From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 0:27:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C9F7D37B401 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 00:27:32 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with UUCP id f0E8RQE12682; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 09:27:26 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.0.14]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.1/8.11.0) with SMTP id f0E8RBi51369; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 09:27:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <004101c07e03$cf5304e0$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Reply-To: "Leif Neland" From: "Leif Neland" To: , "Dirk Meyer" References: Subject: Re: sendmail queue Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 09:27:14 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dirk Meyer" To: Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 6:00 AM Subject: Re: sendmail queue > If you add entry's in "mailertable" you don't need to permit RELAY for them. > Sure? I don't see the relation. Just if I have a special way for reaching foo.dom doesn't mean I'll allow everybody to use me as relay. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 0:36:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D936937B400 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 00:36:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with UUCP id f0E8aJt23979; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 09:36:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.0.14]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.1/8.11.0) with SMTP id f0E8a6i51505; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 09:36:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <004901c07e05$0f9170e0$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Reply-To: "Leif Neland" From: "Leif Neland" To: "Ryan Masse" Cc: References: <3A613A19.3D7A6895@quake.com.au> <002401c07df7$ac1c3de0$0400a8c0@Home> Subject: Re: sendmail queue Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 09:36:10 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan Masse" To: "Kal Torak" Cc: Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 8:00 AM Subject: Re: sendmail queue > > > > This is not needed. sendmail will look at the mx-records, and will > send to > > > > the primary mailserver when it becomes available. > > How will the SMS know what the primary MX record is if this machine is on a > sepereate network? how do i configure this? In the dns for foo.dom $ORIGIN foo.dom MX 10 primary.foo.dom. MX 20 secondary.bar.dom. Does not matter on which network the servers are. > > primary server---> > mail, web, ftp, etc > > secondary--> > only secondary mail server > > how does the secondary mail server 1. know to queue the mail and not send it > to a local inbox 2. know when to send the queued mail to the primary MX 3. > know the primary MX in the first place? > 1: Don't tell the SMS foo.dom is local, i.e. don't put it in Cw 2: It just tries once in a while. Or the PMS could issue an ETRN (Look for etrn.pl, in sendmail/contrib, I think it is) and ask the SMS to start sending to foo.dom. 3: It will just look in the DNS. for the lowest MX working. It won't be sending to itself or any higher numbered MX. > Sorry i'm missing the connection here =\ If you are missing the connection too often, perhaps you need a backup server :-> Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 1: 9:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tigerdyr.lyngbol.dk (tigerdyr.lyngbol.dk [193.162.142.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18B5837B400 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 01:09:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by tigerdyr.lyngbol.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E60139881; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 10:09:39 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 10:09:39 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Michael_Lyngb=F8l?= To: J & C Frazier Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI Message-ID: <20010114100939.A81339@tigerdyr.lyngbol.dk> References: <3A60EE08.3C9CD7AF@csocs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3A60EE08.3C9CD7AF@csocs.com>; from admin@csocs.com on Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 05:08:40PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/i386 4.2-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 05:08:40PM -0700, J & C Frazier wrote: > I recently tried to make some domain modifications with Network > Solutions. > I complete the process successfully and it states it has sent the form > to the > e-mail address I've specified. Unfortunately I don't get the mail. Your're not using ORBS (relays.orbs.org) in your sendmail configuration? I've had the same problem and found out that NSI was listen in ORBS. /Michael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 1:10:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from net2.dinoex.sub.org (net2.dinoex.de [212.184.201.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 252BD37B400 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 01:10:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from gate.dinoex.sub.org (dinoex@localhost) by net2.dinoex.sub.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with BSMTP id f0E9A6f15140 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 10:10:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org) X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <21e7dVj5YQ@dmeyer.dinoex.sub.org> From: dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org (Dirk Meyer) Organization: privat Subject: Re: sendmail queue Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 10:04:23 +0100 X-Mailer: Dinoex 1.77 References: <004101c07e03$cf5304e0$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> X-Gateway: ZCONNECT gate.dinoex.sub.org [UNIX/Connect 0.90] X-Accept-Language: de,en X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 16 EC 0A D3 3A 4F 28 8A 8A 47 93 F1 CF 2F 12 X-Noad: Please don't send me ad's by mail. I'm bored by this type of mail. X-Copyright: (C) Copyright 1999 by Dirk Meyer -- All rights reserved. X-Note: sending SPAM is a violation of both german and US law and will at least trigger a complaint at your provider's postmaster. X-PGP-Key-Avail: mailto:pgp-public-keys@keys.de.pgp.net Subject:GET 0x331CDA5D X-ZC-VIA: 20010114000000W+1@dinoex.sub.org Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Leif Neland wrote:, > > If you add entry's in "mailertable" you don't need to permit RELAY for > Sure? I don't see the relation. Sorry for my fuzzy expression. > Just if I have a special way for reaching foo.dom doesn't mean I'll allow > everybody to use me as relay. right, that was what I did intend to tell. You won't allow your primarys domains to RELAY over the secondary server by default. This is a different configuration. kind regards Dirk - Dirk Meyer, Im Grund 4, 34317 Habichtswald, Germany To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 1:10:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from net2.dinoex.sub.org (net2.dinoex.de [212.184.201.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C631937B401 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 01:10:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from gate.dinoex.sub.org (dinoex@localhost) by net2.dinoex.sub.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with BSMTP id f0E9A7B15194 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 10:10:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org) X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: <21e7dW2RC5@dmeyer.dinoex.sub.org> From: dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org (Dirk Meyer) Organization: privat Subject: Re: sendmail queue Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 10:04:23 +0100 X-Mailer: Dinoex 1.77 References: <3A613A19.3D7A6895@quake.com.au> <002401c07df7$ac1c3de0$0400a8c0@Home> X-Gateway: ZCONNECT gate.dinoex.sub.org [UNIX/Connect 0.90] X-Accept-Language: de,en X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 16 EC 0A D3 3A 4F 28 8A 8A 47 93 F1 CF 2F 12 X-Noad: Please don't send me ad's by mail. I'm bored by this type of mail. X-Copyright: (C) Copyright 1999 by Dirk Meyer -- All rights reserved. X-Note: sending SPAM is a violation of both german and US law and will at least trigger a complaint at your provider's postmaster. X-PGP-Key-Avail: mailto:pgp-public-keys@keys.de.pgp.net Subject:GET 0x331CDA5D X-ZC-VIA: 20010114000000W+1@dinoex.sub.org Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ryan Masse wrote, > How will the SMS know what the primary MX record is if this machine is on a > sepereate network? how do i configure this? > > primary server---> > mail, web, ftp, etc > > secondary--> > only secondary mail server IT must be published in your DNS zone, here an example: www.some-domain.net. IN A 192.168.1.1 ftp.some-domain.net. CNAME www.some-domain.net. mail.some-domain.net. CNAME www.some-domain.net. backup.some-other.net. IN A 192.168.2.1 some-domain.net. IN MX 10 www.some-domain.net. some-domain.net. IN MX 20 backup.some-other.net. The number behind MX is the "Costs", so the lowest available server will win. > how does the secondary mail server 1. know to queue the mail and not send it > to a local inbox 2. know when to send the queued mail to the primary MX 3. > know the primary MX in the first place? --------------------------- 1a) The secondary mailserver needs a configuration line, by default he block relaying for it. But if he find a direction for this mail in his configuration, he will accept mail and handle it. in /etc/mail/mailtertable: (Like Leif suggested): # store only, wait for external REQUEST to deliver some-domain.net. dsmtp:[www.some-domain.net] 2a) In the first case the primary server must connect and issue and "ETRN" command, to tell the secondary to start delivering the mail to him. --------------------------- 1b) in /etc/mail/mailtertable: # for automatic delivery, secondary server will try it each queue run. some-domain.net. smtp:[www.some-domain.net] 2b) Sendmail will try each queue run, (can be 1 to 30 minutes) to deliver Mail. To reduce the times it trys to deliver you can configure it: define(`confMIN_QUEUE_AGE', `30m') in your *.mc files. or in the sendmail.cf file directly: # minimum time in queue before retry O MinQueueAge=30m --------------------------- 3) The secondary servers knows it cause it is written into the mailertable, as the next destination. In this example, "www.some-domain.net". kind regards Dirk - Dirk Meyer, Im Grund 4, 34317 Habichtswald, Germany To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 1:46: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (ftp.golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B182E37B6AD for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 01:45:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AH9370.63.d1acf55c) with ESMTP id zdrsaaaa for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 20:54:15 +1100 Message-ID: <3A61755C.DD1690A4@quake.com.au> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 20:46:04 +1100 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael =?iso-8859-1?Q?Lyngb=F8l?= Cc: J & C Frazier , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI References: <3A60EE08.3C9CD7AF@csocs.com> <20010114100939.A81339@tigerdyr.lyngbol.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Michael Lyngbøl wrote: > > On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 05:08:40PM -0700, J & C Frazier wrote: > > I recently tried to make some domain modifications with Network > > Solutions. > > I complete the process successfully and it states it has sent the form > > to the > > e-mail address I've specified. Unfortunately I don't get the mail. > > Your're not using ORBS (relays.orbs.org) in your sendmail configuration? > > I've had the same problem and found out that NSI was listen in ORBS. > > /Michael Personally I would recommend against orbs, since they are a little too pro-active when it comes to finding relays.. They will black list a server and never send mail to the server informing them of it or anything... Also what orbs consider to be an open relay is not exactly what everyone else thinks one is, I wont go into any more details, but I think RBL is a better service, my personal experience is that orbs ends up blocking more legitimate mail than spam... Just my 2c on orbs :) Kal. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 6:10:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9135B37B400 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 06:10:30 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with UUCP id f0EEAC320780; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 15:10:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.0.14]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.1/8.11.0) with SMTP id f0EE9Yi53088; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 15:09:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <004201c07e33$a3495d60$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Reply-To: "Leif Neland" From: "Leif Neland" To: "Kal Torak" , =?Windows-1252?Q?Michael_Lyngb=F8l?= Cc: "J & C Frazier" , References: <3A60EE08.3C9CD7AF@csocs.com> <20010114100939.A81339@tigerdyr.lyngbol.dk> <3A61755C.DD1690A4@quake.com.au> Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 11:36:58 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0180_01C07E1E.4DC2BAE0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0180_01C07E1E.4DC2BAE0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I don't recommend running dnsbl unattended. I have created this awk-script, which I run every hour. It creates a = webpage which list reason, server, sender and recipient for rejected = messages. BEGIN {OFS=3D"|"}; /check_rcpt/ || /Check_Subject/ { gsub("<","");=20 gsub(">,","");=20 rcpt[$6]=3Dsubstr($8,6);relay[$6]=3Dsubstr($9,7); gsub("/"," "); reas=3D$(NF); # for (m=3D10;m<=3DNF;m++) {if ($(m)~"@") {$(m)=3D"xxx";print = $0,"
"} }; n=3Dindex($0,"... "); reason1=3Dsubstr($0,n+4); match(reason1," [^ ]+@[^ ]+ "); reason[$6]=3Dreason1; if (RSTART) { reason[$6]=3Dsubstr(reason1,1,RSTART) " " = substr(reason1,RSTART+RLENGTH); } if ($0~"check MX") reason[$6]=3D"Kan ikke kontrollere MX for = modtageren"; if ($7~"Subject") reason[$6]=3D"I LOVE YOU"; } $6 in rcpt && $7~"from=3D" { gsub("\+","-");gsub("<",""); gsub(">,",""); fr=3D$7;gsub("@"," @ ",fr); from[$6]=3Dsubstr(fr,6); print reason[$6],relay[$6],from[$6],rcpt[$6]>"/tmp/filter.tmp"} END { system("sort /tmp/filter.tmp|uniq -c >/tmp/filter.tmp2"); FS=3D"|"; OFS=3D""; print "Spamfilter"; print ""; print ""; print "

Breve stoppet i spamfilter
"DAG"

"; print ""; while (getline<"/tmp/filter.tmp2">0) { ant=3Dsubstr($1,1,8);newreason=3Dsubstr($1,9); if (newreason!=3Doldreason) {oldreason=3Dnewreason; p++; print ""; } color=3D(p%2)?"ccaaaa":"aaccaa"; printf "\n",color,ant,= $2,$3,$4} print "
AntalServerAfsenderModtager=
"; if (newreason=3D=3D"blocked.html") {print "Serveren er blokeret af ORBS = fordi den videresender spam"} else {=20 if (newreason=3D=3D"rss") {print "Serveren er blokeret af = mail-abuse.org fordi den videresender spam"} else { if (newreason=3D=3D"rbl") {print "Serveren er blokeret af = mail-abuse.org fordi den SELV sender spam"} else { if (newreason=3D=3D"enduser.htm") {print "En fremmed = modemopkobling må ikke sende post direkte"} else { if (newreason=3D=3D"denied") {print "Relaying denied: Modtager = er ikke kunde her, eller afsender benytter ikke vores modems"} else if (newreason=3D=3D"exist") {print "Domainet findes ikke"} else { if (newreason=3D=3D"resolve") {print "Domainet kan ikke = slås op"} else { print newreason } } } } } } print "
%s%s%s%s
" } Antal Server Afsender Modtager=20 (orbs)Your mailserver is not allowed to send because it is an open = spam-relay:call+45 33119898 ext 2 or see http: www.orbs.org blocked.html = =20 1 hard.yesnet.net.au root @ hard.hornymail.net jvhansen@=20 1 knut.kumoh.ac.kr FreeTV8 @ eagle.aegsp.br desitek@=20 (rss)Your mailserver is not allowed to send to us because it is an = open spam-relay;call+45 33119898 ext 2 or see http: mail-abuse.org rss =20 1 IDENT:root@[200.33.248.34], FreeTV2 @ eagle.aegsp.br autzen@=20 1 IDENT:root@[211.100.6.56], info1 @ networkshosts.com bogus@=20 1 [151.38.23.207], beckyhinds @ ozemail.com.au ingeman@=20 1 [194.72.206.130], menchoal @ ecompare.com funnel@=20 1 [210.121.58.77], 0085T1GyP @ mail.com oestergaard@=20 1 [210.204.190.4], PleasureSex @ dicc.co.kr kemotron@=20 1 [212.43.169.189], investor2210 @ hotmail.com bo-ren@=20 1 ns.tran.co.jp dyzno @ ircnet.ee johnla@=20 1 vistula.wis.pk.edu.pl bm21 @ prodigy.com humle@=20 1 wpgateway.valleyhealth.org healthalert2001 @ yahoo.com ole_chr@ = Relaying denied =20 1 cm-206-128-72-145.coralsprings.ispchannel.com butch1 @ = thedoghousemail.com jez@magic.powernet.co.uk=20 1 rsvp-208-187-113-223.ac07.rcrd.eli.net fruitcake @ = a.mx.innet.be, internet6999@netzero.net=20 Btw. all recievers on this list are expired users. I have put all my expired users as SPAMHATER in access, because I run = avpkeeper, and therfore expired users are not rejected at reception, but after scanning. Then = the sender is often long gone and unreachable. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Kal Torak" To: "Michael Lyngb=F8l" Cc: "J & C Frazier" ; Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 10:46 AM Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > Michael Lyngb=F8l wrote: > >=20 > > On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 05:08:40PM -0700, J & C Frazier wrote: > > > I recently tried to make some domain modifications with Network > > > Solutions. > > > I complete the process successfully and it states it has sent the = form > > > to the > > > e-mail address I've specified. Unfortunately I don't get the = mail. > >=20 > > Your're not using ORBS (relays.orbs.org) in your sendmail = configuration? > >=20 > > I've had the same problem and found out that NSI was listen in ORBS. > >=20 > > /Michael >=20 > Personally I would recommend against orbs, since they are a little too > pro-active when it comes to finding relays.. They will black list a = server > and never send mail to the server informing them of it or anything... As far as I can see, the=FD send to postmaster@listed.dom and = postmaster@server.listed.dom They also list on their page if that message bounced. As RFCsomething requires all domains to have a postmaster, if you don't = you only have yourself to blame. Also, the bounce messages should tell you why you are listed. >=20 > Also what orbs consider to be an open relay is not exactly what = everyone > else thinks one is, I wont go into any more details, but I think RBL = is > a better service, my personal experience is that orbs ends up blocking = more > legitimate mail than spam... >=20 orbs not only lists spam relays, it also lists spam sources. ------=_NextPart_000_0180_01C07E1E.4DC2BAE0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I don't recommend running dnsbl=20 unattended.
I have created this awk-script, which I = run every=20 hour. It creates a webpage which list reason, server, sender and = recipient for=20 rejected messages.
 
BEGIN {OFS=3D"|"};
/check_rcpt/ || /Check_Subject/ {
 =20 gsub("<","");
  gsub(">,","");
 =20 rcpt[$6]=3Dsubstr($8,6);relay[$6]=3Dsubstr($9,7);
  gsub("/"," = ");
 =20 reas=3D$(NF);
#  for (m=3D10;m<=3DNF;m++) {if ($(m)~"@") = {$(m)=3D"xxx";print=20 $0,"<br>"} };
  n=3Dindex($0,"... ");
 =20 reason1=3Dsubstr($0,n+4);
  match(reason1," [^ ]+@[^ ]+ = ");
 =20 reason[$6]=3Dreason1;
  if (RSTART) {
 =20 reason[$6]=3Dsubstr(reason1,1,RSTART) " "=20 substr(reason1,RSTART+RLENGTH);
  }
  if ($0~"check MX") = reason[$6]=3D"Kan ikke kontrollere MX for modtageren";
  if = ($7~"Subject")=20 reason[$6]=3D"I LOVE YOU";
}
$6 in rcpt && $7~"from=3D" = {
 =20 gsub("\+","-");gsub("<",""); gsub(">,","");
  = fr=3D$7;gsub("@"," @=20 ",fr);
from[$6]=3Dsubstr(fr,6);
print=20 reason[$6],relay[$6],from[$6],rcpt[$6]>"/tmp/filter.tmp"}

END=20 {
system("sort /tmp/filter.tmp|uniq -c=20 >/tmp/filter.tmp2");
FS=3D"|";
OFS=3D"";
print=20 "<html><head><title>Spamfilter</title>";
print= =20 "</head>";
print "<body bgcolor=3D\"#ffffcc\">";
print = "<center><h1>Breve stoppet i=20 spamfilter<br>"DAG"</h1></center>";
print = "<table=20 width=3D100%=20 border=3D1><tr><th>Antal</th><th>Server</th= ><th>Afsender</th><th>Modtager</th></tr>= ";
while=20 (getline<"/tmp/filter.tmp2">0)
{=20 ant=3Dsubstr($1,1,8);newreason=3Dsubstr($1,9);
  if = (newreason!=3Doldreason)=20 {oldreason=3Dnewreason;
p++;
print "<tr><th colspan=3D4=20 bgcolor=3D\"#",(p%2)?"ccaaaa":"aaccaa","\">";
if = (newreason=3D=3D"blocked.html")=20 {print "Serveren er blokeret af ORBS fordi den videresender = spam"}
else {=20
  if (newreason=3D=3D"rss") {print "Serveren er blokeret af = mail-abuse.org=20 fordi den videresender spam"}
  else {
    if=20 (newreason=3D=3D"rbl") {print "Serveren er blokeret af mail-abuse.org = fordi den SELV=20 sender spam"}
    else = {
      if=20 (newreason=3D=3D"enduser.htm") {print "En fremmed modemopkobling = m&aring; ikke=20 sende post direkte"}
      else=20 {
        if = (newreason=3D=3D"denied") {print=20 "Relaying denied: Modtager er ikke kunde her, eller afsender benytter = ikke vores=20 modems"}
       =20 else
          if=20 (newreason=3D=3D"exist") {print "Domainet findes=20 ikke"}
          else=20 {
            = if=20 (newreason=3D=3D"resolve") {print "Domainet kan ikke sl&aring;s=20 op"}
           = ; else=20 {
           &n= bsp; =20 print=20 newreason
          =  =20 }
         =20 }
       =20 }
      }
    }
 =20 }
print=20 "</th></tr>";
}

color=3D(p%2)?"ccaaaa":"aaccaa";printf=20 "<tr bgcolor=3D\"#%s\"><td=20 align=3Dright>%s</td><td>%s</td><td>%s</td&= gt;<td>%s</td></tr>\n",color,ant,$2,$3,$4}

print= =20 "</table></body><html>"
}
Antal Server Afsender Modtager
(orbs)Your mailserver is not = allowed to send=20 because it is an open spam-relay:call+45 33119898 ext 2 or see = http:=20 www.orbs.org blocked.html
1 hard.yesnet.net.au root @ hard.hornymail.net jvhansen@
1 knut.kumoh.ac.kr FreeTV8 @ eagle.aegsp.br desitek@
(rss)Your mailserver is not = allowed to send=20 to us because it is an open spam-relay;call+45 33119898 ext 2 or = see http:=20 mail-abuse.org rss
1 IDENT:root@[200.33.248.34], FreeTV2 @ eagle.aegsp.br autzen@
1 IDENT:root@[211.100.6.56], info1 @ networkshosts.com bogus@
1 [151.38.23.207], beckyhinds @ ozemail.com.au ingeman@
1 [194.72.206.130], menchoal @ ecompare.com funnel@
1 [210.121.58.77], 0085T1GyP @ mail.com oestergaard@
1 [210.204.190.4], PleasureSex @ dicc.co.kr kemotron@
1 [212.43.169.189], investor2210 @ hotmail.com bo-ren@
1 ns.tran.co.jp dyzno @ ircnet.ee johnla@
1 vistula.wis.pk.edu.pl bm21 @ prodigy.com humle@
1 wpgateway.valleyhealth.org healthalert2001 @ yahoo.com ole_chr@
Relaying denied
1 cm-206-128-72-145.coralsprings.ispchannel.com butch1 @ thedoghousemail.com jez@magic.powernet.co.uk
1 rsvp-208-187-113-223.ac07.rcrd.eli.net fruitcake @ a.mx.innet.be, internet6999@netzero.net
 
Btw. all recievers on this list are = expired=20 users.
I have put all my expired users as = SPAMHATER in=20 access, because I run avpkeeper, and therfore
expired users are not rejected at = reception, but=20 after scanning. Then the sender is often long gone and = unreachable.
 
----- Original Message ----- =
From: "Kal Torak" <kaltorak@quake.com.au>
To: "Michael Lyngb=F8l" <michael@lyngbol.dk>
Cc: "J & C Frazier" <admin@csocs.com>; = <freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 10:46=20 AM
Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and = NSI

> Michael Lyngb=F8l wrote:
> = >
>=20 > On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 05:08:40PM -0700, J & C Frazier = wrote:
>=20 > > I recently tried to make some domain modifications with=20 Network
> > > Solutions.
> > > I complete the = process=20 successfully and it states it has sent the form
> > > to = the
>=20 > > e-mail address I've specified.  Unfortunately I don't get = the=20 mail.
> >
> > Your're not using ORBS = (relays.orbs.org) in=20 your sendmail configuration?
> >
> > I've had the = same=20 problem and found out that NSI was listen in ORBS.
> >
> = >=20 /Michael
>
> Personally I would recommend against orbs, = since they=20 are a little too
> pro-active when it comes to finding relays.. = They will=20 black list a server
> and never send mail to the server informing = them of=20 it or anything...
 
As far as I can see, the=FD send to postmaster@listed.dom and postmaster@server.listed.dom=
They also list on their page if that = message=20 bounced.
As RFCsomething requires all domains to = have a=20 postmaster, if you don't you only have yourself to blame.
Also, the bounce messages should tell = you why you=20 are listed.
 
 

>
> Also what orbs consider to be an open relay is = not=20 exactly what everyone
> else thinks one is, I wont go into any = more=20 details, but I think RBL is
> a better service, my personal = experience is=20 that orbs ends up blocking more
> legitimate mail than = spam...
>=20
orbs not only lists spam relays, it also lists spam sources.
 
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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 11:49:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bbs.infoweb.com.ng (bbs.infoweb-ng.net [209.198.242.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F04B37B401 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 11:48:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.infoweb.com.ng from bbs (207.114.10.82::mail daemon,SLMail V3.2); Sun, 14 Jan 2001 20:45:35 +0200 From: connice@infoweb.abs.net To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Date: 14 Jan 2001 20:47:10 +0100 Subject: Message-Id: <20010114194857.3F04B37B401@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Sir, Compliments of the new year. We recently obtained a license to provide internet services to the teeming internet population in the southern states of Nigeria (the most populous African nation). 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Thanks and best regards Chizoba Agbasi ACET Technologies Ltd Nigeria To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 12:25:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A98C137B404 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 12:25:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from bonsai.knology.net ([24.214.88.8]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0EKP6o28933 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:25:07 -0600 (CST) Received: (from steve@localhost) by bonsai.knology.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f0EKOfM61543 for isp@freebsd.org; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:24:41 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:24:41 -0600 From: Steve Price To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: relocating primary DNS server Message-ID: <20010114142441.U65118@bonsai.knology.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, Are there any tricks for moving (changing the IP address of) a primary DNS server for a domain? I am helping a friend move his operations from one datacenter to another. I've tried everything I can think except changing the record with Network Solutions. I thought I'd ask the experts on this list if they had any words of wisdom before I went that far. Thanks in advance. -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 12:36:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.csocs.com (shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C6137B401 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 12:36:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from csocs.com (Bdialup74.chyn.uswest.net [209.181.14.233]) by shell.csocs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA06856; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 13:34:07 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from admin@csocs.com) Message-ID: <3A620D0F.118D8C29@csocs.com> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 13:33:19 -0700 From: J & C Frazier Organization: CSOCS Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael =?iso-8859-1?Q?Lyngb=F8l?= Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI References: <3A60EE08.3C9CD7AF@csocs.com> <20010114100939.A81339@tigerdyr.lyngbol.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ORBS shows my server as testing out fine and not relaying. (207.49.21.231 - csocs.com). So I don't think that is the problem. Michael Lyngbøl wrote: > On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 05:08:40PM -0700, J & C Frazier wrote: > > I recently tried to make some domain modifications with Network > > Solutions. > > I complete the process successfully and it states it has sent the form > > to the > > e-mail address I've specified. Unfortunately I don't get the mail. > > Your're not using ORBS (relays.orbs.org) in your sendmail configuration? > > I've had the same problem and found out that NSI was listen in ORBS. > > /Michael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 12:39:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tigerdyr.lyngbol.dk (tigerdyr.lyngbol.dk [193.162.142.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 868BC37B404 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 12:38:58 -0800 (PST) Received: by tigerdyr.lyngbol.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 3909B9881; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 21:38:57 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 21:38:57 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Michael_Lyngb=F8l?= To: J & C Frazier Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI Message-ID: <20010114213857.B631@tigerdyr.lyngbol.dk> References: <3A60EE08.3C9CD7AF@csocs.com> <20010114100939.A81339@tigerdyr.lyngbol.dk> <3A620D0F.118D8C29@csocs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3A620D0F.118D8C29@csocs.com>; from admin@csocs.com on Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 01:33:19PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/i386 4.2-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 01:33:19PM -0700, J & C Frazier wrote: > ORBS shows my server as testing out fine and not relaying. (207.49.21.231 > - csocs.com). So I don't think that is the problem. What I ment was to check your maillog for something like this: Jan 14 21:37:19 tigerdyr postfix/smtpd[907]: reject: RCPT from unknown[202.101.10.9]: 554 Service unavailable; [202.101.10.9] blocked using relays.orbs.org, reason: Open relay - see http://www.orbs.org/verify.php3?address=202.101.10.9; from= to= But if your're not 'subscribing' to ORBS in your end, it shouldn't be a problem. /Michael > > Michael Lyngbøl wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 05:08:40PM -0700, J & C Frazier wrote: > > > I recently tried to make some domain modifications with Network > > > Solutions. > > > I complete the process successfully and it states it has sent the form > > > to the > > > e-mail address I've specified. Unfortunately I don't get the mail. > > > > Your're not using ORBS (relays.orbs.org) in your sendmail configuration? > > > > I've had the same problem and found out that NSI was listen in ORBS. > > > > /Michael > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 12:49: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from puck.firepipe.net (mcut-b-167.resnet.purdue.edu [128.211.209.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D9C837B69B for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 12:48:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by puck.firepipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1A67D19FF; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 15:48:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 15:48:40 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Steve Price Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: relocating primary DNS server Message-ID: <20010114154840.B9969@puck.firepipe.net> Reply-To: Will Andrews Mail-Followup-To: Will Andrews , Steve Price , isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010114142441.U65118@bonsai.knology.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8P1HSweYDcXXzwPJ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010114142441.U65118@bonsai.knology.net>; from sprice@hiwaay.net on Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 02:24:41PM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --8P1HSweYDcXXzwPJ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 02:24:41PM -0600, Steve Price wrote: > Are there any tricks for moving (changing the IP address of) > a primary DNS server for a domain? I am helping a friend move > his operations from one datacenter to another. I've tried > everything I can think except changing the record with Network > Solutions. I thought I'd ask the experts on this list if they > had any words of wisdom before I went that far. >=20 > Thanks in advance. Well Steve, I think you are screwed if your friend's domain is registered with Network Solutions. They are not timely with domain server IP updates in my experience. Last time I tried to do it (admittedly about a year or two ago), it took them three or four weeks to make it effective in their root servers. And in some cases it took six weeks. If possible, your friend could leave a machine on the old datacenter network with the current IP, and have it trust updates from the new DNS server. Then send in an update request to NSI, and pray that they'll change it soon. I really really hate NSI, needless to say. :-) --=20 wca --8P1HSweYDcXXzwPJ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6YhClF47idPgWcsURAvWrAJ4qmd84766+L04Dc6h0dm6oizGtNgCgmAr1 q1x0p25/T76g5E1TKSxPG6s= =0PjV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8P1HSweYDcXXzwPJ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 12:58:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tigerdyr.lyngbol.dk (tigerdyr.lyngbol.dk [193.162.142.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7C3C37B402 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 12:58:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by tigerdyr.lyngbol.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id D862D98B9; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 21:58:32 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 21:58:32 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Michael_Lyngb=F8l?= To: Will Andrews Cc: Steve Price , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: relocating primary DNS server Message-ID: <20010114215832.A1280@tigerdyr.lyngbol.dk> References: <20010114142441.U65118@bonsai.knology.net> <20010114154840.B9969@puck.firepipe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010114154840.B9969@puck.firepipe.net>; from will@physics.purdue.edu on Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 03:48:40PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/i386 4.2-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 03:48:40PM -0500, Will Andrews wrote: > > Are there any tricks for moving (changing the IP address of) > > a primary DNS server for a domain? I am helping a friend move > > his operations from one datacenter to another. I've tried > > everything I can think except changing the record with Network > > Solutions. I thought I'd ask the experts on this list if they > > had any words of wisdom before I went that far. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > Well Steve, > > I think you are screwed if your friend's domain is registered with > Network Solutions. They are not timely with domain server IP updates in > my experience. Last time I tried to do it (admittedly about a year or > two ago), it took them three or four weeks to make it effective in their > root servers. And in some cases it took six weeks. If your registered as eighter Administrative, Billing, or Technical Contact with a valid email address you could use http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/makechanges/ (select 'transfer my Domain Name to another ISO') It works quite nice. > If possible, your friend could leave a machine on the old datacenter > network with the current IP, and have it trust updates from the new DNS > server. Then send in an update request to NSI, and pray that they'll > change it soon. > > I really really hate NSI, needless to say. :-) Well, using the above interface it isn't that hard. /Michael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 13: 5: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from puck.firepipe.net (mcut-b-167.resnet.purdue.edu [128.211.209.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63F1337B6A1 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 13:04:44 -0800 (PST) Received: by puck.firepipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 73D1719FF; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:04:40 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:04:40 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Michael_Lyngb=F8l?= Cc: Will Andrews , Steve Price , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: relocating primary DNS server Message-ID: <20010114160440.F9969@puck.firepipe.net> Reply-To: Will Andrews Mail-Followup-To: Will Andrews , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Michael_Lyngb=F8l?= , Steve Price , isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010114142441.U65118@bonsai.knology.net> <20010114154840.B9969@puck.firepipe.net> <20010114215832.A1280@tigerdyr.lyngbol.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="m972NQjnE83KvVa/" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010114215832.A1280@tigerdyr.lyngbol.dk>; from michael@lyngbol.dk on Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 09:58:32PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --m972NQjnE83KvVa/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 09:58:32PM +0100, Michael Lyngb=F8l wrote: > If your registered as eighter Administrative, Billing, or Technical > Contact with a valid email address you could use > http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/makechanges/ (select 'transfer my > Domain Name to another ISO') That must be new. It wasn't around when I had to deal with them. Even so, I recommend getting a better domain service provider. NSI folks don't seem capable of keeping their stuff straight. --=20 wca --m972NQjnE83KvVa/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6YhRnF47idPgWcsURAq1BAJ43+AaDN3cXVdNHuenmIjxFpg+MHQCfSVuv vdQ8DNecChnrszBviPuimQA= =8neo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --m972NQjnE83KvVa/-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 13: 6:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsd.amplex.net (bsd.amplex.net [209.57.124.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15AEA37B402 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 13:06:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by bsd.amplex.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f0EL6JI01227 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org.AVP; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from web.amplex.net (web.amplex.net [209.57.124.26]) by bsd.amplex.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0EL6Jq01219 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:06:19 -0500 (EST) Received: from marklaptop ([209.57.124.58] unverified) by web.amplex.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.1600); Sun, 14 Jan 2001 15:48:13 -0500 From: "Mark Radabaugh" To: Subject: RE: Problems with sendmail and NSI Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 15:53:09 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3A620D0F.118D8C29@csocs.com> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Jan 2001 20:48:13.0213 (UTC) FILETIME=[4FD1E4D0:01C07E6B] Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You read that backwards.... Is YOUR mailserver checking ORBS to see if the OTHER end is listed in ORBS? Netsol was listed in ORBS for sending spam. Mark Radabaugh VP, Amplex (419)833-3635 mark@amplex.net > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of J & C Frazier > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 3:33 PM > To: Michael Lyngbøl > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > > ORBS shows my server as testing out fine and not relaying. (207.49.21.231 > - csocs.com). So I don't think that is the problem. > > Michael Lyngbøl wrote: > > > On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 05:08:40PM -0700, J & C Frazier wrote: > > > I recently tried to make some domain modifications with Network > > > Solutions. > > > I complete the process successfully and it states it has sent the form > > > to the > > > e-mail address I've specified. Unfortunately I don't get the mail. > > > > Your're not using ORBS (relays.orbs.org) in your sendmail configuration? > > > > I've had the same problem and found out that NSI was listen in ORBS. > > > > /Michael > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 13:14:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.csocs.com (shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A0AF37B6A1 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 13:14:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from csocs.com (Bdialup74.chyn.uswest.net [209.181.14.233]) by shell.csocs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA07014; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:12:12 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from admin@csocs.com) Message-ID: <3A6215FC.81450B90@csocs.com> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:11:24 -0700 From: J & C Frazier Organization: CSOCS Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Michael =?iso-8859-1?Q?Lyngb=F8l?= Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI References: <3A60EE08.3C9CD7AF@csocs.com> <20010114100939.A81339@tigerdyr.lyngbol.dk> <3A620D0F.118D8C29@csocs.com> <20010114213857.B631@tigerdyr.lyngbol.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nope, I'm not subscribing to ORBS, and nothing is showing in the logs at all for NSI, as if the mail was never sent at all. All other mail however hits the server fine and shows in the logs. Michael Lyngbøl wrote: > On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 01:33:19PM -0700, J & C Frazier wrote: > > ORBS shows my server as testing out fine and not relaying. (207.49.21.231 > > - csocs.com). So I don't think that is the problem. > > What I ment was to check your maillog for something like this: > > Jan 14 21:37:19 tigerdyr postfix/smtpd[907]: reject: RCPT from unknown[202.101.10.9]: 554 Service unavailable; [202.101.10.9] blocked using relays.orbs.org, reason: Open relay - see http://www.orbs.org/verify.php3?address=202.101.10.9; from= to= > > But if your're not 'subscribing' to ORBS in your end, it shouldn't be a > problem. > > /Michael > > > > > Michael Lyngbøl wrote: > > > > > On Sat, Jan 13, 2001 at 05:08:40PM -0700, J & C Frazier wrote: > > > > I recently tried to make some domain modifications with Network > > > > Solutions. > > > > I complete the process successfully and it states it has sent the form > > > > to the > > > > e-mail address I've specified. Unfortunately I don't get the mail. > > > > > > Your're not using ORBS (relays.orbs.org) in your sendmail configuration? > > > > > > I've had the same problem and found out that NSI was listen in ORBS. > > > > > > /Michael > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 13:37:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B861B37B698 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 13:37:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from bonsai.knology.net ([24.214.88.8]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0ELbDo19345; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 15:37:13 -0600 (CST) Received: (from steve@localhost) by bonsai.knology.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f0ELb7Z64604; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 15:37:07 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 15:37:07 -0600 From: Steve Price To: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Michael_Lyngb=F8l?= Cc: Will Andrews , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: relocating primary DNS server Message-ID: <20010114153707.V65118@bonsai.knology.net> References: <20010114142441.U65118@bonsai.knology.net> <20010114154840.B9969@puck.firepipe.net> <20010114215832.A1280@tigerdyr.lyngbol.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010114215832.A1280@tigerdyr.lyngbol.dk>; from michael@lyngbol.dk on Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 09:58:32PM +0100 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 09:58:32PM +0100, Michael Lyngbøl wrote: #>> Are there any tricks for moving (changing the IP address of) #>> a primary DNS server for a domain? #> #> I think you are screwed if your friend's domain is registered with #> Network Solutions. They are not timely with domain server IP updates in #> my experience. Last time I tried to do it (admittedly about a year or #> two ago), it took them three or four weeks to make it effective in their #> root servers. And in some cases it took six weeks. # # If your registered as eighter Administrative, Billing, or Technical # Contact with a valid email address you could use # http://www.networksolutions.com/en_US/makechanges/ (select 'transfer my # Domain Name to another ISO') Yes, I'm aware of this interface. I was hoping I could do it without having to use NSI, since the primary nameserver for the domain in question is also the primary for about 600 other domains. I guess the real question is when I do a whois(1) I see the primary and secondary nameserver along with their IP address. If the IP address of one of them changes is this information static (meaning I have to go through all 600+ and change each one) or will NSI and the root servers pickup this information dynamically based on the changes I make? -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 13:38:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C55F437B401 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 13:38:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28890; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:39:32 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:39:31 -0700 (MST) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: Steve Price Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: relocating primary DNS server In-Reply-To: <20010114142441.U65118@bonsai.knology.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Have old and new addresses available (one on the loopback interface with appropriate addresses host-routed to the box, or similar). Submit the change. Either it will go right through and everything will switch over in a day or so, OR, you will be fighting internic for weeks. On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, Steve Price wrote: > Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:24:41 -0600 > From: Steve Price > To: isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: relocating primary DNS server > > Hi all, > > Are there any tricks for moving (changing the IP address of) > a primary DNS server for a domain? I am helping a friend move > his operations from one datacenter to another. I've tried > everything I can think except changing the record with Network > Solutions. I thought I'd ask the experts on this list if they > had any words of wisdom before I went that far. > > Thanks in advance. > > -steve > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 13:41: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5061437B400 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 13:40:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA28918; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:41:49 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:41:48 -0700 (MST) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: Steve Price Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Michael_Lyngb=F8l?= , Will Andrews , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: relocating primary DNS server In-Reply-To: <20010114153707.V65118@bonsai.knology.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, Steve Price wrote: > Yes, I'm aware of this interface. I was hoping I could do it without > having to use NSI, since the primary nameserver for the domain in > question is also the primary for about 600 other domains. I guess the > real question is when I do a whois(1) I see the primary and secondary > nameserver along with their IP address. If the IP address of one of > them changes is this information static (meaning I have to go through > all 600+ and change each one) or will NSI and the root servers pickup > this information dynamically based on the changes I make? There is one authoritative host record. To change the IP address of the server, you need only change it with the registrar it is registered with. - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 14: 2:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68F6C37B400 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:02:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from bonsai.knology.net (user-24-214-88-8.knology.net [24.214.88.8]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0EM2Ao25788; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:02:10 -0600 (CST) Received: (from steve@localhost) by bonsai.knology.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f0EM29i65797; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:02:09 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:02:09 -0600 From: Steve Price To: "Forrest W. Christian" Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Michael_Lyngb=F8l?= , Will Andrews , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: relocating primary DNS server Message-ID: <20010114160209.W65118@bonsai.knology.net> References: <20010114153707.V65118@bonsai.knology.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from forrestc@imach.com on Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 02:41:48PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jan 14, 2001 at 02:41:48PM -0700, Forrest W. Christian wrote: # #> Yes, I'm aware of this interface. I was hoping I could do it without #> having to use NSI, since the primary nameserver for the domain in #> question is also the primary for about 600 other domains. I guess the #> real question is when I do a whois(1) I see the primary and secondary #> nameserver along with their IP address. If the IP address of one of #> them changes is this information static (meaning I have to go through #> all 600+ and change each one) or will NSI and the root servers pickup #> this information dynamically based on the changes I make? # # There is one authoritative host record. To change the IP address of the # server, you need only change it with the registrar it is registered with. Okay just be sure here's what I'm going to do. Let's say the domain is xyz9.org and zone file currently looks like this: $DOMAIN xyz9.org. ... IN NS ns1.xyz9.org. IN NS ns2.xyz9.org. ... ns1 IN A 192.168.12.21 ns2 IN A 192.168.12.22 ns3 IN A 10.0.0.21 Yes I know those are not internet-routable IP addresses. They are just examples. :) I'm going to use the NSI interface to set the primary for xyz9.org to ns3 with the new IP address. Both ns1 and ns3 will be configured with all the same zone files. Sit back and hope it doesn't take NSI months to fulfill their end of the deal. Will that work? Are there any stumbling blocks with this approach? Thanks. -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 14: 3:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from stox.sa.enteract.com (stox.sa.enteract.com [207.229.132.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ADF937B6D2 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:02:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from stox@localhost) by stox.sa.enteract.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) id f0EM2m901121; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:02:48 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from stox) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3A60EE08.3C9CD7AF@csocs.com> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:02:48 -0600 (CST) From: "Kenneth P. Stox" To: J & C Frazier Subject: RE: Problems with sendmail and NSI Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've been having the same problem. Interesting to note that NSI's advertising spam comes through to the problem address just fine, as do NIC handle reports. So far, they won't answer any email, and getting through on the phone appears to be virtually impossible. On 14-Jan-01 J & C Frazier wrote: > I recently tried to make some domain modifications with Network > Solutions. > I complete the process successfully and it states it has sent the form > to the > e-mail address I've specified. Unfortunately I don't get the mail. > I've called > them repeatedly and they say it's a problem with my mail settings. The > mail > never hits my box from what I've seen. Nothing in the logs and nothing > in > my /etc/hosts-allow. I can specify to send it to a yahoo or hotmail > account > and it will work, but any domain on this box, won't receive it. I was > wondering > if any of you knew another reason why mail from NSI won't hit sendmail. > It > appears all other mail goes through the box just fine. Thanks. > > J.C. Frazier > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Kenneth P. Stox Date: 14-Jan-01 Time: 16:00:15 ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 14:19:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 57BE937B400 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:18:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29068; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 15:19:56 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 15:19:56 -0700 (MST) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: Steve Price Cc: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Michael_Lyngb=F8l?= , Will Andrews , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: relocating primary DNS server In-Reply-To: <20010114160209.W65118@bonsai.knology.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, Steve Price wrote: > Will that work? Are there any stumbling blocks with this approach? I'm going to back up and start over from scratch and hopefully this will come out better than the mangled thread we have had so far :) Let's say you have a internic record which looks like this: mydomain.com Your contact information ns01.mydomain.com 192.168.1.1 ns02.mydomain.com 192.168.1.2 Also assume you have a whole truckload of domains configured the same way. Also assume that ns02's address needs to be changed to 10.0.0.1. There are (at least) two ways to do this: 1) Create a whole new host record for ns02, calling it ns03 and do the following: a) Configure ns02 with both old and new ns03 addresses. b) add a new NS entry for ns03 into all of the zone files for all the domains which refer to it, with the new ip address Like: IN NS ns01.yourdomain.com. IN NS ns02.yourdomain.com. IN NS ns03.yourdomain.com. c) Give ns03 an A record with the new address: NS03 IN A 10.0.0.1 d) Register ns03 with the registrar of your choice (probably the one with mydomain.com registered) e) Change ALL the registration records for all the domains to include ns03 and not ns02. Pray that you can get them done in a timely fashion. -OR- 2) Renumber the ns02 record to the new address: a) Configure ns02 with both old and new addresses. b) Ensure the nameserver answers authoritatively on both old and new addresses, or at least refers people to the new address. c) Change the A record for ns02 to 10.0.0.1 d) Submit a HOST change requrest for ns02.yourdomain.com to 10.0.0.1 Pray that the registrar can get this done sometime this century. This is assuming that all of the domains use the same name for the secondary server. - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 14:20:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B43F37B400 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 14:20:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA29094; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 15:21:35 -0700 (MST) Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 15:21:35 -0700 (MST) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: "Kenneth P. Stox" Cc: J & C Frazier , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Problems with sendmail and NSI In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If your authentication method is screwed up this will cause this symptom. For instance PGP is seriously screwed up on my FWC handle, and as such the requests at times never go through, and I get the standard "we're contacting people for confirmation" and never get a response. On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, Kenneth P. Stox wrote: > Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:02:48 -0600 (CST) > From: Kenneth P. Stox > To: J & C Frazier > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > > I've been having the same problem. Interesting to note that NSI's advertising > spam comes through to the problem address just fine, as do NIC handle reports. > So far, they won't answer any email, and getting through on the phone appears > to be virtually impossible. > > > On 14-Jan-01 J & C Frazier wrote: > > I recently tried to make some domain modifications with Network > > Solutions. > > I complete the process successfully and it states it has sent the form > > to the > > e-mail address I've specified. Unfortunately I don't get the mail. > > I've called > > them repeatedly and they say it's a problem with my mail settings. The > > mail > > never hits my box from what I've seen. Nothing in the logs and nothing > > in > > my /etc/hosts-allow. I can specify to send it to a yahoo or hotmail > > account > > and it will work, but any domain on this box, won't receive it. I was > > wondering > > if any of you knew another reason why mail from NSI won't hit sendmail. > > It > > appears all other mail goes through the box just fine. Thanks. > > > > J.C. Frazier > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > ---------------------------------- > E-Mail: Kenneth P. Stox > Date: 14-Jan-01 > Time: 16:00:15 > ---------------------------------- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 15:10:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.csocs.com (shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C6E337B400 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 15:10:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from csocs.com (Bdialup74.chyn.uswest.net [209.181.14.233]) by shell.csocs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07463; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:08:03 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from admin@csocs.com) Message-ID: <3A623124.316D8D8F@csocs.com> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:07:17 -0700 From: J & C Frazier Organization: CSOCS Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Forrest W. Christian" Cc: "Kenneth P. Stox" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org My authentication method is mail-from on all domains, contacts, etc. Note: that I can specify it to send to another e-mail that does not go through my fbsd box (yahoo, hotmail) and I'll get the form. It's only mail addresses that this box controls that I don't get the NSI forms through. I do however not have a problem getting NSI spam mail or anyother mail originating from anywhere else. "Forrest W. Christian" wrote: > If your authentication method is screwed up this will cause this > symptom. For instance PGP is seriously screwed up on my FWC handle, and > as such the requests at times never go through, and I get the standard > "we're contacting people for confirmation" and never get a response. > > On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, Kenneth P. Stox wrote: > > > Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:02:48 -0600 (CST) > > From: Kenneth P. Stox > > To: J & C Frazier > > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: RE: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > > > > > I've been having the same problem. Interesting to note that NSI's advertising > > spam comes through to the problem address just fine, as do NIC handle reports. > > So far, they won't answer any email, and getting through on the phone appears > > to be virtually impossible. > > > > > > On 14-Jan-01 J & C Frazier wrote: > > > I recently tried to make some domain modifications with Network > > > Solutions. > > > I complete the process successfully and it states it has sent the form > > > to the > > > e-mail address I've specified. Unfortunately I don't get the mail. > > > I've called > > > them repeatedly and they say it's a problem with my mail settings. The > > > mail > > > never hits my box from what I've seen. Nothing in the logs and nothing > > > in > > > my /etc/hosts-allow. I can specify to send it to a yahoo or hotmail > > > account > > > and it will work, but any domain on this box, won't receive it. I was > > > wondering > > > if any of you knew another reason why mail from NSI won't hit sendmail. > > > It > > > appears all other mail goes through the box just fine. Thanks. > > > > > > J.C. Frazier > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > ---------------------------------- > > E-Mail: Kenneth P. Stox > > Date: 14-Jan-01 > > Time: 16:00:15 > > ---------------------------------- > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com > Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 15:13:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.csocs.com (shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C53A37B401 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 15:13:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from csocs.com (Bdialup74.chyn.uswest.net [209.181.14.233]) by shell.csocs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA07484 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:10:57 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from admin@csocs.com) Message-ID: <3A6231D3.4537DBBB@csocs.com> Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 16:10:11 -0700 From: J & C Frazier Organization: CSOCS Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI References: <3A60EE08.3C9CD7AF@csocs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I made a call to NSI and finally got through after waiting an hour on hold. They sent mail directly from their system to me and it didn't go through. This rules out authentication scheme problems. J.C. Frazier J & C Frazier wrote: > I recently tried to make some domain modifications with Network > Solutions. > I complete the process successfully and it states it has sent the form > to the > e-mail address I've specified. Unfortunately I don't get the mail. > I've called > them repeatedly and they say it's a problem with my mail settings. The > mail > never hits my box from what I've seen. Nothing in the logs and nothing > in > my /etc/hosts-allow. I can specify to send it to a yahoo or hotmail > account > and it will work, but any domain on this box, won't receive it. I was > wondering > if any of you knew another reason why mail from NSI won't hit sendmail. > It > appears all other mail goes through the box just fine. Thanks. > > J.C. Frazier > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 18:19:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9A6237B400 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 18:18:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with UUCP id f0F2Itc26644; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 03:18:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.0.14]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.1/8.11.0) with SMTP id f0F2Iam02110; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 03:18:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <009701c07e99$8222f900$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Reply-To: "Leif Neland" From: "Leif Neland" To: , "Dirk Meyer" References: <004101c07e03$cf5304e0$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> <21e7dVj5YQ@dmeyer.dinoex.sub.org> Subject: Re: sendmail queue Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 03:18:38 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dirk Meyer" To: Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2001 10:04 AM Subject: Re: sendmail queue > Leif Neland wrote:, > > > > If you add entry's in "mailertable" you don't need to permit RELAY for > > Sure? I don't see the relation. > > Sorry for my fuzzy expression. > > > Just if I have a special way for reaching foo.dom doesn't mean I'll allow > > everybody to use me as relay. > > right, that was what I did intend to tell. > > You won't allow your primarys domains to RELAY over > the secondary server by default. This is a different configuration. > So to put it perfectly clear: Do we agree that if I'm am a MX for another domain. And I don't have "relay based on MX" And I have a mailertable entry for that other domain, I DO have to explicitly enable relaying to that other domain. Otherwise only I can send to that domain, while others will be getting "relaying denied". Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 19:22:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.in-design.com (www.in-design.com [64.241.125.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 998AB37B400 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 19:22:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from tamer (ba-113.adsl.stargate.net [209.166.187.113]) by www.in-design.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f0FGFlF34577 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:15:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from archive@in-design.com) Reply-To: From: "Intuitive Design Archives" To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: DNS management Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 22:17:58 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all; Just a general question on what tools people are using out there to manage many class C networks dns servers and domain names. We are using BIND but are looking for tools that can more easily generate reports of what machines use what ips, and other such things. How about an sql backend that I could query. Cheers Tamer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 21:26:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from e450.mnsi.net (e450.mnsi.net [206.48.122.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E1EC37B6A0 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 21:26:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from lan4 (dyn216-8-128-247.ADSL.mnsi.net [216.8.128.247]) by e450.mnsi.net (8.8.8/waffleiron) with SMTP id AAA09377; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 00:25:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <006501c07eb3$c20001c0$0400a8c0@Home> From: "Ryan Masse" To: "Dirk Meyer" Cc: "FreeBSD-ISP" References: <009401c07c43$fe735c00$0400a8c0@Home> Subject: Re: sendmail queue Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 00:26:35 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org just so we're on the same page: primary.do.main smpt:[hostname of primary mail-server] should be if the PMS was domain1.com and the SMS backup.domain1.com backup.domain1.com smtp:[domain1.com] yes? From: Dirk Meyer To: > Ryan Masse wrote: > > > Could anyone provide some info with regards to setting up a secondary mail > > server? having the mail get queued in the secondary mail server when the PMS > > is down then send all the mail back to the PMS when back up? > > 1) The easy way: > configure Sendmail to accept mail for this host/domain: > simply add in /etc/mail/mailertable: > > primary.do.main smpt:[hostname of primary mail-server] > > After rebuild of mailertable.db the server will accept mail > for this domain and deliver it towards the primary server. > Please keep the Hostname or IP in square brackets, > to avoid any DNS-lookup. > > > 2) For high loads or long downtime > You might configure a special Queue or requiets it with ETRN, > this could improve the performance, if you expect lots of mail. > This take a bit more work on the configuration. > > kind regards Dirk > > - Dirk Meyer, Im Grund 4, 34317 Habichtswald, Germany > - Tel. +49-5606-6512 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 22:55:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from net2.dinoex.sub.org (net2.dinoex.de [212.184.201.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2615D37B401 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 22:55:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from gate.dinoex.sub.org (dinoex@localhost) by net2.dinoex.sub.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with BSMTP id f0F6t3T11098 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 07:55:03 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org) X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: From: dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org (Dirk Meyer) Organization: privat Subject: Re: sendmail queue Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 07:48:41 +0100 X-Mailer: Dinoex 1.77 References: <004101c07e03$cf5304e0$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> <21e7dVj5YQ@dmeyer.dinoex.sub.org> <009701c07e99$8222f900$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> X-Gateway: ZCONNECT gate.dinoex.sub.org [UNIX/Connect 0.90] X-Accept-Language: de,en X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 16 EC 0A D3 3A 4F 28 8A 8A 47 93 F1 CF 2F 12 X-Noad: Please don't send me ad's by mail. I'm bored by this type of mail. X-Copyright: (C) Copyright 1999 by Dirk Meyer -- All rights reserved. X-Note: sending SPAM is a violation of both german and US law and will at least trigger a complaint at your provider's postmaster. X-PGP-Key-Avail: mailto:pgp-public-keys@keys.de.pgp.net Subject:GET 0x331CDA5D X-ZC-VIA: 20010115000000W+1@dinoex.sub.org Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Leif Neland wrote: > So to put it perfectly clear: Do we agree that if I'm am a MX for another > domain. > And I don't have "relay based on MX" > And I have a mailertable entry for that other domain, > I DO have to explicitly enable relaying to that other domain. Correct ... If its relaying _from_ that Domain. Only you and the computers you have configured to be RELAY for, will send an mail over your server (Outgoing) > Otherwise only I can send to that domain, while others will be getting > "relaying denied". Yes, Only if you have no entry in your mailertable. The entry in mailertable amkes your system accept incoming Mail, without it any MX pointing to you won't work. - relaying denied - kind regards Dirk - Dirk Meyer, Im Grund 4, 34317 Habichtswald, Germany To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 23: 5:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from net2.dinoex.sub.org (net2.dinoex.de [212.184.201.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9356D37B401 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 23:05:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from gate.dinoex.sub.org (dinoex@localhost) by net2.dinoex.sub.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with BSMTP id f0F756L11973 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 08:05:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org) X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: From: dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org (Dirk Meyer) Organization: privat Subject: Re: sendmail queue Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 08:02:26 +0100 X-Mailer: Dinoex 1.77 References: <009401c07c43$fe735c00$0400a8c0@Home> <006501c07eb3$c20001c0$0400a8c0@Home> X-Gateway: ZCONNECT gate.dinoex.sub.org [UNIX/Connect 0.90] X-Accept-Language: de,en X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 16 EC 0A D3 3A 4F 28 8A 8A 47 93 F1 CF 2F 12 X-Noad: Please don't send me ad's by mail. I'm bored by this type of mail. X-Copyright: (C) Copyright 1999 by Dirk Meyer -- All rights reserved. X-Note: sending SPAM is a violation of both german and US law and will at least trigger a complaint at your provider's postmaster. X-PGP-Key-Avail: mailto:pgp-public-keys@keys.de.pgp.net Subject:GET 0x331CDA5D X-ZC-VIA: 20010115000000W+1@dinoex.sub.org Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ryan Masse wrote: > just so we're on the same page: > > primary.do.main smpt:[hostname of primary mail-server] > should be if the PMS was domain1.com and the SMS backup.domain1.com > > backup.domain1.com smtp:[domain1.com] close ... the first pattern is the host/domain we accept. # accept user@domain1.com domain1.com smtp:[domain1.com] # accept user@name.domain1.com .domain1.com smtp:[domain1.com] kind regards Dirk - Dirk Meyer, Im Grund 4, 34317 Habichtswald, Germany To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Jan 14 23:15:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [212.73.210.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 874B037B400 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 23:15:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from sv.Go2France.com (sv.meiway.com [212.73.210.79]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 89AB06A901 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 08:15:02 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010115080954.0374fec0@mail.Go2France.com> X-Sender: lconrad%Go2France.com@mail.Go2France.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 08:13:24 +0100 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad Subject: Re: DNS management In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Just a general question on what tools people are using out there to manage >many class C networks dns servers and domain names. We are using BIND but >are looking for tools that can more easily generate reports of what machines >use what ips, and other such things. How about an sql backend that I could >query. For BIND8, most shops big enough to have many class C's roll their own database backends and consider them proprietary advantages. For BIND9, this will be easier since 9.1 will have prototype database interface with postgres as the sample implementation. Len http://BIND8NT.MEIway.com : Binary for ISC BIND 8.2.3 T9B for NT4 & W2K http://IMGate.MEIway.com : Build free, hi-perf, anti-spam mail gateways To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 15 0:52: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sai.co.za (mail.sai.co.za [196.33.40.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C42BD37B400 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 00:51:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from fdisk ([196.33.40.17]) by mail.sai.co.za (SBMail MTA v2.11(1096) SMTPD32) with ESMTP id AA9376; for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:51:03 0200 (South Africa Standard Time) From: "Dave Wilson" To: Cc: "Wayne@Sai.Co.Za" Subject: DNS redundancy & load balancing Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:52:34 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi guys, howzit going ? We have a primary & secondary DNS server on our local network. We need some utility or setup that will automatically allow our secondary DNS to totally take over from our primary DNS in the event our primary DNS goes down. This means effectively that that in the event of a primary DNS failure our secondary DNS must be able to change it's own IP address to that of the dead primary DNS server and take over all resolution etc. I know little about load balancing or clustering so any input would be appreciated. Thanks. Kindest regards David Wilson The S.A Internet #include To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 15 1: 1:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [212.73.210.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA0337B401 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 01:00:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from sv.Go2France.com (sv.meiway.com [212.73.210.79]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id EF0116A909 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:00:54 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010115095305.02352ec0@mail.Go2France.com> X-Sender: lconrad%Go2France.com@mail.Go2France.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 09:59:10 +0100 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad Subject: Re: DNS redundancy & load balancing In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >We have a primary & secondary DNS server on our local network. >We need some utility or setup that will automatically allow our secondary >DNS to totally take over from our primary DNS in the event our primary DNS >goes down. > >This means effectively that that in the event of a primary DNS failure our >secondary DNS must be able to change it's own IP address to that of the dead >primary DNS server and take over all resolution etc. If both DNS's are in the delegation data for a zone, then the standard query behavior of resolvers and other DNS's will query all delegated DNS's until they get a response. To "DNS clients", there is not a primary or secondary DNS for a zone, all its NS records. Losing one of two NS's is not fatal, and will only slow 50% of the queries that will timeout before trying the other DNS. Load sharing among all DNS's for a zone is already acomplished by DNS altering the physical order of NS records for each query. Len http://BIND8NT.MEIway.com : Binary for ISC BIND 8.2.3 T9B for NT4 & W2K http://IMGate.MEIway.com : Build free, hi-perf, anti-spam mail gateways To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 15 2: 7:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sai.co.za (mail.sai.co.za [196.33.40.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF63237B401 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 02:06:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from fdisk ([196.33.40.17]) by mail.sai.co.za (SBMail MTA v2.11(1096) SMTPD32) with ESMTP id AA9376; for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 12:05:59 0200 (South Africa Standard Time) From: "Dave Wilson" To: "Matthew Horoschun" Cc: Subject: RE: DNS redundancy & load balancing Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 12:07:33 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-reply-to: <3A63C980.92F7022@actweb.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Matthew, Indeed but clients have their primary DNS server set to our primary, thus if our primary goes down no resolution takes place. Clients have a their seconday DNS set to our secondary DNS, but we've found that often M$ machines never even try looking at their secondary DNS server. Any ideas ? Kindest regards David Wilson The S.A Internet #include -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Horoschun [mailto:matthew@actweb.net] Sent: 16 January 2001 06:10 To: Dave Wilson Cc: Wayne@Sai.Co.Za Subject: Re: DNS redundancy & load balancing Dave, DNS is an internally redundant protocol. That is, there is no need to do anything fancy - all you need to do is make sure your other nameserver is acting as a secondary for all the zones on your primary nameserver. Of course, you should really have a secondary nameserver which isn't attached to your local network - to protect against situations when you loose connectivity. Matthew. Dave Wilson wrote: > Hi guys, howzit going ? > > We have a primary & secondary DNS server on our local network. > We need some utility or setup that will automatically allow our secondary > DNS to totally take over from our primary DNS in the event our primary DNS > goes down. > > This means effectively that that in the event of a primary DNS failure our > secondary DNS must be able to change it's own IP address to that of the dead > primary DNS server and take over all resolution etc. > > I know little about load balancing or clustering so any input would be > appreciated. > Thanks. > > Kindest regards > David Wilson > The S.A Internet > > #include > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 15 2:40:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from server.es-marketing.com (esm.es-marketing.com [213.69.92.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D099A37B402 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 02:39:50 -0800 (PST) Received: by RFC1918-Host with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:43:34 +0100 Message-ID: <52B0CEED7643D311B6700050BAA9253702A512@RFC1918-Host> From: steve@es-marketing.com To: admin@csocs.com Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Problems with sendmail and NSI Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:43:33 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi its just a thought but maybe the problem isn't Sendmail. We had some problems in the Summer either never receiving the emails or 2-3 days delayed or half way through the chain nothing more. At the time we suspected that the NSI form system was buggy i.e. It would accept the changes we wanted then send you to the OK form and then not send the email because the error checking/notification wasn't done right on the NSI system. This went on for weeks. We found the problem on our side corrected it and the NSI system worked fine. Then we stopped using NSI. I am sure you have but maybe double check that you are asking the NSI system to do something it can. Cheers Steve -----Original Message----- From: J & C Frazier [mailto:admin@csocs.com] Sent: 15 January 2001 00:10 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI I made a call to NSI and finally got through after waiting an hour on hold. They sent mail directly from their system to me and it didn't go through. This rules out authentication scheme problems. J.C. Frazier J & C Frazier wrote: > I recently tried to make some domain modifications with Network > Solutions. > I complete the process successfully and it states it has sent the form > to the > e-mail address I've specified. Unfortunately I don't get the mail. > I've called > them repeatedly and they say it's a problem with my mail settings. The > mail > never hits my box from what I've seen. Nothing in the logs and nothing > in > my /etc/hosts-allow. I can specify to send it to a yahoo or hotmail > account > and it will work, but any domain on this box, won't receive it. I was > wondering > if any of you knew another reason why mail from NSI won't hit sendmail. > It > appears all other mail goes through the box just fine. Thanks. > > J.C. Frazier > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 15 2:58:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [212.73.210.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F17837B401 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 02:58:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from sv.Go2France.com (sv.meiway.com [212.73.210.79]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id F3BF86A909 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:58:17 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010115115430.03cb4cc0@mail.Go2France.com> X-Sender: lconrad%Go2France.com@mail.Go2France.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:56:39 +0100 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad Subject: RE: DNS redundancy & load balancing In-Reply-To: References: <3A63C980.92F7022@actweb.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Indeed but clients have their primary DNS server set to our primary, thus if >our primary goes down no resolution takes place. >Clients have a their seconday DNS set to our secondary DNS, but we've found >that often M$ machines never even try looking at their secondary DNS server. >Any ideas ? Nice GUI, too bad about the program. :))) Yes, I have heard that MS resolvers don't really fall through to the 2nd+ DNS's that their GUI leads you to believe they will do. Len http://BIND8NT.MEIway.com : Binary for ISC BIND 8.2.3 T9B for NT4 & W2K http://IMGate.MEIway.com : Build free, hi-perf, anti-spam mail gateways To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 15 4: 7:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from orion.buckhorn.net (orion.buckhorn.net [63.151.7.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99F0537B404 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 04:06:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from buckhorn.net (localhost.buckhorn.net [127.0.0.1]) by orion.buckhorn.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0FC6cC06159 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 06:06:38 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob@buckhorn.net) Message-ID: <3A62E7CE.973C0A97@buckhorn.net> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 06:06:38 -0600 From: Bob Martin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DNS redundancy & load balancing References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dave Wilson wrote: > > Hi guys, howzit going ? > > We have a primary & secondary DNS server on our local network. > We need some utility or setup that will automatically allow our secondary > DNS to totally take over from our primary DNS in the event our primary DNS > goes down. > > This means effectively that that in the event of a primary DNS failure our > secondary DNS must be able to change it's own IP address to that of the dead > primary DNS server and take over all resolution etc. > > I know little about load balancing or clustering so any input would be > appreciated. > Thanks. > > Kindest regards > David Wilson > The S.A Internet > > #include > Cisco routers with IP plus can do this for you with NAT/load balancing. Both servers get a "bogus" address NAT'ed to both real IP's. Also, most modern programmable switches can also do this to some degree. See the appropriate documentation for details. You could also write a perl script to check for the presence of a box, and if it's not available, assume it's identity. But that can be very messy when the second box comes back on line. If you have a lot of traffic, you might want to look at a hardware load balancer. And finally, if the clients are connecting to you via a NAS, check the docs on the NAS to see if/what it can do for DNS. We are using Total Control 1000's, and they assign themselves as the DNS server, and handle all DNS queries in forward only mode. Completely solves the problem. A foot note. The resolver routines in 98se and new MS products work fine. But both MS and Netscape added DNS "helpers" to their browsers that cache DNS server addresses. We never had problems with a DNS server going off line until they did this. Bob Martin -- As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality. -- Albert Einstein To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 15 6: 0:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sai.co.za (mail.sai.co.za [196.33.40.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2B76837B6A3 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 05:59:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from fdisk ([196.33.40.17]) by mail.sai.co.za (SBMail MTA v2.11(1096) SMTPD32) with ESMTP id AA9376; for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 15:59:03 0200 (South Africa Standard Time) From: "Dave Wilson" To: "Matthew Horoschun" Cc: Subject: RE: DNS redundancy & load balancing Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 16:00:36 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-reply-to: <3A63E62D.1E7D15AB@actweb.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Matthew, Thanks for getting back to me. Yea our NAS assigns our clients both DNS.... unfortunately many of our clients are still using Win '95. Kindest regards David Wilson The S.A Internet #include -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Horoschun [mailto:matthew@actweb.net] Sent: 16 January 2001 08:12 To: Dave Wilson Subject: Re: DNS redundancy & load balancing Dave Wilson wrote: > Hi Matthew, > > Indeed but clients have their primary DNS server set to our primary, thus if > our primary goes down no resolution takes place. > Clients have a their seconday DNS set to our secondary DNS, but we've found > that often M$ machines never even try looking at their secondary DNS server. > Any ideas ? Dave, Do your access servers allocate your customers with Name server IP's on connection? Are you specifying both there? I've seen the same thing in the past... although I have a feeling it was a bug that M$ fixed by about the time 'doze98 came out?... i.e. in DUN1.2? Matthew. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 15 6: 8: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from orion.psknet.com (mail.psknet.com [63.171.251.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 84BE837B402 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 06:07:45 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 12067 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2001 14:07:38 -0000 Received: from abyss.dashit.net (HELO ABYSS) (209.100.22.250) by mail.psknet.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2001 14:07:38 -0000 From: "Troy Settle" To: Subject: RE: sendmail queue Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 09:07:38 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Clarification please. I use qmail myself, but was recently asked about this functionality in sendmail. It is/was my understanding that (assuming all sendmail): - all MX hosts need to have the domain listed in the access.db to allow relaying - primary MX has domain in sendmail.cw - if a secondary MX recieves a message, it attempts to deliver to primary/better MX or queues the message until it can complete delivery - if the mail needs to go to a mail server that is /not/ the primary MX, then on each MX you would create an entry in the mailertable: domain.com smtp:real-mail-server.domain.com Is this correct? -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks 540.994.4254 They told me to think out of the box, but I tripped over it, now I own my own company. ** -----Original Message----- ** From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG ** [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dirk Meyer ** Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 1:49 AM ** To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG ** Subject: Re: sendmail queue ** ** ** Leif Neland wrote: ** ** > So to put it perfectly clear: Do we agree that if I'm am a MX ** for another ** > domain. ** > And I don't have "relay based on MX" ** > And I have a mailertable entry for that other domain, ** > I DO have to explicitly enable relaying to that other domain. ** ** Correct ... If its relaying _from_ that Domain. ** Only you and the computers you have configured to be RELAY for, ** will send an mail over your server (Outgoing) ** ** > Otherwise only I can send to that domain, while others will be getting ** > "relaying denied". ** ** Yes, Only if you have no entry in your mailertable. ** ** The entry in mailertable amkes your system accept incoming Mail, ** without it any MX pointing to you won't work. ** - relaying denied - ** ** kind regards Dirk ** ** - Dirk Meyer, Im Grund 4, 34317 Habichtswald, Germany ** ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ** with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 15 6: 8:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from taz.inu.net (taz.inu.net [63.151.3.239]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F21237B404 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 06:08:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from inu.net (taz.inu.net [63.151.3.239]) by taz.inu.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f0FE80N08061 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 08:08:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob@inu.net) Message-ID: <3A630440.4F2EC7CE@inu.net> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 08:08:00 -0600 From: Bob Martin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: DNS redundancy & load balancing References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dave Wilson wrote: > > > Thanks for getting back to me. > Yea our NAS assigns our clients both DNS.... unfortunately many of our > clients are still using Win '95. > > Kindest regards > David Wilson > The S.A Internet > > #include > See if your NAS's will do DNS. (Act as a DNS server) -- Bob Martin, CTO InterNet Unlimited http://www.inu.net mailto:bob@inu.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 15 6:14:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from orion.psknet.com (mail.psknet.com [63.171.251.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 190B037B699 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 06:13:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 13337 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2001 14:13:57 -0000 Received: from abyss.dashit.net (HELO ABYSS) (209.100.22.250) by mail.psknet.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2001 14:13:57 -0000 From: "Troy Settle" To: "Dave Wilson" Cc: Subject: RE: DNS redundancy & load balancing Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 09:13:57 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-reply-to: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dave, I believe you can achive this with some creative routing: Assuming you have 2 boxes to do DNS, bind the both of the IPs that you assign for DNS servers to the loopback device, then set up routes for both IPs to both boxes. If one of the boxes goes down, the route will become invalid, causing the other box to pull the full load. Gateway: 192.168.10.1 Box1: fxp0 - 192.168.10.2 lo0 - 192.168.20.2 and 192.168.20.3 Box2: fxp0 - 192.168.10.3 lo0 - 192.168.20.2 and 192.168.20.3 Either use OSPF (ala Zebra), or set up static routes on the gateway. OSPF is my preference. -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks 540.994.4254 They told me to think out of the box, but I tripped over it, now I own my own company. ** -----Original Message----- ** From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG ** [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dave Wilson ** Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 9:01 AM ** To: Matthew Horoschun ** Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG ** Subject: RE: DNS redundancy & load balancing ** ** ** Hi Matthew, ** ** Thanks for getting back to me. ** Yea our NAS assigns our clients both DNS.... unfortunately many of our ** clients are still using Win '95. ** ** Kindest regards ** David Wilson ** The S.A Internet ** ** ** ** ** #include ** ** -----Original Message----- ** From: Matthew Horoschun [mailto:matthew@actweb.net] ** Sent: 16 January 2001 08:12 ** To: Dave Wilson ** Subject: Re: DNS redundancy & load balancing ** ** ** ** ** Dave Wilson wrote: ** ** > Hi Matthew, ** > ** > Indeed but clients have their primary DNS server set to our ** primary, thus ** if ** > our primary goes down no resolution takes place. ** > Clients have a their seconday DNS set to our secondary DNS, but we've ** found ** > that often M$ machines never even try looking at their secondary DNS ** server. ** > Any ideas ? ** ** Dave, ** ** Do your access servers allocate your customers with Name server IP's on ** connection? Are you specifying both there? ** ** I've seen the same thing in the past... although I have a ** feeling it was a ** bug ** that M$ fixed by about the time 'doze98 came out?... i.e. in DUN1.2? ** ** Matthew. ** ** ** ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ** with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 15 7:58:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from heaven.gigo.com (heaven.gigo.com [209.0.55.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4297837B400 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 07:58:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost.gigo.com [127.0.0.1]) by heaven.gigo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 501761705E; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 07:58:01 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 07:58:01 -0800 (PST) From: Jason Fesler To: Dave Wilson Cc: Matthew Horoschun , Subject: RE: DNS redundancy & load balancing In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Indeed but clients have their primary DNS server set to our primary, thus if > our primary goes down no resolution takes place. > Clients have a their seconday DNS set to our secondary DNS, but we've found > that often M$ machines never even try looking at their secondary DNS server. > Any ideas ? Move your DNS servers to different IP addresses, ones that are not published. Assign virtual IP addresses (the published ones). If you have a DNS failure or host failure, you can remove (if needed) the published virtual IP, and put it on as a second virtual IP on the remaining host. If you're good, you can even automate this with creative use of a third host for monitoring and administering the IP changes. OF course, you can also just solve this with hardware, ala Alteons and their like, but most ISP's are too cheap. [Been there, done that, got screwed on the tshirt. ;-)] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 15 9: 7:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0513737B400 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 09:06:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with UUCP id f0FH6rS45220; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 18:06:53 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.0.14]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.1/8.11.0) with SMTP id f0FH6am06522; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 18:06:41 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <009d01c07f15$907e2200$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Reply-To: "Leif Neland" From: "Leif Neland" To: "Troy Settle" , References: Subject: Re: sendmail queue Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 18:06:44 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Troy Settle" To: Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 3:07 PM Subject: RE: sendmail queue > > Clarification please. I use qmail myself, but was recently asked about this > functionality in sendmail. > > It is/was my understanding that (assuming all sendmail): > > - all MX hosts need to have the domain listed in the access.db > to allow relaying > > - primary MX has domain in sendmail.cw > > - if a secondary MX recieves a message, it attempts to deliver > to primary/better MX or queues the message until it can > complete delivery > > - if the mail needs to go to a mail server that is /not/ the > primary MX, then on each MX you would create an entry in the > mailertable: > > domain.com smtp:real-mail-server.domain.com > > Is this correct? > I belive you are 100% correct. A little thing, which usually doesn't matter: In mailertable, put square brackets around: domain.com smtp:[real-mail-server.domain.com] to avoid looking up MX record for real-mail-server.domain.com Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 15 9:11:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.tcworks.net (mail.tcworks.net [216.61.218.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FA9E37B401 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 09:11:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from tcworks.net (stuck.sticky.org [216.61.218.6]) by mail.tcworks.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f0FH7cD34894; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:07:38 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A632F85.90C1F83@tcworks.net> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 11:12:37 -0600 From: Chris Cook X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Dirk Meyer Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail queue References: <3A613A19.3D7A6895@quake.com.au> <002401c07df7$ac1c3de0$0400a8c0@Home> <21e7dW2RC5@dmeyer.dinoex.sub.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have had many people tell me that using a CNAME to point to a mail server is a very bad thing that will cause issues with some MTA's... can anyone explain to me why? (just saw a CNAME for a mail server in this example). Dirk Meyer wrote: > > IT must be published in your DNS zone, > here an example: > > www.some-domain.net. IN A 192.168.1.1 > ftp.some-domain.net. CNAME www.some-domain.net. > mail.some-domain.net. CNAME www.some-domain.net. <========== > > backup.some-other.net. IN A 192.168.2.1 > > some-domain.net. IN MX 10 www.some-domain.net. > some-domain.net. IN MX 20 backup.some-other.net. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 15 9:14:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bogon.kjsl.com (bogon.kjsl.com [206.55.236.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2536D37B400 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 09:14:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from javier@localhost) by bogon.kjsl.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f0FHDt460025; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 09:13:55 -0800 (PST) From: Javier Henderson MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14947.12243.400265.573953@bogon.kjsl.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 09:13:55 -0800 (PST) To: Chris Cook Cc: Dirk Meyer , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail queue In-Reply-To: <3A632F85.90C1F83@tcworks.net> References: <3A613A19.3D7A6895@quake.com.au> <002401c07df7$ac1c3de0$0400a8c0@Home> <21e7dW2RC5@dmeyer.dinoex.sub.org> <3A632F85.90C1F83@tcworks.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under Emacs 19.34.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chris Cook writes: > I have had many people tell me that using a CNAME to point to a mail > server is a very bad thing that will cause issues with some MTA's... can > anyone explain to me why? (just saw a CNAME for a mail server in this > example). MX records are supposed to point to hosts for which an A record exists. Most MTA's will work with MX records pointing to CNAMEs (some will log a warning) however. A big offender of this rule is AOL, for example. -jav To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 15 10:53:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from orion.psknet.com (mail.psknet.com [63.171.251.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 234F137B402 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:52:55 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 70658 invoked from network); 15 Jan 2001 18:52:54 -0000 Received: from arcadia.psknet.com (HELO arcadia) (63.171.251.7) by mail.psknet.com with SMTP; 15 Jan 2001 18:52:54 -0000 From: "Troy Settle" To: "Chris Cook" Cc: Subject: RE: sendmail queue Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 13:52:37 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <3A632F85.90C1F83@tcworks.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chris, Look again. 'mail' is a cname pointing to the host 'www'. The MX record is also pointed to the host 'www'. The CNAME in this case doesn't actually involve the MX records at all. -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks 540.994.4254 It's always a long day, 86400 doesn't fit into a short ** -----Original Message----- ** From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG ** [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Chris Cook ** Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:13 PM ** To: Dirk Meyer ** Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG ** Subject: Re: sendmail queue ** ** ** I have had many people tell me that using a CNAME to point to a mail ** server is a very bad thing that will cause issues with some MTA's... can ** anyone explain to me why? (just saw a CNAME for a mail server in this ** example). ** ** Dirk Meyer wrote: ** > ** > IT must be published in your DNS zone, ** > here an example: ** > ** > www.some-domain.net. IN A 192.168.1.1 ** > ftp.some-domain.net. CNAME www.some-domain.net. ** > mail.some-domain.net. CNAME www.some-domain.net. <========== ** > ** > backup.some-other.net. IN A 192.168.2.1 ** > ** > some-domain.net. IN MX 10 www.some-domain.net. ** > some-domain.net. IN MX 20 backup.some-other.net. ** ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ** with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 15 10:58:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.tcworks.net (mail.tcworks.net [216.61.218.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED52037B402 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 10:58:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from tcworks.net (stuck.sticky.org [216.61.218.6]) by mail.tcworks.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f0FIsmD40637; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 12:54:48 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A6348A4.DFFD5E8@tcworks.net> Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 12:59:48 -0600 From: Chris Cook X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Troy Settle Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail queue References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Right... my bad. Thanks to all for the answers btw. /Chris Troy Settle wrote: > > Chris, > > Look again. 'mail' is a cname pointing to the host 'www'. The MX record is > also pointed to the host 'www'. The CNAME in this case doesn't actually > involve the MX records at all. > > -- > Troy Settle > Pulaski Networks > 540.994.4254 > > It's always a long day, 86400 doesn't fit into a short > > ** -----Original Message----- > ** From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > ** [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Chris Cook > ** Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 12:13 PM > ** To: Dirk Meyer > ** Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > ** Subject: Re: sendmail queue > ** > ** > ** I have had many people tell me that using a CNAME to point to a mail > ** server is a very bad thing that will cause issues with some MTA's... can > ** anyone explain to me why? (just saw a CNAME for a mail server in this > ** example). > ** > ** Dirk Meyer wrote: > ** > > ** > IT must be published in your DNS zone, > ** > here an example: > ** > > ** > www.some-domain.net. IN A 192.168.1.1 > ** > ftp.some-domain.net. CNAME www.some-domain.net. > ** > mail.some-domain.net. CNAME www.some-domain.net. <========== > ** > > ** > backup.some-other.net. IN A 192.168.2.1 > ** > > ** > some-domain.net. IN MX 10 www.some-domain.net. > ** > some-domain.net. IN MX 20 backup.some-other.net. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 15 12:25:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from net2.dinoex.sub.org (net2.dinoex.de [212.184.201.182]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 293B737B402 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 12:25:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from gate.dinoex.sub.org (dinoex@localhost) by net2.dinoex.sub.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with BSMTP id f0FKP4P24879 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 21:25:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org) X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Message-ID: From: dirk.meyer@dinoex.sub.org (Dirk Meyer) Organization: privat Subject: Re: sendmail queue Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 21:21:06 +0100 X-Mailer: Dinoex 1.77 References: X-Gateway: ZCONNECT gate.dinoex.sub.org [UNIX/Connect 0.90] X-Accept-Language: de,en X-PGP-Fingerprint: 44 16 EC 0A D3 3A 4F 28 8A 8A 47 93 F1 CF 2F 12 X-Noad: Please don't send me ad's by mail. I'm bored by this type of mail. X-Copyright: (C) Copyright 1999 by Dirk Meyer -- All rights reserved. X-Note: sending SPAM is a violation of both german and US law and will at least trigger a complaint at your provider's postmaster. X-PGP-Key-Avail: mailto:pgp-public-keys@keys.de.pgp.net Subject:GET 0x331CDA5D X-ZC-VIA: 20010115000000W+1@dinoex.sub.org Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Troy Settle wrote: > Clarification please. I use qmail myself, but was recently asked about this > functionality in sendmail. > > It is/was my understanding that (assuming all sendmail): > > - all MX hosts need to have the domain listed in the access.db > to allow relaying All hosts you would like to allow to use your server for RELAY should be listed in the access.db. It don't matter if they have and MX to you or not. > - primary MX has domain in sendmail.cw yes .. only when it delivers all the mail local. Instead the primary MX server may send all mail via the mailertable to a host behind a firewall, which holds all the mail accounts and delivers local. All names for local delivery must be listed in sendmail.cw or named "/etc/mail/local-host-names". > - if a secondary MX recieves a message, it attempts to deliver > to primary/better MX or queues the message until it can > complete delivery right. > - if the mail needs to go to a mail server that is /not/ the > primary MX, then on each MX you would create an entry in the > mailertable: > > domain.com smtp:real-mail-server.domain.com right. But you would like to write: domain.com smtp:[real-mail-server.domain.com] Otherwise your get an error if real-mail-server.domain.com is not accepting, and sendmail will complain the MX points back to itself. kind regards Dirk - Dirk Meyer, Im Grund 4, 34317 Habichtswald, Germany To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 15 17:49:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from chiark.greenend.org.uk (chiark.greenend.org.uk [195.224.76.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E348337B69F for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 17:49:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from (hand.dotat.at) [127.0.0.1] (root) by chiark.greenend.org.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #2) id 14ILFA-0004nz-00 (Debian); Tue, 16 Jan 2001 01:49:05 +0000 Received: from fanf by hand.dotat.at with local (Exim 3.15 #3) id 14Hh70-00060f-00; Sun, 14 Jan 2001 06:57:58 +0000 Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 06:57:58 +0000 From: Tony Finch To: John Woodruff Cc: Dave VanAuken , Jan Knepper , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: T1/DS1 Message-ID: <20010114065758.B78554@hand.dotat.at> References: <3A5FBD7A.3E8FA09F@woodruffs.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <3A5FBD7A.3E8FA09F@woodruffs.net> Organization: Covalent Technologies, Inc Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John Woodruff wrote: > >Brings back memories of my last ISP. In 1996, I think. After running >the building out of copper cables - twice - Bell Awful finally brought >in a SONET ring, filled one wall of our suite with Lightspan SLC's, and >terminated 2000 POTS pairs for modems. Good grief. That sounds like Demon Internet in the UK in 1994. Tony. -- f.a.n.finch fanf@covalent.net dot@dotat.at "Well, as long as they can think we'll have our problems. But those whom we're using cannot think." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 15 19: 0:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from koala.aussie.net (koala.aussie.net [203.56.129.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA4EF37B401 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 19:00:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (andrewk@localhost) by koala.aussie.net (8.9.3/8.9.3-ARK) with ESMTP id NAA37530; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:58:32 +1100 (EST) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:58:32 +1100 (EST) From: andrew khoo Reply-To: andrew@aussie.net To: Tony Finch Cc: John Woodruff , Dave VanAuken , Jan Knepper , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: T1/DS1 In-Reply-To: <20010114065758.B78554@hand.dotat.at> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 14 Jan 2001, Tony Finch wrote: > >Brings back memories of my last ISP. In 1996, I think. After running > >the building out of copper cables - twice - Bell Awful finally brought > >in a SONET ring, filled one wall of our suite with Lightspan SLC's, and > >terminated 2000 POTS pairs for modems. > > Good grief. That sounds like Demon Internet in the UK in 1994. > and is still happening in parts of europe and australia today...... :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Jan 15 21:10:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.netsol.net (mail.netsol.net [216.179.148.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5D5637B401 for ; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 21:10:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from fire ([63.194.3.101]) by mail1.netsol.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-12345L500S10000V35) with SMTP id net; Mon, 15 Jan 2001 21:17:58 -0800 Message-ID: <002b01c07f7a$9b6a8180$6503c23f@XGforce.com> Reply-To: "jl" From: "jl" To: "Jason Fesler" , "Dave Wilson" Cc: "Matthew Horoschun" , References: Subject: Re: DNS redundancy & load balancing Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2001 21:10:13 -0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You may check out www.xgforce.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Jason Fesler To: Dave Wilson Cc: Matthew Horoschun ; Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 7:58 AM Subject: RE: DNS redundancy & load balancing > > Indeed but clients have their primary DNS server set to our primary, thus if > > our primary goes down no resolution takes place. > > Clients have a their seconday DNS set to our secondary DNS, but we've found > > that often M$ machines never even try looking at their secondary DNS server. > > Any ideas ? > > Move your DNS servers to different IP addresses, ones that are not > published. Assign virtual IP addresses (the published ones). If you have > a DNS failure or host failure, you can remove (if needed) the published > virtual IP, and put it on as a second virtual IP on the remaining host. > If you're good, you can even automate this with creative use of a third > host for monitoring and administering the IP changes. > > OF course, you can also just solve this with hardware, ala Alteons and > their like, but most ISP's are too cheap. [Been there, done that, got > screwed on the tshirt. ;-)] > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 16 3:13:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sai.co.za (mail.sai.co.za [196.33.40.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5C0F37B6A5 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 03:13:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from fdisk ([196.33.40.17]) by mail.sai.co.za (SBMail MTA v2.11(1096) SMTPD32) with ESMTP id AA9376; for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:12:27 0200 (South Africa Standard Time) From: "Dave Wilson" To: "Troy Settle" Cc: Subject: RE: DNS redundancy & load balancing (Thanks everyone: will test out the options soon) Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 13:13:51 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Troy & everyone, Thanks for your input, I'll give all options a try soon. Kindest regards David Wilson The S.A Internet #include -----Original Message----- From: Troy Settle [mailto:troy@psknet.com] Sent: 15 January 2001 04:14 To: Dave Wilson Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: DNS redundancy & load balancing Dave, I believe you can achive this with some creative routing: Assuming you have 2 boxes to do DNS, bind the both of the IPs that you assign for DNS servers to the loopback device, then set up routes for both IPs to both boxes. If one of the boxes goes down, the route will become invalid, causing the other box to pull the full load. Gateway: 192.168.10.1 Box1: fxp0 - 192.168.10.2 lo0 - 192.168.20.2 and 192.168.20.3 Box2: fxp0 - 192.168.10.3 lo0 - 192.168.20.2 and 192.168.20.3 Either use OSPF (ala Zebra), or set up static routes on the gateway. OSPF is my preference. -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks 540.994.4254 They told me to think out of the box, but I tripped over it, now I own my own company. ** -----Original Message----- ** From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG ** [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dave Wilson ** Sent: Monday, January 15, 2001 9:01 AM ** To: Matthew Horoschun ** Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG ** Subject: RE: DNS redundancy & load balancing ** ** ** Hi Matthew, ** ** Thanks for getting back to me. ** Yea our NAS assigns our clients both DNS.... unfortunately many of our ** clients are still using Win '95. ** ** Kindest regards ** David Wilson ** The S.A Internet ** ** ** ** ** #include ** ** -----Original Message----- ** From: Matthew Horoschun [mailto:matthew@actweb.net] ** Sent: 16 January 2001 08:12 ** To: Dave Wilson ** Subject: Re: DNS redundancy & load balancing ** ** ** ** ** Dave Wilson wrote: ** ** > Hi Matthew, ** > ** > Indeed but clients have their primary DNS server set to our ** primary, thus ** if ** > our primary goes down no resolution takes place. ** > Clients have a their seconday DNS set to our secondary DNS, but we've ** found ** > that often M$ machines never even try looking at their secondary DNS ** server. ** > Any ideas ? ** ** Dave, ** ** Do your access servers allocate your customers with Name server IP's on ** connection? Are you specifying both there? ** ** I've seen the same thing in the past... although I have a ** feeling it was a ** bug ** that M$ fixed by about the time 'doze98 came out?... i.e. in DUN1.2? ** ** Matthew. ** ** ** ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ** with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 16 22:56:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.csocs.com (shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DFDD37B400 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 22:56:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from csocs.com (chynapanas04poolA165.chyn.uswest.net [63.228.232.165]) by shell.csocs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA22108 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:54:22 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from admin@csocs.com) Message-ID: <3A654161.AB2FF9F5@csocs.com> Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:53:21 -0700 From: J & C Frazier Organization: CSOCS Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI References: <3A60EE08.3C9CD7AF@csocs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org And it escalates..... Tried to send NSI a form (that I had them send to an "off box" address). It seems not only do I not "get" their mail, but I can't "send" to them either. Gotta love it.....I'm out of ideas and they're no help. Numerous tries now and the following is what I get back: Subject: Warning: could not send message for past 4 hours Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:13:57 -0700 (MST) From: Mail Delivery Subsystem To: ********************************************** ** THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY ** ** YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE ** ********************************************** The original message was received at Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:12:11 -0700 (MST) from Bdialup74.chyn.uswest.net [209.181.14.233] ----- The following addresses had transient non-fatal errors ----- ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... Deferred: Operation timed out with networksolutions.com. Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours Will keep trying until message is 5 days old To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 16 23: 5: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 925C637B401 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:04:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA17437; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:05:39 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:05:39 -0700 (MST) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: J & C Frazier Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI In-Reply-To: <3A654161.AB2FF9F5@csocs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You have an IP connectivity problem. Period. This is not DNS/Sendmail related, or at least it doesn't look like it. Can you telnet to their mail servers, port 25? On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, J & C Frazier wrote: > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:53:21 -0700 > From: J & C Frazier > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > And it escalates..... > > Tried to send NSI a form (that I had them send to an "off box" address). > It seems not only do I not "get" their mail, but I can't "send" to them > either. > Gotta love it.....I'm out of ideas and they're no help. Numerous tries now > > and the following is what I get back: > > Subject: Warning: could not send message for past 4 hours > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:13:57 -0700 (MST) > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem > To: > > ********************************************** > ** THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY ** > ** YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE ** > ********************************************** > > The original message was received at Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:12:11 -0700 > (MST) from Bdialup74.chyn.uswest.net [209.181.14.233] > > ----- The following addresses had transient non-fatal errors ----- > > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > ... Deferred: Operation timed out with > networksolutions.com. > Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours > Will keep trying until message is 5 days old > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 16 23:26:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.csocs.com (shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69C4037B400 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:26:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from csocs.com (chynapanas04poolA165.chyn.uswest.net [63.228.232.165]) by shell.csocs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA22279; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:24:17 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from admin@csocs.com) Message-ID: <3A654864.73B8418@csocs.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:23:16 -0700 From: J & C Frazier Organization: CSOCS Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Forrest W. Christian" , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The box I connected from to www.networksolutions.com to create the form has no problem connecting to the mail servers for NSI. The box in question however, that does control the e-mail, could not. It timed out. This is strange, because the box has no problem getting or sending anyother mail. If this isn't a dns/sendmail problem, and my IPs seem to be functioning fine elsewhere on the Internet.....then I'm not quite sure where to go next. Thanks for your response and help. J.C. Frazier "Forrest W. Christian" wrote: > You have an IP connectivity problem. Period. > > This is not DNS/Sendmail related, or at least it doesn't look like it. > > Can you telnet to their mail servers, port 25? > > On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, J & C Frazier wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:53:21 -0700 > > From: J & C Frazier > > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > > > And it escalates..... > > > > Tried to send NSI a form (that I had them send to an "off box" address). > > It seems not only do I not "get" their mail, but I can't "send" to them > > either. > > Gotta love it.....I'm out of ideas and they're no help. Numerous tries now > > > > and the following is what I get back: > > > > Subject: Warning: could not send message for past 4 hours > > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:13:57 -0700 (MST) > > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem > > To: > > > > ********************************************** > > ** THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY ** > > ** YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE ** > > ********************************************** > > > > The original message was received at Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:12:11 -0700 > > (MST) from Bdialup74.chyn.uswest.net [209.181.14.233] > > > > ----- The following addresses had transient non-fatal errors ----- > > > > > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > > ... Deferred: Operation timed out with > > networksolutions.com. > > Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours > > Will keep trying until message is 5 days old > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com > Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Jan 16 23:43:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D70737B400 for ; Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:42:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA17595; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:43:45 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:43:45 -0700 (MST) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: J & C Frazier Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI In-Reply-To: <3A654864.73B8418@csocs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is there any way you can actually try (or get someone to try) a telnet/ping/etc. from the mail server? On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, J & C Frazier wrote: > Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 00:23:16 -0700 > From: J & C Frazier > To: Forrest W. Christian , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > The box I connected from to www.networksolutions.com to create the form > has no problem connecting to the mail servers for NSI. The box in question > however, that does control the e-mail, could not. It timed out. This is > strange, > because the box has no problem getting or sending anyother mail. If this isn't > a dns/sendmail problem, and my IPs seem to be functioning fine elsewhere on > the Internet.....then I'm not quite sure where to go next. Thanks for your > response and help. > > J.C. Frazier > > "Forrest W. Christian" wrote: > > > You have an IP connectivity problem. Period. > > > > This is not DNS/Sendmail related, or at least it doesn't look like it. > > > > Can you telnet to their mail servers, port 25? > > > > On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, J & C Frazier wrote: > > > > > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:53:21 -0700 > > > From: J & C Frazier > > > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > > > > > And it escalates..... > > > > > > Tried to send NSI a form (that I had them send to an "off box" address). > > > It seems not only do I not "get" their mail, but I can't "send" to them > > > either. > > > Gotta love it.....I'm out of ideas and they're no help. Numerous tries now > > > > > > and the following is what I get back: > > > > > > Subject: Warning: could not send message for past 4 hours > > > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:13:57 -0700 (MST) > > > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem > > > To: > > > > > > ********************************************** > > > ** THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY ** > > > ** YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE ** > > > ********************************************** > > > > > > The original message was received at Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:12:11 -0700 > > > (MST) from Bdialup74.chyn.uswest.net [209.181.14.233] > > > > > > ----- The following addresses had transient non-fatal errors ----- > > > > > > > > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > > > ... Deferred: Operation timed out with > > > networksolutions.com. > > > Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours > > > Will keep trying until message is 5 days old > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com > > Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 4:26:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.cb21.co.jp (ns1.cb21.co.jp [203.140.149.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D2C5F37B699 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 04:26:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 62773 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2001 21:26:21 +0900 Received: from localhost.cb21.co.jp (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.cb21.co.jp with SMTP; 17 Jan 2001 21:26:21 +0900 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RAID Configuration for Mail Server (1 or 5) From: Sys Admin X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 19.34 / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010117212621N.admin@cb21.co.jp> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:26:21 +0900 X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 14 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, We have a mail server that supports few hundred domains supporting few thousand pop accounts. . What kind of RAID configuration suit a fairly busy mail server ? It is my understanding that RAID 5 is little bit slow for active server. What are the performance issues that needs to be thought of when selecting a RAID configuration ? Thanks in advance for any useful input. Tad. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 6: 8:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dsl.MexComUSA.net (adsl-63-200-120-86.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.200.120.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5B737B698 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 06:08:14 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by dsl.MexComUSA.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f0HE3V141559; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 06:03:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Received: from 63.205.16.202 ( [63.205.16.202]) as user eculp@EnContacto.Net by Mail.MexComUSA.net with HTTP; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 06:03:30 -0800 Message-ID: <979740210.3a65a632d7e3a@Mail.MexComUSA.net> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 06:03:30 -0800 From: Edwin Culp To: J & C Frazier Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI References: <3A60EE08.3C9CD7AF@csocs.com> <3A654161.AB2FF9F5@csocs.com> In-Reply-To: <3A654161.AB2FF9F5@csocs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 2.3.6-cvs Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just out of curiosity, what happens if you try to send it by using telnet to port 25? Then just cut and paste your form, but I have an idea there may be another problem. telnet networksolutions.com 25 Trying 216.168.224.69... Connected to networksolutions.com. Escape character is '^]'. 220 networksolutions.com ESMTP ed networksolutions.com preference = 10, mail exchanger = networksolutions.com Quoting J & C Frazier : > And it escalates..... > > Tried to send NSI a form (that I had them send to an "off box" address). > It seems not only do I not "get" their mail, but I can't "send" to them > either. > Gotta love it.....I'm out of ideas and they're no help. Numerous tries now > > and the following is what I get back: > > Subject: Warning: could not send message for past 4 hours > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:13:57 -0700 (MST) > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem > To: > > ********************************************** > ** THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY ** > ** YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE ** > ********************************************** > > The original message was received at Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:12:11 -0700 > (MST) from Bdialup74.chyn.uswest.net [209.181.14.233] > > ----- The following addresses had transient non-fatal errors ----- > > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > ... Deferred: Operation timed out with > networksolutions.com. > Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours > Will keep trying until message is 5 days old > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -- EnContacto.Net - InternetSalon.Org - CafeMania.Net -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 6:15:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dsl.MexComUSA.net (adsl-63-200-120-86.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.200.120.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0DAB37B404 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 06:14:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by dsl.MexComUSA.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f0HEAGp44900; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 06:10:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Received: from 63.205.16.202 ( [63.205.16.202]) as user eculp@EnContacto.Net by Mail.MexComUSA.net with HTTP; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 06:10:15 -0800 Message-ID: <979740615.3a65a7c752e1e@Mail.MexComUSA.net> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 06:10:15 -0800 From: Edwin Culp To: J & C Frazier Cc: "Forrest W. Christian" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI References: <3A654864.73B8418@csocs.com> In-Reply-To: <3A654864.73B8418@csocs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 2.3.6-cvs Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I see that I got to this problem a little late so hopefully it is already solved but if not, I would try adding one of the following ip's at the top of my /etc/resolv.conf file and try the telnet again and do the cut and paste or flush my mail queue. NS1.NETSOL.com internet address = 216.168.224.200 NS3.NETSOL.com internet address = 216.168.224.201 NS2.NETSOL.com internet address = 198.17.208.71 in resolv.conf nameserver 216.168.224.200 ed Quoting J & C Frazier : > The box I connected from to www.networksolutions.com to create the form > has no problem connecting to the mail servers for NSI. The box in question > however, that does control the e-mail, could not. It timed out. This is > strange, > because the box has no problem getting or sending anyother mail. If this > isn't > a dns/sendmail problem, and my IPs seem to be functioning fine elsewhere on > the Internet.....then I'm not quite sure where to go next. Thanks for your > response and help. > > J.C. Frazier > > "Forrest W. Christian" wrote: > > > You have an IP connectivity problem. Period. > > > > This is not DNS/Sendmail related, or at least it doesn't look like it. > > > > Can you telnet to their mail servers, port 25? > > > > On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, J & C Frazier wrote: > > > > > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:53:21 -0700 > > > From: J & C Frazier > > > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > > > > > And it escalates..... > > > > > > Tried to send NSI a form (that I had them send to an "off box" > address). > > > It seems not only do I not "get" their mail, but I can't "send" to them > > > either. > > > Gotta love it.....I'm out of ideas and they're no help. Numerous tries > now > > > > > > and the following is what I get back: > > > > > > Subject: Warning: could not send message for past 4 hours > > > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:13:57 -0700 (MST) > > > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem > > > To: > > > > > > ********************************************** > > > ** THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY ** > > > ** YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE ** > > > ********************************************** > > > > > > The original message was received at Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:12:11 -0700 > > > (MST) from Bdialup74.chyn.uswest.net [209.181.14.233] > > > > > > ----- The following addresses had transient non-fatal errors ----- > > > > > > > > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > > > ... Deferred: Operation timed out with > > > networksolutions.com. > > > Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours > > > Will keep trying until message is 5 days old > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com > > Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -- EnContacto.Net - InternetSalon.Org - CafeMania.Net -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 10:24:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cscfx.sytex.com (cscfx.sytex.com [205.147.190.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B3EE37B6B1 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:24:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from rwc@localhost) by cscfx.sytex.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id NAA61183; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:23:54 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rwc) From: Richard Cramer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14949.58170.287928.347341@cscfx.sytex.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:23:54 -0500 (EST) To: Dennis Cc: bv@wjv.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2 cisco's and a fbsd box running bgp In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20010104111052.025ee680@mail.etinc.com> References: <3A53AEA4.1C9E3A30@quake.com.au> <5.0.0.25.0.20010104111052.025ee680@mail.etinc.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.72 under 21.1 (patch 8) "Bryce Canyon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dennis, I am falling behind..are there 64-bit MBs available? If so who's? Do they run FreeBSD? I see you occasionally on the Zebra list occasionally. Are you running Zebra in production and how does it hold up? Hope you have a profitable new year, Dick Sytex Access Ltd. Dennis writes: (test deleted) > Well its an extra few $100., versus paying 75K for a cisco 7xxx series. You > do the math. > > A dual bus 64-bit MB has 5 Gigabits of bus bandwidth (vs 1Gb on a standard > MB). Its a nice solution, particularly if you want to run say 4-8 ethernets > and 4 T3 HSSIs or 12 T1s. > > Dennis > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 10:45:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA3837B6D0 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:45:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from dbsys.etinc.com (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA35230; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:45:42 GMT (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20010117135105.01fd4eb0@mail.etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@mail.etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:52:17 -0500 To: Richard Cramer From: Dennis Subject: Re: 2 cisco's and a fbsd box running bgp Cc: bv@wjv.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <14949.58170.287928.347341@cscfx.sytex.com> References: <5.0.0.25.0.20010104111052.025ee680@mail.etinc.com> <3A53AEA4.1C9E3A30@quake.com.au> <5.0.0.25.0.20010104111052.025ee680@mail.etinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 01:23 PM 01/17/2001, Richard Cramer wrote: >Dennis, > >I am falling behind..are there 64-bit MBs available? If so who's? Do >they run FreeBSD? I see you occasionally on the Zebra list >occasionally. Are you running Zebra in production and how does it >hold up? > >Hope you have a profitable new year, >Dick >Sytex Access Ltd. Most manufacturers have one. Its the Intel SE (server) series chipset. Intel, supermicro, ASUS, they all have them. Dennis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 10:59:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0912137B402 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:58:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14Ix5C-00040v-00; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:13:18 -0800 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 10:12:45 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: Dennis Cc: Richard Cramer , bv@wjv.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2 cisco's and a fbsd box running bgp In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20010117135105.01fd4eb0@mail.etinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Dennis wrote: > At 01:23 PM 01/17/2001, Richard Cramer wrote: > >Dennis, > > > >I am falling behind..are there 64-bit MBs available? If so who's? Do > >they run FreeBSD? I see you occasionally on the Zebra list > >occasionally. Are you running Zebra in production and how does it > >hold up? > > > >Hope you have a profitable new year, > >Dick > >Sytex Access Ltd. > > Most manufacturers have one. Its the Intel SE (server) series chipset. > Intel, supermicro, ASUS, they all have them. Dell, IBM, and HP all the ServerNet chipset instead. For instance, the IBM eServer x340 has 64 bit PCI. I'm using a 64bit Mylex RAID on one of them right now. > Dennis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 11:49: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from inago.swcp.com (inago.swcp.com [198.59.115.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD88737B401 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 11:48:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (deichert@localhost) by inago.swcp.com (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA10719; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:46:59 -0700 (MST) X-Authentication-Warning: inago.swcp.com: deichert owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:46:59 -0700 (MST) From: Diana Eichert X-Sender: deichert@inago.swcp.com To: Richard Cramer Cc: Dennis , bv@wjv.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 2 cisco's and a fbsd box running bgp In-Reply-To: <14949.58170.287928.347341@cscfx.sytex.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Richard Most motherboards that use chipsets from "http://www.serverworks.com/" should support 64-bit PCI slots. As Dennis mentioned most of the larger clone momboard vendors have them available as "server" momboards, ASUS, SuperMicro, blah, blah ..... There are also some Intel i840 chipset momboards out there that have 64-bit PCI slots, stay away from these with a passion, they were originally designed to use RAMBUS memory then a glue chip was designed to use non-RAMBUS memory. If you do a search "http://www.google.com/search?q=i840+problems" you'll get the picture. diana On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Richard Cramer wrote: > Dennis, > > I am falling behind..are there 64-bit MBs available? If so who's? Do > they run FreeBSD? I see you occasionally on the Zebra list > occasionally. Are you running Zebra in production and how does it > hold up? > > Hope you have a profitable new year, > Dick > Sytex Access Ltd. > > Dennis writes: > (test deleted) > > > Well its an extra few $100., versus paying 75K for a cisco 7xxx series. You > > do the math. > > > > A dual bus 64-bit MB has 5 Gigabits of bus bandwidth (vs 1Gb on a standard > > MB). Its a nice solution, particularly if you want to run say 4-8 ethernets > > and 4 T3 HSSIs or 12 T1s. > > > > Dennis Diana Eichert VP Technical Services Nothing in Particular at the Moment, Inc. deichert@wrench.com For PGP Public key http://www.swcp.com/~deichert/pgp_public_key.txt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 12:23:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from krell.webweaver.net (krell.webweaver.net [64.124.90.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 486EC37B404; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:23:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from xwin.nmhtech.com (xwin.daemontech.net [208.138.46.161]) by krell.webweaver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id E51C720F04; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:23:29 -0800 (PST) Content-Length: 1290 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:23:29 -0800 (PST) From: Nicole To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-net@freebsd.org Subject: nfs server not responding - is alive again Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Could anyone tell me please why I would receive these messages and what I can do to help avoid them? The servers are not that busy and the NFS connection is on a private 10.0 interconnect between the servers, yet I still get these now and again. Thanks! Nicole > nfs server c1.pic.com:/home/web/WWW: not responding > nfs server c1.pic.com:/home/web/WWW: is alive again > nfs server c1.pic.com:/home/web/WWW: not responding > nfs server c1.pic.com:/home/web/WWW: is alive again > nfs server c1.pic.com:/home/web/WWW: not responding > nfs server c1.pic.com:/home/web/WWW: is alive again > nfs server c1.pic.com:/home/web/WWW: not responding > nfs server c1.pic.com:/home/web/WWW: is alive again nicole@unixgirl.com |\ __ /| (`\ http://www.unixgirl.com/ webmistress@dangermouse.org | o_o |__ ) ) http://www.dangermouse.org/ nicole@deviantimages.com // \\ http://www.deviantimages.com/ ---------------------------(((---(((---------------------------------------- -- Powered by Coka-Cola and FreeBSD -- -- I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble -- -- Back Up My Hard Drive? I Can't Find The Reverse Switch! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 12:33:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA18537B69C; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:33:12 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f0HKXCB00257; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:33:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 12:33:12 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Nicole Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nfs server not responding - is alive again Message-ID: <20010117123311.A7240@fw.wintelcom.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from nicole@unixgirl.com on Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 12:23:29PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org * Nicole [010117 12:25] wrote: > > Hi > Could anyone tell me please why I would receive these messages and what I can > do to help avoid them? > The servers are not that busy and the NFS connection is on a private 10.0 > interconnect between the servers, yet I still get these now and again. NFS sometimes gets a bit picky about the time to return a response, don't worry about it unless you're experiencing hangs or other problems. It's just telling you that there's a fraction of second of lag happening. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 13:23:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from digitaldaemon.com (digitaldaemon.com [63.105.9.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B61EC37B6BF for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:23:03 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 79769 invoked from network); 17 Jan 2001 21:20:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitaldaemon.com) (192.168.0.73) by jak.org with SMTP; 17 Jan 2001 21:20:31 -0000 Message-ID: <3A660CD8.7090808@digitaldaemon.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:21:28 -0500 From: Jan Knepper User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001108 Netscape6/6.0 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Access statistics for apache Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hii, Does any of you know about a package that does access statistics for apache? Looking through the apache log files I would figure there is something around,... Jan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 13:25: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tigerdyr.lyngbol.dk (tigerdyr.lyngbol.dk [193.162.142.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D24637B6BE for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:24:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by tigerdyr.lyngbol.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E546C9889; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:24:40 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:24:40 +0100 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Michael_Lyngb=F8l?= To: Jan Knepper Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Access statistics for apache Message-ID: <20010117222440.A75140@tigerdyr.lyngbol.dk> References: <3A660CD8.7090808@digitaldaemon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3A660CD8.7090808@digitaldaemon.com>; from jan@digitaldaemon.com on Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 04:21:28PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/i386 4.2-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 04:21:28PM -0500, Jan Knepper wrote: > > Does any of you know about a package that does access statistics for apache? > Looking through the apache log files I would figure there is something > around,... http://www.mrunix.net/webalizer/ does a pretty good job /Michael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 13:27:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cstone.net (mail.cstone.net [209.145.64.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55CFA37B401 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:27:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from cstone.net (aylee.mrgoodbucks.com [209.145.93.143]) by mail.cstone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0HLQkT52296; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:26:47 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3A660E13.787216BE@cstone.net> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:26:43 -0500 From: Sean Michael Whipkey X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Jan Knepper Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Access statistics for apache References: <3A660CD8.7090808@digitaldaemon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jan Knepper wrote: > Does any of you know about a package that does access statistics for apache? > Looking through the apache log files I would figure there is something > around,... Try webalizer, in the ports section: /usr/ports/www/webalizer We use it and it's great. It's free, and the author is a really nice guy. :-) SeanMike -- SeanMike Whipkey - "The Man. The goatee. The reputation." - Kimmet "What the hell is wrong with that boy?!?" - Adrienne Uphoff "What the French lack in reason they make up for in sheer gall." - Onion "Did anyone else read this and think of SeanMike?" - Leybourne To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 13:38:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gate.trident-uk.co.uk (mail.trident-uk.co.uk [195.166.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C50D37B6C3 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:38:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [194.207.93.5] by gate.trident-uk.co.uk for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org id VAA17380; Wed Jan 17 21:33:39 2001 Received: from 194.207.93.5 (freedom.psi-domain.co.uk [194.207.93.139]) by tms1.trident-uk.co.uk (8.9.3/8.8.7) with SMTP id VAA01877; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:31:53 GMT Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:44:35 +0000 Subject: Re: Access statistics for apache Message-ID: <20010117214435.E980@freefire.psi-domain.co.uk> References: <3A660CD8.7090808@digitaldaemon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <3A660CD8.7090808@digitaldaemon.com>; from jan@digitaldaemon.com on Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 21:21:28 +0000 X-Mailer: Balsa 1.0.0 Lines: 34 To: Jan Knepper From: Jamie Heckford Reply-To: heckfordj@psi-domain.co.uk Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Search for Analogue webstats or weblog.pl on yahoo or similar. On 2001.01.17 21:21:28 +0000 Jan Knepper wrote: > Hii, > > Does any of you know about a package that does access statistics for > apache? > Looking through the apache log files I would figure there is something > around,... > > Jan > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > -- Jamie Heckford Chief Network Engineer Psi-Domain - Innovative Linux Solutions. Ask Us How. ===================================== email: heckfordj@psi-domain.co.uk web: http://www.psi-domain.co.uk/ tel: +44 (0)1737 789 246 fax: +44 (0)1737 789 245 mobile: +44 (0)7866 724 224 ===================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 13:58:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from corey.datafast.net.au (corey.datafast.net.au [203.123.67.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F9F837B710 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 13:58:21 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 25302 invoked by uid 1000); 17 Jan 2001 22:02:20 -0000 From: "Corey Ralph" Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:02:20 +1100 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Access statistics for apache Message-ID: <20010118090220.B30093@corey.datafast.net.au> References: <3A660CD8.7090808@digitaldaemon.com> <20010117222440.A75140@tigerdyr.lyngbol.dk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010117222440.A75140@tigerdyr.lyngbol.dk>; from michael@lyngbol.dk on Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 10:24:40PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'll second that. The users love it. It is very comprehensive and the graphs make it easy to understand. I wrote a short perl script to find the CustomLog lines in the sections of httpd.conf, and run webalizer over all the sites on the server. Cheers Corey On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 10:24:40PM +0100, Michael Lyngbøl wrote: > On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 04:21:28PM -0500, Jan Knepper wrote: > > > > Does any of you know about a package that does access statistics for apache? > > Looking through the apache log files I would figure there is something > > around,... > > http://www.mrunix.net/webalizer/ does a pretty good job > > /Michael > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 14:13: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dconlon.donhost.co.uk (dconlon.demon.co.uk [193.237.55.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 960F637B401 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:12:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from doncasterser1 [127.0.0.1] by dconlon.donhost.co.uk [193.237.55.196] with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.5.2.R) for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:18:46 +0000 From: "Daniel Conlon" To: Subject: Access statistics for apache Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:18:46 -0000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20010118090220.B30093@corey.datafast.net.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Importance: Normal X-MDRemoteIP: 127.0.0.1 X-Return-Path: daniel@donhost.co.uk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org With reference to the subject of apache logs: I am currently putting a CustomLog directive and also an ErrorLog directive in each VirtualHost. How many virtual hosts can you have on a FBSD box with this configuration before you begin to encounter file descriptor problems? Is it better to pipe all the logging to some process at the other end which sorts them all out and puts them in the correct place? Also, what solutions are available to rotate/compress/trim apache log files. I currently just run a script on the 1st of every month which deletes the existing logs and starts new ones. It would be nice to be able to trim the log files so that there is always the last 30 days available in them. Better still, process the logs on the 1st of every month, save the actual produced statistics and delete the log. Then be able to access the pre-processed, saved statistics from previous months, enabling customers to view statistics from several years back without consuming excessive disk space and processor time to produce the reports. Thanks, Daniel Conlon Donhost ########################## Tel: +44 (0)800 956 7642 Mob: +44 (0)7939 268 799 Fax: +44 (0)8707 41 51 07 http://www.donhost.co.uk ########################## -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Corey Ralph Sent: 17 January 2001 22:02 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Access statistics for apache I'll second that. The users love it. It is very comprehensive and the graphs make it easy to understand. I wrote a short perl script to find the CustomLog lines in the sections of httpd.conf, and run webalizer over all the sites on the server. Cheers Corey On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 10:24:40PM +0100, Michael Lyngbøl wrote: > On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 04:21:28PM -0500, Jan Knepper wrote: > > > > Does any of you know about a package that does access statistics for apache? > > Looking through the apache log files I would figure there is something > > around,... > > http://www.mrunix.net/webalizer/ does a pretty good job > > /Michael > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 14:16:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from andcoke.aeon.networktel.net (andcoke.aeon.networktel.net [216.83.238.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88E3D37B402 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 14:16:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (phill@localhost) by andcoke.aeon.networktel.net (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0HMHa529068; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:17:38 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from phill@sysctl.net) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:17:36 -0600 (CST) From: Phillip Salzman X-Sender: phill@andcoke.aeon.networktel.net To: Jan Knepper Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Access statistics for apache In-Reply-To: <3A660CD8.7090808@digitaldaemon.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You may also wish to look at Summary. It provides a lot of information. Http://www.summary.net/ --- Phillip Salzman phill@FreeBSD.Org http://www.sysctl.net/ |<- My Website. Are you scared yet? -------------------------------------------------------------- "If A equals success, then the formula is A = X + Y + Z. X is work. Y is play. Z is keep your mouth shut." -- Albert Einstein -------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Jan Knepper wrote: > Hii, > > Does any of you know about a package that does access statistics for apache? > Looking through the apache log files I would figure there is something > around,... > > Jan > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 15:34: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from krell.webweaver.net (krell.webweaver.net [64.124.90.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0CA437B400 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:33:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from xwin.nmhtech.com (xwin.daemontech.net [208.138.46.161]) by krell.webweaver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACAC020F0C; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:33:48 -0800 (PST) Content-Length: 1206 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3A660CD8.7090808@digitaldaemon.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:33:48 -0800 (PST) From: Nicole To: Jan Knepper Subject: RE: Access statistics for apache Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 17-Jan-01 Jan Knepper wrote: > Hii, > > Does any of you know about a package that does access statistics for apache? > Looking through the apache log files I would figure there is something > around,... > > Jan > > > So far I personaly like http-analizer (also in the ports collectiom) The reason I like it is it is fairly detailed, fast and after doing a full months of logs it saves the stats in a history file so you don't have to analize those logs again. I really wish I could find a log processor like it, were it will save the history daily so each day I only have to feed it that days logs. Nicole nicole@unixgirl.com |\ __ /| (`\ http://www.unixgirl.com/ webmistress@dangermouse.org | o_o |__ ) ) http://www.dangermouse.org/ nicole@deviantimages.com // \\ http://www.deviantimages.com/ ---------------------------(((---(((---------------------------------------- -- Powered by Coka-Cola and FreeBSD -- -- I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble -- -- Back Up My Hard Drive? I Can't Find The Reverse Switch! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 15:37:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from krell.webweaver.net (krell.webweaver.net [64.124.90.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 005E837B400 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:37:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from xwin.nmhtech.com (xwin.daemontech.net [208.138.46.161]) by krell.webweaver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7C3820F04; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:37:19 -0800 (PST) Content-Length: 1761 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:37:19 -0800 (PST) From: Nicole To: Phillip Salzman Subject: Re: Access statistics for apache Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, Jan Knepper Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 17-Jan-01 Phillip Salzman wrote: > You may also wish to look at Summary. It provides > a lot of information. Http://www.summary.net/ > Summary looks interesting. Which version of it works best on BSD. Seems so odd they have a Linux and a Mac OsX Version but not a BSD version. Nicole > --- > Phillip Salzman > phill@FreeBSD.Org > http://www.sysctl.net/ |<- My Website. Are you scared yet? > -------------------------------------------------------------- > "If A equals success, then the formula is A = X + Y + Z. X is work. Y > is play. Z is keep your mouth shut." > -- Albert Einstein > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Jan Knepper wrote: > >> Hii, >> >> Does any of you know about a package that does access statistics for apache? >> Looking through the apache log files I would figure there is something >> around,... >> >> Jan >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >> > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message nicole@unixgirl.com |\ __ /| (`\ http://www.unixgirl.com/ webmistress@dangermouse.org | o_o |__ ) ) http://www.dangermouse.org/ nicole@deviantimages.com // \\ http://www.deviantimages.com/ ---------------------------(((---(((---------------------------------------- -- Powered by Coka-Cola and FreeBSD -- -- I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble -- -- Back Up My Hard Drive? I Can't Find The Reverse Switch! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 15:41:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from andcoke.aeon.networktel.net (andcoke.aeon.networktel.net [216.83.238.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51F8837B400 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 15:41:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (phill@localhost) by andcoke.aeon.networktel.net (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0HNgdx29402; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:42:39 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from phill@sysctl.net) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:42:38 -0600 (CST) From: Phillip Salzman X-Sender: phill@andcoke.aeon.networktel.net To: Nicole Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, Jan Knepper Subject: Re: Access statistics for apache In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The Linux version runs great. Although the only thing I don't like about it is the fact it runs as a daemon. But the information it provides is pretty robust. --- Phillip Salzman phill@FreeBSD.Org http://www.sysctl.net/ |<- My Website. Are you scared yet? -------------------------------------------------------------- "If A equals success, then the formula is A = X + Y + Z. X is work. Y is play. Z is keep your mouth shut." -- Albert Einstein -------------------------------------------------------------- On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Nicole wrote: > > On 17-Jan-01 Phillip Salzman wrote: > > You may also wish to look at Summary. It provides > > a lot of information. Http://www.summary.net/ > > > > Summary looks interesting. Which version of it works best on BSD. > Seems so odd they have a Linux and a Mac OsX Version but not a BSD version. > > > Nicole > > > > > --- > > Phillip Salzman > > phill@FreeBSD.Org > > http://www.sysctl.net/ |<- My Website. Are you scared yet? > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > "If A equals success, then the formula is A = X + Y + Z. X is work. Y > > is play. Z is keep your mouth shut." > > -- Albert Einstein > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Jan Knepper wrote: > > > >> Hii, > >> > >> Does any of you know about a package that does access statistics for apache? > >> Looking through the apache log files I would figure there is something > >> around,... > >> > >> Jan > >> > >> > >> > >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > nicole@unixgirl.com |\ __ /| (`\ http://www.unixgirl.com/ > webmistress@dangermouse.org | o_o |__ ) ) http://www.dangermouse.org/ > nicole@deviantimages.com // \\ http://www.deviantimages.com/ > > ---------------------------(((---(((---------------------------------------- > > -- Powered by Coka-Cola and FreeBSD -- > -- I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble -- > -- Back Up My Hard Drive? I Can't Find The Reverse Switch! -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 16: 1: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from merlin.tacni.net (unknown [216.178.136.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5E5F237B400 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:00:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 34074 invoked from network); 18 Jan 2001 00:00:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO arthur.tacni.net) (204.155.159.36) by 216.178.136.168 with SMTP; 18 Jan 2001 00:00:41 -0000 Received: (qmail 29899 invoked by uid 1000); 18 Jan 2001 00:00:13 -0000 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:00:13 -0600 From: Erich Zigler To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Wholesale POP's. Message-ID: <20010117180013.B29813@superhero.org> Mail-Followup-To: Erich Zigler , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Eric-Conspiracy: There is no conspiracy. X-Shane: Hi Shane! Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was wondering if anyone out there is capable of selling wholesale POP's in New Mexico. We have our own radius server, just need POP's. Any help would be greatly appreciated. -- Erich Zigler To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 16: 2:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.csocs.com (shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 050E737B402 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:02:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from csocs.com (Bdialup77.chyn.uswest.net [209.181.14.236]) by shell.csocs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA27543; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:00:21 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from admin@csocs.com) Message-ID: <3A6631D8.195EA8F4@csocs.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:59:20 -0700 From: J & C Frazier Organization: CSOCS Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Edwin Culp Cc: "Forrest W. Christian" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI References: <3A654864.73B8418@csocs.com> <979740615.3a65a7c752e1e@Mail.MexComUSA.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I tried what you said. Didn't seem to help any: telnet networksolutions.com 25 Trying 216.168.224.69... telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Operation timed out I called them again today. They wouldn't try to ping my box from their location (good ol helpful NSI), so I couldn' get anyother information why I can't seem to get or send mail to NSI. Edwin Culp wrote: > I see that I got to this problem a little late so hopefully it is already solved > but if not, I would try adding one of the following ip's at the top of my > /etc/resolv.conf file and try the telnet again and do the cut and paste or flush > my mail queue. > > NS1.NETSOL.com internet address = 216.168.224.200 > NS3.NETSOL.com internet address = 216.168.224.201 > NS2.NETSOL.com internet address = 198.17.208.71 > > in resolv.conf > > nameserver 216.168.224.200 > > ed > > Quoting J & C Frazier : > > > The box I connected from to www.networksolutions.com to create the form > > has no problem connecting to the mail servers for NSI. The box in question > > however, that does control the e-mail, could not. It timed out. This is > > strange, > > because the box has no problem getting or sending anyother mail. If this > > isn't > > a dns/sendmail problem, and my IPs seem to be functioning fine elsewhere on > > the Internet.....then I'm not quite sure where to go next. Thanks for your > > response and help. > > > > J.C. Frazier > > > > "Forrest W. Christian" wrote: > > > > > You have an IP connectivity problem. Period. > > > > > > This is not DNS/Sendmail related, or at least it doesn't look like it. > > > > > > Can you telnet to their mail servers, port 25? > > > > > > On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, J & C Frazier wrote: > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:53:21 -0700 > > > > From: J & C Frazier > > > > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > > > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > > > > > > > And it escalates..... > > > > > > > > Tried to send NSI a form (that I had them send to an "off box" > > address). > > > > It seems not only do I not "get" their mail, but I can't "send" to them > > > > either. > > > > Gotta love it.....I'm out of ideas and they're no help. Numerous tries > > now > > > > > > > > and the following is what I get back: > > > > > > > > Subject: Warning: could not send message for past 4 hours > > > > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:13:57 -0700 (MST) > > > > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem > > > > To: > > > > > > > > ********************************************** > > > > ** THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY ** > > > > ** YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE ** > > > > ********************************************** > > > > > > > > The original message was received at Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:12:11 -0700 > > > > (MST) from Bdialup74.chyn.uswest.net [209.181.14.233] > > > > > > > > ----- The following addresses had transient non-fatal errors ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > > > > ... Deferred: Operation timed out with > > > > networksolutions.com. > > > > Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours > > > > Will keep trying until message is 5 days old > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com > > > Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > -- > EnContacto.Net - InternetSalon.Org - CafeMania.Net > -- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 16: 9:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from wolf.ncia.net (wolf.ncia.net [207.140.8.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8B9537B698 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:09:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rjtaylor@localhost) by wolf.ncia.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA02275; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 19:09:14 -0500 Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 19:09:14 -0500 (EST) From: "Ryan J. Taylor" To: Nicole Cc: Subject: RE: Access statistics for apache In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Nicole, > I really wish I could find a log processor like it, were it will save the > history daily so each day I only have to feed it that days logs. Webalizer does exactly that. Our web servers run stats for each domain hosted. Each one has its own webalizer.conf and we have a cron job that chews up the logs each night. Stats are kept for a whole year before the oldest month is replaced by this year's month of the same name. Our customers love it! Regards, RJ --------------------- Ryan J. Taylor Systems/Network Administrator NCIA rj@ncia.net On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Nicole wrote: > > On 17-Jan-01 Jan Knepper wrote: > > Hii, > > > > Does any of you know about a package that does access statistics for apache? > > Looking through the apache log files I would figure there is something > > around,... > > > > Jan > > > > > > > > > So far I personaly like http-analizer (also in the ports collectiom) > The reason I like it is it is fairly detailed, fast and after doing a full > months of logs it saves the stats in a history file so you don't have to > analize those logs again. > > I really wish I could find a log processor like it, were it will save the > history daily so each day I only have to feed it that days logs. > > > Nicole > > > > nicole@unixgirl.com |\ __ /| (`\ http://www.unixgirl.com/ > webmistress@dangermouse.org | o_o |__ ) ) http://www.dangermouse.org/ > nicole@deviantimages.com // \\ http://www.deviantimages.com/ > > ---------------------------(((---(((---------------------------------------- > > -- Powered by Coka-Cola and FreeBSD -- > -- I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble -- > -- Back Up My Hard Drive? I Can't Find The Reverse Switch! -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 16:17:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from corey.datafast.net.au (corey.datafast.net.au [203.123.67.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B627E37B404 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:17:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 503 invoked by uid 1000); 18 Jan 2001 00:20:18 -0000 From: "Corey Ralph" Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:20:18 +1100 To: Daniel Conlon Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Access statistics for apache Message-ID: <20010118112018.A480@corey.datafast.net.au> References: <20010118090220.B30093@corey.datafast.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from daniel@donhost.co.uk on Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 10:18:46PM -0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Daniel, I just rotate them monthly. Webalizer keeps a history so it knows what parts have already been analysed and skips them. I have it running in a cron job every 5 minutes. The stats pages are broken into one per month, see the webalizer website for a demo. I once tried to output all sites to one access log then grep it for the domain name to sort it out. Only problem was that it misses the first hit to the site for the session as it the hit to / doesn't seem to be recorded with the full url. That first hit is the most important to log because the referrer is where the search keywords can be found. About the file descriptor limit, I haven't had any problems with it. I have just over 300 sites on my main server. Cheers, Corey On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 10:18:46PM -0000, Daniel Conlon wrote: > With reference to the subject of apache logs: > > I am currently putting a CustomLog directive and also an ErrorLog directive > in each VirtualHost. How many virtual hosts can you have on a FBSD box with > this configuration before you begin to encounter file descriptor problems? > Is it better to pipe all the logging to some process at the other end which > sorts them all out and puts them in the correct place? > > Also, what solutions are available to rotate/compress/trim apache log files. > I currently just run a script on the 1st of every month which deletes the > existing logs and starts new ones. It would be nice to be able to trim the > log files so that there is always the last 30 days available in them. Better > still, process the logs on the 1st of every month, save the actual produced > statistics and delete the log. Then be able to access the pre-processed, > saved statistics from previous months, enabling customers to view statistics > from several years back without consuming excessive disk space and processor > time to produce the reports. > > Thanks, > > Daniel Conlon > Donhost > > ########################## > Tel: +44 (0)800 956 7642 > Mob: +44 (0)7939 268 799 > Fax: +44 (0)8707 41 51 07 > http://www.donhost.co.uk > ########################## > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Corey Ralph > Sent: 17 January 2001 22:02 > To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Access statistics for apache > > > I'll second that. The users love it. It is very comprehensive and the > graphs > make it easy to understand. > > I wrote a short perl script to find the CustomLog lines in the > sections of httpd.conf, and run webalizer over all the sites on the server. > > Cheers > Corey > > On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 10:24:40PM +0100, Michael Lyngbøl wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 04:21:28PM -0500, Jan Knepper wrote: > > > > > > Does any of you know about a package that does access statistics for > apache? > > > Looking through the apache log files I would figure there is something > > > around,... > > > > http://www.mrunix.net/webalizer/ does a pretty good job > > > > /Michael > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 16:21: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C12037B404 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:20:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA23579; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:21:22 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:21:22 -0700 (MST) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: J & C Frazier Cc: Edwin Culp , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI In-Reply-To: <3A6631D8.195EA8F4@csocs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If you don't have TCP connectivity between you and them, there is definately some sort of routing or filtering issue between point a and b. Would you be kind enough to (perhaps privately) send me the IP address of the machine in question so I can see what it looks like routing-wise from here (perhaps I can see something). On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, J & C Frazier wrote: > Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:59:20 -0700 > From: J & C Frazier > To: Edwin Culp > Cc: Forrest W. Christian , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > I tried what you said. Didn't seem to help any: > telnet networksolutions.com 25 > Trying 216.168.224.69... > telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Operation timed out > I called them again today. They wouldn't try to ping my box > from their location (good ol helpful NSI), so I couldn' get > anyother information why I can't seem to get or send mail to > NSI. > > Edwin Culp wrote: > > > I see that I got to this problem a little late so hopefully it is already solved > > but if not, I would try adding one of the following ip's at the top of my > > /etc/resolv.conf file and try the telnet again and do the cut and paste or flush > > my mail queue. > > > > NS1.NETSOL.com internet address = 216.168.224.200 > > NS3.NETSOL.com internet address = 216.168.224.201 > > NS2.NETSOL.com internet address = 198.17.208.71 > > > > in resolv.conf > > > > nameserver 216.168.224.200 > > > > ed > > > > Quoting J & C Frazier : > > > > > The box I connected from to www.networksolutions.com to create the form > > > has no problem connecting to the mail servers for NSI. The box in question > > > however, that does control the e-mail, could not. It timed out. This is > > > strange, > > > because the box has no problem getting or sending anyother mail. If this > > > isn't > > > a dns/sendmail problem, and my IPs seem to be functioning fine elsewhere on > > > the Internet.....then I'm not quite sure where to go next. Thanks for your > > > response and help. > > > > > > J.C. Frazier > > > > > > "Forrest W. Christian" wrote: > > > > > > > You have an IP connectivity problem. Period. > > > > > > > > This is not DNS/Sendmail related, or at least it doesn't look like it. > > > > > > > > Can you telnet to their mail servers, port 25? > > > > > > > > On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, J & C Frazier wrote: > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:53:21 -0700 > > > > > From: J & C Frazier > > > > > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > > > > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > > > > > > > > > And it escalates..... > > > > > > > > > > Tried to send NSI a form (that I had them send to an "off box" > > > address). > > > > > It seems not only do I not "get" their mail, but I can't "send" to them > > > > > either. > > > > > Gotta love it.....I'm out of ideas and they're no help. Numerous tries > > > now > > > > > > > > > > and the following is what I get back: > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Warning: could not send message for past 4 hours > > > > > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:13:57 -0700 (MST) > > > > > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem > > > > > To: > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************** > > > > > ** THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY ** > > > > > ** YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE ** > > > > > ********************************************** > > > > > > > > > > The original message was received at Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:12:11 -0700 > > > > > (MST) from Bdialup74.chyn.uswest.net [209.181.14.233] > > > > > > > > > > ----- The following addresses had transient non-fatal errors ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > > > > > ... Deferred: Operation timed out with > > > > > networksolutions.com. > > > > > Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours > > > > > Will keep trying until message is 5 days old > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com > > > > Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > -- > > EnContacto.Net - InternetSalon.Org - CafeMania.Net > > -- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 16:33:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.csocs.com (shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2A0E37B69D for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:33:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from csocs.com (Bdialup77.chyn.uswest.net [209.181.14.236]) by shell.csocs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA27720; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:31:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from admin@csocs.com) Message-ID: <3A663920.A79412FC@csocs.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:30:24 -0700 From: J & C Frazier Organization: CSOCS Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Forrest W. Christian" Cc: Edwin Culp , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The IP is 207.49.21.231 (csocs.com). Also note the following: # nslookup Default Server: localhost.csocs.com Address: 127.0.0.1 > networksolutions.com Server: localhost.csocs.com Address: 127.0.0.1 Non-authoritative answer: Name: networksolutions.com Address: 216.168.224.69 > ns1.netsol.com Server: localhost.csocs.com Address: 127.0.0.1 Non-authoritative answer: Name: ns1.netsol.com Address: 216.168.224.200 > server ns1.netsol.com Default Server: ns1.netsol.com Address: 216.168.224.200 > csocs.com Server: ns1.netsol.com Address: 216.168.224.200 *** Request to ns1.netsol.com timed-out > networksolutions.com Server: ns1.netsol.com Address: 216.168.224.200 *** Request to ns1.netsol.com timed-out This tells me there's evidently some sort of dns issue I guess. J.C. Frazier "Forrest W. Christian" wrote: > If you don't have TCP connectivity between you and them, there is > definately some sort of routing or filtering issue between point a and b. > > Would you be kind enough to (perhaps privately) send me the IP address of > the machine in question so I can see what it looks like routing-wise from > here (perhaps I can see something). To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 16:41:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.csocs.com (shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C2E937B69F for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:41:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from csocs.com (Bdialup77.chyn.uswest.net [209.181.14.236]) by shell.csocs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA27765; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:39:00 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from admin@csocs.com) Message-ID: <3A663AE7.E1F2AFA5@csocs.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:37:59 -0700 From: J & C Frazier Organization: CSOCS Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Forrest W. Christian" , Edwin Culp , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI References: <3A663920.A79412FC@csocs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Interesting, it also appears ns.csocs.com is giving non-authoritive responces on zones and domains it should be controlling. What a mess. J & C Frazier wrote: > The IP is 207.49.21.231 (csocs.com). Also note the following: > > # nslookup > Default Server: localhost.csocs.com > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > > networksolutions.com > Server: localhost.csocs.com > Address: 127.0.0.1 > Non-authoritative answer: > Name: networksolutions.com > Address: 216.168.224.69 > > > ns1.netsol.com > Server: localhost.csocs.com > Address: 127.0.0.1 > Non-authoritative answer: > Name: ns1.netsol.com > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > server ns1.netsol.com > Default Server: ns1.netsol.com > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > csocs.com > Server: ns1.netsol.com > Address: 216.168.224.200 > *** Request to ns1.netsol.com timed-out > > > networksolutions.com > Server: ns1.netsol.com > Address: 216.168.224.200 > *** Request to ns1.netsol.com timed-out > > This tells me there's evidently some sort of dns issue I guess. > > J.C. Frazier > > "Forrest W. Christian" wrote: > > > If you don't have TCP connectivity between you and them, there is > > definately some sort of routing or filtering issue between point a and b. > > > > Would you be kind enough to (perhaps privately) send me the IP address of > > the machine in question so I can see what it looks like routing-wise from > > here (perhaps I can see something). > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 16:48:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from aspenworks.com (aspenworks.com [192.94.236.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C19A37B401 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:48:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from d7k (matrix.aspenworks.com [216.38.199.82]) by aspenworks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA49950; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:47:25 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from alex@aspenworks.com) Message-ID: <00dc01c080e8$166f6120$1700a8c0@d7k> From: "alex huppenthal" To: "J & C Frazier" , "Forrest W. Christian" , "Edwin Culp" , References: <3A663920.A79412FC@csocs.com> <3A663AE7.E1F2AFA5@csocs.com> Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:46:21 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org you are welcome to use our dlint window to debug your DNS http://aspenworks.com/development/dns2.php dlint is a nice utility, we've just put a php wrapper around it for web-based use. Cheers, -Alex ----- Original Message ----- From: "J & C Frazier" To: "Forrest W. Christian" ; "Edwin Culp" ; Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 5:37 PM Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > Interesting, it also appears ns.csocs.com is giving non-authoritive > responces on zones and domains it should be controlling. What > a mess. > > J & C Frazier wrote: > > > The IP is 207.49.21.231 (csocs.com). Also note the following: > > > > # nslookup > > Default Server: localhost.csocs.com > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > > > > networksolutions.com > > Server: localhost.csocs.com > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > Non-authoritative answer: > > Name: networksolutions.com > > Address: 216.168.224.69 > > > > > ns1.netsol.com > > Server: localhost.csocs.com > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > Non-authoritative answer: > > Name: ns1.netsol.com > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > server ns1.netsol.com > > Default Server: ns1.netsol.com > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > csocs.com > > Server: ns1.netsol.com > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > *** Request to ns1.netsol.com timed-out > > > > > networksolutions.com > > Server: ns1.netsol.com > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > *** Request to ns1.netsol.com timed-out > > > > This tells me there's evidently some sort of dns issue I guess. > > > > J.C. Frazier > > > > "Forrest W. Christian" wrote: > > > > > If you don't have TCP connectivity between you and them, there is > > > definately some sort of routing or filtering issue between point a and b. > > > > > > Would you be kind enough to (perhaps privately) send me the IP address of > > > the machine in question so I can see what it looks like routing-wise from > > > here (perhaps I can see something). > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 16:48:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 053F137B699 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:48:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA23749; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:48:55 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:48:55 -0700 (MST) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: J & C Frazier Cc: Edwin Culp , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI In-Reply-To: <3A663920.A79412FC@csocs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Looks like your upstream is Cable and Wireless and this address is from their block (a /14 to be specific). I can get to your port fine, but again, I'm directly connected to cable and wireless as one of our upstreams. The symptoms below are consistent with some sort of routing issue. The DNS timeouts mean the DNS queries are not getting to their destination, which is consistent with your telnet timing out. Have you tried a traceroute to ns1.netsol.com? Where does it die? On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, J & C Frazier wrote: > Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:30:24 -0700 > From: J & C Frazier > To: Forrest W. Christian > Cc: Edwin Culp , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > The IP is 207.49.21.231 (csocs.com). Also note the following: > > # nslookup > Default Server: localhost.csocs.com > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > > networksolutions.com > Server: localhost.csocs.com > Address: 127.0.0.1 > Non-authoritative answer: > Name: networksolutions.com > Address: 216.168.224.69 > > > ns1.netsol.com > Server: localhost.csocs.com > Address: 127.0.0.1 > Non-authoritative answer: > Name: ns1.netsol.com > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > server ns1.netsol.com > Default Server: ns1.netsol.com > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > csocs.com > Server: ns1.netsol.com > Address: 216.168.224.200 > *** Request to ns1.netsol.com timed-out > > > networksolutions.com > Server: ns1.netsol.com > Address: 216.168.224.200 > *** Request to ns1.netsol.com timed-out > > This tells me there's evidently some sort of dns issue I guess. > > J.C. Frazier > > > "Forrest W. Christian" wrote: > > > If you don't have TCP connectivity between you and them, there is > > definately some sort of routing or filtering issue between point a and b. > > > > Would you be kind enough to (perhaps privately) send me the IP address of > > the machine in question so I can see what it looks like routing-wise from > > here (perhaps I can see something). > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 16:54: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.csocs.com (shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7241037B699 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 16:53:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from csocs.com (Bdialup77.chyn.uswest.net [209.181.14.236]) by shell.csocs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA27847; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:51:26 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from admin@csocs.com) Message-ID: <3A663DD1.ADD8C36D@csocs.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:50:25 -0700 From: J & C Frazier Organization: CSOCS Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Forrest W. Christian" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org # traceroute ns1.netsol.com traceroute to ns1.netsol.com (216.168.224.200), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 cw-gateway20.colocateusa.net (207.49.20.1) 2.167 ms 3.106 ms 3.305 ms 2 bar2-serial4-0-0-12-0.Washingtondck.cw.net (206.24.234.65) 12.522 ms 4.748 ms 4.979 ms 3 acr2-loopback.Washingtondck.cw.net (206.24.226.62) 5.420 ms 5.669 ms 8.822 ms 4 acr1-loopback.Restonrst.cw.net (206.24.178.61) 19.793 ms 25.926 ms 9.228 ms 5 bar1-loopback.Restonrst.cw.net (206.24.178.3) 13.981 ms 18.486 ms 10.529 ms 6 * * * "Forrest W. Christian" wrote: > Looks like your upstream is Cable and Wireless and this address is > from their block (a /14 to be specific). I can get to your port > fine, but again, I'm directly connected to cable and wireless as one of > our upstreams. > > The symptoms below are consistent with some sort of routing issue. The > DNS timeouts mean the DNS queries are not getting to their destination, > which is consistent with your telnet timing out. > > Have you tried a traceroute to ns1.netsol.com? Where does it die? > > On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, J & C Frazier wrote: > > > Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:30:24 -0700 > > From: J & C Frazier > > To: Forrest W. Christian > > Cc: Edwin Culp , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > > > The IP is 207.49.21.231 (csocs.com). Also note the following: > > > > # nslookup > > Default Server: localhost.csocs.com > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > > > > networksolutions.com > > Server: localhost.csocs.com > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > Non-authoritative answer: > > Name: networksolutions.com > > Address: 216.168.224.69 > > > > > ns1.netsol.com > > Server: localhost.csocs.com > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > Non-authoritative answer: > > Name: ns1.netsol.com > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > server ns1.netsol.com > > Default Server: ns1.netsol.com > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > csocs.com > > Server: ns1.netsol.com > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > *** Request to ns1.netsol.com timed-out > > > > > networksolutions.com > > Server: ns1.netsol.com > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > *** Request to ns1.netsol.com timed-out > > > > This tells me there's evidently some sort of dns issue I guess. > > > > J.C. Frazier > > > > > > "Forrest W. Christian" wrote: > > > > > If you don't have TCP connectivity between you and them, there is > > > definately some sort of routing or filtering issue between point a and b. > > > > > > Would you be kind enough to (perhaps privately) send me the IP address of > > > the machine in question so I can see what it looks like routing-wise from > > > here (perhaps I can see something). > > > > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com > Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 17: 1:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6738A37B401 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:01:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA23873; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:01:53 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:01:53 -0700 (MST) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: J & C Frazier Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI In-Reply-To: <3A663DD1.ADD8C36D@csocs.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You need to get in touch with CAble and wireless and/or internic and have them troubleshoot this. I can traceroute all the way there: Type escape sequence to abort. Tracing the route to ns1.netsol.com (216.168.224.200) 1 bordercore3-serial5-0-12.Denver.cw.net (166.48.100.49) [AS 3561] 44 msec 36 msec 28 msec 2 acr2.Denverden.cw.net (208.172.162.62) [AS 3561] 32 msec 60 msec 40 msec 3 acr1-loopback.Restonrst.cw.net (206.24.178.61) [AS 3561] 80 msec 68 msec 80 msec 4 bar1-loopback.Restonrst.cw.net (206.24.178.3) [AS 3561] 136 msec 176 msec 144 msec 5 network-solutions-inc.Restonrst.cw.net (206.24.181.134) [AS 3561] 136 msec 164 msec 168 msec 6 * 216.168.224.4 [AS 6245] 116 msec 116 msec 7 ns1.netsol.com (216.168.224.200) [AS 6245] 124 msec * 80 msec It appears there is some sort of filter or routing problem on either hop 4 or 5 above (your hop 5 or 6) in relation to your IP address. I would suspect a corrupted routing entry in network solutions router (hop 5 above) for your route, OR a filter in either 4 or 5 above. If you can get a hold of network solution's network engineer, have them check the route on their router for you. On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, J & C Frazier wrote: > Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:50:25 -0700 > From: J & C Frazier > To: Forrest W. Christian > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > # traceroute ns1.netsol.com > traceroute to ns1.netsol.com (216.168.224.200), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets > 1 cw-gateway20.colocateusa.net (207.49.20.1) 2.167 ms 3.106 ms 3.305 ms > 2 bar2-serial4-0-0-12-0.Washingtondck.cw.net (206.24.234.65) 12.522 ms 4.748 > ms 4.979 ms > 3 acr2-loopback.Washingtondck.cw.net (206.24.226.62) 5.420 ms 5.669 ms 8.822 > ms > 4 acr1-loopback.Restonrst.cw.net (206.24.178.61) 19.793 ms 25.926 ms 9.228 > ms > 5 bar1-loopback.Restonrst.cw.net (206.24.178.3) 13.981 ms 18.486 ms 10.529 > ms > 6 * * * > > "Forrest W. Christian" wrote: > > > Looks like your upstream is Cable and Wireless and this address is > > from their block (a /14 to be specific). I can get to your port > > fine, but again, I'm directly connected to cable and wireless as one of > > our upstreams. > > > > The symptoms below are consistent with some sort of routing issue. The > > DNS timeouts mean the DNS queries are not getting to their destination, > > which is consistent with your telnet timing out. > > > > Have you tried a traceroute to ns1.netsol.com? Where does it die? > > > > On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, J & C Frazier wrote: > > > > > Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:30:24 -0700 > > > From: J & C Frazier > > > To: Forrest W. Christian > > > Cc: Edwin Culp , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > > > > > The IP is 207.49.21.231 (csocs.com). Also note the following: > > > > > > # nslookup > > > Default Server: localhost.csocs.com > > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > > > > > > networksolutions.com > > > Server: localhost.csocs.com > > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > > Non-authoritative answer: > > > Name: networksolutions.com > > > Address: 216.168.224.69 > > > > > > > ns1.netsol.com > > > Server: localhost.csocs.com > > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > > Non-authoritative answer: > > > Name: ns1.netsol.com > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > > > server ns1.netsol.com > > > Default Server: ns1.netsol.com > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > > > csocs.com > > > Server: ns1.netsol.com > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > *** Request to ns1.netsol.com timed-out > > > > > > > networksolutions.com > > > Server: ns1.netsol.com > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > *** Request to ns1.netsol.com timed-out > > > > > > This tells me there's evidently some sort of dns issue I guess. > > > > > > J.C. Frazier > > > > > > > > > "Forrest W. Christian" wrote: > > > > > > > If you don't have TCP connectivity between you and them, there is > > > > definately some sort of routing or filtering issue between point a and b. > > > > > > > > Would you be kind enough to (perhaps privately) send me the IP address of > > > > the machine in question so I can see what it looks like routing-wise from > > > > here (perhaps I can see something). > > > > > > > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com > > Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 17:32: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.csocs.com (shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 109E637B400 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:31:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from csocs.com (Bdialup77.chyn.uswest.net [209.181.14.236]) by shell.csocs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA28020; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:29:27 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from admin@csocs.com) Message-ID: <3A6646B5.B1183B80@csocs.com> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 18:28:21 -0700 From: J & C Frazier Organization: CSOCS Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Forrest W. Christian" , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org NSI was no help at all. They wouldn't put forth any effort in correcting the problem. When I explained the problem, they blamed Cable and Wireless and told me to call them. I couldn't get them to do a ping or traceroute for the life of me. I called the Cable and Wireless INOC and they gave me an e-mail (trouble@cw.net) to send the information to. I did that...I guess there's nothing to do now but wait. Very discouraging. J.C. Frazier "Forrest W. Christian" wrote: > You need to get in touch with CAble and wireless and/or internic and have > them troubleshoot this. I can traceroute all the way there: > > Type escape sequence to abort. > Tracing the route to ns1.netsol.com (216.168.224.200) > > 1 bordercore3-serial5-0-12.Denver.cw.net (166.48.100.49) [AS 3561] 44 > msec 36 msec 28 msec > 2 acr2.Denverden.cw.net (208.172.162.62) [AS 3561] 32 msec 60 msec 40 > msec > 3 acr1-loopback.Restonrst.cw.net (206.24.178.61) [AS 3561] 80 msec 68 > msec 80 msec > 4 bar1-loopback.Restonrst.cw.net (206.24.178.3) [AS 3561] 136 msec 176 > msec 144 msec > 5 network-solutions-inc.Restonrst.cw.net (206.24.181.134) [AS 3561] 136 > msec 164 msec 168 msec > 6 * 216.168.224.4 [AS 6245] 116 msec 116 msec > 7 ns1.netsol.com (216.168.224.200) [AS 6245] 124 msec * 80 msec > > It appears there is some sort of filter or routing problem on either hop 4 > or 5 above (your hop 5 or 6) in relation to your IP address. I would > suspect a corrupted routing entry in network solutions router (hop 5 > above) for your route, OR a filter in either 4 or 5 above. > > If you can get a hold of network solution's network engineer, have them > check the route on their router for you. > > On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, J & C Frazier wrote: > > > Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:50:25 -0700 > > From: J & C Frazier > > To: Forrest W. Christian > > Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > > > # traceroute ns1.netsol.com > > traceroute to ns1.netsol.com (216.168.224.200), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets > > 1 cw-gateway20.colocateusa.net (207.49.20.1) 2.167 ms 3.106 ms 3.305 ms > > 2 bar2-serial4-0-0-12-0.Washingtondck.cw.net (206.24.234.65) 12.522 ms 4.748 > > ms 4.979 ms > > 3 acr2-loopback.Washingtondck.cw.net (206.24.226.62) 5.420 ms 5.669 ms 8.822 > > ms > > 4 acr1-loopback.Restonrst.cw.net (206.24.178.61) 19.793 ms 25.926 ms 9.228 > > ms > > 5 bar1-loopback.Restonrst.cw.net (206.24.178.3) 13.981 ms 18.486 ms 10.529 > > ms > > 6 * * * > > > > "Forrest W. Christian" wrote: > > > > > Looks like your upstream is Cable and Wireless and this address is > > > from their block (a /14 to be specific). I can get to your port > > > fine, but again, I'm directly connected to cable and wireless as one of > > > our upstreams. > > > > > > The symptoms below are consistent with some sort of routing issue. The > > > DNS timeouts mean the DNS queries are not getting to their destination, > > > which is consistent with your telnet timing out. > > > > > > Have you tried a traceroute to ns1.netsol.com? Where does it die? > > > > > > On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, J & C Frazier wrote: > > > > > > > Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 17:30:24 -0700 > > > > From: J & C Frazier > > > > To: Forrest W. Christian > > > > Cc: Edwin Culp , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > > > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > > > > > > > The IP is 207.49.21.231 (csocs.com). Also note the following: > > > > > > > > # nslookup > > > > Default Server: localhost.csocs.com > > > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > > > > > > > > networksolutions.com > > > > Server: localhost.csocs.com > > > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > > > Non-authoritative answer: > > > > Name: networksolutions.com > > > > Address: 216.168.224.69 > > > > > > > > > ns1.netsol.com > > > > Server: localhost.csocs.com > > > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > > > Non-authoritative answer: > > > > Name: ns1.netsol.com > > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > > > > > server ns1.netsol.com > > > > Default Server: ns1.netsol.com > > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > > > > > csocs.com > > > > Server: ns1.netsol.com > > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > *** Request to ns1.netsol.com timed-out > > > > > > > > > networksolutions.com > > > > Server: ns1.netsol.com > > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > *** Request to ns1.netsol.com timed-out > > > > > > > > This tells me there's evidently some sort of dns issue I guess. > > > > > > > > J.C. Frazier > > > > > > > > > > > > "Forrest W. Christian" wrote: > > > > > > > > > If you don't have TCP connectivity between you and them, there is > > > > > definately some sort of routing or filtering issue between point a and b. > > > > > > > > > > Would you be kind enough to (perhaps privately) send me the IP address of > > > > > the machine in question so I can see what it looks like routing-wise from > > > > > here (perhaps I can see something). > > > > > > > > > > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com > > > Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com > Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 19: 3:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from puck.firepipe.net (mcut-b-167.resnet.purdue.edu [128.211.209.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CEDF37B400 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 19:03:41 -0800 (PST) Received: by puck.firepipe.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D9B4919CA; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:03:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:03:33 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Erich Zigler Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Wholesale POP's. Message-ID: <20010117220333.L1761@puck.firepipe.net> Reply-To: Will Andrews References: <20010117180013.B29813@superhero.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="V3eawNQxI9TAjvgi" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010117180013.B29813@superhero.org>; from erichz@superhero.org on Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 06:00:13PM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --V3eawNQxI9TAjvgi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 06:00:13PM -0600, Erich Zigler wrote: > I was wondering if anyone out there is capable of selling wholesale POP's= in > New Mexico. We have our own radius server, just need POP's.=20 Check the archives? :) --=20 wca --V3eawNQxI9TAjvgi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6Zl0FF47idPgWcsURAleOAKCKotZjKtiqYAzX7ita4XGd4DF/XgCdHkDg Cw/pmHBcjqDLkn57GAJH+5A= =X83V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --V3eawNQxI9TAjvgi-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 19:15:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [207.154.226.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1F0237B400 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 19:15:00 -0800 (PST) Received: by elvis.mu.org (Postfix, from userid 1098) id 222F62BD14; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:14:55 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:14:54 -0600 From: Bill Fumerola To: Will Andrews Cc: Erich Zigler , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Wholesale POP's. Message-ID: <20010117211454.B57121@elvis.mu.org> References: <20010117180013.B29813@superhero.org> <20010117220333.L1761@puck.firepipe.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010117220333.L1761@puck.firepipe.net>; from will@physics.purdue.edu on Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 10:03:33PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-FEARSOME-20001103 i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 10:03:33PM -0500, Will Andrews wrote: > On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 06:00:13PM -0600, Erich Zigler wrote: > > I was wondering if anyone out there is capable of selling wholesale POP's in > > New Mexico. We have our own radius server, just need POP's. > > Check the archives? :) You have no clue what he's asking for, do you? -- Bill Fumerola - security yahoo / Yahoo! inc. - fumerola@yahoo-inc.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 21: 3:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dsl.MexComUSA.net (adsl-63-200-120-86.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.200.120.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4095D37B400 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:03:28 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by dsl.MexComUSA.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f0I4wbY28582; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:58:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Received: from 63.205.16.202 ( [63.205.16.202]) as user eculp@EnContacto.Net by Mail.MexComUSA.net with HTTP; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:58:37 -0800 Message-ID: <979793917.3a6677fd29496@Mail.MexComUSA.net> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 20:58:37 -0800 From: Edwin Culp To: J & C Frazier Cc: "Forrest W. Christian" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI References: <3A654864.73B8418@csocs.com> <979740615.3a65a7c752e1e@Mail.MexComUSA.net> <3A6631D8.195EA8F4@csocs.com> In-Reply-To: <3A6631D8.195EA8F4@csocs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 2.3.6-cvs Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoting J & C Frazier : > I tried what you said. Didn't seem to help any: > telnet networksolutions.com 25 > Trying 216.168.224.69... From what you are saying, I guess that you can't ping them either. Not that it will help, but have you run a traceroute to them? Where does it stop? I really don't have another idea. We all seem to be missing something here. Sorry, ed > telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Operation timed out > I called them again today. They wouldn't try to ping my box > from their location (good ol helpful NSI), so I couldn' get > anyother information why I can't seem to get or send mail to > NSI. > > Edwin Culp wrote: > > > I see that I got to this problem a little late so hopefully it is already > solved > > but if not, I would try adding one of the following ip's at the top of my > > /etc/resolv.conf file and try the telnet again and do the cut and paste or > flush > > my mail queue. > > > > NS1.NETSOL.com internet address = 216.168.224.200 > > NS3.NETSOL.com internet address = 216.168.224.201 > > NS2.NETSOL.com internet address = 198.17.208.71 > > > > in resolv.conf > > > > nameserver 216.168.224.200 > > > > ed > > > > Quoting J & C Frazier : > > > > > The box I connected from to www.networksolutions.com to create the form > > > has no problem connecting to the mail servers for NSI. The box in > question > > > however, that does control the e-mail, could not. It timed out. This > is > > > strange, > > > because the box has no problem getting or sending anyother mail. If > this > > > isn't > > > a dns/sendmail problem, and my IPs seem to be functioning fine elsewhere > on > > > the Internet.....then I'm not quite sure where to go next. Thanks for > your > > > response and help. > > > > > > J.C. Frazier > > > > > > "Forrest W. Christian" wrote: > > > > > > > You have an IP connectivity problem. Period. > > > > > > > > This is not DNS/Sendmail related, or at least it doesn't look like > it. > > > > > > > > Can you telnet to their mail servers, port 25? > > > > > > > > On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, J & C Frazier wrote: > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:53:21 -0700 > > > > > From: J & C Frazier > > > > > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > > > > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > > > > > > > > > And it escalates..... > > > > > > > > > > Tried to send NSI a form (that I had them send to an "off box" > > > address). > > > > > It seems not only do I not "get" their mail, but I can't "send" to > them > > > > > either. > > > > > Gotta love it.....I'm out of ideas and they're no help. Numerous > tries > > > now > > > > > > > > > > and the following is what I get back: > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Warning: could not send message for past 4 hours > > > > > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:13:57 -0700 (MST) > > > > > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem > > > > > To: > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************** > > > > > ** THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY ** > > > > > ** YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE ** > > > > > ********************************************** > > > > > > > > > > The original message was received at Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:12:11 > -0700 > > > > > (MST) from Bdialup74.chyn.uswest.net [209.181.14.233] > > > > > > > > > > ----- The following addresses had transient non-fatal errors > ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > > > > > ... Deferred: Operation timed out > with > > > > > networksolutions.com. > > > > > Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours > > > > > Will keep trying until message is 5 days old > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 > http://www.imach.com > > > > Solutions for your high-tech problems. > (406)-442-6648 > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > -- > > EnContacto.Net - InternetSalon.Org - CafeMania.Net > > -- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -- EnContacto.Net - InternetSalon.Org - CafeMania.Net -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 21: 7: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dsl.MexComUSA.net (adsl-63-200-120-86.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.200.120.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44E4337B400 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:06:43 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by dsl.MexComUSA.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f0I51wC28613; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:01:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Received: from 63.205.16.202 ( [63.205.16.202]) as user eculp@EnContacto.Net by Mail.MexComUSA.net with HTTP; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:01:58 -0800 Message-ID: <979794118.3a6678c630027@Mail.MexComUSA.net> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:01:58 -0800 From: Edwin Culp To: J & C Frazier Cc: "Forrest W. Christian" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI References: <3A654864.73B8418@csocs.com> <979740615.3a65a7c752e1e@Mail.MexComUSA.net> <3A6631D8.195EA8F4@csocs.com> In-Reply-To: <3A6631D8.195EA8F4@csocs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 2.3.6-cvs Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I forgot. I assume that you did try adding the following line at the top of your resolv.conf file. nameserver 216.168.224.200 ed Quoting J & C Frazier : > I tried what you said. Didn't seem to help any: > telnet networksolutions.com 25 > Trying 216.168.224.69... > telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Operation timed out > I called them again today. They wouldn't try to ping my box > from their location (good ol helpful NSI), so I couldn' get > anyother information why I can't seem to get or send mail to > NSI. > > Edwin Culp wrote: > > > I see that I got to this problem a little late so hopefully it is already > solved > > but if not, I would try adding one of the following ip's at the top of my > > /etc/resolv.conf file and try the telnet again and do the cut and paste or > flush > > my mail queue. > > > > NS1.NETSOL.com internet address = 216.168.224.200 > > NS3.NETSOL.com internet address = 216.168.224.201 > > NS2.NETSOL.com internet address = 198.17.208.71 > > > > in resolv.conf > > > > nameserver 216.168.224.200 > > > > ed > > > > Quoting J & C Frazier : > > > > > The box I connected from to www.networksolutions.com to create the form > > > has no problem connecting to the mail servers for NSI. The box in > question > > > however, that does control the e-mail, could not. It timed out. This > is > > > strange, > > > because the box has no problem getting or sending anyother mail. If > this > > > isn't > > > a dns/sendmail problem, and my IPs seem to be functioning fine elsewhere > on > > > the Internet.....then I'm not quite sure where to go next. Thanks for > your > > > response and help. > > > > > > J.C. Frazier > > > > > > "Forrest W. Christian" wrote: > > > > > > > You have an IP connectivity problem. Period. > > > > > > > > This is not DNS/Sendmail related, or at least it doesn't look like > it. > > > > > > > > Can you telnet to their mail servers, port 25? > > > > > > > > On Tue, 16 Jan 2001, J & C Frazier wrote: > > > > > > > > > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:53:21 -0700 > > > > > From: J & C Frazier > > > > > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > > > > > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > > > > > > > > > And it escalates..... > > > > > > > > > > Tried to send NSI a form (that I had them send to an "off box" > > > address). > > > > > It seems not only do I not "get" their mail, but I can't "send" to > them > > > > > either. > > > > > Gotta love it.....I'm out of ideas and they're no help. Numerous > tries > > > now > > > > > > > > > > and the following is what I get back: > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Warning: could not send message for past 4 hours > > > > > Date: Tue, 16 Jan 2001 23:13:57 -0700 (MST) > > > > > From: Mail Delivery Subsystem > > > > > To: > > > > > > > > > > ********************************************** > > > > > ** THIS IS A WARNING MESSAGE ONLY ** > > > > > ** YOU DO NOT NEED TO RESEND YOUR MESSAGE ** > > > > > ********************************************** > > > > > > > > > > The original message was received at Tue, 16 Jan 2001 19:12:11 > -0700 > > > > > (MST) from Bdialup74.chyn.uswest.net [209.181.14.233] > > > > > > > > > > ----- The following addresses had transient non-fatal errors > ----- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Transcript of session follows ----- > > > > > ... Deferred: Operation timed out > with > > > > > networksolutions.com. > > > > > Warning: message still undelivered after 4 hours > > > > > Will keep trying until message is 5 days old > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 > http://www.imach.com > > > > Solutions for your high-tech problems. > (406)-442-6648 > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > -- > > EnContacto.Net - InternetSalon.Org - CafeMania.Net > > -- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -- EnContacto.Net - InternetSalon.Org - CafeMania.Net -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 21:46:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dsl.MexComUSA.net (adsl-63-200-120-86.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.200.120.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2048237B400 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:46:06 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by dsl.MexComUSA.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f0I5fHC28885; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:41:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Received: from 63.205.16.202 ( [63.205.16.202]) as user eculp@EnContacto.Net by Mail.MexComUSA.net with HTTP; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:41:17 -0800 Message-ID: <979796477.3a6681fda7468@Mail.MexComUSA.net> Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2001 21:41:17 -0800 From: Edwin Culp To: alex huppenthal Cc: J & C Frazier , "Forrest W. Christian" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI References: <3A663920.A79412FC@csocs.com> <3A663AE7.E1F2AFA5@csocs.com> <00dc01c080e8$166f6120$1700a8c0@d7k> In-Reply-To: <00dc01c080e8$166f6120$1700a8c0@d7k> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 2.3.6-cvs Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alex, Thanks, nice to have access to dlint - webbased. I can think of many times when it would have really come in handy. As far as the csocs.com problem is concerned, one thing really got my attention. ;; trying nameserver NS.csocs.com. ERROR: no A records found. That might be a good place to start. I also get that none of the NS are authoritative named-xfer[1610]: [207.49.21.234] not authoritative for csocs.com, SOA query got rcode 0, aa 0, ancount 1, aucount 0 and named-xfer[1624]: [207.49.20.5] not authoritative for csocs.com, SOA query got rcode 0, aa 0, ancount 1, aucount 3 and named-xfer[1629]: [207.49.21.235] not authoritative for csocs.com, SOA query got rcode 0, aa 0, ancount 1, aucount 0 not good ed Quoting alex huppenthal : > you are welcome to use our dlint window to debug your DNS > > http://aspenworks.com/development/dns2.php > > dlint is a nice utility, we've just put a php wrapper around it for > web-based use. > > Cheers, > > -Alex > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J & C Frazier" > To: "Forrest W. Christian" ; "Edwin Culp" > ; > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 5:37 PM > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > > > Interesting, it also appears ns.csocs.com is giving non-authoritive > > responces on zones and domains it should be controlling. What > > a mess. > > > > J & C Frazier wrote: > > > > > The IP is 207.49.21.231 (csocs.com). Also note the following: > > > > > > # nslookup > > > Default Server: localhost.csocs.com > > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > > > > > > networksolutions.com > > > Server: localhost.csocs.com > > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > > Non-authoritative answer: > > > Name: networksolutions.com > > > Address: 216.168.224.69 > > > > > > > ns1.netsol.com > > > Server: localhost.csocs.com > > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > > Non-authoritative answer: > > > Name: ns1.netsol.com > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > > > server ns1.netsol.com > > > Default Server: ns1.netsol.com > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > > > csocs.com > > > Server: ns1.netsol.com > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > *** Request to ns1.netsol.com timed-out > > > > > > > networksolutions.com > > > Server: ns1.netsol.com > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > *** Request to ns1.netsol.com timed-out > > > > > > This tells me there's evidently some sort of dns issue I guess. > > > > > > J.C. Frazier > > > > > > "Forrest W. Christian" wrote: > > > > > > > If you don't have TCP connectivity between you and them, there is > > > > definately some sort of routing or filtering issue between point a > and > b. > > > > > > > > Would you be kind enough to (perhaps privately) send me the IP > address > of > > > > the machine in question so I can see what it looks like routing-wise > from > > > > here (perhaps I can see something). > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > -- EnContacto.Net - InternetSalon.Org - CafeMania.Net -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Jan 17 22:51:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsd.tcc-comp.com.au (unknown [203.36.148.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D025137B401 for ; Wed, 17 Jan 2001 22:51:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsd.tcc-comp.com.au (bsd.tcc-comp.com.au [203.36.148.141]) by bsd.tcc-comp.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA03146 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:51:07 +1100 (EST) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:51:07 +1100 (EST) From: Stephen Walsh To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Access statistics for apache In-Reply-To: <3A660CD8.7090808@digitaldaemon.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Jan Knepper wrote: > Does any of you know about a package that does access statistics for apache? > Looking through the apache log files I would figure there is something > around,... We'r using webalizer 2.x and are very happy with it (we used to use urchin untill they put all the nag's in [we are a *small* isp and can't aford some of the outragous charges for software]) === Stephen Walsh - VK3HEG TCC Computers (Internet Services) http://www.tcc-comp.com.au To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 18 4:58:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mout1.freenet.de (mout1.freenet.de [194.97.50.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89E4F37B401 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 04:58:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from [194.97.50.136] (helo=mx3.freenet.de) by mout1.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #2) id 14JEdk-00087N-00; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:58:08 +0100 Received: from b85c7.pppool.de ([213.7.133.199] helo=Magelan.Leidinger.net) by mx3.freenet.de with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #16) id 14JEdi-000525-00; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 13:58:07 +0100 Received: from Leidinger.net (netchild@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Magelan.Leidinger.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0IBeWk08674; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:40:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from netchild@Leidinger.net) Message-Id: <200101181140.f0IBeWk08674@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:40:30 +0100 (CET) From: Alexander Leidinger Subject: Re: Access statistics for apache To: nicole@unixgirl.com Cc: jan@digitaldaemon.com, freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 17 Jan, Nicole wrote: >> Does any of you know about a package that does access statistics for apache? >> Looking through the apache log files I would figure there is something >> around,... > > So far I personaly like http-analizer (also in the ports collectiom) > The reason I like it is it is fairly detailed, fast and after doing a full > months of logs it saves the stats in a history file so you don't have to > analize those logs again. > > I really wish I could find a log processor like it, were it will save the > history daily so each day I only have to feed it that days logs. Try modlogan (http://www.kneschke.de/), a FreeBSD port is at http://www.leidinger.net/FreeBSD/ (I need to improve the plist in the NOPORTSDOC case before I can send-pr it to the ports team). -- To boldly go where I surely don't belong. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net GPG fingerprint = 7423 F3E6 3A7E B334 A9CC B10A 1F5F 130A A638 6E7E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 18 5:15:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hitline.ch (mail.hitline.ch [195.129.74.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 530AA37B401 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 05:15:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from [195.129.74.2] (account micheal@com4u.ch HELO [10.10.14.46]) by hitline.ch (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4b8) with ESMTP id 3370269 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:15:29 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: micheal%com4u.ch@mail.com4u.ch Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <200101181140.f0IBeWk08674@Magelan.Leidinger.net> References: <200101181140.f0IBeWk08674@Magelan.Leidinger.net> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:15:26 +0100 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Michael O Shea Subject: Re: Access statistics for apache Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org =46or ISP use FunnelWeb is hard to beat. http://www.activeconcepts.com.au Takes logfiles and spits out all the vhosts in them. You can include header and footer code. =46or example we have inserted a php authorization script into them for customers to see their stats. The reports are second to none, see http://www.activeconcepts.com.au/reports/372/ Very fast. We currently parse hundhreds of vhosts from one daily logfile for all vhosts and one configfile. Runs on FreeBSD :-)) -- Micheal O Shea ----------------------------------------------------- com-o-tronic ag Micheal O Shea, Systems Engineer Gewerbepark CH-5506 M=E4genwil E-Mail micheal@com4u.ch Voice: +41 62 887 3734 =46ax: +41 62 896 1133 Internet: http://www.com4u.ch http://www.ehitline.ch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 18 5:25: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.kka.com (smtp.kka.com [63.141.65.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEA5537B400 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 05:24:38 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Wholesale POP's. To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2a November 23, 1999 Message-ID: From: Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 07:19:00 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Notes1st/Keno(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 01/18/2001 07:19:10 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org MegaNet, www.mega.net, had a program where you could resell their pops. When I talked to them last year they had an impressive coverage area nation wide. I believe they cut the price if you could handle your own radius authentication. I never went anywhere with them beyond asking a few questions, so.... Your mileage may vary. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Eric Stanfield, K2Access Keno Kozie and Associates 222 N LaSalle #1500 Chicago, IL 60606 (312) 332-3000 Bill Fumerola To: Will Andrews Sent by: cc: Erich Zigler , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG owner-freebsd-isp@F Subject: Re: Wholesale POP's. reeBSD.ORG 01/17/01 09:14 PM On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 10:03:33PM -0500, Will Andrews wrote: > On Wed, Jan 17, 2001 at 06:00:13PM -0600, Erich Zigler wrote: > > I was wondering if anyone out there is capable of selling wholesale POP's in > > New Mexico. We have our own radius server, just need POP's. > > Check the archives? :) You have no clue what he's asking for, do you? -- Bill Fumerola - security yahoo / Yahoo! inc. - fumerola@yahoo-inc.com / billf@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 18 5:34:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dsl.MexComUSA.net (adsl-63-200-120-86.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.200.120.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6862237B400 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 05:34:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by dsl.MexComUSA.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f0IDTRO14975; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 05:29:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Received: from 63.205.16.202 ( [63.205.16.202]) as user eculp@EnContacto.Net by Mail.MexComUSA.net with HTTP; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 05:29:26 -0800 Message-ID: <979824566.3a66efb633063@Mail.MexComUSA.net> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 05:29:26 -0800 From: Edwin Culp To: alex huppenthal Cc: isp@FreeBSD.Org Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI References: <3A663920.A79412FC@csocs.com> <3A663AE7.E1F2AFA5@csocs.com> <00dc01c080e8$166f6120$1700a8c0@d7k> <979796477.3a6681fda7468@Mail.MexComUSA.net> <014701c0811a$27800cd0$1700a8c0@d7k> In-Reply-To: <014701c0811a$27800cd0$1700a8c0@d7k> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 2.3.6-cvs Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alex, Thanks. I just found what is probably the Network Solutions problem in my maillog quite by accident. I have several hundred of these. Jan 18 05:20:38 EnContacto sendmail[83075]: f0IDKcm83075: ruleset=check_mail, arg1=, relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231] (may be forged), reject=451 4.1.8 ... Domain of sender address admin@csocs.com does not resolve Jan 18 05:20:38 EnContacto sendmail[83075]: f0IDKcm83075: from=, size=1313, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231] (may be forged) Jan 18 05:20:39 EnContacto sendmail[83076]: f0IDKdm83076: ruleset=check_mail, arg1=, relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231] (may be forged), reject=451 4.1.8 ... Domain of sender address admin@csocs.com does not resolve Jan 18 05:20:39 EnContacto sendmail[83076]: f0IDKdm83076: from=, size=4310, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231] (may be forged) Jan 18 05:22:46 EnContacto sendmail[83115]: f0IDMhm83115: ruleset=check_mail, arg1=, relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231], reject=451 4.1.8 ... Domain of sender address admin@csocs.com does not resolve IMHO, step one is fix the DNS and take it from there. Hopefully/probably this will get him up a going. provecho y saludos, ed Quoting alex huppenthal : > Ed, > > Thanks for your comments. I agree, it's strange. However, J & C Frazier > commented that there are 'A' record in that server. Unless it's configured > to be available only to private users, there's definitely a problem. no A > records means Bind is broken there. *s > > Hope it helps. It's pretty nice to see everyone pitching in to help out > like this. > > -Alex > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Edwin Culp" > To: "alex huppenthal" > Cc: "J & C Frazier" ; "Forrest W. Christian" > ; > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:41 PM > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > > > Alex, > > > > Thanks, nice to have access to dlint - webbased. I can think of many > times when > > it would have really come in handy. > > > > As far as the csocs.com problem is concerned, one thing really got my > attention. > > > > ;; trying nameserver NS.csocs.com. > > ERROR: no A records found. > > > > That might be a good place to start. > > > > I also get that none of the NS are authoritative > > > > named-xfer[1610]: [207.49.21.234] not authoritative for csocs.com, SOA > query got > > rcode 0, aa 0, ancount 1, aucount 0 > > and > > named-xfer[1624]: [207.49.20.5] not authoritative for csocs.com, SOA > query got > > rcode 0, aa 0, ancount 1, aucount 3 > > and > > named-xfer[1629]: [207.49.21.235] not authoritative for csocs.com, SOA > query > > got rcode 0, aa 0, ancount 1, aucount 0 > > > > not good > > > > ed > > > > Quoting alex huppenthal : > > > > > you are welcome to use our dlint window to debug your DNS > > > > > > http://aspenworks.com/development/dns2.php > > > > > > dlint is a nice utility, we've just put a php wrapper around it for > > > web-based use. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > -Alex > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "J & C Frazier" > > > To: "Forrest W. Christian" ; "Edwin Culp" > > > ; > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 5:37 PM > > > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > > > > > > > > > Interesting, it also appears ns.csocs.com is giving non-authoritive > > > > responces on zones and domains it should be controlling. What > > > > a mess. > > > > > > > > J & C Frazier wrote: > > > > > > > > > The IP is 207.49.21.231 (csocs.com). Also note the following: > > > > > > > > > > # nslookup > > > > > Default Server: localhost.csocs.com > > > > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > > > > > > > > > > networksolutions.com > > > > > Server: localhost.csocs.com > > > > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > > > > Non-authoritative answer: > > > > > Name: networksolutions.com > > > > > Address: 216.168.224.69 > > > > > > > > > > > ns1.netsol.com > > > > > Server: localhost.csocs.com > > > > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > > > > Non-authoritative answer: > > > > > Name: ns1.netsol.com > > > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > > > > > > > server ns1.netsol.com > > > > > Default Server: ns1.netsol.com > > > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > > > > > > > csocs.com > > > > > Server: ns1.netsol.com > > > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > *** Request to ns1.netsol.com timed-out > > > > > > > > > > > networksolutions.com > > > > > Server: ns1.netsol.com > > > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > *** Request to ns1.netsol.com timed-out > > > > > > > > > > This tells me there's evidently some sort of dns issue I guess. > > > > > > > > > > J.C. Frazier > > > > > > > > > > "Forrest W. Christian" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > If you don't have TCP connectivity between you and them, there is > > > > > > definately some sort of routing or filtering issue between point > a > > > and > > > b. > > > > > > > > > > > > Would you be kind enough to (perhaps privately) send me the IP > > > address > > > of > > > > > > the machine in question so I can see what it looks like > routing-wise > > > from > > > > > > here (perhaps I can see something). > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > EnContacto.Net - InternetSalon.Org - CafeMania.Net > > -- > > > > -- EnContacto.Net - InternetSalon.Org - CafeMania.Net -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 18 6: 0:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ra.upan.org (upan.org [204.107.76.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BBDB237B400 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:00:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from ocsinternet.com (localhost.upan.org [127.0.0.1]) by ra.upan.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0I90an39701; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:00:36 GMT (envelope-from mikel@ocsinternet.com) Message-ID: <3A66B0B3.2CDC35F8@ocsinternet.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 09:00:36 +0000 From: Mikel King X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Erich Zigler Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Wholesale POP's. References: <20010117180013.B29813@superhero.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org www.56k.com Erich Zigler wrote: > I was wondering if anyone out there is capable of selling wholesale POP's in > New Mexico. We have our own radius server, just need POP's. > > Any help would be greatly appreciated. > > -- > Erich Zigler > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 18 6:46:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from aspenworks.com (aspenworks.com [192.94.236.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF62A37B401 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 06:46:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from d7k (matrix.aspenworks.com [216.38.199.82]) by aspenworks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id HAA30901 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 07:46:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from alex@aspenworks.com) Message-ID: <01a401c0815d$62dc4bc0$1700a8c0@d7k> From: "alex huppenthal" To: References: <20010117180013.B29813@superhero.org> <3A66B0B3.2CDC35F8@ocsinternet.com> Subject: Password validation via MySQL Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 07:46:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We have a few clients who'd like to resell webhosting and email services on our tiny systems. This is fine. However, it's not likely they'll learn Unix. Here's my little plan. 1. Create a customer database in MySQL. 2. Modify the login / password authentication to operate via the MySQL database. 3. Modify Apache's .htaccess / authentication to work via MySQL. 4. Modify Radius to use the database 5.Change Sendmail's .forward, aliases, autoresponder to use the SQL database 6. Take the remaining part of the day off and celebrate. *s. Has anyone done this before? I'm opening Pandora's box? Comments on how we can make this happen in reasonable time? Solutions in /ports ? Cheers, -Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 18 7: 1:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from relay2.agava.net.ru (2.oivt.mipt.ru [193.125.142.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EA6337B400 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 07:01:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from gw.office.agava.ru (2.oivt.mipt.ru [193.125.142.2]) by relay2.agava.net.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B07B43796; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:00:54 +0300 (MSK) Received: from hellbell.domain (hellbell.domain [192.168.1.12]) by gw.office.agava.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6CDC85E6B; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:00:48 +0300 (MSK) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hellbell.domain (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C42ACDC1; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:00:48 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:00:48 +0300 (MSK) From: Alexey Zakirov X-Sender: frank@hellbell.domain To: alex huppenthal Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Password validation via MySQL In-Reply-To: <01a401c0815d$62dc4bc0$1700a8c0@d7k> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, alex huppenthal wrote: > 1. Create a customer database in MySQL. > 2. Modify the login / password authentication to operate via the MySQL > database. http://sourceforge.net/projects/pam-mysql/ > 3. Modify Apache's .htaccess / authentication to work via MySQL. mod_auth_mysql - http://modules.apache.org/search?id=144 > 4. Modify Radius to use the database > 5.Change Sendmail's .forward, aliases, autoresponder to use the SQL database "get a real MTA" :) Postfix cans use mysql maps out of box. *** WBR, Alexey Zakirov (frank@agava.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 18 7: 8:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from relay.reis.zp.ua (relay.ReIS.zp.ua [212.35.166.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E09137B400 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 07:08:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from jec.tetragr.zaporizhzhe.ua (Jec.ReIS.zp.ua [212.35.173.2]) by relay.reis.zp.ua (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0IF7Px12230; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:07:25 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from oleg@reis.zp.ua) Received: from Oleg.reis.zp.ua (oleg@Oleg.ReIS.zp.ua [212.35.166.6]) by jec.tetragr.zaporizhzhe.ua (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA58697; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:07:15 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from oleg@reis.zp.ua) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 17:07:15 +0200 (EET) Organization: ReIS Ltd. From: "Oleg V. Naumann" To: Alexey Zakirov Subject: Re: Password validation via MySQL Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, alex huppenthal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 18-Jan-01 Alexey Zakirov wrote: > On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, alex huppenthal wrote: > >> 1. Create a customer database in MySQL. >> 2. Modify the login / password authentication to operate via the >> MySQL >> database. > > http://sourceforge.net/projects/pam-mysql/ > >> 3. Modify Apache's .htaccess / authentication to work via MySQL. > > mod_auth_mysql - http://modules.apache.org/search?id=144 > >> 4. Modify Radius to use the database InnerCite Radius - ftp://ftp.innercite.com/pub/icradius/ >> 5.Change Sendmail's .forward, aliases, autoresponder to use the SQL >> database > > "get a real MTA" :) Postfix cans use mysql maps out of box. > > *** WBR, Alexey Zakirov (frank@agava.com) > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message With best wishes Oleg V. Naumann Date: 18-Jan-01 Time: 17:04:01 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 18 8:31:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from manor.msen.com (manor.msen.com [148.59.4.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A200C37B698; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:31:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from manor.msen.com (wayne@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by manor.msen.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA32357; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:31:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wayne@manor.msen.com) Message-Id: <200101181631.LAA32357@manor.msen.com> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: No OSPF with gated 3.6 on FreeBSD 4.2 stable Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:31:33 -0500 From: "Michael R. Wayne" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We brought up a new box on a January 9th build of 4.2 stable. Everything seemed fine until we fired up gated 3.6 public (current port). gated comes up properly but it won't talk OSPF at all (other OSPF routers never see any OSPF packets and gated_dump shows no OSPF activity). The config file is a clone from a working 3.3 system with only the IP address changed to that of the new machine. Replaced the binary with the one from the 3.3 machine (and installed the required shared library) - same result. So the culprit appears to be the kernel. I did not notice anything on freebsd-stable regarding this lately but it's possible that it was buried under something else and I missed it. Any ideas? /\/\ \/\/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 18 8:43: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3A3D37B401; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 08:42:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f0IGgdW82993; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:42:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.0.1.4.0.20010118113308.025eeb00@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.1 Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 11:36:11 -0500 To: "Michael R. Wayne" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: No OSPF with gated 3.6 on FreeBSD 4.2 stable In-Reply-To: <200101181631.LAA32357@manor.msen.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 11:31 AM 1/18/01 -0500, Michael R. Wayne wrote: >I did not notice anything on freebsd-stable regarding this lately but >it's possible that it was buried under something else and I missed it. I have gated running OSPF on a bunch of 4.x boxes. Are you sure you have all the correct kernel params ? Is ipforwarding turned on as well ? ---Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 18 12:15:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3036937B69C for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 12:15:20 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with UUCP id f0IKF4e68840; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:15:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.0.14]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.1/8.11.0) with SMTP id f0IKEgm24234; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:14:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <004b01c0818b$561dba80$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Reply-To: "Leif Neland" From: "Leif Neland" To: "Ryan J. Taylor" , "Nicole" Cc: References: Subject: Re: Access statistics for apache Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:14:35 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ryan J. Taylor" To: "Nicole" Cc: Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 1:09 AM Subject: RE: Access statistics for apache > Hi Nicole, > > > I really wish I could find a log processor like it, were it will save the > > history daily so each day I only have to feed it that days logs. > > Webalizer does exactly that. Our web servers run stats for each domain > hosted. Each one has its own webalizer.conf and we have a cron job that > chews up the logs each night. Stats are kept for a whole year before the > oldest month is replaced by this year's month of the same name. Actually, the older logs are still there, (if you don't delete them yourself), they are just not linked to from the main page. You just have to type the url yourself. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 18 14:51: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.csocs.com (shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 579E637B402 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:50:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from csocs.com (Bdialup38.chyn.uswest.net [209.181.14.197]) by shell.csocs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA37355; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:48:27 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from admin@csocs.com) Message-ID: <3A67727D.44A40EF4@csocs.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:47:25 -0700 From: J & C Frazier Organization: CSOCS Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Edwin Culp Cc: alex huppenthal , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI References: <3A663920.A79412FC@csocs.com> <3A663AE7.E1F2AFA5@csocs.com> <00dc01c080e8$166f6120$1700a8c0@d7k> <979796477.3a6681fda7468@Mail.MexComUSA.net> <014701c0811a$27800cd0$1700a8c0@d7k> <979824566.3a66efb633063@Mail.MexComUSA.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Negative, that is obviously a problem of yours. csocs.com resolves just fine. There is no dns problem here, only a routing/filter problem with a node inbetween me and NSI. Edwin Culp wrote: > Alex, > > Thanks. I just found what is probably the Network Solutions problem in my > maillog quite by accident. > > I have several hundred of these. > > Jan 18 05:20:38 EnContacto sendmail[83075]: f0IDKcm83075: ruleset=check_mail, > arg1=, relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231] (may be > forged), reject=451 4.1.8 ... Domain of sender address > admin@csocs.com does not resolve > Jan 18 05:20:38 EnContacto sendmail[83075]: f0IDKcm83075: > from=, size=1313, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, > relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231] (may be forged) > Jan 18 05:20:39 EnContacto sendmail[83076]: f0IDKdm83076: ruleset=check_mail, > arg1=, relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231] (may be > forged), reject=451 4.1.8 ... Domain of sender address > admin@csocs.com does not resolve > Jan 18 05:20:39 EnContacto sendmail[83076]: f0IDKdm83076: > from=, size=4310, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, > relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231] (may be forged) > Jan 18 05:22:46 EnContacto sendmail[83115]: f0IDMhm83115: ruleset=check_mail, > arg1=, relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231], reject=451 > 4.1.8 ... Domain of sender address admin@csocs.com does not > resolve > > IMHO, step one is fix the DNS and take it from there. Hopefully/probably this > will get him up a going. > > provecho y saludos, > > ed > > Quoting alex huppenthal : > > > Ed, > > > > Thanks for your comments. I agree, it's strange. However, J & C Frazier > > commented that there are 'A' record in that server. Unless it's configured > > to be available only to private users, there's definitely a problem. no A > > records means Bind is broken there. *s > > > > Hope it helps. It's pretty nice to see everyone pitching in to help out > > like this. > > > > -Alex > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Edwin Culp" > > To: "alex huppenthal" > > Cc: "J & C Frazier" ; "Forrest W. Christian" > > ; > > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:41 PM > > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > > > > > > Alex, > > > > > > Thanks, nice to have access to dlint - webbased. I can think of many > > times when > > > it would have really come in handy. > > > > > > As far as the csocs.com problem is concerned, one thing really got my > > attention. > > > > > > ;; trying nameserver NS.csocs.com. > > > ERROR: no A records found. > > > > > > That might be a good place to start. > > > > > > I also get that none of the NS are authoritative > > > > > > named-xfer[1610]: [207.49.21.234] not authoritative for csocs.com, SOA > > query got > > > rcode 0, aa 0, ancount 1, aucount 0 > > > and > > > named-xfer[1624]: [207.49.20.5] not authoritative for csocs.com, SOA > > query got > > > rcode 0, aa 0, ancount 1, aucount 3 > > > and > > > named-xfer[1629]: [207.49.21.235] not authoritative for csocs.com, SOA > > query > > > got rcode 0, aa 0, ancount 1, aucount 0 > > > > > > not good > > > > > > ed > > > > > > Quoting alex huppenthal : > > > > > > > you are welcome to use our dlint window to debug your DNS > > > > > > > > http://aspenworks.com/development/dns2.php > > > > > > > > dlint is a nice utility, we've just put a php wrapper around it for > > > > web-based use. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > -Alex > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "J & C Frazier" > > > > To: "Forrest W. Christian" ; "Edwin Culp" > > > > ; > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 5:37 PM > > > > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting, it also appears ns.csocs.com is giving non-authoritive > > > > > responces on zones and domains it should be controlling. What > > > > > a mess. > > > > > > > > > > J & C Frazier wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > The IP is 207.49.21.231 (csocs.com). Also note the following: > > > > > > > > > > > > # nslookup > > > > > > Default Server: localhost.csocs.com > > > > > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > networksolutions.com > > > > > > Server: localhost.csocs.com > > > > > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > > > > > Non-authoritative answer: > > > > > > Name: networksolutions.com > > > > > > Address: 216.168.224.69 > > > > > > > > > > > > > ns1.netsol.com > > > > > > Server: localhost.csocs.com > > > > > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > > > > > Non-authoritative answer: > > > > > > Name: ns1.netsol.com > > > > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > > > > > > > > > server ns1.netsol.com > > > > > > Default Server: ns1.netsol.com > > > > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > > > > > > > > > csocs.com > > > > > > Server: ns1.netsol.com > > > > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > > *** Request to ns1.netsol.com timed-out > > > > > > > > > > > > > networksolutions.com > > > > > > Server: ns1.netsol.com > > > > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > > *** Request to ns1.netsol.com timed-out > > > > > > > > > > > > This tells me there's evidently some sort of dns issue I guess. > > > > > > > > > > > > J.C. Frazier > > > > > > > > > > > > "Forrest W. Christian" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you don't have TCP connectivity between you and them, there is > > > > > > > definately some sort of routing or filtering issue between point > > a > > > > and > > > > b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would you be kind enough to (perhaps privately) send me the IP > > > > address > > > > of > > > > > > > the machine in question so I can see what it looks like > > routing-wise > > > > from > > > > > > > here (perhaps I can see something). > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > EnContacto.Net - InternetSalon.Org - CafeMania.Net > > > -- > > > > > > > > > -- > EnContacto.Net - InternetSalon.Org - CafeMania.Net > -- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 18 14:57: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from aspenworks.com (aspenworks.com [192.94.236.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A700737B404 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 14:56:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from d7k (matrix.aspenworks.com [216.38.199.82]) by aspenworks.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id PAA28207; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:56:32 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from alex@aspenworks.com) Message-ID: <006e01c081a1$b0fe7dc0$1700a8c0@d7k> From: "alex huppenthal" To: "J & C Frazier" , "Edwin Culp" Cc: References: <3A663920.A79412FC@csocs.com> <3A663AE7.E1F2AFA5@csocs.com> <00dc01c080e8$166f6120$1700a8c0@d7k> <979796477.3a6681fda7468@Mail.MexComUSA.net> <014701c0811a$27800cd0$1700a8c0@d7k> <979824566.3a66efb633063@Mail.MexComUSA.net> <3A67727D.44A40EF4@csocs.com> Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:55:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I see the same thing here. Dlint doesn't see any A records, but a ping of csocs.com works fine here. Apparently the listing of A records at the nameserver is inhibited. -Alex ----- Original Message ----- From: "J & C Frazier" To: "Edwin Culp" Cc: "alex huppenthal" ; Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 3:47 PM Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > Negative, that is obviously a problem of yours. csocs.com resolves just fine. > There is no dns problem here, only a routing/filter problem with a node > inbetween me and NSI. > > Edwin Culp wrote: > > > Alex, > > > > Thanks. I just found what is probably the Network Solutions problem in my > > maillog quite by accident. > > > > I have several hundred of these. > > > > Jan 18 05:20:38 EnContacto sendmail[83075]: f0IDKcm83075: ruleset=check_mail, > > arg1=, relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231] (may be > > forged), reject=451 4.1.8 ... Domain of sender address > > admin@csocs.com does not resolve > > Jan 18 05:20:38 EnContacto sendmail[83075]: f0IDKcm83075: > > from=, size=1313, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, > > relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231] (may be forged) > > Jan 18 05:20:39 EnContacto sendmail[83076]: f0IDKdm83076: ruleset=check_mail, > > arg1=, relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231] (may be > > forged), reject=451 4.1.8 ... Domain of sender address > > admin@csocs.com does not resolve > > Jan 18 05:20:39 EnContacto sendmail[83076]: f0IDKdm83076: > > from=, size=4310, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, daemon=MTA, > > relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231] (may be forged) > > Jan 18 05:22:46 EnContacto sendmail[83115]: f0IDMhm83115: ruleset=check_mail, > > arg1=, relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231], reject=451 > > 4.1.8 ... Domain of sender address admin@csocs.com does not > > resolve > > > > IMHO, step one is fix the DNS and take it from there. Hopefully/probably this > > will get him up a going. > > > > provecho y saludos, > > > > ed > > > > Quoting alex huppenthal : > > > > > Ed, > > > > > > Thanks for your comments. I agree, it's strange. However, J & C Frazier > > > commented that there are 'A' record in that server. Unless it's configured > > > to be available only to private users, there's definitely a problem. no A > > > records means Bind is broken there. *s > > > > > > Hope it helps. It's pretty nice to see everyone pitching in to help out > > > like this. > > > > > > -Alex > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Edwin Culp" > > > To: "alex huppenthal" > > > Cc: "J & C Frazier" ; "Forrest W. Christian" > > > ; > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:41 PM > > > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > > > > > > > > > Alex, > > > > > > > > Thanks, nice to have access to dlint - webbased. I can think of many > > > times when > > > > it would have really come in handy. > > > > > > > > As far as the csocs.com problem is concerned, one thing really got my > > > attention. > > > > > > > > ;; trying nameserver NS.csocs.com. > > > > ERROR: no A records found. > > > > > > > > That might be a good place to start. > > > > > > > > I also get that none of the NS are authoritative > > > > > > > > named-xfer[1610]: [207.49.21.234] not authoritative for csocs.com, SOA > > > query got > > > > rcode 0, aa 0, ancount 1, aucount 0 > > > > and > > > > named-xfer[1624]: [207.49.20.5] not authoritative for csocs.com, SOA > > > query got > > > > rcode 0, aa 0, ancount 1, aucount 3 > > > > and > > > > named-xfer[1629]: [207.49.21.235] not authoritative for csocs.com, SOA > > > query > > > > got rcode 0, aa 0, ancount 1, aucount 0 > > > > > > > > not good > > > > > > > > ed > > > > > > > > Quoting alex huppenthal : > > > > > > > > > you are welcome to use our dlint window to debug your DNS > > > > > > > > > > http://aspenworks.com/development/dns2.php > > > > > > > > > > dlint is a nice utility, we've just put a php wrapper around it for > > > > > web-based use. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > -Alex > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "J & C Frazier" > > > > > To: "Forrest W. Christian" ; "Edwin Culp" > > > > > ; > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 5:37 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting, it also appears ns.csocs.com is giving non-authoritive > > > > > > responces on zones and domains it should be controlling. What > > > > > > a mess. > > > > > > > > > > > > J & C Frazier wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > The IP is 207.49.21.231 (csocs.com). Also note the following: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # nslookup > > > > > > > Default Server: localhost.csocs.com > > > > > > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > networksolutions.com > > > > > > > Server: localhost.csocs.com > > > > > > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > > > > > > Non-authoritative answer: > > > > > > > Name: networksolutions.com > > > > > > > Address: 216.168.224.69 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ns1.netsol.com > > > > > > > Server: localhost.csocs.com > > > > > > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > > > > > > Non-authoritative answer: > > > > > > > Name: ns1.netsol.com > > > > > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > server ns1.netsol.com > > > > > > > Default Server: ns1.netsol.com > > > > > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > csocs.com > > > > > > > Server: ns1.netsol.com > > > > > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > > > *** Request to ns1.netsol.com timed-out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > networksolutions.com > > > > > > > Server: ns1.netsol.com > > > > > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > > > *** Request to ns1.netsol.com timed-out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This tells me there's evidently some sort of dns issue I guess. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J.C. Frazier > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Forrest W. Christian" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you don't have TCP connectivity between you and them, there is > > > > > > > > definately some sort of routing or filtering issue between point > > > a > > > > > and > > > > > b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would you be kind enough to (perhaps privately) send me the IP > > > > > address > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the machine in question so I can see what it looks like > > > routing-wise > > > > > from > > > > > > > > here (perhaps I can see something). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > EnContacto.Net - InternetSalon.Org - CafeMania.Net > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > EnContacto.Net - InternetSalon.Org - CafeMania.Net > > -- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 18 15: 8:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.csocs.com (shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31CAA37B404 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:07:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from csocs.com (Bdialup38.chyn.uswest.net [209.181.14.197]) by shell.csocs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA37562; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:05:33 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from admin@csocs.com) Message-ID: <3A67767F.9B3DA961@csocs.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:04:31 -0700 From: J & C Frazier Organization: CSOCS Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: alex huppenthal Cc: Edwin Culp , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI References: <3A663920.A79412FC@csocs.com> <3A663AE7.E1F2AFA5@csocs.com> <00dc01c080e8$166f6120$1700a8c0@d7k> <979796477.3a6681fda7468@Mail.MexComUSA.net> <014701c0811a$27800cd0$1700a8c0@d7k> <979824566.3a66efb633063@Mail.MexComUSA.net> <3A67727D.44A40EF4@csocs.com> <006e01c081a1$b0fe7dc0$1700a8c0@d7k> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org correct, listing of records is inhibited. I used miceandmen and the records appear to be just fine. alex huppenthal wrote: > I see the same thing here. Dlint doesn't see any A records, but a ping of > csocs.com works fine here. > > Apparently the listing of A records at the nameserver is inhibited. > > -Alex > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "J & C Frazier" > To: "Edwin Culp" > Cc: "alex huppenthal" ; > Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2001 3:47 PM > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > > Negative, that is obviously a problem of yours. csocs.com resolves just > fine. > > There is no dns problem here, only a routing/filter problem with a node > > inbetween me and NSI. > > > > Edwin Culp wrote: > > > > > Alex, > > > > > > Thanks. I just found what is probably the Network Solutions problem in > my > > > maillog quite by accident. > > > > > > I have several hundred of these. > > > > > > Jan 18 05:20:38 EnContacto sendmail[83075]: f0IDKcm83075: > ruleset=check_mail, > > > arg1=, relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231] (may > be > > > forged), reject=451 4.1.8 ... Domain of sender address > > > admin@csocs.com does not resolve > > > Jan 18 05:20:38 EnContacto sendmail[83075]: f0IDKcm83075: > > > from=, size=1313, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, > daemon=MTA, > > > relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231] (may be forged) > > > Jan 18 05:20:39 EnContacto sendmail[83076]: f0IDKdm83076: > ruleset=check_mail, > > > arg1=, relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231] (may > be > > > forged), reject=451 4.1.8 ... Domain of sender address > > > admin@csocs.com does not resolve > > > Jan 18 05:20:39 EnContacto sendmail[83076]: f0IDKdm83076: > > > from=, size=4310, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, > daemon=MTA, > > > relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231] (may be forged) > > > Jan 18 05:22:46 EnContacto sendmail[83115]: f0IDMhm83115: > ruleset=check_mail, > > > arg1=, relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231], > reject=451 > > > 4.1.8 ... Domain of sender address admin@csocs.com does > not > > > resolve > > > > > > IMHO, step one is fix the DNS and take it from there. > Hopefully/probably this > > > will get him up a going. > > > > > > provecho y saludos, > > > > > > ed > > > > > > Quoting alex huppenthal : > > > > > > > Ed, > > > > > > > > Thanks for your comments. I agree, it's strange. However, J & C > Frazier > > > > commented that there are 'A' record in that server. Unless it's > configured > > > > to be available only to private users, there's definitely a problem. > no A > > > > records means Bind is broken there. *s > > > > > > > > Hope it helps. It's pretty nice to see everyone pitching in to help > out > > > > like this. > > > > > > > > -Alex > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Edwin Culp" > > > > To: "alex huppenthal" > > > > Cc: "J & C Frazier" ; "Forrest W. Christian" > > > > ; > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:41 PM > > > > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > > > > > > > > > > > > Alex, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, nice to have access to dlint - webbased. I can think of > many > > > > times when > > > > > it would have really come in handy. > > > > > > > > > > As far as the csocs.com problem is concerned, one thing really got > my > > > > attention. > > > > > > > > > > ;; trying nameserver NS.csocs.com. > > > > > ERROR: no A records found. > > > > > > > > > > That might be a good place to start. > > > > > > > > > > I also get that none of the NS are authoritative > > > > > > > > > > named-xfer[1610]: [207.49.21.234] not authoritative for csocs.com, > SOA > > > > query got > > > > > rcode 0, aa 0, ancount 1, aucount 0 > > > > > and > > > > > named-xfer[1624]: [207.49.20.5] not authoritative for csocs.com, > SOA > > > > query got > > > > > rcode 0, aa 0, ancount 1, aucount 3 > > > > > and > > > > > named-xfer[1629]: [207.49.21.235] not authoritative for csocs.com, > SOA > > > > query > > > > > got rcode 0, aa 0, ancount 1, aucount 0 > > > > > > > > > > not good > > > > > > > > > > ed > > > > > > > > > > Quoting alex huppenthal : > > > > > > > > > > > you are welcome to use our dlint window to debug your DNS > > > > > > > > > > > > http://aspenworks.com/development/dns2.php > > > > > > > > > > > > dlint is a nice utility, we've just put a php wrapper around it > for > > > > > > web-based use. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > > > -Alex > > > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > From: "J & C Frazier" > > > > > > To: "Forrest W. Christian" ; "Edwin Culp" > > > > > > ; > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 5:37 PM > > > > > > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting, it also appears ns.csocs.com is giving > non-authoritive > > > > > > > responces on zones and domains it should be controlling. What > > > > > > > a mess. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J & C Frazier wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The IP is 207.49.21.231 (csocs.com). Also note the following: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # nslookup > > > > > > > > Default Server: localhost.csocs.com > > > > > > > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > networksolutions.com > > > > > > > > Server: localhost.csocs.com > > > > > > > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > > > > > > > Non-authoritative answer: > > > > > > > > Name: networksolutions.com > > > > > > > > Address: 216.168.224.69 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ns1.netsol.com > > > > > > > > Server: localhost.csocs.com > > > > > > > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > > > > > > > Non-authoritative answer: > > > > > > > > Name: ns1.netsol.com > > > > > > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > server ns1.netsol.com > > > > > > > > Default Server: ns1.netsol.com > > > > > > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > csocs.com > > > > > > > > Server: ns1.netsol.com > > > > > > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > > > > *** Request to ns1.netsol.com timed-out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > networksolutions.com > > > > > > > > Server: ns1.netsol.com > > > > > > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > > > > *** Request to ns1.netsol.com timed-out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This tells me there's evidently some sort of dns issue I > guess. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J.C. Frazier > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Forrest W. Christian" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you don't have TCP connectivity between you and them, > there is > > > > > > > > > definately some sort of routing or filtering issue between > point > > > > a > > > > > > and > > > > > > b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would you be kind enough to (perhaps privately) send me the > IP > > > > > > address > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > the machine in question so I can see what it looks like > > > > routing-wise > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > here (perhaps I can see something). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > EnContacto.Net - InternetSalon.Org - CafeMania.Net > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > EnContacto.Net - InternetSalon.Org - CafeMania.Net > > > -- > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 18 15:36:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dsl.MexComUSA.net (adsl-63-200-120-86.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.200.120.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9696437B401 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:35:51 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by dsl.MexComUSA.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f0INV5m02042; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:31:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Received: from 63.200.120.86 ( [63.200.120.86]) as user eculp@EnContacto.Net by Mail.MexComUSA.net with HTTP; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:31:05 -0800 Message-ID: <979860665.3a677cb933ea8@Mail.MexComUSA.net> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 15:31:05 -0800 From: Edwin Culp To: J & C Frazier Cc: alex huppenthal , isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI References: <3A663920.A79412FC@csocs.com> <3A663AE7.E1F2AFA5@csocs.com> <00dc01c080e8$166f6120$1700a8c0@d7k> <979796477.3a6681fda7468@Mail.MexComUSA.net> <014701c0811a$27800cd0$1700a8c0@d7k> <979824566.3a66efb633063@Mail.MexComUSA.net> <3A67727D.44A40EF4@csocs.com> In-Reply-To: <3A67727D.44A40EF4@csocs.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 2.3.6-cvs Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoting J & C Frazier : > Negative, that is obviously a problem of yours. csocs.com resolves just > fine. Could be, I'm far from perfect, but with about 4,000 emails yesterday yours is the only one that I have screwed up and the only one that has a problem resolving. This may be interesting. Using one of PacBell's Name Servers since mine is screwed up: # nslookup csocs.com Server: dns1-sf.snfc21.pacbell.net Address: 206.13.28.12 *** dns1-sf.snfc21.pacbell.net can't find csocs.com: Non-existent host/domain ----------------------------------------------------- Same PacBell Name Server will tell us who your NS's are: # nslookup Default Server: dns1-sf.snfc21.pacbell.net Address: 206.13.28.12 > set type=ns > csocs.com Server: dns1-sf.snfc21.pacbell.net Address: 206.13.28.12 Non-authoritative answer: csocs.com nameserver = NS2.COLOCATEUSA.NET csocs.com nameserver = NS2.csocs.com csocs.com nameserver = NS.csocs.com Authoritative answers can be found from: NS2.COLOCATEUSA.NET internet address = 207.49.20.5 NS2.csocs.com internet address = 207.49.21.235 NS.csocs.com internet address = 207.49.21.234 ------------------------------------------------------ Hmmm.... I'm a little confused as to why PacBell doesn't resolve for csocs.com. > There is no dns problem here, only a routing/filter problem with a node > inbetween me and NSI. I'm very glad to hear that you don't have a dns problem, please let me/us know what it was when you find it because I'm confused. Good luck, ed > > Edwin Culp wrote: > > > Alex, > > > > Thanks. I just found what is probably the Network Solutions problem in > my > > maillog quite by accident. > > > > I have several hundred of these. > > > > Jan 18 05:20:38 EnContacto sendmail[83075]: f0IDKcm83075: > ruleset=check_mail, > > arg1=, relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231] (may > be > > forged), reject=451 4.1.8 ... Domain of sender address > > admin@csocs.com does not resolve > > Jan 18 05:20:38 EnContacto sendmail[83075]: f0IDKcm83075: > > from=, size=1313, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, > daemon=MTA, > > relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231] (may be forged) > > Jan 18 05:20:39 EnContacto sendmail[83076]: f0IDKdm83076: > ruleset=check_mail, > > arg1=, relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231] (may > be > > forged), reject=451 4.1.8 ... Domain of sender address > > admin@csocs.com does not resolve > > Jan 18 05:20:39 EnContacto sendmail[83076]: f0IDKdm83076: > > from=, size=4310, class=0, nrcpts=0, proto=ESMTP, > daemon=MTA, > > relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231] (may be forged) > > Jan 18 05:22:46 EnContacto sendmail[83115]: f0IDMhm83115: > ruleset=check_mail, > > arg1=, relay=root@shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231], > reject=451 > > 4.1.8 ... Domain of sender address admin@csocs.com does > not > > resolve > > > > IMHO, step one is fix the DNS and take it from there. Hopefully/probably > this > > will get him up a going. > > > > provecho y saludos, > > > > ed > > > > Quoting alex huppenthal : > > > > > Ed, > > > > > > Thanks for your comments. I agree, it's strange. However, J & C > Frazier > > > commented that there are 'A' record in that server. Unless it's > configured > > > to be available only to private users, there's definitely a problem. no > A > > > records means Bind is broken there. *s > > > > > > Hope it helps. It's pretty nice to see everyone pitching in to help > out > > > like this. > > > > > > -Alex > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Edwin Culp" > > > To: "alex huppenthal" > > > Cc: "J & C Frazier" ; "Forrest W. Christian" > > > ; > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 10:41 PM > > > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > > > > > > > > > Alex, > > > > > > > > Thanks, nice to have access to dlint - webbased. I can think of many > > > times when > > > > it would have really come in handy. > > > > > > > > As far as the csocs.com problem is concerned, one thing really got my > > > attention. > > > > > > > > ;; trying nameserver NS.csocs.com. > > > > ERROR: no A records found. > > > > > > > > That might be a good place to start. > > > > > > > > I also get that none of the NS are authoritative > > > > > > > > named-xfer[1610]: [207.49.21.234] not authoritative for csocs.com, > SOA > > > query got > > > > rcode 0, aa 0, ancount 1, aucount 0 > > > > and > > > > named-xfer[1624]: [207.49.20.5] not authoritative for csocs.com, SOA > > > query got > > > > rcode 0, aa 0, ancount 1, aucount 3 > > > > and > > > > named-xfer[1629]: [207.49.21.235] not authoritative for csocs.com, > SOA > > > query > > > > got rcode 0, aa 0, ancount 1, aucount 0 > > > > > > > > not good > > > > > > > > ed > > > > > > > > Quoting alex huppenthal : > > > > > > > > > you are welcome to use our dlint window to debug your DNS > > > > > > > > > > http://aspenworks.com/development/dns2.php > > > > > > > > > > dlint is a nice utility, we've just put a php wrapper around it for > > > > > web-based use. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > > -Alex > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "J & C Frazier" > > > > > To: "Forrest W. Christian" ; "Edwin Culp" > > > > > ; > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2001 5:37 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting, it also appears ns.csocs.com is giving > non-authoritive > > > > > > responces on zones and domains it should be controlling. What > > > > > > a mess. > > > > > > > > > > > > J & C Frazier wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > The IP is 207.49.21.231 (csocs.com). Also note the following: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > # nslookup > > > > > > > Default Server: localhost.csocs.com > > > > > > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > networksolutions.com > > > > > > > Server: localhost.csocs.com > > > > > > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > > > > > > Non-authoritative answer: > > > > > > > Name: networksolutions.com > > > > > > > Address: 216.168.224.69 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ns1.netsol.com > > > > > > > Server: localhost.csocs.com > > > > > > > Address: 127.0.0.1 > > > > > > > Non-authoritative answer: > > > > > > > Name: ns1.netsol.com > > > > > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > server ns1.netsol.com > > > > > > > Default Server: ns1.netsol.com > > > > > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > csocs.com > > > > > > > Server: ns1.netsol.com > > > > > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > > > *** Request to ns1.netsol.com timed-out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > networksolutions.com > > > > > > > Server: ns1.netsol.com > > > > > > > Address: 216.168.224.200 > > > > > > > *** Request to ns1.netsol.com timed-out > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This tells me there's evidently some sort of dns issue I guess. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > J.C. Frazier > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Forrest W. Christian" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you don't have TCP connectivity between you and them, there > is > > > > > > > > definately some sort of routing or filtering issue between > point > > > a > > > > > and > > > > > b. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would you be kind enough to (perhaps privately) send me the > IP > > > > > address > > > > > of > > > > > > > > the machine in question so I can see what it looks like > > > routing-wise > > > > > from > > > > > > > > here (perhaps I can see something). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > EnContacto.Net - InternetSalon.Org - CafeMania.Net > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > EnContacto.Net - InternetSalon.Org - CafeMania.Net > > -- > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -- EnContacto.Net - InternetSalon.Org - CafeMania.Net -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 18 16: 6:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from reiters.org (reiters.org [64.40.73.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7361037B400 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 16:06:14 -0800 (PST) Received: by reiters.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0C966D625; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:06:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 18:06:12 -0600 From: Dennis Reiter To: J & C Frazier Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI Message-ID: <20010118180612.A32853@reiters.org> References: <3A663920.A79412FC@csocs.com> <3A663AE7.E1F2AFA5@csocs.com> <00dc01c080e8$166f6120$1700a8c0@d7k> <979796477.3a6681fda7468@Mail.MexComUSA.net> <014701c0811a$27800cd0$1700a8c0@d7k> <979824566.3a66efb633063@Mail.MexComUSA.net> <3A67727D.44A40EF4@csocs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.2i In-Reply-To: <3A67727D.44A40EF4@csocs.com>; from admin@csocs.com on Thu, Jan 18, 2001 at 03:47:25PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, here's what I get. Why are none of your servers authoritative? cadfael ~/tmp #nslookup -query=mx csocs.com Server: localhost Address: 127.0.0.1 Non-authoritative answer: csocs.com preference = 0, mail exchanger = csocs.com csocs.com preference = 50, mail exchanger = mail.colocateusa.com Authoritative answers can be found from: csocs.com nameserver = NS.csocs.com csocs.com nameserver = NS2.COLOCATEUSA.NET csocs.com nameserver = NS2.csocs.com csocs.com internet address = 207.49.21.231 mail.colocateusa.com internet address = 207.49.20.11 NS.csocs.com internet address = 207.49.21.234 NS2.COLOCATEUSA.NET internet address = 207.49.20.5 NS2.csocs.com internet address = 207.49.21.235 cadfael ~/tmp #nslookup -query=mx csocs.com ns.csocs.com Server: ns.csocs.com Address: 207.49.21.234 Non-authoritative answer: csocs.com preference = 0, mail exchanger = csocs.com csocs.com preference = 50, mail exchanger = mail.colocateusa.com Authoritative answers can be found from: csocs.com internet address = 207.49.21.231 mail.colocateusa.com internet address = 207.49.20.11 cadfael ~/tmp #nslookup -query=mx csocs.com ns2.colocateusa.net Server: ns2.colocateusa.net Address: 207.49.20.5 *** ns2.colocateusa.net can't find csocs.com: Non-existent host/domain cadfael ~/tmp #nslookup -query=mx csocs.com ns2.csocs.com Server: ns2.csocs.com Address: 207.49.21.235 Non-authoritative answer: csocs.com preference = 50, mail exchanger = mail.colocateusa.com csocs.com preference = 0, mail exchanger = csocs.com Authoritative answers can be found from: mail.colocateusa.com internet address = 207.49.20.11 csocs.com internet address = 207.49.21.231 cadfael ~/tmp #nslookup -query=mx csocs.com csocs.com Server: shell.csocs.com Address: 207.49.21.231 Non-authoritative answer: csocs.com preference = 50, mail exchanger = mail.colocateusa.com csocs.com preference = 0, mail exchanger = csocs.com Authoritative answers can be found from: mail.colocateusa.com internet address = 207.49.20.11 csocs.com internet address = 207.49.21.231 cadfael ~/tmp #nslookup -query=mx csocs.com mail.colocateusa.com *** Can't find server name for address 207.49.20.11: No response from server *** Default servers are not available Quoting J & C Frazier (admin@csocs.com): > Negative, that is obviously a problem of yours. csocs.com resolves just fine. > There is no dns problem here, only a routing/filter problem with a node > inbetween me and NSI. -- Denny Reiter | denny@reiters.org Madison River Communications | reiterd@madisonriver.net www.scapegoats.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 18 20:16:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shell.csocs.com (shell.csocs.com [207.49.21.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5120837B400 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 20:16:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from csocs.com (Bdialup38.chyn.uswest.net [209.181.14.197]) by shell.csocs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA40189 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:13:57 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from admin@csocs.com) Message-ID: <3A67BEC9.7EC2D187@csocs.com> Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 21:12:57 -0700 From: J & C Frazier Organization: CSOCS Internet Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI References: <3A60EE08.3C9CD7AF@csocs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Conclusion: After talking to Cable and Wireless, they informed me that the server in question was actually the NSI router that connects NSI to the world. I contacted NSI and gave them the information (finally spoke with someone that could speak english there) and within an hour, it was fixed and everything's working again. Thanks to all of you and your help getting this resolved. It's amazing what you learn when stuff goes haywire. BTW: the dns issues were related to csocs.com being expired and the nameservers giving out old information. NSI has corrected this problem also and should be fixed in 24-48 hours (one of their nice billing techs misapplied funds). Thanks again. J.C. Frazier J & C Frazier wrote: > I recently tried to make some domain modifications with Network > Solutions. > I complete the process successfully and it states it has sent the form > to the > e-mail address I've specified. Unfortunately I don't get the mail. > I've called > them repeatedly and they say it's a problem with my mail settings. The > mail > never hits my box from what I've seen. Nothing in the logs and nothing > in > my /etc/hosts-allow. I can specify to send it to a yahoo or hotmail > account > and it will work, but any domain on this box, won't receive it. I was > wondering > if any of you knew another reason why mail from NSI won't hit sendmail. > It > appears all other mail goes through the box just fine. Thanks. > > J.C. Frazier > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Jan 18 22: 3:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from krell.webweaver.net (krell.webweaver.net [64.124.90.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 464C137B698 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:03:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from xwin.nmhtech.com (xwin.daemontech.net [208.138.46.161]) by krell.webweaver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C93120F10; Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:03:22 -0800 (PST) Content-Length: 2413 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2001 22:03:22 -0800 (PST) From: Nicole To: Phillip Salzman Subject: Re: Access statistics for apache Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, Jan Knepper Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 17-Jan-01 Phillip Salzman wrote: > You may also wish to look at Summary. It provides > a lot of information. Http://www.summary.net/ > I downloaded the summary linux binary, but everytime I trt to run it it crashes.. I have Linux emulation turned on in rc.conf and in the kernel. How did you manage to get it to work? is there something else I need to do? Thanks Nicole Core file says: failed to map segment from shared object cannot map file data invalid ELF header ELF file class not __ELF_WORDSIZE-bit ELF file data encoding not little-endian ELF file version ident not EV_CURRENT ELF file version not EV_CURRENT ELF file machine architecture not i386 ELF file's phentsize not the expected size cannot create shared object descriptor ELF load command alignment not page-aligned ELF load command address/offset not properly aligned cannot change memory protections cannot map zero-fill pages object file has no dynamic section > --- > Phillip Salzman > phill@FreeBSD.Org > http://www.sysctl.net/ |<- My Website. Are you scared yet? > -------------------------------------------------------------- > "If A equals success, then the formula is A = X + Y + Z. X is work. Y > is play. Z is keep your mouth shut." > -- Albert Einstein > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Jan Knepper wrote: > >> Hii, >> >> Does any of you know about a package that does access statistics for apache? >> Looking through the apache log files I would figure there is something >> around,... >> >> Jan >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >> > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message nicole@unixgirl.com |\ __ /| (`\ http://www.unixgirl.com/ webmistress@dangermouse.org | o_o |__ ) ) http://www.dangermouse.org/ nicole@deviantimages.com // \\ http://www.deviantimages.com/ ---------------------------(((---(((---------------------------------------- -- Powered by Coka-Cola and FreeBSD -- -- I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble -- -- Back Up My Hard Drive? I Can't Find The Reverse Switch! -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 19 6:21:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.kka.com (smtp.kka.com [63.141.65.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4363437B400 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 06:21:25 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI To: J & C Frazier Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.2a November 23, 1999 Message-ID: From: Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:15:45 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Notes1st/Keno(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 01/19/2001 08:15:52 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is an unfortunately common occurrence. Often I will have clients call me saying they can not email Company XYZ (almost always a bank for some reason) so I call XYZ and they either have a bogus route in their equipment or are not running classless and are treating 63.0.0.0 as a local network (for example). Suppose that might have been helpful info had I followed the thread, heh. Apologies. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Eric Stanfield, K2Access Keno Kozie and Associates 222 N LaSalle #1500 Chicago, IL 60606 (312) 332-3000 J & C Frazier To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sent by: cc: owner-freebsd-isp@F Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI reeBSD.ORG 01/18/01 10:12 PM Conclusion: After talking to Cable and Wireless, they informed me that the server in question was actually the NSI router that connects NSI to the world. I contacted NSI and gave them the information (finally spoke with someone that could speak english there) and within an hour, it was fixed and everything's working again. Thanks to all of you and your help getting this resolved. It's amazing what you learn when stuff goes haywire. BTW: the dns issues were related to csocs.com being expired and the nameservers giving out old information. NSI has corrected this problem also and should be fixed in 24-48 hours (one of their nice billing techs misapplied funds). Thanks again. J.C. Frazier J & C Frazier wrote: > I recently tried to make some domain modifications with Network > Solutions. > I complete the process successfully and it states it has sent the form > to the > e-mail address I've specified. Unfortunately I don't get the mail. > I've called > them repeatedly and they say it's a problem with my mail settings. The > mail > never hits my box from what I've seen. Nothing in the logs and nothing > in > my /etc/hosts-allow. I can specify to send it to a yahoo or hotmail > account > and it will work, but any domain on this box, won't receive it. I was > wondering > if any of you knew another reason why mail from NSI won't hit sendmail. > It > appears all other mail goes through the box just fine. Thanks. > > J.C. Frazier > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 19 10:37:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from digitaldaemon.com (digitaldaemon.com [63.105.9.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E577D37B401 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 10:37:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 82985 invoked from network); 19 Jan 2001 18:35:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitaldaemon.com) (192.168.0.73) by jak.org with SMTP; 19 Jan 2001 18:35:09 -0000 Message-ID: <3A68891C.5080905@digitaldaemon.com> Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:36:12 -0500 From: Jan Knepper User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; m18) Gecko/20001108 Netscape6/6.0 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nicole Cc: Phillip Salzman , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Access statistics for apache References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080802070406080904060502" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------080802070406080904060502 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have you Linux Emulation installed? Jan Nicole wrote: > On 17-Jan-01 Phillip Salzman wrote: > >> You may also wish to look at Summary. It provides >> a lot of information. Http://www.summary.net/ >> > > I downloaded the summary linux binary, but everytime I trt to run it it > crashes.. I have Linux emulation turned on in rc.conf and in the kernel. > How did you manage to get it to work? is there something else I need to do? > > > Thanks > > Nicole > > > Core file says: > failed to map segment from shared object > cannot map file data > invalid ELF header > ELF file class not __ELF_WORDSIZE-bit > ELF file data encoding not little-endian > ELF file version ident not EV_CURRENT > ELF file version not EV_CURRENT > ELF file machine architecture not i386 > ELF file's phentsize not the expected size > cannot create shared object descriptor > ELF load command alignment not page-aligned > ELF load command address/offset not properly aligned > cannot change memory protections > cannot map zero-fill pages > object file has no dynamic section > > > > > >> --- >> Phillip Salzman >> phill@FreeBSD.Org >> http://www.sysctl.net/ |<- My Website. Are you scared yet? >> -------------------------------------------------------------- >> "If A equals success, then the formula is A = X + Y + Z. X is work. Y >> is play. Z is keep your mouth shut." >> -- Albert Einstein >> -------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Jan Knepper wrote: >> >>> Hii, >>> >>> Does any of you know about a package that does access statistics for apache? >>> Looking through the apache log files I would figure there is something >>> around,... >>> >>> Jan >>> >>> >>> >>> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >>> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > nicole@unixgirl.com |\ __ /| (`\ http://www.unixgirl.com/ > webmistress@dangermouse.org | o_o |__ ) ) http://www.dangermouse.org/ > nicole@deviantimages.com // \\ http://www.deviantimages.com/ > > ---------------------------(((---(((---------------------------------------- > > -- Powered by Coka-Cola and FreeBSD -- > -- I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble -- > -- Back Up My Hard Drive? I Can't Find The Reverse Switch! -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > --------------080802070406080904060502 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Have you Linux Emulation installed?

Jan



Nicole wrote:
On 17-Jan-01 Phillip Salzman wrote:
You may also wish to look at Summary.  It provides
a lot of information. Http://www.summary.net/


I downloaded the summary linux binary, but everytime I trt to run it it
crashes.. I have Linux emulation turned on in rc.conf and in the kernel.
How did you manage to get it to work? is there something else I need to do?


Thanks

Nicole


Core file says:
failed to map segment from shared object
cannot map file data
invalid ELF header
ELF file class not __ELF_WORDSIZE-bit
ELF file data encoding not little-endian
ELF file version ident not EV_CURRENT
ELF file version not EV_CURRENT
ELF file machine architecture not i386
ELF file's phentsize not the expected size
cannot create shared object descriptor
ELF load command alignment not page-aligned
ELF load command address/offset not properly aligned
cannot change memory protections
cannot map zero-fill pages
object file has no dynamic section





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http://www.sysctl.net/ |<- My Website. Are you scared yet?
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"If A equals success, then the formula is A = X + Y + Z. X is work. Y
is play. Z is keep your mouth shut."
-- Albert Einstein
--------------------------------------------------------------

On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Jan Knepper wrote:

Hii,

Does any of you know about a package that does access statistics for apache?
Looking through the apache log files I would figure there is something
around,...

Jan



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--------------080802070406080904060502-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 19 12:17:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from andcoke.aeon.networktel.net (andcoke.aeon.networktel.net [216.83.238.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD9E937B400 for ; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 12:17:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (phill@localhost) by andcoke.aeon.networktel.net (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f0JKIHN42250; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:18:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from phill@freebsd.org) X-Authentication-Warning: andcoke.aeon.networktel.net: phill owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 14:18:17 -0600 (CST) From: Phillip Salzman X-Sender: phill@andcoke.aeon.networktel.net To: Nicole Cc: Phillip Salzman , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, Jan Knepper Subject: Re: Access statistics for apache In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm running it on a 3.4-STABLE machine. linux.ko is loaded after boot, and not statically built in the kernel. I had to do a 'brandelf -t Linux summary' before running it. You may want to try that. --- Phillip Salzman phill@FreeBSD.Org http://www.sysctl.net/ |<- My Website. Are you scared yet? -------------------------------------------------------------- "If A equals success, then the formula is A = X + Y + Z. X is work. Y is play. Z is keep your mouth shut." -- Albert Einstein -------------------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Nicole wrote: > > On 17-Jan-01 Phillip Salzman wrote: > > You may also wish to look at Summary. It provides > > a lot of information. Http://www.summary.net/ > > > > I downloaded the summary linux binary, but everytime I trt to run it it > crashes.. I have Linux emulation turned on in rc.conf and in the kernel. > How did you manage to get it to work? is there something else I need to do? > > > Thanks > > Nicole > > > Core file says: > failed to map segment from shared object > cannot map file data > invalid ELF header > ELF file class not __ELF_WORDSIZE-bit > ELF file data encoding not little-endian > ELF file version ident not EV_CURRENT > ELF file version not EV_CURRENT > ELF file machine architecture not i386 > ELF file's phentsize not the expected size > cannot create shared object descriptor > ELF load command alignment not page-aligned > ELF load command address/offset not properly aligned > cannot change memory protections > cannot map zero-fill pages > object file has no dynamic section > > > > > > > --- > > Phillip Salzman > > phill@FreeBSD.Org > > http://www.sysctl.net/ |<- My Website. Are you scared yet? > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > "If A equals success, then the formula is A = X + Y + Z. X is work. Y > > is play. Z is keep your mouth shut." > > -- Albert Einstein > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Jan Knepper wrote: > > > >> Hii, > >> > >> Does any of you know about a package that does access statistics for apache? > >> Looking through the apache log files I would figure there is something > >> around,... > >> > >> Jan > >> > >> > >> > >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > nicole@unixgirl.com |\ __ /| (`\ http://www.unixgirl.com/ > webmistress@dangermouse.org | o_o |__ ) ) http://www.dangermouse.org/ > nicole@deviantimages.com // \\ http://www.deviantimages.com/ > > ---------------------------(((---(((---------------------------------------- > > -- Powered by Coka-Cola and FreeBSD -- > -- I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble -- > -- Back Up My Hard Drive? I Can't Find The Reverse Switch! -- > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Jan 19 13:46:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from krell.webweaver.net (krell.webweaver.net [64.124.90.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D044237B400; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:46:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from xwin.nmhtech.com (xwin.daemontech.net [208.138.46.161]) by krell.webweaver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 580DD20F04; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:46:30 -0800 (PST) Content-Length: 4018 Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 13:46:30 -0800 (PST) From: Hodge Podge To: Phillip Salzman Subject: Re: Access statistics for apache Cc: Jan Knepper , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, Phillip Salzman Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 19-Jan-01 Phillip Salzman wrote: > I'm running it on a 3.4-STABLE machine. linux.ko is loaded > after boot, and not statically built in the kernel. > > I had to do a 'brandelf -t Linux summary' before running it. > You may want to try that. > Ha ha!!! Yes that did it.. The O'l brand elf.. I forgot abt that.. Thanks! Nicole > --- > Phillip Salzman > phill@FreeBSD.Org > http://www.sysctl.net/ |<- My Website. Are you scared yet? > -------------------------------------------------------------- > "If A equals success, then the formula is A = X + Y + Z. X is work. Y > is play. Z is keep your mouth shut." > -- Albert Einstein > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > On Thu, 18 Jan 2001, Nicole wrote: > >> >> On 17-Jan-01 Phillip Salzman wrote: >> > You may also wish to look at Summary. It provides >> > a lot of information. Http://www.summary.net/ >> > >> >> I downloaded the summary linux binary, but everytime I trt to run it it >> crashes.. I have Linux emulation turned on in rc.conf and in the kernel. >> How did you manage to get it to work? is there something else I need to do? >> >> >> Thanks >> >> Nicole >> >> >> Core file says: >> failed to map segment from shared object >> cannot map file data >> invalid ELF header >> ELF file class not __ELF_WORDSIZE-bit >> ELF file data encoding not little-endian >> ELF file version ident not EV_CURRENT >> ELF file version not EV_CURRENT >> ELF file machine architecture not i386 >> ELF file's phentsize not the expected size >> cannot create shared object descriptor >> ELF load command alignment not page-aligned >> ELF load command address/offset not properly aligned >> cannot change memory protections >> cannot map zero-fill pages >> object file has no dynamic section >> >> >> >> >> >> > --- >> > Phillip Salzman >> > phill@FreeBSD.Org >> > http://www.sysctl.net/ |<- My Website. Are you scared yet? >> > -------------------------------------------------------------- >> > "If A equals success, then the formula is A = X + Y + Z. X is work. Y >> > is play. Z is keep your mouth shut." >> > -- Albert Einstein >> > -------------------------------------------------------------- >> > >> > On Wed, 17 Jan 2001, Jan Knepper wrote: >> > >> >> Hii, >> >> >> >> Does any of you know about a package that does access statistics for >> >> apache? >> >> Looking through the apache log files I would figure there is something >> >> around,... >> >> >> >> Jan >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >> >> nicole@unixgirl.com |\ __ /| (`\ http://www.unixgirl.com/ >> webmistress@dangermouse.org | o_o |__ ) ) http://www.dangermouse.org/ >> nicole@deviantimages.com // \\ http://www.deviantimages.com/ >> >> ---------------------------(((---(((---------------------------------------- >> >> -- Powered by Coka-Cola and FreeBSD -- >> -- I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble -- >> -- Back Up My Hard Drive? I Can't Find The Reverse Switch! -- >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> nicole@unixgirl.com |\ __ /| (`\ http://www.unixgirl.com/ webmistress@dangermouse.org | o_o |__ ) ) http://www.dangermouse.org/ nicole@deviantimages.com // \\ http://www.deviantimages.com/ ---------------------------(((---(((---------------------------------------- -- Powered by Coka-Cola and FreeBSD -- -- I don't speak for anybody but myself - that's enough trouble -- -- Back Up My Hard Drive? 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I'm a little confused as to why PacBell doesn't resolve for >csocs.com. Maybe that NS isn't set up to do recursive queries and its not authoritative for csocs.com so won't answer for it?? Len http://BIND8NT.MEIway.com : Binary for ISC BIND 8.2.3 T9B for NT4 & W2K http://IMGate.MEIway.com : Build free, hi-perf, anti-spam mail gateways To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 20 0:40: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [212.73.210.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87CF737B401 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 00:39:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from sv.Go2France.com (sv.meiway.com [212.73.210.79]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 64BE16A906; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:39:49 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010120091739.057c9130@mail.Go2France.com> X-Sender: lconrad%Go2France.com@mail.Go2France.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:38:21 +0100 To: J & C Frazier From: Len Conrad Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3A67BEC9.7EC2D187@csocs.com> References: <3A60EE08.3C9CD7AF@csocs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >It's amazing what you learn when stuff goes haywire. BTW: the dns issues were >related to csocs.com being expired and the nameservers giving out >old information. hmmm, nope. csocs.com's glue records are, 09:30 French time 2000-01-20, in the root-servers.net but none of the answer authoritatively for the zone. That's not NSI's or anybody's pb but the NS's. >NSI has corrected this problem also and should be >fixed in 24-48 hours (one of their nice billing techs misapplied funds). >Thanks again. I don't think your amazement and learning is over, yet. DNS Expert Pro will not even analyze the csocs.com zone because no NS is answering authoritatively for the zone. ie, the haywireness is in the NS's and not in NSI, not in upstream links. This has absolutley nothing all to do with NSI, as long as NSI has not pulled the glue records from the roots. 99% of the time, absence of the 'aa' flags means that the zone file has syntax errors. In this query: # dig +norec @NS.csocs.com csocs.com soa ; <<>> DiG 8.2 <<>> +norec @NS.csocs.com csocs.com soa ; (1 server found) ;; res options: init defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 34418 ;; flags: qr ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUERY SECTION: ;; csocs.com, type = SOA, class = IN ;; ANSWER SECTION: csocs.com. 1H IN SOA ns.csocs.com. root.ns.csocs.com. ( 78 ; serial 1H ; refresh 15M ; retry 5w6d16h ; expiry 1H ) ; minimum ... ns.csocs.com should answer authoritatively, but it doesn't. Forget about billing, NSI, upstreams, etc, and fix your zone file(s), esp start with the master NS, if you run one master and the others as slaves for csocs.com. Len http://BIND8NT.MEIway.com : Binary for ISC BIND 8.2.3 T9B for NT4 & W2K http://IMGate.MEIway.com : Build free, hi-perf, anti-spam mail gateways To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 20 9:49:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from dsl.MexComUSA.net (adsl-63-200-120-86.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.200.120.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CA037B401 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:49:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by dsl.MexComUSA.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f0KHiWu28401; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:44:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Received: from 63.200.120.86 ( [63.200.120.86]) as user eculp@EnContacto.Net by Mail.MexComUSA.net with HTTP; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:44:32 -0800 Message-ID: <980012672.3a69ce80d50b5@Mail.MexComUSA.net> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 09:44:32 -0800 From: Edwin Culp To: J & C Frazier , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with sendmail and NSI References: <3A60EE08.3C9CD7AF@csocs.com> <5.0.2.1.0.20010120091739.057c9130@mail.Go2France.com> In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010120091739.057c9130@mail.Go2France.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 2.3.6-cvs Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Amen. Quoting Len Conrad : > > >It's amazing what you learn when stuff goes haywire. BTW: the dns issues > were > >related to csocs.com being expired and the nameservers giving out > >old information. > > hmmm, nope. csocs.com's glue records are, 09:30 French time > 2000-01-20, in the root-servers.net but none of the answer > authoritatively for the zone. That's not NSI's or anybody's pb but the > NS's. > > >NSI has corrected this problem also and should be > >fixed in 24-48 hours (one of their nice billing techs misapplied funds). > >Thanks again. > > I don't think your amazement and learning is over, yet. > > DNS Expert Pro will not even analyze the csocs.com zone because no NS > is answering authoritatively for the zone. ie, the haywireness is in > the NS's and not in NSI, not in upstream links. > > This has absolutley nothing all to do with NSI, as long as NSI has > not pulled the glue records from the roots. 99% of the time, absence > of the 'aa' flags means that the zone file has syntax errors. > > In this query: > > # dig +norec @NS.csocs.com csocs.com soa > > ; <<>> DiG 8.2 <<>> +norec @NS.csocs.com csocs.com soa > ; (1 server found) > ;; res options: init defnam dnsrch > ;; got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 34418 > ;; flags: qr ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 > ;; QUERY SECTION: > ;; csocs.com, type = SOA, class = IN > > ;; ANSWER SECTION: > csocs.com. 1H IN SOA ns.csocs.com. root.ns.csocs.com. ( > 78 ; serial > 1H ; refresh > 15M ; retry > 5w6d16h ; expiry > 1H ) ; minimum > > ... ns.csocs.com should answer authoritatively, but it > doesn't. Forget about billing, NSI, upstreams, etc, and fix your > zone file(s), esp start with the master NS, if you run one master and > the others as slaves for csocs.com. > > Len > > > > http://BIND8NT.MEIway.com : Binary for ISC BIND 8.2.3 T9B for NT4 & W2K > http://IMGate.MEIway.com : Build free, hi-perf, anti-spam mail gateways > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > -- EnContacto.Net - InternetSalon.Org - CafeMania.Net -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 20 12:25: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from arthur.tacni.net (unknown [216.178.136.167]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F102B37B400 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 12:24:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 24224 invoked from network); 20 Jan 2001 20:24:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO tacni.com) (204.155.159.85) by 216.178.136.162 with SMTP; 20 Jan 2001 20:24:42 -0000 Message-ID: <3A69F410.819111B4@tacni.com> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 14:24:48 -0600 From: Tom ONeil Organization: Texas American Communications X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Free Subject: FTP extremely slow Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings All, and thanks for the help over the years. We just put in a new 4.1.1 STABLE box, using a Accton MPX 5030/5038 10/100BaseTX NIC hard-coded to 100 like so : ifconfig_rl0="inet XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX netmask 255.255.255.224 media 100baseTX" using proftpd fm /usr/ports - ProFTPD Version 1.2.0 DNS is working properly -no obvious problems from dig. Transfer completed: 1 259520 bytes in 61.54 seconds. Any pointers? Anywhere? -- Thomas J. ONeil tom.oneil@tacni.net http://www.tacni.net/ "Fast access, low prices, no contracts" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 20 13:53:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsd.amplex.net (bsd.amplex.net [209.57.124.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26F6537B401 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 13:53:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from rack0.amplex.net (rack0.amplex.net [207.206.65.182]) by bsd.amplex.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f0KLrFx65334; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 16:53:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by rack0.amplex.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f0KLr9C20655; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 16:53:09 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mark@amplex.net) To: Tom ONeil Subject: Re: FTP extremely slow Message-ID: <980027589.3a6a08c56414e@webmail.amplex.net> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 16:53:09 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Radabaugh Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <3A69F410.819111B4@tacni.com> In-Reply-To: <3A69F410.819111B4@tacni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 209.57.221.83 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoting Tom ONeil : > > Greetings All, and thanks for the help over the years. > > We just put in a new 4.1.1 STABLE box, using a Accton MPX 5030/5038 > 10/100BaseTX > NIC hard-coded to 100 like so : > ifconfig_rl0="inet XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX netmask 255.255.255.224 media > 100baseTX" > > using proftpd fm /usr/ports - ProFTPD Version 1.2.0 > > DNS is working properly -no obvious problems from dig. > > > Transfer completed: 1 > 259520 bytes in 61.54 seconds. > > Any pointers? Anywhere? > > > -- > Thomas J. ONeil tom.oneil@tacni.net > http://www.tacni.net/ > "Fast access, low prices, no contracts" > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > Check the Full Duplex / Half Duplex setting - I have seen that get mangled before with similar results. Try hardcoding it both ways and see what happens. Mark Radabaugh VP, Amplex (419) 833-3635 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 20 13:53:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsd.amplex.net (bsd.amplex.net [209.57.124.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B25637B402 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 13:53:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from rack0.amplex.net (rack0.amplex.net [207.206.65.182]) by bsd.amplex.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f0KLrFx65333; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 16:53:15 -0500 (EST) Received: (from nobody@localhost) by rack0.amplex.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f0KLrDY20657; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 16:53:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mark@amplex.net) To: Tom ONeil Subject: Re: FTP extremely slow Message-ID: <980027593.3a6a08c9c8313@webmail.amplex.net> Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 16:53:13 -0500 (EST) From: Mark Radabaugh Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <3A69F410.819111B4@tacni.com> In-Reply-To: <3A69F410.819111B4@tacni.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.3 X-Originating-IP: 209.57.221.83 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoting Tom ONeil : > > Greetings All, and thanks for the help over the years. > > We just put in a new 4.1.1 STABLE box, using a Accton MPX 5030/5038 > 10/100BaseTX > NIC hard-coded to 100 like so : > ifconfig_rl0="inet XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX netmask 255.255.255.224 media > 100baseTX" > > using proftpd fm /usr/ports - ProFTPD Version 1.2.0 > > DNS is working properly -no obvious problems from dig. > > > Transfer completed: 1 > 259520 bytes in 61.54 seconds. > > Any pointers? Anywhere? > > > -- > Thomas J. ONeil tom.oneil@tacni.net > http://www.tacni.net/ > "Fast access, low prices, no contracts" > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > Check the Full Duplex / Half Duplex setting - I have seen that get mangled before with similar results. Try hardcoding it both ways and see what happens. Mark Radabaugh VP, Amplex (419) 833-3635 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Jan 20 15:55:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [204.244.213.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 916DB37B401 for ; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 15:54:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14K78T-00029c-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sat, 20 Jan 2001 15:09:29 -0800 Date: Sat, 20 Jan 2001 15:09:28 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: SNMP/network monitorable dry contact alarm interfaces? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is somewhat off-topic... Anyone know of a box that I can use to monitor dry contact alarm interfaces via an SNMP interface? Basically a box with a terminal strip for the contacts, and an ethernet port for SNMP. If it could send SNMP traps if alarms are tripped that would be even better. Such a device would be very nice in order to monitor things like door contacts, fire alarms, fuse alarms etc. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message