From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Apr 15 11:58: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AAD837B424; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 11:58:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14orig-0004k9-00; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 18:57:59 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3FIF5d78407; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 20:15:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 20:15:05 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Andrew Gallatin , John Baldwin , alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alpha woes.. Message-ID: <20010415201505.A78387@freebie.demon.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from wkb@freebie.demon.nl on Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 01:58:37AM +0000 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-RC X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Apr 11, 2001 at 01:58:37AM +0000, Wilko Bulte wrote: Well, from looking at my MX5 PCI riser: J15 connector V--- lot of more pins ... o o o ... o o o ^--- rightmost pins ^ ^----- these 2 appear to be the halt button. Give it a sho[r]t I guess.. Wilko > > John Baldwin writes: > > > > > > Hmm, I did see that little pushbutton there and had wondered about that. Of > > > course, this means I need to leave the case off all the time now. :-P > > > > I could have sworn that you could wire the little front button to do > > it too, but I can't find any docs on that. > > > > Sorry, > > > > Drew > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > > > -- > | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte http://www.freebsd.org > http://www.nlfug.nl > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte FreeBSD/alpha Powered http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 16 1: 7:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9439C37B424; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 01:07:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14p437-0002dG-00; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:07:53 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3G82bg81042; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:02:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:02:37 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthew Jacob Cc: "David O'Brien" , alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ALpha 4100 boot issues Message-ID: <20010416100237.A81019@freebie.demon.nl> References: <20010406102040.A18676@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 04:05:26PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-RC X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 04:05:26PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: Matt, do you think I should put this in the RELNOTES for 4.3R ? I think I should. Wilko > [ cc'd to -alpha for broadcast ] > > The problem was one of the following two problems: > > 1. The Qlogic SCSI controller being booted from does not work if it is not in > hose 0 (upper left, looking from rear). > > 2. If the QLogic SCSI controller is the 'bridged' DEC part (i.e., the part > that has a 21150 bridge and the QLogic behind that), booting doesn't work. > > > I'm not sure which, if any, it really is. I'm inclined to think that #1 may be > broken for -current because hose 1 has the EISA console, and that there might > be some funny interaction ther. > > I'm inclined to think that #2 might be broken period for -stable because we > don't have clean hose management in -stable, IIRC. > > -matt > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 11:18:01AM +0000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > As for testing: has AS4[01]00 been tested succesfully? I'm using > > > > Speaking of AS4100 testing... Matt could you write a sentence or two > > speaking of the problem the BSDi 4100 had and the limitations 4100 users > > have to be aware of? It would be good to get it documented. > > ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte FreeBSD/alpha Powered http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 16 1:59:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp [133.9.152.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1190437B423 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 01:59:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fujimori@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp) Received: from grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (fujimori@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) with ESMTP id RAA06025 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:59:55 +0900 Message-Id: <200104160859.RAA06025@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: libXaw.so broken(?) on 4.3RC2 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 17:59:55 +0000 From: Yoriaki FUJIMORI Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Folks, I have been testing some of end-user binaries on 4.3RC2. When I tried running scilab-2.6 binary for osf1, I noticed that /sbin/loader reports Fatal Error: cannot map libXaw.so The same binary runs perfectly on 4.2R and 4.3-beta. FreeBSD/Alpha boxes in my lab have got the same setting as clusters, except ip-addresses and identity names. I tried to reinstall 4.3RC2 on that alpha box, but got the same result. I did `make world' and rebuilt whole XFree86 system, but it still would not solve the problem. Has anyone experienced same problem? Thanks a lot in advance for any info. Yoriaki Fujimori To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 16 7: 2:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F96237B43C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 07:02:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA29974; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:02:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f3GE24n36693; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:02:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15066.64348.312828.115232@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 10:02:04 -0400 (EDT) To: Yoriaki FUJIMORI Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: libXaw.so broken(?) on 4.3RC2 In-Reply-To: <200104160859.RAA06025@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> References: <200104160859.RAA06025@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yoriaki FUJIMORI writes: > Folks, > I have been testing some of end-user binaries on 4.3RC2. > When I tried running scilab-2.6 binary for osf1, I noticed that > /sbin/loader reports > Fatal Error: cannot map libXaw.so > > The same binary runs perfectly on 4.2R and 4.3-beta. > FreeBSD/Alpha boxes in my lab have got the same setting as clusters, > except ip-addresses and identity names. > I tried to reinstall 4.3RC2 on that alpha box, but got the same result. > I did `make world' and rebuilt whole XFree86 system, but it still would not > solve the problem. No, it won't solve the problem. The complaint from "/sbin/loader" means that an OSF/1 binary failed to find an OSF/1 shared library. Building world will not help. Nor will re-installing osf1_base help, as this library is not included in it. You must have manually installed the libXaw.so library on your machines where scilab works. I'd suggest copying the library to the same location on the failing machine. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 16 8:57: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7477F37B423; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:57:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA20908; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:56:56 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 08:56:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Wilko Bulte Cc: "David O'Brien" , alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ALpha 4100 boot issues In-Reply-To: <20010416100237.A81019@freebie.demon.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't know. Now that there's a new boot block and if I can get a free hour or two, I'll try again. On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 04:05:26PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > Matt, do you think I should put this in the RELNOTES for 4.3R ? > I think I should. > > Wilko > > > [ cc'd to -alpha for broadcast ] > > > > The problem was one of the following two problems: > > > > 1. The Qlogic SCSI controller being booted from does not work if it is not in > > hose 0 (upper left, looking from rear). > > > > 2. If the QLogic SCSI controller is the 'bridged' DEC part (i.e., the part > > that has a 21150 bridge and the QLogic behind that), booting doesn't work. > > > > > > I'm not sure which, if any, it really is. I'm inclined to think that #1 may be > > broken for -current because hose 1 has the EISA console, and that there might > > be some funny interaction ther. > > > > I'm inclined to think that #2 might be broken period for -stable because we > > don't have clean hose management in -stable, IIRC. > > > > -matt > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 11:18:01AM +0000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > As for testing: has AS4[01]00 been tested succesfully? I'm using > > > > > > Speaking of AS4100 testing... Matt could you write a sentence or two > > > speaking of the problem the BSDi 4100 had and the limitations 4100 users > > > have to be aware of? It would be good to get it documented. > > > > ---end of quoted text--- > > -- > | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte FreeBSD/alpha Powered http://www.freebsd.org > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 16 11:11:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B3437B446; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:11:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21572; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:11:32 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 11:11:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Wilko Bulte Cc: "David O'Brien" , alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ALpha 4100 boot issues In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Achhh.... Never send mail before first coffee.... Let's try this again: 1. For -stable, it's an open guess as to whether bridged cards will work at all on Alpha 4100 (we need the rewrite of Alpha BusSpace stuff that then allowed hose stuff to not have to be encapsulated inside a 32 bit PCI address). This should, however, work in -current, but has not been fully tested yet. 2. It's as yet unclear what the relationship between card placement in any one hose and bootability. This still needs to be proven one way or the other. These might go into RELNOTES. -matt On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > I don't know. Now that there's a new boot block and if I can get a free hour > or two, I'll try again. > > > On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 04:05:26PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > Matt, do you think I should put this in the RELNOTES for 4.3R ? > > I think I should. > > > > Wilko > > > > > [ cc'd to -alpha for broadcast ] > > > > > > The problem was one of the following two problems: > > > > > > 1. The Qlogic SCSI controller being booted from does not work if it is not in > > > hose 0 (upper left, looking from rear). > > > > > > 2. If the QLogic SCSI controller is the 'bridged' DEC part (i.e., the part > > > that has a 21150 bridge and the QLogic behind that), booting doesn't work. > > > > > > > > > I'm not sure which, if any, it really is. I'm inclined to think that #1 may be > > > broken for -current because hose 1 has the EISA console, and that there might > > > be some funny interaction ther. > > > > > > I'm inclined to think that #2 might be broken period for -stable because we > > > don't have clean hose management in -stable, IIRC. > > > > > > -matt > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 11:18:01AM +0000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > > As for testing: has AS4[01]00 been tested succesfully? I'm using > > > > > > > > Speaking of AS4100 testing... Matt could you write a sentence or two > > > > speaking of the problem the BSDi 4100 had and the limitations 4100 users > > > > have to be aware of? It would be good to get it documented. > > > > > > ---end of quoted text--- > > > > -- > > | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org > > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte FreeBSD/alpha Powered http://www.freebsd.org > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 16 20:24:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from suntana.fh-konstanz.de (suntana.fh-konstanz.de [141.37.9.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF3BC37B449 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:24:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vahe@fh-konstanz.de) Received: from vvl10 (vvl10.fh-konstanz.de [141.37.112.110]) by suntana.fh-konstanz.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id FAA20308 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 05:24:13 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <000101c0c6ee$e5ea0850$6e70258d@vvl10.fh-konstanz.de> From: "Vahe Khachikyan" To: Subject: X crushes the whole system Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 04:31:32 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have a problem and just wondering if this happened to someone else. I got an AplhaStation200 4/166 without Video. I have Updated the SRM to latest version, put Video card inside , Installed FreeBSD 4.2 is OK perfect. Everything is well but when I try to start Xfree (3.3.x / 4.x) with S3 Trio card I get nothing more than strange vertical lines on X screen VESA mode any resolution and with ATI Mach 64 card I get 640x480 in vga mode and system crash to SRM console in any accel mode. Please if somebody has some experience with this problem let me know cause now I'm using this computer with other X terminal. Best regards -- Vahe --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 16 21:42:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from cherry.slurpee.org (dsl081-112-220.dfw1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.112.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 07A0837B43C for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 21:42:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@slurpee.org) Received: (qmail 19066 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2001 03:41:33 -0000 Received: from dsl081-112-220.dfw1.dsl.speakeasy.net (jon@64.81.112.220) by dsl081-112-220.dfw1.dsl.speakeasy.net with SMTP; 17 Apr 2001 03:41:33 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:41:33 -0500 (CDT) From: jon To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: pc164lx not booting Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a pc164lx and was able to boot a linux install floppy, and install linux, but never able to boot, so I decided to try freebsd w/ hopes of better luck. It didnt happen :) whenever I have the kern.flp and boot from it the machine just hangs at the bootstrap sequence. I know that the hardware is in working condition, and I tried the suggestion to 'set console graphics', but nothing seems to be working. It hangs at the same place if I boot from floppy as if I boot from cdrom. Let me know if anyone has any suggestions. Thanks jon allen jon@slurpee.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 16 23:13:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp [133.9.152.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C879C37B422 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:13:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fujimori@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp) Received: from grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (fujimori@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) with ESMTP id PAA09011; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:13:13 +0900 Message-Id: <200104170613.PAA09011@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> To: jon Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pc164lx not booting In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 16 Apr 2001 22:41:33 EST." Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:13:13 +0000 From: Yoriaki FUJIMORI Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Let me confirm that you are facing the SRM console on your pc164lx box. Right? Then, which of Linux distributions did you try on your box? Yoriaki Fujimori To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 16 23:21:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from cherry.slurpee.org (dsl081-112-220.dfw1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.112.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 80B1A37B423 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:21:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@slurpee.org) Received: (qmail 20908 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2001 05:20:39 -0000 Received: from dsl081-112-220.dfw1.dsl.speakeasy.net (jon@64.81.112.220) by dsl081-112-220.dfw1.dsl.speakeasy.net with SMTP; 17 Apr 2001 05:20:39 -0000 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:20:39 -0500 (CDT) From: jon To: Yoriaki FUJIMORI Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pc164lx not booting In-Reply-To: <200104170613.PAA09011@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yeah. I'm at the srm console (graphics). I've tried the boot floppies (lx164) for redhat 7.0 and 5.2 (a friend told me to try them, he had more luck w/ 5.2). I'm trying to get freebsd to boot at this point in time, but its just hanging at the "jumping bootstrap..." part. On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Yoriaki FUJIMORI wrote: > > Let me confirm that you are facing the SRM console on your pc164lx box. > Right? > Then, which of Linux distributions did you try on your box? > > Yoriaki Fujimori > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 16 23:23: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from shell-beach.layer8.net (black-3.dsl.speakeasy.net [216.231.56.189]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5AD5037B424 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:23:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@layer8.net) Received: (qmail 43362 invoked by uid 1000); 17 Apr 2001 06:21:42 -0000 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:21:42 -0700 From: Ben Black To: jon Cc: Yoriaki FUJIMORI , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: pc164lx not booting Message-ID: <20010416232142.A41310@layer8.net> References: <200104170613.PAA09011@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jon@slurpee.org on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 12:20:39AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org the srm console isn't graphic. linux uses the arc console (which is the graphical one). that is why freebsd won't boot. On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 12:20:39AM -0500, jon wrote: > Yeah. I'm at the srm console (graphics). I've tried the boot floppies > (lx164) for redhat 7.0 and 5.2 (a friend told me to try them, he had more > luck w/ 5.2). I'm trying to get freebsd to boot at this point in time, but > its just hanging at the "jumping bootstrap..." part. > > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Yoriaki FUJIMORI wrote: > > > > > Let me confirm that you are facing the SRM console on your pc164lx box. > > Right? > > Then, which of Linux distributions did you try on your box? > > > > Yoriaki Fujimori > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 16 23:24:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD0F737B43F for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:24:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA29518; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:23:03 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:23:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: jon Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pc164lx not booting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Have you tried the 4.3-RC floppy images? On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, jon wrote: > Yeah. I'm at the srm console (graphics). I've tried the boot floppies > (lx164) for redhat 7.0 and 5.2 (a friend told me to try them, he had more > luck w/ 5.2). I'm trying to get freebsd to boot at this point in time, but > its just hanging at the "jumping bootstrap..." part. > > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Yoriaki FUJIMORI wrote: > > > > > Let me confirm that you are facing the SRM console on your pc164lx box. > > Right? > > Then, which of Linux distributions did you try on your box? > > > > Yoriaki Fujimori > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 16 23:25:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from cherry.slurpee.org (dsl081-112-220.dfw1.dsl.speakeasy.net [64.81.112.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE8C937B424 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:25:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon@slurpee.org) Received: (qmail 21063 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2001 05:24:32 -0000 Received: from dsl081-112-220.dfw1.dsl.speakeasy.net (jon@64.81.112.220) by dsl081-112-220.dfw1.dsl.speakeasy.net with SMTP; 17 Apr 2001 05:24:32 -0000 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 00:24:31 -0500 (CDT) From: jon To: Matthew Jacob Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pc164lx not booting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org yep, using the kern.flp from 4.3rc2 On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > Have you tried the 4.3-RC floppy images? > > > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, jon wrote: > > > Yeah. I'm at the srm console (graphics). I've tried the boot floppies > > (lx164) for redhat 7.0 and 5.2 (a friend told me to try them, he had more > > luck w/ 5.2). I'm trying to get freebsd to boot at this point in time, but > > its just hanging at the "jumping bootstrap..." part. > > > > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Yoriaki FUJIMORI wrote: > > > > > > > > Let me confirm that you are facing the SRM console on your pc164lx box. > > > Right? > > > Then, which of Linux distributions did you try on your box? > > > > > > Yoriaki Fujimori > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 16 23:26: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EC8C37B43E for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:25:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA29544; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:25:56 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:25:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: jon Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pc164lx not booting In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hmm, well, that shoots one theory down. On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, jon wrote: > yep, using the kern.flp from 4.3rc2 > > On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > > Have you tried the 4.3-RC floppy images? > > > > > > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, jon wrote: > > > > > Yeah. I'm at the srm console (graphics). I've tried the boot floppies > > > (lx164) for redhat 7.0 and 5.2 (a friend told me to try them, he had more > > > luck w/ 5.2). I'm trying to get freebsd to boot at this point in time, but > > > its just hanging at the "jumping bootstrap..." part. > > > > > > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Yoriaki FUJIMORI wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Let me confirm that you are facing the SRM console on your pc164lx box. > > > > Right? > > > > Then, which of Linux distributions did you try on your box? > > > > > > > > Yoriaki Fujimori > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Apr 16 23:26:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 578BA37B43E for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:26:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA29535; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:25:41 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 23:25:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Ben Black Cc: jon , Yoriaki FUJIMORI , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: pc164lx not booting In-Reply-To: <20010416232142.A41310@layer8.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Uh, no, there is a SRM 'graphics' console. On Mon, 16 Apr 2001, Ben Black wrote: > the srm console isn't graphic. linux uses the arc console (which is the > graphical one). that is why freebsd won't boot. > > On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 12:20:39AM -0500, jon wrote: > > Yeah. I'm at the srm console (graphics). I've tried the boot floppies > > (lx164) for redhat 7.0 and 5.2 (a friend told me to try them, he had more > > luck w/ 5.2). I'm trying to get freebsd to boot at this point in time, but > > its just hanging at the "jumping bootstrap..." part. > > > > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Yoriaki FUJIMORI wrote: > > > > > > > > Let me confirm that you are facing the SRM console on your pc164lx box. > > > Right? > > > Then, which of Linux distributions did you try on your box? > > > > > > Yoriaki Fujimori > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 17 7:44:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from suntana.fh-konstanz.de (suntana.fh-konstanz.de [141.37.9.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B42037B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 07:44:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vahe@fh-konstanz.de) Received: from vvl10 (vvl10.fh-konstanz.de [141.37.112.110]) by suntana.fh-konstanz.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA24055 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:44:34 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <024501c0c74d$f0c44e20$6e70258d@vvl10.fh-konstanz.de> From: "Vahe Khachikyan" To: "FreeBSD-alpha" Subject: AlphaStation200 & XFree & Mach64 || S3Trio Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:51:53 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All, I am just wondering if the same thing happened to someone else ---Prehistory------ Recently I got an AlphaStation 200 4/166 and Intsalled FreeBSD 4.2 on it. I am not new to this system and know it quite well from i386. The computer was with quite old SRM console so I have updated it before installing the system. System is OK Everything is running --- ------------- --- Problem ---------- Just one problem I am unable to run X (XFree3.3.x or XFree4.03 ) server on it. I have tried two options . 1) with ATI Mach 64 2) with S3 Trio With first option I get some strange vertical lines on X screen at any resolution with VESA driver with XFree 3.3.x and Xfree 4.03 With second option I get maximal 640x480 with vga driver (Xfree 4.03) And system crush to SRM console with accel Mach64 driver and Xfree (4.03) Not recognized card during Xprobe with XFree (3.3.x) BTW. The results are the same for S3 Trio with RedHat linux on the same machine And for Mach64 with XFree 3.3.x Will be happy to hear any Ideas from you To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 17 12:16: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A4DE37B42C; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:15:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3HJFjG14893; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:15:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200104171827.f3HIRuk07406@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:15:08 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: John Baldwin Subject: RE: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha machdep.c swtch.s Cc: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 17-Apr-01 John Baldwin wrote: > jhb 2001/04/17 11:27:56 PDT > > Modified files: > sys/alpha/alpha machdep.c swtch.s > Log: > Save are floating point state in cpu_switch() if needed instead of relying > completely on lazy floating point state saving. This is needed for the > SMP case since processes can migrate to other CPUs. > > Submitted by: dfr With this both Drew and I can boot into multiuser now. There are still some clock issues and other rough edges, and it hasn't been put through any heavy load yet. Watch this space for more fixes, but if very brave people want to start testing things, you can start now. :) -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 17 14:25:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F49837B43C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:25:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA00690 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:25:28 -0700 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:25:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FWIW: SMP on UP PC164 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org SMP kernel with sources works, but there are some very strange program behaviours. Shell dumps core every now and then. Attempts to (re)compile the kernel has the compiler dying with internal errors. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 17 14:34:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F1D37B43C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:34:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA04556; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:34:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f3HLY7K62551; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:34:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15068.46798.936899.549721@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:34:06 -0400 (EDT) To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FWIW: SMP on UP PC164 In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew Jacob writes: > > SMP kernel with sources works, but there are some very strange program > behaviours. Shell dumps core every now and then. Attempts to (re)compile the > kernel has the compiler dying with internal errors. > Try backing out swtch.s version 1.27 Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Apr 17 14:34:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA6D837B43F for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:34:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3HLYZG20324; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:34:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:34:00 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Matthew Jacob Subject: RE: FWIW: SMP on UP PC164 Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 17-Apr-01 Matthew Jacob wrote: > > SMP kernel with sources works, but there are some very strange program > behaviours. Shell dumps core every now and then. Attempts to (re)compile the > kernel has the compiler dying with internal errors. Yes, I am seeing those as well. I think it is very likely due to the accounting being screwd up however. Unfortunately, fixing the clock stuff to work on the alpha means fixing it to really work on SMP right instead of the current hacks we have to get x86 limping along. Hopefully I'll have it working in a day or two. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 18 2:54:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFA8D37B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 02:54:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [195.11.243.26] (helo=Debug) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14pofd-000DwJ-00; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:54:45 +0000 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org From: Wilko Bulte Subject: DS20 & SRM 5.9 & Adaptec Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:54:45 GMT X-Mailer: www.webmail.nl.demon.net X-Sender: postmaster@wkb@freebie.demon.nl X-Originating-IP: 161.114.88.74 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FYI: I just upgraded my DS20 to SRM 5.9 It still does not show the embedded Adaptec SCSI chips. Given a bit of time I'll try an Adaptec2940U[W] to see if the SRM discovers it. Wilko -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 18 8:18:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE7C37B422; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:18:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA20001; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:18:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f3IFI1N67241; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:18:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15069.45097.402664.810469@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:18:01 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Cc: jhb@freebsd.org Subject: WARNING -- -current broken X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org WARNING: the top of the tree is currently broken Random processes die with segv's for no good reason. I'm currently backing out files that changed with yesterday's SMP integration one by one. I've exonerated swtch.s so far.. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 18 8:51:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E0C37B423; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:51:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA21401; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:51:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f3IFpDf67444; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:51:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15069.47089.850916.351792@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:51:13 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: jhb@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: WARNING -- -current broken In-Reply-To: <15069.45097.402664.810469@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> References: <15069.45097.402664.810469@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Gallatin writes: > > WARNING: the top of the tree is currently broken > Random processes die with segv's for no good reason. > > I'm currently backing out files that changed with yesterday's SMP > integration one by one. I've exonerated swtch.s so far.. Ok, exception.s seems to be the problem. I'm working on a fix.. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 18 9:15:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 122E537B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:15:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3IGEeG48610; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:14:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <15069.47089.850916.351792@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:14:01 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Andrew Gallatin Subject: Re: WARNING -- -current broken Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 18-Apr-01 Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Andrew Gallatin writes: > > > > WARNING: the top of the tree is currently broken > > Random processes die with segv's for no good reason. > > > > I'm currently backing out files that changed with yesterday's SMP > > integration one by one. I've exonerated swtch.s so far.. > > Ok, exception.s seems to be the problem. I'm working on a fix.. Probably my fault then. :( > Drew -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 18 9:15:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D11837B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:15:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3IGEeG48606; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:14:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <15069.45097.402664.810469@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:14:01 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Andrew Gallatin Subject: RE: WARNING -- -current broken Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 18-Apr-01 Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > WARNING: the top of the tree is currently broken > Random processes die with segv's for no good reason. > > I'm currently backing out files that changed with yesterday's SMP > integration one by one. I've exonerated swtch.s so far.. Argh, this isn't just on SMP kernels? :( > Drew -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 18 9:43:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from malkavian.org (malkavian.org [206.136.132.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C675537B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:43:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rbw@myplace.org) Received: from localhost (rbw@localhost) by malkavian.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3IGhni08698 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:43:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rbw@myplace.org) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:43:49 -0700 (MST) From: "brian j. peterson" To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: UP1500 motherboard support? Message-ID: X-Prime: (2 ^ 6972593) - 1 X-URL: http://rbw.myplace.org/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://samsungelectronics.com/semiconductors/alpha_cpu/up1500/ *drool* i suppose it all relies on manufacturer-/vendor-cooperation, but is FreeBSD likely to support this motherboard soon after its release? -- --===-----=======-----------=============-----------------=================== | rbw aka bjp | god's final message to his creation: | | rbw@myplace.org | we apologize for the inconvenience. | ===================-----------------=============-----------=======-----===-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 18 9:59: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp [133.9.152.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32C4737B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:59:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fujimori@prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp) Received: from prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3IGweA30880; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:58:40 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from fujimori@prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp) Message-Id: <200104181658.f3IGweA30880@prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> To: "brian j. peterson" Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UP1500 motherboard support? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:43:49 MST." Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:58:40 +0900 From: Yoriaki FUJIMORI Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I hope so, of course. Probably, the url is http://www.samsungelectronics.com/semiconductors/Alpha_CPU/UP1500/up1500.htm Although this board is for Alpha/linux platform, we have to push Samsung that they should lend several boards to FreeBSD core team. I am very curious about their pricing. Yoriaki Fujimori To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 18 10: 5:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp [133.9.152.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A28837B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:05:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fujimori@prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp) Received: from prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3IH5jA31195 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 02:05:45 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from fujimori@prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp) Message-Id: <200104181705.f3IH5jA31195@prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: UP1500 motherboard support? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:58:40 +0900." <200104181658.f3IGweA30880@prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 02:05:45 +0900 From: Yoriaki FUJIMORI Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was reminded of a notice from my alpha-vendor here in Tokio that they tested a new 264-motherboard with linux successfully. It should be up1500. Naturally, sample boards are circulated to alpha system vendors. Yoriaki Fujimori To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 18 10: 6:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from suntana.fh-konstanz.de (suntana.fh-konstanz.de [141.37.9.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF4737B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:06:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vahe@fh-konstanz.de) Received: from vvl10 (vvl10.fh-konstanz.de [141.37.112.110]) by suntana.fh-konstanz.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id TAA11534 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 19:06:50 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <002d01c0c82a$fac833e0$6e70258d@vvl10.fh-konstanz.de> From: "Vahe Khachikyan" To: "Alpha Free BSD" Subject: Compaq CCC Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:14:08 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Good current-time :-)) I have a question which can sound a little bit strange. How are you managing the problems with libtool when compiling with CCC ? During configuration the softare that uses libtool refuses to be configured to build shared libraries. This is due to tests on -fPIC flag. But in fact it's possible to make shared libraries later from static ones. It is just a lot of hand work. The best thing about ccc that it compiles quite fast code. For example I compiled OpenSSL with it. It is faster than GCC one. The worsest thing about ccc. Shared libraries will be handmade. Have anybody any ideas? Regards -- Vahe --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 18 11:52:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F15E37B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:52:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25674; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:52:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f3IIq7Y67747; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:52:07 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15069.57943.613952.843300@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 14:52:07 -0400 (EDT) To: "Vahe Khachikyan" Cc: "Alpha Free BSD" Subject: Re: Compaq CCC In-Reply-To: <002d01c0c82a$fac833e0$6e70258d@vvl10.fh-konstanz.de> References: <002d01c0c82a$fac833e0$6e70258d@vvl10.fh-konstanz.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Vahe Khachikyan writes: > Good current-time :-)) > > I have a question which can sound a little bit strange. > How are you managing the problems with libtool when compiling with CCC ? > > During configuration the softare that uses libtool refuses to be configured > to build shared libraries. This is due to tests on -fPIC flag. > But in fact it's possible to make shared libraries later > from static ones. It is just a lot of hand work. > > The best thing about ccc that it compiles quite fast code. > For example I compiled OpenSSL with it. It is faster than GCC one. > > The worsest thing about ccc. Shared libraries will be handmade. > > Have anybody any ideas? Search the archives. Somebody else ran into this worked around it in the last month or so. The key is that ccc doesn't need -fpic to make shared libs. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 18 11:55:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3672E37B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:55:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14px6c-0000Wk-00; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 18:55:11 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3IIwrD01645; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:58:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:58:53 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Andrew Gallatin , mjacob@feral.com, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Alpha PC164, SRM, and Adaptec 2940UW (fwd) Message-ID: <20010418205853.A1598@freebie.demon.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from wkb@freebie.demon.nl on Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 02:14:32AM +0000 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-RC X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Apr 12, 2001 at 02:14:32AM +0000, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > > > 1. LX and SX with 5.8 firmware (their last) > > > 2. DS10/DS20/ES40/XP1000 with 5.9 firmware (their latest) > > Does that mean that the embedded Adaptec chips on the DS20 now finally > also work with SRM 5.9? > > Time to upgrade the DS20 at work I guess. But I don't have time to > do that before 4.3R. So if someone has a DS20 please try!!?? I tried SRM 5.9 on the DS20 at work. It does not show the on-board Adaptec chips. I could not find a 2940UW, only a 2944UW. That latter one did not show itself in the SRM, other than with its PCI IDs that is. Wilko -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/alpha http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 18 12: 1:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8F7237B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:01:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25859; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:01:03 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f3IJ0X667772; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:00:33 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15069.58449.750201.682418@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:00:33 -0400 (EDT) To: Yoriaki FUJIMORI Cc: "brian j. peterson" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: UP1500 motherboard support? In-Reply-To: <200104181658.f3IGweA30880@prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> References: <200104181658.f3IGweA30880@prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yoriaki FUJIMORI writes: > > I hope so, of course. > > Probably, the url is > http://www.samsungelectronics.com/semiconductors/Alpha_CPU/UP1500/up1500.htm > > Although this board is for Alpha/linux platform, we have to push Samsung > that they should lend several boards to FreeBSD core team. > I am very curious about their pricing. Heh. Have them send me one too. I did the UP1000 platform support, but I'm by no means a core team member. I suspect that it will nearly the same as a UP1000 from a software perspective and it will either "just work", or will be so close to working that I could get it working in less than a day. They certainly look nice. Given that the UP1000 is constrained by its slow memory system, it would be interesting to see how much the DDR helps. Do you know if anybody is selling these? My wife needs a new computer -- she's a statistician and does floating-point intensive calculations. Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 18 12: 6:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A76C937B42C for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:06:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25963 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:06:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f3IJ5qX67785; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:05:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15069.58768.803566.412734@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:05:52 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: current fixed (was Re: WARNING -- -current broken) In-Reply-To: References: <15069.47089.850916.351792@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On 18-Apr-01 Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > Andrew Gallatin writes: > > > > > > WARNING: the top of the tree is currently broken > > > Random processes die with segv's for no good reason. > > > > > > I'm currently backing out files that changed with yesterday's SMP > > > integration one by one. I've exonerated swtch.s so far.. > > > > Ok, exception.s seems to be the problem. I'm working on a fix.. For anybody following this thread & not cvs-all, John just backed out his SMP changes to exception.s. This fixes UP kernels and returns them to stability. The revereted code is required for SMP. So SMP is broken until we get this figured out... Stay tuned for details. Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 18 12:10:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from sn1oexchr01.nextvenue.com (sn1oexchr01.nextvenue.com [63.209.169.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 92A6C37B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:10:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nevans@ibeam.com) Received: FROM sn1exchmbx.nextvenue.com BY sn1oexchr01.nextvenue.com ; Wed Apr 18 15:09:12 2001 -0400 Received: by sn1exchmbx.nextvenue.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id <2NLD54QR>; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:07:59 -0400 Message-ID: <712384017032D411AD7B0001023D799BDB9B6F@sn1exchmbx.nextvenue.com> From: Nick Evans To: 'Andrew Gallatin' Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: UP1500 motherboard support? Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:07:58 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Do you know if anybody is selling these? On that note, does anyone know where I can easily buy OEM Alpha components? I want to build a system from scratch getting the components as I get the money. I've followed tons of links but can't seem to find a place that will just sell me say the motherboard or a CPU. Thanks Nick -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Gallatin [mailto:gallatin@cs.duke.edu] Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 3:01 PM To: Yoriaki FUJIMORI Cc: brian j. peterson; freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: UP1500 motherboard support? Yoriaki FUJIMORI writes: > > I hope so, of course. > > Probably, the url is > http://www.samsungelectronics.com/semiconductors/Alpha_CPU/UP1500/up1500.htm > > Although this board is for Alpha/linux platform, we have to push Samsung > that they should lend several boards to FreeBSD core team. > I am very curious about their pricing. Heh. Have them send me one too. I did the UP1000 platform support, but I'm by no means a core team member. I suspect that it will nearly the same as a UP1000 from a software perspective and it will either "just work", or will be so close to working that I could get it working in less than a day. They certainly look nice. Given that the UP1000 is constrained by its slow memory system, it would be interesting to see how much the DDR helps. Do you know if anybody is selling these? My wife needs a new computer -- she's a statistician and does floating-point intensive calculations. Drew ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 18 12:18:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from malkavian.org (malkavian.org [206.136.132.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686DF37B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:18:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rbw@myplace.org) Received: from localhost (rbw@localhost) by malkavian.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3IJIBa13292; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:18:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rbw@myplace.org) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:18:11 -0700 (MST) From: "brian j. peterson" To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: UP1500 motherboard support? In-Reply-To: <15069.58449.750201.682418@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: X-Prime: (2 ^ 6972593) - 1 X-URL: http://rbw.myplace.org/ MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Do you know if anybody is selling these? My wife needs a new computer > -- she's a statistician and does floating-point intensive > calculations. http://www.samsungelectronics.com/semiconductors/alpha_cpu/product_guide/ still lists this board as "Under Development" at this point. -brian -- --===-----=======-----------=============-----------------=================== | rbw aka bjp | god's final message to his creation: | | rbw@myplace.org | we apologize for the inconvenience. | ===================-----------------=============-----------=======-----===-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 18 12:32:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 664) id C9F4937B422; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:32:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:32:10 -0700 From: David O'Brien To: stable@freebsd.org, alpha@hub.freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: 3 more days until 4.3-RELEASE Message-ID: <20010418123210.A19210@hub.freebsd.org> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20010417114859B.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010417114859B.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@osd.bsdi.com on Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 11:48:59AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The 4.3-RC4 Alpha release is now on ftp.freebsd.org (both ISO and ftp installable directory) in the usual URL of: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/alpha/ With alpha bits to follow in the ../alpha/ directory some time tomorrow. The Alpha RC4 uses the same packages as RC1. A later set of packages was not accessible at the time of building the release. Thus there may be some KDE2 package issues that you thought were fixed. So please don't be alarmed by that. The only "known holes" in this RC4 image have to do with the globbing and random sequence number stuff that Kris still has in his queue - those are purely security related and there shouldn't be any functional impact for the actual usability testing of these bits, so please test 'em! Thanks! -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 18 17:46:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from suntana.fh-konstanz.de (suntana.fh-konstanz.de [141.37.9.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A66937B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 17:46:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vahe@fh-konstanz.de) Received: from vvl10 (vvl10.fh-konstanz.de [141.37.112.110]) by suntana.fh-konstanz.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id CAA12151; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 02:42:56 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <00a001c0c86a$b242e170$6e70258d@vvl10.fh-konstanz.de> From: "Vahe Khachikyan" To: "Peter Petrakis" Cc: Subject: Re: Compaq CCC Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 01:50:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi ! Below is what I found in axp-list It doesn't do what expected. First step is ok after that typing gcc says: "ccc: Error .... ". Second step Ok. Third step configure says: "checking whether to build shared libraries... yes". But make results in gcc invocations ?! There is workaround for that to setenv CC ccc and then run configure but then configure says : "checking whether to build shared libraries... no". I didn't tried to patch the libtool yet. Your way was a good quicky sorry that it doesn't work ;-) Have you tried it ? Could it happen that I'm doing something wrong? > Say you want to build something using ccc. First alias gcc to ccc > > alias gcc=ccc > > Now configure depends on libtool (which defaults are usually NOT > changed). What happens is autoconf doesnt recognize ccc and > returns "can't build shared libraries". The quick and easy workaround? > > In the top level of the package you're trying to build do. > > ./ltconfig --with-gcc ltmain.sh > > You could use your own libtool instead (recommended) which is probably > more up to date than whats provide with some packages. > > /usr/share/libtool/ltconfig --with-gcc /usr/share/libtool/ltmain.sh > > now when you run ./configure it will load what libtool has configured > and accept it. Once you do this ccc and cxx work. -----Original Message----- From: Peter Petrakis To: Vahe Khachikyan Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Date: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 9:28 PM Subject: Re: Compaq CCC >Vahe Khachikyan wrote: >> >> Good current-time :-)) >> >> I have a question which can sound a little bit strange. >> How are you managing the problems with libtool when compiling with CCC ? > >On Linux we modified libtool about a month or two ago and told it that >ccc >could make shared libs. Easy enough. You could also get around it by >aliasing >gcc=ccc and in the toplevel of your source tree that provides libtool >run. > ># ./ltconfig --with-gcc > >So now it will build shared libs. It assumes you're using gcc now :-) > >The patch for libtool is small and can be found in the axp-list archives >from >a month or two ago. Look for the libtool thread with mine and Alan >Young's name. > >Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Apr 18 22:44:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mailhub.ihlas.net.tr (mailhub.ihlas.net.tr [213.238.128.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6360237B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 22:44:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from yavuz@ihlas.net.tr) Received: (qmail 40430 invoked from network); 19 Apr 2001 05:50:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO maslak) (10.11.1.232) by smtp.ihlas.net.tr with SMTP; 19 Apr 2001 05:50:23 -0000 Message-ID: <000801c0c893$b8030fd0$e8010b0a@maslak> From: =?iso-8859-9?Q?Yavuz_Ma=FElak?= To: Subject: Does FreeBSD work as 64 bits or 32 bits on Alpha platforms ? Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:43:53 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0C8AC.DD1F73D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 Disposition-Notification-To: =?iso-8859-9?Q?Yavuz_Ma=FElak?= X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0C8AC.DD1F73D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-9" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0C8AC.DD1F73D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-9" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0C8AC.DD1F73D0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 19 0:15: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21B5837B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:15:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA07734; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:14:51 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 00:14:51 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: =?iso-8859-9?Q?Yavuz_Ma=FElak?= Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Does FreeBSD work as 64 bits or 32 bits on Alpha platforms ? In-Reply-To: <000801c0c893$b8030fd0$e8010b0a@maslak> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org 64. On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, [iso-8859-9] Yavuz Ma=FElak wrote: >=20 >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 19 3:57:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mpehp1.mpe-garching.mpg.de (mpehp1.mpe-garching.mpg.de [130.183.70.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 024EA37B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 03:57:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sutter@robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de) Received: from robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de (robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de [130.183.136.59]) by mpehp1.mpe-garching.mpg.de (8.8.6 (PHNE_17135)/8.8.6) with ESMTP id MAA05700 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:57:49 +0200 (METDST) Received: from robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de (localhost.mpe-garching.mpg.de [127.0.0.1]) by robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3JAw4c03359 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:58:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sutter@robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de) Message-Id: <200104191058.f3JAw4c03359@robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de> Reply-To: robert@mpe.mpg.de To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problem with OSF1_BASE and make world. Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:58:04 +0200 From: Robert Suetterlin Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, when I do cvsup (STABLE and PORTS current), buildworld, installworld, mergemaster, new kernel, reboot, my ports that depend on osf1_base seem broken. At any point before the reboot they are fine. For example netscape46 gave the following error: ƒíÞ9P0  : not found P0  : not found 0  : not found /usr/local/lib/netscape/navigator-4.76.bin: 4: Syntax error: ")" unexpected I can 'fix' this problem be deinstalling, rebuilding and reinstalling osf1_base. Is this a feature or a bug? Greetings, Robert S. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 19 5:59:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8AF637B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 05:59:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA11920; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:59:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f3JCx8478209; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:59:08 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15070.57628.159041.327476@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:59:08 -0400 (EDT) To: robert@mpe.mpg.de Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem with OSF1_BASE and make world. In-Reply-To: <200104191058.f3JAw4c03359@robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de> References: <200104191058.f3JAw4c03359@robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Robert Suetterlin writes: > Hello, > > when I do cvsup (STABLE and PORTS current), buildworld, installworld, mergemaster, new kernel, reboot, my ports that depend on osf1_base seem broken. > > At any point before the reboot they are fine. > Building and installing the osf1_base port will load the osf1.ko kernel module for you. You need to make sure its loaded at boot by putting osf1_enable="YES" into /etc/rc.conf. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 19 7:30:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22CFC37B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:30:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daemon@mips.inka.de) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 14qFSG-0008MH-03; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:30:44 +0200 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f3JE5pc37777 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:05:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: Compaq CCC Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:05:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <9bmrbv$1465$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> References: <002d01c0c82a$fac833e0$6e70258d@vvl10.fh-konstanz.de> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Vahe Khachikyan wrote: > I have a question which can sound a little bit strange. > How are you managing the problems with libtool when compiling with CCC ? I use a patched libtool port. Reviews of this patch appreciated. diff -uNr /usr/ports/devel/libtool/Makefile libtool/Makefile --- /usr/ports/devel/libtool/Makefile Mon Feb 5 14:48:20 2001 +++ libtool/Makefile Wed Mar 21 00:09:59 2001 @@ -7,7 +7,7 @@ PORTNAME= libtool PORTVERSION= 1.3.4 -PORTREVISION= 2 +PORTREVISION= 3 CATEGORIES= devel MASTER_SITES= ${MASTER_SITE_GNU} MASTER_SITE_SUBDIR= libtool diff -uNr /usr/ports/devel/libtool/files/patch-ac libtool/files/patch-ac --- /usr/ports/devel/libtool/files/patch-ac Mon Sep 25 09:38:14 2000 +++ libtool/files/patch-ac Wed Mar 21 00:07:02 2001 @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ ---- ltconfig.orig Tue Dec 7 23:50:48 1999 -+++ ltconfig Wed Sep 20 11:11:39 2000 +--- ltconfig.orig Tue Dec 7 22:50:48 1999 ++++ ltconfig Wed Mar 21 00:06:38 2001 @@ -169,7 +169,7 @@ # Constants: PROGRAM=ltconfig @@ -55,7 +55,51 @@ --enable-dlopen) enable_dlopen=yes ;; --enable-win32-dll) enable_win32_dll=yes ;; -@@ -971,11 +985,11 @@ +@@ -591,6 +605,25 @@ + fi + $rm conftest.c + echo "$ac_t$with_gcc" 1>&6 ++ ++ # Check if the compiler is Compaq C ++ if test "$with_gcc" != yes; then ++ with_ccc=no ++ echo $ac_n "checking whether we are using Compaq C... $ac_c" 1>&6 ++ echo "$progname:581: checking whether we are using Compaq C" >&5 ++ ++ $rm conftest.c ++ cat > conftest.c <&5; (eval $ac_try) 2>&5; }; } | egrep yes >/dev/null 2>&1; then ++ with_ccc=yes ++ fi ++ $rm conftest.c ++ echo "$ac_t$with_ccc" 1>&6 ++ fi + fi + + # Allow CC to be a program name with arguments. +@@ -693,6 +726,17 @@ + pic_flag='-fPIC' + ;; + esac ++elif test "$with_ccc" = yes; then ++ case "$host_os" in ++ osf[345]* | linux-gnu* | freebsd*) ++ # All Compaq C alpha code is PIC. ++ wl='-Wl,' ++ link_static_flag='-non_shared' ++ ;; ++ *) ++ can_build_shared=no ++ ;; ++ esac + else + # PORTME Check for PIC flags for the system compiler. + case "$host_os" in +@@ -971,11 +1015,11 @@ $rm conftest.dat if ln -s X conftest.dat 2>/dev/null; then $rm conftest.dat @@ -69,7 +113,7 @@ echo "$ac_t"yes 1>&6 else echo "$ac_t"no 1>&6 -@@ -1226,8 +1240,8 @@ +@@ -1226,8 +1270,8 @@ *) if $LD --help 2>&1 | egrep ': supported targets:.* elf' > /dev/null; then @@ -80,7 +124,7 @@ else ld_shlibs=no fi -@@ -1353,14 +1367,6 @@ +@@ -1353,14 +1397,6 @@ hardcode_shlibpath_var=no ;; @@ -95,7 +139,7 @@ hpux9* | hpux10* | hpux11*) case "$host_os" in hpux9*) archive_cmds='$rm $objdir/$soname~$LD -b +b $install_libdir -o $objdir/$soname $libobjs $deplibs $linkopts~test $objdir/$soname = $lib || mv $objdir/$soname $lib' ;; -@@ -1775,7 +1781,7 @@ +@@ -1775,7 +1811,7 @@ version_type=none dynamic_linker="$host_os ld.so" sys_lib_dlsearch_path_spec="/lib /usr/lib" @@ -104,7 +148,7 @@ file_magic_cmd= file_magic_test_file= deplibs_check_method='unknown' -@@ -1874,18 +1880,21 @@ +@@ -1874,18 +1910,21 @@ case "$version_type" in freebsd-elf*) deplibs_check_method='file_magic ELF [0-9][0-9]*-bit [LM]SB shared object' @@ -134,7 +178,7 @@ shlibpath_var=LD_LIBRARY_PATH case "$host_os" in freebsd2* | freebsd3.[01]* | freebsdelf3.[01]*) -@@ -2776,6 +2785,15 @@ +@@ -2776,6 +2815,15 @@ # Shell to use when invoking shell scripts. SHELL=$LTSHELL -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 19 7:30:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33A2037B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 07:30:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daemon@mips.inka.de) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 14qFSG-0008MH-04; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:30:44 +0200 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f3JEAPF37847 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:10:25 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: Problem with OSF1_BASE and make world. Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:10:24 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <9bmrkg$1465$2@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> References: <200104191058.f3JAw4c03359@robert2.mpe-garching.mpg.de> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Robert Suetterlin wrote: > ƒíÞ9P0  : not found > P0  : not found > 0  : not found > /usr/local/lib/netscape/navigator-4.76.bin: 4: Syntax error: ")" unexpected > > I can 'fix' this problem be deinstalling, rebuilding and reinstalling > osf1_base. Does that mean you have osf1 loaded as a module? The problem above happens when the module isn't loaded. exec() doesn't recognize the executable and passes it on to sh, which chokes of course. I ran into this when a change to sh broke handling of negations in pipelines, so loading of the module from rc.alpha would fail. This sh bug has been fixed since. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 19 8:29:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from suntana.fh-konstanz.de (suntana.fh-konstanz.de [141.37.9.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B66C37B422 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:29:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vahe@fh-konstanz.de) Received: from vvl10 (vvl10.fh-konstanz.de [141.37.112.110]) by suntana.fh-konstanz.de (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA28545; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 17:29:03 +0200 (MET DST) Message-ID: <006b01c0c8e6$701b3b40$6e70258d@vvl10.fh-konstanz.de> From: "Vahe Khachikyan" To: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?Yavuz_Ma=FElak?=" Cc: Subject: Re: Does FreeBSD work as 64 bits or 32 bits on Alpha platforms ? Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 16:36:01 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Compile and execute the code below -------------------------- #include void main(){ int * intptr; printf("We are working on: %d bit platform\n", sizeof(intptr)*8); exit 0; } ----------------------------------------- -- Vahe --- -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Jacob To: Yavuz Maþlak Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Thursday, April 19, 2001 11:22 AM Subject: Re: Does FreeBSD work as 64 bits or 32 bits on Alpha platforms ? 64. On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, [iso-8859-9] Yavuz Maþlak wrote: > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 19 8:58:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A12F37B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:58:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3JFwUG87412 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:58:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 08:57:50 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: FW: cvs commit: src/sys/kern subr_witness.c Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: John Baldwin To: cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Subject: cvs commit: src/sys/kern subr_witness.c jhb 2001/04/19 08:49:55 PDT Modified files: sys/kern subr_witness.c Log: - Whoops, forgot to enable the clock lock in the spin order list on the alpha. - Change the Debugger() functions to pass in the real function name. Sorry for breaking the kernel overnight. :-P -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 19 10:27:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from cs.Technion.AC.IL (csa.cs.technion.ac.il [132.68.32.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57D6A37B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:27:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nadav@cs.technion.ac.il) Received: from csd.cs.technion.ac.il (csd.cs.technion.ac.il [132.68.32.8]) by cs.Technion.AC.IL (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.0) with ESMTP id UAA18443 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:28:21 +0300 (IDT) Received: from localhost (nadav@localhost) by csd.cs.technion.ac.il (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.0) with SMTP id UAA15756 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:28:22 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: csd.cs.technion.ac.il: nadav owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 20:28:22 +0300 (IDT) From: Nadav Eiron X-Sender: nadav@csd To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Recommended SCSI controllers on Alpha? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All, This is a bit OT, but I need a piece of advice, and couldn't find a definitive answer elsewhere. What would be the recommended LVD SCSI adapter to use on a DS10L? The machine will run FreeBSD, but, ideally, I'd like it to be compatible with Tru64 (and OpenVMS?) as well, and of course to be bootable. On i386 I use Adaptecs, but those are not bootable/supported by Tru64, correct? Thanks in advance for any and all tips, Nadav To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 19 10:44:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9409F37B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:44:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA10245; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:44:37 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:44:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Nadav Eiron Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI controllers on Alpha? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Almost any supported controller will be fine. I'm not sure which would be bootable though (SRM is such a crapshoot about this). So, you have QLogic {1X80,12160}, LSI-Logic 895, 896 && 1010, Adaptec 29160. Of the three, I doubt that the 29160 has been exercised much under FreeeBSD-alpha. The LSI-Logic cards are fine, and supported pretty well and are cheap. I of course like the QLogic cards, but the LSI-Logic cards are a better buy (i.e., more easily available, not only from LSI-Logic or Tekram, but even small shops like Antares who make a fine set of cards). On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Nadav Eiron wrote: > Hi All, > > This is a bit OT, but I need a piece of advice, and couldn't find a > definitive answer elsewhere. What would be the recommended LVD SCSI > adapter to use on a DS10L? The machine will run FreeBSD, but, ideally, I'd > like it to be compatible with Tru64 (and OpenVMS?) as well, and of course > to be bootable. On i386 I use Adaptecs, but those are not > bootable/supported by Tru64, correct? > > Thanks in advance for any and all tips, > Nadav > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 19 10:54:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51AE837B440 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 10:54:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18635; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:53:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f3JHrJT78703; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:53:19 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15071.9743.624120.217133@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:53:19 -0400 (EDT) To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: Nadav Eiron , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI controllers on Alpha? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew Jacob writes: <..> I think you missed the gist of his question -- he wants a controller that will work with Tru64: > > adapter to use on a DS10L? The machine will run FreeBSD, but, ideally, I'd > > like it to be compatible with Tru64 (and OpenVMS?) as well, and of course <...> I think you should either get a genuine DEC alphabet soup kz controller, or a 3rd party controller that advertises itself to work with Tru64. Intraserver used to sell sym based cards which work with Tru64 and VMS. Nearly any lvd card supported by Tru64 should work with FreeBSD. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 19 11: 6:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from cs.Technion.AC.IL (csa.cs.technion.ac.il [132.68.32.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D678637B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:06:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nadav@cs.technion.ac.il) Received: from csd.cs.technion.ac.il (csd.cs.technion.ac.il [132.68.32.8]) by cs.Technion.AC.IL (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.0) with ESMTP id VAA21860; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:07:36 +0300 (IDT) Received: from localhost (nadav@localhost) by csd.cs.technion.ac.il (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.0) with SMTP id VAA27384; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:07:35 +0300 (IDT) X-Authentication-Warning: csd.cs.technion.ac.il: nadav owned process doing -bs Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:07:34 +0300 (IDT) From: Nadav Eiron X-Sender: nadav@csd To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: mjacob@feral.com, alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI controllers on Alpha? In-Reply-To: <15071.9743.624120.217133@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Grr... I was afraid of this answer... Compaq charges an arm, a leg, and then some more for their controllers. Sigh. Thanks anyway, Nadav On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Matthew Jacob writes: > > <..> > I think you missed the gist of his question -- he wants a controller > that will work with Tru64: > > > > adapter to use on a DS10L? The machine will run FreeBSD, but, ideally, I'd > > > like it to be compatible with Tru64 (and OpenVMS?) as well, and of course > > <...> > > I think you should either get a genuine DEC alphabet soup > kz controller, or a 3rd party controller that advertises > itself to work with Tru64. Intraserver used to sell sym based cards > which work with Tru64 and VMS. Nearly any lvd card supported by Tru64 > should work with FreeBSD. > > Drew > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 19 11:10:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relayx2.inprise.com (relayx2.inprise.com [143.186.11.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7941B37B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:10:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rmckinley@borland.com) Received: from messaging.inprise.com (messaging.inprise.com [10.186.2.160]) by relayx2.inprise.com (8.9.3+Sun/Pro-8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA00895 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:10:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from HANNIBAL ([143.186.148.38]) by messaging.inprise.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.61) with ESMTP id AAA6B12; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:09:35 -0700 Reply-To: From: "Rob McKinley" To: , "Nadav Eiron" Cc: Subject: RE: Recommended SCSI controllers on Alpha? Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 13:10:41 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I can attest to the fact that the Tekram 895 based cards don't work with Tru64 5.0 in my AS200. SRM sees it fine, along with all the peripherals. Booting Tru64, however generates a message that Rev. 1 of the 895 is not supported. I tried with both a Tekram DC390-u2b, and a DC390-u2. I haven't searched to see if there are any patches that might make them work. Both cards work well with FreeBSD on the same box. YMMV. Rob > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Matthew Jacob > Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2001 12:45 PM > To: Nadav Eiron > Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI controllers on Alpha? > > > > Almost any supported controller will be fine. I'm not sure which would be > bootable though (SRM is such a crapshoot about this). > > > So, you have QLogic {1X80,12160}, LSI-Logic 895, 896 && 1010, > Adaptec 29160. > > Of the three, I doubt that the 29160 has been exercised much under > FreeeBSD-alpha. The LSI-Logic cards are fine, and supported > pretty well and > are cheap. I of course like the QLogic cards, but the LSI-Logic > cards are a > better buy (i.e., more easily available, not only from LSI-Logic > or Tekram, > but even small shops like Antares who make a fine set of cards). > > On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Nadav Eiron wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > This is a bit OT, but I need a piece of advice, and couldn't find a > > definitive answer elsewhere. What would be the recommended LVD SCSI > > adapter to use on a DS10L? The machine will run FreeBSD, but, > ideally, I'd > > like it to be compatible with Tru64 (and OpenVMS?) as well, and > of course > > to be bootable. On i386 I use Adaptecs, but those are not > > bootable/supported by Tru64, correct? > > > > Thanks in advance for any and all tips, > > Nadav > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 19 11:17:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69F3D37B423 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:17:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA10479; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:17:15 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 11:17:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Nadav Eiron , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI controllers on Alpha? In-Reply-To: <15071.9743.624120.217133@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Matthew Jacob writes: > > <..> > I think you missed the gist of his question -- he wants a controller > that will work with Tru64: Oops. > > > > adapter to use on a DS10L? The machine will run FreeBSD, but, ideally, I'd > > > like it to be compatible with Tru64 (and OpenVMS?) as well, and of course > > <...> > > I think you should either get a genuine DEC alphabet soup > kz controller, or a 3rd party controller that advertises > itself to work with Tru64. Intraserver used to sell sym based cards > which work with Tru64 and VMS. Nearly any lvd card supported by Tru64 > should work with FreeBSD. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 19 12: 0:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from oden.homeip.net (h08002b86961e.ne.mediaone.net [66.30.55.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A03F37B424 for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 12:00:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daniel@oden.homeip.net) Received: from localhost (daniel@localhost) by oden.homeip.net (8.11.0/8.11.0/SuSE Linux 8.11.0-0.4) with ESMTP id f3JIxoG29011; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:59:50 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:59:49 -0400 (EDT) From: Daniel Nilsson To: Nadav Eiron Cc: Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI controllers on Alpha? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org All, You should able to buy the LSI logic board SYM8952U which is the same as KZPCA-AA, supported by Tru64 4.0F and up as well as OVMS v7.1-2. Single channel 80MB/s LVD. For 160MB/s I don't think there is a board qualified yet but it's going to be the Adaptec chip that is used for that. A variant of 29160. Let me know, there might be more options if that doesn't work. Daniel On Thu, 19 Apr 2001, Nadav Eiron wrote: > Hi All, > > This is a bit OT, but I need a piece of advice, and couldn't find a > definitive answer elsewhere. What would be the recommended LVD SCSI > adapter to use on a DS10L? The machine will run FreeBSD, but, ideally, I'd > like it to be compatible with Tru64 (and OpenVMS?) as well, and of course > to be bootable. On i386 I use Adaptecs, but those are not > bootable/supported by Tru64, correct? > > Thanks in advance for any and all tips, > Nadav > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 19 14:16: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B7C37B42C for ; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 14:16:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14qLmT-000NJD-00; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 21:16:01 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3JLJkD01643; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:19:46 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:19:46 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Nadav Eiron Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Recommended SCSI controllers on Alpha? Message-ID: <20010419231946.B1283@freebie.demon.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from nadav@cs.Technion.AC.IL on Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 08:28:22PM +0300 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-RC X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Apr 19, 2001 at 08:28:22PM +0300, Nadav Eiron wrote: > Hi All, > > This is a bit OT, but I need a piece of advice, and couldn't find a > definitive answer elsewhere. What would be the recommended LVD SCSI > adapter to use on a DS10L? The machine will run FreeBSD, but, ideally, I'd > like it to be compatible with Tru64 (and OpenVMS?) as well, and of course > to be bootable. On i386 I use Adaptecs, but those are not > bootable/supported by Tru64, correct? Correct. Get a KZPBA which is DEC/CPQs name for a Qlogic 1040 -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/alpha http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Apr 19 22:51:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0865337B422; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:51:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f3K5pLV79207; Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:51:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 22:51:21 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: alpha@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: AXP 4.3-FreeBSD RC5 ISO Message-ID: <20010419225121.A79181@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I make a 4.3 RC5 release and have put it at ftp://relay.nuxi.com/pub/FreeBSD/axp43rc5.iso (as the route to ftp.freebsd.org is FUBAR again). This ISO is w/o packages, X, or docs. I kept it small to make download time short to help testing. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 20 5:36:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from tango.entreri.com (tango.entreri.com [205.219.158.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEA7B37B43C for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 05:36:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dp@penix.org) Received: from penix.org (Toronto-ppp221365.sympatico.ca [64.228.106.182]) by tango.entreri.com (8.10.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f3KCal121535 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 07:36:47 -0500 Message-ID: <3AE0303E.7BF64AB4@penix.org> Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 08:49:02 -0400 From: Paul Halliday X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AXP 4.3-FreeBSD RC5 ISO References: <20010419225121.A79181@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien wrote: > I make a 4.3 RC5 release and have put it at > ftp://relay.nuxi.com/pub/FreeBSD/axp43rc5.iso (as the route to > ftp.freebsd.org is FUBAR again). This would explain why I cannot checkout the 4.3 RC4's on my as200 and PC164. I tried about 4 times yesterday on both machines. Throughput dropped to about 0.4kbps and remained there. Funny though, sysinstall seems to freeze under this condition I thought the system had locked up but I still had access to EHS but I couldn't kill the process. Anyway, sorry for my lack of cooperation. ;P > This ISO is w/o packages, X, or docs. I kept it small to make download > time short to help testing. > > -- > -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) -- Paul Halliday ============================================================================ Don't underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups. Web: http://dp.penix.org Current Project: http://www3.sympatico.ca/transmogrify/cl.html Public Key available here: http://dp.penix.org/dp.txt ============================================================================ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Apr 20 19: 9: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B14AC37B422 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:09:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3L28vG43616 for ; Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:08:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 20 Apr 2001 19:08:22 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: SMP is stable now. Whee! :) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey all. Drew, Doug, and I have finally gotten this thing mostly whipped. I haven't done a buildworld yet, but I've built kernels and then booted them without any problems. There are still some issues with some of the accounting on SMP systems, but UP systems should run fine with the current set of outstanding patches. I'd appreciate it if people could test the current set of patches. You can find them at: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/patches/alpha.smp.patch So far this has been tested on a dual 4100 with both SMP and UP kernels. Drew has found a problem with critical_enter/exit, but other than that I expect it to run fine on SMP 2100's as well. Also, SMP is noticably faster than UP on the 4100 I have here to test on at least, which is a good thing. :) Thanks for testing. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 21 12:44:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DC9237B424 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 12:44:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3LJiSR95035 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:44:28 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 609E418CE7; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:44:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9FB15919 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:44:27 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:44:26 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: 4.3-RELEASE Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org the alpha port will follow closely the 4.3 i386 release date or will be released later ?? thanks Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 21 13: 6: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F174437B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:05:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3LK5YM60679; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:05:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.3-RELEASE In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010421130534P.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:05:34 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 16 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Subject: 4.3-RELEASE Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:44:26 +0200 (CEST) > > the alpha port will follow closely the 4.3 i386 release date or will be > released later ?? It's uploading to (the site currently doing duty for) ftp.freebsd.org right now. Sorry, but I haven't got an alpha release machine at a fast colocation point so these bits have to go over my DSL line. :) Shouldn't be more than a couple of hours, though I still haven't got a definitive alpha package set so that link will have to point nowhere for another day or so. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 21 13:35:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBE7437B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:35:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from steve@havk.org) Received: from bsd.havk.org (user-24-214-92-252.knology.net [24.214.92.252]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f3LKZ8506721; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:35:09 -0500 (CDT) Received: by bsd.havk.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7CDA41A7D8; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:35:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:35:07 -0500 From: Steve Price To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.3-RELEASE Message-ID: <20010421153507.K41536@bsd.havk.org> References: <20010421130534P.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010421130534P.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@osd.bsdi.com on Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 01:05:34PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.3-RC i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 01:05:34PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > It's uploading to (the site currently doing duty for) ftp.freebsd.org > right now. Sorry, but I haven't got an alpha release machine at a > fast colocation point so these bits have to go over my DSL line. :) > Shouldn't be more than a couple of hours, though I still haven't got a > definitive alpha package set so that link will have to point nowhere > for another day or so. The package set is nearly done. It is up to 3358 packages right now. I lost quite a bit of time because beta.freebsd.org went south for a couple of days. I'll give you a shout just as soon as they are done and have been split. I'm hoping with any luck that will be later tonight. -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 21 13:41:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4886037B422 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:41:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f3LKeaM60826; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:40:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: steve@havk.org Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.3-RELEASE In-Reply-To: <20010421153507.K41536@bsd.havk.org> References: <20010421130534P.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010421153507.K41536@bsd.havk.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010421134035T.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 13:40:35 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 3 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Great, thanks! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 21 14:50:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868FC37B43C; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:50:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA02467; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:50:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f3LLo2611079; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:50:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15074.138.446582.781725@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:50:02 -0400 (EDT) To: John Baldwin Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP is stable now. Whee! :) In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Baldwin writes: > Hey all. > > Drew, Doug, and I have finally gotten this thing mostly whipped. I haven't > done a buildworld yet, but I've built kernels and then booted them without any > problems. There are still some issues with some of the accounting on SMP > systems, but UP systems should run fine with the current set of outstanding > patches. I'd appreciate it if people could test the current set of patches. > You can find them at: > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/patches/alpha.smp.patch > > So far this has been tested on a dual 4100 with both SMP and UP kernels. > Drew has found a problem with critical_enter/exit, but other than that I expect > it to run fine on SMP 2100's as well. Also, SMP is noticably faster than UP on > the 4100 I have here to test on at least, which is a good thing. :) > I'm happy to report that with this patchset, plus the cricical_enter/exit changes I just committed, a dual cpu 2100 made it through a buildworld last night just fine ;) Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 21 15: 1:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55A0537B423 for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:01:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from foo.osd.bsdi.com (root@foo.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.137]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f3LM1mK66855; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:01:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by foo.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3LLxks67587; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:59:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <15074.138.446582.781725@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 14:59:46 -0700 (PDT) Organization: BSD, Inc. From: John Baldwin To: Andrew Gallatin Subject: Re: SMP is stable now. Whee! :) Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 21-Apr-01 Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > John Baldwin writes: > > Hey all. > > > > Drew, Doug, and I have finally gotten this thing mostly whipped. I > haven't > > done a buildworld yet, but I've built kernels and then booted them without > any > > problems. There are still some issues with some of the accounting on SMP > > systems, but UP systems should run fine with the current set of > outstanding > > patches. I'd appreciate it if people could test the current set of > patches. > > You can find them at: > > > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/patches/alpha.smp.patch > > > > So far this has been tested on a dual 4100 with both SMP and UP kernels. > > Drew has found a problem with critical_enter/exit, but other than that I > expect > > it to run fine on SMP 2100's as well. Also, SMP is noticably faster than > UP on > > the 4100 I have here to test on at least, which is a good thing. :) > > > > I'm happy to report that with this patchset, plus the > cricical_enter/exit changes I just committed, a dual cpu 2100 made it > through a buildworld last night just fine ;) Woo! The dual 4100 here is still cranking through a -j 8 world. > Drew -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.Baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 21 15:22:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC69337B423; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:22:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo [192.67.166.71]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA20342; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:22:12 -0700 Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:22:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: John Baldwin , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP is stable now. Whee! :) In-Reply-To: <15074.138.446582.781725@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've run this code on both a UP and an SMP with the SMP option not enabled. I think it'd be a good idea to commit the patches so we can all start finishing the missing pieces. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 21 15:25:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EA6737B422; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 15:25:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA02890; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:25:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f3LMOil11120; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:24:44 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15074.2220.727775.544765@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 18:24:44 -0400 (EDT) To: John Baldwin Cc: Andrew Gallatin , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP is stable now. Whee! :) In-Reply-To: References: <15074.138.446582.781725@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Baldwin writes: > > > > I'm happy to report that with this patchset, plus the > > cricical_enter/exit changes I just committed, a dual cpu 2100 made it > > through a buildworld last night just fine ;) > > Woo! The dual 4100 here is still cranking through a -j 8 world. What's the appropriate -j level for an MP box, anyway? I just naively used -j 2. Should I go higher? I realize going higher will be a better stress test, where does the overhead from cache pollution & extra scheduling outwheigh the possability of having another job whose I/O has completed & is ready to run? At least on a modern UP, like my tbird, omitting the -j seems to speed things up slightly.. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 21 19:13: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A75137B422; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 19:12:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 7ECED6ACBD; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 11:42:55 +0930 (CST) Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 11:42:55 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: John Baldwin , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP is stable now. Whee! :) Message-ID: <20010422114255.F51968@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <15074.138.446582.781725@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <15074.2220.727775.544765@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15074.2220.727775.544765@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Sat, Apr 21, 2001 at 06:24:44PM -0400 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday, 21 April 2001 at 18:24:44 -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > John Baldwin writes: >>> >>> I'm happy to report that with this patchset, plus the >>> cricical_enter/exit changes I just committed, a dual cpu 2100 made it >>> through a buildworld last night just fine ;) >> >> Woo! The dual 4100 here is still cranking through a -j 8 world. > > What's the appropriate -j level for an MP box, anyway? > > I just naively used -j 2. Should I go higher? I've always used 2 * numcpus. If I go higher, it seems to take longer. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Apr 21 20:28: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from peter3.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [65.0.135.147]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9005637B423; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:28:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f3M3S3M47886; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:28:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1085D380A; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:28:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: John Baldwin , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: SMP is stable now. Whee! :) In-Reply-To: <15074.138.446582.781725@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 20:28:03 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20010422032803.1085D380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > John Baldwin writes: > > Hey all. > > > > Drew, Doug, and I have finally gotten this thing mostly whipped. I haven' t > > done a buildworld yet, but I've built kernels and then booted them without any > > problems. There are still some issues with some of the accounting on SMP > > systems, but UP systems should run fine with the current set of outstandin g > > patches. I'd appreciate it if people could test the current set of patche s. > > You can find them at: > > > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/patches/alpha.smp.patch > > > > So far this has been tested on a dual 4100 with both SMP and UP kernels. > > Drew has found a problem with critical_enter/exit, but other than that I e xpect > > it to run fine on SMP 2100's as well. Also, SMP is noticably faster than UP on > > the 4100 I have here to test on at least, which is a good thing. :) > > > > I'm happy to report that with this patchset, plus the > cricical_enter/exit changes I just committed, a dual cpu 2100 made it > through a buildworld last night just fine ;) > > Drew I just fired it up on a UP2000+ w/ dual 833MHz cpus (4MB DDR L2 cache each) and it was rather uneventful. That is.. it was until I typed 'make -j4 world': lock order reversal 1st clk last acquired @ ../../alpha/alpha/clock.c:569 2nd 0xfffffc00006ce728 smp rendezvous @ ../../alpha/alpha/mp_machdep.c:605 3rd 0xfffffc00006d9870 clk @ ../../alpha/alpha/clock.c:390 [hang] This is with alpha.smp.patch, plus the stuff recent commits. I had to change some #idef's into #ifdefs in alpha/trap.c though. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message