From owner-freebsd-hardware Sun Jul 28 14:24:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D87B37B400 for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 14:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from email04.aon.at (WARSL402PIP5.highway.telekom.at [195.3.96.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C23CE43E4A for ; Sun, 28 Jul 2002 14:24:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sperber@gmx.at) Received: (qmail 164442 invoked from network); 28 Jul 2002 21:24:04 -0000 Received: from l0820p23.dipool.highway.telekom.at (HELO oh.daemon.sh) ([62.46.166.119]) (envelope-sender ) by qmail5rs.highway.telekom.at (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 28 Jul 2002 21:24:04 -0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Sperber To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: DIN - Creative Date: Sun, 28 Jul 2002 23:23:01 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200207282323.01758.sperber@gmx.at> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, has someone an idea whether there will be a support for the Digital DIN = of=20 Creative soundcards? Sperber To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jul 30 6:27:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C2EA637B400 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 06:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cerebellum.za.net (cerebellum.za.net [196.34.172.103]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 482C943E6A for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 06:27:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ian@cerebellum.za.net) Received: from bert (vic-dial-196-30-239-63.mweb.co.za [196.30.239.63]) by cerebellum.za.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id g6UDSeUS006293 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:28:40 GMT (envelope-from ian@cerebellum.za.net) From: "Ian Barnes" To: Subject: Sysinstall Problem Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 15:27:21 +0200 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am trying to install 4.5 on a 4gig hdd. I boot up using the CD, all goes well, i get to the sysinstall main menu, and i carry on, i create partitions, 4 of them, one for /, one for /var, one for /usr/home, and one for swap (in that order). I then write the information, which all goes well. The problem comes in when i try and write the label information. I set it up as above. The error i get is the one below: Unable to swap to /dev/ad0s4b: Device not configured I push enter, to get to the next error Unable to make new root filesystem on /dev/ad0s1a Command returned status 1 In the debug screen, i get : DEBUG: Scanning disk ad0 for root filesystem DEBUG: Scanning disk ad0 for swap partitions newfs: /dev/ad0s1a: 'a' partition is unavailable The hdd is fine, because just before i was gonna change it to bsd, i was using it in doze ... I tried changing drives just to make sure, but still nothing. I even tried to install 4.3, i thought maybee the code for sysinstall was buggy. This makes no sence, as the other drive i tried has bsd on it before i got a bigger one ... so it did work. Any help would be great Thanks Ian ------------------------- BOFH - Mom's Pharmacies Email - ian@cerebellum.za.net ------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Tue Jul 30 10: 8:36 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 986C137B400 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pemaquid.safeport.com (pemaquid.safeport.com [204.156.12.58]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00E843E31 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 10:08:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chris@pemaquid.safeport.com) Received: from pemaquid.safeport.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pemaquid.safeport.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6UH8VGf000391 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:08:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from chris@pemaquid.safeport.com) Received: from localhost (chris@localhost) by pemaquid.safeport.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id g6UH8VE8000388 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:08:31 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:08:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Denault To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: is SIIG SCSI PCI adapter supported in freebsd? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have a SIIG AP-40 scsi pci adapter, and i was wondering if it is supported by freebsd. If it is, does anyone have one set up or know what I need to put in the kernel to turn on support for it? Thanks in advance for any help. -Chris Denault To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 31 3:16:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A94F37B400; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 03:16:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mercury.ukc.ac.uk (mercury.ukc.ac.uk [129.12.21.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 650AC43E6E; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 03:16:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from A.Simon@ukc.ac.uk) Received: from myrtle.ukc.ac.uk ([129.12.3.176] ident=root) by mercury.ukc.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #4) id 17ZqVS-0002QN-00; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:15:02 +0100 Received: from as49 by myrtle.ukc.ac.uk with local (Exim 3.36 #1) id 17ZqVS-0007bL-00; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:15:02 +0100 Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:15:02 +0100 From: Axel Simon To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Harddisk damage by driver? Message-ID: <20020731101502.GE17211@myrtle.ukc.ac.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i X-UKC-Mail-System: No virus detected Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I am very fed up with this rotten computer which seems to break all the harddiscs I put in. The story: The computer is based on an Intel Desktop D815EEA2/D815EPEA2 motherboard. - After five month, the built-in Fujitsu 40 GB UDMA100 drive one day started to make some very loud, repetetive clicking sounds for approximately 3 seconds and was then unresponsive. After some attempts, the harddisc came up again and booted. - The replacement harddrive of the same brand and size did some clicking noises here and then and stalled as well after only three days. I complained louder and got a new Western Digital 38166MB , UDMA100, a new motherboard and a new cable. - Shortly after that, my second harddrive on the secondary channel 78167MB , DMA33 occasionally made some clicking noises. - It stalled for the first time complitely after a large data transmisson and I decided to ask Maxtor for a replacement. I got a replacement harddrive and replaced the 15cm UDMA100 cable with a 1m UDMA66 cable (so it sais) and attached the harddisk. Funnily, not my old harddrive refuses to work, but my new on exhibits hard read errors, is resetted, removed from configuration and all that. Two possibilities: - This is just unlucky incidence and I need to get a propper UDMA100 cable which is not 1m long. - The FreeBSD drive does not work propperly on this type of motherboard. Should I get an external UDMA controller? I need some help here. Thanks a lot, Axel. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 31 7:11: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BE1B437B400 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:10:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 3jane.math.ualberta.ca (3jane.math.ualberta.ca [129.128.206.44]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2335C43E5E for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:10:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bvowk@3jane.math.ualberta.ca) Received: from 3jane.math.ualberta.ca (localhost.math.ualberta.ca [127.0.0.1]) by 3jane.math.ualberta.ca (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g6VEAS9o017635; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:10:28 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from bvowk@3jane.math.ualberta.ca) Received: from localhost (bvowk@localhost) by 3jane.math.ualberta.ca (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id g6VEARmH017632; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:10:27 -0600 (MDT) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:10:27 -0600 (MDT) From: Barkley Vowk To: Axel Simon Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Harddisk damage by driver? In-Reply-To: <20020731101502.GE17211@myrtle.ukc.ac.uk> Message-ID: <20020731080716.D16870-100000@3jane.math.ualberta.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've had the same problem before, I was using an IDE raid board, and found that the best approach is to order 20 of the shortest (that fit), highest quality cables you can afford and then try them until you find one that works. (granted, I didnt have disk failures, I just had odd read errors and resets, but you asked about cable problems). One thing to remember is to never crease or fold the cables, keep them as straight and uncrinkled as possible. I know that sounds like a load of crap, but if your even near my office I can demonstrate for you. ----------------------------------------------------------- Barkley C. Vowk -- Systems Analyst -- University of Alberta Math Sciences Department - Barkley.Vowk@math.ualberta.ca Office: CAB642A, 780-492-4064 Opinions expressed are the responsibility of the author and may not reflect the opinions of others or reality. On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Axel Simon wrote: > Hi, > > I am very fed up with this rotten computer which seems to break all the > harddiscs I put in. The story: > > The computer is based on an Intel Desktop D815EEA2/D815EPEA2 motherboard. > > - After five month, the built-in Fujitsu 40 GB UDMA100 drive one day > started to make some very loud, repetetive clicking sounds for > approximately 3 seconds and was then unresponsive. After some attempts, > the harddisc came up again and booted. > > - The replacement harddrive of the same brand and size did some clicking > noises here and then and stalled as well after only three days. I > complained louder and got a new Western Digital 38166MB WD400BB-53CAA0>, UDMA100, a new motherboard and a new cable. > > - Shortly after that, my second harddrive on the secondary channel 78167MB > , DMA33 occasionally made some clicking noises. > > - It stalled for the first time complitely after a large data transmisson > and I decided to ask Maxtor for a replacement. I got a replacement > harddrive and replaced the 15cm UDMA100 cable with a 1m UDMA66 cable (so > it sais) and attached the harddisk. Funnily, not my old harddrive refuses > to work, but my new on exhibits hard read errors, is resetted, removed > from configuration and all that. > > Two possibilities: > > - This is just unlucky incidence and I need to get a propper UDMA100 cable > which is not 1m long. > > - The FreeBSD drive does not work propperly on this type of motherboard. > Should I get an external UDMA controller? > > I need some help here. > > Thanks a lot, > > Axel. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 31 7:45:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745DC37B4A9 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:45:37 -0700 (PDT) Received: from msgbas2.cos.agilent.com (msgbas2x.cos.agilent.com [192.25.240.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F36143E4A for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 07:45:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from igor_dorovskoy@agilent.com) Received: from msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (msgrel1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.77]) by msgbas2.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EF8E207D; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:45:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from axcsbh1.cos.agilent.com (axcsbh1.cos.agilent.com [130.29.152.143]) by msgrel1.cos.agilent.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 26568D5; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:45:33 -0600 (MDT) Received: from 130.29.152.143 by axcsbh1.cos.agilent.com (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:45:32 -0600 Received: by axcsbh1.cos.agilent.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id <355M6TVK>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:45:32 -0600 Message-ID: <0D9185CE635BD511ACA50090277A6FCF0388097E@axcs18.cos.agilent.com> From: "DOROVSKOY,IGOR (A-Portsmouth,ex1)" To: 'Barkley Vowk' , Axel Simon Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: RE: Harddisk damage by driver? Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:45:29 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a very good point. In my practice in many cases the bad IDE cable may cause a lot of troubles or hard identify problems even some very strange like successfully ftped files are different (!) - no any errors, warnings, nothing. I've ended up with rounded cables and do advise to replace flats as soon as someone complains about "weird thing". Here are cheap and good: http://www.svcompucycle.com/ata133.html Thanks, Igor -----Original Message----- From: Barkley Vowk [mailto:bvowk@3jane.math.ualberta.ca] Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 10:10 AM To: Axel Simon Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Harddisk damage by driver? I've had the same problem before, I was using an IDE raid board, and found that the best approach is to order 20 of the shortest (that fit), highest quality cables you can afford and then try them until you find one that works. (granted, I didnt have disk failures, I just had odd read errors and resets, but you asked about cable problems). One thing to remember is to never crease or fold the cables, keep them as straight and uncrinkled as possible. I know that sounds like a load of crap, but if your even near my office I can demonstrate for you. ----------------------------------------------------------- Barkley C. Vowk -- Systems Analyst -- University of Alberta Math Sciences Department - Barkley.Vowk@math.ualberta.ca Office: CAB642A, 780-492-4064 Opinions expressed are the responsibility of the author and may not reflect the opinions of others or reality. On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Axel Simon wrote: > Hi, > > I am very fed up with this rotten computer which seems to break all the > harddiscs I put in. The story: > > The computer is based on an Intel Desktop D815EEA2/D815EPEA2 motherboard. > > - After five month, the built-in Fujitsu 40 GB UDMA100 drive one day > started to make some very loud, repetetive clicking sounds for > approximately 3 seconds and was then unresponsive. After some attempts, > the harddisc came up again and booted. > > - The replacement harddrive of the same brand and size did some clicking > noises here and then and stalled as well after only three days. I > complained louder and got a new Western Digital 38166MB WD400BB-53CAA0>, UDMA100, a new motherboard and a new cable. > > - Shortly after that, my second harddrive on the secondary channel 78167MB > , DMA33 occasionally made some clicking noises. > > - It stalled for the first time complitely after a large data transmisson > and I decided to ask Maxtor for a replacement. I got a replacement > harddrive and replaced the 15cm UDMA100 cable with a 1m UDMA66 cable (so > it sais) and attached the harddisk. Funnily, not my old harddrive refuses > to work, but my new on exhibits hard read errors, is resetted, removed > from configuration and all that. > > Two possibilities: > > - This is just unlucky incidence and I need to get a propper UDMA100 cable > which is not 1m long. > > - The FreeBSD drive does not work propperly on this type of motherboard. > Should I get an external UDMA controller? > > I need some help here. > > Thanks a lot, > > Axel. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 31 8:27:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E683C37B400; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:27:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from devonshire.cnchost.com (devonshire.concentric.net [207.155.248.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 651DF43E67; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:27:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bakul@bitblocks.com) Received: from bitblocks.com (adsl-209-204-185-216.sonic.net [209.204.185.216]) by devonshire.cnchost.com id LAA04565; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:27:06 -0400 (EDT) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay 1.14] Message-ID: <200207311527.LAA04565@devonshire.cnchost.com> To: Axel Simon Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Harddisk damage by driver? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:15:02 BST." <20020731101502.GE17211@myrtle.ukc.ac.uk> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:27:05 -0700 From: Bakul Shah Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The fack that all the drives die makes me think may be your puter is not properly ventilated and the hard disks get very hot. You may have had very bad luck with all the drives but that is not very likely. A bad cable would give you read/write errors but it won't make your disk make loud repetitive clicking noises! A FreeBSD driver can not be at fault either with modern IDE or SCSI drives. See if the disks get very hot and if so, see if keeping the box open and pointing a big fan at the disks make the errors go away. If the heat is a problem, you can do a number of things to keep good air flow around disks. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 31 8:42:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4264B37B400; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:42:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dns1.vizion2000.net (dns1.vizion2000.net [64.58.171.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CD19743E72; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:42:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vizion@ixpres.com) Received: from vizion (vizion.vizion2000.net [64.58.171.92]) by dns1.vizion2000.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g6VFiwN97167; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:44:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from vizion@ixpres.com) Message-ID: <004c01c238a8$7e8d0ef0$5cab3a40@vizion2000.net> From: "vizion communication" To: "Axel Simon" , "Bakul Shah" Cc: , References: <200207311527.LAA04565@devonshire.cnchost.com> Subject: Re: Harddisk damage by driver? Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 08:39:04 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I would agree the problem is likely to be electrical/mechanical and the most likely cause is overheating. Your experience with the drive that came up after some time does point to overheating. However you might want to rule out a mal-functioning power supply unit which could cause similar symptoms. This is unlikely but possible. David ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bakul Shah" To: "Axel Simon" Cc: ; Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 8:27 AM Subject: Re: Harddisk damage by driver? > The fack that all the drives die makes me think may be your > puter is not properly ventilated and the hard disks get very > hot. You may have had very bad luck with all the drives but > that is not very likely. A bad cable would give you > read/write errors but it won't make your disk make loud > repetitive clicking noises! A FreeBSD driver can not be at > fault either with modern IDE or SCSI drives. > > See if the disks get very hot and if so, see if keeping the > box open and pointing a big fan at the disks make the errors > go away. If the heat is a problem, you can do a number of > things to keep good air flow around disks. > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 31 9:59:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DB4D37B400; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:59:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net [151.164.30.29]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACB7C43E3B; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:59:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from janb@cs.utep.edu) Received: from jan ([216.63.174.214]) by mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.1 (built May 7 2001)) with SMTP id <0H0400F17HVAA5@mta5.rcsntx.swbell.net>; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:59:35 -0500 (CDT) Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:59:01 -0600 From: Jan Beck Subject: Re: Harddisk damage by driver? To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <000c01c238b3$91b0a6d0$0401a8c0@jan> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <200207311527.LAA04565@devonshire.cnchost.com> <004c01c238a8$7e8d0ef0$5cab3a40@vizion2000.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org That brings up a very good question. How many people have had problems due to overheating? I have had the very odd problem of having 2 IDE drives die over the past month, most likely due to overheating, since it gets very hot in my dual athlon system. These drives had very high usage at almost all times. In my file server, however, the hard drives get VERY hot. So much so, that you can't touch them without burning your hands. All the drives in the file server have been running well over a year in those conditions and I haven't had any problems with it. The server load itself is very light, however. I have heard of drives failig due to heat, but never due to usage. But I can guarantee that the 7200 RPM drives in the file server are much hotter than the drives in the workstations were. Does usage have any bearing on drive life? It seems that the cooling is not important as long as the usage load on the drives is fairly low... Or have I just been really lucky? JAn ----- Original Message ----- From: "vizion communication" To: "Axel Simon" ; "Bakul Shah" Cc: ; Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 9:39 AM Subject: Re: Harddisk damage by driver? > I would agree the problem is likely to be > electrical/mechanical and the most likely cause is > overheating. Your experience with the drive that came up > after some time does point to overheating. > > However you might want to rule out a mal-functioning power > supply unit which could cause similar symptoms. This is > unlikely but possible. > > David > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bakul Shah" > To: "Axel Simon" > Cc: ; > > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 8:27 AM > Subject: Re: Harddisk damage by driver? > > > > The fack that all the drives die makes me think may be > your > > puter is not properly ventilated and the hard disks get > very > > hot. You may have had very bad luck with all the drives > but > > that is not very likely. A bad cable would give you > > read/write errors but it won't make your disk make loud > > repetitive clicking noises! A FreeBSD driver can not be > at > > fault either with modern IDE or SCSI drives. > > > > See if the disks get very hot and if so, see if keeping > the > > box open and pointing a big fan at the disks make the > errors > > go away. If the heat is a problem, you can do a number of > > things to keep good air flow around disks. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the > message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 31 11:29:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87C1F37B408; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:29:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jetpac.epcdirect.co.uk (mail.epcdirect.co.uk [195.10.242.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6221B440D3; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 11:24:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd-hw@epcdirect.co.uk) Received: from localhost (localhost.epcdirect.co.uk [127.0.0.1]) by jetpac.epcdirect.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37BD9467A2; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:23:53 +0100 (BST) Received: from lfarr (l-farr.int.epcdirect.co.uk [192.168.6.200]) by jetpac.epcdirect.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id B87D4467E2; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:23:48 +0100 (BST) From: "Lawrence Farr" To: "'Jan Beck'" , , Subject: RE: Harddisk damage by driver? Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 19:23:48 +0100 Message-ID: <002501c238bf$69dceb30$c806a8c0@lfarr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 In-Reply-To: <000c01c238b3$91b0a6d0$0401a8c0@jan> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal X-Virus-Scanned: by EPC-Direct (jetpac.epcdirect.co.uk) Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I certainly have had drives killed by poor ventilation. I went through drive after drive, got fed up, installed decent cooling, and never lost another on that box. Lawrence Farr EPC Direct Limited > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Jan Beck > Sent: 31 July 2002 17:59 > To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: Re: Harddisk damage by driver? > > > That brings up a very good question. How many people have had > problems due > to overheating? > > I have had the very odd problem of having 2 IDE drives die > over the past > month, most likely due to overheating, since it gets very hot > in my dual > athlon system. These drives had very high usage at almost all > times. In my > file server, however, the hard drives get VERY hot. So much > so, that you > can't touch them without burning your hands. All the drives > in the file > server have been running well over a year in those conditions > and I haven't > had any problems with it. The server load itself is very > light, however. > > I have heard of drives failig due to heat, but never due to > usage. But I can > guarantee that the 7200 RPM drives in the file server are > much hotter than > the drives in the workstations were. > > Does usage have any bearing on drive life? It seems that the > cooling is not > important as long as the usage load on the drives is fairly low... > > Or have I just been really lucky? > > JAn > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "vizion communication" > To: "Axel Simon" ; "Bakul Shah" > > Cc: ; > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 9:39 AM > Subject: Re: Harddisk damage by driver? > > > > I would agree the problem is likely to be > > electrical/mechanical and the most likely cause is > > overheating. Your experience with the drive that came up > > after some time does point to overheating. > > > > However you might want to rule out a mal-functioning power > > supply unit which could cause similar symptoms. This is > > unlikely but possible. > > > > David > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Bakul Shah" > > To: "Axel Simon" > > Cc: ; > > > > Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2002 8:27 AM > > Subject: Re: Harddisk damage by driver? > > > > > > > The fack that all the drives die makes me think may be > > your > > > puter is not properly ventilated and the hard disks get > > very > > > hot. You may have had very bad luck with all the drives > > but > > > that is not very likely. A bad cable would give you > > > read/write errors but it won't make your disk make loud > > > repetitive clicking noises! A FreeBSD driver can not be > > at > > > fault either with modern IDE or SCSI drives. > > > > > > See if the disks get very hot and if so, see if keeping > > the > > > box open and pointing a big fan at the disks make the > > errors > > > go away. If the heat is a problem, you can do a number of > > > things to keep good air flow around disks. > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the > > message > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 31 13:22:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5DE737B400; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:22:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from sheffield.cnchost.com (sheffield.concentric.net [207.155.252.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CDE43E31; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:22:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bakul@bitblocks.com) Received: from bitblocks.com (adsl-209-204-185-216.sonic.net [209.204.185.216]) by sheffield.cnchost.com id QAA01618; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 16:22:42 -0400 (EDT) [ConcentricHost SMTP Relay 1.14] Message-ID: <200207312022.QAA01618@sheffield.cnchost.com> To: Jan Beck Cc: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Harddisk damage by driver? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 31 Jul 2002 10:59:01 MDT." <000c01c238b3$91b0a6d0$0401a8c0@jan> Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 13:22:40 -0700 From: Bakul Shah Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > That brings up a very good question. How many people have had problems due > to overheating? Overheating increases the failure rate of drives -- According to IBM, for every degree above recommended levels the rate increases 2 to 3%. You may have been lucky but you can't generalize your experience. Vendors test at a whole bunch of drives under controlled conditions to derive these failure rates. IBM has this to say: Several failure modes within a disk drive are exacerbated by temperature. Thermal tilt of the disk stack and actuator arms can occur very quickly and cause off-track writes, corrupting data on adjacent cylinders. Outgassing of the lubricants in the spindle motor and voice coil motor occurs at high temperatures (experienced over a relatively short 30-60 day time period), which can lead to stiction failures or a possible head crash. Over an extended period of time, the bearings can wear out and cause mechanical failures Conversely you can run your disk cooler than recommended levels and see increased reliability (but don't extrapolate too far!). You can buy disk drive cooling fans. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 31 14:53:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2FF637B400; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:53:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from puma.icir.org (puma.icir.org [192.150.187.73]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E9F43E5E; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:53:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hodson@puma.icir.org) Received: from puma.icir.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by puma.icir.org (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g6VLrmY00636; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:53:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from hodson@puma.icir.org) Message-Id: <200207312153.g6VLrmY00636@puma.icir.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.3 From: Orion Hodson To: freebsd-multimedia@freebsd.org, freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Cc: Randy Bush Subject: Intel D850EMV2L Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 14:53:48 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Randy Bush and I are trying to understand a problem with his Intel D850EMV2L motherboard. Audio on the motherboard should be supported by the ich audio driver (Intel 82801BA - ICH2), but does not work on Randy's box. The problem appears to lie with the mixer. If anybody here owns an Intel D850EMV2L we'd be interested in knowing if sound works for you running FreeBSD-4.4+ / current. Thanks - Orion To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Wed Jul 31 21:41:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35A4237B400 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:41:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from 126.216-123-229-0.interbaun.com (126.216-123-229-0.interbaun.com [216.123.229.126]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D69143E3B for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 21:41:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.zp.ua) Received: from there (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by 126.216-123-229-0.interbaun.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g714fAv23621 for ; Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:41:11 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from soralx@cydem.zp.ua) Message-Id: <200208010441.g714fAv23621@126.216-123-229-0.interbaun.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" From: To: freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Harddisk damage by driver? Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:41:09 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.3.2] References: <200207311527.LAA04565@devonshire.cnchost.com> <004c01c238a8$7e8d0ef0$5cab3a40@vizion2000.net> <000c01c238b3$91b0a6d0$0401a8c0@jan> In-Reply-To: <000c01c238b3$91b0a6d0$0401a8c0@jan> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > athlon system. These drives had very high usage at almost all times. In my > file server, however, the hard drives get VERY hot. So much so, that you > can't touch them without burning your hands. All the drives in the file > server have been running well over a year in those conditions and I haven't > had any problems with it. The server load itself is very light, however. > I have heard of drives failig due to heat, but never due to usage. But I can > guarantee that the 7200 RPM drives in the file server are much hotter than > the drives in the workstations were. > Does usage have any bearing on drive life? It seems that the cooling is not > important as long as the usage load on the drives is fairly low... IMHO, the possibility of failing of the bearing holding the actuator arms is very low, especially comparing to the bearings in the spindle assembly, which isn't high either. As for the friction between the usable surface of discs and heads - it's present when the heads are not parked, and, I guess, they're in this state only when the drive is off or in power-saving state, so drive load almost shouldn't affect its life. Don't have good practical confirmation I have 5 HDs in a small tower case (2 are mounted in 5" slots), one of them, 10Gb FBSD root, was with bad sectors before I put other 4 - all 5 run hot and still work well :) I think, high temperature is not a big problem - just the variations of it are bad for the drives Modern drives allow expansion of the ferromagnetic discs with heat and adjust heads properly 31.07.2002; 22:01:10 [SorAlx] http://cydem.zp.ua/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Aug 1 11:45:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7AE2237B420 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:45:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from loquat.bbn.com (crodrigues.bbn.com [128.89.72.49]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35DA943E42 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 11:45:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crodrigu@bbn.com) Received: (from crodrigu@localhost) by loquat.bbn.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) id g71IjFP14375 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:45:15 -0400 Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:45:15 -0400 From: Craig Rodrigues To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Support for Magma PCI/PCMCIA expansion card? Message-ID: <20020801144515.A14372@bbn.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm not an expert on PCI, but I am wondering, does FreeBSD support PCI to PCI bridging through Cardbus? I am looking at the following CardBus-to-PCI expansion system: http://www.magma.com/pci/pci_1slot.html http://www.magma.com/pci/pci_2slot_main.html This product claims to allow you to use PCI cards via the PCMCIA interface on laptop computers. Would this work under FreeBSD? Thanks. -- Craig Rodrigues Distributed Systems and Logistics, Office 6/304 crodrigu@bbn.com BBN Technologies, a Verizon company (617) 873-4725 Cambridge, MA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Aug 1 13:50: 4 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FF437B400 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:50:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alcanet.com.au (mail2.alcanet.com.au [203.62.196.17]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78D7743E4A for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 13:49:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au) Received: from sydsmtp01.alcatel.com.au (IDENT:root@localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by alcanet.com.au (8.12.4/8.12.4/Alcanet1.3) with ESMTP id g71KnvZN018573 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 06:49:57 +1000 Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au ([139.188.20.247]) by sydsmtp01.alcatel.com.au (Lotus Domino Release 5.0.10) with ESMTP id 2002080206495605:207587 ; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 06:49:56 +1000 Received: from gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g71Knthh015317 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 06:49:55 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au) Received: (from jeremyp@localhost) by gsmx07.alcatel.com.au (8.12.5/8.12.5/Submit) id g71Kntua015316 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 06:49:55 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from peter.jeremy@alcatel.com.au) Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 06:49:55 +1000 From: Peter Jeremy To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: System Management bus support for KT333/VT8233A Message-ID: <20020802064955.K407@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Mime-Version: 1.0 User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on SYDSMTP01/AlcatelAustralia(Release 5.0.10 |March 22, 2002) at 02/08/2002 06:49:56, Serialize by Router on SYDSMTP01/AlcatelAustralia(Release 5.0.10 |March 22, 2002) at 02/08/2002 06:49:57, Serialize complete at 02/08/2002 06:49:57 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've recently acquired a GigaByte GA-7VRXP which uses a KT333/VT8233A combination. Unfortunately, this is not recognized by the current SMB code (/sys/pci/viapm.c). I notice that although the VT8233A has a different PCI chip id (0x31471106) than the (supported) VT8233, the card ID of the 8233A matches the 8233. Does anyone know if the power management registers are the same? Unfortunately, VIA do not appear to publish the technical data for this chipset (though I'd love to be proved wrong here). Peter To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Aug 1 17:14: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 047B137B400 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:14:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mgr5.xmission.com (mgr5.xmission.com [198.60.22.205]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9528043E9E for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 17:14:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leporter@xmission.com) Received: from [198.60.22.200] (helo=mail.xmission.com) by mgr5.xmission.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17aQ4w-0005CQ-00 for hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2002 18:14:02 -0600 Received: from dsl231-050-171.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net ([216.231.50.171] helo=xmission.com) by mail.xmission.com with asmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 17aQ4v-0008GV-00 for hardware@freebsd.org; Thu, 01 Aug 2002 18:14:02 -0600 Message-ID: <3D49CEC9.2070603@xmission.com> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 18:14:01 -0600 From: Jason Porter User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0.0) Gecko/20020723 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: hardware@freebsd.org Subject: M$ Natural Pro Elite? X-Enigmail-Version: 0.49.5.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Is there a keyboard map for XFree86 4.x that allows all of the keys on the keyboard? I'm mostly interested in the Windows and Menu keys, I'l like to map these keys to events in WindowMaker but I'm not having much luck. Please reply to the message as I am not subscribed to the list -- hehe I already get 150+ from questions and another 50+ from stable a day :) Thanks. - -- - -Jason Porter "Real programmers are secure enough to write readable code, which they then self-righteously refuse to explain." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE9Sc7IYV2rputn/eARAu4EAJsE7iAgY0OcRrafhEJdFlMsCv/WaQCfadh+ pc2+UIYQ22aVPihKknV/QQs= =jfxt -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Thu Aug 1 19:59:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B03537B400 for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:59:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail12.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.212]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0C98543E4A for ; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 19:59:50 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: (qmail 16472 invoked from network); 2 Aug 2002 02:59:48 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO server.baldwin.cx) ([216.27.160.63]) (envelope-sender ) by mail12.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with DES-CBC3-SHA encrypted SMTP for ; 2 Aug 2002 02:59:48 -0000 Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (laptop.baldwin.cx [192.168.0.4]) by server.baldwin.cx (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id g722xluR062543; Thu, 1 Aug 2002 22:59:47 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.5.2 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20020802064955.K407@gsmx07.alcatel.com.au> Date: Thu, 01 Aug 2002 22:59:48 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin To: Peter Jeremy Subject: RE: System Management bus support for KT333/VT8233A Cc: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 01-Aug-2002 Peter Jeremy wrote: > I've recently acquired a GigaByte GA-7VRXP which uses a KT333/VT8233A > combination. Unfortunately, this is not recognized by the current > SMB code (/sys/pci/viapm.c). > > I notice that although the VT8233A has a different PCI chip id > (0x31471106) than the (supported) VT8233, the card ID of the 8233A > matches the 8233. Does anyone know if the power management registers > are the same? Unfortunately, VIA do not appear to publish the > technical data for this chipset (though I'd love to be proved wrong > here). You could just try it and see if it works. :) -- John Baldwin <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Fri Aug 2 11:31:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4375937B401 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bsd1.rgptech.com (adsl-64-163-15-235.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net [64.163.15.235]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EFDA43E72 for ; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 11:31:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from root@bsd1.rgptech.com) Received: by bsd1.rgptech.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id OAA40243 for freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org; Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:31:39 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from root) From: Gordon Price Reply-To: root@bsd1.rgptech.com To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Intel 82810 crashes XF86free -configure Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 14:23:42 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.21] Content-Type: text/plain MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <02080214313800.40235@bsd1.rgptech.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi All, I have an "E MACHINE" running 4.6 which has an onboard svga with what appears to be the Intel 82810 chipset. When I try to configure XFree86 the configure attempt hangs completely. I followed the handbook instruction on adding the agp_load = "YES" to the /boot/loader.conf file. I can't even create a default config file because of the crash. Does anybody have a configuration file that might work, or some other info I may have missed??? Thanks, R. Gordon Price To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-hardware Sat Aug 3 13: 2:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6C0737B401 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 13:02:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from search.sparks.net (d-207-5-180-136.gwi.net [207.5.180.136]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CCF743E5E for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 13:02:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmiller@sparks.net) Received: by search.sparks.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id 183CDD984; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 16:00:42 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by search.sparks.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14024D983 for ; Sat, 3 Aug 2002 16:00:42 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 16:00:41 -0400 (EDT) From: David Miller To: freebsd-hardware@freebsd.org Subject: Compaq DL380 question Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Anybody running FreeBSD on a proliant DL380? Does it work with multiple processors? I've seen problems with SMP and compaqs before:( Does the system have the second socket on the motherboard already, or do I have to buy a second CPU from compaq? Thanks, --- David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hardware" in the body of the message