, but with my builtin IDE led. After loading } the wdc driver the led stays on, no matter is there disk activity or not. Almost } the same rpoblem as yours. } } -- iani Since some lines are lead by a ".", during the pasting, the previous mail was accidnetly sent out. Sorry about that. This is kind of interesting issue. The LED on a SCSI drive should be actived by the drive, but neither software nor the controller as my understanding. I am curious if the LED can be actived by accessing the disk after the system booted-up. If so, then maybe the problem is the LED on that particular hard drive. -Jin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 26 16:14:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from cserv.oksys.bg (ipp-8-011-sofia.ttm.bg [195.230.8.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F33AD14F0A for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 16:13:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ian@bulinfo.net) Received: from bulinfo.net (ian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cserv.oksys.bg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA43164; Thu, 27 May 1999 02:12:16 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ian@bulinfo.net) Message-ID: <374C7FCF.C5739710@bulinfo.net> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 02:12:15 +0300 From: Iani Brankov Organization: ok systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jin@george.lbl.gov Cc: insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NCR SCSI Controller References: <199905262238.PAA09872@george.lbl.gov> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org jin@george.lbl.gov wrote: [snip] > } Yes. I experience the same problem, but with my builtin IDE led. After loading > } the wdc driver the led stays on, no matter is there disk activity or not. Almost > } the same rpoblem as yours. > } > } -- iani > > Since some lines are lead by a ".", during the pasting, the previous mail > was accidnetly sent out. Sorry about that. > > This is kind of interesting issue. The LED on a SCSI drive should be actived > by the drive, but neither software nor the controller as my understanding. > > I am curious if the LED can be actived by accessing the disk after the > system booted-up. If so, then maybe the problem is the LED on that particular > hard drive. > > -Jin Excuse me, I meant built-in ide controller's led. (The regular ide led connected to the mb). Not the drive's built-in led. --iani To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 26 17: 9:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from the.oneinsane.net (the.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C420614DF2 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 17:09:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net) Received: from lunatic.oneinsane.net (insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.231]) by the.oneinsane.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA17334; Wed, 26 May 1999 17:09:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from insane@localhost) by lunatic.oneinsane.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA39350; Wed, 26 May 1999 17:09:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 17:09:17 -0700 From: "Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson" To: Ollivier Robert Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NCR SCSI Controller Message-ID: <19990526170917.A39188@lunatic.oneinsane.net> References: <19990526093720.A26344@lunatic.oneinsane.net> <19990527002454.A76718@keltia.freenix.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <19990527002454.A76718@keltia.freenix.fr>; from Ollivier Robert on Thu, May 27, 1999 at 12:24:54AM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD lunatic.oneinsane.net 3.2-RELEASE X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net X-PGP-KEY: http://www.oneinsane.net/~insane/insane-pgp5i.txt X-Uptime: 5:07PM up 1 day, 7:54, 4 users, load averages: 0.13, 0.04, 0.01 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, May 27, 1999 at 12:24:54AM +0200, Ollivier Robert wrote: > According to Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson: > > system starts to boot I no longer get any activity on my HD indicator. Has > > anyone else seen this?. Everything works but some times these stupid > > What you're missing is this option to put in the kernel config. file. Why it > is not the default is that it may hang some no-so-compatible NCR based > cards. I know it works with my two ASUS cards (SC-875 & SC-200). > > options SCSI_NCR_SYMBIOS_COMPAT # for LEDs > With that in my kernel config here is what I get when I run config. lunatic# config LUNATIC LUNATIC:68: unknown option "SCSI_NCR_SYMBIOS_COMPAT" Unknown option used - it is VERY important that you do make clean && make depend before recompiling Kernel build directory is ../../compile/LUNATIC TIA -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was null and void ------------------------------------------------------------------- Why is it that when we talk to God we're said to be praying, but when God talks to us we're schizophrenic? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 26 17:32:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from relay05.netaddress.usa.net (relay05.netaddress.usa.net [204.68.24.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DF15A14E90 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 17:32:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zanewestover@usa.net) Received: (qmail 26136 invoked from network); 27 May 1999 00:32:19 -0000 Received: from www0t.netaddress.usa.net (204.68.24.49) by outbound.netaddress.usa.net with SMTP; 27 May 1999 00:32:19 -0000 Received: (qmail 21028 invoked by uid 60001); 27 May 1999 00:32:18 -0000 Message-ID: <19990527003218.21027.qmail@www0t.netaddress.usa.net> Received: from 204.68.24.49 by www0t via web-mailer(M3.0.0.135) on Thu May 27 00:32:18 GMT 1999 Date: 26 May 99 17:32:18 PDT From: Zane Westover To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: AMD k6-2 400 X-Mailer: USANET web-mailer (M3.0.0.135) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I am searching for the ultimate motherboard for a small server I am building. I have been given an AMD K6-2 400 MHz to work with so I need a= Socket 7 board. I am also interested in on-board video and sound (if anyo= ne knows of any) and I am also researching overclocking. Could you please r= esond with a few ideas of motherboards? If anyone has an AWESOME setup, or know= s of one, I could be willing to purchase another processor. Thanks. Zane ____________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=3D= 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 26 18:18:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 619CE15462 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 18:18:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maddox@p-1.eng.sun.com) Received: from engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.146.1.13]) by mercury.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA27516; Wed, 26 May 1999 18:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p-1.eng.sun.com (p-1.Eng.Sun.COM [129.144.125.250]) by engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id SAA14230; Wed, 26 May 1999 18:18:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (maddox@localhost) by p-1.eng.sun.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id SAA05606; Wed, 26 May 1999 18:17:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 18:17:51 -0700 (PDT) From: William Maddox X-Sender: maddox@p-1 To: David Greenman Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Support for Symbios vs. Adaptect SCSI In-Reply-To: <199905232235.PAA06073@implode.root.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You recently made the following remark on freebsd-hardware: > The Adaptec chips are generally better supported in > FreeBSD and I wouldn't consider anything else for systems that I build. > > -DG > > David Greenman > Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org > Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com Could you elaborate on what you mean by "better supported"? Do you mean: 1) Has fewer bugs? 2) Makes better use of the hardware capabilities? 3) Has a maintainer who is willing/able to devote more time to the task? Are there specific deficiencies in the drivers for the Symbios cards that cause you to recommend against them? I ask because I have heard many positive comments regarding the Symbios-based cards, generally to the effect that they offer performance nearly indistinguishable from Adaptec (at least for a workstation) and are clearly a lot cheaper. I've also had good results with an Asus SC-200 under Linux. Given your role in the FreeBSD project, however, I would expect that you have the straight scoop on this, and a lot more experience with SCSI cards and FreeBSD. Thanks for any info you might offer. William Maddox To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 26 18:29:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from ringer.cisco.com (ringer.cisco.com [144.254.142.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9799514CEA; Wed, 26 May 1999 18:29:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from amcrae@cisco.com) Received: (amcrae@localhost) by ringer.cisco.com (8.8.4-Cisco.1/8.6.5) id LAA06310; Thu, 27 May 1999 11:30:06 +1000 (EST) From: Andrew McRae Message-Id: <199905270130.LAA06310@ringer.cisco.com> Subject: SMP Hardware report for SuperMicro P6DBE To: freebsd-smp@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 11:30:06 +1000 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings, I am reporting some experiences with SMP on the Supermicro P6DBE Rev 1.x motherboard that may go into the SMP rogue hardware list. I was running this with a Fireport 40 UW SCSI card, a WD8013WC ISA Ethernet card, and a Diamond Stealth 2000 3D PCI video card. The P6DBE (http://www.supermicro.com/PRODUCT/MotherBoards/440BX/p6dbe.htm) does not reliably run two processors. One works fine, but with two the system will boot and run for a short time but crash or hang within a few minutes. I contacted Supermicro, but they were not willing to look at the problem unless I could reproduce it using NT (not having a NT copy around, I haven't done that). I was using the Rev 1.x motherboard, and this has since been obsoleted with a Rev 2.x motherboard, so I suspect that the Rev 1.x board has some inherent hardware problems. The Rev 2.x card may well work fine - I haven't tried one. To confirm that it wasn't FreeBSD, I swapped in an Intel N440BX card, and this has worked flawlessly for a couple of weeks with the same kernel that I tried with the P6DBE card. Cheers, Andrew McRae (amcrae@cisco.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 26 18:35:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from implode.root.com (root.com [209.102.106.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C4D15005 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 18:35:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA04503; Wed, 26 May 1999 18:35:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905270135.SAA04503@implode.root.com> To: William Maddox Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Support for Symbios vs. Adaptect SCSI In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 May 1999 18:17:51 PDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 18:35:22 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >You recently made the following remark on freebsd-hardware: > >> The Adaptec chips are generally better supported in >> FreeBSD and I wouldn't consider anything else for systems that I build. >> >> -DG >> >> David Greenman >> Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org >> Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com > >Could you elaborate on what you mean by "better supported"? > >Do you mean: > > 1) Has fewer bugs? > 2) Makes better use of the hardware capabilities? > 3) Has a maintainer who is willing/able to devote > more time to the task? "Yes". Anything further on this needs to come from Justin Gibbs. -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 26 18:52: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E630815462 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 18:51:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from semuta.feral.com (semuta [192.67.166.70]) by feral.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA23882; Wed, 26 May 1999 18:51:27 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 18:50:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: David Greenman Cc: William Maddox , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Support for Symbios vs. Adaptect SCSI In-Reply-To: <199905270135.SAA04503@implode.root.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Now let me annoy and stir the pot by stating that Qlogic cards, while more expensive than either Adaptec or Symbios cards aren't bad performers and support Ultra2 (Qlogic 1080's) in FreeBSD but also relatively seamlessly also support Fibre Channel (private loop) with the same driver. (ducking away from thrown vegetables...) On Wed, 26 May 1999, David Greenman wrote: > > > >You recently made the following remark on freebsd-hardware: > > > >> The Adaptec chips are generally better supported in > >> FreeBSD and I wouldn't consider anything else for systems that I build. > >> > >> -DG > >> > >> David Greenman > >> Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org > >> Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com > > > >Could you elaborate on what you mean by "better supported"? > > > >Do you mean: > > > > 1) Has fewer bugs? > > 2) Makes better use of the hardware capabilities? > > 3) Has a maintainer who is willing/able to devote > > more time to the task? > > "Yes". Anything further on this needs to come from Justin Gibbs. > > -DG > > David Greenman > Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org > Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 26 18:56:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from ryouko.nas.nasa.gov (ryouko.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.34.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3912A15713 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 18:56:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@ryouko.nas.nasa.gov) Received: from ryouko.nas.nasa.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ryouko.nas.nasa.gov (8.9.3/NAS8.8.7n) with ESMTP id SAA11635 for ; Wed, 26 May 1999 18:56:25 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905270156.SAA11635@ryouko.nas.nasa.gov> To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Support for Symbios vs. Adaptect SCSI In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 May 1999 18:35:22 PDT." <199905270135.SAA04503@implode.root.com> Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 18:56:25 -0700 From: "Gregory P. Smith" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >> The Adaptec chips are generally better supported in > >> FreeBSD and I wouldn't consider anything else for systems that I build. > >> > >> David Greenman > > > >Could you elaborate on what you mean by "better supported"? > > > >Do you mean: > > > > 1) Has fewer bugs? > > 2) Makes better use of the hardware capabilities? > > 3) Has a maintainer who is willing/able to devote > > more time to the task? > > "Yes". Anything further on this needs to come from Justin Gibbs. > > -DG > David Greenman I can believe 1 & 3, but could you (Justin?) elaborate on 2? I've always been under the impression that everything after the old ISA Adaptec 1542CF has been basically riding on Adaptec's brand name to justify their cards costing 2-3x as much as the equivilent Symbios (NCR) based card. [You can pick up UW-SCSI 875 based Symbios cards for $75 bucks these days] Sun uses the Symbios chipset (875) in their Ultras, Digital included it (810) on some of their older Alpha motherboards (I don't know if they integrate SCSI on any of the newer ones). comments? Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed May 26 21:48: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A28F15167; Wed, 26 May 1999 21:48:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA04184; Thu, 27 May 1999 14:47:41 +1000 Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:47:41 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199905270447.OAA04184@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bob@anet.donetsk.ua, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Multiproc kernel 3.1-Release & Cyclades Cyclom 8Yep PCI Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >I have multiprocessor machine: > >matherboard SOYO 5TX2/X5 with 2 intel 166 proceccors >multiport card Cyclades Cyclom 8Yep > >Kernel config: > >options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel >options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O >options NCPU=2 # number of CPUs >options NBUS=2 # number of busses > >All good work until somthing do start to send to /dev/cXX >Then kernel panic and reboot !!! > >All good working under single processor kernel ... no problem There seems to be a problem with nested locks. What was the panic message? Try deleting the code in the SMP ifdefs in cy.c, and don't use fast interrupts with SMP: (a) for the pci version, don't use option CY_PCI_FASTINTR. (b) for the isa version, delete the line with RI_FAST in it in cy.c. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 27 7:38:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from rose.man.poznan.pl (rose.man.poznan.pl [150.254.173.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28F10150DE for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 07:38:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michalp@man.poznan.pl) Received: from localhost (michalp@localhost) by rose.man.poznan.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA10268 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:38:37 +0200 (METDST) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 16:38:37 +0200 (METDST) From: Michal Przybylski To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: atm problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i've succesfully compiled 3.1 release kernel, with atm and altq support. I'm using Fore PCA200 EPC network card The device is detected by kernel as hfa0 and there is problem. Kernel loads succesfully but shows the message (after detection of hfa0) "microcode not loaded" I've found that i need to use /sbin/fore_dnld program to load that microcode, but where can i find that microcode? I've found some files with 'bin' extension, but none works. Fore_dnld seems to hang up. What should i do to solve problem? thanks Michal Przybylski Poznan Supercomputing & Networking Center Poland email: michalp@man.poznan.pl tel. +48601567947 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 27 8:28:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80A1814D67 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 08:28:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@narnia.plutotech.com) Received: (from gibbs@localhost) by narnia.plutotech.com (8.9.1/8.7.3) id JAA04842; Thu, 27 May 1999 09:17:57 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 09:17:57 -0600 (MDT) From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Message-Id: <199905271517.JAA04842@narnia.plutotech.com> To: "Gregory P. Smith" Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Support for Symbios vs. Adaptect SCSI X-Newsgroups: pluto.freebsd.hardware In-Reply-To: <199905270156.SAA11635@ryouko.nas.nasa.gov> User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980818 ("Laura") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.0-CURRENT (i386)) Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <199905270156.SAA11635@ryouko.nas.nasa.gov> you wrote: >> >Do you mean: >> > >> > 1) Has fewer bugs? >> > 2) Makes better use of the hardware capabilities? >> > 3) Has a maintainer who is willing/able to devote >> > more time to the task? > > I can believe 1 & 3, but could you (Justin?) elaborate on 2? I've > always been under the impression that everything after the old ISA > Adaptec 1542CF has been basically riding on Adaptec's brand name to > justify their cards costing 2-3x as much as the equivilent Symbios > (NCR) based card. [You can pick up UW-SCSI 875 based Symbios cards > for $75 bucks these days] In general, the PCI interface on the Adaptec chips is unsurpassed in the industry. They have larger FIFOs and lower latency than their competitors, and pretty much work if you follow the supplied schematics. These were the reasons Pluto chose Adaptec over Symbios for our motherboard applications where PCI bandwidth is a critical concern. On the SCSI side of things, the built in RISC core has several features that reduce DMA overhead and allow DMA prefetch to take advantage of spare PCI bandwidth. You can setup background DMAs on the secondard DMA channel to prefetch the next command to be serviced, the next block of S/G list entries for the current command or other data well before you need it so that even on a highly utilized PCI bus, you rarely keep SCSI devices waiting. They really do know how to design hardware. Now for typical workstation and server workloads where you don't have a fully populated PCI bus (Pluto boards can have up to 10 devices per PCI bus), the Symbios parts should be able to provide performance comensurate with those provided by Adaptec. The only factor preventing that, in my opinion, is the structure of the NCR driver's firmware. The format of the firmware, which is the concatenation of several 'C' structures of different types, makes it extremely difficult to modify unless you understand all of the strange alignment restrictions and vagaries of this method. There are known scalability problems in the data structures used to represent SCSI transactions in this driver and I have not found the time to completely understand how the firmware format to address them. My plan is to write an assembler for the Symbios scripts engine so that the firmware is easier to read, modify, and understand. At that point, I would expect the Symbios parts to be as well supported under FreeBSD as the Adaptec parts. I don't expect to get around to this until late this summer. -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 27 9: 4:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from datacompusa.com (tnt2-27-167.iserv.net [204.157.27.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8FD14C57; Thu, 27 May 1999 09:04:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msb@datacompusa.com) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (msb.datacompusa.com [192.168.1.100]) by datacompusa.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id MAA18893; Thu, 27 May 1999 12:02:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from msb@datacompusa.com) Message-Id: <199905271602.MAA18893@datacompusa.com> Subject: Re: Multiproc kernel 3.1-Release & Cyclades Cyclom 8Yep PCI Date: Thu, 27 May 99 12:03:53 -0400 x-sender: msb@datacompusa.com x-mailer: Claris Emailer 1.1 From: msb To: "Bruce Evans" , , Cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>I have multiprocessor machine: >> >>matherboard SOYO 5TX2/X5 with 2 intel 166 proceccors >>multiport card Cyclades Cyclom 8Yep >> >>All good work until somthing do start to send to /dev/cXX >>Then kernel panic and reboot !!! >> >There seems to be a problem with nested locks. What was the panic >message? I have the same problem with my Cyclom Ye cards (both the isa & pci variety) The kernel panics with: panic messages: --- panic: rslock: cpu: 0, addr: 0xf026a15c, lock: 0x00000001 mp_lock = 00000001; cpuid = 0; lapic.id = 00000000 a stack trace shows: #0 boot (howto=260) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285 #1 0xf01340a5 in panic (fmt=0xf0218870 "from debugger") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:446 #2 0xf0119e35 in db_panic (addr=-266450897, have_addr=0, count=-1, modif=0xf8cf0bf0 "") at ../../ddb/db_command.c:432 #3 0xf0119dd5 in db_command (last_cmdp=0xf0232fbc, cmd_table=0xf0232e1c, aux_cmd_tablep=0xf0245c50) at ../../ddb/db_command.c:332 #4 0xf0119e9a in db_command_loop () at ../../ddb/db_command.c:454 #5 0xf011c1eb in db_trap (type=3, code=0) at ../../ddb/db_trap.c:71 #6 0xf01e45d1 in kdb_trap (type=3, code=0, regs=0xf8cf0ce4) at ../../i386/i386/db_interface.c:157 #7 0xf01f7bd8 in trap (frame={tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = -257314816, tf_esi = 256, tf_ebp = -120648408, tf_isp = -120648436, tf_ebx = -266377223, tf_edx = -266174249, tf_ecx = 8, tf_eax = 18, tf_trapno = 3, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -266450897, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 70, tf_esp = -266174265, tf_ss = -266228530}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:548 #8 0xf01e482f in Debugger (msg=0xf021acce "panic") at ../../i386/i386/db_interface.c:317 #9 0xf013409c in panic ( fmt=0xf01f67f9 "rslock: cpu: %d, addr: 0x%08x, lock: 0x%08x") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:444 #10 0xf01f67f9 in bsl1 () #11 0xf01fd2b9 in cyopen (dev=12416, flag=5, mode=8192, p=0xf8ceae60) at ../../i386/isa/cy.c:755 #12 0xf0162d25 in spec_open (ap=0xf8cf0e30) at ../../miscfs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:210 #13 0xf0162ba9 in spec_vnoperate (ap=0xf8cf0e30) at ../../miscfs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:129 #14 0xf01c6121 in ufs_vnoperatespec (ap=0xf8cf0e30) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_vnops.c:2312 #15 0xf015d436 in vn_open (ndp=0xf8cf0f04, fmode=5, cmode=0) at vnode_if.h:163 #16 0xf0159f45 in open (p=0xf8ceae60, uap=0xf8cf0f94) at ../../kern/vfs_syscalls.c:935 #17 0xf01f8423 in syscall (frame={tf_es = 39, tf_ds = 39, tf_edi = 134868999, tf_esi = 134800052, tf_ebp = -272638536, tf_isp = -120647708, tf_ebx = 134865472, tf_edx = 11, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = 5, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = 134548388, tf_cs = 31, tf_eflags = 582, tf_esp = -272638592, tf_ss = 39}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:1100 #18 0xf01e4fec in Xint0x80_syscall () line 755 in cy.c is a call to commctl which is also defined in cy.c cy.c line 755 is "(void)commctl(com, TIOCM_DTR | TIOCM_RTS, DMSET);" after crash debugging shows that the value of com is 0x3 at the time of crash. Since com is a pointer, I think we know that it is wrong. I have added a printf statement to a varitation of cy.c that shows that just before the call to commctl, the value of com is correct (not 3). Any help towards getting the cy driver up and running on the smp kernel would be appreciated. -- Michael Boers Datacomp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 27 9:32:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from godzilla.zeta.org.au (godzilla.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EDE914C0C; Thu, 27 May 1999 09:32:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@godzilla.zeta.org.au) Received: (from bde@localhost) by godzilla.zeta.org.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA15122; Fri, 28 May 1999 02:31:48 +1000 Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 02:31:48 +1000 From: Bruce Evans Message-Id: <199905271631.CAA15122@godzilla.zeta.org.au> To: bde@zeta.org.au, bob@anet.donetsk.ua, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, mboers@datacompusa.com Subject: Re: Multiproc kernel 3.1-Release & Cyclades Cyclom 8Yep PCI Cc: freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>There seems to be a problem with nested locks. What was the panic >>message? > >I have the same problem with my Cyclom Ye cards (both the isa & pci >variety) > >The kernel panics with: > >panic messages: >--- >panic: rslock: cpu: 0, addr: 0xf026a15c, lock: 0x00000001 >mp_lock = 00000001; cpuid = 0; lapic.id = 00000000 That's the problem with nested locks. >after crash debugging shows that the value of com is 0x3 at the time of >crash. Since com is a pointer, I think we know that it is wrong. I have >added a printf statement to a varitation of cy.c that shows that just >before the call to commctl, the value of com is correct (not 3). I don't think that's the problem. >Any help towards getting the cy driver up and running on the smp kernel >would be appreciated. See hints in my previous mail. The main problem is that disable_intr() isn't doesn't nest properly and I only avoided this problem for !SMP case. The SMP disable_intr() is an evil macro that calls a locking function which crashes if the lock is already held. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 27 10: 6:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from frmug.org (frmug-gw.frmug.org [193.56.58.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 821E51515A for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 10:06:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by frmug.org (8.9.1/frmug-2.3/nospam) with UUCP id TAA19230 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 May 1999 19:06:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roberto@keltia.freenix.fr) Received: by keltia.freenix.fr (Postfix, from userid 101) id 64AF487AE; Thu, 27 May 1999 07:39:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from roberto) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 07:39:20 +0200 From: Ollivier Robert To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NCR SCSI Controller Message-ID: <19990527073920.A79609@keltia.freenix.fr> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org References: <19990526093720.A26344@lunatic.oneinsane.net> <19990527002454.A76718@keltia.freenix.fr> <19990526170917.A39188@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.95.5i In-Reply-To: <19990526170917.A39188@lunatic.oneinsane.net>; from Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson on Wed, May 26, 1999 at 05:09:17PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT/ELF ctm#5322 AMD-K6 MMX @ 200 MHz Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org According to Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson: > With that in my kernel config here is what I get when I run config. Ignore the message. -- Ollivier ROBERT -=- FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! -=- roberto@keltia.freenix.fr FreeBSD keltia.freenix.fr 4.0-CURRENT #71: Sun May 9 20:16:32 CEST 1999 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 27 11:11: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.gfit.net (ns.gfit.net [209.41.124.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18EB915906 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 11:11:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Received: from paranor.embt.net (timembt.iinc.com [206.67.169.229]) by mercury.gfit.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA25634 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:05:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990527141051.00b63bd8@mail.embt.com> X-Sender: tembt@mail.embt.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:10:51 -0400 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: Tom Embt Subject: Re: NCR SCSI Controller Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Yes. I experience the same problem, but with my builtin IDE led. After loading >the wdc driver the led stays on, no matter is there disk activity or not. Almost >the same rpoblem as yours. > >-- iani I have noticed the same thing here in two situations: 1. IBM DTTA-351010 UDMA 2 10.1GB IDE drive on primary master, SONY CDU-55E PIO 0 2x IDE CDROM on secondary master. 2. Western Digital AC2420F PIO 3 420MB IDE drive on primary master, Seagate ST31276A PIO 4 1.2GB IDE drive on primary slave, assorted CD-ROMS on secondary channel. System 1 is an Intel TX chipset, 2 is some SiS Aladdin thingamajig. Removing the SONY from system 1, or even disabling the second IDE channel fixes the problem. In system 2 i *think* the problem disappeared if I replaced the WD AC2420F with an IBM 540MB PIO 2 drive, but I am not completely sure on that because the SONY CD was on secondary in that system for a time, and that could have been what was causing it. If anybody is interested I can give more detailed info or do some testing. I know this problem is in both 2.2.5-PREREL and 3.2-STABLE from about a week ago. Tom Embt tom@embt.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 27 11:11: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.gfit.net (ns.gfit.net [209.41.124.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1261814F99 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 11:10:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Received: from paranor.embt.net (timembt.iinc.com [206.67.169.229]) by mercury.gfit.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA25631 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:05:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990527141017.00b6579c@mail.embt.com> X-Sender: tembt@mail.embt.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:10:17 -0400 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org From: Tom Embt Subject: Re: NCR SCSI Controller Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Yes. I experience the same problem, but with my builtin IDE led. After loading >the wdc driver the led stays on, no matter is there disk activity or not. Almost >the same rpoblem as yours. > >-- iani I have noticed the same thing here in two situations: 1. IBM DTTA-351010 UDMA 2 10.1GB IDE drive on primary master, SONY CDU-55E PIO 0 2x IDE CDROM on secondary master. 2. Western Digital AC2420F PIO 3 420MB IDE drive on primary master, Seagate ST31276A PIO 4 1.2GB IDE drive on primary slave, assorted CD-ROMS on secondary channel. System 1 is an Intel TX chipset, 2 is some SiS Aladdin thingamajig. Removing the SONY from system 1, or even disabling the second IDE channel fixes the problem. In system 2 i *think* the problem disappeared if I replaced the WD AC2420F with an IBM 540MB PIO 2 drive, but I am not completely sure on that because the SONY CD was on secondary in that system for a time, and that could have been what was causing it. If anybody is interested I can give more detailed info or do some testing. I know this problem is in both 2.2.5-PREREL and 3.2-STABLE from about a week ago. Tom Embt tom@embt.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 27 11:18:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5DE215933 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 11:18:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA01152; Thu, 27 May 1999 11:15:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905271815.LAA01152@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Iani Brankov Cc: "Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson" , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NCR SCSI Controller In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 May 1999 01:21:04 +0300." <374C73D0.68358FE6@bulinfo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 11:15:26 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson wrote: > > > > This might sound odd but I thought I would ask anyways. I have a: > > > > ncr0: rev 0x04 int a irq 12 on pci0.17.0 > > Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: > > > > When it boots up through the bios stage I see my HD indicator working. Once > > system starts to boot I no longer get any activity on my HD indicator. Has > > anyone else seen this?. Everything works but some times these stupid > > indicators can help you when troubleshooting or when something odd is goiig on. > > Just curious to know if I am not alone. If you need more info about the SCSI > > controller let me know. It just is not my card. We have one at work that is > > the same thing. > > Yes. I experience the same problem, but with my builtin IDE led. After loading > the wdc driver the led stays on, no matter is there disk activity or not. Almost > the same rpoblem as yours. Unrelated, but due to the same basic stuffup; bogus (nonstandard) hardware design in both cases. The NCR card has the LED connected somewhere weird, and likewise your onboard IDE controller has done something funny with its LED. You're both SOL, sorry. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 27 11:48:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from quark.ChrisBowman.com (crbowman.erols.com [209.122.47.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A13159B8; Thu, 27 May 1999 11:48:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crb@ChrisBowman.com) Received: from fermion (fermion.ChrisBowman.com [10.0.1.2]) by quark.ChrisBowman.com (8.9.2/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA07996; Thu, 27 May 1999 14:47:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from crb@ChrisBowman.com) Message-Id: <199905271847.OAA07996@quark.ChrisBowman.com> X-Sender: crb@quark X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 14:46:06 -0400 To: "Justin T. Gibbs" From: "Christopher R. Bowman" Subject: Re: Support for Symbios vs. Adaptect SCSI Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199905271517.JAA04842@narnia.plutotech.com> References: <199905270156.SAA11635@ryouko.nas.nasa.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 09:17 AM 5/27/99 -0600, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: >In article <199905270156.SAA11635@ryouko.nas.nasa.gov> you wrote: >>> >Do you mean: >>> > >>> > 1) Has fewer bugs? >>> > 2) Makes better use of the hardware capabilities? >>> > 3) Has a maintainer who is willing/able to devote >>> > more time to the task? >> >> I can believe 1 & 3, but could you (Justin?) elaborate on 2? I've >> always been under the impression that everything after the old ISA >> Adaptec 1542CF has been basically riding on Adaptec's brand name to >> justify their cards costing 2-3x as much as the equivilent Symbios >> (NCR) based card. [You can pick up UW-SCSI 875 based Symbios cards >> for $75 bucks these days] > >In general, the PCI interface on the Adaptec chips is unsurpassed >in the industry. They have larger FIFOs and lower latency than their >competitors, and pretty much work if you follow the supplied schematics. >These were the reasons Pluto chose Adaptec over Symbios for our >motherboard applications where PCI bandwidth is a critical concern. >On the SCSI side of things, the built in RISC core has several features >that reduce DMA overhead and allow DMA prefetch to take advantage of >spare PCI bandwidth. You can setup background DMAs on the secondard DMA >channel to prefetch the next command to be serviced, the next block of >S/G list entries for the current command or other data well before you >need it so that even on a highly utilized PCI bus, you rarely keep SCSI >devices waiting. They really do know how to design hardware. I find this type of information most helpful in understanding why things are the way they are. Thank you. >Now for typical workstation and server workloads where you don't >have a fully populated PCI bus (Pluto boards can have up to 10 >devices per PCI bus), the Symbios parts should be able to provide >performance comensurate with those provided by Adaptec. The only >factor preventing that, in my opinion, is the structure of the NCR >driver's firmware. The format of the firmware, which is the >concatenation of several 'C' structures of different types, makes >it extremely difficult to modify unless you understand all of the >strange alignment restrictions and vagaries of this method. There >are known scalability problems in the data structures used to >represent SCSI transactions in this driver and I have not found >the time to completely understand how the firmware format to address >them. My plan is to write an assembler for the Symbios scripts >engine so that the firmware is easier to read, modify, and understand. >At that point, I would expect the Symbios parts to be as well >supported under FreeBSD as the Adaptec parts. I don't expect to >get around to this until late this summer. There already exists the SCRIPTS assembler that produces C code structures containing the data as preinitialized arrays. I thought I even saw the source to it floating around somewhere. Are you looking to write a better assembler or just oblivious of the existing one? I have, in the past, written an assembler for a custom CPU for which I did the mask layout and design, and I have been looking for a way to contribute to the project (I am a hardware guy with a lot of software under my belt, but I just can't seem to wrap my head around the kernel). Perhaps you could describe what exactly you are looking for in an assembler and I could work on it for you. When it comes to SCSI I am a neophyte but I have been reading the Symbios manuals and looking at the NCR driver lately because there is so much documentation readily available. When you do begin to work on the NCR driver, I would be very interested to hear your broad outline for how you intend to redesign the driver. -------- Christopher R. Bowman crb@ChrisBowman.com http://www.ChrisBowman.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 27 12:16:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (mail.plutotech.com [206.168.67.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960D015055; Thu, 27 May 1999 12:16:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@plutotech.com) Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA57184; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:16:07 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from gibbs@plutotech.com) Message-Id: <199905271916.NAA57184@pluto.plutotech.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Christopher R. Bowman" Cc: "Justin T. Gibbs" , freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Support for Symbios vs. Adaptect SCSI In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 27 May 1999 14:46:06 EDT." <199905271847.OAA07996@quark.ChrisBowman.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 13:05:58 -0600 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>My plan is to write an assembler for the Symbios scripts >>engine so that the firmware is easier to read, modify, and understand. >>At that point, I would expect the Symbios parts to be as well >>supported under FreeBSD as the Adaptec parts. I don't expect to >>get around to this until late this summer. > >There already exists the SCRIPTS assembler that produces C code structures >containing the data as preinitialized arrays. I thought I even saw the source >to it floating around somewhere. Are you looking to write a better assembler >or just oblivious of the existing one? It is the general policy of the project to provide all the tools required to modify a driver in the standard distribution. The aic7xxx driver, for instance, provides the assembler that I wrote for its RISC engine. If the source is available for NASM (I've only seen the DOS executables) and it allows for things like chip specific program patching at device attach time, then that would certainly work. >I have, in the past, written an assembler for a custom CPU for which I did the >mask layout and design, and I have been looking for a way to contribute to the >project (I am a hardware guy with a lot of software under my belt, but I just >can't seem to wrap my head around the kernel). Perhaps you could describe >what exactly you are looking for in an assembler and I could work on it for >you. The scripts syntax is somewhat obtuse, but I guess it would suffice. The main additional feature I'd want in the assembler is the ability to easily designate condition portions of the script that can be independently patched in. Take a look at the sys/dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.seq and the output from aicasm in sys/compile/KERNAME/aic7xxx_seq.h for an idea of the patching capability I'd want. -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 27 12:20:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A50C11503F; Thu, 27 May 1999 12:20:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00128; Thu, 27 May 1999 12:20:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 12:20:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug White To: "Robert J. Adams" Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Internal ISDN TA In-Reply-To: <016801bea719$7fee57a0$3102fbd1@siscom.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 25 May 1999, Robert J. Adams wrote: > I was thinking about getting a Netgear RH348 ISDN router, then though I > might just get an internal TA for my extra fbsd box.. anyone recommend a > good internal TA to use with fbsd? In the US, internal TAs are a bit trickier to come by. I'm not sure if the built-in ISDN software supports US TAs. If you canfind the isic manpag, that ists the supported cards. Most are based on the Siemens chipset. I see a USRobotics card in there that may be of interest. Doug White Internet: dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://gladstone.uoregon.edu/~dwhite | www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 27 12:28:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.plutotech.com (mail.plutotech.com [206.168.67.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF18214BEE for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 12:28:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drew@pluto.plutotech.com) Received: (from drew@localhost) by pluto.plutotech.com (8.9.2/8.9.1) id NAA57616; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:28:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from drew) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 13:28:30 -0600 (MDT) From: Drew Eckhardt Message-Id: <199905271928.NAA57616@pluto.plutotech.com> To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Support for Symbios vs. Adaptect SCSI X-Newsgroups: pluto.freebsd.hardware In-Reply-To: <199905271847.OAA07996@quark.ChrisBowman.com> References: <199905270156.SAA11635@ryouko.nas.nasa.gov> Organization: Cc: Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <199905271847.OAA07996@quark.ChrisBowman.com> you write: >At 09:17 AM 5/27/99 -0600, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: >There already exists the SCRIPTS assembler that produces C code structures >containing the data as preinitialized arrays. When I wrote the Linux 53c810 driver, the assembler was a DOS-only product (this may or may not still be the case). At the time, my job was maintaining a BASIC compiler, and writing an assembler in C was too close to work for comfort so I kludged one together in Perl. It's freely redistributable, and generates Symbios compatable structures (by default, it embmeds the source as comments so it's easy to match the instruction pointer address to a source line when an error is encountered). >Perhaps you could describe what exactly you are looking for in an >assembler and I could work on it for you. The assembler constitutes a fairly small part of the project. IIRC, I was fairly motivated when I wrote my driver, and got the first release out after about 80 hours. The assembler was done in an afternoon, and debugged after work the next day. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 27 12:31: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from the.oneinsane.net (the.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6066F14BEE for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 12:30:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net) Received: from lunatic.oneinsane.net (insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.231]) by the.oneinsane.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA02734 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 12:30:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from insane@localhost) by lunatic.oneinsane.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA08030 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 May 1999 12:30:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 12:30:50 -0700 From: "Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NCR SCSI Controller Message-ID: <19990527123050.A7902@lunatic.oneinsane.net> References: <374C73D0.68358FE6@bulinfo.net> <199905271815.LAA01152@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <199905271815.LAA01152@dingo.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Thu, May 27, 1999 at 11:15:26AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD lunatic.oneinsane.net 3.2-RELEASE X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net X-PGP-KEY: http://www.oneinsane.net/~insane/insane-pgp5i.txt X-Uptime: 12:29PM up 4:07, 3 users, load averages: 0.07, 0.03, 0.00 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, May 27, 1999 at 11:15:26AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson wrote: > > > > > > This might sound odd but I thought I would ask anyways. I have a: > > > > > > ncr0: rev 0x04 int a irq 12 on pci0.17.0 > > > Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: > > > > > > When it boots up through the bios stage I see my HD indicator working. Once > > > system starts to boot I no longer get any activity on my HD indicator. Has > > > anyone else seen this?. Everything works but some times these stupid > > > indicators can help you when troubleshooting or when something odd is goiig on. > > > Just curious to know if I am not alone. If you need more info about the SCSI > > > controller let me know. It just is not my card. We have one at work that is > > > the same thing. > > > > Yes. I experience the same problem, but with my builtin IDE led. After loading > > the wdc driver the led stays on, no matter is there disk activity or not. Almost > > the same rpoblem as yours. > > Unrelated, but due to the same basic stuffup; bogus (nonstandard) > hardware design in both cases. > > The NCR card has the LED connected somewhere weird, and likewise your > onboard IDE controller has done something funny with its LED. > > You're both SOL, sorry. > I am wondering how IDE got in all of this.. No where did I mention IDE. I was just curious about my SCSI controller. Couldn't resist the comment ;-) TIA -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was null and void ------------------------------------------------------------------- I can only please one person per day. Today is not YOUR day. Tomorrow doesn't look too good either. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 27 13:19:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from control.colossus.dynip.com (pm9-39.sba1.avtel.net [207.71.222.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0EA214E49; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:19:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dburr@control.colossus.dynip.com) Received: (from dburr@localhost) by control.colossus.dynip.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA28374; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:19:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dburr) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 13:19:17 -0700 (PDT) Organization: Computer Help From: Donald Burr To: FreeBSD Hardware , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Is HP 7200i (Internal) ATAPI or SCSI? Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm looking at purchasing a CD-R/RW drive for my roommate's system, and the HP 7200i looks quite attractive, price-wise. But I can't find any information on whether it is an IDE or a SCSI device? If anyone knows, please e-mail me. Thanks! --- Donald Burr | PGP: Your *NEW* WWW HomePage: http://more.at/dburr/ ICQ #16997506 | right to Address: P.O. Box 91212, Santa Barbara, CA 93190-1212 | 'Net privacy. Phone: (805) 957-9666 FAX: (800) 492-5954 | USE IT. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 27 13:34:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from revolution.3-cities.com (revolution.3-cities.com [204.203.224.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA25614E7E; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:33:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn1168.bossig.com [208.26.241.168]) by revolution.3-cities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06668; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:33:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <374DAC45.C95FBA17@3-cities.com> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 13:34:13 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: BOSSig X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Donald Burr Cc: FreeBSD Hardware , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Is HP 7200i (Internal) ATAPI or SCSI? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Donald Burr wrote: > > I'm looking at purchasing a CD-R/RW drive for my roommate's system, and > the HP 7200i looks quite attractive, price-wise. But I can't find any > information on whether it is an IDE or a SCSI device? If anyone knows, > please e-mail me. Thanks! I have an 8100i and when I was checking on them, they were all IDE/ATAPI. When you visit http://www.hp.com/storage/, you don't have a clue until you select the install information tab on a product and then you see that they run off of your IDE controller. Kent > --- > Donald Burr | PGP: Your > *NEW* WWW HomePage: http://more.at/dburr/ ICQ #16997506 | right to > Address: P.O. Box 91212, Santa Barbara, CA 93190-1212 | 'Net privacy. > Phone: (805) 957-9666 FAX: (800) 492-5954 | USE IT. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ Home http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 27 13:40:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from cserv.oksys.bg (ipp-8-028-sofia.ttm.bg [195.230.8.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54A9614E7E; Thu, 27 May 1999 13:40:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ian@bulinfo.net) Received: from bulinfo.net (ian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cserv.oksys.bg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA54636; Thu, 27 May 1999 23:40:09 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ian@bulinfo.net) Message-ID: <374DADA8.AF1240A6@bulinfo.net> Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 23:40:08 +0300 From: Iani Brankov Organization: ok systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Donald Burr Cc: FreeBSD Hardware , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Is HP 7200i (Internal) ATAPI or SCSI? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Donald Burr wrote: > > I'm looking at purchasing a CD-R/RW drive for my roommate's system, and > the HP 7200i looks quite attractive, price-wise. But I can't find any > information on whether it is an IDE or a SCSI device? If anyone knows, > please e-mail me. Thanks! > --- > Donald Burr | PGP: Your > *NEW* WWW HomePage: http://more.at/dburr/ ICQ #16997506 | right to > Address: P.O. Box 91212, Santa Barbara, CA 93190-1212 | 'Net privacy. > Phone: (805) 957-9666 FAX: (800) 492-5954 | USE IT. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message http://www.hpcdwriter.com/products/8200i/specifications.htm --iani To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 27 15:42:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.Sun.COM (mercury.Sun.COM [192.9.25.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 438DA14CA3 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:42:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maddox@p-1.eng.sun.com) Received: from engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM ([129.146.1.13]) by mercury.Sun.COM (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03190; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from p-1.eng.sun.com (p-1.Eng.Sun.COM [129.144.125.250]) by engmail1.Eng.Sun.COM (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/ENSMAIL,v1.6) with ESMTP id PAA03518; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:42:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (maddox@localhost) by p-1.eng.sun.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA07459; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:41:38 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:41:38 -0700 (PDT) From: William Maddox X-Sender: maddox@p-1 Reply-To: William Maddox To: "Justin T. Gibbs" Cc: "Gregory P. Smith" , hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Support for Symbios vs. Adaptect SCSI In-Reply-To: <199905271517.JAA04842@narnia.plutotech.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 27 May 1999, Justin T. Gibbs wrote: > In general, the PCI interface on the Adaptec chips is unsurpassed > in the industry. ... This is very helpful information. It does make it clear that Adaptec makes sense at the high end. You get what you pay for, etc... > Now for typical workstation and server workloads where you don't > have a fully populated PCI bus (Pluto boards can have up to 10 > devices per PCI bus), the Symbios parts should be able to provide > performance comensurate with those provided by Adaptec. This is where I am. Small boxes where I use SCSI more for the flexibility than the raw performance. Reliability always matters, however. > them. My plan is to write an assembler for the Symbios scripts > engine so that the firmware is easier to read, modify, and understand. > At that point, I would expect the Symbios parts to be as well > supported under FreeBSD as the Adaptec parts. I don't expect to > get around to this until late this summer. I don't know beans about writing device drivers, but I am a compiler hacker by trade. I'd be interested in working on an assembler if that would speed things along a bit. A final query: Mike Tansca reported to me privately that he has had very good results with Symbios controllers under 2.2.x, but has had problems with 3.x. This does not seem particularly surprising given the transition to the CAM-based SCSI subsystem. Does this seem reasonable to you, or are the Symbios drivers really just as bad in 2.2.x? Thanks, Bill Maddox To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 27 16:10:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from xena.cs.waikato.ac.nz (xena.cs.waikato.ac.nz [130.217.241.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77F6F15A58 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 16:10:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joerg@lucy.cs.waikato.ac.nz) Received: from lucy.cs.waikato.ac.nz (joerg@lucy.cs.waikato.ac.nz [130.217.241.12]) by xena.cs.waikato.ac.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA09365; Fri, 28 May 1999 11:10:49 +1200 (NZST) Received: (from joerg@localhost) by lucy.cs.waikato.ac.nz (8.9.3/8.9.0) id LAA22553; Fri, 28 May 1999 11:10:47 +1200 (NZST) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 11:10:46 +1200 From: Joerg Micheel To: Michal Przybylski Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: atm problems Message-ID: <19990528111046.B22096@cs.waikato.ac.nz> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In-Reply-To: ; from Michal Przybylski on Thu, May 27, 1999 at 04:38:37PM +0200 Organization: SCMS, The University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand Project: WAND - Waikato Applied Network Dynamics, DAG Operating-System: ... drained by Solaris 7 SPARC Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michal, On Thu, May 27, 1999 at 04:38:37PM +0200, Michal Przybylski wrote: > "microcode not loaded" > I've found that i need to use /sbin/fore_dnld program to load that > microcode, but where can i find that microcode? I've found some files with > 'bin' extension, but none works. Fore_dnld seems to hang up. It's a documented problem, please have a look at /usr/share/examples/atm/fore-microcode.txt In short, you'll need to get the ForeThought 4.0 microcode for that adaptor. If you have bought the adaptor recently, there might be a problem. Otherwise, have a look for an older distribution and extract the pca200e.bin from there. Does anyone know if FORE has officially released the firmware for download ? That would ease things quite a bit. Joerg -- Joerg B. Micheel Email: Waikato Applied Network Dynamics Phone: +64 7 8384794 The University of Waikato, SCMS Fax: +64 7 8384155 Private Bag 3105 Pager: +64 868 38222 Hamilton, New Zealand Plan: TINE and the DAG's To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 27 17:11:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from moe.nycrc.net (gabriel.nycrc.net [209.73.202.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 873E414FA9 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 17:11:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vince@moe.nycrc.net) Received: (qmail 3708 invoked by uid 1000); 28 May 1999 00:12:04 -0000 Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 20:12:04 -0400 From: Vince Gonzalez To: Zane Westover Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AMD k6-2 400 Message-ID: <19990527201204.E3623@moe.nycrc.net> References: <19990527003218.21027.qmail@www0t.netaddress.usa.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <19990527003218.21027.qmail@www0t.netaddress.usa.net>; from Zane Westover on Wed, May 26, 1999 at 05:32:18PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 05:32:18PM -0700, Zane Westover wrote: > Hello, > I am searching for the ultimate motherboard for a small server I am > building. I have been given an AMD K6-2 400 MHz to work with so I need a > Socket 7 board. I am also interested in on-board video and sound (if anyone > knows of any) and I am also researching overclocking. Could you please resond > with a few ideas of motherboards? If anyone has an AWESOME setup, or knows of > one, I could be willing to purchase another processor. > Thanks. > Zane Do yourself a favor, and don't even think about overclocking a server. I'd tend to stay avay from integrated anything too... -- vince@nycrc.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 27 17:49:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from george.lbl.gov (george.lbl.gov [131.243.2.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B28A914F26 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 17:49:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jin@george.lbl.gov) Received: (from jin@localhost) by george.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.2) id RAA06623; Thu, 27 May 1999 17:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 17:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905280049.RAA06623@george.lbl.gov> From: jin@george.lbl.gov To: vince@nycrc.net, zanewestover@usa.net Subject: Re: AMD k6-2 400 Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, May 26, 1999 at 05:32:18PM -0700, Zane Westover wrote: > Hello, > I am searching for the ultimate motherboard for a small server I am > building. I have been given an AMD K6-2 400 MHz to work with so I need a > Socket 7 board. I am also interested in on-board video and sound (if anyone > knows of any) and I am also researching overclocking. Could you please resond > with a few ideas of motherboards? If anyone has an AWESOME setup, or knows of > one, I could be willing to purchase another processor. > Thanks. > Zane K6 II/III family is not able to overclock much, but Celeron does. You may look at web site: www-didc.lbl.gov/~jin/performance.pen.ps Page 9-10 for some details. Be carefully the data in the parentheses to ensure that over overclocking could cause your system problem. We do overclock our cluster 1TB servers, and have not seen any problem. The most amazing thing in FreeBSD is the "make buildworld". It is a great stablility testing tool for testing reliability for CPU/memory system. If your system can pass "cd /usr/src; make buildworld", this system is almost quanranteed the CPU and memory sub-system to work. I haven't seen any failure after a system passed buildworld. If you do not require high quality video and sound, you may choice the on-board option, but it may not be a wise choice for a server. All the new motherboard has a AGP slot, and the AGP video adapter can be priced from $25 to $2500. Therefore, it is not really beautiful thing to have on-board video, and in many cases that servers needs no video card. -Jin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 27 18:19:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from pegasus.com (unknown [209.84.70.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DD7114C1C for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 18:19:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from richard@pegasus.com) Received: by pegasus.com (8.6.8/PEGASUS-2.2) id PAA24186; Thu, 27 May 1999 15:18:54 -1001 Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 15:18:54 -1001 From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) Message-Id: <199905280119.PAA24186@pegasus.com> In-Reply-To: William Maddox "Re: Support for Symbios vs. Adaptect SCSI" (May 27, 3:41pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Support for Symbios vs. Adaptect SCSI Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org } > In general, the PCI interface on the Adaptec chips is unsurpassed } > in the industry. } ... } } This is very helpful information. It does make it clear that Adaptec } makes sense at the high end. You get what you pay for, etc... I've seen test reports in the past that place the Symbios controllers at a slight speed *advantage* over Adaptec. (Sorry no references, too long ago.) Yes, the drivers could easily be the controlling factor. By most reports the Symbios controllers are very good, and not nearly as absurdly priced as Adaptec. Symbios chips can be found embeded in everything from workstations and pc's to large RAID units. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 27 18:25:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from picnic.mat.net (picnic.mat.net [206.246.122.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37F1915393 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 18:25:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chuckr@picnic.mat.net) Received: from localhost (chuckr@localhost) by picnic.mat.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA29346; Thu, 27 May 1999 21:25:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 21:25:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Robey To: Richard Foulk Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Support for Symbios vs. Adaptect SCSI In-Reply-To: <199905280119.PAA24186@pegasus.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 27 May 1999, Richard Foulk wrote: > } > In general, the PCI interface on the Adaptec chips is unsurpassed > } > in the industry. > } ... > } > } This is very helpful information. It does make it clear that Adaptec > } makes sense at the high end. You get what you pay for, etc... > > I've seen test reports in the past that place the Symbios controllers > at a slight speed *advantage* over Adaptec. (Sorry no references, too > long ago.) > > Yes, the drivers could easily be the controlling factor. > > By most reports the Symbios controllers are very good, and not > nearly as absurdly priced as Adaptec. > > Symbios chips can be found embeded in everything from workstations > and pc's to large RAID units. Trouble is, your report has no specifics as to what is faster or better, and even you don't recall where it's from, so it's of nearly no more use than rumors. I'm not trying to be offensive, but (unless you have some reason to assign more importance to your statement, that you haven't passed on to us), this kind of stuff is misleading to folks. Those "test reports" could very easily have come from biased benchmarking, something we're all familiar with. The fact that NCR chips show up in many interfaces, well, they ARE cheaper, aren't they? You have to have at least some kind of detail in reports such as yours, to make the data believeable. ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- Chuck Robey | Interests include any kind of voice or data chuckr@picnic.mat.net | communications topic, C programming, and Unix. 213 Lakeside Drive Apt T-1 | Greenbelt, MD 20770 | I run picnic (FreeBSD-current) (301) 220-2114 | and jaunt (Solaris7). ----------------------------+----------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 27 19:15:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from george.lbl.gov (george.lbl.gov [131.243.2.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 384A715185 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 19:15:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jin@george.lbl.gov) Received: (from jin@localhost) by george.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA07899; Thu, 27 May 1999 19:15:28 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 19:15:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905280215.TAA07899@george.lbl.gov> From: jin@george.lbl.gov To: chuckr@picnic.mat.net, richard@pegasus.com Subject: Re: Support for Symbios vs. Adaptect SCSI Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 27 May 1999, Chuck Robey wrote: > > } > In general, the PCI interface on the Adaptec chips is unsurpassed > > } > in the industry. > > } ... > > } > > } This is very helpful information. It does make it clear that Adaptec > > } makes sense at the high end. You get what you pay for, etc... > > > > I've seen test reports in the past that place the Symbios controllers > > at a slight speed *advantage* over Adaptec. (Sorry no references, too > > long ago.) > > > > Yes, the drivers could easily be the controlling factor. > > > > By most reports the Symbios controllers are very good, and not > > nearly as absurdly priced as Adaptec. > > > > Symbios chips can be found embeded in everything from workstations > > and pc's to large RAID units. > > Trouble is, your report has no specifics as to what is faster or better, > and even you don't recall where it's from, so it's of nearly no more use > than rumors. I'm not trying to be offensive, but (unless you have some > reason to assign more importance to your statement, that you haven't > passed on to us), this kind of stuff is misleading to folks. > > Those "test reports" could very easily have come from biased > benchmarking, something we're all familiar with. The fact that NCR > chips show up in many interfaces, well, they ARE cheaper, aren't they? > You have to have at least some kind of detail in reports such as yours, > to make the data believeable. The SCSI benchmark is very depended on the controller and drive combination. SCSI hard drive 1 may have #A throuthput on Adaptec controller, and #B throuthput on Symbios controller, but the SCSI drive 2 could have #B throuthput on Adaptec controller, and #A throuthput on Symbios controller. Unless someone tested a bounch of drive under both Adaptec and Symbios SCSi controllers, your never can tell the truth. One reason is that the disk dirve manufactories can make very different arbitrition timing as we found. Even you chained different SCSI drive on the same controller, you may end up having a serious trouble to make high SCSI bus utilization. Adaptec SCSI controller was very sensitive to the terminator and cable length a few years ago, so we stopped using it. We used Symbios instead. Since I have no curent Adaptec SCSI controller, I cannot tell how good it is. I only can tell we are happy with Symbios chips. We can get bits going almost saturating the SCSI bus at 85-92% utilization. I am very eager to hear if someone can tell us how Adaptec controller can do, so we may get one for benchmarking. So, at this point, unless you have done some intensive-combined SCSI benchmark, no one shall tell who is better. If you can get SCSI bus saturated, you are there. Another thing is the price/throughput ratio. In a low performance chain, you could chain up to 15 disks on a SCSI-3 controller. The bus is always saturated when all disks try to talk. The best throughput is 40MB. In a high performance chain, two high speed SCSI-3 drives can almost saturate a SCSI-3 UW controller. Now you need at least 7 controllers or 15 dsks; then the price is the big issue. The 2% differnt performence between different SCSI controllers can be ignored. In talking 1TB disk sub-system, I would not worry about the 2% or even 5% (could be seen at most) differnce of throughput for different SCSI controller. The price is more important. Just a coule of cents. -Jin at this point. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu May 27 20:15:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from daedal.oneway.com (daedal.oneway.com [205.252.89.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1DCB14FD4 for ; Thu, 27 May 1999 20:15:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jay@oneway.com) Received: from localhost (jay@localhost) by daedal.oneway.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA11513; Thu, 27 May 1999 23:13:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jay@oneway.com) Date: Thu, 27 May 1999 23:13:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Jay Kuri To: jin@george.lbl.gov Cc: chuckr@picnic.mat.net, richard@pegasus.com, hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Support for Symbios vs. Adaptect SCSI In-Reply-To: <199905280215.TAA07899@george.lbl.gov> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I realize this is a technical merit discussion... but wanted to put my $0.02 in... I've been building servers using both adaptec and symbios cards for quite some time. About 2 years ago I stopped using adaptec cards in favor of the symbios-based cards. For the most part, up to that point I was a die-hard 'nothing but adaptec in my machines' guy. What started it all was that I started having difficulties with adaptec cards flaking out. They would just spontaneously not working... causing scsi errors... etc. Mostly on the 100Mhz motherboards. So I reluctantly decided to try the symbios cards. They worked 100% fine in all of my problem systems. I noticed no performance impact in those machines at all. Since then, I've been using symbios cards on almost all of my servers. Admittedly I have not run benchmarks on the different systems that I have running, but I can't tell any difference between my adaptec-systems' and my symbios systems' performance. I've got a large raid-array hanging off of a symbios differential-scsi card and have no complaints. The performance difference (that I can't see) with the adaptec cards is not worth 3+ times the price of the symbios cards. For me, when scsi-performance starts becoming a bottleneck, I find I'm usually switching to a DPT SmartRAID/CACHE controller anyway. My $0.02, Jay > > Trouble is, your report has no specifics as to what is faster or better, > > and even you don't recall where it's from, so it's of nearly no more use > > than rumors. I'm not trying to be offensive, but (unless you have some > > reason to assign more importance to your statement, that you haven't > > passed on to us), this kind of stuff is misleading to folks. > > > > Those "test reports" could very easily have come from biased > > benchmarking, something we're all familiar with. The fact that NCR > > chips show up in many interfaces, well, they ARE cheaper, aren't they? > > You have to have at least some kind of detail in reports such as yours, > > to make the data believeable. > > The SCSI benchmark is very depended on the controller and drive combination. > SCSI hard drive 1 may have #A throuthput on Adaptec controller, and #B > throuthput on Symbios controller, but the SCSI drive 2 could have #B > throuthput on Adaptec controller, and #A throuthput on Symbios controller. > > Unless someone tested a bounch of drive under both Adaptec and Symbios > SCSi controllers, your never can tell the truth. One reason is that the > disk dirve manufactories can make very different arbitrition timing as we > found. Even you chained different SCSI drive on the same controller, you > may end up having a serious trouble to make high SCSI bus utilization. > > Adaptec SCSI controller was very sensitive to the terminator and cable > length a few years ago, so we stopped using it. We used Symbios instead. > Since I have no curent Adaptec SCSI controller, I cannot tell how good it > is. I only can tell we are happy with Symbios chips. We can get bits going > almost saturating the SCSI bus at 85-92% utilization. I am very eager to hear > if someone can tell us how Adaptec controller can do, so we may get one for > benchmarking. > > So, at this point, unless you have done some intensive-combined SCSI > benchmark, no one shall tell who is better. If you can get SCSI bus > saturated, you are there. > > Another thing is the price/throughput ratio. In a low performance chain, > you could chain up to 15 disks on a SCSI-3 controller. The bus is always > saturated when all disks try to talk. The best throughput is 40MB. > In a high performance chain, two high speed SCSI-3 drives can almost > saturate a SCSI-3 UW controller. Now you need at least 7 controllers > or 15 dsks; then the price is the big issue. The 2% differnt performence > between different SCSI controllers can be ignored. > In talking 1TB disk sub-system, I would not worry about the 2% or even 5% > (could be seen at most) differnce of throughput for different SCSI controller. > The price is more important. > > Just a coule of cents. > > -Jin > > at this point. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 28 2:41: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.188.net (unknown [202.96.125.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4107415149 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 02:40:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jiang_jian@netease.com) Received: (fmail 5389 invoked from network); 29 May 1999 01:40:02 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO spirit) (202.96.190.124) by 202.96.125.104 with SMTP; 29 May 1999 01:40:02 -0000 Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 17:44:52 +0800 From: jj Reply-To: jiang_jian@netease.com To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: how to set my "S3 soundsonic" card in 3.0-R? Organization: gdcc X-mailer: FoxMail 2.1 [cn] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990528094057.4107415149@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is S3soundcard same as AWE64 or else pnp sound card? My s3 soundsonic card can automatically be detected in linux(Mandrake,Xteam). Is there some tools that can detect soundcard in FreeBSD like Linux? Thank you! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 28 4:21:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from gate2.consol.de (gate2.consol.de [194.221.87.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B2DF15124 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 04:21:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Michael.Elbel@consol.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: Michael.Elbel@consol.de (at relayer gate2.consol.de) Received: from msgsrv.bb.consol.de (root@msgsrv.bb.consol.de [10.250.0.100]) by gate2.consol.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA18331 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 13:21:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from fourier.int.consol.de (fourier.int.consol.de [10.0.1.17]) by msgsrv.bb.consol.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA08621 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 13:21:08 +0200 Received: (from me@localhost) by fourier.int.consol.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) id NAA75313 for hardware@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 May 1999 13:21:07 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from me) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 13:21:07 +0200 From: Michael Elbel To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Support for Symbios vs. Adaptect SCSI Message-ID: <19990528132105.C70791@consol.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In lists.freebsd.hardware you write: >You recently made the following remark on freebsd-hardware: >> The Adaptec chips are generally better supported in >> FreeBSD and I wouldn't consider anything else for systems that I build. [...] >Do you mean: > 1) Has fewer bugs? > 2) Makes better use of the hardware capabilities? > 3) Has a maintainer who is willing/able to devote > more time to the task? >Are there specific deficiencies in the drivers for the Symbios cards >that cause you to recommend against them? In that vein a question: Has anybody managed to use either a DDS Drive (I have tried Sony and HP) and/or a CD changer (I tried a NAKAMICH MJ-5.16S) with *any* Adaptec PCI controller without having to disable disconnect/reconnect in the adapter setup for those targets? I've tried to no avail, the system didn't even get up to the boot prompt in most of the cases/combinations I've tried so far which leads me to guess at problems with the Adaptecs themselves rather than the FreeBSD drivers. Disabling disconnect/reconnect stops the hangs but then one has a blocked SCSI bus while one of those devices does any operation. This can get quite annoying if e.g. a CD gets changed, causing a 5 second block on all disk activity :-( On the other hand, each and every NCR/Symbios controller I've used supported all devices with disconnect/reconnect enabled just fine. These days I hang the disks on Adaptecs and put slow devices on a separate Symbios if I get the chance. Michael -- \|/ -O- Michael Elbel, ConSol* GmbH, - me@consol.de - 089 / 45841-256 /|\ Fermentation fault (coors dumped) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 28 4:41:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from ren.detir.qld.gov.au (ns.detir.qld.gov.au [203.46.81.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6834515B57 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 04:41:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from syssgm@detir.qld.gov.au) Received: by ren.detir.qld.gov.au; id VAA20371; Fri, 28 May 1999 21:37:46 +1000 (EST) Received: from ogre.detir.qld.gov.au(167.123.8.3) by ren.detir.qld.gov.au via smap (4.1) id xma020368; Fri, 28 May 99 21:37:21 +1000 Received: from atlas.detir.qld.gov.au (atlas.detir.qld.gov.au [167.123.8.9]) by ogre.detir.qld.gov.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA06313; Fri, 28 May 1999 21:37:20 +1000 (EST) Received: from nymph.detir.qld.gov.au (nymph.detir.qld.gov.au [167.123.10.10]) by atlas.detir.qld.gov.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA24891; Fri, 28 May 1999 21:37:20 +1000 (EST) Received: from nymph.detir.qld.gov.au (localhost.detir.qld.gov.au [127.0.0.1]) by nymph.detir.qld.gov.au (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA05201; Fri, 28 May 1999 21:37:19 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from syssgm@nymph.detir.qld.gov.au) Message-Id: <199905281137.VAA05201@nymph.detir.qld.gov.au> To: mike@smith.net.au Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net, syssgm@detir.qld.gov.au Subject: Re: NCR SCSI Controller References: <199905271815.LAA01152@dingo.cdrom.com> In-Reply-To: <199905271815.LAA01152@dingo.cdrom.com> from Mike Smith at "Thu, 27 May 1999 11:15:26 -0700" Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 21:37:19 +1000 From: Stephen McKay Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thursday, 27th May 1999, Mike Smith wrote: >Unrelated, but due to the same basic stuffup; bogus (nonstandard) >hardware design in both cases. > >The NCR card has the LED connected somewhere weird, and likewise your >onboard IDE controller has done something funny with its LED. > >You're both SOL, sorry. Ignoring the IDE for the moment... (Who knows with IDE anyway?!) I don't think he is SOL. My Diamond FirePort 40 has the same problem and is cured by option SCSI_NCR_SYMBIOS_COMPAT. Stefan is just really, really worried about the possibility of some hardware going spastic and blowing up with this option on. But, I've seen this same discussion 4 times now, and NEVER has anybody said "My card's LED didn't work. I set SCSI_NCR_SYMBIOS_COMPAT. It still doesn't work." It works for me. It's worked for other people. As far as I know, it always works like this: 1) install FreeBSD 2) if LED works, stop here 3) compile with option SCSI_NCR_SYMBIOS_COMPAT I'd like to know of any NCR based card or board where this doesn't work. Hands up everybody who tried this and it failed! If we can't find any failures, I'd like to add this information to the hardware docs. Stephen. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 28 6:41:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C3414BE3 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 06:41:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id HAA25729; Fri, 28 May 1999 07:41:39 -0600 (MDT) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199905281341.HAA25729@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: Support for Symbios vs. Adaptect SCSI In-Reply-To: <19990528132105.C70791@consol.de> from Michael Elbel at "May 28, 1999 01:21:07 pm" To: Michael.Elbel@consol.de (Michael Elbel) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 07:41:39 -0600 (MDT) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael Elbel wrote... > In lists.freebsd.hardware you write: > > >You recently made the following remark on freebsd-hardware: > > >> The Adaptec chips are generally better supported in > >> FreeBSD and I wouldn't consider anything else for systems that I build. > > [...] > > >Do you mean: > > > 1) Has fewer bugs? > > 2) Makes better use of the hardware capabilities? > > 3) Has a maintainer who is willing/able to devote > > more time to the task? > > >Are there specific deficiencies in the drivers for the Symbios cards > >that cause you to recommend against them? > > In that vein a question: > > Has anybody managed to use either a DDS Drive (I have tried Sony and HP) > and/or a CD changer (I tried a NAKAMICH MJ-5.16S) with *any* Adaptec > PCI controller without having to disable disconnect/reconnect in the > adapter setup for those targets? > > I've tried to no avail, the system didn't even get up to the boot prompt in > most of the cases/combinations I've tried so far which leads me to guess at > problems with the Adaptecs themselves rather than the FreeBSD drivers. > > Disabling disconnect/reconnect stops the hangs but then one has a blocked > SCSI bus while one of those devices does any operation. This can get quite > annoying if e.g. a CD gets changed, causing a 5 second block on all > disk activity :-( I've used both Nakamichi CD changers and HP and Sony DAT drives on Adaptec controllers with no problems. In fact, I've got a SDT-5000 hooked up to an Adaptec now: ahc0: at slot 1 on eisa0 sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 5.000MB/s transfers (5.000MHz, offset 8) It works fine. I wrote the CAM CD changer code and the CAM hot swap code with a Nakamichi changer hooked up to an Adaptec controller. (Thanks Lars!) > On the other hand, each and every NCR/Symbios controller I've used supported > all devices with disconnect/reconnect enabled just fine. > > These days I hang the disks on Adaptecs and put slow devices on a separate > Symbios if I get the chance. If you try some of those devices again on an Adaptec controller and still have problems, I'd suggest talking to Justin about it. He may be able to figure out what the problem is. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 28 6:43:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from the.oneinsane.net (the.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DEBD14BE3 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 06:43:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net) Received: from lunatic.oneinsane.net (insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net [207.113.133.231]) by the.oneinsane.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id GAA15020 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 06:43:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from insane@localhost) by lunatic.oneinsane.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id GAA09782 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 May 1999 06:43:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from insane) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 06:43:08 -0700 From: "Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NCR SCSI Controller Message-ID: <19990528064308.B9059@lunatic.oneinsane.net> References: <199905271815.LAA01152@dingo.cdrom.com> <199905281137.VAA05201@nymph.detir.qld.gov.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <199905281137.VAA05201@nymph.detir.qld.gov.au>; from Stephen McKay on Fri, May 28, 1999 at 09:37:19PM +1000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD lunatic.oneinsane.net 3.2-RELEASE X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-Disclaimer: I am a firm believer in RTFM X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net X-PGP-KEY: http://www.oneinsane.net/~insane/insane-pgp5i.txt X-Uptime: 6:42AM up 8:27, 2 users, load averages: 0.04, 0.02, 0.00 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, May 28, 1999 at 09:37:19PM +1000, Stephen McKay wrote: > On Thursday, 27th May 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > >Unrelated, but due to the same basic stuffup; bogus (nonstandard) > >hardware design in both cases. > > > >The NCR card has the LED connected somewhere weird, and likewise your > >onboard IDE controller has done something funny with its LED. > > > >You're both SOL, sorry. > > Ignoring the IDE for the moment... (Who knows with IDE anyway?!) > > I don't think he is SOL. My Diamond FirePort 40 has the same problem and > is cured by option SCSI_NCR_SYMBIOS_COMPAT. Stefan is just really, really > worried about the possibility of some hardware going spastic and blowing > up with this option on. > > But, I've seen this same discussion 4 times now, and NEVER has anybody said > "My card's LED didn't work. I set SCSI_NCR_SYMBIOS_COMPAT. It still doesn't > work." It works for me. It's worked for other people. As far as I know, > it always works like this: > > 1) install FreeBSD > 2) if LED works, stop here > 3) compile with option SCSI_NCR_SYMBIOS_COMPAT > Kust for the record. This did the trick for me.. I now have LED activity when the disk is accessing. TIA -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was null and void ------------------------------------------------------------------- Practice random acts of intelligence and senseless acts of self-control. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 28 9:18:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3B7615434 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:18:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00754; Fri, 28 May 1999 09:15:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905281615.JAA00754@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Stephen McKay Cc: mike@smith.net.au, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net Subject: Re: NCR SCSI Controller In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 28 May 1999 21:37:19 +1000." <199905281137.VAA05201@nymph.detir.qld.gov.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 09:15:46 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Thursday, 27th May 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > >Unrelated, but due to the same basic stuffup; bogus (nonstandard) > >hardware design in both cases. > > > >The NCR card has the LED connected somewhere weird, and likewise your > >onboard IDE controller has done something funny with its LED. > > > >You're both SOL, sorry. > > Ignoring the IDE for the moment... (Who knows with IDE anyway?!) > > I don't think he is SOL. My Diamond FirePort 40 has the same problem and > is cured by option SCSI_NCR_SYMBIOS_COMPAT. Stefan is just really, really > worried about the possibility of some hardware going spastic and blowing > up with this option on. > > But, I've seen this same discussion 4 times now, and NEVER has anybody said > "My card's LED didn't work. I set SCSI_NCR_SYMBIOS_COMPAT. It still doesn't > work." It works for me. It's worked for other people. As far as I know, > it always works like this: Bah, I forgot that option. I have one here where that doesn't work either. 8) -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 28 11:13:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from narnia.plutotech.com (narnia.plutotech.com [206.168.67.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F34151E1 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 11:13:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@narnia.plutotech.com) Received: (from gibbs@localhost) by narnia.plutotech.com (8.9.1/8.7.3) id MAA07001; Fri, 28 May 1999 12:03:00 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 12:03:00 -0600 (MDT) From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Message-Id: <199905281803.MAA07001@narnia.plutotech.com> To: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Support for Symbios vs. Adaptect SCSI X-Newsgroups: pluto.freebsd.hardware In-Reply-To: <199905280119.PAA24186@pegasus.com> User-Agent: tin/pre-1.4-980818 ("Laura") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.0-CURRENT (i386)) Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <199905280119.PAA24186@pegasus.com> you wrote: > } > In general, the PCI interface on the Adaptec chips is unsurpassed > } > in the industry. > } ... > } > } This is very helpful information. It does make it clear that Adaptec > } makes sense at the high end. You get what you pay for, etc... > > I've seen test reports in the past that place the Symbios controllers > at a slight speed *advantage* over Adaptec. (Sorry no references, too > long ago.) The FreeBSD Adaptec driver is known to vastly out perform the Adaptec NT driver. This is mostly because adaptec uses a fairly complex abstraction layer for the hardware that all OS drivers are written to. -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 28 13:23:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from cs.CS.NMSU.Edu (cs.CS.NMSU.Edu [128.123.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94AE815107 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 13:23:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fzhang@cs.CS.NMSU.Edu) Received: from moretti (moretti [128.123.64.146]) by cs.CS.NMSU.Edu (8.8.6/8.8.6) with SMTP id OAA02505 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 14:23:31 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199905282023.OAA02505@cs.CS.NMSU.Edu> Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 14:24:00 -0600 (MDT) From: Fusie Zhang Reply-To: Fusie Zhang Subject: pci card detection To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-MD5: cWwBjbWBMX1h53SpMspFBw== X-Mailer: dtmail 1.3.0 @(#)CDE Version 1.3.2 SunOS 5.7 sun4u sparc Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i know i have asked this question before. but never got a clear answer. is a PCI card always detected (shown with the dmesg output or at boot-up) no matter if it is supported? i have an Ensoniq PCI sound card. it does not show at boot up at all. is this normal? or it suggests some installation problem? it works fine with Windoze though. some one pls answer this. i've spent hours on this problem. i am new to FreeBSD. pls help. Fujie Zhang 2217 Hagarty Road #12, Las Cruces, NM 88001. (505)532-8307 131 Science Hall, NMSU, Las Cruces, NM 88003. 646-6229 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri May 28 14:27:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from sss80205.schwab.com (sss00205.schwab.com [162.93.15.188]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78FD014DB7 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 14:27:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Andreas.Pleschutznig@Schwab.COM) Received: by othbh/sss80205.schwab.com v1.000dar for qnum RAA29919 Received-Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 17:23:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: from s0001asf.schwab.com(162.93.32.201) by sss80205.schwab.com via smap (V4.2) id xma029902; Fri, 28 May 99 17:22:51 -0400 Received: (from root@localhost) by ihop sf id RAA13722 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 May 1999 17:26:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: ( Schwab Email ) by copymail sf with ESMTP id RAA13677 for ; Fri, 28 May 1999 17:26:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: by n2101pmx.cdc.schwab.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Fri, 28 May 1999 17:23:04 -0400 Message-ID: <11585F032846CF11867900805FE2A57706D6164D@N1002SMX.nt.schwab.com> From: "Pleschutznig, Andreas" To: "'freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org'" Subject: Travan Tape Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 17:23:06 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi everybody, I just inherited a box which has a Travan(HP) Floppy Streamer included. Now I wonder if the is support for this tape available, or should I make use of somewhere else? I'm not too concerned about speed, since this box doesn't do anything special. Is there any chance to get this running? Thanks -- Andreas Pleschutznig Sr. Unix System Admin E-mail: Andreas.Pleschutznig@Schwab.com Phone: (415) 636 0493 Cell: (415) 850 7996 Brick: 260 Pager: http://www.nextel.com/paging/indivpage.html Warning: All e-mail sent to this address will be received by the Charles Schwab & Co., Inc. corporate e-mail system and is subject to archival and review by someone other than the recipient. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat May 29 17:13:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285BD14E18 for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 17:13:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from localhost (406 bytes) by rip.psg.com via sendmail with P:stdio/R:inet_resolve/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sat, 29 May 1999 17:13:49 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #1 built 1999-Apr-1) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 29 May 1999 17:13:49 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: usb mouse for vaio Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org any recommendations for a small usb mouse for a sony vaio laptop? three button preferred. but size may be more important than the third button. randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun May 30 3: 3:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mrelay.jrc.it (mrelay.jrc.it [139.191.1.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01B7B14DAF for ; Sun, 30 May 1999 03:03:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick.hibma@jrc.it) Received: from elpc36.jrc.it (elpc36.jrc.it [139.191.71.36]) by mrelay.jrc.it (LMC5692) with SMTP id MAA15402; Sun, 30 May 1999 12:03:43 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sun, 30 May 1999 12:02:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@elpc36.jrc.it Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: Randy Bush Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: usb mouse for vaio In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You might want to try the usb-bsd mailing list, available from www.egroups.com. Or http://www.etla.net/~n_hibma/usb/usb.pl Nick On Sat, 29 May 1999, Randy Bush wrote: > any recommendations for a small usb mouse for a sony vaio laptop? three > button preferred. but size may be more important than the third button. > > randy > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 31 1:55:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.wzptt.zj.cn (smtp.wzptt.zj.cn [202.96.106.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 427D914F1B for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 01:55:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yeyong@mail.wzptt.zj.cn) Received: from nt1 ([202.96.106.26]) by smtp.wzptt.zj.cn (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id QAA29903 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 16:54:12 +0800 (CST) Message-Id: <199905310854.QAA29903@smtp.wzptt.zj.cn> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 16:55:16 +0800 From: Ye Yong To: "freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org" Subject: HP LH3 server can't find hard disk,help! X-mailer: FoxMail 3.0 beta 1 [cn] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US_ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We have a HP LH3 netserver,it have a HP NetRAID of irq 9,below is the from the system.txt when I use HP navigtor CD. mass storage information NetRAID Adapters found 1 NetRAID Adapter 0 channel 0,target id 9 hp 9.1GB A 80-DC1B I use msdos boot floppy to boot the LH3 server,it can detect hard disk and I can use fdisk to make hard patritions,but under FreeBSD boot floppy, no hard disk can be found? any one can help me? thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 31 15:17:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from cheddar.netmonger.net (cheddar.netmonger.net [209.54.21.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7898814E45 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 15:17:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@cheddar.netmonger.net) Received: (from chris@localhost) by cheddar.netmonger.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA19162; Mon, 31 May 1999 18:17:37 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990531181737.A18489@netmonger.net> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 18:17:37 -0400 From: Christopher Masto To: Randy Bush , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: usb mouse for vaio Mail-Followup-To: Randy Bush , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: ; from Randy Bush on Sat, May 29, 1999 at 05:13:49PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, May 29, 1999 at 05:13:49PM -0700, Randy Bush wrote: > any recommendations for a small usb mouse for a sony vaio laptop? three > button preferred. but size may be more important than the third button. I got a Belkin "ClassicMouse USB" at Micro Center for $14.99. It is not particularly smaller than a standard mouse, but it does have three buttons and works perfectly on my Vaio. There's a picture at http://www.masto.com/album/catidx.cgi?catid=18 -- Christopher Masto Senior Network Monkey NetMonger Communications chris@netmonger.net info@netmonger.net http://www.netmonger.net Free yourself, free your machine, free the daemon -- http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 31 15:24:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from cheddar.netmonger.net (cheddar.netmonger.net [209.54.21.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38DC01553A for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 15:24:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@cheddar.netmonger.net) Received: (from chris@localhost) by cheddar.netmonger.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA19466; Mon, 31 May 1999 18:24:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990531182450.B18489@netmonger.net> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 18:24:50 -0400 From: Christopher Masto To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: OnStream progress? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Have there been any developments on obtaining OnStream's tape drive docs? They have been completely ignoring my e-mail for months, but every once in a while someone here says they're in contact with them. I'd like to know whether OnStream is being helpful or not, as I'm beginning to become concerned that they have no intention whatsoever of releasing their specs. I have one of these drives and I'd like to either make it work or replace it. -- Christopher Masto Senior Network Monkey NetMonger Communications chris@netmonger.net info@netmonger.net http://www.netmonger.net Free yourself, free your machine, free the daemon -- http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 31 15:44:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 238B415551 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 15:44:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id QAA07170; Mon, 31 May 1999 16:44:06 -0600 (MDT) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199905312244.QAA07170@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: OnStream progress? In-Reply-To: <19990531182450.B18489@netmonger.net> from Christopher Masto at "May 31, 1999 06:24:50 pm" To: chris@netmonger.net (Christopher Masto) Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 16:44:06 -0600 (MDT) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Christopher Masto wrote... > Have there been any developments on obtaining OnStream's tape drive > docs? They have been completely ignoring my e-mail for months, but > every once in a while someone here says they're in contact with them. > I'd like to know whether OnStream is being helpful or not, as I'm > beginning to become concerned that they have no intention whatsoever > of releasing their specs. > > I have one of these drives and I'd like to either make it work or > replace it. You should read the -scsi list. Matt Jacob got documentation from OnStream and posted a summary of what it will take to support the drives on Thursday. You can probably find it in the list archive. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 31 15:51:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from cheddar.netmonger.net (cheddar.netmonger.net [209.54.21.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63FF115551 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 15:51:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@cheddar.netmonger.net) Received: (from chris@localhost) by cheddar.netmonger.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA20450; Mon, 31 May 1999 18:51:14 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990531185114.B19515@netmonger.net> Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 18:51:14 -0400 From: Christopher Masto To: "Kenneth D. Merry" Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OnStream progress? References: <19990531182450.B18489@netmonger.net> <199905312244.QAA07170@panzer.plutotech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i In-Reply-To: <199905312244.QAA07170@panzer.plutotech.com>; from Kenneth D. Merry on Mon, May 31, 1999 at 04:44:06PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 31, 1999 at 04:44:06PM -0600, Kenneth D. Merry wrote: > You should read the -scsi list. Matt Jacob got documentation from OnStream > and posted a summary of what it will take to support the drives on > Thursday. > > You can probably find it in the list archive. Thanks. That was pretty stupid of me. -- Christopher Masto Senior Network Monkey NetMonger Communications chris@netmonger.net info@netmonger.net http://www.netmonger.net Free yourself, free your machine, free the daemon -- http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon May 31 15:54:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28B5E15551 for ; Mon, 31 May 1999 15:54:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA00367; Mon, 31 May 1999 15:51:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905312251.PAA00367@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Christopher Masto Cc: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OnStream progress? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 31 May 1999 18:24:50 EDT." <19990531182450.B18489@netmonger.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 31 May 1999 15:51:35 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Have there been any developments on obtaining OnStream's tape drive > docs? They have been completely ignoring my e-mail for months, but > every once in a while someone here says they're in contact with them. > I'd like to know whether OnStream is being helpful or not, as I'm > beginning to become concerned that they have no intention whatsoever > of releasing their specs. > > I have one of these drives and I'd like to either make it work or > replace it. Check the freebsd-scsi archives for updates on these units. You're best off using the interface at egroups for this. In short; documentation exists, you're probably at least a month away from a functional driver. These units are _really_ screwy. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jun 1 9:18:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from lumsi.lugansk.ua (lumsi.lugansk.ua [62.244.34.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4961315084 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 09:14:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from soc.lg.gov.ua!uucp@soc.lg.gov.ua) Received: from soc.UUCP (uusoc@localhost) by lumsi.lugansk.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id TAA08134 for freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 19:11:39 +0300 X-Authentication-Warning: lumsi.lugansk.ua: uusoc set sender to soc!soc.lg.gov.ua!uucp using -f Received: by soc.lg.gov.ua (UUPC/@ v7.00, 07Jan97) id AA04177; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 19:05:40 -0200 (GMT) To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: Organization: Upravlenie Sotsialnoy Zashiti From: "root" Date: Tue, 1 Jun 1999 19:05:40 -0200 (GMT) X-Mailer: dMail [Demos Mail for DOS v2.04d] Subject: No access to cdrom MIME-Version: 1.0 Lines: 149 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have one problem. After mount /cdrom I get: mount:wcd0c:Invalid argument. However sometimes that attempt to mount cdrom is successfull. (2-3 times in week). Usually I mount cdrom throught /stand/sysinstall and find cd in /dist after login in another tty. But that way is not convenient. My machine configuration: 2 ide channels, on 1st: harddisk1 master harddisk2 slave on 2nd: harddisk3 master cdrom Acer 4x slave Somebody, please help. My kernel config file: machine "i386" cpu "I586_CPU" ident MYKERNEL maxusers 10 #--------------------- options IPX #options SC_HISTORY_SIZE 100 options NS #NetCon IPX/SPXII Protocol Stack options SPX_HACK options COMPAT_LINUX options USER_LDT #for WinE options "SC_MOUSE_CHAR=0x03" #--------------------- options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options NFS #Network Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options BOUNCE_BUFFERS #include support for DMA bounce buffers options SYSVSHM options SYSVSEM options SYSVMSG options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options FAILSAFE #Be conservative options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options QUOTA #options "EXT2FS" config kernel root on wd1 controller isa0 ##controller eisa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 # Unless you know very well what you're doing, leave ft0 at drive 2, or # remove the line entirely if you don't need it. Trying to configure # it on another unit might cause surprises, see PR kern/7176. ##options "CMD640" # work around CMD640 chip deficiency controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 vector wdintr disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus options ATAPI_STATIC device wcd0 #IDE CD-ROM #----------------------------------------- #options AUTO_EOI_1 #options AUTO_EOI_2 #----------------------------------------- # A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc, amd) is # sufficient for any number of installed devices. ##options DPT_MEASURE_PERFORMANCE # Required by DPT driver?? #options DPT_VERIFY_HINTR # Some hardware must have it! #options DPT_TRACK_CCB_STATES # Some hardware must have it! #options DPT_HANDLE_TIMEOUTS # Some hardware must have it! #options DPT_TIMEOUT_FACTOR=4 # Some hardware needs more # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector scintr # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver options XSERVER # support for X server #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std # Mandatory, don't remove device npx0 at isa? port "IO_NPX" flags 0x1 irq 13 vector npxintr # # Laptop support (see LINT for more options) # ##device apm0 at isa? disable # Advanced Power Management ##options APM_BROKEN_STATCLOCK # Workaround some buggy APM BIOS # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support #controller card0 #device pcic0 at card? #device pcic1 at card? controller snd0 device sb0 at isa? port 0x220 irq7 drq1 vector sbintr device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 vector siointr device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 vector siointr device psm0 at isa? port "IO_KBD" conflicts tty irq 12 vector psmintr # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. device de0 pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device log ##pseudo-device sl 1 ##pseudo-device ppp 1 pseudo-device vn 1 ##pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's # KTRACE enables the system-call tracing facility ktrace(2). # This adds 4 KB bloat to your kernel, and slightly increases # the costs of each syscall. ##options KTRACE #kernel tracing # This provides support for System V shared memory. # options SYSVSHM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jun 1 23:24:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from cheddar.netmonger.net (cheddar.netmonger.net [209.54.21.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A140015179 for ; Tue, 1 Jun 1999 23:24:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@cheddar.netmonger.net) Received: (from chris@localhost) by cheddar.netmonger.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA23933; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 02:24:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990602022453.A23670@netmonger.net> Date: Wed, 2 Jun 1999 02:24:53 -0400 From: Christopher Masto To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Ugly patches for PCMCIA flash ATA Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It's a pain to hook up the port replicator, serial cable, etc. every time I want to download some pictures from my camera, so I hacked the pccard support back into the -current wd driver. I know that Warner is working on the pccard newbus stuff; this was just an interim workaround. Anyway, I did it for me, but this subject comes up once in a while, so I thought I'd mention it here so it'll at least be in the archives if someone needs it. The actual patch is on http://www.netmonger.net/~chris/freebsd/ The README follows: This is an ugly hack to make my SanDisk PC card compact flash adapter work on current (as of 1-Jun-1999). It probably work with other ATA flash cards as well. The following things are done: 1. PCCARD interface added Minor adjustments for -current. I removed the static configuration thing since I didn't understand it. 2. Attempts to allow removal/reinsertion This is based on code that I believe came from Tatsumi Hosokawa at some point. I took out some of the TODOs because this whole thing is going away soon anyway. In my experimentation, if the flash card is unmounted before being ejected, it's perfectly safe. I have switched between a 3C509 and the SanDisk card several times with no ill effects. It appears to be Good Enough For Now. 3. Workaround for funky I/O ports This is the really ugly part. The wd driver makes assumptions that pretty much limit you to having two IDE controllers, at 0x1f0 and 0x170. While my VAIO only has one IDE controller onboard, and the SanDisk card is able to appear at 0x170, it didn't seem to work properly unless I booted with the card in. Perhaps the VAIO reserves that space for the optional CDROM. In any event, the SanDisk card has a configuration that allows it to be put at any location. The catch is that wd also assumes that the alternate status register is located 0x206 above the base port. In the case of the SanDisk's "anywhere" configuration, this is not true - the ports are all lumped together. So there's a little hack that uses a different offset if the base port is not 0x170 or 0x1f0. To use (assuming your hardware is identical to mine): Patch. Configure kernel. Add an extra wdc, disabled. Add a drive to it. > controller wdc1 at isa? disable port IO_WD2 irq 15 > disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 Configure pccard.conf. If you have the SanDisk card I have, it would go like this: > card "SunDisk" "SDP" > config 0x1 "wdc1" 15 > insert echo SunDisk Flash ATA Inserted > remove echo SunDisk Flash ATA Removed Note that the configuration is changed from the sample file's 3 to 1. config 3 has it at 0x170, which isn't happy on my laptop. That should do it. On my machine, when I pop the Compact Flash from my Kodak DC210 into the SanDisk adapter, and into the card slot, I see: > Card inserted, slot 0 > wdc1: unit 0 (wd2): > wd2: 7MB (15680 sectors), 245 cyls, 2 heads, 32 S/T, 512 B/S > wd2: ATA INQUIRE valid = 0001, dmamword = 0000, apio = 0000, udma = 0000 I can then mount -t msdos /dev/wd2s1 /flash and access the files. As I said, this works _for me_. My primary objective was to regain convenient use of my digital camera under -current while waiting for the pccard newbusification. I know this is ugly and wrong and incomplete, but it does what I need for now. I am putting it here in case it is of use to someone else. And thanks to SanDisk for putting extremely detailed documentation on their web site, and for making such a nifty adapter. -- Christopher Masto Senior Network Monkey NetMonger Communications chris@netmonger.net info@netmonger.net http://www.netmonger.net Free yourself, free your machine, free the daemon -- http://www.freebsd.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 2 10: 5:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc2.occa.home.com (ha1.rdc2.occa.home.com [24.2.8.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 702F9152F0 for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:05:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wjeff@pacbell.net) Received: from pacbell.net ([24.5.178.96]) by mail.rdc2.occa.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <19990602170524.HECE22117.mail.rdc2.occa.home.com@pacbell.net> for ; Wed, 2 Jun 1999 10:05:24 -0700 Message-ID: <375563CB.29E316A9@pacbell.net> Date: Wed, 02 Jun 1999 10:03:08 -0700 From: Jeffrey L Williams Reply-To: wjeff@pacbell.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: IDE Controller not detected Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have just tried building a custom kernel for my new FreeBSD v3.2 box. I am having trouble getting it to recognize my IDE controller. I am using a AIR 54TPI motherboard with on SCSI AIC-7880 and built in PCI EIDE controller. My hard drive is SCSI and uses the ahc0 controller and works fine, however I have an IDE CDROM, and so I need to use the IDE controller. In my kernel config file I had the following entries pertaining to the IDE settings: #options "CMD640" # work around CMD640 chip deficiency controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 #disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 #disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 #controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 #disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 #disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus options ATAPI_STATIC #Don't do it as an LKM device acd0 #IDE CD-ROM With this setting during boot I get the message "wdc0 not found at 0x1f0", and it does not even look for acd0. If I boot with the GENERIC kernel and use -cv to get to the visual kernel config and disable both IDE controller listings under Storage (there is another IDE controller listing under PCI) then during the boot it appears to recognize a device called: 'ide_pci0: rev 0x00 on pci0.7.1'. after seeing this I went back to my custom kernel config file and per the LINT file I tried changing the 'wdc' line to the following: controller wdc at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 flags 0x2000 This resulted in the same message "wdc0 not found at 0x1f0". If anyone can help me with this I would greatly appreciate it. also does anyone know where I can find more detailed explanation of the functioning of the loader.conf and kernel.conf files than exists in the man pages. Thanks Jeff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jun 3 7:50:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from j51.com (j51.com [209.94.121.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B070C153D1 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 07:50:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from danielm@j51.com) Received: (from danielm@localhost) by j51.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id KAA05250 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:49:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Malament Message-Id: <199906031449.KAA05250@j51.com> Subject: drive mirroring To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:49:05 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is probably the wrong place to ask this, but since there have been a bunch of discussions of RAID, I thought I'd give it a shot... No flames please, but pointers would be appreciated. We're running FreeBSD 2.2.8 on a system with two 13 gig IDE drives, and we'd like to have them mirror each other. I can do 'tar -cvpf - -C / / | tar xpf -C /bak' every night (the second drive is mounted on /bak and has identical partitions), but that won't remove files that have been deleted from the main drive. Am I right in assuming that there's already a simple solution out there in FreeBSDland? For example, is there a software-only version of RAID that works on IDE drives? TIA, Dan UCS Systems Administration To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jun 3 7:58:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from sol (cs1-gw.cs.binghamton.edu [128.226.171.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B1D36152A3 for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 07:58:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zzhang@cs.binghamton.edu) Received: from localhost (zzhang@localhost) by sol (SMI-8.6/8.6.9) with SMTP id KAA28627; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:46:43 -0400 Date: Thu, 3 Jun 1999 10:46:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Zhihui Zhang To: Daniel Malament Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: drive mirroring In-Reply-To: <199906031449.KAA05250@j51.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Daniel Malament wrote: > This is probably the wrong place to ask this, but since there have been a > bunch of discussions of RAID, I thought I'd give it a shot... > No flames please, but pointers would be appreciated. > > We're running FreeBSD 2.2.8 on a system with two 13 gig IDE drives, and > we'd like to have them mirror each other. I can do 'tar -cvpf - -C / / | > tar xpf -C /bak' every night (the second drive is mounted on /bak and has > identical partitions), but that won't remove files that have been deleted > from the main drive. Am I right in assuming that there's already a simple > solution out there in FreeBSDland? For example, is there a software-only > version of RAID that works on IDE drives? > Check at http://www.lemis.com/vinum/. Maybe that is what you want. Regards, -Zhihui To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jun 3 11:50:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5F6C14DFE for ; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 11:50:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA00681; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 11:47:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199906031847.LAA00681@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Daniel Malament Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: drive mirroring In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 03 Jun 1999 10:49:05 EDT." <199906031449.KAA05250@j51.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 03 Jun 1999 11:47:45 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > This is probably the wrong place to ask this, but since there have been a > bunch of discussions of RAID, I thought I'd give it a shot... > No flames please, but pointers would be appreciated. > > We're running FreeBSD 2.2.8 on a system with two 13 gig IDE drives, and > we'd like to have them mirror each other. I can do 'tar -cvpf - -C / / | > tar xpf -C /bak' every night (the second drive is mounted on /bak and has > identical partitions), but that won't remove files that have been deleted > from the main drive. Am I right in assuming that there's already a simple > solution out there in FreeBSDland? For example, is there a software-only > version of RAID that works on IDE drives? I would actually recommend you get an Arco DupliDisk or similar; these are trivial hardware-only IDE RAID-1 controllers. Because they're hardware-based, you don't have to futz with anything when a disk fails, which is _the_ major failing of software RAID. Try http://www.arcoide.com. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jun 3 17: 5:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from crap.31337.net (node1484.a2000.nl [62.108.20.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B7514E2E; Thu, 3 Jun 1999 17:05:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alexlh@crap.31337.net) Received: (from alexlh@localhost) by crap.31337.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) id CAA61998; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 02:06:42 GMT (envelope-from alexlh) Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 02:06:41 +0000 From: Alex Le Heux To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Asus TNT2 Message-ID: <19990604020641.A61763@funk.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just got an Asus TNT2 card for my birthday. *happiness* After replacing the Diamond Viper 550 that was in my box, I found that the current SVGA server for XFree*^ 3.3.3.1 doesn't support it. Fortunately the Linux driver that's up for download from http://www.nvidia.com seems to work, at least, it has for the past 5 minutes ;-) When it starts it complains about not being able to find /dev/tty0 and /dev/tty4, but linking /dev/ttyv0 and /dev/ttyv3 (ttyv3 being where I have my X) to tty0 and tty4 fixed this. On top of that I didn't have to change my modeline either :-) (un)fortunately I'll be leaving for Usenix tomorrow morning, so I won't have time to see if the OpenGL stuff works. Alex Le Heux PS. I can now play Quake2 (on windows) in some insane resolutions (1600x1200) -- +--------------------------------+-------------------+ | SMTP: | E-Gold: 101979 | | ICBM: N52 22.647' E4 51.555' | PGP: 0x1d512a3f | +--------------------------------+-------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jun 4 13:50:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from rrnet.com (rrnet.com [206.11.160.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0932514FA3 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 13:50:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdubuque@rrnet.com) Received: (from cdubuque@localhost) by rrnet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA22498 for freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:50:29 -0500 (CDT) From: Chad Dubuque Message-Id: <199906042050.PAA22498@rrnet.com> Subject: Gateway 2000 w/ RIDE BIOS To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 15:50:28 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone ever tried to use a Gateway 2000 computer that has a "RIDE" BIOS. I believe it was GW's attempt at IDE improvements (Rapid IDE) before EIDE. I know, this computer's just an old 486, but it'll make a heck of an IP router... The reason why I ask is that the install is failing after partitioning and formatting, just as the base (bin/aa) packages are extracting. I think it might be a write vs. BIOS issue. -- Chad Dubuque cdubuque@rrnet.com +1-701-232-2227 Red River Net - Internet Communications http://www.rrnet.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jun 4 23: 8: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from www.gglb.com (unknown [202.103.237.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85F8814F68 for ; Fri, 4 Jun 1999 23:07:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gglb@public.nn.gx.cn) Received: from mail pickup service by www.gglb.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 13:51:33 +0800 From: To: Subject: 广告联邦更新快递 Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 13:51:33 +0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Message-ID: <00cb03351050569WWW@www.gglb.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 广告联邦更新快递---------------- http://www.gglb.com 1、全新推出“免费分类广告“栏目 http://ad.gglb.com 您可以在此发布您的一切 合法信。 2、全国唯一的“广告人聊天室”诚邀您在此倾听广告人的心声，交流广告人的经 验。 3、在“广告论坛”，你可以找到一个广告人真正交流的空间。 4、广告联邦收录了全国著名的广告公司，广告材料公司，广告设备公司，查询更快 捷，增加更方便。 5、最新国内广告新闻，广告动态。 6、全新推出苹果软件大赠送：多种设计、图形软件无限制高速下载。 7、大量国内优秀广告图库，皆为全国各地的户外广告图形，原版赠送，希望能给您 带来灵感。 来广告联邦，做联邦广告............ http://www.gglb.com 广告联邦下载站点：................ http://download.gglb.com 最重要的一点，您在“广告联邦”所做的一切，都是免费的。 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Jun 5 15:49:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from forest.fscinternet.com (aurora.fscinternet.com [165.154.230.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7991C14D03; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 15:49:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rreiner@fscinternet.com) Received: from fscinternet.com (jupiter.fscinternet.com [10.1.1.103]) by forest.fscinternet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA03369; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 18:49:17 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3759A970.13C5239@fscinternet.com> Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 18:49:20 -0400 From: Richard Reiner Organization: FSC Internet Corp. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 10/100 NIC options for FreeBSD 2.2.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 3Com keeps changing chipset details in the 3c905, so new 3c905s don't work with FreeBSD 2.2.6. And the de driver in FreeBSD 2.2.6 only seems to work with DEC Tulip 21140, 21141 and 21141A (not 21143 etc), but most manuafactuers are now using the 21143 So there go the two 10/100 NICs I used to reply on for use with FreeBSD 2.2.6. I've got dozens of 2.2.6 boxes deployed at geographically distant locations, so upgrading them all isn't an option; what I need is: 1. Best of all would be a supply of 21141A based cards (DEc Tulip chipset, but *not* the 21143). 2. Second best would be some other good 10/100 card which can be obtained reliably. Anyone? (Please cc me on the reply, as I may not have a chance to check the lists this week). Thanks, Richard To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Jun 5 17:59:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from pegasus.com (unknown [209.84.70.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A1D6214D01; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 17:58:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from richard@pegasus.com) Received: by pegasus.com (8.6.8/PEGASUS-2.2) id OAA11790; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 14:58:29 -1000 Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 14:58:29 -1000 From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) Message-Id: <199906060058.OAA11790@pegasus.com> In-Reply-To: Richard Reiner "10/100 NIC options for FreeBSD 2.2.6" (Jun 5, 6:49pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: Richard Reiner , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 10/100 NIC options for FreeBSD 2.2.6 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org } } 3Com keeps changing chipset details in the 3c905, so new 3c905s don't work } with FreeBSD 2.2.6. } } And the de driver in FreeBSD 2.2.6 only seems to work with DEC Tulip 21140, } 21141 and 21141A (not 21143 etc), but most manuafactuers are now using the } 21143 } } So there go the two 10/100 NICs I used to reply on for use with FreeBSD } 2.2.6. I've got dozens of 2.2.6 boxes deployed at geographically distant } locations, so upgrading them all isn't an option; what I need is: } } 1. Best of all would be a supply of 21141A based cards (DEc Tulip chipset, } but *not* the 21143). } } 2. Second best would be some other good 10/100 card which can be obtained } reliably. } Or, 3. A new driver that supports the whole line of cards. It's not uncommon for pc card vendors to do this sort of thing. Petitioning them to be more forthcoming with programming details is a good idea. That could make the support task easier. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Jun 5 23: 5: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A34614BB8; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:05:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id AAA13699; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 00:05:01 -0600 (MDT) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199906060605.AAA13699@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: 10/100 NIC options for FreeBSD 2.2.6 In-Reply-To: <3759A970.13C5239@fscinternet.com> from Richard Reiner at "Jun 5, 1999 06:49:20 pm" To: rreiner@fscinternet.com (Richard Reiner) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 00:05:01 -0600 (MDT) Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Richard Reiner wrote... > 3Com keeps changing chipset details in the 3c905, so new 3c905s don't work > with FreeBSD 2.2.6. > > And the de driver in FreeBSD 2.2.6 only seems to work with DEC Tulip 21140, > 21141 and 21141A (not 21143 etc), but most manuafactuers are now using the > 21143 > > So there go the two 10/100 NICs I used to reply on for use with FreeBSD > 2.2.6. I've got dozens of 2.2.6 boxes deployed at geographically distant > locations, so upgrading them all isn't an option; what I need is: > > 1. Best of all would be a supply of 21141A based cards (DEc Tulip chipset, > but *not* the 21143). I believe those chips are no longer being made. I think most of the manufacturers who have used the 21140 and 21141 have switched to using clones. If you want a better answer, ask Bill Paul , he has written drivers for some of the clones. > 2. Second best would be some other good 10/100 card which can be obtained > reliably. I would suggest the Intel Pro/100+ family. The driver works great, and the cards are readily available. I've got those cards installed on more than 50 FreeBSD boxes, and I've never had a problem. BTW, it's also the card that was in wcarchive.cdrom.com, until they upgraded it to gigabit ethernet. i.e., it can handle a whole lot of traffic. Another thing about the Intel cards -- they're backwards compatible. Intel has come out with new versions of the chips (the original was the 82557, then they integrated the PHY for the 82558, and added management junk for the 82559), but they all still work fine with the driver. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Jun 5 23:27:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [63.67.141.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FBEE14F59 for ; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:27:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA17149; Sun, 6 Jun 1999 02:27:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 02:27:27 -0400 (EDT) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Richard Reiner Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 10/100 NIC options for FreeBSD 2.2.6 In-Reply-To: <3759A970.13C5239@fscinternet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 5 Jun 1999, Richard Reiner wrote: > 3Com keeps changing chipset details in the 3c905, so new 3c905s don't work > with FreeBSD 2.2.6. Bill has updates for all of his drivers at http://www.freebsd.org/~wpaul/ for 2.2 I suspect. -- | Matthew N. Dodd | 78 280Z | 75 164E | 84 245DL | FreeBSD/NetBSD/Sprite/VMS | | winter@jurai.net | This Space For Rent | ix86,sparc,m68k,pmax,vax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | Are you k-rad elite enough for my webpage? | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Jun 5 23:37:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from tantivy.stanford.edu (tantivy.Stanford.EDU [36.118.0.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80DCC153BE; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:37:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from techie@tantivy.stanford.edu) Received: (from techie@localhost) by tantivy.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id XAA38051; Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:37:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 23:37:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Bob Vaughan Message-Id: <199906060637.XAA38051@tantivy.stanford.edu> To: ken@plutotech.com, rreiner@fscinternet.com Subject: Re: 10/100 NIC options for FreeBSD 2.2.6 Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199906060605.AAA13699@panzer.plutotech.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bill Paul rewrote the driver for the 3com XL cards somewhere in the 2.2.6-2.2.7 timeframe.. the new driver is the xl driver, and it works for all of the 3c9xx cards.. (including the 3c905B) -- Welcome My Son, Welcome To The Machine -- Bob Vaughan | techie@{w6yx|tantivy}.stanford.edu | kc6sxc@w6yx.ampr.org | P.O. Box 9792, Stanford, Ca 94309-9792 -- I am Me, I am only Me, And no one else is Me, What could be simpler? -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message