From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Nov 19 1:43:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from bne003m.webcentral.com.au (horizon3.webcentral.com.au [202.139.235.99]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2BE7C37B479 for ; Sun, 19 Nov 2000 01:43:19 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 27902 invoked from network); 19 Nov 2000 09:43:14 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warhawk) (203.147.160.132) by horizon3.webcentral.com.au with SMTP; 19 Nov 2000 09:43:14 -0000 From: "Haikal Saadh" To: "ML Duke" , Cc: Subject: RE: Here's an idea... Date: Sun, 19 Nov 2000 19:47:04 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for the help, guys... I managed to fix the prob my editing /usr/share/examples/ppp/ppp.conf.sample. I edited the ppp.conf file that came with /etc/ppp/, and to be honest, I can't see the difference between the two. Even the chat script...except one works and one doesn't. I've gotten that box running as a http proxy now...it even autodials :). Score one for the good guys! >-----Original Message----- >From: ML Duke [mailto:mlduke@concentric.net] >Sent: Sunday, 19 November 2000 5:09 AM >To: Haikal Saadh >Subject: Re: Here's an idea... > > >> So here's an idea: Hows about someone have a site >> somewhere we can submit our ppp.conf files, so that >> other people can look up which config works for which ISP? > >Relative to ISP's, a script follows below that you >may (or may not) find interesting. > >ML Duke > >Begin script: > >#!/bin/sh >/usr/sbin/pppd connect '/usr/bin/chat -v ABORT BUSY "" \ > \\dATE0Q0 OK ATS7=60S38=40 OK \ > ATDTphone# CONNECT "" ser: mlduke@ppp word: password' \ > /dev/cuaa1 57600 crtscts \ > modem lock debug netmask 255.255.255.0 \ > noipdefault defaultroute >exit 0 > >Then it disconnects as follows: > >#!/bin/sh > >DEVICE=ppp0 ># ># If the ppp0 pid file is present then the program is running. Stop it. >if [ -r /var/run/$DEVICE.pid ]; then > kill -INT `cat /var/run/$DEVICE.pid` ># ># If unsuccessful, ensure that the pid file is removed. ># > if [ ! "$?" = "0" ]; then > echo "removing stale $DEVICE pid file." > rm -f /var/run/$DEVICE.pid > exit 1 > fi ># ># Success. Terminate with proper status. ># > echo "$DEVICE link terminated" > exit 0 >fi ># ># The link is not active ># >echo "$DEVICE link is not active" >exit 1 > >Here's the /etc/ppp/ppp.conf file that goes with it >(slightly edited for obvious reasons). >It's not pretty--but it works. >################################################################# ># ># PPP Sample Configuration File ># ># Written by Toshiharu OHNO ># ># $Id: ppp.conf.sample,v 1.5.2.6 1997/05/12 14:08:52 brian Exp $ ># >################################################################# > ># Default setup. Always executed when PPP is invoked. ># > default: > set device /dev/cuaa1 > set speed 57600 > set dial "ABORT BUSY ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 \"\" >AT&B1&C1&D2&K3&S0&M4S0=0537=0 \\dATDT\\T TIMEOUT 40 CONNECT" > pop3.concentric.net > set phone "phone#" > set login "TIMEOUT 10 gin:-BREAK-gin: -u username -p password : >ppp" > set timeout 120 > deny lqr > setifaddr 207.155.184.72 206.173.119.72 > delete ALL > add 0 0 HISADDR ># Example with login script ># o From PPP prompt, ># ppp> dial simplesite ># automatically dials and performs the login script. ># ># ppp> load simplesite ># loads and executes commands, but doesn't dial. ># ># o From shell, invoke as ># % ppp simplesite ># to load commands associated with the 'simplesite' label. Use, ># ppp> dial ># to establish the connection. ># >#simplesite: ># set phone 12345678 ># set login "TIMEOUT 5 login:-\\r-login: ppp word: ppp ocol: ppp" ># set timeout 120 > ># Multi-phone example ># >multiphone: > set phone 12345678:12345679:12345670:12345671 > set login "TIMEOUT 5 login:-\\r-login: ppp word: ppp ocol: ppp" > ># If the peer requires to use CHAP, don't forget to supply authname ># and authkey. ># ># If you'd like to use CHAP to authenticate with the peer, comment out ># the line ``enable chap'' below. You also need to prepare /etc/ppp.secret. ># ># If the remote system sends its system name within the CHAP packet and it ># is found in /etc/ppp.secret, then the secret key is taken from that file ># and value of authkey specified here is ignored. ># >#chapsite: ># set phone 12345678 ># set login "TIMEOUT 5 login:-\\r-login: ppp word: ppp" ># deny pap ># accept chap ># enable chap ># set authname MySystemName ># set authkey OurSecretKey > ># Speaking PAP is like speaking CHAP ># >#papsite: ># set phone 12345678 ># set login "TIMEOUT 5 login:-\\r-login: ppp word: ppp" ># deny chap ># accept pap ># enable pap ># set authname MyUserName ># set authkey MyPassword > ># On demand dialup example ># Here, we assume that local side use 192.244.185.226 and ># remote side use 192.244.176.44 as their IP address. ># You must supply -auto option to invoke PPP. ># ># $ ppp -auto ondemand ># >#ondemand: ># set phone 1234567 ># set login "TIMEOUT 5 login:-\\r-login: ppp word: ppp" ># set timeout 120 ># set ifaddr 192.244.185.226 192.244.176.44 255.255.255.0 ># add 0 0 192.244.176.44 > ># Another on demand example ># If the peer assigns us an arbitrary IP and we can't predict what their ># IP will be either, take a wild guess at an some IPs that you can't ># currently route to. Ensure that the "delete" and "add" lines are also ># present in ppp.linkup so that when we connect, things will be >put straight. ># Note that it is illegal to use HISADDR here - HISADDR is only available ># in ppp.linkup (after the value has been established). ># ># The /0 bit says that we insist on 0 bits of the specified IP actually ># being correct, therefore, the other side can assign any IP numbers. ># ># We also set openmode active - this makes us initiate ppp negotiation. ># The default is to wait for the server to start talking. ># >pmdemand: > set phone 1234567 > set login "TIMEOUT 5 login:-\\r-login: ppp word: ppp" > set timeout 120 > set ifaddr 10.0.0.1/0 10.0.0.2/0 255.255.255.0 > delete ALL > add 0 0 10.0.0.2 > set openmode active > ># Examples to connect using a null-modem cable from one machine to another. ># The important thing here is to allow the lqr packets on both sides. ># Without them enabled, we can't tell if the line's dropped - there ># should always be carrier on a direct connection. ># Here, the server sends lqr's every 10 seconds and quits if three in a ># row fail. ># ># Make sure you don't have "deny lqr" in your default: on the client ! ># >direct-client: > set dial "" > set line /dev/cuaa0 > set sp 115200 > set timeout 900 > set debug Phase Chat LQM > set login "TIMEOUT 5 -\\r-login:-\\r-login: ppp word: ppp HELLO" > set ifaddr 10.0.4.2 10.0.4.1 > add 10.0.4.2 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 > >direct-server: > set timeout 900 10 3 > set debug Phase LQM > set ifaddr 10.0.4.1 10.0.4.2 > add 10.0.4.1 255.255.255.255 127.0.0.1 > ># Example to validate incoming user with CHAP ># Invoke as ``ppp -direct users'' from login script. User's system name ># and secret-key must be registered into /etc/ppp.secret. ># IP address assigned to peer is registered in ppp.secret, then that ># value is used and value in ``ifaddr'' command has no effect. ># >users: > disable pap > enable chap > enable proxy > set authname ppp-server > set ifaddr 192.244.176.44 292.244.184.31 > ># Example of Callback Request ># ># Here, we assume that peer will hangup the line and initiates a callback ># after successful authentication. We simply use chat script capability ># and wait for a "NO CARRIER" response from our modem. ># ># $ ppp callback ># >callback: > set phone 0312345678 > set login "ABORT NO\\sCARRIER TIMEOUT 5 login:-\\r-login: MyName >word: MySecret TIMEOUT 20 DUMMY" > set debug phase chat > dial > quit > ># Example for PPP/TELNET and PPP/TCP. Read doc for further details ># >ppptelnet: > set escape 0xff > >ppptcp: > set device 192.244.191.33:2400 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 20 7:10:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.lal3.zyan.com (unix.lal3.zyan.com [64.248.60.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 76F0537B4CF for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:10:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 16563 invoked from network); 20 Nov 2000 15:10:50 -0000 Received: from node-64-249-233-181.dslspeed.zyan.com (HELO OrganizedKaos) (64.249.233.181) by smtp.lal3.zyan.com with SMTP; 20 Nov 2000 15:10:50 -0000 From: "John R Krepps" To: Subject: Using .iso Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 09:11:04 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I am attempting to make an installation CD using the *.iso file, but am afraid I am unable to figure out how to use the file to make the CD. All apologies for this question, as I am certain that the answer is simple Thanks much John Krepps FreeBSD/Unix Absolute Newbie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 20 7:15:26 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp24.singnet.com.sg (smtp24.singnet.com.sg [165.21.101.204]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C8FF37B479; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:15:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from netserver01 (ad202.166.107.245.magix.com.sg [202.166.107.245]) by smtp24.singnet.com.sg (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id eAKFHWD73057; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:17:32 +0800 (SGT) Message-Id: <3.0.32.20001120231534.01428780@smtp.magix.com.sg> X-Sender: spades@smtp.magix.com.sg X-Mailer: Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0 (32) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:15:34 +0800 To: From: Spades Subject: Upgrade 3.5-stable to 4.2-stable Cc: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How do i upgrade from FreeBSD 3.5-stable to FreeBSD 4.2-stable to an office server on a network? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 20 7:19: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from beethoven.singa.pore.net (beethoven.singa.pore.net [202.156.1.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9567E37B4C5; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:19:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from sleipnir (mcns46.docsis24.singa.pore.net [202.156.24.46]) by beethoven.singa.pore.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA22987; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:19:45 +0800 (SST) Message-ID: <000701c05305$3681ec00$2e189cca@sleipnir> From: "James Lim" To: , "Spades" Cc: References: <3.0.32.20001120231534.01428780@smtp.magix.com.sg> Subject: Re: Upgrade 3.5-stable to 4.2-stable Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:19:00 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 4.2 release is just out as i am typing here. ? just do a cvsup and later make world, buildkernel and installkernel www.mostgraveconcern.com has some good tutorials to guide u thru 3.x to 4.x ----- Original Message ----- From: "Spades" To: Cc: Sent: Monday, November 20, 2000 11:15 PM Subject: Upgrade 3.5-stable to 4.2-stable > How do i upgrade from FreeBSD 3.5-stable to FreeBSD 4.2-stable > to an office server on a network? > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 20 7:38:34 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from challenger.petrosys.com (challenger.petrosys.com [38.156.76.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A888237B4CF for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:38:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from petrosys.com (nephthys.petrosys.com [38.156.76.4]) by challenger.petrosys.com (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.4.0.1999.06.13.00.20) with ESMTP id <0G4B0014KY1QB6@challenger.petrosys.com> for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 09:37:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 09:38:56 -0600 From: shoe latif Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Macintosh To: Sven Bentlage Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <3A19458F.97BEACB0@petrosys.com> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (WinNT; I) Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT X-Accept-Language: en References: Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org the new mac os x is supposed to have been built on freebsd. i think it's worth checking out. last time i checked i think it was still in beta. i only got to play with it for a little while, i actually was wondering where you would make kernel modifications like for natd, i couldn't find the kernel. then again i wasn't looking too hard. shoe Sven Bentlage wrote: > Hi! > I“m a total newbie to FreeBSD. So some questions might have been asked > before, but I“d still be grateful for answers- > 1. is there any way to run FreeBSD on a Macintosh (iMac, G3 400 Mhz, 64 MB > RAM)? > 2. Is there any support for ADSL? > 3. Where can I find detailed explanations abot FreeBSD firewalls? And can I > run a FreeBSD system on a 486 PC? > > Thanks for answering my questions. > > Sven To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 20 7:46:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.microsoft.com (mail2.microsoft.com [131.107.3.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 35AC437B479 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:46:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from 157.54.9.104 by mail2.microsoft.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:46:47 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Received: by INET-IMC-02 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2651.58) id ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:46:46 -0800 Message-ID: From: Willy Evans To: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: problem with install Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:46:39 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2651.58) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm installing Free BSD for the first time, using the two floppies. Everything happens according to Hoyle up till the point I leave the config. and never gets to the SYSINSTALL menu. Is there some step in the procedure I'm missing? Thanks, Willy Evans To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 20 7:49:14 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.microsoft.com (mail2.microsoft.com [131.107.3.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CBE3A37B479 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:49:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from 157.54.9.104 by mail2.microsoft.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:49:11 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time) Received: by INET-IMC-02 with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2651.58) id ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:49:10 -0800 Message-ID: From: Willy Evans To: "'freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org'" Subject: problem with install Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2000 07:48:36 -0800 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2651.58) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org restating and correcting typo I'm installing Free BSD for the first time, using the two floppies. Everything happens according to Hoyle up till the point I leave the config. It asks for a reboot and never gets to the SYSINSTALL menu. Is there some step in the procedure I'm missing? Thanks, Willy Evans To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 20 8:45:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from goblin.apana.org.au (goblin.apana.org.au [203.3.126.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C74437B4C5 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 08:45:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by goblin.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id CAA01592; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 02:45:18 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from dougy.apana.org.au(203.3.126.131), claiming to be "dougy" via SMTP by goblin.apana.org.au, id smtpdMP1590; Tue Nov 21 02:45:11 2000 Message-ID: <003301c05312$64aadd50$837e03cb@dougy> From: "Doug Young" To: "John R Krepps" , References: Subject: Re: Using .iso Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 02:53:18 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yeah it IS simple like most things in unix ...... providing of course you manage to stumble across someone who has had the same experience recently :) The ONLY way I've been able to do it is with Adaptec Ezy CD Creator .... its got a special setting for exactly that purpose. If you are burning ISO images from Windows 2000 you'll need version 3.5c or later (don't even attempt to install earlier versions or they will give BSOD's on booting !!!!). I dunno about Win98 though, maybe earlier ones work OK then. ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R Krepps" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 1:11 AM Subject: Using .iso > Hello, I am attempting to make an installation CD using the *.iso file, but > am afraid I am unable to figure out how to use the file to make the CD. > All apologies for this question, as I am certain that the answer is simple > > > Thanks much > John Krepps > FreeBSD/Unix Absolute Newbie > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 20 23:46:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B9337B4C5 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:46:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from moritz.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p239.dialin.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.239]) by f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA536938; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 08:42:56 +0100 Received: from localhost (uzs106@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moritz.alleswirdgelber (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA00363; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 00:49:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 00:49:11 +0100 (CET) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@moritz.alleswirdgelber To: shoe latif Cc: Sven Bentlage , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Macintosh In-Reply-To: <3A19458F.97BEACB0@petrosys.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > run a FreeBSD system on a 486 PC? Yes, easily. I think Sue Blake is an expert in running it on 386 ;-) H. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Nov 20 23:57:40 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from goblin.apana.org.au (goblin.apana.org.au [203.3.126.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7063737B479 for ; Mon, 20 Nov 2000 23:57:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by goblin.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id RAA02564; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 17:56:48 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from dougy.apana.org.au(203.3.126.131), claiming to be "dougy" via SMTP by goblin.apana.org.au, id smtpdxJ2562; Tue Nov 21 17:56:37 2000 Message-ID: <00d801c05391$bbae9cc0$837e03cb@dougy> From: "Doug Young" To: "Heiko Recktenwald" , "shoe latif" Cc: "Sven Bentlage" , References: Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Macintosh Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 18:04:32 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We've got a few prehistoric 3336 (386) Unisys systems (the big desktop case ones that weigh at least 100Kg) with 16 x 30 pin RAM slots) running FreeBSD 4.x / sendmail / apache / FTP / etc & never had a problem with them. They have internal 33600 ISA modems to get around the old UARTS, but thats the sum total of new parts used. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Heiko Recktenwald" To: "shoe latif" Cc: "Sven Bentlage" ; Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 9:49 AM Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Macintosh > > > run a FreeBSD system on a 486 PC? > > Yes, easily. I think Sue Blake is an expert in running it on 386 ;-) > > H. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 21 1:20: 6 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (unknown [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DBD737B4C5 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 01:19:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA03739; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 20:13:29 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 20:13:27 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: Heiko Recktenwald Cc: shoe latif , Sven Bentlage , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: slow is beautiful [was: FreeBSD on Macintosh] Message-ID: <20001121201325.A377@welearn.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: Heiko Recktenwald , shoe latif , Sven Bentlage , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3A19458F.97BEACB0@petrosys.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: ; from Heiko Recktenwald on Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 12:49:11AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 12:49:11AM +0100, Heiko Recktenwald wrote: > > > run a FreeBSD system on a 486 PC? > > Yes, easily. I think Sue Blake is an expert in running it on 386 ;-) Within limits, yes. I don't recommend it, though, unless you are willing and able to spend hours giving it TLC and already have the skills to do so without outside help. It runs better with very old versions of FreeBSD, which requires a lot of hand-updating to keep up with security, and means you can't install recent versions of software packages, only what came on the CD, and that too has security implications. So "don't try this at home kids" unless you just want to learn a bit of unix on a system that will never be networked (no modem or ethernet connection etc). Running a recent FreeBSD version on a 486 is probably something like running earlier versions on a 386. With some care in the setting up it'll make a fine router/nameserver machine, and with ongoing maintenance it can also be a great little mail and web server for a home or small business network. If it's in your bedroom it's a versatile alarm clock as well. Make cron your friend and add the PC speaker to the kernel some time when you're going out so that it gets a chance to do the compiling without you there watching the clock. If you're running on small ancient hardware, ditch all thoughts of GUI, have as much memory as you can and a ridiculously large amount of swap, I guess 50 megs more than RAM (I've got 100 and that's more than I need). Avoid running majordomo or anything that causes perl to flog the disk, don't bother trying to compile stuff, put the radio on to entertain you during the wait for man pages to format for display, and clear out of there just before 2am or you'll be deaf by morning. Once you get in the swing of it, running a slow machine is like meditating. You might even start to enjoy the change of pace. Think of it as your country house where there is time to relax and enjoy the essence of unadorned unix. Remember that the machine is not there to amuse you; you are there to support the machine and to delight in each new puppy-dog achievement. Once you've been a contented 386 or 486 user for a while, your friends will start to notice. When you upgrade to a very low end pentium you'll be able to do just about anything your heart desires, GUI and all. Just don't neglect RAM and never never skimp on swap space. If you're using FreeBSD to learn unix and you have a very old machine, it will be good for your education. It's interesting to see how much more time some things take than others, without having to run a separate program to measure the small differences that you could not perceive on a faster computer. This makes a slow machine a good place to learn shell scripting, for example. I've been running a 386 at home since when they were fashionable, but at work I look after huge alpha servers. I'm sure I run these powerful monsters well because of having spent years forced to listen to what the heart of each machine is saying just to make the bloody thing run. It's a whole different approach, and you can apply it anywhere, even to people. -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 21 1:22:25 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (unknown [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06F8537B479 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 01:22:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id UAA03762; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 20:17:20 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 20:17:18 +1100 From: Sue Blake To: Doug Young Cc: Heiko Recktenwald , shoe latif , Sven Bentlage , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Macintosh Message-ID: <20001121201716.B377@welearn.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: Doug Young , Heiko Recktenwald , shoe latif , Sven Bentlage , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <00d801c05391$bbae9cc0$837e03cb@dougy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.95.4i In-Reply-To: <00d801c05391$bbae9cc0$837e03cb@dougy>; from Doug Young on Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 06:04:32PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 06:04:32PM +1000, Doug Young wrote: > We've got a few prehistoric 3336 (386) Unisys systems (the big desktop case > ones that weigh at least 100Kg) with 16 x 30 pin RAM slots) running FreeBSD > 4.x / sendmail / apache / FTP / etc & never had a problem with them. They > have > internal 33600 ISA modems to get around the old UARTS, but thats the sum > total of new parts used. Wow! Maybe I'll shake the dust off and upgrade FreeBSD on my 386 to 4.x :-) -- Regards, -*Sue*- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 21 3:46:28 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from fr1.froggernet.com (fr1.froggernet.com [208.245.132.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38FDE37B4CF for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 03:46:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from boris (boris@pm3-h13-wny-045.modempools.net [64.30.154.60]) by fr1.froggernet.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id GAA29952 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 06:46:22 -0500 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 06:49:48 -0500 Message-ID: <01C05387.3DD2F620.boris@froggernet.com> From: "J. D. Kent" To: "freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: RE: slow is beautiful [was: FreeBSD on Macintosh] Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 06:49:41 -0500 X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thank you Sue! I just joined this list, don't even have a system up and running yet, and can't decide between FreeBSD or Linux. But what I wanted to say is that your outlook and encouragement are a welcome portal in a strange and brave new [computer] world. ========================================== J. David Kent Applying computer technology is simple. Just find the right wrench to pound in the correct screw. ========================================== On Tuesday, November 21, 2000 4:13 AM, Sue Blake [SMTP:sue@welearn.com.au] wrote: > On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 12:49:11AM +0100, Heiko Recktenwald wrote: > > > > run a FreeBSD system on a 486 PC? > > > > Yes, easily. I think Sue Blake is an expert in running it on 386 ;-) > > > > Within limits, yes. I don't recommend it, though, unless you are > willing and able to spend hours giving it TLC and already have the > skills to do so without outside help. > > It runs better with very old versions of FreeBSD, which requires a > lot > of hand-updating to keep up with security, and means you can't > install > recent versions of software packages, only what came on the CD, and > that too has security implications. So "don't try this at home kids" > unless you just want to learn a bit of unix on a system that will > never > be networked (no modem or ethernet connection etc). > > Running a recent FreeBSD version on a 486 is probably something like > running earlier versions on a 386. With some care in the setting up > it'll make a fine router/nameserver machine, and with ongoing > maintenance it can also be a great little mail and web server for a > home or small business network. If it's in your bedroom it's a > versatile alarm clock as well. Make cron your friend and add the PC > speaker to the kernel some time when you're going out so that it gets > a > chance to do the compiling without you there watching the clock. > > If you're running on small ancient hardware, ditch all thoughts of > GUI, > have as much memory as you can and a ridiculously large amount of > swap, > I guess 50 megs more than RAM (I've got 100 and that's more than I > need). > Avoid running majordomo or anything that causes perl to flog the disk, > > don't bother trying to compile stuff, put the radio on to entertain > you during the wait for man pages to format for display, and clear > out of there just before 2am or you'll be deaf by morning. > > Once you get in the swing of it, running a slow machine is like > meditating. You might even start to enjoy the change of pace. Think > of > it as your country house where there is time to relax and enjoy the > essence of unadorned unix. Remember that the machine is not there to > amuse you; you are there to support the machine and to delight in > each > new puppy-dog achievement. Once you've been a contented 386 or 486 > user > for a while, your friends will start to notice. > > When you upgrade to a very low end pentium you'll be able to do > just about anything your heart desires, GUI and all. Just don't > neglect RAM and never never skimp on swap space. > > If you're using FreeBSD to learn unix and you have a very old machine, > > it will be good for your education. It's interesting to see how much > more time some things take than others, without having to run a > separate program to measure the small differences that you could not > perceive on a faster computer. This makes a slow machine a good place > to learn shell scripting, for example. I've been running a 386 at > home > since when they were fashionable, but at work I look after huge alpha > servers. I'm sure I run these powerful monsters well because of > having > spent years forced to listen to what the heart of each machine is > saying just to make the bloody thing run. It's a whole different > approach, and you can apply it anywhere, even to people. > > -- > > Regards, > -*Sue*- > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 21 5: 3:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from goblin.apana.org.au (goblin.apana.org.au [203.3.126.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EF837B4E5 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 05:03:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by goblin.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id XAA02867; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 23:02:46 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from dougy.apana.org.au(203.3.126.131), claiming to be "dougy" via SMTP by goblin.apana.org.au, id smtpdew2865; Tue Nov 21 23:02:41 2000 Message-ID: <011801c053bc$7c2b6670$837e03cb@dougy> From: "Doug Young" To: "Sue Blake" Cc: "Heiko Recktenwald" , "shoe latif" , "Sven Bentlage" , References: <00d801c05391$bbae9cc0$837e03cb@dougy> <20001121201716.B377@welearn.com.au> Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Macintosh Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 23:10:53 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well the first one I did belongs to one of the female species too ... it ran 3.2 on a 120Mb hard drive for a year before getting an upgrade to 250Mb hard drive & 4.1 a few months ago ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sue Blake" To: "Doug Young" Cc: "Heiko Recktenwald" ; "shoe latif" ; "Sven Bentlage" ; Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 7:17 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Macintosh > On Tue, Nov 21, 2000 at 06:04:32PM +1000, Doug Young wrote: > > We've got a few prehistoric 3336 (386) Unisys systems (the big desktop case > > ones that weigh at least 100Kg) with 16 x 30 pin RAM slots) running FreeBSD > > 4.x / sendmail / apache / FTP / etc & never had a problem with them. They > > have > > internal 33600 ISA modems to get around the old UARTS, but thats the sum > > total of new parts used. > > Wow! Maybe I'll shake the dust off and upgrade FreeBSD on my 386 to 4.x :-) > > -- > > Regards, > -*Sue*- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 21 10:29: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate2.sabre.com (mailgate2.sabre.com [144.9.158.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04DF937B479 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 10:29:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from AAHDQ01-GI1.aa.com ([10.150.8.45]) by mailgate2.sabre.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA09474 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 12:29:03 -0600 (CST) Received: from USGWA1-Message_Server by AAHDQ01-GI1.aa.com with Novell_GroupWise; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 12:29:03 -0600 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.4 Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 12:28:28 -0600 From: "Lawrence Kreitzer" To: Subject: Need New Kernel Help Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello everyone I am a newbie to Unix in general and FreeBSD in particular, but I have a = lot of experience with all sorts of OS-es, dating back to the CDC-6400. = vi is not so strange, believe it or not :)=20 I recently bought BSD 4.1 Desktop Edition. The install worked just fine, = as far as it went, it just didn't go far enough. I need to connect to my = office network to do anything - print, surf, whatever - but I have an = Olicom 3118 tokenring NIC in this box. =20 The Complete FreeBSD book that came with the package was written for = version 3.x and the CDs do not have the CVS on it (at least, I couldn't = find it and I have looked for it pretty darn hard). Nonetheless, it = covers most subjects well enough so that I can I generalize the info to my = particular situation, I think. I understand that to get the Olicom working, I need to build new kernel. = I created my own configuration file after studying LINT and starting with = GENERIC. I think I have the correct files in the correct places. config, = make depend, make and make install all work without any fatal or serious = errors (an occasional warning comes up in make depend). My question is this (and perhaps it is better addressed to the tokenring = list, but I thought I should start here, being a newbie) - when I boot, = all the devices I have defined in the config come up, except for the = Olicom. I get this instead=20 >> unknown0: at port 0xa00-0xa1f irq 3 drq1 = on ISA0 Having browsed the tokenring mailing list archive, I have seen comments = that the ISA cards have had support dropped, to be replaced later, when = the PCI card drivers came out. I hope this is not the case and that = instead I am doing something stupidly wrong. Conversely, must I do a = MAKEDEV? (which I have already tried to no success, because the code = doesn't have any references to oltr in it) or even a mknod ? If so, = could someone provide me with the parameters for it ? I appreciate y'all (as they say down here in Texas) shedding some light on = this for me. Thanks ! Lawrence Kreitzer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 21 13:29: 5 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from goblin.apana.org.au (goblin.apana.org.au [203.3.126.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46E1037B479 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 13:29:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by goblin.apana.org.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) id HAA03347; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 07:28:34 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Received: from dougy.apana.org.au(203.3.126.131), claiming to be "dougy" via SMTP by goblin.apana.org.au, id smtpdUc3345; Wed Nov 22 07:28:25 2000 Message-ID: <015b01c05403$22f1c940$837e03cb@dougy> From: "Doug Young" To: "Lawrence Kreitzer" , References: Subject: Re: Need New Kernel Help Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 07:36:38 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I am a newbie to Unix in general and FreeBSD in particular, but I have a lot of experience with all sorts of OS-es, dating back to the CDC-6400. vi is not so strange, believe it or not :) why anyone would prefer that "vi" monstrosity to the infinitely easier "ee" is beyond me .... only reason I can think of is that some people believe that if it isn't overly complicated its no good !!!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 21 15:18:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sraige.mif.vu.lt (sraige.mif.vu.lt [193.219.42.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8443937B479 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 15:18:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from simas@localhost) by sraige.mif.vu.lt (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) id AAA00869; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:57:05 +0200 Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 00:57:04 +0200 From: Simas Cepaitis To: Doug Young Cc: Lawrence Kreitzer , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Need New Kernel Help Message-ID: <20001122005704.A855@sraige.mif.vu.lt> References: <015b01c05403$22f1c940$837e03cb@dougy> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <015b01c05403$22f1c940$837e03cb@dougy>; from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au on Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 07:36:38AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Wed, Nov 22, 2000 at 07:36:38AM +1000, Doug Young wrote: > why anyone would prefer that "vi" monstrosity to the infinitely easier "ee" > is beyond me .... only reason I can think of is that some people believe > that if it isn't overly complicated its no good !!!! Well, maybe this list is not for that but... I prefer vi, and it's not too complicated ;) You know, it's just your choice what you use. One day I tried to switch to emacs, but it just don't worked... vi is great ;) Well, ee is great, emacs is great, mcedit too... Use what you like, but don't try to prove, that to use ee is easier than vi... Simas Cepaitis simas@sraige.mif.vu.lt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 21 16:13: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from alerthost.encanto.net (alerthost.encanto.net [209.1.249.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50EB237B4D7 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 16:13:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mysticgatewaydesigns.com (slip-32-101-250-63.ca.us.prserv.net [32.101.250.63]) by alerthost.encanto.net (8.9.3/8.9.3-HW) with ESMTP id QAA12269 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 16:12:56 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3A1B100D.7E084CE7@mysticgatewaydesigns.com> Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 16:15:09 -0800 From: mgd X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Pulling my Freebsd from under me Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Iam a website designer and about a year ago I selected a Encanto enabled web server model 210 with Freebsd 2.2.7, to host and conduct my business. On December 29, 2000 Encanto Networks will be discontinuing their support and the Instant Connect service. Soooo, I will have a dead appliance with Freebsd 2.2.7 as a door stop and a design business I have to scramble to get hosted some place else. The basic question I have is: how could I convert the encanto web server to run my own apps with freebsd? Iam not a programer. I wounder how many other people have been place into this situation by encanto networks. This is really bad. Sinking fast Thanks in advance Jeffrey Perez Owner http://www.mysticgatewaydesigns.com/Internet/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 21 18:30:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from darius.concentric.net (darius.concentric.net [207.155.198.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04E8137B4C5 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 18:30:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from mcfeely.concentric.net (mcfeely.concentric.net [207.155.198.83]) by darius.concentric.net (8.9.1a/(98/12/15 5.12)) id VAA18583; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 21:30:12 -0500 (EST) [1-800-745-2747 The Concentric Network] Received: from ts006d33.mer-id.concentric.net (ts006d33.mer-id.concentric.net [208.177.68.45]) by mcfeely.concentric.net (8.9.1a) id VAA05491; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 21:30:08 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 17:27:44 -0700 (MST) From: ML Duke To: mgd Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Pulling my Freebsd from under me In-Reply-To: <3A1B100D.7E084CE7@mysticgatewaydesigns.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'd recomment netsonic.net for a hosting service, for what that's worth. I've been with them almost since the net started and have found them reliable--and they run Unix machines with shell accounts if you wish. ML Duke On Tue, 21 Nov 2000, mgd wrote: > Hello, > > Iam a website designer and about a year ago I selected a Encanto enabled > web server model 210 with Freebsd 2.2.7, to host and conduct my > business. On December 29, 2000 Encanto Networks will be discontinuing > their support and the Instant Connect service. Soooo, I will have a dead > appliance with Freebsd 2.2.7 as a door stop and a design business I have > to scramble to get hosted some place else. > The basic question I have is: how could I convert the encanto web server > to run my own apps with freebsd? Iam not a programer. > I wounder how many other people have been place into this situation by > encanto networks. This is really bad. > > Sinking fast > > Thanks in advance > > Jeffrey Perez > Owner > http://www.mysticgatewaydesigns.com/Internet/index.html > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Nov 21 18:49:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com (ha1.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com [212.120.66.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B806837B479 for ; Tue, 21 Nov 2000 18:49:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from CP30588A ([213.51.1.93]) by mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com (InterMail v4.01.01.00 201-229-111) with SMTP id <20001122010935.NBAW8911.mail.rdc1.ov.nl.home.com@CP30588A>; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 02:09:35 +0100 Message-ID: <000a01c05348$eb990a40$5d0133d5@gelen1.lb.nl.home.com> From: "Briz" To: Cc: Subject: ilink Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2000 00:23:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C05351.4D12ADA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C05351.4D12ADA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi I was thinking about installing FreeBSD on my computer but am = clueless if it has ilink support -I have a TEAC 12x Ilink burner Im = dying to use ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C05351.4D12ADA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C05351.4D12ADA0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 22 15:35:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from bmc1.mmind.net (bmc1.edumaster.net [209.236.72.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15BA637B4C5 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 15:35:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from david (tul-dsl-static-66-108.edumaster.net [209.236.66.108]) by bmc1.mmind.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA33013 for ; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 17:39:43 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jfoster@bmcinteractive.com) From: "Jeff Foster" To: Subject: Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2000 17:32:38 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org auth da3eb678 subscribe freebsd-newbies jfoster@bmcinteractive.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Nov 22 23:29:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mta5-rme.xtra.co.nz (mta5-rme.xtra.co.nz [203.96.92.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F044E37B479; Wed, 22 Nov 2000 23:27:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from themail.com ([210.54.197.59]) by mta5-rme.xtra.co.nz with SMTP id <20001123072744.OAIP60565.mta5-rme.xtra.co.nz@themail.com>; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 20:27:44 +1300 From: "turehu" To: Subject: Accept credit cards on-line THE EASY WAY! 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To remove your Email from the mailing list please send: jennifer@nottern.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Nov 23 2:35:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pop401-leg.mail.com (unknown [165.251.8.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DCDC37B4D7 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 02:35:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.com (dsl-64-34-163-21.telocity.com [64.34.163.21]) by pop401-leg.mail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A6694E1F5; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 05:35:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A1CF38B.D169550B@mail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 02:38:03 -0800 From: Noah Pratt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: shoe latif Cc: Sven Bentlage , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Macintosh References: <3A19458F.97BEACB0@petrosys.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Warning: precious little FreeBSD content The borrowed stuff in the MacOS X kernel (Darwin) came primarily from NeXT, which was in turn built on the Mach kerrnel. NeXT is where Steve Jobs went after his first stint at Apple, and Apple got all of the NeXT software when they got Jobs back. I'm not sure which one they purchased... NeXT hardware ran on Motorola's 68030 and 68040 CPUs, the same as the Macintosh models at that period of time. I don't know if any active development is being done to port FreeBSD to Apple hardware. However, NetBSD does run on both the 68K series and the PowerPC series Macs, and has done so since 1992 or so. http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/mac68k/ http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/ There's also Linux distro called Yellow Dog for Macintosh. I'm not an expert by any means, just a fan of Macintosh and Apple. (Gasp! Horror!) Well, a fan of the old Macs and the old Apple. My first computer was a 68000 powered Mac SE from 1988. I still use it from time to time... I still find Hypercard to be amazing in its ability to transform ordinary users into creative and productive programmers. Does anything like this exist for FreeBSD? Does anyone here know or care what I'm talking about? My current FreeBSD/Winders/WindersNT triple-boot system is a 700MHz Athlon with 8 times as much memory on the video card as the SE has for system memory (it's maxed at 4MB!), so you may all stop pitying me now. from http://www.apple.com/macosx/technologies/inside.html : Mac OS X is Unix-savvy Mac OS X supports POSIX file system semantics and NFS file sharing, as well as standard services like telnet and FTP, allowing easy operability with UNIX systems and applications. The system=92s kernel =97 the part th= at does the heavy lifting =97 is based on Mach 3.0 from Carnegie-Mellon University and FreeBSD 3.2 (derived from the University of California at Berkeley=92s BSD 4.4-Lite), the most highly regarded core technologies from two of the most widely acclaimed OS projects of the modern era. We also took the famous Apache web server =97 which runs over half the websites on the Internet =97 and made it friendly enough to use on your desktop for personal file sharing. Sorry about the ramble, -Noah shoe latif wrote: > = > the new mac os x is supposed to have been built on freebsd. i think it'= s worth > checking out. last time i checked i think it was still in beta. i only = got to > play with it for a little while, i actually was wondering where you wou= ld make > kernel modifications like for natd, i couldn't find the kernel. then ag= ain i > wasn't looking too hard. > = > shoe > = > Sven Bentlage wrote: > = > > Hi! > > I=B4m a total newbie to FreeBSD. So some questions might have been as= ked > > before, but I=B4d still be grateful for answers- > > 1. is there any way to run FreeBSD on a Macintosh (iMac, G3 400 Mhz, = 64 MB > > RAM)? > > 2. Is there any support for ADSL? > > 3. Where can I find detailed explanations abot FreeBSD firewalls? And= can I > > run a FreeBSD system on a 486 PC? > > > > Thanks for answering my questions. > > > > Sven > = > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Nov 23 2:38:30 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from operamail.com (OperaMail.com [199.29.68.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C03B37B4D7 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 02:38:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from operamail.com [151.14.102.98] (hpstr@operamail.com) by operamail.com; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 05:38:27 -0500 X-WM-Posted-At: operamail.com; Thu, 23 Nov 00 05:38:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3A1CF3D2.2FAB6FB1@operamail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 11:39:14 +0100 From: "H.P. Stroebel" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [de] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org, faq@openbsd.org, www@netbsd.org Cc: Christian Weisgerber Subject: Link submission : Introduction to BSD for Linux Users Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi ! I am recently thinking about switching from RedHat Linux to *BSD. There seems to be some lack of information for some first faq Linux users ask when thinking about BSD (differences, device names, packagesetc). In de.comp.os.unix.bsd, there were three threads with similar content in the first three weeks of november. One user of this group, Christian Weisgerber, wrote an article "BSD: Linux with a twist", that can be found at http://sites.inka.de/mips/unix/bsdlinux.html. I consider this article to contain lots of "newbie" information Linux users may ask for, so you might add this article to the FAQ or documentation links at your website; I asked the author`s permission before submitting this mail. He will not maintain the document to be up to date, though. If you add the link to your sites, please drop him a note to naddy@mips.inka.de. Regards, -- H. P. Stroebel, Germany To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Nov 23 4: 5:21 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from pop314-leg.mail.com (unknown [165.251.8.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CADA37B4CF for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 04:05:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.com (dsl-64-34-163-21.telocity.com [64.34.163.21]) by pop314-leg.mail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D8DDF7827; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 07:05:17 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A1D0899.C447739A@mail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 04:07:53 -0800 From: Noah Pratt X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Briz Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ilink References: <000a01c05348$eb990a40$5d0133d5@gelen1.lb.nl.home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Er, do you mean IEEE 1394, aka FireWire? iLink is Sony's name for this standard. Firewire is Apple's name, and seems to be more widely accepted than iLink. > Briz wrote: > > Hi I was thinking about installing FreeBSD on my computer but am > clueless if it has ilink support -I have a TEAC 12x Ilink burner Im > dying to use To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Nov 23 11:30:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sand2.global.net.uk (sand2.global.net.uk [195.147.246.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17BFF37B479 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 11:30:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from p75s10a06.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.218.118] helo=pauls.wulfric7.com ident=root) by sand2.global.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13z251-00076t-00 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 19:30:47 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pauls.wulfric7.com (8.10.2/8.10.2/SuSE Linux 8.10.0-0.3) with ESMTP id eANJVlW01092 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 19:31:47 GMT Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 19:31:47 +0000 (GMT) From: wulfie To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Anti-spam policy In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't know what the list moderator's policy is on spam - I'm seeing plenty of it on this list. However, here's mine - I'm unsubscribing. If you have an anti-spam ploicy please implement it. ================================================== Paul Sims (wulfie@wulfric7.co.uk) SpireLUG - the Chesterfield Linux User Group www.spirelug.org.uk ================================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Nov 23 11:30:53 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from sand2.global.net.uk (sand2.global.net.uk [195.147.246.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9D8437B4CF for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 11:30:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from p75s10a06.client.global.net.uk ([195.147.218.118] helo=pauls.wulfric7.com ident=root) by sand2.global.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #1) id 13z250-00076t-00 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 19:30:46 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pauls.wulfric7.com (8.10.2/8.10.2/SuSE Linux 8.10.0-0.3) with ESMTP id eANJTfW00836 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 19:29:41 GMT Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 19:29:41 +0000 (GMT) From: wulfie To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: unsubscribe In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org unsubscribe freebsd-newbies To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Nov 23 12: 0:44 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F302A37B4C5 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 12:00:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from c996775-a.vncvr1.wa.home.com ([24.16.193.228]) by femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20001123200041.PWT3142.femail5.sdc1.sfba.home.com@c996775-a.vncvr1.wa.home.com>; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 12:00:41 -0800 Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 20:00:37 +0000 From: Y u r i X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.47 Halloween Edition) Personal Reply-To: Y u r i X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <354369042.20001123200037@home.com> To: wulfie Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anti-spam policy In-reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, w> plenty of it on this list. However, here's mine - I'm unsubscribing. i just can't figure out what purpose this list serves, i guess this is just another of those unix jokes; every time the ever-present threat that things may start making sense is coming closer to fruition somebody comes up with a solution that serves no other purpose but to confuse an innocent newbie. all i heard here so far is verbotten this and verbotten that. call me stupid, but i am unsubscribing too. plus, all of these lists are duplicated on usenet and dejanews, thast's where real spam is coming from. kinda lame for gray bearded gurus, isn't it? -- Best regards, Y To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Nov 23 15:19:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from bne007m.webcentral.com.au (bne007m.server-mail.com [202.139.234.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7948F37B479 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 15:19:46 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 23218 invoked from network); 23 Nov 2000 23:19:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO warhawk) (203.147.164.177) by bne007m.server-mail.com with SMTP; 23 Nov 2000 23:19:38 -0000 From: "Haikal Saadh" To: Subject: RE: Using .iso Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 09:23:29 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <003301c05312$64aadd50$837e03cb@dougy> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've successfully burned them under win98 using Nero Burning Rom... >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Doug Young >Sent: Tuesday, 21 November 2000 2:53 AM >To: John R Krepps; freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: Using .iso > > >Yeah it IS simple like most things in unix ...... providing of course you >manage >to stumble across someone who has had the same experience recently :) > >The ONLY way I've been able to do it is with Adaptec Ezy CD Creator .... >its got a special setting for exactly that purpose. If you are burning ISO >images >from Windows 2000 you'll need version 3.5c or later (don't even attempt to >install >earlier versions or they will give BSOD's on booting !!!!). I dunno about >Win98 >though, maybe earlier ones work OK then. > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "John R Krepps" >To: >Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 1:11 AM >Subject: Using .iso > > >> Hello, I am attempting to make an installation CD using the *.iso file, >but >> am afraid I am unable to figure out how to use the file to make the CD. >> All apologies for this question, as I am certain that the answer >is simple >> >> >> Thanks much >> John Krepps >> FreeBSD/Unix Absolute Newbie >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message >> >> > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Nov 23 15:23:18 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from bryden.apana.org.au (bryden.apana.org.au [203.3.126.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3298B37B4C5 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 15:23:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from dougy (dougy.apana.org.au [203.3.126.131]) by bryden.apana.org.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA14575; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 09:28:42 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Message-ID: <006f01c055a5$7962d960$837e03cb@dougy> From: "Doug Young" To: "Haikal Saadh" , References: Subject: Re: Using .iso Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 09:31:08 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Would you care to explain exactly HOW ?? .... I've never been able to find any mention of ISO files in either the menu or in documentation ----- Original Message ----- From: "Haikal Saadh" To: Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 9:23 AM Subject: RE: Using .iso > I've successfully burned them under win98 using > Nero Burning Rom... > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Doug Young > >Sent: Tuesday, 21 November 2000 2:53 AM > >To: John R Krepps; freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > >Subject: Re: Using .iso > > > > > >Yeah it IS simple like most things in unix ...... providing of course you > >manage > >to stumble across someone who has had the same experience recently :) > > > >The ONLY way I've been able to do it is with Adaptec Ezy CD Creator .... > >its got a special setting for exactly that purpose. If you are burning ISO > >images > >from Windows 2000 you'll need version 3.5c or later (don't even attempt to > >install > >earlier versions or they will give BSOD's on booting !!!!). I dunno about > >Win98 > >though, maybe earlier ones work OK then. > > > > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "John R Krepps" > >To: > >Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2000 1:11 AM > >Subject: Using .iso > > > > > >> Hello, I am attempting to make an installation CD using the *.iso file, > >but > >> am afraid I am unable to figure out how to use the file to make the CD. > >> All apologies for this question, as I am certain that the answer > >is simple > >> > >> > >> Thanks much > >> John Krepps > >> FreeBSD/Unix Absolute Newbie > >> > >> > >> > >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > >> > >> > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Nov 23 16:49:38 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 71B4137B479 for ; Thu, 23 Nov 2000 16:49:36 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 18481 invoked by uid 0); 24 Nov 2000 00:49:34 -0000 Received: from 6dyn105.maarssen.casema.net (HELO vandenbroek) (212.64.29.105) by mail.gmx.net (mail04) with SMTP; 24 Nov 2000 00:49:34 -0000 Message-ID: <001301c055af$fd03db20$691d40d4@vandenbroek> From: "deviant" To: Subject: subscribe Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 01:46:30 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C055B8.5DF73780" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C055B8.5DF73780 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ~~~~~~ | | |c--OD Jasper van den Broek | _) [ deviant@gmx.net ] | | |-. | / `-# /A / /_|..`#.J/ ||LJ `m' ptaylor ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C055B8.5DF73780 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C055B8.5DF73780-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 24 0:39: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web111.yahoomail.com (web111.mail.yahoo.com [205.180.60.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BAA4537B4C5 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 00:39:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 7524 invoked by uid 60001); 24 Nov 2000 08:39:01 -0000 Message-ID: <20001124083901.7523.qmail@web111.yahoomail.com> Received: from [24.19.240.27] by web111.yahoomail.com; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 00:39:01 PST Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 00:39:01 -0800 (PST) From: Jim Chuang To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org auth 0e8ca4ea subscribe freebsd-newbies \ jimchuang@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. http://shopping.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 24 1:35: 2 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de [131.220.18.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6549137B479 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 01:34:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from moritz.alleswirdgelber (ascend-tk-p24.dialin.uni-bonn.de [131.220.244.24]) by f1node03.rhrz.uni-bonn.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA122200; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 10:31:22 +0100 Received: from localhost (uzs106@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moritz.alleswirdgelber (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA58854; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 00:26:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 00:26:52 +0100 (CET) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@moritz.alleswirdgelber To: Noah Pratt Cc: shoe latif , Sven Bentlage , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Macintosh In-Reply-To: <3A1CF38B.D169550B@mail.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > computer was a 68000 powered Mac SE from 1988. I still use it from time I dont use it anymore since I figured out that vMac is much faster. But Hypercard is interesting for the audio part (play sample e a d g..) H. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 24 4:15:37 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from is.aist-nara.ac.jp (enterprise.aist-nara.ac.jp [163.221.80.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38ED837B4C5 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 04:15:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 29915 invoked from network); 24 Nov 2000 21:15:26 +0900 Received: from ryo1120.aist-nara.ac.jp (HELO sgi100) (163.221.150.29) by ismailgate.aist-nara.ac.jp with SMTP; 24 Nov 2000 21:15:26 +0900 From: "Jonathan Khoo" To: Subject: subscribe freebsd-newbies Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 21:12:54 +0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0565B.4F898880" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0565B.4F898880 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit subscribe freebsd-newbies ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0565B.4F898880 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0565B.4F898880-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 24 6:43:50 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from rasmus.uib.no (rasmus.uib.no [129.177.12.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C470037B4C5 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 06:43:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from pd-iclpii-hh-39.ifi.uib.no (rasmus.uib.no) [129.177.36.139] by rasmus.uib.no with esmtp (Exim 3.16) id 13zK4g-0006hY-00; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 15:43:38 +0100 Message-ID: <3A1E7E80.90D63F14@rasmus.uib.no> Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 15:43:12 +0100 From: Arild =?iso-8859-1?Q?Eiken=E6s?= Vengen Reply-To: ArildV@ifi.uib.no X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Doug Young Subject: Re: Using .iso References: <006f01c055a5$7962d960$837e03cb@dougy> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug Young wrote: > > Would you care to explain exactly HOW ?? .... I've never been able to find > any mention of ISO files in either the menu or in documentation > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Haikal Saadh" > To: > Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 9:23 AM > Subject: RE: Using .iso > > > I've successfully burned them under win98 using > > Nero Burning Rom... It`s not very obvious how to burn ISO-images with Nero, but it is possible! Choose file -> Burn Image -> all files(*.*) -> Open -> Type of image: Data mode 1, Block size: 2048, Image header: 0, Image trailer: 0 and click OK. Insert CD and press write. Works for me. I`ve burnt numerous FreeBSD-images with Nero (version 5). You can also use Padus Discjuggler, which is a little bit easier to understand (http://www.padus.com/). Arild E. Vengen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 24 6:57:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from bryden.apana.org.au (bryden.apana.org.au [203.3.126.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF4337B479 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 06:57:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from dougy (dougy.apana.org.au [203.3.126.131]) by bryden.apana.org.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id BAA03902; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 01:00:47 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from dougy@gargoyle.apana.org.au) Message-ID: <018201c05627$c17b2400$837e03cb@dougy> From: "Doug Young" To: , References: <006f01c055a5$7962d960$837e03cb@dougy> <3A1E7E80.90D63F14@rasmus.uib.no> Subject: Re: Using .iso Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 01:00:54 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org They sure don't want to make it obvious !!!!!!!!!! At least with Adaptec EzyCD Creator its simply a matter of selecting "create CD from ISO image" ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arild Eikenęs Vengen" To: Cc: "Doug Young" Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2000 12:43 AM Subject: Re: Using .iso > Doug Young wrote: > > > > Would you care to explain exactly HOW ?? .... I've never been able to find > > any mention of ISO files in either the menu or in documentation > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Haikal Saadh" > > To: > > Sent: Friday, November 24, 2000 9:23 AM > > Subject: RE: Using .iso > > > > > I've successfully burned them under win98 using > > > Nero Burning Rom... > > It`s not very obvious how to burn ISO-images with Nero, but it is > possible! Choose file -> Burn Image -> all files(*.*) -> Open -> Type of > image: Data mode 1, Block size: 2048, Image header: 0, Image trailer: 0 > and click OK. Insert CD and press write. Works for me. I`ve burnt > numerous FreeBSD-images with Nero (version 5). You can also use Padus > Discjuggler, which is a little bit easier to understand > (http://www.padus.com/). > > Arild E. Vengen > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 24 12:16: 4 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mxout2.cac.washington.edu (mxout2.cac.washington.edu [140.142.33.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F28D637B479 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:16:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from shiva0.cac.washington.edu (shiva0.cac.washington.edu [140.142.100.200]) by mxout2.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA23718 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:16:01 -0800 Received: from localhost (drr@localhost) by shiva0.cac.washington.edu (8.9.3+UW00.02/8.9.3+UW99.09) with ESMTP id MAA04091 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:16:01 -0800 Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:16:01 -0800 (PST) From: David Richardson X-Sender: To: Subject: XFree86 & kern.securelevel > 0 incompatible? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org With a fresh 4.1.1 install, I can't seem to get X working if the kern.securelevel is set greater than 0. The server fails with an xf86OpenConsole: KDENABIO error. I couldn't find anything in the FAQ about this. It works fine if securelevel is <= 0. Are there any workarounds other than leaving securelevel at -1? Any pointers to more information on actions blocked by securelevel settings would be appreciated. Thanks, - David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 24 16:27:56 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.mail.yahoo.com (smtp1.mail.yahoo.com [128.11.69.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1161637B4CF for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 16:27:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from unknown (HELO yahoo.com) (63.204.205.111) by smtp.mail.vip.suc.yahoo.com with SMTP; 24 Nov 2000 01:14:03 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <3A1DC035.3EE68221@yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2000 17:11:17 -0800 From: Donny Garcia X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.08 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 3.3-RELEASE i386) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: libgtk-1.2.so.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi . im new to freebsd. i used to use linux, but decided to switch. straight off the bat ive been having trouble with my libraries. can anyone tell me what ports this file is in and anymore libraries that i should installed. For example, i installed gtk and glib to use with ymessenger. libgtk-1.2.so.0 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Nov 24 17:32:36 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from phoenix.welearn.com.au (phoenix.welearn.com.au [139.130.44.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5EF37B4C5 for ; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 17:32:27 -0800 (PST) Received: (from sue@localhost) by phoenix.welearn.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA26162 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 12:30:13 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from sue) Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 12:30:13 +1100 (EST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200011250130.MAA26162@phoenix.welearn.com.au> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Nov 25 10:14: 8 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from c002.snv.cp.net (c002-h007.c002.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.171]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF61437B479 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 10:14:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (cpmta 4498 invoked from network); 25 Nov 2000 10:14:05 -0800 Received: from 1Cust129.tnt2.fort-wayne.in.da.uu.net (HELO peoplepc.com) (63.25.79.129) by smtp.peoplepc.com (209.228.32.171) with SMTP; 25 Nov 2000 10:14:05 -0800 X-Sent: 25 Nov 2000 18:14:05 GMT Message-ID: <3A2002FE.9000502@peoplepc.com> Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 13:20:46 -0500 From: mh User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1-RELEASE i386; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001016 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org auth 6b428630 subscribe freebsd-newbies heyesm@peoplepc.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Nov 25 11:57: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.ieg.com.br (unknown [200.194.3.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DB1637B4C5 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 11:56:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from bart.base.com.br (portctba241-48.brasilnet.net [200.195.241.48]) by smtp.ieg.com.br (8.10.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id eAPJs4L24325 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 17:54:06 -0200 Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.2.20001125175513.00a05cb0@eiffel.base.com.br> X-Sender: mfarias@eiffel.base.com.br X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2000 17:58:12 -0200 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: Marcelo Soares Farias Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All, How can I burn CD=B4s, programs, config, etc.? I have a Athlon 600, 128 MHz,= =20 a CD-Writer Plus 9300 Series (IDE) from HP. Tks /* ** Marcelo Soares Farias ** Engenheiro Eletr=F4nico ** Universidade Federal do Paran=E1 ** ICQ UIN #2987599 ** Linux Registered User #103515 */ Veja como ganhar dinheiro em: http://www.emaildireto.com.br/?ref=3DAAQ-800 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Nov 25 11:58:55 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from heorot.1nova.com (sub24-23.member.dsl-only.net [63.105.24.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86A4F37B4D7 for ; Sat, 25 Nov 2000 11:58:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4BC9A18A0; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:22:25 +0000 (GMT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by heorot.1nova.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 346C5189F; Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:22:25 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 24 Nov 2000 12:22:25 +0000 (GMT) From: Rick Hamell To: Marcelo Soares Farias Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: your mail In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.2.20001125175513.00a05cb0@eiffel.base.com.br> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org =09Check http://www.mostgraveconcern.com/freebsd =09=09Rick ******************************************************************* Ace Logan's Hardware Guide http://www.shatteredcrystal.net/hardware ***FreeBSD - The Power to Serve! http://www.freebsd.org On Sat, 25 Nov 2000, Marcelo Soares Farias wrote: > Hi All, > How can I burn CD=B4s, programs, config, etc.? I have a Athlon 600, 128 M= Hz,=20 > a CD-Writer Plus 9300 Series (IDE) from HP. Tks >=20 > /* > ** Marcelo Soares Farias > ** Engenheiro Eletr=F4nico > ** Universidade Federal do Paran=E1 > ** ICQ UIN #2987599 > ** Linux Registered User #103515 > */ >=20 >=20 >=20 > Veja como ganhar dinheiro em: > http://www.emaildireto.com.br/?ref=3DAAQ-800 >=20 >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message