From owner-freebsd-hackers Sun Dec 10 0:23: 2 2000 From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Dec 10 00:22:57 2000 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from peach.ocn.ne.jp (peach.ocn.ne.jp [210.145.254.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5FA537B400; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 00:22:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from newsguy.com (p23-dn01kiryunisiki.gunma.ocn.ne.jp [211.0.245.24]) by peach.ocn.ne.jp (8.9.1a/OCN/) with ESMTP id RAA21674; Sun, 10 Dec 2000 17:22:54 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3A333CE4.5B9FDA92@newsguy.com> Date: Sun, 10 Dec 2000 17:20:52 +0900 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: "Chad R. Larson" , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCIOCGETCONF/PCIOCREAD requires write permission? References: <200012080707.AAA12102@freeway.dcfinc.com> <20001208115004.B81619@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG David O'Brien wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 08, 2000 at 12:07:49AM -0700, Chad R. Larson wrote: > > I thought the space staked out by the *BSD gang was approximately > > this: > > NetBSD - the least amount of platform-specific code possible; run > > on most anything > > OpenBSD - pro-active security, bullet-proof from attacks > > FreeBSD - best performing on the Intel PC platform > > s/the Intel PC/server/ The Alpha has very good I/O bandwidth and 64-bit > address space. Thus it fits our niche. You also mentioned Sparc, but > really should have said sparc64(pci based). > > hopefully embeded soon too. Yep, "server" is much more to the point. And not simply best performing, but we also strive to be user-friendly. The bottomline is that we, of the BSDs, do *not* have a focus. We want to support good servers and good desktops and good notebooks, we want to provide performance and user friendlyness. We do not care about being ported to every hardware platform under sun, and we do not go out of our way to provide security. Thus, NetBSD and OpenBSD have the edge on us on these respects, but we gain by providing a better overall enviroment on the platforms we support. The problem is that you can't one-line that. :-) -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@the.great.underground.bsdconpiracy.org "The bronze landed last, which canceled that method of impartial choice." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message