From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Apr 15 21: 4:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web13706.mail.yahoo.com (web13706.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3768737B424 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:04:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd_stuff@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010416040426.56477.qmail@web13706.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.111.4.235] by web13706.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:04:26 PDT Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:04:26 -0700 (PDT) From: - - To: a , b , INVALID_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Apr 15 21:11:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web13702.mail.yahoo.com (web13702.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3AF4B37B424 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:11:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd_stuff@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010416041150.19047.qmail@web13702.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.111.4.235] by web13702.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:11:50 PDT Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:11:50 -0700 (PDT) From: - - Subject: how to modify the view of Xwindow? To: a , b , INVALID_ADDRESS@.SYNTAX-ERROR MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I'm wondering how I can change the configuration of display property of X Window. Mine is set to 8bit per Pixel with 640x480 by default. I'd like to change it to 24or32bit per pixel with 1024x768. How do I do that without re-configuring for X? In another words, is there any way of only chaning of above configuration like Windowz? TIA, kero __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Apr 15 21:21:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web13701.mail.yahoo.com (web13701.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E771E37B423 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:21:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd_stuff@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010416042146.61087.qmail@web13701.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.111.4.235] by web13701.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:21:46 PDT Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:21:46 -0700 (PDT) From: - - To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi all, I'm wondering how I can modify the configuration of display property (of Xwindow). Mine is set to 8bit per pixel with 640x480 by default. I'd like to change it to 24/32bit per pixel with 1024x768 without re-configuraing the X (using XF86Setup or xf86config). In another words, like Windowz, is there any way to change only those properties? Any comments or helps are appreciated! TIA, kero __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Apr 15 21:25:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web13706.mail.yahoo.com (web13706.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8F54237B424 for ; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:25:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd_stuff@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010416042518.62073.qmail@web13706.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.111.4.235] by web13706.mail.yahoo.com; Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:25:18 PDT Date: Sun, 15 Apr 2001 21:25:18 -0700 (PDT) From: - - Subject: which server should I pick for my card? To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hi all, Has anyone out there successfully run X on a machine with 32MB DDR nVidia GeForce2 GTS 4x APG Graphic Card? I'm having problem choosing a X server. Which server should I choose for this card? The generic XF86-SVGA or something else? Any comments or helps are appreciated! TIA, kero __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Apr 16 4:49:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from hp06.postech.ac.kr (smtp.postech.ac.kr [141.223.2.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FA1537B423 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 04:49:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lahaye@postech.edu) Received: from postech.edu (IDENT:lahaye@surfion4.postech.ac.kr [141.223.126.84]) by hp06.postech.ac.kr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA20116 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:49:34 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3ADADC5E.D59F7668@postech.edu> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:49:50 +0900 From: "R. Lahaye" Organization: Postech X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.17-21mdk i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PC doesn't boot after install Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm fairly new to FreeBSD, but quite familiar with Linux. I have an old Pentium-I 120 MHz PC, 1.5 Gb HD, which is running Mandrake Linux 7.2 just fine. I wanted to replace the OS by FreeBSD, as my first FreeBSD experience. Installation itself via ftp goes smooth. In fdisk I dedicated the whole HD to FreeBSD, without being compatible with other OS. Then an Auto-partitioning of the single FreeBSD slice. Installed everything, went smoothly through the post-install settings and exited the Installation procedure. When the PC reboots, it just stops after the BIOS. Nothing happens, no complains, nothing. Just stops. I tried reinstalling with other fdisk options, such as partitioning with a bootloader. To no avail. Any idea what could be the problem here? Thanks, Rob. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Apr 16 18:46:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from bromine.intertech.net (mail.galaxyispc.com [24.223.0.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A579A37B422 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 18:46:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lgoodbar@ispchannel.com) Received: from IO (cm-205-218-230-234.oxford.galaxy.ispchannel.com [205.218.230.234]) by bromine.intertech.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3H1kTq33274 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:46:32 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from lgoodbar@ispchannel.com) From: Loyd Goodbar To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Upgrading X from 3.3.6 to 4 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 20:46:09 -0500 Reply-To: lgoodbar@ispchannel.com Message-ID: X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Just installed 4.2 FreeBSD. I want to upgrade X from 3.3.6 to 4. What's = the easiest way to do this through the ports? Can I just install X4 over = X336? I don't want to uninstall X336, I have KDE2 and other stuff installed over it.... Any hints, thanks! Loyd -- Loyd Goodbar lgoodbar@ispchannel.com ICQ#504581 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Apr 16 19: 0:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net [24.69.46.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A437637B422 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:00:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@tenzo.com) Received: from h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (localhost.gv.shawcable.net [127.0.0.1]) by h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3H23H121279; Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:03:21 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from michael@tenzo.com) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: "Michael O'Henly" Reply-To: michael@tenzo.com Organization: TENZO Design To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrading X from 3.3.6 to 4 Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2001 19:03:16 -0700 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: In-Reply-To: Cc: lgoodbar@ispchannel.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041619031601.21220@h24-69-46-74.gv.shawcable.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'm certainly no authority, but when I asked this question a few days ago I was told that installing over the earlier version is the procedure described on xfree.org. I tried first deinstalling 3.3.6 but wasn't able to do it cleanly. So I installed 4.0.3 over 3.3.6 and I've been using it since then with no problems (And I'm running KDE 2.1.1) Make sure you update your ports list if you want to get XFree86-4.0.3 and KDE 2.1.1. M. PS: I believe that questions like this should be posted on freebsd-questions and not on freebsd-newbies. On Monday 16 April 2001 18:46, Loyd Goodbar wrote: > Just installed 4.2 FreeBSD. I want to upgrade X from 3.3.6 to 4. What's the > easiest way to do this through the ports? Can I just install X4 over X336? > I don't want to uninstall X336, I have KDE2 and other stuff installed over > it.... Any hints, thanks! -- Michael O'Henly TENZO Design To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 17 12:42: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from shadow.alternex.com.br (smtp.alternex.com.br [200.190.165.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BB10237B43C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 12:42:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from caruaru@alternex.com.br) Received: (qmail 30872 invoked from network); 17 Apr 2001 19:41:56 -0000 Received: from cronopio.ibase.org.br (200.18.178.15) by smtp.alternex.com.br with SMTP; 17 Apr 2001 19:41:56 -0000 Received: from alternex.com.br (ax.alternex.com.br [200.18.178.1]) by cronopio.ibase.org.br (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA28228 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:40:19 -0300 (EST) Received: from alternex.com.br (rjo19-214.alternex.com.br [200.192.19.214]) by alternex.com.br (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA29587 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:40:16 -0300 (EST) Message-ID: <3ADC9B6A.3CEDF21E@alternex.com.br> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:37:15 -0300 From: Mario Alves X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; Linux 2.2.15-4mdk i586) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Genius Scanner Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does FreeBSD 4.2 support Genius Scanner Vivid Color III? Thanks, Mário To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 17 14: 8:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB4037B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:08:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.47.12]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAA2875 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:13:43 -0700 Message-ID: <3ADCB0C0.CB6F7F2F@acuson.com> Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:08:16 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Daemonnews Magazine Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Has anyone received any Daemonnews Magazines through the subscription yet? The only issue I have received was January, and I had to beg to get that one. Am I just unlucky, or is everyone else in the same boat? David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 17 14:11:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from freeze.org (www.stelesys.com [208.177.187.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45F1837B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:11:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jim@freeze.org) Received: (from jim@localhost) by freeze.org (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f3HLBMp29816; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:11:22 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jim) X-Authentication-Warning: www.stelesys.com: Processed from queue /var/spool/alt_queue X-Authentication-Warning: www.stelesys.com: Processed by jim with -C /web/siteinfo/freeze/mail/sendmail.cf Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 17:11:22 -0400 (EDT) From: Jim Freeze X-X-Sender: To: David Johnson Cc: Subject: Re: Daemonnews Magazine In-Reply-To: <3ADCB0C0.CB6F7F2F@acuson.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, David Johnson wrote: > Has anyone received any Daemonnews Magazines through the subscription > yet? The only issue I have received was January, and I had to beg to get > that one. > > Am I just unlucky, or is everyone else in the same boat? > I received two issues 10 days ago. The reason for receiving two issues is that I did not get the first issue for some reason. ========================================================= Jim Freeze jim@freeze.org --------------------------------------------------------- No comment at this time. http://www.freeze.org ========================================================= To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 17 14:53:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp02.off.interq.net (smtp02.off.interq.net [210.157.1.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F9E437B43C for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 14:53:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ecton@japan.interq.or.jp) Received: from japan.interq.or.jp (setsuzoku-ppp-210-253-112-137.interq.or.jp [210.253.112.137]) by smtp02.off.interq.net (8.9.3/8.9.1/matt89-pop) with ESMTP id GAA11703 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 06:53:12 +0900 (JST) Message-ID: <3ADCBCB1.1080202@japan.interq.or.jp> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 06:59:13 +0900 From: toshiaki ishii User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; ja-JP; m18) Gecko/20010131 Netscape6/6.01 X-Accept-Language: ja,en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org subscribe toshiaki ishii To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 17 16:48:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from ruby.he.net (ruby.he.net [216.218.187.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E93A037B423 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:48:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bill@wiliweld.com) Received: from corten8.billschoolcraft.com (adsl-63-193-247-201.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.193.247.201]) by ruby.he.net (8.8.6/8.8.2) with ESMTP id QAA19424; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:48:23 -0700 Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 16:43:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Bill Schoolcraft X-Sender: To: David Johnson Cc: Subject: Re: Daemonnews Magazine In-Reply-To: <3ADCB0C0.CB6F7F2F@acuson.com> Message-ID: System-ID: [en] (I; SunOS 5.8 i86pc) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At Tue, 17 Apr 2001 it looks like David Johnson composed: > Has anyone received any Daemonnews Magazines through the subscription > yet? The only issue I have received was January, and I had to beg to get > that one. > > Am I just unlucky, or is everyone else in the same boat? > > David Hmmm, I sent my check in dated 4/2/01 and my first issue arrived today. Now, I subscribed much earlier but got a confirmation and request for the payment on 4/2/01 and wrote the check then. If they wait till they get the check and THEN send you the magazine, that took only two me weeks. It's seems like a nice little magazine. For some reason I always look for (Sys-Admin Mag's) "QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS" and the book reviews. Something like Jim Dennis's "The Answer Guy" would be nice. -- |<----------------------------72_Characters--------------------------->| Bill Schoolcraft PO Box 210076 -o) San Francisco CA 94121 /\ "UNIX, A Way Of Life." _\_v http://forwardslashunix.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 17 20:15:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from vnode.vmunix.com (vnode.vmunix.com [209.112.4.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F231737B424 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 20:15:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chrisc@vmunix.com) Received: by vnode.vmunix.com (Postfix, from userid 1005) id 3DE4A11; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:15:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vnode.vmunix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29EAA49A13; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:15:41 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:15:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Coleman To: Greg Lehey Cc: core@daemonnews.org, newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [dn-core] Re: Daemonnews Magazine In-Reply-To: <20010418104926.G80877@wantadilla.lemis.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Has anyone received any Daemonnews Magazines through the subscription > > yet? The only issue I have received was January, and I had to beg to get > > that one. > > > > Am I just unlucky, or is everyone else in the same boat? The only problem at this point is the length of time it takes the US postal service to deliver bulk rate mail. International subscribers got thier magazines delivered first class, because they don't offer bulk rate, but it seems to take about the same amount of time. The January/February issue had real problems. The subscription list was messed up and the mailing house didn't report it to us, they sent the garbled subscriptions anyway. We had no way to tell who did or didn't receive the subscriptions, and finally we decided to mail everyone of our subscribers an extra copy of the January/Febuary issue with March/April issue. We also changed printers because we felt the quality of the January/February issue wasn't up to the standards required. We switched mailing houses at the same time and I am confident that everyone on the list will receive their magazine. I am encouraged that people are anxious to receive the magazines and you won't be disappointed. They are very high quality and only improving. However, I am a bit discouraged by the lack of subscribers. To be perfectly honest, we have 800 subscribers, nearly half of them are International. I can't see us keeping the print magazine alive if more people don't take an interest in it. $24.95 isn't that big a price to pay to have a BSD magazine. Daemon News has a total of four part time employees who handle the shipping and office duties, so we aren't getting rich off this. Everyone else is volunteer. The magazine is expensive to print and we have had to eat a lot of the cost. FreeBSD has a purported userbase of 2.5 million and 800 subscribers is what percentage of that? Add in NetBSD, OpenBSD, Darwin and BSD/OS. Its time to start advocating. We started DN to be the resource of the BSD community. We have put in three years worth, with little to no pay. Its time for the community to start supporting the magazine. So, get on IRC, e-mail your friends, drop by the user groups and tell everyone to subscribe to the magazine. If you want to try before you buy a subscription, we have single issues available on www.bsdmall.com. -Chris Coleman Daemon News http://www.daemonnews.org http://www.bsdmall.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 17 22:20:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from node0b2a.a2000.nl (node0b2a.a2000.nl [62.108.11.42]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 861CE37B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 22:20:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gareth@node0b2a.a2000.nl) Received: from localhost (gareth@localhost) by node0b2a.a2000.nl (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f3I5Mwx17842 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:22:59 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from gareth@node0b2a.a2000.nl) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:22:58 +0200 (CEST) From: Gareth Williams Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Daemonnews Magazine In-Reply-To: <3ADCB0C0.CB6F7F2F@acuson.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I got mine ok. In fact, the delivery was super quick, considering I live in Europe. On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, David Johnson wrote: > Has anyone received any Daemonnews Magazines through the subscription > yet? The only issue I have received was January, and I had to beg to get > that one. > > Am I just unlucky, or is everyone else in the same boat? > > David > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Apr 17 23:22:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE49837B422 for ; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:22:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3I6MIk37110; Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:22:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Chris Coleman" , "Greg Lehey" Cc: , Subject: RE: [dn-core] Re: Daemonnews Magazine Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 23:22:17 -0700 Message-ID: <006501c0c7cf$ead41860$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Chris Coleman >I am encouraged that people are anxious to receive the magazines and you >won't be disappointed. They are very high quality and only improving. > >However, I am a bit discouraged by the lack of subscribers. To be >perfectly honest, we have 800 subscribers, nearly half of them are >International. I can't see us keeping the print magazine alive if more >people don't take an interest in it. $24.95 isn't that big a price to pay >to have a BSD magazine. Daemon News has a total of four part time >employees who handle the shipping and office duties, so we aren't getting >rich off this. Everyone else is volunteer. The magazine is expensive to >print and we have had to eat a lot of the cost. > Hi Chris, Be patient, patient, patient! I write a regular column for a computer magazine that's local to my hometown and they have been in operation for ten years now and are still mainly being distributed for free. I think your doing pretty good if you have 800 subscribers after only a few issues being printed, I think it's going to take you 2 years before you really get going in terms of subscriptions, hang in there buddy! >FreeBSD has a purported userbase of 2.5 million and 800 subscribers is >what percentage of that? Add in NetBSD, OpenBSD, Darwin and BSD/OS. > Don't forget that the majority of those users obtain copies of FreeBSD for merely the cost of their ISP connection via FTP over the Internet. How many are regular subscribers to Walnut Creek? That's the userbase stats you should care about - since those are folks that value FreeBSD enough to part with some money for it. >Its time to start advocating. > I'd suggest looking again at the Daemonnews homepage. Believe it or not, when I first saw in the mailing list that you guys were doing a print magazine I went to the website, looking to sign up, and search as I might I couldn't see a scrap of HTML that referred to it. I checked again, once or twice, over the following months and still didn't see anything so I figured "Oh, another bogus rumor" and forgot about it. I was very surprised to get a promo copy of the magazine a couple weeks ago for a magazine I didn't think existed! :-) (I'm even more surprised and a little disappointed that it's issue 3 since I'd like to get a copy of issue 2) Anyway, even today looking at http://www.daemonnews.org there is no menu link to the hardcopy of the magazine at the top menu. There is a sidebar - but you have to click on it to get to the mag, and there's no text in the sidebar saying that it's a magazine. I'd suggest that right next to the "Get BSD" red menu item, you have a "Daemon News Magazine" red menu item. Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 18 0:33:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from vnode.vmunix.com (vnode.vmunix.com [209.112.4.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE47937B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 00:33:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chrisc@vmunix.com) Received: by vnode.vmunix.com (Postfix, from userid 1005) id 3DB1E11; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:33:32 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by vnode.vmunix.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3536149A13; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:33:32 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 03:33:32 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Coleman To: Ted Mittelstaedt Cc: Greg Lehey , core@daemonnews.org, newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: [dn-core] Re: Daemonnews Magazine In-Reply-To: <006501c0c7cf$ead41860$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If you look at the main web page, there is now a link to http://magazine.daemonnews.org. I have added an Advocacy Pack, its only 12 issues and they have to pay postage, but its a start. Thanks for the ideas. Chris Coleman Daemon News http://www.daemonnews.org Bringing BSD together On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >-----Original Message----- > >From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG > >[mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Chris Coleman > > >I am encouraged that people are anxious to receive the magazines and you > >won't be disappointed. They are very high quality and only improving. > > > >However, I am a bit discouraged by the lack of subscribers. To be > >perfectly honest, we have 800 subscribers, nearly half of them are > >International. I can't see us keeping the print magazine alive if more > >people don't take an interest in it. $24.95 isn't that big a price to pay > >to have a BSD magazine. Daemon News has a total of four part time > >employees who handle the shipping and office duties, so we aren't getting > >rich off this. Everyone else is volunteer. The magazine is expensive to > >print and we have had to eat a lot of the cost. > > > > Hi Chris, > > Be patient, patient, patient! I write a regular column for a computer > magazine that's local to my hometown and they have been in operation for > ten years now and are still mainly being distributed for free. I think your > doing pretty good if you have 800 subscribers after only a few issues being > printed, I think it's going to take you 2 years before you really get going > in terms of subscriptions, hang in there buddy! > > >FreeBSD has a purported userbase of 2.5 million and 800 subscribers is > >what percentage of that? Add in NetBSD, OpenBSD, Darwin and BSD/OS. > > > > Don't forget that the majority of those users obtain copies of FreeBSD for > merely the cost of their ISP connection via FTP over the Internet. How > many are regular subscribers to Walnut Creek? That's the userbase stats > you should care about - since those are folks that value FreeBSD enough to > part with some money for it. > > >Its time to start advocating. > > > > I'd suggest looking again at the Daemonnews homepage. Believe it or not, > when > I first saw in the mailing list that you guys were doing a print magazine I > went to the website, looking to sign up, and search as I might I couldn't > see a scrap of HTML that referred to it. I checked again, once or twice, > over the following months and still didn't see anything so I figured "Oh, > another > bogus rumor" and forgot about it. > > I was very surprised to get a promo copy of the magazine a couple weeks ago > for a magazine I didn't think existed! :-) (I'm even more surprised and a > little > disappointed that it's issue 3 since I'd like to get a copy of issue 2) > > Anyway, even today looking at http://www.daemonnews.org there is no menu > link to > the hardcopy of the magazine at the top menu. There is a sidebar - but you > have to > click on it to get to the mag, and there's no text in the sidebar saying > that it's > a magazine. I'd suggest that right next to the "Get BSD" red menu item, you > have a > "Daemon News Magazine" red menu item. > > > Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com > Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide > Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 18 1:16:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.169.15]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D161037B424 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:16:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from tedm.placo.com (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [206.29.168.154]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f3I8Fxk37404; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:16:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Chris Coleman" Cc: "Greg Lehey" , , Subject: RE: [dn-core] Re: Daemonnews Magazine Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 01:15:58 -0700 Message-ID: <006f01c0c7df$cc6b6a80$1401a8c0@tedm.placo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 8.5, Build 4.71.2173.0 In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org That's great - I'm glad you found some value in my ideas! It's the least I could do after running a review of my book. I guess I'll be doing the next least thing, and you will be increasing your subscriber count to 801. ;-) Ted PS: on magazine.daemonnews.org you have "subscription deadline for receiving issue #3 is March 13" which is nearly a month back now. >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Chris Coleman >Sent: Wednesday, April 18, 2001 12:34 AM >To: Ted Mittelstaedt >Cc: Greg Lehey; core@daemonnews.org; newbies@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: RE: [dn-core] Re: Daemonnews Magazine > > >If you look at the main web page, there is now a link to >http://magazine.daemonnews.org. > >I have added an Advocacy Pack, its only 12 issues and they have to pay >postage, but its a start. > >Thanks for the ideas. > >Chris Coleman >Daemon News >http://www.daemonnews.org >Bringing BSD together > >On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, Ted Mittelstaedt wrote: > >> >-----Original Message----- >> >From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG >> >[mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Chris Coleman >> >> >I am encouraged that people are anxious to receive the magazines and you >> >won't be disappointed. They are very high quality and only improving. >> > >> >However, I am a bit discouraged by the lack of subscribers. To be >> >perfectly honest, we have 800 subscribers, nearly half of them are >> >International. I can't see us keeping the print magazine alive if more >> >people don't take an interest in it. $24.95 isn't that big a >price to pay >> >to have a BSD magazine. Daemon News has a total of four part time >> >employees who handle the shipping and office duties, so we >aren't getting >> >rich off this. Everyone else is volunteer. The magazine is >expensive to >> >print and we have had to eat a lot of the cost. >> > >> >> Hi Chris, >> >> Be patient, patient, patient! I write a regular column for a computer >> magazine that's local to my hometown and they have been in operation for >> ten years now and are still mainly being distributed for free. >I think your >> doing pretty good if you have 800 subscribers after only a few >issues being >> printed, I think it's going to take you 2 years before you >really get going >> in terms of subscriptions, hang in there buddy! >> >> >FreeBSD has a purported userbase of 2.5 million and 800 subscribers is >> >what percentage of that? Add in NetBSD, OpenBSD, Darwin and BSD/OS. >> > >> >> Don't forget that the majority of those users obtain copies of >FreeBSD for >> merely the cost of their ISP connection via FTP over the Internet. How >> many are regular subscribers to Walnut Creek? That's the userbase stats >> you should care about - since those are folks that value FreeBSD >enough to >> part with some money for it. >> >> >Its time to start advocating. >> > >> >> I'd suggest looking again at the Daemonnews homepage. Believe it or not, >> when >> I first saw in the mailing list that you guys were doing a print >magazine I >> went to the website, looking to sign up, and search as I might I couldn't >> see a scrap of HTML that referred to it. I checked again, once or twice, >> over the following months and still didn't see anything so I figured "Oh, >> another >> bogus rumor" and forgot about it. >> >> I was very surprised to get a promo copy of the magazine a >couple weeks ago >> for a magazine I didn't think existed! :-) (I'm even more >surprised and a >> little >> disappointed that it's issue 3 since I'd like to get a copy of issue 2) >> >> Anyway, even today looking at http://www.daemonnews.org there is no menu >> link to >> the hardcopy of the magazine at the top menu. There is a >sidebar - but you >> have to >> click on it to get to the mag, and there's no text in the sidebar saying >> that it's >> a magazine. I'd suggest that right next to the "Get BSD" red >menu item, you >> have a >> "Daemon News Magazine" red menu item. >> >> >> Ted Mittelstaedt tedm@toybox.placo.com >> Author of: The FreeBSD Corporate Networker's Guide >> Book website: http://www.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com >> >> >> > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 18 5:29:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtppop1pub.verizon.net (smtppop1pub.gte.net [206.46.170.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A43837B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 05:29:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from oljeep.collins@gte.net) Received: from gte.net (tamqfl1-ar1-200-227.biz.dsl.gtei.net [4.35.200.227]) by smtppop1pub.verizon.net with ESMTP ; id HAA93122044 Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:22:12 -0500 (CDT) Message-ID: <3ADD88C4.EC7F64D0@gte.net> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 08:29:56 -0400 From: Tom Collins X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en]C-AOL (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Coleman Cc: Ted Mittelstaedt , Greg Lehey , core@daemonnews.org, newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [dn-core] Re: Daemonnews Magazine References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for adding the "Advocay Pack" Chris. I just ordered 1 to hand out at the Tampa Bay users group we're trying to get going. Tom Collins, Tampa Chris Coleman wrote: > If you look at the main web page, there is now a link to > http://magazine.daemonnews.org. > > I have added an Advocacy Pack, its only 12 issues and they have to pay > postage, but its a start. > > Thanks for the ideas. > > Chris Coleman > Daemon News > http://www.daemonnews.org > Bringing BSD together To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 18 7:11:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from www.microelectronics.com (www.microelectronics.com [4.18.26.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A042237B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:11:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abush@microcenter.com) Received: from zul.microcenter.com (zul.microcenter.com [4.18.26.10]) by www.microelectronics.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id KAA04258 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:11:24 -0400 Received: from sysadm.microcenter.com by zul.microcenter.com via smtpd (for www.microelectronics.com [4.18.26.20]) with SMTP; 18 Apr 2001 14:09:02 UT Received: from mail.microcenter.com (anbhpc.microcenter.com [10.10.29.94]) by sysadm.microcenter.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA17692 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 10:11:11 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3ADD94B4.A97088C1@mail.microcenter.com> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 09:20:52 -0400 From: Aaron Bush X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: no /usr/ports/ directory? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What is the correct way to install the ports app? I currently have no /usr/ports/ directory on my system and would like to use some of the ports packages. Thanks, -ab To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 18 7:13:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.resfeber.se (Resfeber-gw.customer.internet5.net [195.66.48.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CE6937B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 07:13:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jon.molin@resfeber.se) Received: from resfeber.se ([212.75.72.9]) by mail2.resfeber.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA03161; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:04:41 +0200 Message-ID: <3ADDA19B.C6AB6CC3@resfeber.se> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:15:55 +0200 From: Jon Molin X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aaron Bush Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: no /usr/ports/ directory? References: <3ADD94B4.A97088C1@mail.microcenter.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org If you have the cd, go into the ports directory and run the install shellscript, otherwise goto http://www.freebsd.org/ports/ Aaron Bush wrote: > > What is the correct way to install the ports app? > > I currently have no /usr/ports/ directory on my system and would like to > use some of the ports packages. > > Thanks, > -ab > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 18 11: 4:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from tango.SoftHome.net (tango.SoftHome.net [204.144.231.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 132AD37B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:04:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from stephen_chung@softhome.net) Received: (qmail 27714 invoked by uid 417); 18 Apr 2001 17:43:18 -0000 Received: from mcns77.docsis114.singa.pore.net (HELO draycott) (202.156.114.77) by i-softhome-tango with SMTP; 18 Apr 2001 17:43:18 -0000 Message-ID: <014b01c0c833$2207d5c0$b37ba8c0@draycott> From: "Stephen Chung" To: References: <004d01c0c02c$32db49e0$fe00a8c0@kat.lan> <01b201c0c02d$73bb7420$0200a8c0@apana.org.au> Subject: Re: MIKE Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 02:12:19 +0800 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Help.. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 18 11: 7:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from filer.fr.clara.net (filer.fr.clara.net [212.43.194.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0123237B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:07:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from james@fr.clara.net) Received: from munster.noc.fr.clara.net (munster.noc.fr.clara.net [212.43.195.20]) by filer.fr.clara.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9BDE531D1 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:07:48 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:07:48 +0200 (CEST) From: James Tapping X-Sender: james@munster.noc.fr.clara.net To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: cvsup and upgrading apache Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello I want to upgrade apache using the ports to 1.3.19, I have done a CVSUP and this is the version that is shown. I did a make deinstall then tried to do a make install and I get the error... su-2.04# make install ===> Installing for apache-1.3.19_1 cd: can't cd to /usr/ports/www/apache13/work/apache_1.3.19 error etc... There is as the error says only a /usr/ports/www/apache13/work/apache_1.3.14 and not a 19 Any ideas how to get the .19 to install? Thanks James To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 18 11:20:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.pandora.be (hercules.telenet-ops.be [195.130.132.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7F08137B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 11:20:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dan@electriccheese.com) Received: (qmail 23213 invoked from network); 18 Apr 2001 18:20:41 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wolverine.pandora.be) ([213.224.135.247]) (envelope-sender ) by hercules.telenet-ops.be (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 18 Apr 2001 18:20:41 -0000 From: Dan Look To: Gareth Williams Subject: Re: Daemonnews Magazine Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 20:22:28 +0200 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01041820233803.00402@wolverine.pandora.be> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Gareth, Can I ask when you got your second issue, I'm in Belgium and still waiting for mine :( Thanks Dan On Wed, 18 Apr 2001, Gareth Williams wrote: > I got mine ok. In fact, the delivery was super quick, considering I live > in Europe. > > > On Tue, 17 Apr 2001, David Johnson wrote: > > > Has anyone received any Daemonnews Magazines through the subscription > > yet? The only issue I have received was January, and I had to beg to get > > that one. > > > > Am I just unlucky, or is everyone else in the same boat? > > > > David > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 18 13:13:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from www.microelectronics.com (www.microelectronics.com [4.18.26.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C451137B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:13:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from abush@microcenter.com) Received: from zul.microcenter.com (zul.microcenter.com [4.18.26.10]) by www.microelectronics.com (Pro-8.9.3/Pro-8.9.3) with SMTP id QAA00743 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:14:05 -0400 Received: from sysadm.microcenter.com by zul.microcenter.com via smtpd (for www.microelectronics.com [4.18.26.20]) with SMTP; 18 Apr 2001 20:11:40 UT Received: from mail.microcenter.com (anbhpc.microcenter.com [10.10.29.94]) by sysadm.microcenter.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id QAA05958 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 16:13:48 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3ADDE9B3.1DC04ECB@mail.microcenter.com> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:23:31 -0400 From: Aaron Bush X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.16-3 i686) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: how to customize ports? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am looking for the correct/propper way to customize a port (ie. change prefix path, etc.). Right now i have been doing something like this: ==== 1) extracting the "ports/group/prog/" directory from the entire ports tar file into /usr/ 2) downloading the port source to /usr/ports/distfiles/ 3) cd /usr/ports/group/prog/ 4) setenv NO_DEPENDS; make distfile; make patch 5) view Makefile and make note of any special configure arguments. 6) cd work/program-ver/; run ./configure replacing how/where I need the program to be compiled and I have been leaving in any special configure args that were set in the previous Makefile. 7) Then running make or gmake (mostly gmake). 8) cd ../../ (back to /usr/ports/group/prog/); make install * I'm not sure that the last step is correct, will this break anything? What i really am interested in is using the preferred compile arguments and overriding items such as install location and extra modules (Apache and PHP4 mostly). Thanks, -ab To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 18 13:24:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from odin.acuson.com (odin.acuson.com [157.226.230.71]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB4637B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:24:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from djohnson@acuson.com) Received: from acuson.com ([157.226.47.12]) by odin.acuson.com (Netscape Messaging Server 3.54) with ESMTP id AAAD66; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:29:56 -0700 Message-ID: <3ADDF7F9.53C9472C@acuson.com> Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 13:24:25 -0700 From: David Johnson Organization: Acuson X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Aaron Bush Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: how to customize ports? References: <3ADDE9B3.1DC04ECB@mail.microcenter.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Aaron Bush wrote: > > I am looking for the correct/propper way to customize a port (ie. change > prefix path, etc.). Wow! What a lot of work you are putting yourself through! Go read the FAQ and the relevant sections. There's a lot of information there. Basically, to change the default prefix, I do "PREFIX=/usr/foo make install". This is just one example. For more involved "customizations", you can build in stages (make fetch, make extract, make configure, etc). I've also changed the port's Makefile to send it my configure arguments. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 18 15: 9:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from omta04.mta.everyone.net (sitemail.everyone.net [216.200.145.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C787537B423 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:09:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@sysmach.com) Received: from sitemail.everyone.net (reports [216.200.145.62]) by omta04.mta.everyone.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C873C4FE92 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:07:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by sitemail.everyone.net (Postfix, from userid 99) id B7AFB274E; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:07:31 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: MIME-tools 4.104 (Entity 4.117) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:07:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Kyle To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: dns and bind by o`reilly Reply-To: freebsd@sysmach.com X-Originating-Ip: [204.196.183.67] Message-Id: <20010418220731.B7AFB274E@sitemail.everyone.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone have this book? i bought a copy of the second edition and i wonder if there is any significant difference between the second and the third edition. I'm subscribed to questions@freebsd.org, not sure if i will get the reply from here. Please cc to me anyway. Thanks! == _____________________________________________ /"\ ASCII Ribbon campaign against E-Mail \ / in gratuitous HTML and Microsoft X proprietary formats. / \ _____________________________________________________________ Systems at MACHSPEED!! http://sysmach.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Apr 18 15:14:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from q.closedsrc.org (ip233.gte15.rb1.bel.nwlink.com [209.20.244.233]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DE4A37B422 for ; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:14:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lplist@closedsrc.org) Received: by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id B075055407; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by q.closedsrc.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EE2151610; Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:09:25 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 15:09:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Linh Pham To: Kyle Cc: Subject: Re: dns and bind by o`reilly In-Reply-To: <20010418220731.B7AFB274E@sitemail.everyone.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2001-04-18, Kyle scribbled: # Does anyone have this book? i bought a copy of the second edition and # i wonder if there is any significant difference between the second and # the third edition. I'm subscribed to questions@freebsd.org, not sure # if i will get the reply from here. Please cc to me anyway. Thanks! I think the main difference is that it's updated for (then) a newer version of BIND and probably added some stuff. The Fourth edition will be coming out later (Summer I think) and I would wait to get that one instead. If you're wondering... 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It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Apr 21 21:18: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from web13702.mail.yahoo.com (web13702.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ACAD637B43C for ; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:18:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd_stuff@yahoo.com) Message-ID: <20010422041801.82366.qmail@web13702.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [64.111.2.246] by web13702.mail.yahoo.com; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:18:01 PDT Date: Sat, 21 Apr 2001 21:18:01 -0700 (PDT) From: - - Subject: Can't start X To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi all, I just downloaded and installed "XFree86 4.0.2 Released". Here is what I did... 1) Downloaded the following files: Xinstall.sh, extract, Xdoc.tgz, Xfenc.tgz, Xlib.tgz, mod.tgz, Xxserv.tgz, Xbin.tgz, Xetc.tgz, Xfnts.tgz, Xman.tgz, and Xvar.tgz 2) installed using the below command: #sh ./Xinstall.sh 3) then, I ran xf86configurator. 4) startx After running 'startx', a while later, it comes back to the console with the following errors: ... /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt.so" not found /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt.so" not found /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt.so" not found /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt.so" not found /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt.so" not found /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt.so" not found /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt.so" not found /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1: Shared object "libqt.so" not found How can I fix this problem? Can I just get the file from another FreeBSD box and place it in the right directory? Any comments or ideas would be greatly appreciated! TIA, kero __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices http://auctions.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Apr 21 23: 8: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from baku.host4u.net (baku.host4u.net [216.71.64.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B6C37B422; Sat, 21 Apr 2001 23:07:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsddiary@baku.host4u.net) Received: (from freebsddiary@localhost) by baku.host4u.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA09128; Sun, 22 Apr 2001 01:07:01 -0500 Date: Sun, 22 Apr 2001 01:07:01 -0500 Message-Id: <200104220607.BAA09128@baku.host4u.net> From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2001-04-01 - 2001-04-21 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly with the aim of increasing awareness of what's available on the on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . These are the articles posted during this period: 18-Apr : latest changes ready for testing your chance to test drive the new web server http://freebsddiary.org/changes20010418.html?2 16-Apr : Massive website changes php is the place we wanna go http://freebsddiary.org/changes20010416.html?2 7-Apr : Using smtp from remote locations Get access to your smtp via an ssh tunnel http://freebsddiary.org/smtp-remote.html?2 6-Apr : My travels with a computer packing, flying, selecting an ISP http://freebsddiary.org/travels.html?2 2-Apr : It's all true! Yes, part of yesterday's article was true... http://freebsddiary.org/alltrue.html?2 1-Apr : The Linux Diary What's going on here? http://freebsddiary.org/thelinuxdiary.html?2 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://freebsddiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://freshports.org/ - the place for ports To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message