From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue Jan 19 12:26:02 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA03529 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 12:26:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bright.fx.genx.net (bright.fx.genx.net [206.64.4.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA03508 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 12:25:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by bright.fx.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA61299 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 15:31:40 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: bright.fx.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 15:31:40 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@bright.fx.genx.net To: sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: if anyone noticed netbsd has a snapshot up. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org netbsd has a sparc64 snapshot up, there are a lot of broken things in it according to them. i'll be checking it out: ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/arch/sparc64/snapshot/19990114/ have fun. Alfred Perlstein - Programmer, HotJobs Inc. - www.hotjobs.com -- There are operating systems, and then there's FreeBSD. -- http://www.freebsd.org/ 3.0-current To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue Jan 19 18:57:59 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA16947 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 18:57:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA16924; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 18:57:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id NAA07611; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:27:41 +1030 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.2/8.9.0) id NAA09369; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:27:39 +1030 (CST) Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 13:27:39 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Darrin Hodges Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD for sparc Message-ID: <19990120132739.O4646@freebie.lemis.com> References: <36A53ED4.333A7AAE@qmi.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i In-Reply-To: <36A53ED4.333A7AAE@qmi.com.au>; from Darrin Hodges on Wed, Jan 20, 1999 at 01:26:28PM +1100 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday, 20 January 1999 at 13:26:28 +1100, Darrin Hodges wrote: > hello, > I read an article on sunworld that there is sparc port of Free BSD, > is it true? No, that's not true. What I wrote was: Other projects include a port to UltraSPARC, which hasn't yet made significant headway. More specifically, some people are playing around with NetBSD versions, wondering how to integrate them into the FreeBSD source tree, and others are discussing how to do it. > and where can i grab it. Sign up on FreeBSD-sparc if you want to lend a hand. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue Jan 19 19:51:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA23582 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:51:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp.enteract.com (thor.enteract.com [207.229.143.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id TAA23577 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 19:51:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jrs@enteract.com) Received: (qmail 3810 invoked from network); 20 Jan 1999 03:51:48 -0000 Received: from adam.enteract.com (jrs@206.54.252.1) by thor.enteract.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 1999 03:51:48 -0000 Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 21:51:47 -0600 (CST) From: John Sconiers To: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: sparc porting Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just came into a sparc 5 and ultra 5. I plan to use both to help port freebsd. Two questions. 1. Is there a work in progress. How do I get it and start helping. 2. I know it's based on openbsd work (or so I've read) how closely related are they. JOHN To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue Jan 19 20:12:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA26063 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:12:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bright.fx.genx.net (bright.fx.genx.net [206.64.4.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA26056 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:12:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by bright.fx.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA62078; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 23:17:48 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: bright.fx.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 23:17:48 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@bright.fx.genx.net To: John Sconiers cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sparc porting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, John Sconiers wrote: > I just came into a sparc 5 and ultra 5. I plan to use both to help port > freebsd. Two questions. > > 1. Is there a work in progress. How do I get it and start helping. barely > > 2. I know it's based on openbsd work (or so I've read) how closely > related are they. no, netbsd. netbsd has a snapshot available, however i doublt they support ultra5 (because of the PCI) the sparc5 is useful if you want to attempt a 32bit port... drivers for the PCI system are needed for netbsd and freebsd. pick a spot and start working :) -Alfred > > JOHN > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message > Alfred Perlstein - Programmer, HotJobs Inc. - www.hotjobs.com -- There are operating systems, and then there's FreeBSD. -- http://www.freebsd.org/ 3.0-current To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue Jan 19 20:41:39 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA28759 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:41:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from smtp.enteract.com (thor.enteract.com [207.229.143.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id UAA28754 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:41:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jrs@enteract.com) Received: (qmail 9791 invoked from network); 20 Jan 1999 04:41:31 -0000 Received: from adam.enteract.com (jrs@206.54.252.1) by thor.enteract.com with SMTP; 20 Jan 1999 04:41:31 -0000 Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 22:41:31 -0600 (CST) From: John Sconiers To: Alfred Perlstein cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sparc porting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > I just came into a sparc 5 and ultra 5. I plan to use both to help port > > freebsd. Two questions. > > 1. Is there a work in progress. How do I get it and start helping. > barely So is the netbsd port going to be merged into freebsd or is it a joint port?? > > 2. I know it's based on openbsd work (or so I've read) how closely > > related are they. > no, netbsd. > netbsd has a snapshot available, however i doublt they support ultra5 > (because of the PCI) is the problem with probing.. > the sparc5 is useful if you want to attempt a 32bit port... > drivers for the PCI system are needed for netbsd and freebsd. > pick a spot and start working :) I'll visit the netbsd page and take a look :) > -Alfred JOHN To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Tue Jan 19 20:47:07 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA29261 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:47:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bright.fx.genx.net (bright.fx.genx.net [206.64.4.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA29256 for ; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 20:47:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by bright.fx.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA62123; Tue, 19 Jan 1999 23:52:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: bright.fx.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 23:52:50 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@bright.fx.genx.net To: John Sconiers cc: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sparc porting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 19 Jan 1999, John Sconiers wrote: > > > I just came into a sparc 5 and ultra 5. I plan to use both to help port > > > freebsd. Two questions. > > > 1. Is there a work in progress. How do I get it and start helping. > > barely > > So is the netbsd port going to be merged into freebsd or is it a joint > port?? We are hoping to learn from the path that netbsd has taken. One of those paths has been to integrate egcs *cough* PETER! *cough* :) > > > 2. I know it's based on openbsd work (or so I've read) how closely > > > related are they. > > no, netbsd. > > netbsd has a snapshot available, however i doublt they support ultra5 > > (because of the PCI) > > is the problem with probing.. that and no drivers to probe with. :) > > > the sparc5 is useful if you want to attempt a 32bit port... > > drivers for the PCI system are needed for netbsd and freebsd. > > pick a spot and start working :) > > I'll visit the netbsd page and take a look :) awesome, great to have you aboard. Alfred Perlstein - Programmer, HotJobs Inc. - www.hotjobs.com -- There are operating systems, and then there's FreeBSD. -- http://www.freebsd.org/ 3.0-current To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Wed Jan 20 04:04:10 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id EAA20928 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 04:04:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fep06-svc.tin.it (pop02-acc.tin.it [212.216.176.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id EAA20880 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 04:03:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paipai@box4.tin.it) Received: from winworkstation ([212.216.236.104]) by fep01-svc.tin.it (InterMail v4.0 201-221-105) with SMTP id <19981210011112.EMA26585.fep01-svc@winworkstation> for ; Thu, 10 Dec 1998 02:11:12 +0100 Comments: Authenticated sender is From: "Paolo Di Francesco" To: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1998 02:14:17 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Read this... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v2.53/R1) Message-Id: <19981210011112.EMA26585.fep01-svc@winworkstation> Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > Will someone with more courage and experiance than I please speak up about > > this, perhaps contact sun? > > Please _don't_ ask Sun for anything until you have a working port on > limited hardware. I doubt that anyone following this list would be > prepared to spend $$$ based on what has been said so far. Those people > who have access to Sun machines should be able to do a port with neither > financial nor moral support from Sun. If you want this sort of support, > you have to earn it. Let me explain the meaning of the word "support" from my personal point of view: 1) I haven't any Sun Hardware. I'm a student and I cannot pay 3000$ for a Sun Ultra5, only to "play" with it. I would have an AXi motherboard (good for experiments) but it costs too much. So, for the hardware I would have something like 50% of the price (no free hardware, at actual stage). Why Sun could give me/us this: I have not 3000$, and actually there are few persons with an Ultra box, so _if_ Sun wants more developers on this project they must help in some way. This is the situation it's not "charity"... Please note also the word "Open" also means: I can buy it for a good price. 2) Docs, pdf and other things.... On Intel you can find _anything_ about "how it boots", "how it works", books and docs. If you go in a bookstore you can find many books about "everything". Not the same situation on Sparc. So again: "Open" means I can read "how it works" without paying 500$... 3) Moral support. Actually, if Sun (SME) will put something on-line about the harware we can do a good job (something that works/boots on limited hardware) with no moral support. We can do experiments where "I don't know how it works" and read where "it's documented at page..." Thanks for youe time 8) Ciao Ciao Paolo Di Francesco _ ->B<- All Recycled Bytes Message ... ~ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Wed Jan 20 05:29:09 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA29759 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 05:29:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fep03-svc.tin.it (mta03-acc.tin.it [212.216.176.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA29754 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 05:29:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paipai@box4.tin.it) Received: from winworkstation ([212.216.234.106]) by fep03-svc.tin.it (InterMail v4.0 201-221-105) with SMTP id <19990120132854.DELS6003.fep03-svc@winworkstation> for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:28:54 +0100 From: "Paolo Di Francesco" To: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:34:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Sorry for the messages.... X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990120132854.DELS6003.fep03-svc@winworkstation> Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't know why, but I think my ISP is still sending an old message with the subject "Read this...". So if you receive that message, sorry _I'm_ _not_ _sending_ it!!! I have re-installed everything (reformatted) so I don't think it's my mailer. Probably it's my ISP, or the robot of this list. I don't know. Ciao Ciao Paolo Di Francesco _ ->B<- All Recycled Bytes Message ... ~ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Wed Jan 20 05:29:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id FAA29810 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 05:29:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fep03-svc.tin.it (mta03-acc.tin.it [212.216.176.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id FAA29752 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 05:29:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paipai@box4.tin.it) Received: from winworkstation ([212.216.234.106]) by fep03-svc.tin.it (InterMail v4.0 201-221-105) with SMTP id <19990120132840.DEJQ6003.fep03-svc@winworkstation> for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:28:40 +0100 From: "Paolo Di Francesco" To: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 14:34:10 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: For who is interested X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990120132840.DEJQ6003.fep03-svc@winworkstation> Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't know if someone is interested in this. I have not sent messages in the last period but I have a good reason. I'm not dead. I'm waiting for the new hardware. I have contacted 2 hardware vendors (one in Italy, the second one in the USA -> memoryx) and I'm trying to have the best prices. So, when I'll have my new AXi motherboard I'll start coding... 8) (I hope before the end of this month ;) ) Ciao Ciao Paolo Di Francesco _ ->B<- All Recycled Bytes Message ... ~ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Wed Jan 20 08:27:41 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA17692 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 08:27:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from lestat.nas.nasa.gov (lestat.nas.nasa.gov [129.99.50.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17686 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 08:27:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from thorpej@lestat.nas.nasa.gov) Received: from lestat (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lestat.nas.nasa.gov (8.8.8/8.6.12) with ESMTP id IAA02355; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 08:26:50 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199901201626.IAA02355@lestat.nas.nasa.gov> To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: John Sconiers , freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sparc porting Reply-To: Jason Thorpe From: Jason Thorpe Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 08:26:49 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 23:52:50 -0500 (EST) Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > netbsd has a snapshot available, however i doublt they support ultra5 > > > (because of the PCI) > > > > is the problem with probing.. > > that and no drivers to probe with. :) Actually, NetBSD's PCI drivers are all machine-independent, and many of them are already known work properly on big-endian and 64-bit systems (Atari, Power Macintosh, Alpha). The main issue w/ supporting the Ultra5 in NetBSD/sparc64 is the PCI config, i/o, and mem space mapping, and the interrupt glue. These amount to a SMOP, really. -- Jason R. Thorpe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Wed Jan 20 08:57:49 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA20720 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 08:57:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bright.fx.genx.net (bright.fx.genx.net [206.64.4.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA20715 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 08:57:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by bright.fx.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA63019; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 12:03:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: bright.fx.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 12:03:31 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@bright.fx.genx.net To: Jason Thorpe cc: John Sconiers , freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sparc porting In-Reply-To: <199901201626.IAA02355@lestat.nas.nasa.gov> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 20 Jan 1999, Jason Thorpe wrote: > On Tue, 19 Jan 1999 23:52:50 -0500 (EST) > Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > > > netbsd has a snapshot available, however i doublt they support ultra5 > > > > (because of the PCI) > > > > > > is the problem with probing.. > > > > that and no drivers to probe with. :) > > Actually, NetBSD's PCI drivers are all machine-independent, and many of them > are already known work properly on big-endian and 64-bit systems (Atari, > Power Macintosh, Alpha). > > The main issue w/ supporting the Ultra5 in NetBSD/sparc64 is the PCI > config, i/o, and mem space mapping, and the interrupt glue. > > These amount to a SMOP, really. I apoligize for the 'FUD' I'm extremely busy and have been looking at as much as i can from the netbsd project, i didn't see PCI available in the kernels. btw, it is _awesome_ to see a SNAP of net-sparc64 up. -Alfred > > -- Jason R. Thorpe > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Wed Jan 20 09:04:55 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA21439 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:04:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from obie.softweyr.com ([204.68.178.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA21427 for ; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:04:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from softweyr.com (zaphod.softweyr.com [204.68.178.35]) by obie.softweyr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA10749; Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:04:30 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Message-ID: <36A60C9E.D50CB5D5@softweyr.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:04:30 -0700 From: Wes =?iso-8859-1?Q?Peters=D4?==?iso-8859-1?Q?=40=21=EA?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=80?==?iso-8859-1?Q?=EA?==?iso-8859-1?Q?=80=DD=E7?= =?iso-8859-1?Q?=805=EA?==?iso-8859-1?Q?=C0?==?iso-8859-1?Q?=EA?= Organization: Softweyr llc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paolo Di Francesco CC: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: For who is interested References: <19990120132840.DEJQ6003.fep03-svc@winworkstation> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Paolo Di Francesco wrote: > > I don't know if someone is interested in this. I have not sent messages > in the last period but I have a good reason. > > I'm not dead. I'm waiting for the new hardware. I have contacted 2 > hardware vendors (one in Italy, the second one in the USA -> memoryx) > and I'm trying to have the best prices. > > So, when I'll have my new AXi motherboard I'll start coding... 8) > > (I hope before the end of this month ;) ) I don't know if y'all caught the notice, but Sun just dropped the price of the entry-level Ultra 5 to $2,495 and added 24-bit graphics to sweeten the deal. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Jan 21 02:01:19 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA13806 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 02:01:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from gjp.erols.com (alex-va-n008c079.moon.jic.com [206.156.18.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id CAA13801 for ; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 02:01:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) Received: from gjp.erols.com (localhost.erols.com [127.0.0.1]) by gjp.erols.com (8.9.1/8.8.7) with ESMTP id FAA00647; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 05:00:56 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gjp@gjp.erols.com) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 To: wes@softweyr.com cc: Paolo Di Francesco , freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Gary Palmer" Subject: Re: For who is interested In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:04:30 MST." <36A60C9E.D50CB5D5@softweyr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 05:00:56 -0500 Message-ID: <643.916912856@gjp.erols.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I don't know if y'all caught the notice, but Sun just dropped the > price of the entry-level Ultra 5 to $2,495 and added 24-bit graphics > to sweeten the deal. Its more than that that has changed. I believe that there are also options to have CPUs with larger L2 caches, and the hard drive has been upgraded from the crappy slow one in the older U5's to at least a 5400 RPM drive, if not a 7200RPM drive. I forget all the details, I'm not really in the market much for U5's at work :) Gary -- Gary Palmer FreeBSD Core Team Member FreeBSD: Turning PC's into workstations. See http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/ for info To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Thu Jan 21 09:10:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA27808 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:10:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from obie.softweyr.com ([204.68.178.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA27796; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 09:10:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from softweyr.com (zaphod.softweyr.com [204.68.178.35]) by obie.softweyr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA13100; Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:10:14 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Message-ID: <36A75F76.C0643A12@softweyr.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1999 10:10:14 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr llc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Palmer CC: Paolo Di Francesco , freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: For who is interested References: <643.916912856@gjp.erols.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Gary Palmer wrote: > > > I don't know if y'all caught the notice, but Sun just dropped the > > price of the entry-level Ultra 5 to $2,495 and added 24-bit graphics > > to sweeten the deal. > > Its more than that that has changed. I believe that there are also options to > have CPUs with larger L2 caches, and the hard drive has been upgraded from the > crappy slow one in the older U5's to at least a 5400 RPM drive, if not a > 7200RPM drive. I forget all the details, I'm not really in the market much for > U5's at work :) I'm supposed to get the next one that comes out of company HQ! Yay! -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Jan 22 00:06:21 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA06401 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 00:06:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bright.fx.genx.net (bright.fx.genx.net [206.64.4.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA06395; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 00:06:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by bright.fx.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id DAA66522; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 03:12:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: bright.fx.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 03:12:13 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@bright.fx.genx.net To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG cc: sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Need sparc openboot reference Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Searching through http://docs.sun.com i'm having a hard time finding a reference on how to interact with the sparc 'BIOS'. can anyone give me a url (specific) or recommend a book that details this? since i have a 170/e and not a regular 170 (usparc) it's not booting netbsd correctly, i need to find out why. I am looking at netbsd/linux code right now, but a more descriptive to the point reference would be very helpful. thanks. oh and.... woo hoo! 4.0! 4.0! 4.0! 4.0! 4.0! thank you. Alfred Perlstein - Programmer, HotJobs Inc. - www.hotjobs.com -- There are operating systems, and then there's FreeBSD. -- http://www.freebsd.org/ 4.0-current (had to update the sig) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Jan 22 00:22:05 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA07830 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 00:22:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from elbereth.hss.hns.com (kchowksey.hss.hns.com [139.85.242.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA07792 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 00:21:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kch@elbereth.hss.hns.com) Received: (from kch@localhost) by elbereth.hss.hns.com (8.9.1/8.8.8) id NAA02202; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:50:40 +0530 (IST) (envelope-from kch) From: Kapil Chowksey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <13992.13527.799936.556898@elbereth.hss.hns.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 13:50:39 +0530 (IST) To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Need sparc openboot reference In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.63 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Friday, 22 January, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > Searching through http://docs.sun.com i'm having a hard time finding a > reference on how to interact with the sparc 'BIOS'. > > can anyone give me a url (specific) or recommend a book that details this? I recommend buying `Writing Open Firmware Client Programs' from http://www.firmworks.com Easier is to look at /usr/include/sys/openprom.h on your Solaris machine. > since i have a 170/e and not a regular 170 (usparc) it's not booting > netbsd correctly, i need to find out why. I am looking at netbsd/linux The reason for that is the `zs' chip is not being mapped at boot time by your PROM. You can workaround this by using `iomap' family of Forth commands before you boot. -- Kapil Chowksey "Viva GNU !" kch@kchowksey@hss.hns.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Jan 22 00:28:46 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA08532 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 00:28:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA08517; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 00:28:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id RAA22642; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:28:24 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <36A83677.DE06A25F@newsguy.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:27:35 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alfred Perlstein CC: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Need sparc openboot reference References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > Searching through http://docs.sun.com i'm having a hard time finding a > reference on how to interact with the sparc 'BIOS'. > > can anyone give me a url (specific) or recommend a book that details this? http://playground.sun.com/pub/1275/ ftp://playground.sun.com/pub/p1275/ http://www.firmworks.com/ I guess Sun split out it's firmware section to form FirmWorks, and that's why you can't find anything. Generally, www.forth.org (*not* forth.com, though that one also include nice links :) is the best way to find something related to Forth. (Which means, of course, that I just have to put something there about loader.) -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com If you sell your soul to the Devil and all you get is an MCSE from it, you haven't gotten market rate. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Jan 22 07:46:25 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA01290 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 07:46:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from obie.softweyr.com ([204.68.178.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA01283; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 07:46:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from softweyr.com (zaphod.softweyr.com [204.68.178.35]) by obie.softweyr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA15433; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:46:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Message-ID: <36A89D3B.97A1EE00@softweyr.com> Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 08:46:03 -0700 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr llc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gary Palmer , Paolo Di Francesco , freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: For who is interested References: <643.916912856@gjp.erols.com> <36A75F76.C0643A12@softweyr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wes Peters wrote: > > Gary Palmer wrote: > > > > > I don't know if y'all caught the notice, but Sun just dropped the > > > price of the entry-level Ultra 5 to $2,495 and added 24-bit graphics > > > to sweeten the deal. > > > > Its more than that that has changed. I believe that there are also options to > > have CPUs with larger L2 caches, and the hard drive has been upgraded from the > > crappy slow one in the older U5's to at least a 5400 RPM drive, if not a > > 7200RPM drive. I forget all the details, I'm not really in the market much for > > U5's at work :) > > I'm supposed to get the next one that comes out of company HQ! Yay! In the meantime, I have a shiny new (well, not so shiny and new to me) SPARCstation IPX at home, running NetBSD 1.3.3 on a 1.2 GB drive. I bought this specifically to play with the FreeBSD SPARC port as it progresses, and to help out where I can. Here's what it cost me: From GSTek, www.gstek.com: Barebones SPARCstation IPX: $35 Sun/Conner 200MB SCSI drive: 5 From a friend at work: 1.2G SCSI drive: $50 From Computer Renassiance: 72 pin 16MB FPM parity SIMM: $57 From DataComm Warehouse, www.warehouse.com: Transition AUI->10baseT xcvr: $20 --- $167 Anyone who wants to jump into the SPARC port but thought they couldn't afford a Sun machine, your number is up. You might want to talk to GSTek about RAM, those FPM parity SIMMs are getting hard to find. You'll also need a serial cable, see if your local cable supplier has a Mac to IBM "laplink" or "file transfer" cable; the serial ports on the IPX are 8-pin mini-DIN connectors wired just like the early Macintosh. Now, where do I get the compiler suite from? Has anybody made a binary package yet? ;^) -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr wes@softweyr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Jan 22 09:28:33 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11111 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:28:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from bright.fx.genx.net (bright.fx.genx.net [206.64.4.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11106 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:28:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by bright.fx.genx.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA67031; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:34:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bright@hotjobs.com) X-Authentication-Warning: bright.fx.genx.net: bright owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 12:34:23 -0500 (EST) From: Alfred Perlstein X-Sender: bright@bright.fx.genx.net To: Wes Peters cc: sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: For who is interested In-Reply-To: <36A89D3B.97A1EE00@softweyr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Wes Peters wrote: > > > > I don't know if y'all caught the notice, but Sun just dropped the > > > > price of the entry-level Ultra 5 to $2,495 and added 24-bit graphics > > > > to sweeten the deal. > > > > > > Its more than that that has changed. I believe that there are also options to > > > have CPUs with larger L2 caches, and the hard drive has been upgraded from the > > > crappy slow one in the older U5's to at least a 5400 RPM drive, if not a > > > 7200RPM drive. I forget all the details, I'm not really in the market much for > > > U5's at work :) > > > > I'm supposed to get the next one that comes out of company HQ! Yay! > > In the meantime, I have a shiny new (well, not so shiny and new to me) > SPARCstation IPX at home, running NetBSD 1.3.3 on a 1.2 GB drive. I > bought this specifically to play with the FreeBSD SPARC port as it > progresses, and to help out where I can. Here's what it cost me: > > From GSTek, www.gstek.com: > Barebones SPARCstation IPX: $35 > Sun/Conner 200MB SCSI drive: 5 > > From a friend at work: > 1.2G SCSI drive: $50 > > From Computer Renassiance: > 72 pin 16MB FPM parity SIMM: $57 > > From DataComm Warehouse, www.warehouse.com: > Transition AUI->10baseT xcvr: $20 > --- > $167 i'm drooling at the 3000$ ultra10!!! i payed $100 less for a ultra1 grrrrr... :) > > Anyone who wants to jump into the SPARC port but thought they couldn't > afford a Sun machine, your number is up. You might want to talk to > GSTek about RAM, those FPM parity SIMMs are getting hard to find. You'll > also need a serial cable, see if your local cable supplier has a Mac to > IBM "laplink" or "file transfer" cable; the serial ports on the IPX are > 8-pin mini-DIN connectors wired just like the early Macintosh. The stuff i'm working on is for sparc64. :/ > Now, where do I get the compiler suite from? Has anybody made a binary > package yet? ;^) i have a netbsd i386-> sparc64 compiler available in source and binary form on: ftp://janus.syracuse.net/pub/FreeBSD/sparc64/ look in egcs directory for all kinds of goodies. if anything, though the biggest advancment for future porting would be moving to egcs. 2.7.2.2 is _terrible_ right now, egcs-current is also in a bad state, perhaps when the next egcs release happens i'll take a serious effort on seeing if i can get it compile freebsd. even the egcs that netbsd uses is quite broken and they recommend building with a later snap (which the compilers i have on Janus are NOT) i'm going to work on getting a newer snap of egcs to work. question... what platform makes the most sense to build the cross compiler for? i386->sparc64, sparc32->sparc64? the coolest part about all this is that the netbsd is going to be the first 64bit userland from what i see. btw, i'm 'zbrightmn' on #freebsd/#bsdcode Alfred Perlstein - Programmer, HotJobs Inc. - www.hotjobs.com -- There are operating systems, and then there's FreeBSD. -- http://www.freebsd.org/ 4.0-current To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Jan 22 09:36:32 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA11824 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:36:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from xpert.com (xpert.com [199.203.132.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA11817; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 09:36:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from yuri@xpert.com) Received: from localhost (yuri@localhost) by xpert.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id TAA19724; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:35:54 +0200 Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1999 19:35:54 +0200 (IST) From: Yuri Gindin To: Wes Peters cc: Gary Palmer , Paolo Di Francesco , freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: For who is interested In-Reply-To: <36A89D3B.97A1EE00@softweyr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 22 Jan 1999, Wes Peters wrote: > From GSTek, www.gstek.com: > Barebones SPARCstation IPX: $35 > Sun/Conner 200MB SCSI drive: 5 > > From a friend at work: > 1.2G SCSI drive: $50 > > From Computer Renassiance: > 72 pin 16MB FPM parity SIMM: $57 You payed to much for this. Look at http://www.tktech.com/sun.html#memory $35 or http://www.memoryx.com/sun.htm $31 > > From DataComm Warehouse, www.warehouse.com: > Transition AUI->10baseT xcvr: $20 > --- > $167 > > Anyone who wants to jump into the SPARC port but thought they couldn't > afford a Sun machine, your number is up. You might want to talk to > GSTek about RAM, those FPM parity SIMMs are getting hard to find. You'll > also need a serial cable, see if your local cable supplier has a Mac to > IBM "laplink" or "file transfer" cable; the serial ports on the IPX are > 8-pin mini-DIN connectors wired just like the early Macintosh. > > Now, where do I get the compiler suite from? Has anybody made a binary > package yet? ;^) > > -- > "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" > > Wes Peters Softweyr LLC > http://www.softweyr.com/~softweyr wes@softweyr.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message > --Yuri Gindin Xpert UNIX Systems Ltd. Work phone: +972-3-6181118 PGP Key fingerprint = 5D 56 0B 88 F1 51 4B F7 52 FE 62 28 76 0A 18 77 PGP public key available via http://pgp5.ai.mit.edu/pks-commands.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-sparc Fri Jan 22 17:04:51 1999 Return-Path: Received: (from majordom@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA14627 for freebsd-sparc-outgoing; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:04:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG) Received: from fep01-svc.tin.it (mta01-acc.tin.it [212.216.176.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA14595 for ; Fri, 22 Jan 1999 17:04:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from paipai@box4.tin.it) Received: from winworkstation ([212.216.234.171]) by fep01-svc.tin.it (InterMail v4.0 201-221-105) with SMTP id <19990123010417.BDBF12752.fep01-svc@winworkstation> for ; Sat, 23 Jan 1999 02:04:17 +0100 From: "Paolo Di Francesco" To: freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 02:09:55 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Sun compiler - Snap? X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.01d) Message-Id: <19990123010417.BDBF12752.fep01-svc@winworkstation> Sender: owner-freebsd-sparc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can someone (Alfred? Can U? 8) ) download the latest version of 64-bit compiler from Sun? Read the announce at http://www.sun.com/workshop/ and download the latest 5.0 version. Why? It could be interesting to test it on the netbsd-snap. I don't know what you can download, but if there is a C compiler it could be _very_ interesting..... 8) About compilers: my opinion is we have to modify the ecgs/gcc source to have a good compiler. Yes, I know it's not an easy task, and not freebsd- related, but the egcs/gcc compiler/cross-compiler it not so usable. Suggestions? Comments? Ciao Ciao Paolo Di Francesco _ ->B<- All Recycled Bytes Message ... ~ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-sparc" in the body of the message