From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 25 6:51:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub4.isdnet.net (mailhub4.isdnet.net [195.154.209.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BADE614EE7 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 06:51:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephane@libertysurf.fr) Received: from sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo ([195.154.24.4]) by mailhub4.isdnet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA81873; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 15:51:40 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from stephane@localhost) by sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA02881; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 13:42:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from stephane) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 13:42:09 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199907251142.NAA02881@sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo> From: Stephane Legrand MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Gary D. Margiotta" Cc: Stephane Legrand , Kenneth Karlsson , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Sv: FreeBSD Project looking for a switch In-Reply-To: References: <199907241320.PAA14163@sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 20.3 "Vatican City" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gary D. Margiotta writes: > True, but that requires everyone to know about freebsdmall (granted, > everyone should, but... ;) )... > Yes, freebsdmall is unfortunately not known enough. > Howsabout a 'Donation subscription'?... I know personally I wouldn't mind > having a card billed, say $5 or $10 a month, or maybe $25 quarterly. > It's possible. At freebsdmall, you can also make this kind of donation. > Buying a subscription for the CD-ROMS is nice, however, it costs a lot in > time and material to make all of that, so the profit margin is very slim. > > The people who make FBSD work are donating a heckuva lot of their time and > resources for us all to be able to benefit from it. I think it's the > least we could do to offer what amounts to not even 15 minutes pay for > some of us on a consistent basis in order to keep this great project going > and working to be the best OS out there... > > Get even $1 from a thousand people per month (and I think that is only a > small fraction of how many people use it), and it suddenly turns into a > bigger chunk of change than you think... > > ______________________________________________________________ > -Gary Margiotta Voice: (973) 835-7855 > TBE Internet Services Fax: (973) 835-4755 > http://www.tbe.net E-Mail: gary@tbe.net > > On Sat, 24 Jul 1999, Stephane Legrand wrote: > > > Kenneth Karlsson writes: > > > > > > Why not make an online fundraising, with creditcard billing, i > > > would like to donate some $10, if that could help ... Maybe Walnut > > > Creek could help out here ?! > > > > > > > Go to http://www.freebsdmall.com/ and follow the link "Donate". > > > > Stephane Legrand. > > > -- Stephane.Legrand@bigfoot.com FreeBSD Francophone : http://www.freebsd-fr.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 25 10:35:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from stingray.ivision.co.uk (avengers.ivision.co.uk [195.50.91.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB62215224 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 10:35:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from manar@ivision.co.uk) Received: from pretender.ivision.co.uk ([195.50.91.43] helo=pretender) by stingray.ivision.co.uk with smtp (Exim 2.04 #1) id 118S4e-0004lO-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 18:28:32 +0100 Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990725183907.0093db30@stingray.ivision.co.uk> X-Sender: manarpop@stingray.ivision.co.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 18:39:07 +0100 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Manar Hussain Subject: Re: Sv: FreeBSD Project looking for a switch In-Reply-To: <199907241320.PAA14163@sequoia.mondomaineamoi.megalo> References: <001f01bed5ba$ad25edd0$0a69a8c0@combo.dk> <199907221930.MAA01525@dingo.cdrom.com> <001f01bed5ba$ad25edd0$0a69a8c0@combo.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Why not make an online fundraising, with creditcard billing, i > > would like to donate some $10, if that could help ... Maybe Walnut > > Creek could help out here ?! > > > >Go to http://www.freebsdmall.com/ and follow the link "Donate". Being able to donate towards a particular named item is likely to generate more donations ... and be an acceptable excuse to send out a moderated amount of email requests. Manar -- Manar Hussain, Director Email: manar@ivision.co.uk Mobile: (07971) 277821 Internet Vision Tel: 0171 589 4500 60 Albert Court Fax: 0171 589 4522 Prince Consort Road info@ivision.co.uk London. SW7 2BE http://www.ivision.co.uk/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 25 16:54:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from office.omc.net (office.omc.net [195.185.142.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF9814BD8 for ; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 16:54:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from LutzRab@omc.net) Received: from lutz (lutz.omc.net [195.185.142.3]) by office.omc.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA07136 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 01:53:19 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199907252353.BAA07136@office.omc.net> From: "Lutz Rabing" Organization: OMCnet IS GmbH To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 01:53:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Sv: FreeBSD Project looking for a switch Reply-To: LutzRab@omc.net In-reply-to: <199907241603.SAA23678@noses.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Why not make an online fundraising, with creditcard billing, i would like > > to donate some $10, if that could help ... Maybe Walnut Creek could help > > out here ?! > > > Kenneth Karlsson - Denmark > > They did that already: Order the product "BSDDONATE" at any reasonable price > you'd like. If there are any problems you might ask Jordan for help... > We run quite a few WWW-boxes and are REALLY satisfied with the FreeBSD! Since FreeBSD is the foundation of our business, we just ordered "BSDDONATE" on a monthly basis. I think all of us (ISP's using FreeBSD) should support the project and not just using it for our needs. It would be sad if FreeBSD was getting behind Linux as it already is in some areas. Lutz Rabing -OMCnet Internet Service GmbH- -Germany- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 25 20:32:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cagsawa.cats.edu.ph (cagsawa.cats.edu.ph [203.172.25.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FEDB14FF8; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 20:31:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dune@cats.edu.ph) Received: from mayon.cats.edu.ph (mayon.cats.edu.ph [203.172.25.131]) by cagsawa.cats.edu.ph (Postfix) with SMTP id 96F9DB8A1; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:31:48 +0800 (PHT) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:46:23 +0800 (PHT) From: "Francis Percival C. Favoreal" To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: divert Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Forgive me if this sound like a stupid question. I have been using DIVERT for some time now but never been concerned if DIVERT can work if there is only 1 NIC. I would just like to be enlightened if this is possible or if this is ridiculous. What I had in mind is two networks coexisting in one physical network. One network has registered IPs and the other one is a private network with unregistered IPS. The former has no problem communicating with the outside world. For the latter network, I have to use natd. Having just 1 physical network, I thought of having the latter network route their packets to a host running natd but with just one network interface. The host have this divert rule, divert 8668 ip from any to any I hope I provided sufficient details. Thank you in advance. -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jul 25 22:26:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from snafu.adept.org (adsl-63-193-112-19.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.112.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F05E115290; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 22:26:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@snafu.adept.org) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by snafu.adept.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA25298; Sun, 25 Jul 1999 22:23:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 25 Jul 1999 22:23:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hoskins To: "Francis Percival C. Favoreal" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: divert In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Francis Percival C. Favoreal wrote: > What I had in mind is two networks coexisting in one physical network. Like a dummynet tunnel within a public network? Hmm... never done/seen anything like this - what would be the advantages? It's not any more 'robust' (if a NIC fails, a host still has no other entrance). It's not particularly secure (the public network allows outside access to each host). Perhaps you would encrypt the dummynet tunnel for some sort of internal, private communication? Mike Hoskins mike@adept.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 26 2:33:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02E7414BD8; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 02:33:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1939B11; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:32:45 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <379C2B8E.C4599924@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:34:06 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Francis Percival C. Favoreal" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: divert References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > What I had in mind is two networks coexisting in one physical > network. One network has registered IPs and the other one is a > private network with unregistered IPS. Have you found the unregistered_only option in natd? It sounds like it would probably be suitable. Cheers Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 26 7:58:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com (pau-amma.whistle.com [207.76.205.64]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98AE514E95 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 07:58:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id HAA78007; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 07:57:08 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 07:57:08 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <199907261457.HAA78007@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: brian.scott@slipmat.net, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Autoloading Tape Drives In-Reply-To: <37978542.1F4ADFC9@slipmat.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Date: Thu, 22 Jul 1999 15:55:30 -0500 >From: Brian Scott >Can anyone recommend any autoloading tape drives that they've had >success with? I have about 15 gigs that need backed up nightly. Since about 10 months ago, we've been using an ADIC FastStor DLT 4000 -- it's a (Quantum) DLT 4000 drive (20 GB native; 40 GB assuming 50% compression) in a cabinet that holds a 7-slot autoloader. It's been fairly good; the negative things that occur to me (in no particular order): * First unit received had a firmware bug/misfeature: if the unit lost power, it was necessary to manually press the "power" switch to turn it on. (That is, it didn't recall the state of the power switch across power cycles.) This came to light when we had a power outage several months ago, thanks to interesting human error in setting up the UPS. To ADIC's credit, they agreed that this was a bug, and RMAd the unit. However, the replacement that arrived ahd the same problem. :-( It would have been Real Nice if there had been some way to field-upgrade the firmware. (2nd unit was RMAd, as well; 3rd try worked better.) * That is, the 3rd one worked better until about a month ago: something happened over a weekend, and the drive refused to disgorge one of the cartridges. Camee in on a Saturday morning to try to make it eject; no go. Called support, went through the stuff I had already done; she finally instructed me (over the phone) on how to disassemble the unit enough to manually eject the cartridge. That process seems to have worked, without apparent damage to the cartdridges. (At her suggestion, I checked each cartridge to ensure that its leader was intact. Each was.) However, again, the whole unit needed to be RMAd -- couldn't just swap the drive. * The drive -- and this is probably a Quantum issue -- doesn't seem to have a way to mechanically force it to "don't ever try to do your own compression" mode. There may well be a SCSI command to do this, but I've had higher-priority issues to deal with, so this one's priority has suffered. Vaguely related to this: when a cartridge is loaded, the drive needs to scan a chunk of tape to "calibrate" the drive (so that if the tape is written comressed, it says that way, I suppose). This takes a while. * The firmware (and the raised numerals on the sides of the slots) refer to the slots as "1 -7". This is counter-intuitive to me; I'd expect (and prefer) to work with the range 0-6. FWIW, I'm using amanda as the software to control the thing. At the time we were deploying it, I wasn't aware of an amanda "changer script" that would drive it, so I cobbled one up (that uses Jason Thorpe's "chio" driver). Since then, a "real" changer script has been distributed with amanda, so no one else needs to be at the mercy of what I cobbled up. Hope this is useful, david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com UNIX System Administrator voice: (650) 577-7158 pager: (888) 347-0197 FAX: (650) 372-5915 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 26 8: 4:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cobia.gulf.net (cobia.corp.gulf.net [206.105.61.192]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52CE114E95; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 08:04:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phill@cobia.gulf.net) Received: from localhost (phill@localhost) by cobia.gulf.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA00637; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:04:38 -0500 (CDT) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 10:04:37 -0500 (CDT) From: Phillip Salzman To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: RAID controllers Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I'm planning on deploying a massive squid cache in combination with the SkyCache satellite downlink. For this we decided that a RAID-5 system would be almost completely necessary. After looking at the DPT SmartRAID IV controller, we were going to purchase the PM3334UDW (low voltage differential). Oddly enough, DPT is no longer offering this controller. They seem to still have the regular PM3334UW, and the newer SmartRAID V. Does anyone know of a place that may still have the PM3334UDW in stock, or know the current status of the drivers for the SmartRAID V? I'd really really hate to be forced to install the alternative on the squid cache, Redtie, because of support reasons. Thanks in advance! --- Phillip Salzman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 26 11:19:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from lily.ezo.net (lily.ezo.net [206.102.130.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F21514F4C; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:19:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jflowers@ezo.net) Received: from lily.ezo.net (jflowers@localhost.ezo.net [127.0.0.1]) by lily.ezo.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA11945; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:19:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:19:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Flowers To: "Francis Percival C. Favoreal" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: divert In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Not sure I understand the whole question but with freebsd you can bind additional aliases to the single interface to be able to talk to two subnets. Works great. Jim Flowers #4 ISP on C|NET, #1 in Ohio On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Francis Percival C. Favoreal wrote: > > > Forgive me if this sound like a stupid question. > > I have been using DIVERT for some time now but never been concerned if > DIVERT can work if there is only 1 NIC. I would just like to be > enlightened if this is possible or if this is ridiculous. > > What I had in mind is two networks coexisting in one physical network. > One network has registered IPs and the other one is a private network with > unregistered IPS. The former has no problem communicating with the outside > world. For the latter network, I have to use natd. Having just 1 physical > network, I thought of having the latter network route their packets to a > host running natd but with just one network interface. The host have this > divert rule, > > divert 8668 ip from any to any > > I hope I provided sufficient details. > > Thank you in advance. > > > -- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 26 11:48:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from amber.eaznet.com (amber.eaznet.com [216.19.20.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 756A114BDC for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:48:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eddie@eaznet.com) Received: from eaznet.com (admin.eaznet.com [216.19.20.16]) by amber.eaznet.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA22553; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:54:14 -0700 (MST) Message-ID: <379CAD24.9285F233@eaznet.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 11:47:01 -0700 From: Eddie - EAZNet Internet Services Reply-To: eddie@eaznet.com Organization: EAZNet Internet Services, Safford, AZ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-CCK-MCD (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Phillip Salzman Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RAID controllers References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Phillip, In talking with other SkyCache users, and myself included, it's collective opinion that RAID-5 doesn't help in a Squid Proxy setup. The # of drives and channels has much more of an effect than RAID does. In my opinion, you should probably spend more money on drives and channels than using RAID. my $.02, Eddie Phillip Salzman wrote: > Hello, > > I'm planning on deploying a massive squid cache in combination with > the SkyCache satellite downlink. For this we decided that a RAID-5 > system would be almost completely necessary. > > After looking at the DPT SmartRAID IV controller, we were going to > purchase the PM3334UDW (low voltage differential). Oddly enough, DPT > is no longer offering this controller. They seem to still have the > regular PM3334UW, and the newer SmartRAID V. > > Does anyone know of a place that may still have the PM3334UDW in stock, > or know the current status of the drivers for the SmartRAID V? I'd > really really hate to be forced to install the alternative on the squid > cache, Redtie, because of support reasons. > > Thanks in advance! > > --- > Phillip Salzman > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- Eddie Fry eddie@eaznet.com EAZNet Internet Services 220 West 7th Street Safford, AZ 85546 (520) 348-0292 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 26 14:22:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gateway.cybernet.com (gateway.cybernet.com [192.245.33.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882E614CE2; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:22:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mtaylor@cybernet.com) Received: from spiffy.cybernet.com (spiffy.cybernet.com [192.245.33.55]) by gateway.cybernet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA16381; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:21:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mtaylor@cybernet.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:25:23 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: mtaylor@cybernet.com Organization: Cybernet Systems From: "Mark J. Taylor" To: Phillip Salzman Subject: RE: RAID controllers Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The SmartRaid IV is supported under FreeBSD, and the V is not. We've tried them both under both FreeBSD 2.2.8 and 3.2. (I think that DPT provides a RPM for their SmartRaid V card for Linux.) There is an "open issue" with the IV: put in the Cache/RAID5 controller module (necessary to do RAID), and your performance DROPS TO NEARLY 220 kbytes/sec read performance. Ick. We tried the SmartRaid IV on several different machines, with different SCSI hard drives, same result: when you put in the Cache/RAID5 module, the performance really drops. From what I've gathered, the problem may be in the IRQ generation: the controller generates about 1 IRQ per second during read operations ('systat -vm 1'), which means that the driver is either in poll mode, or the hardware is 'broken'. We've been in contact with DPT (last week, as a matter of fact) regarding this. They know about it, and don't have a work- around. -Mark Taylor NetMAX Developer mtaylor@cybernet.com FreeBSD 3.2 based NetMAX is now available! Linux 2.0.37/RedHat 5.2 based NetMAX is now available! http://www.netmax.com/ On 26-Jul-99 Phillip Salzman wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm planning on deploying a massive squid cache in combination with > the SkyCache satellite downlink. For this we decided that a RAID-5 > system would be almost completely necessary. > > After looking at the DPT SmartRAID IV controller, we were going to > purchase the PM3334UDW (low voltage differential). Oddly enough, DPT > is no longer offering this controller. They seem to still have the > regular PM3334UW, and the newer SmartRAID V. > > Does anyone know of a place that may still have the PM3334UDW in stock, > or know the current status of the drivers for the SmartRAID V? I'd > really really hate to be forced to install the alternative on the squid > cache, Redtie, because of support reasons. > > Thanks in advance! > > --- > Phillip Salzman > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 26 14:39:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ABB61510F for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 14:39:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id E411D9B07 for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:39:10 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <379CD5CF.FB60F6FA@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:40:31 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RAID controllers References: <379CAD24.9285F233@eaznet.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > In talking with other SkyCache users, and myself included, it's > collective opinion that RAID-5 doesn't help in a Squid Proxy setup. the opposite, in fact. if your raid requires a reboot to change config, it's less flexible than CAM with hotswap bays, and raid5 slows down writes (of which you have many more than you do reads). > The # of drives and channels has much more of an effect than RAID > does. In my opinion, you should probably spend more money on drives > and channels than using RAID. ...and RAM, squid from ramdisk _flies_ :-) Anyone here tried Peregrine yet? Any comments? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jul 26 17:59:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from chain.freebsd.os.org.za (chain.freebsd.os.org.za [196.7.74.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4EC01503B for ; Mon, 26 Jul 1999 17:59:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khetan@chain.freebsd.os.org.za) X-Disclaimer: Contents of this e-mail are the writer's opinion X-Disclaimer2: and may not be quoted, re-produced or forwarded X-Disclaimer3: (in part or whole) without the author's permission. Received: from localhost (khetan@localhost) by chain.freebsd.os.org.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA31215; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 02:59:06 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from khetan@chain.freebsd.os.org.za) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 02:59:06 +0200 (SAST) From: Khetan Gajjar Reply-To: Khetan Gajjar To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Enterprise-class backup solution ? Message-ID: X-Mobile: +27 82 9907663 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi. I'm researching a enterprise-class backup solution for an organisation, that REQUIRES backup clients/agents, if not servers, for Solaris, Linux, NT and FreeBSD. Why am I sending this to isp@freebsd.org ? Almost every backup solution covers Linux, Solaris and NT, but few cover FreeBSD that also cover the other three. I know Legato does, and so far, it's the only product I've come across (Arcserve doesn't appear to have FreeBSD or Linux support). Is anyone using Legato or some other commercial backup solution, and found it to work reliably ? PS. I am aware of Amanda, BRU and the possibility of NFS mounting / Samba mounting partitions. This is not really an option. --- Khetan Gajjar (!kg1779) * khetan@os.org.za http://khetan.os.org.za/ * Talk/Finger khetan@khetan.os.org.za FreeBSD enthusiast * http://www2.za.freebsd.org/ Stupidest quote heard : Who is this BSD, and why should we free him ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 27 6:43:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tardis.patho.gen.nz (tardis.patho.gen.nz [203.97.2.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4925A14FD9 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 06:43:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jabley@tardis.patho.gen.nz) Received: (from jabley@localhost) by tardis.patho.gen.nz (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA11129 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 01:43:05 +1200 (NZST) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 01:43:00 +1200 From: Joe Abley To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: coda Message-ID: <19990728014259.A6383@patho.gen.nz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i X-Files: the Truth is Out There Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have a requirement for a cheap, yet highly reliable back-end network filesystem for a project that's coming up. In previous lives I have dealt with such requirements using NetApp filer clusters with FCAL-attached disk; however, this is Not A Cheap Solution (although it does have many other advantages). However, I have just read through the coda docs, and have started to drool :) I have a picture in my mind of various back-end machines with (say) small piles of SCSI disks in them all contributing to a coda filesystem, arranged with volume replication such that any individual machine can be pulled from the array without noticably hurting the clients. Is anybody using coda in a real world environment? With FreeBSD 3.2 clients and servers? How would you rate the performance? As a benchmark only, would you ever (in your wildest dreams :) consider running a production news server with its article store on a coda filesystem? How about something with way more reads than writes, like a farm of web servers? How stable is coda in it's current form in -STABLE? Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 27 8:27:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.cioe.com (ns1.cioe.com [204.120.165.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADAA715189 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 08:22:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@ns1.cioe.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by ns1.cioe.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA31267; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:22:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:22:19 -0500 (EST) From: Steve Ames Message-Id: <199907271522.KAA31267@ns1.cioe.com> To: LutzRab@omc.net Subject: Re: Sv: FreeBSD Project looking for a switch Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199907252353.BAA07136@office.omc.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Since FreeBSD is the foundation of our business, we just ordered "BSDDONATE" > on a monthly basis. > > I think all of us (ISP's using FreeBSD) should support the project and not > just using it for our needs. I thought subscribing to the CDs _IS_ a form of donation... since most of us really have no need of CDs really, just something tangeble to show to our bosses and controllers. I've convinced my company to subscribe to every version of FreeBSD for the last couple of years. Subscribed to snapshots when they were available. Its hard to convince the corporate types to _donate_. -Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 27 9:35:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from anna.cs.ru.lv (anna.cs.ru.lv [159.148.235.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B51614DB7 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:35:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vic@cs.ru.lv) Received: from localhost (vic@localhost) by anna.cs.ru.lv (8.8.8/X.Y.Z) with ESMTP id TAA28087 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:34:24 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:34:17 +0300 (EET DST) From: Victor Meirans To: FreeBSD ISP Mailing list Subject: URGENT. Upgrade failed. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Things have gone crazy here, and I need your advice ASAP. I did the upgrade 3.0-RELEASE to 3.2-RELEASE procedure from /stand/sysinstall. It went OK, bu after reboot the new kernel failed to load, saying "incorrect format" I can boot up with old one, but nothing works normally then. Have I done smth wrong? I tried to compile new kerrnel, but got the same error message at boot. Please reply directly to vic@ru.lv, this address is not on the list. Thank you. ---> Vic <--- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 27 9:57:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cobia.gulf.net (cobia.corp.gulf.net [206.105.61.192]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B30B151F1 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 09:57:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phill@cobia.gulf.net) Received: from localhost (phill@localhost) by cobia.gulf.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA00716; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:58:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:58:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Phillip Salzman To: Victor Meirans Cc: FreeBSD ISP Mailing list Subject: Re: URGENT. Upgrade failed. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Login with the old kernel, then type "disklabel -B " -- Phillip Salzman On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Victor Meirans wrote: > Hello, > Things have gone crazy here, and I need your advice ASAP. > > I did the upgrade 3.0-RELEASE to 3.2-RELEASE procedure from > /stand/sysinstall. It went OK, bu after reboot the new kernel failed to > load, saying "incorrect format" I can boot up with old one, but nothing > works normally then. Have I done smth wrong? I tried to compile new > kerrnel, but got the same error message at boot. > > Please reply directly to vic@ru.lv, this address is not on the list. > > Thank you. > > ---> Vic <--- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 27 10:51:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from freesbee.t.dk (freesbee.t.dk [193.162.159.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0A03314D91 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:51:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesper@freesbee.t.dk) Received: (qmail 17305 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Jul 1999 17:51:15 -0000 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:51:15 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver To: Khetan Gajjar Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Enterprise-class backup solution ? Message-ID: <19990727195115.A17180@skriver.dk> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Khetan Gajjar on Tue, Jul 27, 1999 at 02:59:06AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jul 27, 1999 at 02:59:06AM +0200, Khetan Gajjar wrote: > Is anyone using Legato or some other commercial backup solution, and > found it to work reliably ? We use Legato Networker 5.5 here, Solaris server, and FreeBSD, Linux, Solaris, AIX and NT clients. Works like a charm, that is, we havn't had any problems with it. /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver (JS4261-RIPE), Network manager Tele Danmark DataNet, IP section (AS3292) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 27 10:53:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from anna.cs.ru.lv (anna.cs.ru.lv [159.148.235.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 274AF14D91 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 10:53:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vic@cs.ru.lv) Received: from localhost (vic@localhost) by anna.cs.ru.lv (8.8.8/X.Y.Z) with ESMTP id UAA28312; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 20:53:05 +0300 (EET DST) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 20:53:01 +0300 (EET DST) From: Victor Meirans To: Phillip Salzman Cc: FreeBSD ISP Mailing list Subject: Re: URGENT. Upgrade failed. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ufff... thank you. Now it boots fine.. What other things I should check out and pay attention to? Thank you very much again... ---> Vic <--- On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Phillip Salzman wrote: > > Login with the old kernel, then type "disklabel -B " > > -- > Phillip Salzman > > > On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Victor Meirans wrote: > > > Hello, > > Things have gone crazy here, and I need your advice ASAP. > > > > I did the upgrade 3.0-RELEASE to 3.2-RELEASE procedure from > > /stand/sysinstall. It went OK, bu after reboot the new kernel failed to > > load, saying "incorrect format" I can boot up with old one, but nothing > > works normally then. Have I done smth wrong? I tried to compile new > > kerrnel, but got the same error message at boot. > > > > Please reply directly to vic@ru.lv, this address is not on the list. > > > > Thank you. > > > > ---> Vic <--- > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 27 11:13:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2581514DA4 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 11:13:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id E45479B14; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:13:12 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <379DF709.558AC5E6@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:14:33 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Victor Meirans Cc: Phillip Salzman , FreeBSD ISP Mailing list Subject: Re: URGENT. Upgrade failed. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > What other things I should check out and pay attention to? Things of particular interest are mentioned in the UPDATING file in the cvs repository. The file also has v4 (-current) information in there so you will need to keep your wits about you to work out what is what :-) (this gives a nice insight into some of the things that are happening in current if you aren't tracking it too closely which can be interesting reading). You can retrieve it from cvsweb: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/UPDATING?rev=. FreeBSD-questions is probably a better mailing list to ask about things like this which aren't really isp-specific, as it is read by people with a broader range of viewpoints :-) Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 27 12:10:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from elara.frii.com (elara.frii.com [216.17.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11FE114BFF for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:10:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jott@frii.net) Received: from localhost (jott@localhost) by elara.frii.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA55712 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:08:43 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: elara.frii.com: jott owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:08:43 -0600 (MDT) From: Jake Ott X-Sender: jott@elara.frii.com To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: sold state drives... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone had any luck finding solid state drives suitable for a news server? Even the "build your own" from your own ram would work. Price is a problem with the ones ive found so far, as ~2G was ~20grand. -Jake Systems Administrator Front Range Internet 970.224.3668 x221 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 27 12:12:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BEFD15374 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 12:12:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jer@jorsm.com) Received: from localhost (jer@localhost) by mercury.jorsm.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA26860; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:12:28 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:12:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Jeremy Shaffner To: Ben Vaughn Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cistron and speed limiting? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What about Modulation_Type? -=========================================================================- Jeremy Shaffner JORSM Internet, Regional Internet Services System Administrator 7 Area Codes in Chicagoland and NW Indiana jer@jorsm.com 100Mbps+ Connectivity, 56K-DS3, V.90, ISDN support@jorsm.com Quality Service, Affordable Prices http://www.jorsm.com Serving Gov, Biz, Indivds Since 1995 -=========================================================================- On Fri, 16 Jul 1999, Ben Vaughn wrote: > Hello, > We use cistron radius as our radius type and I was wondering if > anyone on this list has used this to successfully limit users speeds? We > have a default entry for anyone who shows up in passwd, but since our > access server is a digital one, a customer paying for 33.6k can use 56k or > even isdn! We can set port-limit to 1 to remove the problem of people > using 128k isdn, but we still cannot speed limit people. I am trying to > make the default entry 33.6k only, while if someone is a 56k or isdn user, > they have to have a separate entry in users to be able to use it. Have > tried setting NAS-Port-Type but to no avail. Anybody have a clue? > > > Thanks, > Ben Vaughn > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 27 13:12: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dominik.saargate.de (dominik.saargate.de [212.88.132.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE101527A for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 13:11:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from domi@saargate.de) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dominik.saargate.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA13126 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:11:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from domi@saargate.de) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:11:08 +0200 (CEST) From: Dominik Brettnacher To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Connected users on Cisco 3640 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org last week, there were some messages at this list concerning "Connected users" and the possibility of getting a list of the active sessions on a Livingston Portmaster. At some of our POPs, we are using Cisco 3640 instead of Portmaster. Do you know how to get such a list from it, preferably by using SNMP? -- Dominik - http://www.saargate.de/~domi/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 27 14: 1: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from complx.LF.net (complx.LF.net [195.206.130.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9FB214DA1 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:00:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pi@complx.LF.net) Received: by complx.LF.net (Smail3.2.0.103/complx.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services from pi for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org for host hub.freebsd.org id m119ELF-000zyUC; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:00:53 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: Subject: Modifying MAXLOGNAME ? To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:00:52 +0200 (CEST) From: "Kurt Jaeger" X-NCC-RegID: de.oberon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! Anyone ever changed MAXLOGNAME as defined in utmp.h: #define UT_NAMESIZE 16 and in sys/param.h: * MAXLOGNAME should be == UT_NAMESIZE+1 (see ) sys/param.h:#define MAXLOGNAME 17 (includes NUL byte) and apparently in sys/acct.h and sys/proc.h and sys/user.h ? I want to increase this. Maybe to, say, 64 chars instead of 16. Suggestions ? -- MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger 21 years to go ! LF.net GmbH pi@LF.net Oberon.net GmbH pi@oberon.net Vor dem Lauch 23 fon +49 711 90074-23 Friedrich-Ebert-Str.1 D-70567 Stuttgart fax +49 711 7289041 40210 Duesseldorf fon +49 211 179253-11 For Redmond: "nuke the site from orbit -- it's the only way to be sure." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 27 14:24:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dt011n65.san.rr.com (dt011n65.san.rr.com [204.210.13.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA83F14EE9 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:24:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by dt011n65.san.rr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA02906; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:24:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:24:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug X-Sender: doug@dt011n65.san.rr.com To: Kurt Jaeger Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Modifying MAXLOGNAME ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Kurt Jaeger wrote: > Hi! > > Anyone ever changed > > MAXLOGNAME > > as defined in utmp.h: > #define UT_NAMESIZE 16 Yep. There is extensive discussion about this in the archives regarding what to change, how to change it, what to rebuild, etc. Good luck, Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter what it does. -- Will Rogers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 27 14:36:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from frick.fusecom.net (frick.fusecom.net [209.83.35.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72FD914EBF for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:36:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jade@fusetec.com) Received: from winky (wack.fusecom.net [209.83.35.11]) by frick.fusecom.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id QAA17606 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:36:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jade@fusetec.com) From: Jade To: "Freebsd-Isp" Subject: RE: Modifying MAXLOGNAME ? Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:38:42 -0700 Message-ID: <001501bed889$29597400$1600000a@winky.fusetec.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've done it on FBSD 2.x machines. I also had to modify the command w's report headers and recompile but that's it. I had no other problems. -- Jade -- Fuse Technologies, Inc. -- http://www.fusetec.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Kurt Jaeger > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 2:01 PM > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Modifying MAXLOGNAME ? > > > Hi! > > Anyone ever changed > > MAXLOGNAME > > as defined in utmp.h: > #define UT_NAMESIZE 16 > > and in sys/param.h: * MAXLOGNAME should be == UT_NAMESIZE+1 (see ) > > sys/param.h:#define MAXLOGNAME 17 (includes NUL byte) > > and apparently in sys/acct.h and sys/proc.h and sys/user.h ? > > I want to increase this. Maybe to, say, 64 chars instead of 16. > > Suggestions ? > > -- > MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger 21 > years to go ! > LF.net GmbH pi@LF.net Oberon.net GmbH pi@oberon.net > Vor dem Lauch 23 fon +49 711 90074-23 Friedrich-Ebert-Str.1 > D-70567 Stuttgart fax +49 711 7289041 40210 Duesseldorf fon +49 > 211 179253-11 > For Redmond: "nuke the site from orbit -- it's the only way to be sure." > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 27 14:58:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B51C115269 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:58:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: from current1.whistle.com (current1.whistle.com [207.76.205.22]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id OAA06328; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:56:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 14:56:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Jade Cc: Freebsd-Isp Subject: RE: Modifying MAXLOGNAME ? In-Reply-To: <001501bed889$29597400$1600000a@winky.fusetec.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We routinely use 32 byte user names with UT_NAMESIZE==32 and MAXLOGNAME == 33 On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Jade wrote: > I've done it on FBSD 2.x machines. I also had to modify the command w's > report headers and recompile but that's it. I had no other problems. > > -- Jade > -- Fuse Technologies, Inc. > -- http://www.fusetec.com/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Kurt Jaeger > > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 2:01 PM > > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Modifying MAXLOGNAME ? > > > > > > Hi! > > > > Anyone ever changed > > > > MAXLOGNAME > > > > as defined in utmp.h: > > #define UT_NAMESIZE 16 > > > > and in sys/param.h: * MAXLOGNAME should be == UT_NAMESIZE+1 (see ) > > > > sys/param.h:#define MAXLOGNAME 17 (includes NUL byte) > > > > and apparently in sys/acct.h and sys/proc.h and sys/user.h ? > > > > I want to increase this. Maybe to, say, 64 chars instead of 16. > > > > Suggestions ? > > > > -- > > MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger 21 > > years to go ! > > LF.net GmbH pi@LF.net Oberon.net GmbH pi@oberon.net > > Vor dem Lauch 23 fon +49 711 90074-23 Friedrich-Ebert-Str.1 > > D-70567 Stuttgart fax +49 711 7289041 40210 Duesseldorf fon +49 > > 211 179253-11 > > For Redmond: "nuke the site from orbit -- it's the only way to be sure." > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 27 15: 1:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from alpo.whistle.com (alpo.whistle.com [207.76.204.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA17C153A7 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:01:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@whistle.com) Received: from current1.whistle.com (current1.whistle.com [207.76.205.22]) by alpo.whistle.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with SMTP id PAA06571; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:01:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:01:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Kurt Jaeger Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Modifying MAXLOGNAME ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Kurt Jaeger wrote: > Hi! > > Anyone ever changed > > MAXLOGNAME > > as defined in utmp.h: > #define UT_NAMESIZE 16 > > and in sys/param.h: * MAXLOGNAME should be == UT_NAMESIZE+1 (see ) > > sys/param.h:#define MAXLOGNAME 17 (includes NUL byte) > > and apparently in sys/acct.h and sys/proc.h and sys/user.h ? > > I want to increase this. Maybe to, say, 64 chars instead of 16. > > Suggestions ? Note that MACS use 31 and Win95 machines use 20. Win NT machines use 128 but the UI limits you to 20 for w95 compatibility. (this is all relevant if you are going to use SAMBA and Netatalk.) International versions of Win95 use 10 double byte chars for japanese from memory (I may be wrong.. it's been a while) and (some time ago) the Norwegian version of W95 had a different limit to other W95 (!?!) > > -- > MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger 21 years to go ! > LF.net GmbH pi@LF.net Oberon.net GmbH pi@oberon.net > Vor dem Lauch 23 fon +49 711 90074-23 Friedrich-Ebert-Str.1 > D-70567 Stuttgart fax +49 711 7289041 40210 Duesseldorf fon +49 211 179253-11 > For Redmond: "nuke the site from orbit -- it's the only way to be sure." > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 27 15: 6:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns3.zoomnet.net (ns3.zoomnet.net [206.230.102.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 230E615391 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:06:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cygone@zoomnet.net) Received: from windows (cygone.zoomnet.net [208.32.49.7]) by ns3.zoomnet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA11931 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:04:20 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003401bed87b$82c0c100$0200000a@windows.cygone.com> From: "Mitch Vincent" To: Subject: Re: sold state drives... Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:59:32 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 2 gigs of RAM is 20 Grand or solid state drives are? RAM certainly isn't that expensive. It's more expensive when you get the higher amounts on one chip, but not anywhere near 20,000 dollars. And you must be making a hell of a news server. -Mitch "When all your plans fail, backup, re-group and press on. The only real failure is quitting..." -----Original Message----- From: Jake Ott To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 3:11 PM Subject: sold state drives... > >Anyone had any luck finding solid state drives suitable for a news server? >Even the "build your own" from your own ram would work. Price is a >problem with the ones ive found so far, as ~2G was ~20grand. > >-Jake >Systems Administrator >Front Range Internet >970.224.3668 x221 > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 27 15:13: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns3.zoomnet.net (ns3.zoomnet.net [206.230.102.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC7214F14 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 15:12:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cygone@zoomnet.net) Received: from windows (cygone.zoomnet.net [208.32.49.7]) by ns3.zoomnet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA29183 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:11:44 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <00a601bed87c$8b25b0c0$0200000a@windows.cygone.com> From: "Mitch Vincent" To: Subject: Re: sold state drives... Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 18:08:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I meant to add this to the other message, so pardon this one.. Most Pentium boards will hold up to 2 gigs of RAM now I think, you could just do it with a RAM disk and a backup hard drive. When it boots, copy everything from the hard disk to the RAM disk and off you go.. Granted, it's not a pretty solution, but gives you the same access time (probably 7-9ns depending on the board and RAM) but I'm not positive, I know no one that has done that so I speak strictly in theory.. -Mitch "When all your plans fail, backup, re-group and press on. The only real failure is quitting..." -----Original Message----- From: Mitch Vincent To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 6:08 PM Subject: Re: sold state drives... >2 gigs of RAM is 20 Grand or solid state drives are? > >RAM certainly isn't that expensive. It's more expensive when you get the >higher amounts on one chip, but not anywhere near 20,000 dollars. > >And you must be making a hell of a news server. > >-Mitch > >"When all your plans fail, backup, re-group and press on. The only real >failure is quitting..." > >-----Original Message----- >From: Jake Ott >To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG >Date: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 3:11 PM >Subject: sold state drives... > > >> >>Anyone had any luck finding solid state drives suitable for a news server? >>Even the "build your own" from your own ram would work. Price is a >>problem with the ones ive found so far, as ~2G was ~20grand. >> >>-Jake >>Systems Administrator >>Front Range Internet >>970.224.3668 x221 >> >> >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >> >> > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 27 16:10: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from elara.frii.com (elara.frii.com [216.17.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C97D91538C for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 16:09:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jott@frii.net) Received: from localhost (jott@localhost) by elara.frii.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA73067 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:08:36 -0600 (MDT) X-Authentication-Warning: elara.frii.com: jott owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:08:36 -0600 (MDT) From: Jake Ott X-Sender: jott@elara.frii.com To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sold state drives... In-Reply-To: <00a601bed87c$8b25b0c0$0200000a@windows.cygone.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org that figure was for prebuilt drives, not for do it yourself drives. -Jake Systems Administrator Front Range Internet 970.224.3668 x221 On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Mitch Vincent wrote: > I meant to add this to the other message, so pardon this one.. > > Most Pentium boards will hold up to 2 gigs of RAM now I think, you could > just do it with a RAM disk and a backup hard drive. When it boots, copy > everything from the hard disk to the RAM disk and off you go.. > > Granted, it's not a pretty solution, but gives you the same access time > (probably 7-9ns depending on the board and RAM) but I'm not positive, I know > no one that has done that so I speak strictly in theory.. > > -Mitch > > "When all your plans fail, backup, re-group and press on. The only real > failure is quitting..." > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mitch Vincent > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 6:08 PM > Subject: Re: sold state drives... > > > >2 gigs of RAM is 20 Grand or solid state drives are? > > > >RAM certainly isn't that expensive. It's more expensive when you get the > >higher amounts on one chip, but not anywhere near 20,000 dollars. > > > >And you must be making a hell of a news server. > > > >-Mitch > > > >"When all your plans fail, backup, re-group and press on. The only real > >failure is quitting..." > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Jake Ott > >To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > >Date: Tuesday, July 27, 1999 3:11 PM > >Subject: sold state drives... > > > > > >> > >>Anyone had any luck finding solid state drives suitable for a news server? > >>Even the "build your own" from your own ram would work. Price is a > >>problem with the ones ive found so far, as ~2G was ~20grand. > >> > >>-Jake > >>Systems Administrator > >>Front Range Internet > >>970.224.3668 x221 > >> > >> > >> > >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > >> > >> > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 27 17: 4:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from homer.excitech.com.au (homer.excitech.com.au [203.35.80.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3439214F50 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 17:04:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jordan@excitech.com.au) Received: from frederick (frederick.excitech.com.au [203.35.80.61]) by homer.excitech.com.au (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id KAA11913 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:08:09 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <000b01bed88c$b0ce8c60$0a00a8c0@frederick> Reply-To: "Jordan Race" From: "Jordan Race" To: Subject: NIS and passwords Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:03:56 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, We have a small number of servers set up to use NIS for their userbase. I have set the server up to act as a client to itself for the purposes of passwd changes etc. My question is this - how now do I add users. I can use 'adduser' then copy the entry out of the master.passwd into the /var/yp/master.passwd then run 'make' but wont that then revert any entries that have been changed (eg, through passwd) back to the original in the /var/yp/master.passwd - does anybody use this successfully in practice? Any help appriciated, Regards, Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 27 19:43:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ms.securenet.net (ms.securenet.net [205.236.147.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C120614C1A for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 19:43:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vandj@securenet.net) Received: from office (office.securenet.net [205.236.147.3]) by ms.securenet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA23388 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:42:43 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990727215803.009f5380@ms.securenet.net> X-Sender: vandj@ms.securenet.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 22:42:43 -0400 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Jean M. Vandette" Subject: Re: Modifying MAXLOGNAME ? In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 11:00 PM 7/27/99 +0200, you wrote: >Hi! > >Anyone ever changed > >MAXLOGNAME > >as defined in utmp.h: >#define UT_NAMESIZE 16 > >and in sys/param.h: * MAXLOGNAME should be == UT_NAMESIZE+1 (see ) > >sys/param.h:#define MAXLOGNAME 17 (includes NUL byte) > >and apparently in sys/acct.h and sys/proc.h and sys/user.h ? > >I want to increase this. Maybe to, say, 64 chars instead of 16. > >Suggestions ? > I don't know why you would want such a high number however, if you're serious about this first get the full souces I would suggest CVSUP to make sure everthing is up to date including the ports collection. - Install your fresh system, including all the sources. - Edit the value of UT_NAMESIZE in /usr/src/include/utmp.h to 64 (or whatever you want) - Edit the value of MAXLOGNAME in /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h to one greater than the value you gave UT_NAMESIZE (eg. 65) Remake the world and your kernel. Note that there are a lot of ports that use the UT_NAMESIZE parameter, eg. the POP server. You *must* rebuild them on this machine for them to work properly. (ie. you cannot install packages, or ports that were built on another system). Regards Jean M. Vandette >-- >MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger 21 years to go ! >LF.net GmbH pi@LF.net Oberon.net GmbH pi@oberon.net >Vor dem Lauch 23 fon +49 711 90074-23 Friedrich-Ebert-Str.1 >D-70567 Stuttgart fax +49 711 7289041 40210 Duesseldorf fon +49 211 179253-11 >For Redmond: "nuke the site from orbit -- it's the only way to be sure." > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ************************************************************************** *SecureNet Information Services Inc. 100 Alexis Nihon Blvd., Suite 283* *(514) 744-4242 Vox (514) 744-1552 Fax St. Laurent, Quebec H4M 2N7 * ********** Providing Quality Public Internet access since 1994************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 27 20:42:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from WEBSI.com (websi.com [216.156.137.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A0E153DA; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 20:42:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shashi@WEBSI.com) Received: (from shashi@localhost) by WEBSI.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA01136; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:39:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from shashi) Date: Tue, 27 Jul 1999 23:39:32 -0400 From: ShashiKant Joshi To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Killing disconnected session processes Message-ID: <19990727233932.A1105@Shift-F1.com> Reply-To: shashi@Shift-F1.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Sometimes when a user telnets in a FreeBSD box, and his/her modem disconnects, the login shell process remains lingering, with any other tasks as well. e.g. if the user was doing a vi filename when the modem disconnected him/her, the shell, the vi process are still visible till they are killed explicitly by root Is there a way to have such process killed automatically if the user disconnects. The user is not dialing in, but just doing a telnet in the box. TIA, -- Shashi Joshi _____________________________________________________________________ __o o__ o__ o__ o__ There's one _ \<._ _.>/ _ _.>/ _ _.>/ _ _.>/ _ in every (_)/ (_) (_) \(_) (_) \(_) (_) \(_) (_) \(_) crowd... _____________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jul 27 21:47: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from WEBSI.com (websi.com [216.156.137.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 816E814DC3 for ; Tue, 27 Jul 1999 21:47:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shashi@WEBSI.com) Received: (from root@localhost) by WEBSI.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA02814 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 00:43:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from shashi) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 00:43:13 -0400 From: shashi@websi.com To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Net Traffic Message-ID: <19990728004313.A2647@WEBSI.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have a box colocated at an ISP. I am trying to find out a reliable way to find in and out traffic through my ethernet card fxp0 Does teh traffic info displayed by netstat -ib get reset at system reboot? I would like to track the traffic info on a daily/weekly/monthly basis. Also, how can I find out what kind of bandwidth/speed my box is connected with? Thanks, Shashi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 28 0:49:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (wya-oe7.hotmail.com [207.82.253.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 241AE1542C for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 00:49:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hmoghadam@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 82165 invoked by uid 65534); 28 Jul 1999 07:48:30 -0000 Message-ID: <19990728074830.82164.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [195.146.63.215] From: "Hamid Moghadam" To: , References: <19990728004313.A2647@WEBSI.com> Subject: Re: Net Traffic Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:17:25 +0430 Organization: Iran OnLine MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi You could find your answer at http://ee-staff.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html It is a nice web based Network Traffic Grapher which only needs a web server + PERL 5. Cheers - Hamid ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 9:13 AM Subject: Net Traffic > > Hi, > I have a box colocated at an ISP. I am trying to find out a reliable way to > find in and out traffic through my ethernet card fxp0 > Does teh traffic info displayed by netstat -ib get reset at system reboot? > I would like to track the traffic info on a daily/weekly/monthly basis. > > Also, how can I find out what kind of bandwidth/speed my box is connected > with? > > Thanks, > Shashi > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 28 2:52:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C6AD14F84 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 02:52:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27E3B9B23; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:51:38 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <379ED30A.3DDD737D@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 10:53:14 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mitch Vincent Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sold state drives... References: <00a601bed87c$8b25b0c0$0200000a@windows.cygone.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Most Pentium boards will hold up to 2 gigs of RAM now I think, > you could just do it with a RAM disk and a backup hard drive. > When it boots, copy everything from the hard disk to the RAM > disk and off you go.. How about feeding off a "real" news server to nntpcache running on RAM disk? That avoids the need to rebuild at bootup (yeuch) and you will be able to present a much better range of articles and still have the commonly read/recent ones in ram. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 28 5:40:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from filer2.isc.rit.edu (filer2.isc.rit.edu [129.21.3.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B664315457 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 05:40:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcptch@osfmail.isc.rit.edu) Received: from grace ("port 2086"@[129.21.3.102]) by osfmail.isc.rit.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #34621) with SMTP id <0FFK00KFGYR2UJ@osfmail.isc.rit.edu> for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:30:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by grace (5.65v4.0/1.1.19.2/21Sep98-0910AM) id AA00589; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:31:24 -0400 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:31:24 -0400 From: Jon Parise Subject: Re: Killing disconnected session processes In-reply-to: <19990727233932.A1105@Shift-F1.com>; from shashi@Shift-F1.com on Tue, Jul 27, 1999 at 11:39:32PM -0400 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mail-followup-to: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-id: <19990728083123.D32080@osfmail.isc.rit.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.3i X-Operating-System: OSF1 V4.0 (alpha) References: <19990727233932.A1105@Shift-F1.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jul 27, 1999 at 11:39:32PM -0400, ShashiKant Joshi wrote: > Is there a way to have such process killed automatically if the user > disconnects. The user is not dialing in, but just doing a telnet in the box. Check out 'idled' in the sysutils category of the ports tree. I don't have personal experience with it, but it would appear to do what you want. -- Jon Parise (parise@pobox.com) . Rochester Inst. of Technology http://www.pobox.com/~parise/ : Computer Science House Member To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 28 5:40:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from filer2.isc.rit.edu (filer2.isc.rit.edu [129.21.3.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBF8C15468 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 05:40:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcptch@osfmail.isc.rit.edu) Received: from grace ("port 2247"@[129.21.3.102]) by osfmail.isc.rit.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #34621) with SMTP id <0FFK00F25YXQLC@osfmail.isc.rit.edu> for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:34:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: by grace (5.65v4.0/1.1.19.2/21Sep98-0910AM) id AA00790; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:35:24 -0400 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:35:24 -0400 From: Jon Parise Subject: Re: Net Traffic In-reply-to: <19990728004313.A2647@WEBSI.com>; from shashi@websi.com on Wed, Jul 28, 1999 at 12:43:13AM -0400 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mail-followup-to: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-id: <19990728083524.E32080@osfmail.isc.rit.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.3i X-Operating-System: OSF1 V4.0 (alpha) References: <19990728004313.A2647@WEBSI.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jul 28, 1999 at 12:43:13AM -0400, shashi@websi.com wrote: > I have a box colocated at an ISP. I am trying to find out a reliable way to > find in and out traffic through my ethernet card fxp0 > Does teh traffic info displayed by netstat -ib get reset at system reboot? > I would like to track the traffic info on a daily/weekly/monthly basis. > > Also, how can I find out what kind of bandwidth/speed my box is connected > with? Look into snmp. Basically, all you'd need to do is run an snmp daemon on the machine (snmpd) and query the machine's status at regular intervals with an snmp agent (snmpwalk). You can retrive statistcs on network usage, drive space, system load, or any number of other system vital signs. You can graph the results with a package like mrtg (suggested in a previous response). -- Jon Parise (parise@pobox.com) . Rochester Inst. of Technology http://www.pobox.com/~parise/ : Computer Science House Member To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 28 5:50:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.morelr.com (ns1.morelr.com [206.240.28.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30B1015443 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 05:50:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rmorel@morelr.com) Received: from mr3.morelr.com (mr3.morelr.com [206.240.29.3]) by ns1.morelr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id HAA01067 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 07:50:42 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rmorel@morelr.com) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990728125046.00721530@mail.morelr.com> X-Sender: rmorel@mail.morelr.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 07:50:46 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Rick Morel Subject: Re: Net Traffic Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Looks like something I can use. However, I'm getting stopped with the below with gd: checking for main in -lpng... no configure: error: libpng not found. *** Error code 1 I _DID_ install png. Rick At 12:17 PM 7/28/1999 +0430, "Hamid Moghadam" wrote: >Hi > >You could find your answer at >http://ee-staff.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html >It is a nice web based Network Traffic Grapher which only needs a web server >+ PERL 5. > >Cheers >- Hamid > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: >To: >Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 9:13 AM >Subject: Net Traffic > > >> >> Hi, >> I have a box colocated at an ISP. I am trying to find out a reliable way >to >> find in and out traffic through my ethernet card fxp0 >> Does teh traffic info displayed by netstat -ib get reset at system reboot? >> I would like to track the traffic info on a daily/weekly/monthly basis. >> >> Also, how can I find out what kind of bandwidth/speed my box is connected >> with? >> >> Thanks, >> Shashi >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >> > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 28 7:14:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cobia.gulf.net (cobia.corp.gulf.net [206.105.61.192]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BDB215488 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 07:14:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phill@cobia.gulf.net) Received: from localhost (phill@localhost) by cobia.gulf.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA01274; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:15:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:15:24 -0500 (CDT) From: Phillip Salzman To: Mitch Vincent Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sold state drives... In-Reply-To: <00a601bed87c$8b25b0c0$0200000a@windows.cygone.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Most Pentium boards will hold up to 2 gigs of RAM now I think, you could > just do it with a RAM disk and a backup hard drive. When it boots, copy > everything from the hard disk to the RAM disk and off you go.. I thought PII's could only do up to 512M of RAM? Does anyone know for sure, or what the PIII can do? -- Phillip Salzman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 28 7:16:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cobia.gulf.net (cobia.corp.gulf.net [206.105.61.192]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0802A15489 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 07:16:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phill@cobia.gulf.net) Received: from localhost (phill@localhost) by cobia.gulf.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA01278; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:17:03 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:17:02 -0500 (CDT) From: Phillip Salzman To: shashi@websi.com Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Net Traffic In-Reply-To: <19990728004313.A2647@WEBSI.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Many bandwidth monitoring programs exist. Check out MRTG or BB (Big Brother). -- Phillip Salzman On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 shashi@websi.com wrote: > > Hi, > I have a box colocated at an ISP. I am trying to find out a reliable way to > find in and out traffic through my ethernet card fxp0 > Does teh traffic info displayed by netstat -ib get reset at system reboot? > I would like to track the traffic info on a daily/weekly/monthly basis. > > Also, how can I find out what kind of bandwidth/speed my box is connected > with? > > Thanks, > Shashi > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 28 8:14:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from eugnpop1.eugn.uswest.net (eugnpop1.eugn.uswest.net [207.109.240.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EEEFF14D85 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:14:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vkeller@uswest.net) Received: (qmail 8669 invoked by alias); 28 Jul 1999 15:12:06 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-freebsd-isp@freebsd.org@fixme Received: (qmail 8564 invoked by uid 0); 28 Jul 1999 15:12:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws-s1.signworld.com) (209.180.178.58) by eugnpop1.eugn.uswest.net with SMTP; 28 Jul 1999 15:12:01 -0000 Message-Id: <3.0.32.19990728081406.006ede88@pop.eugn.uswest.net> X-Sender: vkeller@pop.eugn.uswest.net X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:14:09 -0700 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: "V. Keller" Subject: isp tutorials/dns, apache setup help? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I am a newbie to freebsd.....have been an NT isp since 84, but am trying to "step up into the real world" with freebsd. I have a fresh install of 3.2 and don't want screw it up right out of the gate. I did use MetaInfo for dns back in 94-95, but have been relying on ms dns manager so have lost most of the real dns setup stuff. The machine will be a nameserver and have multiple ip addresses and host multiple virtual domains on it. I've read thru the Lehey book, but as I'm so new tro the Unix arena, it is a little difficult for me to pick out some things like tieing multiple ip's to the network card etc...... Are there any tutorials,etc....for isp setup of dns,apache,etc? An example set of all dns files and records and instructions on tying multiplt ip's to the card would be extremely helpful. Also, and advice for a beginner in setting up this stuff correctly. I'd rather hear of the particulars from you guys (and gals) than plodding thru and screwing up customers config's! Thanx for any help, Vern To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 28 8:21:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns3.zoomnet.net (ns3.zoomnet.net [206.230.102.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74AA815084 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:21:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cygone@zoomnet.net) Received: from windows (cygone.zoomnet.net [208.32.49.7]) by ns3.zoomnet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA30692 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:19:56 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <011901bed90c$30a97740$0200000a@windows.cygone.com> From: "Mitch Vincent" To: Subject: Re: isp tutorials/dns, apache setup help? Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 11:16:27 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Since 84 you've used NT? Ok then.. There are many HOWTOs and man pages you can look at, as well as ISP oriented FreeBSD books, search your documentation on your CD for HOWTOs and Amazon.com to find books. -Mitch "When all your plans fail, backup, re-group and press on. The only real failure is quitting..." -----Original Message----- From: V. Keller To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wednesday, July 28, 1999 11:16 AM Subject: isp tutorials/dns, apache setup help? >Hello, > I am a newbie to freebsd.....have been an NT isp since 84, but am trying >to "step up into the real world" with freebsd. I have a fresh install of >3.2 and don't want screw it up right out of the gate. I did use MetaInfo >for dns back in 94-95, but have been relying on ms dns manager so have lost >most of the real dns setup stuff. The machine will be a nameserver and >have multiple ip addresses and host multiple virtual domains on it. I've >read thru the Lehey book, but as I'm so new tro the Unix arena, it is a >little difficult for me to pick out some things like tieing multiple ip's >to the network card etc...... > Are there any tutorials,etc....for isp setup of dns,apache,etc? An example >set of all dns files and records and instructions on tying multiplt ip's to >the card would be extremely helpful. > Also, and advice for a beginner in setting up this stuff correctly. I'd >rather hear of the particulars from you guys (and gals) than plodding thru >and screwing up customers config's! >Thanx for any help, >Vern > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 28 9: 0:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B8D614DFD for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 09:00:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAEBF9B25; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:00:07 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <379F2968.590D2C5D@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 17:01:44 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rick Morel Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Net Traffic References: <2.2.32.19990728125046.00721530@mail.morelr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Looks like something I can use. However, I'm getting stopped > with the below with gd: Did you install from the port? If not, you should. cd /usr/ports/net/mrtg make install If you're compiling by hand then maybe 'ldconfig -m' will fix it without going to the port (although in general it is far, far easier to use the port, it will download, patch, compile and install things like gd and png for you). You probably also need an snmpd, try /usr/ports/net/ucd-snmp. That one is available in a package (pkg_add -r ucd-snmp) but you are probably better off to use the port and compile it on your own system with ucd-snmpd. (Often you can save time by using the package to install and cd'ing to the port directory than 'make patch' which will download, unpack and patch the files without compiling them, that way you will be able to cd into the work directory and find the full docs). You'll need the docs of both mrtg and ucd-snmp to get it working properly. Beware: With ucd-snmp, if you upgrade your kernel, you will probably need to recompile ucd-snmp using new include files. You'll know if you have to do this because the disk containing /var/log will get very, very full very, very rapidly. :-) Stuart To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 28 12: 4: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from inet.chip-web.com (c1003518-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.1.82.47]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E40A15063 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:03:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ludwigp@bigfoot.com) Received: (qmail 24783 invoked from network); 28 Jul 1999 19:04:08 -0000 Received: from speedy.chip-web.com (HELO speedy) (172.16.1.1) by inet.chip-web.com with SMTP; 28 Jul 1999 19:04:08 -0000 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990728120317.00a66a00@toy> X-Sender: ludwigp@toy (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:04:07 -0700 To: Phillip Salzman From: Ludwig Pummer Subject: Re: sold state drives... Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <00a601bed87c$8b25b0c0$0200000a@windows.cygone.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 09:15 AM 7/28/1999 -0500, Phillip Salzman wrote: >I thought PII's could only do up to 512M of RAM? Does anyone know for >sure, or what the PIII can do? According to Intel, P-IIs have a physical address space of 64GB (http://www.intel.com/pentiumII/specs/fact.htm). Ditto for the P-III (http://developer.intel.com/design/PentiumIII/prodbref/). Finding a P-II or P-III motherboard that holds more than 2GB is another matter. --Ludwig Pummer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 28 12:47: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E92215251 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 12:46:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@eclipse.net.uk) Received: from eclipse.net.uk (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id D656D9B23; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:46:48 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <379F5E88.6EF40FC@eclipse.net.uk> Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 20:48:24 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Eclipse Networking Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Ludwig Pummer Cc: Phillip Salzman , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sold state drives... References: <00a601bed87c$8b25b0c0$0200000a@windows.cygone.com> <4.2.0.58.19990728120317.00a66a00@toy> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Finding a P-II or P-III motherboard that holds more than 2GB is > another matter. or chipset that supports it ;-) you are a lot more likely to get that with a Xeon board. -sh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 28 14:45:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from snafu.adept.org (adsl-63-193-112-19.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.112.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27AA815519 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:45:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@snafu.adept.org) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by snafu.adept.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01313; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:44:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 14:44:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hoskins To: "V. Keller" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: isp tutorials/dns, apache setup help? In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.19990728081406.006ede88@pop.eugn.uswest.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 28 Jul 1999, V. Keller wrote: > Are there any tutorials,etc....for isp setup of dns,apache,etc? An example > set of all dns files and records and instructions on tying multiplt ip's to > the card would be extremely helpful. DNS == http://www.isc.org/view.cgi?/products/BIND/index.phtml Apache == http://www.freebsdzine.org/199902/features/vhosts.html Sendmail == http://www.sendmail.org/virtual-hosting.html There's more, of course, both on the 'net and in books... Search/look around and you won't be disappointed. As for 'typing' IPs to your NIC... see 'man ifconfig'. This works, # ifconfig alias netmask 255.255.255.255 I do this from a script, /usr/local/etc/rc.d/aliases.sh, so that the IPs are bound on system startup. > Also, and advice for a beginner in setting up this stuff correctly. I'd > rather hear of the particulars from you guys (and gals) than plodding thru > and screwing up customers config's! We're glad to help, unfortuneately, 'plodding thru' is the only real way you'll learn, and remember... Later, --mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 28 18: 9:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from arutam.inch.com (ns.inch.com [207.240.140.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3552414FD4 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 18:09:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freyes@inch.com) Received: from your-name (freyes.static.inch.com [207.240.212.43]) by arutam.inch.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id VAA11400; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:09:21 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199907290109.VAA11400@arutam.inch.com> From: "Francisco Reyes" To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" , "V. Keller" Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 21:09:55 -0400 Reply-To: "Francisco Reyes" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Professional (2.01.1600) For Windows 98 (4.10.1998) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: isp tutorials/dns, apache setup help? Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 28 Jul 1999 08:14:09 -0700, V. Keller wrote: >most of the real dns setup stuff. The machine will be a nameserver and >have multiple ip addresses and host multiple virtual domains on it. I've >read thru the Lehey book, but as I'm so new tro the Unix arena, Sine you are "new to Unix" you have several things you will be learning at once. Recommend you get some general Unix books which although may not seem like something you will "need" it will save you lots of time navigating/using the computer. Just to mention a couple: The Unix Companion by Harley Hahn. Recommend it if you are totally new to Unix. Unix Power Tools by Jerry Peek, Tim O'Reilly and Mike Lukides. Over a 1,000 pages of hints, tips and tricks. Overall the Complete FreeBSD covers most of the basics: configuring your network card, routing, setting up DNS... If there are parts which are not clear you may want to write to the question mailing list and mention what you are reading and what you don't understand.. this way others with the book can read exactly what you are reading and try to clarify it. A few links of interest: http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html http://www.freebsd.org/news/ (see Freebsd ezine, frebsd dairy, daemon news) In particular look at the freebsd ezine. I have found several good articles there on setting up/configuring several of the things you will need (apache, squid, sendmail..) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 28 19:14:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from goa.stepnet.com (goa.stepnet.com [206.14.120.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5497D14F5D for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:14:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ping@stepnet.com) Received: (from ping@localhost) by goa.stepnet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA06156 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:12:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ping) From: Ping Mai Message-Id: <199907290212.TAA06156@goa.stepnet.com> Subject: dgii support? To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:12:34 -0700 (PDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL49 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is the Digi AccelePort Xem 16em PCI supported? I going to use it to set a console server. ------------------------------------------------------------ Ping Mai ping@stepnet.com ------------------------------------------------------------ Work keeps away three great evils: boredom, vice, and need. - Voltaire To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jul 28 23:26:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (dynamic-96.max1-du-ws.dialnetwork.pavilion.co.uk [212.74.8.96]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30D115563 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:26:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.8]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA31833; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 07:22:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@lan.awfulhak.org) Received: from keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by keep.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA30525; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 07:23:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199907290623.HAA30525@keep.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Ping Mai Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dgii support? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 28 Jul 1999 19:12:34 PDT." <199907290212.TAA06156@goa.stepnet.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 07:23:02 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Is the Digi AccelePort Xem 16em PCI supported? > I going to use it to set a console server. I don't think it is. The ISA version is supported though. > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Ping Mai > ping@stepnet.com > ------------------------------------------------------------ > Work keeps away three great evils: boredom, vice, and need. > - Voltaire -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 29 2: 2:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hack.babel.dk (hack.babel.dk [194.255.106.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1466A15520 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 02:02:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shredder@hack.babel.dk) Received: from localhost (shredder@localhost) by hack.babel.dk (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id LAA18615 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:01:30 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:01:29 +0200 (CEST) From: chrw To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD diskcache Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can someone enlightned me how the diskcache disk i/o performance is achieved on freebsd? It seem, if one runs a find thru all the fs, it will cache some, but not all of the fs. If one mounts the fs with the asynch option, this was supposed to increase performance/use of io disk cache. I tested this, and noticed no difference, the disk cache appear to be of a fixed size, regardless of available (free) memory, and regardless of a(sync) operations. Can someone indepth explain this, in perspective of the linux way, with a dynamic disk cache which inc/decreases the size of the diskcache this way adapting to the current level of free memory, and this way enhancing disk performance, and perhaps introducing problems regarding fs corruption in a crash or heavy load situation (?). Mvh/ Kind Regards, CW To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 29 2: 8: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from forty-two.egroups.net (teapot.findmail.com [206.16.70.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C16D1155A3 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 02:07:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gsutter@forty-two.egroups.net) Received: (from gsutter@localhost) by forty-two.egroups.net (8.9.3/8.9.2) id CAA47946; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 02:07:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gsutter) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 02:07:09 -0700 From: Gregory Sutter To: Stuart Henderson Cc: Ludwig Pummer , Phillip Salzman , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sold state drives... Message-ID: <19990729020709.O391@forty-two.egroups.net> References: <00a601bed87c$8b25b0c0$0200000a@windows.cygone.com> <4.2.0.58.19990728120317.00a66a00@toy> <379F5E88.6EF40FC@eclipse.net.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <379F5E88.6EF40FC@eclipse.net.uk>; from Stuart Henderson on Wed, Jul 28, 1999 at 08:48:24PM +0100 Organization: Zer0 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jul 28, 1999 at 08:48:24PM +0100, Stuart Henderson wrote: > > Finding a P-II or P-III motherboard that holds more than 2GB is > > another matter. > > or chipset that supports it ;-) you are a lot more likely to get > that with a Xeon board. Intel GX-chipset motherboards support 2GB of RAM. Tested, confirmed. Greg -- Gregory S. Sutter My reality check just bounced. mailto:gsutter@pobox.com http://www.pobox.com/~gsutter/ PGP DSS public key 0x40AE3052 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 29 2:11:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from implode.root.com (root.com [209.102.106.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D167155A3 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 02:11:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id CAA06665; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 02:10:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199907290910.CAA06665@implode.root.com> To: chrw Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD diskcache In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:01:29 +0200." From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 02:10:09 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Can someone enlightned me how the diskcache disk i/o performance is >achieved on freebsd? It seem, if one runs a find thru all the fs, >it will cache some, but not all of the fs. If one mounts >the fs with the asynch option, this was supposed to increase >performance/use of io disk cache. I tested this, and noticed no >difference, the disk cache appear to be of a fixed size, regardless >of available (free) memory, and regardless of a(sync) operations. Can >someone indepth explain this, in perspective of the linux way, with a >dynamic disk cache which inc/decreases the size of the diskcache this way >adapting to the current level of free memory, and this way enhancing >disk performance, and perhaps introducing problems regarding fs >corruption in a crash or heavy load situation (?). I think the best answer to this is that FreeBSD caches as much file data as possible and uses otherwise free memory for this purpose. Our filesystem buffer mechanism is very different from traditional Unix and serves only as a temporary mapping mechanism for pages in the virtual memory system where the file data is ultimately cached. The async option really has nothing to do with any of this. It's purpose is to defer writing of certain filesystem metadata (such as directories and inodes) so that the number of disk seeks can be reduced. -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 29 3:21:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cronus.medianetwork.se (cronus.medianetwork.se [193.14.204.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 434FB14ED4 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 03:21:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from support@junglenote.com) Received: from junglenote.com (digital30.medianetwork.se [193.14.204.248]) by cronus.medianetwork.se (8.9.3/8.7) with SMTP id MAA21523 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:20:08 +0200 Received: from enigmatic [127.0.0.1] by junglenote.com [localhost] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.7.SP5.R) for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:27:38 +0200 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:27:36 +0200 Message-ID: <01BED9BD.BDB318B0.support@junglenote.com> From: Dan Larsson To: "[FreeBSD-ISP-List] (E-post)" Subject: etinc bwmgr reliability Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:27:35 +0200 Organization: Portabla Datorer AB X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet-e-post/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Return-Path: support@junglenote.com Reply-To: support@junglenote.com Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! Has someone tested the ET inc (http://www.etinc.com) Bandwidth Manager? Is it reliable as an isp solution for managing bandwidth usage? Comments welcome.. Thanks /D To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 29 3:24:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.areti.net (meteora.areti.com [194.207.26.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6F1114ED4 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 03:24:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ndear@areti.net) Received: from patras.areti.com (patras.areti.com [194.207.96.187]) by post.mail.areti.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Areti-2.0.0) with SMTP id LAA10022 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:28:57 +0100 Message-Id: <199907291028.LAA10022@post.mail.areti.net> From: "Nicholas J. Dear" Organization: Areti Internet Ltd. To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:27:04 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Apache on FreeBSD. Reply-To: ndear@areti.net X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Apologies if this isn't directly related to FreeBSD (the machine runs it, but I don't suppose that makes much difference). I'm trying to turn off directory listing functionality for one virtual host in httpd.conf. The apache site appears to recommend something using the tags, but I get (below) this when I configtest it. ServerName www.blah.co.uk ServerAdmin mark@blah.co.uk DocumentRoot /usr/home/longmire/public_html ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/home/longmire/cgi-bin/ ErrorLog /usr/local/apache/logs/www.longmire.co.uk/error_log Options FollowSymLinks su-2.02# ./apachectl configtest Syntax error on line 1979 of /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf: ScriptAlias not allowed here Any ideas? :) N. -- Nicholas J. Dear Mail: ndear@areti.net Tel: +44 (0)208-402-4041 Areti Internet Ltd., http://www.areti.co.uk/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 29 3:40:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from eden.logilune.com (eden.logilune.com [195.154.174.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4166150A9 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 03:40:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cholet@logilune.com) Received: from talisker.logilune.com (talisker.logilune.com [192.168.1.2]) by eden.logilune.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D8E3EA15C9; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:40:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:40:24 +0200 Message-ID: <01BED9BF.878B8040.cholet@logilune.com> From: Eric Cholet To: "'ndear@areti.net'" , "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: RE: Apache on FreeBSD. Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:40:23 +0200 Organization: Logilune X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thursday, July 29, 1999 12:27 PM, Nicholas J. Dear [SMTP:ndear@areti.net] wrote: > Apologies if this isn't directly related to FreeBSD (the machine runs it, but I > don't suppose that makes much difference). > > I'm trying to turn off directory listing functionality for one virtual host in > httpd.conf. The apache site appears to recommend something using the > tags, but I get (below) this when I configtest it. You turn off directory listings by turning off the "Indexes" option, e.g. Options -Indexes see http://www.apache.org/docs/mod/core.html#options > > ServerName www.blah.co.uk > ServerAdmin mark@blah.co.uk > DocumentRoot /usr/home/longmire/public_html > ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/home/longmire/cgi-bin/ > ErrorLog /usr/local/apache/logs/www.longmire.co.uk/error_log > Options FollowSymLinks > > > > su-2.02# ./apachectl configtest > Syntax error on line 1979 of /usr/local/apache/conf/httpd.conf: > ScriptAlias not allowed here ScriptAlias can't be used in a section, see http://www.apache.org/docs/mod/mod_alias.html#scriptalias > > Any ideas? :) > N. > -- > Nicholas J. Dear > Mail: ndear@areti.net Tel: +44 (0)208-402-4041 > Areti Internet Ltd., http://www.areti.co.uk/ > -- Eric To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 29 3:46:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.areti.net (meteora.areti.com [194.207.26.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8707F150A9 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 03:46:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ndear@areti.net) Received: from patras.areti.com (patras.areti.com [194.207.96.187]) by post.mail.areti.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Areti-2.0.0) with SMTP id LAA10771; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:50:44 +0100 Message-Id: <199907291050.LAA10771@post.mail.areti.net> From: "Nicholas J. Dear" Organization: Areti Internet Ltd. To: Eric Cholet Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 11:48:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: RE: Apache on FreeBSD. Reply-To: ndear@areti.net Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <01BED9BF.878B8040.cholet@logilune.com> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 29 Jul 99, at 12:40, Eric Cholet wrote: > > I'm trying to turn off directory listing functionality for one virtual host in > > httpd.conf. The apache site appears to recommend something using the > > tags, but I get (below) this when I configtest it. > > You turn off directory listings by turning off the "Indexes" option, e.g. > Options -Indexes > > see http://www.apache.org/docs/mod/core.html#options I've done a manual override (at the top of httpd.conf) which does the trick - but I still don't understand the syntax that goes in the directive. N. -- Nicholas J. Dear Mail: ndear@areti.net Tel: +44 (0)208-402-4041 Areti Internet Ltd., http://www.areti.co.uk/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 29 3:51: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from eden.logilune.com (eden.logilune.com [195.154.174.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6800150A9 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 03:51:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cholet@logilune.com) Received: from talisker.logilune.com (talisker.logilune.com [192.168.1.2]) by eden.logilune.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 78B37A15C9; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:48:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:48:39 +0200 Message-ID: <01BED9C0.AE1F7D00.cholet@logilune.com> From: Eric Cholet To: "'ndear@areti.net'" Cc: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: RE: Apache on FreeBSD. Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 12:48:38 +0200 Organization: Logilune X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thursday, July 29, 1999 12:49 PM, Nicholas J. Dear [SMTP:ndear@areti.net] wrote: > On 29 Jul 99, at 12:40, Eric Cholet wrote: > > > > I'm trying to turn off directory listing functionality for one virtual host in > > > httpd.conf. The apache site appears to recommend something using the > > > tags, but I get (below) this when I configtest it. > > > > You turn off directory listings by turning off the "Indexes" option, e.g. > > Options -Indexes > > > > see http://www.apache.org/docs/mod/core.html#options > > I've done a manual override (at the top of httpd.conf) which does the trick - but I > still don't understand the syntax that goes in the directive. Well this is definitely offtopic, it's an Apache configuration issue that has nothing to do with FreeBSD. Let's continue this offlist. > N. > -- > Nicholas J. Dear > Mail: ndear@areti.net Tel: +44 (0)208-402-4041 > Areti Internet Ltd., http://www.areti.co.uk/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 29 6:18:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.i-p-d.nl (ns.i-p-d.nl [207.235.6.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298BE155D3 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 06:17:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from holland@i-p-d.nl) Received: from oudenden.worldonline.nl (vp207-196.worldonline.nl [195.241.207.196]) by ns.i-p-d.nl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA01348 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:24:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from holland@i-p-d.nl) Message-Id: <199907291324.PAA01348@ns.i-p-d.nl> Comments: Authenticated sender is From: holland@i-p-d.nl To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 15:11:08 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: apache+mod_ssl-1.3.6+2.3.6 and mm-1.0.9 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.54) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, I am trying to compile the apache+mod_ssl-1.3.6+2.3.6 from the ports collection. I keep running into an error. mm-1.0.9, openssl-0.9.3a where compiled prior to this from the ports collection with no problem on freebsd 2.2.8. If someone knows a fix that would be much appriciated. Thanks Ron ------------------- ns1# make ===> Extracting for apache+mod_ssl-1.3.6+2.3.6 >> Checksum OK for apache_1.3.6.tar.gz. >> Checksum OK for mod_ssl-2.3.6-1.3.6.tar.gz. ===> apache+mod_ssl-1.3.6+2.3.6 depends on executable: openssl - found ===> apache+mod_ssl-1.3.6+2.3.6 depends on executable: mm-config - found ===> apache+mod_ssl-1.3.6+2.3.6 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libssl.a - found ===> apache+mod_ssl-1.3.6+2.3.6 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.a - found ===> apache+mod_ssl-1.3.6+2.3.6 depends on file: /usr/local/lib/libmm.a - found ===> apache+mod_ssl-1.3.6+2.3.6 depends on executable: perl5.00502 - found ===> Patching for apache+mod_ssl-1.3.6+2.3.6 ===> Applying mod_ssl-2.3.6 extension Configuring mod_ssl/2.3.6 for Apache/1.3.6 + Apache location: ../apache_1.3.6 (Version 1.3.6) + Auxiliary patch tool: ./etc/patch/patch (local) + Applying packages to Apache source tree: o Extended API (EAPI) o Distribution Documents o SSL Module Source o SSL Support o SSL Configuration Additions o SSL Module Documentation o Addons Done: source extension and patches successfully applied. ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for apache+mod_ssl-1.3.6+2.3.6 ===> Configuring for apache+mod_ssl-1.3.6+2.3.6 Configuring for Apache, Version 1.3.6 + using installation path layout: GNU (config.layout) Creating Makefile Creating Configuration.apaci in src + enabling mod_so for DSO support Creating Makefile in src + configured for FreeBSD 2.2.8 platform + setting C pre-processor to cc -E + checking for system header files + using custom target name: apache + adding selected modules o rewrite_module uses ConfigStart/End enabling DBM support for mod_rewrite o db_auth_module uses ConfigStart/End using Berkeley-DB/1.x for mod_auth_db (-lc) o ssl_module uses ConfigStart/End + SSL interface: mod_ssl/2.3.6 + SSL interface build type: DSO + SSL interface compatibility: enabled + SSL interface experimental code: disabled + SSL interface vendor extensions: disabled + SSL interface plugin: Vendor DBM (libc) + SSL library path: [SYSTEM] + SSL library version: OpenSSL 0.9.3a 29 May 1999 + SSL library type: installed package (system-wide) + SSL library plugin mode: RSAref (implicitly configured) + SSL library plugin path: /usr/local/lib/librsaref.a + enabling Extended API (EAPI) using MM library for EAPI: (system-wide) + doing sanity check on compiler and options Creating Makefile in src/support Creating Makefile in src/main Creating Makefile in src/ap Creating Makefile in src/regex Creating Makefile in src/os/unix Creating Makefile in src/modules/standard Creating Makefile in src/modules/extra Creating Makefile in src/modules/proxy Creating Makefile in src/modules/ssl ===> Building for apache+mod_ssl-1.3.6+2.3.6 ===> src ===> src/os/unix cc -c -I/usr/local/include -I../../os/unix -I../../include -DHARD_SERVER_LIMIT=512 -DDEFAULT_PATH=\"/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin\" -funsigned-char -DTARGET=\"apache\" - DMOD_SSL=203106 -DEAPI -DEAPI_MM -O -pipe `../../apaci` os.c cc -c -I/usr/local/include -I../../os/unix -I../../include -DHARD_SERVER_LIMIT=512 -DDEFAULT_PATH=\"/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin\" -funsigned-char -DTARGET=\"apache\" - DMOD_SSL=203106 -DEAPI -DEAPI_MM -O -pipe `../../apaci` os-inline.c rm -f libos.a ar cr libos.a os.o os-inline.o ranlib libos.a <=== src/os/unix ===> src/ap cc -c -I/usr/local/include -I../os/unix -I../include -DHARD_SERVER_LIMIT=512 -DDEFA ULT_PATH=\"/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin\" -funsigned-char -DTARGET=\"apache\" -DMOD_S SL=203106 -DEAPI -DEAPI_MM -O -pipe `../apaci` ap_execve.c cc -c -I/usr/local/include -I../os/unix -I../include -DHARD_SERVER_LIMIT=512 -DDEFA ULT_PATH=\"/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin\" -funsigned-char -DTARGET=\"apache\" -DMOD_S SL=203106 -DEAPI -DEAPI_MM -O -pipe `../apaci` ap_cpystrn.c cc -c -I/usr/local/include -I../os/unix -I../include -DHARD_SERVER_LIMIT=512 -DDEFA ULT_PATH=\"/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin\" -funsigned-char -DTARGET=\"apache\" -DMOD_S SL=203106 -DEAPI -DEAPI_MM -O -pipe `../apaci` ap_signal.c cc -c -I/usr/local/include -I../os/unix -I../include -DHARD_SERVER_LIMIT=512 -DDEFA ULT_PATH=\"/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin\" -funsigned-char -DTARGET=\"apache\" -DMOD_S SL=203106 -DEAPI -DEAPI_MM -O -pipe `../apaci` ap_slack.c cc -c -I/usr/local/include -I../os/unix -I../include -DHARD_SERVER_LIMIT=512 -DDEFA ULT_PATH=\"/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin\" -funsigned-char -DTARGET=\"apache\" -DMOD_S SL=203106 -DEAPI -DEAPI_MM -O -pipe `../apaci` ap_snprintf.c cc -c -I/usr/local/include -I../os/unix -I../include -DHARD_SERVER_LIMIT=512 -DDEFA ULT_PATH=\"/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin\" -funsigned-char -DTARGET=\"apache\" -DMOD_S SL=203106 -DEAPI -DEAPI_MM -O -pipe `../apaci` ap_fnmatch.c cc -c -I/usr/local/include -I../os/unix -I../include -DHARD_SERVER_LIMIT=512 -DDEFA ULT_PATH=\"/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin\" -funsigned-char -DTARGET=\"apache\" -DMOD_S SL=203106 -DEAPI -DEAPI_MM -O -pipe `../apaci` ap_md5c.c cc -c -I/usr/local/include -I../os/unix -I../include -DHARD_SERVER_LIMIT=512 -DDEFA ULT_PATH=\"/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin\" -funsigned-char -DTARGET=\"apache\" -DMOD_S SL=203106 -DEAPI -DEAPI_MM -O -pipe `../apaci` ap_hook.c cc -c -I/usr/local/include -I../os/unix -I../include -DHARD_SERVER_LIMIT=512 -DDEFA ULT_PATH=\"/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin\" -funsigned-char -DTARGET=\"apache\" -DMOD_S SL=203106 -DEAPI -DEAPI_MM -O -pipe `../apaci` ap_ctx.c cc -c -I/usr/local/include -I../os/unix -I../include -DHARD_SERVER_LIMIT=512 -DDEFA ULT_PATH=\"/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin\" -funsigned-char -DTARGET=\"apache\" -DMOD_S SL=203106 -DEAPI -DEAPI_MM -O -pipe `../apaci` ap_mm.c ap_mm.c: In function `ap_mm_useable': ap_mm.c:83: `TRUE' undeclared (first use this function) ap_mm.c:83: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ap_mm.c:83: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 29 6:38: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.morelr.com (ns1.morelr.com [206.240.28.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEAF014F4A for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 06:37:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rmorel@morelr.com) Received: from mr3.morelr.com (mr3.morelr.com [206.240.29.3]) by ns1.morelr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id IAA17167 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:37:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rmorel@morelr.com) Message-Id: <2.2.32.19990729133704.006a8414@mail.morelr.com> X-Sender: rmorel@mail.morelr.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 2.2 (32) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 08:37:04 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Rick Morel Subject: Re: Net Traffic Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 05:01 PM 7/28/1999 +0100, Stuart Henderson wrote: >Did you install from the port? If not, you should. > >cd /usr/ports/net/mrtg >make install > Thanks! Yes, I am installing all from the ports. Doing the above bombs out, telling me I need gd. gd tells me it can't find png, which I _did_ sucessfully install. I'll work on it some more and eventually track down the bump. ..... Endless Loop: See Loop, Endless ..... Loop, Endless: See Endless Loop Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 29 7: 2:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mrdata.com (austin-isc.org [216.61.45.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E78211547B for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 07:02:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blakef@mrdata.com) Received: (from blakef@localhost) by mrdata.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id JAA94366 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:02:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Blake Freeburg Message-Id: <199907291402.JAA94366@mrdata.com> Subject: Netscape popper wierdness To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:02:40 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Recently two clients have been having popper errors reading mail from my server, and I would like any hints. I am running FreeBSD 3.2, QPopper 2.53, and they are using netscape 4.x First, it works, but gives these errors (Netscape 4.6 client): Jul 28 15:44:00 mrdata popper[82078]: @dmz2a-240.tivoli.com: -ERR Too few arguments for the auth command. Jul 28 15:44:01 mrdata popper[82078]: kathy@dmz2a-240.tivoli.com: -ERR Unknown command: "xsender". Second, it never reads mail, but gives this error (Netscape 4.5, 4.6): Jul 29 08:26:39 mrdata popper[93832]: cliffh@dial-125-22.ots.utexas.edu: -ERR Unknown command: "xsender". Jul 29 08:26:44 mrdata popper[93832]: cliffh@dial-125-22.ots.utexas.edu: -ERR POP EOF received Any ideas/work arounds? All other mail clients are doing fine. Blake Freeburg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 29 7: 7:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mrdata.com (austin-isc.org [216.61.45.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65F83155DA for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 07:07:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blakef@mrdata.com) Received: (from blakef@localhost) by mrdata.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) id JAA94436 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:06:52 -0500 (CDT) From: Blake Freeburg Message-Id: <199907291406.JAA94436@mrdata.com> Subject: FreeBSD, Apache, and Frontpage.. To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 09:06:52 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I know this is not exactly FreeBSD centric, but has anyone gotten FreeBSD 3.2 to run with Frontpage 2000 (4.0.4.3)? I have tried using the BSDI Frontpage distribution, and almost there, but this wierd error... [Sat Jul 24 20:49:42 1999] [error] [client 216.61.45.4] script not found or unable to stat: /usr/local/frontpage/version4.0/apache-fp/_vti_bin/fpexe/_vti_rpc The problem is that fpexe in the path is a file, not a directory? Any configuration hints out there? Blake Freeburg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 29 7:56:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from agora.rdrop.com (agora.rdrop.com [199.2.210.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6CE314C8F for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 07:56:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from batie@agora.rdrop.com) Received: (from batie@localhost) by agora.rdrop.com (8.8.5/8.8.7) id HAA16191; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 07:54:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from batie) Message-ID: <19990729075418.24163@rdrop.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 07:54:18 -0700 From: Alan Batie To: support@junglenote.com Cc: "[FreeBSD-ISP-List] (E-post)" Subject: Re: etinc bwmgr reliability References: <01BED9BD.BDB318B0.support@junglenote.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-md5; boundary=akKZr9L6Hm6aLOcr X-Mailer: Mutt 0.88 In-Reply-To: <01BED9BD.BDB318B0.support@junglenote.com>; from Dan Larsson on Thu, Jul 29, 1999 at 12:27:35PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --akKZr9L6Hm6aLOcr Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Thu, Jul 29, 1999 at 12:27:35PM +0200, Dan Larsson wrote: > Has someone tested the ET inc (http://www.etinc.com) Bandwidth Manager? > Is it reliable as an isp solution for managing bandwidth usage? Comments > welcome.. I'm using it to bandwidth limit my newsfeed to keep it from saturating my T1 while I switch everyone to newsfeeds.com. It's been working great for several weeks... -- Alan Batie ______ www.rdrop.com/users/batie Me batie@agora.rdrop.com \ / www.qrd.org The Triangle PGPFP DE 3C 29 17 C0 49 7A \ / www.pgpi.com The Weird Numbers 27 40 A5 3C 37 4A DA 52 B9 \/ www.anti-spam.net NO SPAM! --akKZr9L6Hm6aLOcr Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBN6BrGYv4wNua7QglAQEWYQP/fGpHuAOuwHbLl9eEt5TBBHvZd70kgQQf m6NBGnhdYFBR9oTEvFDNg5MhMk8PthXfSmXLziXollbgYY3QMuDg85pK+1HgIMZc ZCZtRW2b7j33jiCC+Ji5KLXqskduTHISbq+SMvYvFOgwUAy3K8qtqtfGSy7F36J8 6LtBg8BA9PI= =haqg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --akKZr9L6Hm6aLOcr-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 29 10:13:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from complx.LF.net (complx.LF.net [195.206.130.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06098155DD for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 10:13:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pi@complx.LF.net) Received: by complx.LF.net (Smail3.2.0.103/complx.LF.net) via LF.net GmbH Internet Services from pi for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org for host hub.freebsd.org id m119tiw-000zyOC; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:12:06 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: Subject: Re: Modifying MAXLOGNAME ? To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:12:06 +0200 (CEST) From: "Kurt Jaeger" In-Reply-To: <4.1.19990727215803.009f5380@ms.securenet.net> from "Jean M. Vandette" at Jul 27, 1999 10:42:43 PM X-NCC-RegID: de.oberon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! > >Anyone ever changed > > > >MAXLOGNAME/UT_NAMESIZE > >I want to increase this. Maybe to, say, 64 chars instead of 16. > I don't know why you would want such a high number however, > if you're serious about this first get the full souces I would suggest > CVSUP to make sure everthing is up to date including the ports collection. > - Install your fresh system, including all the sources. > - Edit the value of UT_NAMESIZE in /usr/src/include/utmp.h to 64 (or > whatever you want) > - Edit the value of MAXLOGNAME in /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h to one > greater than the value you gave UT_NAMESIZE (eg. 65) Done. Works OK with 64/65, as of now, on a demo system. > Remake the world and your kernel. Note that there are a lot of ports > that use the UT_NAMESIZE parameter, eg. the POP server. You *must* > rebuild them on this machine for them to work properly. (ie. you cannot > install packages, or ports that were built on another system). OK, no problem with that. But now the other way around: If I compiled a application on that kind of mangled system and copied it to a "short-user" system -- assuming that the usernames on the "short-user" system are short-only-ones: Would these applications still work ? I booted the modified system, but with the old kernel and it still worked. I'll think this over. -- MfG/Best regards, Kurt Jaeger 21 years to go ! LF.net GmbH pi@LF.net Oberon.net GmbH pi@oberon.net Vor dem Lauch 23 fon +49 711 90074-23 Friedrich-Ebert-Str.1 D-70567 Stuttgart fax +49 711 7289041 40210 Duesseldorf fon +49 211 179253-11 For Redmond: "nuke the site from orbit -- it's the only way to be sure." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 29 13:18:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from snafu.adept.org (adsl-63-193-112-19.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.112.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3172D15608 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:18:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@snafu.adept.org) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by snafu.adept.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA24655; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 13:18:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hoskins To: Blake Freeburg Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD, Apache, and Frontpage.. In-Reply-To: <199907291406.JAA94436@mrdata.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, Blake Freeburg wrote: > The problem is that fpexe in the path is a file, not a directory? Any > configuration hints out there? http://www.freebsdzine.org/199907/features/fp2k.html Later, --mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 29 18: 6:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from voyager.bxscience.edu (voyager.bxscience.edu [167.206.32.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57EC71562F for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:06:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuyman@confusion.net) Received: from confusion.net (choates1-bp-57.dartmouth.edu [129.170.46.57]) by voyager.bxscience.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA32988 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 21:06:54 GMT Message-ID: <37A0FA1B.E9B71A6@confusion.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 21:04:28 -0400 From: Laurence Berland X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Big big mail servers Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Having read the slashdot thread on the subject, I'm wondering what sort of mail daemons (pop/IMAP,MTA,etc.) are available in the ports collection that get user accounts from somewhere other than /etc/password any ideas? Laurence To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 29 18:16:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from server1.siscom.net (server1.siscom.net [209.251.2.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4FD1F1566E for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 18:16:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from radams@siscom.net) Received: (qmail 98167 invoked from network); 30 Jul 1999 01:13:41 -0000 Received: from mp.siscom.net (HELO jason) ([209.251.2.49]) (envelope-sender ) by server1.siscom.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 Jul 1999 01:13:41 -0000 Message-ID: <009001beda29$9db742e0$3102fbd1@siscom.net> From: "Robert J. Adams" To: "Laurence Berland" , References: <37A0FA1B.E9B71A6@confusion.net> Subject: Re: Big big mail servers Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 21:18:01 -0400 Organization: SISCOM, Inc. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Laurence, Check out http://www.nrg4u.com/ .. which is the qmail-ldap project.. scales very nicely. -j --- Robert J. Adams radams@siscom.net http://www.siscom.net Looking to outsource news? http://www.newshosting.com SISCOM Network Administration - President, SISCOM Inc. Phone: 937-222-8150 FAX: 937-222-8153 ----- Original Message ----- From: Laurence Berland To: Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 9:04 PM Subject: Big big mail servers > Having read the slashdot thread on the subject, I'm wondering what sort > of mail daemons (pop/IMAP,MTA,etc.) are available in the ports > collection that get user accounts from somewhere other than > /etc/password > > any ideas? > > Laurence > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 29 19: 0:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.trace.net.tw (mail.trace.net.tw [202.80.128.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB249155F9 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:00:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ronald@trace.net.tw) X-Comments: ****** Message sent through an Trace account ****** X-http: ****** http://www.trace.com.tw ****** Received: from trace.net.tw (engineer.trace.net.tw [202.80.128.82]) by mail.trace.net.tw (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA00448 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:07:59 +0800 Message-ID: <37A108CC.2C274E83@trace.net.tw> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:07:08 +0800 From: Ronald Wiplinger Organization: Wang's Trace Tech. Enterprise Co., Ltd. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en,zh-TW MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp FreeBSD Subject: Power failure too long for UPS ;-( Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------EDA7B48ED599F6D0C3BD5A6A" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------EDA7B48ED599F6D0C3BD5A6A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi, The power failure was too long for the UPS, and one of the FreeBSD machines cannot come up anymore! It comes so far that it cleans the hard disk, but checks for ever with repeated messages: NFS Portmap: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Unable to send NFS Portmap: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Unable to send NFS Portmap: RPC: Port mapper failure - RPC: Unable to send .... How to fix this ? 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Manager fn:Ronald Wiplinger end:vcard --------------EDA7B48ED599F6D0C3BD5A6A-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 29 19: 0:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns3.zoomnet.net (ns3.zoomnet.net [206.230.102.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F5415626 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:00:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cygone@zoomnet.net) Received: from windows (cygone.zoomnet.net [208.32.49.7]) by ns3.zoomnet.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id VAA22857; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 21:59:23 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <003601beda2e$afc003a0$0200000a@windows.cygone.com> From: "Mitch Vincent" To: Cc: Subject: Non-Standard stuff Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 21:56:01 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You know, I was sitting here thinking to myself about the soon to come conversion to SQL databases for all of our auth (POP3 and RADIUS).. I'd like to avoid putting users in the system users/password file all together.. That's possible as far as POP3 and RADIUS go (use IDS-POP3d, PAM RADIUS module with RADIUS reading out of a MySQL database).. Then we run into mail.. There really isn't anyway to avoid putting users into the system user/password file when it comes to a MTA. Or is there? I'd really like to avoid a really "hacked" way of doing this if it is even possible.. And the solution would have to handle a fairly large number of users, for arguments sake lets say 10,000 users. Would anyone have any ideas? -Mitch "When all your plans fail, backup, re-group and press on. The only real failure is quitting..." -----Original Message----- From: Laurence Berland To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thursday, July 29, 1999 9:07 PM Subject: Big big mail servers >Having read the slashdot thread on the subject, I'm wondering what sort >of mail daemons (pop/IMAP,MTA,etc.) are available in the ports >collection that get user accounts from somewhere other than >/etc/password > >any ideas? > >Laurence > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 29 19:31:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sgi.com (sgi.SGI.COM [192.48.153.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32BF1155FB for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:31:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from raju@bhairavi.newdelhi.sgi.com) Received: from nodin.corp.sgi.com ([198.29.75.193]) by sgi.com (980327.SGI.8.8.8-aspam/980304.SGI-aspam: SGI does not authorize the use of its proprietary systems or networks for unsolicited or bulk email from the Internet.) via ESMTP id TAA02756; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:31:28 -0700 (PDT) mail_from (raju@bhairavi.newdelhi.sgi.com) Received: from sgindia.newdelhi.sgi.com (newdelhi.sgi.com [134.14.90.2]) by nodin.corp.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/980728.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id TAA62295; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:31:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bhairavi.newdelhi.sgi.com (bhairavi.newdelhi.sgi.com [134.14.90.52]) by sgindia.newdelhi.sgi.com (980427.SGI.8.8.8/970903.SGI.AUTOCF) via ESMTP id HAA62354; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 07:49:54 +0530 (IST) Received: (from raju@localhost) by bhairavi.newdelhi.sgi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA21954; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 07:37:04 +0530 (IST) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 07:37:04 +0530 (IST) Message-Id: <199907300207.HAA21954@bhairavi.newdelhi.sgi.com> From: Raj Mathur To: isp-tech@isp-tech.com Cc: Subject: Non-Standard stuff In-Reply-To: <003601beda2e$afc003a0$0200000a@windows.cygone.com> References: <003601beda2e$afc003a0$0200000a@windows.cygone.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.31 under 20.2 XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: raju@sgi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org LDAP. Will do everything you need. -- Raju >>>>> "Mitch" == Mitch Vincent writes: Mitch> You know, I was sitting here thinking to myself about the Mitch> soon to come conversion to SQL databases for all of our Mitch> auth (POP3 and RADIUS).. I'd like to avoid putting users in Mitch> the system users/password file all together.. Mitch> That's possible as far as POP3 and RADIUS go (use Mitch> IDS-POP3d, PAM RADIUS module with RADIUS reading out of a Mitch> MySQL database).. Then we run into mail.. There really Mitch> isn't anyway to avoid putting users into the system Mitch> user/password file when it comes to a MTA. Or is there? Mitch> I'd really like to avoid a really "hacked" way of doing Mitch> this if it is even possible.. And the solution would have Mitch> to handle a fairly large number of users, for arguments Mitch> sake lets say 10,000 users. Mitch> Would anyone have any ideas? Mitch> -Mitch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 29 19:32:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.trace.net.tw (mail.trace.net.tw [202.80.128.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D7191561C for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:32:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ronald@mail.trace.net.tw) X-Comments: ****** Message sent through an Trace account ****** X-http: ****** http://www.trace.com.tw ****** Received: from localhost (ronald@localhost) by mail.trace.net.tw (8.9.0/8.9.0) with SMTP id KAA00864; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:41:18 +0800 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:41:17 +0800 (CST) From: Ronald Wiplinger To: Mitch Vincent Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG, isp-tech@isp-tech.com Subject: Re: Non-Standard stuff In-Reply-To: <003601beda2e$afc003a0$0200000a@windows.cygone.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, Mitch Vincent wrote: > You know, I was sitting here thinking to myself about the soon to come > conversion to SQL databases for all of our auth (POP3 and RADIUS).. I'd like > to avoid putting users in the system users/password file all together.. > > That's possible as far as POP3 and RADIUS go (use IDS-POP3d, PAM RADIUS > module with RADIUS reading out of a MySQL database).. Then we run into > mail.. There really isn't anyway to avoid putting users into the system > user/password file when it comes to a MTA. Or is there? > > I'd really like to avoid a really "hacked" way of doing this if it is even > possible.. And the solution would have to handle a fairly large number of > users, for arguments sake lets say 10,000 users. > > Would anyone have any ideas? look at qmail, it supports different authentication methodes, including RADIUS, .... If you really need the machine for mail only than qmail, setup with no-user-id is the best. Than the people cannot even log in to machine, since they are not users there. > > -Mitch > > "When all your plans fail, backup, re-group and press on. The only real > failure is quitting..." > > -----Original Message----- > From: Laurence Berland > To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Date: Thursday, July 29, 1999 9:07 PM > Subject: Big big mail servers > > > >Having read the slashdot thread on the subject, I'm wondering what sort > >of mail daemons (pop/IMAP,MTA,etc.) are available in the ports > >collection that get user accounts from somewhere other than > >/etc/password > > > >any ideas? > > > >Laurence > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 29 19:48:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ms.securenet.net (ms.securenet.net [205.236.147.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09AD614E43 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 19:48:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vandj@securenet.net) Received: from office (office.securenet.net [205.236.147.3]) by ms.securenet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA23278 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 22:47:27 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990729224552.00b71db0@ms.securenet.net> X-Sender: vandj@ms.securenet.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 22:47:26 -0400 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: "Jean M. Vandette" Subject: Re: Modifying MAXLOGNAME ? In-Reply-To: References: <4.1.19990727215803.009f5380@ms.securenet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 07:12 PM 7/29/99 +0200, you wrote: >Hi! > >> >Anyone ever changed >> > >> >MAXLOGNAME/UT_NAMESIZE > >> >I want to increase this. Maybe to, say, 64 chars instead of 16. > >> I don't know why you would want such a high number however, >> if you're serious about this first get the full souces I would suggest >> CVSUP to make sure everthing is up to date including the ports collection. > >> - Install your fresh system, including all the sources. >> - Edit the value of UT_NAMESIZE in /usr/src/include/utmp.h to 64 (or >> whatever you want) >> - Edit the value of MAXLOGNAME in /usr/src/sys/sys/param.h to one >> greater than the value you gave UT_NAMESIZE (eg. 65) > >Done. Works OK with 64/65, as of now, on a demo system. > >> Remake the world and your kernel. Note that there are a lot of ports >> that use the UT_NAMESIZE parameter, eg. the POP server. You *must* >> rebuild them on this machine for them to work properly. (ie. you cannot >> install packages, or ports that were built on another system). > >OK, no problem with that. But now the other way around: > >If I compiled a application on that kind of mangled system >and copied it to a "short-user" system -- assuming that the usernames >on the "short-user" system are short-only-ones: Would these >applications still work ? > >I booted the modified system, but with the old >kernel and it still worked. > >I'll think this over. Never tried it that way, I would assume no. But like I said I have not done the reverse.... better still why would you bother or want to. Regards Jean M. Vandette ************************************************************************** *SecureNet Information Services Inc. 100 Alexis Nihon Blvd., Suite 283* *(514) 744-4242 Vox (514) 744-1552 Fax St. Laurent, Quebec H4M 2N7 * ********** Providing Quality Public Internet access since 1994************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jul 29 20:55:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from chia.rain.net (chia.rain.net [199.2.96.59]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D565D15645 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:55:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Geowires@winfinity.com) Received: from winfinity.com (mail.winfinity.com [206.163.146.5]) by chia.rain.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id UAA14318 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:55:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by winfinity.com from localhost (router,SLMail V2.7); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 21:05:31 -0700 Received: by winfinity.com from winfinity.com (206.163.146.47::mail daemon; unverified,SLMail V2.7); Thu, 29 Jul 1999 21:05:29 -0700 Message-ID: <37A1211A.85725D70@winfinity.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jul 1999 20:50:51 -0700 From: "Geowires" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 30 2: 8:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hq.seicom.net (hq.seicom.net [194.97.200.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4ED15651 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 02:08:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from awolf@hq.seicom.net) Received: by hq.seicom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA77810; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:08:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Andy Wolf Message-Id: <199907300908.LAA77810@hq.seicom.net> Subject: Re: apache+mod_ssl-1.3.6+2.3.6 and mm-1.0.9 In-Reply-To: <199907291324.PAA01348@ns.i-p-d.nl> from "holland@i-p-d.nl" at "Jul 29, 1999 03:11:08 pm" To: holland@i-p-d.nl Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 11:08:18 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, awolf@seicom.net X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Ron, > I am trying to compile the apache+mod_ssl-1.3.6+2.3.6 from the ports > collection. I keep running into an error. > [...] > ===> Building for apache+mod_ssl-1.3.6+2.3.6 > ===> src > ===> src/os/unix > cc -c -I/usr/local/include -I../../os/unix -I../../include > -DHARD_SERVER_LIMIT=512 > -DDEFAULT_PATH=\"/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin\" -funsigned-char > -DTARGET=\"apache\" - DMOD_SSL=203106 -DEAPI -DEAPI_MM -O -pipe > `../../apaci` os.c cc -c -I/usr/local/include -I../../os/unix > -I../../include -DHARD_SERVER_LIMIT=512 > -DDEFAULT_PATH=\"/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin\" -funsigned-char > -DTARGET=\"apache\" - DMOD_SSL=203106 -DEAPI -DEAPI_MM -O -pipe > `../../apaci` os-inline.c rm -f libos.a ar cr libos.a os.o os-inline.o > ranlib libos.a <=== src/os/unix ===> src/ap cc -c -I/usr/local/include > -I../os/unix -I../include -DHARD_SERVER_LIMIT=512 -DDEFA > ULT_PATH=\"/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin\" -funsigned-char > -DTARGET=\"apache\" -DMOD_S SL=203106 -DEAPI -DEAPI_MM -O -pipe > `../apaci` ap_execve.c cc -c -I/usr/local/include -I../os/unix > -I../include -DHARD_SERVER_LIMIT=512 -DDEFA > ULT_PATH=\"/usr/local/bin:/bin:/usr/bin\" -funsigned-char there seems to be a space character in between of the definition od MOD_SSL... > `TRUE' undeclared (first use this function) ap_mm.c:83: (Each > undeclared identifier is reported only once ap_mm.c:83: for each > function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 therefor MOD_S is declared to be TRUE which is probably not intended. I did the same under FreeBSD 3.2 a lot of times in the last weeks and never had this problem before, so I cant imagine how this happend... Try seaching the files "Makefile", "Makefile.pl", "configure" and perhaps the bsd.ports.mk. There shoud be the string -DMOD_S... regards...Andy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 30 6: 1: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch [62.48.0.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F54E157CD for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 06:00:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oppermann@pipeline.ch) Received: (qmail 58683 invoked from network); 30 Jul 1999 13:00:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO pipeline.ch) ([195.134.128.41]) (envelope-sender ) by mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 Jul 1999 13:00:00 -0000 Message-ID: <37A1A1ED.EAFD4A43@pipeline.ch> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:00:29 +0200 From: Andre Oppermann X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (WinNT; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Robert J. Adams" Cc: Laurence Berland , isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Big big mail servers References: <37A0FA1B.E9B71A6@confusion.net> <009001beda29$9db742e0$3102fbd1@siscom.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Robert J. Adams wrote: > > Laurence, > > Check out http://www.nrg4u.com/ .. which is the qmail-ldap project.. scales > very nicely. And it's developed on FreeBSD too :-) -- Andre Oppermann CEO / Geschaeftsfuehrer Internet Business Solutions Ltd. (AG) Hardstrasse 235, 8005 Zurich, Switzerland Fon +41 1 277 75 75 / Fax +41 1 277 75 77 http://www.pipeline.ch ibs@pipeline.ch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 30 7:42:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cobia.gulf.net (cobia.corp.gulf.net [206.105.61.192]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E15BA14F63 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 07:42:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phill@cobia.gulf.net) Received: from localhost (phill@localhost) by cobia.gulf.net (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA00518; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:44:05 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:44:04 -0500 (CDT) From: Phillip Salzman To: Laurence Berland Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Big big mail servers In-Reply-To: <37A0FA1B.E9B71A6@confusion.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A neat one that we use for our extra email server is called Cyrus. It allows us to let our customers create extra email accounts on-the-fly via a web interface. Providing them unlimited email accounts. -- Phillip Salzman On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, Laurence Berland wrote: > Having read the slashdot thread on the subject, I'm wondering what sort > of mail daemons (pop/IMAP,MTA,etc.) are available in the ports > collection that get user accounts from somewhere other than > /etc/password > > any ideas? > > Laurence > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 30 9: 4:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from plato.mentis.org (cc929562-a.hwrd1.md.home.com [24.6.133.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A07014D7D for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 09:04:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steven@mentis.org) Received: from mentis.org (dyn3.ellicott.mentis.org [192.168.0.203]) by plato.mentis.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA07811; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:02:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from steven@mentis.org) Message-ID: <37A1CCAF.5BC9A035@mentis.org> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 12:02:55 -0400 From: Steven Esbrandt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Phillip Salzman Cc: Laurence Berland , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Big big mail servers References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Cyrus works great for me. I use it in conjunction with kerberos. What web interface are you referring to? -Steven Phillip Salzman wrote: > A neat one that we use for our extra email server is called Cyrus. It > allows us to let our customers create extra email accounts on-the-fly via > a web interface. Providing them unlimited email accounts. > > -- > Phillip Salzman > > On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, Laurence Berland wrote: > > > Having read the slashdot thread on the subject, I'm wondering what sort > > of mail daemons (pop/IMAP,MTA,etc.) are available in the ports > > collection that get user accounts from somewhere other than > > /etc/password > > > > any ideas? > > > > Laurence > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 30 10:13:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from commnet.accn.org (commnet.accn.org [207.73.64.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D9B01576A for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 10:13:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ryanm@accn.org) Received: from accn.org (rocky.accn.org [207.73.64.8]) by commnet.accn.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA28832; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:12:57 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37A1DD00.3C1C4094@accn.org> Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 13:12:32 -0400 From: ryanm Reply-To: ryanm@accn.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Blake Freeburg Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Netscape popper wierdness References: <199907291402.JAA94366@mrdata.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There is a note on this issue on Qualcomm's site. http://www.eudora.com/freeware/qpop_faq.html#netscape.auth Hope this helps, Ryan Blake Freeburg wrote: > > Hello, > > Recently two clients have been having popper errors reading mail from my server, and I would like any hints. I am running FreeBSD 3.2, QPopper 2.53, and they are using netscape 4.x > > First, it works, but gives these errors (Netscape 4.6 client): > > Jul 28 15:44:00 mrdata popper[82078]: @dmz2a-240.tivoli.com: -ERR Too few arguments for the auth command. > Jul 28 15:44:01 mrdata popper[82078]: kathy@dmz2a-240.tivoli.com: -ERR Unknown command: "xsender". > > Second, it never reads mail, but gives this error (Netscape 4.5, 4.6): > > Jul 29 08:26:39 mrdata popper[93832]: cliffh@dial-125-22.ots.utexas.edu: -ERR Unknown command: "xsender". > Jul 29 08:26:44 mrdata popper[93832]: cliffh@dial-125-22.ots.utexas.edu: -ERR POP EOF received > > Any ideas/work arounds? All other mail clients are doing fine. > > Blake Freeburg > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 30 14:48: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cobia.corp.gulf.net (cobia.corp.gulf.net [206.105.61.192]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF74A14E24 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 14:48:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phill@cobia.corp.gulf.net) Received: from localhost (phill@localhost) by cobia.corp.gulf.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA01329; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 21:48:29 -0500 Date: Fri, 30 Jul 1999 21:48:29 -0500 (CDT) From: To: Steven Esbrandt Cc: Phillip Salzman , Laurence Berland , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Big big mail servers In-Reply-To: <37A1CCAF.5BC9A035@mentis.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just one that we wrote to add users to cyrus. It's pretty simple, really. It was done in PHP3. -- Phillip Salzman On Fri, 30 Jul 1999, Steven Esbrandt wrote: > Cyrus works great for me. I use it in conjunction with kerberos. > > What web interface are you referring to? > > -Steven > > Phillip Salzman wrote: > > > A neat one that we use for our extra email server is called Cyrus. It > > allows us to let our customers create extra email accounts on-the-fly via > > a web interface. Providing them unlimited email accounts. > > > > -- > > Phillip Salzman > > > > On Thu, 29 Jul 1999, Laurence Berland wrote: > > > > > Having read the slashdot thread on the subject, I'm wondering what sort > > > of mail daemons (pop/IMAP,MTA,etc.) are available in the ports > > > collection that get user accounts from somewhere other than > > > /etc/password > > > > > > any ideas? > > > > > > Laurence > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 30 15:57: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kremvax.demos.su (kremvax.demos.su [194.87.0.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A1B514DF6 for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:56:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sinbin.demos.su!yormungandr.demos.su!mishania@kremvax.demos.su) Received: by kremvax.demos.su (8.6.13/D) from 0@sinbin.demos.su [194.87.5.31] with ESMTP id CAA15253; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 02:55:30 +0400 Received: from yormungandr.demos.su by sinbin.demos.su with ESMTP id CAA13591; (8.6.12/D) Sat, 31 Jul 1999 02:54:38 +0400 Received: (from mishania@localhost) by yormungandr.demos.su (8.9.3/8.9.2) id CAA85450; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 02:53:45 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from mishania) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 02:53:44 +0400 From: "Mikhail A. Sokolov" To: phill@cobia.corp.gulf.net Cc: Steven Esbrandt , Phillip Salzman , Laurence Berland , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Big big mail servers Message-ID: <19990731025344.A85218@demos.su> References: <37A1CCAF.5BC9A035@mentis.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from phill@cobia.corp.gulf.net on Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 09:48:29PM -0500 X-Point-of-View: Gravity is myth, - the earth sucks. Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Jul 30, 1999 at 09:48:29PM -0500, phill@cobia.corp.gulf.net wrote: # Just one that we wrote to add users to cyrus. It's pretty simple, really. # It was done in PHP3. # On Fri, 30 Jul 1999, Steven Esbrandt wrote: # > Cyrus works great for me. I use it in conjunction with kerberos. # > What web interface are you referring to? # > Phillip Salzman wrote: # > > A neat one that we use for our extra email server is called Cyrus. It # > > allows us to let our customers create extra email accounts on-the-fly via # > > a web interface. Providing them unlimited email accounts. # > > > Having read the slashdot thread on the subject, I'm wondering what sort # > > > of mail daemons (pop/IMAP,MTA,etc.) are available in the ports # > > > collection that get user accounts from somewhere other than # > > > /etc/password # > > > any ideas? Check www.stalker.com/CommuniGatePro/ for their CommuniGate Pro web-based email solution, which supports IMAP, POP, SMTP, ACAP, PWD, web interface, of course, and such. No source is available; even though it's commercial software, evaluation license is nice. Answering your direct question, password can be gathered either from within the service's data or respective master.passwd. # > > > Laurence -- -mishania To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jul 30 22:29:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kiwi.datasys.net (kiwi.datasys.net [209.119.145.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E951503A for ; Fri, 30 Jul 1999 22:29:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ayan@kiwi.datasys.net) Received: (from ayan@localhost) by kiwi.datasys.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA50805 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 01:29:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ayan) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 01:29:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Ayan George Message-Id: <199907310529.BAA50805@kiwi.datasys.net> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(5) 10/07/98) To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: philosophy of web administration Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, I work at a rapidly growing ISP. Charged with the task of installing a new web server, I'm faced with this dilema: The current web server is Linux based. All users use their home directory to store web data -- not ~user/public_html. For a _long_ time, virtual domains were all kept in a separate directory. We've recently started putting customer's virtual domain information into subdirectories in their home directories like: ~user/mydomain.com/ I'd like to implement a standard web directory structure where a user has to place his or her web information in the standard public_html directory. If they want a domain, a subdirectory called domains will be added. Under it, directories for each of their domains would reside like: ~user/public_html/ ~user/domains/mydomain.com/ ~user/domains/myseconddomain.com/ ~user/domains/logs/ ( for log files for domains. ) I think this system will require less maintainance when customers create a domain and the files related to their user personal home pages and those for their domains never intersect. Another consideration is that we currently have approximately 300 customers who are used to the current way of publishing their web pages. Okay, my questions: (1) Does my web directory hierarcy make sense? (2) Is all of this worth bugging 300 customers for? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 31 6: 8:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from buffnet4.buffnet.net (buffnet4.buffnet.net [205.246.19.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D96FE14FED for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 06:08:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Received: from buffnet11.buffnet.net (buffnet11.buffnet.net [205.246.19.55]) by buffnet4.buffnet.net (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id JAA01219; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 09:08:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from shovey@buffnet.net) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 09:08:18 -0400 (EDT) From: Steve Hovey To: Ayan George Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: philosophy of web administration In-Reply-To: <199907310529.BAA50805@kiwi.datasys.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 31 Jul 1999, Ayan George wrote: > Hello all, > > I work at a rapidly growing ISP. Charged with the task of installing > a new web server, I'm faced with this dilema: > > The current web server is Linux based. All users use their home Linux cant handle the same load the same box with freebsd could (I know from experience) > directory to store web data -- not ~user/public_html. For a _long_ Thats bad user security since its usually not hard to view the entire contents of their home dir then if they do not have any pages installed. > time, virtual domains were all kept in a separate directory. We've > recently started putting customer's virtual domain information into > subdirectories in their home directories like: > > ~user/mydomain.com/ > > I'd like to implement a standard web directory structure where a > user has to place his or her web information in the standard > public_html directory. If they want a domain, a subdirectory called > domains will be added. Under it, directories for each of their > domains would reside like: > > ~user/public_html/ > ~user/domains/mydomain.com/ > ~user/domains/myseconddomain.com/ > ~user/domains/logs/ ( for log files for domains. ) > > I think this system will require less maintainance when customers > create a domain and the files related to their user personal home > pages and those for their domains never intersect. > > Another consideration is that we currently have approximately 300 > customers who are used to the current way of publishing their web > pages. > > Okay, my questions: > > (1) Does my web directory hierarcy make sense? > > (2) Is all of this worth bugging 300 customers for? If you expect to have 1000 or 2000 or anything over 300, then YES its a good idea to bug them now, then to bug an ever larger group down the expansion road. What we do is NFS mount directory space of servers dedicated to virt domains/commercial stuff, onto login boxes, then symlink each clients dom space into their home directory - the public_html then serves as a work space, for non-live testing of things under construction. They then copy to their live space which is phsyically on a different machine. In this way, as we cap out the resources of a machine, its just a matter of adding another web server, and another, and another. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 31 12: 9:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from filer2.isc.rit.edu (filer2.isc.rit.edu [129.21.3.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 002AB14D8A for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 12:09:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcptch@osfmail.isc.rit.edu) Received: from grace ("port 1551"@[129.21.3.102]) by osfmail.isc.rit.edu (PMDF V5.2-32 #34621) with SMTP id <0FFQ00K4BZRU1G@osfmail.isc.rit.edu> for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:38:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by grace (5.65v4.0/1.1.19.2/21Sep98-0910AM) id AA02029; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:39:06 -0400 Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:39:06 -0400 From: Jon Parise Subject: Re: philosophy of web administration In-reply-to: <199907310529.BAA50805@kiwi.datasys.net>; from ayan@kiwi.datasys.net on Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 01:29:29AM -0400 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mail-followup-to: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Message-id: <19990731143906.A1595@osfmail.isc.rit.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.3i X-Operating-System: OSF1 V4.0 (alpha) References: <199907310529.BAA50805@kiwi.datasys.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 01:29:29AM -0400, Ayan George wrote: > I'd like to implement a standard web directory structure where a > user has to place his or her web information in the standard > public_html directory. If they want a domain, a subdirectory called > domains will be added. Under it, directories for each of their > domains would reside like: > > ~user/public_html/ > ~user/domains/mydomain.com/ > ~user/domains/myseconddomain.com/ > ~user/domains/logs/ ( for log files for domains. ) > > (1) Does my web directory hierarcy make sense? It's pretty straightforward, and I'm sure the users will like it. You didn't mention how you have directory permissions set. If all users on the system below to a 'users' group, you could have one user browsing another users logs, for example. Anyway, that's one concern. If you enforce quotas on you system, this scheme will make things a little more difficult to work out as far as disk usage is concerned. What I did at the ISP I used to work with was devote a separate server to all things virtual/hosting related. It handle all mail traffic using qmail and vmailmgr so that I didn't need to run around creating accounts for bogus virtual email addresses and stuff. I ran the web servers and ftp servers in chroot'ed environments using a scheme like this: /virtual/domain.org/www /virtual/domain.org/ftp /virtual/domain.org/logs ... and so on. The most difficult part was educating users on where to place their files, etc., but I feel the gain in administrative ease and security was worth the setup and implementation time. This also kept the potential for nfs traffic down a bit, too. -- Jon Parise (parise@pobox.com) . Rochester Inst. of Technology http://www.pobox.com/~parise/ : Computer Science House Member To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jul 31 21: 1:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from stumpy.dannyland.org (stumpy.dannyland.org [209.157.133.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7510F15793 for ; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:01:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dannyman@stumpy.dannyland.org) Received: by stumpy.dannyland.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 090EB3C42; Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:00:22 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 31 Jul 1999 21:00:21 -0700 From: dannyman To: Jon Parise Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: philosophy of web administration Message-ID: <19990731210021.U94081@stumpy.dannyland.org> References: <199907310529.BAA50805@kiwi.datasys.net> <19990731143906.A1595@osfmail.isc.rit.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <19990731143906.A1595@osfmail.isc.rit.edu>; from Jon Parise on Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 02:39:06PM -0400 X-Loop: djhoward@uiuc.edu X-URL: http://www.dannyland.org/~dannyman/ Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 02:39:06PM -0400, Jon Parise wrote: > On Sat, Jul 31, 1999 at 01:29:29AM -0400, Ayan George wrote: [...] > /virtual/domain.org/www > /virtual/domain.org/ftp > /virtual/domain.org/logs > > ... and so on. > > The most difficult part was educating users on where to place their > files, etc., but I feel the gain in administrative ease and > security was worth the setup and implementation time. > > This also kept the potential for nfs traffic down a bit, too. At an ISP we worked at, all those directories were in a seperate file hierarchy, but with symlinks from the user's home directory. different machines served virtual domains and others server user data. :) -danny -- dannyman - http://www.dannyland.org/~dannyman/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message