From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 1 3:33:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7AB237B719; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 03:33:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id UAA26259; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 20:33:22 +1000 Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 20:32:11 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-Sender: bde@besplex.bde.org To: Robert Watson Cc: dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, bde@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/26003: getgroups(2) lists NGROUPS_MAX but not syslimits.h In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 31 Mar 2001, Robert Watson wrote: > Dunno -- I guess this leads to a number of questions of specification-land > -- is NGROUPS_MAX supposed to be exposed to the application, if so, how > should the application go about including things to get the value, etc. > Bruce might have a good answer, if not a correct one, so I've CC'd him > :-). In POSIX.1-1996: 1) NGROUPS_MAX is defined in . ( is BSD implementation detail, so it shouldn't be documented.) 2) NGROUPS_MAX is a "Run-Time Increasable Value". This means that applications may find that the actual maximum number of groups is larger than their compile time value of NGROUPS_MAX. The run time maximum is given by sysconf(_SC_NGROUPS_MAX). 3) Unlike some other POSIX limits, NGROUPS_MAX must be defined at compile time, although its value is almost useless if its run time value is larger. A footnote says that future revisions of POSIX.1 are expected to permit omitting the definition of NGROUPS_MAX from to indicate that its value is variable. The easiest way to use most of the POSIX limits is to never use them. For NGROUPS_MAX, strictly conforming POSIX programs don't even have the option of using an ifdef tangle to optimize the case where the compile time limit applies, since it is impossible to know at compile time whether it applies -- dynamic allocation must always be used. NGROUPS_MAX is useful at most as a hint. In FreeBSD, NGROUPS_MAX doesn't actually vary at runtime (unless someone compiles the kernel with a new value). getgroups.2 reflects this by mentioning NGROUPS_MAX. POSIX only says that EINVAL is returned when the array is too small to hold all the groups. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 1 3:49:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA7F337B71C; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 03:49:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f318Ipm17475; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 09:18:51 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 09:18:50 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: dd@FreeBSD.org Cc: dhagan@acm.vt.edu, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, jkh@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26193: builtin(1) indicates that if is not valid is sh(1) Message-ID: <20010401091850.A17458@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200104010109.f31194D86227@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104010109.f31194D86227@freefall.freebsd.org>; from dd@FreeBSD.org on Sat, Mar 31, 2001 at 05:09:04PM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dima, On Sat, Mar 31, 2001 at 05:09:04PM -0800, dd@FreeBSD.org wrote: > Synopsis: builtin(1) indicates that if is not valid is sh(1) >=20 > State-Changed-From-To: open->suspended > State-Changed-By: dd > State-Changed-When: Sat Mar 31 17:08:37 PST 2001 > State-Changed-Why:=20 > Fixed in -current, will MFC after code freeze. >=20 >=20 > Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dd > Responsible-Changed-By: dd > Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Mar 31 17:08:37 PST 2001 > Responsible-Changed-Why:=20 > I'll MFC it. >=20 > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=3D26193 This is probably pre-release MFC material. I've copied Jordan for his opinion. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrG5GkACgkQk6gHZCw343U0eACffhpFsWcV+REON/5gmeg9YS0R 99gAn254nlunzLg+X2FA6ak0L0K/S3Dl =M+dX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3MwIy2ne0vdjdPXF-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 1 6: 0:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailout01.sul.t-online.com (mailout01.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F51F37B71B for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 06:00:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@cichlids.cichlids.com) Received: from fwd05.sul.t-online.com by mailout01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14jhT5-0003YV-06; Sun, 01 Apr 2001 15:00:31 +0200 Received: from neutron.cichlids.com (520050424122-0001@[62.158.38.27]) by fmrl05.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14jhT4-1uVWnwC; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 15:00:30 +0200 Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB81CAB44; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 15:00:36 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cichlids.cichlids.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 863EA14BBB; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 15:00:32 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 15:00:32 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: Eric Buchanan Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Translating Sysinstall's successor, I have a few questions Message-ID: <20010401150032.A710@cichlids.cichlids.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from stalingrad20@hotmail.com on Tue, Mar 27, 2001 at 02:55:35AM -0000 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. X-Sender: 520050424122-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake Eric Buchanan (stalingrad20@hotmail.com): > I was charged with translating Sysinstall's successor into Spanish when it What is this? Alex -- cat: /home/alex/.sig: No such file or directory To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 1 6:26:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from c001.snv.cp.net (c001-h005.c001.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 01F5D37B71A for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 06:26:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vicky@vic.ky) Received: (cpmta 20937 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2001 06:26:42 -0700 Date: 1 Apr 2001 06:26:42 -0700 Message-ID: <20010401132642.20936.cpmta@c001.snv.cp.net> X-Sent: 1 Apr 2001 13:26:42 GMT Received: from [202.154.30.44] by mail.vic.ky with HTTP; 01 Apr 2001 06:26:42 PDT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: question@freebsd.org From: Vicky@Vic.ky Cc: docs@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.7.1.9 Subject: FTP question X-Sent-From: vicky@vic.ky Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have installed TCPD to run with FTPd, on the inetd.conf file.. tested from local.. works fine.. but when I remote from foreign.. this msg appears: 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection. how can that be? what should I do to correct it? Regards, Vicky To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 1 6:27:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailout02.sul.t-online.com (mailout02.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784B637B71C for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 06:27:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anselmg@t-online.de) Received: from fwd07.sul.t-online.com by mailout02.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14jhsp-00008g-00; Sun, 01 Apr 2001 15:27:07 +0200 Received: from odin (320068295437-0001@[217.81.132.154]) by fwd07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14jhsc-2Bfi4mC; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 15:26:54 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: anselmg@t-online.de (Anselm Garbe) To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Compiling doc-all fails Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 14:29:12 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <0104011429120B.00294@odin> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Sender: 320068295437-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi there, after installing all the port /usr/ports/textproc/docproj with # make JADETEX=yes install and cvsupping the doc-all-sources, I tried to compile the doc-sources: --- # cd /usr/doc # make [...] ===> en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/multi-os /usr/local/bin/jade -ioutput.html -ioutput.html.images -V nochunks -c /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/multi-os/../../../en_US.ISO_8859-1/share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/multi-os/../../../share/sgml/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/dsssl/modular/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/docbook/catalog -c /usr/local/share/sgml/jade/catalog -d /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/multi-os/../../../share/sgml/default.dsl -t sgml /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/multi-os/article.sgml > article.html || (rm -f article.html && false) Bus error - core dumped *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/multi-os. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/doc. --- I'm running FreeBSD-4.3RC-stable (2001/03/30). Anselm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 1 7:54: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from colossus.secure.bellglobal.com (janus3.bellglobal.com [199.243.226.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B28E37B71C for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 07:54:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from patou@sympatico.ca) Received: from 1116 ([192.168.52.111]) by colossus.secure.bellglobal.com (Pro-8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA20493 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 10:54:00 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <004b01c0babc$722aa7f0$6f34a8c0@secure.bellglobal.com> From: "Patrick L" To: Subject: kernell version Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 11:00:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0048_01C0BA9A.EAC67B20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C0BA9A.EAC67B20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I am using Redhat but i am extremely interested by freeBSD I saw your website but didn't found any information related to the = kernel version of the current release: 4.2 Can you please tell me wich kernell is using for freeBSD 4.2 regards Patrick L ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C0BA9A.EAC67B20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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 ------=_NextPart_000_0048_01C0BA9A.EAC67B20-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 1 7:57:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from manta.mayn.de (big.endian.de [194.145.150.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA0437B71B for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 07:57:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@big.endian.de) Received: by manta.mayn.de (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 98E1D9B002; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 17:00:43 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 17:00:43 +0200 To: Patrick L Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kernell version Message-ID: <20010401170043.A83771@manta.mayn.de> References: <004b01c0babc$722aa7f0$6f34a8c0@secure.bellglobal.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <004b01c0babc$722aa7f0$6f34a8c0@secure.bellglobal.com>; from patou@sympatico.ca on Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 11:00:09AM -0400 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. From: alex@big.endian.de (Alexander Langer) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake Patrick L (patou@sympatico.ca): > I am using Redhat but i am extremely interested by freeBSD > I saw your website but didn't found any information related to the kernel version of the current release: 4.2 > Can you please tell me wich kernell is using for freeBSD 4.2 FreeBSD doesn't provide seperate kernels. FreeBSD is a complete operating system, so the Kernel has the same version. So have all FreeBSD Userland tools. Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 1 9: 5:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from neptunium.dowco.com (neptunium.dowco.com [209.87.128.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1E2337B71D; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 09:05:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from edu-dev@inbox.ru) Received: from dowco.com (tch1c131.bby.dowco.com [209.87.132.131]) by neptunium.dowco.com (8.9.3/8.x) with SMTP id JAA62112; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 09:01:36 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 09:01:36 -0700 (PDT) From: edu-dev@inbox.ru Message-Id: <200104011601.JAA62112@neptunium.dowco.com> Reply-To: edu-dev@inbox.ru To: edu-dev@inbox.ru Subject: Re: Educational Materials Development Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Need educational materials for a class or course you need to teach? - Computers / IT (any subject) - Management - Other We can help! We create manuals, guides, tutorials and presentation packages for any educational needs you may have. If you or your organization is involved with training then you likely need materials developed. Based in North America, we serve clients across the WORLD. We have worked with some of the largest firms around in prepping and delivering the materials they need. We have great references and can act quickly to produce VERY reasonably priced packages for you. We can create materials for 1 day courses, multiple day seminars or even full semesters. Have a question? Reply to; seattle-edu3@china.com To be removed from our mailing list, write to delete-me586@china.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 1 15:43:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp011.mail.yahoo.com (smtp011.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0838937B718 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 15:43:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from binario76@yahoo.com) Received: from du-148-223-245-48.prodigy.net.mx (HELO engel) (148.223.245.48) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 1 Apr 2001 22:43:53 -0000 X-Apparently-From: From: "Engelbert R. Benavides Segura" To: Subject: Ayuda Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 04:46:42 -0500 Message-ID: <01c0bb59$d2b16b20$30f5df94@engel> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0004_01C0BB2F.E9DB6320" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C0BB2F.E9DB6320 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Que tal necesito ayuda=20 necesito saber mucho mas de freeBSD=20 pero con informacion en espa=F1ol gracias espero respuestas ------=_NextPart_000_0004_01C0BB2F.E9DB6320 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Technical Supervisor For Production, Desktops & Laptops (75+ People) Technical Advisor for RMA, Engineering and Technical Support Job Duties/Responsibilities: * Corp head tech responsible for all technical operations in the US and = Canada * ISO QRB member, ISO 9002 trainer/policy writer for all technical = operations * System Administrator for 4 Novell servers (3.11 & 3.12) & 100 = workstations/users * Designed & implemented massive system 'RollOuts' ( > 5000 Units) for = major customers including custom configurations and solutions for = their needs and requirements utilizing such programs as Ghost, with DOS, = Windows 3.xx, and=20 Windows 95 * Programmer for all in-house software for testing new units (50K units = per year) allowing for self-testing and auto-configuration of all units = in a DOS/Windows/Win95 environments * Control and set-up all testing/repairing procedures for new units=20 * Field service calls for major customers * Assistant to VP of Engineering 1994-1995: CMS Inc., Atlanta Ga. Depot Service Manager =20 Job Duties/Responsibilities: * In-house depot repair of customers/contract machines * Provided technical support of desktop, laptop and printers 1992-1994: Universal Data Consultants, Atlanta Ga. Senior Hardware Technician / Production Senior Programmer Job Duties/Responsibilities: * In-house depot repair of customers/contract machines * Provided technical support of desktop, laptop and printers 1990-1992: Antech Inc., Atlanta Ga. Service Manager Job Duties/Responsibilities: * Provided desktop support and computer repair to customers =20 =20 1985-1990: Compro Inc., Atlanta Ga. =20 Owner Job Duties/Responsibilities: * Provided desktop support and computer repair to customers Skills: * Hardware knowledge of Amiga's, Apples (Including Mac's) and IBM = computers and IBM clones - to include desktop and laptop computers * Knowledge of most 9 - 24 pin printers and most lasers including the = NEC 890 Laser * Software knowledge of Amiga DOS, MS-DOS V1 - V7.1, Apple PRODOS, = MacSystem 6.XX and Windows 95 OSR0, OSR1, & OSR2 (English, Spanish, & = Portuguese). * Solid working knowledge of Word, Word Perfect, Novell 3.1x and Win NT = 3.xx/4.xx * High level of proficiency of MS-DOS, Win 3.11 and Win 95 - installing, = configuring, and troubleshooting units Expertise: * Identifying and implementing cost saving procedures * Procedural and policy optimization * Hardware/Software failure reduction either in production or on-site * Problem determination and resolution for hardware/software problems * ISO 900x policies and procedures * Programming: DOS Batch Files, BASIC and Visual BASIC. * Designing / building hardware test equipment * Management / employee negotiations / relations * Hardware/ software Instructor * Customer problem resolution Awards/Certifications: * A+ Certification * Certified on most desktops, laptop/notebooks and printers from Apple, = Canon, HP, IBM, Lexmark, Magitronic, NEC and Okidata * Certified ISO 9002 auditor * Award from IBM for customer service * Award for superior service for laptop repair from Novell, given by = Novell SE Regional VP * Award from The GA Lottery Commission for assisting In the planning and = implementation of all computers and networks state-wide, (mini frames to = PC's) and ensuring that on day one of Initial company operations = everything works as designed * Production Efficiency Management Modeling certification from the = Computer Manf. Tech. Management Assoc. * IT Services Efficiency Management Modeling certification from the = Computer Manf. Tech. Management Assoc. * Customer Service & Relationships certification from the Computer Manf. = Tech. Management Assoc. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C0BAF1.5E16A180 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hello,

Can you use a person who has:

* An imaginative way of handling problems?

* Verbal skills, and the ability to deliver messages with impact? =

* Personal confidence, especially in face-to-face contact?

* Organizing and planning ability?

I have these talents, as well as many more, illustrated in the = enclosed=20 resume. I would like to put them to work for you in a managerial = mode.

In the unlikely event that you do not have a need for an individual = with=20 these skills, perhaps you know someone who would/does. Or, forward this = e-mail=20 along to your HR department.

Your time & trouble has been more than worth it!

Nick O. Man

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Nick O. Man
Lawrenceville, Ga. = 30043
678-222-2248 Ext.=20 1778
NOMAN@WebHost-Atlanta.Comhttp://WWW.WebHost-= Atlanta.Com/Resume/NOMAN/

 

Dear Sir/Ma'am,

We live in a world where styles change constantly = and fresh=20 ideas are always in demand.  Professionals in every field, = especially=20 computers, must be aware of these changes and possess the flexibility = and=20 imagination to stay ahead of the trends.

I know that your company seeks only the brightest = and most=20 creative people for its team.  I also know that I have the training = and=20 ability it takes to produce compelling results for your company.  = My 20=20 plus years & experience have taught me how to bring ideas to life on = time,=20 under budget, and as designed.

The enclosed resume elaborates on the details of = my skills=20 and experience.

I'd appreciate and would be honored, with a chance = to meet=20 with you to discuss how I could be a vital part of your operation.  = You may=20 reach me at the telephone number and/or e-mail address listed = below.

Thank you for you consideration.  I look = forward to=20 talking with you.

 

Sincerely,

 

Nick O. Man


******************************

 

Nick O. Man
Lawrenceville, Ga. 30043
678-222-2248 Ext. = 1778
NOMAN@WebHost-Atlanta.Comhttp://WWW.WebHost-= Atlanta.Com/Resume/NOMAN/

 

 

Education:

Boiling Springs High School, Spartanburg S.C.
Completed 1980 With = 1.5=20 Years of College Credit (CLEP Exams)

DeVry Institute Of Technology
Completed 1984 With A Digital = Technician=20 Diploma (GPA 4.0)

 


Work History:

1999-2000:    SomeBody's PC Services, Lawrenceville, = Ga.

Technical Operations Group Manager

Job Duties/Responsibilities:
* Manage the Service department = (in-house=20 & field)
* Manage the Tech Support department
* Manage the = internal IT=20 department
* Maintain & modify company's web server
* Maintain = &=20 modify company's e-mail server
* Maintain & modify company's ftp=20 server
* Maintain & modify company's web pages
* Maintain = & mange=20 company's internet connection
* Oversee & manage a 24/7/365=20 operation
* Manage budget & planning for entire group


1995-1999:     Liuski Intl., Atlanta Ga.

Technical Supervisor For Production, Desktops & Laptops (75+=20 People)
Technical Advisor for RMA, Engineering and Technical = Support

Job Duties/Responsibilities:
* Corp head tech responsible for all=20 technical operations in the US and Canada
* ISO QRB member, ISO 9002=20 trainer/policy writer for all technical operations
* System = Administrator for=20 4 Novell servers (3.11 & 3.12) & 100 workstations/users
* = Designed=20 & implemented massive system 'RollOuts' ( > 5000 Units) for = major =20 customers including custom configurations and     = solutions=20 for their needs and requirements utilizing such programs as Ghost, with = DOS,=20 Windows 3.xx, and
  Windows 95
* Programmer for all in-house = software for testing new units (50K units per year) allowing for = self-testing=20 and auto-configuration of all units in a DOS/Windows/Win95 = environments
*=20 Control and set-up all testing/repairing procedures for new units
* = Field=20 service calls for major customers
* Assistant to VP of = Engineering


1994-1995:   CMS Inc., Atlanta Ga.

Depot Service=20 Manager           =  =20

Job Duties/Responsibilities:
* In-house depot repair of = customers/contract=20 machines
* Provided technical support of desktop, laptop and = printers


1992-1994:    Universal Data Consultants, Atlanta = Ga.

Senior Hardware Technician / Production Senior Programmer

Job Duties/Responsibilities:
* In-house depot repair of = customers/contract=20 machines
* Provided technical support of desktop, laptop and = printers


1990-1992:  Antech Inc., Atlanta Ga.

Service Manager

Job Duties/Responsibilities:
* Provided desktop support and = computer=20 repair to customers
 
 
 1985-1990:  Compro = Inc.,=20 Atlanta Ga.
 
 Owner

Job Duties/Responsibilities:
* Provided desktop support and = computer=20 repair to customers

 


Skills:

* Hardware knowledge of Amiga's, Apples (Including Mac's) and IBM = computers=20 and IBM clones - to include  desktop and laptop computers
* = Knowledge of=20 most 9 - 24 pin printers and most lasers including the NEC 890 = Laser
*=20 Software knowledge of Amiga DOS, MS-DOS V1 - V7.1, Apple PRODOS, = MacSystem 6.XX=20 and Windows 95 OSR0, OSR1, & OSR2 (English, Spanish,  &=20 Portuguese).
* Solid working knowledge of Word, Word Perfect, Novell = 3.1x and=20 Win NT 3.xx/4.xx
* High level of proficiency of MS-DOS, Win 3.11 and = Win 95 -=20 installing, configuring, and troubleshooting units

 


Expertise:

* Identifying and implementing cost saving procedures
* Procedural = and=20 policy optimization
* Hardware/Software failure reduction either in=20 production or on-site
* Problem determination and resolution for=20 hardware/software problems
* ISO 900x policies and procedures
*=20 Programming: DOS Batch Files, BASIC and Visual BASIC.
* Designing / = building=20 hardware test equipment
* Management / employee negotiations / = relations
*=20 Hardware/ software Instructor
* Customer problem resolution

 


Awards/Certifications:

* A+ Certification
* Certified on most desktops, laptop/notebooks = and=20 printers from Apple, Canon, HP, IBM, Lexmark, Magitronic, NEC and = Okidata
*=20 Certified ISO 9002 auditor
* Award from IBM for customer service
* = Award=20 for superior service for laptop repair from Novell, given by Novell SE = Regional=20 VP
* Award from The GA Lottery Commission for assisting In the = planning and=20 implementation of all computers and networks state-wide, (mini frames to = PC's)=20 and ensuring that on day one of Initial company operations everything = works as=20 designed
* Production Efficiency Management Modeling certification = from the=20 Computer Manf. Tech. Management Assoc.
* IT Services Efficiency = Management=20 Modeling certification from the Computer Manf. Tech. Management = Assoc.
*=20 Customer Service & Relationships certification from the Computer = Manf. Tech.=20 Management=20 Assoc.

------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C0BAF1.5E16A180-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 1 19:11:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20A5837B71B; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 19:11:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from spike.unixfreak.org (spike [63.198.170.139]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86E8B3E25; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 19:11:36 -0700 (PDT) To: Bruce Evans Cc: Robert Watson , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, bde@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/26003: getgroups(2) lists NGROUPS_MAX but not syslimits.h In-Reply-To: ; from bde@zeta.org.au on "Sun, 1 Apr 2001 20:32:11 +1000 (EST)" Date: Sun, 01 Apr 2001 19:11:36 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010402021136.86E8B3E25@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bruce Evans writes: > In POSIX.1-1996: > > 1) NGROUPS_MAX is defined in . ( is BSD > implementation detail, so it shouldn't be documented.) > > 2) NGROUPS_MAX is a "Run-Time Increasable Value". This means that > applications may find that the actual maximum number of groups is > larger than their compile time value of NGROUPS_MAX. The run time > maximum is given by sysconf(_SC_NGROUPS_MAX). > > 3) Unlike some other POSIX limits, NGROUPS_MAX must be defined at > compile time, although its value is almost useless if its run time > value is larger. A footnote says that future revisions of POSIX.1 > are expected to permit omitting the definition of NGROUPS_MAX from > to indicate that its value is variable. Based on this, attached is a proposed patch to getgroups.2. Thanks, Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org Index: getgroups.2 =================================================================== RCS file: /st/src/FreeBSD/src/lib/libc/sys/getgroups.2,v retrieving revision 1.7 diff -u -r1.7 getgroups.2 --- getgroups.2 2000/04/21 09:41:40 1.7 +++ getgroups.2 2001/04/02 02:09:05 @@ -57,10 +57,6 @@ .Fn Getgroups returns the actual number of groups returned in .Fa gidset . -No more than -.Dv NGROUPS_MAX -will ever -be returned. If .Fa gidsetlen is zero, @@ -68,6 +64,19 @@ returns the number of supplementary group IDs associated with the calling process without modifying the array pointed to by .Fa gidset . +.Sh NOTES +.St -p1003.1-96 +defines an +.Dv NGROUPS_MAX +constant in +.Aq Pa limits.h ; +however, this value is +.Qq Run-Time Increasable , +and as such is effectively useless if the run-time value happens to be +larger. +Thus, dynamic allocation of +.Fa gidset +must always be used. .Sh RETURN VALUES A successful call returns the number of groups in the group set. A value of -1 indicates that an error occurred, and the error To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 1 19:21:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C59D37B71B; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 19:21:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (robert@fledge.pr.watson.org [192.0.2.3]) by fledge.watson.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f322LZh81984; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 22:21:36 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2001 22:21:35 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: jkh@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: makeworld documentation in handbook confuses users In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Was wondering if any progress was made on this front. Would be nice to get it fixed before 4.3-RELEASE. I saw some text fly back and forth but no commits... Also, Jordan, any luck with checking cvsupit for accuracy in cvsup-file creation / etc? Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services On Thu, 22 Mar 2001, Robert Watson wrote: > > In the name of improving testing of 4.3-BETA, I had a co-worker of mine > install a 4.2-RELEASE box yesterday, then update to -STABLE. He found the > makeworld instructions in the handbook very confusing, and potentially > inconsistent. For example, he was left unclear at the end over whether > the kernel or the world should be installed first, as the first part of > the document clearly states kernel first, and the second part slips back > into world first. Is there any chance we could get this text simplified a > bit before 4.3-RELEASE goes out the door? In particular, it would be > useful to add the following to the document, if it's not explicitly there > already: > > /* > * Build the new world, read the UPDATING notes first to see if there are > * any special actions of divergences from the normal procedure that must > * be taken to update. Change GENERIC below to reflect your kernel of > * choice. > */ > > # cd /usr/src > # more UPDATING # make sure to read notes > # make buildworld > # make buildkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC # customize for your kernel > > /* > * Install your kernel first, reboot so it is running and new syscalls are > * suported. > */ > > # make installkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC # customize for your kernel > # shutdown -r NOW # or pick your poison > > /* > * Now install the world (userland, that is), optionally merge your > * etc tree (experts only), and then go ahead and reboot to bring up the > * new version of userland. > */ > > # cd /usr/src > # make installworld > # mergemaster # optional merging of /etc > # shutdown -r NOW # or pick your poison > > Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project > robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 1 20:16: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from c001.snv.cp.net (c001-h017.c001.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B119737B71B for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 20:15:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vicky@vic.ky) Received: (cpmta 23930 invoked from network); 1 Apr 2001 20:14:40 -0700 Date: 1 Apr 2001 20:14:40 -0700 Message-ID: <20010402031440.23929.cpmta@c001.snv.cp.net> X-Sent: 2 Apr 2001 03:14:40 GMT Received: from [202.154.7.113] by mail.vic.ky with HTTP; 01 Apr 2001 20:14:40 PDT Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: question@freebsd.org From: Vicky@Vic.ky Cc: doc@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.7.1.9 Subject: a Mail Question X-Sent-From: vicky@vic.ky Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear sirs, I would like to ask a question about QMAIL stuffs.. I've installed QMAIL.. but seems periodic daily won't run well as root.. all users can accept mail .. except ROOT. root won't receive any emails. How to resolve this? thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sun Apr 1 21:33:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe66.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.30.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B5C837B718 for ; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 21:33:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jscijase@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Sun, 1 Apr 2001 21:33:32 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [66.24.44.161] From: "jscijase" To: Subject: Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 00:37:29 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0BB0D.192073A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Apr 2001 04:33:32.0344 (UTC) FILETIME=[12B9F380:01C0BB2E] Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0BB0D.192073A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To Whom It May Concern: I have a suggestion for the next release. I've been using Linux for = awhile and can set up a Unix workstation without any problems. However, = I tried to install FreeBSD and had problem with software selections. = I'm unsure which ones are appropriate for my need. It would be nice if = there are three options such as these:=20 1. Additional software for typical users 2. Additional software for developers 3. Additional software for server Thank you and have a nice day. Sincerely,=20 Casper T.=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0BB0D.192073A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
To Whom It May Concern:
 
I have a suggestion for the next = release. =20 I've been using Linux for awhile and can set up a Unix workstation = without any=20 problems.  However, I tried to install FreeBSD and had problem with = software selections.  I'm unsure which ones are appropriate for my=20 need.  It would be nice if there are three options such as=20 these: 
1.  Additional software = for typical=20 users
2.  Additional software for=20 developers
3.  Additional software for=20 server
 
Thank you and have a nice = day.
 
Sincerely,
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0005_01C0BB0D.192073A0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 2 2:50:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A819437B71F for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 02:50:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f329o0f35390; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 02:50:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from lindt.urgle.com (lindt.urgle.com [62.49.202.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83AAB37B718 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 02:48:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@urgle.com) Received: from mike by lindt.urgle.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14k0wy-0006UD-00 for FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org; Mon, 02 Apr 2001 10:48:40 +0100 Message-Id: Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 10:48:40 +0100 From: Mike Bristow Reply-To: mike@urgle.com To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/26286: format string warnings in man pages. Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 26286 >Category: docs >Synopsis: *printf(3) etc should gain format string warnings >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Apr 02 02:50:00 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Mike Bristow >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-BETA i386 >Organization: >Environment: RELENG_4 (sadly, I don't have a -current box atm) >Description: Man pages for stdarg(3), err(3), setproctitle(3), syslog(3), printf(3), gain a warning that missing arguments, or those of an unexpected type, may cause random errors and/or a security risk. >How-To-Repeat: $ man 3 printf >Fix: This patch (should) apply to a -stable tree, I don't have a -current box at the moment :( Index: share/man/man3/stdarg.3 =================================================================== RCS file: /upstream-repositories/freebsd.org/src/share/man/man3/stdarg.3,v retrieving revision 1.4.2.2 diff -u -r1.4.2.2 stdarg.3 --- share/man/man3/stdarg.3 2001/03/06 19:08:09 1.4.2.2 +++ share/man/man3/stdarg.3 2001/03/29 15:48:07 @@ -120,7 +120,7 @@ .Fa type is not compatible with the type of the actual next argument (as promoted according to the default argument promotions), -random errors will occur. +random errors will occur, which might lead to a security risk. .Pp The first use of the .Fn va_arg Index: lib/libc/gen/err.3 =================================================================== RCS file: /upstream-repositories/freebsd.org/src/lib/libc/gen/err.3,v retrieving revision 1.11.2.4 diff -u -r1.11.2.4 err.3 --- lib/libc/gen/err.3 2001/03/05 08:42:22 1.11.2.4 +++ lib/libc/gen/err.3 2001/03/29 15:48:07 @@ -97,9 +97,16 @@ and a space are output. If the .Fa fmt -argument is not NULL, the -.Xr printf 3 --like formatted error message is output. +argument is not NULL, then further output is controlled by treating +it as a format string that specifies how subsequent arguments (or +arguments accessed via the variable-length argument facilities of +.Xr stdarg 3 ) +are converted for output, in the same way as +.Xr printf 3 . +If the format string specifies an argument that does not exist, or +a type different from that actually given, random errors, that +could cause a security risk, may occur. +.Pp The output is terminated by a newline character. .Pp The Index: lib/libc/gen/setproctitle.3 =================================================================== RCS file: /upstream-repositories/freebsd.org/src/lib/libc/gen/setproctitle.3,v retrieving revision 1.16.2.2 diff -u -r1.16.2.2 setproctitle.3 --- lib/libc/gen/setproctitle.3 2000/12/08 13:49:24 1.16.2.2 +++ lib/libc/gen/setproctitle.3 2001/03/29 15:48:07 @@ -39,13 +39,17 @@ .Xr ps 1 command. .Pp -The title is set from the executable's name, followed by the -result of a -.Xr printf 3 -style expansion of the arguments as specified by the +If +.Va fmt +is not NULL, then the title is set from the executable's name, +followed by the result of treating .Va fmt -argument. -If the +as a format string that specifies how subsequent arguments are +converted, in the same was as +.Xr printf 3 . +If the format string specifies arguments that do not exist, or it +specifies a type different from that actually given, random errors, +that could cause a security risk, may occur. If the .Va fmt argument begins with a .Dq - Index: lib/libc/gen/syslog.3 =================================================================== RCS file: /upstream-repositories/freebsd.org/src/lib/libc/gen/syslog.3,v retrieving revision 1.9.2.4 diff -u -r1.9.2.4 syslog.3 --- lib/libc/gen/syslog.3 2001/03/06 16:45:55 1.9.2.4 +++ lib/libc/gen/syslog.3 2001/03/29 15:48:07 @@ -48,9 +48,9 @@ .Fd #include .Fd #include .Ft void -.Fn syslog "int priority" "const char *message" "..." +.Fn syslog "int priority" "const char *fmt" "..." .Ft void -.Fn vsyslog "int priority" "const char *message" "va_list args" +.Fn vsyslog "int priority" "const char *fmt" "va_list args" .Ft void .Fn openlog "const char *ident" "int logopt" "int facility" .Ft void @@ -60,33 +60,34 @@ .Sh DESCRIPTION The .Fn syslog -function -writes -.Fa message -to the system message logger. +function writes a message to the system message logger. The message is then written to the system console, log files, logged-in users, or forwarded to other machines as appropriate. (See .Xr syslogd 8 . ) .Pp -The message is identical to a -.Xr printf 3 -format string, except that +The message is created by treating +.Va fmt +as a format string that specifies how subsequent arguments are +converted, in the same was as +.Xr printf 3 , +with an additional convertion specifier of .Ql %m -is replaced by the current error -message. -(As denoted by the global variable +which is replaced by the current error message. (As denoted by +the global variable .Va errno ; see .Xr strerror 3 . ) -A trailing newline is added if none is present. +If the format string specifies arguments that do not exist, or it +specifies a type different from that actually given, random errors, +that could cause a security risk, may occur. A trailing newline +is added if none is present. .Pp The .Fn vsyslog -function -is an alternate form in which the arguments have already been captured -using the variable-length argument facilities of -.Xr varargs 3 . +function is an alternate form in which the arguments have already +been captured using the variable-length argument facilities of +.Xr stdarg 3 . .Pp The message is tagged with .Fa priority . Index: lib/libc/stdio/printf.3 =================================================================== RCS file: /upstream-repositories/freebsd.org/src/lib/libc/stdio/printf.3,v retrieving revision 1.17.2.5 diff -u -r1.17.2.5 printf.3 --- lib/libc/stdio/printf.3 2001/03/06 16:46:01 1.17.2.5 +++ lib/libc/stdio/printf.3 2001/03/29 15:48:07 @@ -170,7 +170,11 @@ the character .Cm % . The arguments must correspond properly (after type promotion) -with the conversion specifier. +with the conversion specifier. If they do not random errors, +which could cause a security risk, may occur. In particular, +user-supplied data should never be included in the format string +without checking that it is safe (eg, does not contain %s +and other character sequences with special meaning). After the .Cm % , the following appear in sequence: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 2 4:12:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B5137B718; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 04:12:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id VAA09317; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:12:18 +1000 Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:11:06 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-Sender: bde@besplex.bde.org To: Dima Dorfman Cc: Robert Watson , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, bde@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/26003: getgroups(2) lists NGROUPS_MAX but not syslimits.h In-Reply-To: <20010402021136.86E8B3E25@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 1 Apr 2001, Dima Dorfman wrote: > Bruce Evans writes: > > [POSIX.1-1996 specification of NGROUPS_MAX] > Based on this, attached is a proposed patch to getgroups.2. > Index: getgroups.2 > =================================================================== > RCS file: /st/src/FreeBSD/src/lib/libc/sys/getgroups.2,v > retrieving revision 1.7 > diff -u -r1.7 getgroups.2 > --- getgroups.2 2000/04/21 09:41:40 1.7 > +++ getgroups.2 2001/04/02 02:09:05 > @@ -57,10 +57,6 @@ > .Fn Getgroups > returns the actual number of groups returned in > .Fa gidset . > -No more than > -.Dv NGROUPS_MAX > -will ever > -be returned. > If > .Fa gidsetlen > is zero, > @@ -68,6 +64,19 @@ > returns the number of supplementary group IDs associated with > the calling process without modifying the array pointed to by > .Fa gidset . > +.Sh NOTES > +.St -p1003.1-96 > +defines an > +.Dv NGROUPS_MAX > +constant in > +.Aq Pa limits.h ; > +however, this value is > +.Qq Run-Time Increasable , > +and as such is effectively useless if the run-time value happens to be > +larger. > +Thus, dynamic allocation of > +.Fa gidset > +must always be used. This is too strict. Dynamic allocation or some sort of error recovery only must be used in very POSIX-portable software. An array of size NGROUPS_MAX is sufficient for [Free]BSD. We don't mention the POSIX requirements for most limits. We usually don't even use the POSIX names for the limits. E.g., PATH_MAX - 1 is usually spelled as 1023. I think we should distinguish the FreeBSD the behavior guaranteed by FreeBSD from the behavior guaranteed by POSIX very precisely if we document the POSIX behavior at all. I'm not sure which one should be documented in the main part of the man page. The single Unix Spec mostly documents only the POSIX behavior but FreeBSD man pages mostly only document only the FreeBSD behavior. Man pages that claim conformance to POSIX or STDC should be more careful about this (but getgroups.2 doesn't claim conformance :-). Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 2 4:44:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sheridan.dina.kvl.dk (sheridan.dina.kvl.dk [130.225.40.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0370B37B719; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 04:44:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hunter@dina.kvl.dk) Received: from babbage.dina.kvl.dk (babbage.dina.kvl.dk [130.225.40.217]) by sheridan.dina.kvl.dk (8.9.3/8.9.3/Debian 8.9.3-21) with ESMTP id NAA31296; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 13:44:39 +0200 Received: (from hunter@localhost) by babbage.dina.kvl.dk (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) id NAA05175; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 13:45:24 +0200 (MEST) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 13:45:24 +0200 From: Lars Josephsen To: dd@FreeBSD.org Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/23251: exports(5) man page erroneous in 4.2-STABLE Message-ID: <20010402134524.A4687@dina.kvl.dk> References: <200104010125.f311P2087450@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200104010125.f311P2087450@freefall.freebsd.org>; from dd@FreeBSD.org on Sat, Mar 31, 2001 at 05:25:02PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Mar 31, 2001 at 05:25:02PM -0800, dd@FreeBSD.org wrote: > Synopsis: exports(5) man page erroneous in 4.2-STABLE > > State-Changed-From-To: open->feedback > State-Changed-By: dd > State-Changed-When: Sat Mar 31 17:23:56 PST 2001 > State-Changed-Why: > I agree with Crist's analysis. There doesn't seem to be a problem > with the examples, and there is an FAQ entry about it anyway. Is this > sufficient? As I said, a few months ago: Yes. My original bug report predates the FAQ entry. > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=23251 If anyone could close this bug report, please do! Sincerely, Lars Josephsen -- Lars Josephsen LJ667-DK System Administrator, Department of Mathematics and Physics Royal Veterinary and Agricultural University, Copenhagen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 2 6:59:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B4B37B71E for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 06:59:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f32CSP508729; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 13:28:25 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 13:28:25 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Anselm Garbe Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Compiling doc-all fails Message-ID: <20010402132825.A8693@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <0104011429120B.00294@odin> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <0104011429120B.00294@odin>; from anselmg@t-online.de on Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 02:29:12PM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 02:29:12PM +0200, Anselm Garbe wrote: > Hi there, >=20 > after installing all the port /usr/ports/textproc/docproj with=20 > # make JADETEX=3Dyes install > and cvsupping the doc-all-sources, I tried to compile the doc-sources: =20 [...] > /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/multi-os/../../../share/sgml/default.d= sl=20 > -t sgml /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/multi-os/article.sgml >=20 > article.html || (rm -f article.html && false) > Bus error - core dumped > *** Error code 1 Looks like you've got dodgy hardware to me. Does it always fail in the same place? N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrIcGgACgkQk6gHZCw343X6agCdF9rKnilIisB3D6HCNXfRZD2N BHwAnRhRg1NrZYgtmzbp2YeBmZA5+Ff5 =KWDa -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --u3/rZRmxL6MmkK24-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 2 7:50: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 432E737B71D for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 07:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f32Eo1Z76312; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 07:50:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5943037B725 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 07:48:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f32EmiK76181; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 07:48:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200104021448.f32EmiK76181@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 07:48:44 -0700 (PDT) From: jrcharron@gen-int.com To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/26293: Just add detail on the tutorial Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 26293 >Category: docs >Synopsis: Just add detail on the tutorial >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: change-request >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Apr 02 07:50:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Jean-Richard Charron >Release: 4.2 >Organization: >Environment: Computer offline for the moment >Description: On this web page http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/pppoe.html. I try to configure the pppoe on my computer..And after 1 hours, I discover my problem. When you create the file /etc/ppp/ppp.conf you need to put at least 1 space after the name of the provider in the configuration parameter for this provider to have a working script. Example: ( Default and set are not in the same column. This is the good way) default: # or name_of_service_provider set device PPPoE:xl1 # replace xl1 with your ethernet device set mru 1492 set mtu 1492 set authname YOURLOGINNAME Please put this information on the handbook. Other think, on my Freebsd4.2, by default in the /etc/default/rc.conf nat is activated, ppp_nat="YES" so you don't need to add nat enable yes # if you want to enable nat for your local net on your /etc/ppp/ppp.conf Thanks Jean-Richard Charron >How-To-Repeat: >Fix: >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 2 10: 4:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com (mailout04.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C98A137B71A; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 10:04:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from anselmg@t-online.de) Received: from fwd01.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14k7kv-0003cR-01; Mon, 02 Apr 2001 19:04:41 +0200 Received: from odin (320068295437-0001@[217.81.140.2]) by fwd01.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14k7ko-0LOVvcC; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:04:34 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: anselmg@t-online.de (Anselm Garbe) To: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: Compiling doc-all fails Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:04:42 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: <0104011429120B.00294@odin> <20010402132825.A8693@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> In-Reply-To: <20010402132825.A8693@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01040218044200.00291@odin> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Sender: 320068295437-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday 02 April 2001 14:28, you wrote: > On Sun, Apr 01, 2001 at 02:29:12PM +0200, Anselm Garbe wrote: > > Hi there, > > > > after installing all the port /usr/ports/textproc/docproj with > > # make JADETEX=yes install > > and cvsupping the doc-all-sources, I tried to compile the doc-sources: > > [...] > > > /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/multi-os/../../../share/sgml/default.d > >sl -t sgml /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/articles/multi-os/article.sgml > > > article.html || (rm -f article.html && false) > > Bus error - core dumped > > *** Error code 1 > > Looks like you've got dodgy hardware to me. Does it always fail in the > same place? Yes, everytime in the same place! Everything else does well and the System runs stable since August 2000... I can remember, that I've compiled the doc-all a few weeks ago under the FreeBSD-current-branch. Thanks, Anselm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 2 11: 0:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 093BA37B725 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:00:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Received: (from peter@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f32I0Nw99903 for freebsd-doc@freebsd.org; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:00:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:00:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104021800.f32I0Nw99903@freefall.freebsd.org> X-Authentication-Warning: freefall.freebsd.org: peter set sender to owner-bugmaster@freebsd.org using -f From: FreeBSD bugmaster To: FreeBSD doc list Subject: Current unassigned doc problem reports Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Current FreeBSD problem reports The following is a listing of current problems submitted by FreeBSD users. These represent problem reports covering all versions including experimental development code and obsolete releases. Bugs can be in one of several states: o - open A problem report has been submitted, no sanity checking performed. a - analyzed The report has been examined by a team member and evaluated. f - feedback The problem has been solved, and the originator has been given a patch or a fix has been committed. The PR remains in this state pending a response from the originator. s - suspended The problem is not being worked on. This is a prime candidate for somebody who is looking for a project to do. If the problem cannot be solved at all, it will be closed, rather than suspended. c - closed A problem report is closed when any changes have been integrated, documented, and tested. Critical problems Serious problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o [2000/07/18] docs/20028 doc ASCII docs should reflect tags o [2000/12/28] docs/23910 doc Handbook Chapter 14. Sound -- some fixes o [2001/01/05] docs/24083 doc change layout and content of kernel build o [2001/01/15] docs/24363 doc lack of explanation o [2001/03/18] docs/25890 doc [PATCH] There's no general guidance on cr 5 problems total. Non-critical problems S Submitted Tracker Resp. Description ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- a [1998/07/31] docs/7456 doc dialog(3) man page outdated o [1999/04/07] docs/10997 doc Problem with query-pr-summary.cgi o [1999/09/25] docs/13950 doc webpage idea o [1999/09/25] docs/13967 doc FreeBSD Related Publications in Korea o [1999/10/06] docs/14158 doc md5(1) manpage should not claim the md5 a o [1999/10/27] docs/14565 doc ioctl() codes for device type `fd' (flopp f [2000/03/20] docs/17521 doc Proposed FAQ on assembly programming o [2000/03/25] docs/17598 doc installworld over NFS documentation no lo o [2000/04/03] kern/17774 doc stray irq7 o [2000/05/03] docs/18379 doc Information on SSH hard to find in Handbo o [2000/05/19] docs/18674 doc ntptime.htm and ntptime.8 o [2000/06/05] docs/19010 doc Bad144 obsoletion by 4.0 is undocumented; o [2000/06/23] docs/19481 doc Serial Communications chapter in Handbook f [2000/07/17] docs/19981 doc Indonesian translations o [2000/08/04] docs/20400 doc Building a kernel with debugging info sec o [2000/08/10] docs/20528 doc sysconf(3) manpage doesn't mention posix. o [2000/08/20] docs/20738 doc correction and modification to clocks(7) o [2000/08/23] docs/20794 doc Request 2 good documents under people.fre o [2000/10/07] docs/21826 doc ARP proxy feature lacks documentation o [2000/10/10] docs/21896 doc Mini-HOWTO for stp driver o [2000/10/26] docs/22333 doc share/doc/smm/07.lpd building moved in 3. o [2000/11/01] docs/22470 doc man 3 msgrcv's BUGS section needs updatin o [2000/11/08] docs/22701 doc lists missing from search options o [2000/11/11] docs/22778 doc Typo's in About.txt-Layout.txt o [2000/11/14] docs/22861 doc newsyslog man page is misleading and inco o [2000/12/01] docs/23230 doc missing index.html links f [2000/12/03] docs/23251 doc exports(5) man page erroneous in 4.2-STAB o [2000/12/04] docs/23292 doc /etc/dumpdates is not documented in secti o [2000/12/11] docs/23488 doc A manpage for section 7 regarding a Toron o [2000/12/14] docs/23559 doc missing manpage for hsearch libc function o [2000/12/22] docs/23767 doc ifconfig(8) manual page does not document o [2001/01/02] docs/24035 doc ptrace(2) PT_STEP incorrect documentation o [2001/01/26] docs/24662 doc too many questions about source managemen o [2001/02/01] docs/24786 doc missing FILES descriptions in sa(4) o [2001/02/02] docs/24802 doc fcntl man page does not specify what happ o [2001/02/03] docs/24839 doc fix ether.bridge o [2001/02/05] docs/24869 doc Some text elf.5 is duplicated o [2001/02/05] docs/24887 doc "make -j# installworld" can (will?) fail o [2001/02/06] docs/24923 doc 4.2 Release Errata page has no informatio o [2001/02/11] docs/25000 doc matcd(4) SYNOPSIS is wrong o [2001/02/11] docs/25016 doc symlink(7) manpage says symlinks have no o [2001/02/16] docs/25134 doc Kernel USER_LDT option help incomplete a [2001/02/20] docs/25239 doc fdp-primer/tools/chapter.sgml says about o [2001/02/26] docs/25392 doc Chapter 9 pages could use 'location of fu o [2001/02/26] docs/25405 doc misleading warning from catman(1), etc. o [2001/02/27] docs/25420 doc man page missing important information. o [2001/02/27] docs/25437 doc kernel configs are the only precious file o [2001/02/28] docs/25450 doc remove NCPU from docs o [2001/03/10] docs/25648 doc typos in some manpages (dependant) o [2001/03/10] docs/25657 doc no netid(5) man page o [2001/03/12] docs/25735 doc error in handbook o [2001/03/13] docs/25774 doc incorrect synopsis in vnconfig(8) o [2001/03/16] docs/25876 doc typos in jail.2 o [2001/03/19] docs/25919 doc supported hardware list says 'no' for Sou o [2001/03/22] docs/26001 doc typo in sched_get_priority_max.2 f [2001/03/22] docs/26003 doc getgroups(2) lists NGROUPS_MAX but not sy o [2001/03/22] docs/26006 doc Changing zone(9) man page o [2001/03/24] docs/26060 doc No man page for /etc/host.conf o [2001/03/25] docs/26081 doc patch to synchronize list of staff in Han o [2001/03/28] docs/26194 doc BSD Family Tree needs updated o [2001/04/02] docs/26286 doc *printf(3) etc should gain format string o [2001/04/02] docs/26293 doc Just add detail on the tutorial 62 problems total. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 2 11:38:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ruhr.de (in-ruhr4.ruhr.de [212.23.134.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4F73F37B728 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 11:38:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ue@nathan.ruhr.de) Received: (qmail 8361 invoked by uid 10); 2 Apr 2001 18:38:33 -0000 Received: (from ue@localhost) by nathan.ruhr.de (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f32IcsX51068; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:38:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ue) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:38:54 +0200 From: Udo Erdelhoff To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/de_DE.ISO_8859-1/share/sgml freebsd.dsl Message-ID: <20010402203854.A46362@nathan.ruhr.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Nik Clayton References: <200104011359.f31Dx9p71088@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010402091523.A2771@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010402091523.A2771@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 09:15:23AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 09:15:23AM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > Alex, I'll answer for him because I'm responsible for both the fix as well as the log message... =20 > > Modified files: > > de_DE.ISO_8859-1/share/sgml freebsd.dsl=20 > > Log: > > Fix build of German FAQ after the latest stylesheet changes: >=20 > How did the stylesheet changes break the build? I thought everything > had tested out OK? Well, every build resulted in this message: /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl:98:25:E: reference to \ undefined variable "$create-refentry-xref-link$" It is not a fatal error and I still got something looking like HTML but I didn't like it. That's why I created a patch, tested it and told Alex to commit it. BTW, this should affect all translation teams and does affect everybody who uses the FDP framework for his own documents unless he includes en_US.ISO_8859-1/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl or (after this fix) de_DE.ISO_8859-1/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl. Been there, done that, had a screaming fit, wrote a patch. /s/Udo --=20 "There are only a few problems in this world that cannot be solved by the correct application of a sufficient amount of high explosives" - a.s.r. --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iQCVAwUBOsjHPkPoh1XnT6hxAQHzwAP+Ip6LmBXz7Iqjgd/Mc/6lpv0L+wFEMQyR w+bExCZx5yaT2ilg/KDnGGYXeKHaoQbZE5LxXumnqf3R3ZvuXbtBQnAt1Oluds8s 8uTj49bd2MPyfrcuoACMBGHNkqCD4lEBuFuIASX1QDoZFlMfnjp2CQErCGRWO26g ppuovEdMro4= =Fkfs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 2 12: 7:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f76.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.76]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3958537B71C for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:07:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stalingrad20@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:07:43 -0700 Received: from 64.24.217.132 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 02 Apr 2001 19:07:42 GMT X-Originating-IP: [64.24.217.132] From: "Eric Buchanan" To: freebsd-doc@freeBSD.org Subject: Where is Libh's source? Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 19:07:42 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Apr 2001 19:07:43.0006 (UTC) FILETIME=[31C1D3E0:01C0BBA8] Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I was trying to find Libh's source in the source tree for FreeBSD-current. Where would I go looking to find it? I'm assigned to add Spanish language support to it and need to look at the source to start my work. Thanks! Eric Buchanan _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 2 12: 9:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CDE037B722; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:09:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f32J9MC12983; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:09:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:09:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200104021909.f32J9MC12983@freefall.freebsd.org> To: ddavid@ican.net, bmah@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, bmah@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/22778: Typo's in About.txt-Layout.txt Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Typo's in About.txt-Layout.txt State-Changed-From-To: open->suspended State-Changed-By: bmah State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 2 12:07:03 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Thanks for pointing this out! The actual size of an unpacked ports collection is about 80MB, so I did the opposite of what you recommended and changed ABOUT.TXT to match LAYOUT.TXT. This PR is now "suspended" until we merge the change into 4-STABLE. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->bmah Responsible-Changed-By: bmah Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Apr 2 12:07:03 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll fix this. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=22778 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 2 12:10:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F2037B73C for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:10:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id B2A3113614; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:10:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:10:10 -0400 From: Chris Faulhaber To: Eric Buchanan Cc: freebsd-doc@freeBSD.org Subject: Re: Where is Libh's source? Message-ID: <20010402151010.B13115@peitho.fxp.org> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Faulhaber , Eric Buchanan , freebsd-doc@freeBSD.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="aVD9QWMuhilNxW9f" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from stalingrad20@hotmail.com on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 07:07:42PM -0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --aVD9QWMuhilNxW9f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 07:07:42PM -0000, Eric Buchanan wrote: > Hello, > I was trying to find Libh's source in the source tree for FreeBSD-current= .=20 > Where would I go looking to find it? > I'm assigned to add Spanish language support to it and need to look at th= e=20 > source to start my work. libh is not in the FreeBSD source tree. See http://people.FreeBSD.org/~alex/libh/ for details on how to access the sources and the freebsd-libh mailing list for other stuff. --=20 Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org --aVD9QWMuhilNxW9f Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: FreeBSD: The Power To Serve iEYEARECAAYFAjrIzpIACgkQObaG4P6BelC2JgCgmnMvOfcHoRtd7fq3Glr7YeEJ DRoAn246a/hRdm7B6y6dKndjdyj1F6ZB =7cjV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --aVD9QWMuhilNxW9f-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 2 12:51: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f227.pav1.hotmail.com [64.4.31.227]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFEF637B71E for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:51:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stalingrad20@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 12:51:02 -0700 Received: from 216.126.134.194 by pv1fd.pav1.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 02 Apr 2001 19:51:02 GMT X-Originating-IP: [216.126.134.194] From: "Eric Buchanan" To: jedgar@fxp.org Cc: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Where is Libh's source? Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 19:51:02 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Apr 2001 19:51:02.0782 (UTC) FILETIME=[3F5829E0:01C0BBAE] Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thank you very much for the information! Cheers, Eric ----Original Message Follows---- From: Chris Faulhaber To: Eric Buchanan CC: freebsd-doc@freeBSD.org Subject: Re: Where is Libh's source? Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:10:10 -0400 On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 07:07:42PM -0000, Eric Buchanan wrote: > Hello, > I was trying to find Libh's source in the source tree for FreeBSD-current. > Where would I go looking to find it? > I'm assigned to add Spanish language support to it and need to look at the > source to start my work. libh is not in the FreeBSD source tree. See http://people.FreeBSD.org/~alex/libh/ for details on how to access the sources and the freebsd-libh mailing list for other stuff. -- Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org << attach3 >> _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 2 15:13:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-141-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6490537B719; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:13:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f32M6qC18166; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:06:52 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 23:06:52 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, Nik Clayton Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/de_DE.ISO_8859-1/share/sgml freebsd.dsl Message-ID: <20010402230652.B17348@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <200104011359.f31Dx9p71088@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010402091523.A2771@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010402203854.A46362@nathan.ruhr.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rQ2U398070+RC21q" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010402203854.A46362@nathan.ruhr.de>; from ue@nathan.ruhr.de on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 08:38:54PM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --rQ2U398070+RC21q Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O" Content-Disposition: inline --zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 08:38:54PM +0200, Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > > How did the stylesheet changes break the build? I thought everything > > had tested out OK? >=20 > Well, every build resulted in this message: >=20 > /usr/local/bin/jade:/usr/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl:98:25:E: reference to= \ > undefined variable "$create-refentry-xref-link$" >=20 > It is not a fatal error and I still got something looking like HTML but I > didn't like it. That's why I created a patch, tested it and told Alex to > commit it. Ah, OK. How about the attached, which should quiet things in one fell swoop? It might be better to refactor the handling of citerefentry, so that $create-refentry-xref-link$ is only called if %refentry-xref-link% is true. I'm not sure of the best way to do that yet though. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=d Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Index: freebsd.dsl =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D RCS file: /home/ncvs/doc/share/sgml/freebsd.dsl,v retrieving revision 1.26 diff -u -r1.26 freebsd.dsl --- freebsd.dsl 2001/03/24 09:40:24 1.26 +++ freebsd.dsl 2001/04/02 22:03:46 @@ -90,6 +90,10 @@ ;; /REFENTRY #f) =20 + ; Empty function to quiet warnings + (define ($create-refentry-xref-link$ refentrytitle manvolnum) + (literal "")) + (element citerefentry (let* ((refentrytitle (select-elements (children (current-node)) (normalize "refentrytitle= "))) --zx4FCpZtqtKETZ7O-- --rQ2U398070+RC21q Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrI9/sACgkQk6gHZCw343UklwCcDUUfCbDpyFZLoALIi6k+hIUT paIAn3U1Ohcs+bGE5WtBhnpUjeuGTPbK =NC6R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rQ2U398070+RC21q-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 2 15:25:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from m-net.arbornet.org (m-net.arbornet.org [209.142.209.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD13437B720 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 15:25:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from spader@m-net.arbornet.org) Received: (from spader@localhost) by m-net.arbornet.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f32MPrL85490 for doc@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:25:53 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from spader) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:25:53 -0400 From: "Zachary M. Smith" To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Shell Resources Message-ID: <20010402182552.A84132@arbornet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not sure if this is the right place to ask this, but I am wondering what is required to provide shell access to FreeBSD Developers? I help admin a public access UNIX system which runs FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE and would like to provide support for developers. I'd have to get approval from the organization that oversees the system before I committed any resources in their name, but I would like to help. If this is the wrong place ask, please kindly direct me to the correct address. for more information on our system, take a look at http://www.arbornet.org thanks in advance! --=20 Zach Smith +-------------------+ | UNIX Nerd | | & | | Professional Geek | +-------------------+ spader@arbornet.org GPG: EB0C 89F5 697E FDD5 3AD4 2ADE 33A1 5A5E 50B7 1FA0 PGP: 9F 67 72 95 8D 15 2D DC 19 D8 23 75 60 61 CE 0D --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrI/HAACgkQM6FaXlC3H6AUuQCfaC39cjc0vjH2XP0CtFhdGe+O g10AnRtYk8T7/FM/HeGBbmBhsi5AcdrT =szNn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 2 17:19:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from aslan.scsiguy.com (aslan.scsiguy.com [63.229.232.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 610A237B719 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 17:19:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gibbs@scsiguy.com) Received: from scsiguy.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.scsiguy.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f330Jes99260 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:19:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from gibbs@scsiguy.com) Message-Id: <200104030019.f330Jes99260@aslan.scsiguy.com> To: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Nroff help. Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 18:19:40 -0600 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey guys, I'm trying to update the ahc.4 man page and, hoping to be a good "doc" citizen, I'm trying to properly columnize some of my tables. For simple tables where I don't exceed the argument limits, all is well. Unfortunately, as in the example below, I can't seem to get column widths to stick when using the Xo/Xc macros. Any ideas? .Sh SUPPORTED HARDWARE .Bd -ragged .Bl -column "aic7770" "MIPS" "PCI/64-66" "Max" "Max" "SCBs" "Features" .It Xo .Em Chip Ta Em MIPS Ta Em Bus Ta Xo .Em MaxSync Ta Em MaxWidth Ta Em SCBs Ta Xo .Em Features .Xc Xc Xc .It Xo .No aic7770 Ta 10 Ta "EISA/VL" Ta Xo .No 10MHz Ta 16Bit Ta 4 Ta 1 .Xc Xc .It Xo .No aic7850 Ta 10 Ta "PCI/32" Ta Xo .No 10MHz Ta 8Bit Ta 3 .Xc Xc .El .Ed -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 2 18:40: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A5637B724 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f331e2556686; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:40:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104030140.f331e2556686@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/26286: format string warnings in man pages. Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/26286; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: mike@urgle.com Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26286: format string warnings in man pages. Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 18:38:26 -0700 Mike Bristow writes: > >Number: 26286 > >Category: docs > >Synopsis: *printf(3) etc should gain format string warnings > > Index: lib/libc/gen/err.3 > =================================================================== > RCS file: /upstream-repositories/freebsd.org/src/lib/libc/gen/err.3,v > retrieving revision 1.11.2.4 > diff -u -r1.11.2.4 err.3 > --- lib/libc/gen/err.3 2001/03/05 08:42:22 1.11.2.4 > +++ lib/libc/gen/err.3 2001/03/29 15:48:07 > @@ -97,9 +97,16 @@ > and a space are output. > If the > .Fa fmt > -argument is not NULL, the > -.Xr printf 3 > --like formatted error message is output. > +argument is not NULL, then further output is controlled by treating > +it as a format string that specifies how subsequent arguments (or > +arguments accessed via the variable-length argument facilities of > +.Xr stdarg 3 ) > +are converted for output, in the same way as > +.Xr printf 3 . > +If the format string specifies an argument that does not exist, or > +a type different from that actually given, random errors, that > +could cause a security risk, may occur. > +.Pp [ Picking a random part of the patch to use as context. ] The idea behind this is great, but I don't really like how the above text is duplicated everywhere. It seems unnatural. Ideally, the above would be replaced with a "see something(3) for information on what [a format string] implies". Unfortunately, I don't know what this something(3) should be; printf(3) is the first thing that comes to mind, but printf(3) documents a particular function; it just so happens that most C programmers' first sight of a format string was in the context of a call to printf(). To demonstrate the importance of not duplicating this stuff, I point out this [shortcoming]: the text above, which is pretty much the same in all your other changes, doesn't mention the fact that using a dynamic format string--more accurately, one which an outsider (user) can control--can lead to disaster just as quickly as specifying the wrong type of arguments. Although technically it's the same problem (i.e., someone specifies a format the programmer didn't know about, leading, e.g., err(3) to think argument x is of type y when it's really of type z, or just nonexistent), it's a very common error (this is what's recently became known as a "format string bug"). Regards, Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 2 18:50: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68E337B71B for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f331o2i57409; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:50:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 18:50:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104030150.f331o2i57409@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/26293: Just add detail on the tutorial Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/26293; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: jrcharron@gen-int.com Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org, brian@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26293: Just add detail on the tutorial Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 18:43:07 -0700 [ cc'd to brain, the ppp maintainer ] jrcharron@gen-int.com writes: > > >Number: 26293 > >Category: docs > >Synopsis: Just add detail on the tutorial > > I try to configure the pppoe on my computer..And after 1 hours, I discover > my problem. When you create the file /etc/ppp/ppp.conf you need to put > at least 1 space after the name of the provider in the configuration > parameter for this provider to have a working script. > > Example: ( Default and set are not in the same column. This is the good way) > default: # or name_of_service_provider > set device PPPoE:xl1 # replace xl1 with your ethernet device > set mru 1492 > set mtu 1492 > set authname YOURLOGINNAME Brain, can you confirm that this is indeed the intended behavior, and not a bug? If that's the case, I'll update the docs to mention this (unless you want to do it). Thanks, Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 2 19:10:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5B5D37B720 for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:10:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f332A3d61765; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:10:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 19:10:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104030210.f332A3d61765@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Brian Somers Subject: Re: docs/26293: Just add detail on the tutorial Reply-To: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/26293; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Brian Somers To: Dima Dorfman Cc: jrcharron@gen-int.com, freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org, brian@freebsd.org, brian@Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: docs/26293: Just add detail on the tutorial Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 03:10:15 +0100 > [ cc'd to brain, the ppp maintainer ] > > jrcharron@gen-int.com writes: > > > > >Number: 26293 > > >Category: docs > > >Synopsis: Just add detail on the tutorial > > > > I try to configure the pppoe on my computer..And after 1 hours, I discover > > my problem. When you create the file /etc/ppp/ppp.conf you need to put > > at least 1 space after the name of the provider in the configuration > > parameter for this provider to have a working script. > > > > Example: ( Default and set are not in the same column. This is the good way) > > default: # or name_of_service_provider > > set device PPPoE:xl1 # replace xl1 with your ethernet device > > set mru 1492 > > set mtu 1492 > > set authname YOURLOGINNAME > > Brain, can you confirm that this is indeed the intended behavior, and > not a bug? If that's the case, I'll update the docs to mention this > (unless you want to do it). Yes, all lines that are not labels should be indented by at least one space or tab. This is documented, but now that I look through the docs, it seems it's not very clear (it's surprising what you can take for granted!!!). Fire away if you want to clarify things. > Thanks, > > Dima Dorfman > dima@unixfreak.org Cheers. -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 2 21: 0: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C2D37B71D for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f33402272774; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 21:00:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from chuck.plethora.net (chuck.plethora.net [205.166.146.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9419D37B71E for ; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 20:51:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from seebs@chuck.plethora.net) Received: (from seebs@localhost) by chuck.plethora.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f32JgPi00612; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:42:25 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from seebs) Message-Id: <200104021942.f32JgPi00612@chuck.plethora.net> Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 14:42:25 -0500 (CDT) From: seebs@plethora.net Reply-To: seebs@plethora.net To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.2 Subject: docs/26308: remote(5) typo Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 26308 >Category: docs >Synopsis: remote(5) type ("insure" for "ensure") >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: low >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Mon Apr 02 21:00:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: seebs >Release: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 >Organization: >Environment: N/A >Description: remote(5) says, in part: ... the device to insure only one user at a time has However, it means "ensure". To insure is to run something curiously similar to a protection racket; to make certain of is to "ensure", with an e. >How-To-Repeat: man 5 remote >Fix: Change "insure" to "ensure". >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 2 22: 2:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CC6437B726; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 22:02:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f3352u280257; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 22:02:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 22:02:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200104030502.f3352u280257@freefall.freebsd.org> To: hunter@dina.kvl.dk, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/23251: exports(5) man page erroneous in 4.2-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: exports(5) man page erroneous in 4.2-STABLE State-Changed-From-To: feedback->closed State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 2 22:02:29 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Originator reports that the FAQ entry mentioned in the audit-trail is sufficient. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=23251 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Mon Apr 2 22:43:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77BF937B71E; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 22:43:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f335heR91323; Mon, 2 Apr 2001 22:43:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Mon, 2 Apr 2001 22:43:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200104030543.f335heR91323@freefall.freebsd.org> To: seebs@plethora.net, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, dd@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/26308: remote(5) type ("insure" for "ensure") Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: remote(5) type ("insure" for "ensure") State-Changed-From-To: open->suspended State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Mon Apr 2 22:43:17 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Fixed in -current, awaiting MFC. Thanks! Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dd Responsible-Changed-By: dd Responsible-Changed-When: Mon Apr 2 22:43:17 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: I'll MFC it. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=26308 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 3 1:50: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13D3C37B718 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 01:50:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f338o5f19666; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 01:50:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 01:50:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104030850.f338o5f19666@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Mike Bristow Subject: Re: docs/26286: format string warnings in man pages. Reply-To: Mike Bristow Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/26286; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Mike Bristow To: Dima Dorfman Cc: mike@urgle.com, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26286: format string warnings in man pages. Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:48:38 +0100 On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 06:38:26PM -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote: > The idea behind this is great, but I don't really like how the above > text is duplicated everywhere. [ snip beginings of a vague idea ;-) ] I see what you mean, and I agree to an extent (I'm not to sure if programmers will follow the cross reference, though. Hmm. It's difficult to get the balance between shoving info down peoples throat, and repeating yourself so often it gets boring). Perhaps style(9) is the right place to mention it in detail. Hmm. I'll try and work something up along those lines, and see what it looks like. Thanks for the feedback! -- Mike Bristow, seebitwopie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 3 7:33:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dfw-smtpout4.email.verio.net (dfw-smtpout4.email.verio.net [129.250.36.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7AC37B720 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:33:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bokr@accessone.com) Received: from [129.250.38.64] (helo=dfw-mmp4.email.verio.net) by dfw-smtpout4.email.verio.net with esmtp id 14kRs9-0005Cp-00; Tue, 03 Apr 2001 14:33:29 +0000 Received: from [63.183.56.135] (helo=gazelle.accessone.com) by dfw-mmp4.email.verio.net with esmtp id 14kRs7-0006lv-00; Tue, 03 Apr 2001 14:33:28 +0000 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.1.20010403072605.00ae87c0@mail.accessone.com> X-Sender: bokr@mail.accessone.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 07:33:26 -0700 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org From: Bengt Richter Subject: Re: docs/26286: format string warnings in man pages. Cc: Dima Dorfman In-Reply-To: <200104030140.f331e2556686@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org PMJI, but in order not to clutter the text itself, perhaps a minimal footnote reference like this[1], and in the footnote, a (hyperlinked?) reference to a central place for security risk matters, something like the below? -- [1] See Security Risks Compendium, Section nnn.mmm, re format string risks. ---------------------------- (I am implicitly suggesting that security risk documentation be accumulated in a single place for reference and browsing. This would serve several goals at once, not least of which is a single instance of explanatory text to update when appropriate. Other format-string based code docs could also reference the same security section, avoiding cluttering of functional info with extensive text discussing security). HTH, but I can't volunteer to do anything more about it for now. Regards Bengt Richter PS., sorry if this got duplicated. Messing with ISP access setup. At 18:40 2001-04-02, you wrote: >The following reply was made to PR docs/26286; it has been noted by GNATS. > >From: Dima Dorfman >To: mike@urgle.com >Cc: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: docs/26286: format string warnings in man pages. >Date: Mon, 02 Apr 2001 18:38:26 -0700 > > Mike Bristow writes: > > >Number: 26286 > > >Category: docs > > >Synopsis: *printf(3) etc should gain format string warnings > > > > Index: lib/libc/gen/err.3 > > =================================================================== > > RCS file: /upstream-repositories/freebsd.org/src/lib/libc/gen/err.3,v > > retrieving revision 1.11.2.4 > > diff -u -r1.11.2.4 err.3 > > --- lib/libc/gen/err.3 2001/03/05 08:42:22 1.11.2.4 > > +++ lib/libc/gen/err.3 2001/03/29 15:48:07 > > @@ -97,9 +97,16 @@ > > and a space are output. > > If the > > .Fa fmt > > -argument is not NULL, the > > -.Xr printf 3 > > --like formatted error message is output. > > +argument is not NULL, then further output is controlled by treating > > +it as a format string that specifies how subsequent arguments (or > > +arguments accessed via the variable-length argument facilities of > > +.Xr stdarg 3 ) > > +are converted for output, in the same way as > > +.Xr printf 3 . > > +If the format string specifies an argument that does not exist, or > > +a type different from that actually given, random errors, that > > +could cause a security risk, may occur. > > +.Pp > > [ Picking a random part of the patch to use as context. ] > > The idea behind this is great, but I don't really like how the above > text is duplicated everywhere. It seems unnatural. Ideally, the > above would be replaced with a "see something(3) for information on > what [a format string] implies". Unfortunately, I don't know what > this something(3) should be; printf(3) is the first thing that comes > to mind, but printf(3) documents a particular function; it just so > happens that most C programmers' first sight of a format string was in > the context of a call to printf(). > > To demonstrate the importance of not duplicating this stuff, I point > out this [shortcoming]: the text above, which is pretty much the same > in all your other changes, doesn't mention the fact that using a > dynamic format string--more accurately, one which an outsider (user) > can control--can lead to disaster just as quickly as specifying the > wrong type of arguments. Although technically it's the same problem > (i.e., someone specifies a format the programmer didn't know about, > leading, e.g., err(3) to think argument x is of type y when it's > really of type z, or just nonexistent), it's a very common error (this > is what's recently became known as a "format string bug"). > > Regards, > > Dima Dorfman > dima@unixfreak.org > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 3 7:38:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-141-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F39BC37B71B for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 07:38:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f33EXRH09174; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:33:27 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 15:33:26 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Chris Costello Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FAQ reorganization Message-ID: <20010403153326.A7695@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010325143457.B80466@holly.calldei.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010325143457.B80466@holly.calldei.com>; from chris@calldei.com on Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 02:34:57PM -0600 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 02:34:57PM -0600, Chris Costello wrote: > I've (finally) put together a tarball of the first stage of > the FAQ reorganization (sticking each chapter in its own file). > How does this structure look to you all? Is it ready to go into > the tree? I've missed something, I think. I thought one of the things this was going to do was restructure the content of the FAQ to be useful? N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrJ3zQACgkQk6gHZCw343VuwgCfZexttvDRgA2nD6brPNGio5tK w1MAoI8y8gSk5sYj4/6Lu3eGA5rmY8U7 =HzCD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 3 8:25:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rapier.smartspace.co.za (rapier.smartspace.co.za [66.8.25.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B6E6237B719 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 08:25:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@rapier.smartspace.co.za) Received: (qmail 66213 invoked by uid 1001); 3 Apr 2001 14:57:54 -0000 Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 16:57:54 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: David O'Brien Cc: Dima Dorfman , doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq book.sgml Message-ID: <20010403165754.A64735@rapier.smartspace.co.za> References: <20010402211043.A84692@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010403045455.0A3A93E09@bazooka.unixfreak.org> <20010403073027.C23112@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010403073027.C23112@dragon.nuxi.com>; from obrien@FreeBSD.org on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 07:30:27AM -0700 Organization: Building Intelligence X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ cvs -> doc ] On Tue 2001-04-03 (07:30), David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 09:54:54PM -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote: > > > Agreed. Would someone please pick and convention and publish it?? > > > I never know what to do when I add to our docs. > > > > AFAIK, the convention is that you use what the rest (or majority) of > > the file you're editing uses. > > In many of the doc files, it is about 50/50. So which to go with? Tabs. It's also what the example vim settings, and the default emacs settings, do. Of course, the files don't all necessarily represent that. However, people wanting to do wholesale changes should at least talk to the doc people before deciding on their own. (FWIW, I seem to recall the tabs thing being accepted, after I proposed it. I'll try to remember to codify it later, when I have more than seconds between meetings and connectivity problems.) Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 3 9:16:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from scientia.demon.co.uk (scientia.demon.co.uk [212.228.14.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A84EA37B725; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:16:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ben@scientia.demon.co.uk) Received: from strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk ([fec0::2e0:7dff:fe81:749d]) by scientia.demon.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14kTTV-0007zR-00; Tue, 03 Apr 2001 17:16:09 +0100 Received: (from ben@localhost) by strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f33GG9U49775; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 17:16:09 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from ben) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 17:16:08 +0100 From: Ben Smithurst To: Jim Mock , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq book.sgml Message-ID: <20010403171608.E12452@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> References: <20010402211043.A84692@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010403045455.0A3A93E09@bazooka.unixfreak.org> <20010403011117.A2616@guinness.osdn.com> <20010403073533.E46362@nathan.ruhr.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010403073533.E46362@nathan.ruhr.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ moved from -committers to -doc ] Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > I do not see the word "tab" in there. But maybe it is time to add this word > to this chapter. As in "Do NOT use tabs." If the word "tab" gets added it should be in the form "leading sets of 8 spaces on a line should be replaced by a single tab" or something, in fact I'm sure I remember reading that *was* the rule for documentation at one point, though it certainly doesn't say that in the FDP primer. Perhaps Nik can comment since he's ultimately in charge. -- Ben Smithurst / ben@FreeBSD.org / PGP: 0x99392F7D To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 3 9:26:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pike.osd.bsdi.com (pike.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8A4137B718; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:26:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: from foo.osd.bsdi.com (root@foo.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.28.137]) by pike.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f33GQ1K46021; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:26:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@foo.osd.bsdi.com) Received: (from jhb@localhost) by foo.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f33GOep18268; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 09:24:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010403171608.E12452@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 09:24:40 -0700 (PDT) Organization: BSD, Inc. From: John Baldwin To: Ben Smithurst Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq book.sgml Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org, Jim Mock Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 03-Apr-01 Ben Smithurst wrote: > [ moved from -committers to -doc ] > > Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > >> I do not see the word "tab" in there. But maybe it is time to add this word >> to this chapter. As in "Do NOT use tabs." > > If the word "tab" gets added it should be in the form "leading sets of > 8 spaces on a line should be replaced by a single tab" or something, in > fact I'm sure I remember reading that *was* the rule for documentation > at one point, though it certainly doesn't say that in the FDP primer. > Perhaps Nik can comment since he's ultimately in charge. It's the way almost every editor in the world functions. Well, vim and {x,}emacs do at least. :) Also, see style(9). Stating that we use a 2 space indentation does not preclude using "optimal fill". We use a 4 space second level indent in code, but we don't use spaces to indent that entire line of code. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.Baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 3 11:38: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-141-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B4BB37B726; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 11:37:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f33HQsF60481; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:26:54 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:26:54 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Ben Smithurst Cc: Jim Mock , freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq book.sgml Message-ID: <20010403182653.A60460@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010402211043.A84692@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010403045455.0A3A93E09@bazooka.unixfreak.org> <20010403011117.A2616@guinness.osdn.com> <20010403073533.E46362@nathan.ruhr.de> <20010403171608.E12452@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010403171608.E12452@strontium.scientia.demon.co.uk>; from ben@FreeBSD.org on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 05:16:08PM +0100 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 05:16:08PM +0100, Ben Smithurst wrote: > [ moved from -committers to -doc ] >=20 > Udo Erdelhoff wrote: >=20 > > I do not see the word "tab" in there. But maybe it is time to add this = word > > to this chapter. As in "Do NOT use tabs." >=20 > If the word "tab" gets added it should be in the form "leading sets of > 8 spaces on a line should be replaced by a single tab" or something, in > fact I'm sure I remember reading that *was* the rule for documentation > at one point, though it certainly doesn't say that in the FDP primer. > Perhaps Nik can comment since he's ultimately in charge. That's correct. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrKB9wACgkQk6gHZCw343XBygCePt72P9HCXo3RU24MkrFqWeB+ 4hMAn0pHUsT6TPdXR5KsilwYh4bL4cB2 =k3Tg -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --fdj2RfSjLxBAspz7-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 3 18: 7: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C99037B756; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:06:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from spike.unixfreak.org (spike [63.198.170.139]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD55A3E28; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:06:53 -0700 (PDT) To: John Baldwin Cc: doc@freebsd.org, Jim Mock , obrien@FreeBSD.org, nik@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Use tabs in docs? (was: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq book.sgml) In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.org on "Tue, 03 Apr 2001 09:22:30 -0700 (PDT)" Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 18:06:53 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010404010653.BD55A3E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [ Choosing random message to reply to. ] So it seems everyone agrees that tabs are the way to go. Below is a proposed patch to the FDP primer to make this clear once and for all. Comments? Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org Index: chapter.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /st/src/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/fdp-primer/writing-style/chapter.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.9 diff -u -r1.9 chapter.sgml --- chapter.sgml 2000/08/08 23:39:14 1.9 +++ chapter.sgml 2001/04/04 00:58:01 @@ -172,7 +172,10 @@ which might contain this one. Every start tag increases the indentation level by 2 spaces, and - every end tag decreases the indentation level by 2 spaces. Content + every end tag decreases the indentation level by 2 spaces. Replace + as many leading spaces with tabs as appropriate. Do not use + spaces in front of tabs, and do not add extraneous whitespace at the + end of a line. Content within elements should be indented by two spaces if the content runs over more than one line. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 3 18:10: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC24F37B726 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f341A2a74877; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:10:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:10:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104040110.f341A2a74877@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/26293: Just add detail on the tutorial Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/26293; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: Brian Somers Cc: jrcharron@gen-int.com, freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26293: Just add detail on the tutorial Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 18:02:19 -0700 Brian Somers writes: > > jrcharron@gen-int.com writes: > > > [ commands must be indented in ppp.conf ] > > > > Brain, can you confirm that this is indeed the intended behavior, and > > not a bug? If that's the case, I'll update the docs to mention this > > (unless you want to do it). > > Yes, all lines that are not labels should be indented by at least one > space or tab. This is documented, but now that I look through the > docs, it seems it's not very clear (it's surprising what you can take > for granted!!!). I think it's pretty clear where it's mentioned, but it's not mentioned in share/examples/ppp.conf.sample, or the PPP Primer, which is probably what most people read. Below are patches to those two. I'd appreciate if you'd check them to make sure they're not spreading misinformation (I don't use ppp on a daily basis). Thanks, Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org Index: ppp.conf.sample =================================================================== RCS file: /st/src/FreeBSD/src/share/examples/ppp/ppp.conf.sample,v retrieving revision 1.22 diff -u -r1.22 ppp.conf.sample --- ppp.conf.sample 2000/12/01 11:52:22 1.22 +++ ppp.conf.sample 2001/04/04 00:58:15 @@ -11,7 +11,8 @@ # This file is separated into sections. Each section is named with # a label starting in column 0 and followed directly by a ``:''. The # section continues until the next section. Blank lines and lines -# beginning with ``#'' are ignored. +# beginning with ``#'' are ignored. All commands inside sections *must* +# be indented by at least one space or tab or they will not be recognized! # # Lines beginning with "!include" will ``include'' another file. You # may want to ``!include ~/.ppp.conf'' for backwards compatibility. Index: book.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /st/src/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/ppp-primer/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -r1.6 book.sgml --- book.sgml 2001/01/17 07:22:10 1.6 +++ book.sgml 2001/04/04 00:58:29 @@ -772,6 +772,15 @@ Below is the /etc/ppp/ppp.conf file that we'll be using to provide a dial-out Internet gateway for our example LAN: + + + The full syntax for ppp.conf is described in + &man.ppp.8;. Particuarly, note that any line that isn't a label that + ends with a colon (e.g., default:, + interactive:) or a comment must + be indented! + + ################################################################ # PPP Configuration File ('/etc/ppp/ppp.conf') To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 3 18:20: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6960037B722 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:20:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f341K4R75749; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:20:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104040120.f341K4R75749@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/26286: format string warnings in man pages. Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/26286; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: Bengt Richter Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26286: format string warnings in man pages. Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 18:15:57 -0700 Bengt Richter writes: > (I am implicitly suggesting that security risk documentation > be accumulated in a single place for reference and browsing. > This would serve several goals at once, not least of which is > a single instance of explanatory text to update when appropriate. We already have this: http://www.FreeBSD.org/security/#spg In a perfect world, most security bugs being found right now wouldn't exist because all programmers would read that, and all the sites that page links to, and know that passing the wrong data to the wrong format specifier is a recipe for [security] disaster; unfortunately, we don't live in a perfect world. Some programmers don't even bother reading the man pages to look for security warnings, and many more didn't read that page. The best thing we can do is stick this information in their face. Sticking outdated, wrong, or incomplete information in their face doesn't make the problem better, however. That was my original concern; if the information mentioned in each man page is incomplete (and the patch submitted was), it may lead some to think that by reading that they know enough, and not bother to investigate further. That said, I'd like to make it clear that I'm not opposed to the patch in general. I'm just concerned that keeping it up to date will be a pretty big problem, and thus it may end up doing more harm than good. Regards, Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 3 18:20:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6CA437B71D for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f341K2t75743; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:20:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:20:02 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104040120.f341K2t75743@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Brian Somers Subject: Re: docs/26293: Just add detail on the tutorial Reply-To: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/26293; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Brian Somers To: Dima Dorfman Cc: Brian Somers , jrcharron@gen-int.com, freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org, brian@Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: docs/26293: Just add detail on the tutorial Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 02:19:20 +0100 Hi, Yes, these changes look good. The only caveat I'd mention is that the ``!include'' can appear without indents inside a section, but I think that's reasonably clear anyway.... Cheers. > Brian Somers writes: > > > jrcharron@gen-int.com writes: > > > > [ commands must be indented in ppp.conf ] > > > > > > Brain, can you confirm that this is indeed the intended behavior, and > > > not a bug? If that's the case, I'll update the docs to mention this > > > (unless you want to do it). > > > > Yes, all lines that are not labels should be indented by at least one > > space or tab. This is documented, but now that I look through the > > docs, it seems it's not very clear (it's surprising what you can take > > for granted!!!). > > I think it's pretty clear where it's mentioned, but it's not mentioned > in share/examples/ppp.conf.sample, or the PPP Primer, which is > probably what most people read. Below are patches to those two. I'd > appreciate if you'd check them to make sure they're not spreading > misinformation (I don't use ppp on a daily basis). > > Thanks, > > Dima Dorfman > dima@unixfreak.org > > > Index: ppp.conf.sample > =================================================================== > RCS file: /st/src/FreeBSD/src/share/examples/ppp/ppp.conf.sample,v > retrieving revision 1.22 > diff -u -r1.22 ppp.conf.sample > --- ppp.conf.sample 2000/12/01 11:52:22 1.22 > +++ ppp.conf.sample 2001/04/04 00:58:15 > @@ -11,7 +11,8 @@ > # This file is separated into sections. Each section is named with > # a label starting in column 0 and followed directly by a ``:''. The > # section continues until the next section. Blank lines and lines > -# beginning with ``#'' are ignored. > +# beginning with ``#'' are ignored. All commands inside sections *must* > +# be indented by at least one space or tab or they will not be recognized! > # > # Lines beginning with "!include" will ``include'' another file. You > # may want to ``!include ~/.ppp.conf'' for backwards compatibility. > > Index: book.sgml > =================================================================== > RCS file: /st/src/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/ppp-primer/book.sgml,v > retrieving revision 1.6 > diff -u -r1.6 book.sgml > --- book.sgml 2001/01/17 07:22:10 1.6 > +++ book.sgml 2001/04/04 00:58:29 > @@ -772,6 +772,15 @@ > > Below is the /etc/ppp/ppp.conf file that we'll be using to provide a > dial-out Internet gateway for our example LAN: > + > + > + The full syntax for ppp.conf is described in > + &man.ppp.8;. Particuarly, note that any line that isn't a label that > + ends with a colon (e.g., default:, > + interactive:) or a comment must > + be indented! > + > + > > ################################################################ > # PPP Configuration File ('/etc/ppp/ppp.conf') > -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 3 18:20:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0C2337B725 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:20:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f341K5a75755; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:20:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:20:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104040120.f341K5a75755@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/26293: Just add detail on the tutorial Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/26293; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: Brian Somers Cc: jrcharron@gen-int.com, freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26293: Just add detail on the tutorial Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 18:19:03 -0700 Brian Somers writes: > Hi, > > Yes, these changes look good. The only caveat I'd mention is that > the ``!include'' can appear without indents inside a section, but I > think that's reasonably clear anyway.... Can it appear *with* indents, though? I don't want to screw people over trying to use that. If it can appear either way, then it's probably not worth mentioning it (bloat). If it must appear without indents, a small notice somewhere may be in order so we people don't pull their hair out because of that.. Thanks, Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org > > Cheers. > > > Brian Somers writes: > > > > jrcharron@gen-int.com writes: > > > > > [ commands must be indented in ppp.conf ] > > > > > > > > Brain, can you confirm that this is indeed the intended behavior, and > > > > not a bug? If that's the case, I'll update the docs to mention this > > > > (unless you want to do it). > > > > > > Yes, all lines that are not labels should be indented by at least one > > > space or tab. This is documented, but now that I look through the > > > docs, it seems it's not very clear (it's surprising what you can take > > > for granted!!!). > > > > I think it's pretty clear where it's mentioned, but it's not mentioned > > in share/examples/ppp.conf.sample, or the PPP Primer, which is > > probably what most people read. Below are patches to those two. I'd > > appreciate if you'd check them to make sure they're not spreading > > misinformation (I don't use ppp on a daily basis). > > > > Thanks, > > > > Dima Dorfman > > dima@unixfreak.org > > > > > > Index: ppp.conf.sample > > =================================================================== > > RCS file: /st/src/FreeBSD/src/share/examples/ppp/ppp.conf.sample,v > > retrieving revision 1.22 > > diff -u -r1.22 ppp.conf.sample > > --- ppp.conf.sample 2000/12/01 11:52:22 1.22 > > +++ ppp.conf.sample 2001/04/04 00:58:15 > > @@ -11,7 +11,8 @@ > > # This file is separated into sections. Each section is named with > > # a label starting in column 0 and followed directly by a ``:''. The > > # section continues until the next section. Blank lines and lines > > -# beginning with ``#'' are ignored. > > +# beginning with ``#'' are ignored. All commands inside sections *must* > > +# be indented by at least one space or tab or they will not be recognized! > > # > > # Lines beginning with "!include" will ``include'' another file. You > > # may want to ``!include ~/.ppp.conf'' for backwards compatibility. > > > > Index: book.sgml > > =================================================================== > > RCS file: /st/src/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/ppp-primer/book.sgml,v > > retrieving revision 1.6 > > diff -u -r1.6 book.sgml > > --- book.sgml 2001/01/17 07:22:10 1.6 > > +++ book.sgml 2001/04/04 00:58:29 > > @@ -772,6 +772,15 @@ > > > > Below is the /etc/ppp/ppp.conf file that we'll be using to provide a > > dial-out Internet gateway for our example LAN: > > + > > + > > + The full syntax for ppp.conf is described in > > + &man.ppp.8;. Particuarly, note that any line that isn't a label that > > + ends with a colon (e.g., default:, > > + interactive:) or a comment must > > > + be indented! > > + > > + > > > > ################################################################ > > # PPP Configuration File ('/etc/ppp/ppp.conf') > > > > -- > Brian > > Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 3 18:25:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 473F537B71C; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:25:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from spike.unixfreak.org (spike [63.198.170.139]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11C423E09; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:25:54 -0700 (PDT) To: doc@freebsd.org Cc: nik@freebsd.org Subject: Proper way to make relative links to other docs Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 18:25:53 -0700 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010404012554.11C423E09@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi -doc, What's the proper way to link from one document to another? The FAQ and Handbook generally refer to each other using "../". This works both ways, and for all kinds of directory structures/layouts. What's the correct way to link from, say, the PPP primer to the Handbook, though? With the "/docs/en/books/whatever" layout, "../" still works; that layout doesn't seem to be used, though (it's still on www.freebsd.org, but the current Makefile in www/en doesn't update it). It doesn't work for the case where the ppp-primer is tutorials/ppp, though; using "../../" seems evil, since that will break for just about any other layout. Suggestions? Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 3 18:30: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF52337B718 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:30:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f341U3a76666; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:30:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:30:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104040130.f341U3a76666@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Brian Somers Subject: Re: docs/26293: Just add detail on the tutorial Reply-To: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/26293; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Brian Somers To: Dima Dorfman Cc: Brian Somers , jrcharron@gen-int.com, freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org, brian@Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: docs/26293: Just add detail on the tutorial Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 02:28:12 +0100 > Brian Somers writes: > > Hi, > > > > Yes, these changes look good. The only caveat I'd mention is that > > the ``!include'' can appear without indents inside a section, but I > > think that's reasonably clear anyway.... > > Can it appear *with* indents, though? I don't want to screw people > over trying to use that. If it can appear either way, then it's > probably not worth mentioning it (bloat). If it must appear without > indents, a small notice somewhere may be in order so we people don't > pull their hair out because of that.. !include isn't allowed with indents :-/ > Thanks, > > Dima Dorfman > dima@unixfreak.org -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 3 18:40:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99BE037B719 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:40:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f341e3w77414; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:40:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 18:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104040140.f341e3w77414@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/26293: Just add detail on the tutorial Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/26293; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: Brian Somers Cc: jrcharron@gen-int.com, freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26293: Just add detail on the tutorial Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 18:38:24 -0700 Brian Somers writes: > > Can [!include] appear *with* indents, though? I don't want to screw people > > over trying to use that. If it can appear either way, then it's > > probably not worth mentioning it (bloat). If it must appear without > > indents, a small notice somewhere may be in order so we people don't > > pull their hair out because of that.. > > !include isn't allowed with indents :-/ Okay. Here's an updated patch. I've tried to make them as unintrusive as possible, but even if it is a little confusing it'll at least make the person pay attention to indentation (and give them something to read/research if they can't figure out why it doesn't work). Regards, Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org Index: ppp.conf.sample =================================================================== RCS file: /st/src/FreeBSD/src/share/examples/ppp/ppp.conf.sample,v retrieving revision 1.22 diff -u -r1.22 ppp.conf.sample --- ppp.conf.sample 2000/12/01 11:52:22 1.22 +++ ppp.conf.sample 2001/04/04 01:35:18 @@ -11,7 +11,9 @@ # This file is separated into sections. Each section is named with # a label starting in column 0 and followed directly by a ``:''. The # section continues until the next section. Blank lines and lines -# beginning with ``#'' are ignored. +# beginning with ``#'' are ignored. All commands inside sections that do +# not begin with ``!'' (e.g., ``!include'') *must* be indented by at least +# one space or tab or they will not be recognized! # # Lines beginning with "!include" will ``include'' another file. You # may want to ``!include ~/.ppp.conf'' for backwards compatibility. Index: book.sgml =================================================================== RCS file: /st/src/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/ppp-primer/book.sgml,v retrieving revision 1.6 diff -u -r1.6 book.sgml --- book.sgml 2001/01/17 07:22:10 1.6 +++ book.sgml 2001/04/04 01:35:30 @@ -772,6 +772,16 @@ Below is the /etc/ppp/ppp.conf file that we'll be using to provide a dial-out Internet gateway for our example LAN: + + + The full syntax for ppp.conf is described in + &man.ppp.8;. Particuarly, note that any line that isn't a label that + ends with a colon (e.g., default:, + interactive:), a command that begins with + ! (e.g., !include), or a comment + must be indented! + + ################################################################ # PPP Configuration File ('/etc/ppp/ppp.conf') To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Tue Apr 3 19:14: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from laxmls03.socal.rr.com (laxmls03.socal.rr.com [24.30.163.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF2037B71B for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 19:14:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from perm@socal.rr.com) Received: from perm (sc-24-24-246-40.socal.rr.com [24.24.246.40]) by laxmls03.socal.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with SMTP id f342E3920095 for ; Tue, 3 Apr 2001 19:14:04 -0700 (PDT) From: "Zac Herrin" To: Subject: Server Date: Tue, 3 Apr 2001 19:16:28 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello i am Zac Herrin, i was wondering if you guys would like to sponsor us. 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Zac To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 4 0:20: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3729A37B719 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:20:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f347K3v31833; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:20:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 00:20:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104040720.f347K3v31833@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Brian Somers Subject: Re: docs/26293: Just add detail on the tutorial Reply-To: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/26293; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Brian Somers To: Dima Dorfman Cc: Brian Somers , jrcharron@gen-int.com, freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org, brian@Awfulhak.org Subject: Re: docs/26293: Just add detail on the tutorial Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 08:18:56 +0100 Yep - this looks perfect. > Brian Somers writes: > > > Can [!include] appear *with* indents, though? I don't want to screw people > > > over trying to use that. If it can appear either way, then it's > > > probably not worth mentioning it (bloat). If it must appear without > > > indents, a small notice somewhere may be in order so we people don't > > > pull their hair out because of that.. > > > > !include isn't allowed with indents :-/ > > Okay. Here's an updated patch. I've tried to make them as > unintrusive as possible, but even if it is a little confusing it'll at > least make the person pay attention to indentation (and give them > something to read/research if they can't figure out why it doesn't > work). > > Regards, > > Dima Dorfman > dima@unixfreak.org > > > Index: ppp.conf.sample > =================================================================== > RCS file: /st/src/FreeBSD/src/share/examples/ppp/ppp.conf.sample,v > retrieving revision 1.22 > diff -u -r1.22 ppp.conf.sample > --- ppp.conf.sample 2000/12/01 11:52:22 1.22 > +++ ppp.conf.sample 2001/04/04 01:35:18 > @@ -11,7 +11,9 @@ > # This file is separated into sections. Each section is named with > # a label starting in column 0 and followed directly by a ``:''. The > # section continues until the next section. Blank lines and lines > -# beginning with ``#'' are ignored. > +# beginning with ``#'' are ignored. All commands inside sections that do > +# not begin with ``!'' (e.g., ``!include'') *must* be indented by at least > +# one space or tab or they will not be recognized! > # > # Lines beginning with "!include" will ``include'' another file. You > # may want to ``!include ~/.ppp.conf'' for backwards compatibility. > > Index: book.sgml > =================================================================== > RCS file: /st/src/FreeBSD/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/ppp-primer/book.sgml,v > retrieving revision 1.6 > diff -u -r1.6 book.sgml > --- book.sgml 2001/01/17 07:22:10 1.6 > +++ book.sgml 2001/04/04 01:35:30 > @@ -772,6 +772,16 @@ > > Below is the /etc/ppp/ppp.conf file that we'll be using to provide a > dial-out Internet gateway for our example LAN: > + > + > + The full syntax for ppp.conf is described in > + &man.ppp.8;. Particuarly, note that any line that isn't a label that > + ends with a colon (e.g., default:, > + interactive:), a command that begins with > + ! (e.g., !include), or a comment > + must be indented! > + > + > > ################################################################ > # PPP Configuration File ('/etc/ppp/ppp.conf') Cheers. -- Brian Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! 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Ñòýíôîðäñêèé èññëåäîâàòåëüñêèé èíñòèòóò è æóðíàë Wall Street çàÿâèëè, ÷òî 50-65% âñåõ òîâàðîâ è óñëóã äî êîíöà òûñÿ÷åëåòèÿ áóäóò ïðîäàâàòüñÿ ïîñðåäñòâîì multi-level ìåòîäîâ. Ýòî ìíîãî ìèëëèàðäíàÿ äîëëàðîâàÿ èíäóñòðèÿ, è òîëüêî èç 500,000 ìèëëèîíåðîâ â ÑØÀ, öåëûõ 20% (100.000 ÷åëîâåê) ñäåëàëè ñâîå ñîñòîÿíèå çà ïîñëåäíèå ïàðó ëåò áëàãîäàðÿ MLM. À åùå, ñòàòèñòèêà ïîêàçûâàåò, ÷òî 45 ÷åëîâåê êàæäûé äåíü ñòàíîâÿòñÿ ìèëëèîíåðàìè áëàãîäàðÿ Multi-Level-Marketing. Âîçìîæíî, ÷òî âû óæå ñëûøàëè èñòîðèþ, êàê Äîíàëüä Òðàìï ëåòîì íàâåñòèë øîó Äåâèäà Ëåòòåðìàíà. Äåâèä ñïðîñèë åãî, ÷òîáû îí äåëàë åñëè áû ïîòåðÿë âñå ñâîå ñîñòîÿíèå è âûíóæäåí áûë íà÷àòü âñå ñ íà÷àëà. Äîíàëüä áåç êîëåáàíèÿ îòâåòèë, ÷òî íàøåë áû õîðîøóþ MLM ôèðìó è íà÷àë ðàáîòàòü. Ïóáëèêà íà÷àëà ñâèñòåòü âûðàæàÿ íåñîãëàñèå. Äîíàëüä ïîñìîòðåë íà çðèòåëüíûé çàë è ñåðüåçíî ïðîèçíåñ: "Áëàãîäàðÿ ýòîìó ÿ çäåñü íàâåðõó, à âû òàì, âíèçó!" Ñ ñåòåâûì ìàðêåòèíãîì âû èìååòå äâà èñòî÷íèêà ïðèáûëè: Ïðÿìàÿ ïðèáûëü ñ ïðîäàæè, êîòîðóþ ïðîâîäèòå Âû ñàìè è ïðèáûëü ñ îáîðîòà ëþäåé, êîòîðûõ ïðèâåäåòå â áèçíåñ. Áåñêîíå÷íàÿ ïðèáûëü ÿâëÿåòñÿ òàéíîé áîãàòñòâà. Ýòî çíà÷èò îäèí ðàç èíâåñòèðîâàòü âðåìÿ èëè äåíüãè à ïîòîì ïîëó÷àòü äåíüãè ñíîâà è ñíîâà.  ñåòåâîì ìàðêåòèíãå ýòî òàêæå îçíà÷àåò ïîëó÷àòü äåíüãè çà ðàáîòó äðóãèõ. Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, ïðî÷èòàâ ýòî ïèñüìî âïåðâûå, ÿ ïðàêòè÷åñêè ïðîïóñòèë òàêóþ âîçìîæíîñòü ñêâîçü ïàëüöû, è äàæå íå ñòàë ÷èòàòü äàëüøå, íî âñêîðå ÿ ïåðå÷èòàë âñå çàíîâî. Çàäóìàëñÿ è ïîíÿë âñþ ñèëó ýòîãî ïðåäëîæåíèÿ. È òåïåðü ÿ áîãàò è ñâîáîäåí. ß ìîãó äóõîâíî ðàçâèâàòüñÿ, îòäûõàòü, íàäî ìíîé íåò ãíåòà íà÷àëüñòâà, ìîåé ñåìüå è ìíå íå ìåøàåò óíèçèòåëüíàÿ áåäíîñòü è áîðüáà çà êóñîê õëåáà, ìåøàÿ ÷åëîâå÷åñêîé æèçíè... ************************************************************ Íàïðèìåð, âîò ÷òî ãîâîðèò ìèñòåð Äæåðè Ïðîêòîð, àìåðèêàíñêèé ìèëëèîíåð. Äâà ãîäà íàçàä áûëà óïðàçäíåíà ìîÿ äîëæíîñòü â ôèðìå, â êîòîðîé ÿ ðàáîòàë ïîñëåäíèõ ïÿòíàäöàòü ëåò. Ïîñëå íåñêîëüêèõ íåóñïåøíûõ ñîáåñåäîâàíèé ÿ ðåøèë íà÷àòü ñâîé ñîáñòâåííûé áèçíåñ.  òå÷åíèè ïðîøëûõ ëåò ÿ ïðîøåë ìíîãî ôèíàíñîâûõ çàòðóäíåíèé. ß áûë äîëæåí ñâîåé ñåìüå, äðóçüÿì è êðåäèòîðàì áîëåå 35.000,- USD. ß áûë âûíóæäåí çàëîæèòü ñâîé äîì, ÷òîáû ïðîêîðìèòü ñâîþ ñåìüþ è óäåðæàòü ñâîé áèçíåñ.  ÝÒÎÒ ÌÎÌÅÍÒ ïðîèçîøëî íå÷òî âûäàþùååñÿ â ìîåé æèçíè, è ÿ ïèøó äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû ïîäåëèòüñÿ îá ýòîì çíàìåíàòåëüíîì ñîáûòèè ñ Âàìè.  ñåðåäèíå äåêàáðÿ 1998 ÿ ïîëó÷èë e-mail ñ ýòîé ïðîãðàììîé. Ïåðåä ýòèì ÿ øåñòü ìåñÿöåâ èñêàë ðàçíûå òîðãîâûå âîçìîæíîñòè. Âñå ïðîãðàììû, êîòîðûå ÿ ïîëó÷èë íå áûëè ýôôåêòèâíûìè (ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå íà ìîé âçãëÿä). Îíè áûëè èëè ñëèøêîì ñëîæíûìè èëè òðåáîâàëè áîëüøèõ èíâåñòèöèé, à ðèñêîâàòü ñâîèì âêëàäîì, ÷òîáû óçíàòü äåéñòâóåò ýòî èëè íåò, ÿ íå õîòåë. Êàê ÿ óæå ãîâîðèë, â äåêàáðå 1998 ÿ ïîëó÷èë ýòó ïðîãðàììó. ß íå õîòåë åå ïîëó÷àòü, ïðîñòî, ïîëó÷èë òàê æå êàê è Âû. Ñïàñèáî Áîãó çà ýòî! ß ïðî÷èòàë ïðîãðàììó íåñêîëüêî ðàç, ïîòîìó ÷òî íå ìîã â íåå ïîâåðèòü, è ïðèíÿëñÿ çà ðàáîòó. ß ìîã èíâåñòèðîâàòü òîëüêî ñòîëüêî äåíåã, ñêîëüêî â äàííûé ìîìåíò áûëî âîçìîæíî. Òàê æå êàê è Âû ÿ áûë ñêåïòè÷åí è íåìíîãî áîÿëñÿ î ëåãàëüíîñòè äàííîé ïðîãðàììû. Ïîñëå èñêëþ÷åíèÿ òîãî, ÷òî ïðîãðàììà ìîæåò áûòü íåëåãàëüíîé, ÿ ñêàçàë ñåáå, ïî÷åìó áû ìíå ýòî íå ïîïðîáîâàòü. Ïîòîì ÿ ïîñëàë îêîëî 10.000 e-mail. Ñòîèëî ìíå ýòî îêîëî 15,- USD çà ìîå âðåìÿ on-line. Ïðåâîñõîäíîå ñâîéñòâî e-mail ñîñòîèò â òîì, ÷òî íå íàäî íè÷åãî ïå÷àòàòü, à íóæíî òîëüêî ïîñûëàòü. Òàê êàê âñå çàêàçû îôîðìëÿþòñÿ ÷åðåç e-mail, òî ìîåé èíâåñòèöèåé áûëî òîëüêî ìîå âðåìÿ, êîòîðîå ÿ ïðîâåë ó êîìïüþòåðà. Ãîâîðþ Âàì êàê ýòî áûëî, íàäåþñü, ÷òî Âàñ ýòî íå ðàçî÷àðóåò, òàê êàê ÿ ïîîáåùàë ñåáå, ÷òî íèêîãî íå îáìàíó, ÷åãî áû ìíå ýòî íå ñòîèëî. Ìåíüøå ÷åì ÷åðåç íåäåëþ ÿ íà÷àë ïîëó÷àòü çàêàçû íà REPORT #1. Äî 13 ÿíâàðÿ 1999 ÿ ïîëó÷èë 26 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #1. Âàøåé öåëüþ ÿâëÿåòñÿ ïîëó÷èòü ìèíèìàëüíî 20 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #1  ÒÅ×ÅÍÈÈ ÄÂÓÕ ÍÅÄÅËÜ. ÅÑËÈ ÂÛ ÈÕ ÍÅ ÏÎËÓ×ÈÒÅ, ÏÎØËÅÒÅ ÁÎËÜØÅ ÄÀÍÍÛÕ ÏÐÎÃÐÀÌÌ, ÄËß ÒÎÃÎ ×ÒÎÁÛ ÈÕ ÏÎËÓ×ÈÒÜ! Ìîé øàã ê ïîëó÷åíèþ 50.000,- USD çà 90 äíåé áûë ñäåëàí. Äî 30 ÿíâàðÿ 1999 ÿ ïîëó÷èë 196 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #2. Âàøåé öåëüþ ÿâëÿåòñÿ ïîëó÷èòü ìèíèìàëüíî 100 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #2 â òå÷åíèè äâóõ íåäåëü. Åñëè ýòî íå ïîëó÷èòñÿ, òàê ðàññûëàéòå áîëüøå ýòèõ ïðîãðàìì. Êàê òîëüêî äîñòèãíèòå 100 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #2 òî âñå îñòàëüíîå áóäåò â ïîðÿäêå è Âû òî÷íî ïîëó÷èòå ñâîè 50.000,- USD. Ó ìåíÿ áûëî 196 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #2, òî åñòü íà 96 áîëüøå ÷åì ìíå áûëî íóæíî. Ïîýòîìó ÿ ñåë è îòäûõàë. Äî 1 ìàðòà 1999 çà ñâîè 10.000 îòîñëàíûõ e-mail ÿ ïîëó÷èë 58.000,- USD è êàæäûé äåíü ïðèõîäèëè íîâûå äåíüãè. ß çàïëàòèë ñâîè äîëãè è êóïèë ñåáå ìàøèíó. Ïîæàëóéñòà, íàéäèòå âðåìÿ è âíèìàòåëüíî ïðî÷èòàéòå ýòó ïðîãðàììó. ÝÒÎ ÍÀÂÑÅÃÄÀ ÈÇÌÅÍÈÒ ÂÀØÓ ÆÈÇÍÜ!!! Ïîìíèòå, ÷òî ýòî íå çàðàáîòàåò, ïîêà âû ýòî íå ïîïðîáóåòå! Ýòà ïðîãðàììà äåéñòâóåò, íî Âû äîëæíû òî÷íî ïðèäåðæèâàòüñÿ ðåêîìåíäàöèé!! Ñïåöèàëüíîå ïðàâèëî - íå ñòàðàéòåñü âïèñûâàòü Âàøå èìÿ òàì, ãäå ýòî íå íóæíî. Ýòî íå áóäåò äåéñòâîâàòü, à Âû íåäîïîëó÷èòå ìíîãî äåíåã!! Áîëåå òîãî, ïðè èçìåíåíèè äàííûõ ïðîäàâöîâ èíà÷å, ÷åì ýòî óêàçàíî â èíñòðóêöèè íèæå, äàííûé âèä ïðåäïðèíèìàòåëüñòâà ñòàíîâèòñÿ íåëåãàëüíûì. Ñíîâà ïîâòîðÿþ, ÷òî â ñëó÷àå ñîáëþäåíèÿ âñåõ íèæåóêàçàííûõ ðåêîìåíäàöèé, ðå÷ü èäåò î ëåãàëüíîì ïðåäïðèíèìàòåëüñòâå!! Äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû âû äîñòèãëè ñâîåé öåëè íåîáõîäèìî ïîëó÷èòü 20 è áîëüøå çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #1 è 100 è áîëüøå íà REPORT #2.  ýòîì ñëó÷àå çàðàáîòàåòå 50.000,- USD (èëè áîëüøå) çà 90 äíåé! ß - ÐÅÀËÜÍÎÅ ÄÎÊÀÇÀÒÅËÜÑÒÂÎ ÒÎÃÎ, ×ÒÎ ÝÒÎ ÍÀ ÑÀÌÎÌ ÄÅËÅ ÄÅÉÑÒÂÓÅÒ!!! Åñëè âû ðåøèëèñü, ÷òî â ýòîé ïðîãðàììå ó÷àñòâîâàòü íå áóäåòå, òàê ìíå âàñ èñêðåííå æàëü. Òàê êàê ýòî ðåàëüíàÿ ïðåâîñõîäíàÿ âîçìîæíîñòü ñ ìèíèìàëüíûì ðèñêîì è èíâåñòèöèÿìè! Åñëè õîòèòå ó÷àñòâîâàòü, ïðèäåðæèâàéòåñü äàííûõ ðåêîìåíäàöèé è áóäåòå íà äîðîãå ê ôèíàíñîâîé íåçàâèñèìîñòè. Åñëè çàíèìàåòåñü ïðåäïðèíèìàòåëüñòâîì èëè õîòèòå íà÷àòü ñâîé ñîáñòâåííûé áèçíåñ, òàê ñ÷èòàéòå ýòî çà õîðîøóþ âîçìîæíîñòü. ß ÝÒÎ ÑÄÅËÀË !!! Ñ óâàæåíèåì Äæåðè Ïðîêòîð.       ÝÒÎ ÏÎÐÀÇÈÒÅËÜÍÎ!!! (ËÈ×ÍÀß ÇÀÌÅÒÊÀ ÎÒ ÎÑÍÎÂÀÒÅËß ÝÒÎÉ ÏÐÎÃÐÀÌÌÛ) ************************************************************ Ïåðåä òåì êàê ïðî÷èòàåòå ýòó ïðîãðàììó, âû äîëæíû ïîíÿòü, ÷òî ýòà ëåãàëüíàÿ ïðîãðàììà íå ìîãëà áûëà áûòü ñîçäàíà ëþáèòåëåì. Ïîçâîëüòå ìíå íåìíîãî ðàññêàçàòü î ñåáå. Öåëûõ 10 ëåò ó ìåíÿ áûë ñîáñòâåííûé ðàçâèâàþùèéñÿ áèçíåñ.  1979 ãîäó ìîé áèçíåñ íà÷àë ðóøèòüñÿ. ß äåëàë âñå, ÷òî ìíå äî ýòîãî ïðèíîñèëî óñïåõ, íî áåçóñïåøíî. Íàêîíåö ÿ ïîíÿë, ÷òî ýòî íå èç-çà ìåíÿ, à èç-çà ýêîíîìèêè, êîòîðàÿ íàñ ñîïðîâîæäàëà ñ 1945 ãîäà. Äóìàþ íå íóæíî Âàì îáúÿñíÿòü, êàê ýòî ïîâëèÿëî íà áåçðàáîòèöó â ñòðàíå, ìíîãèå èç Âàñ ýòî çíàþò ïî ñîáñòâåííîìó îïûòó. Ïðèøëî ìíîãî ïàäåíèé è áàíêðîòîâ. Ñðåäíèé êëàññ èñ÷åçàë, òå, êîòîðûå çíàëè ÷òî äåëàþò, ìóäðî èíâåñòèðîâàëè è ïðîäâèíóëèñü âûøå, à òå êòî íå çíàë, ïàäàëè âñå íèæå, â áåäíîòó. Êàê ãîâîðèò èçâåñòíàÿ ïîãîâîðêà: "ÁÎÃÀÒÛÅ ÁÎÃÀÒÅÞÒ, À ÁÅÄÍÛÅ ÁÅÄÍÅÞÒ". Òðàäèöèîííûå ñïîñîáû çàðàáîòêà äåíåã íèêîãäà íå ïîçâîëÿò Âàì âûñîêî ïîäíÿòüñÿ, à èíôëÿöèÿ òîëüêî ýòîìó ïîìîæåò. Ñåé÷àñ âû ïîëó÷èëè ïèñüìî, êîòîðîå ìîæåò äàòü Âàì ôèíàíñîâóþ íåçàâèñèìîñòü íà âñþ Âàøó æèçíü è "ÁÅÇ ÐÈÑÊÀ" è ñ "ÌÈÍÈÌÀËÜÍÛÌÈ ÓÑÈËÈßÌÈ".  ïîñëåäóþùèõ ìåñÿöàõ Âû ñìîæåòå çàðàáîòàòü äåíåã áîëüøå, ÷åì ìîæåòå ñåáå ïðåäñòàâèòü. Íóæíî ïîä÷åðêíóòü, ÷òî ÿ ñ ýòèõ äåíåã íå óâèæó íè öåíòà. Êàê è íèêòî èç ëþäåé, êîòîðûå òåñòèðîâàëè äàííóþ ïðîãðàììó. ß óæå çàðàáîòàë áîëåå 4.000.000,- USD!!! Ïåðåñòàë èñïîëüçîâàòü ýòó ïðîãðàììó ïîñëå òîãî, êàê ïîñëàë 16.000 ïðîãðàìì. Ñåé÷àñ ó ìåíÿ íåñêîëüêî ôèðì, êîòîðûå èçîáðåòàþò ïîäîáíûå ïðîãðàììû. Âûïîëíÿéòå ïðîãðàììó ÒÎ×ÍÎ ÏÎ ÈÍÑÒÐÓÊÖÈÈ!! Íå èçìåíÿéòå åå íèêàêèì îáðàçîì!! Îíà äåéñòâóåò ìàêñèìàëüíî ýôôåêòèâíî èìåííî â ýòîì âèäå. Íå çàáóäüòå ïîñëàòü êîïèþ ýòîé ïðîãðàììû êàæäîìó, êîãî òîëüêî âñïîìíèòå! Îäèí ÷åëîâåê, êîòîðîìó âû ýòî ïîøëåòå ìîæåò ïîñëàòü è 50.000 êîïèé ... à Âàøå èìÿ áóäåò íà êàæäîé èç íèõ!!! Ïîìíèòå, ÷òî ÷åì áîëüøå ïðîãðàìì âû ïîøëåòå, òåì áîëüøå ïîòåíöèàëüíûõ çàêàç÷èêîâ ïðèîáðåòåòå! Òàê ÷òî, äðóçüÿ, ÿ ïðåäîñòàâëÿþ Âàì âîçìîæíîñòü, èíôîðìàöèþ, ìàòåðèàë äëÿ òîãî ÷òîáû âû ïîëó÷èëè ôèíàíñîâóþ íåçàâèñèìîñòü. ÒÅÏÅÐÜ ÝÒÎ ÇÀÂÈÑÈÒ ÒÎËÜÊÎ ÎÒ ÂÀÑ! "ÏÎÄÓÌÀÉÒÅ ÎÁ ÝÒÎÌ" ïåðåä òåì êàê óäàëèòå ýòîò mail, êàê ÷óòü íå ñäåëàë ÿ. Îòâåäèòå ñåáå íåìíîãî âðåìåíè, ïðî÷òèòå è ïî-íàñòîÿùåìó ïîäóìàéòå íàä ýòèì. Âîçüìèòå ðó÷êó è ïîñ÷èòàéòå, ÷òî ìîæåò èç ýòîãî ïîëó÷èòüñÿ, åñëè Âû ýòî ïîïðîáóåòå. Âîçüìèòå ñàìûé ïëîõîé âàðèàíò, íî è â ýòîì ñëó÷àå ó âàñ áóäåò ìíîãî äåíåã.  ñàìîì õóäøåì ñëó÷àå ïîëó÷èòå ñâîþ èíâåñòèöèþ íàçàä. Âñå ñîìíåíèÿ, êîòîðûå ó âàñ åñòü, èñ÷åçíóò, êîãäà ïîëó÷èòå ñâîé ïåðâûé çàêàç. ÝÒÎ ÄÅÉÑÒÂÓÅÒ!!!!! Jody Jacobs, Richmond,VA. À ÒÅÏÅÐÜ, ÂÎÒ ÝÒÀ ÏÅÐÂÎÑÕÎÄÍÀß ÏÐÎÃÐÀÌÌÀ, ÊÎÒÎÐÀß ÂÀÌ ÇÀÐÀÁÎÒÀÅÒ ÒÛÑß×È ÄÎËËÀÐÎÂ!!!!! ************************************************************ ÈÍÑÒÐÓÊÖÈß : Ýòîò ìåòîä çàðàáîòêà äåíåã íà ñàìîì äåëå ÄÅÉÑÒÂÓÅÒ ÍÀ 100%, ÊÎÃÄÀ ÓÃÎÄÍÎ, ÃÄÅ ÓÃÎÄÍÎ. ß óâåðåí, ÷òî Âû ñìîæåòå çàðàáîòàòü áîëåå 50.000,- USD â ïîñëåäóþùèå 90 äíåé. Ïåðåä òåì êàê ñêàçàòü "ãëóïîñòü..." ïîæàëóéñòà ïðî÷èòàéòå âíèìàòåëüíî è âíèêíèòå â ñóòü ýòîé ïðîãðàììû. Ýòî íå öåïíîå ïèñüìî, à îòëè÷íàÿ ëåãàëüíàÿ âîçìîæíîñòü çàðàáîòàòü äåíüãè.  ÷åì ñìûñë? Òàê êàê è â ëþáîé multi-level ñõåìå, òîðãîâëÿ ñòðîèòñÿ íà ïðèâëå÷åíèè íîâûõ ïàðòíåðîâ è ïðîäàæå ñâîèõ òîâàðîâ. ÇÀÊÀÇÛ Ê ÂÀÌ ÏÐÈÕÎÄßÒ È ÂÛÏÎËÍßÞÒÑß ÏÎ E-MAIL, ïîýòîìó íå âîçíèêàåò ëè÷íîãî êîíòàêòà. Äåëàåòñÿ âñå äîìà èëè â ó÷ðåæäåíèè. Ýòî ñàìàÿ áîëüøàÿ multi-level âîçìîæíîñòü íà ñâåòå!!!!! È ÝÒÎ ÍÅ ÏÐÅÓÂÅËÈ×ÅÍÈÅ!!   Ñóùåñòâóåò äâà îñíîâíûõ ìåòîäà äëÿ ñòðîèòåëüñòâà âàøèõ íèæíèõ óðîâíåé: Ìåòîä #1- ÏÎÑÛËÊÀ ÌÀÑÑÎÂÎÉ E-MAIL ÐÅÊËÀÌÛ Ïðåäïîëîæèì, íàïðèìåð, ÷òî Âû õîòèòå íà÷àòü ñ ìàëîãî êîëè÷åñòâà, òîëüêî äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû ïîñìîòðåòü êàê ýòî äåéñòâóåò. Äîïóñòèì, ÷òî Âû è âñå âîâëå÷åííûå Âàìè êîìïàíüîíû ïîøëåòå òîëüêî 2.000 e-mail (êàæäûé èç Âàñ). Òàêæå ïðåäïîëîæèì, ÷òî ïîëó÷èòå âñåãî 0,5% îòâåòîâ. Åñëè èñïîëüçóåòå õîðîøèé ïåðå÷åíü àäðåñîâ òî 1%. Ïîòîì ìíîãî ëþäåé ðàçîøëþò óæå ñîòíè òûñÿ÷ ýòèõ ïðîãðàìì, áëàãîäàðÿ âàøèì 2.000. Ïðîäîëæèì íàø ïðèìåð, âû ïîñëàëè 2.000 ïðîãðàìì. Èç 0,5% îòâåòîâ ýòî òîëüêî 10 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #1. Ýòèõ äåñÿòü ÷åëîâåê ïîñëàëî 20.000 ïðîãðàìì, ÷òî ïðè 0,5% - óæå 100 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #2. Êàæäûé èç ýòèõ 100 ïîñëàëè ïî 2.000 ïðîãðàìì, à Âû ïîëó÷èëè 1.000 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #3, à åñëè êàæäûé èç ýòèõ 1.000 ïîøëåò 2.000 ñâîèõ ïðîãðàìì, òàê ïðè 0,5% ïîëó÷èòå 10.000 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #4. À ýòî 10.000 õ 5 = 50.000 USD â íàëè÷íîñòè!!!!! Âàø êîíå÷íûé çàðàáîòîê â ýòîì ñëó÷àå áóäåò: 50+500+5.000+50.000 = 55.550,- USD!!!!!!! Ïîìíèòå, ÷òî ýòî ïðåäïîëîæåíèå äëÿ 1990 ÷åëîâåê. Òå, êîòîðûå íå çàõîòÿò ó÷àñòâîâàòü, ýòó âîçìîæíîñòü óäàëÿò, è íè÷åãî íå ñëó÷èòñÿ! Ïîïðîáóéòå ïîäóìàòü ìèíóòêó! À ÷òî åñëè êàæäûé ïîøëåò 100.000 ïðîãðàìì âìåñòî 2.000 ?! Âåðüòå ìíå, ÷òî ëþäè ýòî ñäåëàþò, âîçìîæíî è áîëüøå! Ìåæäó ïðî÷èì, Âàø ôèíàíñîâûé âêëàä ÿâëÿåòñÿ ìèíèìàëüíûì... Âû óæå èìååòå ïîäêëþ÷åíèå ê Èíòåðíåò, à e-mail - áåñïëàòåí! REPORT #2 Âàì ïîêàæåò ñàìûå ëó÷øèå ìåòîäû ìàññîâîé ðàññûëêè e-mail è ãäå ìîæíî íàéòè ïåðå÷åíü àäðåñîâ. ÌÅÒÎÄ #2 - ÁÅÑÏËÀÒÍÀß ÐÅÊËÀÌÀ  ÈÍÒÅÐÍÅÒÅ Ðåêëàìà â Èíòåðíåòå ÿâëÿåòñÿ íåòðåáîâàòåëüíîé è ñóùåñòâóåò òûñÿ÷à ÁÅÑÏËÀÒÍÛÕ ìåñò äëÿ ðåêëàìû. Ñêàæåì, íàïðèìåð, ÷òî âû íà÷íåòå ñêðîìíî, òîëüêî äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû óçíàòü äåéñòâóåò ëè ýòî. Âàøåé öåëüþ áû áûëî íàéòè âñåãî ëèøü 10 ÷åëîâåê íà ïåðâûé óðîâåíü òî åñòü òåõ, êòî çàêàçàë áû ó Âàñ REPORT#1 (ðàçìåùåíèåì áåñïëàòíûõ îáúÿâëåíèé â Èíòåðíåò ëåãêî íàéòè è áîëüøåå êîëè÷åñòâî çàêàçîâ). Äàëüøå ïðåäïîëîæèì, ÷òî êàæäûé èç Âàøåé îðãàíèçàöèè íàéäåò òîëüêî 10 ÷åëîâåê. Ïîñìîòðèì íà ïðèìåðå è óâèäèì, ÷òî ïðîèçîéäåò: 1-é level - âàøèõ 10 êëèåíòîâ ïî 5 USD.............................50,- USD. 2-é level - ïî 10 êëèåíòîâ îò òåõ 10-òè (5,- USD x 100) ........ 500,- USD. 3-é level - ýòî óæå 1.000 êëèåíòîâ (5,- USD x 1.000) ........5.000,- USD. 4-é level - 10.000 êëèåíòîâ (5,- USD x 10.000) ............... 50.000,- USD. Èòîãî 55.550,- USD. Ïîìíèòå, ÷òî ýòî òîëüêî ïðèìåð äëÿ 10 êëèåíòîâ. Ìíîãèå ëþäè íàéäóò ñîòíè êëèåíòîâ!!! ÏÎÄÓÌÀÉÒÅ ÎÁ ÝÒÎÌ!!! Âñå, ÷òî âû äîëæíû ñäåëàòü, çà êàæäûå $5 USD, êîòîðûå ïîëó÷èòå â ñâîé êîøåëåê - ýòî ïîñëàòü ïîêóïàòåëþ çàêàçàííûé REPORT. È ÝÒÎ ÂÑÅ!!! ÂÑÅÃÄÀ ÎÒÏÐÀÂËßÉÒÅ ÇÀÊÀÇÛ Â ÒÎÒ ÄÅÍÜ, ÊÎÃÄÀ ÎÍÈ ÏÐÈÉÄÓÒ!!! Ýòî Âàì ãàðàíòèðóåò, ÷òî e-mail, êîòîðûå áóäóò ïîñûëàòü ñ ÂÀØÈÌ èìåíåì, áóäóò áûñòðåå ðàñïðîñòðàíÿòüñÿ, ïîòîìó ÷òî îíè íå ìîãóò áûòü ïîñëàíû ïîêà REPORT's íåò ó âàøåãî çàêàç÷èêà!!! ÈÒÀÊ, ÄÎÑÒÓÏÍÛÅ REPORT's: ****** Çàêàæè ñåáå êàæäûé èç íèõ ñîãëàñíî íîìåðó è íàçâàíèþ ******   ÇÀÊÀÆÈÒÅ ÑÅÁÅ REPORT's ÑÅÉ×ÀÑ !!!   Òàáëèöà 1. REPORT's è ðåêâèçèòû ïðîäàâöîâ. ¹ Ïåðå÷åíü REPORT's R- è Z- êîøåëüêè ïðîäàâöà E-mail ïðîäàâöà 1 REPORT #1 "Ðóêîâîäñòâî ïî áåñïëàòíîé è ýôôåêòèâíîé ðåêëàìå â Èíòåðíåò" R871542342557 Z469857407500 WM_13@yahoo.com 2 REPORT #2 "Ðóêîâîäñòâî ïî ìàññîâîé ðåêëàìíîé ðàññûëêå E-Mail " R803112125203 Z460897718401 verysimplejob@yahoo.com 3 REPORT #3 "Ñåêðåòû ìíîãîóðîâíåâîãî ìàðêåòèíãà â Èíòåðíåò" R916511407235 Z601004161913 poul007@narod.ru 4 REPORT #4 "Êàê ñòàòü ìèëëèîíåðîì, èñïîëüçóÿ MLM è Èíòåðíåò" R117465742973 Z095492416150 asebo@mail.ru Ñ ëþáûì èç ïðîäàâöîâ âñåãäà ìîæíî ñâÿçàòüñÿ ÷åðåç åãî e-mail. Íî, ïîæàëóéñòà, íå çàãðóæàéòå èõ ëèøíèìè âîïðîñàìè, îíè ìîãóò áûòü î÷åíü çàíÿòû îáðàáîòêîé çàêàçîâ (îñîáåííî íà òðåòüåì è ÷åòâåðòûõ óðîâíÿõ). ÂÎÒ, ×ÒÎ ÍÓÆÍÎ ÑÄÅËÀÒÜ ÂÀÌ: 1. Ñêîïèðîâàòü ïðîãðàììó WebMoney keeper 2 è ñîçäàòü ñåáå ðóáëåâûé R-êîøåëåê. Èíñòðóêöèè ïî ðàáîòå ñ êîøåëüêîì è èíôîðìàöèÿ îá ýòîé ñèñòåìå ïëàòåæåé íà ñàéòå http://www.webmoney.ru 2. Ïîïîëíèòü ÑÂÎÉ êîøåëåê ðóáëåâûì ýêâèâàëåíòîì $20 + 3% ïî êóðñó ÖÁ, âûáðàâ ëþáîé èç äîñòóïíûõ íà http://www.webmoney.ru/rus/perevods.htm ñïîñîáîâ ïåðåâîäà. 3. Ïîñëå ïîñòóïëåíèÿ äåíåã â âàø êîøåëåê, çàêàæèòå ñåáå âñå ÷åòûðå REPORT's (èç ïåðå÷íÿ Òàáëèöû 1), ïóòåì ïåðåâîäà WebMoney èç ñâîåãî êîøåëüêà â êîøåëåê ïðîäàâöà, ñóììû $5 ÑØÀ ïî êóðñó ÖÁ, çà êàæäûé REPORT. Îáÿçàòåëüíî, óêàæèòå â ïîëå êîììåíòàðèÿ íîìåð REPORT è îáðàòíûé e-mail àäðåñ. Ïðèìåð: REPORT#1 xxxxxx@xxxx.xxx (Ïîäòâåðäèòå îïëàòó ïî e-mail) 4.  Òàáëèöå 1, óäàëèòå íîìåð êîøåëüêà èç ñòðîêè 4 è ïåðåìåñòèòå íà åãî ìåñòî íîìåð êîøåëüêà èç ñòðîêè 3. Çàòåì, ïåðåìåñòèòå íîìåð êîøåëüêà èç ñòðîêè 2 â îñâîáîäèâøååñÿ ìåñòî â ñòîðîêå 3. È, íàêîíåö, ïåðåìåñòèòå íîìåð êîøåëüêà èç ñòðîêè 1 â ñòðîêó 2.  îñâîáîäèâøååñÿ ìåñòî â ñòðîêå 1 âñòàâüòå íîìåð ñâîåãî R- êîøåëüêà. Òåïåðü Âû ñòàëè ïðîäàâöîì REPORT#1. 5. Òîæå ñàìîå ïðîäåëàéòå ñ e-mail àäðåñàìè. ÏÐÈÌÅ×ÀÍÈÅ: *Çà êàæäûé REPORT ïåðåâåäèòå ðóáëåâûé ýêâèâàëåíò $5 USD ïî êóðñó ÖÁ, ñî ñâîåãî êîøåëüêà íà íîìåð êîøåëüêà ïðîäàâöà. (USD ïîòîìó, ÷òî â ýòî âîâëå÷åíû æåëàþùèå ñî âñåãî ñâåòà). Âñå îïåðàöèè îò ñîçäàíèÿ êîøåëüêà äî îïëàòû REPORT's ïðîèçâîäÿòñÿ â ïðîãðàììå WebMoney Keeper. * êîøåëüêå, äåíüãè õðàíÿòñÿ â âèäå óñëîâíûõ åäèíèö (WebMoney). Ïî êóðñó 1WM = 1 ðóá. äëÿ R- êîøåëüêà 1WM = 1 äîëëàð ÑØÀ äëÿ Z- êîøåëüêà. *Êîãäà ñäåëàåòå ñâîé çàêàç, óáåäèòåñü, ÷òî âû çàêàçàëè âñå REPORT. Âñå îíè ïîíàäîáÿòñÿ äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû Âû ñîõðàíèëè ó ñåáÿ â êîìïüþòåðå è, ïîòîì, ìîãëè ïðîäàâàòü êîïèè. Âàì äåéñòâèòåëüíî íóæíû âñå ýòè REPORT, èíà÷å ëþäè íå ñìîãóò ñäåëàòü ó âàñ çàêàç, à ñàìîå ãëàâíîå, ýòè REPORT's ñîäåðæàò âàæíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ î òîì, êàê èì äîñòè÷ü óñïåõà!! È ðàçâèâàòü ýòîò áèçíåññ. * òå÷åíèè íåñêîëüêèõ äíåé ïîñëå îïëàòû, âû ïîëó÷èòå ÷åòûðå e-mail, â êàæäîì ïî îäíîìó REPORT(ó). Ñîõðàíèòå èõ â âàøåì êîìïüþòåðå (è íà äèñêåòå äëÿ íàäåæíîñòè), ÷òîáû îíè âñåãäà áûëè ãîòîâû ê ïîñûëêå òûñÿ÷àì ëþäåé, êîòîðûå èõ ó âàñ çàêàæóò. Òåïåðü ýòî Âàø òîâàð, ñ ïðàâîì ïðîäàæè! ÂÀÆÍÎ: - íå ìåíÿéòå íîìåðà êîøåëüêîâ, êîòîðûå íàõîäÿòñÿ â ñïèñêå çà êàæäûì èç REPORT's (íèêàêèì ñïîñîáîì), òîëüêî òàê, êàê ýòî óêàçàíî â ïóíêòàõ (1 - 5), èíà÷å ïîòåðÿåòå áîëüøóþ ÷àñòü ñâîèõ äîõîäîâ. Êîãäà ïîéìåòå, êàê ýòî äåéñòâóåò, Âàì ñðàçó ñòàíåò ïîíÿòíî, ïî÷åìó ýòî ïåðåñòàåò äåéñòâîâàòü, êîãäà ÷òî-íèáóäü èçìåíèøü íå ïî ïóíêòàì(1 - 5) . Ïîìíèòå, ýòîò ìåòîä áûë ïðîâåðåí, è åñëè Âû èçìåíèòå åãî, îí ïåðåñòàíåò ðàáîòàòü!! Âîçüìèòå ýòîò äîêóìåíò ñ èçìåíåííûì ïåðå÷íåì èìåí è ñ÷åòîâ è ñêîïèðóéòå åãî íà âàø êîìïüþòåð. Òåïåðü âû ãîòîâû ê ðàáîòå è ìîæåòå ðàññûëàòü ýòî ïðåäëîæåíèå â ïîèñêàõ ñâîèõ êëèåíòîâ, íî ïðåäâàðèòåëüíî îáÿçàòåëüíî ïðî÷èòàéòå âñå ÷åòûðå ðóêîâîäñòâà - îíè ñèëüíî ïîìîãóò âàì. Íå äåëàéòå íèêàêèõ èçìåíåíèé â ÷àñòè ÈÍÑÒÐÓÊÖÈÈ!!! Âàø ôèíàíñîâûé âêëàä â äàííîå ïðåäïðèÿòèå ÿâëÿåòñÿ ïðàêòè÷åñêè íè÷òîæíûì (êîíå÷íî æå åñëè âû ìîæåòå ïîçâîëèòü ñåáå èíâåñòèðîâàòü 20,- USD, èëè, íàïðèìåð, ìîæåòå ñëîæèòüñÿ ñ äðóçüÿìè. ×åì áîëüøå áóäåò Âàñ äëÿ ïîñûëêè ðåêëàìû è email, òåì áîëüøå âû èõ ïîøëåòå!. Âû, êîíå÷íî æå, óæå ïîäêëþ÷åíû ê ñåòè Èíòåðíåò è èìååòå áåñïëàòíûé e-mail!  ïîìîùü Âàì ñ âàøèì ìàðêåòèíãîì, ñîçäàíû 4 REPORT(ðóêîâîäñòâà), êîòîðûå âû çàêàçàëè. Îíè ñîäåðæàò ïîëåçíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ, íàïðèìåð, êàê ïîñûëàòü ìàññîâóþ ïî÷òîâóþ ðàññûëêó (e-mail), ãäå íàéòè òûñÿ÷ó âîçìîæíîñòåé ñäåëàòü áåñïëàòíóþ ðåêëàìó è ò.ä. Òàêæå âàì áóäóò äàíû èíôîðìàöèè îá ÈÍÒÅÐÍÅÒ-ÌÀÐÊÅÒÈÍÃ-ÊËÓÁÀÕ. Çäåñü íàéäåòå êîíôåðåíöèþ, ãäå èíòåðíåò-ïðåäïðèíèìàòåëè ñ öåëîãî ñâåòà âçàèìíî îáìåíèâàþòñÿ èíôîðìàöèåé è ñåêðåòàìè óñïåõà. Êëóá òàêæå áåñïëàòíî ïðåäîñòàâëÿåò èíòåðíåòîâûå èíñòðóìåíòû è óñëóãè äëÿ ñîçäàíèÿ ÑÎÁÑÒÂÅÍÍÎÃÎ ÈÍÒÅÐÍÅÒ ÏÐÅÄÏÐÈßÒÈß. Ïîñòàâÿò áåñïëàòíî software äëÿ îòïðàâëåíèÿ ìàññîâûõ e-mail è êàæäûé äåíü 1.000.000 íîâûõ e-mail àäðåñîâ. Òàêæå Âàì ïîñîâåòóþò, ãäå íàéòè áåñïëàòíóþ WEB ñòðàíèöó, êàê ïîëó÷èòü TOP îöåíêó â ïîèñêîâûõ ïðîãðàììàõ äëÿ Âàøåé ñòðàíèöû, êàê ïðîäàòü Âàø ïðîäóêò ïðè ïîìîùè ðåêëàìû, áþëëåòåíåé, áàííåðîâ è ìíîãî äðóãèõ ñîâåòîâ. Àäðåñ IMR: http://www.marketingontheweb.net Ïðèëîæåíèå àäðåñîâ ñî ñïèñêàìè è ïîèñêîâûìè ïðîãðàììàìè e-mail àäðåñîâ: http://www.whowhere.lycos.com/Email http://www.infospace.com/info/email1.htm !!! ÎÁßÇÀÒÅËÜÍÎ ÏÐÎÂÅÐÜÒÅ ÏÐÀÂÈËÜÍÎÑÒÜ ÈÇÌÅÍÅÍÈß ÒÀÁËÈÖÛ !!! Ïðèáëèçèòåëüíî 50.000 íîâûõ ëþäåé ïîäêëþ÷àþòñÿ ê Èíòåðíåòó êàæäûé ìåñÿö! Ïðîâåðüòå, îñîáåííî âíèìàòåëüíî, ïðàâèëüíîñòü óêàçàíèÿ íîìåðà êîøåëüêà ïðè ïåðåâîäå. Ýòî î÷åíü âàæíî, òàê êàê ïîêà íå çàïëàòèòå ïðàâèëüíî, çàêàç íå ïðèäåò, à Âû íå ïîëó÷èòå ñâîé report. Íàéäèòå âðåìÿ, ÷òîáû âû ñìîãëè ñäåëàòü âñå ïðàâèëüíî è íå òîðîïÿñü, ïîòîìó ÷òî ýòî îñíîâà Âàøåãî áèçíåñà. ************* ÑÎÂÅÒÛ Ê ÓÑÏÅÕÓ ************ *Ñ×ÈÒÀÉÒÅ ÝÒÎ ÑÂÎÈÌ ÁÈÇÍÅÑÎÌ!!! Áóäüòå áûñòðûìè, ïðîôåññèîíàëüíûìè è ïðèäåðæèâàéòåñü èíñòðóêöèé. *Çàêàæèòå ñåáå ÷åòûðå REPORT's ÏÐßÌÎ ÑÅÉ×ÀÑ, ÷òîáû âû èõ èìåëè, êîãäà ê âàì íà÷íóò ïðèõîäèòü çàêàçû, ïîòîìó ÷òî: *Êîãäà ïîëó÷èòå $5 ÑØÀ, âû ÄÎËÆÍÛ ïîñëàòü æåëàåìûé ïðîäóêò (REPORT)! * ÂÑÅÃÄÀ ÎÒÏÐÀÂËßÉÒÅ ÇÀÊÀÇÛ Â ÒÎÒ ÄÅÍÜ ÊÎÃÄÀ ÎÍÈ ÏÐÈÉÄÓÒ!!!! *Áóäüòå òåðïåëèâû è íå ñäàâàéòåñü!! Åñëè áóäåòå òî÷íî èñïîëíÿòü ïðåäïèñàíèÿ, Âàøè ðåçóëüòàòû ÁÓÄÓÒ ÓÑÏÅØÍÛÌÈ!!!! *À ÃËÀÂÍÎÅ, ÂÅÐÜÒÅ Â ÑÅÁß È ÒÎÌÓ, ×ÒÎ Ó ÂÀÑ ÏÎËÓ×ÈÒÜÑß!!!!!!! ************ ÍÀØÈ ÐßÄÛ ÓÑÏÅÕÀ *********** Ïðèäåðæèâàéòåñü ýòèõ ðÿäîâ è ó âàñ âñå ïîëó÷èòüñÿ: Åñëè íå ïîëó÷èòå 20 çàêàçîâ íà Report #1 â òå÷åíèè äâóõ íåäåëü, ïðîäîëæàéòå äåëàòü ðåêëàìó è ïîñûëàòü e-mail, äî òåõ ïîð, ïîêà èõ íå ïîëó÷èòå. Ïîòîì âû â òå÷åíèè íåñêîëüêèõ íåäåëü Âû äîëæíû ïîëó÷èòü çàêàçû íà Report #2. Åñëè ýòî íå ïðîèçîéäåò, íå ïåðåñòàâàéòå ïîñûëàòü ðåêëàìó äî òåõ ïîð, ïîêà íå äîñòèãíèòå 100 çàêàçîâ íà Report #2. Êàê òîëüêî ïîëó÷èòå 100 çàêàçîâ íà Report #2, ÌÎÆÅÒÅ ÍÀ×ÀÒÜ ÎÒÄÛÕÀÒÜ, ïîòîìó ÷òî ñèñòåìà â ýòîì ñëó÷àå óæå ðàáîòàåò çà Âàñ à Âàøè äåíüãè áóäóò ïðèõîäèòü ñàìè ïî ñåáå. ÝÒÎ ÂÀÆÍÎ ÇÀÏÎÌÍÈÒÜ: Âñåãäà, êîãäà âàøå èìÿ ïðîäâèãàåòñÿ âíèç ïî ñïèñêó, Âû ïîëó÷àåòå çàêàç íà ñëåäóþùèé Report, ïîýòîìó ìîæåòå ñëåäèòü ñâîå ïðîäâèæåíèå, ïî òîìó êàêîé êàêîé Report îò Âàñ çàêàçûâàþò ëþäè! Åñëè ïîæåëàåòå ïîâûñèòü ñâîé äîõîä, òî ïðîñòî ïîñûëàéòå íîâóþ ïàðòèþ e-mail. Òàê Âû íà÷íåòå âåñü ïðîöåññ ñíà÷àëà. ÍÅ ÑÓÙÅÑÒÂÓÅÒ ÍÈÊÀÊÎÉ ÃÐÀÍÈÖÛ ÏÐÈÁÛËÈ, ÊÎÒÎÐÓÞ ÌÎÆÍÎ ÄÎÑÒÈÃÍÓÒÜ Â ÝÒÎÌ ÁÈÇÍÅÑÅ!!! Ïåðåä òåì, êàê ðåøèòå õîòèòå ýòèì çàíèìàòüñÿ èëè íåò, ïðî÷èòàéòå ñëåäóþùèå ôàêòû îá ýòîé ïðîãðàììå: ÏÐÎÄÀÅÒÅ ÏÐÎÄÓÊÒ, ÏÐÎÈÇÂÎÄÑÒÂÎ ÊÎÒÎÐÎÃÎ ÂÀÌ ÍÈ×ÅÃÎ ÍÅ ÑÒÎÈÒ! ÏÐÎÄÀÅÒÅ ÏÐÎÄÓÊÒ, ÒÐÀÍÑÏÎÐÒÈÐÎÂÊÀ ÊÎÒÎÐÎÃÎ ÂÀÌ ÍÈ×ÅÃÎ ÍÅ ÑÒÎÈÒ! ÏÐÎÄÀÅÒÅ ÏÐÎÄÓÊÒ, ÐÅÊËÀÌÀ ÊÎÒÎÐÎÃÎ ÂÀÌ ÍÈ×ÅÃÎ ÍÅ ÑÒÎÈÒ! ÈÑÏÎËÜÇÓÅÒÅ ÑÈËÓ ÈÍÒÅÐÍÅÒÀ È MULTI-LEVEL MARKETING! ÂÀØÅÉ ÅÄÈÍÑÒÂÅÍÍÎÉ ÂÛÄÀ×ÅÉ ÊÐÎÌÅ ÍÀ×ÀËÜÍÎÉ ÈÍÂÅÑÒÈÖÈÈ 20,- USD ßÂËßÅÒÑß ÒÎËÜÊÎ ÂÀØÅ ÂÐÅÌß! ÂÅÑÜ ÇÀÐÀÁÎÒÎÊ ÊÎÒÎÐÛÉ ÂÛ ÏÎËÓ×ÈÒÅ ßÂËßÅÒÑß ×ÈÑÒÎÉ ÏÐÈÁÛËÜÞ! ÝÒÀ ÏÐÎÃÐÀÌÌÀ ÍÀÂÑÅÃÄÀ ÈÇÌÅÍÈÒ ÂÀØÓ ÆÈÇÍÜ!   ***** ÎÏÛÒ ÄÐÓÃÈÕ ***** Ýòà ïðîãðàììà äåéñòâóåò, íî âû äîëæíû òî÷íî èñïîëíÿòü èíñòðóêöèè! ÃËÀÂÍÎÅ ÍÅ ÏÎÌÅÙÀÉÒÅ ÂÀØÅ ÈÌß ÍÀ ÄÐÓÃÓÞ ÏÎÇÈÖÈÞ, ÝÒÎ ÎÁÎÉÄÅÒÑß ÂÀÌ ÁÎËÜØÎÉ ÏÎÒÅÐÅÉ ÄÅÍÅÃ, ÝÒÎ ÏÐÎÑÒÎ ÍÅ ÄÅÉÑÒÂÓÅÒ!!! ß - ðåàëüíîå äîêàçàòåëüñòâî ðàáîòîñïîñîáíîñòè ýòîãî áèçíåñà. Ýòî äåéñòâèòåëüíî ïðåâîñõîäíàÿ âîçìîæíîñòü, òàê ðåàëüíî è ëåãêî çàðàáîòàòü äåíüãè ñ ìèíèìàëüíûì âêëàäîì. Åñëè ðåøèòåñü ýòî ïîïðîáîâàòü, ïðèäåðæèâàéòåñü èíñòðóêöèé ïðîãðàììû è áóäåòå íà ëó÷øåé äîðîãå ê ôèíàíñîâîé íåçàâèñèìîñòè. Steven Bardfield, Portland, OR ************************************************************ Ýòà ïðîãðàììà äåéñòâèòåëüíî äåéñòâóåò. Æèâó íå â Àìåðèêå, à â Åâðîïå è ñíà÷àëà ÿ áîÿëñÿ, íå áûë óâåðåí, äåéñòâèòåëüíî ëè ýòî äåéñòâóåò, à ïîòîìó, íå îòíîñèëñÿ ê ýòîìó ñåðüåçíî. À ïîòîì ñêàçàë ñåáå: "À ïî÷åìó íåò?". Ñîçäàë êîøåëåê, ïîïîëíèë åãî , è ñäåëàë ïåðåâîä, çàêàçàâ ñåáå ÷åòûðå Reporty.  òå÷åíèè 5-è äíåé ïîëó÷èë èõ âñåõ ïî e-mail. Äîëüøå âñåãî ïðèøëîñü æäàòü Report #4. Íî ýòî è ïîíÿòíî, âåäü ó ïðîäàâöà ýòîãî, ïîñëåäíåãî óðîâíÿ, òûñÿ÷è çàêàçîâ. Âñå ñäåëàë òî÷íî ïî èíñòðóêöèè (÷òîáû áûòü óâåðåííûì, åñëè ýòî äåëî íå çàðàáîòàåò, òî ýòî íå ïðè÷èíà ìîåé îøèáêè) è æäàë. ß âíèìàòåëüíî ïðî÷èòàë âñå ïîëó÷åííûå ðóêîâîäñòâà, à êîãäà óçíàë, êàê âñå íàäî äåëàòü, íà÷àë ñâîé áèçíåñ. ß èñêàë àäðåñà âåçäå è ñäåëàë ñåáå äëèííûé ñïèñîê (ìíå ýòî áûëî äåéñòâèòåëüíî èíòåðåñíî, ýòî áûëî êàê íîâîå õîááè, è ÿ íå ìîã íè÷åãî ïîòåðÿòü), êàê íåíîðìàëüíûé ÿ íà÷àë ïîñûëàòü e-mail ëþäÿì â öåëîì ñâåòå. Äåëàë ÿ ýòî ïîñòîÿííî, è êàæäûé äåíü êîíòðîëèðîâàë ñâîé ïî÷òîâûé ÿùèê è êîøåëåê. Ïðèìåðíî ÷åðåç äåíü íà÷àëè ïðèõîäèòü çàêàçû. Äî ñèõ ïîð ïîìíþ òîò ìîìåíò, êîãäà îáíàðóæèë ïåðâûé çàêàç. Íåêîòîðîå âðåìÿ ÿ ïðîñòî ñòîÿë è íå ìîã äâèãàòüñÿ: "Ýòî ðàáîòàåò! Ýòà øòóêà çàðàáîòàëà ìàòü åå òàê!". Ïðîøó ïðîùåíèÿ çà âûðàæåíèå, íî ß áûë î÷åíü ñ÷àñòëèâ, è íà÷àë ïîñûëàòü åùå áîëüøå e-mail, ïîÿâèëñÿ ñèëüíåéøèé ñòèìóë ê ðàáîòå. Íà ñëåäóþùèé äåíü - ïóñòîé ÿùèê è ñíîâà ÿ ïîäóìàë, ÷òî ýòî íå áóäåò ðàáîòàòü, íî îêàçàëîñü íàîáîðîò. Íà ñëåäóþùèé äåíü ÿ ïîëó÷èë 3 çàêàçà, â òîò æå ìîìåíò ÿ ïîñëàë ëþäÿì èõ reporty, ÷òîáû ìîãëè òîæå áûñòðî çàðàáîòàòü äåíüãè (äëÿ ñåáÿ è äëÿ ìåíÿ). Çà äâå íåäåëè, êàæäûé äåíü ÿ ñèäåë ïðèìåðíî 30 ìèíóò ó êîìïüþòåðà è ïîñûëàë çàêàçû.  òå÷åíèè äâóõ íåäåëü ÿ ïîëó÷èë 29 çàêàçîâ íà Report #1. Ïîòîì çàêàçû ñòàëè ïðèõîäèòü ÷àùå è áûñòðåå, êàæäóþ íåäåëþ ÿ ïîëó÷àë îêîëî ñòà çàêàçîâ, a äåíüãè âñå ïîñòóïàëè íà ìîé ñ÷åò.  öåëîì ÿ çàðàáîòàë îêîëî 64.000,- USD.  ÝÒÎ ÍÅ ÂÎÇÌÎÆÍÎ ÁÛËÎ ÏÎÂÅÐÈÒÜ! Íà ïðîøëîé íåäåëå ÿ êóïèë ñåáå íîâóþ òà÷êó è ýòî áëàãîäàðÿ ïðîãðàììå. Åñëè è òåïåðü Âû íå çíàåòå, ÷òî äåëàòü, òàê ÿ Âàì ãîâîðþ Ï_Î_Ï_Ð_Î_Á_Ó_É_Ò_Å è íå ïîæàëååòå. Ýòî Âàø øàíñ, åñëè åãî óïóñòèòå, òàê áóäåòå æàëåòü îá ýòîì äî êîíöà æèçíè! Í. Ðåáðîâ, Ðîññèÿ. ************************************************************ Ìåíÿ çîâóò Mitchell a ìîÿ æåíà Jody, æèâåì â ×èêàãî. ß áóõãàëòåð â îäíîé àìåðèêàíñêîé ôèðìå è çàðàáàòûâàþ íà æèçíü äîñòàòî÷íî äåíåã. Êîãäà ÿ ïîëó÷èë ýòîò e-mail, ÿ áûë çîë íà æåíó èç-çà ïîëó÷åíèÿ "junk mail" (ðåêëàìíûå ëèñòû, è ò.ä.., áåç ïîæåëàíèÿ). ß ïîñìåÿëñÿ íàä ïðåäëîæåíèåì, ÿ çíàë, ÷òî ýòî íå áóäåò äåéñòâîâàòü. Jody ìåíÿ àáñîëþòíî èãíîðèðîâàëà è íà÷àëà ýòèì çàíèìàòüñÿ. ß øóòèë íàä íåé è áûë ãîòîâ ïðîèçíåñòè èçâåñòíóþ ôðàçó "Âèäèøü, ÿ æå òåáå ãîâîðèë, ÷òî ýòî íå áóäåò äåéñòâîâàòü!" Íî ñìåÿëèñü ïîòîì íàäî ìíîé!!! Çà 45 äíåé îíà ïîëó÷èëà 47.200,- USD. ß áûë â øîêå!!! ß áûë óâåðåí, ÷òî ýòî íå äåéñòâóåò, a ýòî áûëà íåïðàâäà!!! ß ïðèñîåäèíèëñÿ ê Jody, äî ïåíñèè ìíå îñòàâàëîñü ñåìü ëåò, a ýòà ïðîãðàììà âåðíóëà ìíå æåëàíèå ðàáîòàòü, ïîòîìó ÷òî ÿ âèäåë ñâîè ðåçóëüòàòû! Mitchell Wolf, MD, Chicago, IL. ************************************************************ Ãëàâíûì äîâîäîì ýòîãî ïèñüìà ÿâëÿåòñÿ òî, ÷òîáû óáåäèë âàñ, ÷òî ýòî ÷åñòíàÿ, ëåãàëüíàÿ, ïðèáûëüíàÿ ñèñòåìà äëÿ çàðàáàòûâàíèÿ áîëüøèõ äåíåã çà êîðîòêîå âðåìÿ. ß òîëüêî ïîïðîáîâàë, ÷òîáû óçíàòü, ÷òî ìîæíî ïîëó÷èòü âçàìåí çà ìèíèìàëüíûé âêëàä è ñòàðàíèå. Ê ìîåìó óäèâëåíèþ ÿ ïîëó÷èë 3.470,- USD çà ïåðâûõ 14 äíåé à îñòàëüíûå äåíüãè âñå åùå ïðèõîäÿò!!! 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ß ÐÀÁÎÒÀÞ ÏÎ ÝÒÎÉ ÏÐÎÃÐÀÌÌÅ ÎÄÈÍ - ÄÂÀ ×ÀÑÀ  ÄÅÍÜ, ÂÊËÞ×Àß ÎÁÐÀÁÎÒÊÓ ÇÀÊÀÇÎÂ È ÄÎÐÎÃÓ Â ÁÀÍÊ!!!

Íà÷íèòå ðàáîòàòü ñ íàìè è óâèäèòå, ÷òî áóäåòå ðàäû òîìó, ÷òî òàê ñäåëàëè!!!

ÇÀÐÀÁÎÒÀÉÒÅ 100.000,- USD ÇÀ ÃÎÄ ÍÀ ÐÅÊËÀÌÅ Â ÈÍÒÅÐÍÅÒÅ È ÐÀÑÑÛËÊÅ E-MAIL!!!

Óâàæàåìûå äðóçüÿ è ïîäðóãè,

Âû ìîæåòå çàðàáîòàòü 50.000,- USD è áîëüøå â òå÷åíèå ñëåäóþùèõ 90 äíåé íà ðàññûëêå e-mail. ÊÀÆÅÒÑß ÍÅÂÎÇÌÎÆÍÛÌ?? Ïðî÷èòàéòå äåòàëè, â ýòîì íåò íèêàêîé êàâåðçû èëè îáìàíà, ïðîñòî äåëàéòå ñåáå ðåêëàìó â Èíòåðíåò, ðàññûëàéòå e-mail è ðàçìåùàéòå ðåêëàìíûå îáúÿâëåíèÿ, è ÂÛ âñòàíåòå íà ïóòü ê ôèíàíñîâîé íåçàâèñèìîñòè è ÑÂÎÁÎÄÅ!!

"AS SEEN ON NATIONAL TELEVISION"

Ñïàñèáî çà Âàøå âðåìÿ è èíòåðåñ. Îá ýòîì ïèñüìå íåäàâíî áûëî íàïèñàíî â àìåðèêàíñêèõ ãàçåòàõ. Òàêæå, ââèäó åãî ïîïóëÿðíîñòè â Èíòåðíåòå, ãëàâíàÿ íî÷íàÿ èíôîðìàöèîííàÿ ïðîãðàììà ïîñâåòèëà åìó öåëóþ ïåðåäà÷ó íà îáúÿñíåíèå è âûÿñíåíèå, äåéñòâèòåëüíî ëè íèæå îïèñàííàÿ ïðîãðàììà ìîæåò ïðèíåñòè ëþäÿì äåíüãè. Òàêæå ïðîâåäåíî èññëåäîâàíèå ëåãàëüíîñòè äàííîé ïðîãðàììû.  ðåçóëüòàòå êîòîðîãî, ðàç è íàâñåãäà ïîäòâåðäèëîñü, ÷òî íå íàðóøàþòñÿ íèêàêèå çàêîíû è ïîñòàíîâëåíèÿ. Ýòî ïîìîãëî ïîêàçàòü ëþäÿì, ÷òî ýòî ïðîñòîé, áåçâðåäíûé è èíòåðåñíûé ñïîñîá çàðàáîòêà äåíåã íà äîìó. Âû ïîéìåòå ñóòü, êàê òîëüêî ïðî÷èòàåòå ýòî ðóêîâîäñòâî.

 

 

Íàïå÷àòàéòå ýòîò äîêóìåíò ñåé÷àñ, äëÿ ïîñëåäóþùåãî ÷òåíèÿ.

(Èíôîðìàöèÿ òðåáóåò âíèìàòåëüíîãî ïðî÷òåíèÿ)

Ñëåäóþùàÿ âîçìîæíîñòü, ïðèíîñèò äîõîä , è ìîæåò Âàñ çàèíòåðåñîâàòü.

Åñòü âîçìîæíîñòü åå íà÷àòü ñ ìèíèìàëüíûìè èíâåñòèöèÿìè, à äîõîä ïðîñòî ÏÎÐÀÇÈÒÅËÜÍÛÉ!!!!!

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Õîòèòå çàðàáîòàòü 50.000,- USD ìåíüøå ÷åì çà 90 äíåé!? Ïîæàëóéñòà, ïðî÷èòàéòå äàííóþ ïðîãðàììó, ñíà÷àëà ÿ ýòîìó òîæå íå âåðèë, îäíàêî ýòî òàê!!!

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ÝÒÎ ËÅÃÀËÜÍÀß ÂÎÇÌÎÆÍÎÑÒÜ ÇÀÐÀÁÎÒÀÒÜ ÄÅÍÜÃÈ !!! !!!

Ýòî íå òðåáóåò, ÷òîáû âû âñòðå÷àëèñü ñ ëþäüìè (êàê âî ìíîãèõ äðóãèõ ïîäîáíûõ ïðåäëîæåíèÿõ)!!! Ìîæåòå ðàáîòàòü ñâîèì òåìïîì. Ñàìîå ëó÷øåå ýòî òî, ÷òî íåò íåîáõîäèìîñòè ïîêèäàòü ñâîé äîì. Åñëè âû âåðèòå, ÷òî êîãäà-íèáóäü, â îäèí ïðåêðàñíûé äåíü, ó Âàñ ïîÿâèòüñÿ âîçìîæíîñòü äîëãî îòäûõàòü, òàê ýòo, èìåííî, è åñòü òàêàÿ ÂÎÇÌÎÆÍÎÑÒÜ!!!!!

Ïðîñòî, ñëåäóéòå äàííîé èíñòðóêöèè, è Âàø ñîí èñïîëíèòñÿ. Ýòîò áèçíåñ - Multi-level-E-MAIL òîðãîâëÿ ïî çàêàçàì, ïðîãðàììà äåéñòâóåò ïðåâîñõîäíî íà 100% è êîãäà è ãäå óãîäíî. E-mail ÿâëÿåòñÿ òîðãîâûì èíñòðóìåíòîì áóäóùåãî!!! Èñïîëüçóéòå ýòîò íåêîììåð÷åñêèé ìåòîä ðåêëàìû. Ñäåëàéòå ýòî ñåé÷àñ!!! ×åì äîëüøå áóäåòå æäàòü, òåì áîëüøå ëþäåé áóäåò äåëàòü ýòîò áèçíåññ. Âîçüìèòå ñåáå ÷àñòü ÝÒÎÉ ÀÊÖÈÈ!! MULTI-LEVEL-MARKETING (MLM) íàêîíåö-òî äîñòèã óâàæåíèÿ. Îí ïðåïîäàåòñÿ â Ãàðâàðäñêîé òîðãîâîé øêîëå. Ñòýíôîðäñêèé èññëåäîâàòåëüñêèé èíñòèòóò è æóðíàë Wall Street çàÿâèëè, ÷òî 50-65% âñåõ òîâàðîâ è óñëóã äî êîíöà òûñÿ÷åëåòèÿ áóäóò ïðîäàâàòüñÿ ïîñðåäñòâîì multi-level ìåòîäîâ. Ýòî ìíîãî ìèëëèàðäíàÿ äîëëàðîâàÿ èíäóñòðèÿ, è òîëüêî èç 500,000 ìèëëèîíåðîâ â ÑØÀ, öåëûõ 20% (100.000 ÷åëîâåê) ñäåëàëè ñâîå ñîñòîÿíèå çà ïîñëåäíèå ïàðó ëåò áëàãîäàðÿ MLM. À åùå, ñòàòèñòèêà ïîêàçûâàåò, ÷òî 45 ÷åëîâåê êàæäûé äåíü ñòàíîâÿòñÿ ìèëëèîíåðàìè áëàãîäàðÿ Multi-Level-Marketing. Âîçìîæíî, ÷òî âû óæå ñëûøàëè èñòîðèþ, êàê Äîíàëüä Òðàìï ëåòîì íàâåñòèë øîó Äåâèäà Ëåòòåðìàíà. Äåâèä ñïðîñèë åãî, ÷òîáû îí äåëàë åñëè áû ïîòåðÿë âñå ñâîå ñîñòîÿíèå è âûíóæäåí áûë íà÷àòü âñå ñ íà÷àëà. Äîíàëüä áåç êîëåáàíèÿ îòâåòèë, ÷òî íàøåë áû õîðîøóþ MLM ôèðìó è íà÷àë ðàáîòàòü. Ïóáëèêà íà÷àëà ñâèñòåòü âûðàæàÿ íåñîãëàñèå. Äîíàëüä ïîñìîòðåë íà çðèòåëüíûé çàë è ñåðüåçíî ïðîèçíåñ: "Áëàãîäàðÿ ýòîìó ÿ çäåñü íàâåðõó, à âû òàì, âíèçó!"

Ñ ñåòåâûì ìàðêåòèíãîì âû èìååòå äâà èñòî÷íèêà ïðèáûëè: Ïðÿìàÿ ïðèáûëü ñ ïðîäàæè, êîòîðóþ ïðîâîäèòå Âû ñàìè è ïðèáûëü ñ îáîðîòà ëþäåé, êîòîðûõ ïðèâåäåòå â áèçíåñ. Áåñêîíå÷íàÿ ïðèáûëü ÿâëÿåòñÿ òàéíîé áîãàòñòâà. Ýòî çíà÷èò îäèí ðàç èíâåñòèðîâàòü âðåìÿ èëè äåíüãè à ïîòîì ïîëó÷àòü äåíüãè ñíîâà è ñíîâà.  ñåòåâîì ìàðêåòèíãå ýòî òàêæå îçíà÷àåò ïîëó÷àòü äåíüãè çà ðàáîòó äðóãèõ.

Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, ïðî÷èòàâ ýòî ïèñüìî âïåðâûå, ÿ ïðàêòè÷åñêè ïðîïóñòèë òàêóþ âîçìîæíîñòü ñêâîçü ïàëüöû, è äàæå íå ñòàë ÷èòàòü äàëüøå, íî âñêîðå ÿ ïåðå÷èòàë âñå çàíîâî. Çàäóìàëñÿ è ïîíÿë âñþ ñèëó ýòîãî ïðåäëîæåíèÿ.

È òåïåðü ÿ áîãàò è ñâîáîäåí. ß ìîãó äóõîâíî ðàçâèâàòüñÿ, îòäûõàòü, íàäî ìíîé íåò ãíåòà íà÷àëüñòâà, ìîåé ñåìüå è ìíå íå ìåøàåò óíèçèòåëüíàÿ áåäíîñòü è áîðüáà çà êóñîê õëåáà, ìåøàÿ ÷åëîâå÷åñêîé æèçíè...

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Íàïðèìåð, âîò ÷òî ãîâîðèò ìèñòåð Äæåðè Ïðîêòîð, àìåðèêàíñêèé ìèëëèîíåð.

Äâà ãîäà íàçàä áûëà óïðàçäíåíà ìîÿ äîëæíîñòü â ôèðìå, â êîòîðîé ÿ ðàáîòàë ïîñëåäíèõ ïÿòíàäöàòü ëåò. Ïîñëå íåñêîëüêèõ íåóñïåøíûõ ñîáåñåäîâàíèé ÿ ðåøèë íà÷àòü ñâîé ñîáñòâåííûé áèçíåñ.  òå÷åíèè ïðîøëûõ ëåò ÿ ïðîøåë ìíîãî ôèíàíñîâûõ çàòðóäíåíèé. ß áûë äîëæåí ñâîåé ñåìüå, äðóçüÿì è êðåäèòîðàì áîëåå 35.000,- USD. ß áûë âûíóæäåí çàëîæèòü ñâîé äîì, ÷òîáû ïðîêîðìèòü ñâîþ ñåìüþ è óäåðæàòü ñâîé áèçíåñ.  ÝÒÎÒ ÌÎÌÅÍÒ ïðîèçîøëî íå÷òî âûäàþùååñÿ â ìîåé æèçíè, è ÿ ïèøó äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû ïîäåëèòüñÿ îá ýòîì çíàìåíàòåëüíîì ñîáûòèè ñ Âàìè.  ñåðåäèíå äåêàáðÿ 1998 ÿ ïîëó÷èë e-mail ñ ýòîé ïðîãðàììîé. Ïåðåä ýòèì ÿ øåñòü ìåñÿöåâ èñêàë ðàçíûå òîðãîâûå âîçìîæíîñòè. Âñå ïðîãðàììû, êîòîðûå ÿ ïîëó÷èë íå áûëè ýôôåêòèâíûìè (ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå íà ìîé âçãëÿä). Îíè áûëè èëè ñëèøêîì ñëîæíûìè èëè òðåáîâàëè áîëüøèõ èíâåñòèöèé, à ðèñêîâàòü ñâîèì âêëàäîì, ÷òîáû óçíàòü äåéñòâóåò ýòî èëè íåò, ÿ íå õîòåë. Êàê ÿ óæå ãîâîðèë, â äåêàáðå 1998 ÿ ïîëó÷èë ýòó ïðîãðàììó. ß íå õîòåë åå ïîëó÷àòü, ïðîñòî, ïîëó÷èë òàê æå êàê è Âû. Ñïàñèáî Áîãó çà ýòî! ß ïðî÷èòàë ïðîãðàììó íåñêîëüêî ðàç, ïîòîìó ÷òî íå ìîã â íåå ïîâåðèòü, è ïðèíÿëñÿ çà ðàáîòó. ß ìîã èíâåñòèðîâàòü òîëüêî ñòîëüêî äåíåã, ñêîëüêî â äàííûé ìîìåíò áûëî âîçìîæíî. Òàê æå êàê è Âû ÿ áûë ñêåïòè÷åí è íåìíîãî áîÿëñÿ î ëåãàëüíîñòè äàííîé ïðîãðàììû. Ïîñëå èñêëþ÷åíèÿ òîãî, ÷òî ïðîãðàììà ìîæåò áûòü íåëåãàëüíîé, ÿ ñêàçàë ñåáå, ïî÷åìó áû ìíå ýòî íå ïîïðîáîâàòü. Ïîòîì ÿ ïîñëàë îêîëî 10.000 e-mail. Ñòîèëî ìíå ýòî îêîëî 15,- USD çà ìîå âðåìÿ on-line. Ïðåâîñõîäíîå ñâîéñòâî e-mail ñîñòîèò â òîì, ÷òî íå íàäî íè÷åãî ïå÷àòàòü, à íóæíî òîëüêî ïîñûëàòü. Òàê êàê âñå çàêàçû îôîðìëÿþòñÿ ÷åðåç e-mail, òî ìîåé èíâåñòèöèåé áûëî òîëüêî ìîå âðåìÿ, êîòîðîå ÿ ïðîâåë ó êîìïüþòåðà. Ãîâîðþ Âàì êàê ýòî áûëî, íàäåþñü, ÷òî Âàñ ýòî íå ðàçî÷àðóåò, òàê êàê ÿ ïîîáåùàë ñåáå, ÷òî íèêîãî íå îáìàíó, ÷åãî áû ìíå ýòî íå ñòîèëî. Ìåíüøå ÷åì ÷åðåç íåäåëþ ÿ íà÷àë ïîëó÷àòü çàêàçû íà REPORT #1. Äî 13 ÿíâàðÿ 1999 ÿ ïîëó÷èë 26 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #1. Âàøåé öåëüþ ÿâëÿåòñÿ ïîëó÷èòü ìèíèìàëüíî 20 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #1  ÒÅ×ÅÍÈÈ ÄÂÓÕ ÍÅÄÅËÜ. ÅÑËÈ ÂÛ ÈÕ ÍÅ ÏÎËÓ×ÈÒÅ, ÏÎØËÅÒÅ ÁÎËÜØÅ ÄÀÍÍÛÕ ÏÐÎÃÐÀÌÌ, ÄËß ÒÎÃÎ ×ÒÎÁÛ ÈÕ ÏÎËÓ×ÈÒÜ! Ìîé øàã ê ïîëó÷åíèþ 50.000,- USD çà 90 äíåé áûë ñäåëàí. Äî 30 ÿíâàðÿ 1999 ÿ ïîëó÷èë 196 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #2. Âàøåé öåëüþ ÿâëÿåòñÿ ïîëó÷èòü ìèíèìàëüíî 100 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #2 â òå÷åíèè äâóõ íåäåëü. Åñëè ýòî íå ïîëó÷èòñÿ, òàê ðàññûëàéòå áîëüøå ýòèõ ïðîãðàìì. Êàê òîëüêî äîñòèãíèòå 100 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #2 òî âñå îñòàëüíîå áóäåò â ïîðÿäêå è Âû òî÷íî ïîëó÷èòå ñâîè 50.000,- USD. Ó ìåíÿ áûëî 196 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #2, òî åñòü íà 96 áîëüøå ÷åì ìíå áûëî íóæíî. Ïîýòîìó ÿ ñåë è îòäûõàë. Äî 1 ìàðòà 1999 çà ñâîè 10.000 îòîñëàíûõ e-mail ÿ ïîëó÷èë 58.000,- USD è êàæäûé äåíü ïðèõîäèëè íîâûå äåíüãè. ß çàïëàòèë ñâîè äîëãè è êóïèë ñåáå ìàøèíó. Ïîæàëóéñòà, íàéäèòå âðåìÿ è âíèìàòåëüíî ïðî÷èòàéòå ýòó ïðîãðàììó. ÝÒÎ ÍÀÂÑÅÃÄÀ ÈÇÌÅÍÈÒ ÂÀØÓ ÆÈÇÍÜ!!! Ïîìíèòå, ÷òî ýòî íå çàðàáîòàåò, ïîêà âû ýòî íå ïîïðîáóåòå! Ýòà ïðîãðàììà äåéñòâóåò, íî Âû äîëæíû òî÷íî ïðèäåðæèâàòüñÿ ðåêîìåíäàöèé!!

Ñïåöèàëüíîå ïðàâèëî - íå ñòàðàéòåñü âïèñûâàòü Âàøå èìÿ òàì, ãäå ýòî íå íóæíî. Ýòî íå áóäåò äåéñòâîâàòü, à Âû íåäîïîëó÷èòå ìíîãî äåíåã!! Áîëåå òîãî, ïðè èçìåíåíèè äàííûõ ïðîäàâöîâ èíà÷å, ÷åì ýòî óêàçàíî â èíñòðóêöèè íèæå, äàííûé âèä ïðåäïðèíèìàòåëüñòâà ñòàíîâèòñÿ íåëåãàëüíûì. Ñíîâà ïîâòîðÿþ, ÷òî â ñëó÷àå ñîáëþäåíèÿ âñåõ íèæåóêàçàííûõ ðåêîìåíäàöèé, ðå÷ü èäåò î ëåãàëüíîì ïðåäïðèíèìàòåëüñòâå!! Äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû âû äîñòèãëè ñâîåé öåëè íåîáõîäèìî ïîëó÷èòü 20 è áîëüøå çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #1 è 100 è áîëüøå íà REPORT #2.  ýòîì ñëó÷àå çàðàáîòàåòå 50.000,- USD (èëè áîëüøå) çà 90 äíåé! ß - ÐÅÀËÜÍÎÅ ÄÎÊÀÇÀÒÅËÜÑÒÂÎ ÒÎÃÎ, ×ÒÎ ÝÒÎ ÍÀ ÑÀÌÎÌ ÄÅËÅ ÄÅÉÑÒÂÓÅÒ!!! Åñëè âû ðåøèëèñü, ÷òî â ýòîé ïðîãðàììå ó÷àñòâîâàòü íå áóäåòå, òàê ìíå âàñ èñêðåííå æàëü. Òàê êàê ýòî ðåàëüíàÿ ïðåâîñõîäíàÿ âîçìîæíîñòü ñ ìèíèìàëüíûì ðèñêîì è èíâåñòèöèÿìè! Åñëè õîòèòå ó÷àñòâîâàòü, ïðèäåðæèâàéòåñü äàííûõ ðåêîìåíäàöèé è áóäåòå íà äîðîãå ê ôèíàíñîâîé íåçàâèñèìîñòè. Åñëè çàíèìàåòåñü ïðåäïðèíèìàòåëüñòâîì èëè õîòèòå íà÷àòü ñâîé ñîáñòâåííûé áèçíåñ, òàê ñ÷èòàéòå ýòî çà õîðîøóþ âîçìîæíîñòü. ß ÝÒÎ ÑÄÅËÀË !!!

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Ïåðåä òåì êàê ïðî÷èòàåòå ýòó ïðîãðàììó, âû äîëæíû ïîíÿòü, ÷òî ýòà ëåãàëüíàÿ ïðîãðàììà íå ìîãëà áûëà áûòü ñîçäàíà ëþáèòåëåì. Ïîçâîëüòå ìíå íåìíîãî ðàññêàçàòü î ñåáå. Öåëûõ 10 ëåò ó ìåíÿ áûë ñîáñòâåííûé ðàçâèâàþùèéñÿ áèçíåñ.  1979 ãîäó ìîé áèçíåñ íà÷àë ðóøèòüñÿ. ß äåëàë âñå, ÷òî ìíå äî ýòîãî ïðèíîñèëî óñïåõ, íî áåçóñïåøíî. Íàêîíåö ÿ ïîíÿë, ÷òî ýòî íå èç-çà ìåíÿ, à èç-çà ýêîíîìèêè, êîòîðàÿ íàñ ñîïðîâîæäàëà ñ 1945 ãîäà. Äóìàþ íå íóæíî Âàì îáúÿñíÿòü, êàê ýòî ïîâëèÿëî íà áåçðàáîòèöó â ñòðàíå, ìíîãèå èç Âàñ ýòî çíàþò ïî ñîáñòâåííîìó îïûòó. Ïðèøëî ìíîãî ïàäåíèé è áàíêðîòîâ. Ñðåäíèé êëàññ èñ÷åçàë, òå, êîòîðûå çíàëè ÷òî äåëàþò, ìóäðî èíâåñòèðîâàëè è ïðîäâèíóëèñü âûøå, à òå êòî íå çíàë, ïàäàëè âñå íèæå, â áåäíîòó. Êàê ãîâîðèò èçâåñòíàÿ ïîãîâîðêà: "ÁÎÃÀÒÛÅ ÁÎÃÀÒÅÞÒ, À ÁÅÄÍÛÅ ÁÅÄÍÅÞÒ". Òðàäèöèîííûå ñïîñîáû çàðàáîòêà äåíåã íèêîãäà íå ïîçâîëÿò Âàì âûñîêî ïîäíÿòüñÿ, à èíôëÿöèÿ òîëüêî ýòîìó ïîìîæåò. Ñåé÷àñ âû ïîëó÷èëè ïèñüìî, êîòîðîå ìîæåò äàòü Âàì ôèíàíñîâóþ íåçàâèñèìîñòü íà âñþ Âàøó æèçíü è "ÁÅÇ ÐÈÑÊÀ" è ñ "ÌÈÍÈÌÀËÜÍÛÌÈ ÓÑÈËÈßÌÈ".  ïîñëåäóþùèõ ìåñÿöàõ Âû ñìîæåòå çàðàáîòàòü äåíåã áîëüøå, ÷åì ìîæåòå ñåáå ïðåäñòàâèòü. Íóæíî ïîä÷åðêíóòü, ÷òî ÿ ñ ýòèõ äåíåã íå óâèæó íè öåíòà. Êàê è íèêòî èç ëþäåé, êîòîðûå òåñòèðîâàëè äàííóþ ïðîãðàììó. ß óæå çàðàáîòàë áîëåå 4.000.000,- USD!!! Ïåðåñòàë èñïîëüçîâàòü ýòó ïðîãðàììó ïîñëå òîãî, êàê ïîñëàë 16.000 ïðîãðàìì. Ñåé÷àñ ó ìåíÿ íåñêîëüêî ôèðì, êîòîðûå èçîáðåòàþò ïîäîáíûå ïðîãðàììû. Âûïîëíÿéòå ïðîãðàììó ÒÎ×ÍÎ ÏÎ ÈÍÑÒÐÓÊÖÈÈ!! Íå èçìåíÿéòå åå íèêàêèì îáðàçîì!! Îíà äåéñòâóåò ìàêñèìàëüíî ýôôåêòèâíî èìåííî â ýòîì âèäå. Íå çàáóäüòå ïîñëàòü êîïèþ ýòîé ïðîãðàììû êàæäîìó, êîãî òîëüêî âñïîìíèòå! Îäèí ÷åëîâåê, êîòîðîìó âû ýòî ïîøëåòå ìîæåò ïîñëàòü è 50.000 êîïèé ... à Âàøå èìÿ áóäåò íà êàæäîé èç íèõ!!! Ïîìíèòå, ÷òî ÷åì áîëüøå ïðîãðàìì âû ïîøëåòå, òåì áîëüøå ïîòåíöèàëüíûõ çàêàç÷èêîâ ïðèîáðåòåòå! Òàê ÷òî, äðóçüÿ, ÿ ïðåäîñòàâëÿþ Âàì âîçìîæíîñòü, èíôîðìàöèþ, ìàòåðèàë äëÿ òîãî ÷òîáû âû ïîëó÷èëè ôèíàíñîâóþ íåçàâèñèìîñòü. ÒÅÏÅÐÜ ÝÒÎ ÇÀÂÈÑÈÒ ÒÎËÜÊÎ ÎÒ ÂÀÑ! "ÏÎÄÓÌÀÉÒÅ ÎÁ ÝÒÎÌ" ïåðåä òåì êàê óäàëèòå ýòîò mail, êàê ÷óòü íå ñäåëàë ÿ. Îòâåäèòå ñåáå íåìíîãî âðåìåíè, ïðî÷òèòå è ïî-íàñòîÿùåìó ïîäóìàéòå íàä ýòèì.

Âîçüìèòå ðó÷êó è ïîñ÷èòàéòå, ÷òî ìîæåò èç ýòîãî ïîëó÷èòüñÿ, åñëè Âû ýòî ïîïðîáóåòå. Âîçüìèòå ñàìûé ïëîõîé âàðèàíò, íî è â ýòîì ñëó÷àå ó âàñ áóäåò ìíîãî äåíåã.  ñàìîì õóäøåì ñëó÷àå ïîëó÷èòå ñâîþ èíâåñòèöèþ íàçàä. Âñå ñîìíåíèÿ, êîòîðûå ó âàñ åñòü, èñ÷åçíóò, êîãäà ïîëó÷èòå ñâîé ïåðâûé çàêàç. ÝÒÎ ÄÅÉÑÒÂÓÅÒ!!!!!

Jody Jacobs, Richmond,VA.

À ÒÅÏÅÐÜ, ÂÎÒ ÝÒÀ ÏÅÐÂÎÑÕÎÄÍÀß ÏÐÎÃÐÀÌÌÀ, ÊÎÒÎÐÀß ÂÀÌ ÇÀÐÀÁÎÒÀÅÒ ÒÛÑß×È ÄÎËËÀÐÎÂ!!!!!

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ÈÍÑÒÐÓÊÖÈß : Ýòîò ìåòîä çàðàáîòêà äåíåã íà ñàìîì äåëå ÄÅÉÑÒÂÓÅÒ ÍÀ 100%, ÊÎÃÄÀ ÓÃÎÄÍÎ, ÃÄÅ ÓÃÎÄÍÎ. ß óâåðåí, ÷òî Âû ñìîæåòå çàðàáîòàòü áîëåå 50.000,- USD â ïîñëåäóþùèå 90 äíåé. Ïåðåä òåì êàê ñêàçàòü "ãëóïîñòü..." ïîæàëóéñòà ïðî÷èòàéòå âíèìàòåëüíî è âíèêíèòå â ñóòü ýòîé ïðîãðàììû. Ýòî íå öåïíîå ïèñüìî, à îòëè÷íàÿ ëåãàëüíàÿ âîçìîæíîñòü çàðàáîòàòü äåíüãè.  ÷åì ñìûñë? Òàê êàê è â ëþáîé multi-level ñõåìå, òîðãîâëÿ ñòðîèòñÿ íà ïðèâëå÷åíèè íîâûõ ïàðòíåðîâ è ïðîäàæå ñâîèõ òîâàðîâ. ÇÀÊÀÇÛ Ê ÂÀÌ ÏÐÈÕÎÄßÒ È ÂÛÏÎËÍßÞÒÑß ÏÎ E-MAIL, ïîýòîìó íå âîçíèêàåò ëè÷íîãî êîíòàêòà. Äåëàåòñÿ âñå äîìà èëè â ó÷ðåæäåíèè. Ýòî ñàìàÿ áîëüøàÿ multi-level âîçìîæíîñòü íà ñâåòå!!!!! È ÝÒÎ ÍÅ ÏÐÅÓÂÅËÈ×ÅÍÈÅ!!

 

Ñóùåñòâóåò äâà îñíîâíûõ ìåòîäà äëÿ ñòðîèòåëüñòâà âàøèõ íèæíèõ óðîâíåé:

Ìåòîä #1- ÏÎÑÛËÊÀ ÌÀÑÑÎÂÎÉ E-MAIL ÐÅÊËÀÌÛ

Ïðåäïîëîæèì, íàïðèìåð, ÷òî Âû õîòèòå íà÷àòü ñ ìàëîãî êîëè÷åñòâà, òîëüêî äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû ïîñìîòðåòü êàê ýòî äåéñòâóåò. Äîïóñòèì, ÷òî Âû è âñå âîâëå÷åííûå Âàìè êîìïàíüîíû ïîøëåòå òîëüêî 2.000 e-mail (êàæäûé èç Âàñ). Òàêæå ïðåäïîëîæèì, ÷òî ïîëó÷èòå âñåãî 0,5% îòâåòîâ. Åñëè èñïîëüçóåòå õîðîøèé ïåðå÷åíü àäðåñîâ òî 1%. Ïîòîì ìíîãî ëþäåé ðàçîøëþò óæå ñîòíè òûñÿ÷ ýòèõ ïðîãðàìì, áëàãîäàðÿ âàøèì 2.000. Ïðîäîëæèì íàø ïðèìåð, âû ïîñëàëè 2.000 ïðîãðàìì. Èç 0,5% îòâåòîâ ýòî òîëüêî 10 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #1. Ýòèõ äåñÿòü ÷åëîâåê ïîñëàëî 20.000 ïðîãðàìì, ÷òî ïðè 0,5% - óæå 100 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #2. Êàæäûé èç ýòèõ 100 ïîñëàëè ïî 2.000 ïðîãðàìì, à Âû ïîëó÷èëè 1.000 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #3, à åñëè êàæäûé èç ýòèõ 1.000 ïîøëåò 2.000 ñâîèõ ïðîãðàìì, òàê ïðè 0,5% ïîëó÷èòå 10.000 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #4. À ýòî 10.000 õ 5 = 50.000 USD â íàëè÷íîñòè!!!!! Âàø êîíå÷íûé çàðàáîòîê â ýòîì ñëó÷àå áóäåò: 50+500+5.000+50.000 = 55.550,- USD!!!!!!! Ïîìíèòå, ÷òî ýòî ïðåäïîëîæåíèå äëÿ 1990 ÷åëîâåê. Òå, êîòîðûå íå çàõîòÿò ó÷àñòâîâàòü, ýòó âîçìîæíîñòü óäàëÿò, è íè÷åãî íå ñëó÷èòñÿ! Ïîïðîáóéòå ïîäóìàòü ìèíóòêó! À ÷òî åñëè êàæäûé ïîøëåò 100.000 ïðîãðàìì âìåñòî 2.000 ?! Âåðüòå ìíå, ÷òî ëþäè ýòî ñäåëàþò, âîçìîæíî è áîëüøå! Ìåæäó ïðî÷èì, Âàø ôèíàíñîâûé âêëàä ÿâëÿåòñÿ ìèíèìàëüíûì... Âû óæå èìååòå ïîäêëþ÷åíèå ê Èíòåðíåò, à e-mail - áåñïëàòåí!

REPORT #2 Âàì ïîêàæåò ñàìûå ëó÷øèå ìåòîäû ìàññîâîé ðàññûëêè e-mail è ãäå ìîæíî íàéòè ïåðå÷åíü àäðåñîâ.

ÌÅÒÎÄ #2 - ÁÅÑÏËÀÒÍÀß ÐÅÊËÀÌÀ Â ÈÍÒÅÐÍÅÒÅ

Ðåêëàìà â Èíòåðíåòå ÿâëÿåòñÿ íåòðåáîâàòåëüíîé è ñóùåñòâóåò òûñÿ÷à ÁÅÑÏËÀÒÍÛÕ ìåñò äëÿ ðåêëàìû. Ñêàæåì, íàïðèìåð, ÷òî âû íà÷íåòå ñêðîìíî, òîëüêî äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû óçíàòü äåéñòâóåò ëè ýòî. Âàøåé öåëüþ áû áûëî íàéòè âñåãî ëèøü 10 ÷åëîâåê íà ïåðâûé óðîâåíü òî åñòü òåõ, êòî çàêàçàë áû ó Âàñ REPORT#1 (ðàçìåùåíèåì áåñïëàòíûõ îáúÿâëåíèé â Èíòåðíåò ëåãêî íàéòè è áîëüøåå êîëè÷åñòâî çàêàçîâ).

Äàëüøå ïðåäïîëîæèì, ÷òî êàæäûé èç Âàøåé îðãàíèçàöèè íàéäåò òîëüêî 10 ÷åëîâåê. Ïîñìîòðèì íà ïðèìåðå è óâèäèì, ÷òî ïðîèçîéäåò:

  2. 1-é level - âàøèõ 10 êëèåíòîâ ïî 5 USD.............................50,- USD.
  3. 2-é level - ïî 10 êëèåíòîâ îò òåõ 10-òè (5,- USD x 100) ........ 500,- USD.
  4. 3-é level - ýòî óæå 1.000 êëèåíòîâ (5,- USD x 1.000) ........5.000,- USD.
  5. 4-é level - 10.000 êëèåíòîâ (5,- USD x 10.000) ............... 50.000,- USD.

Èòîãî 55.550,- USD.

Ïîìíèòå, ÷òî ýòî òîëüêî ïðèìåð äëÿ 10 êëèåíòîâ. Ìíîãèå ëþäè íàéäóò ñîòíè êëèåíòîâ!!! ÏÎÄÓÌÀÉÒÅ ÎÁ ÝÒÎÌ!!! Âñå, ÷òî âû äîëæíû ñäåëàòü, çà êàæäûå $5 USD, êîòîðûå ïîëó÷èòå â ñâîé êîøåëåê - ýòî ïîñëàòü ïîêóïàòåëþ çàêàçàííûé REPORT. È ÝÒÎ ÂÑÅ!!! ÂÑÅÃÄÀ ÎÒÏÐÀÂËßÉÒÅ ÇÀÊÀÇÛ Â ÒÎÒ ÄÅÍÜ, ÊÎÃÄÀ ÎÍÈ ÏÐÈÉÄÓÒ!!! Ýòî Âàì ãàðàíòèðóåò, ÷òî e-mail, êîòîðûå áóäóò ïîñûëàòü ñ ÂÀØÈÌ èìåíåì, áóäóò áûñòðåå ðàñïðîñòðàíÿòüñÿ, ïîòîìó ÷òî îíè íå ìîãóò áûòü ïîñëàíû ïîêà REPORT's íåò ó âàøåãî çàêàç÷èêà!!!

ÈÒÀÊ, ÄÎÑÒÓÏÍÛÅ REPORT's:

****** Çàêàæè ñåáå êàæäûé èç íèõ ñîãëàñíî íîìåðó è íàçâàíèþ ******

 

ÇÀÊÀÆÈÒÅ ÑÅÁÅ REPORT's ÑÅÉ×ÀÑ !!!

 

Òàáëèöà 1. REPORT's è ðåêâèçèòû ïðîäàâöîâ.

¹ Ïåðå÷åíü REPORT's R- è Z- êîøåëüêè ïðîäàâöà E-mail ïðîäàâöà
1 REPORT #1 "Ðóêîâîäñòâî ïî áåñïëàòíîé è ýôôåêòèâíîé ðåêëàìå â Èíòåðíåò" R871542342557

Z469857407500

 WM_13@yahoo.com
2 REPORT #2 "Ðóêîâîäñòâî ïî ìàññîâîé ðåêëàìíîé ðàññûëêå E-Mail " R803112125203

Z460897718401

 verysimplejob@yahoo.com
3 REPORT #3 "Ñåêðåòû ìíîãîóðîâíåâîãî ìàðêåòèíãà â Èíòåðíåò" R916511407235

Z601004161913

 poul007@narod.ru
4 REPORT #4 "Êàê ñòàòü ìèëëèîíåðîì, èñïîëüçóÿ MLM è Èíòåðíåò" R117465742973

Z095492416150

 asebo@mail.ru

Ñ ëþáûì èç ïðîäàâöîâ âñåãäà ìîæíî ñâÿçàòüñÿ ÷åðåç åãî e-mail. Íî, ïîæàëóéñòà, íå çàãðóæàéòå èõ ëèøíèìè âîïðîñàìè, îíè ìîãóò áûòü î÷åíü çàíÿòû îáðàáîòêîé çàêàçîâ (îñîáåííî íà òðåòüåì è ÷åòâåðòûõ óðîâíÿõ).

ÂÎÒ, ×ÒÎ ÍÓÆÍÎ ÑÄÅËÀÒÜ ÂÀÌ:

1. Ñêîïèðîâàòü ïðîãðàììó WebMoney keeper 2 è ñîçäàòü ñåáå ðóáëåâûé R-êîøåëåê.

Èíñòðóêöèè ïî ðàáîòå ñ êîøåëüêîì è èíôîðìàöèÿ îá ýòîé ñèñòåìå ïëàòåæåé

íà ñàéòå http://www.webmoney.ru

2. Ïîïîëíèòü ÑÂÎÉ êîøåëåê ðóáëåâûì ýêâèâàëåíòîì $20 + 3% ïî êóðñó ÖÁ, âûáðàâ

ëþáîé èç äîñòóïíûõ íà http://www.webmoney.ru/rus/perevods.htm ñïîñîáîâ ïåðåâîäà.

3. Ïîñëå ïîñòóïëåíèÿ äåíåã â âàø êîøåëåê, çàêàæèòå ñåáå âñå ÷åòûðå REPORT's

(èç ïåðå÷íÿ Òàáëèöû 1), ïóòåì ïåðåâîäà WebMoney èç ñâîåãî êîøåëüêà â êîøåëåê

ïðîäàâöà, ñóììû $5 ÑØÀ ïî êóðñó ÖÁ, çà êàæäûé REPORT. Îáÿçàòåëüíî, óêàæèòå

â ïîëå êîììåíòàðèÿ íîìåð REPORT è îáðàòíûé e-mail àäðåñ.

Ïðèìåð: REPORT#1 xxxxxx@xxxx.xxx

(Ïîäòâåðäèòå îïëàòó ïî e-mail)

4. Â Òàáëèöå 1, óäàëèòå íîìåð êîøåëüêà èç ñòðîêè 4 è ïåðåìåñòèòå íà åãî ìåñòî

íîìåð êîøåëüêà èç ñòðîêè 3. Çàòåì, ïåðåìåñòèòå íîìåð êîøåëüêà èç ñòðîêè 2

â îñâîáîäèâøååñÿ ìåñòî â ñòîðîêå 3. È, íàêîíåö, ïåðåìåñòèòå íîìåð êîøåëüêà èç

ñòðîêè 1 â ñòðîêó 2.

 îñâîáîäèâøååñÿ ìåñòî â ñòðîêå 1 âñòàâüòå íîìåð ñâîåãî R- êîøåëüêà.

Òåïåðü Âû ñòàëè ïðîäàâöîì REPORT#1.

5. Òîæå ñàìîå ïðîäåëàéòå ñ e-mail àäðåñàìè.

  • ÏÐÈÌÅ×ÀÍÈÅ:

    *Çà êàæäûé REPORT ïåðåâåäèòå ðóáëåâûé ýêâèâàëåíò $5 USD ïî êóðñó ÖÁ, ñî ñâîåãî êîøåëüêà íà íîìåð êîøåëüêà ïðîäàâöà. (USD ïîòîìó, ÷òî â ýòî âîâëå÷åíû æåëàþùèå ñî âñåãî ñâåòà). Âñå îïåðàöèè îò ñîçäàíèÿ êîøåëüêà äî îïëàòû REPORT's ïðîèçâîäÿòñÿ â ïðîãðàììå WebMoney Keeper.

    *Â êîøåëüêå, äåíüãè õðàíÿòñÿ â âèäå óñëîâíûõ åäèíèö (WebMoney).

    Ïî êóðñó 1WM = 1 ðóá. äëÿ R- êîøåëüêà

    1WM = 1 äîëëàð ÑØÀ äëÿ Z- êîøåëüêà.

    *Êîãäà ñäåëàåòå ñâîé çàêàç, óáåäèòåñü, ÷òî âû çàêàçàëè âñå REPORT. Âñå îíè ïîíàäîáÿòñÿ äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû Âû ñîõðàíèëè ó ñåáÿ â êîìïüþòåðå è, ïîòîì, ìîãëè ïðîäàâàòü êîïèè. Âàì äåéñòâèòåëüíî íóæíû âñå ýòè REPORT, èíà÷å ëþäè íå ñìîãóò ñäåëàòü ó âàñ çàêàç, à ñàìîå ãëàâíîå, ýòè REPORT's ñîäåðæàò âàæíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ î òîì, êàê èì äîñòè÷ü óñïåõà!! È ðàçâèâàòü ýòîò áèçíåññ.

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    Ïðèáëèçèòåëüíî 50.000 íîâûõ ëþäåé ïîäêëþ÷àþòñÿ ê Èíòåðíåòó êàæäûé ìåñÿö!

  • Ïðîâåðüòå, îñîáåííî âíèìàòåëüíî, ïðàâèëüíîñòü óêàçàíèÿ íîìåðà êîøåëüêà ïðè ïåðåâîäå. Ýòî î÷åíü âàæíî, òàê êàê ïîêà íå çàïëàòèòå ïðàâèëüíî, çàêàç íå ïðèäåò, à Âû íå ïîëó÷èòå ñâîé report. Íàéäèòå âðåìÿ, ÷òîáû âû ñìîãëè ñäåëàòü âñå ïðàâèëüíî è íå òîðîïÿñü, ïîòîìó ÷òî ýòî îñíîâà Âàøåãî áèçíåñà.

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    *Ñ×ÈÒÀÉÒÅ ÝÒÎ ÑÂÎÈÌ ÁÈÇÍÅÑÎÌ!!! Áóäüòå áûñòðûìè, ïðîôåññèîíàëüíûìè è ïðèäåðæèâàéòåñü èíñòðóêöèé.

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    * ÂÑÅÃÄÀ ÎÒÏÐÀÂËßÉÒÅ ÇÀÊÀÇÛ Â ÒÎÒ ÄÅÍÜ ÊÎÃÄÀ ÎÍÈ ÏÐÈÉÄÓÒ!!!!

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    Ïðèäåðæèâàéòåñü ýòèõ ðÿäîâ è ó âàñ âñå ïîëó÷èòüñÿ: Åñëè íå ïîëó÷èòå 20 çàêàçîâ íà Report #1 â òå÷åíèè äâóõ íåäåëü, ïðîäîëæàéòå äåëàòü ðåêëàìó è ïîñûëàòü e-mail, äî òåõ ïîð, ïîêà èõ íå ïîëó÷èòå. Ïîòîì âû â òå÷åíèè íåñêîëüêèõ íåäåëü Âû äîëæíû ïîëó÷èòü çàêàçû íà Report #2. Åñëè ýòî íå ïðîèçîéäåò, íå ïåðåñòàâàéòå ïîñûëàòü ðåêëàìó äî òåõ ïîð, ïîêà íå äîñòèãíèòå 100 çàêàçîâ íà Report #2. Êàê òîëüêî ïîëó÷èòå 100 çàêàçîâ íà Report #2, ÌÎÆÅÒÅ ÍÀ×ÀÒÜ ÎÒÄÛÕÀÒÜ, ïîòîìó ÷òî ñèñòåìà â ýòîì ñëó÷àå óæå ðàáîòàåò çà Âàñ à Âàøè äåíüãè áóäóò ïðèõîäèòü ñàìè ïî ñåáå.

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    Ýòà ïðîãðàììà äåéñòâóåò, íî âû äîëæíû òî÷íî èñïîëíÿòü èíñòðóêöèè! ÃËÀÂÍÎÅ ÍÅ ÏÎÌÅÙÀÉÒÅ ÂÀØÅ ÈÌß ÍÀ ÄÐÓÃÓÞ ÏÎÇÈÖÈÞ, ÝÒÎ ÎÁÎÉÄÅÒÑß ÂÀÌ ÁÎËÜØÎÉ ÏÎÒÅÐÅÉ ÄÅÍÅÃ, ÝÒÎ ÏÐÎÑÒÎ ÍÅ ÄÅÉÑÒÂÓÅÒ!!!

    ß - ðåàëüíîå äîêàçàòåëüñòâî ðàáîòîñïîñîáíîñòè ýòîãî áèçíåñà. Ýòî äåéñòâèòåëüíî ïðåâîñõîäíàÿ âîçìîæíîñòü, òàê ðåàëüíî è ëåãêî çàðàáîòàòü äåíüãè ñ ìèíèìàëüíûì âêëàäîì. Åñëè ðåøèòåñü ýòî ïîïðîáîâàòü, ïðèäåðæèâàéòåñü èíñòðóêöèé ïðîãðàììû è áóäåòå íà ëó÷øåé äîðîãå ê ôèíàíñîâîé íåçàâèñèìîñòè.

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    Ýòà ïðîãðàììà äåéñòâèòåëüíî äåéñòâóåò. Æèâó íå â Àìåðèêå, à â Åâðîïå è ñíà÷àëà ÿ áîÿëñÿ, íå áûë óâåðåí, äåéñòâèòåëüíî ëè ýòî äåéñòâóåò, à ïîòîìó, íå îòíîñèëñÿ ê ýòîìó ñåðüåçíî. À ïîòîì ñêàçàë ñåáå: "À ïî÷åìó íåò?". Ñîçäàë êîøåëåê, ïîïîëíèë åãî , è ñäåëàë ïåðåâîä, çàêàçàâ ñåáå ÷åòûðå Reporty.  òå÷åíèè 5-è äíåé ïîëó÷èë èõ âñåõ ïî e-mail.

    Äîëüøå âñåãî ïðèøëîñü æäàòü Report #4. Íî ýòî è ïîíÿòíî, âåäü ó ïðîäàâöà ýòîãî, ïîñëåäíåãî óðîâíÿ, òûñÿ÷è çàêàçîâ. Âñå ñäåëàë òî÷íî ïî èíñòðóêöèè (÷òîáû áûòü óâåðåííûì, åñëè ýòî äåëî íå çàðàáîòàåò, òî ýòî íå ïðè÷èíà ìîåé îøèáêè) è æäàë. ß âíèìàòåëüíî ïðî÷èòàë âñå ïîëó÷åííûå ðóêîâîäñòâà, à êîãäà óçíàë, êàê âñå íàäî äåëàòü, íà÷àë ñâîé áèçíåñ. ß èñêàë àäðåñà âåçäå è ñäåëàë ñåáå äëèííûé ñïèñîê (ìíå ýòî áûëî äåéñòâèòåëüíî èíòåðåñíî, ýòî áûëî êàê íîâîå õîááè, è ÿ íå ìîã íè÷åãî ïîòåðÿòü), êàê íåíîðìàëüíûé ÿ íà÷àë ïîñûëàòü e-mail ëþäÿì â öåëîì ñâåòå. Äåëàë ÿ ýòî ïîñòîÿííî, è êàæäûé äåíü êîíòðîëèðîâàë ñâîé ïî÷òîâûé ÿùèê è êîøåëåê. Ïðèìåðíî ÷åðåç äåíü íà÷àëè ïðèõîäèòü çàêàçû. Äî ñèõ ïîð ïîìíþ òîò ìîìåíò, êîãäà îáíàðóæèë ïåðâûé çàêàç. Íåêîòîðîå âðåìÿ ÿ ïðîñòî ñòîÿë è íå ìîã äâèãàòüñÿ: "Ýòî ðàáîòàåò! Ýòà øòóêà çàðàáîòàëà ìàòü åå òàê!". Ïðîøó ïðîùåíèÿ çà âûðàæåíèå, íî ß áûë î÷åíü ñ÷àñòëèâ, è íà÷àë ïîñûëàòü åùå áîëüøå e-mail, ïîÿâèëñÿ ñèëüíåéøèé ñòèìóë ê ðàáîòå. Íà ñëåäóþùèé äåíü - ïóñòîé ÿùèê è ñíîâà ÿ ïîäóìàë, ÷òî ýòî íå áóäåò ðàáîòàòü, íî îêàçàëîñü íàîáîðîò. Íà ñëåäóþùèé äåíü ÿ ïîëó÷èë 3 çàêàçà, â òîò æå ìîìåíò ÿ ïîñëàë ëþäÿì èõ reporty, ÷òîáû ìîãëè òîæå áûñòðî çàðàáîòàòü äåíüãè (äëÿ ñåáÿ è äëÿ ìåíÿ). Çà äâå íåäåëè, êàæäûé äåíü ÿ ñèäåë ïðèìåðíî 30 ìèíóò ó êîìïüþòåðà è ïîñûëàë çàêàçû.  òå÷åíèè äâóõ íåäåëü ÿ ïîëó÷èë 29 çàêàçîâ íà Report #1. Ïîòîì çàêàçû ñòàëè ïðèõîäèòü ÷àùå è áûñòðåå, êàæäóþ íåäåëþ ÿ ïîëó÷àë îêîëî ñòà çàêàçîâ, a äåíüãè âñå ïîñòóïàëè íà ìîé ñ÷åò.  öåëîì ÿ çàðàáîòàë îêîëî 64.000,- USD.  ÝÒÎ ÍÅ ÂÎÇÌÎÆÍÎ ÁÛËÎ ÏÎÂÅÐÈÒÜ! Íà ïðîøëîé íåäåëå ÿ êóïèë ñåáå íîâóþ òà÷êó è ýòî áëàãîäàðÿ ïðîãðàììå. Åñëè è òåïåðü Âû íå çíàåòå, ÷òî äåëàòü, òàê ÿ Âàì ãîâîðþ

    Ï_Î_Ï_Ð_Î_Á_Ó_É_Ò_Å è íå ïîæàëååòå. Ýòî Âàø øàíñ, åñëè åãî óïóñòèòå, òàê áóäåòå æàëåòü îá ýòîì äî êîíöà æèçíè!

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    Ãëàâíûì äîâîäîì ýòîãî ïèñüìà ÿâëÿåòñÿ òî, ÷òîáû óáåäèë âàñ, ÷òî ýòî ÷åñòíàÿ, ëåãàëüíàÿ, ïðèáûëüíàÿ ñèñòåìà äëÿ çàðàáàòûâàíèÿ áîëüøèõ äåíåã çà êîðîòêîå âðåìÿ. ß òîëüêî ïîïðîáîâàë, ÷òîáû óçíàòü, ÷òî ìîæíî ïîëó÷èòü âçàìåí çà ìèíèìàëüíûé âêëàä è ñòàðàíèå. Ê ìîåìó óäèâëåíèþ ÿ ïîëó÷èë 3.470,- USD çà ïåðâûõ 14 äíåé à îñòàëüíûå äåíüãè âñå åùå ïðèõîäÿò!!!

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    Òàê êàê ÿ íå ÿâëÿþñü òèïîì àçàðòíîãî èãðîêà, ïðîøëî íåñêîëüêî íåäåëü, ïåðåä òåì êàê ÿ ðåøèë ïîïðîáîâàòü. ß ïðèøåë ê âûâîäó, ÷òî 20,- USD ýòî òàêîé ìàëåíüêèé âêëàä, ÷òî ïðîñòî èñêëþ÷åíî, ÷òîáû ÿ íå íàøåë õîòÿ áû íåñêîëüêî çàêàçîâ, äëÿ âîçâðàòà ñâîåé èíâåñòèöèè. Áîæå, êàê ÿ áûë óäèâëåí, êîãäà óâèäåë ñâîé êîøåëåê, ïîëíûé çàêàçîâ! Çà íåêîòîðîå âðåìÿ èõ ïîñòóïèëî ñòîëüêî, ÷òî ÿ áûë âûíóæäåí âçÿòü îòïóñê íà ðàáîòå. Çà ýòîò ãîä ÿ çàðàáîòàë áîëüøå äåíåã, ÷åì çà ïîñëåäíèå äåñÿòü ëåò! Ñàìîå ïðåêðàñíîå â òîì, ÷òî íåâàæíî ãäå ëþäè æèâóò. Ýòî ïðîñòî - ñàìàÿ ëó÷øàÿ èíâåñòèöèÿ ñ î÷åíü áûñòðûì îáîðîòîì.

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    Ó÷àñòâóþ â ýòîé ïðîãðàììå óæ â òðåòèé ðàç. Ìû óøëè ñ ðàáîòû, à ÷åðåç íåêîòîðîå âðåìÿ êóïèëè ñåáå äîì íà ïëÿæå è áóäåì æèòü íå äóìàÿ î äåíüãàõ. Åñòü òîëüêî îäèí ñïîñîá íà Çåìëå, ÷òîáû çàñòàâèòü èñïîëíÿòüñÿ ñâîè ïëàíû - ÝÒÎ ÍÀ×ÀÒÜ ÂÛÏÎËÍßÒÜ ÈÕ. Ðàäè Áîãà, íå ïðîïóñòèòå ýòó ÇÎËÎÒÓÞ âîçìîæîñòü!!! Ìíîãî ñ÷àñòüÿ è ïðèÿòíîé òðàòû äåíåã!

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Òàêæå, ââèäó åãî ïîïóëÿðíîñòè â Èíòåðíåòå, ãëàâíàÿ íî÷íàÿ èíôîðìàöèîííàÿ ïðîãðàììà ïîñâåòèëà åìó öåëóþ ïåðåäà÷ó íà îáúÿñíåíèå è âûÿñíåíèå, äåéñòâèòåëüíî ëè íèæå îïèñàííàÿ ïðîãðàììà ìîæåò ïðèíåñòè ëþäÿì äåíüãè. Òàêæå ïðîâåäåíî èññëåäîâàíèå ëåãàëüíîñòè äàííîé ïðîãðàììû.  ðåçóëüòàòå êîòîðîãî, ðàç è íàâñåãäà ïîäòâåðäèëîñü, ÷òî íå íàðóøàþòñÿ íèêàêèå çàêîíû è ïîñòàíîâëåíèÿ. Ýòî ïîìîãëî ïîêàçàòü ëþäÿì, ÷òî ýòî ïðîñòîé, áåçâðåäíûé è èíòåðåñíûé ñïîñîá çàðàáîòêà äåíåã íà äîìó. Âû ïîéìåòå ñóòü, êàê òîëüêî ïðî÷èòàåòå ýòî ðóêîâîäñòâî.     Íàïå÷àòàéòå ýòîò äîêóìåíò ñåé÷àñ, äëÿ ïîñëåäóþùåãî ÷òåíèÿ. (Èíôîðìàöèÿ òðåáóåò âíèìàòåëüíîãî ïðî÷òåíèÿ) Ñëåäóþùàÿ âîçìîæíîñòü, ïðèíîñèò äîõîä , è ìîæåò Âàñ çàèíòåðåñîâàòü. Åñòü âîçìîæíîñòü åå íà÷àòü ñ ìèíèìàëüíûìè èíâåñòèöèÿìè, à äîõîä ïðîñòî ÏÎÐÀÇÈÒÅËÜÍÛÉ!!!!! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Õîòèòå çàðàáîòàòü 50.000,- USD ìåíüøå ÷åì çà 90 äíåé!? Ïîæàëóéñòà, ïðî÷èòàéòå äàííóþ ïðîãðàììó, ñíà÷àëà ÿ ýòîìó òîæå íå âåðèë, îäíàêî ýòî òàê!!! À ïîòîì ïðî÷èòàéòå ýòî ÅÙÅ ÐÀÇ! $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ ÝÒÎ ËÅÃÀËÜÍÀß ÂÎÇÌÎÆÍÎÑÒÜ ÇÀÐÀÁÎÒÀÒÜ ÄÅÍÜÃÈ !!! !!! Ýòî íå òðåáóåò, ÷òîáû âû âñòðå÷àëèñü ñ ëþäüìè (êàê âî ìíîãèõ äðóãèõ ïîäîáíûõ ïðåäëîæåíèÿõ)!!! Ìîæåòå ðàáîòàòü ñâîèì òåìïîì. Ñàìîå ëó÷øåå ýòî òî, ÷òî íåò íåîáõîäèìîñòè ïîêèäàòü ñâîé äîì. Åñëè âû âåðèòå, ÷òî êîãäà-íèáóäü, â îäèí ïðåêðàñíûé äåíü, ó Âàñ ïîÿâèòüñÿ âîçìîæíîñòü äîëãî îòäûõàòü, òàê ýòo, èìåííî, è åñòü òàêàÿ ÂÎÇÌÎÆÍÎÑÒÜ!!!!! Ïðîñòî, ñëåäóéòå äàííîé èíñòðóêöèè, è Âàø ñîí èñïîëíèòñÿ. Ýòîò áèçíåñ - Multi-level-E-MAIL òîðãîâëÿ ïî çàêàçàì, ïðîãðàììà äåéñòâóåò ïðåâîñõîäíî íà 100% è êîãäà è ãäå óãîäíî. E-mail ÿâëÿåòñÿ òîðãîâûì èíñòðóìåíòîì áóäóùåãî!!! Èñïîëüçóéòå ýòîò íåêîììåð÷åñêèé ìåòîä ðåêëàìû. Ñäåëàéòå ýòî ñåé÷àñ!!! ×åì äîëüøå áóäåòå æäàòü, òåì áîëüøå ëþäåé áóäåò äåëàòü ýòîò áèçíåññ. Âîçüìèòå ñåáå ÷àñòü ÝÒÎÉ ÀÊÖÈÈ!! MULTI-LEVEL-MARKETING (MLM) íàêîíåö-òî äîñòèã óâàæåíèÿ. Îí ïðåïîäàåòñÿ â Ãàðâàðäñêîé òîðãîâîé øêîëå. Ñòýíôîðäñêèé èññëåäîâàòåëüñêèé èíñòèòóò è æóðíàë Wall Street çàÿâèëè, ÷òî 50-65% âñåõ òîâàðîâ è óñëóã äî êîíöà òûñÿ÷åëåòèÿ áóäóò ïðîäàâàòüñÿ ïîñðåäñòâîì multi-level ìåòîäîâ. Ýòî ìíîãî ìèëëèàðäíàÿ äîëëàðîâàÿ èíäóñòðèÿ, è òîëüêî èç 500,000 ìèëëèîíåðîâ â ÑØÀ, öåëûõ 20% (100.000 ÷åëîâåê) ñäåëàëè ñâîå ñîñòîÿíèå çà ïîñëåäíèå ïàðó ëåò áëàãîäàðÿ MLM. À åùå, ñòàòèñòèêà ïîêàçûâàåò, ÷òî 45 ÷åëîâåê êàæäûé äåíü ñòàíîâÿòñÿ ìèëëèîíåðàìè áëàãîäàðÿ Multi-Level-Marketing. Âîçìîæíî, ÷òî âû óæå ñëûøàëè èñòîðèþ, êàê Äîíàëüä Òðàìï ëåòîì íàâåñòèë øîó Äåâèäà Ëåòòåðìàíà. Äåâèä ñïðîñèë åãî, ÷òîáû îí äåëàë åñëè áû ïîòåðÿë âñå ñâîå ñîñòîÿíèå è âûíóæäåí áûë íà÷àòü âñå ñ íà÷àëà. Äîíàëüä áåç êîëåáàíèÿ îòâåòèë, ÷òî íàøåë áû õîðîøóþ MLM ôèðìó è íà÷àë ðàáîòàòü. Ïóáëèêà íà÷àëà ñâèñòåòü âûðàæàÿ íåñîãëàñèå. Äîíàëüä ïîñìîòðåë íà çðèòåëüíûé çàë è ñåðüåçíî ïðîèçíåñ: "Áëàãîäàðÿ ýòîìó ÿ çäåñü íàâåðõó, à âû òàì, âíèçó!" Ñ ñåòåâûì ìàðêåòèíãîì âû èìååòå äâà èñòî÷íèêà ïðèáûëè: Ïðÿìàÿ ïðèáûëü ñ ïðîäàæè, êîòîðóþ ïðîâîäèòå Âû ñàìè è ïðèáûëü ñ îáîðîòà ëþäåé, êîòîðûõ ïðèâåäåòå â áèçíåñ. Áåñêîíå÷íàÿ ïðèáûëü ÿâëÿåòñÿ òàéíîé áîãàòñòâà. Ýòî çíà÷èò îäèí ðàç èíâåñòèðîâàòü âðåìÿ èëè äåíüãè à ïîòîì ïîëó÷àòü äåíüãè ñíîâà è ñíîâà.  ñåòåâîì ìàðêåòèíãå ýòî òàêæå îçíà÷àåò ïîëó÷àòü äåíüãè çà ðàáîòó äðóãèõ. Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, ïðî÷èòàâ ýòî ïèñüìî âïåðâûå, ÿ ïðàêòè÷åñêè ïðîïóñòèë òàêóþ âîçìîæíîñòü ñêâîçü ïàëüöû, è äàæå íå ñòàë ÷èòàòü äàëüøå, íî âñêîðå ÿ ïåðå÷èòàë âñå çàíîâî. Çàäóìàëñÿ è ïîíÿë âñþ ñèëó ýòîãî ïðåäëîæåíèÿ. È òåïåðü ÿ áîãàò è ñâîáîäåí. ß ìîãó äóõîâíî ðàçâèâàòüñÿ, îòäûõàòü, íàäî ìíîé íåò ãíåòà íà÷àëüñòâà, ìîåé ñåìüå è ìíå íå ìåøàåò óíèçèòåëüíàÿ áåäíîñòü è áîðüáà çà êóñîê õëåáà, ìåøàÿ ÷åëîâå÷åñêîé æèçíè... ************************************************************ Íàïðèìåð, âîò ÷òî ãîâîðèò ìèñòåð Äæåðè Ïðîêòîð, àìåðèêàíñêèé ìèëëèîíåð. Äâà ãîäà íàçàä áûëà óïðàçäíåíà ìîÿ äîëæíîñòü â ôèðìå, â êîòîðîé ÿ ðàáîòàë ïîñëåäíèõ ïÿòíàäöàòü ëåò. Ïîñëå íåñêîëüêèõ íåóñïåøíûõ ñîáåñåäîâàíèé ÿ ðåøèë íà÷àòü ñâîé ñîáñòâåííûé áèçíåñ.  òå÷åíèè ïðîøëûõ ëåò ÿ ïðîøåë ìíîãî ôèíàíñîâûõ çàòðóäíåíèé. ß áûë äîëæåí ñâîåé ñåìüå, äðóçüÿì è êðåäèòîðàì áîëåå 35.000,- USD. ß áûë âûíóæäåí çàëîæèòü ñâîé äîì, ÷òîáû ïðîêîðìèòü ñâîþ ñåìüþ è óäåðæàòü ñâîé áèçíåñ.  ÝÒÎÒ ÌÎÌÅÍÒ ïðîèçîøëî íå÷òî âûäàþùååñÿ â ìîåé æèçíè, è ÿ ïèøó äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû ïîäåëèòüñÿ îá ýòîì çíàìåíàòåëüíîì ñîáûòèè ñ Âàìè.  ñåðåäèíå äåêàáðÿ 1998 ÿ ïîëó÷èë e-mail ñ ýòîé ïðîãðàììîé. Ïåðåä ýòèì ÿ øåñòü ìåñÿöåâ èñêàë ðàçíûå òîðãîâûå âîçìîæíîñòè. Âñå ïðîãðàììû, êîòîðûå ÿ ïîëó÷èë íå áûëè ýôôåêòèâíûìè (ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå íà ìîé âçãëÿä). Îíè áûëè èëè ñëèøêîì ñëîæíûìè èëè òðåáîâàëè áîëüøèõ èíâåñòèöèé, à ðèñêîâàòü ñâîèì âêëàäîì, ÷òîáû óçíàòü äåéñòâóåò ýòî èëè íåò, ÿ íå õîòåë. Êàê ÿ óæå ãîâîðèë, â äåêàáðå 1998 ÿ ïîëó÷èë ýòó ïðîãðàììó. ß íå õîòåë åå ïîëó÷àòü, ïðîñòî, ïîëó÷èë òàê æå êàê è Âû. Ñïàñèáî Áîãó çà ýòî! ß ïðî÷èòàë ïðîãðàììó íåñêîëüêî ðàç, ïîòîìó ÷òî íå ìîã â íåå ïîâåðèòü, è ïðèíÿëñÿ çà ðàáîòó. ß ìîã èíâåñòèðîâàòü òîëüêî ñòîëüêî äåíåã, ñêîëüêî â äàííûé ìîìåíò áûëî âîçìîæíî. Òàê æå êàê è Âû ÿ áûë ñêåïòè÷åí è íåìíîãî áîÿëñÿ î ëåãàëüíîñòè äàííîé ïðîãðàììû. Ïîñëå èñêëþ÷åíèÿ òîãî, ÷òî ïðîãðàììà ìîæåò áûòü íåëåãàëüíîé, ÿ ñêàçàë ñåáå, ïî÷åìó áû ìíå ýòî íå ïîïðîáîâàòü. Ïîòîì ÿ ïîñëàë îêîëî 10.000 e-mail. Ñòîèëî ìíå ýòî îêîëî 15,- USD çà ìîå âðåìÿ on-line. Ïðåâîñõîäíîå ñâîéñòâî e-mail ñîñòîèò â òîì, ÷òî íå íàäî íè÷åãî ïå÷àòàòü, à íóæíî òîëüêî ïîñûëàòü. Òàê êàê âñå çàêàçû îôîðìëÿþòñÿ ÷åðåç e-mail, òî ìîåé èíâåñòèöèåé áûëî òîëüêî ìîå âðåìÿ, êîòîðîå ÿ ïðîâåë ó êîìïüþòåðà. Ãîâîðþ Âàì êàê ýòî áûëî, íàäåþñü, ÷òî Âàñ ýòî íå ðàçî÷àðóåò, òàê êàê ÿ ïîîáåùàë ñåáå, ÷òî íèêîãî íå îáìàíó, ÷åãî áû ìíå ýòî íå ñòîèëî. Ìåíüøå ÷åì ÷åðåç íåäåëþ ÿ íà÷àë ïîëó÷àòü çàêàçû íà REPORT #1. Äî 13 ÿíâàðÿ 1999 ÿ ïîëó÷èë 26 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #1. Âàøåé öåëüþ ÿâëÿåòñÿ ïîëó÷èòü ìèíèìàëüíî 20 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #1  ÒÅ×ÅÍÈÈ ÄÂÓÕ ÍÅÄÅËÜ. ÅÑËÈ ÂÛ ÈÕ ÍÅ ÏÎËÓ×ÈÒÅ, ÏÎØËÅÒÅ ÁÎËÜØÅ ÄÀÍÍÛÕ ÏÐÎÃÐÀÌÌ, ÄËß ÒÎÃÎ ×ÒÎÁÛ ÈÕ ÏÎËÓ×ÈÒÜ! Ìîé øàã ê ïîëó÷åíèþ 50.000,- USD çà 90 äíåé áûë ñäåëàí. Äî 30 ÿíâàðÿ 1999 ÿ ïîëó÷èë 196 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #2. Âàøåé öåëüþ ÿâëÿåòñÿ ïîëó÷èòü ìèíèìàëüíî 100 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #2 â òå÷åíèè äâóõ íåäåëü. Åñëè ýòî íå ïîëó÷èòñÿ, òàê ðàññûëàéòå áîëüøå ýòèõ ïðîãðàìì. Êàê òîëüêî äîñòèãíèòå 100 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #2 òî âñå îñòàëüíîå áóäåò â ïîðÿäêå è Âû òî÷íî ïîëó÷èòå ñâîè 50.000,- USD. Ó ìåíÿ áûëî 196 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #2, òî åñòü íà 96 áîëüøå ÷åì ìíå áûëî íóæíî. Ïîýòîìó ÿ ñåë è îòäûõàë. Äî 1 ìàðòà 1999 çà ñâîè 10.000 îòîñëàíûõ e-mail ÿ ïîëó÷èë 58.000,- USD è êàæäûé äåíü ïðèõîäèëè íîâûå äåíüãè. ß çàïëàòèë ñâîè äîëãè è êóïèë ñåáå ìàøèíó. Ïîæàëóéñòà, íàéäèòå âðåìÿ è âíèìàòåëüíî ïðî÷èòàéòå ýòó ïðîãðàììó. ÝÒÎ ÍÀÂÑÅÃÄÀ ÈÇÌÅÍÈÒ ÂÀØÓ ÆÈÇÍÜ!!! Ïîìíèòå, ÷òî ýòî íå çàðàáîòàåò, ïîêà âû ýòî íå ïîïðîáóåòå! Ýòà ïðîãðàììà äåéñòâóåò, íî Âû äîëæíû òî÷íî ïðèäåðæèâàòüñÿ ðåêîìåíäàöèé!! Ñïåöèàëüíîå ïðàâèëî - íå ñòàðàéòåñü âïèñûâàòü Âàøå èìÿ òàì, ãäå ýòî íå íóæíî. Ýòî íå áóäåò äåéñòâîâàòü, à Âû íåäîïîëó÷èòå ìíîãî äåíåã!! Áîëåå òîãî, ïðè èçìåíåíèè äàííûõ ïðîäàâöîâ èíà÷å, ÷åì ýòî óêàçàíî â èíñòðóêöèè íèæå, äàííûé âèä ïðåäïðèíèìàòåëüñòâà ñòàíîâèòñÿ íåëåãàëüíûì. Ñíîâà ïîâòîðÿþ, ÷òî â ñëó÷àå ñîáëþäåíèÿ âñåõ íèæåóêàçàííûõ ðåêîìåíäàöèé, ðå÷ü èäåò î ëåãàëüíîì ïðåäïðèíèìàòåëüñòâå!! Äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû âû äîñòèãëè ñâîåé öåëè íåîáõîäèìî ïîëó÷èòü 20 è áîëüøå çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #1 è 100 è áîëüøå íà REPORT #2.  ýòîì ñëó÷àå çàðàáîòàåòå 50.000,- USD (èëè áîëüøå) çà 90 äíåé! ß - ÐÅÀËÜÍÎÅ ÄÎÊÀÇÀÒÅËÜÑÒÂÎ ÒÎÃÎ, ×ÒÎ ÝÒÎ ÍÀ ÑÀÌÎÌ ÄÅËÅ ÄÅÉÑÒÂÓÅÒ!!! Åñëè âû ðåøèëèñü, ÷òî â ýòîé ïðîãðàììå ó÷àñòâîâàòü íå áóäåòå, òàê ìíå âàñ èñêðåííå æàëü. Òàê êàê ýòî ðåàëüíàÿ ïðåâîñõîäíàÿ âîçìîæíîñòü ñ ìèíèìàëüíûì ðèñêîì è èíâåñòèöèÿìè! Åñëè õîòèòå ó÷àñòâîâàòü, ïðèäåðæèâàéòåñü äàííûõ ðåêîìåíäàöèé è áóäåòå íà äîðîãå ê ôèíàíñîâîé íåçàâèñèìîñòè. Åñëè çàíèìàåòåñü ïðåäïðèíèìàòåëüñòâîì èëè õîòèòå íà÷àòü ñâîé ñîáñòâåííûé áèçíåñ, òàê ñ÷èòàéòå ýòî çà õîðîøóþ âîçìîæíîñòü. ß ÝÒÎ ÑÄÅËÀË !!! Ñ óâàæåíèåì Äæåðè Ïðîêòîð.       ÝÒÎ ÏÎÐÀÇÈÒÅËÜÍÎ!!! (ËÈ×ÍÀß ÇÀÌÅÒÊÀ ÎÒ ÎÑÍÎÂÀÒÅËß ÝÒÎÉ ÏÐÎÃÐÀÌÌÛ) ************************************************************ Ïåðåä òåì êàê ïðî÷èòàåòå ýòó ïðîãðàììó, âû äîëæíû ïîíÿòü, ÷òî ýòà ëåãàëüíàÿ ïðîãðàììà íå ìîãëà áûëà áûòü ñîçäàíà ëþáèòåëåì. Ïîçâîëüòå ìíå íåìíîãî ðàññêàçàòü î ñåáå. Öåëûõ 10 ëåò ó ìåíÿ áûë ñîáñòâåííûé ðàçâèâàþùèéñÿ áèçíåñ.  1979 ãîäó ìîé áèçíåñ íà÷àë ðóøèòüñÿ. ß äåëàë âñå, ÷òî ìíå äî ýòîãî ïðèíîñèëî óñïåõ, íî áåçóñïåøíî. Íàêîíåö ÿ ïîíÿë, ÷òî ýòî íå èç-çà ìåíÿ, à èç-çà ýêîíîìèêè, êîòîðàÿ íàñ ñîïðîâîæäàëà ñ 1945 ãîäà. Äóìàþ íå íóæíî Âàì îáúÿñíÿòü, êàê ýòî ïîâëèÿëî íà áåçðàáîòèöó â ñòðàíå, ìíîãèå èç Âàñ ýòî çíàþò ïî ñîáñòâåííîìó îïûòó. Ïðèøëî ìíîãî ïàäåíèé è áàíêðîòîâ. Ñðåäíèé êëàññ èñ÷åçàë, òå, êîòîðûå çíàëè ÷òî äåëàþò, ìóäðî èíâåñòèðîâàëè è ïðîäâèíóëèñü âûøå, à òå êòî íå çíàë, ïàäàëè âñå íèæå, â áåäíîòó. Êàê ãîâîðèò èçâåñòíàÿ ïîãîâîðêà: "ÁÎÃÀÒÛÅ ÁÎÃÀÒÅÞÒ, À ÁÅÄÍÛÅ ÁÅÄÍÅÞÒ". Òðàäèöèîííûå ñïîñîáû çàðàáîòêà äåíåã íèêîãäà íå ïîçâîëÿò Âàì âûñîêî ïîäíÿòüñÿ, à èíôëÿöèÿ òîëüêî ýòîìó ïîìîæåò. Ñåé÷àñ âû ïîëó÷èëè ïèñüìî, êîòîðîå ìîæåò äàòü Âàì ôèíàíñîâóþ íåçàâèñèìîñòü íà âñþ Âàøó æèçíü è "ÁÅÇ ÐÈÑÊÀ" è ñ "ÌÈÍÈÌÀËÜÍÛÌÈ ÓÑÈËÈßÌÈ".  ïîñëåäóþùèõ ìåñÿöàõ Âû ñìîæåòå çàðàáîòàòü äåíåã áîëüøå, ÷åì ìîæåòå ñåáå ïðåäñòàâèòü. Íóæíî ïîä÷åðêíóòü, ÷òî ÿ ñ ýòèõ äåíåã íå óâèæó íè öåíòà. Êàê è íèêòî èç ëþäåé, êîòîðûå òåñòèðîâàëè äàííóþ ïðîãðàììó. ß óæå çàðàáîòàë áîëåå 4.000.000,- USD!!! Ïåðåñòàë èñïîëüçîâàòü ýòó ïðîãðàììó ïîñëå òîãî, êàê ïîñëàë 16.000 ïðîãðàìì. Ñåé÷àñ ó ìåíÿ íåñêîëüêî ôèðì, êîòîðûå èçîáðåòàþò ïîäîáíûå ïðîãðàììû. Âûïîëíÿéòå ïðîãðàììó ÒÎ×ÍÎ ÏÎ ÈÍÑÒÐÓÊÖÈÈ!! Íå èçìåíÿéòå åå íèêàêèì îáðàçîì!! Îíà äåéñòâóåò ìàêñèìàëüíî ýôôåêòèâíî èìåííî â ýòîì âèäå. Íå çàáóäüòå ïîñëàòü êîïèþ ýòîé ïðîãðàììû êàæäîìó, êîãî òîëüêî âñïîìíèòå! Îäèí ÷åëîâåê, êîòîðîìó âû ýòî ïîøëåòå ìîæåò ïîñëàòü è 50.000 êîïèé ... à Âàøå èìÿ áóäåò íà êàæäîé èç íèõ!!! Ïîìíèòå, ÷òî ÷åì áîëüøå ïðîãðàìì âû ïîøëåòå, òåì áîëüøå ïîòåíöèàëüíûõ çàêàç÷èêîâ ïðèîáðåòåòå! Òàê ÷òî, äðóçüÿ, ÿ ïðåäîñòàâëÿþ Âàì âîçìîæíîñòü, èíôîðìàöèþ, ìàòåðèàë äëÿ òîãî ÷òîáû âû ïîëó÷èëè ôèíàíñîâóþ íåçàâèñèìîñòü. ÒÅÏÅÐÜ ÝÒÎ ÇÀÂÈÑÈÒ ÒÎËÜÊÎ ÎÒ ÂÀÑ! "ÏÎÄÓÌÀÉÒÅ ÎÁ ÝÒÎÌ" ïåðåä òåì êàê óäàëèòå ýòîò mail, êàê ÷óòü íå ñäåëàë ÿ. Îòâåäèòå ñåáå íåìíîãî âðåìåíè, ïðî÷òèòå è ïî-íàñòîÿùåìó ïîäóìàéòå íàä ýòèì. Âîçüìèòå ðó÷êó è ïîñ÷èòàéòå, ÷òî ìîæåò èç ýòîãî ïîëó÷èòüñÿ, åñëè Âû ýòî ïîïðîáóåòå. Âîçüìèòå ñàìûé ïëîõîé âàðèàíò, íî è â ýòîì ñëó÷àå ó âàñ áóäåò ìíîãî äåíåã.  ñàìîì õóäøåì ñëó÷àå ïîëó÷èòå ñâîþ èíâåñòèöèþ íàçàä. Âñå ñîìíåíèÿ, êîòîðûå ó âàñ åñòü, èñ÷åçíóò, êîãäà ïîëó÷èòå ñâîé ïåðâûé çàêàç. ÝÒÎ ÄÅÉÑÒÂÓÅÒ!!!!! Jody Jacobs, Richmond,VA. À ÒÅÏÅÐÜ, ÂÎÒ ÝÒÀ ÏÅÐÂÎÑÕÎÄÍÀß ÏÐÎÃÐÀÌÌÀ, ÊÎÒÎÐÀß ÂÀÌ ÇÀÐÀÁÎÒÀÅÒ ÒÛÑß×È ÄÎËËÀÐÎÂ!!!!! ************************************************************ ÈÍÑÒÐÓÊÖÈß : Ýòîò ìåòîä çàðàáîòêà äåíåã íà ñàìîì äåëå ÄÅÉÑÒÂÓÅÒ ÍÀ 100%, ÊÎÃÄÀ ÓÃÎÄÍÎ, ÃÄÅ ÓÃÎÄÍÎ. ß óâåðåí, ÷òî Âû ñìîæåòå çàðàáîòàòü áîëåå 50.000,- USD â ïîñëåäóþùèå 90 äíåé. Ïåðåä òåì êàê ñêàçàòü "ãëóïîñòü..." ïîæàëóéñòà ïðî÷èòàéòå âíèìàòåëüíî è âíèêíèòå â ñóòü ýòîé ïðîãðàììû. Ýòî íå öåïíîå ïèñüìî, à îòëè÷íàÿ ëåãàëüíàÿ âîçìîæíîñòü çàðàáîòàòü äåíüãè.  ÷åì ñìûñë? Òàê êàê è â ëþáîé multi-level ñõåìå, òîðãîâëÿ ñòðîèòñÿ íà ïðèâëå÷åíèè íîâûõ ïàðòíåðîâ è ïðîäàæå ñâîèõ òîâàðîâ. ÇÀÊÀÇÛ Ê ÂÀÌ ÏÐÈÕÎÄßÒ È ÂÛÏÎËÍßÞÒÑß ÏÎ E-MAIL, ïîýòîìó íå âîçíèêàåò ëè÷íîãî êîíòàêòà. Äåëàåòñÿ âñå äîìà èëè â ó÷ðåæäåíèè. Ýòî ñàìàÿ áîëüøàÿ multi-level âîçìîæíîñòü íà ñâåòå!!!!! È ÝÒÎ ÍÅ ÏÐÅÓÂÅËÈ×ÅÍÈÅ!!   Ñóùåñòâóåò äâà îñíîâíûõ ìåòîäà äëÿ ñòðîèòåëüñòâà âàøèõ íèæíèõ óðîâíåé: Ìåòîä #1- ÏÎÑÛËÊÀ ÌÀÑÑÎÂÎÉ E-MAIL ÐÅÊËÀÌÛ Ïðåäïîëîæèì, íàïðèìåð, ÷òî Âû õîòèòå íà÷àòü ñ ìàëîãî êîëè÷åñòâà, òîëüêî äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû ïîñìîòðåòü êàê ýòî äåéñòâóåò. Äîïóñòèì, ÷òî Âû è âñå âîâëå÷åííûå Âàìè êîìïàíüîíû ïîøëåòå òîëüêî 2.000 e-mail (êàæäûé èç Âàñ). Òàêæå ïðåäïîëîæèì, ÷òî ïîëó÷èòå âñåãî 0,5% îòâåòîâ. Åñëè èñïîëüçóåòå õîðîøèé ïåðå÷åíü àäðåñîâ òî 1%. Ïîòîì ìíîãî ëþäåé ðàçîøëþò óæå ñîòíè òûñÿ÷ ýòèõ ïðîãðàìì, áëàãîäàðÿ âàøèì 2.000. Ïðîäîëæèì íàø ïðèìåð, âû ïîñëàëè 2.000 ïðîãðàìì. Èç 0,5% îòâåòîâ ýòî òîëüêî 10 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #1. Ýòèõ äåñÿòü ÷åëîâåê ïîñëàëî 20.000 ïðîãðàìì, ÷òî ïðè 0,5% - óæå 100 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #2. Êàæäûé èç ýòèõ 100 ïîñëàëè ïî 2.000 ïðîãðàìì, à Âû ïîëó÷èëè 1.000 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #3, à åñëè êàæäûé èç ýòèõ 1.000 ïîøëåò 2.000 ñâîèõ ïðîãðàìì, òàê ïðè 0,5% ïîëó÷èòå 10.000 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #4. À ýòî 10.000 õ 5 = 50.000 USD â íàëè÷íîñòè!!!!! Âàø êîíå÷íûé çàðàáîòîê â ýòîì ñëó÷àå áóäåò: 50+500+5.000+50.000 = 55.550,- USD!!!!!!! Ïîìíèòå, ÷òî ýòî ïðåäïîëîæåíèå äëÿ 1990 ÷åëîâåê. Òå, êîòîðûå íå çàõîòÿò ó÷àñòâîâàòü, ýòó âîçìîæíîñòü óäàëÿò, è íè÷åãî íå ñëó÷èòñÿ! Ïîïðîáóéòå ïîäóìàòü ìèíóòêó! À ÷òî åñëè êàæäûé ïîøëåò 100.000 ïðîãðàìì âìåñòî 2.000 ?! Âåðüòå ìíå, ÷òî ëþäè ýòî ñäåëàþò, âîçìîæíî è áîëüøå! Ìåæäó ïðî÷èì, Âàø ôèíàíñîâûé âêëàä ÿâëÿåòñÿ ìèíèìàëüíûì... Âû óæå èìååòå ïîäêëþ÷åíèå ê Èíòåðíåò, à e-mail - áåñïëàòåí! REPORT #2 Âàì ïîêàæåò ñàìûå ëó÷øèå ìåòîäû ìàññîâîé ðàññûëêè e-mail è ãäå ìîæíî íàéòè ïåðå÷åíü àäðåñîâ. ÌÅÒÎÄ #2 - ÁÅÑÏËÀÒÍÀß ÐÅÊËÀÌÀ  ÈÍÒÅÐÍÅÒÅ Ðåêëàìà â Èíòåðíåòå ÿâëÿåòñÿ íåòðåáîâàòåëüíîé è ñóùåñòâóåò òûñÿ÷à ÁÅÑÏËÀÒÍÛÕ ìåñò äëÿ ðåêëàìû. Ñêàæåì, íàïðèìåð, ÷òî âû íà÷íåòå ñêðîìíî, òîëüêî äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû óçíàòü äåéñòâóåò ëè ýòî. Âàøåé öåëüþ áû áûëî íàéòè âñåãî ëèøü 10 ÷åëîâåê íà ïåðâûé óðîâåíü òî åñòü òåõ, êòî çàêàçàë áû ó Âàñ REPORT#1 (ðàçìåùåíèåì áåñïëàòíûõ îáúÿâëåíèé â Èíòåðíåò ëåãêî íàéòè è áîëüøåå êîëè÷åñòâî çàêàçîâ). Äàëüøå ïðåäïîëîæèì, ÷òî êàæäûé èç Âàøåé îðãàíèçàöèè íàéäåò òîëüêî 10 ÷åëîâåê. Ïîñìîòðèì íà ïðèìåðå è óâèäèì, ÷òî ïðîèçîéäåò: 1-é level - âàøèõ 10 êëèåíòîâ ïî 5 USD.............................50,- USD. 2-é level - ïî 10 êëèåíòîâ îò òåõ 10-òè (5,- USD x 100) ........ 500,- USD. 3-é level - ýòî óæå 1.000 êëèåíòîâ (5,- USD x 1.000) ........5.000,- USD. 4-é level - 10.000 êëèåíòîâ (5,- USD x 10.000) ............... 50.000,- USD. Èòîãî 55.550,- USD. Ïîìíèòå, ÷òî ýòî òîëüêî ïðèìåð äëÿ 10 êëèåíòîâ. Ìíîãèå ëþäè íàéäóò ñîòíè êëèåíòîâ!!! ÏÎÄÓÌÀÉÒÅ ÎÁ ÝÒÎÌ!!! Âñå, ÷òî âû äîëæíû ñäåëàòü, çà êàæäûå $5 USD, êîòîðûå ïîëó÷èòå â ñâîé êîøåëåê - ýòî ïîñëàòü ïîêóïàòåëþ çàêàçàííûé REPORT. È ÝÒÎ ÂÑÅ!!! ÂÑÅÃÄÀ ÎÒÏÐÀÂËßÉÒÅ ÇÀÊÀÇÛ Â ÒÎÒ ÄÅÍÜ, ÊÎÃÄÀ ÎÍÈ ÏÐÈÉÄÓÒ!!! Ýòî Âàì ãàðàíòèðóåò, ÷òî e-mail, êîòîðûå áóäóò ïîñûëàòü ñ ÂÀØÈÌ èìåíåì, áóäóò áûñòðåå ðàñïðîñòðàíÿòüñÿ, ïîòîìó ÷òî îíè íå ìîãóò áûòü ïîñëàíû ïîêà REPORT's íåò ó âàøåãî çàêàç÷èêà!!! ÈÒÀÊ, ÄÎÑÒÓÏÍÛÅ REPORT's: ****** Çàêàæè ñåáå êàæäûé èç íèõ ñîãëàñíî íîìåðó è íàçâàíèþ ******   ÇÀÊÀÆÈÒÅ ÑÅÁÅ REPORT's ÑÅÉ×ÀÑ !!!   Òàáëèöà 1. REPORT's è ðåêâèçèòû ïðîäàâöîâ. ¹ Ïåðå÷åíü REPORT's R- è Z- êîøåëüêè ïðîäàâöà E-mail ïðîäàâöà 1 REPORT #1 "Ðóêîâîäñòâî ïî áåñïëàòíîé è ýôôåêòèâíîé ðåêëàìå â Èíòåðíåò" R871542342557 Z469857407500 WM_13@yahoo.com 2 REPORT #2 "Ðóêîâîäñòâî ïî ìàññîâîé ðåêëàìíîé ðàññûëêå E-Mail " R803112125203 Z460897718401 verysimplejob@yahoo.com 3 REPORT #3 "Ñåêðåòû ìíîãîóðîâíåâîãî ìàðêåòèíãà â Èíòåðíåò" R916511407235 Z601004161913 poul007@narod.ru 4 REPORT #4 "Êàê ñòàòü ìèëëèîíåðîì, èñïîëüçóÿ MLM è Èíòåðíåò" R117465742973 Z095492416150 asebo@mail.ru Ñ ëþáûì èç ïðîäàâöîâ âñåãäà ìîæíî ñâÿçàòüñÿ ÷åðåç åãî e-mail. Íî, ïîæàëóéñòà, íå çàãðóæàéòå èõ ëèøíèìè âîïðîñàìè, îíè ìîãóò áûòü î÷åíü çàíÿòû îáðàáîòêîé çàêàçîâ (îñîáåííî íà òðåòüåì è ÷åòâåðòûõ óðîâíÿõ). ÂÎÒ, ×ÒÎ ÍÓÆÍÎ ÑÄÅËÀÒÜ ÂÀÌ: 1. Ñêîïèðîâàòü ïðîãðàììó WebMoney keeper 2 è ñîçäàòü ñåáå ðóáëåâûé R-êîøåëåê. Èíñòðóêöèè ïî ðàáîòå ñ êîøåëüêîì è èíôîðìàöèÿ îá ýòîé ñèñòåìå ïëàòåæåé íà ñàéòå http://www.webmoney.ru 2. Ïîïîëíèòü ÑÂÎÉ êîøåëåê ðóáëåâûì ýêâèâàëåíòîì $20 + 3% ïî êóðñó ÖÁ, âûáðàâ ëþáîé èç äîñòóïíûõ íà http://www.webmoney.ru/rus/perevods.htm ñïîñîáîâ ïåðåâîäà. 3. Ïîñëå ïîñòóïëåíèÿ äåíåã â âàø êîøåëåê, çàêàæèòå ñåáå âñå ÷åòûðå REPORT's (èç ïåðå÷íÿ Òàáëèöû 1), ïóòåì ïåðåâîäà WebMoney èç ñâîåãî êîøåëüêà â êîøåëåê ïðîäàâöà, ñóììû $5 ÑØÀ ïî êóðñó ÖÁ, çà êàæäûé REPORT. Îáÿçàòåëüíî, óêàæèòå â ïîëå êîììåíòàðèÿ íîìåð REPORT è îáðàòíûé e-mail àäðåñ. Ïðèìåð: REPORT#1 xxxxxx@xxxx.xxx (Ïîäòâåðäèòå îïëàòó ïî e-mail) 4.  Òàáëèöå 1, óäàëèòå íîìåð êîøåëüêà èç ñòðîêè 4 è ïåðåìåñòèòå íà åãî ìåñòî íîìåð êîøåëüêà èç ñòðîêè 3. Çàòåì, ïåðåìåñòèòå íîìåð êîøåëüêà èç ñòðîêè 2 â îñâîáîäèâøååñÿ ìåñòî â ñòîðîêå 3. È, íàêîíåö, ïåðåìåñòèòå íîìåð êîøåëüêà èç ñòðîêè 1 â ñòðîêó 2.  îñâîáîäèâøååñÿ ìåñòî â ñòðîêå 1 âñòàâüòå íîìåð ñâîåãî R- êîøåëüêà. Òåïåðü Âû ñòàëè ïðîäàâöîì REPORT#1. 5. Òîæå ñàìîå ïðîäåëàéòå ñ e-mail àäðåñàìè. ÏÐÈÌÅ×ÀÍÈÅ: *Çà êàæäûé REPORT ïåðåâåäèòå ðóáëåâûé ýêâèâàëåíò $5 USD ïî êóðñó ÖÁ, ñî ñâîåãî êîøåëüêà íà íîìåð êîøåëüêà ïðîäàâöà. (USD ïîòîìó, ÷òî â ýòî âîâëå÷åíû æåëàþùèå ñî âñåãî ñâåòà). Âñå îïåðàöèè îò ñîçäàíèÿ êîøåëüêà äî îïëàòû REPORT's ïðîèçâîäÿòñÿ â ïðîãðàììå WebMoney Keeper. * êîøåëüêå, äåíüãè õðàíÿòñÿ â âèäå óñëîâíûõ åäèíèö (WebMoney). Ïî êóðñó 1WM = 1 ðóá. äëÿ R- êîøåëüêà 1WM = 1 äîëëàð ÑØÀ äëÿ Z- êîøåëüêà. *Êîãäà ñäåëàåòå ñâîé çàêàç, óáåäèòåñü, ÷òî âû çàêàçàëè âñå REPORT. Âñå îíè ïîíàäîáÿòñÿ äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû Âû ñîõðàíèëè ó ñåáÿ â êîìïüþòåðå è, ïîòîì, ìîãëè ïðîäàâàòü êîïèè. Âàì äåéñòâèòåëüíî íóæíû âñå ýòè REPORT, èíà÷å ëþäè íå ñìîãóò ñäåëàòü ó âàñ çàêàç, à ñàìîå ãëàâíîå, ýòè REPORT's ñîäåðæàò âàæíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ î òîì, êàê èì äîñòè÷ü óñïåõà!! È ðàçâèâàòü ýòîò áèçíåññ. * òå÷åíèè íåñêîëüêèõ äíåé ïîñëå îïëàòû, âû ïîëó÷èòå ÷åòûðå e-mail, â êàæäîì ïî îäíîìó REPORT(ó). Ñîõðàíèòå èõ â âàøåì êîìïüþòåðå (è íà äèñêåòå äëÿ íàäåæíîñòè), ÷òîáû îíè âñåãäà áûëè ãîòîâû ê ïîñûëêå òûñÿ÷àì ëþäåé, êîòîðûå èõ ó âàñ çàêàæóò. Òåïåðü ýòî Âàø òîâàð, ñ ïðàâîì ïðîäàæè! ÂÀÆÍÎ: - íå ìåíÿéòå íîìåðà êîøåëüêîâ, êîòîðûå íàõîäÿòñÿ â ñïèñêå çà êàæäûì èç REPORT's (íèêàêèì ñïîñîáîì), òîëüêî òàê, êàê ýòî óêàçàíî â ïóíêòàõ (1 - 5), èíà÷å ïîòåðÿåòå áîëüøóþ ÷àñòü ñâîèõ äîõîäîâ. Êîãäà ïîéìåòå, êàê ýòî äåéñòâóåò, Âàì ñðàçó ñòàíåò ïîíÿòíî, ïî÷åìó ýòî ïåðåñòàåò äåéñòâîâàòü, êîãäà ÷òî-íèáóäü èçìåíèøü íå ïî ïóíêòàì(1 - 5) . Ïîìíèòå, ýòîò ìåòîä áûë ïðîâåðåí, è åñëè Âû èçìåíèòå åãî, îí ïåðåñòàíåò ðàáîòàòü!! Âîçüìèòå ýòîò äîêóìåíò ñ èçìåíåííûì ïåðå÷íåì èìåí è ñ÷åòîâ è ñêîïèðóéòå åãî íà âàø êîìïüþòåð. Òåïåðü âû ãîòîâû ê ðàáîòå è ìîæåòå ðàññûëàòü ýòî ïðåäëîæåíèå â ïîèñêàõ ñâîèõ êëèåíòîâ, íî ïðåäâàðèòåëüíî îáÿçàòåëüíî ïðî÷èòàéòå âñå ÷åòûðå ðóêîâîäñòâà - îíè ñèëüíî ïîìîãóò âàì. Íå äåëàéòå íèêàêèõ èçìåíåíèé â ÷àñòè ÈÍÑÒÐÓÊÖÈÈ!!! Âàø ôèíàíñîâûé âêëàä â äàííîå ïðåäïðèÿòèå ÿâëÿåòñÿ ïðàêòè÷åñêè íè÷òîæíûì (êîíå÷íî æå åñëè âû ìîæåòå ïîçâîëèòü ñåáå èíâåñòèðîâàòü 20,- USD, èëè, íàïðèìåð, ìîæåòå ñëîæèòüñÿ ñ äðóçüÿìè. ×åì áîëüøå áóäåò Âàñ äëÿ ïîñûëêè ðåêëàìû è email, òåì áîëüøå âû èõ ïîøëåòå!. Âû, êîíå÷íî æå, óæå ïîäêëþ÷åíû ê ñåòè Èíòåðíåò è èìååòå áåñïëàòíûé e-mail!  ïîìîùü Âàì ñ âàøèì ìàðêåòèíãîì, ñîçäàíû 4 REPORT(ðóêîâîäñòâà), êîòîðûå âû çàêàçàëè. Îíè ñîäåðæàò ïîëåçíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ, íàïðèìåð, êàê ïîñûëàòü ìàññîâóþ ïî÷òîâóþ ðàññûëêó (e-mail), ãäå íàéòè òûñÿ÷ó âîçìîæíîñòåé ñäåëàòü áåñïëàòíóþ ðåêëàìó è ò.ä. Òàêæå âàì áóäóò äàíû èíôîðìàöèè îá ÈÍÒÅÐÍÅÒ-ÌÀÐÊÅÒÈÍÃ-ÊËÓÁÀÕ. Çäåñü íàéäåòå êîíôåðåíöèþ, ãäå èíòåðíåò-ïðåäïðèíèìàòåëè ñ öåëîãî ñâåòà âçàèìíî îáìåíèâàþòñÿ èíôîðìàöèåé è ñåêðåòàìè óñïåõà. Êëóá òàêæå áåñïëàòíî ïðåäîñòàâëÿåò èíòåðíåòîâûå èíñòðóìåíòû è óñëóãè äëÿ ñîçäàíèÿ ÑÎÁÑÒÂÅÍÍÎÃÎ ÈÍÒÅÐÍÅÒ ÏÐÅÄÏÐÈßÒÈß. Ïîñòàâÿò áåñïëàòíî software äëÿ îòïðàâëåíèÿ ìàññîâûõ e-mail è êàæäûé äåíü 1.000.000 íîâûõ e-mail àäðåñîâ. Òàêæå Âàì ïîñîâåòóþò, ãäå íàéòè áåñïëàòíóþ WEB ñòðàíèöó, êàê ïîëó÷èòü TOP îöåíêó â ïîèñêîâûõ ïðîãðàììàõ äëÿ Âàøåé ñòðàíèöû, êàê ïðîäàòü Âàø ïðîäóêò ïðè ïîìîùè ðåêëàìû, áþëëåòåíåé, áàííåðîâ è ìíîãî äðóãèõ ñîâåòîâ. Àäðåñ IMR: http://www.marketingontheweb.net Ïðèëîæåíèå àäðåñîâ ñî ñïèñêàìè è ïîèñêîâûìè ïðîãðàììàìè e-mail àäðåñîâ: http://www.whowhere.lycos.com/Email http://www.infospace.com/info/email1.htm !!! ÎÁßÇÀÒÅËÜÍÎ ÏÐÎÂÅÐÜÒÅ ÏÐÀÂÈËÜÍÎÑÒÜ ÈÇÌÅÍÅÍÈß ÒÀÁËÈÖÛ !!! Ïðèáëèçèòåëüíî 50.000 íîâûõ ëþäåé ïîäêëþ÷àþòñÿ ê Èíòåðíåòó êàæäûé ìåñÿö! Ïðîâåðüòå, îñîáåííî âíèìàòåëüíî, ïðàâèëüíîñòü óêàçàíèÿ íîìåðà êîøåëüêà ïðè ïåðåâîäå. Ýòî î÷åíü âàæíî, òàê êàê ïîêà íå çàïëàòèòå ïðàâèëüíî, çàêàç íå ïðèäåò, à Âû íå ïîëó÷èòå ñâîé report. Íàéäèòå âðåìÿ, ÷òîáû âû ñìîãëè ñäåëàòü âñå ïðàâèëüíî è íå òîðîïÿñü, ïîòîìó ÷òî ýòî îñíîâà Âàøåãî áèçíåñà. ************* ÑÎÂÅÒÛ Ê ÓÑÏÅÕÓ ************ *Ñ×ÈÒÀÉÒÅ ÝÒÎ ÑÂÎÈÌ ÁÈÇÍÅÑÎÌ!!! Áóäüòå áûñòðûìè, ïðîôåññèîíàëüíûìè è ïðèäåðæèâàéòåñü èíñòðóêöèé. *Çàêàæèòå ñåáå ÷åòûðå REPORT's ÏÐßÌÎ ÑÅÉ×ÀÑ, ÷òîáû âû èõ èìåëè, êîãäà ê âàì íà÷íóò ïðèõîäèòü çàêàçû, ïîòîìó ÷òî: *Êîãäà ïîëó÷èòå $5 ÑØÀ, âû ÄÎËÆÍÛ ïîñëàòü æåëàåìûé ïðîäóêò (REPORT)! * ÂÑÅÃÄÀ ÎÒÏÐÀÂËßÉÒÅ ÇÀÊÀÇÛ Â ÒÎÒ ÄÅÍÜ ÊÎÃÄÀ ÎÍÈ ÏÐÈÉÄÓÒ!!!! *Áóäüòå òåðïåëèâû è íå ñäàâàéòåñü!! Åñëè áóäåòå òî÷íî èñïîëíÿòü ïðåäïèñàíèÿ, Âàøè ðåçóëüòàòû ÁÓÄÓÒ ÓÑÏÅØÍÛÌÈ!!!! *À ÃËÀÂÍÎÅ, ÂÅÐÜÒÅ Â ÑÅÁß È ÒÎÌÓ, ×ÒÎ Ó ÂÀÑ ÏÎËÓ×ÈÒÜÑß!!!!!!! ************ ÍÀØÈ ÐßÄÛ ÓÑÏÅÕÀ *********** Ïðèäåðæèâàéòåñü ýòèõ ðÿäîâ è ó âàñ âñå ïîëó÷èòüñÿ: Åñëè íå ïîëó÷èòå 20 çàêàçîâ íà Report #1 â òå÷åíèè äâóõ íåäåëü, ïðîäîëæàéòå äåëàòü ðåêëàìó è ïîñûëàòü e-mail, äî òåõ ïîð, ïîêà èõ íå ïîëó÷èòå. Ïîòîì âû â òå÷åíèè íåñêîëüêèõ íåäåëü Âû äîëæíû ïîëó÷èòü çàêàçû íà Report #2. 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    Ñïàñèáî çà Âàøå âðåìÿ è èíòåðåñ. Îá ýòîì ïèñüìå íåäàâíî áûëî íàïèñàíî â àìåðèêàíñêèõ ãàçåòàõ. Òàêæå, ââèäó åãî ïîïóëÿðíîñòè â Èíòåðíåòå, ãëàâíàÿ íî÷íàÿ èíôîðìàöèîííàÿ ïðîãðàììà ïîñâåòèëà åìó öåëóþ ïåðåäà÷ó íà îáúÿñíåíèå è âûÿñíåíèå, äåéñòâèòåëüíî ëè íèæå îïèñàííàÿ ïðîãðàììà ìîæåò ïðèíåñòè ëþäÿì äåíüãè. Òàêæå ïðîâåäåíî èññëåäîâàíèå ëåãàëüíîñòè äàííîé ïðîãðàììû.  ðåçóëüòàòå êîòîðîãî, ðàç è íàâñåãäà ïîäòâåðäèëîñü, ÷òî íå íàðóøàþòñÿ íèêàêèå çàêîíû è ïîñòàíîâëåíèÿ. Ýòî ïîìîãëî ïîêàçàòü ëþäÿì, ÷òî ýòî ïðîñòîé, áåçâðåäíûé è èíòåðåñíûé ñïîñîá çàðàáîòêà äåíåã íà äîìó. Âû ïîéìåòå ñóòü, êàê òîëüêî ïðî÷èòàåòå ýòî ðóêîâîäñòâî.

     

     

    Íàïå÷àòàéòå ýòîò äîêóìåíò ñåé÷àñ, äëÿ ïîñëåäóþùåãî ÷òåíèÿ.

    (Èíôîðìàöèÿ òðåáóåò âíèìàòåëüíîãî ïðî÷òåíèÿ)

    Ñëåäóþùàÿ âîçìîæíîñòü, ïðèíîñèò äîõîä , è ìîæåò Âàñ çàèíòåðåñîâàòü.

    Åñòü âîçìîæíîñòü åå íà÷àòü ñ ìèíèìàëüíûìè èíâåñòèöèÿìè, à äîõîä ïðîñòî ÏÎÐÀÇÈÒÅËÜÍÛÉ!!!!!

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    Õîòèòå çàðàáîòàòü 50.000,- USD ìåíüøå ÷åì çà 90 äíåé!? Ïîæàëóéñòà, ïðî÷èòàéòå äàííóþ ïðîãðàììó, ñíà÷àëà ÿ ýòîìó òîæå íå âåðèë, îäíàêî ýòî òàê!!!

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    Ýòî íå òðåáóåò, ÷òîáû âû âñòðå÷àëèñü ñ ëþäüìè (êàê âî ìíîãèõ äðóãèõ ïîäîáíûõ ïðåäëîæåíèÿõ)!!! Ìîæåòå ðàáîòàòü ñâîèì òåìïîì. Ñàìîå ëó÷øåå ýòî òî, ÷òî íåò íåîáõîäèìîñòè ïîêèäàòü ñâîé äîì. Åñëè âû âåðèòå, ÷òî êîãäà-íèáóäü, â îäèí ïðåêðàñíûé äåíü, ó Âàñ ïîÿâèòüñÿ âîçìîæíîñòü äîëãî îòäûõàòü, òàê ýòo, èìåííî, è åñòü òàêàÿ ÂÎÇÌÎÆÍÎÑÒÜ!!!!!

    Ïðîñòî, ñëåäóéòå äàííîé èíñòðóêöèè, è Âàø ñîí èñïîëíèòñÿ. Ýòîò áèçíåñ - Multi-level-E-MAIL òîðãîâëÿ ïî çàêàçàì, ïðîãðàììà äåéñòâóåò ïðåâîñõîäíî íà 100% è êîãäà è ãäå óãîäíî. E-mail ÿâëÿåòñÿ òîðãîâûì èíñòðóìåíòîì áóäóùåãî!!! Èñïîëüçóéòå ýòîò íåêîììåð÷åñêèé ìåòîä ðåêëàìû. Ñäåëàéòå ýòî ñåé÷àñ!!! ×åì äîëüøå áóäåòå æäàòü, òåì áîëüøå ëþäåé áóäåò äåëàòü ýòîò áèçíåññ. Âîçüìèòå ñåáå ÷àñòü ÝÒÎÉ ÀÊÖÈÈ!! MULTI-LEVEL-MARKETING (MLM) íàêîíåö-òî äîñòèã óâàæåíèÿ. Îí ïðåïîäàåòñÿ â Ãàðâàðäñêîé òîðãîâîé øêîëå. Ñòýíôîðäñêèé èññëåäîâàòåëüñêèé èíñòèòóò è æóðíàë Wall Street çàÿâèëè, ÷òî 50-65% âñåõ òîâàðîâ è óñëóã äî êîíöà òûñÿ÷åëåòèÿ áóäóò ïðîäàâàòüñÿ ïîñðåäñòâîì multi-level ìåòîäîâ. Ýòî ìíîãî ìèëëèàðäíàÿ äîëëàðîâàÿ èíäóñòðèÿ, è òîëüêî èç 500,000 ìèëëèîíåðîâ â ÑØÀ, öåëûõ 20% (100.000 ÷åëîâåê) ñäåëàëè ñâîå ñîñòîÿíèå çà ïîñëåäíèå ïàðó ëåò áëàãîäàðÿ MLM. À åùå, ñòàòèñòèêà ïîêàçûâàåò, ÷òî 45 ÷åëîâåê êàæäûé äåíü ñòàíîâÿòñÿ ìèëëèîíåðàìè áëàãîäàðÿ Multi-Level-Marketing. Âîçìîæíî, ÷òî âû óæå ñëûøàëè èñòîðèþ, êàê Äîíàëüä Òðàìï ëåòîì íàâåñòèë øîó Äåâèäà Ëåòòåðìàíà. Äåâèä ñïðîñèë åãî, ÷òîáû îí äåëàë åñëè áû ïîòåðÿë âñå ñâîå ñîñòîÿíèå è âûíóæäåí áûë íà÷àòü âñå ñ íà÷àëà. Äîíàëüä áåç êîëåáàíèÿ îòâåòèë, ÷òî íàøåë áû õîðîøóþ MLM ôèðìó è íà÷àë ðàáîòàòü. Ïóáëèêà íà÷àëà ñâèñòåòü âûðàæàÿ íåñîãëàñèå. Äîíàëüä ïîñìîòðåë íà çðèòåëüíûé çàë è ñåðüåçíî ïðîèçíåñ: "Áëàãîäàðÿ ýòîìó ÿ çäåñü íàâåðõó, à âû òàì, âíèçó!"

    Ñ ñåòåâûì ìàðêåòèíãîì âû èìååòå äâà èñòî÷íèêà ïðèáûëè: Ïðÿìàÿ ïðèáûëü ñ ïðîäàæè, êîòîðóþ ïðîâîäèòå Âû ñàìè è ïðèáûëü ñ îáîðîòà ëþäåé, êîòîðûõ ïðèâåäåòå â áèçíåñ. Áåñêîíå÷íàÿ ïðèáûëü ÿâëÿåòñÿ òàéíîé áîãàòñòâà. Ýòî çíà÷èò îäèí ðàç èíâåñòèðîâàòü âðåìÿ èëè äåíüãè à ïîòîì ïîëó÷àòü äåíüãè ñíîâà è ñíîâà.  ñåòåâîì ìàðêåòèíãå ýòî òàêæå îçíà÷àåò ïîëó÷àòü äåíüãè çà ðàáîòó äðóãèõ.

    Ê ñîæàëåíèþ, ïðî÷èòàâ ýòî ïèñüìî âïåðâûå, ÿ ïðàêòè÷åñêè ïðîïóñòèë òàêóþ âîçìîæíîñòü ñêâîçü ïàëüöû, è äàæå íå ñòàë ÷èòàòü äàëüøå, íî âñêîðå ÿ ïåðå÷èòàë âñå çàíîâî. Çàäóìàëñÿ è ïîíÿë âñþ ñèëó ýòîãî ïðåäëîæåíèÿ.

    È òåïåðü ÿ áîãàò è ñâîáîäåí. ß ìîãó äóõîâíî ðàçâèâàòüñÿ, îòäûõàòü, íàäî ìíîé íåò ãíåòà íà÷àëüñòâà, ìîåé ñåìüå è ìíå íå ìåøàåò óíèçèòåëüíàÿ áåäíîñòü è áîðüáà çà êóñîê õëåáà, ìåøàÿ ÷åëîâå÷åñêîé æèçíè...

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    Íàïðèìåð, âîò ÷òî ãîâîðèò ìèñòåð Äæåðè Ïðîêòîð, àìåðèêàíñêèé ìèëëèîíåð.

    Äâà ãîäà íàçàä áûëà óïðàçäíåíà ìîÿ äîëæíîñòü â ôèðìå, â êîòîðîé ÿ ðàáîòàë ïîñëåäíèõ ïÿòíàäöàòü ëåò. Ïîñëå íåñêîëüêèõ íåóñïåøíûõ ñîáåñåäîâàíèé ÿ ðåøèë íà÷àòü ñâîé ñîáñòâåííûé áèçíåñ.  òå÷åíèè ïðîøëûõ ëåò ÿ ïðîøåë ìíîãî ôèíàíñîâûõ çàòðóäíåíèé. ß áûë äîëæåí ñâîåé ñåìüå, äðóçüÿì è êðåäèòîðàì áîëåå 35.000,- USD. ß áûë âûíóæäåí çàëîæèòü ñâîé äîì, ÷òîáû ïðîêîðìèòü ñâîþ ñåìüþ è óäåðæàòü ñâîé áèçíåñ.  ÝÒÎÒ ÌÎÌÅÍÒ ïðîèçîøëî íå÷òî âûäàþùååñÿ â ìîåé æèçíè, è ÿ ïèøó äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû ïîäåëèòüñÿ îá ýòîì çíàìåíàòåëüíîì ñîáûòèè ñ Âàìè.  ñåðåäèíå äåêàáðÿ 1998 ÿ ïîëó÷èë e-mail ñ ýòîé ïðîãðàììîé. Ïåðåä ýòèì ÿ øåñòü ìåñÿöåâ èñêàë ðàçíûå òîðãîâûå âîçìîæíîñòè. Âñå ïðîãðàììû, êîòîðûå ÿ ïîëó÷èë íå áûëè ýôôåêòèâíûìè (ïî êðàéíåé ìåðå íà ìîé âçãëÿä). Îíè áûëè èëè ñëèøêîì ñëîæíûìè èëè òðåáîâàëè áîëüøèõ èíâåñòèöèé, à ðèñêîâàòü ñâîèì âêëàäîì, ÷òîáû óçíàòü äåéñòâóåò ýòî èëè íåò, ÿ íå õîòåë. Êàê ÿ óæå ãîâîðèë, â äåêàáðå 1998 ÿ ïîëó÷èë ýòó ïðîãðàììó. ß íå õîòåë åå ïîëó÷àòü, ïðîñòî, ïîëó÷èë òàê æå êàê è Âû. Ñïàñèáî Áîãó çà ýòî! ß ïðî÷èòàë ïðîãðàììó íåñêîëüêî ðàç, ïîòîìó ÷òî íå ìîã â íåå ïîâåðèòü, è ïðèíÿëñÿ çà ðàáîòó. ß ìîã èíâåñòèðîâàòü òîëüêî ñòîëüêî äåíåã, ñêîëüêî â äàííûé ìîìåíò áûëî âîçìîæíî. Òàê æå êàê è Âû ÿ áûë ñêåïòè÷åí è íåìíîãî áîÿëñÿ î ëåãàëüíîñòè äàííîé ïðîãðàììû. Ïîñëå èñêëþ÷åíèÿ òîãî, ÷òî ïðîãðàììà ìîæåò áûòü íåëåãàëüíîé, ÿ ñêàçàë ñåáå, ïî÷åìó áû ìíå ýòî íå ïîïðîáîâàòü. Ïîòîì ÿ ïîñëàë îêîëî 10.000 e-mail. Ñòîèëî ìíå ýòî îêîëî 15,- USD çà ìîå âðåìÿ on-line. Ïðåâîñõîäíîå ñâîéñòâî e-mail ñîñòîèò â òîì, ÷òî íå íàäî íè÷åãî ïå÷àòàòü, à íóæíî òîëüêî ïîñûëàòü. Òàê êàê âñå çàêàçû îôîðìëÿþòñÿ ÷åðåç e-mail, òî ìîåé èíâåñòèöèåé áûëî òîëüêî ìîå âðåìÿ, êîòîðîå ÿ ïðîâåë ó êîìïüþòåðà. Ãîâîðþ Âàì êàê ýòî áûëî, íàäåþñü, ÷òî Âàñ ýòî íå ðàçî÷àðóåò, òàê êàê ÿ ïîîáåùàë ñåáå, ÷òî íèêîãî íå îáìàíó, ÷åãî áû ìíå ýòî íå ñòîèëî. Ìåíüøå ÷åì ÷åðåç íåäåëþ ÿ íà÷àë ïîëó÷àòü çàêàçû íà REPORT #1. Äî 13 ÿíâàðÿ 1999 ÿ ïîëó÷èë 26 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #1. Âàøåé öåëüþ ÿâëÿåòñÿ ïîëó÷èòü ìèíèìàëüíî 20 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #1  ÒÅ×ÅÍÈÈ ÄÂÓÕ ÍÅÄÅËÜ. ÅÑËÈ ÂÛ ÈÕ ÍÅ ÏÎËÓ×ÈÒÅ, ÏÎØËÅÒÅ ÁÎËÜØÅ ÄÀÍÍÛÕ ÏÐÎÃÐÀÌÌ, ÄËß ÒÎÃÎ ×ÒÎÁÛ ÈÕ ÏÎËÓ×ÈÒÜ! Ìîé øàã ê ïîëó÷åíèþ 50.000,- USD çà 90 äíåé áûë ñäåëàí. Äî 30 ÿíâàðÿ 1999 ÿ ïîëó÷èë 196 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #2. Âàøåé öåëüþ ÿâëÿåòñÿ ïîëó÷èòü ìèíèìàëüíî 100 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #2 â òå÷åíèè äâóõ íåäåëü. Åñëè ýòî íå ïîëó÷èòñÿ, òàê ðàññûëàéòå áîëüøå ýòèõ ïðîãðàìì. Êàê òîëüêî äîñòèãíèòå 100 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #2 òî âñå îñòàëüíîå áóäåò â ïîðÿäêå è Âû òî÷íî ïîëó÷èòå ñâîè 50.000,- USD. Ó ìåíÿ áûëî 196 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #2, òî åñòü íà 96 áîëüøå ÷åì ìíå áûëî íóæíî. Ïîýòîìó ÿ ñåë è îòäûõàë. Äî 1 ìàðòà 1999 çà ñâîè 10.000 îòîñëàíûõ e-mail ÿ ïîëó÷èë 58.000,- USD è êàæäûé äåíü ïðèõîäèëè íîâûå äåíüãè. ß çàïëàòèë ñâîè äîëãè è êóïèë ñåáå ìàøèíó. Ïîæàëóéñòà, íàéäèòå âðåìÿ è âíèìàòåëüíî ïðî÷èòàéòå ýòó ïðîãðàììó. ÝÒÎ ÍÀÂÑÅÃÄÀ ÈÇÌÅÍÈÒ ÂÀØÓ ÆÈÇÍÜ!!! Ïîìíèòå, ÷òî ýòî íå çàðàáîòàåò, ïîêà âû ýòî íå ïîïðîáóåòå! Ýòà ïðîãðàììà äåéñòâóåò, íî Âû äîëæíû òî÷íî ïðèäåðæèâàòüñÿ ðåêîìåíäàöèé!!

    Ñïåöèàëüíîå ïðàâèëî - íå ñòàðàéòåñü âïèñûâàòü Âàøå èìÿ òàì, ãäå ýòî íå íóæíî. Ýòî íå áóäåò äåéñòâîâàòü, à Âû íåäîïîëó÷èòå ìíîãî äåíåã!! Áîëåå òîãî, ïðè èçìåíåíèè äàííûõ ïðîäàâöîâ èíà÷å, ÷åì ýòî óêàçàíî â èíñòðóêöèè íèæå, äàííûé âèä ïðåäïðèíèìàòåëüñòâà ñòàíîâèòñÿ íåëåãàëüíûì. Ñíîâà ïîâòîðÿþ, ÷òî â ñëó÷àå ñîáëþäåíèÿ âñåõ íèæåóêàçàííûõ ðåêîìåíäàöèé, ðå÷ü èäåò î ëåãàëüíîì ïðåäïðèíèìàòåëüñòâå!! Äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû âû äîñòèãëè ñâîåé öåëè íåîáõîäèìî ïîëó÷èòü 20 è áîëüøå çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #1 è 100 è áîëüøå íà REPORT #2.  ýòîì ñëó÷àå çàðàáîòàåòå 50.000,- USD (èëè áîëüøå) çà 90 äíåé! ß - ÐÅÀËÜÍÎÅ ÄÎÊÀÇÀÒÅËÜÑÒÂÎ ÒÎÃÎ, ×ÒÎ ÝÒÎ ÍÀ ÑÀÌÎÌ ÄÅËÅ ÄÅÉÑÒÂÓÅÒ!!! Åñëè âû ðåøèëèñü, ÷òî â ýòîé ïðîãðàììå ó÷àñòâîâàòü íå áóäåòå, òàê ìíå âàñ èñêðåííå æàëü. Òàê êàê ýòî ðåàëüíàÿ ïðåâîñõîäíàÿ âîçìîæíîñòü ñ ìèíèìàëüíûì ðèñêîì è èíâåñòèöèÿìè! Åñëè õîòèòå ó÷àñòâîâàòü, ïðèäåðæèâàéòåñü äàííûõ ðåêîìåíäàöèé è áóäåòå íà äîðîãå ê ôèíàíñîâîé íåçàâèñèìîñòè. Åñëè çàíèìàåòåñü ïðåäïðèíèìàòåëüñòâîì èëè õîòèòå íà÷àòü ñâîé ñîáñòâåííûé áèçíåñ, òàê ñ÷èòàéòå ýòî çà õîðîøóþ âîçìîæíîñòü. ß ÝÒÎ ÑÄÅËÀË !!!

    Ñ óâàæåíèåì Äæåðè Ïðîêòîð.

     

     

     

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    (ËÈ×ÍÀß ÇÀÌÅÒÊÀ ÎÒ ÎÑÍÎÂÀÒÅËß ÝÒÎÉ ÏÐÎÃÐÀÌÌÛ)

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    Ïåðåä òåì êàê ïðî÷èòàåòå ýòó ïðîãðàììó, âû äîëæíû ïîíÿòü, ÷òî ýòà ëåãàëüíàÿ ïðîãðàììà íå ìîãëà áûëà áûòü ñîçäàíà ëþáèòåëåì. Ïîçâîëüòå ìíå íåìíîãî ðàññêàçàòü î ñåáå. Öåëûõ 10 ëåò ó ìåíÿ áûë ñîáñòâåííûé ðàçâèâàþùèéñÿ áèçíåñ.  1979 ãîäó ìîé áèçíåñ íà÷àë ðóøèòüñÿ. ß äåëàë âñå, ÷òî ìíå äî ýòîãî ïðèíîñèëî óñïåõ, íî áåçóñïåøíî. Íàêîíåö ÿ ïîíÿë, ÷òî ýòî íå èç-çà ìåíÿ, à èç-çà ýêîíîìèêè, êîòîðàÿ íàñ ñîïðîâîæäàëà ñ 1945 ãîäà. Äóìàþ íå íóæíî Âàì îáúÿñíÿòü, êàê ýòî ïîâëèÿëî íà áåçðàáîòèöó â ñòðàíå, ìíîãèå èç Âàñ ýòî çíàþò ïî ñîáñòâåííîìó îïûòó. Ïðèøëî ìíîãî ïàäåíèé è áàíêðîòîâ. Ñðåäíèé êëàññ èñ÷åçàë, òå, êîòîðûå çíàëè ÷òî äåëàþò, ìóäðî èíâåñòèðîâàëè è ïðîäâèíóëèñü âûøå, à òå êòî íå çíàë, ïàäàëè âñå íèæå, â áåäíîòó. Êàê ãîâîðèò èçâåñòíàÿ ïîãîâîðêà: "ÁÎÃÀÒÛÅ ÁÎÃÀÒÅÞÒ, À ÁÅÄÍÛÅ ÁÅÄÍÅÞÒ". Òðàäèöèîííûå ñïîñîáû çàðàáîòêà äåíåã íèêîãäà íå ïîçâîëÿò Âàì âûñîêî ïîäíÿòüñÿ, à èíôëÿöèÿ òîëüêî ýòîìó ïîìîæåò. Ñåé÷àñ âû ïîëó÷èëè ïèñüìî, êîòîðîå ìîæåò äàòü Âàì ôèíàíñîâóþ íåçàâèñèìîñòü íà âñþ Âàøó æèçíü è "ÁÅÇ ÐÈÑÊÀ" è ñ "ÌÈÍÈÌÀËÜÍÛÌÈ ÓÑÈËÈßÌÈ".  ïîñëåäóþùèõ ìåñÿöàõ Âû ñìîæåòå çàðàáîòàòü äåíåã áîëüøå, ÷åì ìîæåòå ñåáå ïðåäñòàâèòü. Íóæíî ïîä÷åðêíóòü, ÷òî ÿ ñ ýòèõ äåíåã íå óâèæó íè öåíòà. Êàê è íèêòî èç ëþäåé, êîòîðûå òåñòèðîâàëè äàííóþ ïðîãðàììó. ß óæå çàðàáîòàë áîëåå 4.000.000,- USD!!! Ïåðåñòàë èñïîëüçîâàòü ýòó ïðîãðàììó ïîñëå òîãî, êàê ïîñëàë 16.000 ïðîãðàìì. Ñåé÷àñ ó ìåíÿ íåñêîëüêî ôèðì, êîòîðûå èçîáðåòàþò ïîäîáíûå ïðîãðàììû. Âûïîëíÿéòå ïðîãðàììó ÒÎ×ÍÎ ÏÎ ÈÍÑÒÐÓÊÖÈÈ!! Íå èçìåíÿéòå åå íèêàêèì îáðàçîì!! Îíà äåéñòâóåò ìàêñèìàëüíî ýôôåêòèâíî èìåííî â ýòîì âèäå. Íå çàáóäüòå ïîñëàòü êîïèþ ýòîé ïðîãðàììû êàæäîìó, êîãî òîëüêî âñïîìíèòå! Îäèí ÷åëîâåê, êîòîðîìó âû ýòî ïîøëåòå ìîæåò ïîñëàòü è 50.000 êîïèé ... à Âàøå èìÿ áóäåò íà êàæäîé èç íèõ!!! Ïîìíèòå, ÷òî ÷åì áîëüøå ïðîãðàìì âû ïîøëåòå, òåì áîëüøå ïîòåíöèàëüíûõ çàêàç÷èêîâ ïðèîáðåòåòå! Òàê ÷òî, äðóçüÿ, ÿ ïðåäîñòàâëÿþ Âàì âîçìîæíîñòü, èíôîðìàöèþ, ìàòåðèàë äëÿ òîãî ÷òîáû âû ïîëó÷èëè ôèíàíñîâóþ íåçàâèñèìîñòü. ÒÅÏÅÐÜ ÝÒÎ ÇÀÂÈÑÈÒ ÒÎËÜÊÎ ÎÒ ÂÀÑ! "ÏÎÄÓÌÀÉÒÅ ÎÁ ÝÒÎÌ" ïåðåä òåì êàê óäàëèòå ýòîò mail, êàê ÷óòü íå ñäåëàë ÿ. Îòâåäèòå ñåáå íåìíîãî âðåìåíè, ïðî÷òèòå è ïî-íàñòîÿùåìó ïîäóìàéòå íàä ýòèì.

    Âîçüìèòå ðó÷êó è ïîñ÷èòàéòå, ÷òî ìîæåò èç ýòîãî ïîëó÷èòüñÿ, åñëè Âû ýòî ïîïðîáóåòå. Âîçüìèòå ñàìûé ïëîõîé âàðèàíò, íî è â ýòîì ñëó÷àå ó âàñ áóäåò ìíîãî äåíåã.  ñàìîì õóäøåì ñëó÷àå ïîëó÷èòå ñâîþ èíâåñòèöèþ íàçàä. Âñå ñîìíåíèÿ, êîòîðûå ó âàñ åñòü, èñ÷åçíóò, êîãäà ïîëó÷èòå ñâîé ïåðâûé çàêàç. ÝÒÎ ÄÅÉÑÒÂÓÅÒ!!!!!

    Jody Jacobs, Richmond,VA.

    À ÒÅÏÅÐÜ, ÂÎÒ ÝÒÀ ÏÅÐÂÎÑÕÎÄÍÀß ÏÐÎÃÐÀÌÌÀ, ÊÎÒÎÐÀß ÂÀÌ ÇÀÐÀÁÎÒÀÅÒ ÒÛÑß×È ÄÎËËÀÐÎÂ!!!!!

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    ÈÍÑÒÐÓÊÖÈß : Ýòîò ìåòîä çàðàáîòêà äåíåã íà ñàìîì äåëå ÄÅÉÑÒÂÓÅÒ ÍÀ 100%, ÊÎÃÄÀ ÓÃÎÄÍÎ, ÃÄÅ ÓÃÎÄÍÎ. ß óâåðåí, ÷òî Âû ñìîæåòå çàðàáîòàòü áîëåå 50.000,- USD â ïîñëåäóþùèå 90 äíåé. Ïåðåä òåì êàê ñêàçàòü "ãëóïîñòü..." ïîæàëóéñòà ïðî÷èòàéòå âíèìàòåëüíî è âíèêíèòå â ñóòü ýòîé ïðîãðàììû. Ýòî íå öåïíîå ïèñüìî, à îòëè÷íàÿ ëåãàëüíàÿ âîçìîæíîñòü çàðàáîòàòü äåíüãè.  ÷åì ñìûñë? Òàê êàê è â ëþáîé multi-level ñõåìå, òîðãîâëÿ ñòðîèòñÿ íà ïðèâëå÷åíèè íîâûõ ïàðòíåðîâ è ïðîäàæå ñâîèõ òîâàðîâ. ÇÀÊÀÇÛ Ê ÂÀÌ ÏÐÈÕÎÄßÒ È ÂÛÏÎËÍßÞÒÑß ÏÎ E-MAIL, ïîýòîìó íå âîçíèêàåò ëè÷íîãî êîíòàêòà. Äåëàåòñÿ âñå äîìà èëè â ó÷ðåæäåíèè. Ýòî ñàìàÿ áîëüøàÿ multi-level âîçìîæíîñòü íà ñâåòå!!!!! È ÝÒÎ ÍÅ ÏÐÅÓÂÅËÈ×ÅÍÈÅ!!

     

    Ñóùåñòâóåò äâà îñíîâíûõ ìåòîäà äëÿ ñòðîèòåëüñòâà âàøèõ íèæíèõ óðîâíåé:

    Ìåòîä #1- ÏÎÑÛËÊÀ ÌÀÑÑÎÂÎÉ E-MAIL ÐÅÊËÀÌÛ

    Ïðåäïîëîæèì, íàïðèìåð, ÷òî Âû õîòèòå íà÷àòü ñ ìàëîãî êîëè÷åñòâà, òîëüêî äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû ïîñìîòðåòü êàê ýòî äåéñòâóåò. Äîïóñòèì, ÷òî Âû è âñå âîâëå÷åííûå Âàìè êîìïàíüîíû ïîøëåòå òîëüêî 2.000 e-mail (êàæäûé èç Âàñ). Òàêæå ïðåäïîëîæèì, ÷òî ïîëó÷èòå âñåãî 0,5% îòâåòîâ. Åñëè èñïîëüçóåòå õîðîøèé ïåðå÷åíü àäðåñîâ òî 1%. Ïîòîì ìíîãî ëþäåé ðàçîøëþò óæå ñîòíè òûñÿ÷ ýòèõ ïðîãðàìì, áëàãîäàðÿ âàøèì 2.000. Ïðîäîëæèì íàø ïðèìåð, âû ïîñëàëè 2.000 ïðîãðàìì. Èç 0,5% îòâåòîâ ýòî òîëüêî 10 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #1. Ýòèõ äåñÿòü ÷åëîâåê ïîñëàëî 20.000 ïðîãðàìì, ÷òî ïðè 0,5% - óæå 100 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #2. Êàæäûé èç ýòèõ 100 ïîñëàëè ïî 2.000 ïðîãðàìì, à Âû ïîëó÷èëè 1.000 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #3, à åñëè êàæäûé èç ýòèõ 1.000 ïîøëåò 2.000 ñâîèõ ïðîãðàìì, òàê ïðè 0,5% ïîëó÷èòå 10.000 çàêàçîâ íà REPORT #4. À ýòî 10.000 õ 5 = 50.000 USD â íàëè÷íîñòè!!!!! Âàø êîíå÷íûé çàðàáîòîê â ýòîì ñëó÷àå áóäåò: 50+500+5.000+50.000 = 55.550,- USD!!!!!!! Ïîìíèòå, ÷òî ýòî ïðåäïîëîæåíèå äëÿ 1990 ÷åëîâåê. Òå, êîòîðûå íå çàõîòÿò ó÷àñòâîâàòü, ýòó âîçìîæíîñòü óäàëÿò, è íè÷åãî íå ñëó÷èòñÿ! Ïîïðîáóéòå ïîäóìàòü ìèíóòêó! À ÷òî åñëè êàæäûé ïîøëåò 100.000 ïðîãðàìì âìåñòî 2.000 ?! Âåðüòå ìíå, ÷òî ëþäè ýòî ñäåëàþò, âîçìîæíî è áîëüøå! Ìåæäó ïðî÷èì, Âàø ôèíàíñîâûé âêëàä ÿâëÿåòñÿ ìèíèìàëüíûì... Âû óæå èìååòå ïîäêëþ÷åíèå ê Èíòåðíåò, à e-mail - áåñïëàòåí!

    REPORT #2 Âàì ïîêàæåò ñàìûå ëó÷øèå ìåòîäû ìàññîâîé ðàññûëêè e-mail è ãäå ìîæíî íàéòè ïåðå÷åíü àäðåñîâ.

    ÌÅÒÎÄ #2 - ÁÅÑÏËÀÒÍÀß ÐÅÊËÀÌÀ Â ÈÍÒÅÐÍÅÒÅ

    Ðåêëàìà â Èíòåðíåòå ÿâëÿåòñÿ íåòðåáîâàòåëüíîé è ñóùåñòâóåò òûñÿ÷à ÁÅÑÏËÀÒÍÛÕ ìåñò äëÿ ðåêëàìû. Ñêàæåì, íàïðèìåð, ÷òî âû íà÷íåòå ñêðîìíî, òîëüêî äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû óçíàòü äåéñòâóåò ëè ýòî. Âàøåé öåëüþ áû áûëî íàéòè âñåãî ëèøü 10 ÷åëîâåê íà ïåðâûé óðîâåíü òî åñòü òåõ, êòî çàêàçàë áû ó Âàñ REPORT#1 (ðàçìåùåíèåì áåñïëàòíûõ îáúÿâëåíèé â Èíòåðíåò ëåãêî íàéòè è áîëüøåå êîëè÷åñòâî çàêàçîâ).

    Äàëüøå ïðåäïîëîæèì, ÷òî êàæäûé èç Âàøåé îðãàíèçàöèè íàéäåò òîëüêî 10 ÷åëîâåê. Ïîñìîòðèì íà ïðèìåðå è óâèäèì, ÷òî ïðîèçîéäåò:

    2. 1-é level - âàøèõ 10 êëèåíòîâ ïî 5 USD.............................50,- USD.
    3. 2-é level - ïî 10 êëèåíòîâ îò òåõ 10-òè (5,- USD x 100) ........ 500,- USD.
    4. 3-é level - ýòî óæå 1.000 êëèåíòîâ (5,- USD x 1.000) ........5.000,- USD.
    5. 4-é level - 10.000 êëèåíòîâ (5,- USD x 10.000) ............... 50.000,- USD.

    Èòîãî 55.550,- USD.

    Ïîìíèòå, ÷òî ýòî òîëüêî ïðèìåð äëÿ 10 êëèåíòîâ. Ìíîãèå ëþäè íàéäóò ñîòíè êëèåíòîâ!!! ÏÎÄÓÌÀÉÒÅ ÎÁ ÝÒÎÌ!!! Âñå, ÷òî âû äîëæíû ñäåëàòü, çà êàæäûå $5 USD, êîòîðûå ïîëó÷èòå â ñâîé êîøåëåê - ýòî ïîñëàòü ïîêóïàòåëþ çàêàçàííûé REPORT. È ÝÒÎ ÂÑÅ!!! ÂÑÅÃÄÀ ÎÒÏÐÀÂËßÉÒÅ ÇÀÊÀÇÛ Â ÒÎÒ ÄÅÍÜ, ÊÎÃÄÀ ÎÍÈ ÏÐÈÉÄÓÒ!!! Ýòî Âàì ãàðàíòèðóåò, ÷òî e-mail, êîòîðûå áóäóò ïîñûëàòü ñ ÂÀØÈÌ èìåíåì, áóäóò áûñòðåå ðàñïðîñòðàíÿòüñÿ, ïîòîìó ÷òî îíè íå ìîãóò áûòü ïîñëàíû ïîêà REPORT's íåò ó âàøåãî çàêàç÷èêà!!!

    ÈÒÀÊ, ÄÎÑÒÓÏÍÛÅ REPORT's:

    ****** Çàêàæè ñåáå êàæäûé èç íèõ ñîãëàñíî íîìåðó è íàçâàíèþ ******

     

    ÇÀÊÀÆÈÒÅ ÑÅÁÅ REPORT's ÑÅÉ×ÀÑ !!!

     

    Òàáëèöà 1. REPORT's è ðåêâèçèòû ïðîäàâöîâ.

    ¹ Ïåðå÷åíü REPORT's R- è Z- êîøåëüêè ïðîäàâöà E-mail ïðîäàâöà
    1 REPORT #1 "Ðóêîâîäñòâî ïî áåñïëàòíîé è ýôôåêòèâíîé ðåêëàìå â Èíòåðíåò" R871542342557

    Z469857407500

    		 WM_13@yahoo.com
    2 REPORT #2 "Ðóêîâîäñòâî ïî ìàññîâîé ðåêëàìíîé ðàññûëêå E-Mail " R803112125203

    Z460897718401

    		 verysimplejob@yahoo.com
    3 REPORT #3 "Ñåêðåòû ìíîãîóðîâíåâîãî ìàðêåòèíãà â Èíòåðíåò" R916511407235

    Z601004161913

    		 poul007@narod.ru
    4 REPORT #4 "Êàê ñòàòü ìèëëèîíåðîì, èñïîëüçóÿ MLM è Èíòåðíåò" R117465742973

    Z095492416150

    		 asebo@mail.ru

    Ñ ëþáûì èç ïðîäàâöîâ âñåãäà ìîæíî ñâÿçàòüñÿ ÷åðåç åãî e-mail. Íî, ïîæàëóéñòà, íå çàãðóæàéòå èõ ëèøíèìè âîïðîñàìè, îíè ìîãóò áûòü î÷åíü çàíÿòû îáðàáîòêîé çàêàçîâ (îñîáåííî íà òðåòüåì è ÷åòâåðòûõ óðîâíÿõ).

    ÂÎÒ, ×ÒÎ ÍÓÆÍÎ ÑÄÅËÀÒÜ ÂÀÌ:

    1. Ñêîïèðîâàòü ïðîãðàììó WebMoney keeper 2 è ñîçäàòü ñåáå ðóáëåâûé R-êîøåëåê.

    Èíñòðóêöèè ïî ðàáîòå ñ êîøåëüêîì è èíôîðìàöèÿ îá ýòîé ñèñòåìå ïëàòåæåé

    íà ñàéòå http://www.webmoney.ru

    2. Ïîïîëíèòü ÑÂÎÉ êîøåëåê ðóáëåâûì ýêâèâàëåíòîì $20 + 3% ïî êóðñó ÖÁ, âûáðàâ

    ëþáîé èç äîñòóïíûõ íà http://www.webmoney.ru/rus/perevods.htm ñïîñîáîâ ïåðåâîäà.

    3. Ïîñëå ïîñòóïëåíèÿ äåíåã â âàø êîøåëåê, çàêàæèòå ñåáå âñå ÷åòûðå REPORT's

    (èç ïåðå÷íÿ Òàáëèöû 1), ïóòåì ïåðåâîäà WebMoney èç ñâîåãî êîøåëüêà â êîøåëåê

    ïðîäàâöà, ñóììû $5 ÑØÀ ïî êóðñó ÖÁ, çà êàæäûé REPORT. Îáÿçàòåëüíî, óêàæèòå

    â ïîëå êîììåíòàðèÿ íîìåð REPORT è îáðàòíûé e-mail àäðåñ.

    Ïðèìåð: REPORT#1 xxxxxx@xxxx.xxx

    (Ïîäòâåðäèòå îïëàòó ïî e-mail)

    4. Â Òàáëèöå 1, óäàëèòå íîìåð êîøåëüêà èç ñòðîêè 4 è ïåðåìåñòèòå íà åãî ìåñòî

    íîìåð êîøåëüêà èç ñòðîêè 3. Çàòåì, ïåðåìåñòèòå íîìåð êîøåëüêà èç ñòðîêè 2

    â îñâîáîäèâøååñÿ ìåñòî â ñòîðîêå 3. È, íàêîíåö, ïåðåìåñòèòå íîìåð êîøåëüêà èç

    ñòðîêè 1 â ñòðîêó 2.

    Â îñâîáîäèâøååñÿ ìåñòî â ñòðîêå 1 âñòàâüòå íîìåð ñâîåãî R- êîøåëüêà.

    Òåïåðü Âû ñòàëè ïðîäàâöîì REPORT#1.

    5. Òîæå ñàìîå ïðîäåëàéòå ñ e-mail àäðåñàìè.

  • ÏÐÈÌÅ×ÀÍÈÅ:

    *Çà êàæäûé REPORT ïåðåâåäèòå ðóáëåâûé ýêâèâàëåíò $5 USD ïî êóðñó ÖÁ, ñî ñâîåãî êîøåëüêà íà íîìåð êîøåëüêà ïðîäàâöà. (USD ïîòîìó, ÷òî â ýòî âîâëå÷åíû æåëàþùèå ñî âñåãî ñâåòà). Âñå îïåðàöèè îò ñîçäàíèÿ êîøåëüêà äî îïëàòû REPORT's ïðîèçâîäÿòñÿ â ïðîãðàììå WebMoney Keeper.

    *Â êîøåëüêå, äåíüãè õðàíÿòñÿ â âèäå óñëîâíûõ åäèíèö (WebMoney).

    Ïî êóðñó 1WM = 1 ðóá. äëÿ R- êîøåëüêà

    1WM = 1 äîëëàð ÑØÀ äëÿ Z- êîøåëüêà.

    *Êîãäà ñäåëàåòå ñâîé çàêàç, óáåäèòåñü, ÷òî âû çàêàçàëè âñå REPORT. Âñå îíè ïîíàäîáÿòñÿ äëÿ òîãî, ÷òîáû Âû ñîõðàíèëè ó ñåáÿ â êîìïüþòåðå è, ïîòîì, ìîãëè ïðîäàâàòü êîïèè. Âàì äåéñòâèòåëüíî íóæíû âñå ýòè REPORT, èíà÷å ëþäè íå ñìîãóò ñäåëàòü ó âàñ çàêàç, à ñàìîå ãëàâíîå, ýòè REPORT's ñîäåðæàò âàæíóþ èíôîðìàöèþ î òîì, êàê èì äîñòè÷ü óñïåõà!! È ðàçâèâàòü ýòîò áèçíåññ.

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    Ïðèáëèçèòåëüíî 50.000 íîâûõ ëþäåé ïîäêëþ÷àþòñÿ ê Èíòåðíåòó êàæäûé ìåñÿö!

  • Ïðîâåðüòå, îñîáåííî âíèìàòåëüíî, ïðàâèëüíîñòü óêàçàíèÿ íîìåðà êîøåëüêà ïðè ïåðåâîäå. Ýòî î÷åíü âàæíî, òàê êàê ïîêà íå çàïëàòèòå ïðàâèëüíî, çàêàç íå ïðèäåò, à Âû íå ïîëó÷èòå ñâîé report. Íàéäèòå âðåìÿ, ÷òîáû âû ñìîãëè ñäåëàòü âñå ïðàâèëüíî è íå òîðîïÿñü, ïîòîìó ÷òî ýòî îñíîâà Âàøåãî áèçíåñà.

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    *Ñ×ÈÒÀÉÒÅ ÝÒÎ ÑÂÎÈÌ ÁÈÇÍÅÑÎÌ!!! Áóäüòå áûñòðûìè, ïðîôåññèîíàëüíûìè è ïðèäåðæèâàéòåñü èíñòðóêöèé.

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    * ÂÑÅÃÄÀ ÎÒÏÐÀÂËßÉÒÅ ÇÀÊÀÇÛ Â ÒÎÒ ÄÅÍÜ ÊÎÃÄÀ ÎÍÈ ÏÐÈÉÄÓÒ!!!!

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    Ïðèäåðæèâàéòåñü ýòèõ ðÿäîâ è ó âàñ âñå ïîëó÷èòüñÿ: Åñëè íå ïîëó÷èòå 20 çàêàçîâ íà Report #1 â òå÷åíèè äâóõ íåäåëü, ïðîäîëæàéòå äåëàòü ðåêëàìó è ïîñûëàòü e-mail, äî òåõ ïîð, ïîêà èõ íå ïîëó÷èòå. Ïîòîì âû â òå÷åíèè íåñêîëüêèõ íåäåëü Âû äîëæíû ïîëó÷èòü çàêàçû íà Report #2. Åñëè ýòî íå ïðîèçîéäåò, íå ïåðåñòàâàéòå ïîñûëàòü ðåêëàìó äî òåõ ïîð, ïîêà íå äîñòèãíèòå 100 çàêàçîâ íà Report #2. Êàê òîëüêî ïîëó÷èòå 100 çàêàçîâ íà Report #2, ÌÎÆÅÒÅ ÍÀ×ÀÒÜ ÎÒÄÛÕÀÒÜ, ïîòîìó ÷òî ñèñòåìà â ýòîì ñëó÷àå óæå ðàáîòàåò çà Âàñ à Âàøè äåíüãè áóäóò ïðèõîäèòü ñàìè ïî ñåáå.

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    Ýòà ïðîãðàììà äåéñòâóåò, íî âû äîëæíû òî÷íî èñïîëíÿòü èíñòðóêöèè! ÃËÀÂÍÎÅ ÍÅ ÏÎÌÅÙÀÉÒÅ ÂÀØÅ ÈÌß ÍÀ ÄÐÓÃÓÞ ÏÎÇÈÖÈÞ, ÝÒÎ ÎÁÎÉÄÅÒÑß ÂÀÌ ÁÎËÜØÎÉ ÏÎÒÅÐÅÉ ÄÅÍÅÃ, ÝÒÎ ÏÐÎÑÒÎ ÍÅ ÄÅÉÑÒÂÓÅÒ!!!

    ß - ðåàëüíîå äîêàçàòåëüñòâî ðàáîòîñïîñîáíîñòè ýòîãî áèçíåñà. Ýòî äåéñòâèòåëüíî ïðåâîñõîäíàÿ âîçìîæíîñòü, òàê ðåàëüíî è ëåãêî çàðàáîòàòü äåíüãè ñ ìèíèìàëüíûì âêëàäîì. Åñëè ðåøèòåñü ýòî ïîïðîáîâàòü, ïðèäåðæèâàéòåñü èíñòðóêöèé ïðîãðàììû è áóäåòå íà ëó÷øåé äîðîãå ê ôèíàíñîâîé íåçàâèñèìîñòè.

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    Ýòà ïðîãðàììà äåéñòâèòåëüíî äåéñòâóåò. Æèâó íå â Àìåðèêå, à â Åâðîïå è ñíà÷àëà ÿ áîÿëñÿ, íå áûë óâåðåí, äåéñòâèòåëüíî ëè ýòî äåéñòâóåò, à ïîòîìó, íå îòíîñèëñÿ ê ýòîìó ñåðüåçíî. À ïîòîì ñêàçàë ñåáå: "À ïî÷åìó íåò?". Ñîçäàë êîøåëåê, ïîïîëíèë åãî , è ñäåëàë ïåðåâîä, çàêàçàâ ñåáå ÷åòûðå Reporty.  òå÷åíèè 5-è äíåé ïîëó÷èë èõ âñåõ ïî e-mail.

    Äîëüøå âñåãî ïðèøëîñü æäàòü Report #4. Íî ýòî è ïîíÿòíî, âåäü ó ïðîäàâöà ýòîãî, ïîñëåäíåãî óðîâíÿ, òûñÿ÷è çàêàçîâ. Âñå ñäåëàë òî÷íî ïî èíñòðóêöèè (÷òîáû áûòü óâåðåííûì, åñëè ýòî äåëî íå çàðàáîòàåò, òî ýòî íå ïðè÷èíà ìîåé îøèáêè) è æäàë. ß âíèìàòåëüíî ïðî÷èòàë âñå ïîëó÷åííûå ðóêîâîäñòâà, à êîãäà óçíàë, êàê âñå íàäî äåëàòü, íà÷àë ñâîé áèçíåñ. ß èñêàë àäðåñà âåçäå è ñäåëàë ñåáå äëèííûé ñïèñîê (ìíå ýòî áûëî äåéñòâèòåëüíî èíòåðåñíî, ýòî áûëî êàê íîâîå õîááè, è ÿ íå ìîã íè÷åãî ïîòåðÿòü), êàê íåíîðìàëüíûé ÿ íà÷àë ïîñûëàòü e-mail ëþäÿì â öåëîì ñâåòå. Äåëàë ÿ ýòî ïîñòîÿííî, è êàæäûé äåíü êîíòðîëèðîâàë ñâîé ïî÷òîâûé ÿùèê è êîøåëåê. Ïðèìåðíî ÷åðåç äåíü íà÷àëè ïðèõîäèòü çàêàçû. Äî ñèõ ïîð ïîìíþ òîò ìîìåíò, êîãäà îáíàðóæèë ïåðâûé çàêàç. Íåêîòîðîå âðåìÿ ÿ ïðîñòî ñòîÿë è íå ìîã äâèãàòüñÿ: "Ýòî ðàáîòàåò! Ýòà øòóêà çàðàáîòàëà ìàòü åå òàê!". Ïðîøó ïðîùåíèÿ çà âûðàæåíèå, íî ß áûë î÷åíü ñ÷àñòëèâ, è íà÷àë ïîñûëàòü åùå áîëüøå e-mail, ïîÿâèëñÿ ñèëüíåéøèé ñòèìóë ê ðàáîòå. Íà ñëåäóþùèé äåíü - ïóñòîé ÿùèê è ñíîâà ÿ ïîäóìàë, ÷òî ýòî íå áóäåò ðàáîòàòü, íî îêàçàëîñü íàîáîðîò. Íà ñëåäóþùèé äåíü ÿ ïîëó÷èë 3 çàêàçà, â òîò æå ìîìåíò ÿ ïîñëàë ëþäÿì èõ reporty, ÷òîáû ìîãëè òîæå áûñòðî çàðàáîòàòü äåíüãè (äëÿ ñåáÿ è äëÿ ìåíÿ). Çà äâå íåäåëè, êàæäûé äåíü ÿ ñèäåë ïðèìåðíî 30 ìèíóò ó êîìïüþòåðà è ïîñûëàë çàêàçû.  òå÷åíèè äâóõ íåäåëü ÿ ïîëó÷èë 29 çàêàçîâ íà Report #1. Ïîòîì çàêàçû ñòàëè ïðèõîäèòü ÷àùå è áûñòðåå, êàæäóþ íåäåëþ ÿ ïîëó÷àë îêîëî ñòà çàêàçîâ, a äåíüãè âñå ïîñòóïàëè íà ìîé ñ÷åò.  öåëîì ÿ çàðàáîòàë îêîëî 64.000,- USD.  ÝÒÎ ÍÅ ÂÎÇÌÎÆÍÎ ÁÛËÎ ÏÎÂÅÐÈÒÜ! Íà ïðîøëîé íåäåëå ÿ êóïèë ñåáå íîâóþ òà÷êó è ýòî áëàãîäàðÿ ïðîãðàììå. Åñëè è òåïåðü Âû íå çíàåòå, ÷òî äåëàòü, òàê ÿ Âàì ãîâîðþ

    Ï_Î_Ï_Ð_Î_Á_Ó_É_Ò_Å è íå ïîæàëååòå. Ýòî Âàø øàíñ, åñëè åãî óïóñòèòå, òàê áóäåòå æàëåòü îá ýòîì äî êîíöà æèçíè!

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    Yahoo! Mail Personal Address - Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. --0-2086206725-986370454=:7069-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 4 3:14:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-141-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0080437B719; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 03:14:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f349R1u65157; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:27:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:27:00 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Dima Dorfman Cc: doc@freebsd.org, nik@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proper way to make relative links to other docs Message-ID: <20010404102700.A45781@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010404012554.11C423E09@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010404012554.11C423E09@bazooka.unixfreak.org>; from dima@unixfreak.org on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 06:25:53PM -0700 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 06:25:53PM -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote: > What's the proper way to link from one document to another? =20 Very good question. > The FAQ > and Handbook generally refer to each other using "../". This works > both ways, and for all kinds of directory structures/layouts. What's > the correct way to link from, say, the PPP primer to the Handbook, > though? With the "/docs/en/books/whatever" layout, "../" still works; > that layout doesn't seem to be used, though (it's still on > www.freebsd.org, but the current Makefile in www/en doesn't update > it). It doesn't work for the case where the ppp-primer is > tutorials/ppp, though; using "../../" seems evil, since that will > break for just about any other layout. >=20 > Suggestions? This is one reason why I'd like the docs on the web site to install in to a fixed hierarchy. It makes this issue relatively easy to solve for 90% of the cases. The way you're supposed to do it is to use the OLink element (c.f., ULink, and XRef in DocBook). The available documentation on OLink is relatively sparse; http://www.docbook.org/tdg/html/olink.html http://www.nwalsh.com/docbook/dsssl/doc/olinksemantics.html and we haven't done anything with it (I seem to recall that Neil (nbm) looked at this a while ago). N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrK6OMACgkQk6gHZCw343X4dgCcCD24xKnjCGgDcV9mDzuZSbRL FSkAn3y0iMrxhZDlDcGYhfR2JAd59jdo =yCKw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --h31gzZEtNLTqOjlF-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 4 3:15:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-141-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE99637B71E; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 03:15:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f349Wxv65193; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:32:59 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:32:59 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Murray Stokely Cc: Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Indexing the Handbook Message-ID: <20010404103259.C45781@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010223144043.A46865@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uXxzq0nDebZQVNAZ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from murray@osd.bsdi.com on Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:41:26PM -0800 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --uXxzq0nDebZQVNAZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 10:41:26PM -0800, Murray Stokely wrote: > % Do we also run the risk of having lots of different index terms, all > % subtly different? I don't know. >=20 > This is very easy to correct in practice. The HTML index that gets > created is of course in alphabetical order, so very similar index > terms that should probably be compounded are very easy to spot, and in > fact I did this for several terms in my original patch (all relating > to singular vs plural use of a noun). Good point. > % Is this something we could use entities for? > % > % % "stack frame"> > % > % and then write > % > % &index.p.stack_frame; > % > % in the documentation? > % > % As I say, I don't know. >=20 > I'm not sure what the best way is either, but I think this is a very > minor style nit when compared with the complete absence of an index in > our printed documentation. Replcaing the indexterms with entities is > just a matter of search and replace, so we can easily change our minds > later once we've actually got some experience working with an index. Also true. > I would like to commit this patch to the Developers Handbook and > continue adding index terms to that document. If things get ugly then > we can find a better way before touching the FreeBSD Handbook. >=20 > Are there any objections to me proceeding with this? No objection from here. Looking through doc.docbook.mk, I think there's a bug with GEN_INDEX, and the html and html-split formats (I think there's a possibility for it to use the FORMATS=3Dhtml index.sgml when, in fact, FORMATS=3Dhtml-split. I'll try and test that out and fix it if it is a problem. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --uXxzq0nDebZQVNAZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrK6ksACgkQk6gHZCw343UzYgCfYKOgPXJo/jVo8YbpmbdGmb+t MccAn3c2yDE8PzWCVFhpxOtxm/lPj15l =dak3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uXxzq0nDebZQVNAZ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 4 5:18:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from snarf.osdn.com (snarf.osdn.com [209.192.217.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB9D337B71B; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 05:18:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from guinness.osdn.com (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snarf.osdn.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f34CIFt63364; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 08:18:16 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Received: by guinness.osdn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2E74410C; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 08:18:16 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 08:18:15 -0400 From: Jim Mock To: Dima Dorfman Cc: John Baldwin , doc@FreeBSD.org, obrien@FreeBSD.org, nik@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Use tabs in docs? (was: cvs commit: doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/faq book.sgml) Message-ID: <20010404081815.B4673@guinness.osdn.com> Reply-To: jim@FreeBSD.org References: <20010404010653.BD55A3E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i In-Reply-To: <20010404010653.BD55A3E28@bazooka.unixfreak.org>; from dima@unixfreak.org on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 06:06:53PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 03 Apr 2001 at 18:06:53 -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote: > [ Choosing random message to reply to. ] > > So it seems everyone agrees that tabs are the way to go. Below is a > proposed patch to the FDP primer to make this clear once and for all. > > Comments? Looks ok to me. - jim -- - jim mock - O|S|D|N - open source development network - - http://www.freebsdzine.org/ - jim@freebsdzine.org - jim@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 4 6:45:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-141-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F386A37B71A for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 06:45:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f34Dddi26400; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:39:39 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:39:39 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Udo Erdelhoff Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Translators: Need feedback on FAQ reorganization Message-ID: <20010404143938.A6408@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010313124524.B2130@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010313231654.G83336@nathan.ruhr.de> <20010314131233.C6138@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010314210730.J83336@nathan.ruhr.de> <20010315023806.B46684@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010315200337.N83336@nathan.ruhr.de> <20010315210350.A1113@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010316104207.H24155@django.de.uu.net> <20010316190808.A389@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010326054147.D31676@nathan.ruhr.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010326054147.D31676@nathan.ruhr.de>; from ue@nathan.ruhr.de on Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 05:41:47AM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 26, 2001 at 05:41:47AM +0200, Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > > That's certainly one way to do things. Until we get more committers I > > wouldn't be surprised if it was quite an effective way. >=20 > It is effective - and it makes your "good record of getting PRs committed" > criterium absolutely worthless. No it doesn't. Apart from anything else, it demonstrates commitment. > > > right now I'm resting my case on the point that existing code is one = of > > > the better arguments :-> >=20 > > Attached is a diff to freebsd.dsl which rewrites Norm's > > xref-biblioentry function, and a diff to the FAQ to use it. >=20 > I'll take a close look at it (and the html codes it generates) once I've > managed to clean up the collateral damage caused by revision 1.155 of the > FAQ. What collateral damage? It's a 50 line diff, of which only 22 lines are actual changes. Clearly I'm misunderstanding something about the processes you're using if that's causing problems. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrLJBkACgkQk6gHZCw343X+0gCdEFn4lwWegkvwHGbk5tEvA39w CdQAn1Fk2IlVlok0QAa/9s9f0kwaBDdS =+m88 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --sm4nu43k4a2Rpi4c-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 4 6:47:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rapier.smartspace.co.za (rapier.smartspace.co.za [66.8.25.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 94E1B37B725 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 06:47:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nbm@rapier.smartspace.co.za) Received: (qmail 49609 invoked by uid 1001); 4 Apr 2001 13:46:36 -0000 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:46:36 +0200 From: Neil Blakey-Milner To: Nik Clayton Cc: Dima Dorfman , doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Proper way to make relative links to other docs Message-ID: <20010404154636.C42307@rapier.smartspace.co.za> References: <20010404012554.11C423E09@bazooka.unixfreak.org> <20010404102700.A45781@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010404102700.A45781@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 10:27:00AM +0100 Organization: Building Intelligence X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 X-URL: http://rucus.ru.ac.za/~nbm/ Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed 2001-04-04 (10:27), Nik Clayton wrote: > On Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 06:25:53PM -0700, Dima Dorfman wrote: > > What's the proper way to link from one document to another? > > Very good question. > > > The FAQ > > and Handbook generally refer to each other using "../". This works > > both ways, and for all kinds of directory structures/layouts. What's > > the correct way to link from, say, the PPP primer to the Handbook, > > though? With the "/docs/en/books/whatever" layout, "../" still works; > > that layout doesn't seem to be used, though (it's still on > > www.freebsd.org, but the current Makefile in www/en doesn't update > > it). It doesn't work for the case where the ppp-primer is > > tutorials/ppp, though; using "../../" seems evil, since that will > > break for just about any other layout. > > > > Suggestions? > > This is one reason why I'd like the docs on the web site to install in > to a fixed hierarchy. It makes this issue relatively easy to solve for > 90% of the cases. > > The way you're supposed to do it is to use the OLink element (c.f., > ULink, and XRef in DocBook). The available documentation on OLink is > relatively sparse; > > http://www.docbook.org/tdg/html/olink.html > http://www.nwalsh.com/docbook/dsssl/doc/olinksemantics.html > > and we haven't done anything with it (I seem to recall that Neil (nbm) > looked at this a while ago). I did indeed. To properly implement it, we may have to have .olink files in the repo, at least that was my last remembered thoughts on it. It will make splitting the handbook and stuff really easy once it's in, though. I'll see if I still have the patches I sent nik, or I'll work out what I did again sometime. Neil -- Neil Blakey-Milner nbm@mithrandr.moria.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 4 9: 0:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from woodinville.netos.com (woodinville.netos.com [216.251.100.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CDE837B71B for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:00:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from merycris@hotmail.com) Received: from ns.lakeforestparkchurch.org ([216.251.106.241]) by woodinville.netos.com (Post.Office MTA v3.1.2 release (PO205-101c) ID# 0-38159U2500L250S0) with SMTP id AAA152 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 09:00:14 -0700 Received: by ns.lakeforestparkchurch.org with XtraMail-SMTP/POP3-Server (v1.2 18220008767) for at Wed, 4 Apr 2001 07:06:12 +-700 From: To: Cc: Subject: new found! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 07:06:12 +-700 Message-Id: <0104040706123216@ns.lakeforestparkchurch.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org List and Search under http://www.eroos.ru or http://216.218.174.6/pages this program you can download from http://216.218.174.6/download/search_and_send.zip -------------------------------------------------------- Messages end ------------------------------------------------------------------ *******************footer only for user unregisted************************* __________________ Programm - Emailer Free Version _______________________ __________________ Mailsend with http://www.openonline.de _________________ __________________ Mailsend with http://www.stripline.de _________________ ___________________________________________________________________________ *************************************************************************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 4 10:15:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from dfw-smtpout4.email.verio.net (dfw-smtpout4.email.verio.net [129.250.36.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C5CE37B71A for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:15:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bokr@accessone.com) Received: from [129.250.38.62] (helo=dfw-mmp2.email.verio.net) by dfw-smtpout4.email.verio.net with esmtp id 14kqs3-0002wG-00; Wed, 04 Apr 2001 17:15:03 +0000 Received: from [63.183.7.113] (helo=gazelle.accessone.com) by dfw-mmp2.email.verio.net with esmtp id 14kqs2-0007kE-00; Wed, 04 Apr 2001 17:15:03 +0000 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.1.20010404092059.00aeebf0@mail.accessone.com> X-Sender: VN/bokr@mail.accessone.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 10:12:57 -0700 To: Dima Dorfman From: Bengt Richter Subject: Re: docs/26286: format string warnings in man pages. Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200104040120.f341K4R75749@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 18:20 2001-04-03, you wrote: >The following reply was made to PR docs/26286; it has been noted by GNATS. > >From: Dima Dorfman >To: Bengt Richter >Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org >Subject: Re: docs/26286: format string warnings in man pages. >Date: Tue, 03 Apr 2001 18:15:57 -0700 > > Bengt Richter writes: > > (I am implicitly suggesting that security risk documentation > > be accumulated in a single place for reference and browsing. ^^^^^^^^^ > > This would serve several goals at once, not least of which is > > a single instance of explanatory text to update when appropriate. > > We already have this: http://www.FreeBSD.org/security/#spg > Which is good, but to refer to specific paragraphs/concepts via a link from a footnote, #spg would need paragraph numbers or other identifiers. The more #spg grows, the more the need for paragraph/section identifiers for reference. > In a perfect world, most security bugs being found right now wouldn't > exist because all programmers would read that, and all the sites that > page links to, and know that passing the wrong data to the wrong > format specifier is a recipe for [security] disaster; unfortunately, > we don't live in a perfect world. Some programmers don't even bother > reading the man pages to look for security warnings, and many more > didn't read that page. > > The best thing we can do is stick this information in their face. Would you (e.g.) want to put #warning lines in ? Or configure make to call a new tool that scans for risky stuff listed in a .conf file, and issues warnings that you have to know what you're doing to turn off? Or modify etc. with conditionals so you have to define USE_RISKY_PRINTF or USE_RISKY_XXX to use a call to a risky XXX (or else get a warning lecture via #warning lines) ? How in-your-face do you want to get ;-) Hm. Actually, maybe that wouldn't be so bad if you could disable it wholesale with -DNO_USE_RISKY or something. Of course, this wouldn't flag risky stuff you coded yourself. > Sticking outdated, wrong, or incomplete information in their face > doesn't make the problem better, however. That was my original > concern; if the information mentioned in each man page is incomplete Using references to centralized info makes it easier to maintain "complete" info, I would think. Also implies less updates to the referring docs, and little or no consistency/duplications problems between referring docs. > (and the patch submitted was), it may lead some to think that by > reading that they know enough, and not bother to investigate further. Would they bother to click a live hyperlink in an HTML version? > > That said, I'd like to make it clear that I'm not opposed to the patch > in general. I'm just concerned that keeping it up to date will be a > pretty big problem, and thus it may end up doing more harm than good. A reason for a centralized single-instance info representation, which can be referred to instead of sliced and duplicated, IMHO. Regards, Bengt Richter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 4 10:53:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (smtp10.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.200.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF1A737B71E for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 10:53:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from petv@mindspring.com) Received: from [165.247.216.207] (user-2ivfm6f.dialup.mindspring.com [165.247.216.207]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id NAA17128 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 13:53:09 -0400 (EDT) User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.01 (1630) Date: Wed, 04 Apr 2001 10:52:40 -0700 Subject: How to get service for MACs? From: "V.Peters" To: Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How can I get the kind of services you offer for a MAC OS 8.6 or 9 computer? Thanks, VP To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 4 12:15: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from po4.glue.umd.edu (po4.glue.umd.edu [128.8.10.124]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83B0837B72F; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 12:14:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from howardjp@well.com) Received: from y.glue.umd.edu (IDENT:root@y.glue.umd.edu [128.8.10.68]) by po4.glue.umd.edu (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f34JEsw11145; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:14:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from y.glue.umd.edu (IDENT:sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by y.glue.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA13693; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:14:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (howardjp@localhost) by y.glue.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA13689; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:14:53 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: y.glue.umd.edu: howardjp owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 15:14:53 -0400 (EDT) From: James Howard X-Sender: howardjp@y.glue.umd.edu To: "Zachary M. Smith" Cc: doc@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Shell Resources In-Reply-To: <20010402182552.A84132@arbornet.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 2 Apr 2001, Zachary M. Smith wrote: > like to provide support for developers. I'd have to get > approval from the organization that oversees the system > before I committed any resources in their name, but I would > like to help. If this is the wrong place ask, please kindly Zach, I copied this to -hackers (still may not be the right place...). Approval from the organization is merely a formallity and I think would come easily. It would be great to see Arbornet supporting FreeBSD. Jamie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 4 13: 8:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ruhr.de (in-ruhr4.ruhr.de [212.23.134.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6710837B733 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 13:08:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ue@nathan.ruhr.de) Received: (qmail 1023 invoked by uid 10); 4 Apr 2001 20:08:19 -0000 Received: (from ue@localhost) by nathan.ruhr.de (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f34K5dQ61425; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:05:39 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ue) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:05:39 +0200 From: Udo Erdelhoff To: doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Nik Clayton Subject: Re: Translators: Need feedback on FAQ reorganization Message-ID: <20010404220539.H46362@nathan.ruhr.de> Mail-Followup-To: doc@FreeBSD.org, Nik Clayton References: <20010313231654.G83336@nathan.ruhr.de> <20010314131233.C6138@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010314210730.J83336@nathan.ruhr.de> <20010315023806.B46684@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010315200337.N83336@nathan.ruhr.de> <20010315210350.A1113@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010316104207.H24155@django.de.uu.net> <20010316190808.A389@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010326054147.D31676@nathan.ruhr.de> <20010404143938.A6408@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="y0Ed1hDcWxc3B7cn" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010404143938.A6408@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:39:39PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --y0Ed1hDcWxc3B7cn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:39:39PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > What collateral damage? It's a 50 line diff, of which only 22 lines are > actual changes. Clearly I'm misunderstanding something about the > processes you're using if that's causing problems. and all the neccessary changes in the framework introduced in that version. The most visible sign of the collateral was the "Fix build of German FAQ" commit Alex did a few days ago. /s/Udo --=20 Enjoy the beauty and power of root --y0Ed1hDcWxc3B7cn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iQCVAwUBOst+k0Poh1XnT6hxAQH1PwP6Au1pT5t7IRXEt9ypHYLGq/NYT3BrLgsi 9ZYAHDeeE7ALzZ2dzeJGeHwOusrDz2jSIx3j6gjoWV/L+yMdvA8kuiu+eio672+p khP/43jmRTa5IpWu4eFlQQHrFu5+Q15F0aDTbxq9d1gjfR593LMTIjAS8qcqWv5t JgC8zP+ib+M= =cvg6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --y0Ed1hDcWxc3B7cn-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 4 14:54:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-141-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC6C037B727; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 14:54:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f34Lq1T94618; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:52:01 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:52:01 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: doc@FreeBSD.org, Nik Clayton Subject: Re: Translators: Need feedback on FAQ reorganization Message-ID: <20010404225200.A94400@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010314131233.C6138@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010314210730.J83336@nathan.ruhr.de> <20010315023806.B46684@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010315200337.N83336@nathan.ruhr.de> <20010315210350.A1113@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010316104207.H24155@django.de.uu.net> <20010316190808.A389@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010326054147.D31676@nathan.ruhr.de> <20010404143938.A6408@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010404220539.H46362@nathan.ruhr.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010404220539.H46362@nathan.ruhr.de>; from ue@nathan.ruhr.de on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 10:05:39PM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 10:05:39PM +0200, Udo Erdelhoff wrote: > On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 02:39:39PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > > What collateral damage? It's a 50 line diff, of which only 22 lines are > > actual changes. Clearly I'm misunderstanding something about the > > processes you're using if that's causing problems. >=20 > and all the neccessary changes in the framework introduced in that versio= n. > The most visible sign of the collateral was the "Fix build of German FAQ" > commit Alex did a few days ago. Are we talking about the same file? From what I can see, the German FAQ hasn't synced up with 1.555 of the English FAQ yet. As to the changes,=20 the only stuff out of the ordinary that I added was the bookinfo entity=20 reference, and the bookinfo.legalnotice; usage. But those have have been= =20 in the German CVS tree since the 9th June last year. Can you explain in more detail what the problem is, and what you had to do to work around it? N PS: On the offchance that you're talking about the citerefentry stuff,=20 (which wasn't in 1.555 of the FAQ) I was under the impression that=20 that generated a diagnostic message only, and didn't otherwise impact the output. Was that wrong? --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrLl4AACgkQk6gHZCw343Xm/wCeIDbR+Bzmc3vkLuaFZLkIZTzX ndIAn0tstvsqkf58cB00LTtgWQoRv540 =Fj1A -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wRRV7LY7NUeQGEoC-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 4 18:45:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 554BB37B446; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:45:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from dd@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f351jMG98765; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:45:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dd) Date: Wed, 4 Apr 2001 18:45:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200104050145.f351jMG98765@freefall.freebsd.org> To: jrcharron@gen-int.com, dd@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org, dd@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: docs/26293: Just add detail on the tutorial Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Just add detail on the tutorial State-Changed-From-To: open->suspended State-Changed-By: dd State-Changed-When: Wed Apr 4 18:44:37 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Note added to PPP primer and share/examples/ppp/ppp.conf.sample; the latter will be MFC'd after the code freeze. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-doc->dd Responsible-Changed-By: dd Responsible-Changed-When: Wed Apr 4 18:44:37 PDT 2001 Responsible-Changed-Why: My MFC reminder for ppp.conf.sample http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=26293 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Wed Apr 4 22: 8:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ruhr.de (in-ruhr4.ruhr.de [212.23.134.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D6B5537B449 for ; Wed, 4 Apr 2001 22:08:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ue@nathan.ruhr.de) Received: (qmail 10495 invoked by uid 10); 5 Apr 2001 05:08:19 -0000 Received: (from ue@localhost) by nathan.ruhr.de (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3557ep63631; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:07:40 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ue) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:07:40 +0200 From: Udo Erdelhoff To: Nik Clayton Cc: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/de_DE.ISO_8859-1/share/sgml freebsd.dsl Message-ID: <20010405070739.I46362@nathan.ruhr.de> Mail-Followup-To: Nik Clayton , freebsd-doc@freebsd.org References: <200104011359.f31Dx9p71088@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010402091523.A2771@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010402203854.A46362@nathan.ruhr.de> <20010402230652.B17348@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="dMdWWqg3F2Dv/qfw" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010402230652.B17348@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 11:06:52PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --dMdWWqg3F2Dv/qfw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 11:06:52PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > Ah, OK. How about the attached, which should quiet things in one fell > swoop? Yes, that saves me from using local .dsl files in all non-F(G)DP modules. /s/Udo --=20 After the night I've had, on top of the year that I've had, what I really want is a nice vile kill. But since that's currently off the menu, I'll have to settle for a few stiff drinks. --dMdWWqg3F2Dv/qfw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iQCVAwUBOsv9m0Poh1XnT6hxAQFVaAP7BmkQgW+BRWqbjEeto5WTimX5q72yY3iU M0w/8Hb6w4ISds9Sd+aNWVoXNJxE3pLLDQA/2hz8fQbC7VQlkPnxJbbE2wYlfe1R JGnJz0dQYJaHRRD9glknWSpCPM03ucUiMyekoPi9nXSi4OP3CJvtEyYTf9rcpmk9 ZqfD/qopBLw= =N+Ha -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --dMdWWqg3F2Dv/qfw-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 5 7:13:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D257937B42C; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:13:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f35EDVj32367; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:13:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:13:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200104051413.f35EDVj32367@freefall.freebsd.org> To: dan@langille.org, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/25790: Re: doc/25783 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Re: doc/25783 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Thu Apr 5 07:13:03 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Changes committed. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25790 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 5 7:13:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C0837B422; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:13:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nik@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f35EDvE32556; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:13:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 07:13:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200104051413.f35EDvE32556@freefall.freebsd.org> To: trevor@jpj.net, nik@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/25789: Re: doc/25783 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Synopsis: Re: doc/25783 State-Changed-From-To: open->closed State-Changed-By: nik State-Changed-When: Thu Apr 5 07:13:39 PDT 2001 State-Changed-Why: Changes committed. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25789 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 5 10: 8:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailout05.sul.t-online.com (mailout05.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0808937B446 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:08:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@cichlids.cichlids.com) Received: from fwd02.aul.t-online.de by mailout05.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14lDFP-0004FU-00; Thu, 05 Apr 2001 19:08:39 +0200 Received: from neutron.cichlids.com (520050424122-0001@[217.1.52.54]) by fmrl02.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14lDFG-0vjAZsC; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:08:30 +0200 Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 505A0AB44 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:08:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cichlids.cichlids.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1DE4114BC2; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:08:38 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 19:08:38 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: doc@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: doc/de_DE.ISO_8859-1/share/sgml freebsd.dsl Message-ID: <20010405190838.D2930@cichlids.cichlids.com> References: <200104011359.f31Dx9p71088@freefall.freebsd.org> <20010402091523.A2771@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010402091523.A2771@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Mon, Apr 02, 2001 at 09:15:23AM +0100 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. X-Sender: 520050424122-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake Nik Clayton (nik@freebsd.org): > > Modified files: > > de_DE.ISO_8859-1/share/sgml freebsd.dsl=20 > > Log: > > Fix build of German FAQ after the latest stylesheet changes: > How did the stylesheet changes break the build? I thought everything > had tested out OK? The variable was unknown and an error message occured (though the build didn't stop). Hence, the output was not 100% correct. However, the change just did what you suggested in the commitlog to en_.../share/sgml/freebsd.dsl for non-English languages and defined the missing variable. Alex --=20 cat: /home/alex/.sig: No such file or directory To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 5 10:10:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 340D437B42C for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:10:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f35HA9C65049; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:10:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E360437B506 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:02:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f35H2ve61899; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:02:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nobody) Message-Id: <200104051702.f35H2ve61899@freefall.freebsd.org> Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 10:02:57 -0700 (PDT) From: anarcat@tao.ca To: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: www-1.0 Subject: docs/26366: ipfw(8) doesn't document which sysctl control dynamic rules Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 26366 >Category: docs >Synopsis: ipfw(8) doesn't document which sysctl control dynamic rules >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-doc >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: doc-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Thu Apr 05 10:10:01 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: The Anarcat >Release: FreeBSD-4.2-STABLE >Organization: Nada, Inc. >Environment: man page cgi interface on www.freebsd.org. :) >Description: ipfw(8) says: keep-state [method] Upon a match, the firewall will create a dynamic rule, whose default behaviour is to matching bidirectional traffic between source and destination IP/port using the same protocol. The rule has a limited lifetime (con­ trolled by a set of sysctl(8) variables), and the life­ time is refreshed every time a matching packet is found. Note that it mentions sysctl(8) variables, but does not specify which. I have not been able to find the specification anywhere. In sysctl(8) or anywhere else... >How-To-Repeat: man ipfw >Fix: Ahem... It would be something more like a workaround, since I think that all sysctl should be systematically documented in sysctl(8) or something like that. Anyhow, here are the sysctls. I don'T know where to put them, I just put the raw info here. It also seems that sysctl(8) does not feature descriptions of the sysctl, but I'll put it down here anyways. So the format is: variable, flag, description, default value. All fields are uint32_t. dyn_buckets, "Number of dyn. buckets", 256, must be power of 2 dyn_max, "Max number of dyn. rules", 1000 dyn_ack_lifetime, "Lifetime of dyn. rules for acks", 300 dyn_syn_lifetime, "Lifetime of dyn. rules for syn", 20 dyn_fin_lifetime, "Lifetime of dyn. rules for fin", 20 dyn_rst_lifetime, "Lifetime of dyn. rules for rst", 5 dyn_short_lifetime, "Lifetime of dyn. rules for other situations", 30 I find sad that the sysctl variables are not better documented, or am I misinformed? >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 5 12:11:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (baerenklau.de.freebsd.org [195.185.195.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACE6B37B505; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 12:11:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by baerenklau.de.freebsd.org (8.8.8/8.8.8) with UUCP id VAA25924; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:11:26 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org) Received: (from wosch@localhost) by paula.panke.de.freebsd.org (8.9.3/8.8.8) id VAA01490; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:08:29 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wosch) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:08:29 +0200 From: Wolfram Schneider To: Rich Morin Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG, www@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: web site navigation issues Message-ID: <20010405210829.F1046@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> References: <20010325214843.A1290@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <20010325214843.A1290@paula.panke.de.freebsd.org>; from wosch@panke.de.freebsd.org on Sun, Mar 25, 2001 at 09:48:43PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001-03-25 21:48:43 +0200, Wolfram Schneider wrote: > On 2001-03-24 20:43:17 -0800, Rich Morin wrote: > > While I'm on the subject, I'd like to suggest that the servers be > > set up so that "freebsd.org" can be used as browser shorthand for > > "www.freebsd.org"; currently, this just hangs... > > freebsd.org is a host alias for hub.freebsd.org for a long time. > The web server on hub should redirect any request from > external users to www.freebsd.org > > I don't know why it just hangs, I will check it. > Thanks for the hint, It is now fixed. http://freebsd.org works again. -Wolfram -- Wolfram Schneider http://wolfram.schneider.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 5 14:51:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (oe34.law12.hotmail.com [64.4.18.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F150337B43F for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:51:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jonathanbyron@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 14:51:46 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [194.117.133.22] From: "Jonathan" To: Subject: Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 22:52:47 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0BE23.227CF040" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Apr 2001 21:51:46.0118 (UTC) FILETIME=[9BF2C660:01C0BE1A] Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0BE23.227CF040 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Have you got a download site for me to get BSD from? 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    ------=_NextPart_000_0007_01C0BE23.227CF040-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 5 15:50: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B5337B505 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:50:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f35Mo3818468; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:50:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 15:50:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104052250.f35Mo3818468@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: Dima Dorfman Subject: Re: docs/26366: ipfw(8) doesn't document which sysctl control dynamic rules Reply-To: Dima Dorfman Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/26366; it has been noted by GNATS. From: Dima Dorfman To: anarcat@tao.ca Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26366: ipfw(8) doesn't document which sysctl control dynamic rules Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2001 15:47:19 -0700 anarcat@tao.ca writes: > > >Number: 26366 > >Category: docs > >Synopsis: ipfw(8) doesn't document which sysctl control dynamic rules > > Note that it mentions sysctl(8) variables, but does not specify > which. I have not been able to find the specification anywhere. In > sysctl(8) or anywhere else.. No offense, but you can't have looked too hard. There's a section in ipfw(8) titled ``SYSCTL VARIABLES'' which documents all the sysctls in the net.inet.ip.fw tree. Here's an excerpt: SYSCTL VARIABLES A set of sysctl(8) variables controls the behaviour of the firewall. These are shown below together with their default value and meaning: net.inet.ip.fw.debug: 1 Controls debugging messages produced by ipfw. net.inet.ip.fw.one_pass: 1 [...] net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_buckets: 256 net.inet.ip.fw.curr_dyn_buckets: 256 The configured and current size of the hash table used to hold dynamic rules. This must be a power of 2. The table can only be resized when empty, so in order to resize it on the fly you will probably have to flush and reload the ruleset. [...] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 5 16:40: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 009A037B423 for ; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:40:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f35Ne3j25767; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:40:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 16:40:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200104052340.f35Ne3j25767@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: From: anarcat Subject: Re: docs/26366: ipfw(8) doesn't document which sysctl control dynamic rules Reply-To: anarcat Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The following reply was made to PR docs/26366; it has been noted by GNATS. From: anarcat To: Dima Dorfman Cc: freebsd-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: docs/26366: ipfw(8) doesn't document which sysctl control dynamic rules Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 18:39:17 -0500 --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Er. I'm sorry. :) Apart from that...=20 Shouldn't sysctl(8) document all sysctl? :) Anyways, sorry again for the noise.. Thank you for your politeness. :) A. On Thu, 05 Apr 2001, Dima Dorfman wrote: > anarcat@tao.ca writes: > >=20 > > >Number: 26366 > > >Category: docs > > >Synopsis: ipfw(8) doesn't document which sysctl control dynamic = rules > > > > Note that it mentions sysctl(8) variables, but does not specify > > which. I have not been able to find the specification anywhere. In > > sysctl(8) or anywhere else.. >=20 > No offense, but you can't have looked too hard. There's a section in > ipfw(8) titled ``SYSCTL VARIABLES'' which documents all the sysctls in > the net.inet.ip.fw tree. Here's an excerpt: >=20 > SYSCTL VARIABLES > A set of sysctl(8) variables controls the behaviour of the firewall. > These are shown below together with their default value and meaning: >=20 > net.inet.ip.fw.debug: 1 > Controls debugging messages produced by ipfw. >=20 > net.inet.ip.fw.one_pass: 1 > [...] > net.inet.ip.fw.dyn_buckets: 256 >=20 > net.inet.ip.fw.curr_dyn_buckets: 256 > The configured and current size of the hash table used to ho= ld > dynamic rules. This must be a power of 2. The table can on= ly be > resized when empty, so in order to resize it on the fly you = will > probably have to flush and reload the ruleset. > [...] --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrNAiMACgkQ7uV99pHLOSLCkwCeO6MjWDlmV6IXFZFWE04JpVFT bq4AoL9txeFFmbX2YnbfL4b/3rCx/qMj =+ZRH -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Nq2Wo0NMKNjxTN9z-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Thu Apr 5 17: 5:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from lila.inti.gov.ar (lila.inti.gov.ar [200.10.161.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BB0137B43E; Thu, 5 Apr 2001 17:05:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from fernan@iib.unsam.edu.ar) Received: from iib005.iib.unsam.edu.ar ([200.3.113.15] helo=mail.inti.gov.ar ident=fernan) by lila.inti.gov.ar with smtp (Exim 3.02 #1) id 14lJb2-00027u-00; Thu, 05 Apr 2001 20:55:24 -0300 Date: Thu, 5 Apr 2001 21:03:47 -0400 From: Fernan Aguero To: jim@freebsd.org Cc: rpratt@ezwv.com, freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Subject: Update install documentation? Message-ID: <20010405210347.G4066@iib005.inti.gov.ar> Reply-To: fernan@iib.unsam.edu.ar Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.2 Lines: 53 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I recently installed FreeBSD for the first time, being a Linux user for the past two years. My first attempt crashed with a hardware conflict that I could not solve (see my posts on freebsd-questions, 05-Apr-2001). As suggested by Randy Pratt (rpratt@ezwv.com) in his "Install Preview for FreeBSD 4.2" (http://people.FreeBSD.org/~rpratt/42/index.html) I got into the visual configuration editor (kernel devices) and resolved all conflicts. Then procceeded to the device probing, several times, to find that no matter what I changed, my NIC will not be configured correctly. After this I decided that, given the lack of suggestions on the mailing list I would try to remove the card and insert it into another slot. But before doing that I tried to change a BIOS option. In my BIOS, there is an option to tell the BIOS that you are using a Plug and Play OS (PnP). It was configured as YES. The BIOS on screen help said that the other option (NO) would make the BIOS itself to set the configuration options for the hardware. I had always thought (after reading the Handbook, section 10.2 on disks) that FreeBSD does not use the BIOS, and so it would make no sense to change anything in it ... FreeBSD would not care. It seems that this is not the case (perhaps my fault to have understood that in the beginning...). After changing that option the installation worked OK (as expected). Now, I think that the documentation would benefit from an update. Perhaps mentioning how to handle BIOS options or some recomendations about it would benefit newbie users. Also, I think that the step by step guide written by Randy should be mentioned in the book (I saw it in the FreeBSD web site but is not in my handbook). Particularly the suggestion to try the configuration and probing several times (without actually installing anything) was very helpful to me. I would not have thought I could have done it that way ... after all I am a newbie! I hope the suggestion will make for a better install guide. Keep up the good work! Documentation is some of the areas in which FreeBSD excels. I am really impressed. I hope that a suggestion like the one I made does not make you think otherwise. Fernan PS: please feel free to correct me if some or all of what I said was plain wrong. It could well be that I just fixed my problem without knowing what I was doing. -- Fernan Aguero Bioinformatics IIB-UNSAM fernan@iib.unsam.edu.ar ICQ 100325972 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 6 2:35:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sonne.cs.fh-nuernberg.de (sonne.cs.fh-nuernberg.de [141.75.8.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D109C37B440 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 02:35:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Andreas.Polland1@student.fh-nuernberg.de) Received: from stud-iss2.cs.fh-nuernberg.de by sonne.cs.fh-nuernberg.de with ESMTP for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:34:02 +0200 Received: from [141.75.149.231] by stud-iss2.cs.fh-nuernberg.de for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:40:04 +0200 Message-Id: <000901c0be7d$12b97f70$e7954b8d@informatik.fhnuernberg.de> From: "Andi Polland" To: Subject: Features - Index Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 11:36:30 +0200 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello FreeBSD-TEam, congratulations to your great piece of software! The only thing I miss on your www-Server is an index of which features are or will be included in which release. Is XFree86 4.x beeing included in 4.3? Or in 5.0? What are the main new Versions / Featured Programms in the current release? ... A big "Thank you for FreeBSD" from Germany, Andi Polland To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 6 3:25:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailout04.sul.t-online.com (mailout04.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E773837B446; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 03:25:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alex@cichlids.cichlids.com) Received: from fwd04.aul.t-online.de by mailout04.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 14lTQo-0006Ek-07; Fri, 06 Apr 2001 12:25:30 +0200 Received: from neutron.cichlids.com (520050424122-0001@[217.1.53.94]) by fmrl04.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 14lTQh-1NGoICC; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 12:25:23 +0200 Received: from cichlids.cichlids.com (cichlids.cichlids.com [192.168.0.10]) by neutron.cichlids.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4B57AB44; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 12:25:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: by cichlids.cichlids.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 2D74C14AF8; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 12:25:33 +0200 (CEST) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 12:25:33 +0200 From: Alexander Langer To: Nik Clayton Cc: Chris Costello , doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FAQ reorganization Message-ID: <20010406122533.C797@cichlids.cichlids.com> References: <20010325143457.B80466@holly.calldei.com> <20010403153326.A7695@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010403153326.A7695@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Tue, Apr 03, 2001 at 03:33:26PM +0100 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 28 CA 4C 46 5B D3 A8 A8 E3 BA F3 4E 60 7D 7F X-PGP-at: finger alex@big.endian.de X-Verwirrung: Dieser Header dient der allgemeinen Verwirrung. X-Sender: 520050424122-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thus spake Nik Clayton (nik@freebsd.org): > I've missed something, I think. I thought one of the things this was > going to do was restructure the content of the FAQ to be useful? Shouldn't this be part of a second attempt/stage ? Alex --=20 cat: /home/alex/.sig: No such file or directory To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 6 5:52:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com [171.69.43.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57F737B423 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 05:52:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@cisco.com) Received: from bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com [171.70.84.42]) by sj-msg-core-2.cisco.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id FAA03629; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 05:52:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f36CqMI36435; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 05:52:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah) Message-Id: <200104061252.f36CqMI36435@bmah-freebsd-0.cisco.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/19/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Andi Polland" Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Features - Index In-Reply-To: <000901c0be7d$12b97f70$e7954b8d@informatik.fhnuernberg.de> References: <000901c0be7d$12b97f70$e7954b8d@informatik.fhnuernberg.de> Comments: In-reply-to "Andi Polland" message dated "Fri, 06 Apr 2001 11:36:30 +0200." From: "Bruce A. Mah" Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-560066320P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Fri, 06 Apr 2001 05:52:22 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_-560066320P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, "Andi Polland" wrote: > congratulations to your great piece of software! The only thing I miss on > your www-Server is an index of which features are or will be included in > which release. Is XFree86 4.x beeing included in 4.3? Or in 5.0? What are > the main new Versions / Featured Programms in the current release? ... Andi-- Each version of FreeBSD comes with set of release notes that highlights the most visible or significant changes from the previous release. In the binary install distributions, you can find it in the top-level directory of the CD-ROM, install floppy, or whatever, as RELNOTES.TXT. Source distributions of FreeBSD (for example, retrieved by CVS) have this file as /usr/src/release/ texts/{i386,alpha}/RELNOTES.TXT. There is a link to the release notes on the "Release Information" page on the Web site as well. 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Best regards, European Internet Network http://www.europeaninternet.com To be removed please reply to: remove@europeaninternet.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 6 9:36:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pop162-leg.mail.com (pop162-leg.mail.com [165.251.32.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E82B037B422 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:36:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from megasitez@Iname.com) Received: from Iname.com (pD950C5AE.dip.t-dialin.net [217.80.197.174]) by pop162-leg.mail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 39DE31C81A for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 12:36:02 -0400 (EDT) From: To: Subject: brandnew MEGA-SITEZ Toplist - Warez, Free-XXX, Drugs Message-Id: <20010406163602.39DE31C81A@pop162-leg.mail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 12:36:02 -0400 (EDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi Warezfreak, ENJOY a brandnew german MEGASITEZ Toplist with Warez,Free XXX, Drugs and many more ... http://www.hf2001.de/topsites/topsites.html the Mega-Sitez Team Team To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 6 9:38: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from pop162-leg.mail.com (pop162-leg.mail.com [165.251.32.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D383437B43E for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 09:38:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from megasitez@Iname.com) Received: from Iname.com (pD950C5AE.dip.t-dialin.net [217.80.197.174]) by pop162-leg.mail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 67B5A1C825 for ; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 12:38:05 -0400 (EDT) From: To: Subject: brandnew MEGA-SITEZ Toplist - Warez, Free-XXX, Drugs Message-Id: <20010406163805.67B5A1C825@pop162-leg.mail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 12:38:05 -0400 (EDT) Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi Warezfreak, ENJOY a brandnew MEGASITEZ Toplist with Warez,Free XXX, Drugs and many more ... http://www.hf2001.de/topsites/topsites.html the Mega-Sitez Team Team To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Fri Apr 6 10:15:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (pc-62-31-42-141-hy.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.42.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B4D037B424; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:15:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f36HDYC01835; Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:13:34 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nik) Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2001 18:13:33 +0100 From: Nik Clayton To: Alexander Langer Cc: Nik Clayton , Chris Costello , doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: FAQ reorganization Message-ID: <20010406181333.A1773@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010325143457.B80466@holly.calldei.com> <20010403153326.A7695@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010406122533.C797@cichlids.cichlids.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010406122533.C797@cichlids.cichlids.com>; from alex@big.endian.de on Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 12:25:33PM +0200 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 12:25:33PM +0200, Alexander Langer wrote: > Thus spake Nik Clayton (nik@freebsd.org): >=20 > > I've missed something, I think. I thought one of the things this was > > going to do was restructure the content of the FAQ to be useful? >=20 > Shouldn't this be part of a second attempt/stage ? Could do. But then we're pulling the FAQ out in to named directories and files first, only to then move the content around, quite possibly in to new files and directories. I think we should avoid the bloat if we can. N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjrN+TwACgkQk6gHZCw343WvoQCfVWL69tUJoXxKvwMinxOWnWsw YUYAniIIRRx9pegUA/CrmaInZUyX3h07 =Y4GX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PEIAKu/WMn1b1Hv9-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 7 1:26:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from se77en.com (c511918-b.plano1.tx.home.com [24.19.72.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6664937B422 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 01:26:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@techmercenary.org) Received: from techmercenary.org (c18210-f.bdfrd1.tx.home.com [24.11.187.215]) by se77en.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f378QMk53664 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 03:26:22 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3ACECE47.1B75699B@techmercenary.org> Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 03:22:31 -0500 From: Brian Reply-To: brian@techmercenary.org Organization: http://www.techmercenary.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: SUBSCRIBE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 7 5:34:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 626AF37B424; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 05:34:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f37CYVU65794; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 15:34:31 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 15:34:31 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Bruce Evans , Sheldon Hearn , Mike Pritchard , Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Subject: Please review: latest mdoc(7) fixes from CSRG Message-ID: <20010407153431.A65093@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! I am about to bring in the latest CSRG revisions to -mdoc. The only reason I am asking for a review here is that the .Fn (and friends) macros were modified by CSRG to assert a final semicolon (`;') after a function declaration in the SYNOPSIS section. If you have any ideas of why this should not be imported, let me know now (I know some manpages abuse the .Fn macro for cpp(1) macros declarations, but they basically need this final `;' too). If we agree on this, these changes will go as well into the upcoming -mdocNG release. Thanks, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 7 6: 0:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19B5F37B422; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 06:00:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f37D0ZI67072; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:00:35 +0300 (EEST) (envelope-from ru) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:00:35 +0300 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: doc@FreeBSD.org Cc: Bruce Evans , Sheldon Hearn , Mike Pritchard , Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Subject: Re: Please review: latest mdoc(7) fixes from CSRG Message-ID: <20010407160035.A66999@sunbay.com> References: <20010407153431.A65093@sunbay.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010407153431.A65093@sunbay.com>; from ru@FreeBSD.org on Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 03:34:31PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 03:34:31PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: [...] > If you have any ideas of why this should not be imported, > let me know now (I know some manpages abuse the .Fn macro > for cpp(1) macros declarations, but they basically need > this final `;' too). > I've checked all src/ -mdoc manpages, and only several contrib/bind/doc/man/*.3 manpages assert a final semicolon after the .Fn declaration in the SYNOPSIS, and we don't use these manpages. (Under -mdocNG, this would cause two `;' to be printed.) Also, both NetBSD and OpenBSD based their -mdoc sources on these latest CSRG revisions. Also, here attached is the patch, forgotten in the original message, for those interested. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=p Index: doc-common =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/contrib/groff/tmac/doc-common,v retrieving revision 1.44 diff -u -p -r1.44 doc-common --- doc-common 2001/04/05 07:59:19 1.44 +++ doc-common 2001/04/07 12:14:17 @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ -.\" Copyright (c) 1991 The Regents of the University of California. -.\" All rights reserved. +.\" Copyright (c) 1991, 1993 +.\" The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. .\" .\" Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without .\" modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions @@ -29,7 +29,7 @@ .\" OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF .\" SUCH DAMAGE. .\" -.\" @(#)doc-common 5.7 (Berkeley) 8/5/91 +.\" @(#)doc-common 8.1 (Berkeley) 06/08/93 .\" $FreeBSD: src/contrib/groff/tmac/doc-common,v 1.44 2001/04/05 07:59:19 ru Exp $ .\" .\" %beginstrip% @@ -54,15 +54,12 @@ .nr Bx 12n .nr Cd 12n .nr Cm 10n -.nr Co 15n -.nr Cx 20n .nr Dc 3 .nr Do 10n .nr Dq 12n .nr Ds 6n .nr Dq 12n .nr Dv 12n -.nr tI \n(Dsu .nr Ec 3 .nr El 1 .nr Eo 12n @@ -70,14 +67,12 @@ .nr Em 10n .nr Er 17n .nr Ev 15n -.nr Ex 10n .nr Fa 12n .nr Fx 12n .nr Fl 10n .nr Fc 3 .nr Fo 16n .nr Fn 16n -.nr Hl 1 .nr I1 6n .nr I2 12n .nr I3 18n @@ -104,12 +99,6 @@ .nr Sq 12n .nr Sy 6n .nr Sx 16n -.nr Ra 1 -.nr Rj 1 -.nr Rn 1 -.nr Ro 1 -.nr Rr 1 -.nr Rt 1 .nr Rv 1 .nr Tn 10n .nr Ta 1 @@ -287,7 +276,6 @@ . \} . ev .\} -.\" .tm IN 444 fM .k == \\n(.k and nl == \\n(nl .. .de lM .\" We may still have a partial line in the enviroment. If this is the case, Index: doc-ditroff =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/contrib/groff/tmac/doc-ditroff,v retrieving revision 1.3 diff -u -p -r1.3 doc-ditroff --- doc-ditroff 2001/02/01 16:17:06 1.3 +++ doc-ditroff 2001/04/07 12:14:17 @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ -.\" Copyright (c) 1991 The Regents of the University of California. -.\" All rights reserved. +.\" Copyright (c) 1991, 1993 +.\" The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. .\" .\" Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without .\" modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions @@ -29,7 +29,7 @@ .\" OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF .\" SUCH DAMAGE. .\" -.\" @(#)doc-ditroff 5.8 (Berkeley) 8/5/91 +.\" @(#)doc-ditroff 8.1 (Berkeley) 06/08/93 .\" $FreeBSD: src/contrib/groff/tmac/doc-ditroff,v 1.3 2001/02/01 16:17:06 ru Exp $ .\" .\" tmac.mdoc-ditroff @@ -203,7 +203,7 @@ . if (\\n(aP>0) \{\ . ds A\\n(aP Li . nr aP \\n(aP -1 -. \} +. \} . if (\\n(aP==0) \{\ . rm C0 C1 C2 C3 C4 C5 C6 C7 C8 C9 . rm S1 S2 S3 S4 S5 S6 S7 S8 S9 Index: doc-nroff =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/contrib/groff/tmac/doc-nroff,v retrieving revision 1.4 diff -u -p -r1.4 doc-nroff --- doc-nroff 2001/02/01 16:17:06 1.4 +++ doc-nroff 2001/04/07 12:14:17 @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ -.\" Copyright (c) 1991 The Regents of the University of California. -.\" All rights reserved. +.\" Copyright (c) 1991, 1993 +.\" The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. .\" .\" Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without .\" modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions @@ -29,7 +29,7 @@ .\" OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF .\" SUCH DAMAGE. .\" -.\" @(#)doc-nroff 5.6 (Berkeley) 8/5/91 +.\" @(#)doc-nroff 8.1 (Berkeley) 06/08/93 .\" $FreeBSD: src/contrib/groff/tmac/doc-nroff,v 1.4 2001/02/01 16:17:06 ru Exp $ .\" .\" tmac.mdoc-nroff Index: doc-syms =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/contrib/groff/tmac/doc-syms,v retrieving revision 1.38 diff -u -p -r1.38 doc-syms --- doc-syms 2001/03/12 17:19:38 1.38 +++ doc-syms 2001/04/07 12:14:17 @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ -.\" Copyright (c) 1991 The Regents of the University of California. -.\" All rights reserved. +.\" Copyright (c) 1991, 1993 +.\" The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. .\" .\" Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without .\" modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions @@ -29,7 +29,7 @@ .\" OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF .\" SUCH DAMAGE. .\" -.\" @(#)doc-syms 5.6 (Berkeley) 8/5/91 +.\" @(#)doc-syms 8.1 (Berkeley) 06/08/93 .\" $FreeBSD: src/contrib/groff/tmac/doc-syms,v 1.38 2001/03/12 17:19:38 ru Exp $ .\" .\" %beginstrip% @@ -52,7 +52,7 @@ .\} .el .aZ .. -.\" NS Bx macro -BSD UNIX (fix smaller nroff version) +.\" NS Bx macro -BSD (fix smaller nroff version) .de Bx .nr cF \\n(.f .nr cZ \\n(.s @@ -120,7 +120,7 @@ .de Ud \¤tly under development. .. -.\" Ns At macro - AT&T UNIX +.\" Ns At macro - AT&T UNIX (this macro does not handle punctuation) .de At .nr cF \\n(.f .nr cZ \\n(.s @@ -152,6 +152,9 @@ . if "\\$1"V.1" \&\\*(tNAT&T\\*(aa System V.1 \\*(tNUNIX\\*(aa . if "\\$1"V.2" \&\\*(tNAT&T\\*(aa System V.2 \\*(tNUNIX\\*(aa . if "\\$1"V.4" \&\\*(tNAT&T\\*(aa System V.4 \\*(tNUNIX\\*(aa +.\} +.if \\n(.$==0 \{\ +\&\\*(tNAT&T UNIX\\*(aa .\} .. .\" NS Fx macro - FreeBSD Index: tmac.doc =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/contrib/groff/tmac/tmac.doc,v retrieving revision 1.21 diff -u -p -r1.21 tmac.doc --- tmac.doc 2001/03/01 12:46:29 1.21 +++ tmac.doc 2001/04/07 12:14:18 @@ -1,5 +1,5 @@ -.\" Copyright (c) 1991 The Regents of the University of California. -.\" All rights reserved. +.\" Copyright (c) 1991, 1993 +.\" The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. .\" .\" Redistribution and use in source and binary forms, with or without .\" modification, are permitted provided that the following conditions @@ -29,7 +29,7 @@ .\" OUT OF THE USE OF THIS SOFTWARE, EVEN IF ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF .\" SUCH DAMAGE. .\" -.\" @(#)doc 5.8 (Berkeley) 8/5/91 +.\" @(#)doc 8.1 (Berkeley) 06/08/93 .\" $FreeBSD: src/contrib/groff/tmac/tmac.doc,v 1.21 2001/03/01 12:46:29 ru Exp $ .\" Modified by jjc@jclark.com as follows: the doc-* files are assumed to be .\" installed as mdoc/doc-* rather than tmac.doc-* (the filename @@ -2287,7 +2287,6 @@ . aV \\$1 \\$2 \\$3 \\$4 \\$5 \\$6 \\$7 \\$8 \\$9 . \} .\} -.\} .if \\n(aC>\\n(aP \{\ . nr aP \\n(aP+1 . as b1 \\*(sX @@ -2600,8 +2599,7 @@ . \} .\" . \} . if \\n(fC>1 \{\ -. as b1 \&\f\\n(cF\s\\n(cZ,\\*(S\\n(aP\\*(fA\\*(A\\n(aP\fP\s0 -.\" . as b1 \&\\,\\*(S\\n(aP\fP\s0\\*(fA\\*(A\\n(aP\fP\s0 +. as b1 \&\f\\n(cF\s\\n(cZ\|,\\*(S\\n(aP\\*(fA\\*(A\\n(aP\fP\s0 . \} . if \\n(fC==1 \{\ . as b1 \&\|\\*(fA\\*(A\\n(aP\fP\s0 @@ -2682,7 +2680,8 @@ . f\\n(C\\n(aP . \} . el \{\ -. as b1 \|\\*(rp +. ie \\n(nS>0 .as b1 \|\\*(rp\fR;\fP +. el .as b1 \|\\*(rp . aZ . \} . if \\n(nS>0 \{\ @@ -2696,7 +2695,8 @@ .\" NS f3 macro - punctuation .\" NS f4 macro - write out function .de f1 -.as b1 \\*(rp\f\\n(cF\s\\n(cZ +.ie \\n(nS>0 .as b1 \\*(rp\fR;\fP\f\\n(cF\s\\n(cZ +.el .as b1 \\*(rp\f\\n(cF\s\\n(cZ .\\*(A\\n(aP .. .de f2 @@ -2720,19 +2720,22 @@ . f\\n(C\\n(aP .\} .el \{\ -. as b1 \\*(rp\f\\n(cF\s\\n(cZ +. ie \\n(nS>0 .as b1 \\*(rp\fR;\fP\f\\n(cF\s\\n(cZ +. el .as b1 \\*(rp\f\\n(cF\s\\n(cZ . aZ .\} .. .de f3 -.as b1 \\*(rp\f\\n(cF\s\\n(cZ\\*(A\\n(aP +.ie \\n(nS>0 .as b1 \\*(rp\f\\n(cF\s\\n(cZ\\*(A\\n(aP +.el .as b1 \\*(rp\f\\n(cF\s\\n(cZ\\*(A\\n(aP .ie \\n(aC>\\n(aP \{\ . No .\} .el .aZ .. .de f4 -.as b1 \\*(rp\f\\n(cF\s\\n(cZ\\*(S\\n(aP\\*(A\\n(aP +.ie \\n(nS>0 .as b1 \\*(rp\fR;\fP\f\\n(cF\s\\n(cZ\\*(S\\n(aP\\*(A\\n(aP +.el .as b1 \\*(rp\f\\n(cF\s\\n(cZ\\*(S\\n(aP\\*(A\\n(aP .ie \\n(aC>\\n(aP \{\ . nr aP \\n(aP+1 . No @@ -2823,7 +2826,8 @@ .\} .nr fC 0 .nr oM \\n(oM-1 -.as b1 \|\\*(rp +.ie \\n(nS>0 .as b1 \|\\*(rp\fR;\fP +.el .as b1 \|\\*(rp .ie \\n(aC>\\n(aP \{\ . nr aP \\n(aP+1 . \\*(A\\n(aP @@ -2884,6 +2888,7 @@ .de rC .nr uK 0 .nr jK 0 +.nr iK 0 .nr nK 0 .nr oK 0 .nr qK 0 @@ -2895,7 +2900,7 @@ .nr bK 0 .ds rS .rm U1 U2 U3 U4 U5 U6 U7 U8 -.rm uK jK nK oK rK qK tK vK dK pK bK +.rm uK jK iK nK oK rK qK tK vK dK pK bK .. .\" NS rZ macro - reference print .de rZ @@ -2924,6 +2929,11 @@ . if \\n(Kl==0 \&\\*(eM\\*(bK\\*(nO. . if \\n(Kl>0 \&\\*(eM\\*(bK\\*(nO, .\} +.if \\n(iK \{\ +. nr Kl \\n(Kl-1 +. if \\n(Kl==0 \&\\*(eM\\*(iK\\*(nO. +. if \\n(Kl>0 \&\\*(eM\\*(iK\\*(nO, +.\} .if \\n(jK \{\ . nr Kl \\n(Kl-1 . if \\n(Kl==0 \&\\*(eM\\*(jK\\*(nO. @@ -3047,6 +3057,37 @@ . nr dK \\n(dK+1 . nr Kl \\n(Kl+1 . ds rS dK +. ds A1 \\$1 +. ds A2 \\$2 +. ds A3 \\$3 +. ds A4 \\$4 +. ds A5 \\$5 +. ds A6 \\$6 +. ds A7 \\$7 +. ds A8 \\$8 +. ds A9 \\$9 +. nr fV \\n(.$ +. fV +. \} +.\} +.if \\n(aC>\\n(aP \{\ +. nr aP \\n(aP+1 +. nr cF \\n(.f +. nr cZ \\n(.s +. rR +.\} +.. +.\" NS %I macro - [reference] Issuer/Publisher Name +.\" NS jK register - [reference] Issuer/Publisher Name flag +.\" NS jK string - [reference] Issuer/Publisher Name +.de %I +.if \\n(aC==0 \{\ +. ie \\n(.$==0 .tm Usage: .%I Issuer/Publisher Name (#\\n(.c) +. el \{\ +. ds mN %I +. nr iK \\n(iK+1 +. ds rS iK +. nr Kl \\n(Kl+1 . ds A1 \\$1 . ds A2 \\$2 . ds A3 \\$3 --WIyZ46R2i8wDzkSu-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 7 8:18:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ruhr.de (in-ruhr4.ruhr.de [212.23.134.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E222637B423 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 08:18:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ue@nathan.ruhr.de) Received: (qmail 15962 invoked by uid 10); 7 Apr 2001 15:18:14 -0000 Received: (from ue@localhost) by nathan.ruhr.de (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f37FF8g75751 for freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 17:15:08 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ue) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 17:15:08 +0200 From: Udo Erdelhoff To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Translators: Need feedback on FAQ reorganization Message-ID: <20010407171508.C65765@nathan.ruhr.de> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org References: <20010314210730.J83336@nathan.ruhr.de> <20010315023806.B46684@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010315200337.N83336@nathan.ruhr.de> <20010315210350.A1113@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010316104207.H24155@django.de.uu.net> <20010316190808.A389@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010326054147.D31676@nathan.ruhr.de> <20010404143938.A6408@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> <20010404220539.H46362@nathan.ruhr.de> <20010404225200.A94400@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3siQDZowHQqNOShm" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010404225200.A94400@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@freebsd.org on Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 10:52:01PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --3siQDZowHQqNOShm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Apr 04, 2001 at 10:52:01PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote: > Are we talking about the same file? From what I can see, the German FAQ > hasn't synced up with 1.555 of the English FAQ yet. The official version and the version in the German repository haven't, the version in my local repository is another matter (I am at 1.164 right now and 1.165 is a no-op for the German FAQ). I hope that I have enough free time this weekend to re-read my translations and to commit the stuff to the German repository for further review. After that, I'll ask Alex to update the version on Freefall. > the only stuff out of the ordinary that I added was the bookinfo entity= =20 > reference, and the bookinfo.legalnotice; usage. But those have have been= =20 > in the German CVS tree since the 9th June last year. The bookinfo entity was one of the problems, another problem was that I had to update my docproj port to catch up with the latest changes. The effects were rather spectacular, though: Type make and get a screenfull of warnings and errors. > Can you explain in more detail what the problem is, and what you had to > do to work around it? Right now, I don't have any real problems. I prefer not to modify /usr/doc if I can help it. One of the consequences is that I have to set LANGCODE to =2E./../home/ue/Sources/de-docproj if I want to use the checked out version= of the German repository. This is somewhat strange and probably not the intended use of LANGCODE but I don't care about that. /s/Udo --=20 I have the heart of an innocent child -- in a small jar on my desk --3siQDZowHQqNOShm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iQCVAwUBOs8u/EPoh1XnT6hxAQFdmwQAoc+94d5TjS/cx6F1bGhepHMN2+R2LEQz sUZsZEohl2wAjHh7JLT9tl4FSCWVOEQsCS3skrDvuINS4CGxLCoGU43FhggSF3hX +W4Qt5wxrKuXwQrBd08mrDFCpplrTjyJAtxnQZjnR7zvz/qsSJgONJ3BdxJ7N0+x JZARF4JiDqw= =jxOV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3siQDZowHQqNOShm-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 7 9:31:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1913237B42C; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 09:31:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA06598; Sun, 8 Apr 2001 02:31:43 +1000 Date: Sun, 8 Apr 2001 02:29:44 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-Sender: bde@besplex.bde.org To: Ruslan Ermilov Cc: doc@FreeBSD.org, Bruce Evans , Sheldon Hearn , Mike Pritchard , Jeroen Ruigrok van der Werven Subject: Re: Please review: latest mdoc(7) fixes from CSRG In-Reply-To: <20010407153431.A65093@sunbay.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 7 Apr 2001, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > I am about to bring in the latest CSRG revisions to -mdoc. > The only reason I am asking for a review here is that the > .Fn (and friends) macros were modified by CSRG to assert a > final semicolon (`;') after a function declaration in the > SYNOPSIS section. Does "assert" mean that they add this semicolon or check for it? From your later mail, I think it means that they add it. > If you have any ideas of why this should not be imported, > let me know now (I know some manpages abuse the .Fn macro > for cpp(1) macros declarations, but they basically need > this final `;' too). I'm not sure about that. The semicolon is a syntax error for a few (broken) declaration-like macros e.g., SYSINIT(). I think the change for actual functions is no worse than (ab)using .Fn for prototypes generally. If we ever have special markup for prototypes, it would be even more correct for it to add the semicolon than for .Fn. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 7 10:32:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from mailb.telia.com (mailb.telia.com [194.22.194.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA9FC37B422 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 10:32:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vlado.damjanovic@telia.com) Received: from d1o906.telia.com (d1o906.telia.com [195.252.36.241]) by mailb.telia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA21713 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 19:32:12 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [213.64.94.164] (h164n3fls20o906.telia.com [213.64.94.164]) by d1o906.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA07179 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 19:32:12 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <200104071732.TAA07179@d1o906.telia.com> X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 4.5 (0410) Date: Sat, 07 Apr 2001 19:34:07 +0200 Subject: From: "vlado damjanovic" To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Mime-version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 7 12:10:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from zipcode.corp.home.net (zipcode.corp.home.net [24.0.26.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C7DA37B43E for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 12:10:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from manek@ecst.csuchico.edu) Received: from rover (vpn-24-16-30-209.corp.home.net [24.16.30.209]) by zipcode.corp.home.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id MAA14620 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 12:10:13 -0700 (PDT) From: "Sameer R. Manek" To: Subject: Faq Addition suggestion Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 12:10:11 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This might be worth while adding to the faq, to append to this section. http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/preface.html#STABLE Sameer -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Ken Bolingbroke Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 10:59 AM To: Steve Tremblett Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Further question Re: cvsupped to RELENG_4 but got 4.3-RC On Thu, 5 Apr 2001, Steve Tremblett wrote: > I was under the impression that 4-STABLE was primarily for bugfixes > applied to the 4.2-RELEASE codebase, and 4-CURRENT is for development > of new features. Given that rationale, 4.3-RC should be a preliminary > merge of CURRENT code into STABLE. The intruduction of (relatively) > unproven code into an established as-stable-as-possible codebase > introduces instability until after it has been tested, therefore just > because 4.3-RC == 4-STABLE, that does not imply that 4.3-RC == stable. No, that's not how it works. It goes like this: 4.0-CURRENT -> 4.0-STABLE -> 4.1-RC -> 4.1-STABLE , etc There is no 4-CURRENT now. -CURRENT is currently 5.0-CURRENT. At some further point in time, 5.0-CURRENT will become 5.0-STABLE. But you'll never have another -CURRENT merged into 4-STABLE. And in the -STABLE branch, whatever the current name, the general idea is to introduce only small changes, bugfixes, security updates, and the like. So if you're following -STABLE at 4.2, you should be thinking of 4.2-STABLE as (4.2-RELEASE + bugfixes). And 4.3-RC would be (4.2-STABLE + more bugfixes). And 4.3-RELEASE will be (4.3-RC + yet more bugfixes). One difference is that commits are locked down in the -RC stage, so there's less change, less chance of things breaking when the branch is in the -RC stage. People tend to think it's a "beta" in the way Microsoft or other vendors might do a beta of their OS, but that's not how it works here. Given this, I feel that -RC is a safer bet than any arbitrary -STABLE, given that -STABLE is constantly changing, with less review than it gets in -RC. Ken To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 7 16:28:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from rimbaud.uol.com.br (rimbaud.uol.com.br [200.231.206.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA9937B424 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:28:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lioux@uol.com.br) Received: from ppp190-bsace7020.telebrasilia.net.br ([200.181.48.190]) by rimbaud.uol.com.br (8.9.1/8.9.1) with ESMTP id UAA25387 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:24:37 -0300 (BRT) Received: (qmail 2357 invoked by uid 1001); 7 Apr 2001 23:28:39 -0000 From: "Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira" Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 20:28:17 -0300 To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Cc: jim@freebsd.org Subject: HandBook PPPoE specific documentation for 3COM Homeconnect Dual Link Message-ID: <20010407202816.A33092@Fedaykin.here> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Hi, I've just written this short guide on how to bypass some of the problems with 3Com Homeconnect Dual Link ADSL Modem. I noticed that many users have problems with this modem. I was one of those. There is a complete lack of documentation on how to get it working and there are no successfull stories on the mailing list archives. :( So ... since it is working for me, I thought I should contribute. I also added a couple and tags. I hope you find this useful. I do apologize for the ugliness of my SGML. It is the first SGML file I've ever written. I am submitting a patch against /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/ppp-and-slip/chapter.sgml It would be wonderful if this made it into FreeBSD-4.3R. Regards, ps: Please CC me in your replies since I am not subscribed to this list. -- Mario S F Ferreira - UnB - Brazil - "I guess this is a signature." lioux at ( freebsd dot org | linf dot unb dot br ) flames to beloved devnull@someotherworldbeloworabove.org --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=patch-pppoe --- /home/lioux/chapter.sgml Sat Apr 7 15:09:11 2001 +++ chapter.sgml Sat Apr 7 20:26:45 2001 @@ -1494,7 +1494,7 @@ server:     -#!/bin/sh +#!/bin/sh ps ax |grep pppd |grep -v grep pid=`ps ax |grep pppd |grep -v grep|awk '{print $1;}'` if [ "X${pid}" != "X" ] ; then @@ -1694,7 +1694,7 @@ - Using PPP over Ethernet (PPPoE) + Using <application>PPP</application> over Ethernet (PPPoE) Contributed by &a.jim; (from node.to) 10 Jan 2000. @@ -1758,7 +1758,7 @@ default: # or name_of_service_provider - set device PPPoE:xl1 # replace xl1 with your ethernet device + set device PPPoE:xl1 # replace xl1 with your ethernet device set mru 1492 set mtu 1492 set authname YOURLOGINNAME @@ -1783,7 +1783,167 @@ - Running <application>PPP</application> + What if I have a <ulink + url="http://www.3com.com/">3Com HomeConnect ADSL Modem Dual Link</ulink>? + Contributed by &a.lioux;, 07 Apr 2001. + + In short, it does not work. Well, it should but it won't. For whatever reason, this modem does not follow L. Mamakos, K. Lidl, J. Evarts, D. Carrel, D. Simone, and R. Wheeler, A Method for transmitting + PPP over Ethernet (PPPoE), RFC 2516. + + Therefore, since it does not follow the PPPoE specification, FreeBSD PPPoE won't talk to it. + Probably, most other Unix(es) won't either. + + Complain to the manufacturer about it if you think it should comply to the + PPPoE specification. + + If you absolutely want to use your ADSL connection with FreeBSD, you can either: + + + You can try replacing this modem with another Brand/Model if your ADSL provider permits. + I don't know which work, &a.questions; is a good place to start (see Mailing Lists + for more information). + + + Or, you can try to get it working. It is not guaranteed, though. Your mileage may vary. + + + + If you absolutely want to try getting it to work. Bear in mind that this is what worked for me but may not work for you. + The usual Disclaimer of .... you are doing it under your own risk.... applies. You should follow these three steps: + + + + First step, you've should have already have a complete ppp.conf file. + Read the complete section on PPPoE before tweaking anything. + + + Second step, this modem does not speak the correct protocol. Since we can't get it to speak properly unless the manufacturer releases + an updated firmware, we will learn how to speak its variant. This information was obtained in a DSLreports forum message. + + It speaks 0x3c12 for DISCOVERY and 0x3c13 for PAYLOAD identifiers. However, it should + use the specification's 0x8863 and 0x8864 respectively. + + + + + + Code + RFC's Code + Dual Link Modem's Code + + + + + PAYLOAD + 0x8863 + 0x3c12 + + + PAYLOAD + 0x8864 + 0x3c13 + + + + + + What you need? You need to re-compile the NETGRAPH_PPPOE code with the modem's codes. + For this, you should have installed the full Kernel source code. + + Find the /usr/src/sys/netgraph/ng_pppoe.h file. Find the line reading + code 0x8863 and replace it with 0x3c12. Do the same with 0x8864, replacing it with 0x3c13. + Be careful when editing this file. + + Here is a diff of how the new file should look like: + + &prompt.user; diff -u /usr/src/sys/netgraph/ng_pppoe.h.orig /usr/src/sys/netgraph/ng_pppoe.h + + + +--- sys/netgraph/ng_pppoe.h.orig Tue Oct 24 16:36:24 2000 ++++ sys/netgraph/ng_pppoe.h Thu Mar 22 18:49:09 2001 +@@ -148,8 +148,8 @@ + #define PTT_SYS_ERR (0x0202) + #define PTT_GEN_ERR (0x0203) + +-#define ETHERTYPE_PPPOE_DISC 0x8863 /* pppoe discovery packets */ +-#define ETHERTYPE_PPPOE_SESS 0x8864 /* pppoe session packets */ ++#define ETHERTYPE_PPPOE_DISC 0x3c12 /* pppoe discovery packets */ ++#define ETHERTYPE_PPPOE_SESS 0x3c13 /* pppoe session packets */ + #else + #define PTT_EOL (0x0000) + #define PTT_SRV_NAME (0x0101) +@@ -162,8 +162,8 @@ + #define PTT_SYS_ERR (0x0202) + #define PTT_GEN_ERR (0x0302) + +-#define ETHERTYPE_PPPOE_DISC 0x6388 /* pppoe discovery packets */ +-#define ETHERTYPE_PPPOE_SESS 0x6488 /* pppoe session packets */ ++#define ETHERTYPE_PPPOE_DISC 0x123c /* pppoe discovery packets */ ++#define ETHERTYPE_PPPOE_SESS 0x133c /* pppoe session packets */ + #endif + + struct pppoe_tag { + + + Then, as root, do the following: + + + &prompt.root; cd /usr/src/sys/modules/netgraph/pppoe + &prompt.root; make clean depend all install + &prompt.root; make clean + + Now, you can speak the modem's variant of the PPPoE protocol specification. + + + Third step, you need to figure out what is the name of the profile your ADSL + Provider recorded in your modem. The information for this step was obtained in the Roaring Penguin PPPoE + program which can be found in the ports collection. + If you don't know, ask your Provider Technical Support. + + If they don't know and you are feeling bold (this may de-program your modem + and place it in a non-working condition, think twice before doing it)... Contact your Provider before + proceeding. + + You could install the program shipped with the modem by your provider. Then, + access the program PPPoE Configuration program, menu System. There, it will be listed the + name of the profile your modem is using. It is usually ISP. + + The profile name will be used in the PPPoE configuration line inside the + /etc/ppp.conf file as the provider parameter. See the manual + page &man.ppp.8;. + + Find the PPPoE line in your ppp.conf + file and use the appropriate profile name. + + + set device PPPoE:xl1:ISP # replace xl1 with your ethernet device and ISP with your modem's profile name + + + + + For additional information not found here, you could try: + + + + Cheaper Broadband with FreeBSD on DSL + by Renauld Waldura + in Daemon News + + + Another PPPoE tutorial by Sympatico Corp + + + + + + Running <application>PPP</application> As root, you can run: @@ -1835,7 +1995,7 @@ Make sure you have the following in your kernel configuration file: - + pseudo-device sl 1 --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-doc Sat Apr 7 16:37:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-doc@freebsd.org Received: from cluck.stealthchickens.org (cluck.stealthchickens.org [209.192.217.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F66637B424 for ; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 16:37:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Received: from guinness.osdn.com (root@cluck.stealthchickens.org [209.192.217.153]) by cluck.stealthchickens.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f37NbmF08274; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 19:37:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim@FreeBSD.org) Received: by guinness.osdn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AE39A106; Sat, 7 Apr 2001 19:37:47 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2001 19:37:47 -0400 From: Jim Mock To: Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira Cc: freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: HandBook PPPoE specific documentation for 3COM Homeconnect Dual Link Message-ID: <20010407193747.A11828@guinness.osdn.com> Reply-To: jim@FreeBSD.org References: <20010407202816.A33092@Fedaykin.here> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.17i In-Reply-To: <20010407202816.A33092@Fedaykin.here>; from lioux@uol.com.br on Sat, Apr 07, 2001 at 08:28:17PM -0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-doc@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 07 Apr 2001 at 20:28:17 -0300, Mario Sergio Fujikawa Ferreira wrote: > Hi, > > I've just written this short guide on how to bypass > some of the problems with 3Com Homeconnect Dual Link ADSL Modem. > I noticed that many users have problems with this modem. > I was one of those. There is a complete lack of documentation > on how to get it working and there are no successfull stories > on the mailing list archives. :( > So ... since it is working for me, I thought I should > contribute. > I also added a couple and tags. > I hope you find this useful. I do apologize for the > ugliness of my SGML. It is the first SGML file I've ever > written. > I am submitting a patch against > /usr/doc/en_US.ISO_8859-1/books/handbook/ppp-and-slip/chapter.sgml > It would be wonderful if this made it into FreeBSD-4.3R. Thanks, I'll go through this later tonight. - jim -- - jim mock - O|S|D|N - open source development network - - http://www.freebsdzine.org/ - jim@freebsdzine.org - jim@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-doc" in the body of the message