From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Nov 5 4:40:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DF1437B479; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 04:40:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA94596; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 13:40:28 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: David Johnson Cc: "SILVER, MICHAEL A" , "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" , "'freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: BSD Magazine (Potential Advertisers) References: <39DB891F.4B09AB1A@acuson.com> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 05 Nov 2000 13:40:28 +0100 In-Reply-To: David Johnson's message of "Wed, 04 Oct 2000 12:46:39 -0700" Message-ID: Lines: 19 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David Johnson writes: > Speaking of Kylix, this just reminded me. The Kylix interface will be > Qt, and so will Opera's. I recall in a interview somewhere that Opera is > going to be ported to FreeBSD (and every other Unix) shortly after the > official release of the Linux version because "all we have to do is > recompile". Someone should contact Opera, as well as Trolltech. Hmm, I got a job offer from Opera a couple of months back, they wanted me to work on (amongst other things) Unix porting. Unfortunately, I had to turn that offer down as I didn't want to quit my current job. I cant tell you it was not easy to turn that offer down :( The Opera for Linux beta is quite usable, though it segfaults a lot (at least on FreeBSD). Opera is the only (relatively) sane graphical browser I know of, so I'm very anxious to see a Unix version ship. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Nov 5 15:53:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from correo.unnet.es (correo.unnet.es [193.146.59.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4739437B4CF for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 15:53:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from horus (62.83.47.130) by correo.unnet.es (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.81) with SMTP id ; Mon, 06 Nov 2000 00:52:40 +0100 Message-ID: <010a01c04783$3f1a25e0$0101a8c0@horus> From: "Javier S. Llera" To: Subject: Keyboard on installation Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 00:50:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi to all, this is the first message im sending to this list, and the question is.. Im installing 4.1.1 version from a cd i have burned with "el torito" boot support enabled, and before all tne initial messages i got a beatifull screen with several options to start installing the system, but neither my keyboard or mouse works... I have took a look at the messages that appears while the installation is loading modules.. etc, and my keyboard seems to be detected...its a normal PS/2 keyboard from acer... on a pII 350 Mhz with a iwill BD100..normal system.. Any ideas??? Thanks for your attention, hope youll be able to understand all (nedd to improve my english skills :-) ) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Nov 5 19: 3: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from medusa.mminternet.com (medusa.mminternet.com [216.86.201.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0286837B4C5 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:03:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mminternet.com (adsl-gte-la-216-86-193-252.mminternet.com [216.86.193.252]) by medusa.mminternet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA16130 for ; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 19:08:50 -0800 Message-ID: <3A05BCBC.4030603@mminternet.com> Date: Sun, 05 Nov 2000 20:02:04 +0000 From: click46 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE i386; en-US; m17) Gecko/20000922 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Custom Kernel Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org After using FreeBSD for about 2 weeks now, I've decided to delve into compiling my own kernel. I run off an Abit BP6 with (2) Celeron 433's and 320MB RAM. The BP6 has an onboard UltraATA 66 controller made my Highpoint [HPT366]. With my GENERIC install, it probes on startup and atapci1 and atapci2 are "set" [?] to my Highpoint controller. Flipping through my "The Complete FreeBSD" I couldn't find a "value" or whatnot to specifically set for compiling my custom kernel. My questions: 1) What exactly does the stuff the probe on startup mean? 2) atapci1 & 2 are called ____ 3) Is there a way to capture the output of the probe? Do I even care? 4) Am I wasting my time here? I'm still not certain whether or not I need to even care about this. However in The Complete FreeBSD, Greg mentions that one of the key points to having a custom kernel is so that it loads faster, not having to probe. Thanks for any help you can provide. I'm looking forward to saving up for an $80 FreeBSD jacket so I can be THE nerd on campus =) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 6 11:23:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from webmail6.catholic.org (webmail6.catholic.org [63.196.163.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCC2237B479 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:23:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by webmail6.catholic.org (8.10.1/8.10.1) id eA6JNXP13260; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 19:23:33 GMT Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 19:23:33 GMT Message-Id: <200011061923.eA6JNXP13260@webmail6.catholic.org> From: "" To: FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe FreeBSD-newbies X-Sending-IP: 209.181.104.114 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe FreeBSD-newbies -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 6 11:49:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from aristotle.networkintelligence.com (unknown [38.196.126.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AE7B37B479 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 11:49:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from satx.rr.com (mogul [192.168.2.199]) by aristotle.networkintelligence.com (8.9.0/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA03998; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:49:17 -0600 Message-ID: <3A070B3E.E0DC5ADC@satx.rr.com> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 13:49:18 -0600 From: Jason Hunt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: daemon@catholic.org Cc: FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD questions. References: <200011061923.eA6JNXP13260@webmail6.catholic.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings, is there a better method than syscons to have a nicer looking console mode? I am used to be spoiled with linux and the user of a frame buffer device at 1024x768 at 24bit color depth, and would like to get something close to it in FreeBSD.. I have tried using vidcontrol -mode VESA_800x600, but it wouldn't work on my machine - using a GeForce DDR as the video card. I am not talking about in X, so there is no confusion.. I have been using slackware for a long time, and I am very interested in learning FreeBSD now. Thanks for any help. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 6 13:43:32 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from aristotle.networkintelligence.com (unknown [38.196.126.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A44E37B4C5 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:43:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from satx.rr.com (mogul [192.168.2.199]) by aristotle.networkintelligence.com (8.9.0/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA04701 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 15:43:27 -0600 Message-ID: <3A0725FF.27F63651@satx.rr.com> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 15:43:27 -0600 From: Jason Hunt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: bash question.. References: <200011061923.eA6JNXP13260@webmail6.catholic.org> <3A070B3E.E0DC5ADC@satx.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings.. I have this in my .bashrc alias h history 25 alias j jobs -l alias la ls -a alias lf ls -FA alias ll ls -lA and none of it works.. if I use csh, and my .cshrc has the abover information it works fine.. is .bashrc not the file where I should put this information? thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 6 13:44:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from aristotle.networkintelligence.com (unknown [38.196.126.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 318D837B4C5 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:44:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from satx.rr.com (mogul [192.168.2.199]) by aristotle.networkintelligence.com (8.9.0/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA04705 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 15:44:47 -0600 Message-ID: <3A07264F.59139E62@satx.rr.com> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 15:44:47 -0600 From: Jason Hunt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bash question.. References: <200011061923.eA6JNXP13260@webmail6.catholic.org> <3A070B3E.E0DC5ADC@satx.rr.com> <3A0725FF.27F63651@satx.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jason Hunt wrote: > > Greetings.. > > I have this in my .bashrc > > alias h history 25 > alias j jobs -l > alias la ls -a > alias lf ls -FA > alias ll ls -lA > > nevermind.. I am an idiot.. wrong format for bash.. sorry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 6 13:46:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from heorot.1nova.com (sub24-23.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.24.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13C4537B4FE for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:46:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8CFCA326E; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 14:09:53 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A07D326C; Sun, 5 Nov 2000 14:09:53 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sun, 5 Nov 2000 14:09:53 +0000 (GMT) From: Rick Hamell To: Jason Hunt Cc: FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bash question.. In-Reply-To: <3A0725FF.27F63651@satx.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Please ask all technical and how-to questions in -questions. That is what is for. -Newbies is technically more of a chat list then a technical list. You may also want to check out many of the links on my help web page listed below. Rick ******************************************************************* Rick's FreeBSD Web page http://heorot.1nova.com/freebsd Ace Logan's Hardware Guide http://www.shatteredcrystal.net/hardware ***FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! http://www.freebsd.org On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, Jason Hunt wrote: > Greetings.. > > I have this in my .bashrc > > alias h history 25 > alias j jobs -l > alias la ls -a > alias lf ls -FA > alias ll ls -lA > > and none of it works.. if I use > csh, and my .cshrc has the > abover information it works fine.. > is .bashrc not the file where I > should put this information? > > thanks > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 6 13:47: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtprelay3.adelphia.net (smtprelay3.adelphia.net [64.8.25.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E35237B4E5 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:47:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from pa-westmifflin1a-530.pit.adelphia.net ([24.48.239.18]) by smtprelay3.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G3MHR700.5AG; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:45:07 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:41:12 -0500 (EST) From: pW X-Sender: packetwhore@beastie To: Jason Hunt Cc: FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bash question.. In-Reply-To: <3A0725FF.27F63651@satx.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org it should be in the format: alias h='history 25' alias j='jobs -l' and so on... shawn On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, Jason Hunt wrote: > Greetings.. > > I have this in my .bashrc > > alias h history 25 > alias j jobs -l > alias la ls -a > alias lf ls -FA > alias ll ls -lA > > and none of it works.. if I use > csh, and my .cshrc has the > abover information it works fine.. > is .bashrc not the file where I > should put this information? > > thanks > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 6 13:50: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from aristotle.networkintelligence.com (unknown [38.196.126.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1031E37B4D7 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:50:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from satx.rr.com (mogul [192.168.2.199]) by aristotle.networkintelligence.com (8.9.0/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA04737 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 15:49:56 -0600 Message-ID: <3A072784.6D281BE7@satx.rr.com> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 15:49:56 -0600 From: Jason Hunt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bash question.. References: <200011061923.eA6JNXP13260@webmail6.catholic.org> <3A070B3E.E0DC5ADC@satx.rr.com> <3A0725FF.27F63651@satx.rr.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jason Hunt wrote: > > Greetings.. > > I have this in my .bashrc > > alias h history 25 > alias j jobs -l > alias la ls -a > alias lf ls -FA > alias ll ls -lA > well shit.. I changed the alias stuff to the correct format: alias h='history 25', but it seems .bashrc is still not executed at start of login.. is .bashrc not the correct file? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 6 13:51:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtprelay1.adelphia.net (smtprelay1.adelphia.net [64.8.25.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C9637B4C5 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:51:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from pa-westmifflin1a-530.pit.adelphia.net ([24.48.239.18]) by smtprelay1.adelphia.net (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G3MHYJ00.OF1; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:49:31 -0500 Date: Mon, 6 Nov 2000 16:45:38 -0500 (EST) From: pW X-Sender: packetwhore@beastie To: Jason Hunt Cc: FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bash question.. In-Reply-To: <3A072784.6D281BE7@satx.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org you can try putting it in .bash_profile or .profile too... try executing the bash command and then try the aliases... shawn On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, Jason Hunt wrote: > Jason Hunt wrote: > > > > Greetings.. > > > > I have this in my .bashrc > > > > alias h history 25 > > alias j jobs -l > > alias la ls -a > > alias lf ls -FA > > alias ll ls -lA > > > > > well shit.. I changed the alias > stuff to the correct format: > > alias h='history 25', but > it seems .bashrc is still not executed > at start of login.. is .bashrc not > the correct file? > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 6 13:52: 9 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from aristotle.networkintelligence.com (unknown [38.196.126.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D9E37B4C5 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 13:52:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from satx.rr.com (mogul [192.168.2.199]) by aristotle.networkintelligence.com (8.9.0/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA04759; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 15:52:01 -0600 Message-ID: <3A072802.4BCA5F12@satx.rr.com> Date: Mon, 06 Nov 2000 15:52:02 -0600 From: Jason Hunt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rick Hamell Cc: FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bash question.. post to -question References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rick Hamell wrote: > > Please ask all technical and how-to questions in -questions. That > is what is for. -Newbies is technically more of a chat list then a > technical list. You may also want to check out many of the links on my > help web page listed below. > thanks for the info.. I will post questions of this type in the correct area.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 6 22:51:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (unknown [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC03D37B4C5 for ; Mon, 6 Nov 2000 22:51:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA21219; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:50:23 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:50:19 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: Jason Hunt Cc: FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bash question.. Message-ID: <20001107175012.D327@welearn.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: Jason Hunt , FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200011061923.eA6JNXP13260@webmail6.catholic.org> <3A070B3E.E0DC5ADC@satx.rr.com> <3A0725FF.27F63651@satx.rr.com> <3A072784.6D281BE7@satx.rr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <3A072784.6D281BE7@satx.rr.com>; from Jason Hunt on Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 03:49:56PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 03:49:56PM -0600, Jason Hunt wrote: > > it seems .bashrc is still not executed > at start of login.. is .bashrc not > the correct file? See the bash man page for the long story on the different ways you can make it work. It might help to download the following two old example files and try them out (use both or neither!) after backing up your own versions and renaming mine with the customary dot. Then see if you can use the man page to explain what you have observed. They're near the bottom of this ancient and unmaintained web page*: http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/slow/ (Disclaimer: No guarantee they won't turn your computer into a Macintosh Classic, kill your first-born, destroy your enjoyment of pizza, etc) If you have any followup questions about how it works, try freebsd-questions. If you want to discuss the usefulness (or otherwise) of such files for newbies, you're very welcome to do that here :-) -- Regards, -*Sue*- * BTW, don't bother looking for that fvwm2rc, I never put it up because I'm still not quite happy with it yet. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 7 17:56:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from chopin.cmax2.com (chopin.cmax2.com [4.21.205.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0505A37B479 for ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 17:56:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from ciscokid ([10.101.37.3] [10.101.37.3] ) by chopin.cmax2.com (Hethmon Brothers Smtpd) ; Tue, 7 Nov 2000 21:56:47 +0000 Message-ID: <000801c04928$05b5e4a0$0325650a@cmax2.com> From: "ciscokid" To: Subject: Date: Tue, 7 Nov 2000 21:01:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C048FD.F6695D80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C048FD.F6695D80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I can't get my xserver to go to a small resolution .....it is like = 400-320.....I have entered mysetting for it Horizontal, 30 to 85kHz; Vertical, 50Hz to 130Hz and i have a diamond stealth III s540 but it will not get any smaller if you can help me out i would = appreciate it ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C048FD.F6695D80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I can't get my xserver to go to a small = resolution=20 .....it is like 400-320.....I have entered mysetting for it
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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C048FD.F6695D80-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 8 0:51: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 741E937B4C5 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 00:51:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from pool0001.cvx16-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net (pool0001.cvx16-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net [209.179.50.1]) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA11652; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 00:50:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 00:55:27 -0800 (PST) From: Barry Lew X-Sender: bwlew@darkstar.example.net To: Jason Hunt Cc: FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bash question.. In-Reply-To: <3A0725FF.27F63651@satx.rr.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I believe .bashrc executes for nonlogin shells (i.e., when you su into another user). .bash_profile executes whenever you login. Simply copy .bashrc into .bash_profile, and you should have your settings whether you login or su. On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, Jason Hunt wrote: > Greetings.. > > I have this in my .bashrc > > alias h history 25 > alias j jobs -l > alias la ls -a > alias lf ls -FA > alias ll ls -lA > > and none of it works.. if I use > csh, and my .cshrc has the > abover information it works fine.. > is .bashrc not the file where I > should put this information? > > thanks > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 8 2:14: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.altayerdxb.net (unknown [195.229.53.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A63D37B479 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 02:13:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from notesmail.altayerdxb.net (altayernotes [192.168.2.1]) by mail.altayerdxb.net (8.8.5/8.7.2) with SMTP id OAA01016; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 14:08:12 +0400 Received: from ho-ad-01.atg.altayer.com ([10.1.2.23]) by notesmail.altayerdxb.net (Lotus SMTP MTA v4.6.2 (693.3 8-11-1998)) with SMTP id 44256991.0038F2A9; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 14:22:01 +0400 Received: from EXCHANGE1.atg.altayer.com ([10.1.2.30]) by ho-ad-01.atg.altayer.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.1600); Wed, 8 Nov 2000 14:11:46 +0400 content-class: urn:content-classes:message Subject: RE: bash question.. Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 14:11:45 +0400 Message-ID: <2C9DB6D1616E784BB788F1CBAD33A2F3F561@EXCHANGE1.atg.altayer.com> X-MS-Has-Attach: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: bash question.. Thread-Index: AcBJbExwZCG5lbL/QG+rUBqJ45z+Ww== From: "Rino Mardo" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4417.0 To: "Barry Lew" , "Jason Hunt" Cc: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Nov 2000 10:11:46.0718 (UTC) FILETIME=[4D37EBE0:01C0496C] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org in your ~/.bash_profile, use "source ~/.bashrc" so that it reads the ~/.bashrc file. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Barry Lew > Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 12:55 PM > To: Jason Hunt > Cc: FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: bash question.. >=20 >=20 > I believe .bashrc executes for nonlogin shells (i.e., when you su into > another user). .bash_profile executes whenever you login. =20 > Simply copy > .bashrc into .bash_profile, and you should have your settings whether > you login or su. >=20 >=20 > On Mon, 6 Nov 2000, Jason Hunt wrote: >=20 > > Greetings.. > >=20 > > I have this in my .bashrc > >=20 > > alias h history 25 > > alias j jobs -l > > alias la ls -a > > alias lf ls -FA > > alias ll ls -lA > >=20 > > and none of it works.. if I use > > csh, and my .cshrc has the > > abover information it works fine.. > > is .bashrc not the file where I=20 > > should put this information? > >=20 > > thanks > >=20 > >=20 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 8 3:10:48 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from caxton.correionet.com.br (caxton.correionet.com.br [200.188.128.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB7137B479 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 03:10:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from coster.psinet.com.br (coster.correionet.com.br [200.188.128.60]) by caxton.correionet.com.br (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id eA8B9mE06936 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 09:09:49 -0200 (BRST) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20001108090628.00a8b110@mailhost.correionet.com.br> X-Sender: willi@mailhost.correionet.com.br X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 09:10:27 -0200 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG From: William Candido de Oliveira Subject: Disk rescue ! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Pessoal, Por gentileza, alguem saberia me dizer, como faco para criar um disco de emergencia ! Eu possui um CD do FREE 4.1 ! Qual arquivo seria ! Thanks. William To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 8 5:22:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from aristotle.networkintelligence.com (unknown [38.196.126.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8213337B479 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 05:22:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from satx.rr.com (mogul [192.168.2.199]) by aristotle.networkintelligence.com (8.9.0/8.9.1) with ESMTP id HAA12253; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 07:22:05 -0600 Message-ID: <3A09537D.34C7FF87@satx.rr.com> Date: Wed, 08 Nov 2000 07:22:05 -0600 From: Jason Hunt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rino Mardo Cc: Barry Lew , FreeBSD-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, vhunt@satx.rr.com Subject: Re: bash question.. References: <2C9DB6D1616E784BB788F1CBAD33A2F3F561@EXCHANGE1.atg.altayer.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rino Mardo wrote: > > in your ~/.bash_profile, use "source ~/.bashrc" so that it reads the > ~/.bashrc file. > thanks for that bit of information, really helpful. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 8 6:36:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web5302.mail.yahoo.com (web5302.mail.yahoo.com [216.115.106.111]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4C3E837B479 for ; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 06:36:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20001108143655.1141.qmail@web5302.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [202.155.2.186] by web5302.mail.yahoo.com; Wed, 08 Nov 2000 06:36:55 PST Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 06:36:55 -0800 (PST) From: edy susanto Subject: subscribe To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. 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All in one Place. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 8 14:38:27 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ux11.cso.uiuc.edu (ux11.cso.uiuc.edu [128.174.5.105]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70D0C37B479; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 14:38:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost by ux11.cso.uiuc.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id eA8McDe21151; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 16:38:13 -0600 (CST) X-Authentication-Warning: ux11.cso.uiuc.edu: eheine owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 16:38:13 -0600 (CST) From: erich alfred heine X-Sender: eheine@ux11.cso.uiuc.edu To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: kernel compilation errors Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have been having problems recompling the kernel. I am building a 4.1.1 kernel on a PII box w/ 128MB ram, a 3c900-TPO ethernet card, a matrox millenium g200 vid card, and a SoundBlaster AWE64 sound card. This is the error i am recieving: /usr/src/sys/pci/if_xl.c:130: miibus_if.h: No such file or directory mkdep: compile failed *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOMK1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Does this mean that my source code is incomplete? how do i get teh file in question? also this is my config file, with all the irrelevant parts cut out (scsi etc) machine i386 #cpu I386_CPU #cpu I486_CPU #cpu I586_CPU cpu I686_CPU ident CUSTOMK1 maxusers 64 #makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols #options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device #options NFS #Network Filesystem #options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem #options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] #options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options EXT2FS #ext2 support# device isa #device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 # ATA and ATAPI devices #device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 #device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives #device atapist # ATAPI tape drives #options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? options VESA #Support Vesa vidmodes # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? #options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Power management support (see LINT for more options) device apm0 at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management # Serial (COM) ports device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5 device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer #device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da # PCI Ethernet NICs. #device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') #device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) #device tx # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'') #device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') #device wx # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'') # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. #device miibus # MII bus support #device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes #device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 #device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'') #device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016 #device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX) #device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN #device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II #device wb # Winbond W89C840F device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated. pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support #pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. pseudo-device pty 64 # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) pseudo-device md # Memory "disks" pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) pseudo-device speaker #Play IBM BASIC-style noises out your speaker pseudo-device gzip #Exec gzipped a.out's # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter # USB support #device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface #device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device usb # USB Bus (required) device ugen # Generic device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" #device ukbd # Keyboard device ulpt # Printer #device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da #device ums # Mouse # USB Ethernet, requires mii #device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet #device cue # CATC USB ethernet #device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet #Sound card support, supposedly works with AWE 64 device pcm thanks Erich Heine To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 8 14:45:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ultra.comspace.com (209-16-25-2.insync.net [209.16.25.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D19937B479; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 14:45:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from danield (cs16255-247.houston.rr.com [24.162.55.247]) by ultra.comspace.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA16632; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 16:45:06 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <03a901c049d5$75fc3ae0$cd2710d1@comspace.com> From: "Daniel Domengeaux" To: "erich alfred heine" , Cc: References: Subject: Re: kernel compilation errors Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 16:44:01 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org you will need to uncomment this line in your config file device miibus # MII bus support all the NICs under that section require MII bus support inorder to work -daniel ----- Original Message ----- From: "erich alfred heine" To: Cc: Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2000 4:38 PM Subject: kernel compilation errors | Hi, | | I have been having problems recompling the kernel. I am building a 4.1.1 | kernel on a PII box w/ 128MB ram, a 3c900-TPO ethernet card, a matrox | millenium g200 vid card, and a SoundBlaster AWE64 sound card. | | This is the error i am recieving: | | /usr/src/sys/pci/if_xl.c:130: miibus_if.h: No such file or directory | mkdep: compile failed | *** Error code 1 | | Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOMK1. | *** Error code 1 | | Stop in /usr/src. | *** Error code 1 | | Does this mean that my source code is incomplete? how do i get teh file in | question? | | also this is my config file, with all the irrelevant parts cut out | (scsi etc) | | machine i386 | #cpu I386_CPU | #cpu I486_CPU | #cpu I586_CPU | cpu I686_CPU | ident CUSTOMK1 | maxusers 64 | | #makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug | symbols | | #options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation | options INET #InterNETworking | options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols | options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem | options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep | this!] | options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support | options MFS #Memory Filesystem | options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device | #options NFS #Network Filesystem | #options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS | required | options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem | options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem | #options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 | required | options PROCFS #Process filesystem | options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP | THIS!] | #options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI | options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console | options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor | options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor | options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support | options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory | options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues | options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores | options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time | extensions | options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING | options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies | options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev | options EXT2FS #ext2 support# | | | device isa | #device eisa | device pci | | # Floppy drives | device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 | device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 | | # ATA and ATAPI devices | #device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 | #device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 | device ata | device atadisk # ATA disk drives | device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives | device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives | #device atapist # ATAPI tape drives | #options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering | options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices | | | | # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse | device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD | device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 | device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 | | device vga0 at isa? | options VESA #Support Vesa vidmodes | # splash screen/screen saver | pseudo-device splash | | # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console | device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 | | # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver | #device vt0 at isa? | #options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt | console | #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor | # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT | lines | #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std | | # Floating point support - do not disable. | device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 | | # Power management support (see LINT for more options) | device apm0 at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power | Management | | | # Serial (COM) ports | device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 | device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 | device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5 | device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9 | | # Parallel port | device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 | device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) | device lpt # Printer | #device plip # TCP/IP over parallel | device ppi # Parallel port interface device | #device vpo # Requires scbus and da | | | # PCI Ethernet NICs. | #device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') | #device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, | 82558) | #device tx # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'') | #device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') | #device wx # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card | (``Wiseman'') | | # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. | #device miibus # MII bus support | #device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes | #device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 | #device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'') | #device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS | 7016 | #device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX) | #device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN | #device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II | #device wb # Winbond W89C840F | device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') | | | # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated. | pseudo-device loop # Network loopback | pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support | #pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP | pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP | pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. | pseudo-device pty 64 # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) | pseudo-device md # Memory "disks" | pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling | pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) | pseudo-device speaker #Play IBM BASIC-style noises out your | speaker | pseudo-device gzip #Exec gzipped a.out's | | # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. | # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! | pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter | | # USB support | #device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface | #device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface | device usb # USB Bus (required) | device ugen # Generic | device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" | #device ukbd # Keyboard | device ulpt # Printer | #device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and | da | #device ums # Mouse | # USB Ethernet, requires mii | #device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet | #device cue # CATC USB ethernet | #device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet | | #Sound card support, supposedly works with AWE 64 | device pcm | | thanks | Erich Heine | | | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 8 15:52:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8A1F37B479; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:52:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id eA8NqDr29884; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:52:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:52:13 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein To: erich alfred heine Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel compilation errors Message-ID: <20001108155213.C5112@fw.wintelcom.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: ; from eheine@students.uiuc.edu on Wed, Nov 08, 2000 at 04:38:13PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * erich alfred heine [001108 14:38] wrote: > > This is the error i am recieving: > > /usr/src/sys/pci/if_xl.c:130: miibus_if.h: No such file or directory > mkdep: compile failed > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOMK1. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Does this mean that my source code is incomplete? how do i get teh file in > question? > > also this is my config file, with all the irrelevant parts cut out > (scsi etc) Including 'miibus' which is needed. Please don't remove things you that you're unsure about what they do. -Alfred To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 8 17: 4:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from gw.carpoolbc.com (cr45465-a.abtsfd1.bc.wave.home.com [24.113.176.126]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59FC537B479; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 17:04:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (roop@localhost) by gw.carpoolbc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA09238; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 17:04:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from roop@gw.carpoolbc.com) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 17:03:20 -0800 (PST) From: Roop Nanuwa To: erich alfred heine Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernel compilation errors In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 8 Nov 2000, erich alfred heine wrote: > Hi, > > I have been having problems recompling the kernel. I am building a 4.1.1 > kernel on a PII box w/ 128MB ram, a 3c900-TPO ethernet card, a matrox > millenium g200 vid card, and a SoundBlaster AWE64 sound card. > > This is the error i am recieving: > > /usr/src/sys/pci/if_xl.c:130: miibus_if.h: No such file or directory > mkdep: compile failed > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOMK1. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Does this mean that my source code is incomplete? how do i get teh file in > question? > > also this is my config file, with all the irrelevant parts cut out > (scsi etc) > > machine i386 > #cpu I386_CPU > #cpu I486_CPU > #cpu I586_CPU > cpu I686_CPU > ident CUSTOMK1 > maxusers 64 > > #makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug > symbols > > #options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation > options INET #InterNETworking > options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols > options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem > options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep > this!] > options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support > options MFS #Memory Filesystem > options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device > #options NFS #Network Filesystem > #options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS > required > options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem > options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem > #options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 > required > options PROCFS #Process filesystem > options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP > THIS!] > #options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI > options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console > options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor > options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor > options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support > options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory > options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues > options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores > options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time > extensions > options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING > options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies > options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev > options EXT2FS #ext2 support# > > > device isa > #device eisa > device pci > > # Floppy drives > device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 > device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 > > # ATA and ATAPI devices > #device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 > #device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 > device ata > device atadisk # ATA disk drives > device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives > device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives > #device atapist # ATAPI tape drives > #options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering > options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices > > > > # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse > device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD > device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 > device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 > > device vga0 at isa? > options VESA #Support Vesa vidmodes > # splash screen/screen saver > pseudo-device splash > > # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console > device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 > > # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver > #device vt0 at isa? > #options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt > console > #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor > # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT > lines > #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std > > # Floating point support - do not disable. > device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 > > # Power management support (see LINT for more options) > device apm0 at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power > Management > > > # Serial (COM) ports > device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 > device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 > device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5 > device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9 > > # Parallel port > device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 > device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) > device lpt # Printer > #device plip # TCP/IP over parallel > device ppi # Parallel port interface device > #device vpo # Requires scbus and da > > > # PCI Ethernet NICs. > #device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') > #device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, > 82558) > #device tx # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'') > #device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') > #device wx # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card > (``Wiseman'') > > # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. > > Stop in /usr/obj/usr/src/sys/CUSTOMK1. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 You're missing the MII bus code because: > # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. > #device miibus # MII bus support ^^^ it's commented out.. take out the # and recompile > #device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes > #device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 > #device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'') > #device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS > 7016 > #device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX) > #device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN > #device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II > #device wb # Winbond W89C840F > device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') RSN To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Nov 9 0: 0: 7 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from andrsn.stanford.edu (andrsn.Stanford.EDU [171.66.112.163]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B06F37B479 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 00:00:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (andrsn@localhost.stanford.edu [127.0.0.1]) by andrsn.stanford.edu (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id XAA99609; Wed, 8 Nov 2000 23:52:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 8 Nov 2000 23:52:39 -0800 (PST) From: Annelise Anderson To: click46 Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Custom Kernel Questions In-Reply-To: <3A05BCBC.4030603@mminternet.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 5 Nov 2000, click46 wrote: > After using FreeBSD for about 2 weeks now, I've decided to delve into > compiling my own kernel. I run off an Abit BP6 with (2) Celeron 433's > and 320MB RAM. The BP6 has an onboard UltraATA 66 controller made my > Highpoint [HPT366]. With my GENERIC install, it probes on startup and > atapci1 and atapci2 are "set" [?] to my Highpoint controller. > > Flipping through my "The Complete FreeBSD" I couldn't find a "value" or > whatnot to specifically set for compiling my custom kernel. My questions: > > 1) What exactly does the stuff the probe on startup mean? > 2) atapci1 & 2 are called ____ > 3) Is there a way to capture the output of the probe? Do I even care? Yes, you care. The probe tells you what FreeBSD finds when it boots. It is captured automatically; you can see what it found with the dmesg command. Beyond that, you've got two great sources for compiling a custom kernel: The Complete FreeBSD and the handbook, available on your hard drive (read the message displayed on boot) and on the web site. Annelise > 4) Am I wasting my time here? I'm still not certain whether or not I > need to even care about this. However in The Complete FreeBSD, Greg > mentions that one of the key points to having a custom kernel is so that > it loads faster, not having to probe. > > Thanks for any help you can provide. I'm looking forward to saving up > for an $80 FreeBSD jacket so I can be THE nerd on campus =) > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Nov 9 14:44:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.anet.cz (mail.anet.cz [212.65.193.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C50F37B479 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 14:44:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from palitko (neco.cesnet.cz [194.212.70.171]) by mail.anet.cz (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A70F5204A for ; Thu, 09 Nov 2000 23:44:11 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <076901c04a9e$93d45bf0$0101a8c0@palitko> From: "Petr Murmak" To: Subject: Unable to change date/time Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 23:44:04 +0100 Organization: ARTUM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4029.2901 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4029.2901 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I installed FreeBSD 4.1.1 from burned ISO image. I tried to change or time, but I was not successfull. When I wrote for example: # date 0001 system response: Fri Nov 10 00:01:00 CET 2000 but immediately after that I wrote: # date and system response: Fri Nov 10 00:34:40 CET 2000 And in /var/log/messages i found: Nov 10 00:34:38 test /kernel: Time adjustment clamped to -1 second Nov 10 00:34:38 test date: date set by petr I'm logged as petr, but su to root. Any suggestions? Petr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Nov 9 15:35:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.mailstart.com (mail.mailstart.com [207.231.76.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6870337B479 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 15:35:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from throach [207.231.76.140] by mail.mailstart.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A4D5A075009C; Thu, 09 Nov 2000 15:35:49 -0800 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Cc: From: "Rob Laurente" Subject: Message-Id: <091100314.56150@webbox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain content-length: 132 Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2000 15:35:51 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe freebsd-announce ------ Geek.com WebBox - http://www.geek.com A free service provided by WebBox - http://webbox.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Nov 9 16:15: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from shiva.art-service.net.ua (shiva.art-service.net.ua [194.44.107.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62CFA37B479 for ; Thu, 9 Nov 2000 16:14:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from raccoon@localhost) by shiva.art-service.net.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) id CAA69787 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 02:14:49 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from raccoon) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 02:14:49 +0200 From: Vladimir Melnik To: All Subject: XFree86 Message-ID: <20001110021449.A5888@irpin.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello. I've just installed XFree86 from /ports, but when I trying to run startx, I got just it: Authentication failed - cannot start X server. Perhaps you do not have console ownership? What it seems to be? Thanks. -- V.Melnik To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 10 13:12:20 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AFF137B479; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 13:12:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (ipamzlx.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.54]) by ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.1/8.11.0) with ESMTP id eAALDp703900; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 22:13:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Fri, 10 Nov 2000 22:13:51 +0100 (CET) From: "O. Hartmann" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: XDM/X11 remote problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Sirs, I have some little problems with XDM, IP Firewall (maybe) and remote displays. I set up some diskless clients and I setup up a display server, from which the diskless client takes its kernel and get its chooser. When doing an indirect query to our computer center's chooser host, I can obtain a login from any host I can select in chooser, but I can not do the same when serving a chooser out of on of our machines, although I configured it to serve the same hosts as the computer center! When doing a direct query I could obtain any display from these appropriate hosts, but not when selecting them by the chooser. Maybe this ist some kind of foolish installation, I use IPFIREWALL but opened all UDP connections through our local LAN so this should not the reason. Can anybody imaging what's going wrong? It would be nice if there could be a helpful hint or tip, thanks in advance for your help, Oliver - MfG O. Hartmann ------------------------------------------------------------------- ohartman@ipamzlx.physik.uni-mainz.de Klimadatenserver-Abteilung des IPA IT Netz- und Systembetreuung Johannes Gutenberg-Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 D-55099 Mainz BRD/Germany Tel: +496131/3924662 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 10 17:28:51 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CEF137B479 for ; Fri, 10 Nov 2000 17:28:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA47248 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:30:15 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 12:30:15 +1100 (EST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200011110130.MAA47248@phoenix.welearn.com.au> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message