From owner-freebsd-small Thu May 11 12:37:46 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from lepton.subatomix.com (okc-224-168.mmcable.com [24.94.224.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D854137B780 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 12:37:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jss@lepton.subatomix.com) Received: from localhost (jss@localhost) by lepton.subatomix.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA63144 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 14:42:00 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jss@lepton.subatomix.com) Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 14:41:59 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jeffrey S. Sharp" To: freebsd-small Subject: Progress on TinyBSD make-based build Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It's taken me a little longer than I expected, but I have finished a beta version of the TinyBSD Development Kit, complete with all the original features that I wanted to put in. I haven't looked into the features that people have suggested, but I plan to at some point. Once I write some documentation, I will make a release it somewhere for cheers and jeers (hopefully more of the former :). It's not really a huge deal; it's pretty much just a Makefile, a script, a directory tree, and some sample conf files. The Makefile is softlinked throughout the directory tree and serves as the user interface to the build system. The script, named 'config', takes conf files and generates a set of makefiles that do the actual work of building a distribution. Like I predicted, I did not have ample time to worry about extraneous testing for error conditions. Thus, it is incredibly easy to screw something up and get no more feedback than a failed make. More work needs to be done in that area. Also, I'm not quite up the super-guru level that a lot of you are. Making this thing go has been very educational for me, but I'm sure there are a few boneheaded things still left in there as a result of my non-guru-ness. A second result is that I'm not really sure what the best method of release is. What should I do? Put a tarball up on a web site somewhere? Start a CVS server (overkill?)? =============================== Jeffrey S. Sharp (XorAxAx) jss@subatomix.com -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version 3.12 GCS/IT/MU d-@ s-:+ a21 C++(++++) UBL+(+++$)> P L+(+++$)> E+> W++ N+(++) o? K? w++$> !O M(-) !V PS+ PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+ R(+) tv+ b+ DI++(+++) G++ e> h--- r+++ y+++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu May 11 14:45:13 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from mimer.webgiro.com (mimer.webgiro.com [212.209.29.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CDAA37B59F for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 14:45:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abial@webgiro.com) Received: by mimer.webgiro.com (Postfix, from userid 66) id E59C52DC0A; Thu, 11 May 2000 23:48:03 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mx.webgiro.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 371557817; Thu, 11 May 2000 23:40:57 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx.webgiro.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34ECB10E17; Thu, 11 May 2000 23:40:57 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 11 May 2000 23:40:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Andrzej Bialecki To: "Jeffrey S. Sharp" Cc: freebsd-small Subject: Re: Progress on TinyBSD make-based build In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 11 May 2000, Jeffrey S. Sharp wrote: > It's taken me a little longer than I expected, but I have finished a beta > version of the TinyBSD Development Kit, complete with all the original > features that I wanted to put in. I haven't looked into the features that > people have suggested, but I plan to at some point. Once I write some > documentation, I will make a release it somewhere for cheers and jeers > (hopefully more of the former :). Where can I download the code? > It's not really a huge deal; it's pretty much just a Makefile, a script, a > directory tree, and some sample conf files. The Makefile is softlinked > throughout the directory tree and serves as the user interface to the > build system. The script, named 'config', takes conf files and generates > a set of makefiles that do the actual work of building a distribution. > > Like I predicted, I did not have ample time to worry about extraneous > testing for error conditions. Thus, it is incredibly easy to screw > something up and get no more feedback than a failed make. More work needs > to be done in that area. > > Also, I'm not quite up the super-guru level that a lot of you are. Making > this thing go has been very educational for me, but I'm sure there are a > few boneheaded things still left in there as a result of my > non-guru-ness. A second result is that I'm not really sure what the best > method of release is. What should I do? Put a tarball up on a web site > somewhere? Start a CVS server (overkill?)? Try to set up a project at sourceforge.net? Andrzej Bialecki // WebGiro AB, Sweden (http://www.webgiro.com) // ------------------------------------------------------------------- // ------ FreeBSD: The Power to Serve. http://www.freebsd.org -------- // --- Small & Embedded FreeBSD: http://www.freebsd.org/~picobsd/ ---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Thu May 11 23:43:29 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from lepton.subatomix.com (okc-224-168.mmcable.com [24.94.224.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E367C37B5D8 for ; Thu, 11 May 2000 23:43:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jss@lepton.subatomix.com) Received: from localhost (jss@localhost) by lepton.subatomix.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA63768; Fri, 12 May 2000 01:47:31 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jss@lepton.subatomix.com) Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 01:47:30 -0500 (CDT) From: "Jeffrey S. Sharp" To: Andrzej Bialecki Cc: freebsd-small Subject: Re: Progress on TinyBSD make-based build In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 11 May 2000, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: > On Thu, 11 May 2000, Jeffrey S. Sharp wrote: > > > Once I write some > > documentation, I will make a release it somewhere for cheers and jeers > > (hopefully more of the former :). > > Where can I download the code? I don't know when or where yet. I will keep everyone posted. =============================== Jeffrey S. Sharp (XorAxAx) jss@subatomix.com -----BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK----- Version 3.12 GCS/IT/MU d-@ s-:+ a21 C++(++++) UBL+(+++$)> P L+(+++$)> E+> W++ N+(++) o? K? w++$> !O M(-) !V PS+ PE Y PGP- t+ 5 X+ R(+) tv+ b+ DI++(+++) G++ e> h--- r+++ y+++ ------END GEEK CODE BLOCK------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri May 12 5:56:58 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from green.wl.vg (green.wl.vg [204.200.26.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F12F237C09C for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 05:56:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patrick@whetstonelogic.com) Received: from whetstonelogic.com (pathome [209.9.69.194]) by green.wl.vg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA59283; Fri, 12 May 2000 05:53:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patrick@whetstonelogic.com) Message-ID: <391BFF14.32DB783B@whetstonelogic.com> Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 08:54:44 -0400 From: Patrick Gardella Organization: Whetstone Logic, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jeffrey S. Sharp" Cc: freebsd-small Subject: Re: Progress on TinyBSD make-based build References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Might I suggest that we start a new directory for this on the http://www.freebsd.org/small/ pages? I'll be updating them shortly to reflect the new stuff we've had done recently. I'd be happy to add a tinybsd directory to it. Uploading files, such as sources won't be bad. If it works well, we can add it to the /usr/src/release alongside picobsd. Patrick "Jeffrey S. Sharp" wrote: > > It's taken me a little longer than I expected, but I have finished a beta > version of the TinyBSD Development Kit, complete with all the original > features that I wanted to put in. I haven't looked into the features that > people have suggested, but I plan to at some point. Once I write some > documentation, I will make a release it somewhere for cheers and jeers > (hopefully more of the former :). > > It's not really a huge deal; it's pretty much just a Makefile, a script, a > directory tree, and some sample conf files. The Makefile is softlinked > throughout the directory tree and serves as the user interface to the > build system. The script, named 'config', takes conf files and generates > a set of makefiles that do the actual work of building a distribution. > > Like I predicted, I did not have ample time to worry about extraneous > testing for error conditions. Thus, it is incredibly easy to screw > something up and get no more feedback than a failed make. More work needs > to be done in that area. > > Also, I'm not quite up the super-guru level that a lot of you are. Making > this thing go has been very educational for me, but I'm sure there are a > few boneheaded things still left in there as a result of my > non-guru-ness. A second result is that I'm not really sure what the best > method of release is. What should I do? Put a tarball up on a web site > somewhere? Start a CVS server (overkill?)? -- Patrick ---------- Patrick Gardella patrick@whetstonelogic.com VP-Technology patrick@freebsd.org Whetstone Logic, Inc. This space intentionally left blank. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-small Fri May 12 14: 1:22 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-small@freebsd.org Received: from hydrant.intranova.net (hydrant.intranova.net [209.201.95.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C57537BE8C for ; Fri, 12 May 2000 14:01:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oogali@intranova.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hydrant.intranova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F85DE0C9A; Fri, 12 May 2000 17:01:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 12 May 2000 17:01:42 -0400 (EDT) From: Omachonu Ogali To: "Jeffrey S. Sharp" Cc: freebsd-small Subject: Re: Progress on TinyBSD make-based build In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This feature has existed for a while in the 'custom' release of PicoBSD, and something Greg Lemis (sp?) has pointed out for a while, beginning with when you first started. Just a reminder. :) -- +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Omachonu Ogali oogali@intranova.net | | Intranova Networking Group http://tribune.intranova.net | | PGP Key ID: 0xBFE60839 | | PGP Fingerprint: C8 51 14 FD 2A 87 53 D1 E3 AA 12 12 01 93 BD 34 | +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-small" in the body of the message