From owner-freebsd-i18n Sun Oct 29 8:16: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.ovis.net (ns1.ovis.net [207.0.147.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60EFC37B479; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 08:16:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from 207.0.147.103 (s37.pm5.ovis.net [207.0.147.103]) by ns1.ovis.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA32494; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 11:15:18 -0500 Message-Id: <200010291615.LAA32494@ns1.ovis.net> Reply-To: Steve Kudlak From: chromexa@ovis.net To: Olexander Kunytsa , Nik Clayton Cc: "Michael C . Wu" , i18n@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: re: Re: Need dotfiles for various L10N groups Date: 29 Oct 2000 11:22:58 -0500 X-Mailer: NeoPlanet Version: 5.1.0.1418 X-ID: AF93F1E08CC911D3BC29444553540000 Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > ** Original Subject: Re: Need dotfiles for various L10N groups > ** Original Sender: Olexander Kunytsa > ** Original Date: Sat, 28 Oct 2000 19:29:01 -0400 > ** Original Message follows... > > On Sun, 29 Oct 2000, Nik Clayton wrote: > > > I am trying to collect various dotfiles (.cshrc, .profile, .Xresources, > > > .Xdefaults, ~/.*) for various language localization groups. > > > As I discussed with Nik Clayton, I hope to create > > > /usr/share/skel/{chinese, japanese, french, russian, korean, vietnamese *} > > > > Shouldn't these be /usr/share/skel/{ja_JP.eucJP, zh_TW.Big5, ...} to cater > > for the same language/multiple encodings problem? > > > It would be better to use in such way, I think. I myself can make > /usr/share/skel/uk_UA.KOI8-U/* for Ukrainian lang > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message >** --------- End Original Message ----------- ** > My suspicion is that all those configuration files, Use dot as the leading character and that POSIXdidn't change this? Thisis from old memory so someone doublechecking would help. As far as your proposal goes. it doesn.sound that bad as long as it is consistant and someone supports it (well lots of people). I automatically knowthat when I see .xxx in *nix it is a config file. The problem never seems to be with standards but getting people to agree with them, and they provide a wide consistency. Please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks and Have fun, Seteve Have Fun, Sends Steve Download the Lycos Browser at http://lycos.neoplanet.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Sun Oct 29 19:42: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from peorth.iteration.net (peorth.iteration.net [208.190.180.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9591F37B479; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 19:42:03 -0800 (PST) Received: by peorth.iteration.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5070B5730B; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 21:42:07 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 21:42:07 -0600 From: "Michael C . Wu" To: i18n@freebsd.org, freebsd-taiwan-chinese@freebsd.sinica.edu.tw, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Please review Message-ID: <20001029214207.A94911@peorth.iteration.net> Reply-To: "Michael C . Wu" Mail-Followup-To: "Michael C . Wu" , i18n@freebsd.org, freebsd-taiwan-chinese@freebsd.sinica.edu.tw, doc@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello everyone, Here is a preliminary skeleton for /usr/share/skel/ Please comment and review. :) Would the Japanese, Korean, Simplified Chinese, and other locale's developers please send me the L10N dotfiles to be edited? You can just send me your dirty daily usage dotfiles. Thanks, Michael -- +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | keichii@peorth.iteration.net | keichii@bsdconspiracy.net | | http://peorth.iteration.net/~keichii | Yes, BSD is a conspiracy. | +------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-i18n Sun Oct 29 19:48:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-i18n@freebsd.org Received: from peorth.iteration.net (peorth.iteration.net [208.190.180.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE09137B479; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 19:48:13 -0800 (PST) Received: by peorth.iteration.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C1A595730B; Sun, 29 Oct 2000 21:48:14 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 21:48:14 -0600 From: "Michael C . Wu" To: i18n@freebsd.org, freebsd-taiwan-chinese@freebsd.sinica.edu.tw, doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Please review Message-ID: <20001029214814.A94982@peorth.iteration.net> Reply-To: "Michael C . Wu" Mail-Followup-To: "Michael C . Wu" , i18n@freebsd.org, freebsd-taiwan-chinese@freebsd.sinica.edu.tw, doc@freebsd.org References: <20001029214207.A94911@peorth.iteration.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20001029214207.A94911@peorth.iteration.net>; from keichii@iteration.net on Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 09:42:07PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Oct 29, 2000 at 09:42:07PM -0600, Michael C . 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multipart/mixed; boundary="ibTvN161/egqYuK8" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-i18n@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --ibTvN161/egqYuK8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hello, From /etc/profile: # Uncomment next three lines to activate Italian locale # LANG=it_IT.ISO_8859-1; export LANG # MM_CHARSET=ISO-8859-1; export MM_CHARSET # LC_ALL=it_IT.ISO_8859-1; export LC_ALL Problem: you can not display ISO-8859-1 characters in programs such 'vi', 'emacs', etc. using the current italian keymap and iso-* fonts. Are the following considerations correct? 1. "it.iso.kbd", in spite of its filename, does not use ISO-8859-1 codes but CP850, so it should be renamed "it.cp850.kbd" (See, e.g, german.iso.kbd and german.cp850.kbd). 2. (If 1. is true, then) there should be 2 codes incorrect: code 021 (scan code 043) for SECTION SIGN should be replaced with 245 code 164 (scan code 018) for CURRENCY SIGN should be replaced with 207 3) To use such keymap (or *.cp850.kbd) you should load cp850-* fonts and set LANG, etc, to a suitable "locale", which doesn't exists in /usr/share/locale currently. Thanks, ciao. P.S. The hints in /etc/profile are correct, if you set TERM=cons25l1, load iso*-* fonts and use the keymap in attachment, which is also fully compatible with X-Windows Italian keyboard. -- Nicola Vitale nivit@libero.it --ibTvN161/egqYuK8 Content-Type: application/x-gunzip Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="it_IT.ISO_8859-1.kbd.gz" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 H4sICI2E8TkCA2l0X0lULklTT184ODU5LTEua2JkAK1abWPbthH+XP8KzMlKq40t8UUU5SXZ 0ry0WRIni90t2bq5FAnJnClS4YtmZ1t/+w53Bwk0KVtq5g95SB3w3PFweACCuSfuvyik/O70 2fH9vXt798Q7WYj9SpZVWMh9kYZiHi4WYVUX4THaxTKJozyrijwVh1MRXNm+SMr8UF0cTbNK NbmcrJuk4qifVOcvz45enr49D4Lh+NBWbUpZyWwpXj85+V7cYn/z5vzpD0/enz4/Iy837WfP 378R4Kx0hqm9eoA6E3WZi/2FLOZhJrNK7lP0dk+cyFRMk1QKqy+rqF9V16Ul5nmcTJMInlkk qaiSRS4sYrVEkunr1LaUayGAV1R1VSUiERX4SLIwhavqevkNunFaboroCDimlghns6TOZhI8 gbFIZhfymEjp30t5DRl/tH8zJ/tknkJeg6sA7JjzoPGz7enfba9p8FcGXxnIdpJXobCP8WmW SVnDM3z+rFIQZtEFJqJM5pM8zUUs09R6Xhc5ddR/B2JRyLnM4lyEaSW+FVL0HsClWORlBb0S YSmvliijIlmqR1b39vDQOjIicI5hMMGVWNY5piTK54sk5bG4lEUGqYTkiU+1Kst1QYI79XjN mMBpLKdhnVYPoNMiCQuo4TKvIJ5+XRb98gKI++V1qYa0T9kuhWySGIOU6XEEYjWCyQw8f07y rDF+1D1fVGAoxf7p2bPgg+2/eHtyxuMwDy9lpxkHhhvdE/uYn30ckrpK9ICA67AIKyi1REBJ 8DQYHjXdPjl79d2z82cvXp+dv3r+8c2Td23XrSadhQb9XLOCf+kfpfksyc7bJRyqFISrDMzl 8U909dVXxxGkGqbpo/XE1Ubj7zgNs9mjm0EYKV3UKgFzVVIhTZplWCThBJIjYiucTxI1v1cd lKA86hIUYWjJI1NLwPgNqoY5B/rgbb7gGrTS8DqvK0vVgFmEIiokN1GJQi9WksXJLD9agKpA unRcUUzl98G23/v9NJmoq/7V5QStgKroxeFcUHeWgX45S0A9dZtFkWQVtzi6upwzt86RHq6k +vXeK+35agrLQuDfcF0Zbg9gXklwEodKH5SEgkrgrK/CskokTFAYtFLGdRX2jrjTaZ7lapKW izxLcAyTLE8rGthSQnazz3LFQX5AgD+I6CIJ5yEorhXLMD6HKEurt3o+WGxS0B/LsuDfh3qy yMfi8LFYzR2JKhJGERQMKFZUV3mz9/7dvWN4LlkmpTio52lYV70mwz+29x8lhZpOqSzLG2H8 vD3JrAiXstn7l7t7g7DEUi8Dp7LRWv4sYBDLhdK4B0qVQTphhmF5rVlCCDpKQk5gCKsDCG4y z3HYclwWILt60J/mZfKzgJUhFrKUIO7ArBQOqIGZZMSSsAqHSQ26DHfdA1UqbV+qCsJ1B4UR 6wSeQD3+Y/HQevwAFCkNy0gpfwJLxKdaTRjsr3s9LC+SaQWt5eMjSkNbAHDZl/Mwgpl0Q35f h5XdtUTQ/Aex5G6t9eEglZU4OFiGaS3FQVQXBTzgYZIt6upQTZ9er8f6eAC6aRjEQVZdiIHA nj26s/UdrrEpTI3s0CaTyyZFt3fv//AnWrK9/R/sDKB3GYXZhgZUuWb7NZAtzaNL4IhUJsQk hN0C1IIawlVnvuO+XTYQ7UqN0OEX/+0JMRgMwE2WL8SvAfEWKWy4kmUktoNYTurZ6o4pHFVw tqV+sH5jtT3ZwRDBtzdG4aq+DlHsE0WNoxGDwKm+o8DsSzYGpvBUX9ciT25HFKPxRhtTqDAt j6K43/kgwUYbU/jKPiSK33ZSjO8akZHq6xPF1whFKQywxwOjU9PGFCpMa0QU/Y4orH9bd0Wh wrQCojjoovjbXRS2CtMaE0Wvi+LvNFqj0UYKVTHWgCgedVH8lyn8jRRYnRZR/B4hBi3HBrVK 2tjnrGJ1xrCWacuKQlWM42I7tbauXcSwfKLaEm8OWyYAWNhaUajqnBApg9qtrOE2G1Oo6ryo qFkVTlrPe5uNKbA6P1Eu/kQxR7YB1h8228RTpMDq/Bc1+wuCrCYGNP02bUyB1SmJ4jlRZJ8M sH1vo40psDoLonjPwToG2P6I6sJr24jCweqsiOKMKTwDmg/StDEFVuc1UXykYOfCAD3n/WHb xhRYnTVR/EilFV6a0JxfDRtToHYmRPHSMiqBobNKGJgCtTMnircIsMkxwPFQ+BwsoBs2pkDt XBDFO0pnKg1whpg5x3HaNqbwcZqh3XHd9uLDkhPDS0DLRgXuYHV+S1F8gzCjGcXAkhPD1qhl Ywr1pFFBewKCLDXhNhtTqOpMI1z2dwaicLE6Q3qQJzQi+YUBDrYA1QraNkqni9VZEsUpF7hr gIOVo6dK08YUWJ0xUTyjAs8rAxwPo3BwwblhYwqszilRvEAIo0sDVqvzoG1jCqzOGVF8jzBh 0SRoFnjTxhRYnRdE8YPVFtwbFA0bU6B2/pMo/mi1x/42G1NgdV5Ss1cIS0oVg7Z93WFjCtTO lJq9RphOhQG32ZhijAPH06xjS8aLQBzjHOlaR3DUHVSN7qXXumcZ0EmB1fkTNfsPBdsYCnvk 3LG/wEdIaV+9MzAFruze2JgHHAUDbwfiSSFbNqbA6vxMD/JXmqn1xAB7hDn2B6JtoxHxsDqv iOIDAr+nMNgBhubT8tW0MQVWZ0QUT3lZvjLA9nldHLdtTIHVuSSKP9ODXGcGcPJ5v9S0MQVW 54QoviMKcsHAFFiCN21MgSt7RhQnLHzCgNtsRDFE7ZxTszdWW7PtwCbw2zamwOp8QBS/6yji 8ZDWRdyUdVbnELXziCiOO98ESIW9jbvfIWrnIVGcd1DEMUotQyeFh+8GWPI7A1MM14vpzsAU KtEpvRbvDEyB1SmIW5hviM0fGcq6XKzvmAJXdvUW/yuAKVR1Ti/lNbw2K4A3AwWw+VEA+l5G hXqjBrAJjDuiQB1ACocoPKLwiSLATg51IjDumMLWFOTeJvew+UGKMXZyqROBcccUjqYg9za5 h82PAtB31cmjTgTGHVO4moLc2+QeNj9IYWOnIXUiMO6YwtMU5N4m97C1QQoHO/nUicC4Y4qh piD3Nrl3aXxA31WnkegGpvA1Bbl3yL1L4wP6rloHohuYYqQpyL1D7l0aH9B31XosuoEpAqaw yb1D7l0aH9B39dgD0Q1MMcYdB9brzkAUuAsr6ZedgSl0dYKU6zOIrUGcIIWuTpByfQaxNTCF rk6Qcn0GsTUwha5OkHKtwlsDU+jqBCnXB0tbA1Po6gQp1wdLWwNT6OoEKdcHS1sDU+jqBCnX 71dbA1No7QQp16eFWwNRBFo7Qcr1aeHWwBS6OkHK+bRwe2AKXZ0g5fpsamtgCnd9uqP3CLfA JMcFnoEpvC8++8Vj2S+kwH3nQwr2cdcuh98S/I0HdIGuTptE0yHRdGlV8UbGYtoGplhpJ4mm Q6Lp0qriBcZi2gamGH/xaz8eyxb0Fr8zMIW9PrHdGZhCPVJWYpwMfGjPcPegjlV1FrT72hmY wlsvAjsDUwzXi8DOwBT+ehHYGZhitFbwnYEpgrX87gxMYWjnzoAU9sDQzp2BKQzt3BmYwtDO nYEp9Mru29sAiybfMYVn7HLCpSxad/T6wLOieccUujp9Z3dgCl2dvrs7MIWuTt/bHZgi+LJF YE8fkqj/MCAO8NBSHQ311PUTS9ggSHgtLTzcxevncA0F2RN7ovk/udQ5tvrSgq1eqlbMlFt4 ZoXXb+Ha7uxdW3iag61+VK1GorfHH3y+wo9AOsChEaBrBOgaAdobAxwZAQ6NAF0jQHtTgMOB EWBA19fqd+79UcXHvekDE3500pH7RuSeEblnRO5sjDwwIveNyD0jcmdj5LYR+ZhSix+78AOY DnBkBMjJyZQL7nyiXI+7XGAgQyMQl1zgYb09Gu7pg7jBYLCnjz34Gj8T2+olSocRGGH4Rp6G Rp7cjXkaG3kaGXnyjfC8jXly1nlyBsYID+mByjRcBY4fM/AQVQc+NgLn+o1krA6MPGwUWXhu i42eqkY8EuEiX6dGpYyv8askX0dhQdf/A+LagpdyKwAA --ibTvN161/egqYuK8-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-i18n" in the body of the message