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Hello,

On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 10:45:20AM +0300, Odhiambo Washington penned:

> If I host a virtual domain called virtual.dom, I want mail for that
> domain to be delivered to /var/virtdomains/$domain/$local_part so
> that mail for marc@virtual.com is stored in
> /var/mail/virtual.dom/marc. Marc should then be able to login as
> marc@virtual.dom in order to pick his e-mails. This whole scenario
> should still leave me with the freedom to have marc@wananchi.com
> whose mail is in /var/mail/marc and who logs in simply as marc. At a
> higher level, I also need to handle aliases for these virtual
> domains, separate from my main aliases file.


Here comes a deciding factor. Do you wish to have all this setup
controlled by 1) Database, or 2) LDAP, or 3) Config files.=20

Then comes another issue of what are you looking for mail pickup, i.e.
IMAP or POP3. Do you need a web based mail pickup etc.

As someone else pointed this out to you, this has been discussed a lot
on this list and you'll find good info in the archives. However, I can
tell you the way I have it setup:

1) Exim queries a MySQL DB for virtual Host/user (where their passwd
   is also stored)
2) Mail delivery is done to /var/virtual_mail/$domain/$user
3) I am running qpopper+mySQL patch for mail pickup for this virtual
   user.
4) Real user mail is done via Maildir and/or procmail(hacked for
   Maildir support on OpenBSD). They can pickup their mail locally or
   through courier IMAP via webmail
5) For security purposes, only localhost can connect to port
   110(POP3), thus giving me more control over who logs in and via only
   the web interface.=20

At present, I am looking at another solution where I want to change
from MySQL to a LDAP database but I have been just "so" busy.

> I sincerely trust that someone can advise me on this - the steps
> they took, even a mini-howto from personal notes. One major question
> is how to get separate passwd files for the virtual-domain users and
> the main system users.How do you add your users?  I'm looking at
> this from the FreeBSD perspective.

Well, as I have above..you can prolly write up a quick php script that
can add/remove users in MYSQL.=20

Ciao,

    -Kevin
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Hi,

We're going to use FreeBSD for our web hosting and virtual private server
services. I'd like to know the best practices in using FreeBSD as a web
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Hi,

We want to offer virtual private server services with Linux binary
compatibility. Will enabling 'linux_enable' in rc.conf do the trick for all
virtual (jail) private servers?

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Hello

I'm trying to find as more as possible information about clustering
software for/under FreeBSD. Could someone describe the real example of
that and tells how strong/effective in real life that is ?

Any information/suggestions/comments are welcome.

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On Mon, 19 Nov 2001 francisv@dagupan.com wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We want to offer virtual private server services with Linux binary
> compatibility. Will enabling 'linux_enable' in rc.conf do the trick for all
> virtual (jail) private servers?
>
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You'll also need to set Linux compatibility in the Kernel and install the
Linux libraries.  I don't have much experience with jailing virtual
servers but Linux compatibility should function the same as everything
else.

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On Mon, Nov 19, 2001 at 02:32:39PM +0800, francisv@dagupan.com wrote:

> We're going to use FreeBSD for our web hosting and virtual private server
> services. I'd like to know the best practices in using FreeBSD as a web
> hosting server.

What part of "using FreeBSd as a web hosting server" do you want to
know about? Perhaps you should describe your environment, including
things such as the number of hits per hour you expect your machine to
be handling, the number of virtual hosts you wish to carry, the number 
of servers in the pool, etc.

Let us know, and perhaps your question will be answered.

   - andrew

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Hi,

Unfortunately the searching I've done yields little or nothing, especially
if you are talking high-availability-type clustering. Seems the linux
people are the only ones doing any serious work on that - see
www.linux-ha.org. You might find some links to, or actual software, you
can use/port.

On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Dmitry Alyabyev wrote:

> Hello
>
> I'm trying to find as more as possible information about clustering
> software for/under FreeBSD. Could someone describe the real example of
> that and tells how strong/effective in real life that is ?

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Hi,

Can someone point me to examples in setting up jail for use in a production
environment? I've managed to setup jail but the next step is to include
pre-configured services like apache, mysql, postgresql, postfix, pop3,
imap4, etc.

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#>Hi,
#>
#>Unfortunately the searching I've done yields little or nothing, especially
#>if you are talking high-availability-type clustering. Seems the linux
#>people are the only ones doing any serious work on that - see
#>www.linux-ha.org. You might find some links to, or actual software, you
#>can use/port.

	Unfortunately this is not at all the case.  I don't know where you've
done your searching, but it hasn't been very thorough.  Ronald Minnich
(excuse any bad spelling) has been doing clustering with FreeBSD for _years_
and has clusters of 64 and more (iirc) machines.  I'd appreciate if you did
better research before you post such information to the lists.  It only
serves to disinform those who search in the list archives.

The biggest problem with those searching for "clustering" software usually
is that they haven't defined "clustering" in combination with their needs.
Your assumptions about what what Dmitry actually is looking for make your
answer even less accurate.

#>
#>On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Dmitry Alyabyev wrote:
#>
#>> Hello
#>>
#>> I'm trying to find as more as possible information about clustering
#>> software for/under FreeBSD. Could someone describe the real example of
#>> that and tells how strong/effective in real life that is ?
#>
#>Colin

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Hi,

How do you auto-mount files? The /etc/vntab file I made did not work:

/etc/vntab:

	/dev/vn0c /usr/local/vnodes/file mount=/usr/local/vps/mountpoint

Running `vnconfig -ae' produces:

	vnconfig: VNIOCATTACH: Device busy

Calling the /etc/vntab line from the command line yields the same result.

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Hi,

On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Shaun Jurrens wrote:

> #>Hi,
> #>
> #>Unfortunately the searching I've done yields little or nothing, especially
> #>if you are talking high-availability-type clustering. Seems the linux
> #>people are the only ones doing any serious work on that - see
> #>www.linux-ha.org. You might find some links to, or actual software, you
> #>can use/port.
>
> 	Unfortunately this is not at all the case.  I don't know where you've
> done your searching, but it hasn't been very thorough.  Ronald Minnich
> (excuse any bad spelling) has been doing clustering with FreeBSD for _years_
> and has clusters of 64 and more (iirc) machines.  I'd appreciate if you did
> better research before you post such information to the lists.  It only
> serves to disinform those who search in the list archives.

64 hosts doesn't sound to me like high availability clustering (on which
my reply was based - read it again). It sounds more like beowulf-style
clustering. Since Dimitry didn't specify what he was looking for I tried
to qualify my answer by limiting it to HA clusters.

If you know of such HA clustering software, tell all of us. There have
been quite a few requests for clustering software over the years. I have
never seen anyone reply with anything like the linux-ha project. Maybe
FreeBSD is so good, clustering software isn't needed. And before you jump
down my throat, I run fbsd on my desktop and my two squid servers are
fbsd.

> The biggest problem with those searching for "clustering" software usually
> is that they haven't defined "clustering" in combination with their needs.
> Your assumptions about what what Dmitry actually is looking for make your
> answer even less accurate.

Read my reply again. I pretty much specified "high availability
clustering" because Dimitry did not qulaify his search. I figured all the
beowulf style paralle computing clusters were os independent (or pretty
much so) and therefore easily found and that's why I left them out.

> #>
> #>On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Dmitry Alyabyev wrote:
> #>
> #>> Hello
> #>>
> #>> I'm trying to find as more as possible information about clustering
> #>> software for/under FreeBSD. Could someone describe the real example of
> #>> that and tells how strong/effective in real life that is ?
> #>
> #>Colin
>
> P.S. This is a reply that I cut-n-wasted from the ML archives. I'm not on
> the list, so if you think I should get your mail, use CC:
>
>

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On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:42:27 +0100 Shaun Jurrens <shaun@shamz.net> wrote:
| #>Hi,
| #>
| #>Unfortunately the searching I've done yields little or nothing, especially
| #>if you are talking high-availability-type clustering. Seems the linux
| #>people are the only ones doing any serious work on that - see
| #>www.linux-ha.org. You might find some links to, or actual software, you
| #>can use/port.
| 
| 	Unfortunately this is not at all the case.  I don't know where you've
| done your searching, but it hasn't been very thorough.  Ronald Minnich
| (excuse any bad spelling) has been doing clustering with FreeBSD for _years_
| and has clusters of 64 and more (iirc) machines.  I'd appreciate if you did
| better research before you post such information to the lists.  It only
| serves to disinform those who search in the list archives.

I suspect the discussion here has diverged. Clearly Shaun and the first
respondant (who's name I can't see here - my apologies) are talking about
different sorts of clustering. The large clusters of 64 fairly clearly are
Beowulf style systems where a single task is broken down and sprayd across
many systems to gain processing advantage out of the parallelism of the
clustered systems.

But the question specifically asks about HA clustering (presumably something
like the commercial Vertias Cluster Services product we use on our Suns at
work). These systems typically have small numbers of systems running the
same software with a high speed interconnect to share state on. In the event
your main system fails, the clustered backup assumes the role invisibly.
That includes taking over IP addresses and having the same open connections,
with the same software running in the same state and so forth. (When we test
our VCS environments we routinely do so remotely with ssh and the shell we
do it from doesn't even see an interruption, although in practice we're
suddenly on completely different hardware).

So, I'd like to support the first respondants position. I am also not aware
of any HA clustering projects for FreeBSD, which as Shaun notes is not to
say that there aren't any out there.

On a final note, while I support Shaun's idea that the list should be kept
clean so that the archive forms a useful knowledge base, I'm not sure I can
support the sentiments that we must all be completely correct at all times.
The irony of Shaun's apparent misunderstanding of the question makes this
even more stark.


Have a good one guys,

Enno.




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Dimitry,

Take a look at Polyserve's LocalCluster 1.4 docs. at
http://www.polyserve.com/support/lc14docs.html#release

The current version which is called PolyServer Application
Manager 2.1 HA Clustering software does not support FreeBSD,
but their previous version, which is LocalCluster 1.4, does
support FreeBSD 3.2, 4.0 and 4.1, according to the
Administrator's Guide.

Hope that this helps.

Reinhold.



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>
>I'm trying to find as more as possible information about clustering
>software for/under FreeBSD. Could someone describe the real example of
>that and tells how strong/effective in real life that is ?
>
>Any information/suggestions/comments are welcome.
>
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>
>
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Wednesday, November 21, 2001, 1:41:23 AM, Enno Davids wrote:

> On Tue, 20 Nov 2001 09:42:27 +0100 Shaun Jurrens <shaun@shamz.net> wrote:
| #>>Hi,
| #>>
| #>>Unfortunately the searching I've done yields little or nothing, especially
| #>>if you are talking high-availability-type clustering. Seems the linux
| #>>people are the only ones doing any serious work on that - see
| #>>www.linux-ha.org. You might find some links to, or actual software, you
| #>>can use/port.
> | 
> |       Unfortunately this is not at all the case.  I don't know where you've
> | done your searching, but it hasn't been very thorough.  Ronald Minnich
> | (excuse any bad spelling) has been doing clustering with FreeBSD for _years_
> | and has clusters of 64 and more (iirc) machines.  I'd appreciate if you did
> | better research before you post such information to the lists.  It only
> | serves to disinform those who search in the list archives.

> I suspect the discussion here has diverged. Clearly Shaun and the first
> respondant (who's name I can't see here - my apologies) are talking about
> different sorts of clustering. The large clusters of 64 fairly clearly are
> Beowulf style systems where a single task is broken down and sprayd across
> many systems to gain processing advantage out of the parallelism of the
> clustered systems.

> But the question specifically asks about HA clustering (presumably something
> like the commercial Vertias Cluster Services product we use on our Suns at
> work).

You're totaly right !

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Tuesday, November 20, 2001, 10:42:27 AM, Shaun Jurrens wrote:

#>>Hi,
#>>
#>>Unfortunately the searching I've done yields little or nothing, especially
#>>if you are talking high-availability-type clustering. Seems the linux
#>>people are the only ones doing any serious work on that - see
#>>www.linux-ha.org. You might find some links to, or actual software, you
#>>can use/port.

>         Unfortunately this is not at all the case.  I don't know where you've
> done your searching, but it hasn't been very thorough.  Ronald Minnich
> (excuse any bad spelling) has been doing clustering with FreeBSD for _years_
> and has clusters of 64 and more (iirc) machines.  I'd appreciate if you did
> better research before you post such information to the lists.  It only
> serves to disinform those who search in the list archives.

> The biggest problem with those searching for "clustering" software usually
> is that they haven't defined "clustering" in combination with their needs.
> Your assumptions about what what Dmitry actually is looking for make your
> answer even less accurate.

Guys, I'm sorry for didn't explain that correctly.
Yes, I'm looking for HA software and your discussion makes me thinking
that this is not so simply as I thought :-(

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On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 09:18:44AM +1000, Colin Campbell wrote:
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#> 
#> On Tue, 20 Nov 2001, Shaun Jurrens wrote:
#> 
#> > #>Hi,
#> > #>
#> > #>Unfortunately the searching I've done yields little or nothing, especially
#> > #>if you are talking high-availability-type clustering. Seems the linux
#> > #>people are the only ones doing any serious work on that - see
#> > #>www.linux-ha.org. You might find some links to, or actual software, you
#> > #>can use/port.
#> >
#> > 	Unfortunately this is not at all the case.  I don't know where you've
#> > done your searching, but it hasn't been very thorough.  Ronald Minnich
#> > (excuse any bad spelling) has been doing clustering with FreeBSD for _years_
#> > and has clusters of 64 and more (iirc) machines.  I'd appreciate if you did
#> > better research before you post such information to the lists.  It only
#> > serves to disinform those who search in the list archives.
#> 
#> 64 hosts doesn't sound to me like high availability clustering (on which
#> my reply was based - read it again). It sounds more like beowulf-style
#> clustering. Since Dimitry didn't specify what he was looking for I tried
#> to qualify my answer by limiting it to HA clusters.

	What you want to call "clustering" sounds like load-balancing with
fail-over.  There are a lot of ways to skin this cat.  The work that Ronald
Minnich does (to be found here: http://www.acl.lanl.gov/~rminnich/ ) is much
closer to co-operative computing (for lack of a better word at the moment)
than any heartbeat based load-balancing web server.  There is a vrrp port
and in the lists there was, iirc, also work on a heartbeat daemon (last
year) for fbsd, which may actually be part of the vrrp port.
#> 
#> If you know of such HA clustering software, tell all of us. There have
#> been quite a few requests for clustering software over the years. I have
#> never seen anyone reply with anything like the linux-ha project. Maybe
#> FreeBSD is so good, clustering software isn't needed. And before you jump
#> down my throat, I run fbsd on my desktop and my two squid servers are
#> fbsd.
#> 
#> > The biggest problem with those searching for "clustering" software usually
#> > is that they haven't defined "clustering" in combination with their needs.
#> > Your assumptions about what what Dmitry actually is looking for make your
#> > answer even less accurate.
#> 
#> Read my reply again. I pretty much specified "high availability
#> clustering" because Dimitry did not qulaify his search. I figured all the
#> beowulf style paralle computing clusters were os independent (or pretty
#> much so) and therefore easily found and that's why I left them out.

	Beowulf clustering is pretty much an insult to clustering.  I'd suggest
you avoid using that term to describe any serious clustering work.  Ronald
describes his work as Metacomputing.  Either way, HA clusting is stretching
it, imho, and your assumption (even though correct), about what Dmitry
wanted wasn't based on anything more than what you wanted to reply to.
There are many organisations that use 1k+ fbsd server parks to do
"high-availability" work without banging the gong about "HA Clustering"

Either way, I don't have more to say. EOD.
#> 
#> > #>
#> > #>On Mon, 19 Nov 2001, Dmitry Alyabyev wrote:
#> > #>
#> > #>> Hello
#> > #>>
#> > #>> I'm trying to find as more as possible information about clustering
#> > #>> software for/under FreeBSD. Could someone describe the real example of
#> > #>> that and tells how strong/effective in real life that is ?
#> > #>
#> > #>Colin
#> >
#> > P.S. This is a reply that I cut-n-wasted from the ML archives. I'm not on
#> > the list, so if you think I should get your mail, use CC:
#> >
#> >
#> 
#> Colin
#> --
#> Colin Campbell
#> Unix Support/Postmaster/Hostmaster
#> CITEC
#> +61 7 3006 4710
#> 

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Howdy

releng4.freebsd.org seems to be out of space or something to that
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++ 21/11/01 17:11 +0200 - Dmitry Alyabyev:
| Howdy
| 
| releng4.freebsd.org seems to be out of space or something to that
| effect. Can somebody alarm these guys ?

According to jkh, this was fixed earlier today.

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On Wed, Nov 21, 2001 at 03:28:18PM -0500, Pete Fritchman wrote:
> ++ 21/11/01 17:11 +0200 - Dmitry Alyabyev:
> | Howdy
> | 
> | releng4.freebsd.org seems to be out of space or something to that
> | effect. Can somebody alarm these guys ?
> 
> According to jkh, this was fixed earlier today.
> 
> -pete
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Wonder if someone could kick another build. I had a few days ago
installed 20011112 from releng4, but that one is gone. Last one
with non-zero files is 20011109 now, 20011120 and 20011121 is
still zero bytes.

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* Jeremy C. Reed <reed@reedmedia.net> [20011122 04:19]: writing on the subject '(za8Y) BOUNCE vm-pop3d-users@lists.kmv.ru:    Non-member submission from [W a s h i n g t o n <JUNK-FILTER@wananchi.com>] (fwd)'
| Odhiambo,
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| Please fix your autoresponder!
| 
| Do not have it autoreply to mailing lists.
| 
| I know you are on the Exim mailing list. Recently there was some
| discussion on making sure your autoresponder behaves correctly.

Hello Jeremy & the others who I got annoyed,

My autoresponder was sorted out. Yesterday after subscribing to vm-pop3d-users, I went to add
the list name to the mailbot and kinda made a fatal error.

(list1|\
list2|\
list3|
vm-pop3d-users|)

That ommission in the line continuation has caused so much grief to me and almost the
whole world. At some point such fuck-ups come in because of so much pressure around.

I highly regret it.


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Hello.

I need to combine the passwd files from a FreeBSD 2.2.6 system, and a RedHat
Linux 6.1 system into the current passwd file on a new FreeBSD 4.4 system
that i'm building.

What's the best way to goabout this?

(I dont cair that home dirs wont be created [infact i dont want them, as
this is a mail only system])


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Hello.

I need to combine the passwd files from a FreeBSD 2.2.6 system, and a RedHat
Linux 6.1 system into the current passwd file on a new FreeBSD 4.4 system
that i'm building.

What's the best way to goabout this?

(I dont cair that home dirs wont be created [infact i dont want them, as
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* curl@tcc-comp.com.au <curl@tcc-comp.com.au> [20011122 10:41]: writing on =
the subject 'combining passwd files'
|=20
| Hello.
|=20
| I need to combine the passwd files from a FreeBSD 2.2.6 system, and a Red=
Hat
| Linux 6.1 system into the current passwd file on a new FreeBSD 4.4 system
| that i'm building.
|=20
| What's the best way to goabout this?


Hello Stephen,

I was in a similar situation a while back and someone gave me this procedur=
e:

##
run pwunconv on the Linux end, copy it over to freebsd, run

awk < passwd.linux > /etc/master.passwd 'BEGIN { FS =3D ":"} { print $1 ":"=
 $2
":" $3 ":" $4 "::0:0:" $5 ":" $6 ":" $7 }'

run pwd_mkdb, and you should be set.
##

I did not quite use it because some guys had done most of the stuff manuall=
y.

Lemme know if that helps.



-Wash

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Panda Antivirus has found the following viruses in the message:
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Panda Antivirus has found the following viruses in the message:
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How can one tell that DSO support is working in Apache?

According to PHP 4.x to install it needs mod_so.c. (yes thats why I'm
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I have been running 1.3.19 of apche for about 5 months now or so and do a
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So I recompiled apache using: ./configure --enable-rule=SHARED_CORE

Still dont see mod_so.c when doing an httpd -l. Though now when apache
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/usr/local/apache/bin/httpd (libhttpd.ep)

Or should I compile with --enable-module=so instead? The INSTALL docs say
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On Fri, Nov 23, 2001 at 02:48:09AM -0800, Keith Woodworth wrote:
> 
> How can one tell that DSO support is working in Apache?
> 
> According to PHP 4.x to install it needs mod_so.c. (yes thats why I'm
> doing this...want PHP for a project I'm working on)
> 
> I have been running 1.3.19 of apche for about 5 months now or so and do a
> httpd -l and dont see that mod in the list.
> 
> So I recompiled apache using: ./configure --enable-rule=SHARED_CORE
> 
> Still dont see mod_so.c when doing an httpd -l. Though now when apache
> starts it shows:
> 
> /usr/local/apache/bin/httpd (libhttpd.ep)
> 
> Or should I compile with --enable-module=so instead? The INSTALL docs say
> you can use either to enable DSO support.

exactly.  then you configure php with --with-apxs, and it'll work ok (after
commenting out the LoadModule libphp4.so in the apache config).

> 
> thanks for any info,
> Keith
> 
> 
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greetings,
Wojtek

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My server was just attacked.........someone tried logging in telnet, and =
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Op za  24 nov, 2001 om 02:32:07pm -0500, schreef Bill A. K.:
> My server was just attacked.........someone tried logging in telnet, and apparently shut down the telnet daemon from trying (over 400 times)....theres NOTHING in the logs, the ips were on the screen, but stupid me started typing stuff and now they're gone. Is there a way to get back what was on the screen, like a history of stdout? Please, someone help, asap, I would really appreciate it.

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++ 24/11/01 14:32 -0500 - Bill A. K.:
| My server was just attacked.........someone tried logging in telnet, and
| apparently shut down the telnet daemon from trying (over 400 times)....theres
| NOTHING in the logs, the ips were on the screen, but stupid me started typing
| stuff and now they're gone. Is there a way to get back what was on the
| screen, like a history of stdout? Please, someone help, asap, I would really
| appreciate it.

You might want to look through other logs in /var/log and see if you can
find these messages.  If not, you can add the following line to your
syslog.conf to log all console output:

console.info				/var/log/console.log
(make sure you use tabs)

-pete

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Bill A. K. wrote:

> My server was just attacked.........someone tried logging in telnet, and 
> apparently shut down the telnet daemon from trying (over 400 
> times)....theres NOTHING in the logs, the ips were on the screen, but 
> stupid me started typing stuff and now they're gone. Is there a way to 
> get back what was on the screen, like a history of stdout? Please, 
> someone help, asap, I would really appreciate it.


These messages most probably were logged...

Have a look in /var/log/messages /var/log/security etc...


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