From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 24 5:56:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1A1D37B43F; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 05:56:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from alex@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id FAA38878; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 05:56:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 05:56:26 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200009241256.FAA38878@freefall.freebsd.org> To: bs001@marlow.net.triplan.com, alex@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/21325: typo in german handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: typo in german handbook State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: alex State-Changed-When: Sun Sep 24 05:55:45 PDT 2000 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=21325 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 24 6:16:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF3737B424; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 06:16:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from alex@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id GAA45240; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 06:16:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 06:16:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200009241316.GAA45240@freefall.freebsd.org> To: un1i@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de, alex@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, alex@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/21254: [PATCH] In install/chapter.sgml, explain FTP'ing via HTTP proxy Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: [PATCH] In install/chapter.sgml, explain FTP'ing via HTTP proxy State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: alex State-Changed-When: Sun Sep 24 06:07:35 PDT 2000 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->alex Responsible-Changed-By: alex Responsible-Changed-When: Sun Sep 24 06:07:35 PDT 2000 Responsible-Changed-Why: Mine http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=21254 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 24 7:57:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955DD37B424; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 07:57:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fmrl01.sul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 13dDDk-0004Tf-00; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 16:57:36 +0200 Received: from neutron.cichlids.com (520050424122-0001@[62.158.38.14]) by fmrl01.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 13dDDe-1lfDHcC; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 16:57:30 +0200 Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 415F9AB91; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 16:57:58 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cichlids.cichlids.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8A83614ACF; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 16:57:30 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 16:57:30 +0200 To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports/20647: make install in doc sources fails Message-ID: <20000924165730.A13778@cichlids.cichlids.com> References: <200009171728.KAA21280@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200009171728.KAA21280@freefall.freebsd.org>; from ade@FreeBSD.ORG on Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 10:28:50AM -0700 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. From: alex@big.endian.de (Alexander Langer) X-Sender: 520050424122-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I can't reproduce the problem. Can anyone else? Alex -- cat: /home/alex/.sig: No such file or directory To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 24 8: 0: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8341237B424 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 08:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id IAA66225; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 08:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 08:00:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200009241500.IAA66225@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: alex@big.endian.de (Alexander Langer) Subject: Re: ports/20647: make install in doc sources fails Reply-To: alex@big.endian.de (Alexander Langer) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR ports/20647; it has been noted by GNATS. From: alex@big.endian.de (Alexander Langer) To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports/20647: make install in doc sources fails Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 16:57:30 +0200 I can't reproduce the problem. Can anyone else? Alex -- cat: /home/alex/.sig: No such file or directory To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 24 12:12:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9C4037B42C for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 12:12:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04916; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 12:12:35 -0700 Message-ID: <39CE5223.C6B0689D@urx.com> Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 12:12:35 -0700 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Alexander Langer Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ports/20647: make install in doc sources fails References: <200009241500.IAA66225@freefall.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alexander Langer wrote: > > The following reply was made to PR ports/20647; it has been noted by GNATS. > > From: alex@big.endian.de (Alexander Langer) > To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org > Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: ports/20647: make install in doc sources fails > Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 16:57:30 +0200 > > I can't reproduce the problem. > > Can anyone else? I had never made and installed the de_DE... handbook. I tried a make from the directory, which worked, and it also installed. I think that error goes back to when the de_DE docs were first being added. I seem to remember trying to do a /usr/doc make and saw that error. It wouldn't surprise me if your 18 Aug changes fixed the problem. I didn't try it for a couple of days or a week and it would build then. FWIW, I figure it was similar to trying to do a make of docs for the last two days. There was some thrashing going on but you can build the en docs now. Kent > > Alex > > -- > cat: /home/alex/.sig: No such file or directory > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 24 12:47: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B61937B424; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 12:47:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parish ([62.255.97.241]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000924194659.CZCD13676.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@parish>; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 20:46:59 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e8OJl1o01409; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 20:47:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 20:47:00 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Francisco Reyes Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to change man pages? Message-ID: <20000924204700.C255@parish> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from lists@reyes.somos.net on Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 01:40:40PM -0400 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [moved to -doc] On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 01:40:40PM -0400, Francisco Reyes wrote: > I would like to do some work on a couple of man pages. Good man :) > From what I read this is not part of the Doc project. Oh yes they are > Are man pages submited on send-pr? Yes > Any tutotials/programs recommended to work on man pages? ``man mdoc.samples'' is what I use. > I looked at /usr/share/man and found the pages, but after decompressing > the .gz file I don't know what format the files are on mdoc (a macro package for nroff(1)) > and if there is an editor for such format. > vi(1), or emacs(1) which has an [nt]roff mode which understands the macros (and has colour syntax highlighting which may help). > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 24 12:49:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9DB937B424 for ; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 12:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parish ([62.255.97.241]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000924194950.CZLS13676.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@parish>; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 20:49:50 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e8OJnq101462; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 20:49:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 20:49:51 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Francisco Reyes Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to change man pages? Message-ID: <20000924204951.D255@parish> References: <20000924204700.C255@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000924204700.C255@parish>; from marko@freebsd.org on Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 08:47:00PM +0100 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 08:47:00PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > [moved to -doc] > > On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 01:40:40PM -0400, Francisco Reyes wrote: > > I would like to do some work on a couple of man pages. > > Good man :) > > > From what I read this is not part of the Doc project. > > Oh yes they are > [Follow-up to my own reply] I should qualify that statement by adding that we do not touch the manpages for contributed software (/usr/src/contrib), e.g. the GNU stuff. > > Are man pages submited on send-pr? > > Yes > > > Any tutotials/programs recommended to work on man pages? > > ``man mdoc.samples'' is what I use. > > > I looked at /usr/share/man and found the pages, but after decompressing > > the .gz file I don't know what format the files are on > > mdoc (a macro package for nroff(1)) > > > and if there is an editor for such format. > > > > vi(1), or emacs(1) which has an [nt]roff mode which understands the macros > (and has colour syntax highlighting which may help). > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > -- > 4.4 - The number of the Beastie > ________________________________________________________________ > 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org > 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark > mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com > -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Sep 24 13:15:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3120437B422; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 13:15:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from alex@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA28870; Sun, 24 Sep 2000 13:15:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 24 Sep 2000 13:15:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200009242015.NAA28870@freefall.freebsd.org> To: khera@kciLink.com, alex@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ports/20647: make install in doc sources fails Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: make install in doc sources fails State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: alex State-Changed-When: Sun Sep 24 12:42:59 PDT 2000 State-Changed-Why: Should be fixed in the meanwhile. At least I cannot reproduce it and other people confirmed, that it works for them, too. 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 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 25 1:54:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [194.128.198.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F17137B43E; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 01:54:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e8P8HcQ52165; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 09:17:38 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 09:17:38 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Ben Smithurst Cc: Szilveszter Adam , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, marko@freebsd.org, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FAQ is broken... Message-ID: <20000925091737.A52100@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000922224828.A28248@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> <20000923004138.V30774@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000923004138.V30774@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk>; from ben@FreeBSD.org on Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 12:41:38AM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 12:41:38AM +0100, Ben Smithurst wrote: > Szilveszter Adam wrote: > > DIMM individually and narrow the problem down to either the problematic > > - DIMM/SIMM or perhaps even a combination. > > + DIMM/SIMM or perhaps even a combination. > > > > Fixed, thanks. > > By the way, Nik, "make lint" didn't seem to catch this error. Is there > anything you/we can do about that? Yeah. The nsgmls command line in the lint target wasn't using the same list of catalogs that Jade was using when building the docs. Now fixed. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 25 1:54:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [194.128.198.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40A8837B443 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 01:54:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e8MMt5000808; Fri, 22 Sep 2000 23:55:05 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 23:55:05 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "Jason C. Wells" Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Search Engine For Site Message-ID: <20000922235505.A765@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jcwells@nwlink.com on Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 04:16:45PM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Sep 12, 2000 at 04:16:45PM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: > There is some discussion going on about the website's search capability. > Is the documentation project interested in discussing changing the search > engine? Yes. Off the top of my head, I'd like any replacement to be (a) Properly documented, so that it's easy for the admins and mirrors to keep track of what it's doing. (b) Follow common conventions for specifying search times. Personally, I think that means that the default should be to match any of the terms, preferring documents in the results set that contain more of the terms. Making multiple terms mandatory should be specified with either "and" between the terms, or specifying a term with a leading '+'. (c) Long literal terms should be allowed, allowing people to easily enter in error messages. (d) Matches in the results should be highlighted. (e) The search engine should be available in the ports collection. (f) It should be possible to specify the ordering of results (number of matching keywords, date, file size, ...) Thoughts? N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 25 2: 9:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [194.128.198.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C444A37B42C; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 02:09:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e8P97UK53157; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:07:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:07:29 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Mark Ovens Cc: Francisco Reyes , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to change man pages? Message-ID: <20000925100729.B52100@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000924204700.C255@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000924204700.C255@parish>; from marko@freebsd.org on Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 08:47:00PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Sep 24, 2000 at 08:47:00PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > > Any tutotials/programs recommended to work on man pages? > > ``man mdoc.samples'' is what I use. There's gmanedit in the ports tree (and http://gmanedit.sourceforge.net/). It requires all the GNOME stuff, and I've never used it, but people might find it useful. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 25 5: 5:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from matrix.loopback.org (matrix.loopback.org [195.247.213.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4310637B424 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 05:05:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from henning@localhost) by matrix.loopback.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA14525 for doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:05:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from henning) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:05:30 +0200 From: Henning Sprang To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: [stolz@I2.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE: Re: installation via http proxy] Message-ID: <20000925140530.A14408@matrix.loopback.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hy, maybe that should go into the "errata" part of the release 4.1 documentation: ----- Forwarded message from Volker Stolz ----- Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:57:36 +0200 From: Volker Stolz To: Henning Sprang Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installation via http proxy User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000925043735.A7681@matrix.loopback.org>; from henning.sprang@netropol.de on Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 04:37:35AM +0200 Organization: Chair for CS II, Anomalous Programming On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 04:37:35AM +0200, Henning Sprang wrote: > when trying to install 4.1-RELEASE via a http proxy, using exactly the > solution provided in http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/install-guide.html, > 2.2.1.6.2 my system always crashes right after choosing the download site. > I try to use install type 3b HTTP Proxy. > The Sytem goes down , showing the URL of my download site iin a grey frame, > saying > "Fatal Error: Null name or value passed to set_variable2! - PRESS ANY KEY TO REBOOT" This option in sysinstall is *BROKEN*. -- Volker Stolz * stolz@i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de * PGP + S/MIME ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Henning Sprang Netropol Digitale Systeme Lagerstrasse 30a Tel: +49 40 43250000 D-20357 Hamburg Fax: +49 40 43189490 henning@Netropol.DE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 25 7:29:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from yertle.kciLink.com (yertle.kciLink.com [205.252.34.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41E7F37B424; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 07:29:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from onceler.kciLink.com (onceler.kciLink.com [205.252.34.3]) by yertle.kciLink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878582E444; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:29:11 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from khera@localhost) by onceler.kciLink.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e8PETBF67894; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:29:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from khera) From: Vivek Khera MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14799.24887.351602.629473@onceler.kciLink.com> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:29:11 -0400 (EDT) To: Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ports/20647: make install in doc sources fails In-Reply-To: <200009242015.NAA28870@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200009242015.NAA28870@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 11) "Carlsbad Caverns" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>>> "a" == alex writes: a> Synopsis: make install in doc sources fails a> State-Changed-From-To: open->closed a> State-Changed-By: alex a> State-Changed-When: Sun Sep 24 12:42:59 PDT 2000 a> State-Changed-Why: a> Should be fixed in the meanwhile. a> At least I cannot reproduce it and other people confirmed, that a> it works for them, too. a> Thanks for the PR. a> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=20647 It seems to have corrected itself on the next day or two. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 25 8: 1:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [194.128.198.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9939037B42C for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 08:01:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e8PEwRc22859 for doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:58:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:58:13 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Images in docs on their way. . . Message-ID: <20000925155811.A22824@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chaps, That was a busy weekend. I'm a step closer to having images work as I want, but it's not quite there yet. If you look at http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook/200009/msg00034.html you'll see my most recent message to the DocBook mailing list, trying to resolve a problem I'm having. In particular: +-------+ | A | +-------+ This will become the ALT text in the HTML is pretty much what I expect people will have to write in order to get images in to the docs. In your Makefile you would write: IMAGES= fig1.svg and let the Makefile take care of converting the .svg file in to .eps or .png depending on your output format. By the way, that example is listed from a conversion I'm doing of http://www.daemonnews.org/200001/freebsd_vm.html. Those of you that are concerned that supporting images means that text only browsers are left in the dark need not fear -- ASCII art will still be able to thrive under the new regime. I've got some patches to doc/share/{mk,sgml} that aren't even alpha quality yet if people want to look at them. Depending on spare time I might get to commit all this before BSDCon. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 25 8:40: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CCF237B42C for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 08:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id IAA61311; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 08:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id DAEB337B424; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 08:39:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20000925153939.DAEB337B424@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 08:39:39 -0700 (PDT) From: drj@zoonami.com To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/21539: Installing ports from the Internet through a firewall, handbook 4.2.1.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 21539 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Installing ports from the Internet through a firewall, handbook 4.2.1.2 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Sep 25 08:40:01 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: David Jones >Release: 3.3-RELEASE though I doubt it matters >Organization: >Environment: >Description: Section 4.2.1.2 of the handbook does not mention that things can go wrong if you have a firewall installed. Some firewalls (such as ours) prevent normal ftp from working. You get error messages like: >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: You can solve this by specifying pftp (passive ftp) as the fetch command. On the command line: FETCH_CMD=pftp make or editing /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: >> tcsh-6.09.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist on this system. >> Attempting to fetch from ftp://ftp.astron.com/pub/tcsh/. Connected to galaxy.astron.com. [stuff] 230 Guest login ok, access restrictions apply. Remote system type is UNIX. Using binary mode to transfer files. 200 Type set to I. 250 CWD command successful. [stuff] 200 PORT command successful. 425 Can't build data connection: Operation timed out. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 25 9:13: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bbnrel4.net.external.hp.com (bbnrel4.net.external.hp.com [155.208.254.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B04F37B422; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 09:12:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hpcpbla.bri.hp.com (hpcpbla.bri.hp.com [15.144.112.65]) by bbnrel4.net.external.hp.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B032916D4B; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:12:55 +0200 (METDST) Received: from sse0691.bri.hp.com (sse0691.bri.hp.com [15.144.0.53]) by hpcpbla.bri.hp.com (8.9.3 (PHNE_18979)/8.9.3 SMKit7.0) with ESMTP id RAA19813; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:12:55 +0100 (BST) Received: (from steve@localhost) by sse0691.bri.hp.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA64971; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:16:11 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:16:11 +0100 From: Steve Roome To: Mark Ovens Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FAQ is broken... Message-ID: <20000925171611.G8111@moose.bri.hp.com> References: <20000922224828.A28248@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> <20000923013141.A257@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <20000923013141.A257@parish>; from marko@FreeBSD.ORG on Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 01:31:42AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 01:31:42AM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > On Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 10:48:28PM +0200, Szilveszter Adam wrote: > > Hi everybody! > > > > The FAQ is now broken due to a recent commit by Mark Ovens (he has been CC-d > > on this). > > > > Arghh! Mea culpa. I spotted that too. I patched and re-built my local copy > of the FAQ (and even e-mailed the originator) but managed to commit the > broken patch. Nope, Mea culpa. I've no idea what I was on when I was writing some of that. Aside from the missing it's, at least partly, a grammatical disaster! I'm working on it again and I'll send a patch, a clean one once I'm done. [Honestly, this won't be half as bad as the last one, and I actually intend to check it properly this time!] Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 25 10: 3:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.nwlink.com (smtp.nwlink.com [209.20.130.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B01137B424; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from utah (jcwells@utah.nwlink.com [209.20.130.41]) by smtp.nwlink.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA13135; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:03:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:16:14 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jcwells@utah To: Nik Clayton Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Search Engine For Site In-Reply-To: <20000922235505.A765@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 22 Sep 2000, Nik Clayton wrote: > Thoughts? My thoughts are now that I have heard some interest (espy from Mr Clayton) I will dig a little deeper into the subject matter and come back with a response. I invite any others watching this thread to open up the dicussion if you have anything to add. Thank you, Jason C. Wells To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 25 10: 5:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (mta03-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9729B37B424 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 10:05:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parish ([62.253.89.13]) by mta03-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000925170536.HUAW13676.mta03-svc.ntlworld.com@parish>; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:05:36 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e8PH5jP04075; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:05:45 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 18:05:45 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Steve Roome Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FAQ is broken... Message-ID: <20000925180544.I252@parish> References: <20000922224828.A28248@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> <20000923013141.A257@parish> <20000925171611.G8111@moose.bri.hp.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000925171611.G8111@moose.bri.hp.com>; from steve@sse0691.bri.hp.com on Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 05:16:11PM +0100 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 05:16:11PM +0100, Steve Roome wrote: > On Sat, Sep 23, 2000 at 01:31:42AM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 22, 2000 at 10:48:28PM +0200, Szilveszter Adam wrote: > > > Hi everybody! > > > > > > The FAQ is now broken due to a recent commit by Mark Ovens (he has been CC-d > > > on this). > > > > > > > Arghh! Mea culpa. I spotted that too. I patched and re-built my local copy > > of the FAQ (and even e-mailed the originator) but managed to commit the > > broken patch. > > Nope, Mea culpa. I've no idea what I was on when I was writing some of > that. Aside from the missing > No, it's my fault (but lets not come to blows over it, eh? :)). As the committer it is my responsibility to make sure that anything I commit works. I was careless, I scp(1)'d the diff to freefall whilst I was building my local copy. When that failed, I fixed it locally, created a new diff, re-built my local copy (which then worked), but forgot to scp(1) the new diff. > it's, at least partly, a grammatical disaster! I've just re-read it and it's not that bad. The information is there and understandable, which is the most important thing. > I'm working on it again and I'll send a patch, a clean one once I'm > done. [Honestly, this won't be half as bad as the last one, and I > actually intend to check it properly this time!] > OK, if you send the patch to me I'll commit it (after going over it with a fine-toothed comb :) ). > Steve -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 25 11: 1: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3190137B43F for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA05329 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:00:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:00:20 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200009251800.LAA05329@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2000/07/23] docs/20117 doc *printf manpage doesn't document %n 2 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/09/25] docs/13950 doc webpage idea o [1999/09/25] docs/13967 doc FreeBSD Related Publications in Korea o [1999/10/06] docs/14158 doc md5(1) manpage should not claim the md5 a o [1999/10/27] docs/14565 doc ioctl() codes for device type `fd' (flopp o [2000/02/20] docs/16843 doc Knob for release/Makefile to prevent dele o [2000/03/18] docs/17470 doc Missing man page: pthread_yield f [2000/03/20] docs/17521 doc Proposed FAQ on assembly programming o [2000/03/25] docs/17598 doc installworld over NFS documentation no lo o [2000/04/03] kern/17774 doc stray irq7 o [2000/05/03] docs/18379 doc Information on SSH hard to find in Handbo o [2000/05/19] docs/18674 doc ntptime.htm and ntptime.8 o [2000/06/05] docs/19010 doc Bad144 obsoletion by 4.0 is undocumented; o [2000/06/23] docs/19481 doc Serial Communications chapter in Handbook o [2000/07/10] docs/19818 doc /usr/share/man/man8/sysinstall.8 missing o [2000/07/17] docs/19981 doc Indonesian translations o [2000/07/17] docs/19995 doc keymap(5) missing from manual in 3.4-RELE o [2000/07/20] docs/20067 doc src/sbin/nologin/nologin.5 is bad place o [2000/07/30] docs/20298 doc man 5 keymap missing in 4.1 (Stable) o [2000/08/02] docs/20369 doc [patch] mountd.8 missing cross-references o [2000/08/04] docs/20400 doc Building a kernel with debugging info sec o [2000/08/06] docs/20447 doc forcing NFS exports to be updated o [2000/08/07] docs/20477 doc Document syslogd's special treatment of k o [2000/08/10] docs/20528 doc sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix. o [2000/08/20] docs/20738 doc correction and modification to clocks(7) o [2000/08/23] docs/20794 doc Request 2 good documents under people.fre o [2000/09/05] docs/21057 doc Little correction of hier(8) o [2000/09/25] docs/21539 doc Installing ports from the Internet throug 29 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 25 11:12:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sanson.reyes.somos.net (freyes.static.inch.com [216.223.199.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 831F837B50B; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:10:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zoraida.reyes.somos.net (zoraida.reyes.somos.net [10.0.0.15]) by sanson.reyes.somos.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA80401; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:01:45 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from fran@reyes.somos.net) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:14:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Francisco Reyes To: Mark Ovens Cc: Francisco Reyes , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to change man pages? In-Reply-To: <20000924204700.C255@parish> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 24 Sep 2000, Mark Ovens wrote: > > From what I read this is not part of the Doc project. > > Oh yes they are Is this mentioned anywhere? I did not see anything on the doc project pages. Also it would be helpfull to have some info or pointers about how one goes about working with man pages. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 25 11:50:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490C937B43C for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA19698; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from monkeys.com (236.dsl9226.rcsis.com [63.92.26.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDBAE37B424 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:43:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from rfg@localhost) by monkeys.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA10409; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200009251843.LAA10409@monkeys.com> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 11:43:53 -0700 (PDT) From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Reply-To: rfg@monkeys.com (Ronald F. Guilmette) To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/21542: sigaction(2) man page is misleading Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 21542 >Category: docs >Synopsis: sigaction(2) man page is misleading >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Sep 25 11:50:01 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Ronald F. Guilmette >Release: FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE i386 >Organization: Infinite Monkeys & Co. >Environment: >Description: The sigaction(2) man page is misleading with regards to the current (new) definition of the `struct sigaction' type. That type is now defined as: struct sigaction { union { void (*__sa_handler) __P((int)); void (*__sa_sigaction) __P((int, struct __siginfo *, void *)); } __sigaction_u; /* signal handler */ int sa_flags; /* see signal options below */ sigset_t sa_mask; /* signal mask to apply */ }; But the definition given in the sigaction(2) man page leads one to believe that the following might be valid C code: struct sigaction thing = { handler, 0, 0 }; but if you do that, with -Wall, gcc complains about a missing set of curly braces. >How-To-Repeat: See above. >Fix: Just say what the POSIX standard says, i.e. ``The `struct sigaction' type contains at least the following members...'' Just say that on the man page, rather than attempting to actually show (inaccurately) the definition of the sigaction structure. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 25 12:36:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from matrix.loopback.org (matrix.loopback.org [195.247.213.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2EC337B422 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 12:36:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from henning@localhost) by matrix.loopback.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA19471 for doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:36:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from henning) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 21:36:21 +0200 From: Henning Sprang To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: [stolz@I2.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE: Re: installation via http proxy] Message-ID: <20000925213621.G14408@matrix.loopback.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org maybe interesting, too for others who want to install freebsd 4.1 via http proxy: ----- Forwarded message from Volker Stolz ----- Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:58:06 +0200 From: Volker Stolz To: Henning Sprang Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stolz@I2.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE Subject: Re: installation via http proxy User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000925141032.B14408@matrix.loopback.org>; from henning.sprang@netropol.de on Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 02:10:32PM +0200 Organization: Chair for CS II, Anomalous Programming On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 02:10:32PM +0200, Henning Sprang wrote: > does that mean i will not be able to do an install via http proxy (here squid) like > described in the install documenation? > When choosing one of the other ftp methods i get errors, too. > if it is still possible - how? IIRC someone suggested using sysinstall from 4.0-RELEASE. Be sure to change the requested version from 4.0 to 4.1 in the media-prefs, though. You might want to search the mailinglist archives for more possible solutions. -- Volker Stolz * stolz@i2.informatik.rwth-aachen.de * PGP + S/MIME ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Henning Sprang Netropol Digitale Systeme Lagerstrasse 30a Tel: +49 40 43250000 D-20357 Hamburg Fax: +49 40 43189490 henning@Netropol.DE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 25 15:21: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA5F137B422; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 15:20:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id AAA17592; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 00:20:58 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id XAA02670; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 23:36:09 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 23:36:09 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: freebsd-jobs@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: [python@kepnet.com: Hello! I would like to create a jobs board section for FreeBSD.org] Message-ID: <20000925233609.A2649@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> Reply-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Forwarded message from Mark Nielsen ----- Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 14:05:38 -0400 From: Mark Nielsen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12-32 i686) To: wosch@FreeBSD.org Subject: Hello! I would like to create a jobs board section for FreeBSD.org Hello! I am a Linux and FreeBSD user. I know the FreeBSD guys and Linux guys don't like each other, but I like both Linux and FreeBSD. I am developing a website called GNUJobs.com and also another called TCUJobs.com. Again, the GNU people and BSD people don't get along. Well I like both groups. Anyways, I would like to create a jobs board for you guys for free and anybody posting jobs with FreeBSD in it can do so for free. I don't know if GNUJobs.com or TCUJobs.com should host it, TCUJobs.com would be safer. In any event, I think the best solution would be to use your headers and footers around my webpages so that people can flip back and forth and won't see a difference. Something like, freebsd.tcujobs.org or tcujobs.freebsd.org would be cool. Bottom line, I would like to develop a jobsboard that is easy to use and easy to administrate and adds to your website, and to make it all free for people posting or searching for jobs. I didn't see it on your website if you had a jobs board. Let me know how I can help or who is the correct person to talk to to help you guys develop a jobs board! I am open to all suggestions, and would like to manage your job board. It said in the list that you are the webmaster, so I figured you would be the best person to talk you! Thanks! Mark ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 25 17:45:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F29937B422 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:45:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8Q0jQU37937 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:45:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com) To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Argh, somebody broke docproj and hence make release! Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 17:45:26 -0700 Message-ID: <37933.969929126@winston.osd.bsdi.com> From: Jordan Hubbard Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ===> Cleaning for dsssl-docbook-modular-1.57 ===> Cleaning for html-4.0b ===> Cleaning for iso8879-1986 ===> Cleaning for jade-1.2.1 ===> Cleaning for linuxdoc-1.1 ===> Cleaning for sgmlformat-1.7 ===> Cleaning for tidy-20000804 ===> Cleaning for w3m-0.1.11.p ===> Cleaning for docproj-1.1 make: don't know how to make all. Stop *** Error code 2 4.1.1 is going to have to go out with the doc distribution from 4.1-RELEASE as a result. :( - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Sep 25 19:50: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0F237B424 for ; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 19:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA07530; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 19:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 272E537B424; Mon, 25 Sep 2000 19:49:51 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <20000926024951.272E537B424@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 19:49:51 -0700 (PDT) From: masaki@jbm-net.or.jp To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/21550: Some documents on Softupdates are not yet changed for 3.5.1-RELEASE Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 21550 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Some documents on Softupdates are not yet changed for 3.5.1-RELEASE >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Sep 25 19:50:01 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: NOHTOMI, Masaki >Release: 3.5.1-RELEASE >Organization: JBM Corporation >Environment: FreeBSD asakaze.jbm-net.or.jp 3.5.1-RELEASE FreeBSD 3.5.1-RELEASE #0: Tue Sep 26 10:36:00 JST 2000 masaki@asakaze.jbm-net.or.jp:/usr/src/sys/compile/Asakaze i386 >Description: Softupdates' source directory /usr/src/sys/contrib/softupdates has been moved to /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs, but the two documents is not yet renewed for the change. /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/LINT /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/README.softupdates >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Ignore the following instruction on README.softupdates --quote-- cd /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs ln -s ../../contrib/softupdates/*.[ch] . --unquote-- >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 26 1:11:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.ZSEA.zp.ua (ZSEA.zp.ua [212.8.40.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5E4537B43E for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 01:11:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from laa@localhost) by mx1.ZSEA.zp.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA44223 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:11:32 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from laa@laa.zp.ua) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:11:32 +0300 From: "Alexandr A. Listopad" To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/zip-drive/index.html need to update! Message-ID: <20000926111132.B44141@laa.zp.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi http://www.freebsd.org/tutorials/zip-drive/index.html looks like for RELENG_3 compatible, not for RELENG_4, because there are wd0.. and so on, please, update this tutorial! Thanks -- Laa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 26 2: 2:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE7E37B424 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 02:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e8Q91P102777; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:01:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:01:25 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Argh, somebody broke docproj and hence make release! Message-ID: <20000926100125.A1381@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <37933.969929126@winston.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <37933.969929126@winston.osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com on Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 05:45:26PM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 05:45:26PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > ===> Cleaning for dsssl-docbook-modular-1.57 > ===> Cleaning for html-4.0b > ===> Cleaning for iso8879-1986 > ===> Cleaning for jade-1.2.1 > ===> Cleaning for linuxdoc-1.1 > ===> Cleaning for sgmlformat-1.7 > ===> Cleaning for tidy-20000804 > ===> Cleaning for w3m-0.1.11.p > ===> Cleaning for docproj-1.1 > make: don't know how to make all. Stop > *** Error code 2 Que? Which version of docproj/Makefile do you have, and is it sync with ports/Mk? I just tried exactly the same thing; ===> Cleaning for html-4.0b ===> Cleaning for iso8879-1986 ===> Cleaning for jade-1.2.1 ===> Cleaning for linuxdoc-1.1 ===> Cleaning for sgmlformat-1.7 ===> Cleaning for tidy-20000804 ===> Cleaning for w3m-0.1.11.p ===> Cleaning for docproj-1.1 [canyon] /usr/ports/textproc/docproj# make all ===> Extracting for docproj-1.1 >> No MD5 checksum file. ===> Patching for docproj-1.1 ===> Configuring for docproj-1.1 which is exactly as expected. I just updated my ports tree and reran it and there are no problems. Which machine are building this on? N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 26 3:45:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5408737B42C for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 03:45:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parish ([62.255.96.79]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000926104538.SSJO19246.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@parish> for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:45:38 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e8QAjfa01253 for doc@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:45:41 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 11:45:40 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Major work on the FAQ in progress Message-ID: <20000926114540.A252@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am currently in the process of re-formatting the entire FAQ so that the mark-up conforms to the FDP (Translation Teams: these are whitespace changes only). Even though I am committing the changes one chapter at a time they are still large commits (the first was ~2000 lines) and it will potentially cause me problems if other changes are made whilst this work is on-going (and your own patches may not apply). Because of this I would appreciate it if everyone would delay making any commits until I have finished, which I hope to be within the next 24 hours. I will post to -doc when the work is complete. Thank you for your co-operation. -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 26 4:33: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ice.cream.org (ice.cream.org [195.8.71.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CC30437B443 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 04:32:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 8723 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2000 10:54:02 -0000 Received: from ice.cream.org (HELO cream.org) (195.8.71.30) by ice.cream.org with SMTP; 26 Sep 2000 10:54:02 -0000 Content-Length: 1404 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200009211227.IAA42894@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 12:32:49 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Boothman To: mi@aldan.algebra.com Subject: Re: erlang port -- a poster child (Re: I'll be rolling a 4.1.1 r Cc: kris@FreeBSD.ORG, olgeni@uli.it, ruslan@shevchenko.kiev.ua, seb@bluetail.com, ade@FreeBSD.ORG, ports@FreeBSD.ORG, nbm@mithrandr.moria.org, doc@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG, jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com, chad@DCFinc.com Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 21-Sep-00 mi@aldan.algebra.com wrote: > On 21 Sep, Andrew Boothman wrote: > = On 21-Sep-00 Chad R. Larson wrote: > = >> =* If you are the MAINTAINER of a piece of code (or more likely a > = >> =port) and don't have commit privs, put "MAINTAINER update" in the > = >> =synopsis, for the same reasons as before. > = > I too am a bit worried. Are we saying that one of the ports > = > committers doesn't expect to do that job unless certain keywords are > = > in the PR? If so, that should be documented other than in e-mail > = > here. > = > = Not really, see Kris Kennaway's reply. > = > = I will write this up for the Handbook once we've decided on the > = wording though. > > Please, consider new PR-class(es) (port-update, port-maintainer) for > this -- that's much more formal, easier to search for and more obvious > for a person filling it the PR out. One person so far agreed and no one > objected... Right, I've left this several days to see if any GNATS-guru might appear and give us an opinion on getting some new PR classes added, because I know absolutely nothing about it. Nobody's come forward, so if no-one has any complaints, I'll write up a patch for the handbook to tell people to use the SYNOPSIS line, at least as a temporary improvement to the current situation. Any other comments? --- Andrew Boothman http://sour.cream.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 26 8:27:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dutton3.it.siu.edu (dutton3.it.siu.edu [131.230.6.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1531437B43C for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 08:27:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from siu.edu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dutton3.it.siu.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3/8.9.3.1) with ESMTP id KAA75831 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:27:21 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <39D0C059.A62A28CF@siu.edu> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:27:21 -0500 From: Jim Dutton X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Online Ports doc/Upgrade Kits -> "ports/MK" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please change the text reference to "ports/MK" into an active link to the appropriate FTP directory. This will make installing and upgrading Mk files much, much easier. Thank you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 26 13:45:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (sol.cc.u-szeged.hu [160.114.8.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05F4537B42C for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 13:45:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (8.9.3+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id WAA14598; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 22:45:25 +0200 (MEST) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13e1as-0001lq-00 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 22:44:50 +0200 Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 22:44:50 +0200 From: Szilveszter Adam To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: MINI kernel config for recovery floppy in Handbook Message-ID: <20000926224450.B6384@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii User-Agent: Mutt/1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello everybody! I have been alerted to a problematic spot in the Handbook: In Section 11.3.8.1 (In Chapter Backup, Section Backup Programs, Emergency Recovery Procedure) there is a sample kernel config file MINI, which should be used to build a custom recovery floppy. The prob is, this config file is 3.x format but there is no language to warn users about this. I do not know what we should do. Maybe just warn the ppl that they should change the config and give them hints for that, or should we also include a 4.x version of the config file? In any case, I would volunteer to do the work, once we agree on something... BTW I am going to file a PR RSN for the Hungarian CVSup server to be included in the Handbook, because I noticed we were not there:-) -- Regards: Szilveszter ADAM Szeged University Szeged Hungary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 26 14: 7: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0722337B424; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:07:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8QL6wU80848; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:06:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com) To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Argh, somebody broke docproj and hence make release! In-Reply-To: Message from Nik Clayton of "Tue, 26 Sep 2000 10:01:25 BST." <20000926100125.A1381@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:06:58 -0700 Message-ID: <80844.970002418@winston.osd.bsdi.com> From: Jordan Hubbard Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 05:45:26PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > ===> Cleaning for dsssl-docbook-modular-1.57 > > ===> Cleaning for html-4.0b > > ===> Cleaning for iso8879-1986 > > ===> Cleaning for jade-1.2.1 > > ===> Cleaning for linuxdoc-1.1 > > ===> Cleaning for sgmlformat-1.7 > > ===> Cleaning for tidy-20000804 > > ===> Cleaning for w3m-0.1.11.p > > ===> Cleaning for docproj-1.1 > > make: don't know how to make all. Stop > > *** Error code 2 > > Que? Which version of docproj/Makefile do you have, and is it sync with > ports/Mk? This is all from a fresh check-out of ports and doc - the FreeBSD release build process always works from a sanitized chroot tree and fresh sources, so if it blows up there it's not from a syncronization error. > I just tried exactly the same thing; I beg to differ. You tried it from a non-sanitized, non-chroot tree and that works just fine for me too. Now try it from a make release and you'll have done "exactly the same thing" :-) > Which machine are building this on? I've reproduced this on several machines already, so it's certainly not the environment (I run parallel release builds for various reasons). Thanks. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 26 14:50:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC87F37B42C for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id OAA80029; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (sol.cc.u-szeged.hu [160.114.8.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F45E37B423 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 14:41:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from petra.hos.u-szeged.hu by sol.cc.u-szeged.hu (8.9.3+Sun/SMI-SVR4) id XAA17213; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 23:41:33 +0200 (MEST) Received: from sziszi by petra.hos.u-szeged.hu with local (Exim 3.12 #1 (Debian)) id 13e2TB-0001xu-00 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 23:40:57 +0200 Message-Id: <20000926234057.C6384@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 23:40:57 +0200 From: Szilveszter Adam To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: docs/21569: Add Hungarian CVSup server to the Handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 21569 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Add Hungarian CVSup server to the Handbook >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Sep 26 14:50:01 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Szilveszter Adam >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: Szeged University, Eotvos Lorand Dormitory >Environment: Again, my desk, with lots of undone homework:-) >Description: Next in the series "Hungarian Days in FreeBSD": Please add the Hungarian CVSup server (cvsup.hu.freebsd.org) to the appropriate section of the Handbook, because, uhm, it is not there yet:-) This way Hungarian users will be able to find a location near them for keeping their sources in sync, which is near them. >How-To-Repeat: 1.) Open the Handbook 2.) Look for the Hungarian CVSup mirror. 3.) Be surprised because it is not there, although you have just used it:-) >Fix: Apply this patch in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml: --- /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml.orig Tue Sep 26 23:02:33 2000 +++ /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors/chapter.sgml Tue Sep 26 23:20:42 2000 @@ -3216,6 +3216,19 @@ + + Hungary + + + + + cvsup.hu.FreeBSD.org (maintainer + mohacsi@ik.bme.hu) + + + + + Iceland Thanks! >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 26 15:23: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 355AB37B624; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:21:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA22272; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 23:21:08 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 23:21:07 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: Nik Clayton , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Argh, somebody broke docproj and hence make release! Message-ID: <20000926232107.A22188@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> References: <80844.970002418@winston.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: <80844.970002418@winston.osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com on Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 02:06:58PM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 02:06:58PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > Which machine are building this on? > > I've reproduced this on several machines already, so it's certainly > not the environment (I run parallel release builds for various > reasons). > > Thanks. Can you give me a host name on which it's failed, and the commands I need to duplicate the chroot environment. I can't duplicate this locally, and don't have the resources to run a full release. If I can at least ssh in to a build box that's showing the problem then I've got a chance of debugging it. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 26 15:38:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CCB037B423; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:38:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8QMcQU81331; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:38:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com) To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Argh, somebody broke docproj and hence make release! In-Reply-To: Message from Nik Clayton of "Tue, 26 Sep 2000 23:21:07 BST." <20000926232107.A22188@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 15:38:26 -0700 Message-ID: <81327.970007906@winston.osd.bsdi.com> From: Jordan Hubbard Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Can you give me a host name on which it's failed, and the commands I need > to duplicate the chroot environment. I can't duplicate this locally, and > don't have the resources to run a full release. If I can at least ssh in > to a build box that's showing the problem then I've got a chance of > debugging it. Argh, I was afraid you'd say that. Everything here is firewalled from the outside, even to ssh, and I can't get you into any of our "guest boxes" as root, which is what you'd need to be in order to chroot into anywhere. Not being able to do a `make release' locally is a real handicap in today's increasingly-more-complex FreeBSD, especially for any docs we bundle automatically into each release. What sort of resources are you short on? If it's just disk, I'm sure the company we both work for would be happy to buy you a big honkin' IDE drive for just that purpose. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 26 16:55:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36F3A37B422 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 16:55:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parish ([62.255.96.145]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000926235509.XDGW19246.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@parish> for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 00:55:09 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e8QNtXO03472 for doc@freebsd.org; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 00:55:33 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 00:55:33 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Major work on the FAQ in progress Message-ID: <20000927005533.D252@parish> References: <20000926114540.A252@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000926114540.A252@parish>; from marko@freebsd.org on Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 11:45:40AM +0100 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 11:45:40AM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > Hi, > > I am currently in the process of re-formatting the entire FAQ so that the > mark-up conforms to the FDP (Translation Teams: these are whitespace > changes only). > OK, I've finished FAQing about :) The entire FAQ has now been re-formatted to make the mark-up conform to the FDP. I don't know how long the changes will take to propagate to the mirrors, but the most recent version of the SGML source is at http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/~checkout~/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml?rev=1.106&content-type=text/plain That's it. I'm now going to have a few pints. BTW, if anybody's interested, the final number of changes were: +1905 -1766 +2 -2 +689 -523 +791 -667 +607 -497 +1920 -1604 +2082 -1534 +1273 -1035 ----------- +9269 -7628 > Even though I am committing the changes one chapter at a time they are > still large commits (the first was ~2000 lines) and it will potentially > cause me problems if other changes are made whilst this work is on-going > (and your own patches may not apply). > > Because of this I would appreciate it if everyone would delay making any > commits until I have finished, which I hope to be within the next 24 > hours. > > I will post to -doc when the work is complete. > > Thank you for your co-operation. > > -- > 4.4 - The number of the Beastie > ________________________________________________________________ > 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org > 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark > mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 26 17:11:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sydney.worldwide.lemis.com (asbestos.linuxcare.com.au [203.17.0.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35BA037B423; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 17:11:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from grog@localhost) by sydney.worldwide.lemis.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA07146; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:11:00 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from grog) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:11:00 +1100 From: Greg Lehey To: Nik Clayton Cc: Jordan Hubbard , doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Argh, somebody broke docproj and hence make release! Message-ID: <20000927111100.B7058@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> References: <80844.970002418@winston.osd.bsdi.com> <20000926232107.A22188@catkin.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000926232107.A22188@catkin.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.ORG on Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 11:21:07PM +0100 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday, 26 September 2000 at 23:21:07 +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 02:06:58PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: >>> Which machine are building this on? >> >> I've reproduced this on several machines already, so it's certainly >> not the environment (I run parallel release builds for various >> reasons). Agreed. I've been having exactly the same problems. >> Thanks. > > Can you give me a host name on which it's failed, and the commands I need > to duplicate the chroot environment. I can't duplicate this locally, and > don't have the resources to run a full release. If I can at least ssh in > to a build box that's showing the problem then I've got a chance of > debugging it. Since Jordan can't, I can. This is zaphod.lemis.com; contact me and I'll give you access details. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 26 17:53:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from cliff.odetics.com (ns1.odetics.com [198.58.70.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A55A37B43E for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 17:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fw.odetics.com (fwqfe0 [198.58.70.65]) by cliff.odetics.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 44DA13BD4A for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 17:53:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from crater.odetics.com by odetics.com (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id RAA07840; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 17:53:27 -0700 Received: by crater.odetics.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 17:53:24 -0700 Message-ID: From: Don Tran To: "'doc@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: help on installing oracle based on your instructions Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 17:53:23 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C0281D.56A57320" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0281D.56A57320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" where is Kernel configuration done, how do you compile a kernel can you/anyone help me w/this as well please, - in the Kernel configuration, add these parameters: - section for shared memory options SHMALL-4097 options SHMMAXPGS=4097 options "SHMMAX=(SHMMAXPGS*PAGE_SIZE+1)" - section for semaphores options SEMMAP=255 options SEMMNI=235 - then compile the kernel and reboot QUESTIONS: where is the Kernel configuration to add these parameters: for memory and semaphores how do you compile a kernel, what's the command thanks in advanced for any help ------_=_NextPart_001_01C0281D.56A57320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" help on installing oracle based on your instructions

where is Kernel configuration done,
how do you compile a kernel

can you/anyone help me w/this as well please,
- in the Kernel configuration, add these parameters:
- section for shared memory
options SHMALL-4097
options SHMMAXPGS=4097
options "SHMMAX=(SHMMAXPGS*PAGE_SIZE+1)"

- section for semaphores
options SEMMAP=255
options SEMMNI=235

- then compile the kernel and reboot

QUESTIONS:
where is the Kernel configuration to add these parameters: for memory and semaphores
how do you compile a kernel, what's the command

thanks in advanced for any help


------_=_NextPart_001_01C0281D.56A57320-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 26 18:20:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2765337B423 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 18:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA90009; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 18:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.hcisp.net (Stargate.hcisp.net [208.60.89.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B6D037B422 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 18:12:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3093 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2000 01:19:27 -0000 Received: from modem15.hcisp.net (HELO threads.polyesthetic.msg) (208.60.89.81) by stargate.hcisp.net with SMTP; 27 Sep 2000 01:19:27 -0000 Received: from tim by threads.polyesthetic.msg with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 13e3Ze-0006Zd-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 18:51:42 -0400 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 18:51:42 -0400 From: tim@desert.net Reply-To: tim@desert.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/21586: wrong location of mailer.conf in man page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 21586 >Category: docs >Synopsis: wrong location of mailer.conf in man page >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Sep 26 18:20:00 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Thimble Smith >Release: FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: The man page for mailer.conf(5) gives /etc/mailer.conf instead of /etc/mail/mailer.conf as the file name. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: tim@threads:/usr/src$ diff -u /usr/src/share/man/man5/mailer.conf.5 /tmp/mailer. conf.5 --- /usr/src/share/man/man5/mailer.conf.5 Sun Dec 19 08:50:36 1999 +++ /tmp/mailer.conf.5 Tue Sep 26 17:14:43 2000 @@ -40,7 +40,7 @@ .Sh DESCRIPTION .Pp The file -.Pa /etc/mailer.conf +.Pa /etc/mail/mailer.conf contains a series of pairs. The first member of each pair is the name of a program invoking .Xr mailwrapper 8 @@ -76,7 +76,7 @@ newaliases /usr/libexec/postfix/sendmail .Ed .Sh FILES -/etc/mailer.conf +/etc/mail/mailer.conf .Sh SEE ALSO .Xr mail 1 , .Xr mailq 1 , >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 26 18:29:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDA0837B43E; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 18:29:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from marko@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA96027; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 18:29:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marko@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 18:29:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200009270129.SAA96027@freefall.freebsd.org> To: marko@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, marko@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/21586: wrong location of mailer.conf in man page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: wrong location of mailer.conf in man page Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->marko Responsible-Changed-By: marko Responsible-Changed-When: Tue Sep 26 18:28:34 PDT 2000 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll deal with this http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=21586 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 26 18:44:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (mta02-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C2E37B422 for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 18:44:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parish ([62.253.88.131]) by mta02-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000927024333.TZGJ23965.mta02-svc.ntlworld.com@parish>; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 02:43:33 +0000 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e8R1jBD05733; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 02:45:11 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 02:45:10 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Francisco Reyes Cc: Francisco Reyes , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How to change man pages? Message-ID: <20000927024510.J252@parish> References: <20000924204700.C255@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from fran@reyes.somos.net on Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 02:14:20PM -0400 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Sep 25, 2000 at 02:14:20PM -0400, Francisco Reyes wrote: > On Sun, 24 Sep 2000, Mark Ovens wrote: > > > From what I read this is not part of the Doc project. > > > > Oh yes they are > > > Is this mentioned anywhere? Not that I know of > I did not see anything on the doc project pages. > Also it would be helpfull to have some info or pointers about how one goes > about working with man pages. > As I said in a previous post, read mdoc.samples(7), that's all I had available (plus existing manpage files) when I learned. Tip: gunzip(1) a manpage to /tmp # gunzip -c /path/to/foobar.1.gz > /tmp/foobar.1 investigate it/play with it and to view it use: # nroff -mandoc /tmp/foobar.1 | more man(1) will only find manpages if they are in a sub-dir called man[1-9] of a directory called ``man'', e.g. /some/path/man/man1/foobar.1.gz. The ``-M'' option only changes the name of the parent (man) directory. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Sep 26 21:57:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns.arunlng.co.id (ns.arunlng.co.id [202.155.35.225]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7E5E737B50F for ; Tue, 26 Sep 2000 21:57:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dalam.bas.com by ns.arunlng.co.id (8.10.0/8.10.0) id AA17245; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:48:12 +0700 Message-Id: <4.0.1.20000927114935.0115e970@172.16.16.200> X-Sender: nxtjokro@172.16.16.200 (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.0.1 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:49:44 +0700 To: doc@FreeBSD.org From: Syaifuddin Ma'rifatullah Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 27 3:54:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B35237B424; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 03:54:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from marko@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id DAA61663; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 03:54:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marko@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 03:54:38 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200009271054.DAA61663@freefall.freebsd.org> To: enderle@mdn.de, marko@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/21057: Little correction of hier(8) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Little correction of hier(8) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: marko State-Changed-When: Wed Sep 27 03:45:42 PDT 2000 State-Changed-Why: I'm closing this without committing it. The various discussions that have taken place suggest that there is no real provenance for the origin of either meaning of "usr". Additionally, hier(7) does not aim to describe Unix history (the first line states it is a "sketch" of the filesystem). If anyone disagrees strongly enough, feel free to re-open this and make the commit. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=21057 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 27 5: 7: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from atzh3.gordon.army.mil (atzh3.gordon.army.mil [147.51.5.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD22B37B422 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 05:06:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wo216083 (wo216083.gordon.army.mil [147.51.216.83]) by atzh3.gordon.army.mil with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id TMTV48J5; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 08:06:57 -0400 From: "mark hoyt" To: Subject: Solaris 8.0 Image Copying Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 06:11:22 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Help! Have a question on image copying a hard drive that has 3 O/S installed on it. The first O/S is Solaris 8.0 the other two are NT 4.0 WS and Server. I have (after a ton of time) successfully installed these 3 O/S on my platform. I now want to create an image of the hard drive. The problem is that Solaris 8 adds a new partition (didn't see this in 2.6) which is called the x86 boot. This partition which is fairly small is not copyable by my image copying software (Ghost). However the primary Solaris 8 partition and the 2 NT are. Do you know of anyone who knows how to copy the Solaris 8 x86 boot partition? VR MARK V. HOYT MAJ, SC Chief, IA Training DSN 780-5137, FAX 6161 COMM 1-706-791-xxxx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 27 5:49:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rhea.worldonline.nl (rhea.worldonline.nl [195.241.48.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BDD937B423 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 05:49:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sperwer (ppp227-7.12move.nl [195.240.227.7]) by rhea.worldonline.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 147E9374DA for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:49:04 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <000801c02881$1737d0c0$07e3f0c3@sperwer> From: "Wim Roffel" To: Subject: FreeBSD ports page Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 14:47:26 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C02891.DA6E3B00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C02891.DA6E3B00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I am composing a page with links on opensource software (should come at = http://opensource.pagina.nl in a few days). This page should be a = collection of links to opensource software. However, I had a little = problem at the following page: http://www.freebsd.org/ports/.=20 I would like to to links to the list of the ports. But that is somewhere = deep down on the page. I would appreciate it if you could make a tag in = that page so that I could links directly there (something like = http://www.freebsd.org/ports#list ) I would appreciate it very much if you could make such a change. Thanks, Wim Roffel ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C02891.DA6E3B00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,
 
I am composing a page with links on = opensource=20 software (should come at http://opensource.pagina.nl = ;in a few=20 days). This page should be a collection of links to opensource = software.=20 However, I had a little problem at the following page: http://www.freebsd.org/ports/.= =20
 
I would like to to links to the list of = the ports.=20 But that is somewhere deep down on the page. I would appreciate it if = you could=20 make a tag in that page so that I could links directly there (something = like http://www.freebsd.org/ports#l= ist=20 )
 
I would appreciate it very much if you = could make=20 such a change.
 
Thanks,
 
Wim Roffel
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C02891.DA6E3B00-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 27 9: 4:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.nwlink.com (smtp.nwlink.com [209.20.130.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C87E37B42C; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:04:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from utah (jcwells@utah.nwlink.com [209.20.130.41]) by smtp.nwlink.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA17606; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:04:48 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 09:17:49 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jcwells@utah To: Nik Clayton Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Search Engine For Site In-Reply-To: <20000922235505.A765@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Here is a quick question. Does www.freebsd.org support PHP? Do the mirrors? Thank you, Jason C. Wells To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 27 10: 5:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.nwlink.com (smtp.nwlink.com [209.20.130.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58C7637B424 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:05:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from utah (jcwells@utah.nwlink.com [209.20.130.41]) by smtp.nwlink.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA03733 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:05:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:18:50 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jcwells@utah Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Assessing Search Engine Issues Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Belay my last question. I have a series of questions regarding the current site and issues that impacts selecting a new search engine. Does the webserver have a database engine running on it? Does the webserver have PHP? Will it? Can it? How does the mail archive and search work? Is it home grown or is it some third party software? Are there docs in existence? Hom does the current web search work? Is it home grown or is it some third pacty software? Are there docs for it? I heard a rumor that the current search system has become unmanageable. Can someone in the know speak on that issue? As I understand rumblings on chat, folks aren't terribly dissatisfied. They do want a stronger boolean syntax and date functionality. They want sortability on the results. I could answer these questions for myself if I were allowed to poke around. Could someone vouch for me for an account on hub? Thank you, Jason C. Wells To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 27 10:32: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E83C37B43F for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:31:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8RHVfU85693; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:31:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com) To: "Jason C. Wells" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Assessing Search Engine Issues In-Reply-To: Message from "Jason C. Wells" of "Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:18:50 PDT." Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:31:41 -0700 Message-ID: <85689.970075901@winston.osd.bsdi.com> From: Jordan Hubbard Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Does the webserver have a database engine running on it? Does the > webserver have PHP? Will it? Can it? No. No. Maybe. :) The reason it doesn't run it is fairly simple - the mirrors. If you raise the configuration bar for www.freebsd.org, you end up raising it for *all* the www[.xx].freebsd.org and secondary sites and that means getting all the admins involved to even agree to run PHP and some database engine, etc. Since that's also been a historical impediment to progress, what needs to happen, and in fact has happened, is for the content requiring such backing support to live on a centrally administered server (or servers) other than www.freebsd.org and simply be referenced from there. Local mirrors are cool, but they can't be expected to cache all possible content and there have *always* been links to other non-mirrored sites in our documentation anyway. What am I saying? I'm saying "search.freebsd.org, I think your time has come! Any ISPs out there willing to donate the machine/IP resources?" - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 27 10:50:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.nwlink.com (smtp.nwlink.com [209.20.130.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A31A637B43F for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:50:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from utah (jcwells@utah.nwlink.com [209.20.130.41]) by smtp.nwlink.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA14647; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:50:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:03:36 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jcwells@utah To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Assessing Search Engine Issues In-Reply-To: <85689.970075901@winston.osd.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > What am I saying? I'm saying "search.freebsd.org, I think your time > has come! Any ISPs out there willing to donate the machine/IP > resources?" If the box can go live with ssh set up, I am willing to inflict my personal brand of damage on it. Give me something that runs and I can do the rest. I am not yet presuming a solution. A dedicated server with no dependencies on hub's existing code plays a huge factor in the decision process though. Thank you, Jason C. Wells To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 27 10:57: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A965537B422 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:57:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8RHusU85864; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:56:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com) To: "Jason C. Wells" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Assessing Search Engine Issues In-Reply-To: Message from "Jason C. Wells" of "Wed, 27 Sep 2000 11:03:36 PDT." Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 10:56:54 -0700 Message-ID: <85860.970077414@winston.osd.bsdi.com> From: Jordan Hubbard Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > If the box can go live with ssh set up, I am willing to inflict my > personal brand of damage on it. Give me something that runs and I can do > the rest. Don't forget (folks) that this machine will also have to have some bandwidth going to it since it will first have to copy off all the archived mailing list data and then handle ongoing subscriptions to every FreeBSD mailing list there this. For the same reason, this machine will also have to have a generous amount of storage. :) The current archive weighs in at 508MB and is sure to grow. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 27 12: 2:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ice.cream.org (ice.cream.org [195.8.71.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 08A7F37B423 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 23701 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2000 19:02:03 -0000 Received: from ice.cream.org (HELO cream.org) (195.8.71.30) by ice.cream.org with SMTP; 27 Sep 2000 19:02:03 -0000 Content-Length: 841 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <85860.970077414@winston.osd.bsdi.com> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 20:02:11 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Boothman To: Jordan Hubbard Subject: Re: Assessing Search Engine Issues Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, "Jason C. Wells" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 27-Sep-00 Jordan Hubbard wrote: >> If the box can go live with ssh set up, I am willing to inflict my >> personal brand of damage on it. Give me something that runs and I can do >> the rest. > > Don't forget (folks) that this machine will also have to have some > bandwidth going to it since it will first have to copy off all the > archived mailing list data and then handle ongoing subscriptions to > every FreeBSD mailing list there this. For the same reason, this > machine will also have to have a generous amount of storage. :) > The current archive weighs in at 508MB and is sure to grow. Out of interest, how much mail per day is generated by the FreeBSD mailing lists? In other words, the archive is currently 508MB, but how much is it going to grow by each day? --- Andrew Boothman http://sour.cream.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 27 12: 9:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DD5137B423 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:09:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8RJ9GU86218; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:09:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com) To: Andrew Boothman Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, "Jason C. Wells" Subject: Re: Assessing Search Engine Issues In-Reply-To: Message from Andrew Boothman of "Wed, 27 Sep 2000 20:02:11 BST." Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:09:16 -0700 Message-ID: <86215.970081756@winston.osd.bsdi.com> From: Jordan Hubbard Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Out of interest, how much mail per day is generated by the FreeBSD mailing > lists? In other words, the archive is currently 508MB, but how much is it goi ng > to grow by each day? Good question. No answer. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 27 12:20:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1124437B422 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:20:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e8RJKel17175; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:20:40 -0700 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 12:20:40 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Andrew Boothman Cc: Jordan Hubbard , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, "Jason C. Wells" Subject: Re: Assessing Search Engine Issues Message-ID: <20000927122040.A16883@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <85860.970077414@winston.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from andrew@cream.org on Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 08:02:11PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 08:02:11PM +0100, Andrew Boothman wrote: > Out of interest, how much mail per day is generated by the FreeBSD mailing > lists? In other words, the archive is currently 508MB, but how much is it going > to grow by each day? I don't get all of it, but I get most of the high traffic lists other then -questions and that runs from 30 to 45MB per month. With -questions, you're probably looking at 1.5-2MB per day. Some days it's quite a bit more then that. -- Brooks -- Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 27 13:16:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from scrabble.freeuk.net (scrabble.freeuk.net [212.126.144.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 52E2437B423; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:16:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from du-006-0168.freeuk.com ([212.126.147.168] helo=cream.org) by scrabble.freeuk.net with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 13eNca-0006bM-00; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 21:16:05 +0100 Content-Length: 548 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) In-Reply-To: <86215.970081756@winston.osd.bsdi.com> Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 21:16:14 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Boothman To: Jordan Hubbard Subject: Re: Assessing Search Engine Issues Cc: "Jason C. Wells" , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, jmb@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 27-Sep-00 Jordan Hubbard wrote: >> Out of interest, how much mail per day is generated by the FreeBSD mailing >> lists? In other words, the archive is currently 508MB, but how much is it >> going to grow by each day? > > Good question. No answer. :) Fair enough ;-) I'll pass this to Jonathan Bresler for a second shot at getting an answer, 'cos I think it's important to see how the Mailing List Archive is going to grow before it is possible to specify a machine to search it. --- Andrew Boothman http://sour.cream.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 27 13:59:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 042BB37B422; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:59:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13eOHh-000M4e-00; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:58:33 +0200 Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 22:58:33 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: "Jason C. Wells" Cc: Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Search Engine For Site Message-ID: <20000927225833.A84840@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <20000922235505.A765@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from jcwells@nwlink.com on Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 09:17:49AM -0700 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed 2000-09-27 (09:17), Jason C. Wells wrote: > Here is a quick question. Does www.freebsd.org support PHP? Do the > mirrors? No. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 27 18:13:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe37.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.30.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDB9037B422 for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 18:13:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 18:13:40 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [196.3.220.104] From: "Winston Williams" To: Subject: Os design Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 21:15:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C028C8.0491AD00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 28 Sep 2000 01:13:40.0567 (UTC) FILETIME=[563C7E70:01C028E9] Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C028C8.0491AD00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I'm interested in developing my own os, which courses did you take to get started.? or point me to some links on tutorials and docs on the subject THANK YOU From the documentation on the web I can say your Freebsd is very = popular, for right now I can't download it, I would really like to so i = can get away from the constraints of Windows, I have a copy of Redhat's = Linux 6 but my computer was unfortunately downgraded to a Amd486 and the = linux kernel says it was designed for a pentium so i can't run it. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C028C8.0491AD00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C028C8.0491AD00-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Sep 27 19:46:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from monkeys.com (236.dsl9226.rcsis.com [63.92.26.236]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0D6837B43C for ; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 19:46:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from monkeys.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by monkeys.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA26728; Wed, 27 Sep 2000 19:46:53 -0700 (PDT) To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: Mike Meyer Subject: An example of how to use kqueue/kevent is a real server process Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 19:46:53 -0700 Message-ID: <26726.970109213@monkeys.com> From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings Documentarians! A fellow (Mike Meyer ) suggested that I inform you of a potentially useful bit of documentary code I have written. It shows, in a simple way, how to write a simple multi-client server using the new kqueue/kevent FreeBSD kernel primitives. If you are interested, the code for this simple example ``echo'' server may be found at: http://www.monkeys.com/kqueue/echo.c It is admitedly written in a rather idiosyncratic style (i.e. mine, which I have developed over the years) but if you folks would like to use it to help document proper usage of kqueue/kevent, please feel free. (I actually wrote the example echo server just to make sure that I did really know how to use kqueue/kevent _before_ I started trying to use them on a bigger project.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 28 2:33:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [194.128.198.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D25B737B424; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 02:33:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e8S95UR51704; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:05:30 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:05:30 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: "Jason C. Wells" Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, core@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Assessing Search Engine Issues Message-ID: <20000928100529.A51667@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jcwells@nwlink.com on Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 10:18:50AM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 10:18:50AM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: > Does the webserver have a database engine running on it? Does the > webserver have PHP? Will it? Can it? No. Maybe. Yes. (No, that's not eivind's most recent e-mail address). It might do, if the benefits outweigh the costs. The cost, basically, is that the existing mirrors have to be able to duplicate it easily, and it needs to be as simple as possible to set up. That would basically mean putting the site infrastructure tools in to the ports tree (where they're not already there) and coming up with a list of 7-10 things that a new web mirror has to do. PHP and database stuff also brings up interesting issues relating to 1. How do you version the content in the database? 2. How do you make it easy for translators to translate it? 3. How do you audit it? > How does the mail archive and search work? Poorly. > Is it home grown or is it some third party software? WAIS, from what I can gather. > Are there docs in existence? Ho ho ho. Ahem. No, not yet. > Hom does the current web search work? Is it home grown or is it some > third pacty software? Are there docs for it? As above. > I heard a rumor that the current search system has become unmanageable. > Can someone in the know speak on that issue? I don't know if "unmanageable" is the right word. But it certainly doesn't seem to be returning the right sort of hits, it's poorly documented, and the options when searching are very limited. > As I understand rumblings on chat, folks aren't terribly dissatisfied. > They do want a stronger boolean syntax and date functionality. They want > sortability on the results. > > I could answer these questions for myself if I were allowed to poke > around. Could someone vouch for me for an account on hub? I'd have no problem with that -- I've cc'd this to -core for their perusal. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. 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------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C0294F.2430B160-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 28 10: 5:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.nwlink.com (smtp.nwlink.com [209.20.130.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED9837B422; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:05:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from utah (jcwells@utah.nwlink.com [209.20.130.41]) by smtp.nwlink.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA16742; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:05:23 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:18:25 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jcwells@utah Reply-To: "Jason C. Wells" To: Nik Clayton Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, core@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Assessing Search Engine Issues In-Reply-To: <20000928100529.A51667@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 10:18:50AM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: > It might do, if the benefits outweigh the costs. The cost, basically, > is that the existing mirrors have to be able to duplicate it easily, and > it needs to be as simple as possible to set up. That would basically > mean putting the site infrastructure tools in to the ports tree (where > they're not already there) and coming up with a list of 7-10 things that > a new web mirror has to do. I don't think the mirrors have to change. I would rather implement a systew where they don't. > PHP and database stuff also brings up interesting issues relating to > > 1. How do you version the content in the database? You don't. If you wanted a versionable search, we could enforce META tag discipline. That is not needed to put a search engine in place. > 2. How do you make it easy for translators to translate it? You don't. Since the search engine could be set up to search the website of a specific language (i.e. www.de) then you don't need to worry about language. (caveat: The search database should store non-english characters in the text fields.) > 3. How do you audit it? I don't understand. > > Are there docs in existence? > Ho ho ho. :) Either I am having a gross conceptual error or some folks are coming to the wrong conclusions when the words PHP and database springs up. In either case the communication is muddy. I don't want to build a slashdot clone! What I am gathering is that a couple of you have come to an understanding that the mail archive and the website will be replaced by database/PHP driven versions. Not in my mind. I think trying to change a global, multilanguage system that works is a _very_ big job. I don't think it is necessary to make all mirrors go PHP. PHP is a wildcard though. Hmmm. Another post is coming. In my mind all of the websites and multinational mirrors stay completely unmolested. All of the various mail archives stay completely unmolested. The search host merely searches and indexes and that is it. I still have not determined the way to go. > I'd have no problem with that -- I've cc'd this to -core for their > perusal. OK. Thank you, Jason C. Wells To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 28 10:20:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.nwlink.com (smtp.nwlink.com [209.20.130.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE31837B617 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:20:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from utah (jcwells@utah.nwlink.com [209.20.130.41]) by smtp.nwlink.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA20474 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:20:24 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 10:33:24 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jcwells@utah To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: PHP for All Mirrors? (Search Engine Sidebar) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org (Try to ignore the fact that there are search engine issues attached to this question. Consider PHP on it's own merit. I ask for the sake of being thorough.) Does the documentation project want to implement a PHP/database driven solution for the website and non-english mirrors? My answer is no. I will elaborate if needed. Thank you, Jason C. Wells To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 28 11:19:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from post.webmailer.de (natmail2.webmailer.de [192.67.198.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 153A537B43E; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:18:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from server.wes.mee.com (pC19EB362.dip.t-dialin.net [193.158.179.98]) by post.webmailer.de (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA28046; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 20:18:49 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by server.wes.mee.com (8.11.0/8.9.3/FreeBSD V5-Current) with ESMTP id e8SHngB00913; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:49:42 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:49:42 +0200 (CEST) From: Frederik Meerwaldt X-Sender: frederik@server.wes.mee.com To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: "Jason C. Wells" , Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Search Engine For Site In-Reply-To: <20000927225833.A84840@mithrandr.moria.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! > > Here is a quick question. Does www.freebsd.org support PHP? Do the > > mirrors? > > No. Why don't you just compile it in? It's just an apache module. -- Best Regards, Freddy ===================================================================== Frederik Meerwaldt ICQ: 83045387 Homepage: http://www.freddym.org Bavaria/Germany OpenVMS and Unix Howtos and much more FREEBSD, NETBSD, OPENBSD, TRU64, OPENVMS, ULTRIX, BEOS, LINUX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 28 11:37:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9675437B424; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:37:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13eiXz-000OqX-00; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 20:36:43 +0200 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 20:36:43 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Frederik Meerwaldt Cc: "Jason C. Wells" , Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Search Engine For Site Message-ID: <20000928203642.A95423@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <20000927225833.A84840@mithrandr.moria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from frederik@freddym.org on Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 07:49:42PM +0200 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu 2000-09-28 (19:49), Frederik Meerwaldt wrote: > Hi! > > > > Here is a quick question. Does www.freebsd.org support PHP? Do the > > > mirrors? > > > > No. > > Why don't you just compile it in? It's just an apache module. We can, but we can't expect our mirrors to. And I can't see a search engine requiring a PHP interface. The search currently only occurs on selected sites (maybe just www.FreeBSD.org), so it's possible if necessary, but I hope it isn't. If we do go dynamic, I'd probably suggest Zope. But that's a rather big step, and it has lots of issues that need to be looked at first. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 28 12: 9:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD5B037B423; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 12:09:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id MAA89853; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 12:09:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 12:09:55 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Kris Kennaway Cc: committers@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org, ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Guidelines for new port version variables Message-ID: <20000928120954.C89733@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from kris@FreeBSD.org on Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 02:25:14AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 02:25:14AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > This is a revised version of the original proposal document I sent to > -ports, which describes what the two new package version variables are > (PORTREVISION and PORTEPOCH) and how to use them. Please update doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/porters-handbook/ so we can find the new policy. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 28 14:15: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94E9937B424; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:15:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (kris@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id OAA68019; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:15:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kris@FreeBSD.org) X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: kris owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 14:15:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Kris Kennaway To: "David O'Brien" Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Guidelines for new port version variables In-Reply-To: <20000928120954.C89733@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, David O'Brien wrote: > On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 02:25:14AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > This is a revised version of the original proposal document I sent to > > -ports, which describes what the two new package version variables are > > (PORTREVISION and PORTEPOCH) and how to use them. > > Please update doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/porters-handbook/ so we can find > the new policy. I need someone from the doc project to mark it up..I haven't heard anything back however. Kris -- In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. -- Charles Forsythe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 28 15:56:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (mta06-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D155B37B42C; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 15:56:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parish ([62.255.96.31]) by mta06-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000928225615.KQNG19246.mta06-svc.ntlworld.com@parish>; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:56:15 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e8SMu3J00758; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:56:03 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:56:03 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Kris Kennaway Cc: "David O'Brien" , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Guidelines for new port version variables Message-ID: <20000928235603.C255@parish> References: <20000928120954.C89733@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from kris@freebsd.org on Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 02:15:05PM -0700 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 02:15:05PM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, David O'Brien wrote: > > > On Sun, Sep 17, 2000 at 02:25:14AM -0700, Kris Kennaway wrote: > > > This is a revised version of the original proposal document I sent to > > > -ports, which describes what the two new package version variables are > > > (PORTREVISION and PORTEPOCH) and how to use them. > > > > Please update doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/porters-handbook/ so we can find > > the new policy. > > I need someone from the doc project to mark it up..I haven't heard > anything back however. > I'll do it. Please mail me a copy of the document that you are referring to. > Kris > > -- > In God we Trust -- all others must submit an X.509 certificate. > -- Charles Forsythe > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 28 16: 9:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 069CC37B423 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 16:09:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13emnn-000PNe-00; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 01:09:19 +0200 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 01:09:19 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: "Jason C. Wells" Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PHP for All Mirrors? (Search Engine Sidebar) Message-ID: <20000929010919.A97527@mithrandr.moria.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from jcwells@nwlink.com on Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 10:33:24AM -0700 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu 2000-09-28 (10:33), Jason C. Wells wrote: > (Try to ignore the fact that there are search engine issues attached to > this question. Consider PHP on it's own merit. I ask for the sake of > being thorough.) > > Does the documentation project want to implement a PHP/database driven > solution for the website and non-english mirrors? > > My answer is no. I will elaborate if needed. My answer is the same as the answer to "Does PHP work on publicfile?". If we're going to go dynamic, let's make the decision to go dynamic first, and list what we want. Obviously, this only applies to the master web server, not mirror sites, who'll simply have links to dynamic content on the master web server. If we do decide to go dynamic, I'll probably beat up all the people who suggest PHP, and suggest we use Zope instead. At the moment, I'd prefer to go for one of the many cgi-based search engines that don't involve messing with PHP. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 28 17:15: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.nwlink.com (smtp.nwlink.com [209.20.130.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9459737B424 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:14:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from utah (jcwells@utah.nwlink.com [209.20.130.41]) by smtp.nwlink.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id RAA16258; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:14:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:27:52 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jcwells@utah To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PHP for All Mirrors? (Search Engine Sidebar) In-Reply-To: <20000929010919.A97527@mithrandr.moria.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > My answer is the same as the answer to "Does PHP work on publicfile?". I don't know what publicfile is, but I think I get your drift. The answer is no. > If we're going to go dynamic, let's make the decision to go dynamic > first, and list what we want. This is precisely why I pulled this question out as a sidebar. The PHP thing showed up twice in discussion up as a new global architecture to everything including Jordan's cats. Since it showed up, I thought it should be asked, as I said, to be thorough. So far I have two NO votes and zero YES votes. A better question is: Is anyone willing to _do the work_ to make the website PHP (or Zope) based? 1,2,3 NOT IT! :) I am just here for a seach engine effort which I volunteered to take on. After I get the pulse of the project, I can move forward with a plan. Thank you, Jason C. Wells P.S. The rest is spam. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 28 17:16:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from puck.firepipe.net (mcut-b-167.resnet.purdue.edu [128.211.209.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9987837B42C; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:16:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by puck.firepipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3F15218FD; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:16:57 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:16:57 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: David O'Brien Cc: Kris Kennaway , committers@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org, ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Guidelines for new port version variables Message-ID: <20000928191657.R30130@puck.firepipe.net> Reply-To: Will Andrews Mail-Followup-To: Will Andrews , David O'Brien , Kris Kennaway , committers@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org, ports@FreeBSD.org References: <20000928120954.C89733@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000928120954.C89733@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.org on Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 12:09:55PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 12:09:55PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > Please update doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/porters-handbook/ so we can find > the new policy. David, please stop whining that you didn't have time to read the proposal or make your objections/suggestions in time for its adoption. Just because it's not written down doesn't mean it isn't a rule. If Satoshi puts it in bsd.port.mk, it is a rule. I would not object to your lame objections if the rule was more than a month to 6 weeks old. But c'mon now, we're programmers, not doc-boiis. Let's be a little more reasonable here, especially with a rule that makes perfect sense to the vast majority of the folks following it. Thanks, -- Will Andrews - Physics Computer Network wench The Universal Answer to All Problems - "It has something to do with physics." -- Comic on door of Room 240, Physics Building, Purdue University To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 28 17:16:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0429137B43E; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:15:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13enq0-000PbU-00; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 02:15:40 +0200 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 02:15:39 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Mark Ovens Cc: Kris Kennaway , David O'Brien , doc@freebsd.org, ben@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Guidelines for new port version variables Message-ID: <20000929021539.A98318@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <20000928120954.C89733@dragon.nuxi.com> <20000928235603.C255@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000928235603.C255@parish>; from marko@freebsd.org on Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 11:56:03PM +0100 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Thu 2000-09-28 (23:56), Mark Ovens wrote: > > I need someone from the doc project to mark it up..I haven't heard > > anything back however. > > > > I'll do it. Please mail me a copy of the document that you are referring to. Here's my quick-shot at it. My brain isn't in docbook mode, so I probably misused or missed uses of literal, quote, and so forth. I'm pretty sure either Ben or Mark will remind me how this all works again. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Description: porters-handbook.portrevision.patch Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="porters-handbook.portrevision.patch" Index: book.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.129 diff -u -r1.129 book.sgml --- book.sgml 2000/09/24 07:01:53 1.129 +++ book.sgml 2000/09/29 00:04:58 @@ -675,6 +675,223 @@ + <makevar>PORTREVISION</makevar> and + <makevar>PORTEPOCH</makevar> + + + <makevar>PORTREVISION</makevar> + + The PORTREVISION variable is a + monotonically increasing value which is reset to 0 with + every increase of PORTVERSION (i.e. + every time a new official vendor release is made), and + appended to the package name if non-zero. + PORTREVISION is increased each time a + change is made to the FreeBSD port which significantly + affects the content or stucture of the derived + package. + + Examples of when PORTREVISION should be bumped: + + + + Addition of patches to correct security + vulnerabilities, bugs, or to add new functionality to + the FreeBSD port. + + + + Changes to the port makefile to enable or disable + compile-time options in the package. + + + + Changes in the packing list or the install-time + behaviour of the package (e.g. change to a script + which generates initial data for the package, like ssh + host keys). + + + + Version bump of a port's shared library dependency + (in this case, someone trying to install the old + package after installing a newer version of the + dependency will fail since it will look for the old + libfoo.x instead of libfoo.(x+1)). + + + + Silent changes to the port distfile which have + significant functional differences, i.e. changes to + the distfile requiring a correction to files/md5 with + no corresponding change to + PORTVERSION, where a diff + -ru of the old and new versions shows + non-trivial changes to the code. + + + + Examples of changes which do not require a + PORTREVISION bump: + + + + Style changes to the port skeleton with no + functional change to what appears in the resulting + package. + + + + Changes to MASTER_SITES or + other functional changes to the port which do not + effect the resulting package. + + + + Trivial patches to the distfile such as correction + of typos, which are not important enough that users of + the package should go to the trouble of + upgrading. + + + + Build fixes which cause a package to become + compilable where it was previously failing (as long as + the changes do not introduce any functional change on + any other platforms on which the port did previously + build). Since PORTREVISION reflects + the content of the package, if no package was + previously buildable then there is no need to increase + PORTREVISION to mark a + change. + + + + A rule of thumb is to ask yourself whether a change + committed to a port is something which someone, somewhere, + would benefit from having (either because of an + enhancement, fix, or by virtue that the new package will + actually work for them). If yes, the + PORTREVISION should be bumped so that + automated tools (e.g. pkg_version) + will hilight the fact that a new package is + available. + + + + <makevar>PORTEPOCH</makevar> + + From time to time a software vendor or FreeBSD porter + will do something silly and release a version of their + software which is actually numerically less than the + previous version. An example of this is a port which goes + from foo-20000801 to foo-1.0 (the former will be + incorrectly treated as a newer version since 20000801 is a + numerically greater value than 1). + + In situations such as this, the + PORTEPOCH version should be increased. + If PORTEPOCH is nonzero it is appended + to the package name as described in section 0 above. + PORTEPOCH is never decreased or reset + to zero, because that would cause comparison to a package + from an earlier epoch to fail (i.e. the package would not + be detected as out of date): the new version number (e.g. + 1.0,1 in the above example) is still + numerically less than the previous version (2000801), but + the ,1 suffix is treated specially by + automated tools and found to be greater than the implied + suffix ",0" on the earlier package) + + It is expected that PORTEPOCH will + not be used for the majority of ports, and that sensible + use of PORTVERSION can often pre-empt + it becoming necessary if a future release of the software + should change the version structure. However, care is + needed by FreeBSD porters when a vendor release is made + without an official version number - such as a code + "snapshot" release. The temptation is to label the + release with the release date, which will cause problems + as in the example above when a new "official" release is + made. + + For example, if a snapshot release is made on the date + 20000917, and the previous version of the software was + version 1.2, the snapshot release should be given a + PORTVERSION of 1.2.20000917 or similar, + not 20000917, so that the succeeding release, say 1.3, is + still a numerically greater value. + + + + Example of <makevar>PORTREVISION</makevar> and + <makevar>PORTEPOCH</makevar> usage + + The gtkmumble port, version 0.10, is committed to the + ports collection. + + +PORTNAME= gtkmumble +PORTVERSION= 0.10 + + PKGNAME becomes + gtkmumble-0.10. + + A security hole is discovered which requires a local + FreeBSD patch. PORTREVISION is bumped + accordingly. + + +PORTNAME= gtkmumble +PORTVERSIOn= 0.10 +PORTREVISION= 1 + + PKGNAME becomes + gtkmumble-0.10_1 + + A new version is released by the vendor, numbered 0.2 + (it turns out the author actually intended + 0.10 to actually mean + 0.1.0, not what comes after + 0.9 - oops, too late now). Since the new minor + version 2 is numerically less than the + previous version 10 the + PORTEPOCH must be bumped to manually + force the new package to be detected as "newer". Since it + is a new vendor release of the code, + PORTREVISION is reset to 0 (or removed + from the makefile). + + +PORTNAME= gtkmumble +PORTVERSION= 0.2 +PORTEPOCH= 1 + + PKGNAME becomes + gtkmumble-0.2,1 + + The next release is 0.3. Since + PORTEPOCH never decreases, the version + variables are now: + + +PORTNAME= gtkmumble +PORTVERSION= 0.3 +PORTEPOCH= 1 + + PKGNAME becomes + gtkmumble-0.3,1 + + Note that if PORTEPOCH were reset + to 0 with this upgrade, someone who had + installed the gtkmumble-0.10_1 package would not detect + the gtkmumble-0.3 package as newer, since + 3 is still numerically less than + 10. + + + + <makevar>PKGNAMEPREFIX</makevar> and <makevar>PKGNAMESUFFIX</makevar> Two optional variables, PKGNAMEPREFIX and --mP3DRpeJDSE+ciuQ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 28 17:37:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0953937B424; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:37:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA91912; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:37:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 17:37:49 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Will Andrews , Kris Kennaway , committers@FreeBSD.org, doc@FreeBSD.org, ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Guidelines for new port version variables Message-ID: <20000928173749.B91871@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org References: <20000928120954.C89733@dragon.nuxi.com> <20000928191657.R30130@puck.firepipe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000928191657.R30130@puck.firepipe.net>; from will@physics.purdue.edu on Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 07:16:57PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 07:16:57PM -0500, Will Andrews wrote: > On Thu, Sep 28, 2000 at 12:09:55PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > > Please update doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/porters-handbook/ so we can find > > the new policy. > > David, please stop whining that you didn't have time to read the > proposal or make your objections/suggestions in time for its adoption. Uh Will just what does requesting that something be DOCUMENTED in the OFFICAL way mean whining about time??? Just today someone was asking about the new rules. Since it was not in the Porter's Handbook they could not just look there. Remember that Handbook is our guidlines and I might even aruge if it isn't in there is isn't policy. Unwritten policy isn't very useful. > Just because it's not written down doesn't mean it isn't a rule. If > Satoshi puts it in bsd.port.mk, it is a rule. WRONG. How can bsd.port.mk state policy? It *supports* the policy. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 28 18: 8:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 299A137B423; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 18:08:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parish ([62.253.88.22]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000929010817.EQBY16640.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@parish>; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 02:08:17 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e8T18A333176; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 02:08:10 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 02:08:04 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: Kris Kennaway , "David O'Brien" , doc@freebsd.org, ben@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Guidelines for new port version variables Message-ID: <20000929020804.G255@parish> References: <20000928120954.C89733@dragon.nuxi.com> <20000928235603.C255@parish> <20000929021539.A98318@mithrandr.moria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000929021539.A98318@mithrandr.moria.org>; from nbm@mithrandr.moria.org on Fri, Sep 29, 2000 at 02:15:39AM +0200 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Sep 29, 2000 at 02:15:39AM +0200, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > On Thu 2000-09-28 (23:56), Mark Ovens wrote: > > > I need someone from the doc project to mark it up..I haven't heard > > > anything back however. > > > > > > > I'll do it. Please mail me a copy of the document that you are referring to. > > Here's my quick-shot at it. > > My brain isn't in docbook mode, so I probably misused or missed uses of > literal, quote, and so forth. > > I'm pretty sure either Ben or Mark will remind me how this all works > again. > Looks just fine to me (one typo hilight -> highlight). I've committed it and also put the HTML version at http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark/port_rev_epoch.html in case anyone wants to read it before the docs get re-built. > Neil > -- > Neil Blakey-Milner > Sunesi Clinical Systems > nbm@mithrandr.moria.org -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 28 18:10:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EADC37B422 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 18:10:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13eogy-000Pmv-00 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 03:10:24 +0200 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 03:10:24 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: FreeBSD Documentation Project Subject: Making the handbook easier to use (part one) Message-ID: <20000929031023.A99079@mithrandr.moria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, The attached patch removes the scary bits that are contrib/chapter.sgml's contributor list and replaces it with a simple-to-use name|address to prevent messups and generally make it more the way I like it. I'm not sure what the rest of you think, but this is a test of making the handbook content easier to manipulate without docbook knowledge, possibly even easy to manipulate from a script. While this technique will probably work best with the web site, there are a few places in the doc tree that might benefit from this. Comments requested, Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 28 18:14:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (mta01-svc.ntlworld.com [62.253.162.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51FCE37B43C for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 18:14:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from parish ([62.253.88.22]) by mta01-svc.ntlworld.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.27 201-229-119-110) with ESMTP id <20000929011441.EQKU16640.mta01-svc.ntlworld.com@parish>; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 02:14:41 +0100 Received: (from mark@localhost) by parish (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e8T1EYQ33260; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 02:14:34 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from mark) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 02:14:34 +0100 From: Mark Ovens To: Neil Blakey-Milner Cc: FreeBSD Documentation Project Subject: Re: Making the handbook easier to use (part one) Message-ID: <20000929021434.H255@parish> References: <20000929031023.A99079@mithrandr.moria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000929031023.A99079@mithrandr.moria.org>; from nbm@mithrandr.moria.org on Fri, Sep 29, 2000 at 03:10:24AM +0200 Organization: Total lack of Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Sep 29, 2000 at 03:10:24AM +0200, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > Hi, > > The attached patch removes the scary bits that are > contrib/chapter.sgml's contributor list and replaces it with a > simple-to-use name|address to prevent messups and generally make it more > the way I like it. > > I'm not sure what the rest of you think, but this is a test of making > the handbook content easier to manipulate without docbook knowledge, > possibly even easy to manipulate from a script. While this technique > will probably work best with the web site, there are a few places in the > doc tree that might benefit from this. > > Comments requested, > Actually attaching the patch would be a good idea :) > Neil > -- > Neil Blakey-Milner > Sunesi Clinical Systems > nbm@mithrandr.moria.org > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- 4.4 - The number of the Beastie ________________________________________________________________ 51.44°N FreeBSD - The Power To Serve http://www.freebsd.org 2.057°W My Webpage http://ukug.uk.freebsd.org/~mark mailto:marko@freebsd.org http://www.radan.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 28 18:19:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74C9D37B424 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 18:16:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13eom8-000Poa-00 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 03:15:44 +0200 Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 03:15:44 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: FreeBSD Documentation Project Subject: Re: Making the handbook easier to use (part one) Message-ID: <20000929031544.A99184@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <20000929031023.A99079@mithrandr.moria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20000929031023.A99079@mithrandr.moria.org>; from nbm@mithrandr.moria.org on Fri, Sep 29, 2000 at 03:10:24AM +0200 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii On Fri 2000-09-29 (03:10), Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > The attached patch removes the scary bits that are > contrib/chapter.sgml's contributor list and replaces it with a > simple-to-use name|address to prevent messups and generally make it more > the way I like it. Ok, none of that makes sense without the other file, attached here. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=contributors-list ABURAYA Ryushirou|rewsirow@ff.iij4u.or.jp AMAGAI Yoshiji|amagai@nue.org Aaron Bornstein|aaronb@j51.com Aaron Smith|aaron@mutex.org Achim Patzner|ap@noses.com Ada T Lim|ada@bsd.org Adam Baran|badam@mw.mil.pl Adam Glass|glass@postgres.berkeley.edu Adam McDougall|mcdouga9@egr.msu.edu Adam Strohl|troll@digitalspark.net Adoal Xu|adoal@iname.com Adrian Colley|aecolley@ois.ie Adrian Hall|ahall@mirapoint.com Adrian Mariano|adrian@cam.cornell.edu Adrian Steinmann|ast@marabu.ch Adrian T. 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Christian Gusenbauer|cg@scotty.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at Dima Sivachenko|dima@Chg.RU Dirk Keunecke|dk@panda.rhein-main.de Dirk Meyer|dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org Dirk Nehrling|nerle@pdv.de Dishanker Rajakulendren|draj@oceanfree.net Dmitry Khrustalev|dima@xyzzy.machaon.ru Dmitry Kohmanyuk|dk@farm.org Dom Mitchell|dom@myrddin.demon.co.uk Domas Mituzas|midom@dammit.lt Dominik Brettnacher|domi@saargate.de Dominik Rothert|dr@domix.de Don Croyle|croyle@gelemna.ft-wayne.in.us &a.whiteside;| Don Morrison|dmorrisn@u.washington.edu Don Yuniskis|dgy@rtd.com Donald Maddox|dmaddox@conterra.com Doug Barton|Doug@gorean.org Douglas Ambrisko|ambrisko@whistle.com Douglas Carmichael|dcarmich@mcs.com Douglas Crosher|dtc@scrooge.ee.swin.oz.au Drew Derbyshire|ahd@kew.com Duncan Barclay|dmlb@ragnet.demon.co.uk Dustin Sallings|dustin@spy.net Eckart "Isegrim" Hofmann|Isegrim@Wunder-Nett.org Ed Gold|vegold01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu Ed Hudson|elh@p5.spnet.com Edward Chuang|edwardc@firebird.org.tw Edward Wang|edward@edcom.com Edwin Groothus|edwin@nwm.wan.philips.com Edwin Mons|e@ik.nu Ege Rekk|aagero@aage.priv.no Eiji-usagi-MATSUmoto|usagi@clave.gr.jp Eike Bernhardt|eike.bernhardt@gmx.de ELISA Font Project| Elmar Bartel|bartel@informatik.tu-muenchen.de Eoin Lawless|eoin@maths.tcd.ie Eric A. Griff|eagriff@global2000.net Eric Blood|eblood@cs.unr.edu Eric J. Haug|ejh@slustl.slu.edu Eric J. Schwertfeger|eric@cybernut.com Eric L. Hernes|erich@lodgenet.com Eric P. Scott|eps@sirius.com Eric Sprinkle|eric@ennovatenetworks.com Erich Stefan Boleyn|erich@uruk.org Erich Zigler|erich@tacni.net Erik H. Bakke|erikhb@bgnett.no Erik E. Rantapaa|rantapaa@math.umn.edu Erik H. Moe|ehm@cris.com Ernst Winter|ewinter@lobo.muc.de Espen Skoglund|esk@ira.uka.de Eugene M. Kim|astralblue@usa.net Eugene Radchenko|genie@qsar.chem.msu.su Eugeny Kuzakov|CoreDumped@coredumped.null.ru Evan Champion|evanc@synapse.net Faried Nawaz|fn@Hungry.COM Flemming Jacobsen|fj@tfs.com Fong-Ching Liaw|fong@juniper.net Francis M J Hsieh|mjshieh@life.nthu.edu.tw Frank Bartels|knarf@camelot.de Frank Chen Hsiung Chan|frankch@waru.life.nthu.edu.tw Frank Durda IV|uhclem@nemesis.lonestar.org Frank MacLachlan|fpm@n2.net Frank Nobis|fn@Radio-do.de Frank ten Wolde|franky@pinewood.nl Frank van der Linden|frank@fwi.uva.nl Frank Volf|volf@oasis.IAEhv.nl Fred Cawthorne|fcawth@jjarray.umn.edu Fred Gilham|gilham@csl.sri.com Fred Templin|templin@erg.sri.com Frederick Earl Gray|fgray@rice.edu FUJIMOTO Kensaku|fujimoto@oscar.elec.waseda.ac.jp FUJISHIMA Satsuki|k5@respo.or.jp FURUSAWA Kazuhisa|furusawa@com.cs.osakafu-u.ac.jp G. Adam Stanislav|adam@whizkidtech.net Gabor Kincses|gabor@acm.org Gabor Zahemszky|zgabor@CoDe.hu Garance A Drosehn|gad@eclipse.its.rpi.edu Gareth McCaughan|gjm11@dpmms.cam.ac.uk Gary A. Browning|gab10@griffcd.amdahl.com Gary Howland|gary@hotlava.com Gary J.|garyj@rks32.pcs.dec.com Gary Kline|kline@thought.org Gaspar Chilingarov|nightmar@lemming.acc.am Gea-Suan Lin|gsl@tpts4.seed.net.tw Geoff Rehmet|csgr@alpha.ru.ac.za Georg Wagner|georg.wagner@ubs.com Gianlorenzo Masini|masini@uniroma3.it Gianmarco Giovannelli|gmarco@giovannelli.it Gil Kloepfer Jr.|gil@limbic.ssdl.com Gilad Rom|rom_glsa@ein-hashofet.co.il Giles Lean|giles@nemeton.com.au Ginga Kawaguti|ginga@amalthea.phys.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp Giorgos Keramidas|keramida@ceid.upatras.gr Glen Foster|gfoster@gfoster.com Glenn Johnson|gljohns@bellsouth.net Godmar Back|gback@facility.cs.utah.edu Goran Hammarback|goran@astro.uu.se Gord Matzigkeit|gord@enci.ucalgary.ca Gordon Greeff|gvg@uunet.co.za Graham Wheeler|gram@cdsec.com Greg A. Woods|woods@zeus.leitch.com Greg Ansley|gja@ansley.com Greg Robinson|greg@rosevale.com.au Greg Troxel|gdt@ir.bbn.com Greg Ungerer|gerg@stallion.oz.au Gregory Bond|gnb@itga.com.au Gregory D. Moncreaff|moncrg@bt340707.res.ray.com Guy Harris|guy@netapp.com Guy Helmer|ghelmer@cs.iastate.edu HAMADA Naoki|hamada@astec.co.jp Hannu Savolainen|hannu@voxware.pp.fi Hans Huebner|hans@artcom.de Hans Petter Bieker|zerium@webindex.no Hans Zuidam|hans@brandinnovators.com Harlan Stenn|Harlan.Stenn@pfcs.com Harold Barker|hbarker@dsms.com Havard Eidnes|Havard.Eidnes@runit.sintef.no Heikki Suonsivu|hsu@cs.hut.fi Heiko W. Rupp|unknown Helmut F. Wirth|hfwirth@ping.at Henrik Vestergaard Draboel|hvd@terry.ping.dk Herb Peyerl|hpeyerl@NetBSD.org Hideaki Ohmon|ohmon@tom.sfc.keio.ac.jp Hidekazu Kuroki|hidekazu@cs.titech.ac.jp Hideki Yamamoto|hyama@acm.org Hideyuki Suzuki|hideyuki@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp Hirayama Issei|iss@mail.wbs.ne.jp Hiroaki Sakai|sakai@miya.ee.kagu.sut.ac.jp Hiroharu Tamaru|tamaru@ap.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp Hironori Ikura|hikura@kaisei.org Hiroshi Nishikawa|nis@pluto.dti.ne.jp Hiroya Tsubakimoto|unknown Holger Lamm|holger@eit.uni-kl.de Holger Veit|Holger.Veit@gmd.de Holm Tiffe|holm@geophysik.tu-freiberg.de HONDA Yasuhiro|honda@kashio.info.mie-u.ac.jp Horance Chou|horance@freedom.ie.cycu.edu.tw Horihiro Kumagai|kuma@jp.FreeBSD.org HOSOBUCHI Noriyuki|hoso@buchi.tama.or.jp HOTARU-YA|hotaru@tail.net Hr.Ladavac|lada@ws2301.gud.siemens.co.at Hubert Feyrer|hubertf@NetBSD.ORG Hugh F. Mahon|hugh@nsmdserv.cnd.hp.com Hugh Mahon|h_mahon@fc.hp.com Hung-Chi Chu|hcchu@r350.ee.ntu.edu.tw Ian Dowse|iedowse@maths.tcd.ie Ian Holland|ianh@tortuga.com.au Ian Struble|ian@broken.net Ian Vaudrey|i.vaudrey@bigfoot.com Igor Khasilev|igor@jabber.paco.odessa.ua Igor Roshchin|str@giganda.komkon.org Igor Sviridov|siac@ua.net Igor Vinokurov|igor@zynaps.ru Ikuo Nakagawa|ikuo@isl.intec.co.jp Ilia Chipitsine|ilia@jane.cgu.chel.su Ilya V. Komarov|mur@lynx.ru IMAI Takeshi|take-i@ceres.dti.ne.jp IMAMURA Tomoaki|tomoak-i@is.aist-nara.ac.jp Issei Suzuki|issei@jp.FreeBSD.org Itsuro Saito|saito@miv.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp IWASHITA Yoji|shuna@pop16.odn.ne.jp J. Bryant|jbryant@argus.flash.net J. David Lowe|lowe@saturn5.com J. Han|hjh@photino.com J. Hawk|jhawk@MIT.EDU J.T. Conklin|jtc@cygnus.com J.T. Jang|keith@email.gcn.net.tw Jack|jack@zeus.xtalwind.net Jacob Bohn Lorensen|jacob@jblhome.ping.mk Jagane D Sundar|jagane@netcom.com Jake Hamby|jehamby@lightside.com James Clark|jjc@jclark.com James D. Stewart|jds@c4systm.com James da Silva|jds@cs.umd.edu James Housley|jim@thehousleys.net James Jegers|jimj@miller.cs.uwm.edu James Raynard|fhackers@jraynard.demon.co.uk James T. Liu|jtliu@phlebas.rockefeller.edu Jamie Heckford|jamie@jamiesdomain.co.uk Jan Conard|charly@fachschaften.tu-muenchen.de Jan Koum|jkb@FreeBSD.org Janick Taillandier|Janick.Taillandier@ratp.fr Janusz Kokot|janek@gaja.ipan.lublin.pl Jarle Greipsland|jarle@idt.unit.no Jason Garman|init@risen.org Jason Thorpe|thorpej@NetBSD.org Jason Wright|jason@OpenBSD.org Jason Young|doogie@forbidden-donut.anet-stl.com Javier Martin Rueda|jmrueda@diatel.upm.es Jay Fenlason|hack@datacube.com Jaye Mathisen|mrcpu@cdsnet.net Jeff Bartig|jeffb@doit.wisc.edu Jeff Brown|jabrown@caida.org Jeff Forys|jeff@forys.cranbury.nj.us Jeff Kletsky|Jeff@Wagsky.com Jeff Palmer|jeff@isni.net Jeffrey Evans|evans@scnc.k12.mi.us Jeffrey Wheat|jeff@cetlink.net Jens Schweikhardt|schweikh@noc.dfn.d Jeremy Allison|jallison@whistle.com Jeremy Chadwick|yoshi@parodius.com Jeremy Chatfield|jdc@xinside.com Jeremy Prior|unknown Jeremy Shaffner|jeremy@external.org Jesse Rosenstock|jmr@ugcs.caltech.edu Jian-Da Li|jdli@csie.nctu.edu.tw Jim Babb|babb@FreeBSD.org Jim Binkley|jrb@cs.pdx.edu Jim Bloom|bloom@acm.org Jim Carroll|jim@carroll.com Jim Flowers|jflowers@ezo.net Jim Leppek|jleppek@harris.com Jim Lowe|james@cs.uwm.edu Jim Mattson|jmattson@sonic.net Jim Mercer|jim@komodo.reptiles.org Jim Sloan|odinn@atlantabiker.net Jim Wilson|wilson@moria.cygnus.com Jimbo Bahooli|griffin@blackhole.iceworld.org Jin Guojun|jin@george.lbl.gov Joachim Kuebart|kuebart@mathematik.uni-ulm.de Joao Carlos Mendes Luis|jonny@jonny.eng.br Jochen Pohl|jpo.drs@sni.de Joe "Marcus" Clarke|marcus@miami.edu Joe Abley|jabley@clear.co.nz Joe Jih-Shian Lu|jslu@dns.ntu.edu.tw Joe Orthoefer|j_orthoefer@tia.net Joe Traister|traister@mojozone.org Joel Faedi|Joel.Faedi@esial.u-nancy.fr Joel Ray Holveck|joelh@gnu.org Joel Sutton|jsutton@bbcon.com.au Joseph Scott|joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu Johan Granlund|johan@granlund.nu Johan Karlsson|k@numeri.campus.luth.se Johan Larsson|johan@moon.campus.luth.se Johann Tonsing|jtonsing@mikom.csir.co.za Johannes Helander|unknown Johannes Stille|unknown John Beckett|jbeckett@southern.edu John Beukema|jbeukema@hk.super.net John Brezak|unknown John Capo|jc@irbs.com John F. Woods|jfw@jfwhome.funhouse.com John Goerzen|jgoerzen@alexanderwohl.complete.org John Hay|jhay@mikom.csir.co.za John Heidemann|johnh@isi.edu John Hood|cgull@owl.org John Kohl|unknown John Lind|john@starfire.mn.org John Mackin|john@physiol.su.oz.au John P|johnp@lodgenet.com John Perry|perry@vishnu.alias.net John Preisler|john@vapornet.com John Rochester|jr@cs.mun.ca John Sadler|john_sadler@alum.mit.edu John Saunders|john@pacer.nlc.net.au John Wehle|john@feith.com John Woods|jfw@eddie.mit.edu Jon Morgan|morgan@terminus.trailblazer.com Jonathan H N Chin|jc254@newton.cam.ac.uk Jonathan Hanna|jh@pc-21490.bc.rogers.wave.ca Jorge Goncalves|j@bug.fe.up.pt Jorge M. Goncalves|ee96199@tom.fe.up.pt Jos Backus|jbackus@plex.nl Jose M. Alcaide|jose@we.lc.ehu.es Jose Marques|jose@nobody.org Josef Grosch|jgrosch@superior.mooseriver.com Joseph Stein|joes@wstein.com Josh Gilliam|josh@quick.net Josh Tiefenbach|josh@ican.net Juergen Lock|nox@jelal.hb.north.de Juha Inkari|inkari@cc.hut.fi Jukka A. Ukkonen|jau@iki.fi Julian Assange|proff@suburbia.net Julian Coleman|j.d.coleman@ncl.ac.uk &a.jhs| Julian Jenkins|kaveman@magna.com.au Junichi Satoh|junichi@jp.FreeBSD.org Junji SAKAI|sakai@jp.FreeBSD.org Junya WATANABE|junya-w@remus.dti.ne.jp Justas|justas@mbank.lv K.Higashino|a00303@cc.hc.keio.ac.jp Kai Vorma|vode@snakemail.hut.fi Kaleb S. Keithley|kaleb@ics.com Kaneda Hiloshi|vanitas@ma3.seikyou.ne.jp Kapil Chowksey|kchowksey@hss.hns.com Karl Denninger|karl@mcs.com Karl Dietz|Karl.Dietz@triplan.com Karl Lehenbauer|karl@NeoSoft.com KATO Tsuguru|tkato@prontomail.ne.jp Kawanobe Koh|kawanobe@st.rim.or.jp Kazuhiko Kiriyama|kiri@kiri.toba-cmt.ac.jp Kees Jan Koster|kjk1@ukc.ac.uk Keith Bostic|bostic@bostic.com Keith E. Walker|unknown Keith Moore|unknown Keith Sklower|unknown Ken Hornstein|unknown Ken Key|key@cs.utk.edu Ken Mayer|kmayer@freegate.com Kenji Saito|marukun@mx2.nisiq.net Kenji Tomita|tommyk@da2.so-net.or.jp Kenneth Furge|kenneth.furge@us.endress.com Kenneth Monville|desmo@bandwidth.org Kenneth R. Westerback|krw@tcn.net Kenneth Stailey|kstailey@gnu.ai.mit.edu Kent Talarico|kent@shipwreck.tsoft.net Kent Vander Velden|graphix@iastate.edu Kentaro Inagaki|JBD01226@niftyserve.ne.jp Kevin Bracey|kbracey@art.acorn.co.uk Kevin Day|toasty@dragondata.com Kevin Lahey|kml@nas.nasa.gov Kevin Lo|kevlo@hello.com.tw Kevin Meltzer|perlguy@perlguy.com Kevin Street|street@iname.com Kevin Van Maren|vanmaren@fast.cs.utah.edu Kim Scarborough|sluggo@unknown.nu Kiril Mitev|kiril@ideaglobal.com Kiroh HARADA|kiroh@kh.rim.or.jp Klaus Herrmann|klaus.herrmann@gmx.net Klaus Klein|kleink@layla.inka.de Klaus-J. Wolf|Yanestra@t-online.de Koichi Sato|copan@ppp.fastnet.or.jp Konstantin Chuguev|Konstantin.Chuguev@dante.org.uk Kostya Lukin|lukin@okbmei.msk.su Kouichi Hirabayashi|kh@mogami-wire.co.jp Kris Dow|kris@vilnya.demon.co.uk KUNISHIMA Takeo|kunishi@c.oka-pu.ac.jp Kurt D. Zeilenga|Kurt@Boolean.NET Kurt Olsen|kurto@tiny.mcs.usu.edu L. Jonas Olsson|ljo@ljo-slip.DIALIN.CWRU.Edu Larry Altneu|larry@ALR.COM Lars Köller|Lars.Koeller@Uni-Bielefeld.DE Laurence Lopez|lopez@mv.mv.com Lee Cremeans|lcremean@tidalwave.net Leo Kim|leo@florida.sarang.net Liang Tai-hwa|avatar@www.mmlab.cse.yzu.edu.tw Lon Willett|lon%softt.uucp@math.utah.edu Louis A. Mamakos|louie@TransSys.COM Louis Mamakos|loiue@TransSys.com Lowell Gilbert|lowell@world.std.com Lucas James|Lucas.James@ldjpc.apana.org.au Lyndon Nerenberg|lyndon@orthanc.ab.ca M.C. Wong|unknown Magnus Enbom|dot@tinto.campus.luth.se Mahesh Neelakanta|mahesh@gcomm.com Makoto MATSUSHITA|matusita@jp.FreeBSD.org Makoto WATANABE|watanabe@zlab.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp Makoto YAMAKURA|makoto@pinpott.spnet.ne.jp Malte Lance|malte.lance@gmx.net MANTANI Nobutaka|nobutaka@nobutaka.com Manu Iyengar|iyengar@grunthos.pscwa.psca.com Marc Frajola|marc@dev.com Marc Ramirez|mrami@mramirez.sy.yale.edu Marc Slemko|marcs@znep.com Marc van Kempen|wmbfmk@urc.tue.nl Marc van Woerkom|van.woerkom@netcologne.de Marcin Cieslak|saper@system.pl Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira|lioux@gns.com.br Mark Andrews|unknown Mark Cammidge|mark@gmtunx.ee.uct.ac.za Mark Diekhans|markd@grizzly.com Mark Huizer|xaa@stack.nl Mark J. Taylor|mtaylor@cybernet.com Mark Knight|markk@knigma.org Mark Krentel|krentel@rice.edu Mark Mayo|markm@vmunix.com Mark Thompson|thompson@tgsoft.com Mark Tinguely|tinguely@plains.nodak.edu Mark Treacy|unknown Mark Valentine|mark@linus.demon.co.uk Markus Holmberg|saska@acc.umu.se Martin Birgmeier| Martin Blapp|blapp@attic.ch Martin Hinner|mhi@linux.gyarab.cz Martin Ibert|mib@ppe.bb-data.de Martin Kammerhofer|dada@sbox.tu-graz.ac.at Martin Minkus|diskiller@cnbinc.com Martin Renters|martin@tdc.on.ca Martti Kuparinen|martti.kuparinen@ericsson.com Masachika ISHIZUKA|ishizuka@isis.min.ntt.jp Masafumi NAKANE|max@wide.ad.jp Masahiro Sekiguchi|seki@sysrap.cs.fujitsu.co.jp Masahiro TAKEMURA|mastake@msel.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp Masanobu Saitoh|msaitoh@spa.is.uec.ac.jp Masanori Kanaoka|kana@saijo.mke.mei.co.jp Masanori Kiriake|seiken@ARGV.AC Masatoshi TAMURA|tamrin@shinzan.kuee.kyoto-u.ac.jp Mats Lofkvist|mal@algonet.se Matt Bartley|mbartley@lear35.cytex.com Matt Heckaman|matt@LUCIDA.QC.CA Matt Thomas|matt@3am-software.com Matt White|mwhite+@CMU.EDU Matthew C. Mead|mmead@Glock.COM Matthew Cashdollar|mattc@rfcnet.com Matthew Emmerton|root@gabby.gsicomp.on.ca Matthew Flatt|mflatt@cs.rice.edu Matthew Fuller|fullermd@futuresouth.com Matthew Stein|matt@bdd.net Matthew West|mwest@uct.ac.za Matthias Pfaller|leo@dachau.marco.de Matthias Scheler|tron@netbsd.org Mattias Gronlund|Mattias.Gronlund@sa.erisoft.se Mattias Pantzare|pantzer@ludd.luth.se Maurice Castro|maurice@planet.serc.rmit.edu.au Max Euston|meuston@jmrodgers.com Max Khon|fjoe@husky.iclub.nsu.ru Maxim Bolotin|max@rsu.ru Maxime Henrion|mhenrion@cybercable.fr Micha Class|michael_class@hpbbse.bbn.hp.com Michael Lucas|mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org Michael Butler|imb@scgt.oz.au Michael Butschky|butsch@computi.erols.com Michael Clay|mclay@weareb.org Michael Elbel|me@FreeBSD.org Michael Galassi|nerd@percival.rain.com Michael Hancock|michaelh@cet.co.jp Michael Hohmuth|hohmuth@inf.tu-dresden.de Michael Perlman|canuck@caam.rice.edu Michael Petry|petry@netwolf.NetMasters.com Michael Reifenberger|root@totum.plaut.de Michael Sardo|jaeger16@yahoo.com Michael Searle|searle@longacre.demon.co.uk Michael Urban|murban@tznet.com Michael Vasilenko|acid@stu.cn.ua Michal Listos|mcl@Amnesiac.123.org Michio Karl Jinbo|karl@marcer.nagaokaut.ac.jp Miguel Angel Sagreras|msagre@cactus.fi.uba.ar Mihoko Tanaka|m_tonaka@pa.yokogawa.co.jp Mika Nystrom|mika@cs.caltech.edu Mikael Hybsch|micke@dynas.se Mikael Karpberg|karpen@ocean.campus.luth.se Mike Barcroft|mike@q9media.com Mike Del|repenting@hotmail.com Mike Durian|durian@plutotech.com Mike Durkin|mdurkin@tsoft.sf-bay.org Mike E. Matsnev|mike@azog.cs.msu.su Mike Evans|mevans@candle.com Mike Grupenhoff|kashmir@umiacs.umd.edu Mike Harding|mvh@ix.netcom.com Mike Hibler|mike@marker.cs.utah.edu Mike Karels|unknown Mike McGaughey|mmcg@cs.monash.edu.au Mike Meyer|mwm@mired.org Mike Mitchell|mitchell@ref.tfs.com Mike Murphy|mrm@alpharel.com Mike Peck|mike@binghamton.edu Mike Sherwood|mike@fate.com Mike Spengler|mks@msc.edu Mikhail A. Sokolov|mishania@demos.su Mikhail Teterin|mi@aldan.ziplink.net Ming-I Hseh|PA@FreeBSD.ee.Ntu.edu.TW MITA Yoshio|mita@jp.FreeBSD.org Mitsuru Yoshida|mitsuru@riken.go.jp Monte Mitzelfelt|monte@gonefishing.org Morgan Davis|root@io.cts.com MOROHOSHI Akihiko|moro@race.u-tokyo.ac.jp Mostyn Lewis|mostyn@mrl.com Motomichi Matsuzaki|mzaki@e-mail.ne.jp Motoyuki Kasahara|m-kasahr@sra.co.jp N.G.Smith|ngs@sesame.hensa.ac.uk Nadav Eiron|nadav@barcode.co.il NAGAO Tadaaki|nagao@cs.titech.ac.jp NAKAJI Hiroyuki|nakaji@tutrp.tut.ac.jp NAKAMURA Kazushi|nkazushi@highway.or.jp NAKAMURA Motonori|motonori@econ.kyoto-u.ac.jp Nanbor Wang|nw1@cs.wustl.edu Naofumi Honda|honda@Kururu.math.sci.hokudai.ac.jp Naoki Hamada|nao@tom-yam.or.jp Narvi|narvi@haldjas.folklore.ee Nathan Ahlstrom|nrahlstr@winternet.com Nathan Dorfman|nathan@rtfm.net Neal Fachan|kneel@ishiboo.com Niall Smart|rotel@indigo.ie Nick Barnes|Nick.Barnes@pobox.com Nick Handel|nhandel@NeoSoft.com Nick Hilliard|nick@foobar.org Nick Johnson|freebsd@spatula.net &a.nsayer;| Nick Williams|njw@cs.city.ac.uk Nickolay N. Dudorov|nnd@itfs.nsk.su NIIMI Satoshi|sa2c@and.or.jp Niklas Hallqvist|niklas@filippa.appli.se Nisha Talagala|nisha@cs.berkeley.edu No Name|adrian@virginia.edu No Name|alex@elvisti.kiev.ua No Name|anto@netscape.net No Name|bobson@egg.ics.nitch.ac.jp No Name|bovynf@awe.be No Name|burg@is.ge.com No Name|chris@gnome.co.uk No Name|colsen@usa.net No Name|coredump@nervosa.com No Name|dannyman@arh0300.urh.uiuc.edu No Name|davids@SECNET.COM No Name|derek@free.org No Name|devet@adv.IAEhv.nl No Name|djv@bedford.net No Name|dvv@sprint.net No Name|enami@ba2.so-net.or.jp No Name|flash@eru.tubank.msk.su No Name|flash@hway.ru No Name|fn@pain.csrv.uidaho.edu No Name|frf@xocolatl.com No Name|gclarkii@netport.neosoft.com No Name|gordon@sheaky.lonestar.org No Name|graaf@iae.nl No Name|greg@greg.rim.or.jp No Name|grossman@cygnus.com No Name|gusw@fub46.zedat.fu-berlin.de No Name|hfir@math.rochester.edu No Name|hnokubi@yyy.or.jp No Name|iaint@css.tuu.utas.edu.au No Name|invis@visi.com No Name|ishisone@sra.co.jp No Name|iverson@lionheart.com No Name|jpt@magic.net No Name|junker@jazz.snu.ac.kr No Name|k-sugyou@ccs.mt.nec.co.jp No Name|kenji@reseau.toyonaka.osaka.jp No Name|kfurge@worldnet.att.net No Name|lh@aus.org No Name|lhecking@nmrc.ucc.ie No Name|mrgreen@mame.mu.oz.au No Name|nakagawa@jp.FreeBSD.org No Name|ohki@gssm.otsuka.tsukuba.ac.jp No Name|owaki@st.rim.or.jp No Name|pechter@shell.monmouth.com No Name|pete@pelican.pelican.com No Name|pritc003@maroon.tc.umn.edu No Name|risner@stdio.com No Name|roman@rpd.univ.kiev.ua No Name|root@ns2.redline.ru No Name|root@uglabgw.ug.cs.sunysb.edu No Name|stephen.ma@jtec.com.au No Name|sumii@is.s.u-tokyo.ac.jp No Name|takas-su@is.aist-nara.ac.jp No Name|tamone@eig.unige.ch No Name|tjevans@raleigh.ibm.com No Name|tony-o@iij.ad.jp amurai@spec.co.jp No Name|torii@tcd.hitachi.co.jp No Name|uenami@imasy.or.jp No Name|uhlar@netlab.sk No Name|vode@hut.fi No Name|wlloyd@mpd.ca No Name|wlr@furball.wellsfargo.com No Name|wmbfmk@urc.tue.nl No Name|yamagata@nwgpc.kek.jp No Name|ziggy@ryan.org No Name|ZW6T-KND@j.asahi-net.or.jp Nobuhiro Yasutomi|nobu@psrc.isac.co.jp Nobuyuki Koganemaru|kogane@koganemaru.co.jp NOKUBI Hirotaka|h-nokubi@yyy.or.jp Norio Suzuki|nosuzuki@e-mail.ne.jp Noritaka Ishizumi|graphite@jp.FreeBSD.org Noriyuki Soda|soda@sra.co.jp OKAZAKI Tetsurou|okazaki@be.to Oddbjorn Steffenson|oddbjorn@tricknology.org Oh Junseon|hollywar@mail.holywar.net Olaf Wagner|wagner@luthien.in-berlin.de Oleg Semyonov|os@altavista.net Oleg Sharoiko|os@rsu.ru Oleg V. Volkov|rover@lglobus.ru Oliver Breuninger|ob@seicom.NET Oliver Friedrichs|oliver@secnet.com Oliver Fromme|oliver.fromme@heim3.tu-clausthal.de Oliver Helmling|oliver.helmling@stud.uni-bayreuth.de Oliver Laumann|net@informatik.uni-bremen.de Oliver Oberdorf|oly@world.std.com Olof Johansson|offe@ludd.luth.se Osokin Sergey aka oZZ|ozz@FreeBSD.org.ru Pace Willisson|pace@blitz.com Paco Rosich|rosich@modico.eleinf.uv.es Palle Girgensohn|girgen@partitur.se Parag Patel|parag@cgt.com Pascal Pederiva|pascal@zuo.dec.com Pasvorn Boonmark|boonmark@juniper.net Patrick Bihan-Faou|patrick@mindstep.com Patrick Hausen|unknown Patrick Seal|patseal@hyperhost.net Paul Antonov|apg@demos.su Paul F. Werkowski|unknown Paul Fox|pgf@foxharp.boston.ma.us Paul Koch|koch@thehub.com.au Paul Kranenburg|pk@NetBSD.org Paul M. Lambert|plambert@plambert.net Paul Mackerras|paulus@cs.anu.edu.au Paul Popelka|paulp@uts.amdahl.com Paul S. LaFollette, Jr.|unknown Paul Sandys|myj@nyct.net Paul T. Root|proot@horton.iaces.com Paul Vixie|paul@vix.com Paulo Menezes|paulo@isr.uc.pt Paulo Menezes|pm@dee.uc.pt Pedro A M Vazquez|vazquez@IQM.Unicamp.BR Pedro Giffuni|giffunip@asme.org Pete Bentley|pete@demon.net Peter Childs|pjchilds@imforei.apana.org.au Peter Cornelius|pc@inr.fzk.de Peter Haight|peterh@prognet.com Peter Jeremy|perer.jeremy@alcatel.com.au Peter M. Chen|pmchen@eecs.umich.edu Peter Much|peter@citylink.dinoex.sub.org Peter Olsson|unknown Peter Philipp|pjp@bsd-daemon.net Peter Stubbs|PETERS@staidan.qld.edu.au Peter van Heusden|pvh@egenetics.com Phil Maker|pjm@cs.ntu.edu.au Phil Sutherland|philsuth@mycroft.dialix.oz.au Phil Taylor|phil@zipmail.co.uk Philip Musumeci|philip@rmit.edu.au Philippe Lefebvre|nemesis@balistik.net Pierre Y. Dampure|pierre.dampure@k2c.co.uk Pius Fischer|pius@ienet.com Pomegranate|daver@flag.blackened.net Powerdog Industries|kevin.ruddy@powerdog.com Priit Järv|priit@cc.ttu.ee R Joseph Wright|rjoseph@mammalia.org R. Kym Horsell| Ralf Friedl|friedl@informatik.uni-kl.de Randal S. Masutani|randal@comtest.com Randall Hopper|rhh@ct.picker.com Randall W. Dean|rwd@osf.org Randy Bush|rbush@bainbridge.verio.net Reinier Bezuidenhout|rbezuide@mikom.csir.co.za Remy Card|Remy.Card@masi.ibp.fr Ricardas Cepas|rch@richard.eu.org Riccardo Veraldi|veraldi@cs.unibo.it Rich Wood|rich@FreeBSD.org.uk Richard Henderson|richard@atheist.tamu.edu Richard Hwang|rhwang@bigpanda.com Richard Kiss|richard@homemail.com Richard J Kuhns|rjk@watson.grauel.com Richard M. Neswold|rneswold@drmemory.fnal.gov Richard Seaman, Jr.|dick@tar.com Richard Stallman|rms@gnu.ai.mit.edu Richard Straka|straka@user1.inficad.com Richard Tobin|richard@cogsci.ed.ac.uk Richard Wackerbarth|rkw@Dataplex.NET Richard Winkel|rich@math.missouri.edu Richard Wiwatowski|rjwiwat@adelaide.on.net Rick Macklem|rick@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca Rick Macklin|unknown Rob Austein|sra@epilogue.com Rob Mallory|rmallory@qualcomm.com Rob Snow|rsnow@txdirect.net Robert Crowe|bob@speakez.com Robert D. Thrush|rd@phoenix.aii.com Robert Eckardt|roberte@MEP.Ruhr-Uni-Bochum.de Robert Sanders|rsanders@mindspring.com Robert Sexton|robert@kudra.com Robert Shady|rls@id.net Robert Swindells|swindellsr@genrad.co.uk Robert Withrow|witr@rwwa.com Robert Yoder|unknown Robin Carey|robin@mailgate.dtc.rankxerox.co.uk Rod Taylor|rod@idiotswitch.org Roger Hardiman|roger@cs.strath.ac.uk Roland Jesse|jesse@cs.uni-magdeburg.de Roman Shterenzon|roman@xpert.com Ron Bickers|rbickers@intercenter.net Ron Lenk|rlenk@widget.xmission.com Ronald Kuehn|kuehn@rz.tu-clausthal.de Rudolf Cejka|cejkar@dcse.fee.vutbr.cz Ruslan Belkin|rus@home2.UA.net Ruslan Shevchenko|rssh@cam.grad.kiev.ua Russell L. Carter|rcarter@pinyon.org Russell Vincent|rv@groa.uct.ac.za Ryan Younce|ryany@pobox.com Sakai Hiroaki|sakai@miya.ee.kagu.sut.ac.jp Sakari Jalovaara|sja@tekla.fi Sam Hartman|hartmans@mit.edu Samuel Lam|skl@ScalableNetwork.com Samuel Tardieu|sam@inf.enst.fr Samuele Zannoli|zannoli@cs.unibo.it Sander Janssen|janssen@rendo.dekooi.nl Sander Vesik|sander@haldjas.folklore.ee Sandro Sigala|ssigala@globalnet.it SANETO Takanori|sanewo@strg.sony.co.jp SASAKI Shunsuke|ele@pop17.odn.ne.jp Sascha Blank|blank@fox.uni-trier.de Sascha Wildner|swildner@channelz.GUN.de Satoh Junichi|junichi@astec.co.jp SAWADA Mizuki|miz@qb3.so-net.ne.jp Scot Elliott|scot@poptart.org Scot W. Hetzel|hetzels@westbend.net Scott A. Kenney|saken@rmta.ml.org Scott A. Moberly|smoberly@xavier.dyndns.org Scott Blachowicz|scott.blachowicz@seaslug.org Scott Burris|scott@pita.cns.ucla.edu Scott Hazen Mueller|scott@zorch.sf-bay.org Scott Michel|scottm@cs.ucla.edu Scott Mitchel|scott@uk.FreeBSD.org Scott Reynolds|scott@clmqt.marquette.mi.us Sebastian Strollo|seb@erix.ericsson.se Serge V. Vakulenko|vak@zebub.msk.su Sergei Chechetkin|csl@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua Sergei S. Laskavy|laskavy@pc759.cs.msu.su Sergey Gershtein|sg@mplik.ru Sergey Kosyakov|ks@itp.ac.ru Sergey Potapov|sp@alkor.ru Sergey Samoyloff|gonza@techline.ru Sergey Shkonda|serg@bcs.zp.ua Sergey V.Dorokhov|svd@kbtelecom.nalnet.ru Sergio Lenzi|lenzi@bsi.com.br Shaun Courtney|shaun@emma.eng.uct.ac.za Shawn M. Carey|smcarey@mailbox.syr.edu Shigio Yamaguchi|shigio@tamacom.com Shinya Esu|esu@yk.rim.or.jp Shuichi Tanaka|stanaka@bb.mbn.or.jp Simon|simon@masi.ibp.fr Simon Burge|simonb@telstra.com.au Simon Dick|simond@irrelevant.org Simon J Gerraty|sjg@melb.bull.oz.au Simon Marlow|simonm@dcs.gla.ac.uk Simon Shapiro|shimon@simon-shapiro.org Sin'ichiro MIYATANI|siu@phaseone.co.jp Slaven Rezic|eserte@cs.tu-berlin.de Soochon Radee|slr@mitre.org Soren Dayton|csdayton@midway.uchicago.edu Soren Dossing|sauber@netcom.com Soren S. Jorvang|soren@dt.dk Stefan Bethke|stb@hanse.de Stefan Eggers|seggers@semyam.dinoco.de Stefan Moeding|s.moeding@ndh.net Stefan Petri|unknown Stefan `Sec` Zehl|sec@42.org Steinar Haug|sthaug@nethelp.no Stephane E. Potvin|sepotvin@videotron.ca Stephane Legrand|stephane@lituus.fr Stephen Clawson|sclawson@marker.cs.utah.edu Stephen F. Combs|combssf@salem.ge.com Stephen Farrell|stephen@farrell.org Stephen Hocking|sysseh@devetir.qld.gov.au Stephen J. Roznowski|sjr@home.net Stephen McKay|syssgm@devetir.qld.gov.au Stephen Melvin|melvin@zytek.com Steve Bauer|sbauer@rock.sdsmt.edu Steve Coltrin|spcoltri@unm.edu Steve Deering|unknown Steve Gerakines|steve2@genesis.tiac.net Steve Gericke|steveg@comtrol.com Steve Piette|steve@simon.chi.il.US Steve Schwarz|schwarz@alpharel.com Steven G. Kargl|kargl@troutmask.apl.washington.edu Steven H. Samorodin|samorodi@NUXI.com Steven McCanne|mccanne@cs.berkeley.edu Steven Plite|splite@purdue.edu Steven Wallace|unknown Stijn Hoop|stijn@win.tue.nl Stuart Henderson|stuart@internationalschool.co.uk Sue Blake|sue@welearn.com.au Sugimoto Sadahiro|ixtl@komaba.utmc.or.jp SUGIMURA Takashi|sugimura@jp.FreeBSD.org Sugiura Shiro|ssugiura@duo.co.jp Sujal Patel|smpatel@wam.umd.edu Sungman Cho|smcho@tsp.korea.ac.kr Sune Stjerneby|stjerneby@usa.net SURANYI Peter|suranyip@jks.is.tsukuba.ac.jp Suzuki Yoshiaki|zensyo@ann.tama.kawasaki.jp Tadashi Kumano|kumano@strl.nhk.or.jp Taguchi Takeshi|taguchi@tohoku.iij.ad.jp Takahiro Yugawa|yugawa@orleans.rim.or.jp Takashi Mega|mega@minz.org Takashi Uozu|j1594016@ed.kagu.sut.ac.jp Takayuki Ariga|a00821@cc.hc.keio.ac.jp Takeru NAIKI|naiki@bfd.es.hokudai.ac.jp Takeshi Amaike|amaike@iri.co.jp Takeshi MUTOH|mutoh@info.nara-k.ac.jp Takeshi Ohashi|ohashi@mickey.ai.kyutech.ac.jp Takeshi WATANABE|watanabe@crayon.earth.s.kobe-u.ac.jp Takuya SHIOZAKI|tshiozak@makino.ise.chuo-u.ac.jp Tatoku Ogaito|tacha@tera.fukui-med.ac.jp Ted Buswell|tbuswell@mediaone.net Ted Faber|faber@isi.edu Ted Lemon|mellon@isc.org Terry Lambert|terry@lambert.org Terry Lee|terry@uivlsi.csl.uiuc.edu Tetsuya Furukawa|tetsuya@secom-sis.co.jp Theo de Raadt|deraadt@OpenBSD.org Thomas|thomas@mathematik.uni-Bremen.de Thomas D. Dean|tomdean@ix.netcom.com Thomas David Rivers|rivers@dignus.com Thomas G. McWilliams|tgm@netcom.com Thomas Graichen|graichen@omega.physik.fu-berlin.de Thomas König|Thomas.Koenig@ciw.uni-karlsruhe.de Thomas Ptacek|unknown Thomas Quinot|thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org Thomas A. Stephens|tas@stephens.org Thomas Stromberg|tstrombe@rtci.com Thomas Valentino Crimi|tcrimi+@andrew.cmu.edu Thomas Wintergerst|thomas@lemur.nord.de Þórður Ívarsson|totii@est.is Timothy Jensen|toast@blackened.com Tim Kientzle|kientzle@netcom.com Tim Singletary|tsingle@sunland.gsfc.nasa.gov Tim Wilkinson|tim@sarc.city.ac.uk Timo J. Rinne|tri@iki.fi Tobias Reifenberger|treif@mayn.de Todd Miller|millert@openbsd.org Tom|root@majestix.cmr.no Tom|tom@sdf.com Tom Gray - DCA|dcasba@rain.org Tom Jobbins|tom@tom.tj Tom Pusateri|pusateri@juniper.net Tom Rush|tarush@mindspring.com Tom Samplonius|tom@misery.sdf.com Tomohiko Kurahashi|kura@melchior.q.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp Tony Kimball|alk@Think.COM Tony Li|tli@jnx.com Tony Lynn|wing@cc.nsysu.edu.tw Tony Maher|Tony.Maher@eBioinformatics.com Torbjorn Granlund|tege@matematik.su.se Toshihiko SHIMOKAWA|toshi@tea.forus.or.jp Toshihiro Kanda|candy@kgc.co.jp Toshiomi Moriki|Toshiomi.Moriki@ma1.seikyou.ne.jp Trefor S.|trefor@flevel.co.uk Trevor Blackwell|tlb@viaweb.com Trevor Johnson|trevor@jpj.net Udo Schweigert|ust@cert.siemens.de Ugo Paternostro|paterno@dsi.unifi.it Ulf Kieber|kieber@sax.de Ulli Linzen|ulli@perceval.camelot.de URATA Shuichiro|s-urata@nmit.tmg.nec.co.jp Ustimenko Semen|semen@iclub.nsu.ru Uwe Arndt|arndt@mailhost.uni-koblenz.de Vadim Chekan|vadim@gc.lviv.ua Vadim Kolontsov|vadim@tversu.ac.ru Vadim Mikhailov|mvp@braz.ru Valentin Nechayev|netch@lucky.net Van Jacobson|van@ee.lbl.gov Vasily V. Grechishnikov|bazilio@ns1.ied-vorstu.ac.ru Vasim Valejev|vasim@uddias.diaspro.com Vernon J. Schryver|vjs@mica.denver.sgi.com Vic Abell|abe@cc.purdue.edu Ville Eerola|ve@sci.fi Vince Valenti|vince@blue-box.net Vincent Poy|vince@venus.gaianet.net Vincenzo Capuano|VCAPUANO@vmprofs.esoc.esa.de Virgil Champlin|champlin@pa.dec.com Vladimir A. Jakovenko|vovik@ntu-kpi.kiev.ua Vladimir Kushnir|kushn@mail.kar.net Vsevolod Lobko|seva@alex-ua.com W. Gerald Hicks|wghicks@bellsouth.net W. Richard Stevens|rstevens@noao.edu Walt Howard|howard@ee.utah.edu Walt M. Shandruk|walt@erudition.net Warren Toomey|wkt@csadfa.cs.adfa.oz.au Wayne Scott|wscott@ichips.intel.com Werner Griessl|werner@btp1da.phy.uni-bayreuth.de Wes Santee|wsantee@wsantee.oz.net Wietse Venema|wietse@wzv.win.tue.nl Wiljo Heinen|wiljo@freeside.ki.open.de Willem Jan Withagen|wjw@surf.IAE.nl William Jolitz|withheld William Liao|william@tale.net Wojtek Pilorz|wpilorz@celebris.bdk.lublin.pl Wolfgang Helbig|helbig@ba-stuttgart.de Wolfgang Solfrank|ws@tools.de Wolfgang Stanglmeier|wolf@FreeBSD.org Wu Ching-hong|woju@FreeBSD.ee.Ntu.edu.TW Yarema|yds@ingress.com Yaroslav Terletsky|ts@polynet.lviv.ua Yasuhiro Fukama|yasuf@big.or.jp Yasuhito FUTATSUKI|futatuki@fureai.or.jp Yen-Ming Lee|leeym@bsd.ce.ntu.edu.tw Yen-Shuo Su|yssu@CCCA.NCTU.edu.tw Yin-Jieh Chen|yinjieh@Crazyman.Dorm13.NCTU.edu.tw Ying-Chieh Liao|ijliao@csie.NCTU.edu.tw Yixin Jin|yjin@rain.cs.ucla.edu Yoichi Asai|yatt@msc.biglobe.ne.jp Yoshiaki Uchikawa|yoshiaki@kt.rim.or.jp Yoshihiko SARUMRU|mistral@imasy.or.jp Yoshihisa NAKAGAWA|y-nakaga@ccs.mt.nec.co.jp Yoshikazu Goto|gotoh@ae.anritsu.co.jp Yoshimasa Ohnishi|ohnishi@isc.kyutech.ac.jp Yoshishige Arai|ryo2@on.rim.or.jp Yuichi MATSUTAKA|matutaka@osa.att.ne.jp Yujiro MIYATA|miyata@bioele.nuee.nagoya-u.ac.jp Yu-Shun Wang|yushunwa@isi.edu Yusuke Nawano|azuki@azkey.org Yuu Yashiki|s974123@cc.matsuyama-u.ac.jp Yuuki SAWADA|mami@whale.cc.muroran-it.ac.jp Yuuichi Narahara|aconitum@po.teleway.ne.jp Yuval Yarom|yval@cs.huji.ac.il Yves Fonk|yves@cpcoup5.tn.tudelft.nl Yves Fonk|yves@dutncp8.tn.tudelft.nl Zach Heilig|zach@gaffaneys.com Zach Zurflu|zach@pabst.bendnet.com Zahemszhky Gabor|zgabor@code.hu Zhong Ming-Xun|zmx@mail.CDPA.nsysu.edu.tw --nFreZHaLTZJo0R7j-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 28 18:20:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D20D37B424 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 18:20:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA86838; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 18:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-149-77.mmcable.com [24.27.149.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 91DB237B423 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 18:13:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 87572 invoked by uid 100); 29 Sep 2000 01:13:32 -0000 Message-Id: <20000929011332.87571.qmail@guru.mired.org> Date: 29 Sep 2000 01:13:32 -0000 From: mwm@mired.org Reply-To: mwm@mired.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/21635: the splash(4) man page refers to /modules! Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 21635 >Category: docs >Synopsis: the splash(4) man page refers to /modules! >Confidential: yes >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Sep 28 18:20:00 PDT 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mike Meyer >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: Meyer Consulting >Environment: -current as of 9/22/0. >Description: The files section of the splash(4) man page lists /modules/. >How-To-Repeat: $ man splash >Fix: Here's the patch for the man page. bash-2.04$ diff -u splash.4-orig splash.4 --- splash.4-orig Thu Sep 28 20:12:04 2000 +++ splash.4 Thu Sep 28 20:12:42 2000 @@ -159,16 +159,16 @@ section above. .\".Sh DRIVER CONFIGURATION .Sh FILES -.Bl -tag -width /modules/splash_xxxx.ko -compact +.Bl -tag -width /boot/kernel/splash_xxxx.ko -compact .It /boot/defaults/loader.conf boot loader configuration defaults .It /etc/rc.conf system configuration information -.It /modules/splash_*.ko +.It /boot/kernel/splash_*.ko splash image decoder modules -.It /modules/*_saver.ko +.It /boot/kernel/*_saver.ko screen saver modules -.It /modules/vesa.ko +.It /boot/kernel/vesa.ko the VESA support module .El .Sh EXAMPLE >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 28 18:55: 1 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9933F37B424; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 18:54:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from marko@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id SAA01429; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 18:54:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from marko@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 18:54:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200009290154.SAA01429@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mwm@mired.org, marko@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/21635: the splash(4) man page refers to /modules! Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: the splash(4) man page refers to /modules! State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: marko State-Changed-When: Thu Sep 28 18:53:48 PDT 2000 State-Changed-Why: Committed. Thanks!! (also changed Confidential yes -> no) http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=21635 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 28 19:10:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3432837B42C for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:10:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA09633; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:10:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200009290210.TAA09633@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Daniel Harris Subject: Re: docs/21539: Installing ports from the Internet through a firewall, handbook 4.2.1.2 Reply-To: Daniel Harris Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/21539; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Daniel Harris To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org, drj@zoonami.com Cc: Subject: Re: docs/21539: Installing ports from the Internet through a firewall, handbook 4.2.1.2 Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 22:04:24 -0400 If I'm not mistaken passive mode has been the default since 4.0-RELEASE. -- Daniel Harris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 28 19:20:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-149-77.mmcable.com [24.27.149.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 728B937B42C for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:13:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 88958 invoked by uid 100); 29 Sep 2000 02:13:41 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14803.64213.200604.102284@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 21:13:41 -0500 (CDT) To: marko@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/21635: the splash(4) man page refers to /modules! In-Reply-To: <200009290154.SAA01429@freefall.freebsd.org> References: <200009290154.SAA01429@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org marko@FreeBSD.org writes: > Synopsis: the splash(4) man page refers to /modules! > > State-Changed-From-To: open->closed > State-Changed-By: marko > State-Changed-When: Thu Sep 28 18:53:48 PDT 2000 > State-Changed-Why: > Committed. Thanks!! > (also changed Confidential yes -> no) Actually, it would have been nice if you'd asked about that, but thank you for both fixing it and committing the change. I think the pr form may need some work in that area - I've noticed more than once that I set it confidential to "yes" when I never really have a problem with that. The first entry is to easy to hit.... another pr on the way. Message-Id: <200009290215.TAA12390@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sziszi@petra.hos.u-szeged.hu, dannyboy@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/21569: Add Hungarian CVSup server to the Handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Add Hungarian CVSup server to the Handbook State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dannyboy State-Changed-When: Thu Sep 28 19:13:35 PDT 2000 State-Changed-Why: It's made it into the handbook already. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=21569 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 28 19:23:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82DB337B629; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:19:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from dannyboy@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id TAA14216; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:19:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dannyboy@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 19:19:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200009290219.TAA14216@freefall.freebsd.org> To: drj@zoonami.com, dannyboy@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/21539: Installing ports from the Internet through a firewall, handbook 4.2.1.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Installing ports from the Internet through a firewall, handbook 4.2.1.2 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: dannyboy State-Changed-When: Thu Sep 28 19:17:43 PDT 2000 State-Changed-Why: Using out-of-box settings a user of the current -STABLE technology shouldn't run into this. Mail to the originator bounced with 550 User unknown. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=21539 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 28 20:36:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ice.cream.org (ice.cream.org [195.8.71.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E2E5A37B42C for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 20:36:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3240 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2000 03:35:59 -0000 Received: from ice.cream.org (HELO cream.org) (195.8.71.30) by ice.cream.org with SMTP; 29 Sep 2000 03:35:59 -0000 Content-Length: 2092 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.3 [p0] on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 04:36:14 +0100 (BST) From: Andrew Boothman To: "Jason C. Wells" Subject: Re: Assessing Search Engine Issues Cc: core@freebsd.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Nik Clayton Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 28-Sep-00 Jason C. Wells wrote: > On Thu, 28 Sep 2000, Nik Clayton wrote: >> On Wed, Sep 27, 2000 at 10:18:50AM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote: > >> It might do, if the benefits outweigh the costs. The cost, basically, >> is that the existing mirrors have to be able to duplicate it easily, and >> it needs to be as simple as possible to set up. That would basically >> mean putting the site infrastructure tools in to the ports tree (where >> they're not already there) and coming up with a list of 7-10 things that >> a new web mirror has to do. > > I don't think the mirrors have to change. I would rather implement a > systew where they don't. Yeah, it was my understanding that the mirrors don't currently have anything to do with searching the web site or the mail archives. I know that the form on www.uk.freebsd.org/search certainly just points back to CGI installed on www.freebsd.org Any new solution could have exactly the same interface as far as the mirrors are concerned, all they would have to do is link back to www.freebsd.org (or search.freebsd.org as Jordan suggested) as they do at present. Therefore, whatever is implemented to search the archives and web site only needs to be installed and configured once, on this central server. > In my mind all of the websites and multinational mirrors stay completely > unmolested. All of the various mail archives stay completely unmolested. > The search host merely searches and indexes and that is it. I totally agree that none of the mirrors need change anything, but if all of the searching is done by one central host why can we not change how that searching is done? And how the archive is stored? Perhaps having the entire archive in tables in a MySQL server is a good idea, because of the flexability that SQL would give us. I'm not saying that's "The Way To Go", I'm just saying that it can be implemented in any way we want. Subject to that little question of the resources that are available. Or have I completely misunderstood something? :-) --- Andrew Boothman http://sour.cream.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Sep 28 22:23: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.village.org [204.144.255.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E0A437B42C; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 22:22:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA18828; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:22:54 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.9.3/8.8.3) with ESMTP id XAA74994; Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:22:53 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <200009290522.XAA74994@harmony.village.org> To: doc@freebsd.org Cc: mdodd@freebsd.org Subject: Man page update Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:22:53 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm looking for reviews on the following changes to the ex driver man page. I'm not sure what the current state of the world here is, so I thought I'd run it by people here. Also, since ex is rarely used, I can experiment here a little bit without much impact on the rest of the system. I've added a new PCCARD section. I don't think it is formatted right, but am looking for suggestions here. Comments? Warner Index: ex.4 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/imp/FreeBSD/CVS/src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/ex.4,v retrieving revision 1.10 diff -u -r1.10 ex.4 --- ex.4 2000/05/04 17:36:20 1.10 +++ ex.4 2000/09/29 05:17:18 @@ -25,7 +25,7 @@ .\" .\" $FreeBSD: src/share/man/man4/man4.i386/ex.4,v 1.10 2000/05/04 17:36:20 archie Exp $ .\" -.Dd January 19, 1997 +.Dd September 29, 2000 .Dt EX 4 i386 .Os FreeBSD .Sh NAME @@ -33,18 +33,19 @@ .Nd Ethernet device driver for the Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 and Pro/10+ .Sh SYNOPSIS -.Cd "device ex0 at isa? port? irq ?" +.Cd "device ex" .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Nm driver provides support for the 16-bit PCI Intel EtherExpress Pro/10 and Pro/10+ Ethernet cards based on the Intel i82595 chip. +The +.Nm +driver also supports pccard based devices based on the Intel i82595 chip. .Pp If the port start address isn't found, the card will be searched for in the I/O address range 0x200 - 0x3a0. If the IRQ isn't specified, it will be -read from the EEPROM on the card. For correct operation on newer -cards the Plug-N-Play support should be disabled. -.Pp +read from the EEPROM on the card. Cards in Plug-n-Play mode are supported. .Sh DIAGNOSTICS .Bl -diag .It "ex%d: Intel EtherExpress Pro/10, address %6D, connector %s" @@ -56,7 +57,10 @@ .It "ex%d: invalid IRQ." The device probe detected an invalid IRQ setting. .El -.Pp +.Sh PCCARD SUPPORTED CARDS +.Bl -diag +.It "Olicom OC-2220" +.El .Sh BUGS Currently the driver does not support multicast. .Pp @@ -70,6 +74,8 @@ .Nm device driver first appeared in .Fx 2.2 . +Pccard support was added in +.Fx 5.0 . .Sh AUTHORS The .Nm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 29 9: 2:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from camus.cybercable.fr (camus.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 968F937B53A for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:02:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6247594 invoked from network); 29 Sep 2000 16:02:15 -0000 Received: from e003.dhcp212-138.cybercable.fr (HELO tubby8) ([212.198.138.3]) (envelope-sender ) by camus.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 29 Sep 2000 16:02:15 -0000 From: "tubby88" To: "y (E-mail)" Subject: Mir Vina Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:33:02 +0200 Message-ID: <000501c02a29$bc8607a0$1201010a@cybercable.fr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0006_01C02A3A.8017FF60" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org C'est un message de format MIME en plusieurs parties. ------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C02A3A.8017FF60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =D0=97=D0=B4=D1=80=D0=B0=D0=B2=D1=81=D1=82=D0=B2=D1=83=D0=B9=D1=82=D0=B5,= =D0=92=D0=B0=D0=BC = =D1=85=D0=BE=D1=82=D0=B5=D0=BB=D0=BE=D1=81=D1=8C =D0=B1=D1=8B = =D0=BE=D0=BA=D1=83=D0=BD=D1=83=D1=82=D1=8C=D1=81=D1=8F =D0=B2 = =D0=9C=D0=B8=D1=80 =D0=92=D0=B8=D0=BD=D0=B0? 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------=_NextPart_000_0006_01C02A3A.8017FF60-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 29 9: 6:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.nwlink.com (smtp.nwlink.com [209.20.130.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1DEF37B422 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:06:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from utah (jcwells@utah.nwlink.com [209.20.130.41]) by smtp.nwlink.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id JAA02612; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 09:19:32 -0700 (PDT) From: "Jason C. Wells" X-Sender: jcwells@utah To: Andrew Boothman Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Assessing Search Engine Issues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Andrew Boothman wrote: > Or have I completely misunderstood something? :-) Nope. I think you have it. I am trimming out -core as they were included on a single reqest. Thank you, Jason C. Wells To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Sep 29 15:51:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from jade.chc-chimes.com (jade.chc-chimes.com [216.28.46.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2128D37B503 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:51:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by jade.chc-chimes.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4439A1C76; Fri, 29 Sep 2000 18:51:24 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 18:51:24 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: [billf@chimesnet.com: REVIEW REQUEST - new ipfw options] Message-ID: <20000929185124.U38472@jade.chc-chimes.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi. I plan on committing this sometime this weekend, and would love to commit the accompanying man pages, however, as you can read below, that[the man pages] won't happen unless someone comes forward with the appropriate mdoc-fu. Thanks. -bcf PS. All you have to do is take the examples that are in the usage() printf and put them in like all the others in ipfw.8, meanings for the ipopts can be found in /usr/include/netinet/ip.h ----- Forwarded message from Bill Fumerola ----- Date: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 23:08:46 -0400 From: Bill Fumerola To: freebsd-ipfw@freebsd.org Cc: luigi@freebsd.org Subject: REVIEW REQUEST - new ipfw options [ sent to net@ and ipfw@, discussion in ipfw@ ] Please review the following patch for ipfw, adding more fields to provide the firewall administrator with a higher level of granularity. This patch also introduces a new flags member to struct ip_fw as I ran out of space in that, and I feel that splitting up things that change the operation of ipfw internally and things that define where we poke around belong in different locations. Its possible that more things now belong in the new flag member. Everything should be pretty straightforward. One thing notably absent is the diff to ipfw.8 in this patch. That's not due to incompetence with cvs, that's due to incompetence with mdoc. It should be very easy for someone with any mdoc clue to add these options in ipfw.8, and I'd ask that someone do that. Thanks, -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org ----- Forwarded message from Bill Fumerola ----- Index: ipfw.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sbin/ipfw/ipfw.c,v retrieving revision 1.89 diff -u -r1.89 ipfw.c --- ipfw.c 2000/08/16 07:36:29 1.89 +++ ipfw.c 2000/09/27 02:38:43 @@ -412,7 +412,7 @@ if (chain->fw_flg & IP_FW_F_FRAG) printf(" frag"); - if (chain->fw_ipopt || chain->fw_ipnopt) { + if (chain->fw_ipflg & IP_FW_IF_IPOPT) { int _opt_printed = 0; #define PRINTOPT(x) {if (_opt_printed) printf(",");\ printf(x); _opt_printed = 1;} @@ -428,12 +428,39 @@ if (chain->fw_ipnopt & IP_FW_IPOPT_TS) PRINTOPT("!ts"); } + if (chain->fw_ipflg & IP_FW_IF_IPLEN) + printf(" iplen %u", chain->fw_iplen); + if (chain->fw_ipflg & IP_FW_IF_IPID) + printf(" ipid 0x%04x", chain->fw_ipid); + + if (chain->fw_ipflg & IP_FW_IF_IPTOS) { + int _opt_printed = 0; + + printf(" iptos "); + if (chain->fw_iptos & IPTOS_LOWDELAY) PRINTOPT("lowdelay"); + if (chain->fw_ipntos & IPTOS_LOWDELAY) PRINTOPT("!lowdelay"); + if (chain->fw_iptos & IPTOS_THROUGHPUT) PRINTOPT("throughput"); + if (chain->fw_ipntos & IPTOS_THROUGHPUT) PRINTOPT("!throughput"); + if (chain->fw_iptos & IPTOS_RELIABILITY) PRINTOPT("reliability"); + if (chain->fw_ipntos & IPTOS_RELIABILITY) PRINTOPT("!reliability"); + if (chain->fw_iptos & IPTOS_MINCOST) PRINTOPT("mincost"); + if (chain->fw_ipntos & IPTOS_MINCOST) PRINTOPT("!mincost"); + if (chain->fw_iptos & IPTOS_CE) PRINTOPT("congestion"); + if (chain->fw_ipntos & IPTOS_CE) PRINTOPT("!congestion"); + } + + if (chain->fw_ipflg & IP_FW_IF_IPTTL) + printf(" ipttl %u", chain->fw_ipttl); + + if (chain->fw_ipflg & IP_FW_IF_IPVER) + printf(" ipversion %u", chain->fw_ipver); + if (chain->fw_tcpf & IP_FW_TCPF_ESTAB) printf(" established"); else if (chain->fw_tcpf == IP_FW_TCPF_SYN && chain->fw_tcpnf == IP_FW_TCPF_ACK) printf(" setup"); - else if (chain->fw_tcpf || chain->fw_tcpnf) { + else if (chain->fw_ipflg & IP_FW_IF_TCPOPT) { int _flg_printed = 0; #define PRINTFLG(x) {if (_flg_printed) printf(",");\ printf(x); _flg_printed = 1;} @@ -452,7 +479,7 @@ if (chain->fw_tcpf & IP_FW_TCPF_URG) PRINTFLG("urg"); if (chain->fw_tcpnf & IP_FW_TCPF_URG) PRINTFLG("!urg"); } - if (chain->fw_tcpopt || chain->fw_tcpnopt) { + if (chain->fw_ipflg & IP_FW_IF_TCPOPT) { int _opt_printed = 0; #define PRINTTOPT(x) {if (_opt_printed) printf(",");\ printf(x); _opt_printed = 1;} @@ -470,6 +497,13 @@ if (chain->fw_tcpnopt & IP_FW_TCPOPT_CC) PRINTTOPT("!cc"); } + if (chain->fw_ipflg & IP_FW_IF_TCPSEQ) + printf(" tcpseq %lu", ntohl(chain->fw_tcpseq)); + if (chain->fw_ipflg & IP_FW_IF_TCPACK) + printf(" tcpack %lu", ntohl(chain->fw_tcpack)); + if (chain->fw_ipflg & IP_FW_IF_TCPWIN) + printf(" tcpwin %hu", ntohs(chain->fw_tcpwin)); + if (chain->fw_flg & IP_FW_F_ICMPBIT) { int type_index; int first = 1; @@ -837,7 +871,15 @@ " {established|setup}\n" " tcpflags [!]{syn|fin|rst|ack|psh|urg},...\n" " ipoptions [!]{ssrr|lsrr|rr|ts},...\n" +" iplen {length}\n" +" ipid {identification number (in hex)}\n" +" iptos [!]{lowdelay|throughput|reliability|mincost|congestion}\n" +" ipttl {time to live}\n" +" ipversion {version number}\n" " tcpoptions [!]{mss|window|sack|ts|cc},...\n" +" tcpseq {sequence number}\n" +" tcpack {acknowledgement number}\n" +" tcpwin {window size}\n" " icmptypes {type[,type]}...\n" " pipeconfig:\n" " {bw|bandwidth} {bit/s|Kbit/s|Mbit/s|Bytes/s|KBytes/s|MBytes/s}\n" @@ -1148,6 +1190,40 @@ } static void +fill_iptos(u_char *set, u_char *reset, char **vp) +{ + char *p = *vp,*q; + u_char *d; + + while (p && *p) { + if (*p == '!') { + p++; + d = reset; + } else { + d = set; + } + q = strchr(p, ','); + if (q) + *q++ = '\0'; + if (!strncmp(p,"lowdelay",strlen(p))) + *d |= IPTOS_LOWDELAY; + if (!strncmp(p,"throughput",strlen(p))) + *d |= IPTOS_THROUGHPUT; + if (!strncmp(p,"reliability",strlen(p))) + *d |= IPTOS_RELIABILITY; + if (!strncmp(p,"mincost",strlen(p))) + *d |= IPTOS_MINCOST; + if (!strncmp(p,"congestion",strlen(p))) + *d |= IPTOS_CE; +#if 0 /* conflicting! */ + if (!strncmp(p,"ecntransport",strlen(p))) + *d |= IPTOS_ECT; +#endif + p = q; + } +} + +static void fill_icmptypes(types, vp, fw_flg) u_long *types; char **vp; @@ -1878,22 +1954,78 @@ rule.fw_flg |= IP_FW_F_FRAG; av++; ac--; continue; } - if (!strncmp(*av,"ipoptions",strlen(*av))) { + if (!strncmp(*av,"ipoptions",strlen(*av)) || + !strncmp(*av,"ipopts",strlen(*av))) { av++; ac--; if (!ac) show_usage("missing argument" " for ``ipoptions''"); + rule.fw_ipflg |= IP_FW_IF_IPOPT; fill_ipopt(&rule.fw_ipopt, &rule.fw_ipnopt, av); av++; ac--; continue; } + if (!strncmp(*av,"iplen",strlen(*av))) { + av++; ac--; + if (!ac) + show_usage("missing arguement" + " for ``iplen''"); + rule.fw_ipflg |= IP_FW_IF_IPLEN; + rule.fw_iplen = (u_short)strtoul(*av, NULL, 0); + av++; ac--; continue; + } + if (!strncmp(*av,"ipid",strlen(*av))) { + av++; ac--; + if (!ac) + show_usage("missing arguement" + " for ``ipid''"); + rule.fw_ipflg |= IP_FW_IF_IPID; + if (strlen(*av) != 6 || (*av)[0] != '0' || (*av)[1] != 'x' || + isxdigit((*av)[2]) == 0 || + isxdigit((*av)[3]) == 0 || + isxdigit((*av)[4]) == 0 || + isxdigit((*av)[5]) == 0) + show_usage("arguement to ipid must be in hex"); + rule.fw_ipid = (u_short)strtoul(*av, NULL, 0); + av++; ac--; continue; + } + if (!strncmp(*av,"iptos",strlen(*av))) { + av++; ac--; + if (!ac) + show_usage("missing arguement" + " for ``iptos''"); + rule.fw_ipflg |= IP_FW_IF_IPTOS; + fill_iptos(&rule.fw_iptos, &rule.fw_ipntos, av); + av++; ac--; continue; + } + if (!strncmp(*av,"ipttl",strlen(*av))) { + av++; ac--; + if (!ac) + show_usage("missing arguement" + " for ``ipttl''"); + rule.fw_ipflg |= IP_FW_IF_IPTTL; + rule.fw_ipttl = (u_short)strtoul(*av, NULL, 0); + av++; ac--; continue; + } + if (!strncmp(*av,"ipversion",strlen(*av)) || + !strncmp(*av,"ipver",strlen(*av))) { + av++; ac--; + if (!ac) + show_usage("missing arguement" + " for ``ipversion''"); + rule.fw_ipflg |= IP_FW_IF_IPVER; + rule.fw_ipver = (u_short)strtoul(*av, NULL, 0); + av++; ac--; continue; + } if (rule.fw_prot == IPPROTO_TCP) { if (!strncmp(*av,"established",strlen(*av))) { rule.fw_tcpf |= IP_FW_TCPF_ESTAB; + rule.fw_ipflg |= IP_FW_IF_TCPFLG; av++; ac--; continue; } if (!strncmp(*av,"setup",strlen(*av))) { rule.fw_tcpf |= IP_FW_TCPF_SYN; rule.fw_tcpnf |= IP_FW_TCPF_ACK; + rule.fw_ipflg |= IP_FW_IF_TCPFLG; av++; ac--; continue; } if (!strncmp(*av,"tcpflags",strlen(*av)) || !strncmp(*av,"tcpflgs",strlen(*av))) { @@ -1901,6 +2033,7 @@ if (!ac) show_usage("missing argument" " for ``tcpflags''"); + rule.fw_ipflg |= IP_FW_IF_TCPFLG; fill_tcpflag(&rule.fw_tcpf, &rule.fw_tcpnf, av); av++; ac--; continue; } @@ -1909,9 +2042,37 @@ if (!ac) show_usage("missing argument" " for ``tcpoptions''"); + rule.fw_ipflg |= IP_FW_IF_TCPOPT; fill_tcpopts(&rule.fw_tcpopt, &rule.fw_tcpnopt, av); av++; ac--; continue; } + if (!strncmp(*av,"tcpseq",strlen(*av))) { + av++; ac--; + if (!ac) + show_usage("missing arguement" + " for ``tcpseq''"); + rule.fw_ipflg |= IP_FW_IF_TCPSEQ; + rule.fw_tcpseq = htonl((u_int32_t)strtoul(*av, NULL, 0)); + av++; ac--; continue; + } + if (!strncmp(*av,"tcpack",strlen(*av))) { + av++; ac--; + if (!ac) + show_usage("missing arguement" + " for ``tcpack''"); + rule.fw_ipflg |= IP_FW_IF_TCPACK; + rule.fw_tcpack = htonl((u_int32_t)strtoul(*av, NULL, 0)); + av++; ac--; continue; + } + if (!strncmp(*av,"tcpwin",strlen(*av))) { + av++; ac--; + if (!ac) + show_usage("missing arguement" + " for ``tcpwin''"); + rule.fw_ipflg |= IP_FW_IF_TCPWIN; + rule.fw_tcpwin = htons((u_short)strtoul(*av, NULL, 0)); + av++; ac--; continue; + } } if (rule.fw_prot == IPPROTO_ICMP) { if (!strncmp(*av,"icmptypes",strlen(*av))) { Index: /sys/netinet/ip_fw.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/netinet/ip_fw.c,v retrieving revision 1.140 diff -u -r1.140 ip_fw.c --- /sys/netinet/ip_fw.c 2000/09/12 02:38:05 1.140 +++ /sys/netinet/ip_fw.c 2000/09/26 07:14:14 @@ -193,6 +193,7 @@ iface_match __P((struct ifnet *ifp, union ip_fw_if *ifu, int byname)); static int ipopts_match __P((struct ip *ip, struct ip_fw *f)); +static int iptos_match __P((struct ip *ip, struct ip_fw *f)); static __inline int port_match __P((u_short *portptr, int nports, u_short port, int range_flag, int mask)); @@ -354,6 +355,33 @@ } static int +iptos_match(struct ip *ip, struct ip_fw *f) +{ + + u_int flags = (ip->ip_tos & 0x1f); + u_char opts, nopts, nopts_sve; + + opts = f->fw_iptos; + nopts = nopts_sve = f->fw_ipntos; + + while (flags != 0) { + u_int flag; + + flag = 1 << (ffs(flags) -1); + opts &= ~flag; + nopts &= ~flag; + flags &= ~flag; + } + + if (opts == 0 && nopts == nopts_sve) + return 1; + else + return 0; + +} + + +static int tcpopts_match(struct tcphdr *tcp, struct ip_fw *f) { register u_char *cp; @@ -1108,9 +1136,19 @@ continue; } - /* Check IP options */ - if (f->fw_ipopt != f->fw_ipnopt && !ipopts_match(ip, f)) + /* Check IP header values */ + if (f->fw_ipflg & IP_FW_IF_IPOPT && !ipopts_match(ip, f)) + continue; + if (f->fw_ipflg & IP_FW_IF_IPLEN && f->fw_iplen != ip->ip_len) + continue; + if (f->fw_ipflg & IP_FW_IF_IPID && f->fw_ipid != ip->ip_id) continue; + if (f->fw_ipflg & IP_FW_IF_IPTOS && !iptos_match(ip, f)) + continue; + if (f->fw_ipflg & IP_FW_IF_IPTTL && f->fw_ipttl != ip->ip_ttl) + continue; + if (f->fw_ipflg & IP_FW_IF_IPVER && f->fw_ipver != ip->ip_v) + continue; /* Check protocol; if wildcard, and no [ug]id, match */ if (f->fw_prot == IPPROTO_IP) { @@ -1211,9 +1249,15 @@ } tcp = (struct tcphdr *) ((u_int32_t *)ip + ip->ip_hl); - if (f->fw_tcpopt != f->fw_tcpnopt && !tcpopts_match(tcp, f)) + if (f->fw_ipflg & IP_FW_IF_TCPOPT && !tcpopts_match(tcp, f)) + continue; + if (f->fw_ipflg & IP_FW_IF_TCPFLG && !tcpflg_match(tcp, f)) + continue; + if (f->fw_ipflg & IP_FW_IF_TCPSEQ && tcp->th_seq != f->fw_tcpseq) + continue; + if (f->fw_ipflg & IP_FW_IF_TCPACK && tcp->th_ack != f->fw_tcpack) continue; - if (f->fw_tcpf != f->fw_tcpnf && !tcpflg_match(tcp, f)) + if (f->fw_ipflg & IP_FW_IF_TCPWIN && tcp->th_win != f->fw_tcpwin) continue; goto check_ports; } Index: /sys/netinet/ip_fw.h =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/netinet/ip_fw.h,v retrieving revision 1.52 diff -u -r1.52 ip_fw.h --- /sys/netinet/ip_fw.h 2000/08/22 00:32:52 1.52 +++ /sys/netinet/ip_fw.h 2000/09/26 07:14:42 @@ -54,7 +54,7 @@ struct in_addr fw_src, fw_dst; /* Source and destination IP addr */ struct in_addr fw_smsk, fw_dmsk; /* Mask for src and dest IP addr */ u_short fw_number; /* Rule number */ - u_int fw_flg; /* Flags word */ + u_int fw_flg; /* Operational Flags word */ #define IP_FW_MAX_PORTS 10 /* A reasonable maximum */ union { u_short fw_pts[IP_FW_MAX_PORTS]; /* Array of port numbers to match */ @@ -62,9 +62,16 @@ #define IP_FW_ICMPTYPES_DIM (IP_FW_ICMPTYPES_MAX / (sizeof(unsigned) * 8)) unsigned fw_icmptypes[IP_FW_ICMPTYPES_DIM]; /* ICMP types bitmap */ } fw_uar; + u_int fw_ipflg; /* IP flags word */ u_char fw_ipopt,fw_ipnopt; /* IP options set/unset */ + u_short fw_iplen, fw_ipid; /* IP length, identification */ + u_char fw_iptos, fw_ipntos; /* IP type of service set/unset */ + u_char fw_ipttl; /* IP time to live */ + u_int fw_ipver:4; /* IP version */ u_char fw_tcpopt,fw_tcpnopt; /* TCP options set/unset */ u_char fw_tcpf,fw_tcpnf; /* TCP flags set/unset */ + u_int32_t fw_tcpseq, fw_tcpack; /* TCP sequence and acknowledgement */ + u_short fw_tcpwin; /* TCP window size */ long timestamp; /* timestamp (tv_sec) of last match */ union ip_fw_if fw_in_if, fw_out_if; /* Incoming and outgoing interfaces */ union { @@ -206,6 +213,26 @@ #define IP_FW_F_CHECK_S 0x10000000 /* check state */ #define IP_FW_F_MASK 0x1FFFFFFF /* All possible flag bits mask */ + +/* + * Flags for the 'fw_ipflg' field, for comparing values of ip and its protocols. + */ +#define IP_FW_IF_TCPOPT 0x00000001 /* tcp options */ +#define IP_FW_IF_TCPFLG 0x00000002 /* tcp flags */ +#define IP_FW_IF_TCPSEQ 0x00000004 /* tcp sequence number */ +#define IP_FW_IF_TCPACK 0x00000008 /* tcp acknowledgement number */ +#define IP_FW_IF_TCPWIN 0x00000010 /* tcp window size */ +#define IP_FW_IF_TCPMSK 0x0000001f /* mask of all tcp values */ + +#define IP_FW_IF_IPOPT 0x00000100 /* ip options */ +#define IP_FW_IF_IPLEN 0x00000200 /* ip length */ +#define IP_FW_IF_IPID 0x00000400 /* ip identification */ +#define IP_FW_IF_IPTOS 0x00000800 /* ip type of service */ +#define IP_FW_IF_IPTTL 0x00001000 /* ip time to live */ +#define IP_FW_IF_IPVER 0x00002000 /* ip version */ +#define IP_FW_IF_IPMSK 0x00003f00 /* mask of all ip values */ + +#define IP_FW_IF_MSK 0x0000ffff /* All possible bits mask */ /* * For backwards compatibility with rules specifying "via iface" but ----- End forwarded message ----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ipfw" in the body of the message ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc. billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 30 6: 3:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43EE137B503; 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 30 12:17:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.121.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E99637B66C for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 12:17:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (1Cust53.tnt2.elkhart.in.da.uu.net [63.27.182.53]) by harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net (8.9.3-EL_1_3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA14837 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 12:17:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200009301917.MAA14837@harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 14:17:30 -0500 Reply-To: dippy1@mac.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.337) From: Dippy Black To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v337) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Mac OS X Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Now that you are going to have thousands of OS Xers dropping by you = site, I was curious if you would be adding any information for us. = Especially those that are using the public beta, are more likely to be = the ones that are enjoying the BSD component. Heck I even gave up my = Linux partition to play with it. Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 30 12:35:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70BCB37B502 for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 12:35:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e8UJZZU02943; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 12:35:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com) To: dippy1@mac.com Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Mac OS X In-Reply-To: Message from Dippy Black of "Sat, 30 Sep 2000 14:17:30 CDT." <200009301917.MAA14837@harrier.prod.itd.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 12:35:35 -0700 Message-ID: <2939.970342535@winston.osd.bsdi.com> From: Jordan Hubbard Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Now that you are going to have thousands of OS Xers dropping by you > site, I was curious if you would be adding any information for > us. Especially those that are using the public beta, are more likely > to be the ones that are enjoying the BSD component. Heck I even gave > up my Linux partition to play with it. Indeed. I think there are definite plans afoot to do this. I also don't want to say too much about this until it's actually happening, but I wouldn't be too shocked to see an "OS X companion CDROM" from us coming out in the near future which adds all the various components to OS X (and Darwin) that FreeBSD users will miss, e.g. an X server and a desktop environment, ssh, compiler toolchain, etc. It's not as hard as it looks to put such a thing together and I've already been experimenting with this on my own OS X BETA box. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Sep 30 12:49:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from 200-227-201-150-as.acessonet.com.br (200-227-201-150-as.acessonet.com.br [200.227.201.150]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A6837B66C for ; Sat, 30 Sep 2000 12:49:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 17460 invoked by uid 1001); 30 Sep 2000 19:48:41 -0000 From: "Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira" Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2000 16:48:19 -0300 To: Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami Cc: doc@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: RFC: Ports layout reorganization (Re: ports tree idea: Combine DESCR and COMMENT) Message-ID: <20000930164819.A17454@Fedaykin.here> References: <"Jeffrey <4.3.2.20000929140626.00c3fa00@207.227.119.2> <4.3.2.20000929220000.00e0d7e0@207.227.119.2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: ; from asami@FreeBSD.ORG on Sat, Sep 30, 2000 at 04:26:51AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Sep 30, 2000 at 04:26:51AM -0700, Satoshi - Ports Wraith - Asami wrote: > The %%DESCR%% substitution in README.port actually doesn't work when > MASTERDIR is set relative to ${PORTSDIR} and ${PORTSDIR} is a symlink > to something else, but you are not supposed to use ${PORTSDIR} in a > MASTERDIR definition so we should be safe. (The old README.port > wouldn't have worked at all for ports with MASTERDIR or its own idea > of DESCR anyway.) On the light of this observation, I am proposing the following patch to the porters-handbook. Or, something like that. Regards, Mario Ferreira ---- diff -ruN /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.sgml en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.sgml --- /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.sgml Thu Sep 28 00:31:29 2000 +++ en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/porters-handbook/book.sgml Sat Sep 30 16:34:19 2000 @@ -1321,6 +1321,13 @@ PKGNAMESUFFIX so the packages will have different names. + However, your port should not use ${PORTSDIR} to set + MASTERDIR as pointed out by the Ports + Wraith. Use a relative definition if you must, e.g., + MASTERDIR=${.CURDIR}/../other_port_dir_relative_path/. + Just check the example below. + + This will be best demonstrated by an example. 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