From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 4 10:11:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B896337B67D for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 10:11:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by mercury.jorsm.com (Postfix, from userid 101) id 8EDB9E4A74; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 12:11:37 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.jorsm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85788E0C2C for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 12:11:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 12:11:37 -0600 (CST) From: Jeff Lynch To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: simple FreeBSD shaper questions :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Andy Dills wrote: > better than ipfw. You should try both before comitting to the $600 he > charges. The guy who runs Etinc is an asshole of legendary proportions, > just search inet-access archives. > > Andy Just another data point, not to debunk Andy's opinion as we are all entitled our own. But, I've never had any problems with Dennis. Great products, we still have some in our network eventhough we've standardized on Cisco (hardware costs less than experienced unix networking people, IMHO). Dennis's stuff works and works well, but you have to be at a certain level to be able to use them and receive the small amount of help the experienced unix professional might need. Touchy warm, fuzzys are not included in the Etinc purchase price. The people who tend to complain loudest about Dennis are those who don't know how to hack the kernel or properly set up a *nix-like box to route. Most people see a very low cost alternative to build a very powerful router and get in over their heads trying to make it work--it's more like miss-matched expectations than a poor company or person at the helm. Those with personal grudges against Dennis may wish to debunk my humble opinion. Flame on. --jeff ============================================================================ Jeffrey A. Lynch | JORSM Internet, Regional Internet Services email: jeff@jorsm.com | 7 Area Codes in Chicagoland and NW Indiana Voice: (219)322-2180 | 100Mbps+ Connectivity, 56K-DS3, V.90, ISDN Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com | Quality Service, Affordable Prices http://www.jorsm.com | Serving Gov, Biz, Residential Since 1995 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 4 15:18:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from marvin.trident-uk.co.uk (mail.trident-uk.co.uk [195.166.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5D3137B401 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 15:18:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.trident-uk.co.uk ([194.207.93.139]) by marvin.trident-uk.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f14NFSZ65194 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 23:15:28 GMT Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 23:30:59 +0000 From: Jamie Heckford To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: diverting incoming packets Message-ID: <20010204233059.D5290@freefire.trident-uk.co.uk> Reply-To: heckfordj@psi-domain.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.0 Lines: 26 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, im trying to do something like this.. heres the english version redirect all incoming packets to port 25 from any to 192.168.0.6 port 25 whats the ipfw syntax for this plz. ??? I am running natd cheers -- Jamie Heckford Chief Network Engineer Psi-Domain - Innovative Linux Solutions. Ask Us How. ===================================== email: heckfordj@psi-domain.co.uk web: http://www.psi-domain.co.uk/ tel: +44 (0)1737 789 246 fax: +44 (0)1737 789 245 mobile: +44 (0)7866 724 224 ===================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 4 15:58:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sixpence.mtcibs.com (sixpence.solveinteractive.com [204.62.227.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 349A237B401 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 15:57:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from gold.mtcibs.com (gold [204.62.225.30]) by sixpence.mtcibs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA09049; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 18:57:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinity.solveinteractive.com (trinity.solveinteractive.com [204.62.225.170]) by gold.mtcibs.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA16196; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 18:57:40 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rch@localhost) by trinity.solveinteractive.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f14Nwjl61492; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 18:58:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rch@solveinteractive.com) Date: Sun, 4 Feb 2001 18:58:45 -0500 From: Robert Hough To: Jamie Heckford Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: diverting incoming packets Message-ID: <20010204185845.A61368@solveinteractive.com> Reply-To: rch@solveinteractive.com References: <20010204233059.D5290@freefire.trident-uk.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010204233059.D5290@freefire.trident-uk.co.uk> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jamie Heckford [heckfordj@psi-domain.co.uk] wrote: > > redirect all incoming packets to port 25 from any to 192.168.0.6 port 25 ipfw add divert 25 ip from any to 192.168.0.6 This might be wrong, but sounds right. :) I would read the ipfw man page if I were you though, I'm sure it has the correct syntax. -- Robert Hough (rch@solveinteractive.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Feb 4 16:37:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (ftp.golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB03B37B401 for ; Sun, 4 Feb 2001 16:37:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id ebcaaaaa for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:36:50 +1100 Message-ID: <3A7DF5E9.B660183B@quake.com.au> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 11:38:01 +1100 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rch@solveinteractive.com Cc: Jamie Heckford , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: diverting incoming packets References: <20010204233059.D5290@freefire.trident-uk.co.uk> <20010204185845.A61368@solveinteractive.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Robert Hough wrote: > > Jamie Heckford [heckfordj@psi-domain.co.uk] wrote: > > > > redirect all incoming packets to port 25 from any to 192.168.0.6 port 25 > > ipfw add divert 25 ip from any to 192.168.0.6 > > This might be wrong, but sounds right. :) I would read the ipfw > man page if I were you though, I'm sure it has the correct syntax. It is wrong :) Besides the fact that divert is for something else and you meant to say fwd, but even that is wrong in this case because he said he was using natd.. So the correct answer in this case is to do this with natd... You could do this several ways, but the best I think is to make a config file for natd... In /etc/rc.conf put a line saying: natd_flags="-config /etc/natd.conf" Or where and what ever you want to call the config file... Then put all the options you want in the config, each on a new line... To do the redirecting you want to put lines in there saying: redirect_port tcp 192.168.0.6:25 25 If you want to redirect more than tcp traffic, just add more lines with the protocol you want to redirect... AFAIK you cant redirect ALL ip connection on a specific port, because ip doesnt have ports, its the protocols above it that deal with that... Hope this makes sense :) Kal. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 5 7:51: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from polaris.canweb.ca (polaris.canweb.ca [204.225.44.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D2A237B67D; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 07:50:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (david@localhost) by polaris.canweb.ca (8.8.8/8.8.7) with SMTP id KAA11200; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 10:50:43 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from david@canweb.ca) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 10:50:42 -0500 (EST) From: David Grant To: Doug Barton Cc: Free Subject: Re: 2U server choice - experience/suggestions? In-Reply-To: <3A73D05B.262BC974@FreeBSD.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 27 Jan 2001, Doug Barton wrote: > We've had good luck with the ISP 2150's. ... > Has anyone tried the ISP 2150G's? Anyone know what the differences are? (Passive riser I think for one, and a couple of hundred bucks :) Are the original ISP 2150's now an 'end of life' product? Thanks, Dave --------- David Grant CanWeb Internet Services Ltd. 519 332 6900 http://www.canweb.ca FAX 519 332 6464 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 5 9: 7: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.hiwaay.net (fly.HiWAAY.net [208.147.154.56]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBA3F37B401 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 09:06:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from dorado.freebsd.org (user-24-214-88-8.knology.net [24.214.88.8]) by mail.hiwaay.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f15H6ko20059 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:06:47 -0600 (CST) Received: (from steve@localhost) by dorado.freebsd.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f15H6kw13955 for isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:06:46 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:06:19 -0600 From: Steve Price To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: hosting a .biz domain Message-ID: <20010205110619.B88297@dorado.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just curious if there were any gotchas to hosting a .biz domain on a FreeBSD box. I can't think of any reason why it would be any different than any other TLD but I thought I'd ask just to be safe. Thanks. -steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 5 9:10:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ra.upan.org (ra.upan.org [204.107.76.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2544D37B401; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 09:09:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from ocsinternet.com (localhost.upan.org [127.0.0.1]) by ra.upan.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f15HAxn49690; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:10:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mikel@ocsinternet.com) Message-ID: <3A7EDEA2.90E4B67F@ocsinternet.com> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 12:10:59 -0500 From: Mikel King Organization: OCS Internet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steve Price Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hosting a .biz domain References: <20010205110619.B88297@dorado.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Once it's published it should ok. It's just another tld.... Cheers, mikel Steve Price wrote: > Just curious if there were any gotchas to hosting a .biz domain > on a FreeBSD box. I can't think of any reason why it would be > any different than any other TLD but I thought I'd ask just to > be safe. > > Thanks. > > -steve > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 5 10:44:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sgi04-e.std.COM (sgi04-e.std.com [199.172.62.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D6DA37B401; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 10:44:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from world.std.com (world-f.std.com [199.172.62.5]) by sgi04-e.std.COM (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA976759; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:38:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (brunner@localhost) by world.std.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id NAA01100; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:44:06 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200102051844.NAA01100@world.std.com> X-Authentication-Warning: world.std.com: brunner@localhost didn't use HELO protocol To: Mikel King Cc: Steve Price , isp@FreeBSD.ORG, brunner@world.std.com Subject: Re: hosting a .biz domain In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 05 Feb 2001 12:10:59 EST." <3A7EDEA2.90E4B67F@ocsinternet.com> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 13:44:05 -0500 From: Eric Brunner Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Correct. As with the existing gTLDs, the "retail" (Registrant) access will be with one or more (ICANN and .BIZ Registry certified) Registrars, or any reseller of same. See the Registrar of your choice for details, in some months. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 5 11:42: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D991237B491 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 11:41:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from dbsys.etinc.com (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA25030 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 14:46:44 GMT (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20010205144032.0215a9b0@mail.etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@mail.etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 14:51:14 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Dennis Subject: Re: simple FreeBSD shaper questions :) In-Reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 01:11 PM 02/04/2001, Jeff Lynch wrote: >On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Andy Dills wrote: > > > better than ipfw. You should try both before comitting to the $600 he > > charges. The guy who runs Etinc is an asshole of legendary proportions, > > just search inet-access archives. > > > > Andy > >Just another data point, not to debunk Andy's opinion as we are all >entitled our own. But, I've never had any problems with Dennis. Great >products, we still have some in our network eventhough we've standardized >on Cisco (hardware costs less than experienced unix networking people, >IMHO). Dennis's stuff works and works well, but you have to be at a >certain level to be able to use them and receive the small amount of help >the experienced unix professional might need. Touchy warm, fuzzys are not >included in the Etinc purchase price. The people who tend to complain >loudest about Dennis are those who don't know how to hack the kernel or >properly set up a *nix-like box to route. Most people see a very low cost >alternative to build a very powerful router and get in over their heads >trying to make it work--it's more like miss-matched expectations than >a poor company or person at the helm. Andy is peeved that I wouldnt give him a license without payment because the "guy with the credit card was out playing golf" and they couldnt do without bandwidth shaping until he got back. So, if I won't break very clearly defined and understood rules for you, Im a "legendary asshole". So be it. Dont expect any "special" treatment and you'll be just fine. We're running a business here, not selling tee shirts from a shopping cart outside of Yankee Stadium. We have a free demo, try it. Listen to other people and you are getting a lot of gibberish out of context. Dennis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 5 12:25:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from post.xecu.net (post.xecu.net [216.127.136.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2BA037B491 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 12:24:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from shell.xecu.net (shell.xecu.net [216.127.136.216]) by post.xecu.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50010479B; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:20:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by shell.xecu.net (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id PAA23330; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:24:54 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: shell.xecu.net: andy owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:24:54 -0500 (EST) From: Andy Dills To: Dennis Cc: Subject: Re: simple FreeBSD shaper questions :) In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20010205144032.0215a9b0@mail.etinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Dennis wrote: > Andy is peeved that I wouldnt give him a license without payment because > the "guy with the credit card was out playing golf" and they couldnt do > without bandwidth shaping until he got back. That's bullshit, plain and simple. I was pissed because you wouldn't take the type of credit card (Amex, I believe) that we had. You have since changed that policy, which is good for you. Anyways, you wouldn't take that card, and wouldn't agree to any sort of arrangement we offered, including direct wire transfer. You basically said "fuck you I don't want your money". So now, and for the rest of time, I'm going to let everybody know that you feel that the customer is not important, and you are not motivated by their money. This was three years ago; do you really think I'm vindictive enough to continue this to try to hurt you? No, this is an honest attempt to educate your potential customers that you don't give a rats ass. You might have some decent products, and you probably happily support people (although there are many stories about how you left people hanging), but the bottom line is that to you, the customer is _not_ first. People should know this. > So, if I won't break very clearly defined and understood rules for you, Im > a "legendary asshole". So be it. No, you're a legendary asshole because of your personality. Like I said, just search for dennis@etinc.com in inet-access archives and laugh. I think you even unsubscribed it got so bad. Or at least, you were beaten into submission. > Dont expect any "special" treatment and you'll be just fine. We're running > a business here, not selling tee shirts from a shopping cart outside of > Yankee Stadium. Special treatment? Trying to give you money for a product is special treatment? > We have a free demo, try it. Listen to other people and you are getting a > lot of gibberish out of context. You're right on this note, and this is exactly what I said. Try it. But also try the built-in limiting with ipfw before you buy. Andy xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Andy Dills 301-682-9972 Xecunet, LLC www.xecu.net xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Dialup * Webhosting * E-Commerce * High-Speed Access To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 5 13:36:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from london.physics.purdue.edu (london.physics.purdue.edu [128.210.67.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D845337B4EC for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 13:36:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from will@localhost) by london.physics.purdue.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA10081; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 16:36:17 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: london.physics.purdue.edu: will set sender to will@physics.purdue.edu using -f Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 16:36:17 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Andy Dills Cc: Dennis , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: simple FreeBSD shaper questions :) Message-ID: <20010205163617.C21134@london.physics.purdue.edu> Reply-To: Will Andrews References: <5.0.0.25.0.20010205144032.0215a9b0@mail.etinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from andy@xecu.net on Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 03:24:54PM -0500 X-Operating-System: SunOS 4.1.3_U1 sun4m Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 03:24:54PM -0500, Andy Dills wrote: > > Andy is peeved that I wouldnt give him a license without payment because > > the "guy with the credit card was out playing golf" and they couldnt do > > without bandwidth shaping until he got back. [... flaming ...] Guys, that's enough. I really don't give a flying rat's ass about either of your problems, and I suspect nobody else here does either. Thanks for your understanding. -- wca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 5 14:59:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C80737B69E for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 14:59:10 -0800 (PST) Received: from dbsys.etinc.com (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA26490; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:04:04 GMT (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20010205175710.02a1baa0@mail.etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@mail.etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 18:08:31 -0500 To: Will Andrews From: Dennis Subject: Re: simple FreeBSD shaper questions :) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20010205163617.C21134@london.physics.purdue.edu> References: <5.0.0.25.0.20010205144032.0215a9b0@mail.etinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 04:36 PM 02/05/2001, Will Andrews wrote: >On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 03:24:54PM -0500, Andy Dills wrote: > > > Andy is peeved that I wouldnt give him a license without payment because > > > the "guy with the credit card was out playing golf" and they couldnt do > > > without bandwidth shaping until he got back. >[... flaming ...] > >Guys, that's enough. I really don't give a flying rat's ass about either >of your problems, and I suspect nobody else here does either. Someone asked about the product, so at least one person does, and thats enough. When some irate ex-customer blabs garbage out of context an explanation is warranted. These lists get archived, and people rely on them. We cant have cry-babies like andy dills airing his frustration effecting how people make decisions on how they run their businesses. DB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 5 15: 5:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74BB937B4EC for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:05:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from dbsys.etinc.com (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA26525; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:10:07 GMT (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20010205180857.02a1b3e0@mail.etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@mail.etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 18:14:34 -0500 To: Andy Dills From: Dennis Subject: Re: simple FreeBSD shaper questions :) Cc: In-Reply-To: References: <5.0.0.25.0.20010205144032.0215a9b0@mail.etinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 03:24 PM 02/05/2001, Andy Dills wrote: >On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Dennis wrote: > > > Andy is peeved that I wouldnt give him a license without payment because > > the "guy with the credit card was out playing golf" and they couldnt do > > without bandwidth shaping until he got back. > >That's bullshit, plain and simple. I was pissed because you wouldn't take >the type of credit card (Amex, I believe) that we had. You have since >changed that policy, Yes, thats right, the guy with the "AMEX" was out playing golf, and we didnt accept VISA at the time. It wasnt a "policy", we didnt have a VISA vendor account. You cant just take any card without a merchant account. So Im a "legendary asshole" because my company didnt accept VISA at the time? That puts it into perspective. But then again, you knew that beforehand. DB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 5 15:30:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC0F837B698 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:29:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from london.physics.purdue.edu (london.physics.purdue.edu [128.210.67.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292706E2623 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:29:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (from will@localhost) by london.physics.purdue.edu (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA15398; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:28:41 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: london.physics.purdue.edu: will set sender to will@physics.purdue.edu using -f Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:28:40 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Dennis Cc: Andy Dills , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: simple FreeBSD shaper questions :) Message-ID: <20010205182840.E21134@london.physics.purdue.edu> Reply-To: Will Andrews References: <5.0.0.25.0.20010205144032.0215a9b0@mail.etinc.com> <5.0.0.25.0.20010205180857.02a1b3e0@mail.etinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20010205180857.02a1b3e0@mail.etinc.com>; from dennis@etinc.com on Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 06:14:34PM -0500 X-Operating-System: SunOS 4.1.3_U1 sun4m Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 06:14:34PM -0500, Dennis wrote: > So Im a "legendary asshole" because my company didnt accept VISA at the > time? That puts it into perspective. But then again, you knew that beforehand. Please stop this. This whole thread makes all of you look immature. -- wca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 5 15:33:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from anaconda.acceleratedweb.net (anaconda.acceleratedweb.net [209.51.164.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E68437B69F for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:33:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 99400 invoked by uid 106); 5 Feb 2001 23:38:34 -0000 Received: from 66-65-36-21.nyc.rr.com (HELO sharky) (66.65.36.21) by anaconda.acceleratedweb.net with SMTP; 5 Feb 2001 23:38:34 -0000 From: "Simon" To: "freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG" Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 18:37:43 -0500 Reply-To: "Simon" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195) In-Reply-To: <20010205182840.E21134@london.physics.purdue.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: simple FreeBSD shaper questions :) Message-Id: <20010205233316.0E68437B69F@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org w00f w00f who let the dogs out w00f w00f On Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:28:40 -0500, Will Andrews wrote: >On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 06:14:34PM -0500, Dennis wrote: >> So Im a "legendary asshole" because my company didnt accept VISA at the >> time? That puts it into perspective. But then again, you knew that beforehand. > >Please stop this. This whole thread makes all of you look immature. > >-- >wca > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 5 16: 6:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2B137B684 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 16:06:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from dbsys.etinc.com (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA27097; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 19:11:08 GMT (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20010205191034.034e8640@mail.etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@mail.etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 19:15:35 -0500 To: Will Andrews From: Dennis Subject: Re: simple FreeBSD shaper questions :) Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20010205182840.E21134@london.physics.purdue.edu> References: <5.0.0.25.0.20010205180857.02a1b3e0@mail.etinc.com> <5.0.0.25.0.20010205144032.0215a9b0@mail.etinc.com> <5.0.0.25.0.20010205180857.02a1b3e0@mail.etinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 06:28 PM 02/05/2001, Will Andrews wrote: >On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 06:14:34PM -0500, Dennis wrote: > > So Im a "legendary asshole" because my company didnt accept VISA at the > > time? That puts it into perspective. But then again, you knew that > beforehand. > >Please stop this. This whole thread makes all of you look immature. Stay out of this fart-head. This doesnt concern you. :-) Dennis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 5 17: 9:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.mauigateway.com (mail.mauigateway.com [205.166.249.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83A5A37B6A2 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 17:09:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mauigateway.com (mgate-206.mauigateway.com [205.166.249.206]) by mail.mauigateway.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA25857 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 15:23:38 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from sysop@mauigateway.com) Message-ID: <3A7F4EB7.27636CB8@mauigateway.com> Date: Mon, 05 Feb 2001 15:09:11 -1000 From: George Fontaine Reply-To: sysop@mauigateway.com Organization: Maui Gateway X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en]C-CCK-MCD ezn/58/n (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: simple FreeBSD shaper questions :) References: <5.0.0.25.0.20010205180857.02a1b3e0@mail.etinc.com> <5.0.0.25.0.20010205144032.0215a9b0@mail.etinc.com> <5.0.0.25.0.20010205180857.02a1b3e0@mail.etinc.com> <5.0.0.25.0.20010205191034.034e8640@mail.etinc.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear List Manager: Can we ban this guy from the list? This dialog is very unprofessional. Dennis wrote: > At 06:28 PM 02/05/2001, Will Andrews wrote: > >On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 06:14:34PM -0500, Dennis wrote: > > > So Im a "legendary asshole" because my company didnt accept VISA at the > > > time? That puts it into perspective. But then again, you knew that > > beforehand. > > > >Please stop this. This whole thread makes all of you look immature. > > Stay out of this fart-head. This doesnt concern you. > > :-) > > Dennis > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 5 18:34:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from post.xecu.net (post.xecu.net [216.127.136.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14B5537B67D for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 18:34:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from shell.xecu.net (shell.xecu.net [216.127.136.216]) by post.xecu.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B7647B9; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:30:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (andy@localhost) by shell.xecu.net (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA17244; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:34:10 -0500 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: shell.xecu.net: andy owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:34:10 -0500 (EST) From: Andy Dills To: Dennis Cc: Will Andrews , Subject: Re: simple FreeBSD shaper questions :) In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20010205175710.02a1baa0@mail.etinc.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 5 Feb 2001, Dennis wrote: > Someone asked about the product, so at least one person does, and thats > enough. When some irate ex-customer blabs garbage out of context an > explanation is warranted. These lists get archived, and people rely on > them. We cant have cry-babies like andy dills airing his frustration > effecting how people make decisions on how they run their businesses. Well then, let's talk about how your bwmgr would hard-lock the kernel (under various hardware with various kernels and releases), whenever a rule was removed and readded with different bandwidth levels. It made the product pretty useless for a period of time, because that was the only way to adjust the bandwidth until you recently changed the behavior of "bwmgr add" to modify previous rules. No hardlocks under 4.2, I'll give you that. I hear good things about your T1 cards, but I have no experience with them. I hear mixed things and have mixed results about your bwmgr, although the product finally, after 3 years, seems to be production ready. However, ipfw replicates the core usage, and you can make your own mrtg graphs. However, buyer beware. It's pretty obvious what type of guy Dennis is. Andy xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Andy Dills 301-682-9972 Xecunet, LLC www.xecu.net xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Dialup * Webhosting * E-Commerce * High-Speed Access To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Feb 5 21:10:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (www.golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0B537B401 for ; Mon, 5 Feb 2001 21:10:38 -0800 (PST) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id tncaaaaa for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 16:10:10 +1100 Message-ID: <3A7F8773.90D0929C@quake.com.au> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 16:11:15 +1100 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Andy Dills Cc: Dennis , Will Andrews , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: simple FreeBSD shaper questions :) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org People, this has gone way off topic... The important thing is here, is if this product is good enough, stable enough, has the required features etc. to be worth the cost over just using built in parts of FreeBSD like ipfw etc... Many people do business with companys that have no so nice people in them, the fact is that not many people care about a companys "personality" its the product that matters! So instead of calling each other silly names, why not explain why, using solid facts one way is going to be better than the other? I am offended to think IT professionals would talk this way to each other, are we still in primary school here? Take your personal problems else where and stick to the information that people actually want to hear about... Feel free to continue your childish name calling privately but dont post it on the list where all the rest of us have to scroll though it as well... Thank you! Kal. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 6 6:13:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from orion.psknet.com (mail.psknet.com [63.171.251.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AA65F37B69E for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 06:12:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 53362 invoked from network); 6 Feb 2001 14:12:57 -0000 Received: from abyss.dashit.net (HELO ABYSS) (209.100.22.250) by mail.psknet.com with SMTP; 6 Feb 2001 14:12:57 -0000 From: "Troy Settle" To: Subject: RE: simple FreeBSD shaper questions :) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:12:57 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 In-Reply-To: <3A7F4EB7.27636CB8@mauigateway.com> X-AntiVirus: scanned for viruses by Pulaski Networks (http://www.psknet.com) using AMaViS (http://www.amavis.org) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org George, You've not been around very long I take it. In the 5 years I've been on various mailing lists, everytime someone mentions Dennis, a food fight ensues. Every single time, it's been a complete hoot. I actually enjoy these spats. I've not used Dennis' products, nor have I ever spoken with him. All I can say, is that the guy gets poked and prodded, retailiates, then gets flamed. No, his attitude isn't very professional, but obviously, his company is doing well enough for itself, else he wouldn't still be in business after all these years. [ from foggy memory ] The only really bad thing I've ever seen about Dennis or his company, was Dennis calling someone a theif because they needed a new license after swapping out ethernet cards (iirc, the bwmgr stuff locks into a specific MAC). The one simple solution that I didn't see publicly mentioned, was to send the old NIC in for Dennis to destroy. -- Troy Settle Pulaski Networks 540.994.4254 They told me to think out of the box, but I tripped over it, now I own my own company. ** -----Original Message----- ** From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG ** [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of George Fontaine ** Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 8:09 PM ** To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG ** Subject: Re: simple FreeBSD shaper questions :) ** ** ** Dear List Manager: ** ** Can we ban this guy from the list? This dialog is very unprofessional. ** ** ** Dennis wrote: ** ** > At 06:28 PM 02/05/2001, Will Andrews wrote: ** > >On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 06:14:34PM -0500, Dennis wrote: ** > > > So Im a "legendary asshole" because my company didnt ** accept VISA at the ** > > > time? That puts it into perspective. But then again, you knew that ** > > beforehand. ** > > ** > >Please stop this. This whole thread makes all of you look immature. ** > ** > Stay out of this fart-head. This doesnt concern you. ** > ** > :-) ** > ** > Dennis ** > ** > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ** > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ** ** ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org ** with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message ** ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 6 9:46: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sai.co.za (mail.sai.co.za [196.33.40.37]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3330137B65D for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:45:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from dave ([196.33.40.17]) by mail.sai.co.za (SBMail MTA v2.11(1115) SMTPD32) with ESMTP id AA9376; for ; Tue, 06 Feb 2001 19:42:11 0200 (South Africa Standard Time) From: "David Wilson" To: Cc: , Subject: Transparent proxying with delay pools based on IP precedence bit Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 19:42:56 +0200 Message-ID: <009901c09064$3e267150$112821c4@pmb.sai.co.za> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi guys, howzit going ? ;-) An nice juicy question: We are an ISP and we allocate our leased line clients subnets of IP's. At the moment we use a Packeteer traffic shaper to limit our each of clients international bandwidth to 16K international & 64K Local. The Packeteer is able to distinguish between local & international traffic because our bandwidth provider marks our incoming packets "precedence" fields of all international traffic with a "2" and all local traffic with a "0". Obviously because of this we cannot run a transparent Squid cache because it all allows our clients to request that our Cache fetches web content on behalf of each client, thus their HTTP traffic is not limited to that set by the Packeteer. To use transparent caching we need to setup "delay pools" in Squid that would limit each client to their allocated bandwidth, we also need Squid to distinguish between local & international traffic by looking at the "precedence" fields in each incoming packet so that each client is limited to their 16K international & 64K local bandwidth allowances. I have looked around and cannot find any info on how to do this, except by going for an integrated hardware cache/traffic shaper. Surely there is away to do this... even if we get our router to split the international & local traffic and apply "Cisco route maps, based on precedence bit" to forward the HTTP traffic to 2 separate transparent caches (1 Squid for international traffic & 1 Squid for local), then on each we implement "delay pools" for each client ? Surely someone has done this before to enable Squid to limit bandwidth based on precedence bit ? Thanks, any guidance would be most appreciated. Kindest regards David Wilson The S.A Internet To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 6 9:56:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from siafu.iconnect.co.ke (upagraha.iconnect.co.ke [209.198.248.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3EF237B401 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:56:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from [64.110.74.50] (helo=poeza.iconnect.co.ke) by siafu.iconnect.co.ke with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14QCKE-000JJg-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 20:54:48 +0300 Received: from wash by poeza.iconnect.co.ke with local (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14QCMW-000EBN-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 06 Feb 2001 20:57:08 +0300 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 20:57:08 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: FBSD-ISP Subject: Managing DNS Message-ID: <20010206205708.A54391@poeza.iconnect.co.ke> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , FBSD-ISP Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD poeza.iconnect.co.ke 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Location: Mombasa, KE, East Africa Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi I was beginning to think that there is an easier way of managing hosted domains than we're doing now. We're an ISP and we do host quite a good number of domains for clients. These are mainly in the .KE but we also have .COM etc. Now we have to enter those domain names for both Forward and reverse lookups. We do have a db file for each domain that we host and most of the time the only difference in the db file would be a static IP we've allocated a domain and possibly an A record for a web page hosted elsewhere. Isn't it possible to have a single db file for ALL these hosted domains? What methods are others using out there? TIA -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington Inter-Connect Ltd., wash@iconnect.co.ke 5th Flr Furaha Plaza Tel: 254 11 222604 Nkrumah Rd., Fax: 254 11 222636 PO Box 83613 MOMBASA, KE. Want to make your computer go really fast? Throw it out a window. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 6 10: 7:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailsrv.amplex.net (mailsrv.amplex.net [209.57.124.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEDAD37B401 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 10:07:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from marklaptop (office-7.amplex.net [209.57.221.7]) (authenticated) by mailsrv.amplex.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f16I7Or49131 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:07:24 -0500 (EST) From: "Mark Radabaugh" To: Subject: RE: Managing DNS Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:07:19 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20010206205708.A54391@poeza.iconnect.co.ke> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This won't work if you are not using virtual hosting but we set up a generic zone file for each web server like this: $TTL 26400 @ IN SOA bsd.amplex.net. support.amplex.net. ( @ IN A 209.57.124.27 @ 600 IN MX 10 mailsrv.amplex.net. www IN A 209.57.124.27 ftp IN A 209.57.124.27 mail IN CNAME pop3.amplex.net. pop3 IN CNAME pop3.amplex.net. smtp IN CNAME smtp.amplex.net. stmp IN CNAME smtp.amplex.net. and then just keep using that in the named.conf file: zone "dynamicsmfg.com" { type master; file "web.virtuals.dns"; }; zone "myphotovideo.com" { type master; file "web.virtuals.dns"; }; BIND doesn't care that the same file is referenced for different domains. The only time you need to make a different zone file is if the customer needs something special. We don't worry about reverse DNS for virtual hosted customers - the reverse points to the web servers name. I'm sure there are even better solutions using databases... Mark Radabaugh VP, Amplex (419)833-3635 mark@amplex.net > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Odhiambo Washington > Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2001 12:57 PM > To: FBSD-ISP > Subject: Managing DNS > > > Hi > I was beginning to think that there is an easier way of managing > hosted domains than > we're doing now. We're an ISP and we do host quite a good number of > domains for > clients. These are mainly in the .KE but we also have .COM etc. Now we have to > enter those domain names for both Forward and reverse lookups. We do have a db > file for each domain that we host and most of the time the only > difference in the > db file would be a static IP we've allocated a domain and possibly an A record > for a web page hosted elsewhere. > > Isn't it possible to have a single db file for ALL these hosted domains? > What methods are others using out there? > > TIA > > -Wash > > -- > Odhiambo Washington Inter-Connect Ltd., > wash@iconnect.co.ke 5th Flr Furaha Plaza > Tel: 254 11 222604 Nkrumah Rd., > Fax: 254 11 222636 PO Box 83613 MOMBASA, KE. > > Want to make your computer go really fast? Throw it out a window. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 6 11: 8:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.mauigateway.com (mail.mauigateway.com [205.166.249.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 866B337B401 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:08:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from mauigateway.com (ascend5-231.mauigateway.com [199.4.58.231]) by mail.mauigateway.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA21386; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 09:22:37 -1000 (HST) (envelope-from sysop@mauigateway.com) Message-ID: <3A804B90.974C004E@mauigateway.com> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 09:08:00 -1000 From: George Fontaine Reply-To: sysop@mauigateway.com Organization: Maui Gateway X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en]C-CCK-MCD ezn/58/n (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Troy Settle , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: simple FreeBSD shaper questions :) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Troy, I've actually been in the business since 1994. Regardless of the length of time I've been around, the posts to the list are not appropriate. I rely on this list and others for important information. Perhaps flames and other types of posts are appropriate in other lists, but not here. If this activity is allowed to continue you will find people unsubscribing and the credibility of the list reduced. Troy Settle wrote: > George, > > You've not been around very long I take it. In the 5 years I've been on > various mailing lists, everytime someone mentions Dennis, a food fight > ensues. Every single time, it's been a complete hoot. I actually enjoy > these spats. > > I've not used Dennis' products, nor have I ever spoken with him. All I can > say, is that the guy gets poked and prodded, retailiates, then gets flamed. > No, his attitude isn't very professional, but obviously, his company is > doing well enough for itself, else he wouldn't still be in business after > all these years. > > [ from foggy memory ] The only really bad thing I've ever seen about Dennis > or his company, was Dennis calling someone a theif because they needed a new > license after swapping out ethernet cards (iirc, the bwmgr stuff locks into > a specific MAC). The one simple solution that I didn't see publicly > mentioned, was to send the old NIC in for Dennis to destroy. > > -- > Troy Settle > Pulaski Networks > 540.994.4254 > > They told me to think out of the box, but I > tripped over it, now I own my own company. > > ** -----Original Message----- > ** From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > ** [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of George Fontaine > ** Sent: Monday, February 05, 2001 8:09 PM > ** To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > ** Subject: Re: simple FreeBSD shaper questions :) > ** > ** > ** Dear List Manager: > ** > ** Can we ban this guy from the list? This dialog is very unprofessional. > ** > ** > ** Dennis wrote: > ** > ** > At 06:28 PM 02/05/2001, Will Andrews wrote: > ** > >On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 06:14:34PM -0500, Dennis wrote: > ** > > > So Im a "legendary asshole" because my company didnt > ** accept VISA at the > ** > > > time? That puts it into perspective. But then again, you knew that > ** > > beforehand. > ** > > > ** > >Please stop this. This whole thread makes all of you look immature. > ** > > ** > Stay out of this fart-head. This doesnt concern you. > ** > > ** > :-) > ** > > ** > Dennis > ** > > ** > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > ** > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > ** > ** > ** > ** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > ** with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > ** > ** > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 6 11:20:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.itech-usa.com (unknown [63.122.15.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 88AA737B503 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 11:19:57 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 72114 invoked by uid 89); 6 Feb 2001 19:21:12 -0000 Message-ID: <20010206192112.72113.qmail@mail.itech-usa.com> References: <20010206205708.A54391@poeza.iconnect.co.ke> In-Reply-To: <20010206205708.A54391@poeza.iconnect.co.ke> From: "Domain Owner" To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: FBSD-ISP Subject: Re: Managing DNS Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 19:21:12 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Maybe this will help: Someone else mentioned that you could have a single NAMED DB file for multiple domains, the problem would be that the IP addresses for the services would all be the same. You didn't mention what server software you are using, but I am assuming you are using APACHE 1.3.4 or later with Virtual Webhosting setup. The only way to use the same DNS Entries is to shift your IP based configuration to a NAME BASED Virtual Hosting configuration in Apache. If you are using FTP, this may also be a challenge depending on which FTPD you are using. We use PROFTPD because it is similar in configuartion and features to APACHE. I use IP based on my server, but I believe that NAMED-BASED may be what you want to look into if you are concerned about IP Address allocation. You might also want to consider using QMAIL if you arent already. The packages are located in the ports directory: Apache Daemon: /usr/ports/www/apache-modssl http://www.apache.org ProFTP Daemon: /usr/ports/ftp/proftpd http://www.proftpd.org Qmail Daemon: /usr/ports/mail/qmail http://www.qmail.org - Chris Tusa webmaster@oswars.net Odhiambo Washington writes: > Hi > I was beginning to think that there is an easier way of managing hosted domains than > we're doing now. We're an ISP and we do host quite a good number of domains for > clients. These are mainly in the .KE but we also have .COM etc. Now we have to > enter those domain names for both Forward and reverse lookups. We do have a db > file for each domain that we host and most of the time the only difference in the > db file would be a static IP we've allocated a domain and possibly an A record > for a web page hosted elsewhere. > > Isn't it possible to have a single db file for ALL these hosted domains? > What methods are others using out there? > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 6 12:56:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hitline.ch (mail.hitline.ch [195.129.74.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A4F437B699 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 12:56:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from [62.2.147.87] (account micheal@com4u.ch HELO [62.2.147.87]) by hitline.ch (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.4b8) with ESMTP id 3494955 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Tue, 06 Feb 2001 21:56:04 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: micheal%com4u.ch@mail.com4u.ch Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 21:56:00 +0100 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Michael O Shea Subject: sql with FTP Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi folks, Up to now we provide FTP to our customers via ProFtpd compiled with mod_sql with Postgres. This was great as it allowed up to store users username/password/uid/gid/homedir in SQL and not /etc/passwd and proftpd would chroot them into their homedirs. However proftpd by their own addmission is not that secure and they have now discontinued SQL support in their latest version due to security issues. Does anyone know of a similar (secure) ftpd that can auth against SQL/PostGres or is there anyother way to do this ? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 6 12:59:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from titanic.medinet.si (titanic.medinet.si [212.18.32.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9505537B69B for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 12:59:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by titanic.medinet.si (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8398D26C02; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 21:59:40 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by titanic.medinet.si (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77E6E11707; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 21:59:40 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 21:59:40 +0100 (CET) From: Blaz Zupan To: Michael O Shea Cc: Subject: Re: sql with FTP In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Does anyone know of a similar (secure) ftpd that can auth against > SQL/PostGres or is there anyother way to do this ? ftpd available in FreeBSD can authenticate through any means that is supported by PAM, including SQL. Blaz Zupan, Medinet d.o.o, Linhartova 21, 2000 Maribor, Slovenia E-mail: blaz@amis.net, Tel: +386-2-320-6320, Fax: +386-2-320-6325 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 6 13:45:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net (bsdie.rwsystems.net [209.197.223.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31ED137B491 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 13:45:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from bsdie.rwsystems.net([209.197.223.2]) (1141 bytes) by bsdie.rwsystems.net via sendmail with P:esmtp/R:bind_hosts/T:inet_zone_bind_smtp (sender: ) id for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 15:22:06 -0600 (CST) (Smail-3.2.0.111 2000-Feb-17 #1 built 2000-Jun-25) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 15:22:06 -0600 (CST) From: James Wyatt To: Troy Settle Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: simple FreeBSD shaper questions :) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 6 Feb 2001, Troy Settle wrote: > You've not been around very long I take it. In the 5 years I've been on > various mailing lists, everytime someone mentions Dennis, a food fight > ensues. Every single time, it's been a complete hoot. I actually enjoy > these spats. Not every time some mentiones him, but nearly every time someone mentions a past business dealing with him... I can see there are two sides to deals like this, but we all get tired of seeing them after a while. Many of us would like to pick and choose whom we support, but can't. (^_^) - Jy@ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 6 14:14:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 380C337B4EC for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 14:14:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from dbsys.etinc.com (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA32428; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 17:19:19 GMT (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20010206170431.038bcc90@mail.etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@mail.etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 17:23:26 -0500 To: sysop@mauigateway.com, Troy Settle , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Dennis Subject: Re: simple FreeBSD shaper questions :) In-Reply-To: <3A804B90.974C004E@mauigateway.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 02:08 PM 02/06/2001, George Fontaine wrote: >Troy, >I've actually been in the business since 1994. Regardless of the length >of time >I've been around, the posts to the list are not appropriate. I rely on this >list and others for important information. Perhaps flames and other types of >posts are appropriate in other lists, but not here. If this activity is >allowed >to continue you will find people unsubscribing and the credibility of the list >reduced. Then why are your comments about the flames appropriate? Or dont your rules apply to you? I think you'll find that I rarely begin the flaming. There are certain people (PHK, AD to name a few) who are infuriated to see my name in the "To:" of their mailbox.No one ever flames the flamers. Its always my fault for defending myself. Maybe because people only read the messages I send (cuz im so darn popular!) I reserve the right to defend myself. I get flamed for asking if the if_fxp driver is working. Why is that not a valid question? What if everyone that asked if something was working got a "fix it yourself" response? Maybe I will fix it, and then you'll flame me for selling it and making money off of my work. Lets see. This last one...someone innocently asks if anyone has any experience with one of our products, I purposely didnt answer it, and Mr..Dillweed personally attacks me because of a previous dispute. Is that the kind of "information" you want to get from this list? Someone saying negative things about a very valuable and popular product because of a personal vendetta? The only reason I read Mr. Dills comments was because Eudora showed 2 chili peppers next to the message. Gotta read those! DB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 6 15: 7:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sixpence.mtcibs.com (sixpence.solveinteractive.com [204.62.227.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59DFC37B401 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 15:07:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from gold.mtcibs.com (gold [204.62.225.30]) by sixpence.mtcibs.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA26024; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 18:05:21 -0500 (EST) Received: from trinity.solveinteractive.com (trinity.solveinteractive.com [204.62.225.170]) by gold.mtcibs.com (8.8.7/8.7.3) with ESMTP id SAA23292; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 18:05:20 -0500 (EST) Received: (from rch@localhost) by trinity.solveinteractive.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f16N6ju71498; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 18:06:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rch@solveinteractive.com) Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 18:06:44 -0500 From: Robert Hough To: Dennis Cc: sysop@mauigateway.com, Troy Settle , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: simple FreeBSD shaper questions :) Message-ID: <20010206180644.A71463@solveinteractive.com> Reply-To: rch@solveinteractive.com References: <3A804B90.974C004E@mauigateway.com> <5.0.0.25.0.20010206170431.038bcc90@mail.etinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.0.0.25.0.20010206170431.038bcc90@mail.etinc.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dennis [dennis@etinc.com] wrote: > > Lets see. This last one...someone innocently asks if anyone has any > experience with one of our products, I purposely didnt answer it, and > Mr..Dillweed personally attacks me because of a previous dispute. I'm sorry, I have not been following this thread unfortunately. Exactly, who is Mr. Dillweed again? > The only reason I read Mr. Dills comments was because Eudora showed 2 chili > peppers next to the message. Gotta read those! What the hell does 2 chili peppers mean? I knew there was a reason I stopped using Windows based mailers, they keep getting weirder and weirder! -- Robert Hough (rch@solveinteractive.com) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 6 16:38:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from wildcatblue.com (flanders.wildcatblue.com [206.157.147.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 291EC37B401 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 16:38:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from vghk (p1mp.vghk.e-xtreme.org [206.157.147.77]) by wildcatblue.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 8C71085B03 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 19:41:49 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <000e01c0909d$e3839310$577afea9@vghk> From: "david rhodus" To: Subject: upgrading to bind 9.1.0 Date: Tue, 6 Feb 2001 19:35:35 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01C09073.FA271D00" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C09073.FA271D00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was able to install bind 8.2.3 REL But I have not been able to make 9.1.0 install. 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I was able to install bind 8.2.3 = REL
 
But I have not been able to make 9.1.0=20 install.
Has anyone been able to install it or = does it=20 not
work on 4.2 = yet??
------=_NextPart_000_000B_01C09073.FA271D00-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 6 16:49:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from orion.buckhorn.net (orion.buckhorn.net [63.151.7.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6201537B401 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 16:49:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from buckhorn.net (localhost.buckhorn.net.net [127.0.0.1]) by orion.buckhorn.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f170muM07818 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 18:48:56 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob@buckhorn.net) Message-ID: <3A809B78.C81C088F@buckhorn.net> Date: Tue, 06 Feb 2001 18:48:56 -0600 From: Bob Martin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: upgrading to bind 9.1.0 References: <000e01c0909d$e3839310$577afea9@vghk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > david rhodus wrote: > > I was able to install bind 8.2.3 REL > > But I have not been able to make 9.1.0 install. > Has anyone been able to install it or does it not > work on 4.2 yet?? If you download the source, and use the following configure line, it will replace your current version of BIND with 9.1.0. But read the docs first. BIND 9 is very fussy about it's files, and not all 8x features are compatible yet. configure --prefix=/usr --localstatedir=/var \ --sysconfdir=/etc/namedb Make won't install the man pages, you'll have to do that yourself. Bob Martin -- As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality. -- Albert Einstein To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Feb 6 23:39:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns.internet.dk (ns.internet.dk [194.19.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E38D37B491 for ; Tue, 6 Feb 2001 23:39:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from uucp@localhost) by ns.internet.dk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with UUCP id f177dGh71004 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:39:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Received: from gina (gina.neland.dk [192.168.0.14]) by arnold.neland.dk (8.11.1/8.11.0) with SMTP id f177d2x54567 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:39:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from leifn@neland.dk) Message-ID: <026001c090d9$1f8b4de0$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Reply-To: "Leif Neland" From: "Leif Neland" To: Subject: cost of denying use of dns Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 08:39:31 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've set our nameserver to only allow recursive lookups for our own = customers. However, now I wonder if it is more "expensive" to deny the lookup and = write the reject to a logfile than just go ahead and answer. Leif To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 7 1: 1:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from icon.icon.bg (icon.bg [62.176.80.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 11CDB37B698 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 01:01:29 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 65848 invoked by uid 1144); 7 Feb 2001 09:02:29 -0000 Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 11:02:29 +0200 From: Victor Ivanov To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: sql with FTP Message-ID: <20010207110229.A65546@icon.icon.bg> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from blaz@amis.net on Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 09:59:40PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Feb 06, 2001 at 09:59:40PM +0100, Blaz Zupan wrote: > > Does anyone know of a similar (secure) ftpd that can auth against > > SQL/PostGres or is there anyother way to do this ? >=20 > ftpd available in FreeBSD can authenticate through any means that is supp= orted > by PAM, including SQL. FTPD uses a template account when authenticating through PAM. All users get access to one directory, and there is no quota support for virtual users. Also there is no support for limiting simultaneous logins... --=20 Players win and Winners play Have a lucky day --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.1i iQCVAwUBOoEPIvD9M5lef5W3AQEOBwP/Q+AbthGEGX/JNc8Ay1akJVkU8oeVx4eh fTSBPRx646rxwdC1WeTLTtqQlaLYOfO9ntnNbbz12C0N3Wxs+bYpYdraHm17Yidw LH/+zcObslsrS9vcr+rCwbEAj6xcQUbaDi7oGDjk506PpybDiuGeuWkLCiUu7ngG Z72ZUeiBv+w= =lZbC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 7 5:11:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from orion.buckhorn.net (orion.buckhorn.net [63.151.7.243]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 165DF37B401 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 05:10:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from buckhorn.net (localhost.buckhorn.net.net [127.0.0.1]) by orion.buckhorn.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f17DAnM09411 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:10:50 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from bob@buckhorn.net) Message-ID: <3A814959.3053B550@buckhorn.net> Date: Wed, 07 Feb 2001 07:10:49 -0600 From: Bob Martin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cost of denying use of dns References: <026001c090d9$1f8b4de0$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Leif Neland wrote: > > I've set our nameserver to only allow recursive lookups for our own customers. > > However, now I wonder if it is more "expensive" to deny the lookup and write the reject to a logfile than just go ahead and answer. > > Leif > It won't use more resouces (except disk space). You could just log those rejects to the bit bucket. Bob Martin -- As far as the laws of mathematics refer to reality, they are not certain, and as far as they are certain, they do not refer to reality. -- Albert Einstein To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 7 7: 2:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3462837B698 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:02:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id HAA23541; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:58:52 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 07:58:52 -0700 (MST) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: Leif Neland Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cost of denying use of dns In-Reply-To: <026001c090d9$1f8b4de0$0e00a8c0@neland.dk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 7 Feb 2001, Leif Neland wrote: > However, now I wonder if it is more "expensive" to deny the lookup and > write the reject to a logfile than just go ahead and answer. I was planning on saying that by doing this, the users will be forced to find another name server, but now I think about how I think most resolvers work, I'm not so sure. First, unless you plan on tracking these people down, just bit-bucket the logging for the denys. In this case, it is probably a lot less expensive to respond with a "go see the roots" than to respond and also log. Now, the question is whether the resolver in Win95/98/NT/2000, etc. etc. etc. (and other systems) can deal with being pointed towards a non-recursive nameserver as their primary DNS server. Try pointing a machine towards a.root-servers.net or b.gtld-servers.net or something like that and see what happens. If they choke horribly, you've now eliminated the problem, as these people will go find someone else to do resolution for. It's too bad you can't just deny the non-authoriative responses (meaning responding to anything you are not specifically authoritative for), but I think that doing this would be a bad idea. It would, however, get rid of your problems, as people would have to find another DNS server. There is one additional thing for you to consider. If you're customers roam at all outside of your dialup system, and they have your DNS servers statically configured this might break their resolvers. - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- iMach, Ltd., P.O. Box 5749, Helena, MT 59604 http://www.imach.com Solutions for your high-tech problems. (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Feb 7 20:20:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from snowcrash.lelnet.com (snowcrash.lelnet.com [139.171.64.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 174AE37B503 for ; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 20:20:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from mbl@localhost) by snowcrash.lelnet.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id XAA33243; Wed, 7 Feb 2001 23:20:03 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mbl) Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2001 23:20:03 -0500 From: Matthew Landry To: Andy Dills Cc: Dennis , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: simple FreeBSD shaper questions :) Message-ID: <20010207232003.A33132@snowcrash.lelnet.com> References: <5.0.0.25.0.20010205144032.0215a9b0@mail.etinc.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i In-Reply-To: ; from andy@xecu.net on Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 03:24:54PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Feb 05, 2001 at 03:24:54PM -0500, Andy Dills wrote: > changed that policy, which is good for you. Anyways, you wouldn't take > that card, and wouldn't agree to any sort of arrangement we offered, > including direct wire transfer. You basically said "fuck you I don't want > your money". So now, and for the rest of time, I'm going to let everybody > know that you feel that the customer is not important, and you are not > motivated by their money. This was three years ago; do you really think I'm not you. I wasn't on the phone with Dennis three years ago. Instead I was on the phone with Dennis this past October, with a similar problem. I needed a license key RIGHT AWAY for a box that was going live into colo the next morning and would bankrupt me with bandwidth fees if etinc's software wasn't installed, configured, and working flawlessly. My personal charge card, unknown to me, was being denied because of a transaction limit policy I'd ignored in the fine print of my contract with the bank. Dennis was not only willing to work with _me_ to resolve the situation, he was willing to talk with my bank about it. I've never found a vendor that helpful about payment issues before. Hell, I doubt _I_ would be that helpful in a similar situation. If I remember correctly, Dennis is unpopular on inet-access not because of issues with his company, his products, or his customer service, but because of his sometimes controversial opinions on other matters. I can't say I agreed with him when those fights were going on. But I didn't want to let that stop me from choosing the best product, and I'm glad I didn't. Can I say from my own knowledge that Dennis wasn't a jerk three years ago when you dealt with him? Of course not. But your experience does not necessarily constitute a representative sample of the universe. -- Matthew Landry mbl@lelnet.com O- LEL Network Services Anti-Stupid Talisman "You don't have to outrun the bear. Just outrun the slowest hiker." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 8 5: 1:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from marvin.trident-uk.co.uk (mail.trident-uk.co.uk [195.166.16.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BCCC237B4EC for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 05:01:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.trident-uk.co.uk (freefire.trident-uk.co.uk [194.207.93.30]) by marvin.trident-uk.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f18D0c239228 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:00:39 GMT Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:17:14 +0000 From: Jamie Heckford To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Sendmail logging Message-ID: <20010208131714.C234@freefire.trident-uk.co.uk> Reply-To: heckfordj@psi-domain.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Balsa 1.1.0 Lines: 28 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I know it is possible to set sendmail up to log all incoming mail to a file using aliases and/or virtusertable. Is it possible to record all OUTGOING (sent) email going through sendmail?? Does anyone have any suggestions (that will be transparent to the user!!) thanks -- Jamie Heckford Chief Network Engineer Psi-Domain - Innovative Linux Solutions. Ask Us How. ===================================== email: heckfordj@psi-domain.co.uk web: http://www.psi-domain.co.uk/ tel: +44 (0)1737 789 246 fax: +44 (0)1737 789 245 mobile: +44 (0)7866 724 224 ===================================== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 8 5:12:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inetcomm.ru (mail.inetcomm.ru [212.152.32.73]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B226137B491 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 05:11:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from hit.inetcomm.net (hit.inetcomm.net [212.152.32.74]) by mail.inetcomm.ru (Postfix) with SMTP id 768927AF8; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:11:56 +0300 (MSK) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 16:11:53 +0300 From: Roman Korolyov To: heckfordj@psi-domain.co.uk Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sendmail logging In-Reply-To: <20010208131714.C234@freefire.trident-uk.co.uk> References: <20010208131714.C234@freefire.trident-uk.co.uk> X-Mailer: stuphead version 0.5.0 (GTK+ 1.2.6; Linux 2.2.14-win4lin; i686) Organization: INET Communications Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010208131156.768927AF8@mail.inetcomm.ru> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 8 Feb 2001 13:17:14 +0000 Jamie Heckford wrote: > I know it is possible to set sendmail up to log > all incoming mail to a file using aliases and/or > virtusertable. > > Is it possible to record all OUTGOING (sent) email > going through sendmail?? > > Does anyone have any suggestions (that will be transparent > to the user!!) http://www.sendmail.org knows ;) There is a link to http://www.harker.com/sendmail/copyuser.html > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 8 8:51:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cody.jharris.com (cody.jharris.com [205.238.128.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5C7E37B69C for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 08:51:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (nick@localhost) by cody.jharris.com (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f18HCdf99739; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:12:39 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from nick@rogness.net) Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:12:39 -0600 (CST) From: Nick Rogness X-Sender: nick@cody.jharris.com To: Jamie Heckford Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sendmail logging In-Reply-To: <20010208131714.C234@freefire.trident-uk.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Jamie Heckford wrote: > Hi, > Hello > I know it is possible to set sendmail up to log > all incoming mail to a file using aliases and/or > virtusertable. > > Is it possible to record all OUTGOING (sent) email > going through sendmail?? Umm, point of clarity here. Do you want to log vuser and alias lookups happening in sendmail? All incoming/outgoing mail is logged in /var/log/maillog by default. Nick Rogness - Keep on routing in a Free World... "FreeBSD: The Power to Serve!" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Feb 8 11:39:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from etinc.com (et-gw.etinc.com [207.252.1.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 543E137B6A0 for ; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 11:38:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from dbsys.etinc.com (dbsys.etinc.com [207.252.1.18]) by etinc.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA42603; Thu, 8 Feb 2001 14:44:13 GMT (envelope-from dennis@etinc.com) Message-Id: <5.0.0.25.0.20010208142840.04044eb0@mail.etinc.com> X-Sender: dennis@mail.etinc.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0 Date: Thu, 08 Feb 2001 14:47:38 -0500 To: "David Wilson" , From: Dennis Subject: Re: Transparent proxying with delay pools based on IP precedence bit Cc: , In-Reply-To: <009901c09064$3e267150$112821c4@pmb.sai.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:42 PM 02/06/2001, David Wilson wrote: >Hi guys, howzit going ? ;-) > >An nice juicy question: > >We are an ISP and we allocate our leased line clients subnets of IP's. >At the moment we use a Packeteer traffic shaper to limit our each of clients >international bandwidth to 16K international & 64K Local. >The Packeteer is able to distinguish between local & international traffic >because our bandwidth provider marks our incoming packets "precedence" >fields of all international traffic with a "2" and all local traffic with a >"0". just curious, is this a standard practice? we could do that in our etbwmgr product for freebsd. how does it handle outgoing non-tcp traffic? Dennis To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 9 17:22:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.tcworks.net (mail.tcworks.net [216.61.218.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74AA937B503 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:22:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from tcworks.net (creed.tcworks.net [216.61.218.6]) by mail.tcworks.net (8.10.2/8.10.2) with ESMTP id f1A1IfX65680 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 19:18:41 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <3A84983D.95A22273@tcworks.net> Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 19:24:13 -0600 From: Chris Cook X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.mail.sendmail To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Problems compiling, "cannot open -lbind" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, I am trying to upgrade the sendmail version on our backup mx and am running into some problems. When i attempt to "sh Build" or "make" I get an error message about what I think are bind libraries. This is a FreeBSD machine recently upgraded via "make world" to 3.5-STABLE. I recently upgraded bind as well (because of the recent security issues). I have downloaded the bind source and recompiled it hoping to fix whatever lib problem I may be having, but no luck there. I have attached the output from "make" and would very much appreciate any feedback on the issue. Thanks in advance! -- Chris o----< ccook@tcworks.net >------------------------------------o |Chris Cook - Admin |TCWORKS.NET - http://www.tcworks.net | |The Computer Works ISP |FreeBSD - http://www.freebsd.org | o-------------------------------------------------------------o backupmx:/home/ccook/sendmail-8.10.2$ make Making all in: /usr/home/ccook/sendmail-8.10.2/libsmutil Configuration: pfx=, os=FreeBSD, rel=3.5-STABLE, rbase=3, rroot=3.5-STABLE, arch=i386, sfx=, variant=optimized Making in ../obj.FreeBSD.3.5-STABLE.i386/libsmutil Making all in: /usr/home/ccook/sendmail-8.10.2/libsmdb Configuration: pfx=, os=FreeBSD, rel=3.5-STABLE, rbase=3, rroot=3.5-STABLE, arch=i386, sfx=, variant=optimized Making in ../obj.FreeBSD.3.5-STABLE.i386/libsmdb Making all in: /usr/home/ccook/sendmail-8.10.2/sendmail Configuration: pfx=, os=FreeBSD, rel=3.5-STABLE, rbase=3, rroot=3.5-STABLE, arch=i386, sfx=, variant=optimized Making in ../obj.FreeBSD.3.5-STABLE.i386/sendmail cc -o sendmail main.o alias.o arpadate.o bf_torek.o clock.o collect.o conf.o control.o convtime.o daemon.o deliver.o domain.o envelope.o err.o headers.o macro.o map.o mci.o milter.o mime.o parseaddr.o queue.o readcf.o recipient.o savemail.o sfsasl.o shmticklib.o srvrsmtp.o stab.o stats.o sysexits.o timers.o trace.o udb.o usersmtp.o util.o version.o ../libsmutil/libsmutil.a -lbind -lutil /usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot open -lbind: No such file or directory *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Feb 9 17:36:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts7.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2EB737B491 for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 17:36:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from colba.net ([216.209.218.104]) by tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010210013616.DOGK2138.tomts7-srv.bellnexxia.net@colba.net> for ; Fri, 9 Feb 2001 20:36:16 -0500 Message-ID: <3A849B24.35648ABD@colba.net> Date: Fri, 09 Feb 2001 20:36:36 -0500 From: Paul Khavkine X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: test Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org test To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 10 8:43:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jupiter.freedomhosting.com (jupiter.freedomhosting.com [216.29.191.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 970C337B4EC for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 08:43:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from pulse (silence.freedomhosting.com [24.42.159.21]) by jupiter.freedomhosting.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA70255 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 11:43:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from kevin@freedomhosting.com) Message-ID: <090301c09381$1e8b8c20$5a00a8c0@bloor1.on.wave.home.com> From: "Kevin Turner" To: Subject: FrontPage Extensions Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 11:47:12 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I have installed FrontPage extensions on one of my webservers, and keep coming up with the following error when trying to publish a web: [Sat Feb 10 11:40:00 2001] [error] [client 24.42.159.21] File does not exist: /home2/finary/www/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/_vti_rpc I have followed the install instructions as best I can, and have scoured the web for docs... I haven't been able to find a solution to this problem as of yet. I am using Apache 1.3.12 and FrontPage 4.0.2.4222 Any ideas? Perhaps I have something configured wrong... Regards, Kevin Turner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 10 13:46: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.westbend.net (unknown [216.106.246.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EF4637B65D for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 13:45:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from admin.westbend.net (admin0.westbend.net [216.106.246.17]) (authenticated) by mail.westbend.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f1ALjbq34134; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 15:45:38 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from hetzels@westbend.net) Message-ID: <004f01c093aa$6811e320$11f66ad8@westbend.net> From: "Scot W. Hetzel" To: "Kevin Turner" , References: <090301c09381$1e8b8c20$5a00a8c0@bloor1.on.wave.home.com> Subject: Re: FrontPage Extensions Date: Sat, 10 Feb 2001 15:42:45 -0600 Organization: West Bend Interent MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: "Kevin Turner" > I have installed FrontPage extensions on one of my webservers, and keep > coming up with the following error when > trying to publish a web: > > [Sat Feb 10 11:40:00 2001] [error] [client 24.42.159.21] File does not > exist: /home2/finary/www/_vti_bin/shtml.exe/_vti_rpc > > I have followed the install instructions as best I can, and have scoured the > web for docs... I haven't > been able to find a solution to this problem as of yet. > > I am using Apache 1.3.12 and FrontPage 4.0.2.4222 > > Any ideas? Perhaps I have something configured wrong... > When you installed the FrontPage extensions, did you use the apache13-fp port or used fp_install.sh? If you used the port: 1. Did you use choose "apache-fp" during the install? 2. Do you have /usr/local/sbin/suexec installed, and was it installed by the port (-DSUEXEC)? NOTE: Apache-FP requires a patched suexec executable, so that the fpexe program will run. If you used fp_install.sh and choose "apache", then check the ScriptAlias statements are in the correct location of the httpd.conf file (search the Frontpage 2000 discussion board (www.rtr.com ) for _vti_bin/shtml.exe/_vti_rpc). Scot To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Feb 10 22: 8:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.cnnet.com.au (unknown [203.52.8.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1942337B401 for ; Sat, 10 Feb 2001 22:08:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from freebsd.cnnet.com.au (freebsd.cnnet.com.au [203.52.8.193]) by ns2.cnnet.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA96979 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 16:07:48 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from phil@ozxpress.com.au) Received: from right.ozxpress.com.au ([192.168.101.33]) by freebsd.cnnet.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA23509 for ; Sun, 11 Feb 2001 16:07:32 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from phil@ozxpress.com.au) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010211154104.02709190@freebsd.cnnet.com.au> X-Sender: phil@freebsd.cnnet.com.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2001 16:07:30 +1100 To: isp@freebsd.org From: phil grainger Subject: ip redirection Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi, our isp recently got a satellite feed and i managed to get the squid talking via the sat ip's ... no i am wanting to use the satellite for incoming ftp and incoming napster traffic. our servers run a 203. (land line) and 209. (satellite) networks our clients use 203. ip's our clients gateway is a freebsd 3-stable machine although i can change that to a linux 2.2 box (of course i would prefer the freebsd solution!) the freebsd box is running ipnat and ipfw has anyone got any advice on how to manage this thanks, Phil Grainger ---------------------------------------------------------- ozxpress.com.au User Support Services http://ozxpress.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message