From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 16 9:57:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts8.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 682DD37B405 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 09:57:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from TMA-1.brad-x.com ([64.228.80.123]) by tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010916165716.LHWG7560.tomts8-srv.bellnexxia.net@TMA-1.brad-x.com>; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 12:57:16 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost.brad-x.com [127.0.0.1]) by TMA-1.brad-x.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD0C07B0C4; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 12:57:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 12:57:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Brad Laue To: Evan Sarmiento Cc: Subject: Re: if anyones interested In-Reply-To: <200109152329.f8FNTf101539@csa.bu.edu> Message-ID: <20010916125554.A86024-100000@TMA-1.brad-x.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Interesting experience; would you recommend 5.0-CURRENT as a usable platform? Are there any drawbacks or considerations, anything one might lose in moving from -STABLE? I'm aware that current handles carbus and several other technologies to a better extent - care to expand on this? Brad // -- http://www.BRAD-X.com/ -- // On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Evan Sarmiento wrote: > Hey, > > If anyones interested, I wrote a howto about my experience > installing FreeBSD on my Vaio SR33. > > sektor7.ath.cx:8080/sr33 > > Hope this helps, > > Evan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 16 14: 1:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 782A837B405 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:01:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8GL1Qn04442; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:01:26 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f8GL1PW23767; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:01:25 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200109162101.f8GL1PW23767@harmony.village.org> To: Brad Laue Subject: Re: if anyones interested Cc: Evan Sarmiento , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Sep 2001 12:57:33 EDT." <20010916125554.A86024-100000@TMA-1.brad-x.com> References: <20010916125554.A86024-100000@TMA-1.brad-x.com> Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:01:25 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <20010916125554.A86024-100000@TMA-1.brad-x.com> Brad Laue writes: : Interesting experience; would you recommend 5.0-CURRENT as a usable : platform? Are there any drawbacks or considerations, anything one might : lose in moving from -STABLE? I'm aware that current handles carbus and : several other technologies to a better extent - care to expand on this? My Sony VAIO 505TS is about useless with -current unless I disable ACPI. Even when I don't, something weird is/was going on with interrupts and pccard (likely due to removing an ISR inside of a different ISR for the same interrupt number). Now that 4.4 is released, I'm going to see about migrating my main laptop (the Dell Inspiron 8000) to current or a current/stable dual boot environment. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 16 14:59:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from jupiter.linuxengine.net (jupiter.linuxengine.net [209.61.188.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3777D37B40C for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 14:59:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jupiterweb.commercevault.com (jupiterweb.commercevault.com [209.61.179.16] (may be forged)) by jupiter.linuxengine.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f8GM9bP29110 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:09:37 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:09:36 -0500 (CDT) From: John Utz X-X-Sender: To: Subject: is cardbus supported in 4.4-RCX Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi; i may have gotten ahead of myself here :-( i just went out and bought an SMC 8035TX cardbus NIC under the impression that it was supported in 4.4 but the install cant find the network interface. furthermore, popping and reinserting the card gets: pcic0:BAD Vcc Request pcic0: Card type 32-bit cardbus is unsupported whoops. tnx for any facts that you can provide. -- John L. Utz III john@utzweb.net Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 16 15:11:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 954FA37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:11:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f8GMBjR15410; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:11:45 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200109162211.f8GMBjR15410@ptavv.es.net> To: John Utz Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: is cardbus supported in 4.4-RCX In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:09:36 CDT." Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:11:45 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John, I think the message is quite clear. While Werner has moved a LOT of PCCARD support code from current to release including the very wonderful PCI interrupt sharing, 32-bit support is still a ways off. After all of the fun he had with the 4.4 release, I hope he takes a little break for R&R before getting back to finishing NEWCARD in current and maybe porting it to stable. In any case, don't hold your breath on this. I'm afraid you will have to wait a while to use your new card in a FreeBSD system. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 16 15:14:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from jupiter.linuxengine.net (jupiter.linuxengine.net [209.61.188.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 110C437B412 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:14:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jupiterweb.commercevault.com (jupiterweb.commercevault.com [209.61.179.16] (may be forged)) by jupiter.linuxengine.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f8GMOPP29783; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:24:25 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:24:25 -0500 (CDT) From: John Utz X-X-Sender: To: Kevin Oberman Cc: Subject: Re: is cardbus supported in 4.4-RCX In-Reply-To: <200109162211.f8GMBjR15410@ptavv.es.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Kevin Oberman wrote: > John, > > I think the message is quite clear. hmm, then is 16 bit supported? - i jut reconf'd the bios and i am trying that now. that would be fine at this point...... > While Werner has moved a LOT of PCCARD support code from current to > release including the very wonderful PCI interrupt sharing, 32-bit > support is still a ways off. After all of the fun he had with the 4.4 > release, I hope he takes a little break for R&R before getting back to > finishing NEWCARD in current and maybe porting it to stable. In any > case, don't hold your breath on this. I'm afraid you will have to wait > a while to use your new card in a FreeBSD system. > > R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer > Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) > Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) > E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > -- John L. Utz III john@utzweb.net Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 16 15:23:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAC2437B40A for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:23:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f8GMNiR15628; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:23:44 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200109162223.f8GMNiR15628@ptavv.es.net> To: John Utz Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: is cardbus supported in 4.4-RCX In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:24:25 CDT." Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:23:44 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org John, Yes, 16-bit PCMCIA cards are supported, but I'm confused by your reply. I don't see how any BIOS change can make a 32-bit card work. It's still a 32-bit interface using the CardBus interface which is not yet supported. Or am I totally misunderstanding? R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 16 15:33:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from jupiter.linuxengine.net (jupiter.linuxengine.net [209.61.188.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F73F37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 15:33:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jupiterweb.commercevault.com (jupiterweb.commercevault.com [209.61.179.16] (may be forged)) by jupiter.linuxengine.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f8GMh7P30688; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:43:07 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:43:07 -0500 (CDT) From: John Utz X-X-Sender: To: Kevin Oberman Cc: Subject: Re: is cardbus supported in 4.4-RCX In-Reply-To: <200109162223.f8GMNiR15628@ptavv.es.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Kevin Oberman wrote: > John, > > Yes, 16-bit PCMCIA cards are supported, but I'm confused by your > reply. I don't see how any BIOS change can make a 32-bit card > work. It's still a 32-bit interface using the CardBus interface which > is not yet supported. Or am I totally misunderstanding? i can understand why you are confused! the card is carbus, the interface chip is cardbus, but the bios on my hp800ct has a 'PCIC compatible' mode setting in the bios. however, this is going *quite* poorly in that i am getting a kernel panic upon boot when i select this mode. dang. i'll keep fiddling for a bit. maybe this is a time to start running current. been running freebsd since pre 1.0 days and have never run current.... > R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer > Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) > Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) > E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 > -- John L. Utz III john@utzweb.net Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 16 16:21:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9996E37B410 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:21:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8GNSXT01903; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:28:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200109162328.f8GNSXT01903@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: John Utz Cc: Kevin Oberman , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: is cardbus supported in 4.4-RCX In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:24:25 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:28:33 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > John, > > > > I think the message is quite clear. > > hmm, then is 16 bit supported? - i jut reconf'd the bios and i am trying > that now. that would be fine at this point...... I think you are confused. CardBus is *not* supported in 4.4. At all. CardBus bridges are supported in PCCARD mode only. This 16 bit vs. 32 bit stuff is a red herring. "16 bit" means PCCARD. "32 bit" means CardBus. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 16 16:34:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from jupiter.linuxengine.net (jupiter.linuxengine.net [209.61.188.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61DDD37B406; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 16:34:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jupiterweb.commercevault.com (jupiterweb.commercevault.com [209.61.179.16] (may be forged)) by jupiter.linuxengine.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f8GNiIP01984; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:44:18 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:44:18 -0500 (CDT) From: John Utz X-X-Sender: To: Mike Smith Cc: Kevin Oberman , Subject: Re: is cardbus supported in 4.4-RCX In-Reply-To: <200109162328.f8GNSXT01903@mass.dis.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hmm. ok, i now know enuf to get a glimmering of how confused i am. On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Mike Smith wrote: > > On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Kevin Oberman wrote: > > > > > John, > > > > > > I think the message is quite clear. > > > > hmm, then is 16 bit supported? - i jut reconf'd the bios and i am trying > > that now. that would be fine at this point...... > > I think you are confused. > > CardBus is *not* supported in 4.4. At all. > > CardBus bridges are supported in PCCARD mode only. > > This 16 bit vs. 32 bit stuff is a red herring. "16 bit" means PCCARD. > "32 bit" means CardBus. so. when i configure the bios to PCIC mode, then i am reincarnating the interface ( and thus, the card ) to appear to be a PCCARD, yes? if this *is* true, then the 4.4-RC5 install should not have paniced when it probed the chip, correct? if, it is not true, then could anybody offer up what it is that i am telling the bios to do when i set the PCIC compatible mode in the bios? sorry for the high density of my skull in this matter :-) -- John L. Utz III john@utzweb.net Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 16 17:33:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE42937B401 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:33:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8H0XCn04949; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:33:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f8H0XCW24899; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:33:12 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200109170033.f8H0XCW24899@harmony.village.org> To: John Utz Subject: Re: is cardbus supported in 4.4-RCX Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:09:36 CDT." References: Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:33:12 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message John Utz writes: : pcic0: Card type 32-bit cardbus is unsupported Nothing futher needs to be said... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 16 17:34:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 386EC37B40A for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:34:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8H0YFn04957; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:34:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f8H0YFW24918; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:34:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200109170034.f8H0YFW24918@harmony.village.org> To: John Utz Subject: Re: is cardbus supported in 4.4-RCX Cc: Kevin Oberman , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Sep 2001 17:43:07 CDT." References: Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:34:15 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message John Utz writes: : however, this is going *quite* poorly in that i am getting a kernel panic : upon boot when i select this mode. Hmmmm, I'd be interested in that panic, I think. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 16 18:43: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from jupiter.linuxengine.net (jupiter.linuxengine.net [209.61.188.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A4237B405 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:43:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jupiterweb.commercevault.com (jupiterweb.commercevault.com [209.61.179.16] (may be forged)) by jupiter.linuxengine.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f8H1qmP09937; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:52:48 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:52:48 -0500 (CDT) From: John Utz X-X-Sender: To: Warner Losh Cc: Kevin Oberman , Subject: Re: is cardbus supported in 4.4-RCX In-Reply-To: <200109170034.f8H0YFW24918@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ok, so with freebsd 4.3 it doesnt panic, but it also doesnt seem to work even tho it acts in a hopeful manner :-) i've been off housecleaning for the last few hours and it had become clear in my mind that this was a bug, so i'd just popped back over to check the mail and see if anybody else thought so. so here's what i am thinking about how to track this down: assuming that the pccard stuff is an LKM ...hmm, i just looked in the 4.3 modules dir and it wasnt in there, it's not an LKM is it? if it was then i'd install 4.4 over my laplink cable and then printf the heck out of the lkm and then run it. but that doesnt seem to be the case here. so i'll just pop the disks in and copy all the messages into mail by hand in a while unless somebody has a better suggestion. On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Warner Losh wrote: > In message John Utz writes: > : however, this is going *quite* poorly in that i am getting a kernel panic > : upon boot when i select this mode. > > Hmmmm, I'd be interested in that panic, I think. > > Warner > -- John L. Utz III john@utzweb.net Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 16 19:40:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from jupiter.linuxengine.net (jupiter.linuxengine.net [209.61.188.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35FD537B40A for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 19:40:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jupiterweb.commercevault.com (jupiterweb.commercevault.com [209.61.179.16] (may be forged)) by jupiter.linuxengine.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f8H2oWP13964; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:50:32 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:50:32 -0500 (CDT) From: John Utz X-X-Sender: To: Warner Losh Cc: Subject: Re: is cardbus supported in 4.4-RCX In-Reply-To: <200109170034.f8H0YFW24918@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org here's the panic. nore that the controller is the TI PCI-1131 PCI-Cardbus Bridge at device 4.0 on pci0 when i boot this box to 4.3-RELEASE note that the svga controller is what's probed prior to the crash. note that this is an HP 800CT - the mouse on a stick computer. pci0: at 3.0 pci_cfgintr_virgin: using routable interrupt 3 Fatal Trap 12: page fault whit in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0xef73a fault code = supervisor read, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc00ef4c0 stack pointer = 0x10: 0xc06b8dfa frame pointer = 0x10: 0xc06b8dfc code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = 0 (swapper) interrupt mask = net tty bio cam trap number = 12 panic: page fault Uptime: 0s On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Warner Losh wrote: > In message John Utz writes: > : however, this is going *quite* poorly in that i am getting a kernel panic > : upon boot when i select this mode. > > Hmmmm, I'd be interested in that panic, I think. > > Warner > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > -- John L. Utz III john@utzweb.net Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 16 20:43: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from po3.wam.umd.edu (po3.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.165]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96C1D37B406 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 20:42:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rac4.wam.umd.edu (IDENT:root@rac4.wam.umd.edu [128.8.10.144]) by po3.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA25505; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 23:42:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from rac4.wam.umd.edu (IDENT:sendmail@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rac4.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id XAA16965; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 23:42:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (culverk@localhost) by rac4.wam.umd.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA16961; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 23:42:54 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: rac4.wam.umd.edu: culverk owned process doing -bs Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 23:42:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Kenneth Wayne Culver To: John Utz Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: is cardbus supported in 4.4-RCX In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Cardbus is not supported in 4.x, but I have the feeling that now that FreeBSD 5.x won't be released for another year, 4.x will eventually get support. Ken On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, John Utz wrote: > hi; > > i may have gotten ahead of myself here :-( > > i just went out and bought an SMC 8035TX cardbus NIC under the impression > that it was supported in 4.4 but the install cant find the network > interface. > > furthermore, popping and reinserting the card gets: > > pcic0:BAD Vcc Request > pcic0: Card type 32-bit cardbus is unsupported > > whoops. > > tnx for any facts that you can provide. > -- > > John L. Utz III > john@utzweb.net > > Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 16 21: 2:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D18AC37B405; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:02:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8H4ACT04453; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:10:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200109170410.f8H4ACT04453@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: John Utz Cc: Mike Smith , Kevin Oberman , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: is cardbus supported in 4.4-RCX In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Sep 2001 18:44:18 CDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:10:12 -0700 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > This 16 bit vs. 32 bit stuff is a red herring. "16 bit" means PCCARD. > > "32 bit" means CardBus. > > so. when i configure the bios to PCIC mode, then i am reincarnating the > interface ( and thus, the card ) to appear to be a PCCARD, yes? No, it's a CardBus card. CardBus. CardBus. Got it yet? > if, it is not true, then could anybody offer up what it is that i am > telling the bios to do when i set the PCIC compatible mode in the bios? It just tweaks the chip so that it looks more like a PCCARD controller (PCIC). It won't help. Forget it. You absolutely cannot use the card you have. Ok? -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 16 21:24:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from jupiter.linuxengine.net (jupiter.linuxengine.net [209.61.188.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E879A37B403; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:24:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jupiterweb.commercevault.com (jupiterweb.commercevault.com [209.61.179.16] (may be forged)) by jupiter.linuxengine.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f8H4YjP22356; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 23:34:45 -0500 Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 23:34:45 -0500 (CDT) From: John Utz X-X-Sender: To: Mike Smith Cc: Kevin Oberman , Subject: Re: is cardbus supported in 4.4-RCX In-Reply-To: <200109170410.f8H4ACT04453@mass.dis.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org thankyou michael! i appreciate the feedback. i have been enlightened. :-) On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Mike Smith wrote: > > > This 16 bit vs. 32 bit stuff is a red herring. "16 bit" means PCCARD. > > > "32 bit" means CardBus. > > > > so. when i configure the bios to PCIC mode, then i am reincarnating the > > interface ( and thus, the card ) to appear to be a PCCARD, yes? > > No, it's a CardBus card. CardBus. CardBus. Got it yet? > > > if, it is not true, then could anybody offer up what it is that i am > > telling the bios to do when i set the PCIC compatible mode in the bios? > > It just tweaks the chip so that it looks more like a PCCARD controller > (PCIC). It won't help. Forget it. You absolutely cannot use the card > you have. Ok? > > -- John L. Utz III john@utzweb.net Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 16 22: 8:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C57E37B40B for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 22:08:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8H58Ku05551; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 23:08:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f8H58KW26375; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 23:08:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200109170508.f8H58KW26375@harmony.village.org> To: John Utz Subject: Re: is cardbus supported in 4.4-RCX Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 16 Sep 2001 21:50:32 CDT." References: Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 23:08:20 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message John Utz writes: : nore that the controller is the TI PCI-1131 PCI-Cardbus Bridge at device : 4.0 on pci0 when i boot this box to 4.3-RELEASE This smells like a PCI BIOS bug in your BIOS :-( We'll need to find and kill that bug in the fullness of time, but not for 4.4-RELEASE. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 16 23: 5:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from jupiter.linuxengine.net (jupiter.linuxengine.net [209.61.188.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFF5C37B407 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 23:05:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jupiterweb.commercevault.com (jupiterweb.commercevault.com [209.61.179.16] (may be forged)) by jupiter.linuxengine.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f8H6FMP32541; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 01:15:22 -0500 Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 01:15:21 -0500 (CDT) From: John Utz X-X-Sender: To: Warner Losh Cc: Subject: Re: is cardbus supported in 4.4-RCX In-Reply-To: <200109170508.f8H58KW26375@harmony.village.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org interesting. there is a bios upgrade at hp's site, but they are vague as to why it's important. given that it's a one way process, i was sorta resistant given that the box seemed to work ok. some linux sites suggest doing it too. i'll upgrade it some time soon and get back to you.... On Sun, 16 Sep 2001, Warner Losh wrote: > In message John Utz writes: > : nore that the controller is the TI PCI-1131 PCI-Cardbus Bridge at device > : 4.0 on pci0 when i boot this box to 4.3-RELEASE > > This smells like a PCI BIOS bug in your BIOS :-( We'll need to find > and kill that bug in the fullness of time, but not for 4.4-RELEASE. > > Warner > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > -- John L. Utz III john@utzweb.net Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Sun Sep 16 23:11:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from CRWdog.demon.co.uk (cs6669226-57.austin.rr.com [66.69.226.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84F9B37B401 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2001 23:11:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by CRWdog.demon.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E1A3E2A for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 01:11:18 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Omnibook 6000 sound in 4.4-RC Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1164213666P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 01:11:18 -0500 From: Andy Sparrow Message-Id: <20010917061118.53E1A3E2A@CRWdog.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_1164213666P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, I've been using an HP Omnibook 6000 with the Maestro3 sound driver since the Maestro driver was a beta thingy, prolly about Nov/Dec 2000. Sound itself works great, although it has never survived a suspend-to-ram for me. It used to (haven't tried for a while) survive a 'standby' (albeit with a horrible screeching until it went into power-save). In order to get the sound working again post-resume, I had to kldunload and then re-kldload the snd_maestro3 module, and this worked fine. I used to do this in rc.suspend/rc.resume with some success. In order for this to work, I had to actually stop (rather than 'pause') 'xmms' from playing, presumably so that the device(s) weren't actually being help open, preventing the sound device from being unloaded. No biggie. However, then I fell in love with the dockable mixer with the OSD, 'wmixer' - and discovered that I had to kill the mixer, too (presumably because it held the mixer open). Not a show-stopper, but not ideal. Since upgrading to 4.4-RC recently, I've discovered that having opened any mixer application (certainly gmix, wmixer, aumix) seems to cause the message 'kldunload: can't unload file: Device busy' if you subsequently try to unload the Maestro driver. This is /after/ closing everything that might hold the audio device open, and 'lsof' doesn't show anything audio-related as being held open by any process. So now I can't re-set the audio device at all without a reboot. This is really hurting my uptimes, which are now looking more like a Win95 machine than a FreeBSD box ;-) To add insult to injury, since upgrading to 4.4-RC, I've noticed that the Omnibook will no longer reboot - it hangs just before you'd expect it to reset and display the BIOS messages, and dims the screen very, very dark, just like it does if you suspend it in X without switching to a text console first (or hacking 'apm' to do that for you). In order to get around this, you either have to halt it and power-cycle it instead of rebooting, or give it a prod in the reset when it wedges. Does anyone have any suggestions for the audio problem? I saw a note that re-setting the mixer values might help, but to what, exactly? Cheers, AS --==_Exmh_1164213666P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iD8DBQE7pZQGPHh895bDXeQRAhXgAJ9sNHb+0TrfCsmda5E8zQQAe8GitgCfWCMk 9Dngrdh6M85vK0InWKsfyNs= =36W6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1164213666P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 17 0:46:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9F237B447 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 00:46:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (root@spare0.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.114]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id RAA24159; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:16:02 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010917173547.B28519@clearcom.com.au> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:16:01 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: David Billett Subject: Re: WinModem support? Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 17-Sep-2001 David Billett wrote: > > I have it running in 4.4-RC :) > I assume you have the Lucent and not the 3Com? I have this device -> ltmdm0@pci8:8:0: class=0x078000 card=0x24001668 chip=0x044811c1 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 It is an ActionTec device but, basically it's a rebadged LT modem. (Same with the ethernet, it is an fxp, but rebadged as ActionTec) It and the fxp are part of the same miniPCI device. --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 17 1:31:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8653737B40A for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 01:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (root@spare0.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.114]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA24576; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:01:12 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010917182631.C28519@clearcom.com.au> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:01:12 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: David Billett Subject: Re: WinModem support? Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 17-Sep-2001 David Billett wrote: > I have the 3Com card and get nothing when loading the module, so I > guess the 3Com is not a LT modem. I though this might have saved me > purchasing a PCMCIA modem, it's getting hard to find a real modem these > days. Damn :( I don't have any info about the 3com device. I found it hard to get a real modem, in fact last time I bought a PCMCIA one I ended up with a LT modem :) I have managed to find a USB modem that works with freebsd, but the support is still a bit bugger (I obtained a NetComm Roadster II). --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 17 8:33:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from web12403.mail.yahoo.com (web12403.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.173.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 38A9037B408 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 08:33:28 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20010917153328.24951.qmail@web12403.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [198.22.121.120] by web12403.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 08:33:28 PDT Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 08:33:28 -0700 (PDT) From: bob bobing Subject: winmodem + vmware + w2k To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anyone know off the top of there head how to setup access to a winmodem from w2k under vmware (fbsd is primary os) i can get DT from /dev/cual0 (in fbsd), but i'm not sure how to tell windows how to access the modem. I currently have serial 0 mapped to /dev/cual0, then tried to attach a modem to com3 (the only com without resource conflicts). __________________________________________________ Terrorist Attacks on U.S. - How can you help? Donate cash, emergency relief information http://dailynews.yahoo.com/fc/US/Emergency_Information/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 17 10: 7:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB65937B414 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 10:07:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA13466; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:07:34 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id LAA17379; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:07:33 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15270.11733.309708.185928@nomad.yogotech.com> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 11:07:33 -0600 To: Toshihiko ARAI Cc: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams), freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [PATCH] pccard_ether and removable_* variables In-Reply-To: <200109160641.f8G6fxf55588.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> References: <15245.13394.275183.61715@nomad.yogotech.com> <200109011153.f81BrZL93078.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> <15253.10889.977127.513674@nomad.yogotech.com> <200109051230.f85CUGQ39840.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> <15254.22900.863293.94059@nomad.yogotech.com> <200109071244.f87Cib011728.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> <15256.60442.758729.299336@nomad.yogotech.com> <200109141452.f8EEqJF33125.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> <15266.6852.389169.298534@nomad.yogotech.com> <200109160641.f8G6fxf55588.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.95 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Can you re-send the diff to me in private email, and I'll try and get it > > into the tree? (Unfortunately, it's too late for the patches to > > sysinstall for FreeBSD 4.4-RELEASE, but it should be in for later > > releases.) > > It was surely too late. > > The following is each a patch for -current and -stable. > Would you do commit of these patches? > > http://home.jp.FreeBSD.org/~toshi/pccard-current-20010916.diff > http://home.jp.FreeBSD.org/~toshi/pccard-stable-20010916.diff The only difference I might make it to have the static_routes_{if} defined in the pccard section, since otherwise it might make things confusing for non-removalbe users. #static_routes_ed0="net1" # Set to static route list for ed0 by # removable network interface. Would it be possible/advisable to rename this variable to something like 'removable_route_{if}' instead? That way it wouldn't be confused with entries used for non-removable interfaces? Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 17 15: 6:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wrs.com (unknown-1-11.windriver.com [147.11.1.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8AF37B40B; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:06:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from neville-neil.com (gnn-home-pc [147.11.35.202]) by mail.wrs.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA00781; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:06:12 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200109172206.PAA00781@mail.wrs.com> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Problems getting STABLE running on a VAIO 505TL Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:06:11 -0700 From: "George V. Neville-Neil" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Folks, I have a VAIO 505TL that I'm trying to get STABLE onto. What I do is install from 4.3 CDROM which goes quite well, the PCMCIA card for the CDROM is recognized and used and things work OK. I then do cvsup make buildworld make buildkernel make installkernel make installworld mergemaster reboot I can then not boot because the kernel hangs after the line about ad0: (the disk). I suspect this of being a kernel configuration problem. What I need to know is: 1) How can I find out what the kernel that got installed by 4.3 looked like. I figure it's the fact that I'm using GENERIC that's causing the issue but without a way to find out the kernel config I'm going to always have this problem and I don't want to do this over and over and over again. 2) If anyone has gotten this done on this or a similar (recent) Sony laptop. Thanks, George To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 17 15:11:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from tarakan-network.com (chojin.adsl.nerim.net [62.4.22.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED5D437B403; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:11:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chojin (chojin.lan.tarakan-network.com [192.168.69.2] (may be forged)) by tarakan-network.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with SMTP id f8HMBYt79793; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 00:11:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@tarakan-network.com) Message-ID: <014c01c13fc5$b8c65f40$0245a8c0@chojin> From: "Chojin" To: , , "George V. Neville-Neil" References: <200109172206.PAA00781@mail.wrs.com> Subject: Re: Problems getting STABLE running on a VAIO 505TL Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 00:11:32 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2526.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2526.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, It's normally cvsup make buildworld make installworld mergemaster and after only, make buildkernel make installkernel ----- Original Message ----- From: "George V. Neville-Neil" To: ; Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 12:06 AM Subject: Problems getting STABLE running on a VAIO 505TL > Hi Folks, > > I have a VAIO 505TL that I'm trying to get STABLE onto. What I do > is install from 4.3 CDROM which goes quite well, the PCMCIA card for > the CDROM is recognized and used and things work OK. I then do > > cvsup > make buildworld > make buildkernel > make installkernel > make installworld > mergemaster > reboot > > I can then not boot because the kernel hangs after the line > about ad0: (the disk). I suspect this of being a kernel configuration > problem. What I need to know is: > > 1) How can I find out what the kernel that got installed by 4.3 looked > like. I figure it's the fact that I'm using GENERIC that's causing > the issue but without a way to find out the kernel config I'm going to > always have this problem and I don't want to do this over and over and > over again. > > 2) If anyone has gotten this done on this or a similar (recent) Sony > laptop. > > Thanks, > George > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 17 15:15: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from bunrab.catwhisker.org (adsl-63-193-123-122.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.123.122]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB6E37B409; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:14:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from david@localhost) by bunrab.catwhisker.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id f8HMEwa78224; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:14:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from david) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:14:58 -0700 (PDT) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200109172214.f8HMEwa78224@bunrab.catwhisker.org> To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd@tarakan-network.com, gnn@neville-neil.com Subject: Re: Problems getting STABLE running on a VAIO 505TL In-Reply-To: <014c01c13fc5$b8c65f40$0245a8c0@chojin> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >From: "Chojin" >Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 00:11:32 +0200 >It's normally >cvsup >make buildworld >make installworld >mergemaster >and after only, >make buildkernel >make installkernel Is there some particular reason you are trying to suggest a different order of operations than that specified in /usr/src/UPDATING? Quoting: To update from 4.0-RELEASE or later to the most current 4.x-STABLE ---------- make buildworld make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE reboot (in single user) [1] make installworld mergemaster [2] reboot (See the file itself for the footnotes.) Cheers, david -- David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me to advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 17 15:19:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from tarakan-network.com (chojin.adsl.nerim.net [62.4.22.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC1337B410; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:19:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chojin (chojin.lan.tarakan-network.com [192.168.69.2] (may be forged)) by tarakan-network.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with SMTP id f8HMJ5t80673; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 00:19:11 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@tarakan-network.com) Message-ID: <015c01c13fc6$c8f37f00$0245a8c0@chojin> From: "Chojin" To: "David Wolfskill" , , , References: <200109172214.f8HMEwa78224@bunrab.catwhisker.org> Subject: Re: Problems getting STABLE running on a VAIO 505TL Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 00:19:04 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2526.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2526.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Because I always follow instructions from handbook: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/makeworld.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Wolfskill" To: ; ; ; Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 12:14 AM Subject: Re: Problems getting STABLE running on a VAIO 505TL > >From: "Chojin" > >Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 00:11:32 +0200 > > >It's normally > >cvsup > >make buildworld > >make installworld > >mergemaster > > >and after only, > > >make buildkernel > >make installkernel > > Is there some particular reason you are trying to suggest a different > order of operations than that specified in /usr/src/UPDATING? Quoting: > > To update from 4.0-RELEASE or later to the most current > 4.x-STABLE > ---------- > make buildworld > make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > reboot (in single user) [1] > make installworld > mergemaster [2] > reboot > > (See the file itself for the footnotes.) > > Cheers, > david > -- > David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org > As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me to > advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal > amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 17 15:20:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from tarakan-network.com (chojin.adsl.nerim.net [62.4.22.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 770D937B409; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:20:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from chojin (chojin.lan.tarakan-network.com [192.168.69.2] (may be forged)) by tarakan-network.com (8.11.6/8.11.3) with SMTP id f8HMKDt80811; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 00:20:13 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from freebsd@tarakan-network.com) Message-ID: <016401c13fc6$edf3fff0$0245a8c0@chojin> From: "Chojin" To: "David Wolfskill" , , , References: <200109172214.f8HMEwa78224@bunrab.catwhisker.org> Subject: Re: Problems getting STABLE running on a VAIO 505TL Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 00:20:11 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2526.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2526.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Oh sorry, I didn't read correctly lol! You have entirely right :-p ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Wolfskill" To: ; ; ; Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2001 12:14 AM Subject: Re: Problems getting STABLE running on a VAIO 505TL > >From: "Chojin" > >Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 00:11:32 +0200 > > >It's normally > >cvsup > >make buildworld > >make installworld > >mergemaster > > >and after only, > > >make buildkernel > >make installkernel > > Is there some particular reason you are trying to suggest a different > order of operations than that specified in /usr/src/UPDATING? Quoting: > > To update from 4.0-RELEASE or later to the most current > 4.x-STABLE > ---------- > make buildworld > make buildkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > make installkernel KERNCONF=YOUR_KERNEL_HERE > reboot (in single user) [1] > make installworld > mergemaster [2] > reboot > > (See the file itself for the footnotes.) > > Cheers, > david > -- > David H. Wolfskill david@catwhisker.org > As a computing professional, I believe it would be unethical for me to > advise, recommend, or support the use (save possibly for personal > amusement) of any product that is or depends on any Microsoft product. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 17 15:40:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C4AA137B40B; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:40:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f8HMe0R31074; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:40:00 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200109172240.f8HMe0R31074@ptavv.es.net> To: "Chojin" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, "George V. Neville-Neil" Subject: Re: Problems getting STABLE running on a VAIO 505TL In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Sep 2001 00:11:32 +0200." <014c01c13fc5$b8c65f40$0245a8c0@chojin> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:40:00 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > From: "Chojin" > Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 00:11:32 +0200 > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG > > Hi, > > It's normally > cvsup > make buildworld > make installworld > mergemaster > > and after only, > > make buildkernel > make installkernel I am baffled why people continue to suggest that the proper sequence for system rebuilds is wrong. And often in ways that could result in truly catastrophic failures. To explain why /usr/src/UPDATING has the order it does: cvsup (well, that has to be first since you can't build from updated sources without the updated sources.) make buildworld (This is the single most complex step in the rebuild. And, it has NO impact on the running system. It must precede either a buildkernel or installworld.) make kernel (This simply is a short way of entering "make buildkernel && make installkernel". You do this so you can make sure that you have a bootable kernel built on the new system sources and objects. But the new executables are not yet installed, making it easy to fall back to the old system should the new kernel fail to boot.) Reboot to single-user mode (This is a safety think. Installing new system over the existing one usually works, but it's far from safe!) make installworld (You KNOW that the new kernel works and that all of the new binaries built, so it's time to take the first step that is really hard to back out of if there are problems.) mergemaster (This is really a "cleanup" item, although it is a very important one.) Reboot to normal (You're done!) Building and installing the kernel after installing world is risky, especially if changes in userland cause the old kernel to not work well with it. It gets especially ugly if building the kernel should fail! R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 17 15:45:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE6BB37B40A; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:45:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] helo=dogma) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #7) id 15j78k-0000Do-00; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 23:45:22 +0100 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f8HMjLu41638; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 23:45:21 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from jcm) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 23:45:21 +0100 From: j mckitrick To: Kevin Oberman Cc: Chojin , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org, "George V. Neville-Neil" Subject: Re: Problems getting STABLE running on a VAIO 505TL Message-ID: <20010917234521.A41559@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <014c01c13fc5$b8c65f40$0245a8c0@chojin> <200109172240.f8HMe0R31074@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200109172240.f8HMe0R31074@ptavv.es.net>; from oberman@es.net on Mon, Sep 17, 2001 at 03:40:00PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org | To explain why /usr/src/UPDATING has the order it does: Thanks! No one has every actually explained the obvious. Once you see it, it makes a lot of sense, and makes it easier to remember. jm -- My other computer is your windows box. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 17 16: 6:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B5737B40B; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:06:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f8HN5RR21625; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:05:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200109172305.f8HN5RR21625@ptavv.es.net> To: j mckitrick Cc: Chojin , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, "George V. Neville-Neil" Subject: Re: Problems getting STABLE running on a VAIO 505TL In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Sep 2001 23:45:21 BST." <20010917234521.A41559@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:05:27 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 23:45:21 +0100 > From: j mckitrick > Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG > > | To explain why /usr/src/UPDATING has the order it does: > > Thanks! No one has every actually explained the obvious. > Once you see it, it makes a lot of sense, and makes it easier to remember. > > > jm > -- > My other computer is your windows box. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message > Thanks. I learned a long time ago that learning by rote is not very effective. If I understand the reasoning and concepts behind a set of instructions, I am much more likely to do it right. I've also learned that I am fairly good at writing tutorials and, like you, I don't every remember seeing the whole thing annotated, although I'm sure that everything I mentioned has been posted at one time or another by Werner Losh, Mike Smith, and others back in the early 4.0 days when the new build procedure was established and details of the /usr/src/UPDATING file changed on an almost daily basis. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 17 16:24:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ABFC337B40C; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:24:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8HNOau08520; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:24:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f8HNOaW60005; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:24:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200109172324.f8HNOaW60005@harmony.village.org> To: "Kevin Oberman" Subject: Re: Problems getting STABLE running on a VAIO 505TL Cc: "Chojin" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, "George V. Neville-Neil" In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Sep 2001 15:40:00 PDT." <200109172240.f8HMe0R31074@ptavv.es.net> References: <200109172240.f8HMe0R31074@ptavv.es.net> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:24:36 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <200109172240.f8HMe0R31074@ptavv.es.net> "Kevin Oberman" writes: : I am baffled why people continue to suggest that the proper sequence : for system rebuilds is wrong. And often in ways that could result in : truly catastrophic failures. Likely because they can get away with it most of the time. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 17 16:57:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D25637B406; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:57:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f8HNv7R28915; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:57:07 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200109172357.f8HNv7R28915@ptavv.es.net> To: Warner Losh Cc: "Chojin" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, "George V. Neville-Neil" Subject: Re: Problems getting STABLE running on a VAIO 505TL In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:24:36 MDT." <200109172324.f8HNOaW60005@harmony.village.org> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:57:07 -0700 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:24:36 -0600 > From: Warner Losh > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > In message <200109172240.f8HMe0R31074@ptavv.es.net> "Kevin Oberman" writes: > : I am baffled why people continue to suggest that the proper sequence > : for system rebuilds is wrong. And often in ways that could result in > : truly catastrophic failures. > > Likely because they can get away with it most of the time. But they will yell loudly if it does blow up on them. And, odds are, that it will eventually go BOOM. (I do customer support for ESnet about one out of six weeks.) R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 17 17:18:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from boreas.isi.edu (boreas.isi.edu [128.9.160.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A3237B406 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:18:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ted.isi.edu (ted.isi.edu [128.9.160.104]) by boreas.isi.edu (8.11.6/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f8I0IKQ03648; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:18:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from faber@localhost) by ted.isi.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f8I0IK287580; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:18:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from faber) Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:18:20 -0700 From: Ted Faber To: Warner Losh Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: [faber@ISI.EDU: Re: Card eject patch] Message-ID: <20010917171819.I83955@ted.isi.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=php-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PMULwz+zIGJzpDN9" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-url: http://www.isi.edu/~faber Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --PMULwz+zIGJzpDN9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Warner, have you had a chance to look into this? (I realize that with the level of chaos in the world, the answer may be no...) ----- Forwarded message from Ted Faber ----- From: Ted Faber Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2001 10:12:38 -0700 To: Warner Losh Cc: mobile@freebsd.org, Ian Dowse Subject: Re: Card eject patch X-url: http://www.isi.edu/~faber On Thu, Sep 13, 2001 at 10:54:28AM -0600, Warner Losh wrote: > In message <20010913092411.D42961@ted.isi.edu> Ted Faber writes: > : Even with this patch and a -stable from yesterday, things lock hard on > : card insert or removal on my Fujitsu C-5130 if either the sound driver > : (snd_ds1) or the usb driver (usb) is loaded. They share irq 9 with > : the pcic. I've mentioned the problem before with a bunch of debug > : output, which I'll cheerfully regather if you need it. (I'm the > : fellow who lost his power supply for a week while on travel). > :=20 > : Let me know if I can help. >=20 > OK. I've known about your problems. I asked a little while ago if > you'd tried ISA interrupts, but hadn't heard back an answer. I realize you're juggling a bunch, and as I said, I disappeared for a while, sorry. I thought I responded, but I may have done so from my home address which failed to correlate. In any case: > hw.pcic.intr_path=3D1 > hw.pcic.irq=3D0 That's the current configuration I'm using. $ sysctl -a | grep pcic hw.pcic.irq: 0 hw.pcic.ignore_function_1: 0 hw.pcic.intr_path: 1 hw.pcic.init_routing: 1 machdep.pccard.pcic_resume_reset: 1 Toggling hw.pcic.init_routing has no effect - cards work until usb or snd_ds1 is loaded, then the next insert/remove locks the machine tight. ----- End forwarded message ----- --PMULwz+zIGJzpDN9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7ppLLaUz3f+Zf+XsRArNqAKDYCmCLSh/Lvp0sxEyWPocrudwWrgCgmQG3 bUoOJzR8WU2EAHxr4SWBxwk= =mzCd -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PMULwz+zIGJzpDN9-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 17 17:22: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA6CE37B405; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:22:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8I0M0u08663; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:22:01 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f8I0M0W60384; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:22:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200109180022.f8I0M0W60384@harmony.village.org> To: "Kevin Oberman" Subject: Re: Problems getting STABLE running on a VAIO 505TL Cc: "Chojin" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG, "George V. Neville-Neil" In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Sep 2001 16:57:07 PDT." <200109172357.f8HNv7R28915@ptavv.es.net> References: <200109172357.f8HNv7R28915@ptavv.es.net> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:22:00 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <200109172357.f8HNv7R28915@ptavv.es.net> "Kevin Oberman" writes: : But they will yell loudly if it does blow up on them. And, odds are, : that it will eventually go BOOM. (I do customer support for ESnet : about one out of six weeks.) Yes. I usually know when I can get away with it. I do things I'd never think to put in UPDATING on a regular basis. However, when they fail, I don't tell anybody about them... Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 17 17:22:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF7C237B40D for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:22:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8I0Miu08674; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:22:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f8I0MiW60414; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:22:44 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200109180022.f8I0MiW60414@harmony.village.org> To: Ted Faber Subject: Re: [faber@ISI.EDU: Re: Card eject patch] Cc: mobile@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 17 Sep 2001 17:18:20 PDT." <20010917171819.I83955@ted.isi.edu> References: <20010917171819.I83955@ted.isi.edu> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:22:44 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <20010917171819.I83955@ted.isi.edu> Ted Faber writes: : Warner, have you had a chance to look into this? (I realize that with : the level of chaos in the world, the answer may be no...) No, I haven't. I'm decompressing. And I'd likely need access to one of these machines to fix it. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Mon Sep 17 18:15: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A190F37B406 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2001 18:14:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (root@spare0.gsoft.com.au [203.38.152.114]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id KAA04488; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:44:15 +0930 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <1075.216.230.144.194.1000749348.squirrel@moe.datascan-site.com> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 10:44:16 +0930 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: "J. Rodrigo Fernandez M." Subject: Re: WinModem support? Cc: mobile@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 17-Sep-2001 J. Rodrigo Fernandez M. wrote: > I have the same actiontec modem, but I had to edit manually the ltmdmsio.c > to add my modem, but I don't know how to get the right parameters. I used > scanpci and got the vendor id and the device_bgn but I don't know how to get > the device_end. device_bgn and device_end describe a range of device ID's. So my modem -> ltmdm0@pci8:8:0: class=0x078000 card=0x24001668 chip=0x044811c1 rev=0x01 hdr=0x00 chip=0x044811c1 Which matches -> { 0x11c1, 0x0440, 0x045c, 0x00, "Lucent Win Modem" }, ie the vendor ID is the last 2 bytes (0x11c1), the first 2 are the device ID (0x4481) which is between 0x0440 and 0x45c. I guess for now just make device_bgn = device_end.. --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Sep 18 5:25:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from uu-t1-6.visgen.com (uu-t1-6.visgen.com [216.94.71.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 520E337B406 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 05:25:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010918082359.00b92970@pophost> X-Sender: scott@pophost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 08:28:53 -0400 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org From: Scott Augustus Subject: currently available notebook solution? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed X-Virus-Scanned: by VGI Postfix Mcafee VirusScan 4.x Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Greetings all, Just wondering if anyone can recommend a laptop that is currently available on the market that will be nicely compatible with FreeBSD? I currently have a Satellite Pro 4300 which works *wonderfully* with fbsd, right down to the winmodem... but alas.... I must give it up :-( I had fiddled recently with the 4600 but it was cranky, particularly with X. TIA, -- Scott To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Sep 18 6:33:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mail.unixguru.nl (cc49923-a.emmen1.dr.nl.home.com [212.204.178.120]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C344537B406 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 06:33:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.unixguru.nl (mail.unixguru.nl [192.168.10.4]) by mail.unixguru.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 825D43495; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:33:19 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:33:19 +0200 (CEST) From: Richard Arends To: Scott Augustus Cc: Subject: Re: currently available notebook solution? In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010918082359.00b92970@pophost> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Scott Augustus wrote: > I had fiddled recently with the 4600 but it was cranky, particularly > with X. I've got a 4600 and i'm very pleased with it. Okay X cost me some trouble, but i've got that also working.. Greetings, Richard. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Sep 18 6:57:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (gilberto.physik.RWTH-Aachen.DE [137.226.46.168]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47F8037B41F for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 06:57:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from kuku@localhost) by gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de (8.11.1/8.9.3) id f8IDv4n38318; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:57:04 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from kuku) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:57:04 +0200 From: Christoph Kukulies To: Richard Arends Cc: Scott Augustus , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: currently available notebook solution? Message-ID: <20010918155704.A38295@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010918082359.00b92970@pophost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from richard@unixguru.nl on Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 03:33:19PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 03:33:19PM +0200, Richard Arends wrote: > On Tue, 18 Sep 2001, Scott Augustus wrote: > > > I had fiddled recently with the 4600 but it was cranky, particularly > > with X. Although I bought a Dell Inspiron 8000 recently (GeForce2 GO, 1600x1200 Res.) I cannot recommend it for FreeBSD at present unless you hack around to get a VGA resolution working. Getting XFree86-4.x.x (which is a must) working with the Nvidia (Linux only) driver is presently in pre-pre-alpha, that is to say, NOGO. > > I've got a 4600 and i'm very pleased with it. Okay X cost me some trouble, > but i've got that also working.. > > Greetings, > > Richard. > -- Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Sep 18 8:27:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from boreas.isi.edu (boreas.isi.edu [128.9.160.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D30A537B40F for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 08:27:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hbo (hbo.isi.edu [128.9.160.75]) by boreas.isi.edu (8.11.6/8.11.2) with SMTP id f8IFR3Q25467; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 08:27:03 -0700 (PDT) From: "Lars Eggert" To: "Scott Augustus" , Subject: RE: currently available notebook solution? Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 08:27:03 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.7.2.20010918082359.00b92970@pophost> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=SHA1; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0010_01C1401B.B1F08870"; protocol="application/x-pkcs7-signature" Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0010_01C1401B.B1F08870 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I think you need to narrow down your options a bit (size/cost), too many notebooks work fine with FreeBSD. :-) That said, we just bought a few Dell Latitude C600s. They work fine (MiniPCI NIC, X, APM, PC-Card), the only exception being the (optional) Mini-PCI WinModem. But since it has two slots, and a real PC-Card modem is cheap... 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Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Sep 2001 08:28:53 EDT." <4.3.2.7.2.20010918082359.00b92970@pophost> References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010918082359.00b92970@pophost> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:38:27 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <4.3.2.7.2.20010918082359.00b92970@pophost> Scott Augustus writes: : Just wondering if anyone can recommend a laptop that is currently available : on the market that will be nicely compatible with FreeBSD? I currently : have a Satellite Pro 4300 which works *wonderfully* with fbsd, right down : to the winmodem... but alas.... I must give it up :-( I had fiddled : recently with the 4600 but it was cranky, particularly with X. I'm very happy with my Dell ISPIRON 8000, but it does have a win modem that I never use in it. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Sep 18 8:39:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CD2F37B401 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 08:39:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8IFdGu10933; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:39:16 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f8IFdFW64602; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:39:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200109181539.f8IFdFW64602@harmony.village.org> To: Christoph Kukulies Subject: Re: currently available notebook solution? Cc: Richard Arends , Scott Augustus , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:57:04 +0200." <20010918155704.A38295@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> References: <20010918155704.A38295@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> <4.3.2.7.2.20010918082359.00b92970@pophost> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:39:15 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <20010918155704.A38295@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de> Christoph Kukulies writes: : Although I bought a Dell Inspiron 8000 recently (GeForce2 GO, 1600x1200 Res.) : I cannot recommend it for FreeBSD at present unless you hack around to : get a VGA resolution working. Yes, I forgot to mention that I have the ATI card instead of the GeForce card. And that makes X trivial to setup. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Sep 18 14: 8:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from helios.soupnazi.org (helios.soupnazi.org [64.81.252.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E173937B40A; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 14:08:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by helios.soupnazi.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A6BCA3249; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 14:08:11 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 14:08:11 -0700 From: Jim Mock To: "George V. Neville-Neil" Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems getting STABLE running on a VAIO 505TL Message-ID: <20010918140811.A8470@helios.soupnazi.org> Reply-To: mij@soupnazi.org References: <200109172206.PAA00781@mail.wrs.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200109172206.PAA00781@mail.wrs.com> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.22.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 17 Sep 2001 at 15:06:11 -0700, George V. Neville-Neil wrote: > Hi Folks, > > I have a VAIO 505TL that I'm trying to get STABLE onto. What I do > is install from 4.3 CDROM which goes quite well, the PCMCIA card for > the CDROM is recognized and used and things work OK. I then do > > cvsup > make buildworld > make buildkernel > make installkernel > make installworld > mergemaster > reboot > > I can then not boot because the kernel hangs after the line > about ad0: (the disk). I suspect this of being a kernel configuration > problem. What I need to know is: > > 1) How can I find out what the kernel that got installed by 4.3 looked > like. I figure it's the fact that I'm using GENERIC that's causing > the issue but without a way to find out the kernel config I'm going to > always have this problem and I don't want to do this over and over and > over again. > > 2) If anyone has gotten this done on this or a similar (recent) Sony > laptop. You need to add the following to /boot/loader.conf: hw.pcic.intr_path="1" hw.pcic.irq="0" That makes my R505TE bootable :-) - jim -- jim mock tech writer | iXsystems, Inc. http://soupnazi.org/ work: jim@ixsystems.net | jim@FreeBSD.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Sep 18 14:29:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from curl.marine.unc.edu (curl.marine.unc.edu [152.2.92.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2639F37B409 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 14:29:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from tshay@localhost) by curl.marine.unc.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA03930; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:29:40 -0400 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 17:29:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Thomas Shay X-Sender: tshay@curl.marine.unc.edu To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Status of Airport 350 PCMCIA with 4.3-R? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've searched the freebsd-mobile archives, and there are several messages about this, but they don't really form a coherent answer (including broken links to patches, etc.). I thought maybe someone could summarize how to make a Cisco Aironet 350 PCMCIA card work with FreeBSD 4.3-R. I've got the kernel, /etc/pccard.conf, and /etc/rc.conf all configured properly and the card is recognized on insertion. The only apparent problem is (when trying to configure dhcp for this card) the error "record length mismatch -- expected 134, got 136". This seems to be a common problem, and there seem to be several possible solutions partially ouslined in the archives, but it's not clear to me which one is the easiest and most likely to succeed. Can someone give me a concise answer? Thanks, Tom -- Thomas Shay UNC Chapel Hill tom_shay@unc.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Sep 18 14:40:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1141E37B40D for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 14:40:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f8ILebk01087; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 14:40:37 -0700 Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 14:40:37 -0700 From: Brooks Davis To: Thomas Shay Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Status of Airport 350 PCMCIA with 4.3-R? Message-ID: <20010918144037.A31439@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from tshay@email.unc.edu on Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 05:29:40PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Sep 18, 2001 at 05:29:40PM -0400, Thomas Shay wrote: > I've searched the freebsd-mobile archives, and there are several messages > about this, but they don't really form a coherent answer (including broken > links to patches, etc.). I thought maybe someone could summarize how to > make a Cisco Aironet 350 PCMCIA card work with FreeBSD 4.3-R. The most straight forward answer is to upgrade to 4.4-R or 4.4-STABLE. I doubt anyone is supporting the patches for older versions anymore. Just upgrading the driver is going to be difficult because it depends on a number of changes related to adding ifconfig support. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE7p79UXY6L6fI4GtQRAhrIAJ9M71MVTCatESsSgT/yhwKJFmXYmwCePnBW VuMgMWyMvATKdC4zotHA9N8= =pxHf -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ReaqsoxgOBHFXBhH-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Sep 18 15:43:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mail8.mn.rr.com (mkc-162-176.kc.rr.com [24.94.162.176]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 168CC37B405 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from morpheus.mn.rr.com ([65.25.196.137]) by mail8.mn.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.537.53); Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:38:09 -0500 Received: by morpheus.mn.rr.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id DC2623451C; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:34:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:34:48 -0500 From: Damieon Stark To: mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Omnibook 6000 apm Message-ID: <20010918153448.A59861@morpheus.telemere.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="huq684BweRXVnRxX" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Greetings, I am very excited about my new laptop, but have noticed a small issue... ;) On the off chance that someone already figured this one out... ( I hav= e=20 searched the archives for an answer, and though many omnibook issues are discussed, I didn't see this one.... Every time I use the shutdown command (or reboot) the box hangs after synci= ng. It dies in a similar (but much more annyoying *fsck*) way upon suspend. I = am curious if anybody has had success with getting this box to suspend/shutdow= n. If so, please send me configs (kernel/bios) or any tricks which you had to use.... ;) TIA visigoth --=20 Damieon Stark, CCSE Unix/Network Security Engineer ___________________________________________________________________________= ___ Damieon Stark | Microsoft: Where do you want to go today? e: visigoth@securitycentric.com | Linux: Where do you want to go tommorow? p: 612.382.6945 | FreeBSD/Sun: Are you guys coming or what? pgp: 0xBE5D0C57 | http://www.sun.com/solaris - The . in .com pgp.mit.edu | http://www.freebsd.org - The power to serve! ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- I'll see your DMCA and raise you a First Amendment. http://www.anti-dmca.org ---------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- --huq684BweRXVnRxX Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.5.8 iQEVAwUBO6eh1IA1oSe+XQxXAQFW9Qf/cF/4ednCowSKdqy6nYDIKyKIB8xpaGMh yNNE3YR4aJ6ElmI3pas4y1NnxU9blMhagqhzXg+MDHkJZiJvq1HatVC8B3HexnRw S6iynxm1j8wMb4zkGdNYsWjAX7zP+3YtLL7Y7VCiVPsnL3aEblgnsq1GBNChWIUZ CWCxVzL291zKxL/iPMv+zC6+zo/Gse6flS4CkFzjgnpNcRrfVNVq0vRXZIMs8QAd tSBjOqOU38neqaNBUtn9qQsRkDc7eJJDVAQTG/5cPpQOkgqYlhlbmkGlk+1hxnWq 7Kq7I8Ely89JbBckz1yXaAyrqm0gABmwQ1FcXAb0GBdh2VASCGdKtg== =y2hA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --huq684BweRXVnRxX-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Sep 18 16:43:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from CRWdog.demon.co.uk (t1-22.realtime.net [205.238.131.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1837537B406 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 16:43:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by CRWdog.demon.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E0EE3E36; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 18:43:48 -0500 (CDT) X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Damieon Stark Cc: mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Omnibook 6000 apm In-Reply-To: Message from Damieon Stark of "Tue, 18 Sep 2001 15:34:48 CDT." <20010918153448.A59861@morpheus.telemere.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_2145244604P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 18:43:48 -0500 From: Andy Sparrow Message-Id: <20010918234348.4E0EE3E36@CRWdog.demon.co.uk> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --==_Exmh_2145244604P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, I mentioned this recently in a post to this list, along with a description of how the sound fails to resume correctly, and cannot now be kldunload'd (since sometime between early 4.3-STABLE & 4.4-RC). No-one responded to that post, so I guess no-one knows anything about it, or maybe it's already be done to death (I just re-subbed recently). IIRC, the only one of the above problems that was a issue 4.2-STABLE >= $VERSION <= 4.3-STABLE was the sound not working post-resume, and you could get around that by re-kldloading it. I'm seriously considering reverting to that version and XFree 3.3 - the combination was rock-solid and the problems could at least be worked around. You might try doing a 'halt' as opposed to 'reboot' or 'shutdown', and power-cycling when it tells you to press any key to restart - this avoids the 'fsck'. I only remember about 30% of the time, but it's still better than fsck'ing that 20Gb drive every time... As an aside, if your Omnibook is the 6000 with a Rage, you'll probably discover sooner-or-later the Rage 128 suspend-from-X issue too, which will also wedge your machine completely, with similar symptoms to the new hang-at-reboot ones. You might be interested in the patches described in: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=bin%2F28026 which have been addressing the latter problem for me for some time now. I do miss transparent suspend/resume though. My old 5700CTX Omnibook did that flawlessly, sound and all. Cheers, AS > > Greetings, > > I am very excited about my new laptop, but have noticed a small issue... > ;) On the off chance that someone already figured this one out... ( I have > searched the archives for an answer, and though many omnibook issues are > discussed, I didn't see this one.... > > Every time I use the shutdown command (or reboot) the box hangs after syncing. > It dies in a similar (but much more annyoying *fsck*) way upon suspend. I am > curious if anybody has had success with getting this box to suspend/shutdown. > If so, please send me configs (kernel/bios) or any tricks which you had to > use.... ;) > > TIA > > visigoth > > > -- > > Damieon Stark, CCSE > Unix/Network Security Engineer > > ______________________________________________________________________________ > Damieon Stark | Microsoft: Where do you want to go today? > e: visigoth@securitycentric.com | Linux: Where do you want to go tommorow? > p: 612.382.6945 | FreeBSD/Sun: Are you guys coming or what? > pgp: 0xBE5D0C57 | http://www.sun.com/solaris - The . in .com > pgp.mit.edu | http://www.freebsd.org - The power to serve! > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > I'll see your DMCA and raise you a First Amendment. > http://www.anti-dmca.org > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --==_Exmh_2145244604P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 iD8DBQE7p9w0PHh895bDXeQRAqotAJ0TiRK7LBZZP1ddZnlli1Y0RM1LJwCfY0Xs 5v5CjXYH5ggQ7sLVF2YVvNU= =Hz0q -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_2145244604P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Sep 18 19:14:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from 100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net (100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net [24.234.0.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BD4437B405 for ; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:14:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nevada.edu (cm110.19.234.24.lvcm.com [24.234.19.110]) by 100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id APA80613; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:14:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200109190214.APA80613@100m.mpr200-1.esr.lvcm.net> To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: currently available notebook solution? In-Reply-To: Message from Warner Losh of "Tue, 18 Sep 2001 09:38:27 MDT." <200109181538.f8IFcRW64576@harmony.village.org> Date: Tue, 18 Sep 2001 19:13:46 -0700 From: Steve Lumos Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anybody having luck with the newer IBMs? What's interesting about them is 1) integrated 802.11, 2) 1400x1050 screen. Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Tue Sep 18 23:48:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from suncom.itep.ru (suncom.itep.ru [193.124.225.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 603D837B405; Tue, 18 Sep 2001 23:48:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from raven.itep.ru (raven.itep.ru [193.124.225.163]) by suncom.itep.ru (8.11.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f8J6sNX19084; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:54:24 +0400 Received: from localhost (gubarev@localhost) by raven.itep.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA07936; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:38:35 +0400 (MSD) (envelope-from Fedor.Gubarev@itep.ru) From: Fedor.Gubarev@itep.ru X-Authentication-Warning: raven.itep.ru: gubarev owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:38:35 +0400 (MSD) X-Sender: gubarev@raven.itep.ru Reply-To: Fedor.Gubarev@itep.ru To: stable@freebsd.org, mobile@freebsd.org Subject: 4.4-STABLE: reboot stops after "Uptime ..." Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-2112601409-1000881515=:7676" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-2112601409-1000881515=:7676 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear all, Machine Sony Vaio PCG 955C, no problems (noticed) during upgrade 4.3-RELEASE -> 4.4-STABLE: ~>uname -a FreeBSD mip.itep.ru 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Tue Sep 18 21:38:28 MSD 2001 root@mip.itep.ru:/usr/src/sys/compile/Sony i386 Just after upgrade, reboot, halt, shutdown -p and friends stopped working from multiuser, machine freezes at syncing disks... 2 done Uptime: 17m27s Funny thing is that everything is OK from single user - something happens during normal boot sequence (apm, apmd are disabled completely, but problem seems to be independent on that). Mail-lists, FAQ etc gave no hints at all... Any ideas? Thanks in advance, Fedor. P.S dmesg, kernel config etc are attached, additional info available upon request. P.P.S. 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freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mbx.unige.ch (mbx.unige.ch [129.194.8.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F374B37B408 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 03:40:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from CONVERSION-DAEMON.mbx.unige.ch by mbx.unige.ch (PMDF V6.0-025 #38753) id <0GJW00101OAQQT@mbx.unige.ch> for freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:40:03 +0200 (MEST) Received: from issun17.issco.unige.ch (issun17.unige.ch [129.194.33.187]) by mbx.unige.ch (PMDF V6.0-025 #38753) with SMTP id <0GJW00164OAQEQ@mbx.unige.ch> for freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:40:02 +0200 (MEST) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:40:02 +0200 (MEST) From: Franck Thollard Subject: pccard on olivetti echo pro 200 To: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <15272.30210.355341.810402@gargle.gargle.HOWL> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: VM 6.71 under 21.1 (patch 7) "Biscayne" XEmacs Lucid Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Comment: This message was scanned against 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Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, I am trying to make freeBSD works on a olivetti echo pro 200. I first tried to install the regular distrib (4.1.1) but got some problem with the pcmcia driver (see the output of dmesg at the end of this email; at boot time I got a pcpcardc: /dev/card0: device not configured even though I tried to assign it an irq that no other device uses) I then try to install the PAO distribution (latest one (I guess) : 3.5) I first tried to install by booting with the PAO floppies and installing from the CDROM (4.1.1 regular distrib). The goal was to have a kernel from PAO, my regular distrib from the CD and to post-install the paobin. This scheme doesn't work (at least in the naive way): PAO prints me a message like : MAKEDEV returns non 0 value. Then everything failed. I then try to install my regular distrib, rebooting with the PAO floppies and install just the paobin and kernel. I then get a file system full (even if it should not be : 150 mb for / should be enougth). I then try to install the regular distrib and then to install by hand (using the install.sh script in paobin directory). Everything looks fine but the boot failed on a message : error in /etc/rc It proposes me to start a emergency shell but this was not possible since the / partition was not mounted. I made all the combinations I thought about. I am now stuck.... Questions : Is there any way of configuring the device /dev/p Is there any simple way of installiing PAO ? Why ? Thanks in advance. F. PS: Since I am not a guru, I would appreciate an answer as understandable as possible by a newby. Output of the dmsg command : Copyright (c) 1992-2000 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.1.1-RELEASE #0: Tue Sep 26 00:46:59 GMT 2000 jkh@narf.osd.bsdi.com:/usr/src/sys/compile/GENERIC Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium/P55C (199.43-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x543 Stepping = 3 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) config> di sn0 config> di lnc0 config> di le0 config> di ie0 config> di fe0 config> di ed0 config> di cs0 config> di aha0 config> en pcic0 config> po pcic0 0x3e0 config> ir pcic0 5 config> iom pcic0 0xd0000 config> f pcic0 0 config> q avail memory = 28684288 (28012K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0416000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc041609c. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 18.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0x370-0x373,0x3f0-0x3f3 mem 0x170-0x173,0x1f0-0x1f3 at device 18.1 on pci0 atapci0: Busmastering DMA not enabled ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 pci0: at 19.0 pcic-pci0: port 0xfcfc-0xfcff at device 20.0 on pci0 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 ad0: 2067MB [4200/16/63] at ata0-master using BIOSPIO acd0: CDROM at ata0-slave using BIOSPIO Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 19 4:55: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from air.linkclub.or.jp (air.linkclub.or.jp [210.250.19.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93E1A37B40F for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 04:55:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.jp.FreeBSD.org (1Cust22.tnt1.hanno.jp.da.uu.net [63.12.195.22]) by air.linkclub.or.jp (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f8JBpWW78053 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:51:32 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 20:32:40 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200109191132.f8JBWeM88990.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> From: Toshihiko ARAI To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] pccard_ether and removable_* variables In-Reply-To: <15270.11733.309708.185928@nomad.yogotech.com> References: <15245.13394.275183.61715@nomad.yogotech.com> <200109011153.f81BrZL93078.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> <15253.10889.977127.513674@nomad.yogotech.com> <200109051230.f85CUGQ39840.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> <15254.22900.863293.94059@nomad.yogotech.com> <200109071244.f87Cib011728.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> <15256.60442.758729.299336@nomad.yogotech.com> <200109141452.f8EEqJF33125.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> <15266.6852.389169.298534@nomad.yogotech.com> <200109160641.f8G6fxf55588.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> <15270.11733.309708.185928@nomad.yogotech.com> X-Mailer: VM 5.96 (beta) / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) based on 19.34.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org + <15270.11733.309708.185928@nomad.yogotech.com>, Nate Williams wrote: >> http://home.jp.FreeBSD.org/~toshi/pccard-current-20010916.diff >> http://home.jp.FreeBSD.org/~toshi/pccard-stable-20010916.diff > The only difference I might make it to have the static_routes_{if} > defined in the pccard section, since otherwise it might make things > confusing for non-removalbe users. > #static_routes_ed0="net1" # Set to static route list for ed0 by > # removable network interface. > Would it be possible/advisable to rename this variable to something like > 'removable_route_{if}' instead? That way it wouldn't be confused with > entries used for non-removable interfaces? I did not notice the risk. I consider this change to be good. -- Toshihiko ARAI To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 19 5:23:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from eken2.eken.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp (eken2.eken.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp [133.6.121.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04A8237B405; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 05:23:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eken7.eken.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp (eken7 [133.6.121.7]) by eken2.eken.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp (8.11.6+3.4W/3.7W-E) with ESMTP id f8JCNFO17452; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 21:23:15 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 21:23:15 +0900 Message-ID: From: yoichi@eken.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp To: stable@freebsd.org, mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.4-STABLE: reboot stops after "Uptime ..." In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.7.3 (Too Funky) SEMI/1.14.3 (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCNW0lTkMrGyhC?=) LIMIT/1.14.7 (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCRiMwZjt7GyhC?=) APEL/10.3 Emacs/20.7 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/4.0 (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCMlYxYxsoQg==?=) X-Face: wLZki+KbGjgKe0,<&3g*rA|R**vj[a8L%[v]ecJh1L(Uqm|LBx;v7Nq7n%?0d.aS]F#[~C\!{m?m,C&#U5}$_pZvBR>5VmX1Ol0`P\M-U8`sUF<5Quj'z&zzW8r|Zl9#W7Wut3duYzpKrP{n+AbarKtJ!i"Al7]P;-?[=iBZa*]r=>C':0~JECx]IH+RXq=/hUX}MB9e]oQKBxsDd/ MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - =?ISO-2022-JP?B?IhskQjVtGyhC?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJU5DKxsoQiI=?=) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi. I also have the problem (I have reported it in bsd-nomads Mailing List). For my case (Sony PCG-505V/CBX), if I remove pccard before rebooting, ethen my machine reboot by shutdown -r. > Machine Sony Vaio PCG 955C, no problems (noticed) during upgrade > 4.3-RELEASE -> 4.4-STABLE: ~>uname -a > FreeBSD mip.itep.ru 4.4-STABLE FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE #0: Tue Sep 18 21:38:28 MSD > 2001 root@mip.itep.ru:/usr/src/sys/compile/Sony i386 > Just after upgrade, reboot, halt, shutdown -p and friends stopped working from > multiuser, machine freezes at > syncing disks... 2 > done > Uptime: 17m27s -- Yoichi Nakayama E-ken, Dept. of Physics, Nagoya University http://www.eken.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp/~yoichi/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 19 5:40:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from raven.ravenbrook.com (raven.ravenbrook.com [193.82.131.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2DCC37B41C for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 05:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from thrush.ravenbrook.com (thrush.ravenbrook.com [193.112.141.249]) by raven.ravenbrook.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8JCeGa54736 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:40:16 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nb@ravenbrook.com) Received: from thrush.ravenbrook.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thrush.ravenbrook.com (8.11.4/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f8JCdcx25757 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:39:38 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from nb@thrush.ravenbrook.com) From: Nick Barnes To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: recommended notebook for FreeBSD Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 13:39:38 +0100 Message-ID: <25755.1000903178@thrush.ravenbrook.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am going to be doing some travelling on business, and need a notebook for light use. Can freebsd-mobile members recommend a machine from the current ranges of the major manufacturers? My desktop machine runs 4.3-RELENG with X, and I would like the same on the notebook. I need Ethernet, a modem, and a good screen, but I don't need a CD drive, a floppy drive (except maybe to install FreeBSD in the first place), or high performance. Nick Barnes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 19 6: 1:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from air.linkclub.or.jp (air.linkclub.or.jp [210.250.19.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8647237B415 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 06:01:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.jp.FreeBSD.org (1Cust40.tnt1.hanno.jp.da.uu.net [63.12.195.40]) by air.linkclub.or.jp (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f8JCvXW07400 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 21:57:34 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 21:40:51 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200109191240.f8JCepM89586.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> From: Toshihiko ARAI To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams), freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] pccard_ether and removable_* variables In-Reply-To: <200109191132.f8JBWeM88990.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> References: <15245.13394.275183.61715@nomad.yogotech.com> <200109011153.f81BrZL93078.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> <15253.10889.977127.513674@nomad.yogotech.com> <200109051230.f85CUGQ39840.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> <15254.22900.863293.94059@nomad.yogotech.com> <200109071244.f87Cib011728.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> <15256.60442.758729.299336@nomad.yogotech.com> <200109141452.f8EEqJF33125.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> <15266.6852.389169.298534@nomad.yogotech.com> <200109160641.f8G6fxf55588.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> <15270.11733.309708.185928@nomad.yogotech.com> <200109191132.f8JBWeM88990.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: VM 5.96 (beta) / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) based on 19.34.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org + <200109191132.f8JBWeM88990.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org>, Toshihiko ARAI wrote: >> The only difference I might make it to have the static_routes_{if} >> defined in the pccard section, since otherwise it might make things >> confusing for non-removalbe users. >> #static_routes_ed0="net1" # Set to static route list for ed0 by >> # removable network interface. >> Would it be possible/advisable to rename this variable to something like >> 'removable_route_{if}' instead? That way it wouldn't be confused with >> entries used for non-removable interfaces? > I did not notice the risk. I consider this change to be good. I updated a patch as follows. http://home.jp.FreeBSD.org/~toshi/pccard-current-20010919.diff http://home.jp.FreeBSD.org/~toshi/pccard-stable-20010919.diff -- Toshihiko ARAI To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 19 8:16:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from lennier.cc.vt.edu (lennier.cc.vt.edu [198.82.162.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FE5337B411 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:16:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dagger.cc.vt.edu (IDENT:mirapoint@dagger.cc.vt.edu [198.82.161.182]) by lennier.cc.vt.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f8JFGin480282 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:16:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: from lennier.cc.vt.edu (lennier.cc.vt.edu [198.82.162.213]) by dagger.cc.vt.edu (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id AIS21819; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:16:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from mail.vt.edu (gkar.cc.vt.edu [198.82.161.190]) by lennier.cc.vt.edu (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f8JFGch482021 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:16:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from psych.ward.vt.edu ([128.173.242.19]) by gkar.cc.vt.edu (Sun Internet Mail Server sims.3.5.2001.05.04.11.50.p10) with SMTP id <0GJX00JUE13P6H@gkar.cc.vt.edu> for freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:16:37 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:16:37 -0400 From: Daniel Fisher Subject: how to setup wireless card To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Reply-To: daniel.fisher@vt.edu Message-id: <01091911163700.03662@psych.ward.vt.edu> Organization: Virginia Tech MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Is there a FAQ somewhere that explains how to setup your wireless card? I have a Lucent WaveLAN that appears to be working, but doesn't. The card is recognized at boot time. I then run: wicontrol -i wi0 -n NETWORK-NAME -p 1 Followed by: dhclient wi0 The lights on the card say it is working, however if I run: ping -I wi0 www.google.com I get this error: ping: invalid multicast interface: 'wi0' Any help would be appreciated... Thanks -- Daniel Fisher To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 19 8:28:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from ns.yogotech.com (ns.yogotech.com [206.127.123.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BFB237B401 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:28:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nomad.yogotech.com (nomad.yogotech.com [206.127.123.131]) by ns.yogotech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA00481; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:28:30 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate@nomad.yogotech.com) Received: (from nate@localhost) by nomad.yogotech.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id JAA28515; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:28:23 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from nate) From: Nate Williams MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15272.47511.402988.539220@nomad.yogotech.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:28:23 -0600 To: Toshihiko ARAI Cc: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams), freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [PATCH] pccard_ether and removable_* variables In-Reply-To: <200109191240.f8JCepM89586.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> References: <15245.13394.275183.61715@nomad.yogotech.com> <200109011153.f81BrZL93078.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> <15253.10889.977127.513674@nomad.yogotech.com> <200109051230.f85CUGQ39840.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> <15254.22900.863293.94059@nomad.yogotech.com> <200109071244.f87Cib011728.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> <15256.60442.758729.299336@nomad.yogotech.com> <200109141452.f8EEqJF33125.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> <15266.6852.389169.298534@nomad.yogotech.com> <200109160641.f8G6fxf55588.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> <15270.11733.309708.185928@nomad.yogotech.com> <200109191132.f8JBWeM88990.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> <200109191240.f8JCepM89586.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.95 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > >> The only difference I might make it to have the static_routes_{if} > >> defined in the pccard section, since otherwise it might make things > >> confusing for non-removalbe users. > > >> #static_routes_ed0="net1" # Set to static route list for ed0 by > >> # removable network interface. > > >> Would it be possible/advisable to rename this variable to something like > >> 'removable_route_{if}' instead? That way it wouldn't be confused with > >> entries used for non-removable interfaces? > > > I did not notice the risk. I consider this change to be good. > > I updated a patch as follows. > > http://home.jp.FreeBSD.org/~toshi/pccard-current-20010919.diff > http://home.jp.FreeBSD.org/~toshi/pccard-stable-20010919.diff Neither URL exists for me. :( Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 19 8:31:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mail.linuxcare.com (mail.linuxcare.com [216.88.157.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E853437B412 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:31:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linuxcare.com (wiliweld.i.linuxcare.com [10.1.0.139]) by mail.linuxcare.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17FE03B8 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:31:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3BA8BBC2.4583CBF8@linuxcare.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:37:38 -0700 From: Bill Schoolcraft Organization: " LINUX, A Way of Life !!" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to setup wireless card References: <01091911163700.03662@psych.ward.vt.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Daniel Fisher wrote: > > Is there a FAQ somewhere that explains how to setup your wireless card? > I have a Lucent WaveLAN that appears to be working, but doesn't. > The card is recognized at boot time. > I then run: > wicontrol -i wi0 -n NETWORK-NAME -p 1 > Followed by: > dhclient wi0 > The lights on the card say it is working, however if I run: > ping -I wi0 www.google.com > I get this error: > ping: invalid multicast interface: 'wi0' > > Any help would be appreciated... > Thanks I have the following (blue collar) script that works fine for me with a gold card at home. I have the first few lines when I have to reset the card for whatever reasons. ############################################################ #!/bin/sh /sbin/route flush /sbin/ifconfig wi0 down echo echo "Your location should be at home!!!" sleep 5 echo /sbin/route add -net 192.168.1.0 255.255.255.0 2>/dev/null echo "Running setup script for static IP 192.168.1.20 " sleep 2 /sbin/ifconfig wi0 192.168.1.20 broadcast 192.168.1.255 netmask 255.255.255.0 up 2>/dev/null echo echo "Setting up gateway................" /sbin/route add -net default 192.168.1.1 2>/dev/null /usr/sbin/wicontrol -i wi0 -n network_name_here /usr/sbin/wicontrol -i wi0 -p 1 /usr/sbin/wicontrol -i wi0 -c 1 /usr/sbin/wicontrol -i wi0 -s network_name_here #echo echo "Should be setup now..............." echo #sleep 5 echo ping -c2 yahoo.com echo ########################################################## -- Bill Schoolcraft Linux/Unix System Engineer 650 Townsend Street San Francisco, CA 94103 SF (415) 354-4878 http://www.linuxcare.com "Linux/Unix, A Way Of Life." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 19 8:32:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from shinatama.hayai.de (tekkno.tv [212.222.165.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E34F737B405 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:32:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from marco@localhost) by shinatama.hayai.de (8.11.6/8.11.3) id f8JHWCL53295; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:32:12 GMT (envelope-from marco) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:32:12 +0000 From: Marco Wertejuk To: daniel.fisher@vt.edu Cc: freebsd-mobile@FREEBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how to setup wireless card Message-ID: <20010919173212.A53158@localhost.com> References: <01091911163700.03662@psych.ward.vt.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01091911163700.03662@psych.ward.vt.edu>; from dfisher@vt.edu on Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 11:16:37AM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, | I then run: | wicontrol -i wi0 -n NETWORK-NAME -p 1 | Followed by: | dhclient wi0 does dhclient succeed? | The lights on the card say it is working, however if I run: | ping -I wi0 www.google.com man ping: -I interface Source multicast packets with the given interface address. This flag only applies if the ping destination is a multicast address. You surely want to send multicast packets? Maybe you can check whether your card is logged into a wireless network (i'm not using lucent cards but there should be some signal strength indicators which wicontrol will display). Please be more descriptive. -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen, Marco Wertejuk - mwcis.com Computer/Internet/Security-Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 19 8:35:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from shinatama.hayai.de (tekkno.tv [212.222.165.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BB2637B419 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:35:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from marco@localhost) by shinatama.hayai.de (8.11.6/8.11.3) id f8JHZhO53372; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:35:43 GMT (envelope-from marco) Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 17:35:43 +0000 From: Marco Wertejuk To: Bill Schoolcraft Cc: freebsd-mobile@FREEBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how to setup wireless card Message-ID: <20010919173543.B53158@localhost.com> References: <01091911163700.03662@psych.ward.vt.edu> <3BA8BBC2.4583CBF8@linuxcare.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3BA8BBC2.4583CBF8@linuxcare.com>; from bill@linuxcare.com on Wed, Sep 19, 2001 at 08:37:38AM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, just a note: you're setting the station name equal to the networkname (-s for wicontrol) which is not neccessary and even not useful. The station name should be something like the clients hostname or just be untouched (default is something like "LucentIBBS/FreeBSD client" or so. -- Mit freundlichen Gruessen, Marco Wertejuk - mwcis.com Computer/Internet/Security-Services To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 19 8:44:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 303E437B414; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:44:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8JFiou14868; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:44:51 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f8JFio703561; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:44:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200109191544.f8JFio703561@harmony.village.org> To: Fedor.Gubarev@itep.ru Subject: Re: 4.4-STABLE: reboot stops after "Uptime ..." Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:38:35 +0400." References: Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:44:50 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message Fedor.Gubarev@itep.ru writes: : Just after upgrade, reboot, halt, shutdown -p and friends stopped working from : multiuser, machine freezes at : : syncing disks... 2 : done : Uptime: 17m27s : : Funny thing is that everything is OK from single user - something happens : during normal boot sequence (apm, apmd are disabled completely, but problem : seems to be independent on that). Mail-lists, FAQ etc gave no hints at all... : : Any ideas? Try disabling pccard and running the experiment. Eg, boot to multi-user. If it fails, then you know the problem. irq 0 is something that I'd love to have a machine that tickles. Now that we're out of code freeze, I can do a wider range of fixes than I could before 4.4. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 19 8:46:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9F0437B403 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:46:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8JFkIu14884; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:46:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f8JFkI703591; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:46:18 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200109191546.f8JFkI703591@harmony.village.org> To: Franck Thollard Subject: Re: pccard on olivetti echo pro 200 Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:40:02 +0200." <15272.30210.355341.810402@gargle.gargle.HOWL> References: <15272.30210.355341.810402@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:46:18 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <15272.30210.355341.810402@gargle.gargle.HOWL> Franck Thollard writes: : pcpcardc: /dev/card0: device not configured You need to set the I/O address of the pcic device to be 0xfcfc. Or you need to upgrade to 4.4. 4.4 works with single slot 6729, but not the dual slot 6730. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 19 8:49:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 427BC37B40D; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 08:49:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8JFn5u14906; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:49:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f8JFn5703628; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:49:05 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200109191549.f8JFn5703628@harmony.village.org> To: yoichi@eken.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp Subject: Re: 4.4-STABLE: reboot stops after "Uptime ..." Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Sep 2001 21:23:15 +0900." References: Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:49:05 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message yoichi@eken.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp writes: : Hi. : I also have the problem (I have reported it in bsd-nomads Mailing List). I saw that and thought I had replied. Please accept my profuse appologies if I failed to do so. : For my case (Sony PCG-505V/CBX), if I remove pccard before rebooting, : ethen my machine reboot by shutdown -r. It sounds like the chip is interrupting with nothing to service the interrupt. I thought that I'd turned off all interrupt sources. Does your dmesg also show an attempt to use irq 0? Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 19 9:13:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from smtpproxy1.mitre.org (smtpproxy1.mitre.org [129.83.20.90]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08ACC37B40C for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:13:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: from avsrv1.mitre.org (avsrv1.mitre.org [129.83.20.58]) by smtpproxy1.mitre.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8JGCqE21759; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:12:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from MAILHUB1 (mailhub1.mitre.org [129.83.20.31]) by smtpsrv1.mitre.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8JGCof03587; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:12:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from dhcp-105-164.mitre.org (128.29.105.164) by mailhub1.mitre.org with SMTP id 7662174; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:12:39 -0400 Message-ID: <3BA8C3FF.96973B72@mitre.org> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:12:47 -0400 From: Jason Andresen Organization: The MITRE Corporation X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en]C-20000818M (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nick Barnes Cc: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Re: recommended notebook for FreeBSD References: <25755.1000903178@thrush.ravenbrook.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nick Barnes wrote: > > I am going to be doing some travelling on business, and need a > notebook for light use. Can freebsd-mobile members recommend a > machine from the current ranges of the major manufacturers? > > My desktop machine runs 4.3-RELENG with X, and I would like the same > on the notebook. I need Ethernet, a modem, and a good screen, but I > don't need a CD drive, a floppy drive (except maybe to install FreeBSD > in the first place), or high performance. You might try ebay. Lots of people on there are nuts and pay way too much for stuff, but occasionally a good deal slips through. Just be careful to check that the seller isn't trying to offload some broken laptop. -- \ |_ _|__ __|_ \ __| Jason Andresen jandrese@mitre.org |\/ | | | / _| Network and Distributed Systems Engineer _| _|___| _| _|_\___| Office: 703-883-7755 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 19 9:25:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from rover.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 402AA37B40E for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:25:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (harmony.village.org [10.0.0.6]) by rover.village.org (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f8JGPKu15008; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:25:21 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id f8JGPG703842; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:25:20 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200109191625.f8JGPG703842@harmony.village.org> To: Jason Andresen Subject: Re: recommended notebook for FreeBSD Cc: Nick Barnes , freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 19 Sep 2001 12:12:47 EDT." <3BA8C3FF.96973B72@mitre.org> References: <3BA8C3FF.96973B72@mitre.org> <25755.1000903178@thrush.ravenbrook.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:25:16 -0600 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In message <3BA8C3FF.96973B72@mitre.org> Jason Andresen writes: : You might try ebay. Lots of people on there are nuts and pay way too : much for stuff, but occasionally a good deal slips through. Just : be careful to check that the seller isn't trying to offload some : broken laptop. Yes. Ebay is my source of old, slightly broken laptops for testing various bridge chipsets. Too few people here are willing to donate[*] them to me, so I have to do something :-) Warner [*] I think that I'm set for laptops at the moment. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 19 9:30:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from air.linkclub.or.jp (air.linkclub.or.jp [210.250.19.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D89837B41B for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:30:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.jp.FreeBSD.org (1Cust81.tnt1.hanno.jp.da.uu.net [63.12.195.81]) by air.linkclub.or.jp (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f8JGQcW02521 for ; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 01:26:42 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 01:27:48 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <200109191627.f8JGRms00795.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> From: Toshihiko ARAI To: nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams) Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: [PATCH] pccard_ether and removable_* variables In-Reply-To: <15272.47511.402988.539220@nomad.yogotech.com> References: <200109191240.f8JCepM89586.toshi@jp.FreeBSD.org> <15272.47511.402988.539220@nomad.yogotech.com> X-Mailer: VM 5.96 (beta) / Mule 2.3 (SUETSUMUHANA) based on 19.34.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 (generated by tm-edit 7.106) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org + <15272.47511.402988.539220@nomad.yogotech.com>, Nate Williams wrote: >> I updated a patch as follows. >> >> http://home.jp.FreeBSD.org/~toshi/pccard-current-20010919.diff >> http://home.jp.FreeBSD.org/~toshi/pccard-stable-20010919.diff > Neither URL exists for me. :( I'm sorry. I put it and fixed. Please try it once again. -- Toshihiko ARAI To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 19 9:32:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from jupiter.linuxengine.net (jupiter.linuxengine.net [209.61.188.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D04EB37B41A for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:32:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jupiterweb.commercevault.com (jupiterweb.commercevault.com [209.61.179.16] (may be forged)) by jupiter.linuxengine.net (8.11.6/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f8JGguP06082; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:42:56 -0500 Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 11:42:56 -0500 (CDT) From: John Utz X-X-Sender: To: Jason Andresen Cc: Nick Barnes , Subject: Re: recommended notebook for FreeBSD In-Reply-To: <3BA8C3FF.96973B72@mitre.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i bought an hp800ct (the little mouse on a stick computer) for us$159 as a 'Buy It Now' and the floppy drive for us$29. i havent bought the cd because i dont care :-). i could have probably bid for less, but the hassle wasnt worth it..... it's a cardbus pccard, not pcmcia, but 4.4-release is supposed to support it in pcmcia compatiblity mode - i havent had the chance to try it yet cause i need to do a bios upgrade. i guess i am making 2 points: 1.ebay is great for used laptops if you buy from a good seller "Asisforyou" (or As_is_for_you" i cant remember) is the guy i bought mine from and he's well ranked. 2.i have lusted after the 800ct since they first came out and despite being hmm...1997....2001 4 years old, it *still* meets my expectations! fits in my bag, has enuf battery for the bus (2hours), doesnt weight too much, and runs sawfish adequately ( and sawfish is scheme based, so we are talking interpreted WM here! ). i think i'd like it even better when i replace the 16M extra ram with the 64M so that i have 80M. and, having paid less than us$200 for it, if something bad happens to it ( like i forget it on the bus or something :-) ) i wont have caused myself financial ruin. On Wed, 19 Sep 2001, Jason Andresen wrote: > Nick Barnes wrote: > > > > I am going to be doing some travelling on business, and need a > > notebook for light use. Can freebsd-mobile members recommend a > > machine from the current ranges of the major manufacturers? > > > > My desktop machine runs 4.3-RELENG with X, and I would like the same > > on the notebook. I need Ethernet, a modem, and a good screen, but I > > don't need a CD drive, a floppy drive (except maybe to install FreeBSD > > in the first place), or high performance. > > You might try ebay. Lots of people on there are nuts and pay way too > much for stuff, but occasionally a good deal slips through. Just > be careful to check that the seller isn't trying to offload some > broken laptop. > > -- John L. Utz III john@utzweb.net Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 19 9:38:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from mail.linuxcare.com (mail.linuxcare.com [216.88.157.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4313737B412 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:38:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from linuxcare.com (wiliweld.i.linuxcare.com [10.1.0.139]) by mail.linuxcare.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C4F93B8 for ; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:38:39 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3BA8CB7B.628C93B5@linuxcare.com> Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2001 09:44:43 -0700 From: Bill Schoolcraft Organization: " LINUX, A Way of Life !!" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-mobile@FREEBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how to setup wireless card References: <01091911163700.03662@psych.ward.vt.edu> <3BA8BBC2.4583CBF8@linuxcare.com> <20010919173543.B53158@localhost.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Marco Wertejuk wrote: > > Hello, > > just a note: > you're setting the station name equal to the networkname > (-s for wicontrol) which is not neccessary and even not > useful. > The station name should be something like the clients > hostname or just be untouched (default is something > like "LucentIBBS/FreeBSD client" or so. > > -- > Mit freundlichen Gruessen, > Marco Wertejuk - mwcis.com > Computer/Internet/Security-Services Hmmm, thanks I'll check that again and see what I was thinking of. That script I had archived and it may not be the exact one I currently using, looking at where I commented out some lines reminded me it wasn't finished when I archived it, I'll fire up the laptop in a bit to see the one I'm currently using. -- Bill Schoolcraft Linux/Unix System Engineer 650 Townsend Street San Francisco, CA 94103 SF (415) 354-4878 http://www.linuxcare.com "Linux/Unix, A Way Of Life." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-mobile" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-mobile Wed Sep 19 10:48:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Received: from eken2.eken.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp (eken2.eken.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp [133.6.121.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7270537B410; Wed, 19 Sep 2001 10:47:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from eken3.eken.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp (eken3 [133.6.121.3]) by eken2.eken.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp (8.11.6+3.4W/3.7W-E) with ESMTP id f8JHlNO19257; Thu, 20 Sep 2001 02:47:23 +0900 (JST) Date: Thu, 20 Sep 2001 02:47:23 +0900 Message-ID: From: yoichi@eken.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp To: Warner Losh Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.4-STABLE: reboot stops after "Uptime ..." In-Reply-To: <200109191549.f8JFn5703628@harmony.village.org> References: <200109191549.f8JFn5703628@harmony.village.org> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.7.3 (Too Funky) SEMI/1.14.3 (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCNW0lTkMrGyhC?=) LIMIT/1.14.7 (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCRiMwZjt7GyhC?=) APEL/10.3 Emacs/20.7 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/4.0 (=?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCMlYxYxsoQg==?=) X-Face: wLZki+KbGjgKe0,<&3g*rA|R**vj[a8L%[v]ecJh1L(Uqm|LBx;v7Nq7n%?0d.aS]F#[~C\!{m?m,C&#U5}$_pZvBR>5VmX1Ol0`P\M-U8`sUF<5Quj'z&zzW8r|Zl9#W7Wut3duYzpKrP{n+AbarKtJ!i"Al7]P;-?[=iBZa*]r=>C':0~JECx]IH+RXq=/hUX}MB9e]oQKBxsDd/ MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.14.3 - =?ISO-2022-JP?B?IhskQjVtGyhC?= =?ISO-2022-JP?B?GyRCJU5DKxsoQiI=?=) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Multipart_Thu_Sep_20_02:47:23_2001-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --Multipart_Thu_Sep_20_02:47:23_2001-1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >>> Warner Losh wrote: > : For my case (Sony PCG-505V/CBX), if I remove pccard before rebooting, > : then my machine reboot by shutdown -r. > It sounds like the chip is interrupting with nothing to service the > interrupt. I thought that I'd turned off all interrupt sources. > Does your dmesg also show an attempt to use irq 0? I have following in /boot/loader.conf with warner's advice. hw.pcic.intr_path=1 hw.pcic.irq=0 # Today I get another information in bsd-nomads mailing list # that I should put following on rc.shutdown # # /usr/sbin/pccardc power 0 0 # # it also works (correctly reboot as well as I removed card before # rebooting). Following is dmesg: --Multipart_Thu_Sep_20_02:47:23_2001-1 Content-Type: application/octet-stream Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="dmesg" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.4-RC #2: Mon Sep 10 15:44:22 JST 2001 yoichi@e-ppp4.eken.phys.nagoya-u.ac.jp:/usr/src/obj/usr/src/sys/ALBATROS Calibrating clock(s) ... TSC clock: 298385430 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193040 Hz CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CLK_USE_TSC_CALIBRATION not specified - using old calibration method CPU: Pentium/P55C (quarter-micron) (298.42-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x582 Stepping = 2 Features=0x8001bf real memory = 67043328 (65472K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x00001000 - 0x0009efff, 647168 bytes (158 pages) 0x00509000 - 0x03fe7fff, 61730816 bytes (15071 pages) avail memory = 60276736 (58864K bytes) bios32: Found BIOS32 Service Directory header at 0xc00f6d60 bios32: Entry = 0xfd7f0 (c00fd7f0) Rev = 0 Len = 1 pcibios: PCI BIOS entry at 0x214 pnpbios: Found PnP BIOS data at 0xc00f6d90 pnpbios: Entry = f0000:ba79 Rev = 1.0 pnpbios: Event flag at 4b4 Other BIOS signatures found: ACPI: 000f6d20 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel.new" at 0xc04e3000. Intel Pentium detected, installing workaround for F00F bug netsmb_dev: loaded md0: Malloc disk Creating DISK md0 Math emulator present pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x80000058 pci_open(1a): mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000) pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=060000] [hdr=00] is there (id=71008086) Using $PIR table, 4 entries at 0xc00fdf80 apm0: on motherboard apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface i586_bzero() bandwidth = 174216027 bytes/sec bzero() bandwidth = 719942404 bytes/sec pcib0: on motherboard found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7100, revid=0x01 class=06-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7110, revid=0x02 class=06-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=1 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7111, revid=0x01 class=01-01-80, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 map[20]: type 1, range 32, base 0000fcd0, size 4 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7112, revid=0x01 class=0c-03-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=d, irq=9 map[20]: type 1, range 32, base 0000fce0, size 5 found-> vendor=0x8086, dev=0x7113, revid=0x02 class=06-80-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 map[90]: type 1, range 32, base 00002180, size 4 found-> vendor=0x10c8, dev=0x0004, revid=0x01 class=03-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=9 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base fd000000, size 24 map[14]: type 1, range 32, base fea00000, size 21 map[18]: type 1, range 32, base fed00000, size 20 found-> vendor=0x104d, dev=0x8009, revid=0x01 class=0c-00-00, hdrtype=0x00, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=9 map[10]: type 1, range 32, base fecffc00, size 9 found-> vendor=0x1180, dev=0x0475, revid=0x00 class=06-07-00, hdrtype=0x02, mfdev=0 subordinatebus=0 secondarybus=0 intpin=a, irq=255 pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xfcd0-0xfcdf at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: iobase=0x01f0 altiobase=0x03f6 bmaddr=0xfcd0 ata0: mask=03 status0=50 status1=00 ata0: mask=03 ostat0=50 ostat2=00 ata0-master: ATAPI probe a=00 b=00 ata0-slave: ATAPI probe a=00 b=00 ata0: mask=03 status0=50 status1=00 ata0-master: ATA probe a=01 b=a5 ata0: devices=01 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: iobase=0x0170 altiobase=0x0376 bmaddr=0xfcd8 ata1: mask=03 status0=00 status1=00 ata1: mask=03 ostat0=00 ostat2=00 ata1-master: ATAPI probe a=00 b=00 ata1-slave: ATAPI probe a=00 b=00 ata1: mask=03 status0=00 status1=00 ata1: devices=00 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xfce0-0xfcff irq 9 at device 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered intpm0: port 0x2180-0x218f irq 9 at device 7.3 on pci0 intpm0: I/O mapped 2180 intpm0: intr IRQ 9 enabled revision 0 using shared irq9. smbus0: on intsmb0 smb0: on smbus0 intpm0: PM I/O mapped 8000 pci0: (vendor=0x10c8, dev=0x0004) at 8.0 irq 9 chip1: mem 0xfecffc00-0xfecffdff irq 9 at device 9.0 on pci0 pcic0: at device 10.0 on pci0 pcic0: PCI Memory allocated: 0x44000000 pcic0: Polling mode pccard0: on pcic0 ex_isa_identify() ata-: ata0 exists, using next available unit number ata-: ata1 exists, using next available unit number pcic-: pcic0 exists, using next available unit number pcic-: pcic1 exists, using next available unit number Trying Read_Port at 203 Trying Read_Port at 243 Trying Read_Port at 283 Trying Read_Port at 2c3 Trying Read_Port at 303 Trying Read_Port at 343 Trying Read_Port at 383 Trying Read_Port at 3c3 pnpbios: 19 devices, largest 317 bytes PNP0c02: adding fixed memory32 range 0xfffe0000-0xffffffff, size=0x20000 PNP0c02: adding io range 0x4d0-0x4d1, size=0x2, align=0x1 PNP0c02: adding io range 0x80-0x80, size=0x1, align=0x1 PNP0c02: adding io range 0x72-0x73, size=0x2, align=0x1 PNP0c02: adding io range 0x370-0x371, size=0x2, align=0x1 PNP0c02: adding io range 0xb2-0xb3, size=0x2, align=0x1 PNP0c02: adding io range 0x8000-0x804f, size=0x50, align=0x1 PNP0c02: adding io range 0x2180-0x218f, size=0x10, align=0x1 PNP0c02: adding io range 0x230-0x233, size=0x4, align=0x1 PNP0c02: end config pnpbios: handle 0 device ID PNP0c02 (020cd041) PNP0c01: adding fixed memory32 range 0-0x9ffff, size=0xa0000 PNP0c01: adding fixed memory32 range 0xe8000-0xfffff, size=0x18000 PNP0c01: adding fixed memory32 range 0x100000-0x3ffffff, size=0x3f00000 PNP0c01: end config pnpbios: handle 1 device ID PNP0c01 (010cd041) PNP0200: adding io range 0-0xf, size=0x10, align=0x1 PNP0200: adding io range 0x81-0x8f, size=0xf, align=0x1 PNP0200: adding io range 0xc0-0xdf, size=0x20, align=0x1 PNP0200: adding dma mask 0x10 PNP0200: end config pnpbios: handle 2 device ID PNP0200 (0002d041) PNP0000: adding io range 0x20-0x21, size=0x2, align=0x1 PNP0000: adding io range 0xa0-0xa1, size=0x2, align=0x1 PNP0000: adding irq mask 00x4 PNP0000: end config pnpbios: handle 3 device ID PNP0000 (0000d041) PNP0100: adding io range 0x40-0x43, size=0x4, align=0x1 PNP0100: adding irq mask 00x1 PNP0100: end config pnpbios: handle 4 device ID PNP0100 (0001d041) PNP0b00: adding io range 0x70-0x71, size=0x2, align=0x1 PNP0b00: adding irq mask 0x100 PNP0b00: end config pnpbios: handle 5 device ID PNP0b00 (000bd041) PNP0303: adding io range 0x60-0x60, size=0x1, align=0x1 PNP0303: adding io range 0x64-0x64, size=0x1, align=0x1 PNP0303: adding irq mask 00x2 PNP0303: end config pnpbios: handle 6 device ID PNP0303 (0303d041) PNP0c04: adding io range 0xf0-0xff, size=0x10, align=0x1 PNP0c04: adding irq mask 0x2000 PNP0c04: end config pnpbios: handle 7 device ID PNP0c04 (040cd041) PNP0800: adding io range 0x61-0x61, size=0x1, align=0x1 PNP0800: end config pnpbios: handle 8 device ID PNP0800 (0008d041) PNP0a03: adding io range 0xcf8-0xcff, size=0x8, align=0x1 PNP0a03: end config pnpbios: handle 9 device ID PNP0a03 (030ad041) ESS1879: adding dma mask 0x2 ESS1879: adding dma mask 0x20 ESS1879: adding irq mask 0x20 ESS1879: adding io range 0x220-0x22f, size=0x10, align=0x20 ESS1879: adding io range 0x388-0x38b, size=0x4, align=0x4 ESS1879: adding io range 0x320-0x321, size=0x2, align=0x10 ESS1879: end config pnpbios: handle 10 device ID ESS1879 (79187316) PNP0e03: adding io range 0-0xffffffff, size=0, align=0 PNP0e03: end config pnpbios: handle 11 device ID PNP0e03 (030ed041) PNP0700: adding io range 0x3f0-0x3f5, size=0x6, align=0x8 PNP0700: adding io range 0x3f7-0x3f7, size=0x1, align=0x1 PNP0700: adding irq mask 0x40 PNP0700: adding dma mask 0x4 PNP0700: end config pnpbios: handle 12 device ID PNP0700 (0007d041) PNP0401: adding io range 0x378-0x37f, size=0x8, align=0x1 PNP0401: adding io range 0x778-0x77f, size=0x8, align=0x1 PNP0401: adding irq mask 0x80 PNP0401: adding dma mask 0x8 PNP0401: end config pnpbios: handle 15 device ID PNP0401 (0104d041) PNP0501: adding io range 0x3f8-0x3ff, size=0x8, align=0x1 PNP0501: adding irq mask 0x10 PNP0501: end config pnpbios: handle 16 device ID PNP0501 (0105d041) SMCf010: adding io range 0x3e8-0x3ef, size=0x8, align=0x1 SMCf010: adding irq mask 0x400 SMCf010: adding io range 0x140-0x147, size=0x8, align=0x8 SMCf010: adding dma mask 0x1 SMCf010: end config pnpbios: handle 19 device ID SMCf010 (10f0a34d) ROK0010: adding io range 0x2f8-0x2ff, size=0x8, align=0x1 ROK0010: adding irq mask 00x8 ROK0010: end config pnpbios: handle 20 device ID ROK0010 (1000eb49) PNP0f13: adding irq mask 0x1000 PNP0f13: end config pnpbios: handle 21 device ID PNP0f13 (130fd041) ESS0009: adding io range 0x800-0x807, size=0x8, align=0x8 ESS0009: end config pnpbios: handle 23 device ID ESS0009 (09007316) isa_probe_children: disabling PnP devices isa_probe_children: probing non-PnP devices orm0: