From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 13 8:46:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E787937B423 for ; Sun, 13 May 2001 08:46:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4DFkZm15039 for ; Sun, 13 May 2001 17:46:35 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4822A18CE8; Sun, 13 May 2001 17:46:34 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id E499E15905 for ; Sun, 13 May 2001 17:46:34 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 17:46:33 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: 500au Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org the Digital PErsonal Workstaion 500a or 500au are they both well supported by FreeBSD anyone here use a 500 a or 500au with FreeBSD ?? thanks Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 13 9: 4:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0081A37B424 for ; Sun, 13 May 2001 09:04:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23504; Sun, 13 May 2001 12:04:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4DG3wR18634; Sun, 13 May 2001 12:03:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15102.45166.337535.166495@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 12:03:58 -0400 (EDT) To: Normand Leclerc Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: osf libcurses.so In-Reply-To: <3AFCC23A.4000603@videotron.ca> References: <3AFCC23A.4000603@videotron.ca> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Normand Leclerc writes: > I was wondering if libcurses.so for Tru64 is freely > distributable... Anyone knows? I have a piece of software for OSF to > be run under FreeBSD and it needs it... I can't find anyting on this > subject... > No Tru64 libs are "freely distributable" (unless somebody has compiled those libraries themselves from open sources). The closest any libraries come is the libs that Compaq distributes so that the OSF/1 Netscape will run, and those libs are not included there. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 13 9: 7: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 864C737B43C for ; Sun, 13 May 2001 09:07:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA23520; Sun, 13 May 2001 12:07:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4DG6VJ18640; Sun, 13 May 2001 12:06:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15102.45319.65597.205221@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 12:06:31 -0400 (EDT) To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: Subject: Re: 500au In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it writes: > > the Digital PErsonal Workstaion 500a or 500au are they both well supported > by FreeBSD anyone here use a 500 a or 500au with FreeBSD ?? > thanks > > Rick > Yes. The only caveats are that X is a bit flakey. Somewhat less flakey than on an AS200, but still fakey. My home box is a 433au, and it crashes about 1 out of ever 20 starts of the X server. X is only bulletproof on tsunami or irongate based machines... Other than that, its pretty well supported. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 13 9:36: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from tango.entreri.com (tango.entreri.com [205.219.158.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8DEC37B424 for ; Sun, 13 May 2001 09:35:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dp@penix.org) Received: from penix.org (Toronto-ppp221210.sympatico.ca [64.228.106.27]) by tango.entreri.com (8.10.2/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f4DGZqx17926; Sun, 13 May 2001 11:35:52 -0500 Message-ID: <3AFEBAE5.58F3810A@penix.org> Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 12:48:37 -0400 From: Paul Halliday X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-RC i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 500au References: <15102.45319.65597.205221@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it writes: > > > > the Digital PErsonal Workstaion 500a or 500au are they both well supported > > by FreeBSD anyone here use a 500 a or 500au with FreeBSD ?? > > thanks > > > > Rick > > > > Yes. The only caveats are that X is a bit flakey. Somewhat less > flakey than on an AS200, but still fakey. Strange, I have never had any problems with X on my AS200. >My home box is a 433au, and > it crashes about 1 out of ever 20 starts of the X server. X is only > bulletproof on tsunami or irongate based machines... > > Other than that, its pretty well supported. > > Drew > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message -- Paul Halliday. http://dp.penix.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 13 10: 9:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from local.localhost (ool-18be50b9.dyn.optonline.net [24.190.80.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B651737B424 for ; Sun, 13 May 2001 10:09:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kulua@reefedge.com) Received: from localhost (kulua@localhost) by local.localhost (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4DH25G02847; Sun, 13 May 2001 12:02:06 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: local.localhost: kulua owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 12:02:05 -0500 (CDT) From: "M. Osten" X-Sender: kulua@local.localhost To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 500au In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > the Digital PErsonal Workstaion 500a or 500au are they both well supported > by FreeBSD anyone here use a 500 a or 500au with FreeBSD ?? > thanks > > Rick I'm using a 500au. I just got it, and installed freebsd. Everything *seems* to be working alright, but I'll know more in a couple of days. Mail me off list, and we'll go through it all together :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 13 12:48:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.interchange.ca (ns.interchange.ca [216.126.79.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E666B37B423 for ; Sun, 13 May 2001 12:48:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@fastmail.ca) Received: by mail.interchange.ca (Fastmailer, from userid 555) id 4A7E221BF; Sun, 13 May 2001 15:47:47 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3AFEE4E3.0000EF.34583@frodo.searchcanada.ca> Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_NNHA25RCC5GNTT4D7TH0" To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: AS1200 boot loader From: "Michael Richards" X-Fastmail-IP: 24.43.130.237 Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 15:47:47 -0400 (EDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------Boundary-00=_NNHA25RCC5GNTT4D7TH0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Try installing with the boot floppy at > http://my.beerfountain.com/~miker/new-kern.flp -- this was a test > floppy put up by the person who fixed the loader for 1200s (and > other big-iron platforms). There may be more recent floppies > available -- I don't know. That floppy implements the latest changes that I'm aware of. In order to work 100% on non-intel platforms the loader needs to be significantly changed so it can know when you intend to change a floppy so it can close the disk device through SRM. My suggestion so far has been to implement a "changedisk" command in the loader script but I haven't had the chance to implement it yet. So much work, so little time. I may try to get back to it within the next few weeks. -Michael _________________________________________________________________ http://fastmail.ca/ - Fast Free Web Email for Canadians --------------Boundary-00=_NNHA25RCC5GNTT4D7TH0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 13 16:15:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from coruscant.lactating-monkeys.net (workstation-60.cslab.vt.edu [198.82.184.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 223EE37B422 for ; Sun, 13 May 2001 16:15:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from xunil@coruscant.lactating-monkeys.net) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by coruscant.lactating-monkeys.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4DNFS817045; Sun, 13 May 2001 19:15:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xunil) Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 19:15:28 -0400 (EDT) From: Wes Kurdziolek Message-Id: <200105132315.f4DNFS817045@coruscant.lactating-monkeys.net> X-Authentication-Warning: coruscant.lactating-monkeys.net: nobody set sender to xunil using -f To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Cc: X-Mailer: AeroMail (http://the.cushman.net/reverb/aeromail/) Subject: Re: 500au Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If you're using a TGA2 card as the console, make sure to upgrade to at least 4.3- RELEASE because those cards are flaky for consoles before then. It was always nice when you had a long build (e.g. make world) on one console and random chunks of text from that console appearing as kernel messages on all your other consoles where root was logged in.... ---- Original Message ---- From: M. Osten Date: Sun 5/13/01 13:09 To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 500au > > the Digital PErsonal Workstaion 500a or 500au are they both well supported > by FreeBSD anyone here use a 500 a or 500au with FreeBSD ?? > thanks > > Rick I'm using a 500au. I just got it, and installed freebsd. Everything *seems* to be working alright, but I'll know more in a couple of days. Mail me off list, and we'll go through it all together :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 13 19: 9:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from web11603.mail.yahoo.com (web11603.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.172.55]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 87A9037B43C for ; Sun, 13 May 2001 19:09:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kbagel@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010514020918.95280.qmail@web11603.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [132.170.29.132] by web11603.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 13 May 2001 19:09:18 PDT Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 19:09:18 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Meno Subject: kernel in 4.3 on LX To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi I'm trying to include ext2 support in my kernel In /usr/src/sys/alpha/conf/MYKERNEL I add options EXT2FS but when I make depend it complains about ../../gnu/ext2fs/ext2_linux_balloc.c:48: #error Provide an bitops.h file,please ! and ../../gnu/ext2fs/ext2_linux_ialloc.c:51: #error please provide bit operation functions where do this files come from? TIA Greg Meno __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 14 0:43: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5732737B42C for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 00:42:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4E7gvm31012 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 09:42:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 24BAA18CE8; Mon, 14 May 2001 09:42:56 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C9115905 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 09:42:56 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 09:42:56 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: 500au In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry people I gave a bad information before. I saw a offer a good one about 500a (NOT 500au) is the 500a model supported very well ?? I mean if I have a scsi board adaptec or QLogic PCI boards will it work with freebsd ?? I mean is the a model as good as the au models running FreeBSD or might I have lotsa problems ?? Can I even use IDE disks ?? thanks Rick On Sun, 13 May 2001, M. Osten wrote: > Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 12:02:05 -0500 (CDT) > From: M. Osten > To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it > Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: 500au > > > > > > the Digital PErsonal Workstaion 500a or 500au are they both well supported > > by FreeBSD anyone here use a 500 a or 500au with FreeBSD ?? > > thanks > > > > Rick > > I'm using a 500au. I just got it, and installed freebsd. Everything > *seems* to be working alright, but I'll know more in a couple of > days. Mail me off list, and we'll go through it all together :) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 14 7:21:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 718FC37B42C for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 07:21:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05949; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:21:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4EEKsL20712; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:20:54 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15103.59846.847629.154080@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 10:20:54 -0400 (EDT) To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: Subject: Re: 500au In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it writes: > > Sorry people I gave a bad information before. > I saw a offer a good one about 500a (NOT 500au) > is the 500a model supported very well ?? > I mean if I have a scsi board adaptec or QLogic PCI boards > will it work with freebsd ?? > I mean is the a model as good as the au models running FreeBSD or might I > have lotsa problems ?? > Can I even use IDE disks ?? > thanks > > Rick > Please read the FreeBSD documentation. See "HARDWARE.TXT" from 4.3-RELEASE. (ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/alpha/4.3-RELEASE/HARDWARE.TXT) Search for "Miata" Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 14 7:24:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from maiatech.com (maiatech.com [204.246.250.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1354E37B43E for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 07:24:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@code-fu.com) Received: from TECHY07.code-fu.com (hqbusi04-gw.pipex.net [158.43.125.190]) by maiatech.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4EEMkP02448 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 10:22:46 -0400 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010514151609.00a6dc48@www.maiatech.com> X-Sender: msmith@www.maiatech.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 15:24:21 +0100 To: From: "Michael A. Smith" Subject: Re: 500au In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 09:42 2001-05-14 +0200, Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: >I saw a offer a good one about 500a (NOT 500au) >is the 500a model supported very well ?? >I mean if I have a scsi board adaptec or QLogic PCI boards >will it work with freebsd ?? >I mean is the a model as good as the au models running FreeBSD or might I >have lotsa problems ?? I can't give you a FreeBSD answer (I know...), but I can shed some light on the situation from a Linux perspective (running SRM). I bought a PWS433a on ebay to run Linux. I checked the digital/Compaq sites to get old manuals, etc... (very good resources to be had). I upgraded the BIOS to the latest version of SRM for the machine. The "a" models (433a, 500a, 600a) are a tiny bit different from the "au" models. They have Adaptec SCSI boards (from which you cannot boot via SRM) PLUS the motherboard layouts are a bit different. They *are* physically different machines. I swapped my Adaptec SCSI with a Tekram SCSI board that SRM recognizes. I also pulled the weird two-slot video card and replaced it with an old Matrox Millenium II I had lying about. Then I installed Linux. I've not had a single problem. The SRM even identifies the machine as a 433au now (even though it's not). I've had great luck with the machine. Good luck! -- "When a man is tired of London he is tired of life; for there is in London all that life can afford." -- Samuel Johnson -- Michael A. Smith To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 14 12:47:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9FD37B43E for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 12:47:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f4EJl1E03655; Mon, 14 May 2001 12:47:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 12:47:01 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Michael A. Smith" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 500au Message-ID: <20010514124701.A2926@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010514151609.00a6dc48@www.maiatech.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010514151609.00a6dc48@www.maiatech.com>; from msmith@code-fu.com on Mon, May 14, 2001 at 03:24:21PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 03:24:21PM +0100, Michael A. Smith wrote: > The "a" models (433a, 500a, 600a) are a tiny bit different from the "au" > models. They have Adaptec SCSI boards (from which you cannot boot via SRM) > PLUS the motherboard layouts are a bit different. They *are* physically > different machines. That is NOT true. EVERY `a' model I've seen has a Qlogic 1040 SCSI controller in it. I am willing to bet someone replaced it with the Adaptec controller you have. The motherboard layouts are the same. What do you think is different about them? Or are you comparing the MX5 models with the GL models? I do know that the `a' models have ATAPI CDROM drives vs. the SCSI ones of the `au' models. I believe there are also video differences between the two models. Every Miata I have bought for FreeBSD development (5) + the DEC loaners are `a' modules and all run FreeBSD fine w/o hardware changes once the firmware was updated and switched to SRM. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 14 12:55:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F4D837B423; Mon, 14 May 2001 12:55:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13332; Mon, 14 May 2001 15:55:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4EJspv21404; Mon, 14 May 2001 15:54:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15104.14347.755427.1449@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 15:54:51 -0400 (EDT) To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 500au In-Reply-To: <20010514124701.A2926@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010514151609.00a6dc48@www.maiatech.com> <20010514124701.A2926@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien writes: > On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 03:24:21PM +0100, Michael A. Smith wrote: > > The "a" models (433a, 500a, 600a) are a tiny bit different from the "au" > > models. They have Adaptec SCSI boards (from which you cannot boot via SRM) > > PLUS the motherboard layouts are a bit different. They *are* physically > > different machines. > > That is NOT true. EVERY `a' model I've seen has a Qlogic 1040 SCSI > controller in it. I am willing to bet someone replaced it with the > Adaptec controller you have. The motherboard layouts are the same. What For "MX5" "a" miatas, the orignal equipment SCSI controllers are Adaptec. I'll bet that somebody replaced the Adaptecs in your MX5s with Qlogic boards before you got them. > do you think is different about them? Or are you comparing the MX5 > models with the GL models? I do know that the `a' models have ATAPI > CDROM drives vs. the SCSI ones of the `au' models. I believe there are FWIW, our "au" models came with atapi scsi drives. > also video differences between the two models. > > Every Miata I have bought for FreeBSD development (5) + the DEC loaners > are `a' modules and all run FreeBSD fine w/o hardware changes once the > firmware was updated and switched to SRM. > Yes.. All Miatas will run FreeBSD just fine once the firmware is switched to SRM. As far as not needing h/w changes, you just got lucky with the SCSI board, and that's an SRM constraint, not really a FreeBSD one ;-) Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 14 13:24:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D05B37B424 for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 13:24:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f4EKOFL17639; Mon, 14 May 2001 13:24:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:24:15 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 500au Message-ID: <20010514132415.A821@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010514151609.00a6dc48@www.maiatech.com> <20010514124701.A2926@dragon.nuxi.com> <15104.14347.755427.1449@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15104.14347.755427.1449@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Mon, May 14, 2001 at 03:54:51PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 03:54:51PM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > That is NOT true. EVERY `a' model I've seen has a Qlogic 1040 SCSI > > controller in it. I am willing to bet someone replaced it with the > > Adaptec controller you have. The motherboard layouts are the same. What > > For "MX5" "a" miatas, the orignal equipment SCSI controllers are > Adaptec. I'll bet that somebody replaced the Adaptecs in your MX5s > with Qlogic boards before you got them. ... > FWIW, our "au" models came with atapi scsi drives. (*sigh*) I've heard "authoritatively" from others what I said above. I am starting to think nobody knows how DEC configured these systems -- or maybe there was a long list of options that often got chosen. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 14 13:37:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6CF37B423; Mon, 14 May 2001 13:37:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4EKinG02246; Mon, 14 May 2001 13:44:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200105142044.f4EKinG02246@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Andrew Gallatin , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 500au In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 14 May 2001 13:24:15 PDT." <20010514132415.A821@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:44:49 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 03:54:51PM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > That is NOT true. EVERY `a' model I've seen has a Qlogic 1040 SCSI > > > controller in it. I am willing to bet someone replaced it with the > > > Adaptec controller you have. The motherboard layouts are the same. What > > > > For "MX5" "a" miatas, the orignal equipment SCSI controllers are > > Adaptec. I'll bet that somebody replaced the Adaptecs in your MX5s > > with Qlogic boards before you got them. > ... > > FWIW, our "au" models came with atapi scsi drives. > > (*sigh*) I've heard "authoritatively" from others what I said above. I > am starting to think nobody knows how DEC configured these systems -- or > maybe there was a long list of options that often got chosen. From what I've heard/read, this is correct; you could specify either Qlogic or Adaptec for a system shipping with NT, but only Qlogic for a system shipping with OSF. It was possible to order an 'au' system with NT, confusing the matter significantly. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 14 14:41:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from coruscant.lactating-monkeys.net (workstation-60.cslab.vt.edu [198.82.184.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCCBB37B42C; Mon, 14 May 2001 14:41:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from xunil@coruscant.lactating-monkeys.net) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by coruscant.lactating-monkeys.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f4ELfTX19442; Mon, 14 May 2001 17:41:29 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from xunil) Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 17:41:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Wes Kurdziolek Message-Id: <200105142141.f4ELfTX19442@coruscant.lactating-monkeys.net> X-Authentication-Warning: coruscant.lactating-monkeys.net: nobody set sender to xunil using -f To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: AeroMail (http://the.cushman.net/reverb/aeromail/) Subject: Re: 500au Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've got an unmodified 500au that was bought from Compaq that came w/ an ATAPI CD- ROM drive. Of course, it was probably custom-ordered over the phone. ---- Original Message ---- From: David O'Brien Date: Mon 5/14/01 15:47 To: Michael A. Smith Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 500au On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 03:24:21PM +0100, Michael A. Smith wrote: > The "a" models (433a, 500a, 600a) are a tiny bit different from the "au" > models. They have Adaptec SCSI boards (from which you cannot boot via SRM) > PLUS the motherboard layouts are a bit different. They *are* physically > different machines. That is NOT true. EVERY `a' model I've seen has a Qlogic 1040 SCSI controller in it. I am willing to bet someone replaced it with the Adaptec controller you have. The motherboard layouts are the same. What do you think is different about them? Or are you comparing the MX5 models with the GL models? I do know that the `a' models have ATAPI CDROM drives vs. the SCSI ones of the `au' models. I believe there are also video differences between the two models. Every Miata I have bought for FreeBSD development (5) + the DEC loaners are `a' modules and all run FreeBSD fine w/o hardware changes once the firmware was updated and switched to SRM. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 14 19:27: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp014.mail.yahoo.com (smtp014.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 285E937B62B for ; Mon, 14 May 2001 19:27:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nald_s@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO pikachu) (202.149.129.246) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 15 May 2001 02:26:59 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <000001c0dce6$cde72400$180310ac@starko.co.id> From: "ronald" To: Subject: installation.. Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:27:56 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Disposition-Notification-To: "ronald" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org heloo..i've alpha server 800/400 system's can i use that machine to install freebsd ?? i;been try install using 'ftp'...and finished ..but when i boot from srm console ..the machine halted.. >>>b dka0 . . . halt code =2 kernel stack not valid halt PC =fffffc00005c8190 how should i do next ?? -ron- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 15 0:11:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26D3237B423; Tue, 15 May 2001 00:11:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4F7Bmm63813; Tue, 15 May 2001 09:11:48 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7685418CE8; Tue, 15 May 2001 09:11:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DF3815905; Tue, 15 May 2001 09:11:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:11:47 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Andrew Gallatin , Subject: Re: 500au In-Reply-To: <20010514132415.A821@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear friends I think DAvid is right noone really knows at al lthe exact configuration of these Miatas. Somene even told me that there were models of MiataGL without the 2 USB ports. In the DreeBSD HARDWARE.TXT is reported that a MiataGL must have in the rear 2 USB port but this machine I am about to buy is a MiataGL wiouth the 2 USB ports... Rick On Mon, 14 May 2001, David O'Brien wrote: > Date: Mon, 14 May 2001 13:24:15 -0700 > From: David O'Brien > To: Andrew Gallatin > Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: 500au > > On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 03:54:51PM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > That is NOT true. EVERY `a' model I've seen has a Qlogic 1040 SCSI > > > controller in it. I am willing to bet someone replaced it with the > > > Adaptec controller you have. The motherboard layouts are the same. What > > > > For "MX5" "a" miatas, the orignal equipment SCSI controllers are > > Adaptec. I'll bet that somebody replaced the Adaptecs in your MX5s > > with Qlogic boards before you got them. > ... > > FWIW, our "au" models came with atapi scsi drives. > > (*sigh*) I've heard "authoritatively" from others what I said above. I > am starting to think nobody knows how DEC configured these systems -- or > maybe there was a long list of options that often got chosen. > > -- > -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 15 4: 9:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from teebar.directski.com (mauer.directski.com [193.95.161.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08B5E37B42C; Tue, 15 May 2001 04:09:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dermot@directski.com) Received: from directski.com (dermot.traveldev.com [192.168.0.50]) by teebar.directski.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4FB9dK93808; Tue, 15 May 2001 12:09:39 +0100 (IST) (envelope-from dermot@directski.com) Message-ID: <3B010E74.CA20001D@directski.com> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 12:09:40 +0100 From: Dermot McNally X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: ga,de,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Andrew Gallatin , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 500au References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010514151609.00a6dc48@www.maiatech.com> <20010514124701.A2926@dragon.nuxi.com> <15104.14347.755427.1449@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20010514132415.A821@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien wrote: > (*sigh*) I've heard "authoritatively" from others what I said above. I > am starting to think nobody knows how DEC configured these systems -- or > maybe there was a long list of options that often got chosen. "Me too": My 433a came with Qlogic controller, SCSI HD and ATAPI CD-ROM. Lucky enough, as I had never considered that some controllers would fail to boot under != Windows. Dermot -- --------------------------------------------------------------- Dermot McNally, Chief Technical Officer, Directski.com dermot@directski.com http://www.directski.com - ski the web To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 15 6:19:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC7DC37B423 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 06:19:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA25882; Tue, 15 May 2001 09:19:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4FDIkR23180; Tue, 15 May 2001 09:18:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15105.11446.851975.480818@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 09:18:46 -0400 (EDT) To: "ronald" Cc: Subject: Re: installation.. In-Reply-To: <000001c0dce6$cde72400$180310ac@starko.co.id> References: <000001c0dce6$cde72400$180310ac@starko.co.id> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ronald writes: > heloo..i've alpha server 800/400 system's can i use that machine to install > freebsd ?? > i;been try install using 'ftp'...and finished ..but when i boot from srm > console ..the machine halted.. > >>>b dka0 > . > . > . > halt code =2 > kernel stack not valid halt > PC =fffffc00005c8190 > > how should i do next ?? > How is your disk layed out? You *must* have the root partition be 'a' and be the first partition on the disk. If you, for example, put another partition first on the disk (such as 'b'), that would explain your boot failure. Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 15 13:23: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from local.localhost (ool-18be50b9.dyn.optonline.net [24.190.80.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3898937B422; Tue, 15 May 2001 13:22:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kulua@reefedge.com) Received: from localhost (kulua@localhost) by local.localhost (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4FKFjP06506; Tue, 15 May 2001 15:15:45 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: local.localhost: kulua owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:15:45 -0500 (CDT) From: "M. Osten" X-Sender: kulua@local.localhost To: "David O'Brien" Cc: "Michael A. Smith" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 500au In-Reply-To: <20010514124701.A2926@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > That is NOT true. EVERY `a' model I've seen has a Qlogic 1040 SCSI > controller in it. I am willing to bet someone replaced it with the > Adaptec controller you have. The motherboard layouts are the same. What > do you think is different about them? Or are you comparing the MX5 > models with the GL models? I do know that the `a' models have ATAPI > CDROM drives vs. the SCSI ones of the `au' models. I believe there are > also video differences between the two models. Hum...the older PWS had adaptec controllers...hence no srm. I have a "au" (shipped with NT) and have a IDE cdrom. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 15 15:33:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 719E337B423 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 15:33:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f4FMXBg12557; Tue, 15 May 2001 15:33:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 15:33:11 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: "M. Osten" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 500au Message-ID: <20010515153310.A12497@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010514124701.A2926@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from kulua@reefedge.com on Tue, May 15, 2001 at 03:15:45PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 03:15:45PM -0500, M. Osten wrote: > Hum...the older PWS had adaptec controllers...hence no srm. What does what controller a PWS has have anything to do with the existence of SRM? You have SRM, it just may not be the active firmware. But you do have it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 15 17: 8:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from local.localhost (ool-18be50b9.dyn.optonline.net [24.190.80.185]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2264837B43C; Tue, 15 May 2001 17:08:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kulua@reefedge.com) Received: from localhost (kulua@localhost) by local.localhost (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4G01fb06710; Tue, 15 May 2001 19:01:41 -0500 X-Authentication-Warning: local.localhost: kulua owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 15 May 2001 19:01:41 -0500 (CDT) From: "M. Osten" X-Sender: kulua@local.localhost To: "David O'Brien" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 500au In-Reply-To: <20010515153310.A12497@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 03:15:45PM -0500, M. Osten wrote: > > Hum...the older PWS had adaptec controllers...hence no srm. > > What does what controller a PWS has have anything to do with the > existence of SRM? You have SRM, it just may not be the active firmware. > But you do have it. the adaptec 29xx is supported in the 5.8 firmware releases which do not contain AlphaBios code. The freed space was used to add the adaptec and some code for large capacity disk's, but only on selected "DS/ES" systems not the PWSXXX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 15 18:30:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from switch2.switchpwr.com (switch1.switchpwr.com [12.14.48.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3199C37B42C for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 18:30:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from melk@switchpwr.com) Received: from switchpwr.com (switch4.switchpwr.com [12.14.48.22]) by switch2.switchpwr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4G1KkD25872 for ; Tue, 15 May 2001 21:20:50 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B01D754.3194829A@switchpwr.com> Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 01:26:44 +0000 From: mel kravitz Organization: switching power inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; NetBSD 1.5V alpha) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: 500a/au Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Download the manual which is on-line for the 600a/au (pdf file 230+ pages ), this is a good reference -clearly describes product (433/500/600a/au) shipped thru-july 1997, as well as all the SRM commands, no USB since bus did not exist at that time. -mel ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/products/workstations/aausetinstal.pdf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 16 0:24:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38A2D37B424 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 00:24:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f4G7O8U17492; Wed, 16 May 2001 00:24:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 00:24:07 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: "M. Osten" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 500au Message-ID: <20010516002407.A17402@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010515153310.A12497@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from kulua@reefedge.com on Tue, May 15, 2001 at 07:01:41PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 07:01:41PM -0500, M. Osten wrote: > > On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 03:15:45PM -0500, M. Osten wrote: > > > Hum...the older PWS had adaptec controllers...hence no srm. > > > > What does what controller a PWS has have anything to do with the > > existence of SRM? You have SRM, it just may not be the active firmware. > > But you do have it. > > the adaptec 29xx is supported in the 5.8 firmware releases which > do not contain AlphaBios code. The freed space was used to add the adaptec > and some code for large capacity disk's, but only on selected "DS/ES" > systems not the PWSXXX We are discussing the PWS here, I know other modules now have Adaptec support in SRM. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 16 2: 1:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from maiatech.com (maiatech.com [204.246.250.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DE8737B423 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 02:01:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@code-fu.com) Received: from TECHY07.code-fu.com (hqbusi04-gw.pipex.net [158.43.125.190]) by maiatech.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4G8xCP18441 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 04:59:13 -0400 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010516095407.00a6dd48@www.maiatech.com> X-Sender: msmith@www.maiatech.com (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 10:00:54 +0100 To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Michael A. Smith" Subject: Re: 500a/au In-Reply-To: <3B01D754.3194829A@switchpwr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 01:26 2001-05-16 +0000, mel kravitz wrote: >Download the manual which is on-line for the 600a/au (pdf file 230+ >pages ), this is a good reference -clearly describes product >(433/500/600a/au) shipped thru-july 1997, as well as all the SRM >commands, no USB since bus did not exist at that time. >ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/products/workstations/aausetinstal.pdf From the same site, here's the manual I have: ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/products/workstations/combomtr.pdf On pages 2-9 to 2-12 they have diagrams and legends for the motherboard and riser card. The "au" series riser cards have one IDE connector (CD-ROM connector), the "a" series have two (primary & secondary IDE). I'm sure there are zillions of different setups (different combos of riser cards, USB/no USB, SCSI cards and graphics cards) that went out to fulfill different contracts. These were pricey enough when they were still being sold that someone buying a bunch of them (e.g. govt or big business) could specify exactly what they wanted. Anyhoo, I love mine!! -- "When a man is tired of London he is tired of life; for there is in London all that life can afford." -- Samuel Johnson -- Michael A. Smith To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 16 5:41:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B1A637B422 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 05:41:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4GCfbm07702; Wed, 16 May 2001 14:41:37 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D084A18CE8; Wed, 16 May 2001 14:41:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 926DA15905; Wed, 16 May 2001 14:41:36 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 14:41:36 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: "Michael A. Smith" Cc: Subject: Re: 500a/au In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010516095407.00a6dd48@www.maiatech.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyway in the file HARDWARE.TXT in the FreeBSD ftp site there is written that the thing which make difference in recognizing a Miata MX5 against a Miata GL is that the last one has 2 USB ports. But is it really correct ?? Rick On Wed, 16 May 2001, Michael A. Smith wrote: > Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 10:00:54 +0100 > From: Michael A. Smith > To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: 500a/au > > At 01:26 2001-05-16 +0000, mel kravitz wrote: > >Download the manual which is on-line for the 600a/au (pdf file 230+ > >pages ), this is a good reference -clearly describes product > >(433/500/600a/au) shipped thru-july 1997, as well as all the SRM > >commands, no USB since bus did not exist at that time. > >ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/products/workstations/aausetinstal.pdf > > From the same site, here's the manual I have: > ftp://ftp.compaq.com/pub/products/workstations/combomtr.pdf > > On pages 2-9 to 2-12 they have diagrams and legends for the motherboard and > riser card. The "au" series riser cards have one IDE connector (CD-ROM > connector), the "a" series have two (primary & secondary IDE). > > I'm sure there are zillions of different setups (different combos of riser > cards, USB/no USB, SCSI cards and graphics cards) that went out to fulfill > different contracts. These were pricey enough when they were still being > sold that someone buying a bunch of them (e.g. govt or big business) could > specify exactly what they wanted. > > Anyhoo, I love mine!! > > -- > "When a man is tired of London he is tired of life; for there > is in London all that life can afford." -- Samuel Johnson > -- > Michael A. Smith > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 16 6:50:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0532D37B422 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 06:50:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA17568; Wed, 16 May 2001 09:50:20 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4GDno327305; Wed, 16 May 2001 09:49:50 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15106.34174.166105.432424@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 09:49:50 -0400 (EDT) To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: "Michael A. Smith" , Subject: Re: 500a/au In-Reply-To: References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010516095407.00a6dd48@www.maiatech.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it writes: > > Anyway in the file HARDWARE.TXT in the FreeBSD ftp site there is written > that the thing which make difference in recognizing a Miata MX5 against a > Miata GL is that the last one has 2 USB ports. But is it really correct ?? > > Rick As far as I know, yes, as long as the USB ports are on the MLB. One would think that one could just use the version of the chipset. However, I was told that they couldn't change the version number when they fixed the problems. If they did, they'd be forced to re-certify the platform with Microsoft for use with NT. This was expensive & time consuming, so they avoided it, and now we have this confusing situation. I do know that the MLB was redesigned when they came out with the fixed pyxis (21174) chipset. The MX5 Miatas uses an Intel PCI/ISA bridge, a National PC87303 Super I/O chip and a CMD PCI0646 IDE controller. The newer GL models have a Cypress 82C693 which has the PCI/ISA bridge (function 0), SuperIO (on ISA bus) and IDE controller functionality (functions 1 & 2) in one chip. Additionally, at function 3, it has the USB controller. As to why I'm pretty sure that this is true -- DEC was contractually obligated to supply stable Miatas to us (*) so we got an early engineering sample of the GL MLB. As far as I can tell, both it and the production MLB upgrades we received are identical to the above description. I'm pretty sure the MLB upgrade coincided with the PCI riser upgrade. This upgrade involved integrating the ISP1040 SCSI adapter onto the PCI riser card, as well as upgrading the version of the PCI-PCI bridge. When we received our MLB upgrades, we also received riser upgrades and were told we must upgrade the risers as well. I only bothered if I needed to free up a SCSI adapter, as it was such as a PITA. (the MLB upgrades are trivially easy). BTW, I think this is where the discrepancy in the version of scsi controllers on the "a" and "au" models comes from. Since the 1040 is integrated onto the riser board, there is little point in slapping a 2940 into an a-series GL, so the a-series GLs almost certainly shipped with ISP1040 adapters. Cheers, Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 (*) MX5s aren't stable under heavy PCI load. By heavy PCI load, I mean multiple bus masters on the 64-bit bus which are capable of sustaining over 120MB/sec. I doubt you'll push it this hard. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 16 20:15: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67BDA37B422 for ; Wed, 16 May 2001 20:15:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f4H3EIg15368; Wed, 16 May 2001 20:14:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 20:14:17 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it, "Michael A. Smith" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 500a/au Message-ID: <20010516201417.A15228@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010516095407.00a6dd48@www.maiatech.com> <15106.34174.166105.432424@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15106.34174.166105.432424@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Wed, May 16, 2001 at 09:49:50AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 09:49:50AM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > I do know that the MLB was redesigned when they came out with the > fixed pyxis (21174) chipset. The MX5 Miatas uses an Intel PCI/ISA > bridge, a National PC87303 Super I/O chip and a CMD PCI0646 IDE > controller. > > The newer GL models have a Cypress 82C693 which has the PCI/ISA > bridge (function 0), SuperIO (on ISA bus) and IDE controller Don't forget the version 1.5 MX5's. I'm still having trouble pinning down how to recognize one. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 17 0:11:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp014.mail.yahoo.com (smtp014.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5409D37B422 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 00:11:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nald_s@yahoo.com) Received: from unknown (HELO pikachu) (202.149.129.246) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 May 2001 07:11:49 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <001701c0dea0$eee93b50$180310ac@starko.co.id> From: "ronald" To: Subject: ip adress not shown. Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 14:13:48 +0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 Disposition-Notification-To: "ronald" X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org heloo.. i have been finished installing freebsd on alpha system.. but i have problem for telnet to that system... i've been doing like: -i can ping the system ..and other host can ping to that system too.. -edit login.access tobe '-:telnet:ALL EXCEPT LOCAL' but it did'nt work's.. -when i use 'netstat -nr' the address is not corecctly shown 'ie:121.11.1.4'' but shown in hexadecimal value. mybe someone can help me..? -ron- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 17 6:46:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC31637B422 for ; Thu, 17 May 2001 06:46:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA06661; Thu, 17 May 2001 09:46:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4HDk3L29795; Thu, 17 May 2001 09:46:03 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15107.54811.150993.66236@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 09:46:03 -0400 (EDT) To: "ronald" Cc: Subject: Re: ip adress not shown. In-Reply-To: <001701c0dea0$eee93b50$180310ac@starko.co.id> References: <001701c0dea0$eee93b50$180310ac@starko.co.id> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is probably more appropriate for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org You might want to try reposting there. Cheers, Drew ronald writes: > heloo.. > i have been finished installing freebsd on alpha system.. > but i have problem for telnet to that system... > i've been doing like: > -i can ping the system ..and other host can ping to that system too.. > -edit login.access tobe '-:telnet:ALL EXCEPT LOCAL' > but it did'nt work's.. > -when i use 'netstat -nr' the address is not corecctly shown > 'ie:121.11.1.4'' but shown in hexadecimal value. > mybe someone can help me..? > > -ron- > > > _________________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 18 8:24:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from switch2.switchpwr.com (switch1.switchpwr.com [12.14.48.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BEAA037B422 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 08:24:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from melk@switchpwr.com) Received: from switchpwr.com (switch1.switchpwr.com [12.14.48.19]) by switch2.switchpwr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4IFEfD06313 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 11:14:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B053E23.43E45099@switchpwr.com> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 15:22:11 +0000 From: mel kravitz Organization: switching power inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; NetBSD 1.5U alpha) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: XFree86-4.0.2 on an as1200(533au2)? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone been sucessful running Xfree86-4.0.2 on a multiple pci bus machine? X -scanpci returns 'No pci devices found' hence i can run a vga server only. I should say this is running NetBSD 1.5V, i apologize for this question on this list, but for this machine i think the basic core source is common. (mcpcia_pci.c) -Mel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 18 8:31:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4029637B422 for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 08:31:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA28808; Fri, 18 May 2001 11:31:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4IFUpU44511; Fri, 18 May 2001 11:30:51 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15109.16427.632438.379029@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:30:51 -0400 (EDT) To: mel kravitz Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree86-4.0.2 on an as1200(533au2)? In-Reply-To: <3B053E23.43E45099@switchpwr.com> References: <3B053E23.43E45099@switchpwr.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org mel kravitz writes: > Has anyone been sucessful running Xfree86-4.0.2 on a multiple pci bus > machine? > X -scanpci returns 'No pci devices found' hence i can run a vga server > only. I should say this is running NetBSD 1.5V, i apologize for this > question on this list, but for this machine i think the basic core > source is common. (mcpcia_pci.c) > -Mel I know people have been running XF86 on DS20s, but I'm unsure as to what version. They have multiple PCI hoses, but they use a much newer pci chipset. The NetBSD and the FreeBSD pci implementations actually differ quite a bit. It is quite possible that one will work while the other doesn't on something like this. At any rate, its much more likely the problem lies in the bus-walking code in XF86 rather than in the per-platform chipset support code. If you should happen to try this with FreeBSD, you'll need to put the VGA controller on the lowest numbered (0th) PCI hose if you're running -stable. Good luck! Drew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Andrew Gallatin, Sr Systems Programmer http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin Duke University Email: gallatin@cs.duke.edu Department of Computer Science Phone: (919) 660-6590 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri May 18 11:16:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1357B37B42C for ; Fri, 18 May 2001 11:16:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f4IIDkU12071; Fri, 18 May 2001 11:13:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 18 May 2001 11:13:46 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: mel kravitz , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XFree86-4.0.2 on an as1200(533au2)? Message-ID: <20010518111345.A12053@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3B053E23.43E45099@switchpwr.com> <15109.16427.632438.379029@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15109.16427.632438.379029@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Fri, May 18, 2001 at 11:30:51AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, May 18, 2001 at 11:30:51AM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > I know people have been running XF86 on DS20s, but I'm unsure as to > what version. 3.3.6. I have no need to bleed X besides the blood already dripping out due to -current. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat May 19 10:30:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDC3137B422 for ; Sat, 19 May 2001 10:30:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daemon@mips.inka.de) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 151AYo-00034T-00; Sat, 19 May 2001 19:30:38 +0200 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f4JGili56913 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sat, 19 May 2001 18:44:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: stdio.h breaks ccc Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 16:44:45 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <9e67tt$1ni8$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Revision 1.32 and later of /usr/include/stdio.h breaks compiling with Compaq-CC. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat May 19 12:50:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70EAB37B42C; Sat, 19 May 2001 12:50:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 151CkX-0004wv-00; Sat, 19 May 2001 19:50:53 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f4JJu5w05366; Sat, 19 May 2001 21:56:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 21:56:05 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Andrew Gallatin , Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it, "Michael A. Smith" , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 500a/au Message-ID: <20010519215605.F5197@freebie.demon.nl> References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010516095407.00a6dd48@www.maiatech.com> <15106.34174.166105.432424@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20010516201417.A15228@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010516201417.A15228@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@freebsd.org on Wed, May 16, 2001 at 08:14:17PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 08:14:17PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, May 16, 2001 at 09:49:50AM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > I do know that the MLB was redesigned when they came out with the > > fixed pyxis (21174) chipset. The MX5 Miatas uses an Intel PCI/ISA > > bridge, a National PC87303 Super I/O chip and a CMD PCI0646 IDE > > controller. > > > > The newer GL models have a Cypress 82C693 which has the PCI/ISA > > bridge (function 0), SuperIO (on ISA bus) and IDE controller > > Don't forget the version 1.5 MX5's. I'm still having trouble pinning > down how to recognize one. You are in good company.. :/ -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/alpha http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat May 19 12:56:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F47B37B424 for ; Sat, 19 May 2001 12:56:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 151Cpf-0000Bp-00; Sat, 19 May 2001 19:56:11 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f4JK1N605417; Sat, 19 May 2001 22:01:23 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 22:01:23 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 500au Message-ID: <20010519220123.H5197@freebie.demon.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it on Sun, May 13, 2001 at 05:46:33PM +0200 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 13, 2001 at 05:46:33PM +0200, Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: > > the Digital PErsonal Workstaion 500a or 500au are they both well supported > by FreeBSD anyone here use a 500 a or 500au with FreeBSD ?? > thanks Yes, works fine. I have one here. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/alpha http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat May 19 12:58:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBFAB37B422 for ; Sat, 19 May 2001 12:58:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 151Crf-0000DY-00; Sat, 19 May 2001 19:58:15 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f4JK3SN05427; Sat, 19 May 2001 22:03:28 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 22:03:28 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 500au Message-ID: <20010519220328.I5197@freebie.demon.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it on Mon, May 14, 2001 at 09:42:56AM +0200 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 09:42:56AM +0200, Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: Have you considered reading the HARDWARE.TXT information on Miatas? I *do* write docs for a purpose... not for having these questions repeated over and over on the mailing lists. Wilko > Sorry people I gave a bad information before. > I saw a offer a good one about 500a (NOT 500au) > is the 500a model supported very well ?? > I mean if I have a scsi board adaptec or QLogic PCI boards > will it work with freebsd ?? > I mean is the a model as good as the au models running FreeBSD or might I > have lotsa problems ?? > Can I even use IDE disks ?? > thanks > > Rick > > > > > On Sun, 13 May 2001, M. Osten wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 13 May 2001 12:02:05 -0500 (CDT) > > From: M. Osten > > To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it > > Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: 500au > > > > > > > > > > the Digital PErsonal Workstaion 500a or 500au are they both well supported > > > by FreeBSD anyone here use a 500 a or 500au with FreeBSD ?? > > > thanks > > > > > > Rick > > > > I'm using a 500au. I just got it, and installed freebsd. Everything > > *seems* to be working alright, but I'll know more in a couple of > > days. Mail me off list, and we'll go through it all together :) > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/alpha http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat May 19 12:59:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7781237B422; Sat, 19 May 2001 12:59:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 151Csz-0005EI-00; Sat, 19 May 2001 19:59:37 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f4JK4ng05437; Sat, 19 May 2001 22:04:49 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 22:04:49 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "M. Osten" Cc: "David O'Brien" , "Michael A. Smith" , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 500au Message-ID: <20010519220449.J5197@freebie.demon.nl> References: <20010514124701.A2926@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from kulua@reefedge.com on Tue, May 15, 2001 at 03:15:45PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 03:15:45PM -0500, M. Osten wrote: > > That is NOT true. EVERY `a' model I've seen has a Qlogic 1040 SCSI > > controller in it. I am willing to bet someone replaced it with the > > Adaptec controller you have. The motherboard layouts are the same. What > > do you think is different about them? Or are you comparing the MX5 > > models with the GL models? I do know that the `a' models have ATAPI > > CDROM drives vs. the SCSI ones of the `au' models. I believe there are > > also video differences between the two models. > > > Hum...the older PWS had adaptec controllers...hence no srm. I have a > "au" (shipped with NT) and have a IDE cdrom. Wrong. SRM or not has nothing to do with Adaptecs. Adaptecs were shipped with Miatas intended for WinNT. 'au' is for Unix or VMS, not NT. Read HARDWARE.TXT -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/alpha http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat May 19 13: 1:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0953137B422; Sat, 19 May 2001 13:01:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 151Cuk-0000Ff-00; Sat, 19 May 2001 20:01:26 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f4JK6ce05469; Sat, 19 May 2001 22:06:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 22:06:38 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Andrew Gallatin , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 500au Message-ID: <20010519220638.K5197@freebie.demon.nl> References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010514151609.00a6dc48@www.maiatech.com> <20010514124701.A2926@dragon.nuxi.com> <15104.14347.755427.1449@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20010514132415.A821@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010514132415.A821@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@freebsd.org on Mon, May 14, 2001 at 01:24:15PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 01:24:15PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, May 14, 2001 at 03:54:51PM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > That is NOT true. EVERY `a' model I've seen has a Qlogic 1040 SCSI > > > controller in it. I am willing to bet someone replaced it with the > > > Adaptec controller you have. The motherboard layouts are the same. What > > > > For "MX5" "a" miatas, the orignal equipment SCSI controllers are > > Adaptec. I'll bet that somebody replaced the Adaptecs in your MX5s > > with Qlogic boards before you got them. > ... > > FWIW, our "au" models came with atapi scsi drives. > > (*sigh*) I've heard "authoritatively" from others what I said above. I > am starting to think nobody knows how DEC configured these systems -- or > maybe there was a long list of options that often got chosen. IDE CDROM support has appeared in Tru64 Unix pretty late in the game. So early systems always had SCSI CDROMS. Current systems (like the DS10s I got 2 months ago for example) have IDE CDs. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/alpha http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat May 19 13: 2:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259D337B422; Sat, 19 May 2001 13:02:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 151CwC-0005Hf-00; Sat, 19 May 2001 20:02:56 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f4JK88A05480; Sat, 19 May 2001 22:08:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 22:08:08 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: "David O'Brien" , Andrew Gallatin , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 500au Message-ID: <20010519220808.L5197@freebie.demon.nl> References: <20010514132415.A821@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it on Tue, May 15, 2001 at 09:11:47AM +0200 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, May 15, 2001 at 09:11:47AM +0200, Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: > > Dear friends I think DAvid is right noone really knows at al lthe exact > configuration of these Miatas. > Somene even told me that there were models of MiataGL without the 2 USB > ports. In the DreeBSD HARDWARE.TXT is reported that a MiataGL must have in > the rear 2 USB port but this machine I am about to buy is a MiataGL wiouth > the 2 USB ports... So... how do you know it is a GL? Give me the 54-xxxxx-xx partnumber of the MLB to prove that you have a GL without USB. For now I don't trust that claim for one bit. Wilko -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/alpha http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat May 19 20:19:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 80BFD37B422; Sat, 19 May 2001 20:19:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA17752; Sat, 19 May 2001 23:19:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4K3JHp56371; Sat, 19 May 2001 23:19:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15111.14261.303250.252391@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Sat, 19 May 2001 23:19:17 -0400 (EDT) To: Wilko Bulte Cc: "David O'Brien" , Andrew Gallatin , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 500au In-Reply-To: <20010519220638.K5197@freebie.demon.nl> References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010514151609.00a6dc48@www.maiatech.com> <20010514124701.A2926@dragon.nuxi.com> <15104.14347.755427.1449@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20010514132415.A821@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010519220638.K5197@freebie.demon.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wilko Bulte writes: > IDE CDROM support has appeared in Tru64 Unix pretty late in the game. > So early systems always had SCSI CDROMS. Current systems (like the DS10s Hmm.. I don't think that's true. 4.0C was the HW support release for the first miatas, wasn't it? And I've got this old boot log laying around: <...> Alpha boot: available memory from 0xde4000 to 0x7ffe000 Digital UNIX V4.0C (Rev. 564.32); Wed Mar 26 23:59:36 EST 1997 physical memory = 128.00 megabytes. available memory = 114.17 megabytes. <...> ata0 at pci0 slot 4 ata0: CMD PCI0646 scsi0 at ata0 slot 0 rz0 at scsi0 target 0 lun 0 (LID=0) (TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-5702B 3476) scsi1 at ata0 slot 1 <...> Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat May 19 23:54:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3271737B424; Sat, 19 May 2001 23:54:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 151N6N-00060L-00; Sun, 20 May 2001 06:54:07 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f4K6xLr07868; Sun, 20 May 2001 08:59:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 08:59:21 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: "David O'Brien" , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 500au Message-ID: <20010520085921.B7447@freebie.demon.nl> References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010514151609.00a6dc48@www.maiatech.com> <20010514124701.A2926@dragon.nuxi.com> <15104.14347.755427.1449@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20010514132415.A821@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010519220638.K5197@freebie.demon.nl> <15111.14261.303250.252391@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <15111.14261.303250.252391@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Sat, May 19, 2001 at 11:19:17PM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, May 19, 2001 at 11:19:17PM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Wilko Bulte writes: > > IDE CDROM support has appeared in Tru64 Unix pretty late in the game. > > So early systems always had SCSI CDROMS. Current systems (like the DS10s > > Hmm.. I don't think that's true. 4.0C was the HW support release for OK, let me clarify: 4.0 is new by my standards. I was thinking of << 4.0 ;) Like when it was still called DEC OSF/1. > the first miatas, wasn't it? And I've got this old boot log laying I don't know to be honest when Miata appeared relative to Tru64. The sales docs I have seen always list the 'au' models only for T64. > around: > <...> > Alpha boot: available memory from 0xde4000 to 0x7ffe000 > Digital UNIX V4.0C (Rev. 564.32); Wed Mar 26 23:59:36 EST 1997 > physical memory = 128.00 megabytes. > available memory = 114.17 megabytes. > <...> > ata0 at pci0 slot 4 > ata0: CMD PCI0646 > scsi0 at ata0 slot 0 > rz0 at scsi0 target 0 lun 0 (LID=0) (TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-5702B 3476) > scsi1 at ata0 slot 1 > <...> > > Drew ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/alpha http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message