From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jan 1 12:13:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA17692 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 12:13:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silverback.gorilla.net (silverback.gorilla.net [208.128.8.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA17687 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 12:13:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@gorilla.net) Received: from TOJ.org [208.143.84.29] by silverback.gorilla.net with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.07) id AAC93C7019A; Fri, 01 Jan 1999 14:06:33 CDT Received: (from tom@localhost) by TOJ.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id MAA02514; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 12:58:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from tom) Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1999 12:58:22 -0600 From: Tom Jackson To: rhh@ct.picker.com Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: fxtv on 3.0-current Message-ID: <19990101125821.A2503@slim.TOJ.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, Just resubscribed to multimedia and couldn't find anything on the list concerning this. The port build failed for me at the link stage. All errors involved undefined functions called from tif_zip.o. By adding -lz in the fxtv Makefile, the port built. Haven't tried to run it yet but could you confirm this fix. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Jan 1 21:13:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA10013 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 21:13:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA10005 for ; Fri, 1 Jan 1999 21:12:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id GAA16872 for freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 06:12:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 06:12:35 +0100 (CET) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199901020512.GAA16872@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: tosha 0.6 with VideoCD support Newsgroups: list.freebsd-multimedia Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have just released tosha 0.6. It is now capable of reading VideoCD tracks (CD-XA mode2/form2 with MPEG1 audio/video) which can be played with MpegTV (www.mpegtv.com). This should work with _any_ SCSI CD-ROM drive, even those that are not supported for CD digital audio reading. The software is available from http://www.fromme.com/tosha/ (an entry for the ports collection has been submitted, too, but it has not been committed yet). It compiles cleanly under FreeBSD 2.2.x and 3.0 (both "classic" SCSI system and new CAM system). The source code has undergone major changes since version 0.05, and given the fact that I have only limited testing capabilities it is quite possible that a few things don't work anymore which worked in v0.05. If you discover such a bug, please report it to me ASAP. Currently supported CD-ROM drives for CD-DA audio "grabbing" include popular drives from the following vendors: Toshiba, NEC, Philips, Plextor, Yamaha, TEAC. As well supported, but less well tested, are drives from DEC, IBM, Kodak, HP, Plasmon, Grundig, Mitsumi, Sony, Matshita, Pioneer, Ricoh, Nakamichi. Tosha 0.6 supports an rc configuration file which makes it easy to add support for other drives. Regards Oliver PS: Is there any other software beside MpegTV that is capable of playing MPEG1 system streams (both audio and video)? I tried several programs from the ports collection, but none of them really works (some don't support audio, some only support certain resolutions, etc.). -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jan 2 00:23:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA24902 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 00:23:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id AAA24896 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 00:23:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id HAA24229; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 07:15:02 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199901020615.HAA24229@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: tosha 0.6 with VideoCD support To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 07:15:02 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199901020512.GAA16872@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> from "Oliver Fromme" at Jan 2, 99 06:12:16 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Oliver, i noticed this new release of Tosha, and i am going to look at it to see if i can add VideoCD extraction ability to the atapi driver in FreeBSD. I wanted to point you to the FreeBSD port of the "cdd" audio grabbing utility, which now supports atapi disks. Can you have a look at it -- there are two things that could be integrated in Tosha, namely atapi support (it is really easy) and "jitter correction" (i.e. read overlapping blocks to compensate drives' seek problems). cheers luigi -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- Luigi RIZZO . EMAIL: luigi@iet.unipi.it . Dip. di Ing. dell'Informazione HTTP://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . Universita` di Pisa TEL/FAX: +39-050-568.533/522 . via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jan 2 01:03:34 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id BAA27593 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 01:03:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from norn.ca.eu.org (cr164328-a.abtsfd1.bc.wave.home.com [24.112.125.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA27587 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 01:03:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from norn@home.net) Received: from localhost (norn@localhost) by norn.ca.eu.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id BAA00321 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 01:03:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from norn@home.net) X-Authentication-Warning: norn.ca.eu.org: norn owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 01:03:06 -0800 (PST) From: Chris Piazza X-Sender: norn@norn.ca.eu.org To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ES1370 driver in -CURRENT Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I saw the es1370 driver get imported into -current a few days ago so I thought I'd see if it would work. Right now it seems to be detected but I can't use it: (This is with a SoundBlaster PCI64 (es1370)) norn@norn:[norn]% sudo cat /dev/sndstat cat: /dev/sndstat: Device not configured norn@norn:[temp]% mpg123 Night.mp3 Can't open /dev/dsp! norn@norn:[temp]% ls -l /dev/dsp lrwxrwxrwx 1 root wheel 4 Jan 1 15:39 /dev/dsp -> dsp1 dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.0-CURRENT #16: Thu Dec 31 17:18:25 PST 1998 norn@norn.ca.eu.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/NORN Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 167046858 Hz CPU: Pentium/P54C (167.05-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x52c Stepping=12 Features=0x1bf real memory = 67043328 (65472K bytes) config> quit avail memory = 62586880 (61120K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf0260000. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x02 on pci0.0.0 ide_pci0: rev 0xd0 int a irq 14 on pci0.0.1 chip1: rev 0x01 on pci0.1.0 chip2: rev 0x00 on pci0.2.0 vga0: rev 0x41 on pci0.9.0 es1: rev 0x00 int a irq 11 on pci0.10.0 pcm1: using I/O space register mapping at 0xe400 de0: rev 0x21 int a irq 10 on pci0.11.0 de0: SMC 21041 [10Mb/s] pass 2.1 de0: address 00:e0:29:10:af:8a Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: Probing for PnP devices: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 at 0x60-0x6f irq 1 on motherboard sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A lpt0 at 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa lpt0: Interrupt-driven port lp0: TCP/IP capable interface fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 on isa wdc0: unit 0 (wd0): wd0: 2442MB (5001696 sectors), 4962 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 on isa wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, intr, dma, iordis acd0: drive speed 2066KB/sec, 256KB cache acd0: supported read types: CD-DA acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: CD-ROM 120mm audio disc loaded, unlocked npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface de0: enabling 10baseT port Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug changing root device to wd0s2a ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates config file: machine "i386" cpu "I586_CPU" ident NORN maxusers 96 options INET options FFS options FFS_ROOT options MFS options MFS_ROOT options NFS options MSDOSFS options "CD9660" options "CD9660_ROOT" options PROCFS options "COMPAT_43" options UCONSOLE options FAILSAFE options USERCONFIG options VISUAL_USERCONFIG options "VM86" options PERFMON options "ICMP_BANDLIM" options "IDE_DELAY=8000" options SOFTUPDATES options USER_LDT options SYSVSHM options SYSVMSG options SYSVSEM options DDB config kernel root on wd0 controller isa0 controller eisa0 controller pci0 controller pnp0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 options "CMD640" controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio irq 15 disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 options ATAPI options ATAPI_STATIC device acd0 device sc0 at isa? port IO_KBD conflicts tty irq 1 device npx0 at isa? port IO_NPX irq 13 device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" flags 0x10 tty irq 4 device lpt0 at isa? port? tty irq 7 device de0 pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip pseudo-device bpfilter 4 options KTRACE # Sound code device pcm0 (I tried using the device pcm0 statement that's in LINT too - no luck) ---- I also tried grabbing the sources for snd from the beginning of December and using the patch made by Joachim Kuebart. In that case, cat /dev/sndstat did give me information, but I still couldn't get any sound to play. Any ideas? -Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jan 2 02:42:22 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA03935 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 02:42:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from silver.sms.fi (silver.sms.fi [194.111.122.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA03930 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 02:42:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pete@silver.sms.fi) Received: (from pete@localhost) by silver.sms.fi (8.8.8/8.7.3) id MAA25192; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:41:55 +0200 (EET) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:41:55 +0200 (EET) From: Petri Helenius To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: tosha 0.6 with VideoCD support Newsgroups: list.freebsd-multimedia In-Reply-To: <199901020512.GAA16872@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> References: <199901020512.GAA16872@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <13965.63428.246698.16920@silver.sms.fi> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by hub.freebsd.org id CAA03931 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Along the same lines, has anybody played with DVD video/audio extraction? It would be useful now that PentiumII machines can decode the content on the fly with their CPU... Pete Oliver Fromme writes: > Hi, > > I have just released tosha 0.6. It is now capable of reading > VideoCD tracks (CD-XA mode2/form2 with MPEG1 audio/video) which > can be played with MpegTV (www.mpegtv.com). This should work > with _any_ SCSI CD-ROM drive, even those that are not supported > for CD digital audio reading. > > The software is available from http://www.fromme.com/tosha/ (an > entry for the ports collection has been submitted, too, but it > has not been committed yet). It compiles cleanly under FreeBSD > 2.2.x and 3.0 (both "classic" SCSI system and new CAM system). > > The source code has undergone major changes since version 0.05, > and given the fact that I have only limited testing capabilities > it is quite possible that a few things don't work anymore which > worked in v0.05. If you discover such a bug, please report it > to me ASAP. > > Currently supported CD-ROM drives for CD-DA audio "grabbing" > include popular drives from the following vendors: Toshiba, > NEC, Philips, Plextor, Yamaha, TEAC. As well supported, but > less well tested, are drives from DEC, IBM, Kodak, HP, Plasmon, > Grundig, Mitsumi, Sony, Matshita, Pioneer, Ricoh, Nakamichi. > Tosha 0.6 supports an rc configuration file which makes it easy > to add support for other drives. > > Regards > Oliver > > PS: Is there any other software beside MpegTV that is capable > of playing MPEG1 system streams (both audio and video)? > I tried several programs from the ports collection, but none of > them really works (some don't support audio, some only support > certain resolutions, etc.). > > -- > Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany > (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) > > "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" > (Terry Pratchett) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jan 2 04:19:12 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA13290 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 04:19:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gilgamesch.bik-gmbh.de (gilgamesch.bik-gmbh.de [194.233.237.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA13285 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 04:19:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cracauer@gilgamesch.bik-gmbh.de) Received: (from cracauer@localhost) by gilgamesch.bik-gmbh.de (8.8.8/8.7.3) id NAA14736; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:18:00 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <19990102131759.A14728@cons.org> Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:17:59 +0100 From: Martin Cracauer To: Luigi Rizzo , Stephen Hocking-Senior Programmer PGS Tensor Perth Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: No sound with quake 2 on FreeBSD-2.2.8 References: <199812310735.PAA14245@ariadne.tensor.pgs.com> <199812310539.GAA19443@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.1i In-Reply-To: <199812310539.GAA19443@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>; from Luigi Rizzo on Thu, Dec 31, 1998 at 06:39:03AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In <199812310539.GAA19443@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>, Luigi Rizzo wrote: > > So when are you adding this functionality to the pcm driver? It's the only > > I will leave this to people with sufficient motivation to support > games. Hooks for mmap are already there, synchronization primitives are > already there, documentation on the internals of the "pcm" driver is > available, so there is really nothing stopping people from implementing > it -- not even time, since they want this primitive to play games. This is an early candidate for the quote of the year :-) Seriously, if someone wants Quake with sound on FreeBSD, they may try - Amancio's GUSmax driver - the ported Linux driver in sys/gnu for the awe64 - OSS http://www.se.opensound.com/ (said to be suboptimal on FreeBSD-3.x) I think the main point about the mmap interface is that you don't need a seperate thread or process to feed the card. Portably, that is, without surprises which write(2) blocks when on which driver/os. Martin -- %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% Martin Cracauer http://www.cons.org/cracauer BSD User Group Hamburg, Germany http://www.bsdhh.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jan 2 05:05:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA16620 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 05:05:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id FAA16612 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 05:05:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id LAA24450; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:56:09 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199901021056.LAA24450@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: No sound with quake 2 on FreeBSD-2.2.8 To: cracauer@cons.org (Martin Cracauer) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 11:56:09 +0100 (MET) Cc: shocking@prth.pgs.com, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <19990102131759.A14728@cons.org> from "Martin Cracauer" at Jan 2, 99 01:17:40 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > available, so there is really nothing stopping people from implementing > > it -- not even time, since they want this primitive to play games. > > This is an early candidate for the quote of the year :-) maybe. > I think the main point about the mmap interface is that you don't need > a seperate thread or process to feed the card. Portably, that is, > without surprises which write(2) blocks when on which driver/os. This is totally false. Mmapping the buffer will not save you from underruns. The only thing it gives you is the ability to replace samples already written to the driver (but not consumed by it) with new ones. Of course you have no (portable) way to control/enforce how much buffering occurs within the driver so in the end i wonder how much you gain in terms of portability. The mmap interface (someone please correct me if i am wrong) is only there because Windows uses it in some incarnation. cheers luigi -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- Luigi RIZZO . EMAIL: luigi@iet.unipi.it . Dip. di Ing. dell'Informazione HTTP://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . Universita` di Pisa TEL/FAX: +39-050-568.533/522 . via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jan 2 12:47:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA28114 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:47:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from asteroid.svib.ru (asteroid.svib.ru [195.151.166.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA28105 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 12:47:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru) Received: from minas-tirith.pol.ru (root@shuttle.svib.ru [195.151.166.144]) by asteroid.svib.ru (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA24462; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:46:48 +0300 (MSK) Received: from minas-tirith.pol.ru (tarkhil@minas-tirith.pol.ru [127.0.0.1]) by minas-tirith.pol.ru (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA01179; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:47:06 +0300 (MSK) (envelope-from tarkhil@minas-tirith.pol.ru) Message-Id: <199901022047.XAA01179@minas-tirith.pol.ru> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Luigi Rizzo cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tosha 0.6 with VideoCD support In-reply-to: Your message "Sat, 02 Jan 1999 07:15:02 +0100." <199901020615.HAA24229@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Reply-To: tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru X-URL: http://freebsd.svib.ru Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1999 23:47:05 +0300 From: Alex Povolotsky Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org <199901020615.HAA24229@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>Luigi Rizzo writes: >see if i can add VideoCD extraction ability to the atapi driver in >FreeBSD. I'd like to test it, I'm running FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE. Alex. -- Alexander B. Povolotsky [2:5020/145] [http://freebsd.svib.ru] [tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru] [Urgent messages: 234-9696 ÁÂ.#35442 or tarkhil@pager.express.ru] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jan 2 13:01:00 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA29440 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:01:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA29432 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:00:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA25030 for freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 22:00:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 22:00:34 +0100 (CET) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199901022100.WAA25030@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tosha 0.6 with VideoCD support Newsgroups: list.freebsd-multimedia Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Luigi, Luigi Rizzo wrote in list.freebsd-multimedia: > i noticed this new release of Tosha, and i am going to look at it to > see if i can add VideoCD extraction ability to the atapi driver in > FreeBSD. Should be easy. Reading CD-XA mode2/form2 sectors is pretty standard (at least much more standard than reading DA sectors). > I wanted to point you to the FreeBSD port of the "cdd" audio grabbing > utility, which now supports atapi disks. > Can you have a look at it -- there are two things that could be > integrated in Tosha, namely atapi support (it is really easy) and OK. Is there some documentation about that (except source)? I'd also like to know on which platforms it works (probably only on fairly recent 3.0-current, right?). If possible, the Makefile should automatically detect if the kernel supports APATI audio extraction, much like it currently detects the presence of CAM. I will also need testers, because I have no 3.0-current box with an APATI drive. > "jitter correction" (i.e. read overlapping blocks to compensate drives' > seek problems). I believe that JC is not worth the trouble. I now have (more or less) direct access to six different CD-ROM drives, and all of them work fine (without jitter) during my tests. IMO: If you want to do audio extraction, then buy a drive with decent firmware that supports it reasonably (and I think almost all of today's well-known brands should be OK for that). On the other hand, that's only my experience with SCSI drives. It might be a whole different story with APATI drives. Apart from that, I'm not able to develop, test and maintain code to perform JC without even having a CD-ROM drive that requires it. Sorry for that. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jan 2 13:41:15 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03048 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:41:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA03034 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:41:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id UAA25316; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 20:32:33 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199901021932.UAA25316@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: tosha 0.6 with VideoCD support To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 20:32:33 +0100 (MET) In-Reply-To: <199901022100.WAA25030@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> from "Oliver Fromme" at Jan 2, 99 10:00:15 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi Luigi, > > Luigi Rizzo wrote in list.freebsd-multimedia: ... > OK. Is there some documentation about that (except source)? nope, but apart from indentation problems the code is fairly modular and the atapi stuff is all confined in the new files cdd_atapisomething.[ch] > I'd also like to know on which platforms it works (probably > only on fairly recent 3.0-current, right?). If possible, the the port is for 3.0 and not cam-ified. I have a port for 2.2 as well if you need it (it is not committed yet) > Makefile should automatically detect if the kernel supports > APATI audio extraction, much like it currently detects the > presence of CAM. > > I will also need testers, because I have no 3.0-current box > with an APATI drive. i do, if that is the problem. > I believe that JC is not worth the trouble. I now have (more > or less) direct access to six different CD-ROM drives, and all > of them work fine (without jitter) during my tests. IMO: If > you want to do audio extraction, then buy a drive with decent > firmware that supports it reasonably (and I think almost all of this is what i did -- upgrade from an old SONY 2x to a samsung 32x which works very well. The problem is, ATAPI drives are not as good as SCSI ones, especially 2-3yrs old models, even brand name ones e.g. Sony. Plus, in many cases people do not have the option to upgrade, e.g. in the case of laptops. > Apart from that, I'm not able to develop, test and maintain > code to perform JC without even having a CD-ROM drive that > requires it. Sorry for that. no problem, it was just a suggestion. jitter correction is the main (and possibly only) reason i prefer cdd over all other audio grabbing utilities :( cheers luigi -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- Luigi RIZZO . EMAIL: luigi@iet.unipi.it . Dip. di Ing. dell'Informazione HTTP://www.iet.unipi.it/~luigi/ . Universita` di Pisa TEL/FAX: +39-050-568.533/522 . via Diotisalvi 2, 56126 PISA (Italy) -----------------------------------+------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jan 2 13:43:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA03205 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:43:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from labinfo.iet.unipi.it (labinfo.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id NAA03198 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 13:43:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it) Received: from localhost (luigi@localhost) by labinfo.iet.unipi.it (8.6.5/8.6.5) id UAA25329; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 20:33:58 +0100 From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <199901021933.UAA25329@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: tosha 0.6 with VideoCD support To: tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 20:33:58 +0100 (MET) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199901022047.XAA01179@minas-tirith.pol.ru> from "Alex Povolotsky" at Jan 2, 99 11:46:46 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > <199901020615.HAA24229@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>Luigi Rizzo writes: > >see if i can add VideoCD extraction ability to the atapi driver in > >FreeBSD. > > I'd like to test it, I'm running FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE. btw i don't have any CD with VideoCD data, any pointers to where i can get some ? luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jan 2 15:17:50 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA13562 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 15:17:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA13557 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 15:17:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA25985 for freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 3 Jan 1999 00:17:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 00:17:16 +0100 (CET) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199901022317.AAA25985@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tosha 0.6 with VideoCD support Newsgroups: list.freebsd-multimedia Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Luigi Rizzo wrote in list.freebsd-multimedia: > btw i don't have any CD with VideoCD data, any pointers to where > i can get some ? For example http://www.video-cds.com/ Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jan 2 21:32:40 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA14077 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 21:32:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from panzer.plutotech.com (panzer.plutotech.com [206.168.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA14072 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 21:32:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ken@panzer.plutotech.com) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.plutotech.com (8.9.1/8.8.5) id WAA52937; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 22:32:03 -0700 (MST) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" Message-Id: <199901030532.WAA52937@panzer.plutotech.com> Subject: Re: tosha 0.6 with VideoCD support In-Reply-To: <199901021932.UAA25316@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> from Luigi Rizzo at "Jan 2, 99 08:32:33 pm" To: luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo) Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1999 22:32:03 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL28s (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Luigi Rizzo wrote... > > Hi Luigi, > > > > Luigi Rizzo wrote in list.freebsd-multimedia: > ... > > OK. Is there some documentation about that (except source)? > > nope, but apart from indentation problems the code is fairly modular > and the atapi stuff is all confined in the new files > cdd_atapisomething.[ch] > > > I'd also like to know on which platforms it works (probably > > only on fairly recent 3.0-current, right?). If possible, the > > the port is for 3.0 and not cam-ified. I have a port for 2.2 as well if > you need it (it is not committed yet) cdd is one of the utilities that I have wanted to port to CAM for a long time, but I haven't gotten around to it. (i.e., if someone else wants to do it, go right ahead) I ported tosha to CAM instead because it was simpler and easier to do. cdd makes extensive use of the old SCSI library's scsireq_foo() functions. libcam has compatibility functions for most all of the old scsireq functions, though. You just have to convert the scsireq structures to the new CAM CCB structure. If anyone undertakes a port of cdd to CAM, I will be glad to provide assistance. It might be helpful to do something similar to what Oliver did in tosha, and have a generic function to build and send SCSI commands. That way, you could avoid making the code a mass of #ifdefs. Or, a more ambitious project would be to port tosha or cdd to either xmcd's libdi, or Joerg Schilling's libscg. (there's already a CD-DA audio extractor that uses Joerg's libscg, and that is cdda2wav. I think its feature set is somewhat different than cdd or tosha, though.) Of course, there's something to be said for simple, purpose-built applications. Adding support for other platforms is nice, but right now tosha and cdd work just fine for FreeBSD. :) Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@plutotech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Jan 2 23:45:35 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA25199 for freebsd-multimedia-outgoing; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:45:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA25189 for ; Sat, 2 Jan 1999 23:45:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from cs.strath.ac.uk (sporty.dmem.strath.ac.uk [130.159.202.1]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA16656 Sun, 3 Jan 1999 07:44:54 GMT Message-ID: <368F2166.817B4647@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1999 07:51:02 +0000 From: Roger Hardiman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.6-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Luigi Rizzo , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Where to get VideoCD discs References: <199901021933.UAA25329@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Luigi, There is a place in the UK which sells VideoCD disks cheap. 1 for 4.99 UK Pounds (roughly $7.50) 3 for 9.99 UK Pounds (roughly $15) (add our 17.5% sales tax too) Anyway, the web site is http://www.sterling-management.co.uk They also sell discontinued and end-of-line hardware. I've ordered from them before. I got my ISA PCMCIA adapters from them. They also have a hardware MPEG1 decoder for 30 pounds. Bye Roger Roger Hardiman Strathclyde University Telepresence Group p.s. If they are not happy with international orders I can order some and post them on to you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message