From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 0:30:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from silk.telecom.at (silk.telecom.at [194.118.1.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE6CB14EF3 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 00:30:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Markus.Minihold@telecom.at) Received: from telecom.at ([194.118.74.182]) by silk.telecom.at (---) with ESMTP id JAA49158 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 09:28:07 +0200 Message-ID: <37C8E3E5.B40F3FA@telecom.at> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 09:40:21 +0200 From: Markus Minihold X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.11 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FYI: ATAPI CDROM dedection problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I asked on the list some days ago for help on ATAPI CDROM's because these devices are not recognized during installation. I've now finished my installation tests and will present you what combination is dedected and working. My test equipment are 4 PCs, P75, P200, PII-233, PII-450, all assembled with IDE HD and ATAPI CDROM. All PCs have different motherboards and different BIOS versions and functionality. Testet FreeBSD Distributions V 2.2.8, V3.1 and V3.2 HD CDROM STATUS IDE1, Master IDE1, Slave working IDE1, Slave IDE1, Master working IDE2, Master IDE2, Slave working IDE2, Slave IDE2, Master working IDE1, Master IDE2, Master failed IDE1, Master IDE2, Slave failed IDE1, Slave IDE2, Master failed IDE1, Slave IDE2, Slave failed IDE2, Master IDE1, Master failed IDE2, Master IDE1, Slave failed IDE2, Slave IDE1, Master failed IDE2, Slave IDE1, Slave failed Installing a second HD on the IDE controller, where the CDROM has been attached (in the 'failed' cases), has helped. The CDROM has been dedected. Conclusion: An ATAPI CDROM will only be dedected, if you install a HD on the the same IDE controller. I think, this should be treated as a _bug_ in the dedection routine of the kernel's ide part . As a comparison, I've tried to install Linux. Linux dedected the ATAPI CDROM in _any_ combination. Markus To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 1: 7:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from unicorn.blackhats.org (unicorn.blackhats.org [194.109.83.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D51114DC0; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 01:07:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from unicorn@unicorn.blackhats.org) Received: (from unicorn@localhost) by unicorn.blackhats.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA18138; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:07:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from unicorn) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:07:08 +0200 From: The Unicorn To: hoek@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Alex Perel , "Jordan K. Hubbard" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Interesting way to crash a 3.2-stable box... Message-ID: <19990829100708.H29581@unicorn.blackhats.org> References: <30558.935833134@localhost> <19990829012521.C55756@ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i In-Reply-To: <19990829012521.C55756@ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com> X-Files: The Truth Is Out There! Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 01:25:22AM -0400, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > On Sat, Aug 28, 1999 at 10:20:11PM -0400, Alex Perel wrote: > > > > print FOO " " x 3000; > > b$ print > bash: print: command not found Hehehe, in perl of course ;-) > The version I earlier sent Jordan in email works, though. :-) This one too! I use it all the time to generate buffer overflows ;-) ---end quoted text--- Ciao, Unicorn. -- ======= _ __,;;;/ TimeWaster ================================================ ,;( )_, )~\| A Truly Wise Man Never Plays PGP: 64 07 5D 4C 3F 81 22 73 ;; // `--; Leapfrog With A Unicorn... 52 9D 87 08 51 AA 35 F0 ==='= ;\ = | ==== Youth is Not a Time in Life, It is a State of Mind! ======= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 1:26:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from staff.cs.usyd.edu.au (staff.cs.usyd.edu.au [129.78.8.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE4851506B for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 01:26:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mhenry@hons.cs.usyd.edu.au) Subject: "top" fixed To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:22:55 +1000 (EST) From: "Michael Henry" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 519 Message-Id: <19990829082615.EE4851506B@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, The problem was that I had stripped my kernel. (My root partition is currently at 99%). I installed an unstripped kernel and have been able to run top and dmesg fine. The following error message was lost in the boot messages: kvm_mkdb: /kernel: stripped: Inappropriate file type or format In my experimenting with stripped kernels, I was able to get one to run top and dmesg, but can't reproduce that at the moment. I'll keep playing around and see if I can do it again. Thanks for the help, Michael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 1:36: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F5B21502B for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 01:35:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21608; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:35:28 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199908290835.KAA21608@gratis.grondar.za> To: "Michael Henry" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "top" fixed Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:35:27 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > In my experimenting with stripped kernels, I was able to get one > to run top and dmesg, but can't reproduce that at the moment. > I'll keep playing around and see if I can do it again. Strip -g ? M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 3:18:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EB311501E for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 03:18:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jesper@wheel.dk) Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7D8CF3E03; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:15:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:15:50 +0200 From: Jesper Skriver To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: newsyslog - absolute time Message-ID: <19990829121550.A5539@skriver.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/0.96.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Accordin to the man page this should do the log rotation at 00:00 /var/log/maillog 664 7 * T000000 Z But newsyslog doesn't like it, I've tried all the examples in the man page, none of them does the trick. Running 3.2-STABLE as of a couple of days ago, anybody got a idea ? # newsyslog newsyslog: malformed interval/at: /var/log/maillog 664 7 * T000000 Z From the man page The particular format of the time is [[[[[cc]yy]mm]dd][T[hh[mm[ss]]]]]. Optional date fields default to the appropriate component of the current date; optional time fields default to midnight; hence if today is January 22, 1999, the following date specifications are all equivalent: `19990122T000000' `990122T000000' `0122T000000' `22T000000' `T000000' `T0000' `T00' `22T' `T' `' /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver (JS4261-RIPE), Network manager Tele Danmark DataNet, IP section (AS3292) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 5:10:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pawn.primelocation.net (pawn.primelocation.net [205.161.238.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2302914C90 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 05:10:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jedgar@fxp.org) Received: from earth.fxp (oca-p1-38.hitter.net [207.192.76.38]) by pawn.primelocation.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59217F818; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 08:08:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 08:08:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "Chris D. Faulhaber" X-Sender: jedgar@earth.fxp To: Markus Minihold Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FYI: ATAPI CDROM dedection problem In-Reply-To: <37C8E3E5.B40F3FA@telecom.at> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 29 Aug 1999, Markus Minihold wrote: > I asked on the list some days ago for help on ATAPI CDROM's because > these devices are not recognized during installation. I've now finished > my installation tests and will present you what combination is dedected > and working. > You may want to provide some vital information here like model numbers of the MB's, drives, etc. Also, the output from booting verbosly may be helpful. Personally, I have two machines here with a single HD as primary/master and a cdrom as secondary/master and have never had a problem with detection. Also, you may want to scan the -current/-hacker archives from the last few weeks. IIRC, there were some discussions regarding IDE/ATAPI detection, standards, and such. Regards, Chris ----- Chris D. Faulhaber | All the true gurus I've met never System/Network Administrator, | claimed they were one and always Reality Check Information, Inc. | pointed to someone better. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 6:58:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2479514EA1; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 06:57:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA80501; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:39:13 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:39:13 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "Brian F. Feldman" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP! Message-ID: <19990829143913.A80035@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Brian F. Feldman on Sat, Aug 28, 1999 at 07:59:12AM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Aug 28, 1999 at 07:59:12AM -0700, Brian F. Feldman wrote: > __FreeBSD_version is going to be bumped up to 320002, Please don't forget to update the list in the Handbook when you do this. Thanks, N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 7:32: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20C0814EA1 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 07:32:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08474 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 16:31:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 16:31:58 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199908291431.QAA08474@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Interesting ways to print 3000 spaces... Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG (was: Re: Interesting way to crash a 3.2-stable box...) The Unicorn wrote in list.freebsd-stable: > On Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 01:25:22AM -0400, Tim Vanderhoek wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 28, 1999 at 10:20:11PM -0400, Alex Perel wrote: > > > > > > print FOO " " x 3000; > > > > b$ print > > bash: print: command not found > > Hehehe, in perl of course ;-) olli@dao-lin-hay:~> perl zsh: command not found: perl This is probably the easiest way: jot -n -s "" -b " " 3000 And this would be a more portable approach (jot is not portable): dd if=/dev/zero bs=3000 count=1 | tr '\0' " " When using zsh, it can be done without exec'ing anything (only using shell-builtins): for f in {1..3000}; do echo -n " "; done It can be done in plain /bin/sh, too, but it's a bit more complicated... (line split for readability): x=" "; while :; do case ${#x} in 3000) break;; esac; x=" $x"; done; echo -n "$x" (Note, however, that ${#x} to get the length of a string is not portable. It _can_ be done in a portable way, but that requires a pretty lengthy shell script, which is available on request.) In m4, the solution is pretty straight-forward, using recursion (split for readability, this has to be on one line, and be sure to get the quoting right, and don't forget the space right befor the second-to-last closing parens -- it's the important one!): echo "define(iii,3000)define(\`foo',\`define(\`iii', decr(iii))ifelse(eval(iii<1),1,,\`foo' )')foo dnl" | m4 Now this one is really interesting (or rather, sick) -- create 3000 spaces with dc: echo "3000[[ ]P1-d0 95275... On a 4.0-current box, m4 behaves exactly the same, but dc goes much further and starts coredumping for values > 621350. (I wrote a shell script to find out those limits, using a binary search algorithm.) There would be another nice solution possible, but... printf '\t' | expand -3000 Expand refuses to use tab stops > 256. :-( I think I'll fix that and submit a PR. Regards Oliver PS: Yeah, I was bored... :-) -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 7:41:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from abc.123.org (123.org [195.244.241.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB80F15738 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 07:41:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from k@abc.123.org) Received: (from k@localhost) by abc.123.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA83757 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 16:40:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from k) Message-ID: <19990829164043.E76943@123.org> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 16:40:43 +0200 From: Kai Voigt To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Interesting ways to print 3000 spaces... References: <199908291431.QAA08474@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <199908291431.QAA08474@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de>; from Oliver Fromme on Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 04:31:58PM +0200 Organization: 123.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Oliver Fromme wrote: > > When using zsh, it can be done without exec'ing anything > (only using shell-builtins): > > for f in {1..3000}; do echo -n " "; done % repeat 3000 echo -n " " :-) Kai -- kai voigt hamburger chaussee 36 24113 kiel 0431-642677 http://k.123.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 7:47: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FC8A15139 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 07:47:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA08709 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 16:44:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 16:44:33 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199908291444.QAA08709@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FYI: ATAPI CDROM dedection problem Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Just for the record, I have a box with a single CD-ROM drive as master on the second IDE channel (no HDs or any other IDE devices), and it's detected fine. (Technical data: ASUS TP4N mainboard, P5-100 running at 75 MHz, old Aztec double-speed CD-ROM drive, worked since 3.0-current, now 4.0-current, still working fine.) By the way, those combinations that involve a slave without a master on the same channel are _not_ supposed to work. They're in violation of the spec: > IDE1, Master IDE2, Slave failed > IDE1, Slave IDE2, Master failed > IDE1, Slave IDE2, Slave failed > IDE2, Master IDE1, Slave failed > IDE2, Slave IDE1, Master failed > IDE2, Slave IDE1, Slave failed So it is not a bug that FreeBSD fails to detect the drives under those circumstances. In the other cases where it failed, I guess that the CD-ROM drive is misbehaving in some way (which is not surprising, given the crappy specification...). Regards Oliver PS: Buy SCSI. :) -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 8: 1:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479A814C2F for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 08:01:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA09297 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 16:59:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 16:59:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199908291459.QAA09297@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Interesting ways to print 3000 spaces... Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kai Voigt wrote in list.freebsd-stable: > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > > When using zsh, it can be done without exec'ing anything > > (only using shell-builtins): > > > > for f in {1..3000}; do echo -n " "; done > > % repeat 3000 echo -n " " Good point. There's an even shorter solution in zsh, which doesn't require 3000 calls to the echo function: echo -n ${(l:3000:)x+} Your turn. :) Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 10: 6:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from locutus.omen.com.au (reggae-15-43.nv.iinet.net.au [203.59.74.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3E231537E for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 10:05:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from deece@newmillennium.net.au) Received: from picard (picard [203.8.109.107]) by locutus.omen.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.2) with SMTP id BAA06752 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 01:06:42 +0800 (WST) (envelope-from deece@newmillennium.net.au) Message-ID: <001d01bef2be$377560e0$6b6d08cb@omen.com.au> From: "Alastair D'Silva" To: References: <199908291459.QAA09297@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Subject: Re: Interesting ways to print 3000 spaces... Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 01:03:51 -0700 Organization: New Millennium Networking MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For a low-tech solution . . . how about setting your screen width to 100 chars and holding space down till 30 lines have passed? *g* __ __ _____ Alastair D'Silva / \ / \ / ____) Networking Consultant deece@newmillennium.net.au ____/ /\ \/ /\ \/ / New Millennium Networking 0413 485 733 (_____/ \__/ \__/ http://www.newmillennium.net.au ----- Original Message ----- From: Oliver Fromme To: Sent: Sunday, 29 August 1999 7:59 Subject: Re: Interesting ways to print 3000 spaces... > Kai Voigt wrote in list.freebsd-stable: > > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > > > > When using zsh, it can be done without exec'ing anything > > > (only using shell-builtins): > > > > > > for f in {1..3000}; do echo -n " "; done > > > > % repeat 3000 echo -n " " > > Good point. There's an even shorter solution in zsh, which > doesn't require 3000 calls to the echo function: > > echo -n ${(l:3000:)x+} > > Your turn. :) > > Regards > Oliver > > -- > Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany > (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) > > "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" > (Terry Pratchett) > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 11: 3:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9EAF156D9 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 11:03:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA13335 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 20:02:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 20:02:09 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199908291802.UAA13335@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Interesting ways to print 3000 spaces... Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Replying to myself... > [...] > There would be another nice solution possible, but... > > printf '\t' | expand -3000 > > Expand refuses to use tab stops > 256. :-( > I think I'll fix that and submit a PR. bin/13453 By the way, a friend of mine suggested the following as an alternative. This is probably the easiest way to create 3000 spaces: printf "%3000s" Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 11:56:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp11.bellglobal.com (smtp11.bellglobal.com [204.101.251.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1081414DD2 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 11:56:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vanderh@ecf.toronto.edu) Received: from ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com (ppp18339.on.bellglobal.com [206.172.130.19]) by smtp11.bellglobal.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id PAA13086 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:00:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from tim@localhost) by ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA60279 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:57:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tim) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:57:02 -0400 From: Tim Vanderhoek To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Interesting ways to print 3000 spaces... Message-ID: <19990829145702.A45450@ppp18415.on.bellglobal.com> Reply-To: hoek@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199908291431.QAA08474@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95i In-Reply-To: <199908291431.QAA08474@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de>; from Oliver Fromme on Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 04:31:58PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 04:31:58PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > When using zsh, it can be done without exec'ing anything > (only using shell-builtins): > > for f in {1..3000}; do echo -n " "; done Actually, with our /bin/sh you can I think avoid execing and do this, c=1 while [ $c -le 3000 ] do c=$(($c + 1)) echo -n ' ' done -- This is my .signature which gets appended to the end of my messages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 12:28:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA98914E1E for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:28:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA15064 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 21:27:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from olli) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 21:27:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199908291927.VAA15064@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Interesting ways to print 3000 spaces... Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tim Vanderhoek wrote in list.freebsd-stable: > On Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 04:31:58PM +0200, Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > > When using zsh, it can be done without exec'ing anything > > (only using shell-builtins): > > > > for f in {1..3000}; do echo -n " "; done > > Actually, with our /bin/sh you can I think avoid execing and do this, > > c=1 > while [ $c -le 3000 ] > do > c=$(($c + 1)) > echo -n ' ' > done That works, but there is an exec: ``['' is not built-in. Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 12:29:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.its.rpi.edu (mail1.its.rpi.edu [128.113.100.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22E10150AB for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 12:29:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail1.its.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA31328 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:28:23 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <199908291459.QAA09297@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> References: <199908291459.QAA09297@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:28:52 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: Interesting ways to print 3000 spaces... Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 4:59 PM +0200 8/29/99, Oliver Fromme wrote: >Good point. There's an even shorter solution in zsh, which >doesn't require 3000 calls to the echo function: > > echo -n ${(l:3000:)x+} > >Your turn. :) In bash, type echo ' then an esc character, then the number 3000, then a blank, a closing single-quote, and a return. --- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or drosih@rpi.edu Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 13: 0:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D181502C for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 13:00:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02257 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 13:00:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Interesting ways to print 3000 spaces... In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 29 Aug 1999 16:31:58 +0200." <199908291431.QAA08474@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 13:00:55 -0700 Message-ID: <2252.935956855@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Um, has everyone here gone INSANE? We have a crash bug. It needs to be fixed. We DO NOT need to know how to print 3000 spaces in 11 different languages! :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 13:22:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (alecto.physics.uiuc.edu [130.126.8.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEBC91507C for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 13:22:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from igor@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu) Received: (from igor@localhost) by alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (8.9.0/8.9.0) id PAA22126 for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:22:19 -0500 (CDT) From: Igor Roshchin Message-Id: <199908292022.PAA22126@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu> Subject: Re: Interesting ways to print 3000 spaces... (fwd) To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:22:19 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It looks like this 3000 spaces crash bug is twofold: It crashes both, the computer and the FreeBSD community :) So, both effects are to be fixed ;) ----- Forwarded message from Jordan K. Hubbard ----- Um, has everyone here gone INSANE? We have a crash bug. It needs to be fixed. We DO NOT need to know how to print 3000 spaces in 11 different languages! :-) - Jordan ----- End of forwarded message from Jordan K. Hubbard ----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 13:52:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.uni-bielefeld.de (mail.uni-bielefeld.de [129.70.4.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829FA1518C for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 13:52:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bfischer@Techfak.uni-bielefeld.de) Received: from frolic.no-support.loc (ppp36-355.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de) by mail.uni-bielefeld.de (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.03.02.17.58.p5) with ESMTP id <0FH800ML5VB2EE@mail.uni-bielefeld.de> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:52:15 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from bjoern@localhost) by frolic.no-support.loc (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA02822; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:40:54 +0200 (CEST envelope-from bjoern) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:40:54 +0200 From: Bjoern Fischer Subject: crypto ctm deltas To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Mark Murray Message-id: <19990829224054.A289@frolic.no-support.loc> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Mark, there were some commits for export restricted code in /src/secure and /src/crypto in the -STABLE tree. Could we expect a ctm delta for these changes on ftp.internat.freebsd.org? Thank you. Bj=F6rn Fischer --=20 -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- GCS d--(+) s++: a- C+++(-) UB++++OSI++++$ P+++(-) L+++(--) !E W- N+ o>+ K- !w !O !M !V PS++ PE- PGP++ t+++ !5 X++ tv- b+++ D++ G e+ h-- y+=20 ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 14:52:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from field.videotron.net (field.videotron.net [205.151.222.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C8EE1511D for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 14:52:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luc_m@videotron.ca) Received: from videotron.ca ([207.96.216.18]) by field.videotron.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.03.02.17.58.p5) with ESMTP id <0FH80018UY15S1@field.videotron.net> for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:51:06 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:53:10 -0400 From: Luc Morin Subject: Buildworld fails on rcsfreeze To: stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <37C9ABC6.7BB8912A@videotron.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, just to report that an attempted buildworld on today's -stable source (sunday aug. 29, around 16:00 EST), fails at the following place when built with the -j 4 option: ===> usr.bin/strip rm -f maybe_stripped strip strip.o strip.1aout.gz strip.1aout.cat.gz rm -f .depend /usr/src/usr.bin/strip/GPATH /usr/src/usr.bin/strip/GRTAGS /usr/src/usr.bin/strip/GSYMS /usr/src/usr.bin/strip/GTAGS 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error BUT, if I don't use the -j 4 option, it fails at the following place: ===> gnu/usr.bin/rcs/rcsfreeze make: don't know how to make cleandir. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. I couldn't figure out the reason for the 1st error, but the 2nd error seems to be generated because the Makefile for rcsfreeze is empty. Regards, -- Luc Morin Electrical Engineering Technologist To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 15:24:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from csi-admin1.cisco.com (csi-admin1.cisco.com [144.254.79.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B604A15165 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:24:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sboharon@cisco.com) Received: from cisco.com ([144.254.78.114]) by csi-admin1.cisco.com (8.8.4-Cisco.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id BAA20941 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 01:27:34 +0300 (IDT) Message-ID: <37C9B4D6.F3A9C000@cisco.com> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 01:31:50 +0300 From: Shali Boharon Organization: Cisco Systems X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 2.2.7-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe FreeBSD-stable@FreeBSD.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 15:32:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from area51.fremont.ca.us (c158457-a.frmt1.sfba.home.com [24.9.169.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF86515165 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:32:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mharo@area51.fremont.ca.us) Received: (from mharo@localhost) by area51.fremont.ca.us (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA81752; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:32:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mharo) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 15:32:51 -0700 From: Michael Haro To: Luc Morin Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Buildworld fails on rcsfreeze Message-ID: <19990829153251.B79322@patrol.area51.fremont.ca.us> Reply-To: mharo@freebsd.org References: <37C9ABC6.7BB8912A@videotron.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <37C9ABC6.7BB8912A@videotron.ca>; from Luc Morin on Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 05:53:10PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This was fixed in -stable about an hour ago. Michael On Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 05:53:10PM -0400, Luc Morin wrote: > Hi, > > just to report that an attempted buildworld on today's -stable source > (sunday aug. 29, around 16:00 EST), fails at the following place when > built with the -j 4 option: > > ===> usr.bin/strip > rm -f maybe_stripped strip strip.o strip.1aout.gz strip.1aout.cat.gz > rm -f .depend /usr/src/usr.bin/strip/GPATH /usr/src/usr.bin/strip/GRTAGS > /usr/src/usr.bin/strip/GSYMS /usr/src/usr.bin/strip/GTAGS > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > > > BUT, if I don't use the -j 4 option, it fails at the following place: > > ===> gnu/usr.bin/rcs/rcsfreeze > make: don't know how to make cleandir. Stop > *** Error code 2 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > > I couldn't figure out the reason for the 1st error, but the 2nd error > seems to be generated because the Makefile for rcsfreeze is empty. > > Regards, > > -- > Luc Morin > Electrical Engineering Technologist > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 16:20:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (border.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9C2515246 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 16:20:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <40333>; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:18:41 +1000 Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:20:01 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: Interesting ways to print 3000 spaces... In-reply-to: <2252.935956855@localhost> To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <99Aug30.091841est.40333@border.alcanet.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: >Um, has everyone here gone INSANE? Not at all. We're just concentrating on the more interesting aspects of the problem that you raised :-). Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 16:35:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.theinternet.com.au (zeus.theinternet.com.au [203.34.176.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AD67151DD for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 16:35:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from akm@mail.theinternet.com.au) Received: (from akm@localhost) by mail.theinternet.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id JAA73359; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:33:54 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from akm) From: Andrew Kenneth Milton Message-Id: <199908292333.JAA73359@mail.theinternet.com.au> Subject: Re: Interesting ways to print 3000 spaces... In-Reply-To: <99Aug30.091841est.40333@border.alcanet.com.au> from Peter Jeremy at "Aug 30, 1999 9:20: 1 am" To: jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (Peter Jeremy) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:33:54 +1000 (EST) Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG +----[ Peter Jeremy ]--------------------------------------------- | "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: | >Um, has everyone here gone INSANE? | | Not at all. We're just concentrating on the more interesting aspects | of the problem that you raised :-). I would have said acting like first year undergraduates d8) Solving some peripheral part of a problem in some clever way rather than actually solving the problem, and then hoping for partial credit d8). -- Totally Holistic Enterprises Internet| P:+61 7 3870 0066 | Andrew The Internet (Aust) Pty Ltd | F:+61 7 3870 4477 | Milton ACN: 082 081 472 | M:+61 416 022 411 |72 Col .Sig PO Box 837 Indooroopilly QLD 4068 |akm@theinternet.com.au|Specialist To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 17: 3:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from falla.videotron.net (falla.videotron.net [205.151.222.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA7014BF1 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:03:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from luc_m@videotron.ca) Received: from videotron.ca ([207.96.216.18]) by falla.videotron.net (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.1999.03.02.17.58.p5) with ESMTP id <0FH900J1D44P4E@falla.videotron.net> for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 20:02:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 20:04:54 -0400 From: Luc Morin Subject: Re: Buildworld fails on rcsfreeze To: stable@freebsd.org Message-id: <37C9CAA6.7F98018A@videotron.ca> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Accept-Language: en References: <37C9ABC6.7BB8912A@videotron.ca> <19990829153251.B79322@patrol.area51.fremont.ca.us> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michael Haro wrote: > > This was fixed in -stable about an hour ago. > > Michael > Thanks... I cvsuped again and now all seems fine. -- Luc Morin Electrical Engineering Technologist To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 17:39:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.he.net (mail.he.net [165.90.49.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE92914DE4 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:39:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from manek@best.com) Received: from pantha.tyga.com (mail.tyga.com [207.33.7.211]) by mail.he.net (8.8.6/8.8.2) with ESMTP id RAA11798 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:39:36 -0700 Received: from after (208.25.55.44) by pantha.tyga.com with SMTP (Apple Internet Mail Server 1.1.1); Sun, 29 Aug 1999 16:47:24 -0800 From: "Sameer R. Manek" To: Subject: RE: Interesting ways to print 3000 spaces... Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:39:23 -0700 Message-ID: <000201bef280$1b3a64e0$2200000a@after.school.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 In-Reply-To: <199908291459.QAA09297@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Oliver Fromme > Sent: Sunday, August 29, 1999 7:59 AM > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Interesting ways to print 3000 spaces... > > > Kai Voigt wrote in list.freebsd-stable: > > Oliver Fromme wrote: > > > > > > When using zsh, it can be done without exec'ing anything > > > (only using shell-builtins): > > > > > > for f in {1..3000}; do echo -n " "; done > > > > % repeat 3000 echo -n " " > > Good point. There's an even shorter solution in zsh, which > doesn't require 3000 calls to the echo function: > > echo -n ${(l:3000:)x+} > > Your turn. :) > While I'm sure everyone is impressed with your ability to create 3000 spaces this is off lists' topic. There are probably 3000 ways to do that in as many languages. This thread should be considered dead, anyone who wants to continue discussion, private email. Sameer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 17:40:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from binnacle.wantabe.com (binnacle.wantabe.com [209.16.8.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8C314DE4 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:40:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeffrl@wantabe.com) Received: from localhost (jeffrl@localhost) by binnacle.wantabe.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id TAA00464 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:40:25 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeffrl@wantabe.com) X-Authentication-Warning: binnacle.wantabe.com: jeffrl owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 19:40:25 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jeffrey J. Libman" To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: re: what rev am i? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i feel really dumb, but here goes: i just did my first cvsup (stable-supfile) and make buildworld and install. now...where do i look to determine the actual revision of freebsd i am running? i've seen mention of 3.20001 and a 3.3...and i really wanna know! thanks in advance. cheers, jeff | |\ +------------------------------+ Jeffrey J. Libman, ops. mgr. | \ | Wantabe Internet Services | Wantabe, Inc. |__\ +------------------------------+ jeffrl@wantabe.com <-----|------> | access web cgi ftp news mail | (281) 493-0718 __,.-=\'`^`'~=-../__,.-= +------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 17:42:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id 23DB014F1D; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:42:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16EC91CD8C4; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:42:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@hub.freebsd.org) Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 17:42:50 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: "Jeffrey J. Libman" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: re: what rev am i? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 29 Aug 1999, Jeffrey J. Libman wrote: > i feel really dumb, but here goes: > > i just did my first cvsup (stable-supfile) and make buildworld and > install. now...where do i look to determine the actual revision of freebsd > i am running? i've seen mention of 3.20001 and a 3.3...and i really wanna > know! 3.2-STABLE as of the date you cvsupped. Please see http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/stable.html Kris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 18:49: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.bby.com.au (ns.bby.com.au [192.83.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9700B14C1B for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 18:49:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by fw.bby.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) id LAA02894; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:46:56 +1000 (EST) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au(192.168.71.20) via SMTP by fw.bby.com.au, id smtpd002892; Mon Aug 30 01:46:51 1999 Received: from lightning (lightning [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA29906; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:46:51 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199908300146.LAA29906@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: "Jeffrey J. Libman" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: dump to remote system aborting In-reply-to: Your message of Sat, 28 Aug 1999 22:28:44 -0500. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:46:51 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > DUMP: dumping (Pass IV) [regular files] > DUMP: master/slave protocol botched. > DUMP: The ENTIRE dump is aborted. If the .bashrc/.cshrc/. file for the tape user (usually root) on the remote (tape) host prints anything to stdout, then this error will occur. A typical culprit is an stty command that works fine for login, but puts out a "not a tty" error message when used from rsh. You can check this by running something like "rsh tapehost -l remuser ls /" from the dump host and seeing if anything unusual happens. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 22:12: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.greatbasin.net (mail.greatbasin.net [207.228.35.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EB8415221 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:12:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@jgl.reno.nv.us) Received: from jgl.reno.nv.us (rno-max6-38.gbis.net [207.228.61.166]) by mail.greatbasin.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA16384; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from danco (danco.home [10.0.0.2]) by jgl.reno.nv.us (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id WAA23534; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:10:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@jgl.reno.nv.us) Message-ID: <024f01bef2a6$0abcf080$0200000a@danco.home> From: "Dan O'Connor" To: "Jeffrey J. Libman" , Subject: Re: what rev am i? Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:10:14 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Have you done a 'make world' and recompiled your kernel since you CVSup'ped your sources? Until you do that, you're still at your old version. Type 'uname -v' to see what you're running. --Dan ** The thing I like most about Windows 98 is... ** You can download FreeBSD with it! -----Original Message----- From: Jeffrey J. Libman To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Sunday, August 29, 1999 6:00 PM Subject: re: what rev am i? >i feel really dumb, but here goes: > >i just did my first cvsup (stable-supfile) and make buildworld and >install. now...where do i look to determine the actual revision of freebsd >i am running? i've seen mention of 3.20001 and a 3.3...and i really wanna >know! > >thanks in advance. > >cheers, >jeff > > | > |\ +------------------------------+ >Jeffrey J. Libman, ops. mgr. | \ | Wantabe Internet Services | >Wantabe, Inc. |__\ +------------------------------+ >jeffrl@wantabe.com <-----|------> | access web cgi ftp news mail | >(281) 493-0718 __,.-=\'`^`'~=-../__,.-= +------------------------------+ > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 22:27: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from unicorn.blackhats.org (unicorn.blackhats.org [194.109.83.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9701A15165 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:26:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from unicorn@unicorn.blackhats.org) Received: (from unicorn@localhost) by unicorn.blackhats.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA24752; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 07:21:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from unicorn) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 07:21:35 +0200 From: The Unicorn To: "Jeffrey J. Libman" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: what rev am i? Message-ID: <19990830072135.I29581@unicorn.blackhats.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i In-Reply-To: X-Files: The Truth Is Out There! Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Aug 29, 1999 at 07:40:25PM -0500, Jeffrey J. Libman wrote: > i feel really dumb, but here goes: > > i just did my first cvsup (stable-supfile) and make buildworld and > install. now...where do i look to determine the actual revision of freebsd > i am running? i've seen mention of 3.20001 and a 3.3...and i really wanna > know! uname -a? > thanks in advance. > > cheers, > jeff ---end quoted text--- Ciao, Unicorn. -- ======= _ __,;;;/ TimeWaster ================================================ ,;( )_, )~\| A Truly Wise Man Never Plays PGP: 64 07 5D 4C 3F 81 22 73 ;; // `--; Leapfrog With A Unicorn... 52 9D 87 08 51 AA 35 F0 ==='= ;\ = | ==== Youth is Not a Time in Life, It is a State of Mind! ======= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 22:39:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from poboxer.pobox.com (ferg5200-2-83.cpinternet.com [208.149.16.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0D3C1528C for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 22:39:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alk@poboxer.pobox.com) Received: (from alk@localhost) by poboxer.pobox.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id AAA60877; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 00:37:24 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from alk) From: Anthony Kimball MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 00:37:24 -0500 (CDT) X-Face: \h9Jg:Cuivl4S*UP-)gO.6O=T]]@ncM*tn4zG);)lk#4|lqEx=*talx?.Gk,dMQU2)ptPC17cpBzm(l'M|H8BUF1&]dDCxZ.c~Wy6-j,^V1E(NtX$FpkkdnJixsJHE95JlhO 5\M3jh'YiO7KPCn0~W`Ro44_TB@&JuuqRqgPL'0/{):7rU-%.*@/>q?1&Ed Reply-To: alk@pobox.com To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Interesting ways to print 3000 spaces... (fwd) X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14282.6239.458314.433477@avalon.east> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Um, has everyone here gone INSANE? We may be dangerously close to the Goedel number of the human mind. ("My dog, he has no nose....") To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Aug 29 23:38:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601A115268 for ; Sun, 29 Aug 1999 23:38:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27257; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:35:57 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199908300635.IAA27257@gratis.grondar.za> To: Bjoern Fischer Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: crypto ctm deltas Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:35:57 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Could we expect a ctm delta for these changes on ftp.internat.freebsd.org? Yes. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 30 1: 3:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt011n65.san.rr.com (dt010nb9.san.rr.com [204.210.12.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395BF15124; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 01:03:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt011n65.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA01631; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 01:01:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <37CA3A3E.2C012846@gorean.org> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 01:01:02 -0700 From: Doug Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: $FreeBSD-friendly version of mergemaster available Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For those who are not aware, the CVS $Id tags in our tree have been changed to $FreeBSD for both -Current and -Stable. Because mergemaster relies on these tags I've added that functionality to it. However I have some other changes planned, so I'm not ready to re-roll the port yet. If you plan to upgrade between now and 3.3-Release you can grab the new version at http://freebsd.simplenet.com/mergemaster-1.25. Enjoy, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 30 3:16:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from binnacle.wantabe.com (binnacle.wantabe.com [209.16.8.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96ED215289; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 03:16:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeffrl@wantabe.com) Received: from localhost (jeffrl@localhost) by binnacle.wantabe.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id FAA01528; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 05:16:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeffrl@wantabe.com) X-Authentication-Warning: binnacle.wantabe.com: jeffrl owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 05:16:09 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jeffrey J. Libman" To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: re: what rev am i? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ok...but uname -a shows: FreeBSD binnacle.wantabe.com 3.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE #2: Sun May 16 14:18:41 CDT 1999 jeffrl@binnacle.wantabe.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BINNACLE i386 now i'm really confused. i did the cvsup using: *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3 and did make buildworld followed by make installworld. i then rebuilt the kernel as per the instructions. so why does uname -a still show revision 3.1? sorry to be such a pain! cheers, jeff | |\ +------------------------------+ Jeffrey J. Libman, ops. mgr. | \ | Wantabe Internet Services | Wantabe, Inc. |__\ +------------------------------+ jeffrl@wantabe.com <-----|------> | access web cgi ftp news mail | (281) 493-0718 __,.-=\'`^`'~=-../__,.-= +------------------------------+ On Sun, 29 Aug 1999, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, 29 Aug 1999, Jeffrey J. Libman wrote: > > > i feel really dumb, but here goes: > > > > i just did my first cvsup (stable-supfile) and make buildworld and > > install. now...where do i look to determine the actual revision of freebsd > > i am running? i've seen mention of 3.20001 and a 3.3...and i really wanna > > know! > > 3.2-STABLE as of the date you cvsupped. > > Please see > > http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/stable.html > > Kris > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 30 3:36:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from staff.cs.usyd.edu.au (staff.cs.usyd.edu.au [129.78.8.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B7FB11590E for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 03:35:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mhenry@black.ug.cs.usyd.edu.au) Subject: softupdates & syncer To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 20:35:41 +1000 (EST) From: "Michael Kenneth Henry" Content-Type: text Content-Length: 251 Message-Id: <19990830103559.B7FB11590E@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, In the softupdates documentation it says I need to "Comment out the update program in /etc/rc". I assume this is the syncer daemon, but I haven't been able to find a reference to it in /etc/rc. Can anyone enlighten me? Thanks, Michael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 30 4:19:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from megaweapon.zigg.com (megaweapon.zigg.com [206.114.60.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FDB6150ED; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 04:19:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by megaweapon.zigg.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA01151; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 07:19:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 07:19:34 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Behrens To: "Jeffrey J. Libman" Cc: Kris Kennaway , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: re: what rev am i? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, Jeffrey J. Libman wrote: : so why does uname -a still show revision 3.1? Did you reboot? :-) Seriously, double-check the date of the kernel, maybe you didn't do the ``make install'' in the kernel directory or something... Matt Behrens Owner/Administrator, zigg.com Chief Engineer, Nameless IRC Network To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 30 5:38:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53D8A14ECE for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 05:38:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11LQhm-000MiY-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:38:34 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: REQ: Test patch on PR 10115 Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:38:34 +0200 Message-ID: <87329.936016714@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks, I'm looking for someone to push the RELENG_3 patch on PR 10115 through a ``make world'' on a STABLE box. Ideally, I'd like the change to go in before the release, since it removes confusing cruft that's been around far too long. Mail me privately and I'll post feedback to the list once I know whether it works. That way we don't get a flood of "me too" messages. :-) Thanks, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 30 5:49:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uncle.cult.cu (uncle.cult.cu [169.158.120.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5610C14D64 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 05:48:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from elie@uncle.cult.cu) Received: from localhost (1674 bytes) by uncle.cult.cu via sendmail with P:stdio/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:48:30 -0400 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #4 built 1998-Sep-15) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:48:30 -0400 (CDT) From: Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Fri, Aug 27, 1999 at 04:39:44PM -0400, Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez wrote: > > > > During my first (finally successfull) upgrade of my 2.2.6 system to 3.2 > > stable I encountered, due to my ignorance, problems arising from the > > lacking of the MACHINE_ARCH variable in my environment. I didn't know it > > should be set before firing make aout-to-elf-build, although I realize (of > > course) it should be set to i386 'cause I'm a PC user. > > If MACHINE_ARCH is undefined, it means i386 (historically in FreeBSD). > MACHINE_ARCH should never by the user. Please don't suggest to people > that they do that. If there is a problem with the aout-to-elf-build > barfing because MACHINE_ARCH is not set, then a different fix is required. > > -- > John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ > CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 > Sorry, but I did not want to suggest nothing to people, I just ran into this problem and someone in the list told me it could be this variable. I just want to know if there area really any variables that should be set prior to run the make whatever. Anyway, in order for me to succeed I had nothing left but setting it by hand myself, 'cause I never received any other advice. Sorry if this 'causes problem here in the list, I'm just looking for help. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 30 6:18:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uncle.cult.cu (uncle.cult.cu [169.158.120.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21B2157A2 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 06:18:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from elie@uncle.cult.cu) Received: from localhost (1007 bytes) by uncle.cult.cu via sendmail with P:stdio/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:17:26 -0400 (CDT) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #4 built 1998-Sep-15) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:17:26 -0400 (CDT) From: Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez To: John Birrell Cc: ian j hart , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some important environment variables. In-Reply-To: <19990828090157.B36761@freebsd1.cimlogic.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I guessed that 'unknown' should be i386, and *fixed* /etc/make.conf so that > > it worked. I would be interested to know what the correct fix is. In any > > case someone needs to look at this PDQ. > > The bug is in `make'. "unknown" should be replaced by "i386" so that > the behaviour is the same as when MACHINE_ARCH was not defined at all. > > -- Pardon: Do you mind, explaining once again and more detaily, how do I fixed /etc/make.conf to set architecture = i386 ? Thanks in advance. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 30 6:42:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail-out.visi.com (kauket.visi.com [209.98.98.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A1615239 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 06:42:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from veldy@visi.com) Received: from isis.visi.com (isis.visi.com [209.98.98.8]) by mail-out.visi.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 568E736FD for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:42:38 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (veldy@localhost) by isis.visi.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA12471 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:42:38 -0500 (CDT) X-Authentication-Warning: isis.visi.com: veldy owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:42:38 -0500 (CDT) From: Thomas Veldhouse To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: NFS problem at boot? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yesterday, I downloaded the snaptshot, 0829, for 3.2-STABLE and I have noticed what appears to me to be a bug. I have not been able to track down the cause. During installation, I chose the option to set up my machine as a NFS Server. I added the following line to my /etc/exports file: /usr/src -alldirs 192.168.0.3 I was hoping to make my src available to another machine I am planning on upgrading. The other machine is too slow to compile the kernel, so I want to install it via NFS from the fast machine. Anyway, the machine I just installed the snapshot on gives me an error on boot up after a long pause when trying to load rpc.statd. The error (sorry, I am paraphrasing a bit) says that nfsd failed to register udp with portmap. Well, I made sure portmap was running. I also tried removing the -u option from the nfsd options, but then I get the same error with tcp. I never had this problem under 3.1 (or perhaps even 3.2-RELEASE), so something has gone sour. Can anybody tell me what is wrong here so that I can continue my installation? Thanks in advance, Tom Veldhouse veldy@visi.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 30 7:46: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web1.aps-services.com (adsl-209-232-134-22.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net [209.232.134.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5611114C83 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 07:45:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from davey@web1.aps-services.com) Received: from dave ([192.168.0.12]) by web1.aps-services.com (8.9.1/8.8.6) with SMTP id HAA06623; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 07:41:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199908301441.HAA06623@web1.aps-services.com> From: takuan@allunix.com To: Jeff.Baker@ACADHOTLINE.net.au Date: Sun, 29 Aug 1999 07:50:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable Subject: RE:newbe Cc: stable@freebsd.org X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.11) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jeff, Has anybody offered to help you yet? Although I am not as knowledgeable as most of the people who subscribe to = this list, I would be glad to offer my assistance anyway. For the life of me, I cannot understand how one of the FreeBSD=92s leaders= would just respond to tell you that the list was not the place for questions lik= e yours. He could of at least tried to point you in the right direction. If I were you I might consider checking out NetBSD or OpenBSD because mayb= e the organization which controls the direction of the operating systems mig= ht be more inclined to welcome a person who is new to the world of open source software. Please email me personally if there is anything I can do to help. Cheers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 30 8:46:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id 116EB15814; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:46:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E781CD8C1; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:46:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@hub.freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 08:46:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: "Jeffrey J. Libman" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: re: what rev am i? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, Jeffrey J. Libman wrote: > ok...but uname -a shows: > > FreeBSD binnacle.wantabe.com 3.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE #2: Sun May > 16 14:18:41 CDT 1999 > jeffrl@binnacle.wantabe.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BINNACLE i386 Your buildworld can't have worked, then. > now i'm really confused. i did the cvsup using: > > *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3 This should be correct. > and did make buildworld followed by make installworld. i then rebuilt the > kernel as per the instructions. > > so why does uname -a still show revision 3.1? Try running make world again - perhaps last time the buildworld phase failed to complete but you didn't notice it before running installworld. Either that, or you have another copy of uname in your path. Kris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 30 9:19:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B0714C02 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:19:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03447 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:18:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id KAA04372 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:17:52 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199908301617.KAA04372@harmony.village.org> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Stable install problems Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 10:17:52 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've had a few problems installing a snapshot from August 18, which may be related to missing files. First, when I boot I get a stack trace when trying to load the boot loader. Second, I get messages on boot saying that nit isn't present in libwrap. Third, when I login as root, I get a raft of missing libraries and pam modules. This is from 3.2-19990818-STABLE doing a minimal installation. Is this a know problem and is more information needed? I'd call these show stoppers for 3.3R. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 30 9:26:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amstech.com (alister.w.easynet.co.uk [212.212.251.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE4C15951 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:26:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frankrj@netscape.net) Received: from netscape.net (localhost.jakinternet.co.uk [127.0.0.1] (may be forged)) by amstech.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA01281; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:28:29 GMT (envelope-from frankrj@netscape.net) Message-ID: <37CABF3C.7A30C7B4@netscape.net> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 17:28:28 +0000 From: Francis Jordan X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com Subject: Re: Interesting ways to print 3000 spaces... References: <99Aug30.091841est.40333@border.alcanet.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > Um, has everyone here gone INSANE? Well it seems that only root can crash the system that way, unless the default permissions on /dev/vn0* are changed. % ls -l /dev/vn* brw-r----- 1 root operator 15, 0x00010002 Dec 29 1998 /dev/vn0 brw-r----- 1 root operator 15, 0 Dec 29 1998 /dev/vn0a brw-r----- 1 root operator 15, 1 Dec 29 1998 /dev/vn0b brw-r----- 1 root operator 15, 2 Dec 29 1998 /dev/vn0c brw-r----- 1 root operator 15, 3 Dec 29 1998 /dev/vn0d brw-r----- 1 root operator 15, 4 Dec 29 1998 /dev/vn0e brw-r----- 1 root operator 15, 5 Dec 29 1998 /dev/vn0f brw-r----- 1 root operator 15, 6 Dec 29 1998 /dev/vn0g brw-r----- 1 root operator 15, 7 Dec 29 1998 /dev/vn0h brw-r----- 1 root operator 15, 0x00020002 Dec 29 1998 /dev/vn0s1 brw-r----- 1 root operator 15, 0x00030002 Dec 29 1998 /dev/vn0s2 brw-r----- 1 root operator 15, 0x00040002 Dec 29 1998 /dev/vn0s3 brw-r----- 1 root operator 15, 0x00050002 Dec 29 1998 /dev/vn0s4 But then if you're root, there are hundreds of other ways to crash the system... For example, # vnconfig -c /dev/vn0a foo # rm foo # vnconfig -u /dev/vn0a (This used to crash 3.1; might still work on -stable, unless fixed recently.) Frank To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 30 9:56:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (quackerjack.cc.vt.edu [198.82.160.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E58814C3B for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 09:56:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jobaldwi@vt.edu) Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by quackerjack.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10972; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:55:36 -0400 (EDT) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (hC6524392.dhcp.vt.edu [198.82.67.146]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA10295; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:55:35 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199908301655.MAA10295@sable.cc.vt.edu> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87329.936016714@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:55:35 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Sheldon Hearn Subject: RE: REQ: Test patch on PR 10115 Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 30-Aug-99 Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I'm looking for someone to push the RELENG_3 patch on PR 10115 > through a > ``make world'' on a STABLE box. Ideally, I'd like the change to go in > before the release, since it removes confusing cruft that's been > around > far too long. > > Mail me privately and I'll post feedback to the list once I know > whether > it works. That way we don't get a flood of "me too" messages. :-) > > Thanks, > Sheldon. I'll test it. --- John Baldwin -- http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jbaldwin/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jbaldwin/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 30 11:44:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail15.svr.pol.co.uk (mail15.svr.pol.co.uk [195.92.193.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB8CA1590E for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 11:44:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ianjhart@freeloader.freeserve.co.uk) Received: from modem-82.scandium.dialup.pol.co.uk ([62.136.10.82] helo=freeloader.freeserve.co.uk) by mail15.svr.pol.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #2) id 11LWNs-00015r-00; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 19:42:25 +0100 Message-ID: <37CAD088.C0321DEB@freeloader.freeserve.co.uk> Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 19:42:16 +0100 From: Ian J Hart X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez Cc: John Birrell , "stable@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Some important environment variables. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez wrote: > > I guessed that 'unknown' should be i386, and *fixed* /etc/make.conf so that > > it worked. I would be interested to know what the correct fix is. In any > > case someone needs to look at this PDQ. > > The bug is in `make'. "unknown" should be replaced by "i386" so that > the behaviour is the same as when MACHINE_ARCH was not defined at all. > >Pardon: > >Do you mind, explaining once again and more detaily, how do I fixed >/etc/make.conf to set architecture = i386 ? > >Thanks in advance. > John Birrell has warned againt manualy setting MACHINE_ARCH. THIS A HACK, NOT A FIX. Sorry if you got the wrong impression. Add the line below to /etc/make.conf All invocations of make will then set the environment variable.This is effectively the same as what you did with setenv. MACHINE_ARCH=i386 If you can find out what is wrong with make, you should fix that instead. John? ian ianjhart@freeloader.freeserve.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 30 12:51:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailbox1.ucsd.edu (mailbox1.ucsd.edu [132.239.1.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C977C15344 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:51:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from btalbot@ucsd.edu) Received: from earthkam.ucsd.edu (thneed.earthkam.ucsd.edu [132.239.242.10]) by mailbox1.ucsd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA01536 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:51:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from celis by earthkam.ucsd.edu (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id MAA09071; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:51:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990830124737.00a54100@ekimaphost> X-Sender: btalbot@ekimaphost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 12:50:56 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Bryan Talbot Subject: re: what rev am i? In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Or perhaps your cvsup put the new sources some were other than /usr/src ?? And you just rebuilt and reinstalled 3.1-release again, although your kernel build date below reports to be May 16'th. What does the rest of your cvs-supfile look like? At 08:46 AM 8/30/99 , Kris Kennaway wrote: >On Mon, 30 Aug 1999, Jeffrey J. Libman wrote: > > > ok...but uname -a shows: > > > > FreeBSD binnacle.wantabe.com 3.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.1-RELEASE #2: Sun May > > 16 14:18:41 CDT 1999 > > jeffrl@binnacle.wantabe.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BINNACLE i386 > > >Try running make world again - perhaps last time the buildworld phase >failed to complete but you didn't notice it before running installworld. >Either that, or you have another copy of uname in your path. > >Kris > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ===================================================================== THIS IS A 100% MATTER MESSAGE: In the unlikely event that this message should contact antimatter in any form, a catastrophic explosion will result. ===================================================================== "I think not!" said Descartes, who promptly disappeared. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 30 13:54:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cimlogic.com.au (cimlog.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.51.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA975159CA for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 13:53:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb@cimlogic.com.au) Received: (from jb@localhost) by cimlogic.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.1) id GAA60638; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 06:56:04 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from jb) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 06:56:03 +1000 From: John Birrell To: Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez Cc: John Birrell , ian j hart , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Some important environment variables. Message-ID: <19990831065603.E36761@freebsd1.cimlogic.com.au> References: <19990828090157.B36761@freebsd1.cimlogic.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez on Mon, Aug 30, 1999 at 09:17:26AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Aug 30, 1999 at 09:17:26AM -0400, Eliezer Rodriguez Gonzalez wrote: > Do you mind, explaining once again and more detaily, how do I fixed > /etc/make.conf to set architecture = i386 ? Edit /usr/src/usr.bin/make/main.c and replace the word "unknown" with "i386". -- John Birrell - jb@cimlogic.com.au; jb@freebsd.org http://www.cimlogic.com.au/ CIMlogic Pty Ltd, GPO Box 117A, Melbourne Vic 3001, Australia +61 418 353 137 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 30 18: 1:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from staff.cs.usyd.edu.au (staff.cs.usyd.edu.au [129.78.8.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 822E5158B2 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 18:01:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mhenry@black.ug.cs.usyd.edu.au) Subject: Re: softupdates & syncer To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:00:35 +1000 (EST) From: "Michael Kenneth Henry" In-Reply-To: <4.2.0.58.19990830153519.00a68320@ekimaphost> from "Bryan Talbot" at Aug 30, 99 03:37:19 pm Content-Type: text Content-Length: 1814 Message-Id: <19990831010122.822E5158B2@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Could you please be specific as to which documents direct you to "comment > out the update program in /etc/rc"? I don't see any mention to that in > either of the softupdate README files. The file is /sys/contrib/softupdates/README. (Also available at: http://lxr.linux.no/freebsd/source/contrib/softupdates/ Here is the specific text that talks about modifying /etc/rc: 156 Kernel Changes 157 158 There are two new changes to the kernel functionality that are not 159 contained in in the soft update files. The first is a `trickle 160 sync' facility running in the kernel as process 3. This trickle 161 sync process replaces the traditional `update' program (which should 162 be commented out of the /etc/rc startup script). . . . 239 Operation 240 241 Once you have booted a kernel that incorporates the soft update 242 code and installed the updated utilities, do the following: 243 244 1) Comment out the update program in /etc/rc. 245 246 2) Run `tunefs -n enable' on one or more test filesystems. 247 248 3) Mount these filesystems and then type `mount' to ensure that 249 they have been enabled for soft updates. 250 251 4) Copy the test directory to a softdep filesystem, chdir into 252 it and run `./doit'. You may want to check out each of the 253 three subtests individually first: doit1 - andrew benchmarks, 254 doit2 - copy and removal of /etc, doit3 - find from /. > > I've been running softupdates and haven't had to touch anything in the > startup scripts to make them work. > > -Bryan > > > At 03:35 AM 8/30/99 , you wrote: > >Hi all, > > > > In the softupdates documentation it says I need to > >"Comment out the update program in /etc/rc". I assume this > >is the syncer daemon, but I haven't been able to find a > >reference to it in /etc/rc. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 30 21:21:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 149A415053 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 21:21:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA05687 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:21:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: (from imp@localhost) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) id WAA08918 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:20:45 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:20:45 -0600 (MDT) From: Warner Losh Message-Id: <199908310420.WAA08918@harmony.village.org> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Problem with -snap boot Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I did a minimal install of 3.2-stable-19990818. Now, when I try to boot, I get the following: F1 FreeBSD Default: F1 - BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01 Console: internal video/keyboard int=000000e err=00000007 efl=00010216 eip=001251c eax=00000400 ebx=00001000 ecx=00001000 edx=00014b08 esi=00014b08 edi=00000029 ebp=00094b70 esp=00094b6c cs=002b ds=0033 es=0033 fs=0033 gs=0033 ss=0033 cs:eip=c7 02 00 00 00 00 83 c2-04 48 75 f4 89 c8 83 e0 ss:esp=00 10 00 00 88 4b 09 00-17 22 01 00 08 4b 01 00 System halted (Note I typed all that in, so I didn't get everything aligned right) Don't know why. If I catch the boot process fast enough, I can boot off of /kernel no problem. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 30 21:27: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 286BC14D70 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 21:27:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA05705 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:25:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: (from imp@localhost) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) id WAA08935 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:24:42 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:24:42 -0600 (MDT) From: Warner Losh Message-Id: <199908310424.WAA08935@harmony.village.org> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Boot problems part 2 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here's the second part of the boot problems. When the system is coming up, I get the following on my console: additional daemons: syslogd. Doing addtional network setup: ntpdate portmap/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: /usr/lib/libwrap.so.2: Undefined symbol "nit" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 30 21:27:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89BD81579A for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 21:27:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA05716 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:27:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: (from imp@localhost) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) id WAA08958 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:26:46 -0600 (MDT) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:26:46 -0600 (MDT) From: Warner Losh Message-Id: <199908310426.WAA08958@harmony.village.org> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: login problem Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Same 990818 minimal install system: When I go to login I get Aug 29 19:32:31 dumpster login: unable to dlopen(/usr/lib/pam_skey.so) Aug 29 19:32:31 dumpster login: [dlerror: /usr/lib/libskey.so.2: Undefined symbol "MD4Final"] Aug 29 19:32:31 dumpster login: adding faulty module: /usr/lib/pam_skey.so Aug 29 19:32:31 dumpster login: unable to dlopen(/usr/lib/pam_cleartext_pass_ok.so) Aug 29 19:32:31 dumpster login: [dlerror: /usr/lib/libskey.so.2: Undefined symbol "MD4Final"] Aug 29 19:32:31 dumpster login: adding faulty module: /usr/lib/pam_cleartext_pass_ok.so Aug 29 19:32:32 dumpster login: unable to dlopen(/usr/lib/pam_unix.so) Aug 29 19:32:32 dumpster login: [dlerror: /usr/lib/pam_unix.so: Undefined symbol "pstr"] Aug 29 19:32:32 dumpster login: adding faulty module: /usr/lib/pam_unix.so Aug 29 19:32:32 dumpster login: auth_pam: Module is unknown in the messages file and similar on the screen. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 30 22:48:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from apollo.backplane.com (apollo.backplane.com [209.157.86.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F68115949 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:48:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon@apollo.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by apollo.backplane.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id WAA20844; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:46:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 22:46:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Dillon Message-Id: <199908310546.WAA20844@apollo.backplane.com> To: tcobb@staff.circle.net Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RE: multipatch #8 available References: <307D63ED6749CF11AAE9005004461A5B4220@FREYA> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :Matt, :Any chance of an -stable MFC on these? : :-Troy Cobb : Circle Net, Inc. : http://www.circle.net I am going to Cc -stable on the response to this excellent question. Yes, most of the NFS performance enhancements can be MFC'd relatively easily. The VN enhancements can be MFC'd except of course for the swap-backed support, which only CURRENT can handle. I am not going to even begin thinking about doing it until the current patchset is actually committed into -current and tested there for a while by a greater number of people. It could be a few weeks due to a number of factors. If someone wishes to MFC the performance related NFS patches after the patch set has been committed to current and allowed some time for wider testing, I won't have any objections and will be available to help. It will save me work :-). Else I may do it myself (though at the moment both my test machines are running -CURRENT so I can do tandem testing of VN/NFS combos). Another option, if someone wants to take this up: The NFS performance enhancements portion of the patchset has stabilized, I do not expect to do any more work on that part of the patchset in the near future so if someone wants to work up a patchset for -STABLE and start their own round of testing for -STABLE, STABLE would get the patches much sooner. Quite a bit of testing of these patches has already occured under CURRENT so the normal 'commit into current before stable' rules can be stretched a little and we can shorten the time frame after the commit into current before the commit into stable. But only if someone actually wants to do the work to port the NFS performance fixes to STABLE now. -Matt (NOTE: this patchset is currently for CURRENT only). :> Sent: Tuesday, August 31, 1999 1:31 AM :> To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG :> Subject: Re: multipatch #8 available :> :> :> I've spent several hours resyncing the source tree and :> revalidating the :> patchset (though w/ the buildworld breakage :> revalidation was not entirely :> complete). Multipatch #8 is now available. :> :> http://www.backplane.com/FreeBSD4/ :>... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 30 23:35:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from drago.cert.org.tw (drago.cert.org.tw [140.117.100.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA8E815949 for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 23:35:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from foxfair@drago.cert.org.tw) Received: from foxfair (foxfair.cc.nsysu.edu.tw [140.117.100.101]) by drago.cert.org.tw (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA07571 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:31:59 +0800 (CST) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:34:06 +0800 From: Foxfair Hu To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: -stable kernel build failed. Message-Id: <37CB775E1E0.8CDBFOXFAIR@drago.cert.org.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.04 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 8/31 12:00 GMT+0800 cvsup to the newest src tree, but my -stable box can't build a new kernel : =================== cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitializ ed -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../ ../../include -DKERNEL -DVM_STACK -include opt_global.h -elf ../../i386/i386/m achdep.c cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitializ ed -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../ ../../include -DKERNEL -DVM_STACK -include opt_global.h -elf ../../i386/i386/m ath_emulate.c cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitializ ed -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../ ../../include -DKERNEL -DVM_STACK -include opt_global.h -elf ../../i386/i386/m em.c ../../i386/i386/mem.c:513: conflicting types for `mem_range_attr_get' ../../sys/memrange.h:63: previous declaration of `mem_range_attr_get' *** Error code 1 ================== Did I miss something ? -Foxfair. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Aug 30 23:44:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC3F21535F for ; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 23:44:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA03068; Mon, 30 Aug 1999 23:37:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199908310637.XAA03068@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Foxfair Hu Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: -stable kernel build failed. In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 31 Aug 1999 14:34:06 +0800." <37CB775E1E0.8CDBFOXFAIR@drago.cert.org.tw> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 30 Aug 1999 23:37:17 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > 8/31 12:00 GMT+0800 cvsup to the newest src tree, but my -stable box > can't build a new kernel : My bad, patch error. Should be fixed now. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 31 0: 8:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (wya-oe9.hotmail.com [207.82.253.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ABCBC1582A for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:08:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wind_prowler@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 25894 invoked by uid 65534); 31 Aug 1999 07:06:01 -0000 Message-ID: <19990831070600.25893.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [203.106.62.10] From: "Nawfal M. Rouyan" To: "FreeBSD 3.2 STABLE" Subject: help..my man page doesn't work Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:15:31 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01BEF3C3.AA3AB8E0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BEF3C3.AA3AB8E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I've just make world yesterday using the stable source tree on = 30-8-99. The process works smoothly but when I typed man command it = doesn't work. the message given by the system is man: unable to make sense of the file /etc/manpath.config could u please tell me what's wrong? thanks ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BEF3C3.AA3AB8E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
   I've just make world = yesterday using=20 the stable source tree on 30-8-99. The process works smoothly but when I = typed=20 man command it doesn't work.
the message given by the system = is
 
     man: unable to = make sense=20 of the file /etc/manpath.config
 
could u please tell me what's = wrong?
thanks
------=_NextPart_000_000F_01BEF3C3.AA3AB8E0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 31 0:10:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from drago.cert.org.tw (drago.cert.org.tw [140.117.100.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDBBA14C37 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:10:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from foxfair@drago.cert.org.tw) Received: from foxfair (foxfair.cc.nsysu.edu.tw [140.117.100.101]) by drago.cert.org.tw (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA07673; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:07:34 +0800 (CST) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 15:09:42 +0800 From: Foxfair Hu To: Mike Smith Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: -stable kernel build failed. In-Reply-To: <199908310637.XAA03068@dingo.cdrom.com> References: <37CB775E1E0.8CDBFOXFAIR@drago.cert.org.tw> <199908310637.XAA03068@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-Id: <37CB7FB6136.2533FOXFAIR@drago.cert.org.tw> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.04 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike, On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 23:37:17 -0700 Mike Smith wrote: > > My bad, patch error. Should be fixed now. > Thanks! This box is the only one running on -stable here, others are all -curent. So I just made sure I didn't miss anything. :) I'll try to cvsup later and report if any problem. > -- > \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith > \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com > Cheers, -Foxfair. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 31 0:36: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.sdca.home.com (ha1.rdc1.sdca.home.com [24.0.3.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5EA01535F for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:35:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from btalbot@ucsd.edu) Received: from ragtop ([24.0.46.246]) by mail.rdc1.sdca.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <19990831073502.LPTP16727.mail.rdc1.sdca.home.com@ragtop> for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:35:02 -0700 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990831003218.00a67740@mail.elcjn1.sdca.home.com> X-Sender: btalbot@ekimaphost (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:34:46 -0700 To: From: Bryan Talbot Subject: Re: help..my man page doesn't work In-Reply-To: <19990831070600.25893.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hmm maybe if you looked at the /etc/manpath.config file or even told us what it contained, someone might have a chance of helping you. Did you update the /etc tree after the make world either with mergemaster or (shudder) by hand? At 12:15 AM 8/31/99 , Nawfal M. Rouyan wrote: >Hi all, > I've just make world yesterday using the stable source tree on > 30-8-99. The process works smoothly but when I typed man command it > doesn't work. >the message given by the system is > > man: unable to make sense of the file /etc/manpath.config > >could u please tell me what's wrong? >thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 31 0:40:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isy.liu.se (isy.liu.se [130.236.48.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74DD515031 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 00:40:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kentp@isy.liu.se) Received: from [130.236.53.104] (allvis.isy.liu.se [130.236.53.104]) by isy.liu.se (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id JAA03648; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:38:42 +0200 (MET DST) X-Sender: kentp@pop.isy.liu.se Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990831070600.25893.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:40:21 +0200 To: "Nawfal M. Rouyan" From: Kent Palmkvist Subject: Re: help..my man page doesn't work Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi all, I've just make world yesterday using the stable source tree= on >30-8-99. The process works smoothly but when I typed man command it doesn'= t >work. the message given by the system is man: unable to make sense = of >the file /etc/manpath.config could u please tell me what's wrong? thanks Please show the contents of the /etc/manpath.config file ... It is hard to give any good answers otherwise. /Kent Kent Palmkvist email: kentp@isy.liu.se Dept. of Electrical Engineering http://www.es.isy.liu.se/staff/kentp Link=F6ping University SE-581 83 LINK=D6PING phone: +46 13 281347 Sweden fax: +46 13 139282 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 31 1:49: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (wya-oe19.hotmail.com [207.82.253.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 72AAD151E0 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 01:49:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wind_prowler@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 51166 invoked by uid 65534); 31 Aug 1999 08:46:19 -0000 Message-ID: <19990831084619.51165.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [203.106.62.10] From: "Nawfal M. Rouyan" To: "FreeBSD 3.2 STABLE" Subject: man page not working... Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:55:38 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01BEF3D1.A692B720" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BEF3D1.A692B720 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I used mergemaster to update /etc. Below is the content of = /etc/manpath.config #$FreeBSD:src/gnu/usr.bin/man/manpath/manpath.config,v1.8.2.6 1999/08/29 = 14:3 3:58 peter Exp $ # # This file is read by manpath(1) to configure the mandatory manpath, # optional manpath and to map each path element to a manpath element. # The format is: # # MANDATORY_MANPATH manpath_element # OPTIONAL_MANPATH manpath_element # MANPATH_MAP path_element manpath_element # # every automatically generated MANPATH includes these fields # MANDATORY_MANPATH /usr/share/man MANDATORY_MANPATH /usr/share/perl/man # # check if the directory exists and if it does, add it to MANPATH # OPTIONAL_MANPATH /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.00503/man # # set up PATH to MANPATH mapping # MANPATH_MAP /bin /usr/share/man MANPATH_MAP /usr/bin /usr/share/man MANPATH_MAP /usr/local/bin /usr/local/man MANPATH_MAP /usr/X11R6/bin /usr/X11R6/man thanks... ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BEF3D1.A692B720 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I used mergemaster to update /etc. = Below is=20 the content of /etc/manpath.config
 
#$FreeBSD:src/gnu/usr.bin/man/manpath/manpath.config,v1.8.2.6 = 1999/08/29=20 14:3
3:58 peter Exp $
#
# This file is read by manpath(1) to = configure=20 the mandatory manpath,
# optional manpath and to map each path = element to a=20 manpath element.
# The format is:
#
#=20 MANDATORY_MANPATH         &n= bsp;          =20 manpath_element
#=20 OPTIONAL_MANPATH         &nb= sp;           =20 manpath_element
#=20 MANPATH_MAP          =20 path_element    manpath_element
#
# every = automatically=20 generated MANPATH includes these=20 fields
#
MANDATORY_MANPATH      =20 /usr/share/man
MANDATORY_MANPATH      =20 /usr/share/perl/man
#
# check if the directory exists and if it = does, add=20 it to = MANPATH
#
OPTIONAL_MANPATH       = ;=20 /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.00503/man
#
# set up PATH to MANPATH=20 mapping
#
MANPATH_MAP    =20 /bin           &nb= sp;       =20 /usr/share/man
MANPATH_MAP    =20 /usr/bin           = ;    =20 /usr/share/man
MANPATH_MAP    =20 /usr/local/bin         =20 /usr/local/man
MANPATH_MAP    =20 /usr/X11R6/bin         =20 /usr/X11R6/man
thanks...
 
------=_NextPart_000_0018_01BEF3D1.A692B720-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 31 3:59:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C5E3152EA for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 03:58:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11Llca-000PH8-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:58:36 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: REQ: Test patch on PR 10115 In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:38:34 +0200." <87329.936016714@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 12:58:36 +0200 Message-ID: <97161.936097116@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 30 Aug 1999 14:38:34 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > I'm looking for someone to push the RELENG_3 patch on PR 10115 through a > ``make world'' on a STABLE box. John Baldwin reports that there were no terrible train-smashes on this one. Thanks, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 31 8:51: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt011n65.san.rr.com (dt010nb9.san.rr.com [204.210.12.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E14714DDA for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:51:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt011n65.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA17744; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:50:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Message-ID: <37CBF9B1.D47A846A@gorean.org> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:50:09 -0700 From: Doug Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT-0826 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Nawfal M. Rouyan" Cc: "FreeBSD 3.2 STABLE" Subject: Re: man page not working... References: <19990831084619.51165.qmail@hotmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > "Nawfal M. Rouyan" wrote: > > I used mergemaster to update /etc. Good man. :) > Below is the content of > /etc/manpath.config > OPTIONAL_MANPATH /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.00503/man Try commenting this one out, then report your results to the list. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 31 9: 3:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B22B614FED for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:03:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id BAA26982; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 01:03:22 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <37CBB8F2.76704205@newsguy.com> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:13:54 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Interesting ways to print 3000 spaces... References: <2252.935956855@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > Um, has everyone here gone INSANE? > > We have a crash bug. It needs to be fixed. We DO NOT need to > know how to print 3000 spaces in 11 different languages! :-) I concur. But if anyone wants to do it with loader, : 3kbl 3000 0 do bl emit loop ; 3kbl will do the trick. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org - Come on. - Where are we going? - To get what you came for. - What's that? - Me. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 31 9: 9:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (wya-oe20.hotmail.com [207.82.253.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7406A14CC2 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:09:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wind_prowler@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 13700 invoked by uid 65534); 31 Aug 1999 16:08:06 -0000 Message-ID: <19990831160806.13699.qmail@hotmail.com> X-Originating-IP: [203.106.62.10] From: "Nawfal M. Rouyan" To: "Doug" Cc: "FreeBSD 3.2 STABLE" References: <19990831084619.51165.qmail@hotmail.com> <37CBF9B1.D47A846A@gorean.org> Subject: Re: man page not working... Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 00:17:51 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! THANKS A LOT! The problem is solved now. Sorry again if this seems to be a dumb to all of u. again, thank u very much.... > > "Nawfal M. Rouyan" wrote: > > > > I used mergemaster to update /etc. > > Good man. :) > > > Below is the content of > > /etc/manpath.config > > > OPTIONAL_MANPATH /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.00503/man > > Try commenting this one out, then report your results to the list. > > Doug > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 31 9:20:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chumbly.math.missouri.edu (chumbly.math.missouri.edu [128.206.72.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D071503D for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:20:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rich@chumbly.math.missouri.edu) Received: (from rich@localhost) by chumbly.math.missouri.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id LAA13605 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:18:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Rich Winkel Message-Id: <199908311618.LAA13605@chumbly.math.missouri.edu> Subject: Sun to buy staroffice & release source ? To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:18:54 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG See http://cnn.com/cnnfn/1999/08/30/deals/wires/sun_wg/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 31 9:38:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ady.warpnet.ro (ady.warpnet.ro [194.102.224.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 670ED14ECF for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 09:37:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warpnet.ro (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA10864; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:38:16 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:38:16 +0300 (EEST) From: Adrian Penisoara To: Juergen Lock Cc: Alan Cox , scrappy@hub.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3.2-STABLE hangs after several hours ... (update) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Fri, 27 Aug 1999, Adrian Penisoara wrote: > > > I checked out the previous threads and my situation appears to be similar > > > to those described in the "On freezes in 3.2-stable" thread, although I > > > have only 128Mb of RAM and UP kernel; see the attached dmesg output for > > > more details... > > > > > > Let me tell you how it worked for me: > > > > > > * I had an uptime of more than 13 hours with Juergen's patch, but that's > > > not so conclusive, as these freezes tend to be somewhat random > > > > > > * When I saw your commit I reverted the patch, cvsupped and rebuilt the > > > kernel; the machine hung up some 7-8 hours later ... > > > > > with the atomic.h fix (which alc mailed me) i cannot reproduce the > > hang anymore, at least the way i could with the broken kernels. > > so i would _guess_ that this hang you got had a different cause > > and it would be interesting to know what it was... > > Well, well: I have both the atomic.h fix and the vm_object.h patch > applied, but the machine keeps freezing on high loads (it seems). I guess > I have to start checking again the hardware and jump on the debugging > stick... Update: after taking off the cover of the machine (I had some heat problems in the past) and rebuilding a DDB kernel everything gone very smooth & stable -- over 3 days of uptime. That smells very much like sensible hardware, I assume that including DDB in the kernel doesn't change too much the game ?? Anyway, now I supped & rebuilt once again the kernel (up to Alan's latest vm_map.c fixup) and changed a NIC (from a flakey -- speaking of software driver -- RealTeck rl0 to a brand new Intel Pro 10/100+ fxp0). I'll try to put the cover back on somtime next weeks and get back to you if anything noticeable comes up... Thanks for your support, Ady (@warpnet.ro) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 31 10:35:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F40B414F4D for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:35:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id TAA22994; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:22:18 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA00563; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:14:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wilko) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199908311714.TAA00563@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: Sun to buy staroffice & release source ? In-Reply-To: <199908311618.LAA13605@chumbly.math.missouri.edu> from Rich Winkel at "Aug 31, 1999 11:18:54 am" To: rich@chumbly.math.missouri.edu (Rich Winkel) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:14:48 +0200 (CEST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Rich Winkel wrote ... > See http://cnn.com/cnnfn/1999/08/30/deals/wires/sun_wg/ Trade rag here insists (in it's online version) that Sun will be giving away Staroffice for free. Source release is not mentioned though. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 31 10:42:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from voyager.fisicc-ufm.edu (ip-46-094.guate.net [200.12.46.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEC0515926 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 10:42:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obonilla@voyager.fisicc-ufm.edu) Received: (from obonilla@localhost) by voyager.fisicc-ufm.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA10019; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:38:39 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from obonilla) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:38:37 -0600 From: Oscar Bonilla To: Rich Winkel Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sun to buy staroffice & release source ? Message-ID: <19990831113837.F8880@fisicc-ufm.edu> References: <199908311618.LAA13605@chumbly.math.missouri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i In-Reply-To: <199908311618.LAA13605@chumbly.math.missouri.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Aug 31, 1999 at 11:18:54AM -0500, Rich Winkel wrote: > See http://cnn.com/cnnfn/1999/08/30/deals/wires/sun_wg/ they did it already... see http://www.sun.com/products/staroffice/ regards, -Oscar -- For PGP Public Key: finger obonilla@fisicc-ufm.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 31 11:12:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gratis.grondar.za (gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E30159BB for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:12:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA36660; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:09:25 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <199908311809.UAA36660@gratis.grondar.za> To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: "Jordan K. Hubbard" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Interesting ways to print 3000 spaces... Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:09:25 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Can we kill this fucking rediculous thread already?? M > "Jordan K. Hubbard" wrote: > > > > Um, has everyone here gone INSANE? > > > > We have a crash bug. It needs to be fixed. We DO NOT need to > > know how to print 3000 spaces in 11 different languages! :-) > > I concur. But if anyone wants to do it with loader, : 3kbl 3000 0 do > bl emit loop ; 3kbl will do the trick. > > -- > Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) > dcs@newsguy.com > dcs@freebsd.org > > - Come on. > - Where are we going? > - To get what you came for. > - What's that? > - Me. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 31 11:14: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from carlton.innotts.co.uk (carlton.innotts.co.uk [212.56.32.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 680AB15BA8 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:13:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robmel@innotts.co.uk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by carlton.innotts.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id TAA18287 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:11:24 +0100 Received: from [172.16.99.111] (robslap.nadt.org.uk [172.16.99.111]) by charlie.nadt.org.uk (8.9.3/8.6.12) with ESMTP id SAA33897 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:16:43 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: robmel@wrcmail (Unverified) Message-Id: Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 18:16:44 +0100 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Robin Melville Subject: Runaway processes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear All, I have run into a problem which started with a STABLE cvsup back around mid-July. Previously well-behaved applications have started to run away. This apparently occurs if a user kills their telnet session without logging out. The processes consume large amounts of the 'System' CPU cycle & bring the load up to about 2.5. Under ps or top they always appear in RUN mode. Mostly they are killable with SIGTERM but sometimes need SIGKILL. Killing them (even with SIGABRT) doesn't cause them to drop core that I can debug. These are both locally written database applications and also /bin/sh. We've been running the database applications more-or-less unchanged for at least 5 years. Subsequent to this problem I recompiled them all as ELF but this has made no difference. I wonder if anybody else has seen this behaviour or can give me an indication of any workarounds I might try. TIA Robin. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Robin Melville, Addiction Information Service Nottingham Alcohol & Drug Team Tel: +44 (0)115 952 9478 Fax: +44 (0)115 952 9421 work: robmel@nadt.org.uk Pages: http://www.innotts.co.uk/nadt ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 31 11:20:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B59C715AB2; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 11:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: from kilt.nothing-going-on.org (kilt.nothing-going-on.org [192.168.1.18]) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA67431; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:09:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by kilt.nothing-going-on.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA84303; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:49:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik@catkin.nothing-going-on.org) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 08:49:43 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Nik Clayton Cc: stable@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, jack Subject: Re: Docs blows up make release Message-ID: <19990831084943.A84039@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> References: <19990822110511.A89933@kilt.nothing-going-on.org> <19990826205300.A93397@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990826205300.A93397@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from Nik Clayton on Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 08:53:00PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ quoted section retained for context ] On Thu, Aug 26, 1999 at 08:53:00PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > -stable, -current, > > On Sun, Aug 22, 1999 at 11:05:11AM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > [ cc'd to -current ] > > > > On Sat, Aug 21, 1999 at 07:54:51PM -0400, jack wrote: > > > > > > Will support for building release docs in English only be > > > revived? > > > > > > > For the immediate future, it looks like it will -- it seems as though > > we don't have the man power to make the necessary changes to sysinstall > > to support "installing the docs as packages", so I'm going to fix up > > src/release/Makefile as necessary to cope with the new directory structure. > > With thanks to Jack O'Neill, this is now done. They're only in -current > at the moment, but they should backport to -stable fairly easily. I'd > be obliged if those if you who like to do these things grabbed a copy > of -current that has r1.504 of src/release/Makefile, and tried building > a release with that, and a copy of the doc/ tree that's of a similar > vintage. Everything should pretty much work. > > Brickbats should be sent my way if it doesn't. There's been a disturbing lack of brickbats landing at my feet, so can I assume that the new doc/ "make release" stuff is working for everybody? If so, I'll MFC the infrastructure tonight. N -- [intentional self-reference] can be easily accommodated using a blessed, non-self-referential dummy head-node whose own object destructor severs the links. -- Tom Christiansen in <375143b5@cs.colorado.edu> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 31 13: 9:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from erlenstar.demon.co.uk (erlenstar.demon.co.uk [194.222.144.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D40A6153C3 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 13:09:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andrew@erlenstar.demon.co.uk) Received: (from andrew@localhost) by erlenstar.demon.co.uk (8.8.8/8.8.8) id VAA15416; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:08:40 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from andrew) To: The Hermit Hacker Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: INNd sticks in "vmopar" state References: From: Andrew Gierth In-Reply-To: The Hermit Hacker's message of "Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:16:36 -0300 (ADT)" X-Mayan-Date: Long count = 12.19.6.8.17; tzolkin = 3 Caban; haab = 5 Mol X-Pgp-0x0E9FFBE9: 87 25 7F 14 41 24 B3 51 E0 19 8B DE 49 74 0C 29 X-Attribution: AG Date: 31 Aug 1999 21:08:39 +0100 Message-ID: <87r9kjhfw8.fsf@erlenstar.demon.co.uk> Lines: 33 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/Emacs 20.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "The" == The Hermit Hacker writes: >> My small news server repeatedly hangs with innd in "vmpfw", with >> sometimes another process (e.g. innfeed) hung in "vmopar". Requires a >> fairly aggressive reboot to fix (any attempt to unmount the news spool >> filesystem hangs too). >> >> This is with FreeBSD-stable as of about June, with local disks and INN >> 2.2-stable (with every mmap option I could find turned off). Moving to >> FreeBSD-current isn't really an option. The> This may not be related, but... The> When Matt and I investigated my problem with 3.2-STABLE & The> INN-CURRENT (2.3 wannabe), we narrowed down the problem to a VM The> fragmentation problem in pre-4.x kernels. Basically, I ran The> 'vmstat -m' out of cron every 10 minutes, watching for the 'VM The> pgdata' values closely: The> VM pgdata 55 16K 211K128695K 73 0 0 128,256,512,2K,256K The> Basically, once the '211K' value reached the '128695K' value, The> you were hosed. This turns out to be unrelated to my problem. VM pgdata 385 72K 131K 10291K 1522 0 0 128,256,512,1K,2K,4K,16K,32K # ps axl | grep vmpfw 8 287 1 0 -22 0 16148 5500 vmpfw Ds ?? 242:58.57 /news-spool/ -- Andrew. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 31 16:10:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.vcnet.com (mail.vcnet.com [209.239.239.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC6A15AAA for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:10:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpr@vcnet.com) Received: from [209.239.239.22] by mail.vcnet.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-39954U2500L250S0) with ESMTP id AAA23871 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:10:37 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 16:10:36 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Jon Rust Subject: RE: no more periodic cron's Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just to follow up... I was being lame. Cron's were running, just not notifying me. I failed to disable sendmail in /etc/make.conf. The installworld process dutifully wrote over my symlink, /usr/sbin/sendmail, which was pointing to /var/qmail/bin/sendmail. Since the periodic entries attempt to use sendmail to deliver the results of the cron, they failed. I put the symlink back and everything is cool again. Thanks for the help, jon At 1:22 PM -0500 8/28/99, Don Read wrote: >On 28-Aug-99 Jon Rust wrote: >> Since upgrading to 3.2Stable about 5 days ago, the daily/weekly cron >> jobs in /etc/periodic don't run. There's nothing in the logs about it. >> > >cat /etc/crontab ? > >ps -ax | grep cron ? > >Regards, >--- >Don Read dread@calcasieu.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 31 17: 4:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.vcnet.com (mail.vcnet.com [209.239.239.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 03AA81599E for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:04:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpr@vcnet.com) Received: from [209.239.239.22] by mail.vcnet.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-39954U2500L250S0) with ESMTP id AAA27249 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:04:17 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 17:04:16 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Jon Rust Subject: today's -stable won't build Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG First anomaly: During make installworld it bombed out early with a "file not found" error (buildworld went fine with no probs). Sorry didn't write down the exact error. Ran make install again, and it ran through without a hitch. ??? Next, I go to rebuild my kernel and it bombs out too: machine/cpufunc.h:419: warning: inlining failed to call 'write_eflags' i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2723: warning: called from here *** Error code 1 ../../i386/isa/clock.c: In function 'calibrate_clocks': ../../i386/isa/clock.c:595: warning: 'old_tsc' might be used uninitialized in this function 1 error Doh! jon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 31 19:47:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (border.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2759A14D6E for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 19:47:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <40330>; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:42:51 +1000 Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:44:23 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Changes in RELENG_3_2_0_RELEASE To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <99Sep1.124251est.40330@border.alcanet.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've recently noticed that there are a number of changes between CVS tag "RELENG_3_2_0_RELEASE" in the CVS tree on the 3.2 CD-ROM CVS tree and my CVS tree (updated via ctm). I thought that the _RELEASE tags were never changed after being laid down. In total, 277 files are different, and one file (src/lib/compat/compat22/ld.so.gz.uu) isn't on the CD-ROM. Most of the changes appear to be just internal version differences (though the direction of the changes varies - sometimes the CD-ROM has a later version, sometimes my CVS tree does). The number of version differences (in the CVS/Entries file) is much smaller. The following files contain real changes: In the case of the ahc driver, the changes are quite substantial. src/contrib/groff/tmac/doc-common src/contrib/groff/tmac/doc-syms src/lib/compat/compat22/Makefile src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_exit.c src/lib/libc_r/uthread/uthread_spec.c src/release/sysinstall/cdrom.c src/release/sysinstall/config.c src/release/sysinstall/index.c src/release/sysinstall/menus.c src/release/sysinstall/package.c src/release/sysinstall/sysinstall.h src/release/texts/ERRATA.TXT src/release/texts/README.TXT src/release/texts/RELNOTES.TXT src/sys/dev/aha/aha.c src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.c src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.h src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.reg src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aic7xxx.seq src/sys/dev/aic7xxx/aicasm_symbol.c src/sys/i386/eisa/ahc_eisa.c src/sys/pci/ahc_pci.c The following files appear to have been `corrupted' (in the sense that CVS has destroyed the GNU version number) on the CD-ROM: src/contrib/libgmp/configure src/contrib/libgmp/texinfo.tex This appears undesirable. We wind up with a situation where someone building a `3.2-RELEASE' system from a later release will wind up with a system that is different to what he'll get if he uses the CVS tree on the 3.2 CD-ROMs. Worse, if he does a build-world based on the CVS sources on the CD-ROM, he'll wind up with something different to the binary distribution. (The groff, sysinstall and release texts changes _are_ in the binaries. The ahc changes aren't. I can't readily check the threads changes). Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 31 20:19:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.HiWAAY.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E4A15430 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 20:19:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Received: from nospam.hiwaay.net (tnt8-216-180-14-156.dialup.HiWAAY.net [216.180.14.156]) by mail.HiWAAY.net (8.9.1a/8.9.0) with ESMTP id WAA13860 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:18:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nospam.hiwaay.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00426 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:17:33 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net) Message-Id: <199909010317.WAA00426@nospam.hiwaay.net> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: wiring down SCSI devices, and the root device From: David Kelly Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:17:33 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Messing around with SCSI drives and two SCSI controllers. One is a first generation Adaptec 2940A, fast, narrow. The other is a much newer Sybios 875-based card. Apparently I have them in the wrong PCI slots to boot the way I wish if a HD is on the Adaptec. "Normally" only tape drives are on the Adaptec. And only one HD is on ncr0. So rather than solve my problem in hardware, thought I'd do it in software. Altered my config file to wire down my SCSI devices like this (thought I'd throw in the "kernel root on" for completness): config kernel root on da0 # old way: #controller scbus0 #device da0 # # wired down: controller scbus0 at ncr0 controller scbus1 at ahc0 device da0 at scbus0 target 0 The comments in LINT suggest "device" and "disk" are the same thing so I commented out the old "device da0" and used the LINT disk line as my example. Is the "controller scbus1" line needed? Based on the LINT example I didn't think it could hurt. Built and installed new kernel. Shut down. Added a 2G HD to the ahc0. During boot BIOS says this new HD is the C: drive. Fromerly the 9G drive on ncr0 was so identified. My boot block code says something about version 0.7. F5 to boot second disk. Then the normal F2 to boot BSD. Eventually followed by a fatal error. This part is typed from written notes: da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 ... (normal da1 stuff for the new HD) changing root device to da1s1a error 22: panic: cannot mount root(2) (2 blank lines) syncing disks... done da0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 ... (normal da0 stuff for the old HD) Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort For some reason my kernel reassigned root contrary to my instructions in config. And after deciding to sync and reboot apparently a process or thread or something completed the probe of da0, which was supposed to be root. And finally the shutdown completed. System is 3.2-STABLE, cvsup'ed the evening of 8/30/99. Matching kernel. But using my config. I don't see anything in GENERIC addressing possible solutions. Moving the "new" disk from ahc0 to ncr0 results in a good system. Am using it at this very moment. Snippet from my current dmesg. Apparently my hard wiring of SCSI devices is doing something as da1 is now listed before da0: da1 at ncr0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 2047MB (4194058 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 261C) changing root device to da0s2a da0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8689MB (17796077 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1107C) Where do I go from here? -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@nospam.hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 31 21:25:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.xbeam.co.jp (ns.xbeam.co.jp [202.32.72.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 169351509A for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 21:25:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from makoto@xbeam.co.jp) Received: by ns.xbeam.co.jp; id NAA02593; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:24:45 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:24:45 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199909010424.NAA02593@ns.xbeam.co.jp> Received: from unknown(192.168.100.133) by ns.xbeam.co.jp via smap (4.1) id xma002588; Wed, 1 Sep 99 13:24:38 +0900 From: YOSHIDA Makoto To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Becky! ver 1.25.07 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable subscribe cvs-all To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 31 22:11:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F07414EF9 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:11:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA28093; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:11:09 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199909010511.WAA28093@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Sun to buy staroffice & release source ? In-Reply-To: <199908311618.LAA13605@chumbly.math.missouri.edu> from Rich Winkel at "Aug 31, 99 11:18:54 am" To: rich@chumbly.math.missouri.edu (Rich Winkel) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:11:09 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Rich Winkel wrote: > See http://cnn.com/cnnfn/1999/08/30/deals/wires/sun_wg/ Sun did buy Star Division. Last week. Start your research at http://www.sun.com/staroffice/ This week they announced that they were selling StarOffice for $0 on the supported platforms (Windows/95/98/NT, Solaris x86 & SPARC, Linux and OS/2). Downloads free, a CD-ROM with all platform's binaries for about $10 (plus S&H). I ordered two CD-ROMs from the web site for a total of $28. And I downloaded the Solaris/SPARC version and installed it on one of our E450s this evening. They also stated they would be releasing the source code under the "Sun Community Source License", which is pretty close to Open Source. It fails a bit in that changes you create become property of Sun, but not too bad, really. The stated purpose of the purchase of Star Division was to obtain needed functionality (an office suite) for Solaris. The stated reason for the open source move was the hoped for rapid improvement in stability, bug fixes and import/export filters. To which everyone said, "Yeah, right." This is an in-your-face to Micro$oft. This must screw the Applixware folks pretty royally. I have no idea what this means to the FreeBSD mall folks who are paying for an Applixware port. But who here isn't rubbing their hands for the native BSD StarOffice port that must be soon to follow? Has anyone signed up to do the port yet? If not, put me on the list. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 31 22:23:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AF9A14C41 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:23:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA07714; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:22:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: chad@DCFinc.com Cc: rich@chumbly.math.missouri.edu (Rich Winkel), freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sun to buy staroffice & release source ? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:11:09 PDT." <199909010511.WAA28093@freeway.dcfinc.com> Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:22:03 -0700 Message-ID: <7710.936163323@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > This must screw the Applixware folks pretty royally. I have no idea > what this means to the FreeBSD mall folks who are paying for an > Applixware port. But who here isn't rubbing their hands for the > native BSD StarOffice port that must be soon to follow? I'm not sure it really screws anyone since Applixware and StarOffice have different feature sets and don't actually compete head-to-head despite the fact that they both appear to be in the same application space. Applix appears to be the more mature of the two products (it's certainly been around longer) and has a good reputation for not falling over. > Has anyone signed up to do the port yet? If not, put me on the > list. It's been done and we're just now waiting for a 3rd party to fix one last filter (which doesn't quite work in the Linux version at the mement, so the FreeBSD port will actually have additional functionality) so that we can get the final "gold build" from Applix and start selling it from the mall. Some of the people on this list have already tested BETAs for us with good results and their initial feedback has gone into making the final version even better. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 31 22:35:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6A2F15092 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:35:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA28310; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:33:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199909010533.WAA28310@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Sun to buy staroffice & release source ? In-Reply-To: <7710.936163323@localhost> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Aug 31, 99 10:22:03 pm" To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:33:33 -0700 (MST) Cc: rich@chumbly.math.missouri.edu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > I'm not sure it really screws anyone since Applixware and StarOffice > have different feature sets and don't actually compete head-to-head > despite the fact that they both appear to be in the same application > space. Applix appears to be the more mature of the two products (it's > certainly been around longer) and has a good reputation for not > falling over. Well, the Applixware folks may claim they don't compete head-to-head. And Corel may claim that WordPerfect Suite doesn't compete head-to-head with Micro$oft Office. But to a consumer, the "word processing/presentations/spreadsheet/data base/e-mail/web browsing" toolkit hits the same user space no matter who's name is on it, or how the GUI looks. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 31 22:36:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FD42152F5 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:36:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id WAA28334; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:36:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199909010536.WAA28334@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: Sun to buy staroffice & release source ? In-Reply-To: <7710.936163323@localhost> from "Jordan K. Hubbard" at "Aug 31, 99 10:22:03 pm" To: jkh@zippy.cdrom.com (Jordan K. Hubbard) Date: Tue, 31 Aug 1999 22:36:15 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As I recall, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: >> Has anyone signed up to do the port yet? If not, put me on the >> list. > It's been done and we're just now waiting for a 3rd party to fix one > last filter (which doesn't quite work in the Linux version at the > mement, so the FreeBSD port will actually have additional > functionality) so that we can get the final "gold build" from Applix > and start selling it from the mall. I was referring to the native FreeBSD port of StarOffice that =must= be in the offing, as soon as Sun posts the code. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 31 23:29:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 470C8151EE for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:29:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA10612 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 00:29:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA15944 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 00:28:53 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199909010628.AAA15944@harmony.village.org> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Reports of bad install Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 00:28:53 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The reports that I gave of a bad install might be due to pilot error. I've been unable to get FreeBSD to install on this machine at all. A nearly identical one (a tiny old POS machine I picked up surplus, btw) worked great. So unless I can give an exact way to reproduce the snap install, please consider those reports due to flakey hardware and ignore them. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Aug 31 23:48:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isy.liu.se (isy.liu.se [130.236.48.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D16AA14D33 for ; Tue, 31 Aug 1999 23:48:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mj@lagrange.isy.liu.se) Received: from lagrange.isy.liu.se (lagrange.isy.liu.se [130.236.49.127]) by isy.liu.se (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA01319; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 08:48:00 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199909010511.WAA28093@freeway.dcfinc.com> Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 08:47:59 +0200 (CEST) From: Micke Josefsson To: "Chad R. Larson" Subject: Re: Sun to buy staroffice & release source ? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, (Rich Winkel) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 01-Sep-99 Chad R. Larson wrote: > As I recall, Rich Winkel wrote: >> See http://cnn.com/cnnfn/1999/08/30/deals/wires/sun_wg/ > > Sun did buy Star Division. Last week. > > Start your research at http://www.sun.com/staroffice/ > > This week they announced that they were selling StarOffice for $0 on > the supported platforms (Windows/95/98/NT, Solaris x86 & SPARC, > Linux and OS/2). Downloads free, a CD-ROM with all platform's > binaries for about $10 (plus S&H). I ordered two CD-ROMs from the > web site for a total of $28. And I downloaded the Solaris/SPARC > version and installed it on one of our E450s this evening. > > They also stated they would be releasing the source code under the > "Sun Community Source License", which is pretty close to Open > Source. It fails a bit in that changes you create become property > of Sun, but not too bad, really. > > The stated purpose of the purchase of Star Division was to obtain > needed functionality (an office suite) for Solaris. The stated > reason for the open source move was the hoped for rapid improvement > in stability, bug fixes and import/export filters. To which > everyone said, "Yeah, right." This is an in-your-face to Micro$oft. > > This must screw the Applixware folks pretty royally. I have no idea > what this means to the FreeBSD mall folks who are paying for an > Applixware port. But who here isn't rubbing their hands for the > native BSD StarOffice port that must be soon to follow? > I have used both Applix and StarOffice. I like Applix more, it feels cleaner in some respects and definately consumes less memory. Given a BSD port for Appplix I'd buy it. I use Applix now for all desktopping tasks I know of... I do wish StarOffice a bright future though. Cheers, Micke ---------------------------------- Michael Josefsson, MSEE mj@isy.liu.se This message was sent by XFMail running on FreeBSD 3.1 ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 1 0:16:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.bby.com.au (ns.bby.com.au [192.83.119.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB45A14D96 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 00:16:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by fw.bby.com.au (8.8.8/8.6.9) id RAA29781 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 17:16:42 +1000 (EST) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au(192.168.71.20) via SMTP by fw.bby.com.au, id smtpd029777; Wed Sep 1 07:16:35 1999 Received: from lightning (lightning [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA25226; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 17:16:34 +1000 (EST) Message-Id: <199909010716.RAA25226@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Where can I get the whole lowdown on the new boot stuff? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 17:16:34 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The file frequently referred to previously (and even listed in UPDATING) http://www.freebsd.org/~rnordier/boot.txt is no longer available. Where can I find this info? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 1 1:31:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from netsjcms01.i-drive.com (netsjcms01.i-drive.com [216.32.226.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CB6A14D29 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 01:31:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from christian@i-drive.com) Received: from win95 (goliath.sung.org.i-drive.com [216.102.91.184]) by netsjcms01.i-drive.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA68929 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 01:28:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from christian@i-drive.com) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990901012711.00a85700@192.168.255.1> X-Sender: cwsung@192.168.255.1 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 01:28:33 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Christian Sung Subject: Re: today's -stable won't build In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Same here. Failed during kernel compilation: cc -c -O -pipe -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -DVM_STACK -include opt_global.h -elf ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c: In function `smp_rendezvous_action': ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2687: warning: implicit declaration of function `atomic_add_int' ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c: In function `smp_rendezvous': ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2711: `smp_rv_lock' undeclared (first use this function) ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2711: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2711: for each function it appears in.) ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2723: `PSL_I' undeclared (first use this function) machine/cpufunc.h:419: warning: inlining failed in call to `write_eflags' ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2723: warning: called from here *** Error code 1 Stop. Cheers, -christian At 05:04 PM 8/31/99 -0700, Jon Rust wrote: >First anomaly: During make installworld it bombed out early with a "file >not found" error (buildworld went fine with no probs). Sorry didn't write >down the exact error. Ran make install again, and it ran through without a >hitch. ??? > >Next, I go to rebuild my kernel and it bombs out too: > > machine/cpufunc.h:419: warning: inlining failed to call 'write_eflags' > i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2723: warning: called from here > *** Error code 1 > ../../i386/isa/clock.c: In function 'calibrate_clocks': > ../../i386/isa/clock.c:595: warning: 'old_tsc' might be used > uninitialized in this function > 1 error > >Doh! > >jon > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > ,-------------------------------------------------------------, | Christian W. Sung www.i-drive.com christian@i-drive.com | `-------------------------------------------------------------' Chief Information Officer i-drive.com Office: (415) 356-2280 842 Folsom Street Facsimile:(415) 356-2299 Suite 200 Cellular: (510) 333-5898 San Francisco, CA 94107 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 1 2:42:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3B1D14DE0 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 02:42:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.2) with ESMTP id LAA53691 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:39:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id LAA15252 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:39:30 +0200 (MET DST) From: talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr (Michel TALON) Received: from (talon@localhost) by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id LAA11699 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:39:29 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <199909010939.LAA11699@niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr> Subject: panic To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:39:29 +0200 (CEST) Lab: L.P.T.H.E. Universite Paris VI, Tour 16, 1 etage PARIS 75005 Tel: (33) 1 44 27 73 98 Fax: (33) 1 44 27 70 88 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I encountered a strange panic, apparently related to the vm system during the holidays. The machine was running but mostly idle. It paniced and rebooted without notable symptoms in the logs. This is a 3.2 stable system (from end of May): from uname -a FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #0: Thu May 27 The machine has always worked very well and has standard components. The filesystems are mounted with softupdates. Here is the gdb trace of the coredump: Script started on Wed Sep 1 11:11:16 1999 sh-2.02# gdb -k kernel /var/crash/vmcore.3 GNU gdb 4.18 Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"... IdlePTD 2969600 initial pcb at 258aac panicstr: page fault panic messages: --- Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x1e9030 fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc01d188f stack pointer = 0x10:0xc8ff5f08 frame pointer = 0x10:0xc8ff5f38 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 4 (syncer) interrupt mask = trap number = 12 panic: page fault syncing disks... 2 done dumping to dev 20401, offset 90112 dump 256 255 254 253 252 251 250 249 248 247 246 245 244 243 242 241 240 239 238 237 236 235 234 233 232 231 230 229 228 227 226 225 224 223 222 221 220 219 218 217 216 215 214 213 212 211 210 209 208 207 206 205 204 203 202 201 200 199 198 197 196 195 194 193 192 191 190 189 188 187 186 185 184 183 182 181 180 179 178 177 176 175 174 173 172 171 170 169 168 167 166 165 164 163 162 161 160 159 158 157 156 155 154 153 152 151 150 149 148 147 146 145 144 143 142 141 140 139 138 137 136 135 134 133 132 131 130 129 128 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 --- #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285 285 dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3(); (kgdb) where #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285 #1 0xc0141ac0 in at_shutdown ( function=0xc0235867 <__set_sysinit_set_sym_memdev_sys_init+1115>, arg=0xc8fe9a40, queue=-922788148) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:446 #2 0xc01ff1cd in trap_fatal (frame=0xc8ff5ecc, eva=2002992) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:942 #3 0xc01feeab in trap_pfault (frame=0xc8ff5ecc, usermode=0, eva=2002992) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:835 #4 0xc01feb4e in trap (frame={tf_es = -922812400, tf_ds = -921763824, tf_edi = -922838464, tf_esi = -920569920, tf_ebp = -922788040, tf_isp = -922788108, tf_ebx = -920787328, tf_edx = -922787960, tf_ecx = -1071178848, tf_eax = 2002944, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1071834993, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66050, tf_esp = 0, tf_ss = -1058014208}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:437 #5 0xc01d188f in ffs_sync (mp=0xc0effc00, waitfor=3, cred=0xc0a9b000, p=0xc8fe9a40) at ../../ufs/ffs/ffs_vfsops.c:976 #6 0xc0167d91 in sync_fsync (ap=0xc8ff5f88) at ../../kern/vfs_subr.c:2776 #7 0xc01662fd in sched_sync () at vnode_if.h:499 #8 0xc0134742 in kproc_start (udata=0xc0246a38) at ../../kern/init_main.c:303 #9 0xc01f5a1a in fork_trampoline () (kgdb) quit sh-2.02# exit Script done on Wed Sep 1 11:12:10 1999 And for reference here is dmesg: Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #0: Thu May 27 11:12:03 CEST 1999 talon@niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr:/usr/src/sys/compile/NIOBE Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 300682946 Hz CPU: Pentium II (300.68-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x634 Stepping=4 Features=0x80f9ff real memory = 268435456 (262144K bytes) config> pnp 1 0 os enable port0 0x220 irq0 5 drq0 1 drq1 3 config> quit avail memory = 258322432 (252268K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02cb000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/kernel.config" at 0xc02cb09c. Preloaded splash_image_data "/boot/splash.bmp" at 0xc02cb0e8. Preloaded elf module "splash_bmp.ko" at 0xc02cb138. Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: chip0: rev 0x03 on pci0.0.0 chip1: rev 0x03 on pci0.1.0 chip2: rev 0x01 on pci0.4.0 chip3: rev 0x01 on pci0.4.3 xl0: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> rev 0x30 int a irq 11 on pci0.10.0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:10:5a:3b:ae:03 xl0: autoneg complete, link status good (half-duplex, 100Mbps) ncr0: rev 0x03 int a irq 10 on pci0.11.0 Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: vga0: rev 0x00 int a irq 9 on pci1.0.0 Probing for PnP devices: CSN 1 Vendor ID: CTL00f0 [0xf0008c0e] Serial 0xffffffff Comp ID: PNPb02f [0x2fb0d041] pcm1 (SB16pnp sn 0xffffffff) at 0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 1 flags 0x13 on isa Probing for devices on the ISA bus: sc0 on isa sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 not found sio0 at 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa sio0: type 16550A sio1 at 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa sio1: type 16550A ppc0 at 0x378 irq 7 on isa ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold ppi0: on ppbus 0 plip0: on ppbus 0 pcm0 not probed due to drq conflict with pcm1 at 1 fdc0 at 0x3f0-0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: 1.44MB 3.5in wdc0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 14 flags 0xa0ff on isa wdc0: unit 0 (atapi): , removable, accel, dma, iordis acd0: drive speed 1033KB/sec, 128KB cache acd0: supported read types: CD-DA acd0: Audio: play, 256 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: no/blank disc inside, unlocked vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa npx0 on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle changing root device to da0s1a da0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 3090MB (6328861 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 393C) WARNING: / was not properly dismounted da1 at ncr0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 da1: Removable Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 3.300MB/s transfers da1: 96MB (196608 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 96C) ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates ffs_mountfs: superblock updated for soft updates I hope this may have some use to the people trying to chase vm bugs at the moment. -- Michel TALON To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 1 4: 2:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from boom.calcasieu.com (boom.calcasieu.com [209.99.46.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038E414D32 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 04:02:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dread@calcasieu.com) Received: from coypu.bb.calcasieu.com (coypu.bb.calcasieu.com [192.168.3.21]) by boom.calcasieu.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA16046 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 06:02:29 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 06:02:29 -0500 (CDT) Organization: Calcasieu Lumber From: Don Read To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: new arp thingies ? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just did a installworld -stable: arp now gives : aus-gw.austin (192.168.170.29) at 0:40:5:12:75:f3 [ethernet] rt=8000 divot.austin (192.168.170.77) at 0:10:4b:6d:b3:bc [ethernet] rt=8000 curly.austin (192.168.170.79) at 0:40:5:5e:c3:b8 [ethernet] rt=8000 ash.calcasieu.com (209.99.46.75) at 0:40:5:11:35:fd [ethernet] rt=8000 boom.calcasieu.com (209.99.46.80) at 0:40:5:3d:e:4f [ethernet] rt=8000 bcast95.calcasieu.com (209.99.46.95) at ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff permanent [ethernet] what is the the purpose of the "[ethernet] rt=8000" stuff ? Regards, --- Don Read dread@calcasieu.com EDP Manager dread@texas.net Calcasieu Lumber Co. Austin TX -- But I'm in good company, sendmail has kicked a great many butts in the past To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 1 4: 8:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB1F614CAF for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 04:08:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA78890 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:06:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:06:43 +0200 (CEST) From: "O. Hartmann" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: STABLE buildkernel failed Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Since monday, 30. Aug. I can not compile a kernel. Compiler always exits with: c -c -O3 -pipe -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointe r-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -DV M_STACK -include opt_global.h -elf -fomit-frame-pointer ../../i386/isa/ipl_funcs.c ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c: In function `smp_rendezvous': ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2711: `smp_rv_lock' undeclared (first use this function) ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2711: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2711: for each function it appears in.) ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2723: `PSL_I' undeclared (first use this function) machine/cpufunc.h:419: warning: inlining failed in call to `write_eflags' ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2723: warning: called from here ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2729: warning: nested extern declaration of `atomic_add_int' ../../i386/isa/clock.c: In function `calibrate_clocks': ../../i386/isa/clock.c:595: warning: `old_tsc' might be used uninitialized in this function *** Error code 1 cc -c -O3 -pipe -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointe r-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -DV M_STACK -include opt_global.h -elf ../../i386/isa/intr_machdep.c 1 error î This happend after CVSupdating the src tree. buildworld did its work correctly. Oliver Gruss O. Hartmann ------------------------------------------------------------------- ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de Klimadatenserver des IPA, Universitaet Mainz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 1 4:31:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from david.siemens.de (david.siemens.de [192.35.17.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DFC215418; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 04:31:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ust@cert.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: ust@cert.siemens.de (at relayer david.siemens.de) Received: from mail1.siemens.de (mail1.siemens.de [139.23.33.14]) by david.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA27651; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:31:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from mars.cert.siemens.de (ust.mchp.siemens.de [139.23.201.17]) by mail1.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA24069; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:31:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from alaska.cert.siemens.de (alaska.cert.siemens.de [139.23.202.134]) by mars.cert.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/Siemens CERT [ $Revision: 1.9 ]) with ESMTP id NAA67808; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:31:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from ust@localhost) by alaska.cert.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/alaska [ $Revision: 1.2 ]) id LAA21271; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:31:42 GMT (envelope-from ust) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:31:42 +0200 From: Udo Schweigert To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org Subject: make kernel broken in -STABLE Message-ID: <19990901133142.A21235@alaska.cert.siemens.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, cvs-all@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, today´s -STABLE had the following error when making a new kernel: cc -c -O2 -pipe -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DUSBVERBOSE -DKERNEL -DVM_STACK -include opt_global.h -elf ../../kern/kern_sig.c ../../kern/kern_sig.c: In function `expand_name': ../../kern/kern_sig.c:1275: argument `uid' doesn't match prototype ../../kern/kern_sig.c:74: prototype declaration *** Error code 1 Here´s a patch: --- ../../kern/kern_sig.c Wed Sep 1 08:12:01 1999 +++ /tmp/kern_sig.c Wed Sep 1 13:03:10 1999 @@ -1272,7 +1272,7 @@ static char * expand_name(name, uid, pid) -const char *name; int uid; int pid; { +const char *name; uid_t uid; int pid; { char *temp; char buf[11]; /* Buffer for pid/uid -- max 4B */ int i, n; Regards ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Udo Schweigert || Voice : +49 89 636 42170 Siemens AG, Siemens CERT || Fax : +49 89 636 48000 ZT IK 3 || email : Udo.Schweigert@mchp.siemens.de D-81730 Muenchen / Germany || : ust@cert.siemens.de PGP fingerprint || 2A 53 F6 A6 30 59 64 02 6B C4 E0 73 B2 C9 6C E7 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 1 4:48:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from charma.uprm.edu (charma.UPR.CLU.EDU [136.145.164.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E83ED15A26 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 04:47:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kennie@uprm.edu) Received: by charma.uprm.edu (5.65v4.0/1.1.19.2/16Mar99-0506PM) id AA10141; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 07:47:23 -0400 Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 07:47:23 -0400 From: Kennie J.Cruz Gutierrez Message-Id: <199909011147.AA10141@charma.uprm.edu> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG unsubscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 1 5:12: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from carlton.innotts.co.uk (carlton.innotts.co.uk [212.56.32.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F8C153C5 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 05:12:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robmel@nadt.org.uk) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by carlton.innotts.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with UUCP id NAA03781 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:09:00 +0100 Received: from [172.16.99.111] (robslap.nadt.org.uk [172.16.99.111]) by charlie.nadt.org.uk (8.9.3/8.6.12) with ESMTP id MAA36503 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:49:55 +0100 (BST) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: robmel@wrcmail Message-Id: Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:47:14 +0100 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Robin Melville Subject: Runaway processes Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear All, I have run into a problem which started with a STABLE cvsup back around mid-July. Previously well-behaved applications have started to run away. This apparently occurs if a user kills their telnet session without logging out. The processes consume large amounts of the 'System' CPU cycle & bring the load up to about 2.5. Under ps or top they always appear in RUN mode. Mostly they are killable with SIGTERM but sometimes need SIGKILL. Killing them (even with SIGABRT) doesn't cause them to drop core that I can debug. These are both locally written database applications and also /bin/sh. We've been running the database applications more-or-less unchanged for at least 5 years. Subsequent to this problem I recompiled them all as ELF but this has made no difference. I wonder if anybody else has seen this behaviour or can give me an indication of any workarounds I might try. TIA Robin. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 1 8:35:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from qui.uc.pt (qui.uc.pt [192.84.13.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D073B14E83; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 08:35:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpedras@qui.uc.pt) Received: from qui.uc.pt (qui.uc.pt [192.84.13.26]) by qui.uc.pt (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA76187; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 16:32:23 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jpedras@qui.uc.pt) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 16:32:22 +0100 (BST) From: Joao Pedras To: Udo Schweigert Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: make kernel broken in -STABLE In-Reply-To: <19990901133142.A21235@alaska.cert.siemens.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG yup :( same here To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 1 8:57:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E765C15A97 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 08:56:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id SAA83330; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 18:46:57 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 18:46:57 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: David Kelly Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: wiring down SCSI devices, and the root device Message-ID: <19990901184657.A77510@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: David Kelly , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org References: <199909010317.WAA00426@nospam.hiwaay.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <199909010317.WAA00426@nospam.hiwaay.net>; from David Kelly on Tue, Aug 31, 1999 at 10:17:33PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Aug 31, 1999 at 10:17:33PM -0500, David Kelly wrote: > Messing around with SCSI drives and two SCSI controllers. One is a > first generation Adaptec 2940A, fast, narrow. The other is a much newer > Sybios 875-based card. Apparently I have them in the wrong PCI slots to > boot the way I wish if a HD is on the Adaptec. "Normally" only tape > drives are on the Adaptec. And only one HD is on ncr0. > > So rather than solve my problem in hardware, thought I'd do it in > software. Altered my config file to wire down my SCSI devices like this > (thought I'd throw in the "kernel root on" for completness): > > config kernel root on da0 > > # old way: > #controller scbus0 > #device da0 > # > # wired down: > controller scbus0 at ncr0 > controller scbus1 at ahc0 > device da0 at scbus0 target 0 > > The comments in LINT suggest "device" and "disk" are the same thing so > I commented out the old "device da0" and used the LINT disk line as my > example. > > Is the "controller scbus1" line needed? Based on the LINT example I > didn't think it could hurt. > > Built and installed new kernel. Shut down. Added a 2G HD to the ahc0. > During boot BIOS says this new HD is the C: drive. Fromerly the 9G > drive on ncr0 was so identified. > > My boot block code says something about version 0.7. > > F5 to boot second disk. Then the normal F2 to boot BSD. Eventually > followed by a fatal error. This part is typed from written notes: > > da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 > ... (normal da1 stuff for the new HD) > changing root device to da1s1a > error 22: panic: cannot mount root(2) > (2 blank lines) > syncing disks... done > da0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > ... (normal da0 stuff for the old HD) > Automatic reboot in 15 seconds - press a key on the console to abort > > For some reason my kernel reassigned root contrary to my instructions > in config. And after deciding to sync and reboot apparently a process > or thread or something completed the probe of da0, which was supposed > to be root. And finally the shutdown completed. > > System is 3.2-STABLE, cvsup'ed the evening of 8/30/99. Matching kernel. > But using my config. I don't see anything in GENERIC addressing > possible solutions. > Normally, the system uses the device from which it was booted as the root device if possible. (See reboot(2) and boot(8) for details). There are a lot of possible solutions: 1) Hit any key while the boot blocks are loading (thus skipping an invokation of the third-stage loader(8)), and type `-r' to boot blocks prompt. Refer to the boot(8) manpage. 2) Inside loader(8), interrupt the autoboot sequence by pressing and type `boot -r' on the command prompt. Refer to the loader(8) manpage. 3) Inside loader(8), set `rootdev' variable to the appropriate value and execute `boot'. Or better yet put this into /boot/loader.conf. Refer to the loader(8) and loader.conf(8) manpages. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 1 10: 8:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from saturn.psn.net (saturn.psn.net [207.211.58.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8111A15B37 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:07:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@blackdawn.com) Received: from shadow.blackdawn.com (5042-243.008.popsite.net [209.224.140.243]) by saturn.psn.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA25226 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:11:45 -0700 (MST) Received: (from will@localhost) by shadow.blackdawn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA78034 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:07:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from will) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 13:07:30 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Will Andrews From: Will Andrews To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: `make buildworld` fails, Aug31 sources Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Here's a `make buildworld` attempt on August 31 ~21:00 sources for -STABLE..: cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/config -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DDEFAULT_TARGET_VERSION=\"2.7.2.3\" -DDEFAULT_TARGET_MACHINE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../cc_tools -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/bi-lexer.c cc -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/config -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DDEFAULT_TARGET_VERSION=\"2.7.2.3\" -DDEFAULT_TARGET_MACHINE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../cc_tools -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/bi-reverse.c cc -static -O -pipe -I. -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/config -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DDEFAULT_TARGET_VERSION=\"2.7.2.3\" -DDEFAULT_TARGET_MACHINE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../cc_tools -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -static -o bi-arity bi-arity.o bi-parser.o bi-lexer.o bi-reverse.o ./bi-arity < /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools/../../../../contrib/gcc/bytecode.def > bc-arity.h syntax error in input *** Error code 33 Stop. *** Error code 1 Seems like some code is broken somewhere. (I don't know how to fix this, so..) -- Will Andrews To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 1 10:36:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pinhead.parag.codegen.com (207-44-235-154.CodeGen.COM [207.44.235.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 018E615392 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:36:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parag@pinhead.parag.codegen.com) Received: from pinhead.parag.codegen.com (parag@localhost.parag.codegen.com [127.0.0.1]) by pinhead.parag.codegen.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01976 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 10:34:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parag@pinhead.parag.codegen.com) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: STABLE SMP build failure for today and yesterday X-Face: =O'Kj74icvU|oS*<7gS/8'\Pbpm}okVj*@UC!IgkmZQAO!W[|iBiMs*|)n*`X ]pW%m>Oz_mK^Gdazsr.Z0/JsFS1uF8gBVIoChGwOy{EK=<6g?aHE`[\S]C]T0Wm X-URL: http://www.codegen.com Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 10:34:35 -0700 Message-ID: <1972.936207275@pinhead.parag.codegen.com> From: Parag Patel Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Today being Sep 1, and yesterday being Aug 31. This is different from the kern_sig.c problem reported earlier. cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -DVM_STACK -include opt_global.h -elf ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c: In function `smp_rendezvous_action': ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2687: warning: implicit declaration of function `atomic_add_int' ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c: In function `smp_rendezvous': ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2711: `smp_rv_lock' undeclared (first use this function) ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2711: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2711: for each function it appears in.) ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2723: `PSL_I' undeclared (first use this function) machine/cpufunc.h:419: warning: inlining failed in call to `write_eflags' ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2723: warning: called from here *** Error code 1 I looked into mp_machdep.c, and it looks like a couple of header files atomic.h and psl.h have been removed. However, adding these files back in, there's no definition of smp_rv_lock, which is used in the new smp_rendezvous routine at the end. It's also missing from init_locks, also in the same file. Adding these back in, and it fails to link, not being able to find "KPSEL". This appears to be a symbol generated by the CURRENT genassym but not the STABLE. At this point, I decided that I'm over my head with the SMP code. :) Non-SMP kernel builds work just fine, as did buildworld and installworld as of Aug 31 evening. The test machine is running the results of that buildworld, and only the SMP kernel builds are failing. (Well, aside from the new kern_sig.c problem.) -- Parag Patel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 1 11: 2:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2EAC15A59 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:02:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) id TAA86103; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 19:00:42 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from joe) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 19:00:42 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Parag Patel Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: STABLE SMP build failure for today and yesterday Message-ID: <19990901190042.C88479@pavilion.net> References: <1972.936207275@pinhead.parag.codegen.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <1972.936207275@pinhead.parag.codegen.com>; from Parag Patel on Wed, Sep 01, 1999 at 10:34:35AM -0700 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, 24 The Old Steine, Brighton, BN1 1EL, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yep, I've just had the same problem... had to sup backwards to an earlier date (19990820) to get it to work. I've got another SMP machine that was built on the 20th hence that particular choice of date. Joe On Wed, Sep 01, 1999 at 10:34:35AM -0700, Parag Patel wrote: > > Today being Sep 1, and yesterday being Aug 31. This is different from > the kern_sig.c problem reported earlier. > > cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -DVM_STACK -include opt_global.h -elf ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c: In function `smp_rendezvous_action': > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2687: warning: implicit declaration of function `atomic_add_int' > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c: In function `smp_rendezvous': > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2711: `smp_rv_lock' undeclared (first use this function) > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2711: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2711: for each function it appears in.) > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2723: `PSL_I' undeclared (first use this function) > machine/cpufunc.h:419: warning: inlining failed in call to `write_eflags' > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2723: warning: called from here > *** Error code 1 > > I looked into mp_machdep.c, and it looks like a couple of header files > atomic.h and psl.h have been removed. However, adding these files back > in, there's no definition of smp_rv_lock, which is used in the new > smp_rendezvous routine at the end. It's also missing from init_locks, > also in the same file. Adding these back in, and it fails to link, not > being able to find "KPSEL". This appears to be a symbol generated by > the CURRENT genassym but not the STABLE. > > At this point, I decided that I'm over my head with the SMP code. :) > > Non-SMP kernel builds work just fine, as did buildworld and installworld > as of Aug 31 evening. The test machine is running the results of that > buildworld, and only the SMP kernel builds are failing. (Well, aside > from the new kern_sig.c problem.) > > > -- Parag Patel > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 1 11:14:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from misha.cisco.com (misha.cisco.com [171.69.206.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09EBF14CAF; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:14:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@misha.cisco.com) Received: (from mi@localhost) by misha.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA29176; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:12:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) Message-Id: <199909011812.OAA29176@misha.cisco.com> Subject: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable To: stable@freebsd.org, hackers@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:12:49 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: mi@aldan.algebra.com From: Mikhail Teterin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL60 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG With relatively small amount of hackery, the StarOffice51 for Linux can be forced to run on FreeBSD. Both, the setup and the office itself. To run setup, you need to unzip the setup.zip (with the -L flag) and make all the libraries there known to the ld-linux.so. (I just added a new directory to /compat/linux/etc/ld.so.conf). Then -- run setup according to StarDivision's documentation. Before running soffice for the first time -- apply the trick described by Andre Albsmeier on http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=432982+436209+/usr/local/www/db/text/1998/freebsd-hackers/19980628.freebsd-hackers to the freshly installed lib/libosl516li.so mv libosl516li.so libosl516li.so.bak sed -e 's,/proc/%u/cmdline,/compat/linux/so,' \ < libosl516li.so.bak > libosl516li.so touch /compat/linux/so If Sun doesn't release the sources this month, I'll submit a port... -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 1 11:47:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from saturn.psn.net (saturn.psn.net [207.211.58.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5F2F1557F for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:47:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@blackdawn.com) Received: from shadow.blackdawn.com (5042-243.008.popsite.net [209.224.140.243]) by saturn.psn.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20884; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 11:51:02 -0700 (MST) Received: (from will@localhost) by shadow.blackdawn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA54688; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:47:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from will) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <199909011812.OAA29176@misha.cisco.com> Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 14:47:01 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Will Andrews From: Will Andrews To: Mikhail Teterin Subject: RE: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 01-Sep-99 Mikhail Teterin wrote: > If Sun doesn't release the sources this month, I'll submit a port... I was going to update the source port myself.. ;P I don't think it's really possible to make a port for the Linux-bin version of StarOffice, as it requires X11 to be running (setup prog..), and requires hacking around with linux libraries. Besides, there are already howto's around the Net. Maybe you missed them.. look around at http://www.freebsdrocks.com/ and other such sites. I posted about this recently on questions@, search that mlist archive and see. -- Will Andrews To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 1 12:19:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from c008.sfo.cp.net (c008-h000.c008.sfo.cp.net [209.228.14.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 566B81550B for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:19:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from williamdwoods@etrademail.com) Received: (cpmta 29929 invoked from network); 1 Sep 1999 12:18:35 -0700 Date: 1 Sep 1999 12:18:34 -0700 Message-ID: <19990901191834.29928.cpmta@c008.sfo.cp.net> X-Sent: 1 Sep 1999 19:18:34 GMT Received: from [208.26.204.140] by mail.etrademail.com with HTTP; 01 Sep 1999 12:18:34 PDT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: andrews@TECHNOLOGIST.COM From: wwoods@cybcon.com Cc: mi@aldan.algebra.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.1 Subject: RE: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable X-Sent-From: williamdwoods@etrademail.com Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Woulden't a port be the better option though? There are ports of Linux based Netscape....... On Wed, 01 September 1999, Will Andrews wrote: > > On 01-Sep-99 Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > If Sun doesn't release the sources this month, I'll submit a port... > > I was going to update the source port myself.. ;P > > I don't think it's really possible to make a port for the Linux-bin version of > StarOffice, as it requires X11 to be running (setup prog..), and requires > hacking around with linux libraries. > > Besides, there are already howto's around the Net. Maybe you missed them.. look > around at http://www.freebsdrocks.com/ and other such sites. I posted about > this recently on questions@, search that mlist archive and see. > > -- > Will Andrews > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message William *************************************************************************** Our funds have Star Power. 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Visit http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;529412;3450872;h?http://www.transamericafunds. com/legal.html *************************************************************************** It's time for E*TRADE (SM) Get your free @etrademail.com address at http://www.etrade.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 1 12:50:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18FCC15A67 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:50:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00535; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 12:42:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199909011942.MAA00535@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Parag Patel Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: STABLE SMP build failure for today and yesterday In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Sep 1999 10:34:35 PDT." <1972.936207275@pinhead.parag.codegen.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 12:42:50 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Today being Sep 1, and yesterday being Aug 31. This is different from > the kern_sig.c problem reported earlier. I broke this with the rendezvous changes yesterday; my test SMP system is going to Kirk and I fumbled this one. If it hasn't already been resolved, I'll fix it today. > cc -c -O -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -g -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -DVM_STACK -include opt_global.h -elf ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c: In function `smp_rendezvous_action': > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2687: warning: implicit declaration of function `atomic_add_int' > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c: In function `smp_rendezvous': > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2711: `smp_rv_lock' undeclared (first use this function) > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2711: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2711: for each function it appears in.) > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2723: `PSL_I' undeclared (first use this function) > machine/cpufunc.h:419: warning: inlining failed in call to `write_eflags' > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2723: warning: called from here > *** Error code 1 > > I looked into mp_machdep.c, and it looks like a couple of header files > atomic.h and psl.h have been removed. However, adding these files back > in, there's no definition of smp_rv_lock, which is used in the new > smp_rendezvous routine at the end. It's also missing from init_locks, > also in the same file. Adding these back in, and it fails to link, not > being able to find "KPSEL". This appears to be a symbol generated by > the CURRENT genassym but not the STABLE. > > At this point, I decided that I'm over my head with the SMP code. :) > > Non-SMP kernel builds work just fine, as did buildworld and installworld > as of Aug 31 evening. The test machine is running the results of that > buildworld, and only the SMP kernel builds are failing. (Well, aside > from the new kern_sig.c problem.) > > > -- Parag Patel > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 1 13: 9:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jason03.u.washington.edu (jason03.u.washington.edu [140.142.77.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EF5414EA5 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:09:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kraemer@u.washington.edu) Received: from mead2.u.washington.edu (kraemer@mead2.u.washington.edu [140.142.12.164]) by jason03.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA19018 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:07:57 -0700 Received: from localhost (kraemer@localhost) by mead2.u.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW99.02/8.9.3+UW99.01) with ESMTP id NAA54286 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:07:57 -0700 Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:07:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Brian Kraemer To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: System crash information Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If I experience a system crash, and the machine drops into DDB, what kind of information should I be looking for to pinpoint the cause of the crash? I'm not that experienced using the debugger, so I'm not sure what commands I should issue or what steps I should follow, but I do want to understand what is going on. -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 1 13: 9:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from free-bsd.org (edslppp4.dnvr.uswest.net [216.160.128.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6338E15ABD for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:09:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from geniusj@free-bsd.org) Received: from localhost (geniusj@localhost) by free-bsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA19282; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:11:38 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from geniusj@free-bsd.org) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:11:38 -0600 (MDT) From: FreeBSD -- The Power to Serve To: wwoods@cybcon.com Cc: andrews@TECHNOLOGIST.COM, mi@aldan.algebra.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable In-Reply-To: <19990901191834.29928.cpmta@c008.sfo.cp.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The netscape installation program is console-based.. we'd have to make a whole new installation prog just for the port ;) On 1 Sep 1999 wwoods@cybcon.com wrote: > Woulden't a port be the better option though? There are ports of Linux based Netscape....... > > On Wed, 01 September 1999, Will Andrews wrote: > > > > > On 01-Sep-99 Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > > If Sun doesn't release the sources this month, I'll submit a port... > > > > I was going to update the source port myself.. ;P > > > > I don't think it's really possible to make a port for the Linux-bin version of > > StarOffice, as it requires X11 to be running (setup prog..), and requires > > hacking around with linux libraries. > > > > Besides, there are already howto's around the Net. Maybe you missed them.. look > > around at http://www.freebsdrocks.com/ and other such sites. I posted about > > this recently on questions@, search that mlist archive and see. > > > > -- > > Will Andrews > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > William > *************************************************************************** > Our funds have Star Power. Explore our site and share your investment > ideas and real-life experiences. Find the Transamerica Premier Fund that's > right for you. Visit > http://ad.doubleclick.net/clk;529412;3450872;h?http://www.transamericafunds. > com/legal.html > *************************************************************************** > > It's time for E*TRADE (SM) > Get your free @etrademail.com address at http://www.etrade.com > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 1 13:52:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com [206.214.98.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 723EC15529 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:52:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asami@stampede.cs.berkeley.edu) Received: (from smap@localhost) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) id PAA01069; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:50:54 -0500 (CDT) Received: from sji-ca42-115.ix.netcom.com(209.111.212.115) by dfw-ix6.ix.netcom.com via smap (V1.3) id rma001016; Wed Sep 1 15:50:19 1999 Received: (from asami@localhost) by silvia.hip.berkeley.edu (8.9.3/8.6.9) id NAA81898; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 13:50:07 -0700 (PDT) To: FreeBSD -- The Power to Serve Cc: wwoods@cybcon.com, andrews@TECHNOLOGIST.COM, mi@aldan.algebra.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable References: From: asami@FreeBSD.ORG (Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami) Date: 01 Sep 1999 13:50:03 -0700 In-Reply-To: FreeBSD -- The Power to Serve's message of "Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:11:38 -0600 (MDT)" Message-ID: Lines: 9 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * From: FreeBSD -- The Power to Serve * The netscape installation program is console-based.. we'd have to make a * whole new installation prog just for the port ;) It's ok for the port to require X to run the install program. (We obviously can't make packages though.) Satoshi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 1 14:19:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from Samizdat.uucom.com (samizdat.uucom.com [198.202.217.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 595AA14F9B; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:19:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cshenton@uucom.com) Received: (from cshenton@localhost) by Samizdat.uucom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA16221; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 17:17:51 -0400 (EDT) To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Upgrade from 3.0-BETA to 3.2-STABLE: Pitfalls? User-Agent: SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.5 (Hirahata) Emacs/20.3 (i386-pc-solaris2.7) MULE/4.0 (HANANOEN) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.3 - "Komaiko") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII From: Chris Shenton Date: 01 Sep 1999 17:17:51 -0400 Message-ID: Lines: 16 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I support an ISP with is running on a couple 3.0-BETA servers. Actually, it reports 3.0-CURRENT from October 1998. When we started, 3.0-RELEASE wasn't quite out and 2.2 didn't support the disk controllers. Now we finally want to get onto 3.2-STABLE. I've done "make worlds" on plenty of systems and rebuilt kernels. Usually no problem. Here I'm very concerned about elf vs. aout or library incompatibilities. There were also around that time some issues with the boot sector (?) needing to be marked some special way but I've forgotten. The ISP is 8 time zones away so I can't fix it if the make world and new kernel fail. What problems can I expect? Suggestions for avoiding them? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 1 14:21:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from saturn.psn.net (saturn.psn.net [207.211.58.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A9A714DE0 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:21:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from will@blackdawn.com) Received: from shadow.blackdawn.com (5042-243.008.popsite.net [209.224.140.243]) by saturn.psn.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA27663; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 14:23:58 -0700 (MST) Received: (from will@localhost) by shadow.blackdawn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA62435; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 17:19:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from will) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <19990901191834.29928.cpmta@c008.sfo.cp.net> Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 17:19:57 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: Will Andrews From: Will Andrews To: wwoods@cybcon.com Subject: RE: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, mi@aldan.algebra.com Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 01-Sep-99 wwoods@cybcon.com wrote: > Woulden't a port be the better option though? There are ports of Linux based > Netscape....... Netscape doesn't require a graphical setup program in order to install it, unlike StarOffice. Maybe there's a CLI version of the setup program available, but I don't know of it. -- Will Andrews To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 1 15: 8:45 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [209.157.82.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5CD5514F71 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:08:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 64788 invoked by uid 100); 1 Sep 1999 22:08:40 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Sep 1999 22:08:40 -0000 Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:08:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Meyer To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: Mark Murray , Wayne Willcox , "Thomas G. Cleghorn" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps In-Reply-To: <22623.935592960@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote: :-> :->On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 16:40:54 +0200, Mark Murray wrote: :-> :->> The question at the end, is (paraphrased) "Where is the documentation :->> for us newbies whe dont know that the CDROM is /dev/wcd0c??". "man -k mount" and "man dmesg" return pointers to pretty much everything one needs to know on this subject. The question then becomes - how well do the documentation that people *not* familiar with the concept of man pages look at cover them? ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:09:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andym@ntt.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.noc.cup.ndp.net [127.0.0.1]) by dukat.noc.cup.ndp.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA97661 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:08:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andym@ntt.net) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 15:08:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Andy McConnell To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: make world fail: 'opperr' undelcared Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-2022-JP Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG make world gave up the following errors... cc -O -pipe -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/patch/getopt.c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/patch/getopt.c: In function `_getopt_internal': /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/patch/getopt.c:620: `opperr' undeclared (first use this function) /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/patch/getopt.c:620: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/patch/getopt.c:620: for each function it appears in.) *** Error code 1 Stop. (CVSUP last done 31 Aug 1999, running 3.2-RELEASE, last make world done Jul 8 1999) Any ideas? I've searched through the archives on freebsd.org, and even through dejanews, no one else has mentioned 'opperr'. -Andy -- Andy McConnell IP Operations Manager andym@ntt.net NTT America Network and IP Service Division +1 408 873 3757 $B??8~N}(B $B0BEHN6(B NTT$B%"%a%j%+(BIP$B%*%Z%l!<%7%g%sC4Ev2]D9(B Everyone has a photographic memory. Some just don't have film. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 1 20:48: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [209.157.82.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E76314FDF for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:48:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 73668 invoked by uid 100); 2 Sep 1999 03:47:22 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Sep 1999 03:47:22 -0000 Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:47:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Meyer To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to mount a CD.........in 250 easy steps In-Reply-To: <19990826130926.A48046@gurney.reilly.home> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Andrew Reilly wrote: :->This is one of the reasons that I only ever use MS-DOS-formatted :->floppies: there's no need to mount them, and all the mucking :->around that that entails. I just use mtools to talk to them. Hmmph. I consider "mtools" to be mucking about - confusion about drive letters, format conversions, etc. Personally, I only use floppies for moving data around, so I just I just added: /dev/fd0c /floppy msdos rw,noauto 0 0 to /etc/fstab, and floppies are no harder to deal with than cdroms: "mount /floppy" and it's there. If I need to use FFS-formatted floppies, I'll add another line. :->Perhaps mtools, or a similar toolset that knew how to read and :->write off-line FFS filesystems, could be hooked to run as mountable :->file system, amd/nfs-style. FFS? That wouldn't help with the cdrom problem that started this. But having to know another flag to mount (to get the fs right) seems much saner than having to know yet another set of commands to deal with an fs. ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:51:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 73754 invoked by uid 100); 2 Sep 1999 03:51:36 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Sep 1999 03:51:36 -0000 Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 20:51:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Meyer To: Neil Long Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question of longevity In-Reply-To: <990826161120.ZM4951@ratbert.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 26 Aug 1999, Neil Long wrote: :->I have a FreeBSD+drawbridge host which just runs and runs and has no :->problems. It has been up now for 444 days :->(2.2.6-RELEASE DRAWBRIDGE-3.0b2) :->and I am planning to upgrade it RSN! :-> :->Just wondered if FreeBSD ever suffered the 'uptime' problems that the :->L-Word did/does (498 day uptime can cause panics in some Linux :->kernels). I understand there was a bug in one of the early BSD distributions, such that the day field didn't format properly if it was more than three digits wide. Looks like it's fixed in this version, though. ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 21:22:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 74225 invoked by uid 100); 2 Sep 1999 04:22:39 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 2 Sep 1999 04:22:39 -0000 Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 21:22:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Meyer To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: encrypt In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 25 Aug 1999, Aldenor Falcao wrote: :-> :->I need to build python, cause the one the comes with 3.2 is broken. :-> It doesn't have the thread and SHA compiled in. Huh? The one I just built (3.2-STABLE from late May) has thread built in. Not sha, though - you're right. You do want the stuff in shamodule.c, right? But adding modules to Python is straightforward: Add the appropriate line to the Setup file in the /usr/ports/lang/python/work/Python-1.5.2/Modules/Setup file, *after* the "*shared*" line: sha shamodule.c Then do: ./makesetup make shamodule.so cp shamodule.so /usr/local/lib/site-python (You may want to chose something other than /usr/local/lib/site-python, but that works). After doing that, I can import sha, create new sha objects with sha.new, and use it like the other digest modules. :->Anyone of you otu there knows where can I find the Freesec lib? :-> :-> Any help will be appreciated. Try rebuilding the /usr/ports version, and going through the above. In particular, see if it builds the crypt module. Mine did, but that may be related to using it in the US. ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 21:48:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from adrian@ubergeeks.com) Received: from localhost (adrian@localhost) by thneed.ubergeeks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA01171 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 00:48:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from adrian@ubergeeks.com) X-Authentication-Warning: thneed.ubergeeks.com: adrian owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 00:47:55 -0400 (EDT) From: Adrian Filipi-Martin Reply-To: Adrian Filipi-Martin To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Interesting ways to print 3000 spaces... In-Reply-To: <199908291431.QAA08474@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 29 Aug 1999, Oliver Fromme wrote: > There would be another nice solution possible, but... > > printf '\t' | expand -3000 Try this instead: printf "%3000s" "" Adrian -- [ adrian@ubergeeks.com -- Ubergeeks Consulting -- http://www.ubergeeks.com/ ] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 1 22: 6:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8478215019 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 22:06:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA03125 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 21:59:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199909020459.VAA03125@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Fixes for build problems with SMP-stable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 01 Sep 1999 21:59:58 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ok; now I have a working -stable SMP system I can actually test this. What _was_ I smoking before? Can anyone with a -stable SMP system please apply the patches at http://www.freebsd.org/~msmith/stable-smp.diff and let me know whether these result in a buildable and runnable kernel? We need to get this into -stable ASAP for obvious reasons. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Sep 1 23:54: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (lazlo.steam.com [199.108.84.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E03BC15619 for ; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 23:53:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cliff@steam.com) Received: from lazlo.internal.steam.com (cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com [192.168.32.2]) by lazlo.internal.steam.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA68267; Wed, 1 Sep 1999 23:53:37 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Sep 1999 23:53:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Cliff Skolnick X-Sender: cliff@lazlo.internal.steam.com To: Mike Smith Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fixes for build problems with SMP-stable In-Reply-To: <199909020459.VAA03125@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG FreeBSD.org - Document not found On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > Ok; now I have a working -stable SMP system I can actually test this. > What _was_ I smoking before? > > Can anyone with a -stable SMP system please apply the patches at > http://www.freebsd.org/~msmith/stable-smp.diff and let me know whether > these result in a buildable and runnable kernel? We need to get this > into -stable ASAP for obvious reasons. > > > -- > \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith > \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- | Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to | | Steam Tunnel Operations | obtain a little temporary safety deserve | | cliff@steam.com | neither liberty nor safety." | | http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 0: 3:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from revolution.3-cities.com (revolution.3-cities.com [204.203.224.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 762A514F5C for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 00:03:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kstewart@3-cities.com) Received: from 3-cities.com (kenn1034.bossig.com [208.26.241.34]) by revolution.3-cities.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA23768; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 00:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37CE20F5.8256E94D@3-cities.com> Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 00:02:13 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Organization: Columbia Basin Virtual Community Project X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Cliff Skolnick Cc: Mike Smith , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fixes for build problems with SMP-stable References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Cliff Skolnick wrote: > > FreeBSD.org - Document not found Mike must have flipped a bit when he was copying that URL :). Try http://www.freebsd.org/~msmith/smp-stable.diff. BTW, you can find it the way I did by looking at http://www.freebsd.org/~msmith/ Kent > > On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > > Ok; now I have a working -stable SMP system I can actually test this. > > What _was_ I smoking before? > > > > Can anyone with a -stable SMP system please apply the patches at > > http://www.freebsd.org/~msmith/stable-smp.diff and let me know whether > > these result in a buildable and runnable kernel? We need to get this > > into -stable ASAP for obvious reasons. > > > > > > -- > > \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith > > \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org > > \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > -- > | Cliff Skolnick | "They that can give up essential liberty to | > | Steam Tunnel Operations | obtain a little temporary safety deserve | > | cliff@steam.com | neither liberty nor safety." | > | http://www.steam.com/ | -- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 | > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kstewart@3-cities.com http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/index.html SETI(Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) @ HOME http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/ Hunting Archibald Stewart, b 1802 in Ballymena, Antrim Co., NIR http://www.3-cities.com/~kstewart/genealogy/archibald_stewart.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 0:10:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgw00.execpc.com (mailgw00.execpc.com [169.207.1.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4277714F5C for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 00:10:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hamilton@pobox.com) Received: from woodstock.monkey.net (mercury-2-85.mdm.mkt.execpc.com [169.207.87.213]) by mailgw00.execpc.com (8.9.1) id CAA06581; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 02:08:19 -0500 Received: from pobox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by woodstock.monkey.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78519C1; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 02:09:53 -0500 (CDT) To: Cliff Skolnick Cc: Mike Smith , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fixes for build problems with SMP-stable In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 01 Sep 1999 23:53:37 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 02:09:53 -0500 From: Jon Hamilton Message-Id: <19990902070954.78519C1@woodstock.monkey.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Cliff Skolnick wrote: } } On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, Mike Smith wrote: } } > Ok; now I have a working -stable SMP system I can actually test this. } > What _was_ I smoking before? } > } > Can anyone with a -stable SMP system please apply the patches at } > http://www.freebsd.org/~msmith/stable-smp.diff and let me know whether } > these result in a buildable and runnable kernel? We need to get this } > into -stable ASAP for obvious reasons. } } FreeBSD.org - Document not found He meant to say http://www.freebsd.org/~msmith/smp-stable.diff . I had some linking problems when I tried it, but it's been some time since I've rebuilt and need to look into it a bit more before I grouse. My problems may be unrelated to the patches. -- Jon Hamilton hamilton@pobox.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 1:49: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BD2915592 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 01:49:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) id JAA57240; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:48:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from joe) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:48:20 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Mike Smith Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fixes for build problems with SMP-stable Message-ID: <19990902094820.G88479@pavilion.net> References: <199909020459.VAA03125@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <199909020459.VAA03125@dingo.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Wed, Sep 01, 1999 at 09:59:58PM -0700 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, 24 The Old Steine, Brighton, BN1 1EL, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Sep 01, 1999 at 09:59:58PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > Ok; now I have a working -stable SMP system I can actually test this. > What _was_ I smoking before? > > Can anyone with a -stable SMP system please apply the patches at > http://www.freebsd.org/~msmith/stable-smp.diff and let me know whether > these result in a buildable and runnable kernel? We need to get this > into -stable ASAP for obvious reasons. It builds with these patches. Hold on a second and I'll see whether it runs. Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 2:18: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FAEE14E29 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 02:18:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) id KAA62490; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:16:22 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from joe) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:16:22 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Mike Smith Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fixes for build problems with SMP-stable Message-ID: <19990902101621.K88479@pavilion.net> References: <199909020459.VAA03125@dingo.cdrom.com> <19990902094820.G88479@pavilion.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990902094820.G88479@pavilion.net>; from Josef Karthauser on Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 09:48:20AM +0100 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, 24 The Old Steine, Brighton, BN1 1EL, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 09:48:20AM +0100, Josef Karthauser wrote: > On Wed, Sep 01, 1999 at 09:59:58PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > Ok; now I have a working -stable SMP system I can actually test this. > > What _was_ I smoking before? > > > > Can anyone with a -stable SMP system please apply the patches at > > http://www.freebsd.org/~msmith/stable-smp.diff and let me know whether > > these result in a buildable and runnable kernel? We need to get this > > into -stable ASAP for obvious reasons. > > It builds with these patches. > Hold on a second and I'll see whether it runs. Yes, it boots and runs. Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 4:57:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from proteus.eclipse.net.uk (proteus.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.118]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88CD415B86; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 04:57:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@octarine.org) Received: from octarine.org (elara.eclipse.net.uk [195.188.32.31]) by proteus.eclipse.net.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id C25779B08; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:56:59 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <37CE66A2.77639ACD@octarine.org> Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 12:59:30 +0100 From: Stuart Henderson Organization: Octarine X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Shenton Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrade from 3.0-BETA to 3.2-STABLE: Pitfalls? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Here I'm very concerned about elf vs. aout or library > incompatibilities. There were also around that time some issues with > the boot sector (?) needing to be marked some special way but I've > forgotten. The ISP is 8 time zones away so I can't fix it if the make > world and new kernel fail. > > What problems can I expect? Suggestions for avoiding them? http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/UPDATING?rev=. Bootblocks and aout-to-elf info is around 19990106 There are some other changes to kernel config (particularly console/keyboard drivers) that may necessitate some changes when you rebuild the kernel (if the box won't run with a generic kernel that is an issue to look at before rather than after). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 6: 8:47 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from copland.udel.edu (copland.udel.edu [128.175.13.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E82C15C4C for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 06:08:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from papalia@UDel.Edu) Received: from localhost (papalia@localhost) by copland.udel.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA13697 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:08:51 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:08:51 -0400 (EDT) From: "John M. Papalia" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable papalia@udel.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 6:20:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8D4714C95 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 06:20:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11MWma-0006Yy-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 02 Sep 1999 15:20:04 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: kernel build: make does nothing Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 15:20:04 +0200 Message-ID: <25231.936278404@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi folks, It's been a while since I've built a kernel on a stable box and I'm having trouble, almost certainly due to some silliness on my part. I do this: cd /usr/src/sys/i386/conf config -gr GDB cd ../../compilg/GDB make depend This produces the expected results and I end up with a .depend file in the working directory. However, from here, both ``make'' and ``make all'' appear to do nothing -- there's certainly no output. This problem doesn't go away if I remove the -g option to config. What am I doing wrong? I suspect I've misunderstood a difference between CURRENT's config and STABLE's. Ciao, Sheldon. # Kernel config file for 3.2-STABLE: # ident GDB machine "i386" cpu "I686_CPU" # aka Pentium Pro(tm) maxusers 64 options MAXCONS=16 options "CPU_FASTER_5X86_FPU" options "COMPAT_43" options INET #Internet communications protocols options FFS #Fast filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device options MFS #Memory filesystem options NFS #Network filesystem options NFS_NOSERVER #Disable the NFS-server code. options PROCFS #Process filesystem options MSDOSFS #MS DOS filesystem options SOFTUPDATES options UCONSOLE options DDB options INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE # Include this file in kernel controller isa0 controller pci0 controller ppbus0 # parallel port bus system controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 flags 0xa0ffa0ff controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" irq 6 drq 2 controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1 device ed0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 device lpt0 at ppbus? device npx0 at isa? port IO_NPX iosiz 0x0 flags 0x0 irq 13 device ppc0 at isa? port? irq 7 device sc0 at isa? tty device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts pseudo-device splash pseudo-device ether #Generic Ethernet pseudo-device loop #Network loopback device pseudo-device bpfilter 2 #Berkeley packet filter pseudo-device pty 16 #Pseudo ttys - can go as high as 256 pseudo-device snp 1 #Snoop device - to look at pty/vty/etc.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 6:33:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from copland.udel.edu (copland.udel.edu [128.175.13.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9E614E41 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 06:33:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from papalia@UDel.Edu) Received: from localhost (papalia@localhost) by copland.udel.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA14915 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:33:49 -0400 (EDT) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:33:49 -0400 (EDT) From: "John M. Papalia" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Error in buildworld - termcap.src Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all - Just did a cvsup to get the latest and greatest for 3.2 stable, and my make buildworld is failing. Failed at the same spot 3 times. I tried removing and re-fetching the files in /home/src/share/termcap (that solution has worked for me before), but it didn't work. Here's the error: ex - /home/src/share/termcap/termcap.src < /home/src/share/termcap/reorder > /dev/null ex: vt100=: unknown terminal type *** Error code 1 Stop. Any ideas? Thanks!!! ---John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 6:45: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from misha.cisco.com (misha.cisco.com [171.69.206.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E4B215483; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 06:44:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@misha.cisco.com) Received: (from mi@localhost) by misha.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA30983; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:43:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from mi) Message-Id: <199909021343.JAA30983@misha.cisco.com> Subject: Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable In-Reply-To: <19990902080802.A39802@internal> from Andre Albsmeier at "Sep 2, 1999 08:08:02 am" To: Andre Albsmeier Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:43:07 -0400 (EDT) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: mi@aldan.algebra.com From: Mikhail Teterin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL60 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andre Albsmeier once wrote: > > Before running soffice for the first time -- apply the trick > > described by Andre Albsmeier on > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=432982+436209+/usr/local/www/db/text/1998/freebsd-hackers/19980628.freebsd-hackers > > > > to the freshly installed lib/libosl516li.so > > > > mv libosl516li.so libosl516li.so.bak > > sed -e 's,/proc/%u/cmdline,/compat/linux/so,' \ > > < libosl516li.so.bak > libosl516li.so > > touch /compat/linux/so > > I don't think this one is needed anymore ?!? It is. Without it, soffice keeps bringing up setup over and over instead of just starting the damn office. -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 7:13:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.ucb.crimea.ua (relay.ucb.crimea.ua [212.110.138.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 654761561A for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 07:12:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@ucb.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by relay.ucb.crimea.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3/UCB) id RAA71954; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 17:11:10 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 17:11:10 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: "John M. Papalia" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Error in buildworld - termcap.src Message-ID: <19990902171110.J14476@relay.ucb.crimea.ua> Mail-Followup-To: "John M. Papalia" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from John M. Papalia on Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 09:33:49AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 09:33:49AM -0400, John M. Papalia wrote: > Hi all - > > Just did a cvsup to get the latest and greatest for 3.2 stable, and my > make buildworld is failing. Failed at the same spot 3 times. I tried > removing and re-fetching the files in /home/src/share/termcap (that > solution has worked for me before), but it didn't work. Here's the error: > > ex - /home/src/share/termcap/termcap.src < /home/src/share/termcap/reorder > > /dev/null > ex: vt100=: unknown terminal type > *** Error code 1 > > Stop. > > Any ideas? > > Thanks!!! Make sure you can run vi(1), then continue with `world'. Seriously, your $TERM is not set properly. -- Ruslan Ermilov Sysadmin and DBA of the ru@ucb.crimea.ua United Commercial Bank, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.247.647 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 7:30:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.xmission.com (mail.xmission.com [198.60.22.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8987715B8F for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 07:30:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ekman@xmission.com) Received: from slc588.modem.xmission.com ([166.70.7.80] helo=xmission.com) by mail.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11MXrJ-0000Iz-00; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:29:01 -0600 Message-ID: <37CE8B08.5943AD62@xmission.com> Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 08:34:48 -0600 From: Pat Ekman X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.9 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Smith Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Fixes for build problems with SMP-stable References: <199909020459.VAA03125@dingo.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Smith wrote: > > Ok; now I have a working -stable SMP system I can actually test this. > What _was_ I smoking before? That I can't answer. :-) > Can anyone with a -stable SMP system please apply the patches at > http://www.freebsd.org/~msmith/stable-smp.diff and let me know whether > these result in a buildable and runnable kernel? We need to get this > into -stable ASAP for obvious reasons. This I can. It builds, boots and appears to run correctly. Thanks for restoring my faith in the -stable branch. > -- > \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith > \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Pat Ekman ekman@xmission.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 8:17: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pop111.ocn.ne.jp (pop111.ocn.ne.jp [202.234.233.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5FA155F5 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:17:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from academy@academyjapan.co.jp) Received: from pop111.ocn.ne.jp by pop111.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN) id AAA21423; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:16:44 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:16:44 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <199909021516.AAA21423@pop111.ocn.ne.jp> From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?QWNhZGVteSBKYXBhbn==?= To: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?ZnJlZWJzZC1zdGFibGVARnJlZUJTRC5vcmd=?= X-Mailer: Direct Email v0.22 Subject: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJUYlbCVTRUVPQyROJCpDTiRpJDshIRsoQkluZm8gb24gVmlkZW9waG9uZW==?= Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG $B$3$s$K$A$o!"(B $B$3$l$OJXMx!*(B Here's a good news for you, $B%[%F%k!"N94[!"C1?HIkG$!"N13X$K$b(B a news of the Videophone $B:GE,$J%K%e!<%9(B! over the normal coloer telephone line. $B:#!"@$3&$GOCBj$N4JC1%F%l%SEEOC(B All you have to do is just $B$N>R2p$G$9!#(B connect this videophone with $B<+Bp$N%F%l%S$HEEOC$K$D$J$0$@$1$G(B the telephone and television. $B#T#VEEOC$KAaJQ$o$j!*!J9);vITMW!K(B which you have in your home. $BEEOCBe$O!":#$^$G$HF1$8$G$9!#(B Telephone charge is the same as ever. $B1s$/$NM'?M$d2HB2$H!"4i$r8+$J$,$i(B Face to face communication with distant $BOC$;$k$N$G0l0B?4!*!*(B your distant family $BCMCJ$O0lBf$G(B69,000$B1_$G$9!#(B Price per unit: 6,9000 yen $B2<$r%/%j%C%/$7$F$_$F2<$5$$!#(B Please click left below. http://www.academyjapan.co.jp academy@academyjpan.co.jp $B%"%+%G%_!; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 08:53:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11MZAi-00077j-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 02 Sep 1999 17:53:08 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel build: make does nothing In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Sep 1999 15:20:04 +0200." <25231.936278404@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 17:53:08 +0200 Message-ID: <27386.936287588@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 15:20:04 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > However, from here, both ``make'' and ``make all'' appear to do nothing > -- there's certainly no output. This problem doesn't go away if I remove > the -g option to config. I've received private mail suggesting that the absence of the following line might be the cause of my problem: config kernel root on wd0 So it _was_ a problem going back to stable after a leave of absence. :-) Of course, ``disk wd0'' was also missing, but that's not what was causing my problem. Thanks, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 9: 7: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ugrad.unbc.ca (ugrad.unbc.ca [142.207.112.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC18A1552F; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:06:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from karlj000@unbc.ca) Received: from localhost (karlj000@localhost) by ugrad.unbc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id JAA27348; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:05:38 -0700 X-Authentication-Warning: ugrad.unbc.ca: karlj000 owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:05:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Carpathia To: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable In-Reply-To: <199909021343.JAA30983@misha.cisco.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > It is. Without it, soffice keeps bringing up setup over and over instead > of just starting the damn office. I tried it on the new new StarOffice (apparently) (libs ver 517) from Sun. This fix works for the user that installs it, but when anyone else goes to run it, it starts the setup. Just for giggles, I went 'chmod -R 777 *' to see what it would do, and that fixed it. I haven't really investigated it any more than that, I was just happy it ran. I might play with it more later today. Jeremy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 9: 7:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thoth.mch.sni.de (thoth.mch.sni.de [192.35.17.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05D3314C04 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:07:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer thoth.mch.sni.de) Received: from mail2.siemens.de (mail2.siemens.de [139.25.208.14]) by thoth.mch.sni.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA10635 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:07:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.42.7]) by mail2.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA06988 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:07:48 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA20062 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:07:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:07:46 +0200 From: Andre Albsmeier To: Mikhail Teterin Cc: Andre Albsmeier , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Linux StarOffice51 runs on -stable Message-ID: <19990902180746.B24161@internal> References: <19990902080802.A39802@internal> <199909021343.JAA30983@misha.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i In-Reply-To: <199909021343.JAA30983@misha.cisco.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ removed from -hackers ] On Thu, 02-Sep-1999 at 09:43:07 -0400, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Andre Albsmeier once wrote: > > > > Before running soffice for the first time -- apply the trick > > > described by Andre Albsmeier on > > > > > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=432982+436209+/usr/local/www/db/text/1998/freebsd-hackers/19980628.freebsd-hackers > > > > > > to the freshly installed lib/libosl516li.so > > > > > > mv libosl516li.so libosl516li.so.bak > > > sed -e 's,/proc/%u/cmdline,/compat/linux/so,' \ > > > < libosl516li.so.bak > libosl516li.so > > > touch /compat/linux/so > > > > I don't think this one is needed anymore ?!? > > It is. Without it, soffice keeps bringing up setup over and over instead > of just starting the damn office. Here it works without it. At least on 3.2-STABLE... > > -mi -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 9:13: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kogge.Hanse.DE (kogge.hanse.de [192.76.134.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBF0C15CC1 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:13:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from soenksen@planlos.hanse.de) Received: from planlos.hanse.de (uucp@localhost) by kogge.Hanse.DE (8.9.3/8.9.1) with UUCP id SAA99960 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:12:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from soenksen@planlos.hanse.de) Received: (from soenksen@localhost) by fury.planlos.lan (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA87010 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:10:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from soenksen) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:10:02 +0200 From: Sebastian Soenksen To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ?$B%F%l%SEEOC$N$*CN$i$;!!?(BInfo on Videophone Message-ID: <19990902181002.B84038@fury.planlos.lan> References: <199909021516.AAA21423@pop111.ocn.ne.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <199909021516.AAA21423@pop111.ocn.ne.jp>; from Academy Japan on Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 12:16:44AM +0900 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG could anybody set them on the blacklist? as far as i remember they spammed again some weeks ago.. bye -- Sebastian Soenksen ; soenksen@planlos.hanse.de ; diz@IRCNet ; pgpkey available commercial use of emailadresse not allowed ; http://www.planlos.hanse.de/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 9:58: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from easeway.com (ns1.easeway.com [209.69.39.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B355B14DD1 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 09:57:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwlucas@easeway.com) Received: (from mwlucas@localhost) by easeway.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id MAA13839 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:40:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199909021640.MAA13839@easeway.com> Subject: suggestion: distfiles CD To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:40:25 -0400 (EDT) From: mwlucas@exceptionet.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Just an idea I wanted to run by people: I'm not sure if anyone would be interested, and it might make the project some dough. (Alternately, I might be the only poor bastard in this position, but it can't hurt to ask.) As FreeBSD seems to be doing three releases a year, I find that the distfiles and packages on my machine are increasingly out of date. In my case, fetching distfiles and packages at work is difficult. I cvsup at home, and upgrade my ports tree accordingly. But for the last month, my distfiles CD has been completely useless. Every distfile I've wanted, I've had to download. If the mid-September date for the release of 3.3 is accurate, that means I have at least another month, probobly six weeks, until I get an updated CD. If FreeBSD is coming out only every four months, might people be interested in a "distfiles/packages" CD set on the alternate four months? The work would be minimal, compared to a regular snapshot. I, at least, would pay for it. Hell, I'd subscribe. Of course, I'm sure everyone else has a real Internet connection, and doesn't have to worry about this. ==ml -- Michael Lucas | Exceptionet, Inc. | www.exceptionet.com "Exceptional Networking" | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 10: 2:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from forrie.net (forrie.net [216.67.12.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4254814D9E for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:02:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from forrie@forrie.com) Received: from boomer (boomer.navinet.net [216.67.12.90]) by forrie.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA30297 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:01:34 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19990902125926.00ab33a0@216.67.12.69> X-Sender: forrie@216.67.12.69 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 13:00:02 -0400 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Forrest Aldrich Subject: Today's build croaks.... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG c++ -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/g++ -nostdinc -O -pipe -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include/g++ -I/usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/include -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/include -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/libio -I/usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/libstdc++ -c /usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/libg++/src/BitSet.cc -o BitSet.o /usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/libg++/src/BitSet.cc: In function `struct BitSetRep * BitSetresize(struct BitSetRep *, int)': /usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/libg++/src/BitSet.cc:143: Internal compiler error. /usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/libg++/src/BitSet.cc:143: Please submit a full bug report to `bug-g++@prep.ai.mit.edu'. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 10:11:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from melete.ch.intel.com (melete.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C64B914DD1 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:11:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by melete.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.6 1998/11/24 22:10:56 iwep Exp iwep $) with ESMTP id KAA08129; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:11:15 -0700 (MST) Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.8 1999/04/16 15:25:49 steved Exp steved $) with ESMTP id KAA14630; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:11:15 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id NAA13116; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:11:16 -0400 (EDT) From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14286.44979.132612.485811@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:11:15 -0700 (MST) To: mwlucas@exceptionet.com Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: suggestion: distfiles CD In-Reply-To: <199909021640.MAA13839@easeway.com> References: <199909021640.MAA13839@easeway.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.73 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Thursday, September 2, mwlucas@exceptionet.com wrote: ] > > But for the last month, my distfiles CD has been completely useless. > Every distfile I've wanted, I've had to download. If the mid-September > date for the release of 3.3 is accurate, that means I have at least > another month, probobly six weeks, until I get an updated CD. I concur. Same thing has happened to me repeatedly. > If FreeBSD is coming out only every four months, might people be > interested in a "distfiles/packages" CD set on the alternate four months? > The work would be minimal, compared to a regular snapshot. I, at least, > would pay for it. Hell, I'd subscribe. Sounds like a good idea in concept. As long as the cost wasn't too high for a monthly deal (say $7.99 or something--I'm assuming 1 disc here with the most "popular" port distfiles) I'd subscribe; if nothing else to continue to support the development of FreeBSD with more dough (which is the only reason I still subscribe to the CD release set at this point). > Of course, I'm sure everyone else has a real Internet connection, and > doesn't have to worry about this. Not me ... :) -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds CEG, CCE, Next Generation Flows, HLA | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 10:17: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E65A14C44 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:16:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11MaSa-0007U7-00; Thu, 02 Sep 1999 19:15:40 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Forrest Aldrich Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Today's build croaks.... In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Sep 1999 13:00:02 -0400." <4.2.0.58.19990902125926.00ab33a0@216.67.12.69> Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 19:15:40 +0200 Message-ID: <28774.936292540@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 13:00:02 -0400, Forrest Aldrich wrote: > /usr/src/gnu/lib/libg++/../../../contrib/libg++/libg++/src/BitSet.cc:143: > Internal compiler error. That message might indicate flakey hardware. I wouldn't mention it, but for the fact that I've just completed a successful ``make world'' after a successful ``make world'' last night. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 10:44:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pinhead.parag.codegen.com (207-44-235-154.CodeGen.COM [207.44.235.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52D615B89 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:44:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parag@pinhead.parag.codegen.com) Received: from pinhead.parag.codegen.com (parag@localhost.parag.codegen.com [127.0.0.1]) by pinhead.parag.codegen.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA08830; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 10:43:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from parag@pinhead.parag.codegen.com) To: Mike Smith Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fixes for build problems with SMP-stable In-Reply-To: Message from Mike Smith of "Wed, 01 Sep 1999 21:59:58 PDT." <199909020459.VAA03125@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Face: =O'Kj74icvU|oS*<7gS/8'\Pbpm}okVj*@UC!IgkmZQAO!W[|iBiMs*|)n*`X ]pW%m>Oz_mK^Gdazsr.Z0/JsFS1uF8gBVIoChGwOy{EK=<6g?aHE`[\S]C]T0Wm X-URL: http://www.codegen.com Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 10:43:21 -0700 Message-ID: <8826.936294201@pinhead.parag.codegen.com> From: Parag Patel Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Can anyone with a -stable SMP system please apply the patches at >http://www.freebsd.org/~msmith/stable-smp.diff and let me know whether >these result in a buildable and runnable kernel? We need to get this >into -stable ASAP for obvious reasons. Patches, builds, and runs fine for me, on a 4xPPro/200Mhz box with STABLE code checked out on Wednesday Sept 1. Thanks! -- Parag Patel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 11: 3: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mrelay.jrc.it (mrelay.jrc.it [139.191.1.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0AB714D79 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:03:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick.hibma@jrc.it) Received: from elect8 (elect8.jrc.it [139.191.71.152]) by mrelay.jrc.it (LMC5692) with ESMTP id UAA27278 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 20:03:02 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 20:03:02 +0200 (MET DST) From: Nick Hibma X-Sender: n_hibma@elect8 Reply-To: Nick Hibma To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: POS applications Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Could someone give me some ideas of where FreeBSD has been applied in POS applications or embedded systems? Thanks in advance. Nick -- ISIS/STA, T.P.270, Joint Research Centre, 21020 Ispra, Italy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 11:23:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blackhelicopters.org (geburah.blackhelicopters.org [209.69.178.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5D2155E5 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 11:23:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dispatch@blackhelicopters.org) Received: (from dispatch@localhost) by blackhelicopters.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA12553; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:22:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dispatch) From: Dispatcher Message-Id: <199909021822.OAA12553@blackhelicopters.org> Subject: Re: suggestion: distfiles CD In-Reply-To: <14286.44979.132612.485811@hip186.ch.intel.com> from John Reynolds~ at "Sep 2, 1999 10:11:15 am" To: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com (John Reynolds~) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 14:22:23 -0400 (EDT) Cc: stable@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Sounds like a good idea in concept. As long as the cost wasn't too high for a > monthly deal (say $7.99 or something--I'm assuming 1 disc here with the most > "popular" port distfiles) I'd subscribe; if nothing else to continue to support > the development of FreeBSD with more dough (which is the only reason I still > subscribe to the CD release set at this point). Well, I have an ISDN line at home... perfect for CVSup, lousy to download the GIMP. Perhaps a CD of "distfiles changed since the prior release"? ==ml To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 13:12:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail-01.cdsnet.net (mail-01.cdsnet.net [206.107.16.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EA0F414D3D for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:12:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mrcpu@internetcds.com) Received: (qmail 837 invoked from network); 2 Sep 1999 19:10:28 -0000 Received: from schizo.cdsnet.net (204.118.244.32) by mail.cdsnet.net with SMTP; 2 Sep 1999 19:10:28 -0000 Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 12:10:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Jaye Mathisen X-Sender: mrcpu@schizo.cdsnet.net To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Can't build SMP kernel today. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Getting this on a config that worked on 8/30: cc -c -O -pipe -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -DVM_STACK -include opt_global.h -elf ../../i386/i386/mem.c cc -c -O -pipe -Wreturn-type -Wcomment -Wredundant-decls -Wimplicit -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wuninitialized -Wformat -Wunused -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -DKERNEL -DVM_STACK -include opt_global.h -elf ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c: In function `smp_rendezvous_action': ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2687: warning: implicit declaration of function `atomic_add_int' ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c: In function `smp_rendezvous': ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2711: `smp_rv_lock' undeclared (first use this function) ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2711: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2711: for each function it appears in.) ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2723: `PSL_I' undeclared (first use this function) machine/cpufunc.h:419: warning: inlining failed in call to `write_eflags' ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2723: warning: called from here *** Error code 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 13:17:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C024F14D3D for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:17:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id WAA03204; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 22:02:28 +0200 (MET DST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA06499; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 21:21:35 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wilko) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199909021921.VAA06499@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: suggestion: distfiles CD In-Reply-To: <199909021640.MAA13839@easeway.com> from "mwlucas@exceptionet.com" at "Sep 2, 1999 12:40:25 pm" To: mwlucas@exceptionet.com Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 21:21:34 +0200 (CEST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As mwlucas@exceptionet.com wrote ... > But for the last month, my distfiles CD has been completely useless. > Every distfile I've wanted, I've had to download. If the mid-September > date for the release of 3.3 is accurate, that means I have at least > another month, probobly six weeks, until I get an updated CD. > > If FreeBSD is coming out only every four months, might people be > interested in a "distfiles/packages" CD set on the alternate four months? > The work would be minimal, compared to a regular snapshot. I, at least, > would pay for it. Hell, I'd subscribe. I've done the same thing for my personal use. But beware: 1 CD is not big enough to hold all distfiles. Wilko -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 13:18:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E62F15016 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:18:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA00990; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:11:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199909022011.NAA00990@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Jaye Mathisen Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't build SMP kernel today. In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Sep 1999 12:10:16 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 13:11:38 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > Getting this on a config that worked on 8/30: You are supposed to be reading -stable and testing the patchset I posted a reference to last night. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 13:37:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from moebius2.Space.Net (moebius2.Space.Net [195.30.1.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 01FDE15B8F for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 13:37:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from maex@Space.Net) Received: (qmail 6683 invoked by uid 1013); 2 Sep 1999 20:37:49 -0000 Message-ID: <19990902223748.O4058@space.net> Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 22:37:49 +0200 From: Markus Stumpf To: Mike Meyer , Neil Long Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question of longevity References: <990826161120.ZM4951@ratbert.oucs.ox.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Mike Meyer on Wed, Sep 01, 1999 at 08:51:36PM -0700 Organization: SpaceNet GmbH, Muenchen, Germany Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Sep 01, 1999 at 08:51:36PM -0700, Mike Meyer wrote: > :->Just wondered if FreeBSD ever suffered the 'uptime' problems that the > :->L-Word did/does (498 day uptime can cause panics in some Linux > :->kernels). > > I understand there was a bug in one of the early BSD distributions, > such that the day field didn't format properly if it was more than > three digits wide. Looks like it's fixed in this version, though. 498 should not be a problem on 2.2.6-RELEASE (except it was broken after 2.2.1) ... $ uname -v FreeBSD 2.2.1-RELEASE (CHDKERNEL) #0: Mon Jun 23 16:49:02 CEST 1997 $ uptime 10:34PM up 661 days, 1:59, 2 users, load averages: 0.08, 0.10, 0.08 :-))) \Maex -- SpaceNet GmbH | http://www.Space.Net/ | Yeah, yo mama dresses Research & Development | mailto:maex-sig@Space.Net | you funny and you need Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 | Tel: +49 (89) 32356-0 | a mouse to delete files D-80807 Muenchen | Fax: +49 (89) 32356-299 | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 15:19: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from spork.cs.unm.edu (mail.cs.unm.edu [198.59.151.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E4F314EFF for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:19:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from colinj@cs.unm.edu) Received: from nobby.cs.unm.edu ([198.59.151.103] ident=mail) by spork.cs.unm.edu with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 11MfB8-00022E-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 16:17:58 -0600 Received: from colinj by nobby.cs.unm.edu with local-esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 11MfB8-0000KO-00; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 16:17:58 -0600 Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 16:17:58 -0600 (MDT) From: Colin Eric Johnson To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: suggestion: distfiles CD In-Reply-To: <14286.44979.132612.485811@hip186.ch.intel.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, John Reynolds~ wrote: > > [ On Thursday, September 2, mwlucas@exceptionet.com wrote: ] > > > > But for the last month, my distfiles CD has been completely useless. > > Every distfile I've wanted, I've had to download. If the mid-September > > date for the release of 3.3 is accurate, that means I have at least > > another month, probobly six weeks, until I get an updated CD. > > I concur. Same thing has happened to me repeatedly. > > > If FreeBSD is coming out only every four months, might people be > > interested in a "distfiles/packages" CD set on the alternate four months? > > The work would be minimal, compared to a regular snapshot. I, at least, > > would pay for it. Hell, I'd subscribe. > > Sounds like a good idea in concept. As long as the cost wasn't too high for a > monthly deal (say $7.99 or something--I'm assuming 1 disc here with the most > "popular" port distfiles) I'd subscribe; if nothing else to continue to support > the development of FreeBSD with more dough (which is the only reason I still > subscribe to the CD release set at this point). > > > Of course, I'm sure everyone else has a real Internet connection, and > > doesn't have to worry about this. > > Not me ... :) another solution, or part of this solution, might be to offer a CD image that could be downloaded and burnt. Given some of the more active user groups in some areas this might be a great way to get CDs out to folks. It could cost as little as $1.00 for CDs in that fashion. I don't know if there are things in/on the distfiles CD(s) have copyright restrictions. Colin E. Johnson | colinj@unm.edu | http://www.unm.edu/~colinj/ Harming only the humorless since 1967 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 15:37:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from asteroid.svib.ru (asteroid.svib.ru [195.151.166.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADD8D14D55 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:37:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru) Received: from shuttle.svib.ru ([212.46.6.124]) by asteroid.svib.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA56787 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 02:35:45 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru) Received: (from tarkhil@localhost) by shuttle.svib.ru (8.9.3/8.8.8) id CAA08992; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 02:35:42 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from tarkhil) From: Alex Povolotsky MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14286.64442.391742.421109@shuttle.svib.ru> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 02:35:38 +0400 (MSD) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Cannot make release on STABLE? X-Mailer: VM 6.71 under 21.1 "20 Minutes to Nikko" XEmacs Lucid (patch 2) X-URL: http://freebsd.svib.ru Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello! I'm trying to make release on stable, with the following script === cut === #!/bin/csh setenv CHROOTDIR /data/stable setenv CVSROOT /data/ncvs setenv BUILDNAME 3.2-`date "+%Y%m%d"`-STABLE setenv RELEASETAG RELENG_3 echo Building $BUILDNAME setenv PAPERSIZE a4 #setenv RELEASENOUPDATE ( make release && echo "stable rebuilt OK" | mail \ 35442@pager.multi-page.ru ) || echo "Failed to rebuild stable" | mail \ 35442@pager.multi-page.ru === cut === but build always fails with cd /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1 ; make afterdistribute DESTDIR=/R/stage/trees/bin ===> en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles cd /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles ; make afterdistribute DESTDIR=/R/stage/tr ees/bin ===> en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/diskless-x make: don't know how to make distribute. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop. What could I do wrong? -- Alexander B. Povolotsky [ICQ 18277558] [2:5020/145] [http://freebsd.svib.ru] [tarkhil@asteroid.svib.ru] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 15:59:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pluto.ipass.net (pluto.ipass.net [198.79.53.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04BA914C95 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 15:59:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhh@ipass.net) Received: from stealth.ipass.net. (ppp-1-97.dialup.rdu.ipass.net [209.170.132.97]) by pluto.ipass.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA07081 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:58:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rhh@localhost) by stealth.ipass.net. (8.9.3/8.8.8) id TAA07972 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 19:00:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rhh) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 19:00:08 -0400 From: Randall Hopper To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Best Kernel Settings -- AMD K6-III Message-ID: <19990902190007.A7044@ipass.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Got a question (or two). What is the recommended set of flags to use for an AMD K6-III on 3.2-RELEASE? I noticed: options CPU_WT_ALLOC in LINT. Would I be wise to enable it (i.e. is it stable)? How about NO_MEMORY_HOLE? Also, do I need to do anything to enable Write Combining? I believe my BIOS enables it by default, but I'm not sure if that carries over across FreeBSD boot. How about MTRRs (no "MTRR" in my Features line). Anything I need to/can do to set those up? Thanks, Randall ---------------------------------------------------------------------- CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D+ Processor (399.81-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x591 Stepping=1 Features=0x8021bf ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 16:36:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40D1B14FAB for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 16:36:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA02064; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 16:29:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199909022329.QAA02064@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Colin Eric Johnson Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: suggestion: distfiles CD In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Sep 1999 16:17:58 MDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 16:29:43 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > > If FreeBSD is coming out only every four months, might people be > > > interested in a "distfiles/packages" CD set on the alternate four months? > > > The work would be minimal, compared to a regular snapshot. I, at least, > > > would pay for it. Hell, I'd subscribe. It's call the "FreeBSD Toolkit", and it's 6 CDROMs. > another solution, or part of this solution, might be to offer a CD image > that could be downloaded and burnt. Given some of the more active user > groups in some areas this might be a great way to get CDs out to folks. It > could cost as little as $1.00 for CDs in that fashion. I don't know if > there are things in/on the distfiles CD(s) have copyright restrictions. Yeah. Download all the distfiles, instead of just the ones you need. Marvellous. 8( -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 16:47:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (cm-24-142-61-124.cableco-op.ispchannel.com [24.142.61.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AEDC14CC4 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 16:47:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mistwolf@diarmadhi.mushhaven.net) Received: (from mistwolf@localhost) by diarmadhi.mushhaven.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA57573; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 16:48:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mistwolf) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 16:48:09 -0700 From: Jamie Norwood To: Mike Smith Cc: Colin Eric Johnson , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: suggestion: distfiles CD Message-ID: <19990902164809.A57535@mushhaven.net> References: <199909022329.QAA02064@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i In-Reply-To: <199909022329.QAA02064@dingo.cdrom.com>; from Mike Smith on Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 04:29:43PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 04:29:43PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > It's call the "FreeBSD Toolkit", and it's 6 CDROMs. Waaaay overkill for what is being asked about. And besides, this only comes out, what, twice a year? Less often than FreeBSD, at the least. Personally, I subscribe to this, but have never used it so will be cancelling. The ports distfiles were hard to locate anything on, there was no documentation on how to access any of it's features, and most of it was very outdated before it was even released. On top of that, 3.2 came out soon after this was released, rendering it even more useless. All in all, this product got a definate 'f' from me, and I don't recommend it to anyone. > > another solution, or part of this solution, might be to offer a CD image > > that could be downloaded and burnt. Given some of the more active user > > groups in some areas this might be a great way to get CDs out to folks. It > > could cost as little as $1.00 for CDs in that fashion. I don't know if > > there are things in/on the distfiles CD(s) have copyright restrictions. > > Yeah. Download all the distfiles, instead of just the ones you need. > Marvellous. 8( I agree, this doesn't suit the original suggestion at all. Not everyone has CD burners, either. Jamie > -- > \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith > \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 16:55:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pan.ch.intel.com (pan.ch.intel.com [143.182.246.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A98A815CA9 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 16:55:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by pan.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.6 1998/11/24 22:10:56 iwep Exp iwep $) with ESMTP id QAA23392; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 16:54:18 -0700 (MST) Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.8 1999/04/16 15:25:49 steved Exp steved $) with ESMTP id QAA13346; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 16:54:18 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id TAA25092; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 19:54:19 -0400 (EDT) From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14287.3626.443281.90733@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 16:54:18 -0700 (MST) To: Jamie Norwood Cc: Mike Smith , Colin Eric Johnson , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: suggestion: distfiles CD In-Reply-To: <19990902164809.A57535@mushhaven.net> References: <199909022329.QAA02064@dingo.cdrom.com> <19990902164809.A57535@mushhaven.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Thursday, September 2, Jamie Norwood wrote: ] > > I agree, this doesn't suit the original suggestion at all. Not everyone has > CD burners, either. I believe the original gentleman's suggestion for this burning of a "changed distfiles CD" was geared towards 1 person within an active FreeBSD user's group--people within that users' group could spend all of a buck and get a copy of the CD. I don't think he suggested the average user would take this distfiles CD image and burn it for himself ... Cheers, -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds CEG, CCE, Next Generation Flows, HLA | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 17:20:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from spork.cs.unm.edu (mail.cs.unm.edu [198.59.151.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C95B14DCF for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 17:20:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from colinj@cs.unm.edu) Received: from nobby.cs.unm.edu ([198.59.151.103] ident=mail) by spork.cs.unm.edu with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 11Mh5N-0004BF-00; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:20:09 -0600 Received: from colinj by nobby.cs.unm.edu with local-esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 11Mh5I-0000PA-00; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:20:04 -0600 Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:20:04 -0600 (MDT) From: Colin Eric Johnson To: John Reynolds~ Cc: Jamie Norwood , Mike Smith , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: suggestion: distfiles CD In-Reply-To: <14287.3626.443281.90733@hip186.ch.intel.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 2 Sep 1999, John Reynolds~ wrote: > > [ On Thursday, September 2, Jamie Norwood wrote: ] > > > > I agree, this doesn't suit the original suggestion at all. Not everyone has > > CD burners, either. > > I believe the original gentleman's suggestion for this burning of a "changed > distfiles CD" was geared towards 1 person within an active FreeBSD user's > group--people within that users' group could spend all of a buck and get > a copy of the CD. I don't think he suggested the average user would take > this distfiles CD image and burn it for himself ... That's It Exactly! Thanks John! I was starting to worry that my words had been taken the wrong way. My hope is that if such a CD would be created and sold it could also be offered as a downloadable ISO image for folks to burn and distribute. I'm wondering if there are things in the distfiles dir on freebsd.org that can't go on to a CD at all? Colin E. Johnson | colinj@unm.edu | http://www.unm.edu/~colinj/ "As Jun [Murai] explains it, `I can go to the bar and drink beer. I go to a phone and ping my routers, and if they are still working, I go back and drink more beer.'" Carl Malamud _Exploring_the_Internet_ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 17:49:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8347614DC3 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 17:49:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA61411; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 17:46:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: Jamie Norwood Cc: Mike Smith , Colin Eric Johnson , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: suggestion: distfiles CD In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Sep 1999 16:48:09 PDT." <19990902164809.A57535@mushhaven.net> Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 17:46:13 -0700 Message-ID: <61407.936319573@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Waaaay overkill for what is being asked about. And besides, this only comes >out, what, twice a year? Less often than FreeBSD, at the least. Personally, >I subscribe to this, but have never used it so will be cancelling. The ports >distfiles were hard to locate anything on, there was no documentation on how >to access any of it's features, and most of it was very outdated before it was >even released. On top of that, 3.2 came out soon after this was released, >rendering it even more useless. All in all, this product got a definate 'f' > from me, and I don't recommend it to anyone. I'm sorry you had such an unpleasant experience with the toolkit, though you should also bear in mind that this was our very _first_ run at this product and if you ever saw the FreeBSD 1.0 CD, you'll realize that we do evolve in response to customer feedback. The toolkit is no exception, and I believe the 2nd one will be far more useful than the 1st, the 3rd probably being even more useful, and so on. :) Doing CDs takes time, both for production and replication, and doing 10 releases a year of a "distfiles" CD or whatever is just not practical. I hope that we'll do the toolkit more often, say 3-4 times a year, and having 6 CDs available will mean that we'll be able to put a lot more distfiles on it. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 18:45:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt010nb9.san.rr.com (dt010nb9.san.rr.com [204.210.12.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5532314A09 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:45:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by dt010nb9.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA51962 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:45:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 18:45:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug X-Sender: doug@dt010nb9.san.rr.com To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Urgent(?) today's 3.3-RC crashes on boot Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I say (?) because I strongly suspect that this is flaky hardware, however after spending the afternoon installing freebsd 3.2-Stable from 9/24, then upgrading via cvsup to the most recent 3.3-RC sources my machine crashed on reboot. I got dumps from 1 out of 7-10 boots. Here is what they looked like (copied by hand): Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf int=0000000e err=00000007 efl=00010216 eip=000052dc eax=00000004 ebx=000095ec ecx=00000001 edx=000095ec esi=00025f68 edi=00094188 ebp=00093fa4 esp=00093fa4 cc=002b ds=0033 es=0033 fs=0033 gs=0033 ss=0033 cs:eip=01 42 14 c9 c3 8d 76 00-55 89 e5 53 8b 5d 08 85 ss:esp=cc 3f 09 00 e2 7e 00 00-ec 95 00 00 01 00 00 00 I suspect flaky hardware due to the fact that it wasn't consistent, and I used a configuration almost identical to the other similar boxes we have. Also the last batch of boxes from this vendor has had some other problems. I'm having the night guys take the box down off the rack and reseat everything to see if that helps. If anyone has any suggestions (assuming the box is still borked tomorrow) or something for me to test (like ddb, etc.) just let me know. Boxes are Rack-mounts, Intel N440BX mb's with onboard Intel etherexpress. This one has 128M of ram, 450 Mhz PII and a 16G IDE HD. Thanks, Doug -- "My mama told me, my mama said, 'don't cry.' She said, 'you're too young a man to have as many women you got.' I looked at my mother dear and didn't even crack a smile. I said, 'If women kill me, I don't mind dyin!'" - John Belushi as "Joliet" Jake Blues, "I Don't Know" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 21:35: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E20D14C82 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 21:35:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA62185 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 21:34:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Latest -stable breakage. :-( Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 21:34:37 -0700 Message-ID: <62181.936333277@localhost> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [Building an SMP kernel] ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c: In function `smp_rendezvous_action': ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2687: warning: implicit declaration of function `atomic_add_int' ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c: In function `smp_rendezvous': ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2711: `smp_rv_lock' undeclared (first use this function) ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2711: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2711: for each function it appears in.) ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2723: `PSL_I' undeclared (first use this function) machine/cpufunc.h:419: warning: inlining failed in call to `write_eflags' ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2723: warning: called from here *** Error code 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 22:42:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from valis.worldgate.ca (valis.worldgate.ca [198.161.84.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DA0714EA7 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 22:41:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from skafte@valis.worldgate.ca) Received: (from skafte@localhost) by valis.worldgate.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id XAA75785; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 23:41:48 -0600 (MDT) Date: Thu, 2 Sep 1999 23:41:48 -0600 From: Greg Skafte To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: grog@lemis.com Subject: Vinum Kernel panic Message-ID: <19990902234148.A74752@valis.worldgate.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i Organization: WorldGate Inc. X-PGP-Fingerprint: 42 9C 2C A8 4D 2B C9 C4 7D B6 00 B0 50 47 20 97 X-URL: http://gras-varg.worldgate.com/~skafte Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just cvsuped Freebsd RELENG_3 this evening and vinum cause the following: Kernel Panic Fatal trap 12 page Fault while in kernel mode Fault Virtual address= 0x10 Fault Code = supervisor read, page not present Instruction Pointer = 0x8:0xc128a8bb Stack Pointer = 0x10: 0xcc1e5c40 Frame Pointer = 0x10: 0xcc1e5c94 Code Segment = base 0x0, limit 0xffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def 321, gran 1 Processor eflags = int enabled, resume IOPL 0 Current Process = 16 (vinum) interupt mask = trap number = 12 Panic: page fault ----------------------Kerenel conf -------------------------- # # GENERIC -- Generic machine with WD/AHx/NCR/BTx family disks # # For more information read the handbook part System Administration -> # Configuring the FreeBSD Kernel -> The Configuration File. # The handbook is available in /usr/share/doc/handbook or online as # latest version from the FreeBSD World Wide Web server # # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT. # # $Id: GENERIC,v 1.143.2.9 1999/04/19 20:11:32 n_hibma Exp $ machine "i386" cpu "I586_CPU" cpu "I686_CPU" ident NEMISIS maxusers 64 options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MFS_ROOT #MFS usable as root device, "MFS" req'ed options NFS #Network Filesystem options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, "NFS" req'ed options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options "CD9660" #ISO 9660 Filesystem options "CD9660_ROOT" #CD-ROM usable as root. "CD9660" req'ed options PROCFS #Process filesystem options "COMPAT_43" #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] #options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console #options FAILSAFE #Be conservative options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor config kernel root on wd0 # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed #options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel #options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O # Optionally these may need tweaked, (defaults shown): #options NCPU=2 # number of CPUs #options NBUS=4 # number of busses #options NAPIC=1 # number of IO APICs #options NINTR=24 # number of INTs controller isa0 #controller eisa0 controller pci0 controller fdc0 at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 disk fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 disk fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 options "CMD640" # work around CMD640 chip deficiency controller wdc0 at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio flags 0xe0ffe0ff irq 14 disk wd0 at wdc0 drive 0 disk wd1 at wdc0 drive 1 controller wdc1 at isa? port "IO_WD2" bio flags 0xe0ffe0ff irq 15 disk wd2 at wdc1 drive 0 disk wd3 at wdc1 drive 1 options ATAPI #Enable ATAPI support for IDE bus options ATAPI_STATIC #Don't do it as an LKM device acd0 #IDE CD-ROM device wfd0 #IDE Floppy (e.g. LS-120) # A single entry for any of these controllers (ncr, ahb, ahc) is # sufficient for any number of installed devices. #controller ncr0 #controller ahb0 #controller ahc0 #controller isp0 # This controller offers a number of configuration options, too many to # document here - see the LINT file in this directory and look up the # dpt0 entry there for much fuller documentation on this. #controller dpt0 #controller adv0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? #controller adw0 #controller bt0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? #controller aha0 at isa? port ? cam irq ? # #controller scbus0 #device da0 #device sa0 #device pass0 #device cd0 #Only need one of these, the code dynamically grows #device wt0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 #device mcd0 at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 10 #controller matcd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio #device scd0 at isa? port 0x230 bio # atkbdc0 controlls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse controller atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD tty device atkbd0 at isa? tty irq 1 device psm0 at isa? tty irq 12 device vga0 at isa? port ? conflicts # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? tty # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? tty #options XSERVER # support for X server #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std device npx0 at isa? port IO_NPX irq 13 # # Laptop support (see LINT for more options) # device apm0 at isa? disable flags 0x31 # Advanced Power Management # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support #controller card0 #device pcic0 at card? #device pcic1 at card? device sio0 at isa? port "IO_COM1" flags 0x10 tty irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 device sio2 at isa? disable port "IO_COM3" tty irq 5 device sio3 at isa? disable port "IO_COM4" tty irq 9 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? port? net irq 7 controller ppbus0 device nlpt0 at ppbus? #device plip0 at ppbus? #device ppi0 at ppbus? #controller vpo0 at ppbus? # # The following Ethernet NICs are all PCI devices. # device ax0 # ASIX AX88140A device de0 # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') device fxp0 # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) device mx0 # Macronix 98713/98715/98725 (``PMAC'') device pn0 # Lite-On 82c168/82c169 (``PNIC'') device rl0 # RealTek 8129/8139 device tl0 # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN device tx0 # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'') device vr0 # VIA Rhine, Rhine II device vx0 # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') device wb0 # Winbond W89C840F device xl0 # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # Order is important here due to intrusive probes, do *not* alphabetize # this list of network interfaces until the probes have been fixed. # Right now it appears that the ie0 must be probed before ep0. See # revision 1.20 of this file. #device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 #device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 #device ep0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 #device ex0 at isa? port? net irq? #device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ? #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 #device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 0 #device ze0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 #device zp0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 #device cs0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq ? pseudo-device loop pseudo-device ether #pseudo-device sl 1 #pseudo-device ppp 1 pseudo-device tun 1 pseudo-device pty 16 pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's # KTRACE enables the system-call tracing facility ktrace(2). # This adds 4 KB bloat to your kernel, and slightly increases # the costs of each syscall. options KTRACE #kernel tracing # This provides support for System V shared memory and message queues. # options SYSVSHM options SYSVMSG options SYSVSEM # The `bpfilter' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. Be # aware of the legal and administrative consequences of enabling this # option. The number of devices determines the maximum number of # simultaneous BPF clients programs runnable. pseudo-device bpfilter 4 #Berkeley packet filter options SOFTUPDATES ----------- vinum config # Vinum configuration of nemisis.worldgate.ca, saved at Thu Sep 2 23:26:02 1999 drive usr1 device /dev/wd0f drive home1 device /dev/wd0g drive usr2 device /dev/wd2s2f drive home2 device /dev/wd2s2g volume usr volume home plex name usr.p0 org striped 512b vol usr plex name home.p0 org concat vol home plex name home.p1 org concat vol home sd name usr.p0.s0 drive usr1 plex usr.p0 len 2095104b driveoffset 265b plexoffset 0b sd name usr.p0.s1 drive usr2 plex usr.p0 len 2095104b driveoffset 265b plexoffset 512b sd name home.p0.s0 drive home1 plex home.p0 len 3194880b driveoffset 265b plexoffset 0b sd name home.p1.s0 drive home2 plex home.p1 len 3194880b driveoffset 265b plexoffset 0b ------------------------------------------------------------------- I pulled /* $Id: v.c,v 1.4.2.3 1999/05/05 05:11:14 grog Exp $ */ and /* $Id: vinum.c,v 1.7.2.3 1999/05/05 05:15:37 grog Exp $ etc from a back up and am having no issues. -- Email: skafte@worldgate.com Voice: +403 413 1910 Fax: +403 421 4929 #575 Sun Life Place * 10123 99 Street * Edmonton, AB * Canada * T5J 3H1 -- -- PGP 2.6.2 Key fingerprint = 42 9C 2C A8 4D 2B C9 C4 7D B6 00 B0 50 47 20 97 http://gras-varg.worldgate.com/~skafte/ http://www.worldgate.com/ -- -- When things can't get any worse, they simplify themselves by getting a whole lot worse then complicated. A complete and utter disaster is the simplest thing in the world; it's preventing one that's complex. (Janet Morris) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 23:14:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from valis.worldgate.ca (valis.worldgate.ca [198.161.84.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69D4215283; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 23:14:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from skafte@valis.worldgate.ca) Received: (from skafte@localhost) by valis.worldgate.ca (8.9.3/8.9.1) id AAA77060; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:13:34 -0600 (MDT) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:13:33 -0600 From: Greg Skafte To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: RELENG_3 and diskless booting Message-ID: <19990903001333.B74752@valis.worldgate.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i Organization: WorldGate Inc. X-PGP-Fingerprint: 42 9C 2C A8 4D 2B C9 C4 7D B6 00 B0 50 47 20 97 X-URL: http://gras-varg.worldgate.com/~skafte Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG please followup only in hackers..... I've Just cvsuped freebsd RELENG_3 as of this evening (~21:00 mdt) and using a rom built with etherboot 4.1b9 which has worked flawlessly for the last couple of months. Tonight I getting Searching for server... My IP xxx.yyy.zzz.www Server IP aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd, GW IP fff.ggg.hhh.iii Loading /disklessroot/hostname/kernel... FreeBSD-elf Entry = 0xC01178A0 Segment -1, offset 00000000, read 00000200, loadpoint 00000000 text size 2 =0x001583fe 00000000 c0100000 Segment 2, offset 00000000, read 00000200, loadpoint 00100000 Segment 2, offset 00000000, read 00158400, loadpoint 00258200 Write trailing bit data size 3= 0x00018780 00158400 C0259400 Segment 3, offset 00000000, read 00158400, loadpoint 00259400 Then the machine reboots .... previously it did ..... My IP xxx.yyy.zzz.www Server IP aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd, GW IP fff.ggg.hhh.iii Loading /disklessroot/hostname/kernel... FreeBSD-elf Entry = 0xC0117669 Segment -1, offset 00000000, read 00000200, loadpoint 00000000 text size 2 =0x001566c6 00000000 c0100000 Segment 2, offset 00000000, read 00000200, loadpoint 00100000 Segment 2, offset 00000000, read 00158400, loadpoint 00258200 Write trailing bit data size 3= 0x00018604 001566c8 c02576c8 Segment 3, offset 000000c8, read 00156800, loadpoint 002576c8 then up comes the normal kernel boot messages to console.... I see a lot of changes have occured, the booting kernel is FreeBSD xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 3.2-STABLE FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE #9: Thu Aug 26 22: 00:55 MDT 1999 root@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:/usr/src/sys/compile/DISKLESS i386 and was cvsuped on Aug 26 around 21:00 MDT -- Email: skafte@worldgate.com Voice: +403 413 1910 Fax: +403 421 4929 #575 Sun Life Place * 10123 99 Street * Edmonton, AB * Canada * T5J 3H1 -- -- PGP 2.6.2 Key fingerprint = 42 9C 2C A8 4D 2B C9 C4 7D B6 00 B0 50 47 20 97 http://gras-varg.worldgate.com/~skafte/ http://www.worldgate.com/ -- -- When things can't get any worse, they simplify themselves by getting a whole lot worse then complicated. A complete and utter disaster is the simplest thing in the world; it's preventing one that's complex. (Janet Morris) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 23:39:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC6E814DC3 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 23:39:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19955; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:39:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA16966; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:39:29 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199909030639.AAA16966@harmony.village.org> To: Forrest Aldrich Subject: Re: Today's build croaks.... Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Sep 1999 13:00:02 EDT." <4.2.0.58.19990902125926.00ab33a0@216.67.12.69> References: <4.2.0.58.19990902125926.00ab33a0@216.67.12.69> Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 00:39:28 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Odd. I've got well past that in my buildworld. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 23:45:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7DB14DC3 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 23:45:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA19972; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:43:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id AAA20099; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:43:27 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199909030643.AAA20099@harmony.village.org> To: Doug Subject: Re: Urgent(?) today's 3.3-RC crashes on boot Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Sep 1999 18:45:36 PDT." References: Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 00:43:26 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Doug writes: : I say (?) because I strongly suspect that this is flaky : hardware, however after spending the afternoon installing freebsd : 3.2-Stable from 9/24, then upgrading via cvsup to the most recent 3.3-RC I found that a 19990818 snapshot would cause almost identical dumps like the following on a regular basis. : Boxes are Rack-mounts, Intel N440BX mb's with onboard Intel : etherexpress. This one has 128M of ram, 450 Mhz PII and a 16G IDE HD. I was seeing this on a mini 486DX2 that I bought to turn into a router and a dumpster (machine with tape drive and little else to do network backups). Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Sep 2 23:46:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles547.castles.com [208.214.165.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 003C614DC3 for ; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 23:46:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA00457; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 23:40:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199909030640.XAA00457@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Doug Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Urgent(?) today's 3.3-RC crashes on boot In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Sep 1999 18:45:36 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 23:40:10 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I say (?) because I strongly suspect that this is flaky > hardware, however after spending the afternoon installing freebsd > 3.2-Stable from 9/24, then upgrading via cvsup to the most recent 3.3-RC > sources my machine crashed on reboot. I got dumps from 1 out of 7-10 > boots. Here is what they looked like (copied by hand): If it's random like that, it's fairly hard to pin it on the loader. > Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf > > int=0000000e err=00000007 efl=00010216 eip=000052dc > eax=00000004 ebx=000095ec ecx=00000001 edx=000095ec > esi=00025f68 edi=00094188 ebp=00093fa4 esp=00093fa4 > > cc=002b ds=0033 es=0033 fs=0033 gs=0033 ss=0033 > > cs:eip=01 42 14 c9 c3 8d 76 00-55 89 e5 53 8b 5d 08 85 > ss:esp=cc 3f 09 00 e2 7e 00 00-ec 95 00 00 01 00 00 00 > > I suspect flaky hardware due to the fact that it wasn't > consistent, and I used a configuration almost identical to the other > similar boxes we have. Also the last batch of boxes from this vendor has > had some other problems. I'm having the night guys take the box down off > the rack and reseat everything to see if that helps. If anyone has any > suggestions (assuming the box is still borked tomorrow) or something for > me to test (like ddb, etc.) just let me know. No; at this point you might try things like swapping memory, CPU, motherboard etc. What you're seeing above is basically the loader's equivalent of a kernel trap. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 0: 7:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from allegro.lemis.com (allegro.lemis.com [192.109.197.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF40E14CEE for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:07:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@freebie.lemis.com) Received: from freebie.lemis.com (freebie.lemis.com [192.109.197.137]) by allegro.lemis.com (8.9.1/8.9.0) with ESMTP id QAA19445; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:37:14 +0930 (CST) Received: (from grog@localhost) by freebie.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.0) id QAA96182; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:37:14 +0930 (CST) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:37:14 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Greg Skafte Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Vinum Kernel panic Message-ID: <19990903163713.K95378@freebie.lemis.com> References: <19990902234148.A74752@valis.worldgate.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <19990902234148.A74752@valis.worldgate.ca>; from Greg Skafte on Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 11:41:48PM -0600 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-41-739-7062 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thursday, 2 September 1999 at 23:41:48 -0600, Greg Skafte wrote: > I just cvsuped Freebsd RELENG_3 this evening and vinum cause the following: > > Kernel Panic Fatal trap 12 page Fault while in kernel mode > Fault Virtual address= 0x10 > Fault Code = supervisor read, page not present > Instruction Pointer = 0x8:0xc128a8bb > Stack Pointer = 0x10: 0xcc1e5c40 > Frame Pointer = 0x10: 0xcc1e5c94 > Code Segment = base 0x0, limit 0xffff, type 0x1b > = DPL 0, pres 1, def 321, gran 1 > Processor eflags = int enabled, resume IOPL 0 > Current Process = 16 (vinum) > interupt mask = > trap number = 12 > Panic: page fault > > ----------------------Kerenel conf -------------------------- The kernel config file isn't interesting. > ----------- vinum config > # Vinum configuration of nemisis.worldgate.ca, saved at Thu Sep 2 23:26:02 1999 > drive usr1 device /dev/wd0f > drive home1 device /dev/wd0g > drive usr2 device /dev/wd2s2f > drive home2 device /dev/wd2s2g > volume usr > volume home > plex name usr.p0 org striped 512b vol usr > plex name home.p0 org concat vol home > plex name home.p1 org concat vol home > sd name usr.p0.s0 drive usr1 plex usr.p0 len 2095104b driveoffset 265b plexoffset 0b > sd name usr.p0.s1 drive usr2 plex usr.p0 len 2095104b driveoffset 265b plexoffset 512b > sd name home.p0.s0 drive home1 plex home.p0 len 3194880b driveoffset 265b plexoffset 0b > sd name home.p1.s0 drive home2 plex home.p1 len 3194880b driveoffset 265b plexoffset 0b That's not too unusual either. > I pulled > /* $Id: v.c,v 1.4.2.3 1999/05/05 05:11:14 grog Exp $ */ > and > /* $Id: vinum.c,v 1.7.2.3 1999/05/05 05:15:37 grog Exp $ > > etc from a back up and am having no issues. That may or may not be related. Is this reproducible? Under what circumstances? Are you using soft updates? We've seen one case that fits that bill, but it doesn't look quite like yours, and it hasn't shown up in -STABLE yet. To quote vinum(4): DEBUGGING PROBLEMS WITH VINUM Solving problems with vinum can be a difficult affair. This section sug- gests some approaches. ... Kernel Panics In order to analyse a panic which you suspect comes from vinum you will need to build a debug kernel. See the online handbook for more details of how to do this. Perform the following steps to analyse a vinum problem: 1. Copy the files /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/.gdbinit.crash, /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/.gdbinit.kernel, /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/.gdbinit.serial, /usr/src/sys/modules/vinum/.gdbinit.vinum and (etc) I'm not going to repeat the whole man page here. You have it on your system. In view of the impending release of 3.3, I'm very interested in following up on this one. But I'm going to need more information from you. Greg -- See complete headers for address, home page and phone numbers finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 0:47:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E82F14F9C; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:47:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dlow3@earthlink.net) Received: from earthlink.net (CBL-dlow3.hs.earthlink.net [209.178.107.75]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA08525; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:46:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <37CF7CF0.AD0B0A4F@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 00:46:57 -0700 From: Derrick X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-ipfw@freebsd.org Subject: Help with masquerading hybrid cable modem connection Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am having trouble masquerading my hybrid cable modem connection in FreeBSD. By hybrid, I mean it uses a normal analog ppp account to dial out for uploads (it's an Earthlink account, by the way) and a Com21 cable modem for the downloads. They haven't yet implemented the two-way on the cable connection yet. You dial ppp as normal and it gives you your ip automatically. It's not a normal account, it automatically uses your ethernet card for downloading somehow. In FreeBSD I can connect fine (I can't even get it working in Linux) but I am having trouble masquerading. Is it even possible to masquerade this kind of hybrid connection in FreeBSD? I have IPFIREWALL, IPDIVERT, and IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT in my kernel config. I've tried natd -n ed1 and natd -n tun0. I've tried dialing ppp with and without the -alias flag. I've tried: ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via ed1 I've tried: ipfw add divert natd all from any to any via tun0 And I've tried: ipfw add 100 divert natd ip from any to any out recv ed1 xmit tun0 None of these seems to work, what am I doing wrong? Please help! Any info would be helpful. Thanks in advance. Derrick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 0:49:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.hawaii.rr.com (smtp3.hawaii.rr.com [204.210.97.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 138361545C for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 00:49:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from art@hawaii.rr.com) Received: from taz - 24.31.76.79 by smtp3.hawaii.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1774.114.11); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 21:47:48 -1000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990902214707.007db100@clients1.hawaii.rr.com> X-Sender: art@clients1.hawaii.rr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 21:47:07 -1000 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: "Art Neilson, KH7PZ" Subject: cvsup Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm running FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE and want to track RELENG_3. I installed all of the sources when I installed the release. I set up a supfile *default host=cvsup2.freebsd.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=RELENG_3 *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress src-all src-crypto src-secure and it just fine with the command cvsup -g -L 2 supfile Now, looking at page 379 in "The Complete FreeBSD" 3rd Edition, there is a script underneath "Putting it all together". I took a portion of that script and made my own script. #!/bin/sh echo ====== `date`: Updating /usr/src echo cd /usr/src cd /usr/src cvs update -P -d echo ====== `date`: Rebuilding TAGS cd /usr/src/sys rm -f TAGS find . -follow -name "*.[csh]" | xargs etags -a echo ====== `date`: Rebuilding STABLE echo cd /usr/src cd /usr/src make world When I run this script, the cvs update bombs with messages about no CVSROOT environment variable set. I tried setting CVSROOT=/usr however that did not work it said /usr/CVSROOT wasn't a repository. Am I supposed to build a repository first, I thought when I installed FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE with all sources that was the repository. Do I need to build a repository or can I just 'make world' and skip the repository step since I am updating /usr/src directly and don't have a 'separate' tree??? The manual does not seem to make this distinction? I am confused, can someone elighten me please??? -- __ / ) _/_ It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. /--/ __ / Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, / (_/ (_<__ Instead of theories to suit facts. -- Sherlock Holmes, "A Scandal in Bohemia" Arthur W. Neilson III, KH7PZ Bank of Hawaii Tech Support art@hawaii.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 1:30:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDCDC151BA for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 01:30:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) id JAA22296; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:30:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from joe) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:30:30 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest -stable breakage. :-( Message-ID: <19990903093030.H88479@pavilion.net> References: <62181.936333277@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <62181.936333277@localhost>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 09:34:37PM -0700 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, 24 The Old Steine, Brighton, BN1 1EL, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 09:34:37PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > [Building an SMP kernel] > > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c: In function `smp_rendezvous_action': > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2687: warning: implicit declaration of function `atomic_add_int' > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c: In function `smp_rendezvous': > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2711: `smp_rv_lock' undeclared (first use this function) > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2711: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2711: for each function it appears in.) > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2723: `PSL_I' undeclared (first use this function) > machine/cpufunc.h:419: warning: inlining failed in call to `write_eflags' > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2723: warning: called from here > *** Error code 1 There's a patch: http://www.freebsd.org/~msmith/smp-stable.diff Can you test it and report back to stable@freebsd.org - I for one have had success with this. I imagine that it will be committed any day now, but please try and and let us know - the feedback would be useful. Thanks, Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 1:34: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E152914A2F for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 01:33:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) id JAA22449; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:31:28 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from joe) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 09:31:27 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest -stable breakage. :-( Message-ID: <19990903093127.I88479@pavilion.net> References: <62181.936333277@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <62181.936333277@localhost>; from Jordan K. Hubbard on Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 09:34:37PM -0700 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, 24 The Old Steine, Brighton, BN1 1EL, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Sep 02, 1999 at 09:34:37PM -0700, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > [Building an SMP kernel] > > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c: In function `smp_rendezvous_action': > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2687: warning: implicit declaration of function `atomic_add_int' > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c: In function `smp_rendezvous': > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2711: `smp_rv_lock' undeclared (first use this function) > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2711: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2711: for each function it appears in.) > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2723: `PSL_I' undeclared (first use this function) > machine/cpufunc.h:419: warning: inlining failed in call to `write_eflags' > ../../i386/i386/mp_machdep.c:2723: warning: called from here > *** Error code 1 > > Oops, sorry Jordan - I didn't read the From: header - sorry for the tone of my last message :) Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 1:54:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C050814CC5 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 01:54:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11Mp66-0009Bp-00; Fri, 03 Sep 1999 10:53:26 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: "Art Neilson, KH7PZ" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsup In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Sep 1999 21:47:07 -1000." <3.0.6.32.19990902214707.007db100@clients1.hawaii.rr.com> Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 10:53:26 +0200 Message-ID: <35328.936348806@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 21:47:07 -1000, "Art Neilson, KH7PZ" wrote: > cvsup -g -L 2 supfile That's because cvsup likes your supfile. :-) > cvs update -P -d You're trying to mix two different methods of tracking stable. CVS and CVSup aren't the same thing. Pick one and stick to that. The only reason you'd want to use CVS over CVSup is if you make a lot of local source hacks. Later, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 2: 7:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.hawaii.rr.com (smtp3.hawaii.rr.com [204.210.97.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EB1814DDD for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 02:07:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from art@hawaii.rr.com) Received: from taz - 24.31.76.79 by smtp3.hawaii.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1774.114.11); Thu, 2 Sep 1999 23:07:20 -1000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990902230639.008c14e0@clients1.hawaii.rr.com> X-Sender: art@clients1.hawaii.rr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 23:06:39 -1000 To: Sheldon Hearn From: "Art Neilson, KH7PZ" Subject: Re: cvsup Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <35328.936348806@axl.noc.iafrica.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for the speedy reply, Sheldon. Then it is as I suspected, they are different. I will use cvsup. So this evening I did a cd /usr/src then make buildworld. this ran for a couple hours then I did a make installworld. that ran for about a half hour. now i am rebuilding and rebooting the kernel. in the future, how do I just update my sources with cvsup changes and only recompile those sources affected? make world wipes out and rebuilds everything. do I make update or just make or what? At 10:53 AM 09/03/1999 +0200, you wrote: > > >On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 21:47:07 -1000, "Art Neilson, KH7PZ" wrote: > >> cvsup -g -L 2 supfile > >That's because cvsup likes your supfile. :-) > >> cvs update -P -d > >You're trying to mix two different methods of tracking stable. CVS and >CVSup aren't the same thing. Pick one and stick to that. The only reason >you'd want to use CVS over CVSup is if you make a lot of local source >hacks. > >Later, >Sheldon. > -- __ / ) _/_ It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. /--/ __ / Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, / (_/ (_<__ Instead of theories to suit facts. -- Sherlock Holmes, "A Scandal in Bohemia" Arthur W. Neilson III, KH7PZ Bank of Hawaii Tech Support art@hawaii.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 2:12:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5809614ECC for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 02:12:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11MpO6-0009GP-00; Fri, 03 Sep 1999 11:12:02 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: "Art Neilson, KH7PZ" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsup In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Sep 1999 23:06:39 -1000." <3.0.6.32.19990902230639.008c14e0@clients1.hawaii.rr.com> Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 11:12:02 +0200 Message-ID: <35612.936349922@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 23:06:39 -1000, "Art Neilson, KH7PZ" wrote: > in the future, how do I just update my sources with cvsup changes > and only recompile those sources affected? You either look at the output of cvsup -L 2 and update the affected bits by hand, or you ``make world'' if you're as lazy as the rest of us. There's no automated mechanism for only building updated bits. Some people may tell you to ``make -DNOCLEAN world''. These people are confused about what NOCLEAN is for and I urge you to find out exactly what the implications are before listening to them. > do I make update or just make or what? No. The update target is just a mechanism to allow you to update your source tree conveniently. It's not much more convenient than running cvsup, and you'll need to play with settings in your /etc/make.conf to make it work. Probably not worth worrying about. Hope this helps. :-) Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 2:19: 0 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mel.alcatel.fr (mel.alcatel.fr [212.208.74.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5651D15091 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 02:18:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr) Received: from aifhs2.alcatel.fr (mailhub.alcatel.fr [155.132.180.80]) by mel.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP) with ESMTP id KAA16906; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:12:09 +0200 Received: from lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (lune.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.144.65]) by aifhs2.alcatel.fr (ALCANET/SMTP2) with ESMTP id LAA04923; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:10:44 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from telss1 (telss1.telspace.alcatel.fr [155.132.51.4]) by lune.telspace.alcatel.fr (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA01466; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:53:27 +0200 (MEST) Received: from alcatel.fr by telss1 (8.8.8+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id LAA01868; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:04:33 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <37CF8EA8.73937D2D@alcatel.fr> Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 11:02:32 +0200 From: Thierry Herbelot Reply-To: thierry.herbelot@alcatel.fr Organization: ALCATEL CIT Nanterre X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: "Art Neilson, KH7PZ" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsup References: <35328.936348806@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 21:47:07 -1000, "Art Neilson, KH7PZ" wrote: > > > cvsup -g -L 2 supfile > > That's because cvsup likes your supfile. :-) > > > cvs update -P -d > > You're trying to mix two different methods of tracking stable. CVS and > CVSup aren't the same thing. Pick one and stick to that. The only reason > you'd want to use CVS over CVSup is if you make a lot of local source > hacks. Or you want to follow two branches with just one repository (I'm using one -Stable and one -Current machine, both upgraded from the same cvs repository). Or you want to create your own -Release TfH > > Later, > Sheldon. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 5:11: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from megaweapon.zigg.com (megaweapon.zigg.com [206.114.60.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3304F14C92 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 05:10:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by megaweapon.zigg.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA09182; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:08:27 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:08:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Behrens To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: "Art Neilson, KH7PZ" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsup In-Reply-To: <35612.936349922@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote: : You either look at the output of cvsup -L 2 and update the affected bits : by hand, or you ``make world'' if you're as lazy as the rest of us. : There's no automated mechanism for only building updated bits. : : Some people may tell you to ``make -DNOCLEAN world''. These people are : confused about what NOCLEAN is for and I urge you to find out exactly : what the implications are before listening to them. I have found that make depend && make && make install will work most of the time. Any reason why I shouldn't be using this...? Matt Behrens Owner/Administrator, zigg.com Chief Engineer, Nameless IRC Network To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 5:14:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from megaweapon.zigg.com (megaweapon.zigg.com [206.114.60.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3B6C14E16 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 05:14:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by megaweapon.zigg.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA09243 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:14:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:14:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Behrens To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Leftover processes using as much CPU as they can get Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have noticed in the past few weeks of tracking -STABLE that I regularly see processes not terminating properly. For example, I have a perl+curses-based menu system for several users on my system. Just about any day of the week I can come in to my normally idle system and see a few hanging perl5's in the run state all using as much CPU as the system will let them (this morning I saw four, all using about 22% CPU.) kill -9 will safely get rid of them. I don't have a lot of details yet; I was wondering if anyone else has seen this or if it's probably my poor old 486 just getting ready to die. If anyone else has seen this I will be happy to start investigating further. Matt Behrens Owner/Administrator, zigg.com Chief Engineer, Nameless IRC Network To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 5:14:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0100F15134 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 05:14:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 11MsDl-0009uo-00; Fri, 03 Sep 1999 14:13:33 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Matt Behrens Cc: "Art Neilson, KH7PZ" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsup In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 03 Sep 1999 08:08:27 -0400." Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 14:13:33 +0200 Message-ID: <38117.936360813@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 08:08:27 -0400, Matt Behrens wrote: > I have found that > > make depend && make && make install > > will work most of the time. Any reason why I shouldn't be using > this...? Sounds like you're talking about your kernel. We've been talking about world. :-) Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 5:16:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from megaweapon.zigg.com (megaweapon.zigg.com [206.114.60.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D65B014FAA for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 05:16:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by megaweapon.zigg.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA09248; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:14:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:14:44 -0400 (EDT) From: Matt Behrens To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: "Art Neilson, KH7PZ" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsup In-Reply-To: <38117.936360813@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote: : On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 08:08:27 -0400, Matt Behrens wrote: : : > I have found that : > : > make depend && make && make install : > : > will work most of the time. Any reason why I shouldn't be using : > this...? : : Sounds like you're talking about your kernel. We've been talking about : world. :-) # cd /usr/src # make depend && make && make install Nope, it works for world too :-) Matt Behrens Owner/Administrator, zigg.com Chief Engineer, Nameless IRC Network To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 6: 7:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D0F715039 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 06:07:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cy@cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id GAA11997; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 06:05:16 -0700 Received: from cschuber.net.gov.bc.ca(142.31.240.113), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda11991; Fri Sep 3 06:05:04 1999 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id WAA01361; Thu, 2 Sep 1999 22:32:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199909030532.WAA01361@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdDA1356; Thu Sep 2 22:32:34 1999 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-OS: FreeBSD 3.2-RELEASE X-Sender: cy To: mwlucas@exceptionet.com Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: suggestion: distfiles CD In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 02 Sep 1999 12:40:25 EDT." <199909021640.MAA13839@easeway.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 02 Sep 1999 22:32:33 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <199909021640.MAA13839@easeway.com>, mwlucas@exceptionet.com writes: > Hello, > > Just an idea I wanted to run by people: I'm not sure if anyone would be > interested, and it might make the project some dough. (Alternately, I > might be the only poor bastard in this position, but it can't hurt to > ask.) > > As FreeBSD seems to be doing three releases a year, I find that the > distfiles and packages on my machine are increasingly out of date. In my > case, fetching distfiles and packages at work is difficult. > > I cvsup at home, and upgrade my ports tree accordingly. > > But for the last month, my distfiles CD has been completely useless. > Every distfile I've wanted, I've had to download. If the mid-September > date for the release of 3.3 is accurate, that means I have at least > another month, probobly six weeks, until I get an updated CD. > > If FreeBSD is coming out only every four months, might people be > interested in a "distfiles/packages" CD set on the alternate four months? > The work would be minimal, compared to a regular snapshot. I, at least, > would pay for it. Hell, I'd subscribe. > > Of course, I'm sure everyone else has a real Internet connection, and > doesn't have to worry about this. Take a look at freebsdmall.com. The FreeBSD Toolkit is what you want. Even better, it also comes as a subscription. What I do when I receive a CDROM from Walnut Creek is to create a subdirectories in a directory called /FreeBSD containing directory trees of symlinks, created using lndir, that point to files on the CDROMs. Then when I need to build a package, make will fail complaining about a broken symlink. I then ls -l the distfile in question to find which CDROM the file is on. (Any distfiles fetched after a CDROM is released are stored on a Zip disk.) For example, following are the copies of xlockmore distfiles that I have pointers to. (Note that xlockmore-4.14 is stored on a Zip disk.) cwsys$ ll /usr/ports/distfiles/xlockmore-4.1* lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 44 Jun 27 08:36 /usr/ports/distfiles/xlockmor e-4.11.tar.gz -> /FreeBSD/2.2.7-cdrom-3/xlockmore-4.11.tar.gz lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 41 Jun 27 08:31 /usr/ports/distfiles/xlockmor e-4.12.tar.gz -> /FreeBSD/TK-cdrom-5/xlockmore-4.12.tar.gz lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 44 Jun 27 08:29 /usr/ports/distfiles/xlockmor e-4.13.1.tar.gz -> /FreeBSD/3.2-cdrom-4/xlockmore-4.13.1.tar.gz lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 64 Jun 27 08:39 /usr/ports/distfiles/xlockmor e-4.14.tar.gz -> /opt/archives-6/distfiles-post-3.2.0-extra/xlockmore-4. 14.tar.gz cwsys$ Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Open Systems Group Internet: Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca ITSD Cy.Schubert@gems8.gov.bc.ca Province of BC "e**(i*pi)+1=0" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 6:22:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from florence.pavilion.net (florence.pavilion.net [194.242.128.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D94A514C12 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 06:22:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joe@florence.pavilion.net) Received: (from joe@localhost) by florence.pavilion.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) id OAA74395; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:19:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from joe) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:19:27 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: Matt Behrens Cc: Sheldon Hearn , "Art Neilson, KH7PZ" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsup Message-ID: <19990903141927.R88479@pavilion.net> References: <38117.936360813@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Matt Behrens on Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 08:14:44AM -0400 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, 24 The Old Steine, Brighton, BN1 1EL, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 08:14:44AM -0400, Matt Behrens wrote: > On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > : On Fri, 03 Sep 1999 08:08:27 -0400, Matt Behrens wrote: > : > : > I have found that > : > > : > make depend && make && make install > : > > : > will work most of the time. Any reason why I shouldn't be using > : > this...? > : > : Sounds like you're talking about your kernel. We've been talking about > : world. :-) > > # cd /usr/src > # make depend && make && make install > > Nope, it works for world too :-) Yep, but you also need a 'make hierarchy' and 'make obj' and other glues - so Make world is easiest. Joe -- Josef Karthauser FreeBSD: How many times have you booted today? Technical Manager Viagra for your server (http://www.uk.freebsd.org) Pavilion Internet plc. [joe@pavilion.net, joe@uk.freebsd.org, joe@tao.org.uk] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 8:13:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8103F14FD5; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 08:13:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from arnout@tomcat.xs4all.nl) Received: from tomcat.xs4all.nl (tomcat.xs4all.nl [194.109.15.187]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA06397; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:13:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from arnout@localhost) by tomcat.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA10998; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:16:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:16:27 +0200 From: Arnout Boer To: freebsd-emulation@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: SO 5.1 and SMP under stable!? Message-ID: <19990903171627.B10976@tomcat.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RC i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I like to play with an office Suite under FreeBSD but SO doens't work onder an SMP stable kernel... StarOffice is ok.. It does crash frequently while playing with 'new things' but I like it.... A Free Office package on BSD is a plus! But can anybody tell me why it doesn't work ok a SMP kernel... I would like to play with it on my dual P200 instead of only one proc... Is there any change SMP changes will be ported to stable that make this work... Probably threags stuff.... I Think it's about problems with PosixThread vs SMP!? Btw.. I'm running STABLE 3.3 RC Single proc now because of SO :-( Greetz, Arnout p.s. If patches will be ported to stable I'll love to test them! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 10:28: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt010nb9.san.rr.com (dt010nb9.san.rr.com [204.210.12.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3398B14CB8 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:27:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by dt010nb9.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA58585; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:26:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:26:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug X-Sender: doug@dt010nb9.san.rr.com To: Matt Behrens Cc: Sheldon Hearn , "Art Neilson, KH7PZ" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsup In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Matt Behrens wrote: > On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > : You either look at the output of cvsup -L 2 and update the affected bits > : by hand, or you ``make world'' if you're as lazy as the rest of us. > : There's no automated mechanism for only building updated bits. > : > : Some people may tell you to ``make -DNOCLEAN world''. These people are > : confused about what NOCLEAN is for and I urge you to find out exactly > : what the implications are before listening to them. > > I have found that > > make depend && make && make install > > will work most of the time. Any reason why I shouldn't be using > this...? Yes, there are at least two. First, it doesn't give you any benefit. Second, it will not only fail some of the time, but it will also result in false positive successes. Doug -- "My mama told me, my mama said, 'don't cry.' She said, 'you're too young a man to have as many women you got.' I looked at my mother dear and didn't even crack a smile. I said, 'If women kill me, I don't mind dyin!'" - John Belushi as "Joliet" Jake Blues, "I Don't Know" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 10:34: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.phone.net (guru.phone.net [209.157.82.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 099C115230 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:34:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mwm@phone.net) Received: (qmail 768 invoked by uid 100); 3 Sep 1999 17:32:04 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Sep 1999 17:32:04 -0000 Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:32:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Meyer To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvsup In-Reply-To: <35612.936349922@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Sheldon Hearn wrote: :->On Thu, 02 Sep 1999 23:06:39 -1000, "Art Neilson, KH7PZ" wrote: :->> in the future, how do I just update my sources with cvsup changes :->> and only recompile those sources affected? :->You either look at the output of cvsup -L 2 and update the affected bits :->by hand, or you ``make world'' if you're as lazy as the rest of us. :->There's no automated mechanism for only building updated bits. The easy way to "update of the affected bits by hand" is to just do a "make" - but you have to know what you're doing! The point of doing the "world" makes is that you get the correct set of includes & libraries. Those are the only build mechanisms that are supported. I've found that deleting the /usr/obj tree before doing a buildworld makes it run faster. Buildworld walks that full tree twice - once to change flags, and once to delete it. Doing the full tree once and the things that don't delete because the flags are wrong twice is faster. :->> do I make update or just make or what? :-> :->No. The update target is just a mechanism to allow you to update your :->source tree conveniently. It's not much more convenient than running :->cvsup, and you'll need to play with settings in your /etc/make.conf to :->make it work. Probably not worth worrying about. Make update can be set up to get both the soures and the ports collection. As such, I think that's worth doing. ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:35:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by dt010nb9.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA58665; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:34:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:34:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug X-Sender: doug@dt010nb9.san.rr.com To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Urgent(?) today's 3.3-RC crashes on boot In-Reply-To: <199909030643.AAA20099@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > In message Doug writes: > : I say (?) because I strongly suspect that this is flaky > : hardware, however after spending the afternoon installing freebsd > : 3.2-Stable from 9/24, then upgrading via cvsup to the most recent 3.3-RC > > I found that a 19990818 snapshot would cause almost identical dumps > like the following on a regular basis. > > : Boxes are Rack-mounts, Intel N440BX mb's with onboard Intel > : etherexpress. This one has 128M of ram, 450 Mhz PII and a 16G IDE HD. > > I was seeing this on a mini 486DX2 that I bought to turn into a router > and a dumpster (machine with tape drive and little else to do network > backups). I just love having a consensus. One vote for "Yes, it's hardware" and one for "Maybe it's software." *chuckle* The night guys took the box down and reseated everything, still no joy. One detail I forgot to mention last night was that I left the pseudo-device splash line out of the kernel config file since TMK that bug was fixed. Doug -- "My mama told me, my mama said, 'don't cry.' She said, 'you're too young a man to have as many women you got.' I looked at my mother dear and didn't even crack a smile. I said, 'If women kill me, I don't mind dyin!'" - John Belushi as "Joliet" Jake Blues, "I Don't Know" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 10:35:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62ECC15EE2 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:35:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA45944; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:33:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:33:23 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: John Reynolds~ Cc: Jamie Norwood , Colin Eric Johnson , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: suggestion: distfiles CD Message-ID: <19990903103323.B45808@relay.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <199909022329.QAA02064@dingo.cdrom.com> <19990902164809.A57535@mushhaven.net> <14287.3626.443281.90733@hip186.ch.intel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i In-Reply-To: <14287.3626.443281.90733@hip186.ch.intel.com> X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I believe the original gentleman's suggestion for this burning of a "changed > distfiles CD" was geared towards 1 person within an active FreeBSD user's > group Then why can't someone within the users's group cd /usr/ports && make fetch and burn a CDROM?? Not everything related to FreeBSD needs to come straight from Walnut Creek. Many people have better net access than WC's office. Making and offering said CDROM sounds like an exclent user's group activity, esp., since a UG's charter is to foster help w/in the group. BTW, it now takes 3 full CDROM's to hold all the distfiles. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 10:36:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F1AB156C3 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:36:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA45978; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:36:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:36:34 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Matt Behrens Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvsup Message-ID: <19990903103634.C45808@relay.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <35612.936349922@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have found that > > make depend && make && make install > > will work most of the time. Any reason why I shouldn't be using > this...? It would screw you if this was your procedure in -CURRENT. ``make world'' handles bootstraping issues (when interfaces change) that the above doesn't. ``make world'' 1st builds a minimal set of bootstrap utils (statically at that), and then uses those (which will support any new interfaces) to build the complete sources. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 10:53: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.vcnet.com (mail.vcnet.com [209.239.239.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E47B14C9B for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:53:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jpr@vcnet.com) Received: from [209.239.239.22] by mail.vcnet.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO203-101c) ID# 0-39954U2500L250S0) with ESMTP id AAA2092 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:50:58 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19990903093030.H88479@pavilion.net> References: <62181.936333277@localhost> <19990903093030.H88479@pavilion.net> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:51:02 -0700 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Jon Rust Subject: Re: Latest -stable breakage. :-( Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG http://www.freebsd.org/~msmith/smp-stable.diff FWIW, this patch cured my SMP building issues (cvsup'ed yesterday about 10am PDT, then applied the patch). Everything seems to be running fine. Jon _____________________________________________________ |Jon Rust | VCNet, Inc |(805) 383-3500| |jpr@vcnet.com | | www.vcnet.com| |---------------------------------------------------| | "So I got that goin' for me, which is nice." -CS | |___________________________________________________| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 10:56:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from spork.cs.unm.edu (mail.cs.unm.edu [198.59.151.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F6D614BD3 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 10:56:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from colinj@cs.unm.edu) Received: from nobby.cs.unm.edu ([198.59.151.103] ident=mail) by spork.cs.unm.edu with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 11MxZB-000489-00; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:56:01 -0600 Received: from colinj by nobby.cs.unm.edu with local-esmtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 11MxZA-00018W-00; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:56:00 -0600 Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:56:00 -0600 (MDT) From: Colin Eric Johnson To: obrien@NUXI.com Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: suggestion: distfiles CD In-Reply-To: <19990903103323.B45808@relay.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, David O'Brien wrote: > > I believe the original gentleman's suggestion for this burning of a "changed > > distfiles CD" was geared towards 1 person within an active FreeBSD user's > > group > > Then why can't someone within the users's group > > cd /usr/ports && make fetch > > and burn a CDROM?? Not everything related to FreeBSD needs to come > straight from Walnut Creek. Many people have better net access than WC's > office. Making and offering said CDROM sounds like an exclent user's > group activity, esp., since a UG's charter is to foster help w/in the > group. > > BTW, it now takes 3 full CDROM's to hold all the distfiles. That sounds like a great idea. I did not know that I could do a ``make fetch''. I'm assuming that this just downloads all of the necessary files into /usr/ports/distfiles but doesn't actually do the build. Colin E. Johnson | colinj@unm.edu | http://www.unm.edu/~colinj/ "As Jun [Murai] explains it, `I can go to the bar and drink beer. I go to a phone and ping my routers, and if they are still working, I go back and drink more beer.'" Carl Malamud _Exploring_the_Internet_ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 11: 0:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84B3414BE7 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:00:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA46240; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:00:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:00:41 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Colin Eric Johnson Cc: obrien@nuxi.com, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: suggestion: distfiles CD Message-ID: <19990903110041.B46102@relay.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@NUXI.com References: <19990903103323.B45808@relay.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre1i In-Reply-To: X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.2-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > That sounds like a great idea. I did not know that I could do a ``make > fetch''. I'm assuming that this just downloads all of the necessary files > into /usr/ports/distfiles but doesn't actually do the build. Yes. I also follow that up with ``make checksum'' to double check things. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 11:52:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from defiant.quansoo.com (defiant.quansoo.com [63.66.225.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34D5915787; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:52:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cgriffiths@quansoo.com) Received: from localhost (cgriffiths@localhost) by defiant.quansoo.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02532; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:52:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from cgriffiths@quansoo.com) X-Authentication-Warning: defiant.quansoo.com: cgriffiths owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:52:18 -0400 (EDT) From: "Christopher T. Griffiths" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Sun StarOffice51 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anyone had any luck getting Sun release of StarOffice to work?? I am running freebsd 3.2 stable. I have the new emulation ports for linux installed and have done the different suggested installs with no luck. I am still getting the setup screen whenever I launch soffice. I also made sure that I created the .sversion file with the following info: [Versions] StarOffice 5.1=/home/cgriffiths/Office51 also, I did notice that the versions of the libs had changed from 6 to 7. If anyone could give me some help getting this working that would be great. Chris Christopher T. Griffiths Senior Network/Systems Administrator Quansoo Group Inc. cgriffiths@quansoo.com Phone: (302) 777-4141 Fax: (302) 777-4142 Mobile: (302) 521-3436 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 11:55:11 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vaview5.vavu.vt.edu (vaview5.vavu.vt.edu [198.82.158.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22A09157C8 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 11:55:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dglynn@vaview5.vavu.vt.edu) Received: from vaview5.vavu.vt.edu (vaview5.vavu.vt.edu [198.82.158.16]) by vaview5.vavu.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id OAA06001 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:55:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dglynn@vaview5.vavu.vt.edu) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:55:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Greg Lynn To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ASUS p2b-ds In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I know that question has been around before but I was thinking about getting a asus p2b-ds with ecc memory and 2 pii 350mhz cpus and I was wondering how kernel 3.2 does with smp? Is there tweaks you can perform to the kernel? Also, is the adaptec-7890 chipset on this board supported well with CAM in the 3.2 kernel? -Greg To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 12: 5:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (finland.ispro.net.tr [195.174.18.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B011509D for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:05:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from ispro.net.tr (dyn-4-046.tku.netti.fi [195.16.219.47]) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA36905 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 22:03:32 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Message-ID: <37D01BA7.F9419E2C@ispro.net.tr> Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 22:04:08 +0300 From: Evren Yurtesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: finger changed? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have recently cvsupped 3.2-STABLE and after the make world the finger command was working differently... When I search for somebody it was not looking at the real name field only the username field just like if I was using -m option but the searches are made case insensitive... What is the problem? I have copied the finger binary from 3.2-RELEASE and it was working just fine... for example in the old one when I search something like finger daemon then I was getting 2 entries, now when I search for the same thing I get only 1 result which was the username daemon Evren To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 12: 8:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from finland.ispro.net.tr (finland.ispro.net.tr [195.174.18.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E9A3151F9; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:08:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Received: from ispro.net.tr (dyn-4-046.tku.netti.fi [195.16.219.47]) by finland.ispro.net.tr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA39409; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 22:07:43 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from yurtesen@ispro.net.tr) Message-ID: <37D01CA5.E5949A33@ispro.net.tr> Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 22:08:21 +0300 From: Evren Yurtesen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Christopher T. Griffiths" Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sun StarOffice51 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think you should install an old library... see this page http://minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au/Misc/staroffice.html "Christopher T. Griffiths" wrote: > Has anyone had any luck getting Sun release of StarOffice to work?? > > I am running freebsd 3.2 stable. > > I have the new emulation ports for linux installed and have done the > different suggested installs with no luck. > > I am still getting the setup screen whenever I launch soffice. > > I also made sure that I created the .sversion file with the following > info: > > [Versions] > StarOffice 5.1=/home/cgriffiths/Office51 > > also, I did notice that the versions of the libs had changed from 6 to 7. > > If anyone could give me some help getting this working that would be > great. > > Chris > > Christopher T. Griffiths > Senior Network/Systems Administrator > Quansoo Group Inc. > cgriffiths@quansoo.com > Phone: (302) 777-4141 > Fax: (302) 777-4142 > Mobile: (302) 521-3436 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 12:13:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BFFD15EB8 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:13:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA00607; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:07:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199909031907.MAA00607@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Jon Rust Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Latest -stable breakage. :-( In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 03 Sep 1999 10:51:02 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 12:07:03 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG These have been committed now, thanks for all the responses. > http://www.freebsd.org/~msmith/smp-stable.diff > > FWIW, this patch cured my SMP building issues (cvsup'ed yesterday > about 10am PDT, then applied the patch). Everything seems to be > running fine. > > Jon > > _____________________________________________________ > |Jon Rust | VCNet, Inc |(805) 383-3500| > |jpr@vcnet.com | | www.vcnet.com| > |---------------------------------------------------| > | "So I got that goin' for me, which is nice." -CS | > |___________________________________________________| > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 12:19:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from assurance.rstcorp.com (assurance.rstcorp.com [216.112.242.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D099914EFA for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 12:19:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vshah@rstcorp.com) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by assurance.rstcorp.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id PAA29448 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:16:45 -0400 Received: from proxy.rstcorp.com(216.112.242.5) by assurance.rstcorp.com via smap (V2.0) id xma029438; Fri, 3 Sep 99 19:16:12 GMT Received: from jabberwock.rstcorp.com (jabberwock.rstcorp.com [192.168.2.98]) by sandbox.rstcorp.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA11402 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:15:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from vshah@localhost) by jabberwock.rstcorp.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA45688; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:16:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from vshah@rstcorp.com) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14288.7794.1975.690537@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:16:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "Viren R. Shah" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: rpc.statd -- memory hog? X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: "Viren R. Shah" X-Face: )~y+U*K:yzjz{q<5lzpI_SVef'U.])9g[C9`1N@]u3,MHY7f*l7C)[_NjM4y4K8$uIUh|\u (K&&HS6,M!61&GMTk'mqmB/Qg]]X}"?TzsFl]"2v!bl8']dma.:^IY^a[lbOI>U:b<~FyK3q-p{HmZ mn~g.`~BE!5{2D:}Yi+\_KkWe?XaHj9$ko1k8iKLYv5*_2c8"G=?Up[}hn+7RNM(bzBZ_wWk6!Pf&B ?3Tcm7M7B~W%K/I0aX3]*=jP?aM]H6HBPT`oLk+0n^_;N\2\%|Rhy;p}34Q.jEsM\qtnxcm;ag%Nq Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG We are running an NFS server (3.2-STABLE from July 29). It only allows v2/UDP connections. I just looked at the ps output for rpc.statd and saw: USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND root 156 0.0 0.2 262968 256 ?? Is Mon05PM 0:00.21 rpc.statd The box has only been up for: 3:13PM up 3 days, 22:01, 9 users, load averages: 0.08, 0.15, 0.07 [It also serves only about a dozen clients] Is there a reason why it should be taking up that much memory (even though it's all virtual memory, and it's residential size is only 256) Thanks Viren -- Viren R. Shah, viren@rstcorp.com, http://www.rstcorp.com/~vshah `Twas brillig, and the slithy toves did gyre and gimble in the wabe; All mimsy were the borogoves, and the mome raths outgrabe.' -- Lewis Carroll (Jabberwocky) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 13:23:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kot.ne.mediaone.net (kot.ne.mediaone.net [24.218.15.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B6415740 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:23:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mi@aldan.algebra.com) Received: from guest.newton (guest.newton [10.10.0.3]) by kot.ne.mediaone.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA66990 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:21:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Mikhail Teterin X-Relay-IP: 10.10.0.3 Received: (from mi@localhost) by guest.newton (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA83458 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:21:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <199909032021.QAA83458@guest.newton> Subject: cvs commit: vi says resource temporary anavailable To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:21:45 -0400 (EDT) X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7w hJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli"; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:28:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com) Received: from sedona.intel.com (sedona.ch.intel.com [143.182.218.21]) by pan.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a+p1/8.9.1/d: relay.m4,v 1.6 1998/11/24 22:10:56 iwep Exp iwep $) with ESMTP id NAA22959; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:27:11 -0700 (MST) Received: from hip186.ch.intel.com (hip186.ch.intel.com [143.182.225.68]) by sedona.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: sendmail.cf,v 1.8 1999/04/16 15:25:49 steved Exp steved $) with ESMTP id NAA25779; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:27:11 -0700 (MST) X-Envelope-From: jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com Received: (from jreynold@localhost) by hip186.ch.intel.com (8.9.1a/8.9.1/d: client.m4,v 1.3 1998/09/29 16:36:11 sedayao Exp sedayao $) id QAA10181; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:27:12 -0400 (EDT) From: John Reynolds~ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14288.12063.358491.586274@hip186.ch.intel.com> Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:27:11 -0700 (MST) To: Greg Lynn Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ASUS p2b-ds In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ On Friday, September 3, Greg Lynn wrote: ] > > I know that question has been around before but > I was thinking about getting a asus p2b-ds with > ecc memory and 2 pii 350mhz cpus and I was > wondering how kernel 3.2 does with smp? Is there I cannot speak of ECC memory or of SMP (yet!!!) but I own a P2B-DS and it works wonderfully with 3.2-STABLE. I highly recommend it. Make sure to download BIOS 1009 and FLASH that sucker first before installing (if you are installing from before 3.2-RELEASE code ... dunno how you planned on installing). > tweaks you can perform to the kernel? Also, is the not that I know of. > adaptec-7890 chipset on this board supported well > with CAM in the 3.2 kernel? Quite well supported. I had some probe lockups early in 3.0 and 3.1 when I first got the board but since there have been fixes and more importantly fixes in the Adaptec BIOS (contained in the MB bios 1009) I've had zero problems. -Jr -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= | John Reynolds CEG, CCE, Next Generation Flows, HLA | | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 868-6512 | | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 13:32:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005BF14CFD for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:32:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA29680; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:32:20 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-211.tnt1.rac.cyberlynk.net(209.224.182.211) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma029678; Fri Sep 3 15:32:02 1999 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990903153139.01414100@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 15:31:39 -0500 To: Mike Meyer , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: cvsup In-Reply-To: References: <35612.936349922@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:32 AM 9/3/99 -0700, Mike Meyer wrote: >The easy way to "update of the affected bits by hand" is to just do a >"make" - but you have to know what you're doing! The point of doing >the "world" makes is that you get the correct set of includes & >libraries. Those are the only build mechanisms that are supported. Yep. Mentioned in Nik Clayton's tutorial, for those that haven't read it... http://www.nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk/FreeBSD/make-world/make-world.html >I've found that deleting the /usr/obj tree before doing a buildworld >makes it run faster. Buildworld walks that full tree twice - once to >change flags, and once to delete it. Doing the full tree once and the >things that don't delete because the flags are wrong twice is faster. It's cleared here as well, but I add a -DNOCLEAN otherwise it will try to clean a nonexistant tree. Instead it get's right down to business. AFAIK, the flag is no problem *if* you remove the files under /usr/obj and have only used twice otherwise to avoid restarting a partially completed buildworld. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve '86 Yamaha MaxiumX (not FBSD powered) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 13:33:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vaview5.vavu.vt.edu (vaview5.vavu.vt.edu [198.82.158.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB035156E9 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:33:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dglynn@vaview5.vavu.vt.edu) Received: from vaview5.vavu.vt.edu (vaview5.vavu.vt.edu [198.82.158.16]) by vaview5.vavu.vt.edu (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id QAA06218; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:31:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from dglynn@vaview5.vavu.vt.edu) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:31:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Greg Lynn To: John Reynolds~ Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ASUS p2b-ds In-Reply-To: <14288.12063.358491.586274@hip186.ch.intel.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, John Reynolds~ wrote: Could I possibly see your kernel config? Did you set up the total ints and all that for the motherboard? > > [ On Friday, September 3, Greg Lynn wrote: ] > > > > I know that question has been around before but > > I was thinking about getting a asus p2b-ds with > > ecc memory and 2 pii 350mhz cpus and I was > > wondering how kernel 3.2 does with smp? Is there > > I cannot speak of ECC memory or of SMP (yet!!!) but I own a P2B-DS and it > works wonderfully with 3.2-STABLE. I highly recommend it. Make sure to > download BIOS 1009 and FLASH that sucker first before installing (if you > are installing from before 3.2-RELEASE code ... dunno how you planned on > installing). > > > tweaks you can perform to the kernel? Also, is the > > not that I know of. > > > adaptec-7890 chipset on this board supported well > > with CAM in the 3.2 kernel? > > Quite well supported. I had some probe lockups early in 3.0 and 3.1 when > I first got the board but since there have been fixes and more importantly > fixes in the Adaptec BIOS (contained in the MB bios 1009) I've had zero > problems. > > -Jr > > -- > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > | John Reynolds CEG, CCE, Next Generation Flows, HLA | > | Intel Corporation MS: CH6-210 Phone: 480-554-9092 pgr: 868-6512 | > | jreynold@sedona.ch.intel.com http://www-aec.ch.intel.com/~jreynold/ | > =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > ------------------------------------------- Greg Lynn Systems Admin / Web Programmer Virginia VIEW 205 West Roanoke (540) 231-7571 URL: vaview.vavu.vt.edu WORK EMAIL: dglynn@vaview5.vavu.vt.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 13:51: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7796C156E9 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:51:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA29868 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 15:50:56 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff@mountin.net) Received: from dial-211.tnt1.rac.cyberlynk.net(209.224.182.211) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma029860; Fri Sep 3 15:50:38 1999 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990903155015.0142d100@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeffm@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 15:50:15 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: buildword curiousities Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello all, Having been following the build failures one thing that has happened on 2 occasions now, the last just recent in the past 2 days, is buildworld failing when it reaches strip either creating the directory or compiling. The prior is really bizarre. No matter since my main point is that in both cases deleting section of the source tree and re-cvsup'ing did not help. Gave up and blew away the entire source tree, reinstalled the source from 3.2R, and cvsup'd again. The first time there were no problem cvsup'ing. Recently there have been problems with cvsup6 hanging at times and needing to ^C and reconnect. During the day it can be slow, but even when it's saturating a 128K ISDN connection it will hang at times, especially if there are a lot of changes (oddly enough last night it sent everything to bring 3.2R source up to -stable). Stops dead and never finishes, even hours later. It may due to passive mode, but one has to wonder if the ^C leads to some corruption. Cleaning out the last files listed does not help and in most cases are not near the failure point. Mind you on both occasions *many* tries were made and the first had multiple failure points, but cvsup completed each time. Oddly, one time I found a badly mangled file that had not changed for over 6 months and was never touched by cvsup or moved, barring a hardware change. Pardon the nebulosity, but this is not really a problem (at this time), so I'm leaving out system details et all (ducks). More curious if others have had to blow away the source tree and start over. And if others have had problems with cvsup6 stalling on them. Been doing -stable buildworlds at least once a week for about a year with very few problems. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve '86 Yamaha MaxiumX (not FBSD powered) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 13:55:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt010nb9.san.rr.com (dt010nb9.san.rr.com [204.210.12.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F0F214E7C for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:55:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by dt010nb9.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id NAA61151; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:53:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:53:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug X-Sender: doug@dt010nb9.san.rr.com To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Warner Losh Subject: Re: Urgent! splash screen bug lives (Was: today's 3.3-RC crashes on boot) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Unfortunately I think I can state conclusively now that it's the splash screen bug, and not flaky hardware doing the damage here. I followed exactly the same steps I did yesterday doing an install on a box with similar hardware (PIII 550 instead of a PIII 450), but this time I rebooted between each step. As soon as I compiled a custom kernel without the pseudo-device splash it started crashing on boot. When I put that pseudo-device back in it was all good. Next I put yesterday's box back up on the rack, recompiled the kernel with the splash, and now it's working perfectly. Anyone wanting to test this should try recompiling their kernel without that option and rebooting numerous times (at least 20). Unfortunately it's still not reproducable every time, but I'm very confident that the problem is related to that option. HTH, Doug On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Doug wrote: > On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > > > In message Doug writes: > > : I say (?) because I strongly suspect that this is flaky > > : hardware, however after spending the afternoon installing freebsd > > : 3.2-Stable from 9/24, then upgrading via cvsup to the most recent 3.3-RC > > > > I found that a 19990818 snapshot would cause almost identical dumps > > like the following on a regular basis. > > > > : Boxes are Rack-mounts, Intel N440BX mb's with onboard Intel > > : etherexpress. This one has 128M of ram, 450 Mhz PII and a 16G IDE HD. > > > > I was seeing this on a mini 486DX2 that I bought to turn into a router > > and a dumpster (machine with tape drive and little else to do network > > backups). > > I just love having a consensus. One vote for "Yes, it's hardware" > and one for "Maybe it's software." *chuckle* The night guys took the box > down and reseated everything, still no joy. One detail I forgot to mention > last night was that I left the pseudo-device splash line out of the > kernel config file since TMK that bug was fixed. > > Doug > -- "My mama told me, my mama said, 'don't cry.' She said, 'you're too young a man to have as many women you got.' I looked at my mother dear and didn't even crack a smile. I said, 'If women kill me, I don't mind dyin!'" - John Belushi as "Joliet" Jake Blues, "I Don't Know" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 13:56:53 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC95D1580F for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:55:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@wintelcom.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02138; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 07:12:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bright@wintelcom.net) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:12:58 +0000 (GMT) From: Alfred Perlstein To: "Viren R. Shah" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rpc.statd -- memory hog? In-Reply-To: <14288.7794.1975.690537@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Viren R. Shah wrote: > > We are running an NFS server (3.2-STABLE from July 29). It only allows > v2/UDP connections. > > I just looked at the ps output for rpc.statd and saw: > > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND > root 156 0.0 0.2 262968 256 ?? Is Mon05PM 0:00.21 rpc.statd > > The box has only been up for: > > 3:13PM up 3 days, 22:01, 9 users, load averages: 0.08, 0.15, 0.07 > > [It also serves only about a dozen clients] > > > Is there a reason why it should be taking up that much memory (even > though it's all virtual memory, and it's residential size is only 256) UTSL, or do a search on www.faqs.org, one of the Sun/sunos/solaris FAQs explains it afaik. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 13:58:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5765156E9 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 13:58:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22886; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:57:31 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id OAA47297; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:57:42 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <199909032057.OAA47297@harmony.village.org> To: Doug Subject: Re: Urgent! splash screen bug lives (Was: today's 3.3-RC crashes on boot) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 03 Sep 1999 13:53:05 PDT." References: Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 14:57:42 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Doug writes: : Anyone wanting to test this should try recompiling their kernel : without that option and rebooting numerous times (at least 20). : Unfortunately it's still not reproducable every time, but I'm very : confident that the problem is related to that option. Come to think of it, I might have tried to install a screen saver as well from the sysintsall (or at least configure that option). However, the reboot problem I had seen was 100% reproducible and was due to bad hardware. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 14:26:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.webct.com (mail.webct.com [209.87.17.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C380151C4 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:26:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from varju@ws15.webct.com) Received: from ws15.webct.com (ws15.webct.com [209.87.17.45]) by mail.webct.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA24810; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:24:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from varju@localhost) by ws15.webct.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) id OAA58460; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:24:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from varju) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:24:42 -0700 (PDT) From: Alex Varju To: "Viren R. Shah" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: rpc.statd -- memory hog? In-Reply-To: <14288.7794.1975.690537@jabberwock.rstcorp.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I actually have noticed this exact same problem on some of our machines. I found a reference to it in the freebsd-questions archive: ttp://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=1683401+0+/usr/local/www/db/text/1999/freebsd-questions/19990221.freebsd-questions > Date: Thu, 25 Feb 1999 12:10:31 -0600 > From: Dan Nelson > > In the last episode (Feb 25), Mike Knoll said: > > I have rpc.statd running on a 3.1-RELEASE machine, and it shows a > > virtual size of 263megs. Is something wrong in my configuration? > > Everything works fine, but this is an insane amount of memory to be > > resonable. > > > > My 2.2.8-RELEASE machine does not do this. > > > > ps -axl > > 0 7316 1 0 2 0 262968 552 select Is ?? 0:00.00 rpc.statd > > I think I remember reading about this a while back, and the culprit is > the mmap() that rpc.statd does. It definitely does not use that much > memory. A ps on a 2.2.8 prints reasonable numbers. Alex. -- alex varju just a guy ult canada On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Viren R. Shah wrote: > > We are running an NFS server (3.2-STABLE from July 29). It only allows > v2/UDP connections. > > I just looked at the ps output for rpc.statd and saw: > > USER PID %CPU %MEM VSZ RSS TT STAT STARTED TIME COMMAND > root 156 0.0 0.2 262968 256 ?? Is Mon05PM 0:00.21 rpc.statd > > The box has only been up for: > > 3:13PM up 3 days, 22:01, 9 users, load averages: 0.08, 0.15, 0.07 > > [It also serves only about a dozen clients] > > > Is there a reason why it should be taking up that much memory (even > though it's all virtual memory, and it's residential size is only 256) > > > Thanks > Viren > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 14:28:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail0.atl.bellsouth.net (mail0.atl.bellsouth.net [205.152.0.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 775881529C for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:28:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wghicks@bellsouth.net) Received: from wghicks.bellsouth.net (host-216-78-37-111.ath.bellsouth.net [216.78.37.111]) by mail0.atl.bellsouth.net (3.3.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00377; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:26:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: from wghicks.bellsouth.net (wghicks@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wghicks.bellsouth.net (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA20563; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:32:10 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from wghicks@wghicks.bellsouth.net) Message-Id: <199909032132.RAA20563@bellsouth.net> To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: "Art Neilson, KH7PZ" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, wghicks@wghicks.bellsouth.net Subject: Re: cvsup In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 03 Sep 1999 10:53:26 +0200." <35328.936348806@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 17:32:10 -0400 From: W Gerald Hicks Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > cvsup -g -L 2 supfile > > That's because cvsup likes your supfile. :-) > > > cvs update -P -d > > You're trying to mix two different methods of tracking stable. CVS and > CVSup aren't the same thing. Pick one and stick to that. The only reason > you'd want to use CVS over CVSup is if you make a lot of local source > hacks. Not necessarily :-) I find it more useful to use CVSup to maintain my local repository and use CVS to check out from that. Why? cvs log, cvs diff, etc. Cheers, Jerry Hicks wghicks@bellsouth.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 14:38: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dt010nb9.san.rr.com (dt010nb9.san.rr.com [204.210.12.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08BE815CEC for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:38:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by dt010nb9.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA61480; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:37:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Doug@gorean.org) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:37:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug X-Sender: doug@dt010nb9.san.rr.com To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Urgent! splash screen bug lives (Was: today's 3.3-RC crashes on boot) In-Reply-To: <199909032057.OAA47297@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1898233993-936394634=:61470" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1898233993-936394634=:61470 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > In message Doug writes: > : Anyone wanting to test this should try recompiling their kernel > : without that option and rebooting numerous times (at least 20). > : Unfortunately it's still not reproducable every time, but I'm very > : confident that the problem is related to that option. > > Come to think of it, I might have tried to install a screen saver as > well from the sysintsall (or at least configure that option). > > However, the reboot problem I had seen was 100% reproducible and was > due to bad hardware. *cough* Yeah, well it looks like I may have pulled the trigger too soon. I just worked on the box for a while, then rebooted it for fun and it crashed. Same dump, same spot. I'm a little concerned that it's happening on two entirely different boxes, but since I have splash in the one that just crashed that's obviously not it. I am attaching a diff to rev. 1.143.2.20 of GENERIC that shows my current configuration. The only possibly unusual item I see is removing apm? Otherwise this is virtually identical to kernel configurations I've used for years, and also to the other boxes we have from this vendor. Sorry for the confusion, Doug -- "My mama told me, my mama said, 'don't cry.' She said, 'you're too young a man to have as many women you got.' I looked at my mother dear and didn't even crack a smile. 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--0-1898233993-936394634=:61470-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 14:58:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69B0E15761 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 14:58:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA06358; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:57:47 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 16:57:47 -0500 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: W Gerald Hicks Cc: Sheldon Hearn , "Art Neilson, KH7PZ" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, wghicks@wghicks.bellsouth.net Subject: Re: cvsup Message-ID: <19990903165747.J18814@futuresouth.com> References: <35328.936348806@axl.noc.iafrica.com> <199909032132.RAA20563@bellsouth.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <199909032132.RAA20563@bellsouth.net>; from W Gerald Hicks on Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 05:32:10PM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 05:32:10PM -0400, a little birdie told me that W Gerald Hicks remarked > > > You're trying to mix two different methods of tracking stable. CVS and > > CVSup aren't the same thing. Pick one and stick to that. The only reason > > you'd want to use CVS over CVSup is if you make a lot of local source > > hacks. > > Not necessarily :-) > > I find it more useful to use CVSup to maintain my local repository > and use CVS to check out from that. Why? cvs log, cvs diff, etc. 'Screw this make cleandir crap, newfs /usr/src, cd /usr && cvs co src.' 'Let's do a build on RELENG_2_1 overnight just to prove we can!' 'Let's only CVSup once for both src/ and ports/' And, my personal favorite, 'Look at this 750 megs of space I have sitting around!' -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Unix Systems Administrator | fullermd@futuresouth.com Specializing in FreeBSD | http://www.over-yonder.net/ FutureSouth Communications | ISPHelp ISP Consulting "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 17:42:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4A714C45 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:42:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA06424; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:40:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA09927; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:40:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 17:40:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199909040040.RAA09927@vashon.polstra.com> To: fullermd@futuresouth.com Subject: Re: cvsup In-Reply-To: <19990903165747.J18814@futuresouth.com> References: <35328.936348806@axl.noc.iafrica.com> <199909032132.RAA20563@bellsouth.net> <19990903165747.J18814@futuresouth.com> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <19990903165747.J18814@futuresouth.com>, Matthew D. Fuller wrote: > On Fri, Sep 03, 1999 at 05:32:10PM -0400, a little birdie told me > that W Gerald Hicks remarked > > > > I find it more useful to use CVSup to maintain my local repository > > and use CVS to check out from that. Why? cvs log, cvs diff, etc. > > 'Screw this make cleandir crap, newfs /usr/src, cd /usr && cvs co src.' > 'Let's do a build on RELENG_2_1 overnight just to prove we can!' You obviously have way too much free time. :-) > 'Let's only CVSup once for both src/ and ports/' You can do that anyway. Remember the "*default" lines in the cvsupfile only set defaults; they can be overridden for individual collections. For example (omitting the irrelevant boilerplate): *default tag=. src-all tag=RELENG_3 ports-all doc-all will get you the current versions of the ports and docs, plus the -stable source tree. You can even get two different versions of the source tree in a single run. Just make sure you tell CVSup to put them in different places: src-all tag=RELENG_3 prefix=/usr/stable src-all tag=. prefix=/usr/current The only thing you can't do in a single run is contact more than one server. Maybe some day ... > And, my personal favorite, > 'Look at this 750 megs of space I have sitting around!' You mean _had_ sitting around. :-) John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up." -- Nora Ephron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 18: 7:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wall.polstra.com (rtrwan160.accessone.com [206.213.115.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59ACC14D15 for ; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 18:07:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Received: from vashon.polstra.com (vashon.polstra.com [206.213.73.13]) by wall.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA06553; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 18:07:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) From: John Polstra Received: (from jdp@localhost) by vashon.polstra.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA10009; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 18:07:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdp@polstra.com) Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 18:07:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199909040107.SAA10009@vashon.polstra.com> To: jeff@mountin.net Subject: Re: buildword curiousities In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19990903155015.0142d100@207.227.119.2> References: <3.0.3.32.19990903155015.0142d100@207.227.119.2> Organization: Polstra & Co., Seattle, WA Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <3.0.3.32.19990903155015.0142d100@207.227.119.2>, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > > No matter since my main point is that in both cases deleting section of the > source tree and re-cvsup'ing did not help. Gave up and blew away the > entire source tree, reinstalled the source from 3.2R, and cvsup'd again. > > The first time there were no problem cvsup'ing. Recently there have been > problems with cvsup6 hanging at times and needing to ^C and reconnect. > During the day it can be slow, but even when it's saturating a 128K ISDN > connection it will hang at times, especially if there are a lot of changes > (oddly enough last night it sent everything to bring 3.2R source up to > -stable). Stops dead and never finishes, even hours later. Hmm, when you suspect problems on a CVSup server, you can do us all a big favor by writing to the site's maintainer and asking him to check and make sure things are running smoothly. The maintainers are listed along with all the CVSup mirror sites in section 25.4 of the FreeBSD Handbook. I'm the maintainer of cvsup6, so consider me contacted. :-) I checked the log files and couldn't find any sign of trouble. It seems to be ticking along nicely. Perhaps your network path to cvsup6 is bad lately. Try a couple other mirror sites and see if any of them work better for you. (Just add "-h cvsup5.freebsd.org" to your cvsup command line to try cvsup5, for example.) The next time you get one of those hangs on cvsup6, please leave it hung and drop me an e-mail. If I'm around at the time, I'll login to cvsup6 and see what your connection looks like from its end of the pipe. > It may due to passive mode, If it is then it's a problem with your network stack probably. Try multiplexed mode (the default in CVSup-16.0, which I see you're using). It's the best all-around mode to use, and it should work in all situations. > but one has to wonder if the ^C leads to some corruption. It shouldn't. CVSup is carefully designed to do all its work in temporary files, renaming each one atomically to the actual name only after it has confirmed that the MD5 checksum is correct. At worst you might end up with a few stray temporary files lying around. But it tries hard to clean those up as well, even if you kill it with ^C. > Oddly, one time I found a badly mangled file that had not changed > for over 6 months and was never touched by cvsup or moved, barring a > hardware change. From time to time I receive reports of mangled files. But they always (always, always, every time) have turned out to be caused by HW problems or kernel problems. You can tell by making a hex dump of the offending file with "hd", and looking at where the damage begins. I can almost guarantee that it will begin at an offset which is a multiple of 4K bytes (usually it's a multiple of 8K bytes). That's a dead giveaway that the VM system or your hardware has screwed you. There's nothing CVSup or any other program can do to protect you against that. If the MD5 checksum says the file is fine (when it is still in the kernel buffers, no doubt) but then the kernel and HW don't manage to get the bits written correctly onto the disk -- well, the application did its best. John -- John Polstra jdp@polstra.com John D. Polstra & Co., Inc. Seattle, Washington USA "No matter how cynical I get, I just can't keep up." -- Nora Ephron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 18:13:28 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgw01.execpc.com (mailgw01.execpc.com [169.207.2.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9434B14CFC; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 18:13:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from n9kws@execpc.com) Received: from utah.n9kws.net (as2-13.isdn.mke.execpc.com [169.207.71.77]) by mailgw01.execpc.com (8.9.1) id UAA15720; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 20:13:01 -0500 From: Andrew Whitcroft To: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Need Installation Help... Date: Fri, 3 Sep 1999 20:10:06 -0500 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.24] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99090320125000.06607@utah.n9kws.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi All -- I am trying to become part of the FreeBSD world but am having problems with the installation process. I am trying to install FreeBSD on a IBM PC Server 325. However, as near as I can determine the Adaptec AIC 7880 SCCI card and the AMD/PCI network interface is giving me fits. After looking at the FAQ, and other documentation, it appears that the source of my problems are being caused by lack of support fo these devices in the generic install kernel. This is further complicated by the fact that I do not have a machine which is currently running FreeBSD, so I cannot build a custom installation disk. I really want to install FreeBSD on this box, but these issues are preventing me from doing so. Does anybody have any comments/thoughts which might help me get out of this corner I have painted myself into? Thanks in Advance, Andy. -- -------------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Whitcroft n9kws at execpc.com -------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 18:20:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6637A14CE2; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 18:20:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA02515; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 18:14:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199909040114.SAA02515@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Andrew Whitcroft Cc: freebsd-current@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Need Installation Help... In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 03 Sep 1999 20:10:06 CDT." <99090320125000.06607@utah.n9kws.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 18:14:33 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > installation process. I am trying to install FreeBSD on a IBM PC Server 325. > However, as near as I can determine the Adaptec AIC 7880 SCCI card and the > AMD/PCI network interface is giving me fits. > > After looking at the FAQ, and other documentation, it appears that the source > of my problems are being caused by lack of support fo these devices in the > generic install kernel. No; both of these devices are supported in any recent version of FreeBSD. The AMD network adapter is known to be troublesome, but there are many people running FreeBSD just fine on the 325. Which version of FreeBSD are you trying to install? What problems are you experiencing? -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Sep 3 18:23:49 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from granite.sentex.net (granite.sentex.ca [199.212.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21DCF14D3E; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 18:23:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from gravel (ospf-mdt.sentex.net [205.211.164.81]) by granite.sentex.net (8.8.8/8.6.9) with SMTP id VAA07793; Fri, 3 Sep 1999 21:23:01 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <4.1.19990903212905.03bba6d0@granite.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtancsa@granite.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.1 Date: Fri, 03 Sep 1999 21:35:52 -0400 To: Andrew Whitcroft From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Need Installation Help... Cc: questions@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <99090320125000.06607@utah.n9kws.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The question you asked belongs on the questions mailing list, not the current and stable list. I will cc' it there for you. You also need to provide a little more info like 1) What are you installing ? FreeBSD 3.1, 3.2, FreeBSD current ? 2) HOW are you installing it ? From CD-ROM, boot floppy/network install ? 3) Did you check the list of supported devices ? From the HARDWARE.TXT file Adaptec AIC7850, AIC7860, AIC7880, AIC789x, on-board SCSI controllers. are indeed supported. Also, for networks cards, AMD PCnet/PCI (79c970 & 53c974 or 79c974) are listed as supported. Is that what you have ? ---Mike At 09:10 PM 9/3/99 , Andrew Whitcroft wrote: >Hi All -- > >I am trying to become part of the FreeBSD world but am having problems with the >installation process. I am trying to install FreeBSD on a IBM PC Server 325. >However, as near as I can determine the Adaptec AIC 7880 SCCI card and the >AMD/PCI network interface is giving me fits. > >After looking at the FAQ, and other documentation, it appears that the source >of my problems are being caused by lack of support fo these devices in the >generic install kernel. This is further complicated by the fact that I do not >have a machine which is currently running FreeBSD, so I cannot build a custom >installation disk. > >I really want to install FreeBSD on this box, but these issues are preventing >me from doing so. Does anybody have any comments/thoughts which might help me >get out of this corner I have painted myself into? > >Thanks in Advance, >Andy. >-- >-------------------------------------------------------------- >Andrew Whitcroft >n9kws at execpc.com >-------------------------------------------------------------- > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ********************************************************************** Mike Tancsa, Network Admin * mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications Corp, * http://www.sentex.net/mike Cambridge, Ontario * 01.519.651.3400 Canada * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 4 8:28:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from prime.net.ua (P1M8.prime.net.ua [195.64.229.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B63714EF7 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 08:28:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Received: from prime.net.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prime.net.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00770; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 18:28:24 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <37D13A93.2D69192E@prime.net.ua> Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 18:28:20 +0300 From: "Andy V. Oleynik" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, en, uk MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Urgent! splash screen bug lives (Was: today's 3.3-RC crashes onboot) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm confused... Or I missunderstood smth? Did U talk about absence of splash leading for crash? But U have no splash in the config U sent! Doug wrote: > On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > > > In message Doug writes: > > : Anyone wanting to test this should try recompiling their kernel > > : without that option and rebooting numerous times (at least 20). > > : Unfortunately it's still not reproducable every time, but I'm very > > : confident that the problem is related to that option. > > > > Come to think of it, I might have tried to install a screen saver as > > well from the sysintsall (or at least configure that option). > > > > However, the reboot problem I had seen was 100% reproducible and was > > due to bad hardware. > > *cough* Yeah, well it looks like I may have pulled the trigger too > soon. I just worked on the box for a while, then rebooted it for fun and > it crashed. Same dump, same spot. I'm a little concerned that it's > happening on two entirely different boxes, but since I have splash in the > one that just crashed that's obviously not it. I am attaching a diff to > rev. 1.143.2.20 of GENERIC that shows my current configuration. The only > possibly unusual item I see is removing apm? Otherwise this is virtually > identical to kernel configurations I've used for years, and also to the > other boxes we have from this vendor. > > Sorry for the confusion, > > Doug > -- > "My mama told me, my mama said, 'don't cry.' She said, 'you're too young a man > to have as many women you got.' I looked at my mother dear and didn't even > crack a smile. I said, 'If women kill me, I don't mind dyin!'" > > - John Belushi as "Joliet" Jake Blues, "I Don't Know" > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Name: newgen.diff > newgen.diff Type: Plain Text (TEXT/PLAIN) > Encoding: BASE64 > Description: GENERIC diff -- WBW Andy V. Oleynik PGP key's fingerprint prime.net.ua's D0 1E 7B B4 33 65 49 97 9C 79 7C 64 5C 9C F3 25 system administrator +380442448363 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 4 9:16: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57EBD14F1D for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 09:16:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from localhost (533 bytes) by rip.psg.com via sendmail with P:stdio/R:inet_resolve/T:smtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 09:16:00 -0700 (PDT) (Smail-3.2.0.101 1997-Dec-17 #1 built 1999-Apr-1) Message-Id: Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 09:16:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Greg Lynn Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: ASUS p2b-ds Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I know that question has been around before but > I was thinking about getting a asus p2b-ds with > ecc memory and 2 pii 350mhz cpus and I was > wondering how kernel 3.2 does with smp? runs in -current with 2x350 randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 4 9:59:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4919914C10 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 09:59:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeff@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id LAA06402; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 11:58:47 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jeff@mountin.net) Received: from dial-158.tnt1.rac.cyberlynk.net(209.224.182.158) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma006400; Sat Sep 4 11:58:44 1999 Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19990904115824.01512db0@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeffm@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.3 (32) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 11:58:24 -0500 To: John Polstra From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: buildword curiousities Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199909040107.SAA10009@vashon.polstra.com> References: <3.0.3.32.19990903155015.0142d100@207.227.119.2> <3.0.3.32.19990903155015.0142d100@207.227.119.2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 06:07 PM 9/3/99 -0700, John Polstra wrote: >Hmm, when you suspect problems on a CVSup server, you can do us all a >big favor by writing to the site's maintainer and asking him to check >and make sure things are running smoothly. The maintainers are listed >along with all the CVSup mirror sites in section 25.4 of the FreeBSD >Handbook. I am aware of this, but it's 17 hops over to cvsup6, 15 to cvsup2 and cvsup3, 19 to cvsup5, which have become a bit crowded the past month of so and cvsup5 was not listed when I last checked. With bbnplanet (and AT&T) in the path *and* since it happens during day mostly I'd rather think it's a network hiccup. >I'm the maintainer of cvsup6, so consider me contacted. :-) I checked >the log files and couldn't find any sign of trouble. It seems to be >ticking along nicely. Perhaps your network path to cvsup6 is bad >lately. Try a couple other mirror sites and see if any of them work >better for you. (Just add "-h cvsup5.freebsd.org" to your cvsup >command line to try cvsup5, for example.) Usually at this point when I try the others, it's not possible to connect immediately and after 3 - 5 minute timeouts a break is in order. 8-/ >The next time you get one of those hangs on cvsup6, please leave it >hung and drop me an e-mail. If I'm around at the time, I'll login to >cvsup6 and see what your connection looks like from its end of the >pipe. Will do. My connection has a 4 hour session limit, so I include the time left for the connection and keep it live, as well as more follow-up checking on the network path. >If it is then it's a problem with your network stack probably. Try >multiplexed mode (the default in CVSup-16.0, which I see you're >using). It's the best all-around mode to use, and it should work in >all situations. I'll change to '-P m' then. >It shouldn't. CVSup is carefully designed to do all its work in >temporary files, renaming each one atomically to the actual name only >after it has confirmed that the MD5 checksum is correct. At worst you >might end up with a few stray temporary files lying around. But it >tries hard to clean those up as well, even if you kill it with ^C. Where does it store the temp files? Memory? Don't recall seeing any and don't have the source (only thing I don't compile). >From time to time I receive reports of mangled files. But they >always (always, always, every time) have turned out to be caused by >HW problems or kernel problems. You can tell by making a hex dump of >the offending file with "hd", and looking at where the damage begins. >I can almost guarantee that it will begin at an offset which is a >multiple of 4K bytes (usually it's a multiple of 8K bytes). That's >a dead giveaway that the VM system or your hardware has screwed you. >There's nothing CVSup or any other program can do to protect you >against that. If the MD5 checksum says the file is fine (when it is >still in the kernel buffers, no doubt) but then the kernel and HW >don't manage to get the bits written correctly onto the disk -- well, >the application did its best. Next time it happens I'll track down the offending file and check, but the last time the corrupted file was installed from CD and survived many builds. Could be a drive issue, however. One more thing to watch closer. thanks Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve '86 Yamaha MaxiumX (not FBSD powered) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 4 12:53:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from prime.net.ua (P1M3.prime.net.ua [195.64.229.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC571520D for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 12:53:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andyo@prime.net.ua) Received: from prime.net.ua (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prime.net.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA00376; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 22:53:07 +0300 (EEST) Message-ID: <37D178A0.9B46B95D@prime.net.ua> Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 22:53:05 +0300 From: "Andy V. Oleynik" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: ru, en, uk MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Urgent! splash screen bug lives (Was: today's 3.3-RC crashes onboot) References: <37D13A93.2D69192E@prime.net.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hell. I'm sorrey. I've forgotten that some set of lines simply might not been shown in diff :) "Andy V. Oleynik" wrote: > I'm confused... Or I missunderstood smth? Did U talk > about absence of splash leading for crash? But U > have no splash in the config U sent! > Doug wrote: > > > On Fri, 3 Sep 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > > > > > In message Doug writes: > > > : Anyone wanting to test this should try recompiling their kernel > > > : without that option and rebooting numerous times (at least 20). > > > : Unfortunately it's still not reproducable every time, but I'm very > > > : confident that the problem is related to that option. > > > > > > Come to think of it, I might have tried to install a screen saver as > > > well from the sysintsall (or at least configure that option). > > > > > > However, the reboot problem I had seen was 100% reproducible and was > > > due to bad hardware. > > > > *cough* Yeah, well it looks like I may have pulled the trigger too > > soon. I just worked on the box for a while, then rebooted it for fun and > > it crashed. Same dump, same spot. I'm a little concerned that it's > > happening on two entirely different boxes, but since I have splash in the > > one that just crashed that's obviously not it. I am attaching a diff to > > rev. 1.143.2.20 of GENERIC that shows my current configuration. The only > > possibly unusual item I see is removing apm? Otherwise this is virtually > > identical to kernel configurations I've used for years, and also to the > > other boxes we have from this vendor. > > > > Sorry for the confusion, > > > > Doug > > -- > > "My mama told me, my mama said, 'don't cry.' She said, 'you're too young a man > > to have as many women you got.' I looked at my mother dear and didn't even > > crack a smile. I said, 'If women kill me, I don't mind dyin!'" > > > > - John Belushi as "Joliet" Jake Blues, "I Don't Know" > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Name: newgen.diff > > newgen.diff Type: Plain Text (TEXT/PLAIN) > > Encoding: BASE64 > > Description: GENERIC diff > > -- > WBW Andy V. Oleynik PGP key's fingerprint > prime.net.ua's D0 1E 7B B4 33 65 49 97 9C 79 7C 64 5C 9C F3 25 > system administrator > +380442448363 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- WBW Andy V. Oleynik PGP key's fingerprint prime.net.ua's D0 1E 7B B4 33 65 49 97 9C 79 7C 64 5C 9C F3 25 system administrator +380442448363 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 4 14:42:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [207.154.226.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2755A15208 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 14:42:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paul@elvis.mu.org) Received: (from paul@localhost) by elvis.mu.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) id QAA47555 for stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 16:41:12 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from paul) Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 16:41:12 -0500 From: Paul Saab To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: analyzing a crash of 3.2-RELEASE Message-ID: <19990904164112.A47315@elvis.mu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have been trying to figure out why exactly this panic is occurring and I am stumped. The scenero is like this: We currently have 40 machines to serve up small graphics for our web site and we are currently evaluating other solutions to retire the current architecture, and one of them is NT. I for one do not want to let NT onto the site, so I build a 3.2-RELEASE machine running thttpd to replace all 40 servers, and not surprisingly, the machine was able to handle the entire load. Lets just say this pissed off our NT people a lot and has scared them, because this was their attempt to get it onto the site. Now onto the problem.. After about an hour or so in production (20-30 minutes if running in dual-proc) the machine panics with "free: multiple free". Below is the backtrace. If someone can help me out, or point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it. This is really the only thing stopping us from putting it into production across the site. I also looked at the commit logs and mailing lists and I could not find if this problem has already been fixed. If you are not familiar with the way thttpd works, it is basically a single threaded web server that runs in a big select loop, accepting as many connections as possible and then spiting out the data to the client as quickly as possible. On our site we are handling between 500-1000 connections/second with the CPU load at about 80-85%. (kgdb) bt #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285 #1 0xc015bab9 in panic (fmt=0xc020f3a3 "free: multiple frees") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:446 #2 0xc0158863 in free (addr=0xc40b6600, type=0xc024f270) at ../../kern/kern_malloc.c:333 #3 0xc01955d2 in ifafree (ifa=0xc40b6600) at ../../net/route.c:262 #4 0xc0195556 in rtfree (rt=0xc4ea9d00) at ../../net/route.c:236 #5 0xc0195960 in rtrequest (req=2, dst=0xc4ea8de0, gateway=0xc4ea8df0, netmask=0x0, flags=393223, ret_nrt=0x0) at ../../net/route.c:536 #6 0xc019a031 in in_rtqkill (rn=0xc4ea9d00, rock=0xcd7d2f74) at ../../netinet/in_rmx.c:242 #7 0xc0194d64 in rn_walktree (h=0xc409b080, f=0xc0199fe0 , w=0xcd7d2f74) at ../../net/radix.c:956 #8 0xc019a0de in in_rtqtimo (rock=0xc409b080) at ../../netinet/in_rmx.c:283 #9 0xc015fea3 in softclock () at ../../kern/kern_timeout.c:124 #10 0xc01db813 in doreti_swi () #11 0x8049761 in ?? () paul To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 4 14:59: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from metriclient-1.uoregon.edu (metriclient-1.uoregon.edu [128.223.172.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04F5414F17 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 14:59:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gurney_j@efn.org) Received: (from jmg@localhost) by metriclient-1.uoregon.edu (8.9.1/8.8.7) id OAA07421; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 14:58:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <19990904145848.51275@hydrogen.fircrest.net> Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 14:58:48 -0700 From: John-Mark Gurney To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: new install panics in same place... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.69 Reply-To: John-Mark Gurney Organization: Cu Networking X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.0-RELEASE i386 X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 EC EF F8 AE ED A7 31 96 7A 22 B3 D8 56 36 F4 X-Files: The truth is out there X-URL: http://resnet.uoregon.edu/~gurney_j/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG well, I just did a new install of 3.2-R (yeh, I know 3.3-R is coming out in a week or two)... and I get: Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0xfc085cc fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc021a0ba stack pointer = 0x10:0xc2df6b04 frame pointer = 0x10:0xc2df6b74 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 1 (swapper) interrupt mask = trap number = 12 panic: page fault this is on an amd5x86/133 w/ 16megs ram... FIC 486-PIO-3 mb (pci) processor info: Id = 0x4f4, and it's a write back processor... I even swapped it out w/ another processor and it still gets the exact same fault... and anyways, isn't 1 suppose to be init?? -- John-Mark Gurney Voice: +1 541 684 8449 Cu Networking P.O. Box 5693, 97405 "The soul contains in itself the event that shall presently befall it. The event is only the actualizing of its thought." -- Ralph Waldo Emerson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 4 15: 2: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles519.castles.com [208.214.165.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C297015208 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 15:02:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA07496; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 14:54:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199909042154.OAA07496@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Paul Saab Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: analyzing a crash of 3.2-RELEASE In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 04 Sep 1999 16:41:12 CDT." <19990904164112.A47315@elvis.mu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 14:54:44 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have been trying to figure out why exactly this panic is occurring > and I am stumped. The scenero is like this: > > We currently have 40 machines to serve up small graphics for our > web site and we are currently evaluating other solutions to retire > the current architecture, and one of them is NT. I for one do not > want to let NT onto the site, so I build a 3.2-RELEASE machine > running thttpd to replace all 40 servers, and not surprisingly, > the machine was able to handle the entire load. Lets just say this > pissed off our NT people a lot and has scared them, because this > was their attempt to get it onto the site. 8) Paul, I'm happy to hear you're doing battle for us on this one. You can count on our support for this. > Now onto the problem.. After about an hour or so in production > (20-30 minutes if running in dual-proc) the machine panics with > "free: multiple free". Below is the backtrace. If someone can > help me out, or point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it. > This is really the only thing stopping us from putting it into > production across the site. I also looked at the commit logs and > mailing lists and I could not find if this problem has already been > fixed. This looks like a race in the route handling code that was fixed a while back; you can either disable path MTU discovery (which prevents the massive routing table growth that you may also see in your application) or update to 3.2-stable in which I _believe_ that this has been fixed. You could also search the list archives for other threads referring to this problem; it has been discussed at some length a while back. > (kgdb) bt > #0 boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285 > #1 0xc015bab9 in panic (fmt=0xc020f3a3 "free: multiple frees") > at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:446 > #2 0xc0158863 in free (addr=0xc40b6600, type=0xc024f270) > at ../../kern/kern_malloc.c:333 > #3 0xc01955d2 in ifafree (ifa=0xc40b6600) at ../../net/route.c:262 > #4 0xc0195556 in rtfree (rt=0xc4ea9d00) at ../../net/route.c:236 > #5 0xc0195960 in rtrequest (req=2, dst=0xc4ea8de0, gateway=0xc4ea8df0, > netmask=0x0, flags=393223, ret_nrt=0x0) at ../../net/route.c:536 > #6 0xc019a031 in in_rtqkill (rn=0xc4ea9d00, rock=0xcd7d2f74) > at ../../netinet/in_rmx.c:242 > #7 0xc0194d64 in rn_walktree (h=0xc409b080, f=0xc0199fe0 , > w=0xcd7d2f74) at ../../net/radix.c:956 > #8 0xc019a0de in in_rtqtimo (rock=0xc409b080) at ../../netinet/in_rmx.c:283 > #9 0xc015fea3 in softclock () at ../../kern/kern_timeout.c:124 > #10 0xc01db813 in doreti_swi () > #11 0x8049761 in ?? () > > paul > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 4 15:20:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kusanagi.boing.com (adsl-gte-la-216-86-194-238.mminternet.com [216.86.194.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38806150B8 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 15:20:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boing@kusanagi.boing.com) Received: (from boing@localhost) by kusanagi.boing.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA54992 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 15:19:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from boing) Message-Id: <199909042219.PAA54992@kusanagi.boing.com> Date: Sat, 4 Sep 1999 15:19:48 -0700 (PDT) From: Geff Hanoian Subject: panicstr: rlist_free: free end overlaps already freed area - in 3.2 S as of 08291999 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG No flames please. Not sure what else is desired. Please let me know. It's happened twice to me with the same kernel. When it happens the 2940UW light sticks on, but dim, and it hangs there for about 10 seconds, and .... reset. It's only happened while in X. Not that it should matter, but I'm trying to include everything I remember. HELP. --- kusanagi:/usr/src/sys/compile/KUSANAGI)sudo gdb -k kernel /var/crash/vmcore.1 GNU gdb 4.18 Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd"... IdlePTD 3084288 initial pcb at 26b8e8 panicstr: rlist_free: free end overlaps already freed area panic messages: --- dmesg: kernel message buffer has different magic number --- #0 boot (howto=Cannot access memory at address 0xc8ed6df8. ) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:285 warning: Source file is more recent than executable. 285 dumppcb.pcb_cr3 = rcr3(); To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 4 19:19:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.hawaii.rr.com (smtp3.hawaii.rr.com [204.210.97.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C28F914BD5 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 19:19:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from art@hawaii.rr.com) Received: from taz - 24.31.76.79 by smtp3.hawaii.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1774.114.11); Sat, 4 Sep 1999 16:19:45 -1000 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19990904161910.00794a90@clients1.hawaii.rr.com> X-Sender: art@clients1.hawaii.rr.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 16:19:10 -1000 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: "Art Neilson, KH7PZ" Subject: lsof-4.45 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG My system was FreeBSD-3.2-R, I recently started tracking stable and made world. My system is now 3.3-RC, I also cvsuped the ports-all with the following supfile successfully. *default host=cvsup2.freebsd.org *default base=/usr *default prefix=/usr *default release=cvs tag=. *default delete use-rel-suffix *default compress ports-all When I ran lsof today to check on open files I noticed a message telling me my kernel had changed. lsof: WARNING: compiled for FreeBSD release 3.2-RELEASE; this is 3.3-RC. so I went into /usr/ports/sysutils/lsof and did a make. The make now bombs with the following errors, it appears it does not like my 3.3-RC anymore. help? ===> Building for lsof-4.45 (cd lib; make DEBUG="-O") cc -pipe -DFREEBSDV=200 -DHASFDESCFS -DHASPROCFS -DHAS9660FS -DLSOF_VSTR=\"3.3- RC\" -I/usr/include -I/usr/src/sys -O -c ckkv.c In file included from ../dlsof.h:96, from ../lsof.h:167, from ckkv.c:43: /usr/include/ufs/mfs/mfsnode.h:49: field `buf_queue' has incomplete type In file included from ../dlsof.h:107, from ../lsof.h:167, from ckkv.c:43: /usr/include/nfs/nfs.h:219: parse error before `NFSKERBKEY_T' /usr/include/nfs/nfs.h:219: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union /usr/include/nfs/nfs.h:230: parse error before `NFSKERBKEY_T' /usr/include/nfs/nfs.h:230: warning: no semicolon at end of struct or union In file included from ../dlsof.h:179, from ../lsof.h:167, from ckkv.c:43: /usr/include/vm/vm_map.h:158: field `vm_pmap' has incomplete type *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. -- __ / ) _/_ It is a capital mistake to theorise before one has data. /--/ __ / Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, / (_/ (_<__ Instead of theories to suit facts. -- Sherlock Holmes, "A Scandal in Bohemia" Arthur W. Neilson III, KH7PZ Bank of Hawaii Tech Support art@hawaii.rr.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 4 22:12: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from implode.root.com (root.com [209.102.106.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4EAF5152FD for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 22:12:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dg@implode.root.com) Received: from implode.root.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by implode.root.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) with ESMTP id WAA02378; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 22:09:24 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <199909050509.WAA02378@implode.root.com> To: Mike Smith Cc: Paul Saab , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: analyzing a crash of 3.2-RELEASE In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 04 Sep 1999 14:54:44 PDT." <199909042154.OAA07496@dingo.cdrom.com> From: David Greenman Reply-To: dg@root.com Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 22:09:24 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >This looks like a race in the route handling code that was fixed a >while back; you can either disable path MTU discovery (which prevents >the massive routing table growth that you may also see in your >application) or update to 3.2-stable in which I _believe_ that this has Why would disabling PMTUD have any affect on that? The clone routes should still be created just as before. -DG David Greenman Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com Pave the road of life with opportunities. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Sep 4 23:29:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles529.castles.com [208.214.165.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89C6315156 for ; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 23:29:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (LOCALHOST [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id XAA09791; Sat, 4 Sep 1999 23:23:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199909050623.XAA09791@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: dg@root.com Cc: Mike Smith , Paul Saab , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: analyzing a crash of 3.2-RELEASE In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 04 Sep 1999 22:09:24 PDT." <199909050509.WAA02378@implode.root.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 04 Sep 1999 23:23:04 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >This looks like a race in the route handling code that was fixed a > >while back; you can either disable path MTU discovery (which prevents > >the massive routing table growth that you may also see in your > >application) or update to 3.2-stable in which I _believe_ that this has > > Why would disabling PMTUD have any affect on that? The clone routes should > still be created just as before. They should? It was my understanding that the clone routes were only created in order to hold the PMTU information as required. If not, then I guess we still have a race somewhere in the route manipulation code, unless this is fixed as a side-effect of rev 1.18 of radix.c. -- \\ The mind's the standard \\ Mike Smith \\ of the man. \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ -- Joseph Merrick \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message