From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 0:34:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail4.kc.rr.com (fe4.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.163.51]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8166C37B423 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 00:34:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from diskman@kc.rr.com) Received: from zephur ([65.26.10.217]) by mail4.kc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Sun, 27 May 2001 02:34:07 -0500 From: "Will L G" To: Subject: FreeBSD and Alpha PC164SX Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 02:35:43 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org There are no bugs? Thats pretty big talking. I wondered if there were some problems with it. I noticed during the installation it would ask to install and configure it but it wouldn't simply install. I had to install it manually then config. Once config'd the screen is all distorted and what not. Alot of the graphics are simply missing. Didn't have a single problem with it picking up the mouse. I'll just go ahead and swing over to Tru64. It appears to be well supported and there appears to be more software dedicated specifically for it and the alpha. Don't get me wrong, I don't have anything against the FREE movement but I generally have the impression, if its free odds are you don't want it [;-) Tru64 is $75 well invested I feel. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of David O'Brien Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2001 2:48 PM To: Will L G Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Alpha PC164SX On Sat, May 26, 2001 at 02:50:58AM -0700, Will L G wrote: > I was wondering is there some problems with the alpha version of bsd and > Alpha PC164SX models? Zero. I own one of these. > The reason I was asking is, for some reason it will not allow me to > install and configure XF86 even though it is alpha compatible. It comes > back with and error, " VGA16 must be installed to configure". I've > attempted to install it but after numerous failed attempts all I get is > "SVGA is not supported at this time". This appears to be an > error message issued by FreeBSD. No it is a message issued by XF86Setup. Go bug the XFree86 developers -- their XF86Setup program needs the VGA16 server, which does not bulid on *any* Alpha OS. You need to run xf86config to configure the server and then hack the resulting /etc/XF86Config as xf86config does not know about our sysmouse. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 8: 3:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [209.155.56.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC5B337B422; Sun, 27 May 2001 08:03:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (dcs@ppp180-bsace7001.telebrasilia.net.br [200.181.80.180]) by newsguy.com (8.11.0/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f4RF39F01563; Sun, 27 May 2001 08:03:10 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B111787.220345BB@newsguy.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 12:04:39 -0300 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,pt,en-GB,en-US,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@freebsd.org Cc: Matthew Jacob , alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: broken loader? References: <20010526145104.C11876@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien wrote: > > On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 07:54:05PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > At some point after May 3, but probably much more frequently, the alpha boot > > stuff has gotten broken. > > VERY broken. I am trying to back out loader commits to find the > problem.. but thanks to some very poorly tested commits I've wasted 10 > hours trying to get either of a -current PWS or DS20 usable. My guess is that the newly imported FICL 2.05 + the forth stuff we use at boot got too big for the space allocated for the dictionary on the alpha. This happened to me when using my more comprehensive stuff instead of the standard stuff on the i386. Reason why I made commit to remedy this. Other possibilities are: 1) I screwed up merging i386 and alpha sysdep changes. 2) FICL 2.05 has a few bugs. FICL 2.06 is out already fixing these bugs and first time I get I'll merge that. These bugs don't seem to affect i386, but... 3) Maybe there is something eerily wrong with the libstand changes that were made. Very unlikely, though. I wish I could work on locating the problem, but... -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@the.secret.bsdconspiracy.net wow regex humor... I'm a geek To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 8:38:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.interchange.ca (ns.interchange.ca [216.126.79.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A491A37B42C for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 08:38:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@fastmail.ca) Received: by mail.interchange.ca (Fastmailer, from userid 555) id 56EF8215A; Sun, 27 May 2001 11:38:00 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3B111F58.000007.75752@frodo.searchcanada.ca> Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_CF30ASBXFQQMYJ0CCJD0" To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Alpha PC164SX Cc: diskman@kc.rr.com From: "Michael Richards" X-Fastmail-IP: 24.43.130.237 Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 11:38:00 -0400 (EDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------Boundary-00=_CF30ASBXFQQMYJ0CCJD0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I'll just go ahead and swing over to Tru64. It appears to be well > supported and there appears to be more software dedicated > specifically for it and the alpha. Don't get me wrong, I don't > have anything against the FREE movement but I generally have the > impression, if its free odds are you don't want it [;-) Tru64 is > $75 well invested I feel. Tru64 is probably a good idea for an individual who is only interested in _running_ a system, not playing with it. Bear in mind of course this is a personal license. This personal license would cost me $130CAD but a 5 user commercial license for Tru64 would cost me $7800CAD. FreeBSD on the other hand will cost me only some spare time. -Michael _________________________________________________________________ http://fastmail.ca/ - Fast Free Web Email for Canadians --------------Boundary-00=_CF30ASBXFQQMYJ0CCJD0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 9: 8:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from VL-MS-MR003.sc1.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5335037B424 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 09:08:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leclercn@videotron.ca) Received: from atom.quanta.ca ([24.201.45.238]) by VL-MS-MR003.sc1.videotron.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GE04U904.LSG; Sun, 27 May 2001 12:08:33 -0400 Received: from videotron.ca ([192.168.56.40]) by atom.quanta.ca (8.12.0.Beta7/8.12.0.Beta7) with ESMTP id f4RG8cUv000907; Sun, 27 May 2001 12:08:38 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B112686.60809@videotron.ca> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 12:08:38 -0400 From: Normand Leclerc User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; m18) Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael Richards Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, diskman@kc.rr.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Alpha PC164SX References: <3B111F58.000007.75752@frodo.searchcanada.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sorry to bug in, I was told by customer service of Tru64 that 164sx isn't supported... True or not? I don't know.... Normand Leclerc leclercn@videotron.ca Michael Richards wrote: >> I'll just go ahead and swing over to Tru64. It appears to be well >> supported and there appears to be more software dedicated >> specifically for it and the alpha. Don't get me wrong, I don't >> have anything against the FREE movement but I generally have the >> impression, if its free odds are you don't want it [;-) Tru64 is >> $75 well invested I feel. > > > Tru64 is probably a good idea for an individual who is only > interested in _running_ a system, not playing with it. Bear in mind > of course this is a personal license. This personal license would > cost me $130CAD but a 5 user commercial license for Tru64 would cost > me $7800CAD. FreeBSD on the other hand will cost me only some spare > time. > > -Michael > _________________________________________________________________ > http://fastmail.ca/ - Fast Free Web Email for Canadians To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 9:13:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.interchange.ca (ns.interchange.ca [216.126.79.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D962C37B422 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 09:13:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@fastmail.ca) Received: by mail.interchange.ca (Fastmailer, from userid 555) id 573F4209F; Sun, 27 May 2001 12:12:25 -0400 (EDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <3B112769.000095.09275@frodo.searchcanada.ca> Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="------------Boundary-00=_P050KMH66ERNTT4D7TH0" To: leclercn@videotron.ca Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Alpha PC164SX Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, diskman@kc.rr.com From: "Michael Richards" X-Fastmail-IP: 24.43.130.237 Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 12:12:25 -0400 (EDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------Boundary-00=_P050KMH66ERNTT4D7TH0 Content-Type: Text/Plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > I was told by customer service of Tru64 that 164sx isn't > supported... True or not? I don't know.... Hrm, didn't know that there was an alpha that they didn't support. I guess if it was intended to be an NT only machine... We have an AS1200 so it doesn't really make a difference. Problem was, the license would cost us more than we paid for the machine. -Michael _________________________________________________________________ http://fastmail.ca/ - Fast Free Web Email for Canadians --------------Boundary-00=_P050KMH66ERNTT4D7TH0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 9:35:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF41A37B423; Sun, 27 May 2001 09:35:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA18672; Sun, 27 May 2001 12:35:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4RGZCq30974; Sun, 27 May 2001 12:35:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15121.11456.143667.486928@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 12:35:12 -0400 (EDT) To: John Baldwin Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: loader broken In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Baldwin writes: > Looks like the loader is hosed: > > Loading /boot/loader > Console: SRM firmware console > VMS PAL rev: 0x1000000010114 > OSF PAL rev: 0x1000000020116 > Switch to OSF PAL code succeeded. > > FreeBSD/alpha SRM disk boot, Revision 1.1 > (jhb@baz.osd.bsdi.com, Fri May 25 16:22:52 PDT 2001) > Memory: 262144 k > \ > halted CPU 0 > > halt code = 2 > kernel stack not valid halt > PC = 200000000 > boot failure > >>> e ra > gpr: 1A ( R26) FFFFFC00005A21B4 > > Hmm. Crap would be a good term here I think. loader.old doesn't work either. > It seems to die while loading the kernel. I wonder if my kernel is too big and > is now triggering a bug in the loader? This is a major PITA now. :( > > For loader.old the RA is 0x0000000020025F18 > > Hmm, I seem to be rather screwed now until I can take this drive out and move > it to another system I suppose. :( > Since loader.old is screwed too, I'd guess the culprit is the extra allocation in src/sys/boot/forth/loader.4th rev 1.20 I just tried to start tracking this down, but my UP1000 test machine seems to still boot with the new loader. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 9:48:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D883237B422 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 09:48:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 1543i5-0001Bt-00; Sun, 27 May 2001 16:48:10 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f4RGrik01368; Sun, 27 May 2001 18:53:44 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 18:53:44 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Normand Leclerc Cc: Michael Richards , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org, diskman@kc.rr.com Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Alpha PC164SX Message-ID: <20010527185344.A1354@freebie.demon.nl> References: <3B111F58.000007.75752@frodo.searchcanada.ca> <3B112686.60809@videotron.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <3B112686.60809@videotron.ca>; from leclercn@videotron.ca on Sun, May 27, 2001 at 12:08:38PM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 12:08:38PM -0400, Normand Leclerc wrote: > Sorry to bug in, > > I was told by customer service of Tru64 that 164sx isn't > supported... True or not? I don't know.... You would have to find the SPD (Software Product Description) for the T64 version you want to run. They are out there on the Compaq web (don't have a pointer handy unfortunately) Wilko -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/alpha http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 10: 2:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED64637B53A; Sun, 27 May 2001 10:02:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA18815; Sun, 27 May 2001 13:02:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4RH1k331032; Sun, 27 May 2001 13:01:46 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15121.13050.442921.467470@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 13:01:46 -0400 (EDT) To: John Baldwin Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: loader broken In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'd suggest anybody in a position to debug this apply the following patch to main.c that I got from DFR a few months back. It sets up a trap handler which halts the machine. You'll need to grab the SP from the SRM console & manually grovel through it for PS, PC, GP, A0, A1, A2. Eg: >>>e sp gpr: 1E ( R30) 0000000020045D30 You'd then do: >>> e -n 6 20045d30 to get PS, PC, GP, A0, A1, A2 Drew Index: alpha/common/main.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/boot/alpha/common/main.c,v retrieving revision 1.13 diff -u -r1.13 main.c --- alpha/common/main.c 2000/10/25 23:36:01 1.13 +++ alpha/common/main.c 2000/10/26 23:13:07 @@ -108,6 +108,24 @@ } } +static void +entMM(u_int64_t a0, u_int64_t a1, u_int64_t a2) +{ + alpha_pal_halt(); +} + +static void +setup_kgp() +{ + register u_int64_t gp __asm__("$29"); + register u_int64_t a0 __asm__("$16") = gp; + __asm__ __volatile__ ( + "call_pal 0x37 #PAL_OSF1_wrkgp" + : "=r" (a0) + : "0" (a0) + : "$1", "$22", "$23", "$24", "$25"); +} + int main(void) { @@ -140,6 +158,10 @@ /* switch to OSF pal code. */ OSFpal(); + + setup_kgp(); + alpha_pal_wrent(entMM, ALPHA_KENTRY_MM); + /* * Initialise the block cache To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 10:11:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp10.xs4all.nl (smtp10.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 676CE37B422 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 10:11:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from martijn.pronk@xs4all.nl) Received: from webmail1.xs4all.nl (webmail1.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.31]) by smtp10.xs4all.nl (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4RHBWl01925; Sun, 27 May 2001 19:11:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: by webmail1.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA03764; Sun, 27 May 2001 19:11:32 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 19:11:32 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200105271711.TAA03764@webmail1.xs4all.nl> X-Authentication-Warning: webmail1.xs4all.nl: mpkisbkl set sender to martijn.pronk@xs4all.nl using -f From: Martijn Pronk To: Wilko Bulte Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010526100031.D14953@freebie.demon.nl> In-Reply-To: <20010526100031.D14953@freebie.demon.nl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: IMP/PHP3 Imap webMail Program 2.0.0-xs4all Subject: Re: HEADS UP: loader broken Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All, Quoting Wilko Bulte : > On Fri, May 25, 2001 at 04:37:19PM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: > > Ouch... thank you, I just read this 30 secs before I planned to > installworld > my PWS600au > Well, I should have read my mail before rebooting my Alpha box... So now i'm stuck with a not booting Alpha, is there anyting I can do to get it to boot again? (Apart from reinstalling, that is) Thanks all, Martijn Pronk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 10:45:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from femail19.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail19.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C1837B423 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 10:45:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from miklic@home.com) Received: from c109118a3 ([24.10.140.87]) by femail19.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010527174551.QPK27660.femail19.sdc1.sfba.home.com@c109118a3> for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 10:45:51 -0700 Message-ID: <001101c0e6d5$5b0683b0$6401a8c0@c109118a3> From: "Andrew M. Miklic" To: Subject: Boot-loader broken for AlphaStation 200's? Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 10:49:19 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org All, I cvsup'ed from -CURRENT yesterday and did a "make world," and while it completed without error, when I tried to reboot, I get: halt code = 2 kernel stack not valid PC = 14e4 boot failure This is coming from the boot-loader, though--I never get a chance to load a kernel...is something broken in the boot-loader for AlphaStation 200's? Thanks, Andrew Miklic To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 10:54:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4920D37B422 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 10:54:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (mjacob@beppo [192.67.166.79]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4RHsXg13646; Sun, 27 May 2001 10:54:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 10:54:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "Andrew M. Miklic" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Boot-loader broken for AlphaStation 200's? In-Reply-To: <001101c0e6d5$5b0683b0$6401a8c0@c109118a3> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, look at the archives, this is broken now. On Sun, 27 May 2001, Andrew M. Miklic wrote: > All, > > I cvsup'ed from -CURRENT yesterday and did a "make world," and while it > completed without error, when I tried to reboot, I get: > > halt code = 2 > kernel stack not valid > PC = 14e4 > boot failure > > This is coming from the boot-loader, though--I never get a chance to > load a kernel...is something broken in the boot-loader for AlphaStation > 200's? > > Thanks, > Andrew Miklic > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 12:19:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8A6437B422 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 12:19:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo.feral.com [192.67.166.71]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4RJJAg13824; Sun, 27 May 2001 12:19:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 12:19:10 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: HEADS UP: loader broken In-Reply-To: <15121.13050.442921.467470@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Working (May 3) boot modules can be found in http://people.freebsd.org/~mjacob/axp_boot_modules.tgz To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 12:30:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF8937B424 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 12:30:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 1546F8-000MJy-00; Sun, 27 May 2001 19:30:26 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f4RJa1j04804; Sun, 27 May 2001 21:36:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 21:36:01 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Andrew M. Miklic" Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Boot-loader broken for AlphaStation 200's? Message-ID: <20010527213601.A1688@freebie.demon.nl> References: <001101c0e6d5$5b0683b0$6401a8c0@c109118a3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <001101c0e6d5$5b0683b0$6401a8c0@c109118a3>; from miklic@home.com on Sun, May 27, 2001 at 10:49:19AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 10:49:19AM -0700, Andrew M. Miklic wrote: When you run -current you are supposed to subscribe to the freebsd-current mailing list. This particular problem is under discussion for a few days already. There is no fix yet. Wilko > > I cvsup'ed from -CURRENT yesterday and did a "make world," and while it > completed without error, when I tried to reboot, I get: > > halt code = 2 > kernel stack not valid > PC = 14e4 > boot failure > > This is coming from the boot-loader, though--I never get a chance to > load a kernel...is something broken in the boot-loader for AlphaStation > 200's? > > Thanks, > Andrew Miklic > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/alpha http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 13:52:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85A8F37B423 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 13:52:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo.feral.com [192.67.166.71]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4RKqUg14022; Sun, 27 May 2001 13:52:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 13:52:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Peter Wemm Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: broken loader? In-Reply-To: <20010526233932.9C78B380E@overcee.netplex.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Did we ever resolve the memory issue in boot1/loader? ie: the one where we > only have 256k for the boot1+stack+loader workspace to live in? I wonder if This was fixed by Doug last October. The function extend_heap is called by boot1 as part of early startup. This gives one 512KB of heap. However, the stack is still 12KB for the loader- which probably isn't enough. I fooled around with trying to put the stack at the end of the heap some months back, but with no success. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 15:24:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from santa.kortis.com (santa.kortis.com [194.14.27.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A518D37B423 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 15:24:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sanamon@kortis.com) Received: from localhost (sanamon@localhost) by santa.kortis.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with SMTP id AAA24518 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 00:44:33 +0200 Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 00:44:33 +0200 (CEST) From: Jonas Sanamon To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Interrupt problems with Multia and 2nd NIC Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I'm trying to set up a 2nd NIC in my multia, as to make it a firewall. But for all the NICs i've tried the same thing happen; it detects the built-in DE21040 NIC, as well as NIC #2 but fails for NIC #2 with the error "could not map interrupt" From dmesg: ------------------------------------ FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #0: Sun Apr 22 01:05:25 GMT 2001 root@jkh101.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC DEC AXPpci (PCI ISA), 167MHz 8192 byte page size, 1 processor. CPU: LCA Family major=4 minor=2 OSF PAL rev: 0x1000000020123 real memory = 81461248 (79552K bytes) avail memory = 72450048 (70752K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc0000772000. md0: Malloc disk dec_axppci_33_intr_map: bad interrupt pin 255 pci0: on pcib0 pci0: (vendor=0x0003, dev=0x0000) at 0.0 pci0: (vendor=0x0003, dev=0x0000) at 1.0 pci0: (vendor=0x0003, dev=0x0000) at 2.0 pci0: (vendor=0x0003, dev=0x0000) at 3.0 pci0: (vendor=0x0003, dev=0x0000) at 4.0 pci0: (vendor=0x0003, dev=0x0000) at 5.0 sym0: <810> port 0x10000-0x100ff mem 0x81000000-0x810000ff irq 11 at device 6.0 on pci0 sym0: No NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-10, SE, parity checking sym0: interrupting at ISA irq 11 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 de0: port 0x10180-0x101ff mem 0x81000180-0x810001ff irq 15 at device 8.0 on pci0 de0: interrupting at ISA irq 15 de0: DEC 21040 [10Mb/s] pass 2.3 de0: address 08:00:2b:e4:dd:0d pci0: (vendor=0x0000, dev=0x0000) at 9.0 pci0: (vendor=0x0000, dev=0x0000) at 10.0 pci0: (vendor=0x1011, dev=0x0004) at 11.0 irq 10 xl0: <3Com 3c905B-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0x10100-0x1017f mem 0x81000100-0x81 00017f irq 15 at device 12.0 on pci0 xl0: couldn't map interrupt device_probe_and_attach: xl0 attach returned 6 ---------------------------------- The same thing has happened with a Dlink DE530-TX (via-rhine) and Kingston (rtl8139) I've searched the web and the mailing list archives, but haven't been able to find anything to help me with this problem. Any ideas ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 15:41:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D29DB37B423 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 15:41:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo.feral.com [192.67.166.71]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4RMfDg14206; Sun, 27 May 2001 15:41:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 15:41:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Latest on ' HEADS UP: loader broken' In-Reply-To: <15121.11456.143667.486928@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Your surmise about loader.4th is correct, I believe. The alpha's boot1/loader from after your commits seems to boot my PC164 just fine with the older loader.4th, but chokes on the new one. The relevant diffs in loader.4th are: -------- 49a50,52 > > 256 dictthreshold ! \ 256 cells minimum free space > 2048 dictincrease ! \ 2048 additional cells each time -------- Can you say what additional memory load for this, and in whay area, this should be? If it's stack, then we're probably screwed at the moment. If it's heap storage, that's probably fairly easy to fix (although I'm kind of *appalled* that we'd be using > 512KB of heap for the loader). -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 16:25:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from b0rked.org (ayanami.b0rked.org [64.81.180.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C3F1637B42C for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 16:25:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nick@b0rked.org) Received: (qmail 80059 invoked by uid 1001); 27 May 2001 23:19:33 -0000 Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 16:19:33 -0700 From: Nick Barkas To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: problems booting 4.3-RELEASE on 164LX Message-ID: <20010527161933.C79954@b0rked.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Forgive me if this has been addressed before, but I'm new to this list (and new to dealing with alphas). I recently installed 4.3-RELEASE on an 164LX 533 MHz Alpha machine (can't remember the exact number of the CPU) with a Seagate ST39102LW SCSI drive holding the root filesystem. The installation went through without any problems (booted from floppies and did an ftp install), but after the system is installed it simply will not boot. I specified: boot dka0 (the device name for my Seagate drive) From the SRM console, and I get the following output: (boot dka0.0.0.9.0 -flags 0) block 0 of dka0.0.0.9.0 is a valid boot block reading 15 blocks from dka0.0.0.9.0 bootstrap code read in base = 200000, image_start = 0, image_bytes = 1e00 initializing HWRPB at 2000 initializing page table at 3ffee000 initializing machine state setting affinity to the primary CPU jumping to bootstrap code Loading /boot/loader and from there the system hangs for several minutes. I hear disk activity, but I do not get anything back on the console for several minutes. Eventually, this is spit out on my screen: I/O request to dka0.0.0.9.0 is invanlid (check type, offset, and size) halted CPU 0 halt code = 2 kernel stack not valid halt PC = af0000000848bf24 >>> Right back to the start. This error looks to me like a possible disk geometry problem, but I had no problems with partitioning that drive and I know it funcitoned without any issues in other machines running different OS'. Also, I'm uncertain if its possible to specify disk geometry within the alpha SRM console. I also tried specifying the location of the kernel and some flags for it from the SRM console like so: boot dka0 -file kernel -flags s and had the same issues. If anyone has any ideas on a fix (such as possibly a way to reinstall loader, fix the drive geometry, or boot FreeBSD from a floppy I'd greatly appreciate the assistance. -- Nick Barkas nick@b0rked.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 17: 8:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 664) id BCADD37B422; Sun, 27 May 2001 17:08:10 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 17:08:10 -0700 From: David O'Brien To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: core@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: broken loader? Message-ID: <20010527170810.A91713@hub.freebsd.org> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20010526145104.C11876@dragon.nuxi.com> <3B111787.220345BB@newsguy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B111787.220345BB@newsguy.com>; from dcs@newsguy.com on Sun, May 27, 2001 at 12:04:39PM -0300 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 12:04:39PM -0300, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > My guess is that the newly imported FICL 2.05 + the forth stuff we use > at boot got too big for the space allocated for the dictionary on the > alpha. This happened to me when using my more comprehensive stuff > instead of the standard stuff on the i386. Reason why I made commit to > remedy this. Daniel this is not the first time you've screwed the Alpha users with loader commits/upgrades. Once was forgivable, twice is frankly quite unforgivable. You have once again _wasted_ a significant amount of your fellow developer's time. I want the backing of Core that NO FICL upgrades or major .4th changes can be committed until they have been tested (compiled and booted) on all platforms. I really don't think I would be allowed to upgrade the toolchain if it had only been tested on Alpha and x86. I fail to see why something as important and fundamental as the loader (and harder to replace if you FUBAR it and loader.old) should be any different. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 17:13:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 048BB37B422; Sun, 27 May 2001 17:13:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4S0DAE58169; Sun, 27 May 2001 18:13:10 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200105280013.f4S0DAE58169@harmony.village.org> To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: broken loader? Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , core@FreeBSD.ORG, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 May 2001 17:08:10 PDT." <20010527170810.A91713@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20010527170810.A91713@hub.freebsd.org> <20010526145104.C11876@dragon.nuxi.com> <3B111787.220345BB@newsguy.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 18:13:10 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <20010527170810.A91713@hub.freebsd.org> "David O'Brien" writes: : I want the backing of Core that NO FICL upgrades or major .4th changes : can be committed until they have been tested (compiled and booted) on all : platforms. I really don't think I would be allowed to upgrade the : toolchain if it had only been tested on Alpha and x86. I fail to see why : something as important and fundamental as the loader (and harder to : replace if you FUBAR it and loader.old) should be any different. Recall that there are three supported platforms. pc98's boot sequence is enough different than the IBM AT's that i386 port uses that it too should be tested as well. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 17:17:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEEF937B422; Sun, 27 May 2001 17:17:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo.feral.com [192.67.166.71]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4S0H3g14358; Sun, 27 May 2001 17:17:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 17:17:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Warner Losh Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, "Daniel C. Sobral" , core@FreeBSD.ORG, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: broken loader? In-Reply-To: <200105280013.f4S0DAE58169@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org And don't forget ia64 and the soon to be arriving ppc!!! as well as arm! Wheeeeeeeee! I don't much like what Daniel did with this, but, hey, I suspect he feels bad. This is a *lot* better than somebody I know who has the same name as an early english monarch who also regular porks (err, 'breaks') the alpha port. > In message <20010527170810.A91713@hub.freebsd.org> "David O'Brien" writes: > : I want the backing of Core that NO FICL upgrades or major .4th changes > : can be committed until they have been tested (compiled and booted) on all > : platforms. I really don't think I would be allowed to upgrade the > : toolchain if it had only been tested on Alpha and x86. I fail to see why > : something as important and fundamental as the loader (and harder to > : replace if you FUBAR it and loader.old) should be any different. > > Recall that there are three supported platforms. pc98's boot sequence > is enough different than the IBM AT's that i386 port uses that it too > should be tested as well. > > Warner > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 18:21:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B707F37B423; Sun, 27 May 2001 18:21:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4S1KuO21912; Sun, 27 May 2001 18:20:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: dcs@newsguy.com, core@FreeBSD.ORG, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: broken loader? In-Reply-To: <20010527170810.A91713@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20010526145104.C11876@dragon.nuxi.com> <3B111787.220345BB@newsguy.com> <20010527170810.A91713@hub.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010527182056N.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 18:20:56 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 34 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: "David O'Brien" Subject: Re: broken loader? Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 17:08:10 -0700 > Daniel this is not the first time you've screwed the Alpha users with > loader commits/upgrades. Once was forgivable, twice is frankly quite > unforgivable. You have once again _wasted_ a significant amount of your > fellow developer's time. David, I appreciate the fact that you're frustrated, but it's also been impossible not to notice that a sizable percentage of your communications these days go just _that_ much further in their vitriol than the occasion appears to merit. Yes, Daniel made a mistake on the Alpha platform, a class of mistake which has not exactly been confined to him alone since there are few Alphas around and fewer committers who seem to remember that beast.freebsd.org is available for their use in testing such things. I'm sure we've ALL also wasted one another's time on occasion, but I think that's just part of the quid-pro-quo in this project. This is a slap on the wrist, yes, but not exactly worth firing off request for -core intervention, IMHO and as a "private citizen". As a core member, I'll certainly consider your request along with the other core members and we'll eventually come to something roughly resembling concensus and communicate it back to you. Still, I begin to wonder (again, not as a -core member) whether or not you might be in need of some extracurricular activity which leads you away from the keyboard. Perhaps a vacation is overdue? - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 18:24:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D2A537B422; Sun, 27 May 2001 18:24:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id BA4076ACBC; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:54:14 +0930 (CST) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:54:14 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: David O'Brien Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , alpha@freebsd.org, FreeBSD Core Team Subject: Re: broken loader? Message-ID: <20010528105414.S29739@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <20010526145104.C11876@dragon.nuxi.com> <3B111787.220345BB@newsguy.com> <20010527170810.A91713@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010527170810.A91713@hub.freebsd.org>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Sun, May 27, 2001 at 05:08:10PM -0700 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday, 27 May 2001 at 17:08:10 -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 12:04:39PM -0300, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: >> My guess is that the newly imported FICL 2.05 + the forth stuff we use >> at boot got too big for the space allocated for the dictionary on the >> alpha. This happened to me when using my more comprehensive stuff >> instead of the standard stuff on the i386. Reason why I made commit to >> remedy this. > > Daniel this is not the first time you've screwed the Alpha users with > loader commits/upgrades. Once was forgivable, twice is frankly quite > unforgivable. You have once again _wasted_ a significant amount of your > fellow developer's time. > > I want the backing of Core that NO FICL upgrades or major .4th changes > can be committed until they have been tested (compiled and booted) on all > platforms. I really don't think I would be allowed to upgrade the > toolchain if it had only been tested on Alpha and x86. I fail to see why > something as important and fundamental as the loader (and harder to > replace if you FUBAR it and loader.old) should be any different. Well, you've waved the C word, so this is your confirmation that we've received the message, and that you should get some kind of response within a week. I've assigned the item to Doug Rabson, since he has the best overview of the topics. Having said that, I think this is a more general matter. I think I'm correct in saying that *nobody* has access to all platforms we're currently supporting, and certainly not to all that we want to support Real Soon Now. This kind of breakage could occur almost anywhere, though obviously some areas are more likely than others. We should come up with a strategy for minimizing breakage. Ideas? Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 18:46:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A786637B424 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 18:46:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@[206.40.252.115]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4S1kel42969; Sun, 27 May 2001 18:46:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f4S0U1s45235; Sun, 27 May 2001 17:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 17:30:01 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Will L G Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Alpha PC164SX Message-ID: <20010527173001.B45187@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from diskman@kc.rr.com on Sun, May 27, 2001 at 02:35:43AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 02:35:43AM -0700, Will L G wrote: > There are no bugs? Thats pretty big talking. I wondered if there were some > problems with it. In the context you were asking problems != bugs. All software has bugs. "Problems" when you are talking about installing are things such as "it will not install from CDROM". -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 18:46:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61EAC37B42C; Sun, 27 May 2001 18:46:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@[206.40.252.115]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4S1kfl42972; Sun, 27 May 2001 18:46:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f4S0S1N45222; Sun, 27 May 2001 17:28:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 17:28:00 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: core@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: broken loader? Message-ID: <20010527172800.A45187@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20010526145104.C11876@dragon.nuxi.com> <3B111787.220345BB@newsguy.com> <20010527170810.A91713@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010527170810.A91713@hub.freebsd.org>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Sun, May 27, 2001 at 05:08:10PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 05:08:10PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: I should have first said how much I appreciate Daniel and he is a God send as he took on 4th where no one else would. With out Daniel we would not have any where near as good a loader as we do. He is doing a thankless job. My only qualms are [potentially] dangerous commits that are not tested across all platforms. I know it can slow things down some, but I think a better approach would be to post diffs for an upgrade/overhall to freebsd-alpha, freebsd-ppc, and what ever list would reach freebsd-pc98 users; and ask for people to test it. You would probably have to wait 2-3 weeks for feedback, but considering how fundamental the loader is (and how most of us cannot even read .4th files so debugging by others quite hard), is such a delay really no tolerable. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 19:25:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [209.155.56.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FD1537B423 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 19:25:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (ppp180-bsace7001.telebrasilia.net.br [200.181.80.180]) by newsguy.com (8.11.0/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f4S2NvF02429; Sun, 27 May 2001 19:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B11B706.E8032F96@newsguy.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 23:25:10 -0300 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,pt,en-GB,en-US,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest on ' HEADS UP: loader broken' References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew Jacob wrote: > > Your surmise about loader.4th is correct, I believe. > > The alpha's boot1/loader from after your commits seems to boot my PC164 just > fine with the older loader.4th, but chokes on the new one. > > The relevant diffs in loader.4th are: > -------- > 49a50,52 > > > > 256 dictthreshold ! \ 256 cells minimum free space > > 2048 dictincrease ! \ 2048 additional cells each time > -------- Oh... This is *NOT* what I expected! > Can you say what additional memory load for this, and in whay area, this > should be? If it's stack, then we're probably screwed at the moment. If it's > heap storage, that's probably fairly easy to fix (although I'm kind of > *appalled* that we'd be using > 512KB of heap for the loader). It's allocated from heap. It's a malloc call. I'm not sure what the hell is taking so much space on loader.4th stuff. The initial dictionary size is about 10000*sizeof(void*) (and I note there is a comment to be fixed...). That above increases it by 2048*sizeof(void*) whenever the available space is below 256*sizeof(void*) at the beginning of a new definition. This space does not include the memory used to store the settings read from the loader.conf files. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@the.secret.bsdconspiracy.net wow regex humor... I'm a geek To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 19:29:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [209.155.56.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28D5337B423; Sun, 27 May 2001 19:29:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (ppp180-bsace7001.telebrasilia.net.br [200.181.80.180]) by newsguy.com (8.11.0/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f4S2SrF03124; Sun, 27 May 2001 19:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B11B830.C049533@newsguy.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 23:30:08 -0300 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,pt,en-GB,en-US,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: core@FreeBSD.ORG, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: broken loader? References: <20010526145104.C11876@dragon.nuxi.com> <3B111787.220345BB@newsguy.com> <20010527170810.A91713@hub.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien wrote: > > On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 12:04:39PM -0300, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > > My guess is that the newly imported FICL 2.05 + the forth stuff we use > > at boot got too big for the space allocated for the dictionary on the > > alpha. This happened to me when using my more comprehensive stuff > > instead of the standard stuff on the i386. Reason why I made commit to > > remedy this. > > Daniel this is not the first time you've screwed the Alpha users with > loader commits/upgrades. Once was forgivable, twice is frankly quite > unforgivable. You have once again _wasted_ a significant amount of your > fellow developer's time. Actually, I do not recall having screwed alpha users on any other time. I recall FICL stuff not working on alpha at all at the beginning, because of memory problems, and loader getting screwed on alpha by someone else with a non-ficl related change that also pushed it over the memory limit (though ficl was a suspect at that time, because the bug _manifested_ itself only when it got to ficl). > I want the backing of Core that NO FICL upgrades or major .4th changes > can be committed until they have been tested (compiled and booted) on all > platforms. I really don't think I would be allowed to upgrade the > toolchain if it had only been tested on Alpha and x86. I fail to see why > something as important and fundamental as the loader (and harder to > replace if you FUBAR it and loader.old) should be any different. Whatever. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@the.secret.bsdconspiracy.net wow regex humor... I'm a geek To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 19:33:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from web14405.mail.yahoo.com (web14405.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2021D37B422 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 19:10:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from n19y@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010528021017.82823.qmail@web14405.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [63.203.44.61] by web14405.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 27 May 2001 19:10:17 PDT Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 19:10:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Paul Cooper Subject: bt848 driver on Alpha PWS 500a To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: n19y@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <20010527181349.29039.qmail@web14407.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I am trying to install bt848 PCI driver on an alpha PWS 500a running FreeBSD 4.3. The kernel with the driver compiles fine, but the driver is apparently not working - the frame grabber gives just a blank image. I tried 4 various cards based on bt848, 878 and 848A. I also tried using various calls to the driver from an application program, such as: ioctl(i, MEREORGETGEO, &geo); ioctl(i, BT848_SIGNATURE, &sig); ioctl(i, METEORGINPUT, &dev); etc. They all return errno 25, inappropriate ioctl for the device. Did someone suceeded in geting the driver working on that machine? Do you have any suggestions? Thanks a lot, Paul __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 19:34: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [209.155.56.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0AAE37B423; Sun, 27 May 2001 19:33:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (ppp180-bsace7001.telebrasilia.net.br [200.181.80.180]) by newsguy.com (8.11.0/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f4S2WgF03586; Sun, 27 May 2001 19:32:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B11B915.D4D94EC6@newsguy.com> Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 23:33:57 -0300 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,pt,en-GB,en-US,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, core@FreeBSD.ORG, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: broken loader? References: <20010526145104.C11876@dragon.nuxi.com> <3B111787.220345BB@newsguy.com> <20010527170810.A91713@hub.freebsd.org> <20010527182056N.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > Yes, Daniel made a mistake on the Alpha platform, a class of mistake > which has not exactly been confined to him alone since there are few > Alphas around and fewer committers who seem to remember that > beast.freebsd.org is available for their use in testing such things. > I'm sure we've ALL also wasted one another's time on occasion, but I > think that's just part of the quid-pro-quo in this project. Jordan, I test is FICL stuff runs on beast, but I cannot test if it *boots* on it. This particular error would not get caught except during boot, as it (appears to be) a result of memory shortage for loader on alpha. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@the.secret.bsdconspiracy.net wow regex humor... I'm a geek To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 19:44: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 211D537B627; Sun, 27 May 2001 19:43:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4S2qTA05760; Sun, 27 May 2001 19:52:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200105280252.f4S2qTA05760@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: obrien@freebsd.org Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , core@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: broken loader? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 May 2001 17:08:10 PDT." <20010527170810.A91713@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 19:52:29 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Daniel this is not the first time you've screwed the Alpha users with > loader commits/upgrades. Once was forgivable, twice is frankly quite > unforgivable. You have once again _wasted_ a significant amount of your > fellow developer's time. I will note that none of these fellow developers have actually stood up and participated when Daniel has called for help in testing these changes. You persistently ignore things until they blow up, and then whine when they do, claiming that you've been blindsided. This simply isn't appropriate. > I want the backing of Core that NO FICL upgrades or major .4th changes Core has nothing to do with this. If you want the Alpha tested and supported like the other platforms, you need to make sure that the resources are available; whether this means doing it yourself, or helping Daniel get a machine set up, or finding a volunteer to help him out. Please. Less whining, and more thought behind constructive suggestions. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 19:44:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ED4037B424; Sun, 27 May 2001 19:44:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@[206.40.252.115]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4S2iBl43187; Sun, 27 May 2001 19:44:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f4S2i5N62452; Sun, 27 May 2001 19:44:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 19:44:04 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: Jordan Hubbard , core@FreeBSD.ORG, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: broken loader? Message-ID: <20010527194404.A62361@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010526145104.C11876@dragon.nuxi.com> <3B111787.220345BB@newsguy.com> <20010527170810.A91713@hub.freebsd.org> <20010527182056N.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <3B11B915.D4D94EC6@newsguy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B11B915.D4D94EC6@newsguy.com>; from dcs@newsguy.com on Sun, May 27, 2001 at 11:33:57PM -0300 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 11:33:57PM -0300, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > Jordan, I test is FICL stuff runs on beast, but I cannot test if it > *boots* on it. This particular error would not get caught except during > boot, as it (appears to be) a result of memory shortage for loader on > alpha. That is why you can enlist the help of freebsd-alpha (and soon freebsd-ppc) to help with testing. The loader is something that is hard to deal with if there is a problem with it. Consider if I committed something to the toolchain such that it could no longer compile itself or anything else. Thus I take extra care with commits to it. There is not fix-floppy for the Alpha, and WCCDROM/BSDi/WRS has cut the fixit disc from their product. Due to limitations of the platform one cannot boot into the loader from the install CD and continue the boot from the hard disk. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 19:48:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D2237B422; Sun, 27 May 2001 19:48:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4S2uvA05846; Sun, 27 May 2001 19:56:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200105280256.f4S2uvA05846@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , Jordan Hubbard , core@FreeBSD.ORG, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: broken loader? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 27 May 2001 19:44:04 PDT." <20010527194404.A62361@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 19:56:57 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > There is not fix-floppy for the Alpha, and WCCDROM/BSDi/WRS has cut the > fixit disc from their product. Due to limitations of the platform one > cannot boot into the loader from the install CD and continue the boot > from the hard disk. However, you can boot the loader and kernel from floppy, but mount another disk as root. This is a bit slower, but typically allows you to achieve something similar. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 19:51:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7BC537B43F; Sun, 27 May 2001 19:51:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@[206.40.252.115]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4S2pXl43213; Sun, 27 May 2001 19:51:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f4S2pW762552; Sun, 27 May 2001 19:51:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 19:51:32 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Mike Smith Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , core@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: broken loader? Message-ID: <20010527195132.A62496@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20010527170810.A91713@hub.freebsd.org> <200105280252.f4S2qTA05760@mass.dis.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200105280252.f4S2qTA05760@mass.dis.org>; from msmith@freebsd.org on Sun, May 27, 2001 at 07:52:29PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 07:52:29PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > I will note that none of these fellow developers have actually stood up > and participated when Daniel has called for help in testing these > changes. I fail to see any email in 2001 to freebsd-alpha asking for help in testing a loader/FICL upgrade. I do believe an email to freebsd-alpha saying Here is a patch with the new version of FICL integrated into the loader. I intend to commit this in 2 weeks unless I hear of troubles with it. You have been warned. or Here is a patch that reorganizes the 4th code and/or changes the defaults. I intend to commit this in 2 weeks unless I hear of troubles with it. You have been warned. Would get tested. We know the consequences of not doing so. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 19:58: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A164437B422; Sun, 27 May 2001 19:57:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@[206.40.252.115]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4S2vwl43230; Sun, 27 May 2001 19:57:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f4S2vvQ62674; Sun, 27 May 2001 19:57:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 19:57:57 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Mike Smith Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , core@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: broken loader? Message-ID: <20010527195757.A62635@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20010527170810.A91713@hub.freebsd.org> <200105280252.f4S2qTA05760@mass.dis.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200105280252.f4S2qTA05760@mass.dis.org>; from msmith@freebsd.org on Sun, May 27, 2001 at 07:52:29PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 07:52:29PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > Core has nothing to do with this. If you want the Alpha tested and > supported like the other platforms, you need to make sure that the > resources are available; whether this means doing it yourself, or helping > Daniel get a machine set up, or finding a volunteer to help him out. Earlier this morning I poked Justin Gibbs about the status of the FreeBSD Foundation and its ability to accept donations -- with the intent of seeing if I could get $300 out of the foundation to get DCS an Alpha for testing. I have not heard back from Justin yet. > Please. Less whining, and more thought behind constructive suggestions. I thought getting a commit tested on all platforms *was* a constructive suggestion. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 22:30:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C6E737B422; Sun, 27 May 2001 22:30:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (mjacob@beppo [192.67.166.79]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4S5UUg14720; Sun, 27 May 2001 22:30:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 22:30:30 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Greg Lehey Cc: "David O'Brien" , "Daniel C. Sobral" , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, FreeBSD Core Team Subject: Re: broken loader? In-Reply-To: <20010528105414.S29739@wantadilla.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org A general knowledge of all and sundry to *Ask* for help when the result of what they could do could break an entire platform would be nice. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 22:31:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7186E37B422; Sun, 27 May 2001 22:31:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (mjacob@beppo [192.67.166.79]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4S5Vkg14730; Sun, 27 May 2001 22:31:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 22:31:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Mike Smith Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, "Daniel C. Sobral" , core@FreeBSD.ORG, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: broken loader? In-Reply-To: <200105280252.f4S2qTA05760@mass.dis.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 27 May 2001, Mike Smith wrote: > > Daniel this is not the first time you've screwed the Alpha users with > > loader commits/upgrades. Once was forgivable, twice is frankly quite > > unforgivable. You have once again _wasted_ a significant amount of your > > fellow developer's time. > > I will note that none of these fellow developers have actually stood up > and participated when Daniel has called for help in testing these > changes. You persistently ignore things until they blow up, and then > whine when they do, claiming that you've been blindsided. Where was the mail? I sure didn't see it.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun May 27 22:39:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 686BB37B424 for ; Sun, 27 May 2001 22:39:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (mjacob@beppo [192.67.166.79]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4S5d5g14760; Sun, 27 May 2001 22:39:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Sun, 27 May 2001 22:39:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest on ' HEADS UP: loader broken' In-Reply-To: <3B11B706.E8032F96@newsguy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 27 May 2001, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > Your surmise about loader.4th is correct, I believe. > > > > The alpha's boot1/loader from after your commits seems to boot my PC164 just > > fine with the older loader.4th, but chokes on the new one. > > > > The relevant diffs in loader.4th are: > > -------- > > 49a50,52 > > > > > > 256 dictthreshold ! \ 256 cells minimum free space > > > 2048 dictincrease ! \ 2048 additional cells each time > > -------- > > Oh... This is *NOT* what I expected! > > > Can you say what additional memory load for this, and in whay area, this > > should be? If it's stack, then we're probably screwed at the moment. If it's > > heap storage, that's probably fairly easy to fix (although I'm kind of > > *appalled* that we'd be using > 512KB of heap for the loader). > > It's allocated from heap. It's a malloc call. I'm not sure what the hell > is taking so much space on loader.4th stuff. The initial dictionary size > is about 10000*sizeof(void*) (and I note there is a comment to be > fixed...). That above increases it by 2048*sizeof(void*) whenever the > available space is below 256*sizeof(void*) at the beginning of a new > definition. This space does not include the memory used to store the > settings read from the loader.conf files. > hmm. well, when I get a chance tomorrow, I'll make a larger heap and we'll see. I'm still not convinced it's actually heap. The 12KB stack is way too small- but that may be harder to fix. btw- I share David's frustration, but let's get past all of this and fix the problem. This is, by my recollection, the 2nd time this has happened in relation to a Forth checkin, and I sure didn't see a call for testing to the alias. Still- let's move on. We will desparately need you for the Sparc64 port. So if we grumble, forgive us. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 2:58:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [209.155.56.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5893C37B424; Mon, 28 May 2001 02:58:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (ppp180-bsace7001.telebrasilia.net.br [200.181.80.180]) by newsguy.com (8.11.0/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f4S9vMF55400; Mon, 28 May 2001 02:57:22 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B12214C.93BF5E07@newsguy.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 06:58:37 -0300 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,pt,en-GB,en-US,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: Mike Smith , obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, core@FreeBSD.ORG, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: broken loader? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew Jacob wrote: > > On Sun, 27 May 2001, Mike Smith wrote: > > > > Daniel this is not the first time you've screwed the Alpha users with > > > loader commits/upgrades. Once was forgivable, twice is frankly quite > > > unforgivable. You have once again _wasted_ a significant amount of your > > > fellow developer's time. > > > > I will note that none of these fellow developers have actually stood up > > and participated when Daniel has called for help in testing these > > changes. You persistently ignore things until they blow up, and then > > whine when they do, claiming that you've been blindsided. > > Where was the mail? I sure didn't see it.. Mike probably is refering to the time when FICL wouldn't run on Alpha and I wouldn't find volunteers to test the stuff. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@the.secret.bsdconspiracy.net wow regex humor... I'm a geek To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 7:26:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CE6837B423 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 07:26:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4SEQFm72079 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 16:26:15 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0984F18CE8; Mon, 28 May 2001 16:26:14 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99CA415902 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 16:26:14 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 16:26:13 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: IDE bus on DPW 500a Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello I have some problem with the CD-ROM device. With some CDROMs it works fine with other CD-ROM it has some problem and seems like it cannot mount them. One of these CDs is the FreeBSD CD-ROM. I have eventually this logged in /var/log/messages: May 28 16:22:12 durlindana /kernel: acd0: READ_BIG command timeout - resetting May 28 16:22:12 durlindana /kernel: ata0: resetting devices .. ata0-master: DMA limited to UDMA33, non-ATA66 compliant cable thanks Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 7:50:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C71237B423 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 07:50:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4SEoEm72873 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 16:50:14 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8552418CE8; Mon, 28 May 2001 16:50:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E33515902 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 16:50:13 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 16:50:12 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: XFree-4 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have problems building the XFree port it dies at the end of the make install in this way, anyone was succesfull with it?? even if fixing the memcpy and strlen trivial problem still it does not work. thanks Rick rm -f ../../../../../../../exports/lib/modules/freebsd/libdrm.a + cd ../../../../../../../exports/lib/modules/freebsd + ln -s ../../../../programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bsd/drm/libdrm.a . making all in programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bsd/drm/kernel... make -f Makefile.bsd ===> drm Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bsd/drm/kernel/drm cc -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -I.. -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -I.. -I. -I@ -I/usr/include -mno-fp-regs -Wa,-mev56 -c auth.c In file included from @/sys/systm.h:46, from ../drmP.h:41, from auth.c:33: machine/cpufunc.h: In function `invlpg': machine/cpufunc.h:270: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size machine/cpufunc.h: In function `outsb': machine/cpufunc.h:339: warning: asm operand 0 probably doesn't match constraints machine/cpufunc.h: In function `outsw': machine/cpufunc.h:347: warning: asm operand 0 probably doesn't match constraints machine/cpufunc.h: In function `outsl': machine/cpufunc.h:355: warning: asm operand 0 probably doesn't match constraints In file included from ../drmP.h:41, from auth.c:33: @/sys/systm.h: At top level: @/sys/systm.h:143: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' In file included from @/sys/systm.h:179, from ../drmP.h:41, from auth.c:33: @/sys/libkern.h:87: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strlen' In file included from auth.c:33: ../drmP.h: In function `test_and_set_bit': ../drmP.h:80: warning: implicit declaration of function `splhigh' ../drmP.h:84: warning: implicit declaration of function `splx' auth.c: In function `drm_find_file': auth.c:46: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size auth.c:54: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size auth.c: In function `drm_add_magic': auth.c:73: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size auth.c:81: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size auth.c: In function `drm_remove_magic': auth.c:95: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size auth.c:107: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size auth.c:111: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size {standard input}: Assembler messages: {standard input}:35: Error: Bad expression {standard input}:35: Error: syntax error {standard input}:61: Error: Bad expression {standard input}:61: Error: syntax error {standard input}:125: Error: Bad expression {standard input}:125: Error: syntax error {standard input}:148: Error: Bad expression {standard input}:148: Error: syntax error {standard input}:200: Error: Bad expression {standard input}:200: Error: syntax error {standard input}:212: Error: Bad expression {standard input}:212: Error: syntax error {standard input}:253: Error: Bad expression {standard input}:253: Error: syntax error *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bsd/drm/kernel/drm. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bsd/drm/kernel. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bsd/drm/kernel. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bsd/drm. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 8:33:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50CB637B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 08:33:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4SFXtm74103 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:33:55 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4057018CE8; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:33:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB0415902 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:33:53 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 17:33:53 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: accelerated server on Miata Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello! I have this card from AccelGRaphics, it is a 3D Labs... pci0: <3D Labs Delta graphics accelerator> at 12.1 irq 8 pci0: <3D Labs 500TX graphics accelerator> at 12.2 irq 8 Seems like it is not supported by XFree86 3.3.6 and I am not able to build 4.0.3 ... anyone have experience with this card ?? Ony my Miata it is plugged in the 64 bit PCI slot thanks Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 9:35:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail3.kc.rr.com (fe3.rdc-kc.rr.com [24.94.163.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 172F237B42C for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 09:35:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from diskman@kc.rr.com) Received: from zephur ([65.26.10.217]) by mail3.kc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Mon, 28 May 2001 11:35:23 -0500 From: "Will L G" To: Subject: Similar problem with XFree86 Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 11:37:03 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org They told me 'not to bug them' but to take it to www.xfree86.org or some mumbo jumbo... My particular problem had to do with VGA16 not being supported but they told me it had to do with my mouse [;-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 10:11:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D07F437B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:11:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (mjacob@beppo [192.67.166.79]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4SHBlg16179; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:11:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:11:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest on ' HEADS UP: loader broken' In-Reply-To: <3B11B706.E8032F96@newsguy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > Your surmise about loader.4th is correct, I believe. > > > > The alpha's boot1/loader from after your commits seems to boot my PC164 just > > fine with the older loader.4th, but chokes on the new one. > > > > The relevant diffs in loader.4th are: > > -------- > > 49a50,52 > > > > > > 256 dictthreshold ! \ 256 cells minimum free space > > > 2048 dictincrease ! \ 2048 additional cells each time > > -------- > > Oh... This is *NOT* what I expected! > Well, this is now more interesting. I gave the loader half again as much heap space *and* doubled the stack But still, the two dict lines below cause the system to die in the loader with a bad kernel stack. I really have no idea what the run time allocation issues might be- but clearly this has got to be something wierd. If I take your calculations below, the intial dictionary will be 80000 bytes. Each additional 2048 cell increase will add 16KB. This shouldn't be a problem, but, well, there it is. There are some warnings compiling on alpha. Maybe you could look at them and see where this might contribute to the problem? -matt ===> ficl cc -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mno-fp-regs -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/alpha -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/../common -c /usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/dict.c -o dict.o cc -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mno-fp-regs -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/alpha -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/../common -c /usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/ficl.c -o ficl.o cc -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mno-fp-regs -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/alpha -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/../common -c /usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/math64.c -o math64.o cc -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mno-fp-regs -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/alpha -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/../common -c /usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/search.c -o search.o cc -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mno-fp-regs -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/alpha -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/../common -c /usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/stack.c -o stack.o cc -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mno-fp-regs -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/alpha -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/../common -c /usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/tools.c -o tools.o cc -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mno-fp-regs -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/alpha -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/../common -c /usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/prefix.c -o prefix.o /usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/prefix.c: In function `ficlParsePrefix': /usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/prefix.c:102: warning: overflow in implicit constant conversion cc -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mno-fp-regs -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/alpha -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/../common -c /usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/loader.c -o loader.o cc -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mno-fp-regs -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/alpha -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/../common -c /usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/vm.c -o vm.o cc -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mno-fp-regs -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/alpha -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/../common -c /usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/words.c -o words.o /usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/words.c: In function `ficlParseWord': /usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/words.c:1327: warning: overflow in implicit constant conversion /usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/words.c:1343: warning: overflow in implicit constant conversion cc -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mno-fp-regs -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/alpha -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/../common -c /usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/alpha/sysdep.c -o sysdep.o (cd /usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/softwords; cat softcore.fr jhlocal.fr marker.fr freebsd.fr ficllocal.fr ifbrack.fr | awk -f softcore.awk -v datestamp="`LC_ALL=C date`") > softcore.c cc -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mno-fp-regs -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/alpha -I/usr/src/sys/boot/ficl/../common -c softcore.c -o softcore.o building static ficl library ranlib libficl.a .... cc -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -DLOADER_CDROM_SUPPORT -I/usr/src/sys/boot/alpha/cdboot/../../ficl -I/usr/src/sys/boot/alpha/cdboot/../../ficl/alpha -DBOOT_FORTH -mno-fp-regs -I/usr/src/sys/boot/alpha/cdboot/../../common -I/usr/src/sys/boot/alpha/cdboot -I/usr/src/sys/boot/alpha/cdboot/../../.. -I. -DPRIMARY_LOAD_ADDRESS=0x20000000 -DSECONDARY_LOAD_ADDRESS=0x2000c000 -Wall -I/usr/src/sys/boot/alpha/cdboot/../../../../lib/libstand -I/usr/src/sys/boot/alpha/cdboot/.. -c /usr/src/sys/boot/alpha/cdboot/../../common/interp_forth.c /usr/src/sys/boot/alpha/cdboot/../../common/interp_forth.c: In function `bf_init': /usr/src/sys/boot/alpha/cdboot/../../common/interp_forth.c:246: warning: passing arg 1 of `ficlBuild' discards qualifiers from pointer target type Generating linker sets ... -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 10:25: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B112037B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:24:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@[206.40.252.115]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4SHOvl47094; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:24:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f4SHOuc16749; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:24:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:24:56 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Matthew Jacob Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest on ' HEADS UP: loader broken' Message-ID: <20010528102456.A16715@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3B11B706.E8032F96@newsguy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 10:11:46AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 10:11:46AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > The relevant diffs in loader.4th are: > > > -------- > > > 49a50,52 > > > > > > > > 256 dictthreshold ! \ 256 cells minimum free space > > > > 2048 dictincrease ! \ 2048 additional cells each time > > > -------- > > > > Oh... This is *NOT* what I expected! > > Well, this is now more interesting. It would be interesting to see if you could make it 196 dictthreshold and 1536 dictincrease and have it work. In other words, find the maxium values that do work. I did not know what the defaults were, else I would have made my total ugly hack to boot/alpha/common/Makefile.common change the values rather than strip them out. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 10:28:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD59B37B43C for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:28:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@[206.40.252.115]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4SHSTl47146; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:28:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f4SHSTh16781; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:28:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:28:29 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: freebsd-alpha@freeBSD.org Subject: Re: accelerated server on Miata Message-ID: <20010528102829.C16715@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freeBSD.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 05:33:53PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 05:33:53PM +0200, Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: > Seems like it is not supported by XFree86 3.3.6 > and I am not able to build 4.0.3 Weird, it build for the 4.3 release. Try the packages from ftp://ftp.freebsd.org//pub/FreeBSD/ports/alpha/packages-4.3-release/x11/ (you'll need to install the compat4x dist if your Alpha is running -current) -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 10:30:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F006237B42C for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:30:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from miklic@home.com) Received: from c109118a3 ([24.10.140.87]) by femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010528173014.UPCC9538.femail2.sdc1.sfba.home.com@c109118a3>; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:30:14 -0700 Message-ID: <001e01c0e79c$57090fe0$6401a8c0@c109118a3> From: "Andrew M. Miklic" To: Cc: "Peter Jeremy" Subject: TGA driver Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:33:42 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org All, Peter Jeremy and I have a "working" TGA driver available against -CURRENT, and we were wondering if anyone would be willing to commit it for us? Currently, text works (colors, too), vty-switching works, X doesn't work, mouse doesn't work, font-loading doesn't work, and screensavers don't work... Thanks, Andrew Miklic To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 10:31: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C31E37B423 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:30:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@[206.40.252.115]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4SHUwl47212; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:30:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f4SHUwv16814; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:30:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:30:58 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Will L G Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Similar problem with XFree86 Message-ID: <20010528103058.D16715@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from diskman@kc.rr.com on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 11:37:03AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 11:37:03AM -0700, Will L G wrote: > They told me 'not to bug them' but to take it to www.xfree86.org or some > mumbo jumbo... My particular problem had to do with VGA16 not being > supported but they told me it had to do with my mouse [;-) Sounds like you did not understand my answer. The "graphical" XFree86 configuration program -- XF86Setup program *requires* the VGA16 server. This server does NOT build on the Alpha. Not just FreeBSD/alpha, but AlphaLinux and Tru86 also. The issue with using the text-only xf86config is that it does not know about moused's sysmouse. Thus you either cannot use moused, or you must hack the /etc/XF86Config file xf86config creates to specify sysmouse. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 10:34:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD38F37B424 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:34:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@[206.40.252.115]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4SHYOl47225; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:34:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f4SHYN816901; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:34:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:34:23 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFree-4 Message-ID: <20010528103423.E16715@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 04:50:12PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 04:50:12PM +0200, Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: > > I have problems building the XFree port PLEASE provide suffient detail. What version of FreeBSD is this on? \begin{rant} WHY do we always have to beg for this detail? Aren't there any professional programmers or sysadmins out there that in their day-job would demand the same supporting details for any problem told to them??? \end{rant} To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 10:37:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D975137B43E for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:37:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@[206.40.252.115]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4SHavl47236; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:36:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f4SHat816948; Mon, 28 May 2001 10:36:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:36:54 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Andrew M. Miklic" Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org, Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: TGA driver Message-ID: <20010528103654.F16715@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <001e01c0e79c$57090fe0$6401a8c0@c109118a3> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001e01c0e79c$57090fe0$6401a8c0@c109118a3>; from miklic@home.com on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 10:33:42AM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 10:33:42AM -0700, Andrew M. Miklic wrote: > Peter Jeremy and I have a "working" TGA driver available > against -CURRENT, and we were wondering if anyone would be willing to commit > it for us? Yes I'll do it today even. Send me a tar ball of it (or point me a URL of exactly what you want committed) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 11:36:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-11.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3C6F37B422; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:36:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 154RsF-0006kS-00; Mon, 28 May 2001 18:36:15 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f4SIfre01042; Mon, 28 May 2001 20:41:53 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 20:41:53 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "David O'Brien" Cc: "Andrew M. Miklic" , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org, Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: TGA driver Message-ID: <20010528204153.I619@freebie.demon.nl> References: <001e01c0e79c$57090fe0$6401a8c0@c109118a3> <20010528103654.F16715@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010528103654.F16715@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@freebsd.org on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 10:36:54AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 10:36:54AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 10:33:42AM -0700, Andrew M. Miklic wrote: > > Peter Jeremy and I have a "working" TGA driver available > > against -CURRENT, and we were wondering if anyone would be willing to commit > > it for us? > > Yes I'll do it today even. Send me a tar ball of it (or point me a URL > of exactly what you want committed) And thanks to all for the hard work. Given some time (and a working -current...) I will put it on my Multia. Wilko -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/alpha http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 11:44:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00D9037B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:44:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA02021; Mon, 28 May 2001 14:44:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4SIhtE34208; Mon, 28 May 2001 14:43:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15122.40043.23892.164757@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 14:43:55 -0400 (EDT) To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest on ' HEADS UP: loader broken' In-Reply-To: References: <3B11B706.E8032F96@newsguy.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew Jacob writes: > > Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > > > Your surmise about loader.4th is correct, I believe. > > > > > > The alpha's boot1/loader from after your commits seems to boot my PC164 just > > > fine with the older loader.4th, but chokes on the new one. > > > > > > The relevant diffs in loader.4th are: > > > -------- > > > 49a50,52 > > > > > > > > 256 dictthreshold ! \ 256 cells minimum free space > > > > 2048 dictincrease ! \ 2048 additional cells each time > > > -------- > > > > Oh... This is *NOT* what I expected! > > > > Well, this is now more interesting. > > I gave the loader half again as much heap space *and* doubled the stack > But still, the two dict lines below cause the system to die in > the loader with a bad kernel stack. A bad KSP in the loader may not mean a stack problem. Unless you're using the patches I mailed yesterday, then there is no entry point for memory management faults. This means that you may overflow the stack by jumping to a non-existant entMM trap handler on a memory management trap and you ma end up faulting again when you get there, etc. Another way to workaround this is to avoid the problem altogether by not running any of the forth nonsense. /boot/loader.rc's which are left over from 4.0-RELEASE saved my ass on both of my -current boxes. set isp_no_fwload=0xff set isp_mem_map=0xff set kern.ipc.nmbclusters=8192 set hw.ata.wc=1 autoboot 3 Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 11:51: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F4BC37B423 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:51:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo.feral.com [192.67.166.71]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4SIp1g19559; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:51:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 11:51:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest on ' HEADS UP: loader broken' In-Reply-To: <15122.40043.23892.164757@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > > > Well, this is now more interesting. > > > > I gave the loader half again as much heap space *and* doubled the stack > > But still, the two dict lines below cause the system to die in > > the loader with a bad kernel stack. > > A bad KSP in the loader may not mean a stack problem. Unless you're > using the patches I mailed yesterday, then there is no entry point for > memory management faults. This means that you may overflow the stack > by jumping to a non-existant entMM trap handler on a memory management > trap and you ma end up faulting again when you get there, etc. Yes, good point. I think I'll try the patches and see what's up. > Another way to workaround this is to avoid the problem altogether by > not running any of the forth nonsense. /boot/loader.rc's which are > left over from 4.0-RELEASE saved my ass on both of my -current boxes. > > set isp_no_fwload=0xff > set isp_mem_map=0xff > set kern.ipc.nmbclusters=8192 > set hw.ata.wc=1 > autoboot 3 Turning on write cacheing isn't a generic workaround. You should also note that isp_no_fwload && isp_mem_map no longer have any meaning for -current because the QLogic driver uses hints now. I'm rather include to think that for the short term, if we can't figure this out right away, we keep David's stripout. But I'm still waiting to hear what Daniel deduces from the build logs for the boot. Then we might see. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 11:51:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F4E637B423; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:51:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4SIpbm78128; Mon, 28 May 2001 20:51:37 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 7CC0318CE8; Mon, 28 May 2001 20:51:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B1115902; Mon, 28 May 2001 20:51:36 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 20:51:35 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Subject: Re: XFree-4 In-Reply-To: <20010528103423.E16715@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sure Igive you the detail FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE, XFree3.3.6 XFree 4.0.3 won't build succesfully thanks Rick On Mon, 28 May 2001, David O'Brien wrote: > Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:34:23 -0700 > From: David O'Brien > To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it > Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: XFree-4 > > On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 04:50:12PM +0200, Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: > > > > I have problems building the XFree port > > PLEASE provide suffient detail. What version of FreeBSD is this on? > > \begin{rant} > > WHY do we always have to beg for this detail? Aren't there any > professional programmers or sysadmins out there that in their day-job > would demand the same supporting details for any problem told to > them??? > > \end{rant} > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 11:55:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post.mail.nl.demon.net (post-10.mail.nl.demon.net [194.159.73.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2639F37B422; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:55:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.demon.nl) Received: from [212.238.54.101] (helo=freebie.demon.nl) by post.mail.nl.demon.net with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 154SAc-00061I-00; Mon, 28 May 2001 18:55:14 +0000 Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.demon.nl (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f4SJ0qU01309; Mon, 28 May 2001 21:00:52 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:00:52 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: "David O'Brien" , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFree-4 Message-ID: <20010528210052.D1187@freebie.demon.nl> References: <20010528103423.E16715@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 08:51:35PM +0200 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 08:51:35PM +0200, Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: > Sure Igive you the detail That is not detailed in any shape or form. > FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE, XFree3.3.6 > XFree 4.0.3 won't build succesfully Where does it fail?? Compile logs/error messages please... W/ > thanks > > Rick > > On Mon, 28 May 2001, David O'Brien wrote: > > > Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:34:23 -0700 > > From: David O'Brien > > To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it > > Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: XFree-4 > > > > On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 04:50:12PM +0200, Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: > > > > > > I have problems building the XFree port > > > > PLEASE provide suffient detail. What version of FreeBSD is this on? > > > > \begin{rant} > > > > WHY do we always have to beg for this detail? Aren't there any > > professional programmers or sysadmins out there that in their day-job > > would demand the same supporting details for any problem told to > > them??? > > > > \end{rant} > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/alpha http://www.freebsd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 11:56:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D17737B423 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:56:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4SIuVm78180 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 20:56:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5C82E18CE8; Mon, 28 May 2001 20:56:31 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2761A15902 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 20:56:31 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 20:56:30 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: tscp MIPS result really weird Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I just run the tscp program taken at http://socsci.colorado.edu/~tarrb/kerrigat/ I run it on my Miata DPW 500a and here is the weird result: Nodes: 550822 Best time: 22900 ms Nodes per second: 24053 (163.5 MIPS) I am very disappointed I Was expecting something like 800 MIPS Do you think the tscp is wrong or is that my system to have problems ?? Could anyone else try tscp on his Alpha machine even if is not Miata ?? thanks a lot friends Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 11:56:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD8CB37B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 11:56:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA17676; Mon, 28 May 2001 14:56:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4SIuHs34238; Mon, 28 May 2001 14:56:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15122.40785.294428.276049@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 14:56:17 -0400 (EDT) To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest on ' HEADS UP: loader broken' In-Reply-To: References: <15122.40043.23892.164757@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew Jacob writes: > Turning on write cacheing isn't a generic workaround. If you're afraid softupdates will melt your disks on -current it is. :-( > You should also note that isp_no_fwload && isp_mem_map no longer have any > meaning for -current because the QLogic driver uses hints now. > The main point is that it does NOT \ Includes additional commands include /boot/loader.4th \ Reads and processes loader.rc start Which means that I was able to survive the forth breakage.. I've spent hours trying to figure out why the loader works for me. Now I've finally figured it out. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 12: 1:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2821C37B42C for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 12:01:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo.feral.com [192.67.166.71]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4SJ1Kg19583; Mon, 28 May 2001 12:01:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 12:01:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest on ' HEADS UP: loader broken' In-Reply-To: <15122.40785.294428.276049@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 28 May 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Matthew Jacob writes: > > Turning on write cacheing isn't a generic workaround. > > If you're afraid softupdates will melt your disks on -current it is. :-( In general, write cacheing to drives is a bad idea w/o: a) UPS on the drives or b) close coordination with the filesystem so that the filesystem knows that a commit to media does not necessarily occur when you say "write this sucker". It would be nice if the filesystem also had knowledge of some kind to ensure on media commits. This has been raised by hordan... > > > You should also note that isp_no_fwload && isp_mem_map no longer have any > > meaning for -current because the QLogic driver uses hints now. > > > > The main point is that it does NOT > > \ Includes additional commands > include /boot/loader.4th > > \ Reads and processes loader.rc > start > > Which means that I was able to survive the forth breakage.. > I've spent hours trying to figure out why the loader works for me. > Now I've finally figured it out. Ah. Yes, well, if you shoot all hoof && mouth disease victims and burn the bodies on the spot, you probably can indeed survive. This is the slightly more drastic but similar workaround as removing these 256 dictthreshold ! \ 256 cells minimum free space 2048 dictincrease ! \ 2048 additional cells each time lines from loader.4th. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 12: 7:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16BD437B423 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 12:07:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA02727; Mon, 28 May 2001 15:07:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4SJ7NH34271; Mon, 28 May 2001 15:07:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15122.41451.496364.702456@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:07:23 -0400 (EDT) To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: Subject: Re: XFree-4 In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It looks like drm contains x86 specific asm's. Try this & tell me if it works. Drew Index: scripts/configure =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/x11/XFree86-4/scripts/configure,v retrieving revision 1.76 diff -u -r1.76 configure --- scripts/configure 2001/04/11 01:03:55 1.76 +++ scripts/configure 2001/05/28 18:58:50 @@ -220,7 +220,7 @@ echo "#define HasPam $answ" >> $F echo "#define InstallXserverSetUID NO " >> $F -if [ $OSVERSION -lt 500013 ]; then +if [ $OSVERSION -lt 500013 -a X${MACHINE} != X"alpha" ]; then echo "#define BuildXF86DRI YES" >> $F echo "#define BuildXF86DRM YES" >> $F fi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 12:13:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C292A37B424 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 12:13:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA10531; Mon, 28 May 2001 15:13:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4SJCxF34377; Mon, 28 May 2001 15:12:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15122.41787.140818.769455@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:12:59 -0400 (EDT) To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it, Subject: Re: XFree-4 In-Reply-To: <15122.41451.496364.702456@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> References: <15122.41451.496364.702456@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nevermind. It still doesn't work. Anybody with more -ports foo than me want to take a shot at this? Drew Andrew Gallatin writes: > > It looks like drm contains x86 specific asm's. > > Try this & tell me if it works. > > Drew > > > > Index: scripts/configure > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/x11/XFree86-4/scripts/configure,v > retrieving revision 1.76 > diff -u -r1.76 configure > --- scripts/configure 2001/04/11 01:03:55 1.76 > +++ scripts/configure 2001/05/28 18:58:50 > @@ -220,7 +220,7 @@ > echo "#define HasPam $answ" >> $F > > echo "#define InstallXserverSetUID NO " >> $F > -if [ $OSVERSION -lt 500013 ]; then > +if [ $OSVERSION -lt 500013 -a X${MACHINE} != X"alpha" ]; then > echo "#define BuildXF86DRI YES" >> $F > echo "#define BuildXF86DRM YES" >> $F > fi > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 12:30: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31ADA37B423 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 12:30:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA23828; Mon, 28 May 2001 15:29:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4SJTLv34420; Mon, 28 May 2001 15:29:21 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15122.42765.985489.423071@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:29:17 -0400 (EDT) To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: Subject: Re: tscp MIPS result really weird In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it writes: > > Hello, I just run the tscp program taken at > > http://socsci.colorado.edu/~tarrb/kerrigat/ > > I run it on my Miata DPW 500a and here is the weird result: > Nodes: 550822 > Best time: 22900 ms > Nodes per second: 24053 (163.5 MIPS) > > I am very disappointed I Was expecting something like 800 MIPS > Do you think the tscp is wrong or is that my system to have problems ?? > Could anyone else try tscp on his Alpha machine even if is not Miata ?? Do you have a bcache? I just ran this thing on a 600MHz 164lx with a 2mb bcache, 4.3-RELEASE: GCC: cc -O3 -funroll-loops -fexpensive-optimizations -fschedule-insns2 *.c -o tsc.gcc *.o -lcompat Nodes: 627028 Best time: 10408 ms Nodes per second: 60244 tscp> Then I compiled it on an osf/1 alpha and ran it on the same box: DECC: cc -tune ev56 -O4 -fast -ifo *.c -o tsc.deccc Nodes: 627028 Best time: 8904 ms Nodes per second: 70420 tscp> Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 13:13:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 536AE37B423 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 13:13:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA10564; Mon, 28 May 2001 16:13:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4SKCmM34503; Mon, 28 May 2001 16:12:48 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15122.45376.304502.55208@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 16:12:48 -0400 (EDT) To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest on ' HEADS UP: loader broken' In-Reply-To: <15122.40785.294428.276049@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> References: <15122.40043.23892.164757@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <15122.40785.294428.276049@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, whatever firmware I'm running on the AS500 has a rather nice feature -- it seems to have a trap handler installed for unaligned access traps. FreeBSD/alpha SRM disk boot, Revision 1.1 (gallatin@thunder.cs.duke.edu, Mon May 28 10:56:51 EDT 2001) Memory: 131072 k \ fatal kernel trap: trap entry = 0x4 (unaligned access fault) a0 = 0x2003d9bc a1 = 0x2d a2 = 0x0 pc = 0x200285c4 ra = 0x200285b8 curproc = 0xfffffe0008577cc0 halted CPU 0 If the PC can be trusted, it is somewhere inside of twoConstParen % nm -n loader.sym <....> 0000000020026540 T ficlCompileSoftCore 0000000020026960 T ficlParseNumber 00000000200276a0 T constantParen 0000000020027720 T twoConstParen 00000000200290c0 T parseStepParen 000000002002ad20 T ficlTick 000000002002f100 T ficlWordClassify <....> (gdb) l *0x200285c4 0x200285c4 is in store (words.c:990). 985 CELL *pCell; 986 #if FICL_ROBUST > 1 987 vmCheckStack(pVM, 2, 0); 988 #endif 989 pCell = (CELL *)stackPopPtr(pVM->pStack); 990 *pCell = stackPop(pVM->pStack); 991 } 992 993 /* 994 ** two-store CORE ( x1 x2 a-addr -- ) Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 13:23: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3700A37B424 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 13:23:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo.feral.com [192.67.166.71]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4SKMxg19797; Mon, 28 May 2001 13:22:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 13:22:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest on ' HEADS UP: loader broken' In-Reply-To: <15122.45376.304502.55208@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ah, yes- you got a lot further than I did- I just exited. This really should be enough for Daniel to figure out. > > Well, whatever firmware I'm running on the AS500 has a rather nice > feature -- it seems to have a trap handler installed for unaligned > access traps. > > FreeBSD/alpha SRM disk boot, Revision 1.1 > (gallatin@thunder.cs.duke.edu, Mon May 28 10:56:51 EDT 2001) > Memory: 131072 k > \ > fatal kernel trap: > > trap entry = 0x4 (unaligned access fault) > a0 = 0x2003d9bc > a1 = 0x2d > a2 = 0x0 > pc = 0x200285c4 > ra = 0x200285b8 > curproc = 0xfffffe0008577cc0 > > halted CPU 0 > > > If the PC can be trusted, it is somewhere inside of twoConstParen > % nm -n loader.sym > <....> > 0000000020026540 T ficlCompileSoftCore > 0000000020026960 T ficlParseNumber > 00000000200276a0 T constantParen > 0000000020027720 T twoConstParen > 00000000200290c0 T parseStepParen > 000000002002ad20 T ficlTick > 000000002002f100 T ficlWordClassify > <....> > > (gdb) l *0x200285c4 > 0x200285c4 is in store (words.c:990). > 985 CELL *pCell; > 986 #if FICL_ROBUST > 1 > 987 vmCheckStack(pVM, 2, 0); > 988 #endif > 989 pCell = (CELL *)stackPopPtr(pVM->pStack); > 990 *pCell = stackPop(pVM->pStack); > 991 } > 992 > 993 /* > 994 ** two-store CORE ( x1 x2 a-addr -- ) > > > > Drew > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 14:20: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62AF137B423 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 14:20:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA04811; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:20:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4SLJUs34616; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:19:30 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15122.49378.194495.46122@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 17:19:30 -0400 (EDT) To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: Subject: Re: XFree-4 In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I take it back, the following patch does work. It just wants to grab the kernel sources for no good reason, even though it isn't building dri. I'll submit it to the $MAINTAINER Drew Index: scripts/configure =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/x11/XFree86-4/scripts/configure,v retrieving revision 1.76 diff -u -r1.76 configure --- scripts/configure 2001/04/11 01:03:55 1.76 +++ scripts/configure 2001/05/28 19:41:52 @@ -220,7 +220,7 @@ echo "#define HasPam $answ" >> $F echo "#define InstallXserverSetUID NO " >> $F -if [ $OSVERSION -lt 500013 ]; then +if [ $OSVERSION -lt 500013 -a X${MACHINE} != X"alpha" ]; then echo "#define BuildXF86DRI YES" >> $F echo "#define BuildXF86DRM YES" >> $F fi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 16: 2:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [209.155.56.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AA0137B42C; Mon, 28 May 2001 16:02:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (ppp039-bsace7002.telebrasilia.net.br [200.181.81.39]) by newsguy.com (8.11.0/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f4SN1gF57322; Mon, 28 May 2001 16:01:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B12D927.C3400E3@newsguy.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 20:03:03 -0300 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,pt,en-GB,en-US,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Matthew Jacob , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest on ' HEADS UP: loader broken' References: <3B11B706.E8032F96@newsguy.com> <20010528102456.A16715@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien wrote: > > On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 10:11:46AM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > The relevant diffs in loader.4th are: > > > > -------- > > > > 49a50,52 > > > > > > > > > > 256 dictthreshold ! \ 256 cells minimum free space > > > > > 2048 dictincrease ! \ 2048 additional cells each time > > > > -------- > > > > > > Oh... This is *NOT* what I expected! > > > > Well, this is now more interesting. > > It would be interesting to see if you could make it 196 dictthreshold and > 1536 dictincrease and have it work. In other words, find the maxium > values that do work. I did not know what the defaults were, else I would > have made my total ugly hack to boot/alpha/common/Makefile.common change > the values rather than strip them out. Default values are 0/0, which deactivates the feature. Alas, decreasing these values, specially the first, can easily _cause_ problems instead of fixing them, but since it supposedly works with 0/0, that wouldn't happen, unless you made dictincrease <= dictthreshold. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@the.secret.bsdconspiracy.net wow regex humor... I'm a geek To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 16:31:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [209.155.56.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5517A37B424 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 16:31:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (ppp039-bsace7002.telebrasilia.net.br [200.181.81.39]) by newsguy.com (8.11.0/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f4SNTRF60785; Mon, 28 May 2001 16:29:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B12DFAB.79245E9F@newsguy.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 20:30:51 -0300 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,pt,en-GB,en-US,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: mjacob@feral.com, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest on ' HEADS UP: loader broken' References: <15122.40043.23892.164757@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <15122.40785.294428.276049@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <15122.45376.304502.55208@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Well, whatever firmware I'm running on the AS500 has a rather nice > feature -- it seems to have a trap handler installed for unaligned > access traps. > > FreeBSD/alpha SRM disk boot, Revision 1.1 > (gallatin@thunder.cs.duke.edu, Mon May 28 10:56:51 EDT 2001) > Memory: 131072 k > \ > fatal kernel trap: > > trap entry = 0x4 (unaligned access fault) > a0 = 0x2003d9bc > a1 = 0x2d > a2 = 0x0 > pc = 0x200285c4 > ra = 0x200285b8 > curproc = 0xfffffe0008577cc0 > > halted CPU 0 > > If the PC can be trusted, it is somewhere inside of twoConstParen > % nm -n loader.sym > <....> > 0000000020026540 T ficlCompileSoftCore > 0000000020026960 T ficlParseNumber > 00000000200276a0 T constantParen > 0000000020027720 T twoConstParen > 00000000200290c0 T parseStepParen > 000000002002ad20 T ficlTick > 000000002002f100 T ficlWordClassify > <....> > > (gdb) l *0x200285c4 > 0x200285c4 is in store (words.c:990). > 985 CELL *pCell; > 986 #if FICL_ROBUST > 1 > 987 vmCheckStack(pVM, 2, 0); > 988 #endif > 989 pCell = (CELL *)stackPopPtr(pVM->pStack); > 990 *pCell = stackPop(pVM->pStack); > 991 } > 992 > 993 /* > 994 ** two-store CORE ( x1 x2 a-addr -- ) The function twoConstParen has nothing to do with it. It's all the static functions in between. :-) Store, on the other hand, looks a natural candidate to me. I have even some evil nasty suspicions... Could you (or any other alpha user) try replacing the two values with 0 and see if the error persist? If so, it's a good thing your alpha is this nice, because it would take me AGES to even begin to suspect it. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@the.secret.bsdconspiracy.net wow regex humor... I'm a geek To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 17: 5: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB1237B423 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:04:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@[206.40.252.115]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4T04xl48498; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:04:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f4T04wn20444; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:04:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 17:04:58 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: Matthew Jacob , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest on ' HEADS UP: loader broken' Message-ID: <20010528170458.A20426@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3B11B706.E8032F96@newsguy.com> <20010528102456.A16715@dragon.nuxi.com> <3B12D927.C3400E3@newsguy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B12D927.C3400E3@newsguy.com>; from dcs@newsguy.com on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 08:03:03PM -0300 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 08:03:03PM -0300, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > > > > > > 256 dictthreshold ! \ 256 cells minimum free space > > > > > > 2048 dictincrease ! \ 2048 additional cells each time > > > > > -------- > Default values are 0/0, which deactivates the feature. > > Alas, decreasing these values, specially the first, can easily _cause_ > problems instead of fixing them, but since it supposedly works with 0/0, > that wouldn't happen, unless you made dictincrease <= dictthreshold. What value pairs < 256/2048 would you suggest we try to find the max usable? Or is it either 0/0 or 256/2048 and nothing else would really work? -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 17:11:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D5C37B424 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:11:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@[206.40.252.115]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4T0BUl48557; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:11:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f4T0BTR20607; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:11:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 17:11:29 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Wilko Bulte Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: TGA driver Message-ID: <20010528171129.E20426@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <001e01c0e79c$57090fe0$6401a8c0@c109118a3> <20010528103654.F16715@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010528204153.I619@freebie.demon.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010528204153.I619@freebie.demon.nl>; from wkb@freebie.demon.nl on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 08:41:53PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 08:41:53PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > (and a working -current...) SURELY you jest. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 17:13:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [209.155.56.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E06D37B423; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:13:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (ppp039-bsace7002.telebrasilia.net.br [200.181.81.39]) by newsguy.com (8.11.0/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f4T0CwF66603; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:13:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B12E9E1.5695323C@newsguy.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:14:25 -0300 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,pt,en-GB,en-US,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Matthew Jacob , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest on ' HEADS UP: loader broken' References: <3B11B706.E8032F96@newsguy.com> <20010528102456.A16715@dragon.nuxi.com> <3B12D927.C3400E3@newsguy.com> <20010528170458.A20426@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien wrote: > > What value pairs < 256/2048 would you suggest we try to find the max > usable? Or is it either 0/0 or 256/2048 and nothing else would really > work? Tricky. The threshold is checked at the beginning of a new definition. If the definition is longer than the threshold, the system runs out of space and crashes. The increase value is flexible, though. Only it now seems that might not be the problem at all. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@the.secret.bsdconspiracy.net wow regex humor... I'm a geek To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 17:28: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4877537B42C for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:28:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (mjacob@beppo [192.67.166.79]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4T0Rxg20776; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:27:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 17:27:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest on ' HEADS UP: loader broken' In-Reply-To: <3B12E9E1.5695323C@newsguy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Tricky. The threshold is checked at the beginning of a new definition. > If the definition is longer than the threshold, the system runs out of > space and crashes. The increase value is flexible, though. Only it now > seems that might not be the problem at all. Not directly, perhaps. But it sure induces it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 17:36: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [209.155.56.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E48D37B424 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:35:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (ppp039-bsace7002.telebrasilia.net.br [200.181.81.39]) by newsguy.com (8.11.0/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f4T0Y1F69336; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:34:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B12EED1.E83D23CE@newsguy.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:35:29 -0300 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,pt,en-GB,en-US,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: mjacob@feral.com, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest on ' HEADS UP: loader broken' References: <15122.40043.23892.164757@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <15122.40785.294428.276049@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <15122.45376.304502.55208@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok, here is the deal. There's a patch on http://people.freebsd.org/~dcs/ficl.patch. Also, trying the values 0/0 and 256/512 (for threshold/increase) might provide clues. Aside from that, it's a mystery to me. I'm backing out the change until I figure it out. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@the.secret.bsdconspiracy.net wow regex humor... I'm a geek To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 17:51:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [209.155.56.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0998A37B424 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:51:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (ppp039-bsace7002.telebrasilia.net.br [200.181.81.39]) by newsguy.com (8.11.0/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f4T0oAF71517; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:50:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B12F29B.A172B51F@newsguy.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:51:39 -0300 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,pt,en-GB,en-US,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest on ' HEADS UP: loader broken' References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > > Tricky. The threshold is checked at the beginning of a new definition. > > If the definition is longer than the threshold, the system runs out of > > space and crashes. The increase value is flexible, though. Only it now > > seems that might not be the problem at all. > > Not directly, perhaps. But it sure induces it. Nope. David just tested 0/0 for me. These are the default values, and it disables the feature. It crashed. So nothing gets allocated at all, because the thing crashes when _assigning_ these values. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@the.secret.bsdconspiracy.net wow regex humor... I'm a geek To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 17:53:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EA8337B424 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:53:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (mjacob@beppo [192.67.166.79]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4T0rMg23257; Mon, 28 May 2001 17:53:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 17:53:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest on ' HEADS UP: loader broken' In-Reply-To: <3B12F29B.A172B51F@newsguy.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 28 May 2001, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > > > > > Tricky. The threshold is checked at the beginning of a new definition. > > > If the definition is longer than the threshold, the system runs out of > > > space and crashes. The increase value is flexible, though. Only it now > > > seems that might not be the problem at all. > > > > Not directly, perhaps. But it sure induces it. > > Nope. David just tested 0/0 for me. These are the default values, and it > disables the feature. It crashed. So nothing gets allocated at all, > because the thing crashes when _assigning_ these values. Hair splitting. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 18:30:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [209.155.56.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85D237B422 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 18:30:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (ppp039-bsace7002.telebrasilia.net.br [200.181.81.39]) by newsguy.com (8.11.0/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f4T1SbF76872; Mon, 28 May 2001 18:28:37 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B12FBA0.41EB25A4@newsguy.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 22:30:08 -0300 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,pt,en-GB,en-US,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: mjacob@feral.com, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest on ' HEADS UP: loader broken' References: <15122.40043.23892.164757@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <15122.40785.294428.276049@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <15122.45376.304502.55208@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok, people. http://people.freebsd.org/~dcs/ficl.patch Use with revision 1.20 of loader.4th, so we can actually see if it corrects the problem. :-) -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@the.secret.bsdconspiracy.net wow regex humor... I'm a geek To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 18:32:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from newsguy.com (smtp.newsguy.com [209.155.56.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 833A137B423 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 18:32:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dcs@newsguy.com) Received: from newsguy.com (ppp039-bsace7002.telebrasilia.net.br [200.181.81.39]) by newsguy.com (8.11.0/8.9.1) with ESMTP id f4T1UlF77176; Mon, 28 May 2001 18:30:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B12FC26.EB424EE4@newsguy.com> Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 22:32:22 -0300 From: "Daniel C. Sobral" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pt-BR,pt,en-GB,en-US,ja MIME-Version: 1.0 To: mjacob@feral.com Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest on ' HEADS UP: loader broken' References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > Nope. David just tested 0/0 for me. These are the default values, and it > > disables the feature. It crashed. So nothing gets allocated at all, > > because the thing crashes when _assigning_ these values. > > Hair splitting. It's a mighty hair. The crash would happen at two completely different times, and the code causing it would be entirely different. -- Daniel C. Sobral (8-DCS) dcs@newsguy.com dcs@freebsd.org capo@the.secret.bsdconspiracy.net wow regex humor... I'm a geek To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 18:55:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B8C237B423 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 18:55:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@[206.40.252.115]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4T1thl49003; Mon, 28 May 2001 18:55:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f4T1tgw22319; Mon, 28 May 2001 18:55:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 18:55:42 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFree-4 Message-ID: <20010528185542.A22192@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org References: <15122.49378.194495.46122@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15122.49378.194495.46122@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 05:19:30PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 05:19:30PM -0400, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > I take it back, the following patch does work. How did Steve Price build this port on the Beta.freebsd.org cluster for 4.3-R? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon May 28 18:58:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1B5637B424 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 18:58:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@[206.40.252.115]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4T1wEl49016 for ; Mon, 28 May 2001 18:58:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f4T1wES22340 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Mon, 28 May 2001 18:58:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 18:58:14 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Latest on ' HEADS UP: loader broken' Message-ID: <20010528185813.B22192@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org References: <3B12F29B.A172B51F@newsguy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B12F29B.A172B51F@newsguy.com>; from dcs@newsguy.com on Mon, May 28, 2001 at 09:51:39PM -0300 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 09:51:39PM -0300, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > Nope. David just tested 0/0 for me. These are the default values, and it > disables the feature. It crashed. So nothing gets allocated at all, > because the thing crashes when _assigning_ these values. Here is the patch that DCS made that allowed me to boot with rev 1.20 of loader.4th. If you get a chance to test it before he commits it, report back here. The problem was an alignment issue. Index: dict.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/boot/ficl/dict.c,v retrieving revision 1.11 diff -u -p -r1.11 dict.c --- dict.c 2001/04/29 02:36:33 1.11 +++ dict.c 2001/05/29 01:04:15 @@ -66,8 +66,8 @@ #include "ficl.h" /* Dictionary on-demand resizing control variables */ -unsigned int dictThreshold; -unsigned int dictIncrease; +CELL dictThreshold; +CELL dictIncrease; static char *dictCopyName(FICL_DICT *pDict, STRINGINFO si); @@ -774,11 +774,12 @@ void hashReset(FICL_HASH *pHash) void dictCheckThreshold(FICL_DICT* dp) { - if( dictCellsAvail(dp) < dictThreshold ) { - dp->dict = ficlMalloc( dictIncrease * sizeof (CELL) ); + if( dictCellsAvail(dp) < dictThreshold.u ) { + dp->dict = ficlMalloc( dictIncrease.u * sizeof (CELL) ); assert(dp->dict); dp->here = dp->dict; - dp->size = dictIncrease; + dp->size = dictIncrease.u; + dictAlign(dp); } } Index: ficl.h =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/boot/ficl/ficl.h,v retrieving revision 1.18 diff -u -p -r1.18 ficl.h --- ficl.h 2001/04/29 02:36:33 1.18 +++ ficl.h 2001/05/29 01:04:17 @@ -1011,8 +1011,8 @@ WORDKIND ficlWordClassify(FICL_WORD *p /* ** Dictionary on-demand resizing */ -extern unsigned int dictThreshold; -extern unsigned int dictIncrease; +extern CELL dictThreshold; +extern CELL dictIncrease; /* ** Various FreeBSD goodies To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 29 0:30:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF52237B422 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 00:30:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4T7TJm91789 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 09:29:19 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 368C918CE8; Tue, 29 May 2001 09:29:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19ED815902 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 09:29:05 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 09:29:05 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: XFree-4 In-Reply-To: <20010528210052.D1187@freebie.demon.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I sent the last time anyway here they are: thanks Rick (make isntall after make) rm -f ../../../../../../../exports/lib/modules/freebsd/libdrm.a + cd ../../../../../../../exports/lib/modules/freebsd + ln -s ../../../../programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bsd/drm/libdrm.a . making all in programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bsd/drm/kernel... make -f Makefile.bsd ===> drm Warning: Object directory not changed from original /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bsd/drm/kernel/drm cc -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -I.. -D_KERNEL -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing-prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -DKLD_MODULE -nostdinc -I- -I.. -I. -I@ -I/usr/include -mno-fp-regs -Wa,-mev56 -c auth.c In file included from @/sys/systm.h:46, from ../drmP.h:41, from auth.c:33: machine/cpufunc.h: In function `invlpg': machine/cpufunc.h:270: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size machine/cpufunc.h: In function `outsb': machine/cpufunc.h:339: warning: asm operand 0 probably doesn't match constraints machine/cpufunc.h: In function `outsw': machine/cpufunc.h:347: warning: asm operand 0 probably doesn't match constraints machine/cpufunc.h: In function `outsl': machine/cpufunc.h:355: warning: asm operand 0 probably doesn't match constraints In file included from ../drmP.h:41, from auth.c:33: @/sys/systm.h: At top level: @/sys/systm.h:143: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `memcpy' In file included from @/sys/systm.h:179, from ../drmP.h:41, from auth.c:33: @/sys/libkern.h:87: warning: conflicting types for built-in function `strlen' In file included from auth.c:33: ../drmP.h: In function `test_and_set_bit': ../drmP.h:80: warning: implicit declaration of function `splhigh' ../drmP.h:84: warning: implicit declaration of function `splx' auth.c: In function `drm_find_file': auth.c:46: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size auth.c:54: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size auth.c: In function `drm_add_magic': auth.c:73: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size auth.c:81: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size auth.c: In function `drm_remove_magic': auth.c:95: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size auth.c:107: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size auth.c:111: warning: cast to pointer from integer of different size {standard input}: Assembler messages: {standard input}:35: Error: Bad expression {standard input}:35: Error: syntax error {standard input}:61: Error: Bad expression {standard input}:61: Error: syntax error {standard input}:125: Error: Bad expression {standard input}:125: Error: syntax error {standard input}:148: Error: Bad expression {standard input}:148: Error: syntax error {standard input}:200: Error: Bad expression {standard input}:200: Error: syntax error {standard input}:212: Error: Bad expression {standard input}:212: Error: syntax error {standard input}:253: Error: Bad expression {standard input}:253: Error: syntax error *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bsd/drm/kernel/drm. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bsd/drm/kernel. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bsd/drm/kernel. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support/bsd/drm. On Mon, 28 May 2001, Wilko Bulte wrote: > Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 21:00:52 +0200 > From: Wilko Bulte > To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it > Cc: David O'Brien , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: XFree-4 > > On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 08:51:35PM +0200, Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: > > Sure Igive you the detail > > That is not detailed in any shape or form. > > > FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE, XFree3.3.6 > > XFree 4.0.3 won't build succesfully > > Where does it fail?? Compile logs/error messages please... > > W/ > > > thanks > > > > Rick > > > > On Mon, 28 May 2001, David O'Brien wrote: > > > > > Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 10:34:23 -0700 > > > From: David O'Brien > > > To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it > > > Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org > > > Subject: Re: XFree-4 > > > > > > On Mon, May 28, 2001 at 04:50:12PM +0200, Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: > > > > > > > > I have problems building the XFree port > > > > > > PLEASE provide suffient detail. What version of FreeBSD is this on? > > > > > > \begin{rant} > > > > > > WHY do we always have to beg for this detail? Aren't there any > > > professional programmers or sysadmins out there that in their day-job > > > would demand the same supporting details for any problem told to > > > them??? > > > > > > \end{rant} > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > ---end of quoted text--- > > -- > | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@freebsd.org > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Powered by FreeBSD/alpha http://www.freebsd.org > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 29 0:32:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B94B37B424 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 00:32:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4T7W9m91838; Tue, 29 May 2001 09:32:09 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C2B9618CE8; Tue, 29 May 2001 09:32:05 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9AF215902; Tue, 29 May 2001 09:32:05 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 09:32:05 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Subject: Re: tscp MIPS result really weird In-Reply-To: <15122.42765.985489.423071@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org the SRM console says 96KB ACACHE 2MB BCACHE do u think my BCACHE is not working properly ??? thanks Rick On Mon, 28 May 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:29:17 -0400 (EDT) > From: Andrew Gallatin > To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it > Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: tscp MIPS result really weird > > > Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it writes: > > > > Hello, I just run the tscp program taken at > > > > http://socsci.colorado.edu/~tarrb/kerrigat/ > > > > I run it on my Miata DPW 500a and here is the weird result: > > Nodes: 550822 > > Best time: 22900 ms > > Nodes per second: 24053 (163.5 MIPS) > > > > I am very disappointed I Was expecting something like 800 MIPS > > Do you think the tscp is wrong or is that my system to have problems ?? > > Could anyone else try tscp on his Alpha machine even if is not Miata ?? > > Do you have a bcache? > > I just ran this thing on a 600MHz 164lx with a 2mb bcache, 4.3-RELEASE: > > > GCC: cc -O3 -funroll-loops -fexpensive-optimizations -fschedule-insns2 *.c -o tsc.gcc *.o -lcompat > > Nodes: 627028 > Best time: 10408 ms > Nodes per second: 60244 > tscp> > > Then I compiled it on an osf/1 alpha and ran it on the same box: > > DECC: cc -tune ev56 -O4 -fast -ifo *.c -o tsc.deccc > > Nodes: 627028 > Best time: 8904 ms > Nodes per second: 70420 > tscp> > > > Drew > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 29 0:58:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp [133.9.152.154]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1F0737B423 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 00:58:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fujimori@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp) Received: from grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (fujimori@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp (8.9.3/3.7W) with ESMTP id QAA01412; Tue, 29 May 2001 16:58:26 +0900 Message-Id: <200105290758.QAA01412@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tscp MIPS result really weird In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 29 May 2001 09:32:05 +0200." Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 16:58:26 +0000 From: Yoriaki FUJIMORI Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I do not know the exact spec of your machine and how it is configured. But, I will show you my result: (1) AlphaPC164 500MHz(2MB)/512MB [FreeBSD4.3] (2) PC164LX 600MHz(4MB)/1024MB [Tru64 5.0] (3) UP1100 600MHz(2MB)/768MB [FreeBSD4.2] (A) ccc -tune ev56 -O4 -fast -ifo *.c (Compaq ccc on linux-emulator) (1) 550822, 7143ms, 77113 (524 MIPS) (3) 550822, 4309ms, 127830 (869 MIPS) (B) ccc -tune ev6 -O4 -fast -ifo *.c (Compaq ccc on linux-emulator) (3) 550822, 4159ms, 132240 (900 MIPS) (C) cc -nointrinsics -tune ev56 -O3 -ifo *.c (Compaq cc on tru64) (2) 550822, 5554ms, 99175 (674.2 MIPS) (3) 550822, 4354ms, 126509 (860 MIPS) I guess the amount of B-cache matters with respect to this kind of small scale benchmarks. Yoriaki Fujimori To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 29 2:18:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9881037B423 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 02:18:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4T9Ilm95242; Tue, 29 May 2001 11:18:47 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A529918CE8; Tue, 29 May 2001 11:18:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9FD15902; Tue, 29 May 2001 11:18:45 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 11:18:44 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: Yoriaki FUJIMORI Cc: Subject: Re: tscp MIPS result really weird In-Reply-To: <200105290758.QAA01412@grafin.fujimori.cache.waseda.ac.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi this is my case. I run again the compiler with proper options: DPW 500A (MIATA) 500MHz ev56 2MB BCACHE 96KB ACACHE 256MB RAM FreeBSD 4.3 GENERIC GCC: cc -O3 -funroll-loops -fexpensive-optimizations -fschedule-insns2 *.c -o tsc.gcc *.o -lcompat Nodes: 550822 Best time: 8335 ms Nodes per second: 66085 (449.2 MIPS) this with a few processes running on the system. The same benchmark when compiling in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86-4 gives me: Nodes: 550822 Best time: 11959 ms Nodes per second: 46059 (313.1 MIPS) the same benchmark in single user mode gives me 500MIPS Is it normal this big difference ?? I guess anyway the GCC is not as well optimized as COMPAQ cc. Anyone might run this test on his own Miata too ?? thanks Rick On Tue, 29 May 2001, Yoriaki FUJIMORI wrote: > Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 16:58:26 +0000 > From: Yoriaki FUJIMORI > To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it > Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: tscp MIPS result really weird > > I do not know the exact spec of your machine and how it is configured. > But, I will show you my result: > > (1) AlphaPC164 500MHz(2MB)/512MB [FreeBSD4.3] > (2) PC164LX 600MHz(4MB)/1024MB [Tru64 5.0] > (3) UP1100 600MHz(2MB)/768MB [FreeBSD4.2] > > (A) ccc -tune ev56 -O4 -fast -ifo *.c (Compaq ccc on linux-emulator) > (1) 550822, 7143ms, 77113 (524 MIPS) > (3) 550822, 4309ms, 127830 (869 MIPS) > (B) ccc -tune ev6 -O4 -fast -ifo *.c (Compaq ccc on linux-emulator) > (3) 550822, 4159ms, 132240 (900 MIPS) > (C) cc -nointrinsics -tune ev56 -O3 -ifo *.c (Compaq cc on tru64) > (2) 550822, 5554ms, 99175 (674.2 MIPS) > (3) 550822, 4354ms, 126509 (860 MIPS) > > I guess the amount of B-cache matters with respect to this kind of > small scale benchmarks. > > Yoriaki Fujimori > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 29 4: 1:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5208237B43C for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 04:01:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4TB1Em98196; Tue, 29 May 2001 13:01:14 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id B726818CE8; Tue, 29 May 2001 13:01:13 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B21115902; Tue, 29 May 2001 13:01:13 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 13:01:12 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Subject: Re: XFree-4 In-Reply-To: <15122.49378.194495.46122@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This really works. IT does not look for kernel sources anymore. thanks a lot Rick On Mon, 28 May 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 17:19:30 -0400 (EDT) > From: Andrew Gallatin > To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it > Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: XFree-4 > > > > I take it back, the following patch does work. It just wants to grab > the kernel sources for no good reason, even though it isn't building > dri. > > I'll submit it to the $MAINTAINER > > Drew > > > Index: scripts/configure > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/ports/x11/XFree86-4/scripts/configure,v > retrieving revision 1.76 > diff -u -r1.76 configure > --- scripts/configure 2001/04/11 01:03:55 1.76 > +++ scripts/configure 2001/05/28 19:41:52 > @@ -220,7 +220,7 @@ > echo "#define HasPam $answ" >> $F > > echo "#define InstallXserverSetUID NO " >> $F > -if [ $OSVERSION -lt 500013 ]; then > +if [ $OSVERSION -lt 500013 -a X${MACHINE} != X"alpha" ]; then > echo "#define BuildXF86DRI YES" >> $F > echo "#define BuildXF86DRM YES" >> $F > fi > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 29 6:40:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C60337B423 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 06:40:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4TDeKm03158 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 15:40:20 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 26D6C18CE8; Tue, 29 May 2001 15:40:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5ECF15902 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 15:40:18 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 15:40:18 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: XFree86-4 and glint... interesting problem Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello. I succesfully built XFree4 which supports <3D Labs 500TX graphics accelerator> (glint driver) the problem is that it won't start. I was thinking the problem being the card mounted on the 64 bit PCI socket (THe pci0 bus) so I put it on the 32 bit PCI socket (pci1 bus) but I still have the same problem. Here I Report the error I logged. I guess it might be something due to my build of XFree86 ?? I do not know.. so I Ask for your precious help... seems like it cannot resolve symbols in modules. Anyway SuperProbe crashes...always. here is the error: XFree86 Version 4.0.3 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6400) Release Date: 16 March 2001 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Operating System: FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE alpha [ELF] Module Loader present (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.8.log", Time: Tue May 29 15:25:01 2001 (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 16777218.0) (--) using VT number 3 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a (II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a (II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 0.1.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a (II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 0.1.0 (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a (--) PCI:*(1:10:0) Avance ALG2064 rev 0, Mem @ 0x81000000/21 (--) PCI: (1:10:1) 3Dlabs GLINT Delta rev 1, Mem @ 0x81220000/17 (--) PCI: (1:10:2) 3Dlabs GLINT 500TX rev 1, Mem @ 0x81200000/17, 0x80800000/23, 0x80000000/23 List of video drivers: atimisc r128 radeon mga glint nv tga s3virge sis rendition neomagic i740 tdfx savage cirrus tseng trident chips apm fbdev i128 ati ark cyrix siliconmotion vesa vga (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/atimisc_drv.o (II) Module ati: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 6.2.3 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/r128_drv.o (II) Module r128: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 4.0.1 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/radeon_drv.o (II) Module radeon: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 4.0.1 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/mga_drv.o (II) Module mga: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/glint_drv.o (II) Module glint: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/nv_drv.o (II) Module nv: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/tga_drv.o (II) Module tga: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/s3virge_drv.o (II) Module s3virge: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.6.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/sis_drv.o (II) Module sis: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 0.6.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/rendition_drv.o (II) Module rendition: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 4.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/neomagic_drv.o (II) Module neomagic: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/i740_drv.o (II) Module i740: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/tdfx_drv.o (II) Module tdfx: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/savage_drv.o (II) Module savage: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.1.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/cirrus_drv.o (II) Module cirrus: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/tseng_drv.o (II) Module tseng: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/trident_drv.o (II) Module trident: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/chips_drv.o (II) Module chips: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/apm_drv.o (II) Module apm: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/fbdev_drv.o (II) Module fbdev: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 0.1.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/i128_drv.o (II) Module i128: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ati_drv.o (II) Module ati: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 6.2.3 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/ark_drv.o (II) Module ark: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 0.5.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/cyrix_drv.o (II) Module cyrix: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/siliconmotion_drv.o (II) Module siliconmotion: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.2.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.o (II) Module vesa: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/vga_drv.o (II) Module vga: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 4.0.0 (II) GLINT: driver for 3Dlabs chipsets: gamma, ti_pm2, ti_pm, pm3, pm2v, pm2, pm, 300sx, 500tx, mx (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/cirrus_laguna.o (II) Module cirrus_laguna: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/cirrus_alpine.o (II) Module cirrus_alpine: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa (II) VGA: Generic VGA driver (version 4.0) for chipsets: generic (++) Using config file: "/root/XF86Config.new" Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (??) unknown. (==) ServerLayout "XFree86 Configured" (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" (**) | |-->Device "Card0" (**) |-->Screen "Screen1" (1) (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor1" (**) | |-->Device "Card1" (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" (**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" (WW) GLINT: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:10:1) found (--) Chipset 500tx found (--) Chipset vesa found (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libvbe.a (II) Module vbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libint10.a (II) Module int10: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) GLINT(0): initializing int10 (II) Machine type has 8/16 bit access (EE) GLINT(0): Cannot read V_BIOS (4) XFree86 is not able to detect your mouse. Edit the file and correct the Device. XFree86 has configured a multihead system, please check your config. Your XF86Config file is /root/XF86Config.new To test the server, run 'XFree86 -xf86config /root/XF86Config.new' XFree86 Version 4.0.3 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6400) Release Date: 16 March 2001 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Operating System: FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE alpha [ELF] Module Loader present (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.8.log", Time: Tue May 29 15:25:04 2001 (++) Using config file: "/root/XF86Config.new" Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (??) unknown. (==) ServerLayout "XFree86 Configured" (**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0" (**) | |-->Device "Card0" (**) |-->Screen "Screen1" (1) (**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor1" (**) | |-->Device "Card1" (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" (**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" (**) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 16777218.0) (--) using VT number 3 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a (II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a (II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 0.1.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a (II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 0.1.0 (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a (--) PCI:*(1:10:0) Avance ALG2064 rev 0, Mem @ 0x81000000/21 (--) PCI: (1:10:1) 3Dlabs GLINT Delta rev 1, Mem @ 0x81220000/17 (--) PCI: (1:10:2) 3Dlabs GLINT 500TX rev 1, Mem @ 0x81200000/17, 0x80800000/23, 0x80000000/23 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a (II) Module extmod: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libxie.a (II) Module xie: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a (II) Module glx: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a (II) Module GLcore: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a (II) Module dri: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/freebsd/libdrm.a (II) Module drm: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a (II) Module dbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/librecord.a (II) Module record: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.13.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/glint_drv.o (II) Module glint: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.o (II) Module vesa: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o (II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) GLINT: driver for 3Dlabs chipsets: gamma, ti_pm2, ti_pm, pm3, pm2v, pm2, pm, 300sx, 500tx, mx (II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa (WW) GLINT: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:10:1) found (--) Chipset 500tx found (--) Chipset vesa found (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libint10.a (II) Module int10: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) GLINT(0): Initializing int10 (II) Machine type has 8/16 bit access (EE) GLINT(0): Cannot read V_BIOS (4) (==) GLINT(0): Depth 8, (--) framebuffer bpp 8 (==) GLINT(0): Default visual is PseudoColor (==) GLINT(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (==) GLINT(0): Using HW cursor (--) GLINT(0): Not using Linux framebuffer device (--) GLINT(0): Chipset: "500tx" (--) GLINT(0): Linear framebuffer at 0x80000000 (--) GLINT(0): MMIO registers at 0x81200000 (--) GLINT(0): VideoRAM: 8192 kByte (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libramdac.a (II) Module ramdac: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 0.1.0 (--) GLINT(0): Attached RAMDAC is TI TVP3026 (==) GLINT(0): Min pixel clock is 16 MHz (--) GLINT(0): Max pixel clock is 220 MHz (WW) GLINT(0): Monitor0: Using default hsync range of 28-33kHz (WW) GLINT(0): Monitor0: using default vrefresh range of 43-72Hz (II) GLINT(0): Clock range: 16.25 to 220.00 MHz (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x350" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x400" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "720x400" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x480" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x480" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x480" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "800x600" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "800x600" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "800x600" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "800x600" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "800x600" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1024x768" deleted (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1024x768" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1024x768" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1024x768" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1024x768" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1152x864" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1280x960" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1280x960" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1280x1024" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1280x1024" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1280x1024" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1600x1200" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1600x1200" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1600x1200" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1600x1200" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1600x1200" deleted (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1792x1344" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1792x1344" deleted (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1856x1392" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1856x1392" deleted (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1920x1440" deleted (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1920x1440" deleted (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (WW) GLINT(0): GLINT SX/TX/MX chipsets only support one modeline, using first (--) GLINT(0): Virtual size is 640x480 (pitch 640) (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "640x480": 25.2 MHz, 31.5 kHz, 60.0 Hz (==) GLINT(0): DPI set to (75, 75) (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a (II) Module fb: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libxaa.a (II) Module xaa: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a (II) Module ddc: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (==) VESA(1): Depth 8, (==) framebuffer bpp 8 (==) VESA(1): Default visual is PseudoColor (==) VESA(1): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (EE) VESA(1): Unknown vm86_int: 21 Symbol shadowAlloc from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.o is unresolved! Symbol shadowAlloc from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.o is unresolved! Symbol cfb24_32ScreenInit from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.o is unresolved! Symbol cfb24_32ScreenInit from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.o is unresolved! Symbol shadowUpdatePlanar4 from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.o is unresolved! Symbol shadowUpdatePlanar4x8 from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.o is unresolved! Symbol shadowUpdatePacked from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.o is unresolved! Symbol shadowUpdatePacked from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.o is unresolved! Symbol shadowInit from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.o is unresolved! Symbol shadowInit from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/vesa_drv.o is unresolved! Fatal server error: Caught signal 11. Server aborting When reporting a problem related to a server crash, please send the full server output, not just the last messages. This can be found in the log file "/var/log/XFree86.8.log". Please report problems to xfree86@xfree86.org. Cannot connect to X server. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue May 29 7:52:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EDE937B616 for ; Tue, 29 May 2001 07:52:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16801; Tue, 29 May 2001 10:52:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4TEpVp36796; Tue, 29 May 2001 10:51:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15123.46963.240692.399368@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 10:51:31 -0400 (EDT) To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: mjacob@feral.com, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latest on ' HEADS UP: loader broken' In-Reply-To: <3B12FBA0.41EB25A4@newsguy.com> References: <15122.40043.23892.164757@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <15122.40785.294428.276049@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <15122.45376.304502.55208@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <3B12FBA0.41EB25A4@newsguy.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Daniel C. Sobral writes: > Ok, people. http://people.freebsd.org/~dcs/ficl.patch > > Use with revision 1.20 of loader.4th, so we can actually see if it > corrects the problem. :-) And with a loader.rc that actually uses the 4th stuff too. This seems to work for me on that AS500. Please go ahead and commit it. FWIW, we seem to be using 180KB w/o including /boot/loader.4th and 280KB after including it. So we still have some headroom left. FreeBSD/alpha SRM disk boot, Revision 1.1 (gallatin@thunder.cs.duke.edu, Mon May 28 15:56:14 EDT 2001) Memory: 131072 k /kernel data=0x3c3b00+0x2a910 syms=[0x8+0x4c998+0x8+0x3560c] Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help. ok heap heap base at 0x20041cc0, top at 0x2006ecc0, used 184320 ok include /boot/loader.4th ok heap heap base at 0x20041cc0, top at 0x20087cc0, used 286720 ok Cheers, Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 30 1:38:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E5E337B42C for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 01:38:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4U8brm27534 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 10:37:53 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 696F418CE8; Wed, 30 May 2001 10:37:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DB6F15902 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 10:37:51 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 10:37:51 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: lotsa problem with Xfree86 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org XFree86-4 I ahve lot of troubles. My card is a GLINT 500TX. this is the log file from X server. I do not understand why it seems to probe for 2 graphic devices: (--) PCI:*(1:10:0) Avance ALG2064 rev 0, Mem @ 0x81000000/21 (--) PCI: (1:10:1) 3Dlabs GLINT Delta rev 1, Mem @ 0x81220000/17 (--) PCI: (1:10:2) 3Dlabs GLINT 500TX rev 1, Mem @ 0x81200000/17, 0x80800000/23, 0x80000000/23 I do not know what this Avance Logic ALG2064 is (Something motherborad embedded?) I have an AccelGraphics 500TX board plugged in one of the 3 32 bit PCI slot. Anyway if I modify XF86Config deleting the entries for screen1 (ALG2064) And leaving only screen0 (GLINT 500TX) everything starts. The X server starts but the screen is complitely messy I hardly can see the windows. It is not a problem of vsync and hsync because the monitor menu OSD is displayed correctly... do u think I Scould change graphic board ?? Anyway it is supported. Any suggestions on my problem?? I have a DPW 500a (Miata, MX5 I suppose). Here I Report you the complete XFree86 log: thanks Rick XFree86 Version 4.0.3 / X Window System (protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 6400) Release Date: 16 March 2001 If the server is older than 6-12 months, or if your card is newer than the above date, look for a newer version before reporting problems. (See http://www.XFree86.Org/FAQ) Operating System: FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE alpha [ELF] Module Loader present (==) Log file: "/var/log/XFree86.0.log", Time: Wed May 30 10:19:32 2001 (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/XF86Config" Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting, (++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational, (WW) warning, (EE) error, (??) unknown. (==) ServerLayout "Simple Layout" (**) |-->Screen "Screen 0" (0) (**) | |-->Monitor "ViewSonic" (**) | |-->Device "AccelGraphics" (**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0" (**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0" (**) XKB: rules: "xfree86" (**) XKB: model: "pc101" (**) XKB: layout: "us" (**) FontPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi/,/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi/" (**) RgbPath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb" (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules" (--) Using syscons driver with X support (version 16777218.0) (--) using VT number 3 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libbitmap.a (II) Module bitmap: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libpcidata.a (II) Module pcidata: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 0.1.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a (II) Module scanpci: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 0.1.0 (II) Unloading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libscanpci.a (--) PCI:*(1:10:0) Avance ALG2064 rev 0, Mem @ 0x81000000/21 (--) PCI: (1:10:1) 3Dlabs GLINT Delta rev 1, Mem @ 0x81220000/17 (--) PCI: (1:10:2) 3Dlabs GLINT 500TX rev 1, Mem @ 0x81200000/17, 0x80800000/23, 0x80000000/23 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libtype1.a (II) Module type1: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/fonts/libfreetype.a (II) Module freetype: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.1.9 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libextmod.a (II) Module extmod: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libxie.a (II) Module xie: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libglx.a (II) Module glx: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a (II) Module GLcore: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a (II) Module dri: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/freebsd/libdrm.a (II) Module drm: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdbe.a (II) Module dbe: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/librecord.a (II) Module record: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.13.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/glint_drv.o (II) Module glint: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/input/mouse_drv.o (II) Module mouse: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) GLINT: driver for 3Dlabs chipsets: gamma, ti_pm2, ti_pm, pm3, pm2v, pm2, pm, 300sx, 500tx, mx (WW) GLINT: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:1:10:1) found (--) Chipset 500tx found (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libint10.a (II) Module int10: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) GLINT(0): Initializing int10 (II) Machine type has 8/16 bit access (EE) GLINT(0): Cannot read V_BIOS (4) (**) GLINT(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32 (==) GLINT(0): RGB weight 888 (==) GLINT(0): Default visual is TrueColor (==) GLINT(0): Using gamma correction (1.0, 1.0, 1.0) (==) GLINT(0): Using HW cursor (--) GLINT(0): Not using Linux framebuffer device (--) GLINT(0): Chipset: "500tx" (--) GLINT(0): Linear framebuffer at 0x80000000 (--) GLINT(0): MMIO registers at 0x81200000 (**) GLINT(0): VideoRAM: 8192 kByte (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libramdac.a (II) Module ramdac: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 0.1.0 (--) GLINT(0): Attached RAMDAC is TI TVP3026 (==) GLINT(0): Min pixel clock is 16 MHz (**) GLINT(0): Max pixel clock is 220 MHz (II) GLINT(0): ViewSonic: Using hsync range of 31.50-57.00 kHz (II) GLINT(0): ViewSonic: Using vrefresh range of 50.00-90.00 Hz (II) GLINT(0): Clock range: 16.25 to 220.00 MHz (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1024x768" deleted (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1024x768" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1024x768" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1152x864" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1280x960" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1280x960" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1280x1024" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1280x1024" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1280x1024" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1600x1200" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1600x1200" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1600x1200" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1600x1200" deleted (hsync out of range) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1600x1200" deleted (bad mode clock/interlace/doublescan) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1792x1344" deleted (insufficient memory for mode) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1792x1344" deleted (insufficient memory for mode) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1856x1392" deleted (insufficient memory for mode) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1856x1392" deleted (insufficient memory for mode) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1920x1440" deleted (insufficient memory for mode) (WW) GLINT(0): Default mode "1920x1440" deleted (insufficient memory for mode) (WW) GLINT(0): Mode "1280x1024" deleted (no mode of this name) (WW) GLINT(0): GLINT SX/TX/MX chipsets only support one modeline, using first (--) GLINT(0): Virtual size is 800x600 (pitch 800) (**) GLINT(0): Default mode "800x600": 56.3 MHz, 53.7 kHz, 85.1 Hz (==) GLINT(0): DPI set to (75, 75) (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libfb.a (II) Module fb: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libxaa.a (II) Module xaa: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (II) Loading /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/libddc.a (II) Module ddc: vendor="The XFree86 Project" compiled for 4.0.3, module version = 1.0.0 (--) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp (II) GLINT(0): Using XFree86 Acceleration Architecture (XAA) Screen to screen bit blits Solid filled rectangles 8x8 mono pattern filled rectangles Indirect CPU to Screen color expansion Solid Lines Offscreen Pixmaps Driver provided WriteBitmap replacement Driver provided WritePixmap replacement Setting up tile and stipple cache: 32 128x128 slots 14 256x256 slots (==) GLINT(0): Backing store disabled (==) GLINT(0): Silken mouse enabled (II) GLINT(0): direct rendering disabled (**) Mouse0: Protocol: "PS/2" (**) Mouse0: Core Pointer (==) Mouse0: Buttons: 3 (II) Keyboard "Keyboard0" handled by legacy driver (II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "Mouse0" (type: MOUSE) (WW) fcntl(8, F_SETOWN): Inappropriate ioctl for device Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo/, removing from list! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 30 2:40: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38A4437B423 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 02:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f4U9e1D27722; Wed, 30 May 2001 02:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from ra.eng.mindspring.net (ra.eng.mindspring.net [207.69.192.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8EA4937B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 02:31:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sudish@mindspring.com) Received: (qmail 1446 invoked by uid 52477); 30 May 2001 09:31:01 -0000 Message-Id: Date: 30 May 2001 05:31:01 -0400 From: Sudish Joseph To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: alpha/27766: /usr/bin/ppp issues unaligned accesses and core dumps on an alpha Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 27766 >Category: alpha >Synopsis: /usr/bin/ppp issues unaligned accesses and core dumps on alpha (patch included) >Confidential: no >Severity: critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-alpha >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Wed May 30 02:40:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Sudish Joseph >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE alpha >Organization: >Environment: System: FreeBSD aleph.weenal.com 4.3-STABLE FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #0: Wed May 30 02:26:09 GMT 2001 root@aleph.weenal.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SUDISH alpha >Description: /usr/sbin/ppp attempts unaligned accesses when resolving dns queries. On an alpha this can and does cause a core dump. The patch below removes the unaligned access. >How-To-Repeat: Run /usr/bin/ppp on an alpha and do anything that causes ppp to do dns lookups. For instance, try a traceroute without -n. Given the right dns reply packet -- one with unaligned data -- ppp dumps core. >Fix: The following patch replaces the unaligned access with a bcopy(), which fixes the problem. --- /usr/src/usr.sbin/ppp/ip.c Thu May 17 19:11:47 2001 +++ /usr/src/usr.sbin/ppp/ip.c Tue May 29 06:10:34 2001 @@ -452,6 +452,7 @@ const u_char *ptr; u_short *hptr; int len; + u_short tmp; ptr = (const char *)uh + sizeof *uh; len = ntohs(uh->uh_ulen) - sizeof *uh; @@ -489,8 +490,10 @@ n += len; } *n = '\0'; - qtype = dns_Qtype2Txt(ntohs(*(const u_short *)end)); - qclass = dns_Qclass2Txt(ntohs(*(const u_short *)(end + 2))); + bcopy(end, &tmp, sizeof(tmp)); + qtype = dns_Qtype2Txt(ntohs(tmp)); + bcopy(end + 2, &tmp, sizeof(tmp)); + qclass = dns_Qclass2Txt(ntohs(tmp)); log_Printf(LogDNS, "%sbound query %s %s %s\n", direction, qclass, qtype, namewithdot); >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 30 3: 2:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE13F37B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 03:02:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4UA27m30281 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 12:02:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1635718CE8; Wed, 30 May 2001 12:02:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3D1315902 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 12:02:06 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 12:02:06 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: GCC problem ?? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org compiling emacs21 port on DPW 500a, FreeBSD 4.3-GENERIC: configure:4084: checking size of short configure:4098: cc -o conftest -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -I/usr/local/include -L /usr/local/lib -Xlinker -R/usr/local/lib:/usr/libexec conftest.c -lut il -lxpg4 -lgcc -lc -lgcc /usr/lib/crtend.o 1>&5 Segmentation fault - core dumped configure: failed program was: #line 4087 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" #include main() { FILE *f=fopen("conftestval", "w"); if (!f) exit(1); fprintf(f, "%d\n", sizeof(short)); exit(0); } (end of "config.log") thanks Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 30 6:17:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE55837B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 06:17:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4UDHOm36217 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 15:17:24 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 83E6718CE8; Wed, 30 May 2001 15:17:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C83F15902 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 15:17:23 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 15:17:22 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: 100Mbps dc0 settings Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, always the same Miata MX5: dc0: port 0x9000-0x907f mem 0x81340000-0x8134007f irq 0 at device 3.0 on pci0 dc0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.84.146.216 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.84.146.255 inet6 fe80::200:f8ff:fe75:81c0%dc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 ether 00:00:f8:75:81:c0 media: 10baseT/UTP status: active supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UT P 10baseT/UTP 100baseTX How can I ru nit at 100Mbps full-duplex ?? ACtually it is attached on a 100Mbps switch, how can I force it to 100Mbps ?? Seems like the autosensing of speed is not working. thanks Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 30 6:58:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5E3337B424 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 06:58:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA07441; Wed, 30 May 2001 09:58:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4UDvlU40378; Wed, 30 May 2001 09:57:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15124.64603.281236.755524@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 09:57:47 -0400 (EDT) To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: Subject: Re: 100Mbps dc0 settings In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it writes: > > > Hello, always the same Miata MX5: > dc0: port 0x9000-0x907f mem 0x81340000-0x8134007f irq 0 at device 3.0 on pci0 > dc0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 > inet 192.84.146.216 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.84.146.255 > inet6 fe80::200:f8ff:fe75:81c0%dc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 > ether 00:00:f8:75:81:c0 > media: 10baseT/UTP status: active > supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX > 10baseT/UT > P 10baseT/UTP 100baseTX > > How can I ru nit at 100Mbps full-duplex ?? > ACtually it is attached on a 100Mbps switch, how can I force it to 100Mbps ?? > Seems like the autosensing of speed is not working. Yes, because you've disabled autoselecting. If it were autoselecting, the media line would say so: media: autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active Note the world "autoselect" Read the ifconfig(8) and dc(4) man pages to learn how to enable autoselect. BTW, autoselect is almost certainly disabled because FreeBSD/alpha preserves the SRM console media settings when possible. So there are 2 ways to make it autoselect -- set the media option of ifconfig, or set it to autoselect in the SRM console via the ewaX_mode variable. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 30 8:53:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D63937B424; Wed, 30 May 2001 08:53:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from brian@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f4UFrjA86482; Wed, 30 May 2001 08:53:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 08:53:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200105301553.f4UFrjA86482@freefall.freebsd.org> To: sudish@mindspring.com, brian@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: alpha/27766: /usr/bin/ppp issues unaligned accesses and core dumps on alpha (patch included) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: /usr/bin/ppp issues unaligned accesses and core dumps on alpha (patch included) State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: brian State-Changed-When: Wed May 30 08:53:15 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in -current - thanks. I'll MFC the change in 2 weeks. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27766 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 30 10: 5:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26CDE37B423 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 10:05:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11360; Wed, 30 May 2001 13:05:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4UH5OI46228; Wed, 30 May 2001 13:05:24 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15125.10324.446776.185828@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 13:05:24 -0400 (EDT) To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: Subject: Re: GCC problem ?? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org More like a gnu-configure-being-to-smart-for-its-own-damned-good problem. The following appears to work: rm files/patch-aj Drew Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it writes: > > compiling emacs21 port on DPW 500a, FreeBSD 4.3-GENERIC: > > configure:4084: checking size of short > configure:4098: cc -o conftest -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -I/usr/local/include > -L > /usr/local/lib -Xlinker -R/usr/local/lib:/usr/libexec conftest.c > -lut > il -lxpg4 -lgcc -lc -lgcc /usr/lib/crtend.o 1>&5 > Segmentation fault - core dumped > configure: failed program was: > #line 4087 "configure" > #include "confdefs.h" > #include > main() > { > FILE *f=fopen("conftestval", "w"); > if (!f) exit(1); > fprintf(f, "%d\n", sizeof(short)); > exit(0); > } > (end of "config.log") > > > thanks > > Rick > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 30 10:11:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29C4337B422; Wed, 30 May 2001 10:11:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA11456; Wed, 30 May 2001 13:11:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4UHAwS46237; Wed, 30 May 2001 13:10:58 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15125.10658.672928.943575@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 13:10:58 -0400 (EDT) To: obrien@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GCC problem ?? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David, The problem here is that xemacs21's patch-aj is setting up a special case for alpha which omits /usr/lib/crti.o and /usr/lib/crtn.o. I don't pay much attention to such things. I assume these files did not exist on the alpha at some point in the past, but the toolchain changed sometime prior to 4.3-RELEASE so these files now exist on the alpha. When did that change occur? Is it far enough in the past so that it is safe to simply cvs rm that patch? Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 30 12:11:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D5D937B422; Wed, 30 May 2001 12:11:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f4UJBGZ17348; Wed, 30 May 2001 12:11:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 12:11:16 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200105301911.f4UJBGZ17348@freefall.freebsd.org> To: raymond@one.com.au, gallatin@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: alpha/18808: Unalligned trap handler fails on quadword Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Unalligned trap handler fails on quadword State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: gallatin State-Changed-When: Wed May 30 12:06:50 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: The author was contacted and it was determaind that this is the same bug as alpha/25535. This PR has been closed because it was fixed in -stable and -current with rev 1.51 and 1.15.2.3 of alpha/alpha/trap.c http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=18808 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 30 16:30:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 664) id B416237B42C; Wed, 30 May 2001 16:30:15 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 16:30:15 -0700 From: David O'Brien To: Mike Smith Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: broken loader? Message-ID: <20010530163015.A52916@hub.freebsd.org> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20010527170810.A91713@hub.freebsd.org> <200105280252.f4S2qTA05760@mass.dis.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200105280252.f4S2qTA05760@mass.dis.org>; from msmith@freebsd.org on Sun, May 27, 2001 at 07:52:29PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, May 27, 2001 at 07:52:29PM -0700, Mike Smith wrote: > I will note that none of these fellow developers have actually stood up > and participated when Daniel has called for help in testing these > changes. You persistently ignore things until they blow up, and then > whine when they do, claiming that you've been blindsided. Actuallly I *have* tested loader things for DCS when he has asked me on IRC. Including when he was trying to get FICL running on the Alpha. Just because I was not able to give the answer why it wouldn't work on the Alpha doesn't mean I did not test things. I also spent 3 hours the other day testing various patches so DCS could find the this bug (in an area he did not did not think it was in, wonder why there was no attribution in the commit log). -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 30 16:35: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from netau1.alcanet.com.au (ntp.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B235A37B424 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 16:35:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jeremyp@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au) Received: from mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au (mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au [139.188.23.1]) by netau1.alcanet.com.au (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA16432 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 09:34:58 +1000 (EST) Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au by cim.alcatel.com.au (PMDF V5.2-32 #37641) with ESMTP id <01K47JBZ7PMOVF97T4@cim.alcatel.com.au> for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Thu, 31 May 2001 09:34:51 +1000 Received: (from jeremyp@localhost) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f4UNYsM24672 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Thu, 31 May 2001 09:34:54 +1000 (EST envelope-from jeremyp) Content-return: prohibited Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 09:34:54 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Abyssmal interrupt latency with -current To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Message-id: <20010531093454.X89950@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've recently been getting SILO overflows on the PPP link on my Multia. I recall seeing a comment (probably in -current) about interrupt latency regressions, but the Multia seems worse than my 486, so I suspect some of it is alpha-specific. As a comparison, my 386SX-25 running 2.2.5 can run PPP at 38.4kbps without SILO overflows using a 16450 UART. My Multia running -current gets SILO overflows at 38.4kbps with a 16550A set to interrupt at 8 bytes (even after I disable WITNESS and INVARIANTS). This is an order of magnitude worse performance. To try and get a handle on the problem, I added code to read and save the PCC at the start of XentInt() [this is as close as I can get to when the interrupt was raised], siointr() [this is when the interrupt is delivered to the device's interrupt handler] and siointr1() [which is after the sio mutex is seized and close to when the received character is actually read]. The code is not yet perfect, but I'm reasonably confident about the accuracy of my results. (These figures are for a UP kernel from late last week without WITNESS or INVARIANTS). The median time from entering XentInt to the start of the sio interrupt handler is 61usec. This should be similar for any interrupt handler. I suspect the brain-dead memory interface on the LCA is a significant factor in this. This also implies that the clock interrupt overhead is 15-20% of CPU time - I might try to configure a real stats clock interrupt and see if I can get accurate figures. Once control actually gets to siointr, grabbing the sio mutex takes another 2.7usec (median) - again quite high. Whilst these figures are very high, they would be survivable if it wasn't for the figures to the right of the median... The mean time between XentInt and siointr1() is 223usec. In my sample of 1650 serial interrupts over 4.8 seconds, there are 3 outliers at ~55msec and another 2 at ~7msec. In all, nearly 1% of the samples have a latency exceeding 2msec. (My samples show that multiple clock interrupts occur between when the serial interrupt is received in XentInt() and when it gets handled in siointr1()). It's possible that some of these samples are glitches in my collection code, but the existence of SILO overruns means that the latency can exceed ~2msec. Does anyone have any ideas what could be leading to such ludicrous interrupt latencies? Overall, I suspect I'd be better off ignoring all interrupts except the clock interrupt and polling everything everything else from within the clock interrupt. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 30 16:37:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2E8337B424 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 16:37:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4UNkNR03912 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 16:46:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200105302346.f4UNkNR03912@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: broken loader? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 30 May 2001 16:30:15 PDT." <20010530163015.A52916@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 16:46:23 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I also spent 3 hours the other day testing various patches so DCS could > find the this bug (in an area he did not did not think it was in, wonder > why there was no attribution in the commit log). Thanks for your help with this, David. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 30 17:37:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E789037B422 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 17:37:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA19280; Wed, 30 May 2001 20:37:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4V0bDX54014; Wed, 30 May 2001 20:37:13 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15125.37433.101479.231284@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 20:37:13 -0400 (EDT) To: Peter Jeremy Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Abyssmal interrupt latency with -current In-Reply-To: <20010531093454.X89950@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> References: <20010531093454.X89950@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Peter Jeremy writes: > > Once control actually gets to siointr, grabbing the sio mutex takes > another 2.7usec (median) - again quite high. Perhaps this is so abysmally slow due to critical_enter/exit. They manipulate the IPL and each make a call into palcode, so they are _very_ expensive. You should time just those functions and see. In fact, you really should un-inline them and give iprobe a try... <...> > Does anyone have any ideas what could be leading to such ludicrous > interrupt latencies? Pal + SMPng + painfully slow hardware == ludicrous interrupt latencies. To be fair, its not all SMPng's fault. Alpha interrupt latencies have always left quite a bit to be desired. Pal adds an extra layer of abstraction and slowness between the actual hardware and the OS. There's no way an alpha can be as tight as a platform where the OS has access to the actual hardware. I suspect the multia's osf/1 palcode may be considerably worse than the palcode on most platforms. Consider that the Multia was never designed to run OSF/1; it was supposed to be a glorified Xterm running alpha NT. I seriously doubt that DEC spent much time optimizing the palcode on a low-margin, loss-leading piece of junk that was dog-slow and essentially obsolete the day it was introduced. I should really resurrect my Pamette and actually compare device interrupt latencies for Tru64, -stable and -current on one of our miatas before they get recycled to other departments. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 30 18:18:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 585BA37B422; Wed, 30 May 2001 18:18:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA19683; Wed, 30 May 2001 21:18:13 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4V1Hht54087; Wed, 30 May 2001 21:17:43 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15125.39863.766021.582658@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 21:17:43 -0400 (EDT) To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: broken loader? In-Reply-To: <20010530163015.A52916@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20010527170810.A91713@hub.freebsd.org> <200105280252.f4S2qTA05760@mass.dis.org> <20010530163015.A52916@hub.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David, I, for one, really appreciate all the time you've been spending dealing with alpha breakage in the last few weeks. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 30 20: 2:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2BB37B423; Wed, 30 May 2001 20:02:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (mjacob@beppo [192.67.166.79]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4V32Rg51560; Wed, 30 May 2001 20:02:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 20:02:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: broken loader? In-Reply-To: <15125.39863.766021.582658@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yeah, me too! On Wed, 30 May 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > David, > > I, for one, really appreciate all the time you've been spending > dealing with alpha breakage in the last few weeks. > > Drew > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed May 30 23:57:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1B8137B423 for ; Wed, 30 May 2001 23:57:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4V6vNm57561; Thu, 31 May 2001 08:57:23 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8F08718CE8; Thu, 31 May 2001 08:57:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2F915902; Thu, 31 May 2001 08:57:22 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 08:57:21 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Subject: Re: GCC problem ?? In-Reply-To: <15125.10324.446776.185828@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It really works, thanks Drew Rick On Wed, 30 May 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Date: Wed, 30 May 2001 13:05:24 -0400 (EDT) > From: Andrew Gallatin > To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it > Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: GCC problem ?? > > > More like a gnu-configure-being-to-smart-for-its-own-damned-good problem. > The following appears to work: > > rm files/patch-aj > > > Drew > > Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it writes: > > > > compiling emacs21 port on DPW 500a, FreeBSD 4.3-GENERIC: > > > > configure:4084: checking size of short > > configure:4098: cc -o conftest -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -I/usr/local/include > > -L > > /usr/local/lib -Xlinker -R/usr/local/lib:/usr/libexec conftest.c > > -lut > > il -lxpg4 -lgcc -lc -lgcc /usr/lib/crtend.o 1>&5 > > Segmentation fault - core dumped > > configure: failed program was: > > #line 4087 "configure" > > #include "confdefs.h" > > #include > > main() > > { > > FILE *f=fopen("conftestval", "w"); > > if (!f) exit(1); > > fprintf(f, "%d\n", sizeof(short)); > > exit(0); > > } > > (end of "config.log") > > > > > > thanks > > > > Rick > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 31 1: 9:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f63.law4.hotmail.com [216.33.149.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3492137B423 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 01:09:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brislingf@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 31 May 2001 01:09:26 -0700 Received: from 212.54.64.195 by lw4fd.law4.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 31 May 2001 08:09:25 GMT X-Originating-IP: [212.54.64.195] From: "brisling fk" To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 08:09:25 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 31 May 2001 08:09:26.0060 (UTC) FILETIME=[021D66C0:01C0E9A9] Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is there anyone who have tried to use Freebsd on af Dec alpha server 3000 /3300. Because i would need some help with the installation, because the bios is programmed to use the ms windows nt 4.0 server as the first prioriti. With hope for help Brislingf@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 31 2:30:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27AE137B422 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 02:30:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f4V9UVm62104 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 11:30:31 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D49B518CE8; Thu, 31 May 2001 11:30:30 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0C2515902 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 11:30:30 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 11:30:30 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: include files difference alpha vs. i386 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello I was not able to compile gnome because gnomeapplets failed to compile. It could not find apm_bios.h include file. I copyed that file from a i386 FreeBSD include directory (/usr/include/machine) and the build of the port went fine. Seems like alpha is missing it. Comparing the /usr/include/machine directory between alpha and i386 the one on alpha is about 1/2 smaller in size. Is it a normal thing ?? thank you Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 31 2:54: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from Beta.Midwest.Com (fc-pm6-11.enetis.net [208.141.217.202]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70E5537B422 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 02:53:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bbump@enetis.net) Received: from enetis.net (IDENT:bbump@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Beta.Midwest.Com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4V9u9b04090; Thu, 31 May 2001 03:56:10 -0600 Message-ID: <3B161539.8EB2AE7B@enetis.net> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 03:56:09 -0600 From: Brett Bump X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.18 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: brisling fk , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Booting FreeBSD on 3300s References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, FreeBSD runs very well on my 3300's (thanks to Drew). You can change the boot process by pushing the halt button in (that's the middle one) which will leave you at the SRM prompt. Once there you can change the default operating system: >>>set os_type UNIX I also like my systems to boot to SRM instead of automatically coming up: >>>set auto_action HALT This way I can boot either WindowsNT or FreeBSD from the SRM prompt. You can get back to the Arc firmware (to boot NT) by typing: >>>nt You will most likely want to boot from a FreeBSD cd via: >>>boot dka400 Hope this helps. Brett brisling fk wrote: > Is there anyone who have tried to use Freebsd on af Dec alpha server 3000 > /3300. > Because i would need some help with the installation, because the bios is > programmed to use the ms windows nt 4.0 server as the first prioriti. > > With hope for help > Brislingf@hotmail.com > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 31 10:36:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F62637B422; Thu, 31 May 2001 10:36:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4VHaPG37735; Thu, 31 May 2001 10:36:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 10:36:29 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: gallatin@FreeBSD.org Subject: PCI Interrupt Routing Broken on my Miata Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > gallatin 2001/05/27 15:22:03 PDT > > Modified files: > sys/dev/pci pci.c > sys/alpha/pci pcibus.c > Log: > finally fix intr routing on alphas such as the as500 after months of > breakage: > > - call PCIB_ROUTE_INTERRUPT() regardless of how valid the intline looks. > Some alphas leave garbage in the intline and leave the intr mapping > to OS platform support routines that map slots/buses to intlines > - Down in the alpha pci code, first try platform.pci_intr_route() and > if it doesn't exist or returns garbage, just read the intline out of > config space. > > tested on AS500 (garbage in intline) and UP1000 (PC-like, intline is valid) > > Note that a nice little hack like the APIC_IO section of pci_cfgregread() > is not workable. This is because the calling interface for > alpha_pci_route_interrupt() requires us to figure out the bus/slot/etc > from a device_t. At pci_read_device() time, we don't have a device_t > for the bus/slot/func in question. > > Revision Changes Path > 1.177 +6 -2 src/sys/dev/pci/pci.c > 1.29 +8 -3 src/sys/alpha/pci/pcibus.c This seems to have broken my Miata. Without this the two PCI devices I have (dc0 and isp0) get "IRQ's" 0 and 16 respectively. With this change, both devices are assigned to IRQ 0, except that I think basically isp is still using 16 in hardware, but the OS is just listening on the wrong vector. isp0 keeps timing out during the SCSI probe with mailbox errors and what not. I'll try adding in some printf's to the code either later today or tomorrow to try and narrow it down however. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 31 10:36:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3133037B42C for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 10:36:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4VHaOG37731; Thu, 31 May 2001 10:36:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 10:36:29 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Subject: RE: include files difference alpha vs. i386 Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 31-May-01 Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: > > Hello I was not able to compile gnome because gnomeapplets failed to > compile. It could not find apm_bios.h include file. > I copyed that file from a i386 FreeBSD include directory > (/usr/include/machine) and the build of the port went fine. > Seems like alpha is missing it. > Comparing the /usr/include/machine directory between alpha and i386 > the one on alpha is about 1/2 smaller in size. > Is it a normal thing ?? > > thank you Alpha does not have APM support. It is a bug in Gnome that it requires apm_bios.h for non-i386. > Rick -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 31 10:50:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83FD837B424; Thu, 31 May 2001 10:50:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA02929; Thu, 31 May 2001 13:50:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4VHnn256004; Thu, 31 May 2001 13:49:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15126.33853.27398.524616@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 13:49:49 -0400 (EDT) To: John Baldwin Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCI Interrupt Routing Broken on my Miata In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Baldwin writes: > > This seems to have broken my Miata. Without this the two PCI devices I have > (dc0 and isp0) get "IRQ's" 0 and 16 respectively. With this change, both > devices are assigned to IRQ 0, except that I think basically isp is still using > 16 in hardware, but the OS is just listening on the wrong vector. isp0 keeps > timing out during the SCSI probe with mailbox errors and what not. I'll try > adding in some printf's to the code either later today or tomorrow to try and > narrow it down however. Bizzare. What does the pci probe line say? Can you clip the output of isp0 for failing & non-failing cases, please? Its probably because its behind a ppb.. I really wish we could opt out of this interrupt routing nonsense. Thanks, Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 31 11:22:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A364437B423; Thu, 31 May 2001 11:22:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA03716; Thu, 31 May 2001 14:22:48 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4VIMIs56094; Thu, 31 May 2001 14:22:18 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15126.35802.41704.920301@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 14:22:18 -0400 (EDT) To: John Baldwin Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCI Interrupt Routing Broken on my Miata In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org OK, it turns out that its not as simple as I thought.. pcib_route_interrupt() doesn't using my hack. I had a feeling my hack was too simple. I think what we'll need to do to make all platforms work is to: a) Undo the breakage I just introduced b) Undo the platform changes that msmith made earlier this year when this intr routing nonsense was introduced. By this, I mean that the platform.pci_intr_map and all its implementations come back exactly as they are in -stable c) Have all the chipset read_config routines call alpha_platform_assign_pciintr() in the case of a read of INTLINE alpha_platform_assign_pciintr() conses up cfgregs & calls the relavent platform routine, or returns 255 d) Have have alpha_pci_route_interrupt() call alpha_platform_assign_pciintr(). Opinions? Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 31 11:26: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0347537B423 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 11:25:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo.feral.com [192.67.166.71]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4VIPvg56975 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 11:25:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 11:25:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCI Interrupt Routing Broken on my Miata In-Reply-To: <15126.35802.41704.920301@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > OK, it turns out that its not as simple as I thought.. > pcib_route_interrupt() doesn't using my hack. I had a feeling my hack > was too simple. > > I think what we'll need to do to make all platforms work is to: > > a) Undo the breakage I just introduced > > b) Undo the platform changes that msmith made earlier this year when > this intr routing nonsense was introduced. By this, I mean that the > platform.pci_intr_map and all its implementations come back exactly as > they are in -stable > > c) Have all the chipset read_config routines call > alpha_platform_assign_pciintr() in the case of a read of INTLINE > alpha_platform_assign_pciintr() conses up cfgregs & calls the relavent > platform routine, or returns 255 > > > d) Have have alpha_pci_route_interrupt() call > alpha_platform_assign_pciintr(). > > Opinions? #d, yes- because it's only the specific platforms that know the right thing to do. Look at NetBSD. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 31 12:14: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from schottky.phys.ksu.edu (schottky.phys.ksu.edu [129.130.5.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 47C6C37B422 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 12:14:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chriss@phys.ksu.edu) Received: (qmail 3239 invoked by uid 962); 31 May 2001 18:02:40 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 31 May 2001 18:02:40 -0000 Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 13:02:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Casey To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: ccc Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a 4.3-STABLE april 27 xp1000 500Mhz machine, and have been trying to sort out ccc. I am having all sorts of trouble with what I hope is just include path problems trying to compile things more complex than hello world. I dont remember installing ccc, and seem to remember reading in the list that it was part of the regular alpha install. I can't seem to find includes that make it happy. It complains about /usr/include/*.h, I've tried to point it to different places, and the comp.conf has the /usr/lib/compaq/ccc... /include in it, but I cant seem to make it happy. What does it want, its own includes, the linux-devel includes in /compat/linux, something I don't even know about? We are trying to run some decent sized computations and gcc is giving us binaries that end up running about the same as a sun U10 300Mhz. I'm trying to compile pari-2.1.1, but have the same problem with just about anything I try. I've looked at http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin/compaq_ccc_instructions but I cant seem to find anything there that looks different than what I have. Thanks for any direction you can point me in Chris Casey Unix System Administrator KSU Physics Department To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 31 12:37:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDA0A37B423 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 12:37:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@[206.40.252.115]) by relay.nuxi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4VJbgl68035; Thu, 31 May 2001 12:37:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f4VJbfc57938; Thu, 31 May 2001 12:37:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 12:37:41 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Chris Casey Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ccc Message-ID: <20010531123741.A57907@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from chriss@phys.ksu.edu on Thu, May 31, 2001 at 01:02:40PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, May 31, 2001 at 01:02:40PM -0500, Chris Casey wrote: > I dont remember installing ccc, and seem to remember reading in the list > that it was part of the regular alpha install. It is not. > What does it want, its own includes, the linux-devel includes in > /compat/linux, something I don't even know about? Just install every ccc-related bit you can find and install the compaq-cc port. > http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin/compaq_ccc_instructions Drew, could you replace the ccc install parts of that document to point people to the FreeBSD port? -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 31 12:46: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC52937B422 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 12:46:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05507; Thu, 31 May 2001 15:46:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4VJjYH56247; Thu, 31 May 2001 15:45:34 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15126.40798.87017.773205@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 15:45:34 -0400 (EDT) To: Chris Casey Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ccc In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chris Casey writes: > > http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin/compaq_ccc_instructions > > but I cant seem to find anything there that looks different than what I > have. That was WAY out of date. To get ccc installed: a) Make sure you do _not_ have linux_devtools installed. b) Install /usr/ports/lang/compaq-cc Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 31 12:47: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2E5837B422; Thu, 31 May 2001 12:46:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA05548; Thu, 31 May 2001 15:46:58 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4VJkST56250; Thu, 31 May 2001 15:46:28 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15126.40852.872786.919117@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 15:46:28 -0400 (EDT) To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Chris Casey , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ccc In-Reply-To: <20010531123741.A57907@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20010531123741.A57907@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien writes: > > http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin/compaq_ccc_instructions > > Drew, could you replace the ccc install parts of that document to point > people to the FreeBSD port? I just did. I have a bad history of leaving obsolete junk sitting around. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 31 14:30:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AADF37B424 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 14:30:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo.feral.com [192.67.166.71]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4VLU3g57947 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 14:30:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 14:30:03 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: -current buildworld Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anybody been able to successfully do a buildworld on alpha for the last several days for -current? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 31 14:36: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D54A337B424 for ; Thu, 31 May 2001 14:36:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4VLZdG44227; Thu, 31 May 2001 14:35:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 14:35:46 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Matthew Jacob Subject: RE: -current buildworld Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 31-May-01 Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > Has anybody been able to successfully do a buildworld on alpha for the last > several days for -current? Will be trying tonight. I've spent all day chasing my tail it seems. I started off the day with top of the tree kernels panic'ing after mounting root but trashing the console before dying so that I couldn't see the panic message. I've tried kernels now from every day since the 27th up through teh 30th and can't reproduce this now. I'm trying anotehr top of the tree kernel right now to see if this problem has mysteriously "gone away". *sigh* -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 31 14:40:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 429FB37B42C; Thu, 31 May 2001 14:40:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from zeppo.feral.com (IDENT:mjacob@zeppo.feral.com [192.67.166.71]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f4VLetg58011; Thu, 31 May 2001 14:40:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 14:40:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: John Baldwin Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: -current buildworld In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org That's where I was several days ago. I now no longer panic, but I cannot get past binutils bootstrapping. I've lost too many hair roots over it already. > > On 31-May-01 Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > > > Has anybody been able to successfully do a buildworld on alpha for the last > > several days for -current? > > Will be trying tonight. I've spent all day chasing my tail it seems. I > started off the day with top of the tree kernels panic'ing after mounting root > but trashing the console before dying so that I couldn't see the panic message. > I've tried kernels now from every day since the 27th up through teh 30th and > can't reproduce this now. I'm trying anotehr top of the tree kernel right now > to see if this problem has mysteriously "gone away". *sigh* > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 31 14:48:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B6BA37B43C; Thu, 31 May 2001 14:48:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA08158; Thu, 31 May 2001 17:48:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f4VLmEr56603; Thu, 31 May 2001 17:48:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15126.48158.804709.839522@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 17:48:14 -0400 (EDT) To: John Baldwin Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PCI Interrupt Routing Broken on my Miata In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've just backed this out. Note that all alphas that use per-platform interrupt mapping are broken again (as they have been for several months) while I work on a better fix. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu May 31 14:54:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from meow.osd.bsdi.com (meow.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43BCD37B422; Thu, 31 May 2001 14:54:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@jhb-laptop.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.241]) by meow.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4VLs3G44630; Thu, 31 May 2001 14:54:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 31 May 2001 14:54:11 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: John Baldwin Subject: RE: -current buildworld Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.org, Matthew Jacob Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 31-May-01 John Baldwin wrote: > > On 31-May-01 Matthew Jacob wrote: >> >> >> Has anybody been able to successfully do a buildworld on alpha for the last >> several days for -current? > > Will be trying tonight. I've spent all day chasing my tail it seems. I > started off the day with top of the tree kernels panic'ing after mounting > root > but trashing the console before dying so that I couldn't see the panic > message. > I've tried kernels now from every day since the 27th up through teh 30th and > can't reproduce this now. I'm trying anotehr top of the tree kernel right > now > to see if this problem has mysteriously "gone away". *sigh* Well, it works now. *sigh* I'll update my source to the absolute latest and greatest and then kick off a buildowrld. I can update the dual rawhide while I'm at it as well. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Jun 1 3:18:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F6E37B422 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 03:18:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f51AIUm96671 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:18:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0460718CE8; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:18:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id C366F15902 for ; Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:18:29 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 12:18:29 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: compiling ports. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have seen that the default option for alpha to compile the ports is -mcpu=ev4. Does exisit an option ev56 (Miata for eample). And if it exist should it improove the speed of the program being compiled ?? Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Jun 2 12:28:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from relay.nuxi.com (nuxi.cs.ucdavis.edu [169.237.7.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 571E637B423 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:28:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@nuxi.ucdavis.edu) Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (root@trang.muxi.com [206.40.252.115] (may be forged)) by relay.nuxi.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f52JSJl83440 for ; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:28:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f52JSJh82755 for Freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:28:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2001 12:28:08 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: -current kernel still considered dangerous Message-ID: <20010602122808.A82678@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Entering kernel.ko at 0xfffffc000032d360... FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT #7: Fri Jun 1 19:24:14 PDT 2001 rootk@phuong.nuxi.com:/files/Current/sys/compile/DS20 ..snip.. Starting background filesystem checks Sat Jun 2 08:58:41 PDT 2001 fatal kernel trap: trap entry = 0x2 (memory management fault) faulting va = 0x0 type = access violation cause = load instructon pc = 0xfffffc00003bf8e4 ra = 0xfffffc00003bbc30 sp = 0xfffffe001ff3f9f8 usp = 0x11ff7560 curproc = 0xfffffe001fef1bc0 pid = 464, comm = tcsh Stopped at _mtx_unlock_sleep+0x104: ldq t1,0(s1) <0x0> db> trace _mtx_unlock_sleep() at _mtx_unlock_sleep+0x104 lockmgr() at lockmgr+0xf0 vm_map_find() at vm_map_find+0x8c rol() at rol+0x614 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message