From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 31 13:50:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 758) id BDD6814BC5; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:50:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACA151CD624; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:50:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@hub.freebsd.org) Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:50:38 -0800 (PST) From: Kris Kennaway To: "David W. Chapman Jr." Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: Proftpd Again In-Reply-To: <005201bf229c$41fe7160$0300a8c0@poseiden.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 30 Oct 1999, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: > unable to resolve symbol: pam_sm_open_session > unable to resolve symbol: pam_sm_open_session > unable to resolve symbol: pam_sm_close_session > unable to resolve symbol: pam_sm_close_session > > Anyone have any ideas? What version of FreeBSD are you running? Kris ---- "Lisa, if you don't like your job, you don't strike - you just go in every day and do it real half-assed. It's the American Way." -- Homer Simpson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Oct 31 13:55: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from minubian.houabg.com (minubian.houabg.com [206.109.247.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 237FA14E9E for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 13:55:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dchapman@houabg.com) Received: from houcbs2.houabg.com (HOUABG.COM [206.109.247.20]) by minubian.houabg.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA22196 for ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 16:25:44 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dchapman@houabg.com) Received: from 216-118-18-135.pdq.net by houcbs2.houabg.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.0.1457.7) id SG16TXZJ; Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:55:06 -0600 Message-ID: <006c01bf23ea$abba5ca0$0300a8c0@poseiden.org> From: "David W. Chapman Jr." To: "Kris Kennaway" Cc: "FreeBSD Stable" References: Subject: Re: Proftpd Again Date: Sun, 31 Oct 1999 15:55:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG 3.3-STABLE as of a 2 days ago. ----- Original Message ----- From: Kris Kennaway To: David W. Chapman Jr. Cc: FreeBSD Stable Sent: Sunday, October 31, 1999 3:50 PM Subject: Re: Proftpd Again > On Sat, 30 Oct 1999, David W. Chapman Jr. wrote: > > > unable to resolve symbol: pam_sm_open_session > > unable to resolve symbol: pam_sm_open_session > > unable to resolve symbol: pam_sm_close_session > > unable to resolve symbol: pam_sm_close_session > > > > Anyone have any ideas? > > What version of FreeBSD are you running? > > Kris > > ---- > "Lisa, if you don't like your job, you don't strike - you just go in every > day and do it real half-assed. It's the American Way." > -- Homer Simpson > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 1 7:17:59 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klentaq.com (klentaq1.emergingtech.org [199.217.151.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8B015249 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 07:17:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stabilizer@klentaq.com) Received: (from stabilizer@localhost) by klentaq.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA52856 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:29:54 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from stabilizer) From: Wayne M Barnes Message-Id: <199911011529.JAA52856@klentaq.com> Subject: StarOffice 5.1a To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Stable) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:29:54 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Stables, gs dumps core Bus error Thanks to several people who recommended "on the money" instructions. These got my StarOffice installed, but .. It seems that Star Office only prints postscript, and evidently my printer (HP Office Jet Pro 1150C) can't handle postscript. I installed Ghostscript 5.10 (and also tried 5.5) and it dumps core. exited on signal 10 (core dumped) Bus error. I installed gs on another machine that is nearly identical to this one (both running FreeBSD 3.3). 'gs -h' command there does fine. I made a new kernel here using the kernel config file from the other machine, in the hope that the difference lay in a few lines that I had to change here to install soffice and get the printer working. No luck. 'gs -h' still dumps core here. FreeBSD barnesos.com 3.3-STABLE FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE #0: Mon Nov 1 07:44:46 CST 1999 wayne@barnesos.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENEBONE i386 Wayne M Barnes stabilizer@klentaq.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 1 8:43: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dns.sunline.net (dns.sunline.net [207.30.56.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D06014F56 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 08:42:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scorpio@sunline.net) Received: from dns (jeff.sunline.net [207.30.56.254]) by dns.sunline.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA20123 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:25:41 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991101114049.0095d6c0@mail.sunline.net> X-Sender: scorpio@mail.sunline.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 11:41:14 -0500 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org From: Jeff Palmer Subject: subscribe Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe Jeff Palmer scorpio@sunline.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 1 9:16:51 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klentaq.com (klentaq1.emergingtech.org [199.217.151.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2EED14BCD for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 09:16:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stabilizer@klentaq.com) Received: (from stabilizer@localhost) by klentaq.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA53029 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:28:59 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from stabilizer) From: Wayne M Barnes Message-Id: <199911011728.LAA53029@klentaq.com> Subject: ethernet hard or soft failure To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org (FreeBSD Stable) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 11:28:59 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear FreeBSDers, Is the following recurrent failure a hardware or software failure? My 3.3 system loses its internet connection often, but only in the past 3 weeks. Before that this did not happen for years. Right in the middle of using ssh to it for emailing, it will lock up. Back at the console, the system is still up, but only one ping can get out, or fewer. The rest of the pings give ping: sendto: No buffer space available ping: sendto: No buffer space available ping: sendto: No buffer space available My loads are never really heavy, but there is no correlation with heavy or light loads. I have tried 2 brands of fresh ethernet cards (but both seem to use rl0) in 2 different PCI slots. Also I have tried 2 different ethernet ports to our dept. network. A reboot gets the system going normally for awhile. MTBF = 1 day, but sometimes it's 5 minutes. The system with the problem is: FreeBSD barnes1.wustl.edu 3.3-STABLE FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE #10: Wed Oct 27 13:38:51 CDT 1999 wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENEONE i386 Wayne M Barnes stabilizer@klentaq.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 1 10: 9:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tetron03.tetronsoftware.com (tetron03.tetronsoftware.com [208.236.46.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92EA152D1 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:09:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zeus@tetron03.tetronsoftware.com) Received: from tetron03.tetronsoftware.com (tetron03.tetronsoftware.com [208.236.46.108]) by tetron03.tetronsoftware.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21874; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:11:01 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from zeus@tetron03.tetronsoftware.com) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 12:11:00 -0600 (CST) From: Gene Harris To: Wayne M Barnes Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: ethernet hard or soft failure In-Reply-To: <199911011728.LAA53029@klentaq.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Wayne, Have you performed a make world recently to ensure that your "world" is syncronous with your kernel? Is this also the same machine that is causing core dumps with star office? I assume you've added all the stuff to your kernel necessary to get so running. You may also need to "remake" your Linux compatibility in order to correct any problems that have creeped into your configuration. Good Luck, Gene On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Wayne M Barnes wrote: > Dear FreeBSDers, > > Is the following recurrent failure a hardware or software failure? > > My 3.3 system loses its internet connection often, but only in > the past 3 weeks. Before that this did not happen for years. > > Right in the middle of using ssh to it for emailing, it will lock > up. Back at the console, the system is still up, but only one > ping can get out, or fewer. The rest of the pings give > > ping: sendto: No buffer space available > ping: sendto: No buffer space available > ping: sendto: No buffer space available > > My loads are never really heavy, but there is no correlation with heavy > or light loads. I have tried 2 brands of fresh ethernet cards > (but both seem to use rl0) in 2 different PCI slots. Also I have > tried 2 different ethernet ports to our dept. network. > > A reboot gets the system going normally for awhile. MTBF = 1 day, > but sometimes it's 5 minutes. > The system with the problem is: > FreeBSD barnes1.wustl.edu 3.3-STABLE FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE #10: Wed Oct 27 13:38:51 CDT 1999 wayne@barnes1.wustl.edu:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENEONE i386 > > Wayne M Barnes stabilizer@klentaq.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 1 10:15: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ady.warpnet.ro (ady.warpnet.ro [194.102.224.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A71614A08 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:14:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Received: from localhost (ady@localhost) by ady.warpnet.ro (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA31523; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 20:20:19 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ady@warpnet.ro) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 20:20:18 +0200 (EET) From: Adrian Penisoara To: Brian Somers Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: MP downliks problem (was Re: PPP dying with signal 10) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi again, On Fri, 29 Oct 1999, Adrian Penisoara wrote: > > I think I'm misunderstanding at least some of the problem. I'm > > assuming the following: You have a two-link ppp session with ppp(8) > > running in -direct mode. > > Correct up to here... > > You then reset both modems and ppp exits. > > The client dials again (twice) and has problems establishing the > > connection because no ``replies'' are sent by one side or the other. > > Nope: On one end the carriers on both links go down (for example a wire > cut) and then the links is reestablished but almost no packets get sent > through. This is fixed only with a 'down' at the control prompt. Just to let you know: I've implemented another multilink in the same configuration with MPD ver. 2.0b2 from Whistle Communications (net/mpd from ports) and everything works smooth (no problems when links go down, even when simultaneously -- everything goes back to normal when links get back online). I haven't got yet a chance to closely trace the problem, I've resorted to a workaround: sending a "down" with pppctl every half an hour. I know it's pretty dumb but at least it saves me from a lot of nerves; still this is not 100% reliable. How exactly can I help you trace this nasty bug ? Ady (@warpnet.ro) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 1 10:20:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from node11a94.a2000.nl (node11a94.a2000.nl [24.132.26.148]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 48DCB15035 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:20:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ronald@node11a94.a2000.nl) Received: (qmail 61296 invoked from network); 1 Nov 1999 18:20:09 -0000 Received: from node11a94.a2000.nl (24.132.26.148) by node11a94.a2000.nl with SMTP; 1 Nov 1999 18:20:09 -0000 Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 19:20:08 +0100 (CET) From: Ronald 'Ko' Klop To: Wayne M Barnes Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: StarOffice 5.1a In-Reply-To: <199911011529.JAA52856@klentaq.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Wayne M Barnes wrote: > Dear Stables, > > gs dumps core Bus error > > I installed Ghostscript 5.10 (and also tried 5.5) and it > dumps core. exited on signal 10 (core dumped) Bus error. Maybe it's not related, but I ones had 'Floating point exceptions' with gs which disappeared after I recompiled it without optimization (-O). I hope it helps. Greetings, Ronald. -- Ronald Klop http://node11a94.a2000.nl/~ronald/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 1 10:37:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sinai.dhs.org (adsl-216-103-54-61.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [216.103.54.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F2FE14BFE; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:37:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sab@sinai.dhs.org) Received: from localhost (sab@localhost) by sinai.dhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id KAA39506; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:29:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sab@sinai.dhs.org) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 10:29:34 -0800 (PST) From: Scott Benjamin To: hackers@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: IDA driver issues upon installation. Probing devices hangs Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am trying to install the stable snapshot from 10301999 on a compaq proliant 4500 with a smart array controller. I recompile the installation kernel and dropped it on the disk. The newly compile kernel has the ida driver included (as the drives are on that controller). It finds the controller and the logical drives, but when the installation program starts, it hangs at Probing for devices. The ida driver also reports "irq with no handler" when the kernel finds the device (prior to the probing screen). I've tried moving irq's around and removing some other cards but nothing. If I boot without the ida driver, it works ifne except that I don't have any drives to install on. If you need any more information please let me know. Thanks! Scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 1 16:33: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF9291516F; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:32:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA00513; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:23:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199911020023.QAA00513@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Scott Benjamin Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IDA driver issues upon installation. Probing devices hangs In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 Nov 1999 10:29:34 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 16:23:50 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG None of the interested developers have access to one of these machines anymore; it's quite possible that things have been changed or broken to some degree of late. > I am trying to install the stable snapshot from 10301999 on a compaq > proliant 4500 with a smart array controller. I recompile the installation -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 1 16:33:54 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7995D15349; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:33:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA00527; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:24:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199911020024.QAA00527@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Scott Benjamin Cc: hackers@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IDA driver issues upon installation. Probing devices hangs In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 01 Nov 1999 10:29:34 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 01 Nov 1999 16:24:46 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I've tried moving irq's around and removing some other cards but nothing. > If I boot without the ida driver, it works ifne except that I don't have > any drives to install on. Oops, I forgot to mention; you can't install onto an 'ida' drive; you need a system drive. You will want one anyway; swapping onto a RAID5 array is a pretty lame idea. 8) -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 1 16:42:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sinai.dhs.org (adsl-216-103-54-61.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [216.103.54.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07ED215362; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:42:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sab@sinai.dhs.org) Received: from localhost (sab@localhost) by sinai.dhs.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id QAA47394; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:34:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sab@sinai.dhs.org) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:34:54 -0800 (PST) From: Scott Benjamin To: Mike Smith Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IDA driver issues upon installation. Probing devices hangs In-Reply-To: <199911020024.QAA00527@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The array only contains two drives. Hmm.. the only other way is to use a drive on the embedded controller, which is a ncr (chipset 53C825) which isn't found by probing when the kernel loads. It's and embedded EISA compaq 32-bit Fast-Wide Scsi2-/e .. On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > I've tried moving irq's around and removing some other cards but nothing. > > If I boot without the ida driver, it works ifne except that I don't have > > any drives to install on. > > Oops, I forgot to mention; you can't install onto an 'ida' drive; you > need a system drive. You will want one anyway; swapping onto a RAID5 > array is a pretty lame idea. 8) > > -- > \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith > \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 1 16:53: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tower1.eicomm.net (tower1.eicomm.net [209.166.167.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5561415321 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 16:53:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jdetar@EIComm.net) Received: from JASON (dap-209-166-138-108.pm3-1.smds.gbg.pa.stargate.net [209.166.138.108]) by tower1.eicomm.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA40731 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 19:53:01 -0500 (EST) From: "Jason Detar" To: Subject: scsi negotiation problem... Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 19:54:45 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For some odd reason on one of my boxes the SCSI devices are coming up as scsi-3 40MB/sec instead of 80MB/sec Ultra 2/LVD. box2 it comes up ok... da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8748MB (17916240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1115C) but box3 has 2 hd's and comes up like this... da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 8748MB (17916240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1115C) da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8748MB (17916240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1115C) The HD's are identical, so is the SCSI card and setup for it all.. would the fact of it being 2 drive's causing this problem or what could it be? -- Jason Detar CEO @ EIComm.net MAIL: jdetar@eicomm.net PHONE: 724.423.8106 URL: http://www.eicomm.net/ - Elite Internet Communications - Welcome to the Elite. - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 1 20:45:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E57E415433 for ; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 20:45:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA41906; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:44:57 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from ken) Message-Id: <199911020444.VAA41906@panzer.kdm.org> Subject: Re: scsi negotiation problem... In-Reply-To: from Jason Detar at "Nov 1, 1999 07:54:45 pm" To: jdetar@EIComm.net (Jason Detar) Date: Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:44:57 -0700 (MST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Kenneth D. Merry" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [ It is generally best to send SCSI questions to the freebsd-scsi list ] Jason Detar wrote... > For some odd reason on one of my boxes the SCSI devices are coming up as > scsi-3 40MB/sec instead of 80MB/sec Ultra 2/LVD. > > box2 it comes up ok... > da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device > da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing > Enabled > da0: 8748MB (17916240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1115C) > > but box3 has 2 hd's and comes up like this... > da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 > da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device > da1: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing > Enabled > da1: 8748MB (17916240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1115C) > da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device > da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing > Enabled > da0: 8748MB (17916240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1115C) > > The HD's are identical, so is the SCSI card and setup for it all.. would the > fact of it being 2 drive's causing this problem or what could it be? There are a number of factors that can cause this problem: - many (most?) LVD drives have a jumper that forces single-ended negotiation. - controllers like the Adaptec 2940U2W, and many motherboards that have onboard 7890's have a wide LVD connector and a wide SE connector. If your drives are plugged into the wrong connector, your drives will negotiate at the lower single-ended rate. - the BIOS settings on the card could be wrong. Make sure that the card BIOS is setup to negotiate at LVD speeds. - you might have other single-ended devices on an LVD SCSI bus segment. If there are any single-ended devices on an LVD-capable bus, the entire bus will be single ended. Also, I'm not sure what would happen if your cable were incorrectly terminated. Make sure you've got a "twisty" LVD cable with a terminator block on the end. (LVD disks don't have on-board terminators.) Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Nov 1 21:57:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from finch-post-11.mail.demon.net (finch-post-11.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBCAC14F35; Mon, 1 Nov 1999 21:57:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from aw1@stade.co.uk) Received: from stade.demon.co.uk ([158.152.29.164]) by finch-post-11.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 11iWwZ-000JgC-0B; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 05:57:20 +0000 Received: from titus.stade.co.uk (titus.stade.co.uk [192.168.1.5]) by stade.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA32477; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 05:07:01 GMT (envelope-from aw1@titus.stade.co.uk) Received: (from aw1@localhost) by titus.stade.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA07738; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 05:00:42 GMT (envelope-from aw1) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 05:00:42 +0000 From: Adrian Wontroba To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: psmintr: out of sync? Message-ID: <19991102050042.B4565@titus.stade.co.uk> Reply-To: aw1@stade.co.uk References: <19991029102934.A21035@orion.ac.hmc.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.5i In-Reply-To: <19991029102934.A21035@orion.ac.hmc.edu>; from Brooks Davis on Fri, Oct 29, 1999 at 10:29:34AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE Organization: Yes, I need some of that. X-Phone: +(44) 121 681 6677 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Oct 29, 1999 at 10:29:34AM -0700, Brooks Davis wrote: > If you have a good smart switch you may be able to reset the mouse and > bring it back into sync. I've got a very dumb switch on one group of machines, where "killall -HUP moused" seems to work wonders. -- Adrian Wontroba To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 2 0:17:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from anon.lcs.mit.edu (anon.lcs.mit.edu [18.26.0.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A502B14BD3 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 00:17:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from serge69@nym.alias.net) Date: 2 Nov 1999 08:17:21 -0000 Message-ID: <19991102081721.26869.qmail@nym.alias.net> From: Sergey Subject: [Q] xl1: command never completed! To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello. I'm using 3.3-STABLE the system works normal, but once or twice a day I got this message: "xl1: command never completed!" Could someone be kind enough to explain the cause? Here is my dmesg.xl output: xl0: <3Com 3c905-TX Fast Etherlink XL> rev 0x00 int a irq 12 on pci0.10.0 xl0: autoneg complete, link status good (full-duplex, 100Mbps) xl1: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> rev 0x30 int a irq 10 on pci0.11.0 xl1: autoneg complete, link status good (half-duplex, 10Mbps) and here is xl driver version: if_xl.c,v 1.22.2.22 1999/10/20 18:19:25 Thanks in advance, Sergey. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 2 0:55: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4E4514CAD for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 00:54:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.040 #1) id 11iZiC-0000xb-00; Tue, 02 Nov 1999 10:54:40 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Sergey Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [Q] xl1: command never completed! In-reply-to: Your message of "02 Nov 1999 08:17:21 GMT." <19991102081721.26869.qmail@nym.alias.net> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 10:54:40 +0200 Message-ID: <3694.941532880@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 02 Nov 1999 08:17:21 GMT, Sergey wrote: > I'm using 3.3-STABLE the system works normal, but once or twice a day I got > this message: > "xl1: command never completed!" The xl(4) manpage answers your question. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 2 4: 5:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from norrgarden1.norrgarden.se (norrgarden1.norrgarden.se [195.100.133.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E06B014ED4 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 04:04:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cj@norrgarden1.norrgarden.se) Received: (from cj@localhost) by norrgarden1.norrgarden.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA09091 for stable@FreeBSD.org; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 13:04:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from cj) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 13:04:53 +0100 From: Carl Johan Madestrand To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: the xmms port fails to compile Message-ID: <19991102130453.A3956@norrgarden1.norrgarden.se> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi The XMMS port fails to compile, i remember it worked in 3.3 RELEASE. .. -I.. -DDATADIR=\"/usr/local/share/xmms\" -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -D_THREAD_SAFE -c gnomexmms.c gnomexmms.c:23: applet-widget.h: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Any ideas? Regards Carl Johan Madestrand To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 2 7:51: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from staff.accessus.net (staff.accessus.net [209.145.151.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB2DC1504A for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 07:50:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from doogie@staff.accessus.net) Received: by staff.accessus.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:50:50 -0600 Message-ID: From: Jason Young To: 'Alexandr Listopad' Cc: "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: HPT366 & FreeBSD 3.3 - please help!!! Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 09:50:46 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01BF254A.089F7EC2" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF254A.089F7EC2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I know that before we began supporting Ultra DMA on the HPT366, Soren Schmidt's new ATA driver (in the 4.x branch) would recognize that controller as a standard IDE controller. After the support went in it was supported properly. I actually have no idea what the old IDE driver will make of this controller. The old IDE driver is the only one available in 3.x. Hopefully somebody on the stable list will know more, I'm CCing my reply there. -----Original Message----- From: Alexandr Listopad [mailto:laa@ZGIA.zp.ua] Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 11:04 AM To: doogie@anet-stl.com Subject: HPT366 & FreeBSD 3.3 - please help!!! Hi! I find your e-mail in the FreeBSD mailarch. Sorry if I disturb you... I have a Abit MB with HPT366 Ultra DMA Controller, but can not install FreeBSD on my machine. Please help me! When I boot from 2 floppies new kernel uanble to get this controller. Please, help.... Sorry for my English, I'm from Ukraine... Regards, Listopad Alexandr (laa@zgia.zp.ua), LAA7-RIPE ZGIA, Zaporozhye, Ukraine. http://www.zgia.zp.ua. ------_=_NextPart_001_01BF254A.089F7EC2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: HPT366 & FreeBSD 3.3 - please help!!!

I know that before we began supporting Ultra DMA on = the HPT366, Soren Schmidt's new ATA driver (in the 4.x branch) would = recognize that controller as a standard IDE controller. After the = support went in it was supported properly.

I actually have no idea what the old IDE driver will = make of this controller. The old IDE driver is the only one available = in 3.x. Hopefully somebody on the stable list will know more, I'm CCing = my reply there.

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandr Listopad [mailto:laa@ZGIA.zp.ua]
Sent: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 11:04 AM
To: doogie@anet-stl.com
Subject: HPT366 & FreeBSD 3.3 - please = help!!!


Hi!

I find your e-mail in the FreeBSD mailarch. Sorry if = I disturb you...

I have a Abit MB with HPT366 Ultra DMA Controller, = but can not install
FreeBSD on my machine. Please help me!

When I boot from 2 floppies new kernel uanble to get = this controller.

Please, help....

Sorry for my English, I'm from Ukraine...

Regards,
  Listopad Alexandr
  (laa@zgia.zp.ua), LAA7-RIPE
  ZGIA, Zaporozhye, Ukraine.
  http://www.zgia.zp.ua.

------_=_NextPart_001_01BF254A.089F7EC2-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 2 10:57:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.loeth.dk (mail.kolind-heise.dk [194.192.218.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 98B1A14CE8; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 10:57:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jan@osterskov.dk) Received: from BART.SIMPSON.NET ([172.29.27.102]) by mail.loeth.dk (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id RAA04115; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 17:50:40 +0100 (CET) From: Jan Østerskov To: Mike Smith , Scott Benjamin Subject: Re: IDA driver issues upon installation. Probing devices hangs Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 19:57:40 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <199911020023.QAA00513@dingo.cdrom.com> In-Reply-To: <199911020023.QAA00513@dingo.cdrom.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99110219582601.37369@BART.SIMPSON.NET> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 02 Nov 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > None of the interested developers have access to one of these machines > anymore; it's quite possible that things have been changed or broken > to some degree of late. > > > I am trying to install the stable snapshot from 10301999 on a compaq > > proliant 4500 with a smart array controller. I recompile the installation > > -- > \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith > \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > I also have a problem with the probing of devices. When ida0 is in the kernel it can't probe any IDE devices (read CD's) A month ago - Current was able to do so I have adressed this problem befor but the only answer i got was to disable the wdc controller. I did, but it is hardly the solution in the long run ?? Can anyone help ?? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 2 11: 7:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (osmium.gn.iaf.nl [193.67.144.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8248F1504E for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 11:07:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko@yedi.iaf.nl) Received: from yedi.iaf.nl (uucp@localhost) by uni4nn.gn.iaf.nl (8.9.2/8.9.2) with UUCP id TAA23137; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 19:50:37 +0100 (MET) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by yedi.iaf.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA01123; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 18:48:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wilko) From: Wilko Bulte Message-Id: <199911021748.SAA01123@yedi.iaf.nl> Subject: Re: scsi negotiation problem... In-Reply-To: from Jason Detar at "Nov 1, 1999 7:54:45 pm" To: jdetar@EIComm.net (Jason Detar) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 18:48:38 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Organisation: Private FreeBSD site - Arnhem, The Netherlands X-pgp-info: PGP public key at 'finger wilko@freefall.freebsd.org' X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As Jason Detar wrote ... > For some odd reason on one of my boxes the SCSI devices are coming up as > scsi-3 40MB/sec instead of 80MB/sec Ultra 2/LVD. You do have a LVD terminator do you? If you use a SE terminator they fall back to Ultra speeds. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands - Powered by FreeBSD - |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte WWW : http://www.tcja.nl http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 2 12:22:25 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (penguin-ext.wise.edt.ericsson.se [194.237.142.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 628E4152A9 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 12:22:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from usenet@erix.ericsson.se) Received: from super.du.uab.ericsson.se (root@super.du.uab.ericsson.se [134.138.176.16]) by penguin.wise.edt.ericsson.se (8.9.3/8.9.3/WIREfire-1.5) with ESMTP id VAA19472 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 21:22:16 +0100 (MET) Received: from news.du.uab.ericsson.se (news [134.138.176.24]) by super.du.uab.ericsson.se (8.9.3/8.9.3/erix-1.7) with ESMTP id VAA01742 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 21:22:16 +0100 (MET) Received: (from news@localhost) by news.du.uab.ericsson.se (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1/news-1.1) id VAA11320 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 21:22:15 +0100 (MET) Received: from GATEWAY by news with netnews for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org (freebsd-stable@freebsd.org) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: 02 Nov 1999 21:22:13 +0100 From: Kent Boortz Message-ID: Organization: Ericsson Telecom AB, Stockholm, Sweden Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <813A3F0E2D02D211884900A0C966731EEC3DFA@exchsrvr.inficad.com>, <14362.7325.329646.366820@hip186.ch.intel.com> Subject: Re: SoundBlaster 128 PCI in 3.2 Stable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have the old chip set but there are patches for the new one at ftp://ftp.thebarn.com/FreeBSD/es1371/ Also read http://x35.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=540222133 http://x35.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=540375012 http://x35.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=539474778 An owner of the Ensoniq brand seem to use another solution. I don't know if this solution work with the SB PCI128 http://x35.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=536683125 http://x35.deja.com/getdoc.xp?AN=536684247 kent To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 2 13:51: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from venus.GAIANET.NET (venus.GAIANET.NET [207.211.200.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33AE81544D for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 13:51:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Received: from localhost (vince@localhost) by venus.GAIANET.NET (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA23412; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 13:49:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vince@venus.GAIANET.NET) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 13:49:36 -0800 (PST) From: Vincent Poy To: Jason Young Cc: "'Alexandr Listopad'" , "'freebsd-stable@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: HPT366 & FreeBSD 3.3 - please help!!! In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 2 Nov 1999, Jason Young wrote: > > I know that before we began supporting Ultra DMA on the HPT366, Soren > Schmidt's new ATA driver (in the 4.x branch) would recognize that controller > as a standard IDE controller. After the support went in it was supported > properly. > > I actually have no idea what the old IDE driver will make of this > controller. The old IDE driver is the only one available in 3.x. Hopefully > somebody on the stable list will know more, I'm CCing my reply there. Which HPT366 controller and motherboard are you guys using? ABIT did release some new BIOSes recently.... The current is the October 1999 BIOS version MU with HPT366 v1.21 BIOS. Cheers, Vince - vince@MCESTATE.COM - vince@GAIANET.NET ________ __ ____ Unix Networking Operations - FreeBSD-Real Unix for Free / / / / | / |[__ ] GaiaNet Corporation - M & C Estate / / / / | / | __] ] Beverly Hills, California USA 90210 / / / / / |/ / | __] ] HongKong Stars/Gravis UltraSound Mailing Lists Admin /_/_/_/_/|___/|_|[____] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 2 16:16:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nomis.simon-shapiro.org (nomis.simon-shapiro.org [209.86.126.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3E926152FD for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 16:16:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shimon@simon-shapiro.org) Received: (qmail 74884 invoked from network); 3 Nov 1999 00:16:35 -0000 Received: from localhost.simon-shapiro.org (HELO simon-shapiro.org) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.simon-shapiro.org with SMTP; 3 Nov 1999 00:16:35 -0000 Message-ID: <381F7EE3.E8465C63@simon-shapiro.org> Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 19:16:35 -0500 From: Simon Shapiro Organization: Simon's Garage X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: SMP panic Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Given: * Dell Poweredge 1300/600 with 1024MB or RAM * RELENG_3 as of 1730 EDT * Config with: options "VM86" options SMP options APIC_IO options NCPU=4 options NBUS=6 options NAPIC=2 options NINTR=48 What does this panic mean? atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard atkbd0 irq 1 on isa psm0 not found panic: rslock: cpu: 0, addr: 0xc032c5c0, lock: 0x00000001 mp_lock = 00000001; cpuid = 0; lapic.id = 01000000 Debugger("panic") Stopped at Debugger+0x37: movl $0,in_Debugger db> trace Debugger(c0289db6) at Debugger+0x37 panic(c02490f9,0,c032c5c0,1,c02601e7) at panic+0xa4 bsl1(c02e66c0,c02e66c0,c02e7e54,39d000,0) at bsl1 config_isadev_c(c02e66c0,c02db7e8,0,c0395f90,c025bee4) at config_isadev_c+0x8e config_isadev(c02e66c0,c02db7e8) at config_isadev+0x10 isa_configure(c0395fac,c0158993,0,393c00,39d000) at isa_configure+0x120 configure(0) at configure+0x20 main(c0395fb8,c016f909,c0403000,2000,2000) at main+0x83 begin() at begin+0x55 -- Sincerely Yours, Shimon@Simon-Shapiro.ORG 404.664.6401 Simon Shapiro Unwritten code has no bugs and executes at twice the speed of mouth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 2 17:51:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (dynamic-15.max1-du-ws.dialnetwork.pavilion.co.uk [212.74.8.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A58214D50 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 17:51:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA03533; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 01:51:39 GMT (envelope-from brian@lan.awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA00326; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 06:57:48 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199911020657.GAA00326@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.0 09/18/1999 To: Adrian Penisoara Cc: Brian Somers , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org, brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: MP downliks problem (was Re: PPP dying with signal 10) In-Reply-To: Message from Adrian Penisoara of "Mon, 01 Nov 1999 20:20:18 +0200." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 02 Nov 1999 06:57:48 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Hi again, > > On Fri, 29 Oct 1999, Adrian Penisoara wrote: > > > > I think I'm misunderstanding at least some of the problem. I'm > > > assuming the following: You have a two-link ppp session with ppp(8) > > > running in -direct mode. > > > > Correct up to here... > > > > You then reset both modems and ppp exits. > > > The client dials again (twice) and has problems establishing the > > > connection because no ``replies'' are sent by one side or the other. > > > > Nope: On one end the carriers on both links go down (for example a wire > > cut) and then the links is reestablished but almost no packets get sent > > through. This is fixed only with a 'down' at the control prompt. > > Just to let you know: I've implemented another multilink in the same > configuration with MPD ver. 2.0b2 from Whistle Communications (net/mpd > from ports) and everything works smooth (no problems when links go down, > even when simultaneously -- everything goes back to normal when links get > back online). > > I haven't got yet a chance to closely trace the problem, I've resorted to > a workaround: sending a "down" with pppctl every half an hour. I know it's > pretty dumb but at least it saves me from a lot of nerves; still this is > not 100% reliable. > > How exactly can I help you trace this nasty bug ? I think we need a log to start with - say set log phase lcp ipcp chat command tcp/ip This should let us know if ppp thinks it's having any difficulties. > Ady (@warpnet.ro) Cheers. -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Nov 2 22:16:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CFC515403 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 22:16:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA68559 for ; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 23:16:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: (from imp@localhost) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) id XAA18084 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 2 Nov 1999 23:19:06 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 2 Nov 1999 23:19:06 -0700 (MST) From: Warner Losh Message-Id: <199911030619.XAA18084@harmony.village.org> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Intel EtherExpress Pro/10+ on -stable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've had 0 luck getting my Intel EtherExpress PRO/10+ working on my 3.3-stable system. It never seems to get interrupts. I've disabled plug and play, and have tried it at two differend IRQs, which I set with the softset2 program that came with my etherpro 10+ (version 3.5). Has anybody managed to make one of these work in a -stable system? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 3 1:29: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pinky.plambert.net (pinky.plambert.net [205.219.88.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2E5A15613 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 01:29:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from plambert@pinky.plambert.net) Received: (from plambert@localhost) by pinky.plambert.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA08030 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 01:29:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from plambert) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 01:29:02 -0800 From: "Paul M . Lambert" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: CD with unknown contents. Message-ID: <19991103012902.A791@pinky.plambert.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've got a CD I'd like to look at with my FreeBSD box, but it's not very normal. Specifically, it's the CD from the 1999 Open Source conference. I know it has an HFS partition on it among others, but am unable to get any kind of reasonable info from it. Here's what disklabel says: root# disklabel cd0 # /dev/rcd0c: type: SCSI disk: MATSHITA label: CD-ROM CR-8005 flags: removeable bytes/sector: 2048 sectors/track: 32 tracks/cylinder: 64 sectors/cylinder: 2048 cylinders: 46 sectors/unit: 94304 rpm: 3600 interleave: 1 trackskew: 0 cylinderskew: 0 headswitch: 0 # milliseconds track-to-track seek: 0 # milliseconds drivedata: 0 8 partitions: # size offset fstype [fsize bsize bps/cpg] a: 94304 0 unknown # (Cyl. 0 - 46*) c: 94304 0 unused 0 0 # (Cyl. 0 - 46*) Here's what fdisk says: root# fdisk /dev/rcd0c ******* Working on device /dev/rcd0c ******* parameters extracted from in-core disklabel are: cylinders=46 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl) parameters to be used for BIOS calculations are: cylinders=46 heads=64 sectors/track=32 (2048 blks/cyl) fdisk: invalid fdisk partition table found Media sector size is 2048 Warning: BIOS sector numbering starts with sector 1 Information from DOS bootblock is: The data for partition 1 is: The data for partition 2 is: The data for partition 3 is: The data for partition 4 is: sysid 165,(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD) start 1, size 94207 (183 Meg), flag 80 (active) beg: cyl 0/ sector 2/ head 0; end: cyl 45/ sector 32/ head 63 This last thing intrigues me. Does this suggest that there is a UFS partition on this CD? Or is it just random garbage in a partition table that FreeBSD doesn't understand? Enquiring minds want to know. I'd really like to get access to this disk. Worst case, I can use hfsutils' xhfs to copy everything out. But that's not really what I'd like to do. It'd be nice to have the real thing, right? --plambert -- I hate bombs, terrorism, fear, plans, future and past injustices, manifestos, popular sentiment, ignition, timetables, meetings, and poorly adjusted weasels. A warm hello to my friends and fans in domestic surveillance! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 3 1:52:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.desktop.com (mail.desktop.com [166.90.128.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0733414E66 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 01:52:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from clark@desktop.com) Received: (from clark@localhost) by ns.desktop.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id BAA58934 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 01:52:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from clark) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 01:52:12 -0800 From: Clark Shishido To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CD with unknown contents. Message-ID: <19991103015212.B58628@desktop.com> References: <19991103012902.A791@pinky.plambert.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: <19991103012902.A791@pinky.plambert.net>; from Paul M . Lambert on Wed, Nov 03, 1999 at 01:29:02AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Nov 03, 1999 at 01:29:02AM -0800, Paul M . Lambert emailed: > I've got a CD I'd like to look at with my FreeBSD box, but it's not > very normal. > > Specifically, it's the CD from the 1999 Open Source conference. I know > it has an HFS partition on it among others, but am unable to get any > kind of reasonable info from it. > I remember reading somewhere that the CD is HFS+ not HFS so hfsutils probably won't work. Direct quote from Wilfredo Sanchez? Unless you have a PowerPC Mac running MacOS 8, you may have to wait for some cross-fertilization from Darwin, aka AppleBSD. If you don't have a Mac, I'll be more than happy to let you know what's on it. --clark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 3 2: 4:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pinky.plambert.net (pinky.plambert.net [205.219.88.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 485C414F51 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 02:04:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from plambert@pinky.plambert.net) Received: (from plambert@localhost) by pinky.plambert.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA09576; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 02:01:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from plambert) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 02:01:57 -0800 From: "Paul M . Lambert" To: Clark Shishido Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD with unknown contents. Message-ID: <19991103020157.B791@pinky.plambert.net> References: <19991103012902.A791@pinky.plambert.net> <19991103015212.B58628@desktop.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <19991103015212.B58628@desktop.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I appreciate the replies I have received so far. I'm afraid I wasn't very clear. This is the conference proceedings CD that everyone received at the O'Reilly Open Source Conference in Monterey a few months ago. (a.k.a. the Perl Conference). Much of the same content is available at http://conference.oreilly.com/cd/ but I'd like to look at this CD. I can mount it just fine on my PowerMac, and it reports it as an HFS partition. I can't imagine, though, that the CD handed out by O'Reilly would _only_ contain an HFS partition, 'eh? xhfs sees it just fine. I've actually successfully copied the data from it to my FreeBSD box with xhfs. However, I'm still curious: how would I tell what partitions are on this CD from FreeBSD? It claims it is not a cd9660 filesystem, which is at least partially right, since the Mac sees an HFS filesystem. But what if there're multiple filesystems? How can I get FreeBSD to mount one of the other partitions? Enquiring minds want to know! --Paul M. Lambert On Wed, 03 Nov 1999, Clark Shishido wrote: > On Wed, Nov 03, 1999 at 01:29:02AM -0800, Paul M . Lambert emailed: > > I've got a CD I'd like to look at with my FreeBSD box, but it's not > > very normal. > > > > Specifically, it's the CD from the 1999 Open Source conference. I know > > it has an HFS partition on it among others, but am unable to get any > > kind of reasonable info from it. > > > > I remember reading somewhere that the CD is HFS+ not HFS so hfsutils probably won't work. Direct quote from Wilfredo Sanchez? > > Unless you have a PowerPC Mac running MacOS 8, you may have to wait for some cross-fertilization from Darwin, aka AppleBSD. > > If you don't have a Mac, I'll be more than happy to let you know what's on it. > > --clark > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- I hate bombs, terrorism, fear, plans, future and past injustices, manifestos, popular sentiment, ignition, timetables, meetings, and poorly adjusted weasels. A warm hello to my friends and fans in domestic surveillance! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 3 8: 7:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from orion.interlink.net.ua (gw.interlink.net.ua [212.68.161.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDE4B1558C for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:07:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alex@orion.interlink.net.ua) Received: (from alex@localhost) by orion.interlink.net.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA05913 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 18:06:55 +0200 (EET) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 18:06:55 +0200 (EET) From: Alexander Ignatyev Message-Id: <199911031606.SAA05913@orion.interlink.net.ua> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: unsubscribe Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG unsubscribe alex@stone.mia.gov.ua To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 3 8: 8:18 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from stella.interlink.net.ua (kpi.interlink.net.ua [212.68.162.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2362015635 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 08:07:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from alex@stella.interlink.net.ua) Received: (from alex@localhost) by stella.interlink.net.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA23778 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 18:07:34 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from alex) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 18:07:34 +0200 (EET) From: alex@stella.interlink.net.ua Message-Id: <199911031607.SAA23778@stella.interlink.net.ua> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: subscribe Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 3 9: 4: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shiva.jussieu.fr (shiva.jussieu.fr [134.157.0.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 680B615103 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:03:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr) Received: from parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.1]) by shiva.jussieu.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.2) with ESMTP id SAA83594 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 18:03:34 +0100 (CET) Received: from niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr [134.157.10.41]) by parthe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.1a/jtpda-5.3.1) with ESMTP id SAA05853 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 18:03:33 +0100 (MET) Received: from (talon@localhost) by niobe.lpthe.jussieu.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id SAA72458 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 18:03:33 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 18:03:33 +0100 From: Michel TALON To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: init Message-ID: <19991103180333.A72444@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a strange problem with respect to kill -HUP 1 In fact i have commented out mgetty on /dev/cuaa1 in /etc/ttys and run kill -HUP 1 in order to reload ttys. Even if i do killall mgetty this program is still continually respawned. It seems that init does not reload ttys when receiving HUP, contrary to what man page says and what is usual. Is this a known bug I am running FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE #0: Mon Sep 20 Moreover i have a second problem related to this one. I wanted to test a modem (of rockwell type) under ppp. When i issue term at the ppp prompt, the modem seems irresponsive. For example atz gives nothing. However under minicomm the modem correctly answers the at commands and dials. Finally i have another modem (US robotics sportster) which works correctly under ppp. I thought that the modem was confused by mgetty, so tried to disable it and found the above strange behaviour. I would be happy to get some help. Thanks -- Michel TALON To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 3 9:23:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 900CF155D6 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:23:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@wintelcom.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA12335; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:46:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:46:53 -0800 (PST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Michel TALON Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: init In-Reply-To: <19991103180333.A72444@lpthe.jussieu.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, Michel TALON wrote: > I have a strange problem with respect to kill -HUP 1 > In fact i have commented out mgetty on /dev/cuaa1 in /etc/ttys > and run kill -HUP 1 in order to reload ttys. Even if i do > killall mgetty this program is still continually respawned. > It seems that init does not reload ttys when receiving HUP, > contrary to what man page says and what is usual. Is this a known bug > I am running > FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE #0: Mon Sep 20 Don't comment them out, set them to 'off' otherwise init can forget about them. > Moreover i have a second problem related to this one. I wanted to test > a modem (of rockwell type) under ppp. When i issue term at the > ppp prompt, the modem seems irresponsive. For example atz gives nothing. > However under minicomm the modem correctly answers the at commands > and dials. Finally i have another modem (US robotics sportster) which > works correctly under ppp. I thought that the modem was confused > by mgetty, so tried to disable it and found the above strange behaviour. > I would be happy to get some help. Hopefully the above will help. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 3 9:30:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.desktop.com (mail.desktop.com [166.90.128.242]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46F7015703 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:30:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from clark@desktop.com) Received: from [192.168.1.42] (jumpgate.desktop.com [166.90.128.243]) by ns.desktop.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id JAA63804; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:30:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from clark@desktop.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: clark@mail.desktop.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <19991103020157.B791@pinky.plambert.net> References: <19991103012902.A791@pinky.plambert.net> <19991103015212.B58628@desktop.com> <19991103020157.B791@pinky.plambert.net> Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:30:15 -0800 To: "Paul M . Lambert" From: Clark Shishido Subject: Re: CD with unknown contents. Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 2:01 -0800 19991103, Paul M . Lambert wrote: >I appreciate the replies I have received so far. I'm afraid I wasn't >very clear. > >This is the conference proceedings CD that everyone received at the >O'Reilly Open Source Conference in Monterey a few months ago. (a.k.a. >the Perl Conference). I was mistaken too; I should never read email while half-asleep. But since it was hfs related I thought I could help. The CD I was thinking of was the Darwin CD given out at FreeBSD Con. How about another workaround? Sounds like you already tried mounting it as a cd9660 filesystem. But have you tried mounting it as a DOS partition? I can't imagine someone burning a CD without 9660 or DOS partitions. --clark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 3 9:31:48 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jason.argos.org (a13b146.neo.rr.com [204.210.197.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87162155EC for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:31:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@argos.org) Received: from localhost (mike@localhost) by jason.argos.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA10775; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:30:49 -0500 Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:30:49 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Nowlin To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: Michel TALON , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: init In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Moreover i have a second problem related to this one. I wanted to test > > a modem (of rockwell type) under ppp. When i issue term at the > > ppp prompt, the modem seems irresponsive. For example atz gives nothing. > > However under minicomm the modem correctly answers the at commands > > and dials. Finally i have another modem (US robotics sportster) which > > works correctly under ppp. I thought that the modem was confused > > by mgetty, so tried to disable it and found the above strange behaviour. > > I would be happy to get some help. A lot of times, this is a pretty simple problem -- the modem may have been told to behave this way by default, and minicom's init stuff overrides it... If echo & response codes are turned off in the modem, it'll do this -- try ATE1Q0 from ppp->term and see what happens. mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 3 9:41:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (sol.cc.u-szeged.hu [160.114.8.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6297C154C6 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 09:41:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (8.9.1b+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id SAA12444; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 18:39:36 +0100 (MET) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local-smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 11j4aY-00088n-00; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 18:52:50 +0100 Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 18:52:50 +0100 (CET) From: Adam Szilveszter To: Clark Shishido Cc: "Paul M . Lambert" , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: CD with unknown contents. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, Clark Shishido wrote: > At 2:01 -0800 19991103, Paul M . Lambert wrote: > >I appreciate the replies I have received so far. I'm afraid I wasn't > >very clear. > > > >This is the conference proceedings CD that everyone received at the > >O'Reilly Open Source Conference in Monterey a few months ago. (a.k.a. > >the Perl Conference). > > I was mistaken too; I should never read email while half-asleep. But > since it was hfs related I thought I could help. The CD I was > thinking of was the Darwin CD given out at FreeBSD Con. > > How about another workaround? > Sounds like you already tried mounting it as a cd9660 filesystem. But > have you tried mounting it as a DOS partition? I can't imagine > someone burning a CD without 9660 or DOS partitions. And how about mounting it as ufs? I do not know but I think there is nothing to prevent you from burning a CD with UFS if you like, unless I am mistaken... Regards: Szilveszter ADAM ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Adam Szilveszter * JATE Szeged * email: sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu * * Homepage : none * alternate email: cc@flanker.itl.net.ua * * Finger sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu for PGP key. * * I prefer using the door instead of Windows(tm)... * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 3 10:23: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from misha.cisco.com (misha.cisco.com [171.69.206.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D63C1581B for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 10:22:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mi@misha.cisco.com) Received: (from mi@localhost) by misha.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA45292; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:21:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mi) Message-Id: <199911031821.NAA45292@misha.cisco.com> Subject: Re: init In-Reply-To: <19991103180333.A72444@lpthe.jussieu.fr> from Michel TALON at "Nov 3, 1999 06:03:33 pm" To: Michel TALON Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 13:21:50 -0500 (EST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: mi@aldan.algebra.com From: Mikhail Teterin X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL60 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Michel TALON once wrote: > It seems that init does not reload ttys when receiving HUP, contrary > to what man page says and what is usual. Is this a known bug I am > running FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE #0: Mon Sep 20 Instead of commenting the line out, change the `on' to `off' in the line. IMHO, this is a bug in init. -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 3 12: 5:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.telestream.com (mail.telestream.com [205.238.4.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A31B15640 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:04:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keith@mail.telestream.com) Received: from localhost (keith@localhost) by mail.telestream.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA28154 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:07:03 -0800 Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:07:03 -0800 (PST) From: To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: subscribe Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable@freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 3 12:41:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pinky.plambert.net (pinky.plambert.net [205.219.88.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07EEC14F04 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:40:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from plambert@pinky.plambert.net) Received: (from plambert@localhost) by pinky.plambert.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA31056 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:40:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from plambert) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 12:40:50 -0800 From: "Paul M . Lambert" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: CD with unknown contents. Message-ID: <19991103124050.A30649@pinky.plambert.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 03 Nov 1999, Adam Szilveszter wrote: > > And how about mounting it as ufs? I do not know but I think there is > nothing to prevent you from burning a CD with UFS if you like, unless I am > mistaken... > I tried both UFS and msdos. They both fail. I'm not at the box at the moment, so I can't put the cd in, but I'll try to get them to fail again and send the output. I've given up and used xhfs to copy the files from the hfs partition. It'd _still_ be nice to mount it for real... --plambert -- I hate bombs, terrorism, fear, plans, future and past injustices, manifestos, popular sentiment, ignition, timetables, meetings, and poorly adjusted weasels. A warm hello to my friends and fans in domestic surveillance! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 3 14:12:24 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from Post-Office.UH.EDU (Post-Office.UH.EDU [129.7.1.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A128152D8 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:12:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zdenko@CS.UH.EDU) Received: from CS.UH.EDU (zeus.cs.uh.edu [129.7.192.1]) by Post-Office.UH.EDU (PMDF V5.2-32 #40812) with SMTP id <0FKN002O76QROU@Post-Office.UH.EDU> for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 16:06:28 -0600 (CST) Received: from blackbird.CS.UH.EDU by CS.UH.EDU (COSC/UH-zeus) id AA13770; Wed, 03 Nov 1999 16:06:25 -0600 (CST) Received: by blackbird.CS.UH.EDU (4.1/UH-4.1) id AA02463; Wed, 03 Nov 1999 16:07:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 03 Nov 1999 16:06:25 -0600 (CST) From: Zdenko Tomasic Subject: Re: init In-reply-to: <19991103180333.A72444@lpthe.jussieu.fr> To: talon@lpthe.jussieu.fr Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: zdenko@CS.UH.EDU Message-id: <9911032206.AA13770@CS.UH.EDU> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG chances are that your mgetty does not find working modem, so it exits. look at your log file /var/log/mgetty.cuaa1, it should be growing :-)). until you figure out how to get modem working, you should comment out mgetty entry in /etc/ttys as init is constantly trying to restart mgetty which constantly exits :-(( ZT To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 3 14:40:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA6D81510E for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 14:40:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.0.4] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.032 #1) id 11j6pz-000CY4-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 03 Nov 1999 20:16:55 +0000 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.032 #1) id 11j6pz-00008s-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 03 Nov 1999 20:16:55 +0000 Date: Wed, 3 Nov 1999 20:16:55 +0000 From: Ben Smithurst To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: panic from ffs_write Message-ID: <19991103201655.A492@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.6i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG To cut a long story short, the panic seems to have originated at this point: (kgdb) frame 14 #14 0xc01735e3 in ffs_write (ap=0xc4d24ec8) at ../../ufs/ufs/ufs_readwrite.c:411 411 if (uio->uio_offset < 0 || (kgdb) l 406 default: 407 panic("%s: type", WRITE_S); 408 } 409 410 fs = ip->I_FS; 411 if (uio->uio_offset < 0 || 412 (u_int64_t)uio->uio_offset + uio->uio_resid > fs->fs_maxfilesize) { 413 if (object) 414 vm_object_vndeallocate(object); 415 return (EFBIG); (kgdb) print fs $1 = (struct fs *) 0x0 (kgdb) Any idea how this could have happened? Any hints about where I should start looking for the cause of this? -- Ben Smithurst | PGP: 0x99392F7D ben@scientia.demon.co.uk | key available from keyservers and | ben+pgp@scientia.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 3 15:37:58 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.infologigruppen.se (ns2.infologigruppen.se [212.214.163.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 863A11510E for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:37:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Goran.Lowkrantz@infologigruppen.se) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns2.infologigruppen.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA13964 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 00:37:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Goran.Lowkrantz@infologigruppen.se) Received: from valhall.ign.se(192.168.3.1) via SMTP by bifrost-net.ign.se, id smtpdm13962; Thu Nov 4 00:37:14 1999 Received: by valhall.ign.se with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 00:37:14 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Lowkrantz, Goran" To: "'stable@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: uu_lock semantics Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 00:37:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG System: 3.3-STABLE FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE #1: Wed Nov 3 06:36:59 CET 1999 Two questions about uu_lock that have surfaced during a test. 1- Should a second call to uu_lock for the same resource from the same process without a call to uu_unlock between them return "UU_LOCK_INUSE: The lock is in use by another process.", because that is what I get. 2- I assume that uu_lock should be called before first open and uu_unlock after last close, as open and close have no connection to the lock handling. Is this true? Regarding question 1, I understand why it should be so, but I think this could be documented on the man-page, as it's easy to assume recursive locks. Cheers, GLZ --- Goran Lowkrantz Email : goran.lowkrantz@infologigruppen.se Infologigruppen Alfa AB Telephone: Nat 070-587 8782 Fax: Nat 070-615 8782 Box 202 Int +46 70-587 8782 Int +46 70-615 8782 941 25 Pitea, Sweden To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 3 15:59: 6 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de [139.174.243.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C4B51569C for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 15:58:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) id AAA05659 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 00:58:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olli) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 00:58:55 +0100 (CET) From: Oliver Fromme Message-Id: <199911032358.AAA05659@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: VLAN support in -stable? Organization: Administration Heim 3 Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 RZTUC(3) PL2] Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm asking this question on behalf of someone else who cannot read/write the mailing list. I don't know anything about VLANS myself. Somehow, VLANs seem to be only half-supported in -stable. The kernel support is there since 3.2, but the options are missing from ifconfig, and the vlan(4) manpage is missing, too (which is referenced from several other manpages, e.g. ti(4)). Is this intentional? Apparently, it works fine if ifconfig is patched with the appropriate code from current. Is the VLAN code in -stable actually considered "stable"? If "no", then why is the code in -stable since 3.2? If "yes", then why is the ifconfig support missing? I can't believe that someone just forgot to MFC it... (BTW: The VLAN support is needed for a production machine, so running -current is not really an option.) Regards Oliver -- Oliver Fromme, Leibnizstr. 18/61, 38678 Clausthal, Germany (Info: finger userinfo:olli@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de) "In jedem Stück Kohle wartet ein Diamant auf seine Geburt" (Terry Pratchett) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 3 18:59:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from public.bta.net.cn (public.bta.net.cn [202.96.0.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D15214D28 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 18:58:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robinson@netrinsics.com) Received: from netrinsics.com ([202.106.172.230]) by public.bta.net.cn (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00055 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:52:31 +0800 (CST) Received: (from robinson@localhost) by netrinsics.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id KAA02548 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:59:00 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from robinson) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:59:00 +0800 (CST) From: Michael Robinson Message-Id: <199911040259.KAA02548@netrinsics.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VLAN support in -stable? In-Reply-To: <199911032358.AAA05659@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >(BTW: The VLAN support is needed for a production machine, so >running -current is not really an option.) I use pipsecd (you can find it in the ports collection). It's fantastic. No complaints. No worries. It just works. It even works with dial-on-demand ppp connections with floating ip addresses (you need at least one hub in the VLAN with a fixed IP address). It's also firewall-friendly: pass esp packets and block everything else; you'll never need SSH again. -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 3 19: 3:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from public.bta.net.cn (public.bta.net.cn [202.96.0.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F0DB14D5F for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 19:03:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robinson@netrinsics.com) Received: from netrinsics.com ([202.106.172.230]) by public.bta.net.cn (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA01274 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:55:52 +0800 (CST) Received: (from robinson@localhost) by netrinsics.com (8.9.3/8.8.7) id LAA02574 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 11:02:20 +0800 (CST) (envelope-from robinson) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 11:02:20 +0800 (CST) From: Michael Robinson Message-Id: <199911040302.LAA02574@netrinsics.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: VLAN support in -stable? In-Reply-To: <199911032358.AAA05659@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sorry. Brain fart. I was thinking VPN. Nevermind. -Michael Robinson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Nov 3 21:49:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from math.uic.edu (galois.math.uic.edu [131.193.178.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3995E15532 for ; Wed, 3 Nov 1999 21:49:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vladimir-bsd-stable@math.uic.edu) Received: (qmail 3975 invoked by uid 31415); 4 Nov 1999 05:48:29 -0000 Date: 4 Nov 1999 05:48:29 -0000 Message-ID: <19991104054829.3974.qmail@math.uic.edu> From: vladimir-bsd-stable@math.uic.edu To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: nfs problems Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear -STABLE Users, Can anyone please explain this: We have a FBSD-3.3 NFS server serving files to a Solaris 7 NFS client (galois.math.uic.edu). Here is /etc/exports on a BSD machine: /export/2 -network 131.193.180 -mask 255.255.255.0 /export/2 -network 131.193.179 -mask 255.255.255.0 /export/2 -network 131.193.178 -mask 255.255.255.0 galois.math.uic.edu is on 131.193.178 subnet. export/2 is mounted on a solaris machine under /home/2. The mode on /home/2/vladimir is 711: $ ls -ld /home/2/vladimir drwx--x--x 30 vladimir 4096 Nov 3 23:29 /home/2/vladimir However, root on galois is able to list files in /home/2/vladimir. This is not the case when I mount a directory from a solaris NFS server: directories with mode 711 cannot be listed. Also, we have 2 linux machines (with different kernel versions) mounting directories from the same FBSD server -- on one of them root is able to list directories, on the other one attempt to list directories that have mode 711 produces "Operation not permitted" message. This doesn't make any sense to me. Thanks for any explanations! Vladimir vladimir@math.uic.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 4 0:22:12 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47E8C14CE0 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 00:22:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11jI8U-000HUf-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 04 Nov 1999 00:20:46 -0800 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: easyboot far into disk Message-Id: Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 00:20:46 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG on a 13gb win98 system, i wanted a bit of bsd. so i installed win98 in 10gb and freebsd in the last 3gb, and choose easyboot. at boot, when i select f2 pertition, i get a beep. is it the >1024 cyl thingie? wazza fix? it is already lba. randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 4 0:47: 5 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles505.castles.com [208.214.165.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBE1155A5 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 00:47:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA00488; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 00:36:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199911040836.AAA00488@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Randy Bush Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Nov 1999 00:20:46 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 00:36:21 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > on a 13gb win98 system, i wanted a bit of bsd. so i installed win98 in 10gb > and freebsd in the last 3gb, and choose easyboot. at boot, when i select f2 > pertition, i get a beep. is it the >1024 cyl thingie? wazza fix? it is > already lba. "Chose easyboot"? Here's the best fix: - Boot the install floppy. When the little spinning widget appears and stops, hit the spacebar. At the 'boot:" prompt, type wd(0,a)/boot/loader This should get the loader off the disk OK, and boot you fine. - Once you're up and running, read the manpage for boot0inst. You want to install boot0 on wd0, and enable the 'packet' option. This should get you going. All of the FreeBSD boot path apart from boot0 seems to work just fine > 1024 cylinders. I haven't personally tested over the 8GB mark though. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 4 0:59:34 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from razor.kaist.kr.apan.net (razor.kaist.kr.apan.net [192.249.24.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05B5215615 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 00:59:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from whchoi@cosmos.kaist.ac.kr) Received: (from whchoi@localhost) by razor.kaist.kr.apan.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA08905; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:44:52 +0900 (KST) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:44:52 +0900 From: Woohyong Choi To: Randy Bush Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk Message-ID: <19991104174452.A8876@cosmos.kaist.ac.kr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.3i In-Reply-To: ; from Randy Bush on Thu, Nov 04, 1999 at 12:20:46AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG you could try using os-bs if there is not a quick fix for that. os-bs is available from pub/FreeBSD/tools diretocy of any mirrors. -whchoi On Thu, Nov 04, 1999 at 12:20:46AM -0800, Randy Bush wrote: > on a 13gb win98 system, i wanted a bit of bsd. so i installed win98 in 10gb > and freebsd in the last 3gb, and choose easyboot. at boot, when i select f2 > pertition, i get a beep. is it the >1024 cyl thingie? wazza fix? it is > already lba. > > randy > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 4 6:38:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from goshen.rutgers.edu (goshen.rutgers.edu [165.230.180.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19C3114C05 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 06:38:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from damascus@eden.rutgers.edu) Received: from damascus.dorm.rutgers.edu (damascus@damascus.dorm.rutgers.edu [165.230.0.68]) by goshen.rutgers.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA00066; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:36:52 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:37:53 -0500 (EST) From: Carroll Kong X-Sender: damascus@damascus.dorm.rutgers.edu To: Randy Bush Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It probably is the >1024 cylinder problem. You might be able to do it with a very good boot manager. (not sure if the OS will like being booted from > 1024, but I am pretty sure it can). See, with a good boot manager in the MBR, you are already under the 1024 cyl, and it pivots out to another OS. You can try the Ranish boot partition Manager, partition magic (commercial), or use "bootpart" for NT (you can install just the boot manager). I think for the highest level of success, the first 2 have a better chance over the last two. I personally use bootpart for NT, but I also have a freebsd root slice of 40 megs in my first ide drive. Good luck. On Thu, 4 Nov 1999, Randy Bush wrote: > on a 13gb win98 system, i wanted a bit of bsd. so i installed win98 in 10gb > and freebsd in the last 3gb, and choose easyboot. at boot, when i select f2 > pertition, i get a beep. is it the >1024 cyl thingie? wazza fix? it is > already lba. > > randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 4 6:49:56 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from axl.noc.iafrica.com (axl.noc.iafrica.com [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 216F015409 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 06:48:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.noc.iafrica.com) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.noc.iafrica.com) by axl.noc.iafrica.com with local-esmtp (Exim 3.040 #1) id 11jMqM-000P3k-00; Thu, 04 Nov 1999 15:22:22 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Oliver Fromme Subject: Re: VLAN support in -stable? In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Nov 1999 00:58:55 +0100." <199911032358.AAA05659@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 15:22:22 +0200 Message-ID: <96331.941721742@axl.noc.iafrica.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 04 Nov 1999 00:58:55 +0100, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Somehow, VLANs seem to be only half-supported in -stable. See PR 13281. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 4 7:18:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thoth.mch.sni.de (thoth.mch.sni.de [192.35.17.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2C4F14C32 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 07:18:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer thoth.mch.sni.de) Received: from mail2.siemens.de (mail2.siemens.de [139.25.208.11]) by thoth.mch.sni.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28051 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:17:40 +0100 (MET) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.42.7]) by mail2.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA06818 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:17:39 +0100 (MET) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA45543 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:17:39 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:17:39 +0100 From: Andre Albsmeier To: Mike Smith Cc: Randy Bush , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk Message-ID: <19991104161739.A29367@internal> References: <199911040836.AAA00488@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <199911040836.AAA00488@dingo.cdrom.com>; from mike@smith.net.au on Thu, Nov 04, 1999 at 12:36:21AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 04-Nov-1999 at 00:36:21 -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > > on a 13gb win98 system, i wanted a bit of bsd. so i installed win98 in 10gb > > and freebsd in the last 3gb, and choose easyboot. at boot, when i select f2 > > pertition, i get a beep. is it the >1024 cyl thingie? wazza fix? it is > > already lba. > > "Chose easyboot"? Here's the best fix: > > - Boot the install floppy. When the little spinning widget appears > and stops, hit the spacebar. At the 'boot:" prompt, type > > wd(0,a)/boot/loader > > This should get the loader off the disk OK, and boot you fine. > > - Once you're up and running, read the manpage for boot0inst. You Shouldn't that be boot0cfg ?!? -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 4 9:11: 2 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from math.missouri.edu (math.missouri.edu [128.206.72.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F43150C2 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:10:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu (cauchy.math.missouri.edu [128.206.72.27]) by math.missouri.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA59359 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 11:09:35 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Message-ID: <3821BD8B.91CD0F40@math.missouri.edu> Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 17:08:27 +0000 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith Organization: University of Missouri X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.0.36 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: CTM updates References: <199911040836.AAA00488@dingo.cdrom.com> <19991104161739.A29367@internal> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I notice that there have been no updates to the CTM stuff at ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CTM/ since Nov 2. Is that because things are relatively static, or is something else going on? -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu 307 Math Science Building stephen@showme.missouri.edu Department of Mathematics stephen@missouri.edu University of Missouri-Columbia Columbia, MO 65211 USA Phone (573) 882 4540 Fax (573) 882 1869 http://www.math.missouri.edu/~stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 4 9:40:29 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles520.castles.com [208.214.165.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90F4314C8E for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:40:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA03064; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 09:29:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199911041729.JAA03064@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Andre Albsmeier Cc: Mike Smith , Randy Bush , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Nov 1999 16:17:39 +0100." <19991104161739.A29367@internal> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 09:29:52 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > - Once you're up and running, read the manpage for boot0inst. You > > > Shouldn't that be boot0cfg ?!? Argh. Yes. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 4 10: 8:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.polytechnic.edu.na (mail.polytechnic.edu.na [196.31.225.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35924153CE for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:08:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tim@iafrica.com.na) Received: from [196.31.225.199] (helo=310.priebe.alt.na) by mail.polytechnic.edu.na with smtp (Exim 3.02 #2) id 11jQng-0007mO-00; Thu, 04 Nov 1999 15:35:52 -0200 Reply-To: tim@iafrica.com.na To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Oliver Fromme , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VLAN support in -stable? Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:41:37 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.17] Content-Type: text/plain References: <199911032358.AAA05659@dorifer.heim3.tu-clausthal.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <99110417075801.77033@310.priebe.alt.na> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit From: X-KMail-Mark: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 04 Nov 1999, Oliver Fromme wrote: > Hi, > > I'm asking this question on behalf of someone else who cannot > read/write the mailing list. I don't know anything about VLANS > myself. > > Somehow, VLANs seem to be only half-supported in -stable. The > kernel support is there since 3.2, but the options are missing > from ifconfig, and the vlan(4) manpage is missing, too (which > is referenced from several other manpages, e.g. ti(4)). Is > this intentional? Apparently, it works fine if ifconfig is > patched with the appropriate code from current. I believe the support has been there since 3.0. > Is the VLAN code in -stable actually considered "stable"? If > "no", then why is the code in -stable since 3.2? If "yes", > then why is the ifconfig support missing? I can't believe that > someone just forgot to MFC it... From my experiance it is definitely _not_ stable in 3.1, but I had a 3.2 Stable system running for months with 4 nics plus 6 vlans. It paniced a couple of times, but that might have been an mbuf problem. I have just come across a big problem using vlans on a FreeBSD box. The mtu on the vlan interfaces is only 1496 bytes, the problem is that any packets destined for the Interface larger than this are just thrown away. The solution to this problem seems to be to allow larger ethernet packets, or to set the mtu on all the other systems on the vlan to 1496. The second solution is not practical for some of my networks, I will be looking at this more next week. > (BTW: The VLAN support is needed for a production machine, so > running -current is not really an option.) If you can work around the above, it _should_ be fine. Tim. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 4 10:25:57 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7AE414DF6 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:25:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11jRZw-000N2F-00; Thu, 04 Nov 1999 10:25:44 -0800 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Mike Smith Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk References: <199911040836.AAA00488@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 10:25:44 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > - Boot the install floppy. i presume you mean the kern.flp floppy. > When the little spinning widget appears > and stops, hit the spacebar. At the 'boot:" prompt, type > wd(0,a)/boot/loader Disk error 0x1 (lba=0x1388b3c) Disk error 0x1 (lba=0x1388b3c) No /boot/loader should i not be telling it that it's the second slice in some way? > - Once you're up and running, read the manpage for boot0inst. as i have a bunch of other 3.3-stable systems, i read it there. > You want to install boot0 on wd0, and enable the 'packet' option. cool. where are docs on the 'packet option'? and, btw, whoppened to http://www.freebsd.org/~msmith/FTL/bootstrap.txt, where i usually start boot research? randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 4 10:34:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tricord.system.pl (tricord.system.pl [195.205.185.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42E0C14DF6 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 10:33:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from saper@system.pl) Received: from localhost (saper@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tricord.system.pl (SYSTEM Internet) with ESMTP id TAA23511 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:33:31 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:33:27 +0100 (MET) From: Marcin Cieslak To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VLAN support in -stable? In-Reply-To: <99110417075801.77033@310.priebe.alt.na> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have just come across a big problem using vlans on a FreeBSD box. The mtu on > the vlan interfaces is only 1496 bytes, the problem is that any packets > destined for the Interface larger than this are just thrown away. The solution > to this problem seems to be to allow larger ethernet packets, or to set the mtu > on all the other systems on the vlan to 1496. The second solution is not > practical for some of my networks, I will be looking at this more next week. The problem is more complex, afaik. Recently, I attended a training by a reputable hardware vendor and the guys noted few problems with IEEE 802.1p and Q standards. They require that _hardware_ should accept a longer packets, because 802.1p/Q add extra 4 bytes to the ethernet frame. Therefore, all Ethernet equipment on a network using VLAN must accept longer packets, and that's what vendors say that they are 802.1p/Q compliant. Usually, frames larger than old Ethernet maximum are thrown away and counted as "giants". The vendor reps really doubted if there is a chance to deploy those standards on a large network; they also pointed that this is a big problem to Ethernet switch vendors, since this problem is not so easy to solve in software. Even if all FreeBSD drivers would support larger packets with new MTU still 1500, the problem is the underlying hardware, not only NICs, but hubs, switches, etc. and this is a real problem in employing 802.1p/Q standards, not understanding an extra field. However, I haven't confirmed this from indepenent source, but the argumentation seems reasonable. Cisco ISL seems to encapsulate a whole packet, and has similar problem: (from http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/741/4.html): The biggest implication for systems using ISL encapsulation is that the encapsulation is a total of 30 bytes and fragmentation is not required. Therefore, if the encapsulated packet is 1518 bytes long, the ISL packet will be 1548 bytes long. Additionally, if packets other than Ethernet packets are encapsulated, the maximum length can be greatly increased. This length change must be considered when evaluating whether a MAC can support ISL packets. -- << Marcin Cieslak // saper@system.pl >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- SYSTEM Internet Provider http://www.system.pl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 4 11:54:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from exit.com (exit-gw.power.net [207.151.46.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0902315148 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 11:54:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: from realtime.exit.com (realtime.exit.com [206.223.0.5]) by exit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA52280 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 11:54:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: (from frank@localhost) by realtime.exit.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA24487 for stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 11:54:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from frank) From: Frank Mayhar Message-Id: <199911041954.LAA24487@realtime.exit.com> Subject: 3Com 3CCFE575CT PCMCIA 10/100 Enet supported in -stable? To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 11:54:10 -0800 (PST) Reply-To: frank@exit.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I got one of these beasts with my brand-new Dell Inspiron 3500. Does anyone know if it's supported in any way (preferably at 100BTX) by -stable in one of the other 3Com drivers? Unfortunately I don't see a data sheet for it on the 3Com site; I've entered a customer support request for same and we'll see... -- Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 4 13: 1:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from erouter0.it-datacntr.louisville.edu (erouter0.it-datacntr.louisville.edu [136.165.1.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C779A155F0 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:01:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from k.stevenson@louisville.edu) Received: from osaka.louisville.edu (osaka.louisville.edu [136.165.1.114]) by erouter0.it-datacntr.louisville.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C015424D03; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:00:22 -0500 (EST) Received: by osaka.louisville.edu (Postfix, from userid 15) id 22E5318605; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:00:21 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 16:00:21 -0500 From: Keith Stevenson To: Frank Mayhar Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3Com 3CCFE575CT PCMCIA 10/100 Enet supported in -stable? Message-ID: <19991104160021.A10027@osaka.louisville.edu> References: <199911041954.LAA24487@realtime.exit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0pre3i In-Reply-To: <199911041954.LAA24487@realtime.exit.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 04, 1999 at 11:54:10AM -0800, Frank Mayhar wrote: > I got one of these beasts with my brand-new Dell Inspiron 3500. Does anyone > know if it's supported in any way (preferably at 100BTX) by -stable in one of > the other 3Com drivers? My 3CCFE575BT-D 10/100 adapter is cardbus not PCMCIA. I don't expect to see cardbus support before 4.0 is released, if then. Regards, --Keith Stevenson-- -- Keith Stevenson System Programmer - Data Center Services - University of Louisville k.stevenson@louisville.edu PGP key fingerprint = 4B 29 A8 95 A8 82 EA A2 29 CE 68 DE FC EE B6 A0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 4 13: 1:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from math.uic.edu (galois.math.uic.edu [131.193.178.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E8333155F0 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:01:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vladimir-bsd-stable@math.uic.edu) Received: (qmail 9661 invoked by uid 31415); 4 Nov 1999 21:00:35 -0000 Date: 4 Nov 1999 21:00:35 -0000 Message-ID: <19991104210035.9660.qmail@math.uic.edu> From: vladimir-bsd-stable@math.uic.edu To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: nfs problems Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I did some more testing: if a directory is on an NFS mounted partition and the mode on the directory is 711 (and the directory is not owned by root), after mount with NFS v.2 I can list the contents of the directory. Mounts with NFSv.3 produce expected results: root is not allowed to list the directory. I will submit a bug report. Vladimir > >Dear -STABLE Users, > >Can anyone please explain this: >We have a FBSD-3.3 NFS server serving files to a Solaris 7 NFS client >(galois.math.uic.edu). Here is /etc/exports on a BSD machine: > >/export/2 -network 131.193.180 -mask 255.255.255.0 >/export/2 -network 131.193.179 -mask 255.255.255.0 >/export/2 -network 131.193.178 -mask 255.255.255.0 > >galois.math.uic.edu is on 131.193.178 subnet. >export/2 is mounted on a solaris machine under /home/2. >The mode on /home/2/vladimir is 711: >$ ls -ld /home/2/vladimir >drwx--x--x 30 vladimir 4096 Nov 3 23:29 /home/2/vladimir > >However, root on galois is able to list files in /home/2/vladimir. >This is not the case when I mount a directory from a solaris NFS server: >directories with mode 711 cannot be listed. > >Also, we have 2 linux machines (with different kernel versions) >mounting directories from the same FBSD server -- on one of them >root is able to list directories, on the other one attempt to list >directories that have mode 711 produces "Operation not permitted" >message. > >This doesn't make any sense to me. Thanks for any explanations! > Vladimir > vladimir@math.uic.edu > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 4 13:24:37 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from enst.enst.fr (enst.enst.fr [137.194.2.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 971331513D for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:24:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from beyssac@enst.fr) Received: from bofh.enst.fr (bofh-2.enst.fr [137.194.2.37]) by enst.enst.fr (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id WAA08244; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:23:48 +0100 (MET) Received: by bofh.enst.fr (Postfix, from userid 12426) id 52B77D246; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:23:48 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <19991104222348.A1593@enst.fr> Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:23:48 +0100 From: Pierre Beyssac To: Marcin Cieslak , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: VLAN support in -stable? References: <99110417075801.77033@310.priebe.alt.na> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Marcin Cieslak on Thu, Nov 04, 1999 at 07:33:27PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Nov 04, 1999 at 07:33:27PM +0100, Marcin Cieslak wrote: > by a reputable hardware vendor and the guys noted few problems with > IEEE 802.1p and Q standards. They require that _hardware_ > should accept a longer packets, because 802.1p/Q add extra > 4 bytes to the ethernet frame. Therefore, all Ethernet > equipment on a network using VLAN must accept longer packets, That sounds reasonnable, since it seems to me that VLAN links are typically to be used on backbone/trunk links, i.e. links where you only have switches or possibly a few big servers (i.e. fast, recent hardware which is more likely to be VLAN-compliant). Same principle as ATM's LAN emulation with (classical) ethernet devices at the edges, except that you replace the expensive ATM core with relatively cheaper VLAN-compliant ethernet equipment. -- Pierre Beyssac pb@enst.fr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 4 13:46:16 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from exit.com (exit-gw.power.net [207.151.46.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A971314EFC for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:46:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: from realtime.exit.com (realtime.exit.com [206.223.0.5]) by exit.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA53137; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:45:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: (from frank@localhost) by realtime.exit.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id NAA24696; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:45:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from frank) From: Frank Mayhar Message-Id: <199911042145.NAA24696@realtime.exit.com> Subject: Re: 3Com 3CCFE575CT PCMCIA 10/100 Enet supported in -stable? In-Reply-To: <19991104160021.A10027@osaka.louisville.edu> from Keith Stevenson at "Nov 4, 1999 04:00:21 pm" To: k.stevenson@louisville.edu (Keith Stevenson) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 13:45:06 -0800 (PST) Cc: frank@exit.com (Frank Mayhar), freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Reply-To: frank@exit.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Keith Stevenson wrote: > On Thu, Nov 04, 1999 at 11:54:10AM -0800, Frank Mayhar wrote: > > I got one of these beasts with my brand-new Dell Inspiron 3500. Does anyone > > know if it's supported in any way (preferably at 100BTX) by -stable in one of > > the other 3Com drivers? > My 3CCFE575BT-D 10/100 adapter is cardbus not PCMCIA. I don't expect to see > cardbus support before 4.0 is released, if then. Well, Winbloze treats this one as a PCMCIA card, and it's labelled as such. I haven't had a chance to build a kernel on the laptop with PCMCIA support, or I would have more information about it. I'll probably do that tonight. -- Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 4 15:18:27 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from kusanagi.boing.com (adsl-gte-la-216-86-200-115.mminternet.com [216.86.200.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C96D14D7C for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 15:18:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from boing@kusanagi.boing.com) Received: (from boing@localhost) by kusanagi.boing.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA08627; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 15:17:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from boing) From: Geff Hanoian Message-Id: <199911042317.PAA08627@kusanagi.boing.com> Subject: Re: 3Com 3CCFE575CT PCMCIA 10/100 Enet supported in -stable? In-Reply-To: <199911042145.NAA24696@realtime.exit.com> from Frank Mayhar at "Nov 4, 1999 1:45: 6 pm" To: frank@exit.com Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 15:17:41 -0800 (PST) Cc: k.stevenson@louisville.edu, frank@exit.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL43 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Keith Stevenson wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 04, 1999 at 11:54:10AM -0800, Frank Mayhar wrote: > > > I got one of these beasts with my brand-new Dell Inspiron 3500. Does anyone > > > know if it's supported in any way (preferably at 100BTX) by -stable in one of > > > the other 3Com drivers? > > My 3CCFE575BT-D 10/100 adapter is cardbus not PCMCIA. I don't expect to see > > cardbus support before 4.0 is released, if then. > > Well, Winbloze treats this one as a PCMCIA card, and it's labelled as such. > I haven't had a chance to build a kernel on the laptop with PCMCIA support, > or I would have more information about it. I'll probably do that tonight. I have this card in my Toshiba laptop with NT workstation 4.0. If you place the bios settings on PCMCIA, the card won't recognize. If you place the bios settings on cardbus, it will. Either case the PCMCIA Control panel thingamagigger fails to show the card. It's definitely a CardBUS card. Geff To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 4 17:37:22 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 289061561B for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:37:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA18499; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:36:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:36:28 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White To: Wayne M Barnes Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: ethernet hard or soft failure In-Reply-To: <199911011728.LAA53029@klentaq.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 1 Nov 1999, Wayne M Barnes wrote: > Dear FreeBSDers, > > Is the following recurrent failure a hardware or software failure? > > My 3.3 system loses its internet connection often, but only in > the past 3 weeks. Before that this did not happen for years. Has someone made a change to your Ethernet network wiring? Someone may have spliced/installed equipment/etc that is confusing the autodetection hardware on your card. > ping: sendto: No buffer space available > ping: sendto: No buffer space available > ping: sendto: No buffer space available Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 4 17:40: 1 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from resnet.uoregon.edu (resnet.uoregon.edu [128.223.144.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E4E31571D for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:39:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Received: from localhost (dwhite@localhost) by resnet.uoregon.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA18611; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:39:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu) Date: Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:39:02 -0800 (PST) From: Doug White To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress Pro/10+ on -stable In-Reply-To: <199911030619.XAA18084@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, 2 Nov 1999, Warner Losh wrote: > I've had 0 luck getting my Intel EtherExpress PRO/10+ working on my > 3.3-stable system. It never seems to get interrupts. I've disabled plug > and play, and have tried it at two differend IRQs, which I set with the > softset2 program that came with my etherpro 10+ (version 3.5). Has anybody > managed to make one of these work in a -stable system? I'd had plenty of problems getting ISA Intel cards to work. I've usually given up and used 3c509 or NE2000s. Or PCI cards in supported boxes :) Doug White | FreeBSD: The Power to Serve dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu | www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 4 17:59:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16AB014D68 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 17:59:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA75406; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:56:42 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id SAA10950; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 18:56:04 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199911050156.SAA10950@harmony.village.org> To: Doug White Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress Pro/10+ on -stable Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Nov 1999 17:39:02 PST." References: Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 18:56:04 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Doug White writes: : I'd had plenty of problems getting ISA Intel cards to work. I've usually : given up and used 3c509 or NE2000s. Or PCI cards in supported boxes :) I've had lots of problems in -stable, but the new -current driver appears to work well. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 4 19:34:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from neptune.psn.net (neptune.psn.net [207.211.58.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7FB6157FA for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 19:34:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andrews@technologist.com) Received: from 5042-243.008.popsite.net ([209.224.140.243] helo=argon) by neptune.psn.net with smtp (PSN Internet Service 2.12 #3) id 11ja8t-00048X-00; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 20:34:24 -0700 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.19991104223412.008b8c20@mail.psn.net> X-Sender: andrews@mail.psn.net (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 22:34:12 -0500 To: frank@exit.com From: Will Andrews Subject: Re: 3Com 3CCFE575CT PCMCIA 10/100 Enet supported in -stable? Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <199911041954.LAA24487@realtime.exit.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 11:54 AM 11/4/99 -0800, you wrote: >I got one of these beasts with my brand-new Dell Inspiron 3500. Does anyone >know if it's supported in any way (preferably at 100BTX) by -stable in one of >the other 3Com drivers? > >Unfortunately I don't see a data sheet for it on the 3Com site; I've entered >a customer support request for same and we'll see... If you mean a 3Com 3CCFE574BT, I have that. It works with FreeBSD -CURRENT as of September 29, 1999. I believe Marcel Moolenaar recently committed to -STABLE the necessary ID for this PC-Card, but haven't tested with this patch. I doubt it'll run under -STABLE. *shrug* Works very nicely, I might say. Yes, at 100BaseTX. Search the cvs-all mailing list archives for my name and "3CCFE574BT", and you should find my sample pccard.conf entry for this card. Right now, it's broken in -CURRENT. I'm looking into this. -- Will Andrews GCS/E/S @d- s+:+>+:- a--->+++ C++ UB++++ P+ L- E--- W+++ !N !o ?K w--- ?O M+ V-- PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP+>+++ t++ 5 X++ R+ tv+ b++>++++ DI+++ D+ G++>+++ e->++++ h! r-->+++ y? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 4 21: 6:17 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (dingo.cdrom.com [204.216.28.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D5514DE6 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 21:06:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost.cdrom.com [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA01405; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 20:50:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199911050450.UAA01405@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Randy Bush Cc: Mike Smith , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Nov 1999 10:25:44 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 20:50:57 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > - Boot the install floppy. > > i presume you mean the kern.flp floppy. > > > When the little spinning widget appears > > and stops, hit the spacebar. At the 'boot:" prompt, type > > wd(0,a)/boot/loader > > Disk error 0x1 (lba=0x1388b3c) > Disk error 0x1 (lba=0x1388b3c) > No /boot/loader > > should i not be telling it that it's the second slice in some way? Nope, you're probably SOL. It looks like your BIOS isn't going to let you go past 8GB. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Nov 4 22:49:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD6115880 for ; Thu, 4 Nov 1999 22:49:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11jdBA-0003Vg-00; Thu, 04 Nov 1999 22:48:56 -0800 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Mike Smith Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk References: <199911050450.UAA01405@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-Id: Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 22:48:56 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>> - Boot the install floppy. >> i presume you mean the kern.flp floppy. >>> When the little spinning widget appears >>> and stops, hit the spacebar. At the 'boot:" prompt, type >>> wd(0,a)/boot/loader >> Disk error 0x1 (lba=0x1388b3c) >> Disk error 0x1 (lba=0x1388b3c) >> No /boot/loader >> should i not be telling it that it's the second slice in some way? > Nope, you're probably SOL. It looks like your BIOS isn't going to let > you go past 8GB. i did flash a new bios, and it did install up there at 10-13g. it just won't boot. randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 5 2:59: 7 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles502.castles.com [208.214.165.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10A7C14DD3 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 02:59:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id BAA00502; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 01:37:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199911050937.BAA00502@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Randy Bush Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 04 Nov 1999 22:48:56 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 01:37:01 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >>> - Boot the install floppy. > >> i presume you mean the kern.flp floppy. > >>> When the little spinning widget appears > >>> and stops, hit the spacebar. At the 'boot:" prompt, type > >>> wd(0,a)/boot/loader > >> Disk error 0x1 (lba=0x1388b3c) > >> Disk error 0x1 (lba=0x1388b3c) > >> No /boot/loader > >> should i not be telling it that it's the second slice in some way? > > Nope, you're probably SOL. It looks like your BIOS isn't going to let > > you go past 8GB. > > i did flash a new bios, and it did install up there at 10-13g. it just > won't boot. *sigh* The fact that you were able to install there means nothing. The installation process is not subject to your BIOS' limitations. It looks like you can't boot from beyond the 8GB mark. Period. Rearrange your disk and get on with the fun bits. 8) -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 5 5:29: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sstar.com (sstar.com [209.102.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265CC14E90 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 05:29:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from king@sstar.com) Received: from MAROON ([134.132.228.8]) by sstar.com with ESMTP (IPAD 2.5s/64) id 6917000; Fri, 05 Nov 1999 07:29:00 -0600 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991105072616.00a3b128@mail.sstar.com> X-Sender: king@mail.sstar.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 07:28:59 -0600 To: Randy Bush From: Jim King Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk Cc: FreeBSD Stable In-Reply-To: References: <199911050450.UAA01405@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 10:48 PM 11/4/1999 -0800, Randy Bush wrote: > >>> - Boot the install floppy. > >> i presume you mean the kern.flp floppy. > >>> When the little spinning widget appears > >>> and stops, hit the spacebar. At the 'boot:" prompt, type > >>> wd(0,a)/boot/loader > >> Disk error 0x1 (lba=0x1388b3c) > >> Disk error 0x1 (lba=0x1388b3c) > >> No /boot/loader > >> should i not be telling it that it's the second slice in some way? > > Nope, you're probably SOL. It looks like your BIOS isn't going to let > > you go past 8GB. > >i did flash a new bios, and it did install up there at 10-13g. it just >won't boot. I had a similar problem, on a newish Dell PC (less than a year old) with a 16 GB drive. I had a 13 GB Win98 partition followed by a 3 GB FreeBSD partition, and I was unable to boot FreeBSD. What I did: wipe out FreeBSD partition; use Partition Magic 4.0 to move the Win98 partition to the end of the disk; reinstall FreeBSD in the newly empty 3 GB partition at the front of the disk. Now both FreeBSD and Win98 boot OK. Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 5 7:31: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D271714BD8 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 07:31:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11jlIP-0008BQ-00; Fri, 05 Nov 1999 07:28:57 -0800 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Jim King Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk References: <199911050450.UAA01405@dingo.cdrom.com> <4.2.0.58.19991105072616.00a3b128@mail.sstar.com> Message-Id: Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 07:28:57 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> i did flash a new bios, and it did install up there at 10-13g. it just >> won't boot. > I had a similar problem, on a newish Dell PC (less than a year old) with a > 16 GB drive. I had a 13 GB Win98 partition followed by a 3 GB FreeBSD > partition, and I was unable to boot FreeBSD. What I did: wipe out FreeBSD > partition; use Partition Magic 4.0 to move the Win98 partition to the end > of the disk; reinstall FreeBSD in the newly empty 3 GB partition at the > front of the disk. Now both FreeBSD and Win98 boot OK. hun?! what about the widely distributed belief that the win9x partition has to be the first partition on the disk? randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 5 7:41:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sstar.com (sstar.com [209.102.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C22214C8F for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 07:41:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from king@sstar.com) Received: from JKING ([134.132.78.137]) by sstar.com with ESMTP (IPAD 2.5s/64) id 6977600; Fri, 05 Nov 1999 09:39:53 -0600 Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991105093923.00a65d08@mail.sstar.com> X-Sender: king@mail.sstar.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 09:39:52 -0600 To: Randy Bush From: Jim King Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk Cc: FreeBSD Stable In-Reply-To: References: <199911050450.UAA01405@dingo.cdrom.com> <4.2.0.58.19991105072616.00a3b128@mail.sstar.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 07:28 AM 11/5/1999 -0800, Randy Bush wrote: > >> i did flash a new bios, and it did install up there at 10-13g. it just > >> won't boot. > > I had a similar problem, on a newish Dell PC (less than a year old) with a > > 16 GB drive. I had a 13 GB Win98 partition followed by a 3 GB FreeBSD > > partition, and I was unable to boot FreeBSD. What I did: wipe out > FreeBSD > > partition; use Partition Magic 4.0 to move the Win98 partition to the end > > of the disk; reinstall FreeBSD in the newly empty 3 GB partition at the > > front of the disk. Now both FreeBSD and Win98 boot OK. > >hun?! what about the widely distributed belief that the win9x partition has >to be the first partition on the disk? Widely distributed? That's the first time I've heard that. Jim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 5 7:43:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles502.castles.com [208.214.165.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B56414C8F for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 07:43:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA02236; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 07:34:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199911051534.HAA02236@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Randy Bush Cc: Jim King , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 05 Nov 1999 07:28:57 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 07:34:30 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > partition, and I was unable to boot FreeBSD. What I did: wipe out FreeBSD > > partition; use Partition Magic 4.0 to move the Win98 partition to the end > > of the disk; reinstall FreeBSD in the newly empty 3 GB partition at the > > front of the disk. Now both FreeBSD and Win98 boot OK. > > hun?! what about the widely distributed belief that the win9x partition has > to be the first partition on the disk? You misremember; it has to be on the first disk, but it can be in any primary partition there. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 5 7:49:55 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 044FB14C8F for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 07:49:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11jlaQ-0008Mz-00; Fri, 05 Nov 1999 07:47:34 -0800 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: Mike Smith Cc: Jim King , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk References: <199911051534.HAA02236@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-Id: Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 07:47:34 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > You misremember; it has to be on the first disk, but it can be in any > primary partition there. doh. thanks. game over. randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 5 7:50:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from Raccoon.ChipChat.com (Raccoon.ChipChat.com [206.2.228.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DA7415276 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 07:50:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mrc@ChipChat.com) Received: from Piman-Orange.ChipChat.com (Piman-Orange.ChipChat.com [206.2.228.146]) by Raccoon.ChipChat.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id PAA48759 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:50:15 GMT (envelope-from mrc@ChipChat.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.ChipChat.com [127.0.0.1]) by Piman-Orange.ChipChat.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA03393 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:50:11 GMT (envelope-from mrc@ChipChat.com) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: PPS Timing Interface and ONCORE GPS Clock / NTPD X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on XEmacs 20.4 (Emerald) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991105155011X.mrc@ChipChat.com> Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 15:50:11 GMT From: Marty Cawthon X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 47 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG SUMMARY: ONCORE GPS Clock source for NTPD on FreeBSD was working with 3.3-Stable (Oct 8 1999). With 3.3-Stable (Nov 4 1999) NTPD fails with a 'time_pps_setparams: Inappropriate ioctl for device' message. It seems that '/dev/pps' may have been changed to '/dev/lppps0' REFERENCE: http://phk.freebsd.dk/ntp/ DISCUSSION: I had a GPS Clock working with FreeBSD 3.3-Stable as described at http://phk.freebsd.dk/ntp/ Using FreeBSD 3.3-Stable (as of Oct 8 1999) I had this working. NTPD would execute and diagnostic messages from the 'ONCORE' GPS receiver would appear on STDOUT. I recently upgraded to 3.3-Stable (Nov 4 1999). Now the NPTD program exits with a message: #ntpd -d -d getnetnum given 127.127.30.0, got 127.127.30.0 (7f7f1e00) poll_update: at 0 127.127.30.0 poll 6 next 63 refclock_open: fd 8 modem status 7 refclock_ioctl: fd 8 flags 20 time_pps_setparams: Inappropriate ioctl for device So it seems that there is trouble with 'time_pps_setparams'. I checked 'dmesg' to see if the pps device appears: $dmesg | grep pps lppps0: on ppbus 0 This 'lppps0' device (3 p's) looks strange to me. I tried changing the name of /dev/pps to be /dev/lppps0 but to no avail. It seems that something may have changed in 3.3-Stable between Oct 8 and Nov 4 with respect to the pps device. Perhaps somebody can provide a pointer for me with respect to this problem. Marty Cawthon ChipChat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 5 8:19:31 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za [146.64.24.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B52EC14DA6 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 08:19:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jhay@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za) Received: (from jhay@localhost) by zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA17043; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 18:17:13 +0200 (SAT) (envelope-from jhay) From: John Hay Message-Id: <199911051617.SAA17043@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: PPS Timing Interface and ONCORE GPS Clock / NTPD In-Reply-To: <19991105155011X.mrc@ChipChat.com> from Marty Cawthon at "Nov 5, 1999 03:50:11 pm" To: mrc@ChipChat.com (Marty Cawthon) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 18:17:13 +0200 (SAT) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You don't say which version of ntp you are using. If you are using something older than ntp-4.0.98b, please read the message I sent on Oct 16 to freebsd-stable with the subject line: HEADS UP: ntpd users If you are using ntp-4.0.98b or later tell me and I will look into it, because it is working for me. John -- John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za > SUMMARY: > ONCORE GPS Clock source for NTPD on FreeBSD was working > with 3.3-Stable (Oct 8 1999). With 3.3-Stable (Nov 4 1999) > NTPD fails with a 'time_pps_setparams: Inappropriate ioctl for device' > message. It seems that '/dev/pps' may have been changed to '/dev/lppps0' > > REFERENCE: > http://phk.freebsd.dk/ntp/ > > DISCUSSION: > I had a GPS Clock working with FreeBSD 3.3-Stable > as described at http://phk.freebsd.dk/ntp/ > > Using FreeBSD 3.3-Stable (as of Oct 8 1999) I had this working. > NTPD would execute and diagnostic messages from the 'ONCORE' GPS > receiver would appear on STDOUT. > > I recently upgraded to 3.3-Stable (Nov 4 1999). > Now the NPTD program exits with a message: > > #ntpd -d -d > > getnetnum given 127.127.30.0, got 127.127.30.0 (7f7f1e00) > poll_update: at 0 127.127.30.0 poll 6 next 63 > refclock_open: fd 8 modem status 7 > refclock_ioctl: fd 8 flags 20 > time_pps_setparams: Inappropriate ioctl for device > > So it seems that there is trouble with 'time_pps_setparams'. > > I checked 'dmesg' to see if the pps device appears: > $dmesg | grep pps > lppps0: on ppbus 0 > > This 'lppps0' device (3 p's) looks strange to me. > > I tried changing the name of /dev/pps to be /dev/lppps0 > but to no avail. > > It seems that something may have changed in 3.3-Stable > between Oct 8 and Nov 4 with respect to the pps device. > > Perhaps somebody can provide a pointer for me with respect > to this problem. > > Marty Cawthon > ChipChat To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 5 9: 0: 3 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24A5B15336 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 08:59:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA23468 for stable@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:58:12 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) From: "Chad R. Larson" Message-Id: <199911051658.JAA23468@freeway.dcfinc.com> Subject: Re: VLAN support in -stable? (fwd) To: stable@FreeBSD.org Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:58:12 -0700 (MST) Reply-To: chad@DCFinc.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL40 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG During an off-line discussion, a friend of mine wrote: >>> I have just come across a big problem using vlans on a FreeBSD box. >>> The mtu on the vlan interfaces is only 1496 bytes, the problem is >>> that any packets destined for the Interface larger than this are >>> just thrown away. The solution > > It's true that 802.1Q makes packets be 4 bytes longer. However, I've > not found a NIC that can't handle the larger packet, and hubs sure don't > care. The switches think it's just ducky, usually, since they hope to > implement the VLAN feature themselves. Changing the MTU in BSD is the > wrong approach, though. What they need to do is increase the size of > the ethernet header by 4 bytes (ETHER_MAX_LEN). There needs to be a > mechanism by which this may be done without a kernel rebuild, though. > > The thing that really surprised me was that I can send both "tagged" > packets and normal ethernet packets on the same BSD interface! I don't > know why I was so surprised. I have a 3COM 802.1Q-compliant switch with > one of its 10/100 ports configured as a VLAN trunk (so it expects its > packets to have the 4-byte tags) and another of its ports in a specified > VLAN. I built my BSD kernel with support for 24 vlans, and hacked > ifconfig to let me set the vlan number (no tools in the distribution to > do that). I can talk out the switch's port just fine, and I can also > talk to the switch and other things on the normal BSD interface just as > though the tagged packets weren't there. So, the BSD interface sends > both tagged and untagged packets and things on the LAN see the ones they > are supposed to, without the others appearing to be problems. Cool! > > However, if you have bpf configured in your kernel, it will panic > occasionally when doing TCP over tagged packets. I'm looking for info > on that one. > > -Les > > -- > Les Biffle Community Service... Just Say NO! > (480) 585-4099 les@safety.net http://www.les.safety.net/ > Network Safety Corp., 5831 E. Dynamite Blvd., Cave Creek, AZ 85331 > -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.net DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 5 9:12:32 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bingnet2.cc.binghamton.edu (bingnet2.cc.binghamton.edu [128.226.1.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EDA41525E for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:12:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from zzhang@cs.binghamton.edu) Received: from sol.cs.binghamton.edu (cs1-gw.cs.binghamton.edu [128.226.171.72]) by bingnet2.cc.binghamton.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA16087; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:11:07 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 11:07:54 -0500 (EST) From: Zhihui Zhang To: Mike Smith Cc: Randy Bush , Jim King , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk In-Reply-To: <199911051534.HAA02236@dingo.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > > partition, and I was unable to boot FreeBSD. What I did: wipe out FreeBSD > > > partition; use Partition Magic 4.0 to move the Win98 partition to the end > > > of the disk; reinstall FreeBSD in the newly empty 3 GB partition at the > > > front of the disk. Now both FreeBSD and Win98 boot OK. > > > > hun?! what about the widely distributed belief that the win9x partition has > > to be the first partition on the disk? > > You misremember; it has to be on the first disk, but it can be in any > primary partition there. > > We just find out that to make Linux and FreeBSD coexist, we must connect > the hard drive to the primary controller. Our adminstrator says BIOS > can only boot from primary controller and FreeBSD relies on BIOS to boot > (I wonder with new boot loader code, this limitation has already been > removed if there was). Linux does not have this requirement. Is this > true? Also, Linux can boot from a floppy. Can FreeBSD does similar things (boot from a floppy and then use data on the hard drive)? Are these stuff explained in Grey Lehey's book (I got a copy now). -Zhihui To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 5 9:54:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from Raccoon.ChipChat.com (Raccoon.ChipChat.com [206.2.228.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE0B15414 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:53:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mrc@ChipChat.com) Received: from Piman-Orange.ChipChat.com (Piman-Orange.ChipChat.com [206.2.228.146]) by Raccoon.ChipChat.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id RAA48989; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 17:54:02 GMT (envelope-from mrc@ChipChat.com) Received: from localhost (localhost.ChipChat.com [127.0.0.1]) by Piman-Orange.ChipChat.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA09129; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 17:53:54 GMT (envelope-from mrc@ChipChat.com) To: jhay@mikom.csir.co.za Cc: mrc@ChipChat.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: PPS Timing Interface and ONCORE GPS Clock / NTPD In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 5 Nov 1999 18:17:13 +0200 (SAT)" <199911051617.SAA17043@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> References: <199911051617.SAA17043@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.93 on XEmacs 20.4 (Emerald) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <19991105175354J.mrc@ChipChat.com> Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 17:53:54 GMT From: Marty Cawthon X-Dispatcher: imput version 980905(IM100) Lines: 36 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I was using ntp-4.0.98a. After reading your message I understand the source of my trouble. I downloaded and compiled ntp-4.0.98d This ntp-4.0.98d is now working OK. I normally read the -Stable Mailing List, but missed your message because I unsubscribed temporarily to reduce email while travelling (to FreeBSDCon). A search on the -Stable Mailing List for 'pps' did not turn up any recent messages. (I thought the trouble was with 'pps' because of the 'lppps0' entry in 'dmesg') After receiving Kevin Rowe's reply I searched the -Stable mailing list for 'ntpd' and your message turned up. I should have also searched for 'ntpd'. My thanks to both John Hay and Kevin J. Rowe for quick replies and helpful information. Marty Cawthon ChipChat jhay> You don't say which version of ntp you are using. If you are using something jhay> older than ntp-4.0.98b, please read the message I sent on Oct 16 to jhay> freebsd-stable with the subject line: jhay> jhay> HEADS UP: ntpd users jhay> jhay> If you are using ntp-4.0.98b or later tell me and I will look into it, jhay> because it is working for me. jhay> jhay> John jhay> -- jhay> John Hay -- John.Hay@mikom.csir.co.za jhay> jhay> mrc> SUMMARY: jhay> mrc> ONCORE GPS Clock source for NTPD on FreeBSD was working jhay> mrc> with 3.3-Stable (Oct 8 1999). With 3.3-Stable (Nov 4 1999) jhay> mrc> NTPD fails with a 'time_pps_setparams: Inappropriate ioctl for device' jhay> mrc> message. It seems that '/dev/pps' may have been changed to '/dev/lppps0' To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 5 10:57:40 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost1.dircon.co.uk (mailhost1.dircon.co.uk [194.112.32.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A18914BEA for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 10:57:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from philip@dircon.net) Received: from desktop97 (desktop97.dircon.net [194.112.33.241]) by mailhost1.dircon.co.uk (8.9.1/8.8.7) with SMTP id SAA25171 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 18:57:20 GMT Message-ID: <000501bf27bf$95b706a0$f12170c2@desktop97.dircon.co.uk> From: "Philip Inglesant" To: Subject: Password file updating Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 18:57:13 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Apologies if this has been discussed before, but I have a little programming problem that I need solving. We use a client/server system to send encoded messages from a machine that allows our customer service people to add new users, change password, etc. on various servers controlled from a single server. We use Radius, so we want to update several Radius servers' passwd and pwd.db/spwd.db files, and keep them in sync. We also use Cyrus IMAP/POP3 server running sendmail 8.9. The problem I have, although there could be other manifestations that we haven't noticed, is with sendmail attemting to authenticate users. Not just the new/changed users, but any users that it happens to want to look up in certain very short time windows. My problem is this: When the server end of this password update system gets a request, it flock()s master.password, makes a temporary copy of /etc/master.passwd, /etc/passwd, /etc/pwd.db, and /etc/spwd.db, and uses ordinary write() to the update passwd and master.passwd copies and dbopen() etc to update these temporary copies of pwd.db and spwd.db. I copied this source from the standard pwd_mkdb FreeeBSD source, with minor modifications. So far so good. The password mechanism seems still to work fine while master.passwd is flock()'ed and the updates to the temporary files are going ahead. But once the update to the temporary files is done, of course my program has to update the real live files. It does this using rename(). I am pretty sure that it is during the tiny period of time that the rename() is happening that the problem occurs. Sendmail checks usernames on incoming mail, and, if it happens to be during this short period of time, it incorrectly thinks that the user doesn't exist. This is an extremely busy pop/imap server processing thousands of messages a day, and on a typical day I see maybe 10 messages fail in this way. Still, it's obviously important to us not to bounce mail that we should be delivering to we need to get this fixed. Anyone any ideas about maybe alternatives to rename() or some way that we could still have the password files fully available while we do this update? Philip Inglesant To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 5 12: 7:36 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from astral.elitenet.com.br (astral.elitenet.com.br [200.254.27.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF72814E98 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:07:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from duwde@elitenet.com.br) Received: from elitenet.com.br (spacecowboy.noc.elitenet.com.br [200.254.27.20]) by astral.elitenet.com.br (8.9.3p/8.9.3/ASTRAL-4.2c) with ESMTP id SAA25031; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 18:13:59 -0200 (EDT) Message-ID: <38231D04.AD517B79@elitenet.com.br> Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 16:08:04 -0200 From: Fabio Dias X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Philip Inglesant Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Password file updating References: <000501bf27bf$95b706a0$f12170c2@desktop97.dircon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Philip Inglesant wrote: > When the server end of this password update system gets a request, it > flock()s master.password, makes a temporary copy of /etc/master.passwd, > /etc/passwd, /etc/pwd.db, and /etc/spwd.db, and uses ordinary write() to the > update passwd and master.passwd copies and dbopen() etc to update these > temporary copies of pwd.db and spwd.db. I copied this source from the > standard pwd_mkdb FreeeBSD source, with minor modifications. I think you should update only a temporary copy of master.passwd, and them call pwd_mkdb(8), as does chpass(1), passwd(1), vipw(8) and all others. > But once the update to the temporary files is done, of course my program has > to update the real live files. It does this using rename(). > > I am pretty sure that it is during the tiny period of time that the rename() > is happening that the problem occurs. quoting from pwd_mkdb(8) man page : -- Because of the necessity for atomic update of the password files, pwd_mkdb uses rename(2) to install them. This, however, requires that the file specified on the command line live on the same file system as the /etc directory. There are the obvious races with multiple people running pwd_mkdb on dif- ferent password files at the same time. The front-ends to pwd_mkdb, chpass(1), passwd(1) and vipw(8), handle the locking necessary to avoid this problem. -- rename(2) does a atomic update, your problem seems to rely on the front-end you're using, not on rename(2) itself. As I said before, update only a temporary copy of master.passwd (as all password programs does) but take care of the locking scheme utilized by those programs, and them call pwd_mkdb(8). Check out chpass/passwd/vipw sources. Fabio Dias duwde@elitenet.com.br To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 5 12:43:10 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vkhdib01.hda.hydro.com (vkhdib01.hda.hydro.com [136.164.216.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B94E814C0E for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:43:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Terje.Mathisen@hda.hydro.com) Received: from no115350p4 ([136.164.13.19]) by vkhdib01.hda.hydro.com (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA208406; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 21:41:06 +0100 Message-ID: <382340E0.406F@hda.hydro.com> Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 21:41:04 +0100 From: Terje Mathisen Organization: Hydro X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04Gold (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marty Cawthon , John Hay Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PPS Timing Interface and ONCORE GPS Clock / NTPD References: <199911051617.SAA17043@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG John Hay wrote: > > You don't say which version of ntp you are using. If you are using something > older than ntp-4.0.98b, please read the message I sent on Oct 16 to > freebsd-stable with the subject line: John is almost certainly right: I had exactly the same problem, but in reverse: The pps api stopped working when I switched from 98a to 98b, but a full cvsup + make world & make kernel started everything back up again. Terje -- - Using self-discipline, see http://www.eiffel.com/discipline "almost all programming can be viewed as an exercise in caching" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 5 12:52:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from c99946-a.spokn1.wa.home.com (c99946-a.spokn1.wa.home.com [24.1.30.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4B114A2D; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 12:52:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ted@stargate.org) Received: from localhost (ted@localhost) by c99946-a.spokn1.wa.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01982; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 16:38:24 -0800 Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 16:38:24 -0800 (PST) From: "T.D. Brace" To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Scsi problem? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have been having problems with a web server crashing on a regular basis. It's built with an Abit BX6, adaptec 2940uw, PIII 450, and 512mb ram running freebsd 3.1 stable. This machine is in a remote location, so I can't swap out components to find the problem easily. It seems to encounter scsi errors periodically (4-5 times a day) and reboot/crash. I was hoping by posting the error log, someone could give me thier best guess as to the problem. Thanks for any help. -Ted /var/log/messages: ============================================================================== Nov 5 12:15:52 loucha /kernel: ahc0: WARNING no command for scb 40 (cmdcmplt) Nov 5 12:15:52 loucha /kernel: QOUTPOS = 234 Nov 5 12:15:52 loucha /kernel: ahc0: WARNING no command for scb 40 (cmdcmplt) Nov 5 12:15:52 loucha /kernel: QOUTPOS = 235 Nov 5 12:15:52 loucha /kernel: ahc0: WARNING no command for scb 40 (cmdcmplt) Nov 5 12:15:52 loucha /kernel: QOUTPOS = 236 Nov 5 12:15:52 loucha /kernel: ahc0: WARNING no command for scb 40 (cmdcmplt) Nov 5 12:15:52 loucha /kernel: QOUTPOS = 237 Nov 5 12:15:52 loucha /kernel: ahc0: WARNING no command for scb 40 (cmdcmplt) Nov 5 12:15:52 loucha /kernel: QOUTPOS = 238 Nov 5 12:15:52 loucha /kernel: ahc0: WARNING no command for scb 40 (cmdcmplt) Nov 5 12:15:52 loucha /kernel: QOUTPOS = 239 Nov 5 12:15:52 loucha /kernel: ahc0: WARNING no command for scb 40 (cmdcmplt) Nov 5 12:15:52 loucha /kernel: QOUTPOS = 240 Nov 5 12:15:52 loucha /kernel: ahc0: WARNING no command for scb 40 (cmdcmplt) Nov 5 12:15:52 loucha /kernel: QOUTPOS = 241 Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: FreeBSD 3.1-19990217-STABLE #2: Sat Mar 13 18:20:16 PST 1999 Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: xxx@xxx.xxx.xxx:/usr/src/sys/compile/tek Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: Timecounter "TSC" frequency 350797116 Hz Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: CPU: Pentium II/Xeon/Celeron (350.80-MHz 686-class CPU) Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x651 Stepping=1 Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: Features=0x183f9ff> Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: real memory = 536870912 (524288K bytes) Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: avail memory = 519852032 (507668K bytes) Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf023b000. Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: chip0: rev 0x02 on pci0.0.0 Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: chip1: rev 0x02 on pci0.1.0 Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: chip2: rev 0x02 on pci0.7.0 Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: chip3: rev 0x02 on pci0.7.3 Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: fxp0: rev Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: 0x05 int a irq 11 on pci0.9.0 Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: fxp0: Ethernet address 00:90:27:1c:30:12 Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 10 on pci0.13.0 Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: vga0: rev 0x01 int a irq 15 on pci1.0.0 Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: sc0 on isa Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: atkbd0 irq 1 on isa Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: psm0 not found Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: npx0 on motherboard Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: changing root device to da0s1a Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: da0: 20.0MB/s transfers (10.0MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: da0: 8683MB (17783240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C) Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: cd0: 10.0MB/s transfers (10.0MHz, o Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: ffset 15) Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha /kernel: WARNING: / was not properly dismounted Nov 5 12:33:10 loucha named[128]: starting. named 8.1.2 Wed Feb 17 01:10:08 GMT 1999 rk@merlin.rz.tu-clausthal.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/named Nov 5 12:33:11 loucha named[129]: Ready to answer queries. Nov 5 12:36:21 loucha /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): tagged openings now 64 Nov 5 12:36:22 loucha /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): tagged openings now 63 Nov 5 12:36:22 loucha /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): tagged openings now 62 Nov 5 12:36:22 loucha /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): tagged openings now 61 Nov 5 12:36:22 loucha /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): tagged openings now 60 Nov 5 12:36:22 loucha /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): tagged openings now 59 Nov 5 12:36:22 loucha /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): tagged openings now 58 Nov 5 12:36:22 loucha /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): tagged openings now 57 Nov 5 12:36:22 loucha /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): tagged openings now 56 Nov 5 12:36:22 loucha /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): tagged openings now 55 Nov 5 12:36:23 loucha /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): tagged openings now 54 Nov 5 12:36:23 loucha /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): tagged openings now 53 Nov 5 12:36:23 loucha /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): tagged openings now 52 Nov 5 12:36:23 loucha /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): tagged openings now 51 Nov 5 12:36:23 loucha /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): tagged openings now 50 Nov 5 12:36:27 loucha /kernel: (da0:ahc0:0:0:0): tagged openings now 49 Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: Copyright (c) 1992-1999 FreeBSD Inc. Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: FreeBSD 3.1-19990217-STABLE #2: Sat Mar 13 18:20:16 PST 1999 Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: xxx@xxx.xxx.xxx:/usr/src/sys/compile/tek Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: Timecounter "TSC" frequency 350797295 Hz Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: CPU: Pentium II/Xeon/Celeron (350.80-MHz 686-class CPU) Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x651 Stepping=1 Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: Features=0x183f9ff> Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: real memory = 536870912 (524288K bytes) Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: avail memory = 519852032 (507668K bytes) Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xf023b000. Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: Probing for devices on PCI bus 0: Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: chip0: rev 0x02 on pci0.0.0 Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: chip1: rev 0x02 on pci0.1.0 Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: chip2: rev 0x02 on pci0.7.0 Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: chip3: rev 0x02 on pci0.7.3 Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: fxp0: rev Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: 0x05 int a irq 11 on pci0.9.0 Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: fxp0: Ethernet address 00:90:27:1c:30:12 Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: ahc0: rev 0x00 int a irq 10 on pci0.13.0 Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: Probing for devices on PCI bus 1: Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: vga0: rev 0x01 int a irq 15 on pci1.0.0 Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: Probing for devices on the ISA bus: Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: sc0 on isa Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: sc0: VGA color <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: atkbdc0 at 0x60-0x6f on motherboard Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: atkbd0 irq 1 on isa Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: psm0 not found Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: vga0 at 0x3b0-0x3df maddr 0xa0000 msize 131072 on isa Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: npx0 on motherboard Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: npx0: INT 16 interface Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: changing root device to da0s1a Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: da0: 20.0MB/s transfers (10.0MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: da0: 8683MB (17783240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C) Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: cd0: 10.0MB/s transfers (10.0MHz, o Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: ffset 15) Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha /kernel: WARNING: / was not properly dismounted Nov 5 12:45:49 loucha named[128]: starting. named 8.1.2 Wed Feb 17 01:10:08 GMT 1999 rk@merlin.rz.tu-clausthal.de:/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/named Nov 5 12:45:50 loucha named[129]: Ready to answer queries. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 5 13:19:20 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chumbly.math.missouri.edu (chumbly.math.missouri.edu [128.206.72.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF98A14D64 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 13:19:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rich@chumbly.math.missouri.edu) Received: (from rich@localhost) by chumbly.math.missouri.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id PAA00762; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:18:59 -0600 (CST) From: Rich Winkel Message-Id: <199911052118.PAA00762@chumbly.math.missouri.edu> Subject: Re: StarOffice5.1a To: joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu (Joseph Scott) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:18:59 -0600 (CST) Cc: stabilizer@klentaq.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3817D162.58015E0F@owp.csus.edu> from "Joseph Scott" at Oct 27, 99 09:30:26 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG According to Joseph Scott: > Just this afternoon I installed Star Office on a 3.3-STABLE box. I'm > not sure of the exact version of Star Office though, I downloaded it > from Sun's web site this afternoon. The instructions that I used can be > found at : > > http://www.stat.duke.edu/~sto/StarOffice51a/install.html > > I found these instructions to be right on the money and the install went > with out any problems. I haven't really had a chance to use it much, > just played a little, but so far so good. It looks like I owe Sean > O'Connell a thank you. I wish I could say the same... the install appears to go without a hitch until I try the "Setting up the end user" section. At that point it tells me it's already installed and gives me a choice of modifying the installation, deinstalling or repairing. Running repair as root doesn't help. Has anyone seen this before? Thanks, Rich To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 5 13:43: 8 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A9AF14E98 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 13:42:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 11jr8I-000BnC-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Nov 1999 13:42:54 -0800 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: ethernet hard or soft failure Message-Id: Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 13:42:54 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > ping: sendto: No buffer space available > ping: sendto: No buffer space available > ping: sendto: No buffer space available i get this if i try to load the ether, like /sbin/rdump 0uaf - /dev/wd0s2a | ssh foux 'cat > /usr/home/backup/root.dump' 3.3-stable+pao 3c589 randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 5 15:28:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C15DE14BF8 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:28:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@cyrus.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id SAA54864; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 18:27:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from robert@cyrus.watson.org) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 18:27:30 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org Reply-To: Robert Watson To: Troy Settle Cc: Vadim Chekan , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: imap, postfix, freebsd In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 25 Oct 1999, Troy Settle wrote: > > Patrick Bihan-Faou wrote: > > > However, I think that the CYRUS IMAP server is somewhat nicer > > than IMAP-UW. > > > Is anybody looking at updating the port ? > > > > I tryed to run it but there are a problem. New Cyrus uses PAM. But > > non-root user hasn't got permissions to athentificate user by pam_unix. > > I don't know is this a feature or bug. It's possible to use Curus's > > users database. > > > > As far as I can tell, the newer cyrus will still use pwcheck, but only > through that SASL crap, which, when building with --with-pwcheck, it chokes > and pukes. On my list of things to do this week, is to figure out what the > folks at CMU have been smoking and how it's affected their ability to create > clean code and reasonable documentation. I've provided Larry Greenfield with an account on one of my FreeBSD machines so he can test compiles/portability on FreeBSD 3.3. His predecessor, Tim Showalter, used one of my machines for the same thing, but I guess we'll wait and see if Larry actually does it or not :-). Of late, I've been thinking of setting up a freebsd-build.watson.org and allowing developers to try building their software there to test FreeBSD compatibility. I do this for a couple of people now (KeyNote, Cyrus) and it seems to work fairly well for people working entirely in userland. Any thoughts on the feasibility of this? Part of the problem of a "ports" collection is that the changes often don't get submitted back to the original maintainer of the software, leading to problems on updates, and more than one point of maintenance. Robert N M Watson robert@fledge.watson.org http://www.watson.org/~robert/ PGP key fingerprint: AF B5 5F FF A6 4A 79 37 ED 5F 55 E9 58 04 6A B1 TIS Labs at Network Associates, Safeport Network Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 5 15:45:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (polaris.we.lc.ehu.es [158.227.6.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEB9C14E7F for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:44:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jose@we.lc.ehu.es) Received: from we.lc.ehu.es (lxpxdi.lx.ehu.es [158.227.99.186]) by polaris.we.lc.ehu.es (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id AAA16808; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 00:43:42 +0100 (MET) Message-ID: <38236BAD.3F17AAA9@we.lc.ehu.es> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 00:43:41 +0100 From: "Jose M. Alcaide" Organization: Universidad del =?iso-8859-1?Q?Pa=EDs?= Vasco - Dept. de Electricidad y =?iso-8859-1?Q?Electr=F3nica?= X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: es-ES, es, en-US, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rich Winkel Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: StarOffice5.1a References: <199911052118.PAA00762@chumbly.math.missouri.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rich Winkel wrote: > > I wish I could say the same... the install appears to go without a hitch > until I try the "Setting up the end user" section. At that point it > tells me it's already installed and gives me a choice of > modifying the installation, deinstalling or repairing. Running repair > as root doesn't help. > Has anyone seen this before? > Perhaps this a stupid question ;-), but... Are you sure that you are selecting a shared directory (such as /usr/local/Office51) when doing the "setup /net"? The installation directory defaults to ~/Office51, which is not appropriate (the "end user" installation goes there). -- JMA ----------------------------------------------------------------------- José Mª Alcaide | mailto:jose@we.lc.ehu.es Universidad del País Vasco | mailto:jmas@FreeBSD.ORG Dpto. de Electricidad y Electrónica | http://www.we.lc.ehu.es/~jose Facultad de Ciencias - Campus de Lejona | Tel.: +34-946012479 48940 Lejona (Vizcaya) - SPAIN | Fax: +34-946013071 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Beware of Programmers who carry screwdrivers" -- Leonard Brandwein To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 5 18:49:41 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chumbly.math.missouri.edu (chumbly.math.missouri.edu [128.206.72.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C89FD14D85 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 18:49:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rich@chumbly.math.missouri.edu) Received: (from rich@localhost) by chumbly.math.missouri.edu (8.9.1a/8.9.1) id UAA06005; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 20:48:29 -0600 (CST) From: Rich Winkel Message-Id: <199911060248.UAA06005@chumbly.math.missouri.edu> Subject: Re: StarOffice5.1a To: rich@chumbly.math.missouri.edu (Rich Winkel) Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 20:48:29 -0600 (CST) Cc: joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu, stabilizer@klentaq.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <199911052118.PAA00762@chumbly.math.missouri.edu> from "Rich Winkel" at Nov 5, 99 03:18:59 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Never mind!!! The machine was running 3.2 ... Thanks, Rich To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Nov 5 21:30:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (sol.cc.u-szeged.hu [160.114.8.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8DFD14CB7 for ; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 21:30:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (8.9.1b+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id GAA05996; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 06:30:43 +0100 (MET) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local-smtp (Exim 2.05 #1 (Debian)) id 11jyf0-00080D-00; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 06:45:10 +0100 Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 06:45:05 +0100 (CET) From: Adam Szilveszter Reply-To: Adam Szilveszter To: Rich Winkel Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: StarOffice5.1a In-Reply-To: <199911052118.PAA00762@chumbly.math.missouri.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 5 Nov 1999, Rich Winkel wrote: > I wish I could say the same... the install appears to go without a hitch > until I try the "Setting up the end user" section. At that point it > tells me it's already installed and gives me a choice of > modifying the installation, deinstalling or repairing. Running repair > as root doesn't help. > Has anyone seen this before? Hi! Have you tried the earlier instructions that are at: http://www.serv.net/~mcglk/staroffice-install.html It worked for me then... The /net install did not seem to work up until quite recently so I was surprised to hear it mentioned at all. When I last checked (it was around ver 5.01) all it did was a normal workstation install (in fact it ignored the parameter and that's all) But this was understandable at that point because SO was still for private use only and therefore a net install was out of the question. However this may still cause problems...also the applicat.rdb replacement is new to me (and did NOT seem to work for a German version of SO I still get the error msg on startup) and what is more bugging, the database module does not work at all unless this has been fixed as well and I am completely out of sync:-) Cheers! Szilveszter ADAM > > Thanks, > Rich > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- * Adam Szilveszter * JATE Szeged * email: sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu * * Homepage : none * alternate email: cc@flanker.itl.net.ua * * Finger sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu for PGP key. * * I prefer using the door instead of Windows(tm)... * To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 6 3:23:42 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from awfulhak.org (dynamic-87.max4-du-ws.dialnetwork.pavilion.co.uk [212.74.9.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBD4914DE2 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 03:23:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00359; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 11:23:30 GMT (envelope-from brian@lan.awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost.lan.Awfulhak.org [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA00327; Fri, 5 Nov 1999 16:59:58 GMT (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <199911051659.QAA00327@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.0 09/18/1999 To: "Lowkrantz, Goran" Cc: "'stable@FreeBSD.ORG'" , brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: uu_lock semantics In-Reply-To: Message from "Lowkrantz, Goran" of "Thu, 04 Nov 1999 00:37:08 +0100." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 16:59:57 +0000 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > System: 3.3-STABLE FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE #1: Wed Nov 3 06:36:59 CET 1999 > > Two questions about uu_lock that have surfaced during a test. > > 1- Should a second call to uu_lock for the same resource from the same > process without a call to uu_unlock between them return "UU_LOCK_INUSE: The > lock is in use by another process.", because that is what I get. This is what I'd expect. If the application doesn't know that it's already got the lock, then it's likely that it'll try to open the device a second time, expecting to have exclusive access to the device. > 2- I assume that uu_lock should be called before first open and uu_unlock > after last close, as open and close have no connection to the lock handling. > Is this true? Yes. > Regarding question 1, I understand why it should be so, but I think this > could be documented on the man-page, as it's easy to assume recursive locks. Patches are always welcome :-) > Cheers, > GLZ > > --- > Goran Lowkrantz Email : goran.lowkrantz@infologigruppen.se > Infologigruppen Alfa AB Telephone: Nat 070-587 8782 Fax: Nat 070-615 > 8782 > Box 202 Int +46 70-587 8782 Int +46 70-615 > 8782 > 941 25 Pitea, Sweden -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 6 4:10:38 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (blaubaer.kn-bremen.de [195.37.179.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6961414D75 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 04:10:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (uucp@localhost) by blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id NAA04119; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 13:09:16 +0100 Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.9.3/8.8.5) id MAA35365; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 12:43:40 +0100 (MET) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 12:43:40 +0100 (MET) From: Juergen Lock Message-Id: <199911061143.MAA35365@saturn.kn-bremen.de> To: zzhang@cs.binghamton.edu Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk X-Newsgroups: local.list.freebsd.stable In-Reply-To: References: <199911051534.HAA02236@dingo.cdrom.com> Organization: home Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article you write: >Also, Linux can boot from a floppy. Can FreeBSD does similar things (boot >from a floppy and then use data on the hard drive)? Seems so, use a modified kern.flp with your kernel and change its loader.rc: remove the loading of the mfsroot image and add a line that sets currdev to point to your root fs (you can use lsdev in the loader to find it), and you should be ready to go. (I first tried setting rootdev instead but that seems to be getting ignored completely at least when booting from a floppy.) Btw i remember reading in a commitlog that the concept of a `current device' in loader is about to go, so maybe now this no longer works in -current... (Maybe this should be added to the FAQ as a method of last resort when the BIOS boot code can't see above cyl 1024?) Regards, -- Juergen Lock (remove dot foo from address to reply) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 6 5:20:50 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wookie.bellsouth.cl (bellsouth.cl [206.48.84.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F36C14D6F for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 05:20:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from marcelo@msm.cl) Received: from stgo.cl (postfix@stgo.cl [206.48.86.98]) by wookie.bellsouth.cl (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA26035 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 10:18:03 -0300 Received: from marcelo.msm.cl (marcelo.stgo.cl [192.168.1.1]) by stgo.cl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A023C19345F for ; Sat, 06 Nov 1999 10:18:49 +0000 (GMT) Message-Id: <4.2.0.58.19991106102013.01652d10@server> X-Sender: miturbe@server X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.0.58 Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 10:20:46 -0400 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Marcelo J. Iturbe" Subject: Problems with XF86 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I have a Pentium III 450Mhz, 128 RAM, 256 Swap (one partition), 7.7 gigs IDE mounted on / AOpen PG128 with 4megs of ram. I actually managed to get a standard VGA 8bit server going. but the problem= =20 is that it is soooo slow. It takes over 30 minutes for the KDE interface to= =20 come up! And once it is up, any move of the mouse takes about 2 minutes to= =20 process. I did a telnet from a remote PC and ran TOP from the prompt. this is what I= got last pid: 470; load=20 averages: 0.80, 0.53, 0.41 up=20 0+01:18:52 22:02:24 46 processes: 2 running, 43 sleeping, 1 zombie CPU states: 100.0% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 0.0%= idle Mem: 13M Active, 24M Inact, 15M Wired, 8351K Buf, 71M Free Swap: 256M Total, 256M Free PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND 395 root 102 0 7536K 6508K RUN 16:31 97.90% 97.90% XF86_SVGA 400 root 2 0 4600K 3816K select 0:02 0.00% 0.00% kwm The swap is not being used AT ALL! what's wrong? thanks Marcelo *********************************************** ICQ 22921676 MSM Interactive. Dario Urzua 1940, Providencia, Chile. Phone: (56-2)204-3510=A0 Fax: (56-2) 204-3508 Email: marcelo@msm.cl=A0=A0=A0=A0http://www.msm.cl ******************************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 6 5:35:19 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from megaweapon.zigg.com (megaweapon.zigg.com [206.114.60.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7405B14D6F for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 05:35:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by megaweapon.zigg.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA14217; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 08:34:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 08:34:07 -0500 (EST) From: Matt Behrens To: Juergen Lock Cc: zzhang@cs.binghamton.edu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk In-Reply-To: <199911061143.MAA35365@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Juergen Lock wrote: : In article you write: : >Also, Linux can boot from a floppy. Can FreeBSD does similar things (boot : >from a floppy and then use data on the hard drive)? : Seems so, use a modified kern.flp with your kernel and change its : loader.rc: remove the loading of the mfsroot image and add a line : that sets currdev to point to your root fs (you can use lsdev in : the loader to find it), and you should be ready to go. (I first : tried setting rootdev instead but that seems to be getting ignored : completely at least when booting from a floppy.) I had a system with a 3.7GB drive and a BIOS that refused to boot off it. Boy, it confused the hell out of Windows. :-) In any event, I wanted to put my own kernels on there while tracking -STABLE so I made a minimal disk with /boot stuff and threw a new kernel.gz on there every time I rebuilt the kernel. It was surprisingly easy once I sat down and read the manpages (up until then I'd been sheltered from newfs and disklabel by the "friendlier" tools in sysinstall) :-) : (Maybe this should be added to the FAQ as a method of last resort when : the BIOS boot code can't see above cyl 1024?) I definitely agree. Maybe there should even be a Makefile option while building a kernel to put it on a mounted floppy instead of always putting it in / when install is called. (``make KERNTARGET=/mnt install''?) This I can contribute patches for, if it's generally considered A Good Thing(TM)... :-) Matt Behrens Owner/Administrator, zigg.com Chief Engineer, Nameless IRC Network To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 6 5:45: 4 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ares.maths.adelaide.edu.au (ares.maths.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.246.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40F5214D6F for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 05:44:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from glewis@ares.maths.adelaide.edu.au) Received: (from glewis@localhost) by ares.maths.adelaide.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA55740; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 00:14:48 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from glewis) From: Greg Lewis Message-Id: <199911061344.AAA55740@ares.maths.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: CTM updates In-Reply-To: <3821BD8B.91CD0F40@math.missouri.edu> from Stephen Montgomery-Smith at "Nov 4, 1999 05:08:27 pm" To: Stephen Montgomery-Smith Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 00:14:48 +1030 (CST) Cc: FreeBSD Stable X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL56 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I notice that there have been no updates to the CTM stuff at > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/CTM/ > since Nov 2. Is that because things are relatively static, > or is something else going on? Looks like something else as there are no ctm deltas for any of the different trees appear on the ftp site since then. I don't know if there have been any distributed by email (as I get all my deltas via ftp) but I'd be interested to find out. -- Greg Lewis glewis@trc.adelaide.edu.au Computing Officer +61 8 8303 5083 Teletraffic Research Centre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 6 10:55:43 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (blaubaer.kn-bremen.de [195.37.179.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8511D14F14 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 10:55:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (uucp@localhost) by blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id TAA10924; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:53:37 +0100 Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.9.3/8.8.5) id TAA46669; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:52:19 +0100 (MET) From: Juergen Lock Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:52:18 +0100 To: Matt Behrens Cc: zzhang@cs.binghamton.edu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk Message-ID: <19991106195218.A46653@saturn.kn-bremen.de> References: <199911061143.MAA35365@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I forgot: On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 08:34:07AM -0500, Matt Behrens wrote: > I definitely agree. Maybe there should even be a Makefile option > while building a kernel to put it on a mounted floppy instead of > always putting it in / when install is called. (``make KERNTARGET=/mnt > install''?) make install DESTDIR=/mnt :), -- Juergen Lock (remove dot foo from address to reply) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 6 10:55:46 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (blaubaer.kn-bremen.de [195.37.179.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AB2014ED5 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 10:55:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (uucp@localhost) by blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id TAA10921; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:53:36 +0100 Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.9.3/8.8.5) id TAA46399; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:42:56 +0100 (MET) From: Juergen Lock Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:42:56 +0100 To: Matt Behrens Cc: zzhang@cs.binghamton.edu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk Message-ID: <19991106194256.A45418@saturn.kn-bremen.de> References: <199911061143.MAA35365@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 08:34:07AM -0500, Matt Behrens wrote: > On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Juergen Lock wrote: > > : In article you write: > > : >Also, Linux can boot from a floppy. Can FreeBSD does similar things (boot > : >from a floppy and then use data on the hard drive)? > > : Seems so, use a modified kern.flp with your kernel and change its > : loader.rc: remove the loading of the mfsroot image and add a line > : that sets currdev to point to your root fs (you can use lsdev in > : the loader to find it), and you should be ready to go. (I first > : tried setting rootdev instead but that seems to be getting ignored > : completely at least when booting from a floppy.) > > I had a system with a 3.7GB drive and a BIOS that refused to boot > off it. Boy, it confused the hell out of Windows. :-) In any > event, I wanted to put my own kernels on there while tracking > -STABLE so I made a minimal disk with /boot stuff and threw a new > kernel.gz on there every time I rebuilt the kernel. It was > surprisingly easy once I sat down and read the manpages (up until > then I'd been sheltered from newfs and disklabel by the "friendlier" > tools in sysinstall) :-) An easier (for newbies) method would be to just dd the kern.flp image to another floppy, mount it, and change the kernel and loader.rc. And in case of the newbie who just installed and cannot boot and who hasn't got another BSD box around to do this on, he can even use the kern.flp as it is if he just leaves it in the drive at the `insert mfsroot' prompt (ignoring the error), stops the autoboot countdown, does a lsdev and sets currdev by hand, followed by `boot'. (And when the system is up, create his custom boot floppy.) Oh and the bootable CD might work for this too, if you first `unload' to get rid of the mfsroot image, `load /kernel' again and then set currdev... > > : (Maybe this should be added to the FAQ as a method of last resort when > : the BIOS boot code can't see above cyl 1024?) > > I definitely agree. Maybe there should even be a Makefile option > while building a kernel to put it on a mounted floppy instead of > always putting it in / when install is called. (``make KERNTARGET=/mnt > install''?) And if we add a loader command that sets currdev to the first non-floppy ufs root found (or could this be done in forth too? :) we could even distribute a general emergency-boot-floppy... Regards, -- Juergen Lock (remove dot foo from address to reply) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 6 11:16:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from megaweapon.zigg.com (megaweapon.zigg.com [206.114.60.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFF6014F30 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 11:15:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Received: from localhost (matt@localhost) by megaweapon.zigg.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA14790; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 14:14:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@zigg.com) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 14:14:38 -0500 (EST) From: Matt Behrens To: Juergen Lock Cc: zzhang@cs.binghamton.edu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk In-Reply-To: <19991106195218.A46653@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Juergen Lock wrote: : I forgot: : : On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 08:34:07AM -0500, Matt Behrens wrote: : : > I definitely agree. Maybe there should even be a Makefile option : > while building a kernel to put it on a mounted floppy instead of : > always putting it in / when install is called. (``make KERNTARGET=/mnt : > install''?) : : make install DESTDIR=/mnt Doh! Serves me right for not RTFM (reading the fscking Makefile) :-) Matt Behrens Owner/Administrator, zigg.com Chief Engineer, Nameless IRC Network To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 6 11:31:39 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97BF114BE0 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 11:31:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA63148; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 11:30:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199911061930.LAA63148@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk In-Reply-To: <19991106195218.A46653@saturn.kn-bremen.de> from Juergen Lock at "Nov 6, 1999 07:52:18 pm" To: nox@jelal.kn-bremen.de (Juergen Lock) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 11:30:39 -0800 (PST) Cc: matt@zigg.com (Matt Behrens), zzhang@cs.binghamton.edu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I forgot: > > On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 08:34:07AM -0500, Matt Behrens wrote: > > > I definitely agree. Maybe there should even be a Makefile option > > while building a kernel to put it on a mounted floppy instead of > > always putting it in / when install is called. (``make KERNTARGET=/mnt > > install''?) > > make install DESTDIR=/mnt This has bugs in it, it flobbs with /var/db/kvm_kernel.db and should not do any of that stuff unless DESTDIR is null or / or / equiv. :-(. -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 6 12:46:14 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nisser.com (c1870039.telekabel.chello.nl [212.187.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD16714F6B for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 12:46:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Received: from nisser.com (roelof [10.0.0.2]) by nisser.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id VAA19884; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 21:51:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from roelof@nisser.com) Message-ID: <3824939D.7E453DAB@nisser.com> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 21:46:21 +0100 From: Roelof Osinga Organization: eboa - engineering buro Office Automation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Smith Cc: Randy Bush , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk References: <199911040836.AAA00488@dingo.cdrom.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Smith wrote: > > "Chose easyboot"? Here's the best fix: > > - Boot the install floppy. When the little spinning widget appears > and stops, hit the spacebar. At the 'boot:" prompt, type > > wd(0,a)/boot/loader > > This should get the loader off the disk OK, and boot you fine. > > - Once you're up and running, read the manpage for boot0inst. You > want to install boot0 on wd0, and enable the 'packet' option. This > should get you going. > > All of the FreeBSD boot path apart from boot0 seems to work just fine > > 1024 cylinders. I haven't personally tested over the 8GB mark though. Nice, if the boot process can work with the CHS driver. The problem is that is not always the case. E.g. mine. So you can't *get* up and running. Hence you need the diskettes which don't *have* the boot0cfg. End of story. Even if one has a 2nd FreeBSD system standing by one is still SOL. You can copy the boot0cfg onto the fixit, but what about the ld-elf shared lib? So all this is very nice. If you can get your system to boot, i.e. to get it past boot0 stage. Since clearly we can't... It would've been nice if - boot defaulted to packet instead of CHS - boot had the -o packet option - the install disks could be used to access ones root disk - the steps to do so would be outlined - people that yell RTFM would be automatically throttled Roelof -- Home is where the (@) http://eboa.com/ is. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 6 12:49:44 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles549.castles.com [208.214.165.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2DFA14C9E for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 12:49:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07163; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 12:40:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199911062040.MAA07163@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Juergen Lock Cc: zzhang@cs.binghamton.edu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 Nov 1999 12:43:40 +0100." <199911061143.MAA35365@saturn.kn-bremen.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 12:40:47 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > >Also, Linux can boot from a floppy. Can FreeBSD does similar things (boot > >from a floppy and then use data on the hard drive)? > > Seems so, use a modified kern.flp with your kernel and change its > loader.rc: remove the loading of the mfsroot image and add a line > that sets currdev to point to your root fs (you can use lsdev in > the loader to find it), and you should be ready to go. (I first > tried setting rootdev instead but that seems to be getting ignored > completely at least when booting from a floppy.) Rootdev ought to work, actually. But if you get it wrong, the loader will fall back to using currdev.a > Btw i remember reading in a commitlog that the concept of a `current > device' in loader is about to go, so maybe now this no longer works in > -current... The model I'm currently looking at tries to hide the way the loader thinks about devices as much as possible simply because it's too confusing. In -current the "best" way to tell your loaded kernel where to find its root filesystem is with the vfs.root.mountfrom tunable. > (Maybe this should be added to the FAQ as a method of last resort when > the BIOS boot code can't see above cyl 1024?) From what I've been hearing from people lately, in most cases it's 8GB that's the new sound barrier, but yes, a FAQ entry is probably worth writing. Go to it! -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 6 13: 6:35 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (castles549.castles.com [208.214.165.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C548A14C38 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 13:06:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Received: from dingo.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dingo.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA07266; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 12:57:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@dingo.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <199911062057.MAA07266@dingo.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.2 2/24/98 To: Roelof Osinga Cc: Mike Smith , Randy Bush , FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 06 Nov 1999 21:46:21 +0100." <3824939D.7E453DAB@nisser.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 12:57:10 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > "Chose easyboot"? Here's the best fix: > > > > - Boot the install floppy. When the little spinning widget appears > > and stops, hit the spacebar. At the 'boot:" prompt, type > > > > wd(0,a)/boot/loader > > > > This should get the loader off the disk OK, and boot you fine. > > > > - Once you're up and running, read the manpage for boot0inst. You > > want to install boot0 on wd0, and enable the 'packet' option. This > > should get you going. > > > > All of the FreeBSD boot path apart from boot0 seems to work just fine > > > 1024 cylinders. I haven't personally tested over the 8GB mark though. > > Nice, if the boot process can work with the CHS driver. The problem > is that is not always the case. E.g. mine. So you can't *get* up and > running. Ok. Would you care to share some details of your problems, rather than just the bile and vitriol? > Hence you need the diskettes which don't *have* the boot0cfg. End of > story. Even if one has a 2nd FreeBSD system standing by one is still > SOL. You can copy the boot0cfg onto the fixit, but what about the > ld-elf shared lib? Build it static. > So all this is very nice. If you can get your system to boot, i.e. to > get it past boot0 stage. Since clearly we can't... "We" being whom, here? Most of us can just fine. If your BIOS won't translate "right" past the 1024 cylinder mark then you're in the minority these days. But even then, you can build a new boot1/boot2 with packet-mode as default enabled and install them on the floppy. The loader doesn't do packet mode yet simply because I haven't found a case where it's been needed. > It would've been nice if > > - boot defaulted to packet instead of CHS That wouldn't have been nice; we tested it (I've mentioned this publically before), and it kills quite a number of machines dead. You wouldn't have been able to boot them at all. That would have been bad. > - boot had the -o packet option I don't follow what you're suggesting here. > - the install disks could be used to access ones root disk They can. > - the steps to do so would be outlined They have been, but ideally there shouldn't be any magic required. > - people that yell RTFM would be automatically throttled That's stupid. Documentation exists to save our time and effort. If you're too lazy to read it, you've got it coming to you. TFM still tells you to put the root filesystem below 1024 cylinders. In most cases, you can get away with anything up to 8GB, but we don't document that because of people like yourself. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 6 14:44: 9 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.geocrawler.com (police.varesearch.com [209.81.8.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57C67150DE for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 14:43:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nobody@www.geocrawler.com) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by www.geocrawler.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA31263; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 14:44:01 -0800 Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 14:44:01 -0800 Message-Id: <199911062244.OAA31263@www.geocrawler.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Kernel routing table question From: "Jean Delaney" Reply-To: "Jean Delaney" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message was sent from Geocrawler.com by "Jean Delaney" Be sure to reply to that address. Hi, I have ed0,ed1,lo0 ed1 is dhcp. I am use to linux way. Is this normal default 24.200.7.1 UGSc 11 1 ed1 24.200.7/24 link#1 UC 0 0 ed1 24.200.7.1 8:0:3e:7:e:9b UHLW 12 0 ed1 24.200.7.157 127.0.0.1 UGHS 0 0 lo0 (this line) 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 2 47 lo0 192.168 link#2 UC 0 0 ed0 192.168.0.255 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff: UHLWb 3 49 ed0 Is the route mark (this line) normal. I read the man page and is a static route manualy added. But I never add this route. Thanks Jean Geocrawler.com - The Knowledge Archive To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 6 15:52:52 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1FF7A14F16 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 15:52:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@wintelcom.net) Received: from localhost (bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11358; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 16:17:03 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 16:17:03 -0800 (PST) From: Alfred Perlstein To: Jean Delaney Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Kernel routing table question In-Reply-To: <199911062244.OAA31263@www.geocrawler.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, 6 Nov 1999, Jean Delaney wrote: > This message was sent from Geocrawler.com by "Jean Delaney" > Be sure to reply to that address. > > Hi, > > I have ed0,ed1,lo0 > > ed1 is dhcp. > > I am use to linux way. > > Is this normal > > default 24.200.7.1 UGSc 11 1 ed1 > 24.200.7/24 link#1 UC 0 0 ed1 > 24.200.7.1 8:0:3e:7:e:9b UHLW 12 0 ed1 > 24.200.7.157 127.0.0.1 UGHS 0 0 lo0 (this line) > 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 2 47 lo0 > 192.168 link#2 UC 0 0 ed0 > 192.168.0.255 ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff: UHLWb 3 49 ed0 > > Is the route mark (this line) normal. > > I read the man page and is a static route manualy added. > > But I never add this route. FreeBSD will show arp entries in the routing table, this is normal. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 6 16:29:26 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from procyon.meridian-enviro.com (thunder.meridian-enviro.com [207.109.234.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61BAC14F93 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 16:29:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rand@meridian-enviro.com) Received: from deneb.meridian-enviro.com (deneb.meridian-enviro.com [10.10.10.32]) by procyon.meridian-enviro.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA15086; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 18:29:22 -0600 (CST) Received: (from rand@localhost) by deneb.meridian-enviro.com (8.9.2/8.9.2) id SAA46600; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 18:29:22 -0600 (CST) To: Warner Losh Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress Pro/10+ on -stable References: <199911030619.XAA18084@harmony.village.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=-=-=" From: rand@meridian-enviro.com (Douglas K. Rand) Date: 06 Nov 1999 18:29:22 -0600 In-Reply-To: Warner Losh's message of "Tue, 2 Nov 1999 23:19:06 -0700 (MST)" Message-ID: <87d7tni1p9.fsf@deneb.meridian-enviro.com> Lines: 62 User-Agent: Gnus/5.07008 (Pterodactyl Gnus v0.80) XEmacs/21.1 (20 Minutes to Nikko) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --=-=-= ** Warner Losh on Tue, 2 Nov 1999 23:19:06 -0700 (MST) ** in [Intel EtherExpress Pro/10+ on -stable] writes: Warner> I've had 0 luck getting my Intel EtherExpress PRO/10+ working Warner> on my 3.3-stable system. It never seems to get interrupts. Warner> I've disabled plug and play, and have tried it at two Warner> differend IRQs, which I set with the softset2 program that Warner> came with my etherpro 10+ (version 3.5). Has anybody managed Warner> to make one of these work in a -stable system? I ran into a problem with the ISA Intel EtherExpress Pro/10+ in that the ex driver used the hardware address to determine if the card is a Pro/10 or a Pro/10+. If you have a Pro/10+ and the ethernet address doesn't start with 00:A0:C9 then you need to patch if_ex.c to recognize the new hardware address prefix as a Pro/10+. Here is the diff I did to if_ex.c to get it to work for me: --=-=-= Content-Type: text/plain; name=diff Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=diff Content-Description: if_ex.c-patch --- if_ex.c-orig Tue Sep 28 04:57:33 1999 +++ if_ex.c Tue Sep 28 04:59:29 1999 @@ -207,9 +207,9 @@ tmp = eeprom_read(iobase, EE_IRQ_No) & IRQ_No_Mask; /* work out which set of irq <-> internal tables to use */ - if (sc->arpcom.ac_enaddr[0] == 0x00 && - sc->arpcom.ac_enaddr[1] == 0xA0 && - sc->arpcom.ac_enaddr[2] == 0xC9) { /* it's a 10+ */ + if ((sc->arpcom.ac_enaddr[0] == 0x00 && sc->arpcom.ac_enaddr[1] == 0xA0 && sc->arpcom.ac_enaddr[2] == 0xC9) || + (sc->arpcom.ac_enaddr[0] == 0x00 && sc->arpcom.ac_enaddr[1] == 0x90 && sc->arpcom.ac_enaddr[2] == 0x27)) { + /* it's a 10+ */ sc->irq2ee = plus_irq2eemap; sc->ee2irq = plus_ee2irqmap; } else { /* it's an ordinary 10 */ @@ -277,9 +277,8 @@ if_attach(ifp); ether_ifattach(ifp); - if (sc->arpcom.ac_enaddr[0] == 0x00 && - sc->arpcom.ac_enaddr[1] == 0xA0 && - sc->arpcom.ac_enaddr[2] == 0xC9) { + if ((sc->arpcom.ac_enaddr[0] == 0x00 && sc->arpcom.ac_enaddr[1] == 0xA0 && sc->arpcom.ac_enaddr[2] == 0xC9) || + (sc->arpcom.ac_enaddr[0] == 0x00 && sc->arpcom.ac_enaddr[1] == 0x90 && sc->arpcom.ac_enaddr[2] == 0x27)) { printf("ex%d: Intel EtherExpress Pro/10+, address %6D, connector ", dev->id_unit, sc->arpcom.ac_enaddr, ":"); } else { printf("ex%d: Intel EtherExpress Pro/10, address %6D, connector ", dev->id_unit, sc->arpcom.ac_enaddr, ":"); --=-=-= --=-=-=-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 6 19:21:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (blaubaer.kn-bremen.de [195.37.179.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EFCE14DB4 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:21:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (uucp@localhost) by blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id EAA26900; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 04:19:46 +0100 Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.9.3/8.8.5) id DAA64929; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 03:18:30 +0100 (MET) From: Juergen Lock Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 03:18:29 +0100 To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Matt Behrens , zzhang@cs.binghamton.edu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk Message-ID: <19991107031828.A59629@saturn.kn-bremen.de> References: <19991106195218.A46653@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <199911061930.LAA63148@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <199911061930.LAA63148@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 11:30:39AM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > I forgot: > > > > On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 08:34:07AM -0500, Matt Behrens wrote: > > > > > I definitely agree. Maybe there should even be a Makefile option > > > while building a kernel to put it on a mounted floppy instead of > > > always putting it in / when install is called. (``make KERNTARGET=/mnt > > > install''?) > > > > make install DESTDIR=/mnt > > This has bugs in it, it flobbs with /var/db/kvm_kernel.db and should > not do any of that stuff unless DESTDIR is null or / or / equiv. Hmm. I actually looked at the make -n output but missed that bug (oops!) What would break if we just used ${DESTDIR}/var/db/kvm_kernel.db there too? Somehow i would believe it isn't doing it that way for a reason... Regards, -- Juergen Lock (remove dot foo from address to reply) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 6 19:21:23 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (blaubaer.kn-bremen.de [195.37.179.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F146A14DBF for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:21:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (uucp@localhost) by blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id EAA26906; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 04:19:47 +0100 Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.9.3/8.8.5) id EAA67266; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 04:15:25 +0100 (MET) From: Juergen Lock Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 04:15:24 +0100 To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: Matt Behrens , zzhang@cs.binghamton.edu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk Message-ID: <19991107041524.C59629@saturn.kn-bremen.de> References: <19991106195218.A46653@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <199911061930.LAA63148@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <199911061930.LAA63148@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Once again i forgot something, sorry... On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 11:30:39AM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > I forgot: > > > > On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 08:34:07AM -0500, Matt Behrens wrote: > > > > > I definitely agree. Maybe there should even be a Makefile option > > > while building a kernel to put it on a mounted floppy instead of > > > always putting it in / when install is called. (``make KERNTARGET=/mnt > > > install''?) > > > > make install DESTDIR=/mnt > > This has bugs in it, it flobbs with /var/db/kvm_kernel.db and should > not do any of that stuff unless DESTDIR is null or / or / equiv. And to go on a floppy a kernel also needs to be objcopy -g 'd if its built with -g and usually(?) it needs to be gzipped too. So the DESTDIR alone still won't do it in many cases even if this is fixed. i guess we need a new target... Regards, -- Juergen Lock (remove dot foo from address to reply) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 6 19:21:30 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (blaubaer.kn-bremen.de [195.37.179.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9469115009 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 19:21:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nox@saturn.kn-bremen.de) Received: from saturn.kn-bremen.de (uucp@localhost) by blaubaer.kn-bremen.de (8.9.1/8.9.1) with UUCP id EAA26903; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 04:19:47 +0100 Received: (from nox@localhost) by saturn.kn-bremen.de (8.9.3/8.8.5) id DAA66653; Sun, 7 Nov 1999 03:54:55 +0100 (MET) From: Juergen Lock Date: Sun, 7 Nov 1999 03:54:54 +0100 To: Mike Smith Cc: zzhang@cs.binghamton.edu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk Message-ID: <19991107035454.B59629@saturn.kn-bremen.de> References: <199911061143.MAA35365@saturn.kn-bremen.de> <199911062040.MAA07163@dingo.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.7i In-Reply-To: <199911062040.MAA07163@dingo.cdrom.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 12:40:47PM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > > >Also, Linux can boot from a floppy. Can FreeBSD does similar things (boot > > >from a floppy and then use data on the hard drive)? > > > > Seems so, use a modified kern.flp with your kernel and change its > > loader.rc: remove the loading of the mfsroot image and add a line > > that sets currdev to point to your root fs (you can use lsdev in > > the loader to find it), and you should be ready to go. (I first > > tried setting rootdev instead but that seems to be getting ignored > > completely at least when booting from a floppy.) > > Rootdev ought to work, actually. But if you get it wrong, the loader > will fall back to using currdev.a Hmm then thats strange. I first tried rootdev, which didn't work, and then later currdev, which did work, and i believe i used the same value both times! Or was rootdev fixed only recently, the boot floppies i had lying around and tested this on weren't the latest... > > > Btw i remember reading in a commitlog that the concept of a `current > > device' in loader is about to go, so maybe now this no longer works in > > -current... > > The model I'm currently looking at tries to hide the way the loader > thinks about devices as much as possible simply because it's too > confusing. Well its just the BIOS' way to think about devices, isn't it? > In -current the "best" way to tell your loaded kernel where > to find its root filesystem is with the vfs.root.mountfrom tunable. But since the kernel isn't using the BIOS to mount its root that of course still makes much more sense. (no need to fiddle with root_disk_unit if the disk is on the second IDE channel and there aren't two more on the first, or if there are both IDE and SCSI disks...) > > > (Maybe this should be added to the FAQ as a method of last resort when > > the BIOS boot code can't see above cyl 1024?) > > From what I've been hearing from people lately, in most cases it's 8GB > that's the new sound barrier, Yea, probably true with later boards. (anyone know if there's a real technical reason for that, or just again short-sightedness of the BIOS writers? I mean first 32M if i remember right, then 512M, then 2G, now 8G... shouldn't everyone know by now that disks are getting bigger all the time?) > but yes, a FAQ entry is probably worth > writing. Go to it! Thats what i get for saying such things... :) Well OK, once i know why `rootdev' didn't work i should have a try. Regards, -- Juergen Lock (remove dot foo from address to reply) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 6 20:45:15 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 341CA14D9D for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 20:45:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA63937; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 20:44:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <199911070444.UAA63937@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: easyboot far into disk In-Reply-To: <19991107031828.A59629@saturn.kn-bremen.de> from Juergen Lock at "Nov 7, 1999 03:18:29 am" To: nox@jelal.kn-bremen.de (Juergen Lock) Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 20:44:57 -0800 (PST) Cc: matt@zigg.com (Matt Behrens), zzhang@cs.binghamton.edu, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 11:30:39AM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > I forgot: > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 06, 1999 at 08:34:07AM -0500, Matt Behrens wrote: > > > > > > > I definitely agree. Maybe there should even be a Makefile option > > > > while building a kernel to put it on a mounted floppy instead of > > > > always putting it in / when install is called. (``make KERNTARGET=/mnt > > > > install''?) > > > > > > make install DESTDIR=/mnt > > > > This has bugs in it, it flobbs with /var/db/kvm_kernel.db and should > > not do any of that stuff unless DESTDIR is null or / or / equiv. > > Hmm. I actually looked at the make -n output but missed that bug (oops!) > > What would break if we just used ${DESTDIR}/var/db/kvm_kernel.db > there too? Somehow i would believe it isn't doing it that way for > a reason... The fact that ${DESTDIR}/var/db may not even exist if I am using DESTDIR to stuff a kernel someplace safe. Think about it... the purpose of frobbing with /var/db/kvm_kernel.db is becuase you _MAY_ be frobbing the kernel running image and libkvm doesn't like it when /kernel and /bar/db/kvm_kernel.db are missmatched. (I think this code is also seriously broken for the case that you booted some other kernel. It should only be frobbing things if the file it is about to replace is the file returned by ``sysctl kern.bootfile'', in all other cases it should do nothing more than install the file.) -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Nov 6 22:46:33 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E5414FF4 for ; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 22:46:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA84282; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 23:46:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA03065; Sat, 6 Nov 1999 23:45:28 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <199911070645.XAA03065@harmony.village.org> To: rand@meridian-enviro.com (Douglas K. Rand) Subject: Re: Intel EtherExpress Pro/10+ on -stable Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "06 Nov 1999 18:29:22 CST." <87d7tni1p9.fsf@deneb.meridian-enviro.com> References: <87d7tni1p9.fsf@deneb.meridian-enviro.com> <199911030619.XAA18084@harmony.village.org> Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 23:45:28 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <87d7tni1p9.fsf@deneb.meridian-enviro.com> Douglas K. Rand writes: : I ran into a problem with the ISA Intel EtherExpress Pro/10+ in that : the ex driver used the hardware address to determine if the card is a : Pro/10 or a Pro/10+. If you have a Pro/10+ and the ethernet address : doesn't start with 00:A0:C9 then you need to patch if_ex.c to : recognize the new hardware address prefix as a Pro/10+. : : Here is the diff I did to if_ex.c to get it to work for me: The card is probing correctly in -stable. It just never interrupts. I think this is a different problem. -current is seems to just work. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message