From owner-freebsd-cluster Tue Jul 23 14:33: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E8A037B400 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:33:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vps.vitalit.com (vps.vitalit.com [64.105.194.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 735D643E31 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 14:33:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from car@vitalit.com) Received: from LAPTOP (gso88-201-035.triad.rr.com [24.88.201.35]) by vps.vitalit.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g6NLX2873571 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:33:04 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from car@vitalit.com) Message-ID: <001201c23290$78624220$be01000a@LAPTOP> From: "Rouzer, Charles A (Chuck)" To: Subject: Porting SSIC-Linux Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 17:32:36 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Just curious if anyone has considered porting SSIC-Linux to FreeBSD? This is exactly what I'm looking for in the future of FreeBSD clustering. -- Chuck Rouzer Vital Information Technology, Inc. http://www.vitalit.com http://www.vitalserver.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-cluster" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-cluster Wed Jul 24 1:20:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0262337B400 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 01:20:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gate.nentec.de (gate2.nentec.de [194.25.215.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61E4E43E5E for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 01:20:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sporner@nentec.de) Received: from nenny.nentec.de (root@nenny.nentec.de [153.92.64.1]) by gate.nentec.de (8.11.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g6O8KAA25116; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:20:10 +0200 Received: from nentec.de (andromeda.nentec.de [153.92.64.34]) by nenny.nentec.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id g6O8K8Z28834; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:20:08 +0200 Message-ID: <3D3E6338.1060209@nentec.de> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:20:08 +0200 From: Andy Sporner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; de-AT; rv:0.9.8) Gecko/20020204 X-Accept-Language: de-at, de, en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Rouzer, Charles A (Chuck)" Cc: freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Porting SSIC-Linux References: <001201c23290$78624220$be01000a@LAPTOP> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-perl11-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Hi, I looked into the home page of the SSI project and it seems to have common goals of the Phase-2 project. The difference is that we have things that are not currenly on their road map (migratable sockets) and a memory strategy that supports clustered shared memory (which they don't have). To port something is nice for getting things quick, but I don't see phase-2 as wholy taking code from SSI. We will share components that are in common with it (such as filesystems and such) but really the phase-2 stuff really only affects the process schedule and VM subsystem. The stuff with sockets is another matter and should be portable. I myself only know the BSD kernel well and I think it would take a person with equal knowledge of both kernels to realize a porting effort. Where re-inventing the wheel is generally a bad thing, I consider it a good thing when such system software is correctly implemented--which is not necessarily possible in a porting effort. -Andy Rouzer, Charles A (Chuck) wrote: > Just curious if anyone has considered porting SSIC-Linux to FreeBSD? > > This is exactly what I'm looking for in the future of FreeBSD >clustering. > >-- >Chuck Rouzer >Vital Information Technology, Inc. >http://www.vitalit.com >http://www.vitalserver.com > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-cluster" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-cluster" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-cluster Wed Jul 24 1:28:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAF7237B400 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 01:28:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vps.vitalit.com (vps.vitalit.com [64.105.194.69]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D378E43E42 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 01:28:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from car@vitalit.com) Received: from LAPTOP ([24.88.201.35]) by vps.vitalit.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g6O8Sd834694; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 04:28:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from car@vitalit.com) Message-ID: <001001c232ec$1b0eca60$be01000a@LAPTOP> From: "Rouzer, Charles A (Chuck)" To: "Andy Sporner" Cc: References: <001201c23290$78624220$be01000a@LAPTOP> <3D3E6338.1060209@nentec.de> Subject: Re: Porting SSIC-Linux Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 04:28:34 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > I looked into the home page of the SSI project and it seems to have common > goals of the Phase-2 project. The difference is that we have things > that are > not currenly on their road map (migratable sockets) and a memory > strategy that > supports clustered shared memory (which they don't have). You may want to contact the mailing list or Brian Watson. IIRC there has been discussion of migratable sockets and shared memory. Not sure why this months archives are broken. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-cluster" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-cluster Wed Jul 24 1:56:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-cluster@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88BE37B400 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 01:56:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gate.nentec.de (gate2.nentec.de [194.25.215.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B79643E72 for ; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 01:55:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sporner@nentec.de) Received: from nenny.nentec.de (root@nenny.nentec.de [153.92.64.1]) by gate.nentec.de (8.11.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g6O8tXA30319; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:55:33 +0200 Received: from nentec.de (andromeda.nentec.de [153.92.64.34]) by nenny.nentec.de (8.11.3/8.11.3/SuSE Linux 8.11.1-0.5) with ESMTP id g6O8tUZ30598; Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:55:30 +0200 Message-ID: <3D3E6B82.8020901@nentec.de> Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 10:55:30 +0200 From: Andy Sporner User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; de-AT; rv:0.9.8) Gecko/20020204 X-Accept-Language: de-at, de, en, en-us MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Rouzer, Charles A (Chuck)" Cc: freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Porting SSIC-Linux References: <001201c23290$78624220$be01000a@LAPTOP> <3D3E6338.1060209@nentec.de> <001001c232ec$1b0eca60$be01000a@LAPTOP> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-perl11-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rouzer, Charles A (Chuck) wrote: >>I looked into the home page of the SSI project and it seems to have common >>goals of the Phase-2 project. The difference is that we have things >>that are >>not currenly on their road map (migratable sockets) and a memory >>strategy that >>supports clustered shared memory (which they don't have). >> > > You may want to contact the mailing list or Brian Watson. IIRC there >has been discussion of migratable sockets and shared memory. Not sure why >this months archives are broken. > I hope this "cooperation" works better than before because normally people don't answer emails coming from me --especially people from core! :-) > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-cluster" in the body of the message