From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Apr 23 0:38:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from tibor.org (cable-117-5-237-24.anchorageak.net [24.237.5.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85DE537B6E5 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 00:38:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tibor@tibor.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tibor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 214AA23805 for ; Sat, 22 Apr 2000 23:38:52 -0800 (AKDT) Date: Sat, 22 Apr 2000 23:38:51 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mike Tibor To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: TCP_Wrappers on FreeBSD Alpha System Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just finished installing 4.0-RELEASE on my PC164, and looking over /etc/inetd.conf it appeared that tcp_wrappers wasn't installed. However, doing "cd /usr/ports/security/tcp_wrapper ; make install", gives an error message telling me tcp_wrappers is in the base system. The thing is, the man pages for hosts_access(3) and (5) are installed, as are a couple of other things that belong to tcp_wrappers--in fact, pretty much everything except tcpd itself seem to be present. I'm brand new to FreeBSD, so be gentle with me :-) but is there any reason I couldn't comment out the following three lines from /usr/ports/security/tcp_wrapper/Makefile: .if exists(/usr/include/tcpd.h) FORBIDDEN= tcp_wrappers is in the base system .endif And then make install? -- Mike Tibor Univ. of Alaska Anchorage (907) 786-1001 voice Network Technician Consortium Library (907) 786-6050 fax tibor@lib.uaa.alaska.edu http://www.lib.uaa.alaska.edu/~tibor/ http://www.lib.uaa.alaska.edu/~tibor/pgpkey for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Apr 23 1: 8: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A7C237B5E8 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 01:08:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA21978; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 10:06:10 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [10.1.5.7]) by mail.cicely.de (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA14642; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 10:07:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA77046; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 10:08:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 10:07:59 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: Mike Tibor Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TCP_Wrappers on FreeBSD Alpha System Message-ID: <20000423100759.A77029@cicely5.cicely.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from tibor@tibor.org on Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 11:38:51PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Apr 22, 2000 at 11:38:51PM -0800, Mike Tibor wrote: > I just finished installing 4.0-RELEASE on my PC164, and looking over > /etc/inetd.conf it appeared that tcp_wrappers wasn't installed. However, > doing "cd /usr/ports/security/tcp_wrapper ; make install", gives an > error message telling me tcp_wrappers is in the base system. The thing > is, the man pages for hosts_access(3) and (5) are installed, as are a > couple of other things that belong to tcp_wrappers--in fact, pretty much > everything except tcpd itself seem to be present. Wrapper functionality is compiled directly into inetd, so you don't need to include it manualy in inetd.conf. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Apr 23 1:12: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ABBE37B893 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 01:11:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA22168; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 10:10:08 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [10.1.5.7]) by mail.cicely.de (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id KAA14655; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 10:11:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.9.3/8.9.2) id KAA77062; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 10:12:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 10:12:00 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: nm Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: scsi cable problems? Message-ID: <20000423101200.B77029@cicely5.cicely.de> References: <3.0.32.20000420201631.00cb6210@mail.vt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20000420201631.00cb6210@mail.vt.edu>; from nm@vt.edu on Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 08:16:32PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Apr 20, 2000 at 08:16:32PM -0400, nm wrote: > I just bought an 18GB uw scsi disk (hitachi). > It has an SCA->68pin adapter on it... During boot > up, the system hangs with these messages displayed: > > Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle > de0: enabling 10baseT port > ahc0:A:5: no active SCB for reconnecting target - issuing BUS DEVICE RESET > SAVED_TCL == 0x50, ARG_1 == 0xff, SEQ_FLAGS == 0x0 > > What do you think this means? Bad termination? > Bad cable? The cable and disk are brand new... This sound more like a firmware problem on the drive. It means that the drive comes back to say "I've completed you requested comand" and the OS says "I don't know of a request" Mostly it is because the firmware is buggy in handling TQC and processes comands twice. Can you send the complete dmesg part of the drive and controller? -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Apr 23 8:57:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C554537B955 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 08:57:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nm@vt.edu) Received: from mail.vt.edu (gkar.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.40]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA26644; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 11:57:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dog ([198.82.106.223]) by gkar.cc.vt.edu (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0FTH00JJI8BHEO@gkar.cc.vt.edu>; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 11:57:17 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 11:56:25 -0400 From: nm Subject: Re: scsi cable problems? X-Sender: nmanisca@mail.vt.edu To: Bernd Walter Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <3.0.32.20000423115624.008ffe30@mail.vt.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 10:12 AM 4/23/00 +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: >This sound more like a firmware problem on the drive. >It means that the drive comes back to say "I've completed you requested comand" >and the OS says "I don't know of a request" >Mostly it is because the firmware is buggy in handling TQC and processes >comands twice. Should I see if I can upgrade the firmware for this drive? Hmm, I just looked around on the manufacturer's web site (Hitachi) and I couldn't find anything about a firmware update for a hard drive. I have tried this drive in a windows nt pc on an adaptec 2940uw. The drive was listed in the adaptec's scan. The controller can verify the media and low level format it without problems, but while nt boots, the systems appears to hang for 10 seconds every other 10 second interval (assuming due to a scsi bus reset). This is an 'SCA-2' drive. I have a high quality SCA converter. Could it be possible that this converter is causing problems? Or do the messages indicate that the problem is with the drive itself? >Can you send the complete dmesg part of the drive and controller? Here are the kernel messages on boot up: Entering kernel at 0xfffffc0000322d20... Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #3: Sat Mar 25 13:27:35 EST 2000 fb@anomaly.stupid.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/ANOMALY AlphaStation 200/400 ("Avanti") AlphaStation 200 4/233, 233MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. CPU: EV45 (21064A) major=6 minor=0 OSF PAL rev: 0x100000002012e real memory = 132169728 (129072K bytes) avail memory = 125018112 (122088K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc0000592000. md0: Malloc disk pci0: on pcib0 ncr0: port 0x10100-0x101ff mem 0x82051000-0x820510ff ir q 11 at device 6.0 on pci0 ncr0: interrupting at ISA irq 11 ncr0: driver is using old-style compatability shims isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 de0: port 0x10280-0x102ff mem 0x82051180-0x820511ff irq 5 at device 11.0 on pci0 de0: interrupting at ISA irq 5 de0: DEC 21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.4 de0: address 00:00:f8:23:68:4f de0: driver is using old-style compatability shims ahc0: port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x82050000-0x82 050fff irq 10 at device 12.0 on pci0 ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ahc0: interrupting at ISA irq 10 de1: port 0x10200-0x1027f mem 0x82051100-0x820511 7f irq 15 at device 13.0 on pci0 de1: interrupting at ISA irq 15 de1: ACCTON EN1207 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.2 de1: address 00:00:e8:40:9e:c6 de1: enabling 100baseTX port de1: driver is using old-style compatability shims fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: interrupting at ISA irq 6 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60-0x6f on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd0: interrupting at ISA irq 1 mcclock0: at port 0x70-0x71 on isa0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A, console sio0: interrupting at ISA irq 4 sio1: reserved for low-level i/o pcm0: at port 0x530-0x537 irq 9 drq 0 flags 0x1a111 on isa0 drq/irq conf 84 pcm0: interrupting at ISA irq 9 Timecounter "alpha" frequency 233330328 Hz Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle de0: enabling 10baseT port ahc0:A:2: no active SCB for reconnecting target - issuing BUS DEVICE RESET SAVED_TCL == 0x20, ARG_1 == 0xff, SEQ_FLAGS == 0x0 (probe0:ahc0:0:2:1): SCB 0x39 - timed out in Data-in phase, SEQADDR == 0x157 (probe0:ahc0:0:2:1): BDR message in message buffer (probe0:ahc0:0:2:1): SCB 0x39 - timed out in Data-in phase, SEQADDR == 0x157 (probe0:ahc0:0:2:1): no longer in timeout, status = 34b ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 1 SCBs aborted ahc0:A:2: no active SCB for reconnecting target - issuing BUS DEVICE RESET SAVED_TCL == 0x20, ARG_1 == 0xff, SEQ_FLAGS == 0x0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Apr 23 9:25:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7170037B691 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 09:25:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA12789; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:23:47 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [10.1.5.7]) by mail.cicely.de (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id SAA15631; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:24:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA77843; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:25:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 18:25:23 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: nm , "Kenneth D. Merry" Cc: Bernd Walter , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: scsi cable problems? Message-ID: <20000423182522.A77760@cicely5.cicely.de> References: <3.0.32.20000423115624.008ffe30@mail.vt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3.0.32.20000423115624.008ffe30@mail.vt.edu>; from nm@vt.edu on Sun, Apr 23, 2000 at 11:56:25AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Apr 23, 2000 at 11:56:25AM -0400, nm wrote: > At 10:12 AM 4/23/00 +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: > ahc0:A:2: no active SCB for reconnecting target - issuing BUS DEVICE RESET > SAVED_TCL == 0x20, ARG_1 == 0xff, SEQ_FLAGS == 0x0 > (probe0:ahc0:0:2:1): SCB 0x39 - timed out in Data-in phase, SEQADDR == 0x157 > (probe0:ahc0:0:2:1): BDR message in message buffer > (probe0:ahc0:0:2:1): SCB 0x39 - timed out in Data-in phase, SEQADDR == 0x157 > (probe0:ahc0:0:2:1): no longer in timeout, status = 34b > ahc0: Issued Channel A Bus Reset. 1 SCBs aborted > ahc0:A:2: no active SCB for reconnecting target - issuing BUS DEVICE RESET > SAVED_TCL == 0x20, ARG_1 == 0xff, SEQ_FLAGS == 0x0 Ops - that's quite different if you show the complete thing! There are also timeouts - usually I would say it's a cabeling thing, but I had the same phaenomen on an alpha with a SCSI-System that was known to work on another host. Interestingly also with an ahc - in my case an 2940UW. Finally I exchanged the Adaptec with an Symbios-Controller and it works fine. Maybe that's really a bug on alpha with ahc controllers. I originally thought that it was still a cabeling problem eaven I searched and exchanged everthing possible as the Controller seemed to work with some narrow drives. But in my case it happened only under disk load and I'm not shure if the old narrow drives are capable of stressing the system as much as the two LVD 'cudas did. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Apr 23 10:13:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from sable.cc.vt.edu (sable.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A12237BB19 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 10:13:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nm@vt.edu) Received: from mail.vt.edu (gkar.cc.vt.edu [128.173.16.40]) by sable.cc.vt.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA29815; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 13:13:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dog ([198.82.106.223]) by gkar.cc.vt.edu (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2000.01.05.12.18.p9) with SMTP id <0FTH0032QBUQ0S@gkar.cc.vt.edu>; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 13:13:39 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 13:12:47 -0400 From: nm Subject: Re: scsi cable problems? X-Sender: nmanisca@mail.vt.edu To: Bernd Walter Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <3.0.32.20000423131246.038f5470@mail.vt.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 06:25 PM 4/23/00 +0200, Bernd Walter wrote: >Ops - that's quite different if you show the complete thing! >There are also timeouts - usually I would say it's a cabeling thing, but >I had the same phaenomen on an alpha with a SCSI-System that was known to >work on another host. >Interestingly also with an ahc - in my case an 2940UW. >Finally I exchanged the Adaptec with an Symbios-Controller and it works fine. >Maybe that's really a bug on alpha with ahc controllers. >I originally thought that it was still a cabeling problem eaven I searched and >exchanged everthing possible as the Controller seemed to work with some >narrow drives. But in my case it happened only under disk load and I'm not shure >if the old narrow drives are capable of stressing the system as much as the >two LVD 'cudas did. The SCA adapter can plug into either a narrow cable or wide cable. Hmm, here is what I have tested this drive on: windows pc with adaptec 2940uw (uw) - scsi bus resets alphastation 200 with adaptec 2940uw (uw) - what you saw Just now I booted my AS200 with the hitachi disk plugged into the onboard NCR controller (fast narrow). Here is what ensued: Entering kernel at 0xfffffc0000322d20... Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT #3: Sat Mar 25 13:27:35 EST 2000 fb@anomaly.stupid.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/ANOMALY AlphaStation 200/400 ("Avanti") AlphaStation 200 4/233, 233MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. CPU: EV45 (21064A) major=6 minor=0 OSF PAL rev: 0x100000002012e real memory = 132169728 (129072K bytes) avail memory = 125018112 (122088K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc0000592000. md0: Malloc disk pci0: on pcib0 ncr0: port 0x10100-0x101ff mem 0x82051000-0x820510ff ir q 11 at device 6.0 on pci0 ncr0: interrupting at ISA irq 11 ncr0: driver is using old-style compatability shims isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 de0: port 0x10280-0x102ff mem 0x82051180-0x820511ff irq 5 at device 11.0 on pci0 de0: interrupting at ISA irq 5 de0: DEC 21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.4 de0: address 00:00:f8:23:68:4f de0: driver is using old-style compatability shims ahc0: port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x82050000-0x82 050fff irq 10 at device 12.0 on pci0 ahc0: aic7880 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 16/255 SCBs ahc0: interrupting at ISA irq 10 de1: port 0x10200-0x1027f mem 0x82051100-0x820511 7f irq 15 at device 13.0 on pci0 de1: interrupting at ISA irq 15 de1: ACCTON EN1207 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.2 de1: address 00:00:e8:40:9e:c6 de1: enabling 100baseTX port de1: driver is using old-style compatability shims fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: interrupting at ISA irq 6 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60-0x6f on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd0: interrupting at ISA irq 1 mcclock0: at port 0x70-0x71 on isa0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A, console sio0: interrupting at ISA irq 4 sio1: reserved for low-level i/o pcm0: at port 0x530-0x537 irq 9 drq 0 flags 0x1a111 on isa0 drq/irq conf 84 pcm0: interrupting at ISA irq 9 Timecounter "alpha" frequency 233329432 Hz Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle de0: enabling 10baseT port ncr0: SCSI phase error fixup: CCB already dequeued (0xfffffe0000660400) ncr0: timeout nccb=0xfffffe0000660400 (skip) ncr0: timeout nccb=0xfffffe0000660400 (skip) . . . forever... So, is the the same kinda thing thats been happening on the adaptec's? Think the drive has problems? I am wondering if I should RMA this sucker. Thanks, Nick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Apr 23 16:40:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7C1E37B8EF for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 16:40:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id BAA25688 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 01:40:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA56468 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 00:37:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: porting Java to the alpha Date: 24 Apr 2000 00:37:42 +0200 Message-ID: <8dvtvm$1n46$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> References: To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Steve Price wrote: > 1) What are the contents of sigjmp_buf._sjb[*]? Any pointers > to some good Alpha assembly language docs would be great Talking about alpha assembly... I just did an "objdump -D" on alpha, and... well, the result doesn't look quite like what's described in the _Alpha Architecture Handbook_. I guess I can figure out the differences by disassembling the opcodes myself, but is this documented anywhere? -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Apr 23 17:18:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8523D37B886 for ; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 17:18:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sprice@hiwaay.net) Received: from localhost (sprice@localhost) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e3O0INV31884; Sun, 23 Apr 2000 19:18:23 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sun, 23 Apr 2000 19:18:23 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Price To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: porting Java to the alpha In-Reply-To: <8dvtvm$1n46$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 24 Apr 2000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: # Talking about alpha assembly... # I just did an "objdump -D" on alpha, and... well, the result doesn't # look quite like what's described in the _Alpha Architecture Handbook_. # I guess I can figure out the differences by disassembling the # opcodes myself, but is this documented anywhere? The best source I've found [1] for determining the contents of sigjmp_buf besides the source, {,sig}setjmp.S, in libc is the header file /usr/include/machine/signal.h. In particular look at the osigcontext struct. This is almost exactly the contents of sigjmp_buf. The biggest difference that I've found is that the old signal mask is at sigjmp_buf._sjb[71] which begins at sc_reserved[0] instead of in sc_mask as one would expect. HTH. -steve [1] The suggestion to look at osigcontext came from Doug Rabson. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 24 4:38:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBB1637B936 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 04:38:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from nlsys.demon.co.uk ([158.152.125.33] helo=herring.nlsystems.com) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12jhCH-000HCc-0C; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 11:38:38 +0000 Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA04417; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 12:47:53 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 12:44:03 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Steve Price Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: need help porting JDK2 to alpha In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 22 Apr 2000, Steve Price wrote: > Evening UberHackers, > > I'm working on porting JDK2 to FreeBSD/Alpha. I've run into two > stumbling blocks that are well beyond my skills as a programmer > to overcome. The first one should be relatively easy for someone > that knows their way around the Alpha architecture so I'll include > the details in this message. The other one requires a bit of > assembly language programming skills. If you are interested in > that, contact me off-list and I'll fill you in on the details. > > In the JDK there is a method, initContext, for initializing the > state of a context switch. I've attached the code that we use > on the i386, and my first cut at the alpha code. Any and all > suggestions/patches are most welcome. :) After looking at the code more closely, it seems that jmp_buf is actually a struct osigcontext. There appears to be a bug in the sigmask save/restore since the sigset_t is overlayed onto sc_reserved[0-1] as you have noticed but the longjmp implementation (actually osigreturn() in the kernel) restores the mask from sc->sc_mask. I think that either the setjmp code should initialise sc->sc_mask with the first 32 bits of sc_reserved or setjmp/longjmp should both start using struct sigcontext. The main difficulty with that as far as I can see is that struct sigcontext is 82 words long and struct osigcontext is 81 words. You can initialise the pc by setting sc->sc_pc. What are death_func and arg used for? If these are intended to be arguments to some function located at *pc, you can initialise sc->sc_regs[R_A0..R-A5] with up to six argument values. If you need the function at *pc to return to some specific location, set sc->sc_regs[R_RA] to a suitable return address. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 20 8442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 24 10:13:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from bw150zhb.bluewin.ch (bw150zhb.bluewin.ch [195.186.1.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F71937BB1B for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 10:13:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from carloma@bluewin.ch) Received: from bluewin.ch (bei131pub226.bluewin.ch [195.186.131.226]) by bw150zhb.bluewin.ch (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA23426 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:13:16 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <39048053.D60025D@bluewin.ch> Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:11:48 +0200 From: matteotti X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.2-19990726-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: ZLXP-E1 and PowerStorm3D30 supported ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello I've downloaded the '4.0-install.iso' from ftp:/ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/alpha/ISO-IMAGES/ for my Alpha 433au. Installation was successful except X-configuration. There seems to be ZLXp-E1/2/3 support (XF86_TGA - server). Question: Does FreeBSD4.0 support the graphics device PowerStorm 3D30 ? Thanks for any answer, C. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 24 11:47:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 395FC37B8D8 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 11:47:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@c04-194.006.popsite.net [216.126.137.194]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA36041; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 11:47:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA12833; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 11:47:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 11:47:11 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Rick McGee Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Password file coverting Message-ID: <20000424114710.E12417@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from rickm@sabrecross.com on Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 05:28:09PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Apr 21, 2000 at 05:28:09PM -0700, Rick McGee wrote: > > I have an Alpha 500a running freebsd 3.4, running lcrypt not des > encryption. What does: ls -l /usr/lib/libcrypt.* show? I am guessing it will show you are using "libscrypt". If so, you need to install the DES distribution. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 24 14:16:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5172237BC17 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 14:16:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id XAA06436 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 23:16:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA96562 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:37:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: vidcontrol kills 4.0-STABLE Date: 24 Apr 2000 21:37:46 +0200 Message-ID: <8e27qa$2u90$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Apparently I have managed to crash 4.0-STABLE on alpha (AXPpci33 with VGA) by doing a simple # vidcontrol -i adapter ; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 15:51:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kbagel@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 28624 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Apr 2000 22:49:39 -0000 Message-ID: <20000424224939.28623.qmail@web2001.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [132.170.41.141] by web2001.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 15:49:39 PDT Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 15:49:39 -0700 (PDT) From: GReg meno Subject: Does linux emulation work in 4.0 ? To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I had FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT installed a little while ago but went back to linux because. linux emulation did not seem to be there( some programs I can't live without). Are there plans for this in the near future, I'd love to help as my spring semester in college is almost out and I can now take to doing things that aren't school. TIA Greg Meno __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 24 17:47: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED31437B542 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 17:47:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA23370; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 20:43:30 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id UAA25305; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 20:43:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 20:43:29 -0400 (EDT) To: GReg meno Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Does linux emulation work in 4.0 ? In-Reply-To: <20000424224939.28623.qmail@web2001.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20000424224939.28623.qmail@web2001.mail.yahoo.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14596.59626.301058.648433@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org GReg meno writes: > I had FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT installed a little while ago > > but went back to linux because. linux emulation did > not seem to be there( some programs I can't live > without). > Are there plans for this in the near future, I'd love > to help as my spring semester in college is almost out > and I can now take to doing things that aren't school. > > TIA > Greg Meno > I started it, and then ran out of time, I'll probably get back to it later this spring, or early summer. You can get what I've done from: o http://www.freebsd.org/~gallatin/linux-alpha.diff.gz o http://www.freebsd.org/~gallatin/linux-alpha.tar.gz The diff is diffs to the kernel module build directory and sys/i386/linux to support alpha. The tar file is sys/alpha/linux. This was done in mid-late March against a pre-release 4.0. It should apply to 4.0-RELEASE w/o too much effort. You'll need to pull linux-base version 5.2 out of CVS to do anything useful. I'm using 5.2 for two reasons: One, I'd like to be able to run em86 -- the fx!32 equiv for Linux/alpha that allows running Linux/i386 binaries like Acroread. This supposedly only works with 5.2. It doesn't work yet under emulation. The x86 app makes about 4 system calls & segvs. Sigh. I'm also using 5.2 because of a really bizzare problem I'm having. For some reason, when a linux signal handler returns, it calls #344 & then exits rather than calling #103 (#103 is their sigreturn too, because it is osf's). I'm using our sigcode.. This has me totally stumped. I'm looking for help here. Rather than tracking it down, I've changed #344 (linux_getresgid) to call sigreturn(). This means we cannot run any RH 6.1 until this is tracked down. If you make any progress, please let me know. Cheers, Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 24 19:28:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04CF37BC4F; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:28:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA25227; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:39:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA25422; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:39:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:39:31 -0400 (EDT) To: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, yokota@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vidcontrol kills 4.0-STABLE In-Reply-To: <8e27qa$2u90$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> References: <8e27qa$2u90$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14596.62653.979522.393187@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Christian Weisgerber writes: > Apparently I have managed to crash 4.0-STABLE on alpha (AXPpci33 > with VGA) by doing a simple > > # vidcontrol -i adapter > I'm not sure what happened exactly since I won't have access to > the console before tomorrow. The box doesn't respond to ping and > it doesn't get up again, so it looks pretty fatal. > > Can anybody else reproduce this? The machine probably crashed. I've duplicated the crash on my home box: #0 0xfffffc0000399174 in boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:302 #1 0xfffffc0000399930 in panic (fmt=0xfffffc000057de6c "trap") at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:554 #2 0xfffffc0000510250 in trap (a0=18446744065119617760, a1=1, a2=0, entry=2, framep=0xfffffe0007e1b850) at ../../alpha/alpha/trap.c:546 #3 0xfffffc00005021cc in XentMM () at ../../alpha/alpha/exception.s:94 #4 0xfffffc000052daa8 in fb_commonioctl (adp=0xfffffc00005fe988,cmd=0, arg=0xfffffe0000942400 "") at machine/pmap.h:140 #5 0xfffffc0000532920 in vga_dev_ioctl (adp=0xfffffc00005fe988,cmd=0, arg=0xfffffe0000942400 "") at ../../dev/fb/vga.c:2951 #6 0xfffffc000053fd5c in sc_vid_ioctl (tp=0xfffffc0000600790, cmd=0, data=0xfffffe0000942400 "", flag=0, p=0x0) at ../../dev/syscons/scvidctl.c:580 #7 0xfffffc0000541fe0 in scioctl (dev=0x0, cmd=3233309541, data=0xfffffe0000942400 "", flag=3, p=0xfffffe00076b66c0) at ../../dev/syscons/syscons.c:674 #8 0xfffffc00003c2afc in cnioctl (dev=0xfffffc00005e6728,cmd=3233309541, data=0xfffffe0000942400 "", flag=3, p=0xfffffe00076b66c0) at ../../kern/tty_cons.c:383 #9 0xfffffc00003f9ff4 in spec_ioctl (ap=0xfffffe0007e1bd30) at ../../miscfs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:304 #10 0xfffffc00003f9acc in spec_vnoperate (ap=0x0) at ../../miscfs/specfs/spec_vnops.c:117 <...> The problem is the call to vtophys around line of sys/dev/fb.c From the value in my crash, it looks like this is an IO address, not a virtual address: (kgdb) p/x adp->va_info->vi_window $7 = 0xb8000 I don't know enough about how the return values of this ioctl are used to know how to fix it My knee jerk reaction is to do the following. I'm wondering what the syscons author thinks? Index: fb.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/dev/fb/fb.c,v retrieving revision 1.11 diff -u -r1.11 fb.c --- fb.c 1999/12/07 11:23:58 1.11 +++ fb.c 2000/04/25 01:36:14 @@ -719,7 +719,11 @@ ((video_adapter_info_t *)arg)->va_mem_base = adp->va_mem_base; ((video_adapter_info_t *)arg)->va_mem_size = adp->va_mem_size; ((video_adapter_info_t *)arg)->va_window +#ifdef __i386__ = vtophys(adp->va_window); +#else + = adp->va_window; +#endif ((video_adapter_info_t *)arg)->va_window_size = adp->va_window_size; ((video_adapter_info_t *)arg)->va_window_gran @@ -727,7 +731,11 @@ ((video_adapter_info_t *)arg)->va_window_orig = adp->va_window_orig; ((video_adapter_info_t *)arg)->va_unused0 +#ifdef __i386__ = (adp->va_buffer) ? vtophys(adp->va_buffer) : 0; +#else + = adp->va_buffer; +#endif ((video_adapter_info_t *)arg)->va_buffer_size = adp->va_buffer_size; ((video_adapter_info_t *)arg)->va_mode = adp->va_mode; Cheers, Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 24 19:48:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from web2003.mail.yahoo.com (web2003.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.68.203]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 589B237BD29 for ; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:48:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kbagel@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 20090 invoked by uid 60001); 25 Apr 2000 02:48:37 -0000 Message-ID: <20000425024837.20089.qmail@web2003.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [132.170.41.141] by web2003.mail.yahoo.com; Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:48:37 PDT Date: Mon, 24 Apr 2000 19:48:37 -0700 (PDT) From: GReg meno Subject: Re: Does linux emulation work in 4.0 ? To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --- Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > GReg meno writes: > > I had FreeBSD 4.0-CURRENT installed a little > while ago > > > > but went back to linux because. linux emulation > did > > not seem to be there( some programs I can't live > > without). > > Are there plans for this in the near future, I'd > love > > to help as my spring semester in college is > almost out > > and I can now take to doing things that aren't > school. > > > > TIA > > Greg Meno > > > > I started it, and then ran out of time, I'll > probably get back to it > later this spring, or early summer. You can get > what I've done from: > > o > http://www.freebsd.org/~gallatin/linux-alpha.diff.gz > o > http://www.freebsd.org/~gallatin/linux-alpha.tar.gz > > The diff is diffs to the kernel module build > directory and > sys/i386/linux to support alpha. The tar file is > sys/alpha/linux. > This was done in mid-late March against a > pre-release 4.0. It should > apply to 4.0-RELEASE w/o too much effort. > > You'll need to pull linux-base version 5.2 out of > CVS to do anything > useful. I'm using 5.2 for two reasons: > > One, I'd like to be able to run em86 -- the fx!32 > equiv for > Linux/alpha that allows running Linux/i386 binaries > like Acroread. > This supposedly only works with 5.2. It doesn't > work yet under > emulation. The x86 app makes about 4 system calls & > segvs. Sigh. em86 has been something of a problem in alpha/linux land, I really don't think it's very useful right now. I think some are still working on making it work with the new glibc. You should be able to run Acroread through DU/OSF1/Tru64 emulation. It works well this way in linux. > > I'm also using 5.2 because of a really bizzare > problem I'm having. > For some reason, when a linux signal handler > returns, it calls #344 & > then exits rather than calling #103 (#103 is their > sigreturn too, > because it is osf's). I'm using our sigcode.. This > has me totally > stumped. I'm looking for help here. > > Rather than tracking it down, I've changed #344 > (linux_getresgid) to > call sigreturn(). This means we cannot run any RH > 6.1 until this is > tracked down. > > If you make any progress, please let me know. I should get sometime to look at it around wednesday. Thanks Greg meno > > Cheers, > > Drew > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer > http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin > Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu > Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) > 660-6590 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the > message > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 25 15:20: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A57537B56F for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.cdrom.com [204.216.28.153]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA42848; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:19:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA03586; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:19:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:19:25 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: GReg meno Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Does linux emulation work in 4.0 ? Message-ID: <20000425151925.A3496@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20000425024837.20089.qmail@web2003.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000425024837.20089.qmail@web2003.mail.yahoo.com>; from kbagel@yahoo.com on Mon, Apr 24, 2000 at 07:48:37PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Apr 24, 2000 at 07:48:37PM -0700, GReg meno wrote: > You should be able to run Acroread through DU/OSF1/Tru64 emulation. It > works well this way in linux. Yes we do, and you are right -- it does work nicely. :) -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 25 16:27:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57D137B8DF for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:27:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.cdrom.com [204.216.28.153]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA43124 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:27:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA04032 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:27:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 16:27:09 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: (FWD) houston, we have a problem here.... Message-ID: <20000425162709.C3988@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Forwarded message The change you made to kern_random.c breaks kernel builds on the alpha because inthand2_t is defined differently between i386 && alpha. ----- End forwarded message ----- At the moment kernel builds are broken on the Alpha. Unfortunately other kernel build breakage got in my way. I hope to have this fixed tonight. -- David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 25 17:14:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.196.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A2E837B77C for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:14:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (IDENT:cJjlapJCOYcz2Gi9KC3H7h4YlmC2SGoG@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by outmail.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7Wpl2) with ESMTP id JAA06353; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:14:34 +0900 (JST) Received: from zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp [160.12.42.1]) by zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp (8.7.6+2.6Wbeta7/3.4W/zodiac-May96) with ESMTP id JAA02254; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:21:11 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200004260021.JAA02254@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp> To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber), freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org, yokota@zodiac.mech.utsunomiya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: vidcontrol kills 4.0-STABLE Inreply-to: Your message of "Mon, 24 Apr 2000 21:39:31 -0400." <14596.62653.979522.393187@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> References: <8e27qa$2u90$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> <14596.62653.979522.393187@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:21:10 +0900 From: Kazutaka YOKOTA Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [...] > > # vidcontrol -i adapter > > > I'm not sure what happened exactly since I won't have access to > > the console before tomorrow. The box doesn't respond to ping and > > it doesn't get up again, so it looks pretty fatal. > > > > Can anybody else reproduce this? > > >The machine probably crashed. I've duplicated the crash on my home >box: [...] >The problem is the call to vtophys around line of sys/dev/fb.c >>From the value in my crash, it looks like this is an IO address, not a >virtual address: > >(kgdb) p/x adp->va_info->vi_window >$7 = 0xb8000 > >I don't know enough about how the return values of this ioctl are used >to know how to fix it My knee jerk reaction is to do the following. >I'm wondering what the syscons author thinks? Ah, ha, I see. This is fine. Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 25 17:15:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0031037B5BE for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:15:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id CAA16155 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 02:15:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA51543 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 00:45:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: SRM questions (mildly off-topic) Date: 26 Apr 2000 00:45:10 +0200 Message-ID: <8e575m$1ia9$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org These questions are only very tenuously related to FreeBSD: * How do I interrupt SRM's autoboot sequence on start-up? Following the example in INSTALL.TXT, I have set SRM to boot from disk automatically. Now if I want to break into the SRM boot on power-on or after a reset, I need to wait until the FreeBSD loader has come up and issue the "halt" command there. There *must* be some way to interrupt SRM to avoid an infinite reboot loop in case of catastrophic bootstrap failure. * The SRM in "my" AXPpci33 dates from 1996, from the decaxppci33_v1_6.exe update file on ftp.digital.com. Can this version handle a 100Base-TX card? Obviously, SRM only needs to support an ethernet card for netbooting. We'll probably never actually use this, but for purely aesthetical reasons it's a nice capability to have. Currently the machine has a DE435 (DEC 21040) 10M-TP/BNC/AUI-Combo card, probably what it originally shipped with. SRM recognizes this card. Today, I experimentally put in a KNE100TX (DEC 21140A). Surprise! SRM recognizes this card, too. I do wonder whether it will put the NIC into 100Mbit/s mode, though. When I booted up FreeBSD, de(4) had the card into 10Base-T half-duplex mode although it was connected to a 100Base-TX full-duplex switch port. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 25 17:22:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B743137B539; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:22:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from semuta.feral.com (semuta [192.67.166.70]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA10048; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:21:48 -0700 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:22:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "David O'Brien" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: (FWD) houston, we have a problem here.... In-Reply-To: <20000425162709.C3988@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, David O'Brien wrote: > ----- Forwarded message > The change you made to kern_random.c breaks kernel builds on the alpha because > inthand2_t is defined differently between i386 && alpha. > ----- End forwarded message ----- > > At the moment kernel builds are broken on the Alpha. Unfortunately other > kernel build breakage got in my way. I hope to have this fixed tonight. > So, uh, what am I missing here...So, why *can't* inthand2_t's arg be a 'void *' on alpha? Index: alpha/alpha/machdep.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/alpha/alpha/machdep.c,v retrieving revision 1.73 diff -u -r1.73 machdep.c --- alpha/alpha/machdep.c 2000/04/15 05:53:06 1.73 +++ alpha/alpha/machdep.c 2000/04/26 00:06:31 @@ -2115,13 +2115,3 @@ p->p_md.md_flags |= MDP_FPUSED; } - -/* - * dummy version of read_random() until the random driver is ported. - */ -int read_random __P((void)); -int -read_random(void) -{ - return (0); -} Index: alpha/include/types.h =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/alpha/include/types.h,v retrieving revision 1.11 diff -u -r1.11 types.h --- alpha/include/types.h 1999/12/29 04:28:00 1.11 +++ alpha/include/types.h 2000/04/26 00:06:31 @@ -68,6 +68,6 @@ typedef __uint32_t intrmask_t; /* Interrupt handler function type - arg should be "void *" one day */ -typedef void inthand2_t(int _unit); +typedef void inthand2_t(void *); #endif /* _MACHTYPES_H_ */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 25 17:30:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from jking1.lgc.com (jking1.lgc.com [134.132.228.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C40DE37BDD1 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 17:30:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from king@sstar.com) Received: from marble (marble [134.132.228.8]) by jking1.lgc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA04012; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:30:10 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from king@sstar.com) Message-ID: <003b01bfaf16$959b0890$08e48486@marble> From: "Jim King" To: "Christian Weisgerber" , References: <8e575m$1ia9$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> Subject: Re: SRM questions (mildly off-topic) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 19:30:10 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Christian Weisgerber wrote: > These questions are only very tenuously related to FreeBSD: > > * How do I interrupt SRM's autoboot sequence on start-up? > > Following the example in INSTALL.TXT, I have set SRM to boot from > disk automatically. Now if I want to break into the SRM boot on > power-on or after a reset, I need to wait until the FreeBSD loader > has come up and issue the "halt" command there. There *must* be > some way to interrupt SRM to avoid an infinite reboot loop in > case of catastrophic bootstrap failure. Ctrl-C works. I'm not sure precisely when you're supposed to type it to interrupt the boot sequence, but it doesn't seem to be very critical. > * The SRM in "my" AXPpci33 dates from 1996, from the decaxppci33_v1_6.exe > update file on ftp.digital.com. Can this version handle a 100Base-TX > card? > > Obviously, SRM only needs to support an ethernet card for > netbooting. We'll probably never actually use this, but for purely > aesthetical reasons it's a nice capability to have. Currently > the machine has a DE435 (DEC 21040) 10M-TP/BNC/AUI-Combo card, > probably what it originally shipped with. SRM recognizes this > card. Today, I experimentally put in a KNE100TX (DEC 21140A). > Surprise! SRM recognizes this card, too. I do wonder whether it > will put the NIC into 100Mbit/s mode, though. When I booted up > FreeBSD, de(4) had the card into 10Base-T half-duplex mode although > it was connected to a 100Base-TX full-duplex switch port. I have a Netgear 21140 card in my AS200. SRM recognizes it, so I assume it would be able to netboot off it. I've never tried though. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 25 20:23:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F58037B55F for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 20:23:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sprice@hiwaay.net) Received: from localhost (sprice@localhost) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e3Q3LuW16352; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 22:21:56 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 22:21:56 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Price To: Doug Rabson Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: need help porting JDK2 to alpha In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, Doug Rabson wrote: # After looking at the code more closely, it seems that jmp_buf is actually # a struct osigcontext. I had come to the same conclusion. # There appears to be a bug in the sigmask # save/restore since the sigset_t is overlayed onto sc_reserved[0-1] as you # have noticed but the longjmp implementation (actually osigreturn() in the # kernel) restores the mask from sc->sc_mask. I think that either the setjmp # code should initialise sc->sc_mask with the first 32 bits of sc_reserved # or setjmp/longjmp should both start using struct sigcontext. The main # difficulty with that as far as I can see is that struct sigcontext is 82 # words long and struct osigcontext is 81 words. I think at least having 32 bits of the signal mask in sc_mask is much better than the current situation of using a completely incorrect value. # You can initialise the pc by setting sc->sc_pc. What are death_func and # arg used for? If these are intended to be arguments to some function # located at *pc, you can initialise sc->sc_regs[R_A0..R-A5] with up to six # argument values. If you need the function at *pc to return to some # specific location, set sc->sc_regs[R_RA] to a suitable return address. Great. I'll give these a whirl this weekend when I get back to my Alpha box. Thanks for the pointers Doug! :) -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 25 20:31:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from gw.one.com.au (gw.one.com.au [203.18.85.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B39E837B890 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 20:31:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from raymond@one.com.au) Received: from one.com.au (pmo.local [10.18.85.2]) by gw.one.com.au (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id NAA21450 for freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 13:31:41 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from raymond@one.com.au) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 13:31:41 +1000 (EST) From: User Raymond Message-Id: <200004260331.NAA21450@gw.one.com.au> Subject: Silly question on FreeBSD V4.0 Dist Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG I probably should remember this from somewhere, but could some one please tell me if the alpha distribution is included with the FreeBSD 4.0 2000 CD set? I have the set and it doesn't seem to be there. If this is correct, what's the best way to get an alpha distribution? Thank you Ray Newman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 25 20:46:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54D4E37BB69 for ; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 20:46:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <115226>; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 13:46:34 +1000 Content-return: prohibited From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: Silly question on FreeBSD V4.0 Dist In-reply-to: <200004260331.NAA21450@gw.one.com.au>; from raymond@one.com.au on Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 01:32:29PM +1000 To: User Raymond Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <00Apr26.134634est.115226@border.alcanet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <200004260331.NAA21450@gw.one.com.au> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 13:46:32 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2000-Apr-26 13:32:29 +1000, User Raymond wrote: >some one please tell me if the alpha distribution is >included with the FreeBSD 4.0 2000 CD set? The standard CD-ROMs are for i386 only. >If this is correct, what's the best way to get an alpha >distribution? - I think you can buy an Alpha CD-ROM distribution - Download boot floppies and then do an FTP install from ftp://ftp.au.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/4.0-RELEASE-alpha/ (or other suitable mirror - note that the directory structure is different on ftp.freebsd.org). - Download the CD-ROM image from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/alpha/ISO-IMAGES/ - Do a sysinstall from the 3.2 CD-ROM (which had a bootable Alpha distribution on disk2), extract 4.0 sources and make world. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 25 23:50: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2F9E37C048; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 23:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA10745; Tue, 25 Apr 2000 23:49:09 -0700 Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 23:50:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "David O'Brien" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: (FWD) houston, we have a problem here.... In-Reply-To: <20000425162709.C3988@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Fixed. Works for me. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 26 0:48:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2558B37BB4C for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 00:48:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@c04-031.006.popsite.net [216.126.137.31]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA44816; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 00:48:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id AAA03023; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 00:48:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 00:48:01 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: User Raymond Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Silly question on FreeBSD V4.0 Dist Message-ID: <20000426004801.A3001@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <200004260331.NAA21450@gw.one.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200004260331.NAA21450@gw.one.com.au>; from raymond@one.com.au on Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 01:31:41PM +1000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 01:31:41PM +1000, User Raymond wrote: > I probably should remember this from somewhere, but could > some one please tell me if the alpha distribution is > included with the FreeBSD 4.0 2000 CD set? The Alpha 4.0 CDROM bits are a different product. It is currently being pressed and should be back any day now. You should be able to place an order at www.freebsdmall.com right now, so you'll get it as soon as we get it in. -- -- David (obrien@cdrom.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 26 6: 9:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from zmamail03.zma.compaq.com (zmamail03.zma.compaq.com [161.114.64.103]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 108A637BD79 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 06:09:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael.waite@compaq.com) Received: by zmamail03.zma.compaq.com (Postfix, from userid 12345) id E54F3544; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:09:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exctay-gh01.tay.cpqcorp.net (exctay-gh01.tay.cpqcorp.net [16.103.129.42]) by zmamail03.zma.compaq.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC7A97DE; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:09:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by exctay-gh01.tay.cpqcorp.net with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <2X9698S5>; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:09:35 -0400 Message-ID: <212CC57E84B8D111AD780000F84AA049083C327B@mroexc2.tay.dec.com> From: "Waite, Michael" To: "'mjacob@feral.com'" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: switching from arc to srm Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:09:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have been getting many people who are interested in running FreeBSD on their systems previously running AlphaNT. They ask me where to they find the info that tells them how to change from arc to srm. As these are not "Digital" systems I am not sure how to do it. Are there places out there that have flash software to get srm running on a system that does not have both? I am just spoiled cause all of our systems have both. -----Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 26 6:29: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from future.kissswiss.com (future.kissswiss.com [194.209.230.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 85D8B37B846 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 06:28:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Tom.Knienieder@KISSswiss.com) Received: (qmail 18591 invoked from network); 26 Apr 2000 15:19:24 +0200 Received: from unknown (HELO KISSswiss.com) (knie@192.168.1.199) by 192.168.1.41 with SMTP; 26 Apr 2000 15:19:24 +0200 Message-ID: <3906ED6F.59456E6@KISSswiss.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 15:21:51 +0200 From: Tom Knienieder X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; OpenBSD 2.6 i386) X-Accept-Language: de-AT, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Waite, Michael" Cc: "'mjacob@feral.com'" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: switching from arc to srm References: <212CC57E84B8D111AD780000F84AA049083C327B@mroexc2.tay.dec.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Waite, Michael" wrote: > > I have been getting many people who are interested in running FreeBSD on > their systems previously running AlphaNT. > They ask me where to they find the info that tells them how to change from > arc to srm. > As these are not "Digital" systems I am not sure how to do it. > Are there places out there that have flash software to get srm running on a > system that does not have both? > > I am just spoiled cause all of our systems have both. this is for the 164sx (samsung, 533mhz) 1.) prepare 2 floppy disks. format them on a DOS-PC (normal FAT) 2.) go to http://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/readmes/v5.4/alphapc164sx/ download fwupdate.exe sx164_v5_4.sys 3.) put fwupdate.exe on the first DOS Floppy put sx164_v5_4.sys on the second DOS Floppy 4.) power off the alpha and open the case of your alpha 5.) set the "last" jumper to the "other" position. (the docu calls the jumper emergency something ....) 6.) put disk1 with fwupdate.exe in the floppy, start the alpha 7.) insert disk2 with the sx164_v5_4.sys file when the system asks for additional disks 8.) in the UPD >> do a: update fw -path fw_srm (this loads the srm firmware) 9.) ignore messages about not having found fw_nt. (at least my box has not enough onboard ram to hold alphabios and srm at the same time) 10.) exit the UPD, power off the machine. bring back the jumper on the motherboard in it's old position. 11.) reboot - your should be in the srm console now. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 26 6:49: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5763737BB76 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 06:49:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA24806; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:48:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA29237; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:48:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 09:48:59 -0400 (EDT) To: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SRM questions (mildly off-topic) In-Reply-To: <8e575m$1ia9$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> References: <8e575m$1ia9$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14598.60635.267789.180557@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Christian Weisgerber writes: > card. Today, I experimentally put in a KNE100TX (DEC 21140A). > Surprise! SRM recognizes this card, too. I do wonder whether it > will put the NIC into 100Mbit/s mode, though. When I booted up What does it tell you if you do >>> set ewb0_mode fastfd I have a KNE100TX in an AS200 & it doesn't work from the SRM console point of view. I don't remember if it sees the card or not. I do know that it will not put it into 100Mbit/s full-duplex mode & that I cannot netboot from it. > FreeBSD, de(4) had the card into 10Base-T half-duplex mode although > it was connected to a 100Base-TX full-duplex switch port. Did you try ifconfig de1 media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex ? BTW, if you're looking for a "high performance" network card for a low-end alpha, stay away from tulips. They require that that DMA addresses be aligned to a 4-byte boundary. Because of this & because and ethernet header is 14-bytes, all receives must be copied in the host so that the packet is naturally aligned after the ethernet header is stripped off. This will really kill your performance if you're running on a system with very poor memory bandwidth like the LCA series. 3coms should work fairly well... ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 26 8:58:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA5F137BF41 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 08:58:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA12115; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 08:57:38 -0700 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 08:58:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "Waite, Michael" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: switching from arc to srm In-Reply-To: <212CC57E84B8D111AD780000F84AA049083C327B@mroexc2.tay.dec.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If there is co-resident SRM f/w in these machines, there will be an ARC menu entry item (they'll have to hunt for it- I can't remember which submenu it's under) that says something like "Set up for booting Digital Unix after next power cycle". If there isn't, they have to make a DOS floppy (or get the FW cdrom) and put the appropriate for their platform fwupdate.exe and SRM do the 'update f/w' selection. I just did this recently for a PC164 I bought that had only ARC on it. You and they should note that Digital built some machines (I can't remember exactly which ones) that cannot possibly run FreeBSD-alpha (or Tru64 either)- there was, inside the chip, some address lines lasered out. This seemed to be strange for a number of reasons..talk about gelding (cough) the lily.... On Wed, 26 Apr 2000, Waite, Michael wrote: > I have been getting many people who are interested in running FreeBSD on > their systems previously running AlphaNT. > They ask me where to they find the info that tells them how to change from > arc to srm. > As these are not "Digital" systems I am not sure how to do it. > Are there places out there that have flash software to get srm running on a > system that does not have both? > > I am just spoiled cause all of our systems have both. > -----Mike > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 26 10:21:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay01.chello.nl (smtp.chello.nl [212.83.68.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC17237BE17 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:21:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay01.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 99c8f334c649856e3f2cdadc4054e412) with ESMTP id <20000426172154.DNJG10828.relay01@chello.nl>; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 19:21:54 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01279; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 19:21:43 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 19:21:43 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthew Jacob Cc: "Waite, Michael" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: switching from arc to srm Message-ID: <20000426192143.D1021@yedi.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl References: <212CC57E84B8D111AD780000F84AA049083C327B@mroexc2.tay.dec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 08:58:34AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 08:58:34AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > If there is co-resident SRM f/w in these machines, there will be an ARC menu > entry item (they'll have to hunt for it- I can't remember which submenu it's > under) that says something like "Set up for booting Digital Unix after next > power cycle". > > If there isn't, they have to make a DOS floppy (or get the FW cdrom) and put > the appropriate for their platform fwupdate.exe and SRM do the 'update f/w' > selection. I just did this recently for a PC164 I bought that had only ARC on > it. And to add to that: there are some machines that *only* have ARC available, there is no SRM in existence for them. Machines like XL266 etc come to mind. > You and they should note that Digital built some machines (I can't remember > exactly which ones) that cannot possibly run FreeBSD-alpha (or Tru64 either)- > there was, inside the chip, some address lines lasered out. This seemed to be > strange for a number of reasons..talk about gelding (cough) the lily.... This is an urban legend. The trick is done differently, although I cannot tell you how (NDA as part of my job contract at Compaq). There have been discussions about producing NT-only CPU silicon but all people I spoke to at our facility (we used to have the European repair site for Alpha systems/boards) deny that the idea of specific silicon was implemented. W/ -- Wilko Bulte Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 26 10:30:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from samspade.org (blighty.com [206.117.161.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C31F37BE27 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:30:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@blighty.com) Received: (qmail 17372 invoked by uid 500); 26 Apr 2000 17:30:28 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Apr 2000 17:30:28 -0000 Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:30:28 -0700 (PDT) From: steve@blighty.com Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: switching from arc to srm In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 26 Apr 2000, Matthew Jacob wrote: > You and they should note that Digital built some machines (I can't remember > exactly which ones) that cannot possibly run FreeBSD-alpha (or Tru64 either)- > there was, inside the chip, some address lines lasered out. This seemed to be > strange for a number of reasons..talk about gelding (cough) the lily.... Erm... I believe this is false folklore. I used to design Alphas for DEC and never heard of any such thing. There are some boxes which don't have OSF palcode available, which makes them effectively NT (and Linux, now) only, and I understand that some of the "NT-only" boxes have some system level tricks to prevent running OSF on them, despite their being near identical to systems sold with OSF. System level, not chip level, though. Cheers, Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 26 10:34:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay01.chello.nl (smtp.chello.nl [212.83.68.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5358437BC27 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:34:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay01.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 99c8f334c649856e3f2cdadc4054e412) with ESMTP id <20000426173445.DPSV10828.relay01@chello.nl>; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 19:34:45 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01412; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 19:34:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 19:34:34 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Peter Jeremy Cc: User Raymond , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Silly question on FreeBSD V4.0 Dist Message-ID: <20000426193433.I1021@yedi.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl References: <200004260331.NAA21450@gw.one.com.au> <00Apr26.134634est.115226@border.alcanet.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <00Apr26.134634est.115226@border.alcanet.com.au>; from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au on Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 01:46:32PM +1000 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 01:46:32PM +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: > On 2000-Apr-26 13:32:29 +1000, User Raymond wrote: > >some one please tell me if the alpha distribution is > >included with the FreeBSD 4.0 2000 CD set? > > The standard CD-ROMs are for i386 only. > > >If this is correct, what's the best way to get an alpha > >distribution? > > - I think you can buy an Alpha CD-ROM distribution > - Download boot floppies and then do an FTP install from > ftp://ftp.au.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/4.0-RELEASE-alpha/ > (or other suitable mirror - note that the directory structure is > different on ftp.freebsd.org). > - Download the CD-ROM image from > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/alpha/ISO-IMAGES/ > - Do a sysinstall from the 3.2 CD-ROM (which had a bootable Alpha > distribution on disk2), extract 4.0 sources and make world. Are you sure 3.2 was bootable on Alpha? I'm pretty sure O'brien added support for bootable CDs on 4.0R. Booting the 4.0R cd works like a charm. -- Wilko Bulte Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 26 10:38: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay02.chello.nl (relay02.chello.nl [212.83.68.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9A5437BD63 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:38:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay02.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 99c8f334c649856e3f2cdadc4054e412) with ESMTP id <20000426173750.PPPU22628.relay02@chello.nl>; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 19:37:50 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA01452; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 19:37:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 19:37:55 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SRM questions (mildly off-topic) Message-ID: <20000426193754.J1021@yedi.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl References: <8e575m$1ia9$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <8e575m$1ia9$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de>; from naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de on Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 12:45:10AM +0200 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 12:45:10AM +0200, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > These questions are only very tenuously related to FreeBSD: > > * How do I interrupt SRM's autoboot sequence on start-up? > > Following the example in INSTALL.TXT, I have set SRM to boot from > disk automatically. Now if I want to break into the SRM boot on > power-on or after a reset, I need to wait until the FreeBSD loader > has come up and issue the "halt" command there. There *must* be > some way to interrupt SRM to avoid an infinite reboot loop in > case of catastrophic bootstrap failure. Press the haltbutton ;-) Really, instead of a reset button like on PCs Alpha tend to have a halt switch. > * The SRM in "my" AXPpci33 dates from 1996, from the decaxppci33_v1_6.exe > update file on ftp.digital.com. Can this version handle a 100Base-TX > card? > > Obviously, SRM only needs to support an ethernet card for > netbooting. We'll probably never actually use this, but for purely > aesthetical reasons it's a nice capability to have. Currently > the machine has a DE435 (DEC 21040) 10M-TP/BNC/AUI-Combo card, > probably what it originally shipped with. SRM recognizes this > card. Today, I experimentally put in a KNE100TX (DEC 21140A). > Surprise! SRM recognizes this card, too. I do wonder whether it > will put the NIC into 100Mbit/s mode, though. When I booted up > FreeBSD, de(4) had the card into 10Base-T half-duplex mode although > it was connected to a 100Base-TX full-duplex switch port. I could not het my NoName to boot from a genuine DE500 card. YMMV. -- Wilko Bulte Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 26 10:54:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC08F37BD57 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:54:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@c03-118.006.popsite.net [216.126.136.118]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA47431; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:53:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA34837; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:53:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 10:53:52 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: wc.bulte@chello.nl Cc: Peter Jeremy , User Raymond , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Silly question on FreeBSD V4.0 Dist Message-ID: <20000426105352.A34742@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200004260331.NAA21450@gw.one.com.au> <00Apr26.134634est.115226@border.alcanet.com.au> <20000426193433.I1021@yedi.wbnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000426193433.I1021@yedi.wbnet>; from wkb@chello.nl on Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 07:34:34PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 07:34:34PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > - Do a sysinstall from the 3.2 CD-ROM (which had a bootable Alpha > > distribution on disk2), extract 4.0 sources and make world. > > Are you sure 3.2 was bootable on Alpha? I'm pretty sure O'Brien added > support for bootable CDs on 4.0R. Correct. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 26 11: 2:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay02.chello.nl (relay02.chello.nl [212.83.68.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B6837B85D for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 11:02:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay02.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 99c8f334c649856e3f2cdadc4054e412) with ESMTP id <20000426180242.PVNH22628.relay02@chello.nl> for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 20:02:42 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA01697 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 20:02:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 20:02:47 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: trying to get DE203 (ISA) to work on Alpha Message-ID: <20000426200247.C1581@yedi.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Question: are ISA ethernet cards supposed to work on FreeBSD/alpha (4.0R)? I have a DEC DE203 ISA card that I want to get to run on my Aspen Alpine (EB64+) but I'm not having a whole lot of success. The kernel has been built with: # DE203 device le0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 But nothing shows in the probe messages during boot: Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE #0: Fri Apr 7 10:48:12 CEST 2000 root@alpine.wbnet:/usr/src/sys/compile/ALPINE EB64+ Alpha 21064A Evaluation Board 274 MHz, 274MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. CPU: EV45 (21064A) major=6 minor=2 OSF PAL rev: 0x100070002012d real memory = 31473664 (30736K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x0012c000 - 0x002fbfff, 1900544 bytes (232 pages) 0x005e2000 - 0x01f0dfff, 26394624 bytes (3222 pages) avail memory = 27123712 (26488K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc00005e0000. found-> vendor=0x1000, dev=0x0001, revid=0x01 class=00-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=7 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 00010000, size 8 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base 81010000, size 8 found-> vendor=0x5333, dev=0x8811, revid=0x54 class=03-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=1 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 84000000, size 26 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x0484, revid=0x03 class=00-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 pci0: on pcib0 ncr0: port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x81010000-0x810100ff irq 7 at device 5.0 on pci0 BIOS values: SCNTL3:00 DMODE:00 DCNTL:01 CTEST3:00 CTEST4:00 CTEST5:00 ncr0: minsync=25, maxsync=206, maxoffs=8, 16 dwords burst, normal dma fifo ncr0: single-ended, open drain IRQ driver ncr0: interrupting at APECS irq 7 ncr0: driver is using old-style compatability shims pci0: (vendor=0x5333, dev=0x8811) at 7.0 irq 1 isab0: at device 8.0 on pci0 Bus Modes: Resource Lock, Mouse function enabled Keyboard controller: 60h,62h,64h,66h RTC: 70h-77h Configuration RAM: 0C00h,0800h-08FFh Port 92: enabled isa0: on isab0 Trying Read_Port at 203 Trying Read_Port at 243 Trying Read_Port at 283 Trying Read_Port at 2c3 Trying Read_Port at 303 Trying Read_Port at 343 Trying Read_Port at 383 Trying Read_Port at 3c3 isa_probe_children: disabling PnP devices isa_probe_children: probing non-PnP devices fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: interrupting at ISA irq 6 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60-0x6f on isa0 kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 kbd0: atkbd0, generic (0), config:0x0, flags:0x1f0000, port:0x60-0x6f atkbd0: interrupting at ISA irq 1 psm0: current command byte:0061 kbdc: TEST_AUX_PORT status:0000 kbdc: RESET_AUX return code:00fe kbdc: RESET_AUX return code:00fe kbdc: RESET_AUX return code:00fe kbdc: DIAGNOSE status:0055 kbdc: TEST_KBD_PORT status:0000 psm0: failed to reset the aux device. vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 fb0: vga0, vga, type:VGA (5), flags:0x7007f fb0: port:0x3c0-0x3df, crtc:0x3d4, mem:0xa0000 0x20000 fb0: init mode:24, bios mode:3, current mode:24 fb0: window:0xb8000 size:32k gran:32k, buf:0 size:32k VGA parameters upon power-up 50 18 10 00 00 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 04 02 14 01 05 03 07 38 3c 3a 3e 39 3d 3b 3f 04 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff VGA parameters in BIOS for mode 24 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 EGA/VGA parameters to be used for mode 24 50 18 10 00 00 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 55 81 bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 04 02 14 01 05 03 07 38 3c 3a 3e 39 3d 3b 3f 04 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0> sc0: fb0, kbd0, terminal emulator: sc (syscons terminal) mcclock0: at port 0x70-0x71 on isa0 Calibrating clock(s) ... PCC clock: 275008104 Hz (firmware 274725274 Hz) sio0: irq maps: 0x41 0x50 0x40 0x40 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A, console sio0: interrupting at ISA irq 4 sio1: reserved for low-level i/o isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices Timecounter "alpha" frequency 275008104 Hz bpf: lo0 attached bpf: gif0 attached bpf: gif1 attached bpf: gif2 attached bpf: gif3 attached bpf: stf0 attached bpf: faith0 attached Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle ncr0: restart (scsi reset). ACTUAL values:SCNTL3:03 DMODE:c8 DCNTL:01 CTEST3:00 CTEST4:08 CTEST5:00 (probe4:ncr0:0:4:0): INQUIRY. CDB: 12 1 80 0 ff 0 (probe4:ncr0:0:4:0): ILLEGAL REQUEST asc:24,0 (probe4:ncr0:0:4:0): Invalid field in CDB sks:c8,1 Creating DISK da0 Creating DISK cd0 pass0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 pass0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device pass0: Serial Number 122608527398 pass0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) pass1 at ncr0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 pass1: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device pass1: 4.237MB/s transfers (4.237MHz, offset 8) da0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: Serial Number 122608527398 da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8) da0: 1222MB (2503872 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 155C) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0a (cd0:ncr0:0:4:0): READ CD RECORDED CAPACITY. CDB: 25 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 (cd0:ncr0:0:4:0): NOT READY asc:3a,0 (cd0:ncr0:0:4:0): Medium not present cd0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 4.237MB/s transfers (4.237MHz, offset 8) cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present da0: invalid primary partition table: no magic Related question: is SRM's isacfg used at all with FreeBSD? Wilko (who until now always used PCI cards on his alpha machines..) -- Wilko Bulte Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 26 12:30: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.sdca.home.com (ha2.rdc1.sdca.home.com [24.0.3.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 805ED37B681 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 12:30:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from craig-burgess@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.0.178.21]) by mail.rdc1.sdca.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with ESMTP id <20000426192954.ZGVG20195.mail.rdc1.sdca.home.com@home.com>; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 12:29:54 -0700 Message-ID: <39074516.249E0E5E@home.com> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 12:35:50 -0700 From: Craig Burgess X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: wc.bulte@chello.nl Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: trying to get DE203 (ISA) to work on Alpha References: <20000426200247.C1581@yedi.wbnet> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wilko Bulte wrote: > > Question: are ISA ethernet cards supposed to work on FreeBSD/alpha (4.0R)? I hope that you aren't offended by the question, but did you note this and adjust accordingly? ------ The ISA and PCI compatability shims have been connected to the options COMPAT_OLDISA and COMPAT_OLDPCI. ------ cheerfully, craig -- ... mind like a steel trap: things wander in and get mangled ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 26 14: 0:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from balu.sch.bme.hu (balu.sch.bme.hu [152.66.224.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB4737BA55 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 13:59:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frts@simba.sch.bme.hu) Received: from simba.sch.bme.hu (simba.sch.bme.hu [152.66.227.11]) by balu.sch.bme.hu (8.9.2/8.9.2) with ESMTP id WAA18927 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 22:59:16 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from nala by simba.sch.bme.hu (8.8.8/1.1.22.3/07Jun99-0249PM) id XAA0000030047; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 23:00:59 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <004c01bfafc1$76d20ed0$1ee14298@sch.bme.hu> From: "Gyenes Istvan" To: "FreeBSD-alpha mailing list" References: <20000426200247.C1581@yedi.wbnet> Subject: Re: trying to get DE203 (ISA) to work on Alpha Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 22:53:18 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've also tried to use a DE203 without success...... -- frts ----- Original Message ----- From: Wilko Bulte To: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 8:02 PM Subject: trying to get DE203 (ISA) to work on Alpha > Question: are ISA ethernet cards supposed to work on FreeBSD/alpha (4.0R)? > > I have a DEC DE203 ISA card that I want to get to run on my Aspen Alpine > (EB64+) but I'm not having a whole lot of success. The kernel has been > built with: > > # DE203 > device le0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 > > But nothing shows in the probe messages during boot: > > > Related question: is SRM's isacfg used at all with FreeBSD? > > Wilko (who until now always used PCI cards on his alpha machines..) > -- > Wilko Bulte Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org > http://www.tcja.nl > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 26 14:57:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82F4837BB67 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 14:57:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id XAA02421 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 23:57:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA94056 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 22:30:41 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: switching from arc to srm Date: 26 Apr 2000 22:30:41 +0200 Message-ID: <8e7jlh$2rqq$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> References: <212CC57E84B8D111AD780000F84AA049083C327B@mroexc2.tay.dec.com> <20000426192143.D1021@yedi.wbnet> To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wilko Bulte wrote: > And to add to that: there are some machines that *only* have ARC available, > there is no SRM in existence for them. Machines like XL266 etc come to mind. And I still think we should list the known ones in alpha/HARDWARE.TXT. - XL266 - PC164UX If there are more, I'd like to know. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 26 23:15:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (adsl-63-202-176-132.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.176.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ED7C37B81D for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 23:15:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA00640; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 23:23:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200004270623.XAA00640@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: wc.bulte@chello.nl Cc: Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SRM questions (mildly off-topic) In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Apr 2000 19:37:55 +0200." <20000426193754.J1021@yedi.wbnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 23:23:38 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 12:45:10AM +0200, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > > These questions are only very tenuously related to FreeBSD: > > > > * How do I interrupt SRM's autoboot sequence on start-up? > > > > Following the example in INSTALL.TXT, I have set SRM to boot from > > disk automatically. Now if I want to break into the SRM boot on > > power-on or after a reset, I need to wait until the FreeBSD loader > > has come up and issue the "halt" command there. There *must* be > > some way to interrupt SRM to avoid an infinite reboot loop in > > case of catastrophic bootstrap failure. > > Press the haltbutton ;-) Really, instead of a reset button like on PCs Alpha > tend to have a halt switch. Some don't. Hit ^C. Lots. Note that, like the i386 bootstrap, you can hit a key while the early bootstrap is loading and select a loader other than the default /boot/loader. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 26 23:18:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (adsl-63-202-176-132.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.176.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20B3D37BEBE for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 23:18:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA00662; Wed, 26 Apr 2000 23:26:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200004270626.XAA00662@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: wc.bulte@chello.nl Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: trying to get DE203 (ISA) to work on Alpha In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 26 Apr 2000 20:02:47 +0200." <20000426200247.C1581@yedi.wbnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2000 23:26:10 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Question: are ISA ethernet cards supposed to work on FreeBSD/alpha (4.0R)? Some may. The various Lance drivers have always been pretty marginal; your results don't surprise me much. We definitely have ISA issues on the Tsunami-based systems; trying to use eg. the floppy drive in a DS20 will lock the machine solid. ISA soundcards don't work either. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 27 2:49: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from axl.ops.uunet.co.za (axl.ops.uunet.co.za [196.31.1.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F3037B51F for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 02:48:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sheldonh@axl.ops.uunet.co.za) Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.ops.uunet.co.za) by axl.ops.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12kkui-000LPN-00 for freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 11:48:52 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: CURRENT testers wanted Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 11:48:52 +0200 Message-ID: <82296.956828932@axl.ops.uunet.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, I have a patch associated with PR 17698 which I'd like to commit. It allows multiple kernels to be installed with the installkernel target and saves a few keystrokes. Given the following in /etc/make.conf: KERNEL= AXL AXLOPT GENERIC the installkernel target would install: AXL -> /kernel AXLOPT -> /kernel.AXLOPT GENERIC -> /kernel.GENERIC I've tested it thoroughly on the i386. I've also tested it on beast and it works. However, the only feedback I've had since my post to -hackers several weeks ago was that the patch broke the installkernel target. So now I have my own experience of it working, and the experience of one other person for whom it doesn't work. I can't reproduce the problem he saw at all. I'd really like some feedback on whether this works. Thanks, Sheldon. Index: Makefile.inc1 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/Makefile.inc1,v retrieving revision 1.145 diff -u -d -r1.145 Makefile.inc1 --- Makefile.inc1 2000/04/27 09:20:18 1.145 +++ Makefile.inc1 2000/04/27 09:46:38 @@ -339,6 +339,7 @@ # properly. KERNEL?= GENERIC GENERIC98 +DESTKERNEL?= kernel # The only exotic MACHINE_ARCH/MACHINE combination valid at this # time is i386/pc98. In all other cases set MACHINE equal to @@ -357,11 +358,14 @@ BUILDKERNELS= INSTALLKERNEL= +INSTALLKERNELS= .for _kernel in ${KERNEL} .if exists(${KRNLCONFDIR}/${_kernel}) BUILDKERNELS+= ${_kernel} .if empty(INSTALLKERNEL) INSTALLKERNEL= ${_kernel} +.else +INSTALLKERNELS+= ${_kernel} .endif .endif .endfor @@ -393,12 +397,25 @@ # # installkernel # -# Install the kernel defined by INSTALLKERNEL +# Install the kernel(s) defined by INSTALLKERNEL and INSTALLKERNELS # installkernel: + @echo + @echo "--------------------------------------------------------------" + @echo ">>> Installing kernel(s)" + @echo "--------------------------------------------------------------" + @echo "===> ${INSTALLKERNEL} as ${DESTDIR}/${DESTKERNEL}" cd ${KRNLOBJDIR}/${INSTALLKERNEL}; \ ${IMAKEENV} MACHINE=${MACHINE} KERNEL=${INSTALLKERNEL} \ - ${MAKE} install + DESTKERNEL=${DESTKERNEL} ${MAKE} install +.for _kernel in ${INSTALLKERNELS} + @echo "===> ${_kernel} as ${DESTDIR}/${DESTKERNEL}.${_kernel}" + cd ${KRNLOBJDIR}/${_kernel}; \ + ${IMAKEENV} MACHINE=${MACHINE} KERNEL=${_kernel} \ + DESTKERNEL=${DESTKERNEL}.${_kernel} ${MAKE} install +.endfor + + # # update Index: sys/conf/Makefile.alpha =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/conf/Makefile.alpha,v retrieving revision 1.50 diff -u -d -r1.50 Makefile.alpha --- sys/conf/Makefile.alpha 2000/04/08 14:16:56 1.50 +++ sys/conf/Makefile.alpha 2000/04/27 09:46:39 @@ -21,6 +21,7 @@ # Can be overridden by makeoptions or /etc/make.conf KERNEL?= kernel +DESTKERNEL?= ${KERNEL} STD8X16FONT?= iso .if !defined(S) @@ -254,16 +255,16 @@ echo "You must build a kernel first." ; \ exit 1 ; \ fi -.if exists(${DESTDIR}/${KERNEL}) - -chflags noschg ${DESTDIR}/${KERNEL} - mv ${DESTDIR}/${KERNEL} ${DESTDIR}/${KERNEL}.old +.if exists(${DESTDIR}/${DESTKERNEL}) + -chflags noschg ${DESTDIR}/${DESTKERNEL} + mv -f ${DESTDIR}/${DESTKERNEL} ${DESTDIR}/${DESTKERNEL}.old .endif install -c -m 555 -o root -g wheel -fschg \ - ${KERNEL}${.TARGET:S/install//} ${DESTDIR}/${KERNEL} + ${KERNEL}${.TARGET:S/install//} ${DESTDIR}/${DESTKERNEL} reinstall reinstall.debug: install -c -m 555 -o root -g wheel -fschg \ - ${KERNEL}${.TARGET:S/reinstall//} ${DESTDIR}/${KERNEL} + ${KERNEL}${.TARGET:S/reinstall//} ${DESTDIR}/${DESTKERNEL} config.o: ${NORMAL_C} To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 27 6:31:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A056437B84E for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 06:31:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from naddy@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id PAA10638 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 15:31:06 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from naddy@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: (from naddy@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA23195 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 12:33:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from naddy) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 12:33:54 +0200 From: Christian Weisgerber To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: ADSM with OSF/1 emulation? Message-ID: <20000427123354.E56426@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> Reply-To: Christian Weisgerber Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anybody tried to run the ADSM client for Digital UNIX on FreeBSD/alpha? -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 27 8:18: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFEC237B751; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 08:18:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA06036; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 11:17:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id LAA31557; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 11:17:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 11:17:58 -0400 (EDT) To: Mike Smith Cc: wc.bulte@chello.nl, FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: trying to get DE203 (ISA) to work on Alpha In-Reply-To: <200004270626.XAA00662@mass.cdrom.com> References: <20000426200247.C1581@yedi.wbnet> <200004270626.XAA00662@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14600.20027.263010.891753@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Smith writes: > > Question: are ISA ethernet cards supposed to work on FreeBSD/alpha (4.0R)? > > Some may. The various Lance drivers have always been pretty marginal; > your results don't surprise me much. > > We definitely have ISA issues on the Tsunami-based systems; trying to use > eg. the floppy drive in a DS20 will lock the machine solid. ISA > soundcards don't work either. It sounds like this is yet another DS20 bogon, as floppies work fine on my XP1000s under 4.0-RELEASE. Is this on the genuine DS20, or the UP2000? Damn. I'm not even sure how to go about debugging this.. I think the S/G DMA setup code is correct, and it seems like the ISA code must be at least partially correct if the thing is getting probed at all. Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 27 9:44:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from news.uni-kl.de (news.uni-kl.de [131.246.137.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 728C637B751 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 09:44:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from naddy@unix-ag.uni-kl.de) Received: from sushi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de ( root@sushi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de [131.246.89.13] ) by news.uni-kl.de id aa11076 for ; 27 Apr 2000 18:44 MESZ Received: from fettuccini.unix-ag.uni-kl.de (fettuccini.unix-ag.uni-kl.de [131.246.89.27]) by sushi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA14558 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:44:34 +0200 Received: (from naddy@localhost) by fettuccini.unix-ag.uni-kl.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA05210 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:44:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from naddy) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:44:39 +0200 From: Christian Weisgerber To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Soundcard for AXPpci33? Message-ID: <20000427184439.B4852@fettuccini.unix-ag.uni-kl.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Somebody has uttered the crazy thought of buying a soundcard for our AXPpci33 here. Any recommendations? Since this thing has only three PCI slots I'm leaning towards ISA... not sure if this is even more insane. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@unix-ag.uni-kl.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 27 10:14:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay01.chello.nl (smtp.chello.nl [212.83.68.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4853C37B980; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 10:14:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay01.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 199f3c0039bf924253955fca0afeedcc) with ESMTP id <20000427171438.CMDA13605.relay01@chello.nl>; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 19:14:38 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA00826; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 19:14:27 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 19:14:27 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Mike Smith , wc.bulte@chello.nl, FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: trying to get DE203 (ISA) to work on Alpha Message-ID: <20000427191427.B384@yedi.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl References: <20000426200247.C1581@yedi.wbnet> <200004270626.XAA00662@mass.cdrom.com> <14600.20027.263010.891753@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <14600.20027.263010.891753@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Thu, Apr 27, 2000 at 11:17:58AM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Apr 27, 2000 at 11:17:58AM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Mike Smith writes: > > > Question: are ISA ethernet cards supposed to work on FreeBSD/alpha (4.0R)? > > > > Some may. The various Lance drivers have always been pretty marginal; > > your results don't surprise me much. > > > > We definitely have ISA issues on the Tsunami-based systems; trying to use > > eg. the floppy drive in a DS20 will lock the machine solid. ISA > > soundcards don't work either. > > It sounds like this is yet another DS20 bogon, as floppies work fine > on my XP1000s under 4.0-RELEASE. Is this on the genuine DS20, or the > UP2000? > > Damn. I'm not even sure how to go about debugging this.. I think the > S/G DMA setup code is correct, and it seems like the ISA code must be > at least partially correct if the thing is getting probed at all. My original question was for an Aspen Alpine aka EB64+, any idea what ISA support does on these things? Floppy works fine on the Aspen BTW -- Wilko Bulte Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 27 13:13:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48AE137B764 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:13:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from nlsys.demon.co.uk ([158.152.125.33] helo=herring.nlsystems.com) by anchor-post-33.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12kuep-0009v1-0X; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 21:13:07 +0100 Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA63162; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 21:13:47 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 21:18:28 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Soundcard for AXPpci33? In-Reply-To: <20000427184439.B4852@fettuccini.unix-ag.uni-kl.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Somebody has uttered the crazy thought of buying a soundcard for > our AXPpci33 here. Any recommendations? > > Since this thing has only three PCI slots I'm leaning towards ISA... > not sure if this is even more insane. I have an AWE64 in one of my alphas which works very nicely. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 20 8442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 27 13:15:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD68537B639 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 13:15:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA15587; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 16:15:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA31921; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 16:15:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 16:15:42 -0400 (EDT) To: Doug Rabson Cc: Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Soundcard for AXPpci33? In-Reply-To: References: <20000427184439.B4852@fettuccini.unix-ag.uni-kl.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14600.40913.670238.625742@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug Rabson writes: > On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > > > Somebody has uttered the crazy thought of buying a soundcard for > > our AXPpci33 here. Any recommendations? > > > > Since this thing has only three PCI slots I'm leaning towards ISA... > > not sure if this is even more insane. > > I have an AWE64 in one of my alphas which works very nicely. Did it just work, or did you need to do some isacfg groveling? Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 27 14:47:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1ABF37BAA0 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 14:47:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: by border.alcanet.com.au id <115244>; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 07:47:29 +1000 Content-return: prohibited From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: Silly question on FreeBSD V4.0 Dist In-reply-to: <20000426105352.A34742@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, Apr 27, 2000 at 06:09:34AM +1000 To: User Raymond Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Message-Id: <00Apr28.074729est.115244@border.alcanet.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii References: <200004260331.NAA21450@gw.one.com.au> <00Apr26.134634est.115226@border.alcanet.com.au> <20000426193433.I1021@yedi.wbnet> <20000426105352.A34742@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 07:45:08 +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2000-Apr-27 06:09:34 +1000, David O'Brien wrote: >On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 07:34:34PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: >> >> > - Do a sysinstall from the 3.2 CD-ROM (which had a bootable Alpha >> > distribution on disk2), extract 4.0 sources and make world. >> >> Are you sure 3.2 was bootable on Alpha? I'm pretty sure O'Brien added >> support for bootable CDs on 4.0R. > >Correct. Sorry, my mistake. The 3.2-R disk 2 _contains_ Alpha boot floppy images, though it isn't bootable itself. In any case, it's a way of bootstrapping w/o a good network connection. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 27 15: 5: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay01.chello.nl (smtp.chello.nl [212.83.68.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6239337BC14; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 15:05:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay01.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 199f3c0039bf924253955fca0afeedcc) with ESMTP id <20000427220512.EQKG13605.relay01@chello.nl>; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:05:12 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA02586; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:05:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:05:00 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Mike Smith Cc: wc.bulte@chello.nl, FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: trying to get DE203 (ISA) to work on Alpha Message-ID: <20000428000500.A2563@yedi.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl References: <20000426200247.C1581@yedi.wbnet> <200004270626.XAA00662@mass.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200004270626.XAA00662@mass.cdrom.com>; from msmith@freebsd.org on Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 11:26:10PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Apr 26, 2000 at 11:26:10PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > Question: are ISA ethernet cards supposed to work on FreeBSD/alpha (4.0R)? > > Some may. The various Lance drivers have always been pretty marginal; > your results don't surprise me much. Duh.. Any experiences with the ed driver? Should have a NE2k floating around here somewhere.. -- Wilko Bulte Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 27 15: 8:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay02.chello.nl (relay02.chello.nl [212.83.68.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4166937BFC2 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 15:08:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay02.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 199f3c0039bf924253955fca0afeedcc) with ESMTP id <20000427220830.EVYN1988.relay02@chello.nl>; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:08:30 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA02629; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:08:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:08:33 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Doug Rabson , Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Soundcard for AXPpci33? Message-ID: <20000428000833.A2611@yedi.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl References: <20000427184439.B4852@fettuccini.unix-ag.uni-kl.de> <14600.40913.670238.625742@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <14600.40913.670238.625742@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Thu, Apr 27, 2000 at 04:15:42PM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Apr 27, 2000 at 04:15:42PM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Doug Rabson writes: > > On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > > > > > Somebody has uttered the crazy thought of buying a soundcard for > > > our AXPpci33 here. Any recommendations? > > > > > > Since this thing has only three PCI slots I'm leaning towards ISA... > > > not sure if this is even more insane. > > > > I have an AWE64 in one of my alphas which works very nicely. > > Did it just work, or did you need to do some isacfg groveling? In what sense does isacfg impact FreeBSD? I know T64 uses the isacfg handles to fill-in driver tables. -- Wilko Bulte Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 27 15:32:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from shrimp.baynetworks.com (ns4.BayNetworks.COM [192.32.253.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83AB237BB5A for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 15:32:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bwithrow@BayNetworks.COM) Received: from mailhost.BayNetworks.COM (h8754.s84f5.BayNetworks.COM [132.245.135.84]) by shrimp.baynetworks.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA05520 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:26:51 -0400 (EDT) Received: from pobox.engeast.BayNetworks.COM (pobox.engeast.baynetworks.com [192.32.61.6]) by mailhost.BayNetworks.COM (8.9.1/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA14524 for ; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:36:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from baynetworks.com (kyzyl [192.32.150.103]) by pobox.engeast.BayNetworks.COM (SMI-8.6/BNET-97/04/24-S) with ESMTP id SAA20783; Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:31:51 -0400 for Message-Id: <200004272231.SAA20783@pobox.engeast.BayNetworks.COM> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: alpha@freebsd.org Cc: bwithrow@engeast.BayNetworks.COM Subject: Building powerpc-freebsd compilers on ix86-freebsd Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2000 18:28:57 -0400 From: Robert Withrow Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm looking for guidance on generating cross compilers for a powerpc-freebsd target on a ix86-freebsd host. I'm assuming that the alpha freebsd port developers had to do a similar thing. I've scanned through the gcc-2.95.2 core distribution and I don't see anything in it for freebsd on alphas, so I'm at a loss to understand what works for the alpha. (Did the necessary changes not make it back into the gcc codestream?) I see openbsd and some netbsd stuff for alpha (and powerpc) but it isn't clear what is important for freebsd and what isn't. Any help would be appreciated. Please mail to me directly. Thanks! -- Robert Withrow -- (+1 978 288 8256) BWithrow@BayNetworks.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 28 0:24:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECA2137BBC9 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:24:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from nlsys.demon.co.uk ([158.152.125.33] helo=herring.nlsystems.com) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12l58R-000Obh-0U; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:24:24 +0100 Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA19931; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:25:00 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:29:34 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Soundcard for AXPpci33? In-Reply-To: <14600.40913.670238.625742@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Doug Rabson writes: > > On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > > > > > Somebody has uttered the crazy thought of buying a soundcard for > > > our AXPpci33 here. Any recommendations? > > > > > > Since this thing has only three PCI slots I'm leaning towards ISA... > > > not sure if this is even more insane. > > > > I have an AWE64 in one of my alphas which works very nicely. > > Did it just work, or did you need to do some isacfg groveling? No, it just worked. The PnP probe picks it up and programs it to a suitable addresss. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 20 8442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 28 0:33:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD64437BBB7 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 00:33:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from nlsys.demon.co.uk ([158.152.125.33] helo=herring.nlsystems.com) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12l5HU-0005p0-0C; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 07:33:44 +0000 Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA23848; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:34:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 08:39:02 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: wc.bulte@chello.nl Cc: Andrew Gallatin , Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Soundcard for AXPpci33? In-Reply-To: <20000428000833.A2611@yedi.wbnet> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Thu, Apr 27, 2000 at 04:15:42PM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > Doug Rabson writes: > > > On Thu, 27 Apr 2000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > > > > > > > Somebody has uttered the crazy thought of buying a soundcard for > > > > our AXPpci33 here. Any recommendations? > > > > > > > > Since this thing has only three PCI slots I'm leaning towards ISA... > > > > not sure if this is even more insane. > > > > > > I have an AWE64 in one of my alphas which works very nicely. > > > > Did it just work, or did you need to do some isacfg groveling? > > In what sense does isacfg impact FreeBSD? I know T64 uses the isacfg handles > to fill-in driver tables. I have some code which I have been trying to finish for a while now which does the same thing. In a sense isacfg performs the same role as PNPBIOS does for x86. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 20 8442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 28 9:21:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from master.telia.net (master.telia.net [194.237.170.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF72A37B8E2 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 09:21:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khaled@w-arts.com) Received: from localhost (elite@localhost) by master.telia.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA09195; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 18:21:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from khaled@w-arts.com) X-Authentication-Warning: master.telia.net: elite owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 18:21:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Khaled Daham X-Sender: elite@master.telia.net To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: switching from arc to srm In-Reply-To: <8e7jlh$2rqq$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 164BX /Khaled Daham, w.arts Mail: khaled@w-arts.com Cell: +46-70-6785492 Cell: +966-54491462 On 26 Apr 2000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > And to add to that: there are some machines that *only* have ARC available, > > there is no SRM in existence for them. Machines like XL266 etc come to mind. > > And I still think we should list the known ones in alpha/HARDWARE.TXT. > - XL266 > - PC164UX > > If there are more, I'd like to know. > > -- > Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 28 9:26:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay01.chello.nl (smtp.chello.nl [212.83.68.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A1237B962 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 09:26:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay01.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 199f3c0039bf924253955fca0afeedcc) with ESMTP id <20000428162655.BOFM16343.relay01@chello.nl>; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 18:26:55 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA06650; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 18:26:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 18:26:42 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Khaled Daham Cc: Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: switching from arc to srm Message-ID: <20000428182642.A6636@yedi.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl References: <8e7jlh$2rqq$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from khaled@w-arts.com on Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 06:21:38PM +0200 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 06:21:38PM +0200, Khaled Daham wrote: Which vendor is the 164BX? > 164BX > > /Khaled Daham, w.arts > > Mail: khaled@w-arts.com > Cell: +46-70-6785492 > Cell: +966-54491462 > > On 26 Apr 2000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > > > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > > And to add to that: there are some machines that *only* have ARC available, > > > there is no SRM in existence for them. Machines like XL266 etc come to mind. > > > > And I still think we should list the known ones in alpha/HARDWARE.TXT. > > - XL266 > > - PC164UX These went into HARDWARE.TXT yesterday evening. > > If there are more, I'd like to know. So do I.. -- Wilko Bulte Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 28 10:55:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from caffeine.gerp.org (caffeine.gerp.org [216.80.26.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9935537B614 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 10:55:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kdulzo@caffeine.gerp.org) Received: (qmail 14329 invoked by uid 100); 28 Apr 2000 17:45:56 -0000 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 12:45:55 -0500 From: "Kevin M. Dulzo" To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: PC164 Troubles Message-ID: <20000428124555.A30435@caffeine.gerp.org> Reply-To: kdulzo@gerp.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have searched and read everything I can find on this subject, but still cannot seem to find any diagnostic documentation for an alpha PC164 board. I picked it up on ebay from Sysmerica, 500Mhz. 4 32M 72pin Parity SIMMs (one 60ns, 3 70ns). Tried about 6 different video cards and cannot get a screen. Does anyone have any suggestions? I put the 50hz oscillator in (I think backwards for a moment, is that bad?) I removed all the frequency jumpers (multiplier of 15) 128bit Memory jumper is on (4 SIMMs) Power supply powers up, standard ATX case/ps from Global (I hope I did not botch my solder job to fix the power switch). Sometimes I get garble out of the serial ports like: ..xxx..x.DSD Thanks ahead, -Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 28 11:35:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay02.chello.nl (relay02.chello.nl [212.83.68.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF40B37B565 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 11:35:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay02.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 199f3c0039bf924253955fca0afeedcc) with ESMTP id <20000428183524.BUGW8821.relay02@chello.nl>; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 20:35:24 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA07316; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 20:35:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 20:35:20 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: kdulzo@gerp.org Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PC164 Troubles Message-ID: <20000428203520.A7274@yedi.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl References: <20000428124555.A30435@caffeine.gerp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000428124555.A30435@caffeine.gerp.org>; from kdulzo@caffeine.gerp.org on Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 12:45:55PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 12:45:55PM -0500, Kevin M. Dulzo wrote: > I have searched and read everything I can find on this subject, > but still cannot seem to find any diagnostic documentation for an > alpha PC164 board. I picked it up on ebay from Sysmerica, 500Mhz. > 4 32M 72pin Parity SIMMs (one 60ns, 3 70ns). Tried about 6 different > video cards and cannot get a screen. Does anyone have any suggestions? > > I put the 50hz oscillator in (I think backwards for a moment, is that bad?) MHz ? Ouch. Could very well be. IIRC the 'diagonal pins' of an xtal oscillator carry the ground and +5V (or supply voltage as appropriate). Reversing it therefore can sure kill it. > I removed all the frequency jumpers (multiplier of 15) > 128bit Memory jumper is on (4 SIMMs) > Power supply powers up, standard ATX case/ps from Global (I hope I did not > botch my solder job to fix the power switch). > > Sometimes I get garble out of the serial ports like: > ..xxx..x.DSD > > Thanks ahead, > -Kevin -- Wilko Bulte Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 28 12: 1:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8DF737BFC6 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 12:01:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ticso@cicely5.cicely.de) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA17759; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 20:56:41 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [10.1.5.7]) by mail.cicely.de (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id VAA35398; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 21:00:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA86373; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 21:01:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 21:01:36 +0200 From: Bernd Walter To: kdulzo@gerp.org Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PC164 Troubles Message-ID: <20000428210136.B86206@cicely5.cicely.de> References: <20000428124555.A30435@caffeine.gerp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000428124555.A30435@caffeine.gerp.org>; from kdulzo@caffeine.gerp.org on Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 12:45:55PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 12:45:55PM -0500, Kevin M. Dulzo wrote: > I have searched and read everything I can find on this subject, > but still cannot seem to find any diagnostic documentation for an > alpha PC164 board. I picked it up on ebay from Sysmerica, 500Mhz. > 4 32M 72pin Parity SIMMs (one 60ns, 3 70ns). Tried about 6 different > video cards and cannot get a screen. Does anyone have any suggestions? The RAM is with parity and all are the same? > I put the 50hz oscillator in (I think backwards for a moment, is that bad?) > I removed all the frequency jumpers (multiplier of 15) > 128bit Memory jumper is on (4 SIMMs) > Power supply powers up, standard ATX case/ps from Global (I hope I did not > botch my solder job to fix the power switch). I did the same for my PC164 as there is no powerlogic... > Sometimes I get garble out of the serial ports like: > ..xxx..x.DSD Default is 9600-8n1 - maybe it's configured differently in your case. You should try common values like 19200 and 38400. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 28 12:21: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay01.chello.nl (smtp.chello.nl [212.83.68.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577E037BEE3 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 12:21:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay01.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 199f3c0039bf924253955fca0afeedcc) with ESMTP id <20000428192118.CMWE16343.relay01@chello.nl>; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 21:21:18 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA07565; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 21:21:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 21:21:04 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: wc.bulte@chello.nl Cc: Khaled Daham , Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: switching from arc to srm Message-ID: <20000428212104.A7486@yedi.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl References: <8e7jlh$2rqq$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> <20000428182642.A6636@yedi.wbnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000428182642.A6636@yedi.wbnet>; from wkb@chello.nl on Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 06:26:42PM +0200 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 06:26:42PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 06:21:38PM +0200, Khaled Daham wrote: > > Which vendor is the 164BX? OK, found it: Samsung. Just added it to HARDWARE.TXT > > > 164BX > > > > /Khaled Daham, w.arts -- Wilko Bulte Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 28 12:31:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AF7737B8FD for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 12:31:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from naddy@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id VAA08944; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 21:31:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from naddy@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: (from naddy@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA83780; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 21:17:57 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from naddy) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 21:17:57 +0200 From: Christian Weisgerber To: Khaled Daham Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: switching from arc to srm Message-ID: <20000428211757.F56426@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> References: <8e7jlh$2rqq$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from khaled@w-arts.com on Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 06:21:38PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Khaled Daham: > > And I still think we should list the known ones in alpha/HARDWARE.TXT. > > - XL266 > > - PC164UX > > If there are more, I'd like to know. > > 164BX AFAIK, the Samsung 164BX is a clone of the Digital 164LX and can use the latter's SRM. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 28 14:48:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C2237B94B for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 14:48:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id XAA15274 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 23:48:22 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA87521 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 22:59:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: ADSM with OSF/1 emulation? Date: 28 Apr 2000 22:59:30 +0200 Message-ID: <8ecu3i$2lej$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> References: <20000427123354.E56426@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Has anybody tried to run the ADSM client for Digital UNIX on > FreeBSD/alpha? I have now tried this, and Andrew Gallatin kindly helped with some issues, but unfortunately it turns out that the ADSM client for Digital UNIX uses some Mach system calls and thus isn't handled by our compatibility module. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 28 14:48:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (news-ma.rhein-neckar.de [193.197.90.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C627037BF9D for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 14:48:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@localhost) by news-ma.rhein-neckar.de (8.8.8/8.8.8) with bsmtp id XAA15276 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 23:48:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daemon@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA88596 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 23:39:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: SRM questions (mildly off-topic) Date: 28 Apr 2000 23:39:37 +0200 Message-ID: <8ed0ep$2mg6$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> References: <8e575m$1ia9$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> <14598.60635.267789.180557@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Reply-To: naddy@unix-ag.uni-kl.de To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Today, I experimentally put in a KNE100TX (DEC 21140A). > > What does it tell you if you do > >>> set ewb0_mode fastfd This appears to work. I didn't know there was a "fastfd" option. > Did you try ifconfig de1 media 100baseTX mediaopt full-duplex ? Yes, forcing it after FreeBSD had come up did work fine from the beginning. > BTW, if you're looking for a "high performance" network card for a > low-end alpha, stay away from tulips. Just what I needed to hear. :-( As part of our computing zoo, we have two dual ppro boxes, one running Linux, the other one FreeBSD, plus this AXPpci33, and two KNE100TX cards currently installed in the intel boxes. I intended to move the KNE100TX from the Linux box to the alpha, since the Linux tulip driver is a mess (on our machine it won't do full-duplex), and put something that's both sensible and sensibly supported, say an EtherExpress, into the intel box. Scratch that idea. > 3coms should work fairly well... You mean a 3C905? -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 28 15:10: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.primenet.com (smtp02.primenet.com [206.165.6.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CD5637B593 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 15:09:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr08.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp02.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA16220; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 15:05:53 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr08.primenet.com(206.165.6.208) via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpdAAAqeaywF; Fri Apr 28 15:05:31 2000 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr08.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id PAA03486; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 15:05:35 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <200004282205.PAA03486@usr08.primenet.com> Subject: Re: Building powerpc-freebsd compilers on ix86-freebsd To: bwithrow@nortelnetworks.com (Robert Withrow) Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 22:05:35 +0000 (GMT) Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, bwithrow@engeast.BayNetworks.COM In-Reply-To: <200004272231.SAA20783@pobox.engeast.BayNetworks.COM> from "Robert Withrow" at Apr 27, 2000 06:28:57 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm looking for guidance on generating cross compilers for > a powerpc-freebsd target on a ix86-freebsd host. I'm assuming that > the alpha freebsd port developers had to do a similar thing. > > I've scanned through the gcc-2.95.2 core distribution and I > don't see anything in it for freebsd on alphas, so I'm at a > loss to understand what works for the alpha. (Did the necessary > changes not make it back into the gcc codestream?) > > I see openbsd and some netbsd stuff for alpha (and powerpc) but > it isn't clear what is important for freebsd and what isn't. > > Any help would be appreciated. Please mail to me directly. In my personal experience, I used GCC on AIX on PPC to do the work. My suggestion would be to host the port starting on NetBSD for PPC, now that it exists, and work toward a replacement kernel first, from there. That is what I believe the FreeBSD Alpha people did. This gives you the same tool chain ad roughly the same environment that you are targetting. Is this an iMac based port? I worked on a Motorolla PowerSTAC based port (PPCBug instead of Open Firmware), which I had booting single user, before I moved from Tucson and had to send the loaner hardware back to Motorolla... if you can finde a PowerSTAC, I might be able to mount it up and get you the (~3 year old) code, if you think it would help. Pretty much, though, I'd bet you would be better off with a modern NetBSD that boots multiuser instead of an antique FreeBSD that boots single user. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 28 15:10:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 203CD37BA50 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 15:10:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA21052; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 15:10:20 -0700 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 15:10:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ADSM with OSF/1 emulation? In-Reply-To: <8ecu3i$2lej$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You *could* switch from ADSM to NetWorker if you've a NetWorker server elsewhere in your network... On 28 Apr 2000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Christian Weisgerber wrote: > > > Has anybody tried to run the ADSM client for Digital UNIX on > > FreeBSD/alpha? > > I have now tried this, and Andrew Gallatin kindly helped with some > issues, but unfortunately it turns out that the ADSM client for > Digital UNIX uses some Mach system calls and thus isn't handled by > our compatibility module. > > -- > Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 28 15:13:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay02.chello.nl (relay02.chello.nl [212.83.68.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99EFA37B723 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 15:13:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay02.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 199f3c0039bf924253955fca0afeedcc) with ESMTP id <20000428221345.DGNR8821.relay02@chello.nl>; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 00:13:45 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id AAA01423; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 00:13:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 00:13:49 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: naddy@unix-ag.uni-kl.de Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SRM questions (mildly off-topic) Message-ID: <20000429001349.B1388@yedi.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl References: <8e575m$1ia9$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> <14598.60635.267789.180557@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <8ed0ep$2mg6$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <8ed0ep$2mg6$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de>; from naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de on Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 11:39:37PM +0200 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 11:39:37PM +0200, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > Today, I experimentally put in a KNE100TX (DEC 21140A). > > > > What does it tell you if you do > > >>> set ewb0_mode fastfd > > This appears to work. I didn't know there was a "fastfd" option. I think you can do >>> set ewb0_mode ? and it will tell you what the options are. > > 3coms should work fairly well... > > You mean a 3C905? I think I had a 905 in one of my Alphas and that worked well. It now has a DE500 because I wanted to play with netbooting. Which the SRM won't do from a 3COM obviously. -- Wilko Bulte Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 28 16:23:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net [199.45.39.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B60437BA33 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 16:23:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shsrms@bellatlantic.net) Received: from bellatlantic.net (adsl-138-88-38-164.bellatlantic.net [138.88.38.164]) by smtp-out1.bellatlantic.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA26973; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 19:23:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <390A1D98.3BBA314C@bellatlantic.net> Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 19:24:08 -0400 From: HerbalGypsy/justbobthebard Reply-To: shsrms@bellatlantic.net Organization: The Keltic League X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-CCK-MCD BA45DSL (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kdulzo@gerp.org Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PC164 Troubles References: <20000428124555.A30435@caffeine.gerp.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok, if you are getting something out the line with the xtal/osc in, you might be ok. What kind of ram - real parity is needed, 36bit. Speed diff might be a problem on the ram, not sure, sometimes the alphas are a little touchy. I put in all 60ns ram in mine - bought from sysmerica too! You could drop back to a lower freq osc, and try that. There are a few PDF files on the pc164 that have some good info. Have you picked those up? I put a generic video card in mine, and brought it up that way. with an IDE drive at that!! good luck bob "Kevin M. Dulzo" wrote: > > I have searched and read everything I can find on this subject, > but still cannot seem to find any diagnostic documentation for an > alpha PC164 board. I picked it up on ebay from Sysmerica, 500Mhz. > 4 32M 72pin Parity SIMMs (one 60ns, 3 70ns). Tried about 6 different > video cards and cannot get a screen. Does anyone have any suggestions? > > I put the 50hz oscillator in (I think backwards for a moment, is that bad?) > I removed all the frequency jumpers (multiplier of 15) > 128bit Memory jumper is on (4 SIMMs) > Power supply powers up, standard ATX case/ps from Global (I hope I did not > botch my solder job to fix the power switch). > > Sometimes I get garble out of the serial ports like: > ..xxx..x.DSD > > Thanks ahead, > -Kevin > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 28 20:44:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from caffeine.gerp.org (caffeine.gerp.org [216.80.26.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6123C37B522 for ; Fri, 28 Apr 2000 20:44:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kdulzo@caffeine.gerp.org) Received: (qmail 28786 invoked by uid 100); 29 Apr 2000 03:34:40 -0000 Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2000 22:34:03 -0500 From: "Kevin M. Dulzo" To: HerbalGypsy/justbobthebard Subject: Re: PC164 Troubles Message-ID: <20000428223403.A21113@caffeine.gerp.org> References: <20000428124555.A30435@caffeine.gerp.org> <390A1D98.3BBA314C@bellatlantic.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <390A1D98.3BBA314C@bellatlantic.net>; from shsrms@bellatlantic.net on Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 07:24:08PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Apr 28, 2000 at 07:24:08PM -0400, HerbalGypsy/justbobthebard wrote: > Ok, if you are getting something out the line with the xtal/osc in, > you might be ok. > What kind of ram - real parity is needed, 36bit. Its mixed branding, 2 are IBM labeled and numered, all "claim" to be 36bit. > Speed diff might be a problem on the ram, not sure, sometimes the > alphas are a little touchy. I put in all 60ns ram in mine - bought > from sysmerica too! > You could drop back to a lower freq osc, and try that. Aye, or my friend has one of these as well, I can "borrow" his osc. > There are a few PDF files on the pc164 that have some good > info. Have you picked those up? Oh yes, read them all about 8 times. Anyone know how to use that SROM serial data port to diagnose problems? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 29 3:25:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from master.telia.net (master.telia.net [194.237.170.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B16737B5A4 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 03:25:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khaled@w-arts.com) Received: from localhost (elite@localhost) by master.telia.net (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA17021; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 12:25:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from khaled@w-arts.com) X-Authentication-Warning: master.telia.net: elite owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 12:25:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Khaled Daham X-Sender: elite@master.telia.net To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: switching from arc to srm In-Reply-To: <20000428211757.F56426@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Not really, 164BX has the same bios as the UX ( afaik you cannot flash srm from that bios ). and I do think that the UX and BX has the same mb , the BX is just a UX without the scsi & nic, cheaper. /Khaled Daham, w.arts Mail: khaled@w-arts.com Cell: +46-70-6785492 Cell: +966-54491462 On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > Khaled Daham: > > > > And I still think we should list the known ones in alpha/HARDWARE.TXT. > > > - XL266 > > > - PC164UX > > > If there are more, I'd like to know. > > > > 164BX > > AFAIK, the Samsung 164BX is a clone of the Digital 164LX and can > use the latter's SRM. > > -- > Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 29 4:56: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.clarkson.edu (mail.clarkson.edu [128.153.4.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E47DE37B5B5 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 04:55:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cohentl@clarkson.edu) Received: (qmail 1616 invoked by uid 0); 29 Apr 2000 11:55:51 -0000 Received: from vador.aoc.clarkson.edu (128.153.130.33) by mail.clarkson.edu with SMTP; 29 Apr 2000 11:55:51 -0000 Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 07:54:08 -0400 (EDT) From: Todd Cohen X-Sender: cohentl@vador.aoc.clarkson.edu To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: error message Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This shows up on console now and then.. any ideas? FreeBSD 4.0 stable Apr 28 18:31:03 lizard /kernel: arp: unknown hardware address format (0800) --------------------------------------------------- http://www.clarkson.edu/~cohentl "Sometimes crazy things happen in circuits." - Muku, 1999 "The answers to lifes problems aren't at the bottom of bottles, they're on TV" - Homer J. Simpson --------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 29 8: 1: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from tibor.org (cable-117-5-237-24.anchorageak.net [24.237.5.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94A5137BE7F for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 08:01:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tibor@tibor.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tibor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B65E23805; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 07:00:51 -0800 (AKDT) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 07:00:50 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mike Tibor To: kdulzo@gerp.org Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PC164 Troubles In-Reply-To: <20000428124555.A30435@caffeine.gerp.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 28 Apr 2000, Kevin M. Dulzo wrote: > I have searched and read everything I can find on this subject, > but still cannot seem to find any diagnostic documentation for an > alpha PC164 board. I picked it up on ebay from Sysmerica, 500Mhz. > 4 32M 72pin Parity SIMMs (one 60ns, 3 70ns). Tried about 6 different > video cards and cannot get a screen. Does anyone have any suggestions? I have the very same board from the same source. The memory should be fine--the fact that one simm differs in that it can handle 60ns where the others are rated for 70ns wouldn't matter in the least. The main thing is whether they're true 36 bit parity simms. I think if they weren't you'd hear a series of beeps, which you don't mention. > I put the 50hz oscillator in (I think backwards for a moment, is that bad?) Nope, in fact it's required if you want to run the cpu at 500MHz. The cpu speed is directly tied to the oscillator frequency (the jumpers on the motherboard don't affect the cpu frequency). > I removed all the frequency jumpers (multiplier of 15) > 128bit Memory jumper is on (4 SIMMs) > Power supply powers up, standard ATX case/ps from Global (I hope I did not > botch my solder job to fix the power switch). > > Sometimes I get garble out of the serial ports like: > ..xxx..x.DSD Sounds like it's trying to spit something out. Can't help you there though--I've never used the serial console. Do you see anything at all on the monitor? When I first powered on mine, all I got was a blue screen but nothing else. I hit the return key a couple of times and the SRM prompt popped up. I then typed "set console graphics" to fix it. Mike -- Mike Tibor Univ. of Alaska Anchorage (907) 786-1001 voice Network Technician Consortium Library (907) 786-6050 fax tibor@lib.uaa.alaska.edu http://www.lib.uaa.alaska.edu/~tibor/ http://www.lib.uaa.alaska.edu/~tibor/pgpkey for PGP public key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 29 11:22: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E32D37B838 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 11:21:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sprice@hiwaay.net) Received: from localhost (sprice@localhost) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e3TILp400701; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 13:21:52 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 13:21:51 -0500 (CDT) From: Steve Price To: Doug Rabson Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: need help porting JDK2 to alpha In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 24 Apr 2000, Doug Rabson wrote: # You can initialise the pc by setting sc->sc_pc. What are death_func and # arg used for? If these are intended to be arguments to some function # located at *pc, you can initialise sc->sc_regs[R_A0..R-A5] with up to six # argument values. If you need the function at *pc to return to some # specific location, set sc->sc_regs[R_RA] to a suitable return address. Oops, I was re-reading your response and just noticed there was a question in there. The idea is to setup the sigjmp_buf structure so that on a call to siglongjmp the function death_func is called with the arguments pc and arg. The code I have now looks like this and appears to almost work. uc->jmpbuf->_sjb[2] = death_func; /* sc_pc */ uc->jmpbuf->_sjb[20] = pc; /* sc_regs[R_A0] */ uc->jmpbuf->_sjb[21] = arg; /* sc_regs[R_A1] */ uc->jmpbuf->_sjb[34] = sp; /* sc_regs[R_SP] */ uc->jmpbuf->_sjb[35] = 0xACEDBADD; /* magic number for longjmp */ I don't think we need to set sc_regs[R_RA]. -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 29 15: 9:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from lh2.rdc1.tx.home.com (ha2.rdc1.tx.home.com [24.4.0.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B77BA37B8F1 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 15:09:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from miklic@ibm.net) Received: from ibm.net ([24.10.140.87]) by lh2.rdc1.tx.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with ESMTP id <20000429220925.ILVA17350.lh2.rdc1.tx.home.com@ibm.net> for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 15:09:25 -0700 Message-ID: <390B6C60.CC37A26E@ibm.net> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 23:12:32 +0000 From: "Andrew M. Miklic" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE alpha) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD-CURRENT for Alpha? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone, I am a machdep kernel developer at HP, and I was hoping to play around a little with the current Alpha code and hopefully contribute to it, but although I can find a 5.0-CURRENT for i386 (no active 4.x-CURRENT for i386 that I can find), I am unable to find either an active 4.x-CURRENT or an active 5.0-CURRENT branch for Alpha--is there an active -CURRENT tree for Alpha? If so, could someone tell we what it is and where I can find it? Also, is there going to be a 4.1 release, or are we just jumping straight to 5.0? Finally, if I want to contribute to the Alpha port, how do I go about doing it (e.g., what sorts of things do people want/need done; if I make changes/improvements to something, whom do I give them; etc.)... Andrew Miklic To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 29 15:43:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E41E237B546 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 15:43:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA24638; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 18:43:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA44270; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 18:43:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 18:43:54 -0400 (EDT) To: "Andrew M. Miklic" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD-CURRENT for Alpha? In-Reply-To: <390B6C60.CC37A26E@ibm.net> References: <390B6C60.CC37A26E@ibm.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14603.24019.125566.500784@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew M. Miklic writes: > Anyone, > > I am a machdep kernel developer at HP, and I was hoping to play around a > little with the current Alpha code and hopefully contribute to it, but Cool! > although I can find a 5.0-CURRENT for i386 (no active 4.x-CURRENT for > i386 that I can find), I am unable to find either an active 4.x-CURRENT > or an active 5.0-CURRENT branch for Alpha--is there an active -CURRENT > tree for Alpha? If so, could someone tell we what it is and where I can > find it? I assure you that the code is all there ;-) I assume you're talking about snapshots? I'd suggest installing 4.0-RELEASE and building your way to the most recent -CURRENT or -STABLE. > Also, is there going to be a 4.1 release, or are we just jumping > straight to 5.0? The 4.x (or RELENG_4) branch has the -STABLE tag now. -CURRENT is the 5.x branch. There will be a 4.1 release in a few months time which will consist of enhancements and bug fixes merged from 5.0-CURRENT. There will be 5.0 snapshots (but not releases) at irregular intervals, before and and after 4.1-RELEASE. Much later (perhaps after more releases in the 4.x series) there will be a 5.0-RELEASE. These questions can mostly be answered by reading the FreeBSD handbook. Start at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/cutting-edge.html > Finally, if I want to contribute to the Alpha port, how do I go about > doing it (e.g., what sorts of things do people want/need done; if I make > changes/improvements to something, whom do I give them; etc.)... > > Andrew Miklic Well, what sort of thing are you interested in? There's plenty to be done. Here are some fairly challenging tasks off the top of my head that I don't think anybody is actively pursuing: - booting machines with the only AlphaBios (PC164UX, the XL series, UP1000, etc) - debugging Xfree86 (causes machine checks with some combination of servers, cards & alphas) - enhancing the osf/1 compat code to run threaded binaries. This could be nearly impossible if you're not familiar with mach calls, but if you're a kernel developer at HP.. Some more mundane tasks include: - creating an alpha LINT kernel config file - making src/tools/tools/kerninclude work on alpha - making my ipobe driver into a proper FreeBSD port - fixing device drivers to work on the alpha (eg, usb) I'm sure there's more to do than I can think of right now. As to how to contribute the code, the preferable mechansim is to use send-pr to submit a problem report with a patch. Send-pr is the only mechanism where you can be certain your work won't get lost. Other options include contacting developers directly (eg, the maintainer of the code you're fixing, look in the CVS logs to figure this out) or mailing to this mailing list. Cheers, Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 29 16:52: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from caffeine.gerp.org (caffeine.gerp.org [216.80.26.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1021037B931 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 16:52:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kdulzo@caffeine.gerp.org) Received: (qmail 18893 invoked by uid 100); 29 Apr 2000 23:42:27 -0000 Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 18:42:26 -0500 From: "Kevin M. Dulzo" To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PC164 Troubles Message-ID: <20000429184226.A14897@caffeine.gerp.org> References: <20000428124555.A30435@caffeine.gerp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from tibor@tibor.org on Sat, Apr 29, 2000 at 07:00:50AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wohoo! Figured it out. The DSD appears before the alpha loads firmware. I blew the oscillator by installing it the wrong way, I "borrowed" one and it works like a charm SRM'd myself and will be on my way. I hope the folks listed in the back of the DEC technical manual still exist to buy the oscillator from... -Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 29 19:35: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from radicalmedia.com (eel.radicalmedia.com [204.254.246.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA1BD37B668 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 19:35:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phiber@radicalmedia.com) Received: (from phiber@localhost) by radicalmedia.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id WAA04704 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 22:34:59 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20000429223459.R18160@radicalmedia.com> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 22:34:59 -0400 From: Mark Abene To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: ioctl problem with IDE cdrom drive... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is anyone aware of problems with doing ioctls on IDE CDROM drives? I'm trying to use xmcd/cda to play CD's, and it fails when trying to do a CDIOCREADSUBCHANNEL ioctl, returning errno 25 (inappropriate ioctl for device). My cdrom drive works fine otherwise in all respects. I've e-mailed the author of xmcd, and we're at a loss as to why this common ioctl is failing. He's using the call to detect whether a disc has been inserted. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks, -Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 29 22:46:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FF4137B6AE for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 22:46:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id XAA62910; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 23:46:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ken) Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2000 23:46:18 -0600 From: "Kenneth D. Merry" To: Mark Abene Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ioctl problem with IDE cdrom drive... Message-ID: <20000429234618.A62831@panzer.kdm.org> References: <20000429223459.R18160@radicalmedia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000429223459.R18160@radicalmedia.com>; from phiber@radicalmedia.com on Sat, Apr 29, 2000 at 10:34:59PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Apr 29, 2000 at 22:34:59 -0400, Mark Abene wrote: > Is anyone aware of problems with doing ioctls on IDE CDROM drives? > I'm trying to use xmcd/cda to play CD's, and it fails when trying to do > a CDIOCREADSUBCHANNEL ioctl, returning errno 25 (inappropriate ioctl for > device). My cdrom drive works fine otherwise in all respects. > I've e-mailed the author of xmcd, and we're at a loss as to why this common > ioctl is failing. He's using the call to detect whether a disc has been > inserted. > > Anyone have any suggestions? Well, make sure you're using the correct device. I think it should be /dev/acd0a or /dev/acd0c. If you're still having trouble after that, I would suggest contacting the ATA driver author, Soren Schmidt . Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 29 22:55: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from radicalmedia.com (eel.radicalmedia.com [204.254.246.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8036C37B6C9 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2000 22:54:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phiber@radicalmedia.com) Received: (from phiber@localhost) by radicalmedia.com (8.8.6/8.8.6) id BAA05264; Sun, 30 Apr 2000 01:54:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20000430015457.S18160@radicalmedia.com> Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 01:54:57 -0400 From: Mark Abene To: "Kenneth D. Merry" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ioctl problem with IDE cdrom drive... References: <20000429223459.R18160@radicalmedia.com> <20000429234618.A62831@panzer.kdm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: <20000429234618.A62831@panzer.kdm.org>; from Kenneth D. Merry on Sat, Apr 29, 2000 at 11:46:18PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Apr 29, 2000 at 11:46:18PM -0600, Kenneth D. Merry wrote: > On Sat, Apr 29, 2000 at 22:34:59 -0400, Mark Abene wrote: > > Is anyone aware of problems with doing ioctls on IDE CDROM drives? > > I'm trying to use xmcd/cda to play CD's, and it fails when trying to do > > a CDIOCREADSUBCHANNEL ioctl, returning errno 25 (inappropriate ioctl for > > device). My cdrom drive works fine otherwise in all respects. > > I've e-mailed the author of xmcd, and we're at a loss as to why this common > > ioctl is failing. He's using the call to detect whether a disc has been > > inserted. > > > > Anyone have any suggestions? > > Well, make sure you're using the correct device. I think it should be > /dev/acd0a or /dev/acd0c. Most assuredly, I'm using the correct device node. > > If you're still having trouble after that, I would suggest contacting the > ATA driver author, Soren Schmidt . > > Ken Before I do that, can anyone else verify that xmcd (or cda) from the ports collection doesn't work with an IDE CDROM drive? I've done some poking, and wmcdplay works fine. It too makes use of CDIOCREADSUBCHANNEL, so it may not be a driver issue. -Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message