From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jun 7 4:15:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mailgw3a.lmco.com (mailgw3a.lmco.com [192.35.35.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E3414DA6 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 04:15:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael.e.remski@lmco.com) Received: from emss04g01.ems.lmco.com ([166.17.13.122]) by mailgw3a.lmco.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA31264 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 07:15:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38332) id <0FCY00B01F9AP2@lmco.com> for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 07:15:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sanw00100321 ([129.86.163.80]) by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38332) with SMTP id <0FCY002Y5F991P@lmco.com> for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Mon, 07 Jun 1999 07:15:09 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 07:05:21 -0400 From: Michael Remski Subject: Motherboard Upgrades To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Reply-To: michael.e.remski@lmco.com Message-id: <375BA771.1BB@lmco.com> Organization: Sanders A Lockheed Martin Company MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone looking to upgrade a Pentium class machine, should defintely look at the ASUS P5A with a K6-III on it. I performed this brain transplant over the weekend (swapped out a Pentium-166) and so far, no problems at all. Really was a simple swap. m -- "You are in a maze of twisty passages, all alike" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jun 7 7:31:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from george.lbl.gov (george.lbl.gov [131.243.2.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 523C214CAE for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 07:31:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jin@george.lbl.gov) Received: (from jin@localhost) by george.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA29131; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 07:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 07:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199906071431.HAA29131@george.lbl.gov> From: jin@george.lbl.gov To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, michael.e.remski@lmco.com Subject: Re: Motherboard Upgrades Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org defintely? It is good recommendation, but not defintely if you looked at p9-10 on www-itg.lbl.gov/~jin/performance.pen.ps It is a good motherboard with some drawback: (1) only four expension slots -- 2 PCI, 1 PCI/ISA, 1 ISA (2) It is designed for K6-II/III only -- you cannot use old components -- most people don't need (3) FreeBSD 3.x or later has problem on boot manager to boot FreeBSD on second disk or on second partition (2,3,4 on DOS partition) The FIC 503+ seems having better memory performance than P5A, and it can use old memory SIMM/DIMM. It is a little hard to use in two place: setting jummper for memory and bus -- most has only one -- this is because that you can use a fast CPU with slower memory; save memory. The board layout is not prefected. The mounting hole and keyboard hole are mis-aligned, so the mounting is a little harder. Not big deal. Also, sometimes, it seems to be dead, but reset will "rescue" it :-) -Jin >Anyone looking to upgrade a Pentium class machine, should defintely look >at the ASUS P5A with a K6-III on it. I performed this brain transplant >over the weekend (swapped out a Pentium-166) and so far, no problems at >all. Really was a simple swap. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jun 7 8:15:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mailgw3a.lmco.com (mailgw3a.lmco.com [192.35.35.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FF6F1522D for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:15:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael.e.remski@lmco.com) Received: from emss04g01.ems.lmco.com ([166.17.13.122]) by mailgw3a.lmco.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA18988; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:15:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38332) id <0FCY00A01QCVSF@lmco.com>; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 11:15:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from sanw00100321 ([129.86.163.80]) by lmco.com (PMDF V5.2-32 #38332) with SMTP id <0FCY00OXQQCTRL@lmco.com>; Mon, 07 Jun 1999 11:14:54 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 11:05:05 -0400 From: Michael Remski Subject: Re: Motherboard Upgrades To: jin@george.lbl.gov Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: michael.e.remski@lmco.com Message-id: <375BDFA1.3CA0@lmco.com> Organization: Sanders A Lockheed Martin Company MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (WinNT; U) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT References: <199906071431.HAA29131@george.lbl.gov> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, following a bit of traffic on the lists, the VIA chipsets on the FIC seem to have some "issues". I wasn't sure how any of them would affect me, but the ASUS seemed to have gotten a lot of good press, so that was an influence. Expandability was not a big issue for me, my system is all SCSI, FreeBSD only, so all I needed as a couple of PCI slots and a couple ISA (NIC). A K6-III/400 with 128 MB PC100 SDRAM was a reasonably priced package. I'm not disagreeing with anything you've said, I was merely trying to report that in my instance, for the price and the ease of replacement (really only an hour of my time, including a couple of reboots to get the CMOS clock setting right), that I felt it was a good deal. thanks for sharing your view. mike -- "You are in a maze of twisty passages, all alike" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jun 7 17:56:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from shift-f1.com (unknown [208.152.204.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAEFB14CAA; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:55:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shashi@shift-f1.com) Received: (from shashi) by shift-f1.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id TAA12717; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:50:25 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <19990607205025.A12685@WEBSI.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:50:25 -0400 From: Shashi Joshi To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Ideal Server configuration?? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi guys, I am planning to buy a new system for web server. I wonder if anyone has come up with what a medium duty web server/mail server with dynamic page generation (cgi scripts) whould have. Here is my initial start: Pentium II 450 MHz 256MB 4 SCSI 9.1GB each I intend to be under $1500 without the price of hard disks, if possible. What are the other factor in hardware that should be taken in account for a web server? e.g. compare along the following lines: 1. PII 450 vs PIII 450 PIII 450 vs PIII 500 2. 256MB vs 512MB 3. L2 cache of 512K vs 2MB 4. 2 18GB SCSI disks vs 4 9.1GB SCSI disks 5. SCSI motherboard vs. separate SCSI adapter? I am trying to see the performance gain in each option, how much important each is. e.g. increasing the memory is always better than increasing the CPU speed, when it is already 450MHz (which is good enough). How much load can the following systems take in terms of email server AND web server. The email will only for the clients of web hosting. PII 450 256MB SCSI adapter (non-SCSI motherboard) PII 450 256MB SCSI mother board PII 450 512MB SCSI mother board PIII 450 512MB SCSI mother board Thanks in advance, -- Shashi Joshi _____________________________________________________________________ __o o__ o__ o__ o__ There's one _ \<._ _.>/ _ _.>/ _ _.>/ _ _.>/ _ in every (_)/ (_) (_) \(_) (_) \(_) (_) \(_) (_) \(_) crowd... _____________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jun 7 18:17:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from portal.net.au (galley.portal.net.au [202.12.71.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71CE014E10; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 18:16:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@portal.net.au) Received: (from matt@localhost) by portal.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA19051; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:46:08 +0930 (CST) From: Matt Baker Message-Id: <199906080116.KAA19051@portal.net.au> Subject: Re: Ideal Server configuration?? To: shashi@Shift-F1.com (Shashi Joshi) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:46:08 +0930 (CST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990607205025.A12685@WEBSI.com> from "Shashi Joshi" at Jun 7, 99 08:50:25 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi guys, Howdy, > I am planning to buy a new system for web server. I wonder if anyone has > come up with what a medium duty web server/mail server with dynamic page > generation (cgi scripts) whould have. Here is my initial start: How many users are you planning on handling on the mail server? How many of these would be connected at the same time? > Pentium II 450 MHz > 256MB > 4 SCSI 9.1GB each > > I intend to be under $1500 without the price of hard disks, if possible. > > What are the other factor in hardware that should be taken in account for a > web server? > e.g. compare along the following lines: > 1. PII 450 vs PIII 450 > PIII 450 vs PIII 500 certainly here, the price difference between PII/450's and PIII/450's is very minimal. I'ld be using a PIII/450 or 500 > 2. 256MB vs 512MB > 3. L2 cache of 512K vs 2MB this realy depends on the number of users. Personally I've found having more ram rather tahn more L2 cache is of benefit (if you can't have both) > 4. 2 18GB SCSI disks vs 4 9.1GB SCSI disks providing that you can cool them 4x9.1GB 7200rpm drives work well > 5. SCSI motherboard vs. separate SCSI adapter? I've been using Asus P2B-S with onboard Adaptec controllers and found they work well. I've not found any difference with having the SCSI controller off-board (Adaptec 2940UW) so you might as well save the $$ > I am trying to see the performance gain in each option, how much important > each is. e.g. increasing the memory is always better than increasing the > CPU speed, when it is already 450MHz (which is good enough). Exactly. You'll find that a PIII/450 will probably be more CPU than you'll need at the moment. By the sounds of your application it's ram that you'll find yourself running out of first. what are your cgi's written in? Matt. -- matt baker email: matt@sevenone.com Unix & Network Consultant Adelaide, South Australia SevenOne Pty Ltd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jun 7 19: 3:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from inc.net (mailhost.inc.net [204.95.160.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B68291502B for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:02:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@inc.net) Received: from inc.net (ess.phreak.net [207.250.97.69]) by inc.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA17406 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 21:02:13 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <375C7BBD.D3438B68@inc.net> Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 21:11:09 -0500 From: Steve Kaczkowski Organization: inc.Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh,zh-CN,zh-TW,ja,de,af MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: ATA/66 Compatibility ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wondering if anyone knows if ATA/66 IDE drives/controllers work with any of the current flavors of FreeBSD? I'm not too worried about the speed (I'd use SCSI if I wanted speed! :) ) I'm really just curious if it'll see disks that large (IBM has a nice 25 gig disk for about $380!).. Thanks in advance! -- Steve Kaczkowski Time Warner Telecom/inc.Net steve@inc.net (414)908-9012 http://www.inc.net (603)737-9209 Fax To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jun 7 19:55:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from public.guangzhou.gd.cn (smtp.guangzhou.gd.cn [202.96.128.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C95AA14E6B for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:47:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gzbigegg@public.guangzhou.gd.cn) Received: from liuyan ([202.103.137.134]) by public.guangzhou.gd.cn (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA03304 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:36:55 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <002c01beb159$20336f40$0201a8c0@liuyan> From: =?gb2312?B?wfXn/A==?= To: Subject: How to set up a modem? 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I paid about $190 to go from a Pentium-133 on an aging ASUS T2P4 to an AMD K6-350, and the K6-II's just keep dropping weekly. I got 4 PCI, 3 ISA, and one AGP (later sprung for a Rage 128 AGP card for $60) slots. The DFI has a very nice build quality that looks nicer than some of the older ASUS boards we have. I've got two of these for workstations so far (home/work) and haven't had any problems. The second was an experiment to see how much I could "recycle" an Asus T2P4. I simply bought a $55 K6-350 and dropped it in. There are some undocumented jumper settings that bring the voltage down to 2.2V for the AMD, the bus can be clocked to 75MHz, and one scary mod lets you up the CPU multiplier enough to get it running at 333MHz @ 75MHz bus. So far, so good, it's doing a buildworld tonight. The mod is simply jumpering two pins of the cpu together to increase the multiplier. You can see detailed instructions at http://members.xoom.com/upgrademan/t2p4site/main.html. For $60, it's not too shabby. My $0.02, Charles --- Charles Sprickman spork@super-g.com --- "...there's no idea that's so good you can't ruin it with a few well-placed idiots." On Mon, 7 Jun 1999, Michael Remski wrote: > Well, following a bit of traffic on the lists, the VIA chipsets on the > FIC seem to have some "issues". I wasn't sure how any of them would > affect me, but the ASUS seemed to have gotten a lot of good press, so > that was an influence. Expandability was not a big issue for me, my > system is all SCSI, FreeBSD only, so all I needed as a couple of PCI > slots and a couple ISA (NIC). A K6-III/400 with 128 MB PC100 SDRAM was > a reasonably priced package. I'm not disagreeing with anything you've > said, I was merely trying to report that in my instance, for the price > and the ease of replacement (really only an hour of my time, including a > couple of reboots to get the CMOS clock setting right), that I felt it > was a good deal. > > > thanks for sharing your view. > > mike > > -- > "You are in a maze of twisty passages, all alike" > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Mon Jun 7 20:21:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from pegasus.com (unknown [209.84.70.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 46A3514C82 for ; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 20:20:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from richard@pegasus.com) Received: by pegasus.com (8.6.8/PEGASUS-2.2) id RAA27287; Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:20:14 -1000 Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 17:20:14 -1000 From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) Message-Id: <199906080320.RAA27287@pegasus.com> In-Reply-To: spork "Re: Motherboard Upgrades" (Jun 7, 11:09pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Motherboard Upgrades Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org } } I've found two cheap upgrades so far: } } DFI mobo, K6-in-your-price-range, PC100 DIMMS. [...] A suggestion, don't buy non-parity RAM, now that parity and ECC are supported again. The small savings isn't worth the risk. It's about time we started to recover from Intel's stupid chipset bug of several years ago. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jun 8 8:10:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from george.lbl.gov (george.lbl.gov [131.243.2.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC81B14FFE; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:09:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jin@george.lbl.gov) Received: (from jin@localhost) by george.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.2) id IAA27798; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199906081509.IAA27798@george.lbl.gov> From: jin@george.lbl.gov To: matt@portal.net.au, shashi@Shift-F1.com Subject: Re: Ideal Server configuration?? Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org } How many users are you planning on handling on the mail server? How many of } these would be connected at the same time? } } > Pentium II 450 MHz } > 256MB } > 4 SCSI 9.1GB each } > } > I intend to be under $1500 without the price of hard disks, if possible. } > } > What are the other factor in hardware that should be taken in account for a } > web server? } > e.g. compare along the following lines: } > 1. PII 450 vs PIII 450 } > PIII 450 vs PIII 500 } } certainly here, the price difference between PII/450's and PIII/450's } is very minimal. I'ld be using a PIII/450 or 500 PIII 450 vs PIII 500 is just price and CPU power. The bus is the same. If you have a cold room, use PIII 450 running on 110MHz bus clock, you will get better I/O then PIII-500 and have then same CPU power. We have tested this overclocking on our server for a month w/o any problem. } > 2. 256MB vs 512MB } > 3. L2 cache of 512K vs 2MB } } this realy depends on the number of users. Personally I've found having } more ram rather tahn more L2 cache is of benefit (if you can't have both) It also depends on I/O or computation load. For I/O based server, cache is no issue. For math app. oriented server, you need larger cache. } > 4. 2 18GB SCSI disks vs 4 9.1GB SCSI disks } } providing that you can cool them 4x9.1GB 7200rpm drives work well } } > 5. SCSI motherboard vs. separate SCSI adapter? Modern larger SCSI disk (bigger than 8GB) all work well. } I've been using Asus P2B-S with onboard Adaptec controllers and found they } work well. I've not found any difference with having the SCSI controller } off-board (Adaptec 2940UW) so you might as well save the $$ If you want two SCSI controllers, you may choose the Symbios Logic based SCSI, such as ASUS SC-875. The performance is same as Adaptec, but much lower price. } > I am trying to see the performance gain in each option, how much important } > each is. e.g. increasing the memory is always better than increasing the } > CPU speed, when it is already 450MHz (which is good enough). This implies that you have a server with more I/O loads. P-III-450 should be better choice. You must be wonder why not overclock 500 P-III on 110 bus. This is chip manufactory technical issue. It is hard to explain in a line. -Jin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jun 8 8:11: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from public.guangzhou.gd.cn (smtp.guangzhou.gd.cn [202.96.128.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 695B915345 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:10:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gzbigegg@public.guangzhou.gd.cn) Received: from liuyan ([202.103.138.177]) by public.guangzhou.gd.cn (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id WAA00692 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 22:59:48 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <001901beb1c0$e816d440$0201a8c0@liuyan> From: =?Windows-1252?B?wfXn/A==?= To: Subject: How to set up a modem? Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 23:09:05 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0014_01BEB203.E7B99DA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BEB203.E7B99DA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 SGkgYWxsOg0KDQpJIGFtIG5ldyB0byB0aGlzIHBsYWNlIGFzIHdlbGwgYXMgdGhlIEZyZWVCU0Qs IGhvcGUgdGhpcyBpcyB0aGUgcHJvcGVyIGdyb3VwIHRvIHBvc3QgbXkgcXVlc3Rpb24uDQoNCkkn bSB1c2luZyBGcmVlQlNEIDMuMSBzdGFibGUgYW5kIGdldCBhbiBleHRlcm5hbCBtb2RlbSBvbiBD T00xLCBzaW5jZSBteSBOSUMgdXNlcyB0aGUgc2FtZSBpcnE0IGFzIENPTTIsIHNvIEkgZGlzYWJs ZSB0aGUgQ09NMiBvbiBib2FyZC4gSSBrbm93IEkgaGF2ZSB0byBzZXQgdXAgc29tZXRoaW5nIGJl Zm9yZSBpdCB3b3JrcywgYnV0IGp1c3QgY2Fubm90IGZpbmQgYSBjbHVlIGFmdGVyIHJlYWRpbmcg dGhlIGhhZG5ib29rLg0KDQpXb3VsZCBzb21lYm9keSBraW5kbHkgdGVsbCBtZSB0aGUgcHJvY2Vk dXJlIHRvIHNldCB1cCBhbmQgdHVuZSBhIG1vZGVtPyBPciB0aGUgd2F5IHRvIGZpbmQgb3V0IHRo ZSBzb2x1dGlvbnMuDQoNCkxpdSBZYW4NCg0K ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BEB203.E7B99DA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 PCFET0NUWVBFIEhUTUwgUFVCTElDICItLy9XM0MvL0RURCBIVE1MIDQuMCBUcmFuc2l0aW9uYWwv L0VOIj4NCjxIVE1MPjxIRUFEPg0KPE1FVEEgY29udGVudD0idGV4dC9odG1sOyBjaGFyc2V0PXdp bmRvd3MtMTI1MiIgaHR0cC1lcXVpdj1Db250ZW50LVR5cGU+DQo8TUVUQSBjb250ZW50PSJNU0hU TUwgNS4wMC4yMDE0LjIxMCIgbmFtZT1HRU5FUkFUT1I+DQo8U1RZTEU+PC9TVFlMRT4NCjwvSEVB RD4NCjxCT0RZIGJnQ29sb3I9I2ZmZmZmZj4NCjxESVY+PEZPTlQgZmFjZT0mIzIzNDM1OyYjMjAz MDc7IHNpemU9Mj4NCjxESVY+PEZPTlQgc2l6ZT0yPkhpIGFsbDo8L0ZPTlQ+PC9ESVY+DQo8RElW PiZuYnNwOzwvRElWPg0KPERJVj48Rk9OVCBzaXplPTI+SSBhbSBuZXcgdG8gdGhpcyBwbGFjZSBh cyB3ZWxsIGFzIHRoZSBGcmVlQlNELCBob3BlIHRoaXMgaXMgDQp0aGUgcHJvcGVyIGdyb3VwIHRv IHBvc3QgbXkgcXVlc3Rpb24uPC9GT05UPjwvRElWPg0KPERJVj4mbmJzcDs8L0RJVj4NCjxESVY+ PEZPTlQgc2l6ZT0yPkknbSB1c2luZyBGcmVlQlNEIDMuMSBzdGFibGUgYW5kIGdldCBhbiBleHRl cm5hbCBtb2RlbSBvbiANCkNPTTEsIHNpbmNlIG15IE5JQyB1c2VzIHRoZSBzYW1lIGlycTQgYXMg Q09NMiwgc28gSSBkaXNhYmxlIHRoZSBDT00yIG9uIGJvYXJkLiBJIA0Ka25vdyBJIGhhdmUgdG8g c2V0IHVwIHNvbWV0aGluZyBiZWZvcmUgaXQgd29ya3MsIGJ1dCBqdXN0IGNhbm5vdCBmaW5kJm5i c3A7YSANCmNsdWUgYWZ0ZXIgcmVhZGluZyB0aGUgaGFkbmJvb2suPC9GT05UPjwvRElWPg0KPERJ Vj4mbmJzcDs8L0RJVj4NCjxESVY+PEZPTlQgc2l6ZT0yPldvdWxkIHNvbWVib2R5IGtpbmRseSB0 ZWxsIG1lIHRoZSBwcm9jZWR1cmUgdG8gc2V0IHVwIGFuZCB0dW5lIA0KYSBtb2RlbT8gT3IgdGhl IHdheSB0byBmaW5kIG91dCB0aGUgc29sdXRpb25zLjwvRk9OVD48L0RJVj4NCjxESVY+Jm5ic3A7 PC9ESVY+DQo8RElWPjxGT05UIHNpemU9Mj5MaXUgWWFuPC9GT05UPjwvRElWPg0KPERJVj4mbmJz cDs8L0RJVj48L0ZPTlQ+PC9ESVY+PC9CT0RZPjwvSFRNTD4NCg== ------=_NextPart_000_0014_01BEB203.E7B99DA0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jun 8 8:38:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from www1.asacomputers.com (unknown [204.153.176.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F01BE14E6B for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:38:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kedar@asacomputers.com) Received: from kedar.asacomputers.com (kedar.asacomputers.com [204.153.176.86]) by www1.asacomputers.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA08276; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 08:55:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kedar@asacomputers.com) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990608153149.0236f5bc@asacomputers.com> X-Sender: rajadnya@asacomputers.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 08:31:49 -0700 To: jin@george.lbl.gov From: Kedar Rajadnya Subject: Re: Ideal Server configuration?? Cc: matt@portal.net.au, shashi@Shift-F1.com, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >} I've been using Asus P2B-S with onboard Adaptec controllers and found they >} work well. I've not found any difference with having the SCSI controller >} off-board (Adaptec 2940UW) so you might as well save the $$ > >If you want two SCSI controllers, you may choose the Symbios Logic based SCSI, >such as ASUS SC-875. The performance is same as Adaptec, but much lower price. Hi, If you are using LVD disks, the performance *should* differ, should it not? The 875 is an SE chip while the Asus P2B-S has the 7890 LVD chip on board. By the way, Asus does not make the SC-875 any more. So the Tekram DC390F would be the one to look for, for the 875 chip. YMMV, Kedar. Take care, Kedar Rajadnya. ASA Computers, Inc. 2354 Calle Del Mundo. Santa Clara, CA 95054. TEL: (408)654-2901 ext201 CELL: (408)799-7263 TOLL FREE:(877)538-1272 FAX: (408)654-2910 ***************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jun 8 9: 3:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from pop1.guangzhou.gd.cn (pop1.guangzhou.gd.cn [202.96.128.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E635815012 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 09:00:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gzbigegg@public.guangzhou.gd.cn) Received: from raymond ([202.103.138.177]) by pop1.guangzhou.gd.cn (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id XAA05871 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 23:39:43 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <002801beb032$a594d340$0901a8c0@raymond> From: "Kenny Liu" To: Subject: How to setup a Modem Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 23:38:31 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all: I am new to this place as well as the FreeBSD, hope this is the proper group to post my question. I'm using FreeBSD 3.1 stable and get an external modem on COM1, since my NIC uses the same irq4 as COM2, so I disable the COM2 on board. I know I have to set up something before it works, but just cannot find a clue after reading the hadnbook. Would somebody kindly tell me the procedure to set up and tune a modem? Or the way to find out the solutions. Liu Yan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jun 8 10:42:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from rose.man.poznan.pl (rose.man.poznan.pl [150.254.173.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49CDD14EA4 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 10:42:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michalp@man.poznan.pl) Received: from localhost (michalp@localhost) by rose.man.poznan.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA24405 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:42:34 +0200 (METDST) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 19:42:34 +0200 (METDST) From: Michal Przybylski To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: which ATM card is supportet in ALTQ In-Reply-To: <001901beb1c0$e816d440$0201a8c0@liuyan> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all. I'm having a little trouble installing ATM card for FreeBSD+ALTQ. I've found that only Efficient Network Inc. ATM card and Adaptec 155Mbps PCI ATM card are valid for this release. Does anybody know if Fore PCA200EPC, normally supported in FreeBSD will work? I've got troubles installing it (fore_dnld reports "microcode not loaded" during boot, and if i try to load it later, it hangs. Any solution? thx michal Michal Przybylski Poznan Supercomputing & Networking Center Poland email: michalp@man.poznan.pl tel. +48601567947 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jun 8 11: 8:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from rose.man.poznan.pl (rose.man.poznan.pl [150.254.173.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC69D153DC for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:08:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michalp@man.poznan.pl) Received: from localhost (michalp@localhost) by rose.man.poznan.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA27853 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:08:15 +0200 (METDST) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:08:15 +0200 (METDST) From: Michal Przybylski To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <19990528111046.B22096@cs.waikato.ac.nz> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone know exact name (type, etc.) of the atm cards supported in freebsd altq? michal Michal Przybylski Poznan Supercomputing & Networking Center Poland email: michalp@man.poznan.pl tel. +48601567947 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jun 8 11:50: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from rose.man.poznan.pl (rose.man.poznan.pl [150.254.173.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 608A3154E2 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:49:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michalp@man.poznan.pl) Received: from localhost (michalp@localhost) by rose.man.poznan.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA02992 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:49:44 +0200 (METDST) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:49:43 +0200 (METDST) From: Michal Przybylski To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Motherboard Upgrades In-Reply-To: <375BA771.1BB@lmco.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org And another question. Is there any possibility to use ATM card not supported by ALTQ, as an interface where CBQ is not used? I mean i have 2 interfaces, and i want to use ALTQ on one of them, and i do not require ALTQ on ATM card. Can i use one of not supported by ALTQ and supoported by FreeBSD kernel w/o ALTQ? thx Michal Michal Przybylski Poznan Supercomputing & Networking Center Poland email: michalp@man.poznan.pl tel. +48601567947 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jun 8 11:50:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from rose.man.poznan.pl (rose.man.poznan.pl [150.254.173.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A6C614D2A for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 11:50:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michalp@man.poznan.pl) Received: from localhost (michalp@localhost) by rose.man.poznan.pl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA03199 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:50:43 +0200 (METDST) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 20:50:43 +0200 (METDST) From: Michal Przybylski To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ATM problems In-Reply-To: <375BA771.1BB@lmco.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org excuses for last message subject. It won't happen again ;) michal Michal Przybylski Poznan Supercomputing & Networking Center Poland email: michalp@man.poznan.pl tel. +48601567947 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jun 8 15:29: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2F9B1530F for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:28:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asteffes@broome.nuxi.com) Received: from broome.nuxi.com (d60-110.leach.ucdavis.edu [169.237.60.110]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10092 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:28:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asteffes@broome.nuxi.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by broome.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA47500 for ; Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:28:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asteffes@broome.nuxi.com) Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 15:28:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Adam Steffes X-Sender: asteffes@localhost To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Tekram SCSI cards Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all. Is there any support right now, under 3.x or 4-C, for Tekram's UW-SCSI or U2W-SCSI cards? tekram.com says they are using Symbios 53C895, 53C141, 53C875, and AMD 53C974A, for various versions of SCSI, UltraSCSI, UW-SCSI, and U2W-SCSI cards. If support exists, or might occur soon, that would be great. These cards are a lot less expensive than Adaptec's offerings. Thanks! -Adam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 9 1:45: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from gw.caamora.com.au (jonath5.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.41.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446DA14D70 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 01:45:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@gw.caamora.com.au) Received: (from jon@localhost) by gw.caamora.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA22127; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:44:58 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jon) Message-ID: <19990609184457.A22109@caamora.com.au> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:44:57 +1000 From: jonathan michaels To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: cdrom writer Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.91.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD gw.caamora.com.au 2.2.7-RELEASE i386 X-Mood: i'm alive, if it counts Organisation: Caamora, PO Box 144, Rosebery NSW 1445 Australia Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org all, can anyone recommend, or suggest a replacement for the old hp 'cd writer' model 6020, please. i'm about to build a text file and database server (on freebsd) with a bunch of scsi drives, a dlt backup and would like the option of being able to distribute cdrom some editions of specifically prepared "databases". these would be a mix of raw text (asci) and binary meta data . as well as teh odd text to speach synthesiser files and some pdf's and jpegs. as i don't read the mailing lists as i should, i'd also apreciate a cc: please. regards and thanks for your time and effort. cheers jonathan -- =============================================================================== Jonathan Michaels PO Box 144, Rosebery, NSW 1445 Australia =========================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 9 2:55:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from sby.centrin.net.id (sby.centrin.net.id [202.146.252.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A56814FD8 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 02:55:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from inu@sby.centrin.net.id) Received: from sby.centrin.net.id ([202.146.252.212]) by sby.centrin.net.id (Netscape Mail Server v1.1) with ESMTP id AAA20115 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:55:30 +0700 Message-ID: <375E3B88.8951580C@sby.centrin.net.id> Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 17:01:44 +0700 From: Inu Wikantiyoso Organization: AMM (Anti Micro$oft Movement) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Hardware Subject: Canon BJC-210 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all ... Does FreeBSD supports Canon BJC-210 printer ? I use FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE and want to print some documents from my FreeBSD. BTW, I've test the printer and got 'stair steping' problem and failed with postscript document. Does anybody would send me a printcap file for Canon BJC-210 ? Thanks inoe -- unix vs. windoze great power vs. nothing To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 9 9:22:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from uswgco3.uswc.uswest.com (uswgco3.uswest.com [209.54.108.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C0414D6D; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:22:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mmeola@ima2wk6.uswc.uswest.com) Received: from egate2.mnet.uswest.com (mailgate.uswc.uswest.com [151.117.138.135]) by uswgco3.uswc.uswest.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA09605; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:22:35 -0600 (MDT) Received: from smokey.uswc.uswest.com (smokey.uswc.uswest.com [151.119.16.10]) by egate2.mnet.uswest.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA08990; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:22:36 -0500 (CDT) Received: from ima2wk6.uswc.uswest.com (ima2wk6.uswc.uswest.com [151.116.151.207]) by smokey.uswc.uswest.com (8.6.11/uswc-hub.950320) with ESMTP id KAA27947; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:22:34 -0600 Received: from ima2wk6.uswc.uswest.com (localhost.uswc.uswest.com [127.0.0.1]) by ima2wk6.uswc.uswest.com (8.6.11/uswc-server.950313) with ESMTP id KAA01643; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 10:22:33 -0600 Message-Id: <199906091622.KAA01643@ima2wk6.uswc.uswest.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.3 3/22/99 From: Matt Meola To: hardware@freebsd.org Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: liquid cooling a motherboard? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 10:22:32 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Not too long ago, I saw a link which pointed one to a web page where a guy had immersed his motherboard in mineral oil, and recycled the oil over a cooling unit -- it looked slick (no pun intended). Problem is, I _thought_ I had bookmarked the site, but I can't find it. Now, I thought for sure that I saw it on one of the (many) FreeBSD mailing lists I'm on; does this ring a bell with anyone? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 9 9:30:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from apotheosis.za.org (apotheosis.za.org [137.158.128.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2920151E2; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:30:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lonewolf@apotheosis.za.org) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 18:30:15 +0200 From: Lonewolf To: Matt Meola Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: liquid cooling a motherboard? Message-ID: <19990609183015.A86878@apotheosis.za.org> Mail-Followup-To: Matt Meola , hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199906091622.KAA01643@ima2wk6.uswc.uswest.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199906091622.KAA01643@ima2wk6.uswc.uswest.com>; from "Matt Meola" on Wed, Jun 09, 1999 at 10:22:32AM Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://www.accsdata.com/drffreeze/Dr%20Ffreeze.htm is what you're looking for. http://www.wizard.com/users/scfoster/public_html is also very interesting :) I found both (and more similar) on slashdot: http://slashdot.org/search.pl?topic=hardware -- lonewolf@apotheosis.za.org On Wed, Jun 09, 1999 at 10:22:32AM -0600, Matt Meola wrote: > Not too long ago, I saw a link which pointed one to a web page where a > guy had immersed his motherboard in mineral oil, and recycled the oil > over a cooling unit -- it looked slick (no pun intended). > > Problem is, I _thought_ I had bookmarked the site, but I can't find it. > Now, I thought for sure that I saw it on one of the (many) FreeBSD > mailing lists I'm on; does this ring a bell with anyone? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 9 11:44:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from dialup124.zpr.Uni-Koeln.DE (dialup124.zpr.Uni-Koeln.DE [134.95.219.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D458914C05; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:44:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from se@dialup124.zpr.Uni-Koeln.DE) Received: (from se@localhost) by dialup124.zpr.Uni-Koeln.DE (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA04069; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 20:26:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from se) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 20:26:51 +0200 From: Stefan Esser To: Adam Steffes Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, Stefan Esser Subject: Re: Tekram SCSI cards Message-ID: <19990609202651.A4013@dialup124.mi.uni-koeln.de> Reply-To: se@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Adam Steffes on Tue, Jun 08, 1999 at 03:28:31PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 1999-06-08 15:28 -0700, Adam Steffes wrote: > > Hi all. Is there any support right now, under 3.x or 4-C, for Tekram's > UW-SCSI or U2W-SCSI cards? tekram.com says they are using Symbios 53C895, > 53C141, 53C875, and AMD 53C974A, for various versions of SCSI, UltraSCSI, > UW-SCSI, and U2W-SCSI cards. The "NCR" driver works for the Tekram cards based on the 53c875 or 53c895. (The 895 is currently only supported in 4.x, but I intend to import the changes into 3.x very soon ...) The AMD chip is "dumb", i.e. causes several interrupts per SCSI transfer ... Regards, STefan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 9 12:46:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from george.lbl.gov (george.lbl.gov [131.243.2.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF83C1565B for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:46:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jin@george.lbl.gov) Received: (from jin@localhost) by george.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.2) id MAA27296; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:46:34 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:46:34 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199906091946.MAA27296@george.lbl.gov> From: jin@george.lbl.gov To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, tom@embt.com Subject: Re: P-II vs K6-2 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tom Embt (tom@embt.com) wrote > I must also defend the Celery 450A :) Would you please tell me which farm plants Celery 450A :) ? I am not sure if you were talking the Celeron because at end of the mail you also refered Celery to > http://www.bxboards.com, and there is no Celeron 450 for sell. :-) All Celeron is based on 66MHz bus clock and they are available at 300/333/366/400/433/466 MHz. > I would pretty much have to agree with Brandon here. If I were building a > new computer for myself I would think Celeron before anything else. The > new ones (300A and above, both PPGA and slot-1 types) built on the > Mendecino core are an incredible value. I would say that >= 85% of them > can run at 450MHz, sometimes beyond. Now remember that the multiplier on ... > Since the Mendocino core seems easily capable of running 450MHz, but 500MHz > is less common, the best choice you can make is to get a Celeron 300A > (66x4.5) and run it at 450MHz (100x4.5). The OEM 300A is currently > available for $60-$70 from various places, but you'd also need to buy a > decent fan to put on it. Retail versions cost more but you get the fan > included, and some say they are more overclockable as well. Oh - and > Malaysian chips are better than Costa-Rican chips. So lucky! I have a dozen of Celerons from 400 to 466, and none of them can run at 100 MHz bus clock. Some of them can run at 83 MHz, but all of them can be overclocked to 75MHz bus clock without problems. I was told the 300 Celeron is more overclockable, but just had no chance to prove it. > The L2 cache on the Celly's does, as Brandon said, run at full core speed. > So forget the people that laugh at the Celeron because it only has a puny > 128KB of L2. A 450MHz Celeron's L2 is running at 450MHz, whereas a 450MHz > Pentium-II's cache is running at 225MHz (real P2's run it at half core ... > Well, if you are interested in going with a Celery, go read > http://www.bxboards.com and surf the newsgroups ala http://www.dejanews.com > . If not, well, maybe someone will gain some info from this rather > longwinded post of mine. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 9 13:14:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.gfit.net (ns.gfit.net [209.41.124.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B21C214D82 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:14:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Received: from paranor.embt.net (timembt.iinc.com [206.67.169.229]) by mercury.gfit.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA24396; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:09:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990609161353.0097b530@mail.embt.com> X-Sender: tembt@mail.embt.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 16:13:53 -0400 To: jin@george.lbl.gov From: Tom Embt Subject: Re: P-II vs K6-2 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199906091946.MAA27296@george.lbl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:46 PM 6/9/99 -0700, you wrote: >Tom Embt (tom@embt.com) wrote >> I must also defend the Celery 450A :) > >Would you please tell me which farm plants Celery 450A :) ? The "450A" doesn't exist as such, it is an unofficial name given to the end result of overclocking a Celeron 300A to 450MHz. This gives pretty good success rates, particularly with PPGA style processors. Exact numbers are anyones guess but most people seem to think it's over 75%. With the price of PPGA 300A's today, it is an extremely inexpensive way to get approximately P2-450 performance. As for your lack of luck getting Celerons to 100MHz bus speeds, what speed chips have you been trying to overclock? I ask because the average capability of the Mendocino core (although ever changing) seems to be around 450-500MHz. Some are better or worse, but because of this many 333MHz and up Celerons won't hit 100MHz bus because their core can't take it. 300A's are the natural choice, as their fixed 4.5x multiplier on a 100MHz bus gives a core speed that is obtainable by the majority of chips (450MHz). Also, use of a quality motherboard is helpful in overclocking. Tom Embt tom@embt.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 9 13:54: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from beelzebubba.sysabend.org (beelzebubba.sysabend.org [208.243.107.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28BA215165; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 13:54:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ragnar@sysabend.org) Received: by beelzebubba.sysabend.org (Postfix, from userid 1004) id A25194079; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:54:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by beelzebubba.sysabend.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 811919ABD; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:54:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 16:54:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Jamie Bowden To: Matt Meola Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: liquid cooling a motherboard? In-Reply-To: <199906091622.KAA01643@ima2wk6.uswc.uswest.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Matt Meola wrote: :Not too long ago, I saw a link which pointed one to a web page where a :guy had immersed his motherboard in mineral oil, and recycled the oil :over a cooling unit -- it looked slick (no pun intended). : :Problem is, I _thought_ I had bookmarked the site, but I can't find it. :Now, I thought for sure that I saw it on one of the (many) FreeBSD :mailing lists I'm on; does this ring a bell with anyone? It was on slashdot, hit their archive. Jamie Bowden -- If we've got to fight over grep, sign me up. But boggle can go. -Ted Faber (on Hasbro's request for removal of /usr/games/boggle) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 9 15:55:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from pegasus.com (unknown [209.84.70.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A1945154F7 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 15:55:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from richard@pegasus.com) Received: by pegasus.com (8.6.8/PEGASUS-2.2) id MAA13633; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:55:08 -1000 Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:55:08 -1000 From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) Message-Id: <199906092255.MAA13633@pegasus.com> In-Reply-To: Jamie Bowden "Re: liquid cooling a motherboard?" (Jun 9, 4:54pm) X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.5 10/14/92) To: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: liquid cooling a motherboard? Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org } On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Matt Meola wrote: } } :Not too long ago, I saw a link which pointed one to a web page where a } :guy had immersed his motherboard in mineral oil, and recycled the oil } :over a cooling unit [...] Why? Is this to push the speed envelope or just to keep things well lubricated? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 9 19:24:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from george.lbl.gov (george.lbl.gov [131.243.2.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2928E152FB for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 19:24:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jin@george.lbl.gov) Received: (from jin@localhost) by george.lbl.gov (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA05830; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 19:24:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 19:24:17 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199906100224.TAA05830@george.lbl.gov> From: jin@george.lbl.gov To: tom@embt.com Subject: Re: P-II vs K6-2 Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > As for your lack of luck getting Celerons to 100MHz bus speeds, what speed > chips have you been trying to overclock? I ask because the average > capability of the Mendocino core (although ever changing) seems to be > around 450-500MHz. Some are better or worse, but because of this many > 333MHz and up Celerons won't hit 100MHz bus because their core can't take > it. 300A's are the natural choice, as their fixed 4.5x multiplier on a > 100MHz bus gives a core speed that is obtainable by the majority of chips > (450MHz). Notice that ALL K6-II/III and P-II/III are at fixed bus multiplexer. Only overclock is to over clock the bus speed. > Also, use of a quality motherboard is helpful in overclocking. I am using ASUS P2B-B/F and P2B. I will get some P99ZX soon. I can overclock P-III-450 to 500 (110 MHz bus), so it sounds like not the motherboard problem. Just think the ALL Celeron may be made by same quality silicon, maybe 475MHz is the top speed. So, 300 one can run at 100 MHz bus, but 400/433/466 will only run at 75/83 MHz bus clock. To result maximum CPU speed about 450-525. So, may be the right choice is to buy 300A CPU instead any thing above it for best performace/price. The difference will be the heat. overclock 400 to 450/500 will NOT increase the CPU temperature. And you said overclock 300 to 450 needs a better cooling sink/fan. -Jin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 9 21:21:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.gfit.net (ns.gfit.net [209.41.124.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A501F14E86 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 21:21:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Received: from paranor.embt.net (timembt.iinc.com [206.67.169.229]) by mercury.gfit.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id XAA09649; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:16:37 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from tom@embt.com) Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990610002132.0097c14c@mail.embt.com> X-Sender: tembt@mail.embt.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 00:21:32 -0400 To: jin@george.lbl.gov From: Tom Embt Subject: Re: P-II vs K6-2 Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199906100224.TAA05830@george.lbl.gov> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >Notice that ALL K6-II/III and P-II/III are at fixed bus multiplexer. >Only overclock is to over clock the bus speed. I was not aware K6-II/III were multiplier locked. I can't say I'm surprised though. I haven't had any direct experience with these AMD chips but other people on the list say they're quite snappy under FreeBSD. >> Also, use of a quality motherboard is helpful in overclocking. > >I am using ASUS P2B-B/F and P2B. I will get some P99ZX soon. >I can overclock P-III-450 to 500 (110 MHz bus), so it sounds like not the >motherboard problem. Just think the ALL Celeron may be made by same quality >silicon, maybe 475MHz is the top speed. So, 300 one can run at 100 MHz bus, >but 400/433/466 will only run at 75/83 MHz bus clock. To result maximum CPU >speed about 450-525. >So, may be the right choice is to buy 300A CPU instead any thing above it >for best performace/price. > >The difference will be the heat. overclock 400 to 450/500 will NOT increase >the CPU temperature. And you said overclock 300 to 450 needs a better cooling >sink/fan. > > -Jin > Yep. It is probably worth mentioning that while any BX board is within spec at 100MHz, some will handle an "on the edge" chip better than others. Your statement that buying the 300A instead of higher priced Celerons for the best performance/price is exactly true IMO. Others could(will?) argue "just buy a 433/466 and don't worry about it." That is a good option too, if a little more expensive. The original Celeron post I made was written when a 333 was about the fastest (Celeron) available. There is a degree of luck involved, but even if the first 300A doesn't overclock, you could always sell it at a reduced price, buy a new one which probably will overclock, and still be cheaper than a 433 or 466. Truth is.. some just OC better than others. A friend's 300A will not even boot Windows at 450MHz/2.3v. I'm sitting next to one that runs great at 464MHz/2.1v. I've heard tales of PPGA 300A's that run flawlessly at 504MHz/1.85v!! Note that normal is 2.0v, but the person in question reduced it for "cooling purposes". ..of course you could also throw your board/cpu into a vat of mineral oil along with an air conditioner... Tom Embt tom@embt.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jun 9 23:38:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from guard.polynet.lviv.ua (Guard.PolyNet.Lviv.UA [194.44.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4FF5D14F88 for ; Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:38:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from akorud@polynet.lviv.ua) Received: (qmail 14644 invoked from network); 10 Jun 1999 06:38:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO postoffice.polynet.lviv.ua) (unknown) by unknown with SMTP; 10 Jun 1999 06:38:39 -0000 Received: (qmail 20354 invoked from network); 10 Jun 1999 06:38:38 -0000 Received: (ofmipd unknown); 10 Jun 1999 06:38:16 -0000 Date: 10 Jun 1999 09:38:37 +0300 Message-ID: From: "Andrij Korud" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: RE: P-II vs K6-2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <199906100224.TAA05830@george.lbl.gov> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > As for your lack of luck getting Celerons to 100MHz bus speeds, > what speed > > chips have you been trying to overclock? I ask because the average > > capability of the Mendocino core (although ever changing) seems to be > > around 450-500MHz. Some are better or worse, but because of this many > > 333MHz and up Celerons won't hit 100MHz bus because their core > can't take > > it. 300A's are the natural choice, as their fixed 4.5x multiplier on a > > 100MHz bus gives a core speed that is obtainable by the > majority of chips > > (450MHz). > > Notice that ALL K6-II/III and P-II/III are at fixed bus multiplexer. > Only overclock is to over clock the bus speed. > This is true only for boxed PII. I have K6-II 200 (66x3) and on ACorp maotherboard it runs at 300 (100x3), 350 (100x3.5), and even on 400 (100x4). On all frequencies it runs very well, FreeBSD's make world runs without problem. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jun 10 5:53:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from prisoner.onesoft.com (unknown [208.209.133.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D566214F0D; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 05:52:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bsletten@nova.org) Received: from nova.org (sam-gatt0011.comm.hq.af.mil [134.205.87.92]) by prisoner.onesoft.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.1960.3) id MS4JFDMC; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:53:51 -0400 Message-ID: <375FB5CF.430953BB@nova.org> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:55:43 -0400 From: Brian Sletten X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Richard Kiss Cc: tanizaki@excite.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: burning a cd References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Can anyone point me towards some good documentation on how to burn a cd-rom >with a HP 7200 cd-writer (ide) on 3.1 stable? > > >Thanks, > >Matt Stacker Please post any information you may find, Matt/Richard. When I bought my machine from a company that builds FreeBSD machines, they asked me if I wanted a CD-RW. The one they were selling was an HP 8200i. I asked if it worked w/ FreeBSD and was told that it did. Quite distressingly, it did not. I have yet to burn a CD w/ this device under 2.2.8, 3.0.X, 3.1, or 3.2. Admittedly, I haven't had a ton of time to look at it, but all attempts to find information and guidance on this topic have gone basically unanswered. All docs/suggestions that I've found haven't worked. I realize the ATAPI support has been a moving target. I expect that support for the 7200/8200 will fallout eventually. I'd be curious to know if anyone else has had success with these particular drives. Jonathan Bresler recommended I ask about this on freebsd-hardware so I'm CC'ing this there too. I appreciate any info anyone may have. Thanks. Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jun 10 6:25:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from pop3-3.enteract.com (pop3-3.enteract.com [207.229.143.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 713FA1524E for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 06:25:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jrs@enteract.com) Received: (qmail 54984 invoked from network); 10 Jun 1999 13:25:13 -0000 Received: from adam.enteract.com (jrs@206.54.252.1) by pop3-3.enteract.com with SMTP; 10 Jun 1999 13:25:13 -0000 Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:25:11 -0500 (CDT) From: John Sconiers To: Brian Sletten Cc: Richard Kiss , tanizaki@excite.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: burning a cd In-Reply-To: <375FB5CF.430953BB@nova.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >Can anyone point me towards some good documentation on how to burn a cd-rom > >with a HP 7200 cd-writer (ide) on 3.1 stable? problems with the sertup or software. have you tried xcdroast in Linux mode. JOHN To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jun 10 6:55:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mail.intercom.com (mail.intercom.com [206.98.165.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8380114E8E for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 06:55:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jason@intercom.com) Received: from mail.intercom.com (mail.intercom.com [206.98.165.10]) by mail.intercom.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id JAA27970; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:55:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:55:23 -0400 (EDT) From: "Jason J. Horton" To: Tom Embt Cc: jin@george.lbl.gov, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: P-II vs K6-2 In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990610002132.0097c14c@mail.embt.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > There is a degree of luck involved, but even if the first 300A doesn't > overclock, you could always sell it at a reduced price, buy a new one which > probably will overclock, and still be cheaper than a 433 or 466. Truth > is.. some just OC better than others. A friend's 300A will not even boot > Windows at 450MHz/2.3v. I'm sitting next to one that runs great at > 464MHz/2.1v. I've heard tales of PPGA 300A's that run flawlessly at > 504MHz/1.85v!! Note that normal is 2.0v, but the person in question > reduced it for "cooling purposes". Does anyone know if the socket 370 Celeron 300a overclocks as well as it's Slot1 sibling? This would be great, especially with the new Abit BP6(??) dual socket 370 celeron board. -Jason J. Horton Head Busboy Intercom Online Inc. 212.378.2202 | http://www.intercom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jun 10 7: 5:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from pop05.iname.net (pop05.iname.net [165.251.8.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD58014E8E; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:05:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jschwab@royal.net) Received: from freaker (usr15-dialup78.mix1.Irving.cw.net [166.62.215.80]) by pop05.iname.net (8.9.0/8.8.0) with SMTP id KAA17367; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:05:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199906101405.KAA17367@pop05.iname.net> X-Sender: lb012226@mail.iname.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0 Demo Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 08:03:43 -0600 To: Brian Sletten , Richard Kiss From: "Jason L. Schwab" Subject: Re: burning a cd Cc: tanizaki@excite.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <375FB5CF.430953BB@nova.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear People, I have burned several cd under freebsd using that burndata script. I have an Mitsumi IDE 4x CDR.. it works great under freebsd... you need to use acdXc instead of wcdXc to use your burner for burning. like so: make the image file to burn with mkisofs ... for this i'll call it image.img % cd /usr/share/examples/atapi % sh burndata acd1c image.img it'll go thro and burn the cd. it works great. let me know if you can't get it to work! -- cya At 08:55 AM 6/10/99 -0400, Brian Sletten wrote: >>Can anyone point me towards some good documentation on how to burn a cd-rom >>with a HP 7200 cd-writer (ide) on 3.1 stable? >> >> >>Thanks, >> >>Matt Stacker > >Please post any information you may find, Matt/Richard. When I bought my >machine from a company that builds FreeBSD machines, they asked me if I >wanted a CD-RW. The one they were selling was an HP 8200i. I asked if it >worked w/ FreeBSD and was told that it did. Quite distressingly, it did >not. I have yet to burn a CD w/ this device under 2.2.8, 3.0.X, 3.1, or >3.2. > >Admittedly, I haven't had a ton of time to look at it, but all attempts >to find information and guidance on this topic have gone basically >unanswered. All docs/suggestions that I've found haven't worked. I >realize the ATAPI support has been a moving target. I expect that >support for the 7200/8200 will fallout eventually. I'd be curious to >know if anyone else has had success with these particular drives. > >Jonathan Bresler recommended I ask about this on freebsd-hardware so I'm >CC'ing this there too. > >I appreciate any info anyone may have. > >Thanks. > >Brian > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jun 10 7:54:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from neutron.cichlids.com (as10-040.rp-plus.de [149.221.236.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC1F4153CE; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 07:54:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@cichlids.com) Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA71050; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:48:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex@cichlids.com) Received: (from alex@localhost) by cichlids.cichlids.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA02675; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:48:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alex) From: Alexander Langer Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 16:48:33 +0200 To: "Jason L. Schwab" Cc: Brian Sletten , Richard Kiss , tanizaki@excite.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: burning a cd Message-ID: <19990610164833.C2591@cichlids.cichlids.com> References: <375FB5CF.430953BB@nova.org> <199906101405.KAA17367@pop05.iname.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <199906101405.KAA17367@pop05.iname.net> X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake Jason L. Schwab (jschwab@royal.net): > under freebsd... you need to use acdXc instead of wcdXc to use your burner > for burning. like so: No, you don't have to. Alex -- ************** I doubt, therefore I might be. ************** *** Send email to to get PGP-Key *** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jun 10 9:20:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from uswgco3.uswc.uswest.com (uswgco3.uswest.com [209.54.108.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75495153AC for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:20:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mmeola@ima2wk6.uswc.uswest.com) Received: from egate.mnet.uswest.com (mailgate.uswc.uswest.com [151.119.130.8]) by uswgco3.uswc.uswest.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA15900; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:20:48 -0600 (MDT) Received: from smokey.uswc.uswest.com (smokey.uswc.uswest.com [151.119.16.10]) by egate.mnet.uswest.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA06986; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:20:45 -0600 (MDT) Received: from ima2wk6.uswc.uswest.com (ima2wk6.uswc.uswest.com [151.116.151.207]) by smokey.uswc.uswest.com (8.6.11/uswc-hub.950320) with ESMTP id KAA11689; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:16:15 -0600 Received: from ima2wk6.uswc.uswest.com (localhost.uswc.uswest.com [127.0.0.1]) by ima2wk6.uswc.uswest.com (8.6.11/uswc-server.950313) with ESMTP id KAA08115; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:16:14 -0600 Message-Id: <199906101616.KAA08115@ima2wk6.uswc.uswest.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.3 3/22/99 From: Matt Meola To: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk) Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: liquid cooling a motherboard? In-Reply-To: <199906092255.MAA13633@pegasus.com> References: <199906092255.MAA13633@pegasus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 10:16:13 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > } On Wed, 9 Jun 1999, Matt Meola wrote: > } > } :Not too long ago, I saw a link which pointed one to a web page where a > } :guy had immersed his motherboard in mineral oil, and recycled the oil > } :over a cooling unit [...] > > Why? > > Is this to push the speed envelope or just to keep things well lubricated? :-) Perhaps both? BTW, thanks for all the responses...! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Jun 10 11:57:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from atlrel2.hp.com (atlrel2.hp.com [156.153.255.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE68414ED0 for ; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:57:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from darrylo@sr.hp.com) Received: from srmail.sr.hp.com (srmail.sr.hp.com [15.4.45.14]) by atlrel2.hp.com (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.5tis) with ESMTP id OAA21444; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 14:56:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mina.sr.hp.com by srmail.sr.hp.com with ESMTP (1.37.109.16/15.5+ECS 3.3) id AA285711006; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:56:46 -0700 Received: from localhost (darrylo@mina.sr.hp.com [15.4.42.247]) by mina.sr.hp.com with ESMTP (8.8.6 (PHNE_14041)/8.7.3 TIS 5.0) id LAA03730; Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:56:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199906101856.LAA03730@mina.sr.hp.com> To: "Jason J. Horton" Cc: Tom Embt , jin@george.lbl.gov, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: P-II vs K6-2 Reply-To: Darryl Okahata In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:55:23 EDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 1.1.1.1) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 11:56:45 -0700 From: Darryl Okahata Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Jason J. Horton" wrote: > Does anyone know if the socket 370 Celeron 300a overclocks as well as it's > Slot1 sibling? This would be great, especially with the new Abit BP6(??) > dual socket 370 celeron board. From the postings I've seen on the net, the S370 300A has a greater success rate than the slot 1 300A. Note, however, that dual Celerons only make sense if you overclock, now that the prices of PIIs are dropping. If you don't overclock, it's probably worthwhile to spend a little extra to get PIIs. The reason is that CPUs in an SMP system have to contend with each other for memory bandwidth, and the smaller 128K Celeron cache may cause memory contention to occur more often, which may offset any advantage from the zero-wait cache. This is especially true if you don't overclock, as the non-overclocked Celerons will be using a 66MHz FSB, as opposed to the 100MHz FSB of PIIs (350MHz & up). -- Darryl Okahata darrylo@sr.hp.com DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Hewlett-Packard, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jun 11 3:17:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.netvision.net.il (alpha.netvision.net.il [194.90.1.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CF0B1539A for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 03:16:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spud@i.am) Received: from Tomer.DrugsAreGood.org (RAS8-p75.hfa.netvision.net.il [62.0.149.203]) by alpha.netvision.net.il (8.9.3/8.8.6) with SMTP id NAA24325 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 13:16:48 +0300 (IDT) From: Tomer Weller To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: SB Live Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:55:57 +0300 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99061112592500.00336@Tomer.DrugsAreGood.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i'm getting a whole new computer, and except for Office, i use mainly FreeBSD on my PC, that does not mean i dont need good sound quality ! is there any point of getting SB Live ? any chance of it being useable in FreeBSD ? P.S what graphics cards do you recommend to use (2d,3d, all the shit) ? (Money is NOT an issue) ====================================== Tomer Weller spud@i.am wellers@netvision.net.il "Drugs are good, and if you do'em pepole think that you're cool", NoFX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jun 11 4:30:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.netvision.net.il (alpha.netvision.net.il [194.90.1.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D110154F5; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 04:30:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spud@i.am) Received: from Tomer.DrugsAreGood.org (RAS2-p96.hfa.netvision.net.il [62.0.145.224]) by alpha.netvision.net.il (8.9.3/8.8.6) with SMTP id OAA15583; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:28:46 +0300 (IDT) From: Tomer Weller To: support@opensound.com, FreeBSD Current , FreeBSD Hardware Subject: OSS Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:04:38 +0300 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99061114112600.00424@Tomer.DrugsAreGood.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i get this error when i try to load soundconf, soundon, soundoff : link_elf: symbol cdevsw_module_handler undefined Failed to load the OSS driver module. Check that it is not already loaded. uname -a : FreeBSD Tomer.DrugsAreGood.org 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #10: Fri Jun 11 13:51:50 IDT 1999 Spud@Tomer.DrugsAreGood.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/CURRENT i386 ====================================== Tomer Weller spud@i.am wellers@netvision.net.il "Drugs are good, and if you do'em pepole think that you're cool", NoFX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Jun 11 19: 3:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mail001.mediacity.com (mail001.mediacity.com [205.216.172.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AF9C715208 for ; Fri, 11 Jun 1999 19:03:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@trippcourt.com) Received: (qmail 21945 invoked from network); 12 Jun 1999 02:03:12 -0000 Received: from s20521617551.subnet.mv104.mediacity.com (HELO ?205.216.175.51?) (205.216.175.51) by mail001.mediacity.com with SMTP; 12 Jun 1999 02:03:12 -0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express for Macintosh - 4.01 (295) Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 19:08:47 -0700 Subject: XF86Config needed for Compaq Presario FP700 From: "Mark Bowles" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19990612020320.AF9C715208@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings, all. First posting; apologies if I've overlooked the obvious; be kind :-). I am running FreeBSD 3.1 on a Compaq Presario 5284 with a flat-panel display, model FP700. I've tried for a day or so to generate a configuration for X on this display, and all I've managed to do is convince myself that indeed a person *can* fry a monitor by getting it wrong :-). Anybody got the appropriate file? Please reply to me directly, as well as to the list, as I am unable to monitor the mailing list actively. Thanks, Mark Bowles Acacia Technology Woodside, California To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Jun 12 5:41:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5186914F6E for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 05:41:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-3-47.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.134.47]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA26664; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 08:41:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id IAA01645; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 08:43:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 08:43:27 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: jonathan michaels Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cdrom writer Message-ID: <19990612084327.A1400@ipass.net> References: <19990609184457.A22109@caamora.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <19990609184457.A22109@caamora.com.au>; from jonathan michaels on Wed, Jun 09, 1999 at 06:44:57PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org jonathan michaels: |can anyone recommend, or suggest a replacement for the old hp |'cd writer' model 6020, please. I don't know if you have specific requirements beyond that, but I use a Ricoh 6200S. Good driver support in FreeBSD/MSW. Good apps in Win (EZCDCreator, etc.). Works well in FreeBSD; 3.2-RELEASE currently. Burns data and audio CDs; burns CDRs and CDRWs; erases CDRWs. I've done all of this in both OSs except I haven't tried burning audio CDs in FreeBSD. (No need now -- I moved all my old band tapes onto CD months ago.) Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Jun 12 6:18:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from quark.ChrisBowman.com (crbowman.erols.com [209.122.47.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B27E14DE6 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 06:18:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crb@ChrisBowman.com) Received: from fermion (crb@fermion.ChrisBowman.com [10.0.1.2]) by quark.ChrisBowman.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id IAA05176; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 08:18:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from crb@ChrisBowman.com) Message-Id: <199906121318.IAA05176@quark.ChrisBowman.com> X-Sender: crb@quark X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 09:15:58 -0400 To: Randall Hopper From: "Christopher R. Bowman" Subject: Re: cdrom writer Cc: jonathan michaels , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990612084327.A1400@ipass.net> References: <19990609184457.A22109@caamora.com.au> <19990609184457.A22109@caamora.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 08:43 AM 6/12/99 -0400, Randall Hopper wrote: >jonathan michaels: > |can anyone recommend, or suggest a replacement for the old hp > |'cd writer' model 6020, please. > >I don't know if you have specific requirements beyond that, but I use a >Ricoh 6200S. Good driver support in FreeBSD/MSW. Good apps in Win >(EZCDCreator, etc.). Works well in FreeBSD; 3.2-RELEASE currently. > >Burns data and audio CDs; burns CDRs and CDRWs; erases CDRWs. I've done >all of this in both OSs except I haven't tried burning audio CDs in FreeBSD. >(No need now -- I moved all my old band tapes onto CD months ago.) I am curious, how do you burn and erase CDRWs? -------- Christopher R. Bowman crb@ChrisBowman.com http://www.ChrisBowman.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Jun 12 7:23: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9863714DC2 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 07:23:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-5-188.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.134.188]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05521; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 10:23:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id KAA04138; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 10:24:37 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 10:24:37 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: "Christopher R. Bowman" Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cdrom writer Message-ID: <19990612102437.A3684@ipass.net> References: <19990609184457.A22109@caamora.com.au> <19990609184457.A22109@caamora.com.au> <19990612084327.A1400@ipass.net> <199906121318.IAA05176@quark.ChrisBowman.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <199906121318.IAA05176@quark.ChrisBowman.com>; from Christopher R. Bowman on Sat, Jun 12, 1999 at 09:15:58AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Christopher R. Bowman: |At 08:43 AM 6/12/99 -0400, Randall Hopper wrote: |>jonathan michaels: |> |can anyone recommend, or suggest a replacement for the old hp |> |'cd writer' model 6020, please. |> |>I don't know if you have specific requirements beyond that, but I use a |>Ricoh 6200S. Good driver support in FreeBSD/MSW. Good apps in Win |>(EZCDCreator, etc.). Works well in FreeBSD; 3.2-RELEASE currently. |> |>Burns data and audio CDs; burns CDRs and CDRWs; erases CDRWs. I've done |>all of this in both OSs except I haven't tried burning audio CDs in FreeBSD. |>(No need now -- I moved all my old band tapes onto CD months ago.) | |I am curious, how do you burn and erase CDRWs? Well, on a capable writer, you burn them just like CDRs. E.g. to burn an ISO CD image, I use: cdrecord -v -fs=0 speed=2 dev=0,0 /path/iso.img (Double-speed is nice since it only takes 35 min for a full 650MB instead of around 70min.) Then to erase CDRWs: cdrecord -blank=fast OR cdrecord -blank=all Of course you can read these CDRs/CDRWs on your CD-recorder drive. But to keep the wear-and-tear off them except for burning, just pick up a cheap multi-read IDE CD-ROM. This let's you read CDRWs (and CDRs of course) on the cheap drive which is what I typically do. I picked up one of those Digital Research 36X in December (the ones they're practically giving away at Frys, CompUSA, Staples, etc.) It's 36X -- really 9X or so I believe -- but much faster than the 2X read of the burner. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Jun 12 20:49:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from inc.net (mailhost.inc.net [204.95.160.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A14E14C38 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 20:49:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@inc.net) Received: from inc.net (ess.phreak.net [207.250.97.69]) by inc.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA01858 for ; Sat, 12 Jun 1999 22:49:38 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37632C75.CE4232AA@inc.net> Date: Sat, 12 Jun 1999 22:58:45 -0500 From: Steve Kaczkowski Organization: inc.Net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,zh,zh-CN,zh-TW,ja,de,af MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Promise Technologies Ultra/66 HELP! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've been digging through web pages,Usenet archives,mailing list archives, basically everything I can think of and I'm still not having any luck getting my system to 'see' the card. I'm running 3.2 Release on an ASUS P55TP4N with a Promise Technologies Ultra/66 controller (1 disk attached) along with a Adaptec 2940 (boot drive plus 2 other disks which work fine). I've gone through the kernel config and have added what I think I'm suppose to, but when I boot it never finds the card.. See below: Dmesg output: The onboard IDE (Which is disabled): ide_pci0: rev 0x02 on pci0.7.1 I'm assuming this is the Ultra/66 card it can't config: wdreset: error1: 0x6b wdreset: error1: 0x6b wdc2 not found at 0x0 Kernel config: controller wdc2 at isa? port "0" bio irq 11 flags 0xb0ffb0ff disk wd4 at wdc2 drive 0 disk wd5 at wdc2 drive 1 (I've also tried it with controller wdc0 and drives wd0,wd1 with no luck) From what I've read that should do it, but I'll be damned if it works.. :( Any help is appreciated! -- Steve Kaczkowski Time Warner Telecom/inc.Net steve@inc.net (414)908-9012 http://www.inc.net (603)737-9209 Fax To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message