From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 4 10:21:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00A0037B69D; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 10:21:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f14ILNS49099; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 10:21:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 10:21:23 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200102041821.f14ILNS49099@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jachs@hstsoft.com, wilko@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: alpha/22128: Cannot install 4.1.1 on an Alpha AS200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Cannot install 4.1.1 on an Alpha AS200 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: wilko State-Changed-When: Sun Feb 4 10:19:45 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Could not get feedback from submitter. Evidence is pretty strong this was a 4.1.1.-only problem as people report success with 4.2R on the same hardware. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22128 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 4 10:22:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE46D37B69D; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 10:22:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f14IMKt49244; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 10:22:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 10:22:20 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200102041822.f14IMKt49244@freefall.freebsd.org> To: norm@wiregrass.com, wilko@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: alpha/24170: Problem installing on Alpha Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Problem installing on Alpha State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: wilko State-Changed-When: Sun Feb 4 10:21:54 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: No feedback from submitter when asking for any detail.. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=24170 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 4 14:59:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from netau1.alcanet.com.au (ntp.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BA8837B401 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 14:59:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au (mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au [139.188.23.1]) by netau1.alcanet.com.au (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA20346 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 09:59:04 +1100 (EDT) Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au by cim.alcatel.com.au (PMDF V5.2-32 #37645) with ESMTP id <01JZQWO7CKLSIBA5MC@cim.alcatel.com.au> for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 09:59:01 +1100 Received: (from jeremyp@localhost) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f14MwxX94802 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Mon, 05 Feb 2001 09:58:59 +1100 (EST envelope-from jeremyp) Content-return: prohibited Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 09:58:59 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: TGA Console and Alpha perfmon To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Mail-followup-to: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Message-id: <20010205095858.F90937@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In one of the regular "why can't I use a TGA as a console" threads, mention was made that the necessary information to actually write a driver is now available. Does anyone have a URL? On a totally separate issue, has anyone looked at implementing hooks to use the performance monitoring facilities in the CPUs? I realise that one problem is the totally different information provided by different chips, but I don't see any problem (in principal) with providing CPU-dependent interface code. There's currently a device node for the i386, which could be re-used (though sysctl may be a cleaner interface for reading performance counters). Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 4 20:12: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from user10.orgio.net (unknown [211.172.231.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C508737B401 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 20:11:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by user10.orgio.net (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f15458e27065 for freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org.outgoing; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:05:08 +0900 Message-Id: <200102050405.f15458e27065@user10.orgio.net> Received: (from nobody@localhost) by user10.orgio.net (8.10.1/8.9.3) id f15458p27059; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:05:08 +0900 From: "¿À¹Îö" To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Help me, please!!! X-Priority: 3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 13:05:08 KST Content-Type: text/html; Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Orgio Mail Webmail Interface Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org
My system is stop on choosing number after CD booting.
So, I can't choice a number.
Would you tell me an advice. 
Are there anything I do before CD Rom booting (>>>boot dka400)?
After >>>boot dka400, terminal shows first dhoice 
 that is booting or prompt.
Second choice is predefine terminal type. (1~5)
The problem is here, I can't choice a number.
I think I must do something first choice (on prompt).
But I don't know.
Please, hepl me!!!

system : digital Alpha server 1000A
First SCSI Hard Disk : dka0
Second SCSI Hard Disk : dka100
SCCI CD Rom : dka400
  
To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Feb 4 21:57:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (linuxgate.linuxcare.com [167.216.157.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6D3C37B491 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 21:57:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f155vus00507; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 21:57:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200102050557.f155vus00507@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: " " Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Help me, please!!! In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 05 Feb 2001 13:05:08 +0700." <200102050405.f15458e27065@user10.orgio.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 04 Feb 2001 21:57:56 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Remove the TGA card from your system, and use a standard VGA card, or use= = a serial console. FreeBSD does not support the TGA card. > My system is stop on choosing number after CD booting. > So, I can't choice a number. > Would you tell me an advice. = > Are there anything I do before CD Rom booting (>>>boot dka400)? > After >>>boot dka400, terminal shows first dhoice = > that is booting or prompt. > Second choice is predefine terminal type. (1~5) > The problem is here, I can't choice a number. > I think I must do something first choice (on prompt). > But I don't know. > Please, hepl me!!! > = > system : digital Alpha server 1000A > First SCSI Hard Disk : dka0 > Second SCSI Hard Disk : dka100 > SCCI CD Rom : dka400 > > = > > > = > = > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message -- = =2E.. every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. 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To prevent further unwanted intrusions please = click on the following link; your email will be automatically removed from = our list.=20 http://www.wine-alley.com/wines/desmail.asp?id=3Dfreebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG&= l=3Duk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 5 5:48:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C85837B401 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 05:48:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA18712; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 08:48:25 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.9.1) id f15DloD06870; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 08:47:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14974.44806.104312.206352@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 08:47:50 -0500 (EST) To: Peter Jeremy Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TGA Console and Alpha perfmon In-Reply-To: <20010205095858.F90937@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> References: <20010205095858.F90937@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Peter Jeremy writes: > In one of the regular "why can't I use a TGA as a console" threads, > mention was made that the necessary information to actually write > a driver is now available. Does anyone have a URL? I beleive it has been available for quite some time: ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/misc/dec-docs/index.html#dsc-chip-21030 However, there is already a volunteer working on a TGA driver as we speak. He has made substantial progress, however there are a few remaining issues to tackle (primarily the finer points of syscons integration & X server interaction). > On a totally separate issue, has anyone looked at implementing hooks > to use the performance monitoring facilities in the CPUs? I realise > that one problem is the totally different information provided by > different chips, but I don't see any problem (in principal) with > providing CPU-dependent interface code. There's currently a device > node for the i386, which could be re-used (though sysctl may be a > cleaner interface for reading performance counters). http://www.cs.duke.edu/ari/iprobe.html Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 5 6:40:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B403E37B401 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 06:40:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f15Ee2135694; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 06:40:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 06:40:02 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200102051440.f15Ee2135694@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Cc: From: "Sergio Jachtchenco" Subject: Re: alpha/22128: Cannot install 4.1.1 on an Alpha AS200 Reply-To: "Sergio Jachtchenco" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR alpha/22128; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Sergio Jachtchenco" To: , "Sergio Jachtchenco" Cc: Subject: Re: alpha/22128: Cannot install 4.1.1 on an Alpha AS200 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 09:32:12 -0500 4.2R installs without ny problem, as well as 4.0. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 5 9: 4:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from login.charania.no (login.charania.no [195.134.41.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 841AB37B401 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 09:04:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 6419 invoked by uid 0); 5 Feb 2001 17:20:58 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO egni) (195.134.41.50) by login.charania.no with SMTP; 5 Feb 2001 17:20:58 -0000 Message-ID: <000801c08f96$9953db90$4d01a8c0@egni> From: "Inge Kasbohm Amlien" To: Subject: Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:10:48 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C08F9E.F73D2C40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C08F9E.F73D2C40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C08F9E.F73D2C40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C08F9E.F73D2C40-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 5 11:57:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A15637B401 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:57:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA04547 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:57:05 -0800 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:56:59 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: mcclock funnies... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone but me been having amusements with reads from the mostek clock chip coming up as zero (instead of 01), causing the system to whine about date being off by 365 days? -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 5 13:14: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from netau1.alcanet.com.au (ntp.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE58737B4EC for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:13:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au (mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au [139.188.23.1]) by netau1.alcanet.com.au (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04121; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 08:12:58 +1100 (EDT) Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au by cim.alcatel.com.au (PMDF V5.2-32 #37640) with ESMTP id <01JZS792IWGW8ZIRFR@cim.alcatel.com.au>; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 08:12:57 +1100 Received: (from jeremyp@localhost) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f15LCuq76889; Tue, 06 Feb 2001 08:12:56 +1100 (EST envelope-from jeremyp) Content-return: prohibited Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 08:12:55 +1100 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: TGA Console and Alpha perfmon In-reply-to: <14974.44806.104312.206352@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 08:47:50AM -0500 To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-followup-to: Andrew Gallatin , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <20010206081255.O90937@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i References: <20010205095858.F90937@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> <14974.44806.104312.206352@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001-Feb-05 08:47:50 -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > >Peter Jeremy writes: > > In one of the regular "why can't I use a TGA as a console" threads, > > mention was made that the necessary information to actually write > > a driver is now available. Does anyone have a URL? > >I beleive it has been available for quite some time: >ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/misc/dec-docs/index.html#dsc-chip-21030 Thanks for that. The various search engines I used couldn't manage to map my query to that URL. >However, there is already a volunteer working on a TGA driver as we >speak. I suspected there might be. I'd be interested in helping/testing if he'd like. [alpha/Perfmon] >http://www.cs.duke.edu/ari/iprobe.html Thanks you for that. It looks like it is quite useful. Pity it's GPL'd so it can't go into the main tree (at least the kernel part). Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 5 14:59:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7189337B6BA for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 14:58:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id f15MwgQ26813 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK); Mon, 5 Feb 2001 23:58:44 +0100 (MET) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [fec0:0:0:104::5]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0.Beta1/8.11.0.Beta1) with ESMTP id f15Mwvr68097 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified NO); Mon, 5 Feb 2001 23:59:03 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f15MwqD00909; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 23:58:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 23:58:51 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Matthew Jacob Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mcclock funnies... Message-ID: <20010205235851.A548@cicely5.cicely.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 11:56:59AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 11:56:59AM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > Has anyone but me been having amusements with reads from the mostek clock chip > coming up as zero (instead of 01), causing the system to whine about date > being off by 365 days? Do you mean this: [...] FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #3: Sun Jan 28 10:09:35 CET 2001 ticso@cicely9.cicely.de:/var/d8/src-2001-01-26/src/sys/compile/CICELY9 EB164 Digital AlphaPC 164 500 MHz, 500MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=7 minor=2 extensions=0x1 OSF PAL rev: 0x1000800020117 [...] mcclock0: at port 0x70-0x71 on isa0 [...] WARNING: clock lost 365 days -- CHECK AND RESET THE DATE! [...] FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #2: Wed Jul 19 11:56:48 CEST 2000 bernd@srv1.cosmo-project.de:/usr/src-2000-07-08/src/sys/compile/SRV1 EB164 Digital AlphaPC 164 500 MHz, 500MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. CPU: EV56 (21164A) major=7 minor=2 extensions=0x1 OSF PAL rev: 0x1000800020117 [...] mcclock0: at port 0x70-0x71 on isa0 [...] WARNING: clock lost 365 days -- CHECK AND RESET THE DATE! These are on 2 different PC164 Systems with different FreeBSD versions. Both were never powered off more than some minutes. And my AXPpci33 (5 days sounds realistic): [...] FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #6: Sun Nov 26 20:24:29 CET 2000 ticso@cicely9.cicely.de:/var/d8/src-2000-11-20/src/sys/compile/CICELY10 DEC AXPpci Alpha PC AXPpci33, 166MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. CPU: LCA Family major=4 minor=2 OSF PAL rev: 0x100090002012d [...] mcclock0: at port 0x70-0x71 on isa0 [...] WARNING: clock gained 5 days -- CHECK AND RESET THE DATE! For my AXPpci33 I've also found 365 days with the same kernel in the syslog. Maybe it only happens when the system is only down for a short time. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 5 15: 7:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2BD537B4EC for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:07:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05373; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:06:57 -0800 Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:06:54 -0800 (PST) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Bernd Walter Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mcclock funnies... In-Reply-To: <20010205235851.A548@cicely5.cicely.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes. Apparently writes of 1 (for 2001) are confusing it. I thought it was just my one (possibly) flakey system. But guess not. I'll try *not* subtracting off the 100. This is not a y2k compliant chip, so some toe stubbing seems to need to occur. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Feb 5 15:50:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.du.gtn.com (mail.du.gtn.com [194.77.9.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D85037B6A2 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:49:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely.de [194.231.9.142]) by mail.du.gtn.com (8.11.0.Beta3/8.11.0.Beta3) with ESMTP id f15Nnhi00321 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK); Tue, 6 Feb 2001 00:49:45 +0100 (MET) Received: from cicely5.cicely.de (cicely5.cicely.de [fec0:0:0:104::5]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0.Beta1/8.11.0.Beta1) with ESMTP id f15No2r68370 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified NO); Tue, 6 Feb 2001 00:50:08 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f15No2O01060; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 00:50:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 00:50:01 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Matthew Jacob Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: mcclock funnies... Message-ID: <20010206005001.C548@cicely5.cicely.de> References: <20010205235851.A548@cicely5.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 03:06:54PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 03:06:54PM -0800, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > Yes. > > Apparently writes of 1 (for 2001) are confusing it. I thought it was just my > one (possibly) flakey system. But guess not. > > I'll try *not* subtracting off the 100. This is not a y2k compliant chip, so > some toe stubbing seems to need to occur. Up to now I asumed the warning to be harmless. But It looks like I'm fooling myself as I have ntpdate and ntpd in all my configs. A look into /var/run tells me that the system realy started a year behind. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 6 17:41:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mobile.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [65.0.135.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59C5137B401 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 17:41:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from netplex.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mobile.wemm.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f171bit53672; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 17:37:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@netplex.com.au) Message-Id: <200102070137.f171bit53672@mobile.wemm.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?G=E9rard_Roudier?= , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: bus_dmamap_load In-Reply-To: <14932.59983.360316.243974@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 17:37:44 -0800 From: Peter Wemm Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Gérard Roudier writes: > > Btw, you missed the `de' driver that also performs bus_dmamap_load() on > > mbuf's as a possible candidate. > > > > Does it actually do this? I see all the code protected by: > > #if defined(TULIP_BUS_DMA) > > But I do not see TULIP_BUS_DMA defined anywhered. I think it was > inherited from NetBSD and the define was clobbered in > > rev 1.19 of if_devar.h: > Unifdef -U__NetBSD__ > > > See: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/pci/if_devar.h.diff?r1=1.1 8&r2=1.19&f=h The code is still in the tree, but our bus_dma does not even remotely support the kind of thing that the NetBSD version has that the if_de driver uses. Our bus_dma is highly disk centric. The way the callbacks are set up makes it rather inconvenient to do things like bus_dmamap_load_mbuf() etc. I'd love somebody to fix it though. I have some de cards if somebody wants to implement it and tinker with it on a live system. It would probably require rewriting large chunks of code and/or pulling in parts of the NetBSD system now that they fixed the initial problems that caused Justin to diverge from the NetBSD original. There was lots of flamage over this at the time and I suspect it would not be hard to re-create it, so it would be best to keep discussions focused as we have quite a few NetBSD folk on this list. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 6 19:48:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from VL-MS-MR002.sc1.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C748937B491 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 19:48:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from jehovah ([24.201.144.31]) by VL-MS-MR002.sc1.videotron.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id G8DBWC04.HFL for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 22:48:12 -0500 Message-ID: <000801c090b9$14410990$1f90c918@jehovah> From: "Bosko Milekic" To: Subject: TEST REQUEST: Mutex Interface Changes+Cleanup Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 22:50:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings residents of the Alpha Quadrant (feel the Trekkie-ism kick in) :-) I do not have an Alpha, so please feel free to test the following code: http://people.freebsd.org/~bmilekic/code/mutex_cleanup-7.1.diff This runs fine on the i386, but I would like to know how it goes on the Alpha. I am planning to commit this within the next few days, unless any (final) objections arise, or unless your testing fails. So I'm depending on you folks to confirm how it works on the Alpha. You'll note that this patch is a significant change to the mutex lock interface, and places some of the lock acquire/release code back inline... which likely means less overhead for Alphas -- or so I hear -- apparently, function calls on Alphas can be expensive. I'm also curious as to why this is so (why the function calls on alphas are significantly expensive). So please feel free to enlighten me. :-) One last thing, I am _not_ subscribed to this list, so please leave me in the CC. Thanks! Regards, Bosko. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 6 20:39:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.interchange.ca (ns.interchange.ca [216.126.79.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E927137B401 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 20:39:34 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.interchange.ca (Fastmailer, from userid 555) id 45031227A; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 23:39:20 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3A80D178.00021D.01465@frodo.searchcanada.ca> Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_K9ED456VPRMPJEDD7TH0" To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Stable Support for AS1200 From: "Michael Richards" X-Fastmail-IP: 24.156.176.65 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 23:39:20 -0500 (EST) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------Boundary-00=_K9ED456VPRMPJEDD7TH0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi. I just got a pair of AlphaServer 1200's (Dual 533 CPU). I know very little about the Alpha but I chose these machines because they were very inexpensive and because I knew there was a FreeBSD port. When I got the first machine I downloaded the boot floppy and attempted to install. Reading the mailing list posts it doesn't look like it will work and certainly not support SMP. Is this accurate info or is it based on outdated info? I know one thing for certain, I'm not going to pay $7800 CAD per server for a Tru64 license! What are my options as far as FreeBSD-Alpha goes? Is it reasonable to expect the same level of stability as I have seen (hardware aside) from our Intel based FreeBSD boxen? -Michael _________________________________________________________________ http://fastmail.ca/ - Fast Free Web Email for Canadians --------------Boundary-00=_K9ED456VPRMPJEDD7TH0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 6 21:19:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from peorth.iteration.net (peorth.iteration.net [208.190.180.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F4A737B401 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 21:19:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by peorth.iteration.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 033DA57621; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 23:19:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 23:19:55 -0600 From: "Michael C . Wu" To: Michael Richards Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stable Support for AS1200 Message-ID: <20010206231955.B13708@peorth.iteration.net> Reply-To: "Michael C . Wu" Mail-Followup-To: "Michael C . Wu" , Michael Richards , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3A80D178.00021D.01465@frodo.searchcanada.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3A80D178.00021D.01465@frodo.searchcanada.ca>; from michael@fastmail.ca on Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 11:39:20PM -0500 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5025 F691 F943 8128 48A8 5025 77CE 29C5 8FA1 2E20 X-PGP-Key-ID: 0x8FA12E20 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 11:39:20PM -0500, Michael Richards scribbled: | I just got a pair of AlphaServer 1200's (Dual 533 CPU). I know very | little about the Alpha but I chose these machines because they were | very inexpensive and because I knew there was a FreeBSD port. They are also quite fast for that age. | When I got the first machine I downloaded the boot floppy and | attempted to install. Reading the mailing list posts it doesn't look | like it will work and certainly not support SMP. Is this accurate | info or is it based on outdated info? It is accurate info. No SMP on FreeBSD/Alpha | I know one thing for certain, I'm not going to pay $7800 CAD per | server for a Tru64 license! Sad truth is that you would get SMP out of using Linux. I do know that Linux/Alpha does not scale very well according to IBM Linux Technology Center internal documents that I have read. i.e. For a quad 21264 system, Linux/Alpha scales to 2.9-3 / 4 CPU's (Linux gets only 3 CPU performance out of having 4 processors. The comparison is zeroed against a Linux 2.4 UP kernel.) However, 3/4 CPU scalability is, sadly, much better than running FreeBSD/Alpha, because you only get to use one processor. | What are my options as far as FreeBSD-Alpha goes? Is it reasonable to Really, not much. | expect the same level of stability as I have seen (hardware aside) | from our Intel based FreeBSD boxen? Yes, if you are willing to use only one processor. In addition, Compaq released the DECUnix CC compiler for Linux for free. This makes all binaries compiled by the CCC compiler faster and smaller. If you use FreeBSD/Alpha, the Compaq CC is in the Ports. -- +------------------------------------------------------------------+ | keichii@peorth.iteration.net | keichii@bsdconspiracy.net | | http://peorth.iteration.net/~keichii | Yes, BSD is a conspiracy. | +------------------------------------------------------------------+ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Feb 6 23:24: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.interchange.ca (ns.interchange.ca [216.126.79.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C04C937B4EC for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 23:23:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.interchange.ca (Fastmailer, from userid 555) id 96F8D228D; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 02:23:35 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3A80F7F7.0001FF.01462@frodo.searchcanada.ca> Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_BVLDABRTZ6EOO49D7TH0" To: keichii@iteration.net Subject: Re: Stable Support for AS1200 Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Michael Richards" X-Fastmail-IP: 24.156.176.65 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 02:23:35 -0500 (EST) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------Boundary-00=_BVLDABRTZ6EOO49D7TH0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi. > It is accurate info. No SMP on FreeBSD/Alpha There is no SMP right now. Is any SMPage planned? Especially for 5.0 whenever that comes out? I hear it's supposed to be a major overhaul of the kernel with respect to SMP. > I do know that Linux/Alpha does not scale very well according to > IBM Linux Technology Center internal documents that I have read. > i.e. For a quad 21264 system, Linux/Alpha scales to 2.9-3 / 4 > CPU's (Linux gets only 3 CPU performance out of having 4 > processors. The comparison is zeroed against a Linux 2.4 UP > kernel.) This co-incides with information I have read when I was working for IBM as well. I'm not interested in running Linux. There is a very good reason I chose to run FreeBSD on our production machines. > Yes, if you are willing to use only one processor. I guess I will have to take another stab at installing it. Perhaps a non-floppy type install would be better. > In addition, Compaq released the DECUnix CC compiler for Linux > for free. This makes all binaries compiled by the CCC compiler > faster and smaller. If you use FreeBSD/Alpha, the Compaq CC is > in the Ports. Does this compiler compile to native FreeBSD or native linux? -Michael _________________________________________________________________ http://fastmail.ca/ - Fast Free Web Email for Canadians --------------Boundary-00=_BVLDABRTZ6EOO49D7TH0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 7 0:30:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B793237B491 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 00:29:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f178TrJ97857; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 00:29:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 00:29:53 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Michael Richards Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stable Support for AS1200 Message-ID: <20010207002953.B41788@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3A80F7F7.0001FF.01462@frodo.searchcanada.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3A80F7F7.0001FF.01462@frodo.searchcanada.ca>; from michael@fastmail.ca on Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 02:23:35AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 02:23:35AM -0500, Michael Richards wrote: > > In addition, Compaq released the DECUnix CC compiler for Linux > > for free. This makes all binaries compiled by the CCC compiler > > faster and smaller. If you use FreeBSD/Alpha, the Compaq CC is > > in the Ports. > > Does this compiler compile to native FreeBSD or native linux? Native FreeBSD. I've hacked the Compaq CC and its installation quite a bit. Make sure you install it via ports, and not by hand. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 7 2:11:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from teebar.directski.com (mauer.directski.com [193.95.161.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2859637B67D for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 02:10:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from directski.com (dermot.traveldev.com [192.168.0.50]) by teebar.directski.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f17AApq05269; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 10:10:52 GMT (envelope-from dermot@directski.com) Message-ID: <3A811F2D.1285A5B3@directski.com> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 10:10:53 +0000 From: Dermot McNally X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: de,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Michael C . Wu" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stable Support for AS1200 References: <3A80D178.00021D.01465@frodo.searchcanada.ca> <20010206231955.B13708@peorth.iteration.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Michael C . Wu" wrote: > In addition, Compaq released the DECUnix CC compiler for Linux > for free. This makes all binaries compiled by the CCC compiler > faster and smaller. If you use FreeBSD/Alpha, the Compaq CC is > in the Ports. On the subject of the Compaq compiler, I can't build the port, as one of the files required has been pulled from the Compaq site (and replaced with a newer version). Should I expect somebody to update the port, or will I go looking for the old file? Dermot -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Dermot McNally, Chief Technical Officer, Directski.com dermot@directski.com http://www.directski.com - ski the web To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 7 3: 0:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE7D37B491 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 03:00:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f17B07v05393; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 03:00:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 03:00:06 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Dermot McNally Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stable Support for AS1200 Message-ID: <20010207030006.C41788@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3A80D178.00021D.01465@frodo.searchcanada.ca> <20010206231955.B13708@peorth.iteration.net> <3A811F2D.1285A5B3@directski.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3A811F2D.1285A5B3@directski.com>; from dermot@directski.com on Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 10:10:53AM +0000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 10:10:53AM +0000, Dermot McNally wrote: > On the subject of the Compaq compiler, I can't build the port, as one of > the files required has been pulled from the Compaq site (and replaced > with a newer version). Should I expect somebody to update the port, or > will I go looking for the old file? Only if someone bothers to tell me that this has happened.... Of course it would be easiest for me if you tell me which file it is so I don't have to delete all of them locally and try to refetch each of those large files... -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 7 3: 4:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from teebar.directski.com (mauer.directski.com [193.95.161.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E92237B401; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 03:04:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from directski.com (dermot.traveldev.com [192.168.0.50]) by teebar.directski.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f17B4Tq05636; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:04:29 GMT (envelope-from dermot@directski.com) Message-ID: <3A812BBE.3F44A3B9@directski.com> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 11:04:30 +0000 From: Dermot McNally X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: de,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Stable Support for AS1200 References: <3A80D178.00021D.01465@frodo.searchcanada.ca> <20010206231955.B13708@peorth.iteration.net> <3A811F2D.1285A5B3@directski.com> <20010207030006.C41788@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien wrote: > Only if someone bothers to tell me that this has happened.... > Of course it would be easiest for me if you tell me which file it is so I > don't have to delete all of them locally and try to refetch each of those > large files... Fair point - it was more of a general question, but since you ask... ccc-6.2.9.504-2.alpha.rpm That said, there may be others, that was just the first one needed. Thanks, Dermot -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Dermot McNally, Chief Technical Officer, Directski.com dermot@directski.com http://www.directski.com - ski the web To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 7 6:31: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp [133.9.152.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6055837B491; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 06:30:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (fujimori@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) with ESMTP id XAA02392; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 23:30:45 +0900 Message-Id: <200102071430.XAA02392@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Native FreeBSD by Compaq's ccc In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 07 Feb 2001 00:29:53 PST." <20010207002953.B41788@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 23:30:45 +0000 From: Yoriaki FUJIMORI Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I read that ccc creates native FreeBSD. I am interested in this. I had a quick look at ftp.freebsd.org. I could not find something like ccc-6.2.504-x.alpha.rpm, though. I am running ccc/cxx/fort on Linux-emulator. They work fine. Meanwhile, I copied them to different directories, and I tried to compile small source files with FreeBSD libraries by using FreeBSD's as and ld, but brandelf reported that they are still not FreeBSD. Am I doing something wrong? How can I get ccc-6.2.504.xx, which is added to port collection, without running cvs? Thanks for your attention. Yoriaki FUJIMORI P.S. The latest ccc is ccc-6.2.504.10.alpha.rpm for SuSE7.0. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 7 12:55: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45E6A37B401 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:54:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f17KsYT63900; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:54:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 12:54:34 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Yoriaki FUJIMORI Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Native FreeBSD by Compaq's ccc Message-ID: <20010207125434.A57024@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20010207002953.B41788@dragon.nuxi.com> <200102071430.XAA02392@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200102071430.XAA02392@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp>; from fujimori@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp on Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 11:30:45PM +0000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Feb 07, 2001 at 11:30:45PM +0000, Yoriaki FUJIMORI wrote: > I could not find something like ccc-6.2.504-x.alpha.rpm, though. ... > P.S. The latest ccc is ccc-6.2.504.10.alpha.rpm for SuSE7.0. The port is now updated to the 6.2.9.506.1_1 version. Enjoy! -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 7 13:35:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F06B37B69F for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:34:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f17LYT165070; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:34:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 13:34:29 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Peter Jeremy Cc: Andrew Gallatin , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TGA Console and Alpha perfmon Message-ID: <20010207133429.C64612@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010205095858.F90937@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> <14974.44806.104312.206352@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20010206081255.O90937@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010206081255.O90937@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au>; from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au on Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 08:12:55AM +1100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 08:12:55AM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote: > [alpha/Perfmon] > >http://www.cs.duke.edu/ari/iprobe.html > > Thanks you for that. It looks like it is quite useful. Pity it's > GPL'd so it can't go into the main tree (at least the kernel part). It can go into the kernel tree in /sys/gnu -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 7 17:34:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from neutrino.quantum.net (modemcable238.45-201-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca [24.201.45.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11B3537B491 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 17:34:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from videotron.ca (client33.quantum.net [192.168.56.33]) by neutrino.quantum.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f181YYE05519 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 20:34:34 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A81F7AA.4060305@videotron.ca> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 20:34:34 -0500 From: tcn Reply-To: leclercn@videotron.ca User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001108 Netscape6/6.0 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha Subject: Cross compiler - i386, Hylafax problem status Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Is there a project of a port to cross compile i386 code? Oh, and my attempts on running hylafax failed. I haven't had time to work on it since but I'll see what I can dish out of this problem. Right now, opening FIFO files with write only access fails (when I try, the systems waits for something... Have to kill the program.), opening them read/write seems to cause problems to hylafax (it's not dialing at all!). Normand Leclerc lecn1306@ele.etsmtl.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Feb 7 22:46:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp [133.9.152.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6367537B65D; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 22:46:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (fujimori@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) with ESMTP id PAA04659; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 15:46:17 +0900 Message-Id: <200102080646.PAA04659@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Cc: obrien@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Native FreeBSD by Compaq's ccc In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 07 Feb 2001 12:54:34 PST." <20010207125434.A57024@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 15:46:17 +0000 From: Yoriaki FUJIMORI Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I got ccc-6.2.9.506-1.tar.gz from Compaq's web. After running rpm2cpio, I installed it. I tried for short junk time to make FreeBSD natives from ccc. In short, if I specify options `-std0 -non_shared' and if the source can be compiled without errors, then I get FreeBSD natives. Resulting binaries are big, though. I even tried to remake shared libraries from libxxx.a by means of FreeBSD's gcc with `-shared ...blahblah', but this does not seem much help. Yoriaki FUJIMORI To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Feb 8 6:33:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A410C37B503; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 06:33:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00478; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:33:23 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.9.1) id f18EWk805405; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:32:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14978.44558.740049.561022@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:32:46 -0500 (EST) To: obrien@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OSF/1 binaries In-Reply-To: <20010207135813.E64612@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <200102011621.f11GLAu05080@venus.sunquest.com> <14969.36296.926588.262493@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20010207135813.E64612@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien writes: > On Thu, Feb 01, 2001 at 11:35:59AM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > The osf1 shared libraries and shared-lib loader (the /sbin/loader you > > refered to above) are distributed by Compaq as part of a Netscape rpm > > for alpha linux. I don't think we are allowed to ship them > > separately, so they are not included on your CDs. > > We do. They *should* be in the Alpha 4.2 CD #1. Oh.. I hadn're realized that it had changed. Cool! Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Feb 8 6:43:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC8BC37B503; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 06:43:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00654; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:43:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.1/8.9.1) id f18Egcg05420; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:42:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14978.45150.683372.739952@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 09:42:38 -0500 (EST) To: Yoriaki FUJIMORI Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Native FreeBSD by Compaq's ccc In-Reply-To: <200102080646.PAA04659@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> References: <20010207125434.A57024@dragon.nuxi.com> <200102080646.PAA04659@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yoriaki FUJIMORI writes: > > I got ccc-6.2.9.506-1.tar.gz from Compaq's web. > After running rpm2cpio, I installed it. > > I tried for short junk time to make FreeBSD natives from ccc. > In short, if I specify options `-std0 -non_shared' and if the source > can be compiled without errors, then I get FreeBSD natives. > Resulting binaries are big, though. > > I even tried to remake shared libraries from libxxx.a by means of > FreeBSD's gcc with `-shared ...blahblah', but this does not seem much help. > > Yoriaki FUJIMORI Prior to running the compiler "natively", you must remove the linux_devtools port, and you must also remove any installations of the ccc/c++/fort compilers and cpml from /compat/linux. If you fail to do this, the "native" ccc compiler, which is actually a linux executable, will search /compat/linux first and find the linux ccc config files, headers & libraries. This is bad. Also, it is not clear to me that you are actually running the port & not rolling your own. Please use the port. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Feb 8 10:14:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F8937B69F for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 10:14:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f18IFu300823; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 10:15:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200102081815.f18IFu300823@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: " " Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: new problem!!! In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 08 Feb 2001 19:47:23 +0700." <200102081047.f18AlNM19851@user10.orgio.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 10:15:56 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >
I am sorry, bothering you with questions again and again.
> Although not satisfied, I had set up the system for your support.
> But I faced up to a difficult problem again.
> So, I have to ask for you once more.
> Basically, I finished set up using serial console.  =

> But I don't use the terminal because it stop justly before login.

This would be because you haven't enabled the terminal in /etc/ttys.

> I met this monitor when I tried to correct that problem.  =

>         isp0 : bus reset destroyed command for 000
>         halted cpu 0
>         halt code=3D2
>         kernel stack not valid halt
>         pc =3D fffffc0000575e6c
>         warning -- HWRPB is invalid
> (I think isp0 is SCSI card.   I don't know HWRPB.)
> =

> Could you tell me something about that.
> I have no alternative, help me!!!

You have plenty of alternatives.  I've copied you to one - the =

freebsd-alpha mailing list at alpha@freebsd.org.  I can't help you with =

the Qlogic problem you have there.

-- =

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to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force
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I've just upgraded a Multia from -stable to -current and the PCI
interrupts no longer make sense.  dmesg shows:

sym0: <810> port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x81000000-0x810000ff irq 0 at device 6.0 on pci0
sym0: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-10, SE, parity checking
sym0: interrupting at ISA irq 0
isab0:  at device 7.0 on pci0
isa0:  on isab0
de0:  port 0x10100-0x1017f mem 0x81000100-0x8100017f irq 110 at device 8.0 on pci0
de0: couldn't map interrupt
device_probe_and_attach: de0 attach returned 6

Under -stable, I had ncr0 at irq11 and de0 at irq15.

Whilst the disk on sym0 still seems to be working (I can read and
write and my writes wind up on the disk media), the loss of de0 is
fairly painful.

Does anyone have any suggestions?

Peter


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On 2001-Feb-09 10:39:18 +1100, Peter Jeremy  wrote:
>I've just upgraded a Multia from -stable to -current and the PCI
>interrupts no longer make sense.  dmesg shows:

After much poking around in the kernel...

In -stable, the Alpha interrupts are re-arranged in pci_read_device()
immediately after the config registers are read.

In -current, a new route_interrupt() method has been created.  This
method should be invoked via the alloc_resource() method for interrupt
requests.

In my Multia, pci_read_device() (invoked from from pci_add_children())
is reading initialised (!= 255) but incorrect intline values from the
PCI device configuration registers.  When the device attach() method
invokes pci_alloc_resource(), intline!=255 so the PCIB_ROUTE_INTERRUPT()
call is skipped - leaving an invalid IRQ value.  In particular,
dec_axppci_33_intr_route() is never called at all.

I'm not sure what the correct fix is.  I kludged it by just deleting
the check for intline!=255 in pci_alloc_resource() - but that is a
hack that just happens to work for me.  I'm not sure whether this
is a bug in the SRM, AXPpci/33 or LCA - which makes it difficult to
work out where to fix it.

Peter


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Date: Fri, 9 Feb 2001 13:14:53 +0100
From: Bernd Walter 
To: Peter Jeremy 
Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Re: Nonsense IRQs in -current
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On Fri, Feb 09, 2001 at 09:59:17PM +1100, Peter Jeremy wrote:
> On 2001-Feb-09 10:39:18 +1100, Peter Jeremy  wrote:
> >I've just upgraded a Multia from -stable to -current and the PCI
> >interrupts no longer make sense.  dmesg shows:
> 
> After much poking around in the kernel...
> 
> In -stable, the Alpha interrupts are re-arranged in pci_read_device()
> immediately after the config registers are read.
> 
> In -current, a new route_interrupt() method has been created.  This
> method should be invoked via the alloc_resource() method for interrupt
> requests.
> 
> In my Multia, pci_read_device() (invoked from from pci_add_children())
> is reading initialised (!= 255) but incorrect intline values from the
> PCI device configuration registers.  When the device attach() method
> invokes pci_alloc_resource(), intline!=255 so the PCIB_ROUTE_INTERRUPT()
> call is skipped - leaving an invalid IRQ value.  In particular,
> dec_axppci_33_intr_route() is never called at all.
> 
> I'm not sure what the correct fix is.  I kludged it by just deleting
> the check for intline!=255 in pci_alloc_resource() - but that is a
> hack that just happens to work for me.  I'm not sure whether this
> is a bug in the SRM, AXPpci/33 or LCA - which makes it difficult to
> work out where to fix it.

On my rather old -current AXPpci33 everthing looks ok.
If the problem also applies to AXPpci33 it will probably mean that the
reason was introduced later.

FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #6: Sun Nov 26 20:24:29 CET 2000
    ticso@cicely9.cicely.de:/var/d8/src-2000-11-20/src/sys/compile/CICELY10
DEC AXPpci
Alpha PC AXPpci33, 166MHz
8192 byte page size, 1 processor.
CPU: LCA Family major=4 minor=2
OSF PAL rev: 0x100090002012d
real memory  = 31481856 (30744K bytes)
avail memory = 24813568 (24232K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel.ko" at 0xfffffc0000650000.
lca0: <21066 Core Logic chipset>
pci0:  on pcib0
sym0: <810> port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x81040400-0x810404ff irq 11 at device 6.0 on pci0
sym0: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-10, SE, parity checking
sym0: interrupting at ISA irq 11
isab0:  at device 7.0 on pci0
isa0:  on isab0
dc0:  port 0x10180-0x101ff mem 0x81040000-0x810403ff irq 5 at device 11.0 on pci0
dc0: interrupting at ISA irq 5
dc0: Ethernet address: 00:00:cb:56:2e:2a
miibus0:  on dc0
ukphy0:  on miibus0
ukphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
de0:  port 0x10100-0x1017f mem 0x81040500-0x8104057f irq 9 at device 12.0 on pci0
de0: interrupting at ISA irq 9
de0: Cogent 21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.3
de0: address 00:00:92:90:7f:26
fdc0:  at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
fdc0: interrupting at ISA irq 6
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
atkbdc0:  at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0:  irq 1 on atkbdc0
atkbd0: interrupting at ISA irq 1
vga0:  at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
sc0:  on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x0>
mcclock0:  at port 0x70-0x71 on isa0
sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A, console
sio0: interrupting at ISA irq 4
sio1: reserved for low-level i/o
[...]

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B.Walter              COSMO-Project         http://www.cosmo-project.de
ticso@cicely.de         Usergroup           info@cosmo-project.de



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From owner-freebsd-alpha  Sat Feb 10 19:12:57 2001
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Subject: HEADSUP: qlogic perturbation...
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I'm upgrading firmware sets (later tonite) that I use for all the Qlogic HBA
boards- there've been wads && wads 'o bugs fixed.

But because the Alpha depends heavily on the 1040 at least, this may pork you
if things break because of this. Let me know if you see such perturbations.




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