From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Jul 2 3:24: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECD9237B927 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 03:23:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from moritz.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p103.dialin.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.103]) by f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA40788; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 12:22:07 +0200 Received: from moritz (moritz [10.0.0.4]) by moritz.alleswirdgelber (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA01342; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 00:20:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 00:20:19 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@moritz.alleswirdgelber To: Imre Oolberg Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FBSD and Linux... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Imre in ee, > For example, first thing after installing FreeBSD i changed shell into > bash, compied my ppp dial-out scripts and XF86Config from Linux box. And Does that mean, you are running pppd ? H. > also turned off syslogd's output onto root's console :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 3 1:34:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2946D37B52E for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 01:34:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from moritz.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p180.dialin.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.180]) by f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA51830 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 10:32:46 +0200 Received: from moritz (moritz [10.0.0.4]) by moritz.alleswirdgelber (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA00323 for ; Sun, 2 Jul 2000 18:11:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Sun, 2 Jul 2000 18:11:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@moritz.alleswirdgelber To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: blender startx Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Blender of neogeo.nl fame has exectly a windowsize of the size of the screen. So no windowmanager would be the best. How do I manage this ? Living with two .xinitrcs. There must be a way to do this with shellscripts. X basics....newbie question ? Blender is a strong reason to run FBSD ;-) H. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 3 2:49:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.petmail.net (mail.petmail.net [210.225.5.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 942FC37B8C0; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 02:49:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trys@petmail.net) Received: from smtp.petmail.net [63.12.71.107] by mail.petmail.net (SMTPD32-4.10) id A99F151012A; Mon, 03 Jul 2000 18:10:55 +0900 Message-ID: <200007031814.2128@trys.petmail.net> Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 18:14:20 +0900 From: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCMCYbKEI=?= To: trys@petmail.net Subject: =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJDMkcyRLJEEkTyEqISobKEI=?= MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-2022-jp" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Gen Mail 0.9b Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org $B(!(!(!(B $B$T!<$T$s$0Leee$2$?$N$G0lEY8+$KMh$FD:$1$^$;$s$+!)(B $B$A$g$&$I:#(B"$B$T!<$T$s$0L; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 07:35:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joy@kusnadi.famili.com) Received: from joyk (dyn3248a.dialin.rad.net.id [202.154.44.248]) by kelana.indo.net.id (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA04739 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 21:23:40 +0700 Message-ID: <000701bfe4fc$3dc55fa0$f82c9aca@joyk> From: "Joy Kusnadi" To: Subject: Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 21:37:11 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0015_01BFE3A4.83CDAF60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BFE3A4.83CDAF60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BFE3A4.83CDAF60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
------=_NextPart_000_0015_01BFE3A4.83CDAF60-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 3 10: 9:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (law-f124.hotmail.com [209.185.131.187]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 60C4737BA48 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 10:09:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ronnetron@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 44881 invoked by uid 0); 3 Jul 2000 17:09:22 -0000 Message-ID: <20000703170922.44880.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 63.203.116.218 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 03 Jul 2000 10:09:22 PDT X-Originating-IP: [63.203.116.218] From: "Ron Smith" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Apache and ssh Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 10:09:22 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All, I've just installed FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE and would like to know if "X" has to be installed and running before I install and use a web server (apache)? Also, I would like to use 'ssh' on this machine, but when I try to run the deamon, '/usr/sbin/sshd', I get the following error message: error: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key: No such file or directory Does anyone happen to know what this is about? Or, can anyone point me in the direction of some documentation on this? TIA Ron Smith ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 3 11:45: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from s1.mail.pciwest.net (s1.mail.pciwest.net [64.5.1.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DDAA237BD25 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 11:44:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rhoward@fidelity.presys.com) Received: (qmail 29593 invoked from network); 3 Jul 2000 18:44:51 -0000 Received: from pppc-64-5-9-162.lakeview.pciwest.net (HELO fidelity.presys.com) (rhoward@64.5.9.162) by presys.com with SMTP; 3 Jul 2000 18:44:51 -0000 Message-ID: <3960DF0F.B98F8AFC@fidelity.presys.com> Date: Mon, 03 Jul 2000 11:44:31 -0700 From: Bob Howard X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.14-storm i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: 4.0 Power Pack Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org List, I am selling a like new (June) power pack FreeBSD 4.0, the latest edition handbook and ten CDs including the June snapshot... $65.00 which is $45 less than I paid for it (including shipping). Please contact me off-list or call 541-947-4576 Bob Howard To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 3 13:59:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62F8A37C211; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 13:59:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([192.168.91.36] ident=exim) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #1) id 139CYz-0005bG-00; Mon, 03 Jul 2000 21:11:29 +0100 Received: (from ben) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (Exim 3.15 #1) id 139CYz-000PIB-00; Mon, 03 Jul 2000 21:11:29 +0100 Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 21:11:29 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Ron Smith Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Apache and ssh Message-ID: <20000703211129.B48373@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <20000703170922.44880.qmail@hotmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="M8g8Xvd1npd+rU3W" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20000703170922.44880.qmail@hotmail.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --M8g8Xvd1npd+rU3W Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Ron Smith wrote: > Also, I would like to use 'ssh' on this machine, but when I try to run th= e=20 > deamon, '/usr/sbin/sshd', I get the following error message: >=20 > error: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key: No such file or=20 > directory Put sshd_enable=3DYES in /etc/rc.conf and the host key will be created on your next reboot (and sshd will be automatically started of course). Or you can do it before then (you don't reboot for a little thing like this), the appropriate commands are in /etc/rc.network: /usr/bin/ssh-keygen -N "" -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key --=20 Ben Smithurst / ben@scientia.demon.co.uk / PGP: 0x99392F7D --M8g8Xvd1npd+rU3W Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 5.0i for non-commercial use MessageID: I38mCv09YGRuPQseQbqhEEfs9iVk9edH iQCVAwUBOWDzcCsPVtiZOS99AQFwlQP/Um1FGYZaINegXvAHc47SIk5hfWJWsNQy NtBeIsV57RsLiesoWPCI+1WFW0zjS1cjxrhXpnPK+23Finje24+ufFG2ILkcmKkf 7C3LJqBNdx2JCCdUay4JIlLiJd4QEd50+mq637hIBM093f1ZcR6oqxc8L59fII01 bGuQ2PIJjAM= =ttrB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --M8g8Xvd1npd+rU3W-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 3 19:16:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pop.idx.com.au (pop.idx.com.au [203.14.30.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 73FC737C246; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 19:16:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dannyh@idx.com.au) Received: from dannyh.freebsd.org (tntwc01-3-23.idx.com.au [203.166.3.23]) by pop.idx.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA12332; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 12:16:26 +1000 From: Danny To: "Ron Smith" , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Apache and ssh Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 12:22:26 +1000 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000703170922.44880.qmail@hotmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00070412230403.00411@dannyh.freebsd.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Apache web server has nothing to do with X. You do not need to install X before yo install Apache. On Tue, 04 Jul 2000, Ron Smith wrote: > Hi All, > > I've just installed FreeBSD 4.0-RELEASE and would like to know if "X" has to > be installed and running before I install and use a web server (apache)? > > Also, I would like to use 'ssh' on this machine, but when I try to run the > deamon, '/usr/sbin/sshd', I get the following error message: > > error: Could not load host key: /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key: No such file or > directory > > Does anyone happen to know what this is about? Or, can anyone point me in > the direction of some documentation on this? > > TIA > Ron Smith > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message -- ---------------------------------------------------------------- You are not authorized to use my email address for any purpose. This is a violation of my privacy. Remove my email address from your databases immediately. ---------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Jul 3 19:48:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45C9F37C345 for ; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 19:48:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from goldtech@worldpost.com) Received: from 209-122-221-49.s557.tnt3.nyw.ny.dialup.rcn.com ([209.122.221.49] helo=beefstew) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 139IlC-0004bR-00 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 3 Jul 2000 22:48:35 -0400 Message-ID: <003301bfe562$6b1ea770$31dd7ad1@beefstew> From: "leegold" To: Subject: xcdplayer Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 22:49:04 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org anybody know about getting xcdplayer to work? if so see below and go to the question mail list were I posted a similiar question and help me out please. xcdplayer & in my .xinitrc gives an open xcdplayer control panel in X. But the xcdplayer panel/window says: "no disc ". I figured I'd try to mount the music cd as root, then see if xcdplayer sees a disk. But that's not correct because err. message: file system not recognized and not "9660" ect. Starting xcdplayer from the cmd line in an xterm window doesn't work as root - I get "Device not configured", as lee ( a user) I get: " permission denied". Both error messages are continually scrolled till I do a control c. but starting xcdplayer in the .xinitrc seems to open it OK. except when I exit X the console has "device not configured" scrolled on it. So, I think there's a little more configuring I have to do. Any help appreciated. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 4 0:13: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-1.ig.com.br (smtp-1.ig.com.br [200.225.157.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 561A337C34F for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 00:12:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from augusto.bott@via-rs.net) Received: (qmail 21252 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2000 07:15:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO k6) (200.213.75.138) by smtp-1.ig.com.br with SMTP; 4 Jul 2000 07:15:37 -0000 Message-ID: <000201bfe587$6be245c0$0201040a@k6> From: "Augusto Bott" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Startup file Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2000 17:15:53 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Ron, for inetd, -=- /etc/inetd.conf for local services -=- /etc/rc.local for some autos (e.g. using sysinstall) -=- /etc/rc.conf also: /etc/rc.d/, /usr/local/etc/rc.d/ Hope it helped Augusto -----Mensagem original----- De: Ron Smith Para: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Data: Quinta-feira, 22 de Junho de 2000 20:52 Assunto: Startup file >Hi all, > >Does anyone know which file FreeBSD uses as it's startup file for the >services you want to run at bootup? > >Ron Smith > >________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 4 5:38:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sentry.granch.ru (sentry.granch.ru [212.20.5.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0F1C37B869 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 05:38:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shelton@sentry.granch.ru) Received: (from shelton@localhost) by sentry.granch.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA03618 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 19:39:39 +0700 (NOVST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 19:39:38 +0700 (NOVST) Reply-To: "Rashid N. Achilov" Organization: Granch Ltd. From: "Rashid N. Achilov" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: DUMMYNET configure Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE, IPFIREWALL, IPFIREWALL_FORWARD,IPDIVERT,IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE included in kernel config, DUMMYNET also. ipfw add pipe 1 from A to B out ipfw add pipe 2 from B to A in These commands are successful. When trying ipfw pipe 1 config bw 9600bit/s (try also 64Kbit/s) I see message ipfw: setsockopt(IP_DUMMYNET_CONFIGURE): Invalid argument What I have done wrong? Please, explain me, I cannot connect one of our clients without bandwith limitation... -- With Best Regards. Rashid N. Achilov (RNA1-RIPE), Cert. ID: 28514, Granch Ltd. lead engineer e-mail: achilov@granch.ru, tel (383-2) 24-2363 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 4 7:18:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from spectre.honk.org (cr876208-a.flfrd1.on.wave.home.com [24.42.175.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C32E937B861 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 07:18:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpoulin@honk.org) Received: from spectre.honk.org (mpoulin@spectre.honk.org [24.42.175.137]) by spectre.honk.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA03494; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 10:19:05 -0400 Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 10:19:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Marty Poulin To: leegold Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xcdplayer In-Reply-To: <003301bfe562$6b1ea770$31dd7ad1@beefstew> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org First problem: you can't mount an audio CD - there's no filesystem to mount. The rest of the problems are more tricky. I seem to remember from some time ago that xcdplayer and cdplayer like the CD-ROM to be /dev/cdrom or /cdrom. Try creating symbolic links for both of those to your actual cdrom device (probably /dev/acd0a or something) hint: to create symbolic links: ln -s (man ln for more info) - M - On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, leegold wrote: > anybody know about getting xcdplayer to work? if so see below and > go to the question mail list were I posted a similiar question and > help me out please. > > xcdplayer & in my .xinitrc gives an open xcdplayer control > panel in X. But the xcdplayer panel/window says: "no disc ". I > figured I'd try to mount the music cd as root, then see if > xcdplayer sees a disk. But that's not correct because err. > message: file system not recognized and not "9660" ect. Starting > xcdplayer from the cmd line in an xterm window doesn't work as > root - I get "Device not configured", as lee ( a user) I get: > " permission denied". Both error messages are continually > scrolled till I do a control c. but starting xcdplayer in the > .xinitrc seems to open it OK. except when I exit X the console > has "device not configured" scrolled on it. > > So, I think there's a little more configuring I have to do. Any > help appreciated. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 4 15:24:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from aldus.northnet.org (aldus.northnet.org [198.175.11.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CF66937BB51 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 15:24:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from weserveu@northnet.org) Received: (qmail 18484 invoked from network); 4 Jul 2000 22:24:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO northnet.org) (205.232.141.106) by aldus.northnet.org with SMTP; 4 Jul 2000 22:24:59 -0000 Message-ID: <3962642A.C43D9443@northnet.org> Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 18:24:50 -0400 From: Abscond Process Service Reply-To: WeServeU@northnet.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: X Windows Problem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I am using an AMD K62 at 550, DFI Motherboard, 128 Megs of RAM. My video card is a XPERT 2000 from ATI it uses the 128 bit graphics chip. I am using Free BSD OS 4.0 and here is my problem. Under X Windows using the SVGA server and using the R128 driver everything works fine. However, fonts in terminal windows or fonts in the title bar of windows and in pop-up windows won't display correctly. Their appearance resembles bar codes and is completely unreadible. I have tried every ATI 128 bit graphics card on the list and it makes no difference, same result occurs. Under Free BSD OS 4.0 I have tried the VGA 16 server to see if the problem occurs in that mode and it simple will not work no matter how I have tried it. Under Free BSD 3.3 VGA 16 X Window server works fine; I can see all the fonts and everything works perfectly. However, there are no 128 bit drivers for ATI cards under BSD 3.3. BSD 3.3 uses X windows version 3.35. BSD 4 uses X Window 3.36. I am utterly frustrated at this point with this problem because I don't know if it's because my graphics card (ATI Xpert 2000) is not directly supported or is it some other problem I am unaware of? Thank you for your time. Aaron P. Smith weserveu@northnet.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 4 20:22:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49D9037B533 for ; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 20:22:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from goldtech@worldpost.com) Received: from 209-122-226-74.s328.tnt1.nyw.ny.dialup.rcn.com ([209.122.226.74] helo=beefstew) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 139flr-0002ff-00; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 23:22:44 -0400 Message-ID: <000401bfe630$5d42a290$4ae27ad1@beefstew> From: "leegold" To: Cc: References: <3962642A.C43D9443@northnet.org> Subject: Re: X Windows Problem Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2000 23:23:17 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org HEY! The ATI Expert 2000 is NOT supported!!! I was in exactly the same position - I bought that card and it did the same thing. My advice: Do not use that card for X. Remove it from your pc and swap in another card that IS supported. In my case I had a DELL w/an STB Velocity 128. I simply swapped the cards and ergo the STB is now in my FreeBSD box and it works like a charm. So it's the card - as of right now that ATI card will not work in X. There are supposedly some patches/fixes but i would not go that route. Just use a fully supported card. ----- Original Message ----- From: Abscond Process Service To: ; Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2000 6:24 PM Subject: X Windows Problem > Hello, > > I am using an AMD K62 at 550, DFI Motherboard, 128 Megs of RAM. My > video card is a XPERT 2000 from ATI it uses the 128 bit graphics chip. > I am using Free BSD OS 4.0 and here is my problem. Under X Windows > using the SVGA server and using the R128 driver everything works fine. > However, fonts in terminal windows or fonts in the title bar of windows > and in pop-up windows won't display correctly. Their appearance > resembles bar codes and is completely unreadible. I have tried every > ATI 128 bit graphics card on the list and it makes no difference, same > result occurs. Under Free BSD OS 4.0 I have tried the VGA 16 server to > see if the problem occurs in that mode and it simple will not work no > matter how I have tried it. Under Free BSD 3.3 VGA 16 X Window server > works fine; I can see all the fonts and everything works perfectly. > However, there are no 128 bit drivers for ATI cards under BSD 3.3. BSD > 3.3 uses X windows version 3.35. BSD 4 uses X Window 3.36. I am utterly > > frustrated at this point with this problem because I don't know if it's > because my graphics card (ATI Xpert 2000) is not directly supported or > is it some other problem I am unaware of? > > Thank you for your time. > > Aaron P. Smith > weserveu@northnet.org > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Jul 4 23:45:47 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from bizhead.bizwind.com (ip28.236.54.216.in-addr.arpa [216.54.236.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCD8537BC86; Tue, 4 Jul 2000 23:45:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomokomail@anet.ne.jp) Received: from localhost [216.54.237.110] by bizhead.bizwind.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-5.08) id A99018AF0184; Tue, 04 Jul 2000 15:47:44 -1000 X-Sender: tomokomail@anet.ne.jp From: Tomoko To: "hello" Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2000 15:43:25 -1000 Subject: ごぶさたぁ〜 Message-Id: <200007041549983.SM00271@localhost> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ひさしぶり〜 元気だったぁ？？ エッチなサイト、みつけっちゃったぁ。 暇な時、見てみてね。 http://216.101.214.74/pwdti/ それじゃ、またね。 ばいばい ともこ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 5 5:49:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from snoopy.postfuture.com (smtp.postfuture.com [209.51.13.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2437937B791 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 05:49:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wsenn@postfuture.com) Received: from wwsenn (client.newscast.com [199.97.239.8]) by snoopy.postfuture.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id NNVQ6WKG; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 07:49:13 -0500 From: "Will Senn" To: "Freebsd-Newbies" , "Haikal Saadh" Subject: RE: Which release? Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 07:49:59 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-reply-To: <005601bfe3a5$a2ba71a0$dca593cb@timberwolf> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Oh and just in case you don't know, the default shell for FreeBSD is sh, not bash. That led to a little frustration for me when I first started. If you want bash, you'll have to install it yourself. It should be on the installation CD. Yup, no history! I loaded bash off the cd and ran chsh. The book actually mentioned this and how to fix it. I am running 4.0 now. Works well. I still have to figure out printing on my deskjet, sound on my sb16 and ppp on my supra (non win)modem. I miss sndconfig, apsfilter, and redhat's ppp configuration tool. Thanks, Will mailto:wsenn@postfuture.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 5 6:21:54 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from snoopy.postfuture.com (smtp.postfuture.com [209.51.13.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D680D37B8CD for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 06:21:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wsenn@postfuture.com) Received: from wwsenn (client.newscast.com [199.97.239.8]) by snoopy.postfuture.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id NNVQ6WKR; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 08:21:26 -0500 From: "Will Senn" To: "Freebsd-Newbies" , "Chris" Subject: RE: Which release? Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 08:22:13 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-reply-To: <20000705091209.B8296@kingsqueak.org> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chris, Thanks for your message, it was chock full of information. Most notably: 1. MAKEDEV snd0 (I knew about building the kernel) 2. the ports note (I was using /stand/sysinstall postinstall configuration which is horribly inefficient for searching) Thanks again, Will To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 5 7:27:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D013E37BEAE for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 07:27:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from goldtech@worldpost.com) Received: from 216-164-222-52.s306.tnt4.nyw.ny.dialup.rcn.com ([216.164.222.52] helo=beefstew) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 139q8y-0002qa-00; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:27:16 -0400 Message-ID: <000601bfe68d$336d6dd0$34dea4d8@beefstew> From: "leegold" To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jukka_Simil=E4?= Cc: References: <8F68F32EB034D311A4A700508B4417D70267BFF5@RATATOSK.sveg.se.sykes.com> Subject: Re: X Windows Problem Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:27:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 1. There's nothing wrong w/ATI cards. The ATI XPERT 2000 32MB for ~ $89 is an excellent value. 2. If the card is not supported - yet - swap in a different card which is supported. ----- Original Message ----- From: Jukka Simil To: 'leegold' ; Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 2:45 AM Subject: RE: X Windows Problem > > I wouldn't recommend buying a new (older?) card just because some other is > not yet working. First you should try if Xfree 4.0.1 supports it. (Well, > only reason why I would recommend buying a new card is that now you have an > ati;) This is from readme for rage 128 cards: > > 4. Reported Working Video Cards > > o Rage Fury AGP 32MB > > o XPERT 128 AGP 16MB > > o XPERT 99 AGP 8MB > > There is a completely new driver for 128 cards in 4.0, and there seems to > be already 4.0.1 version.. > take a look at www.xfree86.org and mirror sites at > http://www.xfree86.org/MIRRORS.shtml > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I am using an AMD K62 at 550, DFI Motherboard, 128 Megs of RAM. My > > > video card is a XPERT 2000 from ATI it uses the 128 bit > > graphics chip. > > > I am using Free BSD OS 4.0 and here is my problem. Under X Windows > > > using the SVGA server and using the R128 driver everything > > works fine. > > > However, fonts in terminal windows or fonts in the title > > bar of windows > > > and in pop-up windows won't display correctly. Their appearance > > > resembles bar codes and is completely unreadible. I have > > tried every > > > ATI 128 bit graphics card on the list and it makes no > > difference, same > > > result occurs. Under Free BSD OS 4.0 I have tried the VGA > > 16 server to > > > see if the problem occurs in that mode and it simple will > > not work no > > > matter how I have tried it. Under Free BSD 3.3 VGA 16 X > > Window server > > > works fine; I can see all the fonts and everything works perfectly. > > > However, there are no 128 bit drivers for ATI cards under > > BSD 3.3. BSD > > > 3.3 uses X windows version 3.35. BSD 4 uses X Window 3.36. > > I am utterly > > > > > > frustrated at this point with this problem because I don't > > know if it's > > > because my graphics card (ATI Xpert 2000) is not directly > > supported or > > > is it some other problem I am unaware of? > > > > > > Thank you for your time. > > > > > > Aaron P. Smith > > > weserveu@northnet.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 5 7:53:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF1A37BB28 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 07:53:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from goldtech@worldpost.com) Received: from 216-164-222-52.s306.tnt4.nyw.ny.dialup.rcn.com ([216.164.222.52] helo=beefstew) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 139qYe-0006pQ-00; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:53:48 -0400 Message-ID: <000b01bfe690$e8784b20$34dea4d8@beefstew> From: "leegold" To: Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jukka_Simil=E4?= Subject: Re: X Windows Problem Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:54:22 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Of course. Note: I said " - yet -". If the card is not supported "yet". > I'll stick to my opinion: > one should always check the latest release if he want's support for a new > card. > > > " yet " > > > "> 2. If the card is not supported - yet - swap in a different card > > which is supported." > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: leegold [mailto:goldtech@worldpost.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 4:28 PM > > To: Jukka Simil > > Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: X Windows Problem > > > > > > 1. There's nothing wrong w/ATI cards. The ATI XPERT 2000 32MB > > for ~ $89 is > > an excellent value. > > > > 2. If the card is not supported - yet - swap in a different card > > which is supported. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Jukka Simil > > To: 'leegold' ; > > Cc: > > Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 2:45 AM > > Subject: RE: X Windows Problem > > > > > > > > > > I wouldn't recommend buying a new (older?) card just > > because some other is > > > not yet working. First you should try if Xfree 4.0.1 > > supports it. (Well, > > > only reason why I would recommend buying a new card is that > > now you have > > an > > > ati;) This is from readme for rage 128 cards: > > > > > > 4. Reported Working Video Cards > > > > > > o Rage Fury AGP 32MB > > > > > > o XPERT 128 AGP 16MB > > > > > > o XPERT 99 AGP 8MB > > > > > > There is a completely new driver for 128 cards in 4.0, and > > there seems to > > > be already 4.0.1 version.. > > > take a look at www.xfree86.org and mirror sites at > > > http://www.xfree86.org/MIRRORS.shtml > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > > > > I am using an AMD K62 at 550, DFI Motherboard, 128 Megs > > of RAM. My > > > > > video card is a XPERT 2000 from ATI it uses the 128 bit > > > > graphics chip. > > > > > I am using Free BSD OS 4.0 and here is my problem. > > Under X Windows > > > > > using the SVGA server and using the R128 driver everything > > > > works fine. > > > > > However, fonts in terminal windows or fonts in the title > > > > bar of windows > > > > > and in pop-up windows won't display correctly. Their appearance > > > > > resembles bar codes and is completely unreadible. I have > > > > tried every > > > > > ATI 128 bit graphics card on the list and it makes no > > > > difference, same > > > > > result occurs. Under Free BSD OS 4.0 I have tried the VGA > > > > 16 server to > > > > > see if the problem occurs in that mode and it simple will > > > > not work no > > > > > matter how I have tried it. Under Free BSD 3.3 VGA 16 X > > > > Window server > > > > > works fine; I can see all the fonts and everything > > works perfectly. > > > > > However, there are no 128 bit drivers for ATI cards under > > > > BSD 3.3. BSD > > > > > 3.3 uses X windows version 3.35. BSD 4 uses X Window 3.36. > > > > I am utterly > > > > > > > > > > frustrated at this point with this problem because I don't > > > > know if it's > > > > > because my graphics card (ATI Xpert 2000) is not directly > > > > supported or > > > > > is it some other problem I am unaware of? > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your time. > > > > > > > > > > Aaron P. Smith > > > > > weserveu@northnet.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 5 10:11:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f144.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D043B37B621 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:11:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aethodt@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 89786 invoked by uid 0); 5 Jul 2000 17:11:32 -0000 Message-ID: <20000705171132.89785.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 198.174.83.240 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Wed, 05 Jul 2000 10:11:32 PDT X-Originating-IP: [198.174.83.240] From: "tbsd user" To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: unsubscribe Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 09:11:32 AKDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org unsubscribe ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 5 10:28:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ADF137B8A3 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:28:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.69.47]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAAC1C; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:29:51 -0700 Message-ID: <39636F9B.F7C4FEDD@acuson.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 10:25:47 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Will Senn Cc: Freebsd-Newbies Subject: Re: Which release? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Will Senn wrote: > I miss sndconfig, apsfilter, and redhat's ppp configuration tool. You still have apsfilter in the packages and ports. For sound you will need to compile a kernel. It's not that difficult but you have to read the manual first. ppp is already in the default kernel, and you can set it up with sysinstall. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 5 10:55:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0ED4737BC0C for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:55:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.69.47]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA1BAE; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 10:56:53 -0700 Message-ID: <396375F6.F2F84F7D@acuson.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 10:52:54 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: leegold Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tar and patch - help a newbie References: <001601bfe314$caf15d50$3ce17ad1@beefstew> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org leegold wrote: > > Below are some instructions I have to follow to hopefully get some sound > working on my FReeBSD. I have learned how to build a kernel - think I can do > that. But I have had some nasty experiences w/tar in the past. Has anyone helped you with this yet over the weekend? If not, here's some missing steps: > 1. Download the driver source code (link). I'm assuming that you have this on a floppy and have the floppy mounted under /mnt. I'm also assuming that you have installed the kernel sources. You will need to be root to do the following steps. > 2. Extract it in the base of your kernel source tree: > cd /usr/src/sys > tar zxvf auvia.tar.gz They're wanting you to extract what you've downloaded into the kernel source tree. First you need to copy the file over: cp /mnt/auvia.tar.gz /usr/src/sys Then do the above steps exactly as shown. > 3. Patch the following files: > cd conf > patch < files.diff What you are doing here is patching some source files. A patch contains differences between some original files and some new files. By patching you change some original files into new files. For example, instead of these guys distributing the a foo.c file in it's entirety, they're essentially just distributing the single line of source code that actually changed. Since you are patching in the conf directory, I'm wondering what is being patched. This directory contains your kernel configurations. I'm guessing that the only thing worthwhile patching in here is LINT and GENERIC. But this doesn't make sense given step #5. If you're truly curious, examine files.diff to see what file is being patched and what they're changing. I'd follow the above steps exactly as shown. > 5. In your kernel configuration file, place the line: > device pcm0 Use your Favorite Editor(tm) and place that single line somewhere in your kernel configuration file. Read the manual first on building kernels. Somewhere along the way you should have copied the GENERIC file over to MYKERNEL (or some other name of your choosing). All this added line does is compile in new-style sound support. > 6. Compile the new kernel. Read The FreeBSD Manual (RTFM) on how to build a kernel. It really isn't that difficult if you read the FM. And don't forget the step on creating new devices. For sound you need to make snd0. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 5 11: 7:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from shepherd.hurlburt.af.mil (shepherd.hurlburt.af.mil [151.166.15.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 245B437BB55 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:07:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Mark.Hummel@hurlburt.af.mil) Received: from shepherd.hurlburt.af.mil (root@localhost) by shepherd.hurlburt.af.mil with ESMTP id NAA22881 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:07:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark.Hummel@hurlburt.af.mil Received: from exwncc01.hurlburt.af.mil (exwncc01.hurlburt.af.mil [151.166.208.37]) by shepherd.hurlburt.af.mil with ESMTP id NAA22869 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:07:42 -0500 (CDT) Received: by exwncc01.hurlburt.af.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <3GPLMXYX>; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:07:44 -0500 Message-ID: <856532CB07BED3118FE300204840E28A011075BD@vexwncc02.hurlburt.af.mil> To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Can't unmount my zip drive ??? Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:05:05 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have an internal IDE 100MB Zip drive. I've updated /etc/fstab correctly because the drive mounts to /zip without a problem. The problem is the umount command fails. I get the error: device busy. I can also eject the disks anytime I want even when the drive is mounted. Any suggestions? Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 5 11:13:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sunburst.csfi.com (sunburst.csfi.com [204.1.38.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9364A37BDD2 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:13:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yong@csfi.com) Received: from yongdell (pc_yong [204.1.38.26]) by sunburst.csfi.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id OAA14832; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:13:02 -0400 (EDT) From: "Yong Lim" To: , Subject: RE: Can't unmount my zip drive ??? Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:13:22 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-reply-To: <856532CB07BED3118FE300204840E28A011075BD@vexwncc02.hurlburt.af.mil> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org When you try to umount, don't have root or anyone else stay in the /zip directory. Device busy usually mean someone is in the /zip directory. Yong -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mark.Hummel@hurlburt.af.mil Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 2:05 PM To: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Can't unmount my zip drive ??? I have an internal IDE 100MB Zip drive. I've updated /etc/fstab correctly because the drive mounts to /zip without a problem. The problem is the umount command fails. I get the error: device busy. I can also eject the disks anytime I want even when the drive is mounted. Any suggestions? Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 5 11:15:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from shepherd.hurlburt.af.mil (shepherd.hurlburt.af.mil [151.166.15.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F08D37B9C6 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 11:15:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Mark.Hummel@hurlburt.af.mil) Received: from shepherd.hurlburt.af.mil (root@localhost) by shepherd.hurlburt.af.mil with ESMTP id NAA25076; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:15:10 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark.Hummel@hurlburt.af.mil Received: from exwncc01.hurlburt.af.mil (exwncc01.hurlburt.af.mil [151.166.208.37]) by shepherd.hurlburt.af.mil with ESMTP id NAA25068; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:15:10 -0500 (CDT) Received: by exwncc01.hurlburt.af.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <3GPLMYBF>; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:15:12 -0500 Message-ID: <856532CB07BED3118FE300204840E28A011075BE@vexwncc02.hurlburt.af.mil> To: yong@csfi.com, newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Can't unmount my zip drive ??? Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:12:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org That's correct. I'm completely out of the mounted /zip directory when I attempt to umount the drive. Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: Yong Lim [SMTP:yong@csfi.com] > Sent: Wednesday, 05 July, 2000 1313 > To: Mark.Hummel@hurlburt.af.mil; newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: Can't unmount my zip drive ??? > > When you try to umount, don't have root or anyone else stay in the /zip > directory. Device busy usually mean someone is in the /zip directory. > > Yong > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of > Mark.Hummel@hurlburt.af.mil > Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 2:05 PM > To: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Can't unmount my zip drive ??? > > > I have an internal IDE 100MB Zip drive. I've updated /etc/fstab correctly > because the drive mounts to /zip without a problem. The problem is the > umount command fails. I get the error: device busy. I can also eject the > disks anytime I want even when the drive is mounted. Any suggestions? > > Mark > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 5 12:28:45 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B07D837B740 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:28:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from goldtech@worldpost.com) Received: from 216-164-220-177.s177.tnt5.nyw.ny.dialup.rcn.com ([216.164.220.177] helo=beefstew) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 139uqX-0005XS-00; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 15:28:34 -0400 Message-ID: <000401bfe6b7$49f85b80$b1dca4d8@beefstew> From: "leegold" To: "David Johnson" Cc: References: <001601bfe314$caf15d50$3ce17ad1@beefstew> <396375F6.F2F84F7D@acuson.com> Subject: Re: tar and patch - help a newbie Thanks Date: Wed, 5 Jul 2000 15:29:07 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well yes, I got some help and fortunately it wasn't "rocket science" and I got the commands to work OK. But I will print out and review your post - Thanks. I tried being a real "gun slinger" and commenting out devs before I rebuilt the new kernel - but that backfired and I got some error messages - so I ended up just adding the device I needed ( pcm0 ) and changing indent field to a new name ( vs. GENERIC ) and deferred streamlining my kernel to another time. And I an getting audio now - so it worked. Just minor stuff to iron out now. A couple of error messages ect. but I can play audio cds now - excellent. Lee ----- Original Message ----- From: David Johnson To: leegold Cc: Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 1:52 PM Subject: Re: tar and patch - help a newbie > leegold wrote: > > > > Below are some instructions I have to follow to hopefully get some sound > > working on my FReeBSD. I have learned how to build a kernel - think I can do > > that. But I have had some nasty experiences w/tar in the past. > > Has anyone helped you with this yet over the weekend? If not, here's > some missing steps: > > > 1. Download the driver source code (link). > > I'm assuming that you have this on a floppy and have the floppy mounted > under /mnt. I'm also assuming that you have installed the kernel > sources. You will need to be root to do the following steps. > > > 2. Extract it in the base of your kernel source tree: > > cd /usr/src/sys > > tar zxvf auvia.tar.gz > > They're wanting you to extract what you've downloaded into the kernel > source tree. > > First you need to copy the file over: > cp /mnt/auvia.tar.gz /usr/src/sys > Then do the above steps exactly as shown. > > > 3. Patch the following files: > > cd conf > > patch < files.diff > > What you are doing here is patching some source files. A patch contains > differences between some original files and some new files. By patching > you change some original files into new files. For example, instead of > these guys distributing the a foo.c file in it's entirety, they're > essentially just distributing the single line of source code that > actually changed. > > Since you are patching in the conf directory, I'm wondering what is > being patched. This directory contains your kernel configurations. I'm > guessing that the only thing worthwhile patching in here is LINT and > GENERIC. But this doesn't make sense given step #5. If you're truly > curious, examine files.diff to see what file is being patched and what > they're changing. > > I'd follow the above steps exactly as shown. > > > 5. In your kernel configuration file, place the line: > > device pcm0 > > Use your Favorite Editor(tm) and place that single line somewhere in > your kernel configuration file. Read the manual first on building > kernels. Somewhere along the way you should have copied the GENERIC file > over to MYKERNEL (or some other name of your choosing). All this added > line does is compile in new-style sound support. > > > 6. Compile the new kernel. > > Read The FreeBSD Manual (RTFM) on how to build a kernel. It really isn't > that difficult if you read the FM. And don't forget the step on creating > new devices. For sound you need to make snd0. > > David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 5 12:39:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 489C937BB58 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:39:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.69.47]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA56ED; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 12:41:07 -0700 Message-ID: <39638E64.94891729@acuson.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 12:37:08 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: leegold Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: tar and patch - help a newbie Thanks References: <001601bfe314$caf15d50$3ce17ad1@beefstew> <396375F6.F2F84F7D@acuson.com> <000401bfe6b7$49f85b80$b1dca4d8@beefstew> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org leegold wrote: > I tried being a real "gun slinger" and commenting out devs before I rebuilt > the new kernel - but that backfired and I got some error messages... I botched my first build as well. It must be a rite of passage. > but I can play audio cds now - excellent. Woohoo! David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 5 13:24:33 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from prserv.net (out2.prserv.net [32.97.166.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A65C537B5E5 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 13:24:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mick3@ibm.net) Received: from ibm.net ([166.72.155.104]) by prserv.net (out2) with SMTP id <2000070520234622900glc57e>; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 20:23:46 +0000 Message-ID: <39639993.C28DCF25@ibm.net> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 13:24:51 -0700 From: John Michelini X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: X11R6 Install problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Folks, During Install, at "Choose Distributions," I chose #2, "X-Developer," but when I type at $, I get the following: Execve failed for /usr/x11r6/bin/x X11TransSocketUNIXConnect failed... I have tried a post-install re-config, but to no avail. Any thoughts or pointers to relevant archives? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Jul 5 14:50:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.mia.bellsouth.net (mail2.mia.bellsouth.net [205.152.144.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75C3037B621 for ; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 14:50:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pineypl@bellsouth.net) Received: from bellsouth.net (adsl-61-16-127.mia.bellsouth.net [208.61.16.127]) by mail2.mia.bellsouth.net (3.3.5alt/0.75.2) with ESMTP id RAA27215; Wed, 5 Jul 2000 17:50:15 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3963B03D.D9D5D282@bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2000 18:01:33 -0400 From: Bob Collins X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark.Hummel@hurlburt.af.mil Cc: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Can't unmount my zip drive ??? References: <856532CB07BED3118FE300204840E28A011075BE@vexwncc02.hurlburt.af.mil> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mark.Hummel@hurlburt.af.mil wrote: > > That's correct. I'm completely out of the mounted /zip directory when I > attempt to umount the drive. > > Mark > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Yong Lim [SMTP:yong@csfi.com] > > Sent: Wednesday, 05 July, 2000 1313 > > To: Mark.Hummel@hurlburt.af.mil; newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: RE: Can't unmount my zip drive ??? > > > > When you try to umount, don't have root or anyone else stay in the /zip > > directory. Device busy usually mean someone is in the /zip directory. > > > > Yong > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of > > Mark.Hummel@hurlburt.af.mil > > Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 2:05 PM > > To: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Can't unmount my zip drive ??? > > > > > > I have an internal IDE 100MB Zip drive. I've updated /etc/fstab correctly > > because the drive mounts to /zip without a problem. The problem is the > > umount command fails. I get the error: device busy. I can also eject the > > disks anytime I want even when the drive is mounted. Any suggestions? Sounds strange. Are you mounting the drive with a filesystem such as : mount -t msdos /dev/wfd0s4 /zip or mount_msdos /dev/wfd0s4 /zip I know on my system, once the zip is mounted it will NOT eject unless it is unmounted. Who is mounting the disk, root or su? Bob To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jul 6 0:56:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from cepheus.azstarnet.com (cepheus.azstarnet.com [169.197.56.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7B937C13C for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 00:56:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sbcorey@azstarnet.com) Received: from azstarnet.com (sbcorey@dialup02ip051.tus.azstarnet.com [169.197.30.179]) by cepheus.azstarnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA16437; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 00:56:28 -0700 (MST) X-Sent-via: StarNet http://www.azstarnet.com/ Message-ID: <39643BA7.38114A1D@azstarnet.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 00:56:23 -0700 From: S B COREY X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.16 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Michelini Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: X11R6 Install problems References: <39639993.C28DCF25@ibm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Did you first configure X with either XF86Setup (GUI) or xconfigurator (text)? What version of X are you using? What type of video card are you using? What type of monitor? What type of mouse? http://www.xfree86.org/FAQ/ is a great place to start with troubleshooting. However, if you have not first configured X to operate on your system, then that is most likely the problem. http://www.xfree86.org/FAQ/#Err11 is a direct response to your message. Scott John Michelini wrote: > Hi Folks, > > During Install, at "Choose Distributions," I chose #2, "X-Developer," > but when I type at $, I get the following: > Execve failed for /usr/x11r6/bin/x > X11TransSocketUNIXConnect failed... > > I have tried a post-install re-config, but to no avail. > > Any thoughts or pointers to relevant archives? > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jul 6 1:54:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9944C37B7B1 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 01:54:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from moritz.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p62.dialin.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.62]) by f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA64470 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:52:23 +0200 Received: from moritz (moritz [10.0.0.4]) by moritz.alleswirdgelber (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA00674 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:16:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:16:44 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@moritz.alleswirdgelber To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Again Wordperfect.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, its maybe a "question", and more a "question" than a "newbie question", but I can put it as a "newbie observation", and as there are so many very content users of this nearly perfect wordprocessor here: When I open xwp (from the command line) from another directory than ~/, it creates its .wpcr directory there. Wordperfect, is it so stupid or did I just overlook something ? Is there any way to force it to find its ~/.wprc ? Never seen something like that. And it looks as if each user has to register wp. Not the best way of promotion... Corel Draw....which had a bad reputation, now I know why. And another question, Windowsbashing: somebody sent me something from Westlaw, some of his articles, three files, but it arrived as one big "winmail.dat". What is this ? A progress in computer technology or the contrary ? Rethorical question. Anyway, any way to decipher this ? It was difficult enough to transfer those articles, so I dont want to bother this windows person in California with this. H. PS, Dataminerbashing, it worked with bla@bla.bla, anyway:

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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jul 6 2:42: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EE5F37B95A for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 02:42:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from martian@t-online.de) Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.com by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 13A8AV-0007AB-00; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:42:03 +0200 Received: from theol (320075607657-0001@[62.158.176.47]) by fwd05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 13A8AM-1nBX3gC; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:41:54 +0200 Message-ID: <001301bfe72e$7d365d90$0201a8c0@theol> From: martian@t-online.de (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Martin_M=F6ller?=) To: Subject: Installation question Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 11:42:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Sender: 320075607657-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, folks! Could you please help a poor OS/2 Warp user who wants to switch OS to FreeBSD?? At the moment, I don't have any FreeBSD installed on my machine. Now I've read on www.freebsd.org, that one can install FBSD with a single bootdisk over PPP. My problem is: I have a PCI ISDN card and as far as I can see, the GENERIC kernel on the bootdisk does not support ISDN. I can't compile a new KERNEL cause (s.o.) I don't have FBSD on my HD yet. Has anyone an idea how I can solve that problem? Mit freundlichen Grﾟen / kind regards, Martin Mller (martian@t-online.de) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jul 6 6:15: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 194C337B6EF; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 06:15:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from no-spamgoldtech@worldpost.com) Received: from 209-122-227-235.s235.tnt2.nyw.ny.dialup.rcn.com ([209.122.227.235] helo=beefstew) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 13ABUc-0001a7-00; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:15:03 -0400 Message-ID: <000f01bfe74c$46e95210$ebe37ad1@beefstew> From: "leegold" To: , , Subject: ioctl (cdromreadtochdr): : Input/Output error Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:15:34 -0400 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In .xinitrc I have: xcdplayer -device /dev/acd0c & and when I: # startx, xcdplayer works - It plays music cds - seems to be fully funtional. But, When I exit out of X (wmx ), I see repeatedly scrolled on the console: ioctl (cdromreadtochdr): : Input/Output error ioctl (cdromreadtochdr): : Input/Output error ioctl (cdromreadtochdr): : Input/Output error ... Any ideas what's up w/this error message and how to correct it? Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jul 6 6:32:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f101.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E58A237BBAA for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 06:32:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from midios4@hotmail.com) Received: (qmail 99002 invoked by uid 0); 6 Jul 2000 13:32:26 -0000 Message-ID: <20000706133226.99001.qmail@hotmail.com> Received: from 195.66.101.66 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Thu, 06 Jul 2000 06:32:26 PDT X-Originating-IP: [195.66.101.66] From: "Dimitri T." To: no-spamgoldtech@worldpost.com Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ioctl (cdromreadtochdr): : Input/Output error Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 13:32:26 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, My guess is that xcdplayer is still running when you exit X (check this with 'top'). Make sure you close xcdplayer properly.. Dimitri >In .xinitrc I have: xcdplayer -device /dev/acd0c & > >and when I: # startx, xcdplayer works - It plays music cds - seems to be >fully funtional. > >But, When I exit out of X (wmx ), I see repeatedly scrolled on the console: > >ioctl (cdromreadtochdr): : Input/Output error >ioctl (cdromreadtochdr): : Input/Output error >ioctl (cdromreadtochdr): : Input/Output error >... > > >Any ideas what's up w/this error message and how to correct it? ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jul 6 7:40:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from glitch.crosswinds.net (glitch.crosswinds.net [209.208.163.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB26537C3B9 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 07:40:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oilman@crosswinds.net) Received: from francis.crosswinds.net (home-dhcp3-146.Colorado.EDU [198.11.17.146]) by glitch.crosswinds.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA92551 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:40:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from oilman@crosswinds.net) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.0.20000706070345.00a994b0@pop.crosswinds.net> X-Sender: oilman@pop.crosswinds.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 07:10:26 -0600 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: Daniel Beauregard Subject: Re: Again Wordperfect.. In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 10:16 AM 7/6/00 +0200, Heiko Recktenwald wrote: >And another question, Windowsbashing: somebody sent me something from >Westlaw, some of his articles, three files, but it arrived as one big >"winmail.dat". What is this ? A progress in computer technology or the >contrary ? Rethorical question. Anyway, any way to decipher this ? >It was difficult enough to transfer those articles, so I dont want to >bother this windows person in California with this. I've gotten this kind of attachment from users who use Micro$oft Outlook. I have no idea how to decipher it, nor to I know when it occurs and when it does not. In any case, it's extremely annoying and demonstrates the complete disregard Micro$oft has for keeping established standards intact. oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo "For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, slaves or free persons, and we were all given to drink of one Spirit." - 1 Corinthians 12:13 Dan Beauregard Alumnae, University of Colorado - Boulder Electrical Engineer Kappa Kappa Psi - Alpha Iota oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jul 6 7:44:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from spectre.honk.org (cr876208-a.flfrd1.on.wave.home.com [24.42.175.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9648E37C375 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 07:44:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mpoulin@honk.org) Received: from spectre.honk.org (mpoulin@spectre.honk.org [24.42.175.137]) by spectre.honk.org (8.9.1/8.9.1) with SMTP id KAA06888; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:44:21 -0400 Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:44:20 -0400 (EDT) From: Marty Poulin To: Heiko Recktenwald Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Again Wordperfect.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Heh - at least you didn't try to install Wordperfect Office 2000... < windows binary running under WINE - blech. > It installs and runs beautifully under Corel Linux, but be prepared to lose *lots* of hair trying to run it on any other platform! With WP8, did you install it as root, or as a specific user? I think their rationale goes something like this: Multi-user machines should install it as root, then each user will be able to register and run their own instance of WP. This would explain the =2Ewprc files being created all over the place - they are assuming that users will be running it from their own home directory. If you install it as a specific user, I seem to remember that it will install the binaries into the user's home directory, and only that particular user can run it. =20 Kludgy at best, but IMO it's still the best WYSIWYG worprocessor for Unix. Still waiting for KDE 2.0 to come out so I can try KOffice...=20 - M - On Thu, 6 Jul 2000, Heiko Recktenwald wrote: > Hi, its maybe a "question", and more a "question" than a "newbie > question", but I can put it as a "newbie observation", and as there are > so many very content users of this nearly perfect wordprocessor here: >=20 > When I open xwp (from the command line) from another directory than ~/, > it creates its .wpcr directory there. Wordperfect, is it so stupid or > did I just overlook something ? Is there any way to force it to find its > ~/.wprc ? >=20 > Never seen something like that. >=20 > And it looks as if each user has to register wp. Not the best way of > promotion... Corel Draw....which had a bad reputation, now I know why. >=20 > And another question, Windowsbashing: somebody sent me something from > Westlaw, some of his articles, three files, but it arrived as one big > "winmail.dat". What is this ? A progress in computer technology or the > contrary ? Rethorical question. Anyway, any way to decipher this ? > It was difficult enough to transfer those articles, so I dont want to > bother this windows person in California with this. >=20 > H. >=20 > PS, Dataminerbashing, it worked with bla@bla.bla, anyway: >=20 >=20 >=20 >

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>=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jul 6 8:53:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from shepherd.hurlburt.af.mil (shepherd.hurlburt.af.mil [151.166.15.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 011CB37BA6C for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 08:53:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Mark.Hummel@hurlburt.af.mil) Received: from shepherd.hurlburt.af.mil (root@localhost) by shepherd.hurlburt.af.mil with ESMTP id KAA04612; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:53:16 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark.Hummel@hurlburt.af.mil Received: from exwncc01.hurlburt.af.mil (exwncc01.hurlburt.af.mil [151.166.208.37]) by shepherd.hurlburt.af.mil with ESMTP id KAA04600; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:53:15 -0500 (CDT) Received: by exwncc01.hurlburt.af.mil with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id <3GPLNKGY>; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:53:18 -0500 Message-ID: <856532CB07BED3118FE300204840E28A011075C2@vexwncc02.hurlburt.af.mil> To: pineypl@bellsouth.net Cc: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Can't unmount my zip drive ??? Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:50:33 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Good questions Bob. Since I have an ata system, now supported in FBSD 4.0, this would be the command line syntax before I modified /etc/fstab: mount_msdos /dev/afd0s4 /zip As I understand "s4" denotes the entire disk just like "c" does for hard drives (it didn't mount at all without it). I also mount to /zip obviously. Here's the line in /etc/fstab for your review: /dev/afd0s4 msdos /zip noauto,r,w 0 0 I agree that once mounted, the OS should not allow the disk to eject, but I can. This makes me wonder if it mounted correctly in the first place, but I can perform any file operation I want to once mounted. Needless to say, it doesn't recognize it when I eject a disk and put another one in. Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Collins [SMTP:pineypl@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Wednesday, 05 July, 2000 1702 > To: Mark.Hummel@hurlburt.af.mil > Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Can't unmount my zip drive ??? > > Mark.Hummel@hurlburt.af.mil wrote: > > > > That's correct. I'm completely out of the mounted /zip directory when I > > attempt to umount the drive. > > > > Mark > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Yong Lim [SMTP:yong@csfi.com] > > > Sent: Wednesday, 05 July, 2000 1313 > > > To: Mark.Hummel@hurlburt.af.mil; newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > > > Subject: RE: Can't unmount my zip drive ??? > > > > > > When you try to umount, don't have root or anyone else stay in the > /zip > > > directory. Device busy usually mean someone is in the /zip directory. > > > > > > Yong > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of > > > Mark.Hummel@hurlburt.af.mil > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 2:05 PM > > > To: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > > > Subject: Can't unmount my zip drive ??? > > > > > > > > > I have an internal IDE 100MB Zip drive. I've updated /etc/fstab > correctly > > > because the drive mounts to /zip without a problem. The problem is > the > > > umount command fails. I get the error: device busy. I can also eject > the > > > disks anytime I want even when the drive is mounted. Any suggestions? > > Sounds strange. Are you mounting the drive with a filesystem such as : > mount -t msdos /dev/wfd0s4 /zip or mount_msdos /dev/wfd0s4 /zip > > I know on my system, once the zip is mounted it will NOT eject unless > it is unmounted. Who is mounting the disk, root or su? > > Bob > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jul 6 9:10: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D0C7B37B535 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 09:10:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from moritz.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p1.dialin.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.1]) by f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA218170; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 18:08:09 +0200 Received: from moritz (moritz [10.0.0.4]) by moritz.alleswirdgelber (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA00718; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:54:10 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 17:54:10 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@moritz.alleswirdgelber To: Marty Poulin Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Again Wordperfect.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Kludgy at best, but IMO it's still the best WYSIWYG worprocessor for Unix. Shure, I dont miss Word ;-) Installed as root, hmmm... H. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jul 6 10:25:42 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7035337B9F2 for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:25:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.69.47]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA4544; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:27:23 -0700 Message-ID: <3964C088.341E0A25@acuson.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 10:23:20 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Marty Poulin Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Again Wordperfect.. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Marty Poulin wrote: > Still waiting for KDE 2.0 to come out so I can try KOffice... You can try it right now! KDE 1.91 is now in ports. Parts of KDE are still pretty buggy, but most of KOffice is stablized enough to try it out. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jul 6 10:38:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6203A37BA8D for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:38:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.69.47]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA4CD2; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:39:57 -0700 Message-ID: <3964C37A.D326FEA4@acuson.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 10:35:54 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin =?iso-8859-1?Q?M=F6ller?= Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Installation question References: <001301bfe72e$7d365d90$0201a8c0@theol> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Martin Mller wrote: > At the moment, I don't have any FreeBSD installed on my machine. Now I've > read on www.freebsd.org, that one can install FBSD with a single bootdisk > over PPP. My problem is: I have a PCI ISDN card and as far as I can see, the > GENERIC kernel on the bootdisk does not support ISDN. I can't compile a new > KERNEL cause (s.o.) I don't have FBSD on my HD yet. Has anyone an idea how I > can solve that problem? You could ftp all the files over to a FAT directory and install from the harddrive. This would of course necessitate an extra partition and sufficient room. If all else fails, purchase a cheap CD from a reseller or get a friend with a fast internet connection and a CD writer. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Jul 6 10:40:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CAA237BA8D for ; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:40:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.69.47]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA4ECE; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 10:42:43 -0700 Message-ID: <3964C41F.F9ACE710@acuson.com> Date: Thu, 06 Jul 2000 10:38:39 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Heiko Recktenwald Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Again Wordperfect.. References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Heiko Recktenwald wrote: > When I open xwp (from the command line) from another directory than ~/, > it creates its .wpcr directory there. Wordperfect, is it so stupid or > did I just overlook something ? Is there any way to force it to find its > ~/.wprc ? You could create a script that cd's to the user's directory and then runs xwp from there. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jul 7 0: 9: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from cookie.covalent.net (ppp-54-213.29-151.libero.it [151.29.213.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B855337BDB1; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 00:08:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dirkx@covalent.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cookie.covalent.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA09230; Thu, 6 Jul 2000 18:46:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dirkx@covalent.net) Date: Thu, 6 Jul 2000 18:46:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Dirk-Willem van Gulik X-Sender: dirkx@matilde.sfo.covalent.net To: chat room Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Distress using FreeBSD on Notebook In-Reply-To: <381025744.961829833406.JavaMail.root@web302-mc.mail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 24 Jun 2000, chat room wrote: > Anyone using Notebook, Please attach all the conf files or provide me > with some info of how to configure the pcmcia and PPP. Well.. for a starter.. there is not much information here for us to go on; apart from that it aint work. Step 1 -> test if the card is recognized and there. boot the machine, log in as root; type 'pccardd', wait 5 seconds, plug in the card and send us the output of 'dmesg' approx 10 seconds after you plugged in the card. The last few lines should say something like sio1 at port XXXX... sio4: type 16550A Step 2 -> test the modem if the above is 'sio5' then check that there is a /dev/cuaa5 with cd /dev ls cuaa* If it is not there, make one sh MAKEDEV cuaa5 Then edit /etc/remote and add a line modem:dv=/dev/cuaa5:br#9600:pa=none: Then do man tip read up on how to exit ! and try tip modem and then do AT the modem should respond with OK Then you can try things like 'ATDT123' to get confidence that the modem is fine. Then follow the 'userland PPP' section in the handbook from here. If this fails.. preserve or mail us the _output_ of what goes wrong so we can see what the problem is :-) :-) Dw To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jul 7 3:14:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from fe170.worldonline.dk (fe170.worldonline.dk [212.54.64.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9E74837BA08 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 03:14:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rpert@image.dk) Received: (qmail 19919 invoked by uid 0); 7 Jul 2000 10:14:17 -0000 Received: from 108.ppp1-13.worldonline.dk (HELO trocktonlycvvm) (212.54.71.236) by fe170.worldonline.dk with SMTP; 7 Jul 2000 10:14:17 -0000 From: "Raymond Pert" To: Subject: Trouble with FTP (can't find modem) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:08:17 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm a real newbie to UNIX. I have sucessfully made two floppies kern.flp and mfsroot.flp. The process works fine. I get to my PPP session and my machine won't talk to my modem. I have an internal 56K and an external ISDN modem. I am in Europe. Would someone please tell me where to look for the answer? Please? Thanx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jul 7 5:57:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sunburst.csfi.com (sunburst.csfi.com [204.1.38.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B26F237BB15 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 05:57:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yong@csfi.com) Received: from yongdell (pc_yong [204.1.38.26]) by sunburst.csfi.com (8.8.2/8.8.2) with SMTP id IAA28925; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 08:55:55 -0400 (EDT) From: "Yong Lim" To: , Cc: Subject: RE: Can't unmount my zip drive ??? Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 08:56:19 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <856532CB07BED3118FE300204840E28A011075C2@vexwncc02.hurlburt.af.mil> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mark, Someone just wrote a great article on 'Mounting Other Filesystems' here: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/a/bsd/2000/07/05/FreeBSD_Basics.html Very good site... By the way, is it okay to have a comma between your r and w? Most of the examples I have seen has those two characters together. Yong -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mark.Hummel@hurlburt.af.mil Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2000 11:51 AM To: pineypl@bellsouth.net Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Can't unmount my zip drive ??? Good questions Bob. Since I have an ata system, now supported in FBSD 4.0, this would be the command line syntax before I modified /etc/fstab: mount_msdos /dev/afd0s4 /zip As I understand "s4" denotes the entire disk just like "c" does for hard drives (it didn't mount at all without it). I also mount to /zip obviously. Here's the line in /etc/fstab for your review: /dev/afd0s4 msdos /zip noauto,r,w 0 0 I agree that once mounted, the OS should not allow the disk to eject, but I can. This makes me wonder if it mounted correctly in the first place, but I can perform any file operation I want to once mounted. Needless to say, it doesn't recognize it when I eject a disk and put another one in. Mark > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Collins [SMTP:pineypl@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Wednesday, 05 July, 2000 1702 > To: Mark.Hummel@hurlburt.af.mil > Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Can't unmount my zip drive ??? > > Mark.Hummel@hurlburt.af.mil wrote: > > > > That's correct. I'm completely out of the mounted /zip directory when I > > attempt to umount the drive. > > > > Mark > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Yong Lim [SMTP:yong@csfi.com] > > > Sent: Wednesday, 05 July, 2000 1313 > > > To: Mark.Hummel@hurlburt.af.mil; newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > > > Subject: RE: Can't unmount my zip drive ??? > > > > > > When you try to umount, don't have root or anyone else stay in the > /zip > > > directory. Device busy usually mean someone is in the /zip directory. > > > > > > Yong > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of > > > Mark.Hummel@hurlburt.af.mil > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2000 2:05 PM > > > To: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > > > Subject: Can't unmount my zip drive ??? > > > > > > > > > I have an internal IDE 100MB Zip drive. I've updated /etc/fstab > correctly > > > because the drive mounts to /zip without a problem. The problem is > the > > > umount command fails. I get the error: device busy. I can also eject > the > > > disks anytime I want even when the drive is mounted. Any suggestions? > > Sounds strange. Are you mounting the drive with a filesystem such as : > mount -t msdos /dev/wfd0s4 /zip or mount_msdos /dev/wfd0s4 /zip > > I know on my system, once the zip is mounted it will NOT eject unless > it is unmounted. Who is mounting the disk, root or su? > > Bob > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jul 7 7:57:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2B2437C5E3 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 07:57:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from goldtech@worldpost.com) Received: from 216-164-220-170.s170.tnt5.nyw.ny.dialup.rcn.com ([216.164.220.170] helo=beefstew) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 13AZZP-0002Tv-00 for newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:57:35 -0400 Message-ID: <000901bfe823$c42f5940$aadca4d8@beefstew> From: "leegold" To: Subject: no ans. so far to my tech ques.- what next? Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 10:58:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have been posting an error message I am getting w/my xcdplayer. But, after a couple of days, it seems that no one knows the answer. I posted to all the mail lists and the newsgroup too. I sent a email to the port's maintainer at FreeBSD - no reply yet. So, what do you think I should should do? Should I try emailing the developer's group? Is there someone else at FreeBSD.org I can email? Maybe, Should I wait another week? Any suggesttions appreciated. Thanks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jul 7 9:28:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08AFA37BD45 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 09:28:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from goldtech@worldpost.com) Received: from 209-122-224-242.s496.tnt3.nyw.ny.dialup.rcn.com ([209.122.224.242] helo=beefstew) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 13Aazd-0002FD-00; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:28:46 -0400 Message-ID: <000601bfe830$80ce9640$f2e07ad1@beefstew> From: "leegold" To: "Art & Connie Brown" Cc: References: <000901bfe823$c42f5940$aadca4d8@beefstew> <003f01bfe82f$5f957300$2cdbd4d1@viper> Subject: Re: no ans. so far to my tech ques.- what next? Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:29:19 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have posted to all mailists and the newsgroup and I have emailed the port maintainer - as i stated originally. ----- Original Message ----- From: Art & Connie Brown To: leegold Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 12:21 PM Subject: Re: no ans. so far to my tech ques.- what next? > Dear Lee: > > I am a newby also. I don't have an answer to your question. However, I > don't think you will get one in the newbies section. You should subscribe > to: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Ask your question to these people. I'll > bet you get an answer soon. I don't think anyone pays any attention to the > newby section. > > Art > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: leegold > To: > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 9:58 AM > Subject: no ans. so far to my tech ques.- what next? > > > > I have been posting an error message I am getting w/my xcdplayer. > > But, after a couple of days, it seems that no one knows the answer. > > I posted to all the mail lists and the newsgroup too. > > I sent a email to the port's maintainer at FreeBSD - no reply yet. > > > > So, what do you think I should should do? Should I try emailing the > > developer's group? Is there someone else at FreeBSD.org I can email? > > Maybe, Should I wait another week? > > > > Any suggesttions appreciated. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jul 7 12: 2:24 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hawaii.rr.com (hnlmail1.hawaii.rr.com [24.25.227.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9345A37BF70; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:02:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tomokolove@anet.ne.jp) Received: from localhost ([204.210.118.42]) by hawaii.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.447.44); Fri, 7 Jul 2000 08:05:37 -1000 X-Sender: tomokolove@anet.ne.jp From: Tomoko To: "love" Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 08:03:34 -1000 Subject: 私は、元気だよ〜 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=euc-jp Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <0af323705180770HNLMAIL1@hawaii.rr.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 返信ありがとう！ 私は、元気だよ〜。 教えてくれたサイト、とってもＨだった。 しっかり、見てしまった・・・恥ずかしい〜。 私が見つけたサイトも、もう、ひとつ教えてあげるね。 けっこう、Ｈだよん 疲れれた時にでも、暇つぶしに見てみてね。 http://www.e-sexcity.com/ それじゃ、がんばってね。 またね。 ばいばい ともこちゃんより。 Love To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jul 7 12:48:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.liberate.com (pix207.liberate.com [216.221.224.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A27037BE85 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:48:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from asuchy@liberate.com) Received: from liberate.com (yyy87.liberate.com [172.18.12.87]) by smtp.liberate.com (8.8.4/8.8.4) with ESMTP id MAA19413 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 12:44:47 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3966372D.B497AEC4@liberate.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 13:01:49 -0700 From: Andrew Suchy Organization: Liberate Technologies X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Help with OpenSSL problems Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If anyone can help with this, I would really appreciate it. I am trying to install the Cyrus IMAP port on release 4.0, and it requires OpenSSL. Now, I managed to download it and install it (though the Handbook was a little vague about how to do this, except to use CVSup - which did not work for me), but the Cyrus port is still unaware that it is installed. When I do a "pkg_info", openSSL is not listed as a package - and that's cause it probably isn't, it's an add-on of sorts. What am I doing wrong? Andrew Suchy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jul 7 16:44:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from imo-d04.mx.aol.com (imo-d04.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC3F937B55E for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 16:44:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from H2a0cK0e0r0@aol.com) Received: from H2a0cK0e0r0@aol.com by imo-d04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v27.12.) id n.9b.767a4f3 (2619) for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:44:25 -0400 (EDT) From: H2a0cK0e0r0@aol.com Message-ID: <9b.767a4f3.2697c559@aol.com> Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:44:25 EDT Subject: hey i need help!! To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 110 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i installed freebsd on my comp and tried installing the gnome thing,but i got this message after installing the gnome,and typing startx after the myname# part,this is what i got: execve failed for /usr/X11R6/bin/X (errno 2) _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect : Can't connect : errno = 2 _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect : Can't connect : errno = 2 _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect : Can't connect : errno = 2 _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect : Can't connect : errno = 2 _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect : Can't connect : errno = 2 _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect : Can't connect : errno = 2 giving up. xinit : No such file or directory (erno 2) : unable to connect to X server xinit : No such process (errno 3) : Server error. myname# can you guys please tell me what i have to do and/or install to get this working and to be able to run it in a gnome thing please?i am farely new to this,so please have patience,thnx! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jul 7 17:53:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59A7B37B6A2 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 17:53:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.69.47]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA653A; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 17:55:09 -0700 Message-ID: <39667AF8.FA071555@acuson.com> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 17:51:04 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: H2a0cK0e0r0@aol.com Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hey i need help!! References: <9b.767a4f3.2697c559@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org H2a0cK0e0r0@aol.com wrote: > > i installed freebsd on my comp and tried installing the gnome thing,but i got > this message after installing the gnome,and typing startx after the myname# > part,this is what i got: ...[snip]... > can you guys please tell me what i have to do and/or install to get > this working and to be able to run it in a gnome thing please?i am farely new > to this,so please have patience,thnx! It appears that X is not set up correctly. This is not a Gnome thing. Make sure that you have installed the X servers appropriate for your hardware, and run an X setup program, such as XF86Setup or xf86config. Let's get twm working before we start worrying about Gnome :-) David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jul 7 19:25:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC7637B574 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 19:25:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sue@phoenix.welearn.com.au) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA58630 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 12:30:08 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 12:30:08 +1000 (EST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200007080230.MAA58630@phoenix.welearn.com.au> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jul 7 20:21:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from prserv.net (out2.prserv.net [32.97.166.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1565837B6B2 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 20:21:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mick3@ibm.net) Received: from ibm.net ([166.72.155.76]) by prserv.net (out2) with SMTP id <2000070803205522901ik8mie>; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 03:20:55 +0000 Message-ID: <39669E59.1F488F2B@ibm.net> Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2000 20:22:01 -0700 From: John Michelini X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Seeking Mutt/Sendmail documentation Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------CA9D92999F7484683FF8A629" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------CA9D92999F7484683FF8A629 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there, I am a little confused about how to configure E-mail for BSD 3.2. IBM is my ISP, and I have read a great deal about mutt and sendmail; I guess sendmail is the engine to the mutt interface--the two work together. I would like to find more detailed info on how to get this functioning. My sources are Unix Power Tools and The Complete FreeBSD (3rd Edition), but I still feel a little clueless about how to configure mail. Is mutt and sendmail the way to go? Pine instead? Hmmm.... For additional documentation, can anyone show me the way? (as Frampton would say) John --------------CA9D92999F7484683FF8A629 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi there,

I am a little confused about how to configure E-mail for BSD 3.2.  IBM is my ISP, and I have read a great deal about mutt and sendmail; I guess sendmail is the engine to the mutt interface--the two work together.  I would like to find more detailed info on how to get this functioning.  My sources are Unix Power Tools and The Complete FreeBSD (3rd Edition), but I still feel a little clueless about how to configure mail.  Is mutt and sendmail the way to go?  Pine instead?  Hmmm....

For additional documentation, can anyone show me the way? (as Frampton would say)

John --------------CA9D92999F7484683FF8A629-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Jul 7 23:17:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7131E37BC97 for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 23:17:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from moritz.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p162.dialin.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.162]) by f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA206582; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 08:15:39 +0200 Received: from moritz (moritz [10.0.0.4]) by moritz.alleswirdgelber (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA00496; Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:26:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Fri, 7 Jul 2000 21:26:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@moritz.alleswirdgelber To: leegold Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: no ans. so far to my tech ques.- what next? In-Reply-To: <000901bfe823$c42f5940$aadca4d8@beefstew> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Arent there many other cdplayers ? Many ways lead to Rome.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jul 8 1:16:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from cepheus.azstarnet.com (cepheus.azstarnet.com [169.197.56.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF3C37B66D for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 01:16:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sbcorey@azstarnet.com) Received: from azstarnet.com (sbcorey@dialup18ip069.tus.azstarnet.com [169.197.38.197]) by cepheus.azstarnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA18423; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 01:16:08 -0700 (MST) X-Sent-via: StarNet http://www.azstarnet.com/ Message-ID: <3966E347.FAB9F4F7@azstarnet.com> Date: Sat, 08 Jul 2000 01:16:07 -0700 From: S B COREY X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.16 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: John Michelini Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Seeking Mutt/Sendmail documentation References: <39669E59.1F488F2B@ibm.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org For mutt documentation try: http://www.mutt.org For sendmail documentation try: http://www.sendmail.org Now for configuration of sendmail for freebsd try: http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/admin.html#UUCPMAIL Scott John Michelini wrote: > Hi there, > > I am a little confused about how to configure E-mail for BSD 3.2. IBM > is my ISP, and I have read a great deal about mutt and sendmail; I > guess sendmail is the engine to the mutt interface--the two work > together. I would like to find more detailed info on how to get this > functioning. My sources are Unix Power Tools and The Complete FreeBSD > (3rd Edition), but I still feel a little clueless about how to > configure mail. Is mutt and sendmail the way to go? Pine instead? > Hmmm.... > > For additional documentation, can anyone show me the way? (as Frampton > would say) > > John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jul 8 9:20:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AF1537BF28 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 09:20:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from goldtech@worldpost.com) Received: from 216-164-221-118.s118.tnt4.nyw.ny.dialup.rcn.com ([216.164.221.118] helo=beefstew) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 13AxL8-00018a-00; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 12:20:27 -0400 Message-ID: <000b01bfe8f8$80f1ffe0$76dda4d8@beefstew> From: "leegold" To: "Heiko Recktenwald" Cc: References: Subject: Re: no ans. so far to my tech ques.- what next? Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 12:20:59 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yeah. I'm going to try to contact the FreeBSD support person for xcdplayer one more time. Then maybe I'll try to submit my problem as a bug-report. If no luck after that, I'll try another player. I tried net and open bsd newsgroups too - hoping the different flavors are close enough - maybe I'd get a break, but no luck there. I may even broach the question to a Linux - nah - that might be going to far - maybe I am getting obcessive about the error message I'm getting. Someone told me to throw out the error message I get into /dev/null...I'll probably try another player. ----- Original Message ----- From: Heiko Recktenwald To: leegold Cc: Sent: Friday, July 07, 2000 3:26 PM Subject: Re: no ans. so far to my tech ques.- what next? > Arent there many other cdplayers ? Many ways lead to Rome.. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jul 8 13:56:15 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.remotetech.net (c283817-a.btnrug1.la.home.com [24.4.41.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 355F737BD33 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 13:56:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mcthomas@mail.com) Received: (qmail 5134 invoked by uid 7791); 8 Jul 2000 20:46:59 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO MCT450) (10.1.0.51) by ns1.remotetech.net with SMTP; 8 Jul 2000 20:46:59 -0000 Reply-To: From: "Mark Thomas" To: Subject: info Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 14:52:37 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jul 8 16:22: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FEEB37B64B for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 16:22:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from goldtech@worldpost.com) Received: from 209-122-227-57.s57.tnt2.nyw.ny.dialup.rcn.com ([209.122.227.57] helo=beefstew) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 2.12 #3) id 13B3v5-0005yv-00 for newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 19:21:59 -0400 Message-ID: <001001bfe933$63e66270$39e37ad1@beefstew> From: "leegold" Cc: References: Subject: what's best/simplest cdplayer Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 19:22:30 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm about ready to try another cdplayer - I'm not to hot on xcdplayer - but other than that I would appreciated any suggestions on simple, WELL SUPPORTED music cdplayers that work. Thanks ps. what's up w/ cdplay? isn't that text based? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Jul 8 20:36:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7985D37B9B5 for ; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 20:36:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from moritz.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p202.dialin.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.202]) by f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA387446; Sun, 9 Jul 2000 05:34:43 +0200 Received: from moritz (moritz [10.0.0.4]) by moritz.alleswirdgelber (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA01116; Sat, 8 Jul 2000 22:09:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Sat, 8 Jul 2000 22:09:36 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@moritz.alleswirdgelber To: leegold Cc: newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: no ans. so far to my tech ques.- what next? In-Reply-To: <000b01bfe8f8$80f1ffe0$76dda4d8@beefstew> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Someone told me to throw out the error message I get into /dev/null...I'll > probably try another player. I would try cdcontrol. Allready on your system. It mustnt be X. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message