From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 2: 2:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7976B37B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 02:02:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5849E66B09; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 02:02:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 02:02:09 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: HEADS UP: lots of updates Message-ID: <20010304020209.A29788@mollari.cthul.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline There have been quite a few merges to -stable tonight -- I tried to test everything before committing, but there's still a chance something was broken. Keep an eye out for reports of build failures before updating. The big news is the new CPUTYPE code (described in /etc/defaults/make.conf), which is a hook for describing the CPU type you want to optimize the build for (pentium, pentium pro, alpha EV6, ...). The makefile logic will add the correct gcc compiler flags to produce CPU-optimized code, and this also causes any available assembler code for that CPU to be enabled. Currently this is only used by OpenSSL, which now builds asm code on the i386 by default (all CPUs - though the code generated for a 386 or 486 has not been tested). This gives substantial performance increases :-) This will also be used to enable asm optimizations in ports, instead of the various ad-hoc methods currently used. To start using this, I think you'll need to do two make worlds, because the CPUTYPE stuff won't be picked up on the first pass. If you're feeling adventurous, rebuild and reinstall make in /usr/src/usr.bin/make, and make install in /usr/src/share/mk, then add the appropriate CPUTYPE value (see /usr/src/etc/defaults/make.conf) to your environment or /etc/make.conf, and it should work on the first pass. Kris --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6ohKhWry0BWjoQKURArreAKCdXsQ60Rq1xsHJLNudIbjHtN+3+ACggVCN bApX+wZRQHGzF4d5Qip8A2c= =7JDN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --6c2NcOVqGQ03X4Wi-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 2:19:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.jazz-sax.com (adsl-64-163-65-116.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.163.65.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8A4437B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 02:19:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ericdano@jazz-sax.com) Received: from jazz-sax.com (adsl-64-163-65-114.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.163.65.114]) by freebsd.jazz-sax.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f24AKRZ01553 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 02:20:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ericdano@jazz-sax.com) Message-ID: <3AA216EB.CD38FCEF@jazz-sax.com> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 02:20:27 -0800 From: Eric Dannewitz Reply-To: ericdano@jazz-sax.com Organization: Jazz-Sax X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Perl Problems References: <20010304020209.A29788@mollari.cthul.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The latest build of 4.2 Stable seems to have TOTALLY messed up Perl for me. I can't get Perl to work. My Slashdot type site won't start. All I did was CVSUP stable (like in the examples folder), and did a make buildworld, then a make installworld. I've done this quite regularly and this is the FIRST time I've had problems.......... Anyone have any ideas on what happened? I'm considering restoring off a backup cause I've spent about 2 hours now screwing with Perl and it's not going anywhere........... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 2:26:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.jazz-sax.com (adsl-64-163-65-116.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.163.65.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7B5737B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 02:26:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ericdano@jazz-sax.com) Received: from jazz-sax.com (adsl-64-163-65-114.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.163.65.114]) by freebsd.jazz-sax.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f24ARMZ02640 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 02:27:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ericdano@jazz-sax.com) Message-ID: <3AA2188A.BCDEEF14@jazz-sax.com> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 02:27:22 -0800 From: Eric Dannewitz Reply-To: ericdano@jazz-sax.com Organization: Jazz-Sax X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: And Apache Problems References: <20010304020209.A29788@mollari.cthul.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In addition to the Perl problems, Apache won't start now either. I'm getting a /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 "PL_stack_max" undefined error. Perhaps the two are related? Using the latest stable build..........and it's not happy :-( To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 3:22:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B54737B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 03:22:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AD77E66B09; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 03:22:26 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 03:22:26 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Eric Dannewitz Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Perl Problems Message-ID: <20010304032226.A31150@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <20010304020209.A29788@mollari.cthul.hu> <3AA216EB.CD38FCEF@jazz-sax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AA216EB.CD38FCEF@jazz-sax.com>; from ericdano@jazz-sax.com on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 02:20:27AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 02:20:27AM -0800, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > The latest build of 4.2 Stable seems to have TOTALLY messed up Perl for m= e. I > can't get Perl to work. My Slashdot type site won't start. >=20 > All I did was CVSUP stable (like in the examples folder), and did a make > buildworld, then a make installworld. I've done this quite regularly and = this > is the FIRST time I've had problems.......... >=20 > Anyone have any ideas on what happened? I'm considering restoring off a b= ackup > cause I've spent about 2 hours now screwing with Perl and it's not going > anywhere........... "It's not working" isn't a valid failure report. Give details, as many as you can. Kris --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6oiVyWry0BWjoQKURArPhAJ9KCHazaeTg2gzByC/G24heDRcQQACg8N0E OnuHt3NiyXVpxaol0vxZfR8= =+aJ7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cNdxnHkX5QqsyA0e-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 3:29:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from subnet.sub.net (subnet.sub.net [212.227.14.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58BDA37B71A for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 03:29:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wolfgang@lyxys.ka.sub.org) Received: from lyxys.ka.sub.org (uucp@localhost) by subnet.sub.net (8.8.8/8.8.8/1.2subnet-linux) with bsmtp id MAA21560; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:29:19 +0100 Received: from localhost (1009 bytes) by lyxys.ka.sub.org via sendmail with P:stdio/R:smart_host/T:inet_uusmtp (sender: ) (ident using unix) id for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:24:18 +0100 (CET) (Smail-3.2.0.111 2000-Feb-17 #1 built 2000-Aug-23) Message-Id: From: wolfgang@lyxys.ka.sub.org (Wolfgang Zenker) Subject: Re: Perl Problems In-Reply-To: <3AA216EB.CD38FCEF@jazz-sax.com> "from Eric Dannewitz at Mar 4, 2001 02:20:27 am" To: ericdano@jazz-sax.com Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:24:18 +0100 (CET) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL88 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, > The latest build of 4.2 Stable seems to have TOTALLY messed up Perl for me. I > can't get Perl to work. My Slashdot type site won't start. > All I did was CVSUP stable (like in the examples folder), and did a make > buildworld, then a make installworld. I've done this quite regularly and this > is the FIRST time I've had problems.......... Did you just forget to mention make buildkernel and make installkernel or did you really just upgrade the world without upgrading your kernel? If the latter, thats probably the cause of your problems. Wolfgang To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 3:37:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nebula.cybercable.fr (d217.dhcp212-126.cybercable.fr [212.198.126.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6960F37B719 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 03:37:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mux@qualys.com) Received: (from mux@localhost) by nebula.cybercable.fr (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f24BZRe00593 for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:35:27 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mux) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:35:26 +0100 From: Maxime Henrion To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: netstat problem Message-ID: <20010304123526.A348@nebula.cybercable.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, Here is an output of sockstat -4, running 4.2-STABLE with a new kernel from this morning : USER COMMAND PID FD PROTO LOCAL ADDRESS FOREIGN ADDRESS root XFree86 325 1 ? ? ? nobody httpd 311 16 ? ? ? nobody httpd 310 16 ? ? ? root healthd 296 6 ? ? ? root httpd 288 16 ? ? ? root sshd 230 4 ? ? ? root sendmail 226 4 ? ? ? root sendmail 226 5 ? ? ? root lpd 223 6 ? ? ? [...] The only thing that I changed for this kernel is that I replaced -march=pentium with -march=k6 in the CFLAGS. I didn't know that k6 was a valid cpu type for gcc and discovered this with the CPUTYPE introduction of kris. I don't think it comes from here though because I've seen someone having a similar problem on the mailing list. It seems netstat is broken. It fails to correctly display TCP statistics. However, it prints UDP correctly. I didn't rebuild world, only the kernel, but I rebuilt netstat too to be sure it wasn't a kernel/userland sync problem even if /usr/src/UPDATING says nothing about this. Maxime -- Don't be fooled by cheap finnish imitations ; BSD is the One True Code Key fingerprint = F9B6 1D5A 4963 331C 88FC CA6A AB50 1EF2 8CBE 99D6 Public Key : http://www.epita.fr/~henrio_m/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 3:47:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mother.ludd.luth.se (mother.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AEC7937B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 03:47:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pantzer@ludd.luth.se) Received: from speedy.ludd.luth.se (speedy.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.164]) by mother.ludd.luth.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA03917; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:47:12 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200103041147.MAA03917@mother.ludd.luth.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Tom Cc: Martti Kuparinen , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: major resolver problems in -STABLE In-Reply-To: Message from Tom of "Tue, 27 Feb 2001 09:11:55 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 12:46:58 +0100 From: Mattias Pantzare Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Martti Kuparinen wrote: > = > > On Tue, 27 Feb 2001, Martti Kuparinen wrote: > > = > > > I upgraded today our 4.2-STABLE server and now we have major diffic= ulties > > > with DNS. For example, when I try to start the web server I see thi= s in > > > the logs: > > > = > > > [Tue Feb 27 11:13:40 2001] [alert] mod_unique_id: unable to gethost= byname("ws2") > = > Why isn't your hostname a FQDN? "hostname" should return the FQDN of= > your machine. No, that is simply not true. hostname is _not_ related to DNS. DNS names = IP adresses, an IP adress names a interface, not a host. You can set hostname to whatever you think looks nice. If you have applications that depend on hostname beeing a FQDN then they = are = broken. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 6:48:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.jazz-sax.com (adsl-64-163-65-116.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.163.65.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E9A637B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 06:48:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ericdano@jazz-sax.com) Received: from jazz-sax.com (adsl-64-163-65-114.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.163.65.114]) by freebsd.jazz-sax.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f24EnFl01007 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 06:49:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ericdano@jazz-sax.com) Message-ID: <3AA255EB.3110C7E0@jazz-sax.com> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 06:49:15 -0800 From: Eric Dannewitz Reply-To: ericdano@jazz-sax.com Organization: Jazz-Sax X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: And Apache Problems References: <20010304020209.A29788@mollari.cthul.hu> <3AA2188A.BCDEEF14@jazz-sax.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG procedure that I did. make buildworld shutdown now mount -u / mount -a -t ufs swapon -a cd /usr/src make installworld Then I also upgrade the kernel as suggested on the online freebsd.org. I've updated my system regularly since January. Problem seems to be that Apache and Perl are not happy with something in the latest Stable. Apache 1.3.12 would not start, giving me an error "/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 undefined pl_stack_max". And with perl, all the modules and bundles seem to have gotten screwed up. I could not get perl -MCPAN -e shell then install Bundle::CPAN to work at all. It would error out in various places, citing that MD5 was missing. That was never a problem before. I restored from a backup I made last weekend of my 4.2 stable system, and everything is working fine now, including Apache and Perl. I can and just did install the latest CPAN Bundle. So, whatever happened seems gone now. I'm a little leery about stable now. I was having no problems updating my server every weekend with CVSUP and then doing make buildworld, etc...... Wolfgang Zenker wrote: > Hello, > > > The latest build of 4.2 Stable seems to have TOTALLY messed up Perl for me. I > > can't get Perl to work. My Slashdot type site won't start. > > > All I did was CVSUP stable (like in the examples folder), and did a make > > buildworld, then a make installworld. I've done this quite regularly and this > > is the FIRST time I've had problems.......... > > Did you just forget to mention make buildkernel and make installkernel or > did you really just upgrade the world without upgrading your kernel? > If the latter, thats probably the cause of your problems. > > Wolfgang To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 7:25:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.ZSEA.zp.ua (ZSEA.zp.ua [212.8.40.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB2937B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:25:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from laa@laa.zp.ua) Received: (from laa@localhost) by mx1.ZSEA.zp.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f24FOuQ56474 for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:24:56 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from laa@laa.zp.ua) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:24:56 +0200 From: "Alexandr A. Listopad" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: failed to buildworld... (make: don't know how to make build-tools. Stop) Message-ID: <20010304172456.B10906@laa.zp.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>> stage 2: build tools -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj INSTALL="sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh" PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/s rc/i386/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin make -f Makefile.inc1 build-tool s cd /usr/src/bin/csh; make build-tools make: don't know how to make build-tools. Stop *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error -- Laa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 7:27:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AE6237B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:27:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id HAA07023; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:26:07 -0800 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda07021; Sun Mar 4 07:26:01 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f24FPth73391; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:25:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdr73389; Sun Mar 4 07:25:11 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f24FP9p07304; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:25:09 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103041525.f24FP9p07304@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdsj7297; Sun Mar 4 07:24:24 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: Mike Tancsa Cc: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams), Don Lewis , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: more strange problem with broken pipes and ssh In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 04 Mar 2001 00:41:18 EST." <4.2.2.20010304003949.01cfdf40@marble.sentex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 07:24:24 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <4.2.2.20010304003949.01cfdf40@marble.sentex.net>, Mike Tancsa write s: > At 09:31 PM 3/3/2001 -0800, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > >In message <15009.52817.869675.390701@nomad.yogotech.com>, Nate > >Williams writes > >: > > > > > >I wonder if this problem might be shell dependent. Maybe some shell > s > > > > > >reset SIGPIPE to SIG_DFL and some don't modify whatever they inherit > . > > > > > >I'm seeing the problem with csh. What shells are everyone else > > running? > > > > > > > > > > /bin/tcsh > > > > > /bin/sh > > > > > /bin/csh > > > > > > > > > > give me the same results. What about the grep | less example ? Can > > you > > > > > reproduce that ? > > > > > > > > > > with bash, the result is a little different. On the maillog > > example, I on > > > ly > > > > > get one "broken pipe" at the end. > > > > > > > > I've tried it with bash, sh, and tcsh. I can't seem to get a SIGPIPE. > > > > > > I am certainly getting the error with stock csh (really tcsh). > > > >I don't think it's the shell. To verify my results try changing your > >login shells (e.g. vipw, log out, log in, test, vipw, log out, ...) > >just like I did. All this guessing will get us nowhere until more > >actual testing is done. > > > >Could it be an sshd config option? > > > The last time this came up a month ago, you mentioned your environment > being a bit different with Kerberos. Perhaps with kerberos enabled, this > problem is not there ? Kerberos has not been built into the base FreeBSD of any FreeBSD system I manage (at home or work), so OpenSSH does not have any of its Kerberos bits turned on (as verified by ldd). MIT Kerberos has been installed from ports (this matches what Open Systems has on the approximately 150 hosts we manage of which FreeBSD is only 5 of the 150) it will not enable Kerberos in the base OpenSSH unless Heimdal Kerberos has been enabled in the base system. As I'm going to get flamed for not using Heimdal Kerberos and using MIT Kerberos, it on my long list of things to do (investigate first), and it's not near the top of the list either. Back to the SSH topic at hand: Kerberos is not a factor in OpenSSH on the systems I tested. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 7:45:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.ZSEA.zp.ua (ZSEA.zp.ua [212.8.40.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A85637B719; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:45:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from laa@laa.zp.ua) Received: (from laa@localhost) by mx1.ZSEA.zp.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f24FilM56758; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:44:47 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from laa@laa.zp.ua) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:44:47 +0200 From: "Alexandr A. Listopad" To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: failed to buildworld... (make: don't know how to make build-tools. Stop) Message-ID: <20010304174447.C10906@laa.zp.ua> References: <20010304172456.B10906@laa.zp.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20010304172456.B10906@laa.zp.ua>; from laa@laa.zp.ua on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 05:24:56PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 05:24:56PM +0200, Alexandr A. Listopad wrote: > >>> stage 2: build tools > -------------------------------------------------------------- > cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj INSTALL="sh > /usr/src/tools/install.sh" > PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/s > rc/i386/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin make -f Makefile.inc1 > build-tool > s > cd /usr/src/bin/csh; make build-tools > make: don't know how to make build-tools. Stop > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error seems wrong src/Makefile.inc1 rev. 1.141.2.22: @@ -575,7 +588,7 @@ .endif build-tools: -.for _tool in bin/sh ${_games} gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools ${_fortran} \ +.for _tool in bin/csh bin/sh ${_games} gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools ${_fortran} \ ${_libroken4} ${_libkrb5} lib/libncurses ${_share} ${_perl} cd ${.CURDIR}/${_tool}; ${MAKE} build-tools there no build-tools target in src/bin/csh/Makefile -- Laa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 7:47:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F2BD37B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:47:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id HAA07065; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:47:07 -0800 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda07063; Sun Mar 4 07:47:07 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f24Fl1f73592; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:47:01 -0800 (PST) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdI73579; Sun Mar 4 07:46:10 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f24FkAm07434; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:46:10 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103041546.f24FkAm07434@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpddD7419; Sun Mar 4 07:45:18 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: Don Lewis Cc: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , Mike Tancsa , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: more strange problem with broken pipes and ssh In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 03 Mar 2001 21:37:50 PST." <200103040537.VAA25992@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 07:45:18 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200103040537.VAA25992@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com>, Don Lewis writes: > On Mar 3, 9:26pm, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > } Subject: Re: more strange problem with broken pipes and ssh > } In message <200103040503.VAA25820@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com>, Don Lewis > } writes: > > } > Did you actually change your login shell? If your login shell happens > } > to be one that calls signal(SIGPIPE, SIG_DFL), then any subshells that > } > you invoke from it will behave properly. > } > } Yes, I changed the login shell. Not changing the login shell would > } make a pointless test, would you think? > > Just making sure ... > > What about the setting of UseLogin in sshd_config? I was thinking that myself. I'll have to try it later today or tomorrow. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 7:56:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pobox.rwwa.com (pobox.rwwa.com [216.254.75.81]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF43237B718; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 07:56:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from witr@rwwa.com) Received: from rwwa.com (spooky.rwwa.com [192.124.97.13]) by pobox.rwwa.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA38229; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:56:00 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from witr@rwwa.com) Message-Id: <200103041556.KAA38229@pobox.rwwa.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: asami@clickarray.com (Satoshi Asami) Cc: Peter Pentchev , Maxim Sobolev , ports@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: end of 3-stable support In-Reply-To: Your message of "03 Mar 2001 12:29:36 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 10:56:00 -0500 From: Robert Withrow Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG asami@clickarray.com said: :-The idea is to give 3-stable users a fighting chance to use the latest :-ports while not burdening the porters with any extra work for 3-stable :-support. I agree with this level of support. The only question I have is: Having just upgraded my ports/Mk I can't build any ports on 3.x and since there isn't an "upgrade kit" anymore it isn't clear what I need to "fight" to get the one or two ports updated before I can schedule downtime and upgrade all these 3.x systems to 4.x. So I have a suggestion: Could the ports web page be modified this way: Start a new paragraph beginning with "The 3.x branch is fast approaching", and add something like this after "4.3-RELEASE is rolled." "In the meantime, many of the ports here *may* work on 3.x systems if you do the following: xxxxx". (Obviously someone far more knowlegable than me would have to fill in the xxxx! ;-) And this would be deleted when 4.3 is out (on CDROM please!). That would greatly help the (I'm guessing) many of us who accept the need to move on in our lives (and upgrade to a version of FBSD from this millenium), but just can't do it *right now*. --------------------------------------------------------------------- Robert Withrow, R.W. Withrow Associates, Swampscott MA, witr@rwwa.COM To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 8:35: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hecubus.mx (CC2-1242.charter-stl.com [24.217.116.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97A1D37B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 08:35:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: (from ajh3@localhost) by hecubus.mx (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f24GYnm08093 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:34:49 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ajh3) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:34:49 -0600 From: Andrew Hesford To: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Version Numbering Message-ID: <20010304103449.A8042@cec.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What with all the version inflation going on in the Linux world, I have an idea for FreeBSD. Forget 4.3-STABLE. Skip to 4.4. And rather than calling it FreeBSD 4.4-STABLE, call it 4.4FreeBSD. That way, we can show off the roots of FreeBSD and make it sound cool, too! Or, we can stop people from asking, "Why is RedHat in version 7, Mandrake almost in version 8, and FreeBSD only in 4?" (assuming RedHat users even know what FreeBSD is). Just call the next release FreeBSD 10.3-STABLE or FreeBSD 2001-STABLE. -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 9: 2:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ws130.nomadiclab.com (ws130.nomadiclab.com [195.165.196.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACC7437B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:02:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from martti.kuparinen@nomadiclab.com) Received: from server.nomadiclab.com (server.nomadiclab.com [195.165.196.130]) by ws130.nomadiclab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6AE5E72501 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:02:20 +0200 (EET) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:02:20 +0200 (EET) From: Martti Kuparinen To: Subject: Different output from pkg_version Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! Does anyone know a reason for the difference in the following outputs: ROOT ws3:~> uname -a FreeBSD ws3 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #3: Thu Mar 1 08:10:02 EET 2001 root@ws3:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/WS3 i386 ROOT ws3:~> ROOT ws3:~> pkg_info | grep bash bash-2.04 The GNU Bourne Again Shell ROOT ws3:~> ROOT ws3:~> pkg_version -v | grep bash bash-2.04 = up-to-date with port ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ROOT server:~> uname -a FreeBSD server 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #2: Thu Mar 1 09:22:03 EET 2001 root@server:/usr/src/sys/compile/SERVER i386 ROOT server:~> ROOT server:~> pkg_info | grep bash bash-2.04 The GNU Borne Again Shell ROOT server:~> ROOT server:~> pkg_version -v | grep bash bash-2.04 * multiple versions (index has 1.14.7,2.04) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Server has been running 4.x since 4.0-RELEASE while ws3 was born as 4.2-200101xx-STABLE (from releng4.freebsd.org). Both are now running the same version (make world kernel and mergemaster) and /usr/ports was cvsup'ed today so the sources are exactly the same. Martti --- Martti Kuparinen http://www.iki.fi/~kuparine/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 9:26:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E1437B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:26:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from mail2.uniserve.com ([204.244.156.10]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14ZcGs-0008mG-00; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 09:26:15 -0800 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:26:14 -0800 (PST) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@athena.uniserve.ca To: Mattias Pantzare Cc: Martti Kuparinen , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: major resolver problems in -STABLE In-Reply-To: <200103041147.MAA03917@mother.ludd.luth.se> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Mattias Pantzare wrote: > No, that is simply not true. hostname is _not_ related to DNS. DNS names > IP adresses, an IP adress names a interface, not a host. > > You can set hostname to whatever you think looks nice. > > If you have applications that depend on hostname beeing a FQDN then they are > broken. No. "hostname" should be resolvable. Lots of applications want this (ie. sendmail). Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 9:28:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BEC937B71A for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:28:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from mail2.uniserve.com ([204.244.156.10]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14ZcIh-0008tq-00; Sun, 04 Mar 2001 09:28:07 -0800 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:28:07 -0800 (PST) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@athena.uniserve.ca To: Andrew Hesford Cc: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: Version Numbering In-Reply-To: <20010304103449.A8042@cec.wustl.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Andrew Hesford wrote: > What with all the version inflation going on in the Linux world, I have > an idea for FreeBSD. > > Forget 4.3-STABLE. Skip to 4.4. And rather than calling it FreeBSD > 4.4-STABLE, call it 4.4FreeBSD. That way, we can show off the roots of > FreeBSD and make it sound cool, too! This discussion already occured over a year ago. Use the archive. > Or, we can stop people from asking, "Why is RedHat in version 7, > Mandrake almost in version 8, and FreeBSD only in 4?" (assuming RedHat > users even know what FreeBSD is). Just call the next release FreeBSD > 10.3-STABLE or FreeBSD 2001-STABLE. Are people seriously fooled by version numbers? I've never seen anyone on this list ask why the version number wasn't bigger. > -- > Andrew Hesford > ajh3@chmod.ath.cx Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 9:32:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D995A37B719 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:32:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stephen@math.missouri.edu) Received: from math.missouri.edu ([24.12.197.197]) by femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010304173235.IJXO25644.femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com@math.missouri.edu>; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:32:35 -0800 Message-ID: <3AA27C32.C85E47FE@math.missouri.edu> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 11:32:34 -0600 From: Stephen Montgomery-Smith X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Tom Cc: Andrew Hesford , FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: Version Numbering References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think that Andrew was just having fun. Tom wrote: > > On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Andrew Hesford wrote: > > > What with all the version inflation going on in the Linux world, I have > > an idea for FreeBSD. > > > > Forget 4.3-STABLE. Skip to 4.4. And rather than calling it FreeBSD > > 4.4-STABLE, call it 4.4FreeBSD. That way, we can show off the roots of > > FreeBSD and make it sound cool, too! > > This discussion already occured over a year ago. Use the archive. > > > Or, we can stop people from asking, "Why is RedHat in version 7, > > Mandrake almost in version 8, and FreeBSD only in 4?" (assuming RedHat > > users even know what FreeBSD is). Just call the next release FreeBSD > > 10.3-STABLE or FreeBSD 2001-STABLE. > > Are people seriously fooled by version numbers? I've never seen anyone > on this list ask why the version number wasn't bigger. > > > -- > > Andrew Hesford > > ajh3@chmod.ath.cx > > Tom > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Stephen Montgomery-Smith stephen@math.missouri.edu http://www.math.missouri.edu/~stephen To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 9:34:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com [24.6.21.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 908A937B71E for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:34:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from conrads@cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f24HcTw61184 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:38:29 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from conrads) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 11:38:29 -0600 (CST) From: Conrad Sabatier To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: buildworld failure (3-4-2001 cvsup) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 2: build tools -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj INSTALL="sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh" PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/s rc/i386/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin make -f Makefile.inc1 build-tools cd /usr/src/bin/csh; make build-tools make: don't know how to make build-tools. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Conrad Sabatier Date: 04-Mar-01 Time: 11:37:14 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 9:43:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2BE537B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:43:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id JAA07281; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:43:10 -0800 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda07279; Sun Mar 4 09:42:56 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f24Hgpq10640; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:42:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdP10351; Sun Mar 4 09:42:17 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f24HgGk09191; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:42:16 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103041742.f24HgGk09191@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdef9186; Sun Mar 4 09:41:37 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: Andrew Hesford , Tom , FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: Version Numbering In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 04 Mar 2001 09:28:07 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 09:41:36 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Tom writes: > > On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Andrew Hesford wrote: > > > What with all the version inflation going on in the Linux world, I have > > an idea for FreeBSD. > > > > Forget 4.3-STABLE. Skip to 4.4. And rather than calling it FreeBSD > > 4.4-STABLE, call it 4.4FreeBSD. That way, we can show off the roots of > > FreeBSD and make it sound cool, too! > > This discussion already occured over a year ago. Use the archive. Agreed, I don't want to see this discussion again. > > > Or, we can stop people from asking, "Why is RedHat in version 7, > > Mandrake almost in version 8, and FreeBSD only in 4?" (assuming RedHat > > users even know what FreeBSD is). Just call the next release FreeBSD > > 10.3-STABLE or FreeBSD 2001-STABLE. > > Are people seriously fooled by version numbers? I've never seen anyone > on this list ask why the version number wasn't bigger. I had a snide remark about windows that might have been appropriate at another time and in another place, however this topic doesn't belong here, it's been discussed to death and a decision has been made. Anyone who still wants to discuss this topic, take it to -chat and quit wasting our time! Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 9:53:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2DCB37B719 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:53:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp (fcage [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f24HrFg37423; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:53:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20010304124452.01cd9380@marble.sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@marble.sentex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 12:53:15 -0500 To: Conrad Sabatier , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: buildworld failure (3-4-2001 cvsup) In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes, the same problem here. Just tried off cvsup11 -------------------------------------------------------------- >>> stage 2: build tools -------------------------------------------------------------- cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj INSTALL="sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh" PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/us r/src/i386/usr/bin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr /bin make -f Makefile.inc1 build-tools cd /usr/src/bin/csh; make build-tools make: don't know how to make build-tools. Stop *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 vinyl2# At 11:38 AM 3/4/2001 -0600, Conrad Sabatier wrote: >-------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> stage 2: build tools >-------------------------------------------------------------- >cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=/usr/obj INSTALL="sh >/usr/src/tools/install.sh" >PATH=/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin:/usr/obj/ >usr/s >rc/i386/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin make -f Makefile.inc1 >build-tools >cd /usr/src/bin/csh; make build-tools >make: don't know how to make build-tools. Stop >*** Error code 2 > >Stop in /usr/src. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/src. >*** Error code 1 > >Stop in /usr/src. > >---------------------------------- >E-Mail: Conrad Sabatier >Date: 04-Mar-01 >Time: 11:37:14 > >This message was sent by XFMail >---------------------------------- > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 9:53:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk [193.237.89.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F11037B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:52:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nik@nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk) Received: (from nik@localhost) by nothing-going-on.demon.co.uk (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f24Buo100581; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:56:50 GMT (envelope-from nik) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:56:49 +0000 From: Nik Clayton To: "Daniel C. Sobral" Cc: nickhead@folino.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: KERNCONF instead of KERNEL? Message-ID: <20010304115649.A420@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> References: <20010302134531.26192.qmail@www1.nameplanet.com> <3A9FAF6B.29CC5157@newsguy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="PmA2V3Z32TCmWXqI" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3A9FAF6B.29CC5157@newsguy.com>; from dcs@newsguy.com on Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 11:34:19PM +0900 Organization: FreeBSD Project Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --PmA2V3Z32TCmWXqI Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv" Content-Disposition: inline --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 11:34:19PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > Here is the order suggested and the why: >=20 > 1) make buildworld -- because the new kernel may depend on new tools > (config(8) is a common example, but no the only one). > 2) make buildkernel -- some programs may depend on new syscalls, so > build the kernel before installing the world. > 3) make installkernel -- install a new kernel (the copy of the old one > is preserved) > 4) reboot single user -- make sure the new kernel works > 5) mount filesystems, make installworld -- install the rest of the world > 6) mergemaster -- update /etc -- the new userland tools may require new > /etc scripts and configuration files. I think the attached diff to the Handbook brings it up to date with reality. I've also attached the generated HTML file, for those of you that don't want to build the docs. Comments? N --=20 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="makeworld.html" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Using make world
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19.4. Using make world

Once you have synchronized your local source tree against a particular version of FreeBSD (stable, current and so on) you must then use the source tree to rebuild the system.

Take a backup: I cannot stress highly enough how important it is to take a backup of your system before you do this. While remaking the world is (as long as you follow these instructions) an easy task to do, there will inevitably be times when you make mistakes, or when mistakes made by others in the source tree render your system unbootable.

Make sure you have taken a backup. And have a fix-it floppy to hand. I have never needed to use them, and, touch wood, I never will, but it is always better to be safe than sorry.

Subscribe to the right mailing list: The -STABLE and -CURRENT FreeBSD code branches are, by their nature, in development. People that contribute to FreeBSD are human, and mistakes occasionally happen.

Sometimes these mistakes can be quite harmless, just causing your system to print a new diagnostic warning. Or the change may be catastrophic, and render your system unbootable or destroy your filesystems (or worse).

If problems like these occur, a ``heads up'' is posted to the appropriate mailing list, explaining the nature of the problem and which systems it affects. And an ``all clear'' announcement is posted when the problem has been solved.

If you try and track -STABLE or -CURRENT and do not read the <stable@FreeBSD.org> or <current@FreeBSD.org> mailing lists then you are asking for trouble.

19.4.1. Read /usr/src/UPDATING

Before you do anything else, read /usr/src/UPDATING (or the equivalent file wherever you have a copy of the source code). This file should contain important information about problems you might encounter, or specify the order in which you might have to run certain commands. If UPDATING contradicts something you read here, UPDATING takes precedence.

Important: Reading UPDATING is not an acceptable substitute for subscribing to the correct mailing list, as described previously. The two requirements are complementary, not exclusive.

19.4.2. Check /etc/make.conf

Examine the files /etc/defaults/make.conf and /etc/make.conf. The first contains some default defines - most of which are commented out. To make use of them when you rebuild your system from source, add them to /etc/make.conf. Keep in mind that anything you add to /etc/make.conf is also used every time you run make, so it is a good idea to set them to something sensible for your system.

As a typical user (not a FreeBSD developer), you will probably want to copy the CFLAGS and NOPROFILE lines found in /etc/defaults/make.conf to /etc/make.conf and uncomment them.

Version 2.1.7 and below: If your machine has a floating point unit (386DX, 486DX, Pentium and up class machines) then you can also uncomment the HAVE_FPU line.

This definition was removed for version 2.2.2 and up of FreeBSD.

Examine the other definitions (COPTFLAGS, NOPORTDOCS and so on) and decide if they are relevant to you.

19.4.3. Update /etc/group

The /etc directory contains a large part of your system's configuration information, as well as scripts that are run at system startup. Some of these scripts change from version to version of FreeBSD.

Some of the configuration files are also used in the day to day running of the system. In particular, /etc/group.

There have been occasions when the installation part of ``make world'' has expected certain usernames or groups to exist. When performing an upgrade it is likely that these groups did not exist. This caused problems when upgrading.

The most recent example of this is when the ``ppp'' group (later renamed ``network'') was added. Users had the installation process fail for them when parts of the ppp subsystem were installed using a non-existent (for them) group name.

The solution is to examine /usr/src/etc/group and compare its list of groups with your own. If they are any groups in the new file that are not in your file then copy them over. Similarly, you should rename any groups in /etc/group which have the same GID but a different name to those in /usr/src/etc/group.

Tip: If you are feeling particularly paranoid, you can check your system to see which files are owned by the group you are renaming or deleting.

    # find / -group GID -print

will show all files owned by group GID (which can be either a group name or a numeric group ID).

19.4.4. Drop to single user mode

You may want to compile the system in single user mode. Apart from the obvious benefit of making things go slightly faster, reinstalling the system will touch a lot of important system files, all the standard system binaries, libraries, include files and so on. Changing these on a running system (particularly if you have active users on their at the time) is asking for trouble.

That said, if you are confident, you can omit this step.

Version 2.2.5 and above: As described in more detail below, versions 2.2.5 and above of FreeBSD have separated the building process from the installing process. You can therefore build the new system in multi-user mode, and then drop to single user mode to do the installation.

As the superuser, you can execute

    # shutdown now

from a running system, which will drop it to single user mode.

Alternatively, reboot the system, and at the boot prompt, enter the -s flag. The system will then boot single user. At the shell prompt you should then run:

    # fsck -p
    # mount -u /
    # mount -a -t ufs
    # swapon -a

This checks the filesystems, remounts / read/write, mounts all the other UFS filesystems referenced in /etc/fstab and then turns swapping on.

19.4.5. Remove /usr/obj

As parts of the system are rebuilt they are placed in directories which (by default) go under /usr/obj. The directories shadow those under /usr/src.

You can speed up the ``make world'' process, and possibly save yourself some dependency headaches by removing this directory as well.

Some files below /usr/obj will have the immutable flag set (see chflags(1) for more information) which must be removed first.

    # cd /usr/obj
    # chflags -R noschg *
    # rm -rf *

19.4.6. Recompile the source

19.4.6.1. All versions

You must be in the /usr/src directory...

    # cd /usr/src

(unless, of course, your source code is elsewhere, in which case change to that directory instead).

To rebuild the world you use the make(1) command. This command reads instructions from the Makefile which describes how the programs that comprise FreeBSD should be rebuilt, the order they should be built in, and so on.

The general format of the command line you will type is as follows:

    # make -x -DVARIABLE target

In this example, -x is an option that you would pass to make(1). See the make(1) manual page for an example of the options you can pass.

-DVARIABLE passes a variable to the Makefile. The behavior of the Makefile is controlled by these variables. These are the same variables as are set in /etc/make.conf, and this provides another way of setting them.

    # make -DNOPROFILE=3Dtrue target

is another way of specifying that profiled libraries should not be built, and corresponds with the

    NOPROFILE=3D    true
    #    Avoid compiling profiled libraries

lines in /etc/make.conf.

target tells make(1) what you want to do. Each Makefile defines a number of different ``targets'', and your choice of target determines what happens.

Some targets are listed in the Makefile, but are not meant for you to run. Instead, they are used by the build process to break out the steps necessary to rebuild the system into a number of sub-steps.

Most of the time you won't need to pass any parameters to make(1), and so your command like will look like this:

    # make target

19.4.6.2. Saving the output

It's a good idea to save the output you get from running make(1) to another file. If something goes wrong you will have a copy of the error message, and a complete list of where the process had got to. While this might not help you in diagnosing what has gone wrong, it can help others if you post your problem to one of the FreeBSD mailing lists.

The easiest way to do this is to use the script(1) command, with a parameter that specifies the name of the file to save all output to. You would do this immediately before remaking the world, and then type exit when the process has finished.

    # script /var/tmp/mw.out
    Script started, output file is /var/tmp/mw.out  =20
    # make world
    ... compile, compile, compile ...    =20
    # exit
    Script done, ...

If you do this, do not save the output in /tmp. This directory may be cleared next time you reboot. A better place to store it is in /var/tmp (as in the previous example) or in root's home directory.

19.4.6.3. Version 2.2.2 and below

/usr/src/Makefile contains the world target, which will rebuild the entire system and then install it.

Use it like this:

    # make world

This will also install the new system binaries.

19.4.6.4. Version 2.2.5 and above

Beginning with version 2.2.5 of FreeBSD (actually, it was first created on the -CURRENT branch, and then retrofitted to -STABLE midway between 2.2.2 and 2.2.5) the world target has been split in two. buildworld and installworld.

As the names imply, buildworld builds a complete new tree under /usr/obj, and installworld installs this tree on the current machine.

This is very useful for 2 reasons. First, it allows you to do the build safe in the knowledge that no components of your running system will be affected. The build is ``self hosted''. Because of this, you can safely run buildworld on a machine running in multi-user mode with no fear of ill-effects. I still recommend you run the installworld part in single user mode though.

Secondly, it allows you to use NFS mounts to upgrade multiple machines on your network. If you have three machines, A, B and C that you want to upgrade, run make buildworld and make installworld on A. B and C should then NFS mount /usr/src and /usr/obj from A, and you can then run make installworld to install the results of the build on B and C.

Although the world target still exists, you are strongly encouraged not to use it.

Run

    # make buildworld

19.4.6.5. -CURRENT and above

If you are tracking -CURRENT you can also pass the -j option to make. This lets make spawn several simultaneous processes.

This is most useful on true multi-CPU machines. However, since much of the compiling process is IO bound rather than CPU bound it is also useful on single CPU machines.

On a typical single-CPU machine you would run:

    # make -j4 buildworld

make(1) will then have up to 4 processes running at any one time. Empirical evidence posted to the mailing lists shows this generally gives the best performance benefit.

If you have a multi-CPU machine and you are using an SMP configured kernel try values between 6 and 10 and see how they speed things up.

Be aware that (at the time of writing) this is still experimental, and commits to the source tree may occasionally break this feature. If the world fails to compile using this parameter try again without it before you report any problems.

19.4.6.6. Timings

As a general rule of thumb, a 200MHz P6 with more than 32MB of RAM and reasonable SCSI disks will complete make world in about an hour and a half. A 32MB P133 will take 5 or 6 hours. Revise these figures down if your machines are slower...

19.4.7. Compile and install a new kernel

To take full advantage of your new system you should recompile the kernel. This is practically a necessity, as certain memory structures may have changed, and programs like ps(1) and top(1) will fail to work until the kernel and source code versions are the same.

The simplest, safest way to do this is to build and install a kernel based on GENERIC. While GENERIC may not have all the necessary devices for your system, it should contain everything necessary to boot your system back to single user mode. This is a good test that the new system works properly. After booting from GENERIC and verifying that your system works you can then build a new kernel based on your normal kernel config file.

If you are upgrading to FreeBSD 4.0 or above then the standard kernel build procedure (as described in Chapter 7) is deprecated. Instead, you should run these commands.

    # cd /usr/src
    # make buildkernel
    # make installkernel

If you are upgrading to a version of FreeBSD below 4.0 you should use the standard kernel build procedure. However, it is recommended that you use the new version of config(8), using a command line like this.

    # /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/config/config KERNELNAME

19.4.8. Reboot in to single user mode

You should reboot in to single user mode to test the new kernel works. Do this by following the instructions in Section 19.4.4.

19.4.9. Install the new system binaries

If you were building a version of FreeBSD recent enough to have used make buildworld then you should now use the installworld to install the new system binaries.

Run

    # make installworld

Note: If you specified variables on the make buildworld command line, you must specify the same variables in the make installworld command line.

For example, if you ran:

    # make -DNOPROFILE=3Dtrue buildworld

you must install the results with:

    # make -DNOPROFILE=3Dtrue installworld

otherwise it would try and install profiled libraries that had not been built during the make buildworld phase.

19.4.10. Update files not updated by make world

Remaking the world will not update certain directories (in particular, /etc, /var and /usr) with new or changed configuration files.

The simplest way to update these files is to use mergemaster(8), though it is possible to do it manually if you would prefer to do that. We strongly recommend you use mergemaster(8), however, and if you do then you can skip forward to the next section, since mergemaster(8) is very simple to use. You should read the manual page first, and make a backup of /etc in case anything goes wrong.

If you wish to do the update manually, you cannot just copy over the files from /usr/src/etc to /etc and have it work. Some of these files must be ``installed'' first. This is because the /usr/src/etc directory is not a copy of what your /etc directory should look like. In addition, there are files that should be in /etc that are not in /usr/src/etc.

The simplest way to do this by hand is to install the files into a new directory, and then work through them looking for differences.

Backup your existing /etc: Although, in theory, nothing is going to touch this directory automatically, it is always better to be sure. So copy your existing /etc directory somewhere safe. Something like:

    # cp -Rp /etc /etc.old

-R does a recursive copy, -p preserves times, ownerships on files and suchlike.

You need to build a dummy set of directories to install the new /etc and other files into. I generally choose to put this dummy directory in /var/tmp/root, and there are a number of subdirectories required under this as well.

    # mkdir /var/tmp/root
    # cd /usr/src/etc
    # make DESTDIR=3D/var/tmp/root distrib-dirs distribution

This will build the necessary directory structure and install the files. A lot of the subdirectories that have been created under /var/tmp/root are empty and should be deleted. The simplest way to do this is to:

    # cd /var/tmp/root
    # find -d . -type d | xargs rmdir 2>/dev/null

This will remove all empty directories. (Standard error is redirected to /dev/null to prevent the warnings about the directories that are not empty.)

/var/tmp/root now contains all the files that should be placed in appropriate locations below /. You now have to go through each of these files, determining how they differ with your existing files.

Note that some of the files that will have been installed in /var/tmp/root have a leading ``.''. At the time of writing the only files like this are shell startup files in /var/tmp/root/ and /var/tmp/root/root/, although there may be others (depending on when you are reading this. Make sure you use ls -a to catch them.

The simplest way to do this is to use diff(1) to compare the two files.

    # diff /etc/shells /var/tmp/root/etc/shells

This will show you the differences between your /etc/shells file and the new /etc/shells file. Use these to decide whether to merge in changes that you have made or whether to copy over your old file.

Name the new root directory (/var/tmp/root)with a time stamp, so you can easily compare differences between versions: Frequently remaking the world means that you have to update /etc frequently as well, which can be a bit of a chore.

You can speed this process up by keeping a copy of the last set of changed files that you merged into /etc. The following procedure gives one idea of how to do this.

  1. Make the world as normal. When you want to update /etc and the other directories, give the target directory a name based on the current date. If you were doing this on the 14th of February 1998 you could do the following.

        # mkdir /var/tmp/root-19980214
    # cd /usr/src/etc
    # make DESTDIR=3D/var/tmp/root-19980214 \
    distrib-dirs distribution

  2. Merge in the changes from this directory as outlined above.

    Do not remove the /var/tmp/root-19980214 directory when you have finished.

  3. When you have downloaded the latest version of the source and remade it, follow step 1. This will give you a new directory, which might be called /var/tmp/root-19980221 (if you wait a week between doing updates).

  4. You can now see the differences that have been made in the intervening week using diff(1) to create a recursive diff between the two directories.

        # cd /var/tmp
    # diff -r root-19980214 root-19980221

    Typically, this will be a much smaller set of differences than those between /var/tmp/root-19980221/etc and /etc. Because the set of differences is smaller, it is easier to migrate those changes across into your /etc directory.

  5. You can now remove the older of the two /var/tmp/root-* directories.

        # rm -rf /var/tmp/root-19980214

  6. Repeat this process every time you need to merge in changes to /etc.

You can use date(1) to automate the generation of the directory names.

    # mkdir /var/tmp/root-`date "+%Y%m%d"`

19.4.11. Update /dev

DEVFS: If you are using DEVFS then this is probably unnecessary.

For safety's sake, this is a multi-step process.

  1. Copy /var/tmp/root/dev/MAKEDEV to /dev.

        # cp /var/tmp/root/dev/MAKEDEV /dev

    If you used mergemaster(8) to update /etc, then your MAKEDEV script should have been updated already, though it can't hurt to check (with diff(1)) and copy it manually if necessary.

  2. Now, take a snapshot of your current /dev. This snapshot needs to contain the permissions, ownerships, major and minor numbers of each filename, but it should not contain the time stamps. The easiest way to do this is to use awk(1) to strip out some of the information.

        # cd /dev
    # ls -l | awk '{print $1, $2, $3, $4, $5, $6, $NF}' > /var/=
tmp/dev.out

  3. Remake all the devices.

        # sh MAKEDEV all

  4. Write another snapshot of the directory, this time to /var/tmp/dev2.out. Now look through these two files for any devices that you missed creating. There should not be any, but it is better to be safe than sorry.

        # diff /var/tmp/dev.out /var/tmp/dev2.out

    You are most likely to notice disk slice discrepancies which will involve commands such as

        # sh MAKEDEV sd0s1
    to recreate the slice entries. Your precise circumstances may vary.

19.4.12. Update /stand

Note: This step is included only for completeness. It can safely be omitted.

For the sake of completeness, you may want to update the files in /stand as well. These files consist of hard links to the /stand/sysinstall binary. This binary should be statically linked, so that it can work when no other filesystems (and in particular /usr) have been mounted.

    # cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall
    # make all install

Source older than 2 April 1998: If your source code is older than 2nd April 1998, or the Makefile version is not 1.68 or higher (for FreeBSD current and 3.X systems) or 1.48.2.21 or higher (for 2.2.X systems) you will need to add the NOSHARED=3Dyes option, like so;

    # make NOSHARED=3Dyes all install

19.4.13. Rebooting

You are now done. After you have verified that everything appears to be in the right place you can reboot the system. A simple fastboot(8) should do it.

    # fastboot

19.4.14. Finished

You should now have successfully upgraded your FreeBSD system. Congratulations.

You may notice small problems due to things that you have missed. For example, I once deleted /etc/magic as part of the upgrade and merge to /etc, and the file command stopped working. A moment's thought meant that

    # cd /usr/src/usr.bin/file
    # make all install
was sufficient to fix that one.

19.4.15. Questions?

19.4.15.1. Do I need to re-make the world for every change?
19.4.15.2. My compile failed with lots of signal 11 (or other signal number) errors. What has happened?
19.4.15.3. Can I remove /usr/obj when I have finished?
19.4.15.4. Can interrupted builds be resumed?
19.4.15.5. Can I use one machine as a master to upgrade lots of machines (NFS)?
19.4.15.6. How can I speed up making the world?

19.4.15.1. Do I need to re-make the world for every change?

There is no easy answer to this one, as it depends on the nature of the change. For example, I have just run CVSup, and it has shown the following files as being updated since I last ran it;

    src/games/cribbage/instr.c
    src/games/sail/pl_main.c
    src/release/sysinstall/config.c
    src/release/sysinstall/media.c
    src/share/mk/bsd.port.mk

There is nothing in there that I would re-make the world for. I would go to the appropriate sub-directories and make all install, and that's about it. But if something major changed, for example src/lib/libc/stdlib then I would either re-make the world, or at least those parts of it that are statically linked (as well as anything else I might have added that is statically linked).

At the end of the day, it is your call. You might be happy re-making the world every fortnight say, and let changes accumulate over that fortnight. Or you might want to re-make just those things that have changed, and are confident you can spot all the dependencies.

And, of course, this all depends on how often you want to upgrade, and whether you are tracking -STABLE or -CURRENT.

19.4.15.2. My compile failed with lots of signal 11 (or other signal number) errors. What has happened?

This is normally indicative of hardware problems. (Re)making the world is an effective way to stress test your hardware, and will frequently throw up memory problems. These normally manifest themselves as the compiler mysteriously dying on receipt of strange signals.

A sure indicator of this is if you can restart the make and it dies at a different point in the process.

In this instance there is little you can do except start swapping around the components in your machine to determine which one is failing.

19.4.15.3. Can I remove /usr/obj when I have finished?

That depends on how you want to make the world on future occasions.

/usr/obj contains all the object files that were produced during the compilation phase. Normally, one of the first steps in the ``make world'' process is to remove this directory and start afresh. In this case, keeping /usr/obj around after you have finished makes little sense, and will free up a large chunk of disk space (currently about 150MB).

However, if you know what you are doing you can have ``make world'' skip this step. This will make subsequent builds run much faster, since most of sources will not need to be recompiled. The flip side of this is that subtle dependency problems can creep in, causing your build to fail in odd ways. This frequently generates noise on the FreeBSD mailing lists, when one person complains that their build has failed, not realising that it is because they have tried to cut corners.

If you want to live dangerously then make the world, passing the NOCLEAN definition to make, like this:

    # make -DNOCLEAN world

19.4.15.4. Can interrupted builds be resumed?

This depends on how far through the process you got before you found a problem.

In general (and this is not a hard and fast rule) the ``make world'' process builds new copies of essential tools (such as gcc(1), and make(1)>) and the system libraries. These tools and libraries are then installed. The new tools and libraries are then used to rebuild themselves, and are installed again. The entire system (now including regular user programs, such as ls(1) or grep(1)) is then rebuilt with the new system files.

If you are at the last state, and you know it (because you have looked through the output that you were storing) then you can (fairly safely) do

    ... fix the problem ...
    # cd /usr/src
    # make -DNOCLEAN all

This will not undo the work of the previous ``make world''.

If you see the message

    --------------------------------------------------------------
    Building everything..
    --------------------------------------------------------------
in the ``make world'' output then it is probably fairly safe to do so.

If you do not see that message, or you are not sure, then it is always better to be safe than sorry, and restart the build from scratch.

19.4.15.5. Can I use one machine as a master to upgrade lots of machines (NFS)?

People often ask on the FreeBSD mailing lists whether they can do all the compiling on one machine, and then use the results of that compile to make install on to other machines around the network.

This is not something I have done, so the suggestions below are either from other people, or deduced from the Makefiles.

The precise approach to take depends on your version of FreeBSD

You must still upgrade /etc and /dev on the target machines after doing this.

For 2.1.7 and below, Antonio Bemfica suggested the following approach:

    Date: Thu, 20 Feb 1997 14:05:01 -0400 (AST)
    From: Antonio Bemfica <bemfica@militzer.me.tuns.ca>
    To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.org
    Message-ID: <Pine.BSI.3.94.970220135725.245C-100000@militzer.me.tuns=
.ca>
   =20
    Josef Karthauser asked:
   =20
    > Has anybody got a good method for upgrading machines on a network
   =20
    First make world, etc.  on your main machine
    Second, mount / and /usr from the remote machine:
   =20
    main_machine% mount remote_machine:/   /mnt
    main_machine% mount remote_machine:/usr /mnt/usr
   =20
    Third, do a 'make install' with /mnt as the destination:
   =20
    main_machine% make install DESTDIR=3D/mnt
   =20
    Repeat for every other remote machine on your network.   It works fine
    for me.
        =20
    Antonio

This mechanism will only work (to the best of my knowledge) if you can write to /usr/src on the NFS server, as the install target in 2.1.7 and below needed to do this.

Midway between 2.1.7 and 2.2.0 the ``reinstall'' target was committed. You can use the approach exactly as outlined above for 2.1.7, but use ``reinstall'' instead of ``install''.

This approach does not require write access to the /usr/src directory on the NFS server.

There was a bug introduced in this target between versions 1.68 and 1.107 of the Makefile, which meant that write access to the NFS server was required. This bug was fixed before version 2.2.0 of FreeBSD was released, but may be an issue of you have an old server still running -STABLE from this era.

For version 2.2.5 and above, you can use the ``buildworld'' and ``installworld'' targets. Use them to build a source tree on one machine, and then NFS mount /usr/src and /usr/obj on the remote machine and install it there.

19.4.15.6. How can I speed up making the world?

  • Run in single user mode.

  • Put the /usr/src and /usr/obj directories on separate filesystems held on separate disks. If possible, put these disks on separate disk controllers.

  • Better still, put these filesystems across separate disks using the ``ccd'' (concatenated disk driver) device.

  • Turn off profiling (set ``NOPROFILE=3Dtrue'' in /etc/make.conf). You almost certainly do not need it.

  • Also in /etc/make.conf, set ``CFLAGS'' to something like ``-O -pipe''. The optimization ``-O2'' is much slower, and the optimization difference between ``-O'' and ``-O2'' is normally negligible. ``-pipe'' lets the compiler use pipes rather than temporary files for communication, which saves disk access (at the expense of memory).

  • Pass the -j<n> option to make (if you are running a sufficiently recent version of FreeBSD) to run multiple processes in parallel. This helps regardless of whether you have a single or a multi processor machine.

  • The filesystem holding /usr/src can be mounted (or remounted) with the ``noatime'' option. This stops the time files in the filesystem were last accessed from being written to the disk. You probably do not need this information anyway.

    Note: ``noatime'' is in version 2.2.0 and above.

        # mount -u -o noatime /usr/src

    Warning: The example assumes /usr/src is on its own filesystem. If it is not (if it is a part of /usr for example) then you will need to use that filesystem mount point, and not /usr/src.



  • The filesystem holding /usr/obj can be mounted (or remounted) with the ``async'' option. This causes disk writes to happen asynchronously. In other words, the write completes immediately, and the data is written to the disk a few seconds later. This allows writes to be clustered together, and can be a dramatic performance boost.

    Warning: Keep in mind that this option makes your filesystem more fragile. With this option there is an increased chance that, should power fail, the filesystem will be in an unrecoverable state when the machine restarts.

    If /usr/obj is the only thing on this filesystem then it is not a problem. If you have other, valuable data on the same filesystem then ensure your backups are fresh before you enable this option.

        # mount -u -o async /usr/obj

    Warning: As above, if /usr/obj is not on its own filesystem, replace it in the example with the name of the appropriate mount point.

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Apart from the obvious benefit of making things go slightly faster, @@ -663,7 +663,7 @@ =20 - Recompile the source =20 All versions @@ -767,6 +767,8 @@ Use it like this: =20 &prompt.root; make world + + This will also install the new system binaries. =20 @@ -789,7 +791,7 @@ system will be affected. The build is self hosted. Because of this, you can safely run buildworld on a machine running in - multi-user mode with no fear of ill-effects. I still recommend you + multi-user mode with no fear of ill-effects. I still recommend you run the installworld part in single user mode though. =20 @@ -801,31 +803,13 @@ and /usr/obj from A, and you can then run make installworld to install the results of=20 the build on B and C. + + Although the world target still exists, + you are strongly encouraged not to use it. =20 - The world target still exists, and - you can use it exactly as shown for version 2.2.2. - make world runs make=20 - buildworld followed by make - installworld. - - - If you do the make buildworld and=20 - make installworld commands separately, you - must pass the same parameters to &man.make.1; each - time. - - If you run: - - &prompt.root; make -DNOPROFILE=3Dtrue buildworld - - you must install the results with: - - &prompt.root; make -DNOPROFILE=3Dtrue installworld - - otherwise it would try and install profiled libraries that - had not been built during the make buildworld - phase. - + Run + + &prompt.root; make buildworld =20 @@ -841,10 +825,10 @@ =20 On a typical single-CPU machine you would run: =20 - &prompt.root; make -j4 target + &prompt.root; make -j4 buildworld =20 &man.make.1; will then have up to 4 processes running at any one - time. Empirical evidence posted to the mailing lists shows this + time. Empirical evidence posted to the mailing lists shows this generally gives the best performance benefit. =20 If you have a multi-CPU machine and you are using an SMP @@ -853,27 +837,98 @@ =20 Be aware that (at the time of writing) this is still experimental, and commits to the source tree may occasionally break - this feature. If the world fails to compile using this parameter + this feature. If the world fails to compile using this parameter try again without it before you report any problems. =20 Timings =20 - Assuming everything goes well you have anywhere between an hour - and a half and a day or so to wait. - As a general rule of thumb, a 200MHz P6 with more than 32MB of - RAM and reasonable SCSI disks will complete make + RAM and reasonable SCSI disks will complete make world in about an hour and a half. A 32MB P133 will take 5 or 6 hours. Revise these figures down if your machines are slower… =20 + + Compile and install a new kernel + + To take full advantage of your new system you should recompile= the + kernel. This is practically a necessity, as certain memory structures + may have changed, and programs like &man.ps.1; and &man.top.1; will + fail to work until the kernel and source code versions are the + same. + + The simplest, safest way to do this is to build and install a + kernel based on GENERIC. While + GENERIC may not have all the necessary devices + for your system, it should contain everything necessary to boot your + system back to single user mode. This is a good test that the new + system works properly. After booting from + GENERIC and verifying that your system works you + can then build a new kernel based on your normal kernel config + file. + + If you are upgrading to FreeBSD 4.0 or above then the standard + kernel build procedure (as described in ) + is deprecated. Instead, you should run these commands. + + &prompt.root; cd /usr/src +&prompt.root; make buildkernel +&prompt.root; make installkernel + + If you are upgrading to a version of FreeBSD below 4.0 you sho= uld + use the standard kernel build procedure. However, it is recommended + that you use the new version of &man.config.8;, using a command line + like this. + =20 + &prompt.root; /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/config/co= nfig KERNELNAME + + + + Reboot in to single user mode + + You should reboot in to single user mode to test the new kernel + works. Do this by following the instructions in + . + + - Update files not updated by - <command>make world</command> + Install the new system binaries + + If you were building a version of FreeBSD recent enough to have + used make buildworld then you should now use the + installworld to install the new system + binaries. + + Run + + &prompt.root; make installworld + + + If you specified variables on the make + buildworld command line, you must specify the same + variables in the make installworld command + line. +=09 + For example, if you ran: + + &prompt.root; make -DNOPROFILE=3Dtrue buildworld + + you must install the results with: + + &prompt.root; make -DNOPROFILE=3Dtrue installworld + + otherwise it would try and install profiled libraries that + had not been built during the make buildworld + phase. + + + + + Update files not updated by <command>make world</command></ti= tle> =20 <para>Remaking the world will not update certain directories (in particular, <filename>/etc</filename>, <filename>/var</filename> and @@ -1132,65 +1187,6 @@ =20 <screen>&prompt.root; <userinput>make NOSHARED=3Dyes all install</userinp= ut></screen> </note> - </sect2> - =20 - <sect2> - <title>Compile and install a new kernel - - To take full advantage of your new system you should recompile= the - kernel. This is practically a necessity, as certain memory structures - may have changed, and programs like &man.ps.1; and &man.top.1; will - fail to work until the kernel and source code versions are the - same. - - Follow the handbook instructions for compiling a new kernel. = If - you have previously built a custom kernel then carefully examine the - LINT config file to see if there are any new - options which you should take advantage of. - - A previous version of this document suggested rebooting before - rebuilding the kernel. This is wrong because: - - - - Commands like &man.ps.1;, &man.ifconfig.8;, and &man.sysctl.8;=20 - may fail. This could leave your machine unable to connect to the - network. - - =20 - - Basic utilities like &man.mount.8; could fail, - making it impossible to mount /, - /usr and so on. This is unlikely if you are - tracking a -STABLE candidate, but more likely if you are tracking - -CURRENT during a large merge. - - - - Loadable kernel modules (LKMs on pre-3.X systems, KLDs on 3.X - systems and above) built as part of the world may - crash an older kernel. - - - - For these reasons, it is always best to rebuild and install a - new kernel before rebooting. - - You should build your new kernel after you have completed - make world (or make - installworld). If you do not want to do this (perhaps - you want to confirm that the kernel builds before updating your - system) you may have problems. These may be because your - &man.config.8; command is out of date with respect to your kernel - sources. - - In this case you could build your kernel with the new version = of &man.config.8; - =20 - &prompt.root; /usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/config/co= nfig KERNELNAME - - This may not work in all cases. It is recommended that you - complete make world (or make - installworld) before compiling a new kernel. =20 --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv-- --PmA2V3Z32TCmWXqI Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEUEARECAAYFAjqiLYAACgkQk6gHZCw343WqAgCfZHnPIZmjM7ZzWILeVgPYmjgX MbEAmPazwTyinfz2jnqZR7vFW0Gs1+8= =diIX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --PmA2V3Z32TCmWXqI-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 10: 3:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.ZSEA.zp.ua (ZSEA.zp.ua [212.8.40.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3A837B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:03:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from laa@laa.zp.ua) Received: (from laa@localhost) by mx1.ZSEA.zp.ua (8.x.x/8.x.x) with œ id f24I3B222126; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:03:11 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from laa@laa.zp.ua)œ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:03:11 +0200 From: "Alexandr A. Listopad" To: Conrad Sabatier Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildworld failure (3-4-2001 cvsup) Message-ID: <20010304200311.B56818@laa.zp.ua> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from conrads@home.com on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 11:38:29AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. try this patch: --- /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 Sun Mar 4 19:53:44 2001 +++ /usr/src/Makefile.inc1 Sun Mar 4 19:40:20 2001 @@ -587,7 +587,7 @@ .endif build-tools: -.for _tool in bin/csh bin/sh ${_games} gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools ${_fortran} \ +.for _tool in bin/sh ${_games} gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc_tools ${_fortran} \ ${_libroken4} ${_libkrb5} lib/libncurses ${_share} ${_perl} cd ${.CURDIR}/${_tool}; ${MAKE} build-tools .endfor but after patch src/Makefile.inc1 problem still here: mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/src/lib/libcam -I/usr/src/lib/libcam/../../sys -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include /usr/src/lib/libcam/camlib.c /usr/src/lib/libcam/scsi_cmdparse.c /usr/src/lib/libcam/../../sys/cam/scsi/scsi_all.c /usr/src/lib/libcam/../../sys/cam/scsi/scsi_da.c /usr/src/lib/libcam/../../sys/cam/scsi/scsi_sa.c /usr/src/lib/libcam/../../sys/cam/cam.c cd /usr/src/lib/libcam; make _EXTRADEPEND ===> libcompat rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -DLIBC_SCCS -DSYSLIBC_SCCS -I/usr/src/lib/libcompat/../libc/locale -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include /usr/src/lib/libcompat/4.1/ascftime.c /usr/src/lib/libcompat/4.1/cftime.c /usr/src/lib/libcompat/4.1/ftime.c /usr/src/lib/libcompat/4.1/getpw.c /usr/src/lib/libcompat/4.1/gtty.c /usr/src/lib/libcompat/4.1/stty.c /usr/src/lib/libcompat/4.3/cfree.c /usr/src/lib/libcompat/4.3/lsearch.c /usr/src/lib/libcompat/4.3/regex.c /usr/src/lib/libcompat/4.3/rexec.c /usr/src/lib/libcompat/4.3/insque.c /usr/src/lib/libcompat/4.3/remque.c /usr/src/lib/libcompat/4.4/cuserid.c /usr/src/lib/libcompat/regexp/regerror.c /usr/src/lib/libcompat/regexp/regexp.c /usr/src/lib/libcompat/regexp/regsub.c cd /usr/src/lib/libcompat; make _EXTRADEPEND ===> libdevstat rm -f .depend mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/src/lib/libdevstat -I/usr/src/lib/libdevstat/../../sys -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include /usr/src/lib/libdevstat/devstat.c cd /usr/src/lib/libdevstat; make _EXTRADEPEND ===> libdisk make: don't know how to make dkcksum.c. Stop *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error -- Laa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 10: 5:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.org.ru (sweet.etrust.ru [194.84.67.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A218037B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:05:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from osa@freebsd.org.ru) Received: by freebsd.org.ru (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 0B16C161; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:05:33 +0300 (MSK) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:05:33 +0300 From: "Sergey A. Osokin" To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: gcc -pthread / segfault problem Message-ID: <20010304210532.A10589@freebsd.org.ru> Reply-To: osa@FreeBSD.org.ru References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from fjoe@newst.net on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 12:56:30AM +0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 12:56:30AM +0600, Max Khon wrote: > hi, there! > > On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Lists Account wrote: > > > I was coding some stuff under a 4.2 box of mine here earlier today and I > > seem to have hit a very strange bug, I was wondering if anyone could help > > me out here. > > > > I wrote a bunch of pthread enabled code, when I tried to run the program, > > after I compiled it with -pthread (I had to with the threading code in > > there), it segfaulted, so I ran it through gdb, and it was segfaulting on > > malloc(). So I dug around some more, and eventually I tried changing that > > single line to a c++ new() call, no more problems... > > 4.2-RELEASE has known problems with C++ and pthreads > please upgrade to latest -STABLE latest means RELENG_4 after 06.01.2001 :-) Rgdz, /"\ Sergey Osokin aka oZZ, \ / ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN osa@freebsd.org.ru X AGAINST HTML MAIL http://freebsd.org.ru/~osa/ / \ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 10:13:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446AB37B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:13:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from graywane@home.com) Received: from cg392862-a.adubn1.nj.home.com ([65.2.79.221]) by femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010304181313.JGSQ25644.femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cg392862-a.adubn1.nj.home.com> for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:13:13 -0800 Received: (from graywane@localhost) by cg392862-a.adubn1.nj.home.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f24IDCh22696 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:13:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from graywane) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:13:10 -0500 From: Graywane To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: gftp compiled before this weekend - doesn't now. Message-ID: <20010304131310.A22648@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG /usr/ports/ftp/gftp compiled on 4.2-STABLE before this weekend. Doesn't link now. Here is the relevant information. $ head -1 /etc/motd FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE (GRAYWANE) #0: Sat Mar 3 09:13:17 EST 2001 ===> Building for gftp-2.0.7b [snip] cc -D_REENTRANT -O -o gftp bookmarks.o cache.o chmod_dialog.o config_file.o delete_dialog.o dnd.o file_transfer.o ftp.o gftp.o local.o misc.o misc_dialogs.o mkdir_dialog.o protocols.o rename_dialog.o rfc959.o rfc2068.o ssh.o transfer_gui.o view_dialog.o -L/usr/X11R6/lib -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lgtk12 -lgdk12 -L/usr/local/lib -Wl,-E -lgmodule12 -lglib12 -lintl -lxpg4 -lXext -lX11 -lm -lintl -pthread file_transfer.o: In function `transfer_files': file_transfer.o(.text+0x1a49): undefined reference to `__pthread_detach' file_transfer.o: In function `get_status': file_transfer.o(.text+0x2123): undefined reference to `__pthread_select' ftp.o: In function `ftp_list_files': ftp.o(.text+0x852): undefined reference to `__pthread_sleep' misc.o: In function `file_countlf': misc.o(.text+0x61b): undefined reference to `__pthread_read' protocols.o: In function `gftp_get_next_file_chunk': protocols.o(.text+0x567): undefined reference to `__pthread_select' protocols.o(.text+0x5ad): undefined reference to `__pthread_read' protocols.o: In function `gftp_put_next_file_chunk': protocols.o(.text+0x6e2): undefined reference to `__pthread_select' protocols.o(.text+0x730): undefined reference to `__pthread_write' rfc959.o: In function `rfc959_connect': rfc959.o(.text+0x417): undefined reference to `__pthread_connect' rfc959.o: In function `rfc959_data_connection_new': rfc959.o(.text+0x1590): undefined reference to `__pthread_connect' rfc959.o: In function `rfc959_accept_active_connection': rfc959.o(.text+0x17cf): undefined reference to `__pthread_accept' rfc2068.o: In function `rfc2068_connect': rfc2068.o(.text+0x3b4): undefined reference to `__pthread_connect' ssh.o: In function `ssh_connect': ssh.o(.text+0x295): undefined reference to `__pthread_fork' ssh.o(.text+0x345): undefined reference to `__pthread_write' ssh.o(.text+0x376): undefined reference to `__pthread_write' ssh.o(.text+0x387): undefined reference to `__pthread_write' ssh.o: In function `start_login_sequence': ssh.o(.text+0x5fc): undefined reference to `__pthread_read' ssh.o(.text+0x654): undefined reference to `__pthread_select' ssh.o(.text+0x678): undefined reference to `__pthread_read' ssh.o(.text+0x835): undefined reference to `__pthread_write' ssh.o(.text+0x848): undefined reference to `__pthread_write' transfer_gui.o: In function `check_done_process': transfer_gui.o(.text+0x9ff): undefined reference to `__pthread_waitpid' view_dialog.o: In function `fork_process': view_dialog.o(.text+0xa21): undefined reference to `__pthread_fork' *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/ftp/gftp/work/gftp-2.0.7b/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/ftp/gftp/work/gftp-2.0.7b. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/ftp/gftp/work/gftp-2.0.7b. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/ftp/gftp. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/ftp/gftp. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/ports/ftp/gftp. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 10:17:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hecubus.mx (CC2-1242.charter-stl.com [24.217.116.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EAC237B71B for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:17:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: (from ajh3@localhost) by hecubus.mx (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f24IH8J08705 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:17:08 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ajh3) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:17:08 -0600 From: Andrew Hesford To: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: Version Numbering Message-ID: <20010304121708.A8682@cec.wustl.edu> References: <3AA27C32.C85E47FE@math.missouri.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AA27C32.C85E47FE@math.missouri.edu>; from stephen@math.missouri.edu on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 11:32:34AM -0600 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes, I was making a joke, and you're the only one who realized this. This is the last time I post humor on -stable. On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 11:32:34AM -0600, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > I think that Andrew was just having fun. -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 10:37:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEABC37B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:37:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id KAA07401; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:37:32 -0800 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda07399; Sun Mar 4 10:37:19 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f24IbEJ57025; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:37:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdy57023; Sun Mar 4 10:36:25 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f24IaOP09560; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:36:24 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103041836.f24IaOP09560@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdFf9555; Sun Mar 4 10:36:02 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: Andrew Hesford Cc: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: Version Numbering In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 04 Mar 2001 12:17:08 CST." <20010304121708.A8682@cec.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 10:36:02 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20010304121708.A8682@cec.wustl.edu>, Andrew Hesford writes: > Yes, I was making a joke, and you're the only one who realized this. > > This is the last time I post humor on -stable. It doesn't matter whether you meant it as a joke or not. This would have become a number of threads with a over a hundred messages lasting two weeks. While we're this close to a release I need to read everything so I can avoid code that could potentially break my systems yet participate by testing on my less critical systems. Storms of email with useless chatter makes it more difficult, as someone might say something useful in a thread started as a joke. Otherwise I might miss the one gem that might save me hours of work. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC > > On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 11:32:34AM -0600, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote: > > I think that Andrew was just having fun. > -- > Andrew Hesford > ajh3@chmod.ath.cx > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 10:50:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com [24.6.21.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E615737B719 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 10:50:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from conrads@cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f24IsDN39474; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:54:13 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from conrads) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010304200311.B56818@laa.zp.ua> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 12:54:13 -0600 (CST) From: Conrad Sabatier To: "Alexandr A. Listopad" Subject: Re: buildworld failure (3-4-2001 cvsup) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 04-Mar-01 Alexandr A. Listopad wrote: > > but after patch src/Makefile.inc1 problem still here: > > ===> libdevstat > rm -f .depend > mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/src/lib/libdevstat > -I/usr/src/lib/libdevstat/../../sys -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include > /usr/src/lib/libdevstat/devstat.c > cd /usr/src/lib/libdevstat; make _EXTRADEPEND > ===> libdisk > make: don't know how to make dkcksum.c. Stop Same here. Fix one thing, break another. :-) ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Conrad Sabatier Date: 04-Mar-01 Time: 12:52:54 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 11: 0:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hq1.tyfon.net (hq1.tyfon.net [217.27.162.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1BEF37B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:00:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dl@tyfon.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hq1.tyfon.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0001C7DB; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:00:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hq1.tyfon.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9331C5C9; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:00:13 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:00:12 +0100 (CET) From: Dan Larsson To: Galen Sampson Cc: Subject: Re: mpd-netgraph In-Reply-To: <001901c0a37c$9e664ab0$0200000a@windows> Message-ID: Organization: Tyfon Svenska AB X-NCC-NIC: DL1999-RIPE X-NCC-RegID: se.tyfon MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by hq1.tyfon.net Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This has less to do with stable than net, please retry your question to freebsd-net@freebsd.org Regards +------ Dan Larsson | Tel: +46 8 550 120 21 Tyfon Svenska AB | Fax: +46 8 550 120 02 GPG and PGP keys | finger dl@hq1.tyfon.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 11: 1:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mother.ludd.luth.se (mother.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAB9E37B728 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:01:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pantzer@ludd.luth.se) Received: from speedy.ludd.luth.se (speedy.ludd.luth.se [130.240.16.164]) by mother.ludd.luth.se (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA16297; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:00:58 +0100 (MET) Message-Id: <200103041900.UAA16297@mother.ludd.luth.se> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Tom Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: major resolver problems in -STABLE In-Reply-To: Message from Tom of "Sun, 04 Mar 2001 09:26:14 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 20:00:43 +0100 From: Mattias Pantzare Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > = > On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Mattias Pantzare wrote: > = > > No, that is simply not true. hostname is _not_ related to DNS. DNS na= mes = > > IP adresses, an IP adress names a interface, not a host. > > = > > You can set hostname to whatever you think looks nice. > > = > > If you have applications that depend on hostname beeing a FQDN then t= hey are = > > broken. > = > No. "hostname" should be resolvable. Lots of applications want this= > (ie. sendmail). Then sendmail is broken (or misconfigured). But you are only partly right= , = sendmail uses hostname as the name of the sending computer and will add t= he = domainname if you leave it out of hostname. Sendmail will work even if th= e = hostname is totaly wrong, but your e-mails may be rejected fr=E5n the oth= er end. I have a lot of systems that do not have a FQDN, but a = resolvable name, that is a name that exists in the DNS domain they are pa= rt = of. I have not found a program that breaks because of that. But I have a trick question for you. What shoud I set as hostname if I ha= ve a = mobile computer that will have diffrent IP-adresses at diffrent times dur= ing a = session? And those are in diffrent DNS domains? And it is not connected t= o the = network when I turn it on? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 11: 2:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hall.mail.mindspring.net (hall.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BD3937B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:02:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mvh@ix.netcom.com) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (user-2inist8.dialup.mindspring.com [165.121.115.168]) by hall.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA13150; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:01:57 -0500 (EST) Received: by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1F5C0E6B0A; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:01:47 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Harding To: tom@uniserve.com Cc: ajh3@chmod.ath.cx, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-reply-to: (message from Tom on Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:28:07 -0800 (PST)) Subject: Re: Version Numbering References: Message-Id: <20010304190147.1F5C0E6B0A@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:01:47 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Let's call it "FreeBSD 2000" so it sounds futuristic. Oh... Sorry. :) - Mike H. Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:28:07 -0800 (PST) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@athena.uniserve.ca Cc: FreeBSD-stable Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Andrew Hesford wrote: > What with all the version inflation going on in the Linux world, I have > an idea for FreeBSD. > > Forget 4.3-STABLE. Skip to 4.4. And rather than calling it FreeBSD > 4.4-STABLE, call it 4.4FreeBSD. That way, we can show off the roots of > FreeBSD and make it sound cool, too! This discussion already occured over a year ago. Use the archive. > Or, we can stop people from asking, "Why is RedHat in version 7, > Mandrake almost in version 8, and FreeBSD only in 4?" (assuming RedHat > users even know what FreeBSD is). Just call the next release FreeBSD > 10.3-STABLE or FreeBSD 2001-STABLE. Are people seriously fooled by version numbers? I've never seen anyone on this list ask why the version number wasn't bigger. > -- > Andrew Hesford > ajh3@chmod.ath.cx Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 11: 4:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD4B37B71A for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:04:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp (fcage [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f24J4Hg37495; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:04:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20010304140342.01572c58@marble.sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@marble.sentex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 14:04:16 -0500 To: Conrad Sabatier , "Alexandr A. Listopad" From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: buildworld failure (3-4-2001 cvsup) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <20010304200311.B56818@laa.zp.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Ryan pointed out, >On 03/04/01, mike ryan wrote: > > On 03/04/01, David E. O'Brien wrote: > > > obrien 2001/03/04 05:22:40 PST > > > > > > Modified files: (Branch: RELENG_4) > > > sbin/disklabel Makefile disklabel.8 disklabel.c > > > Removed files: (Branch: RELENG_4) > > > sbin/disklabel dkcksum.c > > > Log: > > > MFC: disklabel.8 rev 1.25, disklabel.c rev 1.3{3,5} > > > * Allow for easier configuration when using disklabel. > > > (ie, allow use of meg and gig to specify size) > > > * Turn dkcksum() into an __inline function. > > > > rev 1.29 of src/lib/libdisk/Makefile needs to be MFC-ed as well... > >ahem. and rev 1.7 of src/sbin/newfs/Makefile and, presumably, 1.54 >of src/sys/sys/disklabel.h. ---Mike At 12:54 PM 3/4/2001 -0600, Conrad Sabatier wrote: >On 04-Mar-01 Alexandr A. Listopad wrote: > > > > but after patch src/Makefile.inc1 problem still here: > > > > ===> libdevstat > > rm -f .depend > > mkdep -f .depend -a -I/usr/src/lib/libdevstat > > -I/usr/src/lib/libdevstat/../../sys -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include > > /usr/src/lib/libdevstat/devstat.c > > cd /usr/src/lib/libdevstat; make _EXTRADEPEND > > ===> libdisk > > make: don't know how to make dkcksum.c. Stop > >Same here. > >Fix one thing, break another. :-) > >---------------------------------- >E-Mail: Conrad Sabatier >Date: 04-Mar-01 >Time: 12:52:54 > >This message was sent by XFMail >---------------------------------- > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 11:15: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from InterJet.dellroad.org (adsl-63-194-81-26.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [63.194.81.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE62637B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:15:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archie@dellroad.org) Received: from curve.dellroad.org (curve.dellroad.org [10.1.1.30]) by InterJet.dellroad.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA42978 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:14:38 -0800 (PST) Received: (from archie@localhost) by curve.dellroad.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f24JEcV16404 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:14:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from archie) From: Archie Cobbs Message-Id: <200103041914.f24JEcV16404@curve.dellroad.org> Subject: Linux netscape port install problem To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:14:38 -0800 (PST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL88 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just a heads up in case this could affect 4.3-REL.. My apologies if this has already been fixed. I built a system recently based on the 4.2-20010219-STABLE snapshot. During installation the linux-netscape-communicator-4.76 port was added.. but it doesn't work: $ netscape ELF interpreter /lib/ld-linux.so.2 not found Abort Seems like a ${PREFIX} problem of some kind. -Archie __________________________________________________________________________ Archie Cobbs * Packet Design * http://www.packetdesign.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 11:37:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from c007.snv.cp.net (c007-h000.c007.snv.cp.net [209.228.33.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AD44D37B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:37:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from otterr@telocity.com) Received: (cpmta 28326 invoked from network); 4 Mar 2001 11:37:42 -0800 Received: from dsl-216-227-91-85.telocity.com (HELO zoso) (216.227.91.85) by smtp.telocity.com (209.228.33.206) with SMTP; 4 Mar 2001 11:37:42 -0800 X-Sent: 4 Mar 2001 19:37:42 GMT From: "Otter" To: "'Mike Harding'" Cc: Subject: RE: Version Numbering Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:26:55 -0500 Message-ID: <000601c0a4e1$1365a800$1401a8c0@zoso> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20010304190147.1F5C0E6B0A@netcom1.netcom.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG futuristic? uummm... wasn't 2000 last year? can we please kill this thread now? -Otter > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mike Harding > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 2:02 PM > To: tom@uniserve.com > Cc: ajh3@chmod.ath.cx; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Subject: Re: Version Numbering > > > > Let's call it "FreeBSD 2000" so it sounds futuristic. > > Oh... Sorry. :) > > - Mike H. > > Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:28:07 -0800 (PST) > From: Tom > X-Sender: tom@athena.uniserve.ca > Cc: FreeBSD-stable > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Precedence: bulk > > > On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Andrew Hesford wrote: > > > What with all the version inflation going on in the > Linux world, I have > > an idea for FreeBSD. > > > > Forget 4.3-STABLE. Skip to 4.4. And rather than calling > it FreeBSD > > 4.4-STABLE, call it 4.4FreeBSD. That way, we can show > off the roots of > > FreeBSD and make it sound cool, too! > > This discussion already occured over a year ago. Use > the archive. > > > Or, we can stop people from asking, "Why is RedHat in version 7, > > Mandrake almost in version 8, and FreeBSD only in 4?" > (assuming RedHat > > users even know what FreeBSD is). Just call the next > release FreeBSD > > 10.3-STABLE or FreeBSD 2001-STABLE. > > Are people seriously fooled by version numbers? I've > never seen anyone > on this list ask why the version number wasn't bigger. > > > -- > > Andrew Hesford > > ajh3@chmod.ath.cx > > > Tom > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 11:52:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com [207.113.159.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C34C837B71A for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:52:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from imap.gv.tsc.tdk.com (imap.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.198]) by gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id LAA08969; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:52:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.194]) by imap.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA62077; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:52:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Don.Lewis@tsc.tdk.com) Received: (from gdonl@localhost) by salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id LAA27955; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:52:40 -0800 (PST) From: Don Lewis Message-Id: <200103041952.LAA27955@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:52:39 -0800 In-Reply-To: <20010304012338.A52971@pit.databus.com> References: <20010303203733.A49750@palomine.net> <200103040211.SAA24825@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> <20010303211958.A50525@palomine.net> <200103040230.SAA25152@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> <20010304012338.A52971@pit.databus.com> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(5) 10/07/98) To: Barney Wolff , Don Lewis Subject: Re: Did ipfw fwd just break? Cc: Chris Johnson , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mar 4, 1:23am, Barney Wolff wrote: } Subject: Re: Did ipfw fwd just break? } I question whether this complexity is necessary. The effect of the } tranparent proxying could just as well have been achieved by } translating to an alias address that is assigned to the interface, } rather than to localhost, right? Simpler is better, in the kernel. Correct, but most of this patch fixes other breakage. Restoring ipfw fwd to its former functionality just required adding one term to the expression used to set the checkif variable. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 11:53:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com [24.6.21.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9BA437B719 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 11:53:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from conrads@cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f24JvQf83619 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:57:26 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from conrads) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010304200311.B56818@laa.zp.ua> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 13:57:25 -0600 (CST) From: Conrad Sabatier To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildworld failure (3-4-2001 cvsup) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 04-Mar-01 Alexandr A. Listopad wrote: > > but after patch src/Makefile.inc1 problem still here: > > ===> libdisk > make: don't know how to make dkcksum.c. Stop > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error Well, this last problem is fixed easily enough. Just delete dkcksum.c from the SRCS= line in /usr/src/lib/libdisk/Makefile *and* in /usr/src/sbin/disklabel/Makefile. ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Conrad Sabatier Date: 04-Mar-01 Time: 13:55:46 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 12:11:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA0537B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:11:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f24KApH21797; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:10:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: ajh3@chmod.ath.cx Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Version Numbering In-Reply-To: <20010304103449.A8042@cec.wustl.edu> References: <20010304103449.A8042@cec.wustl.edu> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010304121051G.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 12:10:51 -0800 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thank you for your suggestion. As much as we all like to be "cool", however, we're driven more by the demands of software engineering. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 12:13:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com [24.6.21.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8B3237B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:13:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from conrads@cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f24KHWU03292 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:17:32 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from conrads) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 14:17:32 -0600 (CST) From: Conrad Sabatier To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildworld failure (3-4-2001 cvsup) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 04-Mar-01 Conrad Sabatier wrote: > Well, this last problem is fixed easily enough. Just delete dkcksum.c from > the SRCS= line in /usr/src/lib/libdisk/Makefile *and* > in /usr/src/sbin/disklabel/Makefile. Aw, foobar. Disregard the above. Causes unresolved references to dkcksum in disklabel. :-( Knew it was too easy to be true. :-) ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Conrad Sabatier Date: 04-Mar-01 Time: 14:15:55 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 12:17:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.ZSEA.zp.ua (ZSEA.zp.ua [212.8.40.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0FC237B71B for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:17:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from laa@laa.zp.ua) Received: (from laa@localhost) by mx1.ZSEA.zp.ua (8.x.x/8.x.x) with œ id f24KGlu00684; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:16:47 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from laa@laa.zp.ua)œ Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:16:47 +0200 From: "Alexandr A. Listopad" To: Conrad Sabatier Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildworld failure (3-4-2001 cvsup) Message-ID: <20010304221647.A487@laa.zp.ua> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: ; from conrads@home.com on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 02:17:32PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 02:17:32PM -0600, Conrad Sabatier wrote: > > On 04-Mar-01 Conrad Sabatier wrote: > > Well, this last problem is fixed easily enough. Just delete dkcksum.c from > > the SRCS= line in /usr/src/lib/libdisk/Makefile *and* > > in /usr/src/sbin/disklabel/Makefile. > > Aw, foobar. Disregard the above. Causes unresolved references > to dkcksum in disklabel. :-( there are need to MFC full disklabel commit from -CURRENT, with libdisk and newfs changes. Uh, I'm waiting for it... ;{ -- Laa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 12:28:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com [24.0.95.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C83ED37B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:28:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from graywane@home.com) Received: from cg392862-a.adubn1.nj.home.com ([65.2.79.221]) by femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010304202819.MAZD25644.femail8.sdc1.sfba.home.com@cg392862-a.adubn1.nj.home.com> for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 12:28:19 -0800 Received: (from graywane@localhost) by cg392862-a.adubn1.nj.home.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f24KSIV40133 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:28:18 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from graywane) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:28:17 -0500 From: Graywane To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Nothing using pthreads will compile. Message-ID: <20010304152817.A40121@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A 4.2-STABLE system compiled last week had no thread problems. A 4.2-STABLE system compiled with sources from late friday night (March 2, 2001) now fails to link any threaded port (qt22, gftp, etc). Is anyone else experiencing this problem? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 13:12:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59F2B37B71A for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:12:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f24LCYJ25266; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:12:34 -0600 (CST) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:12:34 -0600 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Rich Wales Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Silo overflows Message-ID: <20010304151234.A19983@futuresouth.com> References: <20010304065203.30478.richw@wyattearp.stanford.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010304065203.30478.richw@wyattearp.stanford.edu>; from richw@webcom.com on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 11:14:25PM -0800 X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 11:14:25PM -0800, a little birdie told me that Rich Wales remarked > I'm running 4.2-RELEASE on an 800-MHz Athlon system. One of the > serial ports on this machine is connected to the serial console port > on a second machine (my home firewall/bridge, running 4.2-STABLE). > > The firewall's serial console speed is set to 115200. The builtin > serial ports on both machines are 16550A's. > > I'm getting lots and lots of silo overflows on the Athlon when I > generate a large amount of output from the firewall (e.g., if I do > "ls -ls", the output is badly garbled, and I get kernel messages on > the Athlon about silo overflows). FWIW, I'm seeing the same thing on my main system (dual PPro 200, mid-Jan -CURRENT snap) when I have my laptop hooked up (115200 SLIP), though the laptop (a lowly P133) doesn't get any overflows that I've seen. I have a hard time believing the PPro doesn't have enough grunt to push a high-power 12k/sec data stream. I've been suspecting some of the changes in -CURRENT and interrupt handling on SMP, and I get an overflow maybe every 10 or 20 seconds under full-throttle data pushing, so I haven't worried about it too much. Back under 2.2-STABLE and/or 3.0-CURRENT I remember having some hacks on the sio driver that made the problem much rarer, but I think as 3.0 became -STABLE something changed and they stopped being meaningful. -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Unix Systems Administrator | fullermd@futuresouth.com Specializing in FreeBSD | http://www.over-yonder.net/ "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 13:19:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AB9837B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:19:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f24LJFL46168; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:19:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:19:14 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: "Alexandr A. Listopad" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: failed to buildworld... (make: don't know how to make build-tools. Stop) Message-ID: <20010304131914.B44533@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010304172456.B10906@laa.zp.ua> <20010304174447.C10906@laa.zp.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010304174447.C10906@laa.zp.ua>; from laa@laa.zp.ua on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 05:44:47PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 05:44:47PM +0200, Alexandr A. Listopad wrote: > > cd /usr/src/bin/csh; make build-tools > > make: don't know how to make build-tools. Stop ... > seems wrong src/Makefile.inc1 rev. 1.141.2.22: Nope. Forgot to commit the MFC in src/bin/csh -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 13:26:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sasami.jurai.net (sasami.jurai.net [64.0.106.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 049B137B719 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:26:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from winter@jurai.net) Received: from localhost (winter@localhost) by sasami.jurai.net (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id QAA15192; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:26:09 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:26:09 -0500 (EST) From: "Matthew N. Dodd" To: Mike Tancsa Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems with quotas on STABLE In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20010226064702.03756c60@marble.sentex.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Mike Tancsa wrote: > Not sure how long this problem has been around, but at bootup time the > quota file creation process always seems to fail for me. If I kill the file > and let it start from scratch, same problem as if I let it update it after > a reboot. ... > quotacheck: /home/quota.user: seek failed: File too large So hunt down the files/directories on that filesystem that have really high UID/GID numbers and change them to something sane. The quota file format includes a record for every UID/GID on the system between the smallest and the largest. -- | Matthew N. Dodd | '78 Datsun 280Z | '75 Volvo 164E | FreeBSD/NetBSD | | winter@jurai.net | 2 x '84 Volvo 245DL | ix86,sparc,pmax | | http://www.jurai.net/~winter | This Space For Rent | ISO8802.5 4ever | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 13:36:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (sproxy.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 69BEB37B71A for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:36:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from turbo23@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 10004 invoked by uid 0); 4 Mar 2001 21:36:42 -0000 Received: from pop-be-8-2-dialup-201.freesurf.ch (HELO turbo.freeos-ch) (194.230.125.201) by mail.gmx.net (mp012-rz3) with SMTP; 4 Mar 2001 21:36:42 -0000 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:39:02 +0100 From: turbo23 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: broken cvs update X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.4.61 (GTK+ 1.2.8; FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE; i386) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010304213645.69BEB37B71A@hub.freebsd.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Well it looks today there are a lot of cvs updates (Freebsd 4.2-stable) I found a new error during the make buildworld after severals cvs updates today. I did: cd /usr/obj;chflags -R noschg *;rm -r * followed by a normal make buildorld ln -sf libssl.so.1 /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libssl.so ===> libssh cd /usr/src/kerberosIV/lib; make depend; make all; make install ===> libroken make: don't know how to make strcollect.c. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src/kerberosIV/lib. i guess kris or markm have to fix this :) regards thomas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 13:39: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com [24.6.21.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 684E137B718; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:39:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from conrads@cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f24Lgpx62481; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:42:51 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from conrads) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010304131914.B44533@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 15:42:51 -0600 (CST) From: Conrad Sabatier To: "David O'Brien" Subject: Re: failed to buildworld... (make: don't know how to make build- Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "Alexandr A. Listopad" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 04-Mar-01 David O'Brien wrote: > On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 05:44:47PM +0200, Alexandr A. Listopad wrote: >> > cd /usr/src/bin/csh; make build-tools >> > make: don't know how to make build-tools. Stop > ... >> seems wrong src/Makefile.inc1 rev. 1.141.2.22: > > Nope. Forgot to commit the MFC in src/bin/csh Will the libdisk, etc. fixes be merged in anytime soon? Make buildworld is still broken. ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Conrad Sabatier Date: 04-Mar-01 Time: 15:42:12 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 13:49: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from level3.dynacom.net (level3.dynacom.net [206.107.213.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CA28237B71A for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 13:48:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: (qmail 4883 invoked by uid 0); 4 Mar 2001 21:48:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO urx.com) (206.159.132.160) by mail.urx.com with SMTP; 4 Mar 2001 21:48:55 -0000 Message-ID: <3AA2B846.974F05E2@urx.com> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 13:48:54 -0800 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Nik Clayton Cc: "Daniel C. Sobral" , nickhead@folino.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: KERNCONF instead of KERNEL? References: <20010302134531.26192.qmail@www1.nameplanet.com> <3A9FAF6B.29CC5157@newsguy.com> <20010304115649.A420@canyon.nothing-going-on.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nik Clayton wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 02, 2001 at 11:34:19PM +0900, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: > > Here is the order suggested and the why: > > > > 1) make buildworld -- because the new kernel may depend on new tools > > (config(8) is a common example, but no the only one). > > 2) make buildkernel -- some programs may depend on new syscalls, so > > build the kernel before installing the world. > > 3) make installkernel -- install a new kernel (the copy of the old one > > is preserved) > > 4) reboot single user -- make sure the new kernel works > > 5) mount filesystems, make installworld -- install the rest of the world > > 6) mergemaster -- update /etc -- the new userland tools may require new > > /etc scripts and configuration files. > > I think the attached diff to the Handbook brings it up to date with > reality. I've also attached the generated HTML file, for those of you > that don't want to build the docs. Comments? Yes, there are several things that I think are basically wrong. On the -j4 option, what was -current is now 4.0-release or later. On a fast uniprocessor system, using -j4 on the make actually causes the buildworld to run 10% or more longer by the clock. Your user and system time may be shorter but the build takes forever. You are adding overhead to access I/O that the HD's can't provide and the cpu is left in an idle state waiting for I/O. This becomes especially true on large single HD's. Turning on softupdates helps. I have a AMD Thunderbird 900 with 256MB of PC-133 memory that I tried various combinations on. I added ATA-100 HD's until I had reasonable build times. I eventually ended up with 3 and had each on its own controller. I haven't tried fast scsi yet but I think the majority of the new users are building systems around IDE drives and you can see the slowdown when you use -jx with x >= 2. It isn't bad for people running setiathome because it will continue to use 40% or more of the cpu and doesn't interfere. When the percentage reported by time goes over 100%, which it can for multiprocessor systems, setiathome didn't get much time. That data also wasn't included in my table. The only system that can use -j4 is a dual headed system (2-P-III 866's with 256MB of PC-133) with the source on a 2-HD HPT-370 raid-0 array. The system has 3-30GB Maxtor ATA-100 HD's all on different controllers. The variation in build time ran from 1:21 to 34 minutes with softupdates and /usr/src on the raid-0 array. If I tee the output from the build to a file, it only slows the build down to 35:xx minutes. Some entries from my build times log are: buildworld, softupdates, 1-HD 1597.238u 629.123s 47:52.34 77.5% 1227+1393k 42713+11617io 1575pf+0w raid-0 for /usr/obj but no softupdates. 1599.347u 628.302s 1:21:36.28 45.4% 1230+1395k 44554+138574io 1828pf+0w raid-0 (64k) for /usr/src, -j4, and softupdates for everything but / 1655.441u 730.090s 34:16.34 116.0% 1210+1380k 47507+3918io 1881pf+0w make buildworld with tee'ed logging and current setup from above 1665.892u 702.004s 35:14.42 111.9% 1211+1387k 51575+4140io 1918pf+0 The chflag noschg isn't needed on 4.2. I don't know when that was changed but you don't have to use it to rm -rf * files in /usr/obj. Of course, if you have a kern_secure level set in 4.2, you can't noschg anything from multi-user mode and the installkernel will die trying to mv the kernel's around. You have to be running in single user mode to get around the kern_secure level setting. Kent > > N > -- > FreeBSD: The Power to Serve http://www.freebsd.org/ > FreeBSD Documentation Project http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/ > > --- 15B8 3FFC DDB4 34B0 AA5F 94B7 93A8 0764 2C37 E375 --- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Name: makeworld.html > makeworld.html Type: Hypertext Markup Language (text/html) > Encoding: quoted-printable > > Name: mw.diff > mw.diff Type: Plain Text (text/plain) > Encoding: quoted-printable > > Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 14:20:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.texas.net (tcnet22-063.austin.texas.net [209.99.97.63]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9C837B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:20:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dread@mail.texas.net) Received: (from dread@localhost) by mail.texas.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f24MHZ635040; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:17:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dread) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 16:02:38 -0600 (CST) From: Don Read To: Martti Kuparinen Subject: RE: Different output from pkg_version Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 04-Mar-01 Martti Kuparinen wrote: > Hi! > > Does anyone know a reason for the difference in the following outputs: > > ROOT ws3:~> pkg_version -v | grep bash > bash-2.04 = up-to-date with port > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ROOT server:~> pkg_version -v | grep bash > bash-2.04 * multiple versions (index has 1.14.7,2.04) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ pkg_version is telling you that the INDEX does not match exactly what's installed. If you want out of date ports, use pkg_version -vl"<" Regards, -- Don Read dread@texas.net -- If you are going to sin, sin against God, not the bureaucracy. God will forgive you but the bureaucrats won't. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 14:31:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freesbee.wheel.dk (freesbee.wheel.dk [193.162.159.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACF9F37B71A for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:31:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jesper@skriver.dk) Received: by freesbee.wheel.dk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 27B705D5C; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:31:40 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:31:40 +0100 From: Jesper Skriver To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu Cc: John Polstra , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is RhostsRSAAuthentication broken? Message-ID: <20010304233140.B95599@skriver.dk> References: <20010303151646.N89396@rfx-216-196-73-168.users.reflex> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010303151646.N89396@rfx-216-196-73-168.users.reflex>; from cjclark@reflexnet.net on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 03:16:46PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 03:16:46PM -0800, Crist J. Clark wrote: > On Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 01:38:07PM -0800, John Polstra wrote: > > Is ssh's RhostsRSAAuthentication using the ~/.shosts file broken in > > -stable? On the server, OpenSSH on a FreeBSD-stable machine from Jan > > 30, /etc/ssh/sshd_config contains: > > > > IgnoreRhosts no > > IgnoreUserKnownHosts no > > RhostsRSAAuthentication yes > > > > and the ~/.shosts file is set up correctly for the host+user that > > wants to connect. Also, I have the client's public host key (RSA) in > > both ~/.ssh/known_hosts and /etc/ssh/ssh_known_hosts on the server > > machine. > > > > On the client side, ~/.ssh/config contains: > > > > Host server.example.com > > RhostsRSAAuthentication yes > > > > When the client is OpenSSH on a FreeBSD-stable machine, "slogin -v > > server.example.com" shows no attempt at all by the client to use > > RhostsRSAAuthentication. > > Is /usr/bin/ssh setuid root on the client? It no longer is by > default. Do it by hand or enable, > > # To enable installing ssh(1) with the setuid bit turned on > ENABLE_SUID_SSH= true > > In your /etc/make.conf. This also just bit me - perhaps a note in /usr/src/UPDATING ?? /Jesper -- Jesper Skriver, jesper(at)skriver(dot)dk - CCIE #5456 Work: Network manager @ AS3292 (Tele Danmark DataNetworks) Private: FreeBSD committer @ AS2109 (A much smaller network ;-) One Unix to rule them all, One Resolver to find them, One IP to bring them all and in the zone to bind them. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 14:40: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org (ppp72-net1-idf3-bas1.isdnet.net [195.154.52.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E759937B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 14:39:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org) Received: by melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F017124D03; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:39:56 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:39:56 +0100 From: Thomas Quinot To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Userland PPP hanging instead of terminating Message-ID: <20010304233956.A21707@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> Reply-To: thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am using pptpclient with the userland PPP daemon, and have been occasionally encountering the following situation: * for some reason, the data link layer (here, a PPTP tunnel) goes down; * ppp closes the LCP... * ...but the PPP process hangs indefinitely rather than terminating. Here is an excerpt of ppp.log: Mar 4 22:40:14 melusine ppp[19179]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Disconnected! Mar 4 22:40:14 melusine ppp[19179]: tun0: Phase: deflink: Connect time: 105 sec s: 931 octets in, 1214 octets out Mar 4 22:40:14 melusine ppp[19179]: tun0: Phase: deflink: : 13 packets in, 38 p ackets out Mar 4 22:40:14 melusine ppp[19179]: tun0: Phase: total 20 bytes/sec, peak 97 b ytes/sec on Sun Mar 4 22:40:14 2001 Mar 4 22:40:14 melusine ppp[19179]: tun0: Phase: deflink: lcp -> closed Mar 4 22:40:14 melusine ppp[19179]: tun0: Phase: bundle: Dead The next line should be a tun0: Phase: PPP Terminated (normal). but this does not occur, and pid 19179 is hanging, blocked in a tunread that won't return. Is this a known problem? I have observed this behaviour on a 4.2-STABLE system. Thomas. -- Thomas.Quinot@Cuivre.FR.EU.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 15:24:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70FB37B719 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:24:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6AFD266B09; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:24:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:24:38 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Conrad Sabatier Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildworld failure (3-4-2001 cvsup) Message-ID: <20010304152438.B38002@mollari.cthul.hu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="GRPZ8SYKNexpdSJ7" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from conrads@home.com on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 11:38:29AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --GRPZ8SYKNexpdSJ7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 11:38:29AM -0600, Conrad Sabatier wrote: > -------------------------------------------------------------- > >>> stage 2: build tools > -------------------------------------------------------------- > cd /usr/src; MAKEOBJDIRPREFIX=3D/usr/obj INSTALL=3D"sh /usr/src/tools/in= stall.sh"=20 > PATH=3D/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/sbin:/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/bin:/usr/= obj/usr/s > rc/i386/usr/games:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin make -f Makefile.inc1 > build-tools > cd /usr/src/bin/csh; make build-tools > make: don't know how to make build-tools. Stop > *** Error code 2 Just for the record, even though I posted about possible build failures these ones weren't my fault :-) They should be fixed soon. Kris --GRPZ8SYKNexpdSJ7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6os61Wry0BWjoQKURAlScAJ9Y25tuGEgFGUU6oPOtmz9f4acvewCgjlLW Poy0PgjEd36Hy5SHbIL8r+E= =W8Lj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --GRPZ8SYKNexpdSJ7-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 15:25:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C59137B718; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:25:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 569A866B09; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:25:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:25:29 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: turbo23 Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, markm@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: broken cvs update Message-ID: <20010304152529.C38002@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <20010304213645.69BEB37B71A@hub.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="eRtJSFbw+EEWtPj3" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010304213645.69BEB37B71A@hub.freebsd.org>; from turbo23@gmx.net on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 10:39:02PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --eRtJSFbw+EEWtPj3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mark, FYI: Kris On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 10:39:02PM +0100, turbo23 wrote: > Hello >=20 > Well it looks today there are a lot of cvs updates (Freebsd 4.2-stable)= =20 > I found a new error during the make buildworld after severals cvs updates > today. >=20 > I did: cd /usr/obj;chflags -R noschg *;rm -r * >=20 > followed by a normal make buildorld >=20 > ln -sf libssl.so.1 /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libssl.so > =3D=3D=3D> libssh > cd /usr/src/kerberosIV/lib; make depend; make all; make install > =3D=3D=3D> libroken > make: don't know how to make strcollect.c. Stop > *** Error code 2 >=20 > Stop in /usr/src/kerberosIV/lib. >=20 >=20 > i guess kris or markm have to fix this :) >=20 > regards=20 > thomas >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >=20 --eRtJSFbw+EEWtPj3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6os7oWry0BWjoQKURAg1fAKDx5oWeqR02j1c1XX1MCNDyLCE3/QCg45QO 4rtqnmDys09ek9eUc6LkX/Y= =PZwo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --eRtJSFbw+EEWtPj3-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 15:31:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from femail2.rdc1.on.home.com (femail2.rdc1.on.home.com [24.2.9.89]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5207937B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:31:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from willwong@samurai.com) Received: from magus ([24.114.209.187]) by femail2.rdc1.on.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with SMTP id <20010304233123.CIEV606.femail2.rdc1.on.home.com@magus> for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 15:31:23 -0800 Message-ID: <004601c0a503$4ef3a850$0300a8c0@magus> From: "William Wong" To: Subject: Keeping track of Changes? Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 18:31:59 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there, I'm just wondering how the developers keep track or what still needs to be merged from -CURRENT to -STABLE. Is it just version numbers on particular files? - Will To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 16: 2:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 664) id DDA8337B718; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:02:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:02:55 -0800 From: David O'Brien To: Conrad Sabatier Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "Alexandr A. Listopad" Subject: Re: failed to buildworld... (make: don't know how to make build- Message-ID: <20010304160255.A14915@hub.freebsd.org> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20010304131914.B44533@dragon.nuxi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from conrads@home.com on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 03:42:51PM -0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 03:42:51PM -0600, Conrad Sabatier wrote: > > Nope. Forgot to commit the MFC in src/bin/csh > > Will the libdisk, etc. fixes be merged in anytime soon? Make buildworld is > still broken. Still working on it. It would help if my -CURRENT NFS server would stop hanging... :-( It is now getting upgraded from -CURRENT to RELENG_4. So I'll have any buildworld problems fixed ASAP! -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 16:13:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 664) id 455BA37B719; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:13:12 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:13:12 -0800 From: David O'Brien To: "Alexandr A. Listopad" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildworld failure (3-4-2001 cvsup) Message-ID: <20010304161312.C14915@hub.freebsd.org> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20010304221647.A487@laa.zp.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010304221647.A487@laa.zp.ua>; from laa@laa.zp.ua on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 10:16:47PM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 10:16:47PM +0200, Alexandr A. Listopad wrote: > Uh, I'm waiting for it... ;{ To tell the truth, I would *HIGHLY* suggest that most users not even try to update their RELENG_4 -STABLE systems for the next 2-3 days. Right before a code freeze there is always a lot of commit activity. I would suggest that only those that are interested in debugging build problems (and suppling patches) be active right now. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) Disclaimer: Not speaking for FreeBSD, just expressing my own opinion. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 16:16:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nebula.cybercable.fr (d217.dhcp212-126.cybercable.fr [212.198.126.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD2F737B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:16:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mux@qualys.com) Received: (from mux@localhost) by nebula.cybercable.fr (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f250EhF02308; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:14:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from mux) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:14:43 +0100 From: Maxime Henrion To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: andrew@ugh.net.au Subject: Re: netstat problem Message-ID: <20010305011443.A376@nebula.cybercable.fr> References: <20010304123526.A348@nebula.cybercable.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from andrew@ugh.net.au on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 09:04:16AM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG andrew@ugh.net.au wrote: > > > On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Maxime Henrion wrote: > > > I didn't rebuild world, only the kernel, but I rebuilt netstat too to > > be sure it wasn't a kernel/userland sync problem even if /usr/src/UPDATING > > says nothing about this. > > did you rebuild libkvm before netstat? Now I did, and the output is still scrambled. Maxime -- Don't be fooled by cheap finnish imitations ; BSD is the One True Code Key fingerprint = F9B6 1D5A 4963 331C 88FC CA6A AB50 1EF2 8CBE 99D6 Public Key : http://www.epita.fr/~henrio_m/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 16:46:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A82637B718; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:46:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp (fcage [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f250keg37862; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:46:41 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20010304194554.01644f00@marble.sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@marble.sentex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 19:46:39 -0500 To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: buildworld failure (3-4-2001 cvsup) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20010304161312.C14915@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20010304221647.A487@laa.zp.ua> <20010304221647.A487@laa.zp.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Perhaps an "all clear" when you would like people to start testing what has been committed ? ---Mike At 04:13 PM 3/4/2001 -0800, David O'Brien wrote: >I would suggest that only those that are interested in debugging build >problems (and suppling patches) be active right now. > >-- >-- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) > Disclaimer: Not speaking for FreeBSD, just expressing my own opinion. > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 16:57:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F7CE37B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:57:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C9D9266B09; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:57:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:57:08 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: William Wong Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Keeping track of Changes? Message-ID: <20010304165708.A40747@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <004601c0a503$4ef3a850$0300a8c0@magus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="gKMricLos+KVdGMg" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <004601c0a503$4ef3a850$0300a8c0@magus>; from willwong@samurai.com on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 06:31:59PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 06:31:59PM -0500, William Wong wrote: > Hi there, >=20 > I'm just wondering how the developers keep track or what still needs to be > merged from -CURRENT to -STABLE. Is it just version numbers on particular > files? Well, it varies according to developer - but given the number of un-merged changes that I found in the tree last night the general answer might be "they don't" :-) Personally, I save my commit messages which I know I want to merge at some point in the future into a separate mfc folder, but another way is to do something like: cvs diff -kk -u -r RELENG_4 -r HEAD | more=20 and look through the output (this shows all of the differences between the two branches), then identify the commits giving rise to each of the unmerged changes and patch them across if they should be merged. This is how I did my big sweep last night (only covered about 1/2 the tree, if I get time tonight I'll do more of the rest) Kris --gKMricLos+KVdGMg Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6ouRkWry0BWjoQKURAnBQAJ9t9XPe6ezjT7NqVxYkxYoLlW6DQgCfULzv hn5eqDRTqaTwpnGUxyYuCs8= =GL3v -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --gKMricLos+KVdGMg-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 16:58:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F4B237B719 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:58:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EC75C66B09; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:58:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 16:58:49 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Maxime Henrion Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, andrew@ugh.net.au Subject: Re: netstat problem Message-ID: <20010304165849.B40747@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <20010304123526.A348@nebula.cybercable.fr> <20010305011443.A376@nebula.cybercable.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1LKvkjL3sHcu1TtY" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010305011443.A376@nebula.cybercable.fr>; from mux@qualys.com on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 01:14:43AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --1LKvkjL3sHcu1TtY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 01:14:43AM +0100, Maxime Henrion wrote: > andrew@ugh.net.au wrote: > >=20 > >=20 > > On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Maxime Henrion wrote: > >=20 > > > I didn't rebuild world, only the kernel, but I rebuilt netstat too to > > > be sure it wasn't a kernel/userland sync problem even if /usr/src/UPD= ATING > > > says nothing about this. > >=20 > > did you rebuild libkvm before netstat? > Now I did, and the output is still scrambled. UPDATING doesn't list these kinds of sync problems because it's expected they happen frequently. Always do a full buildworld with updated sources each time you build a new kernel with updated sources. Kris --1LKvkjL3sHcu1TtY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6ouTJWry0BWjoQKURAjefAJ9CGcmrA5gb+3P1It6jZypMjAUOSwCfc5mR ZNUDazouPRInvFjXXx8FzOs= =15YD -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1LKvkjL3sHcu1TtY-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 17: 7:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from veldy.net (w028.z064001117.msp-mn.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.117.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 317F137B718; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:07:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from cascade (cascade.veldy.net [192.168.0.1]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with SMTP id CFAA5BA3B; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:07:14 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <007101c0a510$85157690$0100a8c0@cascade> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: , "Alexandr A. Listopad" Cc: References: <20010304221647.A487@laa.zp.ua> <20010304161312.C14915@hub.freebsd.org> Subject: Re: buildworld failure (3-4-2001 cvsup) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:06:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What would be the best -- most stable (and secure) day to cvsup too? Feb 15th? Tom Veldhouse veldy@veldy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "David O'Brien" To: "Alexandr A. Listopad" Cc: Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 6:13 PM Subject: Re: buildworld failure (3-4-2001 cvsup) > On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 10:16:47PM +0200, Alexandr A. Listopad wrote: > > Uh, I'm waiting for it... ;{ > > To tell the truth, I would *HIGHLY* suggest that most users not even try > to update their RELENG_4 -STABLE systems for the next 2-3 days. Right > before a code freeze there is always a lot of commit activity. > > I would suggest that only those that are interested in debugging build > problems (and suppling patches) be active right now. > > -- > -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) > Disclaimer: Not speaking for FreeBSD, just expressing my own opinion. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 17:14:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D5C737B71B for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:14:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f251EYm30031; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:14:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:14:33 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Mike Tancsa Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildworld failure (3-4-2001 cvsup) Message-ID: <20010304171433.A30009@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010304221647.A487@laa.zp.ua> <20010304221647.A487@laa.zp.ua> <20010304161312.C14915@hub.freebsd.org> <4.2.2.20010304194554.01644f00@marble.sentex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20010304194554.01644f00@marble.sentex.net>; from mike@sentex.net on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 07:46:39PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 07:46:39PM -0500, Mike Tancsa wrote: > Perhaps an "all clear" when you would like people to start testing what has > been committed ? To repost the release schedule: March 05: Beginning of -stable branch code freeze March 10: FreeBSD 4.3-BETA March 20: FreeBSD 4.3-RC (RELEASE CANDIDATE) March 25: FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 17:28:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D15C37B719 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:28:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f251SXB05812; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:28:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:28:32 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Mike Tancsa Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildworld failure (3-4-2001 cvsup) Message-ID: <20010304172832.A3357@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <4.2.2.20010304194554.01644f00@marble.sentex.net> <20010304221647.A487@laa.zp.ua> <20010304221647.A487@laa.zp.ua> <20010304161312.C14915@hub.freebsd.org> <4.2.2.20010304194554.01644f00@marble.sentex.net> <20010304171433.A30009@dragon.nuxi.com> <4.2.2.20010304201734.01654da8@marble.sentex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4.2.2.20010304201734.01654da8@marble.sentex.net>; from mike@sentex.net on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 08:20:08PM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 08:20:08PM -0500, Mike Tancsa wrote: > At 05:14 PM 3/4/2001 -0800, David O'Brien wrote: > >On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 07:46:39PM -0500, Mike Tancsa wrote: > > > Perhaps an "all clear" when you would like people to start testing what > > has > > > been committed ? > > OK, so dont bother with tracking STABLE (unless you can provide patches) > until the 10th? March 6th, IMHO. But please see the disclaimer at the bottom. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) Disclaimer: Not speaking for FreeBSD, just expressing my own opinion. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 17:48:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from omahpop1.omah.uswest.net (omahpop1.omah.uswest.net [204.26.64.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8AB2937B719 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 17:48:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hey9811@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 83970 invoked by alias); 5 Mar 2001 01:48:08 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-stable@FreeBSD.ORG@fixme Received: (qmail 83965 invoked by uid 0); 5 Mar 2001 01:48:08 -0000 Received: from omah6400gw2poolc176.omah.uswest.net (HELO ?10.0.0.2?) (63.227.158.176) by omahpop1.omah.uswest.net with SMTP; 5 Mar 2001 01:48:08 -0000 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:44:21 -0600 (CST) From: Virtual Bob X-X-Sender: To: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: where's /usr/mdec?? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm trying to make a bootable floppy, and, well, docs left and right reference this /usr/mdec. Anyway, on my 3.5-stable, it's empty; and on my 4.2-stable /usr/mdec is totally absent. So exactly how do I get the contents to /usr/mdec? TIA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 18:22: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mass.dis.org (mass.dis.org [216.240.45.41]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D49137B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 18:22:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Received: from mass.dis.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mass.dis.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f252Noj26194; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 18:23:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from msmith@mass.dis.org) Message-Id: <200103050223.f252Noj26194@mass.dis.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.1.1 10/15/1999 To: Virtual Bob Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: where's /usr/mdec?? In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 04 Mar 2001 19:44:21 CST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 18:23:50 -0800 From: Mike Smith Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I'm trying to make a bootable floppy, and, well, docs left and right > reference this /usr/mdec. Anyway, on my 3.5-stable, it's empty; and on my > 4.2-stable /usr/mdec is totally absent. > > So exactly how do I get the contents to /usr/mdec? You don't. /usr/mdec has been deprecated for several years. What documentation are you reading that points you there? Most of what used to be there is now in /boot. -- ... every activity meets with opposition, everyone who acts has his rivals and unfortunately opponents also. But not because people want to be opponents, rather because the tasks and relationships force people to take different points of view. [Dr. Fritz Todt] V I C T O R Y N O T V E N G E A N C E To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 18:47:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hecubus.mx (CC2-1242.charter-stl.com [24.217.116.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5761937B719 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 18:47:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: (from ajh3@localhost) by hecubus.mx (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f252lde01852 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:47:39 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ajh3) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:47:39 -0600 From: Andrew Hesford To: FreeBSD-stable Subject: OpenSSH Message-ID: <20010304204739.A1833@cec.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Are we going to see the introduction of OpenSSH 2.5.1 into -STABLE any time soon? -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 18:59:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81DD737B719 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 18:59:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from spike.unixfreak.org (spike [192.168.2.4]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A2A83E09; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 18:59:35 -0800 (PST) To: Andrew Hesford Cc: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: OpenSSH In-Reply-To: <20010304204739.A1833@cec.wustl.edu>; from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx on "Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:47:39 -0600" Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 18:59:34 -0800 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010305025935.2A2A83E09@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andrew Hesford writes: > Are we going to see the introduction of OpenSSH 2.5.1 into -STABLE any > time soon? Not likely, considering it isn't even in -current yet. There are some alleged problems with it, especially when interacting with ssh.com implementations. I say alleged because while I've seen many complaints about this on the development list, I've never actually seen them myself. Regardless of the last part of the above, however, there's almost no chance you'll see it in 4.3-RELEASE. Such things need time to settle in -current before they're merged. Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 19:12:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from omahpop1.omah.uswest.net (omahpop1.omah.uswest.net [204.26.64.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6C48237B71A for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:12:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hey9811@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 89727 invoked by alias); 5 Mar 2001 03:12:16 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-stable@FreeBSD.ORG@fixme Received: (qmail 89717 invoked by uid 0); 5 Mar 2001 03:12:15 -0000 Received: from omah6400gw2poolc176.omah.uswest.net (HELO ?10.0.0.2?) (63.227.158.176) by omahpop1.omah.uswest.net with SMTP; 5 Mar 2001 03:12:15 -0000 Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:08:36 -0600 (CST) From: Virtual Bob X-X-Sender: To: Mike Smith Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: where's /usr/mdec?? In-Reply-To: <200103050223.f252Noj26194@mass.dis.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I'm trying to make a bootable floppy, and, well, docs left and right > > reference this /usr/mdec. Anyway, on my 3.5-stable, it's empty; and on my > > 4.2-stable /usr/mdec is totally absent. > > > > So exactly how do I get the contents to /usr/mdec? > > You don't. /usr/mdec has been deprecated for several years. > > What documentation are you reading that points you there? Most of what > used to be there is now in /boot. Dang. Didn't know that. I searched Yahoo to see what ways are there to create bootable FreeBSD diskettes. BUnch of hits came up. For example, one says: # format floppy fdformat fd0 # place boot blocks disklabel -w -B -b /usr/mdec/fdboot -s /usr/mdec/bootfd /dev/rfd0 fd1440 # newfs & partition newfs -t... # mount floppy & create directories mount... ...And so on. I sure scratched my oh-so-short beard trying to figure out how to get /usr/mdec/*. I see boot0, boot1, and that humongous boot2 in /boot. How do I use those? Or has everything changed in regard to make a bootable floppy? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 19:22:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lerbsd.lerctr.org (lerbsd.lerctr.org [207.158.72.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68CF437B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:22:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: (from ler@localhost) by lerbsd.lerctr.org (8.11.2/8.11.2/20010117) id f253MJ503283 for stable@freebsd.org; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:22:20 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ler) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:22:18 -0600 From: Larry Rosenman To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: make world dies.... Message-ID: <20010304212218.A3274@lerbsd.lerctr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline KerberosIV... sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 libssl.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 libssl_p.a /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib sh /usr/src/tools/install.sh -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 444 libssl.so.1 /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib ln -sf libssl.so.1 /usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/lib/libssl.so ===> libssh cd /usr/src/kerberosIV/lib; make depend; make all; make install ===> libroken make: don't know how to make strcollect.c. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src/kerberosIV/lib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="make.conf" # $FreeBSD: src/etc/defaults/make.conf,v 1.97.2.21 2000/09/19 23:37:08 gshapiro Exp $ # # This file, if present, will be read by make (see /usr/share/mk/sys.mk). # It allows you to override macro definitions to make without changing # your source tree, or anything the source tree installs. # # This file must be in valid Makefile syntax. # # You have to find the things you can put here in the Makefiles and # documentation of the source tree. #CPUTYPE=p3 # # CFLAGS controls the compiler settings used when compiling C code. # Note that optimisation settings above -O (-O2, ...) are not recommended # or supported for compiling the world or the kernel - please revert any # nonstandard optimisation settings to "-O" before submitting bug reports # to the developers. # Note also that at this time the -O2 setting is known to produce BROKEN # CODE on the Alpha platform. # #CFLAGS= -O -pipe # # CXXFLAGS controls the compiler settings used when compiling C++ code. # Note that CXXFLAGS is initially set to the value of CFLAGS. 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For example, SASL support can be # added with settings such as: # # SENDMAIL_CFLAGS=-I/usr/local/include -DSASL # SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS=-L/usr/local/lib # SENDMAIL_LDADD=-lsasl # #SENDMAIL_CFLAGS= #SENDMAIL_LDFLAGS= #SENDMAIL_LDADD= #SENDMAIL_DPADD= --tThc/1wpZn/ma/RB-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 19:36:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hobbits.brel.com (hobbits.brel.com [203.127.231.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CECC637B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 19:36:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from calvinng@hobbits.brel.com) Received: by hobbits.brel.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 5FF923328; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:36:29 +0800 (SGT) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:36:29 +0800 From: Calvin NG To: Mike Squires Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Oracle816 install Message-ID: <20010305113629.B55670@brel.com> References: <20010302144026.23627.qmail@web4503.mail.yahoo.com> <200103031212.f23CCd333816@ct980320-b.blmngtn1.in.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103031212.f23CCd333816@ct980320-b.blmngtn1.in.home.com>; from mikes@ct980320-b.blmngtn1.in.home.com on Sat, Mar 03, 2001 at 07:12:39AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings, The last time I did a install of Oracle 8.1.6 (or 8.1.7) some 6 months back, I NFS mount the FreeBSD system to a RH 6.1 system, and do the installation in RH onto the mounted disk. I think this was dicussed somewhere and I found it using Deja.COM (now googles). IIRC, it has something to do with the Java-based installer cannot be run on FreeBSD. Its doesn't matter which JDK you used (whether native FreeBSD port or the Linux one). Regards, /calvin lines with :> are quotes from Mike Squires's email :> > :> > I have been attempting to get Oracle816 for Linux :> > installed on my FreeBSD v42stable box. :> > :> :> After some months of monitoring various Oracle newsgroups it appears that :> the last version of Oracle to install under FreeBSD was 8.0.5, and that :> no one had been able to install 8.1.5/6/7. :> :> I am wondering if it would be possible to do an install under RH 6.2 (7.0 :> as from the CD doesn't work) and then move the binaries. This is not :> very expensive or time consuming in a world of $20 9GB drives. :> :> I'd be happy to find out I'm wrong... :> :> Mike Squires :> :> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org :> with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message :> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 20: 0:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from evil.blunt.yi.org (ip-216-23-55-190.adsl.one.net [216.23.55.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F163B37B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:00:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cokane@evil.blunt.yi.org) Received: (from cokane@localhost) by evil.blunt.yi.org (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f254ENt04123; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:14:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cokane) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:14:23 -0500 From: Coleman Kane To: Otter Cc: "'Mike Harding'" , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Version Numbering Message-ID: <20010304231423.B3870@cokane.yi.org> References: <20010304190147.1F5C0E6B0A@netcom1.netcom.com> <000601c0a4e1$1365a800$1401a8c0@zoso> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="DBIVS5p969aUjpLe" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <000601c0a4e1$1365a800$1401a8c0@zoso>; from otterr@telocity.com on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 02:26:55PM -0500 X-Vim: vim:tw=70:ts=4:sw=4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --DBIVS5p969aUjpLe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This belongs on -hackers or something, not -stable where we want to get real work done. I don't want to sound angry or something, since we're all friends here, but -stable and -current are really places I would prefer to see system issues sorted out or new features discussed, rather than version inflation jokes that were stated over a year ago. Otter had the audacity to say: >=20 > futuristic? uummm... wasn't 2000 last year? can we please kill this > thread now? > -Otter >=20 >=20 > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Mike Harding > > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2001 2:02 PM > > To: tom@uniserve.com > > Cc: ajh3@chmod.ath.cx; freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > > Subject: Re: Version Numbering > > > > > > > > Let's call it "FreeBSD 2000" so it sounds futuristic. > > > > Oh... Sorry. :) > > > > - Mike H. > > > > Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 09:28:07 -0800 (PST) > > From: Tom > > X-Sender: tom@athena.uniserve.ca > > Cc: FreeBSD-stable > > Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=3DUS-ASCII > > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Precedence: bulk > > > > > > On Sun, 4 Mar 2001, Andrew Hesford wrote: > > > > > What with all the version inflation going on in the > > Linux world, I have > > > an idea for FreeBSD. > > > > > > Forget 4.3-STABLE. Skip to 4.4. And rather than calling > > it FreeBSD > > > 4.4-STABLE, call it 4.4FreeBSD. That way, we can show > > off the roots of > > > FreeBSD and make it sound cool, too! > > > > This discussion already occured over a year ago. Use > > the archive. > > > > > Or, we can stop people from asking, "Why is RedHat in version > 7, > > > Mandrake almost in version 8, and FreeBSD only in 4?" > > (assuming RedHat > > > users even know what FreeBSD is). Just call the next > > release FreeBSD > > > 10.3-STABLE or FreeBSD 2001-STABLE. > > > > Are people seriously fooled by version numbers? I've > > never seen anyone > > on this list ask why the version number wasn't bigger. > > > > > -- > > > Andrew Hesford > > > ajh3@chmod.ath.cx > > > > > > Tom > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >=20 --DBIVS5p969aUjpLe Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6oxKfERViMObJ880RAfkXAJ9vJIte7d/4vaVcGrBm9QVCjDdHSACfe1EY vWZxOpoD3fS6LxoCSYjEO9E= =ydxS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --DBIVS5p969aUjpLe-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 20: 8:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.jazz-sax.com (adsl-64-163-65-116.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.163.65.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 32FDE37B719 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:08:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ericdano@jazz-sax.com) Received: from jazz-sax.com (adsl-64-163-65-114.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.163.65.114]) by freebsd.jazz-sax.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f2549El05880; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:09:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ericdano@jazz-sax.com) Message-ID: <3AA3116C.A64899B4@jazz-sax.com> Date: Sun, 04 Mar 2001 20:09:16 -0800 From: Eric Dannewitz Reply-To: ericdano@jazz-sax.com Organization: Jazz-Sax X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Calvin NG Cc: Mike Squires , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Oracle816 install References: <20010302144026.23627.qmail@web4503.mail.yahoo.com> <200103031212.f23CCd333816@ct980320-b.blmngtn1.in.home.com> <20010305113629.B55670@brel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG And that worked? Oracle 8.1.6 will run if you install it that way? Calvin NG wrote: > Greetings, > > The last time I did a install of Oracle 8.1.6 (or 8.1.7) > some 6 months back, I NFS mount the FreeBSD system to > a RH 6.1 system, and do the installation in RH onto > the mounted disk. > > I think this was dicussed somewhere and I found it using > Deja.COM (now googles). > > IIRC, it has something to do with the Java-based installer > cannot be run on FreeBSD. Its doesn't matter which JDK you > used (whether native FreeBSD port or the Linux one). > > Regards, > /calvin > > lines with :> are quotes from Mike Squires's email > :> > > :> > I have been attempting to get Oracle816 for Linux > :> > installed on my FreeBSD v42stable box. > :> > > :> > :> After some months of monitoring various Oracle newsgroups it appears that > :> the last version of Oracle to install under FreeBSD was 8.0.5, and that > :> no one had been able to install 8.1.5/6/7. > :> > :> I am wondering if it would be possible to do an install under RH 6.2 (7.0 > :> as from the CD doesn't work) and then move the binaries. This is not > :> very expensive or time consuming in a world of $20 9GB drives. > :> > :> I'd be happy to find out I'm wrong... > :> > :> Mike Squires > :> > :> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > :> with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > :> > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Back up my hard disk? I can't find the reverse switch! Eric Dannewitz - Adventurer, saxophonist, good-timer (crook? quite possibly), clarinetist, manic self-publicist, part-time flautist(flutist?), macintosher, and often thought to be completely out to lunch. http://www.jazz-sax.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 20:13:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ct980320-b.blmngtn1.in.home.com (ct980320-b.blmngtn1.in.home.com [65.8.207.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2D0A37B718; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:13:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mikes@ct980320-b.blmngtn1.in.home.com) Received: (from mikes@localhost) by ct980320-b.blmngtn1.in.home.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f254DkV07022; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:13:46 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mikes) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:13:46 -0500 (EST) From: Mike Squires Message-Id: <200103050413.f254DkV07022@ct980320-b.blmngtn1.in.home.com> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Installing Oracle 8.1.6 on FreeBSD-STABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There is an article on installing 8.1.6 by installing it on a RedHat LINUX box onto an NFS-mounted FreeBSD directory. The article is at http://maxel.gs707.com/oralin/orabsd.html and has quite a bit of information, although the author (Stacy Millions) does not claim that it is a step-by-step guide. I've had two other messages stating that this method worked (for one) or did not work (the other). Millions was unable to get dbassist to work, and is not sure how memory is allocated when the LINUX version runs under FreeBSD (I would assume this would work through the FreeBSD LINUX emulation, but I have no idea how that works). Mike Squires To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 20:16:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hobbits.brel.com (hobbits.brel.com [203.127.231.61]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AD81137B719 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:16:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from calvinng@hobbits.brel.com) Received: by hobbits.brel.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 70E073328; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:16:27 +0800 (SGT) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:16:27 +0800 From: Calvin NG To: Eric Dannewitz Cc: Mike Squires , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Oracle816 install Message-ID: <20010305121627.C55670@brel.com> References: <20010302144026.23627.qmail@web4503.mail.yahoo.com> <200103031212.f23CCd333816@ct980320-b.blmngtn1.in.home.com> <20010305113629.B55670@brel.com> <3AA3116C.A64899B4@jazz-sax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AA3116C.A64899B4@jazz-sax.com>; from ericdano@jazz-sax.com on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 08:09:16PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greetings, oh yes, it certainly did. The java-based installer can't run on FreeBSD, hence the RH6.1 system. Only need the RedHat during the installation process. Oh, BTW, the wizard for creating new database instance doesn't work too. I have to follow the manual instructions at some website. Anyway, just found this link that some guy actually did get the Oracle Installer to work. http://groups.google.com/groups?q=oracle+freebsd+linux&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&rnum=9&seld=955357297&ic=1 have not tried this, so good luck. Regards, /calvin lines with :> are quotes from Eric Dannewitz's email :> And that worked? Oracle 8.1.6 will run if you install it that way? :> :> Calvin NG wrote: :> :> > Greetings, :> > :> > The last time I did a install of Oracle 8.1.6 (or 8.1.7) :> > some 6 months back, I NFS mount the FreeBSD system to :> > a RH 6.1 system, and do the installation in RH onto :> > the mounted disk. :> > :> > I think this was dicussed somewhere and I found it using :> > Deja.COM (now googles). :> > :> > IIRC, it has something to do with the Java-based installer :> > cannot be run on FreeBSD. Its doesn't matter which JDK you :> > used (whether native FreeBSD port or the Linux one). :> > :> > Regards, :> > /calvin :> > :> > lines with :> are quotes from Mike Squires's email :> > :> > :> > :> > I have been attempting to get Oracle816 for Linux :> > :> > installed on my FreeBSD v42stable box. :> > :> > :> > :> :> > :> After some months of monitoring various Oracle newsgroups it appears that :> > :> the last version of Oracle to install under FreeBSD was 8.0.5, and that :> > :> no one had been able to install 8.1.5/6/7. :> > :> :> > :> I am wondering if it would be possible to do an install under RH 6.2 (7.0 :> > :> as from the CD doesn't work) and then move the binaries. This is not :> > :> very expensive or time consuming in a world of $20 9GB drives. :> > :> :> > :> I'd be happy to find out I'm wrong... :> > :> :> > :> Mike Squires :> > :> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 20:18:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ci638824-a.galatn1.tn.home.com (ci638824-a.galatn1.tn.home.com [24.2.25.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC0DC37B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 20:18:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keith@ci638824-a.galatn1.tn.home.com) Received: (from keith@localhost) by ci638824-a.galatn1.tn.home.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id WAA12907 for stable@FreeBSD.org; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:18:26 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from keith) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:18:26 -0600 From: Keith Johnson To: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe Message-ID: <20010304221826.A12899@ci638824-a.galatn1.tn.home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 21:36:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from over.ru (runaway.2sun.ru [212.158.172.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A517A37B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:36:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tarkhil@over.ru) Received: (qmail 60964 invoked by uid 1000); 5 Mar 2001 05:34:35 -0000 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:34:35 +0300 From: Alex Povolotsky To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Oracle run (was Re: Oracle816 install) Message-ID: <20010305083435.A60956@runaway.2sun.ru> References: <20010302144026.23627.qmail@web4503.mail.yahoo.com> <200103031212.f23CCd333816@ct980320-b.blmngtn1.in.home.com> <20010305113629.B55670@brel.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010305113629.B55670@brel.com>; from calvinng@brel.com on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 11:36:29AM +0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 11:36:29AM +0800, Calvin NG wrote: > The last time I did a install of Oracle 8.1.6 (or 8.1.7) > some 6 months back, I NFS mount the FreeBSD system to Well... and did ever anyone succeed in running, say, DBD::Oracle under FreeBSD? I mean not perl-for-linux, but something real, like mod_perl'ed Apache. Alex. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 21:52:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.cfw.com (flanders.ntelos.net [216.12.0.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1633037B71F for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:52:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cornwall@intelos.net) Received: (qmail 3421 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2001 00:52:15 -0500 Received: from unknown (HELO localhost) (127.0.0.1) by flanders.intelos.net with SMTP; 5 Mar 2001 00:52:15 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:52:15 -0500 (EST) From: To: Ben Hacker Jr Cc: list DC-FBSD , questions FBSD , Stable FBSD Subject: Re: fug-washdc Oracle816 install In-Reply-To: <20010302144026.23627.qmail@web4503.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Where does one get a copy of Oracle for FreeBSD? John On Fri, 2 Mar 2001, Ben Hacker Jr wrote: > > I have been attempting to get Oracle816 for Linux > installed on my FreeBSD v42stable box. > > I am failing! > > I cannot get the Oracle installer to run. > > I installed the Freebsd JDK1.1.8 > > Instructions on "www.scc.nl/~marcel" website are > not quite enough help. Has anyone gotten this > to work?? Could you point me to other helps > please. > > Also... the instructions say I need Linux_Base > and Linux_Devtools. I cannot find the "Devtools" > in the ports or packages anywhere. > > Please help. > > ===== > -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- > Ben Hacker Jr Technical Specialist > Computer Sciences Corporation > (703) 289-3477 MC 291 > bhacker1@csc.com 3170 Fairview Park Drive > strben@altavista.com Falls Church, VA 22304 > -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- -=*=- > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. > http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send email to majordomo@Sytex.Net > with "unsubscribe fug-washdc" only in the body of the message. > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 22:27: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from server1.wojo.com (server1.wojo.com [216.42.139.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDCC937B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:27:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robertw@wojo.com) Received: from moe.wojo.net (localhost.wojo.com [127.0.0.1]) by server1.wojo.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49B88AFE5 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:26:58 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Silo overflows MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:26:56 -0500 Message-ID: <16DC0F334516F5478EC60CADEDB6A68410D9A0@moe.wojo.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.4417.0 content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Silo overflows Thread-Index: AcClPUZ/DKAYnycrQYeg/UQffzPvqA== From: "Robert S. Wojciechowski Jr." To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Same problem here with two PIII 800mhz with serial consoles between the = two. It's quite annoying. Something is definitely broken in the serial code.=20 --- Robert S. Wojciechowski Jr. robertw@wojo.com ----------------------------------------------------------------- > On 04-Mar-2001 02:14:25, Rich Wales writes: > I'm running 4.2-RELEASE on an 800-MHz Athlon system. One of the > serial ports on this machine is connected to the serial console port > on a second machine (my home firewall/bridge, running 4.2-STABLE). >=20 > The firewall's serial console speed is set to 115200. The builtin > serial ports on both machines are 16550A's. >=20 > I'm getting lots and lots of silo overflows on the Athlon when I > generate a large amount of output from the firewall (e.g., if I do > "ls -ls", the output is badly garbled, and I get kernel messages on > the Athlon about silo overflows). >=20 > The Athlon's serial port (sio1) is using IRQ 3, and is =3Dnot=3D = sharing > this IRQ with any other hardware on the system. >=20 > I've tried patching isa/sio.c to set a lower receive FIFO threshold, > but even with a threshold of FIFO_RX_MEDL, I still get silo overflows > unless I reduce the console speed to 19200 or slower. >=20 > I'm really surprised that I should be getting silo overflows on an > 800-MHz Athlon -- which, I would think, should have plenty of = computing > power available to handle serial interrupts without losing any input. >=20 > It works flawlessly, BTW, if I run Win98 on the Athlon and connect to > the firewall via Hyperterm -- so I assume the problem is in the = FreeBSD > serial port driver, and not in my hardware. >=20 > I understand this "silo overflow" problem has been around for a long > time, but I wanted to bring it up again to make sure it wouldn't be > forgotten and would (hopefully) get fixed. >=20 > Rich Wales richw@webcom.com = http://www.webcom.com/richw/ >=20 >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >=20 >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 22:33:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 664) id 1EE6637B719; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:33:25 -0800 (PST) Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:33:25 -0800 From: David O'Brien To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Keeping track of Changes? Message-ID: <20010304223324.A36769@hub.freebsd.org> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <004601c0a503$4ef3a850$0300a8c0@magus> <20010304165708.A40747@mollari.cthul.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010304165708.A40747@mollari.cthul.hu>; from kris@obsecurity.org on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 04:57:08PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 04:57:08PM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > Personally, I save my commit messages which I know I want to merge at > some point in the future into a separate mfc folder, but another way > is to do something like: > > cvs diff -kk -u -r RELENG_4 -r HEAD | more This only works if you are in a -CURRENT /usr/src. "HEAD" for `cvs diff' refers to the head of the branch. In a RELENG_4 /usr/src, "HEAD" and "RELENG_4" are synomous. Don't you just _love_ CVS. I've been quite tempted to create a new keyword "TRUNK" to mean mainline "HEAD". -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 22:51:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5CBD37B718 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 22:51:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@chalmers.com.au) Received: from carbon (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f256ldU28348 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:47:39 +1000 (EST) From: "Robert" To: "stable" Subject: Bringing 2.2-SNAP to 2.2-STABLE then upwards - just a few few problems and questions Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:49:07 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Starting the process of bringing 2.2-SNAP to 2.2-STABLE, then upwards through 3 to 4. However, although the cvsup file seems to work ok, the #make buildworld crashes for some reason I've yet to figure. Of course this begs the question. If I'm attempting to bring the system up to 4.2-STABLE, do I need to make and install each release - or simply do the cvsup for each release to bring the tree up to date, then do the make buildworld on the final (4.2-STABLE) sources? I might add that this is a live system...... make buildworld failure..... =================================== snip........ a couple of hours of processing .... ===> libstdc++ /usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++ created for /usr/src/gnu/lib/libstdc++ cd /usr/src/secure/lib && /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make depend && /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPROFILE all && /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make -DNOINFO -DNOMAN -DNOPROFILE -B install cleandir obj install -c -o bin -g bin -m 444 bsd.README bsd.dep.mk bsd.doc.mk bsd.info.mk bsd.kern.mk bsd.kmod.mk bsd.lib.mk bsd.libnames.mk bsd.man.mk bsd.obj.mk bsd.own.mk bsd.port.mk bsd.port.post.mk bsd.port.pre.mk bsd.port.subdir.mk bsd.prog.mk bsd.sgml.mk bsd.subdir.mk sys.mk /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/mk usage: install [-CcDps] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] file1 file2 install [-CcDps] [-f flags] [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] file1 ... fileN directory install -d [-g group] [-m mode] [-o owner] directory ... *** Error code 64 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. *** Error code 1 Stop. # ....................................... CVSUP FILE: (supfile, residing in /usr/local/etc/cvsup/supfile) #----------------- src-base release=cvs host=cvsup.internat.freebsd.org hostbase=/home base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup prefix=/usr delete old compress use-rel-suffix tag=RELENG_2_2 src-bin release=cvs host=cvsup.internat.freebsd.org hostbase=/home base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup prefix=/usr delete old compress use-rel-suffix tag=RELENG_2_2 src-contrib release=cvs host=cvsup.internat.freebsd.org hostbase=/home base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup prefix=/usr delete old compress use-rel-suffix tag=RELENG_2_2 # Domestic users only please. If you live outside of the U.S.A and Canada # please use the collections in the secure-stable-supfile. src-eBones release=cvs host=cvsup.internat.freebsd.org hostbase=/home base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup prefix=/usr delete old compress use-rel-suffix src-etc release=cvs host=cvsup.internat.freebsd.org hostbase=/home base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup prefix=/usr delete old compress use-rel-suffix tag=RELENG_2_2 src-games release=cvs host=cvsup.internat.freebsd.org hostbase=/home base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup prefix=/usr delete old compress use-rel-suffix tag=RELENG_2_2 src-gnu release=cvs host=cvsup.internat.freebsd.org hostbase=/home base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup prefix=/usr delete old compress use-rel-suffix tag=RELENG_2_2 src-include release=cvs host=cvsup.internat.freebsd.org hostbase=/home base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup prefix=/usr delete old compress use-rel-suffix tag=RELENG_2_2 src-lib release=cvs host=cvsup.internat.freebsd.org hostbase=/home base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup prefix=/usr delete old compress use-rel-suffix tag=RELENG_2_2 src-libexec release=cvs host=cvsup.internat.freebsd.org hostbase=/home base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup prefix=/usr delete old compress use-rel-suffix tag=RELENG_2_2 src-sbin release=cvs host=cvsup.internat.freebsd.org hostbase=/home base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup prefix=/usr delete old compress use-rel-suffix tag=RELENG_2_2 # Domestic users only please. If you live outside of the U.S.A and Canada # please use the collections in the secure-stable-supfile. src-secure release=cvs host=cvsup.internat.freebsd.org hostbase=/home base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup prefix=/usr delete old compress use-rel-suffix src-share release=cvs host=cvsup.internat.freebsd.org hostbase=/home base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup prefix=/usr delete old compress use-rel-suffix tag=RELENG_2_2 src-sys release=cvs host=cvsup.internat.freebsd.org hostbase=/home base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup prefix=/usr delete old compress use-rel-suffix tag=RELENG_2_2 src-usrbin release=cvs host=cvsup.internat.freebsd.org hostbase=/home base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup prefix=/usr delete old compress use-rel-suffix tag=RELENG_2_2 src-usrsbin release=cvs host=cvsup.internat.freebsd.org hostbase=/home base=/usr/local/etc/cvsup prefix=/usr delete old compress use-rel-suffix tag=RELENG_2_2 ~ ~ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Mar 4 23:33:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF9F537B719 for ; Sun, 4 Mar 2001 23:33:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (doconnor@cain [203.38.152.97]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id SAA17410; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:03:14 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 18:03:14 +1030 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Robert Subject: RE: Bringing 2.2-SNAP to 2.2-STABLE then upwards - just a few fe Cc: stable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 05-Mar-01 Robert wrote: > Starting the process of bringing 2.2-SNAP to 2.2-STABLE, then upwards > through 3 to 4. Have you considered obtaining a CD and doing an upgrade that way? (or a network install) Also, I think you should consider reinstalling from scratch :) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 0:16:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235A637B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:16:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@nanguo.chalmers.com.au) Received: (from robert@localhost) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f258CFp28916; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:12:15 +1000 (EST) From: Robert Chalmers Message-Id: <200103050812.f258CFp28916@nanguo.chalmers.com.au> Subject: Re: Bringing 2.2-SNAP to 2.2-STABLE then upwards - just a few fe To: doconnor@gsoft.com.au (Daniel O'Connor) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 101 18:12:15 +1000 (EST) Cc: robert@chalmers.com.au, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: from Daniel O'Connor at "Mar 5, 1 06:03:14 pm" X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL22 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Daniel O'Connor > > On 05-Mar-01 Robert wrote: > > Starting the process of bringing 2.2-SNAP to 2.2-STABLE, then upwards > > through 3 to 4. > > Have you considered obtaining a CD and doing an upgrade that way? > (or a network install) > > Also, I think you should consider reinstalling from scratch :) > Yes, looked at that - but being a glutton for punishment at heart I decided to try the cvsup path. I was trying to use the cvsup release that came with 2.2, but just upgraded to the latest version 16.1, and on first run it seems to have found a lot of new stuff the old one missed ??? anyway - if all else fails :-)... I'l buy the 4.2 CD, or use the 4.0 RELEASE I have here, and then cvsup that one. and failing all that - if I badly crash the system, I'll just have to upgrade from scratch :-) cheers Robert > --- > Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer > for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au > "The nice thing about standards is that there > are so many of them to choose from." > -- Andrew Tanenbaum > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- Support Whirled Peas. http://www.quantum-radio.net.au robert@chalmers.com.au Location: P.O. Box 2003. Mackay. 4740. 21'7" S, 149'14" E. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 0:44:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bumper.jellybaby.net (bumper.jellybaby.net [194.159.247.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 292DA37B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 00:44:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simond@bumper.jellybaby.net) Received: (from simond@localhost) by bumper.jellybaby.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) id IAA22838; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:44:34 GMT (envelope-from simond) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:44:34 +0000 From: simond@irrelevant.org To: "Robert S. Wojciechowski Jr." Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Silo overflows Message-ID: <20010305084433.A22512@irrelevant.org> References: <16DC0F334516F5478EC60CADEDB6A68410D9A0@moe.wojo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <16DC0F334516F5478EC60CADEDB6A68410D9A0@moe.wojo.net>; from robertw@wojo.com on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 01:26:56AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 01:26:56AM -0500, Robert S. Wojciechowski Jr. wrote: > Same problem here with two PIII 800mhz with serial consoles between the two. > It's quite annoying. > > Something is definitely broken in the serial code. I have the same problem under 4-stable when I hotsync my palm pilot, I usually get around 50 overruns during a single hotsync, it still works, but I'm sure it shouldn't do that :) -- Simon Dick simond@irrelevant.org "Why do I get this urge to go bowling everytime I see Tux?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 1:36:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D66837B72A for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:36:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f259ZQH24254; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 01:35:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: willwong@samurai.com Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Keeping track of Changes? In-Reply-To: <004601c0a503$4ef3a850$0300a8c0@magus> References: <004601c0a503$4ef3a850$0300a8c0@magus> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010305013526Q.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 01:35:26 -0800 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 16 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: "William Wong" Subject: Keeping track of Changes? Date: Sun, 4 Mar 2001 18:31:59 -0500 > I'm just wondering how the developers keep track or what still needs to be > merged from -CURRENT to -STABLE. Is it just version numbers on particular > files? It really depends on the developer. If you're just maintaining one or two directories in the -stable tree, it's easy enough to ask CVS to give you a list of diffs against -current to see what people have done on the -trunk. Others of us who take a more top-level view simply have to do a "cvs rdiff -kk -u -rRELENG_4 -rHEAD src" and be willing to peruse over 100MB of diffs in some cases. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 2:13: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E1EE37B718; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 02:12:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f25ACEH24424; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 02:12:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: cokane@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: otterr@telocity.com, mvh@ix.netcom.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Version Numbering In-Reply-To: <20010304231423.B3870@cokane.yi.org> References: <20010304190147.1F5C0E6B0A@netcom1.netcom.com> <000601c0a4e1$1365a800$1401a8c0@zoso> <20010304231423.B3870@cokane.yi.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010305021214P.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 02:12:14 -0800 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Actually, it belongs on -chat. Follow-ups set accordingly. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 2:34:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5271637B719; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 02:34:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f25AY6H44354; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 02:34:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: developers@freebsd.org Subject: 4-stable code freeze time X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010305023406C.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 02:34:06 -0800 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 7 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The RELENG_4 branch will enter code freeze on March 5th, 18:00 PST (March 6th, 0200 GMT). This means that all changes to the branch must be run by me first and not simply committed directly after that time, up until I explicitly declare the freeze to be over. That is all. Thanks! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 2:49: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F31037B719 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 02:48:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@chalmers.com.au) Received: from carbon (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f25Aj2U29302 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:45:02 +1000 (EST) From: "Robert" To: "stable" Subject: cvsup 16.1 core dumping on 2.2 ? Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:46:30 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG anyone seen cvsup 16.1 coredumping? and maybe know what would cause it to do so? bob To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 3: 4: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8852837B71C for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 03:04:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f25B3nU19714; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 03:03:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 03:03:49 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Robert Cc: stable Subject: Re: cvsup 16.1 core dumping on 2.2 ? Message-ID: <20010305030348.S8663@fw.wintelcom.net> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from robert@chalmers.com.au on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 08:46:30PM +1000 X-all-your-base: are belong to us. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Robert [010305 02:49] wrote: > anyone seen cvsup 16.1 coredumping? and maybe know what would cause it to do > so? I've had it do that when trying to use the GUI version and my dns/hostname wasn't set properly. try using '-g' to turn off the GUI and it's a lot more forgiving of such things. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 4: 7:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lysias10.twistedpair.nl (www2.twistedpair.nl [195.108.74.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2453F37B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 04:07:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Jeanine@twistedpair.nl) Received: from twistedpair.nl (lysias10.twistedpair.nl [195.108.74.10]) by lysias10.twistedpair.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA24473; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:07:23 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from Jeanine@twistedpair.nl) Message-ID: <3AA3817B.DB3EBBFB@twistedpair.nl> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 13:07:23 +0100 From: Jeanine Velthove-van Velzen Organization: Twisted Pair bv, IT & Webservices (http://www.twistedpair.nl) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (X11; I; FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Calvin NG Cc: Eric Dannewitz , Mike Squires , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Oracle816 install References: <20010302144026.23627.qmail@web4503.mail.yahoo.com> <200103031212.f23CCd333816@ct980320-b.blmngtn1.in.home.com> <20010305113629.B55670@brel.com> <3AA3116C.A64899B4@jazz-sax.com> <20010305121627.C55670@brel.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Calvin NG wrote: > > Oh, BTW, the > wizard for creating new database instance doesn't work too. I have to > follow the manual instructions at some website. > That's quite normal for Oracle. The svrmgr tool doesn't work in an official port too (Solaris 2.7 and Oracle 7.3.4). Kind regards, Jeanine Velthove-van Velzen Twisted Pair bv To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 5:45:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60AC837B71C for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 05:45:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14ZvIk-000KAE-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2001 05:45:26 -0800 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: syslog overwriting dmesg? Message-Id: Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 05:45:26 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i am seeing symptoms a lot like syslog overwriting dmesg and then truncating it horrobly. it takes a few days, and is only happening on one host. is anybody else seeing anything like this? randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 6: 8:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from veldy.net (w028.z064001117.msp-mn.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.117.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9852837B71C for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:08:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from HP2500B (fuggle.veldy.net [64.1.117.28]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1790DBA3B; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:07:53 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <003b01c0a57d$73254010$3028680a@tgt.com> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: "Dima Dorfman" Cc: References: <20010305025935.2A2A83E09@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Subject: Re: OpenSSH Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:06:17 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Not likely, considering it isn't even in -current yet. There are some > alleged problems with it, especially when interacting with ssh.com > implementations. I say alleged because while I've seen many > complaints about this on the development list, I've never actually > seen them myself. I have used 2.5.0pl1 with SSH2 client from ssh.com and with the SSH1 client in TeraTerm Pro. No problems at all. > > Regardless of the last part of the above, however, there's almost no > chance you'll see it in 4.3-RELEASE. Such things need time to settle > in -current before they're merged. I have to agree that it should settle a bit --- just to make sure stable is indeed stable. There has been enough chaos lately. > > Dima Dorfman > dima@unixfreak.org > Tom Veldhouse veldy@veldy.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 6:18:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from froody.rupture.net (froody.rupture.net [205.252.38.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1A3837B71A for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:18:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jon@rupture.net) Received: from localhost (jon@localhost) by froody.rupture.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA23838; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:29:59 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jon@rupture.net) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:29:55 -0500 (EST) From: Jon Nathan To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Cc: Dima Dorfman , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: OpenSSH In-Reply-To: <003b01c0a57d$73254010$3028680a@tgt.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG i can confirm problems with at least the ssh.com ssh2 client connecting to openssh2.3.0 (4.2-stable). maybe i have an old version of the ssh.com client - i haven't worried a whole lot about it because an upgrade is planned for the box with the ssh.com client anyway. jon@froody:~> which ssh /usr/bin/ssh jon@froody:~> ssh -V ssh: SSH Secure Shell 2.1.0.pl2 (non-commercial version) jon@froody:~> ssh w2.chaffee.com ssh in free(): warning: chunk is already free. warning: Authentication failed. warning: Disconnected; key exchange or algorith negotiation failed (Key exchange failed.). jon@froody:~> ssh -v w2.chaffee.com warning: Development-time debugging not compiled in. warning: To enable, configure with --enable-debug and recompile. debug: hostname is 'w2.chaffee.com'. debug: Unable to open /home/jon/.ssh2/ssh2_config warning: Development-time debugging not compiled in. warning: To enable, configure with --enable-debug and recompile. debug: connecting to w2.chaffee.com... debug: entering event loop debug: ssh_client_wrap: creating transport protocol debug: Ssh2Client/sshclient.c:1015/ssh_client_wrap: creating userauth protocol debug: Remote version: SSH-1.99-OpenSSH_2.3.0 debug: Ssh2Client/sshclient.c:349/keycheck_key_match: Host key found from database. ssh in free(): warning: chunk is already free. warning: Authentication failed. debug: client_disconnect: Key exchange failed. debug: Ssh2/ssh2.c:77/client_disconnect: locally_generated = TRUE warning: Disconnected; key exchange or algorith negotiation failed (Key exchange failed.). debug: uninitializing event loop jon@froody:~> jon@froody:~> ssh1 w2.chaffee.com jon@w2.chaffee.com's password: Last login: Mon Mar 5 14:12:13 2001 from froody.rupture.n Copyright (c) 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE (CHAFFEE) #1: Sat Mar 3 23:01:25 EST 2001 w2.chaffee.com Stay away from hurricanes for a while. jon@w2:~> -jon -- Jon Nathan jon@rupture.net http://www.rupture.net/~jon/ On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > > > Not likely, considering it isn't even in -current yet. There are some > > alleged problems with it, especially when interacting with ssh.com > > implementations. I say alleged because while I've seen many > > complaints about this on the development list, I've never actually > > seen them myself. > > I have used 2.5.0pl1 with SSH2 client from ssh.com and with the SSH1 client > in TeraTerm Pro. No problems at all. > > > > > Regardless of the last part of the above, however, there's almost no > > chance you'll see it in 4.3-RELEASE. Such things need time to settle > > in -current before they're merged. > > I have to agree that it should settle a bit --- just to make sure stable is > indeed stable. There has been enough chaos lately. > > > > > Dima Dorfman > > dima@unixfreak.org > > > > > Tom Veldhouse > veldy@veldy.net > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 6:23:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BFF8A37B71A for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:23:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 5 Mar 2001 14:23:14 +0000 (GMT) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:23:13 +0000 From: David Malone To: Randy Bush Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: syslog overwriting dmesg? Message-ID: <20010305142313.A91903@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from randy@psg.com on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 05:45:26AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 05:45:26AM -0800, Randy Bush wrote: > i am seeing symptoms a lot like syslog overwriting dmesg and then truncating > it horrobly. it takes a few days, and is only happening on one host. is > anybody else seeing anything like this? Have you tried "dmesg -a"? I believe the problem is known and that Robert Wattson is working on some changes which should help. David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 6:23:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from veldy.net (w028.z064001117.msp-mn.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.117.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A15FD37B719 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:23:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from HP2500B (fuggle.veldy.net [64.1.117.28]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with SMTP id A25EEBA3B; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:22:26 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <006201c0a57f$7bf35c70$3028680a@tgt.com> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: "Jon Nathan" Cc: "Dima Dorfman" , References: Subject: Re: OpenSSH Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:20:51 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I use it against my FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE -- right now as a matter of fact -- tunneling my SMTP through it. I use the 2.4 version of the client. Tom Veldhouse veldy@veldy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jon Nathan" To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Cc: "Dima Dorfman" ; Sent: Monday, March 05, 2001 8:29 AM Subject: Re: OpenSSH > i can confirm problems with at least the ssh.com ssh2 client > connecting to openssh2.3.0 (4.2-stable). maybe i have an old version > of the ssh.com client - i haven't worried a whole lot about it because > an upgrade is planned for the box with the ssh.com client anyway. > > jon@froody:~> which ssh > /usr/bin/ssh > jon@froody:~> ssh -V > ssh: SSH Secure Shell 2.1.0.pl2 (non-commercial version) > jon@froody:~> ssh w2.chaffee.com > ssh in free(): warning: chunk is already free. > warning: Authentication failed. > warning: > Disconnected; key exchange or algorith negotiation failed (Key > exchange failed.). > jon@froody:~> ssh -v w2.chaffee.com > warning: Development-time debugging not compiled in. > warning: To enable, configure with --enable-debug and recompile. > debug: hostname is 'w2.chaffee.com'. > debug: Unable to open /home/jon/.ssh2/ssh2_config > warning: Development-time debugging not compiled in. > warning: To enable, configure with --enable-debug and recompile. > debug: connecting to w2.chaffee.com... > debug: entering event loop > debug: ssh_client_wrap: creating transport protocol > debug: Ssh2Client/sshclient.c:1015/ssh_client_wrap: creating userauth > protocol > debug: Remote version: SSH-1.99-OpenSSH_2.3.0 > debug: Ssh2Client/sshclient.c:349/keycheck_key_match: Host key found > from database. > ssh in free(): warning: chunk is already free. > warning: Authentication failed. > debug: client_disconnect: Key exchange failed. > debug: Ssh2/ssh2.c:77/client_disconnect: locally_generated = TRUE > warning: > Disconnected; key exchange or algorith negotiation failed (Key > exchange failed.). > debug: uninitializing event loop > jon@froody:~> > jon@froody:~> ssh1 w2.chaffee.com > jon@w2.chaffee.com's password: > Last login: Mon Mar 5 14:12:13 2001 from froody.rupture.n > Copyright (c) 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1990, 1991, 1993, 1994 > The Regents of the University of California. All rights > reserved. > FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE (CHAFFEE) #1: Sat Mar 3 23:01:25 EST 2001 > > w2.chaffee.com > > Stay away from hurricanes for a while. > jon@w2:~> > > -jon > > -- > Jon Nathan > jon@rupture.net > http://www.rupture.net/~jon/ > > > On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Thomas T. Veldhouse wrote: > > > > > > Not likely, considering it isn't even in -current yet. There are some > > > alleged problems with it, especially when interacting with ssh.com > > > implementations. I say alleged because while I've seen many > > > complaints about this on the development list, I've never actually > > > seen them myself. > > > > I have used 2.5.0pl1 with SSH2 client from ssh.com and with the SSH1 client > > in TeraTerm Pro. No problems at all. > > > > > > > > Regardless of the last part of the above, however, there's almost no > > > chance you'll see it in 4.3-RELEASE. Such things need time to settle > > > in -current before they're merged. > > > > I have to agree that it should settle a bit --- just to make sure stable is > > indeed stable. There has been enough chaos lately. > > > > > > > > Dima Dorfman > > > dima@unixfreak.org > > > > > > > > > Tom Veldhouse > > veldy@veldy.net > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 6:26:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lists01.iafrica.com (lists01.iafrica.com [196.7.0.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E25837B71A for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:26:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@uunet.co.za) Received: from nwl.fw.uunet.co.za ([196.31.2.162]) by lists01.iafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #2) id 14ZvwV-00062D-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2001 16:26:31 +0200 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za (8.8.8/8.6.9) id QAA20924 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:26:30 +0200 (SAST) Received: by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za via recvmail id 20684; Mon Mar 5 16:25:11 2001 Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.fw.uunet.co.za) by axl.fw.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14ZvvC-0000fG-00 for stable@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 05 Mar 2001 16:25:10 +0200 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: buildworld broken for non-root users Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 16:25:10 +0200 Message-ID: <2557.983802310@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> From: Sheldon Hearn Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For a while now, buildworld has been broken for non-root users: [...] ===> share/doc/papers/memfs indxbib -c /usr/src/share/doc/papers/memfs/../../../../contrib/groff/indxbib/eign -o ref.bib /usr/src/share/doc/papers/memfs/ref.bib vgrind -f < /usr/src/share/doc/papers/memfs/A.t > A.gt refer -n -e -l -s -p /usr/src/share/doc/papers/memfs/ref.bib /usr/src/share/doc/papers/memfs/0.t /usr/src/share/doc/papers/memfs/1.t A.gt > paper.t refer:/usr/src/share/doc/papers/memfs/1.t:46:fatal error: cannot create temporary file: Permission denied *** Error code 3 Stop in /usr/src/share/doc/papers/memfs. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/share/doc/papers. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/share/doc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/share. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. I'll try to look at the problem, but time is short for me. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 6:30:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from rip.psg.com (rip.psg.com [147.28.0.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 955D937B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:30:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from randy@psg.com) Received: from randy by rip.psg.com with local (Exim 3.16 #1) id 14Zvzz-000LRx-00; Mon, 05 Mar 2001 06:30:07 -0800 From: Randy Bush MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit To: David Malone Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: syslog overwriting dmesg? References: <20010305142313.A91903@walton.maths.tcd.ie> Message-Id: Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 06:30:07 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >> i am seeing symptoms a lot like syslog overwriting dmesg and then >> truncating it horribly. it takes a few days, and is only happening on >> one host. is anybody else seeing anything like this? > Have you tried "dmesg -a"? I believe the problem is known and that > Robert Wattson is working on some changes which should help. dmesg -a gives me a much bigger swath of syslog. as this is the documented behavior of -a, i did not whine about that. but it's cheering that it is a known problem and robert is aware of it. i had this icy feeling in my stomach of a possible security issue. randy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 6:30:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6016B37B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:30:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id GAA10353; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:30:25 -0800 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda10347; Mon Mar 5 06:30:03 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f25ETww48771; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:29:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdj48769; Mon Mar 5 06:29:23 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f25ETMZ09066; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:29:22 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103051429.f25ETMZ09066@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdek8963; Mon Mar 5 06:29:14 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: Don Read Cc: Martti Kuparinen , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Different output from pkg_version In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 04 Mar 2001 16:02:38 CST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 06:29:14 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Don Read writes: > > On 04-Mar-01 Martti Kuparinen wrote: > > Hi! > > > > Does anyone know a reason for the difference in the following outputs: > > > > > ROOT ws3:~> pkg_version -v | grep bash > > bash-2.04 = up-to-date with port > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > ROOT server:~> pkg_version -v | grep bash > > bash-2.04 * multiple versions (index has 1.14.7,2.04) > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > pkg_version is telling you that the INDEX does not match exactly what's > installed. > > If you want out of date ports, use pkg_version -vl"<" Not entirely true. pkg_version -vl"*" also tells you that because there are multiple versions in the INDEX, it is confused, e.g. it doesn't know which version of the port in the INDEX to compare the installed version number with, and that you need to manually verify that the listed ports are up to date. You need to have pkg_version check for both "<" and "*". Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 6:39:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lists01.iafrica.com (lists01.iafrica.com [196.7.0.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 330EF37B718; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:39:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@uunet.co.za) Received: from nwl.fw.uunet.co.za ([196.31.2.162]) by lists01.iafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #2) id 14Zw8u-0006F3-00; Mon, 05 Mar 2001 16:39:20 +0200 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za (8.8.8/8.6.9) id QAA25049; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:39:19 +0200 (SAST) Received: by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za via recvmail id 24840; Mon Mar 5 16:38:06 2001 Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.fw.uunet.co.za) by axl.fw.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14Zw7i-0000o2-00; Mon, 05 Mar 2001 16:38:06 +0200 To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: ru@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildworld broken for non-root users In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 05 Mar 2001 16:25:10 +0200." <2557.983802310@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 16:38:06 +0200 Message-ID: <3101.983803086@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> From: Sheldon Hearn Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 05 Mar 2001 16:25:10 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > For a while now, buildworld has been broken for non-root users: > > [...] > ===> share/doc/papers/memfs > indxbib -c /usr/src/share/doc/papers/memfs/../../../../contrib/groff/indxbib/eign -o ref.bib /usr/src/share/doc/papers/memfs/ref.bib > vgrind -f < /usr/src/share/doc/papers/memfs/A.t > A.gt > refer -n -e -l -s -p /usr/src/share/doc/papers/memfs/ref.bib /usr/src/share/doc/papers/memfs/0.t /usr/src/share/doc/papers/memfs/1.t A.gt > paper.t > refer:/usr/src/share/doc/papers/memfs/1.t:46:fatal error: cannot create temporary file: Permission denied > *** Error code 3 I have a feeling that this has been happening since groff was upgraded in -STABLE. refer(1) is using /var/tmp as its temporary directory. Non-priveleged users may not create files in this directory. I think the fix may be to set GROFF_TMPDIR to something sane for buildworld. Ciao, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 6:39:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D704E37B71A; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:39:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id GAA10384; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:39:23 -0800 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda10382; Mon Mar 5 06:39:13 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f25Ed8k48924; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:39:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdQ48885; Mon Mar 5 06:38:24 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f25EcNB18430; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 06:38:23 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103051438.f25EcNB18430@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdb18085; Mon Mar 5 06:38:02 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Cc: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, "Alexandr A. Listopad" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildworld failure (3-4-2001 cvsup) In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 04 Mar 2001 19:06:33 CST." <007101c0a510$85157690$0100a8c0@cascade> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 06:38:01 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <007101c0a510$85157690$0100a8c0@cascade>, "Thomas T. Veldhouse" writ es: > What would be the best -- most stable (and secure) day to cvsup too? Feb > 15th? I'm using some systems cvsupped on Mar 2 @ 0715 PST. Builds clean and is stable. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 7: 0:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B710B37B718; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 07:00:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f25Ex4a76300; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:59:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stijn) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:59:04 +0100 From: Stijn Hoop To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: stable@freebsd.org, ru@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildworld broken for non-root users Message-ID: <20010305155904.A75943@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> References: <2557.983802310@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> <3101.983803086@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3101.983803086@axl.fw.uunet.co.za>; from sheldonh@uunet.co.za on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 04:38:06PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 04:38:06PM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > On Mon, 05 Mar 2001 16:25:10 +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > For a while now, buildworld has been broken for non-root users: > > > > [...] > > ===> share/doc/papers/memfs > > indxbib -c /usr/src/share/doc/papers/memfs/../../../../contrib/groff/indxbib/eign -o ref.bib /usr/src/share/doc/papers/memfs/ref.bib > > vgrind -f < /usr/src/share/doc/papers/memfs/A.t > A.gt > > refer -n -e -l -s -p /usr/src/share/doc/papers/memfs/ref.bib /usr/src/share/doc/papers/memfs/0.t /usr/src/share/doc/papers/memfs/1.t A.gt > paper.t > > refer:/usr/src/share/doc/papers/memfs/1.t:46:fatal error: cannot create temporary file: Permission denied > > *** Error code 3 > > I have a feeling that this has been happening since groff was upgraded > in -STABLE. refer(1) is using /var/tmp as its temporary directory. > Non-priveleged users may not create files in this directory. Since when? I think I missed that change: [stijn@pcwin002] <~> ls -ld /var/tmp drwxrwxrwt 5 root wheel 512 Mar 5 15:41 /var/tmp ^^^ > I think the fix may be to set GROFF_TMPDIR to something sane for > buildworld. I think it is not insane, although /tmp might be a better choice. --Stijn -- "I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not so sure." To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 7: 2:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1C5937B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 07:02:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id HAA10472; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 07:02:44 -0800 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda10470; Mon Mar 5 07:02:24 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f25F2Jw49177; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 07:02:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdt49166; Mon Mar 5 07:01:26 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f25F1Pi25287; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 07:01:25 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103051501.f25F1Pi25287@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdg25095; Mon Mar 5 07:01:12 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: Graywane Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Nothing using pthreads will compile. In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 04 Mar 2001 15:28:17 EST." <20010304152817.A40121@home.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 07:01:11 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20010304152817.A40121@home.com>, Graywane writes: > A 4.2-STABLE system compiled last week had no thread problems. A 4.2-STABLE > system compiled with sources from late friday night (March 2, 2001) now > fails to link any threaded port (qt22, gftp, etc). > > Is anyone else experiencing this problem? No problem building qt22 from sources built on the Mar 2 0715 PST CVSup. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 7: 5:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lists01.iafrica.com (lists01.iafrica.com [196.7.0.141]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D73D37B718; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 07:05:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sheldonh@uunet.co.za) Received: from nwl.fw.uunet.co.za ([196.31.2.162]) by lists01.iafrica.com with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #2) id 14ZwXt-0006hZ-00; Mon, 05 Mar 2001 17:05:09 +0200 Received: (from nobody@localhost) by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za (8.8.8/8.6.9) id RAA00925; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:05:08 +0200 (SAST) Received: by nwl.fw.uunet.co.za via recvmail id 791; Mon Mar 5 17:04:40 2001 Received: from sheldonh (helo=axl.fw.uunet.co.za) by axl.fw.uunet.co.za with local-esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14ZwXP-000D3h-00; Mon, 05 Mar 2001 17:04:39 +0200 To: Stijn Hoop Cc: stable@freebsd.org, ru@freebsd.org Subject: Re: buildworld broken for non-root users In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 05 Mar 2001 15:59:04 +0100." <20010305155904.A75943@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 17:04:39 +0200 Message-ID: <50197.983804679@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> From: Sheldon Hearn Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 05 Mar 2001 15:59:04 +0100, Stijn Hoop wrote: > > I have a feeling that this has been happening since groff was upgraded > > in -STABLE. refer(1) is using /var/tmp as its temporary directory. > > Non-priveleged users may not create files in this directory. > > Since when? I think I missed that change: > > [stijn@pcwin002] <~> ls -ld /var/tmp > drwxrwxrwt 5 root wheel 512 Mar 5 15:41 /var/tmp Ahhhh, that's it! Geez, I wonder how I screwed up permissions on /var/tmp... Thanks, Sheldon. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 8:38:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ws130.nomadiclab.com (ws130.nomadiclab.com [195.165.196.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84DB237B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 08:38:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from martti.kuparinen@nomadiclab.com) Received: from ws140.nomadiclab.com (ws140.nomadiclab.com [195.165.196.140]) by ws130.nomadiclab.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D52E472501; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:38:44 +0200 (EET) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:38:44 +0200 (EET) From: Martti Kuparinen To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Different output from pkg_version In-Reply-To: <200103051429.f25ETMZ09066@cwsys.cwsent.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, 5 Mar 2001, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > > ROOT ws3:~> pkg_version -v | grep bash > > > bash-2.04 = up-to-date with port > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > > > > ROOT server:~> pkg_version -v | grep bash > > > bash-2.04 * multiple versions (index has 1.14.7,2.04) > > Not entirely true. pkg_version -vl"*" also tells you that because > there are multiple versions in the INDEX, it is confused, e.g. it > doesn't know which version of the port in the INDEX to compare the > installed version number with, and that you need to manually verify > that the listed ports are up to date. You need to have pkg_version > check for both "<" and "*". Here's the solution (I think): ws3:~> diff -u +CONTENTS /var/db/pkg/bash-2.04/ --- +CONTENTS Mon Mar 5 18:23:26 2001 +++ /var/db/pkg/bash-2.04/+CONTENTS Tue Feb 27 20:09:32 2001 @@ -1,15 +1,16 @@ @name bash-2.04 @cwd /usr/local +@comment ORIGIN:shells/bash2 <============================ NOTE THIS man/man1/bash.1.gz @comment MD5:ffa6685ff15b9d2b0106f125bb383563 man/man1/bashbug.1.gz @comment MD5:e82513094e573a535272f0b254fc24a7 bin/bash -@comment MD5:49478a325aa2063b5e2a90dede91edf5 +@comment MD5:6419fa21da78185a016e8142f67e1507 @exec echo "updating /etc/shells"; cp /etc/shells /etc/shells.bak; (grep -v %D/%F /etc/shells.bak; echo %D/%F) >/etc/shells @unexec echo "updating /etc/shells"; cp /etc/shells /etc/shells.bak; (grep -v %D/%F /etc/shells.bak) >/etc/shells bin/bashbug -@comment MD5:82259e4767389818988af62cc98888e2 +@comment MD5:b69efe50e75ba9e822562ddb57f86bae @unexec install-info --delete %D/info/bash.info %D/info/dir info/bash.info @comment MD5:f995b31898736d7f9aff1efcf9bb3a46 As you can see, a newer version of the system adds "ORIGIN:shells/bash2" into the package datbase files and with it pkg_version can be determine correct source directory... The only solution for my problem might be to reinstall the port so that this ORIGIN-entry would be created. I haven't checked the source code so I'm not 100% sure but this seems right so far... Martti --- Martti Kuparinen http://www.iki.fi/~kuparine/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 9:11:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from goliath.siemens.de (goliath.siemens.de [194.138.37.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2800D37B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:11:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de) X-Envelope-Sender-Is: andre.albsmeier@mchp.siemens.de (at relayer goliath.siemens.de) Received: from mail3.siemens.de (mail3.siemens.de [139.25.208.14]) by goliath.siemens.de (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f25HB4C12077; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:11:05 +0100 (MET) Received: from curry.mchp.siemens.de (curry.mchp.siemens.de [139.25.42.7]) by mail3.siemens.de (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f25HB3r31984704; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:11:03 +0100 (MET) Received: (from localhost) by curry.mchp.siemens.de (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f25HB3S85727; Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:10:59 +0100 From: Andre Albsmeier To: "Matthew N. Dodd" Cc: Mike Tancsa , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems with quotas on STABLE Message-ID: <20010305181059.A65640@curry.mchp.siemens.de> References: <4.2.2.20010226064702.03756c60@marble.sentex.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from winter@jurai.net on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 04:26:09PM -0500 X-Echelon: BND CIA NSA Mossad KGB MI6 IRA detonator nuclear assault strike Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, 04-Mar-2001 at 16:26:09 -0500, Matthew N. Dodd wrote: > On Mon, 26 Feb 2001, Mike Tancsa wrote: > > Not sure how long this problem has been around, but at bootup time the > > quota file creation process always seems to fail for me. If I kill the file > > and let it start from scratch, same problem as if I let it update it after > > a reboot. > ... > > quotacheck: /home/quota.user: seek failed: File too large > > So hunt down the files/directories on that filesystem that have really > high UID/GID numbers and change them to something sane. The quota file > format includes a record for every UID/GID on the system between the > smallest and the largest. FYI, we had the same problem here when using PCNFS without a user being logged in (PCNFS then writes files as nobody which incorrectly has uid -2 which turns out to be 2^32 - 1 in FreeBSD). The corresponding PR is PR# 2325, so you see that the problem is really old :-). Since then I use a (really ugly) patch which maps all uid's which are bigger than 65535 to our nobody: --- sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_quota.c.ORI Mon Jul 31 09:36:03 2000 +++ sys/ufs/ufs/ufs_quota.c Mon Jul 31 09:36:44 2000 @@ -750,6 +750,8 @@ /* * Check the cache first. */ + if( id > 65535 ) + id = 65534; dqh = DQHASH(dqvp, id); for (dq = dqh->lh_first; dq; dq = dq->dq_hash.le_next) { if (dq->dq_id != id || --- sbin/quotacheck/quotacheck.c.ORI Mon Jul 31 09:20:54 2000 +++ sbin/quotacheck/quotacheck.c Mon Jul 31 09:21:15 2000 @@ -506,6 +506,8 @@ struct fileusage *fup, **fhp; int len; + if( id > 65535 ) + id = 65534; if ((fup = lookup(id, type)) != NULL) return (fup); if (name) Yes, this is ugly but has worked very well all the time. -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 9:22:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4076B37B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 09:22:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f25HLjd77377; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:21:45 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200103051721.f25HLjd77377@harmony.village.org> To: Conrad Sabatier Subject: Re: buildworld failure (3-4-2001 cvsup) Cc: "Alexandr A. Listopad" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Sun, 04 Mar 2001 12:54:13 CST." References: Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 10:21:45 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message Conrad Sabatier writes: : Fix one thing, break another. :-) Fix one thing, find the next thing that's broken. These two were unrelated. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 10:10:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from burka.carrier.kiev.ua (burka.carrier.kiev.ua [193.193.193.107]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8465837B719 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:10:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from netch@lucky.net) Received: from netch@localhost by burka.carrier.kiev.ua id UDY12473 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:10:17 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from netch) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:10:17 +0200 From: Valentin Nechayev To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: build 4-stable on 3-stable: how? Message-ID: <20010305201016.E86817@lucky.net> Reply-To: netch@lucky.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i X-42: On Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A few last months, building of 4-stable on 3.4-stable system fails with === cut === c++ -I/usr/obj/var/REL4/src/i386/usr/include/g++ -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/var/REL4/ src/i386/usr/include -I/var/REL4/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/../../../contrib/gperf/li b -I/var/REL4/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf -c /var/REL4/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/../../../ contrib/gperf/src/new.cc /var/REL4/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/../../../contrib/gperf/src/new.cc:80: warning: ` catch', `throw', and `try' are all C++ reserved words /var/REL4/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/../../../contrib/gperf/src/new.cc: In function ` void operator delete(void *)': /var/REL4/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/../../../contrib/gperf/src/new.cc:82: declaratio n of `operator delete(void *)' throws different exceptions... :82: ...from previous declaration here *** Error code 1 === end cut === or similar. Can anybody explain why to fix it? Or one must use 4.2-release as trampoline??? A month ago I asked this and Ruslan Ermilov sent me a patch, but this patch causes build fault also. /netch To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 10:39:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gekko.i-clue.de (server.ms-agentur.de [62.153.134.194]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7528037B719 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:39:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from so@server.i-clue.de) Received: from i-clue.de (automatix.i-clue.de [192.168.0.112]) by gekko.i-clue.de (8.9.3/8.9.3/SuSE Linux 8.9.3-0.1) with ESMTP id UAA04249; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 20:45:53 +0100 Message-ID: <3AA3DDAE.A7D253B@i-clue.de> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 19:40:46 +0100 From: Christoph Sold Reply-To: so@server.i-clue.de X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [de] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: netch@lucky.net Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: build 4-stable on 3-stable: how? References: <20010305201016.E86817@lucky.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Valentin Nechayev schrieb: > > A few last months, building of 4-stable on 3.4-stable system fails with > > === cut === > c++ -I/usr/obj/var/REL4/src/i386/usr/include/g++ -O -pipe -I/usr/obj/var/REL4/ > src/i386/usr/include -I/var/REL4/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/../../../contrib/gperf/li > b -I/var/REL4/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf -c /var/REL4/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/../../../ > contrib/gperf/src/new.cc > /var/REL4/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/../../../contrib/gperf/src/new.cc:80: warning: ` > catch', `throw', and `try' are all C++ reserved words > /var/REL4/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/../../../contrib/gperf/src/new.cc: In function ` > void operator delete(void *)': > /var/REL4/src/gnu/usr.bin/gperf/../../../contrib/gperf/src/new.cc:82: declaratio > n of `operator delete(void *)' throws different exceptions... > :82: ...from previous declaration here > *** Error code 1 > === end cut === > > or similar. > > Can anybody explain why to fix it? Or one must use 4.2-release as > trampoline??? A month ago I asked this and Ruslan Ermilov sent me a patch, > but this patch causes build fault also. AFAIR the way is 3.5-Stable -> 4.0-Release -> 4.2-Stable. Search teh archives for pitfalls... HTH -Christoph Sold To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 10:47:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zeus.carroll.com (zeus.carroll.com [199.224.10.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B171E37B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:47:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from damien@01.dhcp.hck.carroll.com) Received: from 01.dhcp.hck.carroll.com [216.44.16.2] by zeus.carroll.com with ESMTP (8.9.3/0) id NAA68484; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:47:36 -0500 (EST) Received: (from damien@localhost) by 01.dhcp.hck.carroll.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f25Ila979194 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:47:36 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from damien) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:47:36 -0500 From: Damien Tougas To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Errors when trying to build BIND from the stable src Message-ID: <20010305134736.C78733@carroll.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I am running 3.5-STABLE. I have a server on which BIND is dumping core quite regularly. I decided to cvsup my source tree and build BIND (rather than going through a complete make world) to see if there is some kind of bug I am encountering. This approach does not seem to work properly, I get errors and the make stops. I can post the errors if anyone is interested, however I suspect that the real reason this is happening is because I didn't make world. Is there a procedure that I should follow if I want to compile just one part of the whole source tree? -- Damien Tougas Systems Administrator Carroll-Net, Inc. http://www.carroll.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 10:56:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC9D137B719 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 10:56:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id 3DEAD1360C; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:56:39 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:56:39 -0500 From: Chris Faulhaber To: Damien Tougas Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Errors when trying to build BIND from the stable src Message-ID: <20010305135638.B38341@peitho.fxp.org> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Faulhaber , Damien Tougas , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20010305134736.C78733@carroll.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="rS8CxjVDS/+yyDmU" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010305134736.C78733@carroll.com>; from damien@carroll.com on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 01:47:36PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --rS8CxjVDS/+yyDmU Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 01:47:36PM -0500, Damien Tougas wrote: > Hello, >=20 > I am running 3.5-STABLE. >=20 > I have a server on which BIND is dumping core quite regularly. I > decided to cvsup my source tree and build BIND (rather than going > through a complete make world) to see if there is some kind of bug I > am encountering. This approach does not seem to work properly, I get > errors and the make stops. >=20 > I can post the errors if anyone is interested, however I suspect that > the real reason this is happening is because I didn't make world. Is > there a procedure that I should follow if I want to compile just one > part of the whole source tree?=20 >=20 ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/CERT/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-01:18.bind.asc --=20 Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org --rS8CxjVDS/+yyDmU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: FreeBSD: The Power To Serve iEYEARECAAYFAjqj4WYACgkQObaG4P6BelBW3gCeNjJbbEzbzqGBO+wuJxF+YoE4 S3oAoJeYgFvxVfwZOOE9PAHEbzxsjVam =fEQ7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --rS8CxjVDS/+yyDmU-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 11: 2:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tahoe.cinenet.net (ns1.cinenet.net [198.147.76.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B968D37B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:02:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mikey_nospam@singingtree.com) Received: from ember (pool.207.151.148.219.cinenet.net [207.151.148.219]) by tahoe.cinenet.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id LAA19218 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:02:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <00ca01c0a5a6$a5ee83c0$db9497cf@singingtree.com> From: "Michael A. Dickerson" To: Subject: Re: build 4-stable on 3-stable: how? Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:00:59 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Can anybody explain why to fix it? Or one must use 4.2-release as > trampoline??? A month ago I asked this and Ruslan Ermilov sent me a patch, > but this patch causes build fault also. There seem to be about n ways to do the upgrade, where n is the number of machines that have ever run FreeBSD 3.x. There was a great deal of discussion about this a few weeks ago, you can start by searching the -stable archives for "gperf"; that will get you in to all sorts of 3.5 -> 4.stable upgrade problems. Here is the procedure that worked for me, which was written and revised by Pekka Savola: ----- 1. install some tools that are required to build & install RELENG_4 with old tools: cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/libtxi && make cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/makeinfo && make all install cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo/install-info && make all install cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/texinfo && make all install clean edit /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/Makefile.cfg, comment out -fno-exceptions from CXXFLAGS cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/libgroff && make cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/groff/groff && make all install clean 2. build world without perl. miniperl requires setresuid which isn't there yet. Perl will be built and installed later. make buildworld -DNOPERL 3. build the kernel and install it. make buildkernel KERNCONF=xxx make installkernel KERNCONF=xxx 4. reboot (multiuser is fine, I use it all the time) reboot 5. install the tools, except perl which was not built ldconfig -R /usr/obj/usr/src/lib/libc cd /usr/src && make installworld -DNOPERL 6. build and install perl (and optionally sysinstall) cd /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl && make all install cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall && make all install 7. prepare for mergemaster cp -pr /etc /etc.backup mv /etc/sendmail.cf /etc/mail/ mv /etc/aliases* /etc/mail/ mv /etc/mail/sendmail.cw /etc/mail/local-host-names 8. mergemaster the way you like it, change over to OpenSSH, etc. (note: be especially careful about updating ssh; if you had an old port installed, there will be old copies of config files and binaries in /usr/local/sbin et al. make sure you're running the one you think you are! --MD) 9. change wd* -> ad* in /etc/fstab, create these devices in /dev. 10. clean out lastlog etc., the format changed rm /var/run/utmp /var/log/wtmp /var/log/lastlog touch /var/run/utmp /var/log/wtmp /var/log/lastlog 11. reboot and be done ;-) ----- Many people also report success going from 3.stable to 4.2-release, then to 4.stable. Good luck.. M.D. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 11: 7:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zeus.carroll.com (zeus.carroll.com [199.224.10.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2372137B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:07:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from damien@01.dhcp.hck.carroll.com) Received: from 01.dhcp.hck.carroll.com [216.44.16.2] by zeus.carroll.com with ESMTP (8.9.3/0) id OAA71022; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:07:42 -0500 (EST) Received: (from damien@localhost) by 01.dhcp.hck.carroll.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f25J7g879241; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:07:42 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from damien) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:07:41 -0500 From: Damien Tougas To: Chris Faulhaber Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Errors when trying to build BIND from the stable src Message-ID: <20010305140741.D78733@carroll.com> References: <20010305134736.C78733@carroll.com> <20010305135638.B38341@peitho.fxp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010305135638.B38341@peitho.fxp.org>; from jedgar@fxp.org on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 01:56:39PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks, >ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/CERT/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-01:18.bind.asc This is exactly what I need. -- Damien Tougas Systems Administrator Carroll-Net, Inc. http://www.carroll.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 11:13:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from omahpop1.omah.uswest.net (omahpop1.omah.uswest.net [204.26.64.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7068137B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:13:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hey9811@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 47280 invoked by alias); 5 Mar 2001 19:13:23 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org@fixme Received: (qmail 47275 invoked by uid 0); 5 Mar 2001 19:13:23 -0000 Received: from omah6400gw2poolc176.omah.uswest.net (HELO kristen.shadowdale.net) (63.227.158.176) by omahpop1.omah.uswest.net with SMTP; 5 Mar 2001 19:13:23 -0000 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:13:22 -0600 (CST) From: Virtual Bob To: FreeBSD-STABLE list Subject: installworld failes at "bin/cat" Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm wrestling with this for last two days or so... Help! This is 3.5-R, latest cvsup just this Mon morning. ... ===> bin ===> bin/cat install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 cat /bin /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec/elf/strip: /bin/stjr6327: Operation not permitted *** Error code 70 Stop. ... I first thought there was schg on /usr/libexec/elf/strip (root/wheel) , but it didn't (as it should be). As last resort, I moved /usr/libexec/elf/strip into a tmp directory and tried installedworld again. Same error, so I guess over-write wasn't the problem. kern.securelevel is at -1. I even cvsup'ed early Mon morning and rebuilt the world to see if it'll be any different, but the error stayed the same. /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec/elf/strip exists, root/wheel at around 333KB. File permission is 555, noschg. Grrrr... ------------- clip here with virtual scissors -------------- ************************************************************ Keyboard stuck error. Press F1 to continue. Any unsolicited e-mails will be charged US$500 per e-mail, plus court cost. Your contribution to Bill Gates' personal wealth: US$359.17 ************************************************************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 11:16:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from boromir.vpop.net (dns1.vpop.net [206.117.147.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4226737B719 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:16:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mreimer@vpop.net) Received: from vpop.net ([209.102.16.48]) by boromir.vpop.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f25JG8964020 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:16:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mreimer@vpop.net) Message-ID: <3AA3E61A.1EC86C40@vpop.net> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 11:16:42 -0800 From: Matthew Reimer Organization: VPOP Technologies, Inc. X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Softupdates panic "ffs_blkfree: bad size" on -stable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Last night one of our servers panicked with the message "ffs_blkfree: bad size." The kernel is from early March 4 (PST). Below is a backtrace and the versions of the files in /sys/ufs/ffs. I have a kernel dump for anyone interested in looking into this problem; email me and I'll get it to you. Hopefully this can be fixed before 4.3-RELEASE. Matt (kgdb) bt #0 dumpsys () at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:469 #1 0xc014d65b in boot (howto=260) at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:309 #2 0xc014d9f1 in panic (fmt=0xc022f5d4 "from debugger") at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:556 #3 0xc012cb29 in db_panic (addr=-1071586164, have_addr=0, count=-1, modif=0xccc23bdc "") at /usr/src/sys/ddb/db_command.c:433 #4 0xc012cac9 in db_command (last_cmdp=0xc02564a0, cmd_table=0xc0256300, aux_cmd_tablep=0xc026df5c) at /usr/src/sys/ddb/db_command.c:333 #5 0xc012cb8e in db_command_loop () at /usr/src/sys/ddb/db_command.c:455 #6 0xc012ec9b in db_trap (type=3, code=0) at /usr/src/sys/ddb/db_trap.c:71 #7 0xc020e22e in kdb_trap (type=3, code=0, regs=0xccc23ce4) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/db_interface.c:158 #8 0xc0219de8 in trap (frame={tf_fs = -859701232, tf_es = -1072431088, tf_ds = -1063059440, tf_edi = -1045659648, tf_esi = 256, tf_ebp = -859685588, tf_isp = -859685616, tf_ebx = -1071376747, tf_edx = 0, tf_ecx = 1021, tf_eax = 18, tf_trapno = 3, tf_err = 0, tf_eip = -1071586164, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 582, tf_esp = -1071338881, tf_ss = -1071426301}) at /usr/src/sys/i386/i386/trap.c:569 #9 0xc020e48c in Debugger (msg=0xc0235503 "panic") at machine/cpufunc.h:64 #10 0xc014d9e8 in panic (fmt=0xc0241695 "ffs_blkfree: bad size") at /usr/src/sys/kern/kern_shutdown.c:554 #11 0xc01d9527 in ffs_blkfree (ip=0xccc23e0c, bno=72020, size=8192) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_alloc.c:1320 #12 0xc01ddd1b in indir_trunc (ip=0xccc23e0c, dbn=16, level=0, lbn=12, countp=0xccc23dfc) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:2195 #13 0xc01ddad5 in handle_workitem_freeblocks (freeblks=0xc226f780) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:2095 #14 0xc01dbfd3 in process_worklist_item (matchmnt=0x0, flags=0) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:685 #15 0xc01dbe66 in softdep_process_worklist (matchmnt=0x0) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:584 #16 0xc0178c6f in sched_sync () at /usr/src/sys/kern/vfs_subr.c:1035 #17 0xc020eb9c in fork_trampoline () Cannot access memory at address 0x8000. (kgdb) frame 11 #11 0xc01d9527 in ffs_blkfree (ip=0xccc23e0c, bno=72020, size=8192) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_alloc.c:1320 1320 panic("ffs_blkfree: bad size"); (kgdb) l 1315 if ((u_int)size > fs->fs_bsize || fragoff(fs, size) != 0 || 1316 fragnum(fs, bno) + numfrags(fs, size) > fs->fs_frag) { 1317 printf("dev=%s, bno = %ld, bsize = %ld, size = %ld, fs = %s\n", 1318 devtoname(ip->i_dev), (long)bno, (long)fs->fs_bsize, size, 1319 fs->fs_fsmnt); 1320 panic("ffs_blkfree: bad size"); 1321 } 1322 cg = dtog(fs, bno); 1323 if ((u_int)bno >= fs->fs_size) { 1324 printf("bad block %ld, ino %lu\n", (kgdb) p size $8 = -859685364 (kgdb) frame 12 #12 0xc01ddd1b in indir_trunc (ip=0xccc23e0c, dbn=16, level=0, lbn=12, countp=0xccc23dfc) at /usr/src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c:2195 2195 ffs_blkfree(ip, nb, fs->fs_bsize); (kgdb) l 2190 if (level != 0) { 2191 if ((error = indir_trunc(ip, fsbtodb(fs, nb), 2192 level - 1, lbn + (i * lbnadd), countp)) != 0) 2193 allerror = error; 2194 } 2195 ffs_blkfree(ip, nb, fs->fs_bsize); 2196 *countp += nblocks; 2197 } 2198 bp->b_flags |= B_INVAL | B_NOCACHE; 2199 brelse(bp); (kgdb) p fs->fs_bsize $9 = 8192 $ ls -lt /sys/ufs/ffs/ total 366 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 147962 Mar 4 06:16 ffs_softdep.c -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 22090 Jan 22 15:43 fs.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 33540 Jan 22 15:43 ffs_vfsops.c -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 15475 Dec 28 15:01 ffs_inode.c -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 5747 Dec 28 15:01 ffs_softdep_stub.c -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 797 Jun 26 2000 README.softupdates -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 27595 Jun 22 2000 softdep.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 47375 Mar 28 2000 ffs_alloc.c -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 10833 Feb 24 2000 ffs_balloc.c -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 8278 Jan 10 2000 ffs_vnops.c -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 5631 Jan 9 2000 ffs_extern.h -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 6448 Dec 28 1999 ffs_subr.c -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 15134 Dec 2 1999 README -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 5940 Aug 27 1999 ffs_tables.c $ ident * README: $FreeBSD: src/sys/ufs/ffs/README,v 1.4 1999/12/03 00:34:26 billf Exp $ README.softupdates: $FreeBSD: src/sys/ufs/ffs/README.softupdates,v 1.7.2.1 2000/06/26 14:09:01 sheldonh Exp $ ffs_alloc.c: $FreeBSD: src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_alloc.c,v 1.64.2.1 2000/03/16 08:15:53 ps Exp $ ffs_balloc.c: $FreeBSD: src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_balloc.c,v 1.26 2000/02/24 20:43:20 dillon Exp $ ffs_extern.h: $FreeBSD: src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_extern.h,v 1.30 2000/01/09 22:40:02 mckusick Exp $ ffs_inode.c: $FreeBSD: src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_inode.c,v 1.56.2.2 2000/12/28 11:01:44 ps Exp $ ffs_softdep.c: $FreeBSD: src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep.c,v 1.57.2.9 2001/03/02 17:22:26 dillon Exp $ ffs_softdep_stub.c: $FreeBSD: src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_softdep_stub.c,v 1.7.2.1 2000/12/28 11:01:45 ps Exp $ ffs_subr.c: $FreeBSD: src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_subr.c,v 1.25 1999/12/29 04:55:04 peter Exp $ ffs_tables.c: $FreeBSD: src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_tables.c,v 1.7 1999/08/28 00:52:22 peter Exp $ ffs_vfsops.c: $FreeBSD: src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_vfsops.c,v 1.117.2.1 2001/01/22 18:10:27 iedowse Exp $ ffs_vnops.c: $FreeBSD: src/sys/ufs/ffs/ffs_vnops.c,v 1.64 2000/01/10 12:04:25 phk Exp $ fs.h: $FreeBSD: src/sys/ufs/ffs/fs.h,v 1.14.2.2 2001/01/22 18:10:28 iedowse Exp $ softdep.h: $FreeBSD: src/sys/ufs/ffs/softdep.h,v 1.7.2.1 2000/06/22 19:27:42 peter Exp $ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 11:44:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.ZSEA.zp.ua (ZSEA.zp.ua [212.8.40.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A63C537B719 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 11:44:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from laa@laa.zp.ua) Received: (from laa@localhost) by mx1.ZSEA.zp.ua (8.x.x/8.x.x) with œ id f25JiG500924 for stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:44:16 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from laa@laa.zp.ua)œ Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:44:16 +0200 From: "Alexandr A. Listopad" To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: -stable... Message-ID: <20010305214416.A836@laa.zp.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After upgrdae my FreeBSD box to latest -RELENG_4 I get it in all.log: Mar 5 21:40:00 Eagle /USR/SBIN/CRON[803]: (root) CMD (/usr/libexec/atrun) i.e. all cron-messages are writen in upper-case.... :-) -- Laa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 12: 6:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 195B437B71C for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:06:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA03059; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:06:16 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: "William Wong" Cc: Subject: Re: Keeping track of Changes? References: <004601c0a503$4ef3a850$0300a8c0@magus> From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 05 Mar 2001 21:06:16 +0100 In-Reply-To: "William Wong"'s message of "Sun, 4 Mar 2001 18:31:59 -0500" Message-ID: Lines: 10 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "William Wong" writes: > I'm just wondering how the developers keep track or what still needs to be > merged from -CURRENT to -STABLE. Is it just version numbers on particular > files? Most of us apply the well-known "It's all in me 'ead" technique. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 12: 8:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from flood.ping.uio.no (flood.ping.uio.no [129.240.78.31]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A00237B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 12:08:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) Received: (from des@localhost) by flood.ping.uio.no (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA03071; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:08:43 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from des@ofug.org) X-URL: http://www.ofug.org/~des/ X-Disclaimer: The views expressed in this message do not necessarily coincide with those of any organisation or company with which I am or have been affiliated. To: Martti Kuparinen Cc: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Different output from pkg_version References: From: Dag-Erling Smorgrav Date: 05 Mar 2001 21:08:42 +0100 In-Reply-To: Martti Kuparinen's message of "Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:38:44 +0200 (EET)" Message-ID: Lines: 13 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0802 (Gnus v5.8.2) Emacs/20.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Martti Kuparinen writes: > [...] > The only solution for my problem might be to reinstall the port so that > this ORIGIN-entry would be created. I haven't checked the source code > so I'm not 100% sure but this seems right so far... Your analysis is correct. Note that bash won't work any differently if you reinstall it, the only difference will be that pkg_version will be better able to tell what version you have. DES -- Dag-Erling Smorgrav - des@ofug.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 13:18:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6319E37B719 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:18:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 15ACE66EA3; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:18:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:18:18 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Sheldon Hearn Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildworld broken for non-root users Message-ID: <20010305131818.C85196@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <2557.983802310@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="cvVnyQ+4j833TQvp" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <2557.983802310@axl.fw.uunet.co.za>; from sheldonh@uunet.co.za on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 04:25:10PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --cvVnyQ+4j833TQvp Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 04:25:10PM +0200, Sheldon Hearn wrote: >=20 > For a while now, buildworld has been broken for non-root users: Works fine for me -- I've done about 20 of these over the weekend. Are you sure you don't have local changes or weird settings? Kris --cvVnyQ+4j833TQvp Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pAKaWry0BWjoQKURAmS/AKD1/0+OQRLA4b+ZAXLuAkX/pG70sgCg+8cZ lyuvwbebjM4f8Ux3YXWiJmk= =hIIP -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --cvVnyQ+4j833TQvp-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 13:20:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D329737B71D for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:20:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 5CC3366EA4; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:20:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:20:40 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Damien Tougas Cc: Chris Faulhaber , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Errors when trying to build BIND from the stable src Message-ID: <20010305132040.D85196@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <20010305134736.C78733@carroll.com> <20010305135638.B38341@peitho.fxp.org> <20010305140741.D78733@carroll.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0vzXIDBeUiKkjNJl" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010305140741.D78733@carroll.com>; from damien@carroll.com on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 02:07:41PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --0vzXIDBeUiKkjNJl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 02:07:41PM -0500, Damien Tougas wrote: > Thanks,=20 >=20 > >ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/CERT/advisories/FreeBSD-SA-01:18.bind.= asc >=20 > This is exactly what I need. Consider subscribing to one of the mailing lists which carry security advisories so next time your system won't be under root attack (possibly successful) for a month and a half before you notice it. Kris --0vzXIDBeUiKkjNJl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pAMnWry0BWjoQKURAoPTAKDcoqbfQXOzdGHGzj4+ifbE3GxbfQCg3dG9 FWYm+47ZpWqyoCKxBLTa9Ic= =9eZo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0vzXIDBeUiKkjNJl-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 13:21:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from prime.mj.com (prime.mj.com [207.5.75.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A789137B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:21:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john@mj.com) Received: from chimera.mj.com (chimera.mj.com [207.5.75.146]) by prime.mj.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f25LLjH89287 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:21:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from john@mj.com) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010305131723.00be58d0@mail.mj.com> X-Sender: john@mail.mj.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 13:21:43 -0800 To: From: John Mitchell Subject: Versions of Apache Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I notice there are multiple version of Apache in various ports packages: Apache13 1.3.17 Apache13-fp 1.3.17 Apache13+ipv6 1.3.19 Apache13-modssl 1.3.19 Apache13-ssl 1.3.12 Is this deliberate, or at the whim of the maintainers? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 13:23:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3170B37B719 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:23:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DCBE466EA3; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:23:30 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:23:30 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: John Mitchell Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Versions of Apache Message-ID: <20010305132330.E85196@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010305131723.00be58d0@mail.mj.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="zS7rBR6csb6tI2e1" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010305131723.00be58d0@mail.mj.com>; from john@mj.com on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 01:21:43PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --zS7rBR6csb6tI2e1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 01:21:43PM -0800, John Mitchell wrote: > I notice there are multiple version of Apache in various ports packages: >=20 > Apache13 1.3.17 > Apache13-fp 1.3.17 > Apache13+ipv6 1.3.19 > Apache13-modssl 1.3.19 > Apache13-ssl 1.3.12 >=20 > Is this deliberate, or at the whim of the maintainers? The latter. Kris --zS7rBR6csb6tI2e1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pAPSWry0BWjoQKURAg+DAJ9224gVBVJadAO4WOkkXAPaGn1KuACg+80J 12NDAgv2GgWNfduKQnx4VwQ= =xvDc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --zS7rBR6csb6tI2e1-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 13:25:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F37A637B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:25:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id ADECB66EA4; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:25:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:25:41 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Eric Dannewitz Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: And Apache Problems Message-ID: <20010305132541.F85196@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <20010304020209.A29788@mollari.cthul.hu> <3AA2188A.BCDEEF14@jazz-sax.com> <3AA255EB.3110C7E0@jazz-sax.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="C94crkcyjafcjHxo" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AA255EB.3110C7E0@jazz-sax.com>; from ericdano@jazz-sax.com on Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 06:49:15AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --C94crkcyjafcjHxo Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 06:49:15AM -0800, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > procedure that I did. >=20 > make buildworld > shutdown now > mount -u / > mount -a -t ufs > swapon -a > cd /usr/src > make installworld >=20 > Then I also upgrade the kernel as suggested on the online freebsd.org. I'= ve > updated my system regularly since January. >=20 > Problem seems to be that Apache and Perl are not happy with something in = the > latest Stable. Apache 1.3.12 would not start, giving me an error > "/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 undefined pl_stack_max". Hmm, nothing should have changed with Perl. What was the date you were upg= rading from? Kris --C94crkcyjafcjHxo Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pARVWry0BWjoQKURAnNmAJ9Q51ZvDIyP/Aei4Clw+ueaufhfOgCdFUWu ScvHopDfllamk/vdjbGXEq8= =rVZF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C94crkcyjafcjHxo-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 13:41:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from taltos.taltos.org (64-6-187-7.sfo3.phoenixdsl.net [64.6.187.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E63337B71A for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:41:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from carson@taltos.org) Received: from [10.10.1.2] (athyra.taltos.org [10.10.1.2]) by taltos.taltos.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 810E0283C9; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:41:11 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 13:41:13 -0800 From: Carson Gaspar To: Kris Kennaway Cc: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: wchan kqread Message-ID: <44748046.983799673@[10.10.1.2]> In-Reply-To: <20010303163114.B51808@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <20010303163114.B51808@mollari.cthul.hu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.1.0a2 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --On Saturday, March 03, 2001 4:31 PM -0800 Kris Kennaway wrote: > This has never been the case; the main culprits are things like top > and ps which rely (relied - it's fixed in -current) on struct proc > which changes size fairly regularly, but there are others. We're > trying to move away from that by more sensible exporting of data > structures, but this is the way it's always been. So why the !@#$%$%^ is this stuff changing in -STABLE? One would _hope_ that -STABLE was for bug-fixes, not for gratuitous feature changes. If I wanted my APIs to change daily, I'd run -CURRENT. -- Carson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 13:47:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from taltos.taltos.org (64-6-187-7.sfo3.phoenixdsl.net [64.6.187.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6F4A37B719 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:47:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from carson@taltos.org) Received: from [10.10.1.2] (athyra.taltos.org [10.10.1.2]) by taltos.taltos.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63939283C9 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:47:23 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 13:47:25 -0800 From: Carson Gaspar Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: more strange problem with broken pipes and ssh Message-ID: <45119937.983800045@[10.10.1.2]> In-Reply-To: <200103040318.TAA25378@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> References: <200103040318.TAA25378@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.1.0a2 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --On Saturday, March 03, 2001 7:18 PM -0800 Don Lewis wrote: > } > grep: writing output: Broken pipe > I'm seeing this problem with makewhatis. I believe the problem is > that sshd is setting the SIGPIPE handler to SIG_IGN, so when you > run a pipeline of processes and the reader exits early, the writer > gets an EPIPE error instead of getting silently killed with a SIGPIPE. > > I believe the fix is to call "signal(SIGPIPE, SIG_DFL)" in do_exec_pty() > in session.c. > > I wonder if this problem might be shell dependent. Maybe some shells > reset SIGPIPE to SIG_DFL and some don't modify whatever they inherit. > I'm seeing the problem with csh. What shells are everyone else running? Any app that cares about SIGPIPE should set it appropriately. If makewhatis and grep don't, please fix makewhatis and grep. That _doesn't_ mean that we shouldn't make sure SSH leaves things mostly the same way other login sessions do, just that we should _also_ fix broken programs. -- Carson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 13:52:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from taltos.taltos.org (64-6-187-7.sfo3.phoenixdsl.net [64.6.187.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 167EC37B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:52:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from carson@taltos.org) Received: from [10.10.1.2] (athyra.taltos.org [10.10.1.2]) by taltos.taltos.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4556F283C9 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:52:15 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 13:52:16 -0800 From: Carson Gaspar Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Did ipfw fwd just break? Message-ID: <45411812.983800336@[10.10.1.2]> In-Reply-To: <20010304012338.A52971@pit.databus.com> References: <20010304012338.A52971@pit.databus.com> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.1.0a2 (Win32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --On Sunday, March 04, 2001 1:23 AM -0500 Barney Wolff wrote: > I question whether this complexity is necessary. The effect of the > tranparent proxying could just as well have been achieved by > translating to an alias address that is assigned to the interface, > rather than to localhost, right? Simpler is better, in the kernel. But that means that your proxy has to be bound to the interface address, and something could connect to it directly that didn't get redirected there by ipfw. Localhost is the right thing to do. (Of course, I use ipfilter... ;-) -- Carson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 13:54: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailc.telia.com (mailc.telia.com [194.22.190.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56EEF37B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:53:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: from d1o913.telia.com (d1o913.telia.com [195.252.44.241]) by mailc.telia.com (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f25LrwT26914 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:53:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from ertr1013.student.uu.se (h35n2fls20o913.telia.com [212.181.163.35]) by d1o913.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id WAA26843 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:53:56 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 3550 invoked by uid 1001); 5 Mar 2001 21:54:06 -0000 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:54:06 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: wchan kqread Message-ID: <20010305225405.A3534@student.uu.se> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD-stable References: <20010303163114.B51808@mollari.cthul.hu> <44748046.983799673@[10.10.1.2]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <44748046.983799673@[10.10.1.2]>; from carson@taltos.org on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 01:41:13PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 01:41:13PM -0800, Carson Gaspar wrote: > > > --On Saturday, March 03, 2001 4:31 PM -0800 Kris Kennaway > wrote: > > > This has never been the case; the main culprits are things like top > > and ps which rely (relied - it's fixed in -current) on struct proc > > which changes size fairly regularly, but there are others. We're > > trying to move away from that by more sensible exporting of data > > structures, but this is the way it's always been. > > So why the !@#$%$%^ is this stuff changing in -STABLE? One would _hope_ > that -STABLE was for bug-fixes, not for gratuitous feature changes. If I > wanted my APIs to change daily, I'd run -CURRENT. > -STABLE is for bug-fixes and *well-tested* new features. If you don't want new features you shouldn't upgrade. The changes in struct proc and similar things are rarely gratuitious and if you follow the recommended upgrade procedure you will have few if any problems. Also remember that if new features were never merged from -CURRENT to -STABLE you would have to wait a long time for news features which would probably significantly reduce the popularity of FreeBSD. Basically your hopes and wishes are not in sync with reality nor with the wishes of the developers of FreeBSD and probably not with the majority of users either. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 13:54:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from equinox.datasyrge.net (ool-18ba2d21.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.45.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F336337B71A for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:54:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jslivko@datasyrge.net) Received: from localhost (jslivko@localhost) by equinox.datasyrge.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA13605 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:57:08 -0500 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:57:08 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: FreeBSD Stable Mailing List Subject: 31337 -- another possibility? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In the ports collection, there is a fake BO server used by sysadmins to catch users who are trying to abuse BO, etc. Couldn't that just be the trace of that program? I think it's listed in the ports as boserver or something like that. I'd have to check because i'm not sure, but I know there is something like that in the ports because I have used it in the past, even though I don't find it very reliable or helpful to my system in any way. -- Jonathan M. Slivko -- |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Jonathan M. Slivko | | Global IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Networks | | Webpage: http://jslivko.datasyrge.net/ | | | |"Microsoft, is that some kind of toilet paper? | |"FreeeBSD: The Power to Serve -- www.freebsd.org" | |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 13:55:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B6B1537B71A for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:55:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ntaflos.andreas@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 32257 invoked by uid 0); 5 Mar 2001 21:55:36 -0000 Received: from tk212017108240.univie.teleweb.at (HELO Bender.ANT) (212.17.108.240) by mail.gmx.net (mp018-rz3) with SMTP; 5 Mar 2001 21:55:36 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by Bender.ANT (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f25Ls7H01529; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:54:07 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from root) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:54:07 +0100 From: Andreas Ntaflos To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: color printing under FreeBSD 4.2-S Message-ID: <20010305225407.A1513@Bender.ANT> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I've got a working HP Dj930C USB under freebsd 4.2, ghostscript and plain text (no .doc files though). What I am wondering is how I can get color-printing to work. Several months ago, I already had this working, but I just can't recall what I did to get color output. It was something with some sort of special program (ghostscript? who knows?) with some sort of special something to enable support for a special something printer. So can anyone point me to the documentation for getting color-printing to work? I just can't remember what it was. Thanks, and regards -- Andreas Ntaflos, ANT ntaflos.andreas@gmx.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 14: 3:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.jazz-sax.com (adsl-64-163-65-116.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.163.65.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AE0137B719 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:03:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ericdano@jazz-sax.com) Received: from jazz-sax.com (adsl-64-163-65-114.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.163.65.114]) by freebsd.jazz-sax.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f25M4El12836; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:04:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ericdano@jazz-sax.com) Message-ID: <3AA40D6A.41EF7CC8@jazz-sax.com> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 14:04:26 -0800 From: Eric Dannewitz Reply-To: ericdano@jazz-sax.com Organization: Jazz-Sax X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: And Apache Problems References: <20010304020209.A29788@mollari.cthul.hu> <3AA2188A.BCDEEF14@jazz-sax.com> <3AA255EB.3110C7E0@jazz-sax.com> <20010305132541.F85196@mollari.cthul.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Saturday night, which was 3/3/2001 Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Sun, Mar 04, 2001 at 06:49:15AM -0800, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > > procedure that I did. > > > > make buildworld > > shutdown now > > mount -u / > > mount -a -t ufs > > swapon -a > > cd /usr/src > > make installworld > > > > Then I also upgrade the kernel as suggested on the online freebsd.org. I've > > updated my system regularly since January. > > > > Problem seems to be that Apache and Perl are not happy with something in the > > latest Stable. Apache 1.3.12 would not start, giving me an error > > "/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 undefined pl_stack_max". > > Hmm, nothing should have changed with Perl. What was the date you were upgrading from? > > Kris > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Part 1.2Type: application/pgp-signature -- Back up my hard disk? I can't find the reverse switch! Eric Dannewitz - Adventurer, saxophonist, good-timer (crook? quite possibly), clarinetist, manic self-publicist, part-time flautist(flutist?), macintosher, and often thought to be completely out to lunch. http://www.jazz-sax.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 14: 5: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freebsd.jazz-sax.com (adsl-64-163-65-116.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.163.65.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 957E337B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:04:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ericdano@jazz-sax.com) Received: from jazz-sax.com (adsl-64-163-65-114.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net [64.163.65.114]) by freebsd.jazz-sax.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f25M5ml12876; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:05:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ericdano@jazz-sax.com) Message-ID: <3AA40DC8.D3257372@jazz-sax.com> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 14:06:00 -0800 From: Eric Dannewitz Reply-To: ericdano@jazz-sax.com Organization: Jazz-Sax X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Patrick Bihan-Faou Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: And Apache Problems References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ah. Ok. Any suggestions on a quick way to do that? My Perl skills are not all that great...... I tried to reinstall via CPAN but that seemed to fail......... Is there like a perl recompile all or something? Patrick Bihan-Faou wrote: > Hi, > > I did an upgrade on saturday and experience the same kind of problems > described below. The basic problem is that perl modules compiled before the > upgrade can not load properly anymore. In order to fix this I had to > recompile all the perl modules I am using to return to a functional system. > > The modules that need to be recompiled are the ones that rely on C code and > hence create shared libraries that are loaded when a "use xyz;" is done in > perl. > > Good luck. > > Patrick. > > "Eric Dannewitz" wrote in message > news:<3AA255EB.3110C7E0@jazz-sax.com>... > > procedure that I did. > > > > make buildworld > > shutdown now > > mount -u / > > mount -a -t ufs > > swapon -a > > cd /usr/src > > make installworld > > > > Then I also upgrade the kernel as suggested on the online freebsd.org. > I've > > updated my system regularly since January. > > > > Problem seems to be that Apache and Perl are not happy with something in > the > > latest Stable. Apache 1.3.12 would not start, giving me an error > > "/usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 undefined pl_stack_max". > > > > And with perl, all the modules and bundles seem to have gotten screwed up. > I could > > not get perl -MCPAN -e shell then install Bundle::CPAN to work at all. It > would > > error out in various places, citing that MD5 was missing. That was never a > problem > > before. > > > > I restored from a backup I made last weekend of my 4.2 stable system, and > > everything is working fine now, including Apache and Perl. I can and just > did > > install the latest CPAN Bundle. So, whatever happened seems gone now. > > > > I'm a little leery about stable now. I was having no problems updating my > server > > every weekend with CVSUP and then doing make buildworld, etc...... > > > > Wolfgang Zenker wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > > The latest build of 4.2 Stable seems to have TOTALLY messed up Perl > for me. I > > > > can't get Perl to work. My Slashdot type site won't start. > > > > > > > All I did was CVSUP stable (like in the examples folder), and did a > make > > > > buildworld, then a make installworld. I've done this quite regularly > and this > > > > is the FIRST time I've had problems.......... > > > > > > Did you just forget to mention make buildkernel and make installkernel > or > > > did you really just upgrade the world without upgrading your kernel? > > > If the latter, thats probably the cause of your problems. > > > > > > Wolfgang > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- Back up my hard disk? I can't find the reverse switch! Eric Dannewitz - Adventurer, saxophonist, good-timer (crook? quite possibly), clarinetist, manic self-publicist, part-time flautist(flutist?), macintosher, and often thought to be completely out to lunch. http://www.jazz-sax.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 14: 6: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2CC637B721 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:05:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f25M5b619877; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:05:37 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010305164530.023ce320@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 16:59:45 -0500 To: Carson Gaspar From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: more strange problem with broken pipes and ssh Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <45119937.983800045@[10.10.1.2]> References: <200103040318.TAA25378@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> <200103040318.TAA25378@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 01:47 PM 3/5/01 -0800, Carson Gaspar wrote: >Any app that cares about SIGPIPE should set it appropriately. If >makewhatis and grep don't, please fix makewhatis and grep. That _doesn't_ >mean that we shouldn't make sure SSH leaves things mostly the same way >other login sessions do, just that we should _also_ fix broken programs. I dont pretend to fully understand the nature of the problem, but if its an issue with the app, why does this not surface when connecting with older versions sshd, nor with telnetd or rlogind ? Also, if you login physically on the console, its different than logging in over the network. ---Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 14: 8:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08BAF37B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:08:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f25M7d620176; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:07:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010305170015.03711010@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 17:01:48 -0500 To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: more strange problem with broken pipes and ssh Cc: , Don Lewis , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200103041525.f24FP9p07304@cwsys.cwsent.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 07:24 AM 3/4/01 -0800, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: >Back to the SSH topic at hand: Kerberos is not a factor in OpenSSH on >the systems I tested. Are you logged in on the physical console ? If so, the behaviour does not manifest itself from here. Try ssh localhost, and see if you can see the behaviour ? ---Mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 14: 9:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB4A37B71A for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:09:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oberman@ptavv.es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f25M9DL22452 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:09:13 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103052209.f25M9DL22452@ptavv.es.net> To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Annoying gotcha with soft updates Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 14:09:13 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have recently run into what appears to be a small gotcha (not exactly a bug) with the use of soft updates on the root partition. This could also apply to the /usr partition, as well, I suppose, but not as likely there. I have my laptop configured with the normal 50 MB root partition. I also have enabled soft updates on root. This all works very nicely except when I update my system. I can't so an installworld with soft updates turned on. I invariably get a failure with the root partition full. If I turn off soft updates, the installworld runs fine. I believe the problem lies in the way soft updates deals with deleted files. It seems to only add them to the free space on a periodic basis. I delete a VERY large file and I don't see the free space increase for a while. My root partition typically runs about 75-80% full, but the space used climbs when /sbin files are installed followed by the inevitable. With soft updates turned off, I don't see this happen. Unless I have mis-analyzed something, it might be advisable to recommend 'tunefs -n disable /' after booting to single user mode if soft updates are running on the root partition. IS this the case or am I missing something? R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 14:14: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fw.wintelcom.net (ns1.wintelcom.net [209.1.153.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 758CC37B719 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:14:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bright@fw.wintelcom.net) Received: (from bright@localhost) by fw.wintelcom.net (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f25ME4r09314; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:14:04 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:14:04 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein To: Kevin Oberman Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Annoying gotcha with soft updates Message-ID: <20010305141404.A8663@fw.wintelcom.net> References: <200103052209.f25M9DL22452@ptavv.es.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103052209.f25M9DL22452@ptavv.es.net>; from oberman@es.net on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 02:09:13PM -0800 X-all-your-base: are belong to us. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Kevin Oberman [010305 14:09] wrote: > I have recently run into what appears to be a small gotcha (not exactly > a bug) with the use of soft updates on the root partition. This could > also apply to the /usr partition, as well, I suppose, but not as > likely there. > > I have my laptop configured with the normal 50 MB root partition. I > also have enabled soft updates on root. This all works very nicely > except when I update my system. I can't so an installworld with > soft updates turned on. I invariably get a failure with the root > partition full. If I turn off soft updates, the installworld runs > fine. > > I believe the problem lies in the way soft updates deals with deleted > files. It seems to only add them to the free space on a periodic > basis. I delete a VERY large file and I don't see the free space > increase for a while. > > My root partition typically runs about 75-80% full, but the space used > climbs when /sbin files are installed followed by the inevitable. With > soft updates turned off, I don't see this happen. > > Unless I have mis-analyzed something, it might be advisable to > recommend 'tunefs -n disable /' after booting to single user mode if > soft updates are running on the root partition. > > IS this the case or am I missing something? This is basically why we don't ship with softupdates on all partitions. It's sort of odd to me that when a FS runs out of space or is low on space it doesn't put backpressure on the syncer to speed up deletions... or halt giving more space to applications until the softdeps have been resolved. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 14:20:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns.itga.com.au (ns.itga.com.au [202.53.40.210]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A60537B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:20:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from lightning.itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by ns.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA74073; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:20:36 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from gnb@itga.com.au) Received: from itga.com.au (lightning.itga.com.au [192.168.71.20]) by lightning.itga.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA29725; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:20:36 +1100 (EST) Message-Id: <200103052220.JAA29725@lightning.itga.com.au> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.0.1 12/23/97 From: Gregory Bond To: "Kevin Oberman" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Annoying gotcha with soft updates In-reply-to: Your message of Mon, 05 Mar 2001 14:09:13 -0800. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 09:20:36 +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > IS this the case or am I missing something? No, your analysis is correct. This is a well-known gotcha with softupdates and small partitions. In my case, it usually failed installing /bin/sh, with the obvious nasty consequences! Put /tmp on a ramdisk and /var in its own partition and there is no need for softupdates on /. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 14:23:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B0537B718; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 14:23:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f25MNda26350; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 17:23:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <200103052223.f25MNda26350@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Andreas Ntaflos Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Image-URL: http://www.transsys.com/louie/images/louie-mail.jpg From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: color printing under FreeBSD 4.2-S References: <20010305225407.A1513@Bender.ANT> In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 05 Mar 2001 22:54:07 +0100." <20010305225407.A1513@Bender.ANT> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 17:23:39 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If you're using the apsfilter port, and it thinks you're using the hpdj Ghostscript driver, than try this when you print the file: lpr -Ccmyk foo.ps Look at the apsfilter script-from-hell to see why this "helps." If you're not using apsfilter, I dunno. louie To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 15:23:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D1D737B74F for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:23:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from hornet.unixfreak.org (hornet [63.198.170.140]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E88F93E09; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:23:28 -0800 (PST) To: Virtual Bob Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE list Subject: Re: installworld failes at "bin/cat" In-Reply-To: ; from hey9811@yahoo.com on "Mon, 5 Mar 2001 13:13:22 -0600 (CST)" Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 15:23:28 -0800 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010305232328.E88F93E09@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Virtual Bob writes: > I'm wrestling with this for last two days or so... Help! This is 3.5-R, > latest cvsup just this Mon morning. > > ... > ===> bin > ===> bin/cat > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 cat /bin > /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec/elf/strip: /bin/stjr6327: Operation not > permitted > *** Error code 70 It looks like you have schg on /bin (the directory). Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 15:31:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu [18.24.4.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3EAF437B719 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:31:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu) Received: (from wollman@localhost) by khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) id SAA57724; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:31:20 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wollman) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:31:20 -0500 (EST) From: Garrett Wollman Message-Id: <200103052331.SAA57724@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu> To: oberman@es.net Subject: Re: Annoying gotcha with soft updates X-Newsgroups: mit.lcs.mail.freebsd-stable In-Reply-To: <200103052209.f25M9DL22452@ptavv.es.net> Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In article <200103052209.f25M9DL22452@ptavv.es.net> you write: >I believe the problem lies in the way soft updates deals with deleted >files. It seems to only add them to the free space on a periodic >basis. Yes. Kirk told me that he has a fix for this. I proposed to him that the summary information ought to be updated immediately once the kernel is committed to freeing space, even if the space isn't actually free yet. Unfortunately, this leads either to POLA violation (statfs() claims there is space free but allocations fail) or a deadlock arising from the way locking is done in the filesystem code. As a result of some work Kirk did on soft updates for Yahoo! it is now possible to avoid the deadlock, but the actual behavior hasn't been changed yet. I think it should be fixed for 5.0. -GAWollman -- Garrett A. Wollman | O Siem / We are all family / O Siem / We're all the same wollman@lcs.mit.edu | O Siem / The fires of freedom Opinions not those of| Dance in the burning flame MIT, LCS, CRS, or NSA| - Susan Aglukark and Chad Irschick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 15:38:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from balzac.cybercable.fr (balzac.cybercable.fr [212.198.0.198]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AE6EC37B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:38:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from clefevre@poboxes.com) Received: (qmail 28970087 invoked from network); 5 Mar 2001 23:38:13 -0000 Received: from d165.dhcp212-231.cybercable.fr (HELO gits.dyndns.org) ([212.198.231.165]) (envelope-sender ) by balzac.cybercable.fr (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 5 Mar 2001 23:38:13 -0000 Received: (from root@localhost) by gits.dyndns.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f25Nc8l11270; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:38:08 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from clefevre@poboxes.com) To: Virtual Bob Cc: Mike Smith , FreeBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: where's /usr/mdec?? References: X-Face: V|+c;4!|B?E%BE^{E6);aI.[<97Zd*>^#%Y5Cxv;%Y[PT-LW3;A:fRrJ8+^k"e7@+30g0YD0*^^3jgyShN7o?a]C la*Zv'5NA,=963bM%J^o]C In-Reply-To: Virtual Bob's message of "Sun, 4 Mar 2001 21:08:36 -0600 (CST)" From: Cyrille Lefevre Reply-To: clefevre@poboxes.com Mail-Copies-To: never Date: 06 Mar 2001 00:38:02 +0100 Message-ID: Lines: 27 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) XEmacs/21.1 (Channel Islands) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Virtual Bob writes: > # place boot blocks > disklabel -w -B -b /usr/mdec/fdboot -s /usr/mdec/bootfd /dev/rfd0 fd1440 just use disklabel -w -B /dev/rfd0 fd1440 disklabel combines /boot/boot1 and /boot/boot2 as they are needed. man disklabel says : Installing bootstraps ... 3. Otherwise, the default boot image names are used: /boot/boot1 and /boot/boot2 for the standard stage1 and stage2 boot images (details > I see boot0, boot1, and that humongous boot2 in /boot. How do I use those? > Or has everything changed in regard to make a bootable floppy? /boot/boot0 and /boot/mbr (default) are used by fdisk. the first one is the BootEasy boot manager while the second one is a standard MS-DOS like boot manager. Cyrille. -- home: mailto:clefevre@poboxes.com UNIX is user-friendly; it's just particular work: mailto:Cyrille.Lefevre@edf.fr about who it chooses to be friends with. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 15:55:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from phobos.talarian.com (mailhost.talarian.com [207.5.32.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 59EA837B71B; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:55:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nsayer@quack.kfu.com) Received: from quack.kfu.com ([10.4.10.6]) by phobos.talarian.com (8.9.0/8.9.0) with ESMTP id PAA09346; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 15:55:32 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <3AA42769.6090805@quack.kfu.com> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 15:55:21 -0800 From: Nick Sayer User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386; en-US; 0.8) Gecko/20010216 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Don Lewis Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/netinet ip_input.c References: <200103052318.f25NImi08134@freefall.freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Don Lewis wrote: > truckman 2001/03/05 15:18:48 PST > > Modified files: (Branch: RELENG_4) > sys/netinet ip_input.c > Log: > MFC: 1.158 - 1.161 > [...] > > > Attempt to optimize the order of the tests. > > Also, disable unicast IP address vs. arrival interface checking by default > for POLA reasons. [...] > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/sys/netinet/ip_input.c.diff?r1=1.130.2.19&r2=1.130.2.20 For what it's worth, this checking will likely break the merlinmon port if enabled, as the packets that the Merlin/Sage devices send have the source address "forged" to be that of the host's IP address. For example, if the host gets an IP address of 192.9.200.4, then merlinmon will send UDP packets from 192.9.200.4 to 10.0.0.1 over the PPP link, and the replies will arrive from 192.9.200.4 to 192.9.200.4 over that same PPP link (the protocol merlinmon uses is a means to query connection status from the modem. The Merlin/Sage will intercept UDP requests to a particular IP/port and reply. Unfortunately, the reply packet addressing does not mirror the source). I've taken Novatel to task over this. This behavior keeps merlinmon from working natively on Linux without going into their IP stack and ripping this same check out. They don't seem to be willing to fix this, unfortunately (nor do they wish to fix their misinterpretation of MRU negotiation, but that's a whole 'nother story). Don't get me wrong - I am all for the change. I'm really only sending this message so that the answer to "why doesn't merlinmon work anymore?" can be found in the mailing list archives. :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 16:20:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com [24.6.21.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B130F37B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:20:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from conrads@cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f260O9212024 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:24:09 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from conrads) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 18:24:08 -0600 (CST) From: Conrad Sabatier To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Kudos to the -stable commiters! Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You guys deserve a word of praise for doing such an excellent job of fixing up the problems we were having yesterday with the stable source tree in such a short period of time. I am truly in awe of you! ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Conrad Sabatier Date: 05-Mar-01 Time: 18:21:35 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 16:23:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com [24.6.21.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2192737B719 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 16:23:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from conrads@cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com) Received: (from conrads@localhost) by cx344940-a.meta1.la.home.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f260Qi012049; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:26:44 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from conrads) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <200103051721.f25HLjd77377@harmony.village.org> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 18:26:44 -0600 (CST) From: Conrad Sabatier To: Warner Losh Subject: Re: buildworld failure (3-4-2001 cvsup) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "Alexandr A. Listopad" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 05-Mar-01 Warner Losh wrote: > In message Conrad Sabatier writes: >: Fix one thing, break another. :-) > > Fix one thing, find the next thing that's broken. These two were > unrelated. Yeah, I know. It *was* kind of a silly thing to say. Just this habit of mine of always wanting to end an e-mail with some sort of closing phrase or whatever. Anyway, I'm happy to see the results today of the outstanding work done by those who committed changes to the -stable tree between yesterday and today. Beautiful job! No closing phrase this time. :-) ---------------------------------- E-Mail: Conrad Sabatier Date: 05-Mar-01 Time: 18:24:16 This message was sent by XFMail ---------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 18:28:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BE0037B71A; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:28:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f262RnH25871; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:27:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: developers@freebsd.org Subject: We are now frozen! X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010305182748S.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 18:27:48 -0800 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 6 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The code freeze in -stable is now in effect. Please pass all commits through me until I declare the freeze over. Thanks! I look forward to making 4.3 one of the best releases yet since it has all the hallmarks so far... - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 18:43:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.viasoft.com.cn (unknown [61.153.1.177]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D8C337B719; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:42:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bsddiy@21cn.com) Received: from William ([192.168.1.98]) by mail.viasoft.com.cn (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA05304; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:39:15 +0800 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:48:22 +0800 From: David Xu X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.48f) Personal Reply-To: David Xu Organization: Viasoft X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <218001655.20010306104822@viasoft.com.cn> To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: stable@freebsd.org, developers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: We are now frozen! In-reply-To: <20010305182748S.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> References: <20010305182748S.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Jordan, Tuesday, March 06, 2001, 10:27:48 AM, you wrote: JH> The code freeze in -stable is now in effect. Please pass all JH> commits through me until I declare the freeze over. Thanks! JH> I look forward to making 4.3 one of the best releases yet JH> since it has all the hallmarks so far... JH> - Jordan JH> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org JH> with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message sigh, it seems syscons bug is still in 4.2-STABLE tree, but fixed in CURRENT tree few minutes ago, do you want to reject MFC? could you delay frozen? -- Best regards, David Xu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 18:49:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ohm.physics.purdue.edu (ohm.physics.purdue.edu [128.210.146.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53E1937B719; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 18:49:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from will@physics.purdue.edu) Received: (from will@localhost) by ohm.physics.purdue.edu (8.11.2/8.9.3) id f262oNT37874; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:50:23 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from will@physics.purdue.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: ohm.physics.purdue.edu: will set sender to will@physics.purdue.edu using -f Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:50:23 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: David Xu Cc: Jordan Hubbard , stable@FreeBSD.org, developers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: We are now frozen! Message-ID: <20010305215022.R31975@ohm.physics.purdue.edu> Reply-To: Will Andrews Mail-Followup-To: Will Andrews , David Xu , Jordan Hubbard , stable@FreeBSD.org, developers@FreeBSD.org References: <20010305182748S.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <218001655.20010306104822@viasoft.com.cn> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="W1G4cAX3lNqeBRc9" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <218001655.20010306104822@viasoft.com.cn>; from bsddiy@21cn.com on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 10:48:22AM +0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --W1G4cAX3lNqeBRc9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 10:48:22AM +0800, David Xu wrote: > sigh, it seems syscons bug is still in 4.2-STABLE tree, > but fixed in CURRENT tree few minutes ago, do you want > to reject MFC? could you delay frozen? Frozen doesn't mean more bugs can't be fixed. They just have to be approved by Jordan first. --=20 wca --W1G4cAX3lNqeBRc9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.3 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pFBuF47idPgWcsURAi+iAJ4zuJn3AjEMbFGWlh1pUHe9ymauJQCdF4tS o0c6hPjQqPWC1MxfTeCQG5g= =6a8p -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --W1G4cAX3lNqeBRc9-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 19:26:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from omahpop1.omah.uswest.net (omahpop1.omah.uswest.net [204.26.64.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E3A8D37B718 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 19:26:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from hey9811@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 83164 invoked by alias); 6 Mar 2001 03:26:11 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org@fixme Received: (qmail 83159 invoked by uid 0); 6 Mar 2001 03:26:11 -0000 Received: from omah6400gw2poolc176.omah.uswest.net (HELO kristen.shadowdale.net) (63.227.158.176) by omahpop1.omah.uswest.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2001 03:26:11 -0000 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:26:02 -0600 (CST) From: Virtual Bob Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE list Subject: Re: installworld failes at "bin/cat" In-Reply-To: <20010305232328.E88F93E09@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > ... > > ===> bin > > ===> bin/cat > > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 cat /bin > > /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec/elf/strip: /bin/stjr6327: Operation not > > permitted > > *** Error code 70 > > It looks like you have schg on /bin (the directory). Yup, I sure did. Son of a gun... Didn't know it would cause problems. I actually remembered to do noschg on /bin/* and /sbin/* before installworld, but didn't change the flags on the directories themselves thinking that wouldn't be a problem. Rats. ------------- clip here with virtual scissors -------------- ************************************************************ Keyboard stuck error. Press F1 to continue. Any unsolicited e-mails will be charged US$500 per e-mail, plus court cost. Your contribution to Bill Gates' personal wealth: US$359.17 ************************************************************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 19:36:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16C1437B724 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 19:36:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id TAA13459; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 19:35:43 -0800 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda13457; Mon Mar 5 19:35:31 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f263ZQW69296; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 19:35:26 -0800 (PST) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdi69291; Mon Mar 5 19:34:55 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f263Ytu30404; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 19:34:55 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103060334.f263Ytu30404@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdA30395; Mon Mar 5 19:34:46 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: Mike Tancsa Cc: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group , Don Lewis , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: more strange problem with broken pipes and ssh In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 05 Mar 2001 17:01:48 EST." <5.0.2.1.0.20010305170015.03711010@marble.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2001 19:34:45 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <5.0.2.1.0.20010305170015.03711010@marble.sentex.ca>, Mike Tancsa wr ites: > At 07:24 AM 3/4/01 -0800, Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group wrote: > > >Back to the SSH topic at hand: Kerberos is not a factor in OpenSSH on > >the systems I tested. > > > Are you logged in on the physical console ? If so, the behaviour does not > manifest itself from here. Try ssh localhost, and see if you can see the > behaviour ? My tests were performed using Xterm sessions running on my P120 system that were displayed back to my 486DX33 X terminal system. The system I had logged into to perform my tests was my desktop system at work, a PII/333. All systems are running -STABLE CVSupped as of Mar 2 @ 0715 PST. I had performed my tests using sh, tcsh (FreeBSD's csh), and bash by changing my shell in the password file. I had also performed the same test using a an Xterm session running on the 486DX33 displayed to the 486DX33, an ssh session invoked from the 486DX/33 to the P120 using the bash shell. Still no failure. Consistent so far. I've run: - ls | more - man which pipes to more - nmh show command which pipes to more - cat | more Ssh localhost also works without flaw. Maybe I'm just lucky. I should have asked my wife to get lottery tickets when she went out. :) Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 22: 5:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C7B137B71A for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:05:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@chalmers.com.au) Received: from carbon (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f2661RU22428 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:01:35 +1000 (EST) From: "Robert" To: "stable" Subject: A quesstion about moving up from 2.2 to 4.2 via cvsup. Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:02:56 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I know - use the CD. but I'm experimenting. In moving from 2.2 to 4.2 stable, do I need to actually need to make buildworld make install world for each version, or simply do the cvsup steps 2.2 -> 3.2 -> 4.2 to make sure the actual source trees are all there, and then do the make and install bits. ? it's just that make buildworld on the first step ... 2.2 is failing for some reason known only to the great god Make. Bob To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 22: 8:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmls05.mediaone.net (chmls05.mediaone.net [24.147.1.143]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14D1437B719 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:08:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tpunder@mediaone.net) Received: from toddpc (medoonga@h0000e85749b9.ne.mediaone.net [66.31.205.167]) by chmls05.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2668gS22134 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 01:08:42 -0500 (EST) From: "Todd Punderson" To: Subject: Problem with 4.2-STABLE and dc0 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 01:09:21 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just cvsup'ed 11pm EST 3/5/01. After I heard that stable was locked thinking all would be well....Well, I now get this message repeated many times: dc0: failed to force tx and rx to idle state The card is a Netgear FA310TX. It was fine before I did this update. The last cvsup I ran was appx. 2 weeks ago (around 2/24.) Hopefully that will let you pin down where the program crept in. Thanks! Todd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 22:12:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6ED37B71A for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:12:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f266CDd26891; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:12:13 -0800 Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:12:13 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: Robert Cc: stable Subject: Re: A quesstion about moving up from 2.2 to 4.2 via cvsup. Message-ID: <20010305221213.A25907@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from robert@chalmers.com.au on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 04:02:56PM +1000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 04:02:56PM +1000, Robert wrote: > I know - use the CD. but I'm experimenting. >=20 > In moving from 2.2 to 4.2 stable, do I need to actually need to > make buildworld > make install world > for each version, or simply do the cvsup steps 2.2 -> 3.2 -> 4.2 to make > sure the actual source trees are all there, and then do the make and inst= all > bits. ? >=20 > it's just that make buildworld on the first step ... 2.2 is failing for s= ome > reason known only to the great god Make. You probably want to do something like: 2.2.x->2.2.8->3.2->3-STABLE->4.1->4-STABLE You must build and install a world and kernel at each step. I've got machines that have been upgraded that way (not all at once though ;-) so it's certaintly possiable. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pH+8XY6L6fI4GtQRAtp4AJwLrfssc1Mp1Rp/mRb8ARwKK1tcUACgoYha Wdgag51Zw9J/ZL1eeB4nAAc= =Gwcl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Qxx1br4bt0+wmkIi-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Mon Mar 5 22:17:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from poontang.schulte.org (poontang.schulte.org [209.134.156.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC4137B719 for ; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 22:17:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from christopher@schulte.org) Received: from TARMAP.schulte.org (tarmap.schulte.org [209.134.156.198]) by poontang.schulte.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA20491; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:17:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from christopher@schulte.org) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010306001037.00aecaf0@pop.schulte.org> X-Sender: schulte@pop.schulte.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 00:16:16 -0600 To: "Todd Punderson" , From: Christopher Schulte Subject: Re: Problem with 4.2-STABLE and dc0 In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Same problem here, installworld and install installkernel just after freeze. Card is a Linksys LNE 100-TX. dc0: failed to force tx and rx to idle state Last CVSUP was December-ish, so that's not going to help any. ;p The card still works; I can login just fine and no apparent (as of yet) problems with throughput or such. At 01:09 AM 3/6/2001 -0500, Todd Punderson wrote: >I just cvsup'ed 11pm EST 3/5/01. After I heard that stable was locked >thinking all would be well....Well, I now get this message repeated many >times: > >dc0: failed to force tx and rx to idle state > >The card is a Netgear FA310TX. It was fine before I did this update. The >last cvsup I ran was appx. 2 weeks ago (around 2/24.) Hopefully that will >let you pin down where the program crept in. >Thanks! >Todd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 0:15:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bali.trilogy.com (bali.trilogy.com [149.74.161.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A919537B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:15:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from harlan@bali.trilogy.com) Received: from bali.trilogy.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bali.trilogy.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43627172B7 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 02:15:29 -0600 (CST) To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: nlist failed for top in -STABLE User-Agent: EMH/1.10.0 REMI/1.14.2 (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Hokuhoku-=D2shima?=) Chao/1.14.1 (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rokujiz=F2?=) APEL/10.2 XEmacs/21.1 (patch 12) (Channel Islands) (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by REMI 1.14.2 - =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Hokuhoku-=D2?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?shima=22?=) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 02:15:29 -0600 Message-ID: <10854.983866529@bali.trilogy.com> From: Harlan Stenn Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been unable to get "top" working on a -STABLE box for the past week or so. I've been getting CVS updates frequently (watching the HEADS-UP messages). I've done: # make clean # make clean # make buildworld # make buildkernel # make installkernel # make installworld # mergemaster # reboot several times. # truss top top: nlist failed # There is only 1 copy of "top" on the machine. GENERIC kernel. What did I miss? H To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 0:23: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.ZSEA.zp.ua (ZSEA.zp.ua [212.8.40.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E6AB137B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:22:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from laa@laa.zp.ua) Received: (from laa@localhost) by mx1.ZSEA.zp.ua (8.x.x/8.x.x) with œ id f268MYX10871; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:22:34 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from laa@laa.zp.ua)œ Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:22:34 +0200 From: "Alexandr A. Listopad" To: Harlan Stenn Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nlist failed for top in -STABLE Message-ID: <20010306102234.A10830@laa.zp.ua> References: <10854.983866529@bali.trilogy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <10854.983866529@bali.trilogy.com>; from harlan@bali.trilogy.com on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 02:15:29AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 02:15:29AM -0600, Harlan Stenn wrote: > I've been unable to get "top" working on a -STABLE box for the past week > or so. same problem: 10:21:45 laa@eagle $ top top: nlist failed 10:21:47 laa@eagle $ uname -a FreeBSD Eagle.zgia.zp.ua 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #6: Mon Mar 5 21:05:38 EET 2001 root@Eagle.zgia.zp.ua:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/Eagle i386 10:22:01 laa@eagle $ -- Laa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 0:24:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nbrewer.com (sparge.nbrewer.com [208.42.68.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C443B37B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:24:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@nbrewer.com) Received: by mail.nbrewer.com (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 182EF383055; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 02:24:52 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 02:24:51 -0600 From: Christopher Farley To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: buildworld fails Message-ID: <20010306022450.B20720@northernbrewer.com> Mail-Followup-To: Christopher Farley , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Organization: Northern Brewer, St. Paul, MN Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I cvsupped sources this evening, and am having a buildworld problem. I recently had an adventure with fsck, so this may be a problem unique to me. Any pointers? It terminates is with this: ===> bin/stty cc -O -pipe -Wall -Wformat -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/bin/stty/cchar.c /usr/src/bin/stty/cchar.c:67: `VERASE2' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/bin/stty/cchar.c:67: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/bin/stty/cchar.c:67: (near initialization for `cchars1[6].sub') *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/bin/stty. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/bin. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. -- Christopher Farley www.northernbrewer.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 0:44: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailg.telia.com (mailg.telia.com [194.22.194.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ECEE837B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:44:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from watchman@ludd.luth.se) Received: from d1o906.telia.com (d1o906.telia.com [195.252.36.241]) by mailg.telia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA02386; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:43:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from ludd.luth.se (h12n1fls20o906.telia.com [213.64.92.12]) by d1o906.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id JAA14684; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:43:56 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3AA4A34A.6AD7510C@ludd.luth.se> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 09:43:54 +0100 From: Joachim =?iso-8859-1?Q?Str=F6mbergson?= Organization: Acne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Christopher Farley Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildworld fails References: <20010306022450.B20720@northernbrewer.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Aloha! Christopher Farley wrote: > I cvsupped sources this evening, and am having a buildworld problem. I > recently had an adventure with fsck, so this may be a problem unique to > me. Any pointers? No pointers, but I'm experiencing a similar problem at about the same place in the build. Se attached tail of buildlog at the bottom. (So fsck is probably not at fault.) I cvsupped 2001-03-06 08:10 CET from cvsup.fi.FreeBSD.ORG. > > It terminates is with this: > > ===> bin/stty > cc -O -pipe -Wall -Wformat -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > /usr/src/bin/stty/cchar.c > /usr/src/bin/stty/cchar.c:67: `VERASE2' undeclared here (not in a > function) > /usr/src/bin/stty/cchar.c:67: initializer element is not constant > /usr/src/bin/stty/cchar.c:67: (near initialization for `cchars1[6].sub') > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/bin/stty. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/bin. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > > -- > Christopher Farley > www.northernbrewer.com > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message ===> bin/stty cc -march=i686 -Wall -Wformat -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/bin/stty/cchar.c cc -march=i686 -Wall -Wformat -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/bin/stty/gfmt.c cc -march=i686 -Wall -Wformat -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/bin/stty/key.c cc -march=i686 -Wall -Wformat -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/bin/stty/modes.c cc -march=i686 -Wall -Wformat -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/bin/stty/print.c cc -march=i686 -Wall -Wformat -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/bin/stty/stty.c cc -march=i686 -Wall -Wformat -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/bin/stty/util.c gzip -cn /usr/src/bin/stty/stty.1 > stty.1.gz /usr/src/bin/stty/modes.c:194: `OCRNL' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/bin/stty/modes.c:194: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/bin/stty/modes.c:194: (near initialization for `omodes[6].set') /usr/src/bin/stty/modes.c:195: `OCRNL' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/bin/stty/modes.c:195: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/bin/stty/modes.c:195: (near initialization for `omodes[7].unset') /usr/src/bin/stty/modes.c:200: `ONOCR' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/bin/stty/modes.c:200: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/bin/stty/modes.c:200: (near initialization for `omodes[12].set') /usr/src/bin/stty/modes.c:201: `ONOCR' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/bin/stty/modes.c:201: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/bin/stty/modes.c:201: (near initialization for `omodes[13].unset') /usr/src/bin/stty/modes.c:202: `ONLRET' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/bin/stty/modes.c:202: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/bin/stty/modes.c:202: (near initialization for `omodes[14].set') /usr/src/bin/stty/modes.c:203: `ONLRET' undeclared here (not in a function) /usr/src/bin/stty/modes.c:203: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/bin/stty/modes.c:203: (near initialization for `omodes[15].unset') *** Error code 1 /usr/src/bin/stty/print.c: In function `print': /usr/src/bin/stty/print.c:151: `OCRNL' undeclared (first use in this function) /usr/src/bin/stty/print.c:151: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once /usr/src/bin/stty/print.c:151: for each function it appears in.) /usr/src/bin/stty/cchar.c:67: `VERASE2' undeclared here (not in a function) *** Error code 1 /usr/src/bin/stty/cchar.c:67: initializer element is not constant /usr/src/bin/stty/cchar.c:67: (near initialization for `cchars1[6].sub') *** Error code 1 3 errors *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error 3151.99 real 2347.72 user 1318.76 sys -- Cheers! Joachim - Alltid i harmonisk svängning --- FairLight ------ FairLight ------ FairLight ------ FairLight --- Joachim Strömbergson ASIC SoC designer, nice to CUTE animals Phone: +46(0)31 - 27 98 47 Web: http://www.ludd.luth.se/~watchman --------------- Spamfodder: regeringen@regeringen.se --------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 0:45:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6557437B71A for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:45:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from hornet.unixfreak.org (hornet [63.198.170.140]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 124F43E0C; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:45:07 -0800 (PST) To: "Alexandr A. Listopad" Cc: Harlan Stenn , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nlist failed for top in -STABLE In-Reply-To: <20010306102234.A10830@laa.zp.ua>; from laa@laa.zp.ua on "Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:22:34 +0200" Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 00:45:07 -0800 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010306084507.124F43E0C@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Alexandr A. Listopad" writes: > On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 02:15:29AM -0600, Harlan Stenn wrote: > > I've been unable to get "top" working on a -STABLE box for the past week > > or so. > same problem: http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/troubleshoot.html#NLIST-FAILED Have you read that? Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 0:53:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost01.reflexnet.net (mailhost01.reflexnet.net [64.6.192.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CE9937B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:53:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc@rfx-216-196-73-168.users.reflexcom.com) Received: from rfx-216-196-73-168.users.reflexcom.com ([216.196.73.168]) by mailhost01.reflexnet.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:51:44 -0800 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by rfx-216-196-73-168.users.reflexcom.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f268rcK17269; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:53:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:53:38 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Brooks Davis Cc: Robert , stable Subject: Re: A quesstion about moving up from 2.2 to 4.2 via cvsup. Message-ID: <20010306005338.E1367@cjc-desktop.users.reflexcom.com> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <20010305221213.A25907@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010305221213.A25907@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu>; from brooks@one-eyed-alien.net on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 10:12:13PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 10:12:13PM -0800, Brooks Davis wrote: > On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 04:02:56PM +1000, Robert wrote: > > I know - use the CD. but I'm experimenting. > > > > In moving from 2.2 to 4.2 stable, do I need to actually need to > > make buildworld > > make install world > > for each version, or simply do the cvsup steps 2.2 -> 3.2 -> 4.2 to make > > sure the actual source trees are all there, and then do the make and install > > bits. ? > > > > it's just that make buildworld on the first step ... 2.2 is failing for some > > reason known only to the great god Make. > > You probably want to do something like: > > 2.2.x->2.2.8->3.2->3-STABLE->4.1->4-STABLE > > You must build and install a world and kernel at each step. I've got > machines that have been upgraded that way (not all at once though ;-) > so it's certaintly possiable. Do yourself a favor. 1) Backup machine. Make an /etc.old. 2) Make 4.x-RELEASE floppies. 3) Do a binary upgrade. 4) Merge /etc.old with new /etc. 5) Go 4.x-RELEASE to 4.x-STABLE. Frankly, I think building a whole 3.X system to clobber it the minute you are done is really a waste of time. The move from 2.2.x to 3.x, the move from a.out to ELF world, was deep hurting if you made a wrong step. I'd not bother. ...Unless you want to do it for just the sake of doing it. In that case, have fun. -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 0:54: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 347EB37B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:54:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f268rxu67272 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:53:59 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stijn) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:53:59 +0100 From: Stijn Hoop To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf owned by root? Message-ID: <20010306095359.B25494@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I'm using cvsup to checkout a source tree that is not owned by root. Is it just me, or does somebody else also notice that every time after a cvsup wherein sendmail has been upgraded, /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf is suddenly owned by root? This causes the next cvsup to fail... It happened last time (the update to 8.11.2) and happened today also (with the update to 8.11.3): ===> Source cvsup started on 2001/03/06 09:41:21 Parsing supfile "/usr/local/etc/sup/src-all-supfile" Connecting to cvsup2.nl.FreeBSD.org Connected to cvsup2.nl.FreeBSD.org Server software version: REL_16_1 Negotiating file attribute support Exchanging collection information Establishing multiplexed-mode data connection Running Updating collection src-all/cvs [...snip...] Edit src/bin/stty/stty.1 Add delta 1.13.2.4 2001.03.06.03.36.19 jkh Updater failed: /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf/#cvs.cvsup-40013.6: Cannot create: Permission denied ===> Source cvsup ended on 2001/03/06 09:42:22 The problem goes away when I change ownership of /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf back to my regular user (presumably because there are no more updates in that directory). --Stijn -- Nostalgia ain't what it used to be. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 1: 0: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailhost01.reflexnet.net (mailhost01.reflexnet.net [64.6.192.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D7B6537B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 01:00:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc@rfx-216-196-73-168.users.reflexcom.com) Received: from rfx-216-196-73-168.users.reflexcom.com ([216.196.73.168]) by mailhost01.reflexnet.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:58:00 -0800 Received: (from cjc@localhost) by rfx-216-196-73-168.users.reflexcom.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f268xw617383; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:59:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cjc) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:59:57 -0800 From: "Crist J. Clark" To: Harlan Stenn Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nlist failed for top in -STABLE Message-ID: <20010306005957.F1367@cjc-desktop.users.reflexcom.com> Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu References: <10854.983866529@bali.trilogy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <10854.983866529@bali.trilogy.com>; from harlan@bali.trilogy.com on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 02:15:29AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 02:15:29AM -0600, Harlan Stenn wrote: > I've been unable to get "top" working on a -STABLE box for the past week > or so. > > I've been getting CVS updates frequently (watching the HEADS-UP > messages). > > I've done: > > # make clean > # make clean > # make buildworld > # make buildkernel > # make installkernel > # make installworld > # mergemaster > # reboot > > several times. > > # truss top > top: nlist failed > # > > There is only 1 copy of "top" on the machine. GENERIC kernel. > > What did I miss? Just to be sure, $ which top $ sysctl kern.bootfile $ ls -l /usr/bin/top /kernel -- Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 1: 1:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E6B037B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 01:01:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 36CD666ED3; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 01:01:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 01:01:38 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Carson Gaspar Cc: Kris Kennaway , FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: wchan kqread Message-ID: <20010306010138.B92634@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <20010303163114.B51808@mollari.cthul.hu> <44748046.983799673@[10.10.1.2]> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="24zk1gE8NUlDmwG9" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <44748046.983799673@[10.10.1.2]>; from carson@taltos.org on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 01:41:13PM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --24zk1gE8NUlDmwG9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 01:41:13PM -0800, Carson Gaspar wrote: > > This has never been the case; the main culprits are things like top > > and ps which rely (relied - it's fixed in -current) on struct proc > > which changes size fairly regularly, but there are others. We're > > trying to move away from that by more sensible exporting of data > > structures, but this is the way it's always been. >=20 > So why the !@#$%$%^ is this stuff changing in -STABLE? One would _hope_= =20 > that -STABLE was for bug-fixes, not for gratuitous feature changes. If I= =20 > wanted my APIs to change daily, I'd run -CURRENT. You're in error of what -STABLE is. Refresh your memory by consulting the relevant handbook chapter. Kris --24zk1gE8NUlDmwG9 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pKdxWry0BWjoQKURAqIuAKCTPk7o1BF2UUpN1zzOk4avhHKbZACgwC0i 9w/Ni6AkuZB0RfnqRfXIZBw= =Hbuu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --24zk1gE8NUlDmwG9-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 1: 3:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E61537B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 01:03:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A478B66ED3; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 01:03:31 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 01:03:31 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Christopher Farley Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildworld fails Message-ID: <20010306010331.C92634@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <20010306022450.B20720@northernbrewer.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uXxzq0nDebZQVNAZ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010306022450.B20720@northernbrewer.com>; from chris@northernbrewer.com on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 02:24:51AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --uXxzq0nDebZQVNAZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 02:24:51AM -0600, Christopher Farley wrote: > I cvsupped sources this evening, and am having a buildworld problem. I > recently had an adventure with fsck, so this may be a problem unique to > me. Any pointers? Our illustrious release engineer broke the build by doing a partial merge of some changes :-). It should be fixed by now. Kris --uXxzq0nDebZQVNAZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pKfiWry0BWjoQKURAoi5AKCqRa0GW2teg9pcQUA7d3gC9YROlwCfVtsj Z/itr1damSp7RFG4XAV7RP4= =mLd+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uXxzq0nDebZQVNAZ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 1:34:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (whale.sunbay.crimea.ua [212.110.138.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15ACC37B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 01:34:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ru@whale.sunbay.crimea.ua) Received: (from ru@localhost) by whale.sunbay.crimea.ua (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f25JI7U06916; Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:18:07 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from ru) Date: Mon, 5 Mar 2001 21:18:07 +0200 From: Ruslan Ermilov To: Virtual Bob Cc: FreeBSD-STABLE list Subject: Re: installworld failes at "bin/cat" Message-ID: <20010305211807.A6841@sunbay.com> Mail-Followup-To: Virtual Bob , FreeBSD-STABLE list References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from hey9811@yahoo.com on Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 01:13:22PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mon, Mar 05, 2001 at 01:13:22PM -0600, Virtual Bob wrote: > I'm wrestling with this for last two days or so... Help! This is 3.5-R, > latest cvsup just this Mon morning. > > ... > ===> bin > ===> bin/cat > install -c -s -o root -g wheel -m 555 cat /bin > /usr/obj/usr/src/tmp/usr/libexec/elf/strip: /bin/stjr6327: Operation not > permitted > *** Error code 70 > > Stop. > ... > Check the ``ls -old /bin'' output. I guess /bin has ``schg'' turned on. Cheers, -- Ruslan Ermilov Oracle Developer/DBA, ru@sunbay.com Sunbay Software AG, ru@FreeBSD.org FreeBSD committer, +380.652.512.251 Simferopol, Ukraine http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power To Serve http://www.oracle.com Enabling The Information Age To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 2:47:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bsdi.dhs.org (bsdi.dhs.org [202.61.71.137]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3558F37B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 02:47:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from webby@bsdi.dhs.org) Received: from localhost (bsdi.dhs.org [202.61.71.137]) by bsdi.dhs.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 72F2B11195 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:50:30 +0800 (PHT) Subject: Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: webby@bsdi.dhs.org Cc: Content-type: text/plain Mime-version: 1.0 X-Sender-ip: bc0bb4e1 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:50 PHT X-mailer: BSDi Webmail(TM) Message-Id: <20010306105030.72F2B11195@bsdi.dhs.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG uname -a FreeBSD weiss.norlight.net 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #0: Mon Feb 19 18:35:06 CST 2001 root@test.norlight.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/weiss i386 being stable? to produce this kind of output i can just edit /usr/src/sys/conf/newvers* edit RELEASE to STABLE and walaaa!! it;s now stable hmmm what do you think...? _________________________________________________________ Powered by BSDi WebM@iL - http://bsdi.dhs.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 2:57:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from c007.snv.cp.net (c007-h011.c007.snv.cp.net [209.228.33.217]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C76937B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 02:57:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from otterr@telocity.com) Received: (cpmta 15633 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2001 02:57:07 -0800 Received: from dsl-216-227-91-85.telocity.com (HELO zoso) (216.227.91.85) by smtp.telocity.com (209.228.33.217) with SMTP; 6 Mar 2001 02:57:07 -0800 X-Sent: 6 Mar 2001 10:57:07 GMT From: "Otter" To: "'Christopher Schulte'" , "'Todd Punderson'" , Subject: RE: Problem with 4.2-STABLE and dc0 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 05:46:21 -0500 Message-ID: <001001c0a62a$af5ae1e0$1401a8c0@zoso> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010306001037.00aecaf0@pop.schulte.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG no problems here... and my dc0 is also a NetGear FA310TX. see below from last night's update: > uname -a FreeBSD kashmir.myip.org 4.3-BETA FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #3: Mon Mar 5 23:29:10 EST 2001 otterr@kashmir.myip.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/kashmir i386 > ifconfig dc0 dc0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.1.10 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ether 00:a0:cc:65:da:4e media: autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP none working just fine... dc0 is the internal NIC on my NAT box. -Otter > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Christopher > Schulte > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 1:16 AM > To: Todd Punderson; stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Problem with 4.2-STABLE and dc0 > > > Same problem here, installworld and install installkernel just after > freeze. Card is a Linksys LNE 100-TX. > > dc0: failed to force tx and rx to idle state > > Last CVSUP was December-ish, so that's not going to help any. ;p > > The card still works; I can login just fine and no apparent > (as of yet) > problems with throughput or such. > > At 01:09 AM 3/6/2001 -0500, Todd Punderson wrote: > >I just cvsup'ed 11pm EST 3/5/01. After I heard that stable was locked > >thinking all would be well....Well, I now get this message > repeated many > >times: > > > >dc0: failed to force tx and rx to idle state > > > >The card is a Netgear FA310TX. It was fine before I did this > update. The > >last cvsup I ran was appx. 2 weeks ago (around 2/24.) > Hopefully that will > >let you pin down where the program crept in. > >Thanks! > >Todd > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 3: 1:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hypernet.hyper.net (hypernet.hyper.gr [193.218.1.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED22D37B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 03:01:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dxoch@escape.gr) Received: from escape.gr (bus.hyper.gr [193.218.2.30]) by hypernet.hyper.net (8.9.3/8.9.3/Hypernet-0.1) with ESMTP id NAA24674 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:16:47 +0200 Message-ID: <3AA4C35A.E20BA517@escape.gr> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 13:00:42 +0200 From: dxoch Organization: ESCAPE Services X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: fr,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Backup + Dump + floppies = problem! Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-7; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi there, After reading the Handbook and other resources i came to the conclusion that dump is maybe the most reliable solution for making backups on a FreeBSD Box.I also understood that is much better to perform the backup procedure on unmounted filesystems. But... I dont want to use a spare hard disk to boot from, because it is not practical, and i have boxes that can not boot from a CDROM. So, in order to perform a backup with dump, i must use floppies... I used the kern and mfsroot floppies in order to boot and run the sysinstall program. Then I chooosed fixit from the menu and i inserted the fixit floppy. Then I came into the following situation: 1) Fixit floppy does not contain the dump program. 2) Fixit floppy is more than full, df gives: /dev/fd0 1363 1305 -51 104% /mnt 3) After removing view and ex, df again gives: /dev/fd0 1363 1305 -51 104% /mnt and dump cannot be added. 4) All files (exept dirs) in the fixit floppy have the same size of 1215072 bytes. The original sizes are: dump: 331452, view: 279876, ex: 279876 5) Fixit floppy cannot be unmounted (So that I can use an other floppy) 6) The kern floppy is also super-full, but files in it have arbitrary sizes. df gives: /dev/fd0 1407 1353 -58 105% /mnt My questions are: - Is it OK for a floppy to be more than 100% full? - Can I add or remove files on the fixit floppy and how? - Can I unmount the fixit floppy somehow, when i am in the fixit shell? - Is there an easier/better way to do some/all of the above? - Does anybody know a way to exclude a directory when using dump to backup a filesystem. I didnt found anything helpfull in the man pages. If some of the above questions are cuvered somewere, please give me a pointer. Thanks for your help. Jim Xochellis. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 3:29:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 47E1137B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 03:29:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 27957 invoked by uid 100); 6 Mar 2001 11:29:30 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15012.51738.570582.604164@guru.mired.org> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 05:29:30 -0600 To: dxoch Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Backup + Dump + floppies = problem! In-Reply-To: <3AA4C35A.E20BA517@escape.gr> References: <3AA4C35A.E20BA517@escape.gr> X-Mailer: VM 6.89 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG dxoch types: > Hi there, > After reading the Handbook and other resources i came to the > conclusion that dump is maybe the most reliable solution for > making backups on a FreeBSD Box.I also understood that is > much better to perform the backup procedure on unmounted > filesystems. But... Actually, there's no difference between performing the backup procedure on an unmounted file system vs. one that's inactive - so long as it's really inactive. The best way to insure that it's inactive is to have it be unmounted, or mounted read-only. Having the system in single-user mode is a very close second. > I dont want to use a spare hard disk to boot from, because it > is not practical, and i have boxes that can not boot from > a CDROM. So, in order to perform a backup with dump, i must > use floppies... Is there some reason you can't boot single user and back up the root file system before remounting it read/write? > I used the kern and mfsroot floppies in order to boot and run > the sysinstall program. Then I chooosed fixit from the menu > and i inserted the fixit floppy. Then I came into the following > situation: > > 1) Fixit floppy does not contain the dump program. > 2) Fixit floppy is more than full, df gives: > /dev/fd0 1363 1305 -51 104% /mnt > 3) After removing view and ex, df again gives: > /dev/fd0 1363 1305 -51 104% /mnt > and dump cannot be added. > 4) All files (exept dirs) in the fixit floppy have the same > size of 1215072 bytes. The original sizes are: > dump: 331452, view: 279876, ex: 279876 > 5) Fixit floppy cannot be unmounted (So that I can use an > other floppy) > 6) The kern floppy is also super-full, but files in it have > arbitrary sizes. df gives: > /dev/fd0 1407 1353 -58 105% /mnt > > My questions are: > - Is it OK for a floppy to be more than 100% full? Yes. See the FAQ. > - Can I add or remove files on the fixit floppy and how? Yes. You removed view and ex. Since those are hard links to vi, all you did was free a couple of inodes without releasing any blocks on the disk. > - Can I unmount the fixit floppy somehow, when i am in > the fixit shell? Try "umount -f". Expect things to fail afterwards. > - Is there an easier/better way to do some/all of the above? Yes. Just shut the system down to single user mode, unmount your file system, then dump them. If you're even more paranoid than I am, reboot to single user and dump root before remounting it read/write. Oh yeah - dump root last. > - Does anybody know a way to exclude a directory when using > dump to backup a filesystem. I didnt found anything helpfull > in the man pages. The only way I know to do it is to put the directory on another file system. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 4: 0:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from xkis.kis.ru (xkis.kis.ru [195.98.32.200]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7F9237B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 04:00:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dv@dv.ru) Received: from localhost (dv@localhost) by xkis.kis.ru (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA29888; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:59:26 +0300 (MSK) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:59:26 +0300 (MSK) From: Dmitry Valdov X-Sender: dv@xkis.kis.ru To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu Cc: Harlan Stenn , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nlist failed for top in -STABLE In-Reply-To: <20010306005957.F1367@cjc-desktop.users.reflexcom.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi! disklabel -B /dev/.... ? Dmitry. On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Crist J. Clark wrote: > Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 00:59:57 -0800 > From: "Crist J. Clark" > Reply-To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu > To: Harlan Stenn > Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: nlist failed for top in -STABLE > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 02:15:29AM -0600, Harlan Stenn wrote: > > I've been unable to get "top" working on a -STABLE box for the past week > > or so. > > > > I've been getting CVS updates frequently (watching the HEADS-UP > > messages). > > > > I've done: > > > > # make clean > > # make clean > > # make buildworld > > # make buildkernel > > # make installkernel > > # make installworld > > # mergemaster > > # reboot > > > > several times. > > > > # truss top > > top: nlist failed > > # > > > > There is only 1 copy of "top" on the machine. GENERIC kernel. > > > > What did I miss? > > Just to be sure, > > $ which top > $ sysctl kern.bootfile > $ ls -l /usr/bin/top /kernel > > -- > Crist J. Clark cjclark@alum.mit.edu > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 4:27:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D918837B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 04:27:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp (fcage [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f26CQqg40990; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 07:27:17 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20010306072419.04144008@marble.sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@marble.sentex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 07:26:51 -0500 To: Harlan Stenn , stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: nlist failed for top in -STABLE In-Reply-To: <10854.983866529@bali.trilogy.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG How are you booting your system ? Are you using /boot/loader ? ---Mike At 02:15 AM 3/6/2001 -0600, Harlan Stenn wrote: >I've been unable to get "top" working on a -STABLE box for the past week >or so. > >I've been getting CVS updates frequently (watching the HEADS-UP >messages). > >I've done: > > # make clean > # make clean > # make buildworld > # make buildkernel > # make installkernel > # make installworld > # mergemaster > # reboot > >several times. > > # truss top > top: nlist failed > # > >There is only 1 copy of "top" on the machine. GENERIC kernel. > >What did I miss? > >H > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 5:17: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (mail.golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA33437B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 05:17:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id timaaaaa for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:16:16 +1100 Message-ID: <3AA4E3CA.DF8A0A68@quake.com.au> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 00:19:06 +1100 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Argh! Many sig 11's Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hiyas, One of my machines running 4.0 Stable had its power supply go, I since replaced it and now when coping large amounts of data etc things start dieing with sig 11's... Eg. cp -ipRP /usr /newusr (/usr and /newusr are in separate drives) after about 10mins of copying syslogd exited on 11, then ntpd then getty, then vm caused a panic and the system died... I thing one of the hdds is on the way out.. But could this cause the sig 11's? I dont see what other hardware could of been damaged by the power supply dieing... TIA Kal. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 5:26:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from abc.123.org (123.org [195.244.241.123]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29FEE37B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 05:26:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from k@abc.123.org) Received: (from k@localhost) by abc.123.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f26DPqV07058; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:25:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from k) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:25:52 +0100 From: Kai Voigt To: Kal Torak Cc: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: Argh! Many sig 11's Message-ID: <20010306142551.I1448@abc.123.org> References: <3AA4E3CA.DF8A0A68@quake.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AA4E3CA.DF8A0A68@quake.com.au>; from kaltorak@quake.com.au on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 12:19:06AM +1100 Organization: 123.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kal Torak wrote: > > One of my machines running 4.0 Stable had its power supply go, > I since replaced it and now when coping large amounts of data etc > things start dieing with sig 11's... > > Eg. cp -ipRP /usr /newusr (/usr and /newusr are in separate drives) > after about 10mins of copying syslogd exited on 11, then ntpd then > getty, then vm caused a panic and the system died... > > I thing one of the hdds is on the way out.. But could this cause the > sig 11's? I dont see what other hardware could of been damaged by the > power supply dieing... Signal 11 usually means hardware problems. Most likely, RAM is broken, which is not suprising after a power supply damage. Read http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ for further details. Kai -- kai voigt dreiecksplatz 8 24105 kiel 0431-22199869 http://k.123.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 5:34:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mls.gtonet.net (mls.gtonet.net [216.112.90.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7589637B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 05:34:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oldfart@gtonet.net) Received: from pld (pld.gtonet.net [216.112.90.200]) by mls.gtonet.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f26DYdb13148 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 05:34:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oldfart@gtonet.net) Reply-To: From: "oldfart@gtonet" To: "FreeBSD-stable" Subject: RE: Argh! Many sig 11's Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 05:34:38 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20010306142551.I1448@abc.123.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The CPU could have been zapped as well but RAM would be more likely to die first with a power supply failure. I think it depends on the motherboard somewhat too. Can you swap it with "known good"(TM) memory? Good luck, man. OF > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Kai Voigt > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 5:26 AM > To: Kal Torak > Cc: FreeBSD-stable > Subject: Re: Argh! Many sig 11's > > > Kal Torak wrote: > > > > One of my machines running 4.0 Stable had its power supply go, > > I since replaced it and now when coping large amounts of data etc > > things start dieing with sig 11's... > > > > Eg. cp -ipRP /usr /newusr (/usr and /newusr are in separate drives) > > after about 10mins of copying syslogd exited on 11, then ntpd then > > getty, then vm caused a panic and the system died... > > > > I thing one of the hdds is on the way out.. But could this cause the > > sig 11's? I dont see what other hardware could of been damaged by the > > power supply dieing... > > Signal 11 usually means hardware problems. Most likely, RAM is > broken, which is not suprising after a power supply damage. > > Read http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ for further details. > > Kai > > -- > kai voigt dreiecksplatz 8 24105 kiel 0431-22199869 > http://k.123.org/ > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 6: 6: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blizzard.sabbo.net (pop3.sabbo.net [193.193.218.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF2C37B719; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 06:05:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from vic.sabbo.net (root@vic.sabbo.net [193.193.218.112]) by blizzard.sabbo.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f26DQQp20517; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:26:39 +0200 Received: from FreeBSD.org (big_brother.vega.com [192.168.1.1]) by vic.sabbo.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f26DQZI33765; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:26:35 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <3AA4E580.8A59728C@FreeBSD.org> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 15:26:24 +0200 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Vega International Capital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: uk,ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: markm@FreeBSD.org Cc: des@FreeBSD.org, current@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Can't build 5-current world on 4-stable box (perl doesn't bootstrap properly) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I reported it about a month ago, but the problem still persists. 5-current buildworld can't be performed on reasonably recent 4-stable system, hence source upgrade path from -stable to -current is broken. Please fix. cc -pipe -O -I/usr/current/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl -I/usr/current/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5 -DPERL_CORE -I/shares/UF/obj/usr/current/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/current/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/../../../../contrib/perl5/perly.c -o perly.o building static perl library ranlib libperl.a sh /usr/current/src/tools/install.sh -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 libperl.a /shares/UF/obj/usr/current/src/i386/usr/libcd /usr/current/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl; make obj; make depend; make all; make install /shares/UF/obj/usr/current/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl created for /usr/current/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/miniperl make: don't know how to make opnames.h. Stop *** Error code 2 1 error $ uname -a FreeBSD vic.sabbo.net 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #37: Wed Feb 21 11:59:36 EET 2001 root@vic.sabbo.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/VEGA i386 (system built from the sources cvsuped on 21 Feb 2001). -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 6:31:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blake.arcadia.spb.ru (ns.arcadia.spb.ru [212.119.177.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79D6237B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 06:31:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lev@arcadia.spb.ru) Received: from anti.arcadia.spb.ru (anti.arcadia.spb.ru [212.119.177.3] (may be forged)) by blake.arcadia.spb.ru (8.9.2/8.8.6) with SMTP id RAA32132 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:52:57 +0300 (MSK) Received: from LEV ([172.16.16.85]:3006) (HELO dhcp85.arcadia.intranet) by anti.arcadia.spb.ru ([212.119.177.3]:25) (F-Secure Anti-Virus for Internet Mail 5.0.53 Release) with SMTP; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:22:36 -0000 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:32:02 +0300 From: Lev Serebryakov X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.46d) Personal Reply-To: Lev Serebryakov Organization: Arcadia, Inc. X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <441214423328.20010306173202@arcadia.spb.ru> To: All Subject: ``broken pipe'' in 4.2-STABLE: pkg_add AND man! Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello All, I running FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE from 28 of Feb. And when I'm connected over ssh, I have got `broken pipe' error not only from pkg_add, but also from man, when I press `q': zcat: stdout: Broken pipe -- Best regards, Lev mailto:Lev.Serebryakov@arcadia.spb.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 6:45:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84A0D37B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 06:45:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f26EjXa24501; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:45:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010306093835.0378aaf0@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 09:39:37 -0500 To: Lev Serebryakov , All From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: ``broken pipe'' in 4.2-STABLE: pkg_add AND man! In-Reply-To: <441214423328.20010306173202@arcadia.spb.ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG See the recent threads on this list Re: more strange problem with broken pipes and ssh ---Mike At 05:32 PM 3/6/01 +0300, Lev Serebryakov wrote: >Hello All, > > I running FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE from 28 of Feb. > And when I'm connected over ssh, I have got `broken pipe' error not > only from pkg_add, but also from man, when I press `q': > > zcat: stdout: Broken pipe > >-- >Best regards, > Lev mailto:Lev.Serebryakov@arcadia.spb.ru > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 7:13:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de (jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de [132.176.7.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5E037B71A; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 07:13:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de) Received: from fernuni-hagen.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f26FE0900485; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:14:01 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de) Message-ID: <3AA4FEB8.9732581C@fernuni-hagen.de> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:14:00 +0100 From: Fritz Heinrichmeyer Organization: FernUni in Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: de, en, de-DE MIME-Version: 1.0 To: imp@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: where is the place to start dhclient?, entry in pccard.conf References: <20010306105030.72F2B11195@bsdi.dhs.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello this mail has two topics, I have pccard_enable="YES" hostname=xxx ifconfig_ed0="DHCP" in my laptop in /etc/rc.conf but i have to start dhclient by hand. What is to do? 2. topic: for my pcmcia d-link dfe-650 card it was necessary to include the soundblaster io adresses in the /etc/pccard.conf. Under windows the card uses 0x220! -- Fritz Heinrichmeyer mailto:fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de FernUniversitaet Hagen, LG ES, 58084 Hagen (Germany) tel:+49 2331/987-1166 fax:987-355 http://www-es.fernuni-hagen.de/~jfh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 7:18:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from g04.syd.iprimus.net.au (g04.syd.iprimus.net.au [203.134.65.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8E83137B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 07:18:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from niklas@saers.com) Received: (qmail 29916 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2001 15:19:30 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO fluffy) (203.134.42.141) by g04.syd.iprimus.net.au with SMTP; 6 Mar 2001 15:19:30 -0000 From: "Niklas Saers" To: Subject: PPP problems Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:17:56 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi. I have a hard time using PPP at the moment. It used to work very well, but the last couple of days I've been getting a hard time ping'ing anyone, getting about 4% ping to the servers on the net I'm calling. Please find my ppp.log file at http://niklas.saers.com/ppp/ppp.log and my config-file at http://niklas.saers.com/ppp/ppp.conf and tell me what I can do about this. It seems it's having problems authenticating itself, and the log-file simply explodes in size! I tried pinging for a couple of hours and filled up my /var with the logfile! (the logfile referred to is quite moderate but contains an entire session) My system is STABLE as of yesterday, usually rebuilt about once a week. Sincerely yours Niklas Saers -- You cannot kill time without injuring eternity. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 8:12:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bumper.jellybaby.net (bumper.jellybaby.net [194.159.247.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4220137B71A for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:12:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simond@bumper.jellybaby.net) Received: (from simond@localhost) by bumper.jellybaby.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) id QAA91374 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:12:15 GMT (envelope-from simond) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:12:15 +0000 From: simond@irrelevant.org To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Problem with top in todays stable Message-ID: <20010306161215.A91244@irrelevant.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Despite having my kernel and world in sync (and trying rebuilting top seperately), I always get "top: nlist failed" error message, this is from a cvsup from a couple of hours ago, I haven't tried cvsuping again yet mainly as I have to work on this machine too. Anyone know if this has been fixed? -- Simon Dick simond@irrelevant.org "Why do I get this urge to go bowling everytime I see Tux?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 8:19: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC3CD37B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:18:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f26GIwW21627; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:18:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com( 207.76.205.64) by whistle.com via smap (V2.0) id xma021622; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:18:39 -0800 Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f26GIdT38195; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:18:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:18:39 -0800 (PST) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200103061618.f26GIdT38195@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, simond@irrelevant.org Subject: Re: Problem with top in todays stable In-Reply-To: <20010306161215.A91244@irrelevant.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:12:15 +0000 >From: simond@irrelevant.org >Despite having my kernel and world in sync (and trying rebuilting top >seperately), I always get "top: nlist failed" error message, this is from >a cvsup from a couple of hours ago, I haven't tried cvsuping again yet >mainly as I have to work on this machine too. >Anyone know if this has been fixed? I am not seeing this problem on a system I just upgraded (to 4.3-BETA, now); the CVSup ended at 05:51 PST (13:51 GMT/UTC). (The system in question started as a 4.1-R box.) Cheers, david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com UNIX System Administrator Desk: 650/577-7158 TIE: 8/499-7158 Cell: 650/759-0823 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 8:26:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bumper.jellybaby.net (bumper.jellybaby.net [194.159.247.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7495837B71A for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:26:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simond@bumper.jellybaby.net) Received: (from simond@localhost) by bumper.jellybaby.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) id QAA92092; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:26:32 GMT (envelope-from simond) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:26:32 +0000 From: simond@irrelevant.org To: David Wolfskill Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, simond@irrelevant.org Subject: Re: Problem with top in todays stable Message-ID: <20010306162632.B91244@irrelevant.org> References: <20010306161215.A91244@irrelevant.org> <200103061618.f26GIdT38195@pau-amma.whistle.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200103061618.f26GIdT38195@pau-amma.whistle.com>; from dhw@whistle.com on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 08:18:39AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 08:18:39AM -0800, David Wolfskill wrote: > >Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:12:15 +0000 > >From: simond@irrelevant.org > > >Despite having my kernel and world in sync (and trying rebuilting top > >seperately), I always get "top: nlist failed" error message, this is from > >a cvsup from a couple of hours ago, I haven't tried cvsuping again yet > >mainly as I have to work on this machine too. > > >Anyone know if this has been fixed? > > I am not seeing this problem on a system I just upgraded (to 4.3-BETA, > now); the CVSup ended at 05:51 PST (13:51 GMT/UTC). (The system in > question started as a 4.1-R box.) OK, looks like I'll have to cvsup again just in case, oh well, not a major problem, just slightly annoying :) -- Simon Dick simond@irrelevant.org "Why do I get this urge to go bowling everytime I see Tux?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 8:27:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp1.sentex.ca (smtp1.sentex.ca [199.212.134.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB0E737B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:27:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from simoeon.sentex.net (simeon.sentex.ca [209.112.4.47]) by smtp1.sentex.ca (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f26GQpr43860; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:26:51 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010306111946.024357d0@marble.sentex.ca> X-Sender: mdtpop@marble.sentex.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 11:20:55 -0500 To: simond@irrelevant.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: Problem with top in todays stable In-Reply-To: <20010306161215.A91244@irrelevant.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Are you sure you are using /boot/loader to boot your system ? ---Mike At 04:12 PM 3/6/01 +0000, simond@irrelevant.org wrote: >Despite having my kernel and world in sync (and trying rebuilting top >seperately), I always get "top: nlist failed" error message, this is from >a cvsup from a couple of hours ago, I haven't tried cvsuping again yet >mainly as I have to work on this machine too. > >Anyone know if this has been fixed? > >-- >Simon Dick simond@irrelevant.org >"Why do I get this urge to go bowling everytime I see Tux?" > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 8:33: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from VL-MS-MR003.sc1.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED8D837B71A for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:32:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from patrick@netzuno.com) Received: from jacuzzi ([24.200.106.26]) by VL-MS-MR003.sc1.videotron.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id G9SBAT04.ZXS for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:32:53 -0500 Received: from cognac (cognac.local.mindstep.com [192.168.10.4]) by jacuzzi (Postfix) with SMTP id 3040A3DA5 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:07:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Patrick Bihan-Faou" To: Subject: Re: Problem with bootable CD... Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:34:17 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, Well I got no answer from this list whatsoever, but I managed to finally solve the problem. The issue was that the decompression of the kernel was not happening correctly at load time. For some reason (that I am not going to explore), while decompressing the text segment of the kernel, the loader would read more data that was really necessary. This would cause the current position in the compressed stream to be a bit further than the start of the data segment. When the loader then tries to decompress the data segment, it performs a lseek to the start of it (which in normal situation should be a noop since the stream is already in that position). Because it is not possible to seek backward in a compressed stream, the lseek call fails and the load terminates with errno=94 (== EOFFSET in libstand). The way I solved this was by using the default compression factor to create the compressed kernel (i.e. gzip kernel, rather than gzip -9 kernel). The difference in size is negligeable (< 5k for a 1.7Mg compressed file) and the "less" compressed kernel loads fine. This may be an issue for other people who build bootable CDs. I took example on what is done in /usr/src/release. This is where I copied the code that does a "gzip -9". It might be a good idea to drop the -9 option as it does not save anything and can create problems. I am keeping the problematic kernel in case anyone is interested. Patrick. ""Patrick Bihan-Faou"" wrote in message news:... > Hi, > > > I am building a custom bootable CD for my own needs based on FreeBSD > 4.x-STABLE. I am using stock FreeBSD code, and everything was working fine > until yesterday when I update the code. > > The problem I am seeing is that during the boot of the CD I get a > "elf_loadexec: cannot seek" error and the kernel does not load. > > I have added a trace in sys/boot/common/load_elf.c to see the values of > local variables at the time this message is printed and here is the output > (with my trace): > > > Hit [Enter] to boot immediately, or any other key for command prompt. > Booting [kernel]... > /kernel text=0x1391c9 data=0x2eb4f4+0x165c0 > elf_loadexec: cannot seek > fd=0, i=3, p_filesz=3060980, p_offset=1282528, fcopy=0, errno=94 > can't load 'kernel' > can't load 'kernel.old' > > Type '?' for a list of commands, 'help' for more detailed help. > ok > > > Now the strange thing is that errno has a value that is not defined anywhere > and does not correspond to the "official" error codes that lseek is supposed > to return. For this reason I am assuming that lseek() is failing in the > VOP_GETATTR call (cf. code snipet). > > Would anybody have any idea as to what could be causing this ? > > This code was checked out with the following tag/date: -r RELENG_4 -D > "2001/02/27 23:00 EST" > > > My last successfull build was with the following tag/date: -r RELENG_4 -D > "2001/02/15 12:00 EST" > > > The system I am using to do the builds is RELENG_4 as of mid january. > > > Thanks in advance for any suggestions. > > > Patrick. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Patch added in sys/boot/common/load_elf.c (rev 1.13.2.1): > > Index: load_elf.c > =================================================================== > RCS file: /cvs/freebsd/src/sys/boot/common/load_elf.c,v > retrieving revision 1.13.2.1 > diff -u -r1.13.2.1 load_elf.c > --- load_elf.c 2000/12/28 13:12:35 1.13.2.1 > +++ load_elf.c 2001/02/28 06:08:16 > @@ -268,6 +268,7 @@ > if (phdr[i].p_filesz > fpcopy) { > if (lseek(fd, phdr[i].p_offset + fpcopy, SEEK_SET) == -1) { > printf("\nelf_loadexec: cannot seek\n"); > + printf("fd=%d, i=%d, p_filesz=%lu p_offset=%lu, fpcopy=%lu, > errno=%d\n", fd, i, phdr[i].p_filesz, phdr[i].p_offset, fpcopy, errno); > goto out; > } > if (archsw.arch_readin(fd, phdr[i].p_vaddr + off + fpcopy, > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > lseek code from sys/kern/vfs_syscalls.c (rev 1.151.2.6): > > lseek(p, uap) > struct proc *p; > register struct lseek_args /* { > syscallarg(int) fd; > syscallarg(int) pad; > syscallarg(off_t) offset; > syscallarg(int) whence; > } */ *uap; > { > struct ucred *cred = p->p_ucred; > register struct filedesc *fdp = p->p_fd; > register struct file *fp; > struct vattr vattr; > int error; > > if ((u_int)SCARG(uap, fd) >= fdp->fd_nfiles || > (fp = fdp->fd_ofiles[SCARG(uap, fd)]) == NULL) > return (EBADF); > if (fp->f_type != DTYPE_VNODE) > return (ESPIPE); > switch (SCARG(uap, whence)) { > case L_INCR: > fp->f_offset += SCARG(uap, offset); > break; > case L_XTND: > error=VOP_GETATTR((struct vnode *)fp->f_data, &vattr, cred, p); > if (error) > return (error); > fp->f_offset = SCARG(uap, offset) + vattr.va_size; > break; > case L_SET: > fp->f_offset = SCARG(uap, offset); > break; > default: > return (EINVAL); > } > *(off_t *)(p->p_retval) = fp->f_offset; > return (0); > } > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 8:35:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bumper.jellybaby.net (bumper.jellybaby.net [194.159.247.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB42F37B71F for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 08:35:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simond@bumper.jellybaby.net) Received: (from simond@localhost) by bumper.jellybaby.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) id QAA92527; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:35:17 GMT (envelope-from simond) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:35:17 +0000 From: simond@irrelevant.org To: Mike Tancsa Cc: simond@irrelevant.org, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Problem with top in todays stable Message-ID: <20010306163517.C91244@irrelevant.org> References: <20010306161215.A91244@irrelevant.org> <5.0.2.1.0.20010306111946.024357d0@marble.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010306111946.024357d0@marble.sentex.ca>; from mike@sentex.net on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 11:20:55AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 11:20:55AM -0500, Mike Tancsa wrote: > > At 04:12 PM 3/6/01 +0000, simond@irrelevant.org wrote: > >Despite having my kernel and world in sync (and trying rebuilting top > >seperately), I always get "top: nlist failed" error message, this is from > >a cvsup from a couple of hours ago, I haven't tried cvsuping again yet > >mainly as I have to work on this machine too. > > > >Anyone know if this has been fixed? > > Are you sure you are using /boot/loader to boot your system ? I'm using a standard install of FreeBSD, non dedicated install and doing the proper build process, top was working before the last buildworld, buildkernel, installkernel, installworld, mergemaster I did. -- Simon Dick simond@irrelevant.org "Why do I get this urge to go bowling everytime I see Tux?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 9: 7: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 644C237B71E for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:05:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gshapiro@gshapiro.net) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.0.Beta3/8.12.0.Beta3) id f26H5t8n093133; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:05:55 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15013.6387.316018.349375@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:05:55 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Stijn Hoop Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf owned by root? In-Reply-To: <20010306095359.B25494@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> References: <20010306095359.B25494@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.2 (beta42) "Poseidon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG stijn> I'm using cvsup to checkout a source tree that is not owned by root. stijn> Is it just me, or does somebody else also notice that every time stijn> after a cvsup wherein sendmail has been upgraded, stijn> /usr/src/contrib/sendmail/cf is suddenly owned by root? This causes stijn> the next cvsup to fail... Fixed yesterday: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/share/sendmail/Makefile.diff?r1=1.1.2.2&r2=1.1.2.3 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 9:29:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net [204.127.131.48]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B97437B71B for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:29:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from parv@worldnet.att.net) Received: from worldnet.att.net ([32.101.235.146]) by mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.16 201-229-121-116-20010115) with ESMTP id <20010306170140.IFCZ12661.mtiwmhc23.worldnet.att.net@worldnet.att.net> for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:01:40 +0000 Received: (from parv@localhost) by worldnet.att.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f26H21O22496 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:02:01 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from parv) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:02:00 -0500 From: parv To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: problem w/ make buildworld & sha1-586.so Message-ID: <20010306120200.A9343@moo.holy.cow> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG (i am using 4.2-stable on intel pentium iii 600/700 MHz) after sources are corrected for errors related to stty and successfully building world once (around 5a), i cvusp'd the sources (around 6-8 a) again & tried building the world, but the following error occured this time... (haven't seen any messages yet on this either on this list or on cvs-all, or on freebsd-questions) - parv ---- error log ---- ... cc -O -pipe -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto -I/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/lib crypto -DNO_IDEA -DL_ENDIAN -DSHA1_ASM -DBN_ASM -DMD5_ASM -DRMD160_ASM -DNO_IDEA -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/sec ure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/sha/sha_dgst.c -o sha_dgst.o cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto -I/usr/obj/usr/src/se cure/lib/libcrypto -DNO_IDEA -DL_ENDIAN -DSHA1_ASM -DBN_ASM -DMD5_ASM -DRMD160_ASM -DNO_IDEA -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/sha/sha_dgst.c -o sha_dgst.So cc -O -pipe -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto -I/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/lib crypto -DNO_IDEA -DL_ENDIAN -DSHA1_ASM -DBN_ASM -DMD5_ASM -DRMD160_ASM -DNO_IDEA -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/sec ure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/sha/sha_one.c -o sha_one.o cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto -I/usr/obj/usr/src/se cure/lib/libcrypto -DNO_IDEA -DL_ENDIAN -DSHA1_ASM -DBN_ASM -DMD5_ASM -DRMD160_ASM -DNO_IDEA -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/sha/sha_one.c -o sha_one.So cc -O -pipe -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto -I/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/lib crypto -DNO_IDEA -DL_ENDIAN -DSHA1_ASM -DBN_ASM -DMD5_ASM -DRMD160_ASM -DNO_IDEA -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/sec ure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/sha/sha1_one.c -o sha1_one.o cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto -I/usr/obj/usr/src/se cure/lib/libcrypto -DNO_IDEA -DL_ENDIAN -DSHA1_ASM -DBN_ASM -DMD5_ASM -DRMD160_ASM -DNO_IDEA -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/sha/sha1_one.c -o sha1_one.So cc -O -pipe -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto -I/usr/obj/usr/src/secure/lib/lib crypto -DNO_IDEA -DL_ENDIAN -DSHA1_ASM -DBN_ASM -DMD5_ASM -DRMD160_ASM -DNO_IDEA -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/sec ure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/sha/sha1dgst.c -o sha1dgst.o cc -fpic -DPIC -O -pipe -DTERMIOS -DANSI_SOURCE -I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto -I/usr/obj/usr/src/se cure/lib/libcrypto -DNO_IDEA -DL_ENDIAN -DSHA1_ASM -DBN_ASM -DMD5_ASM -DRMD160_ASM -DNO_IDEA -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/sha/sha1dgst.c -o sha1dgst.So perl -I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/des/asm:/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/cr ypto/perlasm /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/sha/asm/sha1-586.pl elf 386 > sha1-586.pl.s ; as sha1-586 .pl.s -o sha1-586.o perl -I/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/des/asm:/usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/cr ypto/perlasm /usr/src/secure/lib/libcrypto/../../../crypto/openssl/crypto/sha/asm/sha1-586.pl elf 386 > sha1-586.pl.s ; as sha1-586 .pl.s -o sha1-586.So sha1-586.pl.s: Assembler messages: sha1-586.pl.s:1: Error: Rest of line ignored. First ignored character is `%'. *** Error code 1 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 9:54:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salseiros.melim.com.br (salseiros.melim.com.br [200.215.110.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB5E537B71A for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 09:54:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ronan@melim.com.br) Received: from fazendinha (fazendinha.melim.com.br [192.168.168.42]) by salseiros.melim.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id OAA95756 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:47:34 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from ronan@melim.com.br) Message-ID: <037101c0a666$8cbc4e80$2aa8a8c0@melim.com.br> From: "Ronan Lucio" To: References: <200103021348.AA1468662404@stmail.pace.edu> Subject: Re: Error formating a second hd Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:54:53 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Jonathan, > What FreeBSD version are you using? I´m tried this with the versions 3.4-RELEASE and 4.1-RELEASE > What type of hard drive are you trying to format? I´m have FreeBSD intalled in a IDE HD and trying to format another IDE HD > Has FreeBSD/Linux ever been installed on that hard drive before? Yes, the first time had a FreeBSD 3.4 formatation, after the problem I formated with MS-DOS FAT32 and trying to format with FreeBSD 4.1 again > What is the exact error message? Error mounting /dev/wd2s1e on /hd2 : Invalid argument I got to format that HD creating a swap partition first, but I think it isn´t necessary, but, if I don´t creating a swap partition, the formatation don´t work. [ ]´s Ronan Lucio > ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- > From: "Ronan Lucio" > Date: Fri, 2 Mar 2001 15:29:33 -0300 > > >Hi all, > > > >I usually have a problem formating a second HD with FreeBSD. > > > >I execute /stand/sysinstall > >Configure - Fdisk - Create slice - w (write) > >Configure - Label - Create partition /hd2 - w (write) > > > >so, appears the follow error: > >Error mounting /dev/wd2s1e on /hd2 : Invalid argument > > > >Did somebody ever had this problem? > >I had this problem with different versions of FreeBSD in > >different HDs. > > > >Thank´s > >[ ]´s > > > >Ronan Lucio > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > -- > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Jonathan M. Slivko > Global IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Network > Pager: (917) 388-5304 (24/7) > Phone: (212) 663-1109 (6PM-12PM EST) > > "Microsoft, is that some kind of toilet paper?" > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > -- > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 10: 9:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E14137B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 10:09:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f26I4Fd01661; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:04:19 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200103061804.f26I4Fd01661@harmony.village.org> To: Fritz Heinrichmeyer Subject: Re: where is the place to start dhclient?, entry in pccard.conf Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:14:00 +0100." <3AA4FEB8.9732581C@fernuni-hagen.de> References: <3AA4FEB8.9732581C@fernuni-hagen.de> <20010306105030.72F2B11195@bsdi.dhs.org> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 11:04:15 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <3AA4FEB8.9732581C@fernuni-hagen.de> Fritz Heinrichmeyer writes: : Hello this mail has two topics, : : I have : pccard_enable="YES" : hostname=xxx : ifconfig_ed0="DHCP" : in my laptop : : in /etc/rc.conf : : but i have to start dhclient by hand. What is to do? In recent versions of stable, it just starts automatically in pccard_ether. : 2. topic: : : for my pcmcia d-link dfe-650 card it was necessary to include the : soundblaster io adresses : in the /etc/pccard.conf. Under windows the card uses 0x220! Odd. I've run this card at 0x240, 0x280 (I think) and 0x300. It really doesn't care, so long as there's not a conflict. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 11:49:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5A2637B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:49:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 49E7E66ED5; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:49:55 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:49:55 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: parv Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: problem w/ make buildworld & sha1-586.so Message-ID: <20010306114955.B60336@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <20010306120200.A9343@moo.holy.cow> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010306120200.A9343@moo.holy.cow>; from parv_@yahoo.com on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 12:02:00PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 12:02:00PM -0500, parv wrote: >=20 > (i am using 4.2-stable on intel pentium iii 600/700 MHz) >=20 > after sources are corrected for errors related to stty and successfully= =20 > building world once (around 5a), i cvusp'd the sources (around 6-8 a) aga= in=20 > & tried building the world, but the following error occured=20 > this time... >=20 > (haven't seen any messages yet on this either on this list or on cvs-all,= =20 > or on freebsd-questions)=20 Are you using any -j options to make? Turns out there's a potential problem with parallel builds which I hope to fix tonight. Kris --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pT9iWry0BWjoQKURAlK9AJ0TnM2TsuJcdvRwz5n31LWoCxcy9wCgxYj/ /5i6MRMnmfxCXkZMyGTebjQ= =q088 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --tKW2IUtsqtDRztdT-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 11:51:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sttlpop3.sttl.uswest.net (sttlpop3.sttl.uswest.net [206.81.192.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9152537B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 11:51:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kmills@a6l.net) Received: (qmail 24615 invoked by alias); 6 Mar 2001 19:41:51 -0000 Delivered-To: fixup-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org@fixme Received: (qmail 19444 invoked by uid 0); 6 Mar 2001 19:40:09 -0000 Received: from www.a6l.net (HELO a6l.net) (63.229.13.49) by pop.sttl.uswest.net with SMTP; 6 Mar 2001 19:40:09 -0000 Received: (qmail 2561 invoked by uid 1002); 6 Mar 2001 19:40:09 -0000 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Problems with nfsd after cvsup From: Kevin Mills Date: 06 Mar 2001 11:40:09 -0800 Message-ID: <85d7bur8iu.fsf@diablo.in.a6l.net> Lines: 46 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.5/XEmacs 20.4 - "Emerald" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been running a server using 4.2-RELEASE and decided to update (March 2) to fix the "known pthread bugs." After my upgrade, nfs clients get the following when trying to mount: NFS Portmap: RPC: Program not registered On the local machine, rpcinfo -p produces: program vers proto port 100000 2 tcp 111 portmapper 100000 2 udp 111 portmapper 100001 1 udp 830 rstatd 100001 2 udp 830 rstatd 100001 3 udp 830 rstatd 100002 1 udp 957 rusersd 100002 2 udp 957 rusersd 100002 3 udp 957 rusersd 100003 2 udp 2049 nfs 100003 3 udp 2049 nfs 100003 2 tcp 2049 nfs 100003 3 tcp 2049 nfs 100005 3 udp 1023 mountd 100005 3 tcp 1023 mountd 100005 1 udp 1023 mountd 100005 1 tcp 1023 mountd 100024 1 udp 1011 status 100024 1 tcp 1022 status However, on a client machine rpcinfo -p theserver produces: program vers proto port 100000 2 tcp 111 portmapper 100000 2 udp 111 portmapper And my /etc/hosts.allow file reads: ALL : ALL : allow What is going on here? Why isn't nfs showing up for the clients? Any ideas? Thanks! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 12:16:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from web115.yahoomail.com (web115.mail.yahoo.com [205.180.60.88]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ADE9337B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:16:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from parv_@yahoo.com) Received: (qmail 22331 invoked by uid 60001); 6 Mar 2001 20:16:23 -0000 Message-ID: <20010306201623.22330.qmail@web115.yahoomail.com> Received: from [56.0.96.15] by web115.yahoomail.com; Tue, 06 Mar 2001 12:16:23 PST Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:16:23 -0800 (PST) From: parv Subject: Re: problem w/ make buildworld & sha1-586.so To: Kris Kennaway Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <20010306114955.B60336@mollari.cthul.hu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 12:02:00PM -0500, parv wrote: > > > > after sources are corrected for errors related to stty > > and successfully building world once (around 5a), i cvsup'd > > the sources (around 6-8 a) again & tried building the world, > > but the following error occurred this time... > > > > (haven't seen any messages yet on this ...) > Are you using any -j options to make? Turns out there's a > potential > problem with parallel builds which I hope to fix tonight. > > Kris yes kris. i was using -j4 the latter time; previous successful build was done w/o any -j option. though, i realized this while taking shower, and emailed, the realization went to -questions instead of -stable. sorry about that. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 12:29:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from maila.telia.com (maila.telia.com [194.22.194.231]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B257C37B71A for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 12:29:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from watchman@ludd.luth.se) Received: from d1o906.telia.com (d1o906.telia.com [195.252.36.241]) by maila.telia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA01462; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:29:36 +0100 (CET) Received: from ludd.luth.se (h12n1fls20o906.telia.com [213.64.92.12]) by d1o906.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id VAA01912; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:29:24 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3AA548A3.7D0206E2@ludd.luth.se> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 21:29:23 +0100 From: Joachim =?iso-8859-1?Q?Str=F6mbergson?= Organization: Acne X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en-US MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Christopher Farley , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: buildworld fails References: <20010306022450.B20720@northernbrewer.com> <20010306010331.C92634@mollari.cthul.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hola! Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 02:24:51AM -0600, Christopher Farley wrote: > > I cvsupped sources this evening, and am having a buildworld problem. I > > recently had an adventure with fsck, so this may be a problem unique to > > me. Any pointers? > > Our illustrious release engineer broke the build by doing a partial > merge of some changes :-). It should be fixed by now. Yes. I can now confirm that the problems me and Christopher had in bin/stty has been fixed. I did a cvsup 17:28 CET and the subsequent buildworld now goes through without errors. Good work committers! -- Cheers! Joachim - Alltid i harmonisk svängning --- FairLight ------ FairLight ------ FairLight ------ FairLight --- Joachim Strömbergson ASIC SoC designer, nice to CUTE animals Phone: +46(0)31 - 27 98 47 Web: http://www.ludd.luth.se/~watchman --------------- Spamfodder: regeringen@regeringen.se --------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 13:33: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gratis.grondar.za (grouter.grondar.za [196.7.18.65]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9DBBF37B71A; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 13:32:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Received: from grondar.za (root@gratis.grondar.za [196.7.18.133]) by gratis.grondar.za (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f26LWmR55566; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:32:50 +0200 (SAST) (envelope-from mark@grondar.za) Message-Id: <200103062132.f26LWmR55566@gratis.grondar.za> To: Maxim Sobolev Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Can't build 5-current world on 4-stable box (perl doesn't bootstrap properly) References: <3AA4E580.8A59728C@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <3AA4E580.8A59728C@FreeBSD.org> ; from Maxim Sobolev "Tue, 06 Mar 2001 15:26:24 +0200." Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 23:33:41 +0200 From: Mark Murray Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I reported it about a month ago, but the problem still persists. 5-current > buildworld can't be performed on reasonably recent 4-stable system, hence > source upgrade path from -stable to -current is broken. Please fix. I just did this on 4-STABLE with no problems at all. M -- Mark Murray Warning: this .sig is umop ap!sdn To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 14: 9: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from math.uic.edu (galois.math.uic.edu [131.193.178.114]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AFC5137B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 14:08:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vladimir@math.uic.edu) Received: (qmail 9259 invoked by uid 31415); 6 Mar 2001 22:08:27 -0000 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:08:27 -0600 From: "Vladimir V. Egorin" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: hardware support question Message-ID: <20010306160827.B9205@math.uic.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This might belong more to -questions, my apologies if I've chosen a wrong group. I would greatly appreciate some help with a purchase decision. I am planning to order a Xircom 56K V.90 PC Card modem and a Xircom 10/100 Ethernet II PC card for a laptop running 4.2-STABLE (built on Feb 15). Could anyone please comment on support of these cards in -STABLE? I've checked the supported hardware page and didn't see them listed, but these should be standard PCMCIA cards, right? Thank you, -- Vladimir To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 15:13:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.rdc2.ab.home.com (mail2.rdc2.ab.home.com [24.64.2.49]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CF5137B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:13:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cskoster@home.com) Received: from home.com ([24.67.70.42]) by mail2.rdc2.ab.home.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.00 201-229-121) with ESMTP id <20010306231330.STAR825.mail2.rdc2.ab.home.com@home.com> for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:13:30 -0800 Message-ID: <3AA56E10.20FD71B3@home.com> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:09:04 -0700 From: chris koster X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: subscribe Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 15:37:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bali.trilogy.com (bali.trilogy.com [149.74.161.104]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28A7237B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 15:37:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from harlan@bali.trilogy.com) Received: from bali.trilogy.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by bali.trilogy.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B17BF172AC; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:37:17 -0600 (CST) To: cjclark@alum.mit.edu Cc: Harlan Stenn , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, harlan@bali.trilogy.com Subject: Re: nlist failed for top in -STABLE In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 06 Mar 2001 00:59:57 PST." <20010306005957.F1367@cjc-desktop.users.reflexcom.com> User-Agent: EMH/1.10.0 REMI/1.14.2 (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Hokuhoku-=D2shima?=) Chao/1.14.1 (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Rokujiz=F2?=) APEL/10.2 XEmacs/21.1 (patch 12) (Channel Islands) (sparc-sun-solaris2.8) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by REMI 1.14.2 - =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Hokuhoku-=D2?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?shima=22?=) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 17:37:17 -0600 Message-ID: <16649.983921837@bali.trilogy.com> From: Harlan Stenn Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG harlan@freeb> which top /usr/bin/top harlan@freeb> sysctl kern.bootfile kern.bootfile: /kernel harlan@freeb> ls -l /usr/bin/top /kernel -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 3308851 Mar 6 01:45 /kernel* -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 32224 Mar 6 01:51 /usr/bin/top* harlan@freeb> I'm using the "standard" FreeBSD boot blocks. The troubleshooting HTML page about using the boot loader didn't tell me much... H To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 16:19:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B86BA37B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:19:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id B1D686A90D; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:49:17 +1030 (CST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:49:17 +1030 From: Greg Lehey To: Peter.Blok@inter.NL.net Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: DDB watch Message-ID: <20010307104917.O92844@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <200102282359.AAA10244@altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200102282359.AAA10244@altrade.nijmegen.inter.nl.net>; from Peter.Blok@inter.NL.net on Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 11:59:46PM +0000 Organization: LEMIS, PO Box 460, Echunga SA 5153, Australia Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.lemis.com/~grog X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 7B C3 8C 61 CD 54 AF 13 24 52 F8 6D A4 95 EF Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wednesday, 28 February 2001 at 23:59:46 +0000, Peter.Blok@inter.NL.net wrote: >> On Sunday, 25 February 2001 at 22:52:11 +0100, Peter Blok wrote: >>> Hi, >>> >>> I was trying to setup a "watch" in DDB. When it hits it, the kernel >>> reboots. Am I doing something wrong or isn't it working. I start up >>> with boot -d set a breakpoint somewhere, hits breakpoint and set >>> watchpoint. After the continue it crashes, without a backtrace. Just >>> a black screen and reboot. >> >> There are places where you can't set a breakpoint. An obvious place >> is in the ddb code: if you hit a breakpoint there, you're going to >> recurse to the top of the stack and crash. There are other less >> obvious places, and I suspect that's what you have hit. > > The location was ok. I suddenly realize it was on a dual cpu > system. Could SMP break the watch behavior? It shouldn't do. Greg -- Finger grog@lemis.com for PGP public key See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 16:19:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from c007.snv.cp.net (c007-h015.c007.snv.cp.net [209.228.33.222]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 64B8F37B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:19:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from otterr@telocity.com) Received: (cpmta 18353 invoked from network); 6 Mar 2001 16:19:37 -0800 Received: from dsl-216-227-91-85.telocity.com (HELO zoso) (216.227.91.85) by smtp.telocity.com (209.228.33.222) with SMTP; 6 Mar 2001 16:19:37 -0800 X-Sent: 7 Mar 2001 00:19:37 GMT From: "Otter" To: "'Vladimir V. Egorin'" , Subject: RE: hardware support question Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:08:49 -0500 Message-ID: <001f01c0a69a$c9f9f570$1401a8c0@zoso> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) In-Reply-To: <20010306160827.B9205@math.uic.edu> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG check out ftp://freesoftware.com/.0/FreeBSD/branches/4.0-stable/src/etc/pccard.c onf.sample -Otter > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of > Vladimir V. Egorin > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 5:08 PM > To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Subject: hardware support question > > > This might belong more to -questions, my apologies > if I've chosen a wrong group. I would greatly appreciate > some help with a purchase decision. I am planning > to order a Xircom 56K V.90 PC Card modem and a Xircom > 10/100 Ethernet II PC card for a laptop running > 4.2-STABLE (built on Feb 15). Could anyone please > comment on support of these cards in -STABLE? I've > checked the supported hardware page and didn't see > them listed, but these should be standard PCMCIA > cards, right? > > Thank you, > -- > Vladimir > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 16:20: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from poontang.schulte.org (poontang.schulte.org [209.134.156.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0426937B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:19:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from christopher@schulte.org) Received: from ronayne.schulte.org (nb-22.netbriefings.com [204.72.185.22]) by poontang.schulte.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA59797; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:19:14 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from christopher@schulte.org) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010306181138.04bb7ec0@pop.schulte.org> X-Sender: schulte@pop.schulte.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 18:19:02 -0600 To: Dima Dorfman , "Alexandr A. Listopad" From: Christopher Schulte Subject: Re: nlist failed for top in -STABLE Cc: Harlan Stenn , stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20010306084507.124F43E0C@bazooka.unixfreak.org> References: <20010306102234.A10830@laa.zp.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A question arose from this thread: What if: a) I install a -RELEASE from cd b) do an daily cron'd cvsup of stable sources c) want to rebuild a new kernel d) don't want to do a full make world The new kernel I build will obviously be of -STABLE, yet userland will still be -RELEASE installed from cd. Is it best to cvsup only if you're prepared to do a full `make world` and `make kernel` at the same time to keep userland and kernel both in sync? Will I run into problems running a -STABLE kernel with -RELEASE userland binaries and libraries? At 12:45 AM 3/6/2001 -0800, Dima Dorfman wrote: >"Alexandr A. Listopad" writes: > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 02:15:29AM -0600, Harlan Stenn wrote: > > > I've been unable to get "top" working on a -STABLE box for the past week > > > or so. > > same problem: > >http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/troubleshoot.html#NLIST-FAILED > >Have you read that? > > Dima Dorfman > dima@unixfreak.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 16:27: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3874037B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:27:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f270O0n26118; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:24:00 -0800 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:24:00 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: Christopher Schulte Cc: Dima Dorfman , "Alexandr A. Listopad" , Harlan Stenn , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nlist failed for top in -STABLE Message-ID: <20010306162400.A25355@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <20010306102234.A10830@laa.zp.ua> <20010306084507.124F43E0C@bazooka.unixfreak.org> <5.0.2.1.0.20010306181138.04bb7ec0@pop.schulte.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010306181138.04bb7ec0@pop.schulte.org>; from christopher@schulte.org on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 06:19:02PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 06:19:02PM -0600, Christopher Schulte wrote: > Is it best to cvsup only if you're prepared to do a full `make world` and= =20 > `make kernel` at the same time to keep userland and kernel both in sync? Yes. > Will I run into problems running a -STABLE kernel with -RELEASE userland= =20 > binaries and libraries? Yes. At best ps and top will break occationaly. Other things like mount may also break is very messy ways (up to and including kernel panics.) Much of this is fixed in -current, but not all of it by any means. In general, don't update your source unless you plan to build and install a new world and kernel. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pX+fXY6L6fI4GtQRAtStAJ40rnsf4H02rsRKzVxB/p7XQFpO3wCgmvFS 9LJWhhEqFJBgQRAHotEMa2U= =eJWU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0OAP2g/MAC+5xKAE-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 16:50:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.futuresouth.com (shell.futuresouth.com [198.78.58.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F28D37B71B for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:50:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fullermd@futuresouth.com) Received: (from fullermd@localhost) by shell.futuresouth.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f270nwq17882; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:49:58 -0600 (CST) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:49:57 -0600 From: "Matthew D. Fuller" To: Gregory Bond Cc: Kevin Oberman , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Annoying gotcha with soft updates Message-ID: <20010306184957.A8149@futuresouth.com> References: <200103052220.JAA29725@lightning.itga.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103052220.JAA29725@lightning.itga.com.au>; from gnb@itga.com.au on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 09:20:36AM +1100 X-OS: FreeBSD Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 09:20:36AM +1100, a little birdie told me that Gregory Bond remarked > > Put /tmp on a ramdisk and /var in its own partition and there is no need for > softupdates on /. FWIW, I have seperate partitions for /tmp and /var, and / is mounted sync. Does some interesting things to installworld times, but it makes me feel warm and fuzzy :) /dev/da0s1a on / (ufs, local, synchronous) -- Matthew Fuller (MF4839) | fullermd@over-yonder.net Unix Systems Administrator | fullermd@futuresouth.com Specializing in FreeBSD | http://www.over-yonder.net/ "The only reason I'm burning my candle at both ends, is because I haven't figured out how to light the middle yet" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 16:50:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com [207.113.159.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16F4037B71A for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:50:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from imap.gv.tsc.tdk.com (imap.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.198]) by gatekeeper.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA13370; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:50:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gdonl@tsc.tdk.com) Received: from salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com [192.168.241.194]) by imap.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA81729; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:50:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Don.Lewis@tsc.tdk.com) Received: (from gdonl@localhost) by salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA10650; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:50:02 -0800 (PST) From: Don Lewis Message-Id: <200103070050.QAA10650@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 16:50:01 -0800 In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010306093835.0378aaf0@marble.sentex.ca> References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010306093835.0378aaf0@marble.sentex.ca> X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.2.6 beta(5) 10/07/98) To: Mike Tancsa , Lev Serebryakov , All Subject: Re: ``broken pipe'' in 4.2-STABLE: pkg_add AND man! Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Mar 6, 9:39am, Mike Tancsa wrote: } Subject: Re: ``broken pipe'' in 4.2-STABLE: pkg_add AND man! } } See the recent threads on this list } Re: more strange problem with broken pipes and ssh } } ---Mike And the PR bin/24748. } At 05:32 PM 3/6/01 +0300, Lev Serebryakov wrote: } >Hello All, } > } > I running FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE from 28 of Feb. } > And when I'm connected over ssh, I have got `broken pipe' error not } > only from pkg_add, but also from man, when I press `q': } > } > zcat: stdout: Broken pipe } > } >-- } >Best regards, } > Lev mailto:Lev.Serebryakov@arcadia.spb.ru } > } > } > } >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org } >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message } } } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org } with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message }-- End of excerpt from Mike Tancsa To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 17:10:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from evil.blunt.yi.org (ip-216-23-55-190.adsl.one.net [216.23.55.190]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C26837B71A; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:10:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cokane@evil.blunt.yi.org) Received: (from cokane@localhost) by evil.blunt.yi.org (8.11.3/8.11.2) id f271NY854868; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:23:34 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from cokane) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:23:33 -0500 From: Coleman Kane To: Mark Murray Cc: Maxim Sobolev , current@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Can't build 5-current world on 4-stable box (perl doesn't bootstrap properly) Message-ID: <20010306202333.A54846@cokane.yi.org> References: <3AA4E580.8A59728C@FreeBSD.org> <200103062132.f26LWmR55566@gratis.grondar.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt" X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <200103062132.f26LWmR55566@gratis.grondar.za>; from mark@grondar.za on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 11:33:41PM +0200 X-Vim: vim:tw=70:ts=4:sw=4 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Make sure you delete /usr/obj, I just did this too. Sometimes /usr/obj mess= es stuff up, also make sure that make.conf and all don't have any conflicting options set. Usually, I don't use things like -O2 optimizations for new mak= es. Make sure that isn't in your CFLAGS, also it would be a help to see the err= or message you get. Mark Murray had the audacity to say: >=20 > > I reported it about a month ago, but the problem still persists. 5-curr= ent > > buildworld can't be performed on reasonably recent 4-stable system, hen= ce > > source upgrade path from -stable to -current is broken. Please fix. >=20 > I just did this on 4-STABLE with no problems at all. >=20 > M > --=20 > Mark Murray > Warning: this .sig is umop ap!sdn >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >=20 --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pY2VERViMObJ880RAaAiAJ0X2Y5UrmgDCsBs8lcEPlrhkkeWWgCgwCce GbxMNkSvZ4GQ1yADHeUwIUg= =oYk6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pf9I7BMVVzbSWLtt-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 17:12:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from xena.gsicomp.on.ca (cr677933-a.ktchnr1.on.wave.home.com [24.43.230.149]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 208BD37B71A; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 17:12:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Received: from hermes (hermes.gsicomp.on.ca [192.168.0.18]) by xena.gsicomp.on.ca (8.11.1/8.9.3) with SMTP id f271Ali39508; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:10:47 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from matt@gsicomp.on.ca) Message-ID: <008201c0a6a4$172b1280$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> From: "Matthew Emmerton" To: "Fritz Heinrichmeyer" , Cc: References: <20010306105030.72F2B11195@bsdi.dhs.org> <3AA4FEB8.9732581C@fernuni-hagen.de> Subject: Re: where is the place to start dhclient?, entry in pccard.conf Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:15:25 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I have > pccard_enable="YES" > hostname=xxx > ifconfig_ed0="DHCP" > in my laptop > > in /etc/rc.conf > > but i have to start dhclient by hand. What is to do? You shouldn't have to enable dhclient by hand. It should be started automatically by rc.network since you've specified ifconfig_ed0="DHCP". Do you have a network_interfaces="lo0 ed0" line in your /etc/rc.conf? -- Matt Emmerton To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 18:17:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zircon.seattle.wa.us (sense-sea-CovadSub-0-228.oz.net [216.39.147.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 58CC137B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:17:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us) Received: (qmail 353 invoked by uid 1001); 7 Mar 2001 02:17:05 -0000 From: Joe Kelsey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15013.39457.554494.259514@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:17:05 -0800 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 4.3-BETA #0: mergemaster problems X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under Emacs 20.7.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have been trying to update my system fro the last week or so. The basic problem is that whenever I managed to catch a cvsup which did not have pre-4.3 build errors, mergemaster consistently failed. I used the "frozen" code to attempt another build, after failing this weekend due to the large number of changes happening. It build successfully, but mergemaster still fails in the same place: ===> monthly install -c -o root -g wheel -m 755 200.accounting 999.local /var/tmp/temproot/etc/periodic/monthly install -c -o root -g wheel -m 0644 /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/send-pr/categories /var/tmp/temproot/etc/gnats/freefall rm -f /var/tmp/temproot/etc/termcap ln -s /usr/share/misc/termcap /var/tmp/temproot/etc/termcap rm -f /var/tmp/temproot/etc/rmt ln -s /usr/sbin/rmt /var/tmp/temproot/etc/rmt make: don't know how to make distribution. Stop *** Error code 2 Stop in /usr/src/etc. *** FATAL ERROR: Cannot 'cd' to /usr/src/etc and install files to the temproot environment # ls -l /usr/src total 111 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 4735 Sep 5 1999 COPYRIGHT drwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 512 Oct 16 12:48 CVS -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 7476 Mar 5 17:37 Makefile -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 26242 Mar 5 17:37 Makefile.inc1 -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 9761 Aug 27 1999 Makefile.upgrade -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 2642 Oct 28 12:25 README -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 31573 Mar 2 13:52 UPDATING drwxr-xr-x 32 root wheel 1024 Nov 11 21:08 bin drwxr-xr-x 41 root wheel 1024 Dec 12 17:43 contrib drwxr-xr-x 7 root wheel 512 Feb 10 12:32 crypto drwxr-xr-x 14 root wheel 2048 Mar 5 17:39 etc drwxr-xr-x 41 root wheel 1024 Oct 16 13:06 games drwxr-xr-x 7 root wheel 512 Oct 16 13:04 gnu drwxr-xr-x 6 root wheel 1536 Mar 5 17:39 include drwxr-xr-x 7 root wheel 512 Mar 4 12:44 kerberos5 drwxr-xr-x 8 root wheel 512 Mar 4 12:44 kerberosIV drwxr-xr-x 55 root wheel 1024 Oct 28 12:26 lib drwxr-xr-x 33 root wheel 1024 Oct 16 13:09 libexec drwxr-xr-x 8 root wheel 512 Mar 5 17:39 release drwxr-xr-x 74 root wheel 1536 Oct 16 13:10 sbin drwxr-xr-x 6 root wheel 512 Oct 16 13:21 secure drwxr-xr-x 20 root wheel 512 Oct 23 16:57 share drwxr-xr-x 46 root wheel 1024 Nov 11 21:10 sys drwxr-xr-x 8 root wheel 512 Oct 16 13:19 tools drwxr-xr-x 211 root wheel 3584 Oct 16 23:37 usr.bin drwxr-xr-x 153 root wheel 3072 Oct 16 13:19 usr.sbin # I have never had problems with mergemaster before. And, yes, I am following the proscribed order (buildworld, buildkernel, installkernel, reboot, installworld, mergemaster). Thanks for any help. /Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 18:26:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D004537B71A for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:26:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 713ED66ED6; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:26:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:26:40 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Christopher Schulte Cc: Dima Dorfman , "Alexandr A. Listopad" , Harlan Stenn , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nlist failed for top in -STABLE Message-ID: <20010306182640.A64513@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <20010306102234.A10830@laa.zp.ua> <20010306084507.124F43E0C@bazooka.unixfreak.org> <5.0.2.1.0.20010306181138.04bb7ec0@pop.schulte.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/04w6evG8XlLl3ft" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010306181138.04bb7ec0@pop.schulte.org>; from christopher@schulte.org on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 06:19:02PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 06:19:02PM -0600, Christopher Schulte wrote: > Will I run into problems running a -STABLE kernel with -RELEASE userland= =20 > binaries and libraries? Yes. This isn't supported. Kris --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pZxgWry0BWjoQKURAlzyAKDNyrnycOvdap8CDL3/sCIs2IhywgCgqzKn w+hxoDnssJkfhYtTqxAUUDc= =oqyo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/04w6evG8XlLl3ft-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 18:44:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mls.gtonet.net (mls.gtonet.net [216.112.90.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C78537B71B for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:44:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oldfart@gtonet.net) Received: from pld (pld.gtonet.net [216.112.90.200]) by mls.gtonet.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id f272iHm37286; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:44:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oldfart@gtonet.net) Reply-To: From: "oldfart@gtonet" To: "Joe Kelsey" , Subject: RE: 4.3-BETA #0: mergemaster problems Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:44:17 -0800 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <15013.39457.554494.259514@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Joe Kelsey > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 6:17 PM > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: 4.3-BETA #0: mergemaster problems > > > I have been trying to update my system fro the last week or so. The > basic problem is that whenever I managed to catch a cvsup which did not > have pre-4.3 build errors, mergemaster consistently failed. > > I used the "frozen" code to attempt another build, after failing this > weekend due to the large number of changes happening. It build > successfully, but mergemaster still fails in the same place: > > ===> monthly > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 755 200.accounting 999.local > /var/tmp/temproot/etc/periodic/monthly > install -c -o root -g wheel -m 0644 > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/send-pr/categories > /var/tmp/temproot/etc/gnats/freefall > rm -f /var/tmp/temproot/etc/termcap > ln -s /usr/share/misc/termcap /var/tmp/temproot/etc/termcap > rm -f /var/tmp/temproot/etc/rmt > ln -s /usr/sbin/rmt /var/tmp/temproot/etc/rmt > make: don't know how to make distribution. Stop > *** Error code 2 > > Stop in /usr/src/etc. > > *** FATAL ERROR: Cannot 'cd' to /usr/src/etc and install files to the > temproot environment > > I have never had problems with mergemaster before. And, yes, I am > following the proscribed order (buildworld, buildkernel, installkernel, > reboot, installworld, mergemaster). I had a box like that once what I did was, check /etc/make.conf for the flags you want/need cd /usr/obj ; chflags -R noschg * ; rm -rf * ; ls -aCF cd /usr/src/ make clean && make clean then cvsup make buildworld make buildkernel installkernel KERNCONF=GENERIC shutdown now (single user mode) make installworld /usr/sbin/mergemaster cd /usr/src/release/sysinstall make all install clean reboot * Then customize a new kernel to suit your needs and reboot once more. Now that's just what worked for me, might not even be the same problem. Good luck, OF > > Thanks for any help. > > /Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 19: 2:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cfcl.com (cpe-24-221-169-54.ca.sprintbbd.net [24.221.169.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E1D6737B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:02:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdm@cfcl.com) Received: from [192.168.168.205] (cerberus [192.168.168.205]) by cfcl.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2733MR36072 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:03:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdm@cfcl.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 18:59:11 -0800 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Rich Morin Subject: "make buildworld" fails on FreeBSD 4.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a rather vanilla installation of FreeBSD 4.2, which I loaded from the installation CD-ROM. Because I wanted to be able to look over the /usr/obj tree (without actually changing anything on the system, I went to /usr/src and (as root) did a "make buildworld". I was quite distressed to find that it failed, as: ... cc -O -pipe -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DPREFIX=\"/usr/obj/usr/sr c/i386/usr\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/ ../../../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gc c/config -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp -I. -I/u sr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../c ontrib/gcc/cp/method.c cc -O -pipe -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DPREFIX=\"/usr/obj/usr/sr c/i386/usr\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_tools -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/ ../../../../contrib/gcc -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gc c/config -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp -I. -I/u sr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../c ontrib/gcc/cp/pt.c cc: Internal compiler error: program as got fatal signal 11 *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. *** Error code 1 Stop in /usr/src. (SU) rdm@cfcl.com [/usr/src] 2: /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../cont rib/gcc/cp/pt.c: In function `tsubst_expr_values': /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp/pt.c:9624: output pip e has been closed Is this a known problem, preferably with a known workaround? BTW, I have a "script" listing from the build attempt, in case there is anything I need to examine... -r -- -- http://www.cfcl.com/rdm email: rdm@cfcl.com phone: +1 650-873-7841 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 19: 2:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from backup.af.speednet.com.au (af.speednet.com.au [202.135.188.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE11137B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:02:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from backup.af.speednet.com.au (backup.af.speednet.com.au [172.22.2.4]) by backup.af.speednet.com.au (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f27315u27599 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:01:06 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:59:49 +1100 (EST) From: Andy Farkas X-Sender: andyf@backup.af.speednet.com.au To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Typo in GENERIC Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hardly Earth shattering material..... > diff -u GENERIC.orig GENERIC --- GENERIC.orig Wed Mar 7 13:56:42 2001 +++ GENERIC Wed Mar 7 13:57:02 2001 @@ -192,7 +192,7 @@ device ep device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 # WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really -# exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attatement needed +# exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attachment needed # and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard code. device wi # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration below will -- :{ andyf@speednet.com.au Andy Farkas System Administrator Speednet Communications http://www.speednet.com.au/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 19:13:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.linkline.com (mail.linkline.com [192.216.128.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7030E37B718; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:13:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from don@mars.siad.net) Received: from mars.siad.net [64.30.197.79] by mail.linkline.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-6.06) id A6DB262600FC; Tue, 06 Mar 2001 19:11:23 -0800 Message-ID: <3AA5A70A.2CCAA651@mars.siad.net> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 19:12:10 -0800 From: don X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: Fritz Heinrichmeyer , imp@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: where is the place to start dhclient?, entry in pccard.conf References: <20010306105030.72F2B11195@bsdi.dhs.org> <3AA4FEB8.9732581C@fernuni-hagen.de> <008201c0a6a4$172b1280$1200a8c0@gsicomp.on.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Try setting (pccard_ifconfig="DHCP") in rc.conf. Matthew Emmerton wrote: > > I have > > pccard_enable="YES" > > hostname=xxx > > ifconfig_ed0="DHCP" > > in my laptop > > > > in /etc/rc.conf > > > > but i have to start dhclient by hand. What is to do? > > You shouldn't have to enable dhclient by hand. It should be started > automatically by rc.network since you've specified ifconfig_ed0="DHCP". Do > you have a network_interfaces="lo0 ed0" line in your /etc/rc.conf? > > -- > Matt Emmerton > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 19:23:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from level3.dynacom.net (level3.dynacom.net [206.107.213.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1E17D37B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:23:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: (qmail 4922 invoked by uid 0); 7 Mar 2001 03:23:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO urx.com) (206.159.132.160) by mail.urx.com with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 03:23:21 -0000 Message-ID: <3AA5A9A8.C1E7CC92@urx.com> Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 19:23:20 -0800 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rich Morin Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: "make buildworld" fails on FreeBSD 4.2 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rich Morin wrote: > > I have a rather vanilla installation of FreeBSD 4.2, which I loaded > from the installation CD-ROM. Because I wanted to be able to look > over the /usr/obj tree (without actually changing anything on the > system, I went to /usr/src and (as root) did a "make buildworld". I > was quite distressed to find that it failed, as: > > ... > cc -O -pipe -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H > -DPREFIX=\"/usr/obj/usr/sr > c/i386/usr\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_tools > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_tools > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/ > ../../../../contrib/gcc > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gc > c/config -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp > -I. -I/u > sr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../c > ontrib/gcc/cp/method.c > cc -O -pipe -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H > -DPREFIX=\"/usr/obj/usr/sr > c/i386/usr\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_tools > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_tools > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/ > ../../../../contrib/gcc > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gc > c/config -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp > -I. -I/u > sr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../c > ontrib/gcc/cp/pt.c > cc: Internal compiler error: program as got fatal signal 11 > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > (SU) rdm@cfcl.com [/usr/src] 2: > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../cont > rib/gcc/cp/pt.c: In function `tsubst_expr_values': > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp/pt.c:9624: > output pip > e has been closed > > Is this a known problem, preferably with a known workaround? BTW, I have > a "script" listing from the build attempt, in case there is anything I need > to examine... Your hardware for starters beginning with your memory, and then heat sensitive components. There is a faq on sig-11's. Kent > > -r > -- > -- > http://www.cfcl.com/rdm > email: rdm@cfcl.com > phone: +1 650-873-7841 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 19:30:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E243537B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:30:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id TAA17842; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:30:21 -0800 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda17840; Tue Mar 6 19:30:17 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f273UBx77823; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:30:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdQ77813; Tue Mar 6 19:29:46 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f273Tic16387; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:29:44 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103070329.f273Tic16387@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdg16368; Tue Mar 6 19:28:49 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: Rich Morin Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "make buildworld" fails on FreeBSD 4.2 In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 06 Mar 2001 18:59:11 PST." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 19:28:49 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message , Rich Morin writes: > I have a rather vanilla installation of FreeBSD 4.2, which I loaded > from the installation CD-ROM. Because I wanted to be able to look > over the /usr/obj tree (without actually changing anything on the > system, I went to /usr/src and (as root) did a "make buildworld". I > was quite distressed to find that it failed, as: > > ... > cc -O -pipe -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H > -DPREFIX=\"/usr/obj/usr/sr > c/i386/usr\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_too > ls > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_tools > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/ > ../../../../contrib/gcc > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gc > c/config -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp > -I. -I/u > sr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../c > ontrib/gcc/cp/method.c > cc -O -pipe -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H > -DPREFIX=\"/usr/obj/usr/sr > c/i386/usr\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_too > ls > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_tools > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/ > ../../../../contrib/gcc > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gc > c/config -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp > -I. -I/u > sr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../c > ontrib/gcc/cp/pt.c > cc: Internal compiler error: program as got fatal signal 11 > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > (SU) rdm@cfcl.com [/usr/src] 2: > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../cont > rib/gcc/cp/pt.c: In function `tsubst_expr_values': > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp/pt.c:9624: > output pip > e has been closed > > Is this a known problem, preferably with a known workaround? BTW, I have > a "script" listing from the build attempt, in case there is anything I need > to examine... Yes this is a known problem. Systems with hardware problems, e.g. defective memory, defective CPU, or heat problems, will suffer signal 11's, spontaneous reboots, and system hangs, and even corrupted filesystems during make buildworld. There is no workaround. The solution is to replace the defective part or if your problem is heat related, clean or replace CPU and/or power supply fans. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 19:33:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cerberus.dympna.com (adsl-64-216-18-129.dsl.snantx.swbell.net [64.216.18.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17F0137B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:33:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lists@dympna.com) Received: from dympna.com (basil.dympna.com [10.0.0.2]) by cerberus.dympna.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA27521; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:28:09 -0600 Received: from solo (solo.dympna.com [10.0.0.16]) by dympna.com (8.11.1/8.11.0) with SMTP id f273WUc79170; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:32:30 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from lists@dympna.com) Message-ID: <004d01c0a6b7$6ad5db00$1000000a@dympna.com> From: "Rob Snow" To: , "Rich Morin" References: Subject: Re: "make buildworld" fails on FreeBSD 4.2 Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:33:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I must reiterate Kent's comments. No offense, but your hardware is broken. FreeBSD tends to push HW in places it not used to and is quite sensitive to marginal memory. (I've run CAS2 overclocked on a wintel box and had the same clk/memclk fail under FreeBSD) -Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Morin" To: Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 8:59 PM Subject: "make buildworld" fails on FreeBSD 4.2 > I have a rather vanilla installation of FreeBSD 4.2, which I loaded > from the installation CD-ROM. Because I wanted to be able to look > over the /usr/obj tree (without actually changing anything on the > system, I went to /usr/src and (as root) did a "make buildworld". I > was quite distressed to find that it failed, as: > > ... > cc -O -pipe -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H > -DPREFIX=\"/usr/obj/usr/sr > c/i386/usr\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_to ols > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_tools > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/ > ../../../../contrib/gcc > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gc > c/config -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp > -I. -I/u > sr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../c > ontrib/gcc/cp/method.c > cc -O -pipe -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H > -DPREFIX=\"/usr/obj/usr/sr > c/i386/usr\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_to ols > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_tools > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/ > ../../../../contrib/gcc > -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gc > c/config -I/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp > -I. -I/u > sr/obj/usr/src/i386/usr/include -c > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../c > ontrib/gcc/cp/pt.c > cc: Internal compiler error: program as got fatal signal 11 > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > *** Error code 1 > > Stop in /usr/src. > (SU) rdm@cfcl.com [/usr/src] 2: > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../cont > rib/gcc/cp/pt.c: In function `tsubst_expr_values': > /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../../../../contrib/gcc/cp/pt.c:9624: > output pip > e has been closed > > Is this a known problem, preferably with a known workaround? BTW, I have > a "script" listing from the build attempt, in case there is anything I need > to examine... > > -r > -- > -- > http://www.cfcl.com/rdm > email: rdm@cfcl.com > phone: +1 650-873-7841 > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 19:47:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zircon.seattle.wa.us (sense-sea-CovadSub-0-228.oz.net [216.39.147.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 59C5037B71B for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:47:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us) Received: (qmail 754 invoked by uid 1001); 7 Mar 2001 03:47:40 -0000 From: Joe Kelsey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15013.44892.573017.252535@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:47:40 -0800 To: Joe Kelsey Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 4.3-BETA #0: mergemaster problems In-Reply-To: <15013.39457.554494.259514@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> References: <15013.39457.554494.259514@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under Emacs 20.7.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Joe Kelsey writes: > I have been trying to update my system fro the last week or so. The > basic problem is that whenever I managed to catch a cvsup which did not > have pre-4.3 build errors, mergemaster consistently failed. OK, here is the clue from my mergemaster output: ===> monthly install -c -o root -g wheel -m 755 200.accounting 999.local /var/tmp/temproot/etc/periodic/monthly install -c -o root -g wheel -m 0644 /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/send-pr/categories /var/tmp/temproot/etc/gnats/freefall rm -f /var/tmp/temproot/etc/termcap ln -s /usr/share/misc/termcap /var/tmp/temproot/etc/termcap rm -f /var/tmp/temproot/etc/rmt ln -s /usr/sbin/rmt /var/tmp/temproot/etc/rmt make: don't know how to make distribution. Stop *** Error code 2 This shows that mergemaster was trying to execute `make distribution' in /usr/src/etc. Here is the relevant part of the /usr/src/etc Makefile: distribution: (cd ${.CURDIR}; \ ${INSTALL} -c -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m 644 ${BIN1} ${DESTDIR}/etc; \ ${INSTALL} -c -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m 755 ${BIN2} ${DESTDIR}/etc; \ ${INSTALL} -c -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m 644 defaults/rc.conf ${DESTDIR}/etc/defaults/; \ ${INSTALL} -c -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m 644 defaults/make.conf ${DESTDIR}/etc/defaults/; \ ${INSTALL} -c -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m 644 defaults/pccard.conf ${DESTDIR}/etc/defaults/; \ ${INSTALL} -c -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m 644 defaults/periodic.conf ${DESTDIR}/etc/defaults/; \ ${INSTALL} -c -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m 600 /dev/null \ ${DESTDIR}/var/log/cron; \ ${INSTALL} -c -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m 600 \ master.passwd ${DESTDIR}/etc; \ ( cd ${.CURDIR}/periodic; ${MAKE} install ); \ ( cd ${.CURDIR}/../gnu/usr.bin/send-pr; ${MAKE} etc-gnats-freefall ); \ ( cd ${.CURDIR}/../share/termcap; ${MAKE} etc-termcap ); \ ( cd ${.CURDIR}/../usr.sbin/rmt; ${MAKE} etc-rmt ); \ ( cd ${.CURDIR}/sendmail; ${MAKE} distribution ); \ ( cd ${.CURDIR}/isdn; ${MAKE} install ); \ pwd_mkdb -p -d ${DESTDIR}/etc ${DESTDIR}/etc/master.passwd; \ ${INSTALL} -c -o ${BINOWN} -g ${BINGRP} -m 555 \ MAKEDEV.local MAKEDEV ${DESTDIR}/dev ) After doing a `${MAKE} install' in periodic, the next place where `distribution' is made is in sendmail. However, a line from my /usr/sup/refuse script is *sendmail* meaning, that I never want sendmail to deposit anything on my system. I also have NO_SENDMAIL=true in /etc/make.conf. I believe that the distribution should check for NO_SENDMAIL and not run the sendmail command: .if !defined(NO_SENDMAIL) (cd ${DESTDIR}/sendmail; ${MAKE} distribution ); .endif I don't understand the need for continuation lines in the above excerpt, so someone who has more intimate knowledge of this will have to decide if you really need that long single command line. The problem is that I still have the old /usr/etc/sendmail directory hanging around from a time before I put the *sendmail* line in my refuse file. People who do not want sendmail should not be forced to take it. /Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 20: 0:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmls06.mediaone.net (chmls06.mediaone.net [24.147.1.144]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1B56437B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:00:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ira@moose.ne.mediaone.net) Received: from moose.ne.mediaone.net (moose.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.188.204]) by chmls06.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f2740MK17206 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:00:22 -0500 (EST) Received: (from ira@localhost) by moose.ne.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f2740G101247; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:00:16 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from ira) To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Boot lockup (Can't boot) / Sound trouble. From: ilcooper@mediaone.net (Ira L. Cooper) Date: 06 Mar 2001 22:59:40 -0500 Message-ID: <86y9uiqleb.fsf@moose.ne.mediaone.net> Lines: 263 X-Mailer: Gnus v5.7/Emacs 20.6 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I own a Sony VAIO C1XS, and, I'd last rebuilt world on 01/14/2001. When I built and installed world today, my machine would not boot with the bios set in non-PnP mode, it's locking up around the parallel port driver probe or mounting /. I've tried having different combos of ATA options, even backing out the last ATA commit so I know it is not that. Even when I get the machine booted in PnP mode, the sound driver, skips and does not work with XMMS, which was working on 01/14/2001. The boot is from the machine in PnP mode. I'd like to get it back to non-PnP mode, so I can use USB again. Here's the relivant info on the machine (Kernel config/dmesg). -Ira --- Kernel Config --- # # GENERIC -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386 # # For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on # Kernel Configuration Files: # # http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html # # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the # latest information. # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT. # # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/GENERIC,v 1.246.2.21 2001/01/12 23:45:14 scottl Exp $ machine i386 cpu I386_CPU cpu I486_CPU cpu I586_CPU cpu I686_CPU ident WIRETAP maxusers 64 makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support options MFS #Memory Filesystem options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device options NFS #Network Filesystem options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed #options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel #options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O device isa device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 # ATA and ATAPI devices #device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 #device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives #device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives #device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives #device atapist # ATAPI tape drives #options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices # SCSI Controllers device aic0 at isa? # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required) device da # Direct Access (disks) device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) device cd # CD device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? #options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Power management support (see LINT for more options) device apm0 at nexus? flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support device card device pcic0 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 device pcic1 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable # Serial (COM) ports device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5 device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device plip # TCP/IP over parallel device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da # ISA Ethernet NICs. device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 device ep # WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really # exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attatement needed # and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard code. device wi # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration below will # work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA PnP # mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA # card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must specify # those paremeters here. device an # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated. pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) pseudo-device md # Memory "disks" pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter # USB support device pcm device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device usb # USB Bus (required) device ugen # Generic device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" device ukbd # Keyboard device ulpt # Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse device uscanner # Scanners --- end of kernel --- --- start of dmesg --- Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #1: Tue Mar 6 16:29:36 EST 2001 root@:/usr/obj/usr/home/ira/4.X-STABLE/src/sys/WIRETAP Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (397.00-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x66d Stepping = 13 Features=0x183f9ff real memory = 134152192 (131008K bytes) avail memory = 126857216 (123884K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc03a4000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk apm0: on motherboard apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2 npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 0.0 irq 9 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xfcf0-0xfcff at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xfcc0-0xfcdf at device 7.2 on pci0 uhci0: Invalid irq 255 uhci0: Please switch on USB support and switch PNP-OS to 'No' in BIOS device_probe_and_attach: uhci0 attach returned 6 chip1: port 0x1040-0x104f at device 7.3 on pci0 pci0: (vendor=0x104d, dev=0x8039) at 8.0 pcm0: mem 0xfedf0000-0xfedf7fff irq 9 at device 9.0 on pci0 pci0: (vendor=0x136b, dev=0xff01) at 10.0 pci0: (vendor=0x14f1, dev=0x1036) at 11.0 irq 9 pcic-pci0: at device 12.0 on pci0 fdc0: direction bit not set fdc0: cmd 3 failed at out byte 1 of 3 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model Generic PS/2 mouse, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> pcic0: at port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 on isa0 pcic0: Polling mode pccard0: on pcic0 sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 8250 sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 ppc0: parallel port not found. ad0: 11513MB [23392/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a pccard: card inserted, slot 0 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 20: 1: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C3AA37B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:01:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gshapiro@gshapiro.net) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.0.Beta3/8.12.0.Beta3) id f27413Y0020888; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:01:03 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15013.45695.227099.406267@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:01:03 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Joe Kelsey Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.3-BETA #0: mergemaster problems In-Reply-To: <15013.44892.573017.252535@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> References: <15013.39457.554494.259514@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> <15013.44892.573017.252535@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.2 (beta42) "Poseidon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG joe> After doing a `${MAKE} install' in periodic, the next place where joe> `distribution' is made is in sendmail. However, a line from my joe> /usr/sup/refuse script is joe> *sendmail* joe> meaning, that I never want sendmail to deposit anything on my system. I joe> also have joe> NO_SENDMAIL=true joe> in /etc/make.conf. I believe that the distribution should check for joe> NO_SENDMAIL and not run the sendmail command: joe> .if !defined(NO_SENDMAIL) joe> (cd ${DESTDIR}/sendmail; ${MAKE} distribution ); joe> .endif That's exactly what it does. Check: http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/etc/Makefile?rev=RELENG_4 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 20: 8:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from zircon.seattle.wa.us (sense-sea-CovadSub-0-228.oz.net [216.39.147.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CED2037B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:08:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us) Received: (qmail 2149 invoked by uid 1001); 7 Mar 2001 04:08:28 -0000 From: Joe Kelsey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15013.46139.980282.438748@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:08:27 -0800 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.3-BETA #0: mergemaster problems In-Reply-To: <15013.45695.227099.406267@horsey.gshapiro.net> References: <15013.39457.554494.259514@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> <15013.44892.573017.252535@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> <15013.45695.227099.406267@horsey.gshapiro.net> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under Emacs 20.7.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gregory Neil Shapiro writes: > > That's exactly what it does. Check: > > http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/etc/Makefile?rev=RELENG_4 Of course, that was only just committed *today*! I've been having the problem for over a week! So I got tripped up by a post-freeze commit... I will now just wait for the official 4.3-RELEASE before doing anymore cvsup. I just wanted a snapshot to work, and I can have that by installing my own change locally for now. /Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 20:35:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29BAD37B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 20:35:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp (fcage [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f274Yug42094; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:34:57 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20010306233020.01dc00e0@marble.sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@marble.sentex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2001 23:34:55 -0500 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Mike Tancsa Subject: VLANs and STABLE fxp patch Cc: dg@root.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is there any chance of getting http://www.euitt.upm.es/~pjlobo/fbsdvlan.html committed to FreeBSD in the future ? I have been using it with great results. ie. *** sys/pci/if_fxp.c.orig Tue Oct 24 23:47:36 2000 --- sys/pci/if_fxp.c Tue Dec 5 12:40:37 2000 *************** *** 34,39 **** --- 34,42 ---- * Intel EtherExpress Pro/100B PCI Fast Ethernet driver */ + #if !defined(KLD_MODULE) + #include "vlan.h" + #endif #include #include #include *************** *** 87,92 **** --- 90,96 ---- #include #include + #include #include /* for vtophys */ #include /* for vtophys */ *************** *** 547,552 **** --- 551,563 ---- callout_handle_init(&sc->stat_ch); + /* + * According to the 82558 datasheet, the minimum RevID is 5, but + * the OpenBSD code recognizes RevID 4 also as 82558. RevID 3 or + * lower is guaranteed to be an 82557. 82559 starts at RevID 8. + */ + sc->not_82557 = pci_get_revid(dev) >= 4 ? 1 : 0; + s = splimp(); /* *************** *** 600,606 **** goto fail; } ! device_printf(dev, "Ethernet address %6D%s\n", sc->arpcom.ac_enaddr, ":", sc->phy_10Mbps_only ? ", 10Mbps" : ""); ifp = &sc->arpcom.ac_if; --- 611,618 ---- goto fail; } ! device_printf(dev, "RevID 0x%02x, Ethernet address %6D%s\n", ! pci_get_revid(dev), sc->arpcom.ac_enaddr, ":", sc->phy_10Mbps_only ? ", 10Mbps" : ""); ifp = &sc->arpcom.ac_if; *************** *** 620,625 **** --- 632,648 ---- */ ether_ifattach(ifp, ETHER_BPF_SUPPORTED); /* + * Tell the upper layer(s) wether we support long frames (mainly + * for VLANs). + */ + #if NVLAN > 0 + ifp->if_data.ifi_hdrlen = sizeof(struct ether_vlan_header); + #else + if (sc->not_82557) { + ifp->if_data.ifi_hdrlen = sizeof(struct ether_vlan_header); + } + #endif + /* * Let the system queue as many packets as we have available * TX descriptors. */ *************** *** 1278,1283 **** --- 1301,1320 ---- m_freem(m); goto rcvloop; } + /* + * Drop the packet if it has CRC + * errors. + * + * This test is only needed when using + * 802.1Q VLANs in 82557 cards, but we + * would spend the same time testing + * wether we must perform the test + * as doing the test itself. + */ + if (rfa->rfa_status & FXP_RFA_STATUS_CRC) { + m_freem(m); + goto rcvloop; + } m->m_pkthdr.rcvif = ifp; m->m_pkthdr.len = m->m_len = total_len; eh = mtod(m, struct ether_header *); *************** *** 1558,1564 **** --- 1595,1605 ---- cbp->late_scb = 0; /* (don't) defer SCB update */ cbp->tno_int = 0; /* (disable) tx not okay interrupt */ cbp->ci_int = 1; /* interrupt on CU idle */ + #if NVLAN > 0 + cbp->save_bf = sc->not_82557 ? prm : 1; /* save bad frames */ + #else /* NVLAN > 0 */ cbp->save_bf = prm; /* save bad frames */ + #endif /* NVLAN > 0 */ cbp->disc_short_rx = !prm; /* discard short packets */ cbp->underrun_retry = 1; /* retry mode (1) on DMA underrun */ cbp->mediatype = !sc->phy_10Mbps_only; /* interface mode */ *************** *** 1574,1579 **** --- 1615,1621 ---- cbp->stripping = !prm; /* truncate rx packet to byte count */ cbp->padding = 1; /* (do) pad short tx packets */ cbp->rcv_crc_xfer = 0; /* (don't) xfer CRC to host */ + cbp->long_rx = sc->not_82557; /* (enable) long packets */ cbp->force_fdx = 0; /* (don't) force full duplex */ cbp->fdx_pin_en = 1; /* (enable) FDX# pin */ cbp->multi_ia = 0; /* (don't) accept multiple IAs */ *** sys/pci/if_fxpvar.h.orig Tue Nov 21 11:10:53 2000 --- sys/pci/if_fxpvar.h Tue Nov 21 12:05:55 2000 *************** *** 68,73 **** --- 68,74 ---- int phy_primary_device; /* device type of primary PHY */ int phy_10Mbps_only; /* PHY is 10Mbps-only device */ int eeprom_size; /* size of serial EEPROM */ + int not_82557; /* yes if we are 82558/82559 */ int suspended; /* 0 = normal 1 = suspended (APM) */ u_int32_t saved_maps[5]; /* pci data */ u_int32_t saved_biosaddr; *** sys/pci/if_fxpreg.h.orig Thu Oct 5 11:55:04 2000 --- sys/pci/if_fxpreg.h Tue Nov 21 12:09:22 2000 *************** *** 162,168 **** volatile u_int stripping:1, padding:1, rcv_crc_xfer:1, ! :5; volatile u_int :6, force_fdx:1, fdx_pin_en:1; --- 162,169 ---- volatile u_int stripping:1, padding:1, rcv_crc_xfer:1, ! long_rx:1, /* 82558/82559 */ ! :4; volatile u_int :6, force_fdx:1, fdx_pin_en:1; -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 21: 1:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klapaucius.zer0.org (klapaucius.zer0.org [204.152.186.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 627D337B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:01:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gsutter@zer0.org) Received: by klapaucius.zer0.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 42090239A53; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:01:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:01:09 -0800 From: Gregory Sutter To: Andy Farkas Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Typo in GENERIC Message-ID: <20010306210109.I45600@klapaucius.zer0.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from andyf@speednet.com.au on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 01:59:49PM +1100 Organization: Zer0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-03-07 13:59 +1100, Andy Farkas wrote: > > Hardly Earth shattering material..... > > > diff -u GENERIC.orig GENERIC > --- GENERIC.orig Wed Mar 7 13:56:42 2001 > +++ GENERIC Wed Mar 7 13:57:02 2001 > @@ -192,7 +192,7 @@ > device ep > device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 > # WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really > -# exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attatement needed > +# exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attachment needed I found some other typos in there too. I'll commit it as soon as I have the permission of the release engineer. Thanks, Andy! Greg -- Gregory S. Sutter The process of scientific discovery mailto:gsutter@zer0.org is, in effect, a continual flight http://www.zer0.org/~gsutter/ from wonder. --Albert Einstein hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net/0x845DFEDD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 21:25:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cage.simianscience.com (cage.simianscience.com [64.7.134.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7A7D37B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 21:25:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Received: from chimp (fcage [192.168.0.2]) by cage.simianscience.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f275P1g42163; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:25:11 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mike@sentex.net) Message-Id: <4.2.2.20010307002421.01d63a70@marble.sentex.net> X-Sender: mdtancsa@marble.sentex.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Pro Version 4.2.2 Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 00:25:00 -0500 To: Don Lewis , All From: Mike Tancsa Subject: Re: ``broken pipe'' in 4.2-STABLE: pkg_add AND man! In-Reply-To: <200103070050.QAA10650@salsa.gv.tsc.tdk.com> References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010306093835.0378aaf0@marble.sentex.ca> <5.0.2.1.0.20010306093835.0378aaf0@marble.sentex.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 04:50 PM 3/6/2001 -0800, Don Lewis wrote: >On Mar 6, 9:39am, Mike Tancsa wrote: >} Subject: Re: ``broken pipe'' in 4.2-STABLE: pkg_add AND man! >} >} See the recent threads on this list >} Re: more strange problem with broken pipes and ssh >} >} ---Mike > >And the PR bin/24748. Any chance this will make it into 4.3R ? ---Mike -------------------------------------------------------------------- Mike Tancsa, tel +1 519 651 3400 Network Administration, mike@sentex.net Sentex Communications www.sentex.net Cambridge, Ontario Canada www.sentex.net/mike To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 22:20:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cfcl.com (cpe-24-221-169-54.ca.sprintbbd.net [24.221.169.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA0AE37B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:20:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdm@cfcl.com) Received: from [192.168.168.205] (cerberus [192.168.168.205]) by cfcl.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f276LFL25656 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:21:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdm@cfcl.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <004d01c0a6b7$6ad5db00$1000000a@dympna.com> References: <004d01c0a6b7$6ad5db00$1000000a@dympna.com> Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:08:03 -0800 To: From: Rich Morin Subject: Re: "make buildworld" fails on FreeBSD 4.2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks to all who replied. One note I got, off-list, sent me to a very informative web page: http://www.bitwizard.nl/sig11/ Anyway, I cleaned up the airflow in the chassis as well as I could, then tried another build. It crashed again, but in a (slightly) different location. This seems to indicate that the problem is, indeed, in the hardware. This machine's motherboard ("ASUS P5A Super 7") has some fancy BIOS that can monitor temperatures and such. Does anyone know whether (a) this information is available to the running system (b) there is a FreeBSD driver to access it Meanwhile, I'll start looking into finding the exact HW problem... -r -- -- http://www.cfcl.com/rdm email: rdm@cfcl.com phone: +1 650-873-7841 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 22:46:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.awyeah.net (awyeah-server.resnet.wisc.edu [146.151.136.235]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 634A237B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 22:46:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dave@awyeah.net) Received: from bum (witt136-111.resnet.wisc.edu [146.151.136.111]) by shell.awyeah.net (8.11.2/8.11.1) with SMTP id f276l9E18519 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:47:09 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dave@awyeah.net) From: "Dave" To: Subject: 4.3-BETA? Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:46:32 -0600 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG There is talk of a "4.3-BETA" branch - is this the RELENG_4_BP tag in the CVS repository? If not, where would I get this? - Dave To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 23: 1:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klapaucius.zer0.org (klapaucius.zer0.org [204.152.186.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11CA737B723 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:01:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gsutter@zer0.org) Received: by klapaucius.zer0.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id C0081239A54; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:01:06 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:01:06 -0800 From: Gregory Sutter To: Dave Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.3-BETA? Message-ID: <20010306230106.J45600@klapaucius.zer0.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from dave@awyeah.net on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 12:46:32AM -0600 Organization: Zer0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-03-07 00:46 -0600, Dave wrote: > There is talk of a "4.3-BETA" branch - is this the RELENG_4_BP tag in the > CVS repository? If not, where would I get this? The RELENG_4 branch is now called 4.3-BETA. If you cvsup to the latest sources and rebuild, your system will tell you its version is 4.3-BETA. Greg -- Gregory S. Sutter Black holes were created mailto:gsutter@zer0.org when God divided by zero. http://www.zer0.org/~gsutter/ hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net/0x845DFEDD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 23: 5:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de (jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de [132.176.7.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2A0937B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:05:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de) Received: from fernuni-hagen.de (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by jfh00.fernuni-hagen.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f2775pL01541; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:05:51 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de) Message-ID: <3AA5DDCF.10E915C6@fernuni-hagen.de> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 08:05:51 +0100 From: Fritz Heinrichmeyer Organization: FernUni in Hagen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: de, en, de-DE MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: /etc/services should have rsync entry References: <20010306230106.J45600@klapaucius.zer0.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, i recognized after an update that the rsync port is not mentioned in /etc/services -- Fritz Heinrichmeyer mailto:fritz.heinrichmeyer@fernuni-hagen.de FernUniversitaet Hagen, LG ES, 58084 Hagen (Germany) tel:+49 2331/987-1166 fax:987-355 http://www-es.fernuni-hagen.de/~jfh To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 23: 7:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klapaucius.zer0.org (klapaucius.zer0.org [204.152.186.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A93237B719 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:07:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gsutter@zer0.org) Received: by klapaucius.zer0.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 608D3239A53; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:07:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:07:13 -0800 From: Gregory Sutter To: Andy Farkas Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Typo in GENERIC Message-ID: <20010306230713.K45600@klapaucius.zer0.org> References: <20010306210109.I45600@klapaucius.zer0.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010306210109.I45600@klapaucius.zer0.org>; from gsutter@zer0.org on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 09:01:09PM -0800 Organization: Zer0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-03-06 21:01 -0800, Gregory Sutter wrote: > On 2001-03-07 13:59 +1100, Andy Farkas wrote: > > > > Hardly Earth shattering material..... > > > > > diff -u GENERIC.orig GENERIC > > --- GENERIC.orig Wed Mar 7 13:56:42 2001 > > +++ GENERIC Wed Mar 7 13:57:02 2001 > > @@ -192,7 +192,7 @@ > > device ep > > device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 > > # WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really > > -# exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attatement needed > > +# exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attachment needed > > I found some other typos in there too. I'll commit it as soon as > I have the permission of the release engineer. Thanks, Andy! Committed, thanks! Greg -- Gregory S. Sutter The measure of a man is the way mailto:gsutter@zer0.org he bears up under misfortune. http://www.zer0.org/~gsutter/ --Plutarch hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net/0x845DFEDD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 23:18:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cfcl.com (cpe-24-221-169-54.ca.sprintbbd.net [24.221.169.54]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD49637B718 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:18:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdm@cfcl.com) Received: from [192.168.168.205] (cerberus [192.168.168.205]) by cfcl.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f277JiL26734 for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:19:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdm@cfcl.com) Mime-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:15:27 -0800 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Rich Morin Subject: Temp and fan program Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ryan Snedegar pointed me to lmmon(8), in the Ports Collection. Quite a nifty little utility, but sadly, it does not report CPU temperature. If anyone has a pointer to the magic values to get at this through the /dev/io interface to the LM78/79 addresses, I would be most obliged. -r P.S. to Ryan - My email to you bounced (I elided your hostname, in case there is a privacy issue with giving it out publicly): ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors ----- (reason: 550 Access denied) ----- Transcript of session follows ----- ... while talking to mail.jellydonut.com.: >>> MAIL From: <<< 550 Access denied 554 5.0.0 ... Service unavailable -- -- http://www.cfcl.com/rdm email: rdm@cfcl.com phone: +1 650-873-7841 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 23:34:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ogh.nl (mail.mon3aan.nl [145.101.63.117]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4140F37B71A for ; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:34:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from baggah@baggah.yi.org) Received: from baggah.yi.org (root@ina-plugge-test1.saf.mon3aan.nl [172.16.26.139]) by mail.ogh.nl (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f277YUA23653 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:34:30 +0100 (CET) Received: (from baggah@localhost) by baggah.yi.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f26IQ9n61419; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:26:09 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from baggah) Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2001 19:26:09 +0100 From: Olgerik Albers To: simond@irrelevant.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with top in todays stable Message-ID: <20010306192609.B61390@baggah.yi.org> References: <20010306161215.A91244@irrelevant.org> <5.0.2.1.0.20010306111946.024357d0@marble.sentex.ca> <20010306163517.C91244@irrelevant.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010306163517.C91244@irrelevant.org>; from simond@irrelevant.org on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 04:35:17PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 04:35:17PM +0000, simond@irrelevant.org wrote: >d On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 11:20:55AM -0500, Mike Tancsa wrote: > > > > At 04:12 PM 3/6/01 +0000, simond@irrelevant.org wrote: > > >Despite having my kernel and world in sync (and trying rebuilting top > > >seperately), I always get "top: nlist failed" error message, this is from > > >a cvsup from a couple of hours ago, I haven't tried cvsuping again yet > > >mainly as I have to work on this machine too. > > > > > >Anyone know if this has been fixed? > > > > Are you sure you are using /boot/loader to boot your system ? > > I'm using a standard install of FreeBSD, non dedicated install and doing > the proper build process, top was working before the last buildworld, > buildkernel, installkernel, installworld, mergemaster I did. > And a (cd /dev/; ./MAKEDEV all) ??? maybe that will fix it? Bye Olgerik To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Tue Mar 6 23:59:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (www.golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A78B37B719; Tue, 6 Mar 2001 23:59:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id tpmaaaaa for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:58:49 +1100 Message-ID: <3AA5EAE0.C9CEF366@quake.com.au> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 19:01:36 +1100 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-stable , FreeBSD-questions Subject: Oh no... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hiyas... I kinda did a fdisk -BI on my main HDD by accident... It killed all my partitions... I tried to get them back with sysinstall and the live file system, but I cant mount them and stuff... Is there some way I can get my data back? I dont care so much about the file systems.. But there are some files I would *LOVE* to get back... Any pointers would be great... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 0: 7:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from spring.thepond.com (spring.thepond.com [209.122.157.220]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E56837B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:07:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bpeisenbraun@yahoo.com) Received: from localhost (drunk@localhost) by spring.thepond.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA20069; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 03:07:12 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bpeisenbraun@yahoo.com) X-Authentication-Warning: spring.thepond.com: drunk owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 03:07:12 -0500 (EST) From: Ben Eisenbraun X-X-Sender: To: Dave Cc: Subject: Re: 4.3-BETA? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-JZP-Disclaimer: "I'm the only one foolish enough to claim these opinions." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Dave wrote: > There is talk of a "4.3-BETA" branch - is this the RELENG_4_BP tag in the > CVS repository? If not, where would I get this? See: http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/admin.html#RELEASE-CANDIDATE for more info. -ben To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 0:27: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from nanguo.chalmers.com.au (gateway.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F3D37B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:27:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@chalmers.com.au) Received: from carbon (carbon.chalmers.com.au [203.1.96.26]) by nanguo.chalmers.com.au (8.11.0/8.11.0) with SMTP id f278NYL17282 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:23:34 +1000 (EST) From: "Robert" To: "stable" Subject: Is the BSDi CD of 4.2 STABLE or RELEASE ? Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:25:03 +1000 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The subject says it all? bob To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 0:27:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B674837B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:27:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f278UXb69728 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:30:33 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:30:33 +0100 (CET) From: "Hartmann, O." To: Subject: ARCH flag in new make.conf Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear Sirs. I'm really confused and surprised by the fact, that with the upcoming new FreeBSD 4.3 in its make.conf we can choose architectural parameters for the CPU architecture. And I will tell you why. Due the last two weeks, that was in fact in the time of FreebSD 4.2, but I think it doesn't matter, I compiled on three SMP system ( one 2x PII 350MHz, one 2x PIII 600MHz KATMAI, one 2x PIII 866MHz Coppermine) the whole stuff with the compiler option -march=i686 on both the kernel compilation option field and the system code optimization field. The result was a completely malfunctional NIS/YP system! I thank Mr. Jan Conrad from University of Bonn who spent more than three hours with me on telephon to checkout what's going wrong on FreeBSD because he used a functional NIS/YP installation - and at mine the cheapest, simplest configuration would work. I do not know exactly which compiler switches the new flag targets, either this for the source code or that for the kernel and I do not know which compiler option, either for kernel or the system, killed the NIS/YP functionality. Fact is - after removing on both optimization fields NIS/YP works well! I must confess that I never tried to compile kernel "pure', means without the option "-march=i686" when I ran into massif NIS/YP problems, so it could be simply an err of mine to compile both, system and kernel, with these options. What is the new option in make.conf doing? Involves it both kernel and system or only system code? Thanks, Oliver -- MfG O. Hartmann ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- IT-Administration des Institut fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 55099 Mainz Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinensaal) Tel: +496131/3924144 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 0:27:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shell.cybersmart.co.za (shell.cybersmart.co.za [196.15.138.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20F5937B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:27:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jacques@serenity.org.za) Received: from jacques by shell.cybersmart.co.za with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 14aZHv-000LJl-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:27:15 +0200 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:27:15 +0200 From: Jacques Marneweck To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Make world Broken Message-ID: <20010307102715.A81274@serenity.org.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, This what I'm getting where it breaks: ===> libdisk make: don't know how to make dkcksum.c. Stop The file dkcksum.c does not exist in the directory where libdisk. Regards --jm To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 0:33:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from blizzard.sabbo.net (ns.sabbo.net [193.193.218.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CF4F37B71D; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:33:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Received: from vic.sabbo.net (root@vic.sabbo.net [193.193.218.112]) by blizzard.sabbo.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f278XRa11976; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:33:28 +0200 Received: from FreeBSD.org (big_brother.vega.com [192.168.1.1]) by vic.sabbo.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f278XRG53599; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:33:27 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from sobomax@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: <3AA5F24F.C4317E83@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:33:20 +0200 From: Maxim Sobolev Organization: Vega International Capital X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: uk,ru,en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mark Murray Cc: current@FreeBSD.org, stable@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Can't build 5-current world on 4-stable box (perl doesn't bootstrap properly) References: <3AA4E580.8A59728C@FreeBSD.org> <200103062132.f26LWmR55566@gratis.grondar.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=koi8-r Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mark Murray wrote: > > I reported it about a month ago, but the problem still persists. 5-current > > buildworld can't be performed on reasonably recent 4-stable system, hence > > source upgrade path from -stable to -current is broken. Please fix. > > I just did this on 4-STABLE with no problems at all. Well, then I suspect that it incorrectly works with my non-standard OBJDIR and/or non-standard sources location (/usr/current/src). I'll investigate further and let you know then. -Maxim To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 0:38: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EEF37B71A for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 00:37:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id rqmaaaaa for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:37:05 +1100 Message-ID: <3AA5F3D9.782606A0@quake.com.au> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 19:39:53 +1100 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Robert Cc: stable Subject: Re: Is the BSDi CD of 4.2 STABLE or RELEASE ? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Robert wrote: > > The subject says it all? > > bob > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message CDs are always RELEASE's To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 1: 0:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4264837B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:00:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id DBE9666ED5; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:00:24 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:00:24 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Hartmann, O." Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf Message-ID: <20010307010024.A98154@mollari.cthul.hu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="wac7ysb48OaltWcw" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 09:30:33AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 09:30:33AM +0100, Hartmann, O. wrote: > Dear Sirs. >=20 > I'm really confused and surprised by the fact, that with the upcoming new > FreeBSD 4.3 in its make.conf we can choose architectural parameters for t= he > CPU architecture. And I will tell you why. >=20 > Due the last two weeks, that was in fact in the time of FreebSD 4.2, but > I think it doesn't matter, I compiled on three SMP system ( one 2x PII 35= 0MHz, > one 2x PIII 600MHz KATMAI, one 2x PIII 866MHz Coppermine) the whole stuff > with the compiler option -march=3Di686 on both the kernel compilation opt= ion > field and the system code optimization field. The result was a completely > malfunctional NIS/YP system! I thank Mr. Jan Conrad from University of Bo= nn > who spent more than three hours with me on telephon to checkout what's go= ing > wrong on FreeBSD because he used a functional NIS/YP installation - and a= t mine > the cheapest, simplest configuration would work. I do not know exactly wh= ich > compiler switches the new flag targets, either this for the source code o= r that > for the kernel and I do not know which compiler option, either for kernel= or the system, > killed the NIS/YP functionality. Fact is - after removing on both optimiz= ation > fields NIS/YP works well! I've been running NIS on FreeBSD with world and kernel compiled with -march=3Dpentiumpro for about 9 months with no ill effects. In fact I've never heard of reports of bad code generation using the -march settings -- it appears to be very stable. Are you sure you didn't have a nonstandard optimization setting (-O2, etc) as well? Kris --wac7ysb48OaltWcw Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pfioWry0BWjoQKURAu1tAKCnnPTt7PkB/W6ai5EiBR/T8rpKlgCfb+1L 3bpxU2Sc0XOrJMh9p1QgFfQ= =zL+K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --wac7ysb48OaltWcw-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 1: 1:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0F2337B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:01:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B687866ED5; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:01:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:01:16 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Jacques Marneweck Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Make world Broken Message-ID: <20010307010116.B98154@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <20010307102715.A81274@serenity.org.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Fba/0zbH8Xs+Fj9o" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010307102715.A81274@serenity.org.za>; from freebsd-stable-at-freebsd-org@serenity.org.za on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:27:15AM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --Fba/0zbH8Xs+Fj9o Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:27:15AM +0200, Jacques Marneweck wrote: > Hi all, >=20 > This what I'm getting where it breaks: >=20 > =3D=3D=3D> libdisk > make: don't know how to make dkcksum.c. Stop >=20 > The file dkcksum.c does not exist in the directory where libdisk. This was fixed about 3 days ago. Please update your sources when you run into a build problem before reporting it to the list, because most of them are fixed within hours of being introduces. Kris --Fba/0zbH8Xs+Fj9o Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pfjcWry0BWjoQKURApVGAJsEWxcqMhs9vTcrqZs7jd1o9ubs+gCeLVIW M9kDipf4WsRw5JqkUMAHKU0= =WeCS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Fba/0zbH8Xs+Fj9o-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 1:11:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailgate.abacus.co.uk (mailgate.abacus.co.uk [194.130.48.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2337A37B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:11:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from antony@abacus.co.uk) Received: from abacus.co.uk (pcantony.bl.abacus.co.uk [194.130.48.111]) by mailgate.abacus.co.uk (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA18411; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:09:30 GMT Message-ID: <3AA5FAD0.CCDB49C7@abacus.co.uk> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 09:09:36 +0000 From: Antony T Curtis Organization: Abacus Polar PLC (UK) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.1.1-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Kris Kennaway Cc: "Hartmann, O." , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf References: <20010307010024.A98154@mollari.cthul.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 09:30:33AM +0100, Hartmann, O. wrote: > > Dear Sirs. > > > > I'm really confused and surprised by the fact, that with the upcoming new > > FreeBSD 4.3 in its make.conf we can choose architectural parameters for the > > CPU architecture. And I will tell you why. > I've been running NIS on FreeBSD with world and kernel compiled with > -march=pentiumpro for about 9 months with no ill effects. In fact > I've never heard of reports of bad code generation using the -march > settings -- it appears to be very stable. Are you sure you didn't > have a nonstandard optimization setting (-O2, etc) as well? I have world compiled with -O2 with no ill effect (that I have noticed) but if I compile the kernel with -O2, it looks okay but has problems with talking TCP/IP - seems to generate faulty checksums and some other quirks.... To put it simply, stable kernels are only with -O (in my experience) (however, I have compiled KLDs with -O2 with no ill effect) -- ANTONY T CURTIS Tel: +44 (1635) 36222 Abacus Polar Holdings Ltd Fax: +44 (1635) 38670 > Endless Loop: n., see Loop, Endless. > Loop, Endless: n., see Endless Loop. >  -- Random Shack Data Processing Dictionary To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 1:11:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED0CC37B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:11:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f279Epb92516; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:14:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:14:51 +0100 (CET) From: "Hartmann, O." To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf In-Reply-To: <20010307010024.A98154@mollari.cthul.hu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote: Dear Kris. I asure you: the only flag was -march=i686 and -O on both kernel and system code flags. The phenomenon was that a local ypbind couldn't contact the local or any remote ypserver and it disappeared exactly then when removing the i686 option (and not changing anything else!). Well, I tried nearly everything for about one week and only removing this flag helped. I will do this again, maybe it was a phenomenon on "moving" code from 4.2 to 4.3? I do not know ... I would only mention this here because it pushed me in trouble nobody could help me for the past days. Thank you for responding. :>On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 09:30:33AM +0100, Hartmann, O. wrote: :>> Dear Sirs. :>> :>> I'm really confused and surprised by the fact, that with the upcoming new :>> FreeBSD 4.3 in its make.conf we can choose architectural parameters for the :>> CPU architecture. And I will tell you why. :>> :>> Due the last two weeks, that was in fact in the time of FreebSD 4.2, but :>> I think it doesn't matter, I compiled on three SMP system ( one 2x PII 350MHz, :>> one 2x PIII 600MHz KATMAI, one 2x PIII 866MHz Coppermine) the whole stuff :>> with the compiler option -march=i686 on both the kernel compilation option :>> field and the system code optimization field. The result was a completely :>> malfunctional NIS/YP system! I thank Mr. Jan Conrad from University of Bonn :>> who spent more than three hours with me on telephon to checkout what's going :>> wrong on FreeBSD because he used a functional NIS/YP installation - and at mine :>> the cheapest, simplest configuration would work. I do not know exactly which :>> compiler switches the new flag targets, either this for the source code or that :>> for the kernel and I do not know which compiler option, either for kernel or the system, :>> killed the NIS/YP functionality. Fact is - after removing on both optimization :>> fields NIS/YP works well! :> :>I've been running NIS on FreeBSD with world and kernel compiled with :>-march=pentiumpro for about 9 months with no ill effects. In fact :>I've never heard of reports of bad code generation using the -march :>settings -- it appears to be very stable. Are you sure you didn't :>have a nonstandard optimization setting (-O2, etc) as well? :> :>Kris :> -- MfG O. Hartmann ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- IT-Administration des Institut fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 55099 Mainz Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinensaal) Tel: +496131/3924144 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 1:12:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EF6637B71A for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:12:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f279G4b96767; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:16:04 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:16:04 +0100 (CET) From: "Hartmann, O." To: Antony T Curtis Cc: Kris Kennaway , Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf In-Reply-To: <3AA5FAD0.CCDB49C7@abacus.co.uk> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Antony T Curtis wrote: :>Kris Kennaway wrote: :>> :>> On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 09:30:33AM +0100, Hartmann, O. wrote: :>> > Dear Sirs. :>> > :>> > I'm really confused and surprised by the fact, that with the upcoming new :>> > FreeBSD 4.3 in its make.conf we can choose architectural parameters for the :>> > CPU architecture. And I will tell you why. :> :> :> :>> I've been running NIS on FreeBSD with world and kernel compiled with :>> -march=pentiumpro for about 9 months with no ill effects. In fact :>> I've never heard of reports of bad code generation using the -march :>> settings -- it appears to be very stable. Are you sure you didn't :>> have a nonstandard optimization setting (-O2, etc) as well? :> :>I have world compiled with -O2 with no ill effect (that I have noticed) :>but if I compile the kernel with -O2, it looks okay but has problems :>with talking TCP/IP - seems to generate faulty checksums and some other :>quirks.... To put it simply, stable kernels are only with -O (in my :>experience) :> :>(however, I have compiled KLDs with -O2 with no ill effect) :> :>-- :>ANTONY T CURTIS Tel: +44 (1635) 36222 :>Abacus Polar Holdings Ltd Fax: +44 (1635) 38670 :>> Endless Loop: n., see Loop, Endless. :>> Loop, Endless: n., see Endless Loop. :>>  -- Random Shack Data Processing Dictionary :> As I said before in the list: kernel and other code were compiled with -O, not -O2. -- MfG O. Hartmann ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- IT-Administration des Institut fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 55099 Mainz Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinensaal) Tel: +496131/3924144 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 1:14:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 950F237B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:14:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C643666ED5; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:14:46 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:14:46 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Antony T Curtis Cc: Kris Kennaway , "Hartmann, O." , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf Message-ID: <20010307011446.A8574@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <20010307010024.A98154@mollari.cthul.hu> <3AA5FAD0.CCDB49C7@abacus.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AA5FAD0.CCDB49C7@abacus.co.uk>; from antony@abacus.co.uk on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 09:09:36AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 09:09:36AM +0000, Antony T Curtis wrote: > Kris Kennaway wrote: > >=20 > > On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 09:30:33AM +0100, Hartmann, O. wrote: > > > Dear Sirs. > > > > > > I'm really confused and surprised by the fact, that with the upcoming= new > > > FreeBSD 4.3 in its make.conf we can choose architectural parameters f= or the > > > CPU architecture. And I will tell you why. >=20 > >=20 > > I've been running NIS on FreeBSD with world and kernel compiled with > > -march=3Dpentiumpro for about 9 months with no ill effects. In fact > > I've never heard of reports of bad code generation using the -march > > settings -- it appears to be very stable. Are you sure you didn't > > have a nonstandard optimization setting (-O2, etc) as well? >=20 > I have world compiled with -O2 with no ill effect (that I have noticed) > but if I compile the kernel with -O2, it looks okay but has problems > with talking TCP/IP - seems to generate faulty checksums and some other > quirks.... To put it simply, stable kernels are only with -O (in my > experience) >=20 > (however, I have compiled KLDs with -O2 with no ill effect) Yes, this is well known (and documented in /etc/make.conf). I've *never* heard failure reports associated with using an -march option, nor seen any myself (all my systems run with -march=3D and have never shown failures; contrasted with -O2 which inevitably causes problems each time I'm tempted to try it) I think Jordan's commit to /etc/make.conf warning people off of using CPUTYPE was premature. Kris --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pfwGWry0BWjoQKURAgBxAKDdHo/qEm8nlIS0XuNQQ9BnTwWDLgCgmBl/ s13/W+NWR0g4FIrpVk+og3I= =rW8l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --d6Gm4EdcadzBjdND-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 1:19:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C24537B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:19:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Received: from klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE (klima.Physik.Uni-Mainz.DE [134.93.180.162]) by klima.physik.uni-mainz.de (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f279N6b19144; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:23:06 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:23:06 +0100 (CET) From: "Hartmann, O." To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Antony T Curtis , Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf In-Reply-To: <20010307011446.A8574@mollari.cthul.hu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote: Is this also true for SMP systems? :>On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 09:09:36AM +0000, Antony T Curtis wrote: :>> Kris Kennaway wrote: :>> > :>> > On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 09:30:33AM +0100, Hartmann, O. wrote: :>> > > Dear Sirs. :>> > > :>> > > I'm really confused and surprised by the fact, that with the upcoming new :>> > > FreeBSD 4.3 in its make.conf we can choose architectural parameters for the :>> > > CPU architecture. And I will tell you why. :>> :>> :>> :>> > I've been running NIS on FreeBSD with world and kernel compiled with :>> > -march=pentiumpro for about 9 months with no ill effects. In fact :>> > I've never heard of reports of bad code generation using the -march :>> > settings -- it appears to be very stable. Are you sure you didn't :>> > have a nonstandard optimization setting (-O2, etc) as well? :>> :>> I have world compiled with -O2 with no ill effect (that I have noticed) :>> but if I compile the kernel with -O2, it looks okay but has problems :>> with talking TCP/IP - seems to generate faulty checksums and some other :>> quirks.... To put it simply, stable kernels are only with -O (in my :>> experience) :>> :>> (however, I have compiled KLDs with -O2 with no ill effect) :> :>Yes, this is well known (and documented in /etc/make.conf). I've :>*never* heard failure reports associated with using an -march option, :>nor seen any myself (all my systems run with -march= and :>have never shown failures; contrasted with -O2 which inevitably causes :>problems each time I'm tempted to try it) :> :>I think Jordan's commit to /etc/make.conf warning people off of using :>CPUTYPE was premature. :> :>Kris :> -- MfG O. Hartmann ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de ---------------------------------------------------------------- IT-Administration des Institut fuer Physik der Atmosphaere (IPA) ---------------------------------------------------------------- Johannes Gutenberg Universitaet Mainz Becherweg 21 55099 Mainz Tel: +496131/3924662 (Maschinensaal) Tel: +496131/3924144 FAX: +496131/3923532 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 1:24:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA5A237B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:24:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id AD3D366ED5; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:24:54 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:24:54 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Hartmann, O." Cc: Antony T Curtis , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf Message-ID: <20010307012454.A14664@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <20010307011446.A8574@mollari.cthul.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:23:06AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:23:06AM +0100, Hartmann, O. wrote: > On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote: >=20 > Is this also true for SMP systems? SMP systems use C code like non-SMP systems; I wouldn't expect -march to generically make a difference there (i.e. it should be no different than non-SMP systems, modulo a specific gcc bug triggered by the SMP code). However, I'm certain that lots of people use -march on SMP systems with no ill effects, too. Kris --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pf5mWry0BWjoQKURApi2AJ42GCaqUyGZ2HeRfBevU51/2klYAQCgw0H1 luk6oKVwS93oswAFXdztnRU= =PVp3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 1:32:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-1242.charter-stl.com [24.217.116.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C53E37B719; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:32:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 72675A8B1; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 03:32:09 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 03:32:09 -0600 From: Andrew Hesford To: Kal Torak Cc: FreeBSD-stable , FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: Oh no... Message-ID: <20010307033209.A16010@cec.wustl.edu> References: <3AA5EAE0.C9CEF366@quake.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AA5EAE0.C9CEF366@quake.com.au>; from kaltorak@quake.com.au on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 07:01:36PM +1100 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Of course, this won't help you now, but it serves as a clever warning. Regardless of your backup procedure, it is always wise to make a backup copy of your boot sector. In fact, as well as on another disk, I believe you can store a copy on the disk in question itself. Between the MBR and the first partition, there is a section of null space. If it is big enough, one can use careful math to place a copy of the bootsector in the gap. A few seconds with dd and you would have a working system right now. :) Sorry, and good luck. On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 07:01:36PM +1100, Kal Torak wrote: > Hiyas... > > I kinda did a fdisk -BI on my main HDD by accident... It killed > all my partitions... I tried to get them back with sysinstall and > the live file system, but I cant mount them and stuff... > > Is there some way I can get my data back? I dont care so much about > the file systems.. But there are some files I would *LOVE* to get > back... > > Any pointers would be great... > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 1:35:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F06437B71A for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:35:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f279YdH19247; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:34:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010307013439I.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 01:34:39 -0800 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 37 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: "Hartmann, O." Subject: ARCH flag in new make.conf Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:30:33 +0100 (CET) > I'm really confused and surprised by the fact, that with the upcoming new > FreeBSD 4.3 in its make.conf we can choose architectural parameters for the > CPU architecture. And I will tell you why. It's not supposed to be set by the "general public" and failing to note this was an error, thanks. I've just committed the following patch: +# $FreeBSD: src/etc/defaults/make.conf,v 1.97.2.38 2001/03/07 08:39:29 jkh Exp $ # # NOTE: Please would any committer updating this file also update the # make.conf(5) manual page, if necessary, which is located in @@ -25,6 +25,16 @@ # (AMD CPUs) k7 k6-2 k6 k5 # (Intel CPUs) p4 p3 p2 i686 i586/mmx i586 i486 i386 # Alpha/AXP architecture: ev6 pca56 ev56 ev5 ev45 ev4 +# +# WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! +# +# It should also be noted that YOU SHOULD NOT SET CPUTYPE TO ANYTHING +# unless you're absolutely 100% sure you know what you are doing! Some +# things are known to break with -march=i686, for example, and simply +# building the world and kernel with CPUTYPE set to something other than +# the default (i386) is currently guaranteed to hurt you. You should +# build things very selectively with CPUTYPE set and proceed only if they +# still appear to work. # #CPUTYPE=i686 #NO_CPU_CFLAGS= true # Don't add -march= to CFLAGS automatically I hope that this will prevent others from following (falling?) in your footsteps. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 1:35:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.unixathome.org (ns1.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AE3437B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:35:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.int.nz.freebsd.org [192.168.0.99]) by ns1.unixathome.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f279ZXI62054 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:35:33 +1300 (NZDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Message-Id: <200103070935.f279ZXI62054@ns1.unixathome.org> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: novice in training To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:35:33 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: How's the latest snaphot? Reply-To: dan@langille.org X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Tomorrow I'm going to install a stable snaphot on a client's box. I've seen some issues lately in the list. All of which seem to have been resolved lately. I'm wondering if I should be going for 4.2-20010306- STABLE or 4.2-20010303-STABLE. Any suggestions? -- Dan Langille pgpkey - finger dan@unixathome.org | http://unixathome.org/finger.php got any work? I'm looking for some. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 1:41:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF79637B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:41:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id A12E366E1B; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:41:39 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:41:39 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf Message-ID: <20010307014139.A27133@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <20010307013439I.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010307013439I.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@osd.bsdi.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 01:34:39AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 01:34:39AM -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > From: "Hartmann, O." > Subject: ARCH flag in new make.conf > Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:30:33 +0100 (CET) >=20 > > I'm really confused and surprised by the fact, that with the upcoming n= ew > > FreeBSD 4.3 in its make.conf we can choose architectural parameters for= the > > CPU architecture. And I will tell you why. >=20 > It's not supposed to be set by the "general public" and failing to > note this was an error, thanks. I've just committed the following patch: No, I think you're overreacting significantly here -- there just isn't a large amount of evidence showing that -march=3D<...> produces bad code, and this is the first suggestion I've heard that it does so. In fact, David O'Brien has been very supportive of the CPUTYPE code so far, and he should know better than anyone which gcc optimizations are dangerous on FreeBSD (e.g. he was the one who added the nasty warnings for -O2 under alpha. Kris --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pgJSWry0BWjoQKURAox6AJ9rS62bSIzjIDaTevpmTgg5Nlli9QCeOvza WdM+ZNJdlWq7UYI/jpAtu9k= =/WFV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --45Z9DzgjV8m4Oswq-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 1:42: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48C9337B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:41:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f279dgw30360; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:39:42 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stijn) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:39:42 +0100 From: Stijn Hoop To: Dan Langille Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: How's the latest snaphot? Message-ID: <20010307103942.B14261@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> References: <200103070935.f279ZXI62054@ns1.unixathome.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103070935.f279ZXI62054@ns1.unixathome.org>; from dan@langille.org on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:35:33PM +1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:35:33PM +1300, Dan Langille wrote: > Tomorrow I'm going to install a stable snaphot on a client's box. I've > seen some issues lately in the list. All of which seem to have been > resolved lately. I'm wondering if I should be going for 4.2-20010306- > STABLE or 4.2-20010303-STABLE. I'm running 4.3-20010306-BETA successfully, with the CPUTYPE optimizations. HTH, --Stijn -- Nostalgia ain't what it used to be. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 1:44:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D9A937B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:44:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f279hNH19313; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:43:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: kris@obsecurity.org Cc: ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de, antony@abacus.co.uk, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf In-Reply-To: <20010307012454.A14664@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <20010307011446.A8574@mollari.cthul.hu> <20010307012454.A14664@mollari.cthul.hu> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010307014323M.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 01:43:23 -0800 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 11 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I think the point is that you can be no more certain that Mr. Hartman's problems were *not* caused by setting the -march flag to i686 than I can be absolutely certain that they were. Given no better than 50/50 certainty, however, the warning appeared prudent given that we're unlikely to know with anything substantially better than 50/50 on release day and the penalty for being "wrong" is fairly high, whereas the penalty for being "right" is no worse than a gratuitous warning which scares a few people away from an option which wouldn't have saved them anything truly substantial in any case. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 1:45:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bumper.jellybaby.net (bumper.jellybaby.net [194.159.247.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 18D7837B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:45:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simond@bumper.jellybaby.net) Received: (from simond@localhost) by bumper.jellybaby.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) id JAA31214; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:44:47 GMT (envelope-from simond) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:44:46 +0000 From: simond@irrelevant.org To: Olgerik Albers Cc: simond@irrelevant.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with top in todays stable Message-ID: <20010307094446.A30608@irrelevant.org> References: <20010306161215.A91244@irrelevant.org> <5.0.2.1.0.20010306111946.024357d0@marble.sentex.ca> <20010306163517.C91244@irrelevant.org> <20010306192609.B61390@baggah.yi.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010306192609.B61390@baggah.yi.org>; from o.albers@mon3aan.nl on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 07:26:09PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 07:26:09PM +0100, Olgerik Albers wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 04:35:17PM +0000, simond@irrelevant.org wrote: > >d On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 11:20:55AM -0500, Mike Tancsa wrote: > > > > > > At 04:12 PM 3/6/01 +0000, simond@irrelevant.org wrote: > > > >Despite having my kernel and world in sync (and trying rebuilting top > > > >seperately), I always get "top: nlist failed" error message, this is from > > > >a cvsup from a couple of hours ago, I haven't tried cvsuping again yet > > > >mainly as I have to work on this machine too. > > > > > > > >Anyone know if this has been fixed? > > > > > > Are you sure you are using /boot/loader to boot your system ? > > > > I'm using a standard install of FreeBSD, non dedicated install and doing > > the proper build process, top was working before the last buildworld, > > buildkernel, installkernel, installworld, mergemaster I did. > > > And a (cd /dev/; ./MAKEDEV all) ??? > maybe that will fix it? That was a nice new feature I just saw in mergemaster, it did it for me after asking :) -- Simon Dick simond@irrelevant.org "Why do I get this urge to go bowling everytime I see Tux?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 1:50:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A89237B723 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:50:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 1D68466ED9; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:50:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:50:37 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: kris@obsecurity.org, ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de, antony@abacus.co.uk, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf Message-ID: <20010307015036.A36721@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <20010307011446.A8574@mollari.cthul.hu> <20010307012454.A14664@mollari.cthul.hu> <20010307014323M.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010307014323M.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@osd.bsdi.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 01:43:23AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 01:43:23AM -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > I think the point is that you can be no more certain that > Mr. Hartman's problems were *not* caused by setting the -march flag to > i686 than I can be absolutely certain that they were. Given no better > than 50/50 certainty, however, the warning appeared prudent given that > we're unlikely to know with anything substantially better than 50/50 > on release day and the penalty for being "wrong" is fairly high, > whereas the penalty for being "right" is no worse than a gratuitous > warning which scares a few people away from an option which wouldn't > have saved them anything truly substantial in any case. I can be confident it is not a dangerous option, having never seen code failure caused by it desipite extensive use for a long time. This is not the case with optimizations generally accepted to be dangerous (like -O2) from which I have seen many failures from on my own systems. Given the number of people who use -march with no ill effects the 50/50 estimate is not very accurate. Kris --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pgRsWry0BWjoQKURAuSsAKCKlr+Zum6afhmK9OHU86cYsTTszwCeJBur TlMNKUVvFwM9ClM5ooBAq8U= =mne4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --lrZ03NoBR/3+SXJZ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 2: 6: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA69B37B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:05:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f27A50H19451; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:05:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: kris@obsecurity.org Cc: ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de, antony@abacus.co.uk, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf In-Reply-To: <20010307015036.A36721@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <20010307012454.A14664@mollari.cthul.hu> <20010307014323M.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010307015036.A36721@mollari.cthul.hu> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010307020500X.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 02:05:00 -0800 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 28 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:50:37 -0800 > I can be confident it is not a dangerous option, having never seen > code failure caused by it desipite extensive use for a long time. Well, first off you're not even setting it to the same value he was. :) > This is not the case with optimizations generally accepted to be > dangerous (like -O2) from which I have seen many failures from on my Grrr. Please stop raising -O2 - it's a total red herring and I've never implied any kind of causual link between the overall optimization level and the architecture specific optimizations. :( I don't know why everybody keeps bringing it up like it was garlic for warding off vampires or something. > own systems. Given the number of people who use -march with no ill > effects the 50/50 estimate is not very accurate. Ahem, do we actually know that number? I can't help but feel like we're both swinging in the dark here, the only difference being that I'm arguing about avoiding a serious failure and you're arguing about avoiding a serious warning. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 2:37:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9382837B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:37:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwmalone@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 7 Mar 2001 10:37:23 +0000 (GMT) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:37:22 +0000 From: David Malone To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Jordan Hubbard , ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf Message-ID: <20010307103722.A12299@walton.maths.tcd.ie> References: <20010307013439I.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010307014139.A27133@mollari.cthul.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010307014139.A27133@mollari.cthul.hu>; from kris@obsecurity.org on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 01:41:39AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 01:41:39AM -0800, Kris Kennaway wrote: > No, I think you're overreacting significantly here -- there just isn't > a large amount of evidence showing that -march=<...> produces bad > code, and this is the first suggestion I've heard that it does so. In > fact, David O'Brien has been very supportive of the CPUTYPE code so > far, and he should know better than anyone which gcc optimizations are > dangerous on FreeBSD (e.g. he was the one who added the nasty warnings > for -O2 under alpha. I've seen gcc miscompile some code of mine, only when given -march=k6, it worked OK with -march=pentiumpro. Mind you, this may have been more than six months ago and may have been with -O2 or higher. There did seem to be a problem specific or triggered by -march though. David. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 2:45: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68BBB37B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:44:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 3A55466E1B; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:44:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:44:56 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: kris@obsecurity.org, ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de, antony@abacus.co.uk, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf Message-ID: <20010307024456.A37349@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <20010307012454.A14664@mollari.cthul.hu> <20010307014323M.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010307015036.A36721@mollari.cthul.hu> <20010307020500X.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="opJtzjQTFsWo+cga" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010307020500X.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@osd.bsdi.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 02:05:00AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 02:05:00AM -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > From: Kris Kennaway > Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf > Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 01:50:37 -0800 >=20 > > I can be confident it is not a dangerous option, having never seen > > code failure caused by it desipite extensive use for a long time. >=20 > Well, first off you're not even setting it to the same value he > was. :) Yes I am: While picking a specific CPU TYPE will schedule things appropriately for that particular chip, the compiler will not generate any code that does not run on the i386 without the `-march=3DCPU TYPE' option being used. `i586' is equivalent to `pentium' and `i686' is equivalent to `pentiumpro'. `k6' is the AMD chip as opposed to the Intel ones. i686 =3D=3D pentiumpro > > This is not the case with optimizations generally accepted to be > > dangerous (like -O2) from which I have seen many failures from on my >=20 > Grrr. Please stop raising -O2 - it's a total red herring and I've > never implied any kind of causual link between the overall > optimization level and the architecture specific optimizations. :( I > don't know why everybody keeps bringing it up like it was garlic for > warding off vampires or something. I was trying to justify to myself why you thought this was such a bad thing, I thought perhaps you were thinking of a similarity with -O2. > > own systems. Given the number of people who use -march with no ill > > effects the 50/50 estimate is not very accurate. >=20 > Ahem, do we actually know that number? I can't help but feel like > we're both swinging in the dark here, the only difference being that > I'm arguing about avoiding a serious failure and you're arguing about > avoiding a serious warning. :) This whole thing came totally out of the blue for me, I would have appreciated a bit of discussion before unilaterally declaring the project I've been working on "bad for users". Kris --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6phEnWry0BWjoQKURAixeAKCSL/Fh74EI+faXeJVRK5cYTPISmgCfWRgx CUcPjOL08CluWGMxjZGsFAw= =O040 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --opJtzjQTFsWo+cga-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 2:48:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 751D337B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:48:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f27AlTH19668; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:47:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: kris@obsecurity.org Cc: ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de, antony@abacus.co.uk, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf In-Reply-To: <20010307024456.A37349@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <20010307015036.A36721@mollari.cthul.hu> <20010307020500X.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010307024456.A37349@mollari.cthul.hu> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010307024729G.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 02:47:29 -0800 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 28 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: Kris Kennaway Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:44:56 -0800 > > Well, first off you're not even setting it to the same value he > > was. :) > > Yes I am: My apologies - I just saw that in my test build and wasn't aware until now that they were identical. > This whole thing came totally out of the blue for me, I would have > appreciated a bit of discussion before unilaterally declaring the > project I've been working on "bad for users". Well, I can certainly understand that perspective. What would you say to one of the following compromises: a) We make a concerted effort to reproduce Mr Hartman's breakage and only retain the warning message if we or some reasonable proxy person manages to do so. b) We retain the warning but tone it down a lot, simply suggesting that it *might* hurt you if you used it. I would also welcome any suggestions on that wording. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 2:52:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from eve.framatome.fr (eve.framatome.fr [195.101.50.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4864F37B723 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:52:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ubc@paris.framatome.fr) Received: from localhost (ubc@localhost) by eve.framatome.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA85922; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:51:47 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ubc@paris.framatome.fr) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:51:47 +0100 (CET) From: Claude Buisson X-Sender: ubc@eve.framatome.fr To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf In-Reply-To: <20010307013439I.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > It's not supposed to be set by the "general public" and failing to > note this was an error, thanks. I've just committed the following patch: > > +# $FreeBSD: src/etc/defaults/make.conf,v 1.97.2.38 2001/03/07 08:39:29 jkh Exp $ > # > # NOTE: Please would any committer updating this file also update the > # make.conf(5) manual page, if necessary, which is located in > @@ -25,6 +25,16 @@ > # (AMD CPUs) k7 k6-2 k6 k5 > # (Intel CPUs) p4 p3 p2 i686 i586/mmx i586 i486 i386 > # Alpha/AXP architecture: ev6 pca56 ev56 ev5 ev45 ev4 > +# > +# WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! WARNING! > +# > +# It should also be noted that YOU SHOULD NOT SET CPUTYPE TO ANYTHING > +# unless you're absolutely 100% sure you know what you are doing! Some > +# things are known to break with -march=i686, for example, and simply > +# building the world and kernel with CPUTYPE set to something other than > +# the default (i386) is currently guaranteed to hurt you. You should > +# build things very selectively with CPUTYPE set and proceed only if they > +# still appear to work. > # > #CPUTYPE=i686 > #NO_CPU_CFLAGS= true # Don't add -march= to CFLAGS automatically > > I hope that this will prevent others from following (falling?) in your > footsteps. > > - Jordan > Please explain: If CPUTYPE is potentially dangerous, why make its use automatic ? needing a special flag (commented OUT in /etc/default/make.conf) to deny it. Please, revert the default: do NOT use CPUTYPE optimization in a standard build, and let the user ADD it in his /etc/make.conf if he wants to (what I do already by tweaking CFLAGS...). Furthermore: Does the current setting implying the use of CPUTYPE to build releases ? (I probably do not want a march=pentiumpro to build software intended to run on a 386). Claude Buisson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 2:55:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1412837B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:55:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6994566E1B; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:55:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:55:19 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: kris@obsecurity.org, ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de, antony@abacus.co.uk, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf Message-ID: <20010307025519.A37634@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <20010307015036.A36721@mollari.cthul.hu> <20010307020500X.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010307024456.A37349@mollari.cthul.hu> <20010307024729G.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010307024729G.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@osd.bsdi.com on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 02:47:29AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 02:47:29AM -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > Well, I can certainly understand that perspective. What would you > say to one of the following compromises: >=20 > a) We make a concerted effort to reproduce Mr Hartman's breakage > and only retain the warning message if we or some reasonable > proxy person manages to do so. Actually he's already doing this -- I'll look forward to hearing the results. Of course, I'm not ruling out the existence of a specific gcc bug which is causing some code to fail -- after all, we all know gcc is far from bug-free -- but I think the fact that a lot of people use -march with no ill effects says that it's at least "mostly safe". We also need to draw the distinction between the various values of -march, since what is broken for one probably won't be broken for the others. > b) We retain the warning but tone it down a lot, simply suggesting > that it *might* hurt you if you used it. I would also welcome any > suggestions on that wording. I'd be happier with a warning which suggests people remove the CPUTYPE setting as a step in the debugging of runtime failures, and remove the text which suggests it's not appropriate to be used by default. Kris --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6phOXWry0BWjoQKURAjv9AJ9YD9teWaOmGQMGl5NIifBhRkmSsgCg3Yag bTZA3x9bY1yuVvp+eafWQ3I= =Wsem -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7AUc2qLy4jB3hD7Z-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 2:59:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACEE237B71A for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:59:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 722A966E1B; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:59:18 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 02:59:18 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Claude Buisson Cc: Jordan Hubbard , ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf Message-ID: <20010307025918.A37732@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <20010307013439I.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from ubc@paris.framatome.fr on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 11:51:47AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 11:51:47AM +0100, Claude Buisson wrote: > Please explain: >=20 > If CPUTYPE is potentially dangerous, why make its use automatic ? needing > a special flag (commented OUT in /etc/default/make.conf) to deny it. >=20 > Please, revert the default: do NOT use CPUTYPE optimization in a standard > build, and let the user ADD it in his /etc/make.conf if he wants to > (what I do already by tweaking CFLAGS...). Okay, you're getting worked up here for nothing. There are a couple of points: * Jordan's warning added to make.conf is under debate, and I think it's excessive. * CPUTYPE does nothing by default unless you set it. Think of it as just a handy way to add the correct -m flags to your CFLAGS setting without having to grep through info pages looking for the right values. It also does a bit more than this by enabling asm code in OpenSSL and (soon) some ports, but again, only if you specifically enable it. > Furthermore: >=20 > Does the current setting implying the use of CPUTYPE to build releases ? > (I probably do not want a march=3Dpentiumpro to build software intended > to run on a 386). If you don't set CPUTYPE, your software will continue to run on all i386-class CPUs. No defaults have changed here, nor will they for as long as FreeBSD continues to support the 386 CPU. Kris --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6phSGWry0BWjoQKURAqt+AKCMUarCCGbOoFiYQ/cCgA7+wTYpfwCeNvS7 3NGDsfanFnucK9FgPMZOXWI= =kRLh -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --k+w/mQv8wyuph6w0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 3: 2:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A88837B718; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 03:02:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f27B2Vg40929; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:02:31 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stijn) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:02:31 +0100 From: Stijn Hoop To: "Hartmann, O." Cc: Kris Kennaway , jkh@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf Message-ID: <20010307120230.D14261@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> References: <20010307010024.A98154@mollari.cthul.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:14:51AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:14:51AM +0100, Hartmann, O. wrote: > The phenomenon was that a local ypbind couldn't contact the local or > any remote ypserver and it disappeared exactly then when removing > the i686 option (and not changing anything else!). Well, I tried > nearly everything for about one week and only removing this flag > helped. Well, FWIW, I'm not able to reproduce this with my FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #1: Tue Mar 6 16:37:43 CET 2001 stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/PCWIN002 i386 [stijn@pcwin002] <~> sudo domainname XXXXX [stijn@pcwin002] <~> sudo ypbind XXXX [stijn@pcwin002] <~> ps axc | grep ypbind 40786 ?? Ss 0:00.00 ypbind [stijn@pcwin002] <~> ypcat -x Use "passwd" for "passwd.byname" Use "master.passwd" for "master.passwd.byname" Use "group" for "group.byname" Use "networks" for "networks.byaddr" Use "hosts" for "hosts.byaddr" Use "protocols" for "protocols.bynumber" Use "services" for "services.byname" Use "aliases" for "mail.aliases" Use "ethers" for "ethers.byname" I don't know if this is enough testing for you; I need real access to the domain if I'm to ypcat something, but I could arrange for that to happen. Unfortunately, I'm no NIS expert so I need to be guided as to what to do for real tests. Note that this is using CPUTYPE=i686, with build/installworld done twice to make sure the changes were picked up (and I have build logs to prove that they were). HTH, --Stijn -- I wish there was a knob on the TV to turn up the intelligence. There's a knob called `brightness', but it doesn't work." -- Gallagher To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 3: 5:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0172B37B71A for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 03:05:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id vsmaaaaa for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:05:05 +1100 Message-ID: <3AA61689.D6E5CEF3@quake.com.au> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 22:07:53 +1100 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Security Level in Sysinstall Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hiyas, Just wondering if the new Security Level thing in sysinstall only makes changes to rc.conf or dose it do other things as well? Thanks! Kal. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 3:10:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17ADC37B71A for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 03:10:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 03D1466E1B; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 03:10:52 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 03:10:52 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Kal Torak Cc: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: Security Level in Sysinstall Message-ID: <20010307031052.A38464@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <3AA61689.D6E5CEF3@quake.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AA61689.D6E5CEF3@quake.com.au>; from kaltorak@quake.com.au on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:07:53PM +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Check the -security archives for about 3 or 4 weeks ago -- someone posted a big list of all of the things which the security setting in sysinstall does, which will hopefully make its way into the Official Documentation at some point. On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:07:53PM +1100, Kal Torak wrote: > Hiyas, >=20 > Just wondering if the new Security Level thing in sysinstall > only makes changes to rc.conf or dose it do other things as > well? >=20 > Thanks! > Kal. >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >=20 --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6phc8Wry0BWjoQKURArLkAJ9E4QxkJQI3IbL34oztdDbcTPUygACcCspP DYoof7W89KrOKGmSLbarlwo= =4+sk -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8t9RHnE3ZwKMSgU+-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 3:21:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp018.mail.yahoo.com (smtp018.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.174.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 99C3837B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 03:21:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from neve_ripe@yahoo.com) Received: from f2f.tsua.net (HELO never) (212.40.34.58) by smtp.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 11:21:14 -0000 X-Apparently-From: Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:21:07 +0200 From: Alexandr Kovalenko X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.49) UNREG / CD5BF9353B3B7091 Reply-To: Alexandr Kovalenko Organization: UIC Group X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <123887285.20010307132107@yahoo.com> To: "Robert" Cc: "stable" Subject: Re: Is the BSDi CD of 4.2 STABLE or RELEASE ? In-reply-To: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Robert, Wednesday, March 07, 2001, 10:25:03 AM, you wrote: R> The subject says it all? CD is RELEASE -- Best regards, Alexandr mailto:neve_ripe@yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 3:27:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6194D37B71B for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 03:27:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id ctmaaaaa for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:26:38 +1100 Message-ID: <3AA61B96.D9C91B5E@quake.com.au> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 22:29:26 +1100 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: Security Level in Sysinstall References: <3AA61689.D6E5CEF3@quake.com.au> <20010307031052.A38464@mollari.cthul.hu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway wrote: > > Check the -security archives for about 3 or 4 weeks ago -- someone > posted a big list of all of the things which the security setting in > sysinstall does, which will hopefully make its way into the Official > Documentation at some point. Thanks, just incase anyone else was wondering and couldnt find / be botherd searching the security archives I will post what the levels do here... Since it is something that was only added in 4.2 Im sure plenty of people will wonder what it all dose! Extreme ========================================================= Adds the following settings to /etc/rc.conf inetd_enable="NO" portmap_enable="NO" sendmail_enable="NO" sshd_enable="NO" nfs_server_enable="NO" kern_securelevel_enable="YES" kern_securelevel="2" At this level the following services are disabled: inetd portmap sendmail sshd NFS The kernel securelevels are enabled and raised to level 2 --------------------------------------------------------- High ========================================================= Adds the following settings to /etc/rc.conf inetd_enable="NO" sendmail_enable="YES" sshd_enable="YES" portmap_enable="NO" nfs_server_enable="NO" kern_securelevel_enable="YES" kern_securelevel="1" At this level the following services are disabled: inetd portmap NFS Kernel securelevel is enabled and raised to level 1 --------------------------------------------------------- Medium ========================================================= Adds the following settings to /etc/rc.conf inetd_enable="YES" sendmail_enable="YES" sshd_enable="YES" If the machine has been setup as a NFS client or server: portmap_enable="YES" If the machine has not been setup as a NFS server: nfs_reserved_port_only="YES" At this level the following services are enabled: inetd sendmail sshd Depending on whether the machine is setup as a NFS client or server: Client: portmap Server: portmap and NFS is only provided on a secure port Kernel securelevel is not enabled --------------------------------------------------------- Low ========================================================= Adds the following settings to /etc/rc.conf inetd_enable="YES" sendmail_enable="YES" portmap_enable="YES" sshd_enable="YES" At this level the following services are enabled: inetd sendmail portmap sshd Kernel securelevel is not enabled --------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 3:28:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from eve.framatome.fr (eve.framatome.fr [195.101.50.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4162837B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 03:28:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ubc@paris.framatome.fr) Received: from localhost (ubc@localhost) by eve.framatome.fr (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA86041; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:28:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ubc@paris.framatome.fr) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:28:29 +0100 (CET) From: Claude Buisson X-Sender: ubc@eve.framatome.fr To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Jordan Hubbard , ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf In-Reply-To: <20010307025918.A37732@mollari.cthul.hu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Kris Kennaway wrote: > On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 11:51:47AM +0100, Claude Buisson wrote: > > Please explain: > > > > If CPUTYPE is potentially dangerous, why make its use automatic ? needing > > a special flag (commented OUT in /etc/default/make.conf) to deny it. > > > > Please, revert the default: do NOT use CPUTYPE optimization in a standard > > build, and let the user ADD it in his /etc/make.conf if he wants to > > (what I do already by tweaking CFLAGS...). > > Okay, you're getting worked up here for nothing. There are a couple > of points: > > * Jordan's warning added to make.conf is under debate, and I think > it's excessive. > > * CPUTYPE does nothing by default unless you set it. Think of it as > just a handy way to add the correct -m flags to your CFLAGS > setting without having to grep through info pages looking for the > right values. It also does a bit more than this by enabling asm code > in OpenSSL and (soon) some ports, but again, only if you specifically > enable it. > > > Furthermore: > > > > Does the current setting implying the use of CPUTYPE to build releases ? > > (I probably do not want a march=pentiumpro to build software intended > > to run on a 386). > > If you don't set CPUTYPE, your software will continue to run on all > i386-class CPUs. No defaults have changed here, nor will they for as > long as FreeBSD continues to support the 386 CPU. > > Kris > Thanks for the explanation, but I have another question (I know, I am dumb): given that the optimization MUST be activated by a CPUTYPE=XXX in the user's /etc/make.conf, what is the use of NO_CPU_FLAGS ? just needing 2 lines instead of 0 in /etc/make.conf ? Claude Buisson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 3:52:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail006.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail006.syd.optusnet.com.au [203.2.75.230]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1243137B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 03:52:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dgres@dingoblue.net.au) Received: from SAKE.dingoblue.net.au (sdcax52-232.dialup.optusnet.com.au [198.142.206.232]) by mail006.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f27Bqe926741 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:52:41 +1100 Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.2.20010307223821.00dc69f8@mail.dingoblue.net.au> X-Sender: dgres@mail.dingoblue.net.au X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 22:53:22 +1100 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org From: Danny Greschke Subject: IPFilter doing wacky things after recompiled kernel today Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This will probably be something stupid. But after a recompiled kernel today IPFilter started doing some damn weird stuff. Firstly (and yes, I'm a newbie) the last kernel build of 4.2 I did on this machine was a month ago, and now it seems that everything is being loaded as modules or something ? Plus now it's apparently version 4.3-Beta ? I guess they're side questions, anyway. So I load my ipf ruleset only to find that all my pass/block in's are being registered as pass/block out's. Like, if the only rule I had in my ruleset was 'pass in all'. I'll flush, and 'ipfstat -i' says that I have no input rules specified, but 'ipfstat -o' says that I have 1 rule, "pass out all" loaded. I have no idea how this is happening or what's causing it. Can anyone point me in the right direction ? 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REMOVING.NET IS AN INDEPENDENT SERVICE -----------------------REMOVE------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 4:37:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E4F37B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 04:37:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id 93FB11360C; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 07:37:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 07:37:02 -0500 From: Chris Faulhaber To: Danny Greschke Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFilter doing wacky things after recompiled kernel today Message-ID: <20010307073702.A79099@peitho.fxp.org> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Faulhaber , Danny Greschke , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010307223821.00dc69f8@mail.dingoblue.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010307223821.00dc69f8@mail.dingoblue.net.au>; from dgres@dingoblue.net.au on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:53:22PM +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:53:22PM +1100, Danny Greschke wrote: > This will probably be something stupid. > But after a recompiled kernel today IPFilter started doing some damn weir= d=20 > stuff. >=20 > Firstly (and yes, I'm a newbie) the last kernel build of 4.2 I did on thi= s=20 > machine was a month ago, and now it seems that everything is being loaded= =20 > as modules or something ? Plus now it's apparently version 4.3-Beta ? I= =20 > guess they're side questions, anyway. >=20 Are you rebuilding the rest of your system? Sounds like your userland and kernel are out of sync... --=20 Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: FreeBSD: The Power To Serve iEYEARECAAYFAjqmK24ACgkQObaG4P6BelCqygCeLdc2e9CFRWdYCkINHR6pYgwz YLYAoI1DgRyfjzT2uhRVo57Mei47iHSz =exIb -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --a8Wt8u1KmwUX3Y2C-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 5:19:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bumper.jellybaby.net (bumper.jellybaby.net [194.159.247.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6FBCB37B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 05:19:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simond@bumper.jellybaby.net) Received: (from simond@localhost) by bumper.jellybaby.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) id NAA38727 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:19:17 GMT (envelope-from simond) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:19:16 +0000 From: simond@irrelevant.org To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem with top in todays stable Message-ID: <20010307131916.A38379@irrelevant.org> References: <20010306161215.A91244@irrelevant.org> <5.0.2.1.0.20010306111946.024357d0@marble.sentex.ca> <20010306163517.C91244@irrelevant.org> <20010306192609.B61390@baggah.yi.org> <20010307094446.A30608@irrelevant.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010307094446.A30608@irrelevant.org>; from simond@irrelevant.org on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 09:44:46AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 09:44:46AM +0000, simond@irrelevant.org wrote: > On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 07:26:09PM +0100, Olgerik Albers wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 04:35:17PM +0000, simond@irrelevant.org wrote: > > >d On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 11:20:55AM -0500, Mike Tancsa wrote: > > > > > > > > At 04:12 PM 3/6/01 +0000, simond@irrelevant.org wrote: > > > > >Despite having my kernel and world in sync (and trying rebuilting top > > > > >seperately), I always get "top: nlist failed" error message, this is from > > > > >a cvsup from a couple of hours ago, I haven't tried cvsuping again yet > > > > >mainly as I have to work on this machine too. > > > > > > > > > >Anyone know if this has been fixed? > > > > > > > > Are you sure you are using /boot/loader to boot your system ? > > > > > > I'm using a standard install of FreeBSD, non dedicated install and doing > > > the proper build process, top was working before the last buildworld, > > > buildkernel, installkernel, installworld, mergemaster I did. > > > > > And a (cd /dev/; ./MAKEDEV all) ??? > > maybe that will fix it? > > That was a nice new feature I just saw in mergemaster, it did it for me > after asking :) Just to close this off, I just did another cvsup and make sequence and all is fine again. -- Simon Dick simond@irrelevant.org "Why do I get this urge to go bowling everytime I see Tux?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 7:12:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from slave2.aa.net (slave2.aa.net [204.157.220.251]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE8937B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 07:12:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Meph@Aeon-AL.Com) Received: from Ra-Hoor.Aeon-AL.Com (host48.207-55-126.aadsl.com [207.55.126.48]) by slave2.aa.net (8.9.1/8.8.5) with ESMTP id HAB21043 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 07:12:47 -0800 X-Intended-For: Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 07:14:16 -0800 (PST) From: Meph Istopheles Reply-To: Meph Istopheles To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG subscribe freebsd-stable To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 8:13:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-1242.charter-stl.com [24.217.116.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D09AA37B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:13:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A7DA3A89F; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:13:28 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:13:28 -0600 From: Andrew Hesford To: Danny Greschke Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: IPFilter doing wacky things after recompiled kernel today Message-ID: <20010307101328.A859@cec.wustl.edu> References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010307223821.00dc69f8@mail.dingoblue.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.2.20010307223821.00dc69f8@mail.dingoblue.net.au>; from dgres@dingoblue.net.au on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:53:22PM +1100 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Have you tried ipfirewall? Maybe the problem is unique to ipfilter. Besides, if you aks me, ipfirewall is better. Also, it never hurts to cvsup and rebuild the world (actually, reading this list, I guess sometimes it's really painful, but I've never had a problem :), just to make sure nothing is wrong. On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 10:53:22PM +1100, Danny Greschke wrote: > This will probably be something stupid. > But after a recompiled kernel today IPFilter started doing some damn weird > stuff. > > Firstly (and yes, I'm a newbie) the last kernel build of 4.2 I did on this > machine was a month ago, and now it seems that everything is being loaded > as modules or something ? Plus now it's apparently version 4.3-Beta ? I > guess they're side questions, anyway. > > So I load my ipf ruleset only to find that all my pass/block in's are being > registered as pass/block out's. > > Like, if the only rule I had in my ruleset was 'pass in all'. I'll flush, > and 'ipfstat -i' says that I have no input rules specified, but 'ipfstat > -o' says that I have 1 rule, "pass out all" loaded. > > I have no idea how this is happening or what's causing it. > Can anyone point me in the right direction ? > > Thanks, > > Danny Greschke > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 8:19:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from burdell.cc.gatech.edu (burdell.cc.gatech.edu [130.207.3.207]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7587F37B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 08:19:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dibble@cc.gatech.edu) Received: from felix.cc.gatech.edu (felix.cc.gatech.edu [130.207.107.11]) by burdell.cc.gatech.edu (8.9.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA01723; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:19:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost (dibble@localhost) by felix.cc.gatech.edu (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id LAA16380; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:19:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:19:32 -0500 (EST) From: Dibble To: Kal Torak Cc: Robert , stable Subject: Re: Is the BSDi CD of 4.2 STABLE or RELEASE ? In-Reply-To: <3AA5F3D9.782606A0@quake.com.au> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Actually, Walnut Creek *does* put out a CD-ROM of -stable and, I believe, current twice a year. But, from the development standpoint, I would agree with you. -release should be what is on the CD-ROM. --jeff lee On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Kal Torak wrote: > Robert wrote: > > > > The subject says it all? > > > > bob > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > CDs are always RELEASE's > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > ####################### If we weren't all crazy, we would go insane. --Jimmy Buffett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 9: 2:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.100.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4767C37B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:02:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA40502; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:02:03 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010307015036.A36721@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <20010307011446.A8574@mollari.cthul.hu> <20010307012454.A14664@mollari.cthul.hu> <20010307014323M.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010307015036.A36721@mollari.cthul.hu> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:02:01 -0500 To: Kris Kennaway , Jordan Hubbard From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf Cc: kris@obsecurity.org, ohartman@klima.physik.uni-mainz.de, antony@abacus.co.uk, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 1:50 AM -0800 3/7/01, Kris Kennaway wrote: >I can be confident it is not a dangerous option, having never seen >code failure caused by it desipite extensive use for a long time. >[...] Given the number of people who use -march with no ill effects >the 50/50 estimate is not very accurate. And what is "the number of people who use -march with no ill effects"? (ie, how many people do you know are using it, and what values are they using?) I definitely like the idea of this option, particularly if it means optimizations in openssl. However, I must admit I haven't actually tried it yet, even though I think it is a good option. Thus, I am inclined to think it would be prudent to include some kind of warning for the option in 4.3-release, although the wording used by Jordan does seem a bit over-zealous. Maybe something like If you experience problems while using this option, please remove all your object files and try another 'make buildworld' without any setting for this option. There is some evidence that this option might cause trouble for installations using NIS/YP, for instance. If this option does seem to cause problems for you, please let us know the details via a message to the freebsd-stable mailing list. What I'm shooting for is something which would be helpful for someone who DOES run into problems, and yet makes it clear that this is an option we do WANT to work right, and we are actively interested in fixing any problems which come up. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 9: 6:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.rpi.edu (mail.rpi.edu [128.113.100.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C175F37B71B for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:06:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from drosih@rpi.edu) Received: from [128.113.24.47] (gilead.acs.rpi.edu [128.113.24.47]) by mail.rpi.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA89026; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:06:40 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: drosih@mail.rpi.edu Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <20010304165708.A40747@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <004601c0a503$4ef3a850$0300a8c0@magus> <20010304165708.A40747@mollari.cthul.hu> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:06:39 -0500 To: Kris Kennaway , William Wong From: Garance A Drosihn Subject: Re: Keeping track of Changes? Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 4:57 PM -0800 3/4/01, Kris Kennaway wrote: >Well, it varies according to developer - but given the number of >un-merged changes that I found in the tree last night the general >answer might be "they don't" :-) Note that if you're casting your eye into usr.sbin/lpr territory, be careful about what you MFC. The recent INET6-releated update turns it into something which does not link under -stable, so don't rush to MFC things there... [which is to say, some of us don't MFC things because we know they WON'T work...] I do intend to fix that update, because I do not intend to leave lpr as "-current only" for the indefinite future. -- Garance Alistair Drosehn = gad@eclipse.acs.rpi.edu Senior Systems Programmer or gad@freebsd.org Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute or drosih@rpi.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 9:14:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B246E37B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:14:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f27HEBd09578; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:14:15 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200103071714.f27HEBd09578@harmony.village.org> To: Bruce Burden Subject: Re: pointers for config flash mem card, please Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@freebsd.ogr In-reply-to: Your message of "Sat, 03 Mar 2001 00:48:05 CST." <20010303004805.A7366@tigerfish2.my.domain> References: <20010303004805.A7366@tigerfish2.my.domain> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:14:11 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20010303004805.A7366@tigerfish2.my.domain> Bruce Burden writes: : pcic-pci0: mem 0xd3401000-0xd3401fff irq 19 at device : +9.0 on pci0 : pcic-pci1: mem 0xd3402000-0xd3402fff irq 16 at device : +9.1 on pci0 I've not successfully run pccard on MP hardware. Warenr To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 9:16:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay1.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (www.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua [212.111.192.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83DD637B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:15:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fm@astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua) Received: from astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (if-14-13-10M.astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua [10.100.0.14]) by relay1.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3BBD30453 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:15:33 +0200 (EET) Received: (from fm@localhost) by astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f27HFRj60884 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:15:27 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from fm) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:15:26 +0200 From: "Dmitry A. Yanko" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: panic, ipfw broken in stable? Message-ID: <20010307191526.A60472@astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In /etc/rc.conf: firewall_enable="YES" (panic only in this case) fault addr. = 0x50 fault code = sup. write, page not present ip = 0x8:0xc01a44cb sp = 0x10:0xc02e0ad0 fp = 0x10:0xc02e0b50 cs = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = dpl 0, pres. 1, def32 1, grap 1 p. eflags = int. enable, resume, IOPL=0 cur. proc = Idle int. mask = net trap. num = 12 panic: page fault ... sync. disk ... fault addr. = 0x30 fault code = sup. write, page not present ip = 0x8:0xc0223d4c sp = 0x10:0xc02e08fc fp = 0x10:0xc02e0904 cs = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = dpl 0, pres. 1, def32 1, grap 1 p. eflags = int. enable, resume, IOPL=0 cur. proc = Idle int. mask = net bio cam trap. num = 12 panic: page fault ... uptime 18m40s ~>nm /kernel | g c01a4 c01a49ec T in_delayed_cksum c01a4cdc T ip_ctloutput c01a4a64 t ip_insertoptions c01a4c44 T ip_optcopy ~>nm /kernel | g c0223d c0223d04 t acquire_lock c0223d88 t acquire_lock_interlocked c0223d60 t free_lock c0223ddc t free_lock_interlocked dmesg.boot: Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #11: Wed Mar 7 17:13:36 EET 2001 root@somehost:/.second/obj/.second/cvsup/src/sys/femeal Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz Timecounter "TSC" frequency 381160680 Hz CPU: AMD-K6(tm) 3D processor (381.16-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x58c Stepping = 12 Features=0x8021bf AMD Features=0x80000800 real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) avail memory = 126054400 (123100K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc03b7000. K6-family MTRR support enabled (2 registers) npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 0.0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 ed0: port 0xe000-0xe01f irq 11 at device 12.0 on pci0 ed0: address 52:54:ab:11:9d:fe, type NE2000 (16 bit) atapci0: port 0xf000-0xf00f at device 15.0 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 sbc0: at port 0x220-0x22f irq 5 drq 1,0 on isa0 pcm0: on sbc0 DUMMYNET initialized (010124) IP packet filtering initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to accept, logging disabled IPsec: Initialized Security Association Processing. IP Filter: v3.4.16 initialized. Default = pass all, Logging = enabled ad0: 19574MB [39770/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA33 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master using UDMA33 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s3a WARNING: / was not properly dismounted my kernel: machine i386 cpu I586_CPU ident somehost maxusers 512 #makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols options INET #InterNETworking options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support #options MFS #Memory Filesystem options NFS #Network Filesystem options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options QUOTA options DUMMYNET options IPFIREWALL #firewall options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT #allow everything by default options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD #enable transparent proxy support #options IPV6FIREWALL #firewall for IPv6 #options IPV6FIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT options IPFILTER #ipfilter support options IPFILTER_LOG #ipfilter logging options IPSEC options IPSEC_ESP options PORTAL options USER_LDT options INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE # Include this file in kernel #options IPSTEALTH #support for stealth forwarding options NETGRAPH options COMPAT_LINUX device isa device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 # ATA and ATAPI devices device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives #device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives #device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices #options ATA_ENABLE_TAGS #To enable Tagged Queuing support (only IBM DPTA and DTLA drives support that) # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Serial (COM) ports device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da # ISA Ethernet NICs. device ed # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated. pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) #pseudo-device md # Memory "disks" pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) pseudo-device vn 2 # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter device pcm -- #include , fm. GnuPG fpr = 6101 9519 9A45 3D44 3BCB 0974 C774 5143 8F26 95B5 Mail message with GPG-KEY in subject to get my public key |&| DAY-RIPE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 9:38:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61C9B37B71A; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 09:38:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Received: from harmony.village.org (localhost.village.org [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f27HcBd09727; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:38:11 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@harmony.village.org) Message-Id: <200103071738.f27HcBd09727@harmony.village.org> To: Maxim Sobolev Subject: Re: Can't build 5-current world on 4-stable box (perl doesn't bootstrap properly) Cc: markm@FreeBSD.ORG, des@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 06 Mar 2001 15:26:24 +0200." <3AA4E580.8A59728C@FreeBSD.org> References: <3AA4E580.8A59728C@FreeBSD.org> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:38:11 -0700 From: Warner Losh Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <3AA4E580.8A59728C@FreeBSD.org> Maxim Sobolev writes: : I reported it about a month ago, but the problem still persists. 5-current : buildworld can't be performed on reasonably recent 4-stable system, hence : source upgrade path from -stable to -current is broken. Please fix. I have the same box that you have (more or less) and I have no problems building my -current sources. Maybe some more details are required before it can be fixed. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 10:10:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from linux.intcon.net (linux.intcon.net [206.230.48.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95B8E37B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:10:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@portal.megahack.com) Received: from portal.megahack.com (portal.megahack.com [206.230.54.106]) by linux.intcon.net (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f27IAJu17621; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:10:19 -0600 Received: (from steve@localhost) by portal.megahack.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f27IAI973914; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:10:18 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from steve) From: Steven Farmer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15014.31114.28633.215085@catbert.megahack.com> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:10:18 -0600 (CST) To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf In-Reply-To: <20010307025918.A37732@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <20010307013439I.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010307025918.A37732@mollari.cthul.hu> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> "Kris" == Kris Kennaway writes: ... Kris> * Jordan's warning added to make.conf is under debate, and I Kris> think it's excessive. I'm happy to see CPUTYPE, but I've had recent firsthand experience with the use of "-O -march=pentiumpro" breaking /usr/bin/make. All was well until the next buildlworld, when make would get SIGSEGVs at various points. To recover, I had to go back to plain "-O" in CFLAGS, cd to /usr/src/usr.bin/make, rebuild and install it, and then start the buildworld again. I was fortunate that make didn't die while rebuilding make - it could have been worse. This was a couple of weeks ago. I didn't post anything about it at the time for a couple of reasons: first, there have been various "don't come crying to us" pronoucements in the past from developers regarding the use of anything but "-O" for builds. Second, I didn't want to cause a bunch of "it's your hardware" postings. It's NOT my hardware! Well, ok maybe -march=pentiumpro tickles a microcode bug in cpus of a particular stepping, so maybe that is "hardware". But the fact is that everything, so far as I know, works fine with plain "-O". BTW - I have a _genuine_ Pentium Pro, not one of those Johnny-come-lately Pentium IIs or IIIs. :-) It won't be the end of the world for me if I can't use CPUTYPE, but it would be wonderful if there was a way to override the global CPUTYPE setting on a case-by-case basis to fix the occasional breakage. I'd really like to have my cake and eat it too. Just a thought. Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 10:15:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96D9C37B71A for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:15:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) id f27IFF170896; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:15:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:15:15 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200103071815.f27IFF170896@earth.backplane.com> To: Steven Farmer Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf References: <20010307013439I.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010307025918.A37732@mollari.cthul.hu> <15014.31114.28633.215085@catbert.megahack.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I like the idea of an ARCH flag, but anybody who actually uses it with current GCC's must love pain! I just don't bother any more. The most I'll ever use is -Os to generate smaller binaries but even that has broken on me. So now I just use -O and wipe my hands of the whole thing. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 10:19:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4786637B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:19:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oberman@ptavv.es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f27IJss15060; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:19:54 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103071819.f27IJss15060@ptavv.es.net> To: "Vladimir V. Egorin" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hardware support question In-reply-to: Your message of "Tue, 06 Mar 2001 16:08:27 CST." <20010306160827.B9205@math.uic.edu> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 10:19:54 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As long as it's a 16 -bit card and not a CardBus card, it should be fine. Xircom makes both. Xircom support has been in FreeBSD since 3.4 (although temporarily lost in 4.0). I use mine all the time. If it's a CardBus card, it will not work in 4.x-Stable. You will have to use -current. It is widely reported that the Xircom card works pretty well in current, but I would suggest not trying to run current unless you have time to hack kernel code and rebuild your system a LOT. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 10:28:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gateway.symark.com (firewall.symark.westlake.iswest.net [207.178.203.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5323537B71A for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:28:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ggross@symark.com) Received: (from mailer@localhost) by gateway.symark.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA30679; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:28:35 -0800 Received: from camel.symark.com(128.1.1.97) by gateway.symark.com via smap (V2.1+anti-relay+anti-spam) id xma030643; Wed, 7 Mar 01 10:28:07 -0800 Received: by localhost with Microsoft MAPI; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:31:24 -0800 Message-ID: <01C0A6F1.C26E6DC0.ggross@symark.com> From: Glen Gross Reply-To: "ggross@symark.com" To: "'Matt Dillon'" , Steven Farmer Cc: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: RE: ARCH flag in new make.conf Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:31:23 -0800 Organization: Symark Software X-Mailer: Microsoft Internet E-mail/MAPI - 8.0.0.4211 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The impression I get is that when people use it, they usually end up complaining to the list about something not working, and then it is not immediately obvious that broken optimization routines are the problem. On the basis of a dialogue I read about 6 months ago on this list, I decided to avoid it like the plague until the current version of gcc stabilizes somewhat. Does that make sense, or am I being overly cautious? On Wednesday, March 07, 2001 10:15 AM, Matt Dillon [SMTP:dillon@earth.backplane.com] wrote: > I like the idea of an ARCH flag, but anybody who actually uses it with > current GCC's must love pain! I just don't bother any more. The most > I'll ever use is -Os to generate smaller binaries but even that has > broken > on me. So now I just use -O and wipe my hands of the whole thing. > > -Matt > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message Glen M. Gross Unix Technical Support Specialist Symark Software 5716 Corsa Avenue, Suite 200 Westlake Village, CA 91362 http://www.symark.com pp-support@symark.com pb-support@symark.com Main: 800-234-9072 or 818-865-6100 Main fax: 818-889-1894 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 10:57:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5469F37B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:57:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) id f27Iuxl71513; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:56:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:56:59 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200103071856.f27Iuxl71513@earth.backplane.com> To: Glen Gross Cc: Steven Farmer , "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: RE: ARCH flag in new make.conf References: <01C0A6F1.C26E6DC0.ggross@symark.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :The impression I get is that when people use it, they usually end up :complaining to the list about something not working, and then it is :not immediately obvious that broken optimization routines are the problem. On :the basis of a dialogue I read about 6 months ago on this list, :I decided to avoid it like the plague until the current version of gcc :stabilizes somewhat. Does that make sense, or am I being overly cautious? I think you are being entirely sensible. I used to use -O2 all the time, but as of about a year ago it started breaking things (starting with the FreeBSD kernel). Then I started using -Os because I like the code compaction it produced, but that started breaking the kernel too. Now I just use -O (and -O had damn well better continue to work because my static inlines will not compile properly without it!). Now I just don't care any more, except for the 0.1% of my personal code that I need to optimize, and most of that I optimize simply by playing around with the C a little or changing an algorithm out or something like that. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 11:15:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from euphoria.confusion.net (dementia.confusion.net [205.166.119.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21F9637B71A for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:15:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stuyman@euphoria.confusion.net) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by euphoria.confusion.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f27JFGE16985; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:15:16 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:15:15 -0800 (PST) From: Larry Berland To: Dibble Cc: Kal Torak , Robert , stable Subject: Re: Is the BSDi CD of 4.2 STABLE or RELEASE ? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Speaking of CDs, anyone know when a new toolkit is gonna hit? The last one was quite a while ago... Laurence http://www.isp.nwu.edu/~laurence On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Dibble wrote: > Actually, Walnut Creek *does* put out a CD-ROM of -stable and, I believe, > current twice a year. But, from the development standpoint, I would agree > with you. -release should be what is on the CD-ROM. > > --jeff lee > > On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Kal Torak wrote: > > > Robert wrote: > > > > > > The subject says it all? > > > > > > bob > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > CDs are always RELEASE's > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > ####################### > If we weren't all crazy, we would go insane. > --Jimmy Buffett > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 11:18:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mclean.mail.mindspring.net (mclean.mail.mindspring.net [207.69.200.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFBC337B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:18:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mvh@ix.netcom.com) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (lai-ca4d-141.ix.netcom.com [209.110.247.141]) by mclean.mail.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id OAA09273; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:07:25 -0500 (EST) Received: by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D5068113F72; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:07:19 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Harding To: dillon@earth.backplane.com Cc: ggross@symark.com, steve@megahack.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <200103071856.f27Iuxl71513@earth.backplane.com> (message from Matt Dillon on Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:56:59 -0800 (PST)) Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf References: <01C0A6F1.C26E6DC0.ggross@symark.com> <200103071856.f27Iuxl71513@earth.backplane.com> Message-Id: <20010307190719.D5068113F72@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:07:19 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've been bugging Kris about this for a while - I don't care about the -march stuff, but the openssl optimizations are pretty much a requirement when you have an SSL server... it doubles the RSA speed. - Mike H. Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:56:59 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Dillon Cc: Steven Farmer , "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk :The impression I get is that when people use it, they usually end up :complaining to the list about something not working, and then it is :not immediately obvious that broken optimization routines are the problem. On :the basis of a dialogue I read about 6 months ago on this list, :I decided to avoid it like the plague until the current version of gcc :stabilizes somewhat. Does that make sense, or am I being overly cautious? I think you are being entirely sensible. I used to use -O2 all the time, but as of about a year ago it started breaking things (starting with the FreeBSD kernel). Then I started using -Os because I like the code compaction it produced, but that started breaking the kernel too. Now I just use -O (and -O had damn well better continue to work because my static inlines will not compile properly without it!). Now I just don't care any more, except for the 0.1% of my personal code that I need to optimize, and most of that I optimize simply by playing around with the C a little or changing an algorithm out or something like that. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 11:21:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from k2.jozsef.kando.hu (k2.jozsef.kando.hu [193.224.40.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4421337B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:21:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bra@fsn.hu) Received: (qmail 27077 invoked by uid 1000); 7 Mar 2001 19:21:16 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 19:21:16 -0000 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:21:15 +0100 (CET) From: Attila Nagy X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Broken 4.3-BETA? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, I'm totally confused... I've had a machine with 4.2-STABLE (from around the end of february) which runs the standard FTPD in a jail with data directories unionfs mounted. The machine worked very well, but had some misterious restarts, so I decided to upgrade yesterday. I've compiled 4.3-BETA from the latest cvsup of today on a 4.2-STABLE machine (this is from around mid-feb). After the upgrade on the FTP server everything seemed to work fine except the FTPD. When I get a file it gives me *binary trash*, even when I download ASCII files! It seems that it happens because of UNIONFS. If I start the FTPD-jail with a non UNIONFS FTP spool directory everything is OK. (I've tried this with mounting a spare UFS partition) The problem appears only with FTPD, so I think it's in connection with sendfile(), because the other daemons don't use that and they are working fine. I tried to reboot the machine with the old kernel this gave me the same behaviour, but with another kind of "trash", it seems that sendfile() sends another location of the disk. Also I tried to copy the old shared libraries into the jail with the old binaries, but it also failed to work (I simply could not start the daemon, but this seems to be OK because of some differences in another regions of the OS). Could you please help me to figure out what the problem is? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attila Nagy e-mail: Attila.Nagy@fsn.hu Budapest Polytechnic (BMF.HU) @work: +361 210 1415 (194) H-1084 Budapest, Tavaszmezo u. 15-17. cell.: +3630 306 6758 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 11:31:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from knock.econ.vt.edu (knock.econ.vt.edu [128.173.172.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D255A37B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:31:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rdmurphy@knock.econ.vt.edu) Received: (from rdmurphy@localhost) by knock.econ.vt.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f27JV8Q05716; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:31:08 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from rdmurphy) From: "Russell D. Murphy Jr." MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15014.35964.607904.787071@knock.econ.vt.edu> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:31:08 -0500 (EST) To: "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf References: <01C0A6F1.C26E6DC0.ggross@symark.com> <200103071856.f27Iuxl71513@earth.backplane.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Reply-To: rdmurphy@vt.edu Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Another datapoint. . . I changed make.conf on, I believe, Dec. 6: # CFLAGS= -O -pipe CFLAGS= -O -pipe -mcpu=pentiumpro -march=pentiumpro (There's also: COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe) (I gather that -mcpu is redundant.) I re-cvsup, buildworld, and installworld (and kernel. . .) roughly weekly (7 times, by my logs). Until the CPUTYPE discussion came up, I had forgotten I was trying out -march; everything seems to be working fine. The machine is: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #0: Fri Feb 23 07:17:24 EST 2001 root@knock.econ.vt.edu:/disk1/obj/usr/src/sys/KNOCK CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (397.95-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x652 Stepping = 2 Features=0x183f9ff real memory = 268435456 (262144K bytes) avail memory = 257609728 (251572K bytes) FYI- RDM -- Russell D. Murphy Department of Economics Virginia Polytechnic Institute and State University Blacksburg, Virginia 24061 (540) 231-4537 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 11:31:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DE8C37B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:31:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA23382; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:28:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <200103071928.LAA23382@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: panic, ipfw broken in stable? In-Reply-To: <20010307191526.A60472@astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua> from "Dmitry A. Yanko" at "Mar 7, 2001 07:15:26 pm" To: fm@astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (Dmitry A. Yanko) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:28:49 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > In /etc/rc.conf: > firewall_enable="YES" > (panic only in this case) ... > ip = 0x8:0xc01a44cb ... > ~>nm /kernel | g c01a4 0xc01a44cb is in some routine right before this, I suspect ip_input, can you get us the output of nm /kernel | grep c01a or whatever it takes to show us what code as at 0xc01a44cb??? > c01a49ec T in_delayed_cksum > c01a4cdc T ip_ctloutput > c01a4a64 t ip_insertoptions > c01a4c44 T ip_optcopy -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 11:43:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from k2.jozsef.kando.hu (k2.jozsef.kando.hu [193.224.40.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5621537B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:43:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bra@fsn.hu) Received: (qmail 31429 invoked by uid 1000); 7 Mar 2001 19:43:23 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 19:43:23 -0000 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:43:23 +0100 (CET) From: Attila Nagy X-X-Sender: To: Subject: sendfile() and unionfs are incompatible in 4.3-BETA Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, After my previous mail I patched the ftpd.c to use the old mmap code instead of sendfile() and it works great. So it is clear to me that sendfile() and unionfs are incompatible in 4.3-BETA (as of today), which wasn't the case some weeks ago. Could somebody inspect this? Thanks, -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attila Nagy e-mail: Attila.Nagy@fsn.hu Budapest Polytechnic (BMF.HU) @work: +361 210 1415 (194) H-1084 Budapest, Tavaszmezo u. 15-17. cell.: +3630 306 6758 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 12: 6: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sullivan.realtime.net (sullivan.realtime.net [205.238.128.209]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB46337B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:05:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brucegb@sullivan.realtime.net) Received: (from brucegb@localhost) by sullivan.realtime.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA46328; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:05:52 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from brucegb) From: Bruce Burden Message-Id: <200103072005.OAA46328@sullivan.realtime.net> Subject: Re: Temp and fan program In-Reply-To: from Rich Morin at "Mar 6, 2001 11:15:27 pm" To: rdm@cfcl.com (Rich Morin), freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 14:05:52 -0600 (CST) X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > Ryan Snedegar pointed me to lmmon(8), in the Ports Collection. Quite > a nifty little utility, but sadly, it does not report CPU temperature. > If anyone has a pointer to the magic values to get at this through the > /dev/io interface to the LM78/79 addresses, I would be most obliged. > Very similiar is wmlmmon, which pops up a little window. You can click on the top of the window to get CPU temps and fan speeds. I believe wmlmmon is lmmon in a Gnome(GTK) window. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 12:11:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peitho.fxp.org (peitho.fxp.org [209.26.95.40]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9BC837B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:11:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from cdf.lists@fxp.org) Received: by peitho.fxp.org (Postfix, from userid 1501) id F01201360C; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:11:15 -0500 (EST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:11:15 -0500 From: Chris Faulhaber To: Bruce Burden Cc: Rich Morin , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Temp and fan program Message-ID: <20010307151115.B79099@peitho.fxp.org> Mail-Followup-To: Chris Faulhaber , Bruce Burden , Rich Morin , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <200103072005.OAA46328@sullivan.realtime.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="v9Ux+11Zm5mwPlX6" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103072005.OAA46328@sullivan.realtime.net>; from brucegb@realtime.net on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 02:05:52PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --v9Ux+11Zm5mwPlX6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 02:05:52PM -0600, Bruce Burden wrote: > > > > Ryan Snedegar pointed me to lmmon(8), in the Ports Collection. Quite > > a nifty little utility, but sadly, it does not report CPU temperature. > > If anyone has a pointer to the magic values to get at this through the > > /dev/io interface to the LM78/79 addresses, I would be most obliged. > >=20 lmmon/wmlmmon have not been updated since: a) I don't have specs for other chipsets; b) I don't have other hardware for other chipsets for testing; c) patches are accepted :) (btw, what hardware *do* you have?) > Very similiar is wmlmmon, which pops up a little window. You > can click on the top of the window to get CPU temps and fan speeds. >=20 > I believe wmlmmon is lmmon in a Gnome(GTK) window. >=20 Ummm, no. :) It is a windowmaker dock app... --=20 Chris D. Faulhaber - jedgar@fxp.org - jedgar@FreeBSD.org -------------------------------------------------------- FreeBSD: The Power To Serve - http://www.FreeBSD.org --v9Ux+11Zm5mwPlX6 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: FreeBSD: The Power To Serve iEYEARECAAYFAjqmleMACgkQObaG4P6BelDfGACgoHFib6j6z98E6NQCQ5a4en4e m7cAnigJNqHk3+MsDHIHHxSMNAMA8u4o =935a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --v9Ux+11Zm5mwPlX6-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 12:15:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amx.mathieu.org (modemcable161.243-201-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca [24.201.243.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B6637B71B for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:15:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mathieu@amx.dyn.dhs.org) Received: from amx.dyn.dhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by amx.mathieu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 799913FCD for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:24:40 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AA69908.BC78CEBB@amx.dyn.dhs.org> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 15:24:40 -0500 From: Mathieu Reply-To: mathieu@amx.dyn.dhs.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-BETA i386) X-Accept-Language: fr-CA, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Crash with Linux Netscape ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hey ! Sorry I don't speak english very well... ;p I have just downloaded 4.3-BETA, and the Linux Netscape Communicator (installed from the ports) is now crashing my computer :( It runs 2 or 3 seconds, and then the computer reboots ! It was working fine with -STABLE of the last week. (I tested it again with my kernel.old to make sur the problem was related to the kernel) BTW, is it normal the computer just reboots ? Or should I see some panic messages somewhere ? Thanks ! -- Mathieu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 12:16:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4917C37B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:16:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 4729 invoked by uid 0); 7 Mar 2001 20:16:21 -0000 Received: from pd9508842.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (217.80.136.66) by mail.gmx.net (mp025-rz3) with SMTP; 7 Mar 2001 20:16:21 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id TAA02900 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:15:01 +0100 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:15:01 +0100 From: Gerhard Sittig To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Temp and fan program Message-ID: <20010307191501.K20830@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: ; from rdm@cfcl.com on Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 11:15:27PM -0800 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Mar 06, 2001 at 23:15 -0800, Rich Morin wrote: > > Ryan Snedegar pointed me to lmmon(8), in the Ports Collection. > Quite a nifty little utility, but sadly, it does not report CPU > temperature. If anyone has a pointer to the magic values to > get at this through the /dev/io interface to the LM78/79 > addresses, I would be most obliged. Talking about ports, have you tried "cd /usr/ports; make search key=$CATCHWORD" with some "temperature", "sensor", "monitor", and the like? /usr/ports/sysutils looks promising ... virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 12:19: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay1.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (www.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua [212.111.192.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6507E37B71A for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:18:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fm@astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua) Received: from astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (if-14-13-10M.astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua [10.100.0.14]) by relay1.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6706230486; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:18:40 +0200 (EET) Received: (from fm@localhost) by astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f27KEx664461; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:14:59 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from fm) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:14:59 +0200 From: "Dmitry A. Yanko" To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: panic, ipfw broken in stable? Message-ID: <20010307221459.A64274@astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua> References: <20010307191526.A60472@astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua> <200103071928.LAA23382@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103071928.LAA23382@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>; from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 11:28:49AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 11:28:49AM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > 0xc01a44cb is in some routine right before this, I suspect ip_input, > can you get us the output of nm /kernel | grep c01a or whatever it > takes to show us what code as at 0xc01a44cb??? > c01a3a48 T _ip_mcast_src c01a39cc T _ip_mforward c01a39c4 T _ip_mrouter_done c01a39b8 T _ip_mrouter_get c01a39ac T _ip_mrouter_set c01a39d4 T _mrt_ioctl c01a098c t add_entry c01a215c T badport_bandlim c01a0e94 t check_ipfw_struct c01a0b5c t del_entry c01a0968 t flush_rule_ptrs c01ae71c T fr_forgetifp c01afbfc T fr_makefrip c01afba8 T fr_verifysrc c01ae84c t frrequest c01ae264 t frzerostats c01a1710 T icmp_error c01a18e8 T icmp_input c01a1ddc t icmp_reflect c01a2014 t icmp_send c01a49ec T in_delayed_cksum c01ad68c t ip_2_ip6_hdr c01a4cdc T ip_ctloutput c01a2f48 t ip_dooptions c01a2ed8 T ip_drain c01a34f4 t ip_forward c01a2e0c t ip_freef c01a5958 T ip_freemoptions c01a119c t ip_fw_ctl c01a15a8 T ip_fw_init c01a5840 t ip_getmoptions c01a221c T ip_init c01a2334 T ip_input c01a4a64 t ip_insertoptions c01a599c t ip_mloopback c01a20f8 t ip_next_mtu c01a4c44 T ip_optcopy c01a3a70 T ip_output c01a5150 t ip_pcbopts c01a2ad8 t ip_reass c01a3980 T ip_rsvp_done c01a3a68 T ip_rsvp_force_done c01a392c T ip_rsvp_init c01a3a5c T ip_rsvp_vif_done c01a3a50 T ip_rsvp_vif_init c01a336c t ip_rtaddr c01a3850 T ip_savecontrol c01a52b8 t ip_setmoptions c01a2e60 T ip_slowtimo c01a3424 T ip_srcroute c01a34ac T ip_stripoptions c01af5d0 T ipfr_fastroute c01a1648 t ipfw_modevent c01a2a80 t ipintr c01a3a34 T ipip_input c01ae0d4 T iplattach c01aede8 T iplclose c01ae1dc T ipldetach c01ae2b8 T iplioctl c01aedcc T iplopen c01aee04 T iplread c01ab8fc T ipsec_hdrsiz_tcp c01a20a0 T iptime c01af5b8 T mbufchainlen c01a0d68 t resetlog_entry c01a615c t rip_abort c01a6060 t rip_attach c01a6190 t rip_bind c01a61e8 t rip_connect c01a5fcc T rip_ctlinput c01a5e58 T rip_ctloutput c01a610c t rip_detach c01a6174 t rip_disconnect c01a5a98 T rip_init c01a5afc T rip_input c01a5cd4 T rip_output c01a62a0 t rip_pcblist c01a624c t rip_send c01a623c t rip_shutdown c01a39e0 T rsvp_input c01a33f0 t save_rte c01af088 T send_icmp_err c01af000 t send_ip c01aee20 T send_reset c01abadc t sysctl_msec_to_ticks c01acacc t tcp6_connect c01ab5b0 T tcp6_ctlinput c01ab364 t tcp6_getcred c01a67d4 T tcp6_input c01ac4b8 t tcp6_usr_accept c01ac118 t tcp6_usr_bind c01ac364 t tcp6_usr_connect c01ac258 t tcp6_usr_listen c01acf04 t tcp_attach c01abb98 T tcp_canceltimers c01abad4 t tcp_cleartaocache c01aacb8 T tcp_close c01ac8b8 t tcp_connect c01ab474 T tcp_ctlinput c01acd30 T tcp_ctloutput c01ad008 t tcp_disconnect c01a8dbc t tcp_dooptions c01aaf38 T tcp_drain c01aac5c T tcp_drop c01ab750 T tcp_drop_syn_sent c01ab2d0 t tcp_getcred c01aba9c T tcp_gettaocache c01aa4cc T tcp_init c01a68f8 T tcp_input c01a913c T tcp_mss c01a94b4 T tcp_mssopt c01ab770 T tcp_mtudisc c01a9510 t tcp_newreno c01aab30 T tcp_newtcpcb c01aafa4 t tcp_notify c01a959c T tcp_output c01aaff0 t tcp_pcblist c01a8fb0 t tcp_pulloutofband c01ab738 T tcp_quench c01a6528 t tcp_reass c01aa74c T tcp_respond c01ab868 T tcp_rtlookup c01ab8a0 T tcp_rtlookup6 c01aa444 T tcp_setpersist c01abb58 T tcp_slowtimo c01aa620 T tcp_template c01abc10 T tcp_timer_2msl c01abbc4 T tcp_timer_delack c01abc8c T tcp_timer_keep c01abd70 T tcp_timer_persist c01abe2c T tcp_timer_rexmt c01ac7dc t tcp_usr_abort c01ac474 t tcp_usr_accept c01ac01c t tcp_usr_attach c01ac0b0 t tcp_usr_bind c01ac2cc t tcp_usr_connect c01ac074 t tcp_usr_detach c01ac434 t tcp_usr_disconnect c01ac1f8 t tcp_usr_listen c01ac564 t tcp_usr_rcvd c01ac820 t tcp_usr_rcvoob c01ac5a4 t tcp_usr_send c01ac4fc t tcp_usr_shutdown c01ad074 t tcp_usrclosed c01a9024 t tcp_xmit_timer c01ade88 t udp_abort c01ad6dc t udp_append c01adec0 t udp_attach c01adf50 t udp_bind c01adf8c t udp_connect c01ad83c T udp_ctlinput c01adffc t udp_detach c01ae030 t udp_disconnect c01adba4 t udp_getcred c01ad0f4 T udp_init c01ad158 T udp_input c01ad7f0 T udp_notify c01adc38 t udp_output c01ad910 t udp_pcblist c01ae080 t udp_send c01ae0b4 T udp_shutdown c01a0c08 t zero_entry (gdb) x/10i 0xc01a44cb 0xc01a44cb : incl 0x28(%edx) 0xc01a44ce : mov 0xffffffcc(%ebp),%eax 0xc01a44d1 : mov 0x18(%eax),%eax 0xc01a44d4 : add %eax,0x38(%edx) 0xc01a44d7 : mov 0x10(%ebp),%ecx 0xc01a44da : pushl (%ecx) 0xc01a44dc : pushl 0xffffffd4(%ebp) 0xc01a44df : pushl 0xffffffcc(%ebp) 0xc01a44e2 : mov 0xffffffbc(%ebp),%ebx 0xc01a44e5 : push %ebx (gdb) -- #include , fm. GnuPG fpr = 6101 9519 9A45 3D44 3BCB 0974 C774 5143 8F26 95B5 Mail message with GPG-KEY in subject to get my public key |&| DAY-RIPE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 12:20:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21BDA37B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:20:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f27KJGH21946; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:19:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: dibble@cc.gatech.edu Cc: kaltorak@quake.com.au, robert@chalmers.com.au, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Is the BSDi CD of 4.2 STABLE or RELEASE ? In-Reply-To: References: <3AA5F3D9.782606A0@quake.com.au> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010307121916M.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 12:19:16 -0800 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 9 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: Dibble Subject: Re: Is the BSDi CD of 4.2 STABLE or RELEASE ? Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 11:19:32 -0500 (EST) > Actually, Walnut Creek *does* put out a CD-ROM of -stable and, I believe, Nope, I can state categorically that we don't. :) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 12:24:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailg.telia.com (mailg.telia.com [194.22.194.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BE537B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:24:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: from d1o913.telia.com (d1o913.telia.com [195.252.44.241]) by mailg.telia.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id VAA00107 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:24:19 +0100 (CET) Received: from ertr1013.student.uu.se (h35n2fls20o913.telia.com [212.181.163.35]) by d1o913.telia.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with SMTP id VAA22927 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:24:03 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 63436 invoked by uid 1001); 7 Mar 2001 20:24:12 -0000 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:24:11 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Kal Torak Cc: FreeBSD-stable , FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: Oh no... Message-ID: <20010307212411.A63107@student.uu.se> Mail-Followup-To: Kal Torak , FreeBSD-stable , FreeBSD-questions References: <3AA5EAE0.C9CEF366@quake.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AA5EAE0.C9CEF366@quake.com.au>; from kaltorak@quake.com.au on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 07:01:36PM +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 07:01:36PM +1100, Kal Torak wrote: > Hiyas... > > I kinda did a fdisk -BI on my main HDD by accident... It killed > all my partitions... I tried to get them back with sysinstall and > the live file system, but I cant mount them and stuff... > > Is there some way I can get my data back? I dont care so much about > the file systems.. But there are some files I would *LOVE* to get > back... > > Any pointers would be great... *IF* you know exactly how large your partitions were and where they started and ended then a bit of work with fdisk/disklabel can restore them. You just create new entries with the same info on the disk as you had before. (It worked for me when I accidentally did a 'dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/ad2' once. The arguments should have been the other way around :-( Luckily the only data that got destroyed before I stopped it was part of an MSDOS partition that didn't contain anything important.) If you don't have and can't figure out that information you have a problem. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 12:29: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay1.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (www.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua [212.111.192.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4882D37B71A for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:28:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fm@astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua) Received: from astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (if-14-13-10M.astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua [10.100.0.14]) by relay1.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A66530492; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:28:49 +0200 (EET) Received: (from fm@localhost) by astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f27KQSe64715; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:26:28 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from fm) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:26:28 +0200 From: "Dmitry A. Yanko" To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: panic, ipfw broken in stable? Message-ID: <20010307222627.A64615@astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua> References: <20010307191526.A60472@astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua> <200103071928.LAA23382@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103071928.LAA23382@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>; from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 11:28:49AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 11:28:49AM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: 0xc01a4486 : mov %ecx,%eax 0xc01a4488 : shr $0x10,%eax 0xc01a448b : lea (%eax,%edx,1),%ecx 0xc01a448e : cmp $0xffff,%ecx 0xc01a4494 : jbe 0xc01a449c 0xc01a4496 : add $0xffff0001,%ecx 0xc01a449c : mov 0xffffffc4(%ebp),%eax 0xc01a449f : not %ecx 0xc01a44a1 : mov %cx,0xa(%eax) 0xc01a44a5 : jmp 0xc01a44c0 0xc01a44a7 : nop 0xc01a44a8 : mov 0xffffffb8(%ebp),%eax 0xc01a44ab : push %eax 0xc01a44ac : pushl 0xffffffcc(%ebp) 0xc01a44af : call 0xc028e3cc 0xc01a44b4 : mov %eax,%edx 0xc01a44b6 : mov 0xffffffc4(%ebp),%eax 0xc01a44b9 : mov %dx,0xa(%eax) 0xc01a44bd : add $0x8,%esp 0xc01a44c0 : test $0x1,%esi 0xc01a44c6 : jne 0xc01a44d7 0xc01a44c8 : mov 0xffffffb0(%ebp),%edx 0xc01a44cb : incl 0x28(%edx) 0xc01a44ce : mov 0xffffffcc(%ebp),%eax -- #include , fm. 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------_=_NextPart_001_01C0A746.A98F6430-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 12:43:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ctonet.it (mail.ctonet.it [212.110.160.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B8637B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:43:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from olgeni@uli.it) Received: from olgeni.localdomain.net (ppp-199.dial3.ctonet.it [212.110.178.199]) by mail.ctonet.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A99BCF3B1 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:43:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from olgeni.localdomain.net (olgeni.localdomain.net [192.168.1.1]) by olgeni.localdomain.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f27Khnf02213 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:43:50 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olgeni@uli.it) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:43:49 +0100 (CET) From: Jimmy Olgeni X-X-Sender: To: Subject: harmless warning message at boot time (/var/run/dev.db) Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I'm running a 4-stable (4/3/2001), and I'm getting a strange warning message at boot time: Checking for core dump: savecore: warning: /var/run/dev.db: No such file or directory ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ savecore: no core dump (I got this from dmesg -a, so the text formatting is a bit different) But dev.db is actually there: -rw-r--r-- 1 root wheel 57344 Mar 7 21:27 dev.db Any clue? -- jimmy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 12:48: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mr1.mailrack1.com (DED-CA-TR-63-85-76-129.omnis.com [63.85.76.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A00C37B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:48:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from blake@npubs.com) Received: blake@npubs.com Reply-To: From: "blake" To: Subject: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000F_01C0A704.C6DD3EF0" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6700 Disposition-Notification-To: "blake" Message-Id: <20010307204803.2A00C37B718@hub.freebsd.org> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:48:03 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C0A704.C6DD3EF0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C0A704.C6DD3EF0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 

------=_NextPart_000_000F_01C0A704.C6DD3EF0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 12:49:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peace.mahoroba.org (peace.calm.imasy.or.jp [202.227.26.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCDB137B71A for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:49:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Received: from localhost (IDENT:hScYE1htyyFVHI0m9MrgqOGtqJuRVPrKaiZkEzrPf4KlXPFZsPdpqJ/p4nSHblFF@localhost [::1]) (authenticated as ume with CRAM-MD5) by peace.mahoroba.org (8.11.3/8.11.3/peace) with ESMTP/inet6 id f27KjT388462; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 05:45:29 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 05:45:28 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20010308.054528.59722369.ume@mahoroba.org> To: jedgar@fxp.org Cc: brucegb@realtime.net, rdm@cfcl.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Temp and fan program From: Hajimu UMEMOTO In-Reply-To: <20010307151115.B79099@peitho.fxp.org> References: <200103072005.OAA46328@sullivan.realtime.net> <20010307151115.B79099@peitho.fxp.org> X-Mailer: xcite1.38> Mew version 1.95b97 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 =?iso-2022-jp?B?KBskQjJWMWMbKEIp?= X-PGP-Public-Key: http://www.imasy.org/~ume/publickey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 0C 53 FC 5D D0 37 91 05 D0 B3 EF 36 9B 6A BC X-URL: http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ X-OS: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:11:15 -0500 >>>>> Chris Faulhaber said: > I believe wmlmmon is lmmon in a Gnome(GTK) window. jedgar> Ummm, no. :) It is a windowmaker dock app... GKrellM is GTK+ based monitor that can display fan and temperature. And, there is Gnome'fy plug-in. -- Hajimu UMEMOTO @ Internet Mutual Aid Society Yokohama, Japan ume@mahoroba.org ume@bisd.hitachi.co.jp ume@{,jp.}FreeBSD.org http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 12:54:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.ctonet.it (mail.ctonet.it [212.110.160.100]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A938937B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 12:54:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from olgeni@uli.it) Received: from olgeni.localdomain.net (ppp-199.dial3.ctonet.it [212.110.178.199]) by mail.ctonet.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EED4CF3B1 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:54:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from olgeni.localdomain.net (olgeni.localdomain.net [192.168.1.1]) by olgeni.localdomain.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f27KtJf02680 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:55:20 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from olgeni@uli.it) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:55:19 +0100 (CET) From: Jimmy Olgeni X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: harmless warning message at boot time (/var/run/dev.db) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Checking for core dump: > savecore: > warning: /var/run/dev.db: No such file or directory > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ aieee! I just saw Jordan's commit related to this warning... it's good when answers arrive in the mailbox while you are typing the question :) -- jimmy To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 13: 1:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7927A37B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:01:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8AF7966ED9; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:01:47 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:01:47 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Claude Buisson Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf Message-ID: <20010307130147.A43079@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <20010307025918.A37732@mollari.cthul.hu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from ubc@paris.framatome.fr on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 12:28:29PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 12:28:29PM +0100, Claude Buisson wrote: > given that the optimization MUST be activated by a CPUTYPE=3DXXX in > the user's /etc/make.conf, what is the use of NO_CPU_FLAGS ?=20 > just needing 2 lines instead of 0 in /etc/make.conf ? Because you may want OpenSSL ASM optimizations, but not want to compile the entire world with -march. Or, perhaps you want to temporarily override the adding of -march to CFLAGS while you compile something. Kris --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pqG6Wry0BWjoQKURAgS5AJ9/uoHcycNPoetyjgCl59h/7ydo4wCfbWMm KGVxdy9xzdlXW+YisskqSOo= =Pcec -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --TB36FDmn/VVEgNH/-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 13: 9:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from peak.mountin.net (peak.mountin.net [207.227.119.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E36B37B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:09:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by peak.mountin.net (8.9.1/8.9.1) id PAA12601; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:09:34 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jeff-ml@mountin.net) Received: from dial-65.max1.wa.cyberlynk.net(207.227.118.65) by peak.mountin.net via smap (V1.3) id sma012572; Wed Mar 7 15:08:47 2001 Message-Id: <4.3.2.20010307145055.02c2f4a0@207.227.119.2> X-Sender: jeff-ml@207.227.119.2 X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3 Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 15:05:44 -0600 To: rdmurphy@vt.edu From: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org In-Reply-To: <15014.35964.607904.787071@knock.econ.vt.edu> References: <01C0A6F1.C26E6DC0.ggross@symark.com> <200103071856.f27Iuxl71513@earth.backplane.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 02:31 PM 3/7/01 -0500, Russell D. Murphy Jr. wrote: >Another datapoint. . . > >I changed make.conf on, I believe, Dec. 6: > > # CFLAGS= -O -pipe > CFLAGS= -O -pipe -mcpu=pentiumpro -march=pentiumpro > >(There's also: > > COPTFLAGS= -O -pipe) > >(I gather that -mcpu is redundant.) I re-cvsup, buildworld, and >installworld (and kernel. . .) roughly weekly (7 times, by my logs). >Until the CPUTYPE discussion came up, I had forgotten I was trying out >-march; everything seems to be working fine. The machine is: The -mcpu is redundant -march includes it. Will also reiterate that combining -march with optimization levels other than -O (-O2, -O3, -Os) does tend to break more often than not. Using -mcpu is much less problematic. Will be curious to see using -O2 for world and kernel builds will break with the new flags. Matt may have given up on it, but it has been working (again) for months now. Keep expecting it to break, which these changes most likely will. The text in make.conf is sufficient, but at first the name of the flag (CPUTYPE) made me think more of -mcpu than -march. At least the gcc flag is on the same line and it should not matter. Those tweaking the flags are on there own and should be familiar the mechanisms involved. Am also curious if some port builds might be affected. Jeff Mountin - jeff@mountin.net Systems/Network Administrator FreeBSD - the power to serve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 13:11:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADA1E37B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:11:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 75E9566E1B; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:11:17 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:11:17 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Attila Nagy Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Broken 4.3-BETA? Message-ID: <20010307131117.A43258@mollari.cthul.hu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from bra@fsn.hu on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 08:21:15PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 08:21:15PM +0100, Attila Nagy wrote: > It seems that it happens because of UNIONFS. If I start the FTPD-jail with > a non UNIONFS FTP spool directory everything is OK. (I've tried this with > mounting a spare UFS partition) Unionfs is known to be broken, and the warning in the manpage really couldn't be more clear about this. As long as you aren't seeing any ftpd problems without unionfs, everything is as expected. Kris --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pqP1Wry0BWjoQKURAqOoAKDJ1Ax7Qpp6ADFgKtH751UfN+2iuACePl1v xQDD0a6YX4ri1Q1Aw6r02OQ= =6ABU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --OXfL5xGRrasGEqWY-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 13:16: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from equinox.datasyrge.net (ool-18ba2d21.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.45.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D064D37B71A for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:16:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jslivko@datasyrge.net) Received: from localhost (jslivko@localhost) by equinox.datasyrge.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA04511; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:20:13 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:20:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: deposito@eastmail.com Cc: abuse@eastmail.com, FreeBSD Stable Mailing List Subject: Re: REGALE UN DOMINIO O REGISTRE EL SUYO In-Reply-To: <20010307120206.2C2A937B718@hub.freebsd.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=X-UNKNOWN Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Attention: Please deal with this spammer on your system/network as it is impacting on the email boxes of several users on the list to which this message was sent. I would appreciate a reply back.=20 Thank You, Jonathan M. 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Slivko | | Global IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Networks | | Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Svces. | | Webpage: http://jslivko.datasyrge.net/ | | | |"Microsoft, is that some kind of toilet paper? | |"FreeeBSD: The Power to Serve -- www.freebsd.org" | |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 13:18:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B30EA37B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:18:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id EBC8D66E1B; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:18:38 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 13:18:38 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: "Jeffrey J. Mountin" Cc: rdmurphy@vt.edu, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf Message-ID: <20010307131838.B43258@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <01C0A6F1.C26E6DC0.ggross@symark.com> <200103071856.f27Iuxl71513@earth.backplane.com> <15014.35964.607904.787071@knock.econ.vt.edu> <4.3.2.20010307145055.02c2f4a0@207.227.119.2> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="E39vaYmALEf/7YXx" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <4.3.2.20010307145055.02c2f4a0@207.227.119.2>; from jeff-ml@mountin.net on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 03:05:44PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --E39vaYmALEf/7YXx Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 03:05:44PM -0600, Jeffrey J. Mountin wrote: > Will be curious to see using -O2 for world and kernel builds will break= =20 > with the new flags. Matt may have given up on it, but it has been workin= g=20 > (again) for months now. Keep expecting it to break, which these changes= =20 > most likely will. Just to be perfectly clear here, CPUTYPE is makefile code only, it doesn't change gcc in any way. All it does is add settings to CFLAGS and activate asm code in OpenSSL -- therefore if -march worked for you before, it will continue to work into the future. > Am also curious if some port builds might be affected. There are some ports which have asm code which will be (but are not currently) tied to CPUTYPE. e.g. mpg123, john, and at least half a dozen others. Kris --E39vaYmALEf/7YXx Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6pqWuWry0BWjoQKURArmUAJ4+9rDB7YM9H0jmebHyhocRD1vu0wCg4EpE 7YI8Je9S8zi/4UyXuWAvDUc= =hY9K -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --E39vaYmALEf/7YXx-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 15:16:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CC5C437B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:16:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 76935 invoked by uid 100); 7 Mar 2001 23:16:28 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15014.49484.258132.704698@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:16:28 -0600 To: Hajimu UMEMOTO Cc: jedgar@fxp.org, brucegb@realtime.net, rdm@cfcl.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Temp and fan program In-Reply-To: <20010308.054528.59722369.ume@mahoroba.org> References: <200103072005.OAA46328@sullivan.realtime.net> <20010307151115.B79099@peitho.fxp.org> <20010308.054528.59722369.ume@mahoroba.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.89 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hajimu UMEMOTO types: > >>>>> On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:11:15 -0500 > >>>>> Chris Faulhaber said: > > I believe wmlmmon is lmmon in a Gnome(GTK) window. > jedgar> Ummm, no. :) It is a windowmaker dock app... > > GKrellM is GTK+ based monitor that can display fan and temperature. > And, there is Gnome'fy plug-in. I've got gkrellm setup for voltages - it even manages to display Vcore for both CPUs on my SMP board. I don't see any way to enable temperatures. In fact, the only temp in the setup for sensors is a generic temp. Pointers or other clues? Thanx, ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:18:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 77034 invoked by uid 100); 7 Mar 2001 23:18:29 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15014.49605.434564.15058@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:18:29 -0600 To: Erik Trulsson Cc: Kal Torak , FreeBSD-stable , FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: Oh no... In-Reply-To: <20010307212411.A63107@student.uu.se> References: <3AA5EAE0.C9CEF366@quake.com.au> <20010307212411.A63107@student.uu.se> X-Mailer: VM 6.89 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Erik Trulsson types: > On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 07:01:36PM +1100, Kal Torak wrote: > > Hiyas... > > > > I kinda did a fdisk -BI on my main HDD by accident... It killed > > all my partitions... I tried to get them back with sysinstall and > > the live file system, but I cant mount them and stuff... > > > > Is there some way I can get my data back? I dont care so much about > > the file systems.. But there are some files I would *LOVE* to get > > back... > > > > Any pointers would be great... > > *IF* you know exactly how large your partitions were and where they started > and ended then a bit of work with fdisk/disklabel can restore them. > You just create new entries with the same info on the disk as you had before. This is why you should print a copy of the fdisk and disklabel for the relevant disks, and save them with your backups. At one point, there was a handbook entry discussing this, but I couldn't find it last time I looked. I've had BIOSes overwrite my disklabel on DD disks. Having the information printed and ready saved my ass. http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 15:31: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gdmckee.local (pc-62-30-209-11-so.blueyonder.co.uk [62.30.209.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C641E37B718; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:30:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gdmckee.com) Received: from [192.168.0.5] (helo=p300) by gdmckee.local with smtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 14anNY-0001Rs-00; Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:30:00 +0000 Message-ID: <000701c0a75e$96caa040$0500a8c0@gdmckee.local> From: "G D McKee" To: "Mike Meyer" , "Hajimu UMEMOTO" Cc: , , , , "freebsd-questions" References: <200103072005.OAA46328@sullivan.realtime.net><20010307151115.B79099@peitho.fxp.org><20010308.054528.59722369.ume@mahoroba.org> <15014.49484.258132.704698@guru.mired.org> Subject: Re: Temp and fan program Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 23:30:26 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi Is there a shell prompt based fan monitor around as I don't have an X-Server installed? Gordon ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Meyer" To: "Hajimu UMEMOTO" Cc: ; ; ; Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 11:16 PM Subject: Re: Temp and fan program > Hajimu UMEMOTO types: > > >>>>> On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:11:15 -0500 > > >>>>> Chris Faulhaber said: > > > I believe wmlmmon is lmmon in a Gnome(GTK) window. > > jedgar> Ummm, no. :) It is a windowmaker dock app... > > > > GKrellM is GTK+ based monitor that can display fan and temperature. > > And, there is Gnome'fy plug-in. > > I've got gkrellm setup for voltages - it even manages to display Vcore > for both CPUs on my SMP board. I don't see any way to enable > temperatures. In fact, the only temp in the setup for sensors is a > generic temp. Pointers or other clues? > > Thanx, > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 15:34:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-1242.charter-stl.com [24.217.116.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D885537B71C for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:34:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id CA9BAA8C9; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:34:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:34:39 -0600 From: Andrew Hesford To: FreeBSD-stable Subject: Typo in pkg_check(1) manpage Message-ID: <20010307173439.A77792@cec.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG A minor error, to be sure, but still something that can be corrected. When I call up the manpage for pkg_check(1), it calls up the pkg_sign(1) manpage, which describes usage for both programs. The problem is under the "NAME" section, where it says: "pkg_sign, check_sign - handle package signatures" However, it ought to read: "pkg_sign, pkg_check - handle package signatures" The program check_sign doesn't even come on my system. :) -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 15:35:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82B7137B71A for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:35:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from hornet.unixfreak.org (hornet [63.198.170.140]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 553013E0C; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:35:52 -0800 (PST) To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Kal Torak , FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: Security Level in Sysinstall In-Reply-To: <20010307031052.A38464@mollari.cthul.hu>; from kris@obsecurity.org on "Wed, 7 Mar 2001 03:10:52 -0800" Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 15:35:52 -0800 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010307233552.553013E0C@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway writes: > Check the -security archives for about 3 or 4 weeks ago -- someone > posted a big list of all of the things which the security setting in > sysinstall does, which will hopefully make its way into the Official > Documentation at some point. I've submitted a PR (25537) to get something like that added to sysinstall's help system (pressing "F1"), but noone's looked at it yet :-/. It answers this question and possibly many others that have come up in the last few weeks. Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 15:41:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 358F137B71B for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:41:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 77645 invoked by uid 100); 7 Mar 2001 23:41:50 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15014.51006.193106.504006@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:41:50 -0600 To: Dima Dorfman Cc: Kris Kennaway , Kal Torak , FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: Security Level in Sysinstall In-Reply-To: <20010307233552.553013E0C@bazooka.unixfreak.org> References: <20010307031052.A38464@mollari.cthul.hu> <20010307233552.553013E0C@bazooka.unixfreak.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.89 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dima Dorfman types: > Kris Kennaway writes: > > Check the -security archives for about 3 or 4 weeks ago -- someone > > posted a big list of all of the things which the security setting in > > sysinstall does, which will hopefully make its way into the Official > > Documentation at some point. > I've submitted a PR (25537) to get something like that added to > sysinstall's help system (pressing "F1"), but noone's looked at it yet > :-/. It answers this question and possibly many others that have come > up in the last few weeks. I was thinking about bundling it up as a FAQ entry - would that still be useful? Do we want a place unconnected with the code documenting it? http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 15:42:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ptavv.es.net (ptavv.es.net [198.128.4.29]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 197F837B718; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:42:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oberman@ptavv.es.net) Received: from ptavv.es.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ptavv.es.net (8.10.1/8.10.1) with ESMTP id f27Nfxs18289; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:41:59 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103072341.f27Nfxs18289@ptavv.es.net> To: "G D McKee" Cc: "Mike Meyer" , "Hajimu UMEMOTO" , jedgar@fxp.org, brucegb@realtime.net, rdm@cfcl.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, "freebsd-questions" Subject: Re: Temp and fan program In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 07 Mar 2001 23:30:26 GMT." <000701c0a75e$96caa040$0500a8c0@gdmckee.local> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 15:41:59 -0800 From: "Kevin Oberman" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Try healthd. R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer Energy Sciences Network (ESnet) Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab) E-mail: oberman@es.net Phone: +1 510 486-8634 > From: "G D McKee" > Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 23:30:26 -0000 > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > > Hi > > Is there a shell prompt based fan monitor around as I don't have an X-Server > installed? > > Gordon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Meyer" > To: "Hajimu UMEMOTO" > Cc: ; ; ; > > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 11:16 PM > Subject: Re: Temp and fan program > > > > Hajimu UMEMOTO types: > > > >>>>> On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:11:15 -0500 > > > >>>>> Chris Faulhaber said: > > > > I believe wmlmmon is lmmon in a Gnome(GTK) window. > > > jedgar> Ummm, no. :) It is a windowmaker dock app... > > > > > > GKrellM is GTK+ based monitor that can display fan and temperature. > > > And, there is Gnome'fy plug-in. > > > > I've got gkrellm setup for voltages - it even manages to display Vcore > > for both CPUs on my SMP board. I don't see any way to enable > > temperatures. In fact, the only temp in the setup for sensors is a > > generic temp. Pointers or other clues? > > > > Thanx, > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 15:44:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FCA137B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:44:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 955FA66EDA; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:44:08 -0800 (PST) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:44:08 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Mike Meyer Cc: Dima Dorfman , Kris Kennaway , Kal Torak , FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: Security Level in Sysinstall Message-ID: <20010307154408.A45006@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <20010307031052.A38464@mollari.cthul.hu> <20010307233552.553013E0C@bazooka.unixfreak.org> <15014.51006.193106.504006@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KsGdsel6WgEHnImy" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15014.51006.193106.504006@guru.mired.org>; from mwm@mired.org on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 05:41:50PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 05:41:50PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: > Dima Dorfman types: > > Kris Kennaway writes: > > > Check the -security archives for about 3 or 4 weeks ago -- someone > > > posted a big list of all of the things which the security setting in > > > sysinstall does, which will hopefully make its way into the Official > > > Documentation at some point. > > I've submitted a PR (25537) to get something like that added to > > sysinstall's help system (pressing "F1"), but noone's looked at it yet > > :-/. It answers this question and possibly many others that have come > > up in the last few weeks. >=20 > I was thinking about bundling it up as a FAQ entry - would that still > be useful? Do we want a place unconnected with the code documenting it? Certainly can't hurt for post-install reference. Jordan was also talking about documenting it in sysinstall. Kris --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6psfHWry0BWjoQKURAtjUAKC3XczIQXwh2qz1Zt1buy/BxeX6OgCg3ftb Wz00QQwUlWXoA9lehdZIRi4= =MjFr -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KsGdsel6WgEHnImy-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 15:56:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD99B37B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:56:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from hornet.unixfreak.org (hornet [63.198.170.140]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F0F3E09; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:56:35 -0800 (PST) To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Mike Meyer , Kal Torak , FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: Security Level in Sysinstall In-Reply-To: <20010307154408.A45006@mollari.cthul.hu>; from kris@obsecurity.org on "Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:44:08 -0800" Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 15:56:35 -0800 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010307235635.A3F0F3E09@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kris Kennaway writes: > On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 05:41:50PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: > > Dima Dorfman types: > > > I've submitted a PR (25537) to get something like that added to > > > sysinstall's help system (pressing "F1"), but noone's looked at it yet > > > :-/. It answers this question and possibly many others that have come > > > up in the last few weeks. > > > > I was thinking about bundling it up as a FAQ entry - would that still > > be useful? Do we want a place unconnected with the code documenting it? > > Certainly can't hurt for post-install reference. Jordan was also > talking about documenting it in sysinstall. Sysinstall seems like the logical place for it. It's much easier to push "F1" than to go searching through the FAQ for it. Also, remember that some people don't have more than one computer, and thus can't access the web-based documentation while they're in sysinstall; they've probably printed the installation instructions from the handbook, but how many people print the entire FAQ (it's over 10000 lines in SGML; I imagine it's at least half of that rendered) before they proceed to install FreeBSD? That said, an FAQ entry still can't hurt. I don't know if it should use the same text as the sysinstall help (if that goes in). Mike, do you want to do it, or should I (if you do, at least look at the PR for ideas of what to put there). Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 16: 7:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 56EBC37B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:07:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 78498 invoked by uid 100); 8 Mar 2001 00:07:32 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15014.52548.792343.819247@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:07:32 -0600 To: Dima Dorfman Cc: Kris Kennaway , Mike Meyer , Kal Torak , FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: Security Level in Sysinstall In-Reply-To: <20010307235635.A3F0F3E09@bazooka.unixfreak.org> References: <20010307154408.A45006@mollari.cthul.hu> <20010307235635.A3F0F3E09@bazooka.unixfreak.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.89 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dima Dorfman types: > Kris Kennaway writes: > > On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 05:41:50PM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: > > > Dima Dorfman types: > > > > I've submitted a PR (25537) to get something like that added to > > > > sysinstall's help system (pressing "F1"), but noone's looked at it yet > > > > :-/. It answers this question and possibly many others that have come > > > > up in the last few weeks. > > > I was thinking about bundling it up as a FAQ entry - would that still > > > be useful? Do we want a place unconnected with the code documenting it? > > Certainly can't hurt for post-install reference. Jordan was also > > talking about documenting it in sysinstall. > > Sysinstall seems like the logical place for it. It's much easier to > push "F1" than to go searching through the FAQ for it. Also, remember > that some people don't have more than one computer, and thus can't > access the web-based documentation while they're in sysinstall; > they've probably printed the installation instructions from the > handbook, but how many people print the entire FAQ (it's over 10000 > lines in SGML; I imagine it's at least half of that rendered) before > they proceed to install FreeBSD? > > That said, an FAQ entry still can't hurt. I don't know if it should > use the same text as the sysinstall help (if that goes in). Mike, do > you want to do it, or should I (if you do, at least look at the PR for > ideas of what to put there). > Yup - if you want to figure out what you did during the install, the FAQ seems like a more logical place to look than sysinstall. At least to me. It might make sense to recommend checking sysinstall as a possibly more up-to-date source of info as well. Well, I'm always willing to let someone else do work if they're willing. If you want me to do it, could you provide a URL for the PR again? http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 16:13:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.unixathome.org (ns1.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67CFF37B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:13:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.int.nz.freebsd.org [192.168.0.99]) by ns1.unixathome.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f280DGI69615; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:13:16 +1300 (NZDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Message-Id: <200103080013.f280DGI69615@ns1.unixathome.org> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: novice in training To: Mike Meyer Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:13:15 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: Security Level in Sysinstall Reply-To: dan@langille.org Cc: FreeBSD-stable In-reply-to: <15014.52548.792343.819247@guru.mired.org> References: <20010307235635.A3F0F3E09@bazooka.unixfreak.org> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 7 Mar 2001, at 18:07, Mike Meyer wrote: > Yup - if you want to figure out what you did during the install, the > FAQ seems like a more logical place to look than sysinstall. At least > to me. It might make sense to recommend checking sysinstall as a > possibly more up-to-date source of info as well. > > Well, I'm always willing to let someone else do work if they're > willing. If you want me to do it, could you provide a URL for the PR > again? I encourage you to proceed with this documentation. It should be in the FAQ. There's no reason why it can't be in both sysinstall and the FAQ. Once you put it in the FAQ, whoever maintains sysinstall (anyone remember who that odd sheep chasing person is?) can include it. That'll be easier if they already have the FAQ as a starting point. -- Dan Langille pgpkey - finger dan@unixathome.org | http://unixathome.org/finger.php got any work? I'm looking for some. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 16:34:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED2937B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:34:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from hornet.unixfreak.org (hornet [63.198.170.140]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDD4B3E0C; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 16:34:10 -0800 (PST) To: Mike Meyer Cc: Kris Kennaway , Kal Torak , FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: Security Level in Sysinstall In-Reply-To: <15014.52548.792343.819247@guru.mired.org>; from mwm@mired.org on "Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:07:32 -0600" Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 16:34:10 -0800 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010308003410.EDD4B3E0C@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Meyer writes: > Dima Dorfman types: > > Sysinstall seems like the logical place for it. It's much easier to > > push "F1" than to go searching through the FAQ for it. Also, remember > > that some people don't have more than one computer, and thus can't > > access the web-based documentation while they're in sysinstall; > > they've probably printed the installation instructions from the > > handbook, but how many people print the entire FAQ (it's over 10000 > > lines in SGML; I imagine it's at least half of that rendered) before > > they proceed to install FreeBSD? > > > > That said, an FAQ entry still can't hurt. I don't know if it should > > use the same text as the sysinstall help (if that goes in). Mike, do > > you want to do it, or should I (if you do, at least look at the PR for > > ideas of what to put there). > > > > Yup - if you want to figure out what you did during the install, the > FAQ seems like a more logical place to look than sysinstall. At least > to me. It might make sense to recommend checking sysinstall as a > possibly more up-to-date source of info as well. > > Well, I'm always willing to let someone else do work if they're > willing. I'll do it later today. > [...] If you want me to do it, could you provide a URL for the PR > again? If you're still interested: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25537 Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 17:22:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from equinox.datasyrge.net (ool-18ba2d21.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.45.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3876C37B718; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:22:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jslivko@datasyrge.net) Received: from localhost (jslivko@localhost) by equinox.datasyrge.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA09779; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:24:56 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:24:55 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: G D McKee Cc: Mike Meyer , Hajimu UMEMOTO , jedgar@fxp.org, brucegb@realtime.net, rdm@cfcl.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Temp and fan program In-Reply-To: <000701c0a75e$96caa040$0500a8c0@gdmckee.local> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gordon, Yes, it's called "healthd", you can find it in ports. However, it just measures temperature, etc. -- Jonathan M. Slivko On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, G D McKee wrote: > Hi > > Is there a shell prompt based fan monitor around as I don't have an X-Server > installed? > > Gordon > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mike Meyer" > To: "Hajimu UMEMOTO" > Cc: ; ; ; > > Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2001 11:16 PM > Subject: Re: Temp and fan program > > > > Hajimu UMEMOTO types: > > > >>>>> On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:11:15 -0500 > > > >>>>> Chris Faulhaber said: > > > > I believe wmlmmon is lmmon in a Gnome(GTK) window. > > > jedgar> Ummm, no. :) It is a windowmaker dock app... > > > > > > GKrellM is GTK+ based monitor that can display fan and temperature. > > > And, there is Gnome'fy plug-in. > > > > I've got gkrellm setup for voltages - it even manages to display Vcore > > for both CPUs on my SMP board. I don't see any way to enable > > temperatures. In fact, the only temp in the setup for sensors is a > > generic temp. Pointers or other clues? > > > > Thanx, > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Jonathan M. Slivko | | Global IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Networks | | Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Svces. | | Webpage: http://jslivko.datasyrge.net/ | | | |"Microsoft, is that some kind of toilet paper? | |"FreeeBSD: The Power to Serve -- www.freebsd.org" | |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 17:22:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmls20.mediaone.net (chmls20.mediaone.net [24.147.1.156]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE41337B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:22:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tpunder@mediaone.net) Received: from toddpc (medoonga@h0000e85749b9.ne.mediaone.net [66.31.205.167]) by chmls20.mediaone.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f281Mb604885 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:22:37 -0500 (EST) From: "Todd Punderson" To: Subject: RE: Problem with 4.2-STABLE and dc0 Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:23:25 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Slight correction with this. I am at 4.3-BETA not 4.2-STABLE and am getting this. Here is my kernel config and some other information that may help. Thanks. Todd # # SMPKERNEL -- Generic kernel configuration file for FreeBSD/i386 # # For more information on this file, please read the handbook section on # Kernel Configuration Files: # # http://www.FreeBSD.org/handbook/kernelconfig-config.html # # The handbook is also available locally in /usr/share/doc/handbook # if you've installed the doc distribution, otherwise always see the # FreeBSD World Wide Web server (http://www.FreeBSD.org/) for the # latest information. # # An exhaustive list of options and more detailed explanations of the # device lines is also present in the ./LINT configuration file. If you are # in doubt as to the purpose or necessity of a line, check first in LINT. # # $FreeBSD: src/sys/i386/conf/SMPKERNEL,v 1.246.2.21 2001/01/12 23:45:14 scottl Exp $ machine i386 cpu I686_CPU ident SMPKERNEL maxusers 64 #makeoptions DEBUG=-g #Build kernel with gdb(1) debug symbols #options GPL_MATH_EMULATE #Support for x87 emulation options INET #InterNETworking options INET6 #IPv6 communications protocols options FFS #Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT #FFS usable as root device [keep this!] options SOFTUPDATES #Enable FFS soft updates support #options MFS #Memory Filesystem #options MD_ROOT #MD is a potential root device #options NFS #Network Filesystem #options NFS_ROOT #NFS usable as root device, NFS required #options MSDOSFS #MSDOS Filesystem options CD9660 #ISO 9660 Filesystem #options CD9660_ROOT #CD-ROM usable as root, CD9660 required options PROCFS #Process filesystem options COMPAT_43 #Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options SCSI_DELAY=15000 #Delay (in ms) before probing SCSI options UCONSOLE #Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG #boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG #visual boot -c editor options KTRACE #ktrace(1) support options SYSVSHM #SYSV-style shared memory options SYSVMSG #SYSV-style message queues options SYSVSEM #SYSV-style semaphores options P1003_1B #Posix P1003_1B real-time extensions options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options ICMP_BANDLIM #Rate limit bad replies options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # install a CDEV entry in /dev options QUOTA # To make an SMP kernel, the next two are needed options SMP # Symmetric MultiProcessor Kernel options APIC_IO # Symmetric (APIC) I/O device isa #device eisa device pci # Floppy drives device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 device fd1 at fdc0 drive 1 # ATA and ATAPI devices #device ata0 at isa? port IO_WD1 irq 14 #device ata1 at isa? port IO_WD2 irq 15 device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives #device atapifd # ATAPI floppy drives #device atapist # ATAPI tape drives options ATA_STATIC_ID #Static device numbering #options ATA_ENABLE_ATAPI_DMA #Enable DMA on ATAPI devices # SCSI Controllers #device ahb # EISA AHA1742 family #device ahc # AHA2940 and onboard AIC7xxx devices #device amd # AMD 53C974 (Teckram DC-390(T)) #device isp # Qlogic family #device ncr # NCR/Symbios Logic #device sym # NCR/Symbios Logic (newer chipsets) #options SYM_SETUP_LP_PROBE_MAP=0x40 # Allow ncr to attach legacy NCR devices when # both sym and ncr are configured #device adv0 at isa? #device adw #device bt0 at isa? #device aha0 at isa? #device aic0 at isa? #device ncv # NCR 53C500 #device nsp # Workbit Ninja SCSI-3 #device stg # TMC 18C30/18C50 # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required) #device da # Direct Access (disks) #device sa # Sequential Access (tape etc) #device cd # CD #device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) # RAID controllers interfaced to the SCSI subsystem #device asr # DPT SmartRAID V, VI and Adaptec SCSI RAID #device dpt # DPT Smartcache - See LINT for options! #device mly # Mylex AcceleRAID/eXtremeRAID # RAID controllers #device aac # Adaptec FSA RAID, Dell PERC2/PERC3 #device ida # Compaq Smart RAID #device amr # AMI MegaRAID #device mlx # Mylex DAC960 family #device twe # 3ware Escalade # atkbdc0 controls both the keyboard and the PS/2 mouse device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 device vga0 at isa? # splash screen/screen saver pseudo-device splash # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? flags 0x100 # Enable this and PCVT_FREEBSD for pcvt vt220 compatible console driver #device vt0 at isa? #options XSERVER # support for X server on a vt console #options FAT_CURSOR # start with block cursor # If you have a ThinkPAD, uncomment this along with the rest of the PCVT lines #options PCVT_SCANSET=2 # IBM keyboards are non-std # Floating point support - do not disable. device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Power management support (see LINT for more options) device apm0 at nexus? disable flags 0x20 # Advanced Power Management # PCCARD (PCMCIA) support #device card #device pcic0 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 #device pcic1 at isa? irq 0 port 0x3e2 iomem 0xd4000 disable # Serial (COM) ports device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 device sio2 at isa? disable port IO_COM3 irq 5 device sio3 at isa? disable port IO_COM4 irq 9 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer #device plip # TCP/IP over parallel #device ppi # Parallel port interface device #device vpo # Requires scbus and da # PCI Ethernet NICs. #device de # DEC/Intel DC21x4x (``Tulip'') #device fxp # Intel EtherExpress PRO/100B (82557, 82558) #device tx # SMC 9432TX (83c170 ``EPIC'') #device vx # 3Com 3c590, 3c595 (``Vortex'') #device wx # Intel Gigabit Ethernet Card (``Wiseman'') # PCI Ethernet NICs that use the common MII bus controller code. # NOTE: Be sure to keep the 'device miibus' line in order to use these NICs! device miibus # MII bus support device dc # DEC/Intel 21143 and various workalikes #device pcn # AMD Am79C79x PCI 10/100 NICs #device rl # RealTek 8129/8139 #device sf # Adaptec AIC-6915 (``Starfire'') #device sis # Silicon Integrated Systems SiS 900/SiS 7016 #device ste # Sundance ST201 (D-Link DFE-550TX) #device tl # Texas Instruments ThunderLAN #device vr # VIA Rhine, Rhine II #device wb # Winbond W89C840F #device xl # 3Com 3c90x (``Boomerang'', ``Cyclone'') # ISA Ethernet NICs. device ed0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 iomem 0xd8000 #device ex #device ep #device fe0 at isa? port 0x300 # WaveLAN/IEEE 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the WaveLAN/IEEE really # exists only as a PCMCIA device, so there is no ISA attatement needed # and resources will always be dynamically assigned by the pccard code. #device wi # Aironet 4500/4800 802.11 wireless NICs. Note: the declaration below will # work for PCMCIA and PCI cards, as well as ISA cards set to ISA PnP # mode (the factory default). If you set the switches on your ISA # card for a manually chosen I/O address and IRQ, you must specify # those paremeters here. #device an # Xircom Ethernet #device xe # The probe order of these is presently determined by i386/isa/isa_compat.c. #device ie0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 iomem 0xd0000 #device le0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 5 iomem 0xd0000 #device lnc0 at isa? port 0x280 irq 10 drq 0 #device cs0 at isa? port 0x300 #device sn0 at isa? port 0x300 irq 10 # Pseudo devices - the number indicates how many units to allocated. pseudo-device loop # Network loopback pseudo-device ether # Ethernet support #pseudo-device sl 1 # Kernel SLIP pseudo-device ppp 1 # Kernel PPP pseudo-device tun # Packet tunnel. pseudo-device pty # Pseudo-ttys (telnet etc) pseudo-device md # Memory "disks" pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) options IPFIREWALL options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE_LIMIT=100 #options IPFIREWALL_DEFAULT_TO_ACCEPT options IPDIVERT # The `bpf' pseudo-device enables the Berkeley Packet Filter. # Be aware of the administrative consequences of enabling this! pseudo-device bpf #Berkeley packet filter # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device usb # USB Bus (required) device ugen # Generic device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" device ukbd # Keyboard device ulpt # Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device ums # Mouse device uscanner # Scanners # USB Ethernet, requires mii device aue # ADMtek USB ethernet device cue # CATC USB ethernet device kue # Kawasaki LSI USB ethernet dmesg.today: Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #0: Tue Mar 6 00:23:07 EST 2001 root@todd-server.doonga.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMPKERNEL Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (350.80-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x651 Stepping = 1 Features=0x183fbff real memory = 268435456 (262144K bytes) config> di sn0 config> di lnc0 config> di ie0 config> di fe0 config> di cs0 config> q avail memory = 257925120 (251880K bytes) Programming 24 pins in IOAPIC #0 IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 -> irq 0 IOAPIC #0 intpin 16 -> irq 10 IOAPIC #0 intpin 19 -> irq 11 FreeBSD/SMP: Multiprocessor motherboard cpu0 (BSP): apic id: 0, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 cpu1 (AP): apic id: 1, version: 0x00040011, at 0xfee00000 io0 (APIC): apic id: 2, version: 0x00170011, at 0xfec00000 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0357000. Preloaded userconfig_script "/boot/kernel.conf" at 0xc035709c. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib1: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib1 pci1: at 0.0 irq 10 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xffa0-0xffaf at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xef80-0xef9f irq 11 at device 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: Intel UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered Timecounter "PIIX" frequency 3579545 Hz chip1: port 0x440-0x44f at device 7.3 on pci0 ed0: port 0xef40-0xef5f irq 10 at device 16.0 on pci0 ed0: address 00:00:e8:57:49:b9, type NE2000 (16 bit) dc0: <82c169 PNIC 10/100BaseTX> port 0xe800-0xe8ff mem 0xfebf7f00-0xfebf7fff irq 11 at device 19.0 on pci0 dc0: Ethernet address: 00:a0:cc:61:08:0d miibus0: on dc0 ukphy0: on miibus0 ukphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model MouseMan+, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port APIC_IO: Testing 8254 interrupt delivery APIC_IO: routing 8254 via IOAPIC #0 intpin 2 IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, default to deny, logging limited to 100 packets/entry by default SMP: AP CPU #1 Launched! ad0: 3098MB [6296/16/63] at ata0-master WDMA2 ad1: 6149MB [13328/15/63] at ata0-slave UDMA33 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master using PIO3 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a dc0: failed to force tx and rx to idle state dc0: failed to force tx and rx to idle state dc0: failed to force tx and rx to idle state uname: FreeBSD todd-server.doonga.net 4.3-BETA FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #1: Tue Mar 6 09:27:49 EST 2001 root@todd-server.doonga.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SMPKERNEL i386 ifconfig: ed0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet6 fe80::200:e8ff:fe57:49b9%ed0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x1 inet 66.31.205.167 netmask 0xfffffc00 broadcast 66.31.207.255 ether 00:00:e8:57:49:b9 dc0: flags=8843 mtu 1500 inet 192.168.0.1 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 192.168.0.255 inet6 fe80::2a0:ccff:fe61:80d%dc0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x2 ether 00:a0:cc:61:08:0d media: autoselect (100baseTX ) status: active supported media: autoselect 100baseTX 100baseTX 10baseT/UTP 10baseT/UTP none lo0: flags=8049 mtu 16384 inet6 fe80::1%lo0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x3 inet6 ::1 prefixlen 128 inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000 ppp0: flags=8010 mtu 1500 faith0: flags=8000 mtu 1500 gif0: flags=8010 mtu 1280 gif1: flags=8010 mtu 1280 gif2: flags=8010 mtu 1280 gif3: flags=8010 mtu 1280 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Todd Punderson Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 1:09 AM To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Problem with 4.2-STABLE and dc0 I just cvsup'ed 11pm EST 3/5/01. After I heard that stable was locked thinking all would be well....Well, I now get this message repeated many times: dc0: failed to force tx and rx to idle state The card is a Netgear FA310TX. It was fine before I did this update. The last cvsup I ran was appx. 2 weeks ago (around 2/24.) Hopefully that will let you pin down where the program crept in. Thanks! Todd To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 17:56:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from thehousleys.net (frenchknot.ne.mediaone.net [24.147.224.201]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3ABC737B718; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:56:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: (from root@localhost) by thehousleys.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f281uSm79780; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:56:28 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Received: from thehousleys.net (baby.int.thehousleys.net [192.168.0.24]) by thehousleys.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f281uGA79754; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:56:22 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jim@thehousleys.net) Message-ID: <3AA6E6C0.263A81C@thehousleys.net> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 20:56:16 -0500 From: James Housley X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Jonathan M. Slivko" Cc: G D McKee , Mike Meyer , Hajimu UMEMOTO , jedgar@fxp.org, brucegb@realtime.net, rdm@cfcl.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions Subject: Re: Temp and fan program References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Jonathan M. Slivko" wrote: > > Gordon, > > Yes, it's called "healthd", you can find it in ports. However, it just > measures temperature, etc. -- Jonathan M. Slivko > No, on supported M/Bs it will measure temperature, fan speed and voltages. Jim -- /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign . \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail . X - NO Word docs in e-mail . / \ ----------------------------------------------------------------- jeh@FreeBSD.org http://www.FreeBSD.org The Power to Serve jim@TheHousleys.Net http://www.TheHousleys.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- Unix is very user-friendly. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 18:27:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0782E37B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:27:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f282Q0H23588; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 18:26:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: ajh3@chmod.ath.cx Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Typo in pkg_check(1) manpage In-Reply-To: <20010307173439.A77792@cec.wustl.edu> References: <20010307173439.A77792@cec.wustl.edu> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010307182600U.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 18:26:00 -0800 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 3 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Good eyes, thanks - fixed! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 19: 3:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C055137B71A for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:03:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 82943 invoked by uid 100); 8 Mar 2001 03:03:31 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15014.63107.554858.683800@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:03:31 -0600 To: Dima Dorfman Cc: Mike Meyer , Kris Kennaway , Kal Torak , FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: Security Level in Sysinstall In-Reply-To: <20010308003410.EDD4B3E0C@bazooka.unixfreak.org> References: <15014.52548.792343.819247@guru.mired.org> <20010308003410.EDD4B3E0C@bazooka.unixfreak.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.89 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dima Dorfman types: > Mike Meyer writes: > > Yup - if you want to figure out what you did during the install, the > > FAQ seems like a more logical place to look than sysinstall. At least > > to me. It might make sense to recommend checking sysinstall as a > > possibly more up-to-date source of info as well. > > > > Well, I'm always willing to let someone else do work if they're > > willing. > I'll do it later today. > > > [...] If you want me to do it, could you provide a URL for the PR > > again? > > If you're still interested: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25537 Since you said you'd do it, I'll not bother. However, just marking up what you have in the PR looks like it would have been better than what I was thinking about writing. Thanx, http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 19:41: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aldan.algebra.com (aldan.algebra.com [216.254.65.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C386937B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 19:40:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mi@aldan.algebra.com) Received: (from mi@localhost) by aldan.algebra.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f283eo919206 for stable@freebsd.org; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:40:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mi) From: Mikhail Teterin Message-Id: <200103080340.f283eo919206@aldan.algebra.com> Subject: installworld keeps failing To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 22:40:50 -0500 (EST) X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7w hJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli" libncurses.so install -C -c -o root -g wheel -m 444 curs_addch.3.gz curs_addchstr.3.gz curs_addstr.3.gz curs_attr.3.gz curs_beep.3.gz curs_bkgd.3.gz curs_border.3.gz curs_clear.3.gz curs_color.3.gz curs_delch.3.gz curs_deleteln.3.gz curs_extend.3.gz curs_getch.3.gz curs_getstr.3.gz curs_getyx.3.gz curs_inch.3.gz curs_inchstr.3.gz curs_initscr.3.gz curs_inopts.3.gz curs_insch.3.gz curs_insstr.3.gz curs_instr.3.gz curs_kernel.3.gz curs_mouse.3.gz curs_move.3.gz curs_outopts.3.gz curs_overlay.3.gz curs_pad.3.gz curs_print.3.gz curs_printw.3.gz curs_refresh.3.gz curs_scanw.3.gz curs_scr_dump.3.gz curs_scroll.3.gz curs_slk.3.gz curs_termattrs.3.gz curs_termcap.3.gz curs_terminfo.3.gz curs_touch.3.gz curs_trace.3.gz curs_util.3.gz curs_window.3.gz default_colors.3.gz define_key.3.gz dft_fgbg.3.gz keybound.3.gz keyok.3.gz ncurses.3.gz resizeterm.3.gz wresize.3.gz /usr/share/man/man3 sh /opt/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/man/MKterminfo.sh /opt/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/man/terminfo.head /opt/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/include/Caps /opt/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/man/terminfo.tail >terminfo.5 tr: not found /opt/src/lib/libncurses/../../contrib/ncurses/man/MKterminfo.sh: cannot open unsorted81226: no such file *** Error code 2 Stop in /opt/src/lib/libncurses. *** Error code 1 Stop in /opt/src/lib. *** Error code 1 Stop in /opt/src. *** Error code 1 [....] If I whatch the start of the installworld carefully and manually ln -s /bin/* /usr/bin/* /tmp/install/ the installworld finishes successfully. What's wrong with my PATH? -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 20: 1:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bazooka.unixfreak.org (bazooka.unixfreak.org [63.198.170.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60E7E37B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:01:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dima@unixfreak.org) Received: from hornet.unixfreak.org (hornet [63.198.170.140]) by bazooka.unixfreak.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD003E0C; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:01:23 -0800 (PST) To: dan@langille.org Cc: Mike Meyer , FreeBSD-stable Subject: Re: Security Level in Sysinstall In-Reply-To: <200103080013.f280DGI69615@ns1.unixathome.org>; from dan@langille.org on "Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:13:15 +1300" Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 20:01:23 -0800 From: Dima Dorfman Message-Id: <20010308040123.EAD003E0C@bazooka.unixfreak.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Dan Langille" writes: > On 7 Mar 2001, at 18:07, Mike Meyer wrote: > > > Yup - if you want to figure out what you did during the install, the > > FAQ seems like a more logical place to look than sysinstall. At least > > to me. It might make sense to recommend checking sysinstall as a > > possibly more up-to-date source of info as well. > > > > Well, I'm always willing to let someone else do work if they're > > willing. If you want me to do it, could you provide a URL for the PR > > again? > > I encourage you to proceed with this documentation. It should be in the > FAQ. There's no reason why it can't be in both sysinstall and the FAQ. > Once you put it in the FAQ, whoever maintains sysinstall (anyone > remember who that odd sheep chasing person is?) can include it. > That'll be easier if they already have the FAQ as a starting point. I've submitted a PR about this. If you're on -doc, you should've seen it. It's PR docs/25599. We'll see which one (the sysinstall help entry or the FAQ entry) gets looked at first. Dima Dorfman dima@unixfreak.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 20:13:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from backup.af.speednet.com.au (af.speednet.com.au [202.135.188.244]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC81A37B718; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:13:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Received: from backup.af.speednet.com.au (backup.af.speednet.com.au [172.22.2.4]) by backup.af.speednet.com.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f284Cqk02842; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:12:53 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from andyf@speednet.com.au) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:12:51 +1100 (EST) From: Andy Farkas X-Sender: andyf@backup.af.speednet.com.au To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-scsi@freebsd.org Subject: Adaptec 284X SCSI adapter weirdness Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am seeing odd behaviour during probing of my Adaptec 284X SCSI adapter. It still works, but there is a long pause after the "Waiting 8 seconds..." message, then some debug dump (dmesg attached). During the pause (after the 8 second wait) the LED on the card goes solid on. The card is VLB, the 2 Quantums are on the internal cable, the Seagate on external. I have had this system for years, doing source upgrades since FreeBSD-2.2.5 and never seen this before. Would a verbose dmesg help? ps. I am not on -scsi but thought I'd cross-post. [/var/run/dmesg.boot] Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #0: Wed Mar 7 22:28:02 EST 2001 root@backup.af.speednet.com.au:/other/obj/citus/src/sys/BACKUP Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: i486 DX4 (486-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x480 Stepping = 0 Features=0x3 real memory = 33554432 (32768K bytes) avail memory = 29921280 (29220K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc02db000. npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface eisa0: on motherboard ahc0: at 0x1c00-0x1cff, irq 11 (edge) ahc0: on eisa0 slot 1 aic7770: Single Channel A, SCSI Id=7, 4/255 SCBs isa0: on motherboard fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 ata0 at port 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 irq 14 on isa0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16450 sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (NIBBLE-only) in COMPATIBLE mode ed0 at port 0x300-0x31f iomem 0xd8000 irq 5 on isa0 ed0: address 00:40:95:03:70:64, type NE2000 (16 bit) ad0: 258MB [944/14/40] at ata0-master BIOSPIO ad1: 245MB [872/16/36] at ata0-slave BIOSPIO Waiting 8 seconds for SCSI devices to settle (probe6:ahc0:0:6:0): SCB 0x2 - timed out in Message-out phase, SEQADDR == 0x140 STACK == 0x16a, 0x13a, 0x0, 0xc7 SXFRCTL0 == 0x8 ahc0: Dumping Card State at SEQADDR 0x140 SCSISEQ = 0x12, SBLKCTL = 0x0, SSTAT0 0x7 SCB count = 10 Kernel NEXTQSCB = 3 Card NEXTQSCB = 6 QINFIFO entries: 6 Waiting Queue entries: Disconnected Queue entries: 1:2 QOUTFIFO entries: Sequencer Free SCB List: 0 3 Pending list: 6 7 2 Kernel Free SCB list: 4 5 8 9 1 0 Untagged Q(2): 7 Untagged Q(3): 6 Untagged Q(6): 2 sg[0] - Addr 0x1f176e0 : Length 20 (probe6:ahc0:0:6:0): Other SCB Timeout (probe2:ahc0:0:2:0): SCB 0x7 - timed out in Message-out phase, SEQADDR == 0x140 STACK == 0x16a, 0x13a, 0x0, 0xc7 SXFRCTL0 == 0x8 ahc0: Dumping Card State at SEQADDR 0x140 SCSISEQ = 0x12, SBLKCTL = 0x0, SSTAT0 0x7 SCB count = 10 Kernel NEXTQSCB = 3 Card NEXTQSCB = 6 QINFIFO entries: 6 Waiting Queue entries: Disconnected Queue entries: 1:2 QOUTFIFO entries: Sequencer Free SCB List: 0 3 Pending list: 6 7 2 Kernel Free SCB list: 4 5 8 9 1 0 Untagged Q(2): 7 Untagged Q(3): 6 Untagged Q(6): 2 (probe2:ahc0:0:2:0): BDR message in message buffer (probe2:ahc0:0:2:0): no longer in timeout, status = 300 da0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4106MB (8410200 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 4106C) da2 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da2: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled da2: 4106MB (8410200 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 4106C) da1 at ahc0 bus 0 target 3 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 15), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 4095MB (8388315 512 byte sectors: 64H 32S/T 4095C) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s1a -- :{ andyf@speednet.com.au Andy Farkas System Administrator Speednet Communications http://www.speednet.com.au/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 20:56:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aslan.scsiguy.com (aslan.scsiguy.com [63.229.232.106]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 05AF137B718; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 20:56:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gibbs@scsiguy.com) Received: from scsiguy.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by aslan.scsiguy.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f284uHO36992; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:56:18 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from gibbs@scsiguy.com) Message-Id: <200103080456.f284uHO36992@aslan.scsiguy.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.2 06/23/2000 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Andy Farkas Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-scsi@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Adaptec 284X SCSI adapter weirdness In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 08 Mar 2001 15:12:51 +1100." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 07 Mar 2001 21:56:16 -0700 From: "Justin T. Gibbs" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Would a verbose dmesg help? Yes it would. Can you provide one? Your last post had a non-verbose dmesg. -- Justin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 21:39:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FFD437B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:39:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA24549; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:37:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <200103080537.VAA24549@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: panic, ipfw broken in stable? In-Reply-To: <20010307221459.A64274@astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua> from "Dmitry A. Yanko" at "Mar 7, 2001 10:14:59 pm" To: fm@astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (Dmitry A. Yanko) Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:37:09 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 11:28:49AM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > 0xc01a44cb is in some routine right before this, I suspect ip_input, > > can you get us the output of nm /kernel | grep c01a or whatever it > > takes to show us what code as at 0xc01a44cb??? > > > > c01a3a48 T _ip_mcast_src > c01a39cc T _ip_mforward > c01a39c4 T _ip_mrouter_done > c01a39b8 T _ip_mrouter_get > c01a39ac T _ip_mrouter_set ... arghhhh... you need to use ``nm -n'' to get these sorted by address order. Never mind, you gave me enough here I could just pipe it through sort and get: c01a3a34 T ipip_input c01a3a48 T _ip_mcast_src c01a3a50 T ip_rsvp_vif_init c01a3a5c T ip_rsvp_vif_done c01a3a68 T ip_rsvp_force_done c01a3a70 T ip_output c01a49ec T in_delayed_cksum c01a4a64 t ip_insertoptions c01a4c44 T ip_optcopy I was wrong, it is not in ip_input, it is in ip_output. > > (gdb) x/10i 0xc01a44cb > 0xc01a44cb : incl 0x28(%edx) > 0xc01a44ce : mov 0xffffffcc(%ebp),%eax > 0xc01a44d1 : mov 0x18(%eax),%eax > 0xc01a44d4 : add %eax,0x38(%edx) > 0xc01a44d7 : mov 0x10(%ebp),%ecx > 0xc01a44da : pushl (%ecx) > 0xc01a44dc : pushl 0xffffffd4(%ebp) > 0xc01a44df : pushl 0xffffffcc(%ebp) > 0xc01a44e2 : mov 0xffffffbc(%ebp),%ebx > 0xc01a44e5 : push %ebx > (gdb) > Hummm... did you get a crash dump? Or can you. If so a gdb backtrace would be most helpful. -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 21:50:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bleys.tpgi.com.au (bleys.tpgi.com.au [203.12.160.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B503F37B719 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:50:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from eirvine@tpgi.com.au) Received: (from smtpd@localhost) by bleys.tpgi.com.au (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f285oHk10500; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:50:17 +1100 Received: from buffy.tpgi.com.au(203.12.160.34) via SMTP by bleys.tpgi.com.au, id smtpdCRBnts; Thu Mar 8 16:50:14 2001 Received: (from smtpd@localhost) by buffy.tpgi.com.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) id QAA15554; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:50:23 +1100 Received: from tar-56k-163.tpgi.com.au(203.26.26.163), claiming to be "tpgi.com.au" via SMTP by buffy.tpgi.com.au, id smtpdFaHTZV; Thu Mar 8 16:50:09 2001 Message-ID: <3AA71D91.DE3F6EC6@tpgi.com.au> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 16:50:09 +1100 From: eirvine X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Danny Greschke Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: IPFilter doing wacky things after recompiled kernel today References: <5.0.2.1.2.20010307223821.00dc69f8@mail.dingoblue.net.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, Danny Greschke wrote: > > This will probably be something stupid. > But after a recompiled kernel today IPFilter started doing some damn weird > stuff. > > Firstly (and yes, I'm a newbie) the last kernel build of 4.2 I did on this > machine was a month ago, and now it seems that everything is being loaded > as modules or something ? Plus now it's apparently version 4.3-Beta ? I > guess they're side questions, anyway. BTW, you are compiling the kernel correctly, aren't you? There is a new (well, newish) way of doing it, documented in /usr/src/UPDATING Eddie. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Wed Mar 7 21:53:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amx.mathieu.org (modemcable161.243-201-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca [24.201.243.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C62A37B718 for ; Wed, 7 Mar 2001 21:53:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mathieu@amx.dyn.dhs.org) Received: from amx.dyn.dhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by amx.mathieu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 310103FCD; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 01:01:59 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AA72057.CA38C50@amx.dyn.dhs.org> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 01:01:59 -0500 From: Mathieu Reply-To: mathieu@amx.dyn.dhs.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-BETA i386) X-Accept-Language: fr-CA, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: "Dmitry A. Yanko" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: panic, ipfw broken in stable? References: <200103080537.VAA24549@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > > > On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 11:28:49AM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > > > 0xc01a44cb is in some routine right before this, I suspect ip_input, > > > can you get us the output of nm /kernel | grep c01a or whatever it > > > takes to show us what code as at 0xc01a44cb??? > > > > > > > c01a3a48 T _ip_mcast_src > > c01a39cc T _ip_mforward > > c01a39c4 T _ip_mrouter_done > > c01a39b8 T _ip_mrouter_get > > c01a39ac T _ip_mrouter_set > > ... > > arghhhh... you need to use ``nm -n'' to get these sorted by > address order. Never mind, you gave me enough here I could > just pipe it through sort and get: > c01a3a34 T ipip_input > c01a3a48 T _ip_mcast_src > c01a3a50 T ip_rsvp_vif_init > c01a3a5c T ip_rsvp_vif_done > c01a3a68 T ip_rsvp_force_done > c01a3a70 T ip_output > c01a49ec T in_delayed_cksum > c01a4a64 t ip_insertoptions > c01a4c44 T ip_optcopy > > I was wrong, it is not in ip_input, it is in ip_output. > > > > (gdb) x/10i 0xc01a44cb > > 0xc01a44cb : incl 0x28(%edx) > > 0xc01a44ce : mov 0xffffffcc(%ebp),%eax > > 0xc01a44d1 : mov 0x18(%eax),%eax > > 0xc01a44d4 : add %eax,0x38(%edx) > > 0xc01a44d7 : mov 0x10(%ebp),%ecx > > 0xc01a44da : pushl (%ecx) > > 0xc01a44dc : pushl 0xffffffd4(%ebp) > > 0xc01a44df : pushl 0xffffffcc(%ebp) > > 0xc01a44e2 : mov 0xffffffbc(%ebp),%ebx > > 0xc01a44e5 : push %ebx > > (gdb) > > > > Hummm... did you get a crash dump? Or can you. If so a gdb backtrace > would be most helpful. > > -- > Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message I don't know if it can help; but 4.3 was also crashing at me that way. I disabled DummyNet, and then IpFw wasn't crashing anymore ! -- Mathieu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 0:20:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from willow.safenet.pl (willow.safenet.pl [212.244.86.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43BBA37B71A for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:20:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dragon@safenet.pl) Received: (from root@localhost) by willow.safenet.pl (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f288JvY21535 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG.AVP; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:19:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dragon@safenet.pl) Received: from hell (hell.safenet.pl [212.244.86.104]) by willow.safenet.pl (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f288Ju921527 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:19:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dragon@safenet.pl) Message-ID: <009f01c0a7a8$81b32700$6856f4d4@safenet.pl> From: "Marcin Swietochowski" To: References: <200103080537.VAA24549@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> <3AA72057.CA38C50@amx.dyn.dhs.org> Subject: Re: panic, ipfw broken in stable? Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:19:33 +0100 Organization: SafeNet MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > I don't know if it can help; but 4.3 was also crashing at me that way. I > disabled DummyNet, and then IpFw wasn't crashing anymore ! I have the same problem... I disabled dummynet too... Tested on willow% uname -a FreeBSD xxx.xxx.pl 4.3-BETA FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #0: Wed Mar 7 21:31:51 CET 2001 root@xxx.xxx.pl:/usr/src/sys/compile/DRAG14 i386 -- Marcin Swietochowski SafeNet s.c. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 0:26:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from level3.dynacom.net (level3.dynacom.net [206.107.213.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D2A3037B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:26:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: (qmail 23916 invoked by uid 0); 8 Mar 2001 08:26:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO urx.com) (206.159.132.160) by mail.urx.com with SMTP; 8 Mar 2001 08:26:28 -0000 Message-ID: <3AA74231.B31E95DC@urx.com> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 00:26:25 -0800 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Meyer Cc: Hajimu UMEMOTO , jedgar@fxp.org, brucegb@realtime.net, rdm@cfcl.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Temp and fan program References: <200103072005.OAA46328@sullivan.realtime.net> <20010307151115.B79099@peitho.fxp.org> <20010308.054528.59722369.ume@mahoroba.org> <15014.49484.258132.704698@guru.mired.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Mike Meyer wrote: > > Hajimu UMEMOTO types: > > >>>>> On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 15:11:15 -0500 > > >>>>> Chris Faulhaber said: > > > I believe wmlmmon is lmmon in a Gnome(GTK) window. > > jedgar> Ummm, no. :) It is a windowmaker dock app... > > > > GKrellM is GTK+ based monitor that can display fan and temperature. > > And, there is Gnome'fy plug-in. > > I've got gkrellm setup for voltages - it even manages to display Vcore > for both CPUs on my SMP board. I don't see any way to enable > temperatures. In fact, the only temp in the setup for sensors is a > generic temp. Pointers or other clues? I have two boards using the new Via HW monitoring sensor's and I'm not sure they even get the voltages right when I use healthd and lmmon. The temp is typically something like 255 and fan(s) rpm is 0. Kent > > Thanx, > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 0:54:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6039337B719; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:54:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f288rxH24962; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 00:53:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: developers@freebsd.org Subject: 4.3-BETA available for FTP X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010308005359P.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 00:53:59 -0800 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 14 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.3-BETA I don't have a set of BETA bits for the Alpha yet but those will follow shortly. Please give these bits a reasonable going-over. It's not a full release candidate by any means, but if there have been any particularly bad mistakes made then we should certainly find them in the BETA and not when we've gotten as far as the release candidate (which should not, in theory, have *anything* wrong with it :-). Thanks! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 2:44:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 664) id 0801F37B719; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 02:44:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 02:44:50 -0800 From: David O'Brien To: Larry Berland Cc: stable Subject: Re: Is the BSDi CD of 4.2 STABLE or RELEASE ? Message-ID: <20010308024449.A98908@hub.freebsd.org> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from stuyman@confusion.net on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 11:15:15AM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 11:15:15AM -0800, Larry Berland wrote: > Speaking of CDs, anyone know when a new toolkit is gonna hit? The last > one was quite a while ago... It just did. :-) The latest BSDi FreeBSD Toolkit is Feb 2001. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 3:34:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from piano.mahoroba.org (to2-093.netspace.or.jp [202.210.89.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6DDB37B719 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 03:34:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Received: from localhost (IDENT:kOHq/VLC3zi6DR3qD39PRaYVCh/3ufLslJDNTieUe3gj6h0iKTJs1U1yjYqyXg2N@localhost [::1]) by piano.mahoroba.org (8.11.3/8.11.2/piano) with ESMTP id f28BXjv61359; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 20:33:45 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 20:33:44 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20010308.203344.78725249.ume@mahoroba.org> To: mwm@mired.org Cc: jedgar@fxp.org, brucegb@realtime.net, rdm@cfcl.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: ume@mahoroba.org Subject: Re: Temp and fan program From: Hajimu UMEMOTO In-Reply-To: <15014.49484.258132.704698@guru.mired.org> References: <20010307151115.B79099@peitho.fxp.org> <20010308.054528.59722369.ume@mahoroba.org> <15014.49484.258132.704698@guru.mired.org> X-Mailer: xcite1.38> Mew version 1.95b93 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 =?iso-2022-jp?B?KBskQjJWMWMbKEIp?= X-PGP-Public-Key: http://www.imasy.org/~ume/publickey.asc X-PGP-Fingerprint: 6B 0C 53 FC 5D D0 37 91 05 D0 B3 EF 36 9B 6A BC X-URL: http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:16:28 -0600 >>>>> Mike Meyer said: mwm> I've got gkrellm setup for voltages - it even manages to display Vcore mwm> for both CPUs on my SMP board. I don't see any way to enable mwm> temperatures. In fact, the only temp in the setup for sensors is a mwm> generic temp. Pointers or other clues? You can set `cpu' or `mb' to Sensor Label of temp0 at Builtin->Sensors->Setup. -- Hajimu UMEMOTO @ Internet Mutual Aid Society Yokohama, Japan ume@mahoroba.org ume@bisd.hitachi.co.jp ume@{,jp.}FreeBSD.org http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 3:58:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch [62.48.0.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 24F5237B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 03:58:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oppermann@monzoon.net) Received: (qmail 41028 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2001 11:54:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO monzoon.net) ([62.48.21.193]) (envelope-sender ) by mailtoaster1.pipeline.ch (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 8 Mar 2001 11:54:43 -0000 Message-ID: <3AA77362.5CD04CED@monzoon.net> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 12:56:18 +0100 From: Andre Oppermann X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, freebsd-mobile@freebsd.org Subject: Strange problem with Orinoco PCCARD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Dear all, With 4.1.1 I've had no problem running a Orinoco (WavaLAN) card in my embedded system. But since 4.2 up to last weeks -stable it won't anymore. In 4.1.1 with swapping in the card it just worked right out of GENERIC. With 4.2 I always get the message "pccardd[90]: No card in database for "(null)"("(null)")". Also 'pccardc dumpcis' didn't gave me any output. Then I searched the lists and found a very extrensive docu written by an japanese guy. I followed the instructions and now 'pccardc dumpcis' gives me a very strange output: # pccardc dumpcis Configuration data for card in slot 0 Tuple #1, code = 0x1 (Common memory descriptor), length = 3 000: 00 00 ff Common memory device information: Device number 1, type No device, WPS = OFF Speed = No speed, Memory block size = 512b, 1 units Tuple #2, code = 0x17 (Attribute memory descriptor), length = 4 000: 67 01 03 00 Attribute memory device information: Device number 1, type SRAM, WPS = OFF Speed = Reserved x 10 ns, Memory block size = 512b, 1 units Device number 2, type No device, WPS = OFF Speed = No speed, Memory block size = 512b, 1 units Tuple #3, code = 0xff (Terminator), length = 0 2 slots found This is the Orinoco Silver Card in the Slot. I can take out the card and put it right away into a windoze box and it works. So the card as such is not broken. Some more configuration pointers: # Kernel config # PCCARD device card device pcic0 at isa? irq 11 port 0x3e0 iomem 0xd0000 device pcic1 at isa? port 0x3e2 disable # /etc/defaults/pccard.conf # Generally available IO ports io 0x300-0x360 irq 11 memory 0xd0000 64k In the BIOS I've marked the range D0000 with 64k, and irq 11 is marked as legacy ISA and not used by any other device. What is happening here? Any pointers? I'm about to bang my head against the wall... :-( Please cc: me as I'm not subscribed to this list. -- Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 4: 7: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bitbucket.extern.uniface.nl (bitbucket.extern.uniface.nl [193.78.88.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2436B37B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 04:07:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bert_driehuis@nl.compuware.com) Received: from bh2.nl.compuware.com (unknown [172.16.17.82]) by bitbucket.extern.uniface.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 843F482E5; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:07:05 +0100 (CET) Received: from c1111.nl.compuware.com ([172.16.16.36]) by bh2.nl.compuware.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id GCKTSF87; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:07:05 +0100 Received: from nl.compuware.com (bertd@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c1111.nl.compuware.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id NAA00711; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:07:05 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3AA775E9.B4E36BDC@nl.compuware.com> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:07:05 +0100 From: Bert Driehuis Organization: Compuware Europe (but I only speak for myself) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; BSD/OS 4.1 i386) X-Accept-Language: en, fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kstewart@urx.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Temp and fan program References: <200103072005.OAA46328@sullivan.realtime.net> <20010307151115.B79099@peitho.fxp.org> <20010308.054528.59722369.ume@mahoroba.org> <15014.49484.258132.704698@guru.mired.org> <3AA74231.B31E95DC@urx.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Kent Stewart wrote: > I have two boards using the new Via HW monitoring sensor's and I'm not > sure they even get the voltages right when I use healthd and lmmon. > The temp is typically something like 255 and fan(s) rpm is 0. This is indicative of not being able to read the LM78/W83781D chip (all readings are 0xff). As far as I can tell, the LM78 does not have an ISA I/O address, so lmmon -i is reading from an unassigned port 295/296. The W83781D does have an ISA I/O address, but unfortunately, not all motherboards have this chip or have it fully wired up. I've been toying with the smbus stuff, but my kernel hangs at "Mounting root" if I add this to the kernel: device ichsmb device smbus device smb It detects the Intel ICH (at irq 0), but after that it's end of story... This is on 4.2-RELEASE, but I didn't see any updates relevant I thought were relevant in 4.2-STABLE. ichsmb0: port 0x540-0x54f irq 0 at device 31.3 on pci0 smbus0: on ichsmb0 smb0: on smbus0 The motherboard is an Intel CA810E. Cheers, -- Bert -- Bert Driehuis, MIS -- bert_driehuis@nl.compuware.com -- +31-20-3116119 Dihydrogen Monoxide kills! Join the campaign at http://www.dhmo.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 4:20:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1FCD437B71A for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 04:20:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 95729 invoked by uid 100); 8 Mar 2001 12:20:26 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15015.30986.42038.840890@guru.mired.org> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 06:20:26 -0600 To: Hajimu UMEMOTO Cc: mwm@mired.org, jedgar@fxp.org, brucegb@realtime.net, rdm@cfcl.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Temp and fan program In-Reply-To: <20010308.203344.78725249.ume@mahoroba.org> References: <20010307151115.B79099@peitho.fxp.org> <20010308.054528.59722369.ume@mahoroba.org> <15014.49484.258132.704698@guru.mired.org> <20010308.203344.78725249.ume@mahoroba.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.89 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hajimu UMEMOTO types: > >>>>> On Wed, 7 Mar 2001 17:16:28 -0600 > >>>>> Mike Meyer said: > mwm> I've got gkrellm setup for voltages - it even manages to display Vcore > mwm> for both CPUs on my SMP board. I don't see any way to enable > mwm> temperatures. In fact, the only temp in the setup for sensors is a > mwm> generic temp. Pointers or other clues? > You can set `cpu' or `mb' to Sensor Label of temp0 at > Builtin->Sensors->Setup. Ok, got it. Well, got one of the CPUs. Healthd finds them both. I take it I can't get both CPU temps. How about the fan? One of those is connected, and healtd finds it. The Sensor Label of fan0 is fan - but where is it going to show up on the display - or what do I have to set to enable it to show up? Thanx, http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 4:37:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from hitpro.hitachi.co.jp (hitpro.hitachi.co.jp [133.145.224.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E29737B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 04:37:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Received: from bisdgw.bisd.hitachi.co.jp by hitpro.hitachi.co.jp (8.9.3/3.7W-hitpro) id VAA08578; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 21:36:20 +0900 (JST) Received: from plum.ssr.bisd.hitachi.co.jp by bisdgw.bisd.hitachi.co.jp (8.9.3+3.2W/3.7W-bisdgw) with ESMTP id VAA26822; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 21:36:20 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Received: from localhost (IDENT:fIEsJ1/w1upcTARyOUzkVkSoc0JwKbD/hznYqBZJClFAvQNjfvgK828h35Yzw3Ux@localhost [::1]) by plum.ssr.bisd.hitachi.co.jp (8.11.1/8.11.1/plum) with ESMTP/inet6 id f28CaJK64301; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 21:36:19 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ume@mahoroba.org) Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 21:36:19 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20010308.213619.59714423.ume@mahoroba.org> To: mwm@mired.org Cc: jedgar@fxp.org, brucegb@realtime.net, rdm@cfcl.com, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Temp and fan program From: Hajimu UMEMOTO In-Reply-To: <15015.30986.42038.840890@guru.mired.org> References: <15014.49484.258132.704698@guru.mired.org> <20010308.203344.78725249.ume@mahoroba.org> <15015.30986.42038.840890@guru.mired.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.95b96 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.1 =?iso-2022-jp?B?KBskQjAqGyhCKQ==?= X-PGP-Fingerprint: D3 3D D3 54 88 13 DE 22 3F 31 C4 4D A1 08 84 7B X-PGP-Public-Key: http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ume@bisd.hitachi.co.jp.asc X-URL: http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ X-OS: FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >>>>> On Thu, 8 Mar 2001 06:20:26 -0600, >>>>> Mike Meyer said: mwm> > You can set `cpu' or `mb' to Sensor Label of temp0 at mwm> > Builtin->Sensors->Setup. mwm> mwm> Ok, got it. Well, got one of the CPUs. Healthd finds them mwm> both. I take it I can't get both CPU temps. How about the fan? One of mwm> those is connected, and healtd finds it. The Sensor Label of fan0 is mwm> fan - but where is it going to show up on the display - or what do I mwm> have to set to enable it to show up? Fan is also configured to `cpu' or `mb'. In current implementation of GKrellM, it can treat only one sensor. It should be improved. But, I don't have such hardware... X-( -- Hajimu UMEMOTO @ Business Solution System Development Div., Hitachi Ltd. E-Mail: ume@bisd.hitachi.co.jp ume@mahoroba.org ume@FreeBSD.org URL: http://www.imasy.org/~ume/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 5:13: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from keupon.grolier.fr (keupon.grolier.fr [194.117.201.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A85B037B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 05:12:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ng@keupon.grolier.fr) Received: (from ng@localhost) by keupon.grolier.fr (8.11.1/8.9.3) id f28DFJE80741 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:15:19 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from ng) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:15:19 +0100 From: Nicolas Grieco To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: make buildworld broken Message-ID: <20010308141519.K52217@t-online.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG After a cvsup -> 4.3-BETA the make buildworld stops on : getopt1.o: In function `getopt_long': getopt1.o(.text+0x1b): undefined reference to `_getopt_internal' getopt1.o: In function `getopt_long_only': getopt1.o(.text+0x3f): undefined reference to `_getopt_internal' *** Error code 1 1 error *** Error code 2 1 error *** Error code 2 Did someone know why ? -- Nicolas Grieco - Exploitation - Centre Serveur Club-Internet / T-Online France - Glab, Disciple. " Je sers l'Internet et c'est ma joie ! " _ / \ \ / X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL _________ / \ _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 5:40:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl (wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl [131.155.56.216]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9004237B719; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 05:40:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from karelj@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl) Received: (from karelj@localhost) by wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f28Dcju48569; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:38:46 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from karelj) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:38:39 +0100 From: "Karel J. Bosschaart" To: Kal Torak Cc: FreeBSD-stable , FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: Oh no... Message-ID: <20010308143839.A48446@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl> References: <3AA5EAE0.C9CEF366@quake.com.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3AA5EAE0.C9CEF366@quake.com.au>; from kaltorak@quake.com.au on Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 07:01:36PM +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 07:01:36PM +1100, Kal Torak wrote: > Hiyas... > > I kinda did a fdisk -BI on my main HDD by accident... It killed > all my partitions... I tried to get them back with sysinstall and > the live file system, but I cant mount them and stuff... > > Is there some way I can get my data back? I dont care so much about > the file systems.. But there are some files I would *LOVE* to get > back... > > Any pointers would be great... > Oops, that's a nasty situation... it remembers me to a similar thing a while back. A colleague screwed his combined Windows/FreeBSD setup, didn't have a backup and asked my assistance as he wanted to have some stuff back. Partition tables and disklabels were gone, and as others already pointed out, recovering the filesystems means recovering/reconstructing these tables. What I did first: rip out the disk, put it in another machine and copied byte by byte with dd to one big 9 GB file, so I had at least this 'backup' before doing more damage. As I knew approximately the sizes and locations of the partitions, I looked into the file, by extracting parts of it, again using dd, hoping to find indications for the start of a partition. I used 'strings' on the files, because strings are more easily to recognize for humans. I guess that if you have more knowledge about the ufs filesystem you can use more sophisticated things to find the beginning, searching for binary patterns. Anyway, with my limited knowledge and some luck I was able to find the beginning of /usr, the most important partition to be retrieved: After doing a dd on the /usr partitions of various FreeBSD machines I found a certain string pattern always on exactly the same spot (the pattern was "/usr" I think). So I looked for the pattern in the disk dump, and then reconstructed the disklabel in such a way that a dd on that partition would result in that pattern on that location. After a few tries I was very happy to notice no error message after the mount command.... everything seemed to be there, so I immediately backed it up in usr.tgz on another drive. As I did not succeed in getting / and /var back (they were possibly corrupted by a Windows installation) I did a newfs on them, and copied the root and /var from another FreeBSD machine to them. Using 'dd' and 'strings' on the original 9 GB dump (or on parts of it), I could retrieve some essential information from the filesystems that I could not recover; the password file and /etc/rc.conf were such things. I inserted them in the newly copied root and rebooted with fingers crossed... it worked. And as there appeared to be a complete object tree on the system (lucky, lucky), I did a 'make installworld', built/installed a new kernel and finally 'mergemaster' to ensure everything to be nicely synced again. So after all, the FreeBSD installation was almost completely recovered; the package database (/var/db/pkg) was missing, but I think that's an acceptable loss in this case. Well, that was roughly what I have done to recover a disk... it took me a day, but the successfull result gave me a good feeling :-). I know there was some luck involved... The Windows partition was lost forever.... I wish you very good luck when you decide to try retrieving your data, Karel. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 6:17: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gwdu42.gwdg.de (gwdu42.gwdg.de [134.76.10.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E7CC437B71C; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 06:16:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rhurlin@gwdg.de) Received: from uffz02.uni-forst.gwdg.de ([134.76.195.161] helo=gwdg.de) by gwdu42.gwdg.de with esmtp (Exim 3.14 #18) id 14b1Db-0002OA-00; Thu, 08 Mar 2001 15:16:39 +0100 Message-ID: <3AA79501.3B29C735@gwdg.de> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 15:19:45 +0100 From: Rainer Hurling Organization: Institut fuer Forstzoologie und Waldschutz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386) X-Accept-Language: en, de MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kaltorak@quake.com.au Cc: freebsd-stable@FREEBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FREEBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Oh no... References: <3AA5EAE0.C9CEF366@quake.com.au> <20010308143839.A48446@wop21.wop.wtb.tue.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Karel J. Bosschaart" wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 07, 2001 at 07:01:36PM +1100, Kal Torak wrote: > > Hiyas... > > > > I kinda did a fdisk -BI on my main HDD by accident... It killed > > all my partitions... I tried to get them back with sysinstall and > > the live file system, but I cant mount them and stuff... > > > > Is there some way I can get my data back? I dont care so much about > > the file systems.. But there are some files I would *LOVE* to get > > back... > > > > Any pointers would be great... > > > Oops, that's a nasty situation... it remembers me to a similar thing a while > back. A colleague screwed his combined Windows/FreeBSD setup, didn't have > a backup and asked my assistance as he wanted to have some stuff back. > > Partition tables and disklabels were gone, and as others already pointed > out, recovering the filesystems means recovering/reconstructing these > tables. What I did first: rip out the disk, put it in another machine > and copied byte by byte with dd to one big 9 GB file, so I had at least > this 'backup' before doing more damage. > > As I knew approximately the sizes and locations of the partitions, I > looked into the file, by extracting parts of it, again using dd, hoping to > find indications for the start of a partition. I used 'strings' > on the files, because strings are more easily to recognize for humans. > I guess that if you have more knowledge about the ufs filesystem you > can use more sophisticated things to find the beginning, searching for > binary patterns. Anyway, with my limited knowledge and some luck I was able > to find the beginning of /usr, the most important partition to be retrieved: > After doing a dd on the /usr partitions of various FreeBSD machines I > found a certain string pattern always on exactly the same spot (the pattern > was "/usr" I think). So I looked for the pattern in the disk dump, and then > reconstructed the disklabel in such a way that a dd on that partition would > result in that pattern on that location. After a few tries I was very happy > to notice no error message after the mount command.... everything seemed > to be there, so I immediately backed it up in usr.tgz on another drive. As > I did not succeed in getting / and /var back (they were possibly corrupted > by a Windows installation) I did a newfs on them, and copied the root and > /var from another FreeBSD machine to them. Using 'dd' and 'strings' on the > original 9 GB dump (or on parts of it), I could retrieve some essential > information from the filesystems that I could not recover; the password > file and /etc/rc.conf were such things. I inserted them in the newly copied > root and rebooted with fingers crossed... it worked. And as there appeared to > be a complete object tree on the system (lucky, lucky), I did a > 'make installworld', built/installed a new kernel and finally 'mergemaster' > to ensure everything to be nicely synced again. > > So after all, the FreeBSD installation was almost completely recovered; > the package database (/var/db/pkg) was missing, but I think that's an > acceptable loss in this case. > > Well, that was roughly what I have done to recover a disk... it took me a day, > but the successfull result gave me a good feeling :-). I know there was > some luck involved... > > The Windows partition was lost forever.... > > I wish you very good luck when you decide to try retrieving your data, > > Karel. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message Perhaps there is another way of getting your informations of sector 00 back. A few days ago I lost my sector 00 information by a harddisk failure (IBM DCAS 4,3GB). Booting from another disk I got a working system with all tools necessary to rebuild the first sector. I found 'gpart' in the ports collection (/usr/ports/sysutils/gpart) what has done his job very well. It was able to scan for my partitions and filesystems on the damaged harddisk. I got back my first primary partition with Windows98 and my second primary partition with FreeBSD4.2. Nothing was lost! If the found information from 'gpart' seems plausible, you can write it back to sector 00. But _please_ read the man page carefully before writing anything back to disk! Hope I could help you, Rainer -- Rainer Hurling, Ass. d. Fd. email: rhurlin@gwdg.de Institut fuer Forstzoologie und Waldschutz http://www.gwdg.de/~rhurlin Georg-August Universitaet Goettingen office: 0551 39-2291 Buesgenweg 3, D-37077 Goettingen, GERMANY fax: 0551 39-2089 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 6:20: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.unixathome.org (ns1.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DDAAE37B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 06:19:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.int.nz.freebsd.org [192.168.0.99]) by ns1.unixathome.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f28EJvI75538 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 03:19:57 +1300 (NZDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Message-Id: <200103081419.f28EJvI75538@ns1.unixathome.org> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: novice in training To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 03:19:47 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: ReleaseName = any fails to find INDEX Reply-To: dan@langille.org X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I tried to install a package tonight under 4.2-20010306-STABLE snapshot but sysinstall failed to find the INDEX if I specified the release name as any. Here's the steps: /stand/sysinstall configure Options ReleaseName = any Packages FTP If I changed the ReleaseName to 4.2-RELEASE, INDEX was found and the contents were displayed. For Media, I selected ftp and tried a few of the .au.freebsd.org sites. Can anyone else reproduce this? -- Dan Langille pgpkey - finger dan@unixathome.org | http://unixathome.org/finger.php got any work? I'm looking for some. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 7: 8:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from raven.addict.de (unter.geistern.und.vampiren.de [212.116.4.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E47A337B719 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:08:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dwalin@raven.addict.de) Received: (from dwalin@localhost) by raven.addict.de (8.11.1/8.9.3) id f28F6EO40502 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:06:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from dwalin) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:06:14 +0100 From: Juergen Unger To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: apache crashing in a jail Message-ID: <20010308160614.A40415@raven.addict.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi ! I experienced a problems with the 4.3-BETA: FreeBSD black 4.3-BETA FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #0: Wed Mar 7 15:06:31 CET 2001 root@black:/obj/src/sys/GENERIC i386 I set up an jail environment an installed the /usr/ports/www/apache13 port within this jail. /usr/local/sbin/httpd dumps core immediately. there are no logfile-entries about this. On the real system (not in the jail) the apache is running as normal. With another system (4.2-STABLE from 20010123) the Apache is running without problem within a jail. Some idea ? thnx, -Juergen- -- .no sig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 7:21: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dart.sr.se (dart.SR.SE [193.12.91.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0714537B71A for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:20:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: from honken.sr.se ([134.25.128.27]) by dart.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA29440 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:20:57 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: from pluto.sr.se (pluto.SR.SE [134.25.193.91]) by honken.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA28916 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:20:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: (from root@localhost) by pluto.sr.se (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f28FKuF34910 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:20:56 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gunnar) Received: (from gunnar@localhost) by pluto.sr.se (8.11.2/8.11.1av) id f28FKsr34901 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:20:54 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gunnar) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:20:54 +0100 From: Gunnar Flygt To: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Dell Power Edge 2450 Message-ID: <20010308162054.C34640@sr.se> Reply-To: Gunnar Flygt Mail-Followup-To: Gunnar Flygt , FreeBSD Stable Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anyone on the list succeeded to get the internal RAID detected by FreeBSD. I tried with the CD's from 4.2-RELEASE -- __o regards, Gunnar ---_ \<,_ email: flygt@sr.se ---- (_)/ (_) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 7:34: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from magic.adaptec.com (magic.adaptec.com [208.236.45.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 986D837B71A for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:34:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scott_long@btc.adaptec.com) Received: from redfish.adaptec.com (redfish.adaptec.com [162.62.50.11]) by magic.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA14805; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:33:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from btc.btc.adaptec.com (btc.btc.adaptec.com [162.62.64.10]) by redfish.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id HAA20236; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:25:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from btcexc01.btc.adaptec.com (btcexc01 [162.62.147.10]) by btc.btc.adaptec.com (8.8.8+Sun/8.8.8) with ESMTP id IAA01937; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:33:49 -0700 (MST) Received: by btcexc01.btc.adaptec.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) id ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:33:50 -0700 Message-ID: <385C88108D0FD511BB5A0000D11ABE9201AA2D@btcexc01.btc.adaptec.com> From: "Long, Scott" To: "'Gunnar Flygt'" , FreeBSD Stable Subject: RE: Dell Power Edge 2450 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:33:49 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2650.21) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The aac driver for the Dell PERC 2 and PERC 3/si wasn't committed to -stable until a few weeks ago. If you update to stable or grab the recent beta image, you should be in business. Scott > -----Original Message----- > From: Gunnar Flygt [mailto:flygt@sr.se] > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 8:21 AM > To: FreeBSD Stable > Subject: Dell Power Edge 2450 > > > Has anyone on the list succeeded to get the internal RAID detected by > FreeBSD. I tried with the CD's from 4.2-RELEASE > > -- > __o > regards, Gunnar ---_ \<,_ > email: flygt@sr.se ---- (_)/ (_) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 7:45:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gactr.uga.edu (mail.gactr.uga.edu [128.192.37.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0807B37B719 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:45:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu) Received: (qmail 11116 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2001 15:45:55 -0000 Received: from qat.noc.nat (HELO gactr.uga.edu) ([10.10.100.125]) (envelope-sender ) by mail.servers.nat (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 8 Mar 2001 15:45:55 -0000 Message-ID: <3AA7A93E.CF584567@gactr.uga.edu> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 10:46:06 -0500 From: "Robin P. Blanchard" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.2.12 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: cvs question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG in my supfile, i have the following line: src-all tag=RELENG_4 which gets me 4.3-BETA. what should the tag be changed to to get the 4.2-STABLE(frozen) code? -- ------------------------------------ Robin P. Blanchard Network Engineering & Support Georgia Center for Continuing Ed. fon: 706.542.2404 fax: 706.542.6546 email: Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu ------------------------------------ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 7:50:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bumper.jellybaby.net (bumper.jellybaby.net [194.159.247.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3507F37B71B for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:50:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simond@bumper.jellybaby.net) Received: (from simond@localhost) by bumper.jellybaby.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) id PAA95988; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:50:16 GMT (envelope-from simond) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:50:16 +0000 From: simond@irrelevant.org To: "Robin P. Blanchard" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs question Message-ID: <20010308155016.A95105@irrelevant.org> References: <3AA7A93E.CF584567@gactr.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <3AA7A93E.CF584567@gactr.uga.edu>; from Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 10:46:06AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 10:46:06AM -0500, Robin P. Blanchard wrote: > in my supfile, i have the following line: > src-all tag=RELENG_4 > > which gets me 4.3-BETA. what should the > tag be changed to to get the 4.2-STABLE(frozen) > code? There is no such tag, you're still on 4-stable, just the version number changes near the time of release of a new version, after 4.3-BETA will come 4.3-RC and then a snapshop called 4.3-RELEASE is taken and 4.3-STABLE begins the whole lot all over again :) -- Simon Dick simond@irrelevant.org "Why do I get this urge to go bowling everytime I see Tux?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 7:53:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E336A37B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:53:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id HAA25022; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:53:18 -0800 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda25020; Thu Mar 8 07:53:01 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f28FquR84355; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:52:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdd84349; Thu Mar 8 07:52:33 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f28FqXZ96240; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:52:33 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103081552.f28FqXZ96240@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdm96218; Thu Mar 8 07:52:19 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: "Robin P. Blanchard" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs question In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 08 Mar 2001 10:46:06 EST." <3AA7A93E.CF584567@gactr.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 07:52:19 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <3AA7A93E.CF584567@gactr.uga.edu>, "Robin P. Blanchard" writes: > in my supfile, i have the following line: > src-all tag=RELENG_4 > > which gets me 4.3-BETA. what should the > tag be changed to to get the 4.2-STABLE(frozen) > code? At this point in time 4.2-STABLE = 4.3-BETA = (frozen). Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 7:55:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.tdb.uu.se (mail2.tdb.uu.se [130.238.18.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 28CBC37B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 07:55:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ertr1013@mail2.tdb.uu.se) Received: from triangeln.uu.se (triangeln.it.uu.se [130.238.18.37]) by mail2.tdb.uu.se (8.8.8/8.8.8/STUD_1.1) with ESMTP id QAA28730; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:55:05 +0100 (MET) Received: (from ertr1013@localhost) by triangeln.uu.se (8.9.1b+Sun/8.8.8/STUD_NULL_1.1) id QAA07248; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:55:05 +0100 (MET) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:55:04 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: "Robin P. Blanchard" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs question Message-ID: <20010308165504.A5746@student.uu.se> References: <3AA7A93E.CF584567@gactr.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AA7A93E.CF584567@gactr.uga.edu>; from Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 10:46:06AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 10:46:06AM -0500, Robin P. Blanchard wrote: > in my supfile, i have the following line: > src-all tag=RELENG_4 > > which gets me 4.3-BETA. what should the > tag be changed to to get the 4.2-STABLE(frozen) > code? > RELENG_4 is the correct tag for 4-STABLE. At this moment in time 4-STABLE is called 4.3-BETA, two weeks ago it was 4.2-STABLE, next month it will be 4.3-STABLE and so on. -STABLE is a continously moving target and the frozen code is generally known as a release. See also the FAQ at http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/admin.html#RELEASE-CANDIDATE for another answer to your question. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 8: 1:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from giganda.komkon.org (giganda.komkon.org [209.125.17.66]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC91037B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:01:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from str@giganda.komkon.org) Received: (from root@localhost) by giganda.komkon.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA23482 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:01:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from str) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:01:31 -0500 (EST) From: Igor Roshchin Message-Id: <200103081601.LAA23482@giganda.komkon.org> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: When 4.3-RELEASE is planned ? Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am sorry for possible repetion, but I just looked through the www.FreeBSD.org pages and the archive of the -stable list, and couldn't find anything more specific than "end of March". Is the 4.3-RELEASE date set yet ? Thanks, Igor To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 8: 3:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from poontang.schulte.org (poontang.schulte.org [209.134.156.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A8A037B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:03:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from christopher@schulte.org) Received: from ronayne.schulte.org (nb-22.netbriefings.com [204.72.185.22]) by poontang.schulte.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA54467; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:03:36 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from christopher@schulte.org) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010308100308.00ae8578@pop.schulte.org> X-Sender: schulte@pop.schulte.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 10:03:21 -0600 To: Igor Roshchin , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Christopher Schulte Subject: Re: When 4.3-RELEASE is planned ? In-Reply-To: <200103081601.LAA23482@giganda.komkon.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Check: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=375644+0+archive/2001/freebsd-stable/20010225.freebsd-stable At 11:01 AM 3/8/2001 -0500, Igor Roshchin wrote: >I am sorry for possible repetion, but I just looked through >the www.FreeBSD.org pages and the archive of the -stable list, >and couldn't find anything more specific than "end of March". > >Is the 4.3-RELEASE date set yet ? > >Thanks, > > >Igor > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 8:34:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from siafu.iconnect.co.ke (upagraha.iconnect.co.ke [209.198.248.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4950037B71A for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 08:34:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wash@poeza.iconnect.co.ke) Received: from [212.22.161.3] (helo=ns2.iconnect.co.ke) by siafu.iconnect.co.ke with esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 14b3Ku-00044t-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:32:20 +0300 Received: from amavis by ns2.iconnect.co.ke with scanned-ok (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14b3Mu-0002m5-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2001 19:34:24 +0300 Received: from host-64-110-74-50.interpacket.net ([64.110.74.50] helo=poeza.iconnect.co.ke) by ns2.iconnect.co.ke with esmtp (Exim 3.12 #1) id 14b3Mr-0002jd-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2001 19:34:21 +0300 Received: from wash by poeza.iconnect.co.ke with local (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14b3Om-0001KM-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 08 Mar 2001 19:36:20 +0300 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:36:19 +0300 From: Odhiambo Washington To: FBSD-STABLE Subject: microuptime issues Message-ID: <20010308193619.C4110@poeza.iconnect.co.ke> Mail-Followup-To: Odhiambo Washington , FBSD-STABLE Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="w7PDEPdKQumQfZlR" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD poeza.iconnect.co.ke 4.3-BETA FreeBSD 4.3-BETA X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ X-Location: Mombasa, KE, East Africa Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --w7PDEPdKQumQfZlR Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I cvsupped today and did a complete and successful rebuild but on one system where I had APM enabled in the kernel with 'device apm' I ended up getting hunderds of msgs with 'microuptime() went....' I headed to the list archives and found out that all I needed to do was to disable apm from the kernel. Now, my hardware BIOS supports APM and I was so comfortable to shutdown my box with 'shutdown -p'=20 It is not that I like shutting down FreeBSD ;-) - only the box is where i do all tests with hard/soft-ware on Unix and Windows platforms so I loved -p when I needed to mangle with hardware.=20 Having disabled apm from the kernel, is there another option to the 'shutdown -p' ?? _or_ better still, is there another cure to the microuptime issue? TIA -Wash -- Odhiambo Washington Inter-Connect Ltd., wash@iconnect.co.ke 5th Flr Furaha Plaza Tel: 254 11 222604 Nkrumah Rd., Fax: 254 11 222636 PO Box 83613 MOMBASA, KE. One is always a little afraid of love, but above all, one is afraid of pain= or=20 causing pain.=20 --w7PDEPdKQumQfZlR Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6p7UDA2k+MNyI/bERAuUJAKCKbFIR4Bn6+V4RUMki1xFC7Wt8jQCeKi9u 1tjWIz5S9r3zLK0TzTFMQr0= =1DKA -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --w7PDEPdKQumQfZlR-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 9:22:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49AC537B71B for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:22:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14b47T-000PeD-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:22:31 +0000 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f28HMUr48547 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:22:30 GMT (envelope-from jcm) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:22:30 +0000 From: j mckitrick To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: using stable vs clean from CD Message-ID: <20010308172230.A48296@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am a big fan of staying stable, but after buying the 4.2 CD and installing clean, it seemed to work better than the 4.2 stable I had built by rebuilding since 3.2. Maybe it was operator error, but the clean install seemed to run much better. For example, the previous installation took a long time for the buffer daemon to shut down. The CD installation is much faster. Is this a valid argument for installing from CD, or did I just miss some vital instructions somewhere? Or do glitches like this generally only occur over major releases? jm -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathon McKitrick -- jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org To Microsoft: "Your tyranny I was part of, is now cracking on every side. Now your own life is in danger. Your Empire is on fire." Front 242 ------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 9:29:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail2.uniserve.com (mail2.uniserve.com [204.244.156.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82C9C37B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:29:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tom@uniserve.com) Received: from mail2.uniserve.com ([204.244.156.10]) by mail2.uniserve.com with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 14b4Ct-000JC1-00; Thu, 08 Mar 2001 09:28:07 -0800 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:28:07 -0800 (PST) From: Tom X-Sender: tom@athena.uniserve.ca To: j mckitrick Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: using stable vs clean from CD In-Reply-To: <20010308172230.A48296@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, j mckitrick wrote: ... > seemed to run much better. For example, the previous installation took a > long time for the buffer daemon to shut down. The CD installation is much > faster. bufdaemon shutdown speed is related to how many buffers need to cleaned up. Also, there was bugs in the general buffer handling in 4.2-RELEASE that were fixed, and performance improved. bufdaemon probably has a lot more to do in 4.2-STABLE. I don't really notice, since I never shutdown. > Is this a valid argument for installing from CD, or did I just miss some > vital instructions somewhere? Or do glitches like this generally only occur > over major releases? I think so, because it doesn't seem like you follow this mailing list too closely. If you did, you know about the 4.2-RELEASE issues and what has been done about them. > jm > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > Jonathon McKitrick -- jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org To Microsoft: > "Your tyranny I was part of, is now cracking on every side. > Now your own life is in danger. Your Empire is on fire." Front 242 > ------------------------------------------------------------------- Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 9:36:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from home.cg.nu (home.cg.nu [213.196.2.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E90737B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:36:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from henk@home.cg.nu) Received: from kpnlep (henk [213.93.106.195]) by home.cg.nu (Postfix) with SMTP id AAF45158E47; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:36:33 +0100 (CET) Reply-To: From: "Henk Wevers" To: "Juergen Unger" , Subject: RE: apache crashing in a jail Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:36:33 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20010308160614.A40415@raven.addict.de> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I do have the same problem with a new build jail. Even if i let Apache listen to his own ipadress. I could not load sshd because libcrypto.so.1 was not found? I did copy it from the main and sshd did work in the jail. Is the jail code still broken? Henk Wevers -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Juergen Unger Sent: donderdag 8 maart 2001 16:06 To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: apache crashing in a jail Hi ! I experienced a problems with the 4.3-BETA: FreeBSD black 4.3-BETA FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #0: Wed Mar 7 15:06:31 CET 2001 root@black:/obj/src/sys/GENERIC i386 I set up an jail environment an installed the /usr/ports/www/apache13 port within this jail. /usr/local/sbin/httpd dumps core immediately. there are no logfile-entries about this. On the real system (not in the jail) the apache is running as normal. With another system (4.2-STABLE from 20010123) the Apache is running without problem within a jail. Some idea ? thnx, -Juergen- -- .no sig To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 9:43: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27B7237B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:43:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14b4RG-0000Pr-00; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:42:58 +0000 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f28Hgvg48758; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:42:57 GMT (envelope-from jcm) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:42:57 +0000 From: j mckitrick To: Tom Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: using stable vs clean from CD Message-ID: <20010308174257.A48727@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20010308172230.A48296@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from tom@uniserve.com on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 09:28:07AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG | I think so, because it doesn't seem like you follow this mailing list | too closely. If you did, you know about the 4.2-RELEASE issues and what | has been done about them. Thanks. Is this the only one to follow? I've visited a number of times about important issues and never really gotten a response. So I just decided to browse them before rebuilding world. I guess some issues are bound to slip through the cracks that way. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 9:46:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB0D137B71A for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 09:46:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14b4UU-0001cF-00; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:46:18 +0000 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f28HkIk48812; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:46:18 GMT (envelope-from jcm) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:46:18 +0000 From: j mckitrick To: Matt Heckaman Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: using stable vs clean from CD Message-ID: <20010308174617.B48727@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20010308172230.A48296@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from matt@lucida.ca on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 12:29:52PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG | 1) CVSUP through all minor version numbers. | 2) Clean install through all major version numbers. You mean from CD? Or floppy? I never tried installing with floppies and a dialup connection because of (a) the time involved and (b) I didn't know how well this would work with a laptop and PCMCIA cards. | I'm a fan of cleaning everything out every year or so though, some people | differ, but this is the way I do it. :) I like that approach more and more. I can't see the advantage in NOT doing this, unless it's some mission-critical app that *absolutely* cannot be shut down. jm -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathon McKitrick -- jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org To Microsoft: "Your tyranny I was part of, is now cracking on every side. Now your own life is in danger. Your Empire is on fire." Front 242 ------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 10: 7:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dart.sr.se (dart.SR.SE [193.12.91.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D5C437B719 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:07:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: from honken.sr.se ([134.25.128.27]) by dart.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA37446; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:07:15 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: from pluto.sr.se (pluto.SR.SE [134.25.193.91]) by honken.sr.se (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA39494; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:07:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gunnar@pluto.sr.se) Received: (from root@localhost) by pluto.sr.se (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f28I7E738601; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:07:14 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gunnar) Received: (from gunnar@localhost) by pluto.sr.se (8.11.2/8.11.1av) id f28I7CT38592; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:07:12 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from gunnar) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:07:12 +0100 From: Gunnar Flygt To: "Long, Scott" Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: RE: Dell Power Edge 2450 Message-ID: <20010308190712.B38468@sr.se> Reply-To: Gunnar Flygt Mail-Followup-To: Gunnar Flygt , "Long, Scott" , FreeBSD Stable References: <385C88108D0FD511BB5A0000D11ABE9201AA2D@btcexc01.btc.adaptec.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <385C88108D0FD511BB5A0000D11ABE9201AA2D@btcexc01.btc.adaptec.com>; from scott_long@btc.adaptec.com on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 08:33:49AM -0700 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-10 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 08:33:49AM -0700, Long, Scott wrote: > The aac driver for the Dell PERC 2 and PERC 3/si wasn't committed to -stable > until a few weeks ago. If you update to stable or grab the recent beta > image, you should be in business. Great, exactly what I needed. I knew I could trust in FreeBSD :) > > Scott > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Gunnar Flygt [mailto:flygt@sr.se] > > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 8:21 AM > > To: FreeBSD Stable > > Subject: Dell Power Edge 2450 > > > > > > Has anyone on the list succeeded to get the internal RAID detected by > > FreeBSD. I tried with the CD's from 4.2-RELEASE > > > > -- > > __o > > regards, Gunnar ---_ \<,_ > > email: flygt@sr.se ---- (_)/ (_) > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- __o regards, Gunnar ---_ \<,_ email: flygt@sr.se ---- (_)/ (_) o _ _ _ _o /\_ _ \\o (_)\__/o (_) _< \_ _>(_) (_)/<_ \_| \ _|/' \/ (_)>(_) (_) (_) (_) (_)' _\o_ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 10:12: 2 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from germanium.xtalwind.net (germanium.xtalwind.net [205.160.242.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89F2B37B71A for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:11:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.xtalwind.net [127.0.0.1]) by germanium.xtalwind.net (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f28IBcS98750 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:11:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jack@germanium.xtalwind.net) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:11:38 -0500 (EST) From: jack To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Make release Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Would it be possible to change docproj to use ghostscript6-nox11, rather than ghostscript6, so X isn't required on the build box to build a release with docs? -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jack O'Neill Systems Administrator / Systems Analyst jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Crystal Wind Communications, Inc. Finger jack@germanium.xtalwind.net for my PGP key. PGP Key fingerprint = F6 C4 E6 D4 2F 15 A7 67 FD 09 E9 3C 5F CC EB CD enriched, vcard, HTML messages > /dev/null -------------------------------------------------------------------------- A Microsoft Certified Systems Engineer is to computing what a McDonalds Certified Food Specialist is to fine cuisine. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 10:41:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B961137B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:41:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f28IS4p29476; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:28:04 -0800 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:28:04 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: j mckitrick Cc: Tom , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: using stable vs clean from CD Message-ID: <20010308102804.B13090@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <20010308172230.A48296@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010308174257.A48727@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="4SFOXa2GPu3tIq4H" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010308174257.A48727@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>; from jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 05:42:57PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --4SFOXa2GPu3tIq4H Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 05:42:57PM +0000, j mckitrick wrote: > Thanks. Is this the only one to follow? I've visited a number of times > about important issues and never really gotten a response. So I just > decided to browse them before rebuilding world. I guess some issues are > bound to slip through the cracks that way. You should also follow the CVS commits to stable via either cvs-all or one of the filtered lists someone created (Check the archives, I don't remember where they are.) No having the time or inclination to follow the lists is certaintly a compelling argument for just doing CD installes and upgrades rather then running -STABLE. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --4SFOXa2GPu3tIq4H Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6p88zXY6L6fI4GtQRAvHvAJ42a4hwoQIEeEPbR6KlyFhlxxQMvQCeNpIt otmTGH/gnn5YDcBWfa1LLsU= =BuXw -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --4SFOXa2GPu3tIq4H-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 10:45:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27A1737B71A for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:45:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14b5Ph-0002Rz-00; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:45:25 +0000 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f28IjOh49418; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:45:24 GMT (envelope-from jcm) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:45:24 +0000 From: j mckitrick To: Brooks Davis Cc: Tom , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: using stable vs clean from CD Message-ID: <20010308184524.A49361@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20010308172230.A48296@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010308174257.A48727@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010308102804.B13090@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010308102804.B13090@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu>; from brooks@one-eyed-alien.net on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 10:28:04AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG | remember where they are.) No having the time or inclination to follow | the lists is certaintly a compelling argument for just doing CD | installes and upgrades rather then running -STABLE. Hey, Brooks, thanks for being diplomatic about it. :) It's tough with school and big work projects to keep up. I was content with 4.2-release, until I saw all the vulnerabilities being posted, and I got nervous, especially since I was running ipfw with the conditions leading to a possible exploit. I need a personal assistant to filter my cvs-all mail. :) jm -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathon McKitrick -- jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org To Microsoft: "Your tyranny I was part of, is now cracking on every side. Now your own life is in danger. Your Empire is on fire." Front 242 ------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 11: 0:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-1242.charter-stl.com [24.217.116.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0FE637B719 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:00:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 077A3A8D2; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:00:37 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:00:37 -0600 From: Andrew Hesford To: j mckitrick Cc: Brooks Davis , Tom , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: using stable vs clean from CD Message-ID: <20010308130037.B2276@cec.wustl.edu> References: <20010308172230.A48296@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010308174257.A48727@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010308102804.B13090@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <20010308184524.A49361@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010308184524.A49361@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>; from jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 06:45:24PM +0000 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Personal assistant? I hired one about six months ago, her name is procmail. :) Works like a dream for putting -questions and -stable in their proper places, as well as dropping the spam. On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 06:45:24PM +0000, j mckitrick wrote: > > Hey, Brooks, thanks for being diplomatic about it. :) > > It's tough with school and big work projects to keep up. I was content with > 4.2-release, until I saw all the vulnerabilities being posted, and I got > nervous, especially since I was running ipfw with the conditions leading to > a possible exploit. > > I need a personal assistant to filter my cvs-all mail. :) > > > jm > -- -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@cec.wustl.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 11: 2:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 744B537B719 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:02:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f28InbE00691; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:49:37 -0800 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 10:49:37 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: j mckitrick Cc: Tom , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: using stable vs clean from CD Message-ID: <20010308104937.A32762@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <20010308172230.A48296@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010308174257.A48727@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010308102804.B13090@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <20010308184524.A49361@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="+QahgC5+KEYLbs62" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010308184524.A49361@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>; from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 06:45:24PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 06:45:24PM +0000, j mckitrick wrote: > It's tough with school and big work projects to keep up. I was content w= ith > 4.2-release, until I saw all the vulnerabilities being posted, and I got > nervous, especially since I was running ipfw with the conditions leading = to > a possible exploit. That's the flip side of running CD releases. Perhaps things will get easier for CD users now that they have decided to create mini-branches for security officer use. > I need a personal assistant to filter my cvs-all mail. :) I'm fairly certain there is a list out there somewhere that only contains RELENG_4 commits which would cut things down by quite a bit more then half. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6p9RAXY6L6fI4GtQRAuetAKDDkiXPVJq75T/rSDNnFCuVPsWcJgCg3g8C qQomNthUUrdGIHgCHp4lgQc= =aHsG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --+QahgC5+KEYLbs62-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 11: 9:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F14937B719; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:09:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id LAA26316; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:09:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <200103081909.LAA26316@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: 4.3-BETA available for FTP In-Reply-To: <20010308005359P.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> from Jordan Hubbard at "Mar 8, 2001 00:53:59 am" To: jkh@osd.bsdi.com (Jordan Hubbard) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:09:16 -0800 (PST) Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org, developers@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG It already appears as if dummynet has been broken in 4.3 and is causing panics. At least 3 reports I have seen so far of people who have had to disable DUMMYNET. > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/releases/i386/4.3-BETA > > I don't have a set of BETA bits for the Alpha yet but those will > follow shortly. > > Please give these bits a reasonable going-over. It's not a full > release candidate by any means, but if there have been any > particularly bad mistakes made then we should certainly find them in > the BETA and not when we've gotten as far as the release candidate > (which should not, in theory, have *anything* wrong with it :-). > > Thanks! > > - Jordan > -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 11:15:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.ca (epsilon.lucida.ca [209.47.215.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1C74637B71D for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:15:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@LUCIDA.CA) Received: (qmail 2720 invoked by uid 1000); 8 Mar 2001 18:15:13 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Mar 2001 18:15:13 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:15:10 -0500 (EST) From: Matt Heckaman To: j mckitrick Cc: Subject: Re: using stable vs clean from CD In-Reply-To: <20010308174617.B48727@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, j mckitrick wrote: ... : You mean from CD? Or floppy? I never tried installing with floppies and a : dialup connection because of (a) the time involved and (b) I didn't know how : well this would work with a laptop and PCMCIA cards. CD :) I grab the ISO every time it comes out. I'm on 2.5 Mb DSL though, so it's convienent for me to do so... I generally buy for every *major* release though, it depends on my cash flow at the moment. :P .. : I like that approach more and more. I can't see the advantage in NOT : doing this, unless it's some mission-critical app that *absolutely* : cannot be shut down. Yep. I'm talking about my personal workstation here, nothing mission critical about it. Otherwise it would be a very careful situation. :) * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.ca http://www.lucida.ca/pgp * * GPG fingerprint - 53CA 8320 C8F6 32ED 9DDF 036E 3171 C093 4AD3 1364 * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.ca/pgp iD8DBQE6p8wxMXHAk0rTE2QRAq8FAJ93bhEiADLweB/E4tpIBTZ6Od5XSQCfWTwE 97jpjQbiaCMFLiiehVtTorQ= =TNKU -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 11:15:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nerv.nu (cx639627-c.irvn1.occa.home.com [24.0.209.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A34737B71A for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:15:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nugundam@nerv.nu) Received: (from nugundam@localhost) by mail.nerv.nu (8.11.2/8.11.0) id f28JEeT37195; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:14:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nugundam) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:14:40 -0800 From: "Joseph T. Lee" To: Odhiambo Washington Cc: FBSD-STABLE Subject: Re: microuptime issues Message-ID: <20010308111440.A37112@ICEwood.nerv.nu> References: <20010308193619.C4110@poeza.iconnect.co.ke> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010308193619.C4110@poeza.iconnect.co.ke>; from wash@iconnect.co.ke on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 07:36:19PM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 07:36:19PM +0300, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I cvsupped today and did a complete and successful rebuild but on one > system where I had APM enabled in the kernel with 'device apm' I ended > up getting hunderds of msgs with 'microuptime() went....' Is your kern.timecounter.method in sysctl set to 1? If so, try setting it to 0. It helped me on my laptop. -- Joseph nugundam =best=com==/==\=IIGS=/==\=Playstation=/==\=Civic HX CVT=/==\ # Anime Expo 2000 >> www.anime-expo.org/ > # FreeBSD: The Power to Serve >> www.freebsd.org > # The Ultimate Online Speed-Shop >> www.racesearch.com / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 11:16:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from epsilon.lucida.ca (epsilon.lucida.ca [209.47.215.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C06EC37B71B for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:16:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from matt@LUCIDA.CA) Received: (qmail 10404 invoked by uid 1000); 8 Mar 2001 17:29:53 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Mar 2001 17:29:53 -0000 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:29:52 -0500 (EST) From: Matt Heckaman To: j mckitrick Cc: Subject: Re: using stable vs clean from CD In-Reply-To: <20010308172230.A48296@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Rating: localhost 1.6.2 0/1000/N Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, j mckitrick wrote: ... : Is this a valid argument for installing from CD, or did I just miss some : vital instructions somewhere? Or do glitches like this generally only occur : over major releases? Well.. Some people always cvsup across major releases, I do not. My rules are as follows: 1) CVSUP through all minor version numbers. 2) Clean install through all major version numbers. I'm a fan of cleaning everything out every year or so though, some people differ, but this is the way I do it. :) * Matt Heckaman - mailto:matt@lucida.ca http://www.lucida.ca/pgp * * GPG fingerprint - 53CA 8320 C8F6 32ED 9DDF 036E 3171 C093 4AD3 1364 * -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: http://www.lucida.ca/pgp iD8DBQE6p8GRMXHAk0rTE2QRAmBfAJ0TIIXKwra82f4SSfpGU65XFA6Q/QCcD/U3 TK1EwERy9FwmYXhcozoah18= =cK4Y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 11:40:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from probity.mcc.ac.uk (probity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.94]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B62E37B719 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:40:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by probity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14b6H1-00036Z-00; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:40:31 +0000 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f28JeUF49968; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:40:30 GMT (envelope-from jcm) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:40:30 +0000 From: j mckitrick To: Andrew Hesford Cc: Brooks Davis , Tom , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: using stable vs clean from CD Message-ID: <20010308194030.A49940@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20010308172230.A48296@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010308174257.A48727@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010308102804.B13090@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <20010308184524.A49361@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010308130037.B2276@cec.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010308130037.B2276@cec.wustl.edu>; from ajh3@cec.wustl.edu on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 01:00:37PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 01:00:37PM -0600, Andrew Hesford wrote: | Personal assistant? I hired one about six months ago, her name is | procmail. :) | | Works like a dream for putting -questions and -stable in their proper | places, as well as dropping the spam. Yep, I've got her running now. It helps with organizing, but not sheer volume. Sorting out 'must read' from 'must discard'. Some of these lists get insanely busy, and the thread subject doesn't always reflect the body. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 11:42: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3F6237B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 11:42:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14b6IV-0005LW-00; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:42:03 +0000 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f28Jg3649997; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:42:03 GMT (envelope-from jcm) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:42:03 +0000 From: j mckitrick To: Brooks Davis Cc: Tom , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: using stable vs clean from CD Message-ID: <20010308194202.B49940@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20010308172230.A48296@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010308174257.A48727@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010308102804.B13090@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <20010308184524.A49361@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010308104937.A32762@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010308104937.A32762@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu>; from brooks@one-eyed-alien.net on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 10:49:37AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG | easier for CD users now that they have decided to create mini-branches | I'm fairly certain there is a list out there somewhere that only | contains RELENG_4 commits which would cut things down by quite a bit Are these both the same? That sounds like exactly what I need. jm -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathon McKitrick -- jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org To Microsoft: "Your tyranny I was part of, is now cracking on every side. Now your own life is in danger. Your Empire is on fire." Front 242 ------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 12: 1:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A870D37B718; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:01:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA41406; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 21:01:29 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200103082001.VAA41406@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: 4.3-BETA available for FTP In-Reply-To: <200103081909.LAA26316@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> from "Rodney W. Grimes" at "Mar 8, 2001 11:09:16 am" To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 21:01:29 +0100 (CET) Cc: Jordan Hubbard , stable@FreeBSD.org, developers@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > It already appears as if dummynet has been broken in 4.3 and is > causing panics. At least 3 reports I have seen so far of people > who have had to disable DUMMYNET. can you point me to these reports ? I'd love to have a look at them and see what is wrong (especially because after the last batch of fixes in february i haven't heard of brokennes). cheers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 12: 2:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F5D737B719 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:02:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14b6cH-00065p-00; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 20:02:29 +0000 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f28K2SC50288; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 20:02:28 GMT (envelope-from jcm) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 20:02:28 +0000 From: j mckitrick To: Brooks Davis Cc: Tom , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: using stable vs clean from CD Message-ID: <20010308200228.C50168@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <20010308172230.A48296@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010308174257.A48727@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010308102804.B13090@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <20010308184524.A49361@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010308104937.A32762@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: <20010308104937.A32762@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu>; from brooks@one-eyed-alien.net on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 10:49:37AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG | I'm fairly certain there is a list out there somewhere that only | contains RELENG_4 commits which would cut things down by quite a bit | more then half. You don't mean freebsd-commit, do you? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 12: 9:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from info.iet.unipi.it (info.iet.unipi.it [131.114.9.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 31E2A37B718; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:09:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from luigi@info.iet.unipi.it) Received: (from luigi@localhost) by info.iet.unipi.it (8.9.3/8.9.3) id VAA41511; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 21:09:34 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from luigi) From: Luigi Rizzo Message-Id: <200103082009.VAA41511@info.iet.unipi.it> Subject: Re: 4.3-BETA available for FTP In-Reply-To: <200103082001.VAA41406@info.iet.unipi.it> from Luigi Rizzo at "Mar 8, 2001 09:01:29 pm" To: Luigi Rizzo Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 21:09:34 +0100 (CET) Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" , Jordan Hubbard , stable@FreeBSD.org, developers@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL61 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > It already appears as if dummynet has been broken in 4.3 and is > > causing panics. At least 3 reports I have seen so far of people > > who have had to disable DUMMYNET. > > can you point me to these reports ? I'd love to have a look i actually found one in the freebsd-stable mailing list archive... what i would need is to know what ipfw configuration did cause the problem -- apparently the problem is some null pointer dereference, so if i can reproduce it, it should be reasonably easy to track it. thanks luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 12:16:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.gmx.net (pop.gmx.net [194.221.183.20]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id AB26A37B719 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:16:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 29123 invoked by uid 0); 8 Mar 2001 20:16:11 -0000 Received: from pd9508841.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO speedy.gsinet) (217.80.136.65) by mail.gmx.net (mp010-rz3) with SMTP; 8 Mar 2001 20:16:11 -0000 Received: (from sittig@localhost) by speedy.gsinet (8.8.8/8.8.8) id SAA05768 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:18:25 +0100 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:18:25 +0100 From: Gerhard Sittig To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: When 4.3-RELEASE is planned ? Message-ID: <20010308181825.P20830@speedy.gsinet> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <200103081601.LAA23482@giganda.komkon.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0i In-Reply-To: <200103081601.LAA23482@giganda.komkon.org>; from str@giganda.komkon.org on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 11:01:31AM -0500 Organization: System Defenestrators Inc. Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 11:01 -0500, Igor Roshchin wrote: > > I am sorry for possible repetion, but I just looked through > the www.FreeBSD.org pages and the archive of the -stable list, > and couldn't find anything more specific than "end of March". Look out for the following message: From: Jordan Hubbard To: stable@freebsd.org Cc: developers@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD 4.3 RELEASE schedule Date: Tue, 20 Feb 2001 22:45:12 -0800 Message-ID: <41733.982737912@winston.osd.bsdi.com> virtually yours 82D1 9B9C 01DC 4FB4 D7B4 61BE 3F49 4F77 72DE DA76 Gerhard Sittig true | mail -s "get gpg key" Gerhard.Sittig@gmx.net -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 12:24:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wgate.com (mail.wgate.com [38.219.83.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0090137B71A for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:24:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rjesup@wgate.com) Received: from jesup.eng.tvol.net ([10.32.2.26]) by mail.wgate.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id GN5Y4B4Y; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:24:24 -0500 Reply-To: Randell Jesup To: Matt Dillon Cc: Glen Gross , Steven Farmer , "freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG" , msinz@wgate.com (Mike Sinz) Subject: Re: ARCH flag in new make.conf References: <01C0A6F1.C26E6DC0.ggross@symark.com> <200103071856.f27Iuxl71513@earth.backplane.com> From: Randell Jesup Date: 08 Mar 2001 15:24:24 -0500 In-Reply-To: Matt Dillon's message of "Wed, 7 Mar 2001 10:56:59 -0800 (PST)" Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.0807 (Gnus v5.8.7) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Matt Dillon writes: > I think you are being entirely sensible. I used to use -O2 all the time, > but as of about a year ago it started breaking things (starting with > the FreeBSD kernel). Then I started using -Os because I like the code > compaction it produced, but that started breaking the kernel too. Now I > just use -O (and -O had damn well better continue to work because my > static inlines will not compile properly without it!). Two possibilities (of course): 1) gcc2.95.2 (which you're using I assume) has some bugs at -O2 (or -Os) level which are breaking on some kernel code; or 2) some code in the kernel is inherently unsafe because of lack of 'volatile' statements or other locking/synchronization issues. (ok, 3: both of the above) > Now I just don't care any more, except for the 0.1% of my personal code > that I need to optimize, and most of that I optimize simply by playing > around with the C a little or changing an algorithm out or something like > that. I care; I'm sure others do. We use -O2 (and even -O3) in production code. The fact that -O2 breaks the kernel waves big, red, scary flags. Whether it's the kernel or gcc, it needs to be fixed. The kernel isn't the only code that uses gcc or -O2, and if the kernel has bugs in it I want to track them down. The fact that it started breaking a year ago implies either a new gcc was added (I don't think so around then, but I wasn't paying attention), some bugs were checked into the kernel (possible), or some code was checked in that was correct but broke the compiler. If we knew when the breakage happened it's far easier to track down.... At this rate, pretty soon we'll be requiring -g to compile the kernel... ;-) -- Randell Jesup, Worldgate Communications, ex-Scala, ex-Amiga OS team ('88-94) rjesup@wgate.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 12:30:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lcremeans.homeip.net (dsl254-119-131-nyc1.dsl-isp.net [216.254.119.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED4A737B718; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:30:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee@lcremeans.homeip.net) Received: (from lee@localhost) by lcremeans.homeip.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f28KVXI02711; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:31:33 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lee) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:31:33 -0500 From: Lee Cremeans To: questions@freebsd.org Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: ABIT KT7 and temp monitoring Message-ID: <20010308153133.A2688@lcremeans.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE Organization: My room? Are you crazy? :) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anyone been able to get healthd or any of the temperature monitoring tools in ports/ to to work on a ABIT KT7? I tried both, and neither can find the chip on my board (healthd dies, the other utility gives me bogus data). Any ideas? I'm running FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE. -lee -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on WTnet) | | lcremeans@erols.com | http://wakky.dyndns.org/~lee | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 12:33:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salseiros.melim.com.br (salseiros.melim.com.br [200.215.110.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 93F6C37B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:33:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ronan@melim.com.br) Received: from fazendinha (fazendinha.melim.com.br [192.168.168.42]) by salseiros.melim.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id RAA81970 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:26:00 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from ronan@melim.com.br) Message-ID: <03c101c0a80f$0403af20$2aa8a8c0@melim.com.br> From: "Ronan Lucio" To: References: <01C0A6F1.C26E6DC0.ggross@symark.com><200103071856.f27Iuxl71513@earth.backplane.com> Subject: backup route Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:33:20 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, Does anybody knows if is possibly i create a backup route on FreeBSD? The problem is i have to default gateways, when the first have problem, the second starting work, so, i need to add the new route manually. [ ]´s Ronan Lucio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 12:36:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A69CC37B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:36:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f28KaNN56354 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:36:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:36:22 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: *sigh* Alpha release broken Message-ID: <20010308123622.D39683@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Setting up /boot directory for kern floppy /R/stage/image.kern/kernel: 63.2% -- replaced with /R/stage/image.kern/kernel.gz sh -e /usr/src/release/scripts/doFS.sh /R/stage/floppies/kern.flp /R/stage /mnt 1440 /R/stage/image.kern 80000 fd1440 Warning: Block size restricts cylinders per group to 6. Warning: 1216 sector(s) in last cylinder unallocated /dev/rvnn0c: 2880 sectors in 1 cylinders of 1 tracks, 4096 sectors 1.4MB in 1 cyl groups (6 c/g, 12.00MB/g, 32 i/g) super-block backups (for fsck -b #) at: 32 cpio: write error: No space left on device *** Error code 1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 12:42:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EC4637B71C; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:42:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id MAA26589; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:42:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <200103082042.MAA26589@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: 4.3-BETA available for FTP In-Reply-To: <200103082001.VAA41406@info.iet.unipi.it> from Luigi Rizzo at "Mar 8, 2001 09:01:29 pm" To: luigi@info.iet.unipi.it (Luigi Rizzo) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 12:42:18 -0800 (PST) Cc: jkh@osd.bsdi.com (Jordan Hubbard), stable@FreeBSD.org, developers@FreeBSD.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > > It already appears as if dummynet has been broken in 4.3 and is > > causing panics. At least 3 reports I have seen so far of people > > who have had to disable DUMMYNET. > > can you point me to these reports ? I'd love to have a look > at them and see what is wrong (especially because after the last > batch of fixes in february i haven't heard of brokennes). I'll bounce the copies I have here directly to you. Along with some data from one user that shows this to be in ip_output. -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 13:30: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-1242.charter-stl.com [24.217.116.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26A7237B719; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:30:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 207B6A8D2; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:29:49 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:29:49 -0600 From: Andrew Hesford To: Lee Cremeans Cc: questions@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ABIT KT7 and temp monitoring Message-ID: <20010308152949.A2720@cec.wustl.edu> References: <20010308153133.A2688@lcremeans.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010308153133.A2688@lcremeans.homeip.net>; from lcremeans@erols.com on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 03:31:33PM -0500 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG You do have smbus and all that good stuff in your kernel, right? Without that stuff in my kernel, lmmon tells me my processor runs at 255 degrees C, and the fans spin at 0 rpm. With that stuff in, my kernel panics. :| On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 03:31:33PM -0500, Lee Cremeans wrote: > Has anyone been able to get healthd or any of the temperature monitoring > tools in ports/ to to work on a ABIT KT7? I tried both, and neither can find > the chip on my board (healthd dies, the other utility gives me bogus data). > Any ideas? I'm running FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE. > > -lee > > -- > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on WTnet) | > | lcremeans@erols.com | http://wakky.dyndns.org/~lee | > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 13:33: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from equinox.datasyrge.net (ool-18ba2d21.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.45.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 456CE37B71C; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:32:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jslivko@datasyrge.net) Received: from localhost (jslivko@localhost) by equinox.datasyrge.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11502; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:37:03 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:37:02 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: Andrew Hesford Cc: Lee Cremeans , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ABIT KT7 and temp monitoring In-Reply-To: <20010308152949.A2720@cec.wustl.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have a feeling, but don't know for a fact that healthd is just a tool that works on a very small minority of systems that it's designed to run on. So, I wouldn't trust it at all. -- Jonathan M. Slivko On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Andrew Hesford wrote: > You do have smbus and all that good stuff in your kernel, right? > > Without that stuff in my kernel, lmmon tells me my processor runs at 255 > degrees C, and the fans spin at 0 rpm. With that stuff in, my kernel > panics. :| > > On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 03:31:33PM -0500, Lee Cremeans wrote: > > Has anyone been able to get healthd or any of the temperature monitoring > > tools in ports/ to to work on a ABIT KT7? I tried both, and neither can find > > the chip on my board (healthd dies, the other utility gives me bogus data). > > Any ideas? I'm running FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE. > > > > -lee > > > > -- > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on WTnet) | > > | lcremeans@erols.com | http://wakky.dyndns.org/~lee | > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > -- |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Jonathan M. Slivko | | Global IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Networks | | Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Svces. | | Webpage: http://jslivko.datasyrge.net/ | | | |"Microsoft, is that some kind of toilet paper? | |"FreeeBSD: The Power to Serve -- www.freebsd.org" | |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 13:38:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from marble.fbcc.com (ns2.fbcc.com [216.54.252.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7486737B71B for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:38:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@jimking.net) Received: (qmail 18746 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2001 21:46:52 -0000 Received: from 216-52-255-8.fbcc.com (HELO bluto.jimking.net) (216.54.255.8) by ns2.fbcc.com with SMTP; 8 Mar 2001 21:46:52 -0000 Received: from jking (jking.lgc.com [134.132.76.82]) by bluto.jimking.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with SMTP id f28LbR834769 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128 bits) verified NO); Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:38:00 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jim@jimking.net) Message-ID: <01d601c0a818$0cbc1c70$524c8486@jking> From: "Jim King" To: "Jonathan M. Slivko" , "Andrew Hesford" Cc: "Lee Cremeans" , , References: Subject: Re: ABIT KT7 and temp monitoring Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:37:27 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG healthd works fine on systems that use supported monitoring chips. Unfortunately the number of chips that healthd supports is pretty small compared to monitoring tools on other platforms, e.g. Motherboard Monitor on Windows or LM Sensors on Linux. Jim "Jonathan M. Slivko" wrote: > I have a feeling, but don't know for a fact that healthd is just a tool > that works on a very small minority of systems that it's designed to run > on. So, I wouldn't trust it at all. -- Jonathan M. Slivko > > On Thu, 8 Mar > 2001, Andrew Hesford wrote: > > > You do have smbus and all that good stuff in your kernel, right? > > > > Without that stuff in my kernel, lmmon tells me my processor runs at 255 > > degrees C, and the fans spin at 0 rpm. With that stuff in, my kernel > > panics. :| > > > > On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 03:31:33PM -0500, Lee Cremeans wrote: > > > Has anyone been able to get healthd or any of the temperature monitoring > > > tools in ports/ to to work on a ABIT KT7? I tried both, and neither can find > > > the chip on my board (healthd dies, the other utility gives me bogus data). > > > Any ideas? I'm running FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE. > > > > > > -lee > > > > > > -- > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on WTnet) | > > > | lcremeans@erols.com | http://wakky.dyndns.org/~lee | > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > -- > |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| > | Jonathan M. Slivko | > | Global IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Networks | > | Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Svces. | > | Webpage: http://jslivko.datasyrge.net/ | > | | > |"Microsoft, is that some kind of toilet paper? | > |"FreeeBSD: The Power to Serve -- www.freebsd.org" | > |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 13:39: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8025437B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:39:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f28LgAP49664 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:42:10 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:42:10 -0500 (EST) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Subject: Re: *sigh* Alpha release broken In-Reply-To: <20010308123622.D39683@dragon.nuxi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, David O'Brien wrote: >cpio: write error: No space left on device >*** Error code 1 Blech. Let's hope this is the last release before a method of breaking out modules from the monolithic install kernel is decided on and implemented. -- Brandon D. Valentine "Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." -- Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 13:41: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from equinox.datasyrge.net (ool-18ba2d21.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.45.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0A7E37B718; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:40:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jslivko@datasyrge.net) Received: from localhost (jslivko@localhost) by equinox.datasyrge.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA11551; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:44:23 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:44:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: Jim King Cc: Andrew Hesford , Lee Cremeans , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ABIT KT7 and temp monitoring In-Reply-To: <01d601c0a818$0cbc1c70$524c8486@jking> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Exactly my point :) -- Jonathan M. Slivko On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Jim King wrote: > healthd works fine on systems that use supported monitoring chips. > Unfortunately the number of chips that healthd supports is pretty small > compared to monitoring tools on other platforms, e.g. Motherboard Monitor on > Windows or LM Sensors on Linux. > > Jim > > "Jonathan M. Slivko" wrote: > > I have a feeling, but don't know for a fact that healthd is just a tool > > that works on a very small minority of systems that it's designed to run > > on. So, I wouldn't trust it at all. -- Jonathan M. Slivko > > > > On Thu, 8 Mar > > 2001, Andrew Hesford wrote: > > > > > You do have smbus and all that good stuff in your kernel, right? > > > > > > Without that stuff in my kernel, lmmon tells me my processor runs at 255 > > > degrees C, and the fans spin at 0 rpm. With that stuff in, my kernel > > > panics. :| > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 03:31:33PM -0500, Lee Cremeans wrote: > > > > Has anyone been able to get healthd or any of the temperature > monitoring > > > > tools in ports/ to to work on a ABIT KT7? I tried both, and neither > can find > > > > the chip on my board (healthd dies, the other utility gives me bogus > data). > > > > Any ideas? I'm running FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE. > > > > > > > > -lee > > > > > > > > -- > > > > +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ > > > > | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on WTnet) | > > > > | lcremeans@erols.com | http://wakky.dyndns.org/~lee | > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > -- > > |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| > > | Jonathan M. Slivko | > > | Global IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Networks | > > | Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Svces. | > > | Webpage: http://jslivko.datasyrge.net/ | > > | | > > |"Microsoft, is that some kind of toilet paper? | > > |"FreeeBSD: The Power to Serve -- www.freebsd.org" | > > |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > -- |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Jonathan M. Slivko | | Global IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Networks | | Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Svces. | | Webpage: http://jslivko.datasyrge.net/ | | | | Come and check out AsylumNet: irc.asylum-net.org!| |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 13:48:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sekrit.office.oceanwave.com (laslo.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.174.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8ED1637B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:48:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from arr@oceanwave.com) Received: (from arr@localhost) by sekrit.office.oceanwave.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f28LmFu21868; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:48:15 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15015.65052.971806.270046@sekrit.office.oceanwave.com> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:48:12 -0500 (EST) From: To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: 4.2-R, bridging and ipfilter X-Mailer: VM 6.63 under Emacs 20.6.1 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5B F5 08 B3 6B 11 72 BD 19 29 1B 98 D2 94 77 D8 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Has anyone gotten bridging and ipfilter to work together with 4.2-R? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 13:50:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A87D437B71A for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:50:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f28Lo2H31867; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:50:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: jack@germanium.xtalwind.net Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Make release In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010308135002K.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 13:50:02 -0800 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 1 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just set NO_X during the build. It's set now, in fact. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 13:53:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from snarf.osdn.com (snarf.osdn.com [209.192.217.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C314937B719 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 13:53:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jim@guinness.osdn.com) Received: from guinness.osdn.com (root@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by snarf.osdn.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f28Lrcd81924; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:53:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from jim@guinness.osdn.com) Received: by guinness.osdn.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C132616C; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:53:25 -0500 (EST) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:53:24 -0500 From: Jim Mock To: "Robin P. Blanchard" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs question Message-ID: <20010308165324.C4018@guinness.osdn.com> Reply-To: mij@osdn.com References: <3AA7A93E.CF584567@gactr.uga.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.16i In-Reply-To: <3AA7A93E.CF584567@gactr.uga.edu>; from Robin_Blanchard@gactr.uga.edu on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 10:46:06AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 08 Mar 2001 at 10:46:06 -0500, Robin P. Blanchard wrote: > in my supfile, i have the following line: src-all tag=RELENG_4 > > which gets me 4.3-BETA. what should the tag be changed to to get the > 4.2-STABLE(frozen) code? 4.3-BETA is the frozen code. *Please* read the FAQ entry on this at http://www.freebsd.org/FAQ/admin.html#RELEASE-CANDIDATE. - jim -- - jim mock - O|S|D|N - open source development network - - http://www.freebsdzine.org/ - jim@freebsdzine.org - jim@FreeBSD.org - To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 14: 4:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from poontang.schulte.org (poontang.schulte.org [209.134.156.197]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB40E37B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:04:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from christopher@schulte.org) Received: from ronayne.schulte.org (nb-22.netbriefings.com [204.72.185.22]) by poontang.schulte.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA67098; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:03:52 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from christopher@schulte.org) Message-Id: <5.0.2.1.0.20010308160207.02762e18@pop.schulte.org> X-Sender: schulte@pop.schulte.org X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 16:03:37 -0600 To: , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: Christopher Schulte Subject: Re: 4.2-R, bridging and ipfilter In-Reply-To: <15015.65052.971806.270046@sekrit.office.oceanwave.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At 04:48 PM 3/8/2001 -0500, arr@oceanwave.com wrote: >Has anyone gotten bridging and ipfilter to work together with 4.2-R? Question: do you mean IPFIREWALL and bridging? If so, yes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 14: 7:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sekrit.office.oceanwave.com (laslo.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.174.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40C9437B718 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:07:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from arr@oceanwave.com) Received: (from arr@localhost) by sekrit.office.oceanwave.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f28M7sg21929; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:07:54 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15016.698.213770.231057@sekrit.office.oceanwave.com> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:07:54 -0500 (EST) From: To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.2-R, bridging and ipfilter In-Reply-To: <5.0.2.1.0.20010308160207.02762e18@pop.schulte.org> References: <15015.65052.971806.270046@sekrit.office.oceanwave.com> <5.0.2.1.0.20010308160207.02762e18@pop.schulte.org> X-Mailer: VM 6.63 under Emacs 20.6.1 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5B F5 08 B3 6B 11 72 BD 19 29 1B 98 D2 94 77 D8 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG christopher> Question: do you mean IPFIREWALL and bridging? No, I meant ipfilter. I'm running 4.2-STABLE cvsuped as of March 2nd (ipfilter 3.4.16, stock with the OS). I don't want to use IPFW if I don't absolutely have to (all of our other machines are using ipfilter). It's good to know that there's some fall back, though, if it's impossible to get ipfilter working correctly. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 14: 9:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gollum.esys.ca (dhcp198-52.esys.ca [198.161.92.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCCD37B718; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:09:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lyndon@gollum.esys.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gollum.esys.ca (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f28M9hU04940; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:09:43 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from lyndon@gollum.esys.ca) Message-Id: <200103082209.f28M9hU04940@gollum.esys.ca> From: Lyndon Nerenberg Organization: ACI / Messagingdirect X-URL: http://www.messagingdirect.com/ To: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ABIT KT7 and temp monitoring In-Reply-To: Message from "Jim King" of "Thu, 08 Mar 2001 15:37:27 CST." <01d601c0a818$0cbc1c70$524c8486@jking> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <4937.984089383.1@localhost> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 15:09:43 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > healthd works fine on systems that use supported monitoring chips. > Unfortunately the number of chips that healthd supports is pretty small > compared to monitoring tools on other platforms, e.g. Motherboard Monitor on > Windows or LM Sensors on Linux. Which says to me that the interface should be abstracted out. Something like a device driver that presents a /dev device that you can read or ioctl to get the information in a somewhat chip- independent fashion. --lyndon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 14:13:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-1242.charter-stl.com [24.217.116.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD37F37B718; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:13:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E8297A8D2; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:12:54 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:12:54 -0600 From: Andrew Hesford To: Lyndon Nerenberg Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ABIT KT7 and temp monitoring Message-ID: <20010308161254.A12645@cec.wustl.edu> References: <200103082209.f28M9hU04940@gollum.esys.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103082209.f28M9hU04940@gollum.esys.ca>; from lyndon@MessagingDirect.COM on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 03:09:43PM -0700 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG man 4 smb /dev/smb0 The problem is the smb kernel device supports a limited number of chips. On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 03:09:43PM -0700, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > > healthd works fine on systems that use supported monitoring chips. > > Unfortunately the number of chips that healthd supports is pretty small > > compared to monitoring tools on other platforms, e.g. Motherboard Monitor on > > Windows or LM Sensors on Linux. > > Which says to me that the interface should be abstracted out. > Something like a device driver that presents a /dev device that > you can read or ioctl to get the information in a somewhat chip- > independent fashion. > > --lyndon > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 14:26:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gollum.esys.ca (dhcp198-52.esys.ca [198.161.92.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BC7637B71A; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:26:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lyndon@gollum.esys.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gollum.esys.ca (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f28MQbU05037; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:26:37 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from lyndon@gollum.esys.ca) Message-Id: <200103082226.f28MQbU05037@gollum.esys.ca> From: Lyndon Nerenberg Organization: ACI / Messagingdirect X-URL: http://www.messagingdirect.com/ To: Andrew Hesford Cc: questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ABIT KT7 and temp monitoring In-Reply-To: Message from Andrew Hesford of "Thu, 08 Mar 2001 16:12:54 CST." <20010308161254.A12645@cec.wustl.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <5034.984090396.1@localhost> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 15:26:36 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > man 4 smb > The problem is the smb kernel device supports a limited number of chips. Two problems: 1) /dev/smb* are exclusive access -- only one process can hold them open at a time. (As of a couple of months ago in -stable at least) 2) You still need knowledge of the chipsets. This isn't an abstracted interface. What would work better is: % cat /dev/mbmon cpu[0] temp=73 fan=180 vcc=2.30 ... cpu[1] temp=76 fan=167 vcc=2.32 ... motherboard temp=38 <-- generic motherboard sensor values fan[0]=313 <-- rpm for non-cpu fans fan[1]=-1 . . . % I.e., something suitable for direct display, and which can easily be ripped apart with awk to extract specific values. It should also be possible to ioctl the device in a manner similar to /dev/apm, although defining the variables and data types for the ioctl interface might be a bit of a pain, since the variables returned by the different chips are, well, variable. --lyndon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 14:28:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-1242.charter-stl.com [24.217.116.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EC9C237B71A; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:28:51 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4E542A8D2; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:28:33 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:28:33 -0600 From: Andrew Hesford To: FreeBSD-stable , FreeBSD-questions Subject: APM Message-ID: <20010308162833.A388@cec.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello. I want to be able to use `shutdown -p now` to turn my machine off. However, it does not work. At first, I had no apm device in the kernel, so I added (from GENERIC): device apm0 at nexus? disable flags 0x20 This still did not work, so I tried each of the following, one at a time: device apm0 device apm0 at nexus? device apm0 at nexus? flags 0x20 In all three cases, the kernel locks up right after it loads the md driver, which I gather means it is trying to load the apm driver. Once I tried this with debugging symbols, and ddb, and anything else I could think of, but nothing works. It just freezes completely. I have a Dell Dimension L733r with a Phoenix (I believe) BIOS, revision A07. The system includes the i810 chipset. Has anybody gotten APM to work on a similar machine? What good does the disable flag do? It seems to just disable apm, which is pointless, because I can just as easily remove the device line. Finally, is there any other way to get `shutdown -p` working like I want it to? -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 14:32:16 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from equinox.datasyrge.net (ool-18ba2d21.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.45.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8256B37B71C; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:32:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jslivko@datasyrge.net) Received: from localhost (jslivko@localhost) by equinox.datasyrge.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA11739; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:35:57 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:35:56 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: Andrew Hesford Cc: FreeBSD-stable , FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: APM In-Reply-To: <20010308162833.A388@cec.wustl.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yea, The r series on Dell can be quite tricky, as they are the lowest priced machines on the market, which ideally doesn't make for a good server. The Dimension T's are much better for that, which is what I have both at home and at work. However, on a technical note, the r's just have bad hardware most of the time, with regards to FreeBSD anyways. So, I don't know what to say other than that. But, on the whole, Dell is a very good company. -- Jonathan M. Slivko On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Andrew Hesford wrote: > Hello. > > I want to be able to use `shutdown -p now` to turn my machine off. > However, it does not work. At first, I had no apm device in the kernel, > so I added (from GENERIC): > > device apm0 at nexus? disable flags 0x20 > > This still did not work, so I tried each of the following, one at a > time: > > device apm0 > device apm0 at nexus? > device apm0 at nexus? flags 0x20 > > In all three cases, the kernel locks up right after it loads the md > driver, which I gather means it is trying to load the apm driver. Once I > tried this with debugging symbols, and ddb, and anything else I could > think of, but nothing works. It just freezes completely. > > I have a Dell Dimension L733r with a Phoenix (I believe) BIOS, revision > A07. The system includes the i810 chipset. > > Has anybody gotten APM to work on a similar machine? What good does the > disable flag do? It seems to just disable apm, which is pointless, > because I can just as easily remove the device line. Finally, is there > any other way to get `shutdown -p` working like I want it to? > -- |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Jonathan M. Slivko | | Global IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Networks | | Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Svces. | | Webpage: http://jslivko.datasyrge.net/ | | | | Come and check out AsylumNet: irc.asylum-net.org!| |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 14:40:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bitbucket.extern.uniface.nl (bitbucket.extern.uniface.nl [193.78.88.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F315F37B719 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:40:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from driehuis@playbeing.org) Received: from bh2.nl.compuware.com (unknown [172.16.17.82]) by bitbucket.extern.uniface.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0298287 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:40:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from trashcan.nl.compuware.com ([172.16.16.52]) by bh2.nl.compuware.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id GRMZR2X9; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:40:03 +0100 Received: from c1111.nl.compuware.com (c1111.nl.compuware.com [172.16.16.36]) by trashcan.nl.compuware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDDCE145A4; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:40:02 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:40:02 +0100 (CET) From: Bert Driehuis X-Sender: bertd@c1111.nl.compuware.com To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ABIT KT7 and temp monitoring In-Reply-To: <200103082209.f28M9hU04940@gollum.esys.ca> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > > healthd works fine on systems that use supported monitoring chips. > > Unfortunately the number of chips that healthd supports is pretty small > > compared to monitoring tools on other platforms, e.g. Motherboard Monitor on > > Windows or LM Sensors on Linux. > > Which says to me that the interface should be abstracted out. > Something like a device driver that presents a /dev device that > you can read or ioctl to get the information in a somewhat chip- > independent fashion. I've toyed with this idea (actually, I've implemented it for BSD/OS 4.x using the sysctl interface). However, there are two problems with it that made me drop the project for the time being. First of all, putting it in the kernel means a rigid interface, not to mention the associated bloat and near-constant kernel updates as new chips get glued to motherboards (and wired in new an innovative ways). Second, the user needs to define what sensor means what anyway, because of the ease of miswiring, and because a broken fan is indistinguisable from a nonexistant fan, which means a config file must be used anyway. Finally, none of the monitoring chips I've seen can be detected reliably. The ones attached to the ISA bus can be checked for sanity with some confidence (the W83781D has a one byte id), but scanning the I2C bus can easily lock a motherboard (I think that that's what's causing my Intel board to act up when the ichsmb driver gets added to the kernel). Cheers, -- Bert -- Bert Driehuis -- driehuis@playbeing.org -- +31-20-3116119 If the only tool you've got is an axe, every problem looks like fun! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 14:42:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0374237B718; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:42:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f28MgGp11903; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:42:16 -0800 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:42:16 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: Andrew Hesford Cc: FreeBSD-stable , FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: APM Message-ID: <20010308144216.B9110@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <20010308162833.A388@cec.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bCsyhTFzCvuiizWE" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010308162833.A388@cec.wustl.edu>; from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 04:28:33PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --bCsyhTFzCvuiizWE Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 04:28:33PM -0600, Andrew Hesford wrote: > I want to be able to use `shutdown -p now` to turn my machine off. > However, it does not work. At first, I had no apm device in the kernel, > so I added (from GENERIC): >=20 > device apm0 at nexus? disable flags 0x20 >=20 > This still did not work, so I tried each of the following, one at a > time: >=20 > device apm0 > device apm0 at nexus? > device apm0 at nexus? flags 0x20 This last one is the right one for most people. > In all three cases, the kernel locks up right after it loads the md > driver, which I gather means it is trying to load the apm driver. Once I > tried this with debugging symbols, and ddb, and anything else I could > think of, but nothing works. It just freezes completely. >=20 > I have a Dell Dimension L733r with a Phoenix (I believe) BIOS, revision > A07. The system includes the i810 chipset. Given that it's a desktop system, it's quite likey you have a screwed APM BIOS since they don't put much (read any) work into testing APM on desktops. You might try a BIOS upgrade. You should also veryify that APM is really on in the BIOS. I've certaintly seen services (usually PS/2 mice) probe while disabled. > Has anybody gotten APM to work on a similar machine? What good does the > disable flag do? It seems to just disable apm, which is pointless, > because I can just as easily remove the device line. Finally, is there > any other way to get `shutdown -p` working like I want it to? The disable flag disables APM. It's there becase many systems like your's hang if APM is used, but some people want to just use userconfig to enable APM with their GENERIC kernel rather then recompiling. I don't know of any other way to get shutdown -p to work, unfortunatly. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --bCsyhTFzCvuiizWE Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6qArIXY6L6fI4GtQRAn1KAJ9DW8cvUrRkGf9scz8MyZJ1qA6P0wCdFIFJ fep/PH4wNB+If+dcLMIspK8= =u95R -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bCsyhTFzCvuiizWE-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 14:44:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-1242.charter-stl.com [24.217.116.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0863237B719; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:44:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E083DA8D2; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:44:13 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:44:13 -0600 From: Andrew Hesford To: "Jonathan M. Slivko" Cc: Andrew Hesford , FreeBSD-stable , FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: APM Message-ID: <20010308164413.A497@cec.wustl.edu> References: <20010308162833.A388@cec.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jslivko@datasyrge.net on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 05:35:56PM -0500 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yes, I know, but I was short on cash and wanted a simple desktop. Had I known it would cause me this much trouble (APM, buggy video with XFree86, crappy case, 4 PCI slots), I would have held out a while longer with my old Dimension XPS-T450. I'm going to start working next week, I think I'll save the processor, RAM, and PCI cards, and invest in a high-quality motherboard, a good case, and a replacement for the built-in video. Then everything will be alright. ;) On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 05:35:56PM -0500, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: > Yea, > > The r series on Dell can be quite tricky, as they are the lowest priced > machines on the market, which ideally doesn't make for a good server. The > Dimension T's are much better for that, which is what I have both at home > and at work. > > However, on a technical note, the r's just have bad hardware most of the > time, with regards to FreeBSD anyways. So, I don't know what to say other > than that. But, on the whole, Dell is a very good company. > > -- Jonathan M. Slivko -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 14:48:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from equinox.datasyrge.net (ool-18ba2d21.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.45.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625BE37B718; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:48:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jslivko@datasyrge.net) Received: from localhost (jslivko@localhost) by equinox.datasyrge.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AA12984; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:52:50 -0500 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:52:49 -0501 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: Andrew Hesford Cc: FreeBSD-stable , FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: APM In-Reply-To: <20010308164413.A497@cec.wustl.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What kind of proccessor is in the xxxxr machine? If it's compatible, you can probbably just yank it out of that machine and transplant it into the Dimension T450 :) -- Jonathan M. Slivko On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Andrew Hesford wrote: > Yes, I know, but I was short on cash and wanted a simple desktop. Had I > known it would cause me this much trouble (APM, buggy video with > XFree86, crappy case, 4 PCI slots), I would have held out a while longer > with my old Dimension XPS-T450. > > I'm going to start working next week, I think I'll save the processor, > RAM, and PCI cards, and invest in a high-quality motherboard, a good > case, and a replacement for the built-in video. > > Then everything will be alright. ;) > > On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 05:35:56PM -0500, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: > > Yea, > > > > The r series on Dell can be quite tricky, as they are the lowest priced > > machines on the market, which ideally doesn't make for a good server. The > > Dimension T's are much better for that, which is what I have both at home > > and at work. > > > > However, on a technical note, the r's just have bad hardware most of the > > time, with regards to FreeBSD anyways. So, I don't know what to say other > > than that. But, on the whole, Dell is a very good company. > > > > -- Jonathan M. Slivko > -- |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Jonathan M. Slivko | | Global IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Networks | | Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Svces. | | Webpage: http://jslivko.datasyrge.net/ | | | | Come and check out AsylumNet: irc.asylum-net.org!| |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 14:55:37 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-1242.charter-stl.com [24.217.116.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBE6437B71A; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 14:55:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 8604AA8D2; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:55:24 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:55:24 -0600 From: Andrew Hesford To: "Jonathan M. Slivko" Cc: Andrew Hesford , FreeBSD-stable , FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: APM Message-ID: <20010308165523.A6615@cec.wustl.edu> References: <20010308164413.A497@cec.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jslivko@datasyrge.net on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 05:52:49PM -0501 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Believe me, I'd love to do that. Unfortunately, the processor/motherboard in the T450 use the SECC packaging for the PIII, wheræs the L733r uses the PIII Coppermine with FC-PGA packaging. Maybe, just maybe, if I hack up my old PIII-450, I can jam the new Coppermine into the old package. :) One more thing... The L733r doesn't technically have an APM BIOS. There are no APM settings in the BIOS setup. Instead, it supports ACPI, which I expect to work with the FreeBSD APM device driver for two reasons: 1) Linux APM used to work with this PC 2) I thought ACPI mobos were backwards-compatible with APM. On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 05:52:49PM -0501, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: > What kind of proccessor is in the xxxxr machine? If it's compatible, you > can probbably just yank it out of that machine and transplant it into the > Dimension T450 :) -- Jonathan M. Slivko > -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@cec.wustl.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 15: 5:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from level3.dynacom.net (level3.dynacom.net [206.107.213.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 491FE37B719 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:05:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: (qmail 1495 invoked by uid 0); 8 Mar 2001 23:05:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO urx.com) (206.159.132.160) by mail.urx.com with SMTP; 8 Mar 2001 23:05:24 -0000 Message-ID: <3AA81034.B73A84CF@urx.com> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 15:05:24 -0800 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Bert Driehuis Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ABIT KT7 and temp monitoring References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Bert Driehuis wrote: > > On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote: > > > > healthd works fine on systems that use supported monitoring chips. > > > Unfortunately the number of chips that healthd supports is pretty small > > > compared to monitoring tools on other platforms, e.g. Motherboard Monitor on > > > Windows or LM Sensors on Linux. > > > > Which says to me that the interface should be abstracted out. > > Something like a device driver that presents a /dev device that > > you can read or ioctl to get the information in a somewhat chip- > > independent fashion. > > I've toyed with this idea (actually, I've implemented it for BSD/OS 4.x > using the sysctl interface). However, there are two problems with it > that made me drop the project for the time being. > > First of all, putting it in the kernel means a rigid interface, not to > mention the associated bloat and near-constant kernel updates as new > chips get glued to motherboards (and wired in new an innovative ways). > > Second, the user needs to define what sensor means what anyway, because > of the ease of miswiring, and because a broken fan is indistinguisable > from a nonexistant fan, which means a config file must be used anyway. > > Finally, none of the monitoring chips I've seen can be detected > reliably. The ones attached to the ISA bus can be checked for sanity > with some confidence (the W83781D has a one byte id), but scanning the > I2C bus can easily lock a motherboard (I think that that's what's > causing my Intel board to act up when the ichsmb driver gets added to > the kernel). I also have a KT7. When you talked about the system hanging on the Temp and Fans message, I tried building a new release with the smbus stuff included. I don't see a hang but I also don't see any smb devices in the dmesg. Kent > > Cheers, > > -- Bert > -- > Bert Driehuis -- driehuis@playbeing.org -- +31-20-3116119 > If the only tool you've got is an axe, every problem looks like fun! > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 15:31:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix, from userid 664) id 9F22837B718; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:31:32 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:31:32 -0800 From: David O'Brien To: stable@freebsd.org, alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.3-BETA available for FTP Message-ID: <20010308153132.A53932@hub.freebsd.org> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: <20010308005359P.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010308005359P.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@osd.bsdi.com on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 12:53:59AM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 12:53:59AM -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > I don't have a set of BETA bits for the Alpha yet but those will > follow shortly. ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/snapshots/alpha/4.3-BETA-20010308 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 15:34:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61FD737B719; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:34:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f28NXVH32371; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:33:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.3-BETA available for FTP In-Reply-To: <20010308153132.A53932@hub.freebsd.org> References: <20010308005359P.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010308153132.A53932@hub.freebsd.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010308153331M.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 15:33:31 -0800 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Please move it under releases so that its location is orthogonal with the x86 bits. 4.3-BETA is not a snapshot anyway. Thanks. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 15:37: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 037B837B719; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:37:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f28Naxn88685; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:36:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:36:58 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.3-BETA available for FTP Message-ID: <20010308153658.A88605@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010308005359P.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010308153132.A53932@hub.freebsd.org> <20010308153331M.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010308153331M.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>; from jkh@osd.bsdi.com on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 03:33:31PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 03:33:31PM -0800, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > Please move it under releases so that its location is orthogonal with > the x86 bits. 4.3-BETA is not a snapshot anyway. Thanks. done. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 15:46:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bitbucket.extern.uniface.nl (bitbucket.extern.uniface.nl [193.78.88.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B357937B719 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:46:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from driehuis@playbeing.org) Received: from bh2.nl.compuware.com (unknown [172.16.17.82]) by bitbucket.extern.uniface.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C29C18288; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 00:46:11 +0100 (CET) Received: from trashcan.nl.compuware.com ([172.16.16.52]) by bh2.nl.compuware.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id GRMZR28A; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 00:46:11 +0100 Received: from c1111.nl.compuware.com (c1111.nl.compuware.com [172.16.16.36]) by trashcan.nl.compuware.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58BFC145A4; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 00:46:11 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 00:46:11 +0100 (CET) From: Bert Driehuis X-Sender: bertd@c1111.nl.compuware.com To: Kent Stewart Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: ABIT KT7 and temp monitoring In-Reply-To: <3AA81034.B73A84CF@urx.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, 8 Mar 2001, Kent Stewart wrote: > > (I think that that's what's > > causing my Intel board to act up when the ichsmb driver gets added to > > the kernel). > > I also have a KT7. When you talked about the system hanging on the > Temp and Fans message, I tried building a new release with the smbus > stuff included. I don't see a hang but I also don't see any smb > devices in the dmesg. Ah, sorry for leaving out the context in this post... I'm using an Intel CA810E, which has the Intel ICH on the motherboard. ichsmb0 is detected, but the kernel hangs when going multiuser (so before I even get to run a userland daemon to access data off the I2C bus). I haven't even figure out which hardware monitoring chip is on the board... Cheers, -- Bert -- Bert Driehuis -- driehuis@playbeing.org -- +31-20-3116119 If the only tool you've got is an axe, every problem looks like fun! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 15:48: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04C7137B718; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:47:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f28Nllr23411; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:47:47 -0800 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 15:47:47 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: Andrew Hesford Cc: "Jonathan M. Slivko" , Andrew Hesford , FreeBSD-stable , FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: APM Message-ID: <20010308154747.A21127@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <20010308164413.A497@cec.wustl.edu> <20010308165523.A6615@cec.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010308165523.A6615@cec.wustl.edu>; from ajh3@cec.wustl.edu on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 04:55:24PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 04:55:24PM -0600, Andrew Hesford wrote: > Believe me, I'd love to do that. Unfortunately, the > processor/motherboard in the T450 use the SECC packaging for the PIII, > wher=E6s the L733r uses the PIII Coppermine with FC-PGA packaging. >=20 > Maybe, just maybe, if I hack up my old PIII-450, I can jam the new > Coppermine into the old package. :) >=20 > One more thing... The L733r doesn't technically have an APM BIOS. There > are no APM settings in the BIOS setup. Instead, it supports ACPI, which > I expect to work with the FreeBSD APM device driver for two reasons: >=20 > 1) Linux APM used to work with this PC > 2) I thought ACPI mobos were backwards-compatible with APM. I can't comment on the Linux thing, but I've seen comments to the effect that ACPI-only systems are beginning to appear. You may be SOL until 5.0 if that's the case. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6qBoiXY6L6fI4GtQRAlHGAKCd94LF+ogKw8dRr6ttbeq3erwNxACdGd7V CSEBvWQk/ZoN0sScFvqqgmI= =t5w2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --bp/iNruPH9dso1Pn-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 16:23:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-1242.charter-stl.com [24.217.116.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C636B37B718; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:23:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6C527A8D2; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:23:31 -0600 (CST) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:23:31 -0600 From: Andrew Hesford To: Brooks Davis Cc: "Jonathan M. Slivko" , Andrew Hesford , FreeBSD-stable , FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: APM Message-ID: <20010308182331.A870@cec.wustl.edu> References: <20010308164413.A497@cec.wustl.edu> <20010308165523.A6615@cec.wustl.edu> <20010308154747.A21127@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010308154747.A21127@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu>; from brooks@one-eyed-alien.net on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 03:47:47PM -0800 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG That could be the case... I heard somewhere 5.0 was likely to be released toward the end of this year. Is this true, or was I smoking something? On a side note, it is not really wise to submit a message to more than one mailing list, if procmail isn't properly configured. When somebody replies to my message, and CC's both lists, I get at least three copies of the response... On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 03:47:47PM -0800, Brooks Davis wrote: > > I can't comment on the Linux thing, but I've seen comments to the effect > that ACPI-only systems are beginning to appear. You may be SOL until > 5.0 if that's the case. > > -- Brooks > > -- > Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. > PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@cec.wustl.edu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 16:29:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AC8F637B71B; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:29:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f290TYb32086; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:29:34 -0800 Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:29:34 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: Andrew Hesford Cc: "Jonathan M. Slivko" , Andrew Hesford , FreeBSD-stable , FreeBSD-questions Subject: Re: APM Message-ID: <20010308162934.A31117@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: <20010308164413.A497@cec.wustl.edu> <20010308165523.A6615@cec.wustl.edu> <20010308154747.A21127@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> <20010308182331.A870@cec.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <20010308182331.A870@cec.wustl.edu>; from ajh3@cec.wustl.edu on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 06:23:31PM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 06:23:31PM -0600, Andrew Hesford wrote: > That could be the case... I heard somewhere 5.0 was likely to be > released toward the end of this year. Is this true, or was I smoking > something? That was the plan. I've heard comments from various people who should know that it may be a bit longer then that. While the SMPng changes have been amazingly low pain considering what is being done, there's a lot of work yet to do. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6qCPtXY6L6fI4GtQRAoGCAKCWAKnH5DGaJ8YP0www9x9aOHvmUwCePfg6 heMyf2bbLvWxlhTQN+wS9Jc= =eAkX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RnlQjJ0d97Da+TV1-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 16:51:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lcremeans.homeip.net (dsl254-119-131-nyc1.dsl-isp.net [216.254.119.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4097437B719; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 16:51:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee@lcremeans.homeip.net) Received: (from lee@localhost) by lcremeans.homeip.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f290qTR03333; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:52:29 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lee) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:52:29 -0500 From: Lee Cremeans To: Andrew Hesford Cc: Lee Cremeans , questions@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ABIT KT7 and temp monitoring Message-ID: <20010308195229.A3315@lcremeans.homeip.net> References: <20010308153133.A2688@lcremeans.homeip.net> <20010308152949.A2720@cec.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010308152949.A2720@cec.wustl.edu>; from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 03:29:49PM -0600 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE Organization: My room? Are you crazy? :) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 03:29:49PM -0600, Andrew Hesford wrote: > You do have smbus and all that good stuff in your kernel, right? > > Without that stuff in my kernel, lmmon tells me my processor runs at 255 > degrees C, and the fans spin at 0 rpm. With that stuff in, my kernel > panics. :| I do, but I don't see any smb devices come up (to be expected, since this board uses a VIA chipset and there's no SMB driver for it yet :/), and ISA detection returns a chip ID of 255 either way. -lee To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 17:49:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ohm.physics.purdue.edu (ohm.physics.purdue.edu [128.210.146.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2795737B719; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:49:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from will@physics.purdue.edu) Received: (from will@localhost) by ohm.physics.purdue.edu (8.11.2/8.9.3) id f291pd550030; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 20:51:39 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from will@physics.purdue.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: ohm.physics.purdue.edu: will set sender to will@physics.purdue.edu using -f Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 20:51:39 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Thomas Moestl Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/make suff.c Message-ID: <20010308205139.U45561@ohm.physics.purdue.edu> Reply-To: Will Andrews References: <200103090113.f291DPq92459@freefall.freebsd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Vy6UCbb9EK60RK4A" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103090113.f291DPq92459@freefall.freebsd.org>; from tmm@FreeBSD.org on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 05:13:25PM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --Vy6UCbb9EK60RK4A Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 05:13:25PM -0800, Thomas Moestl wrote: > Log: > MFC of rev 1.17: fix two bugs that could make insertion and rebuilding > of null-suffix rules fail after the suffix list had been cleared. > =20 > Approved by: jkh, rwatson Thanks! --=20 wca --Vy6UCbb9EK60RK4A Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.3 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6qDcqF47idPgWcsURAlsAAJ4u+sm+ub7XjZz8FsH5FKPDTi4tlgCdEpTz GWOsu8ZeaZ4Du5CAwEFSi84= =/k+B -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Vy6UCbb9EK60RK4A-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 18:44: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from grumpy.dyndns.org (user-24-214-56-129.knology.net [24.214.56.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1497137B719; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:44:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@grumpy.dyndns.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumpy.dyndns.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f292hke00262; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 20:43:46 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@grumpy.dyndns.org) Message-Id: <200103090243.f292hke00262@grumpy.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Lee Cremeans Cc: Andrew Hesford , questions@FreeBSD.ORG, stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: ABIT KT7 and temp monitoring In-reply-to: Message from Lee Cremeans of "Thu, 08 Mar 2001 19:52:29 EST." <20010308195229.A3315@lcremeans.homeip.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 20:43:45 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Lee Cremeans writes: > On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 03:29:49PM -0600, Andrew Hesford wrote: > > You do have smbus and all that good stuff in your kernel, right? > > > > Without that stuff in my kernel, lmmon tells me my processor runs at 255 > > degrees C, and the fans spin at 0 rpm. With that stuff in, my kernel > > panics. :| > > I do, but I don't see any smb devices come up (to be expected, since this > board uses a VIA chipset and there's no SMB driver for it yet :/), and ISA > detection returns a chip ID of 255 either way. On an Asus A7V (VIA chipset) I get this far but as with the original posting about the KT7, lmmon and healthd don't read sane answers. Extract from dmesg: pcf0: at port 0x320-0x321 irq 5 on isa0 iicbus0: on pcf0 addr 0xaa iicsmb0: on iicbus0 smbus0: on iicsmb0 smb0: on smbus0 iic0: on iicbus0 # lmmon IOCTL: Operation not supported by device -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 18:50:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from grumpy.dyndns.org (user-24-214-56-129.knology.net [24.214.56.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2018B37B719 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 18:50:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dkelly@grumpy.dyndns.org) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by grumpy.dyndns.org (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f292oge00355; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 20:50:43 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from dkelly@grumpy.dyndns.org) Message-Id: <200103090250.f292oge00355@grumpy.dyndns.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Nicolas Grieco Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG From: David Kelly Subject: Re: make buildworld broken In-reply-to: Message from Nicolas Grieco of "Thu, 08 Mar 2001 14:15:19 +0100." <20010308141519.K52217@t-online.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2001 20:50:42 -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nicolas Grieco writes: > > After a cvsup -> 4.3-BETA > the make buildworld stops on : > > getopt1.o: In function `getopt_long': > getopt1.o(.text+0x1b): undefined reference to `_getopt_internal' > getopt1.o: In function `getopt_long_only': > getopt1.o(.text+0x3f): undefined reference to `_getopt_internal' > *** Error code 1 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > 1 error > *** Error code 2 > > > Did someone know why ? I have had problems with "make -j4 buildworld" but have not been able to reliably reproduce the problem. The -j4 saves about 11% in time reducing time from 62 mintues to 55 minutes on an Athlon 800. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@hiwaay.net ===================================================================== The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity -- the rest is overhead for the operating system. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 19:17:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAC6D37B719 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:17:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org ([192.168.1.1]) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14bDPe-0000Aq-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Mar 2001 16:17:54 +1300 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 16:17:54 +1300 (NZDT) From: Juha Saarinen To: Subject: Upgrading OpenSSH without make world? Message-ID: X-S: Always MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Is this possible? I have a daily cron job cvsup'ing fresh sources. How would I build just OpenSSH? -- Regards, Juha PGP fingerprint: B7E1 CC52 5FCA 9756 B502 10C8 4CD8 B066 12F3 9544 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 19:23: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org (saarinen.org [203.79.82.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A8E0A37B719 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:23:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from juha@saarinen.org) Received: from vimfuego.saarinen.org ([192.168.1.1]) by vimfuego.saarinen.org with esmtp (Exim 3.20 #1) id 14bDUZ-0000Ay-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Mar 2001 16:22:59 +1300 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 16:22:59 +1300 (NZDT) From: Juha Saarinen To: "freebsd-stable@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Upgrading OpenSSH without make world? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: X-S: Always MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Never mind... just found the SA. On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Juha Saarinen wrote: > Is this possible? I have a daily cron job cvsup'ing fresh sources. How > would I build just OpenSSH? > > -- Regards, Juha PGP fingerprint: B7E1 CC52 5FCA 9756 B502 10C8 4CD8 B066 12F3 9544 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 19:24: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A264E37B719 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:24:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14bDVb-0001lC-00 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 03:24:03 +0000 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f293O2l53997 for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 03:24:02 GMT (envelope-from jcm) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 03:24:02 +0000 From: j mckitrick To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: cvs mailing list for RELENG_4 only? Message-ID: <20010309032337.A53963@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, I recently heard that there might be filtered mailing lists out there that only contain cvs entries that are being applied to -stable. Has anyone seen these? How can I subscribe? It seems that might be a good complement to following -stable as well. jm -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- Jonathon McKitrick -- jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org To Microsoft: "Your tyranny I was part of, is now cracking on every side. Now your own life is in danger. Your Empire is on fire." Front 242 ------------------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 19:33:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from www.golsyd.net.au (golsyd.net.au [203.57.20.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5A1D637B719 for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:33:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kaltorak@quake.com.au) Received: from [203.164.12.28] by www.quake.com.au (NTMail 4.30.0012/AB6169.63.5724aadf) with ESMTP id uhnaaaaa for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 14:32:34 +1100 Message-ID: <3AA84F79.F37B4786@quake.com.au> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 14:35:21 +1100 From: Kal Torak X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.73 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: j mckitrick Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs mailing list for RELENG_4 only? References: <20010309032337.A53963@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG j mckitrick wrote: > > Hi all, > > I recently heard that there might be filtered mailing lists out there that > only contain cvs entries that are being applied to -stable. Has anyone seen > these? How can I subscribe? It seems that might be a good complement to > following -stable as well. majordomo@search.sparks.net subscribe freebsd-stable-4 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 19:42: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lcremeans.homeip.net (dsl254-119-131-nyc1.dsl-isp.net [216.254.119.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556F837B719; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 19:41:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lee@lcremeans.homeip.net) Received: (from lee@localhost) by lcremeans.homeip.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f293goQ03983; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 22:42:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from lee) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 22:42:50 -0500 From: Lee Cremeans To: David Kelly Cc: Lee Cremeans , Andrew Hesford , questions@freebsd.org, stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ABIT KT7 and temp monitoring Message-ID: <20010308224250.A3951@lcremeans.homeip.net> References: <200103090243.f292hke00262@grumpy.dyndns.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103090243.f292hke00262@grumpy.dyndns.org>; from dkelly@hiwaay.net on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 08:43:45PM -0600 X-OS: FreeBSD 3.0-STABLE Organization: My room? Are you crazy? :) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 08:43:45PM -0600, David Kelly wrote: > Lee Cremeans writes: > > On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 03:29:49PM -0600, Andrew Hesford wrote: > > > You do have smbus and all that good stuff in your kernel, right? > > > > > > Without that stuff in my kernel, lmmon tells me my processor runs at 255 > > > degrees C, and the fans spin at 0 rpm. With that stuff in, my kernel > > > panics. :| > > > > I do, but I don't see any smb devices come up (to be expected, since this > > board uses a VIA chipset and there's no SMB driver for it yet :/), and ISA > > detection returns a chip ID of 255 either way. > > On an Asus A7V (VIA chipset) I get this far but as with the original > posting about the KT7, lmmon and healthd don't read sane answers. > > Extract from dmesg: > > pcf0: at port 0x320-0x321 irq 5 on isa0 > iicbus0: on pcf0 addr 0xaa > iicsmb0: on iicbus0 > smbus0: on iicsmb0 > smb0: on smbus0 > iic0: on iicbus0 > Hmm. I'll have to try the pcf driver, it looks like. I'll let everyone know how it goes. -lee -- +--------------------------------------------------------------------+ | Lee Cremeans -- Manassas, VA, USA (WakkyMouse on WTnet) | | lcremeans@erols.com | http://wakky.dyndns.org/~lee | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 22:37:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5593E37B813; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 22:37:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gshapiro@gshapiro.net) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.0.Beta3/8.12.0.Beta3) id f296b5uQ085356; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 22:37:05 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15016.31249.709965.867202@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 22:37:05 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Odd quirk with APM support X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.2 (beta42) "Poseidon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I am running the 4.3-BETA (though the same were true for 4.2-STABLE) with a new Intel 815E EAL motherboard and trying to get APM functioning with interesting results. The machine will freeze up early in the boot sequence on normal boots (look for the (freeze) below to see where). However, if I use 'boot -c' and 'ls' followed by 'quit' inside the config utility, it boots normally (and APM works fine). Why would using 'boot -c' make a difference for APM? Below are the results of a 'boot -cv' with the '(freeze if no -c given)' added where it freezes if '-c' isn't given on the boot command. This kernel is also compiled with -DAPM_DEBUG. FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #7: Thu Mar 8 22:09:22 PST 2001 root@sparkplug.gshapiro.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/SPARKPLUG Calibrating clock(s) ... TSC clock: 863838688 Hz, i8254 clock: 1193148 Hz CLK_USE_I8254_CALIBRATION not specified - using default frequency Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CLK_USE_TSC_CALIBRATION not specified - using old calibration method CPU: Pentium III/Pentium III Xeon/Celeron (863.87-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x686 Stepping = 6 Features=0x383f9ff real memory = 267124736 (260864K bytes) Physical memory chunk(s): 0x00001000 - 0x0009efff, 647168 bytes (158 pages) 0x003db000 - 0x0feb7fff, 263049216 bytes (64221 pages) avail memory = 256274432 (250268K bytes) bios32: Found BIOS32 Service Directory header at 0xc00fda60 bios32: Entry = 0xfda74 (c00fda74) Rev = 0 Len = 1 pcibios: PCI BIOS entry at 0xda95 pnpbios: Found PnP BIOS data at 0xc00f29e0 pnpbios: Entry = f0000:229a Rev = 1.0 Other BIOS signatures found: ACPI: 000ff980 Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc03b5000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled pci_open(1): mode 1 addr port (0x0cf8) is 0x80000058 pci_open(1a): mode1res=0x80000000 (0x80000000) pci_cfgcheck: device 0 [class=060000] [hdr=00] is there (id=11308086) (freeze if not -c given) apm0: on motherboard apm: APM BIOS version 0102 apm: Code16 0xc00f0000, Data 0xc0000400 apm: Code entry 0x0000ef50, Idling CPU disabled, Management disabled apm: CS_limit=0xffff, DS_limit=0xffff apm: Engaged control enabled apm: found APM BIOS v1.2, connected at v1.2 apm: Slow Idling CPU disabled Add hook "default suspend" Add hook "default resume" And the kernel configuration file: # Preamble machine i386 # Architecture (do not change) cpu I686_CPU # Pentium Pro, Pentium II ident SPARKPLUG # Identification maxusers 64 # Sets kernel table sizes makeoptions CONF_CFLAGS=-DAPM_DEBUG # Extra CFLAGS for building # Kernel options options CD9660 # ISO 9660 filesystem options COMPAT_43 # Compatible with BSD 4.3 [KEEP THIS!] options DDB # Enable the kernel debugger options FFS # Berkeley Fast Filesystem options FFS_ROOT # Use FFS for root partition options ICMP_BANDLIM # Enable ICMP bandwidth limiting options INCLUDE_CONFIG_FILE # Include this file in kernel options INET # InterNETworking options INET6 # IPv6 communications protocols options IPDIVERT # Divert IP sockets (ifpw divert) options IPFILTER # Kernel ipfilter support options IPFILTER_LOG # ipfilter logging options IPFIREWALL # IP firewall options IPFIREWALL_FORWARD # Transparent proxy support options IPFIREWALL_VERBOSE # Print info about dropped packets options IPSEC # IP security options IPSEC_ESP # IP security (crypto; define w/ IPSEC) options IPSEC_DEBUG # Debug for IP security options IPSTEALTH # Support for stealth forwarding options IPV6FIREWALL # Firewall for IPv6 options IPV6FIREWALL_VERBOSE # Print info about dropped packets options KBD_INSTALL_CDEV # Install a CDEV entry in /dev options KTRACE # Kernel tracing options NETATALK # AppleTalk options P1003_1B # P1003_1B: Infrastructure options PERFMON # Pentium/Pentium Pro perf counters options PROCFS # Process filesystem options QUOTA # Enable disk quotas options SCSI_DELAY=8000 # Be pessimistic about Joe SCSI device options SOFTUPDATES # Kirk's Soft Updates options SYSVMSG # System V message queues options SYSVSEM # System V semaphores options SYSVSHM # System V shared memory options TCP_DROP_SYNFIN # Drop TCP packets with SYN+FIN options TCP_RESTRICT_RST # Restrict emission of TCP RST options UCONSOLE # Allow users to grab the console options USERCONFIG # boot -c editor options VISUAL_USERCONFIG # Visual boot -c editor options _KPOSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING # Add _POSIX_PRIORITY_SCHEDULING options _KPOSIX_VERSION=199309L # Version kernel is built for # Buses device isa # ISA bus device pci # PCI bus # Floppy device fdc0 at isa? port IO_FD1 irq 6 drq 2 device fd0 at fdc0 drive 0 # IDE device ata device atadisk # ATA disk drives device atapicd # ATAPI CDROM drives # SCSI peripherals device scbus # SCSI bus (required) device da # Direct Access (disks) device pass # Passthrough device (direct SCSI access) # AT keyboard device atkbdc0 at isa? port IO_KBD device atkbd0 at atkbdc? irq 1 flags 0x1 # PS/2 mouse device psm0 at atkbdc? irq 12 # VGA port device vga0 at isa? # syscons is the default console driver, resembling an SCO console device sc0 at isa? # Numeric Processing eXtension (mandatory, don't remove) device npx0 at nexus? port IO_NPX irq 13 # Advanced power management device apm0 at nexus? flags 0x20 # Serial ports device sio0 at isa? port IO_COM1 flags 0x10 irq 4 device sio1 at isa? port IO_COM2 irq 3 # Parallel port device ppc0 at isa? irq 7 device ppbus # Parallel port bus (required) device lpt # Printer device ppi # Parallel port interface device # SMB bus device smbus device smb # Ethernet device fxp # Intel EtherExpress Pro/100B # Sound (Luigi) device pcm # PC Speaker device pca0 at isa? port IO_TIMER1 # USB support device uhci # UHCI PCI->USB interface device ohci # OHCI PCI->USB interface device usb # USB Bus (required) device ugen # Generic device uhid # "Human Interface Devices" device ukbd # Keyboard device ulpt # Printer device umass # Disks/Mass storage - Requires scbus and da device umodem # USB modem support device ums # Mouse device uscanner # USB scanners # Pseudo devices pseudo-device bpf # Berkeley Packet Filter (BPF) pseudo-device ether # Generic Ethernet pseudo-device faith 1 # IPv6-to-IPv4 relaying (translation) pseudo-device gif 4 # IPv6 and IPv4 tunneling pseudo-device gzip # Exec gzipped a.out's pseudo-device loop # Network loopback device pseudo-device pty # Pseudo ttys pseudo-device snp 3 # Snoop device - to look at pty/vty/etc.. pseudo-device speaker # Play IBM BASIC-style noises out your speaker pseudo-device splash # Splash screen at start up! pseudo-device tun # Tunnel driver (ppp(8), nos-tun(8)) pseudo-device vn # Vnode driver (turns a file into a device) Finally, for completeness sake, the only items in /etc/make.conf of any consequence (non-userland flags): BOOT_COMCONSOLE_SPEED= 57600 MODULES_WITH_WORLD= yes To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 23:14:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from daedalus.cs.brandeis.edu (daedalus.cs.brandeis.edu [129.64.3.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30F1537B71B for ; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:14:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from meshko@daedalus.cs.brandeis.edu) Received: from localhost (meshko@localhost) by daedalus.cs.brandeis.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id CAA23364 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:14:21 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:14:21 -0500 (EST) From: Mikhail Kruk To: Subject: top/systat Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=KOI8-R Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8BIT Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, So what's up with nlist in systat and top? Here is the output of systat: systat: nlist: can't find following symbols: _ccpu _fscale polkan2# ls -l /usr/bin/systat /usr/bin/top /kernel -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1955980 9 ÍÁÒ 01:44 /kernel -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 55932 9 ÍÁÒ 01:01 /usr/bin/systat -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 32224 9 ÍÁÒ 01:01 /usr/bin/top cvsuped on 7th. Thanks P.S. please cc, I'm not subscribed. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 23:34:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-1242.charter-stl.com [24.217.116.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C840837B71B; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:34:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id ACE98A8D2; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 01:34:36 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 01:34:36 -0600 From: Andrew Hesford To: Gregory Neil Shapiro Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Odd quirk with APM support Message-ID: <20010309013436.A10220@cec.wustl.edu> References: <15016.31249.709965.867202@horsey.gshapiro.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15016.31249.709965.867202@horsey.gshapiro.net>; from gshapiro@freebsd.org on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 10:37:05PM -0800 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just posted a discussion on this same problem with the i810 boards. Welcome to the wonderful world of low-end Intel hardware... There seems to be no solution for the i810, probably not for the i815 either. Since there are no APM options in my BIOS configuration utility, I suspect the board only supports ACPI... Wait for 5.0 to be released. I didn't know about boot -c... worth a try. On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 10:37:05PM -0800, Gregory Neil Shapiro wrote: > I am running the 4.3-BETA (though the same were true for 4.2-STABLE) with a > new Intel 815E EAL motherboard and trying to get APM functioning with > interesting results. The machine will freeze up early in the boot sequence > on normal boots (look for the (freeze) below to see where). However, if I > use 'boot -c' and 'ls' followed by 'quit' inside the config utility, it > boots normally (and APM works fine). Why would using 'boot -c' make a > difference for APM? -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Thu Mar 8 23:37:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from horsey.gshapiro.net (horsey.gshapiro.net [209.220.147.178]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE00A37B719; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:37:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gshapiro@gshapiro.net) Received: (from gshapiro@localhost) by horsey.gshapiro.net (8.12.0.Beta3/8.12.0.Beta3) id f297boKD085884; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:37:50 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15016.34894.785670.810873@horsey.gshapiro.net> Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 23:37:50 -0800 From: Gregory Neil Shapiro To: Andrew Hesford Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Odd quirk with APM support In-Reply-To: <20010309013436.A10220@cec.wustl.edu> References: <15016.31249.709965.867202@horsey.gshapiro.net> <20010309013436.A10220@cec.wustl.edu> X-Mailer: VM 6.90 under 21.2 (beta42) "Poseidon" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG ajh3> There seems to be no solution for the i810, probably not for the i815 ajh3> either. Since there are no APM options in my BIOS configuration utility, ajh3> I suspect the board only supports ACPI... Thanks. FWIW, my BIOS does have APM options. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 0: 6:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-65-26-235-186.mmcable.com [65.26.235.186]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8444737B71B for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 00:06:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mwm@mired.org) Received: (qmail 26379 invoked by uid 100); 9 Mar 2001 08:06:27 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15016.36611.926488.382867@guru.mired.org> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:06:27 -0600 To: Andrew Hesford Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: APM In-Reply-To: <97009862@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.89 under 21.1 (patch 14) "Cuyahoga Valley" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Andrew Hesford types: > On a side note, it is not really wise to submit a message to more than > one mailing list, if procmail isn't properly configured. When somebody > replies to my message, and CC's both lists, I get at least three copies > of the response... Even with procmail properly configured, you may see multiple copies. I read the -questions digest, so see them *there* instead. Since my dedupper checks the md5 sum of the body as well as the message ID (because there are versions of MS LookOut that put the *same* message ID on every message!), it'd still miss those because of the unsubscribe message each list adds. Some sites bounce mail to multiple lists. Would that be appropriate here? http://www.mired.org/home/mwm/ Independent WWW/Perforce/FreeBSD/Unix consultant, email for more information. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 0:12:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-1242.charter-stl.com [24.217.116.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D42D37B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 00:12:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1E6CAA8D2; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:12:38 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:12:38 -0600 From: Andrew Hesford To: Mike Meyer Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: APM Message-ID: <20010309021238.A19563@cec.wustl.edu> References: <97009862@toto.iv> <15016.36611.926488.382867@guru.mired.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <15016.36611.926488.382867@guru.mired.org>; from mwm@mired.org on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 02:06:27AM -0600 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG The issue isn't that they are sent to multiple lists... it's a problem with my filtering rules. I don't mind if the same message appears in multiple lists, but my faulty filtering will dump ALL copies of the message to the SAME list, and no copies of the message to the other lists it was intended for. The issue is one of checking. I currently just send all mail tø/from freebsd-stable@freebsd.org to my -stable folder, and then send all mail to/from freebsd-questions@freebsd.org to my -questions folder. However, in a multiple-post message, they will all satisfy the to/from -stable requirement, and be moved to the -stable folder before the -questions rule can be applied. Some sort of cross-checking scheme is required, which I will think about this weekend. On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 02:06:27AM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: > > Even with procmail properly configured, you may see multiple copies. I > read the -questions digest, so see them *there* instead. > > Since my dedupper checks the md5 sum of the body as well as the > message ID (because there are versions of MS LookOut that put the > *same* message ID on every message!), it'd still miss those because of > the unsubscribe message each list adds. > > Some sites bounce mail to multiple lists. Would that be appropriate > here? > -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 0:16:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-1242.charter-stl.com [24.217.116.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A28137B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 00:16:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 52398A8D2; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:16:02 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:16:02 -0600 From: Andrew Hesford To: Mikhail Kruk Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: top/systat Message-ID: <20010309021602.B19563@cec.wustl.edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from meshko@cs.brandeis.edu on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 02:14:21AM -0500 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Two things: 1) Make sure you use /boot/loader to boot. 2) Don't strip symbols from your kernel to make it smaller. In either case, the kernel symbols aren't loaded, and top relies on them. On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 02:14:21AM -0500, Mikhail Kruk wrote: > Hi, > So what's up with nlist in systat and top? > > Here is the output of systat: > > systat: nlist: can't find following symbols: > _ccpu > _fscale > > > polkan2# ls -l /usr/bin/systat /usr/bin/top /kernel > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1955980 9 mar 01:44 /kernel > -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 55932 9 mar 01:01 /usr/bin/systat > -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 32224 9 mar 01:01 /usr/bin/top > > cvsuped on 7th. > > Thanks > > P.S. please cc, I'm not subscribed. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 0:26:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.snickers.org (snickers.org [216.126.90.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5ECFE37B71A for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 00:26:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from greg@snickers.org) Received: from spike (spike [216.126.90.2]) by mail.snickers.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CB273D46 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 03:26:01 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 03:26:01 -0500 (EST) From: Greg Prosser X-X-Sender: Reply-To: Greg Prosser To: Subject: installworld / securelevel Message-ID: X-Sysadmin-Nolife: True X-BOFH: Yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Now, before anyone spits back the "this shouldn't be done in multiuser, and shouldn't be done remotely" speech to me, remember we all have to sometimes work in not so perfect conditions. Is it possible for the FreeBSD Makefile jedi to put a kern.securelevel check into the installworld procedure? I'm fairly sure that if key files are set as schg, and securelevel as one, causing an installworld to puke mid-make probably isn't the ideal state to leave a box in, hoping it'll come back after reboot with securelevel lowered. Some of us forget to check things occasionally.. *eyes the terminal where ping is running*, I think I'm ok this time, but doing more in-depth system upgrades might pose a larger problem if userland and kernel aren't in sync.. /gnp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 0:28:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bumper.jellybaby.net (bumper.jellybaby.net [194.159.247.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CD9A37B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 00:28:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from simond@bumper.jellybaby.net) Received: (from simond@localhost) by bumper.jellybaby.net (8.9.2/8.9.2) id IAA33063; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 08:27:57 GMT (envelope-from simond) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 08:27:56 +0000 From: simond@irrelevant.org To: Mikhail Kruk Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: top/systat Message-ID: <20010309082756.B32416@irrelevant.org> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from meshko@cs.brandeis.edu on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 02:14:21AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 02:14:21AM -0500, Mikhail Kruk wrote: > Hi, > So what's up with nlist in systat and top? > > Here is the output of systat: > > systat: nlist: can't find following symbols: > _ccpu > _fscale > > > polkan2# ls -l /usr/bin/systat /usr/bin/top /kernel > -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 1955980 9 ??? 01:44 /kernel > -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 55932 9 ??? 01:01 /usr/bin/systat > -r-xr-sr-x 1 root kmem 32224 9 ??? 01:01 /usr/bin/top > > cvsuped on 7th. Try cvsuping again, I had the same problem which vanished after another cvsup. -- Simon Dick simond@irrelevant.org "Why do I get this urge to go bowling everytime I see Tux?" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 0:32:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from daedalus.cs.brandeis.edu (daedalus.cs.brandeis.edu [129.64.3.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6189637B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 00:32:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from meshko@daedalus.cs.brandeis.edu) Received: from localhost (meshko@localhost) by daedalus.cs.brandeis.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id DAA23485; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 03:32:10 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 03:32:10 -0500 (EST) From: Mikhail Kruk To: Andrew Hesford Cc: Subject: Re: top/systat In-Reply-To: <20010309021602.B19563@cec.wustl.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > 2) Don't strip symbols from your kernel to make it smaller. aaaaah Thanks! > In either case, the kernel symbols aren't loaded, and top relies on > them. btw this doesn't seem to make sense. I'd appreciate if you point me to something that would clarify this to me. I don't understand how top and friends use the symbols in kernel and I feel that I would like to know that. TIA mk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 0:56:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from chmod.ath.cx (CC2-1242.charter-stl.com [24.217.116.226]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35E5037B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 00:56:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ajh3@chmod.ath.cx) Received: by chmod.ath.cx (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 704E6A8D2; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:56:39 -0600 (CST) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:56:39 -0600 From: Andrew Hesford To: Mikhail Kruk Cc: Andrew Hesford , stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: top/systat Message-ID: <20010309025639.B19665@cec.wustl.edu> References: <20010309021602.B19563@cec.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from meshko@cs.brandeis.edu on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 03:32:10AM -0500 X-Loop: Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I'm probably going to make an ass out of myself¸ which has certainly happened before. Still, a disclaimer: I don't know what I'm talking about. Take everything I say with the whole canister of salt. As I understand it, a symbol describes the relative entry point of a function in a given block of code, so that programs know where to find the functions they are looking for. Without symbols, programs have no idea where to find functions in other programs. By removing the kernel's symbols, you are saving some space. However, you are also cutting away anything that isn't absolutely essential to running the system. When you try to run top, it looks for the symbol that represents nlist, and when it can't find it, it doesn't know where to find the nlist kernel function. I'm guessing nlist has something to do with a process list... hence, when top can't find nlist, it throws a fit. Please let me know how wrong or simplistic this understanding is... Now I'm curious, too! On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 03:32:10AM -0500, Mikhail Kruk wrote: > btw this doesn't seem to make sense. I'd appreciate if you point me to > something that would clarify this to me. I don't understand how top and > friends use the symbols in kernel and I feel that I would like to know > that. -- Andrew Hesford ajh3@chmod.ath.cx To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 0:59:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAE0137B71B for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 00:59:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 8C6E966BC4; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 00:59:37 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 00:59:37 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Mikhail Kruk Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: top/systat Message-ID: <20010309005937.A97459@mollari.cthul.hu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from meshko@cs.brandeis.edu on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 02:14:21AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 02:14:21AM -0500, Mikhail Kruk wrote: > Hi, > So what's up with nlist in systat and top? >=20 > Here is the output of systat: >=20 > systat: nlist: can't find following symbols: > _ccpu > _fscale See the FAQ. Kris --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6qJt5Wry0BWjoQKURAmrWAKDDicbT3fLCRva/BC5qnyYhTY/OdQCg1aUV UmaFCWAIiyBy//Iwbd0lm4g= =tU/o -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --/9DWx/yDrRhgMJTb-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 1: 6:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from daedalus.cs.brandeis.edu (daedalus.cs.brandeis.edu [129.64.3.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E457537B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 01:06:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from meshko@daedalus.cs.brandeis.edu) Received: from localhost (meshko@localhost) by daedalus.cs.brandeis.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA23833; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 04:06:02 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 04:06:02 -0500 (EST) From: Mikhail Kruk To: Kris Kennaway Cc: Subject: Re: top/systat In-Reply-To: <20010309005937.A97459@mollari.cthul.hu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Yeah, except that it doesn't list my problem. Well, now when I look at it I realize that if I was any smarter I'd figure it out, but I just looked at it and said to myself "Your kernel and userland are not synchronized?" nope, that's not me, and kind of ignored tha second part of the paragraph which deals with the symbols. I think FAQ should specifically say that *striped kernel will cause the same top behavoir*. Of course I might be overestemating number of people who are as dumb as I am :) > On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 02:14:21AM -0500, Mikhail Kruk wrote: > > Hi, > > So what's up with nlist in systat and top? > > > > Here is the output of systat: > > > > systat: nlist: can't find following symbols: > > _ccpu > > _fscale > > See the FAQ. > > Kris > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 1:18:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from daedalus.cs.brandeis.edu (daedalus.cs.brandeis.edu [129.64.3.179]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1519D37B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 01:18:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from meshko@daedalus.cs.brandeis.edu) Received: from localhost (meshko@localhost) by daedalus.cs.brandeis.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id EAA23842; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 04:18:10 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 04:18:10 -0500 (EST) From: Mikhail Kruk To: Andrew Hesford Cc: Subject: Re: top/systat In-Reply-To: <20010309025639.B19665@cec.wustl.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG [skip] > When you try to run top, it looks for the symbol that represents nlist, > and when it can't find it, it doesn't know where to find the nlist > kernel function. I'm guessing nlist has something to do with a process > list... hence, when top can't find nlist, it throws a fit. I think nlist *is* the list of symbols. What I get from reading kvm_nlist() it tries to lookup a given list of symbols in kernel. If it fails, top gives up. KVM_NLIST(3) more or less explains it. Now I have another questions: it seems that under some conditions kvm_nlist can fall back to some other method of getting the values: /* * If we can't use the kld symbol lookup, revert to the * slow library call. */ if (!ISALIVE(kd)) return (__fdnlist(kd->nlfd, nl)); so my question is: whould this fdnlist work in abscence of kernel symbols? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 2:13: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fling.sanbi.ac.za (fling.sanbi.ac.za [196.38.142.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9A51037B71A for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:13:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from irvine@sanbi.ac.za) Received: from tango.sanbi.ac.za ([196.38.142.79] helo=sanbi.ac.za) by fling.sanbi.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #4) id 14bJtJ-000CXz-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Mar 2001 12:12:57 +0200 Message-ID: <3AA8ACA7.BAD4D918@sanbi.ac.za> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 12:12:55 +0200 From: Irvine Short Organization: SANBI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP32) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: XF86 4 on 4.3-RELEASE? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG XF86 4 on 4.3-RELEASE? Anyone know if this will be the case? Cheers, -- Irvine Short Sys Admin SANBI, University of the Western Cape, South Africa http://www.sanbi.ac.za tel: +27-21-959 3645 fax: +27-21-959 2512 cel: +27-82-494 3828 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 2:18:32 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org (ppp102-net1-idf3-bas1.isdnet.net [195.154.52.102]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8876837B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:18:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org) Received: by melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BEC9624D02; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:18:27 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:18:27 +0100 From: Thomas Quinot To: Irvine Short Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XF86 4 on 4.3-RELEASE? Message-ID: <20010309111827.B99488@melusine.cuivre.fr.eu.org> Reply-To: thomas@cuivre.fr.eu.org References: <3AA8ACA7.BAD4D918@sanbi.ac.za> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3AA8ACA7.BAD4D918@sanbi.ac.za>; from irvine@sanbi.ac.za on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 12:12:55PM +0200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Le 2001-03-09, Irvine Short écrivait : > XF86 4 on 4.3-RELEASE? > Anyone know if this will be the case? The XFree 4 port already builds and works flawlessly on 4.2-STABLE. Thomas. -- Thomas.Quinot@Cuivre.FR.EU.ORG To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 2:19: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tao.org.uk (genius.tao.org.uk [212.135.162.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBC8937B71A for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:19:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@tao.org.uk) Received: by tao.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 100) id 2F7FC317C; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:19:07 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:19:07 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: j mckitrick Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs mailing list for RELENG_4 only? Message-ID: <20010309101906.E710@tao.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , j mckitrick , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org References: <20010309032337.A53963@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="T6xhMxlHU34Bk0ad" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010309032337.A53963@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>; from jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 03:24:02AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --T6xhMxlHU34Bk0ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 03:24:02AM +0000, j mckitrick wrote: >=20 > Hi all, >=20 > I recently heard that there might be filtered mailing lists out there that > only contain cvs entries that are being applied to -stable. Has anyone s= een > these? How can I subscribe? It seems that might be a good complement to > following -stable as well. There isn't such a list currently, but for a while every commit to cvs-all has contained a header that you can filter on for the branch that you're interested in: X-FreeBSD-CVS-Branch: RELENG_4,HEAD This contains a list of all the branches affected by that commit so you can make a procmail rule like: :0: * ^X-FreeBSD-CVS-Branch:.*RELENG_4.* my.releng4.mailbox It's my long term goal to produce a proper branch mailing list, but this means doing clever stuff with the commits because it's possible for a committer to affect more than one branch at a time. Joe --T6xhMxlHU34Bk0ad Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjqorhoACgkQXVIcjOaxUBbd1QCggbyy+Lv/DNmkCxaUYbUK0lGA 2VwAnjpkOyuWdj1zrjaJnt2a+Hdj8uME =PqXG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --T6xhMxlHU34Bk0ad-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 2:43:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from pcwin002.win.tue.nl (pcwin002.win.tue.nl [131.155.71.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA3537B71B for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:43:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from stijn@pcwin002.win.tue.nl) Received: (from stijn@localhost) by pcwin002.win.tue.nl (8.11.3/8.11.3) id f29AhPk92220; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:43:25 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from stijn) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:43:25 +0100 From: Stijn Hoop To: Josef Karthauser Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs mailing list for RELENG_4 only? Message-ID: <20010309114325.A91574@pcwin002.win.tue.nl> References: <20010309032337.A53963@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010309101906.E710@tao.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010309101906.E710@tao.org.uk>; from joe@tao.org.uk on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 10:19:07AM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 10:19:07AM +0000, Josef Karthauser wrote: > It's my long term goal to produce a proper branch mailing list, but this > means doing clever stuff with the commits because it's possible for a > committer to affect more than one branch at a time. And it would be even more cool if those MFCs would also automatically list the log messages of the committer-specified HEAD revisions. IE., someone MFCs rev. 110 of bar.c which adds foo support, committer specifies only MFC: 110 in the log message, and the mailing script retrieves the log message for HEAD revision 110 and inserts it where appropriate. That way, you can send all -current cvs mail to /dev/null... And no, I don't have patches :) --Stijn -- What would this sentence be like if it weren't self-referential? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 2:53:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.unixathome.org (ns1.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA54F37B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:53:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.int.nz.freebsd.org [192.168.0.99]) by ns1.unixathome.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f29ArAw87186; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:53:10 +1300 (NZDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Message-Id: <200103091053.f29ArAw87186@ns1.unixathome.org> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: novice in training To: Josef Karthauser Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:53:10 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: cvs mailing list for RELENG_4 only? Reply-To: dan@langille.org Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <20010309101906.E710@tao.org.uk> References: <20010309032337.A53963@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>; from jcm@FreeBSD-uk.eu.org on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 03:24:02AM +0000 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 9 Mar 2001, at 10:19, Josef Karthauser wrote: > There isn't such a list currently, but for a while every commit to > cvs-all has contained a header that you can filter on for the branch > that you're interested in: > > X-FreeBSD-CVS-Branch: RELENG_4,HEAD It's possible in theory, but how often is it done in practice? I don't recall ever seeing such an example. I've always seen it broken into two commits. > It's my long term goal to produce a proper branch mailing list, but this > means doing clever stuff with the commits because it's possible for a > committer to affect more than one branch at a time. This is also a goal of FreshPorts2. I guess we're going to have to look closely at this characteristic of the header. Either that or compile the XML at the same time as the cvs-all message is created. -- Dan Langille pgpkey - finger dan@unixathome.org | http://unixathome.org/finger.php got any work? I'm looking for some. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 2:53:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tao.org.uk (genius.tao.org.uk [212.135.162.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA4EA37B71A for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:53:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@tao.org.uk) Received: by tao.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 100) id 1EAAA31D7; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:53:43 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:53:43 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: "Michael R. Wayne" Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Interface alias accounting Message-ID: <20010309105343.C40040@tao.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , "Michael R. Wayne" , stable@freebsd.org References: <200102261920.OAA00367@manor.msen.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="YD3LsXFS42OYHhNZ" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200102261920.OAA00367@manor.msen.com>; from wayne@staff.msen.com on Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 02:20:27PM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --YD3LsXFS42OYHhNZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable For anyone that's interested, this has been MFC'd to -stable now. Use 'netstat -i' to return the stats associated with a particular interface. ATM we only support IPv4 and IPv6 stats. Joe On Mon, Feb 26, 2001 at 02:20:27PM -0500, Michael R. Wayne wrote: >=20 > Back on Nov 7, 2000, Josef Karthauser answered > my query regarding per alias accounting, suggesting that the solution > was in current and would MFC after 4.2 was released. >=20 > 4.2 was released, might this make it in before 4.3? >=20 > /\/\ \/\/ >=20 > > On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 05:39:15PM -0400, Michael R. Wayne wrote: > > > On Wed, May 17, 2000 at 01:50:13PM -0700, D. W. Piper wrote: > > > > Hi folks, > > > >=20 > > > > I'm trying to find out how to get IP accounting information for web > > > > hosting where multiple IPs are aliased to the same interface. I se= em to > > > > recall seeing something about it a few weeks ago, but I've searched= the > > > > archives, and can't seem to find the information I'm looking for. = If I > > > > recall correctly, it involved compiling in some kernel option or ot= her. > > > > Can anybody help out? > > >=20 > > > BSD/OS does this per interface right on the box, FreeBSD seems not > > > to. We've been trying for several months to get a straight answer > > > regarding FreeBSD, nobody seems to know whether it's a bug, oversight > > > or what. > >=20 > > This is in current now. I'm going to MFC it after the 4.2 release. > >=20 > > Joe --YD3LsXFS42OYHhNZ Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjqotjYACgkQXVIcjOaxUBZbggCgwnXIKZLsnP3rPbeyMehZVu10 5HIAn0hhCR6jRNBxnw2s+Xe9e1jd+lVz =0XHm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --YD3LsXFS42OYHhNZ-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 2:55:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tao.org.uk (genius.tao.org.uk [212.135.162.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A67B937B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:55:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@tao.org.uk) Received: by tao.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 100) id D136731D5; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:55:31 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:55:31 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: Dan Langille Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs mailing list for RELENG_4 only? Message-ID: <20010309105531.D40040@tao.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , Dan Langille , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010309032337.A53963@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org>; <20010309101906.E710@tao.org.uk> <200103091053.f29ArAw87186@ns1.unixathome.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="Xm/fll+QQv+hsKip" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103091053.f29ArAw87186@ns1.unixathome.org>; from dan@langille.org on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 11:53:10PM +1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --Xm/fll+QQv+hsKip Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 11:53:10PM +1300, Dan Langille wrote: > On 9 Mar 2001, at 10:19, Josef Karthauser wrote: >=20 > > There isn't such a list currently, but for a while every commit to > > cvs-all has contained a header that you can filter on for the branch > > that you're interested in: > >=20 > > X-FreeBSD-CVS-Branch: RELENG_4,HEAD >=20 > It's possible in theory, but how often is it done in practice? I don't r= ecall=20 > ever seeing such an example. I've always seen it broken into two=20 > commits. There's a difference between whether those commits are committed remotely or locally. It happens a fair amount, but it depends upon the development style of the committer. > > It's my long term goal to produce a proper branch mailing list, but this > > means doing clever stuff with the commits because it's possible for a > > committer to affect more than one branch at a time. >=20 > This is also a goal of FreshPorts2. I guess we're going to have to look= =20 > closely at this characteristic of the header. Either that or compile the= =20 > XML at the same time as the cvs-all message is created. It makes more sense to generate XML at message generation time IMO. How that intergrates into the current scheme of things however is a different question. Joe --Xm/fll+QQv+hsKip Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjqotqMACgkQXVIcjOaxUBYOGwCeNH0PFFx/WPcL6kfyYwl9BSia Gi0AoJZMuMAiiqWhzCYFNUeUGRHJ4KBl =CNgu -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Xm/fll+QQv+hsKip-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 2:59: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.unixathome.org (ns1.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DADD37B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 02:59:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.int.nz.freebsd.org [192.168.0.99]) by ns1.unixathome.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f29Awuw87228; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:58:56 +1300 (NZDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Message-Id: <200103091058.f29Awuw87228@ns1.unixathome.org> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: novice in training To: Josef Karthauser Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 23:58:56 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: cvs mailing list for RELENG_4 only? Reply-To: dan@langille.org Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <20010309105531.D40040@tao.org.uk> References: <200103091053.f29ArAw87186@ns1.unixathome.org>; from dan@langille.org on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 11:53:10PM +1300 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 9 Mar 2001, at 10:55, Josef Karthauser wrote: > > > It's my long term goal to produce a proper branch mailing list, but > > > this means doing clever stuff with the commits because it's possible > > > for a committer to affect more than one branch at a time. > > > > This is also a goal of FreshPorts2. I guess we're going to have to look > > closely at this characteristic of the header. Either that or compile the > > XML at the same time as the cvs-all message is created. > > It makes more sense to generate XML at message generation time IMO. How > that intergrates into the current scheme of things however is a different > question. Agreed. Parsing a cvs-all mail message is not the easiest thing to do. Having access to the original data at message generation time is the ideal situation. I'm sure there's a design pattern which fits this application precisely. -- Dan Langille pgpkey - finger dan@unixathome.org | http://unixathome.org/finger.php got any work? I'm looking for some. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 3: 1: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tao.org.uk (genius.tao.org.uk [212.135.162.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C2237B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 03:00:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@tao.org.uk) Received: by tao.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 100) id B3995313D; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:01:03 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:01:03 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: Dan Langille Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs mailing list for RELENG_4 only? Message-ID: <20010309110103.E40040@tao.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , Dan Langille , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <200103091053.f29ArAw87186@ns1.unixathome.org>; <20010309105531.D40040@tao.org.uk> <200103091058.f29Awuw87228@ns1.unixathome.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="mR8QP4gmHujQHb1c" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103091058.f29Awuw87228@ns1.unixathome.org>; from dan@langille.org on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 11:58:56PM +1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --mR8QP4gmHujQHb1c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 11:58:56PM +1300, Dan Langille wrote: > On 9 Mar 2001, at 10:55, Josef Karthauser wrote: >=20 > > > > It's my long term goal to produce a proper branch mailing list, but > > > > this means doing clever stuff with the commits because it's possible > > > > for a committer to affect more than one branch at a time. > > >=20 > > > This is also a goal of FreshPorts2. I guess we're going to have to l= ook > > > closely at this characteristic of the header. Either that or compile= the > > > XML at the same time as the cvs-all message is created. > >=20 > > It makes more sense to generate XML at message generation time IMO. How > > that intergrates into the current scheme of things however is a differe= nt > > question. >=20 > Agreed. Parsing a cvs-all mail message is not the easiest thing to do. = =20 > Having access to the original data at message generation time is the=20 > ideal situation. I'm sure there's a design pattern which fits this=20 > application precisely. The good thing about generating XML is that it can be hardcoded if necessary, whereas it's probably easier to use a library to decode it. If we needed to install a library on the machine that's running CVSROOT/scripts that would make it a real PITA. Joe --mR8QP4gmHujQHb1c Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjqot+8ACgkQXVIcjOaxUBYwGwCfTdArc/Sms6k9eK/wk8HeLqZ2 t2kAoMswo0tQE9e2GIfXbdMqdIL2B+ko =OrNC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --mR8QP4gmHujQHb1c-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 3: 6:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ns1.unixathome.org (ns1.unixathome.org [203.79.82.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C12B37B720 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 03:06:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Received: from wocker (wocker.int.nz.freebsd.org [192.168.0.99]) by ns1.unixathome.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f29B6Gw87314; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:06:16 +1300 (NZDT) (envelope-from dan@langille.org) Message-Id: <200103091106.f29B6Gw87314@ns1.unixathome.org> From: "Dan Langille" Organization: novice in training To: Josef Karthauser Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:06:16 +1300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Subject: Re: cvs mailing list for RELENG_4 only? Reply-To: dan@langille.org Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-reply-to: <20010309110103.E40040@tao.org.uk> References: <200103091058.f29Awuw87228@ns1.unixathome.org>; from dan@langille.org on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 11:58:56PM +1300 X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Win32 (v3.12c) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 9 Mar 2001, at 11:01, Josef Karthauser wrote: > On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 11:58:56PM +1300, Dan Langille wrote: > > On 9 Mar 2001, at 10:55, Josef Karthauser wrote: > > > > > > > It's my long term goal to produce a proper branch mailing list, but > > > > > this means doing clever stuff with the commits because it's > > > > > possible for a committer to affect more than one branch at a time. > > > > > > > > This is also a goal of FreshPorts2. I guess we're going to have to > > > > look closely at this characteristic of the header. Either that or > > > > compile the XML at the same time as the cvs-all message is created. > > > > > > It makes more sense to generate XML at message generation time IMO. > > > How that intergrates into the current scheme of things however is a > > > different question. > > > > Agreed. Parsing a cvs-all mail message is not the easiest thing to do. > > Having access to the original data at message generation time is the > > ideal situation. I'm sure there's a design pattern which fits this > > application precisely. > > The good thing about generating XML is that it can be hardcoded if > necessary, whereas it's probably easier to use a library to decode it. Agreed. > If > we needed to install a library on the machine that's running > CVSROOT/scripts that would make it a real PITA. I can't see that being necessary. If we were to provide code, it would be a plug-and-go situation. -- Dan Langille pgpkey - finger dan@unixathome.org | http://unixathome.org/finger.php got any work? I'm looking for some. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 3:21:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klapaucius.zer0.org (klapaucius.zer0.org [204.152.186.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6EE637B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 03:21:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gsutter@zer0.org) Received: by klapaucius.zer0.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id A647D239A53; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 03:21:13 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 03:21:13 -0800 From: Gregory Sutter To: Josef Karthauser Cc: j mckitrick , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: cvs mailing list for RELENG_4 only? Message-ID: <20010309032113.O45600@klapaucius.zer0.org> References: <20010309032337.A53963@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010309101906.E710@tao.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010309101906.E710@tao.org.uk>; from joe@tao.org.uk on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 10:19:07AM +0000 Organization: Zer0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-03-09 10:19 +0000, Josef Karthauser wrote: > On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 03:24:02AM +0000, j mckitrick wrote: > > > > I recently heard that there might be filtered mailing lists out there that > > only contain cvs entries that are being applied to -stable. Has anyone seen > > these? How can I subscribe? It seems that might be a good complement to > > following -stable as well. > > There isn't such a list currently, but for a while every commit to > cvs-all has contained a header that you can filter on for the branch > that you're interested in: > > X-FreeBSD-CVS-Branch: RELENG_4,HEAD > > This contains a list of all the branches affected by that commit so > you can make a procmail rule like: > > :0: > * ^X-FreeBSD-CVS-Branch:.*RELENG_4.* > my.releng4.mailbox Here are some procmail recipes that: 1. Tag commits with a header corresponding to their portion of the tree (src, ports, etc). 2. Add URLs to the CVSWeb interface for each file changed. 3. Eliminate duplicate messages. 4. Put doc commits into the doc mailbox. 5. Put RELENG_4 commits into the stable mailbox. 6. Put ports commits into the ports mailbox. 7. Put each mailing list's messages into its own mailbox. HTH. ===== # tag FreeBSD commit messages appropriately :0 * ^Sender:[ ]*owner-(freebsd-)?cvs-(all|committers)@FreeBSD.ORG * ^Subject: cvs commit: { # tag with the correct portion of the tree :0 f * ^Subject: cvs commit: \/(CVSROOT|doc|ports|src|www) | formail -i "X-FreeBSD-CVS-Tree: $MATCH" # add cvsweb urls to the bottom of each commit # courtesy hoek@freebsd.org PERLSCRIPT=' while (<>) { if (/^\s+(\d+\.)+\d+\s+\+\d+ \-\d+\s+/) { $r = $_; $r =~+s/.*?([A-Za-z]+\/.+)/http\:\/\/www.FreeBSD.ORG\/cgi\/cvsweb\.cgi\/\1/; $l = "$l$r"; } print "$_"; } print "$l"; ' :0 bf | perl -Te "${PERLSCRIPT}" } # freebsd lists BSDLISTS="(advocacy|announce|arch|chat|current|cvs-all|doc|emulation|hackers|hardware|ipfw|isp|jobs|mobile|mozilla|net|ports|ppc|qa|questions|security|small|smp|stable)" :0 * $ ^${FROM}freebsd.org { :0 Wh : freebsd.lock | formail -D 32768 $PMDIR/bsd.cache :0 : * ^X-FreeBSD-CVS-Tree: doc bsd/doc :0 : * ^Subject:[ ]*cvs commit: * ^X-FreeBSD-CVS-Branch:[ ]*RELENG_4 bsd/stable :0 : * ^X-FreeBSD-CVS-Tree: ports bsd/ports :0 : * $ ^Sender:[ ]*owner-(freebsd-)?\/$BSDLISTS | formail -i "X-Fkey: freebsd-$MATCH" >> bsd/$MATCH } ===== Greg -- Gregory S. Sutter Computing is a terminal addiction. mailto:gsutter@zer0.org http://www.zer0.org/~gsutter/ hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net/0x845DFEDD To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 4:43:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salseiros.melim.com.br (salseiros.melim.com.br [200.215.110.23]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 179E937B71C for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 04:43:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ronan@melim.com.br) Received: from fazendinha (fazendinha.melim.com.br [192.168.168.42]) by salseiros.melim.com.br (8.9.3/8.9.3) with SMTP id JAA49113 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:36:34 -0300 (EST) (envelope-from ronan@melim.com.br) Message-ID: <04c201c0a896$9878fac0$2aa8a8c0@melim.com.br> From: "Ronan Lucio" To: References: <01C0A6F1.C26E6DC0.ggross@symark.com><200103071856.f27Iuxl71513@earth.backplane.com> <03c101c0a80f$0403af20$2aa8a8c0@melim.com.br> <3AA8954B.4F3BF791@fadesa.es> Subject: Re: backup route Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:43:51 -0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Ronan Lucio wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > Does anybody knows if is possibly i create a backup route on FreeBSD? > > > > The problem is i have to default gateways, when the first have problem, > > the second starting work, so, i need to add the new route manually. > > OSPF (Open Short Path First) Hi José, Would you please be more especific to me? I didn´t understand how can I do it. Thank´s Ronan Lucio To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 4:55:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (lerami.lerctr.org [207.158.72.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 91E0F37B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 04:55:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: (from ler@localhost) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.11.3/8.11.3/20010112/$Revision: 1.13 $) id f29CtMb07283 for freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 06:55:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ler) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 06:55:22 -0600 From: Larry Rosenman To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs mailing list for RELENG_4 only? Message-ID: <20010309065522.A7220@lerami.lerctr.org> References: <20010309032337.A53963@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010309101906.E710@tao.org.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.16i In-Reply-To: <20010309101906.E710@tao.org.uk>; from joe@tao.org.uk on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 10:19:07AM +0000 X-Mailer: Mutt http://www.mutt.org/ Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG * Josef Karthauser [010309 04:19]: > On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 03:24:02AM +0000, j mckitrick wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > I recently heard that there might be filtered mailing lists out there that > > only contain cvs entries that are being applied to -stable. Has anyone seen > > these? How can I subscribe? It seems that might be a good complement to > > following -stable as well. > > There isn't such a list currently, but for a while every commit to > cvs-all has contained a header that you can filter on for the branch > that you're interested in: > > X-FreeBSD-CVS-Branch: RELENG_4,HEAD > > This contains a list of all the branches affected by that commit so > you can make a procmail rule like: > > :0: > * ^X-FreeBSD-CVS-Branch:.*RELENG_4.* > my.releng4.mailbox > > It's my long term goal to produce a proper branch mailing list, but this > means doing clever stuff with the commits because it's possible for a > committer to affect more than one branch at a time. there is a list at sparks.net: freebssd-stable-4@sparks.net managed by majordomo. Works great. LER > > Joe -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 E-Mail: ler@lerctr.org US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 5:16:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (whizzo.TransSys.COM [144.202.42.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBC7537B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 05:16:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Received: from whizzo.transsys.com (localhost.transsys.com [127.0.0.1]) by whizzo.transsys.com (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f29DGIa22211; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 08:16:19 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from louie@whizzo.transsys.com) Message-Id: <200103091316.f29DGIa22211@whizzo.transsys.com> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Andrew Hesford Cc: Mike Meyer , stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Image-URL: http://www.transsys.com/louie/images/louie-mail.jpg From: "Louis A. Mamakos" Subject: Re: APM References: <97009862@toto.iv> <15016.36611.926488.382867@guru.mired.org> <20010309021238.A19563@cec.wustl.edu> In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 09 Mar 2001 02:12:38 CST." <20010309021238.A19563@cec.wustl.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 08:16:18 -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > The issue isn't that they are sent to multiple lists... it's a problem > with my filtering rules. I don't mind if the same message appears in > multiple lists, but my faulty filtering will dump ALL copies of the > message to the SAME list, and no copies of the message to the other > lists it was intended for. > = > The issue is one of checking. I currently just send all mail t=F8/from > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org to my -stable folder, and then send all mail= > to/from freebsd-questions@freebsd.org to my -questions folder. However,= > in a multiple-post message, they will all satisfy the to/from -stable > requirement, and be moved to the -stable folder before the -questions > rule can be applied. Some sort of cross-checking scheme is required, > which I will think about this weekend. You might filter on the Delivered-To: header which is unique per list message delivery. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 5:28:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from wit379112.student.utwente.nl (wit379119.student.utwente.nl [130.89.232.129]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72E1837B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 05:28:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from niek@wit379112.student.utwente.nl) Received: by wit379112.student.utwente.nl (Postfix, from userid 1000) id C2A8C5D48; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 14:29:12 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 14:29:12 +0100 From: Niek Bergboer To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Adaptec AHC / Tape drive problems on 4.2-STABLE Message-ID: <20010309142912.A3189@wit379119.student.utwente.nl> References: <20010228131040.E71226@kaidaw.student.utwente.nl> <01022823493300.00535@shalimar.net.au> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <01022823493300.00535@shalimar.net.au>; from count@shalimar.net.au on Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 11:49:33PM +1100 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, On Wed, Feb 28, 2001 at 11:49:33PM +1100, Zero Sum wrote: > I don't know if this is going to help, SCSI can be a black art > sometimes, but I had problems going from 3-5-STABLE to 4.2-STABLE with an > Adaptec 2940UW (onboard). The most significant thing was that the > frequency dropped from 20MHz to 10MHz halving transfer speed. I never got > around to analysing the problem (as other more serious issues arose) but I > co-incidently replaced the cable with a cable that was actively terminated > (not by a switch on the last device or by a resistor). When I fitted the > new cable the problem (and sundry grumblings) vanished. It might be that > 4.2 is more sensitive to termination conditions, particularly if you are > manipulating wires to decrease the number of needed pins with the > "narrow-to-wide convertor plug needed". The 390U2W might be a little more > intelligent about termination. Just to get back at the subject: changing the speeds in the SCSI BIOS didn't help, neither did the termination setting in the BIOS. I finally "solved" (i.e. circumvented) the problem by swapping the SCSI card with a Dawi-control DC 2974 (using BSD's 'amd' driver) which was in another machine driving a scanner under NT4. The DC2974 works fine, so my work gets done, but I still don't like the fact that it didn't work under BSD. > Disclaimer: Speculation based on a single observation stretched to fit the > facts. ;) IANAA, I won't sue you.. ;) > Zero Sum Niek -- Conscience doth make cowards of us all. -- Shakespeare To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 6:44: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34BD437B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 06:44:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f29EgsH29269; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 06:42:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: irvine@sanbi.ac.za Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XF86 4 on 4.3-RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <3AA8ACA7.BAD4D918@sanbi.ac.za> References: <3AA8ACA7.BAD4D918@sanbi.ac.za> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010309064254Y.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 06:42:54 -0800 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 22 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: Irvine Short Subject: XF86 4 on 4.3-RELEASE? Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 12:12:55 +0200 > XF86 4 on 4.3-RELEASE? > > Anyone know if this will be the case? Nope. When XFree86 4.x: a) Supports a reasonable superset of all cards supported by 3.3.6 b) Doesn't halve OpenGL performance on cards like Matrox and nVidia (3dfx sucks so much on both that it's not an issue). c) Doesn't have a configuration tool which confuses new users even more than the old configuration tool did. Then I think it'll be a good time to switch. I expect that'll probably be XFree86 4.1. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 6:45:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from equinox.datasyrge.net (ool-18ba2d21.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.45.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB9B337B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 06:45:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jslivko@datasyrge.net) Received: from localhost (jslivko@localhost) by equinox.datasyrge.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA15921; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:49:46 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:49:46 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: Juha Saarinen Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Upgrading OpenSSH without make world? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Best I way I can think of doing it is just downloading the source and compiling it yourself. -- Jonathan M. Slivko On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Juha Saarinen wrote: > Is this possible? I have a daily cron job cvsup'ing fresh sources. How > would I build just OpenSSH? > > -- |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Jonathan M. Slivko | | Global IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Networks | | Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Svces. | | Webpage: http://jslivko.datasyrge.net/ | | | | Come and check out AsylumNet: irc.asylum-net.org!| |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 6:49:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from veldy.net (w028.z064001117.msp-mn.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.117.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19BEA37B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 06:49:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from HP2500B (fuggle.veldy.net [64.1.117.28]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with SMTP id E9A74BA0A; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 08:48:42 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <002f01c0a8a7$c3e9fb30$3028680a@tgt.com> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: , , "Christopher Schulte" References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010308160207.02762e18@pop.schulte.org> Subject: Re: 4.2-R, bridging and ipfilter Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 08:46:43 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG IPFILTER is an alternative to IPFIREWALL. As far as I know, IPFILTER does not work on bridged packets -- so you can not firewall you LAN transparently using a IPFILTER bridge. IPFIREWALL does filter bridged packets. However, I don't believe the stateful rules processing is as robust. I was getting errors about too many states and such -- so I went back to IPFILTER using IPNAT (using bimap). Tom Veldhouse veldy@veldy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Schulte" To: ; Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 4:03 PM Subject: Re: 4.2-R, bridging and ipfilter > At 04:48 PM 3/8/2001 -0500, arr@oceanwave.com wrote: > >Has anyone gotten bridging and ipfilter to work together with 4.2-R? > > Question: do you mean IPFIREWALL and bridging? > > If so, yes. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 6:50:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fling.sanbi.ac.za (fling.sanbi.ac.za [196.38.142.119]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD52F37B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 06:50:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from irvine@sanbi.ac.za) Received: from tango.sanbi.ac.za ([196.38.142.79] helo=sanbi.ac.za) by fling.sanbi.ac.za with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #4) id 14bODp-000ECw-00 for stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 09 Mar 2001 16:50:25 +0200 Message-ID: <3AA8EDAF.21A1A7B5@sanbi.ac.za> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 16:50:23 +0200 From: Irvine Short Organization: SANBI X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76C-SGI [en] (X11; I; IRIX 6.5 IP32) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XF86 4 on 4.3-RELEASE? References: <3AA8ACA7.BAD4D918@sanbi.ac.za> <20010309064254Y.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Thanks for the replies, all. I was asking 'cos I believe KDE 2.1 depends on it. Anyone know if KDE 2 or 1 will ship in the 4.3CD? Cheers all Irvine Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > From: Irvine Short > Subject: XF86 4 on 4.3-RELEASE? > Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 12:12:55 +0200 > > > XF86 4 on 4.3-RELEASE? > > > > Anyone know if this will be the case? > > Nope. When XFree86 4.x: > > a) Supports a reasonable superset of all cards supported by 3.3.6 > > b) Doesn't halve OpenGL performance on cards like Matrox and nVidia > (3dfx sucks so much on both that it's not an issue). > > c) Doesn't have a configuration tool which confuses new users > even more than the old configuration tool did. > > Then I think it'll be a good time to switch. I expect that'll probably > be XFree86 4.1. > > - Jordan > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Irvine Short Sys Admin SANBI, University of the Western Cape, South Africa http://www.sanbi.ac.za tel: +27-21-959 3645 fax: +27-21-959 2512 cel: +27-82-494 3828 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 6:52:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from myristaja.eenet.ee (myristaja.eenet.ee [193.40.0.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43DA137B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 06:52:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from oolberg@eenet.ee) Received: from localhost (oolberg@localhost) by myristaja.eenet.ee (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA84176 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 16:52:23 +0200 (EET) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 16:52:23 +0200 (EET) From: Imre Oolberg To: Subject: Re: XF86 4 on 4.3-RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <20010309064254Y.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, > > XF86 4 on 4.3-RELEASE? > > > > Anyone know if this will be the case? > > Nope. When XFree86 4.x: > > a) Supports a reasonable superset of all cards supported by 3.3.6 > > b) Doesn't halve OpenGL performance on cards like Matrox and nVidia > (3dfx sucks so much on both that it's not an issue). > > c) Doesn't have a configuration tool which confuses new users > even more than the old configuration tool did. Its comforting to hear that people care about new users when it concerns UNIX configuration tools :) > Then I think it'll be a good time to switch. I expect that'll probably > be XFree86 4.1. > > - Jordan Imre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 6:52:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (winston.osd.bsdi.com [204.216.27.229]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 29BCF37B71B for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 06:52:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f29EpeH32346; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 06:51:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: irvine@sanbi.ac.za Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XF86 4 on 4.3-RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <3AA8EDAF.21A1A7B5@sanbi.ac.za> References: <3AA8ACA7.BAD4D918@sanbi.ac.za> <20010309064254Y.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <3AA8EDAF.21A1A7B5@sanbi.ac.za> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010309065140K.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 06:51:40 -0800 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 13 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG From: Irvine Short Subject: Re: XF86 4 on 4.3-RELEASE? Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 16:50:23 +0200 > I was asking 'cos I believe KDE 2.1 depends on it. KDE 2.1 does not depend on XFree86 4.x. > Anyone know if KDE 2 or 1 will ship in the 4.3CD? 2.1, if they get the package bits done in time. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 6:55:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sekrit.office.oceanwave.com (laslo.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.174.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9B8D37B71B for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 06:55:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from arr@oceanwave.com) Received: (from arr@localhost) by sekrit.office.oceanwave.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f29EtZw05931; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:55:35 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15016.61158.654658.194555@sekrit.office.oceanwave.com> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:55:34 -0500 (EST) From: To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Cc: , , "Christopher Schulte" Subject: Re: 4.2-R, bridging and ipfilter In-Reply-To: <002f01c0a8a7$c3e9fb30$3028680a@tgt.com> References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010308160207.02762e18@pop.schulte.org> <002f01c0a8a7$c3e9fb30$3028680a@tgt.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.63 under Emacs 20.6.1 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5B F5 08 B3 6B 11 72 BD 19 29 1B 98 D2 94 77 D8 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG veldy> IPFILTER is an alternative to IPFIREWALL. As far as I know, IPFILTER veldy> does not work on bridged packets -- so you can not firewall you LAN veldy> transparently using a IPFILTER bridge. Ipfilter and bridging works under OpenBSD, but I have yet to hear of any success stories with FreeBSD. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 7:19:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (smtp10.atl.mindspring.net [207.69.200.246]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 481B837B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 07:19:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mvh@ix.netcom.com) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (lai-ca17b-168.ix.netcom.com [204.32.29.168]) by smtp10.atl.mindspring.net (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id KAA11636; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:19:38 -0500 (EST) Received: by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F412D113E04; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 07:19:29 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Harding To: veldy@veldy.net Cc: arr@oceanwave.com, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG, christopher@schulte.org In-reply-to: <002f01c0a8a7$c3e9fb30$3028680a@tgt.com> (veldy@veldy.net) Subject: Re: 4.2-R, bridging and ipfilter References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010308160207.02762e18@pop.schulte.org> <002f01c0a8a7$c3e9fb30$3028680a@tgt.com> Message-Id: <20010309151929.F412D113E04@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 07:19:29 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG IPFILTER works great - we use it on a T1 at work for about 20 people for NAT and transparent squid proxying and it never hiccups and there is no noticeable load on the system. IPFW defaults to a 5 minute timeout on sessions, ipfilter to 5 _days_ so it behaves much more like what people expect. I suspect that ipfilter is used for more 'industrial strength' uses. Also, the NAT in ipfilter is kernel based so it's quite fast. - Mike H. From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 08:46:43 -0600 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk IPFILTER is an alternative to IPFIREWALL. As far as I know, IPFILTER does not work on bridged packets -- so you can not firewall you LAN transparently using a IPFILTER bridge. IPFIREWALL does filter bridged packets. However, I don't believe the stateful rules processing is as robust. I was getting errors about too many states and such -- so I went back to IPFILTER using IPNAT (using bimap). Tom Veldhouse veldy@veldy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Schulte" To: ; Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 4:03 PM Subject: Re: 4.2-R, bridging and ipfilter > At 04:48 PM 3/8/2001 -0500, arr@oceanwave.com wrote: > >Has anyone gotten bridging and ipfilter to work together with 4.2-R? > > Question: do you mean IPFIREWALL and bridging? > > If so, yes. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 7:23:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from whistle.com (s205m131.whistle.com [207.76.205.131]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54DE337B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 07:23:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dhw@whistle.com) Received: (from smap@localhost) by whistle.com (8.10.0/8.10.0) id f29FNgJ28897 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 07:23:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from pau-amma.whistle.com( 207.76.205.64) by whistle.com via smap (V2.0) id xma028893; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 07:23:41 -0800 Received: (from dhw@localhost) by pau-amma.whistle.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f29FNfU50128 for stable@FreeBSD.ORG; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 07:23:41 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 07:23:41 -0800 (PST) From: David Wolfskill Message-Id: <200103091523.f29FNfU50128@pau-amma.whistle.com> To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/make suff.c In-Reply-To: <20010308205139.U45561@ohm.physics.purdue.edu> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 20:51:39 -0500 >From: Will Andrews >On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 05:13:25PM -0800, Thomas Moestl wrote: >> Log: >> MFC of rev 1.17: fix two bugs that could make insertion and rebuilding >> of null-suffix rules fail after the suffix list had been cleared. >> =20 >> Approved by: jkh, rwatson >Thanks! From me, too.... :-) And I (finally) got a chance to try the MFCed version on -STABLE (well, 4.3-BETA), and verified that amanda builds just fine using our own make (vs. gmake) now. I appreciate the efforts of all concerned in getting this in, especially prior to 4.3-R. Cheers, david -- David Wolfskill dhw@whistle.com UNIX System Administrator Desk: 650/577-7158 TIE: 8/499-7158 Cell: 650/759-0823 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 7:39:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from veldy.net (w028.z064001117.msp-mn.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.117.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF8E837B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 07:39:50 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from HP2500B (fuggle.veldy.net [64.1.117.28]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with SMTP id C46B3BA32; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:39:07 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <004901c0a8ae$cf115790$3028680a@tgt.com> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: "Mike Harding" Cc: , , References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010308160207.02762e18@pop.schulte.org> <002f01c0a8a7$c3e9fb30$3028680a@tgt.com> <20010309151929.F412D113E04@netcom1.netcom.com> Subject: Re: 4.2-R, bridging and ipfilter Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:37:08 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG But it doesn't work to protect bridged IPs. The IPFILTER code has not been integrated into the bridging code unless something has changed in the last two weeks. Tom ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Harding" To: Cc: ; ; Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 9:19 AM Subject: Re: 4.2-R, bridging and ipfilter > > IPFILTER works great - we use it on a T1 at work for about 20 people > for NAT and transparent squid proxying and it never hiccups and there > is no noticeable load on the system. IPFW defaults to a 5 minute > timeout on sessions, ipfilter to 5 _days_ so it behaves much more like > what people expect. I suspect that ipfilter is used for more > 'industrial strength' uses. > > Also, the NAT in ipfilter is kernel based so it's quite fast. > > - Mike H. > > From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" > Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 08:46:43 -0600 > Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="iso-8859-1" > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 > Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > Precedence: bulk > > IPFILTER is an alternative to IPFIREWALL. As far as I know, IPFILTER does > not work on bridged packets -- so you can not firewall you LAN transparently > using a IPFILTER bridge. IPFIREWALL does filter bridged packets. However, > I don't believe the stateful rules processing is as robust. I was getting > errors about too many states and such -- so I went back to IPFILTER using > IPNAT (using bimap). > > Tom Veldhouse > veldy@veldy.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christopher Schulte" > To: ; > Sent: Thursday, March 08, 2001 4:03 PM > Subject: Re: 4.2-R, bridging and ipfilter > > > > At 04:48 PM 3/8/2001 -0500, arr@oceanwave.com wrote: > > >Has anyone gotten bridging and ipfilter to work together with 4.2-R? > > > > Question: do you mean IPFIREWALL and bridging? > > > > If so, yes. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 7:40:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from aldan.algebra.com (aldan.algebra.com [216.254.65.224]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB78637B71B; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 07:40:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mi@aldan.algebra.com) Received: (from mi@localhost) by aldan.algebra.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id f29Fdra00972; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:39:53 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mi) From: Mikhail Teterin Message-Id: <200103091539.f29Fdra00972@aldan.algebra.com> Subject: load stays at 1 on an idle machine To: stable@freebsd.org Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:39:53 -0500 (EST) Cc: developers@freebsd.org X-Face: %UW#n0|w>ydeGt/b@1-.UFP=K^~-:0f#O:D7w hJ5G_<5143Bb3kOIs9XpX+"V+~$adGP:J|SLieM31VIhqXeLBli" real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) avail memory = 127963136 (124964K bytes) [...] ccd0: Concatenated disk driver Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xff80-0xff8f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 atapci1: port 0xfd80-0xfdbf,0xff98-0xff9b,0xff90-0xff 97,0xff9c-0xff9f,0xffa0-0xffa7 mem 0xffb60000-0xffb7ffff irq 11 at device 11.0 on pci0 ata2: at 0xffa0 on atapci1 ata3: at 0xff90 on atapci1 atapci2: port 0xfe80-0xfebf,0xffe0-0xffe3,0xffa8-0xff af,0xffe4-0xffe7,0xfff0-0xfff7 mem 0xffba0000-0xffbbffff irq 3 at device 15.0 on pci0 ata4: at 0xfff0 on atapci2 ata5: at 0xffa8 on atapci2 sym0: <875> port 0xfc00-0xfcff mem 0xffbea000-0xffbeafff,0xffbebc00-0xffbebcff irq 10 at device 17.0 on pci0 sym0: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-20, SE, parity checking sym0: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM sym0: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware. xl0: <3Com 3c905-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xff00-0xff3f irq 9 at device 19.0 on pci0 xl0: Ethernet address: 00:60:08:3e:27:1b miibus0: on xl0 nsphy0: on miibus0 nsphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A, console sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 IPv6 packet filtering initialized, default to accept, unlimited logging IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to accept, unlimited logging nsphy0: on miibus0 nsphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A, console sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 IPv6 packet filtering initialized, default to accept, unlimited logging IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to accept, unlimited logging DUMMYNET initialized (010124) ad4: 39082MB [79406/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA66 ad6: 28629MB [58168/16/63] at ata3-master UDMA66 ad10: 28629MB [58168/16/63] at ata5-master UDMA66 Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle (noperiph:sym0:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered. Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0a da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 2049MB (4197405 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 261C) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 7:41:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sekrit.office.oceanwave.com (laslo.ne.mediaone.net [24.128.174.140]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95AF337B71C for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 07:41:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from arr@oceanwave.com) Received: (from arr@localhost) by sekrit.office.oceanwave.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f29FfPS06091; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:41:25 -0500 (EST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15016.63909.246199.735389@sekrit.office.oceanwave.com> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:41:25 -0500 (EST) From: To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Cc: "Mike Harding" , , , Subject: Re: 4.2-R, bridging and ipfilter In-Reply-To: <004901c0a8ae$cf115790$3028680a@tgt.com> References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010308160207.02762e18@pop.schulte.org> <002f01c0a8a7$c3e9fb30$3028680a@tgt.com> <20010309151929.F412D113E04@netcom1.netcom.com> <004901c0a8ae$cf115790$3028680a@tgt.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.63 under Emacs 20.6.1 X-PGP-Fingerprint: 5B F5 08 B3 6B 11 72 BD 19 29 1B 98 D2 94 77 D8 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG veldy> But it doesn't work to protect bridged IPs. The IPFILTER code has not veldy> been integrated into the bridging code unless something has changed in veldy> the last two weeks. AH, here's the information I was looking for. So, essentially, it won't work. Is there any ETA on when it will be intergrated? Is it even a work in progress currently? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 7:42:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from equinox.datasyrge.net (ool-18ba2d21.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.45.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C716637B719; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 07:42:25 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jslivko@datasyrge.net) Received: from localhost (jslivko@localhost) by equinox.datasyrge.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA16103; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:46:48 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:46:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: Mikhail Teterin Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, developers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: load stays at 1 on an idle machine In-Reply-To: <200103091539.f29Fdra00972@aldan.algebra.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG What kind of other applications/services are you runing? Are you running XWindows? -- Jonathan M. Slivko On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Hello! > > I was running a single instance of SETI@Home, when I observed the load > of 2. I stopped seti and the load went down to one. It stays there for > about 20 hours already. The machine is idle: > > last pid: 1886; load averages: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 up 0+20:36:36 10:33:11 > 16 processes: 1 running, 15 sleeping > CPU states: 0.4% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 99.6% idle > Mem: 7136K Active, 20M Inact, 9024K Wired, 56K Cache, 22M Buf, 88M Free > Swap: 256M Total, 256M Free > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND > [....] > > This is a 4.3-beta: > FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #0: Tue Mar 7 22:58:18 EST 2000 > on a single Pentium-II 266MHz with 128Mb of RAM. The unusual (somewhat) > things are: no video card, two Promise-66 IDE controllers, while the on > board IDE is disabled (they are WDMA2 only). I think, this happened > before to someone, but I could not find the thread. Any clues? Thanks, > > -mi > > [...] > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz > Timecounter "TSC" frequency 265910989 Hz > CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (265.91-MHz 686-class CPU) > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x633 Stepping = 3 > Features=0x80f9ff > real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) > avail memory = 127963136 (124964K bytes) > [...] > ccd0: Concatenated disk driver > Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled > npx0: on motherboard > npx0: INT 16 interface > pcib0: on motherboard > pci0: on pcib0 > isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 > isa0: on isab0 > atapci0: port 0xff80-0xff8f at device 7.1 on pci0 > ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 > atapci1: port 0xfd80-0xfdbf,0xff98-0xff9b,0xff90-0xff > 97,0xff9c-0xff9f,0xffa0-0xffa7 mem 0xffb60000-0xffb7ffff irq 11 at device 11.0 on pci0 > ata2: at 0xffa0 on atapci1 > ata3: at 0xff90 on atapci1 > atapci2: port 0xfe80-0xfebf,0xffe0-0xffe3,0xffa8-0xff > af,0xffe4-0xffe7,0xfff0-0xfff7 mem 0xffba0000-0xffbbffff irq 3 at device 15.0 on pci0 > ata4: at 0xfff0 on atapci2 > ata5: at 0xffa8 on atapci2 > sym0: <875> port 0xfc00-0xfcff mem 0xffbea000-0xffbeafff,0xffbebc00-0xffbebcff irq 10 at device 17.0 on pci0 > sym0: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-20, SE, parity checking > sym0: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM > sym0: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware. > xl0: <3Com 3c905-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xff00-0xff3f irq 9 at device 19.0 on pci0 > xl0: Ethernet address: 00:60:08:3e:27:1b > miibus0: on xl0 > nsphy0: on miibus0 > nsphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto > fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 > fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold > fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 > sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 > sio0: type 16550A, console > sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > IPv6 packet filtering initialized, default to accept, unlimited logging > IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to accept, unlimited logging > nsphy0: on miibus0 > nsphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto > fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 > fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold > fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 > sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 > sio0: type 16550A, console > sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 > IPv6 packet filtering initialized, default to accept, unlimited logging > IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to accept, unlimited logging > DUMMYNET initialized (010124) > ad4: 39082MB [79406/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA66 > ad6: 28629MB [58168/16/63] at ata3-master UDMA66 > ad10: 28629MB [58168/16/63] at ata5-master UDMA66 > Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle > (noperiph:sym0:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered. > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0a > da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device > da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled > da0: 2049MB (4197405 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 261C) > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > -- |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Jonathan M. Slivko | | Global IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Networks | | Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Svces. | | Webpage: http://jslivko.datasyrge.net/ | | | | Come and check out AsylumNet: irc.asylum-net.org!| |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 7:45:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from veldy.net (w028.z064001117.msp-mn.dsl.cnc.net [64.1.117.28]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20D4837B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 07:45:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from veldy@veldy.net) Received: from HP2500B (fuggle.veldy.net [64.1.117.28]) by veldy.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1AAC6BA0A; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:44:33 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <005d01c0a8af$912e7ce0$3028680a@tgt.com> From: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" To: Cc: "Mike Harding" , , , References: <5.0.2.1.0.20010308160207.02762e18@pop.schulte.org><002f01c0a8a7$c3e9fb30$3028680a@tgt.com><20010309151929.F412D113E04@netcom1.netcom.com><004901c0a8ae$cf115790$3028680a@tgt.com> <15016.63909.246199.735389@sekrit.office.oceanwave.com> Subject: Re: 4.2-R, bridging and ipfilter Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:42:33 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I don't think it is on their list to EVER do, or at least it is very low priority. I asked the same question a long while back. Tom Veldhouse veldy@veldy.net ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Thomas T. Veldhouse" Cc: "Mike Harding" ; ; ; Sent: Friday, March 09, 2001 9:41 AM Subject: Re: 4.2-R, bridging and ipfilter > > veldy> But it doesn't work to protect bridged IPs. The IPFILTER code has not > veldy> been integrated into the bridging code unless something has changed in > veldy> the last two weeks. > > AH, here's the information I was looking for. So, essentially, it won't > work. Is there any ETA on when it will be intergrated? Is it even a work in > progress currently? > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 7:59: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from serenity.mcc.ac.uk (serenity.mcc.ac.uk [130.88.200.93]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CBB5D37B719; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 07:58:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jcm@freebsd-uk.eu.org) Received: from dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org ([130.88.200.97] ident=root) by serenity.mcc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 2.05 #4) id 14bPI5-000Gep-00; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:58:53 +0000 Received: (from jcm@localhost) by dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org (8.11.1/8.11.1) id f29FwqF58495; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:58:52 GMT (envelope-from jcm) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:58:52 +0000 From: j mckitrick To: "Jonathan M. Slivko" Cc: Mikhail Teterin , stable@freebsd.org, developers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: load stays at 1 on an idle machine Message-ID: <20010309155852.A58289@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> References: <200103091539.f29Fdra00972@aldan.algebra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 1.0.1i In-Reply-To: ; from jslivko@datasyrge.net on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 10:46:48AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 10:46:48AM -0500, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: | What kind of other applications/services are you runing? Are you running | XWindows? -- Jonathan M. Slivko No video card, right? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 8: 2:42 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from equinox.datasyrge.net (ool-18ba2d21.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.45.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD56537B719; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 08:02:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jslivko@datasyrge.net) Received: from localhost (jslivko@localhost) by equinox.datasyrge.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA16139; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:05:55 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:05:55 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: j mckitrick Cc: Mikhail Teterin , stable@freebsd.org, developers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: load stays at 1 on an idle machine In-Reply-To: <20010309155852.A58289@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Ooops.... my mistake. -- Jonathan M. Slivko On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, j mckitrick wrote: > On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 10:46:48AM -0500, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: > | What kind of other applications/services are you runing? Are you running > | XWindows? -- Jonathan M. Slivko > > No video card, right? > -- |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Jonathan M. Slivko | | Global IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Networks | | Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Svces. | | Webpage: http://jslivko.datasyrge.net/ | | | | Come and check out AsylumNet: irc.asylum-net.org!| |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 8:42:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ohm.physics.purdue.edu (ohm.physics.purdue.edu [128.210.146.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9448537B71A; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 08:42:35 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from will@physics.purdue.edu) Received: (from will@localhost) by ohm.physics.purdue.edu (8.11.2/8.9.3) id f29GiZO52095; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:44:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from will@physics.purdue.edu) X-Authentication-Warning: ohm.physics.purdue.edu: will set sender to will@physics.purdue.edu using -f Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:44:35 -0500 From: Will Andrews To: Mikhail Teterin Cc: FreeBSD Stable Subject: Re: load stays at 1 on an idle machine Message-ID: <20010309114435.B45561@ohm.physics.purdue.edu> Reply-To: FreeBSD Stable References: <200103091539.f29Fdra00972@aldan.algebra.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="AXo2lOxbfudqq8ta" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103091539.f29Fdra00972@aldan.algebra.com>; from mi@aldan.algebra.com on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 10:39:53AM -0500 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --AXo2lOxbfudqq8ta Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 10:39:53AM -0500, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > I was running a single instance of SETI@Home, when I observed the load > of 2. I stopped seti and the load went down to one. It stays there for > about 20 hours already. The machine is idle: >=20 > last pid: 1886; load averages: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 up 0+20:36:36 10= :33:11 > 16 processes: 1 running, 15 sleeping > CPU states: 0.4% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 99.6% = idle > Mem: 7136K Active, 20M Inact, 9024K Wired, 56K Cache, 22M Buf, 88M Free > Swap: 256M Total, 256M Free >=20 > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND > [....] top(1) doesn't show all stats relevant to the load average. Check vmstat/systat/iostat/netstat/etc. Besides, the load average is a worthless metric if you ask me. --=20 wca --AXo2lOxbfudqq8ta Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.3 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6qQhyF47idPgWcsURAr7WAJ9aoVCNbI+FToPHG1b40C4EthMo/wCfYyE2 +S8C52aan6ehdVvof4aWR9U= =hDo3 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --AXo2lOxbfudqq8ta-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 8:54:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from comm.uni-svishtov.bg (ns.uni-svishtov.bg [193.68.172.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB6B37B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 08:54:11 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rvasilev@uni-svishtov.bg) Received: from grinch.uni-svishtov.bg (root@grinch.uni-svishtov.bg [193.68.172.9]) by comm.uni-svishtov.bg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA06285 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:53:28 +0200 (EET) Received: from deckland (deckland.uni-svishtov.bg [193.68.173.82]) by grinch.uni-svishtov.bg (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id SAA12548 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:53:28 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <006201c0a897$efa267e0$52ad44c1@unisvishtov.bg> From: "Radoslav Vasilev" To: Subject: can't add remote users on mysql323-server Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:53:27 +0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005F_01C0A8CA.39F08CA0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01C0A8CA.39F08CA0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The problem I've never had before is that I can't add remote new user on = mysql-server 3.23 . I've got an FreeBSD 4-2 machine, and installed mysql as a port = (databases/mysql323-server). I've the habit ot doing 'insert into = user.... and flush privileges ' way of adding users on two other mysql = servers(3.22). Doing plain telnet mysqlhost 3306 prints:=20 'You are not wellcome to use mysqld from clienthost.domain.xx' , making = me thing the privilege system is not updated after my insert. I've tried = all the possible way of defining my host - as a clienthost, = clienthost.domain.xx , ip-address etc. So, I wonder does it have = something to do with updating of the server ( tracking 4-Stable branch) I'll appreciate any idea where the problem might be, any hint, = whatever. I just can't afford new compilation. At least=20 ------=_NextPart_000_005F_01C0A8CA.39F08CA0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

The problem I've never had before = is that I=20 can't add remote new user on mysql-server 3.23 .
I've got an FreeBSD 4-2 machine, and = installed=20 mysql as a port (databases/mysql323-server). I've the habit ot doing = 'insert=20 into user.... and flush privileges ' way of adding users on two other = mysql=20 servers(3.22).
 Doing plain telnet mysqlhost 3306 prints: =
'You are=20 not wellcome to use mysqld from clienthost.domain.xx' , making me thing = the=20 privilege system is not updated after my insert. I've tried all the = possible way=20 of defining my host - as a clienthost, clienthost.domain.xx , ip-address = etc.=20 So, I wonder does it have something to do with updating of the server ( = tracking=20 4-Stable branch)
I'll appreciate  any idea where the problem = might be,=20 any hint, whatever. I just can't afford new compilation. At least=20
------=_NextPart_000_005F_01C0A8CA.39F08CA0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 8:57:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from equinox.datasyrge.net (ool-18ba2d21.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.45.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B446C37B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 08:57:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jslivko@datasyrge.net) Received: from localhost (jslivko@localhost) by equinox.datasyrge.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id MAA16293; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:00:19 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:00:19 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: Radoslav Vasilev Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: can't add remote users on mysql323-server In-Reply-To: <006201c0a897$efa267e0$52ad44c1@unisvishtov.bg> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Have you tried adding an /etc/hosts.allow line for in.mysqld: your hostname/ip address? That might do the trick. -- Jonathan M. Slivko On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Radoslav Vasilev wrote: > > The problem I've never had before is that I can't add remote new user on mysql-server 3.23 . > I've got an FreeBSD 4-2 machine, and installed mysql as a port (databases/mysql323-server). I've the habit ot doing 'insert into user.... and flush privileges ' way of adding users on two other mysql servers(3.22). > Doing plain telnet mysqlhost 3306 prints: > 'You are not wellcome to use mysqld from clienthost.domain.xx' , making me thing the privilege system is not updated after my insert. I've tried all the possible way of defining my host - as a clienthost, clienthost.domain.xx , ip-address etc. So, I wonder does it have something to do with updating of the server ( tracking 4-Stable branch) > I'll appreciate any idea where the problem might be, any hint, whatever. I just can't afford new compilation. At least > > -- |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Jonathan M. Slivko | | Global IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Networks | | Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Svces. | | Webpage: http://jslivko.datasyrge.net/ | | | | Come and check out AsylumNet: irc.asylum-net.org!| |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 9:26:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from point.osg.gov.bc.ca (point.osg.gov.bc.ca [142.32.102.44]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6482E37B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:26:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@uumail.gov.bc.ca) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by point.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.8.7/8.8.8) id JAA29975; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:26:18 -0800 Received: from passer.osg.gov.bc.ca(142.32.110.29) via SMTP by point.osg.gov.bc.ca, id smtpda29973; Fri Mar 9 09:26:10 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by passer.osg.gov.bc.ca (8.11.2/8.9.1) id f29HQ5Y60935; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:26:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from cwsys9.cwsent.com(10.2.2.1), claiming to be "cwsys.cwsent.com" via SMTP by passer9.cwsent.com, id smtpdy60933; Fri Mar 9 09:25:26 2001 Received: (from uucp@localhost) by cwsys.cwsent.com (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f29HPQR31493; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:25:26 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <200103091725.f29HPQR31493@cwsys.cwsent.com> Received: from localhost.cwsent.com(127.0.0.1), claiming to be "cwsys" via SMTP by localhost.cwsent.com, id smtpdc31485; Fri Mar 9 09:24:46 2001 X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 Reply-To: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group From: Cy Schubert - ITSD Open Systems Group X-Sender: schubert To: FreeBSD Stable Cc: Mikhail Teterin Subject: Re: load stays at 1 on an idle machine In-reply-to: Your message of "Fri, 09 Mar 2001 11:44:35 EST." <20010309114435.B45561@ohm.physics.purdue.edu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 09:24:46 -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <20010309114435.B45561@ohm.physics.purdue.edu>, Will Andrews writes: > > --AXo2lOxbfudqq8ta > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 10:39:53AM -0500, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > I was running a single instance of SETI@Home, when I observed the load > > of 2. I stopped seti and the load went down to one. It stays there for > > about 20 hours already. The machine is idle: > >=20 > > last pid: 1886; load averages: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 up 0+20:36:36 10= > :33:11 > > 16 processes: 1 running, 15 sleeping > > CPU states: 0.4% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 99.6% = > idle > > Mem: 7136K Active, 20M Inact, 9024K Wired, 56K Cache, 22M Buf, 88M Free > > Swap: 256M Total, 256M Free > >=20 > > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND > > [....] > > top(1) doesn't show all stats relevant to the load average. Check > vmstat/systat/iostat/netstat/etc. Besides, the load average is a > worthless metric if you ask me. Load average, the average run queue length over a period of time, is a good indicator of whether you need to look elsewhere for problems. I usually look at the load average first. Some OLTP applications behave poorly with a load average < 1.0, e.g. for these applications CPU > 80% is usually bad. Other applications can tolerate higher load before performance sucks. Load average is O/S dependent. For example load average > 1.5 on Tru64-UNIX systems generally affects performance, while most of the applications on the Sun systems I manage can handle load averages < 3.0 quite nicely. With the workloads I run on the small farm of FreeBSD systems my team manages, we can push the load average to 4 or 5 before I begin to notice a degradation in response. Load average is a good INITIAL temperature gauge when you understand the system and the application running on a particular system. Beyond that you need to drill down further. IMO, load averages > 1.0 per CPU, e.g. 3.0 on a 3 CPU system, affects throughput (not the same as response time). If I may digress, scan rate on FreeBSD and Tru64-UNIX systems is a somewhat meaningless indicator of memory utilisation, while page-outs and to a lesser extent page-ins are indicative of memory shortage. While on the other hand Solaris scan rate and page reclaims is an excellent indicator of when to purchase more memory. My point is that one cannot use just one metric to analyse the performance of a system and hence recommend the purchase of hardware upgrades. The metrics used to analyse a system are not the same across platforms. A number of factors need to be taken into account, not the least of which are the O/S, hardware platform, and application. Regards, Phone: (250)387-8437 Cy Schubert Fax: (250)387-5766 Team Leader, Sun/Alpha Team Internet: Cy.Schubert@osg.gov.bc.ca Open Systems Group, ITSD, ISTA Province of BC To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 9:30:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from comm.uni-svishtov.bg (ns.uni-svishtov.bg [193.68.172.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 85C6D37B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:30:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rvasilev@uni-svishtov.bg) Received: from grinch.uni-svishtov.bg (root@grinch.uni-svishtov.bg [193.68.172.9]) by comm.uni-svishtov.bg (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id TAA06810 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 19:30:12 +0200 (EET) Received: from deckland (deckland.uni-svishtov.bg [193.68.173.82]) by grinch.uni-svishtov.bg (8.9.3/8.9.1) with SMTP id TAA13184 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 19:30:11 +0200 (EET) Message-ID: <008001c0a89d$11169b80$52ad44c1@unisvishtov.bg> From: "Radoslav Vasilev" To: Subject: can't add new remote user on mysql323-server Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 19:30:11 +0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_007D_01C0A8CF.5B758920" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_007D_01C0A8CF.5B758920 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The problem I've never had before is that I can't add remote new user on = mysql-server 3.23 . I've got an FreeBSD 4-2 machine, and installed mysql as a port = (databases/mysql323-server). I'm in habit of doing 'insert into user.... = and flush privileges ' way of adding users on two other mysql = servers(3.22) as well, but not on that machine.. Doing plain telnet mysqlhost 3306 prints:=20 'You are not wellcome to use mysqld from clienthost.domain.xx' , making = me thing the privilege system is not updated after my insert. I've tried = all the possible ways of defining my host - as a clienthost, = clienthost.domain.xx , ip-address, '%' etc. So, I wonder does it have = something to do with updating of my server ( tracking 4-Stable branch,) = 2 weeks ago? 'll appreciate any idea where the problem might be, any hint, whatever. = I just can't afford new compilation. At least=20 ------=_NextPart_000_007D_01C0A8CF.5B758920 Content-Type: text/html; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The problem I've never had before is = that I can't=20 add remote new user on mysql-server 3.23 .
I've got an FreeBSD 4-2 machine, and = installed=20 mysql as a port (databases/mysql323-server). I'm in habit of doing = 'insert into=20 user.... and flush privileges ' way of adding users on two other mysql=20 servers(3.22) as well, but not on that machine..
 Doing plain = telnet=20 mysqlhost 3306 prints:
'You are not wellcome to use mysqld from=20 clienthost.domain.xx' , making me thing the privilege system is not = updated=20 after my insert. I've tried all the possible ways of defining my host - = as a=20 clienthost, clienthost.domain.xx , ip-address, '%' etc. So, I wonder = does it=20 have something to do with updating of my server ( tracking 4-Stable = branch,) 2=20 weeks ago?
'll appreciate  any idea where the problem might be, = any=20 hint, whatever. I just can't afford new compilation. At least=20
------=_NextPart_000_007D_01C0A8CF.5B758920-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 9:42:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from odin.ac.hmc.edu (Odin.AC.HMC.Edu [134.173.32.75]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8627D37B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:42:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from brdavis@odin.ac.hmc.edu) Received: (from brdavis@localhost) by odin.ac.hmc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) id f29HgHc05965; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:42:17 -0800 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:42:17 -0800 From: Brooks Davis To: Greg Prosser Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installworld / securelevel Message-ID: <20010309094217.A2487@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: ; from greg@snickers.org on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 03:26:01AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 03:26:01AM -0500, Greg Prosser wrote: > Is it possible for the FreeBSD Makefile jedi to put a kern.securelevel > check into the installworld procedure? I'm fairly sure that if key files > are set as schg, and securelevel as one, causing an installworld to puke > mid-make probably isn't the ideal state to leave a box in, hoping it'll > come back after reboot with securelevel lowered. Some of us forget to > check things occasionally.. *eyes the terminal where ping is running*, I > think I'm ok this time, but doing more in-depth system upgrades might pose > a larger problem if userland and kernel aren't in sync.. I'd suggest you write yourself a script and use it religiously. Securelevels are definaly in the catagory of thing to be used at your own risk and only with full knowledge of their effects. I doubt anyone is going to add anti-foot-shooting code to check for them. Given what limited use they are, I never use them. It's just too much pain. -- Brooks --=20 Any statement of the form "X is the one, true Y" is FALSE. PGP fingerprint 655D 519C 26A7 82E7 2529 9BF0 5D8E 8BE9 F238 1AD4 --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6qRX4XY6L6fI4GtQRAm3BAKDbV4wa+YSe4iG/GTdLj22BabkrSACfTQmn 8QvICG16VQW1Uy5hla7TBcA= =omLn -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --SLDf9lqlvOQaIe6s-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 9:42:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.tiscalinet.it (mail-7.tiscalinet.it [195.130.225.153]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA46D37B71D for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:42:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dastjeja@tiscalinet.it) Received: from server (62.10.35.247) by mail.tiscalinet.it (5.5.015.5) id 3AA4B71F000D58AE for freebsd-stable@freebsd.org; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:42:43 +0100 Message-ID: <001f01c0a8c0$52d67ef0$0b00a8c0@server> Reply-To: "Dariusz Stojek" From: "Dariusz Stojek" To: Subject: Samba and & trasfering problems... Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:42:33 +0100 Organization: mo chroi jeja MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Anybody know something about trasnsfer problems from samba to win2000? what's happened? I was so slow from win2000 to samba & now I have a good transfer... from win2000 to samba? what was changed? something in TCP/IP or something else? I'm not so close to this world but I'm glad because I can use my system very well, best regards, darek -- Dariusz Stojek There is no need like the lack of friends ...mo chroi jeja an-deas ---------------------------------------------------------------- by the way: FreeBSD base.darek.it 4.3-BETA #9: Thu Mar 1 09:29:31 CEST 2001 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 9:57: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from bitbucket.extern.uniface.nl (bitbucket.extern.uniface.nl [193.78.88.139]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3B6337B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:56:59 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bert_driehuis@nl.compuware.com) Received: from bh2.nl.compuware.com (unknown [172.16.17.82]) by bitbucket.extern.uniface.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA2048296 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:56:57 +0100 (CET) Received: from c1111.nl.compuware.com ([172.16.16.36]) by bh2.nl.compuware.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2650.21) id GRMZRV5V; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:56:57 +0100 Received: from nl.compuware.com (bertd@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by c1111.nl.compuware.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA02037 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:56:57 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <3AA91969.80E08825@nl.compuware.com> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 18:56:57 +0100 From: Bert Driehuis Organization: Compuware Europe (but I only speak for myself) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (X11; U; BSD/OS 4.1 i386) X-Accept-Language: en, fr MIME-Version: 1.0 To: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: installworld / securelevel References: <20010309094217.A2487@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Brooks Davis wrote: > I'd suggest you write yourself a script and use it religiously. > Securelevels are definaly in the catagory of thing to be used at your > own risk and only with full knowledge of their effects. I doubt > anyone is going to add anti-foot-shooting code to check for them. Given > what limited use they are, I never use them. It's just too much pain. In that case, the default install should not be installing things like the kernel with the schg set. The way it is now violates the principle of least astonishment. Cheers, -- Bert -- Bert Driehuis, MIS -- bert_driehuis@nl.compuware.com -- +31-20-3116119 Dihydrogen Monoxide kills! Join the campaign at http://www.dhmo.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 9:57:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mercury.aepnet.com (hyperion.aepnet.com [208.129.247.7]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61CED37B71B for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:57:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from chris@aepnet.com) Received: from mercury (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mercury.aepnet.com (8.10.2/8.10.2) with SMTP id f29HvLC00888; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:57:22 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <200103091757.f29HvLC00888@mercury.aepnet.com> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:57:20 -0700 From: chris reaume Reply-To: chris@aepnet.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Subject: Re: load stays at 1 on an idle machine Cc: stable@freebsd.org To: Mikhail Teterin X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.343) Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v343) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I've noticed I tend to get this behavior when I've got a zombie process = somewhere, so you might check that too. thanks, chris On Friday, March 9, 2001, at 08:39 AM, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > Hello!=20 > =20 > I was running a single instance of SETI@Home, when I observed the load=20= > of 2. I stopped seti and the load went down to one. It stays there for=20= > about 20 hours already. The machine is idle:=20 > =20 > last pid: 1886; load averages: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 up 0+20:36:36 = 10:33:11=20 > 16 processes: 1 running, 15 sleeping=20 > CPU states: 0.4% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, = 99.6% idle=20 > Mem: 7136K Active, 20M Inact, 9024K Wired, 56K Cache, 22M Buf, 88M = Free=20 > Swap: 256M Total, 256M Free=20 > =20 > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU = COMMAND=20 > [....]=20 > =20 > This is a 4.3-beta:=20 > FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #0: Tue Mar 7 22:58:18 EST 2000=20 > on a single Pentium-II 266MHz with 128Mb of RAM. The unusual = (somewhat)=20 > things are: no video card, two Promise-66 IDE controllers, while the = on=20 > board IDE is disabled (they are WDMA2 only). I think, this = happened=20 > before to someone, but I could not find the thread. Any clues? Thanks,=20= > =20 > -mi=20 > =20 > [...]=20 > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz=20 > Timecounter "TSC" frequency 265910989 Hz=20 > CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (265.91-MHz 686-class CPU)=20 > Origin =3D "GenuineIntel" Id =3D 0x633 Stepping =3D 3=20 > =20 > = Features=3D0x80f9ff=20 > real memory =3D 134217728 (131072K bytes)=20 > avail memory =3D 127963136 (124964K bytes)=20 > [...]=20 > ccd0: Concatenated disk driver=20 > Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled=20 > npx0: on motherboard=20 > npx0: INT 16 interface=20 > pcib0: on motherboard=20 > pci0: on pcib0=20 > isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0=20 > isa0: on isab0=20 > atapci0: port 0xff80-0xff8f at device 7.1 = on pci0=20 > ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0=20 > atapci1: port = 0xfd80-0xfdbf,0xff98-0xff9b,0xff90-0xff=20 > 97,0xff9c-0xff9f,0xffa0-0xffa7 mem 0xffb60000-0xffb7ffff irq 11 at = device 11.0 on=20 > pci0=20 > ata2: at 0xffa0 on atapci1=20 > ata3: at 0xff90 on atapci1=20 > atapci2: port = 0xfe80-0xfebf,0xffe0-0xffe3,0xffa8-0xff=20 > af,0xffe4-0xffe7,0xfff0-0xfff7 mem 0xffba0000-0xffbbffff irq 3 at = device 15.0 on pci0=20 > ata4: at 0xfff0 on atapci2=20 > ata5: at 0xffa8 on atapci2=20 > sym0: <875> port 0xfc00-0xfcff mem = 0xffbea000-0xffbeafff,0xffbebc00-0xffbebcff irq=20 > 10 at device 17.0 on pci0=20 > sym0: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-20, SE, parity checking=20 > sym0: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM=20 > sym0: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware.=20 > xl0: <3Com 3c905-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xff00-0xff3f irq 9 at = device 19.0 on pci0=20 > xl0: Ethernet address: 00:60:08:3e:27:1b=20 > miibus0: on xl0=20 > nsphy0: on miibus0=20 > nsphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto=20 > fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on = isa0=20 > fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold=20 > fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0=20 > sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0=20 > sio0: type 16550A, console=20 > sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0=20 > IPv6 packet filtering initialized, default to accept, unlimited = logging=20 > IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding = enabled,=20 > default to accept, unlimited logging=20 > nsphy0: on miibus0=20 > nsphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto=20 > fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on = isa0=20 > fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold=20 > fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0=20 > sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0=20 > sio0: type 16550A, console=20 > sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0=20 > IPv6 packet filtering initialized, default to accept, unlimited = logging=20 > IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding = enabled,=20 > default to accept, unlimited logging=20 > DUMMYNET initialized (010124)=20 > ad4: 39082MB [79406/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA66=20 > ad6: 28629MB [58168/16/63] at ata3-master = UDMA66=20 > ad10: 28629MB [58168/16/63] at ata5-master = UDMA66=20 > Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle=20 > (noperiph:sym0:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered.=20 > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0a=20 > da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0=20 > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device =20 > da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged = Queueing Enabled=20 > da0: 2049MB (4197405 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 261C)=20 > =20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org=20 > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message=20 > =20 > =20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 10:15:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lurza.secnetix.de (lurza.secnetix.de [212.66.1.130]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D53B37B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:14:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from olli@lurza.secnetix.de) Received: (from olli@localhost) by lurza.secnetix.de (8.9.3/8.9.3) id TAA91443; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 19:14:55 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from oliver.fromme@secnetix.de) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 19:14:55 +0100 (CET) Message-Id: <200103091814.TAA91443@lurza.secnetix.de> From: Oliver Fromme To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Reply-To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: nullfs et al X-Newsgroups: list.freebsd-stable User-Agent: tin/1.5.4-20000523 ("1959") (UNIX) (FreeBSD/4.1-RELEASE (i386)) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, What is the "proper" way to mount binaries etc. into a bunch of jail homes? Obviously, I don't want to copy /bin, /usr/bin, /usr/lib etc. for every jailed user. BTW, I'm using 4-stable. I've grepped the lists and found the following possible solutions: (A) Local NFS loopback mounts. Seems to work reliably. Is this the best way? Somehow it is my impression that the NFS causes some overhead and might cause some performance impact. Any opinions? BTW, this particular machine doesn't use any NFS otherwise (neither client nor server). (B) NULLFS (mount_null). The manpage contains explicit warnings, so using this is probably not a good idea. However, if the mounted directory is read-only and all NULLFS mounts are read-only, too, does it still cause crashes, or would this be more secure? Apparently NULLFS has been fixed in 5-current, but I don't want to run -current on this machine. (C) UNIONFS (mount_union), possibly with the -r option, which seems to be pretty much the same functionality as NULLFS. The manpage contains the same warning, however, I've seen opinions in the list archives that UNIONFS is more stable than NULLFS, in particular when used read-only. Anyone with more experiences on this? (D) Copy the partition data in the disklabel, so that multiple partitions occupy the same physical space on the disk (e.g. da0s1g and da0s1h point to the same filesystem), then mount each of them read-only. Would this be safe? The only thing that I don't like about this approach is that it doesn't scale very well, because each disklabel only holds 8 partition entries, so I would need a slice for every 8 jails. I'd appreciate any comments. Regards Oliver PS: Any replies back to the mailing list, please. No need to Cc me, as I do read the list. -- Oliver Fromme, secnetix GmbH & Co KG, Oettingenstr. 2, 80538 München Any opinions expressed in this message may be personal to the author and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of secnetix in any way. "All that we see or seem is just a dream within a dream" (E. A. Poe) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 10:23:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (GndRsh.dnsmgr.net [198.145.92.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D112537B71B for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:23:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) id KAA29463; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:22:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <200103091822.KAA29463@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: panic, ipfw broken in stable? In-Reply-To: <20010307191526.A60472@astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua> from "Dmitry A. Yanko" at "Mar 7, 2001 07:15:26 pm" To: fm@astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (Dmitry A. Yanko) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:22:06 -0800 (PST) Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL54 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > In /etc/rc.conf: > firewall_enable="YES" > (panic only in this case) > > > fault addr. = 0x50 > fault code = sup. write, page not present > ip = 0x8:0xc01a44cb > sp = 0x10:0xc02e0ad0 > fp = 0x10:0xc02e0b50 > cs = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > = dpl 0, pres. 1, def32 1, grap 1 > p. eflags = int. enable, resume, IOPL=0 > cur. proc = Idle > int. mask = net > trap. num = 12 > panic: page fault ... Since it looks like you haven't seen the ongoing thread about your problem, I thought I would follow up to your original email. Right now we have a hypothosis that a MFC of the stats counters to ip_output is causing your panic. I would like to try and duplicate that on a system here, but I need some configuration data from your system, particularly the ipfw rule set that is triggering the problem. (this applies to anyone who has seen this panic.) -- Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 10:30:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from amx.mathieu.org (modemcable161.243-201-24.mtl.mc.videotron.ca [24.201.243.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA8D737B71E for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:30:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mathieu@amx.dyn.dhs.org) Received: from amx.dyn.dhs.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by amx.mathieu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 323FB3FCD; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:39:04 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <3AA92348.88B96F50@amx.dyn.dhs.org> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 13:39:04 -0500 From: Mathieu Reply-To: mathieu@amx.dyn.dhs.org X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.3-BETA i386) X-Accept-Language: fr-CA, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: "Dmitry A. Yanko" , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: panic, ipfw broken in stable? References: <200103091822.KAA29463@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG "Rodney W. Grimes" wrote: > > > In /etc/rc.conf: > > firewall_enable="YES" > > (panic only in this case) > > > > > > fault addr. = 0x50 > > fault code = sup. write, page not present > > ip = 0x8:0xc01a44cb > > sp = 0x10:0xc02e0ad0 > > fp = 0x10:0xc02e0b50 > > cs = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b > > = dpl 0, pres. 1, def32 1, grap 1 > > p. eflags = int. enable, resume, IOPL=0 > > cur. proc = Idle > > int. mask = net > > trap. num = 12 > > panic: page fault > ... > > Since it looks like you haven't seen the ongoing thread about > your problem, I thought I would follow up to your original email. > > Right now we have a hypothosis that a MFC of the stats counters > to ip_output is causing your panic. I would like to try and > duplicate that on a system here, but I need some configuration > data from your system, particularly the ipfw rule set that > is triggering the problem. (this applies to anyone who has > seen this panic.) > > -- > Rod Grimes - KD7CAX @ CN85sl - (RWG25) rgrimes@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message I also had the same problem. I removed those DummyNet rules, and I never saw the panic again ! rule add deny tcp from any to any via dc0 gid anonymous rule add pipe 1 ip from any to any out gid anonymous rule add pipe 2 ip from any to any in gid anonymous rule pipe 1 config bw 128Kbit/s queue 50Kbytes rule pipe 2 config bw 256Kbit/s queue 50Kbytes -- Mathieu To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 10:59:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lunatic.oneinsane.net (lunatic.oneinsane.net [66.42.61.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF3B637B71D for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 10:59:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net) Received: by lunatic.oneinsane.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 107A31555C; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:00:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 09:00:28 -0800 From: Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: can't add remote users on mysql323-server Message-ID: <20010309090028.A29376@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Reply-To: Ron Rosson Mail-Followup-To: stable@freebsd.org References: <006201c0a897$efa267e0$52ad44c1@unisvishtov.bg> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <006201c0a897$efa267e0$52ad44c1@unisvishtov.bg>; from rvasilev@uni-svishtov.bg on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 06:53:27PM +0600 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD lunatic.oneinsane.net 4.2-STABLE X-Moon: The Moon is Full X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net X-GPG-FINGERPRINT: 3F11 DB43 F080 C037 96F0 F8D3 5BD2 652B 171C 86DB X-Uptime: 8:57AM up 10 days, 15:17, 1 user, load averages: 0.16, 0.13, 0.05 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Radoslav Vasilev (rvasilev@uni-svishtov.bg) wrote: > > The problem I've never had before is that I can't add remote new user on mysql-server 3.23 . > I've got an FreeBSD 4-2 machine, and installed mysql as a port (databases/mysql323-server). I've the habit ot doing 'insert into user.... and flush privileges ' way of adding users on two other mysql servers(3.22). > Doing plain telnet mysqlhost 3306 prints: > 'You are not wellcome to use mysqld from clienthost.domain.xx' , making me thing the privilege system is not updated after my insert. I've tried all the possible way of defining my host - as a clienthost, clienthost.domain.xx , ip-address etc. So, I wonder does it have something to do with updating of the server ( tracking 4-Stable branch) > I'll appreciate any idea where the problem might be, any hint, whatever. I just can't afford new compilation. At least > Since this is a 4.2 machine I wonder if you have commented out: ALL : ALL : allow in your /etc/hosts.allow file. If you have then you might need to add an entry in there like so: mysqld : xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx : allow Just an idea and this is assuming that you have set the proper grants in the mysql server to be accessed from that host. TIA -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was /dev/null and *void() ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Does your train of thought have a caboose To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 11:26:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from ego.mind.net (ego.mind.net [206.99.66.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96AA437B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:26:37 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from takhus@takhus.mind.net) Received: from takhus.dyn.mind.net (AFN-Dyn-20846219189.pc.ashlandfiber.net [208.46.219.189]) by ego.mind.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA14271; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:26:36 -0800 Received: from localhost (fleisher@localhost) by takhus.dyn.mind.net (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f29JQ6105109; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:26:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from takhus@takhus.mind.net) X-Authentication-Warning: takhus.dyn.mind.net: fleisher owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:26:06 -0800 (PST) From: Tony Fleisher X-Sender: fleisher@takhus.dyn.mind.net To: Andrew Hesford Cc: Mike Meyer , stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: APM In-Reply-To: <20010309021238.A19563@cec.wustl.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have setup my system to filter on the Sender: header, which works quite well for most lists using majordomo. :0 * ^Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG freebsd-stable Regards, TOny. On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Andrew Hesford wrote: > The issue isn't that they are sent to multiple lists... it's a problem > with my filtering rules. I don't mind if the same message appears in > multiple lists, but my faulty filtering will dump ALL copies of the > message to the SAME list, and no copies of the message to the other > lists it was intended for. >=20 > The issue is one of checking. I currently just send all mail t=F8/from > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org to my -stable folder, and then send all mail > to/from freebsd-questions@freebsd.org to my -questions folder. However, > in a multiple-post message, they will all satisfy the to/from -stable > requirement, and be moved to the -stable folder before the -questions > rule can be applied. Some sort of cross-checking scheme is required, > which I will think about this weekend. >=20 > On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 02:06:27AM -0600, Mike Meyer wrote: > >=20 > > Even with procmail properly configured, you may see multiple copies. I > > read the -questions digest, so see them *there* instead. > >=20 > > Since my dedupper checks the md5 sum of the body as well as the > > message ID (because there are versions of MS LookOut that put the > > *same* message ID on every message!), it'd still miss those because of > > the unsubscribe message each list adds. > >=20 > > Some sites bounce mail to multiple lists. Would that be appropriate > > here? > >=20 > --=20 > Andrew Hesford > ajh3@chmod.ath.cx >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message >=20 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 11:39: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay1.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (www.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua [212.111.192.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1232937B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:38:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fm@astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua) Received: from astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (if-14-13-10M.astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua [10.100.0.14]) by relay1.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26E382FE9A; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:38:50 +0200 (EET) Received: (from fm@localhost) by astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f29JcCB13727; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:38:12 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from fm) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:38:12 +0200 From: "Dmitry A. Yanko" To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: panic, ipfw broken in stable? Message-ID: <20010309213811.A12561@astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua> References: <20010307191526.A60472@astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua> <200103091822.KAA29463@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103091822.KAA29463@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>; from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 10:22:06AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 10:22:06AM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > ... > > Since it looks like you haven't seen the ongoing thread about > your problem, I thought I would follow up to your original email. > > Right now we have a hypothosis that a MFC of the stats counters > to ip_output is causing your panic. I would like to try and > duplicate that on a system here, but I need some configuration > data from your system, particularly the ipfw rule set that > is triggering the problem. (this applies to anyone who has > seen this panic.) sorry, I had some holidays. ${fwcmd} add 65000 pass all from any to any ${fwcmd} add 100 pass all from any to any via lo0 ${fwcmd} add 200 deny all from any to 127.0.0.0/8 ${fwcmd} add 1000 deny udp from any to my_ip 26000,27500,27910,27960 ${fwcmd} add 1010 deny tcp from any to my_ip 6000 ${fwcmd} add 2000 pipe 1 tcp from my_ip 20 to any ${fwcmd} add 2100 pipe 1 tcp from my_ip 139 to any ${fwcmd} add 6000 allow tcp from my_ip to somehost0 3128 uid fm ${fwcmd} add 6001 allow tcp from my_ip to somehost0 3128 uid root ${fwcmd} add 6005 deny tcp from my_ip to somehost0 3128 ${fwcmd} add 7000 allow tcp from my_ip to somehost1 3128 uid fm ${fwcmd} add 7001 allow tcp from my_ip to somehost1 3128 uid root ${fwcmd} add 7005 deny tcp from my_ip to somehost1 3128 ${fwcmd} add 8000 allow tcp from my_ip to somehost2 6666 uid fm ${fwcmd} add 8001 allow tcp from my_ip to somehost2 6666 uid root ${fwcmd} add 8005 deny tcp from my_ip to somehost2 6666 ${fwcmd} pipe 1 config bw 200KBytes/s Do you need anything else? I can try to create crash dump. -- #include , fm. GnuPG fpr = 6101 9519 9A45 3D44 3BCB 0974 C774 5143 8F26 95B5 Mail message with GPG-KEY in subject to get my public key |&| DAY-RIPE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 11:39:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tao.org.uk (genius.tao.org.uk [212.135.162.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D15037B736 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 11:39:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@tao.org.uk) Received: by tao.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 100) id 364EC31D1; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 19:39:24 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 19:39:24 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: Larry Rosenman Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs mailing list for RELENG_4 only? Message-ID: <20010309193923.D761@tao.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , Larry Rosenman , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010309032337.A53963@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010309101906.E710@tao.org.uk> <20010309065522.A7220@lerami.lerctr.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pQhZXvAqiZgbeUkD" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010309065522.A7220@lerami.lerctr.org>; from ler@lerctr.org on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 06:55:22AM -0600 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --pQhZXvAqiZgbeUkD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 06:55:22AM -0600, Larry Rosenman wrote: > there is a list at sparks.net: >=20 > freebssd-stable-4@sparks.net >=20 > managed by majordomo. >=20 > Works great. Do you run this? Is there some "special" code that you're using to populate the list? I'd be interested in taking a look if that was possible. Joe --pQhZXvAqiZgbeUkD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjqpMWsACgkQXVIcjOaxUBaWiACfRAeeI4GOj9IndpPGArRSDEAi vLkAoLIn0UgWAxA0yeuj9LBDYip1QI+K =e7OG -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pQhZXvAqiZgbeUkD-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 12: 6:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lunatic.oneinsane.net (lunatic.oneinsane.net [66.42.61.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3017537B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:06:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net) Received: by lunatic.oneinsane.net (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 38FCB1555B; Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:25:27 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2001 17:25:27 -0800 From: Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Xfree86 Version with 4.3 Message-ID: <20010308172526.B87860@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Reply-To: Ron Rosson Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i X-Operating-System: FreeBSD lunatic.oneinsane.net 4.2-STABLE X-Moon: The Moon is Waxing Gibbous (99% of Full) X-Opinion: What you read here is my IMHO X-WWW: http://www.oneinsane.net X-GPG-FINGERPRINT: 3F11 DB43 F080 C037 96F0 F8D3 5BD2 652B 171C 86DB X-Uptime: 5:24PM up 9 days, 23:44, 1 user, load averages: 0.05, 0.02, 0.00 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE is rolled, What will be the version of Xfree86? TIA -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ron Rosson ... and a UNIX user said ... The InSaNe One rm -rf * insane@oneinsane.net and all was /dev/null and *void() ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ All I wanted was a signature, and I got my two front teeth. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 12:28:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from lerami.lerctr.org (lerami.lerctr.org [207.158.72.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE16637B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:28:30 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) Received: from ler-freebie.iadfw.net (ler-freebie.iadfw.net [206.66.13.221]) by lerami.lerctr.org (8.11.3/8.11.3/20010112/$Revision: 1.13 $) with SMTP id f29KSMI24195; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 14:28:22 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ler@lerctr.org) From: Larry Rosenman Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 20:28:21 GMT Message-ID: <20010309.20282100@ler-freebie.iadfw.net> Subject: Re: cvs mailing list for RELENG_4 only? To: Josef Karthauser Cc: Larry Rosenman , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <20010309193923.D761@tao.org.uk> References: <20010309032337.A53963@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <20010309101906.E710@tao.org.uk> <20010309065522.A7220@lerami.lerctr.org> <20010309193923.D761@tao.org.uk> X-Mailer: Mozilla/3.0 (compatible; StarOffice/5.2; Linux) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nope, someone else does. Check the archives back in oct-dec timeframe last year. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< On 3/9/01, 1:39:24 PM, Josef Karthauser wrote regarding= =20 Re: cvs mailing list for RELENG_4 only?: > On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 06:55:22AM -0600, Larry Rosenman wrote: > > there is a list at sparks.net: > > > > freebssd-stable-4@sparks.net > > > > managed by majordomo. > > > > Works great. > Do you run this? Is there some "special" code that you're using to > populate the list? I'd be interested in taking a look if that was > possible. > Joe To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 12:30:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from photonic.lbl.gov (photonic.lbl.gov [128.3.182.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED30637B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:30:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmk@photonic.lbl.gov) Received: from photonic.lbl.gov (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by photonic.lbl.gov (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f29KUag76829 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:30:36 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bmk@photonic.lbl.gov) Message-Id: <200103092030.f29KUag76829@photonic.lbl.gov> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.3.1 01/18/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: page faults in nfsd on reboot Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 12:30:36 -0800 From: "Brian M. Kincaid" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG For some reason I can't figure out my system has started to produce page faults in nfsd when I reboot. Any ideas about what could have caused this, and any suggestions about what to do about it? Thanks, Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 12:47:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from k2.jozsef.kando.hu (k2.jozsef.kando.hu [193.224.40.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E9AA37B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:47:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bra@fsn.hu) Received: (qmail 20400 invoked by uid 1000); 9 Mar 2001 20:46:55 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 Mar 2001 20:46:55 -0000 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:46:54 +0100 (CET) From: Attila Nagy X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Re: nullfs et al In-Reply-To: <200103091814.TAA91443@lurza.secnetix.de> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello, > What is the "proper" way to mount binaries etc. into a bunch of jail > homes? Obviously, I don't want to copy /bin, /usr/bin, /usr/lib etc. > for every jailed user. BTW, I'm using 4-stable. I have a similar problem but not with binaries. I run several jails with different services with the same data pools. > (A) Local NFS loopback mounts. Seems to work reliably. In my case it is very slow. For binaries it can be a viable option, but don't forget that you open another way to the real machine (call it TCB, Trusted Computing Base). If you trust in jail() and the other things that you use, like the other portions of the kernel and the daemons, running in TCB, for example an SSHD or a syslogd in this way you have to trust in the NFS server and the likes. > (B) NULLFS (mount_null). The manpage contains explicit > warnings, so using this is probably not a good idea. This would be the best idea, but it doesn't work. I've tried to build such a machine with nullfs. It worked until I started to use a program in the jail which did chroot(). FTP servers like to do chroot(), so I dropped this idea. > However, if the mounted directory is read-only and > all NULLFS mounts are read-only, too, does it still > cause crashes, or would this be more secure? I'm not a kernel hacker (BTW, I would glad if I could be a FreeBSD kernel hacker :), but my experiences show that this won't cause less crashes. > Apparently NULLFS has been fixed in 5-current, but I > don't want to run -current on this machine. There is one way which seems to be very hard to do: backporting the changes to -STABLE which could lead to an operating nullfs implementation. Kris Kennaway has enlighted the problems to me: there are too many changes in the kernel to do this, so this is a dead idea :( > (C) UNIONFS (mount_union), possibly with the -r option, > which seems to be pretty much the same functionality > as NULLFS. The manpage contains the same warning, > however, I've seen opinions in the list archives that > UNIONFS is more stable than NULLFS, in particular > when used read-only. Anyone with more experiences > on this? Yes. I am currently doing 500 GB per day from a unionfs mounted disk array (read only mounted data spool on ftp.fsn.hu)... ...and get reboots 2 or 3 times per day :) One of my friends told me that he uses unionfs for the same purpose as me (mounting RW directories into several jails RO) and he had success with it. But he doesn't do thousands of millions queries with that... > (D) Copy the partition data in the disklabel, so that > multiple partitions occupy the same physical space > on the disk (e.g. da0s1g and da0s1h point to the > same filesystem), then mount each of them read-only. > Would this be safe? The only thing that I don't > like about this approach is that it doesn't scale > very well, because each disklabel only holds 8 > partition entries, so I would need a slice for > every 8 jails. This should be the most stable and the fastest of all, but clearly sucks. In my reading FreeBSD is for small to midscale servers (the above machine is somewhere in the middle I think) and with the jail code it can be used for an ISP who wants to build a lot of jails and do web, or another kind of serving even with root access for the customers. This way you would need to do hundreds or thousands of partitions :( D isn't scale well, as you've said and A could be insecure (at least for me) so I would choose C if this server isn't a mission critical one, or D if you need a stable solution which is fast yet. E: use a backend-frontend model with x machines (if you need scalability and security) F: use the loopback device (man vnconfig) and mount the necessary stuff from vnode disks. This in you case (and in mine) won't help too much because you don't want to duplicate the files and I can't duplicate 100 GBs when I just have exactly that amount... ps: I know that everybody does hard work during the release cycle but if somebody could backport a working nullfs code a lot of people would be very happy on the planet... I would even offer my monthly salary, but that would be a joke for the backporter, I know :( -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Attila Nagy e-mail: Attila.Nagy@fsn.hu Budapest Polytechnic (BMF.HU) @work: +361 210 1415 (194) H-1084 Budapest, Tavaszmezo u. 15-17. cell.: +3630 306 6758 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 12:55:59 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from turtle.looksharp.net (cc360882-a.strhg1.mi.home.com [24.2.221.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9E837B71C for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 12:55:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Received: from localhost (bandix@localhost) by turtle.looksharp.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f29KxDc61330; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:59:13 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from bandix@looksharp.net) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:59:13 -0500 (EST) From: "Brandon D. Valentine" To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: Subject: Re: XF86 4 on 4.3-RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <20010309064254Y.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote: >Then I think it'll be a good time to switch. I expect that'll probably >be XFree86 4.1. Wise concerns, Jordan. However, one can always hold out hope that by the time XFree86 4.1 is released some of the package/sysinstall work will have been completed to a point where one can choose between XFree86 package revisions during install. -- Brandon D. Valentine "Few things are harder to put up with than the annoyance of a good example." -- Mark Twain, Pudd'nhead Wilson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 13: 3:51 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from neptune.innovativeinternet.net (neptune.innovativeinternet.net [208.244.165.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8FD737B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:03:47 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Harlan.Stenn@pfcs.com) Received: from pcpsj.pfcs.com (harlan.xecu.net [216.127.150.112]) by neptune.innovativeinternet.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A21839D57; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 16:03:25 -0500 (EST) Received: from puss.pfcs.com (puss.pfcs.com [192.52.69.46]) by pcpsj.pfcs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFAA0D460; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 16:02:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.pfcs.com [127.0.0.1] (HELO puss.pfcs.com) by puss.pfcs.com (8.11.1/8.8.8) via ESMTP id ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 16:02:35 -0500 (EST) To: "Brandon D. Valentine" Cc: Jordan Hubbard , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Harlan.Stenn@pfcs.com Subject: Re: XF86 4 on 4.3-RELEASE? In-Reply-To: "Brandon D. Valentine"'s (bandix@looksharp.net) message dated Fri, 09 Mar 2001 15:59:13. X-Face: "csXK}xnnsH\h_ce`T#|pM]tG,6Xu.{3Rb\]&XJgVyTS'w{E+|-(}n:c(Cc* $cbtusxDP6T)Hr'k&zrwq0.3&~bAI~YJco[r.mE+K|(q]F=ZNXug:s6tyOk{VTqARy0#axm6BWti9C d User-Agent: EMH/1.10.0 SEMI/1.13.3 (Komaiko) FLIM/1.12.7 (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Y?= =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=1B=2ED=8E=FEzaki?=) XEmacs/21.1 (patch 12) (Channel Islands) (i386--freebsd) MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI 1.13.3 - "Komaiko") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 16:02:35 -0500 Message-ID: <1083.984171755@puss.pfcs.com> From: Harlan Stenn Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I know I'd like a choice - I have several machines that have video cards that are unsupported by XFree86 4.x . Then again, I guess I could always go out and re-buy the video cards. Unfortunately, the ones I have are good/expensive cards (at least they were). H To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 13:12:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from jim.go2net.com (jim.go2net.com [64.50.65.22]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8D07A37B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:12:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from williamc@infospace.com) Received: (qmail 4946 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2001 21:17:14 -0000 Received: from absolut.go2net.com (10.200.10.74) by jim.go2net.com with SMTP; 9 Mar 2001 21:17:14 -0000 Received: (qmail 23267 invoked from network); 9 Mar 2001 21:12:16 -0000 Received: from gasket.go2net.com ([10.225.32.118]) (envelope-sender ) by absolut.go2net.com (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 9 Mar 2001 21:12:16 -0000 Received: by gasket.go2net.com (Postfix, from userid 492) id 8FAAB5D4F; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:12:04 -0800 (PST) To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: MFC support for DLINK DFE-530TX+ [patch] From: william.carrel@infospace.com Reply-To: william.carrel@infospace.com Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-send-pr-version: 3.113 X-GNATS-Notify: Message-Id: <20010309211204.8FAAB5D4F@gasket.go2net.com> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 13:12:04 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG >Submitter-Id: current-users >Originator: William Carrel >Organization: InfoSpace, Inc. >Confidential: no >Synopsis: DLink DFE-530TX+ cards are not recognized by the kernel >Severity: serious >Priority: medium >Category: kern >Class: sw-bug >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-BETA i386 >Environment: System: FreeBSD gasket.go2net.com 4.3-BETA FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #0: Tue Mar 6 10:57:26 PST 2001 root@gasket.go2net.com:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GO2SMP i386 >Description: This is an MFC of support for this card. >How-To-Repeat: Insert aforementioned card. Appears as Unknown device in dmesg. >Fix: Patches below are also at http://www.carrel.org/patch.file1 http://www.carrel.org/patch.file2 Hopefully we can get this in for 4.3-RELEASE. This patch to stable was created to help out a user on #FreeBSD/Openprojects.net. This support was added in current 2 weeks ago by wpaul (.c: 1.58, .h: 1.19) Add the following code to recognize the device: *** if_rl.c.orig Fri Mar 9 12:40:50 2001 --- if_rl.c Fri Mar 9 12:44:44 2001 *************** *** 149,154 **** --- 149,156 ---- "Delta Electronics 8139 10/100BaseTX" }, { ADDTRON_VENDORID, ADDTRON_DEVICEID_8139, "Addtron Technolgy 8139 10/100BaseTX" }, + { DLINK_VENDORID, DLINK_DEVICEID_530TXPLUS, + "D-Link DFE-530TX+ 10/100BaseTX" }, { 0, 0, NULL } }; *************** *** 898,904 **** rl_read_eeprom(sc, (caddr_t)&rl_did, RL_EE_PCI_DID, 1, 0); if (rl_did == RT_DEVICEID_8139 || rl_did == ACCTON_DEVICEID_5030 || ! rl_did == DELTA_DEVICEID_8139 || rl_did == ADDTRON_DEVICEID_8139) sc->rl_type = RL_8139; else if (rl_did == RT_DEVICEID_8129) sc->rl_type = RL_8129; --- 900,907 ---- rl_read_eeprom(sc, (caddr_t)&rl_did, RL_EE_PCI_DID, 1, 0); if (rl_did == RT_DEVICEID_8139 || rl_did == ACCTON_DEVICEID_5030 || ! rl_did == DELTA_DEVICEID_8139 || rl_did == ADDTRON_DEVICEID_8139 || ! rl_did == DLINK_DEVICEID_530TXPLUS) sc->rl_type = RL_8139; else if (rl_did == RT_DEVICEID_8129) sc->rl_type = RL_8129; *** if_rlreg.h.orig Fri Mar 9 12:45:55 2001 --- if_rlreg.h Fri Mar 9 12:45:58 2001 *************** *** 433,438 **** --- 433,448 ---- #define ADDTRON_DEVICEID_8139 0x1360 /* + * D-Link vendor ID. + */ + #define DLINK_VENDORID 0x1186 + + /* + * D-Link DFE-530TX+ device ID + */ + #define DLINK_DEVICEID_530TXPLUS 0x1300 + + /* * PCI low memory base and low I/O base register, and * other PCI registers. */ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 14: 2:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mcp.csh.rit.edu (mcp.csh.rit.edu [129.21.60.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 067F837B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 14:02:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jon@csh.rit.edu) Received: from fury.csh.rit.edu (fury.csh.rit.edu [129.21.60.5]) by mcp.csh.rit.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDA811043; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 17:02:02 -0500 (EST) Received: by fury.csh.rit.edu (Postfix, from userid 37404) id 64C7D2E194; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 17:02:02 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 17:02:02 -0500 From: Jon Parise To: Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Xfree86 Version with 4.3 Message-ID: <20010309170201.G16065@csh.rit.edu> References: <20010308172526.B87860@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.12i In-Reply-To: <20010308172526.B87860@lunatic.oneinsane.net>; from insane@lunatic.oneinsane.net on Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 05:25:27PM -0800 X-Operating-System: SunOS 5.8 (sun4u) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 05:25:27PM -0800, Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson wrote: > When FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE is rolled, What will be the version of Xfree86? XFree86 3.3.6. This was dicussed earlier today on this mailing list, I believe. -- Jon Parise (jon@csh.rit.edu) . Rochester Inst. of Technology http://www.csh.rit.edu/~jon/ : Computer Science House Member To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 14:39: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from relay1.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (www.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua [212.111.192.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769EF37B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 14:38:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from fm@astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua) Received: from astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (if-14-13-10M.astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua [10.100.0.14]) by relay1.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5D363047B; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:38:46 +0200 (EET) Received: (from fm@localhost) by astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua (8.11.2/8.11.1) id f29MaU918432; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:36:30 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from fm) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:36:30 +0200 From: "Dmitry A. Yanko" To: "Rodney W. Grimes" Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: panic, ipfw broken in stable? Message-ID: <20010310003629.A17998@astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua> References: <20010307191526.A60472@astral.ntu-kpi.kiev.ua> <200103091822.KAA29463@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103091822.KAA29463@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net>; from freebsd@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 10:22:06AM -0800 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 10:22:06AM -0800, Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > Since it looks like you haven't seen the ongoing thread about > your problem, I thought I would follow up to your original email. > > Right now we have a hypothosis that a MFC of the stats counters > to ip_output is causing your panic. I would like to try and > duplicate that on a system here, but I need some configuration > data from your system, particularly the ipfw rule set that > is triggering the problem. (this applies to anyone who has > seen this panic.) I just run cvsup and compile DDB into my kernel. fva = 0x28 ip = 0x8:0xc01a85ef sp = 0x10:0xfea1d00 fp = 0x10:0xcfea1d80 at ip_output+0xa5b incl 0x28(%edx) registers: cs = 0x8 ds=es=ss=fs=0x10 eax=0xc073ed3c ecx=0xffff1042 edx=0 ebx=0x1 esp=0xfcea1d00 ebp=0xcfea1d80 esi=0 edi=0 eip=0xc01a85ef - ip_output+0xa5b efl=0x10246 trace: ip_output(c073ed00,0,c22ac8a4,0,0) at ip_output+0xa5b transmit_event(c21ff200,c22adc80,c0337aff,0,1) at +0x32 ready_event(c22adc80,0,c01afbc,400000,400000) at +0x123 dummynet(0,400000,c06249b4,c040088c,c040188c) at +0x97 softclock(0,10,10,10,c040188c) at +0xd1 doreti_swi(253a000,79c4000,cfe62740,cfe7ea00,280fa000) at +0xf vm_fault(cfe7ea00,2806a000,3,8,cfe62740) at +0x7ad trap_pfault(cfea1fa8,1,2806a788,0,2806d000) at +0x2c trap(2f,2f,2f,e8,2806d000) at +0x1d3 call_trap() at +0x11 --- trap 0xc, eip=0x2805a957,esp=0xbfbfdc9c,ebp=0xbfbfdcb4 Tell me if you need more data. -- #include , fm. GnuPG fpr = 6101 9519 9A45 3D44 3BCB 0974 C774 5143 8F26 95B5 Mail message with GPG-KEY in subject to get my public key |&| DAY-RIPE To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 14:41:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [63.114.185.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45AFC37B718; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 14:41:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mi@misha.privatelabs.com) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (root@misha.plten [10.0.0.106]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA00638; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:01:58 -0500 Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (mi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f29MfTC02650; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 17:41:31 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mi@misha.privatelabs.com) Message-Id: <200103092241.f29MfTC02650@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 17:41:28 -0500 (EST) From: mi@aldan.algebra.com Subject: Re: load stays at 1 on an idle machine To: "Jonathan M. Slivko" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG, developers@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 9 Mar, Jonathan M. Slivko wrote: = What kind of other applications/services are you runing? None at the moment... = Are you running XWindows? -- Jonathan M. Slivko Again: the machine does not have a video card... -mi = On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Mikhail Teterin wrote: = = > Hello! = > = > I was running a single instance of SETI@Home, when I observed the load = > of 2. I stopped seti and the load went down to one. It stays there for = > about 20 hours already. The machine is idle: = > = > last pid: 1886; load averages: 1.00, 1.00, 1.00 up 0+20:36:36 10:33:11 = > 16 processes: 1 running, 15 sleeping = > CPU states: 0.4% user, 0.0% nice, 0.0% system, 0.0% interrupt, 99.6% idle = > Mem: 7136K Active, 20M Inact, 9024K Wired, 56K Cache, 22M Buf, 88M Free = > Swap: 256M Total, 256M Free = > = > PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE TIME WCPU CPU COMMAND = > [....] = > = > This is a 4.3-beta: = > FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #0: Tue Mar 7 22:58:18 EST 2000 = > on a single Pentium-II 266MHz with 128Mb of RAM. The unusual (somewhat) = > things are: no video card, two Promise-66 IDE controllers, while the on = > board IDE is disabled (they are WDMA2 only). I think, this happened = > before to someone, but I could not find the thread. Any clues? Thanks, = > = > -mi = > = > [...] = > Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz = > Timecounter "TSC" frequency 265910989 Hz = > CPU: Pentium II/Pentium II Xeon/Celeron (265.91-MHz 686-class CPU) = > Origin = "GenuineIntel" Id = 0x633 Stepping = 3 = > Features=0x80f9ff = > real memory = 134217728 (131072K bytes) = > avail memory = 127963136 (124964K bytes) = > [...] = > ccd0: Concatenated disk driver = > Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled = > npx0: on motherboard = > npx0: INT 16 interface = > pcib0: on motherboard = > pci0: on pcib0 = > isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 = > isa0: on isab0 = > atapci0: port 0xff80-0xff8f at device 7.1 on pci0 = > ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 = > atapci1: port 0xfd80-0xfdbf,0xff98-0xff9b,0xff90-0xff = > 97,0xff9c-0xff9f,0xffa0-0xffa7 mem 0xffb60000-0xffb7ffff irq 11 at device 11.0 on pci0 = > ata2: at 0xffa0 on atapci1 = > ata3: at 0xff90 on atapci1 = > atapci2: port 0xfe80-0xfebf,0xffe0-0xffe3,0xffa8-0xff = > af,0xffe4-0xffe7,0xfff0-0xfff7 mem 0xffba0000-0xffbbffff irq 3 at device 15.0 on pci0 = > ata4: at 0xfff0 on atapci2 = > ata5: at 0xffa8 on atapci2 = > sym0: <875> port 0xfc00-0xfcff mem 0xffbea000-0xffbeafff,0xffbebc00-0xffbebcff irq 10 at device 17.0 on pci0 = > sym0: Symbios NVRAM, ID 7, Fast-20, SE, parity checking = > sym0: open drain IRQ line driver, using on-chip SRAM = > sym0: using LOAD/STORE-based firmware. = > xl0: <3Com 3c905-TX Fast Etherlink XL> port 0xff00-0xff3f irq 9 at device 19.0 on pci0 = > xl0: Ethernet address: 00:60:08:3e:27:1b = > miibus0: on xl0 = > nsphy0: on miibus0 = > nsphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto = > fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 = > fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold = > fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 = > sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 = > sio0: type 16550A, console = > sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 = > IPv6 packet filtering initialized, default to accept, unlimited logging = > IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to accept, unlimited logging = > nsphy0: on miibus0 = > nsphy0: 10baseT, 10baseT-FDX, 100baseTX, 100baseTX-FDX, auto = > fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 = > fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold = > fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 = > sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 = > sio0: type 16550A, console = > sio1: configured irq 3 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0 = > IPv6 packet filtering initialized, default to accept, unlimited logging = > IP packet filtering initialized, divert enabled, rule-based forwarding enabled, default to accept, unlimited logging = > DUMMYNET initialized (010124) = > ad4: 39082MB [79406/16/63] at ata2-master UDMA66 = > ad6: 28629MB [58168/16/63] at ata3-master UDMA66 = > ad10: 28629MB [58168/16/63] at ata5-master UDMA66 = > Waiting 5 seconds for SCSI devices to settle = > (noperiph:sym0:0:-1:-1): SCSI BUS reset delivered. = > Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da0a = > da0 at sym0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 = > da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device = > da0: 40.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15, 16bit), Tagged Queueing Enabled = > da0: 2049MB (4197405 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 261C) = > = > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org = > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message = > = To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 14:49:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from privatecube.privatelabs.com (privatecube.privatelabs.com [63.114.185.254]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0261437B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 14:49:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mi@misha.privatelabs.com) Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (root@misha.plten [10.0.0.106]) by privatecube.privatelabs.com (8.9.3/8.9.2) with ESMTP id SAA00694; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:10:00 -0500 Received: from misha.privatelabs.com (mi@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by misha.privatelabs.com (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f29MnbC02673; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 17:49:38 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from mi@misha.privatelabs.com) Message-Id: <200103092249.f29MnbC02673@misha.privatelabs.com> Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 17:49:35 -0500 (EST) From: mi@aldan.algebra.com Subject: Re: load stays at 1 on an idle machine To: chris@aepnet.com Cc: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200103091757.f29HvLC00888@mercury.aepnet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 9 Mar, chris reaume wrote: = I've noticed I tend to get this behavior when I've got a zombie = process somewhere, so you might check that too. No zombies. Just seti@home. And the load is 2. If I stop seti, the load goes to 1 and stays there :( Thanks for the confirmation of the bug. -mi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 15:29:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from equinox.datasyrge.net (ool-18ba2d21.dyn.optonline.net [24.186.45.33]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6317237B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:29:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jslivko@datasyrge.net) Received: from localhost (jslivko@localhost) by equinox.datasyrge.net (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id SAA16786; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:33:48 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:33:48 -0500 (EST) From: "Jonathan M. Slivko" To: "Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson" Cc: stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: can't add remote users on mysql323-server In-Reply-To: <20010309090028.A29376@lunatic.oneinsane.net> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Exactly what I said in an earlier e-mail :) -- Jonathan M. Slivko On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Ron 'The InSaNe One' Rosson wrote: > Radoslav Vasilev (rvasilev@uni-svishtov.bg) wrote: > > > > The problem I've never had before is that I can't add remote new user on mysql-server 3.23 . > > I've got an FreeBSD 4-2 machine, and installed mysql as a port (databases/mysql323-server). I've the habit ot doing 'insert into user.... and flush privileges ' way of adding users on two other mysql servers(3.22). > > Doing plain telnet mysqlhost 3306 prints: > > 'You are not wellcome to use mysqld from clienthost.domain.xx' , making me thing the privilege system is not updated after my insert. I've tried all the possible way of defining my host - as a clienthost, clienthost.domain.xx , ip-address etc. So, I wonder does it have something to do with updating of the server ( tracking 4-Stable branch) > > I'll appreciate any idea where the problem might be, any hint, whatever. I just can't afford new compilation. At least > > > > Since this is a 4.2 machine I wonder if you have commented out: > > ALL : ALL : allow > > in your /etc/hosts.allow file. If you have then you might need to add an > entry in there like so: > > mysqld : xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx : allow > > Just an idea and this is assuming that you have set the proper grants in > the mysql server to be accessed from that host. > > TIA > -- |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| | Jonathan M. Slivko | | Global IRC Operator, AsylumNet IRC Networks | | Systems Administrator, DataSyrge Internet Svces. | | Webpage: http://jslivko.datasyrge.net/ | | | | Come and check out AsylumNet: irc.asylum-net.org!| |~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 15:49:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sdmail0.sd.bmarts.com (sdmail0.sd.bmarts.com [209.247.77.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB9D837B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:49:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gordont@bluemtn.net) Received: from localhost (gordont@localhost) by sdmail0.sd.bmarts.com (8.11.3/8.11.2/BMA1.1) with ESMTP id f29Nlo979945; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:47:50 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:47:50 -0800 (PST) From: Gordon Tetlow X-X-Sender: To: Gregory Sutter Cc: Josef Karthauser , j mckitrick , Subject: Re: cvs mailing list for RELENG_4 only? In-Reply-To: <20010309032113.O45600@klapaucius.zer0.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Where is ${FROM} defined? -gordon On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Gregory Sutter wrote: > # tag FreeBSD commit messages appropriately > :0 > * ^Sender:[ ]*owner-(freebsd-)?cvs-(all|committers)@FreeBSD.ORG > * ^Subject: cvs commit: > { > # tag with the correct portion of the tree > :0 f > * ^Subject: cvs commit: \/(CVSROOT|doc|ports|src|www) > | formail -i "X-FreeBSD-CVS-Tree: $MATCH" > > # add cvsweb urls to the bottom of each commit > # courtesy hoek@freebsd.org > PERLSCRIPT=' > while (<>) { > if (/^\s+(\d+\.)+\d+\s+\+\d+ \-\d+\s+/) { > $r = $_; > $r =~+s/.*?([A-Za-z]+\/.+)/http\:\/\/www.FreeBSD.ORG\/cgi\/cvsweb\.cgi\/\1/; > $l = "$l$r"; > } > print "$_"; > } > print "$l"; > ' > :0 bf > | perl -Te "${PERLSCRIPT}" > } > > # freebsd lists > BSDLISTS="(advocacy|announce|arch|chat|current|cvs-all|doc|emulation|hackers|hardware|ipfw|isp|jobs|mobile|mozilla|net|ports|ppc|qa|questions|security|small|smp|stable)" > > :0 > * $ ^${FROM}freebsd.org > { > :0 Wh : freebsd.lock > | formail -D 32768 $PMDIR/bsd.cache > > :0 : > * ^X-FreeBSD-CVS-Tree: doc > bsd/doc > > :0 : > * ^Subject:[ ]*cvs commit: > * ^X-FreeBSD-CVS-Branch:[ ]*RELENG_4 > bsd/stable > > :0 : > * ^X-FreeBSD-CVS-Tree: ports > bsd/ports > > :0 : > * $ ^Sender:[ ]*owner-(freebsd-)?\/$BSDLISTS > | formail -i "X-Fkey: freebsd-$MATCH" >> bsd/$MATCH > } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 15:50:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from klapaucius.zer0.org (klapaucius.zer0.org [204.152.186.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74B6A37B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:50:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gsutter@zer0.org) Received: by klapaucius.zer0.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 4E8AE239A54; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:50:19 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 15:50:19 -0800 From: Gregory Sutter To: Gordon Tetlow Cc: Josef Karthauser , j mckitrick , freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: cvs mailing list for RELENG_4 only? Message-ID: <20010309155019.J90153@klapaucius.zer0.org> References: <20010309032113.O45600@klapaucius.zer0.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from gordont@bluemtn.net on Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 03:47:50PM -0800 Organization: Zer0 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 2001-03-09 15:47 -0800, Gordon Tetlow wrote: > Where is ${FROM} defined? Whoops. That's from my main procmailrc (into which this bsd.rc is 'includerc'ed). Here's my definition: FROM="((X-)?(((Envelope-)?Sender|(Apparently-|Resent-)?From)|Reply-To|Return-Path):(.*\<)?)" Greg -- Gregory S. Sutter Only two things are infinite, the mailto:gsutter@zer0.org universe and human stupidity, and I'm http://www.zer0.org/~gsutter/ not sure about the former. hkp://wwwkeys.pgp.net/0x845DFEDD - Albert Einstein To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 17:47:47 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from earth.backplane.com (earth-nat-cw.backplane.com [208.161.114.67]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C12F637B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 17:47:45 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon@earth.backplane.com) Received: (from dillon@localhost) by earth.backplane.com (8.11.2/8.9.3) id f2A1kuE40089; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 17:46:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dillon) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 17:46:56 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Dillon Message-Id: <200103100146.f2A1kuE40089@earth.backplane.com> To: Harlan Stenn Cc: "Brandon D. Valentine" , Jordan Hubbard , stable@FreeBSD.ORG, Harlan.Stenn@pfcs.com Subject: Re: XF86 4 on 4.3-RELEASE? References: <1083.984171755@puss.pfcs.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG :I know I'd like a choice - I have several machines that have video cards :that are unsupported by XFree86 4.x . : :Then again, I guess I could always go out and re-buy the video cards. :Unfortunately, the ones I have are good/expensive cards (at least they :were). : :H Good workstation quality video cards have gotten really cheap. A Voodoo3 3000 (PCI) is less then $60, and that can handle just about any resolution at 24bpp. It's supported very nicely under XFree3.x and XFree4.x (I've been running XFree4.x for several months now without a hitch), and the 2D accel is well supported so knocking large netscape windows around works without breaking a sweat, even on less then stellar PC hardware. We bought a bunch of really cheap bottom-of-the-line HP desktops, plugged in some extra memory and added a Voodoo3 3000, and they work great as FreeBSD workstations. -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 18:59:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sdmail0.sd.bmarts.com (sdmail0.sd.bmarts.com [209.247.77.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198E437B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:59:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gordont@bluemtn.net) Received: from localhost (gordont@localhost) by sdmail0.sd.bmarts.com (8.11.3/8.11.2/BMA1.1) with ESMTP id f2A2vjv45373; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:57:45 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 18:57:45 -0800 (PST) From: Gordon Tetlow X-X-Sender: To: Gregory Sutter Cc: Josef Karthauser , j mckitrick , Subject: Re: cvs mailing list for RELENG_4 only? In-Reply-To: <20010309155019.J90153@klapaucius.zer0.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I just tweaked out Greg's recipies for my own purposes. Here it is and the accompanying helper script. It splits out all the RELENG_4 commits and all the replies to those commits (based on Message-ID). enjoy! ==== # add cvsweb urls to the bottom of each commit # courtesy hoek@freebsd.org PERLSCRIPT=' while (<>) { if (/^\s+(\d+\.)+\d+\s+\+\d+ \-\d+\s+/) { $r = $_; $r =~+s/.*?([A-Za-z]+\/.+)/http\:\/\/www.FreeBSD.ORG\/cgi\/cvsweb\.cgi\/\1/; $l = "$l$r"; } print "$_"; } print "$l"; ' FROM="((X-)?(((Envelope-)?Sender|(Apparently-|Resent-)?From)|Reply-To|Return-Path):(.*\<)?)" # freebsd lists BSDLISTS="(advocacy|announce|arch|chat|current|cvs-all|doc|emulation|hackers|hardware|ipfw|isp|jobs|mobile|mozilla|net|ports|ppc|qa|questions|security|small|smp|stable)" # tag FreeBSD commit messages appropriately :0 bf * ^Sender:[ ]*owner-(freebsd-)?cvs-(all|committers)@FreeBSD.ORG * ^Subject: cvs commit: | perl -Te "${PERLSCRIPT}" :0 * $ ^${FROM}freebsd.org { #:0 Wh : freebsd.lock #| /usr/local/bin/formail -D 32768 $PMDIR/bsd.cache :0 : * ^Subject:[ ]*([Rr][Ee]:)* cvs commit: \/(doc|ports|www|CVSROOT) bsd/cvs-$MATCH :0 * ^Subject:[ ]*cvs commit: * ^X-FreeBSD-CVS-Branch:[ ]*RELENG_4 { # For everything that is commited for the stable branch, add # it into a cache for later. This way, we can filter replies # into the same folder. # XXX I don't think I need the W here, but what the heck. :0 Wc: freebsd.lock | /usr/local/bin/formail -D 32768 $PMDIR/bsd.stable.cache :0 : bsd/cvs-stable } # This would be the filter that looks up the reference ids and filters # accordingly. Returns 0 (success) and cats the message to stdout if # it has a reference listed in the the cache file. Returns 1 (failure) # if there is no reference id listed, falling through for later recipies # to pick up. :0 W: freebsd.lock |/home/gordont/bin/reference.sh $PMDIR/bsd.stable.cache >> bsd/cvs-stable :0 : * $ ^Sender:[ ]*owner-(freebsd-)?\/$BSDLISTS bsd/$MATCH } ==== and reference.sh #!/bin/sh TMPFILE=/tmp/mail.$$.tmp CACHEFILE=$1 touch $TMPFILE chmod 600 $TMPFILE cat > $TMPFILE # XXX Better way to do this? REFID=`egrep '(References:|In-Reply-To:)' $TMPFILE | cut -f 2 -d " " | grep "<" | head -1` if [ "x$REFID" = "x" ]; then # If there are no refereneces then we just error out and let # procmail deliver elsewhere rm $TMPFILE exit 1; fi grep $REFID $CACHEFILE > /dev/null if [ $? -eq 0 ]; then # Add it to the cache. # This way, replies to replies also get filtered. /usr/local/bin/formail -D 32768 $CACHEFILE < $TMPFILE cat $TMPFILE rm $TMPFILE exit 0; fi rm $TMPFILE exit 1; ==== To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 20:30: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from sdmail0.sd.bmarts.com (sdmail0.sd.bmarts.com [209.247.77.155]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3D8E437B71D for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 20:29:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gordont@bluemtn.net) Received: from localhost (gordont@localhost) by sdmail0.sd.bmarts.com (8.11.3/8.11.2/BMA1.1) with ESMTP id f2A4T5x55638; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 20:29:05 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 20:29:05 -0800 (PST) From: Gordon Tetlow X-X-Sender: To: Jordan Hubbard Cc: , Subject: Re: XF86 4 on 4.3-RELEASE? In-Reply-To: <20010309064254Y.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > Nope. When XFree86 4.x: > > a) Supports a reasonable superset of all cards supported by 3.3.6 > > b) Doesn't halve OpenGL performance on cards like Matrox and nVidia > (3dfx sucks so much on both that it's not an issue). > > c) Doesn't have a configuration tool which confuses new users > even more than the old configuration tool did. You forgot one (that happens for me) d) Doesn't take half the CPU while sitting idle. But then again, I suspect it has something to do with the fact I'm running a dual head. -gordon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 20:36:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from level3.dynacom.net (level3.dynacom.net [206.107.213.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3B4A737B719 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 20:36:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: (qmail 10953 invoked by uid 0); 10 Mar 2001 04:36:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO urx.com) (206.159.132.160) by mail.urx.com with SMTP; 10 Mar 2001 04:36:37 -0000 Message-ID: <3AA9AF55.96B72D44@urx.com> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 20:36:37 -0800 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gordon Tetlow Cc: Jordan Hubbard , irvine@sanbi.ac.za, stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: XF86 4 on 4.3-RELEASE? References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Gordon Tetlow wrote: > > On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Jordan Hubbard wrote: > > > Nope. When XFree86 4.x: > > > > a) Supports a reasonable superset of all cards supported by 3.3.6 > > > > b) Doesn't halve OpenGL performance on cards like Matrox and nVidia > > (3dfx sucks so much on both that it's not an issue). > > > > c) Doesn't have a configuration tool which confuses new users > > even more than the old configuration tool did. > > You forgot one (that happens for me) > d) Doesn't take half the CPU while sitting idle. > > But then again, I suspect it has something to do with the fact I'm running > a dual head. I had to chuckle at this point. I'm running 3.3.6 and KDE-2.1 on a dual 866 coppermine system. On it, kicker has 95% of the second cpu full time. I wonder what is taking half of your system/ Kent > > -gordon > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Fri Mar 9 21:16:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mail.nerv.nu (cx639627-c.irvn1.occa.home.com [24.0.209.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6943837B718 for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:16:31 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nugundam@nerv.nu) Received: from localhost (nugundam@localhost) by mail.nerv.nu (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f2A5Gfu44237; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:16:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from nugundam@ICEwood.nerv.nu) Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2001 21:16:40 -0800 (PST) From: Joseph Lee To: Odhiambo Washington , Subject: Re: microuptime issues In-Reply-To: <20010309135154.B20234@poeza.iconnect.co.ke> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Odhiambo Washington wrote: > I have not seen this in the sysctl man page - so I haven't used it either. > Where can I get more info about it? Try searching the FreeBSD mailing lists. It's usually associated with the way the kernel maintains timekeeping with APM not being built in. Check /sys/i386/conf/LINT also. -- Joseph nugundam =best=com==/==\=IIGS=/==\=Playstation=/==\=Civic HX CVT=/==\ # Anime Expo 2000 >> www.anime-expo.org/ > # FreeBSD: The Power to Serve >> www.freebsd.org > # The Ultimate Online Speed-Shop >> www.racesearch.com / To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 10 0:13:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from c001.snv.cp.net (c001-h002.c001.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.116]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0E95437B71A for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 00:13:22 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scott@sawilson.org) Received: (cpmta 13398 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2001 00:13:21 -0800 Date: 10 Mar 2001 00:13:21 -0800 Message-ID: <20010310081321.13397.cpmta@c001.snv.cp.net> X-Sent: 10 Mar 2001 08:13:21 GMT Received: from [165.247.19.17] by mail.sawilson.org with HTTP; 10 Mar 2001 00:13:21 PST Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org From: scott@sawilson.org X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.7.1.9 Subject: retail linux quake3arena, freebsd 4.3 beta Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG lo there, I swear at some point I had q3test working under freebsd 4.0 with my voodoo2 card. The day the full retail version came out, I tried in vain for about a week to get it working and gave up. I've decided to try again. I started out with a google search, and only turned up documentation for using the utah-glx drivers with non-voodoo cards. I'm hoping that someone has this working with 4.3-beta and a voodoo2 and can shed some light on this. I noticed 3dfx's site is gone. I was going to try to get the latest voodoo2 linux rpm, and use rpm2cpio to install it with linux-glide. I'm 3 days into this and pulling my rapidly disappearing hair out at this point. If there is a good doc online that covers using a voodoo2 card with freebsd and the full retail version of linux quake3arena, that would rule. I'll be damned if I could find it. If someone has the full retail version working with the latest stable and a voodoo2 card, please let me know what the magic dance is I have to do to get it working. If I'm screwed and I have to use the utah-glx and get a new card, that's fine. I was about to do that anyway. :) I plan on getting the best card I can for the upcoming Doom3 release. This is just to pass the time until that does happen and this list is flooded with questions about doom3. :) PS: what is the current badass card for 3d gaming under freebsd? Thanks In Advance Best Regards, Scott Alan Wilson http://sawilson.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 10 3:37:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from freesurfmail.sunrise.ch (freesurfmta03.sunrise.ch [194.230.0.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16CE637B719 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 03:37:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from manuelk@bluewin.ch) Received: from manuel (194.230.241.34) by freesurfmail.sunrise.ch (5.1.056) id 3A97778A0010549F; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 12:37:02 +0100 Message-ID: <200103101238170970.00A30124@smtp.freesurf.ch> In-Reply-To: <200103091822.KAA29463@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> References: <200103091822.KAA29463@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> X-Mailer: Calypso Version 3.20.01.01 (4) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 12:38:17 +0100 From: "Manuel Kasper" To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: "Rodney W. Grimes" Subject: Re: panic, ipfw broken in stable? Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi all, On 09.03.2001 at 10:22 Rodney W. Grimes wrote: > Since it looks like you haven't seen the ongoing thread about > your problem, I thought I would follow up to your original email. > > Right now we have a hypothosis that a MFC of the stats counters > to ip_output is causing your panic. I would like to try and > duplicate that on a system here, but I need some configuration > data from your system, particularly the ipfw rule set that > is triggering the problem. (this applies to anyone who has > seen this panic.) I just decided to add that I'm experiencing the same problem now that I've upgraded to 4.3-BETA (from 4.2-RELEASE) - I hope my observations are of some use. It really only happens when there's a ipfw ruleset that uses DUMMYNET... I wanted to try out DUMMYNET, and so enabled it: as soon as I connected to the FreeBSD box, it paniced. The following rules I added to rc.firewall seem to cause the problem: ${fwcmd} add pipe 1 ip from any to any ${fwcmd} pipe 1 config bw 2Mbit/s If I comment these out and do a sh rc.firewall, everything is well again (no problems with the firewall). Just FYI, the machine is an AMD Duron 800/128 MB RAM, and the last time I cvsup'ed and made world was at about 09:00 GMT today. I also removed all options from make.conf that are possibly unsafe (CPUTYPE and all CFLAGS), but it's the same story. The kernel I used was a GENERIC one with the only options added being: options IPFIREWALL options DUMMYNET I attempted to use gdb as described in (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/kerneldebug.html): ---------------------------------------------------------------------- bash-2.04# gdb -k GNU gdb 4.18 Copyright 1998 Free Software Foundation, Inc. GDB is free software, covered by the GNU General Public License, and you are welcome to change it and/or distribute copies of it under certain conditions. Type "show copying" to see the conditions. There is absolutely no warranty for GDB. Type "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "i386-unknown-freebsd". (kgdb) symbol-file kernel.debug Reading symbols from kernel.debug...done. (kgdb) exec-file /usr/crash/kernel.0 (kgdb) core-file /usr/crash/vmcore.0 IdlePTD 4648960 initial pcb at 3bc240 panicstr: page fault panic messages: --- Fatal trap 12: page fault while in kernel mode fault virtual address = 0x28 fault code = supervisor write, page not present instruction pointer = 0x8:0xc02051ab stack pointer = 0x10:0xc038818c frame pointer = 0x10:0xc03881e0 code segment = base 0x0, limit 0xfffff, type 0x1b = DPL 0, pres 1, def32 1, gran 1 processor eflags = interrupt enabled, resume, IOPL = 0 current process = Idle interrupt mask = net tty trap number = 12 panic: page fault syncing disks... 20 20 14 done Uptime: 33m49s dumping to dev #ad/0x30001, offset 270848 dump ata0: resetting devices .. done 127 126 125 124 123 122 121 120 119 118 117 116 115 114 113 112 111 110 109 108 107 106 105 104 103 102 101 100 99 98 97 96 95 94 93 92 91 90 89 88 87 86 85 84 83 82 81 80 79 78 77 76 75 74 73 72 71 70 69 68 67 66 65 64 63 62 61 60 59 58 57 56 55 54 53 52 51 50 49 48 47 46 45 44 43 42 41 40 39 38 37 36 35 34 33 32 31 30 29 28 27 26 25 24 23 22 21 20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 0 --- #0 dumpsys () at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:469 469 if (dumping++) { (kgdb) where #0 dumpsys () at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:469 #1 0xc01abd63 in boot (howto=256) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:309 #2 0xc01ac0e0 in poweroff_wait (junk=0xc037f56f, howto=0) at ../../kern/kern_shutdown.c:556 #3 0xc031a549 in trap_fatal (frame=0xc038814c, eva=40) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:951 #4 0xc031a221 in trap_pfault (frame=0xc038814c, usermode=0, eva=40) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:844 #5 0xc0319ddb in trap (frame={tf_fs = 16, tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = -1057765888, tf_esi = 0, tf_ebp = -1070038560, tf_isp = -1070038664, tf_ebx = -1058781184, tf_edx = 44805, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = -1061880004, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = -1071623765, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66118, tf_esp = -1057763072, tf_ss = -1058116352}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:443 #6 0xc02051ab in ip_output (m0=0xc0b4ff00, opt=0x0, ro=0xc0f3d124, flags=0, imo=0x0) at ../../netinet/ip_output.c:791 #7 0xc01fdb6a in transmit_event (pipe=0xc0ee6d00) at ../../netinet/ip_dummynet.c:426 #8 0xc01fdd6f in ready_event (q=0xc0f3c600) at ../../netinet/ip_dummynet.c:566 #9 0xc01feb8f in dummynet_io (pipe_nr=1, dir=1, m=0xc0b4ff00, ifp=0xc0e44800, ro=0xc80696a8, dst=0xc0f3d128, rule=0xc0e73e50, flags=0) at ../../netinet/ip_dummynet.c:1137 #10 0xc02050b4 in ip_output (m0=0xc0b4ff00, opt=0x0, ro=0xc80696a8, flags=0, imo=0x0) at ../../netinet/ip_output.c:483 ---Type to continue, or q to quit--- #11 0xc020add4 in tcp_output (tp=0xc8069720) at ../../netinet/tcp_output.c:861 #12 0xc02096b7 in tcp_input (m=0xc0b4ff00, off0=20, proto=6) at ../../netinet/tcp_input.c:2282 #13 0xc0203b61 in ip_input (m=0xc0b4ff00) at ../../netinet/ip_input.c:792 #14 0xc01fdb7e in transmit_event (pipe=0xc0ee6d00) at ../../netinet/ip_dummynet.c:431 #15 0xc01fdd6f in ready_event (q=0xc0f3c600) at ../../netinet/ip_dummynet.c:566 #16 0xc01fe207 in dummynet (unused=0x0) at ../../netinet/ip_dummynet.c:719 #17 0xc01b195d in softclock () at ../../kern/kern_timeout.c:131 (kgdb) up 5 #5 0xc0319ddb in trap (frame={tf_fs = 16, tf_es = 16, tf_ds = 16, tf_edi = -1057765888, tf_esi = 0, tf_ebp = -1070038560, tf_isp = -1070038664, tf_ebx = -1058781184, tf_edx = 44805, tf_ecx = 0, tf_eax = -1061880004, tf_trapno = 12, tf_err = 2, tf_eip = -1071623765, tf_cs = 8, tf_eflags = 66118, tf_esp = -1057763072, tf_ss = -1058116352}) at ../../i386/i386/trap.c:443 443 (void) trap_pfault(&frame, FALSE, eva); (kgdb) frame frame->tf_ebp frame->tf_eip #0 0xc02051ab in ip_output (m0=0xc0b4ff00, opt=0x0, ro=0xc0f3d124, flags=0, imo=0x0) at ../../netinet/ip_output.c:791 791 ia->ia_ifa.if_opackets++; (kgdb) list 786 } 787 } 788 789 /* Record statistics for this interface address. */ 790 if (!(flags & IP_FORWARDING)) { 791 ia->ia_ifa.if_opackets++; 792 ia->ia_ifa.if_obytes += m->m_pkthdr.len; 793 } 794 795 error = (*ifp->if_output)(ifp, m, (kgdb) print ia $1 = (struct in_ifaddr *) 0x0 (kgdb) up #1 0xc01fdb6a in transmit_event (pipe=0xc0ee6d00) at ../../netinet/ip_dummynet.c:426 426 (void)ip_output((struct mbuf *)pkt, NULL, NULL, 0, NULL); (kgdb) up #2 0xc01fdd6f in ready_event (q=0xc0f3c600) at ../../netinet/ip_dummynet.c:566 566 transmit_event(p); (kgdb) up #3 0xc01feb8f in dummynet_io (pipe_nr=1, dir=1, m=0xc0b4ff00, ifp=0xc0e44800, ro=0xc80696a8, dst=0xc0f3d128, rule=0xc0e73e50, flags=0) at ../../netinet/ip_dummynet.c:1137 1137 ready_event( q ); (kgdb) up #4 0xc02050b4 in ip_output (m0=0xc0b4ff00, opt=0x0, ro=0xc80696a8, flags=0, imo=0x0) at ../../netinet/ip_output.c:483 483 error = dummynet_io(off & 0xffff, DN_TO_IP_OUT, m, (kgdb) up #5 0xc020add4 in tcp_output (tp=0xc8069720) at ../../netinet/tcp_output.c:861 861 error = ip_output(m, tp->t_inpcb->inp_options, &tp->t_inpcb->inp_route, (kgdb) up #6 0xc02096b7 in tcp_input (m=0xc0b4ff00, off0=20, proto=6) at ../../netinet/tcp_input.c:2282 2282 (void) tcp_output(tp); (kgdb) up #7 0xc0203b61 in ip_input (m=0xc0b4ff00) at ../../netinet/ip_input.c:792 792 (*inetsw[ip_protox[ip->ip_p]].pr_input)(m, off, nh); (kgdb) up #8 0xc01fdb7e in transmit_event (pipe=0xc0ee6d00) at ../../netinet/ip_dummynet.c:431 431 ip_input((struct mbuf *)pkt) ; (kgdb) up #9 0xc01fdd6f in ready_event (q=0xc0f3c600) at ../../netinet/ip_dummynet.c:566 566 transmit_event(p); (kgdb) up #10 0xc01fe207 in dummynet (unused=0x0) at ../../netinet/ip_dummynet.c:719 719 ready_event(p) ; (kgdb) up #11 0xc01b195d in softclock () at ../../kern/kern_timeout.c:131 131 c_func(c_arg); (kgdb) up Initial frame selected; you cannot go up. (kgdb) quit ---------------------------------------------------------------------- And here's the output of dmesg: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Copyright (c) 1992-2001 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1979, 1980, 1983, 1986, 1988, 1989, 1991, 1992, 1993, 1994 The Regents of the University of California. All rights reserved. FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #0: Sat Mar 10 10:57:01 CET 2001 root@freebsd.neon1.net:/usr/src/sys/compile/TEST Timecounter "i8254" frequency 1193182 Hz CPU: AMD Duron(tm) Processor (799.62-MHz 686-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x631 Stepping = 1 Features=0x183f9ff AMD Features=0xc0440000<,AMIE,DSP,3DNow!> real memory = 134152192 (131008K bytes) avail memory = 126214144 (123256K bytes) Preloaded elf kernel "kernel" at 0xc0450000. Pentium Pro MTRR support enabled md0: Malloc disk npx0: on motherboard npx0: INT 16 interface pcib0: on motherboard pci0: on pcib0 pcib2: at device 1.0 on pci0 pci1: on pcib2 pci1: at 0.0 irq 10 isab0: at device 7.0 on pci0 isa0: on isab0 atapci0: port 0xa000-0xa00f at device 7.1 on pci0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 uhci0: port 0xa400-0xa41f irq 10 at device 7.2 on pci0 usb0: on uhci0 usb0: USB revision 1.0 uhub0: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub0: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered uhci1: port 0xa800-0xa81f irq 10 at device 7.3 on pci0 usb1: on uhci1 usb1: USB revision 1.0 uhub1: VIA UHCI root hub, class 9/0, rev 1.00/1.00, addr 1 uhub1: 2 ports with 2 removable, self powered chip2: port 0xb400-0xb403,0xb000-0xb003,0xac00-0xacff irq 5 at device 7.5 on pci0 fxp0: port 0xbc00-0xbc3f mem 0xdc000000-0xdc0fffff,0xdc100000-0xdc100fff irq 11 at device 9.0 on pci0 fxp0: Ethernet address 00:90:27:c1:32:cb pci0: (vendor=0x0675, dev=0x1702) at 13.0 irq 11 pcib1: on motherboard pci2: on pcib1 fdc0: at port 0x3f0-0x3f5,0x3f7 irq 6 drq 2 on isa0 fdc0: FIFO enabled, 8 bytes threshold fd0: <1440-KB 3.5" drive> on fdc0 drive 0 atkbdc0: at port 0x60,0x64 on isa0 atkbd0: flags 0x1 irq 1 on atkbdc0 kbd0 at atkbd0 psm0: irq 12 on atkbdc0 psm0: model MouseMan+, device ID 0 vga0: at port 0x3c0-0x3df iomem 0xa0000-0xbffff on isa0 sc0: at flags 0x100 on isa0 sc0: VGA <16 virtual consoles, flags=0x300> sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 flags 0x10 on isa0 sio0: type 16550A sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 on isa0 sio1: type 16550A ppc0: at port 0x378-0x37f irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppc0: FIFO with 16/16/8 bytes threshold plip0: on ppbus0 lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Interrupt-driven port ppi0: on ppbus0 IP packet filtering initialized, divert disabled, rule-based forwarding disabled, default to deny, logging disabled DUMMYNET initialized (010124) ad0: 43979MB [89355/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA66 acd0: CD-RW at ata1-master using PIO3 ast0: TAPE at ata1-slave using PIO0 Mounting root from ufs:/dev/ad0s2a ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Finally, here's the output from 'ipfw list' with the DUMMYNET options enabled (as I said, with these loaded it crashes as soon as I connect to the box): ---------------------------------------------------------------------- 00100 allow ip from any to any via lo0 00200 deny ip from any to 127.0.0.0/8 00300 deny ip from 127.0.0.0/8 to any 00400 pipe 1 ip from any to any 00500 allow tcp from any to any established 00600 allow ip from any to any frag 00700 allow tcp from any to 192.168.0.21 25 setup 00800 allow tcp from any to 192.168.0.21 21 setup 00900 allow tcp from any to 192.168.0.21 137-139 setup 01000 allow udp from any to any 137-139 01100 allow tcp from 192.168.0.21 to any setup 01200 deny tcp from any to any 0-1023 setup 01300 allow tcp from any to any setup 01400 allow udp from 192.168.0.21 to any 53 keep-state 01500 allow udp from 192.168.0.21 to any 123 keep-state 65535 deny ip from any to any ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Please tell me if there's anything else I can do in order to help eliminate the bug. HTH, Manuel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 10 4:59: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8100637B718 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 04:59:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id XAA08555; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 23:59:03 +1100 Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 23:58:51 +1100 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-Sender: bde@besplex.bde.org To: FreeBSD Stable Cc: Mikhail Teterin Subject: Re: load stays at 1 on an idle machine In-Reply-To: <20010309114435.B45561@ohm.physics.purdue.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Will Andrews wrote: > On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 10:39:53AM -0500, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > I was running a single instance of SETI@Home, when I observed the load > > of 2. I stopped seti and the load went down to one. It stays there for > > about 20 hours already. The machine is idle: > top(1) doesn't show all stats relevant to the load average. Check > vmstat/systat/iostat/netstat/etc. Perhaps it is the entropy harvester reaping itself ;-). > Besides, the load average is a > worthless metric if you ask me. Erm, it is a fundamental part of the scheduler. The scheduler is b0rked, but not that part of it. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 10 5:38:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from midget.dons.net.au (daniel.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.137.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D19337B719 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 05:38:12 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (guppy.dons.net.au [203.31.81.9]) by midget.dons.net.au (8.11.1/8.9.3) with ESMTP id f29AGKe83235; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 20:46:20 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3AA8ACA7.BAD4D918@sanbi.ac.za> Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 20:45:42 +1030 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Irvine Short Subject: RE: XF86 4 on 4.3-RELEASE? Cc: stable@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 09-Mar-01 Irvine Short wrote: > XF86 4 on 4.3-RELEASE? > > Anyone know if this will be the case? No, X4 doesn't support enough old hardware yet. -- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 10 5:39:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp6.mindspring.com (smtp6.mindspring.com [207.69.200.110]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E0437B719 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 05:39:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mvh@ix.netcom.com) Received: from netcom1.netcom.com (lai-ca4c-134.ix.netcom.com [209.110.246.134]) by smtp6.mindspring.com (8.9.3/8.8.5) with ESMTP id IAA12595; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 08:39:35 -0500 (EST) Received: by netcom1.netcom.com (Postfix, from userid 1000) id BF1A4113E7A; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 05:27:22 -0800 (PST) From: Mike Harding To: bde@zeta.org.au Cc: stable@FreeBSD.org, mi@aldan.algebra.com In-reply-to: (message from Bruce Evans on Sat, 10 Mar 2001 23:58:51 +1100 (EST)) Subject: Re: load stays at 1 on an idle machine References: Message-Id: <20010310132722.BF1A4113E7A@netcom1.netcom.com> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 05:27:22 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have seen this behavior a number of times over the years, but never tracked it down. I even looked at the kernel code which computed the load to see if I could identify anything obvious. I have noticed that when this happes, the load is basically a completely stable value of 1.0 or very close to it, almost like it is in a locally stable state. Didn't look for zombies though - I use junkbuster and it always keeps a few zombies around because the main spawn loop is screwy. (grrr). - Mike Harding Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 23:58:51 +1100 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-Sender: bde@besplex.bde.org Cc: Mikhail Teterin Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk On Fri, 9 Mar 2001, Will Andrews wrote: > On Fri, Mar 09, 2001 at 10:39:53AM -0500, Mikhail Teterin wrote: > > I was running a single instance of SETI@Home, when I observed the load > > of 2. I stopped seti and the load went down to one. It stays there for > > about 20 hours already. The machine is idle: > top(1) doesn't show all stats relevant to the load average. Check > vmstat/systat/iostat/netstat/etc. Perhaps it is the entropy harvester reaping itself ;-). > Besides, the load average is a > worthless metric if you ask me. Erm, it is a fundamental part of the scheduler. The scheduler is b0rked, but not that part of it. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 10 5:44:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from salmon.maths.tcd.ie (salmon.maths.tcd.ie [134.226.81.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 21E3037B718 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 05:44:32 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from iedowse@maths.tcd.ie) Received: from walton.maths.tcd.ie by salmon.maths.tcd.ie with SMTP id ; 10 Mar 2001 13:44:31 +0000 (GMT) To: Manuel Kasper Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, "Rodney W. Grimes" , iedowse@maths.tcd.ie Subject: Re: panic, ipfw broken in stable? In-Reply-To: Your message of "Sat, 10 Mar 2001 12:38:17 +0100." <200103101238170970.00A30124@smtp.freesurf.ch> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:44:31 +0000 From: Ian Dowse Message-ID: <200103101344.aa31695@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message <200103101238170970.00A30124@smtp.freesurf.ch>, Manuel Kasper writes : > >Please tell me if there's anything else I can do in order to help eliminate >the bug. It seems that any dummynet configuration that passes output packets through a dummynet pipe will cause this. Here is a patch that appears to work around the problem: Ian Index: ip_output.c =================================================================== RCS file: /dump/FreeBSD-CVS/src/sys/netinet/ip_output.c,v retrieving revision 1.99.2.12 diff -u -r1.99.2.12 ip_output.c --- ip_output.c 2001/03/04 21:09:46 1.99.2.12 +++ ip_output.c 2001/03/10 02:23:07 @@ -179,6 +179,7 @@ #endif ip = mtod(m, struct ip *); hlen = IP_VHL_HL(ip->ip_vhl) << 2 ; + ia = (struct in_ifaddr *)ro->ro_rt->rt_ifa; goto sendit; } else rule = NULL ; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 10 5:52:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (genesi.lnk.telstra.net [139.130.136.161]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F3FF37B718 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 05:52:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Received: from cain.gsoft.com.au (doconnor@cain [203.38.152.97]) by cain.gsoft.com.au (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id TAA09405; Fri, 9 Mar 2001 19:05:59 +1030 (CST) (envelope-from doconnor@gsoft.com.au) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2001 19:05:59 +1030 (CST) From: "Daniel O'Connor" To: Mikhail Kruk Subject: Re: top/systat Cc: stable@freebsd.org, Andrew Hesford Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On 09-Mar-01 Mikhail Kruk wrote: > > In either case, the kernel symbols aren't loaded, and top relies on > > them. > > btw this doesn't seem to make sense. I'd appreciate if you point me to > something that would clarify this to me. I don't understand how top and > friends use the symbols in kernel and I feel that I would like to know > that. top et al open /dev/kmem (which is a file by which you can read kernel memory) and then look for these symbols and read the data straight out of kernel space.. Efficient but gross :) --- Daniel O'Connor software and network engineer for Genesis Software - http://www.gsoft.com.au "The nice thing about standards is that there are so many of them to choose from." -- Andrew Tanenbaum To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 10 11:40:53 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from c001.snv.cp.net (c001-h019.c001.snv.cp.net [209.228.32.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7A49337B719 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 11:40:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scott@sawilson.org) Received: (cpmta 20007 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2001 11:40:43 -0800 Date: 10 Mar 2001 11:40:43 -0800 Message-ID: <20010310194043.20006.cpmta@c001.snv.cp.net> X-Sent: 10 Mar 2001 19:40:43 GMT Received: from [165.247.19.41] by mail.sawilson.org with HTTP; 10 Mar 2001 11:40:43 PST Content-Type: text/plain Content-Disposition: inline Mime-Version: 1.0 To: stable@freebsd.org From: scott@sawilson.org X-Mailer: Web Mail 3.7.1.9 Subject: Re: retail linux quake3arena, freebsd 4.3 beta Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Nevermind! I finally found some 3dfx glide drivers by doing an ftpsearch. In case anyone else has been enduring this, I found them here: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/peanut/pkgs/3DFX-GLIDE/ the file you want is: Glide_V2-3.01.tar.bz2 I did this: mv Glide_V2-3.01.tar.bz2 /tmp cd /tmp bunzip2 Glide_V2-3.01.tar.bz2 cd /usr/compat/linux tar xvf /tmp/Glide_V2-3.01.tar /usr/compat/linux/sbin/ldconfig That gets it installed. I then ran the test programs in /usr/compat/linux/usr/local/glide. Worked like a charm. There doesn't appear to be a single correct document out there for getting the voodoo2 working under freebsd. They are all outdated, or point to http://linux.3dfx.com to get the driver. This site is gone gone gone. Also, most of them refer to Glide_V2-2.53-x when version 3.01 would appear to be more recent. I'm going to put a doc up on http://sawilson.org, and a copy of the glide file since the sites that have it appear to dry up fast. I'd assume there would be a lot of interest in using the voodoo2 since it's still faster than most of the more expensive cards using utah-glx. A /usr/port/graphics/linux-voodoo2 port would probably be pretty easy to do. I"m assuming there is some legal or etiquette reason that this doesn't already exist. I'll probably whip one up for download, and spam the list when it's done. Please shoot me mail if you have any questions. On Sat, 10 March 2001, scott@sawilson.org wrote: > > lo there, > > > I swear at some point I had q3test working under freebsd 4.0 with my voodoo2 card. The day the full retail version came out, I tried in vain for about a week to get it working and gave up. I've decided to try again. I started out with a google search, and only turned up documentation for using the utah-glx drivers with non-voodoo cards. I'm hoping that someone has this working with 4.3-beta and a voodoo2 and can shed some light on this. I noticed 3dfx's site is gone. I was going to try to get the latest voodoo2 linux rpm, and use rpm2cpio to install it with linux-glide. I'm 3 days into this and pulling my rapidly disappearing hair out at this point. If there is a good doc online that covers using a voodoo2 card with freebsd and the full retail version of linux quake3arena, that would rule. I'll be damned if I could find it. If someone has the full retail version working with the latest stable and a voodoo2 card, please let me know what the magic dance is I have to do to get it working. If I'm screwed and I have to use the utah-glx and get a new card, that's fine. I was about to do that anyway. :) I plan on getting the best card I can for the upcoming Doom3 release. This is just to pass the time until that does happen and this list is flooded with questions about doom3. :) > > PS: what is the current badass card for 3d gaming under freebsd? > > Thanks In Advance > > Best Regards, > > Scott Alan Wilson > http://sawilson.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message Best Regards, Scott Alan Wilson http://sawilson.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 10 11:59:49 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from tao.org.uk (genius.tao.org.uk [212.135.162.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F76837B718 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 11:59:46 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from joe@tao.org.uk) Received: by tao.org.uk (Postfix, from userid 100) id E01553121; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 19:59:51 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 19:59:51 +0000 From: Josef Karthauser To: Ian Dowse Cc: Manuel Kasper , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, "Rodney W. Grimes" Subject: Re: panic, ipfw broken in stable? Message-ID: <20010310195951.B15099@tao.org.uk> Mail-Followup-To: Josef Karthauser , Ian Dowse , Manuel Kasper , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, "Rodney W. Grimes" References: <200103101238170970.00A30124@smtp.freesurf.ch> <200103101344.aa31695@salmon.maths.tcd.ie> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0eh6TmSyL6TZE2Uz" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <200103101344.aa31695@salmon.maths.tcd.ie>; from iedowse@maths.tcd.ie on Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 01:44:31PM +0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --0eh6TmSyL6TZE2Uz Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Mar 10, 2001 at 01:44:31PM +0000, Ian Dowse wrote: > In message <200103101238170970.00A30124@smtp.freesurf.ch>, Manuel Kasper = writes > : > > > >Please tell me if there's anything else I can do in order to help elimin= ate > >the bug. >=20 > It seems that any dummynet configuration that passes output packets > through a dummynet pipe will cause this. Here is a patch that > appears to work around the problem: >=20 > Ian I'll look to committing this tomorrow. Joe --0eh6TmSyL6TZE2Uz Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iEYEARECAAYFAjqqh7cACgkQXVIcjOaxUBbHXwCfR0XFF9yVMObtVnFpXQO5pk4q LEoAn0Bcuy9er4TupLHhBl1qsDFIywhg =zxCF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0eh6TmSyL6TZE2Uz-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 10 13: 6: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from c007.snv.cp.net (c007-h000.c007.snv.cp.net [209.228.33.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6854A37B719 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:06:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from schloss11@telocity.com) Received: (cpmta 1267 invoked from network); 10 Mar 2001 12:50:18 -0800 Received: from dsl-64-193-199-69.telocity.com (HELO mothership) (64.193.199.69) by smtp.telocity.com (209.228.33.206) with SMTP; 10 Mar 2001 12:50:18 -0800 X-Sent: 10 Mar 2001 20:50:18 GMT Message-ID: <001b01c0a9a3$71355d60$7a29fea9@yeehaa.local> From: "scott schlosser" To: Subject: Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 14:48:20 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0018_01C0A971.26348A70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C0A971.26348A70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable unsubscribe freebsd-stable ------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C0A971.26348A70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0018_01C0A971.26348A70-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 10 13:25: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from isris.pair.com (isris.pair.com [209.68.2.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A8DD837B719 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:25:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rooneg@isris.pair.com) Received: (qmail 62245 invoked by uid 3130); 10 Mar 2001 21:25:00 -0000 Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:25:00 -0500 From: Garrett Rooney To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Cc: jhk@freebsd.org Subject: snd modules in loader.conf Message-ID: <20010310162500.A59325@electricjellyfish.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG (cced to jhk because he seems to be the one who commited these lines to the file) I just cvsuped, to 4.3-BETA, and everything seems to be working fine, but i just noticed that in /boot/defaults/loader.conf, the lines for the snd modules are wrong. all of them need to end in _load for anything to actually happen (of ocurse, this doesn't show up normally because they're all defaulted to off, but if you copy the lines into your loader.conf and change to yes, nothing will happen unless they end in _load). this should probably be fixed before 4.3. i submitted a pr with a patch, http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=25659 -- garrett rooney Unix was not designed to stop you from rooneg@electricjellyfish.net doing stupid things, because that would http://electricjellyfish.net/ stop you from doing clever things. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 10 13:48:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com (smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.1.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 43D2E37B719 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 13:48:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from meconlen@obfuscated.net) Received: from clarity (24129168hfc216.tampabay.rr.com [24.129.168.216]) by smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f2ALmN027872 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:48:23 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael Conlen" To: Subject: SSH Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:42:39 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG When I logged in via ssh I mistyped my password, but got access. Only my account seemed to be affected. This showed up in the log files. Mar 10 19:47:26 eno sshd[7400]: fatal: buffer_get: trying to get more bytes than in buffer I'm going to try to go to -stable and see if it is still happening. If so, I will be happy to help debug Some info... # uname -a FreeBSD eno.obfuscated.net 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #7: Tue Feb 27 23:20:23 EST 2001 meconlen@eno.obfuscated.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENO i386 # /usr/sbin/sshd -V sshd: option requires an argument -- V sshd version OpenSSH_2.3.0 -- Groove On Dude Michael Conlen Obfuscated Networking meconlen@obfuscated.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 10 14:14:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fat.ti.ru (fat.ti.ru [212.1.224.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65C3637B718 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 14:14:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Martin@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (fat.ti.ru [212.1.224.35]) by fat.ti.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78DC5D91A for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:14:11 +0300 (MSK) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:14:10 +0300 From: Martin McFlySr X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.49) Personal Reply-To: Martin McFlySr Organization: Back To The Future X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <17615811866.20010311011410@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: tcp_usrreq.c is broken? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello , 4.2S, #config Kernel ... #cd ../../compile/Kernel #make depend ... #make ... cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -Wmissing -prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -ansi -no stdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.h -elf -mpreferred-stack-boundary=2 ../../netinet/tcp_usrreq.c ../../netinet/tcp_usrreq.c: In function `tcp_usr_accept': ../../netinet/tcp_usrreq.c:424: syntax error before `int' ../../netinet/tcp_usrreq.c:424: `ostate' undeclared (first use in this function) ../../netinet/tcp_usrreq.c:424: (Each undeclared identifier is reported only once ../../netinet/tcp_usrreq.c:424: for each function it appears in.) ../../netinet/tcp_usrreq.c:418: warning: `tp' might be used uninitialized in this function *** Error code 1 what i can doing for fix this? i make cvsup some ninutes ago, but no frehs tcp_usrreq.c :( #grep FreeBSD /usr/src/sys/netinet/tcp_usrreq.c * $FreeBSD: src/sys/netinet/tcp_usrreq.c,v 1.51.2.1 2001/03/09 16:41:20 jlemon Exp $ thank you, -- Sunday, 11 March 2001, 01:08 Best regards from future, Martin McFlySr, HillDale. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 10 14:19: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from fat.ti.ru (fat.ti.ru [212.1.224.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B2F0737B718 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 14:19:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Martin@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru) Received: from 127.0.0.1 (fat.ti.ru [212.1.224.35]) by fat.ti.ru (Postfix) with ESMTP id C68C0D91A for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:19:02 +0300 (MSK) Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 01:19:02 +0300 From: Martin McFlySr X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.49) Personal Reply-To: Martin McFlySr Organization: Back To The Future X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <15516104687.20010311011902@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru> To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tcp_usrreq.c is broken? [4.3-BETA] In-reply-To: <17615811866.20010311011410@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru> References: <17615811866.20010311011410@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hello Martin McFlySr, Sunday, 11 March 2001, 01:14:10, you wrote: MM> Hello , MM> 4.2S, 4.3-BETA, of course... -- Sunday, 11 March 2001, 01:17 Best regards from future, Martin McFlySr, HillDale. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 10 14:58:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com (smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.1.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF70C37B718 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 14:58:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from meconlen@obfuscated.net) Received: from clarity (24129168hfc216.tampabay.rr.com [24.129.168.216]) by smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f2ALwV002192; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:58:31 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael Conlen" To: "Michael Conlen" , Subject: RE: SSH Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 16:52:47 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG More research has discovered that when the ~/.identity file is removed that the user can not login at all and with it there they can login with any password. -- Groove On Dude Michael Conlen Obfuscated Networking meconlen@obfuscated.net > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Michael Conlen > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 4:43 PM > To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org > Subject: SSH > > > > When I logged in via ssh I mistyped my password, but got access. Only my > account seemed to be affected. This showed up in the log files. > > Mar 10 19:47:26 eno sshd[7400]: fatal: buffer_get: trying to get > more bytes > than in buffer > > I'm going to try to go to -stable and see if it is still > happening. If so, I > will be happy to help debug > > Some info... > > # uname -a > FreeBSD eno.obfuscated.net 4.2-STABLE FreeBSD 4.2-STABLE #7: Tue Feb 27 > 23:20:23 EST 2001 meconlen@eno.obfuscated.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/ENO > i386 > > # /usr/sbin/sshd -V > sshd: option requires an argument -- V > sshd version OpenSSH_2.3.0 > > -- > Groove On Dude > Michael Conlen > Obfuscated Networking > meconlen@obfuscated.net > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 10 15:25:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from level3.dynacom.net (level3.dynacom.net [206.107.213.213]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1BF6937B718 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:25:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@urx.com) Received: (qmail 19562 invoked by uid 0); 10 Mar 2001 23:25:28 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO urx.com) (206.159.132.160) by mail.urx.com with SMTP; 10 Mar 2001 23:25:28 -0000 Message-ID: <3AAAB7E7.8B96ECF@urx.com> Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:25:27 -0800 From: Kent Stewart Reply-To: kstewart@urx.com Organization: Dynacom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (Windows NT 5.0; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Martin McFlySr Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tcp_usrreq.c is broken? [4.3-BETA] References: <17615811866.20010311011410@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru> <15516104687.20010311011902@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Martin McFlySr wrote: > > Hello Martin McFlySr, > > Sunday, 11 March 2001, 01:14:10, you wrote: > > MM> Hello , > > MM> 4.2S, > 4.3-BETA, of course... My uname is "4.3-BETA FreeBSD 4.3-BETA #1: Sat Mar 10 05:13:40 PST 2001" and I didn't have any problem. The date of the tcp_usrreq.c is the same as the one you have. Did you do a buildworld and then use the buildkernel method of making your kernel after you did your cvsup? That worked for me. Kent > > -- > Sunday, 11 March 2001, > 01:17 > > Best regards from future, > Martin McFlySr, HillDale. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA mailto:kbstew99@hotmail.com http://kstewart.urx.com/kstewart/index.html FreeBSD News http://daily.daemonnews.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 10 15:42:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (adsl-63-207-60-158.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.207.60.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE88537B718 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:42:10 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4FB8466E99; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:42:10 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 15:42:10 -0800 From: Kris Kennaway To: Martin McFlySr Cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: tcp_usrreq.c is broken? Message-ID: <20010310154209.A23785@mollari.cthul.hu> References: <17615811866.20010311011410@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <17615811866.20010311011410@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru>; from Martin@McFlySr.Kurgan.Ru on Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 01:14:10AM +0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Mar 11, 2001 at 01:14:10AM +0300, Martin McFlySr wrote: > Hello , >=20 > 4.2S, >=20 > #config Kernel > ... > #cd ../../compile/Kernel > #make depend > ... > #make > ... > cc -c -O -Wall -Wredundant-decls -Wnested-externs -Wstrict-prototypes -W= missing > -prototypes -Wpointer-arith -Winline -Wcast-qual -fformat-extensions -an= si -no > stdinc -I- -I. -I../.. -I../../../include -D_KERNEL -include opt_global.= h -elf > -mpreferred-stack-boundary=3D2 ../../netinet/tcp_usrreq.c > ../../netinet/tcp_usrreq.c: In function `tcp_usr_accept': > ../../netinet/tcp_usrreq.c:424: syntax error before `int' > ../../netinet/tcp_usrreq.c:424: `ostate' undeclared (first use in this fu= nction) > ../../netinet/tcp_usrreq.c:424: (Each undeclared identifier is reported o= nly once > ../../netinet/tcp_usrreq.c:424: for each function it appears in.) > ../../netinet/tcp_usrreq.c:418: warning: `tp' might be used uninitialized= in this > function > *** Error code 1 =20 >=20 >=20 > what i can doing for fix this? i make cvsup some ninutes ago, but no frehs > tcp_usrreq.c :( It works for me. Perhaps you have a corrupted or incompletely updated sour= ce tree. Kris --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE6qrvRWry0BWjoQKURAhhPAKCpO/Cw5Q9WVZUR/YzWuKsszfuCQwCgn5oZ 2fgKpXxob9/m3zSl4C8gJ2g= =trTW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --7JfCtLOvnd9MIVvH-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 10 17: 0:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from enigma.crypt-net.org (enigma.crypt-net.org [216.254.75.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6217B37B718 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:00:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mjw@crypt-net.org) Received: from indigo.crypt-net.org (indigo.crypt-net.org [216.254.75.170]) by enigma.crypt-net.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08994202E for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:00:46 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 19:56:33 -0500 From: Matt White To: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Read-only UnionFS Message-ID: <22480000.984272193@indigo.crypt-net.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/2.0.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I have need of a union like filesystem but do not need that filesystem to be read-write. My understanding is that the main broken-ness of the union filesystem is that whiteouts are likely to cause my system to panic. Since I'm mounting my unions read-only, this particular problem shouldn't bother me. I'm wondering if there is any other major brokeness with the union filesystem. Anyone else out there play with this? -Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 10 17:13:54 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from musique.teaser.fr (musique.teaser.net [213.91.2.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 51A1937B718 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 17:13:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jaco@teaser.fr) Received: from titine.fr.eu.org (Cour-N1D41-112.teaser.net [213.91.41.112]) by musique.teaser.fr (Postfix) with ESMTP id A18C57250D for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 02:13:45 +0100 (CET) Received: by titine.fr.eu.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 847BD32F8; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 02:12:38 +0100 (CET) X-Attribution: Jaco To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Pb with ATA driver and FBSD-4.3 From: Eric Jacoboni Date: 11 Mar 2001 02:12:38 +0100 Message-ID: <86hf112jnd.fsf@titine.fr.eu.org> Lines: 22 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090001 (Oort Gnus v0.01) Emacs/21.0.99 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG As usual, i've cvsupped my stable box, which is now 4.3-BETA. It seems there is a (big) problem with ATA driver as dmesg says : ad0: 43979MB [89355/16/63] at ata0-master tagged UDMA100 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master using UDMA33 ata1-slave: <ÿÿÛí ÿÿÛí/ÿÿßÿ> Unknown device - NO DRIVER! Before this upgrade, it was : ad0: 43979MB [89355/16/63] at ata0-master tagged UDMA100 acd0: CDROM at ata1-master using UDMA33 acd1: CD-RW at ata1-slave using WDMA2 which was very very better ;-) I've don't changed anything with my kernconf : just cvsup, make buildword/buildkernel/installkernel/installworld, mergemaster, reboot. Is this problem known ? -- Éric Jacoboni, né il y a 1287633973 secondes. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 10 20:47:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from shalimar.net.au (shalimar.net.au [198.142.161.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B72B837B718 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:47:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from count@shalimar.net.au) Received: from shalimar.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by shalimar.net.au (8.11.2/8.11.1) with SMTP id f2B4l5V85889 for ; Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:47:06 +1100 (EST) (envelope-from count@shalimar.net.au) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Zero Sum Organization: Tobacco Chewers and Body Painters Association. To: Subject: POP3 Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2001 15:47:04 +1100 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.2] References: In-Reply-To: X-originating-IP: coolmail.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <01031115470400.69694@shalimar.net.au> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Sometime in the last week or so, my POP server seems to be refusing the correct passwords. Have there been any recently that would cause this? I've looked at everything I know about but can't find the problem. Can somebody point me in the right direction? Geoff -- count@shalimar.net.au Vescere bracis meis http://www.hack.gr/jargon/html/D/disclaimer.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-stable Sat Mar 10 20:55:41 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com (smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com [65.32.1.34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E774C37B718 for ; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 20:55:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from meconlen@obfuscated.net) Received: from clarity (24129168hfc216.tampabay.rr.com [24.129.168.216]) by smtp-server1.tampabay.rr.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id f2B4qk018489; Sat, 10 Mar 2001 23:52:47 -0500 (EST) From: "Michael Conlen" To: "Zero Sum" , Subject: RE: POP3 Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2001 23:47:17 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-reply-to: <01031115470400.69694@shalimar.net.au> Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Check your pam.conf. I've seen at least two problems with this recently. I'm having all sorts of PAM issues with ssh. Check your log files, if you get a message about having problems finding a module for it then that's probably it. Just an intuitive guess -- Groove On Dude Michael Conlen Obfuscated Networking meconlen@obfuscated.net > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Zero Sum > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2001 11:47 PM > To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: POP3 > > > > Sometime in the last week or so, my POP server seems to be refusing the > correct passwords. > > Have there been any recently that would cause this? I've looked at > everything I know about but can't find the problem. > > Can somebody point me in the right direction? > > Geoff > -- > count@shalimar.net.au Vescere bracis meis > http://www.hack.gr/jargon/html/D/disclaimer.html > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message