From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 8 14:32:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alice.gba.oz.au (gba-254.tmx.com.au [203.9.155.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D4DD415730 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 14:31:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjb@acm.org) Received: (qmail 16081 invoked by uid 1001); 8 May 1999 20:40:55 -0000 Message-ID: <19990508204055.16080.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> X-Posted-By: GBA-Post 1.03 20-Sep-1998 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5A91 6942 8CEA 9DAB B95B C249 1CE1 493B 2B5A CE30 Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 06:40:55 +1000 From: Greg Black To: "Greg Quinlan" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga III References: <001d01be9c62$8e640440$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> In-reply-to: <001d01be9c62$8e640440$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> of Wed, 12 May 1999 11:31:11 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Greg Quinlan" writes: > Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) > by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA00704 > for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 11:31:22 +0100 (BST) > Message-ID: <001d01be9c62$8e640440$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> > Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" > From: "Greg Quinlan" > To: > Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga III > Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 11:31:11 +0100 > [...] > X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 It may be the final two lines of the headers I've shown above that explains it, but the Date header on that message is in the future, although the very first Received header appears to have the correct date. This date in the future error has been very common on posts from Greg Quinlan. It would be a trivial thing to fix it. > Who wants a piece of my humble pie? I think I may have found my problem! Please learn from this experience and recognise that the advice that people were offering, in particular the suggestions that you check your hardware, was indeed good advice and should have been followed a little earlier rather than wasting so much of people's time with the scare stories about FreeBSD. > After the last reboot I opened it up while it was on... and to my horror the > CPU fan was not running!! Since this is an obvious candidate for the problems and since it's extremely simple to check, it should have been found a little earlier. I do think this saga points to the advisability of putting a warning about checking for hardware problems (including fans) in some prominent place that might be easily seen by people who are puzzled by unexplained system failures -- it is always the first thing to check in this kind of case. -- Greg Black To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 8 20:12:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bitey.cyber.com.au (CPE-24-192-22-25.vic.bigpond.net.au [24.192.22.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 256751573C for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 20:12:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tetragon@bitey.cyber.com.au) Received: from bitey.cyber.com.au (yakko [203.7.155.163]) by bitey.cyber.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA02410 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 13:06:07 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from tetragon@bitey.cyber.com.au) Message-ID: <3734FBD7.CB44EA7@bitey.cyber.com.au> Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 13:07:03 +1000 From: Gavan McCormack Reply-To: tetragon@cyber.com.au Organization: Searching --- 0% done. Please stand by. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS question.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Baldwin wrote: > You can give a list of directories to be exported, but all directories for a ... > /usr \ ... > All of these directories are in the filesystem /usr, and the computer foo can > only mount /usr, /usr/source/src, /usr/obj, /usr/source/ports, and ... So what you are saying then, is that I am right in assuming that FreeBSD cannot export (in your case) anything under /usr, without /usr itself. Sorry if I sound terse, but I do realise that I can list specific dirs under a filesystem to export if I do export the entire filesystem. My issue is that I dont want to export the root of the filesystem (/, in my case) to the remote machine, just to have a directory underneath it exported. (/usr/home, in my case.) I have been hearing around that NFSv3 is the only 'good' NFS, and so far no free Unixen have v3 implemented yet. I guess we will just have to wait.. :/ For the record tho, the SYSV-ish NFSd on Linux can export individual directories however. (But has other problems too.) > On 08-May-99 Gavan McCormack wrote: > > According to my 4.4BSD SMM "...the kernel information is stored on a per > > local file system mount point and client host address basis and cannot > > refer to individiual directories within the local server filesystem." ... > > Has this been changed in FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE? Or do I have to live with only > > being able to export whole filesystems? > John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ -- ________________________________________________________________________ Gavan A. McCormack - tetragon@cyber.com.au - tetragon@bitey.net Cybersource P/L. TCPIP network management & Unix system administration. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 8 21:30:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5CD14FAB for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 21:30:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA01778 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 00:30:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.63]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA25676 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 00:30:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3734FB2C.DAA448D5@bitey.cyber.com.au> Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 00:30:12 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS question.. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 09-May-99 Gavan McCormack wrote: > > > John Baldwin wrote: >> You can give a list of directories to be exported, but all directories for a > ... >> /usr \ > ... >> All of these directories are in the filesystem /usr, and the computer foo >> can >> only mount /usr, /usr/source/src, /usr/obj, /usr/source/ports, and > ... > > So what you are saying then, is that I am right in assuming that FreeBSD > cannot > export (in your case) anything under /usr, without /usr itself. No, I just happen to export my /usr. On a server at work, I have a /usr filesystem and only export /usr/X11R6 amd /usr/local from it. You just list all the directories you want to export. :) > Sorry if I sound terse, but I do realise that I can list specific dirs under > a filesystem to export if I do export the entire filesystem. My issue is that > I dont want to export the root of the filesystem (/, in my case) to the > remote > machine, just to have a directory underneath it exported. (/usr/home, in my > case.) No problem, was just making sure. > I have been hearing around that NFSv3 is the only 'good' NFS, and so far no > free Unixen have v3 implemented yet. I guess we will just have to wait.. :/ > For the record tho, the SYSV-ish NFSd on Linux can export individual > directories > however. (But has other problems too.) > >> On 08-May-99 Gavan McCormack wrote: >> > According to my 4.4BSD SMM "...the kernel information is stored on a per >> > local file system mount point and client host address basis and cannot >> > refer to individiual directories within the local server filesystem." > ... >> > Has this been changed in FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE? Or do I have to live with >> > only >> > being able to export whole filesystems? > >> John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ > -- > ________________________________________________________________________ > Gavan A. McCormack - tetragon@cyber.com.au - tetragon@bitey.net > Cybersource P/L. TCPIP network management & Unix system administration. --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 8 21:46:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp11.bellglobal.com (smtp11.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8DDF15A77 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 21:46:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from localhost.nowhere (ppp1569.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.249.33]) by smtp11.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id AAA22784; Sun, 9 May 1999 00:49:08 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by localhost.nowhere (8.9.3/8.9.1) id AAA04505; Sun, 9 May 1999 00:45:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 00:45:48 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: Greg Black Cc: Greg Quinlan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga III Message-ID: <19990509004548.A3961@mad> References: <001d01be9c62$8e640440$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> <19990508204055.16080.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <19990508204055.16080.qmail@alice.gba.oz.au>; from Greg Black on Sun, May 09, 1999 at 06:40:55AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 06:40:55AM +1000, Greg Black wrote: > > > Who wants a piece of my humble pie? I think I may have found my problem! > > Please learn from this experience and recognise that the advice > that people were offering, in particular the suggestions that > you check your hardware, was indeed good advice and should have > been followed a little earlier rather than wasting so much of Bah. -- This .sig is not innovative, witty, or profund. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 8 23:17:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from crydee.sai.msu.ru (crydee.sai.msu.ru [195.208.220.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 095C21570C for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 23:17:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Received: from localhost (asv1@localhost) by crydee.sai.msu.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA00719; Sun, 9 May 1999 09:17:56 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 09:17:56 +0400 (MSD) From: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" To: tetragon@cyber.com.au Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: <3733E063.3C0132FD@bitey.cyber.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 8 May 1999, Gavan McCormack wrote: > Sorry if this is not apropos for STABLE. > > I am running 3.1-STABLE, and wish to NFS export the _directory_ /usr/home. > > Currently, my /var and /usr are directories under /, I dont have a seperate > /usr partition. I want to export /usr/home, but do NOT want to have to > export /. > > According to my 4.4BSD SMM "...the kernel information is stored on a per > local file system mount point and client host address basis and cannot > refer to individiual directories within the local server filesystem." I was also hit by this idiosyncrasy when switching from Linux to FreeBSD (see my previous messages several days ago). Judging from comments by several people, FreeBSD NFS server can't export directories and is not supposed to; I had to find it hard way, trying to find out what is wrong with my /etc/exports. Finally today I have tried to take another approach, namely use Linux NFSD. I had to make some dirty hacks at the source (but not much), but to my surprise, it worked. I am able to export directories which are not mountpoints and re-export NFS-mounted directories. The write performance difference is also tremendous; with FreeBSD kernel implementation I was only getting ridiculous 580K/s over 100MBit full duplex cable; with Linux NFSD (user-level!) I get about 2M/sec (I am using NFSv2 clients; DOS PC/NFS and OS/2 NFS). Unfortunately, it does not work right all of the time. On some directories, it seems to report bogus data to clients, so that they hang, or crash, or display nonse. I can't make it work correctly. All in all, it seems Linux is way better at NFS and probably more suited for my needs. Too bad I have already converted 20GB to ffs :-( If you are interested in trying it: 1) disable NFS server by commenting 'nfs_server_enable="YES"' in /etc/rc.conf 2) rebuild your kernel with "options NFS_NOSERVER". 3) ask me for the hacked source (somebody could make a proper patch out of it? I am complete new to this) or try to build it yourself; the package I used is called nfs-server-2.2beta41.tar.gz 4) rewrite your exports file (see manpage from the sources); syntax is different from BSD 5) reboot with new kernel and start new versions of rpc.mountd and rpc.nfsd. FreeBSD pcnfsd port seems to work with this server. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Sergey Ayukov Sternberg Astronomical Institute http://www.ayukov.com Moscow, Russia http://crydee.sai.msu.ru/index-asv.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 8 23:52:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BE30C14D5C for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 23:52:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 10gNRB-0001a1-00; Sat, 8 May 1999 23:51:45 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 23:51:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" Cc: tetragon@cyber.com.au, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 9 May 1999, Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists) wrote: > On Sat, 8 May 1999, Gavan McCormack wrote: > > > Sorry if this is not apropos for STABLE. > > > > I am running 3.1-STABLE, and wish to NFS export the _directory_ /usr/home. > > > > Currently, my /var and /usr are directories under /, I dont have a seperate > > /usr partition. I want to export /usr/home, but do NOT want to have to > > export /. > > > > According to my 4.4BSD SMM "...the kernel information is stored on a per > > local file system mount point and client host address basis and cannot > > refer to individiual directories within the local server filesystem." > > I was also hit by this idiosyncrasy when switching from Linux to FreeBSD > (see my previous messages several days ago). Judging from comments by > several people, FreeBSD NFS server can't export directories and is not > supposed to; I had to find it hard way, trying to find out what is wrong First of all, NFS is only designed to export filesystems. FreeBSD can indeed export selective directories in a filesystem (see manpage), and nfsd will do its best to limit access to that directory. However, clients could guess and probably access stuff outside that directory tree. NFS uses inode numbers which come right out of the filesystems. > with my /etc/exports. Finally today I have tried to take another approach, > namely use Linux NFSD. I had to make some dirty hacks at the source (but > not much), but to my surprise, it worked. I am able to export directories > which are not mountpoints and re-export NFS-mounted directories. The write > performance difference is also tremendous; with FreeBSD kernel > implementation I was only getting ridiculous 580K/s over 100MBit full > duplex cable; with Linux NFSD (user-level!) I get about 2M/sec (I am using > NFSv2 clients; DOS PC/NFS and OS/2 NFS). K is KB or kb? M is MB or Mb? Anyhow, what you are seeing is the difference between safe NFS and unsafe NFS. Put FreeBSD NFS into unsafe mode, and you should get similar performance. By default FreeBSD NFS will not ack a write until the write has been hit the disk. Linux NFS acks writes as soon as they are received. > Unfortunately, it does not work right all of the time. On some > directories, it seems to report bogus data to clients, so that they hang, > or crash, or display nonse. I can't make it work correctly. All in all, it > seems Linux is way better at NFS and probably more suited for my needs. > Too bad I have already converted 20GB to ffs :-( Probably not. You need to understand the issues. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat May 8 23:53:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2AF2315794 for ; Sat, 8 May 1999 23:53:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 10gNSa-0001fI-00; Sat, 8 May 1999 23:53:12 -0700 Date: Sat, 8 May 1999 23:53:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: tetragon@cyber.com.au Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: <3734FBD7.CB44EA7@bitey.cyber.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 9 May 1999, Gavan McCormack wrote: > I have been hearing around that NFSv3 is the only 'good' NFS, and so far no > free Unixen have v3 implemented yet. I guess we will just have to wait.. :/ This isn't right either. FreeBSD has had NFSv3 for quite some time. It just needs more testing. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 0:15:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from crydee.sai.msu.ru (crydee.sai.msu.ru [195.208.220.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070E314D10 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 00:15:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Received: from localhost (asv1@localhost) by crydee.sai.msu.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA00418 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 10:18:07 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 10:18:07 +0400 (MSD) From: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 8 May 1999, Tom wrote: > > > Sorry if this is not apropos for STABLE. > > > > > > I am running 3.1-STABLE, and wish to NFS export the _directory_ /usr/home. > > > > > > Currently, my /var and /usr are directories under /, I dont have a seperate > > > /usr partition. I want to export /usr/home, but do NOT want to have to > > > export /. > > > > > > According to my 4.4BSD SMM "...the kernel information is stored on a per > > > local file system mount point and client host address basis and cannot > > > refer to individiual directories within the local server filesystem." > > > > I was also hit by this idiosyncrasy when switching from Linux to FreeBSD > > (see my previous messages several days ago). Judging from comments by > > several people, FreeBSD NFS server can't export directories and is not > > supposed to; I had to find it hard way, trying to find out what is wrong > > First of all, NFS is only designed to export filesystems. FreeBSD can > indeed export selective directories in a filesystem (see manpage), and > nfsd will do its best to limit access to that directory. However, > clients could guess and probably access stuff outside that directory tree. Yes, that is my concern on this issue. I need to export /var/spool for PCNFS printing, but exporting entire /var makes everybody's mail readable by everybody from the subnet :-( > NFS uses inode numbers which come right out of the filesystems. I understand that. But in reality, NFS client does not care about true inode numbers, right? Therefore NFS server could supply fake inode numbers, just as Linux NFSD does. This will also allow transparent exporting of underlying mountpoints (e.g., if /home/group1 is mounted on separate disk, it will still be visible from NFS-mounted /home) and re-export NFS-mounted subdirectories which I also would like to have. > > with my /etc/exports. Finally today I have tried to take another approach, > > namely use Linux NFSD. I had to make some dirty hacks at the source (but > > not much), but to my surprise, it worked. I am able to export directories > > which are not mountpoints and re-export NFS-mounted directories. The write > > performance difference is also tremendous; with FreeBSD kernel > > implementation I was only getting ridiculous 580K/s over 100MBit full > > duplex cable; with Linux NFSD (user-level!) I get about 2M/sec (I am using > > NFSv2 clients; DOS PC/NFS and OS/2 NFS). > > K is KB or kb? M is MB or Mb? Anyhow, what you are seeing is the KB and MB. > difference between safe NFS and unsafe NFS. Put FreeBSD NFS into unsafe > mode, and you should get similar performance. By default FreeBSD NFS will > not ack a write until the write has been hit the disk. Linux NFS acks > writes as soon as they are received. I do understand that. But how do I put FreeBSD NFS into unsafe mode? I can't seem to find the reference anywhere. > > Unfortunately, it does not work right all of the time. On some > > directories, it seems to report bogus data to clients, so that they hang, > > or crash, or display nonse. I can't make it work correctly. All in all, it > > seems Linux is way better at NFS and probably more suited for my needs. > > Too bad I have already converted 20GB to ffs :-( > > Probably not. You need to understand the issues. Well, I understand the issues (or at least I think so). But I am interested in fast, working NFS implementation (which I know could exist because Linux does it) and not in explanations (system administration is not my primary job). I can trade some bit of stability for performance in case of safe/unsafe NFS write modes. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Sergey Ayukov Sternberg Astronomical Institute http://www.ayukov.com Moscow, Russia http://crydee.sai.msu.ru/index-asv.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 1:18:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bitey.cyber.com.au (CPE-24-192-22-25.vic.bigpond.net.au [24.192.22.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41BCA1551C for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 01:18:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tetragon@bitey.cyber.com.au) Received: from bitey.cyber.com.au (yakko [203.7.155.163]) by bitey.cyber.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA02965; Sun, 9 May 1999 18:18:06 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from tetragon@bitey.cyber.com.au) Message-ID: <373544F8.2CA1CFBD@bitey.cyber.com.au> Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 18:19:04 +1000 From: Gavan McCormack Reply-To: tetragon@cyber.com.au Organization: Searching --- 0% done. Please stand by. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS question.. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tom wrote: > On Sun, 9 May 1999, Gavan McCormack wrote: > > I have been hearing around that NFSv3 is the only 'good' NFS, and so far no > > free Unixen have v3 implemented yet. I guess we will just have to wait.. :/ > This isn't right either. FreeBSD has had NFSv3 for quite some time. It > just needs more testing. I assume you mean in -CURRENT? This is the -STABLE list remember. :) Still, good to know that v3 is being worked on and will be in there once all the issues are worked out. (Almost tempted to switch to -CURRENT, but I think I will resist that temptation.) On a side note, I have to say that the SYSV-ish NFS under Linux, though it can export on a per-directory basis, seemed to have its own quirks and problems when I used it. Its been a little while now, but I think I would prefer to live with the tested NFS under FreeBSD than try to hack in the Linux NFS. After all, thats why I run -STABLE.. > Tom -- ________________________________________________________________________ Gavan A. McCormack - tetragon@cyber.com.au - tetragon@bitey.net Cybersource P/L. TCPIP network management & Unix system administration. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 2:57:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5911715162 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 02:57:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id SAA11417; Sun, 9 May 1999 18:56:31 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <37355B45.6F9B43B5@newsguy.com> Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 18:54:13 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: tetragon@cyber.com.au Cc: Tom , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. References: <373544F8.2CA1CFBD@bitey.cyber.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gavan McCormack wrote: > > > > I have been hearing around that NFSv3 is the only 'good' NFS, and so far no > > > free Unixen have v3 implemented yet. I guess we will just have to wait.. :/ > > This isn't right either. FreeBSD has had NFSv3 for quite some time. It > > just needs more testing. > > I assume you mean in -CURRENT? This is the -STABLE list remember. :) Still, Wrong. AFAIK, even 2.2.x has nfsv3. But only in 3.x the default became nfsv3 instead of v2. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "Proof of Trotsky's farsightedness is that _none_ of his predictions have come true yet." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 4: 5:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bitey.cyber.com.au (CPE-24-192-22-25.vic.bigpond.net.au [24.192.22.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE62314D32 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 04:05:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tetragon@bitey.cyber.com.au) Received: from bitey.cyber.com.au (yakko [203.7.155.163]) by bitey.cyber.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id VAA03240; Sun, 9 May 1999 21:00:59 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from tetragon@bitey.cyber.com.au) Message-ID: <37356B25.DC23929@bitey.cyber.com.au> Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 21:01:57 +1000 From: Gavan McCormack Reply-To: tetragon@cyber.com.au Organization: Searching --- 0% done. Please stand by. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. References: <373544F8.2CA1CFBD@bitey.cyber.com.au> <37355B45.6F9B43B5@newsguy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: > Gavan McCormack wrote: > > > > I have been hearing around that NFSv3 is the only 'good' NFS, and so far no > > > This isn't right either. FreeBSD has had NFSv3 for quite some time. It > > I assume you mean in -CURRENT? This is the -STABLE list remember. :) Still, > Wrong. AFAIK, even 2.2.x has nfsv3. But only in 3.x the default Ok, so this list likes to keep me guessing. I assume then that NFSv3 cant do per-directory exporting? Or it just dosent make a difference on any version of BSD4.4? Or, I am just doing something wrong? Someone wanna clear the situation up before I install RH5.2?? (The original question being, can I export on a per-directory basis from my 3.1-STABLE machine, without exporting the entire local filesystem?) > Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) -- ________________________________________________________________________ Gavan A. McCormack - tetragon@cyber.com.au - tetragon@bitey.net Cybersource P/L. TCPIP network management & Unix system administration. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 4:23:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A747014FF1 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 04:23:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id NAA19909; Sun, 9 May 1999 13:23:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 13:23:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199905091123.NAA19909@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: "make buildwold" breakage in -stable Cc: jb@cimlogic.com.au Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ===> libc_r [...] cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/include -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -D_THREAD_SAFE -DNOPOLL -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/locale -DBROKEN_DES -DYP -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_attr_destroy.c -o uthread_attr_destroy.o cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/include -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -D_THREAD_SAFE -DNOPOLL -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/locale -DBROKEN_DES -DYP -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_attr_init.c -o uthread_attr_init.o cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/include -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -D_THREAD_SAFE -DNOPOLL -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread -D__DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/locale -DBROKEN_DES -DYP -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_attr_getdetachstate.c -o uthread_attr_getdetachstate.o make: don't know how to make uthread_attr_getinheritsched.c. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. I waited ~ 1 hour, re-CVSupped, removed my local object and source trees, checked out a new copy, tried again -- still the same problem. CVSupped & checked out at about 10:00 GMT today. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 4:32:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8BD415054 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 04:32:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.9.1/8.9.1) id VAA13432; Sun, 9 May 1999 21:43:04 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) From: John Birrell Message-Id: <199905091143.VAA13432@cimlogic.com.au> Subject: Re: "make buildwold" breakage in -stable In-Reply-To: <199905091123.NAA19909@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> from Oliver Fromme at "May 9, 1999 1:23:17 pm" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 21:43:04 +1000 (EST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jb@cimlogic.com.au X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Oliver Fromme wrote: > ===> libc_r [...] > > I waited ~ 1 hour, re-CVSupped, removed my local object > and source trees, checked out a new copy, tried again -- > still the same problem. > > CVSupped & checked out at about 10:00 GMT today. > Thanks for reporting this. I forgot to add the RELENG_3 tag to the new files. And good 'ol cvs just chose to ignore the extra files that were in the checked out RELENG_3 tagged directory. Sigh. -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 4:51:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E2F14F10 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 04:51:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA33776; Sun, 9 May 1999 12:51:15 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 12:51:14 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: John Birrell Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "make buildwold" breakage in -stable In-Reply-To: <199905091143.VAA13432@cimlogic.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 9 May 1999, John Birrell wrote: > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > ===> libc_r > [...] > > > > I waited ~ 1 hour, re-CVSupped, removed my local object > > and source trees, checked out a new copy, tried again -- > > still the same problem. > > > > CVSupped & checked out at about 10:00 GMT today. > > > > Thanks for reporting this. I forgot to add the RELENG_3 tag to the new > files. And good 'ol cvs just chose to ignore the extra files that were in > the checked out RELENG_3 tagged directory. Sigh. I had a bunch of those with gdb too... -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 5:50:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.relcom.ru (mail1.relcom.ru [193.125.153.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E266714E61 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 05:50:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from voux@iname.com) Received: from voux.pp.relcom.ru (voux.pp.relcom.ru [193.125.20.103]) by mail1.relcom.ru (8.8.8/Relcom-2A) with ESMTP id QAA26508 for ;Sun, 9 May 1999 16:34:44 +0400 (MSD) Received: by hedgehog.shadow.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 43A6541E4E; Sun, 9 May 1999 16:35:54 +0400 (MSD) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hedgehog.shadow.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BCEA3C544 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 16:35:54 +0400 (MSD) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 16:35:54 +0400 (MSD) From: voux X-Sender: voux@localhost To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: make: don't know how to make uthread_attr_getinheritsched (fwd) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks, I have cvsup'ed 3.1-STABLE at may 9. Then I tryed to make buildworld and got following error when tryed to build uthread: cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/inc lude -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -D_THREAD_SAFE -DNOPOLL -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread -D__ DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/locale -DBROKE N_DES -DYP -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uth read_attr_destroy.c -o uthread_attr_destroy.o cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/inc lude -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -D_THREAD_SAFE -DNOPOLL -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread -D__ DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/locale -DBROKE N_DES -DYP -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uth read_attr_init.c -o uthread_attr_init.o cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/inc lude -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -D_THREAD_SAFE -DNOPOLL -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread -D__ DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/locale -DBROKE N_DES -DYP -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uth read_attr_getdetachstate.c -o uthread_attr_getdetachstate.o make: don't know how to make uthread_attr_getinheritsched.c. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Only I have this problem or anyone else ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 6: 3: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sequent.relcom.ru (sequent.relcom.ru [193.125.152.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7166714CFE for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 06:02:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from voux@iname.com) Received: from voux.pp.relcom.ru (voux.pp.relcom.ru [193.125.20.103]) by sequent.relcom.ru (8.8.8/Relcom-2A) with ESMTP id QAA05878 for ;Sun, 9 May 1999 16:58:45 +0400 (MSD) Received: by hedgehog.shadow.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DEC1041E4B; Sun, 9 May 1999 16:28:35 +0400 (MSD) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hedgehog.shadow.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6357F3C544 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 16:28:35 +0400 (MSD) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 16:28:35 +0400 (MSD) From: voux X-Sender: voux@localhost To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: make: don't know how to make uthread_attr_getinheritsched Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have cvsup'ed 3.1-STABLE at may 9. Then I tryed to make buildworld and got following error when tryed to build uthread: cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/inc lude -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -D_THREAD_SAFE -DNOPOLL -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread -D__ DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/locale -DBROKE N_DES -DYP -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uth read_attr_destroy.c -o uthread_attr_destroy.o cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/inc lude -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -D_THREAD_SAFE -DNOPOLL -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread -D__ DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/locale -DBROKE N_DES -DYP -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uth read_attr_init.c -o uthread_attr_init.o cc -nostdinc -O -pipe -DLIBC_RCS -DSYSLIBC_RCS -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/inc lude -DPTHREAD_KERNEL -D_THREAD_SAFE -DNOPOLL -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread -D__ DBINTERFACE_PRIVATE -DPOSIX_MISTAKE -I/usr/src/lib/libc_r/../libc/locale -DBROKE N_DES -DYP -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uth read_attr_getdetachstate.c -o uthread_attr_getdetachstate.o make: don't know how to make uthread_attr_getinheritsched.c. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Only I have this problem or anyone else ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 6:32:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from grizzly.fas.com (cc69528-a.mtpls1.sc.home.com [24.6.61.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 930C1150E5 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 06:32:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stanb@awod.com) Received: by grizzly.fas.com ($Revision: 1.37.109.23 $/16.2) id AA182766749; Sun, 9 May 1999 09:32:29 -0400 Subject: gtk2 port make wierdness :-( To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Stable Mailing List) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 09:32:28 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stan Brown" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1870 Message-Id: <19990509133233.930C1150E5@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am still trying to make gnome on my 3-STABLE laptop. I finally traced down the compile fialure to imlib's failure to proerly compile, amnd install. It did register itself as installed even though it failed the build process :-( Now the problem with it seems to be related to gtk2, so I tried to rebuild it, but that failed in a really strange way: Script started on Sun May 9 09:23:21 1999 \n\nWARNING: YOU ARE SUPERUSER !!\n ]0;root@brown.fas.com;/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk12root@brown.fas.com:/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk12 $ make install Error: you don't have the right version of perl in /usr/bin. *** Error code 1 Stop. ]0;root@brown.fas.com;/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk12root@brown.fas.com:/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk12 $ perl -v This is perl, version 5.005_02 built for i386-freebsd Copyright 1987-1998, Larry Wall Perl may be copied only under the terms of either the Artistic License or the GNU General Public License, which may be found in the Perl 5.0 source kit. Complete documentation for Perl, including FAQ lists, should be found on this system using `man perl' or `perldoc perl'. If you have access to the Internet, point your browser at http://www.perl.com/, the Perl Home Page. ]0;root@brown.fas.com;/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk12root@brown.fas.com:/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk12 $ Script done on Sun May 9 09:23:43 1999 What version of perl ist it expecting? -- Stan Brown stanb@netcom.com 843-745-3154 Westvaco Charleston SC. -- Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. - (c) 1999 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 7: 4:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011B914F5C for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 07:04:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id HAA19756; Sun, 9 May 1999 07:05:52 -0700 Received: from cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca(142.31.240.113), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda19748; Sun May 9 07:05:09 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA21109; Sun, 9 May 1999 07:01:56 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905091401.HAA21109@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdH21105; Sun May 9 07:01:46 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: mike@sentex.net (Mike Tancsa) Cc: rmillian@rochester.rr.com (Rudynell Millian), freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Best 3.0 to 3.1 upgrade path,... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 06 May 1999 02:05:47 GMT." <3730f80f.221416229@mail.sentex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 07:01:46 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm running four machines at 3.1 and one at 2.2.8 (no time to upgrade). Of the four 3.1 machines, three are extremely stable. The fourth has had very occasional problems when under heavy VM load since upgrading to 3.1 -- e.g 3 lockups since Feb. It also happens to be the fastest (333 MHz compared to 150, 120, and 33 MHz). I just applied the patches listed in PR 8416. We'll see what happens. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" In message <3730f80f.221416229@mail.sentex.net>, Mike Tancsa writes: > On 5 May 1999 19:04:42 -0400, in sentex.lists.freebsd.misc you wrote: > > >o Cvsup directly to 3.1 stable from my current 3.0 setup? > > I would say cvsup. > > >I see a lot of problems reported against 3.1. in the stable group. This > >makes me reluctant to upgrade. It seems there were fewer issues with > >2.2.8. > > Yes and no.. Remember, you are generally only going to hear about problems, > and not posts that say "Everything OK here... no problems to report". I > have a couple of 3.x machines in production, and so far I have been quite > happy with them. But going from 3.0 to STABLE should do you well, > especially if you are using well supported hardware. > > ---Mike > Mike Tancsa (mdtancsa@sentex.net) > Sentex Communications Corp, > Waterloo, Ontario, Canada > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 8: 7:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from carabosse.oleane.net (carabosse.oleane.net [194.2.28.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6D06154FB for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 08:07:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jaco@titine.fr.eu.org) Received: from tom.oleane.net (smtp.dial.oleane.com [194.2.0.54]) by carabosse.oleane.net with ESMTP id RAA08542; Sun, 9 May 1999 17:07:27 +0200 Received: from titine.fr.eu.org (dyn-1-1-010.Tls.dialup.oleane.fr [194.2.21.10]) by tom.oleane.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA02626; Sun, 9 May 1999 17:07:25 +0200 Received: by titine.fr.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2737B195E4; Sun, 9 May 1999 17:04:56 +0200 (CEST) To: "Stan Brown" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Stable Mailing List) Subject: Re: gtk2 port make wierdness :-( References: <19990509133233.930C1150E5@hub.freebsd.org> From: Eric Jacoboni Date: 09 May 1999 17:04:55 +0200 In-Reply-To: "Stan Brown"'s message of "Sun, 9 May 1999 09:32:28 -0400 (EDT)" Message-ID: <87u2tms2qw.fsf@titine.fr.eu.org> Lines: 20 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.6.45/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Stan Brown" writes: > ]0;root@brown.fas.com;/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk12root@brown.fas.com:/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk12 > $ make install > Error: you don't have the right version of perl in /usr/bin. > *** Error code 1 > $ perl -v > > This is perl, version 5.005_02 built for i386-freebsd In 3.1-Stable, perl version is now 5.005_03 : % perl -v This is perl, version 5.005_03 built for i386-freebsd -- --------------------------------------------------------- Éric Jacoboni « No sport, cigars! » (W. Churchill) --------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 8:55: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC5BC14FB1 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 08:54:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id IAA20144; Sun, 9 May 1999 08:55:55 -0700 Received: from cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca(142.31.240.113), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda20138; Sun May 9 08:55:34 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA21421; Sun, 9 May 1999 08:54:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905091554.IAA21421@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpds21417; Sun May 9 08:54:26 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: Eric Jacoboni Cc: "Stan Brown" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Stable Mailing List) Subject: Re: gtk2 port make wierdness :-( In-reply-to: Your message of "09 May 1999 17:04:55 +0200." <87u2tms2qw.fsf@titine.fr.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 08:54:26 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <87u2tms2qw.fsf@titine.fr.eu.org>, Eric Jacoboni writes: > "Stan Brown" writes: > = > > =1B]0;root@brown.fas.com;/usr/ports/x11-toolkits/gtk12=07root@brown.f= as.com:/usr/ > ports/x11-toolkits/gtk12 > > $ make install > > Error: you don't have the right version of perl in /usr/bin. > > *** Error code 1 > = > > $ perl -v > > = > > This is perl, version 5.005_02 built for i386-freebsd > = > In 3.1-Stable, perl version is now 5.005_03 : > = > % perl -v > This is perl, version 5.005_03 built for i386-freebsd The quick circumvention is to change the line bsd.port.mk containing, PERL_VERSION=3D 5.00503 to PERL_VERSION=3D 5.00502 The best fix is to upgrade to the latest -stable. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=3D0" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 9:16:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from unix1.it-datacntr.louisville.edu (unix1.it-datacntr.louisville.edu [136.165.4.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C669B14BF4 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 09:16:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k.stevenson@louisville.edu) Received: from homer.louisville.edu (ktstev01@homer.louisville.edu [136.165.1.20]) by unix1.it-datacntr.louisville.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA21106 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 12:16:30 -0400 Received: (from ktstev01@localhost) by homer.louisville.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id MAA15393 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 9 May 1999 12:16:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <19990509121630.A14743@homer.louisville.edu> Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 12:16:30 -0400 From: Keith Stevenson To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. References: <373544F8.2CA1CFBD@bitey.cyber.com.au> <37355B45.6F9B43B5@newsguy.com> <37356B25.DC23929@bitey.cyber.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <37356B25.DC23929@bitey.cyber.com.au>; from Gavan McCormack on Sun, May 09, 1999 at 09:01:57PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, May 09, 1999 at 09:01:57PM +1000, Gavan McCormack wrote: > > Someone wanna clear the situation up before I install RH5.2?? (The original > question being, can I export on a per-directory basis from my 3.1-STABLE > machine, without exporting the entire local filesystem?) This is from a 3.1-STABLE box: # df -k Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0s1a 1016303 20277 914722 2% / /dev/wd0s1e 508143 1 467491 0% /home/home1 /dev/wd1s1e 1016303 7702 927297 1% /soft/soft1 /dev/wd0s1g 417119 2 383748 0% /tmp /dev/wd0s1f 2032623 404667 1465347 22% /usr /dev/wd1s1f 1016303 2193 932806 0% /var /dev/wd1s1g 1016303 137 934862 0% /var/log /dev/wd1s1h 925215 6 851192 0% /var/tmp procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc /dev/wfd0s1e 119439 5068 104816 5% /var/adm/tcheck # cd /var/adm/tcheck/ # ls -l total 7 drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 May 4 11:19 bin drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Mar 26 20:58 databases drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 May 4 11:19 osaka -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3753 Mar 26 20:52 tw.config # showmount -e localhost Exports list on localhost: /var/adm/tcheck/osaka foo.example.org My analysis of this is that FreeBSD _CAN_ export subdirectories under a mount point. As for the issue of whether or not the NFS client can somehow trick the NFS server into granting access about the export point, well I don't export to hosts I don't trust. (You shouldn't with Linux either.) I ran Linux for 5 years prior to switching to FreeBSD. The hardest thing about setting up NFS under Linux is that *&%@! config file format. FreeBSD's /etc/exports format is a lot closer to the commercial *NIXs I work with. I'd recommend against reinstalling RedHat. I came from that world, and have been much happier since I made the switch. I only wish that my HPUX systems were as well-behaved as my FreeBSD boxen. Regards, --Keith Stevenson-- -- Keith Stevenson System Programmer - Data Center Services - University of Louisville k.stevenson@louisville.edu PGP key fingerprint = 4B 29 A8 95 A8 82 EA A2 29 CE 68 DE FC EE B6 A0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 9:35:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from crydee.sai.msu.ru (crydee.sai.msu.ru [195.208.220.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97FBD14FA6 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 09:35:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Received: from localhost (asv1@localhost) by crydee.sai.msu.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA01779; Sun, 9 May 1999 19:36:57 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 19:36:57 +0400 (MSD) From: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" To: Keith Stevenson Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: <19990509121630.A14743@homer.louisville.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 9 May 1999, Keith Stevenson wrote: > > Someone wanna clear the situation up before I install RH5.2?? (The original > > question being, can I export on a per-directory basis from my 3.1-STABLE > > machine, without exporting the entire local filesystem?) > > This is from a 3.1-STABLE box: > > # df -k > Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on > /dev/wd0s1a 1016303 20277 914722 2% / > /dev/wd0s1e 508143 1 467491 0% /home/home1 > /dev/wd1s1e 1016303 7702 927297 1% /soft/soft1 > /dev/wd0s1g 417119 2 383748 0% /tmp > /dev/wd0s1f 2032623 404667 1465347 22% /usr > /dev/wd1s1f 1016303 2193 932806 0% /var > /dev/wd1s1g 1016303 137 934862 0% /var/log > /dev/wd1s1h 925215 6 851192 0% /var/tmp > procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc > /dev/wfd0s1e 119439 5068 104816 5% /var/adm/tcheck > > # cd /var/adm/tcheck/ > # ls -l > total 7 > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 May 4 11:19 bin > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Mar 26 20:58 databases > drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 May 4 11:19 osaka > -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 3753 Mar 26 20:52 tw.config > > # showmount -e localhost > Exports list on localhost: > /var/adm/tcheck/osaka foo.example.org And your /etc/exports file?? > My analysis of this is that FreeBSD _CAN_ export subdirectories under > a mount point. As for the issue of whether or not the NFS client can > somehow trick the NFS server into granting access about the export > point, well I don't export to hosts I don't trust. (You shouldn't > with Linux either.) Hmmm... I wonder if 3.1-RELEASE is broken? I can't do the same; if I put /var/spool/pcnfs into /etc/exports without exporting /var, all I get is: May 9 19:26:02 crydee mountd[1723]: could not remount /var/spool/pcnfs: Invalid argument May 9 19:26:02 crydee mountd[1723]: bad exports list line /var/spool/pcnfs -alldirs -network 195.208.220 -mask 255.255.255.0 and /var/spool/pcnfs is not listed in `showmount -e' output. > I ran Linux for 5 years prior to switching to FreeBSD. The hardest thing about > setting up NFS under Linux is that *&%@! config file format. FreeBSD's > /etc/exports format is a lot closer to the commercial *NIXs I work with. I'd > recommend against reinstalling RedHat. I came from that world, and have been > much happier since I made the switch. I only wish that my HPUX systems were > as well-behaved as my FreeBSD boxen. So far I did not reach any stage of happiness yet... Config format is rather minor issue IMHO unless you have 100-line exports file which is unlikely. All in all, right now Linux NFS looks better for me: it has more features and is much faster. This might depend on many factors, of course. If your clients are Solaris or other commercial Unixes with NFSv3, FreeBSD might be a lot better for you than Linux. In my case, it is not. The bad part about Linux NFS was that pcnfsd tends to crash from time to time (esp. when printing files over 10MB), sometimes taking also lpd with him. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Sergey Ayukov Sternberg Astronomical Institute http://www.ayukov.com Moscow, Russia http://crydee.sai.msu.ru/index-asv.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 9:41:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6052715748 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 09:41:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA00834 for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 May 1999 09:41:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Message-ID: <19990509094119.A827@nuxi.com> Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 09:41:19 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: NOAOUT default for -STABLE Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-BETA Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've gotten a few requests now to make NOAOUT the default (or change it to WANT_AOUT as in -CURRENT) since we now have compat22 in the tree. Opinions? -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 9:55: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8513157F5 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 09:54:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (jack@localhost) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA53864; Sun, 9 May 1999 12:54:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 12:54:47 -0400 (EDT) From: jack To: "David O'Brien" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NOAOUT default for -STABLE In-Reply-To: <19990509094119.A827@nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Today David O'Brien wrote: > I've gotten a few requests now to make NOAOUT the default (or change it > to WANT_AOUT as in -CURRENT) since we now have compat22 in the tree. > > Opinions? Do it please. And while your're at it, add compat22 to the COMPAT_DISTS?= line in .../release/Makefile in both STABLE and CURRENT. :) -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 10:51:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dhcp9540076.columbus.rr.com (dhcp9540076.columbus.rr.com [24.95.40.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 681EF15CB7 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 10:51:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rowland@dhcp9540076.columbus.rr.com) Received: (from rowland@localhost) by dhcp9540076.columbus.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA10044; Sun, 9 May 1999 13:49:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rowland) To: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. References: X-Face: "<|%>c@Vfv/8}+Av1z:R5sDzf!3QVer!n\,.&+&h\k1,BHAoyw8Gp10<-SqZ<*"|!U!a#xg6ls?1,Vj$m@r?uHcfB,'i:LLgtyb;~}O8v7zZThuB`X~#IE{v*"PhI]cl/>&ys(MGa%y:6~TuHFw&~|V?!9HZ_R"<}dC5D:%igP2Q6ZJex,P0M From: Shaun Rowland Date: 09 May 1999 13:49:13 -0400 In-Reply-To: "Sergey Ayukov's message of "Sun, 9 May 1999 19:36:57 +0400 (MSD)" Message-ID: <87iua2rv52.fsf@dhcp9540076.columbus.rr.com> Lines: 65 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" writes: > On Sun, 9 May 1999, Keith Stevenson wrote: > > > > Someone wanna clear the situation up before I install RH5.2?? (The original > > > question being, can I export on a per-directory basis from my 3.1-STABLE > > > machine, without exporting the entire local filesystem?) If I understand you correctly, yes. This is a look at my system: [rowland@dhcp9540076 rowland]$ df -k Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/wd0s1a 31743 20627 8577 71% / /dev/wd2s1f 1414895 596818 704886 46% /home /dev/wd0s1f 10847082 2251228 7728088 23% /usr /dev/wd0s1e 29751 4675 22696 17% /var procfs 4 4 0 100% /proc I can export the directory /usr/local/mp3 to my laptop without exporting /usr. > Hmmm... I wonder if 3.1-RELEASE is broken? I can't do the same; if I put > /var/spool/pcnfs into /etc/exports without exporting /var, all I get is: > > May 9 19:26:02 crydee mountd[1723]: could not remount /var/spool/pcnfs: > Invalid argument > May 9 19:26:02 crydee mountd[1723]: bad exports list line > /var/spool/pcnfs -alldirs -network 195.208.220 -mask > 255.255.255.0 > > and /var/spool/pcnfs is not listed in `showmount -e' output. This is a piece of the exports man page: In a mount entry, the first field(s) specify the directory path(s) within a server filesystem that can be mounted on by the corresponding client(s). There are two forms of this specification. The first is to list all mount points as absolute directory paths separated by whites- pace. The second is to specify the pathname of the root of the filesys- tem followed by the -alldirs flag; this form allows the host(s) to mount at any point within the filesystem, including regular files if the -r op- tion is used on mountd. The pathnames must not have any symbolic links in them and should not have any "." or ".." components. Mount points for a filesystem may appear on multiple lines each with different sets of hosts and export options. If you use the -alldirs flag it placed after the root of a filesystem which you want to allow the client(s) to mount any directory under. Therefore, you could do: /var -alldirs -network 195.208.220 -mask 255.255.255.0 in /etc/exports to allow clients to mount any directory under /var. If all you want to do is export /var/spool/pcnfsd, don't use -alldirs. I have a 3.1-STABLE box and I can export a directory on my /usr filesystem to my laptop across a VPN. This is my /etc/exports file: # This is for the laptop to add mp3 files to the Rio player. /usr/local/mp3 -webnfs laptop.vpn0.domain I believe I did this in 3.1-RELEASE as well. -- Shaun Rowland rowland@cis.ohio-state.edu IICF System Administrator DL798 http://www.cis.ohio-state.edu/~rowland To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 11: 5: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B37150AF for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 11:04:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29238; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:04:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.63]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29337; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:04:52 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990509094119.A827@nuxi.com> Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 14:04:53 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: "David O'Brien" Subject: RE: NOAOUT default for -STABLE Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 09-May-99 David O'Brien wrote: > I've gotten a few requests now to make NOAOUT the default (or change it > to WANT_AOUT as in -CURRENT) since we now have compat22 in the tree. > > Opinions? Yes. Before 3.2 if possible. --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 11: 5: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F68715776 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 11:04:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA29233; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:04:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.63]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA28870; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:04:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 14:04:52 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" Subject: Re: NFS question.. Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Keith Stevenson Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 09-May-99 Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists) wrote: > Hmmm... I wonder if 3.1-RELEASE is broken? I can't do the same; if I put > /var/spool/pcnfs into /etc/exports without exporting /var, all I get is: > > May 9 19:26:02 crydee mountd[1723]: could not remount /var/spool/pcnfs: > Invalid argument > May 9 19:26:02 crydee mountd[1723]: bad exports list line > /var/spool/pcnfs -alldirs -network 195.208.220 -mask > 255.255.255.0 > > and /var/spool/pcnfs is not listed in `showmount -e' output. Looks like you already have /var or a subdirectory under it in another exports line that contains a host from 195.208.220 --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 11:13:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from crydee.sai.msu.ru (crydee.sai.msu.ru [195.208.220.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C4415A8C for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 11:13:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Received: from localhost (asv1@localhost) by crydee.sai.msu.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA00507; Sun, 9 May 1999 21:15:33 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 21:15:33 +0400 (MSD) From: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" To: John Baldwin Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Keith Stevenson Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 9 May 1999, John Baldwin wrote: > > Hmmm... I wonder if 3.1-RELEASE is broken? I can't do the same; if I put > > /var/spool/pcnfs into /etc/exports without exporting /var, all I get is: > > > > May 9 19:26:02 crydee mountd[1723]: could not remount /var/spool/pcnfs: > > Invalid argument > > May 9 19:26:02 crydee mountd[1723]: bad exports list line > > /var/spool/pcnfs -alldirs -network 195.208.220 -mask > > 255.255.255.0 > > > > and /var/spool/pcnfs is not listed in `showmount -e' output. > > Looks like you already have /var or a subdirectory under it in another exports > line that contains a host from 195.208.220 No. Here's /etc/exports which causes the above error: # # This file contains a list of all directories exported to other computers. # It is used by rpc.nfsd and rpc.mountd. /vol1/ftp/pub/.1 -ro -network 195.208.220 -mask 255.255.255.0 /vol1/ftp/pub/.2 -ro -network 195.208.220 -mask 255.255.255.0 /var/spool/pcnfs -alldirs -network 195.208.220 -mask 255.255.255.0 /var/spool/pcnfs -alldirs -network 158.250.29 -mask 255.255.255.0 /vol1/ftp/pub/.1 -ro -network 158.250.29 -mask 255.255.255.0 /vol1/ftp/pub/.2 -ro -network 158.250.29 -mask 255.255.255.0 /vol1 lab /vol1/ftp/pub/.1 lab /vol1/ftp/pub/.2 lab /home -alldirs lab /tmp1 lab --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Sergey Ayukov Sternberg Astronomical Institute http://www.ayukov.com Moscow, Russia http://crydee.sai.msu.ru/index-asv.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 11:24:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AAB314C22 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 11:24:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA01012; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:24:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.63]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA22690; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:24:51 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 14:24:52 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" Subject: Re: NFS question.. Cc: Keith Stevenson , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, John Baldwin Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 09-May-99 Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists) wrote: > On Sun, 9 May 1999, John Baldwin wrote: >> Looks like you already have /var or a subdirectory under it in another >> exports >> line that contains a host from 195.208.220 > > No. Here's /etc/exports which causes the above error: > ># ># This file contains a list of all directories exported to other computers. ># It is used by rpc.nfsd and rpc.mountd. > > /vol1/ftp/pub/.1 -ro -network 195.208.220 -mask 255.255.255.0 > /vol1/ftp/pub/.2 -ro -network 195.208.220 -mask 255.255.255.0 > > /var/spool/pcnfs -alldirs -network 195.208.220 -mask 255.255.255.0 > /var/spool/pcnfs -alldirs -network 158.250.29 -mask 255.255.255.0 > > /vol1/ftp/pub/.1 -ro -network 158.250.29 -mask 255.255.255.0 > /vol1/ftp/pub/.2 -ro -network 158.250.29 -mask 255.255.255.0 > > /vol1 lab > /vol1/ftp/pub/.1 lab > /vol1/ftp/pub/.2 lab > /home -alldirs lab > /tmp1 lab Does it still give an error if you take the "-alldirs" option out of the /var/spool/pcnfs lines? --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 12:30: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from crydee.sai.msu.ru (crydee.sai.msu.ru [195.208.220.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E4B814CF2 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 12:29:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Received: from localhost (asv1@localhost) by crydee.sai.msu.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA01092; Sun, 9 May 1999 22:30:30 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 22:30:30 +0400 (MSD) From: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" To: John Baldwin Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 9 May 1999, John Baldwin wrote: > >> Looks like you already have /var or a subdirectory under it in another > >> exports > >> line that contains a host from 195.208.220 > > > > No. Here's /etc/exports which causes the above error: > > > ># > ># This file contains a list of all directories exported to other computers. > ># It is used by rpc.nfsd and rpc.mountd. > > > > /vol1/ftp/pub/.1 -ro -network 195.208.220 -mask 255.255.255.0 > > /vol1/ftp/pub/.2 -ro -network 195.208.220 -mask 255.255.255.0 > > > > /var/spool/pcnfs -alldirs -network 195.208.220 > -mask 255.255.255.0 > > /var/spool/pcnfs -alldirs -network 158.250.29 > -mask 255.255.255.0 > > > > /vol1/ftp/pub/.1 -ro -network 158.250.29 -mask 255.255.255.0 > > /vol1/ftp/pub/.2 -ro -network 158.250.29 -mask 255.255.255.0 > > > > /vol1 lab > > /vol1/ftp/pub/.1 lab > > /vol1/ftp/pub/.2 lab > > /home -alldirs lab > > /tmp1 lab > > Does it still give an error if you take the "-alldirs" option out of the > /var/spool/pcnfs lines? Surprisingly, no. This looks quite interesting. The reason I was putting -alldirs flag is in stupid pcnfs printing which mounts directories like /var/spool/pcnfs/machine-name. The solution I have settled on is rather ugly but seems to work: /var/spool/pcnfs/fine \ /var/spool/pcnfs/fine2 \ /var/spool/pcnfs/lyambda \ /var/spool/pcnfs/solar \ /var/spool/pcnfs/universe \ /var/spool/pcnfs/silden \ /var/spool/pcnfs/rillanon /var/spool/pcnfs/practic \ /var/spool/pcnfs/prof \ /var/spool/pcnfs/spiral \ lab friends (lab and friends are netgroups; this BSD feature I quite like). At least one problem with NFS seems to go away... Thank you very much, John! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Sergey Ayukov Sternberg Astronomical Institute http://www.ayukov.com Moscow, Russia http://crydee.sai.msu.ru/index-asv.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 12:47:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025AA1581D for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 12:47:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA07308; Sun, 9 May 1999 15:47:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.63]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA26970; Sun, 9 May 1999 15:47:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 15:47:45 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" Subject: Re: NFS question.. Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 09-May-99 Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists) wrote: > Surprisingly, no. This looks quite interesting. The reason I was putting > -alldirs flag is in stupid pcnfs printing which mounts directories like > /var/spool/pcnfs/machine-name. The solution I have settled on is rather > ugly but seems to work: > > /var/spool/pcnfs/fine \ > /var/spool/pcnfs/fine2 \ > /var/spool/pcnfs/lyambda \ > /var/spool/pcnfs/solar \ > /var/spool/pcnfs/universe \ > /var/spool/pcnfs/silden \ > /var/spool/pcnfs/rillanon > /var/spool/pcnfs/practic \ > /var/spool/pcnfs/prof \ > /var/spool/pcnfs/spiral \ > lab friends > > (lab and friends are netgroups; this BSD feature I quite like). At least > one problem with NFS seems to go away... Thank you very much, John! Glad that it worked. Also, according to the exports(5) manpage, the -alldirs flag would have exported all of /var, which is not what you wanted: "...the -alldirs flag; this form allows the host(s) to mount at any point within the filesystem..." Which is not what you wanted. The best solution might be to (in the future) make /var/spool/pcnfs it's own partition and then export that with -alldirs. I looked through the mountd source very briefly but didn't see why the -alldirs option made a difference. Hmm. --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 12:52:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from crydee.sai.msu.ru (crydee.sai.msu.ru [195.208.220.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C38B1538A for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 12:52:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Received: from localhost (asv1@localhost) by crydee.sai.msu.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA01205; Sun, 9 May 1999 22:54:44 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 22:54:44 +0400 (MSD) From: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" To: John Baldwin Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 9 May 1999, John Baldwin wrote: > > (lab and friends are netgroups; this BSD feature I quite like). At least > > one problem with NFS seems to go away... Thank you very much, John! > > Glad that it worked. Also, according to the exports(5) manpage, the -alldirs > flag would have exported all of /var, which is not what you wanted: > > "...the -alldirs flag; this form allows the host(s) to mount > at any point within the filesystem..." I wanted all directories under /var/spool/pcnfs ;-) and thought -alldirs would do exactly that if I write /var/spool/pcnfs -alldirs but it seems that -alldirs wants to export entire local filesystem. > Which is not what you wanted. The best solution might be to (in the > future) make /var/spool/pcnfs it's own partition and then export that > with -alldirs. I looked through the mountd source very briefly but > didn't see why the -alldirs option made a difference. Hmm. Thank you again for help! --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Sergey Ayukov Sternberg Astronomical Institute http://www.ayukov.com Moscow, Russia http://crydee.sai.msu.ru/index-asv.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 13:48:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E67F014EBD for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 13:48:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 10gaUH-0004Hj-00; Sun, 9 May 1999 13:47:49 -0700 Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 13:47:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: tetragon@cyber.com.au Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: <373544F8.2CA1CFBD@bitey.cyber.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 9 May 1999, Gavan McCormack wrote: > > > Tom wrote: > > On Sun, 9 May 1999, Gavan McCormack wrote: > > > I have been hearing around that NFSv3 is the only 'good' NFS, and so far no > > > free Unixen have v3 implemented yet. I guess we will just have to wait.. :/ > > This isn't right either. FreeBSD has had NFSv3 for quite some time. It > > just needs more testing. > > I assume you mean in -CURRENT? This is the -STABLE list remember. :) Still, > good to know that v3 is being worked on and will be in there once all the > issues are worked out. (Almost tempted to switch to -CURRENT, but I think I > will resist that temptation.) No. NFSv3 has been around since 3.0-RELEASE. > On a side note, I have to say that the SYSV-ish NFS under Linux, though it > can export on a per-directory basis, seemed to have its own quirks and > problems when I used it. Its been a little while now, but I think I would > prefer to live with the tested NFS under FreeBSD than try to hack in the > Linux NFS. After all, thats why I run -STABLE.. Beware, exporting filesystems on a per directory basis can just be an illusion. > > Tom > -- > ________________________________________________________________________ > Gavan A. McCormack - tetragon@cyber.com.au - tetragon@bitey.net > Cybersource P/L. TCPIP network management & Unix system administration. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > Tom Systems Support Uniserve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 14: 5:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EF6215760 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:05:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id OAA21052; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:06:24 -0700 Received: from da014.inetex.com(139.142.118.29), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdb21043; Sun May 9 14:06:04 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA23091; Sun, 9 May 1999 11:54:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905091854.LAA23091@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdD23087; Sun May 9 11:54:14 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: "Justin Wolf" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Stability concerns in latest -STABLEs. In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 07 May 1999 08:38:27 PDT." <003701be989f$bb6f2d00$06c3fe90@bleeding.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 11:54:14 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <003701be989f$bb6f2d00$06c3fe90@bleeding.com>, "Justin Wolf" writes: > than "It was up for a few weeks, then I came home one night and it was > sitting at the "System halted" message (that turned out to be bad memory > that for some reason, Windows liked just fine - it only crashed during > kernel compiles). Take a look at http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 14: 6:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 454AB15851 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:06:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id OAA21059; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:07:04 -0700 Received: from da014.inetex.com(139.142.118.29), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda21057; Sun May 9 14:06:56 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA33676; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:05:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905092105.OAA33676@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdL33672; Sun May 9 14:05:36 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 07 May 1999 22:07:18 +0300." <19990507220718.B31932@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 14:05:36 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <19990507220718.B31932@relay.ucb.crimea.ua>, Ruslan Ermilov writes: > Just FYI: > > $ uname -r; uptime > 2.2.1-RELEASE > 10:02PM up 115 days, 5:57, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.09, 0.14 > (last reboot was due to ) > > $ uname -r; uptime > 3.1-STABLE > 10:02PM up 8 days, 11:07, 6 users, load averages: 0.27, 0.17, 0.11 > (last reboot was due to system freeze) You know the strange thing about these freezes is that they don't occur on every system. For example, I manage four 3.1R systems and a 2.2.8R system. Three of the 3.1 systems are rock solid. The fourth one, which also happens to have the fastest clock speed (333MHz PII in a Dell), has frozen four times since February while I was running tripwire 1.3 with -interactive, during phase 4 file checks, and starting netscape, and restoring exmh2 from an icon. The system is doing A LOT of paging at the time of the hangs. PR 8416 might hold some promise of fixing this. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 14:37: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from implode.root.com (root.com [209.102.106.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5E3A157D7 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:36:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA25801; Sun, 9 May 1999 14:31:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905092131.OAA25801@implode.root.com> To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: Ruslan Ermilov , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 09 May 1999 14:05:36 PDT." <199905092105.OAA33676@cwsys.cwsent.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Sun, 09 May 1999 14:31:23 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >In message <19990507220718.B31932@relay.ucb.crimea.ua>, Ruslan Ermilov >writes: >> Just FYI: >> >> $ uname -r; uptime >> 2.2.1-RELEASE >> 10:02PM up 115 days, 5:57, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.09, 0.14 >> (last reboot was due to ) >> >> $ uname -r; uptime >> 3.1-STABLE >> 10:02PM up 8 days, 11:07, 6 users, load averages: 0.27, 0.17, 0.11 >> (last reboot was due to system freeze) > >You know the strange thing about these freezes is that they don't occur >on every system. For example, I manage four 3.1R systems and a 2.2.8R >system. Three of the 3.1 systems are rock solid. The fourth one, >which also happens to have the fastest clock speed (333MHz PII in a >Dell), has frozen four times since February while I was running >tripwire 1.3 with -interactive, during phase 4 file checks, and >starting netscape, and restoring exmh2 from an icon. The system is >doing A LOT of paging at the time of the hangs. PR 8416 might hold >some promise of fixing this. I had problems with a couple of systems spontaneously rebooting when doing lots of disk I/O. Turned out that the 450MHz Pentium-II's in them were actually re-marked 350's. Needless to say, the problems disappeared when I put real 450's in them. -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 16:37:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from grizzly.fas.com (cc69528-a.mtpls1.sc.home.com [24.6.61.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 248D41520B for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 16:37:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stanb@awod.com) Received: by grizzly.fas.com ($Revision: 1.37.109.23 $/16.2) id AA198713042; Sun, 9 May 1999 19:37:22 -0400 Subject: curese foiled again, or the ongoing saga of the gnome port :-( To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG (FreeBSD Stable Mailing List) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 19:37:21 -0400 (EDT) From: "Stan Brown" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 69297 Message-Id: <19990509233728.248D41520B@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well the unending battle with the gnome port continuse. I think I made some progeress, but I am stuck again. The current problem is in gnumeric. Here is the build script: Script started on Sun May 9 19:25:21 1999 \n\nWARNING: YOU ARE SUPERUSER !!\n ]0;root@brown.fas.com;/usr/ports/math/gnumericroot@brown.fas.com:/usr/ports/math/gnumeric $ make ===> Extracting for gnumeric-0.18 >> Checksum OK for gnumeric-0.18.tar.gz. ===> gnumeric-0.18 depends on executable: panel - found ===> gnumeric-0.18 depends on executable: python - found ===> gnumeric-0.18 depends on shared library: xml.0 - found ===> gnumeric-0.18 depends on shared library: X11.6 - found ===> Patching for gnumeric-0.18 ===> Applying FreeBSD patches for gnumeric-0.18 ===> Configuring for gnumeric-0.18 creating cache ./config.cache checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c -o root -g wheel checking whether build environment is sane... yes checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... yes checking for working aclocal... missing checking for working autoconf... found checking for working automake... missing checking for working autoheader... found checking for working makeinfo... found checking whether to enable maintainer-specific portions of Makefiles... no checking for gnome-config... /usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-config checking if /usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-config works... yes checking for orbit-config... /usr/local/bin/orbit-config checking for orbit-idl... /usr/local/bin/orbit-idl checking for working ORBit environment... yes checking for gnorba libraries... yes checking for gcc... cc checking whether the C compiler (cc -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/X11R6/lib) works... yes checking whether the C compiler (cc -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/X11R6/lib) is a cross-compiler... no checking whether we are using GNU C... yes checking whether cc accepts -g... yes checking for POSIXized ISC... no checking for gcc... (cached) cc checking whether the C compiler (cc -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/X11R6/lib) works... yes checking whether the C compiler (cc -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/X11R6/lib) is a cross-compiler... no checking whether we are using GNU C... (cached) yes checking whether cc accepts -g... (cached) yes checking how to run the C preprocessor... cc -E checking for ANSI C header files... yes checking for bison... bison -y checking host system type... i386--freebsd3.2 checking build system type... i386--freebsd3.2 checking for ranlib... ranlib checking for ld used by GCC... /usr/libexec/elf/ld checking if the linker (/usr/libexec/elf/ld) is GNU ld... yes checking for BSD-compatible nm... /usr/bin/nm -B checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output... yes checking for _ prefix in compiled symbols... no checking whether ln -s works... yes checking for object suffix... o checking for cc option to produce PIC... -fPIC checking if cc PIC flag -fPIC works... yes checking if cc supports -c -o file.o... yes checking if cc supports -c -o file.lo... yes checking if cc supports -fno-rtti -fno-exceptions ... no checking if cc static flag -static works... -static checking if the linker (/usr/libexec/elf/ld) is GNU ld... yes checking whether the linker (/usr/libexec/elf/ld) supports shared libraries... yes checking command to parse /usr/bin/nm -B output... yes checking how to hardcode library paths into programs... immediate checking for /usr/libexec/elf/ld option to reload object files... -r checking dynamic linker characteristics... freebsd3.2 ld.so checking if libtool supports shared libraries... yes checking whether to build shared libraries... yes checking whether to build static libraries... yes checking for objdir... .libs creating libtool checking what warning flags to pass to the C compiler... -Wall -Wno-unused checking what language compliance flags to pass to the C compiler... checking for pthread_create in -lpthread... no checking for pthread_create in -lpthreads... no checking for pthread_create in -lc_r... yes checking for gtk-config... /usr/X11R6/bin/gtk12-config checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.0... yes checking for SmcSaveYourselfDone in -lSM... yes checking for X11/SM/SMlib.h... yes checking for XpmFreeXpmImage in -lXpm... yes checking for gnome-config... (cached) /usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-config checking for xmlNewDoc in -lxml... yes checking for main in -lqthreads... no checking for qt_null in -lqt... no checking for main in -ltermcap... yes checking for main in -lreadline... yes checking for guile-config... yes checking whether guile-config works... yes checking for sin in -lm... yes checking for guile libraries... -L/usr/local/lib -lguile -lreadline -ltermcap -lm checking for guile headers... -I/usr/local/include checking whether guile works... yes checking for working const... yes checking for inline... inline checking for off_t... yes checking for size_t... yes checking for working alloca.h... no checking for alloca... yes checking for unistd.h... yes checking for getpagesize... yes checking for working mmap... yes checking for argz.h... no checking for limits.h... yes checking for locale.h... yes checking for nl_types.h... yes checking for malloc.h... no checking for string.h... yes checking for unistd.h... (cached) yes checking for values.h... no checking for sys/param.h... yes checking for getcwd... yes checking for munmap... yes checking for putenv... yes checking for setenv... yes checking for setlocale... yes checking for strchr... yes checking for strcasecmp... yes checking for __argz_count... no checking for __argz_stringify... no checking for __argz_next... no checking for stpcpy... no checking for LC_MESSAGES... yes checking whether NLS is requested... yes checking whether included gettext is requested... no checking for libintl.h... yes checking for gettext in libc... no checking for bindtextdomain in -lintl... yes checking for gettext in libintl... no checking whether catgets can be used... no checking for msgfmt... /usr/local/bin/msgfmt checking for gmsgfmt... /usr/local/bin/msgfmt checking for xgettext... /usr/local/bin/xgettext checking for catalogs to be installed... cs de es es_DO es_GT es_HN es_MX es_PA es_PE es_SV fr hu it ja ko no pt ru pl checking for perl... true checking for perl ExtUtils::Embed module... yes checking for python... true updating cache ./config.cache creating ./config.status creating gnumeric.spec creating Makefile creating src/Makefile creating doc/Makefile creating doc/C/Makefile creating doc/es/Makefile sed: ./doc/es/Makefile.in: No such file or directory creating plugins/Makefile creating plugins/sample/Makefile creating plugins/excel/Makefile creating plugins/python/Makefile creating plugins/perl/Makefile creating plugins/perl/ext/Makefile.PL creating plugins/stat/Makefile creating plugins/guile/Makefile creating plugins/ff-csv/Makefile creating plugins/text/Makefile creating intl/Makefile creating po/Makefile.in creating macros/Makefile creating stamp.h creating config.h ===> Building for gnumeric-0.18 make all-recursive Making all in intl Making all in po Making all in macros Making all in plugins Making all in stat /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=compile cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c stat.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/share/locale\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c -fPIC -DPIC stat.c -o stat.lo cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/share/locale\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c stat.c -o stat.o >/dev/null 2>&1 /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=link cc -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o libstat.la -rpath /usr/X11R6/share/gnome/gnumeric/plugins stat.lo -lm -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lxpg4 mkdir .libs cc -shared -Wl,-soname -Wl,libstat.so.0 -o .libs/libstat.so.0 stat.lo (cd .libs && ln -s libstat.so.0 libstat.so) ar cru .libs/libstat.a stat.o ranlib .libs/libstat.a creating libstat.la (cd .libs && ln -s ../libstat.la libstat.la) Making all in excel cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I../../src -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c boot.c boot.c: In function `excel_init': boot.c:70: warning: implicit declaration of function `file_format_register_open' cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I../../src -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c ms-excel.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I../../src -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c ms-formula.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I../../src -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c ms-ole.c In file included from ms-ole.c:13: /usr/include/malloc.h:2: warning: #warning "this file includes which is deprecated, use instead" rm -f libexcel.a ar cru libexcel.a boot.o ms-excel.o ms-formula.o ms-ole.o ranlib libexcel.a Making all in ff-csv /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=compile cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/gnome/locale"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -g -Wall -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -c csv-io.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/share/gnome/locale\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -g -Wall -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -c -fPIC -DPIC csv-io.c -o csv-io.lo In file included from csv-io.c:29: ../../src/file.h:31: warning: declaration of `open' shadows global declaration csv-io.c:173: warning: no previous prototype for `csv_read_workbook' csv-io.c: In function `csv_cleanup_plugin': csv-io.c:215: warning: passing arg 1 of `file_format_unregister_save' from incompatible pointer type csv-io.c:216: warning: control reaches end of non-void function csv-io.c: At top level: csv-io.c:226: warning: no previous prototype for `init_plugin' csv-io.c: In function `init_plugin': csv-io.c:230: warning: assignment from incompatible pointer type cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/share/gnome/locale\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -g -Wall -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -c csv-io.c -o csv-io.o >/dev/null 2>&1 /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=link cc -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -g -Wall -Wshadow -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o libcsv.la -rpath /usr/X11R6/lib/gnumeric/plugins csv-io.lo -lm -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lxpg4 mkdir .libs cc -shared -Wl,-soname -Wl,libcsv.so.0 -o .libs/libcsv.so.0 csv-io.lo (cd .libs && ln -s libcsv.so.0 libcsv.so) ar cru .libs/libcsv.a csv-io.o ranlib .libs/libcsv.a creating libcsv.la (cd .libs && ln -s ../libcsv.la libcsv.la) Making all in text /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=compile cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/gnome/locale"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -g -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -c text-io.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/share/gnome/locale\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -g -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -c -fPIC -DPIC text-io.c -o text-io.lo cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/share/gnome/locale\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -g -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -c text-io.c -o text-io.o >/dev/null 2>&1 /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=link cc -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -g -Wall -Wpointer-arith -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o libtext.la -rpath /usr/X11R6/lib/gnumeric/plugins text-io.lo -lm -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lxpg4 mkdir .libs cc -shared -Wl,-soname -Wl,libtext.so.0 -o .libs/libtext.so.0 text-io.lo (cd .libs && ln -s libtext.so.0 libtext.so) ar cru .libs/libtext.a text-io.o ranlib .libs/libtext.a creating libtext.la (cd .libs && ln -s ../libtext.la libtext.la) Making all in python /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=compile cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I./../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/sharelocale"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/python1.5 -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c python.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I./../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/sharelocale\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/python1.5 -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c -fPIC -DPIC python.c -o python.lo cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I./../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/sharelocale\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/python1.5 -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c python.c -o python.o >/dev/null 2>&1 /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=link cc -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o libpython.la -rpath /usr/X11R6/share/gnome/gnumeric/plugins -L/usr/local/lib/python1.5/config python.lo -lpython1.5 -lreadline -ltermcap -lm -lcrypt -lm -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lxpg4 mkdir .libs cc -shared -Wl,-soname -Wl,libpython.so.0 -o .libs/libpython.so.0 python.lo (cd .libs && ln -s libpython.so.0 libpython.so) ar cru .libs/libpython.a python.o ranlib .libs/libpython.a creating libpython.la (cd .libs && ln -s ../libpython.la libpython.la) Making all in perl cc -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -DPIC -fpic -I./../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/gnome/locale"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach/CORE -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -c perl.c perl -MExtUtils::Embed -e xsinit -- -o xsinit.c cc -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -DPIC -fpic -I./../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/gnome/locale"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach/CORE -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -c xsinit.c ( cd ext ; perl Makefile.PL LIB=/usr/X11R6/share/gnome/gnumeric/perl/lib ) Unrecognized argument in LIBS ignored: '-Wl,-E' Unrecognized argument in LIBS ignored: '-Wl,-E' Writing Makefile for Gnumeric touch ext.timestamp cc -shared -o perl.so perl.o xsinit.o -Wl,-E /usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach/auto/DynaLoader/DynaLoader.a -L/usr/libdata/perl/5.00503/mach/CORE -lperl -lm -lc -lcrypt -lperl Making all in guile /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=compile cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I./../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c plugin.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I./../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/share/locale\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c -fPIC -DPIC plugin.c -o plugin.lo cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../.. -I./../../src -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\"/usr/X11R6/share/locale\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c plugin.c -o plugin.o >/dev/null 2>&1 /bin/sh ../../libtool --mode=link cc -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o libgnumguile.la -rpath /usr/X11R6/share/gnome/gnumeric/plugins plugin.lo -L/usr/local/lib -lguile -lreadline -ltermcap -lm -lm -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lxpg4 mkdir .libs cc -shared -Wl,-soname -Wl,libgnumguile.so.0 -o .libs/libgnumguile.so.0 plugin.lo (cd .libs && ln -s libgnumguile.so.0 libgnumguile.so) ar cru .libs/libgnumguile.a plugin.o ranlib .libs/libgnumguile.a creating libgnumguile.la (cd .libs && ln -s ../libgnumguile.la libgnumguile.la) Making all in src cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c main.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c normal-args.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c about.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c cell.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c cellspan.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c clipboard.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c color.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c cursors.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c dates.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c dialog-cell-comment.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c dialog-cell-format.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c dialog-goto-cell.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c dialog-insert-cells.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c dialog-define-names.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c dialog-delete-cells.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include 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-DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c widget-editable-label.c widget-editable-label.c: In function `el_button_press_event': widget-editable-label.c:255: warning: passing arg 2 of `gtk_widget_event' from incompatible pointer type cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c workbook.c cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c xml-io.c /bin/sh ../libtool --mode=link cc -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o gnumeric -export-dynamic main.o normal-args.o about.o cell.o cellspan.o clipboard.o color.o cursors.o dates.o dialog-cell-comment.o dialog-cell-format.o dialog-goto-cell.o dialog-insert-cells.o dialog-define-names.o dialog-delete-cells.o dialog-paste-special.o dialog-zoom.o dump.o eval.o expr.o file.o formats.o func.o fn-date.o fn-eng.o fn-financial.o fn-math.o fn-misc.o fn-sheet.o fn-stat.o fn-string.o format.o gnumeric-sheet.o gnumeric-util.o item-bar.o item-cursor.o item-debug.o item-edit.o item-grid.o number-match.o parser.o pattern-selector.o plugin.o plugin-manager.o render-ascii.o sheet.o sheet-autofill.o sheet-object.o sheet-view.o str.o style.o symbol.o utils.o widget-editable-label.o workbook.o xml-io.o ../plugins/excel/libexcel.a -Wl,-E -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/local/lib -Wl,-E -lXpm -ljpeg -lpng -lz -ltiff -lgif -lgnomeui -lart_lgpl -lgdk_imlib -lSM -lICE -lgtk12 -lgdk12 -lgmodule12 -lXext -lX11 -lgnome -lgnomesupport -lesd -laudiofile -lm -lglib12 -lintl -L/usr/local/lib -lxml -lz -L/usr/local/lib -lguile -lreadline -ltermcap -lm -lm -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lxpg4 mkdir .libs creating .libs/gnumericS.c extracting global C symbols from `main.o' extracting global C symbols from `normal-args.o' extracting global C symbols from `about.o' extracting global C symbols from `cell.o' extracting global C symbols from `cellspan.o' extracting global C symbols from `clipboard.o' extracting global C symbols from `color.o' extracting global C symbols from `cursors.o' extracting global C symbols from `dates.o' extracting global C symbols from `dialog-cell-comment.o' extracting global C symbols from `dialog-cell-format.o' extracting global C symbols from `dialog-goto-cell.o' extracting global C symbols from `dialog-insert-cells.o' extracting global C symbols from `dialog-define-names.o' extracting global C symbols from `dialog-delete-cells.o' extracting global C symbols from `dialog-paste-special.o' extracting global C symbols from `dialog-zoom.o' extracting global C symbols from `dump.o' extracting global C symbols from `eval.o' extracting global C symbols from `expr.o' extracting global C symbols from `file.o' extracting global C symbols from `formats.o' extracting global C symbols from `func.o' extracting global C symbols from `fn-date.o' extracting global C symbols from `fn-eng.o' extracting global C symbols from `fn-financial.o' extracting global C symbols from `fn-math.o' extracting global C symbols from `fn-misc.o' extracting global C symbols from `fn-sheet.o' extracting global C symbols from `fn-stat.o' extracting global C symbols from `fn-string.o' extracting global C symbols from `format.o' extracting global C symbols from `gnumeric-sheet.o' extracting global C symbols from `gnumeric-util.o' extracting global C symbols from `item-bar.o' extracting global C symbols from `item-cursor.o' extracting global C symbols from `item-debug.o' extracting global C symbols from `item-edit.o' extracting global C symbols from `item-grid.o' extracting global C symbols from `number-match.o' extracting global C symbols from `parser.o' extracting global C symbols from `pattern-selector.o' extracting global C symbols from `plugin.o' extracting global C symbols from `plugin-manager.o' extracting global C symbols from `render-ascii.o' extracting global C symbols from `sheet.o' extracting global C symbols from `sheet-autofill.o' extracting global C symbols from `sheet-object.o' extracting global C symbols from `sheet-view.o' extracting global C symbols from `str.o' extracting global C symbols from `style.o' extracting global C symbols from `symbol.o' extracting global C symbols from `utils.o' extracting global C symbols from `widget-editable-label.o' extracting global C symbols from `workbook.o' extracting global C symbols from `xml-io.o' extracting global C symbols from `../plugins/excel/libexcel.a' (cd .libs && cc -c -fno-builtin "gnumericS.c") cc -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -L/usr/X11R6/lib -o gnumeric .libs/gnumericS.o -Wl,--export-dynamic main.o normal-args.o about.o cell.o cellspan.o clipboard.o color.o cursors.o dates.o dialog-cell-comment.o dialog-cell-format.o dialog-goto-cell.o dialog-insert-cells.o dialog-define-names.o dialog-delete-cells.o dialog-paste-special.o dialog-zoom.o dump.o eval.o expr.o file.o formats.o func.o fn-date.o fn-eng.o fn-financial.o fn-math.o fn-misc.o fn-sheet.o fn-stat.o fn-string.o format.o gnumeric-sheet.o gnumeric-util.o item-bar.o item-cursor.o item-debug.o item-edit.o item-grid.o number-match.o parser.o pattern-selector.o plugin.o plugin-manager.o render-ascii.o sheet.o sheet-autofill.o sheet-object.o sheet-view.o str.o style.o symbol.o utils.o widget-editable-label.o workbook.o xml-io.o ../plugins/excel/libexcel.a -Wl,-E -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/local/lib -Wl,-E -lXpm -ljpeg -lpng -lz -ltiff -lgif -lgnomeui -lart_lgpl -lgdk_imlib -lSM -lICE -lgtk12 -lgdk12 -lgmodule12 -lXext -lX11 -lgnome - lgnomesupport -lesd -laudiofile -lm -lglib12 -lintl -L/usr/local/lib -lxml -lz -L/usr/local/lib -lguile -lreadline -ltermcap -lm -lm -L/usr/local/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lxpg4 cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c corba-args.c orbit-idl -I`/usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-config --datadir`/idl ./Gnumeric.idl cc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I.. -DGNOMELOCALEDIR=\""/usr/X11R6/share/locale"\" -DGNUMERIC_VERSION=\""0.18"\" -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -DNEED_GNOMESUPPORT_H -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -O -pipe -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wno-unused -c Gnumeric-impl.c Gnumeric-impl.c:12: parse error before `POA_GNOME_Table' Gnumeric-impl.c:12: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union Gnumeric-impl.c:15: parse error before `}' Gnumeric-impl.c:15: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:18: parse error before `POA_GNOME_Spreadsheet' Gnumeric-impl.c:18: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union Gnumeric-impl.c:21: parse error before `}' Gnumeric-impl.c:21: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:24: parse error before `POA_GNOME_Gnumeric' Gnumeric-impl.c:24: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union Gnumeric-impl.c:26: parse error before `}' Gnumeric-impl.c:26: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:29: parse error before `POA_GNOME_GnumericFactory' Gnumeric-impl.c:29: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union Gnumeric-impl.c:31: parse error before `}' Gnumeric-impl.c:31: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:46: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:49: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:50: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:53: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:56: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:62: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:65: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:72: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:77: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:78: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:81: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:84: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:90: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:92: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:93: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:96: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:99: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:105: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:111: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:116: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:120: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:124: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:151: parse error before `impl_GNOME_Table_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:153: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast Gnumeric-impl.c:155: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Table_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:157: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Table_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:159: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:167: parse error before `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:169: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast Gnumeric-impl.c:170: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:172: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:174: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:175: parse error before `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet_GNOME_Table_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:177: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast Gnumeric-impl.c:178: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet_GNOME_Table_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:179: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet_GNOME_Table_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:180: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:187: parse error before `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:189: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast Gnumeric-impl.c:190: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:191: parse error before `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric_GNOME_Table_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:193: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast Gnumeric-impl.c:194: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric_GNOME_Table_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:195: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric_GNOME_Table_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:196: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:197: parse error before `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric_GNOME_Spreadsheet_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:199: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast Gnumeric-impl.c:200: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric_GNOME_Spreadsheet_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:201: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric_GNOME_Spreadsheet_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:202: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:209: parse error before `impl_GNOME_GnumericFactory_epv' Gnumeric-impl.c:211: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast Gnumeric-impl.c:212: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:227: parse error before `impl_GNOME_Table_vepv' Gnumeric-impl.c:229: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast Gnumeric-impl.c:230: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Table_vepv' Gnumeric-impl.c:231: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:233: parse error before `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet_vepv' Gnumeric-impl.c:235: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast Gnumeric-impl.c:236: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet_vepv' Gnumeric-impl.c:237: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet_vepv' Gnumeric-impl.c:238: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:239: parse error before `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric_vepv' Gnumeric-impl.c:241: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast Gnumeric-impl.c:242: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric_vepv' Gnumeric-impl.c:243: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric_vepv' Gnumeric-impl.c:244: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric_vepv' Gnumeric-impl.c:245: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c:246: parse error before `impl_GNOME_GnumericFactory_vepv' Gnumeric-impl.c:248: warning: initialization makes integer from pointer without a cast Gnumeric-impl.c:249: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_GnumericFactory_vepv' Gnumeric-impl.c:250: warning: excess elements in scalar initializer after `impl_GNOME_GnumericFactory_vepv' Gnumeric-impl.c:251: warning: data definition has no type or storage class Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_GenericFactory_new': Gnumeric-impl.c:285: warning: `retval' might be used uninitialized in this function Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_GenericFactory_new_args': Gnumeric-impl.c:295: warning: `retval' might be used uninitialized in this function Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:301: parse error before `impl_GNOME_Table__create' Gnumeric-impl.c:302: warning: return-type defaults to `int' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_Table__create': Gnumeric-impl.c:303: `GNOME_Table' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:303: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once Gnumeric-impl.c:303: for each function it appears in.) Gnumeric-impl.c:303: parse error before `retval' Gnumeric-impl.c:304: `newservant' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:305: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:307: parse error before `)' Gnumeric-impl.c:310: warning: implicit declaration of function `POA_GNOME_Table__init' Gnumeric-impl.c:311: `objid' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:313: `retval' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:316: warning: control reaches end of non-void function Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:320: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_Table__destroy': Gnumeric-impl.c:323: warning: implicit declaration of function `POA_GNOME_Table__fini' Gnumeric-impl.c:323: `servant' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:323: `ev' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:327: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:328: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:332: warning: return-type defaults to `int' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_Table_get': Gnumeric-impl.c:333: `GNOME_Table_Value' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:333: `retval' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:336: warning: control reaches end of non-void function Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:339: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_Table_set': Gnumeric-impl.c:345: warning: `retval' might be used uninitialized in this function Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:351: parse error before `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet__create' Gnumeric-impl.c:352: warning: return-type defaults to `int' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet__create': Gnumeric-impl.c:353: `GNOME_Spreadsheet' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:353: parse error before `retval' Gnumeric-impl.c:354: `newservant' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:355: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:357: parse error before `)' Gnumeric-impl.c:360: warning: implicit declaration of function `POA_GNOME_Spreadsheet__init' Gnumeric-impl.c:361: `objid' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:363: `retval' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:366: warning: control reaches end of non-void function Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:370: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet__destroy': Gnumeric-impl.c:373: warning: implicit declaration of function `POA_GNOME_Spreadsheet__fini' Gnumeric-impl.c:373: `servant' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:373: `ev' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:378: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:387: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet_get_string': Gnumeric-impl.c:392: warning: `retval' might be used uninitialized in this function Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:397: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:398: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:402: warning: return-type defaults to `int' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet_get': Gnumeric-impl.c:403: `GNOME_Table_Value' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:403: `retval' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:406: warning: control reaches end of non-void function Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:409: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_Spreadsheet_set': Gnumeric-impl.c:415: warning: `retval' might be used uninitialized in this function Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:421: parse error before `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric__create' Gnumeric-impl.c:422: warning: return-type defaults to `int' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric__create': Gnumeric-impl.c:423: `GNOME_Gnumeric' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:423: parse error before `retval' Gnumeric-impl.c:424: `newservant' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:425: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:427: parse error before `)' Gnumeric-impl.c:430: warning: implicit declaration of function `POA_GNOME_Gnumeric__init' Gnumeric-impl.c:431: `objid' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:433: `retval' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:436: warning: control reaches end of non-void function Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:440: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric__destroy': Gnumeric-impl.c:443: warning: implicit declaration of function `POA_GNOME_Gnumeric__fini' Gnumeric-impl.c:443: `servant' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:443: `ev' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:447: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:448: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:452: warning: return-type defaults to `int' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric_get': Gnumeric-impl.c:453: `GNOME_Table_Value' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:453: `retval' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:456: warning: control reaches end of non-void function Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:459: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric_set': Gnumeric-impl.c:465: warning: `retval' might be used uninitialized in this function Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:471: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:480: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_Gnumeric_get_string': Gnumeric-impl.c:485: warning: `retval' might be used uninitialized in this function Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:491: parse error before `impl_GNOME_GnumericFactory__create' Gnumeric-impl.c:492: warning: return-type defaults to `int' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_GnumericFactory__create': Gnumeric-impl.c:493: `GNOME_GnumericFactory' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:493: parse error before `retval' Gnumeric-impl.c:494: `newservant' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:495: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c:497: parse error before `)' Gnumeric-impl.c:500: warning: implicit declaration of function `POA_GNOME_GnumericFactory__init' Gnumeric-impl.c:501: `objid' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:503: `retval' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:506: warning: control reaches end of non-void function Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:510: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_GnumericFactory__destroy': Gnumeric-impl.c:513: warning: implicit declaration of function `POA_GNOME_GnumericFactory__fini' Gnumeric-impl.c:513: `servant' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c:513: `ev' undeclared (first use this function) Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:518: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_GnumericFactory_supports': Gnumeric-impl.c:522: warning: `retval' might be used uninitialized in this function Gnumeric-impl.c: At top level: Gnumeric-impl.c:528: parse error before `*' Gnumeric-impl.c: In function `impl_GNOME_GnumericFactory_create_object': Gnumeric-impl.c:533: warning: `retval' might be used uninitialized in this function *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. ]0;root@brown.fas.com;/usr/ports/math/gnumericroot@brown.fas.com:/usr/ports/math/gnumeric $ Script done on Sun May 9 19:31:46 1999 Anyone have any clues? I have been trying to build this port for about 2 months now. Maybe I should just use kde, comercial license and all :-( -- Stan Brown stanb@netcom.com 843-745-3154 Westvaco Charleston SC. -- Windows 98: n. useless extension to a minor patch release for 32-bit extensions and a graphical shell for a 16-bit patch to an 8-bit operating system originally coded for a 4-bit microprocessor, written by a 2-bit company that can't stand for 1 bit of competition. - (c) 1999 Stan Brown. Redistribution via the Microsoft Network is prohibited. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 17:47:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.bby.com.au (ns.bby.com.au [192.83.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D92E14CA4 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 17:47:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by fw.bby.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) id KAA20599; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:47:14 +1000 (EST) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au(192.168.71.20) via SMTP by fw.bby.com.au, id smtpd020596; Mon May 10 00:47:09 1999 Received: from lightning (lightning [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA29248; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:47:08 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199905100047.KAA29248@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: John Polstra Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Directories disappearing with CVSUP, -stable, and SOFTUPDATE In-reply-to: Your message of Fri, 07 May 1999 09:01:14 -0700. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:47:08 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > 1. Was NFS involved in any way? Nope. NFS configured in the kernel but not running on this box. > 2. Please bracket the date when it happened as tightly as possible. > I.e., definitely after XX date, but definitely before YY date. Definitely after Apr 22 12:45 (UTC+1000) (I have some flat files in the symlinked-to dir with that date - I assume the mtime gets tweaked by CVSUP?). Definitely before Apr 28 11:22 (UTC+1000) as most the dirs in the new non-symlinked tree have that (28/5) date. Judging by the timestamps, I'd say the cvsup on 28th was the culprit because the timestamps on the dirs are 5-10 minutes apart, indicating a whole buncha processing for each dir. > 3. If anybody has the log output from the offending run, that would > really help. Alas, no more :< > 4. You didn't fiddle with that symlink around that time, did you? Nope. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun May 9 20:29:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.javanet.com (mail1.javanet.com [205.219.162.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE3B714DEC for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 20:29:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from media@mail1.nai.net) Received: from [209.150.38.84] (ct-hartford-hiper2172.javanet.com [209.150.38.174]) by mail1.javanet.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id XAA13947 for ; Sun, 9 May 1999 23:29:30 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 9 May 1999 23:29:30 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <01be98d0$5ffba760$0101a8c0@greg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" To: From: media@mail1.nai.net Subject: possible stand/install bug in 3.1-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm a newbie, and I apologize if this message is inappropriate for this forum. Following the advice of the freeBSD-questions list, I installed 3.1-STABLE-1990503 in place of 3.1-RELEASE. I installed everything over again from scratch. When I installed 3.1R, I didn't try to install the src and xf86333 distributions. This time I tried, but it didn't work. I downloaded all new files from releng3.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/spapshots/i386 and made new floppies. I am using a 133 Pentium w/64M RAM with no cd. I then booted from the floppies and went to install from my primary DOS partition. The installer told me "Unable to transfer the scontrib distribution from wd0s1" Trying again didn't work. It then told me the same thing for sggnu, setc, slib, sgames, sinclude, sliexec, etc. The installer then gave me the same message for all of the X-files. I checked the list of distribution files it couldn't transfer or extract against the contents of C:\FREEBSD\xf86333 and C:\FREEBSD\src and they are all there. When I tried to install these files after the fact the installer crashes. When I stand/install from root and go to load them I get: "Unable to transfer the scontrib distribution from wd0s1" I try again. It fails again. I choose "no" to not try again, it moves on to the next src file, tries, fails, I select "no" again, and boom: "B roken Pipe" I get a root prompt that's blind (I can't see what I'm typing). I type "shutdown -h now" and it shuts down. I reboot it and it seems the same. I've repeated this several times. Everytime the same thing happens. I have not attempted to modify the OS in any way, or have installed any ports or packages. So, I'm thinking this is a bug. THANX!! PEACE OUT :) MARK To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 2:17:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tricord.system.pl (tricord.system.pl [195.205.185.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1AFC14CB4 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 02:17:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from saper@system.pl) Received: from localhost (saper@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tricord.system.pl (SYSTEM Internet) with ESMTP id LAA25734 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:20:33 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:20:33 +0200 (MET DST) From: Marcin Cieslak To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Bad swap partition In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 7 May 1999, Jay Nelson wrote: > Another question for the developers: what symptoms would I see if a > disk block in a swap partition were bad and no more blocks could be > remapped? (Not a developer, though :) Once I was using 3.1-R on a PC with some (few) bad blocks on IDE disks, and some sectors in swap area were also suspicious. Result: Sometimes FreeBSD just freezed (under X, mostly). It never rebooted. Also an attempt to boot a system faulty disk usually caused some-kind-of-freeze-during-zillions-of-fsck complaints. But the OS was not guilty in either case. -- << Marcin Cieslak // saper@system.pl >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- SYSTEM Internet Provider http://www.system.pl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 3: 7:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from schuimpje.snt.utwente.nl (schuimpje.snt.utwente.nl [130.89.238.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0722E14DEA for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 03:07:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeroen@vangelderen.org) Received: from wit395301.student.utwente.nl ([130.89.235.121]:52484 "EHLO vangelderen.org" ident: "NO-IDENT-SERVICE[2]") by schuimpje.snt.utwente.nl with ESMTP id <8177-10583>; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:07:21 +0200 Message-ID: <3736AFE4.404A8C03@vangelderen.org> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:07:32 +0200 From: "Jeroen C. van Gelderen" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: Ruslan Ermilov , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga References: <199905092105.OAA33676@cwsys.cwsent.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: [...] > You know the strange thing about these freezes is that they don't occur > on every system. For example, I manage four 3.1R systems and a 2.2.8R > system. Three of the 3.1 systems are rock solid. The fourth one, > which also happens to have the fastest clock speed (333MHz PII in a > Dell), has frozen four times since February while I was running > tripwire 1.3 with -interactive, during phase 4 file checks, and > starting netscape, and restoring exmh2 from an icon. The system is > doing A LOT of paging at the time of the hangs. PR 8416 might hold > some promise of fixing this. I had the same problem on two of my systems (PII 300 and 450). In both cases the culprit was an overheated CPU, even though all the fans were running smoothly. Try running without the cover and/or measuring the temperature of your CPU. Cheers, Jeroen -- Jeroen C. van Gelderen - jeroen@vangelderen.org - 0xC33EDFDE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 3:38:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from andyo.prime.net (P1M12.prime.net.ua [195.64.229.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E048152D3 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 03:37:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Received: from prime.net.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by andyo.prime.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00907 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:39:10 +0300 (EET DST) Message-ID: <3736B744.30D1A2D4@prime.net.ua> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:39:02 +0300 From: =?koi8-r?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA=20=F7=2E=20=EF=CC=C5=CA=CE=C9=CB?= (Andy V. Oleynik) Reply-To: andyo@prime.net.ua Organization: =?koi8-r?Q?=ED=2D=E9=CE=C6=CF?= X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, uk, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Where is expected 3.1-R source tree cvsuped on 2.2.5 machine? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, everybody, after cvsuping source tree, ports, I've discovered, that only ports tree was created. Agains my expectation there was nothing in src subdirectory. Sup subdirectory contains all the deltas.Is this write? And against what sources will be applied cvsup's deltas? I'm running 2.2.5-R, have I cvsuped 3.1-R?. This is my cvsup-file: *default host=cvsup2.ru.FreeBSD.org *default base=/mnt/usr *default prefix=/mnt/usr *default release=cvs *default tag=RELENG_3_1 *default delete use-rel-suffix compress src-base src-bin src-contrib src-etc #src-games src-gnu src-include src-kerberosIV src-lib src-libexec src-release src-sbin src-secure src-share src-sys src-tools src-usrbin src-usrsbin *default tag=. ports-all -- Andy V. Oleynik (When U aim for perfection, U discover it's a moving target Ã80) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 4:38:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9CDD15451 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 04:38:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA01790; Mon, 10 May 1999 07:38:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.63]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA26763; Mon, 10 May 1999 07:38:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3736B744.30D1A2D4@prime.net.ua> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 07:38:47 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: (Andy V. Oleynik) Subject: RE: Where is expected 3.1-R source tree cvsuped on 2.2.5 machine Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 10-May-99 Andy V. Oleynik wrote: > Hello, everybody, > after cvsuping source tree, ports, I've discovered, > that only ports tree was created. Agains my expectation > there was nothing in src subdirectory. Sup subdirectory > contains all the deltas.Is this write? > And against what sources will be applied cvsup's deltas? > I'm running 2.2.5-R, have I cvsuped 3.1-R?. This is > my cvsup-file: > *default host=cvsup2.ru.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/mnt/usr > *default prefix=/mnt/usr > *default release=cvs > *default tag=RELENG_3_1 Just RELENG_3 no _1. > -- > Andy V. Oleynik > (When U aim for perfection, > U discover it's a moving target Ã80) --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 6:45:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fed-ef1.frb.gov (fed.frb.gov [132.200.32.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 643B214CBB for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 06:45:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from seth@freebie.dp.ny.frb.org) Received: by fed-ef1.frb.gov; id JAA12046; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:44:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from m1pmdf.frb.gov(192.168.3.38) by fed.frb.gov via smap (V4.2) id xma011201; Mon, 10 May 99 09:43:50 -0400 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 09:43:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Seth Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga III In-reply-to: <19990508101231.A44239@nuxi.com> To: obrien@NUXI.com Cc: Greg Quinlan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nope. "FreeBSD broke my CPU fan!" :) SB On Sat, 8 May 1999, David O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 11:31:11AM +0100, Greg Quinlan wrote: > > After the last reboot I opened it up while it was on... and to my horror the > > CPU fan was not running!! > > Another satisfied FreeBSD customer. :-) > > -- > -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 7: 2:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from megaweapon.zigg.com (megaweapon.zigg.com [206.114.60.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84903152E5 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 07:02:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by megaweapon.zigg.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA00535; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:02:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:02:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Behrens To: Seth Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga III In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 10 May 1999, Seth wrote: : Nope. "FreeBSD broke my CPU fan!" I found the offending lines of code in the kernel: speed = FSPEED_LUDICROUSLY_FAST; spin_cpu_fan_till_it_smells_funny(speed); Patch is attached: 124c124 < speed = FSPEED_LUDICROUSLY_FAST; --- > speed = FSPEED_MUCH_MORE_SLOWLY; :-) Matt Behrens Owner/Administrator, zigg.com Chief Engineer, Nameless IRC Network To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 7:36:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tuvok.ubi.se (tuvok.ubi.se [193.14.168.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E51714BD6 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 07:36:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from attila.raffai@intermec.com) Received: (from mail@localhost) by tuvok.ubi.se (8.8.7/8.8.7) id QAA15266 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 16:36:46 +0200 Received: from (astrid.ptc.ubi.se [10.1.12.130]) by tuvok.ubi.se via smap (V2.1) id xma015264; Mon, 10 May 99 16:36:41 +0200 Received: from chekov.eu.intermec.com by astrid.ptc.ubi.se with SMTP (1.38.193.4/16.2) id AA03055; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:37:05 +0200 Message-Id: <3736EF70.9959F103@intermec.com> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:38:40 +0000 From: Attila Raffai X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i686) X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: out of file descriptors? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cvsupd RELENG_3 to upgrade my system running 3.0-RELEASE . Make world compiled without errors but when I tried to build a new kernel I got undefined references in syscons.o so I cvsuped RELENG_3 again and made the world once more (this time I also managed to mess up my source tree, when comparing /etc with /usr/src/etc, I think). When compiling the kernel I got the same undefined references in syscons.o as the first time. Frustrated as I was I shut down the computer for that day. Now, when I boot the machine it probes the hardware and then says ":. out of file descriptors" and asks me for the shell I would like to use in single user mode. When I press return for /bin/sh I get "source not found" printed before getting the prompt. The only partition mounted is my root partition. I can still mount the other partitions manually and everything looks intact. Can someone tell me what's wrong and what to do next? Thanks, Attila To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 7:52:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shemp.palomine.net (shemp.palomine.net [205.198.88.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8FB0B1562B for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 07:52:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cjohnson@palomine.net) Received: (qmail 585 invoked by uid 1000); 10 May 1999 14:52:51 -0000 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:52:51 -0400 From: Chris Johnson To: Attila Raffai Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: out of file descriptors? Message-ID: <19990510105251.A543@palomine.net> References: <3736EF70.9959F103@intermec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <3736EF70.9959F103@intermec.com>; from Attila Raffai on Mon, May 10, 1999 at 02:38:40PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, May 10, 1999 at 02:38:40PM +0000, Attila Raffai wrote: > I cvsupd RELENG_3 to upgrade my system running > 3.0-RELEASE . > Make world compiled without errors but when I tried > to build a new kernel I got undefined references in syscons.o > so I cvsuped RELENG_3 again and made the world once > more (this time I also managed to mess up my source tree, > when comparing /etc with /usr/src/etc, I think). > When compiling the kernel I got the same undefined references > in syscons.o as the first time. Read /usr/src/UPDATING, paying particular attention to the part that refers you to http://www.freebsd.org/~yokota/sc_update.txt. The best thing to do would be to create a new kernel config file from scratch based on GENERIC and LINT. > Frustrated as I was I shut down the computer for that day. > Now, when I boot the machine it probes > the hardware and then says ":. out of file descriptors" You have /etc/rc.conf sourcing itself. Look at the bottom of the file and find where it's sourcing itself, and change it. Chris > and asks me for the shell I would like to use in single user mode. > When I press return for /bin/sh I get "source not found" > printed before getting the prompt. > The only partition mounted is my root partition. > I can still mount the other partitions manually and everything looks > intact. > > Can someone tell me what's wrong and what to do next? > > Thanks, > Attila > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 8: 2:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from angel.algonet.se (angel.algonet.se [194.213.74.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 769E614E00 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 08:02:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mal@algonet.se) Received: (qmail 21064 invoked from network); 10 May 1999 17:02:07 +0200 Received: from kairos.algonet.se (194.213.74.18) by angel.algonet.se with SMTP; 10 May 1999 17:02:07 +0200 Received: (mal@localhost) by kairos.algonet.se (8.8.8+Sun/8.6.12) id RAA03718; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:02:07 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:02:07 +0200 (MET DST) Message-Id: <199905101502.RAA03718@kairos.algonet.se> X-Authentication-Warning: kairos.algonet.se: mal set sender to mal@kairos.algonet.se using -f From: Mats Lofkvist To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: (owner-freebsd-stable-digest@FreeBSD.ORG) Subject: Re: NFS question.. References: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well, I understand the issues (or at least I think so). But I am interested in fast, working NFS implementation (which I know could exist because Linux does it) and not in explanations (system administration is not my primary job). I can trade some bit of stability for performance in case of safe/unsafe NFS write modes. Linux NFS isn't perfect either; two Sun's (Solaris 2.5.1 and 2.6 respectively) mounting filesystems from a Linux NFS server at work have continous problems with files randomly being unreadable. Upgrading the Linux server from RedHat something based on 2.0.36 to Debian something based on 2.2.6 didn't seem to make any difference. _ Mats Lofkvist mal@algonet.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 8: 7:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.cybervillage.com (www.cybervillage.com [208.13.245.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E0A8114F28 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 08:07:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eric@netdesign1.com) Received: from eric.netdesign1.com (eric.netdesign1.com [208.13.245.47]) by www.netdesign1.com (NTMail 3.03.0017/7.aasz) with ESMTP id ya050334 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:58:25 -0400 Message-ID: <002501be9af7$0c93b940$2ff50dd0@eric.netdesign1.com> From: "Eric Griff" To: Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga III Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:09:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hehe, You know, My mom just got a computer, with a AMD K6-2 400Mhz, with Win98 with the same effects (random reboots) as well as GPF's and tons of illegal operations.. Initially reconfiguring the board to 300Mhz fixed it.. On further inspection, it turns out that Window's 98 dried up all the heat sink compound on the CPU Fan->CPU Connection.. It dried it so well, that it looked like there was none on it.. So FreeBSD isn't the only hot OS, hehe. =) Eric -----Original Message----- From: Seth To: obrien@NUXI.com Cc: Greg Quinlan ; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Monday, May 10, 1999 9:37 AM Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga III >Nope. "FreeBSD broke my CPU fan!" > >:) > >SB > >On Sat, 8 May 1999, David O'Brien wrote: > >> On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 11:31:11AM +0100, Greg Quinlan wrote: >> > After the last reboot I opened it up while it was on... and to my horror the >> > CPU fan was not running!! >> >> Another satisfied FreeBSD customer. :-) >> >> -- >> -- David (obrien@NUXI.com -or- obrien@FreeBSD.org) >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >> > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 8:10:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from Homer.Web-Ex.com (homer.web-ex.com [209.54.66.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98C1614F28 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 08:10:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@web-ex.com) Received: from localhost (jim@localhost) by Homer.Web-Ex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA59825 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:10:15 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: Homer.Web-Ex.com: jim owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:10:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Cassata To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: scsi timeouts Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I am wondering if any other Buslogic BT-948 users out there are experiencing this problem. On a Dual P2 machine running up to 3.0-SNAP i had my workstations running perfect (Dual pentium at home, same card and 6 gig quantum scsi) Upon installing 3.0-RELEASE, i started to get scsi timeouts on both boxes, a la: Homer.Web-Ex.com kernel log messages: > (da0:bt0:0:0:0): CCB 0xf5544b40 - timed out > (da0:bt0:0:0:0): CCB 0xf5544b40 - timed out > bt0: No longer in timeout > swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: 0x20401, blkno: 432, size: 4096 > swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: 0x20401, blkno: 432, size: 4096 > (da0:bt0:0:0:0): CCB 0xf5542f80 - timed out > (da0:bt0:0:0:0): CCB 0xf5542f80 - timed out > bt0: No longer in timeout > swap_pager: indefinite wait buffer: device: 0x20401, blkno: 432, size: 4096 I initially contacted the developers to report a bug, which they acknowledged the 'flakiness' of the buslogic driver, and urged me to upgrade to a post 3.0-RELEASE SNAP, which I did, and kept upgrading to 3.1-RELEASE, with no resolution to the problem. The timeouts can last up to 30 seconds, freezing the machines console and Xwindows, but queueing up all kbd and mouse inputs. I am wondering since the developers acknowledged this back in (October?) if anyone has a solution for it. Thanks. Jim Cassata 516.421.6000 jim@web-ex.com Web Express 20 Broadhollow Road Suite 3011 Melville, NY 11747 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 8:12: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D771158A9 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 08:11:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA34301 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 16:12:14 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <011901be9af7$6b8301e0$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: Subject: 40 x, ATAPI CD-ROM, not detected! Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:11:45 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a friend in Australia that is trying to install 3.1-Release from CD has the following problem: 1. Boots using the BIOS option "first boot device CD-ROM drive" 2. Boots from CD OK but after going through the normal installation options... and selecting the media as CD-ROM the system comes back with CD-ROM not found!!! He has tried everything including booting from floppies! Standing on his head! And turning the machine upside-down! :) Anyone had this problem... I have not seen it before, but I do not have any 40 x ATAPI CD-ROMs! Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 8:32:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from area51.v-wave.com (area51.v-wave.com [24.108.26.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3726A1511E for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 08:32:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cwasser@v-wave.com) Received: (qmail 24579 invoked by uid 1001); 10 May 1999 15:32:42 -0000 From: cwasser@v-wave.com Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 09:32:42 -0600 (MDT) To: Greg Quinlan Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 40 x, ATAPI CD-ROM, not detected! In-Reply-To: <011901be9af7$6b8301e0$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 10 May 1999, Greg Quinlan wrote: > I have a friend in Australia that is trying to install > 3.1-Release from CD has the following problem: > > 1. Boots using the BIOS option "first boot device CD-ROM drive" > 2. Boots from CD OK but after going through the normal installation > options... and selecting the media as CD-ROM the system comes back with > CD-ROM not found!!! > I have a ASUS 40x ATAPI cdrom in my machine, here's my output: wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 flags 0xa0ffa0ff on isa wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, accel, dma, iordy acd0: drive speed 0 - 6875KB/sec, 128KB cache acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked I didn't do anything special either, just plugged 'er in and away she went. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 8:43:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31F2515868 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 08:43:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA36428 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 16:43:43 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <012c01be9afb$d1792980$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: Subject: Re: 40 x, ATAPI CD-ROM, not detected! Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:43:15 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well further to this; he's got a 24x .... same cable, same config.....(primary on the second ide controller) No problem! Works like a charm! I will get some more details... on the CD-ROM manufacturer.... This guy is no dill... he's been working with PC's since they were made from stone....or bronze or something :) (poor guy ... it is very ... very earily in the morning.... he's done an all-night-er) -----Original Message----- From: cwasser@v-wave.com To: Greg Quinlan Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: 10 May 1999 16:32 Subject: Re: 40 x, ATAPI CD-ROM, not detected! > I have a ASUS 40x ATAPI cdrom in my machine, here's my output: > >wdc1 at 0x170-0x177 irq 15 flags 0xa0ffa0ff on isa >wdc1: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, accel, dma, iordy >acd0: drive speed 0 - 6875KB/sec, 128KB cache >acd0: supported read types: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA >acd0: Audio: play, 255 volume levels >acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray >acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked > > I didn't do anything special either, just plugged 'er in and away she >went. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 9:12:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from paprika.michvhf.com (paprika.michvhf.com [209.57.60.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CC0BE14C9C for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:12:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vev@michvhf.com) Received: (qmail 12256 invoked by uid 1001); 10 May 1999 16:12:46 -0000 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:12:46 -0400 (EDT) From: Vince Vielhaber To: Greg Quinlan Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 40 x, ATAPI CD-ROM, not detected! In-Reply-To: <011901be9af7$6b8301e0$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 10 May 1999, Greg Quinlan wrote: > I have a friend in Australia that is trying to install > 3.1-Release from CD has the following problem: > > 1. Boots using the BIOS option "first boot device CD-ROM drive" > 2. Boots from CD OK but after going through the normal installation > options... and selecting the media as CD-ROM the system comes back with > CD-ROM not found!!! > > He has tried everything including booting from floppies! > Standing on his head! And turning the machine upside-down! > :) > > Anyone had this problem... I have not seen it before, but I do not have any > 40 x ATAPI CD-ROMs! The only time I've encountered that I had the CD connected as the slave with no master - which is an illegal configuration. Vince. -- ========================================================================== Vince Vielhaber -- KA8CSH email: vev@michvhf.com flame-mail: /dev/null # include TEAM-OS2 Online Campground Directory http://www.camping-usa.com Online Giftshop Superstore http://www.cloudninegifts.com ========================================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 9:29: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.clearsail.net (mail.clearsail.net [207.252.227.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC1281535D for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:28:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jason@clearsail.net) Received: from capitan (capitan.clearsail.net [208.247.217.194]) by mail.clearsail.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) with SMTP id LAA05372; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:24:43 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jason Cropper" To: "Greg Quinlan" , Subject: RE: 40 x, ATAPI CD-ROM, not detected! Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 11:24:05 -0500 Message-ID: <000f01be9b01$858f82c0$c2d9f7d0@capitan.clearsail.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <011901be9af7$6b8301e0$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We have the exact same problem with a Memorex CDROM. We are not able to install 3.1 Release at this time. If you find a solution, please pass it our way. We've tried exchanging IDE cables, moving the jumper from MASTER to CSEL, and swapping the drive with another mfg. I'm pulling my hair out. We are using an AOPEN 6b+ motherboard, but I have the same motherboard in 11 other servers and they are fine. Jason Cropper CTO ClearSail Communications Houston, TX USA > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Greg Quinlan > Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 10:12 > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: 40 x, ATAPI CD-ROM, not detected! > > > I have a friend in Australia that is trying to install > 3.1-Release from CD has the following problem: > > 1. Boots using the BIOS option "first boot device CD-ROM drive" > 2. Boots from CD OK but after going through the normal installation > options... and selecting the media as CD-ROM the system comes back with > CD-ROM not found!!! > > He has tried everything including booting from floppies! > Standing on his head! And turning the machine upside-down! > :) > > Anyone had this problem... I have not seen it before, but I do > not have any > 40 x ATAPI CD-ROMs! > > > Greg > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 9:33: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pi.yip.org (yip.org [142.154.7.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FCE51535D for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:32:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Received: from localhost (melange@localhost) by pi.yip.org (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id MAA00213; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:32:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from melange@yip.org) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:32:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Bob K X-Sender: melange@localhost To: Jason Cropper Cc: Greg Quinlan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: 40 x, ATAPI CD-ROM, not detected! In-Reply-To: <000f01be9b01$858f82c0$c2d9f7d0@capitan.clearsail.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just out of curiousity, has anyone tried making it the slave and putting a drive on the master? On Mon, 10 May 1999, Jason Cropper wrote: > We have the exact same problem with a Memorex CDROM. We are not able to > install 3.1 Release at this time. If you find a solution, please pass it > our way. We've tried exchanging IDE cables, moving the jumper from MASTER > to CSEL, and swapping the drive with another mfg. I'm pulling my hair out. > We are using an AOPEN 6b+ motherboard, but I have the same motherboard in 11 > other servers and they are fine. > > Jason Cropper > CTO > ClearSail Communications > Houston, TX USA > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Greg Quinlan > > Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 10:12 > > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: 40 x, ATAPI CD-ROM, not detected! > > > > > > I have a friend in Australia that is trying to install > > 3.1-Release from CD has the following problem: > > > > 1. Boots using the BIOS option "first boot device CD-ROM drive" > > 2. Boots from CD OK but after going through the normal installation > > options... and selecting the media as CD-ROM the system comes back with > > CD-ROM not found!!! > > > > He has tried everything including booting from floppies! > > Standing on his head! And turning the machine upside-down! > > :) > > > > Anyone had this problem... I have not seen it before, but I do > > not have any > > 40 x ATAPI CD-ROMs! > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > melange@yip.org - Napalm: Cures what ails ya To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 9:57:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C692B1561A for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 09:56:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA52882; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:56:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:56:20 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Mats Lofkvist Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: <199905101502.RAA03718@kairos.algonet.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 10 May 1999, Mats Lofkvist wrote: > > Well, I understand the issues (or at least I think so). But I am > interested in fast, working NFS implementation (which I know could exist > because Linux does it) and not in explanations (system administration is > not my primary job). I can trade some bit of stability for performance in > case of safe/unsafe NFS write modes. > > Linux NFS isn't perfect either; two Sun's (Solaris 2.5.1 and 2.6 > respectively) mounting filesystems from a Linux NFS server at work > have continous problems with files randomly being unreadable. > Upgrading the Linux server from RedHat something based on 2.0.36 > to Debian something based on 2.2.6 didn't seem to make any difference. Linux is fast because it violates the spec (this really pisses me off). The specification for NFSv2 states that the reply to a write rpc shouldn't be sent until the write has been completed. From rfc1094: All of the procedures in the NFS protocol are assumed to be synchronous. When a procedure returns to the client, the client can assume that the operation has completed and any data associated with the request is now on stable storage. For example, a client WRITE request may cause the server to update data blocks, filesystem information blocks (such as indirect blocks), and file attribute information (size and modify times). When the WRITE returns to the client, it can assume that the write is safe, even in case of a server crash, and it can discard the data written. This is a very important part of the statelessness of the server. If the server waited to flush data from remote requests, the client would have to save those requests so that it could resend them in case of a server crash. The linux server appears to ack the write as soon as it has been handed off to the kernel's buffer cache (which is certainly not stable storage). If you want FreeBSD to do this, you can set the sysctl variable vfs.nfs.async to nonzero. The default for this is off since turning it on risks data loss. Alternatively you can use NFSv3 which uses a more complex protocol which allows the server to delay the writes safely. If the linux clients can't do NFSv3, perhaps you would consider replacing them with FreeBSD clients... -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 10:20:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from drtboi.lanminds.com (drtboi.lanminds.com [207.33.49.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA7014C21 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:20:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drtboi@lmi.net) Received: by drtboi.lanminds.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3C18938306; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:20:38 +0000 (GMT) Content-Length: 1345 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3736B744.30D1A2D4@prime.net.ua> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 10:20:37 -0000 (GMT) Reply-To: todd@lmi.net Organization: LMI.net From: Todd Meister To: (Andy V. Oleynik) Subject: RE: Where is expected 3.1-R source tree cvsuped on 2.2.5 machine Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Perhaps this has been answered. Your tag is wrong. Should be: *default tag=RELENG_3 Check out: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/synching.html#CVSUP It shows the valid tags, and warns against using the wrong one. Didn't stop me from doing it once, though. -Todd On 10-May-99 Andy V. Oleynik wrote: > Hello, everybody, > after cvsuping source tree, ports, I've discovered, > that only ports tree was created. Agains my expectation > there was nothing in src subdirectory. Sup subdirectory > contains all the deltas.Is this write? > And against what sources will be applied cvsup's deltas? > I'm running 2.2.5-R, have I cvsuped 3.1-R?. This is > my cvsup-file: > *default host=cvsup2.ru.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/mnt/usr > *default prefix=/mnt/usr > *default release=cvs > *default tag=RELENG_3_1 > *default delete use-rel-suffix compress > > src-base > src-bin > src-contrib > src-etc >#src-games > src-gnu > src-include > src-kerberosIV > src-lib > src-libexec > src-release > src-sbin > src-secure > src-share > src-sys > src-tools > src-usrbin > src-usrsbin > *default tag=. > ports-all > > > -- > Andy V. Oleynik > (When U aim for perfection, > U discover it's a moving target Ã80) > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 10:56:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2509214E4E for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:56:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA41671 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:56:51 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <016701be9b0e$6a497900$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: Subject: Re: 40 x, ATAPI CD-ROM, not detected! Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:56:22 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK! This is his (mike's) solution! 40 x CD-ROM setup in the BIOS to AUTO and as the primary drive for the second ide controller. He also made sure the drive was set as master. Works fine! (Now that the installation has already been done using the 32x.) But he is still unsure whether the drive will work for the original 3.1-R installation. Poor guy spent atleast 1 hour talking to me (in the UK) from Australia via my mobile at 4.00am his time! And just wanted to go home!! -----Original Message----- From: Bob K To: Jason Cropper Cc: Greg Quinlan ; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: 10 May 1999 17:33 Subject: RE: 40 x, ATAPI CD-ROM, not detected! >Just out of curiousity, has anyone tried making it the slave and putting a >drive on the master? > >On Mon, 10 May 1999, Jason Cropper wrote: > >> We have the exact same problem with a Memorex CDROM. We are not able to >> install 3.1 Release at this time. If you find a solution, please pass it >> our way. We've tried exchanging IDE cables, moving the jumper from MASTER >> to CSEL, and swapping the drive with another mfg. I'm pulling my hair out. >> We are using an AOPEN 6b+ motherboard, but I have the same motherboard in 11 >> other servers and they are fine. >> >> Jason Cropper >> CTO >> ClearSail Communications >> Houston, TX USA >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG >> > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Greg Quinlan >> > Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 10:12 >> > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG >> > Subject: 40 x, ATAPI CD-ROM, not detected! >> > >> > >> > I have a friend in Australia that is trying to install >> > 3.1-Release from CD has the following problem: >> > >> > 1. Boots using the BIOS option "first boot device CD-ROM drive" >> > 2. Boots from CD OK but after going through the normal installation >> > options... and selecting the media as CD-ROM the system comes back with >> > CD-ROM not found!!! >> > >> > He has tried everything including booting from floppies! >> > Standing on his head! And turning the machine upside-down! >> > :) >> > >> > Anyone had this problem... I have not seen it before, but I do >> > not have any >> > 40 x ATAPI CD-ROMs! >> > >> > >> > Greg >> > >> > >> > >> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >> > >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >> > >melange@yip.org - Napalm: Cures what ails ya > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 10:59:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from crydee.sai.msu.ru (crydee.sai.msu.ru [195.208.220.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31EEF150BE for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 10:59:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Received: from localhost (asv1@localhost) by crydee.sai.msu.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA05561; Mon, 10 May 1999 21:01:11 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 21:01:11 +0400 (MSD) From: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" To: Doug Rabson Cc: Mats Lofkvist , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 10 May 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: > > Well, I understand the issues (or at least I think so). But I am > > interested in fast, working NFS implementation (which I know could exist > > because Linux does it) and not in explanations (system administration is > > not my primary job). I can trade some bit of stability for performance in > > case of safe/unsafe NFS write modes. > > Linux is fast because it violates the spec (this really pisses me off). Specification violation only affects server, right? Therefore I don't see anything terribly wrong with loose play with specs on server to get reasonable performance. Especially with such a poor design as NFSv2. > The specification for NFSv2 states that the reply to a write rpc shouldn't > be sent until the write has been completed. From rfc1094: [skipped] > The linux server appears to ack the write as soon as it has been handed > off to the kernel's buffer cache (which is certainly not stable storage). > If you want FreeBSD to do this, you can set the sysctl variable > vfs.nfs.async to nonzero. The default for this is off since turning it on > risks data loss. I have tried it now. Performance numbers are below. Client is OS/2 NFS, with rsize and wsize of 8192. NFSD Host OS Network Throughput, KB/s Comments speed Read Write FreeBSD 3.1 100 4500 610 ! vfs.nfs.async=1 FreeBSD 3.1 100 550 vfs.nfs.async=0 FTP->FreeBSD 100 6000 3000 FreeBSD 3.1 10 1040 560 vfs.nfs.async=1 FreeBSD 3.1 10 330 vfs.nfs.async=0 Linux 10 1020 800 ! Solaris 7 (i386) 10 900 480 100Mbit segment is clean (it's just a crossover cable, actually) while 10Mbit segment is more or less loaded. As you see, there's no significant performance improvement with vfs.nfs.async=1 (BTW, where can I find the information about all sysctl variables?) The figure 4500KB/s on read apparently involves disk cache because hard drive itself can't sustain it. FTP read is only 6MB/s due to OS/2 TCP/IP stack limitations and measuring problems (the file I was testing on is just 12MB). FTP write is limited by both local read and remote write. > Alternatively you can use NFSv3 which uses a more complex protocol which > allows the server to delay the writes safely. If the linux clients can't > do NFSv3, perhaps you would consider replacing them with FreeBSD > clients... I have DOS and OS/2 clients, and I can't change that, unfortunately. While performance for DOS clients is more or less acceptable (they are not very fast machines anyway), I am concerned about OS/2 client performance. Windoze clients connect to Samba which unfortunately is also very slow on writes for unknown reasons, but that's another thread... --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Sergey Ayukov Sternberg Astronomical Institute http://www.ayukov.com Moscow, Russia http://crydee.sai.msu.ru/index-asv.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 11: 7:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92F6115B4B for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:06:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA53417; Mon, 10 May 1999 19:06:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:06:30 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" Cc: Mats Lofkvist , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 10 May 1999, Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists) wrote: > On Mon, 10 May 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: > > > > Well, I understand the issues (or at least I think so). But I am > > > interested in fast, working NFS implementation (which I know could exist > > > because Linux does it) and not in explanations (system administration is > > > not my primary job). I can trade some bit of stability for performance in > > > case of safe/unsafe NFS write modes. > > > > Linux is fast because it violates the spec (this really pisses me off). > > Specification violation only affects server, right? Therefore I don't see > anything terribly wrong with loose play with specs on server to get > reasonable performance. Especially with such a poor design as NFSv2. It all depends on the value which you place on the data which the clients are writing. > > > The specification for NFSv2 states that the reply to a write rpc shouldn't > > be sent until the write has been completed. From rfc1094: > > [skipped] > > > The linux server appears to ack the write as soon as it has been handed > > off to the kernel's buffer cache (which is certainly not stable storage). > > If you want FreeBSD to do this, you can set the sysctl variable > > vfs.nfs.async to nonzero. The default for this is off since turning it on > > risks data loss. > > I have tried it now. Performance numbers are below. Client is OS/2 NFS, > with rsize and wsize of 8192. > > NFSD Host OS Network Throughput, KB/s Comments > speed Read Write > FreeBSD 3.1 100 4500 610 ! vfs.nfs.async=1 > FreeBSD 3.1 100 550 vfs.nfs.async=0 > FTP->FreeBSD 100 6000 3000 > FreeBSD 3.1 10 1040 560 vfs.nfs.async=1 > FreeBSD 3.1 10 330 vfs.nfs.async=0 > Linux 10 1020 800 ! > Solaris 7 (i386) 10 900 480 > > 100Mbit segment is clean (it's just a crossover cable, actually) while > 10Mbit segment is more or less loaded. As you see, there's no significant > performance improvement with vfs.nfs.async=1 (BTW, where can I find the > information about all sysctl variables?) The figure 4500KB/s on read > apparently involves disk cache because hard drive itself can't sustain it. > FTP read is only 6MB/s due to OS/2 TCP/IP stack limitations and measuring > problems (the file I was testing on is just 12MB). FTP write is limited by > both local read and remote write. Could I have a copy of your test program? The 100Mbit performance ought to be better than this. > > > Alternatively you can use NFSv3 which uses a more complex protocol which > > allows the server to delay the writes safely. If the linux clients can't > > do NFSv3, perhaps you would consider replacing them with FreeBSD > > clients... > > I have DOS and OS/2 clients, and I can't change that, unfortunately. While > performance for DOS clients is more or less acceptable (they are not very > fast machines anyway), I am concerned about OS/2 client performance. > Windoze clients connect to Samba which unfortunately is also very slow on > writes for unknown reasons, but that's another thread... I would have thought the OS/2 client could use SMB. I thought the performance of samba was pretty good on FreeBSD. Perhaps it could be tuned a bit (samba has a boatload of tuning parameters). -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 11:20:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from andyo.prime.net (P1M10.prime.net.ua [195.64.229.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C41115B8D for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:19:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Received: from prime.net.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by andyo.prime.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA00523 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 21:20:29 +0300 (EET DST) Message-ID: <3737235D.A4B782DA@prime.net.ua> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 21:20:14 +0300 From: =?koi8-r?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA=20=F7=2E=20=EF=CC=C5=CA=CE=C9=CB?= (Andy V. Oleynik) Reply-To: andyo@prime.net.ua Organization: =?koi8-r?Q?=ED=2D=E9=CE=C6=CF?= X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, uk, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Where is expected 3.1-R source tree cvsuped on 2.2.5 machine References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thank U. guys, it works. One more question: Should I make aaou-to-elf before the "make world", etc. Any tips? John Baldwin wrote: > On 10-May-99 Andy V. Oleynik wrote: > > Hello, everybody, > > after cvsuping source tree, ports, I've discovered, > > that only ports tree was created. Agains my expectation > > there was nothing in src subdirectory. Sup subdirectory > > contains all the deltas.Is this write? > > And against what sources will be applied cvsup's deltas? > > I'm running 2.2.5-R, have I cvsuped 3.1-R?. This is > > my cvsup-file: > > *default host=cvsup2.ru.FreeBSD.org > > *default base=/mnt/usr > > *default prefix=/mnt/usr > > *default release=cvs > > *default tag=RELENG_3_1 > > Just RELENG_3 no _1. > > > -- > > Andy V. Oleynik > > (When U aim for perfection, > > U discover it's a moving target Ã80) > > --- > > John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ > PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc > "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Andy V. Oleynik (When U aim for perfection, U discover it's a moving target ö80) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 11:39:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from crydee.sai.msu.ru (crydee.sai.msu.ru [195.208.220.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0377E14ED1 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 11:39:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Received: from localhost (asv1@localhost) by crydee.sai.msu.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA05676; Mon, 10 May 1999 21:41:47 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 21:41:46 +0400 (MSD) From: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" To: Doug Rabson Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 10 May 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: > > > > Well, I understand the issues (or at least I think so). But I am > > > > interested in fast, working NFS implementation (which I know could exist > > > > because Linux does it) and not in explanations (system administration is > > > > not my primary job). I can trade some bit of stability for performance in > > > > case of safe/unsafe NFS write modes. > > > > > > Linux is fast because it violates the spec (this really pisses me off). > > > > Specification violation only affects server, right? Therefore I don't see > > anything terribly wrong with loose play with specs on server to get > > reasonable performance. Especially with such a poor design as NFSv2. > > It all depends on the value which you place on the data which the clients > are writing. Yes, sure. In ideal case, I would love to mount some directories with less reliable settings and some with more reliable... This reminds me about ages long discussion on whether writes should be cached at all (it was thriving when DOS Smartdrive finally got an option to enable write caching). My opinion is that they should be cached. After all, it is impossible to get good performance out of NFSv2 when not doing write caching. Whether you will rely on UPS or just pray for data to be safe is another question. > > > The specification for NFSv2 states that the reply to a write rpc shouldn't > > > be sent until the write has been completed. From rfc1094: > > > > [skipped] > > > > > The linux server appears to ack the write as soon as it has been handed > > > off to the kernel's buffer cache (which is certainly not stable storage). > > > If you want FreeBSD to do this, you can set the sysctl variable > > > vfs.nfs.async to nonzero. The default for this is off since turning it on > > > risks data loss. > > > > I have tried it now. Performance numbers are below. Client is OS/2 NFS, > > with rsize and wsize of 8192. > > > > NFSD Host OS Network Throughput, KB/s Comments > > speed Read Write > > FreeBSD 3.1 100 4500 610 ! vfs.nfs.async=1 > > FreeBSD 3.1 100 550 vfs.nfs.async=0 > > FTP->FreeBSD 100 6000 3000 > > FreeBSD 3.1 10 1040 560 vfs.nfs.async=1 > > FreeBSD 3.1 10 330 vfs.nfs.async=0 > > Linux 10 1020 800 ! > > Solaris 7 (i386) 10 900 480 > > > > 100Mbit segment is clean (it's just a crossover cable, actually) while > > 10Mbit segment is more or less loaded. As you see, there's no significant > > performance improvement with vfs.nfs.async=1 (BTW, where can I find the > > information about all sysctl variables?) The figure 4500KB/s on read > > apparently involves disk cache because hard drive itself can't sustain it. > > FTP read is only 6MB/s due to OS/2 TCP/IP stack limitations and measuring > > problems (the file I was testing on is just 12MB). FTP write is limited by > > both local read and remote write. > > Could I have a copy of your test program? The 100Mbit performance ought to > be better than this. Test program is File Commander for OS/2, available from many places, e.g. ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/incoming/fc2_210.zip > > > Alternatively you can use NFSv3 which uses a more complex protocol which > > > allows the server to delay the writes safely. If the linux clients can't > > > do NFSv3, perhaps you would consider replacing them with FreeBSD > > > clients... > > > > I have DOS and OS/2 clients, and I can't change that, unfortunately. While > > performance for DOS clients is more or less acceptable (they are not very > > fast machines anyway), I am concerned about OS/2 client performance. > > Windoze clients connect to Samba which unfortunately is also very slow on > > writes for unknown reasons, but that's another thread... > > I would have thought the OS/2 client could use SMB. I thought the > performance of samba was pretty good on FreeBSD. Perhaps it could be tuned > a bit (samba has a boatload of tuning parameters). I don't know why I am having such a bad luck with FreeBSD, but I am only getting about 300KB/s on writes over 10MBit network while exchange between Windoze machines yields about 900KB/s. Someday I will try SMB client on OS/2, but I was pretty happy with NFS -- until I switched to FreeBSD. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Sergey Ayukov Sternberg Astronomical Institute http://www.ayukov.com Moscow, Russia http://crydee.sai.msu.ru/index-asv.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 12:10:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E84BA15AF0 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:10:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA54012; Mon, 10 May 1999 20:09:43 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 20:09:43 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 10 May 1999, Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists) wrote: > On Mon, 10 May 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: > > > > It all depends on the value which you place on the data which the clients > > are writing. > > Yes, sure. In ideal case, I would love to mount some directories with less > reliable settings and some with more reliable... This reminds me about > ages long discussion on whether writes should be cached at all (it was > thriving when DOS Smartdrive finally got an option to enable write > caching). My opinion is that they should be cached. After all, it is > impossible to get good performance out of NFSv2 when not doing write > caching. Whether you will rely on UPS or just pray for data to be safe is > another question. The data is cached (subsequent reads will come from the cache). I don't expect FreeBSD's defaults to change on this since it does violate the spec and a much better (safer) fix is to use NFSv3. > > Could I have a copy of your test program? The 100Mbit performance ought to > > be better than this. > > Test program is File Commander for OS/2, available from many places, e.g. > ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/incoming/fc2_210.zip Hmm. Not too useful to me since I don't run OS/2. I wonder what sized requests are made by the OS/2 NFS client. That can affect performance considerably. Without knowing the pattern of NFS calls the test makes, it is impossible to speculate on what is causing the performance loss. > > I would have thought the OS/2 client could use SMB. I thought the > > performance of samba was pretty good on FreeBSD. Perhaps it could be tuned > > a bit (samba has a boatload of tuning parameters). > > I don't know why I am having such a bad luck with FreeBSD, but I am only > getting about 300KB/s on writes over 10MBit network while exchange between > Windoze machines yields about 900KB/s. Someday I will try SMB client on > OS/2, but I was pretty happy with NFS -- until I switched to FreeBSD. Try reading the Samba documentation (in the docs/textdocs subdirectory of the samba source code). -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 12:12:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DCB11594C for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:12:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id MAA25437; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:13:24 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda25435; Mon May 10 12:13:18 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA34150; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:12:13 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905101912.MAA34150@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> Received: from localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "passer.osg.gov.bc.ca" via SMTP by localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdm28371; Mon May 10 12:11:29 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE X-Sender: cschuber To: Mike Tancsa Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 09 May 1999 17:47:57 EDT." <4.1.19990509174640.0534ef10@granite.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:11:28 -0700 From: Cy Schubert Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I remember trying this exploit about a month ago when it was first announced. It locked the system up solid within seconds. After applying the patches from PR 8416 I currently have four copies of find and one tripwire running for over an hour and a half, with no hang. The patches from PR 8416 appear to have fixed the hang. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" In message <4.1.19990509174640.0534ef10@granite.sentex.ca>, Mike Tancsa writes: > At 05:05 PM 5/9/99 , Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > > >In message <19990507220718.B31932@relay.ucb.crimea.ua>, Ruslan Ermilov > >writes: > >> Just FYI: > >> > >> $ uname -r; uptime > >> 2.2.1-RELEASE > >> 10:02PM up 115 days, 5:57, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.09, 0.14 > >> (last reboot was due to ) > >> > >> $ uname -r; uptime > >> 3.1-STABLE > >> 10:02PM up 8 days, 11:07, 6 users, load averages: 0.27, 0.17, 0.11 > >> (last reboot was due to system freeze) > > > >You know the strange thing about these freezes is that they don't occur > >on every system. For example, I manage four 3.1R systems and a 2.2.8R > >system. Three of the 3.1 systems are rock solid. The fourth one, > >which also happens to have the fastest clock speed (333MHz PII in a > >Dell), has frozen four times since February while I was running > >tripwire 1.3 with -interactive, during phase 4 file checks, and > >starting netscape, and restoring exmh2 from an icon. The system is > >doing A LOT of paging at the time of the hangs. PR 8416 might hold > >some promise of fixing this. > > Perhaps its related to the mmap bug.. I think I have been hit by it once on > one of my systems... > > e.g. > find / -type f -exec grep zztop "{}" \; & > find / -type f -exec grep zztop "{}" \; & > > will lock a 3.x box solid. > > ---Mike > ********************************************************************** > Mike Tancsa, Network Admin * mike@sentex.net > Sentex Communications Corp, * http://www.sentex.net/mike > Cambridge, Ontario * 01.519.651.3400 > Canada * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 12:20:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15CB714E37 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:20:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA19431; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:20:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990510151933.017f1b90@staff.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@staff.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:19:33 -0400 To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Mike Tancsa Subject: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 (was Re: Strange reboot saga ) Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199905101912.MAA34150@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 12:11 PM 5/10/99 -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: >I remember trying this exploit about a month ago when it was first >announced. It locked the system up solid within seconds. After >applying the patches from PR 8416 I currently have four copies of >find and one tripwire running for over an hour and a half, with no >hang. The patches from PR 8416 appear to have fixed the hang. That is most excellent... Is there any reason why this patch has not been applied to the tree ? i.e. does it have any adverse side effects preventing it from being committed ? ---Mike >In message <4.1.19990509174640.0534ef10@granite.sentex.ca>, Mike >Tancsa writes: >> At 05:05 PM 5/9/99 , Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: >> > >> >In message <19990507220718.B31932@relay.ucb.crimea.ua>, Ruslan Ermilov >> >writes: >> >> Just FYI: >> >> >> >> $ uname -r; uptime >> >> 2.2.1-RELEASE >> >> 10:02PM up 115 days, 5:57, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.09, 0.14 >> >> (last reboot was due to ) >> >> >> >> $ uname -r; uptime >> >> 3.1-STABLE >> >> 10:02PM up 8 days, 11:07, 6 users, load averages: 0.27, 0.17, 0.11 >> >> (last reboot was due to system freeze) >> > >> >You know the strange thing about these freezes is that they don't occur >> >on every system. For example, I manage four 3.1R systems and a 2.2.8R >> >system. Three of the 3.1 systems are rock solid. The fourth one, >> >which also happens to have the fastest clock speed (333MHz PII in a >> >Dell), has frozen four times since February while I was running >> >tripwire 1.3 with -interactive, during phase 4 file checks, and >> >starting netscape, and restoring exmh2 from an icon. The system is >> >doing A LOT of paging at the time of the hangs. PR 8416 might hold >> >some promise of fixing this. >> >> Perhaps its related to the mmap bug.. I think I have been hit by it once on >> one of my systems... >> >> e.g. >> find / -type f -exec grep zztop "{}" \; & >> find / -type f -exec grep zztop "{}" \; & >> >> will lock a 3.x box solid. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 12:46:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from boom.firecracker.com (opscntr.dbq.mwci.net [209.207.4.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D742C1569B for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:45:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jbutt@mwci.net) Received: from opscntr.dbq.mwci.net (opscntr.dbq.mwci.net [209.207.4.33]) by boom.firecracker.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id OAA00378 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:39:57 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jbutt@mwci.net) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:39:56 -0500 (CDT) From: "James D. Butt 'J.D'" X-Sender: jbutt@boom.firecracker.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serial Console does it work?? (Plea for help) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have spent quite a while looking at this serial console issue.. I guess it would be helpfull to know if anyone out their *has* been able to get a serial console working with 3.1-Stable?? If you would you *PLEASE* let me know as I am about to start ripping into the code further to find the problem...(and from what I can tell from the code I do not have a config problem but more it is just broken) Thank You.. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- James D. Butt 'J.D.' jbutt@mwci.net - jbutt@firecracker.com MidWest Communications, Inc. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 12:52:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610FA152A4 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:52:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00818; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:50:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905101950.MAA00818@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "James D. Butt 'J.D'" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serial Console does it work?? (Plea for help) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 May 1999 14:39:56 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:50:41 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I have spent quite a while looking at this serial console issue.. > > I guess it would be helpfull to know if anyone out their *has* been able > to get a serial console working with 3.1-Stable?? > > If you would you *PLEASE* let me know as I am about to start ripping into > the code further to find the problem...(and from what I can tell from the > code I do not have a config problem but more it is just broken) You have a config problem; it works just fine. At a guess, I'd say you have forgotten to set the flags on your desired serial console device. You may also have forgotten to put -P in /boot.config, and you might have forgotten to turn on the getty in /etc/ttys. -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 12:57: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFFA815E7C for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:56:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id PAA28780; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:56:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990510155612.01a7a100@staff.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@staff.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:56:12 -0400 To: "James D. Butt 'J.D'" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Serial Console does it work?? (Plea for help) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >I guess it would be helpfull to know if anyone out their *has* been able >to get a serial console working with 3.1-Stable?? Cant help you in 3.x, but I do use it regularly in 2.2.x... If it helps, I can dig up the config I have on the two ends for that. ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 12:58:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop.uniserve.com (pop.uniserve.com [204.244.156.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AEA0915BE7 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:58:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from shell.uniserve.ca [204.244.186.218] by pop.uniserve.com with smtp (Exim 1.82 #4) id 10gwBt-0001lz-00; Mon, 10 May 1999 12:58:17 -0700 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 12:58:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@shell.uniserve.ca To: "James D. Butt 'J.D'" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serial Console does it work?? (Plea for help) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 10 May 1999, James D. Butt 'J.D' wrote: > I have spent quite a while looking at this serial console issue.. I saw your old e-mail. It seems that your configuring the serial console the very old way. You don't need to recompile either the kernel or the boot blocks, as both support it by default now. You basically just need to put the correct flags into /boot.config and start a getty and you are done. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 13:18:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (lazlo.steam.com [199.108.84.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 305F514BF5 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:18:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cliff@steam.com) Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com [192.168.32.2]) by lazlo.internal.steam.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA05915; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:17:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:17:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Skolnick X-Sender: cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com To: Mike Tancsa Cc: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 (was Re: Strange reboot saga ) In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990510151933.017f1b90@staff.sentex.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It seems to have solved my deadlock problems. I'm running w/o it now, ready to try to go into the debugger after the next lockup. I'm expecting it within a few hours. Cliff On Mon, 10 May 1999, Mike Tancsa wrote: > At 12:11 PM 5/10/99 -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: > >I remember trying this exploit about a month ago when it was first > >announced. It locked the system up solid within seconds. After > >applying the patches from PR 8416 I currently have four copies of > >find and one tripwire running for over an hour and a half, with no > >hang. The patches from PR 8416 appear to have fixed the hang. > > > That is most excellent... Is there any reason why this patch has not been > applied to the tree ? i.e. does it have any adverse side effects > preventing it from being committed ? > > ---Mike > > > >In message <4.1.19990509174640.0534ef10@granite.sentex.ca>, Mike > >Tancsa writes: > >> At 05:05 PM 5/9/99 , Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > >> > > >> >In message <19990507220718.B31932@relay.ucb.crimea.ua>, Ruslan Ermilov > >> >writes: > >> >> Just FYI: > >> >> > >> >> $ uname -r; uptime > >> >> 2.2.1-RELEASE > >> >> 10:02PM up 115 days, 5:57, 1 user, load averages: 0.00, 0.09, 0.14 > >> >> (last reboot was due to ) > >> >> > >> >> $ uname -r; uptime > >> >> 3.1-STABLE > >> >> 10:02PM up 8 days, 11:07, 6 users, load averages: 0.27, 0.17, 0.11 > >> >> (last reboot was due to system freeze) > >> > > >> >You know the strange thing about these freezes is that they don't occur > >> >on every system. For example, I manage four 3.1R systems and a 2.2.8R > >> >system. Three of the 3.1 systems are rock solid. The fourth one, > >> >which also happens to have the fastest clock speed (333MHz PII in a > >> >Dell), has frozen four times since February while I was running > >> >tripwire 1.3 with -interactive, during phase 4 file checks, and > >> >starting netscape, and restoring exmh2 from an icon. The system is > >> >doing A LOT of paging at the time of the hangs. PR 8416 might hold > >> >some promise of fixing this. > >> > >> Perhaps its related to the mmap bug.. I think I have been hit by it once on > >> one of my systems... > >> > >> e.g. > >> find / -type f -exec grep zztop "{}" \; & > >> find / -type f -exec grep zztop "{}" \; & > >> > >> will lock a 3.x box solid. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 > Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net > Sentex Communications www.sentex.net > Cambridge, Ontario Canada > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain Steam Tunnel Operations | a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty cliff@steam.com | nor safety." http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 13:22: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from boom.firecracker.com (opscntr.dbq.mwci.net [209.207.4.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8833215832 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:21:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jbutt@mwci.net) Received: from opscntr.dbq.mwci.net (opscntr.dbq.mwci.net [209.207.4.33]) by boom.firecracker.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id PAA02181; Mon, 10 May 1999 15:16:15 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jbutt@mwci.net) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 15:16:15 -0500 (CDT) From: "James D. Butt 'J.D'" X-Sender: jbutt@boom.firecracker.com To: mike@smith.net.au, Tom Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Serial Console does it work?? (Plea for help) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I have spent quite a while looking at this serial console issue.. > > I saw your old e-mail. It seems that your configuring the serial > console the very old way. You don't need to recompile either the kernel > or the boot blocks, as both support it by default now. You basically just > need to put the correct flags into /boot.config and start a getty and you > are done. If the cause is some simple config issue I am very sorrt for wasting peoples time but I am not preceiving it as that because I have even had other people here look at this (as a sanity check) and we can still not get it work work) Thank You in advance.. /boot.config contains -D -h (though I have tried -P but I can not use it because the paticular bios I have does not support booting without a keyboard ..grr..) My kernel config file device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" flags 0x20 tty irq 4 Snipit from ttys.. console "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure the above line was added by installing the comconsole port.. # #cuaa0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure I can get a login to spawn if I uncomment the above line.. In all past 2.2.x releases I was able to use ttyd0 instead of cuaa0?? Seems strange but hey... When the boot loader loads I am able to use the serial console to set options ect.. but when it loads the kernel for what ever reason it reverts back to the vga... (But I will eventually get the console prompt) Am I incorrect to assume that the old FORCE_COMCONSOLE back in 2.2.x releases would not show anything on VGA but the boot loader and the the login prompt (aka the output of device probes ect are sent to the serial port (and most importantly when a boot fails because of file system problems you can fsck the drives manualy) is not how the current serial console works?? I have set this up a ton of times with 2.2.x releases... -------------------------------------------------------------------------- James D. Butt 'J.D.' jbutt@mwci.net - jbutt@firecracker.com MidWest Communications, Inc. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 13:28: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from satty.npi.msu.su (satty.npi.msu.su [158.250.20.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE08114DDF for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:27:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@zippy.machaon.ru) Received: from zippy.machaon.ru (ws-134.machaon.ru [195.230.75.134] (may be forged)) by satty.npi.msu.su (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA16292; Tue, 11 May 1999 00:27:49 +0400 (MSD) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 00:27:48 +0400 (MSD) From: Dmitry Khrustalev To: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I don't know why I am having such a bad luck with FreeBSD, but I am only > getting about 300KB/s on writes over 10MBit network while exchange between > Windoze machines yields about 900KB/s. Someday I will try SMB client on > OS/2, but I was pretty happy with NFS -- until I switched to FreeBSD. > Another thing to try is to turn off write gathering - it can interact poorly with clients that write one block at a time instead of having multiple outstanding writes. You can check if write gathering is being effective using nfsstat, look for Opsaved number. The knob is vfs.nfs.gatherdelay, set it to 0. -Dima To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 13:31:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED6314DDF for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:31:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA01059; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:28:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199905102028.NAA01059@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: "James D. Butt 'J.D'" Cc: mike@smith.net.au, Tom , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Serial Console does it work?? (Plea for help) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 May 1999 15:16:15 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:28:49 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > /boot.config contains > > -D -h > > (though I have tried -P but I can not use it because the paticular bios I > have does not support booting without a keyboard ..grr..) Get a new board. 8) > My kernel config file > device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" flags 0x20 tty irq 4 That should be 0x10. The 'force' flag only exists to allow you to select between multiple candidate devices. > #cuaa0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" vt100 on secure > I can get a login to spawn if I uncomment the above line.. In all past > 2.2.x releases I was able to use ttyd0 instead of cuaa0?? Seems strange > but hey... We use ttyd0 on the freebsd.org cluster. It Just Works. freefall:~>grep ttyd0 /etc/ttys ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup on secure -- \\ Sometimes you're ahead, \\ Mike Smith \\ sometimes you're behind. \\ mike@smith.net.au \\ The race is long, and in the \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ end it's only with yourself. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 13:31:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2EBC14DDF for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:31:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id QAA07804; Mon, 10 May 1999 16:31:42 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990510163104.01a7b100@staff.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@staff.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 16:31:04 -0400 To: Cliff Skolnick From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 (was Re: Strange reboot saga ) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.5.32.19990510151933.017f1b90@staff.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 01:17 PM 5/10/99 -0700, Cliff Skolnick wrote: > >It seems to have solved my deadlock problems. I'm running w/o it now, ready >to try to go into the debugger after the next lockup. I'm expecting it >within a few hours. You mean, find / -type f -exec grep whatever "{}" \; & find / -type f -exec grep whatever "{}" \; & does not lock up your system right away ? I can do it on a number of my 3.x systems here and it locks them right away. I never had to wait a few hours for it to happen. FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE #0: Fri May 7 06:54:06 EDT 1999 for example dies within seconds. Or do you mean you are running with the patche as opposed to without ? ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 13:31:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (lazlo.steam.com [199.108.84.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87DFA15AAA for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:31:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cliff@steam.com) Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com [192.168.32.2]) by lazlo.internal.steam.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06181; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:30:47 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:30:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Skolnick X-Sender: cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com To: "James D. Butt 'J.D'" Cc: mike@smith.net.au, Tom , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Serial Console does it work?? (Plea for help) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 10 May 1999, James D. Butt 'J.D' wrote: > My kernel config file > device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" flags 0x20 tty irq 4 my flags are 0x30, and it is working :) I have the console line in /etc/ttys "off" and ttyd0 "/usr/libexec/getty std.9600" dialup on secure -- Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain Steam Tunnel Operations | a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty cliff@steam.com | nor safety." http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 13:37:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (lazlo.steam.com [199.108.84.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14E5115DDF for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:37:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cliff@steam.com) Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com [192.168.32.2]) by lazlo.internal.steam.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06218; Mon, 10 May 1999 13:37:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 13:37:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Skolnick X-Sender: cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com To: Mike Tancsa Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 (was Re: Strange reboot saga ) In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990510163104.01a7b100@staff.sentex.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had been finding my system in deadlock (kernel running, responding to pings, but unable to do any user level stuff). My system was swapping, but not a hell of a lot, and doing a bunch of file access. It looked like a disk or a vm thing, and the PR sounded like it fit. So I applied the patch and it has seemed to help. It's only been a few days, so I'm not willing to say it has been fixed 100%. Cliff On Mon, 10 May 1999, Mike Tancsa wrote: > At 01:17 PM 5/10/99 -0700, Cliff Skolnick wrote: > > > >It seems to have solved my deadlock problems. I'm running w/o it now, ready > >to try to go into the debugger after the next lockup. I'm expecting it > >within a few hours. > > You mean, > > find / -type f -exec grep whatever "{}" \; & > find / -type f -exec grep whatever "{}" \; & > > does not lock up your system right away ? I can do it on a number of my > 3.x systems here and it locks them right away. I never had to wait a few > hours for it to happen. FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE #0: Fri May 7 06:54:06 EDT 1999 > for example dies within seconds. Or do you mean you are running with the > patche as opposed to without ? > > ---Mike > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 > Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net > Sentex Communications www.sentex.net > Cambridge, Ontario Canada > -- Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain Steam Tunnel Operations | a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty cliff@steam.com | nor safety." http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 14: 5:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail0.mia.bellsouth.net (mail0.mia.bellsouth.net [205.152.16.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C6BE1561A for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:05:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from otter@gil.net) Received: from gil.net ([216.76.208.137]) by mail0.mia.bellsouth.net (8.8.8-spamdog/8.8.5) with ESMTP id RAA06559; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:04:54 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <37374A0D.9F95E72D@gil.net> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:05:18 -0400 From: Chris Holden X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: andyo@prime.net.ua Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Where is expected 3.1-R source tree cvsuped on 2.2.5 machine? References: <3736B744.30D1A2D4@prime.net.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG yep. you just cvsupped to 3, by using the RELENG_3 tag. as for using these ports, you should look in to the "upgrade" pacakge which will allow you to use the 2.x os with the 3.x ports. the location of these ports will be in /usr/ports. -Otter áÎÄÒÅÊ ÷. ïÌÅÊÎÉË (Andy V. Oleynik) wrote: > Hello, everybody, > after cvsuping source tree, ports, I've discovered, > that only ports tree was created. Agains my expectation > there was nothing in src subdirectory. Sup subdirectory > contains all the deltas.Is this write? > And against what sources will be applied cvsup's deltas? > I'm running 2.2.5-R, have I cvsuped 3.1-R?. This is > my cvsup-file: > *default host=cvsup2.ru.FreeBSD.org > *default base=/mnt/usr > *default prefix=/mnt/usr > *default release=cvs > *default tag=RELENG_3_1 > *default delete use-rel-suffix compress > > src-base > src-bin > src-contrib > src-etc > #src-games > src-gnu > src-include > src-kerberosIV > src-lib > src-libexec > src-release > src-sbin > src-secure > src-share > src-sys > src-tools > src-usrbin > src-usrsbin > *default tag=. > ports-all > > -- > Andy V. Oleynik > (When U aim for perfection, > U discover it's a moving target Ã80) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 14:11:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0ED114CFF; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:11:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id OAA25974; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:12:48 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda25972; Mon May 10 14:12:33 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA50817; Mon, 10 May 1999 14:11:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905102111.OAA50817@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> Received: from localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "passer.osg.gov.bc.ca" via SMTP by localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdt50811; Mon May 10 14:11:03 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE X-Sender: cschuber To: Mike Tancsa Cc: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, julian@freebsd.org, dillon@freebsd.org, luoqi@freebsd.org Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 (was Re: Strange reboot saga ) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 May 1999 15:19:33 EDT." <3.0.5.32.19990510151933.017f1b90@staff.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 14:11:03 -0700 From: Cy Schubert Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <3.0.5.32.19990510151933.017f1b90@staff.sentex.ca>, Mike Tancsa writ es: > At 12:11 PM 5/10/99 -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: > >I remember trying this exploit about a month ago when it was first > >announced. It locked the system up solid within seconds. After > >applying the patches from PR 8416 I currently have four copies of > >find and one tripwire running for over an hour and a half, with no > >hang. The patches from PR 8416 appear to have fixed the hang. > > > That is most excellent... Is there any reason why this patch has not been > applied to the tree ? i.e. does it have any adverse side effects > preventing it from being committed ? > > ---Mike > Version 1.24 of kern_lock.c does have the fix, however it relies on macros that only exist in -current. Not being a FreeBSD kernel wizard, I can only guess that the version of the fix in PR 8416 may cause other problems or it might just be that version 1.24 of kern_lock.c is simply a more elegant solution. If it is the latter, then temporarily committing the PR 8416 version into -stable might provide some relief until a more permanent solution based on version 1.24 can be engineered into -stable. Version 1.24 of kern_lock.c only fixes read()/mmap() deadlocks. Write()/mmap() deadlocks still have the potential of hanging the system, which may answer why the solution hasn't been MFC'd yet, as it's only a partial solution. [IMO a partial solution is better than nothing, but then again I'm not a FreeBSD kernel wizard.] Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 17:51:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from roma.coe.ufrj.br (roma.coe.ufrj.br [146.164.53.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE43B15286 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:51:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonny@jonny.eng.br) Received: (from jonny@localhost) by roma.coe.ufrj.br (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA20970 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 10 May 1999 21:51:21 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from jonny) From: Joao Carlos Mendes Luis Message-Id: <199905110051.VAA20970@roma.coe.ufrj.br> Subject: fingerd new "feature" To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 21:51:21 -0300 (EST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Since my last upgrade on a 3.1-stable system, I'm receiving these errors: May 10 21:45:45 krakatoa inetd[183]: /usr/libexec/fingerd[11913]: exit status 0x100 My inetd is configured this way: finger stream tcp nowait/3/10 nobody /usr/libexec/fingerd fingerd -s What's the problem ? Is the new inetd too paranoid ? Jonny -- João Carlos Mendes Luís jonny@jonny.eng.br Networking Enginner jcml@ieee.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 17:55:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (lazlo.steam.com [199.108.84.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24BDC14C89; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:55:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cliff@steam.com) Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com [192.168.32.2]) by lazlo.internal.steam.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00869; Mon, 10 May 1999 17:22:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:22:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Skolnick X-Sender: cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: luoqi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 (was Re: Strange reboot saga ) In-Reply-To: <199905102111.OAA50817@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After removing the patch from my system, poof - deadlock. I did the ctl-printscrean thing, and everything looked ok. There were a bunch of locks, shared, but I could not make much sense beyond the "ps" and doing a trace which did not give me much info since I could not figure out how to trace a specific process. :( Anyways this is a production email and dns system, so I can't futz with it too much. I've added the patch in and expect my system will run again until *I* take it down. Usually it locks up within 24 hours without the patch, and it has run 4+ days with no lockup with the patch. After 4 days I took the system down to remote the patch and add debugging to my kernel, monday rolls around and poof - locked up. I would urge someone who has more of a clue about the locking issues to take a look at this. Cliff On Mon, 10 May 1999, Cy Schubert wrote: > In message <3.0.5.32.19990510151933.017f1b90@staff.sentex.ca>, Mike > Tancsa writ > es: > > At 12:11 PM 5/10/99 -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: > > >I remember trying this exploit about a month ago when it was first > > >announced. It locked the system up solid within seconds. After > > >applying the patches from PR 8416 I currently have four copies of > > >find and one tripwire running for over an hour and a half, with no > > >hang. The patches from PR 8416 appear to have fixed the hang. > > > > > > That is most excellent... Is there any reason why this patch has not been > > applied to the tree ? i.e. does it have any adverse side effects > > preventing it from being committed ? > > > > ---Mike > > > > Version 1.24 of kern_lock.c does have the fix, however it relies on > macros that only exist in -current. Not being a FreeBSD kernel > wizard, I can only guess that the version of the fix in PR 8416 may > cause other problems or it might just be that version 1.24 of > kern_lock.c is simply a more elegant solution. If it is the > latter, then temporarily committing the PR 8416 version into > -stable might provide some relief until a more permanent solution > based on version 1.24 can be engineered into -stable. > > Version 1.24 of kern_lock.c only fixes read()/mmap() deadlocks. > Write()/mmap() deadlocks still have the potential of hanging the > system, which may answer why the solution hasn't been MFC'd yet, as > it's only a partial solution. [IMO a partial solution is better > than nothing, but then again I'm not a FreeBSD kernel wizard.] > > > Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 > Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 > Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca > ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca > Province of BC > "e**(i*pi)+1=0" > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain Steam Tunnel Operations | a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty cliff@steam.com | nor safety." http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 18:11:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF55015510 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:11:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dizzydev.com) Received: from diz ([209.110.239.105]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id SAA00890 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:10:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mike Schmitt" To: Subject: Booting 3.1 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:09:16 -0700 Message-ID: <000001be9b4a$e3a1ceb0$69ef6ed1@diz.dizx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I'm trying to install 3.1-RELEASE on a Pentium 233MMX system. I boot off the floppy, and can easily install the entire system off a network connection. After installation, though, the system boots, I hit F3 to get FreeBSD to boot, and the entire system locks up tight. Any ideas on how to proceed? Thanks, Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 18:20:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from implode.root.com (root.com [209.102.106.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECBBB15EDC; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:20:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id SAA00175; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:16:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905110116.SAA00175@implode.root.com> To: Cliff Skolnick Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, luoqi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 (was Re: Strange reboot saga ) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 May 1999 17:22:50 PDT." From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:16:09 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >After removing the patch from my system, poof - deadlock. > >I did the ctl-printscrean thing, and everything looked ok. There were a >bunch of locks, shared, but I could not make much sense beyond the "ps" and >doing a trace which did not give me much info since I could not figure out >how to trace a specific process. :( > >Anyways this is a production email and dns system, so I can't futz with it >too much. I've added the patch in and expect my system will run again until >*I* take it down. Usually it locks up within 24 hours without the patch, >and it has run 4+ days with no lockup with the patch. After 4 days I took >the system down to remote the patch and add debugging to my kernel, monday >rolls around and poof - locked up. > >I would urge someone who has more of a clue about the locking issues to take >a look at this. There are two patches mentioned in PR 8416...which one are you using? -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 18:24:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D962B14F6F for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:24:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA05625; Mon, 10 May 1999 19:41:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.63]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA25723; Mon, 10 May 1999 19:41:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3737235D.A4B782DA@prime.net.ua> Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:41:47 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: (Andy V. Oleynik) Subject: Re: Where is expected 3.1-R source tree cvsuped on 2.2.5 machine Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 10-May-99 Andy V. Oleynik wrote: > Thank U. guys, > it works. > One more question: > Should I make aaou-to-elf before > the "make world", etc. Any tips? > John Baldwin wrote: I think it is more like this: make upgrade disklabel -B -b /boot/boot1 -s /boot/boot2 # install new bootblocks merge in changes to /etc (lots of these!) reboot make world (or buildworld/installworld) edit your kernel config (probably just want to start from scratch with new GENERIC) make new kernel and install reboot install new X (either as package or via /usr/ports) reinstall ports reboot if ports require it... Hope this helps. Read the Makefile in /usr/src as well as /usr/src/UPDATING for additional hints. HTH. --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 18:27: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (lazlo.steam.com [199.108.84.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DC9414C39; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:27:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cliff@steam.com) Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com [192.168.32.2]) by lazlo.internal.steam.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA01303; Mon, 10 May 1999 18:27:01 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:27:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Skolnick X-Sender: cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com To: David Greenman Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, luoqi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 (was Re: Strange reboot saga ) In-Reply-To: <199905110116.SAA00175@implode.root.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm using the later patch, the one patching kern_lock.c. Cliff On Mon, 10 May 1999, David Greenman wrote: > > > >After removing the patch from my system, poof - deadlock. > > > >I did the ctl-printscrean thing, and everything looked ok. There were a > >bunch of locks, shared, but I could not make much sense beyond the "ps" and > >doing a trace which did not give me much info since I could not figure out > >how to trace a specific process. :( > > > >Anyways this is a production email and dns system, so I can't futz with it > >too much. I've added the patch in and expect my system will run again until > >*I* take it down. Usually it locks up within 24 hours without the patch, > >and it has run 4+ days with no lockup with the patch. After 4 days I took > >the system down to remote the patch and add debugging to my kernel, monday > >rolls around and poof - locked up. > > > >I would urge someone who has more of a clue about the locking issues to take > >a look at this. > > There are two patches mentioned in PR 8416...which one are you using? > > -DG > > David Greenman > Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org > Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com > -- Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain Steam Tunnel Operations | a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty cliff@steam.com | nor safety." http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 20: 9:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alice.pdq.net (alice.pdq.net [204.145.251.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B6F81522E for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 20:09:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blitz@pdq.net) X-AirNote: 1 Received: from 56K-178.LVL3TNT1.pdq.net [216.118.7.178-7] by pocahontas.pdq.net; Mon, 10 May 1999 22:09:39 -0500 Message-ID: <000e01be9b5c$21d8b7a0$0b01a8c0@khaos.com> From: "Clay Smith" To: Subject: watchdog timeout Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 22:12:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01BE9B32.37916C60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BE9B32.37916C60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When copying files from my unix server to my win 98 machine (ftp and = smb) I often get very slow transfer rates followed by 'xl0: watchdog = timeout' on my freebsd terminal. Does anyone know what this means or = how I can fix it? ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BE9B32.37916C60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
When copying files from my unix server = to my win 98=20 machine (ftp and smb)  I often get very slow transfer rates = followed=20 by 'xl0: watchdog timeout' on my freebsd terminal.  Does anyone = know what=20 this means or how I can fix it?
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01BE9B32.37916C60-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 20:36: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C85E1513A; Mon, 10 May 1999 20:35:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id UAA27175; Mon, 10 May 1999 20:36:59 -0700 Received: from cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca(142.31.240.113), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda27173; Mon May 10 20:36:47 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA11597; Mon, 10 May 1999 20:35:36 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905110335.UAA11597@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdz11592; Mon May 10 20:35:29 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: dg@root.com Cc: Cliff Skolnick , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, luoqi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 (was Re: Strange reboot saga ) In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 10 May 1999 18:16:09 PDT." <199905110116.SAA00175@implode.root.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 20:35:29 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <199905110116.SAA00175@implode.root.com>, David Greenman writes: > > There are two patches mentioned in PR 8416...which one are you using? The later patch. The former patch is already in -stable vm_fault.c,v 1.93.2.2 and in -current 1.100. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 23: 2:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.yore.net (www.yore.net [38.193.45.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A59A71590D for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 23:02:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rbagby@yore.net) Received: from bagby1 ([38.193.45.50]) by www.yore.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id BAA18580 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 01:01:49 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from rbagby@yore.net) Message-ID: <007801be9b73$d4315620$322dc126@bagby1> From: "Ray Bagby" To: Subject: su suddenly-upchucks Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 01:02:08 -0500 Organization: yore.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0075_01BE9B49.E4D78500" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01BE9B49.E4D78500 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings, Running 2.8.8 for about 5 months and have been very happy with it. = Suddenly, about 3 days ago, trying to run "su" returned a segmentation = error and a signal 11. I though maybe the executable had an accident so I restored from the = epoch dump but that did not clear up the problem. Any ideas? Thanks! ------=_NextPart_000_0075_01BE9B49.E4D78500 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greetings,
    Running 2.8.8 for about 5 months = and have=20 been very happy with it. Suddenly, about 3 days ago, trying to run "su"=20 returned a segmentation error and a signal 11.
    I though maybe the executable had = an=20 accident so I restored from the epoch dump but that did not clear up the = problem.
    Any ideas?
 
    = Thanks!
------=_NextPart_000_0075_01BE9B49.E4D78500-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 23: 2:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fep7.mail.ozemail.net (fep7.mail.ozemail.net [203.2.192.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2FF158E4 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 23:02:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from c9710216@atlas.newcastle.edu.au) Received: from atlas.newcastle.edu.au (slnew54p12.ozemail.com.au [203.108.151.28]) by fep7.mail.ozemail.net (8.9.0/8.6.12) with ESMTP id QAA14048; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:02:22 +1000 (EST) Message-ID: <3737C803.4364028A@atlas.newcastle.edu.au> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:02:43 +1000 From: obituary X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eric Griff Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga III References: <002501be9af7$0c93b940$2ff50dd0@eric.netdesign1.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Eric Griff wrote: > It dried it so well, that it looked like there was none on it.. > So FreeBSD isn't the only hot OS, hehe. FreeBSD is hardly a "hot" OS compared to Windows 98. FreeBSD, Linux, and other OSs that expect the system to be running stable 24/7 use the HLT instruction on x86 CPUs to save power and keep the processor cool. This is only possible in Windows 98 by using a 3rd party utility like "Rain". I run a Celeron 300A overclocked to 464MHz (also running at 2.4V) and as you can imagine, keeping the processor as cool as possible is a high priority! If you're running Windows 98 and running into overheating problems, I *highly* recommend you use Rain (or something similar) to assist with stability. > Eric -jake (obituary) c9710216@atlas.newcastle.edu.au -- Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #0: Fri May 7 16:36:14 EST 1999 root@carcass.death.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/CARCASS i386 -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 23: 3:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C90AD1599E for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 23:03:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id PAA20679; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:03:33 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3737B246.57C81D26@newsguy.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:29:58 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Schmitt Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Booting 3.1 References: <000001be9b4a$e3a1ceb0$69ef6ed1@diz.dizx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Schmitt wrote: > > Hello, > > I'm trying to install 3.1-RELEASE on a Pentium 233MMX system. I boot off > the floppy, and can easily install the entire system off a network > connection. After installation, though, the system boots, I hit F3 to get > FreeBSD to boot, and the entire system locks up tight. Any ideas on how to > proceed? Begin by describing what you see during the entire boot process, and quoting the last few lines you see. FreeBSD bootstrapping is a many-stages process, and saying that it freezes doesn't give us the slightest clue on what is freezing. Second, describe your hardware. "Pentium 233MX" is *not* enough. Disk controllers, disks, ram memory, motherboard, chipset, everything you can provide. Usually, the problem is located in the one piece of information omitted. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "Proof of Trotsky's farsightedness is that _none_ of his predictions have come true yet." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 23: 4: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89DA515921 for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 23:04:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id PAA20696; Tue, 11 May 1999 15:03:37 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3737B398.EFE2ECF4@newsguy.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:35:36 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Baldwin Cc: "(Andy V. Oleynik)" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Where is expected 3.1-R source tree cvsuped on 2.2.5 machine References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Baldwin wrote: > > I think it is more like this: > (read /usr/src/UPDATING, Release Notes and Errata) > make upgrade But make sure you have enough disk space before doing it. It takes twice the space of a normal world, which is already bigger than your 2.2.5 world. > disklabel -B -b /boot/boot1 -s /boot/boot2 # install new bootblocks Not needed (done in upgrade) > merge in changes to /etc (lots of these!) Install mergemaster port and use it. *DO NOT* copy /etc/defaults/rc.conf over /etc/rc.conf. > reboot > make world (or buildworld/installworld) not needed. Make upgrade will make world twice already, no need for one more... :-) > edit your kernel config (probably just want to start from scratch with new > GENERIC) Starting from the scratch is better. The upgrade target will give you a so-so kernel configuration file. > make new kernel and install > reboot A reboot with a new world, a new /etc, and *not* a new kernel is definitely not warranted. But the upgrade target goes through the process of creating a new kernel. If it does not, do not reboot up there. (Follow the upgrade instructions, generally speaking) > install new X (either as package or via /usr/ports) > reinstall ports > reboot if ports require it... Yup. Not needed, but will save you a lot of trouble. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org "Proof of Trotsky's farsightedness is that _none_ of his predictions have come true yet." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon May 10 23:16:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D14A515C6E for ; Mon, 10 May 1999 23:16:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dizzydev.com) Received: from diz (ali-ca20-17.ix.netcom.com [209.110.228.209]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id XAA14885; Mon, 10 May 1999 23:13:39 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mike Schmitt" To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: Subject: RE: Booting 3.1 Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 23:12:13 -0700 Message-ID: <000a01be9b75$36443070$69ef6ed1@diz.dizx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 In-reply-to: <3737B246.57C81D26@newsguy.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Good points, although on the first I can say nothing: after the F1 DOS F2 ??? F3 BSD prompt (at which I hit F3), the system freezes. Nothing else. Pentium 233MMX, Tyan motherboard, 64mb RAM, single IDE hard disk partitioned for DOS, Solaris for Intel, and FreeBSD. Intel EtherExpress Pro & DEC PCI network cards. Mach64 video. IDE CD ROM. I'll make a note of the chipset when I get access to the machine next. As a test, we pulled out all the adapter cards except the video card, and disconnected the CD ROM. Same result. Let me know what else to provide -- this is a mystery to me as well, as I've installed BSD on several quite similar systems (Tyan motherboards, etc.) and they've worked fine. Thanks in advance! Mike > -----Original Message----- > From: Daniel C. Sobral [mailto:dcs@newsguy.com] > Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 9:30 PM > To: Mike Schmitt > Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Booting 3.1 > > > Mike Schmitt wrote: > > > > Hello, > > > > I'm trying to install 3.1-RELEASE on a Pentium 233MMX system. > I boot off > > the floppy, and can easily install the entire system off a network > > connection. After installation, though, the system boots, I > hit F3 to get > > FreeBSD to boot, and the entire system locks up tight. Any > ideas on how to > > proceed? > > Begin by describing what you see during the entire boot process, and > quoting the last few lines you see. FreeBSD bootstrapping is a > many-stages process, and saying that it freezes doesn't give us the > slightest clue on what is freezing. > > Second, describe your hardware. "Pentium 233MX" is *not* enough. > Disk controllers, disks, ram memory, motherboard, chipset, > everything you can provide. Usually, the problem is located in the > one piece of information omitted. > > -- > Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) > dcs@newsguy.com > dcs@freebsd.org > > "Proof of Trotsky's farsightedness is that _none_ of his > predictions have come true yet." > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 0:50:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgrd.orion.no (postkontor.orion.no [194.143.1.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 280B914C9A for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 00:50:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from raymond@orion.no) Received: from postkontor.orion.no (unverified [62.92.20.132]) by mailgrd.orion.no (Integralis SMTPRS 2.04) with ESMTP id ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:50:52 +0200 Received: from foobar.orion.no by postkontor.orion.no with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1460.8) id J865MXTR; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:50:19 +0200 X-Mailer: 21.2 "Clio" XEmacs Lucid (beta12) (via feedmail 8 I); VM 6.67 under 21.2 "Clio" XEmacs Lucid (beta12) From: "Raymond Wiker" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <14135.57670.216107.982103@foobar.orion.no> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:50:30 +0200 (CEST) To: Subject: RE: Booting 3.1 In-Reply-To: <000a01be9b75$36443070$69ef6ed1@diz.dizx.com> References: <3737B246.57C81D26@newsguy.com> <000a01be9b75$36443070$69ef6ed1@diz.dizx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Schmitt writes: > Good points, although on the first I can say nothing: after the F1 DOS F2 > ??? F3 BSD prompt (at which I hit F3), the system freezes. Nothing > else. Do you have a large hard disk, with the FreeBSD root partition outside the first 1024 (logical) disk cylinders? If so, then that is quite likely to be the reason. Possible solutions include reformatting the disk using a different logical geometry, or shuffling the disk partitions so that all data necessary for booting are within the first 1024 logical cylinders. //Raymond. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 0:53:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from volodya.prime.net.ua (volodya.prime.net.ua [195.64.229.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AC4114F8C for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 00:53:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Received: from prime.net.ua (localhost.prime.net.ua [127.0.0.1]) by volodya.prime.net.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03258 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:01:27 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Message-ID: <3737E3D2.2CB44D2@prime.net.ua> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:01:23 +0300 From: "Andy V. Oleynik" Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Organization: M-Info X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, uk, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: makefile.upgrade vs makefile in 3.1 sources Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, everybody, once I've cvsupped RELENG_3, I've discovered that there is makefile.upgrade in the src directory. After quick look through it I assumed that it would be better to " make -f makefile.upgrade world". Am I right? -- WBW Andy V. Oleynik (When U work in virtual office U have good chance to obtain virtual money ö%-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 1: 0: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from volodya.prime.net.ua (volodya.prime.net.ua [195.64.229.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFCC31599E for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 00:59:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Received: from prime.net.ua (localhost.prime.net.ua [127.0.0.1]) by volodya.prime.net.ua (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA03276 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:08:02 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Message-ID: <3737E560.ED99BF5D@prime.net.ua> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:08:01 +0300 From: "Andy V. Oleynik" Organization: M-Info X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, uk, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: makefile.upgrade vs makefile in 3.1 sources References: <3737E3D2.2CB44D2@prime.net.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Question cancelled: makefile's target "upgrade" get in the makefile.upgrade. Sorrey :) "Andy V. Oleynik" wrote: > Hi, everybody, > once I've cvsupped RELENG_3, I've discovered that there is > makefile.upgrade > in the src directory. After quick look through it I assumed that it > would be > better to " make -f makefile.upgrade world". Am I right? > > -- > WBW Andy V. Oleynik (When U work in virtual office > U have good chance to obtain virtual money ö%-) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- WBW Andy V. Oleynik (When U work in virtual office U have good chance to obtain virtual money ö%-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 4:16: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A38C415DF5 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 04:15:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA24584; Tue, 11 May 1999 07:15:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.63]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA03878; Tue, 11 May 1999 07:15:47 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3737B398.EFE2ECF4@newsguy.com> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 07:15:47 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Subject: Re: Where is expected 3.1-R source tree cvsuped on 2.2.5 machine Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, (Andy V. Oleynik) , John Baldwin Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 11-May-99 Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > John Baldwin wrote: >> make world (or buildworld/installworld) > > not needed. Make upgrade will make world twice already, no need for > one more... :-) Ahh.. I actually did this before upgade existed and had to manually do all the steps I listed. Thanks for the corrections. :) --- John Baldwin -- http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://members.freedomnet.com/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 6:47:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE3D314C8B; Tue, 11 May 1999 06:47:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id JAA29762; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:47:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19990511094641.00fd0310@staff.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@staff.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:46:41 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 ... looks fixed! Cc: luoqi@FreeBSD.ORG, dg@root.com In-Reply-To: <199905110335.UAA11597@cwsys.cwsent.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 08:35 PM 5/10/99 -0700, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: >In message <199905110116.SAA00175@implode.root.com>, David Greenman >writes: >> >> There are two patches mentioned in PR 8416...which one are you using? Thanks to dg@root.com, and luoqi@freebsd.org for the fix to this issue!! I noticed the commits go through last night. I have updated my work machine and the problem that was triggered by the two finds indeed seems fixed! Now I can update my publically exposed (exposed at least to our customers) 3.x production machine and I can sleep easier! Did anyone ever say FreeBSD rocks! ;-) ---Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 6:51:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E761515982 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 06:51:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA00621 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 14:51:03 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <01ca01be9bb5$49ab46e0$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: Subject: SMC 8416BT Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:22:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I know this is not really the place to ask this question: But do the SMC - 8416BT networks work with 3.1-Stable? If so which driver name (ed?) Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 7: 0:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from Wit401305.student.utwente.nl (wit401305.student.utwente.nl [130.89.236.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B2515127 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 07:00:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daeron@Wit401305.student.utwente.nl) Received: from localhost (daeron@localhost) by Wit401305.student.utwente.nl (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA07417; Tue, 11 May 1999 16:00:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daeron@Wit401305.student.utwente.nl) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:00:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Pascal Hofstee To: Greg Quinlan Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMC 8416BT In-Reply-To: <01ca01be9bb5$49ab46e0$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 11 May 1999, Greg Quinlan wrote: > I know this is not really the place to ask this question: > > But do the SMC - 8416BT networks work with 3.1-Stable? > If so which driver name (ed?) Well .. it's not exactly the same card .. but my old SMC-8216 Elite Ultra work perfectly with 3.1-STABLE using the ed device -------------------- Pascal Hofstee - daeron@shadowmere.student.utwente.nl -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version: 3.1 GCS d- s+: a-- C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W- N+ o? K- w--- O? M V? PS+ PE Y-- PGP-- t+ 5 X-- R tv+ b+ DI D- G e* h+ r- y+ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 8:19:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from proxy4.ba.best.com (proxy4.ba.best.com [206.184.139.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A2514F8F for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 08:19:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dizzydev.com) Received: from diz (dynamic13.pm02.san-mateo.best.com [205.149.174.77]) by proxy4.ba.best.com (8.9.3/8.9.2/best.out) with SMTP id IAA14745 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 08:19:07 -0700 (PDT) From: "Mike Schmitt" To: Subject: RE: Booting 3.1 Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 08:17:41 -0700 Message-ID: <000301be9bc1$69c47a30$2fe36ed1@diz.dizx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2377.0 In-Reply-To: <14135.57670.216107.982103@foobar.orion.no> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Do you have a large hard disk, with the FreeBSD root partition > outside the first 1024 (logical) disk cylinders? If so, then that is > quite likely to be the reason. This may very well be it -- I'll check once I'm on the machine later today. If this is the case, why is a warning not issued when the system is set up? I assume that after doing the fdisk and slice partitioning, enough information is available to tell the user that their disk/slice setup will not allow the system to boot ... Just a thought. :P Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 8:31:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 71F1E159B6 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 08:30:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (jack@localhost) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA36011 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:30:27 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:30:27 -0400 (EDT) From: jack To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Is aha broken? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kernels from source cvsupped yesterday morning and afternoon (EDT) with the aha driver fail to boot. Just after the waiting for scsi devices to settle message I get: aha0: ahafetchtransinfo - Inquire Setup Info Failed then after a few seconds: probe17 aha0:2:0 CCB 0xc466f450 - time out probe17 aha0:2:0 CCB 0xc466f450 - time out aha0: ahafetchtransinfo - Inquire Setup Info Failed I build world and the kernel (twice) and got the same results. A kernel from May 3 source still works fine. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 8:59:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59ED514E38 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 08:59:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id JAA29890; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:00:42 -0700 Received: from cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca(142.31.240.113), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda29886; Tue May 11 09:00:26 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA54849; Tue, 11 May 1999 08:59:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905111559.IAA54849@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdT54845; Tue May 11 08:59:07 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 2.2.8-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: tetragon@cyber.com.au Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 09 May 1999 21:01:57 +1000." <37356B25.DC23929@bitey.cyber.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 08:59:07 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <37356B25.DC23929@bitey.cyber.com.au>, Gavan McCormack writes: > > > "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: > > Gavan McCormack wrote: > > > > > I have been hearing around that NFSv3 is the only 'good' NFS, and so > far no > > > > This isn't right either. FreeBSD has had NFSv3 for quite some time. > It > > > I assume you mean in -CURRENT? This is the -STABLE list remember. :) Stil > l, > > Wrong. AFAIK, even 2.2.x has nfsv3. But only in 3.x the default > > Ok, so this list likes to keep me guessing. > > I assume then that NFSv3 cant do per-directory exporting? Or it just dosent > make a difference on any version of BSD4.4? Or, I am just doing something > wrong? > > Someone wanna clear the situation up before I install RH5.2?? (The original > question being, can I export on a per-directory basis from my 3.1-STABLE > machine, without exporting the entire local filesystem?) Actually you can export filesystems on a directory basis, without the -alldirs flag. If you want to use the -alldirs flag you'll need to jump through an extra hoop to get that working: Mount a nullfs filesystem with the directory you wish to export with -alldirs, then export that instead. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 9:16:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (skynet.ctr.columbia.edu [128.59.64.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D439C154F4; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:15:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu) Received: (from wpaul@localhost) by skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA25904; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:14:59 -0400 From: Bill Paul Message-Id: <199905111614.MAA25904@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Subject: Anybody actually using gigabit ethernet? To: current@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:14:56 -0400 (EDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1950 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm wondering if anybody out there has actually done any experimentation with gigabit ethernet boards using the Alteon Tigon driver. I know that it works on my hardware, but it's nice to actually have some feedback from people so that I know if it's actually working worth a damn. So far I have not heard a peep out of anybody, other than a couple of people who were nice enough to help out with some driver testing, and that was months ago. I usually consider this a good thing, because it means that at least nobody is complaining. But when people ask me "hey Bill, how well do these boards work with FreeBSD?" all I can tell them is that they seem to work okay in my limited test environment. This does not exactly provide a lot of motivation to go out and buy some gigabit ethernet cards. Also, I only have access to a limited selection of cards (I have a 3Com and a Netgear board, and others have tested AceNIC boards) so I don't know for sure if some of the ones that I claim to support actually work. (I don't have any reason to believe they won't, but Murphy's Law applies.) I also don't have access to a gigabit switch, so my testing is limited to blasting traffic between two hosts through a fiber patch. So, if anybody is actually using a Tigon-based gigabit board with STABLE or CURRENT, let me know. Is it working reliably? Is performance good? Is it bad? Inquiring minds want to know. -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (212) 854-6020 | System Manager, Master of Unix-Fu Work: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu | Center for Telecommunications Research Home: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu | Columbia University, New York City ============================================================================= "It is not I who am crazy; it is I who am mad!" - Ren Hoek, "Space Madness" ============================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 9:21:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk [194.81.5.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2871614ED7 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:21:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from greg@qmpgmc.ac.uk) Received: from greg (gquinlan [194.81.0.56]) by amanda.qmpgmc.ac.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA01702 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 17:21:21 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <001001be9bca$48109d20$380051c2@greg.qmpgmc.ac.uk> Reply-To: "Greg Quinlan" From: "Greg Quinlan" To: Subject: Re: Strange reboot saga IV, REAL CRASH Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 17:21:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK! Spoke too soon........ PANIC..... after 3 days...... Originally I found that a FAN was not running! .... but considering the CPU was a PII-333 with a good heat sink in a very cold computer room I was suspicious. I still have had a system panic... but after carefully checking off all the steps for saving a panic dump... So now I have the following files: # pwd /var/crash # ls -l total 132818 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2 May 11 16:44 bounds -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 1696185 May 11 16:44 kernel.0 -rw-rw-r-- 1 root wheel 5 Feb 15 10:45 minfree -rw------- 1 root wheel 134217728 May 11 16:44 vmcore.0 # Obviously I won't attach them Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 9:26:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from btw.plaintalk.bellevue.wa.us (btw.aa.net [206.125.75.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6269C14BEE; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:26:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dennis.glatting@software-munitions.com) Received: from localhost (dennisg@localhost) by btw.plaintalk.bellevue.wa.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA32528; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:25:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 09:25:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Dennis Glatting To: Bill Paul Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anybody actually using gigabit ethernet? In-Reply-To: <199905111614.MAA25904@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In reading your message I felt compelled to ask you a question. Are you using gb end-to-end? That probably isn't a good idea because in TCP the sequence numbers can wrap within timeout periods and the data stream become undetectably (from a TCP perspective) corrupt. -- Dennis Glatting Copyright (c) 1999 Software Munitions To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 9:34:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ulysses.noc.ntua.gr (ulysses.noc.ntua.gr [147.102.222.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06A9514FC0 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:34:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr) Received: from dblab.ece.ntua.gr (ithaca.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr [147.102.12.1]) by ulysses.noc.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA27518 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:34:04 +0300 (EET DST) Received: from hawk.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr (hawk.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr [147.102.12.8]) by dblab.ece.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA14198 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:31:17 +0300 (EEST) Received: (from george@localhost) by hawk.dbnet.ece.ntua.gr (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA08194 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:33:54 +0300 (EEST) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:33:54 +0300 From: Yiorgos Adamopoulos To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: latest Perl Message-ID: <19990511193354.A5035@dblab.ece.ntua.gr> Reply-To: adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i X-Organization: Knowledge and Data Base Systems Laboratory, National Technical University of Athens, GREECE X-URL: http://tupac.net/hood/adamo X-Alt-Email: adamo@ieee.org X-Work-Phone: +30-1-772-1-436 X-Work-FAX: +30-1-772-1-442 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG OK, Perl is in system, but what if one wants a newer version of Perl (*replacing* the current one?). Now why should one want this ...maybe because newer modules scream for things that are now bundled with the latest stable.tar.gz of Perl for instance. -- Yiorgos Adamopoulos -- #include adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr -- Knowledge and Data Base Systems Laboratory, NTUA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 9:39:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (skynet.ctr.columbia.edu [128.59.64.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 78C2415406; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:38:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu) Received: (from wpaul@localhost) by skynet.ctr.columbia.edu (8.6.12/8.6.9) id MAA25952; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:38:26 -0400 From: Bill Paul Message-Id: <199905111638.MAA25952@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Subject: Re: Anybody actually using gigabit ethernet? To: dennis.glatting@software-munitions.com (Dennis Glatting) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:38:23 -0400 (EDT) Cc: current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from "Dennis Glatting" at May 11, 99 09:25:35 am X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1414 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Of all the gin joints in all the towns in all the world, Dennis Glatting had to walk into mine and say: > In reading your message I felt compelled to ask you a question. Are > you using gb end-to-end? That probably isn't a good idea because in > TCP the sequence numbers can wrap within timeout periods and the data > stream become undetectably (from a TCP perspective) corrupt. You didn't read what I said. I don't have a gigabit ethernet switch. I only have cards. Therefore the *only* way I can test the operation of the driver and adapters is to connect two machines with gigabit cards back to back with a patch cable. This automatically implies 'using gb end-to-end.' As for corruption due to TCP sequence number wrapping, I don't know what to tell you. I never noticed such behavior in my tests, but that's why I'm asking for feedback from other people. -Bill -- ============================================================================= -Bill Paul (212) 854-6020 | System Manager, Master of Unix-Fu Work: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu | Center for Telecommunications Research Home: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu | Columbia University, New York City ============================================================================= "It is not I who am crazy; it is I who am mad!" - Ren Hoek, "Space Madness" ============================================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 9:39:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from crydee.sai.msu.ru (crydee.sai.msu.ru [195.208.220.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C214515B7F for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:39:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Received: from localhost (asv1@localhost) by crydee.sai.msu.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA10797; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:41:40 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:41:39 +0400 (MSD) From: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" To: Dmitry Khrustalev Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 11 May 1999, Dmitry Khrustalev wrote: > > I don't know why I am having such a bad luck with FreeBSD, but I am only > > getting about 300KB/s on writes over 10MBit network while exchange between > > Windoze machines yields about 900KB/s. Someday I will try SMB client on > > OS/2, but I was pretty happy with NFS -- until I switched to FreeBSD. > > Another thing to try is to turn off write gathering - it can interact > poorly with clients that write one block at a time instead of having > multiple outstanding writes. You can check if write gathering is being > effective using nfsstat, look for Opsaved number. The knob is > vfs.nfs.gatherdelay, set it to 0. Dmitry, thank you a *LOT*!! After setting it, I am getting steady 2.9MB/s on write via 100MBit network. The problem has been solved! Futhermore, I examined sysctl -a output and set "sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.delayed_ack=0". After that, Samba rocked! (850KB/s on write via 10MBit/s network). Is there any good source of information about sysctls? manpages are very brief and do not cover all sysctls. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Sergey Ayukov Sternberg Astronomical Institute http://www.ayukov.com Moscow, Russia http://crydee.sai.msu.ru/index-asv.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 9:44:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mrelay.jrc.it (mrelay.jrc.it [139.191.1.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1EAC9155B1; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:44:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick.hibma@jrc.it) Received: from elect8 (elect8.jrc.it [139.191.71.152]) by mrelay.jrc.it (LMC5692) with SMTP id SAA26851; Tue, 11 May 1999 18:44:05 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:43:57 +0200 (MET DST) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@elect8 Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: Bill Paul Cc: stable@freebsd.org, FreeBSD current mailing list Subject: Feedback on new drivers (was: Re: Anybody actually using gigabit ethernet?) In-Reply-To: <199905111614.MAA25904@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There should be a more general mechanism for this. I have the same problem with the USB stuff. 100+ people on the usb-bsd mailing list and only answers to directed questions. What about, like 'HEADS-UP', a 'FEEDBACK: ' message that should invite people to send 'it works' messages. And maybe provide a template of commands to cut and paste. Something like: (echo it works for me uname -a ident dmesg | grep '^' ) | mail -s "" person@address assuming that people are too lazy to type things in themselves. Cheers, Nick On Tue, 11 May 1999, Bill Paul wrote: > I'm wondering if anybody out there has actually done any experimentation > with gigabit ethernet boards using the Alteon Tigon driver. I know that > it works on my hardware, but it's nice to actually have some feedback > from people so that I know if it's actually working worth a damn. So > far I have not heard a peep out of anybody, other than a couple of people > who were nice enough to help out with some driver testing, and that > was months ago. > > I usually consider this a good thing, because it means that at least > nobody is complaining. But when people ask me "hey Bill, how well do > these boards work with FreeBSD?" all I can tell them is that they seem > to work okay in my limited test environment. This does not exactly > provide a lot of motivation to go out and buy some gigabit ethernet > cards. > > Also, I only have access to a limited selection of cards (I have a 3Com > and a Netgear board, and others have tested AceNIC boards) so I don't > know for sure if some of the ones that I claim to support actually > work. (I don't have any reason to believe they won't, but Murphy's > Law applies.) I also don't have access to a gigabit switch, so my > testing is limited to blasting traffic between two hosts through a > fiber patch. > > So, if anybody is actually using a Tigon-based gigabit board with > STABLE or CURRENT, let me know. Is it working reliably? Is performance > good? Is it bad? Inquiring minds want to know. > > -Bill > > -- > ============================================================================= > -Bill Paul (212) 854-6020 | System Manager, Master of Unix-Fu > Work: wpaul@ctr.columbia.edu | Center for Telecommunications Research > Home: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu | Columbia University, New York City > ============================================================================= > "It is not I who am crazy; it is I who am mad!" - Ren Hoek, "Space Madness" > ============================================================================= > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > > -- ISIS/STA, T.P.270, Joint Research Centre, 21020 Ispra, Italy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 9:46: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from crydee.sai.msu.ru (crydee.sai.msu.ru [195.208.220.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4821715CB9 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:45:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Received: from localhost (asv1@localhost) by crydee.sai.msu.ru (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA10847; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:47:08 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from asv1@crydee.sai.msu.ru) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:47:08 +0400 (MSD) From: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" To: Doug Rabson Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 10 May 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: > > > It all depends on the value which you place on the data which the clients > > > are writing. > > > > Yes, sure. In ideal case, I would love to mount some directories with less > > reliable settings and some with more reliable... This reminds me about > > ages long discussion on whether writes should be cached at all (it was > > thriving when DOS Smartdrive finally got an option to enable write > > caching). My opinion is that they should be cached. After all, it is > > impossible to get good performance out of NFSv2 when not doing write > > caching. Whether you will rely on UPS or just pray for data to be safe is > > another question. > > The data is cached (subsequent reads will come from the cache). I don't > expect FreeBSD's defaults to change on this since it does violate the spec > and a much better (safer) fix is to use NFSv3. There are cases when NFSv3 is simply not an option (can't upgrade clients). IMHO, the filesystem which does fflush() after each write() (effectively, this is a requirement for NFSv2) is seriously broken in design. > > > Could I have a copy of your test program? The 100Mbit performance ought to > > > be better than this. > > > > Test program is File Commander for OS/2, available from many places, e.g. > > ftp://hobbes.nmsu.edu/pub/incoming/fc2_210.zip > > Hmm. Not too useful to me since I don't run OS/2. I wonder what sized > requests are made by the OS/2 NFS client. That can affect performance > considerably. Without knowing the pattern of NFS calls the test makes, it > is impossible to speculate on what is causing the performance loss. The problem has been solved! (see my other message). Answer: sysctl -w vfs.nfs.gatherdelay=0 > > > I would have thought the OS/2 client could use SMB. I thought the > > > performance of samba was pretty good on FreeBSD. Perhaps it could be tuned > > > a bit (samba has a boatload of tuning parameters). > > > > I don't know why I am having such a bad luck with FreeBSD, but I am only > > getting about 300KB/s on writes over 10MBit network while exchange between > > Windoze machines yields about 900KB/s. Someday I will try SMB client on > > OS/2, but I was pretty happy with NFS -- until I switched to FreeBSD. > > Try reading the Samba documentation (in the docs/textdocs subdirectory of > the samba source code). Samba started to perform reasonably well (870KB/s on write via 10MBit/s) after "sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.delayed_ack=0". I wonder why an option in the smb.conf had no effect. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr. Sergey Ayukov Sternberg Astronomical Institute http://www.ayukov.com Moscow, Russia http://crydee.sai.msu.ru/index-asv.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 9:48: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from narcissus.net (narcissus.net [209.73.230.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7BE158B7; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:47:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@narcissus.net) Received: by narcissus.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D00FE1A0; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:38:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narcissus.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C11F813F; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:38:58 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:38:58 -0400 (EDT) From: Snob Art Genre Reply-To: Snob Art Genre To: Dennis Glatting Cc: Bill Paul , current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anybody actually using gigabit ethernet? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 11 May 1999, Dennis Glatting wrote: > In reading your message I felt compelled to ask you a question. Are > you using gb end-to-end? That probably isn't a good idea because in > TCP the sequence numbers can wrap within timeout periods and the data > stream become undetectably (from a TCP perspective) corrupt. Isn't that adequately covered by the PAWS extension from RFC 1323? Ben @narcissus.net -- finally To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 9:50: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from angel.double-barrel.be (mail.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96426159F9 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mvergall@double-barrel.be) Received: from ws3.double-barrel.be (ws3.double-barrel.be [194.7.102.30]) by angel.double-barrel.be (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA05732; Tue, 11 May 1999 18:41:00 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (mvergall@localhost) by ws3.double-barrel.be (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id SAA00698; Tue, 11 May 1999 18:39:35 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: ws3.double-barrel.be: mvergall owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:39:35 +0200 (CEST) From: "Michael C. Vergallen" To: Yiorgos Adamopoulos Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: latest Perl In-Reply-To: <19990511193354.A5035@dblab.ece.ntua.gr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nope.. simply compile and install it in /usr/local/ then the apps that need the new perl can use /usr/local/bin/perl as the call to perl istead of /usr/bin/perl advantage of this is that your current stuff keeps on working. Michael --- Michael C. Vergallen A.k.A. Mad Mike, Sportstraat 28 http://www.double-barrel.be/mvergall/ B 9000 Gent ftp://ftp.double-barrel.be/pub/linux/ Belgium tel : 32-9-2227764 Fax : 32-9-2224976 On Tue, 11 May 1999, Yiorgos Adamopoulos wrote: > OK, Perl is in system, but what if one wants a newer version of Perl > (*replacing* the current one?). > > Now why should one want this ...maybe because newer modules scream for things > that are now bundled with the latest stable.tar.gz of Perl for instance. > > -- > Yiorgos Adamopoulos -- #include > adamo@dblab.ece.ntua.gr -- Knowledge and Data Base Systems Laboratory, NTUA > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 9:51:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from verdi.nethelp.no (verdi.nethelp.no [158.36.41.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0AB8415DEF for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 09:51:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sthaug@nethelp.no) Received: (qmail 8449 invoked by uid 1001); 11 May 1999 16:51:37 +0000 (GMT) To: wpaul@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu Cc: dennis.glatting@software-munitions.com, current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anybody actually using gigabit ethernet? From: sthaug@nethelp.no In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 11 May 1999 12:38:23 -0400 (EDT)" References: <199905111638.MAA25952@skynet.ctr.columbia.edu> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.05+ on Emacs 19.34.2 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:51:37 +0200 Message-ID: <8447.926441497@verdi.nethelp.no> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > You didn't read what I said. I don't have a gigabit ethernet switch. > I only have cards. Therefore the *only* way I can test the operation > of the driver and adapters is to connect two machines with gigabit > cards back to back with a patch cable. This automatically implies 'using > gb end-to-end.' > > As for corruption due to TCP sequence number wrapping, I don't know > what to tell you. I never noticed such behavior in my tests, but that's > why I'm asking for feedback from other people. The obvious answer to the TCP sequence number problem is RFC 1323. I assume anybody who wants to use gigabit Ethernet over significant distances *will* use RFC 1323, if they are interested in any performance at all. Otherwise the 64 kbyte window will kill you. As for me, I have tested the driver with Netgear cards. Works great here, I got 470 Mbps (effective application to application) with ttcp, running back to back on a PII-350 and a Celeron 300A (overclocked to 337, thus PCI bus clocked at 37.5 Mhz). The limit in my case is clearly the CPU. However I did *not* see any better performance when I turned on jumbo frames. Next I'll put one card in an old PPro-200 and see what I can get from that. Steinar Haug, Nethelp consulting, sthaug@nethelp.no To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 10:10: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2DD515167; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id KAA30240; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:11:04 -0700 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda30236; Tue May 11 10:10:47 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA00755; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:09:33 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199905111709.KAA00755@passer.osg.gov.bc.ca> Received: from localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "passer.osg.gov.bc.ca" via SMTP by localhost.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpdARD751; Tue May 11 10:09:29 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE X-Sender: cschuber To: Mike Tancsa , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, luoqi@FreeBSD.ORG, dg@root.com, jkh@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Kudos In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 11 May 1999 09:46:41 EDT." <3.0.5.32.19990511094641.00fd0310@staff.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:09:29 -0700 From: Cy Schubert Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'd have to agree. About five years ago, when I was deciding whether to switch to FreeBSD or NetBSD from Linux, I had been corresponding with Jordan about the goals of the FreeBSD project. I was impressed then and have been impressed by the work of The Team ever since. Keep up the good work guys! Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" In message <3.0.5.32.19990511094641.00fd0310@staff.sentex.ca>, Mike Tancsa writ es: > At 08:35 PM 5/10/99 -0700, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > >In message <199905110116.SAA00175@implode.root.com>, David Greenman > >writes: > >> > >> There are two patches mentioned in PR 8416...which one are you using? > > Thanks to dg@root.com, and luoqi@freebsd.org for the fix to this issue!! I > noticed the commits go through last night. I have updated my work machine > and the problem that was triggered by the two finds indeed seems fixed! > Now I can update my publically exposed (exposed at least to our customers) > 3.x production machine and I can sleep easier! Did anyone ever say FreeBSD > rocks! ;-) > > ---Mike > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 > Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net > Sentex Communications www.sentex.net > Cambridge, Ontario Canada > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 10:11:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from spinner.netplex.com.au (spinner.netplex.com.au [202.12.86.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8A8C14DA6; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:11:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spinner.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74BC81F72; Wed, 12 May 1999 01:11:43 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Snob Art Genre Cc: Dennis Glatting , Bill Paul , current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anybody actually using gigabit ethernet? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 11 May 1999 12:38:58 -0400." Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 01:11:43 +0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <19990511171145.74BC81F72@spinner.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Snob Art Genre wrote: > On Tue, 11 May 1999, Dennis Glatting wrote: > > > In reading your message I felt compelled to ask you a question. Are > > you using gb end-to-end? That probably isn't a good idea because in > > TCP the sequence numbers can wrap within timeout periods and the data > > stream become undetectably (from a TCP perspective) corrupt. > > Isn't that adequately covered by the PAWS extension from RFC 1323? Well, maybe it would, but.... [1:09am]~src/etc-111# grep tcp_ext defaults/rc.conf tcp_extensions="NO" # Disallow RFC1323 extensions (or YES). It's off by default. :-( Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 10:41:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from narcissus.net (narcissus.net [209.73.230.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9551214D87; Tue, 11 May 1999 10:41:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@narcissus.net) Received: by narcissus.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C78A4190; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:32:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by narcissus.net (Postfix) with SMTP id B9AAE18E; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:32:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:32:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Snob Art Genre To: Peter Wemm Cc: Dennis Glatting , Bill Paul , current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anybody actually using gigabit ethernet? In-Reply-To: <19990511171145.74BC81F72@spinner.netplex.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 12 May 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: > > Isn't that adequately covered by the PAWS extension from RFC 1323? > > Well, maybe it would, but.... > > [1:09am]~src/etc-111# grep tcp_ext defaults/rc.conf > tcp_extensions="NO" # Disallow RFC1323 extensions (or YES). > > It's off by default. :-( IMO that's a good thing, because for some reason, the RFC 1323 extensions break a lot of older terminal servers. Ben @narcissus.net -- finally To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 11: 6:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (lazlo.steam.com [199.108.84.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF7F31512E; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:06:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cliff@steam.com) Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com [192.168.32.2]) by lazlo.internal.steam.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00602; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:06:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:06:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Skolnick X-Sender: cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com To: Mike Tancsa Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, luoqi@FreeBSD.ORG, dg@root.com Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 ... looks fixed! In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.19990511094641.00fd0310@staff.sentex.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cvsup'ed the new sources and installed the new kernel. I am hopeful that this will fix the problem, and I'll post if I get another lockup or run a week without one. Thanks again to the FreeBSD team, you guys do rock! Cliff On Tue, 11 May 1999, Mike Tancsa wrote: > At 08:35 PM 5/10/99 -0700, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > >In message <199905110116.SAA00175@implode.root.com>, David Greenman > >writes: > >> > >> There are two patches mentioned in PR 8416...which one are you using? > > Thanks to dg@root.com, and luoqi@freebsd.org for the fix to this issue!! I > noticed the commits go through last night. I have updated my work machine > and the problem that was triggered by the two finds indeed seems fixed! > Now I can update my publically exposed (exposed at least to our customers) > 3.x production machine and I can sleep easier! Did anyone ever say FreeBSD > rocks! ;-) > > ---Mike > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 > Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net > Sentex Communications www.sentex.net > Cambridge, Ontario Canada > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain Steam Tunnel Operations | a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty cliff@steam.com | nor safety." http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 11:14:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2D3915003; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:14:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.2/8.8.8) id TAA77827; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:13:48 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from joe) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 19:13:47 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Peter Wemm Cc: Snob Art Genre , Dennis Glatting , Bill Paul , current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anybody actually using gigabit ethernet? Message-ID: <19990511191347.C33364@pavilion.net> References: <19990511171145.74BC81F72@spinner.netplex.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990511171145.74BC81F72@spinner.netplex.com.au>; from Peter Wemm on Wed, May 12, 1999 at 01:11:43AM +0800 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, 24 The Old Steine, Brighton, BN1 1EL, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 01:11:43AM +0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > Snob Art Genre wrote: > > On Tue, 11 May 1999, Dennis Glatting wrote: > > > > > In reading your message I felt compelled to ask you a question. Are > > > you using gb end-to-end? That probably isn't a good idea because in > > > TCP the sequence numbers can wrap within timeout periods and the data > > > stream become undetectably (from a TCP perspective) corrupt. > > > > Isn't that adequately covered by the PAWS extension from RFC 1323? > > Well, maybe it would, but.... > > [1:09am]~src/etc-111# grep tcp_ext defaults/rc.conf > tcp_extensions="NO" # Disallow RFC1323 extensions (or YES). No.. it's _on_ by default. (YES to disallow.) Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 11:18:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nsx.cybersites.com (unknown [207.92.123.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A6D015003; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:18:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cyouse@cybersites.com) Received: from localhost (cyouse@localhost) by nsx.cybersites.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA13535; Tue, 11 May 1999 14:13:41 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cyouse@cybersites.com) X-Authentication-Warning: nsx.cybersites.com: cyouse owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:13:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Chuck Youse To: Josef Karthauser Cc: Peter Wemm , Snob Art Genre , Dennis Glatting , Bill Paul , current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anybody actually using gigabit ethernet? In-Reply-To: <19990511191347.C33364@pavilion.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Where did you learn to read? Chuck Youse Director of Systems cyouse@cybersites.com On Tue, 11 May 1999, Josef Karthauser wrote: > On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 01:11:43AM +0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > > tcp_extensions="NO" # Disallow RFC1323 extensions (or YES). > > No.. it's _on_ by default. (YES to disallow.) > > Joe > -- > Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? > Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) > Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 11:23:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phk.freebsd.dk (phk.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F289159F9; Tue, 11 May 1999 11:23:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (critter.freebsd.dk [212.242.40.131]) by phk.freebsd.dk (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA20434; Tue, 11 May 1999 20:23:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id UAA01371; Tue, 11 May 1999 20:23:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: Chuck Youse Cc: Josef Karthauser , Peter Wemm , Snob Art Genre , Dennis Glatting , Bill Paul , current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anybody actually using gigabit ethernet? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 11 May 1999 14:13:41 EDT." Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 20:23:15 +0200 Message-ID: <1369.926446995@critter.freebsd.dk> From: Poul-Henning Kamp Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Isn't it more appropriate to ask where he didn't learn to read ? :-) Poul-Henning In message , Chuc k Youse writes: > >Where did you learn to read? > >Chuck Youse >Director of Systems >cyouse@cybersites.com > > >On Tue, 11 May 1999, Josef Karthauser wrote: > >> On Wed, May 12, 1999 at 01:11:43AM +0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > >> > tcp_extensions="NO" # Disallow RFC1323 extensions (or YES). >> >> No.. it's _on_ by default. (YES to disallow.) >> >> Joe >> -- >> Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? >> Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) >> Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message > -- Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member phk@FreeBSD.ORG "Real hackers run -current on their laptop." FreeBSD -- It will take a long time before progress goes too far! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 12:14:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from herring.nlsystems.com (nlsys.demon.co.uk [158.152.125.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E070414BEE for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 12:14:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from localhost (dfr@localhost) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA01497; Tue, 11 May 1999 20:14:05 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 20:14:05 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: "Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists)" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NFS question.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 11 May 1999, Sergey Ayukov (mailing lists) wrote: > On Mon, 10 May 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: > > The data is cached (subsequent reads will come from the cache). I don't > > expect FreeBSD's defaults to change on this since it does violate the spec > > and a much better (safer) fix is to use NFSv3. > > There are cases when NFSv3 is simply not an option (can't upgrade > clients). IMHO, the filesystem which does fflush() after each write() > (effectively, this is a requirement for NFSv2) is seriously broken in > design. I agree there. I'm still not changing the default though since its not my data which would be risked. It has to be a decision made by the individual admin (it would be nice to have better documentation though). > > Hmm. Not too useful to me since I don't run OS/2. I wonder what sized > > requests are made by the OS/2 NFS client. That can affect performance > > considerably. Without knowing the pattern of NFS calls the test makes, it > > is impossible to speculate on what is causing the performance loss. > > The problem has been solved! (see my other message). Answer: > sysctl -w vfs.nfs.gatherdelay=0 Excellent. > > Try reading the Samba documentation (in the docs/textdocs subdirectory of > > the samba source code). > > Samba started to perform reasonably well (870KB/s on write via 10MBit/s) > after "sysctl -w net.inet.tcp.delayed_ack=0". I wonder why an option in > the smb.conf had no effect. I'm sure I managed to get samba to use TCP_NODELAY with an option. Its been a while since I had to tune a samba installation. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 181 442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 13:16:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from andyo.prime.net (P1M4.prime.net.ua [195.64.229.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C9B314C18; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:16:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Received: from prime.net.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by andyo.prime.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA00921; Tue, 11 May 1999 23:17:54 +0300 (EET DST) Message-ID: <3738906E.34CAA50C@prime.net.ua> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 23:17:51 +0300 From: =?koi8-r?Q?=E1=CE=C4=D2=C5=CA=20=F7=2E=20=EF=CC=C5=CA=CE=C9=CB?= (Andy V. Oleynik) Reply-To: andyo@prime.net.ua Organization: =?koi8-r?Q?=ED=2D=E9=CE=C6=CF?= X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.5-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, uk, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: elf interpretor References: <3.0.5.32.19990511153039.0080d100@mail.vt.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2.2.7-R I've same prob during "make upgrade" to 3.1-S (now). It's not fatal, but sinternal voice tell me that is not all. So ur question is mine too. Garrett Rose wrote: > Hi, > > I've recently installed enlightenment from a package, along with all the > files necessary to run it. When I tried running it, I got the error > message 'ld-elf.so.1 not found', the elf interpretor. The version of > FreeBSD I currently have is 2.6.6, is this the problem, do I need to ugrade > to 3.X? Or could I just get the elf interpretor for 2.6.6, as well as any > other file I might need? > > Garrett Rose > garose@vt.edu > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- Andy V. Oleynik (When U aim for perfection, U discover it's a moving target ö80) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 13:23:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.lonetree.com (falcon.lonetree.com [207.141.55.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70039150C0 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 13:23:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wolfnet@wolfnet-irc.org) Received: from wolfnet-irc.org (users.wolfnet-irc.org [209.64.46.42]) by falcon.lonetree.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id OAA00980; Tue, 11 May 1999 14:22:52 -0600 Message-ID: <3738923E.3D31A5C3@wolfnet-irc.org> Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 14:25:34 -0600 From: Jonathan Frazier Organization: The WolfNet-IRC Organization X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Schmitt Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Booting 3.1 References: <000a01be9b75$36443070$69ef6ed1@diz.dizx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I had the same problem on 2.2.8-stable and 3.1-stable. I found out that my drive geometry was incorrect. After changing the type of drive in my bios configuration and changing the geometry with FBSD, I never had another problem. Mike Schmitt wrote: > Good points, although on the first I can say nothing: after the F1 DOS F2 > ??? F3 BSD prompt (at which I hit F3), the system freezes. Nothing else. > > Pentium 233MMX, Tyan motherboard, 64mb RAM, single IDE hard disk partitioned > for DOS, Solaris for Intel, and FreeBSD. Intel EtherExpress Pro & DEC PCI > network cards. Mach64 video. IDE CD ROM. I'll make a note of the chipset > when I get access to the machine next. > > As a test, we pulled out all the adapter cards except the video card, and > disconnected the CD ROM. Same result. > > Let me know what else to provide -- this is a mystery to me as well, as I've > installed BSD on several quite similar systems (Tyan motherboards, etc.) and > they've worked fine. > > Thanks in advance! > > Mike > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Daniel C. Sobral [mailto:dcs@newsguy.com] > > Sent: Monday, May 10, 1999 9:30 PM > > To: Mike Schmitt > > Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: Booting 3.1 > > > > > > Mike Schmitt wrote: > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I'm trying to install 3.1-RELEASE on a Pentium 233MMX system. > > I boot off > > > the floppy, and can easily install the entire system off a network > > > connection. After installation, though, the system boots, I > > hit F3 to get > > > FreeBSD to boot, and the entire system locks up tight. Any > > ideas on how to > > > proceed? > > > > Begin by describing what you see during the entire boot process, and > > quoting the last few lines you see. FreeBSD bootstrapping is a > > many-stages process, and saying that it freezes doesn't give us the > > slightest clue on what is freezing. > > > > Second, describe your hardware. "Pentium 233MX" is *not* enough. > > Disk controllers, disks, ram memory, motherboard, chipset, > > everything you can provide. Usually, the problem is located in the > > one piece of information omitted. > > > > -- > > Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) > > dcs@newsguy.com > > dcs@freebsd.org > > > > "Proof of Trotsky's farsightedness is that _none_ of his > > predictions have come true yet." > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Jonathan C. Frazier To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 19:30:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from helios.newcastle.edu.au (helios.newcastle.edu.au [134.148.140.237]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA8514F20 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 19:30:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from c9710216@engmail.newcastle.edu.au) Received: (from c9710216@localhost) by helios.newcastle.edu.au (8.8.5/8.6.9) id MAA08826; Wed, 12 May 1999 12:30:35 +1000 (EST) Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 12:30:35 +1000 (EST) From: Jacob Hart To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: [offtopic] Rain (CPU Cooler for Win95/98) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Since many people from this list have asked where they can download the program, I'll post here. Rain sends HLT instructions to your CPU when it's idle. This lowers the temperature of the processor and thus assists stability on systems that typically run hot. Q: What about a FreeBSD version? A: FreeBSD (and other OSs designed to be run in a 24/7 uptime environment) enable this by default in the kernel. Website for Rain/WaterfallPro containing some useful info: http://cpu.simplenet.com/leading_wintech/ You can grab a (perfectly legal) copy from the following site: http://cpu.simplenet.com/files.htm -jake (obituary) Powered by FreeBSD c9710216@atlas.newcastle.edu.au http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 22:32:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aurora.sol.net (aurora.sol.net [206.55.65.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B95514ED2 for ; Tue, 11 May 1999 22:32:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgreco@aurora.sol.net) Received: (from jgreco@localhost) by aurora.sol.net (8.9.2/8.9.2/SNNS-1.02) id AAA91673 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 12 May 1999 00:32:20 -0500 (CDT) From: Joe Greco Message-Id: <199905120532.AAA91673@aurora.sol.net> Subject: New boot loader question To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 00:32:20 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've got a /boot/loader.rc that looks like set autoboot_delay=15 set console=comconsole set prompt="boot: aurora >" and a serial console. This goes into another machine. My (simple) question, why do the first two "set" commands work and the third does not? If I hit space to abort the autoboot, the prompt does not set, which would be sort of nice because once in a while I get machines a bit confused ("now, let's see, which one is on which port...") ... Joe ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Joe Greco - Systems Administrator jgreco@ns.sol.net Solaria Public Access UNIX - Milwaukee, WI 414/342-4847 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue May 11 22:47:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (lazlo.steam.com [199.108.84.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A6115101; Tue, 11 May 1999 22:47:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cliff@steam.com) Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com [192.168.32.2]) by lazlo.internal.steam.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00559; Tue, 11 May 1999 22:47:26 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 22:47:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Skolnick X-Sender: cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com To: Mike Tancsa Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, luoqi@FreeBSD.ORG, dg@root.com Subject: Re: vm_fault deadlock and PR 8416 ... NOT fixed! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well a few minutes ago my system went into deadlock - and this is with the kern_lock.c dated 5/11. This patch is different than the one in 8416 that solved my problem before. I'd say this the problem is still there. Once again my server is useless, deadlocked. No panic, responding to pings, no ability to do disk I/O or any VM related stuff. An unhappy freebsd user once again, Cliff On Tue, 11 May 1999, Cliff Skolnick wrote: > > I cvsup'ed the new sources and installed the new kernel. I am hopeful that > this will fix the problem, and I'll post if I get another lockup or run a > week without one. > > Thanks again to the FreeBSD team, you guys do rock! > > Cliff > > On Tue, 11 May 1999, Mike Tancsa wrote: > > > At 08:35 PM 5/10/99 -0700, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > >In message <199905110116.SAA00175@implode.root.com>, David Greenman > > >writes: > > >> > > >> There are two patches mentioned in PR 8416...which one are you using? > > > > Thanks to dg@root.com, and luoqi@freebsd.org for the fix to this issue!! I > > noticed the commits go through last night. I have updated my work machine > > and the problem that was triggered by the two finds indeed seems fixed! > > Now I can update my publically exposed (exposed at least to our customers) > > 3.x production machine and I can sleep easier! Did anyone ever say FreeBSD > > rocks! ;-) > > > > ---Mike > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Mike Tancsa, tel 01.519.651.3400 > > Network Administrator, mike@sentex.net > > Sentex Communications www.sentex.net > > Cambridge, Ontario Canada > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > -- > Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain > Steam Tunnel Operations | a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty > cliff@steam.com | nor safety." > http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain Steam Tunnel Operations | a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty cliff@steam.com | nor safety." http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed May 12 0:12: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from callisto.geotec.net (callisto.geotec.net [208.244.246.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 949291529B for ; Wed, 12 May 1999 00:12:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chebon@geotec.net) Received: from geotec.net (apogee.geotec.net [208.244.246.24]) by callisto.geotec.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-60637U8000L800S0V35) with ESMTP id net