From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Sep 9 5:55:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from amsfep14-int.chello.nl (amsfep14-int.chello.nl [213.46.243.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B976237B403 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 05:55:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from delius.kettenis.local ([213.93.77.104]) by amsfep14-int.chello.nl (InterMail vM.5.01.03.06 201-253-122-118-106-20010523) with ESMTP id <20010909125123.CFQA25701.amsfep14-int.chello.nl@delius.kettenis.local>; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 14:51:23 +0200 Received: (from kettenis@localhost) by delius.kettenis.local (8.10.1/8.10.1) id f89CsrL00394; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 14:54:53 +0200 Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 14:54:53 +0200 From: Mark Kettenis Message-Id: <200109091254.f89CsrL00394@delius.kettenis.local> To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Cc: gdb@sources.redhat.com Subject: GDB backtraces on FreeBSD/Alpha Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org GDB backtraces have become seriously broken on -current. #0 main (argc=1, argv=0x11ffba80) at /home/kettenis/CVS/src/gdb/testsuite/gdb.base/return2.c:78 #1 0x120000678 in _start () #2 0x160017404 in _rtld_start () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #3 0x160017404 in _rtld_start () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #4 0x160017404 in _rtld_start () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #5 0x160017404 in _rtld_start () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #6 0x160017404 in _rtld_start () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #7 0x160017404 in _rtld_start () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #8 0x160017404 in _rtld_start () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #9 0x160017404 in _rtld_start () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #10 0x160017404 in _rtld_start () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #11 0x160017404 in _rtld_start () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #12 0x160017404 in _rtld_start () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #13 0x160017404 in _rtld_start () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #14 0x160017404 in _rtld_start () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #15 0x160017404 in _rtld_start () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #16 0x160017404 in _rtld_start () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #17 0x160017404 in _rtld_start () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #18 0x160017404 in _rtld_start () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #19 0x160017404 in _rtld_start () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #20 0x160017404 in _rtld_start () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 #21 0x160017404 in _rtld_start () from /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 which goes on and on until GDB's backtrace limit is reached. This is pretty annoying and prevents me from running GDB's testsuite. Backtraces work as expected on older executables. The difference between these older executables and the ones that produce these bogus backtraces is the presence of an .mdebug section. This section is absent from the newer executables. If present, GDB uses the info from the .mdebug section to decide whether a frame corresponds to a function in the object file that contains the entry point for the program, and terminates the backtrace if it does. Obviously this no longer happens with the newer executables. It is important to realize that the current system compiler still generates bogus debug information. So I'm actually only aiming at making things work with GCC 3.0.x. There are a couple of solutions for solving this problem: * Make sure executables get back the .mdebug section. However, it's not clear to me why they lost those sections in the first place. This is probably related to some changes in the toolchain, or in the way crt1.o is built. Since I think that not emitting .mdebug unless the user specifically asked for debug information is actually the right behaviour, this probably isn't the right solution. * Compile crt1.o with (minimal) debugging information. With the current compiler this means we would get back the .mdebug section (and the minimal debug info generated by -g1 doesn't seem to be buggy). With GCC 3.0.x (when it becomes the system compiler for -current in the future) we would get DWARF2 info, and I'm not entirely sure whether that works with the current GDB. If it doesn't it can be fixed in GDB. In that case using the current system compiler with -gdwarf-21 might also work. The drawback of this approach is that all programs have to carry along a small amount of debug information. Unless you strip them of course. * Make sure the startup code in crt1.o clears the frame pointer. This is what Linux/Alpha does. IMHO, this would be the best way to solve this issue, since it is very robust. However, it would involve rewriting (parts of) crt1.c in assembler. Thanks, Mark To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Sep 9 6:54:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from admin.vt.com (admin.vt.com [204.117.188.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BB4137B40B for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 06:54:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diego1 ([208.246.62.54]) by admin.vt.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id IAA17646; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 08:54:18 -0500 (CDT) From: "Earthoid WAPSearch" To: Cc: Subject: RE: 5.0 20010721-CURRENT LAN/ WAN problems... Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 09:02:27 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20010908230206.A19391@dragon.nuxi.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes, the SRM does recognize the NIC. P00>>> show dev polling tulip0 (DECchip 21140-AA) slot 2, bus 2 PCI, hose 0 Starting Auto-Negotiate ewa0: link up : Negotiated 100BaseTX: full duplex ewa0.0.0.2002.0 00-06-2B-00-06-9F Auto-Negotiate Diego -----Original Message----- From: David O'Brien [mailto:dev-null@NUXI.com] Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 1:02 AM To: Earthoid WAPSearch Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 5.0 20010721-CURRENT LAN/ WAN problems... On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 12:36:29AM -0500, Earthoid WAPSearch wrote: > I have been running FreeBSD 5.0 20010721-CURRENT on a AS5305. I have > encountered some odd behavior between my DEC 21140-AA NIC and 5.0-Current. > It seems from all the research, trial and error, that there is something not > right. Does SRM reconize this NIC? If so, then the SRM settings can affect the proper negotiation of the card. At least this is the case on a DS-20. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Sep 9 8:24:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10B7237B403 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 08:24:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05625 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 17:24:22 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.4) id f89FOLl03885 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 17:24:21 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 17:24:21 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Please test: 4.4-RC4 ISO image for Alpha now available Message-ID: <20010909172421.A3869@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-RC X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alpha-hackers, Please check http://www.freebsd.org/~wilko/testhw.html for the test status of this RC4 snapshot. Especially if you own slightly exotic hardware your input is much appreciated. I myself will take on DS10 and Miata GL, and time permitting DS20 and AS8400. Wilko ----- Forwarded message from Jordan Hubbard ----- Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 18:11:26 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard Subject: 4.4-RC4 ISO image for Alpha now available To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sorry for the delay, but you may now also find: ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/alpha/ISO-IMAGES/4.4rc4-install.iso For installation testing the Alpha platform. Alpha users, please test! This image contains the XFree86 and packages collections from 4.3-RELEASE, but this was deemed better than nothing and the Alpha build cluster seems to be "in transition" at the moment, so we may have to continue using the older packages with 4.4. The XFree86 bits are essentially unchanged, so there's no penalty (that I know of) in using the bits from 4.3. Thanks! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ----- End forwarded message ----- -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Sep 9 8:30:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from admin.vt.com (admin.vt.com [204.117.188.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3194337B406 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 08:30:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diego1 ([208.246.62.54]) by admin.vt.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id KAA20239 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 10:29:46 -0500 (CDT) From: "Earthoid WAPSearch" To: Subject: RE: 4.4-RC4 ISO image for Alpha now available Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 10:37:54 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mr. Hubbard, I have found a boot bug with the new 4.4-RC4 mfsroot.flp I am testing on a AS5305 (noperiph:sym0:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset detected. sym1:0: ERROR (81:0) (0-0-0) (0/7) @ (script 140:00000000) sym1: script cmd = 808cfd02 sym1: regdump: ca 00 00 05 47 00 00 0f 00 08 00 00 00 0a 00 e0 8e 8f 20 ff ff ff Thus far the only kernel that boots up the AS5305 is the 5.0 20010721 kernel It seems to me that I have a perfect bug-detecting machine. Thus far the AS5305 will not boot on anything: but 5.0 . Zero boot on NetBSD , FreeBSD 4.0x Regards, Diego Montalvo --- Jordan Hubbard wrote: > ATTACHMENT part TEXT message/rfc822 > To: stable@freebsd.org > Subject: 4.4-RC4 ISO image for Alpha now available > Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 18:11:26 -0700 > From: Jordan Hubbard > > Sorry for the delay, but you may now also find: > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/alpha/ISO-IMAGES/4.4rc4-install.i so > > For installation testing the Alpha platform. Alpha > users, please > test! This image contains the XFree86 and packages > collections from > 4.3-RELEASE, but this was deemed better than nothing > and the Alpha > build cluster seems to be "in transition" at the > moment, so we may > have to continue using the older packages with 4.4. > The XFree86 bits > are essentially unchanged, so there's no penalty > (that I know of) in > using the bits from 4.3. Thanks! > > - Jordan > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Sep 9 8:30:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B43BC37B405 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 08:30:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 15g6Xl-00087r-00; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 17:30:45 +0200 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f89EWsH57250 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 16:32:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: FW: cvs commit: src/sys/alpha/alpha machdep.c src/sys/alpha/osf1 Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 14:32:47 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <9nfuif$1nsh$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> References: Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Baldwin wrote: > This should fix the mtx_assert() panic on the proc lock with osendsig() in > linux emulation that Christian "Waddy" (sorry, I've probably toasted the > spelling) reported. Confirmed. Compiling ksh93 or gtar with ccc will not panic the machine anymore. Thanks! -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Sep 9 10:10:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293B137B401 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 10:10:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA19591 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 19:10:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.4) id f89HAsi04298 for freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 19:10:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 19:10:54 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Please test: 4.4-RC4 ISO image for Alpha now available Message-ID: <20010909191054.A4279@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20010909172421.A3869@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010909172421.A3869@freebie.xs4all.nl>; from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl on Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 05:24:21PM +0200 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-RC X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 05:24:21PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: I am getting /: write failed, file system is full while navigating the sysinstall menus. There are gunzip messages in between. Anybody else seen this too? This is on my Miata MX5. Wilko > Alpha-hackers, > > Please check http://www.freebsd.org/~wilko/testhw.html for the test status > of this RC4 snapshot. Especially if you own slightly exotic hardware > your input is much appreciated. > > I myself will take on DS10 and Miata GL, and time permitting DS20 and > AS8400. > > Wilko -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Sep 9 10:14:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp7.xs4all.nl (smtp7.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A16937B401 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 10:14:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp7.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA04628 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 19:14:45 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.4) id f89HEYv04326 for freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 19:14:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 19:14:34 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Please test: 4.4-RC4 ISO image for Alpha now available Message-ID: <20010909191434.A4311@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20010909172421.A3869@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20010909191054.A4279@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010909191054.A4279@freebie.xs4all.nl>; from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl on Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 07:10:54PM +0200 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-RC X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 07:10:54PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Sun, Sep 09, 2001 at 05:24:21PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > I am getting > > /: write failed, file system is full > > while navigating the sysinstall menus. There are gunzip messages in between. > Anybody else seen this too? > > This is on my Miata MX5. / 64MB. It happens on a DS10 / 256MB too. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Sep 9 16: 4:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D15B637B40A for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 16:04:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f89N4AT48399 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 16:04:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Fw: Re: Bcc: 4.4-RC4 ISO image for Alpha now available X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Multipart/Mixed; boundary="--Next_Part(Sun_Sep__9_16:04:09_2001_179)--" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010909160410F.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Sun, 09 Sep 2001 16:04:10 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 100 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----Next_Part(Sun_Sep__9_16:04:09_2001_179)-- Content-Type: Message/Rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Return-Path: Return-Path: Received: from mx2.freebsd.org (mx2.freebsd.org [216.136.204.119]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f89FPOT47343 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 08:25:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmontal2@yahoo.com) Received: from hub.freebsd.org (hub.freebsd.org [216.136.204.18]) by mx2.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F9F355C06 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 08:25:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmontal2@yahoo.com) Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 5841D37B406; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 08:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Delivered-To: jkh@freebsd.org Received: from web13404.mail.yahoo.com (web13404.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 319BC37B405 for ; Sun, 9 Sep 2001 08:25:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010909152541.7935.qmail@web13404.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [208.246.62.54] by web13404.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 09 Sep 2001 08:25:41 PDT Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2001 08:25:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Diego Montalvo Subject: Re: Bcc: 4.4-RC4 ISO image for Alpha now available To: Jordan Hubbard In-Reply-To: <20010908181126Q.jkh@freebsd.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mr. Hubbard, I have found a boot bug with the new 4.4-RC4 mfsroot.flp I am testing on a AS5305 (noperiph:sym0:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset detected. sym1:0: ERROR (81:0) (0-0-0) (0/7) @ (script 140:00000000) sym1: script cmd = 808cfd02 sym1: regdump: ca 00 00 05 47 00 00 0f 00 08 00 00 00 0a 00 e0 8e 8f 20 ff ff ff Thus far the only kernel that boots up the AS5305 is the 5.0 20010721 kernel It seems to me that I have a perfect bug-detecting machine. Thus far the AS5305 will not boot on anything: but 5.0 . Zero boot on NetBSD , FreeBSD 4.0x Regards, Diego Montalvo --- Jordan Hubbard wrote: > ATTACHMENT part TEXT message/rfc822 > To: stable@freebsd.org > Subject: 4.4-RC4 ISO image for Alpha now available > Date: Sat, 08 Sep 2001 18:11:26 -0700 > From: Jordan Hubbard > > Sorry for the delay, but you may now also find: > > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/alpha/ISO-IMAGES/4.4rc4-install.iso > > For installation testing the Alpha platform. Alpha > users, please > test! This image contains the XFree86 and packages > collections from > 4.3-RELEASE, but this was deemed better than nothing > and the Alpha > build cluster seems to be "in transition" at the > moment, so we may > have to continue using the older packages with 4.4. > The XFree86 bits > are essentially unchanged, so there's no penalty > (that I know of) in > using the bits from 4.3. Thanks! > > - Jordan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email alerts & NEW webcam video instant messaging with Yahoo! Messenger http://im.yahoo.com ----Next_Part(Sun_Sep__9_16:04:09_2001_179)---- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Sep 10 5:29:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp4.xs4all.nl (smtp4.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F5237B403; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 05:29:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webmail2.xs4all.nl (webmail2.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.35] (may be forged)) by smtp4.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA26757; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:29:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by webmail2.xs4all.nl (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f8ACR1u24331; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:27:01 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@xs4all.nl) X-Authentication-Warning: webmail2.xs4all.nl: nobody set sender to wkb@xs4all.nl using -f Received: from 161.114.88.74 (SquirrelMail authenticated user wkb) by webmail.xs4all.nl with HTTP; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:27:01 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <5895.161.114.88.74.1000124821.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:27:01 +0200 (CEST) Subject: 4.4RC4: out of space on / during install From: "Wilko Bulte" To: Cc: X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.1.3 [cvs]) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have sofar successfully installed the 4.4RC4 on DS10, DS20, Miata MX5 and TurboLaser 8400. But all of them report: write / filesystem full during sysinstall. It is actually gunzip causing this (according to VTY2). Does this mean mfsroot has become too small?? Install seems to work OK otherwise, error or not. Wilko -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Sep 10 5:50:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFD6237B40E; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 05:50:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA26183; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 08:50:28 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f8ACnxd65174; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 08:49:59 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15260.46839.218431.908877@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 08:49:59 -0400 (EDT) To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fw: Re: Bcc: 4.4-RC4 ISO image for Alpha now available In-Reply-To: <20010909160410F.jkh@freebsd.org> References: <20010909160410F.jkh@freebsd.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org He's running a multi-hose machine (4100 derivative) with a sym card on a hose other than zero. This is a known problem due to the hacky way we deal with multiple hoses in -stable. Its not a problem particular to this release. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Sep 10 6:30: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F22B37B406 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 06:30:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8ADU1330669; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 06:30:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF7B37B403 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 06:22:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8ADM6g29669; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 06:22:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko) Message-Id: <200109101322.f8ADM6g29669@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 06:22:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Wilko Bulte Reply-To: Wilko Bulte To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: alpha/30483: TurboLaser zs0 console device is missing from MAKEDEV 'std' devic Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30483 >Category: alpha >Synopsis: TurboLaser zs0 console device is missing from MAKEDEV 'std' devic >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-alpha >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Sep 10 06:30:00 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Wilko Bulte >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-RC4 Alpha >Organization: The FreeBSD Project >Environment: Alpha TurboLaser AS8400 >Description: The /dev/zs0 (serial console device for big-iron Alphas) is missing from the 'std' devices that sysinstall creates using /dev/MAKEDEV >How-To-Repeat: Obvious >Fix: add 'sh MAKEDEV zs0' to the list of 'std' devices. Like it is already there for 'fixit' >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: es To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Sep 10 6:46: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp6.xs4all.nl (smtp6.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EF6D37B407 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 06:45:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from webmail2.xs4all.nl (webmail2.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.35] (may be forged)) by smtp6.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08778 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 15:45:39 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by webmail2.xs4all.nl (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f8ADhCa30993; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 15:43:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb@xs4all.nl) X-Authentication-Warning: webmail2.xs4all.nl: nobody set sender to wkb@xs4all.nl using -f Received: from 161.114.88.74 (SquirrelMail authenticated user wkb) by webmail.xs4all.nl with HTTP; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 15:43:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <28655.161.114.88.74.1000129392.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 15:43:12 +0200 (CEST) Subject: Owners of Tsunami-based Alphas please test RC4 floppy access From: "Wilko Bulte" To: X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.1.3 [cvs]) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Tsunami owners please (re)-test the 4.4RC4 floppy access. Using 4.4RC4 on: - DS10: floppy read/write does not work, read fails (tar tf on a known-good tar floppy displays nothing), fdformat reports errors on each block, tar cf does not produce anything readable on another system - DS20: locks up solid on fdformat -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte http://www.FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Sep 10 6:50: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 973A237B408 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 06:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8ADo1n68864; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 06:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB0A037B407 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 06:40:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8ADeqh32716; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 06:40:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko) Message-Id: <200109101340.f8ADeqh32716@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 06:40:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Wilko Bulte Reply-To: Wilko Bulte To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: alpha/30485: out of diskspace errors on 4.4RC4 Alpha during sysinstall Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30485 >Category: alpha >Synopsis: out of diskspace errors on 4.4RC4 Alpha during sysinstall >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-alpha >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Sep 10 06:50:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Wilko Bulte >Release: FreeBSD 4.4RC4 Alpha >Organization: The FreeBSD Project >Environment: Any Alpha will do. Observed on DS10, DS20, Miata, TurboLaser >Description: Boot from install cd. During sysinstall gunzip reports out of space on / >How-To-Repeat: See description >Fix: ENOCLUE >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Sep 10 7: 0: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 345E837B40A for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 07:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8AE01t35424; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 07:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913EE37B405 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 06:59:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8ADxbP33022; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 06:59:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko) Message-Id: <200109101359.f8ADxbP33022@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 06:59:37 -0700 (PDT) From: Wilko Bulte Reply-To: Wilko Bulte To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: alpha/30487: Floppy access on AlphaServer DS20 solid locks machine Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30487 >Category: alpha >Synopsis: Floppy access on AlphaServer DS20 solid locks machine >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-alpha >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Sep 10 07:00:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Wilko Bulte >Release: FreeBSD 4.4RC4 Alpha >Organization: The FreeBSD Project >Environment: DS20 with 4.4RC4 >Description: fdformat /dev/fd0.1440 produces solid machine lockup. No response to keyboard anymore. Floppy LED remains lit. >How-To-Repeat: See above >Fix: Not known. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Sep 10 7: 0:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 115FF37B407 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 07:00:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8AE01Z35415; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 07:00:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4A2E37B403 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 06:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8ADq7483478; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 06:52:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wilko) Message-Id: <200109101352.f8ADq7483478@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 06:52:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Wilko Bulte Reply-To: Wilko Bulte To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: alpha/30486: AlphaServer DS10 floppy access is broken Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 30486 >Category: alpha >Synopsis: AlphaServer DS10 floppy access is broken >Confidential: no >Severity: serious >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-alpha >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Sep 10 07:00:00 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Wilko Bulte >Release: FreeBSD 4.4-RC4 Alpha >Organization: The FreeBSD Project >Environment: Alphaserver DS10 with 4.4RC4 >Description: fdformat reports nothing but bad blocks on known-good floppy. tar tf on known good tar floppy reports nothing tar cf on known good floppy does not produce a readable (on another FreeBSD machine) tar archive >How-To-Repeat: See above >Fix: ? >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Sep 10 9: 7:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from switch2.switchpwr.com (switch1.switchpwr.com [12.14.48.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B9937B407 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 09:07:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from switchpwr.com (switch1.switchpwr.com [12.14.48.19]) by switch2.switchpwr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f8AG4dD18194 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 12:04:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B9CE4F6.9075765B@switchpwr.com> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:06:14 +0000 From: mel kravitz Organization: switching power inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; NetBSD 1.5U alpha) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: 4.4rc4-install.iso a winner here. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Using 4.4rc4-install.iso image on UP2000+ dual installs just fine. I used cdrecord on my as1000a running NetBSD to burn the .iso image. Any one running netscape on 5.0-current? If so what am i doing wrong? -Mel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Sep 10 9:49:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D64AE37B406 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 09:49:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f8AGkLT51596; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 09:46:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) To: wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.4RC4: out of space on / during install In-Reply-To: <5895.161.114.88.74.1000124821.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> References: <5895.161.114.88.74.1000124821.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010910094621D.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 09:46:21 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 32 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hurm, what phase of the installation do you see this in? When a doc file is expanded, I assume? There really aren't that many places where sysinstall writes into the MFS root. - Jordan From: "Wilko Bulte" Subject: 4.4RC4: out of space on / during install Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:27:01 +0200 (CEST) > I have sofar successfully installed the 4.4RC4 on DS10, DS20, Miata MX5 > and TurboLaser 8400. > > But all of them report: write / filesystem full during sysinstall. > It is actually gunzip causing this (according to VTY2). > > Does this mean mfsroot has become too small?? > > Install seems to work OK otherwise, error or not. > > Wilko > -- > | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: > wilko@FreeBSD.org > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte > http://www.FreeBSD.org > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Sep 10 11:39:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.xs4all.nl (smtp1.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E512437B406; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 11:39:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp1.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA16817; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:39:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.4) id f8AIdWE00583; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:39:32 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:39:32 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.4RC4: out of space on / during install Message-ID: <20010910203932.C505@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <5895.161.114.88.74.1000124821.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> <20010910094621D.jkh@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010910094621D.jkh@freebsd.org>; from jkh@freebsd.org on Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 09:46:21AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-RC X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 09:46:21AM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: Urm indeed. It already happens upon sysinstall displaying it's initial menu screen. Are the screens compressed maybe? [I know next to nothing about the internal workings of sysinstall..] I was definitely not reading any docs [I write docs, I don't read 'm] Wilko > Hurm, what phase of the installation do you see this in? When > a doc file is expanded, I assume? There really aren't that many > places where sysinstall writes into the MFS root. > > - Jordan > > From: "Wilko Bulte" > Subject: 4.4RC4: out of space on / during install > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:27:01 +0200 (CEST) > > > I have sofar successfully installed the 4.4RC4 on DS10, DS20, Miata MX5 > > and TurboLaser 8400. > > > > But all of them report: write / filesystem full during sysinstall. > > It is actually gunzip causing this (according to VTY2). > > > > Does this mean mfsroot has become too small?? > > > > Install seems to work OK otherwise, error or not. > > > > Wilko > > -- > > | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: > > wilko@FreeBSD.org > > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte > > http://www.FreeBSD.org > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Sep 10 11:40:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8FDFD37B40A for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 11:40:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA17159; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:40:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.4) id f8AIeIs00609; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:40:18 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:40:18 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: mel kravitz Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.4rc4-install.iso a winner here. Message-ID: <20010910204018.D505@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <3B9CE4F6.9075765B@switchpwr.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B9CE4F6.9075765B@switchpwr.com>; from melk@switchpwr.com on Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 04:06:14PM +0000 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-RC X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 04:06:14PM +0000, mel kravitz wrote: Any notices of sysinstall about running out of space on / on the mfsroot ? W/ > Using 4.4rc4-install.iso image on UP2000+ dual installs just fine. I > used cdrecord on my as1000a running NetBSD to burn the .iso image. > Any one running netscape on 5.0-current? If so what am i doing wrong? > -Mel > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Sep 10 12:53:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A05E137B405 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 12:53:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f8AJrBT52392; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 12:53:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) To: wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.4RC4: out of space on / during install In-Reply-To: <20010910203932.C505@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <5895.161.114.88.74.1000124821.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> <20010910094621D.jkh@freebsd.org> <20010910203932.C505@freebie.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010910125311P.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 12:53:11 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 65 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org All the docs are individually compressed to save space (well, to make them fit at all) and uncompressed as needed. Since the various menus also have F1 help screens, merely visiting a menu can cause a doc file to be uncompressed. Sounds like we're really up against the wall on the mfsroot image again for the alpha. I don't think it's going to get fixed for 4.4-RELEASE, but we should definitely revisit this issue post-release. - Jordan From: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: 4.4RC4: out of space on / during install Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:39:32 +0200 > On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 09:46:21AM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > Urm indeed. > > It already happens upon sysinstall displaying it's initial menu screen. > > Are the screens compressed maybe? [I know next to nothing about the internal > workings of sysinstall..] > > I was definitely not reading any docs [I write docs, I don't read 'm] > > Wilko > > > > Hurm, what phase of the installation do you see this in? When > > a doc file is expanded, I assume? There really aren't that many > > places where sysinstall writes into the MFS root. > > > > - Jordan > > > > From: "Wilko Bulte" > > Subject: 4.4RC4: out of space on / during install > > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:27:01 +0200 (CEST) > > > > > I have sofar successfully installed the 4.4RC4 on DS10, DS20, Miata MX5 > > > and TurboLaser 8400. > > > > > > But all of them report: write / filesystem full during sysinstall. > > > It is actually gunzip causing this (according to VTY2). > > > > > > Does this mean mfsroot has become too small?? > > > > > > Install seems to work OK otherwise, error or not. > > > > > > Wilko > > > -- > > > | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: > > > wilko@FreeBSD.org > > > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte > > > http://www.FreeBSD.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > ---end of quoted text--- > > -- > | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Sep 10 13:14:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7F9037B407; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 13:14:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA13287; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:14:15 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.4) id f8AKEFO00555; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:14:15 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:14:15 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.4RC4: out of space on / during install Message-ID: <20010910221415.B472@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <5895.161.114.88.74.1000124821.squirrel@webmail.xs4all.nl> <20010910094621D.jkh@freebsd.org> <20010910203932.C505@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20010910125311P.jkh@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010910125311P.jkh@freebsd.org>; from jkh@freebsd.org on Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 12:53:11PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-RC X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 12:53:11PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: I see. My guess was not too bad then as far as the docs went. Hmm. How about me putting an entry in the 4.4 relnotes? There are no ill effects that I can see. Maybe a seperate mfs /tmp might help? W/ > All the docs are individually compressed to save space (well, to make > them fit at all) and uncompressed as needed. Since the various menus > also have F1 help screens, merely visiting a menu can cause a doc file > to be uncompressed. Sounds like we're really up against the wall on > the mfsroot image again for the alpha. I don't think it's going to > get fixed for 4.4-RELEASE, but we should definitely revisit this issue > post-release. > > - Jordan > > From: Wilko Bulte > Subject: Re: 4.4RC4: out of space on / during install > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 20:39:32 +0200 > > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 09:46:21AM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > > > Urm indeed. > > > > It already happens upon sysinstall displaying it's initial menu screen. > > > > Are the screens compressed maybe? [I know next to nothing about the internal > > workings of sysinstall..] > > > > I was definitely not reading any docs [I write docs, I don't read 'm] > > > > Wilko > > > > > > > Hurm, what phase of the installation do you see this in? When > > > a doc file is expanded, I assume? There really aren't that many > > > places where sysinstall writes into the MFS root. > > > > > > - Jordan > > > > > > From: "Wilko Bulte" > > > Subject: 4.4RC4: out of space on / during install > > > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:27:01 +0200 (CEST) > > > > > > > I have sofar successfully installed the 4.4RC4 on DS10, DS20, Miata MX5 > > > > and TurboLaser 8400. > > > > > > > > But all of them report: write / filesystem full during sysinstall. > > > > It is actually gunzip causing this (according to VTY2). > > > > > > > > Does this mean mfsroot has become too small?? > > > > > > > > Install seems to work OK otherwise, error or not. > > > > > > > > Wilko > > > > -- > > > > | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: > > > > wilko@FreeBSD.org > > > > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte > > > > http://www.FreeBSD.org > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > > ---end of quoted text--- > > > > -- > > | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org > > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Sep 10 14:12:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from winston.freebsd.org (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C8AF37B401 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:12:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f8ALAOT52748; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:10:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@freebsd.org) To: wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.4RC4: out of space on / during install In-Reply-To: <20010910221415.B472@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20010910203932.C505@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20010910125311P.jkh@freebsd.org> <20010910221415.B472@freebie.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010910141024T.jkh@freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:10:24 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 21 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: 4.4RC4: out of space on / during install Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:14:15 +0200 > On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 12:53:11PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > I see. My guess was not too bad then as far as the docs went. > > Hmm. How about me putting an entry in the 4.4 relnotes? There are no > ill effects that I can see. No objections here! > Maybe a seperate mfs /tmp might help? Hmmm. That's not the worst idea I've heard today. Do we still have any dreams of installing on <16MB machines, or have those firmly died by now? :) I suppose we could also special-case this for the Alpha, though I'd be kind of loathe to do so. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Sep 10 14:21: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B83C437B40B; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 14:20:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA27907; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 23:20:29 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.4) id f8ALKJF01079; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 23:20:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 23:20:19 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.4RC4: out of space on / during install Message-ID: <20010910232019.A1034@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20010910203932.C505@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20010910125311P.jkh@freebsd.org> <20010910221415.B472@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20010910141024T.jkh@freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010910141024T.jkh@freebsd.org>; from jkh@freebsd.org on Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 02:10:24PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-RC X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 02:10:24PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > From: Wilko Bulte > Subject: Re: 4.4RC4: out of space on / during install > Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 22:14:15 +0200 > > > On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 12:53:11PM -0700, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > > > I see. My guess was not too bad then as far as the docs went. > > > > Hmm. How about me putting an entry in the 4.4 relnotes? There are no > > ill effects that I can see. > > No objections here! Consider it done then. > > Maybe a seperate mfs /tmp might help? > > Hmmm. That's not the worst idea I've heard today. Do we still have > any dreams of installing on <16MB machines, or have those firmly died > by now? :) I suppose we could also special-case this for the Alpha, > though I'd be kind of loathe to do so. You don't want to ever use a 16MB alpha. I once tried, 4x4MB SIMM in a NoName. It is like tar crawling uphill. Going to 32MB immediately halved buildtimes of a kernel. Good VM test though. It kept running [crawling]. For all intents and purposes 32 MB is the bare minimum for Alpha, with 64 MB for a useful machine. No fancy KDE of course on 64.. So: for Alpha I don't think 16MB is worth considering anymore. W/ -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Sep 10 15:54:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from switch2.switchpwr.com (switch1.switchpwr.com [12.14.48.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D512837B401 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 15:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from switchpwr.com (switch4.switchpwr.com [12.14.48.22]) by switch2.switchpwr.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f8AMorD19416 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 18:50:53 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B9D3F7E.E55F0D29@switchpwr.com> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 18:32:30 -0400 From: mel kravitz Organization: switching power inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.4-RC4 alpha) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: [Fwd: 4.4rc4-install.iso a winner here.] Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------D9E9984EEDCB5043D1F5818E" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D9E9984EEDCB5043D1F5818E Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit --------------D9E9984EEDCB5043D1F5818E Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 Message-ID: <3B9D1112.E7511A83@switchpwr.com> Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 15:14:26 -0400 From: mel kravitz Organization: switching power inc X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.4-RC4 alpha) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: 4.4rc4-install.iso a winner here. References: <3B9CE4F6.9075765B@switchpwr.com> <20010910204018.D505@freebie.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="------------3DD682F8E79C13078A471C7D" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------3DD682F8E79C13078A471C7D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nothing unusual-rather smoth install, enclosed : uname -a,df -k , dmesg. -Mel Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 04:06:14PM +0000, mel kravitz wrote: > > Any notices of sysinstall about running out of space on / on the mfsroot ? > > W/ > > > Using 4.4rc4-install.iso image on UP2000+ dual installs just fine. I > > used cdrecord on my as1000a running NetBSD to burn the .iso image. > > Any one running netscape on 5.0-current? If so what am i doing wrong? > > -Mel > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > ---end of quoted text--- > > -- > | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte --------------3DD682F8E79C13078A471C7D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="uname.1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="uname.1" FreeBSD casey181.doodle.com 4.4-RC4 FreeBSD 4.4-RC4 #0: Thu Sep 6 19:33:36 GMT 2001 root@jkh234.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC alpha --------------3DD682F8E79C13078A471C7D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="df.1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="df.1" Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Avail Capacity Mounted on /dev/da0a 109135 42965 57440 43% / /dev/da0f 8047000 638248 6764992 9% /usr /dev/da0e 19815 1200 17030 7% /var procfs 8 8 0 100% /proc --------------3DD682F8E79C13078A471C7D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; name="dmesg.1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline; filename="dmesg.1" Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.4-RC4 #1: Thu Sep 6 21:13:53 GMT 2001 root@jkh234.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOOTMFS ST6600 UP2000+ 666 MHz, 666MHz 8192 byte page size, 2 processors. CPU: major=13 minor=3 extensions=0x1307 OSF PAL rev: 0x200400002014f real memory = 265592832 (259368K bytes) avail memory = 250798080 (244920K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc0000914000. md1: Malloc disk pcib0: <21271 PCI host bus adapter> on tsunami0 pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 5.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1100-0x110f,0x3f4-0x3f7,0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 238 at device 5.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 atapci1: port 0x374-0x377,0x170-0x177 irq 239 at device 5.2 on pci0 atapci1: Busmastering DMA not configured pci0: at 5.3 ahc0: port 0x1000-0x10ff mem 0x2061000-0x2061fff irq 19 at device 6.0 on pci0 aic7890/91: Ultra2 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 255 SCBs ahc0: interrupting at TSUNAMI irq 19 pci0: at 8.0 irq 27 pci0: at 9.0 irq 23 pcib1: <21271 PCI host bus adapter> on tsunami0 pci1: on pcib1 de0: port 0x80010000-0x8001007f mem 0x81080000-0x8108007f irq 47 at device 7.0 on pci1 de0: interrupting at TSUNAMI irq 47 de0: DEC DE500-AA 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.2 de0: address 00:00:f8:07:fb:60 de0: enabling 100baseTX port de1: port 0x80010080-0x800100ff mem 0x81080080-0x810800ff irq 43 at device 8.0 on pci1 de1: interrupting at TSUNAMI irq 43 de1: DEC DE500-AA 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.0 de1: address 00:00:f8:1e:af:38 de1: enabling 100baseTX port fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: interrupting at ISA irq 6 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd0: interrupting at ISA irq 1 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: interrupting at ISA irq 12 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> mcclock0: at port 0x70-0x71 on isa0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: interrupting at ISA irq 4 sio1: reserved for low-level i/o Timecounter "alpha" frequency 666458477 Hz acd0: CDROM at ata0-master using PIO4 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Mounting root from ufs:/dev/md0c WARNING: clock gained 2 days -- CHECK AND RESET THE DATE! da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8761MB (17942584 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1116C) Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...stopped Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop...stopped syncing disks... done Uptime: 40m47s Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.4-RC4 #0: Thu Sep 6 19:33:36 GMT 2001 root@jkh234.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC ST6600 UP2000+ 666 MHz, 666MHz 8192 byte page size, 2 processors. CPU: major=13 minor=3 extensions=0x1307 OSF PAL rev: 0x200400002014f real memory = 265592832 (259368K bytes) avail memory = 252190720 (246280K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc00007a4000. md0: Malloc disk pcib0: <21271 PCI host bus adapter> on tsunami0 pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 5.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1100-0x110f,0x3f4-0x3f7,0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 238 at device 5.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 atapci1: port 0x374-0x377,0x170-0x177 irq 239 at device 5.2 on pci0 atapci1: Busmastering DMA not configured ohci0: mem 0x2060000-0x2060fff at device 5.3 on pci0 ohci0: Could not allocate irq device_probe_and_attach: ohci0 attach returned 6 ahc0: port 0x1000-0x10ff mem 0x2061000-0x2061fff irq 19 at device 6.0 on pci0 aic7890/91: Ultra2 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 255 SCBs ahc0: interrupting at TSUNAMI irq 19 ohci0: mem 0x2062000-0x2062fff irq 27 at device 8.0 on pci0 ohci0: interrupting at TSUNAMI irq 27 usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: (unknown) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: at 9.0 irq 23 pcib1: <21271 PCI host bus adapter> on tsunami0 pci1: on pcib1 de0: port 0x80010000-0x8001007f mem 0x81080000-0x8108007f irq 47 at device 7.0 on pci1 de0: interrupting at TSUNAMI irq 47 de0: DEC DE500-AA 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.2 de0: address 00:00:f8:07:fb:60 de0: enabling 100baseTX port de1: port 0x80010080-0x800100ff mem 0x81080080-0x810800ff irq 43 at device 8.0 on pci1 de1: interrupting at TSUNAMI irq 43 de1: DEC DE500-AA 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.0 de1: address 00:00:f8:1e:af:38 de1: enabling 100baseTX port fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: interrupting at ISA irq 6 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd0: interrupting at ISA irq 1 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: interrupting at ISA irq 12 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> mcclock0: at port 0x70-0x71 on isa0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: interrupting at ISA irq 4 sio1: reserved for low-level i/o ppc0: at port 0x3bc-0x3bf irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus0: IEEE1284 device found /NIBBLE Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0: ppbus0: HP ENHANCED PCL5,PJL,POSTSCRIPT plip0: cannot reserve interrupt, failed. lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Polled port ppi0: on ppbus0 ppc0: interrupting at ISA irq 7 Timecounter "alpha" frequency 666459039 Hz acd0: CDROM at ata0-master using PIO4 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0a da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8761MB (17942584 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1116C) Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `bufdaemon' to stop...stopped Waiting (max 60 seconds) for system process `syncer' to stop...stopped syncing disks... done Uptime: 3h26m11s Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.4-RC4 #0: Thu Sep 6 19:33:36 GMT 2001 root@jkh234.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC ST6600 UP2000+ 666 MHz, 666MHz 8192 byte page size, 2 processors. CPU: major=13 minor=3 extensions=0x1307 OSF PAL rev: 0x200400002014f real memory = 265592832 (259368K bytes) avail memory = 252190720 (246280K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xfffffc00007a4000. md0: Malloc disk pcib0: <21271 PCI host bus adapter> on tsunami0 pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 5.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1100-0x110f,0x3f4-0x3f7,0x1f0-0x1f7 irq 238 at device 5.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 atapci1: port 0x374-0x377,0x170-0x177 irq 239 at device 5.2 on pci0 atapci1: Busmastering DMA not configured ohci0: mem 0x2060000-0x2060fff at device 5.3 on pci0 ohci0: Could not allocate irq device_probe_and_attach: ohci0 attach returned 6 ahc0: port 0x1000-0x10ff mem 0x2061000-0x2061fff irq 19 at device 6.0 on pci0 aic7890/91: Ultra2 Wide Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 255 SCBs ahc0: interrupting at TSUNAMI irq 19 ohci0: mem 0x2062000-0x2062fff irq 27 at device 8.0 on pci0 ohci0: interrupting at TSUNAMI irq 27 usb0: OHCI version 1.0, legacy support usb0: on ohci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: (unknown) OHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered pci0: at 9.0 irq 23 pcib1: <21271 PCI host bus adapter> on tsunami0 pci1: on pcib1 de0: port 0x80010000-0x8001007f mem 0x81080000-0x8108007f irq 47 at device 7.0 on pci1 de0: interrupting at TSUNAMI irq 47 de0: DEC DE500-AA 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.2 de0: address 00:00:f8:07:fb:60 de0: enabling 100baseTX port de1: port 0x80010080-0x800100ff mem 0x81080080-0x810800ff irq 43 at device 8.0 on pci1 de1: interrupting at TSUNAMI irq 43 de1: DEC DE500-AA 21140A [10-100Mb/s] pass 2.0 de1: address 00:00:f8:1e:af:38 de1: enabling 100baseTX port fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: interrupting at ISA irq 6 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd0: interrupting at ISA irq 1 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: interrupting at ISA irq 12 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x200> mcclock0: at port 0x70-0x71 on isa0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio0: interrupting at ISA irq 4 sio1: reserved for low-level i/o ppc0: at port 0x3bc-0x3bf irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus0: IEEE1284 device found /NIBBLE Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0: ppbus0: HP ENHANCED PCL5,PJL,POSTSCRIPT plip0: cannot reserve interrupt, failed. lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Polled port ppi0: on ppbus0 ppc0: interrupting at ISA irq 7 Timecounter "alpha" frequency 666458402 Hz acd0: CDROM at ata0-master using PIO4 Waiting 15 seconds for SCSI devices to settle Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0a da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-3 device da0: 80.000MB/s transfers (40.000MHz, offset 31, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 8761MB (17942584 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1116C) --------------3DD682F8E79C13078A471C7D-- --------------D9E9984EEDCB5043D1F5818E-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Sep 10 23:48:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from gnah.bolet.org (gnah.bolet.org [80.65.226.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3018B37B412 for ; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 23:48:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nostromo.bolet.org (nostromo [10.0.1.2]) by gnah.bolet.org (8.11.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f8B6maH43942; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:48:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pornin@bolet.org) Received: (from pornin@localhost) by nostromo.bolet.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f8B6maU00345; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:48:36 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from pornin) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:48:36 +0200 From: Thomas Pornin To: Wilko Bulte Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.4RC4: out of space on / during install Message-ID: <20010911084836.A321@nostromo.bolet.org> References: <20010910203932.C505@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20010910125311P.jkh@freebsd.org> <20010910221415.B472@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20010910141024T.jkh@freebsd.org> <20010910232019.A1034@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010910232019.A1034@freebie.xs4all.nl>; from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl on Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 11:20:19PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 11:20:19PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > So: for Alpha I don't think 16MB is worth considering anymore. I agree, but the installation should be able to run in 24MB, since Multia were often shipped with that much memory. 24MB are enough for a small router/server (PPPoE + sendmail + bind). --Thomas Pornin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Sep 11 1:47: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.packetdesign.com (dns.packetdesign.com [65.192.41.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A47A37B407; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 01:46:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nimitz.packetdesign.com (nimitz.packetdesign.com [192.168.0.184]) by mailman.packetdesign.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f8ANcU239409; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:38:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@packetdesign.com) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by nimitz.packetdesign.com (8.11.6/8.11.5) id f8ANcUG66810; Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:38:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200109102338.f8ANcUG66810@nimitz.packetdesign.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Cc: bmah@freebsd.org Subject: Handbook installation chapter for Alpha architecture From: bmah@freebsd.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@freebsd.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_362659240P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 10 Sep 2001 16:38:30 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_362659240P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi folks-- Some time ago, I observed that the Handbook installation chapter was oriented very strongly towards the i386 architecture. In an effort to remedy this situation, what I've done is to bring the Alpha-specific parts of the RELNOTESng install document into a form usable in the Handbook. By nik's (very reasonable) request, I've held off on committing this, but instead am posting a diff at the end of this message. (nik is concerned about the impending print deadline for the Handbook. No argument there. Another reason is that I am not a FreeBSD alpha developer, or even a FreeBSD alpha user. Definitely this needs a cycle of feedback before it goes in the Handbook "for real".) In the best of all possible worlds, someone who's both an alpha and a doc person would just grab this diff and fix it up (committing it at some suitable time). Lacking this, I'll try (Copious Free Time (TM) permitting) to incorporate feedback from alpha developers/users. Cheers, Bruce. Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/install/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.112 diff -u -r1.112 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 2001/09/10 05:36:21 1.112 +++ chapter.sgml 2001/09/10 20:30:14 @@ -70,6 +70,14 @@ supported. + + + In general, these installation instructions are written + for i386 (PC compatible) architecture + computers. Where applicable, instructions specific to other + platforms (for example, Alpha) will be listed. + + @@ -206,6 +214,9 @@ systems then you need to have a rough understanding of how data is laid out on the disk, and how this affects you. + + Disk Layouts for the i386 + A PC disk can be divided in to discrete chunks. These chunks are called partitions. By design, the PC only supports four partitions per disk. These partitions are called @@ -305,6 +316,42 @@ + + + + + Disk Layouts for the Alpha + + Alpha + + You will need a dedicated disk for FreeBSD on the + Alpha. It is not possible to share a disk with another + operating system at this time. Depending on the specific + Alpha machine you have, this disk can either be a SCSI disk + or an IDE disk, as long as your machine is capable of + booting from it. + + To find the names and types of disks in your machine, use + the show device command from the SRM + firmware prompt: + + >>>show device +dka0.0.0.4.0 DKA0 TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-57 3476 +dkc0.0.0.1009.0 DKC0 RZ1BB-BS 0658 +dkc100.1.0.1009.0 DKC100 SEAGATE ST34501W 0015 +dva0.0.0.0.1 DVA0 +ewa0.0.0.3.0 EWA0 00-00-F8-75-6D-01 +pkc0.7.0.1009.0 PKC0 SCSI Bus ID 7 5.27 +pqa0.0.0.4.0 PQA0 PCI EIDE +pqb0.0.1.4.0 PQB0 PCI EIDE + + This example is from a Digital Personal Workstation + 433au and shows three disks attached to the machine. The + first is a CDROM called dka0 and + the other two are disks and are called + dkc0 and + dkc100 repectively. + @@ -536,6 +583,9 @@ Booting + + Booting for the i386 + Start with your computer turned off. @@ -655,6 +705,67 @@ will then launch the kernel configuration menu. + + + + Booting for the Alpha + + Alpha + + + + Start with your computer turned off. + + + + Turn on the computer and wait for a boot monitor + prompt. + + + If you needed to prepare boot floppies, as described in + then one of them will be the + first boot disc, probably the one containing + kern.flp. Put this disc in your floppy + drive and type the following command to boot the disk + (substituting the name of your floppy drive if + necessary): + + >>>boot dva0 + + If you are booting from CDROM, insert the CDROM into + the drive and type the following command to start the + installation (substituting the name of the appropriate + CDROM drive if necessary): + + >>>boot dka0 + + + + FreeBSD will start to boot. If you are booting from a + floppy disc, at some point you will see the message: + + Please insert MFS root floppy and press enter: + + Follow these instructions by removing the + kern.flp disc, insert the + mfsroot.flp disc, and press + Enter. + + + + Irrespective of whether you booted from floppy or CDROM, the + boot process will then get to this point. + + Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. +Booting [kernel] in 9 seconds... _ + + Either wait ten seconds, or press Enter. This + will then launch the kernel configuration menu. + + + + + @@ -3928,6 +4039,9 @@ FreeBSD Bootup + + FreeBSD Bootup on the i386 + If everything went well, you will see messages scroll off the screen and you will arrive at a login prompt. You can view the content of the messages by pressing Scroll-Lock @@ -4072,6 +4186,31 @@ If the X server has been configured and a Default Desktop chosen, it can be started by typing startx at the command line. + + + + + Bootup of FreeBSD on the Alpha + + Alpha + + Once the install procedure has finished, you will be + able to start FreeBSD by typing something like this to the + SRM prompt: + + >>>boot dkc0 + + This instructs the firmware to boot the specified + disk. To make FreeBSD boot automatically in the future, use + these commands: + + >>> set boot_osflags a +>>> set bootdef_dev dkc0 +>>> set auto_action BOOT + + The boot messages will be similar (but not identical) to + those produced by FreeBSD booting on the i386. + @@ -4296,6 +4435,53 @@ DOS drive, for example: &prompt.root; mount -t msdos /dev/ad0s5 /dos_d + + + + + + + Alpha User's Questions and Answers + + Alpha + + This section answers some commonly asked questions about + installing FreeBSD on Alpha systems. + + + + + Can I boot from the ARC or Alpha BIOS Console? + + + ARC + Alpha BIOS + SRM + + + No. &os;, like Compaq Tru64 and VMS, will only boot + from the SRM console. + + + + + + Help, I have no space! Do I need to delete + everything first? + + + + Unfortunately, yes. + + + + + + Can I mount my Compaq Tru64 or VMS extended partitions? + + + + No, not at this time. --==_Exmh_362659240P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7nU722MoxcVugUsMRAkbGAJ9vzv3TPsB+M9gvPTqQUSRpZ0pEfACfShCK +Q+/mRKIBqgoOETLbU9t1uo= =gPv1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_362659240P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Sep 11 5:47:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A86E37B403; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 05:47:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA01449; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:47:29 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f8BCl1493624; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:47:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15262.1988.758945.134617@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 08:47:00 -0400 (EDT) To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook installation chapter for Alpha architecture In-Reply-To: <200109102338.f8ANcUG66810@nimitz.packetdesign.com> References: <200109102338.f8ANcUG66810@nimitz.packetdesign.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bruce A. Mah writes: > Hi folks-- > > Some time ago, I observed that the Handbook installation chapter was > oriented very strongly towards the i386 architecture. In an effort to > remedy this situation, what I've done is to bring the Alpha-specific > parts of the RELNOTESng install document into a form usable in the > Handbook. By nik's (very reasonable) request, I've held off on > committing this, but instead am posting a diff at the end of this > message. Wow. You've done an excellent job! My feedback is: - mention that IDE disks are called 'dqX' (rather than dkX) on most alpha platforms. The miata is an exception. - instruct them to pass null file and flags args to the installation boot. Eg: boot -fl '' -fi '' DEVICE (The loader pays attention to them & may try to load a file that doesn't exist if they're not blanked after installing, say, linux.) - instruct them to blank the boot_file and boot_osflags variables after install, in addition to setting bootdef_dev Cheers, Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Sep 11 15:50:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from netau1.alcanet.com.au (ntp.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47CB037B406; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 15:50:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au (mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au [139.188.23.1]) by netau1.alcanet.com.au (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA12508; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:50:21 +1000 (EST) Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au by cim.alcatel.com.au (PMDF V5.2-32 #37645) with ESMTP id <01K88S3N0EMO0SPZGW@cim.alcatel.com.au>; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:50:18 +1000 Received: (from jeremyp@localhost) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f8BMoIY72657; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:50:18 +1000 (EST envelope-from jeremyp) Content-return: prohibited Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 08:50:18 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: Handbook installation chapter for Alpha architecture In-reply-to: <200109102338.f8ANcUG66810@nimitz.packetdesign.com>; from bmah@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 04:38:30PM -0700 To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-Followup-To: "Bruce A. Mah" , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <20010912085018.X48793@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i References: <200109102338.f8ANcUG66810@nimitz.packetdesign.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org One comment: Unlike the i386, Alpha boot flags must be specified via the SRM - eg it isn't possible[1] to boot single user by issuing 'boot -s' to the FreeBSD boot-loader, you have to use 'boot -fl s' at the SRM. [1] At least it wasn't a couple of months ago when I last updated my system. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Sep 11 16:23:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09A6F37B40D; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:23:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA24394; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 01:23:23 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.4) id f8BNNOO05100; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 01:23:24 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 01:23:24 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Bruce A. Mah" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook installation chapter for Alpha architecture Message-ID: <20010912012324.A4284@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200109102338.f8ANcUG66810@nimitz.packetdesign.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200109102338.f8ANcUG66810@nimitz.packetdesign.com>; from bmah@FreeBSD.ORG on Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 04:38:30PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-RC X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 04:38:30PM -0700, Bruce A. Mah wrote: Bruce, I'm more than happy to take maintainership of this one, plenty of Alphas here. But I'm out of cycles this week. I just got home from work (01:15 pm) so it will need a bit of time, Wilko > Some time ago, I observed that the Handbook installation chapter was > oriented very strongly towards the i386 architecture. In an effort to > remedy this situation, what I've done is to bring the Alpha-specific > parts of the RELNOTESng install document into a form usable in the > Handbook. By nik's (very reasonable) request, I've held off on > committing this, but instead am posting a diff at the end of this > message. > > (nik is concerned about the impending print deadline for the Handbook. > No argument there. Another reason is that I am not a FreeBSD alpha > developer, or even a FreeBSD alpha user. Definitely this needs a cycle > of feedback before it goes in the Handbook "for real".) > > In the best of all possible worlds, someone who's both an alpha and a > doc person would just grab this diff and fix it up (committing it at > some suitable time). Lacking this, I'll try (Copious Free Time (TM) > permitting) to incorporate feedback from alpha developers/users. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Sep 11 16:32:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5494A37B40F for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 16:32:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id BAA05295; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 01:32:08 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.4) id f8BNW5p05151; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 01:32:05 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 01:32:05 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Thomas Pornin Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.4RC4: out of space on / during install Message-ID: <20010912013205.B4284@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20010910203932.C505@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20010910125311P.jkh@freebsd.org> <20010910221415.B472@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20010910141024T.jkh@freebsd.org> <20010910232019.A1034@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20010911084836.A321@nostromo.bolet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010911084836.A321@nostromo.bolet.org>; from pornin@bolet.org on Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 08:48:36AM +0200 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-RC X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Sep 11, 2001 at 08:48:36AM +0200, Thomas Pornin wrote: > On Mon, Sep 10, 2001 at 11:20:19PM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > So: for Alpha I don't think 16MB is worth considering anymore. > > I agree, but the installation should be able to run in 24MB, since > Multia were often shipped with that much memory. 24MB are enough for > a small router/server (PPPoE + sendmail + bind). Hm. 4 8MB SIMMs should be obtainable, if only for installation. But I understand where you are coming from. Remember that SRM already steals 2MB from your RAM.. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Sep 11 19: 6:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E0D937B40A; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 19:06:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8C1xLw84115; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:59:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 18:59:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200109120159.f8C1xLw84115@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wilko@freebsd.org, obrien@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: alpha/30483: TurboLaser zs0 console device is missing from MAKEDEV 'std' devic Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: TurboLaser zs0 console device is missing from MAKEDEV 'std' devic State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: obrien State-Changed-When: Tue Sep 11 18:58:15 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: fixed http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30483 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Sep 11 21:35:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from admin.vt.com (admin.vt.com [204.117.188.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84E9437B40A for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 21:35:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from diego1 ([208.246.62.54]) by admin.vt.com (8.8.5/8.7.3) with SMTP id XAA01318 for ; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:34:48 -0500 (CDT) From: "Earthoid WAPSearch" To: Subject: file open failed for lp_nodes_ewa0... Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 23:42:58 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Howdy, I am conducting a "nettest ewa0" in SRM and I get "file open failed for lp_nodes_ewa0" How do I get rid of the "lp_nodes_ewa0" error? How do I "nettest" without SRM looking for "lp_nodes_ewa0" file? How do I set SRM to have "loopback" capabilities? There is no loopback coming from switch/ hub. thanks, Diego To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Sep 12 10: 5:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wrs.com (unknown-1-11.windriver.com [147.11.1.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4BA437B408; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:05:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@[147.11.46.201]) by mail.wrs.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id KAA28653; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:02:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010912085018.X48793@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 10:02:32 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: Handbook installation chapter for Alpha architecture Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, "Bruce A. Mah" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 11-Sep-01 Peter Jeremy wrote: > One comment: > Unlike the i386, Alpha boot flags must be specified via the SRM - eg it > isn't possible[1] to boot single user by issuing 'boot -s' to the > FreeBSD boot-loader, you have to use 'boot -fl s' at the SRM. > > [1] At least it wasn't a couple of months ago when I last updated my > system. Erm, I've used 'boot -s' from the loader many, many, many times on my alpha test systems. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Sep 12 13:43: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from netau1.alcanet.com.au (ntp.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1156637B40A; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au (mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au [139.188.23.1]) by netau1.alcanet.com.au (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id GAA09207; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 06:42:55 +1000 (EST) Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au by cim.alcatel.com.au (PMDF V5.2-32 #37641) with ESMTP id <01K8A1WX5YS0VFF8NN@cim.alcatel.com.au>; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 06:42:47 +1000 Received: (from jeremyp@localhost) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f8CKgqd71291; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 06:42:52 +1000 (EST envelope-from jeremyp) Content-return: prohibited Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 06:42:52 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: Handbook installation chapter for Alpha architecture In-reply-to: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 10:02:32AM -0700 To: John Baldwin Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-Followup-To: John Baldwin , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <20010913064252.G48793@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i References: <20010912085018.X48793@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001-Sep-12 10:02:32 -0700, John Baldwin wrote: > >On 11-Sep-01 Peter Jeremy wrote: >> One comment: >> Unlike the i386, Alpha boot flags must be specified via the SRM - eg it >> isn't possible[1] to boot single user by issuing 'boot -s' to the >> FreeBSD boot-loader, you have to use 'boot -fl s' at the SRM. >> >> [1] At least it wasn't a couple of months ago when I last updated my >> system. > >Erm, I've used 'boot -s' from the loader many, many, many times on my >alpha test systems. Interesting, I've never had it work on my Multia. It hasn't annoyed me enough (and is useful on occasion) to chase it up. I guess I'll have to dig into the Alpha boot process a bit deeper and find out why it doesn't work for me. Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Sep 12 13:50: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mta05.mail.mel.aone.net.au (mta05.mail.au.uu.net [203.2.192.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D119837B40E for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 13:49:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ausyddtp0050.ozemail.com.au ([203.166.66.104]) by mta05.mail.mel.aone.net.au with ESMTP id <20010912204956.SZSV7694.mta05.mail.mel.aone.net.au@ausyddtp0050.ozemail.com.au> for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 06:49:56 +1000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010913064612.00a6eda0@pop.ozemail.com.au> X-Sender: rbyrnes@pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: I wish it was Linux Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 06:47:37 +1000 To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG From: Rob B Subject: Re: Handbook installation chapter for Alpha architecture In-Reply-To: <20010913064252.G48793@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> References: <20010912085018.X48793@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 06:42 13/09/2001, Peter Jeremy wrote: >On 2001-Sep-12 10:02:32 -0700, John Baldwin wrote: > > > >On 11-Sep-01 Peter Jeremy wrote: > >> One comment: > >> Unlike the i386, Alpha boot flags must be specified via the SRM - eg it > >> isn't possible[1] to boot single user by issuing 'boot -s' to the > >> FreeBSD boot-loader, you have to use 'boot -fl s' at the SRM. > >> > >> [1] At least it wasn't a couple of months ago when I last updated my > >> system. > > > >Erm, I've used 'boot -s' from the loader many, many, many times on my > >alpha test systems. > >Interesting, I've never had it work on my Multia. It hasn't annoyed >me enough (and is useful on occasion) to chase it up. I guess I'll >have to dig into the Alpha boot process a bit deeper and find out why >it doesn't work for me. You'll probably find it's a "feature" of SRM. The Multia SRM is really really old, and doesn't do a lot of the things the newer SRM version can do. Cheers, Rob -- Duct tape is like the Force. It has a light side and a dark side, and it binds the universe together. This is random quote 354 of a collection of 1160 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Sep 12 14:37:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from netau1.alcanet.com.au (ntp.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB0C37B408 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 14:37:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au (mfg1.cim.alcatel.com.au [139.188.23.1]) by netau1.alcanet.com.au (8.9.3 (PHNE_22672)/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA14573; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 07:37:27 +1000 (EST) Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au by cim.alcatel.com.au (PMDF V5.2-32 #37645) with ESMTP id <01K8A3TM10XC0SQMSN@cim.alcatel.com.au>; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 07:37:23 +1000 Received: (from jeremyp@localhost) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f8CLbOO71801; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 07:37:24 +1000 (EST envelope-from jeremyp) Content-return: prohibited Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 07:37:24 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy Subject: Re: Handbook installation chapter for Alpha architecture In-reply-to: <5.1.0.14.2.20010913064612.00a6eda0@pop.ozemail.com.au>; from rbyrnes@ozemail.com.au on Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 06:47:37AM +1000 To: Rob B Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: Rob B , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Message-id: <20010913073724.J48793@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i References: <20010912085018.X48793@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> <20010913064252.G48793@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> <5.1.0.14.2.20010913064612.00a6eda0@pop.ozemail.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001-Sep-13 06:47:37 +1000, Rob B wrote: >At 06:42 13/09/2001, Peter Jeremy wrote: >>On 2001-Sep-12 10:02:32 -0700, John Baldwin wrote: >> > >> >On 11-Sep-01 Peter Jeremy wrote: >> >> One comment: >> >> Unlike the i386, Alpha boot flags must be specified via the SRM - eg it >> >> isn't possible[1] to boot single user by issuing 'boot -s' to the >> >> FreeBSD boot-loader, you have to use 'boot -fl s' at the SRM. >> >> >> >> [1] At least it wasn't a couple of months ago when I last updated my >> >> system. >> > >> >Erm, I've used 'boot -s' from the loader many, many, many times on my >> >alpha test systems. >> >> >>Interesting, I've never had it work on my Multia. It hasn't annoyed >>me enough (and is useful on occasion) to chase it up. I guess I'll >>have to dig into the Alpha boot process a bit deeper and find out why >>it doesn't work for me. > >You'll probably find it's a "feature" of SRM. The Multia SRM is really >really old, and doesn't do a lot of the things the newer SRM version can do. My assumption (usual caveats) is that the boot loader reads the SRM boot flags, over-rides them with flags specified on the 'boot' line in the boot loader and then passed the result directly to the kernel. SRM mis-features shouldn't stop the boot loader over-riding user- specified flags. Having poked through the code a bit, this is the way things should behave (see /sys/boot/alpha/libalpha/elf_freebsd.c:elf_exec() ). It's possible that the Multia's prom_getenv() is returning an incorrect value - preventing elf_exec() from appending the user flags. I shall have to investigate... Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Sep 12 15:59:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F8437B403 for ; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 15:59:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id f8CMxfR98553; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 15:59:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2001 15:59:41 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Rob B Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook installation chapter for Alpha architecture Message-ID: <20010912155941.A98523@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010912085018.X48793@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> <20010913064252.G48793@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> <5.1.0.14.2.20010913064612.00a6eda0@pop.ozemail.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20010913064612.00a6eda0@pop.ozemail.com.au>; from rbyrnes@ozemail.com.au on Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 06:47:37AM +1000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 06:47:37AM +1000, Rob B wrote: > You'll probably find it's a "feature" of SRM. The Multia SRM is really > really old, and doesn't do a lot of the things the newer SRM version can do. This has got nothing to do with SRM. One should set their bootflags to ''. Then "boot dka0" (for example) which will load the loader. At that one one is free to hit the space bar followed by "boot -s". Please do not confuse the firmware "boot" command with the loader "boot" command. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Sep 12 17:55:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from femail41.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail41.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.254.60.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2BE937B405; Wed, 12 Sep 2001 17:55:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from intruder.bmah.org ([24.176.204.87]) by femail41.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with ESMTP id <20010912031613.UIGI25759.femail41.sdc1.sfba.home.com@intruder.bmah.org>; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:16:13 -0700 Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) id f8C3GCV48820; Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:16:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200109120316.f8C3GCV48820@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Wilko Bulte Cc: "Bruce A. Mah" , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook installation chapter for Alpha architecture In-Reply-To: <20010912012324.A4284@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200109102338.f8ANcUG66810@nimitz.packetdesign.com> <20010912012324.A4284@freebie.xs4all.nl> Comments: In-reply-to Wilko Bulte message dated "Wed, 12 Sep 2001 01:23:24 +0200." From: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_100762444P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 20:16:12 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_100762444P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, Wilko Bulte wrote: > I'm more than happy to take maintainership of this one, plenty of Alphas here > . > But I'm out of cycles this week. I just got home from work (01:15 pm) > so it will need a bit of time, Great...it's all yours! I'm most grateful, since you've already done such an awesome job with the Alpha documentation for RELNOTESng. Let me know if there's anything I can do from my corner. As far as time goes, I'm not sure whether or not there is any urgency for getting this committed. Off-hand, I'd say we ought not to worry about rushing it in before the Handbook print deadline. Thanks! Bruce. --==_Exmh_100762444P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.3.1+ 05/14/2001 iD8DBQE7ntN82MoxcVugUsMRApWGAJ9UhGDnxi3mwkL47P1wP+52lbA3OgCgiKaq rbShqE2+FlC6ubNF19izyaI= =M/9g -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_100762444P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Sep 13 0:12:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC74937B417 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 00:12:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from durlindana.fi.infn.it (durlindana.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.216]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id f8D7CHi14226 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:12:17 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by durlindana.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 577FF5A549; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:10:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by durlindana.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4723E567D6 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:10:18 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 09:10:18 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: hardware problem Message-ID: <20010913090945.M4279-100000@durlindana.fi.infn.it> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Filter-Version: 1.7 (postino.fi.infn.it) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org anyone could give me a little hint about a problem I ahve with an AS 1000 2/266. if so I will write what is my problem. thank you Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Sep 13 2:53:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mta02.mail.mel.aone.net.au (mta02.mail.au.uu.net [203.2.192.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8232837B405 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 02:53:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ausyddtp0050.ozemail.com.au ([203.166.66.104]) by mta02.mail.mel.aone.net.au with ESMTP id <20010913095342.IKBL22650.mta02.mail.mel.aone.net.au@ausyddtp0050.ozemail.com.au> for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:53:42 +1000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010913195057.00aceec0@pop.ozemail.com.au> X-Sender: rbyrnes@pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: I wish it was Linux Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 19:53:22 +1000 To: From: Rob B Subject: Re: hardware problem In-Reply-To: <20010913090945.M4279-100000@durlindana.fi.infn.it> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 17:10 13/09/2001, Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it wrote: >anyone could give me a little hint about a problem I ahve with an AS 1000 >2/266. if so I will write what is my problem. >thank you Ahh, that's very cheeky, trying to get an answer before asking a question. That's like theft ... most lists work on a trade principal, you ask a question, you then (and only then) get an answer :) How about you ask the question (no-one will laugh ... promise) to the list, and then we will see if anyone knows the answer. Cheers, Rob :) -- Yesterday I was a dog. Today I'm a dog. Tomorrow I'll probably still be a dog. Sigh! There's so little hope for advancement. This is random quote 1125 of a collection of 1160 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Sep 13 6: 8:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mta04.mail.mel.aone.net.au (mta04.mail.au.uu.net [203.2.192.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D264C37B405 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 06:08:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ausyddtp0050.ozemail.com.au ([203.166.66.104]) by mta04.mail.mel.aone.net.au with ESMTP id <20010913130842.GWEG12702.mta04.mail.mel.aone.net.au@ausyddtp0050.ozemail.com.au> for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 23:08:42 +1000 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010913230249.01c78340@pop.ozemail.com.au> X-Sender: rbyrnes@pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: I wish it was Linux Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 23:06:45 +1000 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org From: Rob B Subject: kernel compile problem Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I'm trying to compile a new kernel for my Miata GL running 4.3-Release and I'm getting the following error: erwin# make depend @ -> /usr/src/sys ln: @/sys: File exists *** Error code 1 How do I get around this? Cheers, Rob -- A girl and a boy bump into each other -- surely an accident. A girl and a boy bump and her handkerchief drops -- surely another accident! This is random quote 51 of a collection of 1160 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Sep 13 12:13:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD3CF37B410; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 12:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA28343; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 21:13:26 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.4) id f8DJDQf46923; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 21:13:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 21:13:26 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Rob B , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Handbook installation chapter for Alpha architecture Message-ID: <20010913211326.A46909@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20010912085018.X48793@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> <20010913064252.G48793@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> <5.1.0.14.2.20010913064612.00a6eda0@pop.ozemail.com.au> <20010912155941.A98523@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010912155941.A98523@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 03:59:41PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-RC X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Sep 12, 2001 at 03:59:41PM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 06:47:37AM +1000, Rob B wrote: > > You'll probably find it's a "feature" of SRM. The Multia SRM is really > > really old, and doesn't do a lot of the things the newer SRM version can do. The very latest Multia SRM is at ftp://ftp.tcja.nl/pub/wilko > This has got nothing to do with SRM. One should set their bootflags to ''. BOOT_OSFLAGS set to A also works. > Then "boot dka0" (for example) which will load the loader. At that one > one is free to hit the space bar followed by "boot -s". Please do not > confuse the firmware "boot" command with the loader "boot" command. Absolutely. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Sep 13 15:41:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.mailstart.com (mail.mailstart.com [207.231.76.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAE1237B410 for ; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:41:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from muave [207.231.76.117] by mail.mailstart.com (SMTPD32-5.05) id A6274DD80134; Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:41:46 -0700 To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org Cc: From: "craig burgess" <750virago@webbox.com> Subject: where to take XFree86 problem? Message-Id: <130901256.56506@webbox.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 15:41:47 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org recently cvsup'd source (9 days ago), freshly cvsup'd ports (3 hours ago): ON FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #11: Mon Sep 3 17:28:15 PDT 2001 EB164 Digital AlphaPC 164 500 MHz, 500MHz or does this provide enough info for me (non programmer) to "fix" it? output: ........ /usr/bin/install -c -s xwud /usr/X11R6/bin/xwud install in programs/xwud done installing in programs/Xserver... [snipped] making all in programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/common... rm -f xf86Kbd.o cc -c -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -mcpu=ev4 -ansi -pedantic -Dasm=__asm -I. -I.. -I../../../../../programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/os-support -I../../../../../programs/Xserver/mfb -I../../../../../programs/Xserver/mi -I../../../../../programs/Xserver/include -I../../../../../programs/Xserver/os -I../../../../../exports/include/X11 -I../../../../../include/extensions -I -I../../../../.. -I../../../../../exports/include -DCSRG_BASED -DSHAPE -DXINPUT -DXKB -DLBX -DXAPPGROUP -DXCSECURITY -DDPMSExtension -DPIXPRIV -DGCCUSESGAS -DSTATIC_COLOR -DAVOID_GLYPHBLT -DPIXPRIV -DXFreeXDGA -D_XSERVER64 -DNDEBUG -DFUNCPROTO=15 -DNARROWPROTO -DPNP_MOUSE xf86Kbd.c xf86Kbd.c: In function `xf86KbdGetMapping': xf86Kbd.c:242: syntax error before `keymap' xf86Kbd.c:250: `KDGKBTYPE' undeclared (first use in this function) xf86Kbd.c:250: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once xf86Kbd.c:250: for each function it appears in.) xf86Kbd.c:250: `KB_101' undeclared (first use in this function) xf86Kbd.c:251: `KB_84' undeclared (first use in this function) xf86Kbd.c:265: `GIO_KEYMAP' undeclared (first use in this function) xf86Kbd.c:265: `keymap' undeclared (first use in this function) *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/x11/XFree86/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/xfree86/common. etc.... thanks, craig (mailto:craig@cheetahusa.net) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Sep 14 16:10: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64E8A37B401 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 16:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8ENA1128896; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 16:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 16:10:01 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200109142310.f8ENA1128896@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Cc: From: "Rainer Duffner" Subject: Re: alpha/30126: make buildkernel fails - missing file /usr/src/sys/modules/ipfilter/../../netinet/mlfk_ipl.c Reply-To: "Rainer Duffner" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR alpha/30126; it has been noted by GNATS. From: "Rainer Duffner" To: freebsd-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.org Cc: wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl Subject: Re: alpha/30126: make buildkernel fails - missing file /usr/src/sys/modules/ipfilter/../../netinet/mlfk_ipl.c Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 23:00:48 GMT Hi, I have this same bug now, but on i386. I also want to go from 4.3-R to STABLE. Is there a simple way to solve this ? do I have to make a kernel with IPFILTER cheers, Rainer -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Dipl. Inf. (FH) Rainer Duffner Munich rainer@ultra-secure.de Germany http://www.i-duffner.de Freising ======================================== When shall we three meet again In thunder, lightning, or in rain? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Sep 14 18:31: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5E06637B401 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 18:31:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailhost.feral.com (mjacob@mailhost.feral.com [192.67.166.1]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8F1V2I01125 for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 18:31:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 18:31:02 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@beppo Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: just a note Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org with the latest KSE commits and a sys directory that's not part of /usr/src, I had to disable linux compat && osf1 modules from building for Alpha. FYI. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Sep 14 23:40:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mailin5.bigpond.com (juicer02.bigpond.com [139.134.6.78]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DAFB37B40C for ; Fri, 14 Sep 2001 23:40:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from demon ([144.135.24.75]) by mailin5.bigpond.com (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GJOYTU00.9ST for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 16:46:42 +1000 Received: from CPE-203-45-179-17.qld.bigpond.net.au ([203.45.179.17]) by bwmam03.mailsvc.email.bigpond.com(MailRouter V2.9i 8323/12614350); 15 Sep 2001 16:46:42 Message-ID: <00c201c13db0$c9fd1770$0a00a8c0@matrix.mil> From: "Russell McGregor" To: Subject: FreeBSD on AXP 150 (Jensen) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 16:36:44 +1000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Are there some specific issues with setting up FreeBSD on these systems? If so is there some documentation somewhere which could help me? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Sep 15 0:13:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-server6.tampabay.rr.com (smtp-server6.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.1.43]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 480B137B40F for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 00:13:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from orca.brodie.hn.org (ubr-26.102.34.williamsburg.cfl.rr.com [24.26.102.34]) by smtp-server6.tampabay.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f8F7D9410146; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 03:13:09 -0400 (EDT) From: Brodie Hynes To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: successful 4.4rc4 install on dec 3305 Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 03:13:04 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.1.99] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0109150313040U.19946@orca.brodie.hn.org> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just wanted to report a successful install booting from cd from srm for freebsd4.4rc4 iso on a digital server 3305. The only thing that confused me was, when I recompiled the kernel, a la Mar 8, 2001 version of http://www.schlacter.dyndns.org/public/FreeBSD-STABLE_and_IPFILTER.html the mcpu flag for cc was set to ev4. (-mcpu=ev4) (saw it scroll by as the kernel compiled) though I had commented out EV4 in the kernel config file. (leaving 'cpu EV5' and 'options DEC_1000A') Being a newbie, this confused me, as I was expecting ev5 or ev56. Unfortunately the man page for cc only discussed i386 flags. Is this significant? Things seem to be running fine.... Many thanks. -Brodie P.S.: Additional thanks to all those who had the discussion about using camcontrol to change HD sector size back in mid-april. It was on the freebsd-scsi list, but there were familiar names :) Now that cheap scsi drive I just got works. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Sep 15 0:42:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98DEA37B406 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 00:42:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18399; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 09:42:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.4) id f8F7ggR55898; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 09:42:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 09:42:42 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Brodie Hynes Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: successful 4.4rc4 install on dec 3305 Message-ID: <20010915094242.A55879@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <0109150313040U.19946@orca.brodie.hn.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <0109150313040U.19946@orca.brodie.hn.org>; from bsdml@comphydro.com on Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 03:13:04AM -0400 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-RC X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 03:13:04AM -0400, Brodie Hynes wrote: > Just wanted to report a successful install booting from cd from srm > for freebsd4.4rc4 iso on a digital server 3305. > > The only thing that confused me was, when I recompiled the kernel, > a la Mar 8, 2001 version of > http://www.schlacter.dyndns.org/public/FreeBSD-STABLE_and_IPFILTER.html > > the mcpu flag for cc was set to ev4. (-mcpu=ev4) (saw it scroll by as the > kernel compiled) though I had commented out EV4 in the kernel config file. > (leaving 'cpu EV5' and 'options DEC_1000A') This cpu EV5 line does not influence gcc. > Being a newbie, this confused me, as I was expecting ev5 or ev56. > Unfortunately the man page for cc only discussed i386 flags. You can set the cpu type for gcc in /etc/make.conf (see also /etc/defaults/make.conf) > Is this significant? Things seem to be running fine.... EV4 optimized (for what gcc Alpha optimisations are worth) code runs fine on EV5 & EV6. Maybe not as quick. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Sep 15 0:43:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6ACD37B409 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 00:43:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21140; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 09:43:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.4) id f8F7h8055922; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 09:43:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 09:43:08 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Russell McGregor Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD on AXP 150 (Jensen) Message-ID: <20010915094308.B55879@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <00c201c13db0$c9fd1770$0a00a8c0@matrix.mil> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <00c201c13db0$c9fd1770$0a00a8c0@matrix.mil>; from rmcgrego@bigpond.net.au on Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 04:36:44PM +1000 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-RC X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 04:36:44PM +1000, Russell McGregor wrote: > Are there some specific issues with setting up FreeBSD on these systems? Yes. It is not supported by FreeBSD.. Try NetBSD. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Sep 15 9:40:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail11.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E53D137B406 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 09:40:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 51754 invoked from network); 15 Sep 2001 16:40:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO laptop.baldwin.cx) ([64.81.54.73]) (envelope-sender ) by mail11.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 15 Sep 2001 16:40:08 -0000 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 09:40:02 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Matthew Jacob Subject: RE: just a note Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 15-Sep-01 Matthew Jacob wrote: > > with the latest KSE commits and a sys directory that's not part of /usr/src, > I > had to disable linux compat && osf1 modules from building for Alpha. Also, gdb's kvm-fbsd.c still has a p_addr reference. The code in question is rather different from the equivalent x86 code in gdb, and I'm not sure how to go about fixing it. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Sep 15 10:53: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A89937B403 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 10:52:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id f8FHqrq53533; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 10:52:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 10:52:52 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Brodie Hynes , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: successful 4.4rc4 install on dec 3305 Message-ID: <20010915105252.A53451@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <0109150313040U.19946@orca.brodie.hn.org> <20010915094242.A55879@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010915094242.A55879@freebie.xs4all.nl>; from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl on Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 09:42:42AM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 09:42:42AM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > Is this significant? Things seem to be running fine.... > > EV4 optimized (for what gcc Alpha optimisations are worth) code runs fine on > EV5 & EV6. Maybe not as quick. And some have speculated that EV4 "optimized" code may in fact be incorrect code. I.e., "gcc -O2 -mcpu=ev4" may generate more incorrect code than it would for "gcc -O2 -mcpu=ev5". -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Sep 15 12:43:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EECC637B406; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 12:43:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA04601; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 21:43:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.4) id f8FJhp457587; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 21:43:51 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 21:43:51 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Brodie Hynes , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: successful 4.4rc4 install on dec 3305 Message-ID: <20010915214351.B57545@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <0109150313040U.19946@orca.brodie.hn.org> <20010915094242.A55879@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20010915105252.A53451@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010915105252.A53451@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 10:52:52AM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-RC X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 10:52:52AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote: > On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 09:42:42AM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > Is this significant? Things seem to be running fine.... > > > > EV4 optimized (for what gcc Alpha optimisations are worth) code runs fine on > > EV5 & EV6. Maybe not as quick. > > And some have speculated that EV4 "optimized" code may in fact be > incorrect code. I.e., "gcc -O2 -mcpu=ev4" may generate more incorrect > code than it would for "gcc -O2 -mcpu=ev5". And for -O? -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Sep 15 20:20: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from peter3.wemm.org (c1315225-a.plstn1.sfba.home.com [24.14.150.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BFD237B406; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 20:20:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f8G3JxM86945; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 20:19:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCB75380A; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 20:19:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: John Baldwin Cc: Matthew Jacob , alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: just a note In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 20:19:59 -0700 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20010916031959.CCB75380A@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Baldwin wrote: > > On 15-Sep-01 Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > with the latest KSE commits and a sys directory that's not part of /usr/src , > > I > > had to disable linux compat && osf1 modules from building for Alpha. > > Also, gdb's kvm-fbsd.c still has a p_addr reference. The code in question is > rather different from the equivalent x86 code in gdb, and I'm not sure how to > go about fixing it. What tree are you looking at? I fixed this on friday morning: peter 2001/09/14 04:08:44 PDT Modified files: gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb/alpha kvm-fbsd.c Log: Update this to compile on the Alpha. Revision Changes Path 1.4 +3 -3 src/gnu/usr.bin/binutils/gdb/alpha/kvm-fbsd.c You posted this around 30 hours after this commit.. (9:40am 2001/09/15 PDT) However, there is still a problem. It compiles but is looking up an old symbol, I will be fixing this in the next few hours. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Sep 15 20:31:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9214A37B407 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 20:31:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA25838 for ; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 23:31:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f8G3V0m34683; Sat, 15 Sep 2001 23:31:00 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15268.7411.918153.713896@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 23:30:59 -0400 (EDT) To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: successful 4.4rc4 install on dec 3305 In-Reply-To: <20010915105252.A53451@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <0109150313040U.19946@orca.brodie.hn.org> <20010915094242.A55879@freebie.xs4all.nl> <20010915105252.A53451@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien writes: > On Sat, Sep 15, 2001 at 09:42:42AM +0200, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > Is this significant? Things seem to be running fine.... > > > > EV4 optimized (for what gcc Alpha optimisations are worth) code runs fine on > > EV5 & EV6. Maybe not as quick. > > And some have speculated that EV4 "optimized" code may in fact be > incorrect code. I.e., "gcc -O2 -mcpu=ev4" may generate more incorrect > code than it would for "gcc -O2 -mcpu=ev5". Do you mean ev56? From Doug's experiences building kde? Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message