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In message <3AEB24F8.DA4167F2@mayn.de> Tobias Reifenberger writes:
: I want to use two PCMCIA network cards at the same time (Both are using
: the 'ed' driver). But if I insert the second card, pccardd complains
: about 'No free configuration for card'.

You need two config lines, or arrange for "ed1" to be one card and
"ed2" to be another.  This is a weakness in the current OLDCARD
system and will be fixed in newcard.

Warner
 

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this is 4.3-STABLE
well, after the weekend cvsup, the pccard jams again.

this is what i get now:
pcic0: <VLSI 82C146> at port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 irq 5 on isa0
pcic0: Polling mode <-------

and stuck.

on a Dell Latitude CPi it's ok:
pcic0: <VLSI 82C146> at port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 irq 5 on isa0
pcic0: management irq 5 <-------

any ideas?

	danny



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In message <E14tt0l-0007Iy-00@sexta.cs.huji.ac.il> Danny Braniss writes:
: this is 4.3-STABLE
: well, after the weekend cvsup, the pccard jams again.
: 
: this is what i get now:
: pcic0: <VLSI 82C146> at port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 irq 5 on isa0
: pcic0: Polling mode <-------

We do better error checking of the irqs now than we did before.  Maybe
it is really in use?

Warner

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Hi

I finally got the cards working. Thanks to erich@ucsd.edu, Greg Smith
and Warner Losh.

The solution was to change the lines 'config auto "ed" ....' to 'config
auto "edX" ...' with X in [0;n]. Below is the customized pccardd
configuration I'm using. Everyone with a similar problem may use this as
an inspiration.

This works with -current (2001.03.01), but should also with -stable.


[/etc/pccard.conf]
# Generally available IO ports
io      0x240-0x360
# Generally available IRQs (Built-in sound-card owners remove 5)
# Use "dmesg | grep irq" to see which are used.
irq     5 9 10
# Available memory slots
memory 0xd4000 96k

# D-Link DE-650 and DE-660
card "D-Link" "/DE-6[56]0/"
config  auto "ed0" ? 0x10
insert  /etc/pccard_ether $device start
remove  /etc/pccard_ether $device stop

# D-Link DFE-650 Fast Ethernet Card
card "D-Link" "DFE-650"
config  auto "ed1" ? 0x80010
insert  /etc/pccard_ether $device start
remove  /etc/pccard_ether $device stop

bye
-- 
Tobias Reifenberger -- treif@mayn.de -- DG1NGT
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In message <200104291748.f3THmWR32344@harmony.village.org>you write:
}In message <E14ttGM-0007JX-00@sexta.cs.huji.ac.il> Danny Braniss writes:
}: is there a command to find the used irqs (i think there is but can't remembe
}r 
}: :-)
}
}dmesg | grep irq

yes, but dmesg is now very populated with several boots, so it's 
difficult to see. i guess i should powercycle next time.

}
}However, it will fail to report used IRQs for devices that you don't
}actually have in the system.
}
}It could also be a bug in the stuff I merged as to why it hangs in
}polling mode.

in my case, (way back to 4.2 :-), it always hanged in polling mode.

is there another way to change the irq than recompiling the kernel?
(i tried irq ?, no irq, but failed).

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Danny Braniss <danny@cs.huji.ac.il> probably said:
> in my case, (way back to 4.2 :-), it always hanged in polling mode.
> 
> is there another way to change the irq than recompiling the kernel?
> (i tried irq ?, no irq, but failed).

I tend to use;

pir@disapp# more /boot/loader.conf 
machdep.pccard.pcic_irq="10"

since it's persistant and works even if I accidentally use a GENERIC
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P.

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In message <20010429145707.O4430@pir.net>you write:
}Danny Braniss <danny@cs.huji.ac.il> probably said:
}> in my case, (way back to 4.2 :-), it always hanged in polling mode.
}> 
}> is there another way to change the irq than recompiling the kernel?
}> (i tried irq ?, no irq, but failed).
}
}I tend to use;
}
}pir@disapp# more /boot/loader.conf 
}machdep.pccard.pcic_irq="10"

thanks!, that's what i was looking for.

	danny



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From owner-freebsd-mobile  Sun Apr 29 12:59:13 2001
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I posted some weeks back about time-out problems with SCSI on
my Dell Inspiron 4000 with an Adaptec 1460 pc card ("Slim Scsi").

Just for kicks, I tried my HP scanner and an external ZIP. Both
worked fine. So, I tried changing out the hard drive (it is in
an external box). Using the same box, I found that a full height
2.2gb Seagate and a half height 1gb Seagate did not work. A 
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The 2.2gb Seagate worked fine with my 2940 controller in my desktop
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In message <Pine.BSF.4.21.0104291550540.45082-100000@shazam.int> Jim Durham writes:
: Are there tweeks in the FreeBSD driver. Has anyone seen this behavior?

I've seen odd behavior in the aic driver since 2.2.  For "light" use
it works great.  For "heavy" use all manner of bad things happen.
Someone should really rewrite this driver from the ground up, but no
one has had the time and energy to do so since it mostly kinda works
now.

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On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Danny Braniss wrote:

:this is 4.3-STABLE
:well, after the weekend cvsup, the pccard jams again.
:
:this is what i get now:
:pcic0: <VLSI 82C146> at port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 irq 5 on isa0
:pcic0: Polling mode <-------
:
:and stuck.
:
:on a Dell Latitude CPi it's ok:
:pcic0: <VLSI 82C146> at port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 irq 5 on isa0
:pcic0: management irq 5 <-------
:
:any ideas?

Yes.

Jamie Bowden

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On Fri, 27 Apr 2001, David Wolfskill wrote:

> >Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2001 14:30:14 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: Michael DuFresne <vdue@zen.tc>
>
> >Anyone have a pointer to info regarding the state of wireless for 4.3?
>
> Well, I've been using [Cisco/]Aironet cards for a while on a variety of
> laptops.  It's my current understanding that the an(4) driver in -STABLE
> is OK for some firmware levels on the cards, but sufficiently recent
> firmware changed the sizes of some structs, and the driver that is
> presently in -STABLE doesn't deal with that very well.

I have looked at the Cisco cards, but dang, they are expensive. From
what I can tell, a Cisco card+ap is $700. I was hoping to keep the
costs down to a reasonable level without sacrificing too much
functionality/security.

> I've been running with various patches (from Doug Ambrisko; see
> http://www.ambrisko.com/doug/) that handle the newer firmware (which
> supports Cisco's LEAP, for example) better.  He's also done some things
> so I can run the Linux version of Cisco's "acu" and "cem" utilities, as
> well as some command-line utilities to load new firmware and display the
> "RIDs" on the card.

Stupid question time: If I apply patches from an external source (ie
other than from cvsup..), how is cvsup affected?

> A fair amount of this will be what works with whatever you want to
> communicate with.  :-}  And although it would appear that you're not in
> the local area, the archives of the BAWUG (Bay Area Wireless User Group;
> http://lists.bawug.org/pipermail/wireless/) will likely be of interest &
> use.

I'm in Walnut Creek.

All that I really need to get working is a wireless link to my home
network. I have a few machines working now with various OSes. Work has
stated that I can do some work from home provided I can get a VLAN
working to the Cisco routers at work. So, if I'm going to telecommute,
I might as well do it from the lanai.

For the work part, the laptop will use that Redmond stuff, but I want
to make sure I can also use FreeBSD whenever I'm not using the laptop
for 'work'.

> FWIW, my personal laptop is similar to a Dell Inspiron 5000e (made by
> Compal), and I've been tracking 4-STABLE and 5-CURRENT on it since early
> March... daily....  Stuff about it is at
> http://www.catwhisker.org/~david/FreeBSD/laptop.html

Cool. Thanks,

Mike

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>Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 09:36:19 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Michael DuFresne <vdue@zen.tc>

>I have looked at the Cisco cards, but dang, they are expensive. From
>what I can tell, a Cisco card+ap is $700. I was hoping to keep the
>costs down to a reasonable level without sacrificing too much
>functionality/security.

Just because you're using a Cisco PCMCIA card does *not* mean that you
necessarily need to use a Cisco AP -- or *any* AP, for that matter.  The
whole point of the "Wi-Fi" branding is so folks can have some degree of
assurance that the products will interoperate.  (The crack about "any
AP" refers to the possiblity of using a pair of cards, one in an ISA (or
PCI?) adapter, in ad-hoc mode.)

(At home, I use an Apple AirPort AP with the Cisco/Aironet cards.)

>Stupid question time: If I apply patches from an external source (ie
>other than from cvsup..), how is cvsup affected?

Well, that depends.  :-}  (You probably could reasonably have expected
that "answer".)

What I do is use CVSup to maintain a local CVS repository.  And by doing
that, I can hack my own /usr/src tree as much as I want, and as long as
I have a running system, I can blow stuff away and get it back to
"normal" pretty easily.

Before doing things this way, I had tried just using CVSup to update my
sources, and that proved to be rather annoying.  Maybe there's some
"trick" to it, but having my own mirrored FreeBSD repository appears to
be a far easier approach.

>I'm in Walnut Creek.

Eh; that's what I get for trying to ascribe geography to TLDs.  I should
know better by now; sorry.  :-}  There's a BAWUG meeting Thursday of
this week.  (The meeting is in Redwood City this time; I'd plan to
attend, but I have a prior committment.)

>All that I really need to get working is a wireless link to my home
>network. I have a few machines working now with various OSes. Work has
>stated that I can do some work from home provided I can get a VLAN
>working to the Cisco routers at work. So, if I'm going to telecommute,
>I might as well do it from the lanai.

Quite so.

>For the work part, the laptop will use that Redmond stuff, but I want
>to make sure I can also use FreeBSD whenever I'm not using the laptop
>for 'work'.

:-}

For my home stuff, I'm using WEP (though it's weak, I fancy it may
provide some deterrent), as well as restricting the AP to talking only
with cards that use MAC addresses I list for it (though the MAC address
can be changed at will, again, I fancy it is some deterrent), and I use
SSH for any communication from the laptop to any machines where I get
shell prompts.

Hope this is of some use,
david
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Trenton Schulz <twschulz@gloria.cord.edu> writes:

> On Sun, 15 Apr 2001, Daniel O'Connor wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> > I recently got a i8000 for work and so far I am fairly pleased with the success
> > I am having. Currently the internal modem and ethernet work, USB works and X is
> > running.
> 
> Just wondering?  But does your Inspiron 8000 use the ATI Mobility and have
> a builtin DVD drive?  I had a couple problems that I can't seem to figure
> out, and haven't annoyed me enough to do something about it...
> 
> With X, sometimes, when I'm leaving the graphics mode(switching consoles or
> ending my X session) the screen does a fade to a nice bright white and
> locks up the machine, causing me to swear and hard reboot the notebook.
> This is with XFree86 4.0.2 on up (I couldn't get a configuration to work
> with XFree86-3).  I'm wondering if it's my hardware or XFree86-4 not as
> ready for primetime status.

I have noticed this fade to white thing happens particularly if you
are using the text consoles and change font size with Fn+F7 on one
console and switch to another.

> My DVD drive isn't detected unless I wait for about a minute to boot the
> kernel (by setting the autoboot to 60).  If I don't wait that long then I
> get "ad0 identity retires exceeded" or something along those lines (don't
> have the dmesg handy :(

YES!  I've been getting this but I hadn't found a way to fix it - I've
been DVD-less for weeks.  I'll try this waiting thing out, thanks!
I've spoken to Soren Schmidt briefly, he believes the Dell ATA
controller isn't following spec...

> > Also, I can't suspend/resume which I am told is because of a BIOS bug which
> > sucks but there's not much to be done about that :)
> > (I can induce a suspend/resume OK but when the laptop comes back the fxp card
> > spits millions of 'SCB timeout' and 'DMA timeout', and it seems the ata
> > controller wedges, or doesn't reinit the controller).

APM is the only thing not working for me now.  I get 'resetting ATA
devices' upon waking up or something similar and the machine freezes.
I'm not going to freeze it now to get the proper messages... :)

So for me, installing FreeBSD involved:

Polling mode didn't work for the PCIC - gave it IRQ 10, fixed.
Sound card wasn't detected - add snd_maestro3_load="YES" to
/boot/loader.conf, fixed.
DVD drive not identified - wait a minute at boot, (hopefully) fixed.

Everything else, including XFree86 4.03 @ 1400x1050 works beautifully.
-- 
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Subject: 802.11b security (was: Dell Inspiron 2500 and what 802.11b)
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There was an interesting story on this the other on, of all places,
Slashdot.

URL is:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=01/04/27/1847237&mode=thread

Basically, these guys have been driving around sniffing for wireless LAN
traffick, and find a lot of unsecured major companies.

Most of the useful responses agreed that, at present, 802.11b should be
viewed as insecure, and treated as such on your network.  That is, you
should locate your wireless network outside your firewall, and treat it as
you would the internet.  Therefore, all traffick should assume insecure
channels and ssh (whatever) across the firewall.

FWIW!  (I'm still chained by UTP here.)
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[SNIP]

For my home stuff, I'm using WEP (though it's weak, I fancy it may
provide some deterrent), as well as restricting the AP to talking only
with cards that use MAC addresses I list for it (though the MAC address
can be changed at will, again, I fancy it is some deterrent), and I use
SSH for any communication from the laptop to any machines where I get
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On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, David Wolfskill wrote:

> Just because you're using a Cisco PCMCIA card does *not* mean that you
> necessarily need to use a Cisco AP -- or *any* AP, for that matter.  The
> whole point of the "Wi-Fi" branding is so folks can have some degree of
> assurance that the products will interoperate.  (The crack about "any
> AP" refers to the possiblity of using a pair of cards, one in an ISA (or
> PCI?) adapter, in ad-hoc mode.)

I looked at the possibilty of using one of my servers as the AP for
the laptop, but the info on setting this up is a bit sketchy regarding
some of the aspects. PCI v ISA, and which cards are supported in this
configuration. From the BAWUG page, I did find the info on how to
setup the FreeBSD base station, but it references the ISA setup.

My server doesn't have any ISA slots. 8-) (Abit VP6 w/4.3-STABLE)

> (At home, I use an Apple AirPort AP with the Cisco/Aironet cards.)

I was considering the Linksys WAP11, but I recall reading that the
configure options aren't password protected. This seems like a pretty
serious flaw to me. Too bad, as the WAP11 was pretty cheap.

> Well, that depends.  :-}  (You probably could reasonably have expected
> that "answer".)

Hehe. That answer _always_ applies to *nix.

> What I do is use CVSup to maintain a local CVS repository.  And by doing
> that, I can hack my own /usr/src tree as much as I want, and as long as
> I have a running system, I can blow stuff away and get it back to
> "normal" pretty easily.
>
> Before doing things this way, I had tried just using CVSup to update my
> sources, and that proved to be rather annoying.  Maybe there's some
> "trick" to it, but having my own mirrored FreeBSD repository appears to
> be a far easier approach.

Not being a developer, much less having the ability to do anything but
the most basic editing of source code (and I do mean basic....), I
usually pretty careful about messing about with my sources. Usually,
cvsup is run from cron on a regular basis. My question was whether or
not adding in the patches would confuse cvsup, or if cvsup would just
clobber the original files.

> >I'm in Walnut Creek.
>
> Eh; that's what I get for trying to ascribe geography to TLDs.  I should
> know better by now; sorry.  :-}  There's a BAWUG meeting Thursday of
> this week.  (The meeting is in Redwood City this time; I'd plan to
> attend, but I have a prior committment.)

What can I say; register.com, it was cheap...

> For my home stuff, I'm using WEP (though it's weak, I fancy it may
> provide some deterrent), as well as restricting the AP to talking only
> with cards that use MAC addresses I list for it (though the MAC address
> can be changed at will, again, I fancy it is some deterrent), and I use
> SSH for any communication from the laptop to any machines where I get
> shell prompts.
>
> Hope this is of some use,
> david

As long as the standards are, well, standard, then any AP should work
with any card? I'm assuming, then, that the cisco cards and AP provide
a bit of additional functionality?

Then again, if its all insecure, perhaps the additional functionality
isn't worth the cost...

Mike

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Here's an article with a little technical info, and a BSD Perl script for
wireless sniffing.  I guess you need an 802.11 NIC that can be forced into
promisc.  Don't know which ones those are.

http://www.free2air.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2001/4/13/1419/40470

It'd be interesting to do some security testing on your own wireless
networks, and see what's really going on.  I'd be most concerned in
high-density areas like SF, SJ, or apartments/condos.

Unlike some posters on Slashdot, I'd be pissed if someone were leeching my
broadband access, not to mention the HUGE liability issue should someone
hack or warez or Pr0n out via my IP!  ("You see, officer, there's this WEP
insecurity concerning 802.11b, and when MACs are exposed in the
clear...wait!...no, really!...hey, why are you boxing all my stuff up with
that red EVIDENCE tape??...Oww, do you have to put these on so tight?")

Geoff
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On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 10:54:13AM -0700, Geoffrey T. Cheshire wrote:
> Here's an article with a little technical info, and a BSD Perl script for
> wireless sniffing.  I guess you need an 802.11 NIC that can be forced into
> promisc.  Don't know which ones those are.
>=20
> http://www.free2air.org/?op=3Ddisplaystory;sid=3D2001/4/13/1419/40470

The script requires any card supported by the wi driver.  It does not
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>Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:54:18 -0700 (PDT)
>From: Michael DuFresne <vdue@zen.tc>

>I looked at the possibilty of using one of my servers as the AP for
>the laptop, but the info on setting this up is a bit sketchy regarding
>some of the aspects. PCI v ISA, and which cards are supported in this
>configuration. From the BAWUG page, I did find the info on how to
>setup the FreeBSD base station, but it references the ISA setup.

>My server doesn't have any ISA slots. 8-) (Abit VP6 w/4.3-STABLE)

I've not done this sort of thing myself, so I won't add to any confusion
by commenting further on it, except to note that some folks do use such
setups.

>I was considering the Linksys WAP11, but I recall reading that the
>configure options aren't password protected. This seems like a pretty
>serious flaw to me. Too bad, as the WAP11 was pretty cheap.

Yes, well....  I would observe that that would appear to have been
precisely the problem -- it was indeed "cheap" (vs., e.g.,
"inexpensive").

>> Well, that depends.  :-}  (You probably could reasonably have expected
>> that "answer".)

>Hehe. That answer _always_ applies to *nix.

As well as many other fields....  :-}

>Not being a developer, much less having the ability to do anything but
>the most basic editing of source code (and I do mean basic....), I
>usually pretty careful about messing about with my sources. Usually,
>cvsup is run from cron on a regular basis. My question was whether or
>not adding in the patches would confuse cvsup, or if cvsup would just
>clobber the original files.

CVSup, in my experience, will clobber the original files quite well.

If you pursue this, you may want to maintain a location where you keep
your patches.  :-}

>As long as the standards are, well, standard, then any AP should work
>with any card?

As long as they are permitted (MAC address restrictions; SSIDs; WEP keys;
...) and able (distance; disruptors (possibly microwave ovens, for
example); ...), yes, that is my understanding.

>I'm assuming, then, that the cisco cards and AP provide
>a bit of additional functionality?

Well, the Cisco/Aironet APs are what we happen to use at work.

And some vendors, including Cisco, appear to be aware of the need for
improvement, and are working on providing that.

>Then again, if its all insecure, perhaps the additional functionality
>isn't worth the cost...

In general, it is good to consider the cost of just about any security
steps one might take -- and don't restrict the scope to merely monetary
considerations.  :-}  You are likely to find that there are some things
you can do that improve the situation a fair amount, but cost little.
There's a reason the expression "point of diminishing returns" has
become a cliche....  :-)

Cheers,
david
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David Wolfskill <david@catwhisker.org> wrote:

> >I looked at the possibilty of using one of my servers as the AP for
> >the laptop, but the info on setting this up is a bit sketchy regarding
> >some of the aspects. PCI v ISA, and which cards are supported in this
> >configuration. From the BAWUG page, I did find the info on how to
> >setup the FreeBSD base station, but it references the ISA setup.
> 
> >My server doesn't have any ISA slots. 8-) (Abit VP6 w/4.3-STABLE)
> 
> I've not done this sort of thing myself, so I won't add to any confusion
> by commenting further on it, except to note that some folks do use such
> setups.

     Unless Warner's MFC'd something from -current, PCI PCMCIA adapters
(required for creating an ad-hoc access point) aren't supported in
-stable.

[ For that matter, I'm unaware that PCI PCMCIA adapters are working in
  -current, although they may be (I haven't been following -current very
  closely).  Also, there are (were???) issues regarding 802.11b
  bridging: you can't do it with -stable, and have to use routing/NAT.
  Hopefully, someone will correct me.  ]

     For now, an ISA slot is *required* if you want to create your own
ad-hoc access point.  If you don't have one, you can't do it (with
FreeBSD, anyway).

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Michael DuFresne <vdue@zen.tc> wrote:

> I was considering the Linksys WAP11, but I recall reading that the
> configure options aren't password protected. This seems like a pretty
> serious flaw to me. Too bad, as the WAP11 was pretty cheap.

     There are other 802.11b access points at or near the same price
point (in the US, at least).

     Going off on a slight tangent: what kind of ranges are people
seeing with "consumer quality" 802.11b?  When I had a FreeBSD ad-hoc
setup using Lucent Orinoco (WaveLan) Gold cards, I was seeing a max
distance of around 20-30 feet (direct distance, through walls/floors,
2-story home environment, no external antennas).  I recently got rid of
my FreeBSD gateway and bought a cheap access point (Buffalo), and am
seeing similar max distances.  While wireless is great, a max distance
of 20-30 feet isn't much (keep in mind that a house is an obstacle-rich
environment).

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Works on A20p with FreeBSD-4.3 stable. Had to set PCI IRQs to their
default settings (all on IRQ 11).

Thanks!
Florent.

On Wed, 25 Apr 2001, Anders Andersson wrote:

> On Tis, Apr 24, 2001 at 10:10:44pm -0700, gollum wrote:
> > The follow fix solved the sound issue on my T21 (CS461x) laptop running
> > 4.3 FreeBSD. The issue was two function parameters that were backwards
> > in the pci_write_config call in the csa_attach function. This fix sould
> > solve the sound issue for the csa driver under 4.2 also, however, I have
> > yet to test it. NOTE: This fix has been added to the HEAD CVS tree, but
> > has yet to be added to RELENG_4.
> >
> > The following diff shows the fix for the csa.c file under
> > /usr/src/sys/dev/sound/pci:
> >
> > *** csa.c       Tue Apr 24 21:51:45 2001
> > --- csa.c.broken        Tue Apr 24 20:47:38 2001
> > ***************
> > *** 131,137 ****
> >         stcmd = pci_read_config(dev, PCIR_COMMAND, 4);
> >         if ((stcmd & PCIM_CMD_MEMEN) == 0 || (stcmd & PCIM_CMD_BUSMASTEREN) == 0) {
> >                 stcmd |= (PCIM_CMD_MEMEN | PCIM_CMD_BUSMASTEREN);
> > !               pci_write_config(dev, PCIR_COMMAND, stcmd, 4);
> >         }
> >
> >         /* Allocate the resources. */
> > --- 131,137 ----
> >         stcmd = pci_read_config(dev, PCIR_COMMAND, 4);
> >         if ((stcmd & PCIM_CMD_MEMEN) == 0 || (stcmd & PCIM_CMD_BUSMASTEREN) == 0) {
> >                 stcmd |= (PCIM_CMD_MEMEN | PCIM_CMD_BUSMASTEREN);
> > !               pci_write_config(dev, PCIR_COMMAND, 4, stcmd);
> >         }
> >
> >         /* Allocate the resources. */
> >
> >
> >
> > <gollum>
>
> This patch makes sound work on my IBM ThinkPad A20p
>
> csa0: <Crystal Semiconductor CS4614/4622/4624 Audio accelerator/4280
> Audio controller> mem 0xf0000000-0xf00fffff,0xf0121000-0xf0121fff irq 11
> at device 5.0 on pci0
> pcm0: <CS461x PCM Audio> on csa0
>
>

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Hola,

i've recently come in to the posession of a Toshiba Satellite Pro
4600. after some work, i've installed FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE on a partition
of the disk.

so far, there've been a few problems.

First, the built in fxp ethernet card times out. it seems to be related
with the sharing of IRQs between many of the onboard PCI devices. The real
trick is that it seems i can't move any of these devices around at all.

currently, i'm running a slightly customised version of the GENERIC kernel
(i removed the USB devices, and stopped running the usbd to clear up some
clutter in the output from dmesg).

any ideas?

according to win2k, and freebsds dmesg, most devices on this machine are
set to use irq 11. i've not found an easy way to move irqs (win2k does let
you do this, but it seems that the laptops BIOS doesn't want to listen).

any thoughts or experiences with Toshiba laptops and making them work with
FreeBSD 4 would be appreciated.

thanks much,

-- johan


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As I recall, Jamie Bowden wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Danny Braniss wrote:
>:on a Dell Latitude CPi it's ok:
>:pcic0: <VLSI 82C146> at port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 irq 5 on isa0
>:pcic0: management irq 5 <-------
>:
>:any ideas?
> 
> Yes.

An answer not unlike you get from Microsoft Tech Support.  Most
probably correct, but of absolutely no use.

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On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Chad R. Larson wrote:

:As I recall, Jamie Bowden wrote:
:> On Sun, 29 Apr 2001, Danny Braniss wrote:
:>:on a Dell Latitude CPi it's ok:
:>:pcic0: <VLSI 82C146> at port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 irq 5 on isa0
:>:pcic0: management irq 5 <-------
:>:
:>:any ideas?
:> 
:> Yes.
:
:An answer not unlike you get from Microsoft Tech Support.  Most
:probably correct, but of absolutely no use.

If you or the original poster bothered to check the archives, you would
see the answer.  I personally have given it several times in recent
memory, as have others.

Jamie Bowden

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I'm no expert at this, but I have a Toshiba 4300 Satelite Pro although using
a LinkSys NIC...

I had similar problems, in which i edited /etc/defaults/pccard.conf
(actually, copied it from there to /etc/pccard.conf then modified it). What
I had to do was comment out the line that has about three or four IRQ's to
choose from for PCMCIA devices (few lines down) and just add the same line
but with just 'IRQ 10' in my case. I might be a little off on the syntax,
cause I'm just recalling this from memory... Don't have my laptop here now..
But if you do need more info, lemme know and I'll get it from the laptop for
you.

I also still get timeouts, and sometimes have to reboot quite a few times...
So now, I've been just booting up with the NIC out, then ones it's fully up
then insert it and detects perfect with no timeouts.

Hope this helps and I hope I made sense, cause I had one too many beers
tonight.. hehe ;)

Best Regards!

----- Original Message -----
From: F. Johan Beisser <johan.beisser@caustic.org>
To: <mobile@freebsd.org>
Sent: Monday, April 30, 2001 2:00 PM
Subject: Toshiba Satellite Pro 4600


>
> Hola,
>
> i've recently come in to the posession of a Toshiba Satellite Pro
> 4600. after some work, i've installed FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE on a partition
> of the disk.
>
> so far, there've been a few problems.
>
> First, the built in fxp ethernet card times out. it seems to be related
> with the sharing of IRQs between many of the onboard PCI devices. The real
> trick is that it seems i can't move any of these devices around at all.
>
> currently, i'm running a slightly customised version of the GENERIC kernel
> (i removed the USB devices, and stopped running the usbd to clear up some
> clutter in the output from dmesg).
>
> any ideas?
>
> according to win2k, and freebsds dmesg, most devices on this machine are
> set to use irq 11. i've not found an easy way to move irqs (win2k does let
> you do this, but it seems that the laptops BIOS doesn't want to listen).
>
> any thoughts or experiences with Toshiba laptops and making them work with
> FreeBSD 4 would be appreciated.
>
> thanks much,
>
> -- johan
>
>
> +------/ f. johan beisser /-----------------------------------+
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On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Richard C. wrote:

> I'm no expert at this, but I have a Toshiba 4300 Satelite Pro although using
> a LinkSys NIC...

sadly, the problem is with the internal NIC. i'll mail in boot messages
and such later on today.

The Satellite Pro 4600 pretty much has any toy you want internal, attached
to the motherboard (modem, NIC, etc). So far, it's been a pain to get more
than just the keyboard and such working well with FreeBSD.

I'm not going into the issues i've had with XFree86 4, and the trident
card. That, i think is the least of my problems.

Based on prior experience, i pretty much believe that the problem is with
IRQ sharing.

Anyhow, a post of the dmesg output will be posted later on today.


+------/ f. johan beisser /-----------------------------------+
 Web: http://caustic.org/~jan email: johan.beisser@caustic.org
   "knowledge is power, power corrupts. study hard, be evil"


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As i said, the boot info for this laptop would be here soon.

This is from boot -v, with a mostly GENERIC kernel.

if there is any other helpful information that you all could use, let me
know.


+------/ f. johan beisser /-----------------------------------+
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 at Apr 30, 2001 11:35:56 am"
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Darryl Okahata writes:
| David Wolfskill <david@catwhisker.org> wrote:
| 
| > >I looked at the possibilty of using one of my servers as the AP for
| > >the laptop, but the info on setting this up is a bit sketchy regarding
| > >some of the aspects. PCI v ISA, and which cards are supported in this
| > >configuration. From the BAWUG page, I did find the info on how to
| > >setup the FreeBSD base station, but it references the ISA setup.
| > 
| > >My server doesn't have any ISA slots. 8-) (Abit VP6 w/4.3-STABLE)
| > 
| > I've not done this sort of thing myself, so I won't add to any confusion
| > by commenting further on it, except to note that some folks do use such
| > setups.
| 
|      Unless Warner's MFC'd something from -current, PCI PCMCIA adapters
| (required for creating an ad-hoc access point) aren't supported in
| -stable.
| 
| [ For that matter, I'm unaware that PCI PCMCIA adapters are working in
|   -current, although they may be (I haven't been following -current very
|   closely).  Also, there are (were???) issues regarding 802.11b
|   bridging: you can't do it with -stable, and have to use routing/NAT.
|   Hopefully, someone will correct me.  ]
| 
|      For now, an ISA slot is *required* if you want to create your own
| ad-hoc access point.  If you don't have one, you can't do it (with
| FreeBSD, anyway).

The PCI version of the Cisco Aironet just works ... 

	an0: <Aironet PCI4800> port 0xe800-0xe83f,0xe400-0xe47f mem 0xe4000000-0xe400007f irq 10 at device 9.0 on pci0
	an0: Ethernet address: 00:40:96:35:3f:71

since 4.1 or there abouts.  I think Alfred has the Addtron PCI wireless
card working with "wi".  Don't know the status since I don't use it but
is relatively new code.

Doug A.

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Subject: Re: 802.11b access points and ranges [ Was: Dell Inspiron 2500 and
 what 802.11b ]
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hey.

> (cc-ing Terry, who wrote a review of the wap11 at
> http://www.personaltelco.net/index.cgi/AccessPointReviews that brings
> up this point, and adam shand who is also on that page :))

as the web master of personaltelco please feel free to add information to
the site if you know something we don't, in fact i'd appreciate it a lot
if you did!.

it's a wiki site which means anyone can edit by clicking the edit button
at the bottom (yes, we have backups/diffs and can revert to old versions
in case of vandalism :-).

actually never mind ... i see that you already have.  thanks! :)

> i have *not* been able to configure it through the wireless side.

terry do you still have your linksys?  can you confirm this?

> linksys seems to have an interesting business model -- destroy every
> market they enter by commoditizing it. works fine as long as they can
> keep bringing out new products. i'd predict their next move will be a
> gigabit ethernet card for <$200.

<laugh> maybe they'll enter the san market soon :)

adam.


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I'm trying to get the tw0 device to work on an old Thinkpad 755c
system.  I built a kernel with the device defined.  It just can't seem 
to find the parallel port.  I know it's at irq 7 and booting the
GENERIC kernel with "-v" reports the location of ppc0 at 0x3bc instead 
of the usual 0x378 but it doesn't look as if it's probing correctly;
boot output below.

I know my cable and X10 controller box work correctly because I've
used it with FreeBSD on a different laptop.

Is there something special about the parallel port on the Thinkpad
755c?  Is there some place I can find hardware information like this?

Any help would be greatly appreciated!

ppc0: using extended I/O port range
PC873xx probe at 0x26e got unknown ID 0x4b
ppc0: SPP
ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x278-0x27f irq 7 drq 0 on isa0
ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppbus0: IEEE1284 device found /PS2/EPP/NIBBLE_ID/PS2_ID/Extensibility Link
Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0:
ppbus0: <unknown unknown>
isa_compat: didn't get ports for tw
isa_compat: didn't get drq for tw
tw0 failed to probe at port 0x278 irq 7 drq 0 on isa0

Has anyone seen this before?  Maybe the tw driver doesn't work with
4.3?

/raj

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From owner-freebsd-mobile  Tue May  1 13:44:48 2001
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On Tue, May 01, 2001 at 12:28:17PM -0700, Adam Shand wrote:
> > linksys seems to have an interesting business model -- destroy every
> > market they enter by commoditizing it. works fine as long as they can
> > keep bringing out new products. i'd predict their next move will be a
> > gigabit ethernet card for <$200.
>=20
> <laugh> maybe they'll enter the san market soon :)

Gigabit under $200 is a reality.  Got to CDW and you'll find a 3Com
10/100/1000T card for $180.  The really scary thing is the Addtron card
for $120.  That's actually a short card so it probably won't have great
perfomance, but that's approaching a pricepoint where it could become
a manditory feature checkbox on business systems especialy when you
consider that 3Com 10/100 nics regularly run around $60.  Of course the
cheapest switch is still $860 for a 4 port...

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On Tue, Apr 17, 2001 at 10:59:03AM +1000, Toby Hutton wrote:

> > My DVD drive isn't detected unless I wait for about a minute to boot the
> 
> YES!  I've been getting this but I hadn't found a way to fix it - I've
> been DVD-less for weeks.  I'll try this waiting thing out, thanks!

got my inspiron 8000 on friday, and it's running 4.3 since a few hrs later :-)
dvd works nice, if you wait the min. just be patient.. 
but would be nice, if that get's fixed.

> > > Also, I can't suspend/resume which I am told is because of a BIOS bug which
> > > sucks but there's not much to be done about that :)
> > > (I can induce a suspend/resume OK but when the laptop comes back the fxp card
> > > spits millions of 'SCB timeout' and 'DMA timeout', and it seems the ata
> > > controller wedges, or doesn't reinit the controller).
> 
> APM is the only thing not working for me now.  I get 'resetting ATA
> devices' upon waking up or something similar and the machine freezes.
> I'm not going to freeze it now to get the proper messages... :)

hmm. apm works for me. no problem at all. but i don't have the internal 
network/modem card. it's only the modem (lucent), and i put a 3com 574 in the 
pcmci slot.
but apm tells me, my battery will last for 5:50hr, if it's at 100%. about 
twice, as it really lasts.

> So for me, installing FreeBSD involved:
> Polling mode didn't work for the PCIC - gave it IRQ 10, fixed.

i put it on 9.

> Everything else, including XFree86 4.03 @ 1400x1050 works beautifully.

here too. really nice to work with it.

 etienne

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I imagine this is really basic stuff but as have many aspects of
Freebsd this task seems very confusing.

The laptop has FreeBSD and Redhat linux and a skeleton intstall of
win98, on it.  I want to wipe out the linux partition and add it to
the FreeBSD space.

There seems to be no handy tool that supplies me with usable
information about the disk.  At least not with out major studies .

Fdisk output is nearly useless.  It apparently doens't see the linux
partition at all.

disklabel and diskpart both seem to expect irreversable commands with
out showing me what they'll do.  Or where.

That brings us to /stand/sysinstall and the fdisk editor.

Evey piece of documentation on www.FreeBSD.org  advises use of
/stand/sysinstall for compatability mode partitions.  (There is still
a skeleton install of Win/98) 

Ok cool, but every one of them skates right over the firt big
stumbling block.

They tell you to `select a disk to work on'.  No mention of why two
are shown and I only have one.  Selecting either one shows me the
exact same picture but with a different name.

So how can I tell witch one to select?  Does it matter?  What are the
repercussions?

The rest of the instrutions look easy enough.





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Hi !

I'm trying to quit linux that I'm using for 3 years, but I need a fully
operational FreeBSD (4.2R now).

My 1/2 problem is with my PCMCIA: my network is working, but my modem
don't find sio4 when I plug.
It is detected, but when I put /dev/sio4 port in ppp.conf it don't
connect.
It's not error in the script because it connects with my external modem.
I tryed 'sh /dev/MAKEDEV sio4' but it gives error.

Here start the other half-problem :)
Then I tryed to comment out all ports in kernel, I thaught I must free
these ports for pccard, but it gives me a lot of errors when compiling.
I read the handbook and there are a lot of doubts about versions and how
to compile ...
I do for 4.2 release: 'cd /usr/src/ ; make buildkernel KERNEL=PARPA ;
make installkernel KERNEL=PARPA'

I searched faq and handbook, but nothing ...

Can somebody help, and send me a kernel configuration file from a laptop
to try find the differences ?
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#
# GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386
#
# For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on
# Kernel Configuration Files:
#
#    http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
#
# The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook
# if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the
# FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the
# latest information.
#
# An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the
# device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are
# in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT.
#
# $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.246.2.20 2000/10/31 23:16:07 n_hibma Exp $

machine		i386
#cpu		I386_CPU
#cpu		I486_CPU
cpu		I586_CPU
#cpu		I686_CPU
ident		PARPA
maxusers	6

#makeoptions	DEBUG=-g		#Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols

#options 	MATH_EMULATE		#Support for x87 emulation
options 	INET			#InterNETworking
#options 	INET6			#IPv6 communications protocols
options 	FFS			#Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options 	FFS_ROOT		#FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
options 	SOFTUPDATES		#Enable FFS soft updates support
#options 	MFS			#Memory Filesystem
#options 	MD_ROOT			#MD is a potential root device
#options 	NFS			#Network Filesystem
#options 	NFS_ROOT		#NFS usable as root device, NFS required
options 	MSDOSFS			#MSDOS Filesystem
options 	CD9660			#ISO 9660 Filesystem
options 	CD9660_ROOT		#CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required
options 	PROCFS			#Process filesystem
options 	COMPAT_43		#Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
#options 	SCSI_DELAY=15000	#Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
options 	UCONSOLE		#Allow users to grab the console
options 	USERCONFIG		#boot -c editor
options 	VISUAL_USERCONFIG	#visual boot -c editor
#options 	KTRACE			#ktrace(1) support
options 	SYSVSHM			#SYSV-style shared memory
options 	SYSVMSG			#SYSV-style message queues
options 	SYSVSEM			#SYSV-style semaphores
options 	P1003_1B		#Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
options 	_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
options		ICMP_BANDLIM		#Rate limit bad replies
options 	KBD_INSTALL_CDEV	# install a CDEV entry in /dev

# To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
#options 	SMP			# Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
#options 	APIC_IO			# Symmetric (APIC) I/O

device		isa
#device		eisa
device		pci
device          pccard
#device         cardbus

# Floppy drives
device		fdc0	at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
device		fd0	at fdc0 drive 0
#device		fd1	at fdc0 drive 1

# ATA and ATAPI devices
device		ata0	at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
device		ata1	at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
device		ata
device		atadisk			# ATA disk drives
device		atapicd			# ATAPI CDROM drives
device		atapifd			# ATAPI floppy drives
#device		atapist			# ATAPI tape drives
options 	ATA_STATIC_ID		#Static device numbering
options 	ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA	#Enable DMA on ATAPI devices

# SCSI Controllers
#device		ahb		# EISA AHA1742 family
#device		ahc		# AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
#device		amd		# AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T))
#device		isp		# Qlogic family
#device		ncr		# NCR/Symbios Logic
#device		sym		# NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
#options		SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40
				# Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when 
				# both sym and ncr are configured

#device		adv0	at isa?
#device		adw
#device		bt0	at isa?
#device		aha0	at isa?
#device		aic0	at isa?

#device		ncv		# NCR 53C500
#device		nsp		# Workbit Ninja SCSI-3
#device		stg		# TMC 18C30/18C50

# SCSI peripherals
#device		scbus		# SCSI bus (required)
#device		da		# Direct Access (disks)
#device		sa		# Sequential Access (tape etc)
#device		cd		# CD
#device		pass		# Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)

# RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem
#device		asr		# DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID
#device		dpt		# DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options!
#device		mly		# Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID

# RAID controllers
#device		ida		# Compaq Smart RAID
#device		amr		# AMI MegaRAID
#device		mlx		# Mylex DAC960 family
#device		twe		# 3ware Escalade

# atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
device		atkbdc0	at isa? port IO_KBD
device		atkbd0	at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1
device		psm0	at atkbdc? irq 12

device		vga0	at isa?

# splash screen/screen saver
pseudo-device	splash

# syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
device		sc0	at isa? flags 0x100

# Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver
device		vt0	at isa?
options 	XSERVER			# support for X server on a vt console
options 	FAT_CURSOR		# start with block cursor
# If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines
#options 	PCVT_SCANSET=2		# IBM keyboards are non-std

# Floating point support - do not disable.
device		npx0	at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13

# Power management support (see LINT for more options)
device		apm0    at nexus? flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management
options         POWERFAIL_NMI   # make it beep instead of panicing

# PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
device		card
device		pcic0	at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000
device		pcic1	at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable

# You may need to reset all pccards after resuming
options         PCIC_RESUME_RESET       # reset after resume

# Serial (COM) ports
device		sio0	at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
#device          sio1    at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
#device          sio2    at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5
#device          sio3    at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9

# Parallel port
device		ppc0	at isa? irq 7
device		ppbus		# Parallel port bus (required)
device		lpt		# Printer
#device		plip		# TCP/IP over parallel
device		ppi		# Parallel port interface device
#device		vpo		# Requires scbus and da


# PCI Ethernet NICs.
#device		de		# DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
#device		fxp		# Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
#device		tx		# SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'')
#device		vx		# 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')
#device		wx		# Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'')

# PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code.
# NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs!
device		miibus		# MII bus support
#device		dc		# DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
#device		pcn		# AMD Am79C79x PCI 10/100 NICs
#device		rl		# RealTek 8129/8139
#device		sf		# Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')
#device		sis		# Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016
#device		ste		# Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)
#device		tl		# Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
#device		vr		# VIA Rhine, Rhine II
#device		wb		# Winbond W89C840F
#device		xl		# 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')

# ISA Ethernet NICs.
#device		ed0	at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
#device		ex
#device		ep
#device		fe0	at isa? port 0x300
# WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really
# exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attatement needed
# and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard code.
#device		wi
# Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration below will
# work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA PnP
# mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA
# card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must specify
# those paremeters here.
#device		an
# Xircom Ethernet
#device		xe
# The probe order of these is presently determined by i386/isa/isa_compat.c.
#device		ie0	at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000
#device		le0	at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000
#device		lnc0	at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0
#device		cs0	at isa? port 0x300
#device		sn0	at isa? port 0x300 irq 10

# Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated.
pseudo-device	loop		# Network loopback
pseudo-device	ether		# Ethernet support
#pseudo-device	sl	1	# Kernel SLIP
pseudo-device	ppp	1	# Kernel PPP
pseudo-device	tun		# Packet tunnel.
pseudo-device	pty		# Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
#pseudo-device	md		# Memory "disks"
#pseudo-device	gif	4	# IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
#pseudo-device	faith	1	# IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)

# The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
# Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
#pseudo-device	bpf		#Berkeley packet filter

# USB support
device		uhci		# UHCI PCI->USB interface
device		ohci		# OHCI PCI->USB interface
device		usb		# USB Bus (required)
device		ugen		# Generic
device		uhid		# "Human Interface Devices"
device		ukbd		# Keyboard
device		ulpt		# Printer
device		umass		# Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
device		ums		# Mouse
device		uscanner	# Scanners
# USB Ethernet, requires mii
device		aue		# ADMtek USB ethernet
device		cue		# CATC USB ethernet
device		kue		# Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet

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Apr 30 21:06:29 parpa pccardd[48]: Card "ZOOM TELEPHONICS, INC."(" 56K PC CARD F
AXMODEM") [021] [A] has function ID 2

root@parpa ~# Apr 30 21:07:04 parpa /kernel: sio4 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 5 slot
 1 on pccard1
Apr 30 21:07:04 parpa /kernel: sio4 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 5 slot 1 on pccard1
Apr 30 21:07:04 parpa /kernel: sio4: type 16550A
Apr 30 21:07:04 parpa /kernel: sio4: type 16550A
Apr 30 21:07:04 parpa pccardd[48]: sio4: GENERIC PCMCIA modem inserted.
Apr 30 21:07:04 parpa pccardd[48]: sio4: GENERIC PCMCIA modem inserted.
Apr 30 21:07:04 parpa pccardd[48]: pccardd started
Apr 30 21:07:04 parpa pccardd[48]: pccardd started
Apr 30 21:07:29 parpa login: ROOT LOGIN (root) ON ttyv2

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[ On Wednesday, May 2, Guilherme Oliveira wrote: ]
> Hi !
> 
> I'm trying to quit linux that I'm using for 3 years, but I need a fully
> operational FreeBSD (4.2R now).
> 
> My 1/2 problem is with my PCMCIA: my network is working, but my modem
> don't find sio4 when I plug.
> It is detected, but when I put /dev/sio4 port in ppp.conf it don't
> connect.
> It's not error in the script because it connects with my external modem.
> I tryed 'sh /dev/MAKEDEV sio4' but it gives error.

I'm not totally sure because I haven't worked with ppp in years, but when I
did, I used the device files:

 /dev/cuaa[0-N]

those are the "outgoing" device files for serial ports that Com programs like
minicom, etc. would use. Try

  cd /dev && sh MADEDEV cuaa4

and use /dev/cuaa4

> Here start the other half-problem :)

dunno about that one.

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John Reynolds~ wrote:
> 
> I'm not totally sure because I haven't worked with ppp in years, but when I
> did, I used the device files:
> 
>  /dev/cuaa[0-N]
> 
> those are the "outgoing" device files for serial ports that Com programs like
> minicom, etc. would use. Try
> 
>   cd /dev && sh MADEDEV cuaa4
> 
> and use /dev/cuaa4

It's working now !
The /dev/cuaa4 was there, but when I tried it didn't connected.
The problem was permissions ... the owner and group was root, so I
changed to the same of cuaa1.

It's the last post in linux ;)

Anyway, can anybody send me a functional kernel file (besides GENERIC :)
) that suits for a laptop ?

Thanks !

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so far i've been successfull with all wireless cards that found their way
to my desk, nice going FreeBSD!

now what kind of card is this one:

	BreezeNET PC-DS.11

and is there a driver?

danny



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hi,
  Yes even with the crypt std for wireless it is flawed apparently. 
There was an article by U of A on how they are securing the unsecurable
but i forgot where i saw it. They combine Kerberos and isakmpd IIR 
but then again my mem gets corrupted sometimes;-)) Would be great if 
someone had that url..:-))
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On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 02:12:13PM +0300, Danny Braniss wrote:
>=20
> so far i've been successfull with all wireless cards that found their way
> to my desk, nice going FreeBSD!
>=20
> now what kind of card is this one:
>=20
> 	BreezeNET PC-DS.11
>=20
> and is there a driver?

Assuming the name is in fact implying that it's an 11Mbps DS card, it's
probably a Prism II which would mean it likely works with the wi driver.
I'd suggest copying a pccard.conf entry for one of the other cheap Prism
II cards and adding the correct strings.

-- Brooks

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In message <15087.5960.208104.838824@kitab.cisco.com> Richard Johnson writes:
: I'm trying to get the tw0 device to work on an old Thinkpad 755c
: system.

tw is the X10 device, it isn't X10 over the parallel port thing. Does
your old Thinkpad really have an X10 control device?

Warner

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since my current wireless access point (an apple airport that belongs to one
of my roomates) will be leaving at the beginning of the summer, i recently
went out and picked up a linksys wireless access point and cable/dsl router
combo.  (model BEFW11S4)

from what i can tell, its a standard NAT box/router type thing, with a
wireless bridge.  the NAT portion works fine with all my computers, but i'm
having some trouble with the wireless.

if i try to connect with my FreeBSD laptop with a Lucent Wavelan card, it
makes some kind of contact (since it figures out the name of the wireless
node, verified with wicontrol), but never gets an ip address from the DHCP
server.  manually setting an ip address doesn't help, as the network is
completely unreachable.

with the same wavelan card, in a windows laptop, the wireless works perfectly, 
right out of the box.

so far, i've upgraded the firmware in the card, cvsuped to the latest -STABLE,
and messed with every setting in wicontrol i can think of.

does anyone have any idea what i need to tweak (either on the freebsd side or
on the access point) to make this work?

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Garrett Rooney <rooneg@electricjellyfish.net> wrote:

> with the same wavelan card, in a windows laptop, the wireless works perfectly
> , 
> right out of the box.
> 
> so far, i've upgraded the firmware in the card, cvsuped to the latest -STABLE
> ,
> and messed with every setting in wicontrol i can think of.
> 
> does anyone have any idea what i need to tweak (either on the freebsd side or
> on the access point) to make this work?

     ... and all of your settings are ... ???

     (On both the laptop and access point.)

[ Oh, wait.  You're using linksys junk.  If you're using encryption and
  are using an ASCII key, you did properly scramble the password at the
  linksys end, right (see the linksys web page for more info)?  ]

[ For some inexplicable reason, the linksys stuff uses ASCII keys in a
  manner different from everyone else.  To convert a non-linksys ASCII
  key into something that the linksys stuff will properly handle (read:
  "interoperate with non-linksys equipment"), you've got to translate
  the non-linksys ASCII key into hex and enter the hex values into the
  linksys equipment.  Whee.  ]

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> 
>      ... and all of your settings are ... ???
> 
>      (On both the laptop and access point.)
>
> [ Oh, wait.  You're using linksys junk.  If you're using encryption and
>   are using an ASCII key, you did properly scramble the password at the
>   linksys end, right (see the linksys web page for more info)?  ]
> 
> [ For some inexplicable reason, the linksys stuff uses ASCII keys in a
>   manner different from everyone else.  To convert a non-linksys ASCII
>   key into something that the linksys stuff will properly handle (read:
>   "interoperate with non-linksys equipment"), you've got to translate
>   the non-linksys ASCII key into hex and enter the hex values into the
>   linksys equipment.  Whee.  ]

sorry.  i'm not using any encryption at all.  the linksys access point has
very few configuration options.  i've got it set to 'wireless on' and
'encyption off'.  unfortunately there doesn't seem to be much more in the way
of options.

the laptop is using default settings.  encryption off, power management off,
and so forth.  these settings have worked fine with every other access point
i've tried.

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To: Garrett Rooney <rooneg@electricjellyfish.net>
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Subject: Re: linksys wireless access point 
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Garrett Rooney <rooneg@electricjellyfish.net> wrote:

> sorry.  i'm not using any encryption at all.

     Urg.  You do realize what kind of gaping security hole this is,
right?

> the linksys access point has
> very few configuration options.  i've got it set to 'wireless on' and
> 'encyption off'.  unfortunately there doesn't seem to be much more in the way
> of options.

     Sorry, but, if the above doesn't help you, you really do have to
give excruciating details, if you want any help.  Without excruciating
details, it's extremely difficult to help via email.  It's analogous to
having your car break down, and then sending a *letter* to your
mechanic, saying: "Help!  My car doesn't work."  Please realize that
it's very difficult to help under these circumstances.

     That said, the output of wicontrol would be useful, as well as
every setting that the linksys access point reports or allows you to
change.

Other comments:

* Have you tried upgrading the firmware in the access point (if this is
  even possible)?

* You did explicitly set the (FreeBSD) laptop's wi0 network name to be
  the same as that used by the linksys, right?  Note that I'm talking
  about the network name, and not the access point name.

  [ If, for some strange reason, the linksys doesn't support changing
    the network name, and doesn't tell you what it is, have you tried
    using the WaveLan WaveManager software under Windows to see what
    network name the access point is using?  ]

-- 
	Darryl Okahata
	darrylo@soco.agilent.com

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Subject: Re: linksys wireless access point
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On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 02:27:44PM -0700, Darryl Okahata wrote:
> Garrett Rooney <rooneg@electricjellyfish.net> wrote:
> 
> > sorry.  i'm not using any encryption at all.
> 
>      Urg.  You do realize what kind of gaping security hole this is,
> right?

i don't do anything over the network thats important and not encrypted anyway.

>      That said, the output of wicontrol would be useful, as well as
> every setting that the linksys access point reports or allows you to
> change.

here's the output of wicontrol (right now it's connected to another network,
but the settings are the same i'm using to try to connect to the linksys.
note that when i try to connect to the linksys, it finds the SSID and selects
the proper channel)

[rooneg@marcus ~]$ wicontrol 
NIC serial number:                      [ 00UT33370208 ]
Station name:                           [ FreeBSD WaveLAN/IEEE node ]
SSID for IBSS creation:                 [ FreeBSD IBSS ]
Current netname (SSID):                 [ psiu ]
Desired netname (SSID):                 [  ]
Current BSSID:                          [ 00:60:1d:23:be:7c ]
Channel list:                           [ 2047 ]
IBSS channel:                           [ 10 ]
Current channel:                        [ 1 ]
Comms quality/signal/noise:             [ 11 71 60 ]
Promiscuous mode:                       [ Off ]
Port type (1=BSS, 3=ad-hoc):            [ 1 ]
MAC address:                            [ 00:02:2d:08:ad:a1 ]
TX rate (selection):                    [ 3 ]
TX rate (actual speed):                 [ 11 ]
RTS/CTS handshake threshold:            [ 2347 ]
Create IBSS:                            [ Off ]
Access point density:                   [ 1 ]
Power Mgmt (1=on, 0=off):               [ 0 ]
Max sleep time:                         [ 100 ]
WEP encryption:                         [ Off ]
TX encryption key:                      [ 1 ]
Encryption keys:                        [  ][  ][  ][  ]
[rooneg@marcus ~]$ 

the only configuration options on the access point related to wireless are 
simply 'on/off', which is set to on, obviously, ESSID, which is set to 
'linksys', the default they shipped it with, channel, which is set to 6, also 
the default they shipped it with, WEP (manditory or disable), which is set to 
disable, and then some options for setting WEP keys and choosing the active 
key, all of which are empty, since i'm not using WEP.

> Other comments:
> 
> * Have you tried upgrading the firmware in the access point (if this is
>   even possible)?

as far as i can tell, it is possible to upgrade the firmware, but i am
already using the most current version.  (at least there aren't any updates on
linksys's web page or on their ftp site)

> * You did explicitly set the (FreeBSD) laptop's wi0 network name to be
>   the same as that used by the linksys, right?  Note that I'm talking
>   about the network name, and not the access point name.
> 
>   [ If, for some strange reason, the linksys doesn't support changing
>     the network name, and doesn't tell you what it is, have you tried
>     using the WaveLan WaveManager software under Windows to see what
>     network name the access point is using?  ]

i've tried both setting it to the same as the one used by the linksys (it
defaults to 'linksys') and leaving it set to 'ANY', so it will go to any
network it can find.  

-- 
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rooneg@electricjellyfish.net       doing stupid things, because that would  
http://electricjellyfish.net/      stop you from doing clever things.

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Greg Smith wrote:
> 
> If you tell us your type of laptop and the version of FreeBSD you have
> installed you will probably get a better response.  There are special
> conditions for many laptops.

Toshiba 310CDS (P200MMX, a new Fujitsu 10GB, 32RAM).
My cards are a Zoom Telephonic 56k and a Ovislink 10Mbit/S.

The modem and ethernet is working now, I think my Fujitsu disk is not
detected properly at startup, it gives a timeout error and is not
working with DMA.

> Or check the following link, which is the "Laptop Compatibility for FreeBSD"
> site:
> http://www.cse.ucsc.edu/~dkulp/fbsd/laptop.html

I have checked this link, but my problem is not knowing very well
FreeBSD kernel, so I don't know the best options and devices, that's why
I wanted somene kernel's to compare (&learn).

Doing this with your configure file, I found that I had two pcic's and I
think I only need one.
Then I compiled with buildkernel, but it gives me an error, so I am
compiling world.
Handbook says this is the problem. Then I will make buildkernel again
...

Thanks again for the help !

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Hi all,

My Sony Vaio Z600-HEK has arrived. Windows 2000 that was installed
seemed to be faulty. A quick shake, and it fell right off :)

Anyways, FreeBSD installed quite smoothly, and I have the box at the
point where I can do work with it. I now want to tweak it so that I
can have fun with it. To this end, I need to ask a couple of
questions (in no particular order of importance :))

1. The card installed according to Windows was an ATI rage
mobility. I chose the ATI Mach 3D RAGE II in xf86cfg because that was
the closest thing that I could find. XFree86 4.0.3 works but I was
wondering if there was a better choice ?

2. The touchpad seems sluggish. Is there any way to speed this up ?

3. Sound. The bane of my life on Laptops. I never did get the sound on
my pcg505 working under Linux or FreeBSD. Does anyone know if the
sound card in the Z600-HEK works under FreeBSD? It is a Yamaha of some
sort. If so, what should I include in my kernel to activate it ?

4. Shutting down and powering off... What do I have to do to make
shutdown -p turn off the power? I've included the apm line that was in
GENERIC in my own kernel, but it doesn't work. When I shut down I get
the message saying that the system has been shut down. Hit any key to
reboot.

5. Suspend to disk - There was no partition on the machine for this
before I whacked Windows. Is there any way to do this on this machine?

6. Memory stick slot - can this be made to work? Please say yes :)
This would make my life soooo much more convinient.

7. Jog dial - This is a looooong shot, but can this be configured to
act as a mouse wheel or is it just a plastic widget on the side of my
machine that will never be used :) 

Thanks in advance for any tips / solutions to any of this :)

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I had this problem yesterday with an intel modem/lan card on my VAIO =
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  Hello Folks,

  I am using FreeBSD 4.3 Release on a Compaq Armada M700. After a =
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Anytime I insert a PCMCIA card in the Armada, the system immediately =
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Garrett Rooney <rooneg@electricjellyfish.net> wrote:

> i've tried both setting it to the same as the one used by the linksys (it
> defaults to 'linksys') and leaving it set to 'ANY', so it will go to any
> network it can find.  

     I'm not sure "ANY" works, although it's supposed to (I think you
may have to set it to the empty string, "", instead -- without the
quotes).

     From the above, I believe you've tried this, but I just want to
double-check (note the "-n"):

	wicontrol -i wi0 -n linksys

Linksys does have a Lucent Orinoco/Wavelan-specific note mentioning that
you must set the desired network name to match that used by the access
point, and that a blank network name will not work (this is for the
WAP11, but it probably also applies to the BEFW11S4).

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Correct, once we can find a source for the Cisco 350 100mW MMCX PC Card's,
we'll be modifying the an driver.  Course we could switch to Linux and use
prismdump, but that would require Linux, eew.

btw, if you're in the San Francisco Bay Area on Thursday, you can meet
Pete & Me @ the BAWUG meeting in Redwood City (at your favorite MP3
company).  See
<http://lists.bawug.org/pipermail/wireless/2001-April/000846.html>.

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On Mon, 30 Apr 2001, Brooks Davis wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 30, 2001 at 10:54:13AM -0700, Geoffrey T. Cheshire wrote:
> > Here's an article with a little technical info, and a BSD Perl script for
> > wireless sniffing.  I guess you need an 802.11 NIC that can be forced into
> > promisc.  Don't know which ones those are.
> >
> > http://www.free2air.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2001/4/13/1419/40470
>
> The script requires any card supported by the wi driver.  It does not
> use promisc mode at all.


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On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 03:36:28PM -0700, Darryl Okahata wrote:
> Garrett Rooney <rooneg@electricjellyfish.net> wrote:
> 
> > i've tried both setting it to the same as the one used by the linksys (it
> > defaults to 'linksys') and leaving it set to 'ANY', so it will go to any
> > network it can find.  
> 
>      I'm not sure "ANY" works, although it's supposed to (I think you
> may have to set it to the empty string, "", instead -- without the
> quotes).

well, the default setting you get when booting up is an empty string, which
from my experience has allowed me to connect to any network around i don't
know if you actually have to set it to an empty string by hand or not...

>      From the above, I believe you've tried this, but I just want to
> double-check (note the "-n"):
> 
> 	wicontrol -i wi0 -n linksys
> 
> Linksys does have a Lucent Orinoco/Wavelan-specific note mentioning that
> you must set the desired network name to match that used by the access
> point, and that a blank network name will not work (this is for the
> WAP11, but it probably also applies to the BEFW11S4).

yeah, i've already tried that.  good to see that we're both finding the same
FAQ's though ;-)

i'll try it again the next time i'm home...  (the access point is at my
parents house, right now i'm up at school).  anyway, thanks for all your help.

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Garrett Rooney <rooneg@electricjellyfish.net> wrote:

> well, the default setting you get when booting up is an empty string, which
> from my experience has allowed me to connect to any network around i don't
> know if you actually have to set it to an empty string by hand or not...

     Well, the linksys docs say that an empty string won't work, and so
linksys may have done something strange ....

     Another thing to try is to simplify things and just use a static
IP, to eliminate some possible failure points (like DHCP).  That's what
I did when I was setting up my Buffalo Tech. access point.  I know you
said you tried doing this, but you did use IP addresses on the same
subnet, right?  Is the linksys access point set up for DHCP or static
IP?  What was the IP address of the access point?  If DHCP, is the
linksys DHCP server disabled?  Could you ping the access point (using
numeric IP addresses)?  Which, if any, of the LEDs on the Wavelan PCMCIA
card were lit?

[ I just took a look at the BEFW11S4 manual, and it's a lot like my
  linksys BEFSR11 firewall.  It has a fair number of configuration
  options (not "very few").  As you said that it "makes some kind of
  contact", this makes me think that something else might be wrong.  ]

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     As a side note, the perl script at:

	http://www.free2air.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2001/4/13/1419/40470

uses:

	wicontrol -i wi0 -p 1

to "reset the SSID".  You might want to try doing the following, to see
if it changes anything:

	wicontrol -i wi0 -n linksys
	wicontrol -i wi0 -p 1

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On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 04:04:39PM -0700, Darryl Okahata wrote:
> Garrett Rooney <rooneg@electricjellyfish.net> wrote:
> 
> > well, the default setting you get when booting up is an empty string, which
> > from my experience has allowed me to connect to any network around i don't
> > know if you actually have to set it to an empty string by hand or not...
> 
>      Well, the linksys docs say that an empty string won't work, and so
> linksys may have done something strange ....

this is true...  i will be sure to try it again at the next opportunity.

>      Another thing to try is to simplify things and just use a static
> IP, to eliminate some possible failure points (like DHCP).  That's what
> I did when I was setting up my Buffalo Tech. access point.  I know you
> said you tried doing this, but you did use IP addresses on the same
> subnet, right?  Is the linksys access point set up for DHCP or static
> IP?  What was the IP address of the access point?  If DHCP, is the
> linksys DHCP server disabled?  Could you ping the access point (using
> numeric IP addresses)?  Which, if any, of the LEDs on the Wavelan PCMCIA
> card were lit?

the access point has a static ip itself (192.168.1.1), and gives out ip's with
DHCP (which is working fine for the wired case and for wireless under
windows).  i tried assigning a static ip to the wireless card under freebsd,
in the same subnet (i gave it 192.168.1.2), and i was unable to ping anything
(specifically the access point itself).  the laptop is able to recieve an ip 
if i give it a standard ethernet card and plug it right in, so i don't think 
anything is wrong with my dhcp configuration.  as for led's on the PCMCIA 
card, the power led remains on the whole time, and the transmit led is lit for 
a moment when it first tries to get a DHCP lease and then once or twice after 
that, but never for very long (less activity than when the card is working 
normally).

> [ I just took a look at the BEFW11S4 manual, and it's a lot like my
>   linksys BEFSR11 firewall.  It has a fair number of configuration
>   options (not "very few").  As you said that it "makes some kind of
>   contact", this makes me think that something else might be wrong.  ]

oh, it has a hell of a lot of configuration options, but not for the wireless
portion.  i didn't think you wanted me to quote you the entire set of config
options, since it is extensive, and the non wireless portion is working as
expected.  especially since the same card works correctly under windows with
these settings.

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On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 04:22:33PM -0700, Darryl Okahata wrote:
>      As a side note, the perl script at:
> 
> 	http://www.free2air.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2001/4/13/1419/40470
> 
> uses:
> 
> 	wicontrol -i wi0 -p 1
> 
> to "reset the SSID".  You might want to try doing the following, to see
> if it changes anything:
> 
> 	wicontrol -i wi0 -n linksys
> 	wicontrol -i wi0 -p 1

i don't believe this is necessary any more.  wicontrol -p 1 changes to BSS
mode, which was recently made the default setting, where it previously had
been ad-hoc mode.

in any case, i will also give this a try the next time i have access to the
machine.  it's particularly annoying that i won't be able to try any of this
until friday at the earliest ;-(

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On Wed, 2 May 2001, John Reynolds~ wrote:

>
> [ On Wednesday, May 2, Kim C. Callis wrote: ]
> > Hello Folks,
> >
> > I am using FreeBSD 4.3 Release on a Compaq Armada M700. After a wonderfully easy cvsup makeworld upgrade, I have noticed the following. Anytime I insert a PCMCIA card in the Armada, the system immediately freezes up. There is no warning, no core dumps, and nothing indicated in the log files. Has anyone else run into this or am I the acception?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
>
> did you have to do anything "special" during your original install? Like
> change the irq value of the pcic0 controller to something other than 0? By
> default pcic is in 'polling' mode.

Nope, there were no changes to my kernel configuration files with the
exception of the original changes, which were working fine under 4.1.


>
> Perhaps in the kernel you built during your CVSup->upgrade path, you didn't
> have pcic0 assigned to an IRQ. What does your dmesg output for pcic say before
> you lock the machine up inserting a card?
>

I am attaching my current dmsg, but it looks ok to me....

Kim C. Callis


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Garrett Rooney <rooneg@electricjellyfish.net> wrote:

> as for led's on the PCMCIA 
> card, the power led remains on the whole time, and the transmit led is lit fo
> r 
> a moment when it first tries to get a DHCP lease and then once or twice after
> that, but never for very long (less activity than when the card is working 
> normally).

     I was asking because, on my Wavelan card, at least, the power LED
turns on only if the card successfully negotiates a connection with the
access point.  If there's no access point, or if the network name or
encryption key is wrong, the LED won't light up (this is for BSS mode
only -- it'll light up for ad-hoc mode, but you're not using this).

     Strange.  Do you know if, during your testing, you ever set both
the network name and the IP address (statically), or was it one or the
other, and not both at once?

[ We're running out of ideas, here.  ;-( ]

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I want to get a tablet computer, something similar to the "fujitsu
stylistic" for example:
http://www.fpsi.fujitsu.com/www/products_pentablets.shtml?products/pentablets/stylistic_3500

of course I want to make sure I can run freebsd on it.
requirements are: running Xfree :-),  stylus supported like a normal
mouse at least, ethernet. USB support would be nice too but not
mandatory.

Anybody has a tablet PC in use with FreeBSD ?
Please share your experiences....

thanks all

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On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 05:23:23PM -0700, Darryl Okahata wrote:
> Garrett Rooney <rooneg@electricjellyfish.net> wrote:
> 
> > as for led's on the PCMCIA 
> > card, the power led remains on the whole time, and the transmit led is lit fo
> > r 
> > a moment when it first tries to get a DHCP lease and then once or twice after
> > that, but never for very long (less activity than when the card is working 
> > normally).
> 
>      I was asking because, on my Wavelan card, at least, the power LED
> turns on only if the card successfully negotiates a connection with the
> access point.  If there's no access point, or if the network name or
> encryption key is wrong, the LED won't light up (this is for BSS mode
> only -- it'll light up for ad-hoc mode, but you're not using this).
>
>      Strange.  Do you know if, during your testing, you ever set both
> the network name and the IP address (statically), or was it one or the
> other, and not both at once?

honestly, i can't remember ;-(  at this point, i'll simply have to try it the
next time i'm home.  

> [ We're running out of ideas, here.  ;-( ]

*grin*

at this point, i'm willing to be it's something to do with the network name.
i probably screwed up when i was trying that yesterday, and managed to avoid
hitting the magic combo that worked.  i was frustrated enough that i could
have easily missed something.  also, the windows install program does require
you to specify a network name, so that points to it as the issue as well.

again, thank you for the help.  sometimes it helps to have someone else
thinking about the problem, just so you can get pointed toward the right
direction.  i'll test the network name idea more thoroughly as soon as i can,
and i'll let you know what happens.

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From owner-freebsd-mobile  Wed May  2 17:33:45 2001
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Sorry about the mail connection ... I'm trying to porting all files from
linux to bsd and it's a big mess :)
This is the right connection !

Greg Smith wrote:
> 
> If you tell us your type of laptop and the version of FreeBSD you have
> installed you will probably get a better response.  There are special
> conditions for many laptops.

Toshiba 310CDS (P200MMX, a new Fujitsu 10GB, 32RAM).
My cards are a Zoom Telephonic 56k and a Ovislink 10Mbit/S.
FreeBSD 4.2 RELEASE.

The modem and ethernet is working now, I think my Fujitsu disk is not
detected properly at startup, it gives a timeout error and is not
working with DMA.

> Or check the following link, which is the "Laptop Compatibility for FreeBSD"
> site:
> http://www.cse.ucsc.edu/~dkulp/fbsd/laptop.html

I have checked this link, but my problem is not knowing very well
FreeBSD kernel, so I don't know the best options and devices, that's why
I wanted somene kernel's to compare (&learn).

Doing this with your configure file, I found that I had two pcic's and I
think I only need one.
Then I compiled with buildkernel, but it gives me an error, so I am
compiling world.
Handbook says this is the problem. Then I will make buildkernel again...

Thanks again for the help !

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On Wed, May 02, 2001 at 10:52:15PM +0100, Wayne Pascoe wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> My Sony Vaio Z600-HEK has arrived. Windows 2000 that was installed
> seemed to be faulty. A quick shake, and it fell right off :)

Windows installations seem to be similarly unstable in my house. Must be the
air.

> Anyways, FreeBSD installed quite smoothly, and I have the box at the
> point where I can do work with it. I now want to tweak it so that I
> can have fun with it. To this end, I need to ask a couple of
> questions (in no particular order of importance :))
> 
> 1. The card installed according to Windows was an ATI rage
> mobility. I chose the ATI Mach 3D RAGE II in xf86cfg because that was
> the closest thing that I could find. XFree86 4.0.3 works but I was
> wondering if there was a better choice ?
> 

That choice instructs XF86 to use the Mach64 set of support, and from there
it will actually discover that it is a Rage Mobility. XF86 doesn't actually
get instructed as to the exact chipset in your system, only the general
kind, such as Mach64 or Mach32.

So you're probably using it to full potential. You may want to turn DPMS on,
if screen blanking just makes your day.


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I've tried every combination of free irq wired
in my kernel for pcic/pccard0/pccard1 and I cannoty
get my lucent wavelan recognized.

irq 10 or 11 prevents the freeze. (pio mode by default?)
pccardc enabler is dangerous and can cause kernel panics
if the wrong irq is chosen. on this box, 3 collides with
an unknown device:

pci0: <unknown card> (vendor=0x11c1, dev=0x0448) at 16.0 irq 3

using it causes ATA resets and bad slowdowns. 5 is audio, 10 is
used by almost every PCI device.

I have tried scanning the mail list archives, none of the 'recipes'
there seem to work for me.

Is there a known problem with FreeBSD 4.3 and cardbus right now?

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	-George


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From owner-freebsd-mobile  Wed May  2 18:53:22 2001
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>From: ggm@apnic.net
>Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 11:46 EST

>Is there a known problem with FreeBSD 4.3 and cardbus right now?

Yes.

Cardbus is only supported in -CURRENT (5.0), to the best of my knowledge
and belief.

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  > >From: ggm@apnic.net
  > >Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 11:46 EST
  > 
  > >Is there a known problem with FreeBSD 4.3 and cardbus right now?
  > 
  > Yes.
  > 
  > Cardbus is only supported in -CURRENT (5.0), to the best of my knowledge
  > and belief.
  > 
  > Cheers,
  > david

Maybe Cardbus was the wrong thing to say. 
  
Should I be able to use a pcmcia wavelan card on a DELL? Is there a known
working method to enable pccardd to recognize the devices?

-George
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Hello,

I am running 4.3-stable on a Sony Vaio Z505JE and have two questions.

1.  I adjusted the pcic irq to 12 but pccard still locks the system up.
Anyone have any ideas on a workaround?

2.  Is there any good faq on wicontrol around?

Please cc me on reply since I am not on this list.

Thanks

Chris


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George Michaelson <ggm@apnic.net> wrote:

> Should I be able to use a pcmcia wavelan card on a DELL?

     Possibly.  I've got an old Dell Inspiron 7500, and the Wavelan
works well.  I'm still using FreeBSD 4.2, though (the 7500 has a cardbus
interface, which is used in non-cardbus mode, as FreeBSD 4.X doesn't
support cardbus).

> Is there a known
> working method to enable pccardd to recognize the devices?

     Possibly.  Perhaps if you gave some useful information (complete
dmesg -- preferably verbose -- and complete kernel config, etc.),
somebody might be able to help.  Be warned that Dell's notebook BIOS
tends to be on the "nonconfigurable" side; there's a chance that you
might be screwed.  Also, to get some free IRQs, you may also have to
disable some unused devices (assuming that the BIOS allows you to), like
the IRDA interface or something else.

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Chris,

Are you using a USB mouse?

IRQ12 is normally assigned to the mouse (or pointing device imitating a 
mouse).  I think the only way to free up IRQ12 is with a USB mouse.

>1.  I adjusted the pcic irq to 12 but pccard still locks the system up.
>Anyone have any ideas on a workaround?

HTH,

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My mistake,  It is actually set to irq 11.

device          pcic0   at isa? irq 11 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000

Thanks

Chris

On Thu, 3 May 2001, Greg Smith wrote:

> Chris,
>
> Are you using a USB mouse?
>
> IRQ12 is normally assigned to the mouse (or pointing device imitating a
> mouse).  I think the only way to free up IRQ12 is with a USB mouse.
>
> >1.  I adjusted the pcic irq to 12 but pccard still locks the system up.
> >Anyone have any ideas on a workaround?
>
> HTH,
>
> Greg
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I'd say this is looking to be DELL h/w version specific, and 4.3 specific.

I had the device working on a Compaq under 4.2, so the card is only known
good in other hardware.

the problem of PIO mode (default) freezing the box is a mildly worrying, I've
seen enough other people with the same problem to suspect it should be a known
issue on the platform.

dmesg and kernel config attached...
Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project.
Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994
	The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved.
FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #6: Thu May  3 11:38:00 EST 2001
    root@host-124.staff.apnic.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/GGM
Timecounter "i8254"  frequency 1193182 Hz
CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (696.97-MHz 686-class CPU)
  Origin = "GenuineIntel"  Id = 0x686  Stepping = 6
  Features=0x383f9ff<FPU,VME,DE,PSE,TSC,MSR,PAE,MCE,CX8,SEP,MTRR,PGE,MCA,CMOV,P
AT,PSE36,MMX,FXSR,SSE>
real memory  = 268369920 (262080K bytes)
avail memory = 257929216 (251884K bytes)
Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc034b000.
Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc034b09c.
Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled
md0: Malloc disk
apm0: <APM BIOS> on motherboard
apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2
npx0: <math processor> on motherboard
npx0: INT 16 interface
pcib0: <Intel 82443BX (440 BX) host to PCI bridge> on motherboard
pci0: <PCI bus> on pcib0
pcib1: <Intel 82443BX (440 BX) PCI-PCI (AGP) bridge> at device 1.0 on pci0
pci1: <PCI bus> on pcib1
pci1: <ATI Mobility-1 graphics accelerator> at 0.0 irq 10
isab0: <Intel 82371AB PCI to ISA bridge> at device 7.0 on pci0
isa0: <ISA bus> on isab0
atapci0: <Intel PIIX4 ATA33 controller> port 0xfcd0-0xfcdf at device 7.1 on 
pci0
ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
uhci0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> port 0xfce0-0xfcff irq 11 at 
device 7.2 on pci0
usb0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> on uhci0
usb0: USB revision 1.0
uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered
chip1: <Intel 82371AB Power management controller> port 0x2180-0x218f at 
device 7.3 on pci0
pcm0: <Crystal Semiconductor CS4281> mem 0xfedf0000-0xfedfffff,0xfedef000-0xfed
effff irq 10 at device 8.0 on pci0
pcic-pci0: <TI PCI-1410 PCI-CardBus Bridge> irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci0
pcic-pci0: TI12XX PCI Config Reg: [ring enable][speaker enable][pwr save][CSC 
serial isa irq]
xl0: <3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xfc00-0xfc7f mem 
0xfededc00-0xfededc7f irq 10 at device 13.0 on pci0
xl0: Ethernet address: 00:b0:d0:bf:71:dd
miibus0: <MII bus> on xl0
xlphy0: <3c905C 10/100 internal PHY> on miibus0
xlphy0:  10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto
pci0: <unknown card> (vendor=0x11c1, dev=0x0448) at 16.0 irq 3
fdc0: <NEC 72065B or clone> at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0
fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold
fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0
atkbdc0: <Keyboard controller (i8042)> at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0
atkbd0: <AT Keyboard> flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0
kbd0 at atkbd0
psm0: <PS/2 Mouse> irq 12 on atkbdc0
psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0
vga0: <Generic ISA VGA> at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0
sc0: <System console> at flags 0x100 on isa0
sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300>
pcic0: <VLSI 82C146> at port 0x3e0-0x3e1 irq 10 on isa0
pcic0: management irq 13
pccard0: <PC Card bus -- kludge version> on pcic0
pccard1: <PC Card bus -- kludge version> on pcic0
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
ppc0: <Parallel port> at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0
ppc0: Generic chipset (ECP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode
ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold
plip0: <PLIP network interface> on ppbus0
lpt0: <Printer> on ppbus0
lpt0: Interrupt-driven port
ppi0: <Parallel I/O> on ppbus0
ad0: 9590MB <HITACHI_DK23BA-10> [19485/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33
Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s3a


#
# GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386
#
# For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on
# Kernel Configuration Files:
#
#    http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html
#
# The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook
# if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the
# FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the
# latest information.
#
# An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the
# device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are
# in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT.
#
# $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.246.2.24 2001/04/05 17:23:10 sos Exp 
$

machine		i386
#ggm cpu		I386_CPU
#ggm cpu		I486_CPU
cpu		I586_CPU
cpu		I686_CPU
ident		GGM
maxusers	64

#makeoptions	DEBUG=-g		#Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols

options 	MATH_EMULATE		#Support for x87 emulation
options 	INET			#InterNETworking
#ggm options 	INET6			#IPv6 communications protocols
options 	FFS			#Berkeley Fast Filesystem
options 	FFS_ROOT		#FFS usable as root device [keep this!]
options 	SOFTUPDATES		#Enable FFS soft updates support
options 	MFS			#Memory Filesystem
options 	MD_ROOT			#MD is a potential root device
#ggm options 	NFS			#Network Filesystem
#ggm options 	NFS_ROOT		#NFS usable as root device, NFS required
options 	MSDOSFS			#MSDOS Filesystem
options 	CD9660			#ISO 9660 Filesystem
options 	CD9660_ROOT		#CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required
options 	PROCFS			#Process filesystem
options 	COMPAT_43		#Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!]
#ggm options 	SCSI_DELAY=15000	#Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI
options 	UCONSOLE		#Allow users to grab the console
#ggm options 	USERCONFIG		#boot -c editor
#ggm options 	VISUAL_USERCONFIG	#visual boot -c editor
options 	KTRACE			#ktrace(1) support
options 	SYSVSHM			#SYSV-style shared memory
options 	SYSVMSG			#SYSV-style message queues
options 	SYSVSEM			#SYSV-style semaphores
options 	P1003_1B		#Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions
options 	_KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING
options		ICMP_BANDLIM		#Rate limit bad replies
options 	KBD_INSTALL_CDEV	# install a CDEV entry in /dev

# To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed
#options 	SMP			# Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel
#options 	APIC_IO			# Symmetric (APIC) I/O

device		isa
#ggm device		eisa
device		pci

# Floppy drives
device		fdc0	at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2
device		fd0	at fdc0 drive 0
#ggm device		fd1	at fdc0 drive 1

# ATA and ATAPI devices
device		ata0	at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
device		ata1	at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
device		ata
device		atadisk			# ATA disk drives
device		atapicd			# ATAPI CDROM drives
device		atapifd			# ATAPI floppy drives
device		atapist			# ATAPI tape drives
options 	ATA_STATIC_ID		#Static device numbering

# SCSI Controllers
#ggm device		ahb		# EISA AHA1742 family
#ggm device		ahc		# AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices
#ggm device		amd		# AMD 53C974 (Tekram DC-390(T))
#ggm device		isp		# Qlogic family
#ggm device		ncr		# NCR/Symbios Logic
#ggm device		sym		# NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets)
#ggm options		SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40
				# Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when 
				# both sym and ncr are configured

#ggm device		adv0	at isa?
#ggm device		adw
#ggm device		bt0	at isa?
#ggm device		aha0	at isa?
#ggm device		aic0	at isa?

#ggm device		ncv		# NCR 53C500
#ggm device		nsp		# Workbit Ninja SCSI-3
#ggm device		stg		# TMC 18C30/18C50

# SCSI peripherals
device		scbus		# SCSI bus (required)
device		da		# Direct Access (disks)
device		sa		# Sequential Access (tape etc)
device		cd		# CD
device		pass		# Passthrough device (direct SCSI access)

# RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem
#ggm device		asr		# DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID
#ggm device		dpt		# DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options!
#ggm device		mly		# Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID

# RAID controllers
#ggm device		aac		# Adaptec FSA RAID, Dell PERC2/PERC3
#ggm device		ida		# Compaq Smart RAID
#ggm device		amr		# AMI MegaRAID
#ggm device		mlx		# Mylex DAC960 family
#ggm device		twe		# 3ware Escalade

# atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse
device		atkbdc0	at isa? port IO_KBD
device		atkbd0	at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1
device		psm0	at atkbdc? irq 12

device		vga0	at isa?

# splash screen/screen saver
pseudo-device	splash

# syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console
device		sc0	at isa? flags 0x100

# Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver
#device		vt0	at isa?
#options 	XSERVER			# support for X server on a vt console
#options 	FAT_CURSOR		# start with block cursor
# If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines
#options 	PCVT_SCANSET=2		# IBM keyboards are non-std

# Floating point support - do not disable.
device		npx0	at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13

# Power management support (see LINT for more options)
#ggm device		apm0    at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management
device		apm0

# PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
device          card
device		pcic0	at isa? irq 10
device		pcic1	at isa? irq 10
#device		pcic0	at isa? irq 10 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000
#device		pcic1	at isa? irq 10 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable

# Serial (COM) ports
device		sio0	at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4
device		sio1	at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3
#ggm device		sio2	at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5
#ggm device		sio3	at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9

# Parallel port
device		ppc0	at isa? irq 7
device		ppbus		# Parallel port bus (required)
device		lpt		# Printer
device		plip		# TCP/IP over parallel
device		ppi		# Parallel port interface device
#device		vpo		# Requires scbus and da


# PCI Ethernet NICs.
#ggm device		de		# DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'')
#ggm device		fxp		# Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558)
#ggm device		tx		# SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'')
#ggm device		vx		# 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'')
#ggm device		wx		# Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'')

# PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code.
# NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs!
device		miibus		# MII bus support
#ggm device		dc		# DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes
#ggm device		pcn		# AMD Am79C79x PCI 10/100 NICs
#ggm device		rl		# RealTek 8129/8139
#ggm device		sf		# Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'')
#ggm device		sis		# Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016
#ggm device		ste		# Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX)
#ggm device		tl		# Texas Instruments ThunderLAN
#ggm device		vr		# VIA Rhine, Rhine II
#ggm device		wb		# Winbond W89C840F
device		xl		# 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'')

# ISA Ethernet NICs.
#ggm device		ed0	at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000
#ggm device		ex
#ggm device		ep
#ggm device		fe0	at isa? port 0x300
# Xircom Ethernet
#ggm device		xe
# PRISM I IEEE 802.11b wireless NIC.
device		awi
# WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really
# exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attachment needed
# and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard code.
device		wi
# Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration below will
# work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA PnP
# mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA
# card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must specify
# those parameters here.
device		an
# The probe order of these is presently determined by i386/isa/isa_compat.c.
#ggm device		ie0	at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000
#device		le0	at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000
#ggm device		lnc0	at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0
#ggm device		cs0	at isa? port 0x300
#ggm device		sn0	at isa? port 0x300 irq 10

# Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocate.
pseudo-device	loop		# Network loopback
pseudo-device	ether		# Ethernet support
pseudo-device	sl	1	# Kernel SLIP
pseudo-device	ppp	1	# Kernel PPP
pseudo-device	tun		# Packet tunnel.
pseudo-device	pty		# Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc)
pseudo-device	md		# Memory "disks"
#ggm pseudo-device	gif	4	# IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling
#ggm pseudo-device	faith	1	# IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation)

# The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter.
# Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this!
pseudo-device	bpf		#Berkeley packet filter

# USB support
device		uhci		# UHCI PCI->USB interface
device		ohci		# OHCI PCI->USB interface
device		usb		# USB Bus (required)
device		ugen		# Generic
device		uhid		# "Human Interface Devices"
device		ukbd		# Keyboard
device		ulpt		# Printer
device		umass		# Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da
device		ums		# Mouse
device		uscanner	# Scanners
# USB Ethernet, requires mii
device		aue		# ADMtek USB ethernet
device		cue		# CATC USB ethernet
device		kue		# Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet
#
device		pcm
options		USER_LDT

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From owner-freebsd-mobile  Wed May  2 21:47:20 2001
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References: <00c301c0d356$3dd6a820$4200a8c0@c2associates.net>  
Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 22:47:10 -0600
From: Warner Losh <imp@harmony.village.org>
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In message <00c301c0d356$3dd6a820$4200a8c0@c2associates.net> "Kim C. Callis" writes:
: I am using FreeBSD 4.3 Release on a Compaq Armada M700. After a =
: wonderfully easy cvsup makeworld upgrade, I have noticed the following. =
: Anytime I insert a PCMCIA card in the Armada, the system immediately =
: freezes up. There is no warning, no core dumps, and nothing indicated in =
: the log files. Has anyone else run into this or am I the acception?

Pick an irq to use.

It would appear that many cardbus controllers default to using an
interrupt, even when you asked them not to.  I've just discovered
this, so can't really comment further on it.

Warner

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You are using a TI chipset.  It is the same chipset that i'm having
problems with.

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In message <3AF0A54C.355BBDDD@dvart.com> bruno schwander writes:
: Anybody has a tablet PC in use with FreeBSD ?

I'm using FreeBSD 4.3-rc on an earlier version of the stylistic (the
500) and it works fine.  The touch screen needs special software to
work, but it is fairly easy to find on the net.

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In message <200105030149.LAA04699@hadrian.staff.apnic.net> ggm@apnic.net writes:
: Is there a known problem with FreeBSD 4.3 and cardbus right now?

FreeBSD works with card bus bridges in 16-bit mode, but doesn't
support 32-bit cardbus cards in 4.x just yet.

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In message <11812.988864871@apnic.net> George Michaelson writes:
: the problem of PIO mode (default) freezing the box is a mildly worrying, I've
: seen enough other people with the same problem to suspect it should be a known
: issue on the platform.

TI chips have a slightly funky way of doing things, so they sometimes
fail to work in polling mode due to interrupt storms they can cause.

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Well, the lock up is new with 4.3, but I was having a hell of a time getting
my wavelan card to work... I think it might be a problem with the design of
the Compaq... It seems to use a hell of a lot of IRQs...




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> You are using a TI chipset.  It is the same chipset that i'm having
> problems with.
>
> Warner
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George,

The following seems a little odd to me, because I don't even think IRQ13 is 
available (wired) on PCs.  It is the IRQ for npx, the FPU or numeric data 
processor.

>pcic0: <VLSI 82C146> at port 0x3e0-0x3e1 irq 10 on isa0
>pcic0: management irq 13
>pccard0: <PC Card bus -- kludge version> on pcic0
>pccard1: <PC Card bus -- kludge version> on pcic0

You've even got it that way in your kernel:

># Floating point support - do not disable.
>device		npx0	at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13

Maybe Warner can confirm if the message is in error, or this really happened 
as displayed.

I suspect pcic didn't like you suggestion of IRQ10, and somehow came up with 
this alternative.

HTH,

Greg
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On Wed, 2 May 2001, Kim C. Callis wrote:

> I am using FreeBSD 4.3 Release on a Compaq Armada M700. After a
[snipped]
> following. Anytime I insert a PCMCIA card in the Armada, the system
> immediately freezes up. There is no warning, no core dumps, and

i'm with 4.3-STABLE on an armada m300, and have no such problem. from
looking at the specs, both the m300 and m700 share a lot of inner
components.

--dinesh


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  > George,
  > 
  > The following seems a little odd to me, because I don't even think IRQ13 
is
  > available (wired) on PCs.  It is the IRQ for npx, the FPU or numeric data
  > processor.

Indeed as you say. But thats what dmesg reports if I set the IRQ for the pcard
systems, and 10 is what other posts to the FreeBSD lists have recommended!

  > 
  > >pcic0: <VLSI 82C146> at port 0x3e0-0x3e1 irq 10 on isa0
  > >pcic0: management irq 13
  > >pccard0: <PC Card bus -- kludge version> on pcic0
  > >pccard1: <PC Card bus -- kludge version> on pcic0
  > 
  > You've even got it that way in your kernel:
  > 
  > ># Floating point support - do not disable.
  > >device		npx0	at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13
  > 
  > Maybe Warner can confirm if the message is in error, or this really happe
 ned 
  > as displayed.
  > 
  > I suspect pcic didn't like you suggestion of IRQ10, and somehow came up 
  > with 
  > this alternative.
  > 
  > HTH,
  > 
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I tried 11. It still picked 13 as the reported management irq.

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In message <003201c0d38c$d28222c0$4200a8c0@c2associates.net> "Kim C. Callis" writes:
: Well, the lock up is new with 4.3, but I was having a hell of a time getting
: my wavelan card to work... I think it might be a problem with the design of
: the Compaq... It seems to use a hell of a lot of IRQs...

With 4.3 release?  Or 4.3-stable?  Not much changed in 4.3 from 4.2,
but i merged a lot of stuff from current into stable just after 4.3
was released.

Warner

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In message <F240oHMwVN7miR9Odut00000330@hotmail.com> "Greg Smith" writes:
: The following seems a little odd to me, because I don't even think IRQ13 is 
: available (wired) on PCs.  It is the IRQ for npx, the FPU or numeric data 
: processor.
: 
: >pcic0: <VLSI 82C146> at port 0x3e0-0x3e1 irq 10 on isa0
: >pcic0: management irq 13
: >pccard0: <PC Card bus -- kludge version> on pcic0
: >pccard1: <PC Card bus -- kludge version> on pcic0

This usually is the result of having irq 10 listed in the config file, 
but actually used by something else, so the allocation returns the
next available one.

: Maybe Warner can confirm if the message is in error, or this really happened 
: as displayed.

good eyes.  I didn't notice this when I took a quick look at things.

: I suspect pcic didn't like you suggestion of IRQ10, and somehow came up with 
: this alternative.

I think that you might be right.

Warner

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In message <13236.988866532@apnic.net> George Michaelson writes:
: I tried 11. It still picked 13 as the reported management irq.

It would.  Attempting irq 10, and getting 13 means that 11 and 12 were 
in use.

Warner

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Subject: Memory stick slot on Sony Vaio Z600-HEK
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Hi all,

I'm trying to get a memory stick slot on a Sony Vaio Z600-HEK
working. I recompiled my kernel with pass, scsi disk da and usb 
support.

Looking in /var/log/messages after a boot, I see
pan /kernel da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
pan /kernel da0: <Sony MSC-U01N 1.00> Removable Direct Access SCSI-0
device
pan /kernel da0: 20KB/s transfers
pan /kernel da0 15MB (31680 512 byte sectors: 2H 9S/T 80C)

So it looks like the device is being detected. I just can't mount
it... I tried mount /dev/da0 /mnt
but that gave me an incorrect superblock entry. trying 
mount -t msdos /dev/da0 /mnt gives me
msdos: /dev/da0: Invalid argument

Can anyone tell me what I have to do to mount this beast? Thanks :)

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George,

I think the following message may have gotten lost in the ether, so I will 
try to recreate:

Some questions:

1)  Did you try the same setup under Windows to verify that it is OK?  If 
so, and it worked, you ought to print out the report from Device Manager and 
send it in.

2)  Did you try IRQ5?  It looks like you have a PCI sound card which has 
been put on IRQ10.  That is lucky, because it looks like IRQ5 is free.

3)  Did you try disabling USB in the BIOS, if possible?  It seems to be the 
only thing on IRQ 11.

HTH,

Greg

>uhci0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> port 0xfce0-0xfcff irq 11 
>at
>device 7.2 on pci0
>usb0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> on uhci0
>usb0: USB revision 1.0
>uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1
>uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered

>pcm0: <Crystal Semiconductor CS4281> mem 
>0xfedf0000-0xfedfffff,0xfedef000-0xfed
>effff irq 10 at device 8.0 on pci0

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Subject: Re: DELL Latitude 400 and pccard? 
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George Michaelson <ggm@apnic.net> wrote:

> I had the device working on a Compaq under 4.2, so the card is only known
> good in other hardware.

     Unfortunately, each laptop is different, and the reason why you
can't get it to work in the Dell is probably laptop/FreeBSD-specific.

> dmesg and kernel config attached...
     [ ... ]
> pcic0: <VLSI 82C146> at port 0x3e0-0x3e1 irq 10 on isa0
> pcic0: management irq 13

     Unfortunately, the above IRQs have got to match, in order for the
drivers to work (but there's another problem -- see below).

     Well, let's see what you have:

IRQ 0: (reserved, can't use) system timer
IRQ 1: (reserved, can't use) atkbd0 <AT keyboard>
IRQ 2: daisy-chain to IRQ 9
IRQ 3: pci0: <unknown card> (vendor=0x11c1, dev=0x0448)
       (This is an AT&T LT Winmodem 56K)
IRQ 4: sio0 (com1)
IRQ 5: 
IRQ 6: (reserved, can't use) floppy disk
IRQ 7: ppc0 <Parallel port>
IRQ 8: (reserved, can't use) RTC
IRQ 9: 
IRQ 10: pci1 <ATI Mobility-1 graphics accelerator>,
        pcic-pci0 <TI PCI-1410 PCI-CardBus Bridge>,
        pcic0 <VLSI 82C146>,
        pcm0 <Crystal Semiconductor CS4281>,
        xl0 <3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL>
IRQ 11: uhci0 <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller>
IRQ 12: psm0 <PS/2 Mouse>
IRQ 13: (reserved, can't use) FPU
IRQ 14: ata0 (hard disk)
IRQ 15: ata1

Urg -- there's a lot of junk on IRQ10.  IRQ 5 and 9 are unused, and IRQ
15 might be unused (I don't see a CDROM or additional hard disk
connected to it), if you got rid of the ata1 device.

[ Warner: can the pcic driver share IRQs, yet?  I believe older versions
  of FreeBSD can't, but what about 4.3?  ]

     If the pcic driver can't share IRQs, you're probably screwed
(assuming that the Dell BIOS doesn't allow you to specify/move the pcic
IRQ, which it probably doesn't, knowing Dell).

-- 
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	darrylo@soco.agilent.com

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Warner,

It is my understanding that IRQs 0, 1, 2, 8 & 13 are impossible to use 
because they are not wired on the motherboard.  And IRQs 6, 12 & 14 are very 
unlikely to be available.  That leaves IRQs 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10, 11 & 15 as 
reasonable candidates on a modern PC [ISA16, VGA, IDE].

Below is a portion of a mini-FAQ on PC resources I have been writing in my 
spare time:

IRQ 00 = System timer
IRQ 01 = Keyboard
IRQ 02 = Prog Int controller
IRQ 03 - Serial Port/Modem/IR (COM2) (COM4)
IRQ 04 - Serial Port/Modem/IR (COM1) (COM3)
IRQ 05 - Sound -OR- Parallel Port/Printer (LPT2)
IRQ 06 = Primary Floppy Controller
IRQ 07 - Parallel Port/Printer (LPT1)
IRQ 08 = System clock
IRQ 09 -
IRQ 10 -
IRQ 11 -
IRQ 12 = PS/2 Mouse
IRQ 13 = Numeric data processor
IRQ 14 = Primary IDE Controller
IRQ 15 - Secondary IDE Controller

Might I humbly suggest that when you print the "Management IRQ" message for 
a non-matching IRQ that you include a warning referring to the specific type 
of device which might be residing on the IRQ you select, since it is 
possible the IRQ appears to be available when it is not.  For example:

Management IRQ 15 assigned due to resource conflict
Verify IRQ 15 is not in use by Secondary IDE Controller

Greg

Context below:

>: The following seems a little odd to me, because I don't even think IRQ13 
>is
>: available (wired) on PCs.  It is the IRQ for npx, the FPU or numeric data
>: processor.
>
>This usually is the result of having irq 10 listed in the config file,
>but actually used by something else, so the allocation returns the
>next available one.

>: I suspect pcic didn't like your suggestion of IRQ10, and somehow came up 
>with
>: this alternative.
>
>I think that you might be right.

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In message <200105031513.IAA16973@mina.soco.agilent.com> Darryl Okahata writes:
: [ Warner: can the pcic driver share IRQs, yet?  I believe older versions
:   of FreeBSD can't, but what about 4.3?  ]

No.  It can't.  There's some hardware resons, as well as software
reasons for this.

Warner

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In message <F107dDW6lCPx33E1ioW00000a8c@hotmail.com> "Greg Smith" writes:
: Warner,
: 
: It is my understanding that IRQs 0, 1, 2, 8 & 13 are impossible to use 
: because they are not wired on the motherboard.  And IRQs 6, 12 & 14 are very 
: unlikely to be available.  That leaves IRQs 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10, 11 & 15 as 
: reasonable candidates on a modern PC [ISA16, VGA, IDE].
: 
: Below is a portion of a mini-FAQ on PC resources I have been writing in my 
: spare time:
: 
: IRQ 00 = System timer
: IRQ 01 = Keyboard
: IRQ 02 = Prog Int controller
: IRQ 03 - Serial Port/Modem/IR (COM2) (COM4)
: IRQ 04 - Serial Port/Modem/IR (COM1) (COM3)
: IRQ 05 - Sound -OR- Parallel Port/Printer (LPT2)
: IRQ 06 = Primary Floppy Controller
: IRQ 07 - Parallel Port/Printer (LPT1)
: IRQ 08 = System clock
: IRQ 09 -
: IRQ 10 -
: IRQ 11 -
: IRQ 12 = PS/2 Mouse
: IRQ 13 = Numeric data processor
: IRQ 14 = Primary IDE Controller
: IRQ 15 - Secondary IDE Controller
: 
: Might I humbly suggest that when you print the "Management IRQ" message for 
: a non-matching IRQ that you include a warning referring to the specific type 
: of device which might be residing on the IRQ you select, since it is 
: possible the IRQ appears to be available when it is not.  For example:
: 
: Management IRQ 15 assigned due to resource conflict
: Verify IRQ 15 is not in use by Secondary IDE Controller

I won't give the possible conflict, because there are too many
possibilities.  In 4.3-stable, I do check to make sure that you aren't
using an illegal irq as well as checking to make sure that the mgt irq
you requested is the one that you got.

Warner

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Wayne Pascoe wrote:
> 
> 4. Shutting down and powering off... What do I have to do to make
> shutdown -p turn off the power? I've included the apm line that was in
> GENERIC in my own kernel, but it doesn't work. When I shut down I get
> the message saying that the system has been shut down. Hit any key to
> reboot.
The default line in GENERIC about apm has the word 'disabled' in it.
Remove it and rebuild the kernel to actually enable it.
> 
> 5. Suspend to disk - There was no partition on the machine for this
> before I whacked Windows. Is there any way to do this on this machine?
I don't know exactly what to do with your laptop, but mine needs a
dos/windows partition and has a dos-utility to set it up.

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> Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 19:26:29 +0200
> From: Willem van Engen <wvengen@stack.nl>
> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG
> 
> Wayne Pascoe wrote:
> > 
> > 4. Shutting down and powering off... What do I have to do to make
> > shutdown -p turn off the power? I've included the apm line that was in
> > GENERIC in my own kernel, but it doesn't work. When I shut down I get
> > the message saying that the system has been shut down. Hit any key to
> > reboot.
> The default line in GENERIC about apm has the word 'disabled' in it.
> Remove it and rebuild the kernel to actually enable it.
If you don't want to rebuild the kernel, simply add the line:
en apm0
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I've tried to get the "ltmdm" driver at
	http://www.geocities.com/wtnbkysh/
running on my -current box, but something is not quite there yet,
there seems to be interrupt registration trouble and it as soon
as any significant number of characters are receivd the entire
machine hangs solid:

	AT
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	AT
	OK
	ATI3
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Anyone with more luck under -current ?


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Subject: Re: Memory stick slot on Sony Vaio Z600-HEK
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On Thu, May 03, 2001 at 09:42:42AM +0100, Wayne Pascoe wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I'm trying to get a memory stick slot on a Sony Vaio Z600-HEK
> working. I recompiled my kernel with pass, scsi disk da and usb 
> support.
> 
> Looking in /var/log/messages after a boot, I see
> pan /kernel da0 at umass-sim0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0
> pan /kernel da0: <Sony MSC-U01N 1.00> Removable Direct Access SCSI-0
> device
> pan /kernel da0: 20KB/s transfers
> pan /kernel da0 15MB (31680 512 byte sectors: 2H 9S/T 80C)
> 
> So it looks like the device is being detected. I just can't mount
> it... I tried mount /dev/da0 /mnt
> but that gave me an incorrect superblock entry. trying 
> mount -t msdos /dev/da0 /mnt gives me
> msdos: /dev/da0: Invalid argument
> 
> Can anyone tell me what I have to do to mount this beast? Thanks :)

Hmm, since it's recognised as a SCSI device, how about seeing whether
you can create a UFS on it, and *then* try mounting it?

Cheers.
-- 
Jonathan Chen <jonathan.chen@itouch.co.nz>
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> > msdos: /dev/da0: Invalid argument

What does "fdisk da0" say?  Maybe you want to mount /dev/da0s1?

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Richard Tobin wrote:
> > > msdos: /dev/da0: Invalid argument
>
> What does "fdisk da0" say?  Maybe you want to mount /dev/da0s1?
>
Correct, 'mkdir /mstick; mount_msdos /dev/da0s1 /mstick' is the ticket  
for memory sticks (replace /mstick with any other directory you would  
like as mount point).

Cool, I always wanted to know if my USB patches made those devices  
work on a Vaio.

Gerd

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I didn't find answers to these, so if anyone knows:

-> I have compiled kernel a lot of times, but when I isolated atadisk
(new disks) from ata0 (old disks) or the other way, my root fs didn't
mount. Not atadisk+ata nor ata0+ata. It must have both compiled ! 

# ATA and ATAPI devices
device          ata0    at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14
device          ata1    at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15
device          ata
device          atadisk                 # ATA disk drives
device          atapicd                 # ATAPI CDROM drives
options         ATA_STATIC_ID           #Static device numbering
options         ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA    #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices

Whats the problem for not accept the new ata+atadisk interface only ?



-> The same thing happened with my cards (thanks Greg) that only
compiles with

#device          pccard
#device         cardbus
device          card
device          pcic0   at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000
#device         pcic1   at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000
options         PCIC_RESUME_RESET       # reset after resume

If I use pccard, why the kernel denys with errors when compiling if I
activate pccard device ?
Worst ... how my cards are working ?!



-> Everytime I connect to my ISP with 'dial -background ISP', and if I
pause a few minutes, my connection drops.
What's the problem with ppp ?



My Toshiba 310CDS with 4.2R is almost working right.
I just want to understand what's happening and learn more about FreeBSD.


Thanks !


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  > 
  > 1)  Did you try the same setup under Windows to verify that it is OK?  If
    > so, and it worked, you ought to print out the report from Device Manager
  > and  send it in.

Will try to asap. No, I didn't do this beyond the trivial non-hang case test.

  > 
  > 2)  Did you try IRQ5?  It looks like you have a PCI sound card which has 
  > been put on IRQ10.  That is lucky, because it looks like IRQ5 is free.

Yes, I tried this and it works in as much as I now get pcic working, pc card
insertion works (and removal) I get no hangs, but I still get (NULL) (NULL)
card recognition and I don't think I understand (yet) how to get a free irq
or make a free irq on this box, so I can allocate it to the pccard under the
pcic controller now on 5. 5 is one of the irqs that pccard.conf tries to use
to allocate to its 'children' so I assume I now have to (a) override that
in the /etc/pccard.conf and (b) find another one to use..
  > 
  > 3)  Did you try disabling USB in the BIOS, if possible?  It seems to be 
the
  > only thing on IRQ 11.

Ok. Thats worth persuing. I've nver used USB, so I don't mind doing without it
but it does beg the question: what does somebody who NEEDS usb do, if they
also need to use pcmcia? How does windeath manage this?

  > 
  > HTH,

Very much so. Thanks for the feedback.

cheers
	-George

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  > George Michaelson <ggm@apnic.net> wrote:
  > 
  > > I had the device working on a Compaq under 4.2, so the card is only kno
 wn
  > > good in other hardware.
  > 
  >      Unfortunately, each laptop is different, and the reason why you
  > can't get it to work in the Dell is probably laptop/FreeBSD-specific.
  > 

I am learning this the hard way!

  > > dmesg and kernel config attached...
  >      [ ... ]
  > > pcic0: <VLSI 82C146> at port 0x3e0-0x3e1 irq 10 on isa0
  > > pcic0: management irq 13
  > 
  >      Unfortunately, the above IRQs have got to match, in order for the
  > drivers to work (but there's another problem -- see below).

Noted. At the level of trivial debug, if somebody sees this, its a pretty
big clue things aren't going to work.

  >      Well, let's see what you have:
  > 
  > IRQ 0: (reserved, can't use) system timer
  > IRQ 1: (reserved, can't use) atkbd0 <AT keyboard>
  > IRQ 2: daisy-chain to IRQ 9
  > IRQ 3: pci0: <unknown card> (vendor=0x11c1, dev=0x0448)
  >        (This is an AT&T LT Winmodem 56K)
  > IRQ 4: sio0 (com1)
  > IRQ 5: 

Took it, applied in CONFIG file, pcic now happy but...

  > IRQ 6: (reserved, can't use) floppy disk
  > IRQ 7: ppc0 <Parallel port>
  > IRQ 8: (reserved, can't use) RTC
  > IRQ 9: 

Can I use this for daughter cards in the slot as their IRQ to probe on?

  > IRQ 10: pci1 <ATI Mobility-1 graphics accelerator>,
  >         pcic-pci0 <TI PCI-1410 PCI-CardBus Bridge>,
  >         pcic0 <VLSI 82C146>,
  >         pcm0 <Crystal Semiconductor CS4281>,
  >         xl0 <3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL>
  > IRQ 11: uhci0 <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller>

I've been recommended to try and disable this, to free it up for cards. Or,
I guess, to assign to pcic and leave irq 5 Free for daughter cards to use.

Thats fine for *me* because I don't use USB. But for others, it might be
problematic.

  > IRQ 12: psm0 <PS/2 Mouse>
  > IRQ 13: (reserved, can't use) FPU
  > IRQ 14: ata0 (hard disk)
  > IRQ 15: ata1

Do I have an ATA1 I wonder. Can I disable it? Why would a laptop depend on
using the alternate chain? It could be for the non-attached/removable CD
player of course. (DELL do a carrier tray for a cable-attached floppy or
CD. I will reboot with one attached and see what it does)

  >
 
  > Urg -- there's a lot of junk on IRQ10.  IRQ 5 and 9 are unused, and IRQ
  > 15 might be unused (I don't see a CDROM or additional hard disk
  > connected to it), if you got rid of the ata1 device.
  > 

I'll try that in the various mixes of changes.


Many thanks for the information. Very helpfuL!

cheers
	-George

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George Michaelson <ggm@apnic.net> wrote:

> Took it, applied in CONFIG file, pcic now happy but...

     ... but do you know if the pcic device is actually *working*?
Sometimes, it's possible to make FreeBSD output the same IRQs in dmesg,
but the device still won't work (often because the BIOS has locked the
IRQ to, say, IRQ 10).

>   > IRQ 9: 
> 
> Can I use this for daughter cards in the slot as their IRQ to probe on?

     Depends.  Some devices work with IRQ 9, and others don't.  I think
people have reported that the Wavelan card can use IRQ 9 (on older
versions of FreeBSD, though).

>   > IRQ 11: uhci0 <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller>
> 
> I've been recommended to try and disable this, to free it up for cards. Or,
> I guess, to assign to pcic and leave irq 5 Free for daughter cards to use.
> 
> Thats fine for *me* because I don't use USB. But for others, it might be
> problematic.

     At this point, I think you need to make sure that the pcic device
is working; you don't need any more free IRQs at the moment.  You've
already got a free IRQ (5 or 9) to use for the Wavelan card, and you can
always free up more, later, if you need more (but you don't, if all you
want to use is the Wavelan card).

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George Michaelson <ggm@apnic.net> wrote:

> Yes, I tried this and it works in as much as I now get pcic working, pc card
> insertion works (and removal) I get no hangs, but I still get (NULL) (NULL)
> card recognition and I don't think I understand (yet) how to get a free irq
> or make a free irq on this box, so I can allocate it to the pccard under the
> pcic controller now on 5. 5 is one of the irqs that pccard.conf tries to use
> to allocate to its 'children' so I assume I now have to (a) override that
> in the /etc/pccard.conf and (b) find another one to use..

     If you're getting insertion and removal messages, that's a good
sign.  You may have gotten over the IRQ hump.

     The "(NULL) (NULL)" messages may be due to a pcic memory conflict.
What does "pccardc dumpcis" display?  If you get messages like "code XXX
ignored", where "XXX" is a number, then you may have a memory conflict.

> Ok. Thats worth persuing. I've nver used USB, so I don't mind doing without i
> t
> but it does beg the question: what does somebody who NEEDS usb do, if they
> also need to use pcmcia? How does windeath manage this?

     In theory, PCI devices can share IRQs.  In practice (in FreeBSD),
it depends.  The FreeBSD 4.X pcic device is, alas, special in that it
cannot share IRQs (Warner just verified this).  With luck, the USB
device can share IRQs (but I don't know this for a fact).

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To: Darryl Okahata <darrylo@soco.agilent.com>
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Subject: Re: DELL Latitude 400 and pccard? 
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  > > 
  > > Can I use this for daughter cards in the slot as their IRQ to probe on?
  > 
  >      Depends.  Some devices work with IRQ 9, and others don't.  I think
  > people have reported that the Wavelan card can use IRQ 9 (on older
  > versions of FreeBSD, though).

well, I tried pccardc enabler 0 wi0 -i 9 and it kernel panicked.. twice.
I also tried 3, after disabling the sio1 and winmodem stuff. And I removed
this, and the LPT, and removed any references to 3/7 in my kernel. So my
free set is now 3 7 9. I don't see "5" as free since its what I'm using
for the pcic pcard0 pcard1 suite of entries in my kernel config.

  >      At this point, I think you need to make sure that the pcic device
  > is working; you don't need any more free IRQs at the moment.  You've
  > already got a free IRQ (5 or 9) to use for the Wavelan card, and you can
  > always free up more, later, if you need more (but you don't, if all you
  > want to use is the Wavelan card).

If I'm using irq 5 for the pcic, can I still use it inside the pccard framework
for the daughter cards? 

If I have 3/5/7/9 notionally free, and am compiling a kernel, which is
the best bet to pick for pcic, or do I leave it as irq? and let the kernel
decide?

cheers
	-George
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To: Darryl Okahata <darrylo@soco.agilent.com>
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Subject: Re: DELL Latitude 400 and pccard? 
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  >      If you're getting insertion and removal messages, that's a good
  > sign.  You may have gotten over the IRQ hump.

Ok. I think I'm over part of it.

  > 
  >      The "(NULL) (NULL)" messages may be due to a pcic memory conflict.
  > What does "pccardc dumpcis" display?  If you get messages like "code XXX
  > ignored", where "XXX" is a number, then you may have a memory conflict.

it dumps core but I see a large number of ignored messages before it does.

  >      In theory, PCI devices can share IRQs.  In practice (in FreeBSD),
  > it depends.  The FreeBSD 4.X pcic device is, alas, special in that it
  > cannot share IRQs (Warner just verified this).  With luck, the USB
  > device can share IRQs (but I don't know this for a fact).

Its on 11. Or are you saying that it too will allocate daughter irq to
attached devices, and I need to be careful about the 3/5/7/9 set which I
now depend on as my 'pool' for non-wired things?

What do I try to clear up the mem conflicts for pcic next? I'm tempted
to try leaving it to the kernel to find these and not wire it to 5, but
I fear it will bounce back into PIO mode and I'll be back on freezes

(My guess is that Windows uses PIO, and is able to avoid this whole mess)

cheers
	-George

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Subject: Re: DELL Latitude 400 and pccard? 
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  >      The "(NULL) (NULL)" messages may be due to a pcic memory conflict.
  > What does "pccardc dumpcis" display?  If you get messages like "code XXX
  > ignored", where "XXX" is a number, then you may have a memory conflict.

fixing the core dump seemed trivial. it doesn't test for null pointer
in a critical part of decoding the data in printcis.c .

dump_cis_config() just needs to check if p = tp->data is NULL and then
protect the whole body of the procedure by  {...} to avoid the problem.

Having done that, the pccardc dumpcis for this setup is as attached.

cheers
	-George

Code 85 not found
Code 85 not found
code Unknown ignored
Code 240 not found
Code 240 not found
code Unknown ignored
Code 112 not found
Code 112 not found
code Unknown ignored
Code 116 not found
Code 116 not found
code Unknown ignored
Code 60 not found
Code 60 not found
code Unknown ignored
Code 139 not found
Code 139 not found
code Unknown ignored
Code 192 not found
Code 192 not found
code Unknown ignored
Code 14 not found
Code 14 not found
code Unknown ignored
Code 14 not found
Code 14 not found
code Unknown ignored
Code 54 not found
Code 54 not found
code Unknown ignored
Code 54 not found
Code 54 not found
code Unknown ignored
Code 162 not found
Code 162 not found
code Unknown ignored
Code 192 not found
Code 192 not found
code Unknown ignored
Configuration data for card in slot 0
Tuple #1, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 4
    000:  cf 55 44 05
Tuple #2, code = 0x5 (Configuration entry for CardBus), length = 0
Tuple #3, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 0
Tuple #4, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 88
    000:  38 6d 30 00 00 e8 10 c0 00 68 68 ff 70 00 00 24
    010:  6e 01 00 00 00 00 c3 c8 02 00 00 00 49 00 00 50
    020:  49 b7 00 00 18 00 00 73 00 00 00 55 44 16 00 01
    030:  dc 00 38 a0 50 49 4d 41 32 00 00 00 83 43 6d 31
    040:  2f 30 20 74 65 6e 74 4e 43 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    050:  00 00 00 00 00 43 6d 4e
Tuple #5, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 111
    000:  6b 42 6f 00 00 00 00 00 29 00 00 00 00 00 00 19
    010:  45 72 72 20 61 27 20 69 64 42 73 20 6f 65 20 6e
    020:  62 65 42 73 20 6f 65 6f 20 49 0d 00 72 6f 3a 42
    030:  64 55 44 20 6d 67 0d 00 57 c0 02 47 fa e0 59 be
    040:  c8 db c6 81 55 75 26 7f 00 1d 8b 16 26 05 3b 75
    050:  33 26 4d e8 ff c0 03 eb 81 80 81 00 72 f8 50 b4
    060:  32 cd 5b c3 8a c0 04 30 39 02 07 e4 8a 24 04
Tuple #6, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 118
    000:  04 e8 ff c3 fc 0a 74 e8 ff f6 cb 51 80 21 00 28
    010:  e0 c1 b0 e8 ff e0 b7 b0 e8 ff 0a a2 2e 06 00 74
    020:  be f0 e8 00 5e b4 cd c3 10 16 e8 ff 05 f3 eb c3
    030:  57 53 52 c0 c0 6c 66 8b e8 ff d4 74 e8 ff 0d 26
    040:  15 2b 3b 73 eb 66 66 5f cb ab 2c b9 00 a4 70 ab
    050:  c8 c3 8b 83 fa 3e 00 75 eb 89 fa 66 42 53 e8 fe
    060:  73 8c fe 8b 16 26 44 89 fc 57 76 16 e8 ff 5e 8b
    070:  5d 55 ec c4 8c ee
Tuple #7, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 22
    000:  26 45 89 ec 7e b8 00 a3 16 8d f0 89 16 7e 57 5e
    010:  8d f0 c0 8b 8b 5d
Tuple #8, code = 0x1e (Geometry info for common memory), length = 14
    000:  a0 00 80 c0 19 03 04 e8 fe c8 f0 c1 04 c3
	width = 160, erase = 0x80000000, read = 0x80000000, write = 0x80000000
		partition = 0x1000000, interleave = 0x4
	width = 160, erase = 0x80000000, read = 0x80000000, write = 0x80000000
		partition = 0x1000000, interleave = 0x4
Tuple #9, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 162
    000:  eb b4 b0 0e cb 66 24 43 e8 fe 05 8a eb be 00 e8
    010:  fe 5a 0e f7 07 c3 06 50 1f 00 80 e0 00 09 a1 00
    020:  26 60 80 e1 00 09 a1 00 26 64 66 07 c3 03 01 e8
    030:  fe 78 cb 03 02 e8 fe bb e8 ff b4 b0 0e 59 e8 ff
    040:  5a cd cf 06 56 0e 80 37 00 0f f3 b4 b0 0e 37 33
    050:  eb 66 e6 ff 00 81 ff 00 41 e9 83 ea 00 28 a1 00
    060:  03 66 db c3 c1 04 03 66 f0 8b e8 01 06 01 e8 fd
    070:  c0 03 ff 59 5f 1f 55 ec c4 1e 0e b4 b0 0e d7 c4
    080:  06 c7 c6 26 45 89 fc 89 12 89 16 8b 0c 46 26 45
    090:  89 fe 46 33 8b 80 8b 22 8b fe e8 ff c0 03 4e 8e
    0a0:  fa ff
Tuple #10, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 0
Tuple #11, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 0
Tuple #12, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 0
Tuple #13, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 0
Tuple #14, code = 0x46 (Organization), length = 14
    000:  2b 0b 74 e9 01 46 33 bb 00 f3 26 3d 50 45
	Reserved [té
F3ť]
Tuple #15, code = 0x7 (Base address register for CardBus), length = 251
    000:  75 8b 66 81 50 45 75 26 7d 56 75 83 01 02 f7 c7
    010:  3b 80 72 83 01 05 fe 75 e9 00 7e 26 5d 26 75 8e
    020:  fc fe c0 89 0c 46 26 45 a1 00 89 22 46 26 45 a1
    030:  00 89 26 46 26 45 26 45 00 c9 8a 08 5b 26 65 8b
    040:  26 45 70 26 4d 8b fc 89 12 26 7d 00 04 89 14 46
    050:  26 45 66 ff 00 66 e0 66 89 2a 7e 26 45 8b fc 89
    060:  30 89 38 25 ff 00 c1 04 26 45 66 89 3a 80 26 45
    070:  26 45 26 45 00 c9 8a 04 e3 26 65 c4 06 c7 00 c7
    080:  fe 00 05 02 e8 fc 46 07 8b 5d be 01 e8 fc 00 0e
    090:  85 c7 fe 00 da 8b 66 df 00 07 33 26 44 ff 26 44
    0a0:  ff 26 44 93 c6 1d 26 44 01 c6 1e 26 44 66 e8 26
    0b0:  44 26 64 26 5c 66 eb 26 5c 26 7c b4 cd c3 8b 2e
    0c0:  c0 8b 2e c0 55 75 00 42 44 01 05 00 00 b7 00 45
    0d0:  0f 00 c5 00 00 f0 e0 00 45 72 72 20 61 20 61 65
    0e0:  43 64 20 6d 67 0d 00 42 24 33 00 02 00 08 00 ac
    0f0:  8b 1e c5 06 f0 07 00 b9 00 f3 2e
	BAR 5: size = 1109Mb, I/O, Prefetch, Cacheable
Tuple #16, code = 0x21 (Functional ID), length = 170
    000:  a0 00 0e b4 b0 ff 1c 68 40 33 8b 24 8b 22 ff 02
    010:  0b 74 eb 66 81 02 43 43 02 21 f0 07 3e 00 00 00
    020:  0e 0b 75 6a 6a 5f ab 00 ff eb be 00 1e 00 00 ff
    030:  18 b4 b0 ff 1c b8 00 1f cb a4 60 06 1f 2c 89 2e
    040:  89 30 89 32 8c 34 e8 01 c0 0a 0e 00 80 92 03 b1
    050:  a2 00 0e 00 e8 01 c0 05 0e 00 e8 01 c0 05 0e 00
    060:  e8 01 c0 c7 05 0e 00 b4 a0 00 e8 fa 07 d4 fc c0
    070:  2d b3 f6 0a 74 04 aa e8 eb eb 8a 04 aa 05 be 00
    080:  a4 c0 2c c1 03 0a f3 c0 0a 30 c1 08 f0 05 c4 30
    090:  b0 aa 00 e8 03 82 2a 0e 31 e8 02 83 36 0e 25 e8
    0a0:  02 84 e0 0e 19 b4 a0 00 e8 fa
	Unknown function
Tuple #17, code = 0x6 (Long link to next chain for MFC), length = 5
    000:  03 0e 05 06 06
	Wrong length for long link MFC tuple
Tuple #18, code = 0x1 (Common memory descriptor), length = 14
    000:  06 06 06 02 0e 06 06 06 01 0e 06 92 24 0c
	Common memory device information:
		Device number 1, type No device, WPS = OFF
		Speed = Reserved, Memory block size = 2Mb, 1 units
		Device number 2, type No device, WPS = OFF
		Speed = Reserved, Memory block size = 8Kb, 1 units
		Device number 3, type No device, WPS = ON
		Speed = Reserved, Memory block size = 2Mb, 1 units
		Device number 4, type No device, WPS = OFF
		Speed = Reserved, Memory block size = 2Mb, 1 units
		Device number 5, type No device, WPS = OFF
		Speed = 250nS, Memory block size = 2Mb, 2 units
		Device number 6, type No device, WPS = OFF
		Speed = Reserved, Memory block size = 8Kb, 19 units
		Device number 7, type OTPROM, WPS = OFF
		Speed = 100nS, Memory block size = 128Kb, 2 units
Tuple #19, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 5
    000:  21 a2 06 e4 66
Tuple #20, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 19
    000:  06 00 66 ea b4 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
    010:  ff ff ff
Code 85 not found
Code 85 not found
code Unknown ignored
Code 240 not found
Code 240 not found
code Unknown ignored
Code 112 not found
Code 112 not found
code Unknown ignored
Code 116 not found
Code 116 not found
code Unknown ignored
Code 60 not found
Code 60 not found
code Unknown ignored
Code 139 not found
Code 139 not found
code Unknown ignored
Code 192 not found
Code 192 not found
code Unknown ignored
Code 14 not found
Code 14 not found
code Unknown ignored
Code 14 not found
Code 14 not found
code Unknown ignored
Code 54 not found
Code 54 not found
code Unknown ignored
Code 54 not found
Code 54 not found
code Unknown ignored
Code 162 not found
Code 162 not found
code Unknown ignored
Code 192 not found
Code 192 not found
code Unknown ignored
Configuration data for card in slot 1
Tuple #1, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 4
    000:  cf 55 44 05
Tuple #2, code = 0x5 (Configuration entry for CardBus), length = 0
Tuple #3, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 0
Tuple #4, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 88
    000:  38 6d 30 00 00 e8 10 c0 00 68 68 ff 70 00 00 24
    010:  6e 01 00 00 00 00 c3 c8 02 00 00 00 49 00 00 50
    020:  49 b7 00 00 18 00 00 73 00 00 00 55 44 16 00 01
    030:  dc 00 38 a0 50 49 4d 41 32 00 00 00 83 43 6d 31
    040:  2f 30 20 74 65 6e 74 4e 43 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    050:  00 00 00 00 00 43 6d 4e
Tuple #5, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 111
    000:  6b 42 6f 00 00 00 00 00 29 00 00 00 00 00 00 19
    010:  45 72 72 20 61 27 20 69 64 42 73 20 6f 65 20 6e
    020:  62 65 42 73 20 6f 65 6f 20 49 0d 00 72 6f 3a 42
    030:  64 55 44 20 6d 67 0d 00 57 c0 02 47 fa e0 59 be
    040:  c8 db c6 81 55 75 26 7f 00 1d 8b 16 26 05 3b 75
    050:  33 26 4d e8 ff c0 03 eb 81 80 81 00 72 f8 50 b4
    060:  32 cd 5b c3 8a c0 04 30 39 02 07 e4 8a 24 04
Tuple #6, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 118
    000:  04 e8 ff c3 fc 0a 74 e8 ff f6 cb 51 80 21 00 28
    010:  e0 c1 b0 e8 ff e0 b7 b0 e8 ff 0a a2 2e 06 00 74
    020:  be f0 e8 00 5e b4 cd c3 10 16 e8 ff 05 f3 eb c3
    030:  57 53 52 c0 c0 6c 66 8b e8 ff d4 74 e8 ff 0d 26
    040:  15 2b 3b 73 eb 66 66 5f cb ab 2c b9 00 a4 70 ab
    050:  c8 c3 8b 83 fa 3e 00 75 eb 89 fa 66 42 53 e8 fe
    060:  73 8c fe 8b 16 26 44 89 fc 57 76 16 e8 ff 5e 8b
    070:  5d 55 ec c4 8c ee
Tuple #7, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 22
    000:  26 45 89 ec 7e b8 00 a3 16 8d f0 89 16 7e 57 5e
    010:  8d f0 c0 8b 8b 5d
Tuple #8, code = 0x1e (Geometry info for common memory), length = 14
    000:  a0 00 80 c0 19 03 04 e8 fe c8 f0 c1 04 c3
	width = 160, erase = 0x80000000, read = 0x80000000, write = 0x80000000
		partition = 0x1000000, interleave = 0x4
	width = 160, erase = 0x80000000, read = 0x80000000, write = 0x80000000
		partition = 0x1000000, interleave = 0x4
Tuple #9, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 162
    000:  eb b4 b0 0e cb 66 24 43 e8 fe 05 8a eb be 00 e8
    010:  fe 5a 0e f7 07 c3 06 50 1f 00 80 e0 00 09 a1 00
    020:  26 60 80 e1 00 09 a1 00 26 64 66 07 c3 03 01 e8
    030:  fe 78 cb 03 02 e8 fe bb e8 ff b4 b0 0e 59 e8 ff
    040:  5a cd cf 06 56 0e 80 37 00 0f f3 b4 b0 0e 37 33
    050:  eb 66 e6 ff 00 81 ff 00 41 e9 83 ea 00 28 a1 00
    060:  03 66 db c3 c1 04 03 66 f0 8b e8 01 06 01 e8 fd
    070:  c0 03 ff 59 5f 1f 55 ec c4 1e 0e b4 b0 0e d7 c4
    080:  06 c7 c6 26 45 89 fc 89 12 89 16 8b 0c 46 26 45
    090:  89 fe 46 33 8b 80 8b 22 8b fe e8 ff c0 03 4e 8e
    0a0:  fa ff
Tuple #10, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 0
Tuple #11, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 0
Tuple #12, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 0
Tuple #13, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 0
Tuple #14, code = 0x46 (Organization), length = 14
    000:  2b 0b 74 e9 01 46 33 bb 00 f3 26 3d 50 45
	Reserved [té
F3ť]
Tuple #15, code = 0x7 (Base address register for CardBus), length = 251
    000:  75 8b 66 81 50 45 75 26 7d 56 75 83 01 02 f7 c7
    010:  3b 80 72 83 01 05 fe 75 e9 00 7e 26 5d 26 75 8e
    020:  fc fe c0 89 0c 46 26 45 a1 00 89 22 46 26 45 a1
    030:  00 89 26 46 26 45 26 45 00 c9 8a 08 5b 26 65 8b
    040:  26 45 70 26 4d 8b fc 89 12 26 7d 00 04 89 14 46
    050:  26 45 66 ff 00 66 e0 66 89 2a 7e 26 45 8b fc 89
    060:  30 89 38 25 ff 00 c1 04 26 45 66 89 3a 80 26 45
    070:  26 45 26 45 00 c9 8a 04 e3 26 65 c4 06 c7 00 c7
    080:  fe 00 05 02 e8 fc 46 07 8b 5d be 01 e8 fc 00 0e
    090:  85 c7 fe 00 da 8b 66 df 00 07 33 26 44 ff 26 44
    0a0:  ff 26 44 93 c6 1d 26 44 01 c6 1e 26 44 66 e8 26
    0b0:  44 26 64 26 5c 66 eb 26 5c 26 7c b4 cd c3 8b 2e
    0c0:  c0 8b 2e c0 55 75 00 42 44 01 05 00 00 b7 00 45
    0d0:  0f 00 c5 00 00 f0 e0 00 45 72 72 20 61 20 61 65
    0e0:  43 64 20 6d 67 0d 00 42 24 33 00 02 00 08 00 ac
    0f0:  8b 1e c5 06 f0 07 00 b9 00 f3 2e
	BAR 5: size = 1109Mb, I/O, Prefetch, Cacheable
Tuple #16, code = 0x21 (Functional ID), length = 170
    000:  a0 00 0e b4 b0 ff 1c 68 40 33 8b 24 8b 22 ff 02
    010:  0b 74 eb 66 81 02 43 43 02 21 f0 07 3e 00 00 00
    020:  0e 0b 75 6a 6a 5f ab 00 ff eb be 00 1e 00 00 ff
    030:  18 b4 b0 ff 1c b8 00 1f cb a4 60 06 1f 2c 89 2e
    040:  89 30 89 32 8c 34 e8 01 c0 0a 0e 00 80 92 03 b1
    050:  a2 00 0e 00 e8 01 c0 05 0e 00 e8 01 c0 05 0e 00
    060:  e8 01 c0 c7 05 0e 00 b4 a0 00 e8 fa 07 d4 fc c0
    070:  2d b3 f6 0a 74 04 aa e8 eb eb 8a 04 aa 05 be 00
    080:  a4 c0 2c c1 03 0a f3 c0 0a 30 c1 08 f0 05 c4 30
    090:  b0 aa 00 e8 03 82 2a 0e 31 e8 02 83 36 0e 25 e8
    0a0:  02 84 e0 0e 19 b4 a0 00 e8 fa
	Unknown function
Tuple #17, code = 0x6 (Long link to next chain for MFC), length = 5
    000:  03 0e 05 06 06
	Wrong length for long link MFC tuple
Tuple #18, code = 0x1 (Common memory descriptor), length = 14
    000:  06 06 06 02 0e 06 06 06 01 0e 06 92 24 0c
	Common memory device information:
		Device number 1, type No device, WPS = OFF
		Speed = Reserved, Memory block size = 2Mb, 1 units
		Device number 2, type No device, WPS = OFF
		Speed = Reserved, Memory block size = 8Kb, 1 units
		Device number 3, type No device, WPS = ON
		Speed = Reserved, Memory block size = 2Mb, 1 units
		Device number 4, type No device, WPS = OFF
		Speed = Reserved, Memory block size = 2Mb, 1 units
		Device number 5, type No device, WPS = OFF
		Speed = 250nS, Memory block size = 2Mb, 2 units
		Device number 6, type No device, WPS = OFF
		Speed = Reserved, Memory block size = 8Kb, 19 units
		Device number 7, type OTPROM, WPS = OFF
		Speed = 100nS, Memory block size = 128Kb, 2 units
Tuple #19, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 5
    000:  21 a2 06 e4 66
Tuple #20, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 19
    000:  06 00 66 ea b4 ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff ff
    010:  ff ff ff
2 slots found

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George,

>What do I try to clear up the mem conflicts for pcic next? I'm tempted
>to try leaving it to the kernel to find these and not wire it to 5, but

There are two memory addresses associated with pccard.  One seems to be the 
address used by the controller, and the other to be the address used by an 
inserted card.

/etc/rc.conf (overriding /etc/defaults/rc.conf)
pccard_mem=0xd8000

default is 0xd0000, which is great if no other devices on the PC decide to 
use this memory area.  0xd8000 leaves some headroom for those other devices. 
  This seems to be the controller address.

/etc/pccard.conf (overriding /etc/defaults/pccard.conf)
memory 0xdc000 64k

default is 0xd4000 96 (I just made this new value up, since the default is 
0x4000 more than the previous default)  This seems to be the card address.

These are the values you have to play with.  And thankfully, you can keep 
changing them without recompiling the kernel.  Although you may need to 
recompile once to remove an existing "iomem" specification for pcic.

No need to change an IRQ to test this.  The values are independent.

Good luck,

Greg

P.S.  Did you try Windows yet?  That may shed some light on special memory 
addresses needed.  It was what got my first FreeBSD laptop going, due to the 
pccard controller using an odd port address.  At the least it will be 
informative.

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I just tried windows. The card works perfectly.

the entries I get are:

	PCIC: 	  IRQ 10 1080 - 10BF 10000000 - 10000FFF
	Orinoco:  IRQ  5 1080 - 10BF <nothing>


I am currently sitting in FreeBSD with the PCIC on irq 3:

pcic0: <VLSI 82C146> at port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 irq 3 on isa0

When I try and use pccardc enabler 0 wi0 -i 5 it freezes.

My guess is that I need to take the W98 info above, and either stuff it
into kernel or (hopefully) modify /etc/pccard.conf to override defaults
and avoid conflicts.

I'm sorry to admit I don't entirely understand how to interpret your
suggestions to edit pccard.conf in this light (thickness on my part)

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Hello,

After much pain and suffering from my qwest to find a perfect FreeBSD laptop, 
I decided to ask mobile for some help:

I am looking for a laptop that has following specs:

 * 13.3 TFT,1024x768 (16bpp) or better
 * 16-bit sound 
 * Video RAM: 8+ Mb
 * working modem (non-winmodem)
 * 500+ Mhz CPU
 * up to 256MB RAM or more
 * 10+ Gb HDD or more
 * with an option of DVD drive

I don't care how much it costs. If you know the manufacturer that makes a 
laptop close to these figures, please let me know.

Thank you very much,

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George Michaelson <ggm@apnic.net> wrote:

> Code 85 not found
     [ ... ]
> Tuple #1, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 4
>     000:  cf 55 44 05
> Tuple #2, code = 0x5 (Configuration entry for CardBus), length = 0
> Tuple #3, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 0
> Tuple #4, code = 0x0 (Null tuple), length = 88
>     000:  38 6d 30 00 00 e8 10 c0 00 68 68 ff 70 00 00 24
>     010:  6e 01 00 00 00 00 c3 c8 02 00 00 00 49 00 00 50
>     020:  49 b7 00 00 18 00 00 73 00 00 00 55 44 16 00 01
>     030:  dc 00 38 a0 50 49 4d 41 32 00 00 00 83 43 6d 31
>     040:  2f 30 20 74 65 6e 74 4e 43 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
>     050:  00 00 00 00 00 43 6d 4e

     Yeah, this is garbage -- I'd be willing to bet that it's definitely
a memory conflict.  In your kernel config, try specifying different
values for the pcic iomem, like:

	device		pcic0	at isa? irq 10 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000

or:

	device		pcic0	at isa? irq 10 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd4000

(Use 16K boundaries for iomem; values to try include 0xd0000, 0xd4000,
0xd8000, and 0xdc000.)

[ For that matter, I notice that you didn't specify a value for iomem in
  your kernel config.  I wonder what the pcic driver uses, in that case?
  0xd0000???  ]

Note that, if you change iomem, you must also edit /etc/rc.conf
(pccard_mem) to reflect that fact.  The values for iomem and pccard_mem
in /etc/rc.conf must match.  If you edit rc.conf, I think you have to
reboot.

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George Michaelson <ggm@apnic.net> wrote:

> well, I tried pccardc enabler 0 wi0 -i 9 and it kernel panicked.. twice.

     You shouldn't have to enable it.  If you insert the card, it's
often automatically recognized and assigned a (free) IRQ from the list
in /etc/pccard.conf (make sure this list is correct).  It may take a
second for the insertion to be recognized, and another few seconds (up
to 10 or so?) to fully assign resources (driver, port, IRQ, etc.).  If
the insertion is not automatically recognized, you might have to
manually turn on the power to the slot, using something like "pccardc
power 0 1" (see the pccardc man page for more details).

     I imagine IRQ 9 should work, but IRQ 3 should work, too (I'm using
IRQ 3).

> I also tried 3, after disabling the sio1 and winmodem stuff. And I removed
> this, and the LPT, and removed any references to 3/7 in my kernel. So my
> free set is now 3 7 9. I don't see "5" as free since its what I'm using
> for the pcic pcard0 pcard1 suite of entries in my kernel config.

     Be careful.  Just because you "disabled" the device in FreeBSD, it
does not necessarily mean that the device is really disabled.  Usually,
it's the BIOS that determines whether a device is enabled or not;
changing the FreeBSD kernel config merely controls whether or not
FreeBSD can access the (enabled by the BIOS) device.  If the device is
enabled by the BIOS, it's still possible for the enabled device to cause
problems with the FreeBSD driver code.

     If your BIOS lets you, try going into the BIOS and disabling
unneeded devices.

> If I'm using irq 5 for the pcic, can I still use it inside the pccard framewo
> rk
> for the daughter cards? 

     No.  If the pcic uses an IRQ (as opposed to polling mode), that IRQ
is for the exclusive use of the pcic, and cannot be used by any cards
you plug into the PCMCIA slot(s).  Note that the PCMCIA card resources
(IRQs, etc.) are controlled by /etc/pccard.conf.

> If I have 3/5/7/9 notionally free, and am compiling a kernel, which is
> the best bet to pick for pcic, or do I leave it as irq? and let the kernel
> decide?

     I suspect the answer is laptop-dependent.  With my Inspiron 7500,
I'm lucky and can leave the pcic IRQ hard-coded at IRQ 10.  Personally,
I'd try hard-coding the IRQ values.

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In article <719.988919280@critter>,
Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@freebsd.org> wrote:

> I've tried to get the "ltmdm" driver at
>         http://www.geocities.com/wtnbkysh/
> running on my -current box, but something is not quite there yet,
> there seems to be interrupt registration trouble and it as soon
> as any significant number of characters are receivd the entire
> machine hangs solid:
> 
>         AT
>         OK
>         AT
>         OK
>         ATI3
> (hang)
> 
> Anyone with more luck under -current ?

Get ltmdmsio.c-untested3-fbsd-5-current.tar.gz
from http://www.geocities.com/wtnbkysh/
and make ltmdm.ko

It will not work in irq-sharing mode under 5-current.

You must remove devices which use same irq as ltmdm
from kernel configuration and re-make kernel.

Choose device driver by kldunload/kldload  at need.


sorry I cannot explain detail in english.

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On Wednesday,  2 May 2001 at 20:41:48 -0700, Dmitry V . Kalashnikov wrote:
> Hello,
>
> After much pain and suffering from my qwest to find a perfect FreeBSD laptop,
> I decided to ask mobile for some help:
>
> I am looking for a laptop that has following specs:
>
>  * 13.3 TFT,1024x768 (16bpp) or better
>  * 16-bit sound
>  * Video RAM: 8+ Mb
>  * working modem (non-winmodem)
>  * 500+ Mhz CPU
>  * up to 256MB RAM or more
>  * 10+ Gb HDD or more
>  * with an option of DVD drive
>
> I don't care how much it costs. If you know the manufacturer that makes a
> laptop close to these figures, please let me know.

Modulo the modem, you can take your pick of just about any modern
laptop.  When you consider that a PCMCIA modem costs about $30, I
wouldn't restrict my search based on that criterion.

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On Fri, 4 May 2001, George Michaelson wrote:

:
:I just tried windows. The card works perfectly.
:
:the entries I get are:
:
:	PCIC: 	  IRQ 10 1080 - 10BF 10000000 - 10000FFF
:	Orinoco:  IRQ  5 1080 - 10BF <nothing>
:
:
:I am currently sitting in FreeBSD with the PCIC on irq 3:
:
:pcic0: <VLSI 82C146> at port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 irq 3 on isa0
:
:When I try and use pccardc enabler 0 wi0 -i 5 it freezes.
:
:My guess is that I need to take the W98 info above, and either stuff it
:into kernel or (hopefully) modify /etc/pccard.conf to override defaults
:and avoid conflicts.

I've got a C800, but here's my dmesg output relative to pcic0 and my
pccards:

chip1: <PCI to CardBus bridge (vendor=104c device=ac42)> irq 11 at device
15.0 on pci2

chip2: <PCI to CardBus bridge (vendor=104c device=ac42)> irq 11 at device
15.1 on pci2

pcic0: <VLSI 82C146> at port 0x3e0-0x3e1 irq 10 on isa0
pcic0: management irq 10

pccard0: <PC Card bus -- kludge version> on pcic0
pccard1: <PC Card bus -- kludge version> on pcic0
pccard: card inserted, slot 0
pccard: card inserted, slot 1

xe0 at port 0x240-0x24f iomem 0xd0000-0xd0fff irq 9 slot 0 on pccard0
xe0: Intel CE3, bonding version 0x45, 100Mbps capable
xe0: DingoID = 0x444b, RevisionID = 0x1, VendorID = 0
xe0: Ethernet address 00:a0:c9:bc:3e:b4

sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 slot 1 on pccard1
sio1: type 16550A

And here's the relevant bits of my kernel config file:

device          pcic0   at isa? irq 10
device          card

And from my pccard.conf file: 

7:25am ghastly  /home/jamie %cat /etc/pccard.conf 

# Generally available IRQs (Built-in sound-card owners remove 5)
irq     3 9

# Zoom 56K modem 
# Freezes your system entirely if you don't have the reset..
card "Zoom Telephonics, Inc." "PCMCIA 56K LT DataFax"
        config  auto "sio" 3
        reset   1000

card "Intel" "EtherExpress(TM) PRO/100 PC Card Mobile Adapter16"
        config  auto "xe" 9
        insert  /etc/pccard_ether $device start
        remove  /etc/pccard_ether $device stop

I used this same setup on a CPi R and a CPx H with no problems.  Your C400
should be mostly the same.  

Jamie Bowden

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Jamie,

This is interesting.  Your c800 machine has several PCI devices on IRQ11, 
sound on IRQ5, UHCI on IRQ11, and the PCIC on IRQ10.

>pci1: <ATI model 4d46 graphics accelerator> at 0.0 irq 11

>pcm0: <ESS Technology Maestro3> port 0xec00-0xecff mem
>0xf8ffe000-0xf8ffffff irq 5 at device 3.0 on pci2
>chip1: <PCI to CardBus bridge (vendor=104c device=ac42)> irq 11 at device
>15.0 on pci2
>chip2: <PCI to CardBus bridge (vendor=104c device=ac42)> irq 11 at device
>15.1 on pci2
>pci2: <unknown card> (vendor=0x104c, dev=0x8027) at 15.2 irq 11

>uhci0: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> port 0xdce0-0xdcff irq 11 at device
>31.2 on pci0

>pcic0: <VLSI 82C146> at port 0x3e0-0x3e1 irq 10 on isa0
>pcic0: management irq 10

using config:
>device		pcm
>
>device		pcic0	at isa? irq 10
>device		card
>
>device		uhci


OTOH, George gets several devices on IRQ10, sound on IRQ10, UHCI on IRQ11 
and the PCIC on IRQ13! (due to FreeBSD pcic limitations):

pci1: <ATI Mobility-1 graphics accelerator> at 0.0 irq 10

uhci0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> port 0xfce0-0xfcff irq 11 
at
device 7.2 on pci0

pcm0: <Crystal Semiconductor CS4281> mem 
0xfedf0000-0xfedfffff,0xfedef000-0xfed
effff irq 10 at device 8.0 on pci0
pcic-pci0: <TI PCI-1410 PCI-CardBus Bridge> irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci0

xl0: <3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xfc00-0xfc7f mem
0xfededc00-0xfededc7f irq 10 at device 13.0 on pci0

pcic0: <VLSI 82C146> at port 0x3e0-0x3e1 irq 10 on isa0
pcic0: management irq 13

using config:

device          card
device          pcic0   at isa? irq 10

device          xl

device          uhci

device          pcm

==========================
It does appear that Dell may have wired the PCI interrupts differently on 
these two machines.  If PCIC can't share, or operate in polling mode, George 
might be out of luck.

[IANA PCI expert, but my understanding is that a PC vendor wires the inta 
pins (for single int devices) of the different PCI devices across several 
programmable interrupt wires.  See sample diagrams I borrowed:

             ,-.        ,-.        ,-.        ,-.        ,-.
   PIRQ4 ----| |-.    ,-| |-.    ,-| |-.    ,-| |--------| |
             |S|  \  /  |S|  \  /  |S|  \  /  |S|        |S|
   PIRQ3 ----|l|-. `/---|l|-. `/---|l|-. `/---|l|--------|l|
             |o|  \/    |o|  \/    |o|  \/    |o|        |o|
   PIRQ2 ----|t|-./`----|t|-./`----|t|-./`----|t|--------|t|
             |1| /\     |2| /\     |3| /\     |4|        |5|
   PIRQ1 ----| |-  `----| |-  `----| |-  `----| |--------| |
             `-'        `-'        `-'        `-'        `-'

                             ,-.
                       INTD--| |
                             |S|
                       INTC--|l|
                             |o|
                       INTB--|t|
                             |x|
                       INTA--| |
                             `-'

So theoretically it would be possible to design a computer that Windows 
could use but that FreeBSD would have problems with, due to PCIC's inability 
to share INTs, and apparent problems with polling mode on certain machines 
(notably Vaio's).

I hope someone with more knowledge on PCI programmable interrupts will 
comment if I am off-base here.]

Also, you get the chip0/chip1 messages; George didn't.  I don't know what 
that means.

To verify the pci int pin settings I boot my 4.1-Release machine in verbose 
mode.  Maybe if Jamie (or anyone with a Dell c800) and George do that we can 
shed some more light on this.

[example from my dmesg's:

found->	vendor=0x10c8, dev=0x0004, revid=0x01
	class=03-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0
	subordinatebus=0 	secondarybus=0
	intpin=a, irq=11   <<<<<<<<<<
]

Greg
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On Fri, 4 May 2001, Greg Smith wrote:

:Jamie,
:
:This is interesting.  Your c800 machine has several PCI devices on IRQ11, 
:sound on IRQ5, UHCI on IRQ11, and the PCIC on IRQ10.

The unkown device on IRQ 11 is the 1394 controller as well.

:>pci1: <ATI model 4d46 graphics accelerator> at 0.0 irq 11
:
:>pcm0: <ESS Technology Maestro3> port 0xec00-0xecff mem
:>0xf8ffe000-0xf8ffffff irq 5 at device 3.0 on pci2
:>chip1: <PCI to CardBus bridge (vendor=104c device=ac42)> irq 11 at device
:>15.0 on pci2
:>chip2: <PCI to CardBus bridge (vendor=104c device=ac42)> irq 11 at device
:>15.1 on pci2
:>pci2: <unknown card> (vendor=0x104c, dev=0x8027) at 15.2 irq 11
:
:>uhci0: <UHCI (generic) USB controller> port 0xdce0-0xdcff irq 11 at device
:>31.2 on pci0
:
:>pcic0: <VLSI 82C146> at port 0x3e0-0x3e1 irq 10 on isa0
:>pcic0: management irq 10
:
:using config:
:>device		pcm
:>
:>device		pcic0	at isa? irq 10
:>device		card
:>
:>device		uhci
:
:
:OTOH, George gets several devices on IRQ10, sound on IRQ10, UHCI on IRQ11 
:and the PCIC on IRQ13! (due to FreeBSD pcic limitations):
:
:pci1: <ATI Mobility-1 graphics accelerator> at 0.0 irq 10
:
:uhci0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB controller> port 0xfce0-0xfcff irq 11 
:at
:device 7.2 on pci0
:
:pcm0: <Crystal Semiconductor CS4281> mem 
:0xfedf0000-0xfedfffff,0xfedef000-0xfed
:effff irq 10 at device 8.0 on pci0
:pcic-pci0: <TI PCI-1410 PCI-CardBus Bridge> irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci0
:
:xl0: <3Com 3c905C-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xfc00-0xfc7f mem
:0xfededc00-0xfededc7f irq 10 at device 13.0 on pci0
:
:pcic0: <VLSI 82C146> at port 0x3e0-0x3e1 irq 10 on isa0
:pcic0: management irq 13
:
:using config:
:
:device          card
:device          pcic0   at isa? irq 10
:
:device          xl
:
:device          uhci
:
:device          pcm
:
:==========================
:It does appear that Dell may have wired the PCI interrupts differently on 
:these two machines.  If PCIC can't share, or operate in polling mode, George 
:might be out of luck.

The C600 is not much different than the C800; the C400 on the other hand
appears to be a whole different beast.  The differences between the CPx H
and the C800 don't seem to be significant either.  I'm still using my old
4.2 config from the CPx H.

:To verify the pci int pin settings I boot my 4.1-Release machine in verbose 
:mode.  Maybe if Jamie (or anyone with a Dell c800) and George do that we can 
:shed some more light on this.

My laptop is on my desk at home right now.  I can access it, but I can't
reboot it and tell it to give verbose output from here.  I can do so
later.

Jamie Bowden

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I'm talking out of my posterior, but I just read your entire conversation
so I feel if I don't say something, I've wasted my time.

On Wed, 2 May 2001, Garrett Rooney wrote:

> [rooneg@marcus ~]$ wicontrol
> NIC serial number:                      [ 00UT33370208 ]
> Station name:                           [ FreeBSD WaveLAN/IEEE node ]
> SSID for IBSS creation:                 [ FreeBSD IBSS ]
> Current netname (SSID):                 [ psiu ]
> Desired netname (SSID):                 [  ]
> Current BSSID:                          [ 00:60:1d:23:be:7c ]
> Channel list:                           [ 2047 ]
> IBSS channel:                           [ 10 ]
> Current channel:                        [ 1 ]
> Comms quality/signal/noise:             [ 11 71 60 ]
> Promiscuous mode:                       [ Off ]
> Port type (1=BSS, 3=ad-hoc):            [ 1 ]
> MAC address:                            [ 00:02:2d:08:ad:a1 ]
> TX rate (selection):                    [ 3 ]
> TX rate (actual speed):                 [ 11 ]
> RTS/CTS handshake threshold:            [ 2347 ]
> Create IBSS:                            [ Off ]
> Access point density:                   [ 1 ]
> Power Mgmt (1=on, 0=off):               [ 0 ]
> Max sleep time:                         [ 100 ]
> WEP encryption:                         [ Off ]
> TX encryption key:                      [ 1 ]
> Encryption keys:                        [  ][  ][  ][  ]
> [rooneg@marcus ~]$

[ From your description of the access point]
> channel, which is set to 6, also the default they shipped it with

I don't see you using a channel 6 up there in your config anywhere. Might
that be the problem?

-gordon


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On 1 May 2001, Harry Putnam wrote:

> I imagine this is really basic stuff but as have many aspects of
> Freebsd this task seems very confusing.
>
> The laptop has FreeBSD and Redhat linux and a skeleton intstall of
> win98, on it.  I want to wipe out the linux partition and add it to
> the FreeBSD space.
>
> There seems to be no handy tool that supplies me with usable
> information about the disk.  At least not with out major studies .
>
> Fdisk output is nearly useless.  It apparently doens't see the linux
> partition at all.
>
> disklabel and diskpart both seem to expect irreversable commands with
> out showing me what they'll do.  Or where.

I tend to agree on this one, disk utilities in FreeBSD aren't exactly
user-friendly.

> That brings us to /stand/sysinstall and the fdisk editor.
>
> Evey piece of documentation on www.FreeBSD.org  advises use of
> /stand/sysinstall for compatability mode partitions.  (There is still
> a skeleton install of Win/98)
>
> Ok cool, but every one of them skates right over the firt big
> stumbling block.
>
> They tell you to `select a disk to work on'.  No mention of why two
> are shown and I only have one.  Selecting either one shows me the
> exact same picture but with a different name.

hmm, lemme guess. wd0 and ad0?

> So how can I tell witch one to select?  Does it matter?  What are the
> repercussions?

The best thing to do would be to take a look at your /etc/fstab and see
what it uses (ad0s1a?) and then edit the disk listed with sysinstall.

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On Fri, May 04, 2001 at 10:48:27AM -0700, Gordon Tetlow wrote:
> [ From your description of the access point]
> > channel, which is set to 6, also the default they shipped it with
>=20
> I don't see you using a channel 6 up there in your config anywhere. Might
> that be the problem?

Setting the channel on a client will have no effect in infrastructure
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One of my colleagues pointed this out to me -- my laptop is not a
5000(e), but I believe it's made by the same folks.  (I'm not sure
at this point if the batteries I have are at similar risk.  At least
one that I checked has a date code within the affected range for the
Dell batteries, so there's a distinct possibility that others may be
affected, for all I know.)

Here's a link to a ZDnet article about it:
http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,5082260,00.html

and a link to a Cnet article:
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1006-200-5804151.html?tag=cd_mh

finally, Dell's customer letter:
http://support.dell.com/I5000Battery/

Given how well FreeBSD runs on this type of machine, I thought this
might be of some interest.

There are a couple things in the FAQ of interest, as well:

#4 Seems that the Dell I5000(e) was EOLed in March.

#14 Seems there's an APM-related BIOS update.  No clue how that relates
    to the BIOS update I used on my machine....

FYI,
david
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<html><DIV>please cc: me on the response cause I'm not on the list!</DIV>
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<DIV>specs: Dell C600 Latitude 866/256MB 20G HD Xircom 10/100/56K</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Brand new C600 out of the box and I can't get out of the box w/ installation. I run several FBSD boxen but this is my first mobile install. When I try to boot from floppies ( kern.flp )</DIV>
<DIV>I get the message "strike F1 to retry boot, F2 for setup utility".</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>yes, I set the&nbsp;floppy to boot first ...</DIV>
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<DIV>When I tried to boot from an *.iso ( after changing the cdrom to boot first ) the machine just seems to attempt to access the&nbsp;cdrom, and then boots into windoze as if the cdrom wernt even there.</DIV>
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<DIV>I think I may have burnt the iso wrong ( I;m using adaptec eazy cd creator ).</DIV>
<DIV>1) data cd 2) select image from file 3) I select 4.2-install.iso from the desktop</DIV>
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<DIV>I;ve tried to burn two disks and neither of them seem to work. I'm about to burn another b/c now I've missed happy hour and there's no reason to leave the office.</DIV>
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please cc: me on the response cause I'm not on the list!

specs: Dell C600 Latitude 866/256MB 20G HD Xircom 10/100/56K

Brand new C600 out of the box and I can't get out of the box w/ 
installation. I run several FBSD boxen but this is my first mobile install. 
When I try to boot from floppies ( kern.flp )
I get the message "strike F1 to retry boot, F2 for setup utility".

yes, I set the floppy to boot first ...

When I tried to boot from an *.iso ( after changing the cdrom to boot first 
) the machine just seems to attempt to access the cdrom, and then boots into 
windoze as if the cdrom wernt even there.

I think I may have burnt the iso wrong ( I;m using adaptec eazy cd creator 
).
1) data cd 2) select image from file 3) I select 4.2-install.iso from the 
desktop

I;ve tried to burn two disks and neither of them seem to work. I'm about to 
burn another b/c now I've missed happy hour and there's no reason to leave 
the office.

yes I've searched the mailing list and found nothing similiar to my prob,
any hlp apprec,
Manny

ps - if anyone has had any other specific probs w/ this model I'd appreciate 
any comments/hints.
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On Sat, 5 May 2001, Manny Obrey wrote:

:yes, I set the floppy to boot first ...

Set the first boot device to dvd/cdrom.

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Peter Shipley, Tristan Horn and I are hacking away on the Stylistic 1000's
(Amd 486/100); ours came from a local surplus shop complete with 340MB
Type III hd (which does work).  The goal is build cheap portable wireless
detection systems.  We've managed to put a stripped down 4.3-RC on them,
compiled in the Xfpit driver <http://www.linuxslate.org/software.html> for
XFree86 4.0.x; appears to work (just need to get a proper modeline/refresh
rate going, looks fine on the external VGA out {which is color, the LCD's
are mono}).

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> I want to get a tablet computer, something similar to the "fujitsu
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so, David Wolfskill shared this in my lifetime...
> >From: parv <parv_@yahoo.com>
> 
> >also, apm works. finally. even shutdown -p now; woo huhoo...
> 
> Great!  Was that because of the BIOS update?  If so, how does the BIOS
> identify itself when you boot?

yes, it was the BIOS update alright; have been waiting for it since i
bought the computer in jan 2001. before/without this update, kernel
used to panic after boot and/or while loading itself whenever apm(d)
was enabled.

following should be able to satisfy your curiosity:

apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2


> (The one I use identifies itself as:
> N38W2 BIOS Revision 1.06L.T01  (for Linux Test)
> 
> so you have something to which to compare it.)
> 

that's interesting ... not only due to the id above,  but also
the file (to create bios flash disk) is named A06_I5ke.exe ... 
(if that means anything)


ps: david, i have cc'd to -mobile, first time i forgot; hope you
won't mind.

- parv

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> Code 85 not found
> Code 85 not found
> code Unknown ignored

sorry to take so long to catch this thread.  i was out of country.  on my
c600 with wi0, the hack was

# PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
device		card
device		pcic0	at isa? irq 10 # port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000


# cat /etc/pccard.conf 
memory  0xdc000 16k
irq     7 9
# Lucent WaveLAN/IEEE
card "Lucent Technologies" "WaveLAN/IEEE"
        config  default "wi" 9
        insert  /etc/pccard_wi $device
        insert  /etc/pccard_ether $device start
        remove  /etc/pccard_ether $device stop

thanks to warner.

randy

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  > sorry to take so long to catch this thread.  i was out of country.  on my
  > c600 with wi0, the hack was

don't work on c400. bummer! reports pcic0 irq10 on isa0
but then reports management irq 13 which Werner confirms means it
died in a ditch binding to 10. almost every other device on the box
is bound to 10 it seems.

I'm trying a bit more on irq 3 and exploring portspace and iomem under
guidance from Greg Smith

Thanks for the input btw.

cheers
	-George

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  # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support
  device		card
  device		pcic0	at isa? irq 3 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd4000
   
  # cat /etc/pccard.conf 
  memory  0xdc000 16k
  irq     7 9
  # Lucent WaveLAN/IEEE
  card "Lucent Technologies" "WaveLAN/IEEE"
          config  default "wi" 9
          insert  /etc/pccard_wi $device
          insert  /etc/pccard_ether $device start
          remove  /etc/pccard_ether $device stop

Appears to have worked. I have green light on the WaveLAN card 
(testing at home, no other card or station)

Thanks to Randy for the overrides to pccard.conf, the list for putting
up with my email and everyone who replied.

Special thanks to Greg Smith for heaps of debug and encouragement. 

cheers
	-George

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oops. kernel still says its on irq 10 management 13. very odd.
This is definately when wired to irq 3. double odd.

but the wi0 card is probed, and greenlights. however, if removed
it can't  be brought to life again.

I'm too confused. I think I'll go to bed and try again after the
(time shifted) labor day holiday.

Forward the workers of the world!

cheers
	-George

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>Date: Sat, 5 May 2001 19:50:11 -0400
>From: parv <parv_@yahoo.com>

>> >also, apm works. finally. even shutdown -p now; woo huhoo...

>> Great!  Was that because of the BIOS update?  If so, how does the BIOS
>> identify itself when you boot?

>yes, it was the BIOS update alright; have been waiting for it since i
>bought the computer in jan 2001. before/without this update, kernel
>used to panic after boot and/or while loading itself whenever apm(d)
>was enabled.

OK; the pre-update symptom ypu describe is what happened to me before
the BIOS update I did, as well.

>following should be able to satisfy your curiosity:

>apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2

Actually, no.  That merely identifies the "level" of "APM support" the
BIOS provides.  I was interested in the string displayed at power-on:

>> (The one I use identifies itself as:
>> N38W2 BIOS Revision 1.06L.T01  (for Linux Test)

like that.


>that's interesting ... not only due to the id above,  but also
>the file (to create bios flash disk) is named A06_I5ke.exe ... 
>(if that means anything)

Well, the "I5ke" undoubtedly refers to "Inspiron 5000e".  And I just
checked; it appears that the actual BIOS file on the floppy image I used
is named "38w2106a.rom".  (My machine is a Compal N38W2; during the BIOS
update, the message was emitted -- apparently from the "autoexec.bat"
file:

FOR USE ONLY WITH INSPIRON 5000e AND COMPAL 38W2 SYSTEMS

which is also somewhat suggestive.)


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No problem.  I'll keep -mobile in the recipient list.

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>   irq     7 9

btw, i have my lpt disabled on my laptop as i have not used a parallel port
since 1948.  others may want to delete the "7" above.

randy


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> From: Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
> Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 08:55:08 -0700
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> 
> >   irq     7 9
> 
> btw, i have my lpt disabled on my laptop as i have not used a parallel port
> since 1948.  others may want to delete the "7" above.

If the parallel port is disabled in BIOS, I'd leave it there and let
the pccard interface use it. My wi device runs fine at IRQ 7 as long
as I disable it in BIOS. (If it's enabled in BIOS, I get weird behavior
and a non-functional wi device.)

My entire pccard.conf file now consists of a single line:
irq      7 9

If you disable the second serial port, you can add IRQ 3 to the
list. The wi worked fine there, too.

The "insert /etc/pccard_wi $device" line is no longer needed as
pccard_ether will now call /etc/start_if.${interface} on insertion and
you can put any wicontrol or other special initialization stuff in
there.

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From owner-freebsd-mobile  Sat May  5 15:30:21 2001
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Hi all,

On the Sony vaio under windows, if the power is plugged in, the screen
runs bright. If it is running on batter, the screen runs dim. You can
use fn-5 to change the brightness of the screen.

Is there any way to change the brightness of the display in FreeBSD?
fn-5 doesn't work. Also, is there any way to set brightness on
detection of power / battery?

TIA,

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From owner-freebsd-mobile  Sat May  5 15:31:27 2001
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Thanks to those who answered my original question.

I can happily confirm that mounting /dev/da0s1 will mount a memory
stick. You have to mount a slice for it to work.

Once again, thanks.

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I recently 'forced' my laptop to run FreeBSD and it likes to do so.
I had enough of the linux garbage I had installed on it, bleh...

Well, my problem is the following:
I found myself unable to reboot the laptop after having it suspended.
So I started playing with my KERNCONF but with no result.
I also couldn't find exactly what the flags supplied (0x20) refer to, if
anyone does I'd like to know about them.

I intuit it has nothing to do with my BIOS settings but could be...I put
it into custom mode, shuting down the display after 1 idle minute, the
disks after 5 and screen brightness to 72% when running on batteries.

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From owner-freebsd-mobile  Sat May  5 16:31: 8 2001
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I forgot to mention it's a Compaq Armada 1590DT

On Sun, 6 May 2001, Maarten van Schie wrote:

> I recently 'forced' my laptop to run FreeBSD and it likes to do so.
> I had enough of the linux garbage I had installed on it, bleh...
>
> Well, my problem is the following:
> I found myself unable to reboot the laptop after having it suspended.
> So I started playing with my KERNCONF but with no result.
> I also couldn't find exactly what the flags supplied (0x20) refer to, if
> anyone does I'd like to know about them.
>
> I intuit it has nothing to do with my BIOS settings but could be...I put
> it into custom mode, shuting down the display after 1 idle minute, the
> disks after 5 and screen brightness to 72% when running on batteries.
>
> Any help will be very welcome,
>
> Maarten.
>
>
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On Sat, 5 May 2001, Randy Bush wrote:

:>   irq     7 9
:
:btw, i have my lpt disabled on my laptop as i have not used a parallel port
:since 1948.  others may want to delete the "7" above.

That's a neat trick.  I don't recall there being any parallel ports in
'48.

Jamie Bowden

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On Sun, 6 May 2001, Maarten van Schie wrote:

> I forgot to mention it's a Compaq Armada 1590DT

most compaq notebooks i've seen have had a problem with being suspended
under X. when suspended, it just hangs upon resume. switch to another
virtual terminal where X isnt running and suspend there. 

been doing this on an armada m300 and m700.

--dinesh


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