From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 6 6:49: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5359937B424; Sun, 6 May 2001 06:49:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14wOuF-000MeL-00; Sun, 06 May 2001 13:49:03 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f46Dra743049; Sun, 6 May 2001 15:53:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 6 May 2001 15:53:36 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list Cc: bmah@freebsd.org, dd@freebsd.org Subject: request for comments / proc-alpha.sgml in -current Message-ID: <20010506155336.A43034@freebie.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I just finished converting HARDWARE.TXT into SGML. Per bmah's work to move to a more consistent doc structure. I appreciate comments that you might have, on bugs/typos/whatever, but also on the actual sgml. I'm not an experienced sgml user by any measure so I guess there is room for improvement. Wilko -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/alpha http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 7 13:50:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com [171.69.43.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE67F37B424; Mon, 7 May 2001 13:50:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f47Kopa29062; Mon, 7 May 2001 13:50:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f47KoMq75699; Mon, 7 May 2001 13:50:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200105072050.f47KoMq75699@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/19/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Wilko Bulte Cc: FreeBSD-alpha mailing list , bmah@freebsd.org, dd@freebsd.org Subject: Re: request for comments / proc-alpha.sgml in -current In-Reply-To: <20010506155336.A43034@freebie.demon.nl> References: <20010506155336.A43034@freebie.demon.nl> Comments: In-reply-to Wilko Bulte message dated "Sun, 06 May 2001 15:53:36 +0200." From: bmah@freebsd.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-1227579965P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 07 May 2001 13:50:22 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-1227579965P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Wilko Bulte wrote: > I appreciate comments that you might have, on bugs/typos/whatever, but also > on the actual sgml. I'm not an experienced sgml user by any measure so > I guess there is room for improvement. Hi Wilko-- First I want to say thanks for dealing with a very large SGML conversion! In addition to picking up from the (very early) point where I left off, you also fixed a number of problems with my mark-up. I'm not that much farther along the SGML road than you are, so I'll leave most of these issues to those who are more qualified than both of us. One thing I noticed before (still not sure how to deal with this) is that there's a lot of places where command lines (with prompts) are dealt with either in-line or as separate elements, but not consistently. As an example, compare the command-line in the "Birds" section versus the command-lines for the Mustang/Avanti. I'm not sure what way makes most sense to fix this, BTW. These are pretty minor things, I think, and I'm sure the rest of the release documentation has similar things that *I* did strangely. They can be fixed up over time. Thanks again.....nice work. Bruce. --==_Exmh_-1227579965P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.5 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 iD8DBQE69wqN2MoxcVugUsMRAsTgAKDkKdWsGfbAewwjg9WreSXC6jfNJwCg0SOn gF5kXR7/4zswLODbmLa80Io= =MUJ2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-1227579965P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 8 0: 2: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF11037B422 for ; Tue, 8 May 2001 00:02:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4871sm50086; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:01:54 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id BD55B18CEA; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:01:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81C6C15905; Tue, 8 May 2001 09:01:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 09:01:53 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: Cc: Subject: Re: machine check problems. In-Reply-To: <20010502070510.1F4B41E4DA@thoreau.thistledown.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello friends. I solved my problem. ACtually I measured hte temperature on hte CPU and it was 80C !! and I measured th temperature on the cache chips and it was 75C it is too much. I added 2 extra fan, one for the CPU and another one on the cache chips. Seems like the default FAN does not spin enough fast, maybe some fault related to the temperature sensor on the CPU. I Also removed hte dissipator from the CPU and reattached it adding the Pee See conducting cream on hte surface between CPU and dissipator and I did not get anymore that machien check problem 0x670 vector. I am having an other problem anyway but this only with FreeBSD and I do not know why. I have a machien check vector 0x660 happening with whatever program cc1 or top or even the swap process 0. is 660 related to memory ?? Anyway I do not know why this problem does not happen on NetBSD. thanks to all anyway any comments are really VERY Appreciated. Rick On Wed, 2 May 2001, Simon Burge wrote: > 670 Processor Uncorrectable unrecoverable cache or TLB errors, or > read of a non-existent I/O space > > Unfortunately, it sounds a little more serious than bad ram... > > Simon. > -- > Simon Burge > NetBSD CDs, Support and Service: http://www.wasabisystems.com/ > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 9 0:38:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29E1B37B423 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 00:38:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f497cAm84281; Wed, 9 May 2001 09:38:11 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B808118CEA; Wed, 9 May 2001 09:38:09 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A1A15905; Wed, 9 May 2001 09:38:09 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 09:38:08 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: Cc: Subject: Personal Workstation 600au Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I had an offer of a Personal Workstation 600au without monitor: $1695.00 plus shipping. it has 128MB RAM do you think is it a good prize or they are just trying to fool me?? thanks Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 9 3: 8:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp [133.9.152.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 882C437B423 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 03:08:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fujimori@prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp) Received: from prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f49A80l23140; Wed, 9 May 2001 19:08:02 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from fujimori@prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp) Message-Id: <200105091008.f49A80l23140@prinz.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Personal Workstation 600au In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 09 May 2001 09:38:08 +0200." Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 19:08:00 +0900 From: Yoriaki FUJIMORI Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I guess computer prices in Europe are usually much higher than in Japan, and I do not know exactly the second-hand market of Alpha systems in Europe. Offer price of 600au tends to be higher here in Japan, somehow, but the final decision may depends on how much B-cache is installed in the system. Yoriaki Fujimori To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 9 3:51:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F06D137B422 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 03:51:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [195.11.243.26] (helo=Debug) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14xRYo-000KQZ-00; Wed, 09 May 2001 10:51:14 +0000 To: Yoriaki FUJIMORI , Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org From: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: Personal Workstation 600au Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 10:51:14 GMT X-Mailer: www.webmail.nl.demon.net X-Sender: postmaster@freebie.demon.nl X-Originating-IP: 161.114.88.76 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FWIW I paid (2 years ago) NLG 1800 for my 433au. Which was then US$ 850 or so. Used machine, 64Mbyte, 4Gb USCSI disk, S3 video. I think I saw a 500au from the same reseller for about the same NLG value (which is now closer to US$800) some weeks back. Wilko > > I guess computer prices in Europe are usually much higher than in Japan, > and I do not know exactly the second-hand market of Alpha systems in > Europe. > Offer price of 600au tends to be higher here in Japan, somehow, but the > final decision may depends on how much B-cache is installed in the system. > > Yoriaki Fujimori > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte http://www.freebsd.org http://www.nlfug.nl To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 9 9:31:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mabelode.imrryr.org (216-240-40-35.ip.idiom.com [216.240.40.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FD2437B423 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 09:31:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from elric@mabelode.imrryr.org) Received: from mabelode.imrryr.org (216-240-40-35.ip.idiom.com [216.240.40.35]) by mabelode.imrryr.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67553DF6; Wed, 9 May 2001 09:31:33 -0700 (PDT) To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: port-alpha@netbsd.org, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Personal Workstation 600au In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 09 May 2001 09:38:08 +0200." Organization: The Fall of Imrryr Reply-To: "R. C. Dowdeswell" X-Copyright: Copyright 2001, R. C. Dowdeswell. All Rights Reserved. X-Window-System: Release 6.3 X-Mailer: nmh-1.0 Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 12:31:33 -0400 From: "R. C. Dowdeswell" Message-Id: <20010509163133.67553DF6@mabelode.imrryr.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 989393888 seconds since the Beginning of the UNIX epoch Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: > > >I had an offer of a Personal Workstation 600au without monitor: >$1695.00 plus shipping. >it has 128MB RAM > >do you think is it a good prize or they are just trying to fool me?? >thanks > >Rick They are probably trying to fool you. I got my 433a last year for ~$600 plus or minus some. Mine came with 128MB ram, two 2 GB SCSI hard drives, an Adaptec 2940UW and a double pci consuming graphics card. For $1700 you might be able to pick up an XP1000 -- which is a lot more fun that the PWS600au. The latest XP1000 that went on ebay sold for $2100, which although it is a bit more than 1700, the box is significantly faster. XP1000's are a bit harder to find on ebay, though, I guess that people are satisfied with them. == Roland Dowdeswell http://www.Imrryr.ORG/~elric/ == == The Unofficial NetBSD Web Pages http://www.Imrryr.ORG/NetBSD/ == == The NetBSD Project http://www.NetBSD.ORG/ == To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 9 12:45:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C63FE37B424 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 12:45:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f49Jin430449; Wed, 9 May 2001 12:44:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 12:44:49 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: port-alpha@netbsd.org, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Personal Workstation 600au Message-ID: <20010509124449.A30388@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it on Wed, May 09, 2001 at 09:38:08AM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 09:38:08AM +0200, Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: > I had an offer of a Personal Workstation 600au without monitor: > $1695.00 plus shipping. > it has 128MB RAM WAY, WAY too much if in USA. Check out eBay. I give a fair price I need to know about the disk and CDROM drive. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 9 19:24:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from netau1.alcanet.com.au (ntp.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 304E937B423 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 19:24:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: from mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au (mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au [139.188.23.1]) by netau1.alcanet.com.au (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA05480 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 12:24:05 +1000 (EST) Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au by cim.alcatel.com.au (PMDF V5.2-32 #37640) with ESMTP id <01K3ED4FSSSWV6LQQT@cim.alcatel.com.au> for alpha@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 May 2001 12:24:01 +1000 Received: (from jeremyp@localhost) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f4A2NvF27230 for alpha@freebsd.org; Thu, 10 May 2001 12:23:57 +1000 (EST envelope-from jeremyp) Content-return: prohibited Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 12:23:57 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: /boot/loader failure To: alpha@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: alpha@freebsd.org Message-id: <20010510122356.B26407@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org After upgrading to -current from last Friday, the boot loader no longer works. It loads, displays the version, memory and then crashes back to the SRM before the "Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf" prompt. My working loader is from 8th February, so there's been a fair amount of change (most obviously, a new version of FICL). The behaviour is the same for the graphics and serial consoles. Has anyone else seen this? Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 9 20:22:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from netau1.alcanet.com.au (ntp.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97ADC37B423 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 20:22:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: from mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au (mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au [139.188.23.1]) by netau1.alcanet.com.au (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA12675 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 13:22:32 +1000 (EST) Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au by cim.alcatel.com.au (PMDF V5.2-32 #37641) with ESMTP id <01K3EF5QRURKRX79P0@cim.alcatel.com.au> for alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 10 May 2001 13:22:19 +1000 Received: (from jeremyp@localhost) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f4A3MRK27838 for alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 10 May 2001 13:22:27 +1000 (EST envelope-from jeremyp) Content-return: prohibited Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 13:22:27 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: /boot/loader failure In-reply-to: <20010510122356.B26407@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au>; from peter.jeremy@ALCATEL.COM.AU on Thu, May 10, 2001 at 12:23:57PM +1000 To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-Followup-To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <20010510132227.C26407@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i References: <20010510122356.B26407@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001-May-10 12:23:57 +1000, Peter Jeremy wrote: >After upgrading to -current from last Friday, the boot loader no >longer works. It loads, displays the version, memory and then crashes >back to the SRM After further digging, I found it was breaking in some FORTH code I has written to patch my cache timing. It turns out that the upgrade to FICL 2.05 has changed `base' from an lvalue to an rvalue , so my forth code to read the current base "base @" was trying (without much success) to reference a longword at address 0xA :-(. Sorry for the false alarm. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 9 22: 8:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13A3937B422 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 22:08:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA29979 for ; Wed, 9 May 2001 22:08:26 -0700 Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 22:08:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: quite amusing, really.... Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, I guess nobody has really cared that alpha 8200s haven't worked since last September..... :-).... The following sys/alpha/clock.c revision is the culprit. The problem here, which, btw, the revision comments makes no mention of, is that there was a direct insertion if i8254 timer code into the alpha clock functions. Uh, the Alpha 8X00 doesn't *have* an i8254, and might not even have an EISA bus at all. This insertion is for clock calibration- not any of what the comments refer to. Quite hilarious, really. ---------------------------- revision 1.17 date: 2000/09/07 01:32:38; author: jasone; state: Exp; lines: +177 -29 Major update to the way synchronization is done in the kernel. Highlights include: * Mutual exclusion is used instead of spl*(). See mutex(9). (Note: The alpha port is still in transition and currently uses both.) * Per-CPU idle processes. * Interrupts are run in their own separate kernel threads and can be preempted (i386 only). Partially contributed by: BSDi (BSD/OS) Submissions by (at least): cp, dfr, dillon, grog, jake, jhb, sheldonh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 10 0: 9: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A13D37B422 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 00:09:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA30258 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 00:09:08 -0700 Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 00:09:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FWIW- Alpha 8X00 working again in -current Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I haven't tried it on a big beefy 8X00- just the small 128MB 8200... but with a couple of tweaks, things are running again. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 10 6:12:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93D0137B424 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 06:12:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4ADAHm27202; Thu, 10 May 2001 15:10:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 916DA18CEA; Thu, 10 May 2001 15:10:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235F715905; Thu, 10 May 2001 15:10:12 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 15:10:12 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Yoriaki FUJIMORI , Subject: Re: Personal Workstation 600au In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have found on ebay a 500au Miata GL with 2MB Bcache 256MB RAM 9GB disk standard PCI Elsa 8MB board. The Miata GL is cool it has both SCSI and IDE sockets. it costs $1299, is it good for you ? :) thanks friends Rick On Wed, 9 May 2001, Wilko Bulte wrote: > Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 10:51:14 GMT > From: Wilko Bulte > To: Yoriaki FUJIMORI , > Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Personal Workstation 600au > > FWIW I paid (2 years ago) NLG 1800 for my 433au. Which was then US$ 850 or > so. Used machine, 64Mbyte, 4Gb USCSI disk, S3 video. > > I think I saw a 500au from the same reseller for about the same NLG value > (which is now closer to US$800) some weeks back. > > Wilko > > > > > I guess computer prices in Europe are usually much higher than in Japan, > > and I do not know exactly the second-hand market of Alpha systems in > > Europe. > > Offer price of 600au tends to be higher here in Japan, somehow, but the > > final decision may depends on how much B-cache is installed in the system. > > > > Yoriaki Fujimori > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > > > -- > | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte http://www.freebsd.org > http://www.nlfug.nl > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 10 7: 3:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF99E37B423; Thu, 10 May 2001 07:03:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4AE3Xm28981; Thu, 10 May 2001 16:03:33 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 67E7E18CE8; Thu, 10 May 2001 16:03:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C6EC15905; Thu, 10 May 2001 16:03:31 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 16:03:31 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Subject: Re: Personal Workstation 600au In-Reply-To: <20010509124449.A30388@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org they talked to me about VAT taxes what is that ??? it mihgt be a lto expensive ? Rick On Wed, 9 May 2001, David O'Brien wrote: > Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 12:44:49 -0700 > From: David O'Brien > To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it > Cc: port-alpha@netbsd.org, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Personal Workstation 600au > > On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 09:38:08AM +0200, Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: > > I had an offer of a Personal Workstation 600au without monitor: > > $1695.00 plus shipping. > > it has 128MB RAM > > WAY, WAY too much if in USA. Check out eBay. I give a fair price I need > to know about the disk and CDROM drive. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 10 9:53:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402BF37B424 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 09:53:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4AGqxG86291; Thu, 10 May 2001 09:52:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 09:52:04 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Matthew Jacob Subject: RE: quite amusing, really.... Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 10-May-01 Matthew Jacob wrote: > > Well, I guess nobody has really cared that alpha 8200s haven't worked since > last September..... :-).... > > The following sys/alpha/clock.c revision is the culprit. > > The problem here, which, btw, the revision comments makes no mention of, is > that there was a direct insertion if i8254 timer code into the alpha clock > functions. Uh, the Alpha 8X00 doesn't *have* an i8254, and might not even > have > an EISA bus at all. This insertion is for clock calibration- not any of what > the comments refer to. > > Quite hilarious, really. This is from the original alpha SMP code. Unfortunately, my attempts to get the SMPng commit split up into smaller commits with better descriptions were not succesful. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 10 10: 3:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BB5437B636; Thu, 10 May 2001 10:03:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA31995; Thu, 10 May 2001 10:03:15 -0700 Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:03:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: John Baldwin Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: quite amusing, really.... In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > This is from the original alpha SMP code. Unfortunately, my attempts to get > the SMPng commit split up into smaller commits with better descriptions were > not succesful. Ah. Well- really, I wasn't being sarcastic. I did find this quite funny. No criticism was intended at all. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 10 10:16:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93AE37B424 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 10:16:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f4AHG9504117; Thu, 10 May 2001 10:16:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:16:08 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Matthew Jacob Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: quite amusing, really.... Message-ID: <20010510101608.A3561@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Wed, May 09, 2001 at 10:08:25PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 10:08:25PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > Well, I guess nobody has really cared that alpha 8200s haven't worked since > last September..... :-).... We care. I can make space in my new lab for an 8200 if you'll get me one. :-) -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 10 10:34:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EF737B423; Thu, 10 May 2001 10:34:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA32166; Thu, 10 May 2001 10:34:49 -0700 Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:34:47 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "David O'Brien" Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: quite amusing, really.... In-Reply-To: <20010510101608.A3561@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have 3 at NASA/Ames, and the DAO folks there have another. There is no project that is actually using any of them at this time. The work I'm required to do at NASA/Ames can only get me to do any FreeBSD work at all, let alone on alphas, let alone on the 8X00, by such an extreme stretch of circumstances, excuses and close to outright fibs that nothing much has, in fact, gotten done. Thus the machines sit idle unless I blow free && hobby time, which is in damned short supply, to do this. You would think I could get them to loan them out or give them away. Nope. That's not how it works. If I excess these machines, they go to special division at NASA/Ames, which then will put them up for auction. If I could find a way to legally open up a vtunnel to these machines so that all of us could use them remotely and the power consumed would be a freebie from NAS, I would. No such luck at that. I am *extremely* frustrated, but, hey, what else is new? On Thu, 10 May 2001, David O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, May 09, 2001 at 10:08:25PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > Well, I guess nobody has really cared that alpha 8200s haven't worked since > > last September..... :-).... > > We care. I can make space in my new lab for an 8200 if you'll get me > one. :-) > > -- > -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 10 11: 5:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 749F337B422 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 11:05:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14xuou-00058f-00; Thu, 10 May 2001 18:05:48 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f4AIAY700748; Thu, 10 May 2001 20:10:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 20:10:34 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthew Jacob Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FWIW- Alpha 8X00 working again in -current Message-ID: <20010510201034.A608@freebie.demon.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Thu, May 10, 2001 at 12:09:06AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 12:09:06AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > I haven't tried it on a big beefy 8X00- just the small 128MB 8200... but > with a couple of tweaks, things are running again. 'My' beefy 8400 still lacks a KFTIA. Hence no floppy & no install :( Stay tuned.. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/alpha http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 10 11:17:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82CC037B422 for ; Thu, 10 May 2001 11:17:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA32393; Thu, 10 May 2001 11:17:37 -0700 Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 11:17:35 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Wilko Bulte Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FWIW- Alpha 8X00 working again in -current In-Reply-To: <20010510201034.A608@freebie.demon.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 10 May 2001, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 12:09:06AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > I haven't tried it on a big beefy 8X00- just the small 128MB 8200... but > > with a couple of tweaks, things are running again. > > 'My' beefy 8400 still lacks a KFTIA. Hence no floppy & no install :( > > Stay tuned.. boot.flp on a disk? > > -- > | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/alpha http://www.freebsd.org > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 11 1:13:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6501F37B424 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 01:13:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f4B8DKd11173; Fri, 11 May 2001 01:13:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 01:13:20 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: Wilko Bulte , Yoriaki FUJIMORI , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Personal Workstation 600au Message-ID: <20010511011320.B11082@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it on Thu, May 10, 2001 at 03:10:12PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 03:10:12PM +0200, Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: > > I have found on ebay a 500au Miata GL with 2MB Bcache 256MB RAM 9GB disk > standard PCI Elsa 8MB board. The Miata GL is cool it has both SCSI and IDE > sockets. it costs $1299, is it good for you ? :) That would be too high for a Miata-MX5. But since I've never seen a GL on eBay, I don't know how much more they command. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 11 7:14:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A03737B424 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 07:14:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4BEEIm63141; Fri, 11 May 2001 16:14:18 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DF2D718CE8; Fri, 11 May 2001 16:14:17 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97C8515905; Fri, 11 May 2001 16:14:17 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 16:14:17 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: Cc: Subject: DEC 3000/600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just got a DEC 3000/600 When it starts up the monitor display a sort of graphic tests then nothing happens I Expect to see hte SRM console prompt but the block white cursor goes in the lower left corner and nothing happens even if I type on the keyboard. Anyone could suggest me anything ?? THen how is this workstation?? is it better or worse than dec3000/300 ?? thanks Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 11 7:28:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C3837B424 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 07:28:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA27062; Fri, 11 May 2001 10:28:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4BERvD83909; Fri, 11 May 2001 10:27:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15099.63213.622578.520701@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 10:27:57 -0400 (EDT) To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: , Subject: Re: DEC 3000/600 In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it writes: > > I just got a DEC 3000/600 > > When it starts up the monitor display a sort of graphic tests then nothing > happens I Expect to see hte SRM console prompt but the block white > cursor goes in the lower left corner and nothing happens even if I type > on the keyboard. Anyone could suggest me anything ?? It sounds like the console may be set to serial, so you may have to connect up a serial terminal -- I've forgotten if the turbochannel alphas will do console I/O from/to a source other than their current console. > THen how is this workstation?? is it better or worse than dec3000/300 ?? > thanks It should be quite a bit better that a 3000/300. FWIW, you probably want to take freebsd-alpha off your CC list for issues with this machine. We don't support the SCSI contoller or the graphics / keyboard console on turbochannel machines. NetBSD does a far better job of device support on these boxes. Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 11 7:48:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from hera.ik.bme.hu (hera.ik.bme.hu [152.66.243.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A5EC37B423 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 07:48:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mohacsi@hera.ik.bme.hu) Received: from localhost (mohacsi@localhost) by hera.ik.bme.hu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA17024 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 16:47:20 +0200 (MET DST) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 16:47:19 +0200 (MET DST) From: Mohacsi Janos To: Subject: 4.3-RELEASE don't on 4100 and 8200. So what? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I tried to boot FreeBSD 4.3 on AlphaServer 4100 and 8200. 4100 starts booting and after loading starts initializing the system the kernel hangs. On 8200 even cannot start initilizing the system. Which FreeBSD should i use to able boot them? Thanks in advance, Janos Mohacsi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 11 8: 6:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50D5C37B43C for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 08:06:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14yEV9-0004CV-00; Fri, 11 May 2001 15:06:43 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f4BF9eh00759; Fri, 11 May 2001 17:09:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 17:09:39 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthew Jacob Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FWIW- Alpha 8X00 working again in -current Message-ID: <20010511170939.A741@freebie.demon.nl> References: <20010510201034.A608@freebie.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Thu, May 10, 2001 at 11:17:35AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 11:17:35AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > On Thu, 10 May 2001, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Thu, May 10, 2001 at 12:09:06AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > > I haven't tried it on a big beefy 8X00- just the small 128MB 8200... but > > > with a couple of tweaks, things are running again. > > > > 'My' beefy 8400 still lacks a KFTIA. Hence no floppy & no install :( > > > > Stay tuned.. > > boot.flp on a disk? Hm, need to get a -current release built first. No time for that, first a week of vacation. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/alpha http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 11 10: 1:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B23937B423 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 10:01:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03213; Fri, 11 May 2001 10:01:47 -0700 Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 10:01:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Wilko Bulte Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FWIW- Alpha 8X00 working again in -current In-Reply-To: <20010511170939.A741@freebie.demon.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > > boot.flp on a disk? > > Hm, need to get a -current release built first. No time for that, first > a week of vacation. Gad, you Europeans sure know how to live..... I'm *jealous*.....:-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 11 10: 2:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from redipn.ipn.mx (redipn.ipn.mx [148.204.179.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3429337B424 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 10:02:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aordonez@redipn.ipn.mx) Received: from recursos ([148.204.196.209]) by redipn.ipn.mx (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f4BH1Ho806096 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 12:01:17 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <001c01c0da3b$d82e1c00$d1c4cc94@recursos.ipn.mx> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Alfredo_Ordo=F1ez_Hernandez?= To: Subject: Question.... Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:54:32 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0DA11.2477BCE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0DA11.2477BCE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable hi folks.. I'm trying to install FreeBSD 4.3 on my DEC3000/800 but it not recognize = the Hard disk what is happend? thanks.. ------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0DA11.2477BCE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
hi folks..
I'm trying to install FreeBSD 4.3 on my = DEC3000/800=20 but it not recognize the Hard disk what is happend?
thanks..
------=_NextPart_000_000D_01C0DA11.2477BCE0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 11 10: 7:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from coruscant.lactating-monkeys.net (workstation-60.cslab.vt.edu [198.82.184.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E59D37B43E for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 10:07:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from xunil@coruscant.lactating-monkeys.net) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by coruscant.lactating-monkeys.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4BH7Bi74581; Fri, 11 May 2001 13:07:11 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xunil) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 13:07:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Wes Kurdziolek Message-Id: <200105111707.f4BH7Bi74581@coruscant.lactating-monkeys.net> X-Authentication-Warning: coruscant.lactating-monkeys.net: nobody set sender to xunil using -f To: aordonez@redipn.ipn.mx Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailer: AeroMail (http://the.cushman.net/reverb/aeromail/) Subject: Re: Question.... Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The SCSI controller on the DEC3000s is not supported by CAM, the FreeBSD SCSI subsystem. I've just begun some work to CAM-ify the old driver from FreeBSD/Alpha 2.2.x and integrate some code from the NetBSD driver, so hopefully FreeBSD/Alpha will be more functional on DEC3000s in a month or two. ---- Original Message ---- From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Alfredo_Ordo=F1ez_Hernandez?= Date: Fri 5/11/01 13:02 To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Question.... hi folks.. I'm trying to install FreeBSD 4.3 on my DEC3000/800 but it not recognize = the Hard disk what is happend? thanks.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 11 10:34:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C257537B424 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 10:34:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA03366; Fri, 11 May 2001 10:34:19 -0700 Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 10:34:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Mohacsi Janos Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.3-RELEASE don't on 4100 and 8200. So what? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yeah, we've had problems with the boot blocks for the CDROM for these platforms and felt it was too risky to make changes about them late in the release cycle. Try and take the boot.flp image (all ~2.88MB of it) and dd it from another system to the absolute front of the disk you want to install either the 4100 or the 8200 on, and the put the disk back onto the 8200 or 4100 and try booting the disk then. -matt On Fri, 11 May 2001, Mohacsi Janos wrote: > Hi, > I tried to boot FreeBSD 4.3 on AlphaServer 4100 and 8200. 4100 > starts booting and after loading starts initializing the system the kernel > hangs. On 8200 even cannot start initilizing the system. Which FreeBSD > should i use to able boot them? > Thanks in advance, > Janos Mohacsi > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 11 10:38:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3569937B423 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 10:38:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14yGry-0007Li-00; Fri, 11 May 2001 17:38:27 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f4BHhF001612; Fri, 11 May 2001 19:43:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 19:43:15 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Wes Kurdziolek Cc: aordonez@redipn.ipn.mx, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Question.... Message-ID: <20010511194315.B1584@freebie.demon.nl> References: <200105111707.f4BH7Bi74581@coruscant.lactating-monkeys.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <200105111707.f4BH7Bi74581@coruscant.lactating-monkeys.net>; from xunil@lactating-monkeys.net on Fri, May 11, 2001 at 01:07:11PM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 01:07:11PM -0400, Wes Kurdziolek wrote: This *is* documented in HARDWARE.TXT on the install CD... W/ > The SCSI controller on the DEC3000s is not supported by CAM, the FreeBSD SCSI > subsystem. I've just begun some work to CAM-ify the old driver from FreeBSD/Alpha > 2.2.x and integrate some code from the NetBSD driver, so hopefully FreeBSD/Alpha > will be more functional on DEC3000s in a month or two. > > ---- Original Message ---- > From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Alfredo_Ordo=F1ez_Hernandez?= > Date: Fri 5/11/01 13:02 > To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Question.... > > hi folks.. > I'm trying to install FreeBSD 4.3 on my DEC3000/800 but it not recognize = > the Hard disk what is happend? > thanks.. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/alpha http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 11 11: 6:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from redipn.ipn.mx (redipn.ipn.mx [148.204.179.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA8537B424 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 11:06:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from aordonez@redipn.ipn.mx) Received: from recursos ([148.204.196.209]) by redipn.ipn.mx (8.10.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f4BI5oo806035 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 13:05:50 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <007101c0da44$dc2f69e0$d1c4cc94@recursos.ipn.mx> From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Alfredo_Ordo=F1ez_Hernandez?= To: Subject: Sorry.... Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 13:04:44 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_006E_01C0DA1A.F30E9D40" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C0DA1A.F30E9D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I'm here again... Ok... I boot from dka4, it's ok and I see the menu, but when I try to install=20 I choose: Standar Installation and then the message: No disk Found!!!, (when the server has two HD Seagate Model ST12400N 2GB) so.. Can I install FreeBSD on my server? if not, what OS do you recommend to install... 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------=_NextPart_000_006E_01C0DA1A.F30E9D40-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 11 11:13: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5EAA37B43C for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 11:12:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA01773; Fri, 11 May 2001 14:12:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4BICTD84319; Fri, 11 May 2001 14:12:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <15100.11149.276332.902180@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 14:12:29 -0400 (EDT) To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Alfredo_Ordo=F1ez_Hernandez?= Cc: Subject: Re: Sorry.... In-Reply-To: <007101c0da44$dc2f69e0$d1c4cc94@recursos.ipn.mx> References: <007101c0da44$dc2f69e0$d1c4cc94@recursos.ipn.mx> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alfredo Ordo=F1ez Hernandez writes: > I'm here again... >=20 > Ok... > I boot from dka4, it's ok and I see the menu, but when I try to inst= all=20 > I choose: Standar Installation > and then the message: No disk Found!!!, (when the server has two H= D > Seagate Model ST12400N 2GB) so.. > Can I install FreeBSD on my server? > if not, what OS do you recommend to install... > Thanks... As the reply to your previous question stated: FreeBSD doesn't support the SCSI controller on your machine. While work is in progress to support it, you can only install FreeBSD in a diskless configuration now. This is not easy to do. I suggest installing the latest version of NetBSD on this machine. They have far better support for the DEC3000 (turbochannel) machines. Drew PS: Please do not post html to the FreeBSD/alpha mailing list. -----------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer=09http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallat= in Duke University=09=09=09=09Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science=09=09Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 11 11:14: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from feral.com (feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B82CE37B43F for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 11:14:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (beppo [192.67.166.79]) by feral.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA03628; Fri, 11 May 2001 11:14:00 -0700 Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:13:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Alfredo_Ordo=F1ez_Hernandez?= Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sorry.... In-Reply-To: <007101c0da44$dc2f69e0$d1c4cc94@recursos.ipn.mx> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What hardware do you have? On Fri, 11 May 2001, [iso-8859-1] Alfredo Ordo=F1ez Hernandez wrote: > I'm here again... >=20 > Ok... > I boot from dka4, it's ok and I see the menu, but when I try to install= =20 > I choose: Standar Installation > and then the message: No disk Found!!!, (when the server has two HD > Seagate Model ST12400N 2GB) so.. > Can I install FreeBSD on my server? > if not, what OS do you recommend to install... > Thanks... >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 11 13:48:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from switch2.switchpwr.com (switch1.switchpwr.com [12.14.48.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536F337B424 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 13:48:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from melk@switchpwr.com) Received: from switchpwr.com (switch1.switchpwr.com [12.14.48.19]) by switch2.switchpwr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4BKcvD16331 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 16:38:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3AFC4F91.1F03C18F@switchpwr.com> Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 20:46:09 +0000 From: mel kravitz Organization: switching power inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; NetBSD 1.5U alpha) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: boot floppy (kern.flp) for as1200? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Any one successful booting an alphaserver 1200 with 4.3 kern.flp? My machine stops after : Memory 262144k / -thats all she wrote, hangs at that point , then goes banannas on the monitor -scrolling text... This is a dual 533 MP machine. I would like to boot it and build an SMP kernel. See what this guy can do. -Mel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 11 14: 0:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D93FE37B423 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 14:00:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05221; Fri, 11 May 2001 17:00:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4BL0Ki84826; Fri, 11 May 2001 17:00:20 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15100.21220.209940.405489@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 17:00:20 -0400 (EDT) To: mel kravitz Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: boot floppy (kern.flp) for as1200? In-Reply-To: <3AFC4F91.1F03C18F@switchpwr.com> References: <3AFC4F91.1F03C18F@switchpwr.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org mel kravitz writes: > Hi, > Any one successful booting an alphaserver 1200 with 4.3 kern.flp? My > machine stops after : > Memory 262144k > / > -thats all she wrote, hangs at that point , then goes banannas on the > monitor -scrolling text... > This is a dual 533 MP machine. I would like to boot it and build an SMP > kernel. See what this guy can do. The loader is broken in 4.3-RELEASE. It was fixed just prior to the release in -current, but it never made it into 4.3-RELEASE because there wasn't enough time for sufficient testing so as to ensure the fix didn't introduce other bugs on other platforms. Try installing with the boot floppy at http://my.beerfountain.com/~miker/new-kern.flp -- this was a test floppy put up by the person who fixed the loader for 1200s (and other big-iron platforms). There may be more recent floppies available -- I don't know. Once you've installed, you'll need to upgrade to -current via a "make world" / mergemaster combo in order to be able to use SMP. Be warned that -current is a developers platform, and may be unstable, etc. In addition, number of debugging options are enabled in the kernel (WITNESS, INVARIANTS, DIAGNOSTIC, etc) and in userland (malloc debugging flags) that will make the machine appear much more sluggish than it really is. Good luck, Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 11 14: 4:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A81037B423 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 14:04:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05275 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 17:04:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4BL3tx85617; Fri, 11 May 2001 17:03:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15100.21435.602270.609913@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 17:03:55 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: boot floppy (kern.flp) for as1200? In-Reply-To: <15100.21220.209940.405489@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> References: <3AFC4F91.1F03C18F@switchpwr.com> <15100.21220.209940.405489@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Gallatin writes: > > mel kravitz writes: > > Hi, > > Any one successful booting an alphaserver 1200 with 4.3 kern.flp? My > > machine stops after : > > Memory 262144k > > / > > -thats all she wrote, hangs at that point , then goes banannas on the > > monitor -scrolling text... > > This is a dual 533 MP machine. I would like to boot it and build an SMP > > kernel. See what this guy can do. > > The loader is broken in 4.3-RELEASE. It was fixed just prior to the Let me amend this for the archives -- the loader is broken for "big iron" platforms such as the AlphaServer 1200, 4000, 4100, and 8x00. It works just fine elsewhere. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 11 14:44:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68BC637B43E for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 14:44:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14yKiD-0003sM-00; Fri, 11 May 2001 21:44:37 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f4BLnQ502577; Fri, 11 May 2001 23:49:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 23:49:26 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot floppy (kern.flp) for as1200? Message-ID: <20010511234926.A2562@freebie.demon.nl> References: <3AFC4F91.1F03C18F@switchpwr.com> <15100.21220.209940.405489@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <15100.21435.602270.609913@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <15100.21435.602270.609913@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Fri, May 11, 2001 at 05:03:55PM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 05:03:55PM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Andrew Gallatin writes: > > > > mel kravitz writes: > > > Hi, > > > Any one successful booting an alphaserver 1200 with 4.3 kern.flp? My > > > machine stops after : > > > Memory 262144k > > > / > > > -thats all she wrote, hangs at that point , then goes banannas on the > > > monitor -scrolling text... > > > This is a dual 533 MP machine. I would like to boot it and build an SMP > > > kernel. See what this guy can do. > > > > The loader is broken in 4.3-RELEASE. It was fixed just prior to the > > Let me amend this for the archives -- the loader is broken for "big > iron" platforms such as the AlphaServer 1200, 4000, 4100, and 8x00. > It works just fine elsewhere. Which reminds me: has an MFC ever taken place? Given the limited -alpha population with big iron the fixes might as well be in RELENG_4 now. [at least I think so.. :-] -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/alpha http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 11 21:54: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from VL-MS-MR003.sc1.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9E6237B43C for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 21:54:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leclercn@videotron.ca) Received: from atom.quanta.ca ([24.201.58.19]) by VL-MS-MR003.sc1.videotron.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GD7HM502.NUC for ; Sat, 12 May 2001 00:54:05 -0400 Received: from videotron.ca ([192.168.56.40]) by atom.quanta.ca (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) with ESMTP id f4C4tOe7008602 for ; Sat, 12 May 2001 00:55:24 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3AFCC23A.4000603@videotron.ca> Date: Sat, 12 May 2001 00:55:22 -0400 From: Normand Leclerc User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: osf libcurses.so Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was wondering if libcurses.so for Tru64 is freely distributable... Anyone knows? I have a piece of software for OSF to be run under FreeBSD and it needs it... I can't find anyting on this subject... Normand Leclerc leclercn@videotron.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 11 22:59: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1597A37B423 for ; Fri, 11 May 2001 22:59:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f4C5wLb65890; Fri, 11 May 2001 22:58:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 22:58:21 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Andrew Gallatin , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: boot floppy (kern.flp) for as1200? Message-ID: <20010511225821.A65857@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <3AFC4F91.1F03C18F@switchpwr.com> <15100.21220.209940.405489@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <15100.21435.602270.609913@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20010511234926.A2562@freebie.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010511234926.A2562@freebie.demon.nl>; from wkb@freebie.demon.nl on Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:49:26PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, May 11, 2001 at 11:49:26PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > Which reminds me: has an MFC ever taken place? Given the limited -alpha > population with big iron the fixes might as well be in RELENG_4 now. > [at least I think so.. :-] Andrew, do you want me to handle this, or would you like to? -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message