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Date:      Sun, 30 Jul 2000 12:27:18 -0400
From:      Bill Fumerola <billf@chimesnet.com>
To:        Miklos Niedermayer <mico@bsd.hu>
Cc:        Mike Hoskins <mike@adept.org>, Darren Reed <avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au>, Pavol Adamec <pavol_adamec@tempest.sk>, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ipf or ipfw (was: log with dynamic firewall rules)
Message-ID:  <20000730122718.P5021@jade.chc-chimes.com>
In-Reply-To: <20000729194821.B1716@bsd.hu>; from mico@bsd.hu on Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 07:48:21PM %2B0200
References:  <200007270800.SAA23526@cairo.anu.edu.au> <Pine.BSF.4.21.0007271247130.58787-100000@snafu.adept.org> <20000729194821.B1716@bsd.hu>

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On Sat, Jul 29, 2000 at 07:48:21PM +0200, Miklos Niedermayer wrote:

> > The only real reason I've heard ipf reccomended since ipfw got
> > keep-state/check-state is ipnat.
> 
> I think that ipfw's statefullness is in a very early stage.

It's unusable for any server that makes connections with a lot
of clients (irc client server, www server, etc) but is useful
for a server that only makes a few connections (application,
irc hub server, etc..).

Why? Add 6000 rules to your ipfw-based firewall and see
what happens.

-- 
Bill Fumerola - Network Architect, BOFH / Chimes, Inc.
                billf@chimesnet.com / billf@FreeBSD.org





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