From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 7 3:40:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from front1.grolier.fr (front1.grolier.fr [194.158.96.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB16E37B6A4 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 03:40:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from groudier@club-internet.fr) Received: from ppp-109-82.villette.club-internet.fr (ppp-109-82.villette.club-internet.fr [194.158.109.82]) by front1.grolier.fr (8.9.3/No_Relay+No_Spam_MGC990224) with ESMTP id MAA25388; Sun, 7 May 2000 12:40:44 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 12:15:48 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard_Roudier?= X-Sender: groudier@linux.local To: Matthew Jacob Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AlphaServer 4100 Support being integrated In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 6 May 2000, Matthew Jacob wrote: [...] > sym0: <810> port 0x1fffc00-0x1fffcff mem 0x7fdde00-0x7fddeff irq 4 at dev= ice 1.0 on pci0 > sym0: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-10, SE, parity checking > sym0: open drain IRQ line driver > sym0: using NCR-generic firmware. > sym0: initial SCNTL3/DMODE/DCNTL/CTEST3/4/5 =3D (hex) 00/00/00/00/00/00 > sym0: final SCNTL3/DMODE/DCNTL/CTEST3/4/5 =3D (hex) 03/c8/00/00/08/00 > sym0: Delay (GEN=3D11): 403 msec, 22055 KHz > sym0: Delay (GEN=3D11): 426 msec, 20864 KHz > sym0: Delay (GEN=3D11): 426 msec, 20864 KHz [...] Based on the boot messages, estimation of PCI clock frequency by the driver is about 20 MHz. Is it correct ? If it is not, then DELAY() may well be very inaccurate on this Alpha machine. (The code used to measure the PCI clock frequency had been written by Stefan Esser for both Linux and FreeBSD ncr drivers. This code was initially only used to measure the SCSI clock frequency of 875 chips (given the SCSI clock frequency value, presence of clock doubler can be guessed). Btw, this code has proven to be as accurate as DELAY() allows). G=E9rard. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 7 4:23:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay01.chello.nl (smtp.chello.nl [212.83.68.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B940137B5AD for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 04:23:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay01.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 199f3c0039bf924253955fca0afeedcc) with ESMTP id <20000507112321.HMXJ16343.relay01@chello.nl>; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:23:21 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA20103; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:23:02 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 13:23:01 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard_Roudier?= Cc: Matthew Jacob , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AlphaServer 4100 Support being integrated Message-ID: <20000507132301.B19972@jedi.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from groudier@club-internet.fr on Sun, May 07, 2000 at 12:15:48PM +0200 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by chello.nl id NAA20103 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 07, 2000 at 12:15:48PM +0200, G=E9rard Roudier wrote: > On Sat, 6 May 2000, Matthew Jacob wrote: >=20 > [...] >=20 > > sym0: <810> port 0x1fffc00-0x1fffcff mem 0x7fdde00-0x7fddeff irq 4 at= device 1.0 on pci0 > > sym0: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-10, SE, parity checking > > sym0: open drain IRQ line driver > > sym0: using NCR-generic firmware. > > sym0: initial SCNTL3/DMODE/DCNTL/CTEST3/4/5 =3D (hex) 00/00/00/00/00/= 00 > > sym0: final SCNTL3/DMODE/DCNTL/CTEST3/4/5 =3D (hex) 03/c8/00/00/08/= 00 > > sym0: Delay (GEN=3D11): 403 msec, 22055 KHz > > sym0: Delay (GEN=3D11): 426 msec, 20864 KHz > > sym0: Delay (GEN=3D11): 426 msec, 20864 KHz >=20 > [...] >=20 > Based on the boot messages, estimation of PCI clock frequency by the > driver is about 20 MHz. Is it correct ? I doubt it. AFAIK the Rawhide/4100 uses a normal 33Mc PCI bus clock. --=20 Wilko Bulte Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 7 5:40:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 932F637B7C4 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 05:40:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daemon@mips.inka.de) Received: from bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 12oQMU-0000nR-00; Sun, 7 May 2000 14:40:42 +0200 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by bigeye.rhein-neckar.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA02158 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:38:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Workaround for xdm Date: 7 May 2000 13:38:39 +0200 Message-ID: <8f3kjv$236$1@bigeye.rhein-neckar.de> To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As I mentioned recently, xdm (from XFree86 3.3.6 as shipped with FreeBSD 4.0R) dumps core when dealing with requests from "X -query" or "X -indirect". The problem goes away if you rebuild xdm without XDM-AUTHORIZATION-1, e.g. by setting #define HasXdmAuth 0 in the xdm Imakefile. I haven't been able to pinpoint the actual bug, though. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 7 10:33:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02FFE37B8B0 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 10:33:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@c01-162.006.popsite.net [216.126.134.162]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA17307; Sun, 7 May 2000 10:33:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA36484; Sun, 7 May 2000 10:33:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 10:33:51 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Brett Bump Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 3300/3305 and 5300/5305 Problems Message-ID: <20000507103351.B35845@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org References: <39148C07.E97DCEAF@mail.enetis.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <39148C07.E97DCEAF@mail.enetis.net>; from bbump@mail.enetis.net on Sat, May 06, 2000 at 03:17:59PM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, May 06, 2000 at 03:17:59PM -0600, Brett Bump wrote: > into memory and then the cpu halts. The console looks like this: > > Entering kernel at 0xfffffc00003245e0... > > halted CPU 0 > > halt code = 2 > kernel stack not valid halt > PC = fffffc00004ac70c > >>> How recent is this? I am now getting this on three Alphas that used to have zero problems boot a kernel. Mike Smith and I suspect something has gone ary in the loader. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 7 11:10:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4B6A37B75B for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 11:10:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21822; Sun, 7 May 2000 11:09:09 -0700 Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 11:10:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard_Roudier?= Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AlphaServer 4100 Support being integrated In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hmm. It's a normal PCI bus. If DELAY is wrong on alpha's, this may explain some of the funnies I've seen elsewhere. Thanks for spotting this. On Sun, 7 May 2000, [ISO-8859-1] G=E9rard Roudier wrote: >=20 >=20 > On Sat, 6 May 2000, Matthew Jacob wrote: >=20 > [...] >=20 > > sym0: <810> port 0x1fffc00-0x1fffcff mem 0x7fdde00-0x7fddeff irq 4 at d= evice 1.0 on pci0 > > sym0: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-10, SE, parity checking > > sym0: open drain IRQ line driver > > sym0: using NCR-generic firmware. > > sym0: initial SCNTL3/DMODE/DCNTL/CTEST3/4/5 =3D (hex) 00/00/00/00/00/00 > > sym0: final SCNTL3/DMODE/DCNTL/CTEST3/4/5 =3D (hex) 03/c8/00/00/08/00 > > sym0: Delay (GEN=3D11): 403 msec, 22055 KHz > > sym0: Delay (GEN=3D11): 426 msec, 20864 KHz > > sym0: Delay (GEN=3D11): 426 msec, 20864 KHz >=20 > [...] >=20 > Based on the boot messages, estimation of PCI clock frequency by the > driver is about 20 MHz. Is it correct ? > If it is not, then DELAY() may well be very inaccurate on this Alpha > machine. >=20 > (The code used to measure the PCI clock frequency had been written by > Stefan Esser for both Linux and FreeBSD ncr drivers. This code was > initially only used to measure the SCSI clock frequency of 875 chips > (given the SCSI clock frequency value, presence of clock doubler can be > guessed). Btw, this code has proven to be as accurate as DELAY() allows). >=20 > G=E9rard. >=20 >=20 >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 7 12:24:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.enetis.net (mail.enetis.net [206.31.204.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B22B37BAC2 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 12:24:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bbump@mail.enetis.net) Received: from mail.enetis.net (rc-pm3-3-01.enetis.net [206.31.207.112]) by mail.enetis.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA14798 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:24:28 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3915C2CD.33A793DA@mail.enetis.net> Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 13:23:57 -0600 From: Brett Bump X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 3300/3305 and 5300/5305 Problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David, I've always gotten this with all the snap releases (and the 4.0-RELEASE) since about "October snap" when I first tried it. When Andrew mentioned the "grabbing something current", I grabbed the 12/25/99 stuff and it had done the same thing. It's been the same thing with each snap distribution since then. I even built a distribution on one of my AS200s and then put the disk in one of the 3300s thinking maybe it was a problem with the diskettes. I haven't even tried booting it with the ISO image...hold on... Ok, exactly same message (just a different address). The Mar 20, 2000 ISO (4.0-RELEASE) stops after loading the kernel with this message: Entering kernel at 0xfffffc0000325c20... halted CPU 0 halt code = 2 kernel stack not valid halt PC = fffffc00004da8c4c boot failure >>> This is on a 3300 with 256meg of memory running SRM V5.5-78. David O'Brien wrote: > On Sat, May 06, 2000 at 03:17:59PM -0600, Brett Bump wrote: > > into memory and then the cpu halts. The console looks like this: > > > > Entering kernel at 0xfffffc00003245e0... > > > > halted CPU 0 > > > > halt code = 2 > > kernel stack not valid halt > > PC = fffffc00004ac70c > > >>> > > How recent is this? I am now getting this on three Alphas that used to > have zero problems boot a kernel. Mike Smith and I suspect something has > gone ary in the loader. > > -- > -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 7 12:39:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from front4m.grolier.fr (front4m.grolier.fr [195.36.216.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A072D37B656 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 12:39:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from groudier@club-internet.fr) Received: from ppp-173-135.villette.club-internet.fr (ppp-173-135.villette.club-internet.fr [195.36.173.135]) by front4m.grolier.fr (8.9.3/No_Relay+No_Spam_MGC990224) with ESMTP id VAA22043; Sun, 7 May 2000 21:37:32 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 21:14:19 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard_Roudier?= X-Sender: groudier@linux.local To: Matthew Jacob Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AlphaServer 4100 Support being integrated In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 7 May 2000, Matthew Jacob wrote: > Hmm. It's a normal PCI bus. If DELAY is wrong on alpha's, this may explai= n > some of the funnies I've seen elsewhere. Thanks for spotting this. I looked into the source and it seems obviously wrong to me. It is based on a loop that is hardcoded as lasting 3 cycles. This is probably correct for some CPU types but certainly not for all. For the CPU of the 4100 and given the actual memory alignment of the loop code, it could well be that the loop cost is actually 2 cycles instead of the hardcoded 3 cycles (just a guessing based on the below biased value displayed by `sym'). The `sym' driver may estimate the SCSI clock for chips that should use a 80 MHz clock or use a 40 Mhz clock and may have a clock multiplier. Given the bias due to DELAY() error the driver will estimated SCSI clock frequency as follows: If actually 40 Mhz, result will be 26,6 Mhz. Driver will assume 40Hz --> NO HARM. If actually 80 Mhz, result will be 53,3 Mhz. Driver will assule 50Hz --> BAD SPOT. A 860 or a 875 may not properly work in that situation... But if the booting software properly set SCNTL3 and clock multiplier=20 if any, the driver may just trust IO registers values for its guessing= =20 of the SCSI clock frequency --> NO HARM. G=E9rard. > On Sun, 7 May 2000, [ISO-8859-1] G=E9rard Roudier wrote: >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > On Sat, 6 May 2000, Matthew Jacob wrote: > >=20 > > [...] > >=20 > > > sym0: <810> port 0x1fffc00-0x1fffcff mem 0x7fdde00-0x7fddeff irq 4 at= device 1.0 on pci0 > > > sym0: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-10, SE, parity checking > > > sym0: open drain IRQ line driver > > > sym0: using NCR-generic firmware. > > > sym0: initial SCNTL3/DMODE/DCNTL/CTEST3/4/5 =3D (hex) 00/00/00/00/00/= 00 > > > sym0: final SCNTL3/DMODE/DCNTL/CTEST3/4/5 =3D (hex) 03/c8/00/00/08/= 00 > > > sym0: Delay (GEN=3D11): 403 msec, 22055 KHz > > > sym0: Delay (GEN=3D11): 426 msec, 20864 KHz > > > sym0: Delay (GEN=3D11): 426 msec, 20864 KHz > >=20 > > [...] > >=20 > > Based on the boot messages, estimation of PCI clock frequency by the > > driver is about 20 MHz. Is it correct ? > > If it is not, then DELAY() may well be very inaccurate on this Alpha > > machine. > >=20 > > (The code used to measure the PCI clock frequency had been written by > > Stefan Esser for both Linux and FreeBSD ncr drivers. This code was > > initially only used to measure the SCSI clock frequency of 875 chips > > (given the SCSI clock frequency value, presence of clock doubler can be > > guessed). Btw, this code has proven to be as accurate as DELAY() allows= ). > >=20 > > G=E9rard. > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 7 12:46:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AA6737BA5B for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 12:46:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from semuta.feral.com (semuta [192.67.166.70]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA22152; Sun, 7 May 2000 12:45:03 -0700 Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 12:45:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard_Roudier?= Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AlphaServer 4100 Support being integrated In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > On Sun, 7 May 2000, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > Hmm. It's a normal PCI bus. If DELAY is wrong on alpha's, this may explain > > some of the funnies I've seen elsewhere. Thanks for spotting this. > > I looked into the source and it seems obviously wrong to me. It is based > on a loop that is hardcoded as lasting 3 cycles. This is probably correct > for some CPU types but certainly not for all. For the CPU of the 4100 and > given the actual memory alignment of the loop code, it could well be that > the loop cost is actually 2 cycles instead of the hardcoded 3 cycles (just > a guessing based on the below biased value displayed by `sym'). Yeah, I've been looking at it. I'm playing around with an assembler replacement as we speak. > The `sym' driver may estimate the SCSI clock for chips that should use a > 80 MHz clock or use a 40 Mhz clock and may have a clock multiplier. Given > the bias due to DELAY() error the driver will estimated SCSI clock > frequency as follows: > > If actually 40 Mhz, result will be 26,6 Mhz. > Driver will assume 40Hz --> NO HARM. > > If actually 80 Mhz, result will be 53,3 Mhz. > Driver will assule 50Hz --> BAD SPOT. > A 860 or a 875 may not properly work in that situation... > But if the booting software properly set SCNTL3 and clock multiplier > if any, the driver may just trust IO registers values for its guessing > of the SCSI clock frequency --> NO HARM. All good points. You have to have a good clock, there's no question about it. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 7 13:31:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1266937BBA8 for ; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:31:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from semuta.feral.com (semuta [192.67.166.70]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA22302; Sun, 7 May 2000 13:30:39 -0700 Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 13:31:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard_Roudier?= Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AlphaServer 4100 Support being integrated In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This looks better, doesn't it? ... pci0: on pcib0 sym0: <810> port 0x1fffc00-0x1fffcff mem 0x7fdde00-0x7fddeff irq 4 at device 1.0 on pci0 sym0: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-10, SE, parity checking sym0: open drain IRQ line driver sym0: using NCR-generic firmware. sym0: initial SCNTL3/DMODE/DCNTL/CTEST3/4/5 = (hex) 00/00/00/00/00/00 sym0: final SCNTL3/DMODE/DCNTL/CTEST3/4/5 = (hex) 03/c8/00/00/08/00 sym0: Delay (GEN=11): 268 msec, 33165 KHz sym0: Delay (GEN=11): 283 msec, 31407 KHz sym0: Delay (GEN=11): 284 msec, 31296 KHz sym0: interrupting at IRQ 0x10 INTA (vec 0xb40) ... I'm using the RPCC cycle counter register- much more accurate. It tells you how many processor cycles have passed, multiplied by a factor of 1..16, since you last read it. Can then by scaled against the cycles_per_usec field you can derive from PROM information. Again- thanks a *lot* for noticing this. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 8 6:42:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63FA037B7CD for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 06:42:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26209; Mon, 8 May 2000 09:42:06 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA75953; Mon, 8 May 2000 09:42:06 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 09:42:06 -0400 (EDT) To: Brett Bump Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3300/3305 and 5300/5305 Problems In-Reply-To: <39148C07.E97DCEAF@mail.enetis.net> References: <39148C07.E97DCEAF@mail.enetis.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14614.49806.293997.4055@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brett Bump writes: > Hi Peter, > > I presume he's running into the same problem I did. I posted a similar message > the last week of December 99. Andrew mentioned that I might not be running > the newest code that included AS1000 support (added Dec 1st, 99). But I've > never been able to boot any code after that date either. The kernel gets loaded > into memory and then the cpu halts. The console looks like this: > > Entering kernel at 0xfffffc00003245e0... > > halted CPU 0 > > halt code = 2 > kernel stack not valid halt > PC = fffffc00004ac70c > >>> > Brett, Can you build a debugging kernel (eg, config -g) and map that PC to a source code line? Also, can you print out the return address from the SRM console & map that to a symbol? Eg: halt code = 5 HALT instruction executed PC = fffffc00004e7988 >>>e ra gpr: 1A ( R26) FFFFFC00003861D0 >>> You can map things to symbols by running gdb on sys/compile/BLAH/kernel.debug & looking at the address with a *0x prepended. From a normal shutown, you will see this: # gdb kernel.debug GNU gdb 4.18 Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "alpha-unknown-freebsd"... (gdb) l *0xFFFFFC00004E7988 0xfffffc00004e7988 is in alpha_srm_shutdown (../../alpha/alpha/machdep.c:255). 250 */ 251 static void 252 alpha_srm_shutdown(void *junk, int howto) 253 { 254 if (howto & RB_HALT) 255 alpha_pal_halt(); 256 } 257 258 static void 259 cpu_startup(dummy) (gdb) l *0xFFFFFC00003861D0 0xfffffc00003861d0 is in boot (../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:310). 305 #endif 306 dumpsys(); 307 } 308 309 /* Now that we're going to really halt the system... */ 310 EVENTHANDLER_INVOKE(shutdown_final, howto); 311 312 for(;;) ; /* safety against shutdown_reset not working */ 313 /* NOTREACHED */ 314 } This information could be very helpful. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 8 13:19:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net (ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net [198.36.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8DE4237BC15 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 13:19:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bwoods2@uswest.net) Received: (qmail 12077 invoked by alias); 8 May 2000 20:19:05 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-alpha@freebsd.org@fixme Received: (qmail 12067 invoked by uid 0); 8 May 2000 20:19:04 -0000 Received: from alpha.uswest.net (63.227.213.92) by ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 8 May 2000 20:19:04 -0000 Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 13:20:23 -0700 (PDT) From: William Woods Reply-To: bwoods2@uswest.net To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Make World on a DEC Alpha dies..... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Running 4.0-stable on a DEC Alpha I get the following with todays cvsup: ----------------------------------------------- mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/blank/.. -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/blank/.. -I. -I@ -I@/../include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/blank/blank_saver.c ===> sys/modules/syscons/daemon @ -> /usr/src/sys machine -> /usr/src/sys/alpha/include rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/daemon/.. -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/daemon/.. -I. -I@ -I@/../include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/daemon/daemon_saver.c ===> sys/modules/syscons/fade @ -> /usr/src/sys machine -> /usr/src/sys/alpha/include rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fade/.. -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fade/.. -I. -I@ -I@/../include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fade/fade_saver.c ===> sys/modules/syscons/fire @ -> /usr/src/sys machine -> /usr/src/sys/alpha/include rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -nostdinc -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fire/.. -D_KERNEL -DKLD_MODULE -I- -I/usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fire/.. -I. -I@ -I@/../include -I/usr/obj/usr/src/alpha/usr/include /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fire/fire_saver.c /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fire/fire_saver.c:44: machine/random.h: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fire. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/sys/modules. *** Error code 1 --------------------------------- anyone have any ideas, suggestions? ------------------------------------------------------------------ NOTICE TO BULK E-MAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, and all unsolicited commercial e-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 8 18:59:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from gw.one.com.au (gw.one.com.au [203.18.85.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F266537BD6C for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 18:59:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from raymond@one.com.au) Received: from one.com.au (pmo.local [10.18.85.2]) by gw.one.com.au (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id LAA00747 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 May 2000 11:58:56 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from raymond@one.com.au) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 11:58:56 +1000 (EST) From: User Raymond Message-Id: <200005090158.LAA00747@gw.one.com.au> Subject: Attempting to install 4.0-RELEASE Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org I am trying to install 4.0-RELEASE on an AlphaStation 200 4/166 with no joy so far - could someone please offer pointers. I have tried booting from both CD and floppy - the following is some of the information that appears, please advise if any other info would help. Ray Newman AlphaStation 200 4/166, 166MHz CPU: EV4 (21064) major=2 minor=0 OSF PAL rev: 0x100000002012e (probe0:ncr0:0:0:n): MSG_MESSAGE_REJECT received (35:8). for n = 1 to 7 a similar message occurs twice. Finds, sa0, da0, cd0 and da1 (which is correct) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c Comes up with the "Probing devices" screen then: panic: Going nowhere without my init! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 8 22:13:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D313537BDF2 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 22:13:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from semuta.feral.com (semuta [192.67.166.70]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA27916 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 22:12:01 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 22:12:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: borked Alpha boot loader? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org setting affinity to the primary CPU jumping to bootstrap code Loading /boot/loader Console: SRM firmware console panic: zfree(0x2003cb58,4096): wild pointer halted CPU 0 halt code = 5 HALT instruction executed This has happened to two systems I did a buildworld on over the last 48 hours. Pretty annoying. Anyone with a clue here about this? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 8 22:20:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (adsl-63-202-176-114.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.176.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4721637B878 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 22:20:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA17429; Mon, 8 May 2000 22:29:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200005090529.WAA17429@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: borked Alpha boot loader? In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 08 May 2000 22:12:27 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 22:29:44 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > setting affinity to the primary CPU > jumping to bootstrap code > Loading /boot/loader > Console: SRM firmware console > panic: zfree(0x2003cb58,4096): wild pointer > > halted CPU 0 > > halt code = 5 > HALT instruction executed > > > This has happened to two systems I did a buildworld on over the last 48 > hours. Pretty annoying. Anyone with a clue here about this? This has hurt me too, which is why I fixed the loader install to save a backup copy. I don't know what's up here yet, but I'm going to try to find out fairly soon (have been somewhat buried in the 3ware driver, but I seem to have hit a brick wall there). -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 8 22:24:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C00C37BDA1; Mon, 8 May 2000 22:24:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from semuta.feral.com (semuta [192.67.166.70]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA27964; Mon, 8 May 2000 22:23:28 -0700 Date: Mon, 8 May 2000 22:23:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Mike Smith Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: borked Alpha boot loader? In-Reply-To: <200005090529.WAA17429@mass.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hmm. Yes. Well, the last good working copy was April 30th for me. On Mon, 8 May 2000, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > setting affinity to the primary CPU > > jumping to bootstrap code > > Loading /boot/loader > > Console: SRM firmware console > > panic: zfree(0x2003cb58,4096): wild pointer > > > > halted CPU 0 > > > > halt code = 5 > > HALT instruction executed > > > > > > This has happened to two systems I did a buildworld on over the last 48 > > hours. Pretty annoying. Anyone with a clue here about this? > > This has hurt me too, which is why I fixed the loader install to save a > backup copy. I don't know what's up here yet, but I'm going to try to > find out fairly soon (have been somewhat buried in the 3ware driver, but > I seem to have hit a brick wall there). > > -- > \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith > \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org > \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 8 22:53:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from eel.radicalmedia.com (eel.radicalmedia.com [204.254.246.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3DF437BDA8 for ; Mon, 8 May 2000 22:53:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from phiber@eel.radicalmedia.com) Received: (from phiber@localhost) by eel.radicalmedia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id BAA15293; Tue, 9 May 2000 01:53:31 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20000509015330.M9100@radicalmedia.com> Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 01:53:30 -0400 From: Mark Abene To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Cc: yoshiaki@kt.rim.or.jp Subject: machine/ieeefp.h question... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Why on the alpha do we have "typedef int fp_except" in machine/ieeefp.h, instead of "typedef int fp_except_t" like we have on intel? I had to hand edit the audio/lame port to get it to work properly on the alpha. -Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 9 5:55:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from burka.carrier.kiev.ua (burka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.193.193.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86AC37B662 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 05:55:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netch@lucky.net) Received: from netch@localhost by burka.carrier.kiev.ua id PVL87683 for freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; Tue, 9 May 2000 15:55:44 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 15:55:44 +0300 From: Valentin Nechayev To: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: buildworlds dying on -current / alpha Message-ID: <20000509155544.A83860@lucky.net> Reply-To: netch@lucky.net References: <20000504234613.A526@jedi.wbnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000504234613.A526@jedi.wbnet>; from wkb@chello.nl on Thu, May 04, 2000 at 11:46:13PM +0200 X-42: On Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thu, May 04, 2000 at 23:46:13, wkb wrote about "buildworlds dying on -current / alpha": We had the same problem after occasional switching to 5.0 from 4.0. Userland symptoms' view was quite similar to reported in my kern/10226 PR (which was variant of kern/8416) - root vnode locking. We had to separate buildworld process to successive phases. AlphaPC 164SX 533MHz, 128MB RAM, NCR 875. > I'm experiencing system lockups during a buildworld of -current on > my PWS600, 128Mb, Qlogic 1040 SCSI. > > Symptoms: build continues for hours (script foo; make buildworld creates > a 4-6Mbyte logfile) and then the build stops. The system is only responsive > in the sense that switching console screens works, the shell gives you > another prompt on hitting return. But e.g. starting 'ls' just echos the > command and then sits there. I can get to the kdebugger using ctl/alt/esc. > > Just built a kernel with -g and will retry the buildworld. In the meantime > comments are welcome. Is this only me or have more people seen it? -- NVA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 9 6: 0:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from burka.carrier.kiev.ua (burka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.193.193.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 448A237B743 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 06:00:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netch@lucky.net) Received: from netch@localhost by burka.carrier.kiev.ua id QAI88139 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Tue, 9 May 2000 16:00:51 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 16:00:51 +0300 From: Valentin Nechayev To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: multi-session dmesg Message-ID: <20000509160051.B83860@lucky.net> Reply-To: netch@lucky.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i X-42: On Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At our current system (4.0-20000502-STABLE), dmesg buffer is not cleared during system boot and contains previous data. This looks as following: === cut part of /var/run/dmesg === dc0: TX underrun -- increasing TX threshold dc0: TX underrun -- increasing TX threshold dc0: TX underrun -- increasing TX threshold Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...stopped Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop...stopped syncing disks... 31 30 27 20 9 done Uptime: 26m9s Rebooting... Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Tue May 2 23:54:37 EEST 2000 root@aleph.carrier.kiev.ua:/var/src/sys/compile/ALEPH EB164 Digital AlphaPC 164SX 533 MHz, 531MHz === end cut === Is it bug or feature? I strongly want it to be feature because this buffer may contain panic report and previous important messages in panic case. -- NVA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 9 9:13:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.kt.rim.or.jp (pppa01.kt.rim.or.jp [202.247.163.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 995BB37BE78 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 09:13:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yoshiaki@kt.rim.or.jp) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.kt.rim.or.jp (8.9.3/3.7W-ppp-981208) with ESMTP id BAA00528; Wed, 10 May 2000 01:12:43 +0900 (JST) To: phiber@radicalmedia.com Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org, yoshiaki@kt.rim.or.jp Subject: Re: machine/ieeefp.h question... In-Reply-To: <20000509015330.M9100@radicalmedia.com> References: <20000509015330.M9100@radicalmedia.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.95b3 on Emacs 20.6 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20000510011243H.yoshiaki@kt.rim.or.jp> Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 01:12:43 +0900 From: Yoshiaki Uchikawa X-Dispatcher: imput version 991025(IM133) Lines: 14 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> From: Mark Abene >>>>> Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 01:53:30 -0400 > Why on the alpha do we have "typedef int fp_except" in machine/ieeefp.h, > instead of "typedef int fp_except_t" like we have on intel? > I had to hand edit the audio/lame port to get it to work properly on the > alpha. > Sorry. I don't know why. I did not add alpha port. Please ask it with FreeBSD-ports ML or lame development ML. -- yoshiaki@kt.rim.or.jp Yoshiaki Uchikawa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 9 10: 0:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F98A37BE6B for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 10:00:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@c07-170.006.popsite.net [64.24.39.170]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA26861; Tue, 9 May 2000 09:59:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA46737; Tue, 9 May 2000 09:59:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 09:59:16 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Matthew Jacob Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: borked Alpha boot loader? Message-ID: <20000509095916.B28677@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Mon, May 08, 2000 at 10:12:27PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 10:12:27PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > setting affinity to the primary CPU > jumping to bootstrap code > Loading /boot/loader > Console: SRM firmware console > panic: zfree(0x2003cb58,4096): wild pointer > > halted CPU 0 > > halt code = 5 > HALT instruction executed I get the same. (well thought it was code 2) Mike Smith and I have talked about it and couldn't immediately think of which commit could have broken the loader. At the loader 10 sec count down, do: unload load kernel.old boot This works for me. Seems unloading and reloading a kernel "fixes" the problem. Sometimes I am even able to load "kernel" after the unload and have it boot. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 9 10: 1:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDA3837B6CC for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 10:01:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@c07-170.006.popsite.net [64.24.39.170]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA26880; Tue, 9 May 2000 10:01:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA46757; Tue, 9 May 2000 10:00:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:00:50 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: William Woods Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Make World on a DEC Alpha dies..... Message-ID: <20000509100050.C28677@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from bwoods2@uswest.net on Mon, May 08, 2000 at 01:20:23PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 01:20:23PM -0700, William Woods wrote: > Running 4.0-stable on a DEC Alpha I get the following with todays cvsup: ..snip.. > /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fire/fire_saver.c > /usr/src/sys/modules/syscons/fire/fire_saver.c:44: machine/random.h: No > such file or directory Blah. Ok, I'll do the MFC today. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 9 10: 6:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB7AB37BE6A; Tue, 9 May 2000 10:06:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from semuta.feral.com (semuta [192.67.166.70]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29865; Tue, 9 May 2000 10:04:52 -0700 Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:05:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "David O'Brien" Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: borked Alpha boot loader? In-Reply-To: <20000509095916.B28677@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hmm. Well, since I leave for three weeks on Thursday, I'll leave this problem for you && mike to sort out...:-) On Tue, 9 May 2000, David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 10:12:27PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > setting affinity to the primary CPU > > jumping to bootstrap code > > Loading /boot/loader > > Console: SRM firmware console > > panic: zfree(0x2003cb58,4096): wild pointer > > > > halted CPU 0 > > > > halt code = 5 > > HALT instruction executed > > I get the same. (well thought it was code 2) > Mike Smith and I have talked about it and couldn't immediately think of > which commit could have broken the loader. > > At the loader 10 sec count down, do: > > unload > load kernel.old > boot > > This works for me. Seems unloading and reloading a kernel "fixes" the > problem. Sometimes I am even able to load "kernel" after the unload and > have it boot. > > -- > -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 9 10:43:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 244C837C0DF for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 10:43:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@c07-170.006.popsite.net [64.24.39.170]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27096; Tue, 9 May 2000 10:43:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id KAA65056; Tue, 9 May 2000 10:43:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 10:43:33 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Mark Abene Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org, yoshiaki@kt.rim.or.jp Subject: Re: machine/ieeefp.h question... Message-ID: <20000509104333.A65037@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20000509015330.M9100@radicalmedia.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000509015330.M9100@radicalmedia.com>; from phiber@radicalmedia.com on Tue, May 09, 2000 at 01:53:30AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 01:53:30AM -0400, Mark Abene wrote: > Why on the alpha do we have "typedef int fp_except" in machine/ieeefp.h, > instead of "typedef int fp_except_t" like we have on intel? Fixed. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 9 11:53:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (adsl-63-202-176-114.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.176.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 065F937BEB0; Tue, 9 May 2000 11:53:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19927; Tue, 9 May 2000 11:53:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200005091853.LAA19927@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: obrien@freebsd.org Cc: Matthew Jacob , alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: borked Alpha boot loader? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 09 May 2000 09:59:16 PDT." <20000509095916.B28677@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 11:53:43 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 10:12:27PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > setting affinity to the primary CPU > > jumping to bootstrap code > > Loading /boot/loader > > Console: SRM firmware console > > panic: zfree(0x2003cb58,4096): wild pointer > > > > halted CPU 0 > > > > halt code = 5 > > HALT instruction executed > > I get the same. (well thought it was code 2) > Mike Smith and I have talked about it and couldn't immediately think of > which commit could have broken the loader. > > At the loader 10 sec count down, do: Er, when we talked about it, I thought I told you it happened as soon as the loader was loaded. There's no time to do anything, it just explodes. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 9 12: 5:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D022937BEA7; Tue, 9 May 2000 12:05:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@c07-170.006.popsite.net [64.24.39.170]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA27590; Tue, 9 May 2000 12:05:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA65848; Tue, 9 May 2000 12:05:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 12:05:46 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Mike Smith Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: borked Alpha boot loader? Message-ID: <20000509120546.A65823@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20000509095916.B28677@dragon.nuxi.com> <200005091853.LAA19927@mass.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200005091853.LAA19927@mass.cdrom.com>; from msmith@freebsd.org on Tue, May 09, 2000 at 11:53:43AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 11:53:43AM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > Er, when we talked about it, I thought I told you it happened as soon as > the loader was loaded. There's no time to do anything, it just explodes. Yes, you and I are seeing different things. But we both have our problems fixed when we use older loaders. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 9 13: 0:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from finch-post-12.mail.demon.net (finch-post-12.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC57F37C20A for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 12:46:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from nlsys.demon.co.uk ([158.152.125.33] helo=herring.nlsystems.com) by finch-post-12.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12pFxJ-0003F3-0C; Tue, 9 May 2000 19:46:10 +0000 Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id UAA48266; Tue, 9 May 2000 20:49:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 20:50:46 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Valentin Nechayev Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: multi-session dmesg In-Reply-To: <20000509160051.B83860@lucky.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 9 May 2000, Valentin Nechayev wrote: > At our current system (4.0-20000502-STABLE), dmesg buffer is not cleared > during system boot and contains previous data. This looks as following: > > === cut part of /var/run/dmesg === > dc0: TX underrun -- increasing TX threshold > dc0: TX underrun -- increasing TX threshold > dc0: TX underrun -- increasing TX threshold > Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...stopped > Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop...stopped > > syncing disks... 31 30 27 20 9 > done > Uptime: 26m9s > Rebooting... > Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. > Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. > FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Tue May 2 23:54:37 EEST 2000 > root@aleph.carrier.kiev.ua:/var/src/sys/compile/ALEPH > EB164 > Digital AlphaPC 164SX 533 MHz, 531MHz > === end cut === > > Is it bug or feature? > I strongly want it to be feature because this buffer may contain panic report > and previous important messages in panic case. This is a feature. The message buffer is always in the same place in memory and if its contents survive the reboot (there are magic numbers which are checked), then the kernel keeps the contents. Its extremely useful when hacking on kernels. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 20 8442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 9 13:13:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay02.chello.nl (relay02.chello.nl [212.83.68.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B4D237C09F for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 13:05:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay02.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license eb4b2a5620dc3934c7c631b507644fb6) with ESMTP id <20000509200524.GHHY3505.relay02@chello.nl>; Tue, 9 May 2000 22:05:25 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA01847; Tue, 9 May 2000 22:05:31 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 22:05:31 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Valentin Nechayev Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: buildworlds dying on -current / alpha Message-ID: <20000509220531.D1698@jedi.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl References: <20000504234613.A526@jedi.wbnet> <20000509155544.A83860@lucky.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000509155544.A83860@lucky.net>; from netch@lucky.net on Tue, May 09, 2000 at 03:55:44PM +0300 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 03:55:44PM +0300, Valentin Nechayev wrote: > Thu, May 04, 2000 at 23:46:13, wkb wrote about "buildworlds dying on -current / alpha": > > We had the same problem after occasional switching to 5.0 from 4.0. > Userland symptoms' view was quite similar to reported in my kern/10226 PR > (which was variant of kern/8416) - root vnode locking. > We had to separate buildworld process to successive phases. Can you please clarify what you mean by 'succesive phases' ? > AlphaPC 164SX 533MHz, 128MB RAM, NCR 875. > > > I'm experiencing system lockups during a buildworld of -current on > > my PWS600, 128Mb, Qlogic 1040 SCSI. > > > > Symptoms: build continues for hours (script foo; make buildworld creates > > a 4-6Mbyte logfile) and then the build stops. The system is only responsive > > in the sense that switching console screens works, the shell gives you > > another prompt on hitting return. But e.g. starting 'ls' just echos the > > command and then sits there. I can get to the kdebugger using ctl/alt/esc. -- Wilko Bulte Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 9 15:56:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4785A37B6A3 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 15:56:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (john [10.0.0.2]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA05444 for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 18:56:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200005092256.SAA05444@server.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 18:56:35 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: USB support for some Alphas Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, I've managed to get an XP900 to play with this week, and have added in support to the resource manager to handle the USB controller on Alphas with the cia and tsunami chipsets. According to Doug Rabson: The USB hardware on this platform interrupts via the ISA pic. SRM represents this as an interrupt pin of 0xe0 + isa irq no. Unfortunately I have not put in support in the alpha pci code to recognise this so the interrupt allocation fails. The place to add this support is probably pci_alloc_resource() in sys/alpha/pci/pcibus.c. Not having much to do between finals this week, I've managed to get this working in the patchset at http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/patches/alpha.usb.patch. I'd like to commit this relatively soon (day or two) to -current, so please test this out. Thanks. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 9 16:53:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F76B37BB1B; Tue, 9 May 2000 16:53:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA09610; Tue, 9 May 2000 17:53:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ken) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 17:53:43 -0600 From: "Kenneth D. Merry" To: Mike Smith Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, Matthew Jacob , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: borked Alpha boot loader? Message-ID: <20000509175343.A9592@panzer.kdm.org> References: <20000509095916.B28677@dragon.nuxi.com> <200005091853.LAA19927@mass.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200005091853.LAA19927@mass.cdrom.com>; from msmith@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, May 09, 2000 at 11:53:43AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 11:53:43 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > On Mon, May 08, 2000 at 10:12:27PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > setting affinity to the primary CPU > > > jumping to bootstrap code > > > Loading /boot/loader > > > Console: SRM firmware console > > > panic: zfree(0x2003cb58,4096): wild pointer > > > > > > halted CPU 0 > > > > > > halt code = 5 > > > HALT instruction executed > > > > I get the same. (well thought it was code 2) > > Mike Smith and I have talked about it and couldn't immediately think of > > which commit could have broken the loader. > > > > At the loader 10 sec count down, do: > > Er, when we talked about it, I thought I told you it happened as soon as > the loader was loaded. There's no time to do anything, it just explodes. I stupidly updated an Alpha box, and now I'm getting the same problem. Does anyone have any ideas for recovering it, other than trying to netboot it off another box? (I don't have any other Alpha boxes I could put the disk into, and DEC Unix on that machine doesn't seem to want to boot for some reason.) I actually saved the working loader as /boot/loader.works, but using the -file option to SRM's boot command doesn't seem to work. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 9 16:59:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (adsl-63-202-176-114.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.176.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D94DC37BEDF; Tue, 9 May 2000 16:59:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA21039; Tue, 9 May 2000 16:59:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200005092359.QAA21039@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Kenneth D. Merry" Cc: Mike Smith , obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, Matthew Jacob , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: borked Alpha boot loader? In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 09 May 2000 17:53:43 MDT." <20000509175343.A9592@panzer.kdm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 16:59:14 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Does anyone have any ideas for recovering it, other than trying to netboot > it off another box? (I don't have any other Alpha boxes I could put the > disk into, and DEC Unix on that machine doesn't seem to want to boot for > some reason.) > > I actually saved the working loader as /boot/loader.works, but using the > -file option to SRM's boot command doesn't seem to work. When the box boots, you get a couple of seconds pause after SRM has finished spewing at you and before the loader loads. Hit a key and you'll get the emergency boot: prompt. Type '/boot/loader.works' and you should be in business. I don't know why the -file argument isn't used; I suspect that there are probably space issues in the boot1 code. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 9 17:10: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C97137BEF9; Tue, 9 May 2000 17:09:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA09756; Tue, 9 May 2000 18:09:55 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ken) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 18:09:55 -0600 From: "Kenneth D. Merry" To: Mike Smith Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, Matthew Jacob , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: borked Alpha boot loader? Message-ID: <20000509180955.A9715@panzer.kdm.org> References: <20000509175343.A9592@panzer.kdm.org> <200005092359.QAA21039@mass.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200005092359.QAA21039@mass.cdrom.com>; from msmith@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, May 09, 2000 at 04:59:14PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 16:59:14 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > Does anyone have any ideas for recovering it, other than trying to netboot > > it off another box? (I don't have any other Alpha boxes I could put the > > disk into, and DEC Unix on that machine doesn't seem to want to boot for > > some reason.) > > > > I actually saved the working loader as /boot/loader.works, but using the > > -file option to SRM's boot command doesn't seem to work. > > When the box boots, you get a couple of seconds pause after SRM has > finished spewing at you and before the loader loads. Hit a key and > you'll get the emergency boot: prompt. Type '/boot/loader.works' and you > should be in business. Unfortunately that doesn't work. I can hit all sorts of keys, but they don't get me a boot prompt. > I don't know why the -file argument isn't used; I suspect that there are > probably space issues in the boot1 code. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 9 17:11:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (peter1.yahoo.com [208.48.107.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A68637BF04; Tue, 9 May 2000 17:11:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 907C61CE5; Tue, 9 May 2000 17:11:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Mike Smith Cc: "Kenneth D. Merry" , obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, Matthew Jacob , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: borked Alpha boot loader? In-Reply-To: Message from Mike Smith of "Tue, 09 May 2000 16:59:14 PDT." <200005092359.QAA21039@mass.cdrom.com> Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 17:11:14 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20000510001114.907C61CE5@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Smith wrote: > > Does anyone have any ideas for recovering it, other than trying to netboot > > it off another box? (I don't have any other Alpha boxes I could put the > > disk into, and DEC Unix on that machine doesn't seem to want to boot for > > some reason.) > > > > I actually saved the working loader as /boot/loader.works, but using the > > -file option to SRM's boot command doesn't seem to work. > > When the box boots, you get a couple of seconds pause after SRM has > finished spewing at you and before the loader loads. Hit a key and > you'll get the emergency boot: prompt. Type '/boot/loader.works' and you > should be in business. > > I don't know why the -file argument isn't used; I suspect that there are > probably space issues in the boot1 code. -file means which kernel file, not which loader... Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 9 17:25:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B283C37BA1C for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 17:25:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@c07-170.006.popsite.net [64.24.39.170]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA29774; Tue, 9 May 2000 17:25:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA87390; Tue, 9 May 2000 17:25:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 17:25:19 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Kenneth D. Merry" Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: borked Alpha boot loader? Message-ID: <20000509172519.A87367@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000509095916.B28677@dragon.nuxi.com> <200005091853.LAA19927@mass.cdrom.com> <20000509175343.A9592@panzer.kdm.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000509175343.A9592@panzer.kdm.org>; from ken@kdm.org on Tue, May 09, 2000 at 05:53:43PM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 05:53:43PM -0600, Kenneth D. Merry wrote: > > Does anyone have any ideas for recovering it, other than trying to netboot > it off another box? If you have the 4-CDROM AXP set, you can boot the 2nd disc, do the "fix-it" thing, and copy the loader from there to /boot. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 9 17:29:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B4CF37BE66; Tue, 9 May 2000 17:29:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA09992; Tue, 9 May 2000 18:29:09 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ken) Date: Tue, 9 May 2000 18:29:09 -0600 From: "Kenneth D. Merry" To: "David O'Brien" Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: borked Alpha boot loader? Message-ID: <20000509182909.A9959@panzer.kdm.org> References: <20000509095916.B28677@dragon.nuxi.com> <200005091853.LAA19927@mass.cdrom.com> <20000509175343.A9592@panzer.kdm.org> <20000509172519.A87367@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20000509172519.A87367@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, May 09, 2000 at 05:25:19PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 17:25:19 -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 05:53:43PM -0600, Kenneth D. Merry wrote: > > > > Does anyone have any ideas for recovering it, other than trying to netboot > > it off another box? > > If you have the 4-CDROM AXP set, you can boot the 2nd disc, do the > "fix-it" thing, and copy the loader from there to /boot. Unfortunately, I don't have the 4.0 CDs, so I'll probably end up netbooting it... Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 9 18: 7:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (peter1.yahoo.com [208.48.107.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBA0037B66B; Tue, 9 May 2000 18:07:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB4B01CE5; Tue, 9 May 2000 18:07:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Kenneth D. Merry" Cc: Mike Smith , obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, Matthew Jacob , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: borked Alpha boot loader? In-Reply-To: Message from "Kenneth D. Merry" of "Tue, 09 May 2000 18:09:55 MDT." <20000509180955.A9715@panzer.kdm.org> Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 18:07:27 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20000510010727.CB4B01CE5@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Kenneth D. Merry" wrote: > On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 16:59:14 -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > > Does anyone have any ideas for recovering it, other than trying to netboo t > > > it off another box? (I don't have any other Alpha boxes I could put the > > > disk into, and DEC Unix on that machine doesn't seem to want to boot for > > > some reason.) > > > > > > I actually saved the working loader as /boot/loader.works, but using the > > > -file option to SRM's boot command doesn't seem to work. > > > > When the box boots, you get a couple of seconds pause after SRM has > > finished spewing at you and before the loader loads. Hit a key and > > you'll get the emergency boot: prompt. Type '/boot/loader.works' and you > > should be in business. > > Unfortunately that doesn't work. I can hit all sorts of keys, but they > don't get me a boot prompt. I had that problem a while ago. My original install had a broken set of bootblocks that didn't accept they keyboard break as expected. I had never got around to refreshing them with a disklabel -B da0. I ended up getting out of it by: - creating an alpha boot floppy using the SRM "bootable" checksum tweaks on an i386. You could once do this by manually activating the #ifdef __alpha code to calculate the checksum. - I got the old loader and bootblocks etc from beast.freebsd.org I think. - I do not remember from there, I'm pretty sure I was able to boot from floppy ("boot eva0" ?), then change the root device to the disk and load the kernel from there. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 9 19:39:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.enetis.net (mail.enetis.net [206.31.204.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78EFB37B55C for ; Tue, 9 May 2000 19:39:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bbump@mail.enetis.net) Received: from mail.enetis.net (rc-pm3-3-13.enetis.net [206.31.207.124]) by mail.enetis.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA29457; Tue, 9 May 2000 20:39:09 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <3918CBC5.C9495F35@mail.enetis.net> Date: Tue, 09 May 2000 20:39:01 -0600 From: Brett Bump X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Gallatin , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3300/3305 and 5300/5305 Problems References: <39148C07.E97DCEAF@mail.enetis.net> <14614.49806.293997.4055@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Brett, > > Can you build a debugging kernel (eg, config -g) and map that PC to a > source code line? Also, can you print out the return address from the > SRM console & map that to a symbol? Eg: Ok Andrew, here is what we come up with: halt code = 2 kernel stack not valid halt PC = fffffc000049704c boot failure >>>e ra gpr: 1A( R26) FFFFFC000048F9A8 >>> Gdb tells me: (gdb) l *0xfffffc000049704c 0xfffffc000049704c is in vm_map_lookup (../../vm/vm_map.c:2470). 2465 vm_map_entry_t *out_entry, /* OUT */ 2466 vm_object_t *object, /* OUT */ 2467 vm_pindex_t *pindex, /* OUT */ 2468 vm_prot_t *out_prot, /* OUT */ 2469 boolean_t *wired) /* OUT */ 2470 { 2471 vm_map_entry_t entry; 2472 vm_map_t map = *var_map; 2473 vm_prot_t prot; 2474 vm_prot_t fault_type = fault_typea; (gdb) l *0xfffffc000048f9a8 0xfffffc000048f9a8 is in vm_fault (../../vm/vm_fault.c:206). 201 /* 202 * Find the backing store object and offset into it to begin the 203 * search. 204 */ 205 fs.map = map; 206 if ((result = vm_map_lookup(&fs.map, vaddr, 207 fault_type, &fs.entry, &fs.first_object, 208 &fs.first_pindex, &prot, &wired)) != KERN_SUCCESS) { 209 if ((result != KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE) || 210 ((fault_flags & VM_FAULT_WIRE_MASK) != VM_FAULT_ USER_WIRE)) { (gdb) Hope this helps. Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 10 1:24:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E34437B584; Wed, 10 May 2000 01:24:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from nlsys.demon.co.uk ([158.152.125.33] helo=herring.nlsystems.com) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12pRms-0007cy-0U; Wed, 10 May 2000 09:24:10 +0100 Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA30351; Wed, 10 May 2000 09:27:20 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 09:28:41 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: Mike Smith Cc: "Kenneth D. Merry" , obrien@freebsd.org, Matthew Jacob , alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: borked Alpha boot loader? In-Reply-To: <200005092359.QAA21039@mass.cdrom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 9 May 2000, Mike Smith wrote: > > Does anyone have any ideas for recovering it, other than trying to netboot > > it off another box? (I don't have any other Alpha boxes I could put the > > disk into, and DEC Unix on that machine doesn't seem to want to boot for > > some reason.) > > > > I actually saved the working loader as /boot/loader.works, but using the > > -file option to SRM's boot command doesn't seem to work. > > When the box boots, you get a couple of seconds pause after SRM has > finished spewing at you and before the loader loads. Hit a key and > you'll get the emergency boot: prompt. Type '/boot/loader.works' and you > should be in business. > > I don't know why the -file argument isn't used; I suspect that there are > probably space issues in the boot1 code. The -file argument is used by /boot/loader to select which kernel to load. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 20 8442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 10 4:29:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.research.kpn.com (hermes.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C61AA37B58D for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 04:29:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from K.J.Koster@kpn.com) Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by research.kpn.com (PMDF V5.2-31 #42699) with ESMTP id <01JP8J1PRENE00014Y@research.kpn.com> for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 May 2000 13:29:36 +0200 Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 10 May 2000 13:29:35 +0100 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 13:29:34 +0100 From: "Koster, K.J." Subject: sio, nrc and sym questions for NoName To: 'FreeBSD Alpha mailing list' Message-id: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D74C9@l04.research.kpn.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Alpha, First off: my NoName board works! FreeBSD installed flawlessly. The sysinstall background is red, but it is my understanding that that's a feature. It won't have a monitor anyway, so don't rush out to fix this for me. :-) Good work, everyone! It seems that the onboard NCR 810 is not recognized by the sym driver. I had to use the ncr driver for it. Wilko, perhaps this might be useful to mention in HARDWARE.TXT. I tried building a kernel without any of the sio things, but it failed to link, saying it was missing "comconsole" and "sionattach" IIRC. I never knew that serial ports were an integral and mandatory part of FreeBSD. :) Is this a bug^H^H^Hfeature? If so, HARDWARE.TXT might want to mention this too. I'll file a PR if you think it should have linked fine without sio. I noticed that ed0 is not in the generic kernel. Will my old isa NE1000 work in that box, or should I (finally) buy some other NIC? Kees Jan ============================================== You are only young once, but you can stay immature all your life To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 10 4:54:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from news.uni-kl.de (news.uni-kl.de [131.246.137.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9327637B613 for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 04:54:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from naddy@unix-ag.uni-kl.de) Received: from sushi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de ( root@sushi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de [131.246.89.13] ) by news.uni-kl.de id aa23453 for ; 10 May 2000 13:54 MESZ Received: from fettuccini.unix-ag.uni-kl.de (fettuccini.unix-ag.uni-kl.de [131.246.89.27]) by sushi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA26060 for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 13:54:40 +0200 Received: (from naddy@localhost) by fettuccini.unix-ag.uni-kl.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA65808 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 May 2000 13:54:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from naddy) Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 13:54:44 +0200 From: Christian Weisgerber To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: How to fix unaligned access errors? Message-ID: <20000510135444.A65751@fettuccini.unix-ag.uni-kl.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You start a program, the kernel throws a million "unaligned access" errors. How do you go about finding and fixing those in the source? -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@unix-ag.uni-kl.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 10 5:20:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B527937B6C9 for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 05:20:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (john [10.0.0.2]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA06502; Wed, 10 May 2000 08:20:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200005101220.IAA06502@server.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D74C9@l04.research.kpn.com> Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 08:20:12 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: "Koster, K.J." Subject: RE: sio, nrc and sym questions for NoName Cc: FreeBSD Alpha mailing list Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 10-May-00 Koster, K.J. wrote: > Dear Alpha, > > First off: my NoName board works! FreeBSD installed flawlessly. The > sysinstall background is red, but it is my understanding that that's a > feature. It won't have a monitor anyway, so don't rush out to fix this for > me. :-) Actually, this is due to SRM messing up the colors in the palette. It basically swaps all the red and blue components, so that red is blue, blue is red, yellow is cyan, etc. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 10 5:21:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28CA837B5C5 for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 05:21:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA26475; Wed, 10 May 2000 08:21:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA80291; Wed, 10 May 2000 08:21:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 08:21:50 -0400 (EDT) To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to fix unaligned access errors? In-Reply-To: <20000510135444.A65751@fettuccini.unix-ag.uni-kl.de> References: <20000510135444.A65751@fettuccini.unix-ag.uni-kl.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14617.21495.418598.708837@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Christian Weisgerber writes: > You start a program, the kernel throws a million "unaligned access" > errors. > > How do you go about finding and fixing those in the source? > See uac(1) In the parent shell, say "uac -s" This will cause a SIGBUS to be sent to any children of this shell when they generate an unaligned access. You should now be able to debug it. Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 10 5:53:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA14537B65A for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 05:53:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA27009; Wed, 10 May 2000 08:53:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA80341; Wed, 10 May 2000 08:53:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 08:53:34 -0400 (EDT) To: Brett Bump Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3300/3305 and 5300/5305 Problems In-Reply-To: <3918CBC5.C9495F35@mail.enetis.net> References: <39148C07.E97DCEAF@mail.enetis.net> <14614.49806.293997.4055@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <3918CBC5.C9495F35@mail.enetis.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14617.22897.113127.677981@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brett Bump writes: <..> > Ok Andrew, here is what we come up with: > > halt code = 2 > kernel stack not valid halt > PC = fffffc000049704c > boot failure > >>>e ra > gpr: 1A( R26) FFFFFC000048F9A8 > >>> > > Gdb tells me: > > (gdb) l *0xfffffc000049704c > 0xfffffc000049704c is in vm_map_lookup (../../vm/vm_map.c:2470). <...> > (gdb) l *0xfffffc000048f9a8 > 0xfffffc000048f9a8 is in vm_fault (../../vm/vm_fault.c:206). <...> > Hope this helps. > > Brett Yes. Sorta. I think we're getting an memory access fault before we are ready to get one. Because of this, we end up taking a fault from somewhere in the vm_fault() call chain & essentially recursing (, trap, vm_fault, vm_map_lookup -> , trap, vm_fault, vm_map_lookup -> <...> ), until we run out of stack space and the palcode puts an end to it. Please edit sys/alpha/alpha/trap.c and add goto dopanic; prior to each call to vm_fault(). This should cause a message to be printed on the console similar to: trap entry = 0x2 (memory management fault) a0 = 0xfffffe00106aa000 a1 = 0x1 a2 = 0x0 pc = 0xfffffc00004f2f68 ra = 0xfffffc00004f2fec curproc = 0xfffffe00145e5cc0 pid = 1, comm = swapper Please transcribe this message, this will give me (and anybody else who cares to help) a clue about what is actually happening. I'm really only interested in the first message you see. Needless to say, don't expect to use this kernel with all the goto dopanics for anything -- you'll need to revert trap.c back to its original form once we get this debugged. Thanks, Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 10 7:41:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A5DA37B601 for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 07:41:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@c01-035.006.popsite.net [216.126.134.35]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA32823; Wed, 10 May 2000 07:41:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id HAA91061; Wed, 10 May 2000 07:41:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 07:41:04 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Koster, K.J." Cc: "'FreeBSD Alpha mailing list'" Subject: Re: sio, nrc and sym questions for NoName Message-ID: <20000510074104.A91023@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D74C9@l04.research.kpn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D74C9@l04.research.kpn.com>; from K.J.Koster@kpn.com on Wed, May 10, 2000 at 01:29:34PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 01:29:34PM +0100, Koster, K.J. wrote: > It seems that the onboard NCR 810 is not recognized by the sym driver. What is the date of your kernel? The `sym' maintainer just added suport for the NCR 810 chip. > I had to use the ncr driver for it. Wilko, perhaps this might be useful > to mention in HARDWARE.TXT. I use the `ncr' driver on my AS 250 and have no problems with it. So it isn't like using `ncr' is a terriable thing. IMHO the comments beside `ncr' and `sym' in the GENERIC kernel configuration file tell this. > I noticed that ed0 is not in the generic kernel. Will my old isa NE1000 work > in that box, or should I (finally) buy some other NIC? Unsure. I don't believe anyone has really tested it. A $10 PCI NIC will do very well in the NoName. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 10 7:55:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.research.kpn.com (hermes.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD28A37B60F; Wed, 10 May 2000 07:55:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from K.J.Koster@kpn.com) Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by research.kpn.com (PMDF V5.2-31 #42699) with ESMTP id <01JP8Q9FMOVO0001A2@research.kpn.com>; Wed, 10 May 2000 16:55:52 +0200 Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 10 May 2000 16:55:51 +0100 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 16:55:50 +0100 From: "Koster, K.J." Subject: RE: sio, nrc and sym questions for NoName To: "'obrien@FreeBSD.ORG'" Cc: 'FreeBSD Alpha mailing list' Message-id: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D74D3@l04.research.kpn.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 01:29:34PM +0100, Koster, K.J. wrote: > > It seems that the onboard NCR 810 is not recognized by the > sym driver. > > What is the date of your kernel? The `sym' maintainer just > added suport for the NCR 810 chip. > Dunno the date, but it's the 4.0 Release iso image from ftp.FreeBSD.org. With only 16Mb RAM I'm not going to build the world anytime soon. > > > I had to use the ncr driver for it. Wilko, perhaps this > > might be useful to mention in HARDWARE.TXT. > > I use the `ncr' driver on my AS 250 and have no problems with > it. So it isn't like using `ncr' is a terriable thing. IMHO the > comments beside `ncr' and `sym' in the GENERIC kernel > configuration file tell this. > Oh? It was my understanding that the ncr driver was to be replaced by the sym driver at some point. I guess that's a while off then. > > > I noticed that ed0 is not in the generic kernel. Will my > > old isa NE1000 work in that box, or should I (finally) buy > > some other NIC? > > Unsure. I don't believe anyone has really tested it. A $10 > PCI NIC will do very well in the NoName. > I don't doubt it will. It's just that I have the NE1000's in the cupboard and I get off work after shop's closing hours. :-) I'll be the first one to stick an NE1000 into the NoName then. Cool, I'm not usually a first mover. :) Kees Jan ============================================== You are only young once, but you can stay immature all your life To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 10 8: 1:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from news.uni-kl.de (news.uni-kl.de [131.246.137.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E07537B573 for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 08:01:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from naddy@unix-ag.uni-kl.de) Received: from sushi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de ( root@sushi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de [131.246.89.13] ) by news.uni-kl.de id aa09934 ; 10 May 2000 17:01 MESZ Received: from gnocchi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de (gnocchi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de [131.246.89.12]) by sushi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA06840; Wed, 10 May 2000 17:01:06 +0200 Received: (from naddy@localhost) by gnocchi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA01422; Wed, 10 May 2000 17:01:17 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from naddy) Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 17:01:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Christian Weisgerber Message-Id: <200005101501.RAA01422@gnocchi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de> To: K.J.Koster@kpn.com Subject: Re: sio, nrc and sym questions for NoName X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd.alpha In-Reply-To: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D74C9@l04.research.kpn.com> Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org K.J.Koster: > It seems that the onboard NCR 810 is not recognized by the sym driver. The sym driver used to require features that were only present in the 810A and later chips, but not in the ancient non-'A' 810. The latest versions of the driver in -CURRENT now support all NCR/Symbios/LSI chips. You can also use the very same driver (/sys/dev/sym) in 4.0-STABLE. In fact I do. ;-) The changes are going to be MFCed soon. > I tried building a kernel without any of the sio things, but it failed to > link, saying it was missing "comconsole" and "sionattach" IIRC. The alpha has somewhat different console handling. I guess there's a hidden dependency between the syscons and serial console code and nobody noticed before. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@unix-ag.uni-kl.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 10 8:10:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from news.uni-kl.de (news.uni-kl.de [131.246.137.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1B56137B60F; Wed, 10 May 2000 08:10:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from naddy@unix-ag.uni-kl.de) Received: from sushi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de ( root@sushi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de [131.246.89.13] ) by news.uni-kl.de id aa12339 ; 10 May 2000 17:10 MESZ Received: from gnocchi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de (gnocchi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de [131.246.89.12]) by sushi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA07395; Wed, 10 May 2000 17:10:23 +0200 Received: (from naddy@localhost) by gnocchi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA02053; Wed, 10 May 2000 17:10:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from naddy) Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 17:10:32 +0200 (CEST) From: Christian Weisgerber Message-Id: <200005101510.RAA02053@gnocchi.unix-ag.uni-kl.de> To: jhb@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sio, nrc and sym questions for NoName X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd.alpha In-Reply-To: <200005101220.IAA06502@server.baldwin.cx> References: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D74C9@l04.research.kpn.com> Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Baldwin wrote: > > sysinstall background is red, but it is my understanding that that's a > > feature. > > Actually, this is due to SRM messing up the colors in the palette. That was my first thought too, but in that case why does the FBIO_GETPALETTE ioctl() return the same palette entries on i386 and alpha? Another cosmetic console issue: Setting a "destructive" cursor with vidcontrol(1) gives a blinking underline on i386, but a blinking block on alpha. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@unix-ag.uni-kl.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 10 8:45:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2385E37B658 for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 08:45:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@c01-035.006.popsite.net [216.126.134.35]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA33137; Wed, 10 May 2000 08:45:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id IAA91477; Wed, 10 May 2000 08:45:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 08:45:29 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Koster, K.J." Cc: "'FreeBSD Alpha mailing list'" Subject: Re: sio, nrc and sym questions for NoName Message-ID: <20000510084529.A91343@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D74D3@l04.research.kpn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D74D3@l04.research.kpn.com>; from K.J.Koster@kpn.com on Wed, May 10, 2000 at 04:55:50PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 04:55:50PM +0100, Koster, K.J. wrote: > > What is the date of your kernel? The `sym' maintainer just > > added suport for the NCR 810 chip. > > > Dunno the date, but it's the 4.0 Release iso image from ftp.FreeBSD.org. > With only 16Mb RAM I'm not going to build the world anytime soon. Ah. The `sym' 810 support was just added, so it is not in 4.0. > > I use the `ncr' driver on my AS 250 and have no problems with > > it. So it isn't like using `ncr' is a terriable thing. IMHO the > > comments beside `ncr' and `sym' in the GENERIC kernel > > configuration file tell this. > > Oh? It was my understanding that the ncr driver was to be replaced by the > sym driver at some point. I guess that's a while off then. I never thought it was supose to for legacy devices. But then Gerald surprised me by adding 810(non A) and 825(non A) support to `sym'. -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 10 10:31:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay01.chello.nl (smtp.chello.nl [212.83.68.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C4E37B6A0; Wed, 10 May 2000 10:31:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay01.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license eb4b2a5620dc3934c7c631b507644fb6) with ESMTP id <20000510173139.MHZN11061.relay01@chello.nl>; Wed, 10 May 2000 19:31:39 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA00960; Wed, 10 May 2000 19:31:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 19:31:12 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "David O'Brien" Cc: "Koster, K.J." , "'FreeBSD Alpha mailing list'" Subject: Re: sio, nrc and sym questions for NoName Message-ID: <20000510193112.A905@jedi.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl References: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D74D3@l04.research.kpn.com> <20000510084529.A91343@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000510084529.A91343@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, May 10, 2000 at 08:45:29AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 08:45:29AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 04:55:50PM +0100, Koster, K.J. wrote: > > > What is the date of your kernel? The `sym' maintainer just > > > added suport for the NCR 810 chip. > > > [...] > > Oh? It was my understanding that the ncr driver was to be replaced by the > > sym driver at some point. I guess that's a while off then. > > I never thought it was supose to for legacy devices. But then Gerald > surprised me by adding 810(non A) and 825(non A) support to `sym'. Yes, Gerard is surprising ;-) Kudos to him for sym, it works great! -- Wilko Bulte Powered by FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 10 11:18:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from tibor.org (cable-117-5-237-24.anchorageak.net [24.237.5.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A659D37B6A0 for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 11:18:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tibor@tibor.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by tibor.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4537323805 for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 10:18:37 -0800 (AKDT) Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 10:18:37 -0800 (AKDT) From: Mike Tibor To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Printing Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In looking at the archives, it appears that the parallel port driver hasn't yet been ported to Alpha--however I couldn't find any recent messages on this (most recent message dealing with this that I could find was about 6 months old). 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 10 11:52:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postal.blacksun.org (postal.blacksun.org [168.100.186.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E843137B6A0 for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 11:52:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from don@blacksun.org) Received: from calis.blacksun.org (unknown [168.100.186.40]) by postal.blacksun.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B378171641 for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 14:52:13 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 14:55:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Don To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Power Supply Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone know where I can get a replacement power supply for an AS200? Preferably an original but any power supply that will fit would be fine. -don To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 10 13: 4: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from front2m.grolier.fr (front2m.grolier.fr [195.36.216.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 902AD37B6C4; Wed, 10 May 2000 13:03:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from groudier@club-internet.fr) Received: from ppp-107-212.villette.club-internet.fr (ppp-107-212.villette.club-internet.fr [194.158.107.212]) by front2m.grolier.fr (8.9.3/No_Relay+No_Spam_MGC990224) with ESMTP id VAA22316; Wed, 10 May 2000 21:54:09 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 21:39:12 +0200 (CEST) From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard_Roudier?= X-Sender: groudier@linux.local To: "David O'Brien" Cc: "Koster, K.J." , "'FreeBSD Alpha mailing list'" Subject: Re: sio, nrc and sym questions for NoName In-Reply-To: <20000510084529.A91343@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I will reply to this one. :) On Wed, 10 May 2000, David O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, May 10, 2000 at 04:55:50PM +0100, Koster, K.J. wrote: > > > What is the date of your kernel? The `sym' maintainer just=20 > > > added suport for the NCR 810 chip. =20 > > > > > Dunno the date, but it's the 4.0 Release iso image from ftp.FreeBSD.org= =2E > > With only 16Mb RAM I'm not going to build the world anytime soon. >=20 > Ah. The `sym' 810 support was just added, so it is not in 4.0. > =20 >=20 > > > I use the `ncr' driver on my AS 250 and have no problems with=20 > > > it. So it isn't like using `ncr' is a terriable thing. IMHO the What I can understand from the source let me think that the `ncr' has no obvious software bugs. The driver is probably quite reliable with legacy NCR 810, 815, 825. For some recent SYMBIOS chip types of early revisions, the `ncr' driver may trigger some chip errata that could not be known by the maintainers of this driver. I could carefully examine the code, compare against the errata listings I have and add 'on paper' and untested fixes, but this would just be time wasted for me given the `sym'. Btw, the `sym' learnt a lot from `ncr', as you can read in the header of each `sym' driver source files. > > > comments beside `ncr' and `sym' in the GENERIC kernel > > > configuration file tell this. > > > > Oh? It was my understanding that the ncr driver was to be replaced by t= he > > sym driver at some point. I guess that's a while off then. >=20 > I never thought it was supose to for legacy devices. But then Gerald > surprised me by adding 810(non A) and 825(non A) support to `sym'. Hmmm... I am still able to change my mind at any time and I am proud of that. :-) The short term plan for `sym' looks like: - Current sym-1.5.3 MFCed to both RELENG_4 and RELENG_3. - MFC to RELENG_4 should normally happen over the week-end. My major project about `sym' for this year is to reduce time spent for drivers maintainance and also make this driver really portable. Support for legacy NCR chips was part of this project, since it will allow me to mostly have a single driver (modulo about 1000-1500 lines of code per O/S) to maintain for all the targetted O/Ses (At least Linux and FreeBSD, obviously). G=E9rard. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 10 14:31:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from gw.one.com.au (gw.one.com.au [203.18.85.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84DDD37B6DA for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 14:31:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from raymond@one.com.au) Received: from one.com.au (pmo.local [10.18.85.2]) by gw.one.com.au (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id HAA02821 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 May 2000 07:31:38 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from raymond@one.com.au) Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 07:31:38 +1000 (EST) From: User Raymond Message-Id: <200005102131.HAA02821@gw.one.com.au> Subject: Attempting to install 4.0-RELEASE (more) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org > I am trying to install 4.0-RELEASE on an AlphaStation 200 4/166 > with no joy so far - could someone please offer pointers. > > I have tried booting from both CD and floppy - the following is > some of the information that appears, please advise if any other > info would help. > > > Ray Newman > > > AlphaStation 200 4/166, 166MHz > CPU: EV4 (21064) major=2 minor=0 > OSF PAL rev: 0x100000002012e > (probe0:ncr0:0:0:n): MSG_MESSAGE_REJECT received (35:8). > for n = 1 to 7 a similar message occurs twice. > > Finds, sa0, da0, cd0 and da1 (which is correct) > > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c > > Comes up with the "Probing devices" screen > > then: panic: Going nowhere without my init! I stuffed about booting kernel.GENERIC from the second CD. It has the same problem but tells me it's looking for its root on da0 (where it's not). I managed to get this CD booted by telling it cd9660:cd0a is where it's at but couldn't manage that at the "ok" prompt when booting from the first CD or floppy. I tried set rootdev cd9660:cd0a but that didn't help. Can someone advise as to which srm or loader commands I can use to convince this that it's root device is where it actually is? Ray Newman BTW: The CD is at DKA0, is this confusing it? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 10 15:59:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7FF637B6DA; Wed, 10 May 2000 15:59:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id QAA29126; Wed, 10 May 2000 16:59:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ken) Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 16:59:13 -0600 From: "Kenneth D. Merry" To: Doug Rabson Cc: Mike Smith , obrien@freebsd.org, Matthew Jacob , alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: borked Alpha boot loader? Message-ID: <20000510165913.A29033@panzer.kdm.org> References: <200005092359.QAA21039@mass.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from dfr@nlsystems.com on Wed, May 10, 2000 at 09:28:41AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I appreciate all the suggestions for fixing my botched loader. For those reading the archives, here is what I did to fix it: - downloaded the 4.0 bindist and boot floppies - untarred the bindist into a directory - got netbooting up and running: in /etc/inetd.conf: tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/libexec/tftpd tftpd -l -s /a/ken/dl/freebsd/4.0 / bootps dgram udp wait root /usr/libexec/bootpd bootpd -d 4 -c /a/ken/dl/freebsd/4.0 /etc/bootptab in /etc/bootptab: subway.plutotech.com: \ :ht=ethernet:ha=0000f8757c14: \ :ip=206.168.67.172:sm=255.255.255.128: \ :sa=206.168.67.147:bf=boot/netboot:rp=/a/ken/dl/freebsd/4.0: \ :vm=rfc1048 - vnconfig and mounted boot.flp from the 4.0 distribution - copied the kernel.gz from boot.flp out into the root directory of the untarred bindist, and decompressed it - 'boot ewa0' on the PWS 433 - go into fixit and start the emergency holographic shell - mount_nfs the filesystem with the 4.0 bindist - set the PATH so I can use ls, df, etc. - use 'mount' from the 4.0 bindist to mount the root FreeBSD parition on the 433au box. I had to use the da1a device node from the /dev directory in the bindist. - go into /boot on the root FreeBSD partition and copy the working loader (/boot/loader.old) on top of the broken loader (/boot/loader) - reboot, and everything works! Of course I've now done a 'disklabel -B da1' so I can specify another loader and won't have this problem again. Along the way, I tried to netboot the 'kernel.GENERIC' from the 4.0 bindist, but I discovered that it setting the boot_askname variable in the loader doesn't work on Alpha boxes, or at least not from the netboot loader. So every time I booted up with that kernel, it would panic because it couldn't find init. (Since I couldn't tell it where the root device was. Setting rootdev in the loader didn't seem to help either, and lsdev only found net0, nothing else.) I did get a set of CDs from Justin, but unfortunately they were the i386 CDs, and so they wouldn't help in this situation. That's probably the easiest way to fix the problem, if you've got access to Alpha CDs. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 10 16:43:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from lh2.rdc1.tx.home.com (ha2.rdc1.tx.home.com [24.4.0.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C20537BA44 for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 16:43:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from miklic@ibm.net) Received: from ibm.net ([24.10.140.87]) by lh2.rdc1.tx.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with ESMTP id <20000510234314.PAKY25186.lh2.rdc1.tx.home.com@ibm.net> for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 16:43:14 -0700 Message-ID: <391A02DC.63936163@ibm.net> Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 00:46:21 +0000 From: "Andrew M. Miklic" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT alpha) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Parrallel Port/Printer Code Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org All, I've got a bunch of files that get ppc and lpt working for Alpha, but I'm having trouble getting diff files successfully generated from my sources--if anyone is willing to volunteer to generate these diffs and send them to Doug Rabson, let me know, and I'll send you the files and his email address... Thanks, Andrew Miklic To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 10 17:28:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (mass.cdrom.com [204.216.28.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F30237B69A for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 17:28:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA01226; Wed, 10 May 2000 17:28:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200005110028.RAA01226@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Andrew M. Miklic" Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Parrallel Port/Printer Code In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 May 2000 00:46:21 -0000." <391A02DC.63936163@ibm.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 17:28:19 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > All, > > I've got a bunch of files that get ppc and lpt working for Alpha, > but I'm having trouble getting diff files successfully generated from my > sources--if anyone is willing to volunteer to generate these diffs and > send them to Doug Rabson, let me know, and I'll send you the files and > his email address... Feel free to pass them my way; I had a tangential involvement with the original ppbus code and I can probably help you out. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 10 17:47:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.enetis.net (mail.enetis.net [206.31.204.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DCFE37B9FE for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 17:47:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bbump@mail.enetis.net) Received: from mail.enetis.net (rc-pm3-3-13.enetis.net [206.31.207.124]) by mail.enetis.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA09797 for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 18:47:26 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <391A031A.4CB8509A@mail.enetis.net> Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 18:47:22 -0600 From: Brett Bump X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 3300/3305 and 5300/5305 Problems References: <39148C07.E97DCEAF@mail.enetis.net> <14614.49806.293997.4055@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <3918CBC5.C9495F35@mail.enetis.net> <14617.22897.113127.677981@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Yes. Sorta. I think we're getting an memory access fault before > we are ready to get one. Because of this, we end up taking a fault > from somewhere in the vm_fault() call chain & essentially recursing > (, trap, vm_fault, vm_map_lookup -> , trap, vm_fault, > vm_map_lookup -> <...> ), until we run out of stack space and > the palcode puts an end to it. > > Please edit sys/alpha/alpha/trap.c and add > goto dopanic; > prior to each call to vm_fault(). Ok Andrew here is the next installment in the SAGA of the 3300/3305: fatal kernel trap: trap entry = 0x2 (memory management fault) a0 = 0x0 a1 = 0x1 a2 = 0xffffffffffffffff pc = 0x0 ra = 0xfffffc00004b16cc curproc = 0 panic: trap Uptime: 0s (gdb) l *0xfffffc00004b16cc 0xfffffc00004b16cc is in alpha_init (../../alpha/alpha/machdep.c:747). 742 cputype = hwrpb->rpb_type; 743 if (cputype >= ncpuinit) { 744 platform_not_supported(cputype); 745 /* NOTREACHED */ 746 } 747 cpuinit[cputype].init(cputype); 748 snprintf(cpu_model, sizeof(cpu_model), "%s", platform.model); 749 750 /* 751 * Initalize the real console, so the the bootstrap console is (gdb) Um...does this look like what I think it looks like? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 10 18:18:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94CFF37BAB2 for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 18:18:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA15306; Wed, 10 May 2000 21:18:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id VAA84363; Wed, 10 May 2000 21:18:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 21:17:52 -0400 (EDT) To: Brett Bump Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 3300/3305 and 5300/5305 Problems In-Reply-To: <391A031A.4CB8509A@mail.enetis.net> References: <39148C07.E97DCEAF@mail.enetis.net> <14614.49806.293997.4055@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <3918CBC5.C9495F35@mail.enetis.net> <14617.22897.113127.677981@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <391A031A.4CB8509A@mail.enetis.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14618.1978.586094.137060@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brett Bump writes: > > Um...does this look like what I think it looks like? To me it looks like something that makes sense! I remember hearing that the whitebox numbers were negative.. Try this: Index: sys/alpha/alpha/machdep.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/alpha/alpha/machdep.c,v retrieving revision 1.68 diff -u -r1.68 machdep.c --- sys/alpha/alpha/machdep.c 2000/02/29 08:48:08 1.68 +++ sys/alpha/alpha/machdep.c 2000/05/11 01:16:06 @@ -740,6 +740,14 @@ * Find out what hardware we're on, and do basic initialization. */ cputype = hwrpb->rpb_type; + if (cputype < 0) { + /* + * At least some white-box systems have SRM which + * reports a systype that's the negative of their + * blue-box counterpart. + */ + cputype = -cputype; + } if (cputype >= ncpuinit) { platform_not_supported(cputype); /* NOTREACHED */ Cheers, Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 10 19:55:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.cdrom.com [204.216.28.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EBB937B7E4 for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 19:55:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id TAA02328 for alpha@freebsd.org; Wed, 10 May 2000 19:39:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 10 May 2000 19:39:49 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: need help finding when /boot/loader broke Message-ID: <20000510193949.A2311@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@nuxi.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have narrowed down when /boot/loader broke for me. On a current -CURRENT box: cd /sys/boot cvs up -D 5/1/2000 make obj ; make depend ; make all install produces a working loader. Using cvs up -D 5/2/2000 above does not. It would be quite helpful if people could check to see if that is when the loader broke for them. There are two different failures modes people are seeing, and I want to know if they both happen across this time period. P.S. DON'T FORGET to have a backup loader as /boot/loader.good *AND* to update your boot blocks (which allow you specify a different loader than the hardcoded "/boot/loader"). -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 10 23:20:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF6B337B6B0 for ; Wed, 10 May 2000 23:20:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p02-dn02kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [211.0.245.67]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN/) with ESMTP id PAA00562; Thu, 11 May 2000 15:20:03 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <391A5149.AC09B00A@newsguy.com> Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 15:20:57 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@NUXI.com Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: need help finding when /boot/loader broke References: <20000510193949.A2311@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien wrote: > > I have narrowed down when /boot/loader broke for me. On a current > -CURRENT box: > > cd /sys/boot > cvs up -D 5/1/2000 > make obj ; make depend ; make all install > > produces a working loader. Using > > cvs up -D 5/2/2000 > > above does not. It would be quite helpful if people could check to see > if that is when the loader broke for them. There are two different > failures modes people are seeing, and I want to know if they both happen > across this time period. I see two changes around this period: Ext2FS added to libstand (which you are not synching there) and bp changes to accept the new kld format. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@tutti.capi.bsdconspiracy.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 11 6:40:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3493037B902 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 06:40:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA27468; Thu, 11 May 2000 09:40:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA85504; Thu, 11 May 2000 09:40:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 09:40:53 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Brett Bump Subject: Re: 3300/3305 and 5300/5305 Problems In-Reply-To: <14618.1978.586094.137060@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> References: <39148C07.E97DCEAF@mail.enetis.net> <14614.49806.293997.4055@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <3918CBC5.C9495F35@mail.enetis.net> <14617.22897.113127.677981@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <391A031A.4CB8509A@mail.enetis.net> <14618.1978.586094.137060@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14618.47069.139786.832053@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Gallatin writes: > > Brett Bump writes: > > > > Um...does this look like what I think it looks like? > > To me it looks like something that makes sense! I remember hearing > that the whitebox numbers were negative.. Try this: For anybody else following this saga, my patch fixed Brett's problem. I've committed the fix (obtained from NetBSD, btw) to current (rev 1.80) and stable (1.68.2.4). So the next snapshot should be installable on this type of alpha. Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 11 12:39:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay01.chello.nl (smtp.chello.nl [212.83.68.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6309F37B780; Thu, 11 May 2000 12:39:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay01.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license eb4b2a5620dc3934c7c631b507644fb6) with ESMTP id <20000511193926.CKGM16821.relay01@chello.nl>; Thu, 11 May 2000 21:39:26 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA01952; Thu, 11 May 2000 21:39:03 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 21:39:03 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: John Baldwin Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: USB support for some Alphas Message-ID: <20000511213903.A1935@jedi.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl References: <200005092256.SAA05444@server.baldwin.cx> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200005092256.SAA05444@server.baldwin.cx>; from jhb@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, May 09, 2000 at 06:56:35PM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 09, 2000 at 06:56:35PM -0400, John Baldwin wrote: > Well, I've managed to get an XP900 to play with this week, and > have added in support to the resource manager to handle the USB > controller on Alphas with the cia and tsunami chipsets. According > to Doug Rabson: > > The USB hardware on this platform interrupts via the ISA pic. SRM > represents this as an interrupt pin of 0xe0 + isa irq no. Unfortunately I > have not put in support in the alpha pci code to recognise this so the > interrupt allocation fails. The place to add this support is probably > pci_alloc_resource() in sys/alpha/pci/pcibus.c. > > Not having much to do between finals this week, I've managed to get > this working in the patchset at > http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/patches/alpha.usb.patch. I'd like to > commit this relatively soon (day or two) to -current, so please test > this out. Thanks. .. I'd like to keep alpha/HARDWARE.TXT in line with reality so please check if the USB support that John has created works for you? [I don't have this hardware available :-( ] -- Wilko Bulte FreeBSD, the power to serve http://www.freebsd.org http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 11 12:46:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from bobino.chemcomp.com (bobino.sefmedia.com [207.164.6.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9839137B8E9 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 12:46:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abeaupre@chemcomp.com) Received: from ip208.montreal21.dialup.canada.psi.net (ip208.montreal21.dialup.canada.psi.net [154.5.100.208]) by bobino.sefmedia.com (NTMail 5.05.0002/NT6102.00.ff403942) with ESMTP id vapgaaaa for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 May 2000 15:46:36 -0400 Received: from sylvester [192.1.1.19] by chemcomp.com (FTGate 2, 2, 0, 1); Thu, 11 May 00 15:46:50 -0400 Received: by sylvester with Microsoft Mail id <01BFBB5F.CBB29970@sylvester>; Thu, 11 May 2000 15:44:30 -0400 Message-ID: <01BFBB5F.CBB29970@sylvester> From: System Admin To: 'FreeBSD Alpha' Subject: Can't install on DEC Alpha 600au Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 15:44:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! Please help a desperate FBSD user to get away from the grip of M$ = software! (I'm writing this in "Windows Messaging", sorry for the = inconvenience...) I'm trying to install FBSD alpha to a DEC alpha 600au (1Gb RAM, 2 SCSI = disks of 8Gb). What I did: - Installed a SRM firmware console - booted from kern.flp and mfsroot.flp disks taken from = ftp.freebsd.org/.../alpha/4.0-RELEASE/... - ran sysinstall and tried to install=20 What I got - binary distributions installed successfully - "Unable to copy /kernel into place!" On VTY2: cp: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected I get the same when I try to run some of the installed binaries via the = "emergency holographic shell" ('cause I can't get a fixit floppy to = work). I even tried to copy the kernel in place by myself ("cd /dist && echo = kernel | cpio -p /") and at boot up: ... Loading /boot/loader - halted CPU 0 halt code =3D 2 kernel stack not valid halt PC =3D 0 >>> Also, when I try to install X distributions, the box just makes a = buzzing noise and reboots after synching discs (probably a panic). I'm beginning to wonder... How can one tell apart a I386 CDROM from a = Alpha one? I got this one from a friend, and maybe he could have = downloaded the wrong image, as I could not boot straight from the CD. Anyways, if anyone can help, this would be greatly appreciated. I'm = kinda tired of running NT on these beautiful boxes.. :) Thank you. Antoine Beaupre Sys admin Chemical Computing Group To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 11 12:56:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A51337B55F for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 12:56:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA06985; Thu, 11 May 2000 15:56:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA86992; Thu, 11 May 2000 15:56:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 15:56:46 -0400 (EDT) To: System Admin Cc: "'FreeBSD Alpha'" Subject: Re: Can't install on DEC Alpha 600au In-Reply-To: <01BFBB5F.CBB29970@sylvester> References: <01BFBB5F.CBB29970@sylvester> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14619.4128.514562.609849@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org System Admin writes: > I'm beginning to wonder... How can one tell apart a I386 CDROM from a Alpha one? I got this one from a friend, and maybe he could have downloaded the wrong image, as I could not boot straight from the CD. Given that you're getting a syntax error when running binaries, it is very likely that you have the i386 CD. Can you burn your own CD from the iso image? Or install via the network? Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 11 13:15:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from bobino.chemcomp.com (bobino.sefmedia.com [207.164.6.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A06F837BD19 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 13:15:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abeaupre@chemcomp.com) Received: from ip234.montreal41.dialup.canada.psi.net (ip234.montreal41.dialup.canada.psi.net [154.5.52.234]) by bobino.sefmedia.com (NTMail 5.05.0002/NT6102.00.ff403942) with ESMTP id bbpgaaaa for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Thu, 11 May 2000 16:15:46 -0400 Received: from sylvester [192.1.1.19] by chemcomp.com (FTGate 2, 2, 0, 1); Thu, 11 May 00 16:14:05 -0400 Received: by sylvester with Microsoft Mail id <01BFBB63.9A632B10@sylvester>; Thu, 11 May 2000 16:11:45 -0400 Message-ID: <01BFBB63.9A632B10@sylvester> From: System Admin To: 'Andrew Gallatin' Cc: 'FreeBSD Alpha' Subject: RE: Can't install on DEC Alpha 600au Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 16:11:44 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, after verification, the kernel on the CD itself is Intel 80386 by = the file command... :( I feel so dumb. The problem is that I only have a 28.8 kbps access = here... It will take years to download the damn image.. And the box = itself is not linked to the net. Only local.=20 Nevermind.. My friend will make another one prompto! :) Thanks again, and sorry for the stupid questions.. A. ---------- From: Andrew Gallatin Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2000 3:56 PM To: System Admin Cc: 'FreeBSD Alpha' Subject: Re: Can't install on DEC Alpha 600au System Admin writes: > I'm beginning to wonder... How can one tell apart a I386 CDROM from a = Alpha one? I got this one from a friend, and maybe he could have = downloaded the wrong image, as I could not boot straight from the CD. Given that you're getting a syntax error when running binaries, it is very likely that you have the i386 CD. Can you burn your own CD from the iso image? Or install via the = network? Drew -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 11 13:25:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay01.chello.nl (smtp.chello.nl [212.83.68.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252EB37BBE3 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 13:25:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay01.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license eb4b2a5620dc3934c7c631b507644fb6) with ESMTP id <20000511202534.CVCG16821.relay01@chello.nl>; Thu, 11 May 2000 22:25:34 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA02146; Thu, 11 May 2000 22:25:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 22:25:11 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: System Admin Cc: "'FreeBSD Alpha'" Subject: Re: Can't install on DEC Alpha 600au Message-ID: <20000511222511.A2104@jedi.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl References: <01BFBB5F.CBB29970@sylvester> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <01BFBB5F.CBB29970@sylvester>; from abeaupre@chemcomp.com on Thu, May 11, 2000 at 03:44:29PM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 03:44:29PM -0400, System Admin wrote: > Hi! > > Please help a desperate FBSD user to get away from the grip of M$ software! (I'm writing this in "Windows Messaging", sorry for the inconvenience...) > > I'm trying to install FBSD alpha to a DEC alpha 600au (1Gb RAM, 2 SCSI disks of 8Gb). > ... > I'm beginning to wonder... How can one tell apart a I386 CDROM from a Alpha one? I got this one from a friend, and maybe he could have downloaded the wrong image, as I could not boot straight from the CD. FWIW: the 4.0R/alpha CDROM is definitely bootable on my Miata 600au. And installs like a charm. My best bet is a wrong iso image has been used to create your CD. -- Wilko Bulte FreeBSD, the power to serve http://www.freebsd.org http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 11 14: 3:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A742D37BBA5 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 14:03:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@c07-165.006.popsite.net [64.24.39.165]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA16710; Thu, 11 May 2000 14:03:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id OAA07581; Thu, 11 May 2000 14:03:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 14:03:41 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: System Admin Cc: "'FreeBSD Alpha'" Subject: Re: Can't install on DEC Alpha 600au Message-ID: <20000511140341.A7362@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <01BFBB63.9A632B10@sylvester> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <01BFBB63.9A632B10@sylvester>; from abeaupre@chemcomp.com on Thu, May 11, 2000 at 04:11:44PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 04:11:44PM -0400, System Admin wrote: > The problem is that I only have a 28.8 kbps access here... It will take > years to download the damn image.. And the box itself is not linked to > the net. Only local. You can buy the 4-disc CDROM set for AXP Alpha from http://www.freebsdmall.com/software/#bsdalph :-) -- David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 11 14: 7:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from gw.one.com.au (gw.one.com.au [203.18.85.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9010137BBBA for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 14:07:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from raymond@one.com.au) Received: from one.com.au (pmo.local [10.18.85.2]) by gw.one.com.au (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id HAA05533 for freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 12 May 2000 07:07:36 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from raymond@one.com.au) Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 07:07:36 +1000 (EST) From: User Raymond Message-Id: <200005112107.HAA05533@gw.one.com.au> Subject: Can't install on DEC Alpha 600au Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG > On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 04:11:44PM -0400, System Admin wrote: > > The problem is that I only have a 28.8 kbps access here... It will take > > years to download the damn image.. And the box itself is not linked to > > the net. Only local. > > You can buy the 4-disc CDROM set for AXP Alpha from > http://www.freebsdmall.com/software/#bsdalph :-) > > -- David But they don't install on the AlphaStation 200 4/166... Ray Newman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 11 14:16:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D894237B7DB for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 14:16:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA09064; Thu, 11 May 2000 17:16:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA87125; Thu, 11 May 2000 17:16:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 17:16:18 -0400 (EDT) To: User Raymond Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't install on DEC Alpha 600au In-Reply-To: <200005112107.HAA05533@gw.one.com.au> References: <200005112107.HAA05533@gw.one.com.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14619.8956.860317.606250@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org User Raymond writes: > To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG > > > On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 04:11:44PM -0400, System Admin wrote: > > > The problem is that I only have a 28.8 kbps access here... It will take > > > years to download the damn image.. And the box itself is not linked to > > > the net. Only local. > > > > You can buy the 4-disc CDROM set for AXP Alpha from > > http://www.freebsdmall.com/software/#bsdalph :-) > > > > -- David > > But they don't install on the AlphaStation 200 4/166... > > Ray Newman They don't install on yours. They install on mine, though. Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 11 15:14:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from gw.one.com.au (gw.one.com.au [203.18.85.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB78C37BAAA for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 15:14:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from raymond@one.com.au) Received: from one.com.au (pmo.local [10.18.85.2]) by gw.one.com.au (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id IAA05626 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 May 2000 08:14:05 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from raymond@one.com.au) Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 08:14:05 +1000 (EST) From: User Raymond Message-Id: <200005112214.IAA05626@gw.one.com.au> Subject: Can't install on DEC Alpha 600au Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org David O'Brien wrote: > On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 07:07:36AM +1000, User Raymond wrote: > > But they don't install on the AlphaStation 200 4/166... > > They do on my DS-20, UP2000, PS-500a, PC164SX, AS 250 4/266, and AS 200 > 4/233. I wonder what is wrong with my AS200 4/166 then - stock Digital nachine with the TGA card replaced with an ISA card for FreeBSD.... It just can't seem to find its root device after the kernel gets up. Any ideas? Ray Newman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 11 16:20:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (mass.cdrom.com [204.216.28.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5D637B63C for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 16:20:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA01740; Thu, 11 May 2000 16:20:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200005112320.QAA01740@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: System Admin Cc: "'FreeBSD Alpha'" Subject: Re: Can't install on DEC Alpha 600au In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 May 2000 15:44:29 EDT." <01BFBB5F.CBB29970@sylvester> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 16:20:55 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm trying to install FBSD alpha to a DEC alpha 600au (1Gb RAM, 2 SCSI = disks of 8Gb). =2E.. > cp: 1: Syntax error: "(" unexpected You have attempted to install i386 FreeBSD onto an Alpha. Doesn't work = very well. Note that if you have the correct ISO image, the CDROM itself will boot = on the Alpha. If it doesn't, you've got a good indication that you're = mismatched. -- = \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 11 17:17:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB20C37B6C4 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 17:17:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@c05-116.006.popsite.net [216.126.138.116]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA18200; Thu, 11 May 2000 17:17:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA12155; Thu, 11 May 2000 17:17:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 17:17:17 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: User Raymond Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't install on DEC Alpha 600au Message-ID: <20000511171717.A9513@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <200005112214.IAA05626@gw.one.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200005112214.IAA05626@gw.one.com.au>; from raymond@one.com.au on Fri, May 12, 2000 at 08:14:05AM +1000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-PGP-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Keyid: 34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 08:14:05AM +1000, User Raymond wrote: > I wonder what is wrong with my AS200 4/166 then - stock Digital nachine > with the TGA card replaced with an ISA card for FreeBSD.... Do we support ISA graphic cards? -- -- David (obrien@NUXI.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 11 17:20:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (mass.cdrom.com [204.216.28.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 014F337BBAA; Thu, 11 May 2000 17:20:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02442; Thu, 11 May 2000 17:21:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200005120021.RAA02442@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: obrien@freebsd.org Cc: User Raymond , alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't install on DEC Alpha 600au In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 11 May 2000 17:17:17 PDT." <20000511171717.A9513@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 17:21:05 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 08:14:05AM +1000, User Raymond wrote: > > I wonder what is wrong with my AS200 4/166 then - stock Digital nachine > > with the TGA card replaced with an ISA card for FreeBSD.... > > Do we support ISA graphic cards? Yes. Bill Paul's AS200 has an ISA card in it, AFAIK. If it doesn't now, it certainly did for some time before we sent it to him. -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 11 23:46:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay01.chello.nl (smtp.chello.nl [212.83.68.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AAB2637B6C4; Thu, 11 May 2000 23:46:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay01.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license eb4b2a5620dc3934c7c631b507644fb6) with ESMTP id <20000512064702.FTQN16821.relay01@chello.nl>; Fri, 12 May 2000 08:47:02 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA09273; Fri, 12 May 2000 08:46:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 08:46:38 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "David O'Brien" Cc: User Raymond , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Can't install on DEC Alpha 600au Message-ID: <20000512084638.A9232@jedi.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl References: <200005112214.IAA05626@gw.one.com.au> <20000511171717.A9513@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000511171717.A9513@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Thu, May 11, 2000 at 05:17:17PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, May 11, 2000 at 05:17:17PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 08:14:05AM +1000, User Raymond wrote: > > I wonder what is wrong with my AS200 4/166 then - stock Digital nachine > > with the TGA card replaced with an ISA card for FreeBSD.... > > Do we support ISA graphic cards? Yes, I've run both a NoName and an Aspen Alpine on both Mach64-ISA and ET4000-ISA cards. As long as the SRM comes to terms with a card it seems to be OK -- Wilko Bulte FreeBSD, the power to serve http://www.freebsd.org http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 11 23:53:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay01.chello.nl (smtp.chello.nl [212.83.68.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E5F637B5D8 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 23:53:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay01.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license eb4b2a5620dc3934c7c631b507644fb6) with ESMTP id <20000512065338.FUQJ16821.relay01@chello.nl> for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 08:53:38 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA09323 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 May 2000 08:53:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 08:53:15 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: beta SRM code for UP1000 alpha machine Message-ID: <20000512085315.B9232@jedi.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org UP1000 owners wake up! The folks at Alpha-processor sent me an email indicating that there is a beta-SRM version available for the UP1000. I don't have an UP1000 but those of you who do might want to give this a try: http://www.alpha-processor.com/products/downloads/customer_support/UP1000/ cheers, -- Wilko Bulte FreeBSD, the power to serve http://www.freebsd.org http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 12 1:17:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.butya.kz (butya-gw.butya.kz [212.154.129.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCD2237B89C for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 01:17:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bp@butya.kz) Received: from bp (helo=localhost) by relay.butya.kz with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12qAdQ-000G9D-00 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 May 2000 15:17:24 +0700 Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 15:17:24 +0700 (ALMST) From: Boris Popov To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Loader fixed Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, There was a bug introduced by recent commit to the loader. It was caused by long != int problem. Now it fixed. However loader still has problem with sizes more 128k? and Peter Wemm has disabled FICL support on Alphas. My apologies for everyone. -- Boris Popov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 12 2:50:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from gw.one.com.au (gw.one.com.au [203.18.85.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB14937BA39 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 02:50:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from raymond@one.com.au) Received: from one.com.au (pmo.local [10.18.85.2]) by gw.one.com.au (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id TAA07008 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 May 2000 19:50:29 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from raymond@one.com.au) Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 19:50:29 +1000 (EST) From: User Raymond Message-Id: <200005120950.TAA07008@gw.one.com.au> Subject: More on AS200 won't install Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Continuing the saga... > Same thing happens when booting from Walnut Creek 4.0-RELEASE CDROM > and from kern & mfsroot floppies made from that CD. > > I also tried booting CD #2 and using kernel.GENERIC - this actually > got to the stage of telling me that it couldn't find its root > on da0 when it should have been looking at cd0. I got that up > using the srm -fl cd9660:cd0a switch but this wouldn't work > with CD #1 and I've no idea of the device name for mfsroot. I have just tried: 1. Booting V3.4 (downloaded) still says "can't find init" 2. Booting V3.2 (floppies from CD dist) ditto THEN, I tried booting the V4.0 CD with ALL other SCSI devices disconnected - and it worked (came up with the install menu). Note: It was DKA100 - RZ26, DKA200 - RZ28 and DKA300 - CD. and I have tried it with the CD at DKA0. BUT that's not much use as (at that point) I don't have any disk to install it on (and hot plugging doesn't work). Does this provoke and suggestions? Ray Newman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 12 3: 2: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from gw.one.com.au (gw.one.com.au [203.18.85.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B71F37BA39 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 03:02:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from raymond@one.com.au) Received: from one.com.au (pmo.local [10.18.85.2]) by gw.one.com.au (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id UAA07047 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 May 2000 20:02:02 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from raymond@one.com.au) Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 20:02:02 +1000 (EST) From: User Raymond Message-Id: <200005121002.UAA07047@gw.one.com.au> Subject: More on AS200 won't install Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Koster, K.J. wrote: > Is your SCSI properly terminated? > > Kees Jan It certainly was when I had the CD at DKA0 as I was using an external device. Now I'm using an internal CD, it SHOULD be as I have set the control_scsi_term srm variable to internal. But... I'm not too sure. I know VMS worked with both of these configurations. Ray Newman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 12 3: 5:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from finch-post-10.mail.demon.net (finch-post-10.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CC4B37BD15 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 03:05:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from nlsys.demon.co.uk ([158.152.125.33] helo=herring.nlsystems.com) by finch-post-10.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12qCK1-000BhO-0A; Fri, 12 May 2000 10:05:29 +0000 Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA62955; Fri, 12 May 2000 11:09:11 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 11:09:58 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: wc.bulte@chello.nl Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: beta SRM code for UP1000 alpha machine In-Reply-To: <20000512085315.B9232@jedi.wbnet> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 12 May 2000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > UP1000 owners wake up! > > The folks at Alpha-processor sent me an email indicating that there > is a beta-SRM version available for the UP1000. I don't have an UP1000 > but those of you who do might want to give this a try: > > http://www.alpha-processor.com/products/downloads/customer_support/UP1000/ > > cheers, Mmmm. Sounds like its time write chipset support for irongate. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 20 8442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 12 5: 8:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from gw.one.com.au (gw.one.com.au [203.18.85.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7324937B638 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 05:08:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from raymond@one.com.au) Received: from one.com.au (pmo.local [10.18.85.2]) by gw.one.com.au (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id WAA07241 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Fri, 12 May 2000 22:07:51 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from raymond@one.com.au) Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 22:07:51 +1000 (EST) From: User Raymond Message-Id: <200005121207.WAA07241@gw.one.com.au> Subject: More on AS200 won't install Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Yet one more bloody time... > Continuing the saga... > > > Same thing happens when booting from Walnut Creek 4.0-RELEASE CDROM > > and from kern & mfsroot floppies made from that CD. > > > > I also tried booting CD #2 and using kernel.GENERIC - this actually > > got to the stage of telling me that it couldn't find its root > > on da0 when it should have been looking at cd0. I got that up > > using the srm -fl cd9660:cd0a switch but this wouldn't work > > with CD #1 and I've no idea of the device name for mfsroot. > > I have just tried: > > 1. Booting V3.4 (downloaded) still says "can't find init" > 2. Booting V3.2 (floppies from CD dist) ditto > > THEN, I tried booting the V4.0 CD with ALL other SCSI devices > disconnected - and it worked (came up with the install menu). > Note: It was DKA100 - RZ26, DKA200 - RZ28 and DKA300 - CD. > and I have tried it with the CD at DKA0. > > BUT that's not much use as (at that point) I don't have any disk > to install it on (and hot plugging doesn't work). > > Does this provoke and suggestions? If I disable automatic spin-up on the disks: srm sees them the kernel probe sees them but the bloody install says I have no disks!!! If I enable automatic spin-up on the disks: the stupid install looses its init!!! What is the next thing to try? Ray Newman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 12 5:51:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from burka.carrier.kiev.ua (burka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.193.193.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A8837BA3A for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 05:51:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from netch@lucky.net) Received: from netch@localhost by burka.carrier.kiev.ua id PDX18730 for freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 12 May 2000 15:10:06 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from netch) Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 15:10:06 +0300 From: Valentin Nechayev To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to fix unaligned access errors? Message-ID: <20000512151005.A938@lucky.net> Reply-To: netch@lucky.net References: <20000510135444.A65751@fettuccini.unix-ag.uni-kl.de> <14617.21495.418598.708837@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <14617.21495.418598.708837@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Wed, May 10, 2000 at 08:21:50AM -0400 X-42: On Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wed, May 10, 2000 at 08:21:50, gallatin wrote about "Re: How to fix unaligned access errors?": > > You start a program, the kernel throws a million "unaligned access" > > errors. > > > > How do you go about finding and fixing those in the source? > > > > See uac(1) > > In the parent shell, say "uac -s" This will cause a SIGBUS to be sent > to any children of this shell when they generate an unaligned access. > You should now be able to debug it. netch@aleph:~/tmp/4>cat 4.cc #include #include char buf[10]; int main() { std::cout << "Enter text:" << flush; return 0; } netch@aleph:~/tmp/4>gcc -o 4 -g 4.cc -lstdc++ netch@aleph:~/tmp/4>( uac -s && ./4 ) parent printing is on parent fixup is on parent sigbus is on pid 14086 (4): unaligned access: va=0x1600b9564 pc=0x160020af4 ra=0x160020c60 op =ldq netch@aleph:~/tmp/4>gdb 4 4.core GNU gdb 4.18 Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "alpha-unknown-freebsd"... Core was generated by `4'. Program terminated with signal 10, Bus error. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.3...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libc.so.4...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/libm.so.2...done. Reading symbols from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1...done. #0 0x160020af4 in debug_printf () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 (gdb) bt #0 0x160020af4 in debug_printf () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #1 0x160020c60 in reloc_non_plt () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 Cannot access memory at address 0xfffffffffffffffd. (gdb) q netch@aleph:~/tmp/4>gcc -v Using builtin specs. gcc version 2.95.2 19991024 (release) netch@aleph:~/tmp/4>uname -mrs FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE alpha World sources date: 2000-05-02. C programs work correctly. -- NVA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 12 6:17:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DD0D37BB33 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 06:17:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p12-dn03kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [210.232.224.141]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN/) with ESMTP id WAA16746; Fri, 12 May 2000 22:17:36 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <391C04CB.27F8B95F@newsguy.com> Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 22:19:07 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Boris Popov Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Loader fixed References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Boris Popov wrote: > > There was a bug introduced by recent commit to the loader. It was > caused by long != int problem. Now it fixed. However loader still has > problem with sizes more 128k? and Peter Wemm has disabled FICL support on > Alphas. If there is a problem with sizes greater than 128Kb, that would certainly explain the problems with FICL. Alas, why do you say that? Have you actually seen any suspect code? As for Peter disabling FICL on Alpha... it was never enabled in first place! -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@tutti.capi.bsdconspiracy.org "I agree whole heartily! Who am I to disagree with a wacko like you?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 12 6:27:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51E0B37BA3A for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 06:27:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20520; Fri, 12 May 2000 09:27:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id JAA88453; Fri, 12 May 2000 09:27:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 09:27:43 -0400 (EDT) To: netch@lucky.net Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to fix unaligned access errors? In-Reply-To: <20000512151005.A938@lucky.net> References: <20000510135444.A65751@fettuccini.unix-ag.uni-kl.de> <14617.21495.418598.708837@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20000512151005.A938@lucky.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14620.1708.186830.217566@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A workaround is to link c++ programs statically. Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 12 6:34:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from server.baldwin.cx (jobaldwi.campus.vt.edu [198.82.67.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 229BE37BD7B; Fri, 12 May 2000 06:34:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from john.baldwin.cx (john [10.0.0.2]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA10067; Fri, 12 May 2000 09:34:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-Id: <200005121334.JAA10067@server.baldwin.cx> X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <391C04CB.27F8B95F@newsguy.com> Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 09:34:43 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Subject: Re: Loader fixed Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org, Boris Popov , peter@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 12-May-00 Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > Boris Popov wrote: >> >> There was a bug introduced by recent commit to the loader. It was >> caused by long != int problem. Now it fixed. However loader still has >> problem with sizes more 128k? and Peter Wemm has disabled FICL support on >> Alphas. > > If there is a problem with sizes greater than 128Kb, that would > certainly explain the problems with FICL. Alas, why do you say that? > Have you actually seen any suspect code? > > As for Peter disabling FICL on Alpha... it was never enabled in first > place! It was enabled. However, the problem is not 128k. The loader from 4.0 worked fine and it was this size: -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 182680 Mar 20 16:36 /boot/loader.works Here's a broken one: -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 186648 May 11 11:48 /boot/loader.old If we do a little hex work: > printf "%x %x" 182680 186648 2c998 2d918 Thus, one possiblity for the upper limit on size may be: > printf "%d" 0x2d000 184320 -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.cslab.vt.edu/~jobaldwi/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 12 6:41:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from gw.one.com.au (gw.one.com.au [203.18.85.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEE0B37BD9C for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 06:40:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from raymond@one.com.au) Received: from one.com.au (pmo.local [10.18.85.2]) by gw.one.com.au (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id XAA07379 for freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 12 May 2000 23:40:47 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from raymond@one.com.au) Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 23:40:47 +1000 (EST) From: User Raymond Message-Id: <200005121340.XAA07379@gw.one.com.au> Subject: RE: More on AS200 won't install Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Dave Haney said: > >If I disable automatic spin-up on the disks: > > > > srm sees them > > the kernel probe sees them > > but the bloody install says I have no disks!!! > > > >If I enable automatic spin-up on the disks: > > > > the stupid install looses its init!!! > > > >What is the next thing to try? > > > > > > >Ray Newman > > > > I had something like this happin on my AS200. My problem was FreeBSD didn't > like > the fact there was still a linux partition table, and filesystems on the > disk. > It caused init to die each time the disk was probed. I eventually fixed it > by putting the disk in another machine, and doing a "dd" from /dev/zero on > it. > > Other than that, if the disk is not internal, you *really* need to be > careful about proper SCSI cables and termination. > The disk was last used as a VAX VMS disk. I tried a couple of hours ago to fix by using linux (which installs and runs fine on this machine) to put partitions (linux) on it. Didn't make any difference. Unfortunately I can't put it in another machine - I haven't got one. All disks are internal. Ray Newman To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 12 8:49:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.butya.kz (butya-gw.butya.kz [212.154.129.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F67437B54E; Fri, 12 May 2000 08:49:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bp@butya.kz) Received: from bp (helo=localhost) by relay.butya.kz with local-esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 12qHgm-000H5Z-00; Fri, 12 May 2000 22:49:20 +0700 Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 22:49:20 +0700 (ALMST) From: Boris Popov To: John Baldwin Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org, peter@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Loader fixed In-Reply-To: <200005121334.JAA10067@server.baldwin.cx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 12 May 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > Here's a broken one: > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 186648 May 11 11:48 /boot/loader.old > > If we do a little hex work: > > > printf "%x %x" 182680 186648 > 2c998 2d918 I have zero knowledge about Alpha architecture and may be completely wrong, but: Loader load address defined as: SECONDARY_LOAD_ADDRESS= 0x2000c000 # "Region 1 start" + 48k As I can see from sources, at the boot moment here is only one page of 256K dedicated to loader, so: 256*1024 - 0xc000 - 0x2d918 = 26344 A loader binary doesn't contain BSS segment which consists of stack (8KB) and uninitialized data. It is quite possible, that together with BSS data, total loader size exceeds 256k limit (and/or overlaps with heap which may explain mysterious zfree() error). -- Boris Popov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 12 13:31: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (peter1.yahoo.com [208.48.107.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7161337B595; Fri, 12 May 2000 13:31:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EC601CE1; Fri, 12 May 2000 13:31:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: John Baldwin Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org, Boris Popov Subject: Re: Loader fixed In-Reply-To: Message from John Baldwin of "Fri, 12 May 2000 09:34:43 EDT." <200005121334.JAA10067@server.baldwin.cx> Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 13:31:02 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20000512203102.3EC601CE1@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Baldwin wrote: > > On 12-May-00 Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > > Boris Popov wrote: > >> > >> There was a bug introduced by recent commit to the loader. It was > >> caused by long != int problem. Now it fixed. However loader still has > >> problem with sizes more 128k? and Peter Wemm has disabled FICL support on > >> Alphas. > > > > If there is a problem with sizes greater than 128Kb, that would > > certainly explain the problems with FICL. Alas, why do you say that? > > Have you actually seen any suspect code? > > > > As for Peter disabling FICL on Alpha... it was never enabled in first > > place! > > It was enabled. However, the problem is not 128k. The loader from 4.0 > worked fine and it was this size: No, it was not enabled, because it would not work on the Alpha. It crashed mysteriously and randomly in impossible places. Inserting debugging printf()'s changed the location it died. It linked into the binary to make sure the code didn't suffer from new bitrot - but the actual call to initialize ficl was not called. I changed the alpha build to not even link libficl.a and interp_forth.c into the loader. Inserting debugging printf's changed the location that FICL failed for inexplicable reasons. Boris's code changed the size of the core loader, and the "mystery" corruption moved elsewhere and affected something outside FICL this time and caused the zfree problem. I fully suspect that there is nothing wrong with FICL at all, just that the code is too big and we cannot fit it all into the same executable space. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 12 13:33:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (peter1.yahoo.com [208.48.107.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A78037B63C for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 13:33:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45BFD1CE1; Fri, 12 May 2000 13:33:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: Boris Popov , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Loader fixed In-Reply-To: Message from "Daniel C. Sobral" of "Fri, 12 May 2000 22:19:07 +0900." <391C04CB.27F8B95F@newsguy.com> Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 13:33:46 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20000512203346.45BFD1CE1@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: > Boris Popov wrote: > > > > There was a bug introduced by recent commit to the loader. It was > > caused by long != int problem. Now it fixed. However loader still has > > problem with sizes more 128k? and Peter Wemm has disabled FICL support on > > Alphas. > > If there is a problem with sizes greater than 128Kb, that would > certainly explain the problems with FICL. Alas, why do you say that? > Have you actually seen any suspect code? It was my idea. FICL didn't work in loader, but did as a user process. Therefore it was the loader environment causing FICL failures. Changing the loader by putting in debug printf's made FICL fail differently. > As for Peter disabling FICL on Alpha... it was never enabled in first > place! Ahem! < # $FreeBSD: src/sys/boot/alpha/common/Makefile.common,v 1.5 2000/05/06 18:31:26 msmith Exp $ --- > # $FreeBSD: src/sys/boot/alpha/common/Makefile.common,v 1.6 2000/05/12 07:47:47 peter Exp $ 14,21c14,21 < BOOT_FORTH= yes < CFLAGS+= -I${.CURDIR}/../../ficl -I${.CURDIR}/../../ficl/alpha < #CFLAGS+= -DBOOT_FORTH < .if exists(${.OBJDIR}/../../ficl/libficl.a) < LIBFICL= ${.OBJDIR}/../../ficl/libficl.a < .else < LIBFICL= ${.CURDIR}/../../ficl/libficl.a < .endif --- > #BOOT_FORTH= yes > #CFLAGS+= -I${.CURDIR}/../../ficl -I${.CURDIR}/../../ficl/alpha > ##CFLAGS+= -DBOOT_FORTH > #.if exists(${.OBJDIR}/../../ficl/libficl.a) > #LIBFICL= ${.OBJDIR}/../../ficl/libficl.a > #.else > #LIBFICL= ${.CURDIR}/../../ficl/libficl.a > #.endif It was most certainly being compiled in, which affected the size of the loader. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 12 15:52:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (peter1.yahoo.com [208.48.107.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5216237BC2F for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 15:52:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id E91171CE2 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 15:52:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 15:52:43 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Subject: HEADS UP: loader and libstand caution required. Message-Id: <20000512225243.E91171CE2@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ------- Blind-Carbon-Copy X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: current@freebsd.org Subject: HEADS UP: loader and libstand caution required. Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 15:52:43 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Please be sure that you build and install libstand before building a loader! (or use buildworld, that should work) FICL is now active on the Alpha, and actually seems to work. The Alpha problems have been solved - it was an alignment issue of the end of code. Adding/removing code would make it fault. I am not sure if the x86 loader will be affected by a mismatch, but I would not like to bet on it. Be safe and make sure it is not linked against a stale libstand. :-) Cheers, - -Peter - ------- Forwarded Message Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 15:45:16 -0700 From: Peter Wemm To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/boot/alpha/common Makefile.common peter 2000/05/12 15:45:16 PDT Modified files: sys/boot/alpha/common Makefile.common Log: Reactivate the FICL hooks to make it be compiled in, but also initialize FICL. bootforth is now live on the Alpha! **BEWARE** - you *MUST* build and install a current libstand or you will most likely get zfree() panics at loader startup. We should now be able to set up the loader.conf stuff on the Alpha too. Revision Changes Path 1.7 +9 -9 src/sys/boot/alpha/common/Makefile.common - ------- End of Forwarded Message ------- End of Blind-Carbon-Copy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 12 16: 1:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (peter1.yahoo.com [208.48.107.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3CBB737B5B3 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 16:01:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB80E1CE1; Fri, 12 May 2000 16:01:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: Boris Popov , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Loader fixed In-Reply-To: Message from "Daniel C. Sobral" of "Fri, 12 May 2000 22:19:07 +0900." <391C04CB.27F8B95F@newsguy.com> Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 16:01:25 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20000512230125.BB80E1CE1@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Daniel C. Sobral" wrote: > Boris Popov wrote: > > > > There was a bug introduced by recent commit to the loader. It was > > caused by long != int problem. Now it fixed. However loader still has > > problem with sizes more 128k? and Peter Wemm has disabled FICL support on > > Alphas. > > If there is a problem with sizes greater than 128Kb, that would > certainly explain the problems with FICL. Alas, why do you say that? > Have you actually seen any suspect code? In this case, it was setheap((void *)end, (void *)0x20080000); that was breaking. If 'end' was not 16 byte aligned, zfree() would panic. On the x86, if 'end' was not 8 byte aligned, zfree would panic there too. > As for Peter disabling FICL on Alpha... it was never enabled in first > place! I've reactivated it and added the initialize call - the problem that broke libficl in the first place was that it was using fp regs in the generated code. I had to add -mno-fp-regs to the libficl build for the Alpha and now it works. Now to install loader.conf etc. :-) Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 12 16: 4:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (peter1.yahoo.com [208.48.107.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E0AA37B5B3; Fri, 12 May 2000 16:04:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F491CE1; Fri, 12 May 2000 16:04:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Boris Popov Cc: John Baldwin , "Daniel C. Sobral" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Loader fixed In-Reply-To: Message from Boris Popov of "Fri, 12 May 2000 22:49:20 +0700." Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 16:04:26 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20000512230426.89F491CE1@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Boris Popov wrote: > On Fri, 12 May 2000, John Baldwin wrote: > > > Here's a broken one: > > > > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 186648 May 11 11:48 /boot/loader.old > > > > If we do a little hex work: > > > > > printf "%x %x" 182680 186648 > > 2c998 2d918 > > I have zero knowledge about Alpha architecture and may be > completely wrong, but: > > Loader load address defined as: > > SECONDARY_LOAD_ADDRESS= 0x2000c000 # "Region 1 start" + 48k > > As I can see from sources, at the boot moment here is only one > page of 256K dedicated to loader, so: > > 256*1024 - 0xc000 - 0x2d918 = 26344 > > A loader binary doesn't contain BSS segment which consists of > stack (8KB) and uninitialized data. > > It is quite possible, that together with BSS data, total loader size > exceeds 256k limit (and/or overlaps with heap which may explain > mysterious zfree() error). For what it's worth, we have to load /boot/loader into a 256k-48k (208k) space. We have presently got 13.5K of free space for loader to squeeze into. We have ~8.5K of free space for boot1. We might have to move the expand_heap() code from loader into boot1 to get more breathing room for when loader gets longer next time. expand_heap() might fit into the 8.5k, *but* it would require everybody to reinstall their bootblocks or loader will no longer work if it's expecting the bootblocks to do the dirty work for it. Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 12 16:33: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (peter1.yahoo.com [208.48.107.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8870F37B764 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 16:33:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63E761CE1 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 16:33:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: HEADS UP: bootforth and loader.conf etc now active! Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 16:33:02 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20000512233302.63E761CE1@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Next time you do a buildworld (or a build/install of libstand and sys/ boot), you will get an active bootforth setup. It will use loader.conf etc. So, if you have an old (formerly unused) loader.conf laying around, beware.. Cheers, -Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 12 17:31:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.primenet.com (smtp02.primenet.com [206.165.6.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6EDD37BCE2 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 17:31:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr02.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp02.primenet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA23739; Fri, 12 May 2000 17:31:02 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr02.primenet.com(206.165.6.202) via SMTP by smtp02.primenet.com, id smtpdAAAFJaGuU; Fri May 12 17:30:55 2000 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr02.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id RAA24348; Fri, 12 May 2000 17:31:24 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <200005130031.RAA24348@usr02.primenet.com> Subject: Re: 3300/3305 and 5300/5305 Problems To: gallatin@cs.duke.edu (Andrew Gallatin) Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 00:31:23 +0000 (GMT) Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, bbump@mail.enetis.net (Brett Bump) In-Reply-To: <14618.47069.139786.832053@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> from "Andrew Gallatin" at May 11, 2000 09:40:53 AM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Andrew Gallatin writes: > > > > Brett Bump writes: > > > > > > Um...does this look like what I think it looks like? > > > > To me it looks like something that makes sense! I remember hearing > > that the whitebox numbers were negative.. Try this: > > For anybody else following this saga, my patch fixed Brett's problem. > I've committed the fix (obtained from NetBSD, btw) to current (rev > 1.80) and stable (1.68.2.4). So the next snapshot should be > installable on this type of alpha. You should just AND off the high bit, instead... Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 12 21:30:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2D037B834 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 21:30:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (p48-dn01kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [211.0.245.49]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN/) with ESMTP id NAA22332; Sat, 13 May 2000 13:29:56 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <391CDA9F.FE9D5746@newsguy.com> Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 13:31:27 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Peter Wemm Cc: Boris Popov , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Loader fixed References: <20000512230125.BB80E1CE1@overcee.netplex.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Peter Wemm wrote: > > I've reactivated it and added the initialize call - the problem that broke > libficl in the first place was that it was using fp regs in the generated > code. I had to add -mno-fp-regs to the libficl build for the Alpha and now > it works. Was it??? I wonder why... we had to remove any fp feature from loader so it would work on i386. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@tutti.capi.bsdconspiracy.org "I agree whole heartily! Who am I to disagree with a wacko like you?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 12 23: 8:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E3FC37B957 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 23:08:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA08916; Sat, 13 May 2000 02:08:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id CAA91836; Sat, 13 May 2000 02:08:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 02:08:32 -0400 (EDT) To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Loader fixed In-Reply-To: <391CDA9F.FE9D5746@newsguy.com> References: <20000512230125.BB80E1CE1@overcee.netplex.com.au> <391CDA9F.FE9D5746@newsguy.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14620.61617.657781.403879@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Daniel C. Sobral writes: > Peter Wemm wrote: > > > > I've reactivated it and added the initialize call - the problem that broke > > libficl in the first place was that it was using fp regs in the generated > > code. I had to add -mno-fp-regs to the libficl build for the Alpha and now > > it works. > > Was it??? I wonder why... we had to remove any fp feature from loader so > it would work on i386. Gcc tends to use the alpha floating point registers like any other general purpose register unless you add -mno-fp-regs to the arg list. That's why -mno-fp-regs is in the kernel compile. Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 12 23:51: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (adsl-63-202-176-114.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.176.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 207C037B957 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 23:51:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA01282; Fri, 12 May 2000 23:51:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200005130651.XAA01282@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: wc.bulte@chello.nl Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: beta SRM code for UP1000 alpha machine In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 12 May 2000 08:53:15 +0200." <20000512085315.B9232@jedi.wbnet> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 23:51:30 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > UP1000 owners wake up! > > The folks at Alpha-processor sent me an email indicating that there > is a beta-SRM version available for the UP1000. I don't have an UP1000 > but those of you who do might want to give this a try: > > http://www.alpha-processor.com/products/downloads/customer_support/UP1000/ FreeBSD Test Labs is attempting to obtain at least one of these systems from API or an interested donor in order to enable us to port to the UP1000. We have an experienced platform porter (Andrew Gallatin) waiting in the wings to take this on; all we need is the hardware. If you're interested in lending or donating a system, or if you think that you might be able to help us convice API that having FreeBSD support this platform would be a worthwhile goal, please let me know. Regards, -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 12 23:55:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.cdrom.com (adsl-63-202-176-114.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.202.176.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B23E937B957 for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 23:55:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Received: from mass.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA01305; Fri, 12 May 2000 23:56:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.cdrom.com) Message-Id: <200005130656.XAA01305@mass.cdrom.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Doug Rabson Cc: wc.bulte@chello.nl, FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: beta SRM code for UP1000 alpha machine In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 12 May 2000 11:09:58 BST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 23:56:06 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > http://www.alpha-processor.com/products/downloads/customer_support/UP1000/ > > > > cheers, > > Mmmm. Sounds like its time write chipset support for irongate. Heh. AMD 751. Should be fairly easy; it works OK in my K7 box. 8) -- \\ Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. \\ Mike Smith \\ Tell him he should learn how to fish himself, \\ msmith@freebsd.org \\ and he'll hate you for a lifetime. \\ msmith@cdrom.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat May 13 2:36:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26FE137B5CD for ; Sat, 13 May 2000 02:36:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Received: from nlsys.demon.co.uk ([158.152.125.33] helo=herring.nlsystems.com) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 12qYLb-0008Vr-0U; Sat, 13 May 2000 10:36:35 +0100 Received: from salmon.nlsystems.com (salmon.nlsystems.com [10.0.0.3]) by herring.nlsystems.com (8.9.3/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA42797; Sat, 13 May 2000 10:40:29 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from dfr@nlsystems.com) Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 10:41:01 +0100 (BST) From: Doug Rabson To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: Peter Wemm , Boris Popov , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Loader fixed In-Reply-To: <391CDA9F.FE9D5746@newsguy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 13 May 2000, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > Peter Wemm wrote: > > > > I've reactivated it and added the initialize call - the problem that broke > > libficl in the first place was that it was using fp regs in the generated > > code. I had to add -mno-fp-regs to the libficl build for the Alpha and now > > it works. > > Was it??? I wonder why... we had to remove any fp feature from loader so > it would work on i386. The compile tends to use FP registers as scratch storage for e.g. memory-memory moves. -- Doug Rabson Mail: dfr@nlsystems.com Nonlinear Systems Ltd. Phone: +44 20 8442 9037 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat May 13 3:56:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay02.chello.nl (relay02.chello.nl [212.83.68.146]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 848C137B71F; Sat, 13 May 2000 03:56:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@chello.nl) Received: from chello.nl ([213.46.78.184]) by relay02.chello.nl (InterMail vK.4.02.00.00 201-232-116 license 2ee4e7c625482f2f2a1950a80f6c8d58) with ESMTP id <20000513105645.ELZE11294.relay02@chello.nl>; Sat, 13 May 2000 12:56:45 +0200 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by chello.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA19470; Sat, 13 May 2000 12:56:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 12:56:53 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Mike Smith Cc: wc.bulte@chello.nl, FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Re: beta SRM code for UP1000 alpha machine Message-ID: <20000513125653.A19400@jedi.wbnet> Reply-To: wc.bulte@chello.nl References: <20000512085315.B9232@jedi.wbnet> <200005130651.XAA01282@mass.cdrom.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200005130651.XAA01282@mass.cdrom.com>; from msmith@freebsd.org on Fri, May 12, 2000 at 11:51:30PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, May 12, 2000 at 11:51:30PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > > UP1000 owners wake up! > > > > The folks at Alpha-processor sent me an email indicating that there > > is a beta-SRM version available for the UP1000. I don't have an UP1000 > > but those of you who do might want to give this a try: > > > > http://www.alpha-processor.com/products/downloads/customer_support/UP1000/ > > FreeBSD Test Labs is attempting to obtain at least one of these systems > from API or an interested donor in order to enable us to port to the > UP1000. > > We have an experienced platform porter (Andrew Gallatin) waiting in the > wings to take this on; all we need is the hardware. > > If you're interested in lending or donating a system, or if you think I assume you don't mean me, I don't work for API ;-) -- Wilko Bulte FreeBSD, the power to serve http://www.freebsd.org http://www.tcja.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat May 13 21:50:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net (ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net [198.36.160.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DD1C037BCB8 for ; Sat, 13 May 2000 21:50:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bwoods2@uswest.net) Received: (qmail 15601 invoked by alias); 14 May 2000 04:50:22 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org@fixme Received: (qmail 15596 invoked by uid 0); 14 May 2000 04:50:22 -0000 Received: from alpha.uswest.net (63.227.213.92) by ptldpop1.ptld.uswest.net with SMTP; 14 May 2000 04:50:22 -0000 Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 21:51:54 -0700 (PDT) From: William Woods Reply-To: bwoods2@uswest.net To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Kernel compile dies... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ------------------------------------------------------------------ Compiling a kernel on a DEC Alpha FreeBSD alpha.uswest.net 4.0-STABLE FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #0: Mon May 8 07:20:45 PDT 2000, the make world went fine, but trying ot compile a kernel I get: cc -c -O -pipe -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -nostdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mno-fp-regs -Wa,-mev56 ../../kern/kern_random.c ../../kern/kern_random.c:241: conflicting types for `add_interrupt_randomness' ../../sys/random.h:73: previous declaration of `add_interrupt_randomness' ../../kern/kern_random.c: In function `add_interrupt_randomness': ../../kern/kern_random.c:245: warning: passing arg 1 of pointer to function makes integer from pointer without a cast *** Error code 1 Thanks. ------------------------------------------------------------------ NOTICE TO BULK E-MAILERS: Pursuant to US Code, Title 47, Chapter 5, Subchapter II, 227, and all unsolicited commercial e-mail sent to this address is subject to a download and archival fee in the amount of $500 US To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message