From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon Feb 1 12:46:47 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14019 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 12:46:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA14013 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 12:46:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA17708; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:46:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Mon, 1 Feb 1999 15:46:43 -0500 (EST) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <199902012046.PAA17708@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FTP mirror now available via CVSup Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have configured the cvsup server on xyz.lcs.mit.edu (aka cvsup3.freebsd.org) to allow users to suck over the FTP area as well. Here's a sample supfile which will get you started: ------------------------------------ *default host=xyz.lcs.mit.edu *default base=/usr *default prefix=/home/ftp *default release=ftp *default delete #All three available as ftp-all ftp-FreeBSD ftp-PostgreSQL ftp-XFree86 ------------------------------------ Note that the policy of this mirror operator as to what gets carried: we will only carry one form of a particular resource. Hence, there are no unpacked sources. (To amplify: my FTP area will not carry anything that the CVSup mirror does [on another disk with more space].) -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Mon Feb 1 22:18:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA18061 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:18:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id WAA18055 for ; Mon, 1 Feb 1999 22:18:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from junkmale@pop3.xtra.co.nz) Received: from wocker ([210.55.210.87]) by mta1-rme.xtra.co.nz (InterMail v04.00.02.07 201-227-108) with SMTP id <19990202061851.YUJW682101.mta1-rme@wocker> for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:18:51 +1300 From: "Dan Langille" Organization: The FreeBSD Diary To: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tue, 2 Feb 1999 19:18:54 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: I'm going to try being a mirror Reply-to: junkmale@xtra.co.nz X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990202061851.YUJW682101.mta1-rme@wocker> Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've decided I'd like to try running a mirror site. And see how it goes. The make of cvsup-mirror is running as we speak. I have an ADSL connection, and the nearest other site is Australia. This connection is via DHCP, although my IP has not changed in the 6 months I've had the service. Any suggestions, tips, hints, etc will be appreciated. What hassles can I expect? cheers. -- Dan Langille The FreeBSD Diary http://www.FreeBSDDiary.com/freebsd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Tue Feb 2 14:20:17 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id OAA15130 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:20:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from piglet.dstc.edu.au (piglet.dstc.edu.au [130.102.176.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA15120 for ; Tue, 2 Feb 1999 14:20:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jason@piglet.dstc.edu.au) Received: (from jason@localhost) by piglet.dstc.edu.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) id IAA25194 for hubs@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:20:10 +1000 (EST) From: jason andrade Message-Id: <199902022220.IAA25194@piglet.dstc.edu.au> Subject: Re: I'm going to try being a mirror To: hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:20:09 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: <19990202061851.YUJW682101.mta1-rme@wocker> from "Dan Langille" at Feb 2, 99 07:18:54 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I've decided I'd like to try running a mirror site. And see how it goes. does this mean you don't have to pay for incoming traffic like we do :-) > The make of cvsup-mirror is running as we speak. I have an ADSL > connection, and the nearest other site is Australia. This connection is > via DHCP, although my IP has not changed in the 6 months I've had the > service. > > Any suggestions, tips, hints, etc will be appreciated. What hassles can I > expect? you can mirror from ftp.au.freebsd.org, but i don't currently support CVSup for the ftp area (i'll look at making that available, once i understand cvsup a bit better :-). there are a couple of other sites that do support CVSup for the ftp area, and to be accurate, i guess you'd want to run a final mirror check against ftp.freebsd.org too.. i recommend you put aside at least 10G of disk space if you plan to mirror the whole freebsd tree. if you use `mirror' to mirror freebsd, then i recommend you either have plenty of memory (to deal with perl's memory leakage), or use algorithm=1 in your mirror config file for freebsd. you can also use rsync from ftp.au.freebsd.org lastly, you want to join the various mailing lists as things get announced that would be relevant to you as a mirror (e.g large file shifts, new releases) hassles ? keeping your mirror up to date, having enough disk for a full mirror, understanding how to use mirror, rsync, cvsup, having enough disk space.. cheers, -jason -- jason andrade dstc pty ltd jason@dstc.edu.au senior sysadmin level 7, GPS Building 78 i just wanna be phn +61-7-33654307 university of queensland bluemisty fax +61-7-33654311 queensland 4072 australia and barefooted To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Feb 3 00:57:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA26681 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:57:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA26676 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:57:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca7-112.ix.netcom.com [209.109.235.112]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id AAA00889; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:57:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.1/8.6.9) id AAA16786; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:57:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 00:57:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199902030857.AAA16786@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> To: jdp@polstra.com CC: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from John Polstra on Tue, 02 Feb 1999 19:35:06 -0800 (PST)) Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: cvsup5.FreeBSD.ORG is open for business From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org (Brought over from -announce) * I am happy to announce a new US CVSup mirror site, cvsup5.FreeBSD.ORG. * The site is located in Atlanta, Georgia. Many thanks to Christian * Kuhtz for setting up this valuable service! I've been wondering, would it be feasible to have aliases like "cvsup-georgia" and "ftp-texas" so people can more easily pick the site that's closest to them. Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Feb 3 03:17:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id DAA13884 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 03:17:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from nomad.dataplex.net (nomad.dataplex.net [208.2.87.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id DAA13876; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 03:17:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rkw@dataplex.net) Received: from localhost (rkw@localhost) by nomad.dataplex.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA03834; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 05:16:57 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from rkw@dataplex.net) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 05:16:57 -0600 (CST) From: Richard Wackerbarth To: Satoshi Asami cc: jdp@polstra.com, freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: cvsup5.FreeBSD.ORG is open for business In-Reply-To: <199902030857.AAA16786@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 3 Feb 1999, Satoshi Asami wrote: > * I am happy to announce a new US CVSup mirror site, cvsup5.FreeBSD.ORG. > * The site is located in Atlanta, Georgia. Many thanks to Christian > * Kuhtz for setting up this valuable service! > > I've been wondering, would it be feasible to have aliases like > "cvsup-georgia" and "ftp-texas" so people can more easily pick > the site that's closest to them. Geographically close is NOT the same as topologically close. While it is generally true that domestic sites are "closer" than international sites, I have traceroutes to a site just a few city blocks away. Network traffic from here to there is not too bad. However, the packets manage to visit both the east coast and California before returning to Texas :-( You should also recognize that, although cvsup.FreeBSD.ORG might be only a few miles away from those in the Bay Area, they might still get better service from Atlanta because of server loads. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Feb 3 08:12:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA01894 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:12:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01882; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 08:12:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA24728; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:12:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 11:12:12 -0500 (EST) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <199902031612.LAA24728@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: Richard Wackerbarth Cc: Satoshi Asami , jdp@polstra.com, freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: cvsup5.FreeBSD.ORG is open for business In-Reply-To: References: <199902030857.AAA16786@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org < said: > Geographically close is NOT the same as topologically close. Case in point: so far as I know, my machine (freebsd.lcs.mit.edu aka cvsup3.freebsd.org) is the only vBNS-attached FreeBSD CVSup mirror site. (ftp3.freebsd.org at Virginia Tech is connected to the vBNS, however, if you want an FTP mirror.) The 2000 or so other sites connected to vBNS or CA*netII are MUCH closer to MIT and VT than they are to anyone in the commercial Internet. We also have an ESnet connection so people in DOE labs should also have quick access to these resources. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Feb 3 09:10:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA12418 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:10:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA12377; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:10:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA56807; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 12:10:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) cc: jdp@polstra.com, freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: cvsup5.FreeBSD.ORG is open for business In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Feb 1999 00:57:02 PST." <199902030857.AAA16786@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 12:10:05 -0500 Message-ID: <56801.918061805@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Satoshi Asami wrote in message ID <199902030857.AAA16786@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu>: > I've been wondering, would it be feasible to have aliases like > "cvsup-georgia" and "ftp-texas" so people can more easily pick > the site that's closest to them. Unfortunately geographic locatality has little to do with if its `close' in terms of the Internet :) Anyone want to do something like Cisco's Distributed Director for FreeBSD? :) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Feb 3 09:44:36 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA17718 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:44:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA17712; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:44:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA18719; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:44:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA16953; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:44:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 09:44:31 -0800 (PST) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: Richard Wackerbarth Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: cvsup5.FreeBSD.ORG is open for business Cc: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG, Satoshi Asami Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Richard Wackerbarth wrote: > You should also recognize that, although cvsup.FreeBSD.ORG might be > only a few miles away from those in the Bay Area, they might still > get better service from Atlanta because of server loads. Besides, cvsup.FreeBSD.ORG is in Washington state, about 1000 miles away from the Bay Area. :-) John --- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." -- H. L. Mencken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Feb 3 09:53:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA19196 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:53:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA19180; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:52:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA18768; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:52:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) id JAA16976; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 09:52:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199902030857.AAA16786@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> Date: Wed, 03 Feb 1999 09:52:56 -0800 (PST) Organization: Polstra & Co., Inc. From: John Polstra To: (Satoshi Asami) Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: cvsup5.FreeBSD.ORG is open for business Cc: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Satoshi Asami wrote: > > I've been wondering, would it be feasible to have aliases like > "cvsup-georgia" and "ftp-texas" so people can more easily pick > the site that's closest to them. Probably not. People would still have to look in the Handbook to find out which states had servers at all. E.g., somebody in Ohio couldn't just use "cvsup-ohio", because there isn't one. (Or did you mean we'd have 50 aliases?) F5 Labs (www.f5.com) makes a pretty cool product called 3DNS that would solve the whole problem very nicely. We could have just a single alias "cvsup.FreeBSD.ORG". The 3DNS system would resolve it to the "best" mirror site for each client, based on all kinds of metrics such as RTT between client and server, current server loads, etc. It's slick, but I doubt we could afford it. :-) John --- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "Nobody ever went broke underestimating the taste of the American public." -- H. L. Mencken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Feb 3 13:46:11 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA28817 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:46:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from mersey.nt.tas.gov.au (mersey.nt.tas.gov.au [147.109.247.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA28790; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 13:45:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sdd@ntccc.tas.gov.au) Received: from pc62 (mct4.nettas.telstra.com.au [203.18.120.99] (may be forged)) by mersey.nt.tas.gov.au (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id IAA19583; Thu, 4 Feb 1999 08:34:09 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from sdd@ntccc.tas.gov.au) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990204084338.0105cb80@mersey.nt.tas.gov.au> X-Sender: sdd@mersey.nt.tas.gov.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Thu, 04 Feb 1999 08:43:38 +1100 To: "Gary Palmer" From: Scott Donovan Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: cvsup5.FreeBSD.ORG is open for business Cc: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <56801.918061805@gjp.erols.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Anyone want to do something like Cisco's Distributed Director for FreeBSD? :) Now that would be VERY COOL! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hubs Wed Feb 3 16:34:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA29352 for freebsd-hubs-outgoing; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:34:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from vader.cs.berkeley.edu (vader.CS.Berkeley.EDU [128.32.38.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA29342 for ; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:34:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asami@vader.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: from silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (sji-ca7-112.ix.netcom.com [209.109.235.112]) by vader.cs.berkeley.edu (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id QAA01913; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:34:47 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.1/8.6.9) id QAA24973; Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:34:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 3 Feb 1999 16:34:41 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199902040034.QAA24973@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu> To: jdp@polstra.com CC: freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (message from John Polstra on Wed, 03 Feb 1999 09:52:56 -0800 (PST)) Subject: Re: ANNOUNCE: cvsup5.FreeBSD.ORG is open for business From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi Asami) Sender: owner-freebsd-hubs@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * From: John Polstra * > I've been wondering, would it be feasible to have aliases like * > "cvsup-georgia" and "ftp-texas" so people can more easily pick * > the site that's closest to them. * * Probably not. People would still have to look in the Handbook to find * out which states had servers at all. E.g., somebody in Ohio couldn't Yes, that's what I meant. Right now what we get is a list of numbers, which doesn't serve as anything except a reminder what is the highest numbered site available in your nation. :) * F5 Labs (www.f5.com) makes a pretty cool product called 3DNS that * would solve the whole problem very nicely. We could have just a * single alias "cvsup.FreeBSD.ORG". The 3DNS system would resolve it to * the "best" mirror site for each client, based on all kinds of metrics * such as RTT between client and server, current server loads, etc. * It's slick, but I doubt we could afford it. :-) That would be nice. I know graphical regioning doesn't always work, but won't it at least be a little better than the current "pick any number between 1 and N" method? At least it will make it easier for people to remember which one to use if they go through the trouble to traceroute all sites. :) Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hubs" in the body of the message