From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 13 0:29:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A558A37B7BF for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 00:29:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from goldtech@worldpost.com) Received: from 209-122-237-13.s521.tnt1.nyw.ny.dialup.rcn.com ([209.122.237.13] helo=beefstew) by smtp03.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.15 #2) id 13NsCf-00004R-00 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 03:29:06 -0400 Message-ID: <001901c004f8$3628fbf0$0ded7ad1@beefstew> From: "leegold" To: Subject: Re: classic newbie inquiry Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 03:29:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How the hell am I gonna learn how to set up a web server? just learning how to install FreeBSD was relatively difficult. But searching the web for basic info on how to set up a web server turned up nothing. I'm going to call walnut creek and see if there's reasonably priced support and ask all the stupid questions I need to, too. I feel stupid. If I do one small procedural thing/day towards implementing the server that will keep the questions tightly focused - I'll try that. it will probably take a long time. I eyed a SCO package at the bookstore w/Netscape server - a neat bundle, but I want FBSD and Apache. ----- Original Message ----- From: "leegold" To: "Doug Young" Cc: Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 2:58 PM Subject: Re: classic newbie inquiry > So this it's a major undertaking explaining this? I would imagine so. > But it's really where FreeBSD shines as i understand it. It would be > glorious, nifty, cool to have a step-by-step explanation of the > procedure. When you have the time and feel like demystifying the web > server setup. I'll go at it like a big dog. > > I'd do a fresh FreeBSD install w/out X - that's for sure. I have never > downloaded source and compiled to get a port/app. I've always tried to > get the binaries. There's alot of stuff that would have to be covered. > > And now for questions that show my partial ( total ? ) ignorance: > > What is the purpose of Apache? > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Young" > To: "leegold" > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 1:13 AM > Subject: Re: classic newbie inquiry > > > > Ahhhhhhhhhh yes ..... the dreaded getty & apache strike again > !!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > Both those really need a better (as in "more explicit") explanation > than > > whats > > presently available, & are high on the list of stuff for the next > version of > > Pedantic FreeBSD. The "man ppp" isn't anywhere near as bad as the > apache > > stuff generally though, thanks to Brian Somers ... he has been > extremely > > helpful whenever I've > > had problems comprehending any user-ppp issues. Basically what I've > been > > doing > > for the dialin setup is creating the ppplogin file, then setting > ppplogin as > > the login > > shell for dialin users, basically as the "Method 1" in man ppp > explains. I > > HATE that poxridden "vi" monstrosity though, so to make life easier > when I > > run "vipw" to edit > > the master password file, I first set the default editor to "ee" by > using > > "setenv > > EDITOR ee". That doesn't "stick", so it needs to be re-set every time > you > > use > > "vipw". > > > > Avoid the /sysinstall version of mgetty at all costs ... its TOTALLY > broken > > !!! > > As far as I can tell the only possible way to getmgetty working is by > > compiling from source, and thats another challenge given that the info > > provided isn't as helpful as it could be ..... my advice for what its > worth > > is to stick with the man ppp / getty / method . > > > > Now for apache ...... it probably wins the prize for the most poorly > > documented application ever. There is virtually no attempt at > explanation > > anywhere for basic apache setup .... the apache homepage isutterly > useless, > > likewise the various man ages. Thankfully I've always got it running > in > > basic form (ie without php etc) straight from sysinstall. The main > problem > > I've struck is with inability to find the pages I've put in the proper > > location (at least "proper" according to pppd.conf). I now know that > was > > because of some symbolic links which I inadvertently broke whilst > copying > > pages into the default location. I haven't messed around with this > stuff for > > a while, but I recall reading about many others having similar > problems as I > > did with "page not found" type errors, and invariably the cause was > the > > broken links. As I recall, the guts of the issue is that the pages > aren't > > where they are supposed to be according to pppd.conf ..... they are > > somewhere weird with (hopefully) a link between where pppd.conf thinks > they > > are & where they REALLY are !!! If you don't know exactly what you are > on > > about when you start replacing the dummy page with your own content > you > > could easily end up with the same problem, so be VERY careful here :) > Other > > than that its fairly straightforward until you get into linking apache > with > > a database ... the apparent favourite method (PHP) is another > contender for > > the worst documentation on the planet .... I'm getting infinitely > better > > results with solutions like CGI / C++ / Java ... at least there's > a > > bunch of decent docs for those. > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "leegold" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 10:39 AM > > Subject: classic newbie inquiry > > > > > > > could anyone direct me to very basic how-to's on stting up FreeBSD > to > > > answer the phone and being an internet server. I have never done > this I > > > admit - and want to learn how. Maybe just put a few html pages on it > to > > > start. > > > > > > Where do i start?, what links would explain on basic level? > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 13 1:18:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from dt052n3e.san.rr.com (dt051n1f.san.rr.com [204.210.32.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32AF037BC74 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 01:18:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Received: from gorean.org (master [10.0.0.2]) by dt052n3e.san.rr.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA03999; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 01:18:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@gorean.org) Message-ID: <399659D8.44C962DB@gorean.org> Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 01:18:32 -0700 From: Doug Barton Organization: Triborough Bridge & Tunnel Authority X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: leegold Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: classic newbie inquiry References: <001901c004f8$3628fbf0$0ded7ad1@beefstew> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org leegold wrote: > > How the hell am I gonna learn how to set up a web server? just learning > how to install FreeBSD was relatively difficult. But searching the web > for basic info on how to set up a web server turned up nothing. I'm > going to call walnut creek and see if there's reasonably priced support > and ask all the stupid questions I need to, too. The O'Reilly book on apache isn't bad, and there are resources at apache.org. Learning how to do system administration is a long term goal. Don't expect to learn it all at once. Good luck, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 13 3:50:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from goblin.apana.org.au (goblin.apana.org.au [203.3.126.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 177E137B732 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 03:50:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by goblin.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id UAA06482; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 20:50:38 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from roadrunner.apana.org.au(203.3.126.132), claiming to be "ROADRUNNER" via SMTP by goblin.apana.org.au, id smtpdpu6480; Sun Aug 13 20:50:27 2000 Message-ID: <088701c00514$f4724c30$847e03cb@ROADRUNNER> From: "Doug Young" To: "leegold" , References: <001901c004f8$3628fbf0$0ded7ad1@beefstew> Subject: Re: classic newbie inquiry Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 20:55:08 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The textbook answer to that is "SCO is a commercial thing, hence there's a budget for documentation, whereas FreeBSD is open source so users are expected to fend for themselves". All that aside, SCO documentation is among the best on the planet .... virtually everything is explained well & the GUI's sure make things a lot easier than the poking around in the dark required by CLI. From my experience FreeBSD webservers are certainly reliable once you've got the things running, its the "getting it running" thats another story. If you can wait a week I'll hopefully have some "step by step" instructions online. ----- Original Message ----- From: "leegold" To: Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 5:29 PM Subject: Re: classic newbie inquiry > How the hell am I gonna learn how to set up a web server? just learning > how to install FreeBSD was relatively difficult. But searching the web > for basic info on how to set up a web server turned up nothing. I'm > going to call walnut creek and see if there's reasonably priced support > and ask all the stupid questions I need to, too. > > I feel stupid. If I do one small procedural thing/day towards > implementing the server that will keep the questions tightly focused - > I'll try that. it will probably take a long time. I eyed a SCO package > at the bookstore w/Netscape server - a neat bundle, but I want FBSD and > Apache. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "leegold" > To: "Doug Young" > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 2:58 PM > Subject: Re: classic newbie inquiry > > > > So this it's a major undertaking explaining this? I would imagine so. > > But it's really where FreeBSD shines as i understand it. It would be > > glorious, nifty, cool to have a step-by-step explanation of the > > procedure. When you have the time and feel like demystifying the web > > server setup. I'll go at it like a big dog. > > > > I'd do a fresh FreeBSD install w/out X - that's for sure. I have never > > downloaded source and compiled to get a port/app. I've always tried to > > get the binaries. There's alot of stuff that would have to be covered. > > > > And now for questions that show my partial ( total ? ) ignorance: > > > > What is the purpose of Apache? > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Doug Young" > > To: "leegold" > > Cc: > > Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 1:13 AM > > Subject: Re: classic newbie inquiry > > > > > > > Ahhhhhhhhhh yes ..... the dreaded getty & apache strike again > > !!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > Both those really need a better (as in "more explicit") explanation > > than > > > whats > > > presently available, & are high on the list of stuff for the next > > version of > > > Pedantic FreeBSD. The "man ppp" isn't anywhere near as bad as the > > apache > > > stuff generally though, thanks to Brian Somers ... he has been > > extremely > > > helpful whenever I've > > > had problems comprehending any user-ppp issues. Basically what I've > > been > > > doing > > > for the dialin setup is creating the ppplogin file, then setting > > ppplogin as > > > the login > > > shell for dialin users, basically as the "Method 1" in man ppp > > explains. I > > > HATE that poxridden "vi" monstrosity though, so to make life easier > > when I > > > run "vipw" to edit > > > the master password file, I first set the default editor to "ee" by > > using > > > "setenv > > > EDITOR ee". That doesn't "stick", so it needs to be re-set every > time > > you > > > use > > > "vipw". > > > > > > Avoid the /sysinstall version of mgetty at all costs ... its TOTALLY > > broken > > > !!! > > > As far as I can tell the only possible way to getmgetty working is > by > > > compiling from source, and thats another challenge given that the > info > > > provided isn't as helpful as it could be ..... my advice for what > its > > worth > > > is to stick with the man ppp / getty / method . > > > > > > Now for apache ...... it probably wins the prize for the most poorly > > > documented application ever. There is virtually no attempt at > > explanation > > > anywhere for basic apache setup .... the apache homepage isutterly > > useless, > > > likewise the various man ages. Thankfully I've always got it > running > > in > > > basic form (ie without php etc) straight from sysinstall. The main > > problem > > > I've struck is with inability to find the pages I've put in the > proper > > > location (at least "proper" according to pppd.conf). I now know that > > was > > > because of some symbolic links which I inadvertently broke whilst > > copying > > > pages into the default location. I haven't messed around with this > > stuff for > > > a while, but I recall reading about many others having similar > > problems as I > > > did with "page not found" type errors, and invariably the cause was > > the > > > broken links. As I recall, the guts of the issue is that the pages > > aren't > > > where they are supposed to be according to pppd.conf ..... they are > > > somewhere weird with (hopefully) a link between where pppd.conf > thinks > > they > > > are & where they REALLY are !!! If you don't know exactly what you > are > > on > > > about when you start replacing the dummy page with your own content > > you > > > could easily end up with the same problem, so be VERY careful here > :) > > Other > > > than that its fairly straightforward until you get into linking > apache > > with > > > a database ... the apparent favourite method (PHP) is another > > contender for > > > the worst documentation on the planet .... I'm getting infinitely > > better > > > results with solutions like CGI / C++ / Java ... at least > there's > > a > > > bunch of decent docs for those. > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "leegold" > > > To: > > > Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 10:39 AM > > > Subject: classic newbie inquiry > > > > > > > > > > could anyone direct me to very basic how-to's on stting up FreeBSD > > to > > > > answer the phone and being an internet server. I have never done > > this I > > > > admit - and want to learn how. Maybe just put a few html pages on > it > > to > > > > start. > > > > > > > > Where do i start?, what links would explain on basic level? > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 13 9: 9:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 817AF37B8A3 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 09:09:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from goldtech@worldpost.com) Received: from 209-122-224-78.s332.tnt3.nyw.ny.dialup.rcn.com ([209.122.224.78] helo=beefstew) by smtp01.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.15 #2) id 13O0Jz-0001GX-00; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 12:09:11 -0400 Message-ID: <000401c00540$df6025c0$4ee07ad1@beefstew> From: "leegold" To: "Doug Young" Cc: References: <001901c004f8$3628fbf0$0ded7ad1@beefstew> <088701c00514$f4724c30$847e03cb@ROADRUNNER> Subject: Re: classic newbie inquiry Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 12:09:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Meantime I'll Buy the Oreilly Apache book. I have a tendency to buy every book in the universe on a particular subject/project I get into. I'll watch your site for the updates. Try to get the "big picture". Thanks ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Young" To: "leegold" ; Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 6:55 AM Subject: Re: classic newbie inquiry > The textbook answer to that is "SCO is a commercial thing, hence there's a > budget for documentation, whereas FreeBSD is open source so users are > expected to fend for themselves". All that aside, SCO documentation is among > the best on the planet .... virtually everything is explained well & the > GUI's sure make things a lot easier than the poking around in the dark > required by CLI. > > From my experience FreeBSD webservers are certainly reliable once you've got > the things running, its the "getting it running" thats another story. If you > can wait a week I'll hopefully have some "step by step" instructions online. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "leegold" > To: > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 5:29 PM > Subject: Re: classic newbie inquiry > > > > How the hell am I gonna learn how to set up a web server? just learning > > how to install FreeBSD was relatively difficult. But searching the web > > for basic info on how to set up a web server turned up nothing. I'm > > going to call walnut creek and see if there's reasonably priced support > > and ask all the stupid questions I need to, too. > > > > I feel stupid. If I do one small procedural thing/day towards > > implementing the server that will keep the questions tightly focused - > > I'll try that. it will probably take a long time. I eyed a SCO package > > at the bookstore w/Netscape server - a neat bundle, but I want FBSD and > > Apache. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "leegold" > > To: "Doug Young" > > Cc: > > Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 2:58 PM > > Subject: Re: classic newbie inquiry > > > > > > > So this it's a major undertaking explaining this? I would imagine so. > > > But it's really where FreeBSD shines as i understand it. It would be > > > glorious, nifty, cool to have a step-by-step explanation of the > > > procedure. When you have the time and feel like demystifying the web > > > server setup. I'll go at it like a big dog. > > > > > > I'd do a fresh FreeBSD install w/out X - that's for sure. I have never > > > downloaded source and compiled to get a port/app. I've always tried to > > > get the binaries. There's alot of stuff that would have to be covered. > > > > > > And now for questions that show my partial ( total ? ) ignorance: > > > > > > What is the purpose of Apache? > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Doug Young" > > > To: "leegold" > > > Cc: > > > Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 1:13 AM > > > Subject: Re: classic newbie inquiry > > > > > > > > > > Ahhhhhhhhhh yes ..... the dreaded getty & apache strike again > > > !!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > > > Both those really need a better (as in "more explicit") explanation > > > than > > > > whats > > > > presently available, & are high on the list of stuff for the next > > > version of > > > > Pedantic FreeBSD. The "man ppp" isn't anywhere near as bad as the > > > apache > > > > stuff generally though, thanks to Brian Somers ... he has been > > > extremely > > > > helpful whenever I've > > > > had problems comprehending any user-ppp issues. Basically what I've > > > been > > > > doing > > > > for the dialin setup is creating the ppplogin file, then setting > > > ppplogin as > > > > the login > > > > shell for dialin users, basically as the "Method 1" in man ppp > > > explains. I > > > > HATE that poxridden "vi" monstrosity though, so to make life easier > > > when I > > > > run "vipw" to edit > > > > the master password file, I first set the default editor to "ee" by > > > using > > > > "setenv > > > > EDITOR ee". That doesn't "stick", so it needs to be re-set every > > time > > > you > > > > use > > > > "vipw". > > > > > > > > Avoid the /sysinstall version of mgetty at all costs ... its TOTALLY > > > broken > > > > !!! > > > > As far as I can tell the only possible way to getmgetty working is > > by > > > > compiling from source, and thats another challenge given that the > > info > > > > provided isn't as helpful as it could be ..... my advice for what > > its > > > worth > > > > is to stick with the man ppp / getty / method . > > > > > > > > Now for apache ...... it probably wins the prize for the most poorly > > > > documented application ever. There is virtually no attempt at > > > explanation > > > > anywhere for basic apache setup .... the apache homepage isutterly > > > useless, > > > > likewise the various man ages. Thankfully I've always got it > > running > > > in > > > > basic form (ie without php etc) straight from sysinstall. The main > > > problem > > > > I've struck is with inability to find the pages I've put in the > > proper > > > > location (at least "proper" according to pppd.conf). I now know that > > > was > > > > because of some symbolic links which I inadvertently broke whilst > > > copying > > > > pages into the default location. I haven't messed around with this > > > stuff for > > > > a while, but I recall reading about many others having similar > > > problems as I > > > > did with "page not found" type errors, and invariably the cause was > > > the > > > > broken links. As I recall, the guts of the issue is that the pages > > > aren't > > > > where they are supposed to be according to pppd.conf ..... they are > > > > somewhere weird with (hopefully) a link between where pppd.conf > > thinks > > > they > > > > are & where they REALLY are !!! If you don't know exactly what you > > are > > > on > > > > about when you start replacing the dummy page with your own content > > > you > > > > could easily end up with the same problem, so be VERY careful here > > :) > > > Other > > > > than that its fairly straightforward until you get into linking > > apache > > > with > > > > a database ... the apparent favourite method (PHP) is another > > > contender for > > > > the worst documentation on the planet .... I'm getting infinitely > > > better > > > > results with solutions like CGI / C++ / Java ... at least > > there's > > > a > > > > bunch of decent docs for those. > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "leegold" > > > > To: > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 10:39 AM > > > > Subject: classic newbie inquiry > > > > > > > > > > > > > could anyone direct me to very basic how-to's on stting up FreeBSD > > > to > > > > > answer the phone and being an internet server. I have never done > > > this I > > > > > admit - and want to learn how. Maybe just put a few html pages on > > it > > > to > > > > > start. > > > > > > > > > > Where do i start?, what links would explain on basic level? > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 13 10:22:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from shiva.art-service.net.ua (shiva.art-service.net.ua [194.44.107.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BE3F37B7E8 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 10:22:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from raccoon@shiva.art-service.net.ua) Received: (from raccoon@localhost) by shiva.art-service.net.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA41450 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 20:22:12 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from raccoon) Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 20:22:12 +0300 From: Vladimir Melnik To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Redirecting stdout Message-ID: <20000813202212.J13163@art-service.net.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i X-Homepage: http://raccoon.art-service.net.ua/ X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE Organisation: ISP "ART-service" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello. I have a question, which isn't related to FreeBSD only, but is related to bash or, maybe, some of other shells. When I'm trying to type something like that: $ sudo boo-boo-boo > /some/file and if I haven't permission to write /some/file, bash responds: "permission denied". I don't like to type `su` or `sudo bash`, but it seems to be only one method to do. :-( Can somebody advice me, can I do something else? -- V.Melnik To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 13 13:41:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.aracnet.com (mail2.aracnet.com [216.99.193.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 601BB37B62A for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 13:41:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hamellr@aracnet.com) Received: from shell1.aracnet.com (shell1.aracnet.com [216.99.193.21]) by mail2.aracnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11015; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 13:41:12 -0700 Received: by shell1.aracnet.com (8.9.3) id NAA00359; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 13:41:08 -0700 Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 13:41:08 -0700 (PDT) From: Rick Hamell To: leegold Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: classic newbie inquiry In-Reply-To: <001901c004f8$3628fbf0$0ded7ad1@beefstew> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I feel stupid. If I do one small procedural thing/day towards > implementing the server that will keep the questions tightly focused - > I'll try that. it will probably take a long time. I eyed a SCO package > at the bookstore w/Netscape server - a neat bundle, but I want FBSD and > Apache. Interesting... make install all clean in /usr/ports/www/apache(whatever) yeilded me a fully working web server in about 20 minutes. There are a few configuration things needed, but nothing big. Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 13 14:21: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from goblin.apana.org.au (goblin.apana.org.au [203.3.126.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B8B37B61E for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 14:20:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by goblin.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA07092; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 07:20:43 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from roadrunner.apana.org.au(203.3.126.132), claiming to be "ROADRUNNER" via SMTP by goblin.apana.org.au, id smtpdKH7090; Mon Aug 14 07:20:33 2000 Message-ID: <08de01c0056c$fb336470$847e03cb@ROADRUNNER> From: "Doug Young" To: "leegold" Cc: References: <001901c004f8$3628fbf0$0ded7ad1@beefstew> <088701c00514$f4724c30$847e03cb@ROADRUNNER> <000401c00540$df6025c0$4ee07ad1@beefstew> Subject: Re: classic newbie inquiry Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 07:25:07 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.5600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.5600 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've never looked at that particular one ..... generally O'Reilly books are OK although still lacking in the "step by step" approach .... however my Scottish ancestry tells me its not in good to keep spending the $100 a time for them :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "leegold" To: "Doug Young" Cc: Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 2:09 AM Subject: Re: classic newbie inquiry > Meantime I'll Buy the Oreilly Apache book. I have a tendency to buy > every book in the universe on a particular subject/project I get into. > I'll watch your site for the updates. Try to get the "big picture". > Thanks > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Doug Young" > To: "leegold" ; > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 6:55 AM > Subject: Re: classic newbie inquiry > > > > The textbook answer to that is "SCO is a commercial thing, hence > there's a > > budget for documentation, whereas FreeBSD is open source so users are > > expected to fend for themselves". All that aside, SCO documentation is > among > > the best on the planet .... virtually everything is explained well & > the > > GUI's sure make things a lot easier than the poking around in the > dark > > required by CLI. > > > > From my experience FreeBSD webservers are certainly reliable once > you've got > > the things running, its the "getting it running" thats another story. > If you > > can wait a week I'll hopefully have some "step by step" instructions > online. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "leegold" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2000 5:29 PM > > Subject: Re: classic newbie inquiry > > > > > > > How the hell am I gonna learn how to set up a web server? just > learning > > > how to install FreeBSD was relatively difficult. But searching the > web > > > for basic info on how to set up a web server turned up nothing. I'm > > > going to call walnut creek and see if there's reasonably priced > support > > > and ask all the stupid questions I need to, too. > > > > > > I feel stupid. If I do one small procedural thing/day towards > > > implementing the server that will keep the questions tightly > focused - > > > I'll try that. it will probably take a long time. I eyed a SCO > package > > > at the bookstore w/Netscape server - a neat bundle, but I want FBSD > and > > > Apache. > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "leegold" > > > To: "Doug Young" > > > Cc: > > > Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 2:58 PM > > > Subject: Re: classic newbie inquiry > > > > > > > > > > So this it's a major undertaking explaining this? I would imagine > so. > > > > But it's really where FreeBSD shines as i understand it. It would > be > > > > glorious, nifty, cool to have a step-by-step explanation of the > > > > procedure. When you have the time and feel like demystifying the > web > > > > server setup. I'll go at it like a big dog. > > > > > > > > I'd do a fresh FreeBSD install w/out X - that's for sure. I have > never > > > > downloaded source and compiled to get a port/app. I've always > tried to > > > > get the binaries. There's alot of stuff that would have to be > covered. > > > > > > > > And now for questions that show my partial ( total ? ) ignorance: > > > > > > > > What is the purpose of Apache? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Doug Young" > > > > To: "leegold" > > > > Cc: > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 1:13 AM > > > > Subject: Re: classic newbie inquiry > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ahhhhhhhhhh yes ..... the dreaded getty & apache strike again > > > > !!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > > > > > > > Both those really need a better (as in "more explicit") > explanation > > > > than > > > > > whats > > > > > presently available, & are high on the list of stuff for the > next > > > > version of > > > > > Pedantic FreeBSD. The "man ppp" isn't anywhere near as bad as > the > > > > apache > > > > > stuff generally though, thanks to Brian Somers ... he has been > > > > extremely > > > > > helpful whenever I've > > > > > had problems comprehending any user-ppp issues. Basically what > I've > > > > been > > > > > doing > > > > > for the dialin setup is creating the ppplogin file, then setting > > > > ppplogin as > > > > > the login > > > > > shell for dialin users, basically as the "Method 1" in man ppp > > > > explains. I > > > > > HATE that poxridden "vi" monstrosity though, so to make life > easier > > > > when I > > > > > run "vipw" to edit > > > > > the master password file, I first set the default editor to "ee" > by > > > > using > > > > > "setenv > > > > > EDITOR ee". That doesn't "stick", so it needs to be re-set every > > > time > > > > you > > > > > use > > > > > "vipw". > > > > > > > > > > Avoid the /sysinstall version of mgetty at all costs ... its > TOTALLY > > > > broken > > > > > !!! > > > > > As far as I can tell the only possible way to getmgetty working > is > > > by > > > > > compiling from source, and thats another challenge given that > the > > > info > > > > > provided isn't as helpful as it could be ..... my advice for > what > > > its > > > > worth > > > > > is to stick with the man ppp / getty / method . > > > > > > > > > > Now for apache ...... it probably wins the prize for the most > poorly > > > > > documented application ever. There is virtually no attempt at > > > > explanation > > > > > anywhere for basic apache setup .... the apache homepage > isutterly > > > > useless, > > > > > likewise the various man ages. Thankfully I've always got it > > > running > > > > in > > > > > basic form (ie without php etc) straight from sysinstall. The > main > > > > problem > > > > > I've struck is with inability to find the pages I've put in the > > > proper > > > > > location (at least "proper" according to pppd.conf). I now know > that > > > > was > > > > > because of some symbolic links which I inadvertently broke > whilst > > > > copying > > > > > pages into the default location. I haven't messed around with > this > > > > stuff for > > > > > a while, but I recall reading about many others having similar > > > > problems as I > > > > > did with "page not found" type errors, and invariably the cause > was > > > > the > > > > > broken links. As I recall, the guts of the issue is that the > pages > > > > aren't > > > > > where they are supposed to be according to pppd.conf ..... they > are > > > > > somewhere weird with (hopefully) a link between where pppd.conf > > > thinks > > > > they > > > > > are & where they REALLY are !!! If you don't know exactly what > you > > > are > > > > on > > > > > about when you start replacing the dummy page with your own > content > > > > you > > > > > could easily end up with the same problem, so be VERY careful > here > > > :) > > > > Other > > > > > than that its fairly straightforward until you get into linking > > > apache > > > > with > > > > > a database ... the apparent favourite method (PHP) is another > > > > contender for > > > > > the worst documentation on the planet .... I'm getting > infinitely > > > > better > > > > > results with solutions like CGI / C++ / Java ... at least > > > there's > > > > a > > > > > bunch of decent docs for those. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "leegold" > > > > > To: > > > > > Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 10:39 AM > > > > > Subject: classic newbie inquiry > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > could anyone direct me to very basic how-to's on stting up > FreeBSD > > > > to > > > > > > answer the phone and being an internet server. I have never > done > > > > this I > > > > > > admit - and want to learn how. Maybe just put a few html pages > on > > > it > > > > to > > > > > > start. > > > > > > > > > > > > Where do i start?, what links would explain on basic level? > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 13 18:50:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9533C37B660 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 18:50:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ure@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.16.193.228]) by femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000814015004.IGZ6839.femail1.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com>; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 18:50:04 -0700 Message-ID: <3997504D.5D24EDB3@home.com> Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2000 18:50:05 -0700 From: yuri k Organization: EMN X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-9mdk i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Hello with Compliments Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All, new Macintosh user gone wild is here; downloaded the iso today and installed it without a hitch. considering that i am not a geek at all... great job, thank you very much. now to loot my neighbourhood bookstore... Yuri K Vancouver, WA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Aug 13 22: 2:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net (smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net [207.172.4.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DA5037B8C3 for ; Sun, 13 Aug 2000 22:02:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from goldtech@worldpost.com) Received: from 209-122-228-34.s288.tnt2.nyw.ny.dialup.rcn.com ([209.122.228.34] helo=beefstew) by smtp02.mrf.mail.rcn.net with smtp (Exim 3.15 #2) id 13OCO3-0003jZ-00 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 01:02:11 -0400 Message-ID: <002b01c005ac$dbc49060$22e47ad1@beefstew> From: "leegold" To: Subject: Re: classic newbie inquiry Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 01:02:33 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I never did a make, other then installing a custom kernel were I think the procedure did call for a make. I always tried to install binaries and avoid the "real stuff". I always used sysinstall for the ports. I don't know how to do what you are referring to. Yet, I have been accepted to graduate school for comp. sci. at an accredited university - FIGURE THAT ONE OUT. ( I'm not going though ). From my experience w/the documentation and dealing w/people at the local Linux/bsd users groups while figuring out how to do the install and the basic Unix I had to know, I'm pessimistic that I'll find a step by step explanation of how to setup a web server in any one place. glad your install went smoothly for you - for me it's gonna be a long hack - it always is. Thanks for the encouragement. But the gent in Australia is working on some "Pedantic" step by step docs. That's going to be good. > > I feel stupid. If I do one small procedural thing/day towards > > implementing the server that will keep the questions tightly focused - > > I'll try that. it will probably take a long time. I eyed a SCO package > > at the bookstore w/Netscape server - a neat bundle, but I want FBSD and > > Apache. > > Interesting... make install all clean in > /usr/ports/www/apache(whatever) yeilded me a fully working web server in > about 20 minutes. There are a few configuration things needed, but nothing > big. > > Rick > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 14 10:27:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4DE137B87C for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 10:27:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.69.47]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA67B8; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 10:29:20 -0700 Message-ID: <39982B57.871D8B0E@acuson.com> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 10:24:39 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: leegold Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: classic newbie inquiry References: <001901c004f8$3628fbf0$0ded7ad1@beefstew> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org leegold wrote: > > How the hell am I gonna learn how to set up a web server? just learning > how to install FreeBSD was relatively difficult. Hee hee. A web server is not a newbie kind of thing. Or at least not an OS newbie kind of thing. The problem isn't FreeBSD or its perceived lack of documentation. Apache is not FreeBSD. I've never deliberately used Apache, but I managed to install it by mistake under Linux several times (damn you Redhat!). Getting it installed and running is not the problem. Getting it properly configured for your situation is another matter. I would check out the O'Reilly book, as mentioned, find an Apache for Dummies book (great when you're so clueless you don't know where to start), or the Apache webpage. > I feel stupid. I'll trade your 'stupid' for my 'stupid'. My 'stupid' is extremely embarrasing and I would gladly trade it in for a newer model. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 14 10:31:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22FD537BD89 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 10:31:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.69.47]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA6A4C; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 10:33:32 -0700 Message-ID: <39982C56.15931CC1@acuson.com> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 10:28:54 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: giralua Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Application usable only by root References: <3994F18E.537B94C5@pacbell.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org giralua wrote: > > Would someone please direct me to the relevant manual page? > > I can start Star Office 5.2 in KDE if I "startx" as root. When I startx > as a user, Star Office isn't on the menu. Did you install it as a user? This means that as root you install it with "setup /network" (or something like that, see the pdf doc), and then as user you install it with /path/to/staroffice/Office52/bin/setup. This method of installing software is not immediately intuitive. Check out the pdf installation help file that comes with Staroffice, or check with the website at "www.sun.com/staroffice". David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 14 15: 8:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f234.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 739DC37B56B for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:08:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jasonla_@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:08:17 -0700 Received: from 209.249.20.61 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.249.20.61] From: "Jason La" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Suggestions for Documentation Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:08:17 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Aug 2000 22:08:17.0667 (UTC) FILETIME=[264BA530:01C0063C] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Whom it May Concern, I am a newbie (that's why I'm in this group). I have some suggestions to whomever might write FBSD documentation. As a newbie, it took a while for me to understand what a "server" was. I started out thinking that it was a physical machine. I didn't find any place that explained to me what a software server was.. like the X Server... SUGGESTION: Please take the time to explain some basic background or understanding so you doin't loose us. Also, I initially didn't know where to find files that docs and books referred to. For example, in Grey Lehay's Complete FreeBSD, he refers to xinitrc, but never told me where to find it. Being a newbie, it's difficult for me to know where to find stuff and what the hierarchy of FreeBSD is. I had more, but can't remember them at the momment. Hoever, keeping things in prosective, you guys are writing stuff that I can get for free, and I can't do any better a job, so thanks guy! Thanks, Jason La jasonla_@hotmail.com ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 14 17:25: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9340937B626 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 17:25:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.70.102]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA4A69; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 17:27:18 -0700 Message-ID: <39982B63.D3ADCFE9@acuson.com> Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 17:24:51 +0000 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason La Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestions for Documentation References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jason La wrote: > As a newbie, it took a while for me to understand what a "server" was. I > started out thinking that it was a physical machine. I didn't find any place > that explained to me what a software server was.. like the X Server... > SUGGESTION: Please take the time to explain some basic background or > understanding so you doin't loose us. Really basic information like is very useful, but I don't think it belongs in the FBSD documentation. The FreeBSD docs should be about FreeBSD and included software. "Server" is a very basic term, and I don't think the docs need to cover it. A glossary with basic terms like this defined will more than double the size of the handbook. FreeBSD should have complete documentation for newbies to the system, but at the same time I think it should demand some level of computer literacy. -- David Johnson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 14 18: 3:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail8.bigmailbox.com (mail8.bigmailbox.com [209.132.220.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51D3137B9C1 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:03:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ty@refute.org) Received: œby mail8.bigmailbox.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id SAA28525; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:08:02 -0700 Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 18:08:02 -0700 Message-Id: <200008150108.SAA28525@mail8.bigmailbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-Ip: [209.226.152.165] From: "Tyler Lu" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Suggestions for Documentation Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org First of all, you should learn some basic unix concepts. Try reading some introductory tutorials on unix generally. Second, to explain everything would be a lot to explain. The writers don't have time, and it will be beyond the scope of the document. Maybe you should try varieties of OS that have a Linux kernel, like Mandrake, Redhat, Slackware... Then dig into FreeBSD. It also wouldn't hurt if you learn about basics theory of computers and networks, such as memory storage and retrieval, binary number system, TCP/IP Stack, etc... - Tyler Lu >From: "Jason La" >To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Suggestions for Documentation >Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:08:17 PDT > >To Whom it May Concern, > >I am a newbie (that's why I'm in this group). I have some suggestions to >whomever might write FBSD documentation. > >As a newbie, it took a while for me to understand what a "server" was. I >started out thinking that it was a physical machine. I didn't find any place >that explained to me what a software server was.. like the X Server... >SUGGESTION: Please take the time to explain some basic background or >understanding so you doin't loose us. > >Also, I initially didn't know where to find files that docs and books >referred to. For example, in Grey Lehay's Complete FreeBSD, he refers to >xinitrc, but never told me where to find it. Being a newbie, it's difficult >for me to know where to find stuff and what the hierarchy of FreeBSD is. > >I had more, but can't remember them at the momment. > >Hoever, keeping things in prosective, you guys are writing stuff that I can >get for free, and I can't do any better a job, so thanks guy! > >Thanks, >Jason La >jasonla_@hotmail.com > >________________________________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message _______________________________________________________ Tyler Lu Email: ty@refute.org WWW: http://web.refute.org/ "It's different to walk the path than to know the path" -Morpheus, The Matrix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Aug 14 21:49:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from rabacal.direct.ca (rabacal.direct.ca [199.60.229.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D98837B561 for ; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:49:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from astonge@direct.ca) Received: from bc-pen-a53-01-66.look.ca ([216.66.160.66] helo=sickboy ident=adrian) by rabacal.direct.ca with smtp (Exim 2.12 #7) id 13OYfP-0003Ri-00 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:49:35 -0700 Message-ID: <001301c00674$327252e0$0100a8c0@look.ca> From: "Adrian St.Onge" To: Subject: Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 21:49:28 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 15 6:37:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.malawi.net (mail.malawi.net [208.148.169.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C16C37B6CF for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 06:37:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hnkhoma@malawi.net) Received: from chief ([208.148.168.142]) by mail.malawi.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) with SMTP id e7FFcaD00171 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 17:38:38 +0200 (CAT) Message-ID: <001701c006be$37c6c420$8ea894d0@galaxy> From: "Herbert Nkhoma" To: References: <200008150108.SAA28525@mail8.bigmailbox.com> Subject: Re: Suggestions for Documentation Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:33:09 +0200 Organization: MalawiNet Limited MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi everyone, I want to send a message to all my users. My uderstanding was that I need to put the message in the following directory "/var/spool/bulls" and everything should just roll. Nothing is happening can somebody help me? Herbert To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 15 6:46:19 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from tisch.mail.mindspring.net (tisch.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BDC137B9ED for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 06:46:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abovone@mindspring.com) Received: from alex (user-2inigbi.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.65.114]) by tisch.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with SMTP id JAA07557 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:46:11 -0400 (EDT) From: abovone@mindspring.com Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.20000815095102.0082b100@pop.mindspring.com> X-Sender: abovone@pop.mindspring.com X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.1 (32) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:51:02 -0400 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: ports Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Having trouble installing ports.. I'm tring to install emacs, I did a whereis command to find the directory, cd to it (/usr/ports/editors/emacs) ls the dir found the files Makefile README.html files patches pkg these are the skeleton file right? then as the complete FreeBSD book states entered a make command at the prompt then got this message emacs-19.34btar.gz doesn't seem to exist on this system then it tried to ftp it from a site (I'm not connected yet so that didn't work) there's no atempt to get it from my cdrom (it is mounted cd /cdrom).. What am I doing Wrong??? Same thing happens to every port i try to install.... Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 15 7: 6:11 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.smed.com (smtp.smed.com [12.20.51.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F0A37B9A7 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 07:06:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Joe.Warner@smed.com) Received: from smtpgate.shrmed.com (keymaster.smed.com [12.20.51.2]) by smtp.smed.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD7016193 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:06:07 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iesa14.shrmed.com (iesa14.shrmed.com [10.1.99.114]) by smtpgate.shrmed.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA02327 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:06:07 -0400 From: Joe.Warner@smed.com Received: from Deimos.smed.com (unverified) by iesa14.shrmed.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with SMTP id ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:06:01 -0400 Received: by Deimos.smed.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.5 (863.2 5-20-1999)) id 8525693C.004D5FE1 ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 10:05:08 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SMS To: abovone@mindspring.com Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-Id: <8525693C.004D5DD7.00@Deimos.smed.com> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 08:06:51 -0600 Subject: Re: ports MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alex, This is a common problem that pops up on this list quite frequently. Try the steps outlined below and let me know if you still have problems. Joe Did you: 1. Place the correct CD in the cdrom drive? 2. Log in or su as root 2. mount the cd with "mount /cdrom? 3. go to the directory of the port you wish to install with "cd /usr/ports/whatever? 4. Once inside the directory, did you type "make install"? If you followed these steps, it should have detected the cdrom in your cdrom drive and installed the correct port application. I'm guessing you didn't mount the cdrom first or you're getting packages confused with ports. If you log in as root and mount a particular cdrom and then look inside the cdrom directory (cd /cdrom), you should be able to see the contents of the cdrom by using "ls". Packages are located in the "packages" directory and ports in the "port/distfiles" directories. Installing a package involves a different process but it's not that difficult. To install a package, do this: 1. After finding the package on the cd you wish to install, cd out of the /cdrom directory and type "umount /cdrom" (DO NOT MOUNT THE CDROM AGAIN) 2. Make sure you're logged in as root and type "/stand/sysinstall" 3. Choose "Do post-install configuration of FreeBSD" and then "Install pre-packaged software for FreeBSD". 4. Finally, choose "Install from a FreeBSD CDROM" and choose the packages you want to install. Hope this helps.. Joe |--------+-----------------------> | | abovone@minds| | | pring.com | | | | | | 08/15/00 | | | 07:51 AM | | | | |--------+-----------------------> >---------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG | | cc: (bcc: Joe Warner/SMS) | | Subject: ports | >---------------------------------------------------------| Having trouble installing ports.. I'm tring to install emacs, I did a whereis command to find the directory, cd to it (/usr/ports/editors/emacs) ls the dir found the files Makefile README.html files patches pkg these are the skeleton file right? then as the complete FreeBSD book states entered a make command at the prompt then got this message emacs-19.34btar.gz doesn't seem to exist on this system then it tried to ftp it from a site (I'm not connected yet so that didn't work) there's no atempt to get it from my cdrom (it is mounted cd /cdrom).. What am I doing Wrong??? Same thing happens to every port i try to install.... Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 15 9: 2:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sn1oexchr02.nextvenue.com (pony.nextvenue.com [209.0.251.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 670E537B815 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:02:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nevans@nextvenue.com) Received: FROM sn1exchmbx.nextvenue.com BY sn1oexchr02.nextvenue.com ; Tue Aug 15 12:02:15 2000 -0400 Received: by sn1exchmbx.nextvenue.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:01:45 -0400 Message-ID: <712384017032D411AD7B0001023D799B33B261@sn1exchmbx.nextvenue.com> From: Nick Evans To: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: Change login banner Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:01:39 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C006D2.18EFEE50" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C006D2.18EFEE50 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" How do you change the login banner on telnet sessions? ------------------------------------------ nick.evans network.engineering NextVenue, Inc. phone: (212) 909.2988 pager: (888) 642.5541 ------_=_NextPart_001_01C006D2.18EFEE50 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Change login banner

How do you change the login banner on telnet sessions?

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nick.evans
network.engineering
NextVenue, Inc.
phone: (212) 909.2988
pager: (888) 642.5541

------_=_NextPart_001_01C006D2.18EFEE50-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 15 9:19:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from stone.locallink.net (Stone.LocalLink.Net [204.71.156.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B6B337BC16 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:19:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kpitcher@stone.locallink.net) Received: (from kpitcher@localhost) by stone.locallink.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA17733; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:24:25 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <20000815122425.37545@locallink.net> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:24:25 -0400 From: Keith Pitcher To: Nick Evans Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Change login banner References: <712384017032D411AD7B0001023D799B33B261@sn1exchmbx.nextvenue.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.84e In-Reply-To: <712384017032D411AD7B0001023D799B33B261@sn1exchmbx.nextvenue.com>; from Nick Evans on Tue, Aug 15, 2000 at 12:01:39PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Aug 15, 2000 at 12:01:39PM -0400, Nick Evans wrote: > How do you change the login banner on telnet sessions? > change the file /etc/motd Along this line anyone happen to know a web page for nice motd logins? The days of ascii art appear to be in the past. And I'm a little tired of the big Don't Panic logo. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Keith Pitcher kpitcher@locallink.net LocalLink - Your Local Link to the World http://www.locallink.net 800 687-2202 616 424-4999 Fax : 616 424-4995 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 15 9:21:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sn1oexchr02.nextvenue.com (pony.nextvenue.com [209.0.251.199]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6853137BD48 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:21:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nevans@nextvenue.com) Received: FROM sn1exchmbx.nextvenue.com BY sn1oexchr02.nextvenue.com ; Tue Aug 15 12:21:05 2000 -0400 Received: by sn1exchmbx.nextvenue.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:20:35 -0400 Message-ID: <712384017032D411AD7B0001023D799B33B266@sn1exchmbx.nextvenue.com> From: Nick Evans To: 'Noah Abraham Levitt' Cc: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: Change login banner Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:20:26 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C006D4.B866EB80" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C006D4.B866EB80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" That's the login message. I've changed that in the past, I mean the part when you first telnet to the box the FreeBSD/i386 (somehostname) (ttyp0) That part. I'd like to mask the OS name etc. I've seen this done on linux systems, but wasn't sure how it was done or if it could be done in freebsd. Nick -----Original Message----- From: Noah Abraham Levitt [mailto:nlevitt@umich.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 12:07 PM To: Nick Evans Subject: Re: Change login banner /etc/motd I think... On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Nick Evans wrote: > How do you change the login banner on telnet sessions? > > ------------------------------------------ > nick.evans > network.engineering > NextVenue, Inc. > phone: (212) 909.2988 > pager: (888) 642.5541 > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C006D4.B866EB80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable RE: Change login banner

That's the login message. I've changed that in the = past, I mean the part when you first telnet to the box the

FreeBSD/i386 (somehostname) (ttyp0)


That part. I'd like to mask the OS name etc. I've = seen this done on linux systems, but wasn't sure how it was done or if = it could be done in freebsd.

Nick

-----Original Message-----
From: Noah Abraham Levitt [mailto:nlevitt@umich.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 12:07 PM
To: Nick Evans
Subject: Re: Change login banner


/etc/motd I think...

On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Nick Evans wrote:

> How do you change the login banner on telnet = sessions?
>
> = ------------------------------------------
> nick.evans
> network.engineering
> NextVenue, Inc.
> phone: (212) 909.2988
> pager: (888) 642.5541
>
>

------_=_NextPart_001_01C006D4.B866EB80-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 15 9:27:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from shell.sohost.net (209.17.128.149.arpa.gt.ca [209.17.128.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E0D737B983 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:27:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brent@sohost.net) Received: (qmail 10183 invoked by alias); 15 Aug 2000 16:26:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO sohost.net) (209.87.30.241) by mail.sohost.net with SMTP; 15 Aug 2000 16:26:45 -0000 Message-ID: <39997074.2B379962@sohost.net> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:31:48 -0700 From: Brent Rector X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org unsubscribe -- Brent L. Rector brent@sohost.net SysAdmin/Accounts +1.604.519.4525 ext 2 SoHost Networks Inc. http://www.sohost.net ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me to advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product. -- OWNED? MS: Who's Been In Your Computer Today? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 15 9:31:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD15F37BE69 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:31:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: from localhost (lplist@localhost) by q.closedsrc.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e7FGTJx83242; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:29:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:29:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Nick Evans Cc: "'Noah Abraham Levitt'" , "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: Change login banner In-Reply-To: <712384017032D411AD7B0001023D799B33B266@sn1exchmbx.nextvenue.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Nick Evans mumbled: > That's the login message. I've changed that in the past, I mean the part > when you first telnet to the box the > > FreeBSD/i386 (somehostname) (ttyp0) > > > That part. I'd like to mask the OS name etc. I've seen this done on linux > systems, but wasn't sure how it was done or if it could be done in freebsd. You can completely disable the FreeBSD/i386 line from Telnet is to add the -h arg to telnetd in /etc/inetd.conf. Unfortunately, I don't know how to change it :-( // Linh Pham // http://closedsrc.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 15 9:32:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0099C37BD1E for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:32:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: from localhost (lplist@localhost) by q.closedsrc.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e7FGUWl83250; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:30:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:30:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Nick Evans Cc: "'Noah Abraham Levitt'" , "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: Change login banner In-Reply-To: <712384017032D411AD7B0001023D799B33B266@sn1exchmbx.nextvenue.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Nick Evans mumbled: > That's the login message. I've changed that in the past, I mean the part > when you first telnet to the box the > > FreeBSD/i386 (somehostname) (ttyp0) Mental block in the last message... I do know how to change the line in /etc/inetd.conf but I don't know how to change the OS banner when you log into the system from Telnet. My bad :) // Linh Pham // http://closedsrc.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 15 9:51:23 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.bigmailbox.com (mail1.bigmailbox.com [209.132.220.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55B6337BDAA for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:51:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ty@refute.org) Received: œby mail1.bigmailbox.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id JAA10816; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:51:03 -0700 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:51:03 -0700 Message-Id: <200008151651.JAA10816@mail1.bigmailbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-Ip: [209.226.188.192] From: "Tyler Lu" To: lplist@closedsrc.org Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Change login banner Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:30:32 -0700 (PDT) >From: Linh Pham >Mental block in the last message... I do know how to change the line >in /etc/inetd.conf but I don't know how to change the OS banner when >you log into the system from Telnet. Perhaps you should seek help in freebsd-hackers -ty _______________________________________________________ Tyler Lu Email: ty@refute.org WWW: http://web.refute.org/ "It's different to walk the path than to know the path" -Morpheus, The Matrix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 15 12:18: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtppop3.gte.net (smtppop3pub.gte.net [206.46.170.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 463EE37BFAE for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 12:18:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oljeep.collins@gte.net) Received: from gte.net (tamqfl1-ar1-200-230.biz.dsl.gtei.net [4.35.200.230]) by smtppop3.gte.net with ESMTP for ; id OAA11075773 Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:14:11 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <39999763.41B5966A@gte.net> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:17:55 -0400 From: Tom Collins X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en]C-AOL (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: [Fwd: Re: Change login banner] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: Change login banner Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 13:21:43 -0400 From: Tom Collins To: Tyler Lu References: <200008151651.JAA10816@mail1.bigmailbox.com> I did this on my FreeBSD v3.4 box but I'm not near it right now so try this link http://www.freebsddiary.org/prelogin.html#disable Basically in the line below just add the -h switch telnet stream tcp nowait root /usr/libexec/telnetd telnetd -h # -h Disable the printing of host-specific information before login has been completed. Tyler Lu wrote: > >Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 09:30:32 -0700 (PDT) > >From: Linh Pham > > >Mental block in the last message... I do know how to change the line > >in /etc/inetd.conf but I don't know how to change the OS banner when > >you log into the system from Telnet. > > Perhaps you should seek help in freebsd-hackers > > -ty > > _______________________________________________________ > Tyler Lu > > Email: ty@refute.org > WWW: http://web.refute.org/ > > "It's different to walk the path than to know the path" > -Morpheus, The Matrix > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 15 13:12:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web5305.mail.yahoo.com (web5305.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.106.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E7CE937B9A0 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 13:12:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pms_tech@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20000815201209.14859.qmail@web5305.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [192.58.194.4] by web5305.mail.yahoo.com; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 13:12:09 PDT Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 13:12:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Pratik Shah Subject: freebsd 3.3 download To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have a freebsd version of 3.4 and I wish to run the NIST switch, which apparently runs only on fbsd 2.2.6 or fbsd 3.3. I tried to look for resources on fbsd 3.3 download, but am not finding the same, even on the fbsd home site. Can anyone please guide me to the resources... Thanks, Pratik Shah. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail – Free email you can access from anywhere! http://mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 15 14: 1:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from freeside.fc.net (freeside.fc.net [207.170.70.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D0E37B9F2 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:01:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jdunham@freeside.fc.net) Received: (from jdunham@localhost) by freeside.fc.net (8.9.3/8.8.8) id QAA62115; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:01:41 -0500 (CDT) From: Jerry Dunham Message-Id: <200008152101.QAA62115@freeside.fc.net> Subject: Re: Suggestions for Documentation In-Reply-To: <39982B63.D3ADCFE9@acuson.com> from David Johnson at "Aug 14, 2000 05:24:51 pm" To: djohnson@acuson.com (David Johnson) Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:01:41 -0500 (CDT) Cc: jasonla_@hotmail.com (Jason La), freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David Johnson babbled: > Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 17:24:51 +0000 > Jason La wrote: > > > As a newbie, it took a while for me to understand what a "server" was. I > > started out thinking that it was a physical machine. I didn't find any place > > that explained to me what a software server was.. like the X Server... > > SUGGESTION: Please take the time to explain some basic background or > > understanding so you doin't loose us. > > Really basic information like is very useful, but I don't think it > belongs in the FBSD documentation. The FreeBSD docs should be about > FreeBSD and included software. "Server" is a very basic term, and I > don't think the docs need to cover it. A glossary with basic terms like > this defined will more than double the size of the handbook. > > FreeBSD should have complete documentation for newbies to the system, > but at the same time I think it should demand some level of computer > literacy. When I came to FreeBSD I'd been using computers for 30 years (starting with classes on an IBM 1620), but that didn't help me know where to find .xinitrc. I also had no idea what an X server was or that the X client/ server relationship would look backwards to a non-softhead. I think the FreeBSD documentation could stand to cover some of these things, or in this case point to some XFree86 documentation that does (if such exists). -- Jerry Dunham FreeBSD http://www.dunham.org jdunham@fc.net jerry@dunham.org (512)335-0674 (H) E Pluribus Unix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 15 14:19:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail7.bigmailbox.com (mail7.bigmailbox.com [209.132.220.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 821B837BEB1 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:19:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ty@refute.org) Received: œby mail7.bigmailbox.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) id OAA24990; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:23:22 -0700 Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:23:22 -0700 Message-Id: <200008152123.OAA24990@mail7.bigmailbox.com> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: binary X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.116) Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Originating-Ip: [209.226.187.169] From: "Tyler Lu" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: [Fwd: RE: Suggestions for Documentation] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Jukka_Simil=E4?= >To: "'Tyler Lu'" , freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org >Subject: RE: Suggestions for Documentation >Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 08:38:40 +0200 > >(Tyler, could you forward/reply to newbies too, I'm behind a firewall and >can't post to any freebsd lists) > >> Maybe you should try varieties of OS that have a Linux >> kernel, like Mandrake, >> Redhat, Slackware... Then dig into FreeBSD. > >IMHO: First try FreeBSD, then dig into Linux. You know, it is more sensible >to first learn the easier OS and then look at those weird scribble-scrabble >collection mess-ups. >In my experience FreeBSD is easier than Linux, I started with it when I >moved from windows world, and have tried Linux after that. Those linuxes >(RedHat 5 and Mandrake 7) lasted on my HD for less than 2 days and then I >noticed it has nothing that FreeBSD can't offer, and FreeBSD does it in the >way I like it. > >> >> It also wouldn't hurt if you learn about basics theory of >> computers and >> networks, such as memory storage and retrieval, binary number >> system, TCP/IP >> Stack, etc... >> >> - Tyler Lu >> >> >> >From: "Jason La" >> >To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG >> >Subject: Suggestions for Documentation >> >Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 15:08:17 PDT >> > >> >To Whom it May Concern, >> > >> >I am a newbie (that's why I'm in this group). I have some >> suggestions to >> >whomever might write FBSD documentation. >> > >> >As a newbie, it took a while for me to understand what a >> "server" was. I >> >started out thinking that it was a physical machine. I >> didn't find any place >> >that explained to me what a software server was.. like the X >> Server... >> >SUGGESTION: Please take the time to explain some basic background or >> >understanding so you doin't loose us. >> > >> >Also, I initially didn't know where to find files that docs >> and books >> >referred to. For example, in Grey Lehay's Complete FreeBSD, >> he refers to >> >xinitrc, but never told me where to find it. Being a newbie, >> it's difficult >> >for me to know where to find stuff and what the hierarchy of >> FreeBSD is. >> > >> >I had more, but can't remember them at the momment. >> > >> >Hoever, keeping things in prosective, you guys are writing >> stuff that I can >> >get for free, and I can't do any better a job, so thanks guy! >> > >> >Thanks, >> >Jason La >> >jasonla_@hotmail.com >> > >> >_____________________________________________________________ >> ___________ >> >Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at >http://www.hotmail.com >> >> >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > >_______________________________________________________ >Tyler Lu > >Email: ty@refute.org >WWW: http://web.refute.org/ > >"It's different to walk the path than to know the path" >-Morpheus, The Matrix > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message _______________________________________________________ Tyler Lu Email: ty@refute.org WWW: http://web.refute.org/ "There's a difference between knowing the path, and walking the path." -Morpheus, The Matrix To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 15 14:23:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ftwmail.bdi.gte.com (ftwmail.bdi.gte.com [192.76.86.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D7D737B564; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 14:23:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tim.grzechowski@aais.bdi.gte.com) Received: from ftwmail.bdi.gte.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ftwmail.bdi.gte.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA02223; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:19:09 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail1.irngtx.tel.gte.com ([143.91.100.195]) by ftwmail.bdi.gte.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA02212; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:19:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from calender.tmtrfl.tel.gte.com (calender.tmtrfl.tel.gte.com [136.151.235.242]) by mail1.irngtx.tel.gte.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA10678; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:23:21 -0500 (CDT) Received: from aais.bdi.gte.com (michigan.tmtrfl.tel.gte.com [136.151.196.186]) by calender.tmtrfl.tel.gte.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2448.0) id Q0GZC2YB; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 17:33:26 -0400 Message-ID: <3999B44C.DDD53EF5@aais.bdi.gte.com> Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 17:21:16 -0400 From: Tim Grzechowski Organization: GTE Data Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12-20 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: BOCA BB1008 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Interesting problem, I have installed two Boca BB1008 boards for console access to a litter of Sun, HPUX, and AIX servers... I installed/configured one board at a time. At the bottom of this email is the info from dmesg as well as from my kernel. However in the /dev directory it only lists "cuaa0" thru "cuaa11". I have tested out the first card and all the ports work as expectecd, on the second board the first three work great (as expected considering the devices that are available)... however because cuaa12 and above don't exists I can do the normal "cu -l /dev/cuaa12 -s 9600" (or 13, 14, et cetera). I have recompiled the kernel, even did a :make clean" first, any ideas how to automajically create the five devices I am missing? Thanks! /tg KERNEL: --------------------------------------------------------------- options COM_MULTIPORT # Needed for Boca 4/8 Port sio boards # Serial (COM) ports #device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 #device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 #device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5 #device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9 device sio1 at isa? port 0x100 flags 0xb05 device sio2 at isa? port 0x108 flags 0xb05 device sio3 at isa? port 0x110 flags 0xb05 device sio4 at isa? port 0x118 flags 0xb05 device sio5 at isa? port 0x120 flags 0xb05 device sio6 at isa? port 0x128 flags 0xb05 device sio7 at isa? port 0x130 flags 0xb05 device sio8 at isa? port 0x138 flags 0xb05 irq 4 device sio9 at isa? port 0x200 flags 0xb05 device sio10 at isa? port 0x208 flags 0xb05 device sio11 at isa? port 0x210 flags 0xb05 device sio12 at isa? port 0x218 flags 0xb05 device sio13 at isa? port 0x220 flags 0xb05 device sio14 at isa? port 0x228 flags 0xb05 device sio15 at isa? port 0x230 flags 0xb05 device sio16 at isa? port 0x238 flags 0xb05 irq 3 --------------------------------------------------------------- DMESG: --------------------------------------------------------------- sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio1 at port 0x100-0x107 flags 0xb05 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A (multiport) sio2 at port 0x108-0x10f flags 0xb05 on isa0 sio2: type 16550A (multiport) sio3 at port 0x110-0x117 flags 0xb05 on isa0 sio3: type 16550A (multiport) sio4 at port 0x118-0x11f flags 0xb05 on isa0 sio4: type 16550A (multiport) sio5 at port 0x120-0x127 flags 0xb05 on isa0 sio5: type 16550A (multiport) sio6 at port 0x128-0x12f flags 0xb05 on isa0 sio6: type 16550A (multiport) sio7 at port 0x130-0x137 flags 0xb05 on isa0 sio7: type 16550A (multiport) sio8 at port 0x138-0x13f irq 4 flags 0xb05 on isa0 sio8: type 16550A (multiport) sio9 at port 0x200-0x207 flags 0xb05 on isa0 sio9: type 16550A (multiport) sio10 at port 0x208-0x20f flags 0xb05 on isa0 sio10: type 16550A (multiport) sio11 at port 0x210-0x217 flags 0xb05 on isa0 sio11: type 16550A (multiport master) sio12 at port 0x218-0x21f flags 0xb05 on isa0 sio12: type 16550A (multiport) sio13 at port 0x220-0x227 flags 0xb05 on isa0 sio13: type 16550A (multiport) sio14 at port 0x228-0x22f flags 0xb05 on isa0 sio14: type 16550A (multiport) sio15 at port 0x230-0x237 flags 0xb05 on isa0 sio15: type 16550A (multiport) sio16 at port 0x238-0x23f irq 3 flags 0xb05 on isa0 sio16: type 16550A (multiport) --------------------------------------------------------------- -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Timothy Grzechowski tim.grzechowski@aais.bdi.gte.com --------------------------------------------------------------- GTE Data Services AAIS Engineering, Sys. Admin. --------------------------------------------------------------- Office: 813/978-4327 Office FAX: 813/978-6812 --------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 15 16:55:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f241.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76AB337B689 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:55:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jasonla_@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:55:51 -0700 Received: from 209.249.20.61 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.249.20.61] From: "Jason La" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Slow Connection to Telnet Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 16:55:51 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Aug 2000 23:55:51.0799 (UTC) FILETIME=[57ABC870:01C00714] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org When telnetting to my FreeBSD box, it takes a long time for the FreeBSD box to repsond with a login prompt for me... Help? Thanks, Jason La jasonla_@hotmail.com ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 15 22: 6: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sentry.granch.com (sentry.granch.com [212.109.197.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA1F37C511 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 22:05:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shelton@sentry.granch.com) Received: (from shelton@localhost) by sentry.granch.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA24572; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:08:34 +0700 (NOVST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:08:34 +0700 (NOVST) Reply-To: "Rashid N. Achilov" Organization: Granch Ltd. From: "Rashid N. Achilov" To: Linh Pham Subject: RE: Change login banner Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 15-Aug-00 Linh Pham wrote: > On Tue, 15 Aug 2000, Nick Evans mumbled: > >> That's the login message. I've changed that in the past, I mean the part >> when you first telnet to the box the >> >> FreeBSD/i386 (somehostname) (ttyp0) >> > Unfortunately, I don't know how to change it :-( > man gettytab. /etc/gettytab is file, which describes it in "default" section in "im" parameter. You can change it appropriately -- With Best Regards. Rashid N. Achilov (RNA1-RIPE), Brainbench ID: 28514, Granch Ltd. lead engineer e-mail: achilov@granch.ru, tel (383-2) 24-2363 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Aug 15 23:53:41 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from proxy.kirov.ru (proxy.kirov.ru [194.84.63.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9CF437BD97 for ; Tue, 15 Aug 2000 23:53:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from inzal@ezmail.ru) Received: from star.tssm.kirov.ru (line21.ezmail.ru [172.16.248.21]) by proxy.kirov.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA70077; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:52:43 +0400 (MSD) Received: from ezmail.ru (star.tssm.kirov.ru [192.168.1.100]) by star.tssm.kirov.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA86459; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:09:42 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from inzal@ezmail.ru) Message-ID: <399A3025.A17E5DFC@ezmail.ru> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:09:41 +0400 From: "Valery F. Sherbanov" Organization: tssm X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.5-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nick Evans Cc: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: Change login banner References: <712384017032D411AD7B0001023D799B33B261@sn1exchmbx.nextvenue.com> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------E5523334F9BB46C0F1E9639F" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------E5523334F9BB46C0F1E9639F Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hi /etc/gettytab... find line "default"... change "FreeBSD (%h) (%t)" -> "SonyPlayStation (joystic1)". Fun. ;-) > Nick Evans wrote: > > How do you change the login banner on telnet sessions? > > ------------------------------------------ > nick.evans > network.engineering > NextVenue, Inc. > phone: (212) 909.2988 > pager: (888) 642.5541 --------------E5523334F9BB46C0F1E9639F Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=koi8-r; name="inzal.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Valery F. Sherbanov Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="inzal.vcf" begin:vcard n:F. Sherbanov;Valery tel;work:+7-8332-351868 x-mozilla-html:TRUE org:TSSM, Russia adr:;;Kirov, Russia ;Kirov;;;Russia version:2.1 email;internet:inzal@ezmail.ru title:UNIX programmer x-mozilla-cpt:;10528 fn:Valery F. Serbanov end:vcard --------------E5523334F9BB46C0F1E9639F-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 16 9:25:35 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f25.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA14537B95A for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:25:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jasonla_@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:25:30 -0700 Received: from 209.249.20.61 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.249.20.61] From: "Jason La" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Configuring GNOME, X, and Enlightenment Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 09:25:29 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Aug 2000 16:25:30.0247 (UTC) FILETIME=[97FBE970:01C0079E] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have GNOME installed and I have Enlightenment installed. I want Enlightenment to be the window mangager of my gnome session... but whenever I start enlightenment, it loads it's themes and button settings. I just want enlightenment to be the window manager, nothing else. No themes, no other panels besides what GNOME creates. Thanks, Jason La jasonla_@hotmail.com ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 16 10:31:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC55137C465 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:31:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.69.47]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA2061; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:33:50 -0700 Message-ID: <399ACF64.84FF7581@acuson.com> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:29:08 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jerry Dunham Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Suggestions for Documentation References: <200008152101.QAA62115@freeside.fc.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jerry Dunham wrote: > When I came to FreeBSD I'd been using computers for 30 years (starting > with classes on an IBM 1620), but that didn't help me know where to find > .xinitrc. I also had no idea what an X server was or that the X client/ > server relationship would look backwards to a non-softhead. I think the > FreeBSD documentation could stand to cover some of these things, or in > this case point to some XFree86 documentation that does (if such exists). In the case of this X information, I excluded it from the stuff that should not be documented by FreeBSD. It certainly SHOULD be. And it already is there, but scattered around and hidden in different docs. It should be gathered up and presented in one place. For example, the Handbook (after a quick search) did not explain about .xinitrc, but typing "man startx" did. And of course, all this information can be found at www.xfree86.org :-) David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 16 10:48:43 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8730837C418 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:48:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.69.47]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA298C; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:50:47 -0700 Message-ID: <399AD35D.6ED5A2E6@acuson.com> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 10:46:05 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason La Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Configuring GNOME, X, and Enlightenment References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jason La wrote: > > I have GNOME installed and I have Enlightenment installed. I want > Enlightenment to be the window mangager of my gnome session... but whenever > I start enlightenment, it loads it's themes and button settings. > > I just want enlightenment to be the window manager, nothing else. No themes, > no other panels besides what GNOME creates. Since GNOME does not have its own window manager, it must use another, typically enlightenment or sawmil/sawfish. No window manager duties are performed by GNOME. This leads to an annoying fact under GNOME: You have two kinds of themes! There are window manager themes, which enlightenment is in charge of, and widget themes, which GNOME/GTK is in charge of. A right click on the desktop should (?) get you a menu that you can change the enlightenment theme with. The GNOME themes can be accessed through the main GNOME menu (the foot), then select the control panel. It's been a while since I used GNOME, but there may also be a way to access the window manager theme through the GNOME control panel. As for those extra panels, I'm assuming you mean the icon box and desktop panels. Right clicking on their title bars or frames should bring up a menu that you can use to close them. Then if you save the session, when you exit, they will not come up again. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 16 12:31:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from death.arcdiv.com (death.arcdiv.com [216.162.34.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6835937C759 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 12:17:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kevin@ticktockman.com) Received: from ticktockman.com (host11sub27.offices.ixl.com [216.99.27.11]) by death.arcdiv.com (8.10.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id e7GJFQO181354; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 15:15:26 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <399AE8D0.DEF59290@ticktockman.com> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 15:17:36 -0400 From: kevin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason La Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Configuring GNOME, X, and Enlightenment References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jason La wrote: > I have GNOME installed and I have Enlightenment installed. I want > Enlightenment to be the window mangager of my gnome session... but whenever > I start enlightenment, it loads it's themes and button settings. > > I just want enlightenment to be the window manager, nothing else. No themes, > no other panels besides what GNOME creates. i believe you need to change your .xinitrc file to just contain the following line: gnome-session that will start gnome with the default window manager, and from there you can custom configure how you want everything to pop up. i'm guessing that your .xinitrc file currently looks something like this: gnome-session & exec enlightenment just a guess, but i had a similiar problem with afterstep and gnome.. removing the exec from the file solved the problem. - kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 16 13:10:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from obie.softweyr.com (obie.softweyr.com [204.68.178.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC77237BDC4; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:10:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Received: from softweyr.com ([208.187.122.225]) by obie.softweyr.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id OAA03179; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 14:09:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wes@softweyr.com) Message-ID: <399AF67F.521E6FDE@softweyr.com> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 14:15:59 -0600 From: Wes Peters Organization: Softweyr LLC X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Warner Cc: Frank Pawlak , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Newbie Learning Experience References: <4.3.2.7.2.20000805110010.00b8d348@127.0.0.1> <398C3C21.CAB81AB4@uswest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Joe Warner wrote: > > Thanks Frank. Actually, I thought about posting it on Daemon News but it > would probably be too long, since I don't have a URL to link it to. Oh > well....such is the life of a lamer. 8^) Send it to articles@daemonnews.org, but be warned, they may ask for more. -- "Where am I, and what am I doing in this handbasket?" Wes Peters Softweyr LLC wes@softweyr.com http://softweyr.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 16 16:32:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from lh2.rdc1.tx.home.com (ha2.rdc1.tx.home.com [24.4.0.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE59B37B845 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:32:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mrboboo@home.com) Received: from c158580a ([24.21.170.113]) by lh2.rdc1.tx.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.02.00 201-229-116) with SMTP id <20000816233222.NBRI27431.lh2.rdc1.tx.home.com@c158580a> for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 16:32:22 -0700 Message-ID: <001c01c007da$940822c0$71aa1518@mesqt1.tx.home.com> From: "MrBoboo" To: "newbie @ freebsd" Subject: info on gnome/gtk+ Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 18:34:53 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0019_01C007B0.AB108900" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C007B0.AB108900 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable i have been reading up on gnome and gtk+ and only a few places put them = together. all i want is to install gnome (havent yet done that.....dont = have a dedicated box for it yet) and gtk+. do i have to have something else installed like enlightenment?? i am = just wondering b/c only places like www.gtk.org (which only states that = it needs is the xwindow system and associated libraries),=20 in order to have gnome is there anything else i need to have in order to = run GTK+??? i am a newbie to this and i am learning (i admit) thanx Rob Wideman mrboboo@home.com ------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C007B0.AB108900 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
i have been reading up on gnome and = gtk+ and only a=20 few places put them together. all i want is to install gnome = (havent yet=20 done that.....dont have a dedicated box for it yet) and = gtk+.
do i have to have something else = installed like=20 enlightenment?? i am just wondering b/c only places like www.gtk.org (which only states that it = needs is=20 the xwindow system and associated libraries),
in order to have gnome is there = anything else i=20 need to have in order to run GTK+???
i am a newbie to this and i am learning = (i=20 admit)
thanx
Rob Wideman
mrboboo@home.com
------=_NextPart_000_0019_01C007B0.AB108900-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 16 17:39:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1778237B9A6 for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:39:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.69.47]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA2FB; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:41:39 -0700 Message-ID: <399B33A8.B5FBB536@acuson.com> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 17:36:56 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: MrBoboo Cc: "newbie @ freebsd" Subject: Re: info on gnome/gtk+ References: <001c01c007da$940822c0$71aa1518@mesqt1.tx.home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > MrBoboo wrote: > > i have been reading up on gnome and gtk+ and only a few places put > them together. all i want is to install gnome (havent yet done > that.....dont have a dedicated box for it yet) and gtk+. > do i have to have something else installed like enlightenment?? i am > just wondering b/c only places like www.gtk.org (which only states > that it needs is the xwindow system and associated libraries), > in order to have gnome is there anything else i need to have in order > to run GTK+??? GNOME requires a GNOME compliant window manager. These include, among others, enlightenment, sawmill/sawfish, and windowmaker. Of the three, I think that sawmill/sawfish works the best with GNOME in terms of aesthetics, etc. As for the name, it used to be called sawmill, but they had to change the name to sawfish. You version of FreeBSD might call it by either name. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Aug 16 23:55:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from alpha.vaxxine.com (alpha.vaxxine.com [209.5.212.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49CD937B56D for ; Wed, 16 Aug 2000 23:55:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from paulcb@vaxxine.com) Received: from vaxxine.com (ppp45.digi-t3.st-cath.niagara.net [209.5.215.45]) by alpha.vaxxine.com (8.9.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA07111 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 02:55:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <399B8C6A.CD0B7728@vaxxine.com> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 02:55:38 -0400 From: Paul Boyle X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: bash and kde Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am new to FreeBSD. I have just instlled FreeBSD,and have Bash running for root. I have the promt changed the way I like it, but the chnnge does not show up when KDE is running. Any ideas as to how to fix this. Thank you. paulcb... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 17 8:38: 0 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AF9637B680 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 08:37:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rothstein.demon.co.uk ([194.222.159.246] helo=rothstein.co.uk) by anchor-post-30.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13PRjm-0005Bj-0U for FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.org; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:37:46 +0100 Received: from pc20 [1.0.0.123] by rothstein.co.uk [194.222.159.246] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.84.R) for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:31:32 +0100 Received: by pc20 with Microsoft Mail id <01C00868.94307AC0@pc20>; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:31:22 +0100 Message-ID: <01C00868.94307AC0@pc20> From: Tony Balazs To: "'FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.org'" , "'FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.org'" Subject: Apache as Proxy Server under 4.0 stable Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:31:21 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.org X-Return-Path: Tony@rothstein.co.uk Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Am I right in thinking that under 4.0 stable, Apache 1.3.11 will have installed with the Proxy Server module enabled? (The relevant files do seem to be there). I'm asking because the Complete FreeBSD does state that the module has to be added manually. The problem I'm having is that when trying to access the Internet from either the local machine or a remote machine (both via Apache) I'm getting an Apache error stating that I don't have permission to access the url, whereas dialling up directly without going via Apache works fine. I don't know what the error is indicative of; I have had either "all" or the specific IP address of the remote machine allowed in Apache, to no avail. Thanks for any help. Tony. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 17 9:21:17 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE3B37BCE7 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 09:21:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.69.47]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA981; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 09:23:22 -0700 Message-ID: <399C1061.2AB36143@acuson.com> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 09:18:41 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul.Newman@pgen.com Cc: jdunham@fc.net, freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Suggestions for Documentation References: <8025693E.002C3A70.00@WESTD90.pgen.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Paul.Newman@pgen.com wrote: > > One thing missig in the handbook is how to choose a window manager. There is > nothing about window managers You are right. It does need better coverage. In the meantime, there is www.plig.org/xwinman, which is a greate place to find out about *every* window manager that's currently supported. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 17 9:25: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30E437B6E1 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 09:25:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.69.47]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAAB8F; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 09:27:16 -0700 Message-ID: <399C114A.12360A84@acuson.com> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 09:22:34 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Paul Boyle Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: bash and kde References: <399B8C6A.CD0B7728@vaxxine.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Paul Boyle wrote: > > I am new to FreeBSD. > I have just instlled FreeBSD,and have Bash running for root. > I have the promt changed the way I like it, but the chnnge does not show > > up > when KDE is running. > Any ideas as to how to fix this. Quick question... Is your prompt set in .profile (or .bash_profile) or in .bashrc? Terminal windows such as kconsole or kvt will not read the .profile by default, but will read in .bashrc. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 17 9:41: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from quash.sdsi.com (quash.SDSI.COM [216.207.102.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C88C37BFEC for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 09:40:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from usexhq.lombard (usexhq.lombard [172.18.1.10]) by quash.sdsi.com (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA06374 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 11:40:51 -0500 (CDT) Received: by usexhq.lombard with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) id ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 11:36:45 -0500 Message-ID: From: "Bambrough, Thomas" To: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: FW: Proper location for starting daemons at the different init le vels Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 11:36:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2448.0) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Is there a description where one should put scripts and thing that you > want executed at the different init levels. > > Specifically, I'm looking for the location to place the DHCP server daemon > startup. Some say that should be in RC, but > when I look in there it thou shall not modify. Ideally I want to place it > where it will not be changed in an OS upgrade. > > Tom Bambrough > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 17 10: 7: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f122.law7.hotmail.com [216.33.237.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A371737B76C for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:01:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 10:01:49 -0700 Received: from 209.245.152.118 by lw7fd.law7.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 GMT X-Originating-IP: [209.245.152.118] From: "Bill Bunnell" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Installing Modem Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 17:01:49 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Aug 2000 17:01:49.0970 (UTC) FILETIME=[D59CFF20:01C0086C] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Can I please have some help installing a modem on my FreeBSD box. I would like a run down on what needs to be done, or a URL that outlines the process. Thanks, Bill B. ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 17 18:53: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.129.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA69F37BC36 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:50:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.smed.com (smtp.smed.com [12.20.51.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 286526E40D3 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 15:33:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpgate.shrmed.com (keymaster.smed.com [12.20.51.2]) by smtp.smed.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A03816174 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:32:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from iesa14.shrmed.com (iesa14.shrmed.com [10.1.99.114]) by smtpgate.shrmed.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA19188 for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:32:47 -0400 From: Joe.Warner@smed.com Received: from Deimos.smed.com (unverified) by iesa14.shrmed.com (Content Technologies SMTPRS 2.0.15) with SMTP id for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:32:43 -0400 Received: by Deimos.smed.com(Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.5 (863.2 5-20-1999)) id 8525693E.007BB5AD ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 18:31:14 -0400 X-Lotus-FromDomain: SMS To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Message-Id: <8525693E.007BB42B.00@Deimos.smed.com> Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2000 16:33:33 -0600 Subject: Netscape Cache Clearing Script MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Here's a great script you could create using Vi or your favorite text editor that clears out Netscape's cache. I created it with Vi, made it an executable and after running it, it took my space utilization from 50% down to 48% in a heartbeat. -----------------------------------CUT HERE--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- #!/bin/sh if ! (`ps wxu $USER | grep -q [n]etscape`) then echo "Clearing Netscape cache..." rm -rf ~/.netscape/cache/* fi echo "exiting..." ----------------------------------CUT HERE----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I get those UNIX Hot Tips http://www.ugu.com/sui/ugu/show?tip.today in my email every day from UNIX GURU UNIVERSE and this was one of them. The original script was made to work with the C shell but thanks to some help I got from David Scheidt, it now works with sh! P.S. - I know it would probably be easier to just turn off the caching in Netscape but...scripts can be fun. 8^) Cheers Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 17 23:13:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from beta.axon.ru (ns.axon.ru [194.8.189.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C56337B67E for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 23:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from itar.axon.ru (itar.axon.ru [194.8.189.126]) by beta.axon.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA95400 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:13:29 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from vadha@mail.ru) Received: from monitor (ip48.itar.axon.ru [192.168.129.48]) by itar.axon.ru (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e7I6DPa20006 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:13:29 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <005601c008db$a8addb00$3081a8c0@itartass.spb.ru> From: "Anthony I. Ivanov" To: Subject: Strange things Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:15:04 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all! Can somebody explain to me the following: I have fully operating FreeBSD 3.5 - STABLE box on P166/32Mb. When I swap hard drives from this computer to another P233/64Mb all is functioning correctly except networking. The symptoms are: long delays. My system stopped answering on ping queries, telnet sessions. But I'm still able to access outer world from this box. Anthony I. Ivanov. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Aug 17 23:24:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from beta.axon.ru (ns.axon.ru [194.8.189.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 709C837B43E for ; Thu, 17 Aug 2000 23:24:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from itar.axon.ru (itar.axon.ru [194.8.189.126]) by beta.axon.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA95613 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:24:31 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from vadha@mail.ru) Received: from monitor (ip48.itar.axon.ru [192.168.129.48]) by itar.axon.ru (8.10.1/8.10.1) with SMTP id e7I6OUa08603 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:24:30 +0400 (MSD) Message-ID: <006401c008dd$30d90ee0$3081a8c0@itartass.spb.ru> From: "Anthony I. Ivanov" To: Subject: IDE CDRW Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:26:06 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all! Is there any way to activate IDE CD-writer to FreeBSD box? I found in 3.2 - release notes that support for IDE CD- writers was introduced, also somewhere in Internet I found information, that CAM - support must be activated in kernel (done). Also there was a message from some guy, who said that "after a week I saw the light at the end of the tunnel and purchased SCSI-burner" :) - this way is unacceptable :)) System reports that acd1 device found and functioning properly. FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE. Anthony I. Ivanov To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 18 7: 3:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from maynard.mail.mindspring.net (maynard.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EA1E37B424 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 07:03:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from funisland.com (user-37ka9lg.dialup.mindspring.com [207.69.38.176]) by maynard.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA13971 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:03:46 -0400 (EDT) From: derek@funisland.com Message-ID: <399D4F28.B55E599E@funisland.com> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:58:49 -0500 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Unix Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Having to learn Solaris now. Anyone know of a forum like freebsd-newbies for solaris. The ones I have found are lame. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 18 7:15:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEB9137B43C for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 07:15:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rothstein.demon.co.uk ([194.222.159.246] helo=rothstein.co.uk) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 13Pmw4-000EAo-0W for FreeBSD-Newbies@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:15:53 +0100 Received: from pc20 [1.0.0.123] by rothstein.co.uk [194.222.159.246] with SMTP (MDaemon.v2.84.R) for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:03:54 +0100 Received: by pc20 with Microsoft Mail id <01C00925.7AC8E500@pc20>; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:03:34 +0100 Message-ID: <01C00925.7AC8E500@pc20> From: Tony Balazs To: 'FreeBSD Users' , 'FreeBSD-Newbies' , 'FreeBSD-Questions' Subject: Newbie: Mutt Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:03:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: FreeBSD-Newbies@FreeBSD.org X-Return-Path: Tony@rothstein.co.uk Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think that Mutt is installed on my 4.0-Stable. Where is the executable? I can't find a way of executing Mutt. Thanks. Tony. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 18 7:26: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from addr2.addr.com (addr.com [209.249.147.252]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9721937B424; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 07:25:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from drnet.fais.net (drnet.fais.net [208.249.141.31]) by addr2.addr.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA83620; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 07:25:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jwpauler@jwpages.com) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:24:41 -0500 (CDT) From: "Justin W. Pauler" X-Sender: jwpauler@drnet.fais.net To: Tony Balazs Cc: "'FreeBSD Users'" , "'FreeBSD-Newbies'" , "'FreeBSD-Questions'" Subject: Re: Newbie: Mutt In-Reply-To: <01C00925.7AC8E500@pc20> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org try whereis mutt this should produce something like mutt: /usr/local/bin/mutt that path isnt right, i dont think, i'm just guessing, i dont have mutt installed. but that command will tell you where it is at. --jwp Justin W. Pauler + Organization: JWPages Web Design + World Wide Web: http://www.jwpages.com/ + E-Mail: jwpauler@jwpages.com + Internet Relay Chat: drnet@undernet On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, Tony Balazs wrote: > I think that Mutt is installed on my 4.0-Stable. Where is the executable? > I can't find a way of executing Mutt. > Thanks. > > Tony. > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 18 7:31:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from genius.systems.pavilion.net (genius.systems.pavilion.net [212.74.1.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB1437B424; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 07:31:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: by genius.systems.pavilion.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 2229C9B2B; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:31:35 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:31:35 +0100 From: Josef Karthauser To: "Justin W. Pauler" Cc: Tony Balazs , 'FreeBSD Users' , 'FreeBSD-Newbies' , 'FreeBSD-Questions' Subject: Re: Newbie: Mutt Message-ID: <20000818153135.A35923@pavilion.net> References: <01C00925.7AC8E500@pc20> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jwpauler@jwpages.com on Fri, Aug 18, 2000 at 09:24:41AM -0500 X-NCC-RegID: uk.pavilion Organisation: Pavilion Internet plc, Lees House, 21-23 Dyke Road, Brighton, England Phone: +44-845-333-5000 Fax: +44-845-333-5001 Mobile: +44-403-596893 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Aug 18, 2000 at 09:24:41AM -0500, Justin W. Pauler wrote: > try > > whereis mutt > > this should produce something like > > mutt: /usr/local/bin/mutt It should be here. % whereis mutt mutt: /usr/local/bin/mutt /usr/local/man/man1/mutt.1.gz /usr/ports/mail/mutt Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 18 8:59: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from lindt.urgle.com (lindt.urgle.com [195.173.172.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B3DC37B423; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 08:59:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mike by lindt.urgle.com with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13PoX9-0009Id-00; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 16:58:15 +0100 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 16:58:15 +0100 From: Mike Bristow To: Tony Balazs Cc: 'FreeBSD Users' , 'FreeBSD-Newbies' , 'FreeBSD-Questions' Subject: Re: Newbie: Mutt Message-ID: <20000818165815.A35736@lindt.urgle.com> References: <01C00925.7AC8E500@pc20> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <01C00925.7AC8E500@pc20>; from tony@rothstein.co.uk on Fri, Aug 18, 2000 at 03:03:33PM +0100 X-Rated: quiche, clones, North Korea Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Aug 18, 2000 at 03:03:33PM +0100, Tony Balazs wrote: > I think that Mutt is installed on my 4.0-Stable. Where is the executable? > I can't find a way of executing Mutt. /usr/local/bin/mutt, probably, but it depends on how you installed it (from a package, from the ports, from a source tar-ball you downloaded somewhere random; etc etc). "find / -name mutt" will find it (and probably some other stuff) if it's not in /usr/local/bin/ -- Mike Bristow, seebitwopie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 18 9: 4:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from power.ib.pi.cnr.it (power.ib.pi.cnr.it [146.48.73.181]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3F31237B423; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 09:04:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from host10.4ua.com by power.ib.pi.cnr.it (AIX 3.2/UCB 5.64/4.03) id AA14031; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 06:44:14 +0200 Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 06:44:14 +0200 From: tim@communication411.com Message-Id: <966614204.dbcgof@dbcgof.mail.freeserv4u.com>. 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*NOTE* (All calls must be made within the Continental U.S.) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 18 10:12:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailc.telia.com (mailc.telia.com [194.22.190.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69CF337B422 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:12:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ents02 (t1o90p116.telia.com [195.67.216.116]) by mailc.telia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA20823; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 19:11:58 +0200 (CEST) From: "James A Wilde" To: , Subject: RE: Unix Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 19:14:35 +0200 Message-ID: <003e01c00937$c855c790$8208a8c0@iqunlimited.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: <399D4F28.B55E599E@funisland.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I haven't found anything on the Sun site. And I don't know of anything resembling the *newbie* conference. However, there is a newsgroup, comp.unix.solaris, which is okay for individual questions, and in fact seems to have roughly the same signal to noise ratio as freebsd-questions. If you hear of any good Solaris sites with fora, please let me know. All I have found so far are the ones with Solaris ports. mvh/regards James > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of > derek@funisland.com > Sent: Friday, August 18, 2000 16:59 > To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Unix > > > Having to learn Solaris now. Anyone know of a forum like > freebsd-newbies for solaris. The ones I have found are lame. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 18 10:19:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E30737B422 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:19:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.69.47]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA37D0; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:21:52 -0700 Message-ID: <399D6F91.D94BEBF0@acuson.com> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:17:05 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4m) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Anthony I. Ivanov" Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Strange things References: <005601c008db$a8addb00$3081a8c0@itartass.spb.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Anthony I. Ivanov" wrote: > I have fully operating FreeBSD 3.5 - STABLE box on P166/32Mb. > When I swap hard drives from this computer to another P233/64Mb all is > functioning correctly except networking. > > The symptoms are: long delays. My system stopped answering on ping queries, > telnet sessions. But I'm still able to access outer world from this box. That is strange! I would strongly suspect that the "system" is configured for one NIC and not the other. Are they the same? Different? I would look at kernel options, networking configs, etc. Check the ifconfig output for both boxes. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 18 10:28: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hellasnet.gr (mail.hellasnet.gr [212.54.192.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D9DB37B422 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 10:28:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hades.hell.gr (ppp2.patr.hellasnet.gr [212.54.197.17]) by mail.hellasnet.gr (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA27195; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 20:28:27 +0200 (GMT) Received: (from charon@localhost) by hades.hell.gr (8.10.2/8.10.2) id e7IHRuF03109; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 20:27:56 +0300 (EEST) Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 20:27:56 +0300 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: "Bambrough, Thomas" Cc: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: FW: Proper location for starting daemons at the different init le vels Message-ID: <20000818202756.A2942@hades.hell.gr> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: ; from tom.bambrough@windriver.com on Thu, Aug 17, 2000 at 11:36:42AM -0500 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 3A 75 52 EB F1 58 56 0D - C5 B8 21 B6 1B 5E 4A C2 X-URL: http://students.ceid.upatras.gr/~keramida/index.html Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Aug 17, 2000 at 11:36:42AM -0500, Bambrough, Thomas wrote: > > > Is there a description where one should put scripts and thing that you > > want executed at the different init levels. What runlevels? AFAIK, FreeBSD does not have the notion of runlevels. > > Specifically, I'm looking for the location to place the DHCP server daemon > > startup. Some say that should be in RC, but > > when I look in there it thou shall not modify. Ideally I want to place it > > where it will not be changed in an OS upgrade. You can put a System-V style script in /usr/local/etc/rc.d and the startup scripts of FreeBSD in /etc will take care of running it when the system boots. Note that the "upgrade procedure" does not usually touch /etc if you are updating your system with CVSup, and recompiling the world. You have to update your /etc manually, which means that you can also put any changes you like in /etc/rc and take care when upgrading. -- Giorgos Keramidas, For my public pgp2 key: finger -l keramida@diogenis.ceid.upatras.gr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 18 11: 6:16 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from utep.el.utwente.nl (utep.el.utwente.nl [130.89.30.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7AAD37B422 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 11:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tn.utwente.nl (uttnb55.tn.utwente.nl [130.89.74.55]) by utep.el.utwente.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA02009 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 20:06:11 +0200 Message-ID: <399D7B5E.C95CB028@tn.utwente.nl> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 20:07:26 +0200 From: "Andrei A. Dergatchev" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en,ru MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Unix References: <003e01c00937$c855c790$8208a8c0@iqunlimited.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I haven't found anything on the Sun site. Well, *if* one got some time, it won't hurt to read some books from System Administrator Collection (available in pdf format too) like those for 2.6 (haven't had the time to search for newest versions) http://docs.sun.com:80/ab2/products_C/INDEX/@ProductViewer/3507/*;td=1?Ab2Lang=C&Ab2Enc=iso-8859-1#CurrentPos > And I don't know of anything > resembling the *newbie* conference. However, there is a newsgroup, > comp.unix.solaris, which is okay for individual questions, and in fact seems > to have roughly the same signal to noise ratio as freebsd-questions. And newbies section of FreeBSD documentation has some useful pointers too (Solaris is Unix, after all :-) ) http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html#unix > > > If you hear of any good Solaris sites with fora, please let me know. All I > have found so far are the ones with Solaris ports. > > mvh/regards > > James Andrei To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 18 17:44: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from chupacabras.flash.net (chupacabras.flash.net [209.30.2.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED19C37B422 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 17:44:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from default (SNFCA020-0457.splitrock.net [63.253.7.203]) by chupacabras.flash.net (8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA08906 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 19:44:01 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <000801c00975$074415a0$cb07fd3f@default> From: "Ed Jeong" To: Subject: freebsd installation, ... Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 17:32:57 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0093A.5973FA60" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0093A.5973FA60 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 05:50 PM 08/18/00 Dear Sirs, Can you please direct me to the sites that would give basic information on what to expect when installing freebsd? Ie., how best to prepare for installation, minimum configuration, new user comments, etc. I have Win 98 - 2nd Edition. I know that the information is there somewhere among your many links, but the freebsd Web site and related sites is huge. I will order the freebsd CDROM and user guide this next week, but just wanted to prepare a little. Thanks. Ed Jeong, 415/468-8115 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0093A.5973FA60 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
05:50 PM   08/18/00
Dear Sirs,
Can you please direct me to the sites that would = give=20 basic information
on what to expect when installing freebsd?  = Ie., how=20 best to prepare for
installation, minimum configuration, new user = comments,=20 etc.
I have Win 98 - 2nd Edition.
I know that the information is there somewhere = among your=20 many links,
but the freebsd Web site and related sites is=20 huge.
I will order the freebsd CDROM and user guide = this next=20 week, but just
wanted to prepare a little.
Thanks.
Ed Jeong, 415/468-8115
 
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0093A.5973FA60-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 18 17:46:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from femail3.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail3.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E60737B423 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 17:46:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.com ([24.12.186.185]) by femail3.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000819004551.YHGO28670.femail3.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com>; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 17:45:51 -0700 Message-ID: <399D766C.80002A25@home.com> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 17:46:20 +0000 From: rob X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Anthony I. Ivanov" Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IDE CDRW References: <006401c008dd$30d90ee0$3081a8c0@itartass.spb.ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If you figure this out let me know, as notebooks don't have scsi cdrom drives. I have a wonderful Acer 602, but have to boot into w98 to burn cds. In linux they have what is called ide-scsi emulation which I have installed before. Rob. "Anthony I. Ivanov" wrote: > Hi all! > > Is there any way to activate IDE CD-writer to FreeBSD box? > I found in 3.2 - release notes that support for IDE CD- writers was > introduced, > also somewhere in Internet I found information, that CAM - support must be > activated in kernel (done). > Also there was a message from some guy, who said that "after a week I saw > the light at the end of the tunnel and purchased SCSI-burner" :) - this way > is unacceptable :)) > > System reports that acd1 device found and functioning properly. > > FreeBSD 3.5-STABLE. > > Anthony I. Ivanov > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 18 19:27:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 889DD37B43E for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 19:27:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA87731 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 12:30:10 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 12:30:10 +1000 (EST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200008190230.MAA87731@phoenix.welearn.com.au> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 18 19:35:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web6104.mail.yahoo.com (web6104.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.22.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C58937B422 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 19:35:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20000819023625.2932.qmail@web6104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.213.11.122] by web6104.mail.yahoo.com; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 19:36:25 PDT Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 19:36:25 -0700 (PDT) From: kvnwg Reply-To: kvnwg@yahoo.com Subject: ip firewall setting To: BSD-Newbie MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I compiled the IPFIREWALL into the kernel and set "ipfw add 65534 allow all from any to any" so that I can get access to the box through the net. Then I want to use the dummynet(4) to simulate the delay. But the pipe I added always has the same index with some other rules according to the output of "ipfw -a l" and is then ignored. Could any one give me some clues on how to play around with this. and, btw, are the fire rules scanned from high index to low index, or the opposite? Thanx for the time. ===== -- Cheer K __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send instant messages & get email alerts with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 18 22:18: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from glitch.crosswinds.net (glitch.crosswinds.net [209.208.163.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 410DA37B424 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 22:18:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ppp170-3640.vtc.ru (ppp170-3640.vtc.ru [212.16.193.170]) by glitch.crosswinds.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA05558 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 01:17:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ampy@crosswinds.net) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 16:28:50 +1100 From: Arseny Slobodjuck X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.36) S/N 555 Reply-To: Arseny Slobodjuck X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <14686.000819@crosswinds.net> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Installing Modem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Can I please have some help installing a modem on my FreeBSD box. I would >like a run down on what needs to be done, or a URL that outlines the >process. As I can understand, in FreeBSD there no such thing as installing the modem. The program communicates with device /dev/cuaa0 or cuaa1 ( as I remember it's name) sends commands and handles modem output itself. However, to dial an ISP you need a PPP running. Do you mean you need help to configure PPP ? PS. How do I send replies to messages in maillist, where I can write correspondent's name ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Aug 18 22:47:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9C7B37B424 for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 22:47:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from home.com ([24.12.186.185]) by femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20000819054721.ZSQZ8556.femail4.sdc1.sfba.home.com@home.com> for ; Fri, 18 Aug 2000 22:47:21 -0700 Message-ID: <399DBD1F.DD0B76C@home.com> Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 22:48:00 +0000 From: rob X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: irc # Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org So where do FreeBSD newbies hand out on IRC? Rob. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 19 3:30: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from bga.com (mail5.realtime.net [205.238.128.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E6A837B424 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 03:30:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from john ([204.181.162.73]) by bga.com ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 05:30:04 -0600 Message-Id: <3.0.6.32.20000819053900.01b0c500@bga.com> X-Sender: outlawtx@bga.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.6 (32) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 05:39:00 -0500 To: "Ed Jeong" From: outlawtx@bga.com Subject: Re: freebsd installation, ... Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <000801c00975$074415a0$cb07fd3f@default> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Ed, Be sure to get Greg Lehey's book, The Complete Freebsd. I couldn't have installed freebsd without it. Sincerely, Don Austin, Texas At 05:32 PM 8/18/2000 -0700, you wrote: > 08/18/00 Dear Sirs, Can you please direct me to the sites that would >give basic information Ie., how best to prepare for installation, >minimum configuration, new user comments, etc. I have Win 98 - 2nd >Edition. I know that the information is there somewhere among your many >links, but the freebsd Web site and related sites is huge. I will order >the freebsd CDROM and user guide this next week, but just wanted to >prepare a little. Thanks. Ed Jeong, 415/468-8115 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 19 4:15:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu (mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu [128.146.111.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D7DE37B422 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 04:15:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from math.mps.ohio-state.edu (math.mps.ohio-state.edu [128.146.111.30]) by mathserv.mps.ohio-state.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e7JBFET09253 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 07:15:15 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from rishi@localhost) by math.mps.ohio-state.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e7JBFEk29373 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 07:15:14 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 07:15:14 -0400 From: Rishikesh To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Real Player Message-ID: <20000819071514.A29022@math.mps.ohio-state.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I want to install Real Player 7 on my machine (running FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE.). I when I try to install it, it stops with the error message Error: category linux is not in the list of valid categories. Can you guys tell me what to do? Thanks in advance. Please Cc the reply to me. I am not on the mailing list. Rishi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 19 4:23:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 439BF37B422 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 04:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moritz.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p46.dialin.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.46]) by f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA112120; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 13:21:23 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moritz.alleswirdgelber (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00586; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 13:15:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 13:15:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@moritz.alleswirdgelber To: rob Cc: "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: irc # In-Reply-To: <399DBD1F.DD0B76C@home.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There is a channel #freebsd, but you could also check and ask things on #macintosh. But as allways, its the sound, that makes the music. And both are not specific newbie channels. On Fri, 18 Aug 2000, rob wrote: > So where do FreeBSD newbies hand out on IRC? Rob. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 19 4:23:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5244937B423 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 04:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from moritz.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p46.dialin.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.46]) by f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA112122; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 13:21:24 +0200 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moritz.alleswirdgelber (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00588; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 13:19:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 13:19:37 +0200 (CEST) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@moritz.alleswirdgelber To: Ed Jeong Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: freebsd installation, ... In-Reply-To: <000801c00975$074415a0$cb07fd3f@default> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Ed. > Can you please direct me to the sites that would give basic information > on what to expect when installing freebsd? Ie., how best to prepare for I think its all covered in the "handbook", that comes with the CD, /usr/share/doc after installation. There is a socalled "live filesystem" on the CD #2, that you might want to check before. Good luck ! H. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 19 4:29:10 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.sunesi.net (ns1.sunesi.net [196.15.192.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39F7237B424 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 04:29:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nbm by ns1.sunesi.net with local (Exim 3.03 #1) id 13Q6nv-000FrW-00; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 13:28:47 +0200 Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 13:28:47 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Heiko Recktenwald Cc: rob , "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: irc # Message-ID: <20000819132847.A60952@mithrandr.moria.org> References: <399DBD1F.DD0B76C@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de on Sat, Aug 19, 2000 at 01:15:23PM +0200 Organization: Sunesi Clinical Systems X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat 2000-08-19 (13:15), Heiko Recktenwald wrote: > There is a channel #freebsd, but you could also check > and ask things on #macintosh. But as allways, its the sound, that makes > the music. And both are not specific newbie channels. #FreeBSD on Undernet, perhaps. Don't try ask questions on #FreeBSD on EFnet. Try #FreeBSDHelp on EFnet, if you must use EFnet. And don't come crying if some IRC people are mean. We, I mean, they, just are. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner Sunesi Clinical Systems nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 19 8: 7:57 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f200.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10E7D37B422 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 08:07:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 08:07:55 -0700 Received: from 63.23.15.237 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.23.15.237] From: "Jason La" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Samba Question Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 08:07:55 PDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Aug 2000 15:07:55.0940 (UTC) FILETIME=[410A4640:01C009EF] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org When I try to map the network drive, Windows tells me that the password is incorrect. But, I am absolutely sure that it is correct on the FBSD server. I have installed the Samba pkg that comes with FBSD 4.0. I have done smbpasswd -a jasonla, and I have configured the smb.conf file. My Windows machine is configured and I have restarted it. Still, same problem. Thanks, Jason La jasonla_@hotmail.com ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 19 10:16:59 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from slkcpop2.slkc.uswest.net (slkcpop2.slkc.uswest.net [206.81.128.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D73C237B423 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 10:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 90207 invoked by alias); 19 Aug 2000 17:16:55 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org@fixme Received: (qmail 90198 invoked by uid 0); 19 Aug 2000 17:16:54 -0000 Received: from badialup161.slkc.uswest.net (HELO uswest.net) (63.225.236.161) by slkcpop2.slkc.uswest.net with SMTP; 19 Aug 2000 17:16:54 -0000 Message-ID: <399EC01A.706D6837@uswest.net> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 11:12:58 -0600 From: Joe Warner X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jason La Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Samba Question References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jason, I'm assuming that you're trying to connect to your Samba server via WIN NT? If so, you need to go into the registry and add a key that enables plaintext passwords. You can find information on how to do this in /usr/local/share/doc/samba. Also, the easiest way I've found to configure Samba, is by using SWAT. It's included when you install Samba. Take a look at /usr/local/share/doc/samba/README.swat It will tell you how to use SWAT. Cheers Joe Jason La wrote: > When I try to map the network drive, Windows tells me that the password is > incorrect. But, I am absolutely sure that it is correct on the FBSD server. > > I have installed the Samba pkg that comes with FBSD 4.0. I have done > smbpasswd -a jasonla, and I have configured the smb.conf file. My Windows > machine is configured and I have restarted it. Still, same problem. > > Thanks, > Jason La > jasonla_@hotmail.com > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- FreeBSD = The Power to Serve ..Simply put = FreeBSD Rocks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 19 17:52: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f244.law9.hotmail.com [64.4.9.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 773BD37B42C for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 17:52:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 17:52:05 -0700 Received: from 141.151.17.195 by lw9fd.law9.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Sun, 20 Aug 2000 GMT X-Originating-IP: [141.151.17.195] From: "David Calkins" To: FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: PCMCIA net card, kernel config file format Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 20:52:05 EDT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 20 Aug 2000 00:52:05.0274 (UTC) FILETIME=[DC1237A0:01C00A40] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've installed FreeBSD 4 to my laptop. I have a PCMCIA LinkSys EC2T network card. I dug around and learned that I should be able to use the NE2000 driver, which is 'ed'. This should be doable, but I think the problem is that I'm not specifying things correctly in my kernel config file. What is the correct way (format, arguments) to specify a PCMCIA net card in the config file? It seems to accept the PCMCIA controller. The boot messages contain: pcic-pci0: at device 19.0 on pci0 But it doesn't seem to see the network card. ifconfig is unaware of it. If someone has a similar situation working (PCMCIA network card), I'd love to see the appropriate sections of your kernel config file. Obviously, the addresses, etc. may be different, but it would let me know the correct format to get the PCMCIA controller online, and then have the network driver properly connected to it. Thanks :-) David Calkins David_Calkins@hotmail.com ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 19 18:12:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7006E37B43E for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 18:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SoftGuitar@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v27.12.) id n.62.677c21f (4228) for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 21:12:12 -0400 (EDT) From: SoftGuitar@aol.com Message-ID: <62.677c21f.26d08a6b@aol.com> Date: Sat, 19 Aug 2000 21:12:11 EDT Subject: set color To: FreeBSD-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 118 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can anyone tell me if there is a method to setting screen color and print color on Free BSD ?? I am able to do it with SCO Unix but it does not seem to work with Free BSD OS 4.0........... Thanks Jesse To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Aug 19 20:50:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sentry.granch.com (sentry.granch.com [212.109.197.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D90FD37B423 for ; Sat, 19 Aug 2000 20:50:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from shelton@localhost) by sentry.granch.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA39954; Sun, 20 Aug 2000 10:53:38 +0700 (NOVST) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <399EC01A.706D6837@uswest.net> Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2000 10:53:38 +0700 (NOVST) Reply-To: "Rashid N. Achilov" Organization: Granch Ltd. From: "Rashid N. Achilov" To: Joe Warner Subject: Re: Samba Question Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, Jason La Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 19-Aug-00 Joe Warner wrote: > > I'm assuming that you're trying to connect to your Samba server via WIN > NT? If so, you need to go into the registry and add a key that enables > plaintext passwords. You can find information on how to do this in > /usr/local/share/doc/samba. > I think, plaintext password is A BIG HOLE in network security. I'd recommend use it only when you absolutely sure, that nobody can steal/snoop/catch/listen (or other many methods :-) ) your traffic. If you aren't sure, you have to read DOMAIN_CONTROL.txt, ENCRYPTION.txt, NTDOMAIN.txt and Passwords.txt (and Samba doc catalog contained many other useful hints :-) ), which describes how to use encrypted native NT passwords. If you have NT domain controller, you can include Samba computer into NT domain and now it will be check passwords through NT server. -- With Best Regards. Rashid N. Achilov (RNA1-RIPE), Brainbench ID: 28514, Granch Ltd. lead engineer e-mail: achilov@granch.ru, tel (383-2) 24-2363 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message