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Date:      Fri, 7 Jan 2000 08:45:29 -0500 (EST)
From:      Robert Watson <robert@cyrus.watson.org>
To:        freebsd-ipfw@freebsd.org
Subject:   Two-way transparency
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.1000107084136.38336E-100000@fledge.watson.org>

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Last night at the fug-washdc meeting, we discussed expansions to ipfw that
might be useful--not doubt someone will post a summary soon.  One of the
issues I raised and am interested in is the ability to have userland
proxies filter traffic in a completely transparent way -- i.e., two way
transparency.  Right now with NAT and divert sockets, fwds, etc, it's easy
to do transparency from the perspective of a client application *making* a
connection, but I'm not sure how to go about allowing the proxy to go
about making an outgoing connection that appears to come from the client.

There are a number of applications where this would be useful, including
transparent local firewalls on multi-user machines, filtering incoming
connections, firewalls for protocols that bind address information into
their connections, etc.  It would allow a userland proxy-based firewall
(such as fwtk, etc) to look more like a traditional packet filter not
running with NAT.

Anyone have any thoughts on this? :-)

  Robert N M Watson 

robert@fledge.watson.org              http://www.watson.org/~robert/
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