From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 31 11:14:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from bachue.usc.unal.edu.co (bachue.usc.unal.edu.co [168.176.3.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B8114C0E for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 11:14:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pfgiffun@bachue.usc.unal.edu.co) Received: from bachue.usc.unal.edu.co ([168.176.3.33]) by bachue.usc.unal.edu.co (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA4C7F for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:13:54 -0500 Message-ID: <381C9491.D46F676D@bachue.usc.unal.edu.co> Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 14:12:17 -0500 From: "Pedro F. Giffuni" Organization: Universidad Nacional de Colombia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: it,es-CO MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-multimedia@FreeBSD.org Subject: Compaq Business Audio (old) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have an old Compaq Deskpro /i running FreeBSD 3.3-Release. The card is supposed to be compatible with Microsoft Sound System but I had never got it working with FreeBSD. I say "had" because the latest release succesfully works but with a very low volume: ... pcm0 at 0x530 irq 11 drq 1 flags 0x9100 on isa mss_attach 0 at 0x530 irq 11 dma 1:1 flags 0x9100 ... Full duplex (flag 0x13) doesn't work, but the card supports it. I would like to try to get this working properly (the volume first then maybe full duplex), Any recommendations (or patches)? TIA, Pedro. (Please include me in the reply since I'm not yet subscribed to -multimedia) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 31 12: 5:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7316714C01 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 12:05:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-139.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.139]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28343; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:05:32 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id PAA09136; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:05:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:05:23 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Gianmarco Giovannelli Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: suggestions on play video Message-ID: <19991031150522.A8200@ipass.net> References: <4.2.0.58.19991031003022.009d6600@194.184.65.4> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19991031003022.009d6600@194.184.65.4> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gianmarco Giovannelli: |But there is a thing that I am not sure how to implement. |He asked me to show some video trails too ... I can make them in any format |I like, but I am not sure how I can play them back... |Xanim can do the job for me ? Netscape can play any video format natively ? |It's not a problem to launch an external program from the html itself, but |it has to works... | |So I am looking for suggestions: |1) Which kind of format have I to use (mpeg, avi etc ... ) ?? |2) Which program have I to use (xanim, netscape itself ...) ?? |3) Which kind of (sound) hardware works best with pcm0 drivers (and with |the tool at point 1) ? Here are some options: MPEG - mpeg_play, mpeg2play, mtv (www.mpegtv.com) AVI,QT - xanim To play videos inside the Netscape window, you need to have a plug-in, or the app needs to be compatible with xswallow (itself a plug-in). I have Netscape configured to play imbedded MPEGs, Quicktimes, and AVIs using xanim via xswallow. Also note that not all videos will play using xanim (some of the Star Wars trailers come to mind). It just depends on what codecs they used. AFA a good soundcard for pcm0, Luigi can give the best answer. Basically just look for one that supports 44KHz 16-bit stereo that's well supported by the drivers. I'm using the old Voxware code, and any SB16 or compatible card is a good pick there. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 31 17: 6:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.netcologne.de (mail2.netcologne.de [194.8.194.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6E6314A1E for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 17:06:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Received: from oranje.my.domain (dial8-196.netcologne.de [195.14.235.196]) by mail2.netcologne.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA05550; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 02:06:04 +0100 (MET) Received: (from marc@localhost) by oranje.my.domain (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA13247; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 02:05:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from van.woerkom@netcologne.de) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 02:05:29 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <199911010105.CAA13247@oranje.my.domain> X-Authentication-Warning: oranje.my.domain: marc set sender to van.woerkom@netcologne.de using -f From: Marc van Woerkom To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Creative seems to open up SB Live Reply-To: van.woerkom@netcologne.de Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This interesting article http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/10/29/2053221&mode=nested and this comment OK, I guess the cat is out of the bag now. Like the article says, Creative is opening the sources to the existing SBLive (Emu10K1, technically) Linux kernel driver. The current sourcebase is what would have been release as beta4 of the driver, with 4-speaker support (stereo mirroring only at present) and SPDIF output being the main changes from beta3. Also being released are beta sources for a DXR2 driver which were donated to Creative by Andrew de Quincey (thanks, Andrew!). The source for both projects will be released under the GPL. We are planning to submit kernel patches as soon as possible, after the open-source development community has had a chance to beat on the driver sources for a bit and whip them into shape. Also as the article mentioned, Creative is going to launch an open-source development support site with FAQs, CVS repositiories, CVSWeb tracking, Bugzilla, mailing lists, and all the other standard open source project website services. The site will be up and running sometime early next week - PLEASE do not overload developer.soundblaster.com with repeated checks to see if the site is up yet, OK? We'll announce loud and clear when the server goes live. So, that's where things stand as of Friday evening. All of us here at Creative are really excited about this, and we have all worked hard to get to this point. Huge numbers of people have been asking for the source since we announced the driver development project early this year. Many of those same e-mails were from people who wanted to be able to hack the driver sources themselves. Well, here's what you all have been asking for all year, and what we promised you back in February. Happy hacking! Jon Taylor Linux Driver Engineer Creative Labs jtaylor@creativelabs.com have been posted to Slashdot. BTW anyone knows what nvidia work was mentioned by this quote? "Jon Taylor, of S3 and nVidia fame" Regards, Marc To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sun Oct 31 19:45:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5295114EB7 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 19:45:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-154.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.154]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA03076 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:44:54 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id WAA21107 for freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:44:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:44:46 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Creative seems to open up SB Live Message-ID: <19991031224446.B20788@ipass.net> References: <199911010105.CAA13247@oranje.my.domain> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <199911010105.CAA13247@oranje.my.domain> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Marc van Woerkom: |This interesting article | | http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/10/29/2053221&mode=nested | |and this comment | | OK, I guess the cat is out of the bag now. Like the article says, | Creative is opening the sources to the existing SBLive (Emu10K1, | technically) Linux kernel driver. The current sourcebase is what would | have been release as beta4 of the driver, with 4-speaker support (stereo | mirroring only at present) and SPDIF output being the main changes from | beta3. Awesome! Do 4-channel MP3s exist yet?! If not, bet it won't be long. DVD decoder cards, HDTV tuner cards, Dolby Pro-Logic decoder cards, ... [drool] If this materializes, man, I'm definitely going to upgrade the sound system in this room! :-) Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Nov 1 8:52:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D331315269 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:52:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA36073; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:52:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:52:21 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White To: Marc van Woerkom Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Creative seems to open up SB Live In-Reply-To: <199911010105.CAA13247@oranje.my.domain> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Marc van Woerkom wrote: > BTW anyone knows what nvidia work was mentioned by this quote? > > "Jon Taylor, of S3 and nVidia fame" Taylor was responsible for bringing the proprietary S3 and nVidia drivers into the light. Or so I'm told. Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Nov 1 9:21:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from timbuk-e1.cray.com (timbuk-fddi.cray.com [128.162.8.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDEB914BCD for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:21:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cattelan@thebarn.com) Received: from ledzep.cray.com (ledzep.cray.com [137.38.226.97]) by timbuk-e1.cray.com (8.8.8/CRI-gate-news-1.3) with ESMTP id LAA07866 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:21:14 -0600 (CST) Received: from daisy.cray.com (daisy-e185.cray.com [128.162.185.214]) by ledzep.cray.com (8.9.3/craymail-smart) with ESMTP id LAA14717485 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:21:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from thebarn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by daisy.cray.com (8.8.8/SGI-server-1.2a) with ESMTP id LAA4630578 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:21:12 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <381DCC07.1759F779@thebarn.com> Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 11:21:11 -0600 From: Russell Cattelan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX64 6.5 IP27) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Creative seems to open up SB Live References: <199911010105.CAA13247@oranje.my.domain> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Marc van Woerkom wrote: > This interesting article > > http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=99/10/29/2053221&mode=nested > This is good news, it would be even better news if the performance of this card was better. I've been doing some research into PC sound cards in an effort to find one that performs at better than "for games" level. My intention is to have a computer with digital I/O card using an external DAC. This should isolate the noisy power supply of the computer from the analog path and hopefully reduce the noise to imperceptible levels. The SB live looked like the card to have until I found some test results that showed some less than favorable results, specifically the digital I/O is listed as "no better" than the analog! (30 hz to 15khz ) http://www.pcavtech.com/soundcards/ct4620/index.htm Actually I would be interested in hearing about people experience with Digital I/O capable sound cards. I have found several professional level cards with far more capabilities than I looking for, and a far higher price tag to go with it. The most promising card I have found so far is the MIDI man DiO 2448. http://www.midiman.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Nov 1 10: 2:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from galileo.physics.purdue.edu (galileo.physics.purdue.edu [128.210.67.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1106D1530C for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:02:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jonsmith@physics.purdue.edu) Received: from localhost (jonsmith@localhost) by galileo.physics.purdue.edu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id NAA70700 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:02:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jonsmith@galileo.physics.purdue.edu) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 13:02:33 -0500 (EST) From: Jon Smith To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Sigma Designs speaks on the hollywood plus Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I sent them the following message: <> > Do you have any plans to make the Hollywood Plus usable under Linux or > FreeBSD or any other NON-Windows operating systems? > > Point of question: I have and use Windows NT almost exclusively to play my > DVD's. Why am I being forced to pay homage (and $$$$) to Bill Gates to > use this product? Unlike many things, this technology does require > security to prevent anyone from copying the DVD's. > <> Their response: Hi, A new product based on the new EM8400 chipset will support Linux. Thank you, mc <> My final question: So they are going to make me buy ANOTHER card to use for non-windows? Oh, and I loved how the ended their email with 'Thanks for your cooperation' Hmmmmmm Jon Smith To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Mon Nov 1 10:11:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E581E15341 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:11:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA17773 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:11:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199911011811.KAA17773@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sigma Designs speaks on the hollywood plus In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 Nov 1999 13:02:33 EST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 10:11:13 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Send more requests for FreeBSD support!! -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 2 13:39:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0A3154C4 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 13:39:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from cs.strath.ac.uk (scary.dmem.strath.ac.uk [130.159.202.5]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA14881 Tue, 2 Nov 1999 21:39:34 GMT Message-ID: <381F5A3C.306BB560@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 21:40:12 +0000 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: Strathclyde University X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: PixelView Owners - needed to test IR Remote Control code for FXTV Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Myself and Bryan Collins have got IR Remote Control code working for the PixelView TV Tuner cards. If you have one of these cards, can you email me please. I've got a special version of FXTV I'd like you to try. Thanks Roger -- Roger Hardiman Strathclyde Uni Telepresence Research Group, Glasgow, Scotland. http://www.telepresence.strath.ac.uk 0141 548 2897 roger@cs.strath.ac.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 2 16:13:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E38AF1505B for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:13:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-2-139.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.133.139]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA23912; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 19:13:00 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id TAA02824; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 19:12:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 19:12:53 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Jon Smith Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sigma Designs speaks on the hollywood plus Message-ID: <19991102191253.A2685@ipass.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jon Smith: |I sent them the following message: | |<> |> Do you have any plans to make the Hollywood Plus usable under Linux or |> FreeBSD or any other NON-Windows operating systems? |> |> Point of question: I have and use Windows NT almost exclusively to play my |> DVD's. Why am I being forced to pay homage (and $$$$) to Bill Gates to |> use this product? Unlike many things, this technology does require |> security to prevent anyone from copying the DVD's. |> |<> Cool. Hope it materializes, and not with binary-only Linux ELF drivers. Your homage comment reminds me of some Windoze news I read today: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- http://www.theregister.co.uk/991102-000008.html The full estimated retail cost for Windows 2000 Professional will be $319. An upgrade from NT will cost $149, and upgrades from Windows 95 and 98 $219. The Windows 9x upgrade costs on the other hand represent a hefty hike over previous upgrade costs for the 'consumer' type operating systems. A Windows 98 upgrade will currently cost you $90 max, while the full product is $170. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Go Bill!" Drive those mindless masses into the FreeBSD and Linux courts. Randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 2 16:25:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D60F152B2 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:25:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA30402; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:24:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199911030024.QAA30402@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Randall Hopper Cc: Jon Smith , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sigma Designs speaks on the hollywood plus In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 Nov 1999 19:12:53 EST." <19991102191253.A2685@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 16:24:42 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > http://www.theregister.co.uk/991102-000008.html > > The full estimated retail cost for Windows 2000 Professional will be > $319. An upgrade from NT will cost $149, and upgrades from Windows 95 > and 98 $219. > > The Windows 9x upgrade costs on the other hand represent a hefty hike > over previous upgrade costs for the 'consumer' type operating > systems. A Windows 98 upgrade will currently cost you $90 max, while > the full product is $170. Nah, Windows 2000 is too cheap --- he ought to double the price and guess what people would still pay for it . Don't we all wish to own a monopoly 8) -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 2 17:27:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BFA5154E9 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 17:27:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA31058; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 17:27:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199911030127.RAA31058@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Randall Hopper Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Creative seems to open up SB Live In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 31 Oct 1999 22:44:46 EST." <19991031224446.B20788@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 17:27:07 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just downloaded the SB Live driver from http://opensource.creative.com . Don't have time right now to work on it (heavy work load) so have a ball guys 8) Enjoy -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Tue Nov 2 17:30:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D1271549B for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 17:30:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA31094 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 17:29:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199911030129.RAA31094@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Creative seems to open up SB Live In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 02 Nov 1999 17:27:07 PST." <199911030127.RAA31058@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 17:29:58 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Forgot the dxr2 driver is there so we get DVD for free and legal 8) http://opensource.creative.com/ -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Nov 3 9:30: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from jane.lfn.org (nocitycouncil.com [209.16.92.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 321DA156E3 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:29:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from caj@lfn.org) Received: (qmail 18090 invoked by uid 100); 3 Nov 1999 17:29:50 -0000 Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 11:29:50 -0600 (CST) From: Craig Johnston To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: realserver tools, realaudio format Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We've got the Linux G2 Realserver running on 3.2-stable and it seems to work just fine. There is a utility for win95 called 'rmeditor' that allows you to paste together realaudio files -- like the old 'rapaste' but for .rm files. This has, as far as I know, not been ported to Linux or FreeBSD. It won't run under doscmd, also as far as I know. So what are folks out there running Realserver on FreeBSD doing to paste files together? Is there a binary out there that will run under FreeBSD that I missed? If not, does anyone have pointers on info about the format of .rm files? A client wants me to write something to paste these files together if I cannot find another way to do it, and combing the real.com website did not give me the file format. Any ideas? Anyone else interested in the same thing? thanks, Craig Johnston (I assumed this would be the most appropriate list -- lemme know if I should ask on another.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Nov 3 15:43:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from timbuk-e1.cray.com (timbuk-fddi.cray.com [128.162.8.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6659B15119 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:43:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cattelan@thebarn.com) Received: from mailhost.cray.com (mailhost.cray.com [137.38.226.97]) by timbuk-e1.cray.com (8.8.8/CRI-gate-news-1.3) with ESMTP id RAA14725; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 17:43:01 -0600 (CST) Received: from daisy-e185.americas.sgi.com (daisy.cray.com [128.162.185.214]) by mailhost.cray.com (8.9.3/craymail-smart) with ESMTP id RAA15062029; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 17:43:00 -0600 (CST) Received: from thebarn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by daisy-e185.americas.sgi.com (8.8.8/SGI-server-1.3a) with ESMTP id RAA6062988; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 17:42:59 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3820C882.1D2F9709@thebarn.com> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 17:42:59 -0600 From: Russell Cattelan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX64 6.5 IP27) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Amancio Hasty Cc: Randall Hopper , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Creative seems to open up SB Live References: <199911030127.RAA31058@rah.star-gate.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Amancio Hasty wrote: > I just downloaded the SB Live driver from http://opensource.creative.com . > > Don't have time right now to work on it (heavy work load) so have a ball > guys 8) > Hmm interesting... I looked the stuff over briefly; the main bulk of the code is written to be portable, in fact it's the code from the widows NT driver. I suspect it wouldn't be to hard to the os specific over to fbsd. The problem with this of course would be the driver would have to be entirely GPL'ed. Any thoughts on this? worth while in the sort term, complete rewrite in the long term? (that may be hard to do without referencing the GPL'ed code) Ok but lets do it but make in it a load able kernel module so the GPL virus doesn't infect the kernel. Why bother with this card any ways find one the performs better. :-) :-) > > Enjoy > > -- > > Amancio Hasty > hasty@rah.star-gate.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Nov 3 17: 5:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from mvfx.com (mvfx-gw.mvfx.com [207.211.10.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41DCA14D7F for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 17:05:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from henrich@mvfx.com) Received: from crh.mvfx.com (crh.mvfx.com [10.62.2.2]) by mvfx.com (8.9.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA81478; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 17:04:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from henrich@crh.mvfx.com) Received: (from henrich@localhost) by crh.mvfx.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA04975; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 17:04:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from henrich) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 17:04:15 -0800 From: Charles Henrich To: gphoto-devel@gphoto.org Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD & Gphoto (Powershot or other??) Message-ID: <19991103170415.A4962@crh.mvfx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.0-19990715-CURRENT X-PGP-Fingerprint: 1024/F7 FD C7 3A F5 6A 23 BF 76 C4 B8 C9 6E 41 A4 4F Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anoyne gotten gphoto to successfully talk to the canon powershot cameras under FreeBSD? So far no joy.. It looks like it might be a flow control problem?? -Crh Charles Henrich Manex Visual Effects henrich@sigbus.com http://www.sigbus.com/~henrich To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Nov 3 17:24:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.199.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C6C114E96 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 17:24:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tanimura@r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp) Received: from rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W-r-0.1-19990829) with ESMTP id KAA60961; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:22:20 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199911040122.KAA60961@rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp> To: cattelan@thebarn.com Cc: hasty@rah.star-gate.com, aa8vb@ipass.net, freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Seigo Tanimura Subject: Re: Creative seems to open up SB Live From: Seigo Tanimura In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 03 Nov 1999 17:42:59 -0600" References: <3820C882.1D2F9709@thebarn.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 10:22:20 +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 03 Nov 1999 17:42:59 -0600, Russell Cattelan said: cattelan> The problem with this of course would be the driver would have to cattelan> be entirely GPL'ed. cattelan> Any thoughts on this? cattelan> worth while in the sort term, complete rewrite in the long term? cattelan> (that may be hard to do without referencing the GPL'ed code) In the view of our sound driver architechure, rewriting would be an option as well, unless someone figures out a good way to accomodate OSS/ALSA drivers into newpcm & newmidi. Seigo Tanimura To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Nov 3 18:17:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from timbuk-e1.cray.com (timbuk-fddi.cray.com [128.162.8.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B3DA14A1D for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 18:17:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cattelan@thebarn.com) Received: from mailhost.cray.com (mailhost.cray.com [137.38.226.97]) by timbuk-e1.cray.com (8.8.8/CRI-gate-news-1.3) with ESMTP id UAA16497; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 20:17:13 -0600 (CST) Received: from daisy-e185.americas.sgi.com (daisy.cray.com [128.162.185.214]) by mailhost.cray.com (8.9.3/craymail-smart) with ESMTP id UAA15141625; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 20:17:12 -0600 (CST) Received: from thebarn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by daisy-e185.americas.sgi.com (8.8.8/SGI-server-1.3a) with ESMTP id UAA6181800; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 20:17:11 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3820ECA7.2B9C11E1@thebarn.com> Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 20:17:11 -0600 From: Russell Cattelan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX64 6.5 IP27) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randall Hopper Cc: Seigo Tanimura , hasty@rah.star-gate.com, freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Creative seems to open up SB Live References: <3820C882.1D2F9709@thebarn.com> <199911040122.KAA60961@rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp> <19991103205203.A2472@ipass.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Randall Hopper wrote: > Seigo Tanimura: > |On Wed, 03 Nov 1999 17:42:59 -0600, > | Russell Cattelan said: > | > |cattelan> The problem with this of course would be the driver would have to > |cattelan> be entirely GPL'ed. > |cattelan> Any thoughts on this? > |cattelan> worth while in the sort term, complete rewrite in the long term? > |cattelan> (that may be hard to do without referencing the GPL'ed code) > | > | > |In the view of our sound driver architechure, rewriting would be an option > |as well, unless someone figures out a good way to accomodate OSS/ALSA drivers > |into newpcm & newmidi. > > It's possible it could be accommodated as GPL. The Linux AWE drivers I > integrated into the kernel tree are GPL, for example: > > /usr/src/sys/gnu/i386/isa/sound/ > > Main thing is they can't be compiled into the GENERIC kernel. The user > must make the choice to link GPL code into their kernels. If you defer to > the user, then you're safe with GPL AFAIK (though having to even think > about this GPL link-infection nonsense is a pain). > This would be a nice option... at least initially. If it were to be integrated into the newpcm stuff where does it leave it? GPL'ed? not cool. probably not acceptable. Integrate the code but keep GPL code in a separate dir creating dividing line? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Nov 3 20:31:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from kiwi.mail.easynet.net (kiwi.mail.easynet.net [195.40.1.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 431ED14CFB for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 20:31:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ak@freenet.co.uk) Received: from freenet.co.uk (alister.w.easynet.co.uk [212.212.251.86]) by kiwi.mail.easynet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92671DAF44; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 04:28:17 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <38210B69.E8782D9F@freenet.co.uk> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 04:28:25 +0000 From: Alex X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Russell Cattelan Cc: Randall Hopper , Seigo Tanimura , hasty@rah.star-gate.com, freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Creative seems to open up SB Live References: <3820C882.1D2F9709@thebarn.com> <199911040122.KAA60961@rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp> <19991103205203.A2472@ipass.net> <3820ECA7.2B9C11E1@thebarn.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Russell Cattelan wrote: > > Randall Hopper wrote: > > > Seigo Tanimura: > > |On Wed, 03 Nov 1999 17:42:59 -0600, > > | Russell Cattelan said: > > | > > |cattelan> The problem with this of course would be the driver would have to > > |cattelan> be entirely GPL'ed. > > |cattelan> Any thoughts on this? > > |cattelan> worth while in the sort term, complete rewrite in the long term? > > |cattelan> (that may be hard to do without referencing the GPL'ed code) > > | > > | > > |In the view of our sound driver architechure, rewriting would be an option > > |as well, unless someone figures out a good way to accomodate OSS/ALSA drivers > > |into newpcm & newmidi. > > > > It's possible it could be accommodated as GPL. The Linux AWE drivers I > > integrated into the kernel tree are GPL, for example: > > > > /usr/src/sys/gnu/i386/isa/sound/ > > > > Main thing is they can't be compiled into the GENERIC kernel. The user > > must make the choice to link GPL code into their kernels. If you defer to > > the user, then you're safe with GPL AFAIK (though having to even think > > about this GPL link-infection nonsense is a pain). > > > > This would be a nice option... at least initially. > If it were to be integrated into the newpcm stuff where > does it leave it? GPL'ed? not cool. probably not acceptable. > Integrate the code but keep GPL code in a separate dir creating dividing line? No! No GPLd crap in the kernel. The newpcm architecture is nice and clean and it's best to keep it that way. The Linux driver can be used as a source of information on how to initialise and program the card, but no actual code should be integrated into the tree (not verbatim, anyway). There doesn't seem to be anything special or particularly complex about SBLive that it can't be ported to FreeBSD. Speaking of newmidi (hi Seigo!) - how soon are we going to see it in the tree? I'm surprised how NetBSD is ahead of us in that respect - they support a hell of a lot more multimedia hardware than we do. I guess everyone has their preferences. Alex P.S. BTW, Aureal have decided to follow suit and are also going to release an open-source Linux driver - see http://www.ga-source.com/all/news/bits/10+01+1999/15:44:17.shtml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Nov 3 21:26:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from lcremeans.erols.com (lcremeans.erols.com [216.164.87.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B685E14E59 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 21:26:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee@lcremeans.erols.com) Received: (from lee@localhost) by lcremeans.erols.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA60916 for multimedia@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 00:26:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lee) Message-ID: <19991104002612.A60903@erols.com> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 00:26:12 -0500 From: Lee Cremeans To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Brahms 0.97.1, FreeBSD, and RTC diddling Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE Organization: My room? Are you crazy? :) Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [I'm not entirely sure where to send this, so I'm posting it to -multimedia] I downloaded Brahms (which incidentally is a Qt-based MIDI composer program in the vein of Cubase), and I tried to compile it...it tripped up on a Linux-specific header (linux/mc146818rtc.h). I read the code that calls it...and apparently it's using Linux's /dev/rtc to reprogram the RTC for an 8192 Hz interrupt rate. I don't know of any way to do this in FreeBSD, or if it's even a good idea...can someone give me a hand? -lee -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on WTnet) | | lcremeans@erols.com | http://wakky.dyndns.org/~lee | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Nov 3 21:49:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.199.247]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01ED014D56 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 21:49:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tanimura@r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp) Received: from rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W-r-0.1-19990829) with ESMTP id OAA72896; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 14:48:48 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199911040548.OAA72896@rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp> To: ak@freenet.co.uk Cc: cattelan@thebarn.com, aa8vb@ipass.net, tanimura@r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp, hasty@rah.star-gate.com, freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Creative seems to open up SB Live From: Seigo Tanimura In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 04 Nov 1999 04:28:25 +0000" References: <38210B69.E8782D9F@freenet.co.uk> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.70 on Emacs 19.34.1 / Mule 2.3 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 14:48:48 +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 04 Nov 1999 04:28:25 +0000, Alex said: ak> Speaking of newmidi (hi Seigo!) - how soon are we going to see it in the ak> tree? I'm surprised how NetBSD is ahead of us in that respect - they ak> support a hell of a lot more multimedia hardware than we do. I guess ak> everyone has their preferences. Sorry for my snail work. The bridge drivers are under the final review now. They will attach both pcm and midi part of a card to a single driver. After that newmidi is hopefully to be merged, probably by the end of this year(except for MPU401...). Thanks for being patient! The coming commit changes the driver configuration, so please watch out for the HEADS UP. GUS and CS461x(on AOpen AW320 and other cheap PCI cards) will be newly supported. Seigo Tanimura To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Nov 3 22:58:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from lips.lcse.umn.edu (lips.lcse.umn.edu [128.101.182.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6BA014E4F for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 22:58:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cattelan@thebarn.com) Received: from thebarn.com (lupo [128.101.182.203]) by lips.lcse.umn.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA54722; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 00:58:00 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <38212E78.CFF011DD@thebarn.com> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 00:58:00 -0600 From: Russell Cattelan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alex Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Creative seems to open up SB Live References: <3820C882.1D2F9709@thebarn.com> <199911040122.KAA60961@rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp> <19991103205203.A2472@ipass.net> <3820ECA7.2B9C11E1@thebarn.com> <38210B69.E8782D9F@freenet.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alex wrote: > Russell Cattelan wrote: > > > > Randall Hopper wrote: > > > > > Seigo Tanimura: > > > |On Wed, 03 Nov 1999 17:42:59 -0600, > > > | Russell Cattelan said: > > > | > > > |cattelan> The problem with this of course would be the driver would have to > > > |cattelan> be entirely GPL'ed. > > > |cattelan> Any thoughts on this? > > > |cattelan> worth while in the sort term, complete rewrite in the long term? > > > |cattelan> (that may be hard to do without referencing the GPL'ed code) > > > | > > > | > > > |In the view of our sound driver architechure, rewriting would be an option > > > |as well, unless someone figures out a good way to accomodate OSS/ALSA drivers > > > |into newpcm & newmidi. > > > > > > It's possible it could be accommodated as GPL. The Linux AWE drivers I > > > integrated into the kernel tree are GPL, for example: > > > > > > /usr/src/sys/gnu/i386/isa/sound/ > > > > > > Main thing is they can't be compiled into the GENERIC kernel. The user > > > must make the choice to link GPL code into their kernels. If you defer to > > > the user, then you're safe with GPL AFAIK (though having to even think > > > about this GPL link-infection nonsense is a pain). > > > > > > > This would be a nice option... at least initially. > > If it were to be integrated into the newpcm stuff where > > does it leave it? GPL'ed? not cool. probably not acceptable. > > Integrate the code but keep GPL code in a separate dir creating dividing line? > > No! No GPLd crap in the kernel. Please don't do that! I've seen to many technical discussions digress into the "Men are from Mars Women are from Venus" type discussions. I'm not a bit fan of the GPL, but people use it for that same reason they use windows; it's there and everybody else uses it why shouldn't I. > The newpcm architecture is nice and > clean and it's best to keep it that way. The Linux driver can be used > as a source of information on how to initialise and program the card, > but no actual code should be integrated into the tree (not verbatim, > anyway). There doesn't seem to be anything special or particularly > complex about SBLive that it can't be ported to FreeBSD. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Nov 3 23:39:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.dk (freebsd.dk [212.242.42.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EBC014A2A for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 23:39:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sos@freebsd.dk) Received: (from sos@localhost) by freebsd.dk (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA14742; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:38:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from sos) From: Soren Schmidt Message-Id: <199911040738.IAA14742@freebsd.dk> Subject: Re: Creative seems to open up SB Live In-Reply-To: <38212E78.CFF011DD@thebarn.com> from Russell Cattelan at "Nov 4, 1999 00:58:00 am" To: cattelan@thebarn.com (Russell Cattelan) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 08:38:34 +0100 (CET) Cc: ak@freenet.co.uk (Alex), freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It seems Russell Cattelan wrote: > > > > > > This would be a nice option... at least initially. > > > If it were to be integrated into the newpcm stuff where > > > does it leave it? GPL'ed? not cool. probably not acceptable. > > > Integrate the code but keep GPL code in a separate dir creating dividing line? > > > > No! No GPLd crap in the kernel. > > Please don't do that! > I've seen to many technical discussions digress into the "Men are from > Mars Women are from Venus" type discussions. > > I'm not a bit fan of the GPL, but people use it for that same reason > they use windows; it's there and everybody else uses it why shouldn't I. Hmm, lets clear things up a bit here, before it gets too clouded in emotions/religion. We try to keep GPL'd stuff out of the kernel, and it is very important to us that it stays that way. However there is a few exeptions to that, and that is why there is sys/gnu to hold those things. It is important though to keep in mind that the system MUST be buildable if the sys/gnu directory is removed. That means that the system can in no way be dependend on any GPL'd code, nor can it be included in the standard kernels. So for above reasons it would be a great idea to use the GPL'd code as a spec sheet, and do the implementation for FreeBSD under our licence, and using our framework. That will result in a driver that is seemlessly integrated into the system, and will enable all our users to use it in all circumstances. Using the GPL'd version and hammering it into shape to make it fit into our system will give neither of the above advantages. Look at the old VoxWare driver for a fine example of why this is a really bad idea. So, please use your collective time to work on making things happen the right way, instead of wasting it on discussing these things over and over. -Soren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Wed Nov 3 23:59:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 016D514CF8 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 23:59:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA43727 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 23:58:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199911040758.XAA43727@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Creative seems to open up SB Live In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Nov 1999 08:38:34 +0100." <199911040738.IAA14742@freebsd.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 23:58:44 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Using the GPL'd version and hammering it into shape to make it fit > into our system will give neither of the above advantages. Look at > the old VoxWare driver for a fine example of why this is a really > bad idea. > The "old" voxware driver is covered by the BSD License. The reason why is in bad shape is because is too complex for most people to work on ; whether that be to improve it or to stream line it. At any rate, I hate this discussion of GPL vs BSD . If we are going to chat lets chat about the SB Live 8) -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 4 13:28: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from kiew.egd.igd.fhg.de (kiew.egd.igd.fhg.de [192.102.170.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25E94152F6 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:27:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from runge@rostock.zgdv.de) Received: from rostock.zgdv.de (ppp01.egd.igd.fhg.de [153.96.43.211]) by kiew.egd.igd.fhg.de (Netscape Messaging Server 3.6) with ESMTP id AAA5A76 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:25:38 +0100 Message-ID: <3821F9D1.42CE7D80@rostock.zgdv.de> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 22:25:37 +0100 From: Thomas Runge X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Webcam Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As there were some questions for a webcam application some days before I scanned, what's available for that at all. I found the things on Rogers page only. Here is the status I found: - grab.c Works quite nice, but saves only as ppm and is slow in doing it. - videocapture.c Writes jpeg, but doesn't work for me. It does write jpeg but I couldn't find a useful information in it ;) - qcam-webcam.c Whats this?!? Is quickcam supported by /dev/bktr?!? No. So I just took grab.c, videocapture.c, libjpeg.doc, /sys/dev/bktr/* and gcc and made one, that *does* write jpeg and that *does* work. Here it is: http://www.rostock.zgdv.de/~runge/bktr2jpeg.c How to use it? Start fxtv, switch to your favourit channel or to your video source or whatever. Quit. Start bktr2jpeg, the commandline options are available via bktr2jpeg -h Whats still todo? Initialize the driver and set it to the wanted channel to get rid of using fxtv the first time. Add some commandline options to set brightness, hue etc. But I don't think, these things are that important. If someone wants it, it's easy to implement by himself... At least, we have a starting point to build a bigger app ;) Have fun with it. -- Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 4 15:28:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925571504F for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 15:28:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-4-133.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.134.133]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA16997; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:27:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id SAA03579; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:26:49 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:26:49 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Alex , Amancio Hasty Cc: Russell Cattelan , Seigo Tanimura , freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Creative seems to open up SB Live Message-ID: <19991104182649.A2726@ipass.net> References: <199911040222.LAA70346@rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp> <199911040644.WAA43215@rah.star-gate.com> <3820C882.1D2F9709@thebarn.com> <199911040122.KAA60961@rina.r.dl.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp> <19991103205203.A2472@ipass.net> <3820ECA7.2B9C11E1@thebarn.com> <38210B69.E8782D9F@freenet.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <38210B69.E8782D9F@freenet.co.uk> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alex: |Russell Cattelan wrote: |> Randall Hopper wrote: |> > It's possible it could be accommodated as GPL. The Linux AWE drivers I |> > integrated into the kernel tree are GPL, for example: |> > /usr/src/sys/gnu/i386/isa/sound/ |> |> This would be a nice option... at least initially. | |No! No GPLd crap in the kernel. Hey! Take it down a notch Amancio. That is, unless you're volunteering to do the work. You should try the KDE group's philosophy: When making a suggestion, change 'we should...' to 'I will...' Yeah, I know. You're busy right now. So am I. However, I wouldn't presume to dictate how others spend their free time hacking driver code. Think "suggestion" and everyone will be alot more receptive (and willing to help). |There doesn't seem to be anything special or particularly complex about |SBLive that it can't be ported to FreeBSD. ... |Now we need someone to plug the new driver to one of the existing sound |driver models . | |I respectfully suggest that one of the young hackers to buckle down and |get to work be that just copying the existing SB Live or getting the docs |for the chipsets and use the GPL as a model. AFAIK "port" is not an option, "re-engineer" is (from your no-GPL perspective at least). We want to keep this kosher. With this headache in mind, that's why I suggested the GPL branch. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 4 16:14:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B02AC15534 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:14:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA49399; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:12:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199911050012.QAA49399@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Randall Hopper Cc: Alex , Russell Cattelan , Seigo Tanimura , freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Creative seems to open up SB Live In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Nov 1999 18:26:49 EST." <19991104182649.A2726@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 16:12:04 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Alex: > |Russell Cattelan wrote: > |> Randall Hopper wrote: > |> > It's possible it could be accommodated as GPL. The Linux AWE drivers I > |> > integrated into the kernel tree are GPL, for example: > |> > /usr/src/sys/gnu/i386/isa/sound/ > |> > |> This would be a nice option... at least initially. > | > |No! No GPLd crap in the kernel. > > Hey! Take it down a notch Amancio. That is, unless you're volunteering to > do the work. You should try the KDE group's philosophy: > > When making a suggestion, change 'we should...' to 'I will...' > > Yeah, I know. You're busy right now. So am I. However, I wouldn't > presume to dictate how others spend their free time hacking driver code. > Think "suggestion" and everyone will be alot more receptive (and willing to > help). > > |There doesn't seem to be anything special or particularly complex about > |SBLive that it can't be ported to FreeBSD. > ... > |Now we need someone to plug the new driver to one of the existing sound > |driver models . > | > |I respectfully suggest that one of the young hackers to buckle down and > |get to work be that just copying the existing SB Live or getting the docs > |for the chipsets and use the GPL as a model. > > AFAIK "port" is not an option, "re-engineer" is (from your no-GPL > perspective at least). We want to keep this kosher. > > With this headache in mind, that's why I suggested the GPL branch. > I think I should take the "notch up " and not "down" and Iyour suggestion is most welcome. If you are hacking great and I am sure that everyone in the mailing list is most appreciative . If you are creating poetry on the merits of GPL vs BSD , then I "suggest" to code for the primary reason we are having this debate is because "that someone" around here didn't buckle down and wrote the driver. The reason for not coding are plenty yet there are users enjoying whatever multimedia offering we have , there are companies which are making billions of dollars off FreeBSD so "somewhere" there is money and "somewhere" there are young energetic hackers able to sit down down hack . Last but not least this group was mostly founded by me to code and have fun with the code . It was never meant to be a philoshopy forum. Relax , code and have fun!! -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 4 16:30:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from astralblue.com (adsl-209-76-108-39.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [209.76.108.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C52C414DC0 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:30:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ab@astralblue.com) Received: from localhost (ab@localhost) by astralblue.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA05606 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:30:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ab@astralblue.com) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:30:05 -0800 (PST) From: "Eugene M. Kim" To: FreeBSD Multimedia Discussion List Subject: Any info on Matrox G200/TV (aka `Marvel')? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Yesterday I finally managed to wipe the windo[wg]s crap out of my box and install FreeBSD -current. Most things are seamlessly working, I'm so happy and fine, except that I can't watch TV using the Matrox Marvel G200/TV card anymore. Actually, it's been a while since I registered at Matrox as a developer and got a hold of their chipset/board programming infos. But the information for TV portion was to be found nowhere (they only had a so-called `DirectX SDK' for TV). Could anyone shed a light where to find the necessary programming information for Matrox G200/TV? Thank you in advance, Eugene -- Eugene M. Kim "Is your music unpopular? Make it popular; make music which people like, or make people who like your music." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 4 16:39:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5CA814D2B for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:39:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA49534 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:38:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199911050038.QAA49534@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: FreeBSD Multimedia Discussion List Subject: Re: Any info on Matrox G200/TV (aka `Marvel')? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Nov 1999 16:30:05 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 16:38:01 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Eugene, Try to find out what chipset are they using for capturing the TV signal. Usually and this is not very smart what I do is to eliminate the most obvious chipset candidates. Cheers -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 4 17:41:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68E414C9C for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:41:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-4-133.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.134.133]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA13591; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 20:41:16 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id UAA27348; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 20:40:58 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 20:40:58 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: multimedia@freebsd.org Cc: Roger Hardiman , Bryan Collins Subject: Fxtv 1.02 Message-ID: <19991104204058.A27081@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This release supports the PixelView Remote Control, coded up by Roger Hardiman and Bryan Collins. Thanks guys! As usual, the port and package are here: URL: http://www.ipass.net/~dbhopper/aa8vb/fxtv/ ChangeLog: http://www.ipass.net/~dbhopper/aa8vb/fxtv/ChangeLog Have fun! Send any suggestions or patches this direction. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 4 19:33:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916EE157DA; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:33:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-4-133.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.134.133]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA05405; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:33:14 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id WAA30229; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:32:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:32:56 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: Eric Kozowski Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, multimedia@freebsd.org, Roger Hardiman Subject: Re: bt848 w/ 3.3 Message-ID: <19991104223256.A29684@ipass.net> References: <19991101164348.G9313@schooner.svjava.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <19991101164348.G9313@schooner.svjava.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Eric Kozowski: | |ok, now that i got the sound blaster working, i'm having trouble w/ a |bt848 based video capture card from video logic. | |the problem is that every time i put the bt848 card in (it's pci) i get |no video signal on my agp video card. take the bt848 back out and i get |video signal from the agp video card to my monitor again. | |kinda tough to troubleshoot w/ no video out. i searched the freebsd |archives and web site w/ no luck. anyone have any ideas? Strange. Don't know. You might try: - Check that you have all the IRQs and DMAs for your ISA cards allocated to ISA in your BIOS - Change which PCI slot the bt848 is in - Pull your other cards except for these two - For a test, do you have another video card to try with the bt848? - Do you have another machine connected to this one (via ethernet/slip/plip/etc.)? If so, build a kernel with bt848 support, boot into FreeBSD with the bt848, and check your /var/run/dmesg.boot for how its being detected - If not, you might try: build a kernel with bt848 support, install, make sure it works with your video card, reboot, power-off, snap the bt848 in, power on, boot into FreeBSD, let it get to the prompt, reboot, power-off, yank the bt848, power-on, and see what your /var/run/messages file has to say about the card and the driver's detection of it. These are _complete_ shots in the dark. In case you need some ideas. Hopefully though someone else will chime in and solve all your problems. ;-) FWIW, other folks on the multimedia list have had PCI bt848s working fine with AGP video cards for a year or so, so it's likely that this is related to your specific hardware or configuration. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 4 19:42:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3BE714DE6; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:42:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA51090; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:41:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199911050341.TAA51090@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Randall Hopper Cc: Eric Kozowski , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, Roger Hardiman Subject: Re: bt848 w/ 3.3 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Nov 1999 22:32:56 EST." <19991104223256.A29684@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 19:41:25 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > FWIW, other folks on the multimedia list have had PCI bt848s working fine > with AGP video cards for a year or so, so it's likely that this is related > to your specific hardware or configuration. I have two boxes over here with agp video cards and I don't have a problem with my bt848 cards -- I mean video capture from the bt848 cards works. I do have a problem with the Voodoo 3 on XFree86 4.0 not implementing DGA properly so fxtv's DGA mode does not work. Enjoy -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 4 20: 5:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from tandem.milestonerdl.com (tandem.milestonerdl.com [204.107.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74AA415719; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 20:05:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marc@tandem.milestonerdl.com) Received: from localhost (marc@localhost) by tandem.milestonerdl.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA88734; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:10:10 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 23:10:10 -0600 (CST) From: marc rassbach To: Amancio Hasty Cc: Randall Hopper , Eric Kozowski , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, Roger Hardiman Subject: Re: bt848 w/ 3.3 In-Reply-To: <199911050341.TAA51090@rah.star-gate.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Also, keep in mind that the BT series of chipset seem to have a problem where the odd and even frame get confused. (The chipset puts the odd where the even should be and visa versa.) The Matrox Meteor doesn't have this problem. And, keep in mind Matrox is making ONE LAST production run of the Meteor. So if you want one, get it now. On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Amancio Hasty wrote: > > > > FWIW, other folks on the multimedia list have had PCI bt848s working fine > > with AGP video cards for a year or so, so it's likely that this is related > > to your specific hardware or configuration. > > I have two boxes over here with agp video cards and I don't have a > problem with my bt848 cards -- I mean video capture from the bt848 > cards works. I do have a problem with the Voodoo 3 on XFree86 4.0 > not implementing DGA properly so fxtv's DGA mode does not work. > > Enjoy > > -- > > Amancio Hasty > hasty@rah.star-gate.com > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 4 20:23:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from rah.star-gate.com (216-200-29-190.snj0.flashcom.net [216.200.29.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D0111567E; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 20:23:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Received: from rah.star-gate.com (localhost.star-gate.com [127.0.0.1]) by rah.star-gate.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA51410; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 20:22:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hasty@rah.star-gate.com) Message-Id: <199911050422.UAA51410@rah.star-gate.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: marc rassbach Cc: Randall Hopper , Eric Kozowski , freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, Roger Hardiman Subject: Re: bt848 w/ 3.3 In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Nov 1999 23:10:10 CST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 20:22:40 -0800 From: Amancio Hasty Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org BTW: I wrote the original Bt848 driver for FreeBSD and I used to own several Matrox Meteor cards 8) > Also, keep in mind that the BT series of chipset seem to have a problem > where the odd and even frame get confused. (The chipset puts the odd > where the even should be and visa versa.) This is a bug in the driver and not on the chipset unless of course you can prove me wrong 8) -- Amancio Hasty hasty@rah.star-gate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 4 22: 8:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from friley-160-236.res.iastate.edu (friley-160-236.res.iastate.edu [129.186.160.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C19FF14DA4 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:08:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cc@137.org) Received: from ameslab.gov (friley-160-235.res.iastate.edu [129.186.160.235]) by friley-160-236.res.iastate.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27F3E119; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 00:06:01 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <382273C9.76897286@ameslab.gov> Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 00:06:01 -0600 From: Chris Csanady X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en, ru, ja, ko MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Eugene M. Kim" Cc: FreeBSD Multimedia Discussion List Subject: Re: Any info on Matrox G200/TV (aka `Marvel')? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Eugene M. Kim" wrote: > > Hello, > > Yesterday I finally managed to wipe the windo[wg]s crap out of my box > and install FreeBSD -current. Most things are seamlessly working, I'm > so happy and fine, except that I can't watch TV using the Matrox Marvel > G200/TV card anymore. > > Actually, it's been a while since I registered at Matrox as a developer > and got a hold of their chipset/board programming infos. But the > information for TV portion was to be found nowhere (they only had a > so-called `DirectX SDK' for TV). > > Could anyone shed a light where to find the necessary programming > information for Matrox G200/TV? There is a group working on this under Linux. They have a partially working driver, as well as links to most of the relevant documentation. http://www.cs.brandeis.edu/~eddie/mga4linux/ Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Thu Nov 4 22:16: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from friley-160-236.res.iastate.edu (friley-160-236.res.iastate.edu [129.186.160.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8F09155FB for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:15:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cc@137.org) Received: from ameslab.gov (friley-160-235.res.iastate.edu [129.186.160.235]) by friley-160-236.res.iastate.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5658A119; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 00:15:46 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <38227611.A997D47D@ameslab.gov> Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 00:15:45 -0600 From: Chris Csanady X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en, ru, ja, ko MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Amancio Hasty Cc: FreeBSD Multimedia Discussion List Subject: Re: Any info on Matrox G200/TV (aka `Marvel')? References: <199911050038.QAA49534@rah.star-gate.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-2022-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Amancio Hasty wrote: > > Hi Eugene, > > Try to find out what chipset are they using for capturing the TV > signal. Usually and this is not very smart what I do is to eliminate > the most obvious chipset candidates. The video decoder is a Samsung KS0127, docs at http://www.usa.samsungsemi.com/products/prodspec/videodecoder/KS0127/ks0127ov.htm Hopefully it should be possible to get it to work, although I don't know how much glue is necessary. I was thinking about getting a Marvel G400, but I still don't have AGP on my board. :( Chris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Nov 5 4:36: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D3A314D98 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 04:35:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA14433 Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:35:48 GMT Message-ID: <3822CF23.41C6@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 12:35:47 +0000 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: TV Viewers - New FXTV and new Alevt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, FXTV 1.02 and Alevt 1.51 have just been released for those of you with Bt848/Bt878 TV cards. FXTV - The TV viewing program, now features support for both the Hauppauge and the PixelView Infra-Red remote control handsets. I hope we can add AVerMedia next AleVT - The Teletext (videotext) is a minor update with a fix in the alevt-date utility. The ports files have been updated. You can expect to see them mirrored on the CVS and FTP sites in the next 24 hours. Tips: If you want teletext support, you must start alevt BEFORE you start FXTV. Cheers Roger -- Roger Hardiman | Telepresence Research Group roger@cs.strath.ac.uk | DMEM, University of Strathclyde tel: 0141 548 2897 | Glasgow, Scotland, G1 1XJ, UK fax: 0141 552 0557 | http://www.telepresence.strath.ac.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Nov 5 4:40:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.196.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D036614D98; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 04:40:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roger@cs.strath.ac.uk) Received: from muir-10 (roger@muir-10.cs.strath.ac.uk [130.159.148.10]) by fleming.cs.strath.ac.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id MAA14543 Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:38:12 GMT Message-ID: <3822CFB4.167E@cs.strath.ac.uk> Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 12:38:12 +0000 From: Roger Hardiman Organization: University of Strathclyde X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (X11; I; OSF1 V4.0 alpha) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Randall Hopper Cc: Eric Kozowski , freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bt848 w/ 3.3 References: <19991101164348.G9313@schooner.svjava.com> <19991104223256.A29684@ipass.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Eric, > every time i put the bt848 card in (it's pci) i get > no video signal on my agp video card. Does the PC appear to boot, (does the hard drive light come on) or is the machine dead. It could be a) your power supply cannot supply enough power for the extra pci card. b) a broken bt848 card. Can you check it in another machine? Roger -- Roger Hardiman | Telepresence Research Group roger@cs.strath.ac.uk | DMEM, University of Strathclyde tel: 0141 548 2897 | Glasgow, Scotland, G1 1XJ, UK fax: 0141 552 0557 | http://www.telepresence.strath.ac.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Nov 5 8:49:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat198.58.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.198.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C7E21522B for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 08:49:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA03686; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:48:56 -0400 (AST) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:48:55 -0400 (AST) From: The Hermit Hacker To: Randall Hopper Cc: Alex , Amancio Hasty , Russell Cattelan , Seigo Tanimura , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Creative seems to open up SB Live In-Reply-To: <19991104182649.A2726@ipass.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Randall Hopper wrote: > AFAIK "port" is not an option, "re-engineer" is (from your no-GPL > perspective at least). We want to keep this kosher. Odd question here, but, with the modules system we currently have, *shouldn't* it be relatively easy to create a "port" (ie. in /usr/ports/??) that installs the module, even if it is GPL'd? Why do (if they do?) a new modules seem to imply adding to the base source tree, vs creating some sort of /usr/ports/modules system? Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy Systems Administrator @ hub.org primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Nov 5 9:32:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from timbuk-e1.cray.com (timbuk-fddi.cray.com [128.162.8.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E729314C8F for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:32:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cattelan@thebarn.com) Received: from mailhost.cray.com (mailhost.cray.com [137.38.226.97]) by timbuk-e1.cray.com (8.8.8/CRI-gate-news-1.3) with ESMTP id LAA23790; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 11:30:44 -0600 (CST) Received: from daisy-e185.americas.sgi.com (daisy.cray.com [128.162.185.214]) by mailhost.cray.com (8.9.3/craymail-smart) with ESMTP id LAA15457463; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 11:30:40 -0600 (CST) Received: from thebarn.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by daisy-e185.americas.sgi.com (8.8.8/SGI-server-1.3a) with ESMTP id LAA79925; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 11:30:40 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3823143F.98DCEC2D@thebarn.com> Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 11:30:40 -0600 From: Russell Cattelan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX64 6.5 IP27) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: Randall Hopper , Alex , Amancio Hasty , Seigo Tanimura , freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Creative seems to open up SB Live References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The Hermit Hacker wrote: > On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Randall Hopper wrote: > > > AFAIK "port" is not an option, "re-engineer" is (from your no-GPL > > perspective at least). We want to keep this kosher. > > Odd question here, but, with the modules system we currently have, > *shouldn't* it be relatively easy to create a "port" (ie. in > /usr/ports/??) that installs the module, even if it is GPL'd? Why do (if > they do?) a new modules seem to imply adding to the base source tree, vs > creating some sort of /usr/ports/modules system? I like that idea. Does anybody know how to create a loadable sound driver? I know the OSS drivers do it, so it is possible. > > > > Marc G. Fournier ICQ#7615664 IRC Nick: Scrappy > Systems Administrator @ hub.org > primary: scrappy@hub.org secondary: scrappy@{freebsd|postgresql}.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Nov 5 15:20:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3915E14BF8; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:19:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-205.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.205]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA21950; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 18:18:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id SAA01569; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 18:18:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 18:18:40 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: marc rassbach , Amancio Hasty Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, Roger Hardiman Subject: Re: bt848 w/ 3.3 Message-ID: <19991105181840.A1124@ipass.net> References: <199911050422.UAA51410@rah.star-gate.com> <199911050341.TAA51090@rah.star-gate.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Amancio Hasty: |marc rassbach: |> Also, keep in mind that the BT series of chipset seem to have a problem |> where the odd and even frame get confused. (The chipset puts the odd |> where the even should be and visa versa.) | |This is a bug in the driver and not on the chipset unless of course |you can prove me wrong 8) Are we sure that this is really a bug? I've heard ruminations before but nothing more. We should keep in mind that NTSC does not raster scan two interlaced fields of a "freeze frame" 30 times per second. Time goes on as the raster scans the first field, and then retraces to scan the second. The time difference between fields of course equals 1/60th of a second. TV has long persistence phosphors, so even during fast motion sequences, the differences in the fields isn't as apparent as it is on a computer monitor where both the phosphor persistence is shorter and the spatial resolution is a good bit higher. I think this may account for the difference we see. To demonstrate, zoom the TV (right click in fxtv), and freeze frame on a scene while a pure-color computer overlay sweeps across the display. There is significant difference between the fields of course. But (because they are pure colors), its very easy to see that switching the fields is not going to make any difference. The fields are just very different What would be interesting is to know whether the same is visible in the MS Windows apps. If not, wonder if the bt848 has some temporal filtering/interpolation feature which they have turned on and we don't. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Fri Nov 5 15:41:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF29B14F0A for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:40:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-4-64.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.134.64]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA25801; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 18:40:48 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id SAA02261; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 18:40:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 18:40:31 -0500 From: Randall Hopper To: marc rassbach Cc: multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bt848 w/ 3.3 Message-ID: <19991105184031.C2053@ipass.net> References: <19991105181840.A1124@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org marc rassbach: |The word is: | |Before OCt 11th, no problems. Oct 11th, the odd/even frames are switched |about. Chipset suspected to be flawed. Nov 3rd..the authors have told |me in e-mail that its a driver problem, not a chipset problem. | |But, there *IS* a problem. To see it place a slanting line on the screen |and capture it. Over and over. Eventually, it will be spotted. Oh, ok. Glad you've nailed down the cause. I haven't upgraded my driver in a while (mine's dated 7/2/99), so if the Bt848 RISC program has broken since, I wouldn't know. Randall To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Nov 6 0:59:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C755C14D19 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 00:59:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id BAA00599 for multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 01:59:24 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ken) Message-Id: <199911060859.BAA00599@panzer.kdm.org> Subject: newpcm problems with GUS PnP To: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 01:59:24 -0700 (MST) From: "Kenneth D. Merry" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've got a GUS PnP Pro, and I'm having a few problems with it and newpcm. I'm running -current from Friday, October 29th. First, the dmesg info on the card: pcm1: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x320-0x327,0x32c-0x32f irq 9,11 drq 0,1 on isa0 unknown0: at port 0x170-0x177,0x376-0x377 irq 15 drq 3 on isa0 unknown1: at port 0x201 on isa0 unknown2: at port 0x388-0x389 irq 5 on isa0 unknown3: at irq 10 on isa0 Here's the old dmesg info from the card, for what it's worth: Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: GRV0001 [0x0100561e] Serial 0x00000001 Comp ID: PNP0600 [0x0006d041] mss_attach 1 at 0x328 irq 11 dma 6:5 flags 0x15 pcm1 (GusPnP sn 0x00000001) at 0x328-0x32f irq 11 drq 6 flags 0x15 on isa In my kernel config file, I have: controller pnp0 device pcm0 at isa? My BIOS is configured for a non-plug-and-play OS. (i.e. it configures PnP cards) And now, for the problems: I use amp-0.7.6 and mpg123-0.59q (from the ports tree) and pcmplay, which comes with tosha, to play audio. The first two play mp3 files, and the last one plays straight pcm files. - pcmplay either plays static, or plays the audio file at what appears to be half speed. I tried recompiling it, but that didn't help. pcmplay is a very simple program, and appears to be properly setting the various sound ioctls. I'm not familiar with the sound code, so I don't know for sure of course. In any case, it hasn't functioned properly at all since upgrading from -current as of ~June 26th to current as of last week. - mpg123 and amp work most of the time. Sometimes, they play nothing but static. Sometimes they play the file, but there is also a hiss along with the audio. One time, after control-C'ing out of mpg123, it sounded like the last part of the mp3 file kept playing over and over and over again on the card. I'm not sure if these kernel messages correspond to that, but they might: mss_intr: unexpected irq with reason 10 mss_intr: unexpected irq with reason 10 mss_intr: unexpected irq with reason 10 mss_intr: unexpected irq with reason 10 mss_intr: unexpected irq with reason 10 mss_intr: unexpected irq with reason 10 mss_intr: unexpected irq with reason 10 mss_intr: unexpected irq with reason 10 mss_intr: unexpected irq with reason 10 Anyway, none of this happened under the old PCM code, or the old voxware code before that. (Well, not after Amancio fixed it.) Anyone have any ideas on what's going on? Thanks, Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Nov 6 1:52:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from midget.dons.net.au (daniel.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.137.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7CD614CAE for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 01:52:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from darius@dons.net.au) Received: from guppy.dons.net.au (guppy.dons.net.au [203.31.81.9]) by midget.dons.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA33105; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 20:22:26 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from darius@dons.net.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3823143F.98DCEC2D@thebarn.com> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 20:21:39 +1030 (CST) From: "Daniel J. O'Connor" To: Russell Cattelan Subject: Re: Creative seems to open up SB Live Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG, Seigo Tanimura , Amancio Hasty , Alex , Randall Hopper , The Hermit Hacker Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 05-Nov-99 Russell Cattelan wrote: > I like that idea. > Does anybody know how to create a loadable sound driver? > I know the OSS drivers do it, so it is possible. It would be possible but given the kernel APIs are a moving target I suspect you'll spend a lot of time making sure it works.. The first order of the day would be changing the pcm driver so it can cope with dynamic registration of devices.. No idea how hard it would be though :) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Nov 6 2: 2:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from www.matti.ee (solaris.matti.ee [194.126.98.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D6F214CAE for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 02:02:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vallo@matti.ee) Received: from myhakas.matti.ee (myhakas.matti.ee [194.126.114.87]) by www.matti.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA06848; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 12:02:41 +0200 (EET) Received: by myhakas.matti.ee (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DE44E106; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 12:02:45 +0200 (EET) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 12:02:45 +0200 From: Vallo Kallaste To: "Kenneth D. Merry" Cc: multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: newpcm problems with GUS PnP Message-ID: <19991106120245.A5682@myhakas.matti.ee> Reply-To: vallo@matti.ee References: <199911060859.BAA00599@panzer.kdm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <199911060859.BAA00599@panzer.kdm.org>; from Kenneth D. Merry on Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 01:59:24AM -0700 Organization: =?iso-8859-1?Q?AS_Matti_B=FCrootehnika?= Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 01:59:24AM -0700, "Kenneth D. Merry" wrote: > I've got a GUS PnP Pro, and I'm having a few problems with it and newpcm. > I'm running -current from Friday, October 29th. First, the dmesg info on > the card: > > pcm1: at port 0x220-0x22f,0x320-0x327,0x32c-0x32f irq 9,11 drq 0,1 on isa0 > unknown0: at port 0x170-0x177,0x376-0x377 irq 15 drq 3 on isa0 > unknown1: at port 0x201 on isa0 > unknown2: at port 0x388-0x389 irq 5 on isa0 > unknown3: at irq 10 on isa0 [snip] > And now, for the problems: > > I use amp-0.7.6 and mpg123-0.59q (from the ports tree) and pcmplay, which > comes with tosha, to play audio. The first two play mp3 files, and the > last one plays straight pcm files. > > - pcmplay either plays static, or plays the audio file at what appears to > be half speed. I tried recompiling it, but that didn't help. pcmplay is > a very simple program, and appears to be properly setting the various > sound ioctls. I'm not familiar with the sound code, so I don't know > for sure of course. In any case, it hasn't functioned properly at all > since upgrading from -current as of ~June 26th to current as of last > week. > > - mpg123 and amp work most of the time. Sometimes, they play nothing but > static. Sometimes they play the file, but there is also a hiss along > with the audio. Splay is affected, too. Plays both wav and mp3 files at half speed. Xaudio works fine, also mpg123 as you noted. I have ordinary GUS PnP, with 1MB of memory. Just FYI. -- Vallo Kallaste vallo@matti.ee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Nov 6 3: 4:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from zed.ludd.luth.se (zed.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C880E14D1F for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 03:04:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pantzer@speedy.ludd.luth.se) Received: from speedy.ludd.luth.se (pantzer@speedy.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.164]) by zed.ludd.luth.se (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id MAA14782; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 12:04:00 +0100 Message-Id: <199911061104.MAA14782@zed.ludd.luth.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: vallo@matti.ee Cc: "Kenneth D. Merry" , multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: newpcm problems with GUS PnP In-Reply-To: Message from Vallo Kallaste of "Sat, 06 Nov 1999 12:02:45 +0200." <19991106120245.A5682@myhakas.matti.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 12:04:00 +0100 From: Mattias Pantzare Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Splay is affected, too. Plays both wav and mp3 files at half speed. > Xaudio works fine, also mpg123 as you noted. I have ordinary GUS PnP, > with 1MB of memory. Just FYI. Try the patch in problem report 14372. (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=14372) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Nov 6 5:53:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from maulwurf.franken.de (maulwurf.franken.de [193.141.110.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B14814D6F for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 05:53:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gaspode.franken.de!tanis@maulwurf.franken.de) Received: by maulwurf.franken.de via rmail with stdio id for freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 14:53:30 +0100 (MET) (Smail-3.2 1996-Jul-4 #1 built DST-May-30) Received: (from tanis@localhost) by gaspode.franken.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA09168; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 12:56:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from tanis) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 12:56:15 +0100 From: German Tischler To: Vallo Kallaste Cc: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Subject: Re: newpcm problems with GUS PnP Message-ID: <19991106125615.A8856@gaspode.franken.de> References: <199911060859.BAA00599@panzer.kdm.org> <19991106120245.A5682@myhakas.matti.ee> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19991106120245.A5682@myhakas.matti.ee>; from Vallo Kallaste on Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 12:02:45PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 12:02:45PM +0200, Vallo Kallaste wrote: > Splay is affected, too. Plays both wav and mp3 files at half speed. > Xaudio works fine, also mpg123 as you noted. I have ordinary GUS PnP, > with 1MB of memory. Just FYI. The newpcm code in current throws away the stereo flag if you set the data format after selecting stereo. -- German Tischler, tanis@gaspode.franken.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-multimedia Sat Nov 6 13:19: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2069314F78 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 13:19:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA01146; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 14:18:50 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ken) Message-Id: <199911062118.OAA01146@panzer.kdm.org> Subject: Re: newpcm problems with GUS PnP In-Reply-To: <199911061104.MAA14782@zed.ludd.luth.se> from Mattias Pantzare at "Nov 6, 1999 12:04:00 pm" To: pantzer@ludd.luth.se (Mattias Pantzare) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 14:18:50 -0700 (MST) Cc: vallo@matti.ee, multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Kenneth D. Merry" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-multimedia@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mattias Pantzare wrote... > > > Splay is affected, too. Plays both wav and mp3 files at half speed. > > Xaudio works fine, also mpg123 as you noted. I have ordinary GUS PnP, > > with 1MB of memory. Just FYI. > > Try the patch in problem report 14372. > (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=14372) Thanks, that fixed pcmplay. It makes sense, since pcmplay first sets stereo, and then later the format. Unfortunately, though, this doesn't fix all of my problems with newpcm. I suppose I can reassign your PR to one of the maintainers, to get their attention...it doesn't look like Cameron Grant has been doing much in the past month or so on newpcm, but Seigo Tanimura has. So who is the newpcm maintainer? Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-multimedia" in the body of the message