From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 2 10:23:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mailout00.sul.t-online.de (mailout00.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10C637B419 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 10:23:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from fwd04.sul.t-online.de by mailout00.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 16AbGh-0002QX-05; Sun, 02 Dec 2001 19:23:11 +0100 Received: from rebecca (320063858491-0001@[217.83.161.107]) by fwd04.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 16AbGY-0kTXV2C; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 19:23:02 +0100 From: Thomas.Kovacs@t-online.de (Thomas Kovacs) To: "'Andrew Gallatin'" Cc: Subject: AW: AW: as2100 unexpected machine check while installing Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 19:26:19 -0800 Message-ID: <000601c17baa$469940b0$0100a8c0@rebecca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 In-Reply-To: <15354.59337.494359.287133@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal X-Sender: 320063858491-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Me again... Back from holydays I tried to install FreeBSD on the alpha (AS2100 5/300). As I said before, I was able to boot. But with your disks the system is not recognizing my CD drive :( . Unfortunately the ftp installation is also not working :(( . The CD is connected to the NCR SCSI adapter. I also connected a HDD to the controller because of the problems with the Mylex controller (it is PCI). My whish for Christmas would be a set of boot floppies which support my DAC960, my NCR SCSI controller and with SCSI CD support. Is this possible? I'm willing to send out some fine German Christmas beer (strong, but good :). With best hopes, Thomas -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: Andrew Gallatin [mailto:gallatin@cs.duke.edu]=20 Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. November 2001 15:31 An: Thomas Kovacs Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Betreff: Re: AW: as2100 unexpected machine check while installing Thomas Kovacs writes: > Thx a lot. I am able to boot now. One more question: can I somehow use > my Mylex to install, or do I have to use the Symbios controller to > install a system? You could install from a Mylex iff its a PCI Mylex, and its recognized by the SRM. And if you have Mylex support in the boot floppy, which you don't because I was trying to make the floppy as small as possible. Now that I've got the AS2100s working better, we should probably build a -stable snapshot to make things easier for people like you. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 2 12: 1: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10ADE37B416 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 12:00:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA08028; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 15:00:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id fB2K0Qw07308; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 15:00:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15370.34906.312937.58617@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 15:00:26 -0500 (EST) To: Thomas.Kovacs@t-online.de (Thomas Kovacs) Cc: Subject: Re: AW: AW: as2100 unexpected machine check while installing In-Reply-To: <000601c17baa$469940b0$0100a8c0@rebecca> References: <15354.59337.494359.287133@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <000601c17baa$469940b0$0100a8c0@rebecca> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thomas Kovacs writes: > Me again... > > Back from holydays I tried to install FreeBSD on the alpha (AS2100 > 5/300). As I said before, I was able to boot. But with your disks the > system is not recognizing my CD drive :( . Unfortunately the ftp Eh? I've never heard of that before. Can you post the output from boot -v? > installation is also not working :(( . The CD is connected to the NCR > SCSI adapter. I also connected a HDD to the controller because of the > problems with the Mylex controller (it is PCI). > > My whish for Christmas would be a set of boot floppies which support my > DAC960, my NCR SCSI controller and with SCSI CD support. > > Is this possible? > I'm willing to send out some fine German Christmas beer (strong, but > good :). > Wilko mentioned something about building an alpha snapshot last week. Perhaps he could post the install floppies.. That would be the easiest thing. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 2 12:52:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BBA037B405; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 12:52:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB2KpWB91242; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 21:51:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2001 21:51:32 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Andrew Gallatin , obrien@freebsd.org Cc: Thomas Kovacs , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: AW: AW: as2100 unexpected machine check while installing Message-ID: <20011202215132.B91202@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <15354.59337.494359.287133@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <000601c17baa$469940b0$0100a8c0@rebecca> <15370.34906.312937.58617@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15370.34906.312937.58617@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 03:00:26PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 03:00:26PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Thomas Kovacs writes: > > Me again... > > > > Back from holydays I tried to install FreeBSD on the alpha (AS2100 > > 5/300). As I said before, I was able to boot. But with your disks the > > system is not recognizing my CD drive :( . Unfortunately the ftp > > Eh? I've never heard of that before. Can you post the output from > boot -v? > > > Is this possible? > > I'm willing to send out some fine German Christmas beer (strong, but > > good :). > > > > Wilko mentioned something about building an alpha snapshot last week. > Perhaps he could post the install floppies.. That would be the > easiest thing. I built a snapshot, after David trimmed the bootfloppy kernel (again..) that worked OK. I'm waiting for David to tell me where he wants the snapshot to go (it is destined for ftp-master I think). Wilko -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 2 23:46:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.baerum.kommune.no (mail.baerum.kommune.no [195.134.40.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3CFF837B417 for ; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 23:46:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from SA-D01-Message_Server by mail.baerum.kommune.no with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 03 Dec 2001 08:46:35 +0100 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 08:46:08 +0100 From: "Idar Tollefsen" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Stable build breakage on the alpha Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >>>> out the RELENG_4 branch. =20 >>> No, but my make buildkernel fails and now says it doesn't know how >>> to make cleandir after cleaning out in modules. This startert about >>> a week and half to two weeks ago. >>I have committed a fix for this in revision 1.47.2.11 of >>sys/conf/Makefile.alpha. >Excellent! Great!!! :-)) >I'll go grab it as soon as I get home. Worked like a charm! Thanks again :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Dec 2 23:54:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7DB837B405; Sun, 2 Dec 2001 23:54:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB37rtk93529; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 08:53:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 08:53:55 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Andrew Gallatin , obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Thomas Kovacs , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: AW: AW: as2100 unexpected machine check while installing Message-ID: <20011203085355.A93421@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <15354.59337.494359.287133@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <000601c17baa$469940b0$0100a8c0@rebecca> <15370.34906.312937.58617@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20011202215132.B91202@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011202215132.B91202@freebie.xs4all.nl>; from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl on Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 09:51:32PM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 09:51:32PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 03:00:26PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > Thomas Kovacs writes: > > > Me again... > > > > > > Back from holydays I tried to install FreeBSD on the alpha (AS2100 > > > 5/300). As I said before, I was able to boot. But with your disks the > > > system is not recognizing my CD drive :( . Unfortunately the ftp > > > > > I'm willing to send out some fine German Christmas beer (strong, but > > > good :). > > > > > > > Wilko mentioned something about building an alpha snapshot last week. > > Perhaps he could post the install floppies.. That would be the > > easiest thing. > > I built a snapshot, after David trimmed the bootfloppy kernel (again..) > that worked OK. I'm waiting for David to tell me where he wants the > snapshot to go (it is destined for ftp-master I think). For now it (the miniinst.iso; disc2.iso is still uploading) is as http://people.freebsd.org/~wilko/alpha-snap I'm waiting for David's input on how to get it on ftp-master. Wilko [who likes German beer BTW ;) ] -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 3 10:26:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mailout00.sul.t-online.de (mailout00.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2564137B417; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 10:26:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from fwd04.sul.t-online.de by mailout00.sul.t-online.de with smtp id 16AwX2-00050i-0B; Mon, 03 Dec 2001 18:05:28 +0100 Received: from rebecca (320063858491-0001@[217.83.163.146]) by fwd04.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 16AwWj-0Pkp0KC; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 18:05:09 +0100 From: Thomas.Kovacs@t-online.de (Thomas Kovacs) To: "'Wilko Bulte'" , "'Andrew Gallatin'" , Cc: Subject: AW: AW: AW: as2100 unexpected machine check while installing Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 18:08:29 -0800 Message-ID: <000201c17c68$91e65940$0100a8c0@rebecca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2616 In-Reply-To: <20011203085355.A93421@freebie.xs4all.nl> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Sender: 320063858491-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks, download started. Results tomorrow. -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- Von: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG] Im Auftrag von Wilko Bulte Gesendet: Sonntag, 2. Dezember 2001 23:54 An: Andrew Gallatin; obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: Thomas Kovacs; freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Betreff: Re: AW: AW: as2100 unexpected machine check while installing On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 09:51:32PM +0100, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Sun, Dec 02, 2001 at 03:00:26PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > >=20 > > Thomas Kovacs writes: > > > Me again... > > >=20 > > > Back from holydays I tried to install FreeBSD on the alpha (AS2100 > > > 5/300). As I said before, I was able to boot. But with your disks the > > > system is not recognizing my CD drive :( . Unfortunately the ftp > >=20 > > > I'm willing to send out some fine German Christmas beer (strong, but > > > good :). > > >=20 > >=20 > > Wilko mentioned something about building an alpha snapshot last week. > > Perhaps he could post the install floppies.. That would be the > > easiest thing. >=20 > I built a snapshot, after David trimmed the bootfloppy kernel (again..) > that worked OK. I'm waiting for David to tell me where he wants the > snapshot to go (it is destined for ftp-master I think). For now it (the miniinst.iso; disc2.iso is still uploading) is as http://people.freebsd.org/~wilko/alpha-snap I'm waiting for David's input on how to get it on ftp-master. Wilko [who likes German beer BTW ;) ] --=20 | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands=09 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 3 10:45:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61D6C37B419 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 10:45:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 19:45:14 +0100 Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FDA17E@l04.research.kpn.com> From: "Koster, K.J." To: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: as2100 saga continues: memory trouble? *sigh* Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 19:45:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear All, I found some time again to fight with the old AS2100. It's now taken out of the development cycle of our project (thank goodness), and I'm only continuing because I cannot stand a machine that resists me installing FreeBSD on it. :-) When I type "show memory" on the monitor prompt I see that I have one memory board with 128MB (which is good) but it also says "bad pages 4096" (which I suspect is bad). I cannot remove the one board, for obvious reasons. Does this mean my box is borked? If the memory board is broken how much for a new one, and where to get one? I removed all excess hardware (mylex controller, de422 board, second CPU board, tape streamer), but still no luck. Kees Jan ===================================================== You can't have everything. Where would you put it? [Steven Wright] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 3 10:52:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 148E837B416 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 10:52:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB3Iqlp95348; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 19:52:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 19:52:47 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Koster, K.J." Cc: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: as2100 saga continues: memory trouble? *sigh* Message-ID: <20011203195247.A95334@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FDA17E@l04.research.kpn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FDA17E@l04.research.kpn.com>; from K.J.Koster@kpn.com on Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 07:45:13PM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 07:45:13PM +0100, Koster, K.J. wrote: > Dear All, > > I found some time again to fight with the old AS2100. It's now taken out of > the development cycle of our project (thank goodness), and I'm only > continuing because I cannot stand a machine that resists me installing > FreeBSD on it. :-) > > When I type "show memory" on the monitor prompt I see that I have one memory > board with 128MB (which is good) but it also says "bad pages 4096" (which I > suspect is bad). I cannot remove the one board, for obvious reasons. > Does this mean my box is borked? If the memory board is broken how much for > a new one, and where to get one? You are in deep sh* ... I had a similar AS2100A memory problem and while VMS is smart enough to not use the bad pages, FreeBSD is not as smart. You will need to get a working memory board. Wilko [who now regrets having canned the AS2100A] -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 3 11: 1:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8929737B41A for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 11:01:15 -0800 (PST) Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 20:01:14 +0100 Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FDA180@l04.research.kpn.com> From: "Koster, K.J." To: 'Wilko Bulte' Cc: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: as2100 saga continues: memory trouble? *sigh* Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 20:01:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Wilko, > > > When I type "show memory" on the monitor prompt I see that > > I have one memory > > board with 128MB (which is good) but it also says "bad > > pages 4096" (which I > > suspect is bad). I cannot remove the one board, for obvious > > reasons. > > You are in deep sh* ... > Yeah, I was just in denial. Thanks for slapping me out of it. > > I had a similar AS2100A memory problem and while VMS is smart > enough to not use the bad pages, FreeBSD is not as smart. You > will need to get a working memory board. > Ok. I know that the topic of in-kernel bad RAM testers/ignorers has been flogged to death repeatedly. I distinctly remember arguing that they are unneccessary when you always buy memory boards in pairs. Stung by my own ignorance. Suppose that I know the bad memory range, any way of telling FreeBSD not to use it? Perhaps abuse the option ROM device to claim that memory range for itself? > > [who now regrets having canned the AS2100A] > Grr... :) Kees Jan ===================================================== You can't have everything. Where would you put it? [Steven Wright] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 3 11:14:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E23F37B416 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 11:14:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07273; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 14:14:07 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id fB3JDfj32190; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 14:13:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15371.52965.269328.817708@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 14:13:41 -0500 (EST) To: "Koster, K.J." Cc: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: as2100 saga continues: memory trouble? *sigh* In-Reply-To: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FDA180@l04.research.kpn.com> References: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FDA180@l04.research.kpn.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Koster, K.J. writes: > Dear Wilko, > > > > > > When I type "show memory" on the monitor prompt I see that > > > I have one memory > > > board with 128MB (which is good) but it also says "bad > > > pages 4096" (which I > > > suspect is bad). I cannot remove the one board, for obvious > > > reasons. > > > > You are in deep sh* ... > > > Yeah, I was just in denial. Thanks for slapping me out of it. I see boards on Ebay now & then.. > > Suppose that I know the bad memory range, any way of telling FreeBSD not to > use it? Perhaps abuse the option ROM device to claim that memory range for > itself? Perhaps we should be using the pg_test field for memory clusters on some platforms. I'd be interested in seeing what it said for a machine w/bad ram. If you can build a kernel, can you #define DEBUG_CLUSTER and print out the memc->mddt_pg_test field in the MEMC printf(). Sample, mailer mangled patch below. Drew Index: machdep.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/alpha/alpha/machdep.c,v retrieving revision 1.68.2.14 diff -u -c -r1.68.2.14 machdep.c *** machdep.c 2001/10/04 13:09:36 1.68.2.14 --- machdep.c 2001/12/03 19:07:04 *************** *** 836,843 **** for (i = 0; i < mddtp->mddt_cluster_cnt; i++) { memc = &mddtp->mddt_clusters[i]; #ifdef DEBUG_CLUSTER ! printf("MEMC %d: pfn 0x%lx cnt 0x%lx usage 0x%lx\n", i, ! memc->mddt_pfn, memc->mddt_pg_cnt, memc->mddt_usage); #endif totalphysmem += memc->mddt_pg_cnt; --- 836,844 ---- for (i = 0; i < mddtp->mddt_cluster_cnt; i++) { memc = &mddtp->mddt_clusters[i]; #ifdef DEBUG_CLUSTER ! printf("MEMC %d: pfn 0x%lx cnt 0x%lx tested 0x$lx usage 0x%lx\n", i, ! memc->mddt_pfn, memc->mddt_pg_cnt, memc->mddt_pg_test, ! memc->mddt_usage); #endif totalphysmem += memc->mddt_pg_cnt; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 3 11:36:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31B3A37B405 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 11:36:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB3JaeQ95622; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 20:36:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 20:36:40 +0100 From: "'Wilko Bulte'" To: "Koster, K.J." Cc: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: as2100 saga continues: memory trouble? *sigh* Message-ID: <20011203203640.A95579@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FDA180@l04.research.kpn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FDA180@l04.research.kpn.com>; from K.J.Koster@kpn.com on Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 08:01:13PM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Dec 03, 2001 at 08:01:13PM +0100, Koster, K.J. wrote: > > > board with 128MB (which is good) but it also says "bad > > > pages 4096" (which I > > > suspect is bad). I cannot remove the one board, for obvious > > > reasons. > > > > You are in deep sh* ... > > > Yeah, I was just in denial. Thanks for slapping me out of it. You're welcome. > unneccessary when you always buy memory boards in pairs. Stung by my own > ignorance. > > Suppose that I know the bad memory range, any way of telling FreeBSD not to > use it? Perhaps abuse the option ROM device to claim that memory range for > itself? Not out of the box, that I know off. > > [who now regrets having canned the AS2100A] > > > Grr... :) Yes. I mean, I have been standing with the boards in my hands, pondering what to do with them. -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 3 14: 6:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from felix.cheetahusa.net (felix.cheetahusa.net [216.133.11.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB44037B405 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 14:06:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from falcon (falcon.cheetahusa.net [192.168.10.139]) by felix.cheetahusa.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fB3M6fG48058 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 14:06:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from craig@CheetahUSA.net) From: "Craig Burgess" To: Subject: 4.4-RELEASE - XFree - netscape + gnome problems Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 14:10:29 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I did not locate a port of Netscape which would install. The tar file for Tru64 from Compaq almost worked except that it would not resolve a URL. I had both 'netscape-wrapper' & 'netscape-remote' installed from long ago but couldn't make the pieces play together. Then I found a package for Netscape-4.76 which **did** install and required netscape-wrapper & netscape-remote and it all seemed to go fine except -- it still doesn't resolve a URL. In .cshrc I have 'setenv MOZILLA_HOME /usr/local/lib/netscape' If this is enough information, what can I do to make it work? -------------------------------------------------------- Next: Anything I've tried to install which requires Gnome fails - Attempting to install ICEWM: configure:7753: cc -o conftest -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wu nused -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include/ glib 12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/X11R6/lib conftest.c -L/usr /local/lib 1>&5 /tmp/ccoKog09.o: In function `main': /tmp/ccoKog09.o(.text+0x8): undefined reference to `_nl_msg_cat_cntr' configure: failed program was: #line 7745 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" int main() { extern int _nl_msg_cat_cntr; return _nl_msg_cat_cntr ; return 0; } configure:8030: checking for catalogs to be installed configure:8141: checking ORBit version (end of "config.log") *** Error code 1 ------------------------------ So I deinstalled/reinstalled ORBit (to ORBit-0.5.12) with this result on Icewm: configure:8940: warning: int format, pointer arg (arg 3) configure:8983: checking for gnome-libs >= 1.2.7 configure:8994: checking for Oaf >= 0.6.7 (end of "config.log") *** Error code 1 ------------------------------ This is where sawfish failed the first time: configure:8945: cc -o conftest -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/include/ orbit-1.0 -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wunused -I/usr/loc al/i nclude -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/local/i nclu de -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/X11R6/lib conftest.c -L/usr/local/lib 1>&5 configure:8937: warning: return-type defaults to `int' configure: In function `main': configure:8940: warning: int format, pointer arg (arg 3) configure:8983: checking for gnome-libs >= 1.2.7 configure:8994: checking for Oaf >= 0.6.7 (end of "config.log") *** Error code 1 ------------------------------ --- and after reinstalling ORBit: orbit-1.0 -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wunused -I/usr/loc al/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include/glib12 -I/usr/loc al/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/X11R6/lib onftest.c -L/usr/local/lib 1>&5 configure:8937: warning: return-type defaults to `int' configure: In function `main': configure:8940: warning: int format, pointer arg (arg 3) configure:8983: checking for gnome-libs >= 1.2.7 configure:8994: checking for Oaf >= 0.6.7 (end of "config.log") *** Error code 1 ------------------------------ attempt to install bonobo seperately: /tmp/ccn1nqe3.o: In function `main': /tmp/ccn1nqe3.o(.text+0x8): undefined reference to `_nl_msg_cat_cntr' configure: failed program was: #line 7745 "configure" #include "confdefs.h" int main() { extern int _nl_msg_cat_cntr; return _nl_msg_cat_cntr ; return 0; } configure:8030: checking for catalogs to be installed configure:8141: checking ORBit version (end of "config.log") *** Error code 1 ------------------------------ Is there something I can look for or fix to make these work? (I'm still not a programmer) thanks, craig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 3 14:17:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C513D37B405 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 14:17:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA13666; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 17:17:37 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id fB3MHBD33545; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 17:17:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15371.63974.968069.162988@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 17:17:10 -0500 (EST) To: "Craig Burgess" Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.4-RELEASE - XFree - netscape + gnome problems In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Craig Burgess writes: > I did not locate a port of Netscape which would install. The tar file for > Tru64 from Compaq almost worked except that it would not resolve a URL. > > I had both 'netscape-wrapper' & 'netscape-remote' installed from long ago > but couldn't make the pieces play together. > > Then I found a package for Netscape-4.76 which **did** install and required > netscape-wrapper & netscape-remote and it all seemed to go fine except -- it > still doesn't resolve a URL. > > In .cshrc I have 'setenv MOZILLA_HOME /usr/local/lib/netscape' > > If this is enough information, what can I do to make it work? 4.77 installed from ports ages ago works just great. Can you define 'doesn't resolve a URL' -- you mean DNS doesn't work for OSF/1 progs? What's in your /etc/resov.conf? (or /compat/osf/etc/resolv.conf, iff it exists; it shoudn't exist) And does /compat/osf/etc/svc.conf list hosts as: hosts=local,bind,yp Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 3 15: 8:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from felix.cheetahusa.net (felix.cheetahusa.net [216.133.11.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A1237B419 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 15:08:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from falcon (falcon.cheetahusa.net [192.168.10.139]) by felix.cheetahusa.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fB3N8AG48175; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 15:08:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from craig@CheetahUSA.net) From: "Craig Burgess" To: "Andrew Gallatin" Cc: Subject: RE: 4.4-RELEASE - XFree - netscape + gnome problems Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 15:11:59 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <15371.63974.968069.162988@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Gallatin [mailto:gallatin@cs.duke.edu] Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 2:17 PM To: Craig Burgess Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.4-RELEASE - XFree - netscape + gnome problems Craig Burgess writes: > I did not locate a port of Netscape which would install. The tar file for > Tru64 from Compaq almost worked except that it would not resolve a URL. > > I had both 'netscape-wrapper' & 'netscape-remote' installed from long ago > but couldn't make the pieces play together. > > Then I found a package for Netscape-4.76 which **did** install and required > netscape-wrapper & netscape-remote and it all seemed to go fine except -- it > still doesn't resolve a URL. > > In .cshrc I have 'setenv MOZILLA_HOME /usr/local/lib/netscape' > > If this is enough information, what can I do to make it work? 4.77 installed from ports ages ago works just great. Thanks and darn! (I think) I tried the ports for bsdi-netscape47-communicator.us AND netscape47-communicator.us AND linux-netscape47-communicator & all refused for one reason or another. Can you define 'doesn't resolve a URL' -- you mean DNS doesn't work for OSF/1 progs? Exactly: DNS doesn't work in Netscape Communicator. Ping works in a terminal window for a machine name and the browser works with an IP address. What's in your /etc/resov.conf? (or /compat/osf/etc/resolv.conf, iff it exists; it shoudn't exist) /etc/resolv.conf : domain mydomain.net search nameserver ns1.thenameserver.com nameserver ns5.thenameserver.com (resolf.conf contains genuine values) I am not running local DNS - only a slave zone. /compat/osf/etc/resolv.conf does **not** exist And does /compat/osf/etc/svc.conf list hosts as: hosts=local,bind,yp Drew YES, it does. thanks, craig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 3 15:26:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 125D337B417 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 15:26:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA15546; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 18:26:49 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id fB3NQN833632; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 18:26:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15372.2591.372489.124182@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 18:26:23 -0500 (EST) To: "Craig Burgess" Cc: Subject: RE: 4.4-RELEASE - XFree - netscape + gnome problems In-Reply-To: References: <15371.63974.968069.162988@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Craig Burgess writes: > > What's in your /etc/resov.conf? (or /compat/osf/etc/resolv.conf, iff > it exists; it shoudn't exist) > > /etc/resolv.conf : > domain mydomain.net > search > nameserver ns1.thenameserver.com > nameserver ns5.thenameserver.com Try getting rid of that null search line. The Tru64 resolver library is rather fragile. Not much FreeBSD can do about that.. Eg, on my machine: % cat /etc/resolv.conf search cs.duke.edu freebsd.org nameserver 65.24.0.167 nameserver 65.24.0.166 % Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Dec 3 16:25:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from felix.cheetahusa.net (felix.cheetahusa.net [216.133.11.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E718F37B405 for ; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:25:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from falcon (falcon.cheetahusa.net [192.168.10.139]) by felix.cheetahusa.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fB40PIG48529; Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:25:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from craig@CheetahUSA.net) From: "Craig Burgess" To: "Andrew Gallatin" Cc: Subject: RE: 4.4-RELEASE - XFree - netscape + gnome problems Date: Mon, 3 Dec 2001 16:29:07 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <15372.2591.372489.124182@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Craig Burgess writes: > > What's in your /etc/resov.conf? (or /compat/osf/etc/resolv.conf, iff > it exists; it shoudn't exist) > > /etc/resolv.conf : > domain mydomain.net > search > nameserver ns1.thenameserver.com > nameserver ns5.thenameserver.com Try getting rid of that null search line. The Tru64 resolver library is rather fragile. Not much FreeBSD can do about that.. Eg, on my machine: % cat /etc/resolv.conf search cs.duke.edu freebsd.org nameserver 65.24.0.167 nameserver 65.24.0.166 % Drew I changed it to >search felix.cheetahusa.net nameserver 207.228.252.101 nameserver 207.41.71.245 with no better luck. (However, if it matters, I didn't restart anything.) craig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Dec 4 1: 9:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from l04.research.kpn.com (l04.research.kpn.com [139.63.192.204]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B3437B405 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 01:09:30 -0800 (PST) Received: by l04.research.kpn.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 10:09:29 +0100 Message-ID: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FDA185@l04.research.kpn.com> From: "Koster, K.J." To: 'Wilko Bulte' Cc: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: as2100 saga continues: memory trouble? *sigh* Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 10:09:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear All, > > > > [who now regrets having canned the AS2100A] > > > > > Grr... :) > > Yes. I mean, I have been standing with the boards in my > hands, pondering what to do with them. > There is an iron law that the only way to truly know if you need something is to throw it away permanently. Kees Jan ===================================================== You can't have everything. Where would you put it? [Steven Wright] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Dec 4 6: 9:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F2037B416 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 06:09:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02322; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 09:09:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id fB4E8on35186; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 09:08:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15372.55538.836210.584157@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 09:08:50 -0500 (EST) To: "Craig Burgess" Cc: Subject: RE: 4.4-RELEASE - XFree - netscape + gnome problems In-Reply-To: References: <15372.2591.372489.124182@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Craig Burgess writes: > I changed it to > >search felix.cheetahusa.net > nameserver 207.228.252.101 > nameserver 207.41.71.245 > > with no better luck. (However, if it matters, I didn't restart anything.) > PLEASE use a mailer that does something to identify which comments are yours & which are those of the person you're replying to. Do your DNS servers actually work? % host www.netscape.com 207.41.71.245 Using domain server 207.41.71.245: % I've forgotten most of what I used to know about DNS, so I don't know what a null, non-error response means. For grins, try using my exact resolv.conf. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Dec 4 11:19:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B03C37B41C; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:19:17 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wilko@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB4JDdZ24978; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:13:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wilko) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:13:39 -0800 (PST) From: Message-Id: <200112041913.fB4JDdZ24978@freefall.freebsd.org> To: wilko@freebsd.org, wilko@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: alpha/30485: out of diskspace errors on 4.4RC4 Alpha during sysinstall Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: out of diskspace errors on 4.4RC4 Alpha during sysinstall State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: wilko State-Changed-When: Tue Dec 4 11:12:28 PST 2001 State-Changed-Why: Bug apparantly fixed somewhere down the line. No longer reproducible when testing my Nov30, 2001 home-grown -stable buildrelease snapshot. http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=30485 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Dec 4 14:43: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from felix.cheetahusa.net (felix.cheetahusa.net [216.133.11.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FF2337B419 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:42:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from falcon (falcon.cheetahusa.net [192.168.10.139]) by felix.cheetahusa.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fB4Mgca00812; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:42:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from craig@CheetahUSA.net) From: "Craig Burgess" To: "Andrew Gallatin" Cc: Subject: RE: 4.4-RELEASE - XFree - netscape + gnome problems Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:46:32 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <15372.55538.836210.584157@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I *did* use your exact resolv.conf and -- IT WORKED!! (gak) Now I would expect to be able to replace your specific info with my own but -- it's all working so I'm leaving it alone for the moment. Thank you! craig (who turned on quoting) > -----Original Message----- > From: Andrew Gallatin [mailto:gallatin@cs.duke.edu] > Sent: Tuesday, December 04, 2001 6:09 AM > To: Craig Burgess > Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: 4.4-RELEASE - XFree - netscape + gnome problems > > > > Craig Burgess writes: > > I changed it to > > >search felix.cheetahusa.net > > nameserver 207.228.252.101 > > nameserver 207.41.71.245 > > > > with no better luck. (However, if it matters, I didn't > restart anything.) > > > > PLEASE use a mailer that does something to identify which comments are > yours & which are those of the person you're replying to. > > Do your DNS servers actually work? > > % host www.netscape.com 207.41.71.245 > Using domain server 207.41.71.245: > % > > I've forgotten most of what I used to know about DNS, so I don't know > what a null, non-error response means. > > For grins, try using my exact resolv.conf. > > Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Dec 4 14:57:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9457D37B416 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 14:57:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA17617; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 17:57:08 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id fB4Mug338038; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 17:56:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15373.21674.878247.904328@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 17:56:42 -0500 (EST) To: "Craig Burgess" Cc: Subject: Re: 4.4-RELEASE - XFree - netscape + gnome problems In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Craig Burgess writes: > > -------------------------------------------------------- > Next: Anything I've tried to install which requires Gnome fails - > Attempting to install ICEWM: > > configure:7753: cc -o > conftest -O -pipe -mcpu=ev4 -I/usr/X11R6/include -Wall -Wu > nused -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include/gtk12 -I/usr/local/include/ > glib > 12 -I/usr/local/include -I/usr/X11R6/include -L/usr/X11R6/lib > conftest.c -L/usr > /local/lib 1>&5 > /tmp/ccoKog09.o: In function `main': > /tmp/ccoKog09.o(.text+0x8): undefined reference to `_nl_msg_cat_cntr' > configure: failed program was: > #line 7745 "configure" > #include "confdefs.h" Sometimes some of the ports don't have up-to-date depandancy lists & fail in configure. I don't know enough about gnu configure or FreeBSD ports to comment intelligently. You should probably resend this (minus the netscape resolver issues) to either freebsd-ports@freebsd.org or freebsd-gnome@freebsd. You mgiht want to tell them what packages you have installed (ls /var/db/pkg). It may also be a good idea to grab the latest version of the ports tree via cvsup before contacting anybody. FWIW, I'm using my alpha as my desktop machine with gnome-1.4, built last August. It took me the better part of a week to get it building (most was thumb-twiddling while it built). I contributed patches to get the alpha build working to the gnome@ people. I think most were integrated, so gnome should build, but I haven't tried it since I don't want to kill my working setup. BTW, If you have an ev56 (21164A) or better, set CPUTYPE=ev56 in /etc/make.conf Some ports compile with -O2. gcc -O2 is suspected of creating buggy code on alphas when gcc has to do shifty/masky to access memory at byte or word granularitues. CPUTYPE=ev56 tells gcc to use the byte-word instructions which are present in ev56 and better & leads to better code. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Dec 4 20:26: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4037C37B405 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 20:26:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fB54PqM77412; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 20:25:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 20:25:52 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Craig Burgess , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.4-RELEASE - XFree - netscape + gnome problems Message-ID: <20011204202552.A74415@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <15373.21674.878247.904328@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15373.21674.878247.904328@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 05:56:42PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 05:56:42PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Some ports compile with -O2. gcc -O2 is suspected of creating buggy > code on alphas when gcc has to do shifty/masky to access memory at > byte or word granularitues. Mentioning, adding: WANT_FORCE_OPTIMIZATION_DOWNGRADE=yes to /etc/make.conf here is beneficial. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Dec 4 22:58: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from post1.uk.gts-ebusiness.net (silenus.uk.gts-ebusiness.net [194.42.236.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4638D37B405 for ; Tue, 4 Dec 2001 22:57:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from [213.141.147.25] (helo=nt4mail.garmann.se) by post1.uk.gts-ebusiness.net with esmtp (Exim 3.15 #2) id 16BVf1-0007Ky-00; Wed, 05 Dec 2001 06:36:03 +0000 Received: from mta.excite.com (11Cust211.tnt4.plano.tx.da.uu.net [67.203.104.211]) by nt4mail.garmann.se with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id VG3TTVVH; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 07:36:46 +0100 Message-ID: <000049ae6f3f$00004ba7$000033e1@mta.excite.com> To: From: RichMedia2@excite.com Subject: Rich Media E-Mail Messages At The Price Of HTML RH Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 00:36:26 -1800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Reply-To: RichMedia7@excite.com Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org
  
 

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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 5:10:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from styx.ham01.thiemo.net (port-213-20-65-35.reverse.qdsl-home.de [213.20.65.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1A3237B416 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 05:10:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from thiemo@localhost) by styx.ham01.thiemo.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB5DA4709590; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 14:10:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from thiemo) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 14:10:03 +0100 From: Thiemo Nordenholz To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: mprotect() takes quite long -- anyone knows this? Message-ID: <20011205141002.A9571@mygiea.ham01.thiemo.net> References: <20011126132537.A10631@kiste.thiemo.net> <15363.40592.297351.517250@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15363.40592.297351.517250@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 09:09:20AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Andrew, hi list, > src/libexec/rtld-elf/alpha/reloc.c to 1.10.2.3 and rebuild your rtld. Yup, that fixed the problem. All nice and running well now :-) Thanks for the hint! > Does OpenBSD 2.3 even support shared libs? If it does, its rtld is > almost certain to be simpler.. It didn't :-) Cheers & smiles, Thiemo -- Thiemo Nordenholz http://www.thiemo.net "Computers are great at wasting time that would be otherwise be difficult to waste." -- Cliff Stoll To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 5:26: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4534C37B416; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 05:25:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id IAA04005; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:25:52 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id fB5DPRg45935; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:25:27 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15374.8263.560510.987767@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 08:25:27 -0500 (EST) To: obrien@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.4-RELEASE - XFree - netscape + gnome problems In-Reply-To: <20011204202552.A74415@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <15373.21674.878247.904328@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20011204202552.A74415@dragon.nuxi.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien writes: > On Tue, Dec 04, 2001 at 05:56:42PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Some ports compile with -O2. gcc -O2 is suspected of creating buggy > > code on alphas when gcc has to do shifty/masky to access memory at > > byte or word granularitues. > > Mentioning, adding: > > WANT_FORCE_OPTIMIZATION_DOWNGRADE=yes > > to /etc/make.conf here is beneficial. > Cool. I never knew about that myself. Would have saved me lots of time running find . -name Makefile -exec .... to s/O2/O in all of a ports Makefiles. Thanks for the tip. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 12:25:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.thebiz.net (mx1.thebiz.net [216.238.0.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B975937B417 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 12:25:49 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 30936 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2001 15:25:46 -0500 Received: from unknown (172.16.0.66) by 172.16.0.178 with QMQP; 5 Dec 2001 15:25:46 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO staff.noc.thebiz.net) (216.238.1.10) by mail.thebiz.net with SMTP; 5 Dec 2001 15:25:47 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:25:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Thomas P. Holmes [ Systems ]" X-Sender: tholmes@staff.noc.thebiz.net To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: disk slices Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've searched the archieve but I'm not 100% sure so I thought I would ask. I just did a fresh install of 4.4-Release throught the net using the floppy boot disks. When the drive was partitioned is created: /dev/da0a / /dev/da0b swap /dev/da0e /var /dev/da0f /usr Now I have a 4.3-RElease machine that I made world on to upgrade to 4.4-release and that is partitioned /dev/da0s1a / /dev/da0s1b swap /dev/da0s1e /var /dev/da0s1f /usr Did the "slicing" change from 4.3 to 4.4? So this is the message I found that was some what related, I just wanted to double check before I try to put this box into production. >> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 12:55:52 -0400 (EDT) >> From: Andrew Gallatin >> To: Theo Purmer (Tepucom) >> Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG >> Subject: Re: error booting after install on compaq ds20 >> Message-ID: <15218.49304.948837.16618@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> >> In-Reply-To: <200108080813.KAA33566@mail.tepucom.nl> >> References: <200108080813.KAA33566@mail.tepucom.nl> >> How did you lay out your disk paritions? FreeBSD's root (/) fs must be >> in the "a" partition, and the "a" partition must be the first one on >> the disk. Also, you must use a BSD disklabel and no fdisk slices (eg, >> root is /dev/da0a and not /dev/da0s1a). >> Drew Thanks! ________________ http://www.BiznessOnline.com ________________ Thomas Holmes Bizness Online Unix Systems Engineer Suite 1801 tholmes@thebiz.net 11 North Pearl St. (518) 533-6522 Albany, NY, 12207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 12:30:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 778C437B416 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 12:30:10 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB5KU7s05952; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 21:30:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 21:30:07 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Thomas P. Holmes [ Systems ]" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: disk slices Message-ID: <20011205213007.A5911@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from tholmes@thebiz.net on Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 03:25:47PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 03:25:47PM -0500, Thomas P. Holmes [ Systems ] wrote: > I've searched the archieve but I'm not 100% sure so I thought I would ask. > > I just did a fresh install of 4.4-Release throught the net using the > floppy boot disks. When the drive was partitioned is created: > > /dev/da0a / > /dev/da0b swap > /dev/da0e /var > /dev/da0f /usr > > Now I have a 4.3-RElease machine that I made world on to upgrade to > 4.4-release and that is partitioned > > /dev/da0s1a / > /dev/da0s1b swap > /dev/da0s1e /var > /dev/da0s1f /usr > > Did the "slicing" change from 4.3 to 4.4? > > So this is the message I found that was some what related, I just wanted > to double check before I try to put this box into production. The mail from Drew explains why Theo's box did not want to boot. Does your box boot? > >> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 12:55:52 -0400 (EDT) > >> From: Andrew Gallatin > >> To: Theo Purmer (Tepucom) > >> Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG > >> Subject: Re: error booting after install on compaq ds20 > >> Message-ID: <15218.49304.948837.16618@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> > >> In-Reply-To: <200108080813.KAA33566@mail.tepucom.nl> > >> References: <200108080813.KAA33566@mail.tepucom.nl> > > >> How did you lay out your disk paritions? FreeBSD's root (/) fs must be > >> in the "a" partition, and the "a" partition must be the first one on > >> the disk. Also, you must use a BSD disklabel and no fdisk slices (eg, > >> root is /dev/da0a and not /dev/da0s1a). -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 12:34: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.thebiz.net (mx1.thebiz.net [216.238.0.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 025E837B446 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 12:33:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 15304 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2001 15:33:53 -0500 Received: from unknown (172.16.0.72) by 172.16.0.178 with QMQP; 5 Dec 2001 15:33:53 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO staff.noc.thebiz.net) (216.238.1.10) by mail.thebiz.net with SMTP; 5 Dec 2001 15:33:54 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:33:54 -0500 (EST) From: "Thomas P. Holmes [ Systems ]" X-Sender: tholmes@staff.noc.thebiz.net To: Wilko Bulte Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: disk slices In-Reply-To: <20011205213007.A5911@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Yes my box boots and I was able to recompile the kernel. The df through me when I saw da0a da0e and not da0s1a da0s1e On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 03:25:47PM -0500, Thomas P. Holmes [ Systems ] wrote: > > > I've searched the archieve but I'm not 100% sure so I thought I would ask. > > > > I just did a fresh install of 4.4-Release throught the net using the > > floppy boot disks. When the drive was partitioned is created: > > > > /dev/da0a / > > /dev/da0b swap > > /dev/da0e /var > > /dev/da0f /usr > > > > Now I have a 4.3-RElease machine that I made world on to upgrade to > > 4.4-release and that is partitioned > > > > /dev/da0s1a / > > /dev/da0s1b swap > > /dev/da0s1e /var > > /dev/da0s1f /usr > > > > Did the "slicing" change from 4.3 to 4.4? > > > > So this is the message I found that was some what related, I just wanted > > to double check before I try to put this box into production. > > The mail from Drew explains why Theo's box did not want to boot. > Does your box boot? > > > > >> Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2001 12:55:52 -0400 (EDT) > > >> From: Andrew Gallatin > > >> To: Theo Purmer (Tepucom) > > >> Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG > > >> Subject: Re: error booting after install on compaq ds20 > > >> Message-ID: <15218.49304.948837.16618@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> > > >> In-Reply-To: <200108080813.KAA33566@mail.tepucom.nl> > > >> References: <200108080813.KAA33566@mail.tepucom.nl> > > > > >> How did you lay out your disk paritions? FreeBSD's root (/) fs must be > > >> in the "a" partition, and the "a" partition must be the first one on > > >> the disk. Also, you must use a BSD disklabel and no fdisk slices (eg, > > >> root is /dev/da0a and not /dev/da0s1a). > > -- > | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands > > ________________ http://www.BiznessOnline.com ________________ Thomas Holmes Bizness Online Unix Systems Engineer Suite 1801 tholmes@thebiz.net 11 North Pearl St. (518) 533-6522 Albany, NY, 12207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 12:41: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76C1237B405 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 12:41:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA17081; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:40:58 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id fB5KeX246454; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:40:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15374.34369.492419.52249@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:40:33 -0500 (EST) To: "Thomas P. Holmes [ Systems ]" Cc: Wilko Bulte , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: disk slices In-Reply-To: References: <20011205213007.A5911@freebie.xs4all.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thomas P. Holmes [ Systems ] writes: > Yes my box boots and I was able to recompile the kernel. > > The df through me when I saw > > da0a > da0e > > and not > > da0s1a > da0s1e > > The alpha port doesn't use slices (fdisk partitions) because the SRM console doesn't understand them & it cannot boot from them. The alpha port has never used slices. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 12:57:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.thebiz.net (mx1.thebiz.net [216.238.0.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A1A9837B41B for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 12:57:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 31432 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2001 15:57:23 -0500 Received: from unknown (172.16.0.80) by 172.16.0.178 with QMQP; 5 Dec 2001 15:57:23 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO staff.noc.thebiz.net) (216.238.1.10) by mail.thebiz.net with SMTP; 5 Dec 2001 15:57:24 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:57:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Thomas P. Holmes [ Systems ]" X-Sender: tholmes@staff.noc.thebiz.net To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Wilko Bulte , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: disk slices In-Reply-To: <15374.34369.492419.52249@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org alrighty then, I guess I'm just loosing my mind :) I will double check my 4.3->4.4 box and if the df shows the slice I will grab a screen shot! Thanks guys, you rule! On Wed, 5 Dec 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Thomas P. Holmes [ Systems ] writes: > > Yes my box boots and I was able to recompile the kernel. > > > > The df through me when I saw > > > > da0a > > da0e > > > > and not > > > > da0s1a > > da0s1e > > > > > > The alpha port doesn't use slices (fdisk partitions) because the SRM > console doesn't understand them & it cannot boot from them. The alpha > port has never used slices. > > Drew > > ________________ http://www.BiznessOnline.com ________________ Thomas Holmes Bizness Online Unix Systems Engineer Suite 1801 tholmes@thebiz.net 11 North Pearl St. (518) 533-6522 Albany, NY, 12207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 13:44: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from cassandra.coredump.at (cassandra.coredump.at [194.235.142.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8229337B416 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 13:43:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 11601 invoked by uid 1000); 5 Dec 2001 21:18:47 -0000 Message-ID: <20011205211847.17775.qmail@cassandra.coredump.at> From: rupp@coredump.at Subject: Install problem on AS200 4/166 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 22:18:46 +0100 (CET) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I am unable to install 4.4 on an AlphaStation 200 4/166 with TGA card (ZLXp-E1). Everything is fine until sometime during file copy. The box just freezes, the exact freezing point varies between tries. Only the halt button gets the machine out of that state. I tried the following configurations, each with a CD and with the files on a local ftp server: graphics console, serial console and serial console on the headless machine (took the card out). And I tried all of the above with and without soft update. No luck :-( The box runs VMS and Linux just fine, and it does heavy disk I/O and network traffic without problem under these OSes. RAM is 256MB. Any ideas? Wolfgang To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 13:57:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB1037B405 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 13:57:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA19257; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 16:57:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id fB5LuiZ47584; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 16:56:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15374.38940.42677.984388@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 16:56:44 -0500 (EST) To: rupp@coredump.at Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Install problem on AS200 4/166 In-Reply-To: <20011205211847.17775.qmail@cassandra.coredump.at> References: <20011205211847.17775.qmail@cassandra.coredump.at> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org rupp@coredump.at writes: > Hi all, > > I am unable to install 4.4 on an AlphaStation 200 4/166 with TGA > card (ZLXp-E1). Everything is fine until sometime during file copy. > The box just freezes, the exact freezing point varies between tries. > Only the halt button gets the machine out of that state. Are you using a serial console? TGA support isn't in 4.4-RELEASE If you want to actually be able to use the TGA for a graphics console, install from the mini-cdrom 4.4-STABLE snapshot at: http://people.freebsd.org/~wilko/alpha-snap/ Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 14: 2:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21CDA37B416 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 14:02:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA19477; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:02:38 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id fB5M2DG47605; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:02:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15374.39269.403872.837182@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:02:13 -0500 (EST) To: "Koster, K.J." Cc: "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: RE: as2100 saga continues: memory trouble? *sigh* In-Reply-To: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FDA180@l04.research.kpn.com> References: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FDA180@l04.research.kpn.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Koster, K.J. writes: > > Suppose that I know the bad memory range, any way of telling FreeBSD not to > use it? Perhaps abuse the option ROM device to claim that memory range for > itself? I have another idea.. install from Wilko's mininst CDROM. Alpha now (after 4.4-RELEASE) has support for setting hw.physmem to limit the amount of memory freebsd uses (settable from the boot loader). Try setting it to 32M & see if you make it through the install. If 32M are bad, the odds are good they're not in the 32MB you're going to use.. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 14: 6:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from cassandra.coredump.at (cassandra.coredump.at [194.235.142.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C732B37B41A for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 14:06:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 5887 invoked by uid 1000); 5 Dec 2001 21:41:22 -0000 Message-ID: <20011205214122.21525.qmail@cassandra.coredump.at> From: rupp@coredump.at Subject: Re: Install problem on AS200 4/166 In-Reply-To: <15374.38940.42677.984388@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> from Andrew Gallatin at "Dec 5, 2001 04:56:44 pm" To: Andrew Gallatin Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 22:41:22 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Are you using a serial console? I tried serial, graphics (i.e., text output on the graphics card), and headless (serial without any card). > TGA support isn't in 4.4-RELEASE > If you want to actually be able to use the TGA for a graphics console, If you mean "graphics console" as in "X", I don't care about X. If you mean "for text output", I don't understand. When I boot into the installation, it works, the kernel boots, and it comes to copying files. If I could not use TGA in any case, it should not work that far - should it? And it freezes with serial console also, anyway. Wolfgang To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 14:15: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F60B37B419 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 14:14:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA19780; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:14:51 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id fB5MEQM47627; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:14:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15374.40002.476399.463472@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:14:26 -0500 (EST) To: rupp@coredump.at Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Install problem on AS200 4/166 In-Reply-To: <20011205214122.21525.qmail@cassandra.coredump.at> References: <15374.38940.42677.984388@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20011205214122.21525.qmail@cassandra.coredump.at> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org rupp@coredump.at writes: > > Are you using a serial console? > > I tried serial, graphics (i.e., text output on the graphics card), > and headless (serial without any card). > > > TGA support isn't in 4.4-RELEASE > > If you want to actually be able to use the TGA for a graphics console, > > If you mean "graphics console" as in "X", I don't care about X. > If you mean "for text output", I don't understand. When I boot > into the installation, it works, the kernel boots, and it comes to > copying files. If I could not use TGA in any case, it should not work > that far - should it? It depends what you mean by "copying files" > And it freezes with serial console also, anyway. One of the most common question is from people who have TGAs, don't realize its unsupported, and get confused when they see output on the screen asking them to select a terminal type & the computer doesn't respond to their choice. If you're doing the installation on a serial console, this doesn't apply to you. Have you actually done 'set console serial' at the >>> prompt, booted FreeBSD, and started the installation purely on the serial console? Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 14:24:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from cassandra.coredump.at (cassandra.coredump.at [194.235.142.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 579AD37B405 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 14:24:13 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 296 invoked by uid 1000); 5 Dec 2001 21:58:57 -0000 Message-ID: <20011205215857.470.qmail@cassandra.coredump.at> From: rupp@coredump.at Subject: Re: Install problem on AS200 4/166 In-Reply-To: <15374.40002.476399.463472@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> from Andrew Gallatin at "Dec 5, 2001 05:14:26 pm" To: Andrew Gallatin Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 22:58:57 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > If you mean "for text output", I don't understand. When I boot > > into the installation, it works, the kernel boots, and it comes to > > copying files. If I could not use TGA in any case, it should not work > > that far - should it? > > It depends what you mean by "copying files" After all preliminary setup is done, the setup program starts to retrieve the distribution sets, extracts them and writes the actual files onto the disk. Sometime during this process, usually after several minutes, and never at the same point, the machine freezes. It's like the input was suddenly shut of with a valve. "extracting file - extracting file - ex..[dead]" > Have you actually done 'set console serial' at the >>> prompt, booted > FreeBSD, and started the installation purely on the serial console? Yes, then power cylce, and yes, purely on the serial console. Wolfgang To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 14:30:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 806B437B416 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 14:30:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA20078; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:30:19 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id fB5MTsv47725; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:29:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15374.40929.938605.806598@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:29:53 -0500 (EST) To: rupp@coredump.at Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Install problem on AS200 4/166 In-Reply-To: <20011205215857.470.qmail@cassandra.coredump.at> References: <15374.40002.476399.463472@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20011205215857.470.qmail@cassandra.coredump.at> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org rupp@coredump.at writes: > > > If you mean "for text output", I don't understand. When I boot > > > into the installation, it works, the kernel boots, and it comes to > > > copying files. If I could not use TGA in any case, it should not work > > > that far - should it? > > > > It depends what you mean by "copying files" > > After all preliminary setup is done, the setup program starts to > retrieve the distribution sets, extracts them and writes the actual > files onto the disk. Sometime during this process, usually after > several minutes, and never at the same point, the machine freezes. > > It's like the input was suddenly shut of with a valve. > "extracting file - extracting file - ex..[dead]" > > > Have you actually done 'set console serial' at the >>> prompt, booted > > FreeBSD, and started the installation purely on the serial console? > Yes, then power cylce, and yes, purely on the serial console. Sorry, then. I have no clue. Sounds like a hardware problem. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 14:38:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from cassandra.coredump.at (cassandra.coredump.at [194.235.142.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B936E37B405 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 14:38:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 17089 invoked by uid 1000); 5 Dec 2001 22:13:42 -0000 Message-ID: <20011205221342.16646.qmail@cassandra.coredump.at> From: rupp@coredump.at Subject: Re: Install problem on AS200 4/166 In-Reply-To: <15374.40929.938605.806598@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> from Andrew Gallatin at "Dec 5, 2001 05:29:53 pm" To: Andrew Gallatin Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 23:13:42 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Sorry, then. I have no clue. Sounds like a hardware problem. Thanks anyway. And I still hope it's _not_ a hardware problem. Wolfgang To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 14:48:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89A0037B417 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 14:48:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fB5MrMJ03766; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 14:53:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200112052253.fB5MrMJ03766@mass.dis.org> To: rupp@coredump.at Cc: Andrew Gallatin , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org, msmith@mass.dis.org Subject: Re: Install problem on AS200 4/166 In-Reply-To: Message from rupp@coredump.at of "Wed, 05 Dec 2001 23:13:42 +0100." <20011205221342.16646.qmail@cassandra.coredump.at> Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 14:53:22 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Sorry, then. I have no clue. Sounds like a hardware problem. > > Thanks anyway. And I still hope it's _not_ a hardware problem. > > Wolfgang I'm afraid that I have to agree with Drew; this sounds a lot like a CPU overheading problem. Are you sure you haven't tried to overclock this machine? A 166 will run at 200 or 233 for a short period of time under install-like load before overheating and shutting down. You may also have out-of-spec memory; I've seen similar symptoms in that case in other AXP systems. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 15:27:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9452437B419 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:27:26 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB5NQn308229; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 00:26:49 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 00:26:49 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: "Koster, K.J." , "'freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org'" Subject: Re: as2100 saga continues: memory trouble? *sigh* Message-ID: <20011206002649.B8067@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <59063B5B4D98D311BC0D0001FA7E452205FDA180@l04.research.kpn.com> <15374.39269.403872.837182@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15374.39269.403872.837182@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 05:02:13PM -0500 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 05:02:13PM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Koster, K.J. writes: > > > > Suppose that I know the bad memory range, any way of telling FreeBSD not to > > use it? Perhaps abuse the option ROM device to claim that memory range for > > itself? > > I have another idea.. install from Wilko's mininst CDROM. Alpha now > (after 4.4-RELEASE) has support for setting hw.physmem to limit the > amount of memory freebsd uses (settable from the boot loader). > > Try setting it to 32M & see if you make it through the install. > If 32M are bad, the odds are good they're not in the 32MB you're going > to use.. Interesting idea.. I don't think SRM reports at which phys address the bad pages are located. Wilko -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 15:28:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtpzilla2.xs4all.nl (smtpzilla2.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F5A437B405 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:28:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from tamama (loonei.xs4all.nl [213.84.116.228]) by smtpzilla2.xs4all.nl (8.12.0/8.12.0) with SMTP id fB5NSjx8029779 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 00:28:49 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <008301c17de4$c0019830$9600000a@tamama> From: "Floris 'Tamama' van Gog" To: Subject: Got an Alpha 21066 rev 2 hardware rev 1, how to get to SRM? Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 00:29:52 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I recently received an Alpha motherboard with CPU and memory from a friend. I stuffed it in an AT case, attached a SCSI HDD and cdrom to it, added a Matrox Millenium 1 to it and booted. It comes in this: -------- Alpha Firmware Version 4.42 Copyright(c) 1993-1995 Microsoft Corporation Copyright(c) 1993-1995 Ditigal Equipment Corporation Boot menu: Boot Windows NT Boot an alternate operating system Run a program Supplemantary menu --------- The machine previously ran Linux redhat, but since i didnt get an harddisk to go with it, it can't boot it :-) Now as I have never even seen an Alpha in my life, I am sort of puzzled. The FreeBSD install guide keeps talking about an SRM prompt and all that... but I don't seem to have it at all! Argh this is frustrating :-) Any help to get to that SRM prompt is greatly appreciated. Floris To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 15:32:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0A8237B419 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:32:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB5NVcL08276; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 00:31:38 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 00:31:38 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Floris 'Tamama' van Gog" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Got an Alpha 21066 rev 2 hardware rev 1, how to get to SRM? Message-ID: <20011206003138.C8067@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <008301c17de4$c0019830$9600000a@tamama> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <008301c17de4$c0019830$9600000a@tamama>; from floris@vangog.net on Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 12:29:52AM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 12:29:52AM +0100, Floris 'Tamama' van Gog wrote: > I recently received an Alpha motherboard with CPU and memory from a > friend. I stuffed it in an AT case, attached a SCSI HDD and cdrom to it, > added a Matrox Millenium 1 to it and booted. It comes in this: > -------- > Alpha Firmware Version 4.42 > Copyright(c) 1993-1995 Microsoft Corporation > Copyright(c) 1993-1995 Ditigal Equipment Corporation > > Boot menu: > > Boot Windows NT > Boot an alternate operating system > Run a program > Supplemantary menu > --------- > > The machine previously ran Linux redhat, but since i didnt get an > harddisk to go with it, it can't boot it :-) > Now as I have never even seen an Alpha in my life, I am sort of puzzled. > The FreeBSD install guide keeps talking about an SRM prompt and all > that... but I don't seem to have it at all! Argh this is frustrating :-) Yes.. you need to get to the supplementary menu, and select Operating System 'Unix' there. Then power cycle the box. This should give you the SRM I would also like to know what kind of board you have. Please describe it, and/or find the Digital part# for it (something like 54-xxxxx-xx on a sticker on the board) Wilko -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 15:45:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtpzilla1.xs4all.nl (smtpzilla1.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2ECBA37B419 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:44:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from tamama (loonei.xs4all.nl [213.84.116.228]) by smtpzilla1.xs4all.nl (8.12.0/8.12.0) with SMTP id fB5Nin1H048567; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 00:44:49 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <00b301c17de6$fc63bef0$9600000a@tamama> From: "Floris 'Tamama' van Gog" To: "Wilko Bulte" Cc: References: <008301c17de4$c0019830$9600000a@tamama> <20011206003138.C8067@freebie.xs4all.nl> Subject: Re: Got an Alpha 21066 rev 2 hardware rev 1, how to get to SRM? Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 00:45:56 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thank you for the reply, Unfortunately, there is no Unix operating system there.. the only OS I can select is Windows NT. Kind of funny.. I can select NT or an alternate.. and I can only select NT in the alternate .. heh. The board sticker has this: 54-23310-05 ay43602768 C02 There is some info with a picture on this page (it is not mine) I found using google: http://joyce.questier.com/joyce.html Obviously the rand-hardware is not what i have but the picture of the board is exactly the same as mine. The firmware tells me there is 512bytes used out of 3kb of the NVRAM. I Hope this info will help you help me :-) Floris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilko Bulte" To: "Floris 'Tamama' van Gog" Cc: Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 12:31 AM Subject: Re: Got an Alpha 21066 rev 2 hardware rev 1, how to get to SRM? > On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 12:29:52AM +0100, Floris 'Tamama' van Gog wrote: > > > I recently received an Alpha motherboard with CPU and memory from a > > friend. I stuffed it in an AT case, attached a SCSI HDD and cdrom to it, > > added a Matrox Millenium 1 to it and booted. It comes in this: > > -------- > > Alpha Firmware Version 4.42 > > Copyright(c) 1993-1995 Microsoft Corporation > > Copyright(c) 1993-1995 Ditigal Equipment Corporation > > > > Boot menu: > > > > Boot Windows NT > > Boot an alternate operating system > > Run a program > > Supplemantary menu > > --------- > > > > The machine previously ran Linux redhat, but since i didnt get an > > harddisk to go with it, it can't boot it :-) > > > > Now as I have never even seen an Alpha in my life, I am sort of puzzled. > > The FreeBSD install guide keeps talking about an SRM prompt and all > > that... but I don't seem to have it at all! Argh this is frustrating :-) > > Yes.. you need to get to the supplementary menu, and select Operating > System 'Unix' there. Then power cycle the box. This should give you the > SRM > > I would also like to know what kind of board you have. Please describe > it, and/or find the Digital part# for it (something like 54-xxxxx-xx > on a sticker on the board) > > Wilko > > -- > | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 15:51:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92C0C37B417 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 15:51:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB5NpL408450; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 00:51:21 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 00:51:21 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: "Floris 'Tamama' van Gog" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Got an Alpha 21066 rev 2 hardware rev 1, how to get to SRM? Message-ID: <20011206005121.A8381@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <008301c17de4$c0019830$9600000a@tamama> <20011206003138.C8067@freebie.xs4all.nl> <00b301c17de6$fc63bef0$9600000a@tamama> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <00b301c17de6$fc63bef0$9600000a@tamama>; from floris@vangog.net on Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 12:45:56AM +0100 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 12:45:56AM +0100, Floris 'Tamama' van Gog wrote: > Thank you for the reply, > > Unfortunately, there is no Unix operating system there.. the only OS I > can select is Windows NT. > Kind of funny.. I can select NT or an alternate.. and I can only select > NT in the alternate .. heh. > > The board sticker has this: > > 54-23310-05 ay43602768 C02 > > There is some info with a picture on this page (it is not mine) I found > using google: > > http://joyce.questier.com/joyce.html OK, I just wanted to make sure. You definitely have a "NoName" board. Quoting from the (SGML source) docs: NoNames can either have SRM or ARC console firmware in their Flash ROM. The Flash ROM is not big enough to hold both ARC and SRM at the same time and allow software selection of alternate console code. But you only need SRM anyway. In short: you need to flash the console code to SRM, ARC & SRM won't fit together. After you did that you can install FreeBSD. This info & more is on the FreeBSD Alpha CD, I think it is in the rootdir of the CD (*.TXT ??) > Obviously the rand-hardware is not what i have but the picture of the > board is exactly the same as mine. The firmware tells me there is > 512bytes used out of 3kb of the NVRAM. > > I Hope this info will help you help me :-) Sure.. -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 16:29:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from cassandra.coredump.at (cassandra.coredump.at [194.235.142.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AEE0F37B419 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 16:29:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 19622 invoked by uid 1000); 6 Dec 2001 00:04:16 -0000 Message-ID: <20011206000416.24832.qmail@cassandra.coredump.at> From: rupp@coredump.at Subject: Re: Install problem on AS200 4/166 In-Reply-To: <200112052253.fB5MrMJ03766@mass.dis.org> from Mike Smith at "Dec 5, 2001 02:53:22 pm" To: Mike Smith Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 01:04:16 +0100 (CET) Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL66 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I'm afraid that I have to agree with Drew; this sounds a lot like a > CPU overheading problem. Are you sure you haven't tried to overclock > this machine? A 166 will run at 200 or 233 for a short period of time > under install-like load before overheating and shutting down. I'm sure it's not overclocked since I bought the machine refurbished. The machine has been up for weeks at home with VMS (with no load). Since the install desaster two weaks ago it is running Linux again at work, as test mailserver. Current uptime under load: 10 days. > You may also have out-of-spec memory; I've seen similar symptoms in > that case in other AXP systems. The 4x64MB 36bit are according to spec. If you wonder why I waited two weeks before asking about the problem: I had enough real problems at work :-/ Could it be that FreeBSD needs a certain (minimum) firmware version? It's just a wild guess, but we had a *weird* firmware related problem on one of the ES40s and I'm paranoid in that respect now... Wolfgang To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 16:44: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7590A37B417 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 16:44:02 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with UUCP id fB60htZ33068 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 01:43:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20.cicely.de [10.1.1.22]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fB60iEAD058450 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 01:44:14 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fB60iDL08470 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 01:44:14 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fB60iDc87312 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 01:44:13 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 01:44:13 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: -pthread problems on -current Message-ID: <20011206014412.G84086@cicely8.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ticso@cicely9# cat test2.c #include int main() { system("ls"); } ticso@cicely9# gcc -o test2 test2.c -pthread ticso@cicely9# ./test2 cbackup-0.3 confdefs.h conftest.c ktrace.out test.c test2.c conf.glibtest conftest delme test test2 [here it hangs forever] Without -pthread or on i386 it runs fine. This is the end of ktrace output (alpha with -pthread): [...] 42225 ls RET write 57/0x39 42225 ls CALL exit(0) 42224 sh RET wait4 42225/0xa4f1 42224 sh CALL exit(0) 42223 test2 PSIG SIGCHLD caught handler=0x16005c1c0 mask=0x0 code=0x0 42223 test2 RET poll -1 errno 4 Interrupted system call 42223 test2 CALL write(0x4,0x120026cb0,0x1) 42223 test2 GIO fd 4 wrote 1 byte "\^T" 42223 test2 RET write 1 42223 test2 CALL sigreturn(0x120026cd8) 42223 test2 RET sigreturn JUSTRETURN 42223 test2 CALL read(0x3,0x12001bec8,0x80) 42223 test2 GIO fd 3 read 1 byte "\^T" 42223 test2 RET read 1 42223 test2 CALL read(0x3,0x12001bec8,0x80) 42223 test2 RET read -1 errno 35 Resource temporarily unavailable 42223 test2 CALL fcntl(0,0x4,0x6) 42223 test2 RET fcntl 0 42223 test2 CALL fcntl(0x1,0x4,0x6) 42223 test2 RET fcntl 0 42223 test2 CALL fcntl(0x2,0x4,0x6) 42223 test2 RET fcntl 0 42223 test2 CALL fcntl(0x5,0x4,0x4) 42223 test2 RET fcntl 0 42223 test2 CALL gettimeofday(0x16007bd60,0) 42223 test2 RET gettimeofday 0 42223 test2 CALL poll(0x12002c000,0x1,0xffffffffffffffff) On i386 after gettimeofday wait4 is called: [...] 56231 ls RET write 26/0x1a 56231 ls CALL exit(0) 56230 sh RET wait4 56231/0xdba7 56230 sh CALL exit(0) 56229 test2 PSIG SIGCHLD caught handler=0x28072690 mask=0x0 code=0x0 56229 test2 RET poll -1 errno 4 Interrupted system call 56229 test2 CALL write(0x4,0x805765f,0x1) 56229 test2 GIO fd 4 wrote 1 byte "\^T" 56229 test2 RET write 1 56229 test2 CALL sigreturn(0x805767c) 56229 test2 RET sigreturn JUSTRETURN 56229 test2 CALL read(0x3,0x804dec8,0x80) 56229 test2 GIO fd 3 read 1 byte "\^T" 56229 test2 RET read 1 56229 test2 CALL read(0x3,0x804dec8,0x80) 56229 test2 RET read -1 errno 35 Resource temporarily unavailable 56229 test2 CALL fcntl(0,0x4,0x6) 56229 test2 RET fcntl 0 56229 test2 CALL fcntl(0x1,0x4,0x6) 56229 test2 RET fcntl 0 56229 test2 CALL fcntl(0x2,0x4,0x6) 56229 test2 RET fcntl 0 56229 test2 CALL gettimeofday(0x2807fa88,0) 56229 test2 RET gettimeofday 0 56229 test2 CALL wait4(0xdba6,0xbfbff8e8,0x1,0) 56229 test2 RET wait4 56230/0xdba6 56229 test2 CALL sigaction(0x2,0xbfbff89c,0) 56229 test2 RET sigaction 0 56229 test2 CALL sigaction(0x3,0xbfbff88c,0) 56229 test2 RET sigaction 0 56229 test2 CALL sigprocmask(0x1,0x2805dba0,0xbfbff940) 56229 test2 RET sigprocmask 0 56229 test2 CALL sigprocmask(0x3,0x2805dbb0,0) 56229 test2 RET sigprocmask 0 56229 test2 CALL setitimer(0x2,0xbfbff960,0) 56229 test2 RET setitimer 0 56229 test2 CALL close(0x3) 56229 test2 RET close 0 56229 test2 CALL close(0x4) 56229 test2 RET close 0 56229 test2 CALL fcntl(0,0x3,0) 56229 test2 RET fcntl 6 56229 test2 CALL fcntl(0,0x4,0x2) 56229 test2 RET fcntl 0 56229 test2 CALL fcntl(0x1,0x3,0) 56229 test2 RET fcntl 2 56229 test2 CALL fcntl(0x1,0x4,0x2) 56229 test2 RET fcntl 0 56229 test2 CALL fcntl(0x2,0x3,0) 56229 test2 RET fcntl 2 56229 test2 CALL fcntl(0x2,0x4,0x2) 56229 test2 RET fcntl 0 56229 test2 CALL exit(0) -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 17: 7:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from cisco.com (pita.cisco.com [171.71.68.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C2E37B419 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:07:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from gypsy.cisco.com (sjc-vpn3-4.cisco.com [10.21.64.4]) by cisco.com (8.8.8-Cisco List Logging/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA00245; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:06:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20011205170513.037e4290@pita.cisco.com> X-Sender: mahan@pita.cisco.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 17:06:54 -0800 To: "Floris 'Tamama' van Gog" From: Patrick Mahan Subject: Re: Got an Alpha 21066 rev 2 hardware rev 1, how to get to SRM? Cc: In-Reply-To: <008301c17de4$c0019830$9600000a@tamama> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:29 AM 12/6/01 +0100, Floris 'Tamama' van Gog spoke: >Hi, > >I recently received an Alpha motherboard with CPU and memory from a >friend. I stuffed it in an AT case, attached a SCSI HDD and cdrom to it, >added a Matrox Millenium 1 to it and booted. It comes in this: >-------- >Alpha Firmware Version 4.42 >Copyright(c) 1993-1995 Microsoft Corporation >Copyright(c) 1993-1995 Ditigal Equipment Corporation > >Boot menu: > >Boot Windows NT >Boot an alternate operating system >Run a program >Supplemantary menu >--------- > >The machine previously ran Linux redhat, but since i didnt get an >harddisk to go with it, it can't boot it :-) > >Now as I have never even seen an Alpha in my life, I am sort of puzzled. >The FreeBSD install guide keeps talking about an SRM prompt and all >that... but I don't seem to have it at all! Argh this is frustrating :-) > >Any help to get to that SRM prompt is greatly appreciated. It may not have SRM installed. Try going to supplemantary menu. If there are options for OpenVMS or Unix, switch to one of those O/S types. That will get you to the SRM. However, be warn that some Alpha's were setup to only run NT. Patrick Mahan mahan@mahan.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 17:33:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 664) id C03DB37B405; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:33:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:33:33 -0800 From: David O'Brien To: Floris 'Tamama' van Gog Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Got an Alpha 21066 rev 2 hardware rev 1, how to get to SRM? Message-ID: <20011205173333.A87617@hub.freebsd.org> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <008301c17de4$c0019830$9600000a@tamama> <20011206003138.C8067@freebie.xs4all.nl> <00b301c17de6$fc63bef0$9600000a@tamama> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <00b301c17de6$fc63bef0$9600000a@tamama>; from floris@vangog.net on Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 12:45:56AM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 12:45:56AM +0100, Floris 'Tamama' van Gog wrote: > The board sticker has this: > 54-23310-05 ay43602768 C02 BTW, the NoName can be Over Clocked to 233 MHz fine if you add a massive fan above the heat sink (msmith did it one at WC, back in the day). Also make sure you have cache RAM installed. You *really* don't want to run a NoName w/o the extra cache (you may very well not even want to run a NoName with it). You can grab the cache DIPs from any old 486 mobo. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 17:35: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4710D37B405 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:35:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fB61YlB09428; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:34:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:34:47 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Thomas P. Holmes [ Systems ]" Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: disk slices Message-ID: <20011205173447.C9268@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from tholmes@thebiz.net on Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 03:25:47PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 03:25:47PM -0500, Thomas P. Holmes [ Systems ] wrote: > Now I have a 4.3-RElease machine that I made world on to upgrade to > 4.4-release and that is partitioned > > /dev/da0s1a / > /dev/da0s1b swap > /dev/da0s1e /var > /dev/da0s1f /usr We don't support slices on Alpha. You should only be using sd0[a-h]. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 17:36:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1928B37B405 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:36:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fB61atN09443 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:36:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:36:55 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: TGA Message-ID: <20011205173655.D9268@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org References: <20011205211847.17775.qmail@cassandra.coredump.at> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011205211847.17775.qmail@cassandra.coredump.at>; from rupp@coredump.at on Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 10:18:46PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 10:18:46PM +0100, rupp@coredump.at wrote: > I am unable to install 4.4 on an AlphaStation 200 4/166 with TGA > card (ZLXp-E1). Speaking of which... I only committed the TGA drivers. I wasn't provided a patch (that I am aware of) to hook the driver into the kernel build. I spent 2 minutes trying it myself, but didn't have all the depenanacies and never got back to it. With 4.5 comming up, can any one spend a little bit of time on finishing this last bit of the TGA driver? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 17:37:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.thebiz.net (mx1.thebiz.net [216.238.0.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F04D937B405 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:37:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 22038 invoked from network); 5 Dec 2001 20:37:19 -0500 Received: from unknown (172.16.0.72) by 172.16.0.178 with QMQP; 5 Dec 2001 20:37:19 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO staff.noc.thebiz.net) (216.238.1.10) by mail.thebiz.net with SMTP; 5 Dec 2001 20:37:21 -0500 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 20:37:21 -0500 (EST) From: "Thomas P. Holmes [ Systems ]" X-Sender: tholmes@staff.noc.thebiz.net To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Wilko Bulte , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: disk slices In-Reply-To: <15374.34369.492419.52249@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > The alpha port doesn't use slices (fdisk partitions) because the SRM > console doesn't understand them & it cannot boot from them. The alpha > port has never used slices. OK I confirmed that I'm a dumba$$ and on the other alpha there are NO slices. Sorry it was one of those days :) Again, thanks all! ________________ http://www.BiznessOnline.com ________________ Thomas Holmes Bizness Online Unix Systems Engineer Suite 1801 tholmes@thebiz.net 11 North Pearl St. (518) 533-6522 Albany, NY, 12207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 17:39:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2048B37B417 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:39:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fB61d9d09492; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:39:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2001 17:39:08 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.4-RELEASE - XFree - netscape + gnome problems Message-ID: <20011205173908.E9268@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <15373.21674.878247.904328@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20011204202552.A74415@dragon.nuxi.com> <15374.8263.560510.987767@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15374.8263.560510.987767@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu>; from gallatin@cs.duke.edu on Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 08:25:27AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 08:25:27AM -0500, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > Cool. I never knew about that myself. Would have saved me lots of > time running find . -name Makefile -exec .... to s/O2/O in all of a > ports Makefiles. True, but your work was useful for all FreeBSD platforms. :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 18:37:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 25BC337B416; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 18:37:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fB62gYJ05711; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 18:42:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200112060242.fB62gYJ05711@mass.dis.org> To: obrien@freebsd.org Cc: "Floris 'Tamama' van Gog" , freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org, msmith@mass.dis.org Subject: Re: Got an Alpha 21066 rev 2 hardware rev 1, how to get to SRM? In-Reply-To: Message from David O'Brien of "Wed, 05 Dec 2001 17:33:33 PST." <20011205173333.A87617@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 18:42:34 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 12:45:56AM +0100, Floris 'Tamama' van Gog wrote: > > The board sticker has this: > > 54-23310-05 ay43602768 C02 > > BTW, the NoName can be Over Clocked to 233 MHz fine if you add a massive > fan above the heat sink (msmith did it one at WC, back in the day). It's not stable at 233, but it ran fine at 200. You need the fan to cover the regulator next to the CPU as well; the heatsink on it is not adequate even at 166MHz. > Also make sure you have cache RAM installed. You *really* don't want to > run a NoName w/o the extra cache (you may very well not even want to run > a NoName with it). You can grab the cache DIPs from any old 486 mobo. cgd very accurately described the NoName/Multia as "slower than snot running down the wall on a cold day". Note also that you may have problems with some PCI cards; the firmware and chipset are a bit touchy. = Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 20:57: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F145037B405 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 20:57:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from dialup-209.245.132.144.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.245.132.144] helo=mindspring.com) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16Bqak-0006TU-00; Wed, 05 Dec 2001 20:57:03 -0800 Message-ID: <3C0EFAA6.97B2F57F@mindspring.com> Date: Wed, 05 Dec 2001 20:57:10 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Floris 'Tamama' van Gog , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Got an Alpha 21066 rev 2 hardware rev 1, how to get to SRM? References: <008301c17de4$c0019830$9600000a@tamama> <20011206003138.C8067@freebie.xs4all.nl> <00b301c17de6$fc63bef0$9600000a@tamama> <20011206005121.A8381@freebie.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wilko Bulte wrote: > NoNames can either have SRM or ARC console > firmware in their Flash ROM. The Flash ROM is not big enough to > hold both ARC and SRM at the same time and allow software > selection of alternate console code. But you only need SRM > anyway. I was going to say this. The first Alpha I played with FreeBSD porting on (belonged to a Linux guy at the University of Arizona in Tucson) was a 21064 based board that had the same limitation. > In short: you need to flash the console code to SRM, ARC & SRM > won't fit together. After you did that you can install FreeBSD. > > This info & more is on the FreeBSD Alpha CD, I think it is in > the rootdir of the CD (*.TXT ??) Is there any chance we can get the publically available SRM images with flashing instructions onto the FreeBSD Alpha CDROM itself? -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 23:23:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A30537B419; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 23:23:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB67NM509715; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 08:23:22 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 08:23:22 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Mike Smith Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, "Floris 'Tamama' van Gog" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, msmith@mass.dis.org Subject: Re: Got an Alpha 21066 rev 2 hardware rev 1, how to get to SRM? Message-ID: <20011206082322.A9691@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <200112060242.fB62gYJ05711@mass.dis.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200112060242.fB62gYJ05711@mass.dis.org>; from msmith@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 06:42:34PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 06:42:34PM -0800, Mike Smith wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 12:45:56AM +0100, Floris 'Tamama' van Gog wrote: > > > The board sticker has this: > > > 54-23310-05 ay43602768 C02 > > > > BTW, the NoName can be Over Clocked to 233 MHz fine if you add a massive > > fan above the heat sink (msmith did it one at WC, back in the day). > > It's not stable at 233, but it ran fine at 200. You need the fan to I can second that, based on experience with multiple 166@200 CPUs. 233 will in most cases not work at all. > cgd very accurately described the NoName/Multia as "slower than snot > running down the wall on a cold day". Yeah.. -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 23:25:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6BE637B416 for ; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 23:25:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB67PAr09746; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 08:25:10 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 08:25:10 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Terry Lambert Cc: "Floris 'Tamama' van Gog" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Got an Alpha 21066 rev 2 hardware rev 1, how to get to SRM? Message-ID: <20011206082509.B9691@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <008301c17de4$c0019830$9600000a@tamama> <20011206003138.C8067@freebie.xs4all.nl> <00b301c17de6$fc63bef0$9600000a@tamama> <20011206005121.A8381@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3C0EFAA6.97B2F57F@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C0EFAA6.97B2F57F@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 08:57:10PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 08:57:10PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > won't fit together. After you did that you can install FreeBSD. > > > > This info & more is on the FreeBSD Alpha CD, I think it is in > > the rootdir of the CD (*.TXT ??) > > Is there any chance we can get the publically available SRM images > with flashing instructions onto the FreeBSD Alpha CDROM itself? No, SRM is copyrighted and what not. Getting it from the CPQ/DEC (..) Web/ftp site is much easier. -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Dec 5 23:31: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C078037B419; Wed, 5 Dec 2001 23:31:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB67V4E09801; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 08:31:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 08:31:04 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: "David O'Brien" Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: TGA Message-ID: <20011206083104.D9691@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20011205211847.17775.qmail@cassandra.coredump.at> <20011205173655.D9268@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011205173655.D9268@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 05:36:55PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 05:36:55PM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 10:18:46PM +0100, rupp@coredump.at wrote: > > I am unable to install 4.4 on an AlphaStation 200 4/166 with TGA > > card (ZLXp-E1). > > Speaking of which... I only committed the TGA drivers. I wasn't provided > a patch (that I am aware of) to hook the driver into the kernel build. > I spent 2 minutes trying it myself, but didn't have all the depenanacies > and never got back to it. > > With 4.5 comming up, can any one spend a little bit of time on finishing > this last bit of the TGA driver? And the big question is then: will the floppy image be overflowing again? -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 6 0: 6: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net (hawk.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C070437B417 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 00:06:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from dialup-209.245.132.144.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.245.132.144] helo=mindspring.com) by hawk.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16BtXf-0003VC-00; Thu, 06 Dec 2001 00:06:04 -0800 Message-ID: <3C0F26F3.269CC938@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 00:06:11 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Floris 'Tamama' van Gog , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Got an Alpha 21066 rev 2 hardware rev 1, how to get to SRM? References: <008301c17de4$c0019830$9600000a@tamama> <20011206003138.C8067@freebie.xs4all.nl> <00b301c17de6$fc63bef0$9600000a@tamama> <20011206005121.A8381@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3C0EFAA6.97B2F57F@mindspring.com> <20011206082509.B9691@freebie.xs4all.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 08:57:10PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > won't fit together. After you did that you can install FreeBSD. > > > > > > This info & more is on the FreeBSD Alpha CD, I think it is in > > > the rootdir of the CD (*.TXT ??) > > > > Is there any chance we can get the publically available SRM images > > with flashing instructions onto the FreeBSD Alpha CDROM itself? > > No, SRM is copyrighted and what not. Getting it from the CPQ/DEC (..) > Web/ftp site is much easier. I was just thinking that they might be willing to let it be redistributed, with a license that restricts how it can be used (assuming that were even a concern for them). If they have it on the web site, it's not like it's that big a leap of logic to getting it mirrored on another web site, and from that, on individual CDROMs. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 6 3:10:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C5C637B417 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 03:09:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB6B9RT10277; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 12:09:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 12:09:27 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Terry Lambert Cc: "Floris 'Tamama' van Gog" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Got an Alpha 21066 rev 2 hardware rev 1, how to get to SRM? Message-ID: <20011206120927.B10245@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <008301c17de4$c0019830$9600000a@tamama> <20011206003138.C8067@freebie.xs4all.nl> <00b301c17de6$fc63bef0$9600000a@tamama> <20011206005121.A8381@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3C0EFAA6.97B2F57F@mindspring.com> <20011206082509.B9691@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3C0F26F3.269CC938@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C0F26F3.269CC938@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 12:06:11AM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 12:06:11AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 08:57:10PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > > > won't fit together. After you did that you can install FreeBSD. > > > > > > > > This info & more is on the FreeBSD Alpha CD, I think it is in > > > > the rootdir of the CD (*.TXT ??) > > > > > > Is there any chance we can get the publically available SRM images > > > with flashing instructions onto the FreeBSD Alpha CDROM itself? > > > > No, SRM is copyrighted and what not. Getting it from the CPQ/DEC (..) > > Web/ftp site is much easier. > > I was just thinking that they might be willing to let it be > redistributed, with a license that restricts how it can be Life is too short to spend it working with CPQ (or other) lawyers. > used (assuming that were even a concern for them). If they > have it on the web site, it's not like it's that big a leap > of logic to getting it mirrored on another web site, and from > that, on individual CDROMs. What is so difficult in getting it from the CPQ website? -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 6 4: 3:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smithers.sfrn.dnai.com (smithers.sfrn.dnai.com [208.59.199.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C21237B417 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 04:03:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from sideshow-bob.sfrn.dnai.com (sideshow-bob.sfrn.dnai.com [208.59.199.20]) by smithers.sfrn.dnai.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id fB6C3n169906 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 04:03:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from cheshire.blacktabby.org (207-172-166-80.s80.tnt1.sfrn.ca.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.166.80]) by sideshow-bob.sfrn.dnai.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fB6C3Ai58547 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 04:03:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adam@blacktabby.org) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 04:03:24 -0800 From: Adam Kranzel To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: First alpha :) Message-Id: <20011206040324.48260358.adam@blacktabby.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi... Just got my first alpha system (5305, 2x 533MHz 21164, 1Gb ram, 7x 9gb disk, raid card) yesterday, and hopefully will be attempting to get FreeBSD on it later today. Are there any known issues with FreeBSD on these machines? The only issue I was able to find in the mailing list archives was some trouble booting off cd back in august, has this been corrected by now? Also, is there a new -CURRENT snapshot for the alpha up somewhere? I searched around and was not able to find once more recent than july. thanks for the help -Adam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 6 4:12:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D58E37B429 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 04:12:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB6CC8B10468; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 13:12:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 13:12:08 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Adam Kranzel Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: First alpha :) Message-ID: <20011206131208.A10408@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20011206040324.48260358.adam@blacktabby.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011206040324.48260358.adam@blacktabby.org>; from adam@blacktabby.org on Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 04:03:24AM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 04:03:24AM -0800, Adam Kranzel wrote: > Hi... > > Just got my first alpha system (5305, 2x 533MHz 21164, 1Gb ram, 7x 9gb > disk, raid card) yesterday, and hopefully will be attempting to get Cool box.. > FreeBSD on it later today. > Are there any known issues with FreeBSD on these machines? > The only issue I was able to find in the mailing list archives was some > trouble booting off cd back in august, has this been corrected by now? > > Also, is there a new -CURRENT snapshot for the alpha up somewhere? Do you really want -current?? I know, SMP, but.. A -stable snap of last week is at http://people.freebsd.org/~wilko/alpha-snaps -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 6 5: 7:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from testmail.infothuis.nl (testmail.infothuis.nl [195.96.98.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 77D2E37B41C for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 05:07:33 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 23830 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2001 13:07:33 -0000 Received: from 20dyn132.com21.casema.net (HELO pc48) (213.17.90.132) by testmail.infothuis.nl with SMTP; 6 Dec 2001 13:07:33 -0000 Message-ID: <02ee01c17e57$3a0f4ba0$1900a8c0@pc48> From: "Floris 'Tamama' van Gog" To: References: <008301c17de4$c0019830$9600000a@tamama> <20011206003138.C8067@freebie.xs4all.nl> <00b301c17de6$fc63bef0$9600000a@tamama> <20011206005121.A8381@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3C0EFAA6.97B2F57F@mindspring.com> <20011206082509.B9691@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3C0F26F3.269CC938@mindspring.com> <20011206120927.B10245@freebie.xs4all.nl> Subject: Re: Got an Alpha 21066 rev 2 hardware rev 1, how to get to SRM? Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 14:09:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I found this one: ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/archive/axppci/ I'll be trying to change the firmware this evening. Floris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wilko Bulte" To: "Terry Lambert" Cc: "Floris 'Tamama' van Gog" ; Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 12:09 PM Subject: Re: Got an Alpha 21066 rev 2 hardware rev 1, how to get to SRM? > On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 12:06:11AM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Wed, Dec 05, 2001 at 08:57:10PM -0800, Terry Lambert wrote: > > > > Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > > > > > > won't fit together. After you did that you can install FreeBSD. > > > > > > > > > > This info & more is on the FreeBSD Alpha CD, I think it is in > > > > > the rootdir of the CD (*.TXT ??) > > > > > > > > Is there any chance we can get the publically available SRM images > > > > with flashing instructions onto the FreeBSD Alpha CDROM itself? > > > > > > No, SRM is copyrighted and what not. Getting it from the CPQ/DEC (..) > > > Web/ftp site is much easier. > > > > I was just thinking that they might be willing to let it be > > redistributed, with a license that restricts how it can be > > Life is too short to spend it working with CPQ (or other) lawyers. > > > used (assuming that were even a concern for them). If they > > have it on the web site, it's not like it's that big a leap > > of logic to getting it mirrored on another web site, and from > > that, on individual CDROMs. > > What is so difficult in getting it from the CPQ website? > > -- > | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 6 6: 8:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D52B937B419 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 06:08:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from dialup-209.245.132.144.dial1.sanjose1.level3.net ([209.245.132.144] helo=mindspring.com) by swan.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16BzCD-0007lq-00; Thu, 06 Dec 2001 06:08:17 -0800 Message-ID: <3C0F7BD7.7B636EC9@mindspring.com> Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 06:08:23 -0800 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Floris 'Tamama' van Gog Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Got an Alpha 21066 rev 2 hardware rev 1, how to get to SRM? References: <008301c17de4$c0019830$9600000a@tamama> <20011206003138.C8067@freebie.xs4all.nl> <00b301c17de6$fc63bef0$9600000a@tamama> <20011206005121.A8381@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3C0EFAA6.97B2F57F@mindspring.com> <20011206082509.B9691@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3C0F26F3.269CC938@mindspring.com> <20011206120927.B10245@freebie.xs4all.nl> <02ee01c17e57$3a0f4ba0$1900a8c0@pc48> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Floris 'Tamama' van Gog wrote: > > I found this one: > > ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/archive/axppci/ > > I'll be trying to change the firmware this evening. The more general one is: ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/readme.html I've sent them email asking about the ability to redistribute SRM images with the FreeBSD Alpha CDROMs. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 6 6:14:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from testmail.infothuis.nl (testmail.infothuis.nl [195.96.98.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CE97A37B416 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 06:14:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 30235 invoked from network); 6 Dec 2001 14:14:20 -0000 Received: from 20dyn132.com21.casema.net (HELO pc48) (213.17.90.132) by testmail.infothuis.nl with SMTP; 6 Dec 2001 14:14:20 -0000 Message-ID: <033701c17e60$8e1ed4f0$1900a8c0@pc48> From: "Floris 'Tamama' van Gog" To: "Terry Lambert" Cc: References: <008301c17de4$c0019830$9600000a@tamama> <20011206003138.C8067@freebie.xs4all.nl> <00b301c17de6$fc63bef0$9600000a@tamama> <20011206005121.A8381@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3C0EFAA6.97B2F57F@mindspring.com> <20011206082509.B9691@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3C0F26F3.269CC938@mindspring.com> <20011206120927.B10245@freebie.xs4all.nl> <02ee01c17e57$3a0f4ba0$1900a8c0@pc48> <3C0F7BD7.7B636EC9@mindspring.com> Subject: Re: Got an Alpha 21066 rev 2 hardware rev 1, how to get to SRM? Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:16:10 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Unfortunately I didn't find a firmware for my board in there. It could be another name is being used but I don't know of it. I thought to be safe and grab one from the archive where the exact name was being used.. Floris From: "Terry Lambert" > Floris 'Tamama' van Gog wrote: > > > > I found this one: > > > > ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/archive/axppci/ > > > > I'll be trying to change the firmware this evening. > > The more general one is: > > ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/readme.html > > I've sent them email asking about the ability to redistribute > SRM images with the FreeBSD Alpha CDROMs. > > -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 6 8:39:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC85F37B416 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 08:39:50 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with UUCP id fB6Gdks40296; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 17:39:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20.cicely.de [10.1.1.22]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fB6GdeAD067528; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 17:39:41 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fB6GddL09281; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 17:39:39 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fB6GdWW92813; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 17:39:32 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 17:39:32 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: "Floris 'Tamama' van Gog" Cc: Terry Lambert , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Got an Alpha 21066 rev 2 hardware rev 1, how to get to SRM? Message-ID: <20011206173932.E91518@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <20011206003138.C8067@freebie.xs4all.nl> <00b301c17de6$fc63bef0$9600000a@tamama> <20011206005121.A8381@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3C0EFAA6.97B2F57F@mindspring.com> <20011206082509.B9691@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3C0F26F3.269CC938@mindspring.com> <20011206120927.B10245@freebie.xs4all.nl> <02ee01c17e57$3a0f4ba0$1900a8c0@pc48> <3C0F7BD7.7B636EC9@mindspring.com> <033701c17e60$8e1ed4f0$1900a8c0@pc48> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <033701c17e60$8e1ed4f0$1900a8c0@pc48> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 03:16:10PM +0100, Floris 'Tamama' van Gog wrote: > > Unfortunately I didn't find a firmware for my board in there. It could > be another name is being used but I don't know of it. I thought to be > safe and grab one from the archive where the exact name was being used.. No - your directory was right. Just pull the decaxppci33_v1_6.exe. Then put the file named as fwupdate.exe on an msdos formated floppy disk. > > Floris 'Tamama' van Gog wrote: > > > > > > I found this one: > > > > > > ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/archive/axppci/ -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 6 8:48:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from espresso.q9media.com (espresso.q9media.com [216.254.138.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFAA637B419 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 08:48:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mike@localhost) by espresso.q9media.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB6GlGP75057; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 11:47:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 11:47:16 -0500 From: Mike Barcroft To: Adam Kranzel Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: First alpha :) Message-ID: <20011206114716.A71848@espresso.q9media.com> References: <20011206040324.48260358.adam@blacktabby.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011206040324.48260358.adam@blacktabby.org>; from adam@blacktabby.org on Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 04:03:24AM -0800 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Adam Kranzel writes: > Also, is there a new -CURRENT snapshot for the alpha up somewhere? > I searched around and was not able to find once more recent than july. Yes, this is a real problem, but you should be able to use the July snapshot and upgrade from there. I've been running -CURRENT on Alpha for about 5 months, and I have to say, it's been quite stable. Best regards, Mike Barcroft To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 6 15:11:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from felix.cheetahusa.net (felix.cheetahusa.net [216.133.11.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0507337B41C for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:11:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from falcon (falcon.cheetahusa.net [192.168.10.139]) by felix.cheetahusa.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fB6NAva07001 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:11:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from craig@CheetahUSA.net) From: "Craig Burgess" To: Subject: which JDK? (FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE) Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:15:05 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org CPQ offers both Compaq J2SDK/JRE v 1.3.1-1 for Tru64™ UNIX®! and Compaq J2SDK/JRE v 1.3.1-1 for Linux® Alpha! and we have the linux-jdk's in ports... Are any there significant differences in performance? FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE on EV56. thanks, craig burgess To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 6 15:36:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C83E37B417 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:36:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from peter3.wemm.org ([12.232.27.13]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20011206233608.TWDH5859.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@peter3.wemm.org> for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 23:36:08 +0000 Received: from overcee.netplex.com.au (overcee.wemm.org [10.0.0.3]) by peter3.wemm.org (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fB6NaGs18098 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:36:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) Received: from wemm.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by overcee.netplex.com.au (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67D09380D; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 15:36:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@wemm.org) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: "Thomas P. Holmes [ Systems ]" , Wilko Bulte , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: disk slices In-Reply-To: <15374.34369.492419.52249@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 15:36:16 -0800 From: Peter Wemm Message-Id: <20011206233616.67D09380D@overcee.netplex.com.au> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Thomas P. Holmes [ Systems ] writes: > > Yes my box boots and I was able to recompile the kernel. > > > > The df through me when I saw > > > > da0a > > da0e > > > > and not > > > > da0s1a > > da0s1e > > > > > > The alpha port doesn't use slices (fdisk partitions) because the SRM > console doesn't understand them & it cannot boot from them. The alpha > port has never used slices. > > Drew SRM doesn't understand disklabel partitions either. All that SRM cares about is the bootblock checksum, and that is it. We really could implement fdisk partitions, but it would be in a fashion that is not compatable with i386. fdisk style partitions have block 0 being the fdisk / mbr sector, and the rest of the first track empty. The first partition starts at the next track boundary (cylinder 0, head 1). On FreeBSD we have block 0 used for boot1, block1 used for the disk label, and block 2 through 15 for boot2. partition a (root) starts at block 16. Alpha has a magic signature in the tail end of block 0. Bytes 480-487 contain the (long) size of boot code, bytes 488-495 = starting sector, and 496-503 = flags, and 504-511 = checksum of block 0. block 1 - 15 contain the "boot1" image, and the disklabel cohabitates block 0. (i386 has it in block 1 to make room for the boot code). We cant just fit a mbr into block 0, because the fdisk table is *also* at the end of the first block, and it would overlap with the boot info and checksum. We could read sliced disks on alpha, but not boot from them unless we arranged to move the fdisk sector to block 1 instead. It probably wouldn't be worth it though. The only real reason for doing it might be to get extra partitions beyond [a-h]. But we can just as easily have a machine dependent raised limit on the number of partitions in the disklabel. We can easily fit double that in i386 but I'm not sure how much room is left on the alpha with the 64 bit longs there. Cheers, -Peter -- Peter Wemm - peter@FreeBSD.org; peter@yahoo-inc.com; peter@netplex.com.au "All of this is for nothing if we don't go to the stars" - JMS/B5 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 6 16:48:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C0BD37B417 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 16:48:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA25105; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 19:48:09 -0500 (EST) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id fB70liB51425; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 19:47:44 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <15376.4528.93583.660475@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 19:47:44 -0500 (EST) To: "Craig Burgess" Cc: Subject: Re: which JDK? (FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE) In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Craig Burgess writes: > CPQ offers both > Compaq J2SDK/JRE v 1.3.1-1 for Tru64=99 UNIX=AE! and > Compaq J2SDK/JRE v 1.3.1-1 for Linux=AE Alpha! >=20 > and we have the linux-jdk's in ports... >=20 > Are any there significant differences in performance? FreeBSD > 4.4-RELEASE on EV56. The last I tried, the Tru64 JDK was blindingly fast, and the Linux JDK was turtle slow. However, this is a moot point since the Tru64 JDK will not run on FreeBSD. It uses the Tru64 threads library. This threads lib makes Mach system calls which we do not emulate. FWIW, the Linux JDK was just as slow running natively. I haven't played with java in any meaningful way since 1.2.x, so they may have improved the speed of the Linux JDK since then. 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Para ser removido de futuros correios, simplesmente responda indicando no Assunto: REMOVER" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 6 18:18:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from saruman.xwin.net (saruman.xwin.net [205.219.158.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA68037B416 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 18:18:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dp@localhost) by saruman.xwin.net (8.11.4/8.9.1) with ESMTP id fB72IxB12221 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 20:18:59 -0600 Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 20:18:59 -0600 (CST) From: Paul Halliday X-X-Sender: To: Subject: strange.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just trying to clean up my disks a bit so I ran make clean in /usr/ports. Yeah I have installed a few packages, but it has been running since last night prolly ~20hrs so far. Seems odd. PC164 500mhz, 264MB ram. ad0: 6149MB [13328/15/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 ad1: 2014MB [4092/16/63] at ata0-slave WDMA2 Sound right? Paul H. "Don't underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups" ___________________ http://dp.penix.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 6 19: 3:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mta04.mail.mel.aone.net.au (mta04.mail.au.uu.net [203.2.192.84]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC4C737B41B for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 19:03:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ausyddtp0050.ozemail.com.au ([203.166.66.104]) by mta04.mail.mel.aone.net.au with ESMTP id <20011207030300.TAAM5614.mta04.mail.mel.aone.net.au@ausyddtp0050.ozemail.com.au> for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 14:03:00 +1100 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011207140139.02496260@pop.ozemail.com.au> X-Sender: rbyrnes@pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: I wish it was Linux Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 14:02:48 +1100 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org From: Rob B Subject: How to enable logging of machine checks? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As the subject says, is it possible to enable logging of machine checks on a PWS500au? This box is running 4.4-STABLE Cheers, Rob -- Truth was left world-writeable. [15200.8 km (8207.8 mi), 262.8 deg](Apparent) Rennerian This is random quote 1042 of a collection of 1191 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 6 19:20: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCCE737B405 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 19:20:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with UUCP id fB73Jqh46909; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 04:19:52 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20.cicely.de [10.1.1.22]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fB73GYAD045144; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 04:16:34 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fB73GYL09812; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 04:16:34 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fB73GXB96666; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 04:16:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 04:16:33 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Paul Halliday Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: strange.. Message-ID: <20011207041632.E93455@cicely8.cicely.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 08:18:59PM -0600, Paul Halliday wrote: > Just trying to clean up my disks a bit so I ran make clean in /usr/ports. > Yeah I have installed a few packages, but it has been running since last > night prolly ~20hrs so far. > > Seems odd. > > PC164 500mhz, 264MB ram. > ad0: 6149MB [13328/15/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 > ad1: 2014MB [4092/16/63] at ata0-slave WDMA2 The IDE controller on an PC164 board is very CPU intensive. And make clean is doing all dependencies everytime. Just do rm -r /usr/ports/*/*/work to get everything clean. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 6 19:20:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B01CD37B41A for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 19:20:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with UUCP id fB73K8k46913; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 04:20:08 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20.cicely.de [10.1.1.22]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fB73J3AD045148; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 04:19:03 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fB73J2L09816; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 04:19:03 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fB73J2396673; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 04:19:02 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 04:19:02 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Rob B Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to enable logging of machine checks? Message-ID: <20011207041901.F93455@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20011207140139.02496260@pop.ozemail.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20011207140139.02496260@pop.ozemail.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:02:48PM +1100, Rob B wrote: > As the subject says, is it possible to enable logging of machine checks on > a PWS500au? This box is running 4.4-STABLE It's in the dmesg buffer and after rebooting FreeBSDs syslog handle the logs as normal kernel output and puts it into /var/log/messages. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 6 19:36:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mta05.mail.mel.aone.net.au (mta05.mail.au.uu.net [203.2.192.85]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7DE537B41D for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 19:36:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from ausyddtp0050.ozemail.com.au ([203.166.66.104]) by mta05.mail.mel.aone.net.au with ESMTP id <20011207033522.YXPC12104.mta05.mail.mel.aone.net.au@ausyddtp0050.ozemail.com.au>; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 14:35:25 +1100 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011207143036.01d69e30@pop.ozemail.com.au> X-Sender: rbyrnes@pop.ozemail.com.au X-Mailer: I wish it was Linux Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 14:35:09 +1100 To: Bernd Walter From: Rob B Subject: Re: How to enable logging of machine checks? Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20011207041901.F93455@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20011207140139.02496260@pop.ozemail.com.au> <5.1.0.14.2.20011207140139.02496260@pop.ozemail.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 14:19 7/12/2001, Bernd Walter sent this up the stick: >On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:02:48PM +1100, Rob B wrote: > > As the subject says, is it possible to enable logging of machine checks on > > a PWS500au? This box is running 4.4-STABLE > >It's in the dmesg buffer and after rebooting FreeBSDs syslog handle >the logs as normal kernel output and puts it into /var/log/messages. Thanks, but that's not what I was after. During operation, if the Pyxis chipset detects and corrects single bit errors in the memory (among other things), it generates a machine check with vector 600 (I think). Under Linux, these checks are logged to /var/log/kern.log. Is it possible, under FreeBSD, to have these logged ? I don't have an alpha running Linux to see what the syslog.conf looks like. Rob -- The important thing is not to stop questioning. [15200.8 km (8207.8 mi), 262.8 deg](Apparent) Rennerian This is random quote 943 of a collection of 1191 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Dec 6 20: 0:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F90F37B419 for ; Thu, 6 Dec 2001 20:00:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with UUCP id fB73xi147128; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 04:59:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20.cicely.de [10.1.1.22]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fB73xKAD045505; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 04:59:20 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fB73xJL09834; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 04:59:20 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.4/8.11.4) id fB73xJs96889; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 04:59:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 04:59:18 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Rob B Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: How to enable logging of machine checks? Message-ID: <20011207045918.A96883@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20011207140139.02496260@pop.ozemail.com.au> <5.1.0.14.2.20011207140139.02496260@pop.ozemail.com.au> <5.1.0.14.2.20011207143036.01d69e30@pop.ozemail.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20011207143036.01d69e30@pop.ozemail.com.au> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:35:09PM +1100, Rob B wrote: > At 14:19 7/12/2001, Bernd Walter sent this up the stick: > >On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:02:48PM +1100, Rob B wrote: > >> As the subject says, is it possible to enable logging of machine checks > >on > >> a PWS500au? This box is running 4.4-STABLE > > > >It's in the dmesg buffer and after rebooting FreeBSDs syslog handle > >the logs as normal kernel output and puts it into /var/log/messages. > > Thanks, but that's not what I was after. During operation, if the Pyxis > chipset detects and corrects single bit errors in the memory (among other > things), it generates a machine check with vector 600 (I think). Under > Linux, these checks are logged to /var/log/kern.log. Is it possible, under > FreeBSD, to have these logged ? They are logged as processor correctable errors bt the kernel and go the same way via syslog. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 7 1:55: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from maisoncorbeil.com (h-64-105-236-101.CHCGILGM.covad.net [64.105.236.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61B2837B416; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 01:52:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from sniperdev.com (24.0.212.26) by maisoncorbeil.com with SMTP (Eudora Internet Mail Server 3.0.3); Thu, 6 Dec 2001 19:48:57 -0600 From: "Nick Cargill" To: Subject: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2001 19:11:30 -0800 Reply-To: "Nick Cargill" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <1204432760-1721454@maisoncorbeil.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Sir or Madam:

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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 7 7:59: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from poptart.bithose.com (poptart.bithose.com [208.171.236.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1B5A37B417 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 07:59:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (jakari@localhost) by poptart.bithose.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fB7FwkJ53407; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 10:58:46 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: poptart.bithose.com: jakari owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 10:58:46 -0500 (EST) From: Jameel Akari To: Rob B Cc: Bernd Walter , Subject: Re: How to enable logging of machine checks? In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20011207143036.01d69e30@pop.ozemail.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Rob B wrote: > At 14:19 7/12/2001, Bernd Walter sent this up the stick: > >On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 02:02:48PM +1100, Rob B wrote: > > > As the subject says, is it possible to enable logging of machine checks on > > > a PWS500au? This box is running 4.4-STABLE > > Thanks, but that's not what I was after. During operation, if the Pyxis > chipset detects and corrects single bit errors in the memory (among other > things), it generates a machine check with vector 600 (I think). Under > Linux, these checks are logged to /var/log/kern.log. Is it possible, under > FreeBSD, to have these logged ? Indeed, the Multia does (almost) the same thing. On of my Multias running Linux eventually succumbed to the dreaded "heat death" where one of the ECC logic chips on the board and it pullup resistors get fried, causing random ECC "errors". I don't think it ever panic'd the box, but it would show up as kern.crit, iirc, and then move on. The syslog level is at least high enough that it logs to console and root as well as messages. And the Multia isn't *that* bad... ;) I ran that Linux box for nearly three years nonstop until I got my AS200. (Then the Multia got demoted to a ipmasq box, then developed heat death, and that was that.) Does anyone have a "tips and tricks" about FreeeBSD on the Multia.. things I should know about before I bust out the soldering iron and fix the Multia just for kicks? Or maybe I'll just run OpenVMS on it... #!/jameel/akari for zig in $(find / -name zig); do rm -f "$zig"; done; export GREAT_JUSTICE=1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 7 8:54:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D4437B416 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 08:54:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB7GrwH15667; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 17:53:58 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 17:53:58 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Peter Wemm Cc: Andrew Gallatin , "Thomas P. Holmes [ Systems ]" , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: disk slices Message-ID: <20011207175358.B15602@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <15374.34369.492419.52249@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20011206233616.67D09380D@overcee.netplex.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011206233616.67D09380D@overcee.netplex.com.au>; from peter@wemm.org on Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 03:36:16PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 03:36:16PM -0800, Peter Wemm wrote: > Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > Thomas P. Holmes [ Systems ] writes: > > > Yes my box boots and I was able to recompile the kernel. > > > > > > The df through me when I saw > > > > > > da0a > > > da0e > > > > > > and not > > > > > > da0s1a > > > da0s1e > > > > > > > > > > The alpha port doesn't use slices (fdisk partitions) because the SRM > > console doesn't understand them & it cannot boot from them. The alpha > > port has never used slices. > > > > Drew > > SRM doesn't understand disklabel partitions either. All that SRM cares about > is the bootblock checksum, and that is it. And that is of course the Only True Way. > We really could implement fdisk partitions, but it would be in a fashion that > is not compatable with i386. I noticed that my AlphaPC64 had fdisk partitions (I think) from RedHat Linux that made the 4.4-stable installer puke. Meaning, it did not see a disk. There was a lot of moaning and groaning on the console about da0s# having warped start/end blocks. After I wiped the disk (using NetBSD ;-) the 4.4-stable installer was more than happy to install on it. FWIW Wilko -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 7 11:35:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp05.wxs.nl (smtp05.wxs.nl [195.121.6.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E8837B405 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 11:35:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from yokozuna.bsd ([213.10.35.60]) by smtp05.wxs.nl (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GNZNRC01.HOB for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 20:35:36 +0100 Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 20:34:31 +0100 (CET) From: Marco Beishuizen Reply-To: Marco Beishuizen To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: buying freebsd/alpha Message-ID: Operating-System: FreeBSD => http://www.freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, Does anyone know where I can buy the latest cd-rom of freebsd/alpha? I saw it on the freebsdmall.com site but they only sell version 4.2, and I thought the latest version is 4.4. Is this correct? Thanks for the info. Marco -- It is necessary for the welfare of society that genius should be privileged to utter sedition, to blaspheme, to outrage good taste, to corrupt the youthful mind, and generally to scandalize one's uncles. -- George Bernard Shaw To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 7 12: 4:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B21037B416 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 12:04:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fB7K43n10718; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 12:04:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 12:04:03 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Paul Halliday Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: strange.. Message-ID: <20011207120403.B82602@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from dp@penix.org on Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 08:18:59PM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 08:18:59PM -0600, Paul Halliday wrote: > Just trying to clean up my disks a bit so I ran make clean in /usr/ports. > Yeah I have installed a few packages, but it has been running since last > night prolly ~20hrs so far. > > Seems odd. > > PC164 500mhz, 264MB ram. > ad0: 6149MB [13328/15/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 > ad1: 2014MB [4092/16/63] at ata0-slave WDMA2 For 8GB of storage, I really would just go eBay a SCSI controller and matching 9GB disk. This would run you about $80. If you do want to do this, provide eBay item numbers for the SCSI controllers you are considering and I'll check them out to make sure they'd work for you. For a PC164 you want a Qlogic 1040 or 1020; or almost any NCR/Symbios/LSI controller. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 7 13: 0:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from saruman.xwin.net (saruman.xwin.net [205.219.158.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F5D637B416 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 13:00:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dp@localhost) by saruman.xwin.net (8.11.4/8.9.1) with ESMTP id fB7L0mW13153; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 15:00:48 -0600 Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 15:00:48 -0600 (CST) From: Paul Halliday X-X-Sender: To: Bernd Walter Cc: Subject: Re: strange.. In-Reply-To: <20011207041632.E93455@cicely8.cicely.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Bernd Walter wrote: > On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 08:18:59PM -0600, Paul Halliday wrote: > > Just trying to clean up my disks a bit so I ran make clean in /usr/ports. > > Yeah I have installed a few packages, but it has been running since last > > night prolly ~20hrs so far. > > > > Seems odd. > > > > PC164 500mhz, 264MB ram. > > ad0: 6149MB [13328/15/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 > > ad1: 2014MB [4092/16/63] at ata0-slave WDMA2 > > The IDE controller on an PC164 board is very CPU intensive. Could you define "intensive" here. To the point of being counter productive, not efficient, my grandma could do it faster without breaking a sweat intensive? Should I be utilising some other means of magnetic storage?? > And make clean is doing all dependencies everytime. Sounds kinda superfluous, shouldn't make clean take advantage of some check so that it is not doing all dependencies every time? > > > -- > B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de > ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 7 13:22:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from saruman.xwin.net (saruman.xwin.net [205.219.158.250]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4CC537B41B; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 13:22:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (dp@localhost) by saruman.xwin.net (8.11.4/8.9.1) with ESMTP id fB7LN6M13190; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 15:23:06 -0600 Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 15:23:06 -0600 (CST) From: Paul Halliday X-X-Sender: To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Subject: Re: strange.. In-Reply-To: <20011207120403.B82602@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, David O'Brien wrote: > On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 08:18:59PM -0600, Paul Halliday wrote: > > Just trying to clean up my disks a bit so I ran make clean in /usr/ports. > > Yeah I have installed a few packages, but it has been running since last > > night prolly ~20hrs so far. > > > > Seems odd. > > > > PC164 500mhz, 264MB ram. > > ad0: 6149MB [13328/15/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 > > ad1: 2014MB [4092/16/63] at ata0-slave WDMA2 > > For 8GB of storage, I really would just go eBay a SCSI controller and > matching 9GB disk. This would run you about $80. If you do want to do > this, provide eBay item numbers for the SCSI controllers you are > considering and I'll check them out to make sure they'd work for you. > For a PC164 you want a Qlogic 1040 or 1020; or almost any NCR/Symbios/LSI > controller. The relevancy I was looking for, thanks. And while I have your attention, and due to your reply, your familiarlarity with the PC164 I offer one more question. Graphics Card. Yes I have looked at existing media as to what card this machine will support but most of them are kinda out in right feild. There is an s3 virge in it right now. I swapped it from my as200 which isn't really that picky about video cards. Anyway, I am getting mad feedback issues. Initially I thought it was the surrounding monitors but I am still getting some distortion. Either a flaky card or a poorly supported one. Any suggestions on a decent card? The machine is running X+wmaker or gnome when the port is fixed and I ultimately want to use it as a graphics box. Anything you can offer helps. thanks. Paul H. "Don't underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups" ___________________ http://dp.penix.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 7 13:29:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E85F437B41A for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 13:29:24 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fB7LTIB91075; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 13:29:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 13:29:18 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Paul Halliday Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: strange.. Message-ID: <20011207132918.A91049@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: alpha@freebsd.org References: <20011207120403.B82602@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from dp@penix.org on Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 03:23:06PM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 03:23:06PM -0600, Paul Halliday wrote: > The relevancy I was looking for, thanks. And while I have your attention, > and due to your reply, your familiarlarity with the PC164 I offer one more > question. > > Graphics Card. I am not very picky on video cards, so maybe someone else will give fuller advice. I was lucky enough that various people have given me several Matrox Millenum and Millenum-II cards. I stick to these in Alpha's because they Just Work (even in the picky PWS), and Matrox became my favorite brand many years ago. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 7 13:45:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89BC437B416 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 13:45:54 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with UUCP id fB7Ljne52628; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:45:49 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20.cicely.de [10.1.1.22]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fB7Lk5tx002142; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:46:05 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fB7Lk4W00493; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:46:04 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB7Lk2d00882; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:46:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 22:46:01 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: Paul Halliday Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: strange.. Message-ID: <20011207224601.A818@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <20011207041632.E93455@cicely8.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 03:00:48PM -0600, Paul Halliday wrote: > On Fri, 7 Dec 2001, Bernd Walter wrote: > > > On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 08:18:59PM -0600, Paul Halliday wrote: > > > Just trying to clean up my disks a bit so I ran make clean in /usr/ports. > > > Yeah I have installed a few packages, but it has been running since last > > > night prolly ~20hrs so far. > > > > > > Seems odd. > > > > > > PC164 500mhz, 264MB ram. > > > ad0: 6149MB [13328/15/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 > > > ad1: 2014MB [4092/16/63] at ata0-slave WDMA2 > > > > The IDE controller on an PC164 board is very CPU intensive. > Could you define "intensive" here. To the point of being counter > productive, not efficient, my grandma could do it faster without breaking > a sweat intensive? > > Should I be utilising some other means of magnetic storage?? No - not that bad. The main point is that you shouldn't expect any magic as the CMD646 is on the lower end of PCI IDE chips. Keep in mind that the board is from 1994. > > And make clean is doing all dependencies everytime. > > Sounds kinda superfluous, shouldn't make clean take advantage of some > check so that it is not doing all dependencies every time? Make depends on having filedates either on source, destination or timestamp files. The job of make clean is to remove everything which is not part of the distribution source and therefor you can't create timestamps. Make clean is OK if you want to clean a single port. IMHO make clean only works in /usr/ports because it's part of the standard bsd.subdir.mk macro. -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 7 14:18: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl (smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A99E937B419 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 14:17:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from tamama (loonei.xs4all.nl [213.84.116.228]) by smtpzilla3.xs4all.nl (8.12.0/8.12.0) with SMTP id fB7MHhMh038615 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 23:17:44 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <018401c17f6d$26f94e00$9600000a@tamama> From: "Floris 'Tamama' van Gog" To: References: <20011206003138.C8067@freebie.xs4all.nl> <00b301c17de6$fc63bef0$9600000a@tamama> <20011206005121.A8381@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3C0EFAA6.97B2F57F@mindspring.com> <20011206082509.B9691@freebie.xs4all.nl> <3C0F26F3.269CC938@mindspring.com> <20011206120927.B10245@freebie.xs4all.nl> <02ee01c17e57$3a0f4ba0$1900a8c0@pc48> <3C0F7BD7.7B636EC9@mindspring.com> <033701c17e60$8e1ed4f0$1900a8c0@pc48> <20011206173932.E91518@cicely8.cicely.de> Subject: Re: Got an Alpha 21066 rev 2 hardware rev 1, how to get to SRM? Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 23:18:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I got the Alpha to take the firmware software and update itself (took some cable-turning and diskette-formatting :-) and currently FreeBSD is installing itself happily. My thanks to all the people that helped me. Floris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bernd Walter" To: "Floris 'Tamama' van Gog" Cc: "Terry Lambert" ; Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2001 5:39 PM Subject: Re: Got an Alpha 21066 rev 2 hardware rev 1, how to get to SRM? > On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 03:16:10PM +0100, Floris 'Tamama' van Gog wrote: > > > > Unfortunately I didn't find a firmware for my board in there. It could > > be another name is being used but I don't know of it. I thought to be > > safe and grab one from the archive where the exact name was being used.. > > No - your directory was right. > Just pull the decaxppci33_v1_6.exe. > Then put the file named as fwupdate.exe on an msdos formated floppy disk. > > > > Floris 'Tamama' van Gog wrote: > > > > > > > > I found this one: > > > > > > > > ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/archive/axppci/ > > -- > B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de > ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 7 15:28:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (mta7.pltn13.pbi.net [64.164.98.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038AA37B419 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 15:28:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from enki.blacktabby.org ([63.205.184.45]) by mta7.pltn13.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with SMTP id <0GNZ00BXYYJXR7@mta7.pltn13.pbi.net> for alpha@freebsd.org; Fri, 07 Dec 2001 15:28:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 07 Dec 2001 15:28:44 -0800 From: Adam Kranzel Subject: Re: First alpha :) To: alpha@freebsd.org Cc: Wilko Bulte Message-id: <20011207152844.3034079c.adam@blacktabby.org> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd5.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi... On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 04:03:24AM -0800, Adam Kranzel wrote: >> Hi... >> Just got my first alpha system (5305, 2x 533MHz 21164, 1Gb ram, 7x 9gb >> disk, raid card) yesterday, and hopefully will be attempting to get > Cool box.. thanks :) >> FreeBSD on it later today. >> Are there any known issues with FreeBSD on these machines? >> The only issue I was able to find in the mailing list archives was some >> trouble booting off cd back in august, has this been corrected by now? >> Also, is there a new -CURRENT snapshot for the alpha up somewhere? >Do you really want -current?? I know, SMP, but.. > >A -stable snap of last week is at >http://people.freebsd.org/~wilko/alpha-snaps That link doesn't seem to work, has it been moved to somewhere else? thanks -Adam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 7 15:31:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9432C37B416 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 15:31:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 16CUSX-0006mS-00; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 00:31:13 +0100 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB7N3Nx33567 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 00:03:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: strange.. Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2001 23:03:23 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <9urhrr$10om$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> References: <20011207120403.B82602@dragon.nuxi.com> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien wrote: > For a PC164 you want a Qlogic 1040 or 1020; or almost any NCR/Symbios/LSI > controller. Careful. I'm under the impression that the PC164 SRM will not recognize most modern LSI adapters. In fact, people may be limited to old models that are no longer available new. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 7 15:31:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7301237B405 for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 15:31:53 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB7NVkp43243; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 00:31:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 00:31:46 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: Adam Kranzel Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: First alpha :) Message-ID: <20011208003146.B43171@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20011207152844.3034079c.adam@blacktabby.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011207152844.3034079c.adam@blacktabby.org>; from adam@blacktabby.org on Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 03:28:44PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 03:28:44PM -0800, Adam Kranzel wrote: > Hi... > > On Thu, Dec 06, 2001 at 04:03:24AM -0800, Adam Kranzel wrote: > >> The only issue I was able to find in the mailing list archives was some > >> trouble booting off cd back in august, has this been corrected by now? > >> Also, is there a new -CURRENT snapshot for the alpha up somewhere? > > >Do you really want -current?? I know, SMP, but.. > > > >A -stable snap of last week is at > >http://people.freebsd.org/~wilko/alpha-snaps > > That link doesn't seem to work, has it been moved to somewhere else? Grr.. s/alpha-snaps/alpha-snap/ :) -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Dec 7 15:52:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C46937B41A for ; Fri, 7 Dec 2001 15:52:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from dijkstra.fi.infn.it (dijkstra.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.11]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fB7NqcK37400 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 00:52:38 +0100 (CET) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E545E1E02; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 00:51:28 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9633D18601 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 00:51:28 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 00:51:28 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: 4.4-STABLE and ifconfig Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Filter-Version: 1.7 (postino.fi.infn.it) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have compiled stable and ifconfig give me this problem: pid 373 (ifconfig): unaligned access: va=0x12006c2c4 pc=0x1200022bc ra=0x1200022b0 op=ldq pid 373 (ifconfig): unaligned access: va=0x12006c2bc pc=0x1200022d8 ra=0x1200022b0 op=ldq anyone experienced this too?? thanks Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 8 7:24:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C903637B41C for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 07:24:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from dijkstra.fi.infn.it (dijkstra.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.11]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.5/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fB8FOHK45316 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 16:24:17 +0100 (CET) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id EA4F91E02; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 16:23:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dijkstra.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AD0818601 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 16:23:05 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 16:23:05 +0100 (CET) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: svgalib on FreeBSD/alpha ?? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Filter-Version: 1.7 (postino.fi.infn.it) Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I tryed to build svgalib-1.4.2 from the ports but it won;t compile, it gives too many errors, anyone could make it work ? I need it for xmps program. thank you Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 8 10:23:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C720537B419 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 10:23:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fB8IN9Q11511; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 10:23:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 10:23:09 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Christian Weisgerber Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: strange.. Message-ID: <20011208102309.A11428@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20011207120403.B82602@dragon.nuxi.com> <9urhrr$10om$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <9urhrr$10om$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de>; from naddy@mips.inka.de on Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 11:03:23PM +0000 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 11:03:23PM +0000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > David O'Brien wrote: > > > For a PC164 you want a Qlogic 1040 or 1020; or almost any NCR/Symbios/LSI > > controller. > > Careful. I'm under the impression that the PC164 SRM will not > recognize most modern LSI adapters. In fact, people may be limited > to old models that are no longer available new. I know for a fact that PC164 will work with "875" [UW] Symbios controllers. I am able to use "895" controllers (LSI and Tekram) in both PWS and 164LX. So I feel there is a chance they would work. But I wouldn't promise it until I've seen it myself. Matt J., what's the "nicest" controller you've used in your PC164? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 8 10:28:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 832FA37B41B; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 10:28:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB8IST356441; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 19:28:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 19:28:29 +0100 From: Wilko Bulte To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: strange.. Message-ID: <20011208192829.A56422@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20011207120403.B82602@dragon.nuxi.com> <9urhrr$10om$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> <20011208102309.A11428@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011208102309.A11428@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.ORG on Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 10:23:09AM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 10:23:09AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 11:03:23PM +0000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > > David O'Brien wrote: > > > > > For a PC164 you want a Qlogic 1040 or 1020; or almost any NCR/Symbios/LSI > > > controller. > > > > Careful. I'm under the impression that the PC164 SRM will not > > recognize most modern LSI adapters. In fact, people may be limited > > to old models that are no longer available new. > > I know for a fact that PC164 will work with "875" [UW] Symbios > controllers. I am able to use "895" controllers (LSI and Tekram) in both > PWS and 164LX. So I feel there is a chance they would work. But I > wouldn't promise it until I've seen it myself. > > Matt J., what's the "nicest" controller you've used in your PC164? All of you with 164* boxes: I invite comments on my Alpha hardware document, esp. with this magical SCSI adapter versus SRM stuff. It could well be that the docs can be improved here. W/ -- | / o / /_ _ email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte Arnhem, The Netherlands To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 8 11:25:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BABE137B41B; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 11:25:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with UUCP id fB8JPBR63901; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 20:25:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20.cicely.de [10.1.1.22]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fB8JOmtx057849; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 20:24:49 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fB8JOmW01974; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 20:24:48 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB8JOeS06309; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 20:24:40 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 20:24:38 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: strange.. Message-ID: <20011208202438.A6171@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <20011207120403.B82602@dragon.nuxi.com> <9urhrr$10om$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> <20011208102309.A11428@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011208102309.A11428@dragon.nuxi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 10:23:09AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Fri, Dec 07, 2001 at 11:03:23PM +0000, Christian Weisgerber wrote: > > David O'Brien wrote: > > > > > For a PC164 you want a Qlogic 1040 or 1020; or almost any NCR/Symbios/LSI > > > controller. > > > > Careful. I'm under the impression that the PC164 SRM will not > > recognize most modern LSI adapters. In fact, people may be limited > > to old models that are no longer available new. > > I know for a fact that PC164 will work with "875" [UW] Symbios > controllers. I am able to use "895" controllers (LSI and Tekram) in both > PWS and 164LX. So I feel there is a chance they would work. But I > wouldn't promise it until I've seen it myself. I'm booting my PC164 from an 895: ticso@cicely9# pciconf -lv sym0@pci0:5:0: class=0x010000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x000c1000 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Symbios Logic (NCR) (LSI Logic)' device = 'SYM53C895 Ultra-2 Wide SCSI' class = mass storage subclass = SCSI Show config lists my two 810* controllers and show device lists the devices of my 895 and my 810a. But I always asumed that it's working because the 810ae isn't working with my PC164 and confused SRM. sym1@pci0:6:0: class=0x010000 card=0x10001000 chip=0x00011000 rev=0x23 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Symbios Logic (NCR) (LSI Logic)' device = '53C810 Fast/Narrow SCSI I/O Cntrlr' class = mass storage subclass = SCSI sym2@pci0:7:0: class=0x010000 card=0x00000000 chip=0x00011000 rev=0x12 hdr=0x00 vendor = 'Symbios Logic (NCR) (LSI Logic)' device = '53C810 Fast/Narrow SCSI I/O Cntrlr' class = mass storage subclass = SCSI A shure winner is a 875 or 810(a) - not the newer 810ae which my sym1 is! >>>show config Digital AlphaPC 164 500 MHz SRM Console: V5.5-1 PALcode: OpenVMS PALcode V1.21-9, Digital UNIX PALcode V1.23-8 SROM Revision: 2.2 Alpha 21164A-2 DECchip (tm) 21172 CIA ASIC Pass 3 MEMORY 256 Meg of system memory PCI Bus Bus 00 Slot 05: Vendor: 1000 Device: c Bus 00 Slot 06: NCR 53C810 Scsi Controller Bus 00 Slot 07: NCR 53C810 Scsi Controller pka0.7.0.7.0 SCSI Bus ID 7 dka200.2.0.7.0 RZ55 dka300.3.0.7.0 CDC 94221-5 dka400.4.0.7.0 TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-54 dka500.5.0.7.0 PINNACLE Vertex 2.6G Bus 00 Slot 08: Intel 82378IB PCI to ISA Bridge Bus 00 Slot 11: CMD PCI0646 IDE Controller dqa.0.0.11.0 dqa0.0.0.11.0 Conner P eripherals >>>show device dka200.2.0.7.0 DKA200 RZ55 0900 dka300.3.0.7.0 DKA300 CDC 94221-5 5342 dka400.4.0.7.0 DKA400 TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-5401TA 3115 dka500.5.0.7.0 DKA500 PINNACLE Vertex 2.6GB 2.21 dkb0.0.0.5.0 DKB0 FUJITSU M1606S-512 6406 dkb100.1.0.5.0 DKB100 CDC 94191-15 0344 dkb1000.10.0.5.0 DKB1000 SEAGATE ST318275LC 0001 dkb200.2.0.5.0 DKB200 IBM WDS-3100 !I S550 dkb400.4.0.5.0 DKB400 FUJITSU M2623S-512 0405 dkb900.9.0.5.0 DKB900 SEAGATE ST318275LC 0001 dqa0.0.0.11.0 DQA0 Conner P eripherals 1275M 0.28 dva0.0.0.0.1 DVA0 pka0.7.0.7.0 PKA0 SCSI Bus ID 7 pkb0.7.0.5.0 PKB0 SCSI Bus ID 7 -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 8 11:44:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F8EA37B419 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 11:44:39 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fB8JiMl12478; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 11:44:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 11:44:22 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Bernd Walter Cc: Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: strange.. Message-ID: <20011208114422.E11428@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20011207120403.B82602@dragon.nuxi.com> <9urhrr$10om$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> <20011208102309.A11428@dragon.nuxi.com> <20011208202438.A6171@cicely8.cicely.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011208202438.A6171@cicely8.cicely.de>; from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de on Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 08:24:38PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 08:24:38PM +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: > A shure winner is a 875 Not totally. The Diamond 875's (Fireport) aren't bootable. Diamond fuk0r3d with the PCI ID and augmented it. Thus SRM does not recognize it. > >>>show device > dka200.2.0.7.0 DKA200 RZ55 0900 > dka300.3.0.7.0 DKA300 CDC 94221-5 5342 > dka400.4.0.7.0 DKA400 TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-5401TA 3115 > dka500.5.0.7.0 DKA500 PINNACLE Vertex 2.6GB 2.21 > dkb0.0.0.5.0 DKB0 FUJITSU M1606S-512 6406 > dkb100.1.0.5.0 DKB100 CDC 94191-15 0344 > dkb1000.10.0.5.0 DKB1000 SEAGATE ST318275LC 0001 > dkb200.2.0.5.0 DKB200 IBM WDS-3100 !I S550 > dkb400.4.0.5.0 DKB400 FUJITSU M2623S-512 0405 > dkb900.9.0.5.0 DKB900 SEAGATE ST318275LC 0001 > dqa0.0.0.11.0 DQA0 Conner Peripherals 1275M 0.28 Now, that's my kind of system -- many buses and *lots* of devices. :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 8 12:30:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D39537B416 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 12:30:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 16Co7P-0005Dd-00; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 21:30:43 +0100 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB8JvfU46493 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 20:57:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: strange.. Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 19:57:41 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <9utrbl$1dck$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> References: <20011207120403.B82602@dragon.nuxi.com> <9urhrr$10om$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> <20011208102309.A11428@dragon.nuxi.com> Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org David O'Brien wrote: > > Careful. I'm under the impression that the PC164 SRM will not > > recognize most modern LSI adapters. In fact, people may be limited > > to old models that are no longer available new. > > I know for a fact that PC164 will work with "875" [UW] Symbios > controllers. Well, my PC164 is running off a Tekram DC-390F (53C875). Some time ago there was a thread on the NetBSD list, where somebody's SRM would not recognize a DC-390F. A closer comparison revealed that mine is PCB revision 2.2, while the three ones he bought were all 3.0. > I am able to use "895" controllers (LSI and Tekram) in both > PWS and 164LX. Those are slightly newer boxes with slightly newer SRM code, which implies that they support some newer hardware than the PC164 SRM does. We've been through this discussion before. My PC164 would not recognize a Tekram DC-390U2W (53C895), but Bernd Walter has a no-name '895-based card that is recognized. I still may have the output of pciconf(8) somewhere, which was different for those cards. Yes, a variety of NCR/Symbios/LSI cards are supported by SRM. Yes, these cards are a good choice. However, I do take issue with your previous claim that "almost any NCR/Symbios/LSI controller" will be recognized. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 8 12:34:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from srv1.cosmo-project.de (srv1.cosmo-project.de [213.83.6.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 540E437B416; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 12:34:48 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by srv1.cosmo-project.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with UUCP id fB8KYkU64331; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 21:34:46 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail.cicely.de (cicely20.cicely.de [10.1.1.22]) by cicely5.cicely.de (8.12.1/8.12.1) with ESMTP id fB8KL1tx058302; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 21:21:01 +0100 (CET)?g (envelope-from ticso@cicely8.cicely.de) Received: from cicely8.cicely.de (cicely8.cicely.de [10.1.2.10]) by mail.cicely.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id fB8KL0W02017; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 21:21:00 +0100 (CET) Received: (from ticso@localhost) by cicely8.cicely.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fB8KL0I06421; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 21:21:00 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ticso) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 21:20:59 +0100 From: Bernd Walter To: "David O'Brien" Cc: Christian Weisgerber , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: strange.. Message-ID: <20011208212059.B6171@cicely8.cicely.de> References: <20011207120403.B82602@dragon.nuxi.com> <9urhrr$10om$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> <20011208102309.A11428@dragon.nuxi.com> <20011208202438.A6171@cicely8.cicely.de> <20011208114422.E11428@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011208114422.E11428@dragon.nuxi.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD cicely8.cicely.de 5.0-CURRENT i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 11:44:22AM -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 08:24:38PM +0100, Bernd Walter wrote: > > A shure winner is a 875 > > Not totally. The Diamond 875's (Fireport) aren't bootable. Diamond > fuk0r3d with the PCI ID and augmented it. Thus SRM does not recognize it. I almost forgot about it. > > >>>show device > > dka200.2.0.7.0 DKA200 RZ55 0900 > > dka300.3.0.7.0 DKA300 CDC 94221-5 5342 > > dka400.4.0.7.0 DKA400 TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-5401TA 3115 > > dka500.5.0.7.0 DKA500 PINNACLE Vertex 2.6GB 2.21 > > dkb0.0.0.5.0 DKB0 FUJITSU M1606S-512 6406 > > dkb100.1.0.5.0 DKB100 CDC 94191-15 0344 > > dkb1000.10.0.5.0 DKB1000 SEAGATE ST318275LC 0001 > > dkb200.2.0.5.0 DKB200 IBM WDS-3100 !I S550 > > dkb400.4.0.5.0 DKB400 FUJITSU M2623S-512 0405 > > dkb900.9.0.5.0 DKB900 SEAGATE ST318275LC 0001 > > dqa0.0.0.11.0 DQA0 Conner Peripherals 1275M 0.28 > > Now, that's my kind of system -- many buses and *lots* of devices. :-) One of my i386 systems has 8 channels with 39 devices. And you remember that one bus is missing in the SRM list: at scbus1 target 0 lun 0 (da4,pass4) at scbus1 target 1 lun 0 (da5,pass5) at scbus1 target 2 lun 0 (da6,pass6) at scbus1 target 3 lun 0 (da7,pass7) at scbus1 target 4 lun 0 (da8,pass8) at scbus1 target 5 lun 0 (da9,pass9) at scbus1 target 6 lun 0 (da10,pass10) -- B.Walter COSMO-Project http://www.cosmo-project.de ticso@cicely.de Usergroup info@cosmo-project.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 8 17: 4: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (mta5.snfc21.pbi.net [206.13.28.241]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C66E437B41B for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 17:03:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from enki.blacktabby.org ([63.205.184.45]) by mta5.snfc21.pbi.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with SMTP id <0GO100LR1XMMKI@mta5.snfc21.pbi.net> for alpha@freebsd.org; Sat, 08 Dec 2001 17:03:59 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 08 Dec 2001 16:43:46 -0800 From: Adam Kranzel Subject: It works! To: alpha@freebsd.org Message-id: <20011208164346.4330571a.adam@blacktabby.org> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.6.5 (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386--freebsd5.0) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi... I got -CURRENT installed on my 5305 (after some messing around and discovering that while -STABLE won't boot of the RAID controller, -CURRENT will), and am building world now. Hopefully the world build won't die horribly or anything :) -Adam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 8 20:47:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [66.92.13.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5B7D37B416 for ; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 20:47:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fB94l1r09301; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 20:47:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 20:47:01 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Adam Kranzel Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: It works! Message-ID: <20011208204701.A332@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20011208164346.4330571a.adam@blacktabby.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011208164346.4330571a.adam@blacktabby.org>; from adam@blacktabby.org on Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 04:43:46PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 04:43:46PM -0800, Adam Kranzel wrote: > Hi... > > I got -CURRENT installed on my 5305 (after some messing around and > discovering that while -STABLE won't boot of the RAID controller, -CURRENT > will), and am building world now. What RAID controller is this? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sat Dec 8 22:31:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from moe.sfrn.dnai.com (moe.sfrn.dnai.com [208.59.199.25]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A4E37B416; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 22:30:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from sideshow-bob.sfrn.dnai.com (sideshow-bob.sfrn.dnai.com [208.59.199.20]) by moe.sfrn.dnai.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id fB96UkT02096; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 22:30:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from adam (207-172-166-168.s168.tnt1.sfrn.ca.dialup.rcn.com [207.172.166.168]) by sideshow-bob.sfrn.dnai.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fB96U1916985; Sat, 8 Dec 2001 22:30:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from adam@blacktabby.org) From: adam@blacktabby.org To: obrien@freebsd.org Date: Sat, 8 Dec 2001 22:30:23 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: It works! Cc: alpha@freebsd.org Message-ID: <3C12947F.30850.2A47C09@localhost> In-reply-to: <20011208204701.A332@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20011208164346.4330571a.adam@blacktabby.org>; from adam@blacktabby.org on Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 04:43:46PM -0800 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (v4.01) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 8 Dec 2001 at 20:47, David O'Brien wrote: > On Sat, Dec 08, 2001 at 04:43:46PM -0800, Adam Kranzel wrote: > > Hi... > > > > I got -CURRENT installed on my 5305 (after some messing around and > > discovering that while -STABLE won't boot of the RAID controller, -CURRENT > > will), and am building world now. > > What RAID controller is this? > Mylex DAC960, single-channel, don't remember the DEC model number for it. I installed -stable (from the snapshot Wilko pointed me at), onto a disk configured as JBOD (the system itself) and a RAID 5 virtual disk (/home). The install went fine, but after the install, i type "boot dra0" at the srm prompt and got (hand transcribed): Block 0 of dra0.0.0.4.0 is a valid boot block Reading 15 blocks from dra0.0.0.4.0 Bootstrap code read in Building FRU table Base = 200000. image_start = 0, image_bytes = 1e00 Initliazing HWRPB at 2000 Initializing page table at 1f2000 Initliazing machine state Setting affinity to the primary CPU Jumping to bootstrap code Boot: It just sits here, and whatever I type in I get: Loading Can't open file Halting CPU 0 Halt code = 5 Halt instruction executed PC = 20000038 I installed the 2001-07-21 -current snapshot from ftp.freebsd.org/snapshots/alpha by booting the -stable install cd, then pointing it at the -current bits on a local NFS server. After the install was done I typed "boot dra0" at the srm prompt again, and it booted just fine. If there is anything else you want me to try just let me know. If you want me to try -stable again just let me know, I have another RAID 5 virtual disk that I have not used yet. thanks -Adam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message