From owner-freebsd-firewire Tue Sep 10 17:20:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E08D937B401 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:20:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3C26743E4A for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:20:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from InterJet.elischer.org ([12.232.206.8]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020911002007.XOEJ10266.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@InterJet.elischer.org> for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 00:20:07 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id RAA64851 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:01:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:01:34 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: firewire@freebsd.org Subject: hello lurkers.. Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-firewire@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Well I know this isn't an active list but I also know that people ARE working on 1394 and do listen to this.. OK, so as a llong-term FreeBSD committer I want to get Firewire into the CVS tree in teh next few weeks. What I need to know is: 1/ it seems to me there are two 'variants' of firewire code. What is being done to address this? (DV vs General) 2/ are the current patches commitable vs -current? Note: they do NOT HAVE TO WORK to be commitable, but they should compile. New features need not be committed fully functional, but it makes it a LOT easier to get lots of testers if it is checked in. let me know how I can push this because 5.0 is close and I'd like to see it standard in 4.8 as well. (I actually need it in 4.4) julian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-firewire" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-firewire Tue Sep 10 17:36: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79BB837B400 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:36:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dibbler.ne.client2.attbi.com (dibbler.ne.client2.attbi.com [24.61.41.247]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F30943E6A for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:35:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from rodrigc@attbi.com) Received: from dibbler.ne.client2.attbi.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by dibbler.ne.client2.attbi.com (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8B0a2gr000861; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:36:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from rodrigc@dibbler.ne.client2.attbi.com) Received: (from rodrigc@localhost) by dibbler.ne.client2.attbi.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id g8B0a1IJ000860; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:36:01 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:36:01 -0400 From: Craig Rodrigues To: Julian Elischer Cc: firewire@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hello lurkers.. Message-ID: <20020910203601.B799@attbi.com> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: ; from julian@elischer.org on Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 05:01:34PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-firewire@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 05:01:34PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: > What I need to know is: > 1/ it seems to me there are two 'variants' of firewire code. > What is being done to address this? (DV vs General) > > 2/ are the current patches commitable vs -current? > Note: they do NOT HAVE TO WORK to be commitable, but they should compile. Hidetoshi Shimokawa seemed to be actively working on Firewire, and has patches here: http://people.freebsd.org/~simokawa but they haven't been updated since July. I don't know if Hidetoshi is around, he hasn't responded to queries on the mailing list lately. -- Craig Rodrigues http://www.gis.net/~craigr rodrigc@attbi.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-firewire" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-firewire Tue Sep 10 18: 0:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55F0037B400 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 18:00:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5585643E3B for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 18:00:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g8B10a9R021600; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:00:36 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:00:28 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20020910.190028.112625168.imp@bsdimp.com> To: rodrigc@attbi.com Cc: julian@elischer.org, firewire@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hello lurkers.. From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20020910203601.B799@attbi.com> References: <20020910203601.B799@attbi.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-firewire@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message: <20020910203601.B799@attbi.com> Craig Rodrigues writes: : On Tue, Sep 10, 2002 at 05:01:34PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: : > What I need to know is: : > 1/ it seems to me there are two 'variants' of firewire code. : > What is being done to address this? (DV vs General) It appears that there's reaelly only one. No need to do anything about it :-) : > 2/ are the current patches commitable vs -current? : > Note: they do NOT HAVE TO WORK to be commitable, but they should compile. : : Hidetoshi Shimokawa seemed to be actively working on Firewire, : and has patches here: : : http://people.freebsd.org/~simokawa : : but they haven't been updated since July. I don't know if Hidetoshi : is around, he hasn't responded to queries on the mailing list lately. He posted to the developer's mailing list July 30th. It looks like the code is ready to roll into -current, save for a couple of tiny integration leg work. Out of respect for shimokawa-san, who is a committer, I've not slammed it in myself. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-firewire" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-firewire Tue Sep 10 19:18:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9703D37B401; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:18:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from is1.mh.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (is1.mh.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.205.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 15D0B43E6A; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:18:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp) Received: from is1.mh.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (is1.mh.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp [127.0.0.1]) by is1.mh.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id A14942180A6; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:17:28 +0900 (JST) Received: from mailhosting.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (IDENT:mirapoint@mailhosting.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.205.3]) by is1.mh.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g8B2HSI29256; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:17:28 +0900 Received: from ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (nat.keisu.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.68.2]) by mailhosting.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id AGZ00542; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:17:26 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:17:26 +0900 Message-ID: From: Hidetoshi Shimokawa To: Julian Elischer Cc: ikob@freebsd.org, firewire@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hello lurkers.. In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.9.14 (Unchained Melody) REMI/1.14.3 (Matsudai) FLIM/1.14.3 (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Unebigory=F2mae?=) APEL/10.3 MULE XEmacs/21.4 (patch 8) (Honest Recruiter) (i386--freebsd) X-Face: OE([KxWyJI0r[R~S/>7ia}SJ)i%a,$-9%7{*yihQk|]gl}2p#"oXmX/fT}Bn7: #j7i14gu$jgR\S*&C3R/pJX List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:01:34 -0700 (PDT), Julian Elischer wrote: > Well I know this isn't an active list but I also know that people ARE > working on 1394 and do listen to this.. > > > OK, so as a llong-term FreeBSD committer I want to > get Firewire into the CVS tree in teh next few weeks. As far as I know, Kobayashi-san will do. > What I need to know is: > 1/ it seems to me there are two 'variants' of firewire code. > What is being done to address this? (DV vs General) Both of two are originally written by Kobayashi-san, the first version (for FreeBSD-4.x, http://www.sfc.wide.ad.jp/DVTS/software/index.html) was discontinued because of the socket interface is objected by FreeBSD developers. He wrote new version from scranch for FreeBSD-5.x which has basic SBP-II support. (ftp://ftp.uec.ac.jp/pub/firewire/beta/) I improved the new driver (SBP-II support, async transactions, kernel module, ethernet emulation, etc.) and put it on http://people.freebsd.org/~simokawa/. > 2/ are the current patches commitable vs -current? > Note: they do NOT HAVE TO WORK to be commitable, but they should compile. > They compile and work. We developed the source under our private CVS repository because When we ask admin@freebsd.org to make repository on freefall for the driver, we cannot get a response. > New features need not be committed fully functional, but it makes it a LOT > easier to get lots of testers if it is checked in. > > let me know how I can push this because 5.0 is close and > I'd like to see it standard in 4.8 as well. > (I actually need it in 4.4) Kobayashi-san, any comments? /\ Hidetoshi Shimokawa \/ simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp PGP public key: http://www.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~simokawa/pgp.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-firewire" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-firewire Tue Sep 10 19:23: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7184337B400 for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:22:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from is2.mh.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (is2.mh.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.205.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D351443E3B for ; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:22:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp) Received: from is2.mh.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (is2.mh.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp [127.0.0.1]) by is2.mh.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170DF378078 for ; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:22:57 +0900 (JST) Received: from mailhosting.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (IDENT:mirapoint@mailhosting.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.205.3]) by is2.mh.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g8B2MuC28624; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:22:56 +0900 Received: from ett.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp (nat.keisu.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp [133.11.68.2]) by mailhosting.itc.u-tokyo.ac.jp (Mirapoint Messaging Server MOS 2.9.3.2) with ESMTP id AGZ00612; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:22:55 +0900 (JST) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:22:55 +0900 Message-ID: From: Hidetoshi Shimokawa To: "Glenn Gombert" Cc: firewire@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Firewire FreeBSD Port Status In-Reply-To: <20020906223422.7531F2FD44@server3.fastmail.fm> References: <20020906223422.7531F2FD44@server3.fastmail.fm> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.9.14 (Unchained Melody) REMI/1.14.3 (Matsudai) FLIM/1.14.3 (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Unebigory=F2mae?=) APEL/10.3 MULE XEmacs/21.4 (patch 8) (Honest Recruiter) (i386--freebsd) X-Face: OE([KxWyJI0r[R~S/>7ia}SJ)i%a,$-9%7{*yihQk|]gl}2p#"oXmX/fT}Bn7: #j7i14gu$jgR\S*&C3R/pJX List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG At Fri, 6 Sep 2002 22:34:22 UT, Glenn Gombert wrote: > > Does anyone know if Hidetoshi will be updating his port of the > Firewire interface at: > > http://people.freebsd.org/~simokawa/ anytime soon?? The files are > somewhat 'out of date' with -Current.. > > (Especially the gdb patch set ...)... As I respond your private mail, I don't understand what part of gdb patch set is `out of date` from your mail. The patch is very small and trivial... /\ Hidetoshi Shimokawa \/ simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp PGP public key: http://www.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~simokawa/pgp.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-firewire" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-firewire Tue Sep 10 19:29:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F17937B400; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:29:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.koganei.wide.ad.jp (koganei.wide.ad.jp [202.249.37.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E494343E72; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:29:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ikob@koganei.wide.ad.jp) Received: from tweedledee.koganei.wide.ad.jp (tweedledee.koganei.wide.ad.jp [202.249.37.72]) (authenticated bits=0) by ns.koganei.wide.ad.jp (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g8B2WUaU020620; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:32:30 +0900 (JST) (envelope-from ikob@koganei.wide.ad.jp) Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 11:30:48 +0900 Subject: Re: hello lurkers.. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v543) Cc: Julian Elischer , ikob@FreeBSD.ORG, firewire@FreeBSD.ORG To: Hidetoshi Shimokawa From: Katsushi Kobayashi In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <7B9732CC-C52E-11D6-A23E-0030657D3460@koganei.wide.ad.jp> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.543) Sender: owner-freebsd-firewire@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG By the efforts of Shimokawa-san, the SBP-II function has enough quality to publish. I believe now is a time to commit -current, since a lot of people expect it. We have to get a new sub directory as sys/dev/firewire before committing. Should we ask arch@freebsd whether it is appropriate ? P.S. After published. WIDE DV guy will port their DV application to the current API. On 2002.Sep.11, at 11:17 AM, Hidetoshi Shimokawa wrote: > At Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:01:34 -0700 (PDT), > Julian Elischer wrote: >> Well I know this isn't an active list but I also know that people ARE >> working on 1394 and do listen to this.. >> >> >> OK, so as a llong-term FreeBSD committer I want to >> get Firewire into the CVS tree in teh next few weeks. > > As far as I know, Kobayashi-san will do. > >> What I need to know is: >> 1/ it seems to me there are two 'variants' of firewire code. >> What is being done to address this? (DV vs General) > > Both of two are originally written by Kobayashi-san, the first version > (for FreeBSD-4.x, http://www.sfc.wide.ad.jp/DVTS/software/index.html) > was discontinued because of the socket interface is objected by > FreeBSD developers. > He wrote new version from scranch for FreeBSD-5.x which has > basic SBP-II support. (ftp://ftp.uec.ac.jp/pub/firewire/beta/) > I improved the new driver (SBP-II support, async transactions, > kernel module, ethernet emulation, etc.) and put it on > http://people.freebsd.org/~simokawa/. > >> 2/ are the current patches commitable vs -current? >> Note: they do NOT HAVE TO WORK to be commitable, but they should >> compile. >> > > They compile and work. > > We developed the source under our private CVS repository because > When we ask admin@freebsd.org to make repository on freefall for the > driver, > we cannot get a response. > >> New features need not be committed fully functional, but it makes it >> a LOT >> easier to get lots of testers if it is checked in. >> >> let me know how I can push this because 5.0 is close and >> I'd like to see it standard in 4.8 as well. >> (I actually need it in 4.4) > > Kobayashi-san, any comments? > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-firewire" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-firewire Tue Sep 10 19:40:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFB4537B400; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:40:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 54FCF43E3B; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:40:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from InterJet.elischer.org ([12.232.206.8]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020911024010.DGXC16673.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@InterJet.elischer.org>; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 02:40:10 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA65471; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:27:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Hidetoshi Shimokawa Cc: ikob@freebsd.org, firewire@freebsd.org Subject: Re: hello lurkers.. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-firewire@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, Hidetoshi Shimokawa wrote: > At Tue, 10 Sep 2002 17:01:34 -0700 (PDT), > Julian Elischer wrote: > > Well I know this isn't an active list but I also know that people ARE > > working on 1394 and do listen to this.. > > > > > > OK, so as a llong-term FreeBSD committer I want to > > get Firewire into the CVS tree in teh next few weeks. > > As far as I know, Kobayashi-san will do. I am happy to let him do so but if I can help to make it easier then I shall do so. > > > What I need to know is: > > 1/ it seems to me there are two 'variants' of firewire code. > > What is being done to address this? (DV vs General) > > Both of two are originally written by Kobayashi-san, the first version > (for FreeBSD-4.x, http://www.sfc.wide.ad.jp/DVTS/software/index.html) > was discontinued because of the socket interface is objected by > FreeBSD developers. I am reading his paper on this. I will know more later > He wrote new version from scranch for FreeBSD-5.x which has > basic SBP-II support. (ftp://ftp.uec.ac.jp/pub/firewire/beta/) > I improved the new driver (SBP-II support, async transactions, > kernel module, ethernet emulation, etc.) and put it on > http://people.freebsd.org/~simokawa/. > > > 2/ are the current patches commitable vs -current? > > Note: they do NOT HAVE TO WORK to be commitable, but they should compile. > > > > They compile and work. > > We developed the source under our private CVS repository because > When we ask admin@freebsd.org to make repository on freefall for the driver, > we cannot get a response. I think this is a problem.. an you tell me what you would ocnsider "perfect"? and we can see what can be achieved. > > > New features need not be committed fully functional, but it makes it a LOT > > easier to get lots of testers if it is checked in. > > > > let me know how I can push this because 5.0 is close and > > I'd like to see it standard in 4.8 as well. > > (I actually need it in 4.4) > > Kobayashi-san, any comments? > > /\ Hidetoshi Shimokawa > \/ simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp > PGP public key: http://www.sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/~simokawa/pgp.html > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-firewire" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-firewire Tue Sep 10 19:40:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D2E437B400; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:40:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ED9943E3B; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:40:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from InterJet.elischer.org ([12.232.206.8]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020911024018.DHBS16673.sccrmhc01.attbi.com@InterJet.elischer.org>; Wed, 11 Sep 2002 02:40:18 +0000 Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA65497; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:34:04 -0700 (PDT) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:34:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Katsushi Kobayashi Cc: Hidetoshi Shimokawa , ikob@FreeBSD.ORG, firewire@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hello lurkers.. In-Reply-To: <7B9732CC-C52E-11D6-A23E-0030657D3460@koganei.wide.ad.jp> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-firewire@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, Katsushi Kobayashi wrote: > > By the efforts of Shimokawa-san, the SBP-II function has enough > quality to publish. I believe now is a time to commit -current, since > a lot of people expect it. > > We have to get a new sub directory as sys/dev/firewire before > committing. > > Should we ask arch@freebsd whether it is appropriate ? no, you should just create the directory. You are a committer so you are to make this decision (with your mentor if you feel you would like help) However I feel it is a suitable place. > > P.S. After published. WIDE DV guy will port their DV application > to the current API. good! do you also plan a version for 4.x ? if you need help to commit. let me know. Remember. This is NEW functionality so you are allowed to commit code that is not perfect. No person will complain if it is not complete or it has errors. regards, Julian > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-firewire" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-firewire Tue Sep 10 20:33:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B98437B400; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:33:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from harmony.village.org (rover.bsdimp.com [204.144.255.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961FB43E3B; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 20:33:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (warner@rover2.village.org [10.0.0.1]) by harmony.village.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g8B3Xo9R022134; Tue, 10 Sep 2002 21:33:50 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 21:33:42 -0600 (MDT) Message-Id: <20020910.213342.115907375.imp@bsdimp.com> To: ikob@koganei.wide.ad.jp Cc: simokawa@sat.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp, julian@elischer.org, ikob@FreeBSD.ORG, firewire@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: hello lurkers.. From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <7B9732CC-C52E-11D6-A23E-0030657D3460@koganei.wide.ad.jp> References: <7B9732CC-C52E-11D6-A23E-0030657D3460@koganei.wide.ad.jp> X-Mailer: Mew version 2.1 on Emacs 21.2 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-firewire@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG In message: <7B9732CC-C52E-11D6-A23E-0030657D3460@koganei.wide.ad.jp> Katsushi Kobayashi writes: : By the efforts of Shimokawa-san, the SBP-II function has enough : quality to publish. I believe now is a time to commit -current, since : a lot of people expect it. That's my belief as well after having looked at it. : We have to get a new sub directory as sys/dev/firewire before : committing. : : Should we ask arch@freebsd whether it is appropriate ? No. I think that sys/dev/firewire fits well within the current structure that you should just go ahead. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-firewire" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-firewire Thu Sep 12 21:46:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F1E7D37B400 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:46:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from volatile.chemikals.org (cae57-176-076.sc.rr.com [66.57.176.76]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5211443E42 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 21:46:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from volatile.chemikals.org (morganw@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volatile.chemikals.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8D4kcQU024411 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 00:46:38 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from localhost (morganw@localhost) by volatile.chemikals.org (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id g8D4kcwj024408 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 00:46:38 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: volatile.chemikals.org: morganw owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 13 Sep 2002 00:46:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Wesley Morgan To: firewire@freebsd.org Subject: panics, ipod Message-ID: <20020913004600.B24393-100000@volatile.chemikals.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-ID: <20020913004600.H24393@volatile.chemikals.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-firewire@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Trying to mount my iPod panics my kernel quite reliably. For some reason I'm not getting any crash dumps from it, and the instruction pointer doesnt give me anything useful... I'm pretty certain it's in the module :P dmesg is attached... Firewire card is a Western Digital WDAD003-RNW cardbus card. System is a very recent -current. I figure if theres talk about committing it its time to start beating it up :) I'm game for trying anything and everything to fix this puppy! -- _ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ___ Wesley N Morgan _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ morganw@chemikals.org _ __ | _ \._ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power To Serve _ |___/___/___/ Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-firewire" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-firewire Fri Sep 13 11:22: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79A0237B400 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 11:21:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ncsmtp03.ogw.rr.com (ncsmtp03.ogw.rr.com [24.93.67.84]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD95E43E7B for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 11:21:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from mail7.sc.rr.com (fe7 [24.93.67.54]) by ncsmtp03.southeast.rr.com (8.12.5/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g8CMqaoG009874 for ; Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:52:39 -0400 (EDT) Received: from cae57-176-076.sc.rr.com ([66.57.176.76]) by mail7.sc.rr.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:52:37 -0400 Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 18:52:38 -0400 (EDT) From: Wesley Morgan To: firewire@freebsd.org Subject: panics, ipod Message-ID: <20020912182015.J22383-200000@volatile.chemikals.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY="0-1717001444-1031871158=:22383" Sender: owner-freebsd-firewire@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This message is in MIME format. The first part should be readable text, while the remaining parts are likely unreadable without MIME-aware tools. Send mail to mime@docserver.cac.washington.edu for more info. --0-1717001444-1031871158=:22383 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Trying to mount my iPod panics my kernel quite reliably. For some reason I'm not getting any crash dumps from it, and the instruction pointer doesnt give me anything useful... I'm pretty certain it's in the module :P dmesg is attached... Firewire card is a Western Digital WDAD003-RNW cardbus card. I figure if theres talk about committing it its time to start beating it up :) I'm game for trying anything and everything to fix this puppy! -- _ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ___ Wesley N Morgan _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ morganw@chemikals.org _ __ | _ \._ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power To Serve _ |___/___/___/ Hi! I'm a .signature virus! 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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 10:47:00 +0900 Subject: Re: panics, ipod Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v543) Cc: firewire@FreeBSD.ORG To: Wesley Morgan From: Katsushi Kobayashi In-Reply-To: <20020912182015.J22383-200000@volatile.chemikals.org> Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.543) Sender: owner-freebsd-firewire@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If possible, try to load kernel module manually after boot completion. By your dmesg log, BUS reset process is repeated. I guess the situation will happen with the instablity of low layer of firewire system. analog (cable system is failed) or some Bus timing issue. My iPod have worked well on SONY VAIO PCG-R505R/GK. This kind of feed back is welcome, although I cannot respond every thing. Thanks, On 2002.Sep.13, at 07:52 AM, Wesley Morgan wrote: > Trying to mount my iPod panics my kernel quite reliably. For some > reason > I'm not getting any crash dumps from it, and the instruction pointer > doesnt give me anything useful... I'm pretty certain it's in the > module :P > > dmesg is attached... Firewire card is a Western Digital WDAD003-RNW > cardbus card. > > I figure if theres talk about committing it its time to start beating > it > up :) > > I'm game for trying anything and everything to fix this puppy! > > > -- > _ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ___ > Wesley N Morgan _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ > morganw@chemikals.org _ __ | _ \._ \ |) | > FreeBSD: The Power To Serve _ |___/___/___/ > Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me > spread! > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-firewire" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-firewire Fri Sep 13 18:47:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6536A37B400 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 18:47:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ns.koganei.wide.ad.jp (koganei.wide.ad.jp [202.249.37.254]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C074543E6A for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 18:47:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ikob@koganei.wide.ad.jp) Received: from Katsushi-Kobayashis-Computer.local. 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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 10:47:00 +0900 Subject: Re: panics, ipod Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v543) Cc: firewire@FreeBSD.ORG To: Wesley Morgan From: Katsushi Kobayashi In-Reply-To: <20020912182015.J22383-200000@volatile.chemikals.org> Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.543) Sender: owner-freebsd-firewire@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If possible, try to load kernel module manually after boot completion. By your dmesg log, BUS reset process is repeated. I guess the situation will happen with the instablity of low layer of firewire system. analog (cable system is failed) or some Bus timing issue. My iPod have worked well on SONY VAIO PCG-R505R/GK. This kind of feed back is welcome, although I cannot respond every thing. Thanks, On 2002.Sep.13, at 07:52 AM, Wesley Morgan wrote: > Trying to mount my iPod panics my kernel quite reliably. For some > reason > I'm not getting any crash dumps from it, and the instruction pointer > doesnt give me anything useful... I'm pretty certain it's in the > module :P > > dmesg is attached... Firewire card is a Western Digital WDAD003-RNW > cardbus card. > > I figure if theres talk about committing it its time to start beating > it > up :) > > I'm game for trying anything and everything to fix this puppy! > > > -- > _ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ___ > Wesley N Morgan _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ > morganw@chemikals.org _ __ | _ \._ \ |) | > FreeBSD: The Power To Serve _ |___/___/___/ > Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me > spread! > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-firewire" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-firewire Sat Sep 14 14:26:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-firewire@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97DDA37B400 for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 14:26:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from volatile.chemikals.org (cae57-176-076.sc.rr.com [66.57.176.76]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA08243E4A for ; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 14:26:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from volatile.chemikals.org (morganw@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by volatile.chemikals.org (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g8ELQGQU073239; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 17:26:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from morganw@chemikals.org) Received: from localhost (morganw@localhost) by volatile.chemikals.org (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) with ESMTP id g8ELQGIw073236; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 17:26:16 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: volatile.chemikals.org: morganw owned process doing -bs Date: Sat, 14 Sep 2002 17:26:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Wesley Morgan To: Katsushi Kobayashi Cc: firewire@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: panics, ipod In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020914172548.I73182-100000@volatile.chemikals.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-firewire@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Unfortunately I see the same problem. I wish I had another system to test this on, or another firewire device to test, but I don't. On Sat, 14 Sep 2002, Katsushi Kobayashi wrote: > If possible, try to load kernel module manually after boot completion. > > By your dmesg log, BUS reset process is repeated. I guess the situation > will happen with the instablity of low layer of firewire system. analog > (cable system is failed) or some Bus timing issue. > > My iPod have worked well on SONY VAIO PCG-R505R/GK. > > This kind of feed back is welcome, although I cannot respond every > thing. > > Thanks, > > On 2002.Sep.13, at 07:52 AM, Wesley Morgan wrote: > > > Trying to mount my iPod panics my kernel quite reliably. For some > > reason > > I'm not getting any crash dumps from it, and the instruction pointer > > doesnt give me anything useful... I'm pretty certain it's in the > > module :P > > > > dmesg is attached... Firewire card is a Western Digital WDAD003-RNW > > cardbus card. > > > > I figure if theres talk about committing it its time to start beating > > it > > up :) > > > > I'm game for trying anything and everything to fix this puppy! > > > > > > -- > > _ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ___ > > Wesley N Morgan _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ > > morganw@chemikals.org _ __ | _ \._ \ |) | > > FreeBSD: The Power To Serve _ |___/___/___/ > > Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me > > spread! > > > -- _ __ ___ ____ ___ ___ ___ Wesley N Morgan _ __ ___ | _ ) __| \ morganw@chemikals.org _ __ | _ \._ \ |) | FreeBSD: The Power To Serve _ |___/___/___/ Hi! I'm a .signature virus! Copy me into your ~/.signature to help me spread! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-firewire" in the body of the message