From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Sep 12 12:34:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from zed.ludd.luth.se (zed.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A06F214BE9 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 12:34:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pantzer@speedy.ludd.luth.se) Received: from speedy.ludd.luth.se (pantzer@speedy.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.164]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id VAA19771 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:34:13 +0200 Message-Id: <199909121934.VAA19771@zed.ludd.luth.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: New pcm driver and slow sound Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 21:34:13 +0200 From: Mattias Pantzare Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I upgraded my -current kernel today. Sound works fine in x11amp, but if I use splay then the sound plays at half (or slower) speed. A kernel from 990901 works for both x11amp and splay. From dmesg: pcm0: at port 0x534-0x537,0x388-0x38f,0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 1,0 on isa0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Sep 12 15:34:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mutant.clue.com (ericr-to-hub.village.org [204.144.255.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7290D14D84 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 15:34:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from geoff@mutant.clue.com) Received: from mutant.clue.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mutant.clue.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA04460 for ; Sun, 12 Sep 1999 16:34:37 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from geoff@mutant.clue.com) Message-Id: <199909122234.QAA04460@mutant.clue.com> To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: no sound with xaudio or rplay on Soundblaster Vibra16X Date: Sun, 12 Sep 1999 16:34:37 -0600 From: Geoff Lassner Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org a 486/66DX running FreeBSD 3.2 with a soundblaster Vibra16X I have got sound partially (?) working using the pcm drivers... I setup the config for it like so: 1) added this line to /boot/loader.rc: load -t userconfig_script /boot/userconfig 2) created the file /boot/userconfig with one line in it: pnp 1 0 os enable irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 5 port0 0x220 port1 0x330 port2 0x388 3) created the snd1 device: cd /dev ./MAKEDEV snd1 What is happening is I can play sound via: cat foo.au > /dev/audio Unfortunately I cannot play any wav's with rplay or listen to any mp3's with xaudio. rplay gives no error messages and does not play any sound. xaudio plays no sound and has an error message after breaking out with control-C: timeout flushing dbuf_out, chan 1 cnt 0xff00 flags 0x000001c1 I don't know if this is related to the problem or if it is benign I have tried adjusting the volume with the mixer command: mixer pcm 100 but still no sound... I am stumped, if anyone can let me know of anything that will help test or get this thing working please let me know! sndstat gives: FreeBSD Audio Driver (981001) Jul 7 1999 00:08:07 Installed devices: pcm1: at 0x220 irq 5 dma 1:5 sequencer1: at 0x388 (not functional) (If anyone can also help me with this sequencer error that would be great too) Thank You, Geoffrey To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Sep 13 0:27:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45CF314FD6 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 00:27:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from igiveup@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id CAA12275; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 02:27:00 -0500 (CDT) Received: from stl-wa37-21.ix.netcom.com(207.220.43.21) by dfw-ix1.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma012244; Mon Sep 13 02:26:46 1999 Message-ID: <37DCA733.470EE172@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 00:26:43 -0700 From: Ben Speirs Organization: X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Rabson Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New 3D software available References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug Rabson wrote: > > On Sat, 11 Sep 1999, Stefan Esser wrote: > > > On 1999-09-04 23:43 +0200, Marc van Woerkom wrote: > > > Hello Doug! > > > > > > So, I tried to build QDraw 0.5 under -CURRENT. > > > This is my recipe to get it compiled. > > > > > > Should I roll a port? > > > > Ummm, I have a completed port waiting for a week already, but had no time > > to commit it ... > > Cool! Can I see it? > > -- > Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com > Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 > I have it working for 3.2-stable. I would not want to roll it into a port since it requires some magic mumbo-jumbo to work. Is there any way I can put together a binary package so other 'stable-izers' can have a look at the demo programs? Would I have to recompile them statically linked? ... Maybe I should wait for Doug and Co. to get things sorted out first. Anyway, these things are pretty cool. Even with software rendering on my PPro200 & a Matrox Millennium using Mesa is neat to watch. It makes me want to run out and install a 3D card. -- -Ben Speirs To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Sep 13 0:40: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0831F15566 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 00:40:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA02017; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 00:39:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199909130739.AAA02017@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Ben Speirs Cc: Doug Rabson , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New 3D software available In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Sep 1999 00:26:43 PDT." <37DCA733.470EE172@ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 00:39:01 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Odd, I had no problems at all in compiling QDraw on 4.0-current. -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Sep 13 0:54:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3050D150DB for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 00:54:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from igiveup@ix.netcom.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id CAA09208; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 02:53:59 -0500 (CDT) Received: from stl-wa37-21.ix.netcom.com(207.220.43.21) by dfw-ix14.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma009202; Mon Sep 13 02:53:42 1999 Message-ID: <37DCAD82.1469E2F5@ix.netcom.com> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 00:53:38 -0700 From: Ben Speirs Organization: X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Amancio Hasty Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New 3D software available References: <199909130739.AAA02017@rah.star-gate.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Amancio Hasty wrote: > > Odd, I had no problems at all in compiling QDraw on 4.0-current. > > -- > > Amancio Hasty > hasty@rah.star-gate.com 4.0-current has egcs (or egcc or whatever the compiler is called) installed as the base compiler. Stable does not. Even adding the port that is available does not do the trick. Doug had to roll me a special port of egcs-1.1.2 before we got it to work. I also had to make a couple mods to the config file and rename a ".h" include file. It was pretty tricky, at least it was for me. -- -Ben Speirs To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Sep 13 1: 1:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1937814D25 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 01:01:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA02199; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 01:01:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199909130801.BAA02199@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Ben Speirs Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New 3D software available In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Sep 1999 00:53:38 PDT." <37DCAD82.1469E2F5@ix.netcom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 01:01:04 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thats fine and the port is not that difficult. I hope someone can roll out a port for 4.0-current since that is easy and perhaps a port for 3.XX . Take Care > Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > > Odd, I had no problems at all in compiling QDraw on 4.0-current. > > > > -- > > > > Amancio Hasty > > hasty@rah.star-gate.com > > 4.0-current has egcs (or egcc or whatever the compiler is called) installed as > the base compiler. Stable does not. Even adding the port that is available > does not do the trick. Doug had to roll me a special port of egcs-1.1.2 > before we got it to work. I also had to make a couple mods to the config file > and rename a ".h" include file. It was pretty tricky, at least it was for me. > -- > -Ben Speirs -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Sep 13 1:47:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA4A614F78 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 01:47:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00616; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:48:49 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 09:48:49 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Amancio Hasty Cc: Ben Speirs , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New 3D software available In-Reply-To: <199909130739.AAA02017@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Amancio Hasty wrote: > Odd, I had no problems at all in compiling QDraw on 4.0-current. Ben's problems were mainly with gcc-2.95.1 (current uses egcs-1.1.2 as you know). The egcs folks have managed to break templates in such a way that it will no longer compile my maths templates and I haven't found a workaround yet. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Sep 13 3:49:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from satan.tmbtax.ru (satan.tmbtax.ru [195.19.124.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB4E15004 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 03:49:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anthony@tmbtax.ru) Received: from tmbtax.ru (localhost.tmbtax.ru [127.0.0.1]) by satan.tmbtax.ru (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA09456 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:48:39 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from anthony@tmbtax.ru) Message-ID: <37DCD687.7483D1C7@tmbtax.ru> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:48:39 +0400 From: "áÎÔÏÎ áÎÁÔÏÌØÅ×ÉÞ âÏÒÏÄÉÎ" Reply-To: anthony@tmbtax.ru Organization: çÏÓîé ÐÏ ôÁÍÂÏ×ÓËÏÊ ÏÂÌÁÓÔÉ X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: [Q] OpenGL support Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, all! I've built /usr/ports/games/flightgear, but with enbabled textures & fog it runs toooo slooooow :(, but examples for Mesa-3.0 (like morph3d) runs enough fast & smooth. Why? HW: i740 w/ 8MB SGRAM, Celeron-300A, 128MB RAM -- SY, anthony@tmbtax.ru ICQ# 35936383 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Sep 13 12:33:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E86214D9B; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 12:33:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial-lind-25.netcologne.de [195.14.250.25]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA13518; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:33:33 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA02609; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:32:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 21:32:59 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199909131932.VAA02609@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: se@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: van.woerkom@netcologne.de, dfr@nlsystems.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <19990911123657.C866@dialup124.zpr.uni-koeln.de> (message from Stefan Esser on Sat, 11 Sep 1999 12:36:57 +0200) Subject: Re: New 3D software available Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de References: <199909042143.XAA12273@oranje.my.domain> <19990911123657.C866@dialup124.zpr.uni-koeln.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hallo Stefan! > > This is my recipe to get it compiled. > > > > Should I roll a port? > > Ummm, I have a completed port waiting for a week already, but had no time > to commit it ... No problem, beam it up! :) I had put no extra work into it, except that I tried the Win32 binary on a NT box with a Matrox G200 in the meantime. (*) Part due to having not much time, part due to waiting for GEL http://gel.urstudios.com/ and a possible QDraw update. (*) Strange comparsion was that, by the way: The full screen demo 'ripples' ran very fast under NT/G200/PII-300, but 'triangle', a demo that runs in a window, and some others ran very slow compared to FreeBSD/TNT/K6-300. Is it possible that a G200 does full screen acceleration only? Or my driver setting suck? Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Sep 13 13:44:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7EA015121; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:44:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial-lind-25.netcologne.de [195.14.250.25]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA18416; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:44:22 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA03043; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:43:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:43:49 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199909132043.WAA03043@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: stuyman@confusion.net Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <37DB2319.B208609@confusion.net> (message from Laurence Berland on Sat, 11 Sep 1999 23:50:49 -0400) Subject: Re: PCI sound Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de References: <37DB2319.B208609@confusion.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > What's the status of PCI sound under FreeBSD? LINT doesnt even mention > them, and a search of the mailing lists makes some unclear mention that > pcm0 supports a specific Soundblaster PCI soundcard. The Ensoniq AudioPCI soundcard is supported. Its chip (ES1370 and successor ES1371) has been used in many similiar PCI cards by other vendors. Later, Creative Labs bought Ensoniq and released the Soundblaster PCI 128 and SB PCI 64 cards. The original AudioPCI is probably closest to the SB PCI 128, the SB PCI 64 is reported to be equipped with a bit lesser quality CODEC. There is a nice web site dedicated to AudioPCI cards: http://www.netexcite.com/audiopci/index.html That is why I would either recommend a plain old Soundblaster 16 or a AudioPCI clone. I have no clue if there is any support for the Soundblaster Live! card. Last time I bothered the specs were not available. Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Sep 13 13:50:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DB0615634 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 13:50:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial-lind-25.netcologne.de [195.14.250.25]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA18826; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:50:13 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA03049; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:49:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 22:49:40 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199909132049.WAA03049@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: igiveup@ix.netcom.com Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <37DCAD82.1469E2F5@ix.netcom.com> (message from Ben Speirs on Mon, 13 Sep 1999 00:53:38 -0700) Subject: Re: New 3D software available Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de References: <199909130739.AAA02017@rah.star-gate.com> <37DCAD82.1469E2F5@ix.netcom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Doug had to roll me a special port of egcs-1.1.2 > before we got it to work. I also had to make a couple mods to the config file > and rename a ".h" include file. It was pretty tricky, at least it was for me. Could be that it will take a while until egcs-1.1.2 and follow up gcc-2.95 will be made default compiler for stable. I have no idea who will decide this. Maybe you could tell the maintainer from the egcs in the ports collection what you had to change (if others benefit from the changes as well). Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Sep 13 14:20:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from munin.odin-corporation.com (fredriks-2.pr.mcs.net [205.164.50.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6617C14CC5 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:20:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lars@odin-corporation.com) Received: from odin-corporation.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by munin.odin-corporation.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA07775 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 16:20:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lars@odin-corporation.com) Message-ID: <37DD6AAD.4EDFFF45@odin-corporation.com> Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 16:20:45 -0500 From: Lars Fredriksend_window_rect Organization: Odin Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: no, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Intel 263 Codec format anyone? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Does anyone have a pointer to docs for the Intel 263 codec format - or is this yet another one of the proprietary formats that Intel have come up with? Lars To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Sep 13 14:56: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF948150FE for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:56:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07435; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:55:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199909132155.OAA07435@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Lars Fredriksend_window_rect Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel 263 Codec format anyone? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 13 Sep 1999 16:20:45 CDT." <37DD6AAD.4EDFFF45@odin-corporation.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 14:55:07 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't have the specs for H.263 handy;however, H.263 is an international standard . UCL release of VIC includes an H.263 codec. You can take a look in: http://www-mice.cs.ucl.ac.uk/multimedia/software Cheers -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Sep 13 15: 6:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fasterix.frmug.org (d092.paris-89.cybercable.fr [212.198.89.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F03EA14D7B for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 15:06:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pb@fasterix.frmug.org) Received: (from pb@localhost) by fasterix.frmug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/pb-19990315) id AAA09958; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 00:05:23 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19990914000522.A9508@fasterix.frmug.fr.net> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 00:05:22 +0200 From: Pierre Beyssac To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New 3D software available References: <199909100024.CAA02216@oranje.my.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.92.8i In-Reply-To: <199909100024.CAA02216@oranje.my.domain>; from Marc van Woerkom on Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 02:24:28AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Sep 10, 1999 at 02:24:28AM +0200, Marc van Woerkom wrote: > Anyway, if you want that FreeBSD port, get it here: > > http://www.freebsd.org/~3d/distfiles/glx/XF3.3.3.1 I've built a binary glx.so for some time. I've updated it just recently (added a fpsetmask(0L) at the beginning). It works for me with a stock XFree 3.3.3.1, 3.3.4 or 3.3.5. For the binaries (glx.so and libGL.so.1): http://www.enst.fr/~beyssac/freebsd/riva-glx-freebsd.tar.gz After using Chris Piazza's XF86_SVGA for a while, I found out that the regular XFree releases come with dynamic loading enabled since at least 3.3.3.1, so I don't quite understand why everyone tries to recompile a custom XFree :-) -- Pierre Beyssac pb@fasterix.frmug.org pb@fasterix.freenix.org {Free,Net,Open}BSD, Linux : il y a moins bien, mais c'est plus cher Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Sep 13 15:19:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.volant.org (phoenix.volant.org [205.179.79.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F7DB155B7 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 15:19:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patl@phoenix.volant.org) Received: from asimov.phoenix.volant.org ([205.179.79.65]) by phoenix.volant.org with smtp (Exim 1.92 #8) id 11QeRg-00066G-00; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 15:19:32 -0700 Received: from localhost by asimov.phoenix.volant.org (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id PAA25556; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 15:19:19 -0700 Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 15:19:19 -0700 (PDT) From: patl@phoenix.volant.org Reply-To: patl@phoenix.volant.org Subject: Re: Intel 263 Codec format anyone? To: Amancio Hasty Cc: Lars Fredriksend_window_rect , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199909132155.OAA07435@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 13-Sep-99 at 14:56, Amancio Hasty (hasty@rah.star-gate.com) wrote: > I don't have the specs for H.263 handy;however, H.263 is an international > standard . > > UCL release of VIC includes an H.263 codec. You can take a look > in: > > http://www-mice.cs.ucl.ac.uk/multimedia/software Unfortunately, I.263 differs from the H.263 standard. Players that only know H.263 (e.g., xanim) can't play the Intel version. -Pat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Sep 13 15:46:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fasterix.frmug.org (d092.paris-89.cybercable.fr [212.198.89.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBBA515630 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 15:46:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pb@fasterix.frmug.org) Received: (from pb@localhost) by fasterix.frmug.org (8.9.3/8.9.3/pb-19990315) id AAA14983; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 00:46:27 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <19990914004626.A14977@fasterix.frmug.fr.net> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 00:46:26 +0200 From: Pierre Beyssac To: Pierre Beyssac , van.woerkom@netcologne.de, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New 3D software available References: <199909100024.CAA02216@oranje.my.domain> <19990914000522.A9508@fasterix.frmug.fr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.92.8i In-Reply-To: <19990914000522.A9508@fasterix.frmug.fr.net>; from Pierre Beyssac on Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 12:05:22AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Sep 14, 1999 at 12:05:22AM +0200, Pierre Beyssac wrote: > the regular XFree releases come with dynamic loading enabled since > at least 3.3.3.1, so I don't quite understand why everyone tries > to recompile a custom XFree :-) Uh, turns out I was wrong. Dynamic loading is enabled since 3.3.4 only... Now I understand. -- Pierre Beyssac pb@fasterix.frmug.org pb@fasterix.freenix.org {Free,Net,Open}BSD, Linux : il y a moins bien, mais c'est plus cher Free domains: http://www.eu.org/ or mail dns-manager@EU.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Sep 13 17:38:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F2A014CC7 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 17:35:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (doconnor@cain [203.38.152.97]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA20512; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:05:32 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990914100532:7396=_"; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature" In-Reply-To: <37DCD687.7483D1C7@tmbtax.ru> Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 10:05:32 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: XXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXX Subject: RE: [Q] OpenGL support Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format --_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990914100532:7396=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 13-Sep-99 XXXXX XXXXXXXXXXX XXXXXXX wrote: > I've built /usr/ports/games/flightgear, but with enbabled textures & fog > it runs toooo slooooow :(, but examples for Mesa-3.0 (like morph3d) runs > enough fast & smooth. Doing fog effects in software is very expensive.. Or you could get a video card which can do fogging in hardware (and is supported under FreeBSD..) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum --_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990914100532:7396=_ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.3ia iQCVAwUBN92YVFbYW/HEoF9pAQHkTwP9HttCyKnp1buPRyXpbYFv/9Kl7/gAHvP1 kfQZgY4lJXKm8HdqHFHHbH6wGZ+BlSYfzMRwGGpJO23RT1ZzzCjFi4f2XgvC/CLG TIsV9E5mTwLydrQ3/vl1i+bRzzAjtsNqMhmGLdM2huRQiQuZpsXM3smVhJ41mPXe x31E1qcRIFY= =fQAx -----END PGP MESSAGE----- --_=XFMail.1.3.p0.FreeBSD:990914100532:7396=_-- End of MIME message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Sep 13 23:22:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail-green.research.att.com (H-135-207-30-103.research.att.com [135.207.30.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D4814E37 for ; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:22:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fenner@research.att.com) Received: from alliance.research.att.com (alliance.research.att.com [135.207.26.26]) by mail-green.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 475C61E013 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 02:22:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from windsor.research.att.com (windsor.research.att.com [135.207.26.46]) by alliance.research.att.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA23526 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 02:22:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fenner Received: (from fenner@localhost) by windsor.research.att.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.5) id XAA20353; Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:22:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199909140622.XAA20353@windsor.research.att.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: es1371: input select? Date: Mon, 13 Sep 1999 23:22:08 -0700 Versions: dmail (solaris) 2.2e/makemail 2.8u Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've had success playing mp3's using Russell Cattelan's patch to es1370.c (from ftp://ftp.thebarn.com/outgoing/es1371.patch) -- but the code to select an input source seems to be commented out. I'd like to use this card for conferencing, so being able to record from the device is important =) Has anyone done this yet? Thanks, Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Sep 14 1:15:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 107FB14C2C; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 01:15:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA73683; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:16:14 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:16:14 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Marc van Woerkom Cc: se@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New 3D software available In-Reply-To: <199909131932.VAA02609@oranje.my.domain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 13 Sep 1999, Marc van Woerkom wrote: > Hallo Stefan! > > > > This is my recipe to get it compiled. > > > > > > Should I roll a port? > > > > Ummm, I have a completed port waiting for a week already, but had no time > > to commit it ... > > No problem, beam it up! :) > > I had put no extra work into it, except that I tried the Win32 binary > on a NT box with a Matrox G200 in the meantime. (*) > > Part due to having not much time, part due to waiting for GEL > > http://gel.urstudios.com/ > > and a possible QDraw update. A QDraw update will be a few weeks I expect. I'm currently working on something else (a custom exporter for Maya for our game artists to use). > > > (*) Strange comparsion was that, by the way: > > The full screen demo 'ripples' ran very fast under NT/G200/PII-300, > but 'triangle', a demo that runs in a window, and some others ran > very slow compared to FreeBSD/TNT/K6-300. > > Is it possible that a G200 does full screen acceleration only? > Or my driver setting suck? The slowdown is caused by an ugly workaround which I put in the even handling system on win32 to try and handle some problems with NT threads. I hope to have a better solution for the next release. If you have win9x or win2k, you might try the DX driver instead of OpenGL which is a *lot* faster. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Sep 14 8:40:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail-green.research.att.com (H-135-207-30-103.research.att.com [135.207.30.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B46A914BFD for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:40:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fenner@research.att.com) Received: from alliance.research.att.com (alliance.research.att.com [135.207.26.26]) by mail-green.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFF7A1E019 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:40:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from windsor.research.att.com (windsor.research.att.com [135.207.26.46]) by alliance.research.att.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id LAA04489 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:40:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fenner Received: (from fenner@localhost) by windsor.research.att.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.5) id IAA26665; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199909141540.IAA26665@windsor.research.att.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=19701020; charset=US-ASCII To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Anyone have a YMF740 driver? Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:40:07 -0700 Versions: dmail (solaris) 2.2e/makemail 2.8u Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --19701020 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Howdy, My wife has an Intel SE440BX-2 motherboard with a YMF740 on board. With all this talk about PCI audio, is there a driver for it? I tried to write a cheap hack which enabled the SB emulation and then let pcm probe it; it did allow pcm to probe it but DMA transfers didn't really work. It's entirely possible that they never would, since I don't know how many of the compatibility pins are attached on this motherboard. I attach my hack in case anyone can improve upon it. I found the YMF740 datasheet at some non-obvious place at yamaha's web site (I started at yamaha.com but then the datasheet was at some other yamahafoo.com domain) but I can forward it to anyone who wants it. Thanks, Bill --19701020 Content-Type: text/plain; name="ymf740.c"; x-unix-mode=0644 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="ymf740.c" #include "pci.h" #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #include #if NPCI != 0 static const char *ymf_pci_probe __P((pcici_t, pcidi_t)); static void ymf_pci_attach __P((pcici_t, int)); #define YMF740C_PCI_ID 0x000c1073 static u_long nymf = 0; static struct pci_device ymf_pci_driver = { "ymf", ymf_pci_probe, ymf_pci_attach, &nymf, NULL }; DATA_SET(pcidevice_set, ymf_pci_driver); static const char * ymf_pci_probe(pcici_t tag, pcidi_t type) { if (type == YMF740C_PCI_ID) return ("Yamaha YMF740C [legacy mode]"); return (NULL); } static void ymf_pci_attach(pcici_t config_id, int unit) { u_int32_t data; /* turn on legacy support */ #define YMF_REVISION_ID 0x08 #define YMF_LEGACY_AUDIO 0x40 #define YMF_LEGACY_AUDIO_DISABLE 0x8000 data = pci_cfgread(config_id, YMF_LEGACY_AUDIO, 4); data &= ~YMF_LEGACY_AUDIO_DISABLE; pci_conf_write(config_id, YMF_LEGACY_AUDIO, data, 4); /* set legacy IRQ mode, and map my INTA# to IRQ 5? */ /* I think it's really DMA that's not really working. */ /* Could set up as SB and then call pcminit() */ printf("ymf%d: rev.%d. set up legacy audio support.\n", pci_cfgread(config_id, YMF_REVISION_ID, 1), unit); return; } #endif /* NPCI */ --19701020-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Sep 14 8:49:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mamba-e.gsfc.nasa.gov (mamba-e.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.166.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D22214BFD for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 08:49:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uhl@mamba-e.gsfc.nasa.gov) Received: (from uhl@localhost) by mamba-e.gsfc.nasa.gov (8.8.5/8.8.4) id LAA09278; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:49:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 11:49:30 -0400 (EDT) From: George Uhl Message-Id: <199909141549.LAA09278@mamba-e.gsfc.nasa.gov> To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, fenner@research.att.com Subject: Re: Anyone have a YMF740 driver? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-MD5: Wz23jnR0s3q+RQr/K4Wk9Q== Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org OSS supports the Yamaha YMF740 for FreeBSD. I have a Yamaha DS-XG PCI card. OSS supports it now too. www.opensound.com George Uhl > > Howdy, > > My wife has an Intel SE440BX-2 motherboard with a YMF740 on board. > With all this talk about PCI audio, is there a driver for it? I > tried to write a cheap hack which enabled the SB emulation and then > let pcm probe it; it did allow pcm to probe it but DMA transfers > didn't really work. It's entirely possible that they never would, > since I don't know how many of the compatibility pins are attached > on this motherboard. > > I attach my hack in case anyone can improve upon it. I found the > YMF740 datasheet at some non-obvious place at yamaha's web site > (I started at yamaha.com but then the datasheet was at some other > yamahafoo.com domain) but I can forward it to anyone who wants it. > > Thanks, > Bill > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Sep 14 9: 5:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from iservern.teligent.se (www.teligent.se [194.17.198.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB86150AB for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 09:05:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jakob@teligent.se) Received: from fwse.teligent.se (gateway.teligent.se [192.168.3.254] (may be forged)) by iservern.teligent.se (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA01472; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 18:04:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from jakob@teligent.se) Date: Tue, 14 Sep 1999 18:05:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Jakob Alvermark Reply-To: alvermark@teligent.se To: Bill Fenner Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anyone have a YMF740 driver? In-Reply-To: <199909141540.IAA26665@teligent.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Could this work for YMF724 as well? /Jakob On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, Bill Fenner wrote: >=20 > Howdy, >=20 > My wife has an Intel SE440BX-2 motherboard with a YMF740 on board. > With all this talk about PCI audio, is there a driver for it? I > tried to write a cheap hack which enabled the SB emulation and then > let pcm probe it; it did allow pcm to probe it but DMA transfers > didn't really work. It's entirely possible that they never would, > since I don't know how many of the compatibility pins are attached > on this motherboard. >=20 > I attach my hack in case anyone can improve upon it. I found the > YMF740 datasheet at some non-obvious place at yamaha's web site > (I started at yamaha.com but then the datasheet was at some other > yamahafoo.com domain) but I can forward it to anyone who wants it. >=20 > Thanks, > Bill >=20 >=20 ------------------------------------------------------- Teligent AB, P.O. Box 213, S-149 23 Nyn=E4shamn, Sweden =20 Telephone +46-(0)8 520 660 00 * Fax +46-(0)8 520 193 36=20 Direct +46-(0)8 520 660 32 * GSM +46-(0)70 792 16 57 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Sep 14 21:11:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from leonis.nus.edu.sg (leonis.nus.edu.sg [137.132.1.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C138E154AA for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:11:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@singaporegateway.com) Received: from singaporegateway.com (dial62-90.dialup.nus.edu.sg [137.132.62.90]) by leonis.nus.edu.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06050 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:11:18 +0800 (SST) Received: (from root@localhost) by singaporegateway.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA00498 for freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:10:51 GMT (envelope-from root) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:10:51 GMT From: Optasia Message-Id: <199909151210.MAA00498@singaporegateway.com> To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: News Release: Commissioning of License Plate Recognition System Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Immediate Release 14 Sept 199 First Season Car Park License Plate Recognition System in Singapore Optasia System Pte Ltd announces the successful commissioning and acceptance of the first license plate recognition system used for validating season parking in Singapore. The system is installed in the basement car park of the Sim Lim Square complex, Singapore's premier Computers and Electronics appliance centre./nc During customer test, the system performed with incredible accuracy of 99.2% , considered extremely high by industry standards. For more details, please visit http://www.singaporegateway.com/optasia/simlim . ============================================================================== Contact: Richard Goh, CEO Optasia Systems Pte Ltd Email: optasia@singaporegateway.com Phone: +65-7874787 Fax: +65-7760157 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Sep 14 21:18:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from leonis.nus.edu.sg (leonis.nus.edu.sg [137.132.1.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8F1E15357 for ; Tue, 14 Sep 1999 21:18:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@singaporegateway.com) Received: from singaporegateway.com (dial62-90.dialup.nus.edu.sg [137.132.62.90]) by leonis.nus.edu.sg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA09703 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:17:58 +0800 (SST) Received: (from root@localhost) by singaporegateway.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id MAA00774 for freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:17:37 GMT (envelope-from root) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:17:37 GMT From: Optasia Message-Id: <199909151217.MAA00774@singaporegateway.com> To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: News Release: Commissioning of License Plate Recognition System Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Immediate Release 14 Sept 199 First Season Car Park License Plate Recognition System in Singapore Optasia System Pte Ltd announces the successful commissioning and acceptance of the first license plate recognition system used for validating season parking in Singapore. The system is installed in the basement car park of the Sim Lim Square complex, Singapore's premier Computers and Electronics appliance centre./nc During customer test, the system performed with incredible accuracy of 99.2% , considered extremely high by industry standards. For more details, please visit http://www.singaporegateway.com/optasia/simlim . ============================================================================== Contact: Richard Goh, CEO Optasia Systems Pte Ltd Email: optasia@singaporegateway.com Phone: +65-7874787 Fax: +65-7760157 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 15 0: 9:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from lips.lcse.umn.edu (lips.lcse.umn.edu [128.101.182.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8364314D72; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 00:09:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cattelan@thebarn.com) Received: from thebarn.com (lupo [128.101.182.203]) by lips.lcse.umn.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id CAA13413; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 02:09:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37DF461C.2F701BF1@thebarn.com> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 02:09:16 -0500 From: Russell Cattelan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Thomas Stromberg Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG, ghlemer@FreeBSD.ORG, peter@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: newpcm broke the Esoniq 1371 Driver Hack? References: <37D91BF2.2A871AEF@rtci.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a *VERY*preliminary version of the 1371 driver working with the newpcm code. Testing includes playing one mp3 track and adjusting the volume a few times. In other words I'm not making any promises. If anybody really needs to play with it. ftp://ftp.thebarn.com/outgoing/es1371-newpcm.src4.patch Thomas Stromberg wrote: > I've been using the Esoniq 1371 Driver from > http://www.freebsd.org/~ghelmer/es1371/ (written by Russell Cattelan?) > on my 4.0-CURRENT box for a few weeks now. It's just a hack replacement > for es1370.c/es1370_reg.h, but it worked fine up until a week ago or so > when I presume the newpcm code went into place. It works against my > 27AUG99 kernel however. > -- Russell Cattelan cattelan@thebarn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 15 0:39:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5821314C8C for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 00:39:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from cs.strath.ac.uk (scary.dmem.strath.ac.uk [130.159.202.5]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15255 Wed, 15 Sep 1999 08:39:11 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37DF3DF9.A4240847@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 07:34:33 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: Strathclyde University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lars Fredriksend_window_rect , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel 263 Codec format anyone? References: <37DD6AAD.4EDFFF45@odin-corporation.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Lars Fredriksend_window_rect wrote: > > Hi, > Does anyone have a pointer to docs for the Intel 263 codec format - > or is this yet another one of the proprietary formats that Intel have > come up with? I think you mean H.263 (and maybe an Intel implementation of it). H.263 is an international standard, from the ITU. It is used in almost all video conferencing hardware and software. Roger To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 15 9: 7:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from solaris.matti.ee (solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64461154D6 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 08:50:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vallo@matti.ee) Received: from myhakas.matti.ee (myhakas.matti.ee [194.126.114.87]) by solaris.matti.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA28211 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:50:01 +0300 (EET DST) Received: by myhakas.matti.ee (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D8949D0; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:50:00 +0300 (EEST) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:50:00 +0300 From: Vallo Kallaste To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?K-J=F6fol_skin_support_for_xmms?= Message-ID: <19990915185000.A52859@myhakas.matti.ee> Reply-To: vallo@matti.ee Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?AS_Matti_B=FCrootehnika?= Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Surfing in the web is wonderful and I discovered the K-Jöfol skin support for xmms. After some minor modification got it compiling and working. Don't know about visualization lib, thought. I've made tarball in the case somebody is interested. It's more remote control than natural skin support but I don't care :-) That's almost all I can do with my limited knowledge, please somebody turn it into port or smthg. Thanks. -- Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 15 9: 8:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat203.199.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.203.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEB89154D0 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 08:47:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA26304; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:47:43 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 12:47:42 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Optasia Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: News Release: Commissioning of License Plate Recognition System In-Reply-To: <199909151210.MAA00498@singaporegateway.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Okay...have read this three times now...and this pertains to FreeBSD in what way? *raised eyebrow* On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Optasia wrote: > Immediate Release > 14 Sept 199 > > First Season Car Park License Plate Recognition System in Singapore > > > Optasia System Pte Ltd announces the successful commissioning and > acceptance of the first license plate recognition system used for > validating season parking in Singapore. > > The system is installed in the basement car park of the Sim Lim Square > complex, Singapore's premier Computers and Electronics appliance centre./nc > > During customer test, the system performed with incredible accuracy > of 99.2% , considered extremely high by industry standards. > > For more details, please visit http://www.singaporegateway.com/optasia/simlim . > > ============================================================================== > Contact: Richard Goh, CEO > Optasia Systems Pte Ltd > Email: optasia@singaporegateway.com > Phone: +65-7874787 > Fax: +65-7760157 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message > Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 15 15:47:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3497F14C86 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 15:47:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA60231 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:43:02 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA38727 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:46:28 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 23:46:28 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Recommended digital cameras Message-ID: <19990915234628.A38299@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How do, I thought I might get a digital camera in the run up to FreeBSD Con, so I can take a few snaps and maybe do some web site updates in the evening (assuming, of course, that I can still drive a Unix box after the copious amounts of alcohol I intend on imbibing in the company of various other FreeBSD contributors). Has anyone got any recommendations for ones that work particularly well with FreeBSD? I see a number of tools in the ports tree, but no recommendations for one camera over another. If it makes a difference, I'll be plugging it into a Sony Vaio F270. Cheers, N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 15 16: 6: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.ab.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com [24.64.2.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B787E14C23; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 16:06:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vipw@home.com) Received: from fatman ([24.66.198.169]) by mail.rdc1.ab.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with SMTP id <19990915230601.XXJL7737.mail.rdc1.ab.home.com@fatman>; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 16:06:01 -0700 From: "Adam" To: "Nik Clayton" Cc: Subject: RE: Recommended digital cameras Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 17:09:46 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <19990915234628.A38299@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The Kodak DC-240 is an awesome camera, and has FreeBSD support! the oPhoto software package thingie is pretty decent and rocks. I own a DC-240 myself and have been very pleased. Check out: http://dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de/~olli/ophoto/ -- Adam -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Nik Clayton Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 4:46 PM To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Recommended digital cameras How do, I thought I might get a digital camera in the run up to FreeBSD Con, so I can take a few snaps and maybe do some web site updates in the evening (assuming, of course, that I can still drive a Unix box after the copious amounts of alcohol I intend on imbibing in the company of various other FreeBSD contributors). Has anyone got any recommendations for ones that work particularly well with FreeBSD? I see a number of tools in the ports tree, but no recommendations for one camera over another. If it makes a difference, I'll be plugging it into a Sony Vaio F270. Cheers, N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 15 17:53:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from devils.maquina.com (devils.maquina.com [62.229.71.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0423014DFD; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 17:53:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gabriel@maquina.com) Received: from localhost (gabriel@localhost) by devils.maquina.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA05695; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 01:52:50 +0100 (WEST) (envelope-from gabriel@maquina.com) X-Authentication-Warning: devils.maquina.com: gabriel owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 01:52:49 +0100 (WEST) From: Jose Gabriel Marcelino To: Adam Cc: Nik Clayton , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Recommended digital cameras In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, > The Kodak DC-240 is an awesome camera, and has FreeBSD support! the oPhoto > software package thingie is pretty decent and rocks. I own a DC-240 myself > and have been very pleased. Check out: > http://dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de/~olli/ophoto/ I think the DC-240 is awesome too, but unfortunately I think it is too expensive for a camera. It costs more than US$ 685 here in Portugal, more than a good dishwasher machine, which I need more than the camera :-)) I'm more interested in Mustek MDC-800 which also has USB/Serial, but a has lower quality and less memory than the Kodak one. This costs about US$278 here. Unfortunately it's not yet supported, as the gphoto developer working on it only got the programming docs this week. Anybody has one of those and cares to comment on their quality? I'll probably end up buying that one and work on the driver too. Regards, Gabriel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 15 18: 0:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.ab.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ab.wave.home.com [24.64.2.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A5B1510F for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:00:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vipw@home.com) Received: from fatman ([24.66.198.169]) by mail.rdc1.ab.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.07 201-229-111-110) with SMTP id <19990916010031.CQT7737.mail.rdc1.ab.home.com@fatman> for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:00:31 -0700 From: "Adam" To: Subject: RE: Recommended digital cameras Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:04:17 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yeh, $685 US for the DC-240 is a little steep :) Unfortunatlly I dunno anything about the Mustek camera's. Good luck :) -- Adam -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Jose Gabriel Marcelino Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 1999 6:53 PM To: Adam Cc: Nik Clayton; multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Recommended digital cameras Hi, > The Kodak DC-240 is an awesome camera, and has FreeBSD support! the oPhoto > software package thingie is pretty decent and rocks. I own a DC-240 myself > and have been very pleased. Check out: > http://dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de/~olli/ophoto/ I think the DC-240 is awesome too, but unfortunately I think it is too expensive for a camera. It costs more than US$ 685 here in Portugal, more than a good dishwasher machine, which I need more than the camera :-)) I'm more interested in Mustek MDC-800 which also has USB/Serial, but a has lower quality and less memory than the Kodak one. This costs about US$278 here. Unfortunately it's not yet supported, as the gphoto developer working on it only got the programming docs this week. Anybody has one of those and cares to comment on their quality? I'll probably end up buying that one and work on the driver too. Regards, Gabriel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 15 18:12:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mailer3.mail.vanderbilt.edu (mailer3.mail.Vanderbilt.Edu [129.59.1.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 649C414C47 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 18:12:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adam.c.monaghan@vanderbilt.edu) Received: from vanderbilt.edu (root@[129.59.18.201]) by mailer3.mail.vanderbilt.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1/VU-3.0.2) with ESMTP id UAA10221 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 20:12:36 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <37E04346.DF2828E7@vanderbilt.edu> Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 20:09:27 -0500 From: Adam Monaghan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@freeBSD.org Subject: aureal vortex and/or sound blaster 16 pci sound card Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i have both an aureal vortex PCI sound card and a sound blaster 16 pci sound card, im running freeBSD 4.0-current i have seen both an aureal.c and an es1370.c and respective .h files in the src tree, as well as scoured all over the place for info about it. IS there any chance i can get either one of these to work with the base sound drivers that come with freeBSD as OSS likes to crash my system about every 20 minutes if not more often. any help greatly appreciated thanks adam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Sep 15 19: 7:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E171114C46 for ; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:07:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt8-216-180-15-51.dialup.HiWAAY.net [216.180.15.51]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id VAA31222; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:07:18 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA20128; Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:07:17 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Message-Id: <199909160207.VAA20128@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Adam" Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: Recommended digital cameras In-reply-to: Message from "Adam" of "Wed, 15 Sep 1999 19:04:17 MDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 15 Sep 1999 21:07:16 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Adam" writes: > Yeh, $685 US for the DC-240 is a little steep :) That is steep as the US chain stores offer it for $599, the larger reputable mail order stores for $550 (http://www.cameraworld.com/adtemplate.asp?invky=89928) and widely on http://www.pricewatch.com/ for under $500. However, all of the above are still more than a good dishwasher machine costs. Even in the US. :-) -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 0: 7:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mooseriver.com (superior.mooseriver.com [209.249.56.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F381214BDA for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 00:07:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch@mooseriver.com) Received: (from jgrosch@localhost) by mooseriver.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id AAA99796; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 00:07:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgrosch) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 00:07:21 -0700 From: Josef Grosch To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: Optasia , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: News Release: Commissioning of License Plate Recognition System Message-ID: <19990916000721.A99753@mooseriver.com> Reply-To: jgrosch@mooseriver.com References: <199909151210.MAA00498@singaporegateway.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from The Hermit Hacker on Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 12:47:42PM -0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Sep 15, 1999 at 12:47:42PM -0300, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > Okay...have read this three times now...and this pertains to FreeBSD in > what way? *raised eyebrow* > > On Wed, 15 Sep 1999, Optasia wrote: > > > Immediate Release > > 14 Sept 199 > > > > First Season Car Park License Plate Recognition System in Singapore > > > > > > Optasia System Pte Ltd announces the successful commissioning and > > acceptance of the first license plate recognition system used for > > validating season parking in Singapore. > > > > The system is installed in the basement car park of the Sim Lim Square > > complex, Singapore's premier Computers and Electronics appliance centre./nc > > > > During customer test, the system performed with incredible accuracy > > of 99.2% , considered extremely high by industry standards. > > > > For more details, please visit http://www.singaporegateway.com/optasia/simlim . > > They want FreeBSD people to know that driving a car and chewing gum at the same time is a crime punishable by keel hauling. Josef -- Josef Grosch | Another day closer to a | FreeBSD 3.3 jgrosch@MooseRiver.com | Micro$oft free world | UNIX for the masses To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 8: 3:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mamba-e.gsfc.nasa.gov (mamba-e.gsfc.nasa.gov [128.183.166.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7780014F6D for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 08:03:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uhl@mamba-e.gsfc.nasa.gov) Received: (from uhl@localhost) by mamba-e.gsfc.nasa.gov (8.8.5/8.8.4) id LAA12322 for multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:03:20 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:03:20 -0400 (EDT) From: George Uhl Message-Id: <199909161503.LAA12322@mamba-e.gsfc.nasa.gov> To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: YMF724F driver support Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-MD5: hk2iMDd0iR5BDfq8zFm8Ig== Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I tried the trial-version of the OSS driver for the YMF724F (Yamaha DS-XG) but it is unusable for vat and real audio choked on it too. The tech support people at opensound weren't helpful. For those intereseted in this card and want the datasheet, the Yamaha website is: www.yamahayst.com/pcaudio/ymf724f.htm Is anyone working on a driver for this card? Thanks, George Uhl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 8:30: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat203.199.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.203.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 398E515781 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 08:29:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA36369; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:29:49 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:29:48 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Josef Grosch Cc: Optasia , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: News Release: Commissioning of License Plate Recognition System In-Reply-To: <19990916000721.A99753@mooseriver.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Josef Grosch wrote: > > > For more details, please visit http://www.singaporegateway.com/optasia/simlim . > > > > > They want FreeBSD people to know that driving a car and chewing gum at the > same time is a crime punishable by keel hauling. Damn, take singapore off my list of places to go fo holidays :( The gf drives and chews gum all the time, and hates keel hauling *sigh* Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 9:55:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail-blue.research.att.com (mail-blue.research.att.com [135.207.30.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0B851542A for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:55:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fenner@research.att.com) Received: from alliance.research.att.com (alliance.research.att.com [135.207.26.26]) by mail-blue.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECB354CE27; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:55:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from windsor.research.att.com (windsor.research.att.com [135.207.26.46]) by alliance.research.att.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA10739; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:55:43 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fenner Received: (from fenner@localhost) by windsor.research.att.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.5) id JAA15391; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:55:42 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199909161655.JAA15391@windsor.research.att.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: alvermark@teligent.se Subject: Re: Anyone have a YMF740 driver? Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 09:55:42 -0700 Versions: dmail (solaris) 2.2e/makemail 2.8u Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jakob, It looks like the legacy audio control registers are similar on the YMF724; therefore you could probably get somewhere by adding the 724's PCI ID (0x000d1073) to the ymf_probe(). However, I haven't yet gotten the 740 to actually work in soundblaster-comatible mode, so don't get your hopes up too high =) Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 10:32:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from tusk.mountain-inter.net (tusk.mountain-inter.net [204.244.200.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EBC1814F6F for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:32:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sreid@sea-to-sky.net) Received: from grok.localnet (dialup50.mountain-inter.net [204.244.200.59]) by tusk.mountain-inter.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id KAA24304 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:32:24 -0700 Received: by grok.localnet (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F1A6C212E07; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:32:43 -0700 From: Steve To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Atapi CD audio ripper quality? Message-ID: <19990916103243.A417@grok.localnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've installed dagrab from the ports tree and am trying to figure out whether or not I'm getting perfect rips from my audio CDs. Presumably, because it's a digital medium, there is only one "correct" version. Right? First I tried dagrab'ing a track multiple times with the default settings then comparing MD5 digests. I ripped the track seven or eight times and they were all identical except one. So far so good, I thought. Then I tried with "-n 16" and four out of five were identical. The thing is, they were different from what I got using the default settings. I tried with "-n 16 -o 6" and "-n 32", and with each setting got mostly identical files, but different from all of the previous settings. So how do I tell which setting (if any) is giving me the correct output? The files all sound okay at first listen but I haven't done careful comparisons to find out if there are audible differences. I figure it would be too tedious to do so for every track I rip. There must be some way to automatically figure out if the rip is good or not. I was running with -v, and in all cases it said 0 retries for jitter correction. If there are any errors I guess they're going undetected. Maybe I just don't know what I'm doing? How do I find out if I'm getting a correct rip? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 11: 8:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat203.199.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.203.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98828156EA for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:08:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA37500 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:08:39 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:08:39 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Radio Station ... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi... At the local University that I work at, they are planning on setting up a "Internet Radio Station"...I've talked them into using FreeBSD, and now that I've put my foot in it...what software is available for doing this? Any? :?) Thanks... Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 11:42: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D5E514D61 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:42:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03715; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:41:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199909161841.LAA03715@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Radio Station ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:08:39 -0300." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:41:01 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I believe that the Real Networks server is available for FreeBSD and for ip multicast there is of course vat and vic. -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 11:44:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from msxsmtp1.novellus.com (msxsmtp1.Novellus.Com [198.211.186.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00AB815823 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:44:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Thomas.Hentschel@NOVELLUS.com) Received: by msxsmtp1.novellus.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:43:05 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Hentschel, Thomas" To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, 'The Hermit Hacker' Subject: RE: Radio Station ... Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:46:08 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There is a shoutcast compatible streamer (icecast) in the ports (/usr/ports/audio/icecast) -Th ---------- From: The Hermit Hacker [SMTP:scrappy@hub.org] Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 11:09 AM To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Radio Station ... Hi... At the local University that I work at, they are planning on setting up a "Internet Radio Station"...I've talked them into using FreeBSD, and now that I've put my foot in it...what software is available for doing this? Any? :?) Thanks... Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 12:23:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.umr.edu (mrelay.cc.umr.edu [131.151.1.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8372150B9 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 12:23:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bbryan@umr.edu) Received: from ego (dialup-pkr-5-4.network.umr.edu [131.151.64.73]) via SMTP by mrelay.cc.umr.edu (8.9.3/R.4.20) id OAA24794; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:23:38 -0500 Message-Id: <199909161923.OAA24794@mrelay.cc.umr.edu> From: "Ben Bryan" To: "freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG" , "The Hermit Hacker" Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:25:11 -0500 Reply-To: "Ben Bryan" X-Mailer: PMMail 98 Standard (2.01.1600) For Windows NT (4.0.1381;3) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Radio Station ... Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > At the local University that I work at, they are planning on >setting up a "Internet Radio Station"...I've talked them into using >FreeBSD, and now that I've put my foot in it...what software is available >for doing this? Any? :?) Is this gonna be a "live" thing or just using prerecorded stuff already in a digital format? And are they willing to spend money on software? I work at the student run station on campus here (take care of our dozen or so computers among other things). We take our live on-air feed and run it through Real's encoder (we're using version 3 still) and then send it over to the campus RA server for distribution. We'd run our own server, but we only have a T1 to the campus network. It looks like Real is giving away a 25 stream version of G2 server so if they're not expecting a whole lot of listeners that could do. We're not planning on doing anything with mp3 streamers because they're such cpu and bandwidth hogs. But if they have no budget and want more than 25 streams (and have the bandwidth) that's the only option I know of. Ben (Incidentally, pgsql is the backend we're using for our new library database project. Gotta keep track of these 40-odd thousand cds/lps somehow...) -- Walk tall, carry a big stick, and use it. sysadmn & "loud rock" guy - KMNR bbryan@umr.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 13: 2:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D43421543E for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:02:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA94693; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:01:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Radio Station ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:08:39 -0300." Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 13:01:34 -0700 Message-ID: <94689.937512094@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > At the local University that I work at, they are planning on > setting up a "Internet Radio Station"...I've talked them into using > FreeBSD, and now that I've put my foot in it...what software is available > for doing this? Any? :?) Look into icecast, in the ports collection. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 14: 0:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from iservern.teligent.se (www.teligent.se [194.17.198.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F5415421 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:00:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alvermark@teligent.se) Received: from ruke (gateway.teligent.se [192.168.3.254] (may be forged)) by iservern.teligent.se (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id WAA15265; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:57:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from alvermark@teligent.se) Message-ID: <001101bf0086$93799660$0424a8c0@dyn.ml.org> From: "Jakob Alvermark" To: "Bill Fenner" Cc: References: <199909161655.JAA15391@windsor.research.att.com> Subject: Re: Anyone have a YMF740 driver? Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 23:00:57 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If I remember correctly, someone was trying to do what you are doing some months ago, and he didn't get it to work. I also think Luigi said that I shouldn't be much of a problem doing that, but the legacy mode is not very good(what is it? 8-bit mono or something). What we want is to drive the card in "native" mode, and get full quality, but it seems hard (if not impossible) to get Yamaha to release specs. About OSS, I don't think it's very good, I tried it with different cards, and always crash my machines. Anyone had any luck with OSS/FreeBSD? Sometimes it works for an hour or so, but I always end up with the machine crashing.. /Jakob > > Jakob, > > It looks like the legacy audio control registers are similar on the YMF724; > therefore you could probably get somewhere by adding the 724's PCI ID > (0x000d1073) to the ymf_probe(). However, I haven't yet gotten the 740 > to actually work in soundblaster-comatible mode, so don't get your hopes > up too high =) > > Bill > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 14:28:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail-green.research.att.com (H-135-207-30-103.research.att.com [135.207.30.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1042D1578B for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:28:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fenner@research.att.com) Received: from alliance.research.att.com (alliance.research.att.com [135.207.26.26]) by mail-green.research.att.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8CC81E056; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 17:28:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from windsor.research.att.com (windsor.research.att.com [135.207.26.46]) by alliance.research.att.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id RAA22937; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 17:28:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Bill Fenner Received: (from fenner@localhost) by windsor.research.att.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.5) id OAA18134; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:28:06 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199909162128.OAA18134@windsor.research.att.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII To: alvermark@teligent.se Subject: Re: Anyone have a YMF740 driver? Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org References: <199909161655.JAA15391@windsor.research.att.com> <001101bf0086$93799660$0424a8c0@dyn.ml.org> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:28:06 -0700 Versions: dmail (solaris) 2.2e/makemail 2.8u Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >If I remember correctly, someone was trying to do what you are doing some >months ago, and he didn't get it to work. I also think Luigi said that I >shouldn't be much of a problem doing that, but the legacy mode is not very >good(what is it? 8-bit mono or something). Well, it emulates some kind of soundblaster; I assume at least 16-bit stereo but I guess I have no real idea. >What we want is to drive the card >in "native" mode, and get full quality, but it seems hard (if not >impossible) to get Yamaha to release specs. The PCI register layout for the YMF740 and others are available from Yamaha's web site. I don't think that all of the details are in the documents but I think there's enough there for someone who's written such a driver before to make a lot of progress. Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 14:29:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (orthanc.ab.ca [207.167.3.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ACE8157AC for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:29:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca) Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (localhost.orthanc.ab.ca [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by orthanc.ab.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA58352; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:29:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca) Message-Id: <199909162129.PAA58352@orthanc.ab.ca> To: "Hentschel, Thomas" Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, "'The Hermit Hacker'" Subject: Re: Radio Station ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Sep 1999 11:46:08 PDT." Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:29:21 -0600 From: lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> "Hentschel," == Hentschel, Thomas writes: Hentschel,> There is a shoutcast compatible streamer (icecast) in Hentschel,> the ports (/usr/ports/audio/icecast) Or you could be bandwidth friendly and use multicast. /usr/ports/mbone/{sdr,vat} are about all you need. --lyndon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 14:50:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat203.199.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.203.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39A47151B9 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:50:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA39220; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:50:33 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:50:33 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca Cc: "Hentschel, Thomas" , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Radio Station ... In-Reply-To: <199909162129.PAA58352@orthanc.ab.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Okay, let's narrow down the search a little bit... These are Winblows users...I'm looking at icecase/vat and sdr right now, since I've not used them before, but are these "brain-dead" things that I'd want to put 'point-n-click' users onto? :( On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca wrote: > >>>>> "Hentschel," == Hentschel, Thomas writes: > > Hentschel,> There is a shoutcast compatible streamer (icecast) in > Hentschel,> the ports (/usr/ports/audio/icecast) > > Or you could be bandwidth friendly and use multicast. > > /usr/ports/mbone/{sdr,vat} are about all you need. > > --lyndon > Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 14:59:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from msxsmtp1.novellus.com (msxsmtp1.Novellus.Com [198.211.186.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A712515628 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:59:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Thomas.Hentschel@NOVELLUS.com) Received: by msxsmtp1.novellus.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 14:58:01 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Hentschel, Thomas" To: lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca, 'The Hermit Hacker' Cc: "Hentschel, Thomas" , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Radio Station ... Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:01:03 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I guess for the "brain dead" the only choice is either SHOUTcast / ICEcast or the Real server. VAT/VIC setup under Windoze can be quite a chore and I never got it to work right - the tools are fairly buggy under Windoze. It also would require that your network is multicast (normally not a problem) and on the mbone (if it's not just LAN). -Th ---------- From: The Hermit Hacker [SMTP:scrappy@hub.org] Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 2:51 PM To: lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca Cc: Hentschel, Thomas; freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Radio Station ... Okay, let's narrow down the search a little bit... These are Winblows users...I'm looking at icecase/vat and sdr right now, since I've not used them before, but are these "brain-dead" things that I'd want to put 'point-n-click' users onto? :( On Thu, 16 Sep 1999 lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca wrote: > >>>>> "Hentschel," == Hentschel, Thomas writes: > > Hentschel,> There is a shoutcast compatible streamer (icecast) in > Hentschel,> the ports (/usr/ports/audio/icecast) > > Or you could be bandwidth friendly and use multicast. > > /usr/ports/mbone/{sdr,vat} are about all you need. > > --lyndon > Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 15: 5: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat203.199.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.203.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E05EA154C5 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:04:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA42628; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:05:06 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 19:05:06 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: chip@eboai.org Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: icecast: special requirements? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Do I have to have a soundcard *in* the machine I want to 'cast from? ===> Building for icecast-1.1.4 cc -O -pipe -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -c -o get_local_stream.o get_local_stream.c get_local_stream.c: In function `check_soundcard': get_local_stream.c:77: `SNDCTL_DSP_SETDUPLEX' undeclared (first use in this func tion) get_local_stream.c:77: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once get_local_stream.c:77: for each function it appears in.) get_local_stream.c: In function `open_soundcard': get_local_stream.c:124: `SNDCTL_DSP_SETDUPLEX' undeclared (first use in this function) %uname -a FreeBSD thelab.hub.org 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Sep 7 18:37:36 ADT 1999 Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 15: 7:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95EDB15594 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:06:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05268; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:05:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199909162205.PAA05268@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca, "Hentschel, Thomas" , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Radio Station ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:50:33 -0300." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:05:29 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes they are braind dead apps which you can use the biggest issue with ip multicast is if the win boxes can receive ip multicast and thats a function of their funky device driver/card and if your network is ip multicast enable. for free win loose ip multicast apps check out: http://www-mice.cs.ucl.ac.uk/multimedia/software Also check out this review: http://www.wnet.ca/multicast/icastrev.htm -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 15:15:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (orthanc.ab.ca [207.167.3.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07931576D for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:15:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca) Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (localhost.orthanc.ab.ca [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by orthanc.ab.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA58496; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:15:35 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca) Message-Id: <199909162215.QAA58496@orthanc.ab.ca> To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: "Hentschel, Thomas" , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Radio Station ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:50:33 -0300." Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:15:34 -0600 From: lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> "The" == The Hermit Hacker writes: The> These are Winblows users...I'm looking at icecase/vat and sdr The> right now, since I've not used them before, but are these The> "brain-dead" things that I'd want to put 'point-n-click' The> users onto? :( There are Windows ports of sdr and vat available from UCL. They look just like their UNIX/X11 counterparts. I also forgot to mention vic as an alternative to vat. I find vic does a better job of dealing with lossy incoming feeds, and I like the UI a bit more than vat's. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 15:17:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E04D15628 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:17:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA93183; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:16:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <199909162216.SAA93183@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Amancio Hasty Cc: The Hermit Hacker , lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca, "Hentschel, Thomas" , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: Radio Station ... References: <199909162205.PAA05268@rah.star-gate.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:05:29 PDT." <199909162205.PAA05268@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:16:54 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Respectfully, this is just the sort of thing which will get FreeBSD a bad reputation. The vast majority of end-users that do streaming media application use either Real or Windows Media player. The folks running the radio station are likely not interesting in doing technology evaluation or testing of interesting new clients; they probably only want the j-random user out there with his windows box to listen to their radio station. They don't give a whiz about multicast or unicast; they just want to click on the link and have noise come out of the speaker. Ideally, they'd like to use the stuff already on their PC, and that's Real or Media Player. Commercially, content providers don't care about multicast either, other than as an optimization to help reach some of their audience more cost effectively. They are more interested in getting eyeballs and ear, regardless of the delivery mechanism. It's just exactly this point which is the reason you don't see widespread commercial deployment of "mbone" applications. louie > Yes they are braind dead apps which you can use the biggest > issue with ip multicast is if the win boxes can receive ip multicast > and thats a function of their funky device driver/card and if > your network is ip multicast enable. > > for free win loose ip multicast apps check out: > > http://www-mice.cs.ucl.ac.uk/multimedia/software > > > Also check out this review: > > http://www.wnet.ca/multicast/icastrev.htm > > > > -- > > Amancio Hasty > hasty@rah.star-gate.com > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 15:25:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from msxsmtp1.novellus.com (msxsmtp1.Novellus.Com [198.211.186.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65307152D7 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:25:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Thomas.Hentschel@NOVELLUS.com) Received: by msxsmtp1.novellus.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:23:34 -0700 Message-ID: From: "Hentschel, Thomas" To: Amancio Hasty , "'Louis A. Mamakos'" Cc: The Hermit Hacker , lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca, "Hentschel, Thomas" , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Radio Station ... Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:26:37 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On another note, I seem to remember that the RealPlayer G2 was actually able to play a MBone audio stream. But then, I might be mistaken. (Can someone confirm this ?). Speakfreely can do too, and that's quit a bit more stable than the VAT tools from VNC -Th ---------- From: Louis A. Mamakos [SMTP:louie@TransSys.COM] Sent: Thursday, September 16, 1999 3:17 PM To: Amancio Hasty Cc: The Hermit Hacker; lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca; Hentschel, Thomas; freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Radio Station ... [snip] The vast majority of end-users that do streaming media application use either Real or Windows Media player. The folks running the radio station are likely not interesting in doing technology evaluation or testing of interesting new clients; they probably only want the j-random user out there with his windows box to listen to their radio station. [big snip] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 15:28:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (orthanc.ab.ca [207.167.3.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02CE715776 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:27:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca) Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (localhost.orthanc.ab.ca [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by orthanc.ab.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA58562; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:27:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca) Message-Id: <199909162227.QAA58562@orthanc.ab.ca> To: "Louis A. Mamakos" Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Dinosaur ? Unicast : Multicast ;-) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:16:54 EDT." <199909162216.SAA93183@whizzo.transsys.com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:27:38 -0600 From: lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> "Louis" == Louis A Mamakos writes: Louis> They don't give a whiz about multicast or unicast; they Louis> just want to click on the link and have noise come out of Louis> the speaker. Ideally, they'd like to use the stuff already Louis> on their PC, and that's Real or Media Player. Media Player hints that it can receive and play multicast streams. I haven't tried it, but if it works it shouldn't be hard to cook up a URL that launches it with the appropriate settings to receive the feed. Louis> Commercially, content providers don't care about multicast Louis> either, other than as an optimization to help reach some of Louis> their audience more cost effectively. They are more Louis> interested in getting eyeballs and ear, regardless of the Louis> delivery mechanism. It's just exactly this point which is Louis> the reason you don't see widespread commercial deployment Louis> of "mbone" applications. That's *not* what the vendors presenting papers at the latest ACM SIGCOMM[1] were saying. They've finally realized that there's no hope at all of providing commercial services based on unicast technology; there simply is not enough bandwidth out there. I fully expect to see the big content providers to start offering multicast based services by early next year. --lyndon [1] Which was shipped around the world via multicast, not Realvideo :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 15:35:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 752CE157A3 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:35:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05544; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:33:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199909162233.PAA05544@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Louis A. Mamakos" Cc: The Hermit Hacker , lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca, "Hentschel, Thomas" , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Radio Station ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:16:54 EDT." <199909162216.SAA93183@whizzo.transsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:33:57 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Actually, the real reason why there is no more wide spread of the mbone is perhaps more due to stupidity on the part of ISPs and yes I dealt with ISPs . The backbone providers are really happy to slow down adaptation of ip multicast because it cuts into their bottom line or they don't know how to price ip multicast or people are reluctant to pay for reception of ip multicast sessions, the list goes and on ... Where IP multicast has shown that is a big win is in an Intranet scenario for perhaps a geographically dispersed company which are forced to pay about $10K / hour for real time audio/video satellite feed. At any rate, Microsoft is preaching the virtues of ip multicast for the Intranet . There are sound technical and economical reasons for doing ip multicasts . For intance the Berkely Seminars for years were being broadcasted using ip multicast then they decided to switch to real audio /video stuff --- well guess what they found out that from their site they could only support 40 or 50 real audio/video sessions . Besides , real networks servers and clients do support ip multicast. So even though a user may not care what underlying delivery technology is being used they do care about ease of use and accessibility to the multimedia content. > > Respectfully, this is just the sort of thing which will get FreeBSD a > bad reputation. > > The vast majority of end-users that do streaming media application use > either Real or Windows Media player. The folks running the radio station > are likely not interesting in doing technology evaluation or testing of > interesting new clients; they probably only want the j-random user out > there with his windows box to listen to their radio station. > > They don't give a whiz about multicast or unicast; they just want to > click on the link and have noise come out of the speaker. Ideally, they'd > like to use the stuff already on their PC, and that's Real or Media Player. > > Commercially, content providers don't care about multicast either, other > than as an optimization to help reach some of their audience more > cost effectively. They are more interested in getting eyeballs and ear, > regardless of the delivery mechanism. It's just exactly this point > which is the reason you don't see widespread commercial deployment of > "mbone" applications. > > louie > > > Yes they are braind dead apps which you can use the biggest > > issue with ip multicast is if the win boxes can receive ip multicast > > and thats a function of their funky device driver/card and if > > your network is ip multicast enable. > > > > for free win loose ip multicast apps check out: > > > > http://www-mice.cs.ucl.ac.uk/multimedia/software > > > > > > Also check out this review: > > > > http://www.wnet.ca/multicast/icastrev.htm > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Amancio Hasty > > hasty@rah.star-gate.com > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message > > -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 15:36:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B8AD1576D for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:36:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05565; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:35:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199909162235.PAA05565@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca Cc: The Hermit Hacker , "Hentschel, Thomas" , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Radio Station ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:15:34 MDT." <199909162215.QAA58496@orthanc.ab.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:35:07 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >>>>> "The" == The Hermit Hacker writes: > > The> These are Winblows users...I'm looking at icecase/vat and sdr > The> right now, since I've not used them before, but are these > The> "brain-dead" things that I'd want to put 'point-n-click' > The> users onto? :( > > There are Windows ports of sdr and vat available from UCL. They > look just like their UNIX/X11 counterparts. I also forgot to > mention vic as an alternative to vat. I find vic does a better > job of dealing with lossy incoming feeds, and I like the UI a > bit more than vat's. vic is for video vat is for audio rat has provisions for lossy audio -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 15:39:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D214514C93 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:39:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA05609; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:38:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199909162238.PAA05609@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca Cc: "Louis A. Mamakos" , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dinosaur ? Unicast : Multicast ;-) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:27:38 MDT." <199909162227.QAA58562@orthanc.ab.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:38:40 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > That's *not* what the vendors presenting papers at the latest > ACM SIGCOMM[1] were saying. They've finally realized that there's no > hope at all of providing commercial services based on unicast > technology; there simply is not enough bandwidth out there. I > fully expect to see the big content providers to start offering > multicast based services by early next year. > Nah, each one of you is probably going to get a wave length . The real issue is deployment of fiber to the home. You are right until the last mile-hop issue gets resolved is going to be tough for the unicast people 8) -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 15:43:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD9314D78 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:43:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA93367; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:43:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <199909162243.SAA93367@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: Dinosaur ? Unicast : Multicast ;-) References: <199909162227.QAA58562@orthanc.ab.ca> In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:27:38 MDT." <199909162227.QAA58562@orthanc.ab.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:43:44 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >>>>> "Louis" == Louis A Mamakos writes: > > Louis> They don't give a whiz about multicast or unicast; they > Louis> just want to click on the link and have noise come out of > Louis> the speaker. Ideally, they'd like to use the stuff already > Louis> on their PC, and that's Real or Media Player. > > Media Player hints that it can receive and play multicast streams. I > haven't tried it, but if it works it shouldn't be hard to cook up > a URL that launches it with the appropriate settings to receive the > feed. Yes, and the Real Player also has the same capability. But the important thing to note is that the end user doesn't know or care, and that the application will (usually) fall back to using unicast transport to deliver the content. > Louis> Commercially, content providers don't care about multicast > Louis> either, other than as an optimization to help reach some of > Louis> their audience more cost effectively. They are more > Louis> interested in getting eyeballs and ear, regardless of the > Louis> delivery mechanism. It's just exactly this point which is > Louis> the reason you don't see widespread commercial deployment > Louis> of "mbone" applications. > > That's *not* what the vendors presenting papers at the latest > ACM SIGCOMM[1] were saying. They've finally realized that there's no > hope at all of providing commercial services based on unicast > technology; there simply is not enough bandwidth out there. I > fully expect to see the big content providers to start offering > multicast based services by early next year. I have a certain bit of experience with commercial multicast services, and the problem isn't technology- it's a business/financial problem. How do you deploy a service/capability so that you can survive it's success? Yes, we technologist can all dismiss this unclean consideration, but if you can't afford to operate it, then you better not start. > [1] Which was shipped around the world via multicast, not Realvideo :-) Compared to the streaming media content that is commerically distributed every day, for example, by broadcast.com, this is literally in the noise. louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 16:35:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (orthanc.ab.ca [207.167.3.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B492D14FBC for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 16:35:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca) Received: from orthanc.ab.ca (localhost.orthanc.ab.ca [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by orthanc.ab.ca (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA58775; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 17:35:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca) Message-Id: <199909162335.RAA58775@orthanc.ab.ca> To: Amancio Hasty Cc: "Louis A. Mamakos" , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dinosaur ? Unicast : Multicast ;-) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Sep 1999 15:38:40 PDT." <199909162238.PAA05609@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 17:35:32 -0600 From: lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> "Amancio" == Amancio Hasty writes: Amancio> You are right until the last mile-hop issue gets resolved Amancio> is going to be tough for the unicast people 8) Last mile isn't the problem. "First 10 feet" is. Why have to size for 1000 300 kb/s streams out of your server when you can get away with sending just one? --lyndon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 17:21:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7741C15207 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 17:21:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA06124; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 17:20:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199909170020.RAA06124@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Louis A. Mamakos" Cc: lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Dinosaur ? Unicast : Multicast ;-) In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:43:44 EDT." <199909162243.SAA93367@whizzo.transsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 17:20:36 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I have a certain bit of experience with commercial multicast services, > and the problem isn't technology- it's a business/financial problem. How > do you deploy a service/capability so that you can survive it's > success? Yes, we technologist can all dismiss this unclean consideration, > but if you can't afford to operate it, then you better not start. > Hmm... What I envision (I am not a marketing type) is that a large ISP could provide multimedia content along the lines of a model similar to such as a TV Channel -- that is you can charge for advertisement , charge for distributing media, and charge the viewer or client to access your network. What is needed is the ability to block unathorized viewers 8) -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 18: 0: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED38E157CE for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:00:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-27.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.27]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA11302 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:59:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id VAA10891 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:00:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:00:53 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Is video overclocking risky? Message-ID: <19990916210053.A10590@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a new Matrox G200 PCI I picked up, and I notice I pick up about a 10% XStone increase by using "overclock_mem" in XFree86 3.9.16. So in practice, is this risky? Or do you just risk video corruption? From what little I know, I think this means it clocks the RAMDAC faster, so it (along with the memory) is being pushed. At high resolutions and refresh rates when the RAMDAC is already up toward the high end of its limits, I think this means it'll be running closer to or past the spec freq limit (maybe pulling more current than it was designed to). Is this right in practice? Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 18:30:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A00215825 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:30:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial6-95.netcologne.de [194.8.196.95]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA21704; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 03:30:30 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id DAA06067; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 03:29:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 03:29:52 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199909170129.DAA06067@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Logging Audio Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is there an easy way to log the output that goes to pcm to a file? Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 18:31:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B1E14D6A for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:31:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (doconnor@cain [203.38.152.97]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21609; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:00:52 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3.1 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="_=XFMail.1.3.1.p0.FreeBSD:990917110051:6599=_"; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature" In-Reply-To: <19990916103243.A417@grok.localnet> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:00:51 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Steve Subject: RE: Atapi CD audio ripper quality? Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format --_=XFMail.1.3.1.p0.FreeBSD:990917110051:6599=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 16-Sep-99 Steve wrote: > Presumably, because it's a digital medium, there is only one "correct" > version. Right? Thats true, but gsince CD audio has no checksum information you don't KNOW if you're getting the right data. > So how do I tell which setting (if any) is giving me the correct output? > The files all sound okay at first listen but I haven't done careful > comparisons to find out if there are audible differences. I figure it > would be too tedious to do so for every track I rip. There must be some > way to automatically figure out if the rip is good or not. Listening is the only way :) If it sound good then it ripped OK :) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum --_=XFMail.1.3.1.p0.FreeBSD:990917110051:6599=_ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.3ia iQCVAwUBN+GZy1bYW/HEoF9pAQGOswP9GcBDAHMB+uRd37ND2PPllC6aS2Nd26De zzN/x+W/wF4ouOGou/nG6+G4DfihEQhNbe0eB6RxgBft/FJiXlTl8ch32tyW/Ckg P/74cTTtvqUkZrll5AnP2UM5ajvZeVI8yONBAbXBP5c0Pbu+O1Kzc/oTQOJPJYYI 6giOPvXM9NI= =pr1D -----END PGP MESSAGE----- --_=XFMail.1.3.1.p0.FreeBSD:990917110051:6599=_-- End of MIME message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 18:43:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7DE114CA9 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:43:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (doconnor@cain [203.38.152.97]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA21918; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:13:30 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3.1 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="_=XFMail.1.3.1.p0.FreeBSD:990917111330:6599=_"; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature" In-Reply-To: <199909162238.PAA05609@rah.star-gate.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:13:30 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Amancio Hasty Subject: Re: Dinosaur ? Unicast : Multicast ;-) Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, "Louis A. Mamakos" , lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format --_=XFMail.1.3.1.p0.FreeBSD:990917111330:6599=_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 16-Sep-99 Amancio Hasty wrote: > You are right until the last mile-hop issue gets resolved is > going to be tough for the unicast people 8) But multicast doesn't solve the 'last mile-hop problem'.. It doesn't affect it at all... Multicast only saves bandwidth for the service provider. (and their service provider) How do you charge for multicast though? :) (And I'm sure an ISP would just love you not paying your back channel tariffs if they gave you multicast and you ran a server) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum --_=XFMail.1.3.1.p0.FreeBSD:990917111330:6599=_ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- Version: 2.6.3ia iQCUAwUBN+GcwVbYW/HEoF9pAQGjDgP3fSpPD9BNFa6WrB7K/YsqGixxRSTsePKR ZqNxVDUeHBduHDk3KXmwOlFW6armOU5ECeOJ4VoHrzzVsQDYnjyRhHUSOU/XTO0f M2GvqqYnpLDiz0STNsmo7DC2EpoNizl5JD/zh+IXMwSDOAoHnUjAKBxed9ISSYPQ UJHCzxUqFQ== =muMF -----END PGP MESSAGE----- --_=XFMail.1.3.1.p0.FreeBSD:990917111330:6599=_-- End of MIME message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 18:50:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF97150AE for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:50:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA06679; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:49:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199909170149.SAA06679@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Daniel O'Connor" Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, "Louis A. Mamakos" , lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca Subject: Re: Dinosaur ? Unicast : Multicast ;-) In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:13:30 +0930." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 18:49:46 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry I mixed two things up . High speed video to the home will perhaps force the issue of ip multicast. > This message is in MIME format > --_=XFMail.1.3.1.p0.FreeBSD:990917111330:6599=_ > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > > On 16-Sep-99 Amancio Hasty wrote: > > You are right until the last mile-hop issue gets resolved is > > going to be tough for the unicast people 8) > > But multicast doesn't solve the 'last mile-hop problem'.. It doesn't affect it > at all... > > Multicast only saves bandwidth for the service provider. (and their service > provider) > > How do you charge for multicast though? :) > (And I'm sure an ISP would just love you not paying your back channel tariffs > if they gave you multicast and you ran a server) > > --- > Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer > for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au > "The nice thing about standards is that there > are so many of them to choose from." > -- Andrew Tanenbaum > > --_=XFMail.1.3.1.p0.FreeBSD:990917111330:6599=_ > Content-Type: application/pgp-signature > > -----BEGIN PGP MESSAGE----- > Version: 2.6.3ia > > iQCUAwUBN+GcwVbYW/HEoF9pAQGjDgP3fSpPD9BNFa6WrB7K/YsqGixxRSTsePKR > ZqNxVDUeHBduHDk3KXmwOlFW6armOU5ECeOJ4VoHrzzVsQDYnjyRhHUSOU/XTO0f > M2GvqqYnpLDiz0STNsmo7DC2EpoNizl5JD/zh+IXMwSDOAoHnUjAKBxed9ISSYPQ > UJHCzxUqFQ== > =muMF > -----END PGP MESSAGE----- > > --_=XFMail.1.3.1.p0.FreeBSD:990917111330:6599=_-- > End of MIME message -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 20: 8:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85B8F14DDB for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:08:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA07077; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:07:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199909170307.UAA07077@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Daniel O'Connor" Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, "Louis A. Mamakos" , lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca Subject: Re: Dinosaur ? Unicast : Multicast ;-) In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:13:30 +0930." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:07:36 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > How do you charge for multicast though? :) > (And I'm sure an ISP would just love you not paying your back channel tariffs > if they gave you multicast and you ran a server) > Pay for view and encrypt the data ? however is that is the case then it better be good quality and something that I want. -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 20:27:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (ns.mt.sri.com [206.127.79.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21EB14EBD for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:27:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA14376; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:27:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA11387; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:27:17 -0600 Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:27:17 -0600 Message-Id: <199909170327.VAA11387@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Louis A. Mamakos" Cc: Amancio Hasty , The Hermit Hacker , lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca, "Hentschel, Thomas" , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Radio Station ... In-Reply-To: <199909162216.SAA93183@whizzo.transsys.com> References: <199909162205.PAA05268@rah.star-gate.com> <199909162216.SAA93183@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > The vast majority of end-users that do streaming media application use > either Real or Windows Media player. Real-Audio's quality is *really* bad, and the Windows Media Player appears to be on it's way our (recent press articles imply this...) In any case, my guess is for streaming audio that Shoutcast rules (WinAmp) the numbers game. WinAmp is free, and is a quite good audio player and supports streaming audio in a number of formats, as well as a number of other audio format. Also, the WinAmp/Shoutcast folks *really* like FreeBSD, although I don't think their servers are free.... Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 20:32:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BE9015167 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:32:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA07203; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:30:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199909170330.UAA07203@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Cc: "Louis A. Mamakos" , The Hermit Hacker , lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca, "Hentschel, Thomas" , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Radio Station ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:27:17 MDT." <199909170327.VAA11387@mt.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:30:24 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > The vast majority of end-users that do streaming media application use > > either Real or Windows Media player. > > Real-Audio's quality is *really* bad, and the Windows Media Player > appears to be on it's way our (recent press articles imply this...) Hi Nate, What makes you think that windows media player is on its way out? Just curious.... Tnks! -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 20:33: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from ns.mt.sri.com (ns.mt.sri.com [206.127.79.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D957153B9 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:33:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@mt.sri.com) Received: from mt.sri.com (rocky.mt.sri.com [206.127.76.100]) by ns.mt.sri.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA14419; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:32:56 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@rocky.mt.sri.com) Received: by mt.sri.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id VAA11429; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:32:54 -0600 Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:32:54 -0600 Message-Id: <199909170332.VAA11429@mt.sri.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Amancio Hasty Cc: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams), "Louis A. Mamakos" , The Hermit Hacker , lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca, "Hentschel, Thomas" , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Radio Station ... In-Reply-To: <199909170330.UAA07203@rah.star-gate.com> References: <199909170327.VAA11387@mt.sri.com> <199909170330.UAA07203@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > The vast majority of end-users that do streaming media application use > > > either Real or Windows Media player. > > > > Real-Audio's quality is *really* bad, and the Windows Media Player > > appears to be on it's way our (recent press articles imply this...) > > What makes you think that windows media player is on its way out? > Just curious.... Microsoft ended up licensing Real Audio's media player for inclusion in Windows2000. I've read about this and other similar topics in some trade rags over the summer... Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 20:41:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9672015288 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:41:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA07279; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:39:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199909170339.UAA07279@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Cc: "Louis A. Mamakos" , The Hermit Hacker , lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca, "Hentschel, Thomas" , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Radio Station ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:32:54 MDT." <199909170332.VAA11429@mt.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:39:08 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org That sounds good . Now all we have to do is convice our old FreeBSD "buddies" at Real Audio to release a Real Audio Player for FreeBSD 8) Cheers > > > > The vast majority of end-users that do streaming media application use > > > > either Real or Windows Media player. > > > > > > Real-Audio's quality is *really* bad, and the Windows Media Player > > > appears to be on it's way our (recent press articles imply this...) > > > > What makes you think that windows media player is on its way out? > > Just curious.... > > Microsoft ended up licensing Real Audio's media player for inclusion in > Windows2000. I've read about this and other similar topics in some > trade rags over the summer... > > > Nate -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 20:57:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.nj.home.com (ha1.rdc1.nj.home.com [24.3.128.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D4215420 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:57:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from garycor@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.3.185.85]) by mail.rdc1.nj.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <19990917035743.NIBR9848.mail.rdc1.nj.home.com@home.com>; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 20:57:43 -0700 Message-ID: <37E1BDA1.2B806174@home.com> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:03:45 -0400 From: "Gary T. Corcoran" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randall Hopper Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is video overclocking risky? References: <19990916210053.A10590@ipass.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Randall Hopper wrote: > > I have a new Matrox G200 PCI I picked up, and I notice I pick up about > a 10% XStone increase by using "overclock_mem" in XFree86 3.9.16. > > So in practice, is this risky? Or do you just risk video corruption? > > > From what little I know, I think this means it clocks the RAMDAC > faster, so it (along with the memory) is being pushed. At high resolutions > and refresh rates when the RAMDAC is already up toward the high end of its > limits, I think this means it'll be running closer to or past the spec freq > limit (maybe pulling more current than it was designed to). Is this > right in practice? Whenever you clock chips beyond their specified limit, you risk overheating them. While this may cause nothing but extra heat in the short term, in the long term it can cause premature failure of your chips (video board) [e.g. due to accelerated electro-migration of the "wires" in your chips]. I'm not familiar with exactly what "overclock_mem" means, but I suppose it also may depend on your board manufacturer. For example, (at least in the past) Diamond was famous for pushing their "normal" clock rates up to the edge so they'd get better performance in the benchmarks. I don't think I'd want to overclock my old Diamond video board because of that... Gary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 21: 0:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3570153B9 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:00:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA94876; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:00:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <199909170400.AAA94876@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams) Cc: Amancio Hasty , The Hermit Hacker , lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca, "Hentschel, Thomas" , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: Radio Station ... References: <199909170327.VAA11387@mt.sri.com> <199909170330.UAA07203@rah.star-gate.com> <199909170332.VAA11429@mt.sri.com> In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:32:54 MDT." <199909170332.VAA11429@mt.sri.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:00:24 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > > The vast majority of end-users that do streaming media application use > > > > either Real or Windows Media player. > > > > > > Real-Audio's quality is *really* bad, and the Windows Media Player > > > appears to be on it's way our (recent press articles imply this...) > > > > What makes you think that windows media player is on its way out? > > Just curious.... > > Microsoft ended up licensing Real Audio's media player for inclusion in > Windows2000. I've read about this and other similar topics in some > trade rags over the summer... The player, or the CODECs? There's a lot more than obviously meets the eye going on in this market space, and Microsoft certainly hasn't ceeded away what they've done with NetShow and Media Player. Quite the contrary - if Media Player can play/decode content created with Real's software, well, you don't need Real player on your Windows machine, do you? louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 21: 6:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C855153B9 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:06:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA07438; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:04:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199909170404.VAA07438@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "Louis A. Mamakos" Cc: nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams), The Hermit Hacker , lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca, "Hentschel, Thomas" , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Radio Station ... In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:00:24 EDT." <199909170400.AAA94876@whizzo.transsys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:04:11 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > > > The vast majority of end-users that do streaming media application use > > > > > either Real or Windows Media player. > > > > > > > > Real-Audio's quality is *really* bad, and the Windows Media Player > > > > appears to be on it's way our (recent press articles imply this...) > > > > > > What makes you think that windows media player is on its way out? > > > Just curious.... > > > > Microsoft ended up licensing Real Audio's media player for inclusion in > > Windows2000. I've read about this and other similar topics in some > > trade rags over the summer... > > The player, or the CODECs? There's a lot more than obviously meets > the eye going on in this market space, and Microsoft certainly hasn't > ceeded away what they've done with NetShow and Media Player. Quite the > contrary - if Media Player can play/decode content created with Real's > software, well, you don't need Real player on your Windows machine, do you? > > louie > > And Microsoft has a lock on their MMS protocol so that means that only windows nt boxes are capable for serving ASF files and be able to access the underlying codec capabilities . For instance a Windows Media Player can chose to receive only the french audio stream in a system mpeg stream . -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Sep 16 22:46:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rgate.ricochet.net (rgate1.ricochet.net [204.179.143.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E9F014D96 for ; Thu, 16 Sep 1999 22:46:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from finlayson@live.com) Received: from mg139-042.ricochet.net (mg139-042.ricochet.net [204.179.139.42]) by rgate.ricochet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id AAA02518; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 00:46:08 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.16.19990916103943.13e76c88@shell7.ba.best.com> X-Sender: rsf@shell7.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (16) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 10:39:43 To: The Hermit Hacker From: Ross Finlayson Subject: Re: Radio Station ... Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > At the local University that I work at, they are planning on >setting up a "Internet Radio Station"...I've talked them into using >FreeBSD, and now that I've put my foot in it...what software is available >for doing this? Any? :?) If you're interested in doing both unicast *and* multicast, then you might want to consider streaming MP3 audio. On your FreeBSD server machine you can set up "LiveIce" (to do the encoding to MP3) and "Icecast" to do the streaming, to server unicast customers. (See ) Then, for multicast customers, you can use a program like "liveCaster" . This can take its input from an Icecast stream (or from locally-stored .mp3 files, or from stdin). Ross. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Sep 17 3:53:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D33CF14F46 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 03:52:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA14465 for freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:52:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:52:21 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199909171052.MAA14465@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Atapi CD audio ripper quality? Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Daniel O'Connor wrote in list.freebsd-multimedia: > > Presumably, because it's a digital medium, there is only one "correct" > > version. Right? > > Thats true, but gsince CD audio has no checksum information you don't KNOW if > you're getting the right data. That's not exactly correct. "Red Book" CDs (audio CDs) have two layers of error detection _and_ correction information. These are should be handled by the CD-ROM drive and not be visible to the software running o the computer. (CD-ROM has an additional third layer of error correction, at least for mode1 tracks -- that's why a CD-ROM has a lower effective capacity than an audio CD.) However, if any non-correctable errors occur, the drive will usually _not_ signal an error condition to the host when reading an audio CD, but it will try to just send "similar" data to the host ("similar" regarding the perception of the human ears). Different drives have different algorithms for that. Usually you can't hear it if such corrections occur, unless the CD is severely broken which leads to skipping and "clicking". Of course, when reading CD-ROM data tracks, the drive should always report an error to the host if a situation occurs in which the digital data can not be reproduced 100% correctly. > > So how do I tell which setting (if any) is giving me the correct output? In your case, it rather sounds like a software problem. If it gives you identical output most of the time when using the same options, then the CD and your drive are probably OK. If you get different results when using different options, I'd say your "grab" software is to blame. On the other hand, most IDE CD-ROM drives require so-called "jitter correction", which your grab software must support. using different options might affect the way the data comes out in that case. My recommendation is, of course, to buy a decent SCSI drive and use a grab utility such as cdd or tosha. :) Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Sep 17 4:11:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from solaris.matti.ee (solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C5214C16 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 04:11:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vallo@matti.ee) Received: from myhakas.matti.ee (myhakas.matti.ee [194.126.114.87]) by solaris.matti.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA06745; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:10:46 +0300 (EET DST) Received: by myhakas.matti.ee (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EE81E88; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:10:48 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:10:48 +0300 From: Vallo Kallaste To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: chip@eboai.org, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: icecast: special requirements? Message-ID: <19990917141048.A21383@myhakas.matti.ee> Reply-To: vallo@matti.ee References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: ; from The Hermit Hacker on Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 07:05:06PM -0300 Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?AS_Matti_B=FCrootehnika?= Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 07:05:06PM -0300, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > Do I have to have a soundcard *in* the machine I want to 'cast from? > > ===> Building for icecast-1.1.4 > cc -O -pipe -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -c -o get_local_stream.o get_local_stream.c > get_local_stream.c: In function `check_soundcard': > get_local_stream.c:77: `SNDCTL_DSP_SETDUPLEX' undeclared (first use in this func > tion) > get_local_stream.c:77: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > get_local_stream.c:77: for each function it appears in.) > get_local_stream.c: In function `open_soundcard': > get_local_stream.c:124: `SNDCTL_DSP_SETDUPLEX' undeclared (first use in this function) > > %uname -a > FreeBSD thelab.hub.org 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Sep 7 18:37:36 ADT 1999 The icecast-1.1.4 port compiled about a month ago while I experimented with it. I never got the liveice to work. I tried the 1.3.0 patchlevel 2, got it to work, but not the liveice. No matter what encoders I did use, tried lame, mp3enc for linux, l3enc for linux. I really miss working liveice support for icecast. -- Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Sep 17 4:53:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat203.199.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.203.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A655153FF for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 04:53:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA47640; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:53:15 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:53:15 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Vallo Kallaste Cc: chip@eboai.org, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: icecast: special requirements? In-Reply-To: <19990917141048.A21383@myhakas.matti.ee> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Vallo Kallaste wrote: > On Thu, Sep 16, 1999 at 07:05:06PM -0300, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > > Do I have to have a soundcard *in* the machine I want to 'cast from? > > > > ===> Building for icecast-1.1.4 > > cc -O -pipe -I. -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -c -o get_local_stream.o get_local_stream.c > > get_local_stream.c: In function `check_soundcard': > > get_local_stream.c:77: `SNDCTL_DSP_SETDUPLEX' undeclared (first use in this func > > tion) > > get_local_stream.c:77: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > > get_local_stream.c:77: for each function it appears in.) > > get_local_stream.c: In function `open_soundcard': > > get_local_stream.c:124: `SNDCTL_DSP_SETDUPLEX' undeclared (first use in this function) > > > > %uname -a > > FreeBSD thelab.hub.org 4.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #0: Tue Sep 7 18:37:36 ADT 1999 > > The icecast-1.1.4 port compiled about a month ago while I experimented > with it. I never got the liveice to work. I tried the 1.3.0 patchlevel > 2, got it to work, but not the liveice. No matter what encoders I did > use, tried lame, mp3enc for linux, l3enc for linux. I really miss working > liveice support for icecast. I'm running 1.3.0p2 right now, using shout and it all appears to work great... Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Sep 17 4:58:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat203.199.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.203.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5755014DE0 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 04:58:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA47654; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:58:49 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 08:58:49 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Ross Finlayson Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Radio Station ... In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.16.19990916103943.13e76c88@shell7.ba.best.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 16 Sep 1999, Ross Finlayson wrote: > > At the local University that I work at, they are planning on > >setting up a "Internet Radio Station"...I've talked them into using > >FreeBSD, and now that I've put my foot in it...what software is available > >for doing this? Any? :?) > > If you're interested in doing both unicast *and* multicast, then you might > want to consider streaming MP3 audio. On your FreeBSD server machine you > can set up "LiveIce" (to do the encoding to MP3) and "Icecast" to do the > streaming, to server unicast customers. (See ) > > Then, for multicast customers, you can use a program like "liveCaster" > . This can take its input from an Icecast > stream (or from locally-stored .mp3 files, or from stdin). *Beautiful*...you answered another question I had...looking at that now :) Thanks... Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Sep 17 5:16:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from solaris.matti.ee (solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8D5F158AA for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 05:16:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vallo@matti.ee) Received: from myhakas.matti.ee (myhakas.matti.ee [194.126.114.87]) by solaris.matti.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10380; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:16:41 +0300 (EET DST) Received: by myhakas.matti.ee (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 047BA88; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:16:43 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:16:43 +0300 From: Vallo Kallaste To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: Vallo Kallaste , chip@eboai.org, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: icecast: special requirements? Message-ID: <19990917151643.A24934@myhakas.matti.ee> Reply-To: vallo@matti.ee References: <19990917141048.A21383@myhakas.matti.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: ; from The Hermit Hacker on Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 08:53:15AM -0300 Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?AS_Matti_B=FCrootehnika?= Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 08:53:15AM -0300, The Hermit Hacker wrote: > > The icecast-1.1.4 port compiled about a month ago while I experimented > > with it. I never got the liveice to work. I tried the 1.3.0 patchlevel > > 2, got it to work, but not the liveice. No matter what encoders I did > > use, tried lame, mp3enc for linux, l3enc for linux. I really miss working > > liveice support for icecast. > > I'm running 1.3.0p2 right now, using shout and it all appears to work > great... Yes, shout works well. Everything works but liveice. Try and in the case you get liveice working I'm very interested. -- Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Sep 17 5:33: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat203.199.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.203.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03FB0158DD for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 05:30:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA47810 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:30:32 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:30:31 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Multicast: a blanket protocol? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Okay... I'm *slowly* moving forward on this, but still am not sure of the underlying technology/protocols... If I run liveCaster (multicast) on our network of ~4000 computers...do all those 4000 computers see packets? For instance, assuming that a computer is doing absolutely nothing network wise, but were to watch their ethernet, would they see a pretty constant '56k of traffic' hitting their machine? Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Sep 17 5:45:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat203.199.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.203.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0AA914C15 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 05:45:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA47937 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:45:46 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:45:46 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: liveCaster ... MBone? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org OKay...more specific then the last... I just got LiveCaster up and running...and, using freeamp, its running in a co-workers office to connect via rtp to the server...most cool... The question is how far does this "broadcast" go? For instance, my co-worker and I are on the same subnet, with other ppl on other subnet's be able to see the stream also, or is there somethign special I have to do at the router, or? Thanks... Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Sep 17 6:18:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat203.199.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.203.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95A1014A08 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 06:18:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA48145 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:18:40 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:18:39 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: liveCaster: estimated audience stats... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Am I correct in assuming that since its multicast, getting stats on number of listeners is impossible? *raised eyebrow* Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Sep 17 6:50:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from nets5.rz.rwth-aachen.de (nets5.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3627714BCC for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 06:49:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuku@gilberto.physik.RWTH-Aachen.DE) Received: from campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.116.240]) by nets5.rz.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1/7) with ESMTP id PAA25143 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:49:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.30.2]) by campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1/3) with ESMTP id PAA08085 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:49:29 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.2/8.6.9) id PAA18519 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:49:25 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 15:49:25 +0200 (CEST) From: Christoph Kukulies Message-Id: <199909171349.PAA18519@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: playing direct midi in Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Any of you sound gurus knowing what I can do when I want to plug in my midi keyboard and use the computer as a 'sound canvas'? (card is a GUS MAX). (I'm running the oss $ound driver) -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Sep 17 7:39:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from nets5.rz.rwth-aachen.de (nets5.rz.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.144.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17E7514EBF for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 07:35:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kuku@gilberto.physik.RWTH-Aachen.DE) Received: from campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (campino.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.116.240]) by nets5.rz.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1/7) with ESMTP id QAA29000 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:35:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de [137.226.30.2]) by campino.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.1a/8.9.1/3) with ESMTP id QAA09419 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:35:24 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.9.2/8.6.9) id QAA18780 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:35:30 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:35:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Christoph Kukulies Message-Id: <199909171435.QAA18780@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: rosegarden Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone successfully using 'rosegarden', the midi and notation tool? -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Sep 17 9:19:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from proxy2.ba.best.com (proxy2.ba.best.com [206.184.139.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BF2A1589E for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:19:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from finlayson@live.com) Received: from kaipara.live.com (kaipara.live.com [206.86.37.12]) by proxy2.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id JAA02060; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 09:12:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.16.19990916210208.21971158@shell7.ba.best.com> X-Sender: rsf@shell7.ba.best.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (16) Date: Thu, 16 Sep 1999 21:02:08 To: The Hermit Hacker From: Ross Finlayson Subject: Re: Multicast: a blanket protocol? Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Answering your various questions about multicast & liveCaster > If I run liveCaster (multicast) on our network of ~4000 >computers...do all those 4000 computers see packets? This depends upon how sophisticated your network's switches/routers are, but in general, every machine on your network *that has subscribed to the multicast address* will see packets. (Caveats: (i) If you have level-3 routers in your network, then they may have to be especially configured to do multicast routing. (ii) If you have level-2 switches in your network that aren't particularly sophisticated, then they *may* end up delivering multicast packets to all network segments (even those without hosts who have subscribed to the multicast address).) >The question is how far does this "broadcast" go? For instance, my >co-worker and I are on the same subnet, with other ppl on other subnet's >be able to see the stream also, or is there somethign special I have to do >at the router, or? If, as is likely, you have level-3 (i.e., IP level) routers between these subnets, then you may have to configure them to handle multicast routing. (Check with your network administrator and/or router vendor.) >Am I correct in assuming that since its multicast, getting stats on number >of listeners is impossible? *raised eyebrow* Getting *exact* statistics is, in general, impossible. However, if the multicast receiving tool implements RTCP, then it will periodically send back (via multicast) a 'status' message. The sending tool (liveCaster) will then receive these and use this to count the known audience size. (This count is shown in liveCaster's main window.) Note, however, that "Freeamp" - even though it can receive MP3/RTP multicast, currently does not implement RTCP, so if some of your listeners use Freeamp to receive your broadcast, you won't be able to count them. On the other hand, the "playRTPMPEG" tool (which works by feeding a separate, existing MP3 player tool) *does* implement RTCP, so you will be able to count (estimate) them. (Note: I will shortly be releasing a MP3/RTP input 'plugin' for the popular "Winamp" Windows MP3 audio player. This will also use RTCP.) Ross. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Sep 17 10: 2:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from longacre.demon.co.uk (longacre.demon.co.uk [158.152.156.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44CFB14FCA for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:02:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from searle@longacre.demon.co.uk) Received: (from searle@localhost) by longacre.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA03659; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:35:32 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from searle) Message-ID: <19990917123532.07117@longacre.demon.co.uk> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:35:32 +0100 From: Michael Searle To: "Gary T. Corcoran" , Randall Hopper Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is video overclocking risky? Reply-To: searle@longacre.demon.co.uk References: <19990916210053.A10590@ipass.net> <37E1BDA1.2B806174@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.89i In-Reply-To: <37E1BDA1.2B806174@home.com>; from Gary T. Corcoran on Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 12:03:45AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 12:03:45AM -0400, Gary T. Corcoran wrote: > > Randall Hopper wrote: > > > > I have a new Matrox G200 PCI I picked up, and I notice I pick up about > > a 10% XStone increase by using "overclock_mem" in XFree86 3.9.16. > > > > So in practice, is this risky? Or do you just risk video corruption? > > > > > > From what little I know, I think this means it clocks the RAMDAC > > faster, so it (along with the memory) is being pushed. At high resolutions > > and refresh rates when the RAMDAC is already up toward the high end of its > > limits, I think this means it'll be running closer to or past the spec freq > > limit (maybe pulling more current than it was designed to). Is this > > right in practice? > > Whenever you clock chips beyond their specified limit, you risk overheating > them. While this may cause nothing but extra heat in the short term, in > the long term it can cause premature failure of your chips (video board) > [e.g. due to accelerated electro-migration of the "wires" in your chips]. > > I'm not familiar with exactly what "overclock_mem" means, but I suppose > it also may depend on your board manufacturer. For example, (at least > in the past) Diamond was famous for pushing their "normal" clock rates > up to the edge so they'd get better performance in the benchmarks. > I don't think I'd want to overclock my old Diamond video board because > of that... > > Gary > AFAIK, this is clocking the memory faster, not the RAMDAC. (The usual ways to overclock a video card are the memory and the accelerator.) I have a Matrox G200 AGP (SGRAM version) and under Windozo it can be clocked at over 120MHz (compared to 94.5MHz standard) for 3D and up to 130MHz for 2D only. Not all G200s can do this (most are clocked at 89MHz standard - an older version?), but it is a very overclockable chip. (I've not tried overclocking it in X, as I only have 3.3.5.) The G200 accelerator is locked to the memory speed, so this runs faster at higher clock rates also - the performance increase can be close to the clock increase. IMHO, long term effects are not very relevant to a video card. Chips are made to last several years but are obsolete in several months... If you are worried about heat though there are video card fans available, including one for the G200. -- searle@longacre.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Sep 17 10:14: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E26F014F3A for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:14:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13324; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:11:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199909171711.KAA13324@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: searle@longacre.demon.co.uk Cc: "Gary T. Corcoran" , Randall Hopper , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is video overclocking risky? In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:35:32 BST." <19990917123532.07117@longacre.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:11:08 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Overclocking is not a good idea and I have worked on X servers. -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Sep 17 10:42: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from phluffy.fks.bt (170-15.dynamic.visi.com [209.98.170.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595F914E0A for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:41:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) Received: from localhost (myke@localhost) by phluffy.fks.bt (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09719; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:41:21 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) X-Authentication-Warning: phluffy.fks.bt: myke owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:41:21 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Holling X-Sender: myke@phluffy.fks.bt To: Christoph Kukulies Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: playing direct midi in In-Reply-To: <199909171349.PAA18519@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Any of you sound gurus knowing what I can do > when I want to plug in my midi keyboard and use the computer > as a 'sound canvas'? (card is a GUS MAX). I've done a little bit of work on this, using the OSS drivers. You can either use the OSS MIDI sequencer (not too well documented, especially for incoming MIDI) or just write your own code to monitor /dev/midi. Of course, if you're trying to make something like a sequencer you'll need to figure out exactly when MIDI events were received on the device, which may be tricky. On the other hand I was able to write a very basic synthesizer in Perl by simply reading /dev/midi and looking for note-on events. I got additional documentation from OSS support that's not available on their web site. It's somewhat preliminary (they promise to have a revised doc on their web site "real soon now") but it's enough to get you going with the OSS MIDI sequencer. Ask them for it, or I can email you a copy. - Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Sep 17 10:46:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from phluffy.fks.bt (170-15.dynamic.visi.com [209.98.170.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D39B414E0A for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 10:46:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) Received: from localhost (myke@localhost) by phluffy.fks.bt (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09729; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:46:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from myke@ees.com) X-Authentication-Warning: phluffy.fks.bt: myke owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:46:01 -0500 (CDT) From: Mike Holling X-Sender: myke@phluffy.fks.bt To: Christoph Kukulies Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rosegarden In-Reply-To: <199909171435.QAA18780@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Anyone successfully using 'rosegarden', the midi and notation tool? Works for me, although I've never gotten the direct MIDI playback to work. I use the "slave helper" mode and have it pipe MIDI thru Timidity, which isn't as good as direct MIDI control but works. - ike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Sep 17 11:30:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7489414C9C for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 11:29:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA27002 Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:29:45 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37E28898.15FB@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 19:29:44 +0100 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: LG Tuner Data Sheets Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, The new AVerMedia Bt848/878 cards use LG Tuners now (and not Temic or Philips) Our Bt848 driver seems to work ok treating them as Philips tuners. It is possible they are Philips clones. (the new Temic Tuners are now Philips clones) I've looked all over the LG web site, but found nothing. Can anyone help? Roger -- Roger Hardiman | Telepresence Research Group roger@cs.strath.ac.uk | DMEM, University of Strathclyde tel: 0141 548 2897 | Glasgow, Scotland, G1 1XJ, UK fax: 0141 552 0557 | http://telepresence.dmem.strath.ac.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Sep 17 12:21:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from solaris.matti.ee (solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 098AE14BFF for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 12:21:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vallo@matti.ee) Received: from myhakas.matti.ee (myhakas.matti.ee [194.126.114.87]) by solaris.matti.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA29715 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 22:21:04 +0300 (EET DST) Received: by myhakas.matti.ee (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D4E2375; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 22:21:04 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 22:21:04 +0300 From: Vallo Kallaste To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Wrong define 3.9.16 Xarch.h Message-ID: <19990917222104.A13681@myhakas.matti.ee> Reply-To: vallo@matti.ee Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?AS_Matti_B=FCrootehnika?= Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello Today I tried to compile the new KDE 1.1.2 from the ports. The compile process broke in the ImageMagic, because of defining sys/byteorder.h for FreeBSD. I haven't found it in my very recent system. I'm using XFree86 beta 3.9.16 and the define makes place in /usr/X11R6/include/X11/Xarch.h. Got around by commenting out this particular define. I don't know who needs to be informed about this, please somebody take over the issue. I'm writing here because of recent discussions in this list about beta XFree. Thanks -- Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Sep 17 14:31:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E55B1528B for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 14:31:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-88.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.88]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04000 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:38:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id QAA01160 for multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:39:26 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 16:39:26 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is video overclocking risky? Message-ID: <19990917163926.A1017@ipass.net> References: <19990917123532.07117@longacre.demon.co.uk> <199909171711.KAA13324@rah.star-gate.com> <19990916210053.A10590@ipass.net> <37E1BDA1.2B806174@home.com> <19990917123532.07117@longacre.demon.co.uk> <19990916210053.A10590@ipass.net> <37E1BDA1.2B806174@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <37E1BDA1.2B806174@home.com>; from Gary T. Corcoran on Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 12:03:45AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for all the replies. I'll hold off on overclocking it for now. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Sep 17 18:30: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from itchy.serv.net (itchy.serv.net [205.153.153.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19CB914FB3 for ; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:29:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from utz@itchy.serv.net) Received: from localhost (utz@localhost) by itchy.serv.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id SAA56141; Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:28:17 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 17 Sep 1999 18:28:15 -0700 (PDT) From: The Utz Family To: Christoph Kukulies Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rosegarden In-Reply-To: <199909171435.QAA18780@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > > Anyone successfully using 'rosegarden', the midi and notation tool? > > > -- > Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de somebody has, but i cant confirm there success because my hw is unsupported currently :-( here is the two mail items they sent into the rosegarden mailing list. u might want to get in touch with the author of these patches ########################################################################### Hi! I'm trying to use Rosegarden 2.1-beta on FreeBSD 3.2-stable and came across the following problems: Trying to play _BREEZE.MID (example from session wintendo sequencer) kills Rosegarden Sequencer, popping up the dialog with Chris Cannam's old email address. (which bounced which is why i subscribed to this list.) Trying to play almost(?) anything else, for example glazunov.rose sends SEQ_MIDIPUTC with strange device bytes (the one i checked was 0x20, i have only one midi device configured), leading to kernel panics until i patched this: Index: sequencer.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/cvs/cvs/src/sys/i386/isa/sound/sequencer.c,v retrieving revision 1.23.2.1 diff -u -r1.23.2.1 sequencer.c --- sequencer.c 1999/05/04 13:42:01 1.23.2.1 +++ sequencer.c 1999/06/14 22:42:44 @@ -338,7 +338,7 @@ if (event[0] == SEQ_MIDIPUTC) { - if (!midi_opened[event[2]]) { + if (event[2] >= max_mididev || !midi_opened[event[2]]) { int mode; int dev = event[2]; @@ -853,7 +853,7 @@ break; case SEQ_MIDIPUTC: /* Put a midi character */ - if (midi_opened[q[2]]) { + if (q[2] < max_mididev && midi_opened[q[2]]) { int dev; dev = q[2]; (2.0.1 didn't do this.) Does 0x20 have some special meaning FreeBSD's sound system doesn't yet know? Now it prints Rosegarden OSS Mapper: write /dev/sequencer failed: Device not configured which is most likely generated by the patches 1st hunk. Here is how i patched rosegarden to make it see FreeBSD's sound system: Index: configure.in @@ -160,7 +160,7 @@ *freebsd*) defines="-DNO_SYS_ERRLIST" - AC_CHECK_HEADER(sys/soundcard.h, sound_system="-DSYSTEM_FREEBSD") + AC_CHECK_HEADER(machine/soundcard.h, sound_system="-DSYSTEM_OSS") # extra_libs="-lmalloc" LDFLAGS="-L/usr/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib" Index: include/Mapper_OSS.h @@ -4,7 +4,7 @@ #undef MIDI_PITCH_BEND #endif -#ifdef SYSTEM_FREEBSD +#if defined(SYSTEM_FREEBSD) || defined(__FreeBSD__) #include #elif SYSTEM_OSS #include Index: mapper/src/Mapper_OSS.c @@ -13,6 +13,9 @@ #include #include #include +#ifndef ENOENT +#include +#endif #include #include and _BREEZE.MID i can mail to anyone interested... Regards, -- Juergen Lock (remove dot foo from address to reply) -- [Cc'd to -hackers because of the MIDI sound driver patches, i'm running this on FreeBSD 3.2-stable with Seigo TANIMURA's midi driver for serial ports and with an old Atari MSTe as serial<->midi interface...] On Wed, Jun 16, 1999 at 09:05:29PM +0200, I wrote: > Hi! I'm trying to use Rosegarden 2.1-beta on FreeBSD 3.2-stable > and came across the following problems: > > Trying to play _BREEZE.MID (example from session wintendo sequencer) > kills Rosegarden Sequencer, popping up the dialog with Chris Cannam's > old email address. (which bounced which is why i subscribed to this list.) > Trying to play almost(?) anything else, for example glazunov.rose > sends SEQ_MIDIPUTC with strange device bytes (the one i checked was 0x20, > i have only one midi device configured), leading to kernel panics until i > patched this: First, this was actually 020 ie 16... anyway, problem fixed itself: rebuilt mapper/src/Mapper.o with -g and found out Mapper_NewDeviceList() turned Device.Data.Midi.device from 0 into 16. Looked at the source and thought `strange'... Rebuilt mapper/src/Device.o with -g and suddenly Mapper_NewDeviceList() stopped doing that and everything worked again! Rebuilt Mapper.o and Device.o without -g and everything still worked. *hmmm*. Any insight how that could have happened very much appreciated... As for _BREEZE.MID, i guess that still segfaults (haven't tried). Okay so playback works again, now recording: it played back nothing from the existing tracks until i hit a note, then it played a few notes and stopped until i hit another note, and so on. Also the stop button didn't visibly react until i hit another note. Well so that must be a real difference between linux' sound system and FreeBSD's... this patch fixed it: Index: sequencer.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/cvs/cvs/src/sys/i386/isa/sound/sequencer.c,v retrieving revision 1.23.2.1 diff -u -r1.23.2.1 sequencer.c --- sequencer.c 1999/05/04 13:42:01 1.23.2.1 +++ sequencer.c 1999/06/20 20:44:37 @@ -162,8 +162,23 @@ int chn; +#if 1 + /* + * XXX don't wait if pre_event_timeout 0 (default), + * rosegarden sequencer seems to expect this + * behaviour (use -1 for no timeout) + */ + if (pre_event_timeout == 0) { + splx(flags); + return 0; + } + midi_sleeper = &chn; + DO_SLEEP(chn, midi_sleep_flag, pre_event_timeout == -1 ? + 0 : pre_event_timeout); +#else midi_sleeper = &chn; DO_SLEEP(chn, midi_sleep_flag, pre_event_timeout); +#endif if (!iqlen) { splx(flags); @@ -402,7 +417,7 @@ seq_sleeper = &chn; - DO_SLEEP(chn, seq_sleep_flag, 0); + DO_SLEEP(chn, seq_sleep_flag, hz / 10); } if (qlen >= SEQ_MAX_QUEUE) @@ -1223,7 +1238,7 @@ int chn; seq_sleeper = &chn; - DO_SLEEP(chn, seq_sleep_flag, 0); + DO_SLEEP(chn, seq_sleep_flag, hz / 10); } splx(flags); (the bottom 2 hunks are for a hang in ioctl SNDCTL_SEQ_SYNC and a possible similar hang in another place.) Alright so now i have a recorded track. But trying to delete a note got me a segfault and viewing the data as piano roll as well as saving and reloading the midi file got me -- an empty track. Also the `Recorded Track ..' and `Created by the Rosegarden sequencer' labels appeared at the end of the new track not at the start... Well, i found the fix for that too: :) Index: sequencer/src/Record.c @@ -178,6 +178,7 @@ (&EventBuffer, True)); } + RunningPtr = (EventList)First(RunningPtr); TempPtr = Midi_SeqRecordTimingDefaults(&RunningPtr); Midi_TrackConvertToOnePointRepresentation(TempPtr); Mapper_NewTrackMetaInfo(); Now i still have to find out why my midi keyboard keeps changing the volume between full and low at the start of every x'th playback, another problem of the more stranger kind... Happy MIDI-ing, -- Juergen Lock (remove dot foo from address to reply) -- To unsubscribe, send email to rosegarden-unsubscribe@lists.bath.ac.uk On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > > Anyone successfully using 'rosegarden', the midi and notation tool? > > > -- > Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Sep 18 3:53:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from dialup124.zpr.uni-koeln.de (1-6.K.dial.o-tel-o.net [212.144.1.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5316E14E8D; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 03:53:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from se@zpr.uni-koeln.de) Received: by dialup124.zpr.uni-koeln.de (Postfix, from userid 200) id A5D98D5C; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 12:32:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 12:32:19 +0200 From: Stefan Esser To: Doug Rabson Cc: Marc van Woerkom , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, Stefan Esser Subject: Re: New 3D software available Message-ID: <19990918123219.A797@dialup124.zpr.uni-koeln.de> Reply-To: se@freebsd.org References: <19990911123657.C866@dialup124.zpr.uni-koeln.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary=2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: ; from Doug Rabson on Sat, Sep 11, 1999 at 11:55:16AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --2oS5YaxWCcQjTEyO Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On 1999-09-11 11:55 +0100, Doug Rabson wrote: > > Ummm, I have a completed port waiting for a week already, but had no time > > to commit it ... > > Cool! Can I see it? Sure! Sorry it took me so long to post the port. Have been too busy ... 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Durham" Organization: dis- X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The Utz Family Cc: Christoph Kukulies , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rosegarden References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The Utz Family wrote: > > On Fri, 17 Sep 1999, Christoph Kukulies wrote: > > > > > Anyone successfully using 'rosegarden', the midi and notation tool? > > > > > > -- > > Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de > > somebody has, but i cant confirm there success because my hw is > unsupported currently :-( (snip) I know this isn't a lot of help, but I was running it on an AMD K5 running 3.0-SNAP. I was using a "plain vanilla" Soundblaster 16 . I was able to create score with it from my midi keyboard and from the computer keyboard. It also played midi, but very simply, not at all like timidity does. I also was able to drive my midi keyboard with it as an "external synthesizer" and play my noodlings back to me. I remember it being very touchy in some areas, but it worked. As I recall, I wouldn't call it "production quality" ! I since lost that system to a lightning hit and haven't re-installed RoseGarden on the new system yet, but I thought you might want to know that it *did* work, however, it's been a year or so and the details of problems are fuzzy now. -- Jim Durham To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Sep 18 17: 0:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 351F114D35 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 17:00:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial5-92.netcologne.de [194.8.195.92]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA12238; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 02:00:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA02642; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 01:59:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 01:59:37 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199909182359.BAA02642@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: tee-ing a sound stream Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Before I attempt to hack the audio driver, I rather ask again: Is there a general way to branch off the data that will be output by an audio driver into a file? sound data -> /dev/audio -+--> speaker | v file (.wav otwhatever) Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Sep 18 17:24:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F1CD14D09 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 17:24:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA29548; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 17:24:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199909190024.RAA29548@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tee-ing a sound stream In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 19 Sep 1999 01:59:37 +0200." <199909182359.BAA02642@oranje.my.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 17:24:26 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, you output the data to a file and to the sound driver. There is no need to hack the audio driver to send an input stream to a file unless you don't have access to the original sound stream and program source. / -> /dev/audio sound data \ -> file -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Sep 18 17:35:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704C114DD1 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 17:35:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial6-96.netcologne.de [194.8.196.96]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA12895; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 02:35:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA02916; Sun, 19 Sep 1999 02:34:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Sun, 19 Sep 1999 02:34:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199909190034.CAA02916@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: hasty@rah.star-gate.com Cc: van.woerkom@netcologne.de, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <199909190024.RAA29548@rah.star-gate.com> (message from Amancio Hasty on Sat, 18 Sep 1999 17:24:26 -0700) Subject: Re: tee-ing a sound stream Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de References: <199909190024.RAA29548@rah.star-gate.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > need to hack the audio driver to send an input stream to a file unless > you don't have access to the original sound stream and program source. Among other things I want be able to save part of a Real Audio broadcast for later re-listening. Sounds like a generic audio-tee driver would make sense, that a program writes to, and that iself would pass on data to a file and a true audio driver. Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Sep 18 17:38:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8152615089 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 17:38:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA29660; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 17:37:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199909190037.RAA29660@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tee-ing a sound stream In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 19 Sep 1999 02:34:54 +0200." <199909190034.CAA02916@oranje.my.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 17:37:57 -0700 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thats fine ... Have Fun! -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Sep 18 18:42:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from poboxer.pobox.com (ferg5200-1-46.cpinternet.com [208.149.16.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA54E15116 for ; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 18:42:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alk@poboxer.pobox.com) Received: (from alk@localhost) by poboxer.pobox.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA38707; Sat, 18 Sep 1999 20:41:48 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from alk) From: Anthony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 18 Sep 1999 20:41:48 -0500 (CDT) X-Face: \h9Jg:Cuivl4S*UP-)gO.6O=T]]@ncM*tn4zG);)lk#4|lqEx=*talx?.Gk,dMQU2)ptPC17cpBzm(l'M|H8BUF1&]dDCxZ.c~Wy6-j,^V1E(NtX$FpkkdnJixsJHE95JlhO 5\M3jh'YiO7KPCn0~W`Ro44_TB@&JuuqRqgPL'0/{):7rU-%.*@/>q?1&Ed Reply-To: alk@pobox.com To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tee-ing a sound stream References: <199909190024.RAA29548@rah.star-gate.com> <199909190034.CAA02916@oranje.my.domain> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14308.15475.162264.375285@avalon.east> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoth Marc van Woerkom on Sun, 19 September: : : Sounds like a generic audio-tee driver would make sense, that : a program writes to, and that iself would pass on data to a file : and a true audio driver. Having wanted to do this for some time, I have formed opinions about how this should be done -- if you are interested: I think it should be done as a device which passes calls on to the existing pcm driver. Make an ioctl which allows one to pass a descriptor to the audio-tee device. The ioctl should be sticky, i.e. should survive closes, so that an aucontrol program can start/stop recording. By passing a descriptor, you make it script-able and allow it to interoperate with sockets, &c. For example, if I want to send all the decoded pcm data to a tcp port, I can use netcat to make that port stdout, and the yet-to-be-written aucontrol program to pass a descriptor for the socket to the driver. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message