From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Jul 15 0:23:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.ufl.edu (sp28fe.nerdc.ufl.edu [128.227.128.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CDB337B405 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 00:23:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bobj@ufl.edu) Received: from ufl.edu (neti.eng.ufl.edu [128.227.235.15]) by smtp.ufl.edu (8.11.2/8.11.3/2.2.1) with ESMTP id f6F7NiX95844; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 03:23:44 -0400 Message-ID: <3B5144FD.D0580756@ufl.edu> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 03:23:41 -0400 From: Bob Johnson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brett Glass Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Driver for D-Link DWL-650 card? [encryption now working] References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010712081345.04606810@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010712132417.04656100@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brett Glass wrote: > > At 01:23 PM 7/12/2001, Bob Johnson wrote: > > >I'm using a DWL-650, and it seems to work fine with the wi driver except > >that it cannot do encryption. > > That's OK; I use a VPN for anything sensitive that goes over wireless. > [...] I updated my system to -stable tonight (14 July) and encryption is now working on the DWL-650 (40/64 bit encryption is: I haven't tested 128). It's apparently been working for PRISM II cards since around July 4th, but I just got around to updating my system to confirm that the '650 works. Keep in mind that if you aren't using WEP, anyone with a null network name in their NIC can probably connect to (and use) your AP if they can get within range. That is what my real worry is - I've been turning off the AP when I wasn't using it. See, for example, http://all.net/journal/netsec/0106.html and http://www.tigertools.net/board/?topic=topic1&msg=202 - Bob To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Jul 15 7:40: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from chopin.n2.net (chopin.n2.net [207.113.132.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A28337B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 07:40:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blovett@oneinsane.net) Received: from the.oneinsane.net (postfix@the.oneinsane.net [66.42.61.25]) by chopin.n2.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6FEe1R19562 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 07:40:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by the.oneinsane.net (Postfix, from userid 1011) id 225C19BF7; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 07:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 07:39:59 -0700 From: Ben Lovett To: Bob Johnson Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disk clicking... (Was: Re: Dell Inspiron 8000 and suspend-to-disk) Message-ID: <20010715073959.A99778@bsdguru.com> Reply-To: Ben Lovett References: <20010703101035.A1027@bsdguru.com> <3B433888.7020304@quack.kfu.com> <3B4353BE.927522EF@ufl.edu> <20010704210528.A691@bsdguru.com> <20010707045013.A1368@sydney.worldwide.lemis.com> <20010714125947.A7983@bsdguru.com> <3B513A35.F0F32B9B@ufl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B513A35.F0F32B9B@ufl.edu>; from bobj@ufl.edu on Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 02:37:41AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD the.oneinsane.net 4.3-STABLE X-Moon: The Moon is Waning Crescent (32% of Full) X-Disclaimer: All messages are the opinion of my employer.. They just don't know it yet. X-Uptime: 7:35AM up 72 days, 23:32, 1 user, load averages: 0.23, 0.11, 0.03 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bob Johnson (bobj@ufl.edu) wrote: > Ben Lovett wrote: > > > > I believe I saw Greg Lehey (grog@FreeBSD.ORG) write this: > > > On Wednesday, 4 July 2001 at 21:05:28 -0700, Ben Lovett wrote: > > > > I believe I saw Bob Johnson (bobj@ufl.edu) write this: > > > >> Nick Sayer wrote: > > > >>> Ben Lovett wrote: > > > >> > [...] > > > > I believe this is the reason behind some strange noises that I hear > > > > comming from my disk every once in a while. It sounds like one of > > > > the heads is moving rather abruptly, or something like that. > > > > > > Well, the heads all move together. > > ok.. > > > > > > > Has anyone else noticed similar behaviour on Dell i8k's built as of > > > > late? > > > > > > A lot of us noticed "clunk" noises from the disks of 7500s built > > > between 12 and 18 months ago. I had mine replaced as a result, and > > > the new disk has never made any noise. Mike Smith didn't have his > > > replaced, and the disk still goes "clunk" after 18 months, but he > > > doesn't have any other problems with it. > > > > My 7500 makes what you might call "clicks" or "clunks" when it does > what sound to me like long seeks. I've heard it from so many drives > that I consider it normal. My mother-in-law's laptop had a horribly > noisy and slow drive that she thought was failing -- it was merely a > highly fragmented Windows swap file. Cleaned that up and the system > got quiet and fast again (isn't that neat? Windows is actually > designed to get slower with use!). > > When doing most disk-intensive operations on this 7500 (e.g. deleting > /usr/obj) it is very quiet, but during normal operation it clicks > and clunks once in a while. I've always assumed that was a long seek > related to flushing a buffer or something. Long seeks tend to be > (in my experience) relatively noisy on many drives. Yes.. This is what I seem to notice. The funny thing is, I don't believe i've heard it when the system is booted into Windows.. > > > Well.. I guess that I am observing this behavior on my replacement disk, > > I'll live with it. Unless I hear different. > > > > On a sort of side note.. I was discussing this issue with my boss > > yesterday, and he was explaining to me that when hard drives are > > manufactured, because of the nature of the mass-production, the platters > > will never turn out without flaws, and thus will have some bad sectors. > > So, when the drives go through their low-level formatting at the > > factory, those sectors will be marked as "bad" on some part of the > > drive. He was telling me that the reason that the drive may be clicking > > is that the heads are comming across one of these sectors that is marked > > bad, when it thought there was data there (or something to that effect), > > and then resyncing itself. Does that make sense? I believe that is > > what he was saying. > > A sector mapped bad shouldn't be accessed in the first place, but > it sort of makes sense. My understanding is that when a SCSI drive > (and probably recent IDE drives) detects errors in a sector, it maps > out that sector and replaces it with one from a spare sector pool at > the end of the disk. Thus, when that sector is accessed, there is a > seek to the end of the disk which you might hear. I assume that > sectors mapped bad at the factory are replaced by the next available > sector, so there would be no seek involved. Thus, only newly bad sectors > would cause noise. Yes. That is what I remember now.. He mentioned something about a spare sector pool, but I had forgotten about that until now. But, with a brand new drive, there should be no newly created bad sectors... Atleast not *yet* -ben > > > > > > Thanks again.. > > > > -ben > > -- > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > Ben Lovett printf("Hello world!); > > blovett@bsdguru.com return 0; > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > If Bill Gates had a dime for every time a Windows box crashed... > > ...Oh, wait a minute, he already does. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Jul 15 9: 8: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ls212.hinet.hr (ls212.hinet.hr [195.29.150.91]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B67537B403 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 09:07:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lampa@mioc.hr) Received: from ls401.hinet.hr (ls401.hinet.hr [195.29.150.2]) by ls212.hinet.hr (0.0.0/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6FG7dq25045 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 18:07:39 +0200 Received: from alpha (ad16-m21.net.hinet.hr [195.29.51.21]) by ls401.hinet.hr (0.0.0/8.11.3) with SMTP id f6FG7c219137 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 18:07:39 +0200 Message-ID: <000f01c10d48$43ae0910$15331dc3@alpha> From: "Damir Lampa" To: References: <200107131608.f6DG8TA10082@ptavv.es.net> Subject: Re: Problems with PCMCIA Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 18:06:50 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all! I cannot do anything about this.. luckly I have managed to find an external modem with this computer so I can connect to the Internet from FreeBSD. If I find a replacement PCCARD modem, I'll probably work it out easily... The card is not even supported under Windows 2000, so no wonder it produces problems under FreeBSD... Many thanks to all who have provided me with their valuable help!! Damir To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Jul 15 10:45:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [130.64.1.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B44437B408 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 10:45:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 15LpxT-0004bk-00 for mobile@freebsd.org; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 13:45:31 -0400 Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 13:45:30 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Driver for D-Link DWL-650 card? [encryption now working] Message-ID: <20010715134530.A17077@pir.net> Reply-To: mobile@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: mobile@freebsd.org References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010712081345.04606810@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010712132417.04656100@localhost> <3B5144FD.D0580756@ufl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B5144FD.D0580756@ufl.edu>; from bobj@ufl.edu on Sun, Jul 15, 2001 at 03:23:41AM -0400 X-fish: < Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bob Johnson probably said: > Keep in mind that if you aren't using WEP, anyone with a null network > name in their NIC can probably connect to (and use) your AP if they > can get within range. That is what my real worry is - I've been > turning off the AP when I wasn't using it. Well, you can use a closed network so they at least have to sniff the network name from raw packets (possible but not trivial for j.random person on the street) or you can limit by MAC address with some base stations so they'd have to sniff a valid MAC address and use it (possible but nontrivial) ... even if you use WEP then they can break the key (shown to be possible but very nontrivial, I havn't seen any tools to do this yet). All of these things can slow people down, though. If you're worried about your network you need an extra layer of security between the wireless and anything else. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Jul 15 11:33:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from web9707.mail.yahoo.com (web9707.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.128.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7872837B403 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 11:33:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from kjerstes@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010715183319.48320.qmail@web9707.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [141.154.35.196] by web9707.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 11:33:19 PDT Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 11:33:19 -0700 (PDT) From: kjerste soderberg Subject: Re: Driver for D-Link DWL-650 card? [encryption now working] To: mobile@freebsd.org Cc: pir@pir.net, bobj@ufl.edu In-Reply-To: <20010715134530.A17077@pir.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org My worries are the same. We'd also use the same AP's and same cards (D-LINK DWL-650's)w/ FBSD4.3 but regardless of the H/W, I've been thinking about the SAME statement U make "xtra layer of security". Yep! worried about the "parking lot" lurkers with a promisc. mode wireless card .. sniffin away .. Here is what I'm contemplating; Pls if ANYONE has a better mousetrap Pls advise; PLAN A; The AP IS NOT directly plugged into the ethernet hub. Instead in-between the AP and the hub sits a P133 (yesterday's "trash") w/ FBSD4.3 running as a firewall BUT on the same 192.168.x.x segment for the purpose of servicing the few laptops. No inetd and just ssh allowed solely. ssh would also forward X traffic The only way the laptops would access the LAN is via ssh. Of course this leaves me with much to be desired, sacrificed for security's sake; like NO EASY WAYS to: POP3 & SMTP general surfing on port80 (remember everything's denied save ssh) also propagating past just 1 AP to multiple APs scattered about for "infrastructure type coverage". A firewall per AP is a headache. So I was thinking of PLAN B; running an extra hub plugged into our router. This 16 port hub would be used for all the AP's solely. Our "real" wired network would sit behind our present firewall. So the AP's and ALL the associated wireless users would be part of the "great unprotected", if they wanna get into our regular network they gotta ssh in thru our firewall just as if they're comin in from the "outside". Better suggestions welcomed please. --- Peter Radcliffe wrote: > Bob Johnson probably said: > > Keep in mind that if you aren't using WEP, anyone > with a null network > > name in their NIC can probably connect to (and > use) your AP if they > > can get within range. That is what my real worry > is - I've been > > turning off the AP when I wasn't using it. > > Well, you can use a closed network so they at least > have to sniff the > network name from raw packets (possible but not > trivial for j.random > person on the street) or you can limit by MAC > address with some base > stations so they'd have to sniff a valid MAC address > and use it > (possible but nontrivial) ... even if you use WEP > then they can break > the key (shown to be possible but very nontrivial, I > havn't seen any > tools to do this yet). All of these things can slow > people down, > though. > > If you're worried about your network you need an > extra layer of > security between the wireless and anything else. > > P. > > -- > pir pir@pir.net > pir@net.tufts.edu > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Jul 15 11:34: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 862C137B405 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 11:34:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA21164; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 12:33:54 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010715123204.00cbe100@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 12:33:47 -0600 To: Bob Johnson From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Driver for D-Link DWL-650 card? [encryption now working] Cc: mobile@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <3B5144FD.D0580756@ufl.edu> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010712081345.04606810@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010712132417.04656100@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 01:23 AM 7/15/2001, Bob Johnson wrote: >Keep in mind that if you aren't using WEP, anyone with a null network >name in their NIC can probably connect to (and use) your AP if they >can get within range. And not get anywhere, because the router blocks everything but PPPoE. (Another reason why it's important to get FreeBSD's PPPoE implementation fixed. Right now, I'm using NetBSD because it doesn't have the problems -- including kernel panics! -- that I've seen with FreeBSD's userland PPP.) --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Jul 15 12:59:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.ufl.edu (sp28fe.nerdc.ufl.edu [128.227.128.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AA6B37B405 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 12:59:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bobj@ufl.edu) Received: from ufl.edu (neti.eng.ufl.edu [128.227.235.15]) by smtp.ufl.edu (8.11.2/8.11.3/2.2.1) with ESMTP id f6FJxBX83838; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 15:59:11 -0400 Message-ID: <3B51F60D.F1A391FF@ufl.edu> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 15:59:09 -0400 From: Bob Johnson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Damir Lampa Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with PCMCIA References: <200107131608.f6DG8TA10082@ptavv.es.net> <000f01c10d48$43ae0910$15331dc3@alpha> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Damir Lampa wrote: > > Hi all! > > I cannot do anything about this.. luckly I have managed to find an external > modem with this computer so I can connect to the Internet from FreeBSD. > What model (or brand) of modem is it? I have an old Procomm 33.6K pccard that has similar problems: if I try to use it, it locks up the system. I've never pursued it, because I bought a 56K modem soon after I discovered the problem. It would be nice, though, to have it as a backup rather than the 14K modem I carry as a backup now. > If I find a replacement PCCARD modem, I'll probably work it out easily... > The card is not even supported under Windows 2000, so no wonder it produces > problems under FreeBSD... The modem I use now is the Psion Gold 56K that Dell sells as an option for their laptops. Works fine. - Bob > > Many thanks to all who have provided me with their valuable help!! > > Damir > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Jul 15 13:15: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from web20104.mail.yahoo.com (web20104.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ED74237B403 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 13:15:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from glibor@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010715201504.65034.qmail@web20104.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [24.120.83.232] by web20104.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 13:15:04 PDT Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 13:15:04 -0700 (PDT) From: George Libor Subject: Re: NVidia Geforce2 Go To: xpert@xfree86.org Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [copying to freebsd-mobile in case someone else had the same problem I did. -glibor] George Libor wrote: > --- Mark Vojkovich wrote: > [My questions about NVIDIA GeForce2Go being supported > on laptop flat panel elided...] > > > > > > It won't be supported in the open source driver > > any time > > soon. I've stopped working on it because it looks > > like we > > won't be able to release source for the TMDS > > controller(s). > > NVIDIA based cards run flat panels through TMDS > > controllers > > made by other companies. They are not NVIDIA > > hardware. > > It should work fine with NVIDIA's binary Linux > > drivers though. > > > > > > Mark. > > > I use FreeBSD so I guess I'm out of luck for the time > being. Thanks anyway, though. George In case anyone else was having the same trouble, I realized that I could make it work with the vesa driver for the time being. This is the (Linux-oriented) page that helped me: http://www.vantslot.net/toshiba/toshiba_2805-S402.html Recapping, Toshiba 2805-S603 laptop with GeForce2Go card works fine at 16bpp 1024x768 using the VESA driver on FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE and XFree86 4.1.0. There are people working on getting a native FreeBSD NVIDIA driver going: http://nvidia.netexplorer.org/ George __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Jul 15 15:20:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from quack.kfu.com (quack.kfu.com [205.178.90.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70AB137B405 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 15:20:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Received: from morpheus.kfu.com (morpheus.kfu.com [3ffe:1200:301b:1:2d0:b7ff:fe3f:bdd0]) by quack.kfu.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6FMKUJ24005 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK); Sun, 15 Jul 2001 15:20:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Received: from quack.kfu.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by morpheus.kfu.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f6FMKUC00830; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 15:20:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Message-ID: <3B52172E.90809@quack.kfu.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 15:20:30 -0700 From: Nick Sayer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010701 X-Accept-Language: en, en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Brett Glass Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Driver for D-Link DWL-650 card? [encryption now working] References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010712081345.04606810@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010712132417.04656100@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010715123204.00cbe100@localhost> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Brett Glass wrote: > (Another reason why it's important to get FreeBSD's PPPoE implementation > fixed. Right now, I'm using NetBSD because it doesn't have the problems -- > including kernel panics! -- that I've seen with FreeBSD's userland PPP.) ?!?! A friend of mine is using FreeBSD with PPPoE and has been for quite some time now without any problems at all (he's running 4.3-RELEASE). What are you seeing? He's using the client side, so if you are saying that FreeBSD as a PPPoE server doesn't work, then that is something I've not tested. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Jul 15 15:34:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B610E37B403 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 15:34:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brett@lariat.org) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA22992; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 16:34:21 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010715163120.00d91100@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 16:34:11 -0600 To: Nick Sayer From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Driver for D-Link DWL-650 card? [encryption now working] Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <3B52172E.90809@quack.kfu.com> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010712081345.04606810@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010712132417.04656100@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010715123204.00cbe100@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 04:20 PM 7/15/2001, Nick Sayer wrote: >?!?! > >A friend of mine is using FreeBSD with PPPoE and has been for quite some time now without any problems at all (he's running 4.3-RELEASE). What are you seeing? The client caused kernel panics when used with an fxp adapter. I switched to an ed adapter, and it now works, BUT.... If the connection is interrupted for more than about half a minute (e.g. if you unplug the client), the client's PPP process locks up and won't reconnect. I've encountered this and so has Olivier Robert (pardon me if I've spelled his name incorrectly). The bug seems to be in Netgraph or perhaps in the interaction with the NIC drivers. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Jul 15 17: 4:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.ufl.edu (sp28fe.nerdc.ufl.edu [128.227.128.108]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B11237B406 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 17:04:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bobj@ufl.edu) Received: from ufl.edu (neti.eng.ufl.edu [128.227.235.15]) by smtp.ufl.edu (8.11.2/8.11.3/2.2.1) with ESMTP id f6G02eX51698; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 20:02:40 -0400 Message-ID: <3B522F1E.CF1732C6@ufl.edu> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 20:02:38 -0400 From: Bob Johnson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kjerste soderberg Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, pir@pir.net Subject: Re: Driver for D-Link DWL-650 card? [encryption now working] References: <20010715183319.48320.qmail@web9707.mail.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org kjerste soderberg wrote: > > My worries are the same. We'd also use the same AP's > and same cards (D-LINK DWL-650's)w/ FBSD4.3 but > regardless of the H/W, I've been thinking about the > SAME statement U make "xtra layer of security". > Yep! worried about the "parking lot" lurkers with a > promisc. mode wireless card .. sniffin away .. > > Here is what I'm contemplating; Pls if ANYONE has a > better mousetrap Pls advise; > Take a look at http://micro.circa.ufl.edu/walkup/tech.shtml A user who plugs in to a walk-up port (wired or wireless) can only connect to a web page that authenticates them. Once they are authenticated, the router dynamically reconfigures to give them access to the Internet (or whatever they are authorized). Not a perfect solution, but far better than nothing. The router is Linux-based. In this case, authentication and routing are performed by different boxes, but most organizations could probably be served fine by a single system doing both. It seems to me that putting together a simple FreeBSD based version would be fairly straightforward. As Brett Glass mentioned, PPPoE could provide another approach to this, but the solution above has the advantage that the user need no special configuration other than a web browser and a DHCP client. The solution above also doesn't address the problem of sniffing, but could certainly be modified to do so at the expense of makeing it harder for users to set up their systems to be compatible. E.g. tunnelling through SSH, IPsec, etc. I believe the long- term plan for the network mentioned above is to use IPsec. > PLAN A; > The AP IS NOT directly plugged into the ethernet hub. > Instead in-between the AP and the hub sits a P133 > (yesterday's "trash") w/ FBSD4.3 running as a firewall > BUT on the same 192.168.x.x segment for the purpose of > servicing the few laptops. > No inetd and just ssh allowed solely. > ssh would also forward X traffic > The only way the laptops would access the LAN is via > ssh. > > Of course this leaves me with much to be desired, > sacrificed for security's sake; > like NO EASY WAYS to: > POP3 & SMTP > general surfing on port80 > (remember everything's denied save ssh) > also propagating past just 1 AP to multiple APs > scattered about for "infrastructure type coverage". > A firewall per AP is a headache. > > So I was thinking of PLAN B; > running an extra hub plugged into our router. > This 16 port hub would be used for all the AP's > solely. > Our "real" wired network would sit behind our present > firewall. > So the AP's and ALL the associated wireless users > would be part of the "great unprotected", if they > wanna get into our regular network they gotta ssh in > thru our firewall just as if they're comin in from the > "outside". > > Better suggestions welcomed please. > > --- Peter Radcliffe wrote: > > Bob Johnson probably said: > > > Keep in mind that if you aren't using WEP, anyone > > with a null network > > > name in their NIC can probably connect to (and > > use) your AP if they > > > can get within range. That is what my real worry > > is - I've been > > > turning off the AP when I wasn't using it. > > > > Well, you can use a closed network so they at least > > have to sniff the > > network name from raw packets (possible but not > > trivial for j.random > > person on the street) If you are referring to the network name as defined by the access point, I believe that a NIC with a null network name can connect to any access point. It can certainly connect to mine. > > or you can limit by MAC address with some base > > stations so they'd have to sniff a valid MAC address > > and use it > > (possible but nontrivial) ... even if you use WEP > > then they can break > > the key (shown to be possible but very nontrivial, I > > havn't seen any > > tools to do this yet). All of these things can slow > > people down, > > though. As I understand it, the theoretical scheme for breaking WEP encryption is based on a technique developed in WW I. If you have more than one message encrypted with the same key, and you have good knowledge of the statistics of the underlying plaintext messages, then you can start to guess at the occurrence of common letters and letter combinations, allowing you to eventually decipher the messages with a little luck and good guessing. The weak part of this scheme is that you are unlikely to have detailed statistical knowledge of the traffic being sent over the net, and the statistics probably vary from message to message. I.E. one message may be English text, the next may be a web page in French, and the next may be a log file. I'm not sure how much it would help to simply assume that all messages are, for instance, English language web pages, but even if it helps, the attack is probably only feasible on a high-volume network. The attacker must capture millions of packets to start to get meaningful results. So my home network is probably safe. And I don't expect to see an effective automated attack in the near future. > > > > If you're worried about your network you need an > > extra layer of > > security between the wireless and anything else. If WEP is workable in your environment, then it provides a lot of protection despite its theoretical weaknesses. Unfortunately, it doesn't scale well: how do you distribute new WEP keys on a regular basis to 20,000 users? - Bob > > > > P. > > > > -- > > pir pir@pir.net > > pir@net.tufts.edu > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Jul 15 20:22: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost-1.mtl-loo.activecom.net (mailhost-1.mtl-loo.activecom.net [64.135.16.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7873537B403 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 20:22:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from woodrow@activecom.net) Received: from saturn.activecom.net (saturn.activecom.net [64.135.16.6]) by mailhost-1.mtl-loo.activecom.net (Active MailServer) with ESMTP id CBB698DC35 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 23:21:53 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 22:36:52 -0400 (EDT) From: Joshua MacQueen To: Subject: Inspiron 7000 apm problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I was offered a Dell Inspiron 7000 D300LT for only $400 the other day so I pounced on the opportunity to install FreeBSD on a laptop. The install went smoothly, X setup was flawless as always but my problems arose when I tried to setup apm[d] and sound for the Maestro II chip. Apm is a top priority with audio being a distant 2nd. I followed LINT's instructions for apm support but when I run it at startup or with apm -d I tells me that /dev/apmctl is not configured. I put a copy of kernel config and its subsequent dmesg out put http://www.activecom.net/~woodrow/spiro http://www.activecom.net/~woodrow/dmesg And most importantly, I only have the install media from 4.1-Release. I checked 4.1's release notes and didn't notice anything relevant to me. If support for apm is borked on that release I can a cd of 4.3-stable if need be. Thanks for any help. _________________ Testing? What's that? If it compiles, it is good, if it boots up, it is perfect. -- Linus Torvalds To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Jul 15 20:51:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B27137B403 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 20:51:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6G3pIF18660; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 21:51:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f6G3pIo30673; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 21:51:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200107160351.f6G3pIo30673@harmony.village.org> To: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Driver for D-Link DWL-650 card? Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 12 Jul 2001 08:17:42 MDT." <4.3.2.7.2.20010712081345.04606810@localhost> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010712081345.04606810@localhost> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 21:51:18 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <4.3.2.7.2.20010712081345.04606810@localhost> Brett Glass writes: : Please pardon me for reposting this query on a second list, but I got no : answer when I sent it to freebsd-hardware. Does anyone know if one of the : existing 802.11b drivers will work with the D-Link DWL-650 card? There : are some great prices out there on this one, plus a rebate offer that : runs from this week through the end of July. (I just bought one, new, for : $74.50 INCLUDING shipping and the rebate.) I've used this in adhoc mode with FreeBSD and a oronoco gold card. I've also used them with access points at Usenix. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Jul 15 20:53:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 062DB37B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 20:53:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6G3rJF18674; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 21:53:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f6G3rJo30706; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 21:53:19 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200107160353.f6G3rJo30706@harmony.village.org> To: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Driver for D-Link DWL-650 card? Cc: Bob Johnson , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 12 Jul 2001 13:34:07 MDT." <4.3.2.7.2.20010712133218.0446ff00@localhost> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010712133218.0446ff00@localhost> <4.3.2.7.2.20010712081345.04606810@localhost> <3B4DF92C.5040706@garbonzo.hos.ufl.edu> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 21:53:19 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <4.3.2.7.2.20010712133218.0446ff00@localhost> Brett Glass writes: : At 01:31 PM 7/12/2001, Bob Johnson wrote: : : >There is a caveat that I forgot to mention: it doesn't seem to have as : >much range as advertised, but the problem may be my access point. : : Someone else mentioned that earlier. It could be the antenna, which is : oddly shaped. Is there an easy way to plug in an alternate antenna? I : hear that Orinoco cards get better range if you put on a short whip : antenna; maybe this one does too. With orinoco cards, there's a plug for an external antenna. With the D-links there isn't. You get the antenna you get. That said., I've not had problemswith range. But I usualy don't get more than 100' from my base station. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Jul 15 20:54:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2C1537B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 20:54:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6G3s3F18683; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 21:54:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f6G3s2o30725; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 21:54:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200107160354.f6G3s2o30725@harmony.village.org> To: "Damir Lampa" Subject: Re: Problems with PCMCIA Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 12 Jul 2001 22:17:28 +0200." <003a01c10b0f$bc5e82d0$26811dc3@alpha> References: <003a01c10b0f$bc5e82d0$26811dc3@alpha> Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 21:54:02 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I hate to say it, but this card likely won't work with FreeBSD. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Jul 15 20:56:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F12B37B401 for ; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 20:56:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6G3udF18697; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 21:56:39 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f6G3uco30754; Sun, 15 Jul 2001 21:56:39 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200107160356.f6G3uco30754@harmony.village.org> To: Martin Dieringer Subject: Re: kernel config for Thinkpad 600 & BT575? Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 14 Jul 2001 20:47:11 +0200." References: Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 21:56:38 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message Martin Dieringer writes: : if somebody happens to have a working -current kernel config for the : combination above (Thinkpad 600 and 3com BT575 network cardbus card), : it would be nice if s/he could email it to me. : I still can't get this working. I always get lockups. NEWCARD should just work. Please be more specific about when you get lockups, etc. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Jul 16 7:11:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from reliant.nielsenmedia.com (reliant.nielsenmedia.com [63.114.249.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7043837B403 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 07:11:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from David_W_Gray@tvratings.com) Received: from nmrusdunsxg2.nielsenmedia.com (nmrusdunsxg2.nielsenmedia.com [10.9.11.121]) by reliant.nielsenmedia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA22210 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:10:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: by nmrusdunsxg2.nielsenmedia.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <3YS8PYCT>; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:10:58 -0400 Message-ID: <01D4D419B1A4D111A30400805FE65B13070AC38F@nmrusdunsx1.nielsenmedia.com> From: "Gray, David" To: "'FreeBSD mobile list'" Subject: RE: Disk clicking... (Was: Re: Dell Inspiron 8000 and suspend-to- disk) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 10:10:57 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have an older Toshiba Tecra with a 5G IBM drive that does this. It runs *extremely* slowly under load. It appears to be re-calibrating (thats what a seek to home position, then back to the target track is called) constantly. This is related to the ATA driver. If I use the WD driver (deprecated), it works just fine. Or, {shudder}, Win95. I have a brand new 20G to go in the thing - we'll see if that works any better. Otherwise, it looks like 4.2 is the end of the line for this fella. (I *did* see that WD was axed completely nowadays, didn't I?) -----Original Message----- From: Ben Lovett [mailto:blovett@bsdguru.com] Sent: Sunday, July 15, 2001 10:40 AM To: Bob Johnson Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Disk clicking... (Was: Re: Dell Inspiron 8000 and suspend-to-disk) Bob Johnson (bobj@ufl.edu) wrote: > Ben Lovett wrote: > > > > I believe I saw Greg Lehey (grog@FreeBSD.ORG) write this: > > > On Wednesday, 4 July 2001 at 21:05:28 -0700, Ben Lovett wrote: > > > > I believe I saw Bob Johnson (bobj@ufl.edu) write this: > > > >> Nick Sayer wrote: > > > >>> Ben Lovett wrote: > > > >> > [...] > > > > I believe this is the reason behind some strange noises that I hear > > > > comming from my disk every once in a while. It sounds like one of > > > > the heads is moving rather abruptly, or something like that. > > > > > > Well, the heads all move together. > > ok.. > > > > > > > Has anyone else noticed similar behaviour on Dell i8k's built as of > > > > late? > > > > > > A lot of us noticed "clunk" noises from the disks of 7500s built > > > between 12 and 18 months ago. I had mine replaced as a result, and > > > the new disk has never made any noise. Mike Smith didn't have his > > > replaced, and the disk still goes "clunk" after 18 months, but he > > > doesn't have any other problems with it. > > > > My 7500 makes what you might call "clicks" or "clunks" when it does > what sound to me like long seeks. I've heard it from so many drives > that I consider it normal. My mother-in-law's laptop had a horribly > noisy and slow drive that she thought was failing -- it was merely a > highly fragmented Windows swap file. Cleaned that up and the system > got quiet and fast again (isn't that neat? Windows is actually > designed to get slower with use!). > > When doing most disk-intensive operations on this 7500 (e.g. deleting > /usr/obj) it is very quiet, but during normal operation it clicks > and clunks once in a while. I've always assumed that was a long seek > related to flushing a buffer or something. Long seeks tend to be > (in my experience) relatively noisy on many drives. Yes.. This is what I seem to notice. The funny thing is, I don't believe i've heard it when the system is booted into Windows.. > > > Well.. I guess that I am observing this behavior on my replacement disk, > > I'll live with it. Unless I hear different. > > > > On a sort of side note.. I was discussing this issue with my boss > > yesterday, and he was explaining to me that when hard drives are > > manufactured, because of the nature of the mass-production, the platters > > will never turn out without flaws, and thus will have some bad sectors. > > So, when the drives go through their low-level formatting at the > > factory, those sectors will be marked as "bad" on some part of the > > drive. He was telling me that the reason that the drive may be clicking > > is that the heads are comming across one of these sectors that is marked > > bad, when it thought there was data there (or something to that effect), > > and then resyncing itself. Does that make sense? I believe that is > > what he was saying. > > A sector mapped bad shouldn't be accessed in the first place, but > it sort of makes sense. My understanding is that when a SCSI drive > (and probably recent IDE drives) detects errors in a sector, it maps > out that sector and replaces it with one from a spare sector pool at > the end of the disk. Thus, when that sector is accessed, there is a > seek to the end of the disk which you might hear. I assume that > sectors mapped bad at the factory are replaced by the next available > sector, so there would be no seek involved. Thus, only newly bad sectors > would cause noise. Yes. That is what I remember now.. He mentioned something about a spare sector pool, but I had forgotten about that until now. But, with a brand new drive, there should be no newly created bad sectors... Atleast not *yet* -ben > > > > > > Thanks again.. > > > > -ben > > -- > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > Ben Lovett printf("Hello world!); > > blovett@bsdguru.com return 0; > > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > > If Bill Gates had a dime for every time a Windows box crashed... > > ...Oh, wait a minute, he already does. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Jul 16 7:21:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from quack.kfu.com (quack.kfu.com [205.178.90.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02BD237B406; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 07:21:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Received: from morpheus.kfu.com (morpheus.kfu.com [3ffe:1200:301b:1:2d0:b7ff:fe3f:bdd0]) by quack.kfu.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6GELMJ00314 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK); Mon, 16 Jul 2001 07:21:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Received: from quack.kfu.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by morpheus.kfu.com (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f6GELMC02383; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 07:21:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Message-ID: <3B52F862.7000908@quack.kfu.com> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 07:21:22 -0700 From: Nick Sayer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010701 X-Accept-Language: en, en-US, en-GB MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: wpaul@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problems with Netgear MA401 (wi) References: <200107120729.f6C7TrK03849@icarus.kfu.com> <3B4E3132.2050009@quack.kfu.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Now to finish talking to myself... The driver in -stable fixed the remaining problems, and with the recent MFC I can even set the thing up with a single 'ifconfig' in the start_if script. Nick Sayer wrote: > > The Ethernet address still comes up wrong (and different every time). I > am temporarily working around this with 'ifconfig ${interface} ether > 8:0:20:de:ad:bf' in my start_if.wi0 file until the problem is fixed > correctly. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Jul 16 7:36:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EE4737B407 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 07:35:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #7) id 15M9TE-000Kcf-00; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 15:35:36 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f6GEZak48621; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 15:35:36 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 15:35:35 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: Greg Smith Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: init hangs leaving single user mode Message-ID: <20010716153535.A48593@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20010708000629.A26358@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <200107122219340610.02F9FE8F@smtp.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200107122219340610.02F9FE8F@smtp.mail.yahoo.com>; from freebsd_mail@yahoo.com on Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 10:19:34PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii OK, here you go... jcm -- o-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-o | ~~~~~~~~~~~~ Jonathon McKitrick ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ | | "I prefer the term 'Artificial Person' myself." | o-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-o --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="dm.out" ptime: 3m30s Rebooting... Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #78: Mon Jul 16 10:15:41 EDT 2001 jcm@hyperion.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/JUPITER Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (266.62-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183f9ff real memory = 167706624 (163776K bytes) avail memory = 159924224 (156176K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0325000. Preloaded elf module "linux.ko" at 0xc032509c. Preloaded elf module "snd_mss.ko" at 0xc032513c. Preloaded elf module "snd_pcm.ko" at 0xc03251ec. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled apm0: on motherboard apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcic-pci0: at device 2.0 on pci0 pcic-pci1: at device 2.1 on pci0 pci0: at 4.0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xfe60-0xfe6f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at 7.2 irq 11 chip1: port 0xfe70-0xfe7f at device 7.3 on pci0 chip2: port 0xff80-0xff9f irq 11 at device 10.0 on pci0 orm0:
Hi,
 
I've sent a mail earlier with the same problem = but didn't=20 get any reply... So trying again with a more specific version of = the=20 problem. I'm trying to install FreeBSD 4.3 on my machine (laptop) which = has=20 OnTrack DDO(Dynamic Drive Overlay) installed on the hard drive. I tried = all=20 kinds of combinations at the boot prompt but it always says = --
Not ufs
Not ufs
No /boot/loader
 
 
The documentation says FreeBSD is compatible with = DDO, but I'm=20 unable to make it work. Also in the archives I've found 2 or 3 questions = regarding this but no answers. So I think, this has to be a bug = unless=20 someone can tell me otherwise.
 
My situation is as described below--
 
I've a new blank 20GB hard drive installed on my = laptop. Since=20 it's blank and there is no data, I get to re-partition, re-format = and play=20 around with all combinations. I'm trying to get just FreeBSD(nothing = else is in=20 the hard drive except DOS) work with DDO. I need DDO because my = BIOS won't=20 recognize beyond 8.4GB of the hard-drive (I've the latest version = of=20 BIOS installed). I am not going beyond the 1024th cylinder. The = whole=20 FreeBSD partition is well below the 1024 cylinder limit. The disk = geometry=20 reported by FreeBSD fdisk is same as the one reported by Partition = Manager. So=20 no problem there also. Or is there something else? I also tried = Boot-Easy, OS-BS=20 and XOSL as boot manager. No luck.
 
If I remove DDO and boot, FreeBSD sees the full = 20GB. So=20 ideally, I don't need to use DDO if I am using just FreeBSD. But=20 unfortunately I also need to install Windows on the machine. So I've to = find a=20 way to get FreeBSD to exist with DDO and the documentation says it is=20 compatible.
 
I've almost given up all hope on making this work. = (I tried=20 Red Hat Linux and I've to tell you, it's much worse than this. It = doesn't even=20 install.) Does anyone have any experience in getting FreeBSD installed = and a=20 working on a hard drive with DDO?? There must be someone out = there,=20 who has worked on this part of the installer.... Maybe He/She can tell = why this=20 is not a bug. Am I missing something??? Please please reply and let = me=20 know. Any suggestions will be a great help......
 
Thanks in advance,
AGNair
 
PS:
This is how FreeBSD fdisk looks
 
FDisk
Disk name: ad0
Disk Geometry: 2584 cyls/240 Heads/63 Heads =3D 39070080=20 Sectors(19077MB)
 
Offset        =20 Size(KB)       End   =20              = Name      PType    =20 Desc           =20 Subtype    Flags
-63          &= nbsp;  =20 63            = ;        62   &nbs= p;            = ; =20 -       =20        =20 6            =   unused          = 0            =    =20    
63          &n= bsp;    7528       = ;        15119   &= nbsp;      =20 ad0s1      =20 2            =   fat         &nbs= p;        =20 6            =
15120       =20 3084480        6184079  = ;    =20 ad0s2       3    &= nbsp;        =20 freebsd          165&nb= sp;           C
6184080    16442968   =20 39070016      -    &nbs= p;           =20 6            =   unused         &= nbsp;0
 
 
View of Ranish Partition Manager on the disk is as = below:
 
Hard Disk 1 19077 Mbytes[2583 cylinders x 240 heads x 63 = sectors=20 ]
Using LBA
 
#    Type    = Row    File=20 System Type       =20 Starting[CHS]     Ending[CHS]   &= nbsp;       =20 Partition Size[KB]
0   =20 MBR           &nbs= p;  =20 Master Boot Record    0x0x1    =    =20            =20 0x0x1           &n= bsp;           &nb= sp; 0
1   =20 Pri           &nbs= p;      =20 Unused           &= nbsp;           &n= bsp; =20 0x0x2           &n= bsp;       0x0x63   &nb= sp;           &nbs= p;       31
2   =20 Pri        1   &nb= sp;   =20 DOS=20 FAT-16           &= nbsp;    =20 0x1x1           &n= bsp;        0x239x63  &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;   7,528
3  >Pri       &n= bsp;2       =20 FreeBSD,=20 BSD/386     1x0x1     &= nbsp;           &n= bsp;  408x239x63        = ;      3,084,480
4   =20 Pri           &nbs= p;      Unused     = ;            =           409x0x1 =             &= nbsp; 2583x238x63        &nb= sp;  =20 16,442,968
------=_NextPart_000_01A4_01C10E5C.43472280-- _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Jul 16 22:38:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7658537B409 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 22:38:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 8B6A86ACC1; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 15:08:29 +0930 (CST) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 15:08:29 +0930 From: Greg Lehey To: Bob Johnson Cc: David Gray , FreeBSD mobile list , blovett@bsdguru.com Subject: Re: Disk clicking... (Was: Re: Dell Inspiron 8000 and suspend-to-disk) Message-ID: <20010717150829.P70499@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <01D4D419B1A4D111A30400805FE65B13070AC38F@nmrusdunsx1.nielsenmedia.com> <3B53C11B.1E692E47@ufl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B53C11B.1E692E47@ufl.edu>; from bobj@ufl.edu on Tue, Jul 17, 2001 at 12:37:47AM -0400 Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tuesday, 17 July 2001 at 0:37:47 -0400, Bob Johnson wrote: > David Gray wrote: >> >> I have an older Toshiba Tecra with a 5G IBM drive that does this. It >> runs *extremely* slowly under load. It appears to be re-calibrating >> (thats what a seek to home position, then back to the target track >> is called) constantly. This is related to the ATA driver. If I use >> the WD driver (deprecated), it works just fine. Or, {shudder}, Win95. >> > > Well, you got me curious, so I started paying close attention to > what my Inspiron 7500 is doing. I even booted Windows (the things > I do for FreeBSD...) and used it for a while. > > So here's what I think I am hearing: > > 1) Seeks are a fairly noisy operation on this drive. Activities > that only require track-to-track seeks (or at least short seeks) > are quiet, e.g. deleting /usr/obj or booting FreeBSD in the first > place. Things that move the heads long distances are noisy. > > 2) The drive parks after 8 seconds (roughly) of inactivity. This > operation is fairly noisy and takes about 1/2 second. It is > distinguished by the fact that the disk activity light does not > come on when you hear the activity. The park operation probably > includes a calibration (that would help explain why it takes so > long). > > 3) Because the heads are parked, any new activity begins with an > initial seek that covers enough distance to be fairly noisy. > It takes long enough that I suspect it includes a calibration. > > 4) There is not noticable difference in disk activity or the amount > of disk noise that I hear in Windows and FreeBSD. There is enough > ram in the system that neither needs to be doing swapping. Almost > any activity in Netscape causes a noisy disk operation (this may > be more prominent in FreeBSD, but if so I think it is a function > of the application, not the operating system). > > 5) The noises are present even in the early stages of a cold boot, > when the BIOS is still controlling the system. My system has a > boot password set, and when it stops to wait for that password, > I hear the drive park, for instance. > > 6) The sound of the spinning disk seems to be getting louder > with time. I hope that's my imagination, because I consider it > to be far more sinister than noisy seek operations. It is a sign > of failing bearings. Maybe I should see if I can get Dell to > replace it before it fails, instead of waiting for it to do so. Nice analysis. I don't have mine here for comparison, but note that I had this problem from new, complained about it and got a new machine (it wasn't the only thing I complained about). The new machine was about one month newer than the old, came with a faster processor and as far as I can see the same drive, but it doesn't make nearly as much noise. It's difficult to describe the sounds it makes; it's quite possible we're talking about two different levels of sound here. Certainly there wasn't anything as regular about the sounds as you describe. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Jul 16 22:39: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from smtp011.mail.yahoo.com (smtp011.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4586F37B408 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 22:38:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd_mail@yahoo.com) Received: from adsl-63-195-114-87.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net (HELO greg) (63.195.114.87) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jul 2001 05:38:52 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <200107162238520660.032CE247@smtp.mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <01a901c10e7d$d0703540$7ab50241@jrsycty1.nj.home.com> References: <01a901c10e7d$d0703540$7ab50241@jrsycty1.nj.home.com> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.20.02.00 (2) Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 22:38:52 -0700 Reply-To: freebsd_mail@yahoo.com From: "Greg Smith" To: "A. G. Nair" Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD and OnTrack DDO Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org AG, Well I'm sorry I don't have the DDO answer, but I can tell you what I did when I had the same problem. My ThinkPad 600 BIOS also is limited to seeing about 8GB of my replacement 20GB hard drive. So I put Win95 in the first 7.5GB, then FreeBSD after that. As long as the root partition of FreeBSD is fully before cylinder 1024 (guaranteeing BIOS can do its boot things) everyone is happy. This solution doesn't require DDO or any other BIOS tricks. I use the FreeBSD MBR. I'm limited to 7.5GB for Windows and the rest for FreeBSD, but that is not too bad. Greg -----Original Message----- >Hi, > >I've sent a mail earlier with the same problem but didn't get any reply... >So trying again with a more specific version of the problem. I'm trying to >install FreeBSD 4.3 on my machine (laptop) which has OnTrack DDO(Dynamic >Drive Overlay) installed on the hard drive. I tried all kinds of >combinations at the boot prompt but it always says -- >Not ufs >Not ufs >No /boot/loader > > >The documentation says FreeBSD is compatible with DDO, but I'm unable to >make it work. Also in the archives I've found 2 or 3 questions regarding >this but no answers. So I think, this has to be a bug unless someone can >tell me otherwise. > >My situation is as described below-- > >I've a new blank 20GB hard drive installed on my laptop. Since it's blank >and there is no data, I get to re-partition, re-format and play around >with all combinations. I'm trying to get just FreeBSD(nothing else is in >the hard drive except DOS) work with DDO. I need DDO because my BIOS won't >recognize beyond 8.4GB of the hard-drive (I've the latest version of BIOS >installed). I am not going beyond the 1024th cylinder. The whole FreeBSD >partition is well below the 1024 cylinder limit. The disk geometry >reported by FreeBSD fdisk is same as the one reported by Partition >Manager. So no problem there also. Or is there something else? I also >tried Boot-Easy, OS-BS and XOSL as boot manager. No luck. > >If I remove DDO and boot, FreeBSD sees the full 20GB. So ideally, I don't >need to use DDO if I am using just FreeBSD. But unfortunately I also need >to install Windows on the machine. So I've to find a way to get FreeBSD to >exist with DDO and the documentation says it is compatible. > >I've almost given up all hope on making this work. (I tried Red Hat Linux >and I've to tell you, it's much worse than this. It doesn't even install.) >Does anyone have any experience in getting FreeBSD installed and a working >on a hard drive with DDO?? There must be someone out there, who has worked >on this part of the installer.... Maybe He/She can tell why this is not a >bug. Am I missing something??? Please please reply and let me know. Any >suggestions will be a great help...... > >Thanks in advance, >AGNair > >PS: >This is how FreeBSD fdisk looks > >FDisk >Disk name: ad0 >Disk Geometry: 2584 cyls/240 Heads/63 Heads = 39070080 Sectors(19077MB) > >Offset Size(KB) End Name PType Desc > Subtype Flags >-63 63 62 - > 6 unused 0 >63 7528 15119 ad0s1 2 > fat 6 >15120 3084480 6184079 ad0s2 3 >freebsd 165 C >6184080 16442968 39070016 - 6 >unused 0 > > >View of Ranish Partition Manager on the disk is as below: > >Hard Disk 1 19077 Mbytes[2583 cylinders x 240 heads x 63 sectors ] >Using LBA > ># Type Row File System Type Starting[CHS] Ending[CHS] > Partition Size[KB] >0 MBR Master Boot Record 0x0x1 >0x0x1 0 >1 Pri Unused 0x0x2 > 0x0x63 31 >2 Pri 1 DOS FAT-16 0x1x1 > 0x239x63 7,528 >3 >Pri 2 FreeBSD, BSD/386 1x0x1 >408x239x63 3,084,480 >4 Pri Unused 409x0x1 > 2583x238x63 16,442,968 > > >_________________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Jul 16 23:15: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from smtp014.mail.yahoo.com (smtp014.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.58]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1F32737B405 for ; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 23:14:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from agn_nair@yahoo.com) Received: from cc403125-a.jrsycty1.nj.home.com (HELO cc403125a) (65.2.181.122) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 17 Jul 2001 06:14:55 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Message-ID: <025801c10e87$d3c40fa0$7ab50241@jrsycty1.nj.home.com> From: "A. G. Nair" To: , Subject: Fw: FreeBSD and OnTrack DDO (re-sending earlier message in plain-text format) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 02:14:28 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Sorry for re-sending this mail. I was not aware that the earlier mail I sent was in HTML format. Probably that's why nobody saw it. Hope this works. AGN ----- Original Message ----- From: A. G. Nair To: questions@freebsd.org ; mobile@freebsd.org Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2001 1:03 AM Subject: FreeBSD and OnTrack DDO Hi, I've sent a mail earlier with the same problem but didn't get any reply... So trying again with a more specific version of the problem. I'm trying to install FreeBSD 4.3 on my machine (laptop) which has OnTrack DDO(Dynamic Drive Overlay) installed on the hard drive. I tried all kinds of combinations at the boot prompt but it always says -- Not ufs Not ufs No /boot/loader The documentation says FreeBSD is compatible with DDO, but I'm unable to make it work. Also in the archives I've found 2 or 3 questions regarding this but no answers. So I think, this has to be a bug unless someone can tell me otherwise. My situation is as described below-- I've a new blank 20GB hard drive installed on my laptop. Since it's blank and there is no data, I get to re-partition, re-format and play around with all combinations. I'm trying to get just FreeBSD(nothing else is in the hard drive except DOS) work with DDO. I need DDO because my BIOS won't recognize beyond 8.4GB of the hard-drive (I've the latest version of BIOS installed). I am not going beyond the 1024th cylinder. The whole FreeBSD partition is well below the 1024 cylinder limit. The disk geometry reported by FreeBSD fdisk is same as the one reported by Partition Manager. So no problem there also. Or is there something else? I also tried Boot-Easy, OS-BS and XOSL as boot manager. No luck. If I remove DDO and boot, FreeBSD sees the full 20GB. So ideally, I don't need to use DDO if I am using just FreeBSD. But unfortunately I also need to install Windows on the machine. So I've to find a way to get FreeBSD to exist with DDO and the documentation says it is compatible. I've almost given up all hope on making this work. (I tried Red Hat Linux and I've to tell you, it's much worse than this. It doesn't even install.) Does anyone have any experience in getting FreeBSD installed and working on a hard drive with DDO?? There must be someone out there, who has worked on this part of the installer.... Maybe He/She can tell why this is not a bug. Am I missing something??? Please please reply and let me know. Any suggestions will be a great help...... Thanks in advance, AGNair PS: This is how FreeBSD fdisk looks FDisk Disk name: ad0 Disk Geometry: 2584 cyls/240 Heads/63 Heads = 39070080 Sectors(19077MB) Offset Size(KB) End Name PType Desc Subtype Flags -63 63 62 - 6 unused 0 63 7528 15119 ad0s1 2 fat 6 15120 3084480 6184079 ad0s2 3 freebsd 165 C 6184080 16442968 39070016 - 6 unused 0 View of Ranish Partition Manager on the disk is as below: Hard Disk 1 19077 Mbytes[2583 cylinders x 240 heads x 63 sectors ] Using LBA # Type Row File System Type Starting[CHS] Ending[CHS] Partition Size[KB] 0 MBR Master Boot Record 0x0x1 0x0x1 0 1 Pri Unused 0x0x2 0x0x63 31 2 Pri 1 DOS FAT-16 0x1x1 0x239x63 7,528 3 >Pri 2 FreeBSD, BSD/386 1x0x1 408x239x63 3,084,480 4 Pri Unused 409x0x1 2583x238x63 16,442,968 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Jul 17 2:58:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from web11404.mail.yahoo.com (web11404.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.131.234]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A574337B405 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 02:57:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from shizukakudo_99@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010717095757.85744.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [204.59.89.212] by web11404.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 02:57:57 PDT Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 02:57:57 -0700 (PDT) From: Shizuka Kudo Subject: wi0 watchdog timeout with latest pccard MFC To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="0-2122745910-995363877=:84018" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --0-2122745910-995363877=:84018 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline All, I have sent this out a week ago, but haven't get any reply yet. Basically, I have an ASUS CUSL2 mb with PIII, 256M RAM and an Orinoco PCI adpater. After build/install world/kernel with latest pccard, I was able to boot up and pccardd recognized the Wavelan adapter. After that, the driver complain about "wi0: watchdog timeout" if I assigned IP address or used DHCP. You can find it in the attached dmesg output. Is this an IRQ problem? I have tried (1) specify whatever assigned to pcic0-pci in "-I -i" flag; (2) used BIOS to assign IRQ 10 exclusively for the card and specify pccardd_flags as "-I -i 10". All came with the same result. What can I do to investigate? Any hints? Note: forwarded message attached. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --0-2122745910-995363877=:84018 Content-Type: message/rfc822 X-Apparently-To: shizukakudo_99@yahoo.com via web11403; 16 Jul 2001 17:00:17 -0700 (PDT) X-Track: 1: 40 Received: from pcd419139.netvigator.com (EHLO shizuka.purple.com.hk) (203.218.209.139) by mta510.mail.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Jul 2001 17:00:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from root@localhost) by shizuka.purple.com.hk (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f6H01sd00294; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 08:01:54 +0800 (HKT) (envelope-from root) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 08:01:54 +0800 (HKT) From: Charlie Root Message-Id: <200107170001.f6H01sd00294@shizuka.purple.com.hk> To: shizuka00@sinagirl.com, shizukakudo_99@yahoo.com Subject: dmesg Content-Length: 14096 Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE #20: Tue Jul 17 08:32:48 HKT 2001 root@:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SHIZUKA Calibrating clock(s) ... TSC clock: 900094765 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193307 Hz CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CLK_USE_TSC_CALIBRATION not specified - using old calibration method CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (900.00-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x683 Stepping = 3 Features=0x383f9ff real memory = 268349440 (262060K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x00001000 - 0x0009efff, 647168 bytes (158 pages) 0x003bf000 - 0x0ffe2fff, 264388608 bytes (64548 pages) avail memory = 257638400 (251600K bytes) bios32: Found BIOS32 Service Directory header at 0xc00f13e0 bios32: Entry = 0xf0ba0 (c00f0ba0) Rev = 0 Len = 1 pcibios: PCI BIOS entry at 0xda0 pnpbios: Found PnP BIOS data at 0xc00fbe20 pnpbios: Entry = f0000:be50 Rev = 1.0 pnpbios: OEM ID cd041 Other BIOS signatures found: ACPI: 000f7a50 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel.test" at 0xc0399000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk Creating DISK md0 pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x8000005c pci_open(1a): mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000) pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=060000] [hdr=00] is there (id=11308086) npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x00000000 pci_open(1a): mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000) pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=060000] [hdr=00] is there (id=11308086) pcib0: on motherboard found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x1130, revid=0x02 class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base f8000000, size 26 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x1131, revid=0x02 class=06-04-00, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=1 secondarybus=1 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x244e, revid=0x01 class=06-04-00, hdrtype=0x01, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=2 secondarybus=2 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x2440, revid=0x01 class=06-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x244b, revid=0x01 class=01-01-80, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 map[20]: type 1, range 32, base 0000b800, size 4 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x2442, revid=0x01 class=0c-03-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=d, irq=9 map[20]: type 1, range 32, base 0000b400, size 5 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x2443, revid=0x01 class=0c-05-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=b, irq=5 map[20]: type 1, range 32, base 0000e800, size 4 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x2444, revid=0x01 class=0c-03-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=c, irq=9 map[20]: type 1, range 32, base 0000b000, size 5 pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 found-> vendor=0x10de, dev=0x0110, revid=0xb2 class=03-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=11 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base ee000000, size 24 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base f0000000, size 27 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: (vendor=0x10de, dev=0x0110) at 0.0 irq 11 pcib2: at device 30.0 on pci0 found-> vendor=0x104c, dev=0xac1c, revid=0x01 class=06-07-00, hdrtype=0x02, mfdev=1 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=10 found-> vendor=0x104c, dev=0xac1c, revid=0x01 class=06-07-00, hdrtype=0x02, mfdev=1 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=10 found-> vendor=0x104c, dev=0x8020, revid=0x00 class=0c-00-10, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=9 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base ed800000, size 11 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base ed000000, size 14 found-> vendor=0x1102, dev=0x0002, revid=0x08 class=04-01-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=9 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 0000d800, size 5 found-> vendor=0x1102, dev=0x7002, revid=0x08 class=09-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base 0000d400, size 3 pci2: on pcib2 pcic-pci0: irq 10 at device 10.0 on pci2 pcic-pci0: TI12XX PCI Config Reg: [pwr save][pci only] pcic-pci0: Legacy address set to 0x3e0 PCI Config space: 00: ac1c104c 02100003 06070001 00822008 10: 00000000 020000a0 00000000 00000000 20: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 30: 00000000 00000000 00000000 03c0010a 40: 2023133f 000003e1 00000000 00000000 50: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 60: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 70: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 80: 28449060 00000000 00000000 0cc07d92 90: 606000c0 00000000 00000000 00000000 Cardbus Socket registers: 00: f000ef6f: f000ef6f: f000e2c3: f000ef6f: 10: f000ef6f: f000ff54: f0008008: f000ef6f: ExCa registers: 00: eb 88 d5 43 30 d2 66 f7 f3 88 d7 5a 66 3d ff 03 10: 00 00 fb 77 44 86 c4 c0 c8 02 08 e8 40 91 88 fe 20: 28 e0 8a 66 02 38 e0 72 02 88 e0 bf 05 00 c4 5e 30: 04 50 b4 02 cd 13 5b 73 0a 4f 74 1c 30 e4 cd 13 pcic-pci1: irq 10 at device 10.1 on pci2 pcic-pci1: TI12XX PCI Config Reg: [pwr save][pci only] PCI Config space: 00: ac1c104c 02100003 06070001 00822008 10: 00000000 020000a0 00000000 00000000 20: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 30: 00000000 00000000 00000000 03c0010a 40: 2023133f 000003e1 00000000 00000000 50: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 60: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 70: 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 80: 28449060 00000000 00000000 0cc07d92 90: 606000c0 00000000 00000000 00000000 Cardbus Socket registers: 00: f000ef6f: f000ef6f: f000e2c3: f000ef6f: 10: f000ef6f: f000ff54: f0008008: f000ef6f: ExCa registers: 00: eb 88 d5 43 30 d2 66 f7 f3 88 d7 5a 66 3d ff 03 10: 00 00 fb 77 44 86 c4 c0 c8 02 08 e8 40 91 88 fe 20: 28 e0 8a 66 02 38 e0 72 02 88 e0 bf 05 00 c4 5e 30: 04 50 b4 02 cd 13 5b 73 0a 4f 74 1c 30 e4 cd 13 pci2: (vendor=0x104c, dev=0x8020) at 12.0 irq 9 pcm0: port 0xd800-0xd81f irq 9 at device 14.0 on pci2 emu: setmap (1b000, 800), nseg=1, error=0 emu: setmap (5b000, 1000), nseg=1, error=0 pcm0: ac97 codec id 0x83847609 (SigmaTel STAC9721) pcm0: ac97 codec features 18 bit DAC, 18 bit ADC, 5 bit master volume, SigmaTel 3D Enhancement pcm0: ac97 primary codec extended features AMAP emu: setmap (3bf000, 1000), nseg=1, error=0 emu: setmap (3ff000, 1000), nseg=1, error=0 emu: setmap (43f000, 1000), nseg=1, error=0 emu: setmap (47f000, 1000), nseg=1, error=0 pcm: setmap 4bf000, 1000; 0xcb49f000 -> 4bf000 pcm: setmap 4ff000, 1000; 0xcb4df000 -> 4ff000 pcm: setmap 53f000, 1000; 0xcb51f000 -> 53f000 isab0: at device 31.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xb800-0xb80f at device 31.1 on pci0 ata0: iobase=0x01f0 altiobase=0x03f6 bmaddr=0xb800 ata0: mask=03 status0=50 status1=50 ata0: mask=03 ostat0=50 ostat2=50 ata0-master: ATAPI probe a=00 b=00 ata0-slave: ATAPI probe a=00 b=00 ata0: mask=03 status0=50 status1=50 ata0-master: ATA probe a=01 b=a5 ata0-slave: ATA probe a=01 b=a5 ata0: devices=03 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: iobase=0x0170 altiobase=0x0376 bmaddr=0xb808 ata1: mask=03 status0=50 status1=00 ata1: mask=03 ostat0=50 ostat2=00 ata1-master: ATAPI probe a=14 b=eb ata1-slave: ATAPI probe a=00 b=00 ata1: mask=03 status0=00 status1=00 ata1: devices=04 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xb400-0xb41f irq 9 at device 31.2 on pci0 using shared irq9. usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered ichsmb0: port 0xe800-0xe80f irq 5 at device 31.3 on pci0 smbus0: on ichsmb0 smb0: on smbus0 uhci1: port 0xb000-0xb01f irq 9 at device 31.4 on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhub2: ALCOR Generic USB Hub, class 9/0, rev 1.10/1.00, addr 2 uhub2: 4 ports with 4 removable, self powered ata-: ata0 exists, using next available unit number ata-: ata1 exists, using next available unit number Trying Read_Port at 203 Trying Read_Port at 243 Trying Read_Port at 283 Trying Read_Port at 2c3 Trying Read_Port at 303 Trying Read_Port at 343 Trying Read_Port at 383 Trying Read_Port at 3c3 isa_probe_children: disabling PnP devices isa_probe_children: probing non-PnP devices fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 ata2 failed to probe at port 0x1f0 irq 14 on isa0 ata3 failed to probe at port 0x170 irq 15 on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 atkbd: the current kbd controller command byte 0047 atkbd: keyboard ID 0x41ab (2) kbd0 at atkbd0 kbd0: atkbd0, AT 101/102 (2), config:0x1, flags:0x3d0000 psm0: current command byte:0047 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0-00, 2 buttons psm0: config:00000000, flags:00000000, packet size:3 psm0: syncmask:c0, syncbits:00 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 fb0: vga0, vga, type:VGA (5), flags:0x7007f fb0: port:0x3c0-0x3df, crtc:0x3d4, mem:0xa0000 0x20000 fb0: init mode:24, bios mode:3, current mode:24 fb0: window:0xc00b8000 size:32k gran:32k, buf:0 size:32k VGA parameters upon power-up 50 18 10 00 00 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 54 80 bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 07 80 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff VGA parameters in BIOS for mode 24 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 54 80 bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff EGA/VGA parameters to be used for mode 24 50 18 10 00 10 00 03 00 02 67 5f 4f 50 82 54 80 bf 1f 00 4f 0d 0e 00 00 00 00 9c 8e 8f 28 1f 96 b9 a3 ff 00 01 02 03 04 05 14 07 38 39 3a 3b 3c 3d 3e 3f 0c 00 0f 08 00 00 00 00 00 10 0e 00 ff sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sc0: fb0, kbd0, terminal emulator: sc (syscons terminal) pcic0: at port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 on isa0 pcic0: Polling mode pccard0: on pcic0 pccard1: on pcic0 stat is 4c stat is c pcic1: not probed (disabled) sio0: irq maps: 0x241 0x251 0x241 0x241 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: irq maps: 0x241 0x249 0x241 0x241 sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: parallel port found at 0x378 ppc0: using extended I/O port range ppc0: ECP SPP ECP+EPP SPP ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/9 bytes threshold ppi0: on ppbus0 plip0: on ppbus0 bpf: lp0 attached lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port isa_probe_children: probing PnP devices BIOS Geometries: 0:03fffe3f 0..1023=1024 cylinders, 0..254=255 heads, 1..63=63 sectors 1:03fffe3f 0..1023=1024 cylinders, 0..254=255 heads, 1..63=63 sectors 0 accounted for Device configuration finished. bpf: lo0 attached bpf: ppp0 attached new masks: bio 68c240, tty 63129a, net 67129a bpf: sl0 attached ata0-master: success setting UDMA5 on Intel chip Creating DISK ad0 ad0: ATA-5 disk at ata0-master ad0: 29314MB (60036480 sectors), 59560 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S ad0: 16 secs/int, 1 depth queue, UDMA100 ad0: piomode=4 dmamode=2 udmamode=5 cblid=1 ad0: 29314MB [59560/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100 ata0-slave: success setting UDMA5 on Intel chip Creating DISK ad1 ad1: ATA-5 disk at ata0-slave ad1: 29314MB (60036480 sectors), 59560 cyls, 16 heads, 63 S/T, 512 B/S ad1: 16 secs/int, 1 depth queue, UDMA100 ad1: piomode=4 dmamode=2 udmamode=5 cblid=1 ad1: 29314MB [59560/16/63] at ata0-slave UDMA100 ata1-master: piomode=4 dmamode=2 udmamode=-1 dmaflag=1 ata1-master: success setting PIO4 on generic chip acd0: CD-RW drive at ata1 as master acd0: read 4134KB/s (4134KB/s) write 689KB/s (689KB/s), 2048KB buffer, PIO4 acd0: Reads: CD-R, CD-RW, CD-DA stream, packet acd0: Writes: CD-R, CD-RW, test write acd0: Audio: play, 256 volume levels acd0: Mechanism: ejectable tray acd0: Medium: CD-R 120mm data disc loaded, unlocked Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s4a ad0s1: type 0xb, start 63, end = 15020774, size 15020712 : OK ad0s2: type 0x83, start 15020775, end = 30057614, size 15036840 : OK ad0s3: type 0xb5, start 30057615, end = 45094454, size 15036840 : OK ad0s4: type 0xa5, start 45094455, end = 60034904, size 14940450 : OK start_init: trying /sbin/init pccard: card inserted, slot 0 ad1s1: type 0xc, start 63, end = 60034904, size 60034842 : OK splash: image decoder found: logo_saver pcic: I/O win 0 flags 15 240-27f pcic: I/O win 0 flags 5 240-27f wi0: at port 0x240-0x27f irq 10 slot 0 on pccard0 wi0: found Lucent chip pcic: I/O win 0 flags 15 240-27f wi0: Ethernet address: 00:60:1d:f2:38:c0 wi0: wi_generic_attach:wi_has_wep = 1 bpf: wi0 attached wi0: watchdog timeout --0-2122745910-995363877=:84018-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Jul 17 3:10:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mv.egroups.com (mv.egroups.com [208.50.144.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 57C3D37B407 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 03:10:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stuart@bh90210.net) X-eGroups-Return: stuart@bh90210.net Received: from [10.1.2.207] by mv.egroups.com with NNFMP; 17 Jul 2001 10:10:04 -0000 Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 10:10:02 -0000 From: stuart@bh90210.net To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Dell I8000 + FreeBsd 4.3 + Newbie = HELP! Message-ID: <9j12tq+bbek@eGroups.com> User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Mailer: eGroups Message Poster X-Originating-IP: 206.170.209.72 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Dell FreeBSD Users: Let me first declare my overall newbieness to FreeBSD, though I am a system administrator of 15 years. I am conversant in AIX, Solaris, Linux, HP-UX, etc. (but not FreeBSD)!?!? While down at DEFCON-9 this last weekend, I picked up a copy of FreeBSD 4.3, and have been itching to futz with it. I installed it (I think), so that it boots up in text mode. I know the issues I had to surmount with Linux and the Dell I8K, so rather than loose more hairs, I am going to ask for advice in advance. a) PCMCIA issues? b) How do I get XFree86 going (this I tryed, and well, I am still asking you how!)? c) Sound? d) CD-RW/DVD? e) Getting 1600x1200 (ATI M4 32MB card)? f) Intel built in ethernet board, will it work? g) WinModem (ActionTec), will it work? h) LS-120? Anything I may have overlooked? First thing I am looking to do is get from a text console to using X, after that the rest is free game for any takers. One other question: I noticed that FreeBSD has an "openboot prom" like lilo type program. However, I like lilo, and would like to know if I can use both? Can I use lilo, to point to that other boot loader? Are there instructions for this? I used to be a SunOS user, and the idea of having BSD running on the laptop if not just for fun, is quite exciting. Thank you all in advance, Stuart Beverly Hills, California, USA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Jul 17 8: 2:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from midget.dons.net.au (daniel.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.137.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 308ED37B401 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 08:02:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (darius@midget.dons.net.au [203.31.81.7]) by midget.dons.net.au (8.11.4/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f6HF2AG97724; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 00:32:10 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <9j12tq+bbek@eGroups.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 00:32:10 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: stuart@bh90210.net Subject: RE: Dell I8000 + FreeBsd 4.3 + Newbie = HELP! Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 17-Jul-01 stuart@bh90210.net wrote: > Let me first declare my overall newbieness to FreeBSD, though I am a > system administrator of 15 years. I am conversant in AIX, Solaris, > Linux, HP-UX, etc. (but not FreeBSD)!?!? I think you should search the lists.. There has been a bit of activity about the i8k recently (I got one :) > I know the issues I had to surmount with Linux and the Dell I8K, so > rather than loose more hairs, I am going to ask for advice in advance. > > a) PCMCIA issues? None when you specify an IRQ for the pcic controller (kernel rebuild, or boot -c) > b) How do I get XFree86 going (this I tryed, and well, I am still > asking you how!)? Get X4 and use the X config floating around the web/on the lists (I can't mail you mine ATM since my laptop is off) > c) Sound? Add.. snd_maestro3_load="YES" to /boot/loader.conf > d) CD-RW/DVD? My CD drive works out of the box but apparently there are problems with teh DVD drive (you have to set loader boot delay to 60 seconds). > f) Intel built in ethernet board, will it work? Yes, it appears as fxp0 > g) WinModem (ActionTec), will it work? Mostly.. There is a shim to use the lucent linux binary only object. > Anything I may have overlooked? APM.. It mostly works, I am currently investigating suspend to disk, suspend to ram works with the caveat that the USB controller stops responding after a resume. > I noticed that FreeBSD has an "openboot prom" like lilo type program. > However, I like lilo, and would like to know if I can use both? Can I > use lilo, to point to that other boot loader? Are there instructions > for this? I think lilo can boot the loader, but search the lists - someone surely has asked this question before :) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Jul 17 8:12: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7A2337B407; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 08:12:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6HFC1F24887; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 09:12:02 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f6HFC1o41693; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 09:12:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200107171512.f6HFC1o41693@harmony.village.org> To: Shizuka Kudo Subject: Re: wi0 watchdog timeout with latest pccard MFC Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 17 Jul 2001 02:57:57 PDT." <20010717095757.85744.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010717095757.85744.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 09:12:01 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <20010717095757.85744.qmail@web11404.mail.yahoo.com> Shizuka Kudo writes: : I have sent this out a week ago, but haven't get any : reply yet. Basically, I have an ASUS CUSL2 mb with : PIII, 256M RAM and an Orinoco PCI adpater. With -stable, This is not a supported configuration. I have a set of patches that I need to update to the latest -stable kernel that you need for this. -current should work. : Is this an IRQ problem? I have tried (1) specify : whatever assigned to pcic0-pci in "-I -i" flag; (2) : used BIOS to assign IRQ 10 exclusively for the card : and specify pccardd_flags as "-I -i 10". All came with : the same result. What can I do to investigate? Any : hints? Yes. It is an IRQ problem. However, it is because the TI chip is programmed to use ISA interrupts. This means that the interrupt isn't going over the PCI bus, which means that the wi card won't get interrupts, which is why you are seeing what you are seeing. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Jul 17 8:17:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A94637B403 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 08:17:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6HFHXF24923; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 09:17:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f6HFHWo41765; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 09:17:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200107171517.f6HFHWo41765@harmony.village.org> To: stuart@bh90210.net Subject: Re: Dell I8000 + FreeBsd 4.3 + Newbie = HELP! Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 17 Jul 2001 10:10:02 -0000." <9j12tq+bbek@eGroups.com> References: <9j12tq+bbek@eGroups.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 09:17:32 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <9j12tq+bbek@eGroups.com> stuart@bh90210.net writes: : I know the issues I had to surmount with Linux and the Dell I8K, so : rather than loose more hairs, I am going to ask for advice in advance. : : a) PCMCIA issues? None. : b) How do I get XFree86 going (this I tryed, and well, I am still : asking you how!)? People on the list have these. If you wait a few days, I'll have one. :-) Maybe even today. It shipped, according to Dell, on Thursday 3-5 day. That puts the first possible day of its arrival at today. : c) Sound? No idea. I've heard that it just works from some folks that have it. : d) CD-RW/DVD? ata driver should attach these as acd. : e) Getting 1600x1200 (ATI M4 32MB card)? See b). : f) Intel built in ethernet board, will it work? Ethernet will work. Maybe there are some issues with suspend. : g) WinModem (ActionTec), will it work? Might. I think there's a driver that isn't in the tree yet. : h) LS-120? afd. : Anything I may have overlooked? Not that I can think of. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Jul 17 10:51:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from freeway.dcfinc.com (cx74889-a.phnx3.az.home.com [24.1.193.157]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6021137B405 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 10:51:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chad@freeway.dcfinc.com) Received: (from chad@localhost) by freeway.dcfinc.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id KAA01816; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 10:51:29 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from chad) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 10:51:28 -0700 From: "Chad R. Larson" To: Greg Smith Cc: "A. G. Nair" , mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD and OnTrack DDO Message-ID: <20010717105128.A1558@freeway.dcfinc.com> References: <01a901c10e7d$d0703540$7ab50241@jrsycty1.nj.home.com> <200107162238520660.032CE247@smtp.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200107162238520660.032CE247@smtp.mail.yahoo.com>; from freebsd_mail@yahoo.com on Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 10:38:52PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jul 16, 2001 at 10:38:52PM -0700, Greg Smith wrote: > Well I'm sorry I don't have the DDO answer, but I can tell you what I > did when I had the same problem. > > My ThinkPad 600 BIOS also is limited to seeing about 8GB of my > replacement 20GB hard drive. So I put Win95 in the first 7.5GB, then > FreeBSD after that. As long as the root partition of FreeBSD is fully > before cylinder 1024 (guaranteeing BIOS can do its boot things) > everyone is happy. > > This solution doesn't require DDO or any other BIOS tricks. I use the > FreeBSD MBR. I'm limited to 7.5GB for Windows and the rest for > FreeBSD, but that is not too bad. I had to replace the 500 mbyte hard drive in my Toshiba Portage T3400CT when a baggage gorilla dropped it. The smallest drive I could find these days was 2GB, and the Toshiba BIOS couldn't see beyond 800 mbytes. I used an OnTrack-like product downloaded from the Fujitsu web site. When it starts, it gives you an option (catch it before a countdown timer expires) to boot without it loading BIOS extensions that otherwise replace the ROM-based disk BIOS routines. They think the reason you'd want to not load the extensions is if you're booting from a floppy, but what do they know? So, I put all four fdisk partitions to work. The first two were rather small, both fitting in the first 800meg. One was the MS-DOS "C:\" drive and the other was a FreeBSD root. The other were an MS-DOS "D:\" drive (accessable from DOS only with the BIOS extensions loaded) and the other was the rest of the drive, mounted as /usr under FreeBSD. So, at boot time, if allowed to go normally, the BIOS extensions are loaded (from blocks 3->63, I believe) and Windows 95 boots up thinking it has 2 drives totalling about a gigabyte. If I slap it during the countdown timer, it doesn't load the extensions and the ROM-BIOS boots FreeBSD which also thinks it has two drives totalling about a gigabyte. Once I figured out where all the pieces had to go and in what order, it isn't bad at all to use. -crl -- Chad R. Larson (CRL15) 602-953-1392 Brother, can you paradigm? chad@dcfinc.com chad@larsons.org larson1@home.com DCF, Inc. - 14623 North 49th Place, Scottsdale, Arizona 85254-2207 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Jul 17 17:43: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f116.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B67CA37B407 for ; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 17:43:04 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from part_lion@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 17:43:04 -0700 Received: from 24.130.176.212 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 00:43:04 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.130.176.212] From: "Joesh Juphland" To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: trying to use _two_ pcmcia NICs at same time (ep0 ep1) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 18:43:04 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jul 2001 00:43:04.0526 (UTC) FILETIME=[9AE79EE0:01C10F22] Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am trying to use two identical 'ep' cards at the same time, but it is not working - I tried adding a second config line to pccard.conf, but no dice....can someone help with this? /etc/rc.conf looks like this: pccard_enable="YES" pccard_mem="DEFAULT" pccardd_flags=" -i 10 -i 15" removable_interfaces="ep0 ep1" /etc/defaults/pccard.conf has this: io 0x240-0x360 irq 10 15 memory 0xd4000 96k and I added a second config line to the ep0 line like this: config auto "ep" 10 config auto "ep" 15 (the rest of the 3c589 A/B/C/D entry is unchanged) So when I boot with the two 3com cards in the system, only one of them works - it comes up at port 0x240-0x24f irq 10 slot 0. When the second one tries to come up, it says: "No free configuration for card 3com...." Any help is appreciated. I would also like to know what "no free configuration for..." means - does that mean there is no free irq for it ? or something else ? thanks! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Jul 17 22: 4:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f187.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.187]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFAE537B401; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 22:04:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from part_lion@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 22:04:43 -0700 Received: from 24.130.176.212 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 05:04:43 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.130.176.212] From: "Joesh Juphland" To: hackers@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: please confirm or deny - bridging possible between PC cards ? Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 23:04:43 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jul 2001 05:04:43.0607 (UTC) FILETIME=[28494670:01C10F47] Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ok, so I finally got two identical "ep" cards to come up at the same time and both work. Thanks. But when I run: sysctl -w net.link.ether.bridge=1 Nothing happens. They don't get put in promiscuous mode, and bridging does not get turned on, even though I have bridging in my kernel. Can anyone shed any light on this subject ? Does it not work with pc cards ? Or is there a secret trick I need to do ? thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Jul 17 22: 9:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f233.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E53B137B403; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 22:09:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from part_lion@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Tue, 17 Jul 2001 22:09:24 -0700 Received: from 24.130.176.212 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 05:09:24 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.130.176.212] From: "Joesh Juphland" To: hackers@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Details ... (please confirm or deny pccard bridging) Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2001 23:09:24 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jul 2001 05:09:24.0765 (UTC) FILETIME=[CFDE94D0:01C10F47] Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org /etc/rc.conf looks like this: pccard_enable="YES" pccard_mem="DEFAULT" pccardd_flags=" -i 10 -i 15" removable_interfaces="ep0 ep1" network_interfaces="lo0" (I have tried with and without that last lo0 line) and /etc/defaults/pccard.conf looks like this: config auto "ep0" 10 config auto "ep1" 15 so anyway, both cards come up just fine, LED on the dongle is lit, and everything is great - BUT - when I sysctl -w net.link.ether.bridge=1 nothing happens ... nobody goes into promiscuous mode... any ideas ? thanks! _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Jul 18 1:15:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from silence.serial.nl (a94089.upc-a.chello.nl [62.163.94.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C946A37B401 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 01:15:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from serial@serial.nl) Received: from highway (win2k [192.168.0.2]) by silence.serial.nl (8.11.4/8.11.3) with SMTP id f6I8Fb851454 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 10:15:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from serial@serial.nl) Message-ID: <010901c10f62$4ad306c0$0200a8c0@highway> From: "Silvester v.d. Leer" To: Subject: Crystal CS4281 on toshiba laptop != working on FBSD 4.3-STABLE Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 10:18:57 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0106_01C10F73.0E233A90" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0106_01C10F73.0E233A90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, I'm having a problem getting the Crystal Cs4281 audio controller to work = on my toshiba sattelite 1730CDT I keep getting the same error whatever i try as config The extra options i have in my kernel are=20 device PCM device CSA i've tried to compile the kernel with=20 options USERCONFIG but the device isn't showing up within boot -c here is the output of my dmesg (showing only relevant lines) uhci0: irq 10 at device 7.2 on = pci0 uhci0: Could not map ports device_probe_and_attach: uhci0 attach returned 6 chip1: port 0x1040-0x104f at = device 7.3 on pci0 pcm0: irq 5 at device 8.0 on pci0 pcm0: unable to allocate register space device_probe_and_attach: pcm0 attach returned 6 you see there is the same problem with the usb controller is there anyone who has a usefull sollution ? i've searched trough ever = site/mailling list i could find nothing usefull for this problem. hope to see some nice sollutions soon, Greets Silvester v.d. Leer ------=_NextPart_000_0106_01C10F73.0E233A90 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all,
 
I'm having a problem getting the = Crystal Cs4281=20 audio controller to work on my toshiba sattelite 1730CDT
 
I keep getting the same error = whatever i try=20 as config
 
The extra options i have in my kernel = are=20
device PCM
device CSA
 
i've tried to compile the kernel with =
options USERCONFIG
but the device isn't showing up within = boot=20 -c
 
here is the output of my dmesg (showing = only=20 relevant lines)
 
uhci0: <Intel 82371AB/EB (PIIX4) USB = controller> irq 10 at device 7.2 on pci0
uhci0: Could not map=20 ports
device_probe_and_attach: uhci0 attach returned 6
chip1: = <Intel=20 82371AB Power management controller> port 0x1040-0x104f at device 7.3 = on=20 pci0
pcm0: <Crystal Semiconductor CS4281> irq 5 at device 8.0 = on=20 pci0
pcm0: unable to allocate register = space
device_probe_and_attach: pcm0=20 attach returned 6
 
you see there is the same problem with = the usb=20 controller
 
is there anyone who has a usefull = sollution ? i've=20 searched trough ever site/mailling list i could find nothing usefull for = this=20 problem.
 
hope to see some nice sollutions = soon,
 
Greets
Silvester v.d. Leer
 
 
------=_NextPart_000_0106_01C10F73.0E233A90-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Jul 18 1:23:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f180.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.180]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F38337B403 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 01:23:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from part_lion@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 01:23:43 -0700 Received: from 24.130.176.212 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 08:23:43 GMT X-Originating-IP: [24.130.176.212] From: "Joesh Juphland" To: nsayer@quack.kfu.com Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Details ... (please confirm or deny pccard bridging) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 02:23:43 -0600 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 18 Jul 2001 08:23:43.0451 (UTC) FILETIME=[F4FCE2B0:01C10F62] Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This solved it. Thanks a lot. > >Joesh Juphland wrote: > >> >>/etc/rc.conf looks like this: >> >>pccard_enable="YES" >>pccard_mem="DEFAULT" >>pccardd_flags=" -i 10 -i 15" >>removable_interfaces="ep0 ep1" >>network_interfaces="lo0" >> >>(I have tried with and without that last lo0 line) >> >>and /etc/defaults/pccard.conf looks like this: >> >>config auto "ep0" 10 >>config auto "ep1" 15 >> >> >>so anyway, both cards come up just fine, LED on the dongle is lit, and >>everything is great - BUT - when I sysctl -w net.link.ether.bridge=1 >>nothing happens ... nobody goes into promiscuous mode... > > >You must use sysctl -w net.link.ether.bridge_refresh=1 whenever an >interface appears or disappears after boot. > > >> >>any ideas ? >> >>thanks! >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp >> >> >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > > > _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Jul 18 8:17:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mail.numachi.com (numachi.numachi.com [198.175.254.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7BE9237B401 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 08:17:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from reichert@natto.numachi.com) Received: (qmail 19387 invoked by uid 3001); 18 Jul 2001 15:17:34 -0000 Received: from natto.numachi.com (198.175.254.216) by numachi.numachi.com with SMTP; 18 Jul 2001 15:17:34 -0000 Received: (qmail 71446 invoked by uid 1001); 18 Jul 2001 15:17:34 -0000 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 11:17:34 -0400 From: Brian Reichert To: Joesh Juphland Cc: nsayer@quack.kfu.com, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Details ... (please confirm or deny pccard bridging) Message-ID: <20010718111734.N49286@numachi.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from part_lion@hotmail.com on Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 02:23:43AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 02:23:43AM -0600, Joesh Juphland wrote: > > This solved it. Thanks a lot. > > > > >Joesh Juphland wrote: > >You must use sysctl -w net.link.ether.bridge_refresh=1 whenever an > >interface appears or disappears after boot. Cool! Other than the source, where is this option documented? :) And: can any bridging work over USB NICs? -- Brian 'you Bastard' Reichert 37 Crystal Ave. #303 Daytime number: (603) 434-6842 Derry NH 03038-1713 USA Intel architecture: the left-hand path To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Jul 18 9:44:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from quack.kfu.com (quack.kfu.com [205.178.90.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A6CD37B401 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 09:44:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Received: from medusa.kfu.com (medusa.kfu.com [3ffe:1200:301b:0:290:27ff:fed1:576b]) by quack.kfu.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6IGi7J95400 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified OK); Wed, 18 Jul 2001 09:44:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) From: Nick Sayer Received: from kfu.com (localhost.kfu.com [127.0.0.1]) (authenticated) by medusa.kfu.com (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6IGi6v11378; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 09:44:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nsayer@kfu.com) Received: from 205.178.90.249 (SquirrelMail authenticated user nsayer) by medusa.kfu.com with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 09:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <1158.205.178.90.249.995474647.squirrel@medusa.kfu.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 09:44:07 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: Details ... (please confirm or deny pccard bridging) To: In-Reply-To: <20010718111734.N49286@numachi.com> References: <20010718111734.N49286@numachi.com> Cc: , X-Mailer: SquirrelMail (version 1.1.2) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Filter-Version: 1.3 (medusa.kfu.com) Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Wed, Jul 18, 2001 at 02:23:43AM -0600, Joesh Juphland wrote: >> >> This solved it. Thanks a lot. >> >> > >> >Joesh Juphland wrote: >> >You must use sysctl -w net.link.ether.bridge_refresh=1 whenever an >> >interface appears or disappears after boot. > > Cool! Other than the source, where is this option documented? :) I am not sure if it ever was. In current, IIRC the mechanism is automatic and the automaticness just never got MFCed. > And: can any bridging work over USB NICs? Bridging will work over any interface that can transmit and receive promiscuously (so far as I know, none of the 802.11b cards can do it, unfortunately). Whether it works _well_ or not depends on the efficiency of the interface, which argues strongly in favor of PCI cards with excellent DMA capabilities. This almost totally disqualifies pccard interfaces because they are incapable of DMA and argues against USB interfaces because of the low bandwidth of USB combined with the large amount of CPU handholding that USB interfaces need (hint: USB is largely a polled system). Of course, with a laptop you often don't have a choice. IMNSHO, this form of bridging is deprecated in favor of netgraph bridging, which I think is a bit easier to configure. See share/examples/netgraph/ether.bridge . To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Jul 18 14:25: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from itsdsv1.enc.edu (fw1.enc.edu [63.85.52.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E44137B403 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 14:24:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owensc@enc.edu) Received: from enc.edu (r2s1.r.its.enc.edu [10.100.0.21]) by itsdsv1.enc.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id RAA21471; Mon, 16 Jul 2001 17:03:05 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B535AE1.1467A80A@enc.edu> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2001 17:21:37 -0400 From: "Charles N. Owens" Organization: Eastern Nazarene College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Cc: Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net Subject: Netgear FA410TXC timeouts Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------041BFBBCAC1B8963CFFB0590" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------041BFBBCAC1B8963CFFB0590 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Howdy, I'm trying to get this PCMCIA NIC to work with my Compaq Presario 1235 laptop... running FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE. Synopsis: After applying patches I can transmit but not receive. As many others have apparently found it likes to produce "ed1: device timeout" messages rather than move bits on the wire. My digging in the mailing lists, freebsddiary.org, etc. brought me to PR misc/25147 (submitted by Gerhard Sittig) as potentially the best bet for getting it to work. [http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25147] So.. I've applied all patches exactly as shown and the end result is that it now transmits (e.g. ping) make the activity light blink but nothing is received and I'm still seeing the "device timeout" message. 'netstat -i' shows Opkts corresponding to the number of pings that I sent out with Oerrs a few less (e.g. Opkts=8, Oerrs=5). Ipkts, Ierrs, Coll are all at zero. Before the patches were applied the activity light did not blink on transmit. Not much progress I guess... but it's _something_, at least. I'm not sure about hardware settings issues (IRQ, etc.)... I'm new to the BSD_on_laptop thing. But when ed1 gets configured the kernel message that appears is: ed1 at port 0x300-0x31f irq 11 slot 0 on pccard0 ed1: address 00:e0:98:..., type Linksys (16 bit) ... which _seems_ reasonable... but is it correct? If not, what should it be and how do I fix it? My /etc/pccard.conf is adapted from Gerhard's example: card "NETGEAR" "FA410TX" config auto "ed" ? 0x80000 insert /usr/local/sbin/fa_select -b $ioaddr $device 0; /etc/pccard_ether $device start remove /etc/pccard_ether $device stop So... where am I going wrong? Please help! :-) Thanks much, -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles N. Owens Email: owensc@enc.edu http://www.enc.edu/~owensc Senior Technology Officer Information Technology Services Eastern Nazarene College ------------------------------------------------------------------------- --------------041BFBBCAC1B8963CFFB0590 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Howdy,

I'm trying to get this PCMCIA NIC to work with my Compaq Presario 1235 laptop... running FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE.
Synopsis:  After applying patches I can transmit but not receive.

As many others have apparently found it likes to produce "ed1: device timeout" messages rather than move bits on the wire.  My digging in the mailing lists, freebsddiary.org, etc. brought me to PR misc/25147 (submitted by Gerhard Sittig) as potentially the best bet for getting it to work.  [http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25147]

So.. I've applied all patches exactly as shown and the end result is that it now transmits (e.g. ping) make the activity light blink but nothing is received and I'm still seeing the "device timeout" message.  'netstat -i' shows Opkts corresponding to the number of pings that I sent out with Oerrs a few less (e.g. Opkts=8, Oerrs=5).  Ipkts, Ierrs, Coll are all at zero.

Before the patches were applied the activity light did not blink on transmit.  Not much progress I guess... but it's _something_, at least.

I'm not sure about hardware settings issues (IRQ, etc.)... I'm new to the BSD_on_laptop thing.  But when ed1 gets configured the kernel message that appears is: 

ed1 at port 0x300-0x31f irq 11 slot 0 on pccard0
ed1: address 00:e0:98:..., type Linksys (16 bit)
... which _seems_ reasonable... but is it correct?  If not, what should it be and how do I fix it?

My /etc/pccard.conf is adapted from Gerhard's example: 

card "NETGEAR" "FA410TX"
      config  auto "ed" ? 0x80000
      insert  /usr/local/sbin/fa_select -b $ioaddr $device 0; /etc/pccard_ether $device start
      remove  /etc/pccard_ether $device stop
So... where am I going wrong?  Please help!  :-)

Thanks much,
--
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                                            http://www.enc.edu/~owensc
  Senior Technology Officer
  Information Technology Services              Eastern Nazarene College

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  --------------041BFBBCAC1B8963CFFB0590-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Jul 18 19:43:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from w2xo.pgh.pa.us (18.gibs5.xdsl.nauticom.net [209.195.184.19]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AC0E37B401 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 19:43:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from durham@w2xo.pgh.pa.us) Received: from jimslaptop.int (jimslaptop.int [192.168.5.8]) by w2xo.pgh.pa.us (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6J2qZm50771 for ; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 22:52:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from durham@w2xo.pgh.pa.us) Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2001 22:44:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Durham X-X-Sender: To: Subject: External Monitor on Dell Inspiron Fix (sorta) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If you are using an External monitor on a Dell Inspiron laptop with the ATI Rage Mobility chip, then maybe this will help you. The "ati" and "r128" drivers both, in the presence of an external monitor, come up in limbo when X 4.03 starts up. Initially, there is nothing on either the LCD or the external monitor .You have to hit the FN/LCD-CRT keys 3 times to get the external monitor to work. Then, when you go to a vty and try to go back to X, you have to do the whole thing all over again. This was threatening to make me "battier" than I already am 8-). I solved this by changing to the "vesa" driver. While not ideal, it works. The laptop now comes up on the external monitor and returns to X when you hit the F5 key, like it should (or F however-many-vtys-u-have). If you are a gamer, the vesa driver does not support 2D/3D, however 8-( . Now, why does my parallel printer work fine on the parallel port on the rear of the computer, but not on the one on the docking station? Any Inspiron users fixed this one? -Jim Durham To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Jul 18 23:26:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6360F37B401; Wed, 18 Jul 2001 23:26:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6J6QhF31223; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 00:26:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f6J6Qho54409; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 00:26:43 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200107190626.f6J6Qho54409@harmony.village.org> To: Shizuka Kudo Subject: Re: wi0 watchdog timeout with latest pccard MFC Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 17 Jul 2001 09:21:11 PDT." <20010717162111.97955.qmail@web11406.mail.yahoo.com> References: <20010717162111.97955.qmail@web11406.mail.yahoo.com> Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 00:26:43 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <20010717162111.97955.qmail@web11406.mail.yahoo.com> Shizuka Kudo writes: : Yes, your PIR patch (pcic-stable.diff.6) did work for : me (which was before your MFC). I have copied your PIR : & pccard codes into latest stable codes and created a : diff file. It is working for my configuation right : now. Attached are the diff file and my dmesg using PIR : codes. Thanks! : I just wonder if your MFC codes were the correct way : to deal with this configuration in long term. Long term, I'd like to merge the rest of the patches. I'm merging things in stable so that by the end of the month things work. However, there are still a number if issues that need to be resolved before I pull the trigger. So my MFC isn't sufficient for your configuration. Nor is it intended to be yet. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jul 19 3:53:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from dandelion.geeksimplex.org (cc53440-a.catv1.md.home.com [24.18.90.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9605A37B401 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 03:53:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from icognito@geeksimplex.org) Received: from icognito by dandelion.geeksimplex.org with local (Exim 3.22 #1 (Debian)) id 15NBQU-0004tx-00 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 06:53:02 -0400 Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 06:53:02 -0400 From: Gabriel Rocha To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Sound on IBM Thinkpad T20 Message-ID: <20010719065301.B15043@geeksimplex.org> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.18i Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have seen reports of other with this laptop that have sound working, so I am figuring there is something I am doing wrong. I will attach my dmesg and my kernel config file. I keep getting this same error over and over again. I thought It was an irq conflict with my usb, but since disablign usb, i get the same exact error. I have searched the archives and a few people have had the same problem, but no one has posted a solution. So I post again. I get this message when I try to play sound on my laptop: pcm0: play interrupt timeout, channel dead over and over and over again... here is my full kernel config and my full dmesg, because I have no idea what I am doing wrong. Thanks in advance for replies. --gabe Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #14: Thu Jul 19 02:40:11 PDT 2001 root@abigail.neutraldomain.org:/usr/src/sys/compile/abigail Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (696.97-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x686 Stepping = 6 Features=0x383f9ff real memory = 268369920 (262080K bytes) avail memory = 257998848 (251952K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0348000. Preloaded elf module "linux.ko" at 0xc034809c. Preloaded elf module "agp.ko" at 0xc034813c. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 agp0: mem 0xf8000000-0xfbffffff at device 0.0 on pci0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 0.0 irq 11 pcic-pci0: mem 0x50000000-0x50000fff irq 11 at device 2.0 on pci0 pcic-pci0: TI12XX PCI Config Reg: [ring enable][speaker enable][pwr save][FUNC pci int + CSC serial isa irq] pcic-pci1: mem 0x50100000-0x50100fff irq 11 at device 2.1 on pci0 pcic-pci1: TI12XX PCI Config Reg: [ring enable][speaker enable][pwr save][FUNC pci int + CSC serial isa irq] xl0: <3Com 3c556B Fast Etherlink XL> port 0x1800-0x18ff mem 0xe8101000-0xe810107f,0xe8101400-0xe810147f irq 11 at device 3.0 on pci0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:01:03:84:ae:81 miibus0: on xl0 nsphy0: on miibus0 nsphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto pci0: (vendor=0x10b7, dev=0x1007) at 3.1 irq 11 csa0: mem 0xe8000000-0xe80fffff,0xe8100000-0xe8100fff irq 11 at device 5.0 on pci0 pcm0: on csa0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x1c00-0x1c0f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at 7.2 irq 11 chip0: port 0x1040-0x104f at device 7.3 on pci0 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> pcic0: at port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 on isa0 pcic0: Polling mode pccard0: on pcic0 pccard1: on pcic0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 ad0: 11509MB [24944/15/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 acd0: DVD-ROM at ata1-master using PIO4 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a pcm0: play interrupt timeout, channel dead pcm0: play interrupt timeout, channel dead pcm0: play interrupt timeout, channel dead pcm0: play interrupt timeout, channel dead machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident abigail maxusers 32 options INET #InterNETworking options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options NFS #Network Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options USER_LDT #allow user-level control of i386 ldt options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev device isa device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Power management support (see LINT for more options) device apm0 at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support device card device pcic0 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 device pcic1 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable # Serial (COM) ports device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5 device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9 # Parallel port #device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 #device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) #device lpt # Printer #device ppi # Parallel port interface device # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! device miibus # MII bus support device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # PRISM I IEEE 802.11b wireless NIC. device awi # WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really # exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attachment needed # and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard code. device wi # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocate. pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) pseudo-device speaker #Play IBM BASIC-style noises out your speaker # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter # USB support #device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface #device usb # USB Bus (required) #device ugen # Generic #device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" #device ukbd # Keyboard #device ulpt # Printer #device ums # Mouse # pcm: PCM audio through various sound cards. # see the pcm.4 man page. device csa # Crystal Semiconductor CS461x/428x PCI device pcm -- "It's not brave if you're not scared." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jul 19 6:43: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ravel.n2.net (ravel.n2.net [207.113.132.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 903C637B405 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 06:43:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blovett@venus.bsdguru.com) Received: from venus.bsdguru.com (venus.bsdguru.com [207.113.133.11]) by ravel.n2.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6JDh1A18552 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 06:43:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by venus.bsdguru.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D34D35892; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 06:42:56 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 06:42:56 -0700 From: Ben Lovett To: FreeBSD mobile list Subject: Re: Disk clicking... (Was: Re: Dell Inspiron 8000 and suspend-to-disk) Message-ID: <20010719064256.A59286@bsdguru.com> Mail-Followup-To: Ben Lovett , FreeBSD mobile list References: <01D4D419B1A4D111A30400805FE65B13070AC38F@nmrusdunsx1.nielsenmedia.com> <3B53C11B.1E692E47@ufl.edu> <20010717150829.P70499@wantadilla.lemis.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010717150829.P70499@wantadilla.lemis.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.19i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD venus 4.3-20010713-STABLE X-Moon: The Moon is Waning Crescent (3% of Full) X-GPG-Key: http://www.oneinsane.net/~blovett/blovett.pgp X-GPG-Fingerprint: C75F A722 1518 03B8 26C3 77A1 7C76 8AFA EBAB 2004 X-Disclaimer: All things expressed here are my opinions only, and not those of any past, present or future employers. X-Organization: San Diego BSD Users Group [http://www.sdbug.org] X-Uptime: 6:29AM up 19:14, 6 users, load averages: 0.07, 0.23, 0.22 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I believe I saw Greg Lehey (grog@FreeBSD.org) write this: > On Tuesday, 17 July 2001 at 0:37:47 -0400, Bob Johnson wrote: > > David Gray wrote: > >> > >> I have an older Toshiba Tecra with a 5G IBM drive that does this. It > >> runs *extremely* slowly under load. It appears to be re-calibrating > >> (thats what a seek to home position, then back to the target track > >> is called) constantly. This is related to the ATA driver. If I use > >> the WD driver (deprecated), it works just fine. Or, {shudder}, Win95. > >> > > > > Well, you got me curious, so I started paying close attention to > > what my Inspiron 7500 is doing. I even booted Windows (the things > > I do for FreeBSD...) and used it for a while. > > > > So here's what I think I am hearing: > > > > 1) Seeks are a fairly noisy operation on this drive. Activities > > that only require track-to-track seeks (or at least short seeks) > > are quiet, e.g. deleting /usr/obj or booting FreeBSD in the first > > place. Things that move the heads long distances are noisy. > > > > 2) The drive parks after 8 seconds (roughly) of inactivity. This > > operation is fairly noisy and takes about 1/2 second. It is > > distinguished by the fact that the disk activity light does not > > come on when you hear the activity. The park operation probably > > includes a calibration (that would help explain why it takes so > > long). > > > > 3) Because the heads are parked, any new activity begins with an > > initial seek that covers enough distance to be fairly noisy. > > It takes long enough that I suspect it includes a calibration. > > > > 4) There is not noticable difference in disk activity or the amount > > of disk noise that I hear in Windows and FreeBSD. There is enough > > ram in the system that neither needs to be doing swapping. Almost > > any activity in Netscape causes a noisy disk operation (this may > > be more prominent in FreeBSD, but if so I think it is a function > > of the application, not the operating system). Yes. Originally, I did not notice any similarity in the sounds the disk made when in Windows as compared to FreeBSD, but after running it for an extended period of time, I have heard the very same sounds.. Mozilla appears to force my system to swap, so naturally, my disk makes a little more noise than normal while I'm browsing. > > > > 5) The noises are present even in the early stages of a cold boot, > > when the BIOS is still controlling the system. My system has a > > boot password set, and when it stops to wait for that password, > > I hear the drive park, for instance. > > > > 6) The sound of the spinning disk seems to be getting louder > > with time. I hope that's my imagination, because I consider it > > to be far more sinister than noisy seek operations. It is a sign > > of failing bearings. Maybe I should see if I can get Dell to > > replace it before it fails, instead of waiting for it to do so. > > Nice analysis. I don't have mine here for comparison, but note that I > had this problem from new, complained about it and got a new machine > (it wasn't the only thing I complained about). The new machine was > about one month newer than the old, came with a faster processor and > as far as I can see the same drive, but it doesn't make nearly as much > noise. > > It's difficult to describe the sounds it makes; it's quite possible > we're talking about two different levels of sound here. Certainly > there wasn't anything as regular about the sounds as you describe. > We could very possibly be having different sounds, and I guess the only way we could determine if it is the same sound, would be for me to try to record it... > Greg > -- > See complete headers for address and phone numbers > Thanks for taking the time to do this analysis Bob! -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Ben Lovett printf("Hello world!); blovett@bsdguru.com return 0; -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Intel: where Quality is job number 0.9998782345! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jul 19 13:24:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (fac13.ds.psu.edu [146.186.61.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEF0F37B401 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 13:24:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu) Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (localhost.ds.psu.edu [127.0.0.1]) by fac13.ds.psu.edu (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6JKOCN12264 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 16:24:12 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu) Message-Id: <200107192024.f6JKOCN12264@fac13.ds.psu.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: A21p has 640x480 text consoles From: "Richard E. Hawkins" Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 16:24:12 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Something weird happened a couple of days ago, and now the text consoles and initial boot on my A21p are now 640x480, in the middle ninth or so of the screen. This seems to be in hardware, as the bios and windows text screens react the same way. Has anyone seen such a thing? Any idea how to get rid of it? hawk -- Prof. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These opinions will not be those of X and postings Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jul 19 14:43:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 66EED37B406 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 14:43:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f6JLhLC06329; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 14:43:21 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 14:43:21 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: "Richard E. Hawkins" Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: A21p has 640x480 text consoles Message-ID: <20010719144321.A5674@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <200107192024.f6JKOCN12264@fac13.ds.psu.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200107192024.f6JKOCN12264@fac13.ds.psu.edu>; from dochawk@psu.edu on Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 04:24:12PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 19, 2001 at 04:24:12PM -0400, Richard E. Hawkins wrote: >=20 > Something weird happened a couple of days ago, and now the text=20 > consoles and initial boot on my A21p are now 640x480, in the middle=20 > ninth or so of the screen. This seems to be in hardware, as the bios=20 > and windows text screens react the same way. Has anyone seen such a=20 > thing? Any idea how to get rid of it? This is usually the default. To get them back to full screen, you can enable screen scaling or something similer in the BIOS. It's also possiable you have a Fn key combination that will do it. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7V1R5XY6L6fI4GtQRAoCUAKDalCz/R2Ye4ilyqWLGcfAQyNZVnACaAosq HoTmkEPW3PbincdQIjLACt0= =5yjR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bg08WKrSYDhXBjb5-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Thu Jul 19 17: 5:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ds9.dreamhaven.org (dt055n06.san.rr.com [24.30.153.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56E1937B403 for ; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 17:05:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from data@dreamhaven.org) Received: from data (helo=localhost) by ds9.dreamhaven.org with local-esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 15NNnU-0005tE-00 for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Thu, 19 Jul 2001 17:05:36 -0700 Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2001 17:05:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Bryce Newall To: Subject: Mouse & VMWare troubles Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, I hope I'm posting to the right list about this, since I'mm using FreeBSD on a laptop. Here goes... I've recently installed FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE on my newly-acquired Dell Latitude C600 notebook. For the most part, everything works fine. I have run into a couple of difficulties, though: 1) Mouse -- I have noticed that, in X, simply clicking the mouse button doesn't seem to register. It only works when I move the pointer slightly while clicking, which is kind of a pain. I don't have this problem outside of X, just using moused. I wondered if anyone else has run into this, and if so, if a solution has been found. It doesn't seem to matter which WM I use, either -- tvtwm, fvwm, and afterstep all exhibit the same behavior. 2) VMWare -- I am trying to set it up using an existing virtual disk, but in doing so, VMWare tells me it can't find any of hd[a-l]. Which makes sense, since this is FreeBSD and not Linux, but is there a way to get VMWare to see ad0 as hda? I have tried a few tricks, like making symlinks, but nothing has worked. Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated! Thanks, ********************************************************* * Bryce Newall * Email: data@dreamhaven.org * * www.dreamhaven.org/~data * * "Computers make very fast, very accurate mistakes." * ********************************************************* To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Jul 20 6:18:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from itsdsv1.enc.edu (fw1.enc.edu [63.85.52.127]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5A737B403 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 06:18:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from owensc@enc.edu) Received: from enc.edu (r2s1.r.its.enc.edu [10.100.0.21]) by itsdsv1.enc.edu (8.7.5/8.7.3) with ESMTP id JAA09483; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:16:28 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B5833B8.EE9CE5B0@enc.edu> Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:35:52 -0400 From: "Charles N. Owens" Organization: Eastern Nazarene College X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Cc: Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net Subject: Netgear FA410TXC timeouts Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [my apologies if you've seen this before. I've had some reverse DNS issues and I _think_ my previous posting attempts where rejected] Howdy, I'm trying to get this PCMCIA NIC to work with my Compaq Presario 1235 laptop... running FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE. Synopsis: After applying patches I can transmit but not receive. As many others have apparently found it likes to produce "ed1: device timeout" messages rather than move bits on the wire. My digging in the mailing lists, freebsddiary.org, etc. brought me to PR misc/25147 (submitted by Gerhard Sittig) as potentially the best bet for getting it to work. [http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25147] So.. I've applied all patches exactly as shown and the end result is that it now transmits (e.g. ping) make the activity light blink but nothing is received and I'm still seeing the "device timeout" message. 'netstat -i' shows Opkts corresponding to the number of pings that I sent out with Oerrs a few less (e.g. Opkts=8, Oerrs=5). Ipkts, Ierrs, Coll are all at zero. Before the patches were applied the activity light did not blink on transmit. Not much progress I guess... but it's _something_, at least. I'm not sure about hardware settings issues (IRQ, etc.)... I'm new to the BSD_on_laptop thing. But when ed1 gets configured the kernel message that appears is: ed1 at port 0x300-0x31f irq 11 slot 0 on pccard0 ed1: address 00:e0:98:..., type Linksys (16 bit) ... which _seems_ reasonable... but is it correct? If not, what should it be and how do I fix it? My /etc/pccard.conf is adapted from Gerhard's example: card "NETGEAR" "FA410TX" config auto "ed" ? 0x80000 insert /usr/local/sbin/fa_select -b $ioaddr $device 0; /etc/pccard_ether $device start remove /etc/pccard_ether $device stop So... where am I going wrong? Please help! :-) Thanks much, -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Charles N. Owens Email: owensc@enc.edu http://www.enc.edu/~owensc Senior Technology Officer Information Technology Services Eastern Nazarene College ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Jul 20 6:23:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from xenia2.renault.fr (xenia2.renault.fr [193.194.133.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B328D37B408 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 06:23:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david.lebrun-renexter@renault.com) Received: from univers.mc2.renault.fr (root@univers.mc2.renault.fr [172.26.80.131]) by xenia2.renault.fr (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6KDNRf12541 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 15:23:27 +0200 (MET DST) X-Spam-Filter: check_local@xenia2.renault.fr by digitalanswers.org Received: from aosus019 by univers.mc2.renault.fr id PAA20808 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 15:23:26 +0200 (MET DST) Received: from [138.21.107.102] by aosus019 with ESMTP for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 15:23:26 +0200 Received: from wsmtpin01.mc2.renault.fr ([138.21.107.178]) by wsmtpout01.mc2.renault.fr (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GGRX7100.A24 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 15:23:25 +0200 Received: from pc931897.mlb.renault.fr ([138.21.11.195]) by wsmtpin01.mc2.renault.fr (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with SMTP id GGRX7100.FW2 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 15:23:25 +0200 Message-Id: <001501c1111f$26450380$c30b158a@mlb.renault.fr> From: "LEBRUN David" To: Subject: Problem with A21e Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 15:23:22 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello ! I've got a IBM Thinkpad A21e with the following hardware I can't manage to work under FreeBSD 4.3 : - sound card : it seems to be a CS4299 chipset - the internal modem : Windows says it's a Xircom Any help welcome ! Thanks David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Jul 20 6:47: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (fac13.ds.psu.edu [146.186.61.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 259F437B401 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 06:47:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu) Received: from fac13.ds.psu.edu (localhost.ds.psu.edu [127.0.0.1]) by fac13.ds.psu.edu (8.11.4/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6KDh1N20652; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:43:01 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from hawk@fac13.ds.psu.edu) Message-Id: <200107201343.f6KDh1N20652@fac13.ds.psu.edu> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "LEBRUN David" , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem with A21e In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 20 Jul 2001 15:23:22 +0200." <001501c1111f$26450380$c30b158a@mlb.renault.fr> From: dochawk@psu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 09:43:01 -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hello ! > > I've got a IBM Thinkpad A21e with the following hardware I can't manage to > work under FreeBSD 4.3 : > - sound card : it seems to be a CS4299 chipset You'll need the STABLE kernel, not release. > - the internal modem : Windows says it's a Xircom I've got instructions for both of these at: http://www.personal.psu.edu/faculty/r/e/reh18/A21p/A21p.html It should apply to the e as well, I believe. Ignore the pats about applying a patch to the kernel; the patch is now part of STABLE. hawk -- Prof. Richard E. Hawkins, Esq. /"\ ASCII ribbon campaign dochawk@psu.edu Smeal 178 (814) 375-4700 \ / against HTML mail These opinions will not be those of X and postings Penn State until it pays my retainer. / \ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Fri Jul 20 21:22:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from femail19.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail19.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.128]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EEC737B401 for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 21:22:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgowdy@home.com) Received: from cx443070b ([24.0.36.170]) by femail19.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010721042243.IEZQ12668.femail19.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx443070b> for ; Fri, 20 Jul 2001 21:22:43 -0700 Message-ID: <003b01c1119c$bd428c30$aa240018@cx443070b> From: "Jeremiah Gowdy" To: Subject: Sony WaveLAN help Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 21:22:22 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Okay, I thought I had my Sony WaveLAN card working before. I solved the lockup problems due to the Sony Vaio pccard controller wanting an IRQ, and I fixed the IRQs in my pccard.conf. I insert the card and I get wi0: at port 0x240-0x27f irq 3 slot 1 on pccard1 wi0: Ethernet address: 08:00:46:09:b4:b7 Seems all good. I'm thinking, LEET, my frickin card is working. It read the ethernet address out, and I can use wicontrol to change the settings (or so it seems). However, when I try to bind an IP address to it, I get # ifconfig wi0 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 wi0: device timeout wi0: tx buffer allocation failed wi0: xmit failed and sometimes wi0: watchdog timeout When it does the watchdog timeout, it actually redetects the card as wi1, and then repeats wi2 etc. Any ideas ? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBO1kDexo5ZtYoQIqXEQJzTgCeIAd+lDji4jn2qEq5kbwDECDx+1oAoPxx NIJNc5INU6TwoId75KYimZ6Z =6vy1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Jul 21 8:10: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from thought.adamantsys.com (w120.z064002057.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.2.57.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75BA837B403 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 08:10:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Received: from localhost (localhost.adamantsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by thought.adamantsys.com (8.11.4/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6LF8f931017; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 08:08:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 08:08:41 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian W. Buchanan" X-X-Sender: To: Jeremiah Gowdy Cc: Subject: Re: Sony WaveLAN help In-Reply-To: <003b01c1119c$bd428c30$aa240018@cx443070b> Message-ID: <20010721080651.J26545-100000@thought.adamantsys.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You have an irq conflict. Try starting pccardd with -i where is an irq your system isn't using for anything else. If you're already using an allegedly unused irq, try using a different one. Brian On Fri, 20 Jul 2001, Jeremiah Gowdy wrote: > # ifconfig wi0 10.0.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 > wi0: device timeout > wi0: tx buffer allocation failed > wi0: xmit failed To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Jul 21 8:19: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B494F37B405 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 08:18:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgowdy@home.com) Received: from cx443070b ([24.0.36.170]) by femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010721151856.TMTI20704.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx443070b>; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 08:18:56 -0700 Message-ID: <001501c111f8$69495620$aa240018@cx443070b> From: "Jeremiah Gowdy" To: "Brian W. Buchanan" Cc: References: <20010721080651.J26545-100000@thought.adamantsys.com> Subject: Re: Sony WaveLAN help Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 08:18:35 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian W. Buchanan" To: "Jeremiah Gowdy" Cc: Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 8:08 AM Subject: Re: Sony WaveLAN help > You have an irq conflict. Try starting pccardd with -i where > is an irq your system isn't using for anything else. If > you're already using an allegedly unused irq, try using a different > one. > Great, thanks. Also, I copied my pccard.conf entry from the wavelan entry, and it had both 0x1 and auto on the config line. Which means what and which would I want ? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBO1mdSBo5ZtYoQIqXEQJL0gCg+7ewOYNwNWNwJMCL/NAYyyujfOcAnRWY CEYfPtpkjHw1jNhWdaJydcwa =dSwh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Jul 21 9:15:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.86]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C2337B403 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 09:15:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgowdy@home.com) Received: from cx443070b ([24.0.36.170]) by femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010721161525.UTKM20704.femail6.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx443070b>; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 09:15:25 -0700 Message-ID: <002101c11200$4d707480$aa240018@cx443070b> From: "Jeremiah Gowdy" To: "Brian W. Buchanan" Cc: References: <20010721080651.J26545-100000@thought.adamantsys.com> Subject: Re: Sony WaveLAN help Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 09:15:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian W. Buchanan" To: "Jeremiah Gowdy" Cc: Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2001 8:08 AM Subject: Re: Sony WaveLAN help > You have an irq conflict. Try starting pccardd with -i where > is an irq your system isn't using for anything else. If > you're already using an allegedly unused irq, try using a different > one. > I got the card working completely. I am able to assign an IP, shift the card into ad-hoc mode, and ping packets out into thin air (I have no base station yet). I'm getting no error messages. My transmit light is even blinking when I ping. :) The card is using a verbatium copy of the Lucent WaveLAN entry in pccard.conf, and I just changed the IRQ to another one that I forced free in my kernel config. I have one question: how do I put my card in promisc mode ? I see the line in wicontrol, but I don't see the parameter to change it. My suggested setup help for anyone with a Sony Vaio and a Sony Vaio WaveLAN card: edit your kernel config Remove serial and parallel port entries (no choice, there are just too many irqs used) Set your first pccard controller to irq 4 (where it says irq 0) Set your second pccard controller to irq 16, and leave it marked disabled rebuild kernel edit your pccard.conf change the irq list to include only irq 7 copy the Lucent WaveLAN configuration to a new configuration with the CIS tags "Sony Corporation" "PCWA-C100" "Version 01.01" reboot -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use iQA/AwUBO1mqhRo5ZtYoQIqXEQJRKQCgndAOsC0A+uCn4P686q0FNVUIt6oAoOXq o6Y1metL5Yfkj907UiETXE/7 =e1AT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Jul 21 9:17:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from femail15.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail15.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.142]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F41F37B403 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 09:17:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jgowdy@home.com) Received: from cx443070b ([24.0.36.170]) by femail15.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.20 201-229-121-120-20010223) with SMTP id <20010721161729.WRJR13356.femail15.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cx443070b>; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 09:17:29 -0700 Message-ID: <000501c11200$96d5ab90$aa240018@cx443070b> From: "Jeremiah Gowdy" To: "Jeremiah Gowdy" , "Brian W. Buchanan" Cc: References: <20010721080651.J26545-100000@thought.adamantsys.com> <002101c11200$4d707480$aa240018@cx443070b> Subject: Re: Sony WaveLAN help Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 09:17:07 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > I have one question: how do I put my card in promisc mode ? I see > the line in wicontrol, but I don't see the parameter to change it. nm, figured that one out. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Jul 21 9:43:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from moek.pir.net (moek.pir.net [130.64.1.215]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2344937B403 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 09:43:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pir@pir.net) Received: from pir by moek.pir.net with local (Exim) id 15NzrB-0000CT-00 for freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 12:43:57 -0400 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 12:43:56 -0400 From: Peter Radcliffe To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Sony WaveLAN help Message-ID: <20010721124356.A255@pir.net> Reply-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010721080651.J26545-100000@thought.adamantsys.com> <002101c11200$4d707480$aa240018@cx443070b> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <002101c11200$4d707480$aa240018@cx443070b>; from jgowdy@home.com on Sat, Jul 21, 2001 at 09:15:04AM -0700 X-fish: < X-Copy-On-Listmail: Please do NOT Cc: me on list mail. Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jeremiah Gowdy probably said: > when I ping. :) The card is using a verbatium copy of the Lucent > WaveLAN entry in pccard.conf, and I just changed the IRQ to another > one that I forced free in my kernel config. You shouldn't have to do that. See the irq line in pccard.conf. P. -- pir pir@pir.net pir@net.tufts.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Jul 21 12:14:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from EnContacto.Net (adsl-63-205-16-205.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [63.205.16.205]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B4F737B401 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 12:14:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) Received: (from root@localhost) by EnContacto.Net (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f6LJEjE95858 for mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 12:14:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from eculp@EnContacto.Net) From: Edwin Culp Received: from 63.205.16.204 ( [63.205.16.204]) as user eculp@encontacto.net by Mail.SavvyWorld.Net with HTTP; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 12:14:44 -0700 Message-ID: <995742884.3b59d4a4b882c@Mail.SavvyWorld.Net> Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 12:14:44 -0700 To: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Compaq 1701 problems with sound and nic. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 2.3.7-cvs X-Originating-IP: 63.205.16.204 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I finally found what I think was a good buy in a laptop, a compaq 1701 PIII 850, 30 GB, 256 MB, 14" 1024x768, 5 lbs for $1,600. Out of the box I installed current, and with my trusty, three year old 2Mb Lucent Wavelan pcmcia card, cvsuped, built world, installed XFree86-4 with no problems. Now that the important stuff is working, I've still got a couple of minor issues. I can't see my sound card that according to the docs is an "ess alegro". I have tried the device pcm, pcm + sbc in my kernel config and can't even get an error message :-( cat /dev/sndstat shows no installed devices and pnpinfo responds with "No Plug-n-Play devices were found" I am also not able to get the compaq 100/10 nic to respond. It seems to want to be an SMC card but I'm not sure. I get the following in my dmesg sn0: ioaddr is 0x300 sn0: test1 failed Does anyone have any suggestions or have a similar compaq with sound and/or NIC? I'm really quite glad that I bought it even if sound and NIC don't work. An hour and 15 minute make world is a big improvement over my old k-6's almost 6 hours. A 30 gig hard drive beats 6 gig, as does 256M ram. thanks, ed ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn and relearn. --Alvin Toffler To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Jul 21 15: 0:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.whitebarn.com (Spin.whitebarn.com [216.0.13.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2682137B442 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 15:00:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Bob@Talarian.Com) Received: from Talarian.Com (NewStorm.whitebarn.com [216.0.13.77]) by smtp.whitebarn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA39091; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 17:00:28 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Bob@Talarian.Com) Message-ID: <3B59FA94.4070109@Talarian.Com> Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 16:56:36 -0500 From: Bob Van Valzah User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010628 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-Mobile@FreeBSD.Org Subject: ThinkPad 600X: Can't work out which disk we are booting from. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm running 4.2-RELEASE on a ThinkPad 600X and I'd like to upgrade to 4.3-RELEASE. I have no floppy drive so I'm thinking I have to boot from the CD-ROM to do the upgrade. The ThinkPad's BIOS does attempt to boot from the 4.3 CD-ROM but can't find the kernel: BTX loader 1.00 BTX version is 1.01 Console: internal video/keyboard BIOS drive A: is disk0 BIOS drive C: is disk1 FreeBSD/i386 bootstrap loader, Revision 0.8 (jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com, Sat Apr 21 08:46:19 GMT 2001) Can't work out which disk we are booting from. Guessed BIOS device 0x8b not found by probes, defaulting to disk0: Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. Booting [kernel]... can't load 'kernel' can't load 'kernel.old' It appears to me that the ThinkPad's CD-ROM drive doesn't show up as BIOS device. The loader's "lsdev" command confirms this: disk @ 0xece4 disk0: BIOS drive A: disk1: BIOS drive C: disk1s1: ext2fs disk1s2a: FFS disk1s2b: swap disk1s2e: FFS disk1s2f: FFS disk1s3: FAT-16 pxe @ 0xd4a0 I'm vaguely curious why this is happening, but I'm most interested in just making it work. I'd even be willing to try something with a netboot via pxe if somebody could give me a good pointer to doc on how to do that. All advice appreciated. Thanks, Bob You don't want to know (and I don't remember) all the pain I had to go through to to get 4.2-RELEASE installed on this thing without a floppy drive long ago. I know it had something to do with installing RedHat 6.2. LILO seemed to know how to get the CD-ROM drive going and you can still see the ext2fs partition in the MBR. FWIW, the machine just hangs when I ask BootEasy to try the ext2fs or FAT-16 partitions. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Jul 21 16: 8:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from lists.blarg.net (lists.blarg.net [206.124.128.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 278F537B403 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 16:08:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from coffee@blarg.net) Received: from thig.blarg.net (thig.blarg.net [206.124.128.18]) by lists.blarg.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C5F5BC84 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 16:08:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from paco.blarg.net (trilluser@paco.fatburrito.com [206.124.139.210]) by thig.blarg.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA25858 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 16:08:22 -0700 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010721155751.00b15ea0@mail.blarg.net> X-Sender: coffee@mail.blarg.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 16:11:02 -0700 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: "Derek C." Subject: CD-ROM on a Dell Inspiron 8000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone gotten the TEAC CD-ROM builtin to work with 4.3? I am upgrading to stable right now, in hopes that will help, but anyone with this laptop who knows what to do to get it working, your help would be greatly appreciated.... From my dmesg: ata0-slave: identify retries exceeded TIA, Derek To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Jul 21 17:11: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from thought.adamantsys.com (w120.z064002057.sjc-ca.dsl.cnc.net [64.2.57.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F0237B401 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 17:10:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Received: from localhost (localhost.adamantsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by thought.adamantsys.com (8.11.4/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f6M09V932317; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 17:09:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@CSUA.Berkeley.EDU) Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 17:09:31 -0700 (PDT) From: "Brian W. Buchanan" X-X-Sender: To: Jeremiah Gowdy Cc: Subject: Re: Sony WaveLAN help In-Reply-To: <002101c11200$4d707480$aa240018@cx443070b> Message-ID: <20010721170845.W26545-100000@thought.adamantsys.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org tcpdump On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, Jeremiah Gowdy wrote: > I have one question: how do I put my card in promisc mode ? I see > the line in wicontrol, but I don't see the parameter to change it. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Jul 21 17:49:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from Mail.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (mail.zedat.fu-berlin.de [130.133.1.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA4B37B401 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 17:49:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dieringe@zedat.fu-berlin.de) Received: by Mail.ZEDAT.FU-Berlin.DE (Smail3.2.0.98) from komma.zedat.fu-berlin.de (130.133.1.46) with esmtp id ; Sun, 22 Jul 2001 02:49:14 +0200 (MEST) Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 02:49:12 +0200 From: Martin Dieringer To: Bob Van Valzah Cc: FreeBSD-Mobile@FreeBSD.Org Subject: Re: ThinkPad 600X: Can't work out which disk we are booting from. In-Reply-To: <3B59FA94.4070109@Talarian.Com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, Bob Van Valzah wrote: > I'm running 4.2-RELEASE on a ThinkPad 600X and I'd like to upgrade to > 4.3-RELEASE. I have no floppy drive so I'm thinking I have to boot from > the CD-ROM to do the upgrade. The ThinkPad's BIOS does attempt to boot > from the 4.3 CD-ROM but can't find the kernel: > ... > > It appears to me that the ThinkPad's CD-ROM drive doesn't show up as > BIOS device. The loader's "lsdev" command confirms this: > ... you could try to enable irq 15 for the ultrabay via the thinkpad config in windows ("hot-swapping" for cdrom/floppy). I think that makes the cdrom the master device on 2nd controller - not shure if that helps. ...otherwise you could also just compile the sources. martin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Jul 21 18: 3:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.whitebarn.com (Spin.whitebarn.com [216.0.13.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FBDF37B405 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 18:03:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Bob@Talarian.Com) Received: from Talarian.Com (NewStorm.whitebarn.com [216.0.13.77]) by smtp.whitebarn.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA39617; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 20:03:19 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from Bob@Talarian.Com) Message-ID: <3B5A256E.2070500@Talarian.Com> Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 19:59:26 -0500 From: Bob Van Valzah User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i386; en-US; rv:0.9.2) Gecko/20010628 X-Accept-Language: en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin Dieringer Cc: FreeBSD-Mobile@FreeBSD.Org Subject: Re: ThinkPad 600X: Can't work out which disk we are booting from. References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050706070807040502000406" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------050706070807040502000406 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the tip, but I can't try that since I don't have a working Windows partition :-( But it looks like maybe it's already configured that way: $ dmesg | grep ata1 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master using PIO4 In the mean time, I've cooked up a scheme with ideas from Greg Smith that'll probably work. I extracted the 4.3 version of /stand/sysinstall from the mfsroot floppy (using another machine's floppy drive: mount, cp, unzip, vnconfig, mount). I've pulled that over the the ThinkPad via FTP and plan to just run it in single-user mode with all filesystems mounted and all fingers crossed for good luck. Bob Martin Dieringer wrote: >On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, Bob Van Valzah wrote: > >>I'm running 4.2-RELEASE on a ThinkPad 600X and I'd like to upgrade to >>4.3-RELEASE. I have no floppy drive so I'm thinking I have to boot from >>the CD-ROM to do the upgrade. The ThinkPad's BIOS does attempt to boot >>from the 4.3 CD-ROM but can't find the kernel: >>... >> >>It appears to me that the ThinkPad's CD-ROM drive doesn't show up as >>BIOS device. The loader's "lsdev" command confirms this: >>... >> > > >you could try to enable irq 15 for the ultrabay via the thinkpad config in >windows ("hot-swapping" for cdrom/floppy). I think that makes the cdrom >the master device on 2nd controller - not shure if that helps. > >...otherwise you could also just compile the sources. > >martin > --------------050706070807040502000406 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thanks for the tip, but I can't try that since I don't have a working Windows partition :-( But it looks like maybe it's already configured that way:

$ dmesg | grep ata1
ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0
acd0: CDROM <TOSHIBA CD-ROM XM-1902B> at ata1-master using PIO4

In the mean time, I've cooked up a scheme with ideas from Greg Smith that'll probably work. I extracted the 4.3 version of /stand/sysinstall from the mfsroot floppy (using another machine's floppy drive: mount, cp, unzip, vnconfig, mount). I've pulled that over the the ThinkPad via FTP and plan to just run it in single-user mode with all filesystems mounted and all fingers crossed for good luck.

    Bob

Martin Dieringer wrote:

On Sat, 21 Jul 2001, Bob Van Valzah wrote:

I'm running 4.2-RELEASE on a ThinkPad 600X and I'd like to upgrade to 
4.3-RELEASE. I have no floppy drive so I'm thinking I have to boot from 
the CD-ROM to do the upgrade. The ThinkPad's BIOS does attempt to boot 
from the 4.3 CD-ROM but can't find the kernel:
...

It appears to me that the ThinkPad's CD-ROM drive doesn't show up as 
BIOS device. The loader's "lsdev" command confirms this:
...


you could try to enable irq 15 for the ultrabay via the thinkpad config in
windows ("hot-swapping" for cdrom/floppy).  I think that makes the cdrom
the master device on 2nd controller - not shure if that helps.

...otherwise you could also just compile the sources.

martin

--------------050706070807040502000406-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sat Jul 21 19:48:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AD2237B406 for ; Sat, 21 Jul 2001 19:48:09 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (root@spare0.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.114]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id MAA09708; Sun, 22 Jul 2001 12:17:58 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.7 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.0.20010721155751.00b15ea0@mail.blarg.net> Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 12:17:53 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: "Derek C." Subject: RE: CD-ROM on a Dell Inspiron 8000 Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 21-Jul-2001 Derek C. wrote: > Has anyone gotten the TEAC CD-ROM builtin to work with 4.3? I am upgrading > to stable right now, in hopes that will help, but anyone with this laptop > who knows what to do to get it working, your help would be greatly > appreciated.... > > From my dmesg: > ata0-slave: identify retries exceeded Mine works great.. acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave using PIO4 It doesn't do DMA though - I get errors reading files if I try. Some people have said that the DVD/CDRW drives don't work unless you sleep for 60 seconds before booting the kernel (ie an autoload delay of 60s) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message