From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 5 3:50: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9304837B4D7 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 03:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id DAA67428; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 03:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB2037B479 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 03:46:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from plasm.demon.co.uk ([194.222.58.229]) by anchor-post-31.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13sOFf-0008ME-0V for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 11:46:20 +0000 Received: (from matthew@localhost) by plasm.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eA5BQHG09666; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 11:26:17 GMT (envelope-from matthew) Message-Id: <200011051126.eA5BQHG09666@plasm.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 11:26:17 GMT From: m.seaman@plasm.demon.co.uk To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/22618: [Patch] heap(3) man page malformed Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 22618 >Category: docs >Synopsis: [Patch] heap(3) man page malformed >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Nov 05 03:50:01 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Matthew Seaman >Release: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA i386 >Organization: Disorganised >Environment: plasm:~:% uname -a FreeBSD plasm.demon.co.uk 4.2-BETA FreeBSD 4.2-BETA #0: Sat Nov 4 15:59:55 GMT 2000 root@plasm.demon.co.uk:/home/obj/usr/src/sys/PLASM i386 >Description: /usr/src/contrib/bind/lib/isc/heap.mdoc has some oddities that cause `makewhatis -v /usr/share/man' to suggest: Maybe /usr/share/man/man3/heap.3.gz is not a manpage The page also lacks a proper header line and has two DESCRIPTION sections, but no NAME. >How-To-Repeat: makewhatis -v /usr/share/man man 3 heap >Fix: Comparison between /usr/src/contrib/bid/lib/{heap,tree}.mdoc results in this patch: --- heap.mdoc.orig Sun Nov 5 10:41:16 2000 +++ heap.mdoc Sun Nov 5 10:47:24 2000 @@ -1,11 +1,11 @@ .\" $Id: heap.mdoc,v 8.5 1999/01/08 19:25:38 vixie Exp $ .\" .\"Copyright (c) 1997,1999 by Internet Software Consortium. - * +.\" .\"Permission to use, copy, modify, and distribute this software for any .\"purpose with or without fee is hereby granted, provided that the above .\"copyright notice and this permission notice appear in all copies. - * +.\" .\"THE SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED "AS IS" AND INTERNET SOFTWARE CONSORTIUM DISCLAIMS .\"ALL WARRANTIES WITH REGARD TO THIS SOFTWARE INCLUDING ALL IMPLIED WARRANTIES .\"OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS. IN NO EVENT SHALL INTERNET SOFTWARE @@ -18,9 +18,8 @@ .Dd Jan 1, 1997 .\"Os OPERATING_SYSTEM [version/release] .Os BSD 4 -.\" TODO--get correct section # below!! -.Dt HEAP @SYSCALL_EXT@ -.Sh DESCRIPTION +.Dt HEAP 3 +.Sh NAME .Nm heap_new , .Nm heap_free , .Nm heap_insert , >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 5 9:25:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nber6.nber.org (nber6.nber.org [207.113.108.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8893B37B4C5 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 09:25:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from nber4.nber.org (nber4.nber.org [207.113.108.117]) by nber6.nber.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA97709 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 12:29:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from feenberg@nber.org) Received: from localhost (feenberg@localhost) by nber4.nber.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA04569 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 12:25:34 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: nber4.nber.org: feenberg owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 12:25:34 -0500 (EST) From: Daniel Feenberg To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: amd introductory doc Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have written a short introductory document for amd. I am looking for comments and suggestions. There are a couple of questions embedded in the document which is at: . I feel Amd is particularly in need of an introductory document, as the existing material is aimed at a very high level. Daniel Feenberg NBER To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 5 11: 9:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1ACF37B479 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 11:09:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eA5JA5L41145; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:10:05 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:10:04 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: REQ: Help finishing off docbook conversion Message-ID: <20001105191004.A41098@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <542.973205374@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <542.973205374@axl.fw.uunet.co.za>; from sheldonh@uunet.co.za on Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 12:49:34AM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 12:49:34AM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > I've done most of the work of translating my HTML version of Chapter 2 > of The Design and Implementation of the 4.4BSD Operating System. > > The outstanding items are: > > * A table. Done. > * The bibliography and in-document cross-references into it. Done. > If any docbook guru would like to help me out, please mail the list back > to let everyone know that you're going to tackle it (to avoid > duplication of effort) and pick up the tarball at: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~sheldonh/design-44bsd.tar.gz http://people.freebsd.org/~nik/design-44bsd.tar.gz Give that the once over. I haven't finished re-indenting some of the lines. Also, there's a problem with the ToC generation, which I've never seen before. Finally, the attached patch to freebsd.dsl ensures that the biblio xrefs get a '[' and ']' around them, as necessary. Comments? N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=diff Index: freebsd.dsl =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl,v retrieving revision 1.19 diff -u -r1.19 freebsd.dsl --- freebsd.dsl 2000/10/28 21:14:44 1.19 +++ freebsd.dsl 2000/11/05 19:08:23 @@ -300,18 +300,17 @@ (make element gi: "A" attributes: (list (list "NAME" (element-id))) (empty-sosofo)) - (make element gi: "B" + (make element gi: "B" (literal (question-answer-label (current-node)) " ") - (process-node-list (children firstch))))) + (process-node-list (children firstch))))) (process-node-list restch)))) ]]> (element docinfo (process-children)) - (element (docinfo authorgroup) (process-children)) - (element (docinfo date) (process-children)) + (element (docinfo legalnotice) (process-children)) (element literallayout @@ -343,6 +342,37 @@ (string-append "Q" (question-answer-label))) (else (string-append "AEN" (number->string (all-element-number nd)))))) + + + (define (xref-biblioentry target) + (let* ((abbrev (node-list-first + (node-list-filter-out-pis (children target)))) + (label (attribute-string (normalize "xreflabel") target))) + + (if biblio-xref-title + (let* ((citetitles (select-elements (descendants target) + (normalize "citetitle"))) + (titles (select-elements (descendants target) + (normalize "title"))) + (title (if (node-list-empty? citetitles) + (node-list-first titles) + (node-list-first citetitles)))) + (with-mode xref-title-mode + (process-node-list title))) + (if biblio-number + (make sequence + (literal "[" (number->string (bibentry-number target)) "]")) + (if label + (make sequence + (literal "[" label "]")) + (if (equal? (gi abbrev) (normalize "abbrev")) + (make sequence + (literal "[") + (process-node-list abbrev) + (literal "]")) + (make sequence + (literal "[" (id target) "]")))))))) --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 5 11:44:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mahonia.wanadoo.fr (unknown [193.252.19.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06E3A37B479 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 11:44:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.0.0.10] (193.251.38.80) by mahonia.wanadoo.fr; 5 Nov 2000 20:44:09 +0100 Message-ID: <3a05b8893a080479@mahonia.wanadoo.fr> (added by mahonia.wanadoo.fr) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset="us-ascii" Date: 05 Nov 2000 20:40 +0100 To: (Recipient list suppressed) From: Madoogali Subject: Hear what you type as you type. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bored of Keyboard Typing Errors!!!!! Download "Key2Speak" for FREE, and HEAR ALOUD what you type as soon as you type. This utility application works with all your programs. Compatible with the most common languages and MS Agent Technology (Trademark of Microsoft Corporation). Direct download: http://www.madoogali.com/Key2Speak/K2S_Setup1.exe#ref=mail041100 Web Site: http://www.madoogali.com#ref=mail041100 Minimum Requirements: OS: Win95, Win98, NT4, Me, Win2000 HD: 10 MB free disk space RAM: 16 MB Processor: P133 Mhz IE4 (or higher) If you have received this mail by error or if you wish to be removed from Madoogali's future mailings, please send a blank mail to : mailto:mail@madoogali.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 5 13:19: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1093037B4E5 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 13:18:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eA5LJqI41252; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:19:52 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 21:19:52 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: REQ: Help finishing off docbook conversion Message-ID: <20001105211952.A41234@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <542.973205374@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <542.973205374@axl.fw.uunet.co.za>; from sheldonh@uunet.co.za on Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 12:49:34AM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 12:49:34AM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > I don't think this would matter to the kind soul who decided to help me > out, but I intend to import the finished version as: > > doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/design-44bsd I've recast it as a book containing a single chapter. I'm also not 100% convinced I've got all the markup 100% correct. Have a play, and let me know. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 5 15:30: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5365637B4C5 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 15:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id PAA66388; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 15:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from static.unixfreak.org (static.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FE6937B4C5 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 15:28:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from lambda.unixfreak.org (lambda [63.198.170.138]) by static.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D87791F10 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 15:28:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from dima@localhost) by lambda.unixfreak.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eA5NSwB13834; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 15:28:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dima) Message-Id: <200011052328.eA5NSwB13834@lambda.unixfreak.org> Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 15:28:58 -0800 (PST) From: dima@unixfreak.org Reply-To: dima@unixfreak.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/22627: Answering questions about the meaning of -RC and -BETA is repetitive. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 22627 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Answering questions about the meaning of -RC and -BETA is repetitive. >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Nov 05 15:30:01 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Dima Dorfman >Release: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE-20000916 i386 >Organization: private >Environment: Not relevant. >Description: When a release is about to be made, -STABLE becomes -RC (or -BETA, in the case of 4.1.1 -> 4.2). Some people get scared and e-mail freebsd-questions. Answering them quickly gets repetitive. Since this happens every time a release is about to be made, I think it warrants an FAQ entry. I remember someone saying they were going to write something to this affect, but I can't seem to find it (`grep -ri -- -rc *` doesn't return anything relevant). >How-To-Repeat: Subscribe to and follow freebsd-questions during a code freeze. >Fix: Apply the following to doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml. Index: book.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /st/cvs/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.119 diff -u -r1.119 book.sgml --- book.sgml 2000/11/01 18:50:56 1.119 +++ book.sgml 2000/11/05 23:12:50 @@ -6526,6 +6526,39 @@ + + + + I tried to update by system to the latest -STABLE, but + got -RC or -BETA! What's going on? + + + + Short answer: it's just a name. RC stands for + Release Candidate. It signifies that a + release is imminent. In FreeBSD, -BETA is synonymous with + -RC. + + Long answer: FreeBSD derives its releases from one of + two places. Major, dot-zero, releases, such as + 3.0-RELEASE and 4.0-RELEASE, are branched from the head of + the development stream, commonly referred to as -CURRENT. Minor releases, such + as 3.1-RELEASE or 4.2-RELEASE, are snapshots of the active + -STABLE branch. + + When a release is about to be made, the branch from + which it will be derived from has to undergo a certain + process. Part of this process is a code freeze. When a + code freeze is initiated, the name of the branch is + changed to reflect that it's about to become a release. + For example, if the branch used to be called 4.0-STABLE, + its name will be changed to 4.1-RC to signify that a + release is about to be made from it. Once the release, + 4.1-RELEASE in this example, has been made, the branch + will be renamed to 4.1-STABLE. + + >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Nov 5 19:28:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AF5537B479; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:28:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eA63SYb24697; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 12:28:35 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 12:28:34 +0900 Message-ID: <7mlmux3hjx.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: nik@FreeBSD.org Cc: Documentation Team Subject: Some files in fr_FR.ISO_8859-1 don't have $FreeBSD$ User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.3.92 (Roam) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 12) (Channel Islands) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Multipart_Mon_Nov__6_12:28:34_2000-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --Multipart_Mon_Nov__6_12:28:34_2000-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I don't know how to be maintained doc/fr_FR.ISO_8859-1 tree. It seems Nik committed these contents. Nik, $Id$ in doc/fr* contents specifies revision in other repository (i.e. French translation project local)? Or can I replace them with $FreeBSD? -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project --Multipart_Mon_Nov__6_12:28:34_2000-1 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; type=patch Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="fr.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: articles/committers-guide/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/fr_FR.ISO_8859-1/articles/committers-guide/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 Makefile --- articles/committers-guide/Makefile 2000/05/25 16:27:48 1.1 +++ articles/committers-guide/Makefile 2000/11/06 03:12:05 @@ -2,7 +2,7 @@ # The FreeBSD Documentation Project # The FreeBSD French Documentation Project # -# $Id: Makefile,v 1.1 1999/10/27 22:46:49 fhaby Exp $ +# $FreeBSD$ # Original revision: 1.4 # Index: books/fdp-primer/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/fr_FR.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 Makefile --- books/fdp-primer/Makefile 2000/06/12 15:46:26 1.1 +++ books/fdp-primer/Makefile 2000/11/06 03:12:25 @@ -4,7 +4,7 @@ # # Compilation de l'Introduction au Projet de Documentation de FreeBSD # -# $Id: Makefile,v 1.1 1999/09/05 17:07:53 fhaby Exp $ +# $FreeBSD$ # Original revision: 1.6 # Index: books/fdp-primer/book.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/fr_FR.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 book.sgml --- books/fdp-primer/book.sgml 2000/06/12 15:46:26 1.1 +++ books/fdp-primer/book.sgml 2000/11/06 03:12:53 @@ -30,7 +30,7 @@ The FreeBSD Documentation Project The FreeBSD French Documentation Project - $Id: book.sgml,v 1.8 1999/11/21 23:30:23 fhaby Exp $ + $FreeBSD$ Original revision: 1.7 --> Index: books/fdp-primer/overview/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/fr_FR.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/overview/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 chapter.sgml --- books/fdp-primer/overview/chapter.sgml 2000/06/12 15:46:30 1.1 +++ books/fdp-primer/overview/chapter.sgml 2000/11/06 03:13:13 @@ -30,7 +30,7 @@ The FreeBSD Documentation Project The FreeBSD French Documentation Project - $Id: chapter.sgml,v 1.5 1999/11/21 23:30:24 fhaby Exp $ + $FreeBSD$ Original revision: 1.3 --> Index: books/fdp-primer/sgml-primer/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/fr_FR.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/sgml-primer/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 chapter.sgml --- books/fdp-primer/sgml-primer/chapter.sgml 2000/06/12 15:46:44 1.1 +++ books/fdp-primer/sgml-primer/chapter.sgml 2000/11/06 03:13:28 @@ -30,7 +30,7 @@ The FreeBSD Documentation Project The FreeBSD French Documentation Project - $Id: chapter.sgml,v 1.7 1999/11/28 23:41:44 fhaby Exp $ + $FreeBSD$ Original revision: 1.8 --> Index: books/fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/fr_FR.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 chapter.sgml --- books/fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml 2000/06/12 15:47:01 1.1 +++ books/fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml 2000/11/06 03:13:45 @@ -30,7 +30,7 @@ The FreeBSD Documentation Project The FreeBSD French Documentation Project - $Id: chapter.sgml,v 1.4 1999/11/21 23:30:32 fhaby Exp $ + $FreeBSD$ Original revision: 1.6 --> Index: books/fdp-primer/translations/chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/fr_FR.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/translations/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 chapter.sgml --- books/fdp-primer/translations/chapter.sgml 2000/06/12 15:47:06 1.1 +++ books/fdp-primer/translations/chapter.sgml 2000/11/06 03:14:06 @@ -27,7 +27,7 @@ ANY WAY OUT OF THE USE OF THIS DOCUMENTATION, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGE. - $Id: chapter.sgml,v 1.5 1999/11/28 23:41:46 fhaby Exp $ + $FreeBSD$ --> --Multipart_Mon_Nov__6_12:28:34_2000-1-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 6 3:12:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 984A737B4D7 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 03:12:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (murray@localhost) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.0/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA6BC3Z06151 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 03:12:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from murray@osd.bsdi.com) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 03:12:03 -0800 (PST) From: Murray Stokely To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: woes Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What's the best way to include source code within DocBook? Currently I'm using but I don't want to have to enclose my header files, and pointers within tags so that Jade doesn't think I'm referring to non existant sgml tags (like sys/types.h) or unknown entities (like &buffer). I don't think that the actual code in a program listing should be marked up, should it? For some reason I assumed a programlisting would contain nothing but character data. - Murray To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 6 5: 8:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lists01.iafrica.com (lists01.iafrica.com [196.7.0.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D65C37B4C5; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 05:08:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from nwl.fw.uunet.co.za ([196.31.2.162]) by lists01.iafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #2) id 13sm0r-0002Jc-00; Mon, 06 Nov 2000 15:08:37 +0200 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za (8.8.8/8.6.9) id PAA10751; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 15:08:44 +0200 (SAST) Received: by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za via recvmail id 10464; Mon Nov 6 15:07:06 2000 Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.fw.uunet.co.za) by axl.fw.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13slzO-00029n-00; Mon, 06 Nov 2000 15:07:06 +0200 From: Sheldon Hearn To: Nik Clayton Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: REQ: Help finishing off docbook conversion In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 05 Nov 2000 21:19:52 GMT." <20001105211952.A41234@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 15:07:06 +0200 Message-ID: <8294.973516026@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 05 Nov 2000 21:19:52 GMT, Nik Clayton wrote: > I've recast it as a book containing a single chapter. Hey hey! This looks cool. :-) I initially thought it would be awkward as a book, since a) it's not very big, b) it'll never be reproduced as a book, and c) it's a single chapter of a real book However, the way you've done it looks nice. Thanks a stack, man! Now I just need to get the docproj stuff installed on my box so that I can test it myself. I wouldn't want to break the doc build without a decent excuse. ;-) As an aside, what is the literallayout component of a media object actually used for? Thanks! Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 6 7:39:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [194.128.198.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A797E37B479 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 07:39:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eA6FeX702080; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 15:40:33 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 15:40:33 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Murray Stokely Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: woes Message-ID: <20001106154033.A2012@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from murray@osd.bsdi.com on Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 03:12:03AM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 03:12:03AM -0800, Murray Stokely wrote: > What's the best way to include source code within DocBook? > Currently I'm using but I don't want to have to > enclose my header files, and pointers within tags so that > Jade doesn't think I'm referring to non existant sgml tags (like > sys/types.h) or unknown entities (like &buffer). > I don't think that the actual code in a program listing should be > marked up, should it? For some reason I assumed a programlisting > would contain nothing but character data. Either; 1. Wrap the code in a CDATA marked section, like this; int main(void) { printf("hello, world\n"); }]]> This won't work if the code you're including has ']]>' in it somewhere. 2. s/ which will pull in filename.c as the output is being processed, and do the right thing. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 6 9:10: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AC5637B4E5 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 09:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id JAA18993; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 09:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from starbug.ugh.net.au (starbug.ugh.net.au [203.31.238.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90BB537B4C5 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 09:02:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 225E3A82B; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 04:02:23 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <20001106170223.225E3A82B@starbug.ugh.net.au> Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 04:02:23 +1100 (EST) From: andrew@ugh.net.au Reply-To: andrew@ugh.net.au To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/22644: Missing links for reentrant time functions Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 22644 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Missing links for reentrant time functions >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Nov 06 09:10:01 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Andrew >Release: FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386 >Organization: UgH! >Environment: >Description: ctime.3 is the man page for ctime_r, localtime_r, gmtime_r and asctime_r as well. These links aren't created however. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Patch for /usr/src/lib/libc/stdtime/Makefile.inc: --- Makefile.inc.orig Tue Nov 7 02:56:06 2000 +++ Makefile.inc Tue Nov 7 02:58:26 2000 @@ -10,6 +10,8 @@ MAN5+= tzfile.5 MLINKS+=ctime.3 asctime.3 ctime.3 difftime.3 ctime.3 gmtime.3 \ - ctime.3 localtime.3 ctime.3 mktime.3 ctime.3 timegm.3 + ctime.3 localtime.3 ctime.3 mktime.3 ctime.3 timegm.3 \ + ctime.3 ctime_r.3 ctime.3 localtime_r.3 ctime.3 gmtime_r.3 \ + ctime.3 asctime_r.3 MLINKS+=time2posix.3 posix2time.3 .endif >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 6 9:18:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from starbug.ugh.net.au (starbug.ugh.net.au [203.31.238.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38A4A37B4CF for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 09:18:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix, from userid 1000) id CC5FEA82B; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 04:18:18 +1100 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by starbug.ugh.net.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9FC65464 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 03:18:18 +1000 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 03:16:34 +1000 (EST) From: andrew@ugh.net.au To: docs@freebsd.org Subject: Man page for vcount Message-ID: X-WonK: *wibble* MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have written a man page for vcount. I don't want to send-pr it until someone has checked it for technical accuracy as I'm not exactly an expert in this area. OTH vcount appears to be simple and is at least short. It is available at http://www.ugh.net.au/~andrew/misc/vcount.9 I have already asked on -hackers but didn't get any response. While I was trying to understand a few functions in the kernel I made a few comments in the source code. I have attached a diff below. Is this useful? The comments are all pretty obvious but it may reduce the barrier to entry for new programmers (I'd comment harder functions but I don't understand them yet ;) ). I will do more functions as I come across them if ppl feel this is a good idea and not just a distraction to the code. Thanks, Andrew --snip-- Patch for /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c: --- vfs_syscalls.c.orig Sat Nov 4 23:31:21 2000 +++ vfs_syscalls.c Tue Nov 7 03:14:09 2000 @@ -3046,23 +3046,29 @@ int error; struct nameidata nd; + /* get the vnode for the given filename (and ++usecount) */ NDINIT(&nd, LOOKUP, FOLLOW, UIO_USERSPACE, SCARG(uap, path), p); if ((error = namei(&nd)) != 0) return (error); vp = nd.ni_vp; NDFREE(&nd, NDF_ONLY_PNBUF); + /* make sure the vnode is of a type you can revoke */ if (vp->v_type != VCHR && vp->v_type != VBLK) { error = EINVAL; goto out; } + /* get the attributes of this file */ if ((error = VOP_GETATTR(vp, &vattr, p->p_ucred, p)) != 0) goto out; + /* make sure euid == owner of file or we are invoked by the superuser */ if (p->p_ucred->cr_uid != vattr.va_uid && (error = suser_xxx(0, p, PRISON_ROOT))) goto out; + /* if someone other than us is using the device then do the revoke */ if (vcount(vp) > 1) VOP_REVOKE(vp, REVOKEALL); out: + /* --usecount to say we are finished with this vnode */ vrele(vp); return (error); } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 6 11: 0:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64F3037B4D7 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:00:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA38465 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:00:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:00:18 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011061900.LAA38465@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2000/07/23] docs/20117 doc *printf manpage doesn't document %n o [2000/10/02] docs/21708 doc kqueue/kevent man pages isn't specific ab 3 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/09/25] docs/13950 doc webpage idea o [1999/09/25] docs/13967 doc FreeBSD Related Publications in Korea o [1999/10/06] docs/14158 doc md5(1) manpage should not claim the md5 a o [1999/10/27] docs/14565 doc ioctl() codes for device type `fd' (flopp o [2000/02/20] docs/16843 doc Knob for release/Makefile to prevent dele f [2000/03/20] docs/17521 doc Proposed FAQ on assembly programming o [2000/03/25] docs/17598 doc installworld over NFS documentation no lo o [2000/04/03] kern/17774 doc stray irq7 o [2000/05/03] docs/18379 doc Information on SSH hard to find in Handbo o [2000/05/19] docs/18674 doc ntptime.htm and ntptime.8 o [2000/06/05] docs/19010 doc Bad144 obsoletion by 4.0 is undocumented; o [2000/06/23] docs/19481 doc Serial Communications chapter in Handbook o [2000/07/10] docs/19818 doc /usr/share/man/man8/sysinstall.8 missing o [2000/07/17] docs/19981 doc Indonesian translations o [2000/07/20] docs/20067 doc src/sbin/nologin/nologin.5 is bad place o [2000/08/04] docs/20400 doc Building a kernel with debugging info sec o [2000/08/10] docs/20528 doc sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix. o [2000/08/20] docs/20738 doc correction and modification to clocks(7) o [2000/08/23] docs/20794 doc Request 2 good documents under people.fre o [2000/10/07] docs/21826 doc ARP proxy feature lacks documentation o [2000/10/10] docs/21896 doc Mini-HOWTO for stp driver o [2000/10/17] docs/22042 doc spelling error o [2000/10/17] docs/22043 doc fstab cache annoyance o [2000/10/18] docs/22088 doc ppp filter documentation errors o [2000/10/26] docs/22333 doc share/doc/smm/07.lpd building moved in 3. o [2000/11/01] docs/22470 doc man 3 msgrcv's BUGS section needs updatin o [2000/11/03] docs/22570 doc wrong entries in iso3166 (FX, PS) o [2000/11/04] docs/22601 doc Missing links for namei.9 o [2000/11/05] docs/22618 doc [Patch] heap(3) man page malformed o [2000/11/05] docs/22627 doc Answering questions about the meaning of o [2000/11/06] docs/22644 doc Missing links for reentrant time function 33 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 6 14:20:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31C837B4CF; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 14:20:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eA6MJ2132888; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 14:19:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200011062219.eA6MJ2132888@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: bmah@freebsd.org Subject: PDF building broken? From: bmah@freebsd.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 14:19:02 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all-- I was wondering if anyone else has been having problems with building PDF documents in the doc tree? I was trying to build a new version of the committers guide (from a freshly-cvsup-ed doc tree), and got: ----- bmah-freebsd-0:committers-guide% pwd /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/committers-guide bmah-freebsd-0:committers-guide% sudo make article.pdf Password: cp /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/committers-guide/../../../share/web2c/pdftex.def article.tex-pdf cp: /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/committers-guide/../../../share/web2c/pdftex.def: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/committers-guide. ----- I took a look in /usr/doc/share/mk/doc.docbook.mk and it looks like there's something in the recipe for ${DOC}.tex-pdf that is responsible for this. I think this change happened around rev 1.23 to this file. But I'm not sure how to fix this problems, and it could just be pilot error too. Has anyone else seen/tried/hallucinated this? Thanks, Bruce. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 6 15:41:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gigantor.tokyopop.com (unknown [208.50.9.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9520E37B4CF for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 15:41:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by GIGANTOR with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 15:46:35 -0800 Message-ID: From: Prawit Namutawong To: "'freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: Install the apache Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 15:46:35 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi I need to install the apache_1.3.14 in the freebsd, but when i download and install, all i got is apache_1.3.12. How can i update or install the apache_1.3.14? sincerely prawit To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Nov 6 20:40: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCDE337B4D7 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 20:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id UAA23554; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 20:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 789D237B4D7; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 20:39:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <20001107043959.789D237B4D7@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 20:39:59 -0800 (PST) From: mistral@imasy.or.jp To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/22658: Some mistakes and fixes in periodic.conf.5 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 22658 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Some mistakes and fixes in periodic.conf.5 >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Nov 06 20:40:02 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Yoshihiko Sarumaru >Release: 4.1.1-STABLE >Organization: >Environment: >Description: Well, periodic.conf.5 has two different name to tell its value is a number. I believe (int) and (num) is equivalent, is it right? I wonder why (int) and (num) are mixed. And I found one more simple typo. SEE ALSO line has 3 periods. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: --- periodic.conf.5.orig Tue Nov 7 13:23:42 2000 +++ periodic.conf.5 Tue Nov 7 13:23:21 2000 @@ -141,7 +141,7 @@ (str) Set to a list of file names to match. Wild cards are permitted. .It Ar daily_clean_disks_days -(int) When +(num) When .Ar daily_clean_disks_enable is set to .Dq YES , @@ -161,7 +161,7 @@ is set to .Dq YES . .It Ar daily_clean_tmps_days -(int) When +(num) When .Ar daily_clean_tmps_enable is set, this must also be set to the number of days old that a file's access and modification times must be before it's deleted. @@ -502,8 +502,8 @@ .Xr ac 8 , .Xr chkgrp 8 , .Xr dump 8 , -.Xr mfs 8 . -.Xr newsyslog 8 . +.Xr mfs 8 , +.Xr newsyslog 8 , .Xr periodic 8 . .Sh HISTORY The >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 7 2:24: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [194.128.198.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0AC137B4CF; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 02:24:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eA7AOYV14213; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:24:34 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 10:24:34 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PDF building broken? Message-ID: <20001107102433.A977@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200011062219.eA6MJ2132888@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200011062219.eA6MJ2132888@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com>; from bmah@freebsd.org on Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 02:19:02PM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 02:19:02PM -0800, Bruce A. Mah wrote: > I was wondering if anyone else has been having problems with building > PDF documents in the doc tree? I was trying to build a new version of > the committers guide (from a freshly-cvsup-ed doc tree), and got: > > ----- > bmah-freebsd-0:committers-guide% pwd > /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/committers-guide > bmah-freebsd-0:committers-guide% sudo make article.pdf > Password: > cp /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/committers-guide/../../../share/web2c/pdftex.def article.tex-pdf > cp: /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/committers-guide/../../../share/web2c/pdftex.def: No such file or directory > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/committers-guide. > ----- D'oh. I forgot to commit this file. Done. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 7 4:50: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437FA37B4CF for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 04:50:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eA7Cnwb00921 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 21:49:59 +0900 (JST) Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 21:49:58 +0900 Message-ID: <7m8zqw0ww9.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: Documentation Team Subject: What's Makefile.conf in www? User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.3.92 (Roam) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 12) (Channel Islands) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sato-san found many Makefiles in www tree have ".include Makefile.conf" line but their path are different. It seems a purpose for Makefile.inc is to provide information for its subdirectories. So it should be placed directory which has subdirectory. Makefile.conf seems to provide per-user local configuration and it should not be in CVS repository. I cannot determine where Makefile.conf should be in. Can someone tell something about this file? My guesses are: (1) www/Makefile.conf only (2) www/{en,es,ja,ru,zh}/Makefile.conf (3) Same as Makefile.conf (directories which have subdrectory) -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 7 8: 1:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9EC037B479; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 08:01:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.1/8.11.0) id eA7G1pw48884; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 08:01:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200011071601.eA7G1pw48884@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> To: Nik Clayton Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PDF building broken? In-reply-to: <20001107102433.A977@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200011062219.eA6MJ2132888@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> <20001107102433.A977@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Comments: In-reply-to Nik Clayton message dated "Tue, 07 Nov 2000 10:24:34 +0000." From: bmah@freebsd.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <48883.973612911.1@cisco.com> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 08:01:51 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If memory serves me right, Nik Clayton wrote: > D'oh. I forgot to commit this file. Done. All is well now (well at least with this part of the universe). Thanks! Bruce. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 7 8:44:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.thebiz.net (mx1.thebiz.net [216.238.0.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CB6E737B479 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 08:44:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 847 invoked from network); 7 Nov 2000 11:44:34 -0500 Received: from mail2.backend.thebiz.net (HELO mail2.thebiz.net) (172.16.0.129) by mx1.backend.thebiz.net with SMTP; 7 Nov 2000 11:44:34 -0500 Received: (qmail 22727 invoked by uid 0); 7 Nov 2000 11:44:33 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO baysunmybizz) (216.238.225.58) by mail.thebiz.net with SMTP; 7 Nov 2000 11:44:33 -0500 Message-ID: <000101c048da$db7dd0a0$0101a8c0@baysunmybizz.net> From: "Baysun Timur" To: Subject: Sun's Forte-for-java and Oracle8.1.6 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 16:50:37 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can I install Sun's IDE Forte-for-java and Oracle8.1.6 on freeBSD ? How about java1.3 and JDBC 2.0 ? thanks, Baysun To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 7 9:44:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at [128.130.111.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E32A137B4CF; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 09:44:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from [128.130.111.75] (procyon [128.130.111.75]) by vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA12557; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 18:44:24 +0100 (MET) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 18:44:26 +0100 (CET) From: Toni Pisjak To: Cc: , Subject: Problem: Setup ipfw Firewall Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello ! I have problems to setup a firewall on FreeBSD-4.1., though following the directions in the FreeBSD handbook. I made a special (e.g. simple) test configuration, shown in the following draft (firewall between two clients, shown with abbreviated IP address / MAC address): client-0 firewall client-1 .111.29/:4b:a8----------.111.9/:97:55 .111.9/:9b:1f-----------.112.50/:a2:59 Because of the kernel variable net.inet.ip.forwarding set to 1, i think, that packets arriving on one firewall NIC should be forwarded to the other NIC, considering the following configuration: The firewall routing table: Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire -------------------------------------------------------------------------- default xxx.yyy.111.1 UGSc 0 0 fxp0 127.0.0.1 127.0.0.1 UH 0 0 lo0 xxx.yyy link#2 UC 0 0 fxp1 => xxx.yyy.111/25 link#1 UC 0 0 fxp0 => xxx.yyy.111.1 link#1 UHLW 1 0 fxp0 => -------------------------------------------------------------------------- xxx.yyy.111.29 ...:a2:59 UHLW 1 21 fxp0 725 xxx.yyy.112.50 ...:4b:a8 UHLW 0 7 fxp1 83 The first five routings are the default routings, the last two routings were added, when i did a ping from the clients to the firewall. These last two routings (surprisingly ?) have the schema: dest = ; gateway = <*client* mac address> ^^^^^^ The routing table of client0 (client1 is analogue; the firewall should be transparent, so i dont want to write it into the routings): Destination Gateway Flags Netif Expire ------------------------------------------------------------------- ...111.0 ...111.29 ...default ...111.29 The firewall rules i tried were: 1. allow all from any to any 2. allow all from client0 to client1 in via NIC0 allow all from -"- out via NIC1 allow all from client1 to client0 in via NIC1 allow all from -"- out via NIC0 In both cases pinging between firewall and client0/1 works, but pinging between the two clients fails (in case of *directly* connected clients (without firewall), ping works with the above configuration). "tcpdump" (running on the firewall) shows, that the ping request reaches the firewall at the appropriate NIC, but there's no output to the other NIC (i.e. no forwarding). PS: Another strange thing: If the firewall NICs are both set to the ip address ...111.9 via *rc.conf*, the pinging from client1 to the firewall via NIC-1 does *not* work after booting. But if i *then* set the ip address manually (ifconfig), the following error message appears ...: /kernel: rtinit: wrong ifa (0xc0e00480) was (0xc0e00700) ... but ping works (!). Any suggestions ? Thanks in advance: Toni. PPS: Excerpt of my /etc/rc.conf: --------------- ifconfig_fxp1="inet xxx.yyy.111.9 netmask 255.255.255.128" ifconfig_fxp0="inet xxx.yyy.111.9 netmask 255.255.255.128" hostname="aaa.bbb.ccc.ddd" router_enable="NO" gateway_enable="YES" defaultrouter="xxx.yyy.111.1" firewall_enable="YES" tcp_extensions="NO" ---------------- Additions to the GENERIC kernel: -------------------- options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 7 11:31:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from gigantor.tokyopop.com (unknown [208.50.9.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B575D37B4C5 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 11:31:26 -0800 (PST) Received: by GIGANTOR with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 11:36:24 -0800 Message-ID: From: Prawit Namutawong To: "'freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: I need to install the apache_1.3.14 Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 11:36:23 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello I need to install the apache_1.3.14 in my freebsd 4.1.1, but in the distribution package, the freebsd 4.1.1 only have apache_1.3.12.tar.gz. How can i install the apache_1.3.14? Need help real fast? sincerely prawit To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 7 11:59:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B06C37B479 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 11:59:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00163; Tue, 07 Nov 2000 11:59:19 -0800 Message-ID: <3A085F17.DA439932@urx.com> Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 11:59:19 -0800 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Prawit Namutawong Cc: "'freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Re: I need to install the apache_1.3.14 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Prawit Namutawong wrote: > > Hello > I need to install the apache_1.3.14 in my freebsd 4.1.1, but in the > distribution package, the freebsd 4.1.1 only have apache_1.3.12.tar.gz. How > can i install the apache_1.3.14? > Need help real fast? How long has it been since you cvsup'ed the ports? I did a "make search name=apache" and found Port: apache-1.3.14 Path: /usr/ports/www/apache13 Info: The extremely popular Apache http server. Very fast, very clean Maint: ache@freebsd.org Index: www B-deps: R-deps: To check on availability, I did a opal# pwd /usr/ports opal# cd www opal# cd apache13 opal# make fetch >> apache_1.3.14.tar.gz doesn't seem to exist in /usr/ports/distfiles/. >> Attempting to fetch from http://www.apache.org/dist/. Receiving apache_1.3.14.tar.gz (1813581 bytes): 100% 1813581 bytes transferred in 60.1 seconds (29.46 kBps) It is there and fetchable. Kent > sincerely > prawit > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 7 12: 9:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rapidnet.com (rapidnet.com [205.164.216.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0940537B479 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 12:09:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by rapidnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA47897; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:09:15 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 13:09:15 -0700 (MST) From: Nick Rogness To: Prawit Namutawong Cc: "'freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG'" Subject: Re: I need to install the apache_1.3.14 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 7 Nov 2000, Prawit Namutawong wrote: > Hello > I need to install the apache_1.3.14 in my freebsd 4.1.1, but in the > distribution package, the freebsd 4.1.1 only have apache_1.3.12.tar.gz. How > can i install the apache_1.3.14? > Need help real fast? Download apache_1.3.14 using fetch: # fetch http://www.apache.org/dist/apache_1.3.14.tar.gz # gunzip apache_1.3.14.tar.gz # tar -xvf apache_1.3.14.tar.gz Follow the Install intructions. `make' it on your machine. Or CVSup your /usr/ports/www ports tree. Nick Rogness - Drive defensively. Buy a tank. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 7 15:49:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.rdc1.il.home.com (mail2.rdc1.il.home.com [24.2.1.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5850B37B479 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 15:49:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from c392416a ([24.178.23.41]) by mail2.rdc1.il.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20001107234935.BSVN28911.mail2.rdc1.il.home.com@c392416a> for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 15:49:35 -0800 Message-ID: <001b01c04915$5fc6d160$0200a8c0@mntp1.il.home.com> Reply-To: "Delmir Fernandes" From: "Delmir Fernandes" To: Subject: Old archive - questions Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:49:31 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can you remove my questions from the following link or allow me to make grammatical corrections to them? http://docs.freebsd.org/mail/archive/2000/freebsd-questions/20000109.freebsd -questions.html It is very important to me. Please, reply. Best regards, Delmir Fernandes 847-945-1671 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 7 17:20: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C2C37B4C5 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:20:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id RAA21245; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-149-77.mmcable.com [24.27.149.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 13EF437B479 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:17:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 9110 invoked by uid 100); 8 Nov 2000 01:17:46 -0000 Message-Id: <20001108011746.9109.qmail@guru.mired.org> Date: 8 Nov 2000 01:17:46 -0000 From: mwm@mired.org Reply-To: mwm@mired.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/22675: Function is gone, but the man page lingers on Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 22675 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Function is gone, but the man page lingers on >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Nov 07 17:20:01 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mike Meyer >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: Meyer Consulting >Environment: System: FreeBSD guru.mired.org 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #1: Sat Nov 4 19:39:06 CST 2000 root@:/usr/obj/sharetmp/src/sys/GURU i386 >Description: The cfree man page exists, claiming that cfree is an alias for free. However, trying to use it generates link errors. >How-To-Repeat: Try compiling the following short C program: int main() { cfree((char *) 0); } and get: bash-2.04$ cc test.c test.c: In function `main': test.c:2: `NULL' undeclared (first use in this function) test.c:2: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once test.c:2: for each function it appears in.) whereas using free() instead of cfree() works. >Fix: Delete the man page? Add cfree back to libc? >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 7 17:30:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8483537B4C5 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:30:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id RAA22081; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:30:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:30:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011080130.RAA22081@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Chris Faulhaber Subject: Re: docs/22675: Function is gone, but the man page lingers on Reply-To: Chris Faulhaber Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/22675; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Chris Faulhaber To: mwm@mired.org Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/22675: Function is gone, but the man page lingers on Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 20:26:31 -0500 On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 01:17:46AM -0000, mwm@mired.org wrote: > > >Number: 22675 > >Category: docs > >Synopsis: Function is gone, but the man page lingers on > > >How-To-Repeat: > > bash-2.04$ cc test.c > test.c: In function `main': > test.c:2: `NULL' undeclared (first use in this function) > test.c:2: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > test.c:2: for each function it appears in.) > > whereas using free() instead of cfree() works. > How about following the man pages instructions: The cfree function considered obsolete. It is available from the compatibility library, libcompat. (i.e. cc test.c -lcompat) -- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 7 17:30:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B120837B666 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:30:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id RAA22102; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:30:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:30:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011080130.RAA22102@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Mike Meyer Subject: Re: docs/22675: Function is gone, but the man page lingers on Reply-To: Mike Meyer Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/22675; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Mike Meyer To: Chris Faulhaber Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/22675: Function is gone, but the man page lingers on Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 19:29:51 -0600 (CST) Chris Faulhaber types: > On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 01:17:46AM -0000, mwm@mired.org wrote: > > > > >Number: 22675 > > >Category: docs > > >Synopsis: Function is gone, but the man page lingers on > > > > >How-To-Repeat: > > > > bash-2.04$ cc test.c > > test.c: In function `main': > > test.c:2: `NULL' undeclared (first use in this function) > > test.c:2: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once > > test.c:2: for each function it appears in.) > > > > whereas using free() instead of cfree() works. > > > > How about following the man pages instructions: > > The cfree function considered obsolete. > It is available from the compatibility library, libcompat. > (i.e. cc test.c -lcompat) That would be a fine solution by me. I assumed no library was needed because such are normally documented. Thanx, ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:30:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id RAA22092; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:30:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-149-77.mmcable.com [24.27.149.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A002337B4CF for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:26:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 9529 invoked by uid 100); 8 Nov 2000 01:26:36 -0000 Message-Id: <20001108012636.9528.qmail@guru.mired.org> Date: 8 Nov 2000 01:26:36 -0000 From: mwm@mired.org Reply-To: mwm@mired.org To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: docs/22676: No man pages for Make.conf or /usr/src/sys/Makefile Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 22676 >Category: docs >Synopsis: No man pages for Make.conf or /usr/src/sys/Makefile >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: high >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Tue Nov 07 17:30:10 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mike Meyer >Release: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386 >Organization: Meyer consulting >Environment: System: FreeBSD guru.mired.org 5.0-CURRENT FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #1: Sat Nov 4 19:39:06 CST 2000 root@:/usr/obj/sharetmp/src/sys/GURU i386 >Description: In a fit (of some kind), I wrote man pages for make.conf and and build. Jkh took a look, and said: From: Jordan Hubbard To: Mike Meyer Subject: Re: make.conf man page? Date: Tue, 07 Nov 2000 13:59:32 -0800 Look good to me, submit 'em as PRs so somebody from the docs team can commit them. I'm too busy with 4.2 to even contemplate it at the moment. :) >How-To-Repeat: Try "man make.conf" or "man build". >Fix: Commit the two man pages in the attached shar file. # This is a shell archive. Save it in a file, remove anything before # this line, and then unpack it by entering "sh file". Note, it may # create directories; files and directories will be owned by you and # have default permissions. # # This archive contains: # # manpages # manpages/make.conf.5 # manpages/build.7 # echo c - manpages mkdir -p manpages > /dev/null 2>&1 echo x - manpages/make.conf.5 sed 's/^X//' >manpages/make.conf.5 << 'END-of-manpages/make.conf.5' X.\" Copyright (c) 2000 X.\" Mike W. Meyer X.\" X.\" Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without X.\" modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions X.\" are met: X.\" 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright X.\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. X.\" 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright X.\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the X.\" documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. X.\" X.\" THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE AUTHOR ``AS IS'' AND X.\" ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE X.\" IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE X.\" ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHOR BE LIABLE X.\" FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL X.\" DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS X.\" OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) X.\" HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT X.\" LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY X.\" OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF X.\" SUCH DAMAGE. X.\" X.\" $FreeBSD:$ X.\" X.Dd Nov 3, 2000 X.Dt MAKE.CONF 5 X.Os X.Sh NAME X.Nm make.conf X.Nd system build information. X.Sh DESCRIPTION XThe file X.Nm Xcontains settings that control the compilation of the FreeBSD sources Xand ported applications. The file X.Nm Xis generally created by the system administrator when the values need Xto be changed from their defaults. X.Pp XThe purpose of X.Nm Xis not to run commands or perform compilation actions Xdirectly. Instead, it is included by the Xvarious makefiles in X.Pa /usr/src, X.Pa /usr/ports Xand X.Pa /usr/doc Xwhich conditionalize their Xinternal actions according to the settings found there. X.Pp XThe X.Pa /etc/make.conf Xfile is included from the the appropriate Makefile Xwhich specifies the default settings for all the available options. XOptions need only be specified in X.Pa /etc/make.conf Xwhen the system administrator wishes to override these defaults. X.Pp XThe build procedures occur in four broad areas: the world, the kernel, Xdocumentations and ports. Variables set in X.Nm Xmay be applicable during builds in one, two, or all four of these Xareas. They may be specified for a particular build via the X.Op -D Xoption of X.Xr make 1 . X.Pp XThe following lists provides a name and short description for each Xvariable you can use during the indicated builds. The values of Xvariables flagged as Xbool Xare ignored; the variable being Xset at all (even to X.Li Dq FALSE Xor X.Li Dq NO ) Xcause it to Xbe treated as if it were set. X.Pp XThe following list provides a name and short description for variables Xthat are used for all builds, or are used by the Xmakefiles for things other than builds. X.Bl -tag -width Ar X.It Ar CFLAGS X(str) Controls the compiler setting when compiling C code. XOptimization levels above X.Op -O ( -O2 , ...) Xare not supported. BDECFLAGS Xis provided as a set of gcc settings suggested by Bruce Evans Xfor developgin and testing changs. They can be used by: X.Bd -literal -offset indent XCXFLAGS+=${BDECFLAGS} X.Ed X.It Ar CVS_UPDATE X(bool) Set this to use cvs to update your ports with X.Cm "make update" . X.It Ar CXXFLAGS X(str) Controls the compiler settings when compiling C++ code. XCXXFLAGS is initially set to the value of CFLAGS. If you want to Xadd to the CXXFLAGS value, use X.Dq Li += Xinstead of X.Dq Li = . X.It Ar INSTALL X(str) the default install command. To have commands compared before doing Xthe install, use X.Bd -literal -offset indent XINSTALL="install -C" X.Ed X.It Ar LOCAL_DIRS X(str) List any directories that should be entered when doing Xmake's in X.Pa /usr/src Xin this variable. X.It Ar MTREE_FOLLOWS_SYMLINKS X(str) Set this to X.Dq Li -L Xto cause mtree to follow symlinks. X.It Ar NO_DOCUPDATE X(bool) Set this to not update the doc tree during X.Cm "make update" . X.It Ar NO_PORTSUPDATE X(bool) Set this to not update the ports tree during X.Cm "make update" . X.It Ar SUP_UPDATE X(bool) Set this to use cvsup to update your ports with X.Cm "make update" . X.It Ar SUP X(str) The location of the cvsup command for X.Cm "make update" . X.It Ar SUPFLAGS X(str) The flag for the sup command when doing X.Cm "make update" . XThis defaults to X.Op "-g -L 2" . X.It Ar SUPHOST X(str) The hostname of the sup server to use when doing X.Cm "make update" . X.It Ar SUPFILE X(str) The first supfile to use when doing a X.Cm "make update" . XThis defaults to X.Pa /usr/share/examples/cvsup/standard-supfile . X.It Ar SUPFILE1 X(str) The second supfile to use when doing a X.Cm "make update" . XThis defaults to X.Pa /usr/share/examples/cvsup/secure-supfile . X.It Ar SUPFILE2 X(str) The third supfile to use when doing a X.Cm "make update" . XThis defaults to X.Pa /usr/share/examples/cvsup/secure-supfile . X.It Ar PORTSSUPFILE X(str) The ports supfile to use when doing a X.Cm "make update" . XThis defaults to X.Pa /usr/share/examples/cvsup/ports-supfile . X.It Ar DOCSUPFILE X(str) The documentation supfile to use when doing a X.Cm "make update" . XThis defaults to X.Pa /usr/share/examples/cvsup/doc-supfile . X.El X.Pp XThe following list provides a name and short description for variables Xthat are only used doing a kernel build: X.Bl -tag -width Ar X.It Ar BOOT_COMCONSOLE_PORT X(str) The port address to use for the console if the boot blocks have Xbeen configured to use a serial console instead of the keyboard/video card. X.It Ar BOOT_COMCONSOLE_SPEED X(int) The baud rate to use for the console if the boot blocks have Xbeen configured to use a serial console instead of the keyboard/video card. X.It Ar BOOTWAIT X(int) Controls the amount of time the kernel waits for a console keypress Xbefore booting the default kernel. The value is approximately Xmilliseconds. Keypresses are accepted by the BIOS before booting from disk, Xmaking it possible to give custom boot parameters even when this is Xset to 0. X.It Ar COPTFLAGS X(str) Controls the compiler settings when building the Xkernel. Optimization levels above X.Op -O X.Op -O2 , X...) are not supported. X.It Ar NO_KERNELCONFIG X(bool) Set this to skip running X.Xr config 8 Xduring X.Cm "${MAKE} buildkernel" . X.It Ar NO_KERNELDEPEND X(bool) Set this to skip running X.Cm "${MAKE} depend" Xduring X.Cm "${MAKE} buildkernel" . X.It Ar NO_MODULES X(bool) Set to not build modules with the kernel. X.El X.Pp XThe following list provides a name and short description for variables Xthat are used during the world build: X.Bl -tag -width Ar X.It Ar COMPAT1X X(bool) Set to install the X.Fx X1 compatibility libraries. X.It Ar COMPAT20 X(bool) Set to install the X.Fx 2.0 Xcompatibility libraries. X.It Ar COMPAT21 X(bool) Set to install the X.Fx 2.1 Xcompatibility libraries. X.It Ar COMPAT22 X(bool) Set to install the X.Fx 2.2 Xcompatibility libraries. X.It Ar COMPAT3X X(bool) Set to install the X.Fx X3 compatibility libraries. X.It Ar ENABLE_SUIDPERL X(bool) Set to enable the installation of an suid perl binary. X.It Ar FETCH_CMD X(str) Command to use to fetch files. Normally X.Xr fetch 1 . X.It Ar MAKE_IDEA X(bool) Set to build the IDEA encryption code. This code is patented in Xthe USA and many european countries. It is X.Em "YOUR RESPONSIBILITY" Xto determine if you can legally use IDEA. X.It Ar MAKE_KERBEROS4 X(bool) Set this to build KerberosIV (KTH eBones). X.It Ar MAKE_KERBEROS5 X(bool) Set this to build Kerberos5 (KTH Heimdal). X.Em WARNING! XThis is still experimental code. If you need stable Kerberos5, use the Xport(s). X.It Ar MODULES_WITH_WORLD X(bool) Set to build modules with the system instead of the kernel. X.It Ar NO_CVS X(bool) Set to not build CVS. X.It Ar NO_BIND X(bool) Set to not build BIND. X.It Ar NO_FORTRAN X(bool) Set to not build g77 and related libraries. X.It Ar NO_LPR X(bool) Set to not build lpr and related programs. X.It Ar NO_MAILWRAPPER X(bool) Set to not build the mailwrapper(8) MTA selector. X.It Ar NO_MAKEDEV X(bool) Set to avoid running MAKEDEV all on /dev during install. X.It Ar NO_OBJC X(bool) Set to not build Objective C support. X.It Ar NO_OPENSSH X(bool) Set to not build OpenSSH. X.It Ar NO_OPENSSL X(bool) Set to not build OpenSSL (implies NO_OPENSSH). X.It Ar NO_SENDMAIL X(bool) Set to not build sendmail and related programs. X.It Ar NO_SHAREDOCS X(bool) Set to not build the 4.4BSD legacy docs. X.It Ar NO_TCSH X(bool) Set to not build and install /bin/csh (which is tcsh). X.It Ar NO_X X(bool) Set to not compile in XWindows support (e.g. doscmd). X.It Ar NOCLEAN X(bool) Set this to disable cleaning during X.Cm "make buildworld" . XThis should not be set unless you know what you are doing. X.It Ar NOCLEANDIR X(bool) Set this to run X.Cm "${MAKE} clean" Xinstead of X.Cm "${MAKE} cleandir" . X.It Ar NOCRYPT X(bool) Set to not build any crypto code. X.It Ar NODESCRYPTLINKS X(bool) Set to not replace X.Pa libcrypt -> libscrypt Xlinks. X.It Ar NOGAMES X(bool) Set to not build games. X.It Ar NOINFO X(bool) Set to not make or install info files. X.It Ar NOLIBC_R X(bool) Set to not build libc_r (re-entrant version of libc). X.It Ar NOMANCOMPRESS X(bool) Set to install man pages uncompressed. X.It Ar NOPERL X(bool) Set to avoid building perl. X.It Ar NOPROFILE X(bool) Set to avoid compiling profiled libraries. X.It Ar NOSECURE X(bool) set to not build crypto code in secure subdir. X.It Ar NOSHARE X(bool) Set to not build in the share subdir. X.It Ar NOUUCP X(bool) Set to not build uucp related programs. X.It Ar PERL_THREADED X(bool) Set to enable the building and installation of perl with thread Xsupport. X.It Ar PPP_NOSUID X(bool) Set to disable the installation of ppp as an suid root program. X.It Ar SENDMAIL_CFLAGS X(str) Flags to pass to the compile command when building sendmail. The Xsendmail flags can be used to provide SASL support with setting such as: X.Bd -literal -offset indent XSENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include -DSASL XSENDMAIL_LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib XSENDMAIL_LDADD=-lsasl X.Ed X.It Ar SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS X(str) Flags to pass to the ld command when building sendmail. X.It Ar SENDMAIL_LDADD X(str) Flags to add to the end of the ld command when building sendmail. X.It Ar SENDMAIL_DPADD X(str) This variable is undocumented. X.El X.Pp XThe following list provides a name and short description for variables Xthat are used when building documentation. X.Bl -tag -width Ar X.It Ar DISTDIR X(str) Where distfiles are kept. Normally, this is X.Pa distfiles Xin X.Ev PORTSDIR . X.It Ar DOC_LANG X(str) The list of languages and encodings to build and install. X.It Ar PRINTERDEVICE X(str) The default format for system documentation, depends on your Xprinter. This can be set to X.Dq Li ascii Xfor simple printers or X.Dq Li ps Xfor postscript or graphics printers with a ghostscript Xfilter. X.El X.Pp XThe following list provides a name and short description for variables Xthat are used when building ports: X.Bl -tag -width Ar X.It Ar FORCE_PKG_RESIDENT X(bool) Set this to override any existing package registration. X.It Ar HAVE_MOTIF X(bool) Set this if you have Motif on your system. X.It Ar KRB5_HOME X(str) Set this if you want to install the MIT Kerberos5 port somewhere Xother than X.Pa /usr/local . X.It Ar LOCALBASE X(str) Set this to the base directory that non-X ports should be Xinstalled in. It provides the default for PREFIX when building in X.Pa /usr/ports . X.It Ar MASTER_SITE_AFTERSTEP X(str) Set this to change the master site for AfterStep ports. The last Xpart of the path must be X.Dq Li /%SUBDIR%/ . X.It Ar MASTER_SITE_BACKUP X(str) Controls the site location that ports check for distfiles if the Xlocations listed in their X.Pa Makefile Xdo not work. The last part of the path must be X.Dq Li /${DIST_SUBDIR}/ . X.It Ar MASTER_SITE_COMP_SOURCES X(str) Controls the master site location for comp.sources ports. The Xlast part of the path must be X.Dq Li %SUBDIR%/ X.It Ar MASTER_SITE_GNOME X(str) Controls the master site location for GNOME ports. The Xlast part of the path must be X.Dq Li /%SUBDIR%/ X.It Ar MASTER_SITE_GNU X(str) Controls the master site location for GNU ports. The Xlast part of the path must be X.Dq Li /%SUBDIR%/ X.It Ar MASTER_SITE_KDE X(str) Controls the master site location for KDE ports. The Xlast part of the path must be X.Dq Li /%SUBDIR%/ X.It Ar MASTER_SITE_FREEBSD X(bool) If set, go to the master X.Fx Xsite for all files. X.It Ar MASTER_SITE_MOZILLA X(str) Controls the master site location for Mozilla ports. The Xlast part of the path must be X.Dq Li /%SUBDIR%/ X.It Ar MASTER_SITE_OVERRIDE X(str) If set, this site is checked before the sites listed in the ports X.Pa Makefile . XYou can have it check the backup site first by like so: X.Bd -literal -offset indent XMASTER_SITE_OVERRIDE?= ${MASTER_SITE_BACKUP} X.Ed X.It Ar MASTER_SITE_PERL_CPAN X(str) Controls the master site location for Perl ports. The Xlast part of the path must be X.Bd -literal -offset indent X/%SUBDIR%/ X.Ed X.It Ar MASTER_SORT_REGEX X(str) Set this to control the sort order for mirror sets. To set it to Xprefer mirrors in the .jp domain, use: X.Bd -literal -offset indent XMASTER_SORT_REGEX?= ^file: ^ftp://ftp\.FreeBSD\.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/local-distfiles/ ://[^/]*\.jp/ ://[^/]*\.jp\. X.Ed XUsers of other ccTLD domins should change the X.Dq Li jp Xto the Xappropriate domain. X.It Ar MASTER_SITE_RINGSERVER X(str) Controls the master site location for Ringserver ports. The last Xpart of the path must be X.Dq Li /%SUBDIR%/ . X.It Ar MASTER_SITE_RUBY X(str) Controls the master site location for Ruby ports. The last Xpart of the path must be X.Dq Li /%SUBDIR%/ . X.It Ar MASTER_SITE_SUNSITE X(str) Controls the master site location for Sunsite ports. The last Xpart of the path must be X.Dq Li /%SUBDIR%/ . X.It Ar MASTER_SITE_TCLTK X(str) Controls the master site location for Tcl and Tk ports. The last Xpart of the path must be X.Dq Li /%SUBDIR%/ . X.It Ar MASTER_SITE_TEX_CTAN X(str) Controls the master site location for TeX ports. The last Xpart of the path must be X.Dq Li /%SUBDIR%/ . X.It Ar MASTER_SITE_WINDOWMAKER X(str) Controls the master site location for WindowMaker ports. The last Xpart of the path must be X.Dq Li /%SUBDIR%/ . X.It Ar MASTER_SITE_XCONTRIB X(str) Controls the master site location for contributed X ports. The last Xpart of the path must be X.Dq Li /%SUBDIR%/ . X.It Ar MASTER_SITE_XEMACS X(str) Controls the master site location for Xemacs ports. The last Xpart of the path must be X.Dq Li /%SUBDIR%/ . X.It Ar MASTER_SITE_XFREE X(str) Controls the master site location for XFree ports. The last Xpart of the path must be X.Dq Li /%SUBDIR%/ . X.It Ar MOTIFLIB X(str) Location of X.Pa libXm.a Xand X.Pa libXm.so . X.It Ar MOTIF_STATIC X(bool) Set this if you want ports that use Motif to be built so they Xcan be run on systems without the Motif shared libraries. X.It Ar NOCLEANDEPENDS X(bool) Set this to prevent X.Cm "make clean" Xfrom cleaning the ports that the one being cleaned depends on. X.It Ar NOPORTDOCS X(bool) Set this to disable installing additional documentation with ports. X.It Ar PACKAGES X(str) Used only for the package target; the directory for the package tree. X.It Ar PATCH_SITES X(str) Primary location(s) for the distribution of patch files. X.It Ar PORTSDIR X(str) The location of the ports tree. X.It Ar USA_RESIDENT X(bool) Set this if you are a resident of the USA so that ports that Xneed to can attemp to comply with U.S. export regulations. X.It Ar WRKDIRPREFIX X(str) Where to create temporary files used when building ports. X.It Ar X11BASE X(str) Should be set to where the X11 distribution has been Xinstalled if it is installed anywhere other than /usr/X11R6. X.Sh FILES X.Bl -tag -width /etc/defaults/make.conf -compact X.It Pa /etc/defaults/make.conf X.It Pa /etc/make.conf X.It Pa /usr/doc/Makefile X.It Pa /usr/src/Makefile X.It Pa /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 X.It Pa /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk X.It Pa /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.sites.mk X.Sh SEE ALSO X.Xr gcc 1 , X.Xr install 1 , X.Xr lpd 8 , X.Xr make 1 , X.Xr make 7 , X.Xr ports 7 , X.Xr sendmail 8 X.Sh HISTORY XThe X.Nm Xfile appeared sometime before X.Fx 4.0 . X.Sh AUTHORS X.An Mike W. Meyer Aq mwm@mired.org . END-of-manpages/make.conf.5 echo x - manpages/build.7 sed 's/^X//' >manpages/build.7 << 'END-of-manpages/build.7' X.\" Copyright (c) 2000 X.\" Mike W. Meyer X.\" X.\" Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without X.\" modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions X.\" are met: X.\" 1. Redistributions of source code must retain the above copyright X.\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer. X.\" 2. Redistributions in binary form must reproduce the above copyright X.\" notice, this list of conditions and the following disclaimer in the X.\" documentation and/or other materials provided with the distribution. X.\" X.\" THIS SOFTWARE IS PROVIDED BY THE AUTHOR ``AS IS'' AND X.\" ANY EXPRESS OR IMPLIED WARRANTIES, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, THE X.\" IMPLIED WARRANTIES OF MERCHANTABILITY AND FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE X.\" ARE DISCLAIMED. IN NO EVENT SHALL THE AUTHOR BE LIABLE X.\" FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, EXEMPLARY, OR CONSEQUENTIAL X.\" DAMAGES (INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO, PROCUREMENT OF SUBSTITUTE GOODS X.\" OR SERVICES; LOSS OF USE, DATA, OR PROFITS; OR BUSINESS INTERRUPTION) X.\" HOWEVER CAUSED AND ON ANY THEORY OF LIABILITY, WHETHER IN CONTRACT, STRICT X.\" LIABILITY, OR TORT (INCLUDING NEGLIGENCE OR OTHERWISE) ARISING IN ANY WAY X.\" OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF X.\" SUCH DAMAGE. X.\" X.\" $FreeBSD:$ X.\" X.Dd Nov 4, 2000 X.Dt BUILD 7 X.Os X.Sh NAME X.Nm build X.Nd information on how to build the system. X.Sh DESCRIPTION XThe source for the X.Os FreeBSD Xsystem and applications are contained in three different directories, Xnormally X.Pa /usr/src , X.Pa /usr/doc , Xand X.Pa /usr/ports . X.Pa /usr/src Xcontains the X.Dq "base system" Xsources, which is loosely defined as the things required to rebuild Xthe system to a useful state. X.Pa /usr/doc Xcontains the source for the system documentation, excluding the manual Xpages. X.Pa /usr/ports Xis a tree that provides a consistent interface for building and Xinstalling third party applications. X.Pp XThe X.Xr make 1 Xcommand is used in each of these directories to build and install the Xthings in that directory. Issuing the make command in any directory or Xsubdirectory of those directories has the same effect as issuing the Xsame command in all subdirectories of that directory. With no target Xspecified, the things in that directory are just built. The following Xlist provides the names and actions for other targets: X.Bl -tag -width Ar X.It Ar clean XRemoves any files created during the build process. X.It Ar install XInstalls the results of the build for this directory. X.It Ar update XGets updated sources as configured in X.Pa /etc/make.conf . X.El X.Pp XThe other X.Pa /usr/src Xmake targets are: X.Bl -tag -width Ar X.It Ar buildworld XRebuild everything but the kernel, configure files in X.Pa /etc , Xand release. X.It Ar installworld XInstall everything built by X.Dq buildworld . X.It Ar world Xbuildworld + installworld. X.It Ar buildkernel XRebuild the kernel and the kernel-modules. X.It Ar installkernel XInstall the kernel and the kernel-modules. X.It Ar reinstallkernel XReinstall the kernel and the kernel-modules. X.It Ar upgrade XUpgrade a.out (2.2.x/3.0) system to the new ELF way X.It Ar most XBuild user commands, no libraries or include files. X.It Ar installmost XInstall user commands, no libraries or include files. X.It Ar aout-to-elf XUpgrade an system from a.out to elf format. X.It Ar aout-to-elf-build XBuild everything required to upgrade a system from a.out to elf format. X.It Ar aout-to-elf-install XInstall everything built by aout-to-elf-build. X.It Ar move-aout-libs XMove the a.out libraries into an aout sub-directory of each elf Xlibrary sub-directory. X.El X.Pp XFor more information about the ports build process, see X.Xr ports 7 . X.Sh FILES X.Bl -tag -width /etc/defaults/make.conf -compact X.It Pa /etc/defaults/make.conf X.It Pa /etc/make.conf X.It Pa /usr/doc/Makefile X.It Pa /usr/doc/share/mk/doc.project.mk X.It Pa /usr/src/Makefile X.It Pa /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 X.It Pa /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk X.It Pa /usr/ports/Mk/bsd.sites.mk X.Sh SEE ALSO X.Xr gcc 1 , X.Xr install 1 , X.Xr make 1 , X.Xr make.conf 5 , X.Xr ports 7 X.Sh AUTHORS X.An Mike W. Meyer Aq mwm@mired.org . END-of-manpages/build.7 exit >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 7 17:36:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B8437B479 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:36:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id F35F11360E; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 20:36:48 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 20:36:48 -0500 From: Chris Faulhaber To: Mike Meyer Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/22675: Function is gone, but the man page lingers on Message-ID: <20001107203648.A69757@peitho.fxp.org> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Faulhaber , Mike Meyer , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <200011080130.RAA22102@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200011080130.RAA22102@freefall.freebsd.org>; from mwm@mired.org on Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 05:30:15PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 05:30:15PM -0800, Mike Meyer wrote: > The following reply was made to PR docs/22675; it has been noted by GNATS. > > That would be a fine solution by me. I assumed no library was needed > because such are normally documented. > How is this not documented? The man page states: It is available from the compatibility library, libcompat. -- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Nov 7 17:51:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-149-77.mmcable.com [24.27.149.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 70D0337B4C5 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:51:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 10633 invoked by uid 100); 8 Nov 2000 01:51:38 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14856.45482.731628.628378@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 19:51:38 -0600 (CST) To: Chris Faulhaber Cc: Mike Meyer , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/22675: Function is gone, but the man page lingers on In-Reply-To: <20001107203648.A69757@peitho.fxp.org> References: <200011080130.RAA22102@freefall.freebsd.org> <20001107203648.A69757@peitho.fxp.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chris Faulhaber types: > On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 05:30:15PM -0800, Mike Meyer wrote: > > The following reply was made to PR docs/22675; it has been noted by GNATS. > > > > That would be a fine solution by me. I assumed no library was needed > > because such are normally documented. > How is this not documented? The man page states: > > > It is available from the compatibility library, libcompat. > In which case, I missed it and you can just close the pr. Though I think adding the -lcompat line would still be a good idea. ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 00:40:00 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id AAA80823; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 00:40:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 7891437B479; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 00:35:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <20001108083533.7891437B479@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 00:35:33 -0800 (PST) From: yamada-a@nextcom.co.jp To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/22684: version higher than release Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 22684 >Category: docs >Synopsis: version higher than release >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Nov 08 00:40:00 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Akinori YAMADA >Release: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA >Organization: NextCom K.K. >Environment: FreeBSD tech1.nextcom.co.jp 4.2-BETA FreeBSD 4.2-BETA #1: Thu Nov 2 19:41:34 JST 2000 yamada-a@tech01.test.nextcom.co.jp:/usr/src/sys/compile/tech1 i386 >Description: When I was looking at the manual of "periodic.conf", it "FreeBSD 5.0 June 22, 2000" is displayed in the last line though my version is "4.2". I wonder correct. >How-To-Repeat: Please type: # man periodic.conf and look at the last line. >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 8 4:20: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C497E37B479 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 04:20:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id EAA13896; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 04:20:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 04:20:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011081220.EAA13896@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Sheldon Hearn Subject: Re: docs/22676: No man pages for Make.conf or /usr/src/sys/Makefile Reply-To: Sheldon Hearn Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/22676; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Sheldon Hearn To: mwm@mired.org Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/22676: No man pages for Make.conf or /usr/src/sys/Makefile Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 14:12:58 +0200 On 08 Nov 2000 01:26:36 GMT, mwm@mired.org wrote: > >Number: 22676 > >Category: docs > >Synopsis: No man pages for Make.conf or /usr/src/sys/Makefile Oh dear. You've put a lot of work into this. As someone who spends a lot of time pulling his hair out over stale manual pages, these two scare me. I honestly think that it's a bad idea to import these two. They basically just duplicate the commentary in the files they document, and I don't think it's too much to ask for folks to read the files themselves. It's great that you're getting stuck in and contributing, but I think that these two aren't a good idea. :-( Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 8 4:20: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD72D37B4CF for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 04:20:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id EAA13901; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 04:20:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 04:20:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011081220.EAA13901@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Sheldon Hearn Subject: Re: docs/22675: Function is gone, but the man page lingers on Reply-To: Sheldon Hearn Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/22675; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Sheldon Hearn To: Mike Meyer Cc: Chris Faulhaber , freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/22675: Function is gone, but the man page lingers on Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 14:17:14 +0200 On Tue, 07 Nov 2000 19:51:38 CST, Mike Meyer wrote: > In which case, I missed it and you can just close the pr. Though I > think adding the -lcompat line would still be a good idea. I think this manpage just needs the new .Lb macro. Ciao, Sheldon. 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jessmcdowell@mail.ru ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0498F.1A155310-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 8 5:12:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from europe.std.com (europe.std.com [199.172.62.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05AFE37B479 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 05:12:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from world.std.com (lowell@world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by europe.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA09755; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 08:12:11 -0500 (EST) Received: (from lowell@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA21769; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 08:12:11 -0500 (EST) To: bokr@accessone.com (Bengt Richter), freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: [from freebsd-security] Re: [FAQ] Ideas for automatic FAQ extraction? References: <3.0.5.32.20001107002217.009641f0@mail.accessone.com> From: Lowell Gilbert Date: 08 Nov 2000 08:12:10 -0500 In-Reply-To: bokr@accessone.com's message of "7 Nov 2000 09:17:48 +0100" Message-ID: Lines: 103 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.5 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is really a -doc topic, rather than a -security one, so I'm sending my message accordingly. bokr@accessone.com (Bengt Richter) writes: > I have a pretty goodsized archive from this mailing list, > with a lot of valuable Q's and A's, but it would take a > *lot* of editing to make a FAQ out of it all. So I thought > to ask: (see Q: below, after topic header ...) > > [T: Markup syntax for automatic FAQ extraction from posted text.] > [C: The above T: item defines the beginning a topic scope. > This is a comment to be included in the extracted FAQ material.] > > [Q: Has anyone defined a simple markup syntax that > would let people delimit *parts* of their posting > so that a simple script could extract material to > generate a FAQ document automatically? ] > [A: I am proposing this as a straw man, > but there are probably others. ] The idea is fine, but my opinion is that it isn't worth the effort. Entries should only be added to a FAQ if they're asked frequently, and trying to combine writing a mailing list answer with a FAQ entry is not really going to make things easier. I consistently find that I have to do a lot of rewriting when I submit FAQ entries, even when I started with a mailing list message, so I doubt this approach would get a lot of buy-in. People who are willing to do the extra work can just write the proposed FAQ entry, and send the text as a response as well as a PR. It *is* possible that we could use a "security" section of the FAQ, but I'm not sure about that, because it's hard to separate security from system administration in general, which already has a section. I submitted some text (several questions and answers worth) about passwords a year or two back, and it's still sitting in an open PR. > This is a comment that wouldn't show up in the > output FAQ. Only stuff inside [] brackets gets extracted. > > [Q: What about followup questions? ] > [A: They'd alternate, like a normal dialog, unless they > narrowed in on something. Then nesting might be > called for, like usenet threads.] > > [Q: How does topic scope end?] > [A: With start of another, or EOF. Nesting Q: and A: scopes > within a T: is permitted, but then it takes X: to > exclude text. [X: This is inside an A: scope, so it > takes the X: at the beginnig of this to exclude this.] > ] > This is not inside brackets, so > it doesn't get extracted for a FAQ. This represents > the parts of postings that you don't want in the FAQ, > so you don't bracket it. > > [Q: How much thought has gone into this?] > [A: Not whole lot, but it's pretty simple. [C: This is a comment > that is not an answer, but would get carried along, > and it has nested scope. Extracted material would be pretty-printed.] > [Q: What should this question refer to by its position?] > [A: It should have been a nested follow-on question about > the amount of thought or something in the answer, > or something like that.] > [X: Inside the outermost brackets, it takes X: bracketing > to exclude text like this. This is still inside an A: scope. ] > ] <- ends the A: above, with its nested C:, Q:, A: and X:. This > part is outside, and excluded. > > Even something as trivial ( well, the nesting/threading makes it a > little less trivial, but still ) as the above markup might have > a lot of effect. It's cheap to try. A little perl could easily make > HTML or text FAQ output. [C: Maybe there should be an optional > [K: keywords] form to support searching and indexing? BTW the C: > makes the [K: ...]'s here be included, but not 'evaluated' since > they're inside the C: (comment) scope.] That's pretty close to trivial, but it's not *really* much easier than writing docbook, and you can always submit raw text in a PR and hope a committer will do the markup for you. That kind of docbook markup is almost precisely equivalent, and can easily be done cargo-cult style. > [C: Maybe a special alternate to [T: ...] could designate a final > version arrived at by consensus, say add an exclamation point after the > colon on things, like [T:! ...] or [A:! ...], etc. or else just use > the latest date posting containing a particular [T: ...] topic. > To update a [T: Topic line] you'd follow it immediately with its > replacement, and leave the old, to tie the new into the same succession. ] > > [C: We could start with just the T:, Q:, and A: forms and no nesting, > and see how it feels. 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text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I would be willing to work on doing a cospectus for the freebsd questions mailing list, and perhaps a FAQ for it as well.....let me know if you are interested. Josh Paetzel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 8 7:40: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F80537B479 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 07:40:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id HAA44311; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 07:40:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 07:40:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011081540.HAA44311@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Mike Meyer Subject: Re: docs/22676: No man pages for Make.conf or /usr/src/sys/Makefile Reply-To: Mike Meyer Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/22676; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Mike Meyer To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/22676: No man pages for Make.conf or /usr/src/sys/Makefile Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 09:30:32 -0600 (CST) Sheldon Hearn types: > On 08 Nov 2000 01:26:36 GMT, mwm@mired.org wrote: > > >Number: 22676 > > >Category: docs > > >Synopsis: No man pages for Make.conf or /usr/src/sys/Makefile > Oh dear. You've put a lot of work into this. Well, it's obvious to anyone who spends much time helping people in -questions that better sources for this information is needed, but doing the work doesn't mean it gets used. Which was why I asked jkh about a make.conf man page *before* putting a lot of time into it. He thought it was a good idea. In putting it together, I noticed that I had what was essentially a parallel to the ports(7) man page, so unbundled the build(7) man page from what I'd originally planned. There really needs to be a doc(7) (docs?) man page as well, but I don't know enough to write that one. > As someone who spends a lot of time pulling his hair out over stale > manual pages, these two scare me. To quote jkh - "any man page is better than no man page". If you don't have a man page, you have to check the sources. If you do and it's stale, you have to check the sources - only you've got historical clues to help you get started. > I honestly think that it's a bad idea to import these two. They > basically just duplicate the commentary in the files they document, and > I don't think it's too much to ask for folks to read the files > themselves. First, build(7) doesn't document a single file, but a process. Of course, it duplicates information in the files that take place in the process - but what man page doesn't duplicate information from the sources? Second, the bulk of the work I did was in the make.conf man page. If you look at /etc/defaults/make.conf - well, I'll do it for you: guru$ grep -v '^#' /etc/defaults/make.conf BDECFLAGS= -W -Wall -ansi -pedantic -Wbad-function-cast -Wcast-align \ -Wcast-qual -Wchar-subscripts -Wconversion -Winline \ -Wmissing-prototypes -Wnested-externs -Wpointer-arith \ -Wredundant-decls -Wshadow -Wstrict-prototypes -Wwrite-strings Unlike rc.conf (which *is* documented), that file is pretty much *all* comments. My suggestion would be to have someone with the commit bit sync the two again, possibly bringing in more of the default values, then replace everything but BDECFLAGS in /etc/defaults/make.conf with a comment about "see (or update) the make.conf(5) man page". Come to think of it, a similar pointer/reminder in /etc/defaults/rc.conf is probably a good idea in any case, as that page already exists. > It's great that you're getting stuck in and contributing, but I think > that these two aren't a good idea. :-( If you do what I suggested, then you've still got the source and one bit of documentation - only the documentation can take advantage of mdoc. As for the build(7) man page, it pulls together stuff that requires reading more than one file. ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 08:00:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id IAA46677; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 08:00:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from be-well.ilk.org (lowellg.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.184.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E341237B479 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 07:53:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from lowell@localhost) by be-well.ilk.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eA8FrUh29144; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 10:53:30 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lowell) Message-Id: <200011081553.eA8FrUh29144@be-well.ilk.org> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 10:53:30 -0500 (EST) From: lowell@world.std.com Reply-To: lowell@world.std.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/22694: submission of new FAQ text on fixing broken startup files Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 22694 >Category: docs >Synopsis: submission of new FAQ text on fixing broken startup files >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Nov 08 08:00:01 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Lowell Gilbert >Release: FreeBSD 4.2-BETA i386 >Organization: n/a >Environment: current FAQ >Description: For people who *read* the FAQ, this is trivial. However, people who *search* the FAQ will probably find it helpful. >How-To-Repeat: This gets asked regularly these days. >Fix: *** doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml~ Wed Nov 8 09:06:52 2000 --- doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq/book.sgml Wed Nov 8 10:15:13 2000 *************** *** 6077,6082 **** --- 6077,6096 ---- + + I made a mistake in my startup files, and now the box + won't boot: how do I fix my mistake? + + + See the + previous question, + except edit the startup file in question instead of doing + passwd root. + + + + + How do I keep Control-Alt-Delete from rebooting the system? >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 8 10:45:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from envy.geekhouse.net (envy.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC55B37B4CF for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 10:45:37 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jim@localhost) by envy.geekhouse.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eA8IjND90134; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 10:45:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 10:45:23 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: Josh Paetzel Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: conspectus for FreeBSD-questions Message-ID: <20001108104523.A90012@envy.geekhouse.net> Reply-To: jim@lust.geekhouse.net References: <000501c04996$46eaf820$0200000a@vladsempire.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.11i In-Reply-To: <000501c04996$46eaf820$0200000a@vladsempire.net>; from jpaetzel@hutchtel.net on Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 09:10:23AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 08 Nov 2000 at 09:10:23 -0600, Josh Paetzel wrote: > I would be willing to work on doing a cospectus for the freebsd > questions mailing list, and perhaps a FAQ for it as well.....let me > know if you are interested. Yes, we are :-) - jim -- jim mock work: jim@osd.bsdi.com | jim@FreeBSD.org http://soupnazi.org/ BSDi Open Source Div | http://bsdi.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 8 11:44:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.hutchtel.net (ns1.hutchtel.net [206.9.112.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DF0D37B479 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 11:44:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mark8 (hutch-517.hutchtel.net [206.9.112.156]) by ns1.hutchtel.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id NAA26831; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 13:44:25 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <003701c049bc$76e25e80$0200000a@vladsempire.net> From: "Josh Paetzel" To: Cc: References: <000501c04996$46eaf820$0200000a@vladsempire.net> <20001108104523.A90012@envy.geekhouse.net> Subject: Re: conspectus for FreeBSD-questions Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 13:40:54 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Mock" To: "Josh Paetzel" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 12:45 PM Subject: Re: conspectus for FreeBSD-questions > On Wed, 08 Nov 2000 at 09:10:23 -0600, Josh Paetzel wrote: > > I would be willing to work on doing a cospectus for the freebsd > > questions mailing list, and perhaps a FAQ for it as well.....let me > > know if you are interested. > > Yes, we are :-) > > - jim > I am available to start working on this immediately...is there any input that you would like to give me or anything of that nature? I have been subscribed to freebsd-questions off and on for the last couple of years, and I have been using freebsd since 2.1.5....although I am by no means a complete guru I know a little bit about a lot of different things....my talent is in explaining complicated things in layman's terms. Josh > -- > jim mock work: jim@osd.bsdi.com | jim@FreeBSD.org > http://soupnazi.org/ BSDi Open Source Div | http://bsdi.com > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 8 12:28:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A090B37B4C5 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 12:28:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17329 invoked by uid 0); 8 Nov 2000 20:28:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sliver2) (62.46.255.9) by mail.gmx.net (mail04) with SMTP; 8 Nov 2000 20:28:37 -0000 From: "Sliver" To: Subject: doc Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 21:25:56 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello Can you mail me the documentation of FreeBSD in html format?? Please send me also a mail if you won't send me a mail. thx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 8 13: 6:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE60C37B479 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 13:06:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eA8Fl9t00589; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:47:09 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:47:09 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Murray Stokely Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Tutorial: Intro to FreeBSD Programming Tools Message-ID: <20001108154709.A567@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from murray@osd.bsdi.com on Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 04:29:21PM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Oct 30, 2000 at 04:29:21PM -0800, Murray Stokely wrote: > I've been unable to contact James Raynard to ask for his permission > to integrate his tutorial into the Developer's Handbook. He's written > a lot of content that would fit very well into the chapter layout of > the almost completely unwritten DH. Does anyone have an updated email > address for him? Should I go ahead and integrate his tutorial into the > DH (still giving him full credit of course)? The only other James Raynard I see in my FreeBSD mail archives is jraynard@jraynard.demon.co.uk I've got no idea if that still works, or if it's the right person, but you should probably give it a try. If it's not the right person, and you can't contact him, I suggest integrating it, with a preface for each section acknowledging James' authorship, and asking him to get in touch with -doc if he happens to read it. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 8 13: 7: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFE9037B479; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 13:07:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eA8FoRN00600; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:50:27 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:50:27 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: REQ: Help finishing off docbook conversion Message-ID: <20001108155027.B567@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20001105211952.A41234@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <8294.973516026@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <8294.973516026@axl.fw.uunet.co.za>; from sheldonh@uunet.co.za on Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 03:07:06PM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 03:07:06PM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > However, the way you've done it looks nice. Thanks a stack, man! No problem. > Now I just need to get the docproj stuff installed on my box so that I > can test it myself. I wouldn't want to break the doc build without a > decent excuse. ;-) > > As an aside, what is the literallayout component of a media object > actually used for? For producing the plain text version. Basically, we make two HTML versions, one that includes images (and uses the as the alt attribute) and one that doesn't use images, and uses ASCII art instead. When you get the docproj stuff installed, try doing cd doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/vm-design/ make article.html make article.txt Then look at article.html, and admire the pretty pictures. Then look at article.txt, and marvel at the ASCII art. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 8 13:30: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE9D37B4C5 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 13:30:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA94880; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 13:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 5DF6637B479; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 13:29:15 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <20001108212915.5DF6637B479@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 13:29:15 -0800 (PST) From: darren@nighttide.net To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/22701: lists missing from search options Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 22701 >Category: docs >Synopsis: lists missing from search options >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Nov 08 13:30:01 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Darren Henderson >Release: 4.1.1-stable >Organization: >Environment: >Description: http://www.FreeBSD.org/search/search.html#mailinglists fails to offer the following mailing lists on the form: freebsd-policy freebsd-ipfw freebsd-core freebsd-hubs freebsd-install freebsd-www freebsd-security-notification You can place these in the url however and they work fine. Just need to be added to the form. >How-To-Repeat: Check out the web page >Fix: Simply add check boxes for the missing lists >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 8 13:40: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4244C37B4C5 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 13:40:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id NAA95898; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 13:40:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id A8E4037B479; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 13:33:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <20001108213313.A8E4037B479@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 13:33:13 -0800 (PST) From: darren@nighttide.net To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/22702: list discriptions missing from web page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 22702 >Category: docs >Synopsis: list discriptions missing from web page >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed Nov 08 13:40:00 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Darren Henderson >Release: 4.1.1-stable >Organization: >Environment: >Description: http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-MAIL does not list the following mailing lists freebsd-atm freebsd-commit freebsd-config freebsd-new-bus freebsd-realtime >How-To-Repeat: go to the url >Fix: Copy the descriptions from the mailing list search form to the indicated page. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 8 15:22: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from envy.geekhouse.net (envy.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08E2B37B479 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:22:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jim@localhost) by envy.geekhouse.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eA8NM2w00658; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:22:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:22:01 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: Josh Paetzel Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: conspectus for FreeBSD-questions Message-ID: <20001108152201.A522@envy.geekhouse.net> Reply-To: jim@lust.geekhouse.net References: <000501c04996$46eaf820$0200000a@vladsempire.net> <20001108104523.A90012@envy.geekhouse.net> <003701c049bc$76e25e80$0200000a@vladsempire.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.11i In-Reply-To: <003701c049bc$76e25e80$0200000a@vladsempire.net>; from jpaetzel@hutchtel.net on Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 01:40:54PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 08 Nov 2000 at 13:40:54 -0600, Josh Paetzel wrote: > > On Wed, 08 Nov 2000 at 09:10:23 -0600, Josh Paetzel wrote: > > > I would be willing to work on doing a cospectus for the freebsd > > > questions mailing list, and perhaps a FAQ for it as well.....let > > > me know if you are interested. > > > > Yes, we are :-) > > [snip..] > I am available to start working on this immediately...is there any > input that you would like to give me or anything of that nature? I > have been subscribed to freebsd-questions off and on for the last > couple of years, and I have been using freebsd since 2.1.5....although > I am by no means a complete guru I know a little bit about a lot of > different things....my talent is in explaining complicated things in > layman's terms. The only thing I can really suggest is that you take a look at the source for what's already there. If you have a local CVS repository, or are comfortable with using anoncvs, you can check it out using: cvs co www/en/conspectus Or you can use CVSup and grab the www stuff. Take a look at the www-supfile in /usr/share/examples/cvsup for more information. When you have it done, feel free to send it directly to me and I'll commit it. If you have any questions, let me know. - jim -- jim mock work: jim@osd.bsdi.com | jim@FreeBSD.org http://soupnazi.org/ BSDi Open Source Div | http://bsdi.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 8 18:29:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hii.com.tw (c130.h061013057.is.net.tw [61.13.57.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8276437B479 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 18:29:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from HINET [10.0.0.110] by hii.com.tw [61.13.57.130] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.8.5.0.R) for ; Thu, 09 Nov 2000 10:32:24 +0800 Message-ID: <002001c049f4$dbbb31a0$6e00000a@HINET> From: "ZOMBIT" To: Subject: Chinese Handbook.. Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 10:29:17 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01C04A37.E9B53EC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG X-Return-Path: frank.chen@hii.com.tw Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C04A37.E9B53EC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello..I will like to improve the chinese FreeBSD handbook.. so..what is the first step.. -- zombit=3Dhybrid(zombie,bit); -- ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C04A37.E9B53EC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C04A37.E9B53EC0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 8 21:25:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A24E37B479; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 21:25:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (from asmodai@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id VAA59246; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 21:25:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from asmodai@FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 21:25:13 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200011090525.VAA59246@freefall.freebsd.org> To: yamada-a@nextcom.co.jp, asmodai@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/22684: version higher than release Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: version higher than release State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: asmodai State-Changed-When: Wed Nov 8 21:24:53 PST 2000 State-Changed-Why: Committed to both CURRENT and STABLE. Thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22684 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 8 21:52:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C48A637B479; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 21:52:41 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eA8NfUX63331; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 23:41:30 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 23:41:20 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: nik@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docproj port still broken in 4.2-RELEASE Message-ID: <20001108234109.A1896@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <71578.973627269@winston.osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <71578.973627269@winston.osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com on Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 12:01:09PM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 12:01:09PM -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > ===> Cleaning for tidy-20000804 > ===> Cleaning for w3m-0.1.11.p.17 > ===> Cleaning for docproj-1.1 > make: don't know how to make all. Stop > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/src/release. > *** Error code 1 > > I'm going to have to disable docs for this build if we can't get > this fixed. :-( Working on it. It would be very helpful if you (or someone else) could forward me a copy of the ${CHROOTDIR}/mk shellscript when this happens, so I can try and replicate this without doing a full release. [ Yes, I know that in an ideal world I'd do a release -- however, in an ideal world I'd not be spending the majority of my time travelling, with a laptop that fails to suspend to disk/memory reliably. If I can duplicate this without needing to build a release I can try and get a fix faster. ] N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 8 22:42:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.hutchtel.net (ns1.hutchtel.net [206.9.112.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1257237B479 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 22:42:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mark8 (hutch-158.hutchtel.net [206.10.67.58]) by ns1.hutchtel.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id AAA28537; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 00:42:12 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <012101c04a18$5ce117e0$0200000a@vladsempire.net> From: "Josh Paetzel" To: Cc: References: <000501c04996$46eaf820$0200000a@vladsempire.net> <20001108104523.A90012@envy.geekhouse.net> <003701c049bc$76e25e80$0200000a@vladsempire.net> <20001108152201.A522@envy.geekhouse.net> Subject: Re: conspectus for FreeBSD-questions Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 00:43:24 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Mock" To: "Josh Paetzel" Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 5:22 PM Subject: Re: conspectus for FreeBSD-questions > On Wed, 08 Nov 2000 at 13:40:54 -0600, Josh Paetzel wrote: > > > On Wed, 08 Nov 2000 at 09:10:23 -0600, Josh Paetzel wrote: > > > > I would be willing to work on doing a cospectus for the freebsd > > > > questions mailing list, and perhaps a FAQ for it as well.....let > > > > me know if you are interested. > > > > > > Yes, we are :-) > > > > > [snip..] > > > I am available to start working on this immediately...is there any > > input that you would like to give me or anything of that nature? I > > have been subscribed to freebsd-questions off and on for the last > > couple of years, and I have been using freebsd since 2.1.5....although > > I am by no means a complete guru I know a little bit about a lot of > > different things....my talent is in explaining complicated things in > > layman's terms. > > The only thing I can really suggest is that you take a look at the > source for what's already there. If you have a local CVS repository, or > are comfortable with using anoncvs, you can check it out using: > > cvs co www/en/conspectus > > Or you can use CVSup and grab the www stuff. Take a look at the > www-supfile in /usr/share/examples/cvsup for more information. > > When you have it done, feel free to send it directly to me and I'll > commit it. If you have any questions, let me know. > > - jim > Ok...I grabbed www/en/conspectus, and I have looked through the doc project stuff on the freebsd.org website. I looked over the two conspectus' that are running, although one hasn't been updated in a while. I guess what I need is some policy input. There are a terrific number of threads in questions in a day...I am thinking that only issues that are resolved should be included, and things that get brought up many times (for instance, what's the largest IDE hard drive 3.4 supports?) should go into the FAQ and be ignored by the conspectus, but I don't want to step on the toes of the policy makers. This looks like it could be fairly time consuming and I don't want to waste a lot of effort going in the wrong direction. Josh > -- > jim mock work: jim@osd.bsdi.com | jim@FreeBSD.org > http://soupnazi.org/ BSDi Open Source Div | http://bsdi.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Nov 8 22:54:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nemesis.uk.clara.net (nemesis.uk.clara.net [195.8.69.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEF5E37B479 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 22:54:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from du-014-0049.claranet.co.uk ([195.8.78.49] helo=biscuit.localdomain) by nemesis.uk.clara.net with smtp (Exim 3.13 #2) id 13tlbO-000Ej1-00; Thu, 09 Nov 2000 06:54:27 +0000 From: George Richard Russell Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 18:34:14 +0000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To: "Baysun Timur" , References: <000101c048da$db7dd0a0$0101a8c0@baysunmybizz.net> In-Reply-To: <000101c048da$db7dd0a0$0101a8c0@baysunmybizz.net> Subject: Re: Sun's Forte-for-java and Oracle8.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00110718341401.00248@biscuit.localdomain> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-RBL-Warning: (dul.maps.vix.com) See Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Tuesday 07 November 2000 4:50 pm, Baysun Timur wrote: > Can I install Sun's IDE Forte-for-java It will work on any Unix with JDK 1.2.x or greater Be sure and brandelf the fastjavac program in INSTALL_PATH/bin/fastjavac You could use either the linux-jdk or the freebsd native jdk, but be aware that the freebsd native 1.2 jdk is still in testing. > How about java1.3 and JDBC 2.0 ? Java 1.3 - yes, the Linux Jdk 1.3 will run. Its not in ports though, AFAIK. Be aware that you have to use brandelf, and set library paths, and set the jvm to use -classic as the vm type, i.e. turn off the JIT compiler. HTH George Russell -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjoISyYACgkQfhCCkEwuhFED7gCfW4TsSV1875t7+NiOAINYZsBl w78AoKYNhC6PcHsQUEDt2d/G3psg4nzr =N/OU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 9 0:10:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from envy.geekhouse.net (envy.geekhouse.net [64.81.6.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80DDF37B4C5 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 00:10:35 -0800 (PST) Received: (from jim@localhost) by envy.geekhouse.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id eA98AXx03046; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 00:10:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 00:10:33 -0800 From: Jim Mock To: Josh Paetzel Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: conspectus for FreeBSD-questions Message-ID: <20001109001032.B2961@envy.geekhouse.net> Reply-To: jim@lust.geekhouse.net References: <000501c04996$46eaf820$0200000a@vladsempire.net> <20001108104523.A90012@envy.geekhouse.net> <003701c049bc$76e25e80$0200000a@vladsempire.net> <20001108152201.A522@envy.geekhouse.net> <012101c04a18$5ce117e0$0200000a@vladsempire.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.11i In-Reply-To: <012101c04a18$5ce117e0$0200000a@vladsempire.net>; from jpaetzel@hutchtel.net on Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 12:43:24AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 09 Nov 2000 at 00:43:24 -0600, Josh Paetzel wrote: > > On Wed, 08 Nov 2000 at 13:40:54 -0600, Josh Paetzel wrote: > > > > On Wed, 08 Nov 2000 at 09:10:23 -0600, Josh Paetzel wrote: > > > > > I would be willing to work on doing a cospectus for the > > > > > freebsd questions mailing list, and perhaps a FAQ for it as > > > > > well.....let me know if you are interested. > > > > > > > > Yes, we are :-) > > > > > > > > [snip..] > > > > > I am available to start working on this immediately...is there any > > > input that you would like to give me or anything of that nature? > > > I have been subscribed to freebsd-questions off and on for the > > > last couple of years, and I have been using freebsd since 2.1.5.... > > > although I am by no means a complete guru I know a little bit > > > about a lot of different things....my talent is in explaining > > > complicated things in layman's terms. > > > > The only thing I can really suggest is that you take a look at the > > source for what's already there. If you have a local CVS > > repository, or are comfortable with using anoncvs, you can check it > > out using: > > > > cvs co www/en/conspectus > > > > Or you can use CVSup and grab the www stuff. Take a look at the > > www-supfile in /usr/share/examples/cvsup for more information. > > > > When you have it done, feel free to send it directly to me and I'll > > commit it. If you have any questions, let me know. > > > > Ok...I grabbed www/en/conspectus, and I have looked through the doc > project stuff on the freebsd.org website. I looked over the two > conspectus' that are running, although one hasn't been updated in a > while. I guess what I need is some policy input. There are a > terrific number of threads in questions in a day...I am thinking that > only issues that are resolved should be included, and things that get > brought up many times (for instance, what's the largest IDE hard drive > 3.4 supports?) should go into the FAQ and be ignored by the conspectus, > but I don't want to step on the toes of the policy makers. Yeah, to be honest, I don't know if we actually thought anyone would pick up the -questions list :-) I tend to agree that only resolved questions should be included, otherwise there will be a bunch of random crud scattered throughout it that doesn't make much sense when put along with the rest of it. The things that are brought up a lot should definitely be put into the FAQ.. that's kind of where some of it's sections have come from (when people get sick of saying the same things over and over again). > This looks like it could be fairly time consuming and I don't want to > waste a lot of effort going in the wrong direction. At least you know what you're in for :-) - jim -- jim mock work: jim@osd.bsdi.com | jim@FreeBSD.org http://soupnazi.org/ BSDi Open Source Div | http://bsdi.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 9 0:20: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA2D237B479 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 00:20:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id AAA85763; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 00:20:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 00:20:01 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011090820.AAA85763@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Sheldon Hearn Subject: Re: docs/22676: No man pages for Make.conf or /usr/src/sys/Makefile Reply-To: Sheldon Hearn Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/22676; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Sheldon Hearn To: Mike Meyer Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/22676: No man pages for Make.conf or /usr/src/sys/Makefile Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 10:10:12 +0200 On Wed, 08 Nov 2000 09:30:32 CST, Mike Meyer wrote: > First, build(7) doesn't document a single file, but a process. Of > course, it duplicates information in the files that take place in the > process - but what man page doesn't duplicate information from the > sources? You're right. I stand down for build(7) (in other words, I think it's a good idea), but still don't think that make.conf(5) is a good idea. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 9 4: 0: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BEB637B4C5 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 04:00:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id EAA15458; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 04:00:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.enteract.com (mail.enteract.com [207.229.143.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B5137B479 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 03:52:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from jamestown.enteract.com (207-229-151-212.d.enteract.com [207.229.151.212]) by mail.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA56562 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 05:52:10 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jtm@enteract.com) Received: (from jtm@localhost) by jamestown.enteract.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id FAA94306; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 05:27:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jtm) Message-Id: <200011091127.FAA94306@jamestown.enteract.com> Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 05:27:48 -0600 (CST) From: jtm63@enteract.com Reply-To: jtm63@enteract.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/22714: mkisofs man page Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 22714 >Category: docs >Synopsis: The -print-size option needs more explanation >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Nov 09 04:00:01 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: James McNaughton >Release: FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE i386 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: In the man page for mkisofs in the section for -print-size no indication is given of the units for the number returned. This can be confusing. It sure confused me. >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: Indicate the units for the number returned. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 9 7:16:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [212.136.216.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCA5B37B4D7 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 07:16:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eA9F2eA00953 for doc@freebsd.org; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 15:02:40 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 15:02:40 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: doc/ tree soft freeze for 4.2 Message-ID: <20001109150240.A937@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, I'm going to do a soft freeze for 4.2. Specifically, I'm going to check out a copy of the doc repo some time over the weekend, check that it builds correctly, and then lay down the tag. There's much less potential for doc/ to break the build, so I'm going to be happy to slide tags on .sgml files right up to release time. I'm not going to slide tags on the .mk and other infrastructure files unless there's a compelling reason to. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 9 7:17:12 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [212.136.216.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE5537B479 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 07:17:07 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eA9BPsX00486; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 11:25:54 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 11:25:54 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/22676: No man pages for Make.conf or /usr/src/sys/Makefile Message-ID: <20001109112554.B425@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200011081220.EAA13896@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200011081220.EAA13896@freefall.freebsd.org>; from sheldonh@uunet.co.za on Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 04:20:04AM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 04:20:04AM -0800, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > >Number: 22676 > > >Category: docs > > >Synopsis: No man pages for Make.conf or /usr/src/sys/Makefile > > Oh dear. You've put a lot of work into this. > > As someone who spends a lot of time pulling his hair out over stale > manual pages, these two scare me. > > I honestly think that it's a bad idea to import these two. They > basically just duplicate the commentary in the files they document, and > I don't think it's too much to ask for folks to read the files > themselves. I'm inclined to disagree. Otherwise we could ditch rc.conf(5), periodic.conf(5), and others -- fstab(5) could be lost if we made sure that /etc/fstab was sufficiently well commented, for example. I understand that keeping them up to date is a chore, but I think as long as they include a caveat that says something like BUGS This man page may lag behind the actual contents of the file, please read the comments in the file for any new functionality. then we should be OK. I'm also more than happy to support any committer whacking you want to do when someone commits to /etc/make.conf without updating make.conf(5) (and we should probably put a comment in the top of /etc/make.conf saying exactly that. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 9 7:17:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [212.136.216.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74BB737B4CF; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 07:17:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eA9BLmN00458; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 11:21:48 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 11:21:48 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@freebsd.org Cc: ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: An opportunity for FreeBSD Message-ID: <20001109112148.A425@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20000918212800.L567@parish> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20000918212800.L567@parish>; from marko@freebsd.org on Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 09:28:00PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mark, Long quote retained for context. On Mon, Sep 18, 2000 at 09:28:00PM +0100, Mark Ovens wrote: > Some time ago Andrew Boothman produced a couple of perl scripts to > collate all the documentation for ports/packages installed on a > machine and produce an HTML index file of it. It was suggested that > this could be extended to become part of the ports/packages mechanism > so that the index was automatically updated whenever a port/package > was installed or uninstalled. This got a rather cool reception from > the ports people (after all, no-one gets excited about having even > more work to do :)). > > I recently picked up this project, partly because I think it's a good > idea, and partly because it provides a good vehicle for me to use to > learn perl(1). > > Nik Clayton told me about a similar project that was starting up: > > "There's another angle I think that's worth investigating. At the > O'Reilly docs summit a couple of months back, representatives from > the GNOME, KDE, and Linux documentation projects were all looking > at the similar problem of getting apps to register their > documentation, and also to try and provide an interface over and > above simple HTML." > > I fired off an e-mail to a couple of contacts Nik gave me, one of the > replies I got is included at the end of this mail. As you can see the > project is only just getting started and as yet no code has been > produced. Currently the webpage mentioned in the e-mail has been taken > down as they discovered that the name "Dewey" (from the Dewey-decimel > system used for cataloguing by libraries) was trade-marked. The > project is looking for a new name. > > I believe that it would be a Good Thing (TM) for FreeBSD to join this > project for several reasons: > > 1. We really should have a mechanism for indexing the docs > installed by the ports/packages. > > 2. By adopting Dewey (or whatever it becomes known as) rather > than developing our own system we will reduce the work involved > in implementation and maintenance. > > 3. It will help raise the visibility of FreeBSD in a predominately > Linux environment. > > If we get involved now, at the outset, we will have a say in the > design and development of the system (i.e. prevent it becoming overly > Linux-specific) and get FreeBSD-specifics in the base source code. As > you might expect, this is going to be GPL'd (down Brett, down boy ;)) > but I doubt that we will change that, however it would become an Open > Source project, rather than a Linux project (that FreeBSD may possibly > adopt in the future). > > As to the additional work that this will make for port maintainers if > Dewey is adopted will be considerably less than using our own system. > For larger ports whose projects support Dewey, e.g. KDE, GNOME, etc., > there should be no work at all as the meta-data will be in the source > tar-balls and for ports without the meta-data included we should be > able to automate its generation (although some hand tweaking may be > necessary). > > Furthermore, this extra work is likely to be a one-off occurrence > since document files are rarely added/removed/renamed, only the > content is changed. > > The only other areas where work will be needed is for bsd.port.mk(?) > to be modified to call Dewey as part of the install target (I expect > that Dewey will be able to determine if the port has any docs to > register). pkg_add(1) will also need modifying to do the same thing > when installing packages and pkg_delete(1) to call Dewey to > de-register the docs when a port/package is uninstalled. > > I have subscribed to the mailing list (which is rather quiet at the > moment, but should liven up once code is available) and would like to > be able to announce that FreeBSD is "officially" supporting the > project (which means a committment to adopting Dewey for the > ports/packages when it reaches production quality). I am willing to > act as co-ordinator for this and will attempt to do most of the work. > > I also intend to lobby the {Net,Open}BSD docs people to support Dewey. > If all three projects get involved it will, IMHO, give *BSD a big > presence (and influence) in a Linux project. Any news on this? N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 9 7:17:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (unknown [212.136.216.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C6037B479; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 07:17:15 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.0/8.11.0) id eA9F5Vt00969; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 10:05:31 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 10:05:31 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: Nik Clayton Cc: Jordan Hubbard , stable@freebsd.org, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docproj port still broken in 4.2-RELEASE Message-ID: <20001109100531.A911@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <71578.973627269@winston.osd.bsdi.com> <20001109002321.B1896@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001109002321.B1896@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 12:23:21AM +0000 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Nov 09, 2000 at 12:23:21AM +0000, Nik Clayton wrote: > On Tue, Nov 07, 2000 at 12:01:09PM -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > ===> Cleaning for tidy-20000804 > > ===> Cleaning for w3m-0.1.11.p.17 > > ===> Cleaning for docproj-1.1 > > make: don't know how to make all. Stop > > *** Error code 2 > > > > Stop in /usr/src/release. > > *** Error code 1 > > > > I'm going to have to disable docs for this build if we can't get > > this fixed. :-( > > Some questions, for anyone that's building a release, and can afford to > spend some time poking around on my behalf; > > (1) Are you building this with a specific RELEASETAG? If so, what is it? I've done some more reading of src/release/Makefile in the free time at NLUUG. You're setting ${RELEASETAG} aren't you. This is going to cause ${AUXRELEASETAG} to be set to something like RELEASE_4_2. I haven't tagged the doc/ tree yet. That's going to cause cvs -R -d ${CVSROOT} co -P -r ${AUXRELEASETAG} ${RELEASEDOCMODULE} to fail to actually check anything out. So the usr/doc tree in the chroot'dir will be empty. Which explains. . . > The "make: don't know how to make all. Stop" line is consistent with > running make(1) in a directory that doesn't contain a {m,M}akefile. I think AUXRELEASETAG needs to die, and be replaced by PORTSRELEASETAG and DOCRELEASETAG, to be defined on the command line by whoever is doing "make release". We should probably also have a "goldmaster" target, or similar, that checks that PORTSRELEASETAG and DOCRELEASETAG are set, before going on to run release. Then, when you build the final CD ISO, you can do "make goldmaster" instead. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 9 10:45:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from 2711.dynacom.net (2711.dynacom.net [206.107.213.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A24F37B479; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 10:45:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from urx.com (dsl1-160.dynacom.net [206.159.132.160]) by 2711.dynacom.net (Build 101 8.9.3/NT-8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA04389; Thu, 09 Nov 2000 10:45:16 -0800 Message-ID: <3A0AF0BC.1CBDCF86@urx.com> Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 10:45:16 -0800 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nik Clayton Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: doc/ tree soft freeze for 4.2 References: <20001109150240.A937@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nik Clayton wrote: > > Hi folks, > > I'm going to do a soft freeze for 4.2. Specifically, I'm going to check > out a copy of the doc repo some time over the weekend, check that it > builds correctly, and then lay down the tag. There's much less potential > for doc/ to break the build, so I'm going to be happy to slide tags on > .sgml files right up to release time. I'm not going to slide tags on the > .mk and other infrastructure files unless there's a compelling reason to. Since it time for the freeze, the handbook that goes out with the CDROM should be updated to have cvs tags for RELENG_4_2_0_RELEASE. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 9 11:30: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E43537B479 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 11:30:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA82877; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 11:30:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 11:30:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011091930.LAA82877@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Mike Meyer Subject: Re: docs/22676: No man pages for Make.conf or /usr/src/sys/Makefile Reply-To: Mike Meyer Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/22676; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Mike Meyer To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/22676: No man pages for Make.conf or /usr/src/sys/Makefile Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 13:22:59 -0600 (CST) Sheldon Hearn types: > On Wed, 08 Nov 2000 09:30:32 CST, Mike Meyer wrote: > > First, build(7) doesn't document a single file, but a process. Of > > course, it duplicates information in the files that take place in the > > process - but what man page doesn't duplicate information from the > > sources? > You're right. I stand down for build(7) (in other words, I think it's a > good idea), but still don't think that make.conf(5) is a good idea. Even though I've shown you how to do things so this doesn't make the stale documentation problem any worse than it already is, and it improves the accessibility of the documentation? ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 12:49:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by acs-nt1.acs.rochester.edu with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 15:53:11 -0500 Message-ID: <16AC7B80DB9BF44588C90C8EA99854EB05325F@acs-exc1.acs.rochester.edu> From: markp@utd.rochester.edu To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Trouble finding info Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 15:52:39 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Whom It May Concern: I am attempting my first installation of Free BSD, and yes I am pretty green. The ppp tutorial references network card device names, as in: Other models of network adapters may have different device names in FreeBSD. Check the FAQ for specifics about your network adapter. If you're not sure of the device name of your adapter, check the FreeBSD FAQ to determine the device name for the card you have and substitute that name (i.e.: 'de0', 'zp0', or similar) in the following steps. However, I am using a 3ComElink III. It is on the Hardware Configuration List, but the installation routine for Free BSD makes no reference to 3Com, and nowhere in the FAQ can I find device names for specific cards, just the few chipset choices found in the installation script. Thank you, Mark Pierce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 9 14:27:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D67A237B4CF; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 14:27:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eA9MRJI21049; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 14:27:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com) To: Nik Clayton Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: docproj port still broken in 4.2-RELEASE In-Reply-To: Message from Nik Clayton of "Thu, 09 Nov 2000 10:05:31 GMT." <20001109100531.A911@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 14:27:19 -0800 Message-ID: <21045.973808839@winston.osd.bsdi.com> From: Jordan Hubbard Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I've done some more reading of src/release/Makefile in the free time at > NLUUG. > > You're setting ${RELEASETAG} aren't you. I can see your analysis exactly mirrors the one I sent to you and Satoshi at 3am last night. :-) Do you want to change the variable names along the lines we both so clearly agree on? - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 9 14:32:52 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.hutchtel.net (ns1.hutchtel.net [206.9.112.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E19237B4C5 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 14:32:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from mark8 (hutch-760.hutchtel.net [206.10.71.60]) by ns1.hutchtel.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id QAA24297; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 16:32:43 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <006d01c04a9d$29f7cb00$0200000a@vladsempire.net> From: "Josh Paetzel" To: , References: <16AC7B80DB9BF44588C90C8EA99854EB05325F@acs-exc1.acs.rochester.edu> Subject: Re: Trouble finding info Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 16:34:02 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, November 09, 2000 2:52 PM Subject: Trouble finding info > To Whom It May Concern: > > I am attempting my first installation of Free BSD, and yes I am pretty > green. The ppp tutorial references network card device names, as in: > Other models of network adapters may have different device names in FreeBSD. > Check the FAQ for specifics about your network adapter. If you're not sure > of the device name of your adapter, check the FreeBSD FAQ to determine the > device name for the card you have and substitute that name (i.e.: 'de0', > 'zp0', or similar) in the following steps. > However, I am using a 3ComElink III. It is on the Hardware Configuration > List, but the installation routine for Free BSD makes no reference to 3Com, > and nowhere in the FAQ can I find device names for specific cards, just the > few chipset choices found in the installation script. > > Thank you, > Mark Pierce > This is more of an issue, I think, for the questions mailing list. I think that you are wondering what the device name of your network card is under FreeBSD. Send the output of dmesg and we'll be able to tell you what the device name is. I am sure that there are some out there who know what it is off the top of their head, but I don't. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Nov 9 16:23:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.hutchtel.net (ns1.hutchtel.net [206.9.112.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A696437B479 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 16:23:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mark8 (hutch-752.hutchtel.net [206.10.71.52]) by ns1.hutchtel.net (8.9.1/8.9.0) with SMTP id SAA03832; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 18:23:21 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <00d901c04aac$9dd9c960$0200000a@vladsempire.net> From: "Josh Paetzel" To: Cc: References: <000501c04996$46eaf820$0200000a@vladsempire.net> <20001108104523.A90012@envy.geekhouse.net> <003701c049bc$76e25e80$0200000a@vladsempire.net> <20001108152201.A522@envy.geekhouse.net> <012101c04a18$5ce117e0$0200000a@vladsempire.net> <20001109001032.B2961@envy.geekhouse.net> Subject: Re: conspectus for FreeBSD-questions Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 18:24:39 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Yeah, to be honest, I don't know if we actually thought anyone would > pick up the -questions list :-) I tend to agree that only resolved > questions should be included, otherwise there will be a bunch of random > crud scattered throughout it that doesn't make much sense when put along > with the rest of it. > > The things that are brought up a lot should definitely be put into the > FAQ.. that's kind of where some of it's sections have come from (when > people get sick of saying the same things over and over again). > I am thinking about a freebsd-questions FAQ, as in, please read before you post to freebsd-questions, not the general freebsd-FAQ. I think this would help to keep some of the redundant questions down....it would also give you/us another chance to put in the plea to please use a meaningful topic when you post and so on and so forth. I pulled down the docproj port and all that....Are you thinking that I would modify the webpage that people use to access the conspectus? If so I will need to throw some more drives in my FreeBSD box....I don't think I have the 600 megs free that it takes to build the webpages. I was hoping that I could just do the conspectus (that will be a project enough the way I see it) and someone else could merge it into the website. Let me know, I have plenty of drives sitting around, it is just a pain to take my FBSD box down as it is my gateway to the internet. > > This looks like it could be fairly time consuming and I don't want to > > waste a lot of effort going in the wrong direction. > > At least you know what you're in for :-) I like the pain...I am thinking that I am going to try to get a conspectus done for next week. Playing with SGML right now. Josh > > - jim > > -- > jim mock work: jim@osd.bsdi.com | jim@FreeBSD.org > http://soupnazi.org/ BSDi Open Source Div | http://bsdi.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 10 0:10: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD9F437B4C5 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id AAA87272; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 00:10:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011100810.AAA87272@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Sheldon Hearn Subject: Re: docs/22676: No man pages for Make.conf or /usr/src/sys/Makefile Reply-To: Sheldon Hearn Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/22676; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Sheldon Hearn To: Mike Meyer Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/22676: No man pages for Make.conf or /usr/src/sys/Makefile Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 10:02:56 +0200 On Thu, 09 Nov 2000 13:22:59 CST, Mike Meyer wrote: > Even though I've shown you how to do things so this doesn't make the > stale documentation problem any worse than it already is, and it > improves the accessibility of the documentation? Yup. However, I do think that my argument is mostly emotional. :-) I have this pretty deep-seated feeling that manpages that document the obvious aren't good. However, you can probably just ignore everything I've said, given Nik Clayton's counter argument and the fact that I have nothing to say in answer to it. :-) Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 10 0:50: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29B5237B479 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 00:50:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id AAA91680; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 00:50:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 00:50:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011100850.AAA91680@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Mike Meyer Subject: Re: docs/22676: No man pages for Make.conf or /usr/src/sys/Makefile Reply-To: Mike Meyer Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/22676; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Mike Meyer To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: Subject: Re: docs/22676: No man pages for Make.conf or /usr/src/sys/Makefile Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 02:32:25 -0600 (CST) Sheldon Hearn types: > On Thu, 09 Nov 2000 13:22:59 CST, Mike Meyer wrote: > > Even though I've shown you how to do things so this doesn't make the > > stale documentation problem any worse than it already is, and it > > improves the accessibility of the documentation? > Yup. However, I do think that my argument is mostly emotional. :-) I actually expected that to be the case. Changing someone's mind via email is nearly impossible. > I have this pretty deep-seated feeling that manpages that document the > obvious aren't good. I actually agree with that - what you need in those cases is a man page pointing out where "the obvious" can be found. For make.conf, that information is the comments in /etc/defaults/make.conf, so you might as well just maintain the man page as the comments. For periodic.conf and rc.conf, that doesn't make as much sense - but we've got man pages for those already. > However, you can probably just ignore everything I've said, given Nik > Clayton's counter argument and the fact that I have nothing to say in > answer to it. :-) I haven't seen that mail. It's not attached to the PR. Could you tell me where it showed up, or possibly forward it to me? Thanx, ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 00:50:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id AAA91699; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 00:50:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 00:50:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011100850.AAA91699@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: docs/22676: No man pages for Make.conf or /usr/src/sys/Makefile Reply-To: Nik Clayton Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/22676; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Nik Clayton To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/22676: No man pages for Make.conf or /usr/src/sys/Makefile Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 11:25:54 +0000 On Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 04:20:04AM -0800, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > >Number: 22676 > > >Category: docs > > >Synopsis: No man pages for Make.conf or /usr/src/sys/Makefile > > Oh dear. You've put a lot of work into this. > > As someone who spends a lot of time pulling his hair out over stale > manual pages, these two scare me. > > I honestly think that it's a bad idea to import these two. They > basically just duplicate the commentary in the files they document, and > I don't think it's too much to ask for folks to read the files > themselves. I'm inclined to disagree. Otherwise we could ditch rc.conf(5), periodic.conf(5), and others -- fstab(5) could be lost if we made sure that /etc/fstab was sufficiently well commented, for example. I understand that keeping them up to date is a chore, but I think as long as they include a caveat that says something like BUGS This man page may lag behind the actual contents of the file, please read the comments in the file for any new functionality. then we should be OK. I'm also more than happy to support any committer whacking you want to do when someone commits to /etc/make.conf without updating make.conf(5) (and we should probably put a comment in the top of /etc/make.conf saying exactly that. N -- Internet connection, $19.95 a month. Computer, $799.95. Modem, $149.95. Telephone line, $24.95 a month. Software, free. USENET transmission, hundreds if not thousands of dollars. Thinking before posting, priceless. Somethings in life you can't buy. For everything else, there's MasterCard. -- Graham Reed, in the Scary Devil Monastery To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 10 0:56:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-149-77.mmcable.com [24.27.149.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0CFBF37B4D7 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 00:56:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 12753 invoked by uid 100); 10 Nov 2000 08:56:46 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14859.47182.605198.1071@guru.mired.org> Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 02:56:46 -0600 (CST) To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/22676: No man pages for Make.conf or /usr/src/sys/Makefile In-Reply-To: <22691.973845815@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> References: <14859.45721.798233.662850@guru.mired.org> <22691.973845815@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sheldon Hearn types: > On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 02:32:25 CST, Mike Meyer wrote: > > I haven't seen that mail. It's not attached to the PR. Could you tell > > me where it showed up, or possibly forward it to me? > *grumble* *grumble* It always annoys me when folks mail the responsible > mailing list instead of copying their follow-up to the gnats handler. > I'll get Nik's message into gnats. For now, it's included in this > message. Thank you. To reply to a comment from Nik Clayton: > I understand that keeping them up to date is a chore, but I think as long > as they include a caveat that says something like > > BUGS > > This man page may lag behind the actual contents of the file, please > read the comments in the file for any new functionality. The man page references /etc/defaults/make.conf. And since Nik pointed out the relation to periodic.conf & rc.conf, they could use the same caveat. > then we should be OK. I'm also more than happy to support any committer > whacking you want to do when someone commits to /etc/make.conf without > updating make.conf(5) (and we should probably put a comment in the top of > /etc/make.conf saying exactly that. I hope you meant /etc/defaults/make.conf. /etc/make.conf isn't there until someone creates it post-install. Similar comments would be even more effective in the other file sin /etc/defaults. ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 01:00:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id BAA92784; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 01:00:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 01:00:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011100900.BAA92784@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Mike Meyer Subject: Re: docs/22676: No man pages for Make.conf or /usr/src/sys/Makefile Reply-To: Mike Meyer Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/22676; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Mike Meyer To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/22676: No man pages for Make.conf or /usr/src/sys/Makefile Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 02:56:46 -0600 (CST) Sheldon Hearn types: > On Fri, 10 Nov 2000 02:32:25 CST, Mike Meyer wrote: > > I haven't seen that mail. It's not attached to the PR. Could you tell > > me where it showed up, or possibly forward it to me? > *grumble* *grumble* It always annoys me when folks mail the responsible > mailing list instead of copying their follow-up to the gnats handler. > I'll get Nik's message into gnats. For now, it's included in this > message. Thank you. To reply to a comment from Nik Clayton: > I understand that keeping them up to date is a chore, but I think as long > as they include a caveat that says something like > > BUGS > > This man page may lag behind the actual contents of the file, please > read the comments in the file for any new functionality. The man page references /etc/defaults/make.conf. And since Nik pointed out the relation to periodic.conf & rc.conf, they could use the same caveat. > then we should be OK. I'm also more than happy to support any committer > whacking you want to do when someone commits to /etc/make.conf without > updating make.conf(5) (and we should probably put a comment in the top of > /etc/make.conf saying exactly that. I hope you meant /etc/defaults/make.conf. /etc/make.conf isn't there until someone creates it post-install. Similar comments would be even more effective in the other file sin /etc/defaults. ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 01:49:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from venus3 [210.214.36.180] by venusinteractive.com [64.23.0.110] with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.1.1.R) for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 16:53:19 +0000 From: "Subramaniam T." 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------=_NextPart_000_0000_01C04B29.76E47580-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 10 6:36: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A34F37B479 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 06:36:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eAAEZsY97850 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 23:35:54 +0900 (JST) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 23:35:54 +0900 Message-ID: <7m4s1fgaid.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: Documentation Team Subject: New syncstat URL User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.3.92 (Roam) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 12) (Channel Islands) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've modified syncstat and move to new location. http://www.jp.FreeBSD.org/doc-jp/syncstat/ And scripts for this is available via CVSweb http://www.jp.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/doc-jp/syncstat/?cvsroot=freebsd-jp or CVSup with: ----- *default host=cvsup.jp.FreeBSD.org doc-jp ----- Be aware old scripts (sync*.pl and conf/*) is not yet removed. Please refer Makefile in syncstat directory. -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 10 8:16:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from tsmtp2.mail.isp (unknown [195.235.113.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AADB037B479 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 08:16:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from terra.es ([193.152.206.254]) by tsmtp2.mail.isp (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G3TH4N04.J57; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 17:14:47 +0100 From: "Top Cars" To: "Spain visitor"@FreeBSD.ORG, Spain_Visit@spain.com Subject: Spain special car rental offer Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 17'16'24 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20001110161629.AADB037B479@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org
Top Cars Rental S.L.
    Malaga - Fuengirola            top_spain@mail.com
    Telephones     Ireland     +353-(0)1.6612.929
                                Norway    +47-2242.4970
                                Germany +49-(0)1805.225.751 
                                Malaga     +34-95258.7048
                                                                            Telefax     +34-95258.7234
 
Hi there,
 
We have been told that you could be planning to pay us a visit here in sunny Spain.
If you are coming to Malaga, it is a pleasure for us to be at your service with car-rental
and green-fees.
 
Our special car-rental offer for this winter is as follows :
Please quote discount code GER1310 when reserving.
 
Weekly prices valid until 5th of March 2001
Except from 15th December 2000 till 10th January 2001 where 15% extra charge is applied
Top Cars includes : 100% full insurance with no excess (deductible).

Group

Description

Normal price

Special offer

If reserved early(*)

BA
Seat Arosa 3 doors (**)
Power steering, Air-condition
 23.900 pts
DM 284,52
21.900 pts
DM 260,71
 20.805 pts
DM 247,67

DA
Fiat Punto 5 doors
Power steering, Air-condition
 29.900 pts
DM 355,95
 26.900 pts
DM 320,23
 25.555 pts
DM 304,22

F
Mid-size sedan 5 doors
Full equipped
 35.900 pts
DM 427,38
 30.900 pts
DM 367,85
 29.355 pts
DM 349,46

FB
Mid-size station-wagon
Full equipped
 37.900 pts
DM 451,19
 33.900 pts
DM 403,57
 32.205 pts
DM 383,39

JA
6 seater people-carrier
Full equipped
58.000 pts
DM 690,47
49.300 pts
DM 690,47
46.835 pts
DM 557,55

JS
8-9 seater people-carrier
Full equipped
68.000 pts
DM 809,52
59.800 pts
DM 711,90
56.810 pts
DM 676,30

If a specific car is not available, it will be substituted with a model of similar or better specifications.
(*) Reservations made minimum 2 weeks before arrival.
(**) The Seat Arosa is not recommended for more than 3 persons and luggage.
The prices includes unlimited mileage, all local taxes, personal accident insurance, collission insurance
and 24 hours road assistance.
NOT included in the price : Gasoline, baby-seats, night delivery, wheels, tires and loss of car keys.
Minimum age : 25 year and 2 years driving licence. If driver is younger than 25 years, please consult.
 
If you want to know our green-fee offers, please drop us a note, and we'll send it to you as soon as
possible.
 
When reserving the vehicle it is extremely important to let us know the following :
            Your full name
            Arrival date, arrival time and flight number
            Departure date, departure time and flight number
            Number of persons in your party (Adults & children)
            Contact telephone and/or telefax number in your country
            Your e-mail address
As well you can speed up airport delivery considerably if you let us know :
            Your home address
            Your address in Spain if available
            Your passport number, date and place of issue
            Your driving licence number and expiry date
            Mobile telephone or other contact number in Spain
 
Or you can make the reservation on our web www.topcars-holidays.com
If you make the reservation through our web-page, please put the discount code GER1310 in
parenthesis after you surname so we can apply you the correct discounts.
 
Looking forward to hearing from you soon, and seeing you down here.
 
Best regards,
 
The Top Cars Team
To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 10 15:33:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from cnxtsmtp2.conexant.com (cnxtsmtp2.conexant.com [198.62.9.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0792D37B479 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:33:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from npbsmtp1.conexant.com (npbsmtp1.nb.conexant.com [157.152.161.153]) by cnxtsmtp2.conexant.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA28875 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 15:32:18 -0800 (PST) From: nick.dietz@conexant.com Subject: Install program problems. To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.4a July 24, 2000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 17:30:08 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on NPBSMTP1/Server/Conexant(Release 5.0.5 |September 22, 2000) at 11/10/2000 03:33:14 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have some problems that I want to report, but don't know who to report them to. The only email address I found that might be applicable is this one. Please let me know if I should address these bug reports to somebody else. I am installing on a fairly unique system. (4.1.1-RELEASE and 3.4-RELEASE) It is a TEKNOR compactPCI processor card. (Info available upon request.) I noticed two bugs in the installation program (or somewhere anyway). First: there are two network cards on this system, but no CDROM. I tried to do a network install from the first network card, but it failed. I discovered (using a packet sniffer) that the install program was checking the first network card for connectivity, and then dutifully sending all of the ftp requests on the SECOND card! I had to have both cards plugged in to the hub in order to get the install to proceed. This was _not_ easy to track down. Second: (and this might really be a documentation problem). I tried to put a copy of the CD on an ftp server (running on a windows box). Then I tried to install from there. It failed, saying it could not find the release. It seems to look for a directory named 4.1.1-RELEASE (or whatever is set in the options menu). The documentation says that you can simply mount a cd on an ftp server and be done with it. It should really spell out how to go about doing this (in 2.2.1.6.2 of the handbook maybe?). i.e. map the cdrom drive to a directory with a name that matches the distribution. (?is this right?) Also, the installation then fails when it gets to installing the ports collection, because it is looking for ports.inf, which does not exist on the CD. (This I see from my ftp log file.) If I point the install to the ftp.freebsd.org server at this point the installation can continue, but it sure goes a lot slower over our miserable internet connection compared to our 100mbit network. Please let me know who I _should have_ addressed these bug reports to. Nicholas Dietz Conexant Systems Inc. 3333 Warrenville Rd., Suite 250 Lisle, IL 60532 (630) 799-9300 General (630) 799-9305 Direct To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 10 18:44:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rucus.ru.ac.za (rucus.ru.ac.za [146.231.29.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0302037B479 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 18:43:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 62693 invoked by uid 1003); 11 Nov 2000 02:43:55 -0000 Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 04:43:55 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: FreeBSD Documentation Project Subject: Patchset for www to remove links, and make build obj-clean. Message-ID: <20001111044355.A57981@mithrandr.moria.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386 X-URL: http://mithrandr.moria.org/nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi, This patch-set removes the use of symlinks in the web build by using relative directories for languages instead of symlinks to relative directories and updating the Spanish build to use the WEB_PREFIX and web.site.mk. Also lost in there are one or two changes necessary to build the Spanish build in a separate object tree, which the others seem to support, or don't have the functionality that would need the changes. This survives a full web site build, in both obj and non-obj cases (that really takes a long time on a p166), and is quite simple. A quick confirmation means I'll commit it soon, or I'll wait until Monday. This changes one behaviour of www/ - now, "make" by itself with no target, or with target "all" goes to en/ and builds. Previously it ran the "links" target. Since the links target is going away, it makes sense that "make" in /usr/www will build the entire web site. In future, I'll probably remove the jumping to language directories in en/Makefile, and add language directories in www/Makefile, to match expected behaviour, and the doc build. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@mithrandr.moria.org --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="doc.nolinks.objclean.patch" Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.15 diff -u -r1.15 Makefile --- Makefile 2000/11/08 01:15:39 1.15 +++ Makefile 2000/11/11 02:17:04 @@ -2,13 +2,13 @@ WEB_PREFIX= ${.CURDIR} -LINKS= en/ja en/es en/ru en/zh -LINKS+= ja/web.mk es/web.mk ru/web.mk -LINKS+= web.mk +#LINKS= en/ja en/es en/ru en/zh +#LINKS+= ja/web.mk es/web.mk ru/web.mk +#LINKS+= web.mk .if !defined(WEB_ONLY) || empty(WEB_ONLY) -LINKS+= ../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/web.mk -LINKS+= ../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/includes.sgml +#LINKS+= ../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/web.mk +#LINKS+= ../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/includes.sgml .endif SUBDIR= en @@ -17,7 +17,7 @@ SUBDIR+= ja es ru zh .endif -all: links +#all:# links links: ${LINKS} Index: en/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.55 diff -u -r1.55 Makefile --- en/Makefile 2000/11/07 07:37:55 1.55 +++ en/Makefile 2000/11/11 01:31:38 @@ -60,8 +60,8 @@ .if !defined(ENGLISH_ONLY) || empty(ENGLISH_ONLY) .for DIR in ${WEB_LANG} -#SUBDIR+= ../${DIR} -SUBDIR+= ${DIR} +SUBDIR+= ../${DIR} +#SUBDIR+= ${DIR} .endfor .endif Index: es/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.8 diff -u -r1.8 Makefile --- es/Makefile 2000/02/28 12:43:08 1.8 +++ es/Makefile 2000/11/11 01:35:26 @@ -3,6 +3,9 @@ .if exists(Makefile.conf) .include "Makefile.conf" .endif +.if exists(../Makefile.inc) +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.endif # These are turned into validated, normalized HTML files. @@ -68,5 +71,5 @@ WEBDIR= data/es -.include "web.mk" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/Makefile.inc =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/Makefile.inc,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 Makefile.inc --- es/Makefile.inc 1999/09/06 07:02:59 1.2 +++ es/Makefile.inc 2000/11/11 01:36:47 @@ -1,3 +1,4 @@ # $FreeBSD: www/es/Makefile.inc,v 1.2 1999/09/06 07:02:59 peter Exp $ WEBBASE?= /data/es +WEB_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../.. Index: es/alpha/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/alpha/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 Makefile --- es/alpha/Makefile 1999/09/06 07:03:01 1.2 +++ es/alpha/Makefile 2000/11/11 01:56:54 @@ -3,9 +3,12 @@ .if exists(../Makefile.conf) .include "../Makefile.conf" .endif +.if exists(../Makefile.inc) +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.endif DOCS= alpha.sgml INDEXLINK=alpha.html -.include "../web.mk" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/copyright/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/copyright/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 Makefile --- es/copyright/Makefile 1999/09/06 07:03:01 1.2 +++ es/copyright/Makefile 2000/11/11 01:57:36 @@ -3,6 +3,9 @@ .if exists(../Makefile.conf) .include "../Makefile.conf" .endif +.if exists(../Makefile.inc) +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.endif DOCS= license.sgml DOCS+= freebsd-license.sgml @@ -19,4 +22,4 @@ #${LEGAL}: $${CVSROOT}/ports/LEGAL,v # co -q -p ${.ALLSRC} > ${.TARGET} -.include "../web.mk" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/docproj/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/docproj/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 Makefile --- es/docproj/Makefile 1999/09/06 07:03:01 1.2 +++ es/docproj/Makefile 2000/11/11 01:41:06 @@ -3,6 +3,9 @@ .if exists(../Makefile.conf) .include "../Makefile.conf" .endif +.if exists(../Makefile.inc) +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.endif DOCS= current.sgml DOCS+= doc-set.sgml @@ -14,4 +17,4 @@ INDEXLINK= docproj.html -.include "../web.mk" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/internal/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/internal/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.7 diff -u -r1.7 Makefile --- es/internal/Makefile 1999/09/06 07:03:02 1.7 +++ es/internal/Makefile 2000/11/11 01:57:16 @@ -3,6 +3,9 @@ .if exists(../Makefile.conf) .include "../Makefile.conf" .endif +.if exists(../Makefile.inc) +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.endif DOCS= photos.sgml DOCS+= internal.sgml @@ -16,4 +19,4 @@ DATA+= README.mirror -.include "../web.mk" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/news/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/news/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.5 diff -u -r1.5 Makefile --- es/news/Makefile 1999/09/06 07:03:03 1.5 +++ es/news/Makefile 2000/11/11 01:56:31 @@ -3,9 +3,8 @@ .if exists(../Makefile.conf) .include "../Makefile.conf" .endif - -.if exists("../Makefile.conf") -.include "../Makefile.conf" +.if exists(../Makefile.inc) +.include "../Makefile.inc" .endif # quick news letter @@ -33,4 +32,4 @@ INDEXLINK= news.html -.include "../web.mk" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/ports/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/ports/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.7 diff -u -r1.7 Makefile --- es/ports/Makefile 1999/11/15 20:37:56 1.7 +++ es/ports/Makefile 2000/11/11 03:09:03 @@ -3,6 +3,9 @@ .if exists(../Makefile.conf) .include "../Makefile.conf" .endif +.if exists(../Makefile.inc) +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.endif .if exists(Makefile.inc) .include "Makefile.inc" .endif @@ -47,11 +50,11 @@ index.sgml: ${INDEX} ${Y2K} packages.exists portindex ports.inc .NOTMAIN rm -f *.sgml - ${PORTINDEX} ${INDEX} ${Y2K} + ${PORTINDEX} ${INDEX} ${Y2K} ${.CURDIR} install: all all install clean: - ${MAKE} ${MAKEFLAGS} -f Makefile.inc0 ${.TARGET} + (cd ${.CURDIR} &&${MAKE} ${MAKEFLAGS} -f ${.CURDIR}/Makefile.inc0 ${.TARGET}) -.include "../web.mk" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/ports/Makefile.inc0 =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/ports/Makefile.inc0,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 Makefile.inc0 --- es/ports/Makefile.inc0 1999/11/15 20:37:56 1.1 +++ es/ports/Makefile.inc0 2000/11/11 03:08:28 @@ -3,6 +3,9 @@ .if exists(../Makefile.conf) .include "../Makefile.conf" .endif +.if exists(../Makefile.inc) +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.endif .if exists(Makefile.inc) .include "Makefile.inc" @@ -13,4 +16,4 @@ .endif -.include "../web.mk" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/ports/portindex =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/ports/portindex,v retrieving revision 1.4 diff -u -r1.4 portindex --- es/ports/portindex 1999/07/01 21:01:03 1.4 +++ es/ports/portindex 2000/11/11 03:06:43 @@ -40,7 +40,7 @@ $today = &getdate; &packages_exist('packages.exists', *packages); -&category_description('categories', *category_description); +&category_description(($ARGV[2] || '.') . '/categories', *category_description); &y2k_statements; &main; Index: es/projects/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/projects/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 Makefile --- es/projects/Makefile 1999/09/06 07:03:05 1.2 +++ es/projects/Makefile 2000/11/11 01:55:42 @@ -3,6 +3,9 @@ .if exists(../Makefile.conf) .include "../Makefile.conf" .endif +.if exists(../Makefile.inc) +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.endif DOCS= projects.sgml DOCS+= mozilla.sgml @@ -10,4 +13,4 @@ INDEXLINK= projects.html -.include "../web.mk" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/releases/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/releases/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -r1.6 Makefile --- es/releases/Makefile 1999/12/30 13:44:01 1.6 +++ es/releases/Makefile 2000/11/11 02:04:26 @@ -3,6 +3,9 @@ .if exists(../Makefile.conf) .include "../Makefile.conf" .endif +.if exists(../Makefile.inc) +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.endif DOCS?= index.sgml snapshots.sgml @@ -14,4 +17,4 @@ SUBDIR= .endif -.include "../web.mk" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/releases/Makefile.inc =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/releases/Makefile.inc,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 Makefile.inc --- es/releases/Makefile.inc 1999/09/06 07:03:05 1.2 +++ es/releases/Makefile.inc 2000/11/11 01:57:58 @@ -1,4 +1,4 @@ # $FreeBSD: www/es/releases/Makefile.inc,v 1.2 1999/09/06 07:03:05 peter Exp $ WEBBASE?= /data/es/releases - +WEB_PREFIX?= ${.CURDIR}/../../.. Index: es/releases/1.1/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/releases/1.1/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 diff -u -r1.1.1.1 Makefile --- es/releases/1.1/Makefile 1999/02/08 19:26:12 1.1.1.1 +++ es/releases/1.1/Makefile 2000/11/11 01:59:13 @@ -1,4 +1,5 @@ DATA= CONTRIB.386BSD CONTRIB.FreeBSD COPYRIGHT.386BSD COPYRIGHT.FreeBSD DATA+= MIRROR.SITES PERSONAL.ACKS RELNOTES.FreeBSD SUPPORT.TXT -.include "../../web.mk" +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/releases/1.1.5/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/releases/1.1.5/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 diff -u -r1.1.1.1 Makefile --- es/releases/1.1.5/Makefile 1999/02/08 19:26:12 1.1.1.1 +++ es/releases/1.1.5/Makefile 2000/11/11 02:03:27 @@ -3,4 +3,5 @@ DATA+= PERSONAL.ACKS REGISTER.FreeBSD RELNOTES.FreeBSD ROSTER.FreeBSD DATA+= SUPPORT.TXT TODO-1.1.5 -.include "../../web.mk" +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/releases/2.0/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/releases/2.0/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 diff -u -r1.1.1.1 Makefile --- es/releases/2.0/Makefile 1999/02/08 19:26:12 1.1.1.1 +++ es/releases/2.0/Makefile 2000/11/11 02:04:39 @@ -1,4 +1,5 @@ DOCS= announce.sgml credits.sgml install.sgml notes.sgml -.include "../../web.mk" +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/releases/2.0.5R/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/releases/2.0.5R/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 diff -u -r1.1.1.1 Makefile --- es/releases/2.0.5R/Makefile 1999/02/08 19:26:11 1.1.1.1 +++ es/releases/2.0.5R/Makefile 2000/11/11 02:04:39 @@ -1,3 +1,4 @@ DOCS= announce.sgml notes.sgml -.include "../../web.mk" +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/releases/2.1.5R/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/releases/2.1.5R/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 diff -u -r1.1.1.1 Makefile --- es/releases/2.1.5R/Makefile 1999/02/08 19:26:12 1.1.1.1 +++ es/releases/2.1.5R/Makefile 2000/11/11 02:04:39 @@ -1,3 +1,4 @@ DOCS= announce.sgml notes.sgml -.include "../../web.mk" +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/releases/2.1.6R/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/releases/2.1.6R/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 diff -u -r1.1.1.1 Makefile --- es/releases/2.1.6R/Makefile 1999/02/08 19:26:12 1.1.1.1 +++ es/releases/2.1.6R/Makefile 2000/11/11 02:04:39 @@ -1,3 +1,4 @@ DOCS= announce.sgml notes.sgml security.sgml -.include "../../web.mk" +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/releases/2.1.7R/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/releases/2.1.7R/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 diff -u -r1.1.1.1 Makefile --- es/releases/2.1.7R/Makefile 1999/02/08 19:26:12 1.1.1.1 +++ es/releases/2.1.7R/Makefile 2000/11/11 02:04:39 @@ -1,3 +1,4 @@ DOCS= announce.sgml notes.sgml -.include "../../web.mk" +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/releases/2.1R/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/releases/2.1R/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 diff -u -r1.1.1.1 Makefile --- es/releases/2.1R/Makefile 1999/02/08 19:26:12 1.1.1.1 +++ es/releases/2.1R/Makefile 2000/11/11 02:04:39 @@ -1,3 +1,4 @@ DOCS= announce.sgml notes.sgml -.include "../../web.mk" +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/releases/2.2.1R/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/releases/2.2.1R/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 diff -u -r1.1.1.1 Makefile --- es/releases/2.2.1R/Makefile 1999/02/08 19:26:12 1.1.1.1 +++ es/releases/2.2.1R/Makefile 2000/11/11 02:04:40 @@ -1,3 +1,4 @@ DOCS= notes.sgml -.include "../../web.mk" +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/releases/2.2.2R/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/releases/2.2.2R/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 diff -u -r1.1.1.1 Makefile --- es/releases/2.2.2R/Makefile 1999/02/08 19:26:12 1.1.1.1 +++ es/releases/2.2.2R/Makefile 2000/11/11 02:04:40 @@ -1,3 +1,4 @@ DOCS= notes.sgml errata.sgml -.include "../../web.mk" +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/releases/2.2.5R/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/releases/2.2.5R/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 diff -u -r1.1.1.1 Makefile --- es/releases/2.2.5R/Makefile 1999/02/08 19:26:12 1.1.1.1 +++ es/releases/2.2.5R/Makefile 2000/11/11 02:04:40 @@ -1,3 +1,4 @@ DOCS= announce.sgml notes.sgml errata.sgml -.include "../../web.mk" +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/releases/2.2.6R/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/releases/2.2.6R/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 diff -u -r1.1.1.1 Makefile --- es/releases/2.2.6R/Makefile 1999/02/08 19:26:12 1.1.1.1 +++ es/releases/2.2.6R/Makefile 2000/11/11 02:04:40 @@ -1,3 +1,4 @@ DOCS= announce.sgml notes.sgml errata.sgml -.include "../../web.mk" +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/releases/2.2.7R/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/releases/2.2.7R/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 diff -u -r1.1.1.1 Makefile --- es/releases/2.2.7R/Makefile 1999/02/08 19:26:11 1.1.1.1 +++ es/releases/2.2.7R/Makefile 2000/11/11 02:04:41 @@ -1,3 +1,4 @@ DOCS= announce.sgml notes.sgml errata.sgml -.include "../../web.mk" +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/releases/2.2.8R/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/releases/2.2.8R/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 diff -u -r1.1.1.1 Makefile --- es/releases/2.2.8R/Makefile 1999/02/08 19:26:11 1.1.1.1 +++ es/releases/2.2.8R/Makefile 2000/11/11 02:04:41 @@ -1,3 +1,4 @@ DOCS= announce.sgml notes.sgml errata.sgml -.include "../../web.mk" +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/releases/2.2R/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/releases/2.2R/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 diff -u -r1.1.1.1 Makefile --- es/releases/2.2R/Makefile 1999/02/08 19:26:11 1.1.1.1 +++ es/releases/2.2R/Makefile 2000/11/11 02:04:41 @@ -1,3 +1,4 @@ DOCS= announce.sgml install-media.sgml notes.sgml -.include "../../web.mk" +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/releases/3.0R/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/releases/3.0R/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1.1.1 diff -u -r1.1.1.1 Makefile --- es/releases/3.0R/Makefile 1999/02/08 19:26:12 1.1.1.1 +++ es/releases/3.0R/Makefile 2000/11/11 02:03:58 @@ -1,3 +1,4 @@ DOCS= announce.sgml notes.sgml errata.sgml -.include "../../web.mk" +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/releases/3.1R/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/releases/3.1R/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 Makefile --- es/releases/3.1R/Makefile 1999/02/16 14:29:30 1.1 +++ es/releases/3.1R/Makefile 2000/11/11 02:03:58 @@ -1,3 +1,4 @@ DOCS= announce.sgml notes.sgml errata.sgml -.include "../../web.mk" +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/releases/3.2R/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/releases/3.2R/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 Makefile --- es/releases/3.2R/Makefile 1999/05/19 13:40:24 1.1 +++ es/releases/3.2R/Makefile 2000/11/11 02:03:58 @@ -1,3 +1,4 @@ DOCS= announce.sgml notes.sgml errata.sgml -.include "../../web.mk" +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/releases/3.3R/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/releases/3.3R/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 Makefile --- es/releases/3.3R/Makefile 1999/09/27 21:22:52 1.1 +++ es/releases/3.3R/Makefile 2000/11/11 02:03:58 @@ -1,3 +1,4 @@ DOCS= announce.sgml notes.sgml errata.sgml -.include "../../web.mk" +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/releases/3.4R/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/releases/3.4R/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.1 diff -u -r1.1 Makefile --- es/releases/3.4R/Makefile 1999/12/30 13:49:12 1.1 +++ es/releases/3.4R/Makefile 2000/11/11 02:03:58 @@ -1,3 +1,4 @@ DOCS= announce.sgml notes.sgml errata.sgml -.include "../../web.mk" +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/search/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/search/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 Makefile --- es/search/Makefile 1999/09/06 07:03:13 1.2 +++ es/search/Makefile 2000/11/11 03:03:47 @@ -3,6 +3,9 @@ .if exists(../Makefile.conf) .include "../Makefile.conf" .endif +.if exists(../Makefile.inc) +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.endif DOCS+= index-site.sgml DOCS+= search.sgml @@ -13,12 +16,12 @@ CLEANFILES+=atoz.sgml site.sgml -index-site.sgml: atoz.sgml site.sgml +index-site.html: atoz.sgml site.sgml atoz.sgml: web.atoz - sort -fu web.atoz | perl atoz.pl > ${.TARGET} + sort -fu ${.CURDIR}/web.atoz | perl ${.CURDIR}/atoz.pl > ${.TARGET} site.sgml: site.map - ./site.pl < ${.ALLSRC} > ${.TARGET} + ${.CURDIR}/site.pl < ${.ALLSRC} > ${.TARGET} -.include "../web.mk" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" Index: es/security/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/security/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 Makefile --- es/security/Makefile 1999/09/06 07:03:14 1.2 +++ es/security/Makefile 2000/11/11 01:37:05 @@ -3,6 +3,9 @@ .if exists(../Makefile.conf) .include "../Makefile.conf" .endif +.if exists(../Makefile.inc) +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.endif DOCS= DOCS+= programmers.sgml @@ -11,4 +14,4 @@ INDEXLINK= security.html -.include "../web.mk" +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" --IJpNTDwzlM2Ie8A6-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Nov 10 20:31:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp [210.226.20.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E193537B479 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 20:31:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eAB4VWY93790 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:31:32 +0900 (JST) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 13:31:32 +0900 Message-ID: <7mofzndt97.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp> From: Jun Kuriyama To: FreeBSD Documentation Project Subject: Re: Patchset for www to remove links, and make build obj-clean. In-Reply-To: <20001111044355.A57981@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <20001111044355.A57981@mithrandr.moria.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.3.92 (Roam) SEMI/1.13.7 (Awazu) FLIM/1.13.2 (Kasanui) MULE XEmacs/21.1 (patch 12) (Channel Islands) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.7 - "Awazu") Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Multipart_Sat_Nov_11_13:31:32_2000-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --Multipart_Sat_Nov_11_13:31:32_2000-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII At 11 Nov 2000 02:44:23 GMT, Neil Blakey-Milner wrote: > This patch-set removes the use of symlinks in the web build by using > relative directories for languages instead of symlinks to relative > directories and updating the Spanish build to use the WEB_PREFIX and > web.site.mk. > > Also lost in there are one or two changes necessary to build the Spanish > build in a separate object tree, which the others seem to support, or > don't have the functionality that would need the changes. > > This survives a full web site build, in both obj and non-obj cases (that > really takes a long time on a p166), and is quite simple. A quick > confirmation means I'll commit it soon, or I'll wait until Monday. > > This changes one behaviour of www/ - now, "make" by itself with no > target, or with target "all" goes to en/ and builds. Previously it > ran the "links" target. Since the links target is going away, it makes > sense that "make" in /usr/www will build the entire web site. In > future, I'll probably remove the jumping to language directories in > en/Makefile, and add language directories in www/Makefile, to match > expected behaviour, and the doc build. Thanks. It seems good and please go for it. I prefer to remove lines instead of commenting out. CVS provides capability to revert changes so I think commenting out is not necessary. And es/search/Makefile should be changed to reduce difference against English version. Suggested patches below (including your modification). -- Jun Kuriyama // IMG SRC, Inc. // FreeBSD Project --Multipart_Sat_Nov_11_13:31:32_2000-1 Content-Type: application/octet-stream; type=patch Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="www.diff" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Index: Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.15 diff -u -r1.15 Makefile --- Makefile 2000/11/08 01:15:39 1.15 +++ Makefile 2000/11/11 04:30:10 @@ -2,61 +2,13 @@ WEB_PREFIX= ${.CURDIR} -LINKS= en/ja en/es en/ru en/zh -LINKS+= ja/web.mk es/web.mk ru/web.mk -LINKS+= web.mk - -.if !defined(WEB_ONLY) || empty(WEB_ONLY) -LINKS+= ../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/web.mk -LINKS+= ../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/includes.sgml -.endif - SUBDIR= en .if make(obj) SUBDIR+= ja es ru zh .endif - -all: links - - -links: ${LINKS} - -clean: - rm -f ${LINKS} - - -en/ja: - cd en; ln -sf ${.CURDIR}/ja -en/es: - cd en; ln -sf ${.CURDIR}/es - -en/ru: - cd en; ln -sf ${.CURDIR}/ru - -en/zh: - cd en; ln -sf ${.CURDIR}/zh - -ja/web.mk: - cd ja; ln -sf ${.CURDIR}/en/web.mk - -es/web.mk: - cd es; ln -sf ${.CURDIR}/en/web.mk - -ru/web.mk: - cd ru; ln -sf ${.CURDIR}/en/web.mk - -web.mk: - cd .; ln -sf ${.CURDIR}/en/web.mk - -.if !defined(WEB_ONLY) || empty(WEB_ONLY) -../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/web.mk: - cd ../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1; ln -sf ${.CURDIR}/en/web.mk - -../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/includes.sgml: - cd ../doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1; ln -sf ${.CURDIR}/en/includes.sgml -.endif +links: .include .include Index: en/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/en/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.55 diff -u -r1.55 Makefile --- en/Makefile 2000/11/07 07:37:55 1.55 +++ en/Makefile 2000/11/11 04:01:30 @@ -60,8 +60,7 @@ .if !defined(ENGLISH_ONLY) || empty(ENGLISH_ONLY) .for DIR in ${WEB_LANG} -#SUBDIR+= ../${DIR} -SUBDIR+= ${DIR} +SUBDIR+= ../${DIR} .endfor .endif Index: es/search/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/www/es/search/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.2 diff -u -r1.2 Makefile --- es/search/Makefile 1999/09/06 07:03:13 1.2 +++ es/search/Makefile 2000/11/11 04:03:05 @@ -3,6 +3,9 @@ .if exists(../Makefile.conf) .include "../Makefile.conf" .endif +.if exists(../Makefile.inc) +.include "../Makefile.inc" +.endif DOCS+= index-site.sgml DOCS+= search.sgml @@ -13,12 +16,11 @@ CLEANFILES+=atoz.sgml site.sgml -index-site.sgml: atoz.sgml site.sgml +index-site.html: atoz.sgml site.sgml atoz.sgml: web.atoz - sort -fu web.atoz | perl atoz.pl > ${.TARGET} + sort -fu ${.ALLSRC} | ${PERL} ${.CURDIR}/atoz.pl > ${.TARGET} site.sgml: site.map - ./site.pl < ${.ALLSRC} > ${.TARGET} + ${PERL} ${.CURDIR}/site.pl < ${.ALLSRC} > ${.TARGET} -.include "../web.mk" - +.include "${WEB_PREFIX}/share/mk/web.site.mk" --Multipart_Sat_Nov_11_13:31:32_2000-1-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 11 1:59:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.cumt.edu.cn (unknown [202.119.200.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E365A37B479 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 01:59:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from nc ([202.119.200.246]) by dragon.cumt.edu.cn (8.9.2/8.9.2) with SMTP id SAA13775 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 18:01:38 +0800 (CST) Message-ID: <001801c04bc5$e4b0b3c0$f6c877ca@nc.cumt.edu.cn> From: "HXL" To: Subject: Please give some advices while installing FreeBSD 4.1 on IBM Netfinity 7100 Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 17:58:06 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01C04C08.F1FB4700" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01C04C08.F1FB4700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="gb2312" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have installed FreeBSD 4.1.1 on IBM Netfinity 7100 and 5100,but I can = not use it's pluging NIC,please give me some advices. 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Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 11 4:10:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C3737B4C5 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 04:10:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id EAA27996; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 04:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 3DE5637B479; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 04:01:05 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <20001111120105.3DE5637B479@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 04:01:05 -0800 (PST) From: opentrax@email.com To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/22767: wrong variable name in handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 22767 >Category: docs >Synopsis: wrong variable name in handbook >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Nov 11 04:10:01 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Jesse Monroy >Release: n/a >Organization: Digital Marshalls >Environment: n/a >Description: http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/slip.html In Section 15.5.2.3 Kernel Configuration, the fourth paragraph, near the end it says "gatway variable to YES". It should be "gateway_enable variable to YES". >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: fix stated. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 11 8:13:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pop3.telkom.net (unknown [203.130.252.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9C7B037B479 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 08:13:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17667 invoked from network); 11 Nov 2000 16:07:39 -0000 Received: from pop3.telkom.net (HELO Debug) (203.130.252.40) by pop3.telkom.net with SMTP; 11 Nov 2000 16:07:39 -0000 To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org From: amien@telkom.net Subject: handbooks FreeBsd Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 16:07:39 GMT X-Mailer: Endymion MailMan Standard Edition v3.0.19 Message-Id: <20001111161306.9C7B037B479@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe amien@telkom.net --------------------------------------------- This message was sent using Instan Webmail. http://mail.telkom.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 11 11:17:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74EA837B4CF; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:17:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ben@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA08227; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:17:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ben@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:17:29 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200011111917.LAA08227@freefall.freebsd.org> To: mistral@imasy.or.jp, ben@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/22658: Some mistakes and fixes in periodic.conf.5 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Some mistakes and fixes in periodic.conf.5 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ben State-Changed-When: Sat Nov 11 19:16:59 GMT 2000 State-Changed-Why: Committed, thanks! http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22658 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 11 11:24:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AAE437B479; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:24:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from ben@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id LAA08951; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:24:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ben@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 11:24:58 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200011111924.LAA08951@freefall.freebsd.org> To: opentrax@email.com, ben@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/22767: wrong variable name in handbook Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: wrong variable name in handbook State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: ben State-Changed-When: Sat Nov 11 19:24:31 GMT 2000 State-Changed-Why: committed, thanks. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22767 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 11 12: 0: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B29CA37B479 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:00:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id MAA12029; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:00:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:00:04 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011112000.MAA12029@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Ben Smithurst Subject: Re: docs/22042: spelling error Reply-To: Ben Smithurst Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/22042; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ben Smithurst To: opentrax@email.com Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/22042: spelling error Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 19:52:59 +0000 opentrax@email.com wrote: > Mis-spelling in XF86Config(4/5) man page. > Bottom of page 6, next to last paragraph > says "wsouse"; should say "wsmouse". This isn't a FreeBSD manual page, so I don't think there's much we can do about it. You'd probably be better off reporting the problem to the XFree86 Project. I'll close this PR soon unless anyone objects. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org / PGP: 0x99392F7D To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 11 12: 0:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E13F37B4C5 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:00:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id MAA12039; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:00:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:00:06 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011112000.MAA12039@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Ben Smithurst Subject: Re: docs/22043: fstab cache annoyance Reply-To: Ben Smithurst Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/22043; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ben Smithurst To: opentrax@email.com Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/22043: fstab cache annoyance Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 19:54:31 +0000 opentrax@email.com wrote: > For utilities that rely on fstab (mount, fsck, ...), > the lookup in fstab(5) fails until the table is > re-read; usually a re-read via reboot. Utilities that read fstab read it themselves, there is no cache in the way you imply. I'm not sure what the problem is. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org / PGP: 0x99392F7D To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 11 12:40: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44AE437B479 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id MAA17037; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:40:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011112040.MAA17037@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Ben Smithurst Subject: Re: docs/22694: submission of new FAQ text on fixing broken startup files Reply-To: Ben Smithurst Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/22694; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ben Smithurst To: lowell@world.std.com Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/22694: submission of new FAQ text on fixing broken startup files Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 20:31:17 +0000 lowell@world.std.com wrote: > + > + I made a mistake in my startup files, and now the box > + won't boot: how do I fix my mistake? > + > + > + See the > + previous question, > + except edit the startup file in question instead of doing > + passwd root. > + > + Isn't the "I made a mistake in rc.conf, and now I can't edit it because the filesystem is read-only. What should I do?" question good enough? -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org / PGP: 0x99392F7D To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 11 12:40: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F5FC37B4C5 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:40:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id MAA17044; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:40:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:40:03 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200011112040.MAA17044@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Ben Smithurst Subject: Re: docs/22714: mkisofs man page Reply-To: Ben Smithurst Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/22714; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Ben Smithurst To: jtm63@enteract.com Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/22714: mkisofs man page Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 20:32:32 +0000 jtm63@enteract.com wrote: > In the man page for mkisofs in the section for -print-size > no indication is given of the units for the number returned. This > can be confusing. It sure confused me. Tell the author of mkisofs, not us. mkisofs is not a standard part of FreeBSD. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org / PGP: 0x99392F7D To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Nov 11 20:50: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B65E37B4C5 for ; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 20:50:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.9.2) id UAA69019; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 20:50:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 32767) id 6025F37B4C5; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 20:44:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <20001112044424.6025F37B4C5@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 20:44:24 -0800 (PST) From: ddavid@ican.net To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/22778: Typo's in About.txt-Layout.txt Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 22778 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Typo's in About.txt-Layout.txt >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sat Nov 11 20:50:00 PST 2000 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: David >Release: RELENG4 Snapshot Nov10 >Organization: >Environment: >Description: Size Mismatch for ports directory listing in ABOUT.TXT and LAYOUT.TXT ABOUT.TXT shows ports being 50meg's LAYOUT.TXT shows ports being 100meg's >How-To-Repeat: Read ABOUT.TXT and LAYOUT.TXT :) >Fix: Change LAYOUT.TXT to read approx. 50meg's. I beleive that is the new un-packed size now. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message