From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Aug 7 10: 7:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3619137BC88 for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 10:07:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from craig-burgess@home.net) Received: from home.net ([24.0.178.21]) by femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000807170730.JGJW8825.femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.net> for ; Mon, 7 Aug 2000 10:07:30 -0700 Message-ID: <398EED47.BA82D659@home.net> Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2000 10:09:27 -0700 From: Craig Burgess X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Subject: Problems & Discoveries (5-current) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A couple of weeks ago I thought I broke the installation, but it ended up only very bent. Starting with 5-current from April I did cvsup for new source and discovered the new scheme and syntax for devices. Unfortunately for me, I didn't notice the new kernel line 'hints' and the kernel built without it would panic at boot for no system clock. Now, in retrospect I can see that it would have been a whole lot easier to copy GENERIC and adjust the copy, but I already had a functional kernel configuration file, I thought. Since I hadn't discovered that I needed to add one brief line to the kernel config file I tried to cvsup src for 4 which only made matters worse, so back to 5 and then I discovered that the kernel would build and boot when configuration file properly referenced the 'hints' file. Unfortunately the resulting mess would boot, but things were badly bent; e.g., the machine would hang at 'synching disks...' at any kind of graceful shutdown or restart of the system. There were other anomalies, too, which isn't suprising. I decided that the best thing to do was get rid of the whole mess and start over. I made two discoveries about building the boot floppies: a "quick format" (DOS) of a diskette which previously contained a boot image appears to work, but the result of using fdimage to write to the diskette does not result in a useable diskette. I also discovered that a very HOT floppy drive does not write a good image in any case ... The 5-current boot images appear to absolutely require ad0 or they do not work -- panic when the device is not found. I was able to get the 4.1-release images to work and the system is back performing most of the things it did before but with much more grace. One of these days I may try to cvsup -current but now I know that the syntax of the kernel configuration will be different. ===================== EB164 Digital AlphaPC 164 500 MHz, 500MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=7 minor=2 extensions=0x1 OSF PAL rev: 0x1000800020117 real memory = 265904128 (259672K bytes) avail memory = 252829696 (246904K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc000064c000. md0: Malloc disk cia0: ALCOR/ALCOR2, pass 3 cia0: extended capabilities: 21 pcib0: <2117x PCI host bus adapter> on cia0 pci0: on pcib0 xl0: <3Com 3c905-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0x10180-0x101bf irq 2 at device 5.0 on pci0 xl0: interrupting at CIA irq 2 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:60:08:19:48:35 miibus0: on xl0 nsphy0: on miibus0 nsphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto pci0: <3D Labs model 0009 graphics accelerator> at 6.0 irq 0 xl1: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0x10100-0x1017f mem 0x830a0100-0x830a017f irq 1 at device 7.0 on pci0 xl1: interrupting at CIA irq 1 xl1: Ethernet address: 00:10:4b:9c:da:ee miibus1: on xl1 xlphy0: <3Com internal media interface> on miibus1 xlphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto isab0: at device 8.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 ncr0: port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x830a0000-0x830a00ff irq 3 at device 9.0 on pci0 ncr0: interrupting at CIA irq 3 ncr0: driver is using old-style compatability shims atapci0: port 0x101c0-0x101cf irq 5 at device 11.0 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: interrupting at ISA irq 6 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd0: interrupting at ISA irq 1 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: interrupting at ISA irq 12 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> mcclock0: at port 0x70-0x71 on isa0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: interrupting at ISA irq 4 sio1: reserved for low-level i/o ppc0: at port 0x3bc-0x3bf irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppi0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Polled port plip0: cannot reserve interrupt, failed. ppc0: interrupting at ISA irq 7 Timecounter "alpha" frequency 499998180 Hz IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, default to deny, logging disabled ata0-slave: identify retries exceeded ad0: 2441MB [4960/16/63] at ata0-master using WDMA2 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0a cd0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 5 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 3.300MB/s transfers cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present da0 at ncr0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 20.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8748MB (17916240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1115C) -------------- craig -- ... mind like a steel trap: things wander in and get mangled ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 9 1:21:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.research.kpn.com (hermes.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D815E37B6F8 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 01:21:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from K.J.Koster@kpn.com) Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by research.kpn.com (PMDF V5.2-31 #42699) with ESMTP id <01JSRH0EOWVW0007K3@research.kpn.com> for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 10:21:53 +0200 Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 09 Aug 2000 10:21:52 +0100 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 10:21:52 +0100 From: "Koster, K.J." Subject: rstatd gives weird network results To: 'FreeBSD Alpha mailing list' Message-id: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D7769@l04.research.kpn.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Alpha hackers, I use rstatd to keel track of the liveliness of my local boxes. However, when I run it on my Alpha, I get weird results for network I/O counts. CPU, swap and page and disk seem fine. Anyone seen this? Kees Jan ================================================= TV is the worst of both worlds. It's not as good at words as radio is because the pictures are a distraction which demand attention, and it's not as good as cinema because the pictures are not nearly as good. [Douglas Adams] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 9 1:23:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.research.kpn.com (hermes.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB22637B6F8 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 01:23:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from K.J.Koster@kpn.com) Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by research.kpn.com (PMDF V5.2-31 #42699) with ESMTP id <01JSRH2UISN40007DJ@research.kpn.com> for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 10:23:51 +0200 Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 09 Aug 2000 10:23:50 +0100 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 10:23:48 +0100 From: "Koster, K.J." Subject: RE: fxp0 hangs my AXPpci33 To: 'FreeBSD Alpha mailing list' Message-id: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D776A@l04.research.kpn.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear All, Better late than never. I have tried to replace the DELAY(1)'s in the drver code with DELAY(10), but that makes no difference, unfortunately. The only way my NIC works is with Andrew's patch. Hope this helps. Kees Jan ================================================= TV is the worst of both worlds. It's not as good at words as radio is because the pictures are a distraction which demand attention, and it's not as good as cinema because the pictures are not nearly as good. Douglas Adams To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 9 1:42:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B37137B8F6 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 01:42:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA23698; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 01:42:37 -0700 Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 01:42:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "Koster, K.J." Cc: "'FreeBSD Alpha mailing list'" Subject: RE: fxp0 hangs my AXPpci33 In-Reply-To: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D776A@l04.research.kpn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, that's good feedback, thanks! On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, Koster, K.J. wrote: > Dear All, > > Better late than never. I have tried to replace the DELAY(1)'s in the drver > code with DELAY(10), but that makes no difference, unfortunately. The only > way my NIC works is with Andrew's patch. > > Hope this helps. > > Kees Jan > > ================================================= > TV is the worst of both worlds. It's not as > good at words as radio is because the pictures > are a distraction which demand attention, and > it's not as good as cinema because the pictures > are not nearly as good. > Douglas Adams > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 9 1:42:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.research.kpn.com (hermes.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D261F37B8F6; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 01:42:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from K.J.Koster@kpn.com) Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by research.kpn.com (PMDF V5.2-31 #42699) with ESMTP id <01JSRHQBAWNA0007DJ@research.kpn.com>; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 10:42:46 +0200 Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 09 Aug 2000 10:42:46 +0100 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 10:42:44 +0100 From: "Koster, K.J." Subject: Wanted: DEC Alpha Java porters To: 'FreeBSD Java mailing list' , 'FreeBSD Alpha mailing list' Message-id: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D776B@l04.research.kpn.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear All, I have updated my web pages with build instructions for the native FreeBSD JDK 1.2.2 on DEC Alpha hardware. The build stops because we need some form of sysInvokeNative() function. On the sparc and i386 this function is written in assembler. For the Alpha, this function is not available at this time. It would be quite cool if someone sat down to write this function in DEC Alpha assembler. From what I have seen, it does not look all that difficult, and you'll have a working example in both sparc and i386 assembler. There's also quite a bit of comment on what it should do, so you're not looking at a blurp of incomprehensible (what a word) code. Alternately, it would be nice to have that function in C, which I think should also be doable. This would be especially nice because it makes future moves to other hardware much easier (think NetBSD). It may be too much to ask, but it would great to have both a C version and DEC assembler version. Ah, if wishes were horses... My page is at: http://web.inter.nl.net/users/kjkoster/java/index.html If you get HTTP 403 errors, use the mirror, (thanks to Cliff Rowley): http://java.onsea.com/java/ Either way, click on "build for DEC Alpha" under "Howto's" and off you go! Kees Jan ================================================= TV is the worst of both worlds. It's not as good at words as radio is because the pictures are a distraction which demand attention, and it's not as good as cinema because the pictures are not nearly as good. [Douglas Adams] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 9 7:32:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE49537BD82; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 07:32:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nate@yogotech.com) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA09151; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 08:32:46 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id IAA03538; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 08:32:24 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 08:32:24 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200008091432.IAA03538@nomad.yogotech.com> From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: "Koster, K.J." Cc: "'FreeBSD Java mailing list'" , "'FreeBSD Alpha mailing list'" Subject: Re: Wanted: DEC Alpha Java porters In-Reply-To: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D776B@l04.research.kpn.com> References: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D776B@l04.research.kpn.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.34 under 19.16 "Lille" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > It would be quite cool if someone sat down to write this function in DEC > Alpha assembler. I believe the Linux folks had a start on an Alpha port at some time. Someone might want to contact them and see if they have such a thing. Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 9 8: 0:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from utep.el.utwente.nl (utep.el.utwente.nl [130.89.30.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56EC837BADB; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 08:00:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from A.Dergatchev@tn.utwente.nl) Received: from tn.utwente.nl (uttnb55.tn.utwente.nl [130.89.74.55]) by utep.el.utwente.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA22654; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 17:01:32 +0200 Message-ID: <39917248.6E671787@tn.utwente.nl> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 17:01:28 +0200 From: "Andrei A. Dergatchev" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'FreeBSD Java mailing list'" Cc: "'FreeBSD Alpha mailing list'" Subject: Re: Wanted: DEC Alpha Java porters References: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D776B@l04.research.kpn.com> <200008091432.IAA03538@nomad.yogotech.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Uncle George did all the work for AlphaLinux before Sun dropped his license: http://www.lib.uaa.alaska.edu/axp-list/archive/2000-02/0541.html "I am no longer able to do anything more about my JDK1.2 port to the Dec/alpha computer. This is due mainly to the fact that my license has expired, and Sun et al has thusfar refused to renew, or offer anything in its place. My Last JDK1.2 port was made avail on December 15, 1999. Maybe u can ask The folks at Blackdown, or even the guy who wrote that linux book, when blackdown will support a JDK1.2 for the alpha ( or even a jdk1.1.x for that matter ). I'm sorry I cant be of more assistance, But there is nothing more that I can personally and legally do without the support of the Alpha linux/java community, and that of the ( once vocal, and now placated ) i386/linux/java community. gat " His site might be of some help: http://www.voicenet.com/~gatgul/Java.html Andrei > > It would be quite cool if someone sat down to write this function in DEC > > Alpha assembler. > > I believe the Linux folks had a start on an Alpha port at some time. > Someone might want to contact them and see if they have such a thing. > > Nate > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 9 8:14:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.research.kpn.com (hermes.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 468ED37BE07; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 08:14:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from K.J.Koster@kpn.com) Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by research.kpn.com (PMDF V5.2-31 #42699) with ESMTP id <01JSRVEO9KQ80007YG@research.kpn.com>; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 17:14:15 +0200 Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Wed, 09 Aug 2000 17:14:14 +0100 Content-return: allowed Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 17:14:14 +0100 From: "Koster, K.J." Subject: RE: Wanted: DEC Alpha Java porters To: "'Andrei A. Dergatchev'" Cc: 'FreeBSD Alpha mailing list' , 'FreeBSD Java mailing list' Message-id: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D7780@l04.research.kpn.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Andrei, > > > It would be quite cool if someone sat down to write this > > function in DEC Alpha assembler. > > *snip* > > Uncle George did all the work for AlphaLinux before Sun > dropped his license: > I have already been in contact with Uncle George. Understandably he critical about Sun's position. He would not even consider giving us access to his work before it is 100% clear that Sun is going to back us up all the way. Even if we can prove that, Uncle George has not made any promises. Perhaps he will help us out, perhaps he will not. It is his choice. Thank you for the web references, by the way, I will look into them. Kees Jan ================================================= TV is the worst of both worlds. It's not as good at words as radio is because the pictures are a distraction which demand attention, and it's not as good as cinema because the pictures are not nearly as good. Douglas Adams To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 9 8:45: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from ns.shawneelink.net (ns.shawneelink.net [216.240.66.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F51137BA40 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 08:45:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jb@jbacher.com) Received: from jan (gate05.shawneelink.net [216.240.79.5]) by ns.shawneelink.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id e79Fj0g27339 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 10:45:00 -0500 (CDT) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20000809104722.00b3f7f0@stc.shawneelink.net> X-Sender: jb@mail.jbacher.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2000 10:49:38 -0500 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org From: Jan Bacher Subject: New Installation Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have some PC16LXs running Tru64 and NT that I am going to install with FreeBSD. Which console(s) work with this OS? Tia. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 9 12: 1:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9260D37B58D for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:01:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA26750; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:01:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) id PAA11194; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:01:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:01:14 -0400 (EDT) To: Jan Bacher Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: New Installation In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20000809104722.00b3f7f0@stc.shawneelink.net> References: <4.2.2.20000809104722.00b3f7f0@stc.shawneelink.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.43 under 20.4 "Emerald" XEmacs Lucid Message-ID: <14737.42877.452904.309378@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jan Bacher writes: > I have some PC16LXs running Tru64 and NT that I am going to install with > FreeBSD. > > Which console(s) work with this OS? Anything but a DEC TGA card should work, assuming the SRM console can drive it. Ie, a VGA card or a serial console. There are some newer cards which the SRM console cannot deal with, but since you're running Tru64, this isn't likely to be a problem. Before installing, you may want to read the HARDWARE.TXT file that accompanies the installation. See the alpha-specific section of ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/alpha/4.1-RELEASE/HARDWARE.TXT Cheers, Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 9 12:52:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gplsucks.org (work.gplsucks.org [63.227.213.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719B037BECE for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:52:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bwoods2@uswest.net) Received: from localhost (bwoods2@localhost) by mail.gplsucks.org (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id e79JqZp06349 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:52:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2000 12:52:35 -0700 (PDT) From: William Woods To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Database for FreeBSD Alpha Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone have any ideas when/if the mysql or postgresql7 databases will be buildable on an Alpha from the ports , last I checked they weren't. Bill To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 9 15:21:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au (ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au [129.127.246.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C24737B75B; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 15:21:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glewis@ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au) Received: (from glewis@localhost) by ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id HAA10677; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 07:51:18 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from glewis) From: Greg Lewis Message-Id: <200008092221.HAA10677@ares.trc.adelaide.edu.au> Subject: Re: Wanted: DEC Alpha Java porters In-Reply-To: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D7780@l04.research.kpn.com> from "Koster, K.J." at "Aug 9, 2000 05:14:14 pm" To: "Koster, K.J." Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 07:51:17 +0930 (CST) Cc: "'Andrei A. Dergatchev'" , "'FreeBSD Alpha mailing list'" , "'FreeBSD Java mailing list'" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL70 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Koster, K.J. wrote: > > > It would be quite cool if someone sat down to write this > > > function in DEC Alpha assembler. > > > > *snip* > > > > Uncle George did all the work for AlphaLinux before Sun > > dropped his license: > > > I have already been in contact with Uncle George. Understandably he critical > about Sun's position. He would not even consider giving us access to his > work before it is 100% clear that Sun is going to back us up all the way. > Even if we can prove that, Uncle George has not made any promises. > > Perhaps he will help us out, perhaps he will not. It is his choice. > > Thank you for the web references, by the way, I will look into them. I ferreted around on his web site at one point and managed to find some diffs for jdk 1.2 to get it to work on the Alpha. Unfortunately, these diffs contain changes to the Makefiles like: +ifeq ($(ARCH),alpha) +ARCHNAME = alpha +FILES.s += threadStart_alpha.s read_fpcr.s write_fpcr.s # invokeNative_alpha.s +FILES.s += invokeNative_alpha.s +FILES.c += machgc_nonsparc.c executeJava.c FPE_alpha.c +CFLAGS_COMMON += -mieee +else but do not contain the extra files themselves (e.g. invokeNative_alpha.s). Which is of course the things that we need :(. -- Greg Lewis glewis@trc.adelaide.edu.au Computing Officer +61 8 8303 5083 Teletraffic Research Centre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 9 20: 4:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from thelab.hub.org (nat193.159.mpoweredpc.net [142.177.193.159]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F76B37B595 for ; Wed, 9 Aug 2000 20:04:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) Received: from localhost (scrappy@localhost) by thelab.hub.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA47129; Thu, 10 Aug 2000 00:02:31 -0300 (ADT) (envelope-from scrappy@hub.org) X-Authentication-Warning: thelab.hub.org: scrappy owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2000 00:02:31 -0300 (ADT) From: The Hermit Hacker To: William Woods Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Database for FreeBSD Alpha In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 9 Aug 2000, William Woods wrote: > Does anyone have any ideas when/if the mysql or postgresql7 databases will > be buildable on an Alpha from the ports , last I checked they weren't. I just got an Alpha that I have to install FreeBSD on ... its purpose is to deal with Alpha ports of PostgreSQL and maintain them ... my plan is to sit down with this thing this weekend and see if I can even get it to install :) I'm new at Alpha ... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Aug 11 2:38:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from hermes.research.kpn.com (hermes.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA3137C011; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 02:38:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from K.J.Koster@kpn.com) Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by research.kpn.com (PMDF V5.2-31 #42699) with ESMTP id <01JSUCA20VMS0007HQ@research.kpn.com>; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 11:38:30 +0200 Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 11:38:27 +0100 Content-return: allowed Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 11:38:25 +0100 From: "Koster, K.J." Subject: More on custom invokers for JDK To: 'FreeBSD Java mailing list' , 'FreeBSD Alpha mailing list' Message-id: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D77A2@l04.research.kpn.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear All, I've written up a little on what invokeNative_alpha.s and companions are really for. Critisism (this is a word?) and comments are welcome. http://web.inter.nl.net/users/kjkoster/java/index.html click on "invokeNative_alpha.s" under "Alpha Arch. Build". Mildly interesting look into how Java deals with native functions under water too, and I have again learned a little about C. Kees Jan PS. Sorry for the noise that I'm generating, but I can't help myself. I want this port on Alpha too. :-) ================================================= TV is the worst of both worlds. It's not as good at words as radio is because the pictures are a distraction which demand attention, and it's not as good as cinema because the pictures are not nearly as good. [Douglas Adams] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Aug 11 2:57:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from iclub.nsu.ru (iclub.nsu.ru [193.124.222.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F3FE37C014; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 02:56:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Received: from localhost (fjoe@localhost) by iclub.nsu.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA61134; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 16:55:30 +0700 (NSS) (envelope-from fjoe@iclub.nsu.ru) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 16:55:30 +0700 (NSS) From: Max Khon To: "Koster, K.J." Cc: "'FreeBSD Java mailing list'" , "'FreeBSD Alpha mailing list'" Subject: Re: More on custom invokers for JDK In-Reply-To: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E4522026D77A2@l04.research.kpn.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, there! On Fri, 11 Aug 2000, Koster, K.J. wrote: > I've written up a little on what invokeNative_alpha.s and companions are > really for. Critisism (this is a word?) and comments are welcome. > > http://web.inter.nl.net/users/kjkoster/java/index.html > click on "invokeNative_alpha.s" under "Alpha Arch. Build". > > Mildly interesting look into how Java deals with native functions under > water too, and I have again learned a little about C. gdb has generic function invoker written in C (look into valops.c) /fjoe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Aug 11 5:20: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.ORG [204.216.27.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8381737C0F2 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 05:20:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id FAA67001; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 05:20:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 05:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200008111220.FAA67001@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Cc: From: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: alpha/20248: DEFPA FDDI on alpha panics system Reply-To: Wilko Bulte Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR alpha/20248; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Wilko Bulte To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, wilko@FreeBSD.org Cc: Subject: Re: alpha/20248: DEFPA FDDI on alpha panics system Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 14:15:55 +0200 It appears that the probe on alpha is quite incomplete, judging from the messages the kernel displays on boot: Alpha probe messages: fpa0: port 0x9000-0x907f mem 0x80950000-0x80 95ffff,0x80975000-0x8097507f irq 4 at device 11.0 on pci0 fpa0: interrupting at CIA irq 4 fpa0: driver is using old-style compatability shims Intel probe messages: fpa0: port 0xe400-0xe47f mem 0xfbf90000-0xfbf9ffff,0xfbfaf000-0xfbfaf07f irq 9 at device 9.0 on pci0 fpa0: DEC DEFPA PCI FDDI SAS Controller fpa0: FDDI address 00:00:f8:43:c4:53, FW=3.10, HW=1, SMT V7.2 fpa0: FDDI Port = S (PMD = ANSI Multi-Mode) fpa0: driver is using old-style compatability shims The missing messages are produced by pdq_print_fddi_chars() which is only called by pdq_process_command_responses(). It appears the kernel cannot send commands to the card correctly (and/or receive the commands). This is in line with the fact that ifconfig can UP the interface but never a RING UP condition is detected. -- Wilko Bulte wilko@freebsd.org Arnhem, the Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Aug 11 10: 2:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from viking.sophos.com (viking.sophos.com [194.203.134.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A51F237B55C for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 10:02:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gjvc@sophos.com) Received: from trafalgar.sophos.com (trafalgar.sophos.com [194.203.134.158]) by viking.sophos.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67A0A6C80C for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:02:02 +0100 (BST) Received: by trafalgar.sophos.com (Postfix, from userid 1010) id 687161171C; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:02:06 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:02:06 +0100 From: George Cox To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Digital Server 5000 Message-ID: <20000811180206.A403@trafalgar.sophos.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT (i386) X-EICAR: X5O!P%@AP[4PZX54(P^)7CC)7}$EICAR-STANDARD-ANTIVIRUS-TEST-FILE!+H* X-Sophos: You betcha Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org G'day everyone, I have a Digital Server 5000 here. It's a real beast. It's got a 1GB memory, 2 500 MHz processors, Mylex RAID controller, and shedloads of disc space. I'd like to put FreeBSD on it (obviously) but it would appear that compatibility-wise, the signs are not good. :-( The SRM console says: DIGITAL Server 5000 Model 5305 6533A Console V5.8-2 26-Jul-2000 16:19:04 I have tried booting with a 4.1-RELEASE alpha boot floppy, and it got as far as loading /boot/loader, but got stuck (the spinny thing stopped) while loading the kernel. The boot messages go something like this: block0 of dva.0.0.0.1000.0 bootstrap code read in Building FRU table base=200000, image_start=0, image_bytes=1e00 initializing HWRPB at 2000 initializing pagetable at 1f2000 initializing machine state setting affinity to primary CPU jumping to bootstrap code loading /boot/loader Console: SRM firmware console VMS PAL rev: 0x4000200010115 OSF PAL rev: 0x4000200020117 switch to OSF PAL code succeeded FreeBSD/alpha SRM disk boot, Revision 0.3 (root@beta.osdi.bsdi.com, Thu Jul 27 08:00:34 GMT 2000) Memory: 1048676k / at this point, the spinny thing goes for some time, and then stops spinning. Some time later, the following line is printed, and then nothing further. cb_open: failed DVA 0 1000 0 0 0 8086 0002, dva.0.0.0.1000.0 Is there anything I can do? If this machine can't currently be used for FreeBSD/alpha, is there anything I can do to help out testing stuff? best; gjvc -- George Cox +44 1235 544 127 UNIX evangelist, Sophos Plc, Oxford, England To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Aug 11 18:23:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8941137BAB7 for ; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:23:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@dragon.nuxi.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id SAA39542; Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:23:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2000 18:23:39 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: George Cox Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Digital Server 5000 Message-ID: <20000811182339.A39513@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20000811180206.A403@trafalgar.sophos.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000811180206.A403@trafalgar.sophos.com>; from gjvc@sophos.com on Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 06:02:06PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Aug 11, 2000 at 06:02:06PM +0100, George Cox wrote: > I have tried booting with a 4.1-RELEASE alpha boot floppy, and it got as > far as loading /boot/loader, but got stuck (the spinny thing stopped) > while loading the kernel. This is exactly the same experience one gets trying to install FreeBSD on a 4100. If possible, install FreeBSD on a disk using another Alpha, and transfer the disk back to the 5000. I'm sure it won't just work as we won't identify the machine in the HW dependant bits of /sys/alpha/. BUT you will probably get farther. In a month or so, we could probably get this supported if you are willing to give on of the Alpha developers a serial console on the 5000. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Aug 12 1:33:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mailserv.waikato.ac.nz (mailserv.waikato.ac.nz [130.217.66.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4ED837BC4E for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2000 01:33:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjl12@waikato.ac.nz) Received: from stu_ex3.waikato.ac.nz (stu-ex3.waikato.ac.nz [130.217.70.30]) by mailserv.waikato.ac.nz (8.9.3/8.9.0) with ESMTP id UAA82026 for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2000 20:37:13 +1200 Received: by stu-ex3.waikato.ac.nz with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Sat, 12 Aug 2000 20:33:05 +1200 Message-ID: <45E87454FFC2D211AD9800508B650094BA4E3E@stu-ex1.waikato.ac.nz> From: "MATTHEW JOHN,LUCKIE" To: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: kernel modules/unaligned access fault Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2000 20:32:58 +1200 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi I have created a specialised kernel module for an application i writing that causes an ip packet to be created in kernel-land, timestamped, and then sent. I developed and tested this on a pentium machine, before trying it on a spare alpha that i have turned into a freebsd 4.0-release box for mucking around on. this module is loaded via kldload and called via syscall I am running into problems with the timestamping, whereby i am getting an unaligned access fault panic. I am making a call to getnanotime, with the results getting copied into a bit of data in the mbuf that is offset 48 bytes in the packet Here is the segment of code that is causing the problem: struct pathrecord { struct in_addr ip; /* 4 bytes */ struct timespec ts; /* 8 bytes */ }; in function code: struct timespec ts; struct mbuf *m; struct pathrecord *pr; u_int32_t *ui; m = m_gethdr(M_DONTWAIT, MT_HEADER); m->m_len = 56; m->m_pkthdr.len = m->m_len; m->m_pktdr.rcvif = NULL; [... the ip packet and some other headers are now filled out ...] /* if i take this 3 line block of code out, i dont get the faults */ m->m_data += 40; ui = mtod(m, u_int32_t *); *ui = 0; m->m_data += 4; /* 44 bytes offset */ pr = mtod(m, struct pathrecord *pr); pr->ip = 0; getnanotime(&ts); ts.ts_sec = htonl(ts.ts_sec); ts.ts_nsec = htonl(ts.ts_nsec); pr->ts = ts; /* crashes in this line, 44 bytes offset from m_data */ and here is the fault dumped from the operating system fatal kernel trap: trap entry = 0x4 (unaligned access fault) a0 = 0xfffffe0000617e64 a1 = 0x2d a2 = 0x1 pc = 0xfffffe0000a5ad6c ra = 0xfffffe0000a5ad5c curproc = 0xfffffe0007bb50c0 pid = 197, comm = test panic: trap i know this is because i am not working with the alpha cpu how i should be, but i dont really know what the story is with offsetting on non - 8bit boundaries. What should I do to correct my bug? i also know this is not the most efficient use of coding - i should just be working with data in the mbuf and not copying the timespec structure in, but i was just wanting to narrow the bug right down. Any suggestions will be welcome Thanks Matthew Luckie mjl12@waikato.ac.nz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Aug 12 21:28:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from sh001.infi.net (sh001.infi.net [206.153.62.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3BB437B5AC for ; Sat, 12 Aug 2000 21:28:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sneedy@infi.net) Received: from sh001.infi.net (sh001.infi.net [206.153.62.17]) by sh001.infi.net (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id AAA29484 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 00:28:07 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 00:28:06 -0400 (EDT) From: Scot Needy To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: keyboard problems on Alpha 400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi; Please let me know if this is the wrong list.. The install went OK but I seem to have a common problem after setting console graphics. My keyboard stops working after booting, setting console to serial is OK. After searching the list archives I came across this posting related to the TGA cards. "FreeBSD doesn't currently support the TGA card " """""" http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=4707+8124+/usr/local/www/db/text/1999/freebsd-alpha/19990801.freebsd-alpha """""" If this is true are there any issues with the XFree_86 on Alpha using a Matrox MGA 4Mb Video card? Thanks Scot __________________________________________ Scot Needy InfiNet Systems Engineering sneedy@infi.net ( 757 ) 664-2217 ------------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message