From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 25 4:33:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sanyu1.sanyutel.com (sanyu1.sanyutel.com [216.250.215.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36C2437B417 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 04:33:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ksemat@localhost) by sanyu1.sanyutel.com (8.11.3/) with ESMTP id fAPCZps16598; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 15:35:54 +0300 X-Authentication-Warning: sanyu1.sanyutel.com: ksemat owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 15:35:51 +0300 (EAT) From: X-X-Sender: To: "Bill A. K." Cc: Subject: Re: Attack on server, need help ASAP In-Reply-To: <000a01c1751e$b4fe5500$6501a8c0@bill> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 24 Nov 2001, Bill A. K. wrote: > My server was just attacked.........someone tried logging in telnet, and apparently shut down the telnet daemon from trying (over 400 times)....theres NOTHING in the logs, the ips were on the screen, but stupid me started typing stuff and now they're gone. Is there a way to get back what was on the screen, like a history of stdout? Please, someone help, asap, I would really appreciate it. Not a solution to your problem but I may as well ask: 1.Why are you running telnet when there is ssh? 2. Is your Freebsd machine patched against the telnetd exploit which was relased some months ago? if nto start looking for signs of intrusion and thhink of a reinstall. 3. Do a cvsup to the latest release or stable version of freeBSD. Noah. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 25 5: 8:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from server.fox56.tv (svcr-adsl-199-224-119-238.epix.net [199.224.119.238]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 055B737B405 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 05:08:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from bill (bill.fox56.tv [192.168.1.101]) by server.fox56.tv (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fAPDGJX01710; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 08:16:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from billak@fox56.tv) Message-ID: <001901c175b1$df3a36c0$6501a8c0@bill> From: "Bill A. K." To: Cc: References: Subject: Re: Attack on server, need help ASAP Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 08:05:34 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2505.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2505.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nope, it isn't, I've been meaning to reinstall anyways to the latest FreeBSD...I guess this will just be more reason to do so. Thanks everybody, Bill billak@fox56.tv ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Bill A. K." Cc: Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 7:35 AM Subject: Re: Attack on server, need help ASAP > > > On Sat, 24 Nov 2001, Bill A. K. wrote: > > > My server was just attacked.........someone tried logging in telnet, and apparently shut down the telnet daemon from trying (over 400 times)....theres NOTHING in the logs, the ips were on the screen, but stupid me started typing stuff and now they're gone. Is there a way to get back what was on the screen, like a history of stdout? Please, someone help, asap, I would really appreciate it. > > Not a solution to your problem but I may as well ask: > > 1.Why are you running telnet when there is ssh? > 2. Is your Freebsd machine patched against the telnetd exploit which was > relased some months ago? if nto start looking for signs of intrusion and > thhink of a reinstall. > > 3. Do a cvsup to the latest release or stable version of freeBSD. > > Noah. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 25 7:18:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from wildcatblue.com (flanders.wildcatblue.com [206.157.147.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039FB37B417 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 07:18:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from vghker (unknown [206.157.147.77]) by wildcatblue.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 0ABF885B28; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 10:38:33 +0000 (GMT) Message-ID: <000b01c175c4$534364d0$4d939dce@vghker> From: "David Rhodus" To: Cc: References: Subject: Re: Attack on server, need help ASAP Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 10:17:40 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org First thing thing you want to look is 'ps auxgw' and see if there is anything running that you don't know about. Next make sure you have lsof installed then run, 'lsof | grep LISTEN' and see what all taking connections If then you still don't see anything out of order try doing a cvsup. If it is a machine that you can take offline for a bit, i would and do a fresh install Hope that helps. Thanks, David Rhodus ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Bill A. K." Cc: Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 7:35 AM Subject: Re: Attack on server, need help ASAP > > > On Sat, 24 Nov 2001, Bill A. K. wrote: > > > My server was just attacked.........someone tried logging in telnet, and apparently shut down the telnet daemon from trying (over 400 times)....theres NOTHING in the logs, the ips were on the screen, but stupid me started typing stuff and now they're gone. Is there a way to get back what was on the screen, like a history of stdout? Please, someone help, asap, I would really appreciate it. > > Not a solution to your problem but I may as well ask: > > 1.Why are you running telnet when there is ssh? > 2. Is your Freebsd machine patched against the telnetd exploit which was > relased some months ago? if nto start looking for signs of intrusion and > thhink of a reinstall. > > 3. Do a cvsup to the latest release or stable version of freeBSD. > > Noah. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 25 9:46:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web20102.mail.yahoo.com (web20102.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 51A1037B416 for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 09:46:33 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <20011125174633.8125.qmail@web20102.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [62.11.68.116] by web20102.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 18:46:33 CET Date: Sun, 25 Nov 2001 18:46:33 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Fabrizio=20Ravazzini?= Subject: ezmlm for many subscribers To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, I have a big text file with the e-mail address of many people working for other associated firms. 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Per saperne di più vai alla pagina: http://it.ie.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 25 13:54:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.whitcraft.com (mail.whitcraft.com [209.150.13.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E884F37B417; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 13:54:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from ykbd [206.215.143.106] by mail.whitcraft.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-4.06) id A923485009C; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 16:56:51 EDT From: ntukunwytj8@msn.com Subject: Read this for details Date: Sun, 25 Nov 101 16:58:54 EDT Message-Id: <20011125215436.E884F37B417@hub.freebsd.org> To: undisclosed-recipients:; Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Stop Searching And Start Earning Begin The Winter Of 2001 With distributorships in your area readily available. 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For A Free Investment Package Follow the link below http://3468642680/~gung/biz1/ Remve me fron any furhter mailings mailto:ardgiepohbgim@yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Nov 25 14:51:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from corey.datafast.net.au (corey.datafast.net.au [203.123.67.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 906D737B44B for ; Sun, 25 Nov 2001 14:51:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 1678 invoked by uid 1000); 25 Nov 2001 22:51:30 -0000 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 09:51:30 +1100 From: Corey Ralph To: Fabrizio Ravazzini Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ezmlm for many subscribers Message-ID: <20011126095130.F30179@corey.datafast.net.au> References: <20011125174633.8125.qmail@web20102.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20011125174633.8125.qmail@web20102.mail.yahoo.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Try something like: ezmlm-sub dir `cat yourlistfile` Cheers On 25/11/01 18:46 +0100, Fabrizio Ravazzini wrote: > Hello all, I have a big text file with the e-mail > address of many people working for other associated > firms. > This firm wants to subscribe them to a mailing list, > I've installed ezmlm with q-mail on a server. > Is there a way to tell ezmlm to subscribe all the > people in the file? 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For A Free Investment Package Follow the link below http://3468642680/~gung/biz1/ Remve me fron any furhter mailings mailto:ardgiepohbgim@yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 26 10:17:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hawk-systems.com (hawk-systems.com [161.58.152.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5827C37B417 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 10:17:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from cr159591a (CPE00A00CC12AF5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.102.18.54]) by hawk-systems.com (8.11.6) id fAQIHBH12764 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 11:17:11 -0700 (MST) From: "Dave VanAuken" To: Subject: FreeBSD game server? namely counterstrike Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 13:19:52 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Have received a few requests now from dialup and DSL users regarding running a game server (counterstrike mainly, but others as well). Am looking for the following from this list; 1) load both in CPU and bandwidth per user averages? 2) doable on FreeBSD (prefer not to run other OS just to facilitate this request)? 3) pitfalls, warnings, experiences, and so forth. This is not a high priority for the support team, but sales and marketing is looking at monthly revenue for this service going elsewhere and wondering the cost to provide similar services internally. Appreciate and constructive responses. Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 26 10:32:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.kka.com (smtp.kka.com [63.141.65.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F009A37B41B for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 10:32:46 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: FreeBSD game server? namely counterstrike To: "Dave VanAuken" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:29:53 -0600 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Notes1st/Keno(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 11/26/2001 12:29:55 PM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Been running one on freebsd for quite some time. 1 - Cpu usage varies per map so it's hard to give a per player answer. A p2-400 with 512M of ram will run 16 players on every map out there without exceeding 60% utilization. Anything p3-500 plus is plenty of machine. Feed it as much ram as possible. If you're going to run multiple c-s games on one physical machine, allocate at least 128M of ram per game. 2 - Bandwidth per player (thanks MRTG) is a hair less than 3kb/s. A 16 player server consumes a little less than 1/3 a T1 (up and down). * All the info you need for questions 1 and 2 can be found in the server op forums at www.counter-strike.net 3 - I've had no problems running it on FreeBSD. I've also had no trouble running a lot of the extra bells and whistles people inevitably want to see. AdminMod, Psychostats, etc. So far every c-s item that's been released for linux will run on FreeBSD under linux emulation. The BIG advantage here is that the server isn't as likely to get hacked by players who get banned for whatever reason. FreeBSD doesn't draw quite as many script kids as linux. 4 - I have friends who run game hosting companies and they make a few bucks off it. The only warning I could offer is pay attention to your log files. You are attracting the attention of a lot of 15-20 year old kids who think that being on the internet means they can act however they please and when they do something that gets them banned (like logging in and shouting out racist slurs for fun) they will come back for revenge. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Eric Stanfield, K2Access Keno Kozie Associates 222 N LaSalle #1500 Chicago, IL 60606 (312) 332-3000 "Dave VanAuken" com> cc: Sent by: Subject: FreeBSD game server? namely counterstrike owner-freebsd-isp@F reeBSD.ORG 11/26/2001 12:19 PM Have received a few requests now from dialup and DSL users regarding running a game server (counterstrike mainly, but others as well). Am looking for the following from this list; 1) load both in CPU and bandwidth per user averages? 2) doable on FreeBSD (prefer not to run other OS just to facilitate this request)? 3) pitfalls, warnings, experiences, and so forth. This is not a high priority for the support team, but sales and marketing is looking at monthly revenue for this service going elsewhere and wondering the cost to provide similar services internally. Appreciate and constructive responses. Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 26 14:52:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (dhcp.looksmart.com.au [202.53.47.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 36EDE37B419 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 14:52:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fAQMq8o00590; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:52:10 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from msergeant@snsonline.net) Message-Id: <200111262252.fAQMq8o00590@xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Mark Sergeant" To: Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com, "Dave VanAuken" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD game server? namely counterstrike X-Mailer: Pronto v2.2.6 On freebsd/mysql Date: 26 Nov 2001 17:52:06 EST Reply-To: "Mark Sergeant" In-Reply-To: References: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I agree with this entire post but need to add one thing if you are doing other things than running CS ensure that you have at least a 600mhz machine and @ least 512MB ram. My cs server runs on the same machine as I do web hosting. The machine is now a 1GHZ duron with 1.5GB of RAM and it does not break a sweat with serving 100k web impressions a day and running a 14 person web server, it also runs admin mod etc as well. To install the basics for a server go into /usr/ports/games/hlserver-cs/ which will install HL1108 and CS1.3 . Cheers, Mark On Mon, 26 Nov 2001 12:29:53 -0600, Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com said: > > Been running one on freebsd for quite some time. > > 1 - Cpu usage varies per map so it's hard to give a per player answer. A > p2-400 with 512M of ram will run 16 players on every map out there without > exceeding 60% utilization. Anything p3-500 plus is plenty of machine. > Feed it as much ram as possible. If you're going to run multiple c-s games > on one physical machine, allocate at least 128M of ram per game. > > 2 - Bandwidth per player (thanks MRTG) is a hair less than 3kb/s. A 16 > player server consumes a little less than 1/3 a T1 (up and down). > > * All the info you need for questions 1 and 2 can be found in the server op > forums at www.counter-strike.net > > 3 - I've had no problems running it on FreeBSD. I've also had no trouble > running a lot of the extra bells and whistles people inevitably want to > see. AdminMod, Psychostats, etc. So far every c-s item that's been > released for linux will run on FreeBSD under linux emulation. The BIG > advantage here is that the server isn't as likely to get hacked by players > who get banned for whatever reason. FreeBSD doesn't draw quite as many > script kids as linux. > > 4 - I have friends who run game hosting companies and they make a few bucks > off it. The only warning I could offer is pay attention to your log files. > You are attracting the attention of a lot of 15-20 year old kids who think > that being on the internet means they can act however they please and when > they do something that gets them banned (like logging in and shouting out > racist slurs for fun) they will come back for revenge. > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > Eric Stanfield, K2Access > Keno Kozie Associates > 222 N LaSalle #1500 > Chicago, IL 60606 > (312) 332-3000 > > > > > > "Dave VanAuken" > > com> cc: > Sent by: Subject: FreeBSD game server? namely counterstrike > owner-freebsd-isp@F > reeBSD.ORG > > > 11/26/2001 12:19 PM > > > > > > Have received a few requests now from dialup and DSL users regarding > running a > game server (counterstrike mainly, but others as well). > > Am looking for the following from this list; > > 1) load both in CPU and bandwidth per user averages? > 2) doable on FreeBSD (prefer not to run other OS just to facilitate this > request)? > 3) pitfalls, warnings, experiences, and so forth. > > This is not a high priority for the support team, but sales and marketing > is > looking at monthly revenue for this service going elsewhere and wondering > the > cost to provide similar services internally. > > Appreciate and constructive responses. > > Dave > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > -- Mark Sergeant | url: http://www.snsonline.net/ Unix Systems Administrator | email: msergeant@snsonline.net disclaimer: http://www.snsonline.net/disclaimer/ | mobile: +61 4 1271 42631 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 26 17:50:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from stella.pyramus.com (stella.pyramus.com [206.129.206.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AAD537B41A for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 17:50:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from pyramus.com (dark-star.pyramus.com [206.129.206.6]) by stella.pyramus.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA05799 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 17:50:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blake@pyramus.com) Message-ID: <3C02F13D.AA1D7ABC@pyramus.com> Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 17:49:49 -0800 From: Blake Swensen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Whaaa? /var/log/messages weirdness? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This appeared in /var/log/messages on one of my machines.... anyone seen this before? Nov 26 01:58:22 myhost rpc.statd: invalid hostname to sm_stat: ^X÷ÿ¿^X÷ÿ¿^Y÷ÿ¿^Y÷ÿ¿^Z÷ÿ¿^Z÷ÿ¿^[÷ÿ¿^[÷ÿ¿%8x%8x%8x%8x%8x%8x%8x%8x%8x%236x%n%137x%n%10x%n%192x%nM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^P This immediately followed a NIS server coming back to life... but I thought I would ask to make sure that there is not a hack going on here. Peace, Blake To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 26 18: 3: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hex.databits.net (hex.databits.net [207.29.192.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6BC0437B419 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 18:03:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 15162 invoked by uid 1001); 27 Nov 2001 02:02:55 -0000 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:02:55 -0500 From: Pete Fritchman To: Blake Swensen Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Whaaa? /var/log/messages weirdness? Message-ID: <20011126210255.A14739@databits.net> References: <3C02F13D.AA1D7ABC@pyramus.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3C02F13D.AA1D7ABC@pyramus.com>; from blake@pyramus.com on Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 05:49:49PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ++ 26/11/01 17:49 -0800 - Blake Swensen: | This appeared in /var/log/messages on one of my machines.... anyone seen | this before? | [ snip linux rpc.statd exploit attempt ] Please search the archives before posting. This is covered a lot.. this is an attempt to exploit a Linux rpc.statd bug; your FreeBSD machine is not vulnerable. -pete -- Pete Fritchman [petef@(databits.net|freebsd.org|csh.rit.edu)] finger petef@databits.net for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 26 18:14:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail1.tor.primus.ca (mail.tor.primus.ca [216.254.136.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C60837B41A for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 18:14:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from dialin-135-109.hamilton.primus.ca ([209.90.135.109]) by mail1.tor.primus.ca with esmtp (Exim 2.11 #1) id 168Xnh-0001Zd-05; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:16:46 -0500 Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 21:14:23 -0500 (EST) From: Jason Hunt X-X-Sender: leth@lethargic.dyndns.org To: Blake Swensen Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Whaaa? /var/log/messages weirdness? In-Reply-To: <3C02F13D.AA1D7ABC@pyramus.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I belive that is an rpc exploit, that was patched a while ago, however I am not sure of any details. On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Blake Swensen wrote: > This appeared in /var/log/messages on one of my machines.... anyone seen > this before? > > Nov 26 01:58:22 myhost rpc.statd: invalid hostname to sm_stat: > ^X=F7=FF=BF^X=F7=FF=BF^Y=F7=FF=BF^Y=F7=FF=BF^Z=F7=FF=BF^Z=F7=FF=BF^[=F7= =FF=BF^[=F7=FF=BF%8x%8x%8x%8x%8x%8x%8x%8x%8x%236x%n%137x%n%10x%n%192x%nM-^P= M-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^= PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-= ^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM= -^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^P= M-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^= PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-= ^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM= -^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^P= M-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^= PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-= ^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM= -^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^PM-^P > > This immediately followed a NIS server coming back to life... but I > thought I would ask to make sure that there is not a hack going on here. > > Peace, > Blake > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 26 18:19:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtpg.casema.net (smtpg.casema.net [195.96.96.160]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0576737B405 for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 18:19:09 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 3367 invoked by uid 0); 27 Nov 2001 02:19:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO scorn.diderius.nl) (212.64.78.6) by smtpg.casema.net with SMTP; 27 Nov 2001 02:19:03 -0000 Received: from parallax.diderius.nl (parallax.diderius.nl [172.18.4.1]) by scorn.diderius.nl (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id fAR2I5N01432 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 03:18:05 +0100 Received: from 172.19.3.10 (silver.ftx.diderius.nl [172.19.3.10]) by parallax.diderius.nl (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id fAR2J0l00657 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 03:19:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from walter@binity.com) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 03:17:57 +0100 From: Walter Hop X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) Educational X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <11525977353.20011127031757@binity.com> To: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Firewalling a CIFS fileserver from the evil world. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I've been trying to firewall some Samba fileservers off from a LAN while retaining (only) CIFS traffic. As I have found some old hardware that can function as a small time gateway, I'd like to put the fileservers on a separate Ethernet. .--------. | samba1 |-----. `--------' | .---[ windows workstation ] .--------. | .---------. +-- [ windows workstation ] | samba2 |--+---| gateway |---+- [ windows workstation ] `--------' `---------' +-- ..... | .------. | adsl |--/. `------' (The samba* and gateway are FreeBSD boxes) I would like the Samba fileservers to be only reachable via the CIFS protocol (they should be able to query other boxes too) and deny any other traffic, and I wonder what ipfw rules I could inject into the gateway so the samba servers have some sense of "physical" security. Is there anybody who has a ipfw-ruleset that allows (nothing but) CIFS traffic, or can point me in the direction of a good description of the CIFS protocol so I can make a better attempt? I guess it has been done before, but could not find anything useful on the web... Thanks in advance! w. -- Walter Hop Updated contact information: http://www.binity.com/~walter/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Nov 26 20:52: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.away.net (away.net [208.194.163.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2DC637B41A for ; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 20:52:01 -0800 (PST) Received: (from driz@localhost) by mail.away.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fAR03b463590 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 26 Nov 2001 19:03:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from driz) Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2001 19:03:37 -0500 From: David Friedman To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: GNU Radius "Port-Limit" help Message-ID: <20011126190336.A63496@mail> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Info: http://www.away.net/ X-Uptime: 7:01PM up 31 days, 21:03, 2 users, load averages: 0.04, 0.06, 0.07 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm aware that setting "Simultaneous-Use" to "2" accomplishes the same thing, but Qwest is requiring my radius to pass the "Port-Limit" attribute. That being said, here's what happens when I use it: client side: Reply-Message = "Simultaneous login limit exceeded!" Access denied. server side (radius.log): Nov 26 18:54:03: Auth: Login OK: [test]: CLID unknown Here's my test users file: DEFAULT Auth-Type = Accept, Simultaneous-Use = 2 Port-Limit = 2, Service-Type = Framed-User, Framed-Protocol = PPP, Session-Timeout = 28800, Idle-Timeout = 900 Please advise. -- David Friedman - http://www.away.net/ Windows: "Where do you want to go today?" Linux: "Where do you want to go tomorrow?" BSD: "Are you guys coming or what?" 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From: To: Subject: ScanMail Message: To Recipient virus found and action taken. Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 09:32:00 +0100 Message-ID: <00e001c1771d$fc041f10$1009000a@qbranch.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Microsoft CDO for Exchange 2000 Content-Class: urn:content-classes:message Importance: normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Nov 2001 08:32:01.0256 (UTC) FILETIME=[FC3AE680:01C1771D] Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ScanMail for Microsoft Exchange has detected virus-infected attachment(s). Sender = ATq{± Recipient(s) = freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject = Re: Scanning Time = 11/27/2001 09:31:58 Engine/Pattern = 5.600-1011/171 Action on virus found: The attachment Sorry_about_yesterday.MP3.pif contains WORM_BADTRANS.B virus. ScanMail has Moved it. The attachment was moved to C:\Program Files\Trend\Smex\Virus\Sorry_about_yesterday.MP33c034f7e36.pif_. Warning to recipient. ScanMail has detected a virus. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 27 2:49:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gx.dnepr.net (gx.dnepr.net [217.198.131.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0582537B41D for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 02:49:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from land@localhost) by gx.dnepr.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fARAnBa24039; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:49:11 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from land) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:49:11 +0200 From: Andrey To: Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD game server? namely counterstrike Message-ID: <20011127124911.A23914@gx.dnepr.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com on Mon, Nov 26, 2001 at 12:29:53 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Eric_Stanfield! On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com wrote: > Been running one on freebsd for quite some time. > > 3 - I've had no problems running it on FreeBSD. I've also had no trouble > running a lot of the extra bells and whistles people inevitably want to > see. AdminMod, Psychostats, etc. So far every c-s item that's been > released for linux will run on FreeBSD under linux emulation. The BIG > advantage here is that the server isn't as likely to get hacked by players > who get banned for whatever reason. FreeBSD doesn't draw quite as many > script kids as linux. I'v installed halflifeserver under FreeBSD 4.4-R and tried to run it. But without much success. [/compat/linux/usr/games/hlds_l]$ ./hlds_run Sys_LoadLibrary: Couldn't determine current directory. [/compat/linux/usr/games/hlds_l]$ Linux emulation module loaded. -- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 27 5:10:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shack.mine.nu (dsl94112.dyndsl.nettally.com [199.44.94.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70FD437B417 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 05:10:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by shack.mine.nu (Postfix, from userid 2901) id B7B3616A; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 08:11:38 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shack.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id B44B744; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 08:11:38 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 08:11:38 -0500 (EST) From: Tyler To: Andrey Cc: , Subject: Re: FreeBSD game server? namely counterstrike In-Reply-To: <20011127124911.A23914@gx.dnepr.net> Message-ID: <20011127081010.F48761-100000@shack.mine.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/compat/linux/usr/games/hlds_L:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH ./hlds_run -game cstrike +map cs_assualt Try that, or look at http://server.counter-strike.net Tyler - Owner/Administrator Shack Networks - XeraNet Web Services http://shack.mine.nu - http://www.xeranet.org On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Andrey wrote: > Hi Eric_Stanfield! > > On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com wrote: > > > Been running one on freebsd for quite some time. > > > > 3 - I've had no problems running it on FreeBSD. I've also had no trouble > > running a lot of the extra bells and whistles people inevitably want to > > see. AdminMod, Psychostats, etc. So far every c-s item that's been > > released for linux will run on FreeBSD under linux emulation. The BIG > > advantage here is that the server isn't as likely to get hacked by players > > who get banned for whatever reason. FreeBSD doesn't draw quite as many > > script kids as linux. > > I'v installed halflifeserver under FreeBSD 4.4-R and tried to run it. > But without much success. > > [/compat/linux/usr/games/hlds_l]$ ./hlds_run > Sys_LoadLibrary: Couldn't determine current directory. > > [/compat/linux/usr/games/hlds_l]$ > > Linux emulation module loaded. > > -- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 27 7:54:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gx.dnepr.net (gx.dnepr.net [217.198.131.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1417637B405 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 07:54:22 -0800 (PST) Received: (from land@localhost) by gx.dnepr.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fARFrwI35504; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:53:58 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from land) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 17:53:57 +0200 From: Andrey To: Tyler Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD game server? namely counterstrike Message-ID: <20011127175357.A35335@gx.dnepr.net> References: <20011127124911.A23914@gx.dnepr.net> <20011127081010.F48761-100000@shack.mine.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011127081010.F48761-100000@shack.mine.nu>; from tjr@shack.mine.nu on Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 08:11:38 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Tyler! On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Tyler wrote: > export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/compat/linux/usr/games/hlds_L:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH > ./hlds_run -game cstrike +map cs_assualt Result is the same. Sys_LoadLibrary: Couldn't determine current directory. > Try that, or look at http://server.counter-strike.net > > Tyler - Owner/Administrator > Shack Networks - XeraNet Web Services > http://shack.mine.nu - http://www.xeranet.org > > On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Andrey wrote: > > > Hi Eric_Stanfield! > > > > On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com wrote: > > > > > Been running one on freebsd for quite some time. > > > > > > 3 - I've had no problems running it on FreeBSD. I've also had no trouble > > > running a lot of the extra bells and whistles people inevitably want to > > > see. AdminMod, Psychostats, etc. So far every c-s item that's been > > > released for linux will run on FreeBSD under linux emulation. The BIG > > > advantage here is that the server isn't as likely to get hacked by players > > > who get banned for whatever reason. FreeBSD doesn't draw quite as many > > > script kids as linux. > > > > I'v installed halflifeserver under FreeBSD 4.4-R and tried to run it. > > But without much success. > > > > [/compat/linux/usr/games/hlds_l]$ ./hlds_run > > Sys_LoadLibrary: Couldn't determine current directory. > > > > [/compat/linux/usr/games/hlds_l]$ > > > > Linux emulation module loaded. > > > > -- > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > -- land-ripe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 27 12:56:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shack.mine.nu (dsl94112.dyndsl.nettally.com [199.44.94.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BE3A37B405 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 12:56:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by shack.mine.nu (Postfix, from userid 2901) id C6AE116A; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:57:49 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shack.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id C529244; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:57:49 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 15:57:49 -0500 (EST) From: Tyler To: Andrey Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD game server? namely counterstrike In-Reply-To: <20011127175357.A35335@gx.dnepr.net> Message-ID: <20011127155729.G53353-100000@shack.mine.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org oops, I typed hlds_L and thats supposed to be hlds_l, that might have been the problem. Tyler - Owner/Administrator Shack Networks - XeraNet Web Services http://shack.mine.nu - http://www.xeranet.org On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Andrey wrote: > Hi Tyler! > > On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Tyler wrote: > > > export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/compat/linux/usr/games/hlds_L:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH > > ./hlds_run -game cstrike +map cs_assualt > > Result is the same. > Sys_LoadLibrary: Couldn't determine current directory. > > > Try that, or look at http://server.counter-strike.net > > > > Tyler - Owner/Administrator > > Shack Networks - XeraNet Web Services > > http://shack.mine.nu - http://www.xeranet.org > > > > On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Andrey wrote: > > > > > Hi Eric_Stanfield! > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com wrote: > > > > > > > Been running one on freebsd for quite some time. > > > > > > > > 3 - I've had no problems running it on FreeBSD. I've also had no trouble > > > > running a lot of the extra bells and whistles people inevitably want to > > > > see. AdminMod, Psychostats, etc. So far every c-s item that's been > > > > released for linux will run on FreeBSD under linux emulation. The BIG > > > > advantage here is that the server isn't as likely to get hacked by players > > > > who get banned for whatever reason. FreeBSD doesn't draw quite as many > > > > script kids as linux. > > > > > > I'v installed halflifeserver under FreeBSD 4.4-R and tried to run it. > > > But without much success. > > > > > > [/compat/linux/usr/games/hlds_l]$ ./hlds_run > > > Sys_LoadLibrary: Couldn't determine current directory. > > > > > > [/compat/linux/usr/games/hlds_l]$ > > > > > > Linux emulation module loaded. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > -- > land-ripe > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 27 14:10:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gx.dnepr.net (gx.dnepr.net [217.198.131.109]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4563737B405 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 14:10:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (from land@localhost) by gx.dnepr.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fARMAO241917; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:10:24 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from land) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:10:24 +0200 From: Andrey To: Tyler Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD game server? namely counterstrike Message-ID: <20011128001024.A41644@gx.dnepr.net> References: <20011127175357.A35335@gx.dnepr.net> <20011127155729.G53353-100000@shack.mine.nu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20011127155729.G53353-100000@shack.mine.nu>; from tjr@shack.mine.nu on Tue, Nov 27, 2001 at 15:57:49 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Tyler! On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Tyler wrote: > oops, I typed hlds_L and thats supposed to be hlds_l, that might have been > the problem. > No this is not a problem. I wrote correct path. /usr/games/hlds_l is in /compat/linux/etc/ld.so.conf and /compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig -p shows that one library from that directory was found (libhlwon.so). > Tyler - Owner/Administrator > Shack Networks - XeraNet Web Services > http://shack.mine.nu - http://www.xeranet.org > > On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Andrey wrote: > > > Hi Tyler! > > > > On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Tyler wrote: > > > > > export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/compat/linux/usr/games/hlds_L:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH > > > ./hlds_run -game cstrike +map cs_assualt > > > > Result is the same. > > Sys_LoadLibrary: Couldn't determine current directory. > > > > > Try that, or look at http://server.counter-strike.net > > > > > > Tyler - Owner/Administrator > > > Shack Networks - XeraNet Web Services > > > http://shack.mine.nu - http://www.xeranet.org > > > > > > On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Andrey wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Eric_Stanfield! > > > > > > > > On Mon, 26 Nov 2001, Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > Been running one on freebsd for quite some time. > > > > > > > > > > 3 - I've had no problems running it on FreeBSD. I've also had no trouble > > > > > running a lot of the extra bells and whistles people inevitably want to > > > > > see. AdminMod, Psychostats, etc. So far every c-s item that's been > > > > > released for linux will run on FreeBSD under linux emulation. The BIG > > > > > advantage here is that the server isn't as likely to get hacked by players > > > > > who get banned for whatever reason. FreeBSD doesn't draw quite as many > > > > > script kids as linux. > > > > > > > > I'v installed halflifeserver under FreeBSD 4.4-R and tried to run it. > > > > But without much success. > > > > > > > > [/compat/linux/usr/games/hlds_l]$ ./hlds_run > > > > Sys_LoadLibrary: Couldn't determine current directory. > > > > > > > > [/compat/linux/usr/games/hlds_l]$ > > > > > > > > Linux emulation module loaded. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > -- > > land-ripe > > -- land-ripe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 27 16:13:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from router.drapple.com (c1024475-b.salem1.or.home.com [24.10.78.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07C7E37B405 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:13:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from work.drapple.com (work [192.168.1.10]) by router.drapple.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22737 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:22:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@work.drapple.com) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 16:13:36 -0800 (PST) From: Mark Hartley To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Mail server (Sendmail) benchmarking Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm nearing the deployment phase for a project I'm working on that will involve the sending of a very large number of relatively small (2k-5k) emails (probably like 500,000 or more daily). Just so you know, this is NOT for any kind of a spamming site. I'm just curious if anyone has some estimations as to about how many emails I can reasonably expect one machine running FreeBSD 4.4-SECURE (or whatever that branch is being called now) with Sendmail to be able to send in a day. The machine(s) I'm looking at will be P3-933Mhz with 1GB of RAM. My main question is whether I will need to throw more than one machine at this. I've done some calculations, and 500,000 emails at 5k each is 2.5GB/day. Dividing that by 86400 (# of seconds/day) I get 28935 bytes/second, but I am promised by the client that I'll have the bandwidth I need, so I'm just mostly wondering if the machine will be the limiting factor, or will bandwidth be the issue? I'm asking in -isp because this is where I assume the heaviest use of mailservers would be in an ISP or similar situation. If this isn't the right forum, I can ask it in -questions but I thought the people in -isp would have more similar experience to what I'm asking. Anyone with any numbers they would be willing to share with me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Mark. mark@work.drapple.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 27 19: 6:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E2A437B405; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:06:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from [144.137.124.1] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id dxtdaaaa for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:06:04 +1100 Message-ID: <3C0454B6.6000102@quake.com.au> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:06:30 +1100 From: Kal Torak User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011011 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD Stable , FreeBSD ISP Subject: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This keeps happening... I have adsl running on my gateway using pppoe with userppp and its internal nat enabled, also a fairly simple ipfw config blocking a few ports... Now every so often all data stops and checking on the gateway trying to send something I get the "sendto: No buffer space available" error and have to reboot and everything is fine again... It seems to happen at random, sometimes its fine for a week, sometimes only a few days and it happens... There is nothing of interest logged in ppp.log or security or messages... What causes this buffer to fill up and not empty? Here in australia telstras adsl is really crap and you often cant get more than 2 hops past the peer... Im wondering if its something to do with apps like bitchx trying to constantly reconnect when the network is down filling up the buffer??? But shouldnt the buffer eventualy empty as things time out or something? There is really not that much that should be trying to connect besides a few irc sessions... Anyway any ideas? Should I tweek some settings? Increase the max users in the kernel? This is a really annoying little problem... Thanks!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 27 19:13:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 69CDE37B417 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:13:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by mercury.jorsm.com (Postfix, from userid 101) id 0CC59E4C13; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:13:48 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.jorsm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 035C0E0C4E; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:13:48 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:13:47 -0600 (CST) From: Jeff Lynch To: Kal Torak Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available In-Reply-To: <3C0454B6.6000102@quake.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Funny you should mention this. We see the same thing with a vtun pipe and the tun device. Have to take the ppp interface down and up to get traffic flowing again. --jeff On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Kal Torak wrote: > This keeps happening... > > I have adsl running on my gateway using pppoe with userppp > and its internal nat enabled, also a fairly simple ipfw config > blocking a few ports... > > Now every so often all data stops and checking on the gateway > trying to send something I get the "sendto: No buffer space available" > error and have to reboot and everything is fine again... > > It seems to happen at random, sometimes its fine for a week, > sometimes only a few days and it happens... There is nothing > of interest logged in ppp.log or security or messages... > > What causes this buffer to fill up and not empty? Here in australia > telstras adsl is really crap and you often cant get more than 2 > hops past the peer... Im wondering if its something to do with > apps like bitchx trying to constantly reconnect when the network > is down filling up the buffer??? > > But shouldnt the buffer eventualy empty as things time out or something? > There is really not that much that should be trying to connect besides > a few irc sessions... > > Anyway any ideas? Should I tweek some settings? Increase the max users > in the kernel? This is a really annoying little problem... > > Thanks!! > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > ============================================================================ Jeffrey A. Lynch | JORSM Internet, Regional Internet Services email: jeff@jorsm.com | 7 Area Codes in Chicagoland and NW Indiana Voice: (219)322-2180 | 100Mbps+ Connectivity, 56K-DS3, V.90, ISDN Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com | Quality Service, Affordable Prices http://www.jorsm.com | Serving Gov, Biz, Residential Since 1995 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 27 19:22:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hsd.com.au (CPE-144-132-42-44.vic.bigpond.net.au [144.132.42.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E147C37B405 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:22:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from ariel by hsd.com.au with SMTP (MDaemon.v3.0.1.R) for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:20:21 +1100 Reply-To: From: "Andrew Cowan" To: "'FreeBSD Stable'" , "'FreeBSD ISP'" Subject: RE: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:20:19 +1100 Message-ID: <000901c177bb$9c5aca70$1f65a8c0@ariel> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <3C0454B6.6000102@quake.com.au> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG X-Return-Path: andrew.cowan@hsd.com.au X-MDRcpt-To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I use Helstra ADSL in Melbourne on freeBSD 4.3 and have never had any problems. I will dig up my kernel config, ppp.conf, whatever etc, if no one knows the actual cause of the problem and see if we can find anything. Andy -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Kal Torak Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2001 14:07 PM To: FreeBSD Stable; FreeBSD ISP Subject: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available This keeps happening... I have adsl running on my gateway using pppoe with userppp and its internal nat enabled, also a fairly simple ipfw config blocking a few ports... Now every so often all data stops and checking on the gateway trying to send something I get the "sendto: No buffer space available" error and have to reboot and everything is fine again... It seems to happen at random, sometimes its fine for a week, sometimes only a few days and it happens... There is nothing of interest logged in ppp.log or security or messages... What causes this buffer to fill up and not empty? Here in australia telstras adsl is really crap and you often cant get more than 2 hops past the peer... Im wondering if its something to do with apps like bitchx trying to constantly reconnect when the network is down filling up the buffer??? But shouldnt the buffer eventualy empty as things time out or something? There is really not that much that should be trying to connect besides a few irc sessions... Anyway any ideas? Should I tweek some settings? Increase the max users in the kernel? This is a really annoying little problem... Thanks!! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 27 19:28:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sage-american.com (sage-american.com [216.122.141.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE8D37B41A; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:28:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from SAGEONE (adsl-64-219-30-123.dsl.crchtx.swbell.net [64.219.30.123]) by sage-american.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id VAA21200; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:27:43 -0600 (CST) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20011127212744.01042450@mail.sage-american.com> X-Sender: jacks@mail.sage-american.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:27:44 -0600 To: , "'FreeBSD Stable'" , "'FreeBSD ISP'" From: jacks@sage-american.com Subject: RE: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available In-Reply-To: <000901c177bb$9c5aca70$1f65a8c0@ariel> References: <3C0454B6.6000102@quake.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ...do you have a limit set on the firewall logging compiled in the kernel...??? packets can overload the system as I undertand it.... At 02:20 PM 11.28.2001 +1100, Andrew Cowan wrote: >I use Helstra ADSL in Melbourne on freeBSD 4.3 and have never had any >problems. >I will dig up my kernel config, ppp.conf, whatever etc, if no one knows the >actual cause of the problem and see if we can find anything. > >Andy > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Kal Torak >Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2001 14:07 PM >To: FreeBSD Stable; FreeBSD ISP >Subject: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available > > >This keeps happening... > >I have adsl running on my gateway using pppoe with userppp >and its internal nat enabled, also a fairly simple ipfw config >blocking a few ports... > >Now every so often all data stops and checking on the gateway >trying to send something I get the "sendto: No buffer space available" >error and have to reboot and everything is fine again... > >It seems to happen at random, sometimes its fine for a week, >sometimes only a few days and it happens... There is nothing >of interest logged in ppp.log or security or messages... > >What causes this buffer to fill up and not empty? Here in australia >telstras adsl is really crap and you often cant get more than 2 >hops past the peer... Im wondering if its something to do with >apps like bitchx trying to constantly reconnect when the network >is down filling up the buffer??? > >But shouldnt the buffer eventualy empty as things time out or something? >There is really not that much that should be trying to connect besides >a few irc sessions... > >Anyway any ideas? Should I tweek some settings? Increase the max users >in the kernel? This is a really annoying little problem... > >Thanks!! > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > Best regards, Jack L. Stone, Server Admin Sage-American http://www.sage-american.com jacks@sage-american.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 27 19:39:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ece.cmu.edu (ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.136.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2ADD37B405; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:39:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from VPN83.ECE.CMU.EDU (wfrzblewi6rnmlfj@VPN83.ECE.CMU.EDU [128.2.138.83]) by ece.cmu.edu (8.11.0/8.10.2) with ESMTP id fAS3d7l13690; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:39:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available From: "Brandon S. Allbery " KF8NH To: Kal Torak Cc: FreeBSD Stable , FreeBSD ISP In-Reply-To: <3C0454B6.6000102@quake.com.au> References: <3C0454B6.6000102@quake.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/0.99.2 (Preview Release) Date: 28 Nov 2001 08:39:05 +0500 Message-Id: <1006918748.6526.1.camel@vpn83.ece.cmu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 2001-11-27 at 22:06, Kal Torak wrote: > Now every so often all data stops and checking on the gateway > trying to send something I get the "sendto: No buffer space available" > error and have to reboot and everything is fine again... Beats the heck out of me, but it happens constantly on my laptop when I'm using the VPN (mpd; dynamic addresses mean I can't use IPSEC). Also, it constantly loses loopback packets. Usually it recovers by itself after a minute or so. I've tried fiddling with everything I can find and am considering instrumenting the kernel to syslog a stack trace any time something wants to return ENOBUFS. It's really annoying. I also see similar problems on the machine which is my PPP router / NAT gateway. -- brandon s. allbery [os/2][linux][solaris][japh] allbery@kf8nh.apk.net system administrator [WAY too many hats] allbery@ece.cmu.edu electrical and computer engineering KF8NH carnegie mellon university ["better check the oblivious first" -ke6sls] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 27 19:39:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from inet03.citec.qld.gov.au (inet03.citec.qld.gov.au [203.5.10.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7072937B405; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:39:38 -0800 (PST) Received: by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au; id NAA24737; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:39:35 +1000 (EST) Received: from citecub.citec.qld.gov.au( 131.242.4.98) by inet03.citec.qld.gov.au via smap (V2.0) id xma024482; Wed, 28 Nov 01 13:39:26 +1000 Received: from guru.citec.qld.gov.au by citecub.citec.qld.gov.au (SMI-8.6/SMI-SVR4) id NAA03715; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:39:25 +1000 Received: from localhost (sgcccdc@localhost) by guru.citec.qld.gov.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA43290; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:39:18 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from sgcccdc@citec.qld.gov.au) X-Authentication-Warning: guru.citec.qld.gov.au: sgcccdc owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:39:18 +1000 (EST) From: Colin Campbell To: Kal Torak Cc: FreeBSD Stable , FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available In-Reply-To: <3C0454B6.6000102@quake.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Methinks you is out of "mbufs". Try a "netstat -m". You can maybe increase mbufs by increasing "maxusers" or definitely by adding the fllowing to your kernel config: options NMBCLUSTERS=8192 #network mbuf clusters Note the 8192 might be too big for your system. Of course you'll need to rebuild your kernel. On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Kal Torak wrote: > This keeps happening... > > I have adsl running on my gateway using pppoe with userppp > and its internal nat enabled, also a fairly simple ipfw config > blocking a few ports... > > Now every so often all data stops and checking on the gateway > trying to send something I get the "sendto: No buffer space available" > error and have to reboot and everything is fine again... Colin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 27 19:40:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA5437B405 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:40:31 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA22948; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:36:04 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:36:04 -0700 (MST) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: Jeff Lynch Cc: Kal Torak , FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What does a netstat -m show when this occurs? I suspect you don't have enough mbufs. On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Jeff Lynch wrote: > Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:13:47 -0600 (CST) > From: Jeff Lynch > To: Kal Torak > Cc: FreeBSD ISP > Subject: Re: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available > > Funny you should mention this. We see the same thing > with a vtun pipe and the tun device. Have to take the > ppp interface down and up to get traffic flowing again. > > --jeff > > On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Kal Torak wrote: > > > This keeps happening... > > > > I have adsl running on my gateway using pppoe with userppp > > and its internal nat enabled, also a fairly simple ipfw config > > blocking a few ports... > > > > Now every so often all data stops and checking on the gateway > > trying to send something I get the "sendto: No buffer space available" > > error and have to reboot and everything is fine again... > > > > It seems to happen at random, sometimes its fine for a week, > > sometimes only a few days and it happens... There is nothing > > of interest logged in ppp.log or security or messages... > > > > What causes this buffer to fill up and not empty? Here in australia > > telstras adsl is really crap and you often cant get more than 2 > > hops past the peer... Im wondering if its something to do with > > apps like bitchx trying to constantly reconnect when the network > > is down filling up the buffer??? > > > > But shouldnt the buffer eventualy empty as things time out or something? > > There is really not that much that should be trying to connect besides > > a few irc sessions... > > > > Anyway any ideas? Should I tweek some settings? Increase the max users > > in the kernel? This is a really annoying little problem... > > > > Thanks!! > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > ============================================================================ > Jeffrey A. Lynch | JORSM Internet, Regional Internet Services > email: jeff@jorsm.com | 7 Area Codes in Chicagoland and NW Indiana > Voice: (219)322-2180 | 100Mbps+ Connectivity, 56K-DS3, V.90, ISDN > Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com | Quality Service, Affordable Prices > http://www.jorsm.com | Serving Gov, Biz, Residential Since 1995 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Innovation Machine Ltd. P.O. Box 5749 http://www.imach.com/ Helena, MT 59604 Home of PacketFlux Technogies and BackupDNS.com (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Protect your personal freedoms - visit http://www.lp.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 27 19:43:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from wizard.teksupport.net.au (wizard.teksupport.net.au [203.17.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A14E37B417 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 19:43:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from warlock (portcullis2.teksupport.net.au [203.17.1.10]) by wizard.teksupport.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA22758 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:43:45 +1100 (EST) From: "Rob Secombe" To: "FreeBSD ISP" Subject: RE: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:43:16 +1100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I had a similar problem and suspect that the symptom is a effect rather that a cause. I found that when the problem occurred the link led on the ADSL modem went out so I tried locking the Fast Ethernet NIC in the FreeBSD box to 10base/UTP and the problem went away. Cheers Rob. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Forrest W. Christian Sent: Wednesday, 28 November 2001 2:36 PM To: Jeff Lynch Cc: Kal Torak; FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available What does a netstat -m show when this occurs? I suspect you don't have enough mbufs. On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Jeff Lynch wrote: > Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:13:47 -0600 (CST) > From: Jeff Lynch > To: Kal Torak > Cc: FreeBSD ISP > Subject: Re: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available > > Funny you should mention this. We see the same thing > with a vtun pipe and the tun device. Have to take the > ppp interface down and up to get traffic flowing again. > > --jeff > > On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Kal Torak wrote: > > > This keeps happening... > > > > I have adsl running on my gateway using pppoe with userppp > > and its internal nat enabled, also a fairly simple ipfw config > > blocking a few ports... > > > > Now every so often all data stops and checking on the gateway > > trying to send something I get the "sendto: No buffer space available" > > error and have to reboot and everything is fine again... > > > > It seems to happen at random, sometimes its fine for a week, > > sometimes only a few days and it happens... There is nothing > > of interest logged in ppp.log or security or messages... > > > > What causes this buffer to fill up and not empty? Here in australia > > telstras adsl is really crap and you often cant get more than 2 > > hops past the peer... Im wondering if its something to do with > > apps like bitchx trying to constantly reconnect when the network > > is down filling up the buffer??? > > > > But shouldnt the buffer eventualy empty as things time out or something? > > There is really not that much that should be trying to connect besides > > a few irc sessions... > > > > Anyway any ideas? Should I tweek some settings? Increase the max users > > in the kernel? This is a really annoying little problem... > > > > Thanks!! > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > ============================================================================ > Jeffrey A. Lynch | JORSM Internet, Regional Internet Services > email: jeff@jorsm.com | 7 Area Codes in Chicagoland and NW Indiana > Voice: (219)322-2180 | 100Mbps+ Connectivity, 56K-DS3, V.90, ISDN > Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com | Quality Service, Affordable Prices > http://www.jorsm.com | Serving Gov, Biz, Residential Since 1995 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Innovation Machine Ltd. P.O. Box 5749 http://www.imach.com/ Helena, MT 59604 Home of PacketFlux Technogies and BackupDNS.com (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Protect your personal freedoms - visit http://www.lp.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 27 20: 8:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 642E737B41C for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:08:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by mercury.jorsm.com (Postfix, from userid 101) id E06C8E4BF5; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:08:16 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.jorsm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D536CE0C4E; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:08:16 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:08:16 -0600 (CST) From: Jeff Lynch To: "Forrest W. Christian" Cc: Kal Torak , FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Forrest W. Christian wrote: > What does a netstat -m show when this occurs? I'll hack the cron script that detects and restarts the tunnel to find out at the time of failure. Could it be a problem on the other end of the connection or does this have to be a problem from the sending source (Note, it's a one way pipe by design so we won't see failures in the other direction). --jeff > > I suspect you don't have enough mbufs. > > On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Jeff Lynch wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:13:47 -0600 (CST) > > From: Jeff Lynch > > To: Kal Torak > > Cc: FreeBSD ISP > > Subject: Re: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available > > > > Funny you should mention this. We see the same thing > > with a vtun pipe and the tun device. Have to take the > > ppp interface down and up to get traffic flowing again. > > > > --jeff > > > > On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Kal Torak wrote: > > > > > This keeps happening... > > > > > > I have adsl running on my gateway using pppoe with userppp > > > and its internal nat enabled, also a fairly simple ipfw config > > > blocking a few ports... > > > > > > Now every so often all data stops and checking on the gateway > > > trying to send something I get the "sendto: No buffer space available" > > > error and have to reboot and everything is fine again... > > > > > > It seems to happen at random, sometimes its fine for a week, > > > sometimes only a few days and it happens... There is nothing > > > of interest logged in ppp.log or security or messages... > > > > > > What causes this buffer to fill up and not empty? Here in australia > > > telstras adsl is really crap and you often cant get more than 2 > > > hops past the peer... Im wondering if its something to do with > > > apps like bitchx trying to constantly reconnect when the network > > > is down filling up the buffer??? > > > > > > But shouldnt the buffer eventualy empty as things time out or something? > > > There is really not that much that should be trying to connect besides > > > a few irc sessions... > > > > > > Anyway any ideas? Should I tweek some settings? Increase the max users > > > in the kernel? This is a really annoying little problem... > > > > > > Thanks!! > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > ============================================================================ > > Jeffrey A. Lynch | JORSM Internet, Regional Internet Services > > email: jeff@jorsm.com | 7 Area Codes in Chicagoland and NW Indiana > > Voice: (219)322-2180 | 100Mbps+ Connectivity, 56K-DS3, V.90, ISDN > > Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com | Quality Service, Affordable Prices > > http://www.jorsm.com | Serving Gov, Biz, Residential Since 1995 > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > The Innovation Machine Ltd. P.O. Box 5749 > http://www.imach.com/ Helena, MT 59604 > Home of PacketFlux Technogies and BackupDNS.com (406)-442-6648 > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Protect your personal freedoms - visit http://www.lp.org/ > > ============================================================================ Jeffrey A. Lynch | JORSM Internet, Regional Internet Services email: jeff@jorsm.com | 7 Area Codes in Chicagoland and NW Indiana Voice: (219)322-2180 | 100Mbps+ Connectivity, 56K-DS3, V.90, ISDN Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com | Quality Service, Affordable Prices http://www.jorsm.com | Serving Gov, Biz, Residential Since 1995 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 27 20: 9:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mako1.telstra.net (mako1.telstra.net [203.50.0.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A6DB37B405; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:09:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from rctp.telstra.net (rsdhcp15.telstra.net [203.50.0.209]) by mako1.telstra.net (8.11.3/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAS49Tu98419; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:09:29 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from rchew@telstra.net) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20011128151857.01b8bb70@gomer.telstra.net> X-Sender: rchew@gomer.telstra.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:21:26 +1100 To: Kal Torak From: Richard Chew Subject: Re: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available Cc: FreeBSD Stable , FreeBSD ISP In-Reply-To: <3C0454B6.6000102@quake.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Have you actually tried using netstat to actually work out your Send and Receive Queues and also whether you have enough mbufs? Also, try tweaking net.inet.tcp.sendspace and net.inet.tcp.recvspace and the equivalent for udp. Hope this helps. At 02:06 PM 28/11/2001 +1100, Kal Torak wrote: >This keeps happening... > >I have adsl running on my gateway using pppoe with userppp >and its internal nat enabled, also a fairly simple ipfw config >blocking a few ports... > >Now every so often all data stops and checking on the gateway >trying to send something I get the "sendto: No buffer space available" >error and have to reboot and everything is fine again... > >It seems to happen at random, sometimes its fine for a week, >sometimes only a few days and it happens... There is nothing >of interest logged in ppp.log or security or messages... > >What causes this buffer to fill up and not empty? Here in australia >telstras adsl is really crap and you often cant get more than 2 >hops past the peer... Im wondering if its something to do with >apps like bitchx trying to constantly reconnect when the network >is down filling up the buffer??? > >But shouldnt the buffer eventualy empty as things time out or something? >There is really not that much that should be trying to connect besides >a few irc sessions... > >Anyway any ideas? Should I tweek some settings? Increase the max users >in the kernel? This is a really annoying little problem... > >Thanks!! > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message Cheers, Richard ----------- Richard Chew Tel: 02 6208 1913 (International: +61 2 6208 1913) Telstra Internet Network Development To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 27 20:44:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7980637B41B for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:44:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from [144.137.124.1] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id kytdaaaa for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:44:22 +1100 Message-ID: <3C046BC3.3090500@quake.com.au> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:44:51 +1100 From: Kal Torak User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011011 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: jacks@sage-american.com Cc: 'FreeBSD ISP' Subject: Re: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available References: <3C0454B6.6000102@quake.com.au> <3.0.5.32.20011127212744.01042450@mail.sage-american.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org jacks@sage-american.com wrote: > ...do you have a limit set on the firewall logging compiled in the > kernel...??? packets can overload the system as I undertand it.... Yeah I have it limited to 100... I checked that and none of the ruels had hit the limit... The highest was ftp at 73 denied packets.. Not really much... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 27 20:51:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DBBC37B417 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:51:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from [144.137.124.1] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id nytdaaaa for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:51:26 +1100 Message-ID: <3C046D6A.4080201@quake.com.au> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:51:54 +1100 From: Kal Torak User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011011 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Forrest W. Christian" Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Forrest W. Christian wrote: > What does a netstat -m show when this occurs? > > I suspect you don't have enough mbufs. Yeah, I was thinking of just putting maxusers up to 60 or something and see if it goes away... Just seems strange that there wouldnt be enough, because there really isnt that much traffic going through it!! Other people are seeing simmilar things here, are we all lacking mbufs or is there something else happining here? I havent really noticed any loss of sync on the modem, but I have never actualy been sitting here using the system when its happened... Could it be an issue with the isp? I dont see how there end could cause us to run out of mbufs... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 27 20:51:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (serial1-2-velvet-brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E381A37B41B; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:51:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id PAA54916; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:51:49 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:51:49 +1100 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available In-Reply-To: <3C0454B6.6000102@quake.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org bOn Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Kal Torak wrote: > This keeps happening... > > I have adsl running on my gateway using pppoe with userppp > and its internal nat enabled, also a fairly simple ipfw config > blocking a few ports... > > Now every so often all data stops and checking on the gateway > trying to send something I get the "sendto: No buffer space available" > error and have to reboot and everything is fine again... > > It seems to happen at random, sometimes its fine for a week, > sometimes only a few days and it happens... There is nothing > of interest logged in ppp.log or security or messages... > > What causes this buffer to fill up and not empty? Here in australia > telstras adsl is really crap and you often cant get more than 2 > hops past the peer... Im wondering if its something to do with > apps like bitchx trying to constantly reconnect when the network > is down filling up the buffer??? I see this error occasionally on a 56k modem connection. Sometimes the modem half dies (CD light on but not passing data), and usually drops out within a few minutes. If there's a lot of outbound data in this period, the error pops up. Presumably the error refers to an output buffer being full, in my case most likely because the modem has signalled it cannot take any more data, and ultimately packets cannot be shed from the packet queue. I haven't used PPPoE but I would guess it means that your client cannot reach the other end of the tunnel, which is effectively the same thing - output queue fills and overflows. Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe camrecord.com / camdiscover.com / Sensation Internet Services Melbourne, Australia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 27 21:13:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [207.200.153.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD70937B42C for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:13:21 -0800 (PST) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 168wUp-0006jM-00; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:38:55 -0800 Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 20:38:53 -0800 (PST) From: Tom Samplonius To: Mark Hartley Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mail server (Sendmail) benchmarking In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Mark Hartley wrote: ... > many emails I can reasonably expect one machine running FreeBSD 4.4-SECURE (or > whatever that branch is being called now) with Sendmail to be able to send in a > day. The machine(s) I'm looking at will be P3-933Mhz with 1GB of RAM. My main > question is whether I will need to throw more than one machine at this. ... Postfix would an order of magnitude faster sending e-mail than Sendmail on the same hardware. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 27 21:15:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from moat.teksupport.net.au (moat.teksupport.net.au [203.17.1.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B65C37B41A; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:15:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from rob.secombe.teksupport.net.au (rob.secombe.teksupport.net.au [192.168.1.2]) by moat.teksupport.net.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id fAS5EnZ98307; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:14:49 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from robseco@teksupport.net.au) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20011128151448.038174f0@mail.secombe> X-Sender: robseco@mail.secombe X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:14:48 +1000 To: Rowan Crowe , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Rob Secombe Subject: Re: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <3C0454B6.6000102@quake.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I agree. I believe it is as a result of the output queue filling as a result of the link dying. In my case our customer was using a Alcatel ADSL modem and it was the ethernet link between the FreeBSD box and the modem that was falling over. I suspect that the NIC was trying to negotiate 100baseTX or the like and the modem is only capable of 10baseT/UTP. The link led on the modem goes out and the media status on the NIC was inactive in the failed state. The problem was resolved thus: ifconfig_rl1="media 10baseT/UTP -mediaopt full-duplex up" I have a bunch of these "out there" running on different providers, including Tel$tra, without any problems. Cheers Rob. At 15:51 28/11/01 +1100, Rowan Crowe wrote: >bOn Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Kal Torak wrote: > >> This keeps happening... >> >> I have adsl running on my gateway using pppoe with userppp >> and its internal nat enabled, also a fairly simple ipfw config >> blocking a few ports... >> >> Now every so often all data stops and checking on the gateway >> trying to send something I get the "sendto: No buffer space available" >> error and have to reboot and everything is fine again... >> >> It seems to happen at random, sometimes its fine for a week, >> sometimes only a few days and it happens... There is nothing >> of interest logged in ppp.log or security or messages... >> >> What causes this buffer to fill up and not empty? Here in australia >> telstras adsl is really crap and you often cant get more than 2 >> hops past the peer... Im wondering if its something to do with >> apps like bitchx trying to constantly reconnect when the network >> is down filling up the buffer??? > >I see this error occasionally on a 56k modem connection. Sometimes the >modem half dies (CD light on but not passing data), and usually drops out >within a few minutes. If there's a lot of outbound data in this period, >the error pops up. > >Presumably the error refers to an output buffer being full, in my case >most likely because the modem has signalled it cannot take any more data, >and ultimately packets cannot be shed from the packet queue. I haven't >used PPPoE but I would guess it means that your client cannot reach the >other end of the tunnel, which is effectively the same thing - output >queue fills and overflows. > >Cheers. > > >-- >Rowan Crowe >camrecord.com / camdiscover.com / Sensation Internet Services >Melbourne, Australia > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 27 21:24:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (dhcp.looksmart.com.au [202.53.47.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1746437B419; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:24:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fAS5Mmj12192; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:22:48 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from msergeant@snsonline.net) Message-Id: <200111280522.fAS5Mmj12192@xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit MIME-Version: 1.0 From: "Mark Sergeant" To: Rob Secombe , Rowan Crowe , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available X-Mailer: Pronto v2.2.6 On freebsd/mysql Date: 28 Nov 2001 00:22:45 EST Reply-To: "Mark Sergeant" In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20011128151448.038174f0@mail.secombe> References: <3C0454B6.6000102@quake.com.au> <3.0.5.32.20011128151448.038174f0@mail.secombe> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have the same problem and I have this option in my rc.conf. I also have 256 set for max users n 8096 for mbufs, suffice it to say the only time I have ever noticed a problem is when Telstra has issues. after Telstra comes back a ifconfig down n up combined with a stop n start of ppp fixes things fine. Cheers, Mark On Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:14:48 +1000, Rob Secombe said: > Hi, > > I agree. I believe it is as a result of the output queue filling as a > result of the link dying. In my case our customer was using a Alcatel ADSL > modem and it was the ethernet link between the FreeBSD box and the modem > that was falling over. I suspect that the NIC was trying to negotiate > 100baseTX or the like and the modem is only capable of > 10baseT/UTP. The link led on the modem goes out and the media status on the > NIC was inactive in the failed state. The problem was resolved thus: > > ifconfig_rl1="media 10baseT/UTP -mediaopt full-duplex up" > > I have a bunch of these "out there" running on different providers, > including Tel$tra, without any problems. > > Cheers > > Rob. > > At 15:51 28/11/01 +1100, Rowan Crowe wrote: > >bOn Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Kal Torak wrote: > > > >> This keeps happening... > >> > >> I have adsl running on my gateway using pppoe with userppp > >> and its internal nat enabled, also a fairly simple ipfw config > >> blocking a few ports... > >> > >> Now every so often all data stops and checking on the gateway > >> trying to send something I get the "sendto: No buffer space available" > >> error and have to reboot and everything is fine again... > >> > >> It seems to happen at random, sometimes its fine for a week, > >> sometimes only a few days and it happens... There is nothing > >> of interest logged in ppp.log or security or messages... > >> > >> What causes this buffer to fill up and not empty? Here in australia > >> telstras adsl is really crap and you often cant get more than 2 > >> hops past the peer... Im wondering if its something to do with > >> apps like bitchx trying to constantly reconnect when the network > >> is down filling up the buffer??? > > > >I see this error occasionally on a 56k modem connection. Sometimes the > >modem half dies (CD light on but not passing data), and usually drops out > >within a few minutes. If there's a lot of outbound data in this period, > >the error pops up. > > > >Presumably the error refers to an output buffer being full, in my case > >most likely because the modem has signalled it cannot take any more data, > >and ultimately packets cannot be shed from the packet queue. I haven't > >used PPPoE but I would guess it means that your client cannot reach the > >other end of the tunnel, which is effectively the same thing - output > >queue fills and overflows. > > > >Cheers. > > > > > >-- > >Rowan Crowe > >camrecord.com / camdiscover.com / Sensation Internet Services > >Melbourne, Australia > > > > > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > -- Mark Sergeant | url: http://www.snsonline.net/ Unix Systems Administrator | email: msergeant@snsonline.net disclaimer: http://www.snsonline.net/disclaimer/ | mobile: +61 4 1271 42631 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 27 21:45:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.iMach.com (workhorse.iMach.com [206.127.77.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FF1B37B405 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:45:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.iMach.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id WAA23309; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:40:51 -0700 (MST) Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 22:40:51 -0700 (MST) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: Kal Torak Cc: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available In-Reply-To: <3C046D6A.4080201@quake.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Actually, if you haven't rebooted, netstat -m should show the maximum number of mbufs which have been used (also look at mbuf clusters). Filling mbufs/mbuf clusters are sometimes a sign of a bigger problem - such as packet loss caused by something misconfigured in the path. If you've got a lot of flows going into a box (such as for a mail server), I can almost guarantee that the out-of-the-box tuning is too small. In addition, if you have tuned tcpip to permit a larger window size, it tends to eat mbufs. This can also be caused my a buggy driver/card. 3com cards have been known to have this problem recently (along with others at various other times). On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Kal Torak wrote: > Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:51:54 +1100 > From: Kal Torak > To: Forrest W. Christian > Cc: FreeBSD ISP > Subject: Re: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available > > Forrest W. Christian wrote: > > > What does a netstat -m show when this occurs? > > > > I suspect you don't have enough mbufs. > > > Yeah, I was thinking of just putting maxusers up to 60 > or something and see if it goes away... > > Just seems strange that there wouldnt be enough, because > there really isnt that much traffic going through it!! > > Other people are seeing simmilar things here, are we all > lacking mbufs or is there something else happining here? > > I havent really noticed any loss of sync on the modem, > but I have never actualy been sitting here using the system > when its happened... Could it be an issue with the isp? I > dont see how there end could cause us to run out of mbufs... > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Innovation Machine Ltd. P.O. Box 5749 http://www.imach.com/ Helena, MT 59604 Home of PacketFlux Technogies and BackupDNS.com (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Protect your personal freedoms - visit http://www.lp.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 27 23: 7: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gw.gbch.net (gw.gbch.net [203.143.238.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F24A37B416 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:06:59 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 43803 invoked by uid 1001); 28 Nov 2001 17:06:57 +1000 X-Posted-By: GJB-Post 2.23 27-Nov-2001 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 X-Uptime: 6 days, 23:12 X-Location: Brisbane, Australia; 27.49841S 152.98439E X-URL: http://www.gbch.net/gjb.html X-Image-URL: http://www.gbch.net/gjb/gjb-auug048.gif X-GPG-Fingerprint: EBB2 2A92 A79D 1533 AC00 3C46 5D83 B6FB 4B04 B7D6 X-PGP-Public-Keys: http://www.gbch.net/keys.html Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:06:56 +1000 From: Greg Black To: Rob Secombe Cc: Rowan Crowe , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available References: <3C0454B6.6000102@quake.com.au> <3.0.5.32.20011128151448.038174f0@mail.secombe> In-reply-to: <3.0.5.32.20011128151448.038174f0@mail.secombe> of Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:14:48 +1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rob Secombe wrote: | I agree. I believe it is as a result of the output queue filling as a | result of the link dying. In my case our customer was using a Alcatel ADSL | modem and it was the ethernet link between the FreeBSD box and the modem | that was falling over. I suspect that the NIC was trying to negotiate | 100baseTX or the like and the modem is only capable of | 10baseT/UTP. The link led on the modem goes out and the media status on the | NIC was inactive in the failed state. The problem was resolved thus: | | ifconfig_rl1="media 10baseT/UTP -mediaopt full-duplex up" What kind of modem? My Alcatel ADSL modem states in its manual that it provides a 10BaseT half-duplex interface and that's the way I run it. I've never seen these problems, but I had a long wait for Telstra to put the ADSL on the correct line and I've only had my ADSL service running for a few days so far. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 27 23:11:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0E237B405 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:11:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from [144.137.124.1] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id lztdaaaa for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 18:11:46 +1100 Message-ID: <3C048E4D.5030609@quake.com.au> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 18:12:13 +1100 From: Kal Torak User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011011 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rob Secombe Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available References: <3C0454B6.6000102@quake.com.au> <3.0.5.32.20011128151448.038174f0@mail.secombe> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Rob Secombe wrote: > The link led on the modem goes out and the media status on the > NIC was inactive in the failed state. The problem was resolved thus: > > ifconfig_rl1="media 10baseT/UTP -mediaopt full-duplex up" Hmm I have never noticed the link light go out... And I actualy do force the config in my rc.conf, I have "media 10baseT/UTP up" as the strings for mine... I am convinced now that this is caused by telstra dropping out and the send que filling up... But why does it not empty? Is there some way to fix this??? Would upping the mbufs work? Because the way I see it if I increase them it will just fill them all anyway if the link is down long enough?? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 27 23:25:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from moat.teksupport.net.au (moat.teksupport.net.au [203.17.1.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83C4E37B43B; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:25:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from rob.secombe.teksupport.net.au (rob.secombe.teksupport.net.au [192.168.1.2]) by moat.teksupport.net.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id fAS7ONZ99660; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 18:24:23 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from robseco@teksupport.net.au) Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.20011128172422.037bf9d0@mail.secombe> X-Sender: robseco@mail.secombe X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Light Version 3.0.5 (32) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:24:22 +1000 To: Greg Black From: Rob Secombe Subject: Re: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available Cc: Rowan Crowe , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <3.0.5.32.20011128151448.038174f0@mail.secombe> <3C0454B6.6000102@quake.com.au> <3.0.5.32.20011128151448.038174f0@mail.secombe> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Alcatel Speed Touch Home. Rob. At 17:06 28/11/01 +1000, Greg Black wrote: >Rob Secombe wrote: > >| I agree. I believe it is as a result of the output queue filling as a >| result of the link dying. In my case our customer was using a Alcatel ADSL >| modem and it was the ethernet link between the FreeBSD box and the modem >| that was falling over. I suspect that the NIC was trying to negotiate >| 100baseTX or the like and the modem is only capable of >| 10baseT/UTP. The link led on the modem goes out and the media status on the >| NIC was inactive in the failed state. The problem was resolved thus: >| >| ifconfig_rl1="media 10baseT/UTP -mediaopt full-duplex up" > >What kind of modem? My Alcatel ADSL modem states in its manual >that it provides a 10BaseT half-duplex interface and that's the >way I run it. I've never seen these problems, but I had a long >wait for Telstra to put the ADSL on the correct line and I've >only had my ADSL service running for a few days so far. > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 27 23:51:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gw.gbch.net (gw.gbch.net [203.143.238.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3DA9137B419 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:51:23 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 46242 invoked by uid 1001); 28 Nov 2001 17:51:21 +1000 X-Posted-By: GJB-Post 2.23 27-Nov-2001 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386 X-Uptime: 6 days, 23:56 X-Location: Brisbane, Australia; 27.49841S 152.98439E X-URL: http://www.gbch.net/gjb.html X-Image-URL: http://www.gbch.net/gjb/gjb-auug048.gif X-GPG-Fingerprint: EBB2 2A92 A79D 1533 AC00 3C46 5D83 B6FB 4B04 B7D6 X-PGP-Public-Keys: http://www.gbch.net/keys.html Message-Id: Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:51:20 +1000 From: Greg Black To: Rob Secombe Cc: Rowan Crowe , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available References: <3C0454B6.6000102@quake.com.au> <3.0.5.32.20011128151448.038174f0@mail.secombe> In-reply-to: of Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:06:56 +1000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I wrote: | Rob Secombe wrote: | | | I agree. I believe it is as a result of the output queue filling as a | | result of the link dying. In my case our customer was using a Alcatel ADSL | | modem and it was the ethernet link between the FreeBSD box and the modem | | that was falling over. I suspect that the NIC was trying to negotiate | | 100baseTX or the like and the modem is only capable of | | 10baseT/UTP. The link led on the modem goes out and the media status on the | | NIC was inactive in the failed state. The problem was resolved thus: | | | | ifconfig_rl1="media 10baseT/UTP -mediaopt full-duplex up" | | What kind of modem? My Alcatel ADSL modem states in its manual | that it provides a 10BaseT half-duplex interface and that's the | way I run it. I've never seen these problems, but I had a long | wait for Telstra to put the ADSL on the correct line and I've | only had my ADSL service running for a few days so far. Sigh. I left out the type of modem I was using. It's an Alcatel Speed Touch Home ADSL modem. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Nov 27 23:58:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from 217-126-145-95.uc.nombres.ttd.es (217-126-145-95.uc.nombres.ttd.es [217.126.145.95]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8FD537B416 for ; Tue, 27 Nov 2001 23:58:54 -0800 (PST) Received: by unicorn.ea4els.ampr.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E6A5F314A; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:58:51 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mail server (Sendmail) benchmarking References: From: Simon J Mudd Date: 28 Nov 2001 08:58:51 +0100 In-Reply-To: mark@work.drapple.com's message of "Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:14:03 +0000 (UTC)" Message-ID: <86r8qj498k.fsf@unicorn.ea4els.ampr.org> Lines: 56 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.7 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org mark@work.drapple.com (Mark Hartley) writes: > I'm nearing the deployment phase for a project I'm working on that will involve > the sending of a very large number of relatively small (2k-5k) emails (probably > like 500,000 or more daily). Just so you know, this is NOT for any kind of a > spamming site. I'm just curious if anyone has some estimations as to about how > many emails I can reasonably expect one machine running FreeBSD 4.4-SECURE (or > whatever that branch is being called now) with Sendmail to be able to send in a > day. The machine(s) I'm looking at will be P3-933Mhz with 1GB of RAM. My main > question is whether I will need to throw more than one machine at this. > > I've done some calculations, and 500,000 emails at 5k each is 2.5GB/day. > Dividing that by 86400 (# of seconds/day) I get 28935 bytes/second, but I am > promised by the client that I'll have the bandwidth I need, so I'm just mostly > wondering if the machine will be the limiting factor, or will bandwidth be the > issue? > > > I'm asking in -isp because this is where I assume the heaviest use of > mailservers would be in an ISP or similar situation. If this isn't the right > forum, I can ask it in -questions but I thought the people in -isp would have > more similar experience to what I'm asking. > > Anyone with any numbers they would be willing to share with me would be greatly > appreciated. Someone else has mentioned postfix as a faster alternative. The other thing which will make a large difference is your disk I/O bandwidth as mail servers are nearly always disk I/O bound not CPU bound. I think this will be equally true for an outgoing mail server as every time a message is sent to a recipient information on disk has to be written to indicate the message has been sent, and also the fact has to be written to syslog. It's been reported to help enormously to have syslog writing to a different disk from the disk used for the mail spool. I would guess that this is likely to be the case in your situation. I think finally you will find the Internet much slower than you expect, even if you have sufficient bandwidth, as some mail servers are very slow and this can slow down the overall sending rates by a significant amount. I'd suggest you ask on postfix-users, sendmail's mailing list, or even qmail's mailing list. Brad Knowles also had a document somewhere on tuning mail servers for heavy load. Take a look at http://linuxperf.nl.linux.org/mailserving/ He also uses FreeBSD and I'm sure you'll find the paper useful. Simon -- Simon J Mudd, Tel: +34-91-408 4878, Mobile: +34-605-085 219 Madrid, Spain. email: sjmudd@pobox.com, Postfix RPM Packager To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 1:51:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from velvet.sensation.net.au (serial1-2-velvet-brunswick.sensation.net.au [203.20.114.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F20FC37B405 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 01:51:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by velvet.sensation.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA55994 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:51:25 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from rowan@sensation.net.au) X-Authentication-Warning: velvet.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:51:24 +1100 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available In-Reply-To: <3C048E4D.5030609@quake.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Kal Torak wrote: > Hmm I have never noticed the link light go out... And I actualy do > force the config in my rc.conf, I have "media 10baseT/UTP up" as > the strings for mine... The ADSL link itself is up, but the path to the host you're running the PPPoE tunnel with is broken. > I am convinced now that this is caused by telstra dropping out and > the send que filling up... But why does it not empty? Is there some > way to fix this??? Would upping the mbufs work? Because the way I > see it if I increase them it will just fill them all anyway if the > link is down long enough?? Does PPPoE have LCP echo or other link quality measuring facilities like LQR? If so, set it up so that it detects when the other end dies, downs the interface, then retries logins periodically, succeeding when the path is again working. (please don't CC me any replies to this or any other messages in this thread - I don't really need 2 copies of the same message arriving a few seconds apart. :) ) Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe camrecord.com / camdiscover.com / Sensation Internet Services Melbourne, Australia To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 2:24:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mgw1.MEIway.com (mgw1.meiway.com [212.73.210.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1C10437B416 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 02:24:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.Go2France.com (ms1.meiway.com [212.73.210.73]) by mgw1.MEIway.com (Postfix Relay Hub) with ESMTP id 1AC9A16B20 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:24:35 +0100 (CET) Received: from IBM-HIRXKN66F0W.Go2France.com [66.64.14.18] by mail.Go2France.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id AE943FBC01EC; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:38:12 +0100 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20011128030619.04d91bc8@mail.Go2France.com> X-Sender: LConrad@Go2France.com@mail.Go2France.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 04:23:47 -0600 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org From: Len Conrad Subject: Re: Mail server (Sendmail) benchmarking In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >I'm nearing the deployment phase for a project I'm working on that will >involve >the sending of a very large number of relatively small (2k-5k) emails >(probably >like 500,000 or more daily). 500K copies of one msg body in different envelopes, or 500K unique bodies? The difference is huge. My numbers below are for 1 msg body. Can you string out delivery over 24 hours or does the client want all 500K to go out with 1 hour? (one postfix admin had to delivery 100K perishable "financial info" msgs in 1 hour, and used 10 postfix machines in parallel) What is the source of injecting messages into the MTA? a list manager? >I'm just curious if anyone has some estimations as to about how >many emails I can reasonably expect one machine running FreeBSD 4.4-SECURE >(or whatever that branch is being called now) with Sendmail to be able to >send in a day. I manage a FreeBSD4.4 + ecartis 1.0.0 + postfix "joke" co-lo list server. 900 Mhz, 1 gb RAM, one ATA100 disk. I have ecartis queue chunking at 100. The average msgs size is 20K. The critical softupdates is not activated (co-lo monkey is a lazy bugger) There a several lists sent every day, but two of them are about 5O+ K members each. When these 2 lists are sent in different hours, delivery is about 30K/hour. When these 2 lists are sent nearly simultaneously, the hourly delivery rate flirts with 60K. Here are the hourly rates for 27 NOV, for the two lists clearly sent at different hours: Per-Hour Traffic Summary time received delivered deferred bounced rejected -------------------------------------------------------------------- 0000-0100 24 25 23 0 0 0100-0200 35 35 32 0 0 0200-0300 441 4860 89 34 1 0300-0400 1906 30527 1632 179 0 0400-0500 1163 17368 1970 163 1 0500-0600 134 351 552 29 0 0600-0700 86 158 347 0 0 0700-0800 81 303 352 2 0 0800-0900 105 139 117 2 0 0900-1000 183 323 144 1 0 1000-1100 2047 38412 1591 137 1 1100-1200 1314 23289 2245 35 0 1200-1300 170 358 1030 2 1 and here are the "msg queue times" for the Top 20 recipient domains: Host/Domain Summary: Message Delivery (top 20) sent cnt bytes defers avg dly max dly host/domain -------- ------- ------- ------- ------- ----------- 55623 1291m 186 32.7 s 34.1 m aol.com 17020 415467k 401 1.1 m 1.4 h hotmail.com 11075 261578k 0 21.0 s 3.2 m yahoo.com 3926 92451k 5547 1.1 h 5.7 h webtv.net 3924 47431k 0 4.5 s 15.8 m opt-in4email.com 2966 70305k 6 20.0 s 28.0 m cs.com 2735 63637k 578 3.2 m 2.0 h msn.com 2117 49463k 79 1.6 m 4.8 h home.com 899 21084k 0 11.7 s 36.0 s earthlink.net 837 20329k 3557 3.0 h 20.0 h excite.com 618 14843k 0 12.8 s 21.0 s juno.com 574 13775k 0 13.0 s 2.1 m bellsouth.net 471 11362k 0 13.1 s 33.0 s prodigy.net 410 9460k 0 15.7 s 1.7 m mediaone.net 402 9591k 0 13.5 s 1.9 m netscape.net 369 8606k 0 13.7 s 23.0 s worldnet.att.net 280 6655k 0 12.7 s 26.0 s sympatico.ca 259 5906k 0 10.8 s 18.0 s peoplepc.com 257 6076k 0 18.5 s 1.7 m gateway.net 237 5671k 0 17.6 s 1.5 m mindspring.com ... was a bad day for AOL, which usually has 0 defers and sub-20 second avg. In contrast, note the typically crappy peformance of MS's MX's. webtv and excite are so ludicrous, I don't bother to compare them with the big boys who have the volumes and should have the resources to be the best. I wonder what OS is run on the MX's of MS and AOL?? The above times are for how long a msg lived on disk in the mailqueue, from completion of injection to completion of delivery. I suspect a pretty good chunk of those seconds was queue wait time within the machine, and not just SMTP-session time, because I've seen other postfix gateways deliver 100's non-list mail to AOL, eg, with a sub-6-second average. ie, our poor little single, ATA100 disk is overwhelmed, but jokes can wait. :)) If you figure an average of 20 secs per delivery, for 500K msgs, that's 10 million delivery-seconds. If you had 1000 SMTP processes delivering in parallel, that's 10K seconds start to finish, about 3 hours, which is achievable with postfix. So your bandwidth calculation is not 3 gb in 24 hours, but in 3 hours. >The machine(s) I'm looking at will be P3-933Mhz with 1GB of RAM. My main >question is whether I will need to throw more than one machine at this. yes, no doubt about. one machine could do it, if you had the time to wait, but if you client wants spiked delivery, you will need multiple machines, say 2 to 4 primary machines. >I've done some calculations, and 500,000 emails at 5k each is 2.5GB/day. >Dividing that by 86400 (# of seconds/day) I get 28935 bytes/second, but I am >promised by the client that I'll have the bandwidth I need, so I'm just mostly >wondering if the machine will be the limiting factor The machine will be, so go multi-box. of maybe your bandwidth will be, if you want to deliver all 3 gb in one hour. DNS: put BIND8 as caching-only on each box as "forward first" with one external DNS box as a single forwarder. This will build a big, common cache in the forwarder, which will be shared among the caches in the BINDs of the MTAs. disk: 1. run softupdates on the logging and mailqueue filesystems 2. 2 disks: one for logging, one for mailq 3. use fast disks with big caching, 160 Mb/sec SCSI, with 64 or 128 megs of on-board caching. disk i/o for mailqueueing is the the limiting factor. 4. so, benchmark with md. or, with deep pockets, try SSD, solid state disk, for the mailqueue disk. :))) Actually, one user on the postfix lists run SSD to obtain highest possible disk bandwidth. 5. memory: 1 or 1.5 gb should be enough 6. SMTP/D processes. postfix prefers SMTPD processes receiving over SMTP processes sending. When the message injection source is high-capacity, SMTPD receiving will hog the disk bandwidth, such that SMTP sending will be starved of disk access to the mailqueue, and msg delivery rate suffers. Tough problem, and tedious to balannce by limiting the max number of SMTPD processes so that some disk bandwidth is left for SMTP processes. Wietse has recently added a new parameter that couples the receiving and sending rates, the "in_flow_delay" param, so that when out_flow is sensed as starved, you can set in_flow_delay to a number of seconds. This pauses in_flow so out_flow can send, dynamically coupling in_flow with out_flow to better share total disk bandwidth. if you weren't paying attention: disk bandwidth is the limiting factor. 7. the key to delivery is 100's of SMTP processes (about 1 mb/process) sending in parallel. So increase SMTP max from default of 50 to 500. STMPD of 50 should be enough to overwhelm the disk i/o. and run 2 or 3 primary outbound machines in parallel. 8. with 500K msgs, probably 5 or 6% will be dead addresses, so make sure you use a list manager with automatic bounce unsubscribe management. postfix helps here too, as it has a "fallback_relay" which allows you a two-tier delivery scheme, where certain classes of msgs undeliverable by the primary outbound relay will be dumped on the fallback_relay machine, freeing the primary relay's deferred queue and disk i/o for good deliverable addreses. >forum, I can ask it in -questions but I thought the people in -isp would >have more similar experience to what I'm asking. best place is to ask in the users list for the MTA you plan to use. Len http://MenAndMice.com/DNS-training http://BIND8NT.MEIway.com : ISC BIND 8.2.4 for NT4 & W2K http://IMGate.MEIway.com : Build free, hi-perf, anti-abuse mail gateways To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 4: 1:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from gw.uct.kiev.ua (gw.uct.kiev.ua [194.242.59.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 271A737B417; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 04:01:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from seth.uct.kiev.ua (seth.uct.kiev.ua [194.242.59.1]) by gw.uct.kiev.ua (None/Who_cares_?) with ESMTP id fASC1PL08172; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:01:25 +0200 (EET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by seth.uct.kiev.ua (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id fASC1DG71217; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:01:22 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ender@uct.kiev.ua) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 14:01:11 +0200 (EET) From: Andrew Khanoff To: Cc: , "'FreeBSD Stable'" , "'FreeBSD ISP'" Subject: RE: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available In-Reply-To: <3.0.5.32.20011127212744.01042450@mail.sage-american.com> Message-ID: <20011128135248.S68727-100000@seth.uct.kiev.ua> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 jacks@sage-american.com wrote: > Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:27:44 -0600 > ...do you have a limit set on the firewall logging compiled in the > kernel...??? packets can overload the system as I undertand it.... > hi, all I've got pretty much the same errors on both of my 4.4-STABLE routers(3.5-STABLE based work seems like ok). More to say, the second one is router with very little network load and with no ipfw rules except allow ip from any to any, and 100Mbps NIC onboard(connected btw in 10baseTx hub). netstat -m gives only 9 per cent use of mbuffers. What's up? Something strange is going on after lattest cvsups. Services running: squid, snmpd(running this one and polling it with mrtg encreases probability of "network lockup" in several times), pop3, sendmail, sshd. TIA for any help in this problem. ------------------------- wsi# netstat -m 68/384/4096 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): 68 mbufs allocated to data 64/100/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) 296 Kbytes allocated to network (9% of mb_map in use) 0 requests for memory denied 0 requests for memory delayed 0 calls to protocol drain routines -------------------------- wsi# uname -a FreeBSD abc.kiev.ua 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Fri Nov 9 10:43:08 EET 2001 ender@abc.kiev.ua:/usr/src/sys/compile/WSI i386 WBR Andrew Khanoff "UCT" Internet service provider System administrator -- AK11361-RIPE | ANK1-UANIC phone: +380442208170 ICQ#:9157815 AS20785 MNT To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 6:50:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.jorsm.com (mercury.jorsm.com [207.112.128.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A08E37B416 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 06:50:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by mercury.jorsm.com (Postfix, from userid 101) id 0EB67E4A11; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:50:19 -0600 (CST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.jorsm.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0213AE0C4E for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:50:18 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:50:18 -0600 (CST) From: Jeff Lynch To: 'FreeBSD ISP' Subject: RE: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available In-Reply-To: <20011128135248.S68727-100000@seth.uct.kiev.ua> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Andrew Khanoff wrote: > On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 jacks@sage-american.com wrote: > hi, all > I've got pretty much the same errors on both of my 4.4-STABLE > routers(3.5-STABLE based work seems like ok). More to say, the second one > is router with very little network load and with no ipfw rules except > allow ip from any to any, and 100Mbps NIC onboard(connected btw in > 10baseTx hub). netstat -m gives only 9 per cent use of mbuffers. What's > up? Something strange is going on after lattest cvsups. Services running: > squid, snmpd(running this one and polling it with mrtg encreases > probability of "network lockup" in several times), pop3, sendmail, sshd. > TIA for any help in this problem. > > ------------------------- > wsi# netstat -m > 68/384/4096 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): > 68 mbufs allocated to data > 64/100/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) > 296 Kbytes allocated to network (9% of mb_map in use) > 0 requests for memory denied > 0 requests for memory delayed > 0 calls to protocol drain routines > -------------------------- > wsi# uname -a > > FreeBSD abc.kiev.ua 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Fri Nov 9 10:43:08 > EET 2001 ender@abc.kiev.ua:/usr/src/sys/compile/WSI i386 > Ok, here's a netstat -m from our cron script that restarts the tunnel ping: sendto: No buffer space available $netstat -m 392/704 mbufs in use: 309 mbufs allocated to data 83 mbufs allocated to packet headers 215/400/10000 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) 888 Kbytes allocated to network (53% in use) 0 requests for memory denied 0 requests for memory delayed 0 calls to protocol drain routines This is a one-way tunnel flowing from a 3.5-STABLE machine to a 4.4-RELEASE box. ============================================================================ Jeffrey A. Lynch | JORSM Internet, Regional Internet Services email: jeff@jorsm.com | 7 Area Codes in Chicagoland and NW Indiana Voice: (219)322-2180 | 100Mbps+ Connectivity, 56K-DS3, V.90, ISDN Autoresponse: info@jorsm.com | Quality Service, Affordable Prices http://www.jorsm.com | Serving Gov, Biz, Residential Since 1995 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 7:10:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.lambertfam.org (www.lambertfam.org [209.142.170.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 185C837B41B for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 07:10:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from laptop.lambertfam.org (dialup-63.210.223.191.Dial1.NewYork1.Level3.net [63.210.223.191]) by www.lambertfam.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4330164C19 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:10:31 -0600 (CST) Received: by laptop.lambertfam.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F2A5B28B09; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 10:10:28 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 10:10:28 -0500 From: Scott Lambert To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available Message-ID: <20011128151028.GA601@laptop.lambertfam.org> Reply-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org References: <3C048E4D.5030609@quake.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 08:51:24PM +1100, Rowan Crowe wrote: > On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Kal Torak wrote: > > > Hmm I have never noticed the link light go out... And I actualy do > > force the config in my rc.conf, I have "media 10baseT/UTP up" as > > the strings for mine... > > The ADSL link itself is up, but the path to the host you're running the > PPPoE tunnel with is broken. > > > I am convinced now that this is caused by telstra dropping out and > > the send que filling up... But why does it not empty? Is there some > > way to fix this??? Would upping the mbufs work? Because the way I > > see it if I increase them it will just fill them all anyway if the > > link is down long enough?? > > Does PPPoE have LCP echo or other link quality measuring facilities like > LQR? If so, set it up so that it detects when the other end dies, downs > the interface, then retries logins periodically, succeeding when the path > is again working. This is what I had to do with my PPPoE ADSL link to Centurytel. I have about 15 minutes of downtime per day with them. They just disappear. Centurytel's equipment sends ECHO LQR requests but ppp doesn't seem to care if those stop coming in. My connection just stayed down until I added the LQR requests to my ppp.conf: enable lqr set lqrperiod 30 Now my ppp.log shows my router box redialing and not seeing any PPPoE traffic (or carrier?) for 5 to 30 minutes after the LQR monitoring dies. At least they usually do come back up. -- Scott Lambert KC5MLE Unix SysAdmin -- Looking for work. lambert@lambertfam.org http://www.lambertfam.org/~lambert/resume.html 2.5 years Sr. SysAdmin experience with FreeBSD in small & medium size ISPs. The last 5 months have included exposure to Solaris 7, True64 5, and Linux. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 7:36:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from savvyworld.net (adsl-64-173-182-158.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [64.173.182.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F1D37B417; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 07:36:40 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by savvyworld.net (8.11.6/8.11.4) id fASFadO82548; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 07:36:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Received: from 64.173.182.155 ( [64.173.182.155]) as user eculp@SavvyWorld.Net by Mail.SavvyWorld.Net with HTTP; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 07:36:39 -0800 Message-ID: <1006961799.3c0504870e978@Mail.SavvyWorld.Net> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 07:36:39 -0800 From: Edwin Culp To: hardware@freebsd.org, isp@freebsd.org Subject: fnord-430/SuperMicro P3TDE6/ServerWorks SS III HE Super LIght MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 4.0-cvs X-Originating-IP: 64.173.182.155 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I just bought a fnord 430 with a SuperMicro P3TDE6 motherboard with the ServerWorks ServerSet III HE Super Light chipset. It has 2 - 1G PC133 RG DIMM C3 128X72 VR Kingston memory chips. The problem is Signal 11 panics. It seems to be memory related. Kingston sent 2 replacement chips. I installed them and it made it noticeably worse. With the new chips I can't even get through an fsck. With the old chips I haven't been able to do a build world. I will sometimes get about halfway through. Does anyone else seen problems with a similar installation. I have been fighting with this for about four weeks now and can't make it work. It has two 3ware escalade controlers. I have current on one and release on the other and they exhibit the same symtoms. I even took the escalade controllers out and did an installation on an ide disk with no real change. Any ideas will sure be appreciated. I haven't been successful at rousting anyone at fnord for over two weeks. They delivered the machine almost a month late because they were having problems installing freebsd, their standard installation, which makes me think that they were having the same problems and rather than fixing them decided to ship:-( Has anyone else had good/bad experiences with FNord and especially with the 430? [ http://fnordsystems.com ] Thanks, ed --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 7:54:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sanyu1.sanyutel.com (sanyu1.sanyutel.com [216.250.215.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 42F8637B417 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 07:54:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (ksemat@localhost) by sanyu1.sanyutel.com (8.11.3/) with ESMTP id fASFuId20990; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 18:56:18 +0300 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 18:56:18 +0300 (EAT) From: To: Edwin Culp Cc: Subject: Re: fnord-430/SuperMicro P3TDE6/ServerWorks SS III HE Super LIght In-Reply-To: <1006961799.3c0504870e978@Mail.SavvyWorld.Net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I just bought a fnord 430 with a SuperMicro P3TDE6 motherboard with > the ServerWorks ServerSet III HE Super Light chipset. It has 2 - 1G > PC133 RG DIMM C3 128X72 VR Kingston memory chips. The problem is > Signal 11 panics. It seems to be memory related. Kingston sent 2 > replacement chips. I installed them and it made it noticeably worse. > With the new chips I can't even get through an fsck. With the old > chips I haven't been able to do a build world. I will sometimes get > about halfway through. Does anyone else seen problems with a similar > installation. I have been fighting with this for about four weeks now > and can't make it work. Just for a test get some 256 RAM chips maybe just two or even one and try to install and see what happens. If it works, then you can condemn the chips. Noah. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 8: 1:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.infowest.com (ns1.infowest.com [204.17.177.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7884637B419; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:01:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (208.186.108.30.dsl.infowest.net [208.186.108.30]) by ns1.infowest.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5EF302146B; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:01:49 -0700 (MST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Samuel J.Greear Organization: GetMegabits, Inc. To: Edwin Culp , hardware@freebsd.org, isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fnord-430/SuperMicro P3TDE6/ServerWorks SS III HE Super LIght Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 08:58:45 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3] References: <1006961799.3c0504870e978@Mail.SavvyWorld.Net> In-Reply-To: <1006961799.3c0504870e978@Mail.SavvyWorld.Net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20011128160149.5EF302146B@ns1.infowest.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday 28 November 2001 08:36 am, Edwin Culp wrote: > I just bought a fnord 430 with a SuperMicro P3TDE6 motherboard with the > ServerWorks ServerSet III HE Super Light chipset. It has 2 - 1G PC133 > RG DIMM C3 128X72 VR Kingston memory chips. The problem is Signal 11 > panics. It seems to be memory related. Kingston sent 2 replacement > chips. I installed them and it made it noticeably worse. With the > new chips I can't even get through an fsck. With the old chips > I haven't been able to do a build world. I will sometimes > get about halfway through. Does anyone else seen problems with > a similar installation. I have been fighting with this for about > four weeks now and can't make it work. > > It has two 3ware escalade controlers. I have current on one and > release on the other and they exhibit the same symtoms. I even > took the escalade controllers out and did an installation on > an ide disk with no real change. > > Any ideas will sure be appreciated. I haven't been successful at > rousting anyone at fnord for over two weeks. They delivered the > machine almost a month late because they were having problems > installing freebsd, their standard installation, which makes me > think that they were having the same problems and rather than > fixing them decided to ship:-( > > Has anyone else had good/bad experiences with FNord and especially with > the 430? [ http://fnordsystems.com ] > > Thanks, > > ed > We had some problems with several ServerWorks-based boards.. (Intel) Symptoms were remarkably similar, seemingly random panics (sig11). At first we thought it was RAM, but the memory checked out good, then we thought it might be a heat issue, so we pulled the cover and got some fans blowing on it, this helped a bit. Then we decided to try running a UP kernel, this helped considerably but didn't completely eliminate the problem. Finally, we flashed the BIOS to the newest version, not a problem since. Sam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 8: 5:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.amigo.net (smtp1.amigo.net [209.94.64.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B261F37B416 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:05:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (billing.amigo.net [209.94.67.250]) by smtp1.amigo.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id fASGAb147780 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:10:38 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from randys@amigo.net) Message-Id: <200111281610.fASGAb147780@smtp1.amigo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Randy Smith Organization: Amigo.Net To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: OT? Server Maint. Practices Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:07:02 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, This isn't neccesarily a tech question but more a point for general discussion. I'm the lone Sys Admin (and company programmer) for a small-ish ISP in Colorado and maintain a dozen or so FreeBSD servers. (Email, Web, RADIUS, DNS, etc.) I frequently find that I don't have enough time in the course of a day to keep track of everything that I need to with the servers. How do you all cope with the administrative load as the number of servers go up? Thanks in advance. -- Randy Smith Amigo.Net Systems Administrator 1-719-589-6100 x 4185 http://www.amigo.net/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 8:11:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from glow.radioactivedata.org (glow.radioactivedata.org [199.232.41.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D305737B420 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:11:25 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 95765 invoked by uid 7770); 28 Nov 2001 15:55:10 -0000 Received: from localhost.radioactivedata.org (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by localhost.radioactivedata.org with SMTP; 28 Nov 2001 15:55:10 -0000 Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 10:55:10 -0500 (EST) From: Mike DeGraw-Bertsch X-X-Sender: To: Randy Smith Cc: Subject: Re: OT? Server Maint. Practices In-Reply-To: <200111281610.fASGAb147780@smtp1.amigo.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Work longer hours. ;) -Mike On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Randy Smith wrote: > Hi, > > This isn't neccesarily a tech question but more a point for general > discussion. > > I'm the lone Sys Admin (and company programmer) for a small-ish ISP in > Colorado and maintain a dozen or so FreeBSD servers. (Email, Web, RADIUS, > DNS, etc.) I frequently find that I don't have enough time in the course of a > day to keep track of everything that I need to with the servers. How do you > all cope with the administrative load as the number of servers go up? > > Thanks in advance. > > -- > Randy Smith > Amigo.Net Systems Administrator > 1-719-589-6100 x 4185 > http://www.amigo.net/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 8:12:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from khi.comsats.net.pk (khi.comsats.net.pk [210.56.4.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5972F37B430 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:11:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from company.mail (ppp7-088khi.comsats.net.pk [210.56.7.88]) by khi.comsats.net.pk (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id fASGAE510652 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:10:14 +0500 (PKT) Received: from ahsanalikh [192.168.0.1] by company.mail [192.168.0.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.PRO.v4.0.5.T) for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:59:02 +0500 Message-ID: <002401c17825$9949acb0$0100a8c0@ahsanalikh> From: "Ahsan Ali" To: Subject: antivirus, webmail and virtual domain hosting on a mail server Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:59:02 +0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.1 X-Return-Path: ahsan@khi.comsats.net.pk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello guys, I need to build a mailserver that will be hosting multiple mail domains - both name based and IP based. I want to have a seperate user/password database for each domain and ideally host them in such a way that some are bound to the same IP and others get individual IPs. This means that the client pop software will need to be configured with a domain portion of the account to identify which virtual domain the client wishes to pop for. To this mix, I want to add virus scanning and ideally a webmail interface. I expect to have over 20,000 accounts after adding up all domains. The main ISP domain will probably have in excess of 18,000 accounts very soon. These accounts will be coming over dialup ports at 56K and I expect not more than 150 users to access their mail simultaneously. I was thinking this could be accomplished with a mix of qmail, neomail etc but although my mail administration experience is decent, up until now I've only worked with sendmail on linux and solaris. So if any of you are running this sort of configuration could you please give me some pointers to get started? The server I am considering using is a Dell PowerEdge 2550 with 1GB RAM, P3-1.26GHz and 36GB of disk space on a RAID 5 volume. I am considerring adding a second processor to cope with the antivirus scanning load. All tips and comments would be greatly appreciated, Thanks! -Ahsan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 8:15:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from infiniteloop.ca (infiniteloop.ca [216.126.86.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2B2337B417 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:15:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from blake (CPE0050DA7C7E5D.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.32.246]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by infiniteloop.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2DCF1C6; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:15:30 -0500 (EST) From: "Blake Crosby" To: "Ahsan Ali" , Subject: RE: antivirus, webmail and virtual domain hosting on a mail server Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:14:28 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <002401c17825$9949acb0$0100a8c0@ahsanalikh> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Definately use Postfix, easy to configure, and much more powerful than sendmail. As for your pop/imap daemon, either the courier suite (includes a webmail app) which uses maildir to store mail, or qpopper (maildir, by qualcomm). Blake > I was thinking this could be accomplished with a mix of qmail, neomail etc > but although my mail administration experience is decent, up > until now I've > only worked with sendmail on linux and solaris. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 8:16:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from infiniteloop.ca (infiniteloop.ca [216.126.86.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A63E37B440 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:16:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from blake (CPE0050DA7C7E5D.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.32.246]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by infiniteloop.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 537E91E8; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:16:40 -0500 (EST) From: "Blake Crosby" To: "Ahsan Ali" , Subject: RE: antivirus, webmail and virtual domain hosting on a mail server Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:15:37 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > As for your pop/imap daemon, either the courier suite (includes a webmail > app) which uses maildir to store mail, or qpopper (maildir, by qualcomm). > whoops, that should be "qpopper (mbox, by qualcomm)." Blake To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 8:17:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kermit.netivity.nl (wc-68.r-195-85-144.essentkabel.com [195.85.144.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CDFE37B419 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:17:08 -0800 (PST) Received: by KERMIT with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:17:01 +0100 Message-ID: <510EAC2065C0D311929200A02472526237A5C1@NETIVITY-FS> From: Enriko Groen To: 'Randy Smith' , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: OT? Server Maint. Practices Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 17:17:00 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Randy Smith [mailto:randys@amigo.net] > > I'm the lone Sys Admin (and company programmer) for a > small-ish ISP in > Colorado and maintain a dozen or so FreeBSD servers. (Email, Me too... (except for the Colorado thingie) > Web, RADIUS, > DNS, etc.) I frequently find that I don't have enough time in > the course of a > day to keep track of everything that I need to with the > servers. How do you > all cope with the administrative load as the number of servers go up? Two words: Automate & Delegate Make scripts that save you time and make them so easy that any zerobrain in the company can run them. At least... that's the way I'm trying to do it... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 8:18:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from virtual-voodoo.com (bdsl.66.12.217.106.gte.net [66.12.217.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ED3D37B41A for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:18:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from inlafrec (bdsl.66.12.217.40.gte.net [66.12.217.40]) (authenticated) by virtual-voodoo.com (8.11.6/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fASGIOS24743; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:18:24 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from steve@virtual-voodoo.com) Message-ID: <00db01c17828$4dd95c00$28d90c42@eservoffice.com> From: "Steven Ames" To: "Blake Crosby" , "Ahsan Ali" , References: Subject: Re: antivirus, webmail and virtual domain hosting on a mail server Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:18:23 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone successfully used vpopmail with postfix? I understand its possible, just have not done it... http://inter7.com/vpopmail/ Would prefer postfix to qmail (that's just my, not imperical data for that decision). -Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blake Crosby" To: "Ahsan Ali" ; Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 11:14 AM Subject: RE: antivirus, webmail and virtual domain hosting on a mail server > Definately use Postfix, easy to configure, and much more powerful than > sendmail. > > As for your pop/imap daemon, either the courier suite (includes a webmail > app) which uses maildir to store mail, or qpopper (maildir, by qualcomm). > > Blake > > > I was thinking this could be accomplished with a mix of qmail, neomail etc > > but although my mail administration experience is decent, up > > until now I've > > only worked with sendmail on linux and solaris. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 8:19:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.thenap.com (mailman.thenap.com [209.190.0.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DDD937B419 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:19:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by mailman.thenap.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:24:28 -0500 Message-ID: <75634F04BFCFD511BF69009027DC864904DBAE@mailman.thenap.com> From: Drew Weaver To: 'Enriko Groen' , 'Randy Smith' , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: OT? Server Maint. Practices Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:24:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Exactly, I do the same thing. I have scripts that add special (dedicated, static IP accouts) to radius, scripts that add zones and named.conf designations to my dns servers and et cetera, and I make sure that even the dial up users can do most of their maintenance themselves, IE Pop lock clearing and et cetera. Always looking for more ways to give me some day dreaming time =) -Drew -----Original Message----- From: Enriko Groen [mailto:enriko.groen@netivity.nl] Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 11:17 AM To: 'Randy Smith'; freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: OT? Server Maint. Practices > -----Original Message----- > From: Randy Smith [mailto:randys@amigo.net] > > I'm the lone Sys Admin (and company programmer) for a > small-ish ISP in > Colorado and maintain a dozen or so FreeBSD servers. (Email, Me too... (except for the Colorado thingie) > Web, RADIUS, > DNS, etc.) I frequently find that I don't have enough time in > the course of a > day to keep track of everything that I need to with the > servers. How do you > all cope with the administrative load as the number of servers go up? Two words: Automate & Delegate Make scripts that save you time and make them so easy that any zerobrain in the company can run them. At least... that's the way I'm trying to do it... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 8:25:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from khi.comsats.net.pk (khi.comsats.net.pk [210.56.4.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D21D037B405 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:25:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from company.mail (ppp7-088khi.comsats.net.pk [210.56.7.88]) by khi.comsats.net.pk (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id fASGO4511664 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:24:04 +0500 (PKT) Received: from ahsanalikh [192.168.0.1] by company.mail [192.168.0.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.PRO.v4.0.5.T) for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:24:33 +0500 Message-ID: <006201c17829$29f79c10$0100a8c0@ahsanalikh> From: "Ahsan Ali" To: References: Subject: Re: antivirus, webmail and virtual domain hosting on a mail server Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:24:33 +0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.1 X-Return-Path: ahsan@khi.comsats.net.pk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I cant resist asking this here - whats the basic difference between maildir and mbox? I'm assuming /var/spool/mail/username is mbox... so how does maildir work? I know, I'm going to RTFM in depth tonight! :) Thanks! -Ahsan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Blake Crosby" To: "Ahsan Ali" ; Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 9:15 PM Subject: RE: antivirus, webmail and virtual domain hosting on a mail server > > > As for your pop/imap daemon, either the courier suite (includes a webmail > > app) which uses maildir to store mail, or qpopper (maildir, by qualcomm). > > > > whoops, that should be "qpopper (mbox, by qualcomm)." > > Blake > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 8:31:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from virtual-voodoo.com (bdsl.66.12.217.106.gte.net [66.12.217.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 01D3F37B405 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:31:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from inlafrec (bdsl.66.12.217.40.gte.net [66.12.217.40]) (authenticated) by virtual-voodoo.com (8.11.6/8.11.5) with ESMTP id fASGV5S01357; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:31:05 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from steve@virtual-voodoo.com) Message-ID: <00fb01c1782a$13a31920$28d90c42@eservoffice.com> From: "Steven Ames" To: "Ahsan Ali" , References: <006201c17829$29f79c10$0100a8c0@ahsanalikh> Subject: Re: antivirus, webmail and virtual domain hosting on a mail server Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:31:04 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Maildir is a tad different. It was built to be NFS safe. Instead of storing all messages in one file, each message gets its own file... you end up with a couple of subdirectories (current, new and saved (if memory serves)), and then each message gets its own file. This drastically reduces file locking requirements as incoming messages go to their own file and don't interfere with the files being read by IMAP/POP, etc... And since NFS file locking has always been a bit picky, this is a Good Thing (tm). -Steve ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ahsan Ali" To: Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 11:24 AM Subject: Re: antivirus, webmail and virtual domain hosting on a mail server > I cant resist asking this here - whats the basic difference between maildir > and mbox? I'm assuming /var/spool/mail/username is mbox... so how does > maildir work? > > I know, I'm going to RTFM in depth tonight! :) > > Thanks! > > -Ahsan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Blake Crosby" > To: "Ahsan Ali" ; > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 9:15 PM > Subject: RE: antivirus, webmail and virtual domain hosting on a mail server > > > > > > > As for your pop/imap daemon, either the courier suite (includes a > webmail > > > app) which uses maildir to store mail, or qpopper (maildir, by > qualcomm). > > > > > > > whoops, that should be "qpopper (mbox, by qualcomm)." > > > > Blake > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 8:36: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from infiniteloop.ca (infiniteloop.ca [216.126.86.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 479B137B439 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:35:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from blake (CPE0050DA7C7E5D.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.32.246]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by infiniteloop.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E9DC1C6; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:35:43 -0500 (EST) From: "Blake Crosby" To: "Ahsan Ali" , Subject: RE: antivirus, webmail and virtual domain hosting on a mail server Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:34:40 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <006201c17829$29f79c10$0100a8c0@ahsanalikh> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mbox stores all of the mail in one single file (doesn't really matter where that file is) Maildir stores all of the mail in induvidual files, inside directories: ls -al Maildir: drwx------ 2 bcrosby wheel 66560 Nov 28 11:06 cur drwx------ 2 bcrosby wheel 512 Nov 28 11:06 new drwx------ 2 bcrosby wheel 512 Nov 28 11:27 tmp new mail is stored in new, read mail is stored in cur and tmp is for, well, I'm not quite sure. ls -al cur: -rw------- 1 bcrosby wheel 806 Sep 1 20:00 999388732.22875_1.infiniteloop.ca:2,S -rw------- 1 bcrosby wheel 612 Sep 1 23:02 999399767.23537_0.infiniteloop.ca:2,RS There is some debate as to which is more efficient, Maildir drastically reduces file locking issues (escpecially if you are using NFS). Blake > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Ahsan Ali > Sent: November 28, 2001 11:25 AM > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: antivirus, webmail and virtual domain hosting on a mail > server > > > I cant resist asking this here - whats the basic difference > between maildir > and mbox? I'm assuming /var/spool/mail/username is mbox... so how does > maildir work? > > I know, I'm going to RTFM in depth tonight! :) > > Thanks! > > -Ahsan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Blake Crosby" > To: "Ahsan Ali" ; > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 9:15 PM > Subject: RE: antivirus, webmail and virtual domain hosting on a > mail server > > > > > > > As for your pop/imap daemon, either the courier suite (includes a > webmail > > > app) which uses maildir to store mail, or qpopper (maildir, by > qualcomm). > > > > > > > whoops, that should be "qpopper (mbox, by qualcomm)." > > > > Blake > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 8:37:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from savvyworld.net (adsl-64-173-182-158.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [64.173.182.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6977437B405 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:37:05 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by savvyworld.net (8.11.6/8.11.4) id fASGaqk89698; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:36:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Received: from 64.173.182.155 ( [64.173.182.155]) as user eculp@SavvyWorld.Net by Mail.SavvyWorld.Net with HTTP; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:36:51 -0800 Message-ID: <1006965411.3c0512a3df893@Mail.SavvyWorld.Net> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:36:51 -0800 From: Edwin Culp To: ksemat@sanyutel.com Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fnord-430/SuperMicro P3TDE6/ServerWorks SS III HE Super LIght References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 4.0-cvs X-Originating-IP: 64.173.182.155 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Great idea. I will have to get two this uses interleaved memory. I think that is probably the cheapest troubleshooting solution. Thanks, ed Quoting ksemat@sanyutel.com: | | > I just bought a fnord 430 with a SuperMicro P3TDE6 motherboard with | > the ServerWorks ServerSet III HE Super Light chipset. It has 2 - 1G | > PC133 RG DIMM C3 128X72 VR Kingston memory chips. The problem is | > Signal 11 panics. It seems to be memory related. Kingston sent 2 | > replacement chips. I installed them and it made it noticeably worse. | > With the new chips I can't even get through an fsck. With the old | > chips I haven't been able to do a build world. I will sometimes get | > about halfway through. Does anyone else seen problems with a similar | > installation. I have been fighting with this for about four weeks now | > and can't make it work. | | Just for a test get some 256 RAM chips maybe just two or even one and try | to install and see what happens. If it works, then you can condemn the | chips. | | Noah. | | --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 8:47:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from savvyworld.net (adsl-64-173-182-158.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [64.173.182.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF5AB37B421; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:47:16 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by savvyworld.net (8.11.6/8.11.4) id fASGl5w89814; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:47:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Received: from 64.173.182.155 ( [64.173.182.155]) as user eculp@SavvyWorld.Net by Mail.SavvyWorld.Net with HTTP; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:47:05 -0800 Message-ID: <1006966025.3c05150958592@Mail.SavvyWorld.Net> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:47:05 -0800 From: Edwin Culp To: "Samuel J.Greear" Cc: hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: fnord-430/SuperMicro P3TDE6/ServerWorks SS III HE Super LIght References: <1006961799.3c0504870e978@Mail.SavvyWorld.Net> <20011128160149.5EF302146B@ns1.infowest.com> In-Reply-To: <20011128160149.5EF302146B@ns1.infowest.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 4.0-cvs X-Originating-IP: 64.173.182.155 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoting "Samuel J.Greear" : | On Wednesday 28 November 2001 08:36 am, Edwin Culp wrote: | > I just bought a fnord 430 with a SuperMicro P3TDE6 motherboard with the | > ServerWorks ServerSet III HE Super Light chipset. It has 2 - 1G PC133 | > RG DIMM C3 128X72 VR Kingston memory chips. The problem is Signal 11 | > panics. It seems to be memory related. Kingston sent 2 replacement | > chips. I installed them and it made it noticeably worse. With the | > new chips I can't even get through an fsck. With the old chips | > I haven't been able to do a build world. I will sometimes | > get about halfway through. Does anyone else seen problems with | > a similar installation. I have been fighting with this for about | > four weeks now and can't make it work. | > | > It has two 3ware escalade controlers. I have current on one and | > release on the other and they exhibit the same symtoms. I even | > took the escalade controllers out and did an installation on | > an ide disk with no real change. | > | > Any ideas will sure be appreciated. I haven't been successful at | > rousting anyone at fnord for over two weeks. They delivered the | > machine almost a month late because they were having problems | > installing freebsd, their standard installation, which makes me | > think that they were having the same problems and rather than | > fixing them decided to ship:-( | > | > Has anyone else had good/bad experiences with FNord and especially with | > the 430? [ http://fnordsystems.com ] | > | > Thanks, | > | > ed | > | | We had some problems with several ServerWorks-based boards.. (Intel) | Symptoms were remarkably similar, seemingly random panics (sig11). | At first we thought it was RAM, but the memory checked out good, | then we thought it might be a heat issue, so we pulled the cover | and got some fans blowing on it, this helped a bit. Then we decided | to try running a UP kernel, this helped considerably but didn't | completely eliminate the problem. Finally, we flashed the BIOS to | the newest version, not a problem since. That is what I wanted to do but can't get the floppy to boot:-( It works but will not boot under any circumstances. It'll boot from the cd, the hd and network but not the floppy. I'm going to have to bring it up with a windows cd, I guess, and then flash the bios from the floppy. thanks for your help, ed | | Sam | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message | --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 8:57: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from fap.abaid.com (fap.abaid.com [194.242.196.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 765C637B405 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 08:56:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from wap.sam.com (abaid.dnet.it [194.242.203.121]) by fap.abaid.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA96535; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 18:49:30 GMT (envelope-from amutsch@abaid.com) Received: from localhost (amutsch@localhost) by wap.sam.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fASI3Aj00931; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 19:03:11 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from amutsch@abaid.com) X-Authentication-Warning: wap.sam.com: amutsch owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 19:03:10 +0100 (CET) From: Andreas Mutschlechner X-Sender: amutsch@wap.sam.com To: Ahsan Ali Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: antivirus, webmail and virtual domain hosting on a mail server In-Reply-To: <002401c17825$9949acb0$0100a8c0@ahsanalikh> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I use qmail+vpopmail+sqwebmail+qmail-scanner+qmailadmin+daemontools and it works perfectly. All of this fine programs you can install from CD or make it from /usr/ports . Commercial support and a lot of documentation is available on http://www.inter7.com, the guys who wrote some of the software. Oter sites are: http://qmail-scanner.sourceforge.net/ http://www.qmail.org/ http://pobox.com/~djb/daemontools.html http://www.enderunix.org/isoqlog generates HTML Statistics All questions you made a solved by this software, you can even configure a default domain, so not all accounts need the domainpart. Not to mention that quota on mailboxes is supported, a mailinglistmanager will be installed too and you can configure everything over web. mbox stores all emails in one file maildir is a directory where every email is a single file. Greetings Andreas On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Ahsan Ali wrote: > Hello guys, > > I need to build a mailserver that will be hosting multiple mail domains - > both name based and IP based. > > I want to have a seperate user/password database for each domain and ideally > host them in such a way that some are bound to the same IP and others get > individual IPs. This means that the client pop software will need to be > configured with a domain portion of the account to identify which virtual > domain the client wishes to pop for. > > To this mix, I want to add virus scanning and ideally a webmail interface. I > expect to have over 20,000 accounts after adding up all domains. The main > ISP domain will probably have in excess of 18,000 accounts very soon. These > accounts will be coming over dialup ports at 56K and I expect not more than > 150 users to access their mail simultaneously. > > I was thinking this could be accomplished with a mix of qmail, neomail etc > but although my mail administration experience is decent, up until now I've > only worked with sendmail on linux and solaris. > > So if any of you are running this sort of configuration could you please > give me some pointers to get started? > > The server I am considering using is a Dell PowerEdge 2550 with 1GB RAM, > P3-1.26GHz and 36GB of disk space on a RAID 5 volume. I am considerring > adding a second processor to cope with the antivirus scanning load. > > All tips and comments would be greatly appreciated, Thanks! > > -Ahsan > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 9:17:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from thud.tbe.net (thud.tbe.net [209.123.109.174]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91A0437B41B for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:17:40 -0800 (PST) Received: by thud.tbe.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 0456F1C9453; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:17:16 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thud.tbe.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00BDCDD09C; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:17:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:17:15 -0500 (EST) From: "Gary D. Margiotta" To: Drew Weaver Cc: 'Enriko Groen' , 'Randy Smith' , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: OT? Server Maint. Practices In-Reply-To: <75634F04BFCFD511BF69009027DC864904DBAE@mailman.thenap.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Scripts and databases... Just about any conf file you need can be created and maintained via a web interface with a database backend holding all the info, and then have simple scripts to pull out the info and create our configs either cron'd or as you need them. Case in point, Apache and DNS. Simple database with IPs and virtualhost info, and every hour you can regenerate your entire set of zone files, the named.conf and your apache virtualhosts, and any additions via the web interface for the non-admin monkeys in the past hour will all be incorporated in the next set of changes, and you always have the option of a spot change in an emergency by running the scripts manually. I did all my stuff by hand and it took me forever, and migrating to a new server was a PITA. Now, having learned enough Perl and MySQL, I've got more time for the more important things, like Half-Life... :) -Gary "Complexity breeds bugs. Bugs prevent adoption, lack of adoption results in death. Death not good." On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Drew Weaver wrote: > Exactly, I do the same thing. I have scripts that add special (dedicated, > static IP accouts) to radius, scripts that add zones and named.conf > designations to my dns servers and et cetera, and I make sure that even the > dial up users can do most of their maintenance themselves, IE Pop lock > clearing and et cetera. > > Always looking for more ways to give me some day dreaming time =) > > -Drew > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Enriko Groen [mailto:enriko.groen@netivity.nl] > Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 11:17 AM > To: 'Randy Smith'; freebsd-isp@freebsd.org > Subject: RE: OT? Server Maint. Practices > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Randy Smith [mailto:randys@amigo.net] > > > > I'm the lone Sys Admin (and company programmer) for a > > small-ish ISP in > > Colorado and maintain a dozen or so FreeBSD servers. (Email, > > Me too... (except for the Colorado thingie) > > > Web, RADIUS, > > DNS, etc.) I frequently find that I don't have enough time in > > the course of a > > day to keep track of everything that I need to with the > > servers. How do you > > all cope with the administrative load as the number of servers go up? > > Two words: Automate & Delegate > > Make scripts that save you time and make them so easy that any zerobrain in > the company can run them. > > At least... that's the way I'm trying to do it... > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 9:50:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.amigo.net (smtp1.amigo.net [209.94.64.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 669BE37B419 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:50:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from there (billing.amigo.net [209.94.67.250]) by smtp1.amigo.net (8.11.4/8.11.4) with SMTP id fASHtk158034; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 10:55:50 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from randys@amigo.net) Message-Id: <200111281755.fASHtk158034@smtp1.amigo.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Randy Smith Organization: Amigo.Net To: Scott Lambert Subject: Re: OT? Server Maint. Practices Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 10:52:10 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.1] References: <200111281610.fASGAb147780@smtp1.amigo.net> <20011128163306.GB601@laptop.lambertfam.org> In-Reply-To: <20011128163306.GB601@laptop.lambertfam.org> Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wednesday 28 November 2001 09:33, you wrote: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 09:07:02AM -0700, Randy Smith wrote: > > Hi, > > > > This isn't neccesarily a tech question but more a point for general > > discussion. > > > > I'm the lone Sys Admin (and company programmer) for a small-ish ISP in > > Colorado and maintain a dozen or so FreeBSD servers. (Email, Web, RADIUS, > > DNS, etc.) I frequently find that I don't have enough time in the course > > of a day to keep track of everything that I need to with the servers. How > > do you all cope with the administrative load as the number of servers go > > up? > > Hire me to help. :-) I really want to move back to Colorado. I wish! I'm underpaid as it is. :-) > > Or do like I was doing on a similar job for CSW Net, work 16 hours per day. My wife would probably kill me. It's bad enough when I get paged on those rare occations when something breaks. > > Have you farmed out your NNTP to someone like Critical Path yet? I was > able to buy reader slots on their server for less money than the time I > was spending admin'ing my own NNTP server. I also saved about 2Mb of > inbound bandwidth in the process. I offloaded NNTP about a year ago. You're right, it was too much hassle. -- Randy Smith Amigo.Net Systems Administrator 1-719-589-6100 x 4185 http://www.amigo.net/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 9:57:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from savvyworld.net (adsl-64-173-182-158.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [64.173.182.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D6A637B41B; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:56:42 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by savvyworld.net (8.11.6/8.11.4) id fASHuen90657; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:56:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Received: from 64.173.182.155 ( [64.173.182.155]) as user eculp@SavvyWorld.Net by Mail.SavvyWorld.Net with HTTP; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:56:40 -0800 Message-ID: <1006970200.3c05255835ec3@Mail.SavvyWorld.Net> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 09:56:40 -0800 From: Edwin Culp To: John Von Essen Cc: isp@freebsd.org, hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: fnord-430/SuperMicro P3TDE6/ServerWorks SS III HE Super LIght References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 4.0-cvs X-Originating-IP: 64.173.182.155 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John, Thank you so much for your reply. Your offer is what I expected from Fnord Systems and I have received the exact opposite. I unfortunately paid cash in advance. The even took 10 days extra because they claimed that their bank hadn't released the funds, before ordering the parts of the server. I even had to put up my credit card with Kingston to get them to ship the two chips. I am going to do the following, get two more chips 256 or 512 to be sure that it isn't the ram. Upgrade the bios to eliminate that option. Then if I can't get Fnord to fulfill their warranty, I will take you up on your offer and direct all my future business your way. Thanks, again. ed Quoting John Von Essen : | Well, my company sells server systems very similar to that of Fnord. From | what I can tell, they are not fulfilling their "2 Year Warranty". Obviously | the hardware is defective. If you paid with a credit card, you can have | your | card company refund the money for failure to return defective items. | | Otherwise, I would EMAIL supermicro Tech support. You cant call, but email | will work. I think it is support@supermicro.com. Give them all the specs. | They test their hardware for linux and freebsd now, so they might help. It | is possible that it is a bad board. | | If you get nowhere, I can offer the following help. We use those same | chassis's. I can supply you with new "guts" to get you up and running. Guts | being, a new ServerWorks mainboard. We use the TYAN 2518, which uses Reg. | ECC PC133 SDRAM and ServerWorks. These boards work great on FreeBSD. You | can | keep your processors and memory, as long as they are okay, which they | probably are. | | Best of luck... | | If you want to copy this to freebsd list, go ahead. | | | | John Von Essen | President, Essenz Consulting (www.essenz.com) | EMAIL: john@essenz.com | DIRECT PHONE: (800) 248-1736 | International: +01 814 861 0922 | | | on 11/28/01 12:22 PM, eculp@EnContacto.Net wrote: | | > John, | > | > That is what I have been trying to do but to not loose even more time | > I am trying to fix the problem. It has, I think, to be fixable:-) | > | > Fnord service has gone from bad to impossible. They are great at passing | > the buck on everything and will not except responsibility for anything. | > They won't even answer their emails. | > | > I see you are a consultant also, I would definately not recommend fnord | to | > you, | > although the box is well built and, IMO, with great components and a | > reasonable | > price. I just don't get it unless they are about to go under. | > | > Thanks for the help, | > | > ed | > | > P.S. Would you mind if I resend this with a copy to the list, that might | > help get Fnord's attention. I actually found them from on of my | > posts for server recommendations on isp or hardward, I don't remember. | > They are/were subscribed. I've actually waited a month to do this, BTW. | > | > Quoting John Von Essen : | > | > | This may be an obvious solution, but... | > | | > | Why don't you contact Fnord Systems and ask them why their hardware | doesn't | > | work out-of-the-box??? It seems that they did not even test it before | > | shipping... | > | | > | Otherwise... After the 840 chipset disaster with Supermicro, I have | stayed | > | away entirely from Supermicro boards. | > | | > | | > | | > | John Von Essen | > | President, Essenz Consulting (www.essenz.com) | > | EMAIL: john@essenz.com | > | DIRECT PHONE: (800) 248-1736 | > | International: +01 814 861 0922 | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | | > | on 11/28/01 10:36 AM, eculp@EnContacto.Net wrote: | > | | > | > I just bought a fnord 430 with a SuperMicro P3TDE6 motherboard with | the | > | > ServerWorks ServerSet III HE Super Light chipset. It has 2 - 1G | PC133 | > | > RG DIMM C3 128X72 VR Kingston memory chips. The problem is Signal 11 | > | > panics. It seems to be memory related. Kingston sent 2 replacement | > | > chips. I installed them and it made it noticeably worse. With the | > | > new chips I can't even get through an fsck. With the old chips | > | > I haven't been able to do a build world. I will sometimes | > | > get about halfway through. Does anyone else seen problems with | > | > a similar installation. I have been fighting with this for about | > | > four weeks now and can't make it work. | > | > | > | > It has two 3ware escalade controlers. I have current on one and | > | > release on the other and they exhibit the same symtoms. I even | > | > took the escalade controllers out and did an installation on | > | > an ide disk with no real change. | > | > | > | > Any ideas will sure be appreciated. I haven't been successful at | > | > rousting anyone at fnord for over two weeks. They delivered the | > | > machine almost a month late because they were having problems | > | > installing freebsd, their standard installation, which makes me | > | > think that they were having the same problems and rather than | > | > fixing them decided to ship:-( | > | > | > | > Has anyone else had good/bad experiences with FNord and especially | with | > | > the 430? [ http://fnordsystems.com ] | > | > | > | > Thanks, | > | > | > | > ed | > | > | > | > | > | > --- | > | > | > | > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | > | > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message | > | > | > | | > | | > | > | > | > | > --- | > | | --- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 12:30: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from khi.comsats.net.pk (khi.comsats.net.pk [210.56.4.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AEB737B405 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:30:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from company.mail (ppp7-088khi.comsats.net.pk [210.56.7.88]) by khi.comsats.net.pk (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id fASKSC510356 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 01:28:12 +0500 (PKT) Received: from ahsanalikh [192.168.0.1] by company.mail [192.168.0.1] with SMTP (MDaemon.PRO.v4.0.5.T) for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 01:29:06 +0500 Message-ID: <000d01c1784b$534d4de0$0100a8c0@ahsanalikh> From: "Ahsan Ali" To: References: Subject: Re: antivirus, webmail and virtual domain hosting on a mail server Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 01:29:05 +0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 X-MDRemoteIP: 192.168.0.1 X-Return-Path: ahsan@khi.comsats.net.pk X-MDaemon-Deliver-To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thank you Steven, Blake and Andreas, your suggestions were invaluable. :-) -Ahsan > I use qmail+vpopmail+sqwebmail+qmail-scanner+qmailadmin+daemontools and it > works perfectly. All of this fine programs you can install from CD or make > it from /usr/ports . Commercial support and a lot of documentation > is available on http://www.inter7.com, the guys who wrote some of the > software. > Oter sites are: > http://qmail-scanner.sourceforge.net/ > http://www.qmail.org/ > http://pobox.com/~djb/daemontools.html > http://www.enderunix.org/isoqlog generates HTML Statistics > All questions you made a solved by this software, you can even > configure a default domain, so not all accounts need the domainpart. > Not to mention that quota on mailboxes is supported, a mailinglistmanager > will be installed too and you can configure everything over web. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 12:42: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from altoonanet.altoonanet.com (ns1.altoonanet.com [12.151.19.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7812737B419 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:41:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 11650 invoked by uid 2525); 28 Nov 2001 16:44:45 -0000 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Help: Virus Protection Message-ID: <1006965885.3c05147d64ba7@webmail.blacklight.ca> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 11:44:45 -0500 (EST) From: Kevin Turner MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 216.208.96.66 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't think my last email made it to the list, so here goes. I am running a bunch of Freebsd boxes that use sendmail / qpopper. Lately the virus problem is getting really bad. I need to find a solution so that my customers do not receive these virii. What would be the easiest and best solution to this problem? I'm not very experienced with server-side virus protection. Any help and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Best Regards, Kevin Turner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 12:46:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from altoonanet.altoonanet.com (ns1.altoonanet.com [12.151.19.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E8C7A37B41A for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:46:52 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 14504 invoked by uid 2525); 28 Nov 2001 18:03:00 -0000 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Help: Virus Protection Message-ID: <1006970580.3c0526d49fd7b@webmail.blacklight.ca> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:03:00 -0500 (EST) From: Kevin Turner MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 216.208.96.66 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't think my last email made it to the list, so here goes. I am running a bunch of Freebsd boxes that use sendmail / qpopper. Lately the virus problem is getting way out of hand. I need to find a solution so that my customers do not receive these viruses. What would be the quickest and best solution to this problem? I need to put something in place by this evening or tomorrow by the latest. Any help and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Best Regards, Kevin Turner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 12:51: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.web.de (smtp01.web.de [194.45.170.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA6E337B405 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 12:50:59 -0800 (PST) Received: from pd9e4a9c8.dip.t-dialin.net ([217.228.169.200] helo=web.de) by smtp.web.de with asmtp (Exim 3.32 #26) id 169BfR-0002Nh-00; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:50:54 +0100 Message-ID: <3C054DE1.6020003@web.de> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:49:37 +0100 From: Christoph Sold User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win 9x 4.90; en-US; rv:0.9.6+) Gecko/20011126 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kevin Turner Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Help: Virus Protection References: <1006970580.3c0526d49fd7b@webmail.blacklight.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Kevin Turner wrote: > I don't think my last email made it to the list, so here goes. > > I am running a bunch of Freebsd boxes that use sendmail / qpopper. > Lately the virus problem is getting way out of hand. I need to find a solution > so that my customers do not receive these viruses. > > What would be the quickest and best solution to this problem? > > I need to put something in place by this evening or tomorrow by the latest. > > Any help and suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Install amavis. Needs a custom licens, though. HTH -Christoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 13:21: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from altoonanet.altoonanet.com (ns1.altoonanet.com [12.151.19.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 80EDF37B419 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:20:58 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 4373 invoked from network); 28 Nov 2001 12:23:46 -0000 Received: from cpe0050046558fa.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com (HELO cr1048452a) (finary@24.156.44.78) by freedomhosting.com with SMTP; 28 Nov 2001 12:23:46 -0000 Message-ID: <00c701c17807$f1ce0700$4e2c9c18@etob.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> From: "Kevin Turner" To: Cc: Subject: Virus filters? Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 07:26:45 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I have a some FreeBSD machines all running sendmail. I need a way to block all these .exe, .pif files, etc. They are getting really bad and are starting to affect our customers. What would be the best way to prevent our users from receiving these emails? Thanks, Kevin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 13:25:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.cksoft.de (ns1.cksoft.de [62.111.66.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31DB137B505 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:25:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ns1.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3751714FA0; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 22:28:04 +0100 (CET) Received: by ns1.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 66) id 1331814F9D; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 22:28:03 +0100 (CET) Received: by hirvi.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8AB118F79; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 22:23:13 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hirvi.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86251136E0; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 22:23:13 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 22:23:13 +0100 (CET) From: Christian Kratzer X-X-Sender: To: Kevin Turner Cc: , Subject: Re: Virus filters? In-Reply-To: <00c701c17807$f1ce0700$4e2c9c18@etob.phub.net.cable.rogers.com> Message-ID: X-Spammer-Kill-Ratio: 75% MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Kevin Turner wrote: > Hello, > > I have a some FreeBSD machines all running sendmail. I need a way > to block all these .exe, .pif files, etc. They are getting really bad and > are > starting to affect our customers. > > What would be the best way to prevent our users from receiving these emails? I use postfix+amavis+sophos antivirus for freebsd. Of course you will have to license sophos or any other virus scanner for the number of mailboxes you have which does cost a bit. Greetings Christian -- CK Software GmbH Christian Kratzer, Schwarzwaldstr. 31, 71131 Jettingen Email: ck@cksoft.de Phone: +49 7452 889-135 Open Software Solutions, Network Security Fax: +49 7452 889-136 FreeBSD spoken here! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 13:31:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from infiniteloop.ca (infiniteloop.ca [216.126.86.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8EFA37B417 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:31:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from blake (CPE0050DA7C7E5D.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.32.246]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by infiniteloop.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 807551C6; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:31:33 -0500 (EST) From: "Blake Crosby" To: "Christian Kratzer" , "Kevin Turner" Cc: , Subject: RE: Virus filters? Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:30:29 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You can also use a regexp to filter out messages you dont want: In main.cf body_checks = regexp:/etc/postfix/body_checks in body_checks: /^I send you this file in order to have your advice$/ REJECT /^I hope you can help me with this file that I send$/ REJECT (the above is a regexp I use to stop messages that were infect with nimda to be delivered) Blake > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Christian Kratzer > Sent: November 28, 2001 4:23 PM > To: Kevin Turner > Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; kevin@blacklight.ca > Subject: Re: Virus filters? > > > Hi, > > On Wed, 28 Nov 2001, Kevin Turner wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I have a some FreeBSD machines all running sendmail. I need a way > > to block all these .exe, .pif files, etc. They are getting > really bad and > > are > > starting to affect our customers. > > > > What would be the best way to prevent our users from receiving > these emails? > > I use postfix+amavis+sophos antivirus for freebsd. > > Of course you will have to license sophos or any other virus scanner > for the number of mailboxes you have which does cost a bit. > > Greetings > Christian > > -- > CK Software GmbH > Christian Kratzer, Schwarzwaldstr. 31, 71131 Jettingen > Email: ck@cksoft.de > Phone: +49 7452 889-135 Open Software Solutions, > Network Security > Fax: +49 7452 889-136 FreeBSD spoken here! > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 13:33: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from infiniteloop.ca (infiniteloop.ca [216.126.86.53]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B7C37B416 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 13:33:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from blake (CPE0050DA7C7E5D.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.101.32.246]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128/128 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by infiniteloop.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82A5E1C6 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:32:59 -0500 (EST) From: "Blake Crosby" To: Subject: RE: Virus filters? Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 16:31:55 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org err.. I mean the Sircam virus.. silly me > (the above is a regexp I use to stop messages that were infect > with nimda to > be delivered) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 15: 1:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from shack.mine.nu (dsl94112.dyndsl.nettally.com [199.44.94.112]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 704F337B41A for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 15:01:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by shack.mine.nu (Postfix, from userid 2901) id A85E8145; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 18:03:13 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shack.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5114C for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 18:03:13 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 18:03:13 -0500 (EST) From: Tyler To: Subject: Virtual Password file for popd Message-ID: <20011128180031.Q74788-100000@shack.mine.nu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I created a virtual password file for popd in plain text that looks like the following: tyler@cagelink.com password I just don't know how to turn that into the database it needs to function properly when its functioning in the virtual mode. Tyler - Co-Owner/Administrator CageLink Internet Services http://www.cagelink.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 20: 1:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from imo-m09.mx.aol.com (imo-m09.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CDF9937B417 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:01:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from Nyteckjobs@aol.com by imo-m09.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id t.15a.4caab6b (25307); Wed, 28 Nov 2001 23:00:51 -0500 (EST) From: Nyteckjobs@aol.com Message-ID: <15a.4caab6b.29370cf3@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 23:00:51 EST Subject: Re: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available To: rowan@sensation.net.au Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It usually means that the send queue is full and for one reason or another its not getting processed. It seems to be a bug in FreeBSD...the resolution is for the lower layer to always accept the frame and drop it locally To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 20: 3: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from imo-m05.mx.aol.com (imo-m05.mx.aol.com [64.12.136.8]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F2AB37B416 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:03:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from Nyteckjobs@aol.com by imo-m05.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id 1.33.1ebef3ef (25307); Wed, 28 Nov 2001 23:02:43 -0500 (EST) From: Nyteckjobs@aol.com Message-ID: <33.1ebef3ef.29370d63@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 23:02:43 EST Subject: Re: FreeBSD performing worse than Linux? To: grog@lemis.com Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From a pure networking standpoint, Freebsd 4.4 outperforms linux 2.4.x by about 20%. The TCP stack not withstanding. Linux has serious problems with raw networking, and almost all of the ethernet drivers are suspect. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 20: 6:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com (imo-r04.mx.aol.com [152.163.225.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D27C37B417 for ; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 20:06:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from Nyteckjobs@aol.com by imo-r04.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id 4.3f.27ef171 (25307); Wed, 28 Nov 2001 23:06:24 -0500 (EST) From: Nyteckjobs@aol.com Message-ID: <3f.27ef171.29370e3f@aol.com> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2001 23:06:23 EST Subject: Re: Intel gigabit driver To: jlemon@flugsvamp.com Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 138 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In a message dated 11/28/01 8:33:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, jlemon@flugsvamp.com writes: > >The 'gx' driver was committed so that Jonathan's code would be on > >record, since he'd spent so much time and effort on it. Testing so > >far has indicated that the Intel driver is generally superior, but > > No, sorry. Testing has shown no such thing; the performance of > the drivers is equivalent, or even that gx has a slight edge. > > > >The Intel driver will be the preferred driver for these cards. > > That still is under discussion. For the record, the "intel" driver for eepro for Linux is a piece of crap (in that it can be locked up on demand), and they seem to have no interest in making it bulletproof. So just because Intel provides it doesnt mean its good or better than anything else around. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Nov 28 21: 8: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail014.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail014.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.175]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B75537B405; Wed, 28 Nov 2001 21:07:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from optusnet.com.au (golax4-143.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.147.143]) by mail014.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id fAT57pJ07488; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:07:51 +1100 Message-ID: <3C05C396.398631E4@optusnet.com.au> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:11:50 +1000 From: Ian Pulsford X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: "'FreeBSD Stable'" , "'FreeBSD ISP'" Subject: Re: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available References: <20011128135248.S68727-100000@seth.uct.kiev.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew Khanoff wrote: > > On Tue, 27 Nov 2001 jacks@sage-american.com wrote: > > > Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2001 21:27:44 -0600 > > ...do you have a limit set on the firewall logging compiled in the > > kernel...??? packets can overload the system as I undertand it.... > > > > hi, all > I've got pretty much the same errors on both of my 4.4-STABLE > routers(3.5-STABLE based work seems like ok). More to say, the second one > is router with very little network load and with no ipfw rules except > allow ip from any to any, and 100Mbps NIC onboard(connected btw in > 10baseTx hub). netstat -m gives only 9 per cent use of mbuffers. What's > up? Something strange is going on after lattest cvsups. Services running: > squid, snmpd(running this one and polling it with mrtg encreases > probability of "network lockup" in several times), pop3, sendmail, sshd. > TIA for any help in this problem. > > ------------------------- > wsi# netstat -m > 68/384/4096 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): > 68 mbufs allocated to data > 64/100/1024 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) > 296 Kbytes allocated to network (9% of mb_map in use) > 0 requests for memory denied > 0 requests for memory delayed > 0 calls to protocol drain routines > -------------------------- > wsi# uname -a > > FreeBSD abc.kiev.ua 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Fri Nov 9 10:43:08 > EET 2001 ender@abc.kiev.ua:/usr/src/sys/compile/WSI i386 > I had the same problem last night as I was using several newsreaders to access nntpcache on my FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE dialup router. It was fixed by hanging up the dialup connection and reconnecting. Also running squid, apache, icecast, postgresql. However I don't think it ran out of mbufs: 137/640/16384 mbufs in use (current/peak/max): 132 mbufs allocated to data 5 mbufs allocated to packet headers 131/390/4096 mbuf clusters in use (current/peak/max) 940 Kbytes allocated to network (7% of mb_map in use) 0 requests for memory denied 0 requests for memory delayed 0 calls to protocol drain routines Also have large send and recieve buffers set in /etc/sysctl.conf: net.inet.tcp.sendspace=65535 net.inet.tcp.recvspace=65535 It also happened about a month ago but I decided to let it slide unless it repeated. IanP To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 29 1: 3:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kermit.netivity.nl (wc-68.r-195-85-144.essentkabel.com [195.85.144.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6914E37B41C for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 01:03:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by KERMIT with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:03:39 +0100 Message-ID: <510EAC2065C0D311929200A02472526237A5C6@NETIVITY-FS> From: Enriko Groen To: "'freebsd-isp@freebsd.org'" Subject: Mail virusscanner Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 10:03:37 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm looking into buying a mail virusscanner Does anyone have suggestions? At this moment I'm thinking of GeCAD RAV (www.rav.ro). Does anyone have experience with this one? -- Enriko Groen, Hosting manager -------------------------------------------------------- netivity bv www.netivity.nl enriko.groen@netivity.nl 038 - 850 1000 van nagellstraat 4 8011 eb zwolle -------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 29 3:45:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.droso.net (koala.droso.net [193.162.142.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DC08237B503 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 03:45:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by mail.droso.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 212795BDC; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:45:15 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 12:45:15 +0100 From: Erwin Lansing To: Steven Ames Cc: Blake Crosby , Ahsan Ali , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: antivirus, webmail and virtual domain hosting on a mail server Message-ID: <20011129124515.C18652@mail.droso.net> References: <00db01c17828$4dd95c00$28d90c42@eservoffice.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <00db01c17828$4dd95c00$28d90c42@eservoffice.com>; from steve@virtual-voodoo.com on Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 11:18:23AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD/i386 4.4-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 11:18:23AM -0500, Steven Ames wrote: > > Anyone successfully used vpopmail with postfix? I understand its possible, > just have not done it... > > http://inter7.com/vpopmail/ > > Would prefer postfix to qmail (that's just my, not imperical data for that > decision). We're using postfix-mysql and tpop3d with custom scripts. Database design is pretty simple, which makes it easy to write scripts. We are not offering IMAP, but it shouldn't be too hard to find an imap daemon that can interface with the same database for authentication. Webmail like IMP can talk to any imap daemon. /erwin -- Erwin Lansing -- http://droso.org I love deadlines. -- Douglas Adams I love the whooshing sound they make as the fly by. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 29 4:12: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.wananchi.com (ns2.wananchi.com [212.49.74.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83CE37B41C for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 04:11:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from wash by ns2.wananchi.com with local (Exim 3.33 #1 (FreeBSD)) id 169Q1k-00063H-00; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:10:52 +0300 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:10:52 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: Ahsan Ali Cc: FBSD-ISP Subject: Re: antivirus, webmail and virtual domain hosting on a mail server Message-ID: <20011129151052.F15454@ns2.wananchi.com> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , Ahsan Ali , FBSD-ISP References: <002401c17825$9949acb0$0100a8c0@ahsanalikh> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <002401c17825$9949acb0$0100a8c0@ahsanalikh> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i X-Disclaimer: Any views expressed in this message,where not explicitly attributed otherwise, are mine alone!. X-Fortune: 1.79 x 10^12 furlongs per fortnight -- it's not just a good idea, it's the law! X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE i386 X-Best-Window-Manager: XFCE X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Designation: Systems Administrator, Wananchi Online Ltd. X-Location: Nairobi, KE, East Africa. X-Uptime: 3:09PM up 1 day, 6 hrs, 1 user, load averages: 3.36, 3.38, 3.26 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable * Ahsan Ali [20011128 19:12]: wrote: > Hello guys, >=20 > I need to build a mailserver that will be hosting multiple mail domains - > both name based and IP based. >=20 > I want to have a seperate user/password database for each domain and idea= lly > host them in such a way that some are bound to the same IP and others get > individual IPs. This means that the client pop software will need to be > configured with a domain portion of the account to identify which virtual > domain the client wishes to pop for. >=20 > To this mix, I want to add virus scanning and ideally a webmail interface= . I > expect to have over 20,000 accounts after adding up all domains. The main > ISP domain will probably have in excess of 18,000 accounts very soon. The= se > accounts will be coming over dialup ports at 56K and I expect not more th= an > 150 users to access their mail simultaneously. >=20 > I was thinking this could be accomplished with a mix of qmail, neomail etc > but although my mail administration experience is decent, up until now I'= ve > only worked with sendmail on linux and solaris. >=20 > So if any of you are running this sort of configuration could you please > give me some pointers to get started? These 2 would be a perfect solution: http://www.reedmedia.net/software/virtualmail-pop3d/ I use it with Exim (www.exim.org). Exim has a filter that catches these vir= ii. -Wash S y s t e m s A d m i n. --=20 Odhiambo Washington "The box said 'Requires Wananchi Online Ltd. www.wananchi.com Windows 95, NT, or better,' Tel: 254 2 313985-9 Fax: 254 2 313922 so I installed FreeBSD." =20 GSM: 254 72 743 223 GSM: 254 733 744 121 This sig is McQ! :-) ++ Never let your schooling interfere with your education. --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD4DBQE8BiXMn7LIsuxjem8RAnZLAJ4l86Ill88H2i1Jq5JG8ZSEB+dNlACXbDEF ROCrnTT09BXRKdO461kR6g== =mCn4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --MGYHOYXEY6WxJCY8-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 29 4:29:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from relay.kiev.sovam.com (relay.kiev.sovam.com [212.109.32.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B3CD37B41A for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 04:29:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.109.32.117] (helo=dimitry-vm.kiev.sovam.com) by relay.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #4) id 169QJa-0006gk-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:29:18 +0200 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:29:16 +0200 From: Dmitry Alyabyev X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Reply-To: Dmitry Alyabyev X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <50159216036.20011129142916@al.org.ua> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: FC host adapters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Howdy Can someone recommend well-supported under FreeBSD 4.x fiber channel adapters to connect with SAN equipment ? What about Qlogic cards (especially QLA 2200) ? Any comments/suggestions are welcome. -- Dimitry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 29 5: 3:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 071B937B509 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 05:02:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from [144.137.124.1] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id lmudaaaa for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 00:02:50 +1100 Message-ID: <3C063218.8040204@quake.com.au> Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 00:03:20 +1100 From: Kal Torak User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Win98; en-US; rv:0.9.5) Gecko/20011011 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Whats with this -> sendto: No buffer space available References: <15a.4caab6b.29370cf3@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nyteckjobs@aol.com wrote: > It usually means that the send queue is full and for one reason or another > its not getting processed. It seems to be a bug in FreeBSD...the resolution > is for the lower layer to always accept the frame and drop it locally Yes it would seem its a bug... Even though I am sure this is caused by problems with the ISP, it seems strange that this happens... Should the send queue not get emptyed out once the link comes back up?? Should it even fill up like this? Surly if the packets cant be sent for whatever reason they should be dropped after a while?? Return an ICMP destination unreachable or something like that back... Not just sit there and do nothing?! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 29 5:18:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from paperboy.sixforty.co.uk (paperboy.sixforty.co.uk [195.10.242.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72B3837B4EC for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 05:18:31 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by paperboy.sixforty.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.1) id fATDIUX57507 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:18:30 GMT (envelope-from freebsd-isp@epcdirect.co.uk) Delivered-To: Received: from lfarr (daisy.int.epcdirect.co.uk [192.168.6.200]) by paperboy.sixforty.co.uk (8.11.6/8.11.1av) with ESMTP id fATDIRW57499 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:18:27 GMT (envelope-from freebsd-isp@epcdirect.co.uk) From: "Lawrence Farr" To: Subject: Sendmail vs Postfix - Worth the change? Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 13:18:35 -0000 Message-ID: <000901c178d8$5991a1f0$c806a8c0@lfarr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3311 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have a very low traffic (12k messages a week, but rising slowly) sendmail server. Would I gain anything by switching to Postfix? Lawrence Farr EPC Direct Limited To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 29 5:26:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kermit.netivity.nl (wc-68.r-195-85-144.essentkabel.com [195.85.144.68]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E30FD37B505 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 05:26:18 -0800 (PST) Received: by KERMIT with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:26:12 +0100 Message-ID: <510EAC2065C0D311929200A02472526237A5D7@NETIVITY-FS> From: Enriko Groen To: 'Lawrence Farr' , freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Sendmail vs Postfix - Worth the change? Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:26:11 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > -----Original Message----- > From: Lawrence Farr [mailto:freebsd-isp@epcdirect.co.uk] > > I have a very low traffic (12k messages a week, but rising slowly) > sendmail server. > Would I gain anything by switching to Postfix? Easy administration. At least that's what I heard/hear. I never touched sendmail, just started off with Postfix. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 29 5:36:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from server.fox56.tv (svcr-adsl-216-222-236-30.epix.net [216.222.236.30]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B5EA37B432 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 05:36:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from bill (bill.fox56.tv [192.168.1.101]) by server.fox56.tv (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fATDhsX08245; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 08:44:07 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from billak@fox56.tv) Message-ID: <001e01c178da$4fecd7d0$6501a8c0@bill> From: "Bill A. K." To: "Ingrid Kast Fuller" , References: <9tsade$2rnn$1@FreeBSD.csie.NCTU.edu.tw> <3C05AD42.51EF62B7@cityscope.net> Subject: Re: Attack on server, need help ASAP Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 08:32:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think I have it straightened out, but thanks for offering. The server is running stable, with no evidence of intrusion, but I'm getting FreeBSD 4.4, and I'm going to install that as soon as I get it (I'll bring the server down for a few hours, probably at night and do a complete reformat). I'm running 4.2 now. This is my first time running FreeBSD as a server in an operating environment, and it is running very good. I have been messing with UNIX and FreeBSD for a while now, and I have enough knowledge to operate it, but sometimes I have to ask when a tricky situation comes up. Thanks again to you and everyone for all your help and offers of help. Bill billak@fox56.tv ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ingrid Kast Fuller" To: "Bill A. K." Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 10:36 PM Subject: Re: Attack on server, need help ASAP > Bill do you still need help? If so, you are welcome to call me (if you > receive this tonight 11/28, I'll be up until 10:30pm at least.) > I'll answer the work number below until then. Or call me tomorrow and we can > talk. Maybe I can help in the future with FreeBSD issues. > > "Bill A. K." wrote:My server was just attacked.........someone tried logging > in telnet, and = > > > apparently shut down the telnet daemon from trying (over 400 = > > times)....theres NOTHING in the logs, the ips were on the screen, but = > > stupid me started typing stuff and now they're gone. Is there a way to = > > get back what was on the screen, like a history of stdout? Please, = > > someone help, asap, I would really appreciate it. > > > > Bill > > billak@fox56.tv > > - > > Ingrid Kast Fuller, President > CityScope Net > 3910 Fairmont Parkway #264 > Pasadena, TX 77504-3066 > Voice: 713-477-6161 > Fax: 713-477-3734 > > http://www.cityscope.net > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 29 5:40: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from relay.kiev.sovam.com (relay.kiev.sovam.com [212.109.32.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8C8437B4CF for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 05:40:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.109.32.117] (helo=dimitry-vm.kiev.sovam.com) by relay.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #4) id 169RQ1-000NPT-00 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:40:01 +0200 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:40:00 +0200 From: Dmitry Alyabyev X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Reply-To: Dmitry Alyabyev X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <143163542174.20011129154000@al.org.ua> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: Sendmail vs Postfix - Worth the change? In-Reply-To: <510EAC2065C0D311929200A02472526237A5D7@NETIVITY-FS> References: <510EAC2065C0D311929200A02472526237A5D7@NETIVITY-FS> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thursday, November 29, 2001, 3:26:11 PM, Enriko Groen wrote: >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Lawrence Farr [mailto:freebsd-isp@epcdirect.co.uk] >> >> I have a very low traffic (12k messages a week, but rising slowly) >> sendmail server. >> Would I gain anything by switching to Postfix? > Easy administration. At least that's what I heard/hear. I never touched > sendmail, just started off with Postfix. Or move to Exim - very powerfull, quick and easy configurable too. -- Dimitry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 29 5:53:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.teligent.se (mail.teligent.se [212.209.126.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C186F37B431 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 05:53:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from senywts01 (senywts01.teligent.se [172.18.11.4]) by mail.teligent.se (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fATDahp17574; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:36:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jakob.alvermark@teligent.se) Message-ID: <01aa01c178dd$544a8540$040b12ac@teligent.se> From: "Jakob Alvermark" To: "Dmitry Alyabyev" , References: <50159216036.20011129142916@al.org.ua> Subject: Re: FC host adapters Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 14:54:13 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi! We are using the QLA 2200 with FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE with a Compaq HSG60. It works. IIRC the firmware on the QLA 2200 had to be upgraded to support boot from a SAN virtual disk when using with fabric. /Jakob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dmitry Alyabyev" To: Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 1:29 PM Subject: FC host adapters > Howdy > > Can someone recommend well-supported under FreeBSD 4.x fiber channel > adapters to connect with SAN equipment ? > What about Qlogic cards (especially QLA 2200) ? > > Any comments/suggestions are welcome. > > -- > Dimitry > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 29 5:58:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from relay.kiev.sovam.com (relay.kiev.sovam.com [212.109.32.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BC1337B437 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 05:58:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [212.109.32.117] (helo=dimitry-vm.kiev.sovam.com) by relay.kiev.sovam.com with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #4) id 169Rhk-0001NC-00; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:58:20 +0200 Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:58:21 +0200 From: Dmitry Alyabyev X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Reply-To: Dmitry Alyabyev X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <64164679489.20011129155821@al.org.ua> To: "Jakob Alvermark" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: FC host adapters In-Reply-To: <01aa01c178dd$544a8540$040b12ac@teligent.se> References: <50159216036.20011129142916@al.org.ua> <01aa01c178dd$544a8540$040b12ac@teligent.se> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi there Thursday, November 29, 2001, 3:54:13 PM, Jakob Alvermark wrote: > Hi! > We are using the QLA 2200 with FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE with a Compaq HSG60. > It works. does it work fine ? I've seen some strange notes in 'man isp': The driver currently ignores some NVRAM settings. The driver currently doesn't do error recovery for timed out commands very gracefully. Target mode support isn't completely debugged yet. It works reasonably well for Fibre Channel, somewhat well for Qlogic 1040 cards, but doesn't yet work for the other cards (due to last minute unnanounced changes in firmware interfaces). Sometimes, when booting, the driver gets stuck waiting for the Fibre Channel f/w to tell it that the loop port database is ready, or waiting for a good loop to be seen (this does not yet support booting without being connected to a fibre channel device). -- Dimitry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 29 6:40: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from bilver.wjv.com (spdsl-033.wanlogistics.net [63.209.115.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C512B37B431 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 06:40:04 -0800 (PST) Received: (from bv@localhost) by bilver.wjv.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) id fATEdjv82023; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:39:45 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bv) Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:39:44 -0500 From: Bill Vermillion To: "Bill A. K." Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Attack on server, need help ASAP Message-ID: <20011129093944.A81844@wjv.com> Reply-To: bv@wjv.com References: <9tsade$2rnn$1@FreeBSD.csie.NCTU.edu.tw> <3C05AD42.51EF62B7@cityscope.net> <001e01c178da$4fecd7d0$6501a8c0@bill> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <001e01c178da$4fecd7d0$6501a8c0@bill>; from billak@fox56.tv on Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 08:32:21AM -0500 Organization: W.J.Vermillion / Orlando - Winter Park Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, Nov 29, 2001 at 08:32:21AM -0500, Bill A. K. thus spoke: > I think I have it straightened out, but thanks for offering. > The server is running stable, with no evidence of intrusion, but > I'm getting FreeBSD 4.4, and I'm going to install that as soon as > I get it (I'll bring the server down for a few hours, probably at > night and do a complete reformat). I'm running 4.2 now. A reformat is probably un-neccesary, just remake all the file systems. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 29 6:53:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.teligent.se (mail.teligent.se [212.209.126.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE61D37B433 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 06:53:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from senywts01 (senywts01.teligent.se [172.18.11.4]) by mail.teligent.se (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id fATEajp31457; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:36:45 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from jakob.alvermark@teligent.se) Message-ID: <01dc01c178e5$b6bd7cc0$040b12ac@teligent.se> From: "Jakob Alvermark" To: "Dmitry Alyabyev" Cc: References: <50159216036.20011129142916@al.org.ua> <01aa01c178dd$544a8540$040b12ac@teligent.se> <64164679489.20011129155821@al.org.ua> Subject: Re: Re[2]: FC host adapters Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 15:54:14 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've not seen any of those problems so far. One thing has happened though, the HSG60 I have consists of two controllers (for fault tolerance). One of the controllers broke, and the FreeBSD machine has two virtual disks, one from each controller. The good controller took over from the failed controller. Then the virtual disks swaped order when booting it couldn't boot. I had to boot in single user mode and swap the device names in /etc/fstab, and change it back when the controller was fixed. Other than that, working like a charm. Using Legato Networker to do backups, which also works great. /Jakob > hi there > > Thursday, November 29, 2001, 3:54:13 PM, Jakob Alvermark wrote: > > > Hi! > > > We are using the QLA 2200 with FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE with a Compaq HSG60. > > It works. > > does it work fine ? > > I've seen some strange notes in 'man isp': > > The driver currently ignores some NVRAM settings. > > The driver currently doesn't do error recovery for timed out commands > very gracefully. > > Target mode support isn't completely debugged yet. It works reasonably > well for Fibre Channel, somewhat well for Qlogic 1040 cards, but doesn't > yet work for the other cards (due to last minute unnanounced changes in > firmware interfaces). > > Sometimes, when booting, the driver gets stuck waiting for the Fibre > Channel f/w to tell it that the loop port database is ready, or waiting > for a good loop to be seen (this does not yet support booting without > being connected to a fibre channel device). > > -- > Dimitry > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 29 9: 2:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from e-mail.inode.at (e-mail.inode.at [213.229.60.101]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F0A37B445 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 09:02:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from [62.99.136.18] (helo=ncc-1701.webonaut.com) by e-mail.inode.at with smtp (Exim 3.22 #2) id 169UZn-0007ai-00 for freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 18:02:19 +0100 Received: by ncc-1701.webonaut.com (Postfix, from userid 90) id C3DF32DF; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:53:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost.webonaut.com (localhost.webonaut.com [127.0.0.1]) by ncc-1701.webonaut.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47D6C2C2 for ; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:52:56 +0100 (CET) Subject: Re: antivirus, webmail and virtual domain hosting on a mail server From: Franz Klammer To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20011129124515.C18652@mail.droso.net> References: <00db01c17828$4dd95c00$28d90c42@eservoffice.com> <20011129124515.C18652@mail.droso.net> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Evolution/0.99.2 (Preview Release) Date: 29 Nov 2001 15:52:55 -0100 Message-Id: <1007052776.4807.1.camel@ncc-1701.webonaut.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org courier-imap supports mysql authentication and comes with a pop3-daemon. Here an description i found some month ago for an other vpopmail-solution with maildrop and userdb: http://groups.google.com/groups?q=postfix+userdb+maildrop&hl=en&rnum=3&selm=e6f631cb.0107060754.1555d2e4%40posting.google.com userdb is supported from both courier-imap and postfix. I dont use maildrop myself, but i tested it successfully at home. franz. Am Do , 2001-11-29 um 12.45 schrieb Erwin Lansing: > On Wed, Nov 28, 2001 at 11:18:23AM -0500, Steven Ames wrote: > > > > Anyone successfully used vpopmail with postfix? I understand its possible, > > just have not done it... > > > > http://inter7.com/vpopmail/ > > > > Would prefer postfix to qmail (that's just my, not imperical data for that > > decision). > > We're using postfix-mysql and tpop3d with custom scripts. Database > design is pretty simple, which makes it easy to write scripts. We are > not offering IMAP, but it shouldn't be too hard to find an imap daemon > that can interface with the same database for authentication. Webmail > like IMP can talk to any imap daemon. > > /erwin -- http://webonaut.com mailto:klammer@webonaut.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Nov 29 16:38:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from imo-d07.mx.aol.com (imo-d07.mx.aol.com [205.188.157.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 644DD37B419; Thu, 29 Nov 2001 16:38:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from A180009977889@aol.com by imo-d07.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v31_r1.9.) id n.fd.fd1f0de (1324); Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:38:13 -0500 (EST) From: A180009977889@aol.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 19:38:13 EST Subject: RE: Intel gigabit Driver To: hackers@freebsd.org Cc: isp@freebsd.org, tedm@toybox.placo.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 5.0 for Windows sub 139 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In a message dated 11/29/2001 7:16:17 AM Eastern Standard Time, tedm@toybox.placo.com writes: > Well, let me give you something else to put in your pipe and smoke. :-) > > I've spent about $800 on a few WANic 4xx cards (used, I'll grant) precisely > because > source for the driver is available. I happen to not use them with Frame > circuits so > I used the HDLC in the driver. > > I have spent $0.00 on ET cards precisely because the driver code is > unavailable. > > Now, as I've never used ET cards, I'll take your statement at face value > that > their drivers are superior to the WANic one. > But, I'm not going to pick a superior binary-only driver over an inferior source-freely-available driver, if I have a choice. You may think this is screwy but it's how I feel. You are entitled to your opinion, but you (and others) should explain that when you are making "recommendations" because Im sure there are those that actually think that you are recommending the best solution, which clearly isnt the case. Most people prefer a boom-box to a crystal set, and those reading your opinions don't understand that context. I seem to remember reading in some book that the main advantage FreeBSD has over linux is its corporate-friendly license (who wrote that thing anyway?)...yet you bash the concept of using the license. It seems a bit hypocritcal to me. 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To take yourself off my mailing list ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 14:22:56 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 68562 invoked from network); 30 Nov 2001 22:25:18 -0000 Received: from localhost.nexgen.com (HELO alexus) (root@127.0.0.1) by localhost.nexgen.com with SMTP; 30 Nov 2001 22:25:18 -0000 Message-ID: <000501c179ed$8e52ddd0$0d00a8c0@alexus> From: "alexus" To: Subject: radius server (radiator) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:22:54 -0500 Organization: NexGen MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi can someone suggest place for resouce for radius server (radiator) on configuration file, and maybe how-to or something like that thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 30 17: 9:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from virtual-voodoo.com (bdsl.66.12.217.106.gte.net [66.12.217.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB68B37B405 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 17:09:44 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by virtual-voodoo.com (8.11.6/8.11.5) id fB119f298049; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 20:09:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from steve) Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 20:09:41 -0500 From: Charlie Root To: alexus Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: radius server (radiator) Message-ID: <20011201010941.GA35526@virtual-voodoo.com> References: <000501c179ed$8e52ddd0$0d00a8c0@alexus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000501c179ed$8e52ddd0$0d00a8c0@alexus> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23.2i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org http://www.open.com.au/ On Fri, Nov 30, 2001 at 05:22:54PM -0500, alexus wrote: > hi > > can someone suggest place for resouce for radius server (radiator) on > configuration file, and maybe how-to or something like that > > thanks > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Nov 30 19:50:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sw2.swtch.com.au (sw2.swtch.com.au [203.87.73.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7B77037B417 for ; Fri, 30 Nov 2001 19:50:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from home (dialup-27-23.swtch.com.au [203.87.27.23]) by sw2.swtch.com.au (Vircom SMTPRS 4.6.189) with SMTP id for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 13:20:25 +0930 Message-ID: <080701c17a1b$cc64fa80$1901a8c0@home> From: "Michael Strand" To: Subject: HA Clustering Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 13:23:49 +0930 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Everyone, There was a recent discussion on the lack of HA software for FreeBSD, I have stumbled across a project called SG Cluster that seems to be the real thing. It's a single floppy OS built with the PicoBSD kit. http://turtle.ee.ncku.edu.tw/sgcluster/ I haven't used it, but thought it may be of interest. 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To take yourself off my mailing list To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 1 10:54:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hawk-systems.com (hawk-systems.com [161.58.152.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 854D537B41A for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 10:54:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from cr159591a (CPE00A00CC12AF5.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com [24.102.18.54]) by hawk-systems.com (8.11.6) id fB1Is5A32442 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 11:54:05 -0700 (MST) From: dave@hawk-systems.com (Dave) To: Subject: RE: HA Clustering Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 13:56:56 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 In-Reply-To: <080701c17a1b$cc64fa80$1901a8c0@home> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone have first hand experience with this? Dave >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Michael Strand >Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 10:54 PM >To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: HA Clustering > > >Hi Everyone, > >There was a recent discussion on the lack of HA software for FreeBSD, I have >stumbled across a project called SG Cluster that seems to be the real thing. >It's a single floppy OS built with the PicoBSD kit. >http://turtle.ee.ncku.edu.tw/sgcluster/ > >I haven't used it, but thought it may be of interest. > >Michael To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat Dec 1 13:43: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from cagelink.com (dsl94151.dyndsl.nettally.com [199.44.94.151]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89D4B37B41B for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 13:42:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by cagelink.com (Postfix, from userid 2901) id C624B158; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 16:42:41 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by cagelink.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2E10144 for ; Sat, 1 Dec 2001 16:42:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2001 16:42:41 -0500 (EST) From: Tyler To: Subject: Novell Network Message-ID: <20011201164034.N39892-100000@cagelink.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Later this month i'll be setting up a FreeBSD server in a office to host there DSL connections and share it with 5 other workstations. Right now they have those 5 workstations plus a Novell Server. I really don't know much about Novell Servers so what im asking is adding this FreeBSD server for the DSL connection, will it interfere with there use of the Novell Server? If it will any ideas will be appreciated but I can't host the DSL connection on the Novell Server. Tyler - Co-Owner/Administrator CageLink Internet Services http://www.cagelink.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message