From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Apr 29 7:45:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kpax.icsmx.com (kpax.icsmx.com [200.33.246.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D8C0B37B417 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 07:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mipc.intranet.com.mx ([200.33.246.28]) by kpax.icsmx.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g3TEco583568 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 09:38:50 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jbiquez@icsmx.com) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020429094213.03e82b40@icsmx.com> X-Sender: jbiquez@icsmx.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 09:42:34 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Jorge Biquez Subject: PDF's and advice on fee pls. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all. I have two question for you. Thanks in advance. a) A prospect of client is asking me to develop an application that validate users against a database, after validation they could fill some forms, depending on status , group and data returned by the validation. After they fill the form a PDF has to be created on the fly and sent by email to the client and his/her sale advisor. Any tips on where to start? I mean the PDF part. Tools, language to use? The client don't care the language or platform to use. He can change to whatever gave him the solution. Oh, the PDF is kind of complex as well as the form to fill. b) I have not been working on my own on projects like this for a while. How much would you say this project is worth? How would you charge it? per hours? per project?. The project includes to configure and setup the platform and software chosen for the project. As always thanks in advance for all your help. Jorge Biquez To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Apr 29 8: 3:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from ext-nj2gw-2.online-age.net (ext-nj2gw-2.online-age.net [216.35.73.164]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FE3637B425 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:02:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from int-nj2gw-4.online-age.net (int-nj2gw-4 [3.159.236.68]) by ext-nj2gw-2.online-age.net (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1/990426-RLH) with ESMTP id LAA04517; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:02:47 -0400 (EDT) Received: from crdns.crd.ge.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by int-nj2gw-4.online-age.net (8.9.3+Sun/8.9.1/990426-RLH) with ESMTP id LAA15232; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:02:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from exc01crdge.crd.ge.com (exc01crdge.crd.ge.com [3.1.116.47]) by crdns.crd.ge.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g3TF2jI22947; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:02:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by exc01crdge.crd.ge.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:02:44 -0400 Message-ID: From: "Lapinski, Michael (Research)" To: "'Jorge Biquez'" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: PDF's and advice on fee pls. Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:02:41 -0400 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I know for a fact you can rig up somethign to go from cgi-> latex -> ps/pdf Use the cgi to generate a latex doc and use pdflatex to generate the pdf. User auth can be against a 1 table mysqldb. Possibly even a perl library that will do cgi-> ps/pdf. Developing the initial form might be a pain to do but once you have it all you do is replace different fields. -mtl -------------------------------------------------- Michael Lapinski Computer Scientist GE Corporate Research & Development "I think there is a world market for maybe five computers." - IBM Chairman Thomas Watson, 1943 -----Original Message----- From: Jorge Biquez [mailto:jbiquez@icsmx.com] Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 10:43 AM To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: PDF's and advice on fee pls. Hello all. I have two question for you. Thanks in advance. a) A prospect of client is asking me to develop an application that validate users against a database, after validation they could fill some forms, depending on status , group and data returned by the validation. After they fill the form a PDF has to be created on the fly and sent by email to the client and his/her sale advisor. Any tips on where to start? I mean the PDF part. Tools, language to use? The client don't care the language or platform to use. He can change to whatever gave him the solution. Oh, the PDF is kind of complex as well as the form to fill. b) I have not been working on my own on projects like this for a while. How much would you say this project is worth? How would you charge it? per hours? per project?. The project includes to configure and setup the platform and software chosen for the project. As always thanks in advance for all your help. Jorge Biquez To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Apr 29 8:23:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from exodus.ait.co.za (exodus.ait.co.za [66.8.26.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 686EC37B405 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 08:23:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aragon [66.8.86.210] by exodus.ait.co.za (SMTPD32-4.06) id A404EBEA0134; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 17:23:32 0200 Message-ID: <006001c1ef92$0444b580$01000001@aragon> From: "Aragon Gouveia" To: , "Jorge Biquez" References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020429094213.03e82b40@icsmx.com> Subject: Re: PDF's and advice on fee pls. Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 17:24:54 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Howdy, > a) A prospect of client is asking me to develop an application that > validate users against a database, after validation they could fill some > forms, depending on status , group and data returned by the validation. > After they fill the form a PDF has to be created on the fly and sent by > email to the client and his/her sale advisor. Any tips on where to start? I > mean the PDF part. Tools, language to use? The client don't care the > language or platform to use. He can change to whatever gave him the > solution. Oh, the PDF is kind of complex as well as the form to fill. I've never used these functions, but PHP has some quite nifty looking support for building PDF files using Thomas Merz's PDFlib (http://www.pdflib.com/). More info in the PDF functions manual section at www.php.net. Regards, Aragon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Apr 29 9: 8:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.shorewood-epc.co.uk (mail.shorewood-epc.co.uk [195.10.240.17]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB8537B417 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 09:08:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by mail.shorewood-epc.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id D24B44D824 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 16:08:31 +0000 (GMT) Received: from lfarr (bka.shorewood-epc.co.uk [192.168.15.200]) by mail.shorewood-epc.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E4CF4D839 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 17:08:05 +0100 (BST) From: "Lawrence Farr" To: Subject: RE: PDF's and advice on fee pls. Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 17:08:06 +0100 Message-ID: <001501c1ef98$0cb43a50$c80fa8c0@lfarr> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020429094213.03e82b40@icsmx.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by Shorewood-EPC (mail.shorewood-epc.co.uk) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org We have developed something extremely similar using PHP and PDFlib. Lawrence Farr EPC Direct Limited > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Jorge Biquez > Sent: 29 April 2002 15:43 > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: PDF's and advice on fee pls. > > > Hello all. > > I have two question for you. Thanks in advance. > a) A prospect of client is asking me to develop an application that > validate users against a database, after validation they > could fill some > forms, depending on status , group and data returned by the > validation. > After they fill the form a PDF has to be created on the fly > and sent by > email to the client and his/her sale advisor. Any tips on > where to start? I > mean the PDF part. Tools, language to use? The client don't care the > language or platform to use. He can change to whatever gave him the > solution. Oh, the PDF is kind of complex as well as the form to fill. > > b) I have not been working on my own on projects like this > for a while. How > much would you say this project is worth? How would you > charge it? per > hours? per project?. The project includes to configure and setup the > platform and software chosen for the project. > > As always thanks in advance for all your help. > > Jorge Biquez > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Apr 29 9:56:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web20109.mail.yahoo.com (web20109.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.226.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1056C37B419 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 09:56:48 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <20020429165647.19035.qmail@web20109.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [193.227.212.160] by web20109.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 18:56:47 CEST Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 18:56:47 +0200 (CEST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Fabrizio=20Ravazzini?= Subject: freebsd 4.5 & IPfilter & Bridge To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, does ipf now works with freebsd 4.5 in bridged mode? Thanks bye ______________________________________________________________________ Con Yahoo! vinci viaggi per i Mondiali FIFA 2002 http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://lasfida.yahoo.net/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Apr 29 10:58:24 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from webmail.emre.de (webmail.emre.de [194.8.203.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AB5737B400 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 10:58:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.emre.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g3THwB634538 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 19:58:12 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from info@emre.de) X-Authentication-Warning: webmail.emre.de: www set sender to info@emre.de using -f Received: from 192.168.2.65 ( [192.168.2.65]) as user emre@webmail.emre.de by webmail.emre.de with HTTP; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 19:58:08 +0200 Message-ID: <1020103088.3ccd89b10068c@webmail.emre.de> Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 19:58:09 +0200 From: Emre Bastuz To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PDF's and advice on fee pls. References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020429094213.03e82b40@icsmx.com> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020429094213.03e82b40@icsmx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.0 X-Originating-IP: 192.168.2.65 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Jorge, > a) A prospect of client is asking me to develop an application that > validate users against a database, after validation they could fill some > forms, depending on status , group and data returned by the validation. > After they fill the form a PDF has to be created on the fly and sent by > email to the client and his/her sale advisor. well - the authentication and form stuff pretty much indicates that php + apache + mysql might suit your needs. There are many tutorials and templates out there that can make your life easier. On the other hand, I have never seen a tool written in PHP that does create (complex) PDF´s reliably. I have once tried to use the pdflib myself but to me it seemed far too complicated. As mentioned in an earlier mail on this list, the PDF creation should probably be done by some tools involving LaTex. > b) I have not been working on my own on projects like this for a while. How > much would you say this project is worth? How would you charge it? per > hours? per project?. I´d charge it 'per project'. In the contract with the customer you should define exactly when the project is to be considered finished. I guess thats the most important part in the project, or you might end up supporting the 'project' forever :) I guess it would also be a good idea defining some time based fees for maintenance issues that sure will follow. This way both, you _and_ your customer will know what you´re up to. > The project includes to configure and setup the > platform and software chosen for the project. That´s another reason for chosing php, apache, mysql. You usually get excellent support for these systems and they´re free. Good luck. Emre -- Emre Bastuz info@emre.de http://www.emre.de UIN: 561260 PGP Key ID: 0xAFAC77FD ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Apr 29 11:50:21 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from jgj.org.uk (public1-leed1-4-cust166.leed.broadband.ntl.com [80.0.0.166]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D252337B419 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:50:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 44445 invoked from network); 29 Apr 2002 18:50:47 -0000 Received: from sean.jgj.org.uk (192.168.243.89) by rufus.jgj.org.uk with SMTP; 29 Apr 2002 18:50:47 -0000 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 19:50:08 +0100 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v481) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Subject: FreeBSD RAID From: James Jeffrey To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.481) Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I was wanting to use FreeBSD in a couple of new server systems, normally it would be my default choice, but I want to use RAID in these systems and they are being built on a budget. I was hoping to use software RAID, but I don't think that vinum or CCD are up to the task. There was a project a while back to port the Raidframe driver across from NetBSD. Anyone know what happened to it, what the status is? Any other suggestions? If no-one has any then I will have to use NetBSD, but NetBSD dosen't offer SMP... I may even end up using Linux. thanks, James To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Apr 29 14:31:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from priv-edtnes15-hme0.telusplanet.net (defout.telus.net [199.185.220.240]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BE9637B405 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 14:31:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from FRED ([142.173.43.70]) by priv-edtnes15-hme0.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.01 201-253-122-122-101-20011014) with ESMTP id <20020429213139.DATO5496.priv-edtnes15-hme0.telusplanet.net@FRED> for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 15:31:39 -0600 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 14:45:54 -0700 From: Sean Ellis X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.51) Reply-To: Sean Ellis Organization: yes X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <188166158023.20020429144554@telus.net> To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: apache fp virtual hosts suexec(?) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I writing because of a problem that I'm having using apache virtual hosts and frontpage 2000. To allow different ownership of the different sites I added suexec support to apache_1.3.20, made User and Group declarations in the virtual host blocks, and chown'd the web directories. Everything seemed to be working, but today I have some complaints and errors in the log files. (Possibly due to fpexe being located outside of the defined suexec directory?). Has anyone run into this? http error_log: Premature end of script headers: /usr/local/frontpage/version5.0/apache-fp/_vti_bin/fpexe suexec log: error: command not in docroot (/usr/local/frontpage/version5.0/apache-fp/_vti_bin/fpexe) I would like to find a workaround for this. The goal is have the different sites accessible to the different ftp users while retaining their frontpage capabilities. Perhaps this could be done through a group for the the ftp clients? Any suggestions welcome, -- Thanks, Sean mailto:sellis@telus.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Apr 29 16:16:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from sianna.shopkeeper.de (sianna.shopkeeper.de [217.17.196.5]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EEFB37B404 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 16:16:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from avalon.dobu.local (p50887D28.dip.t-dialin.net [80.136.125.40]) (authenticated) by sianna.shopkeeper.de (8.11.6/8.11.4) with ESMTP id g3TNGYF29952 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher EDH-RSA-DES-CBC3-SHA (168 bits) verified NO); Tue, 30 Apr 2002 01:16:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sklauder@ibd-web.de) Received: (from sklauder@localhost) by avalon.dobu.local (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g3TNHX001123; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 01:17:33 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from sklauder) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 01:17:33 +0200 From: Sascha Klauder To: James Jeffrey Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD RAID Message-ID: <20020430011733.A1081@ibd-web.de> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from james@jgj.org.uk on Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 07:50:08PM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 07:50:08PM +0100, James Jeffrey wrote: > I was hoping to use software RAID, but I don't think that vinum or CCD > are up to the task. There was a project a while back to port the > Raidframe driver across from NetBSD. Anyone know what happened to it, > what the status is? Any other suggestions? The RAIDframe driver performs pretty well but unfortunately has some problems on recent -STABLEs. I had it running on two systems for evalution purposes for quite some time but I ran into some serious RAIDframe-related panics on 4.5-STABLE and went for vinum. Thats a shame because I like the concept, it is fairly well docu- mented and the configuration is pretty straightforward. AFAIK Scott Long works at Adaptec and he don't have much time to work on the RAIDframe port. > If no-one has any then I will have to use NetBSD, but NetBSD dosen't > offer SMP... I may even end up using Linux. Whats the problem with vinum? Cheers, -sascha To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Apr 29 18:11:51 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rack.purplecat.net (rack.purplecat.net [208.133.44.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37B4537B42F for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 18:11:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 61344 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2002 01:11:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO insp) (208.150.26.35) by rack.purplecat.net with SMTP; 30 Apr 2002 01:11:25 -0000 From: "Peter Brezny" To: Subject: Help host resolution mixup. Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 21:11:43 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi everyone. I think I've got a host resolution mixup. Here are the symptoms. Domains registered with network solutions still show the old ip address for ns1 and ns2.purplecat.net even though the forward lookup for those names changed more than 3 months ago. Domains registered at other registrars don't seem to have this problem. I'm in the process of moving my primary name servers from one isp to another, and I _do_ have some issues with my reverse resolution: new isp ns1.purplecat.net --> 208.133.44.46 rack.purplecat.net --> 208.133.44.46 208.133.44.46 --> rack.purplecat.net old isp mail.purplecat.net --> 209.16.228.148 209.16.228.148 --> ns1.purplecat.net I was under the impression that i could 'get away' with such a configuration, and that dns would continue to work even if the reverse lookup of a name server did not match. Is this not the case? TIA, Peter Brezny purplecat.net test# dig @G.GTLD-SERVERS.net ns1.purplecat.net ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> @G.GTLD-SERVERS.net ns1.purplecat.net ; (1 server found) ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; QUERY SECTION: ;; ns1.purplecat.net, type = A, class = IN ;; ANSWER SECTION: ns1.purplecat.net. 2D IN A 208.133.44.46 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: purplecat.net. 2D IN NS ns1.purplecat.net. purplecat.net. 2D IN NS NS2.purplecat.net. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns1.purplecat.net. 2D IN A 208.133.44.46 NS2.purplecat.net. 2D IN A 208.133.44.47 ;; Total query time: 74 msec ;; FROM: test.skyrunner.net to SERVER: G.GTLD-SERVERS.net 192.42.93.30 ;; WHEN: Mon Apr 29 20:44:16 2002 ;; MSG SIZE sent: 35 rcvd: 115 Peter Brezny purplecat.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Apr 29 21:50:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from hex.databits.net (hex.csh.rit.edu [129.21.60.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 05C6237B419 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 21:49:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 10208 invoked by uid 1001); 29 Apr 2002 15:14:05 -0000 Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 11:14:05 -0400 From: Pete Fritchman To: Jorge Biquez Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: PDF's and advice on fee pls. Message-ID: <20020429111405.A10013@databits.net> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020429094213.03e82b40@icsmx.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020429094213.03e82b40@icsmx.com>; from jbiquez@icsmx.com on Mon, Apr 29, 2002 at 09:42:34AM -0500 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ++ 29/04/02 09:42 -0500 - Jorge Biquez: | Hello all. | | I have two question for you. Thanks in advance. | a) A prospect of client is asking me to develop an application that | validate users against a database, after validation they could fill some | forms, depending on status , group and data returned by the validation. | After they fill the form a PDF has to be created on the fly and sent by | email to the client and his/her sale advisor. Any tips on where to start? I | mean the PDF part. Tools, language to use? The client don't care the | language or platform to use. He can change to whatever gave him the | solution. Oh, the PDF is kind of complex as well as the form to fill. You want to use the PDF::Create Perl module. /usr/ports/textproc/p5-PDF-Create --pete -- Pete Fritchman [petef@(databits.net|freebsd.org|csh.rit.edu)] finger petef@databits.net for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Apr 29 21:57: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from 12-234-22-238.client.attbi.com (12-234-90-219.client.attbi.com [12.234.90.219]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04DD937B419 for ; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 21:57:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from master.gorean.org (master.gorean.org [10.0.0.2]) by 12-234-22-238.client.attbi.com (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g3U4uxPp003104; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 21:57:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from DougB@FreeBSD.org) Received: from localhost (doug@localhost) by master.gorean.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id g3U4uxSZ071557; Mon, 29 Apr 2002 21:56:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 21:56:59 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton X-X-Sender: doug@master.gorean.org To: Peter Brezny Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Help host resolution mixup. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020429215530.T71345-100000@master.gorean.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Peter Brezny wrote: > Hi everyone. > > I think I've got a host resolution mixup. Sorry to say, this topic isn't really appropriate for this list. You need to have a nice long talk with your registrar. While you're at it, can you suggest that they supply a port 43 whois server? :) Good luck. -- "We have known freedom's price. We have shown freedom's power. And in this great conflict, ... we will see freedom's victory." - George W. Bush, President of the United States State of the Union, January 28, 2002 Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Apr 30 7:56:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rack.purplecat.net (rack.purplecat.net [208.133.44.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC65637B41B for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:56:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 12302 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2002 14:56:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO micron) (208.150.25.130) by rack.purplecat.net with SMTP; 30 Apr 2002 14:56:31 -0000 From: "Peter Brezny" To: "Doug Barton" , "Peter Brezny" Cc: Subject: RE: Help host resolution mixup. Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:56:34 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 In-Reply-To: <20020429215530.T71345-100000@master.gorean.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Doug, I can't really think of a more appropriate list for this kind of question than the freebsd-isp list, please let me know if there is one, however... From the freebsd mail list description: freebsd-isp Issues for Internet Service Providers using FreeBSD and if this isn't an issue very related to isp's, I don't know what is. I guess the to-the-point question that I have is, is it a requirement to have proper reverse resolution for nameservers? I know that many mail servers will reject mail if it is coming from a system that doesn't have proper forward and reverse resolution. Is this also an issue with name servers? Thanks again for your help. Peter Brezny purplecat.net -----Original Message----- From: Doug Barton [mailto:DougB@FreeBSD.org] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 12:57 AM To: Peter Brezny Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Help host resolution mixup. On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Peter Brezny wrote: > Hi everyone. > > I think I've got a host resolution mixup. Sorry to say, this topic isn't really appropriate for this list. You need to have a nice long talk with your registrar. While you're at it, can you suggest that they supply a port 43 whois server? :) Good luck. -- "We have known freedom's price. We have shown freedom's power. And in this great conflict, ... we will see freedom's victory." - George W. Bush, President of the United States State of the Union, January 28, 2002 Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Apr 30 8:18:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.imach.com (barbwire.iMach.com [206.127.77.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CE0937B432; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 08:18:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.imach.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g3UFICa33012; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:18:13 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from forrestc@imach.com) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:18:12 -0600 (MDT) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: Peter Brezny Cc: Doug Barton , Subject: RE: Help host resolution mixup. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020430091200.X32964-100000@workhorse.imach.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Peter Brezny wrote: > I can't really think of a more appropriate list for this kind of question > than the freebsd-isp list, please let me know if there is one, however... The dns-related newsgroups come to mind, that said... > I guess the to-the-point question that I have is, is it a requirement to > have proper reverse resolution for nameservers? Yes and no. In theory everything should work right. In reality nameservers occasionally get confused about their role in life and stop working. And when this occurs it usually is a problem with the local nameservers. I think Peter's other (implied) guess might be that there is something seriously broken in the forward delegation of your domains, which (if it is the case) should be taken up with the appropriate registrar. If you post the actual domains and what brokenness you are seeing (perhaps one that works vs one that doesn't work) generally someone on here will do a couple of digs and be able to tell you where to look for the cause. Saying "I'm doing something nonstandard, will this break anything?" will probably get you more of the responses you got... I.E. we're not experts at every concievable DNS mangling, try some other list. - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Innovation Machine Ltd. P.O. Box 5749 http://www.imach.com/ Helena, MT 59604 Home of PacketFlux Technogies and BackupDNS.com (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Protect your personal freedoms - visit http://www.lp.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Apr 30 8:57:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rack.purplecat.net (rack.purplecat.net [208.133.44.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C802437B405 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 08:57:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 21356 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2002 15:57:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO micron) (208.150.25.130) by rack.purplecat.net with SMTP; 30 Apr 2002 15:57:33 -0000 From: "Peter Brezny" To: "Forrest W. Christian" , "Peter Brezny" Cc: Subject: RE: Help host resolution mixup. Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 11:57:36 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 In-Reply-To: <20020430091200.X32964-100000@workhorse.imach.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks a lot for the help Forrest. For freebsd isp related problems, I've always had helpful support from this list, I'm glad to see that the positive supportive environment still exists here. Here's an example of the problem I am seeing: Two domains both using ns1 and ns2.purplecat.net as their name servers. domains registered at a registrar _other than_ networksolutions don't list ip addresses related to ns1 and ns2.purplecat.net for example: whois agrnews.org Domain Name: AGRNEWS.ORG Registrar: CORE INTERNET COUNCIL OF REGISTRARS Whois Server: whois.corenic.net Referral URL: http://www.corenic.net Name Server: NS1.PURPLECAT.NET Name Server: NS2.PURPLECAT.NET Updated Date: 24-apr-2002 domains registered at networksolutions.com provide incorrect ip addresses for ns1 and ns2.purplecat.net even thought he forward lookup for these hosts works fine, _and_ modifying the information for barbarafield.org with the correct ip addresses at networksolutions does not fix the problem, even though it claims that the update went through successfully: whois barbarafield.org Domain Name: BARBARAFIELD.ORG Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC. Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com Name Server: NS1.PURPLECAT.NET Name Server: NS2.PURPLECAT.NET Updated Date: 05-nov-2001 ... Domain servers in listed order: NS1.PURPLECAT.NET 209.16.228.148 NS2.PURPLECAT.NET 209.16.228.149 However: dig @a.gtld-servers.net. ns1.purplecat.net ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> @a.gtld-servers.net. ns1.purplecat.net ; (1 server found) ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6 ;; flags: qr rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; QUERY SECTION: ;; ns1.purplecat.net, type = A, class = IN ;; ANSWER SECTION: ns1.purplecat.net. 2D IN A 208.133.44.46 ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: purplecat.net. 2D IN NS ns1.purplecat.net. purplecat.net. 2D IN NS NS2.purplecat.net. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns1.purplecat.net. 2D IN A 208.133.44.46 NS2.purplecat.net. 2D IN A 208.133.44.47 I've sent an e-mail to networksolutions with the same question but have not heard back from them (surprise). Peter Brezny purplecat.net -----Original Message----- From: Forrest W. Christian [mailto:forrestc@imach.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 11:18 AM To: Peter Brezny Cc: Doug Barton; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Help host resolution mixup. On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Peter Brezny wrote: > I can't really think of a more appropriate list for this kind of question > than the freebsd-isp list, please let me know if there is one, however... The dns-related newsgroups come to mind, that said... > I guess the to-the-point question that I have is, is it a requirement to > have proper reverse resolution for nameservers? Yes and no. In theory everything should work right. In reality nameservers occasionally get confused about their role in life and stop working. And when this occurs it usually is a problem with the local nameservers. I think Peter's other (implied) guess might be that there is something seriously broken in the forward delegation of your domains, which (if it is the case) should be taken up with the appropriate registrar. If you post the actual domains and what brokenness you are seeing (perhaps one that works vs one that doesn't work) generally someone on here will do a couple of digs and be able to tell you where to look for the cause. Saying "I'm doing something nonstandard, will this break anything?" will probably get you more of the responses you got... I.E. we're not experts at every concievable DNS mangling, try some other list. - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Innovation Machine Ltd. P.O. Box 5749 http://www.imach.com/ Helena, MT 59604 Home of PacketFlux Technogies and BackupDNS.com (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Protect your personal freedoms - visit http://www.lp.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Apr 30 9:11:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.imach.com (barbwire.iMach.com [206.127.77.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 843DD37B41A for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:11:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.imach.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g3UGBTZ33349; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:11:29 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from forrestc@imach.com) Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:11:28 -0600 (MDT) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: Peter Brezny Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Help host resolution mixup. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020430100204.B33246-100000@workhorse.imach.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org EWWWW this is going to get messy. You *do* need to have a long talk with your registrar(s). > domains registered at networksolutions.com provide incorrect ip addresses > for ns1 and ns2.purplecat.net even thought he forward lookup for these hosts > works fine, _and_ modifying the information for barbarafield.org with the > correct ip addresses at networksolutions does not fix the problem, even > though it claims that the update went through successfully: There is a quite simple explanation for this. For some reason the internic whois database still has the old ip addresses for the nameservers. From the looks of things nsol is correctly picking up the nameserver ip addresses from domaindiscover.com (the registrar for purplecat.net) when it creates the CNO files. I would probably start by trying a nameserver change to network solutions on one of these and see if it fixes the problem. Otherwise call network solutions and/or domaindiscover.com and get them to work through the issue. Tell them that there is an inconsitency in a nameserver host record between network solutions and domaindiscover (and the rest of the world). I think the final ball is going to be in nsol's court, but don't quote me on that.... - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Innovation Machine Ltd. P.O. Box 5749 http://www.imach.com/ Helena, MT 59604 Home of PacketFlux Technogies and BackupDNS.com (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Protect your personal freedoms - visit http://www.lp.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Apr 30 9:20:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.day-light.net (day-light.net [64.37.72.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C334737B417 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:20:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from w1 (118-203.bestdsl.net [216.162.118.203]) by mail.day-light.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 1D6503514F; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 11:20:39 -0500 (CDT) Reply-To: From: "John Brooks" To: "'Peter Brezny'" , "'Forrest W. Christian'" Cc: Subject: RE: Help host resolution mixup. Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 11:21:06 -0500 Message-ID: <000801c1f063$08875540$c905010a@daylight.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org just curious... were ns1.purplecat.net and ns2.purplecat.net ever registered as nameserver hosts with networksolutions at some point in the past? note the "Updated Date: 05-nov-2001" in the whois record - do you think they may be holding some old data because they still have you listed as hosts on their system? -- John Brooks john@stlbsd.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Peter Brezny Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 10:58 AM To: Forrest W. Christian; Peter Brezny Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Help host resolution mixup. ... whois agrnews.org Domain Name: AGRNEWS.ORG Registrar: CORE INTERNET COUNCIL OF REGISTRARS Whois Server: whois.corenic.net Referral URL: http://www.corenic.net Name Server: NS1.PURPLECAT.NET Name Server: NS2.PURPLECAT.NET Updated Date: 24-apr-2002 domains registered at networksolutions.com provide incorrect ip addresses for ns1 and ns2.purplecat.net even thought he forward lookup for these hosts works fine, _and_ modifying the information for barbarafield.org with the correct ip addresses at networksolutions does not fix the problem, even though it claims that the update went through successfully: whois barbarafield.org Domain Name: BARBARAFIELD.ORG Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC. Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com Name Server: NS1.PURPLECAT.NET Name Server: NS2.PURPLECAT.NET Updated Date: 05-nov-2001 .. Domain servers in listed order: NS1.PURPLECAT.NET 209.16.228.148 NS2.PURPLECAT.NET 209.16.228.149 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Apr 30 9:29:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rack.purplecat.net (rack.purplecat.net [208.133.44.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4DF4D37B41A for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 25627 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2002 16:29:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO micron) (208.150.25.130) by rack.purplecat.net with SMTP; 30 Apr 2002 16:29:20 -0000 From: "Peter Brezny" To: , "'Peter Brezny'" , "'Forrest W. Christian'" Cc: Subject: RE: Help host resolution mixup. Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 12:29:23 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 In-Reply-To: <000801c1f063$08875540$c905010a@daylight.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks for the help John, Yes, ns1 and ns2.purplecat.net were both listed as hosts with networksolutions, I attempted to modify their host record with netsol, however, when i do, it correctly says that those hosts are no longer with netsol... Seems like a glitch on their end. Peter Brezny purplecat.net -----Original Message----- From: John Brooks [mailto:john@day-light.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 12:21 PM To: 'Peter Brezny'; 'Forrest W. Christian' Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Help host resolution mixup. just curious... were ns1.purplecat.net and ns2.purplecat.net ever registered as nameserver hosts with networksolutions at some point in the past? note the "Updated Date: 05-nov-2001" in the whois record - do you think they may be holding some old data because they still have you listed as hosts on their system? -- John Brooks john@stlbsd.org -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Peter Brezny Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 10:58 AM To: Forrest W. Christian; Peter Brezny Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Help host resolution mixup. ... whois agrnews.org Domain Name: AGRNEWS.ORG Registrar: CORE INTERNET COUNCIL OF REGISTRARS Whois Server: whois.corenic.net Referral URL: http://www.corenic.net Name Server: NS1.PURPLECAT.NET Name Server: NS2.PURPLECAT.NET Updated Date: 24-apr-2002 domains registered at networksolutions.com provide incorrect ip addresses for ns1 and ns2.purplecat.net even thought he forward lookup for these hosts works fine, _and_ modifying the information for barbarafield.org with the correct ip addresses at networksolutions does not fix the problem, even though it claims that the update went through successfully: whois barbarafield.org Domain Name: BARBARAFIELD.ORG Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC. Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com Name Server: NS1.PURPLECAT.NET Name Server: NS2.PURPLECAT.NET Updated Date: 05-nov-2001 .. Domain servers in listed order: NS1.PURPLECAT.NET 209.16.228.148 NS2.PURPLECAT.NET 209.16.228.149 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Apr 30 9:40:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.speakeasy.net (mail14.speakeasy.net [216.254.0.214]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 878E137B400 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:40:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 11938 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2002 16:40:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.5?) ([64.81.163.89]) (envelope-sender ) by mail14.speakeasy.net (qmail-ldap-1.03) with SMTP for ; 30 Apr 2002 16:40:29 -0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: (Unverified) Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:40:28 -0700 To: "Peter Brezny" From: Andrew Matheson Subject: RE: Help host resolution mixup. Cc: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Peter, I had a similar problem with one of my domains a number of months ago. It turned out that network solutions was providing old information about my name servers that they retrieved from a global database. I hadn't updated the IP addresses associated with the name servers with the new ISP since it wasn't on their domain transfer form--I assumed they would do a forward lookup to resolve the names. I was wrong. The new ISP defaulted to using the old network solutions data rather than a forward lookup of the names I entered. It took quite some time and a long call to network solutions to figure out that this is what was going on. You might double check with your new registrar and see if there's a form you haven't filled out yet to set the IP addresses associated with your name servers. Now, if only I could remember the URL to the page that allowed querying of the global name server database... Good Luck, Andrew Matheson >Thanks for the help John, > >Yes, ns1 and ns2.purplecat.net were both listed as hosts with >networksolutions, I attempted to modify their host record with netsol, >however, when i do, it correctly says that those hosts are no longer with >netsol... > >Seems like a glitch on their end. > >Peter Brezny >purplecat.net > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: John Brooks [mailto:john@day-light.com] >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 12:21 PM >To: 'Peter Brezny'; 'Forrest W. Christian' >Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: RE: Help host resolution mixup. > > >just curious... were ns1.purplecat.net and ns2.purplecat.net ever registered >as nameserver hosts with networksolutions at some point in the past? > >note the "Updated Date: 05-nov-2001" in the whois record - do you think they >may be holding some old data because they still have you listed as hosts on >their system? > >-- >John Brooks >john@stlbsd.org > > >-----Original Message----- >From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG >[mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Peter Brezny >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 10:58 AM >To: Forrest W. Christian; Peter Brezny >Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: RE: Help host resolution mixup. > > >... > >whois agrnews.org > Domain Name: AGRNEWS.ORG > Registrar: CORE INTERNET COUNCIL OF REGISTRARS > Whois Server: whois.corenic.net > Referral URL: http://www.corenic.net > Name Server: NS1.PURPLECAT.NET > Name Server: NS2.PURPLECAT.NET > Updated Date: 24-apr-2002 > >domains registered at networksolutions.com provide incorrect ip addresses >for ns1 and ns2.purplecat.net even thought he forward lookup for these hosts >works fine, _and_ modifying the information for barbarafield.org with the >correct ip addresses at networksolutions does not fix the problem, even >though it claims that the update went through successfully: > >whois barbarafield.org > Domain Name: BARBARAFIELD.ORG > Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC. > Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com > Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com > Name Server: NS1.PURPLECAT.NET > Name Server: NS2.PURPLECAT.NET > Updated Date: 05-nov-2001 > >.. > > Domain servers in listed order: > > NS1.PURPLECAT.NET 209.16.228.148 > NS2.PURPLECAT.NET 209.16.228.149 > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message -- ----------------------------------------------------------- Andrew Matheson email: matheson@jamboa.com ----------------------------------------------------------- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Apr 30 9:43:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from encontacto.net (adsl-64-173-182-158.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [64.173.182.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E79437B416 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:43:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 0) by encontacto.net with local; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:43:13 -0700 Received: from 64.173.182.155 ( [64.173.182.155]) as user eculp@encontacto.net@encontacto.net by Mail.EnContacto.Net with HTTP; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:43:13 -0700 Message-ID: <1020184993.3ccec9a14978a@Mail.EnContacto.Net> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:43:13 -0700 From: Edwin Culp To: john@day-light.com Cc: 'Peter Brezny' , "'Forrest W. Christian'" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Help host resolution mixup. References: <000801c1f063$08875540$c905010a@daylight.net> In-Reply-To: <000801c1f063$08875540$c905010a@daylight.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 4.0-cvs X-Originating-IP: 64.173.182.155 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It is my understanding that NetSol/VeriSign has finally started working on the registry server "orphan A records" issue. With thing the way they are with their layoff's, etc. who knows when they will finish. You may be able to access the registry A glue record through the domain management interface with your registrar, http://domaindiscover.com/. This will be seperate from your domain nameserver information. It isn't always easy to find but it should offer you the option of deleting or modifying the ip. You will probably only be able to delete it if there are no dependent domains registered. I hope this is clear, addresses your issue and helps somewhat. ed Quoting John Brooks : | just curious... were ns1.purplecat.net and ns2.purplecat.net ever | registered | as nameserver hosts with networksolutions at some point in the past? | | note the "Updated Date: 05-nov-2001" in the whois record - do you think | they | may be holding some old data because they still have you listed as hosts on | their system? | | -- | John Brooks | john@stlbsd.org | | | -----Original Message----- | From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG | [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Peter Brezny | Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 10:58 AM | To: Forrest W. Christian; Peter Brezny | Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG | Subject: RE: Help host resolution mixup. | | | ... | | whois agrnews.org | Domain Name: AGRNEWS.ORG | Registrar: CORE INTERNET COUNCIL OF REGISTRARS | Whois Server: whois.corenic.net | Referral URL: http://www.corenic.net | Name Server: NS1.PURPLECAT.NET | Name Server: NS2.PURPLECAT.NET | Updated Date: 24-apr-2002 | | domains registered at networksolutions.com provide incorrect ip addresses | for ns1 and ns2.purplecat.net even thought he forward lookup for these | hosts | works fine, _and_ modifying the information for barbarafield.org with the | correct ip addresses at networksolutions does not fix the problem, even | though it claims that the update went through successfully: | | whois barbarafield.org | Domain Name: BARBARAFIELD.ORG | Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC. | Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com | Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com | Name Server: NS1.PURPLECAT.NET | Name Server: NS2.PURPLECAT.NET | Updated Date: 05-nov-2001 | | .. | | Domain servers in listed order: | | NS1.PURPLECAT.NET 209.16.228.148 | NS2.PURPLECAT.NET 209.16.228.149 | | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn and relearn. --Alvin Toffler ------------------------------------------------------------- http://insourcery.com - Mergence of Business and Technology a "Griffin Plaza Partners, LLC" Company To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Apr 30 9:55:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rack.purplecat.net (rack.purplecat.net [208.133.44.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D579A37B421 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 09:55:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 28695 invoked from network); 30 Apr 2002 16:55:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO micron) (208.150.25.130) by rack.purplecat.net with SMTP; 30 Apr 2002 16:55:22 -0000 From: "Peter Brezny" To: "Edwin Culp" , Cc: "'Peter Brezny'" , "'Forrest W. Christian'" , Subject: RE: Help host resolution mixup. Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 12:55:25 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 In-Reply-To: <1020184993.3ccec9a14978a@Mail.EnContacto.Net> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ed, Thanks a lot. This is very clear, and addresses my issue exactly. I'll talk with domaindiscover.com and see if they can work this out. Peter Brezny Skyrunner.net -----Original Message----- From: Edwin Culp [mailto:eculp@encontacto.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 12:43 PM To: john@day-light.com Cc: 'Peter Brezny'; 'Forrest W. Christian'; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Help host resolution mixup. It is my understanding that NetSol/VeriSign has finally started working on the registry server "orphan A records" issue. With thing the way they are with their layoff's, etc. who knows when they will finish. You may be able to access the registry A glue record through the domain management interface with your registrar, http://domaindiscover.com/. This will be seperate from your domain nameserver information. It isn't always easy to find but it should offer you the option of deleting or modifying the ip. You will probably only be able to delete it if there are no dependent domains registered. I hope this is clear, addresses your issue and helps somewhat. ed Quoting John Brooks : | just curious... were ns1.purplecat.net and ns2.purplecat.net ever | registered | as nameserver hosts with networksolutions at some point in the past? | | note the "Updated Date: 05-nov-2001" in the whois record - do you think | they | may be holding some old data because they still have you listed as hosts on | their system? | | -- | John Brooks | john@stlbsd.org | | | -----Original Message----- | From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG | [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Peter Brezny | Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 10:58 AM | To: Forrest W. Christian; Peter Brezny | Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG | Subject: RE: Help host resolution mixup. | | | ... | | whois agrnews.org | Domain Name: AGRNEWS.ORG | Registrar: CORE INTERNET COUNCIL OF REGISTRARS | Whois Server: whois.corenic.net | Referral URL: http://www.corenic.net | Name Server: NS1.PURPLECAT.NET | Name Server: NS2.PURPLECAT.NET | Updated Date: 24-apr-2002 | | domains registered at networksolutions.com provide incorrect ip addresses | for ns1 and ns2.purplecat.net even thought he forward lookup for these | hosts | works fine, _and_ modifying the information for barbarafield.org with the | correct ip addresses at networksolutions does not fix the problem, even | though it claims that the update went through successfully: | | whois barbarafield.org | Domain Name: BARBARAFIELD.ORG | Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC. | Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com | Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com | Name Server: NS1.PURPLECAT.NET | Name Server: NS2.PURPLECAT.NET | Updated Date: 05-nov-2001 | | .. | | Domain servers in listed order: | | NS1.PURPLECAT.NET 209.16.228.148 | NS2.PURPLECAT.NET 209.16.228.149 | | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn and relearn. --Alvin Toffler ------------------------------------------------------------- http://insourcery.com - Mergence of Business and Technology a "Griffin Plaza Partners, LLC" Company To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Apr 30 10:17:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from encontacto.net (adsl-64-173-182-158.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [64.173.182.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08BB637B419 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:17:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 0) by encontacto.net with local; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:17:22 -0700 Received: from 64.173.182.155 ( [64.173.182.155]) as user eculp@encontacto.net@encontacto.net by Mail.EnContacto.Net with HTTP; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:17:22 -0700 Message-ID: <1020187042.3cced1a2c910d@Mail.EnContacto.Net> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:17:22 -0700 From: Edwin Culp To: Andrew Matheson Cc: Peter Brezny , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Help host resolution mixup. References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 4.0-cvs X-Originating-IP: 64.173.182.155 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoting Andrew Matheson : | Peter, | I had a similar problem with one of my domains a number of months ago. It | turned out that network solutions was providing old information about my name | servers that they retrieved from a global database. I hadn't updated the IP | addresses associated with the name servers with the new ISP since it wasn't | on their domain transfer form--I assumed they would do a forward lookup to | resolve the names. I was wrong. The new ISP defaulted to using the old | network solutions data rather than a forward lookup of the names I entered. | It took quite some time and a long call to network solutions to figure out | that this is what was going on. You might double check with your new | registrar and see if there's a form you haven't filled out yet to set the IP | addresses associated with your name servers. Now, if only I could remember | the URL to the page that allowed querying of the global name server | database... I've had good luck with http://www.internic.net/cgi/whois but in this case the strange thing is that both 209.16.228.148 209.16.228.149 show No match for nameserver "209.16.228.148". No match for nameserver "209.16.228.149". That really makes it perplexing. Where would one go to fix something the isn't broken externally. I have a couple of domains that have had similar problems but they always show up on the above test. I guess it is time for a call to NetSol. ed | | Good Luck, | Andrew Matheson | | | >Thanks for the help John, | > | >Yes, ns1 and ns2.purplecat.net were both listed as hosts with | >networksolutions, I attempted to modify their host record with netsol, | >however, when i do, it correctly says that those hosts are no longer with | >netsol... | > | >Seems like a glitch on their end. | > | >Peter Brezny | >purplecat.net | > | > | > | >-----Original Message----- | >From: John Brooks [mailto:john@day-light.com] | >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 12:21 PM | >To: 'Peter Brezny'; 'Forrest W. Christian' | >Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG | >Subject: RE: Help host resolution mixup. | > | > | >just curious... were ns1.purplecat.net and ns2.purplecat.net ever | registered | >as nameserver hosts with networksolutions at some point in the past? | > | >note the "Updated Date: 05-nov-2001" in the whois record - do you think | they | >may be holding some old data because they still have you listed as hosts | on | >their system? | > | >-- | >John Brooks | >john@stlbsd.org | > | > | >-----Original Message----- | >From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG | >[mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Peter Brezny | >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 10:58 AM | >To: Forrest W. Christian; Peter Brezny | >Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG | >Subject: RE: Help host resolution mixup. | > | > | >... | > | >whois agrnews.org | > Domain Name: AGRNEWS.ORG | > Registrar: CORE INTERNET COUNCIL OF REGISTRARS | > Whois Server: whois.corenic.net | > Referral URL: http://www.corenic.net | > Name Server: NS1.PURPLECAT.NET | > Name Server: NS2.PURPLECAT.NET | > Updated Date: 24-apr-2002 | > | >domains registered at networksolutions.com provide incorrect ip addresses | >for ns1 and ns2.purplecat.net even thought he forward lookup for these | hosts | >works fine, _and_ modifying the information for barbarafield.org with the | >correct ip addresses at networksolutions does not fix the problem, even | >though it claims that the update went through successfully: | > | >whois barbarafield.org | > Domain Name: BARBARAFIELD.ORG | > Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC. | > Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com | > Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com | > Name Server: NS1.PURPLECAT.NET | > Name Server: NS2.PURPLECAT.NET | > Updated Date: 05-nov-2001 | > | >.. | > | > Domain servers in listed order: | > | > NS1.PURPLECAT.NET 209.16.228.148 | > NS2.PURPLECAT.NET 209.16.228.149 | > | > | > | > | >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message | | | -- | ----------------------------------------------------------- | Andrew Matheson email: matheson@jamboa.com | ----------------------------------------------------------- | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn and relearn. --Alvin Toffler ------------------------------------------------------------- http://insourcery.com - Mergence of Business and Technology a "Griffin Plaza Partners, LLC" Company To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Apr 30 10:26:39 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from encontacto.net (adsl-64-173-182-158.dsl.mtry01.pacbell.net [64.173.182.158]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9B1E37B405 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:26:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (uid 0) by encontacto.net with local; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:26:30 -0700 Received: from 64.173.182.155 ( [64.173.182.155]) as user eculp@encontacto.net@encontacto.net by Mail.EnContacto.Net with HTTP; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:26:30 -0700 Message-ID: <1020187590.3cced3c68b0de@Mail.EnContacto.Net> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:26:30 -0700 From: Edwin Culp To: Peter Brezny Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Help host resolution mixup. References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 4.0-cvs X-Originating-IP: 64.173.182.155 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Quoting Peter Brezny : | Ed, | | Thanks a lot. | | This is very clear, and addresses my issue exactly. I'll talk with | domaindiscover.com and see if they can work this out. | | Peter Brezny | Skyrunner.net Peter, After checking further with http://www.internic.net/cgi/whois you may still have to go NetSol because I haven't been able to detect the problem externally. Have you thought about assigning NS3 and NS4 to your current IP's, registering them with domaindiscover as registry name servers. (The one to one restriction was removed earily this year) then go to netsol and change ns1 and ns2 to ns3 and ns4. It is a hack/work around that really sucks but could/should be faster and less frustrating than dealing with NetSol. ed | | | | -----Original Message----- | From: Edwin Culp [mailto:eculp@encontacto.net] | Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 12:43 PM | To: john@day-light.com | Cc: 'Peter Brezny'; 'Forrest W. Christian'; freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG | Subject: RE: Help host resolution mixup. | | | It is my understanding that NetSol/VeriSign has finally started working | on the registry server "orphan A records" issue. With thing the way | they are with their layoff's, etc. who knows when they will finish. | | You may be able to access the registry A glue record through the | domain management interface with your registrar, | http://domaindiscover.com/. | This will be seperate from your domain nameserver information. It isn't | always easy to find but it should offer you the option of deleting or | modifying the ip. You will probably only be able to delete it if there | are no dependent domains registered. | | I hope this is clear, addresses your issue and helps somewhat. | | ed | | Quoting John Brooks : | | | just curious... were ns1.purplecat.net and ns2.purplecat.net ever | | registered | | as nameserver hosts with networksolutions at some point in the past? | | | | note the "Updated Date: 05-nov-2001" in the whois record - do you think | | they | | may be holding some old data because they still have you listed as hosts | on | | their system? | | | | -- | | John Brooks | | john@stlbsd.org | | | | | | -----Original Message----- | | From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG | | [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Peter Brezny | | Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 10:58 AM | | To: Forrest W. Christian; Peter Brezny | | Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG | | Subject: RE: Help host resolution mixup. | | | | | | ... | | | | whois agrnews.org | | Domain Name: AGRNEWS.ORG | | Registrar: CORE INTERNET COUNCIL OF REGISTRARS | | Whois Server: whois.corenic.net | | Referral URL: http://www.corenic.net | | Name Server: NS1.PURPLECAT.NET | | Name Server: NS2.PURPLECAT.NET | | Updated Date: 24-apr-2002 | | | | domains registered at networksolutions.com provide incorrect ip addresses | | for ns1 and ns2.purplecat.net even thought he forward lookup for these | | hosts | | works fine, _and_ modifying the information for barbarafield.org with the | | correct ip addresses at networksolutions does not fix the problem, even | | though it claims that the update went through successfully: | | | | whois barbarafield.org | | Domain Name: BARBARAFIELD.ORG | | Registrar: NETWORK SOLUTIONS, INC. | | Whois Server: whois.networksolutions.com | | Referral URL: http://www.networksolutions.com | | Name Server: NS1.PURPLECAT.NET | | Name Server: NS2.PURPLECAT.NET | | Updated Date: 05-nov-2001 | | | | .. | | | | Domain servers in listed order: | | | | NS1.PURPLECAT.NET 209.16.228.148 | | NS2.PURPLECAT.NET 209.16.228.149 | | | | | | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | | with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message | | | | | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- | The illiterate of the 21st century will not be | those who cannot read and write, | but those who cannot learn, unlearn and relearn. | --Alvin Toffler | | ------------------------------------------------------------- | http://insourcery.com - Mergence of Business and Technology | a "Griffin Plaza Partners, LLC" Company | | | To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org | with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message | ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The illiterate of the 21st century will not be those who cannot read and write, but those who cannot learn, unlearn and relearn. --Alvin Toffler ------------------------------------------------------------- http://insourcery.com - Mergence of Business and Technology a "Griffin Plaza Partners, LLC" Company To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Apr 30 12:40:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from stella.pyramus.com (stella.pyramus.com [206.129.206.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4602537B41C for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 12:40:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pyramus.com (dark-star.pyramus.com [206.129.206.6]) by stella.pyramus.com (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g3UJiTm77978 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 12:44:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blake@pyramus.com) Message-ID: <3CCEF4DF.C394F11B@pyramus.com> Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 12:47:43 -0700 From: Blake Swensen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail virus scanning References: <012f01c1e8b5$d56b2ce0$0300a8c0@zeus> <20020423140849.A92390@curry.mchp.siemens.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have installed and am using DR.Web. It tooks some doing as the documentation is a bit sketchy. However, now that I have it installed it works very, very well. It even does a modest amount of spam filtering. That being said, the port for drweb-sendmail appears to be broken, but the package installation worked very well. Also, make sure that you are not getting the package from the Freebsd 4.2 tree... it installs ok but doesn't actually do anything once installed. Happy hacking. Peace, Blake Andre Albsmeier wrote: > > On Sat, 20-Apr-2002 at 14:53:40 -0700, Patrick O. Fish wrote: > > I'm looking for a sendmail addon to scan each e-mail (at least incoming, but > > incoming and outgoing preferred) for virii's. I've heard that they don't > > work well on FreeBSD? any ideas welcome. > > I love RAV's native version for FreeBSD using the sendmail milter > interface. > > http://www.ravantivirus.com/ > > -Andre > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Apr 30 14: 6:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from badger.wordzoo.com (12-232-209-206.client.attbi.com [12.232.209.206]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D493637B417 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 14:06:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from badger.wordzoo.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by badger.wordzoo.com (8.12.1/8.12.1/Debian -5) with ESMTP id g3UL6Gnc001477; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 14:06:17 -0700 Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 14:06:15 -0700 Message-ID: <87pu0gsxq0.wl@badger.wordzoo.com> From: Jared Rhine To: "Forrest W. Christian" Cc: Peter Brezny , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Help host resolution mixup. In-Reply-To: <20020430100204.B33246-100000@workhorse.imach.com> References: <20020430100204.B33246-100000@workhorse.imach.com> X-Mailer: Xemacs/Wanderlust Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org [Forrest == forrestc@imach.com on Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:11:28 -0600 (MDT)] Forrest> There is a quite simple explanation for this. For some Forrest> reason the internic whois database still has the old ip Forrest> addresses for the nameservers. I've had this problem before too. The root cause is there is no protocol is place for the global domain registry to push modified information back to registrars. Local registrars do cache whois information, as it would be impractical for them to download the whole dataset frequently. Once they've cached the results, there's no way for NetSol (or any other registrar) to know that it has been changed by another registrar. So this isn't a NetSol specific problem (as much as I love to hate them). At one point after I transferred registrars for a domain that had nameservers, I had to contact three different registrars to ask them to manually refresh their whois cache. You should be able to write to NetSol to ask them to do that for you. It's getting impractical to do this for every registrar that runs a whois, so the general problem is intractable until the registry is able to push changes back to the registrars. I have a script laying around somewhere which checks with a list of registrars to see if their information is current. I think registrars are used to this situation; when contacted, none of them (including netsol) acted confused and whois just started returning the correct information sometime later. Also note that this situation doesn't actually break anything related to name service. The global registry ("the root servers") are the authoritative answer in all cases and all DNS queries go through that. They will always return NS records matching whatever the last registrar updated the database with. Only whois is busted. It's definitely an annoyance, though. PS. ISPs who used the information in whois (as described by one poster) instead of what's in the registry itself aren't being very careful. It's easy to query the root nameservers for the current IP instead of using whois: dig @g.gtld-servers.net. yahoo.com soa ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> @g.gltd-servers.net. yahoo.com soa ; Bad server: g.gltd-servers.net. -- using default server and timer opts ; (2 servers found) ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 5, ADDITIONAL: 5 ;; QUERY SECTION: ;; yahoo.com, type = SOA, class = IN ;; ANSWER SECTION: yahoo.com. 30M IN SOA hidden-master.yahoo.com. hostmaster.yahoo-inc.com. ( 2002043010 ; serial 15M ; refresh 5M ; retry 1W ; expiry 10M ) ; minimum ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: yahoo.com. 17h33m49s IN NS ns1.yahoo.com. yahoo.com. 17h33m49s IN NS ns2.yahoo.com. yahoo.com. 17h33m49s IN NS ns3.yahoo.com. yahoo.com. 17h33m49s IN NS ns4.yahoo.com. yahoo.com. 17h33m49s IN NS ns5.yahoo.com. ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: ns1.yahoo.com. 16h23m48s IN A 66.218.71.63 ns2.yahoo.com. 16h23m48s IN A 209.132.1.28 ns3.yahoo.com. 16h23m48s IN A 217.12.4.104 ns4.yahoo.com. 16h23m48s IN A 63.250.206.138 ns5.yahoo.com. 16h23m48s IN A 64.58.77.85 ;; Total query time: 46 msec ;; FROM: badger to SERVER: default -- 127.0.0.1 ;; WHEN: Tue Apr 30 14:05:57 2002 ;; MSG SIZE sent: 27 rcvd: 277 -- jared@wordzoo.com War is God's way of teaching Americans geography. -Ambrose Bierce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Apr 30 18:34:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mrout2.yahoo.com (mrout2.yahoo.com [216.145.54.172]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5A2F37B421 for ; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 18:33:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from zoot.corp.yahoo.com (zoot.corp.yahoo.com [216.145.52.89]) by mrout2.yahoo.com (8.11.6/8.11.6/y.out) with ESMTP id g411XSE79736; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 18:33:28 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (dougb@localhost) by zoot.corp.yahoo.com (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) with ESMTP id g3UNULId055103; Tue, 30 Apr 2002 16:30:21 -0700 (PDT) X-Authentication-Warning: zoot.corp.yahoo.com: dougb owned process doing -bs Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 16:30:21 -0700 (PDT) From: Doug Barton To: Peter Brezny Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: Help host resolution mixup. In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020430162924.P55085-100000@zoot.corp.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Peter Brezny wrote: > Doug, > > I can't really think of a more appropriate list for this kind of question > than the freebsd-isp list, please let me know if there is one, however... As I said, you should talk to your registrar. This is a common configuration problem. > From the freebsd mail list description: > freebsd-isp Issues for Internet Service Providers using FreeBSD That's generally understood to mean "FreeBSD issues ..." -- "We have known freedom's price. We have shown freedom's power. And in this great conflict, ... we will see freedom's victory." - George W. Bush, President of the United States State of the Union, January 28, 2002 Do YOU Yahoo!? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 1 5:46:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from rack.purplecat.net (rack.purplecat.net [208.133.44.46]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3F8E37B41B for ; Wed, 1 May 2002 05:46:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 24087 invoked by uid 89); 1 May 2002 12:47:11 -0000 Message-ID: <20020501124711.24086.qmail@rack.purplecat.net> References: <20020430100204.B33246-100000@workhorse.imach.com> <87pu0gsxq0.wl@badger.wordzoo.com> In-Reply-To: <87pu0gsxq0.wl@badger.wordzoo.com> From: "Peter Brezny" To: Jared Rhine Cc: "Forrest W. Christian" , Peter Brezny , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help host resolution mixup. Date: Wed, 01 May 2002 12:47:11 GMT Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jared, Thanks a lot for the detailed explanation. This really helps to clarify things. Yours, Peter Brezny purplecat.net Jared Rhine writes: > [Forrest == forrestc@imach.com on Tue, 30 Apr 2002 10:11:28 -0600 (MDT)] > > Forrest> There is a quite simple explanation for this. For some > Forrest> reason the internic whois database still has the old ip > Forrest> addresses for the nameservers. > > I've had this problem before too. > > The root cause is there is no protocol is place for the global domain > registry to push modified information back to registrars. Local > registrars do cache whois information, as it would be impractical for them > to download the whole dataset frequently. Once they've cached the > results, there's no way for NetSol (or any other registrar) to know that > it has been changed by another registrar. > > So this isn't a NetSol specific problem (as much as I love to hate them). > At one point after I transferred registrars for a domain that had > nameservers, I had to contact three different registrars to ask them to > manually refresh their whois cache. You should be able to write to NetSol > to ask them to do that for you. > > It's getting impractical to do this for every registrar that runs a whois, > so the general problem is intractable until the registry is able to push > changes back to the registrars. I have a script laying around somewhere > which checks with a list of registrars to see if their information is > current. > > I think registrars are used to this situation; when contacted, none of > them (including netsol) acted confused and whois just started returning > the correct information sometime later. > > Also note that this situation doesn't actually break anything related to > name service. The global registry ("the root servers") are the > authoritative answer in all cases and all DNS queries go through that. > They will always return NS records matching whatever the last registrar > updated the database with. Only whois is busted. It's definitely an > annoyance, though. > > PS. ISPs who used the information in whois (as described by one poster) > instead of what's in the registry itself aren't being very careful. It's > easy to query the root nameservers for the current IP instead of using > whois: > > dig @g.gtld-servers.net. yahoo.com soa > > ; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> @g.gltd-servers.net. yahoo.com soa > ; Bad server: g.gltd-servers.net. -- using default server and timer opts > ; (2 servers found) > ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch > ;; got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 6 > ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 5, ADDITIONAL: 5 > ;; QUERY SECTION: > ;; yahoo.com, type = SOA, class = IN > > ;; ANSWER SECTION: > yahoo.com. 30M IN SOA hidden-master.yahoo.com. hostmaster.yahoo-inc.com. ( > 2002043010 ; serial > 15M ; refresh > 5M ; retry > 1W ; expiry > 10M ) ; minimum > > > ;; AUTHORITY SECTION: > yahoo.com. 17h33m49s IN NS ns1.yahoo.com. > yahoo.com. 17h33m49s IN NS ns2.yahoo.com. > yahoo.com. 17h33m49s IN NS ns3.yahoo.com. > yahoo.com. 17h33m49s IN NS ns4.yahoo.com. > yahoo.com. 17h33m49s IN NS ns5.yahoo.com. > > ;; ADDITIONAL SECTION: > ns1.yahoo.com. 16h23m48s IN A 66.218.71.63 > ns2.yahoo.com. 16h23m48s IN A 209.132.1.28 > ns3.yahoo.com. 16h23m48s IN A 217.12.4.104 > ns4.yahoo.com. 16h23m48s IN A 63.250.206.138 > ns5.yahoo.com. 16h23m48s IN A 64.58.77.85 > > ;; Total query time: 46 msec > ;; FROM: badger to SERVER: default -- 127.0.0.1 > ;; WHEN: Tue Apr 30 14:05:57 2002 > ;; MSG SIZE sent: 27 rcvd: 277 > > -- jared@wordzoo.com > > War is God's way of teaching Americans geography. -Ambrose Bierce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed May 1 14:47: 7 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts14.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2208E37B405; Wed, 1 May 2002 14:46:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cerberus.motorcity.on.ca ([65.95.180.43]) by tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20020501214657.MKEV18853.tomts14-srv.bellnexxia.net@cerberus.motorcity.on.ca>; Wed, 1 May 2002 17:46:57 -0400 Received: from ddd ([192.168.254.32]) by cerberus.motorcity.on.ca (8.12.2/8.12.2) with SMTP id g41LnG3U000507; Wed, 1 May 2002 17:49:17 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from george@durham.net) Reply-To: From: "George Ramos" To: "'On'" Cc: , Subject: Blake, Andre and anyone else that cares to comment on virus scanning. PLEASE!!! Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 04:20:50 -0400 Message-ID: <004a01c1f0e9$1b7b5bc0$20fea8c0@ddd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi. I have a question for both Blake and Andre. First of all, what is the URL for Dr Web? Secondly, I'm missing Andre's point and I am trying to understand, why are you Andre asking about "for a sendmail addon to scan each e-mail (at least incoming, but > > incoming and outgoing preferred) for virii's. I've heard that they don't > > work well on FreeBSD? any ideas welcome." but then move on to say "I love RAV's native version for FreeBSD using the sendmail milter > interface. > > http://www.ravantivirus.com/ Isn't ravantivirus the same thing? Can you please kindly explain Andre because it seems to me that you were asking for something that you already have....? I hope that you don't mind my asking but we are trying to implement a virus scanning solution for our customers and needless to say we are trying to do this as painlessly as possible. We've been watching the suggestions on the list and I was encouraged by Blake's answer regarding Dr.Web. Lastly, can you tell me, how long should it take to get this Dr.Web running and are there any pitfalls that we should watch for? Thank you. George Durham Net Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 3:48 PM Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: sendmail virus scanning I have installed and am using DR.Web. It tooks some doing as the documentation is a bit sketchy. However, now that I have it installed it works very, very well. It even does a modest amount of spam filtering. That being said, the port for drweb-sendmail appears to be broken, but the package installation worked very well. Also, make sure that you are not getting the package from the Freebsd 4.2 tree... it installs ok but doesn't actually do anything once installed. Happy hacking. Peace, Blake Andre Albsmeier wrote: > > On Sat, 20-Apr-2002 at 14:53:40 -0700, Patrick O. Fish wrote: > > I'm looking for a sendmail addon to scan each e-mail (at least incoming, but > > incoming and outgoing preferred) for virii's. I've heard that they don't > > work well on FreeBSD? any ideas welcome. > > I love RAV's native version for FreeBSD using the sendmail milter > interface. > > http://www.ravantivirus.com/ > > -Andre To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 2 8:43: 0 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtpzilla2.xs4all.nl (smtpzilla2.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.138]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A02E937B417 for ; Thu, 2 May 2002 08:42:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from list1.xs4all.nl (list1.xs4all.nl [194.109.6.52]) by smtpzilla2.xs4all.nl (8.12.0/8.12.0) with ESMTP id g42FgqG4032793 for ; Thu, 2 May 2002 17:42:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from root@localhost) by list1.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) id RAA24153; Thu, 2 May 2002 17:42:52 +0200 (CEST) From: "-=|[RattleSn@ke]|=-" To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Via: imploder /usr/local/lib/mail/news2mail/news2mail at list1.xs4all.nl Subject: two servers Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 17:48:06 +0200 Organization: XS4ALL Internet BV Message-ID: Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've a (easy) question. I've two servers, a P1 100Mhz. 43MB RAM and a PII 233Mhz. 128MB RAM. I want to run a DNS, POP/SMTP, SQL and a WWWserver. What server(s) should run on what computer?? I hope that someone has the answer!?!? Greetz. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 2 8:46:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from smtp.kka.com (smtp.kka.com [63.141.65.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6343337B41A for ; Thu, 2 May 2002 08:46:13 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: two servers To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Lotus Notes Release 5.0.8 June 18, 2001 Message-ID: From: Eric_Stanfield@kenokozie.com Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 10:41:29 -0500 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on Notes1st/Keno(Release 5.0.4 |June 8, 2000) at 05/02/2002 10:41:35 AM MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Use the P-100 as a table to hold your coffee while you use the P2-233 to surf the web and find two new servers. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Eric Stanfield, K2Access Keno Kozie Associates 222 N LaSalle #1500 Chicago, IL 60606 (312) 332-3000 "-=|[RattleSn@ke] |=-" ; Thu, 2 May 2002 08:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from user-119aekg.biz.mindspring.com ([66.149.58.144] helo=ns.flncs.com) by falcon.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 173IsU-0005pN-00; Thu, 02 May 2002 08:52:19 -0700 Received: from mlevy.flncs.com (cylex [12.27.148.78]) by ns.flncs.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3805557E; Thu, 2 May 2002 11:55:41 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020502115337.00a7a2a8@imap.flncs.com> X-Sender: mlevy@imap.flncs.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 11:54:33 -0400 To: "-=|[RattleSn@ke]|=-" From: Moti Subject: Re: two servers Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 05:48 PM 5/2/2002 +0200, -=|[RattleSn@ke]|=- wrote: >I've a (easy) question. > >I've two servers, a P1 100Mhz. 43MB RAM and a PII 233Mhz. 128MB RAM. > >I want to run a DNS, POP/SMTP, SQL and a WWWserver. > >What server(s) should run on what computer?? > >I hope that someone has the answer!?!? > >Greetz. > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message use the p100 for dns and pop/smtp use the p!! for mysql and www good luck . ( i hope you dont plan on making a leaving out of those .... ) Moti To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 2 8:53:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from webmail.emre.de (webmail.emre.de [194.8.203.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0A637B400 for ; Thu, 2 May 2002 08:53:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.emre.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g42FqxB39283 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Thu, 2 May 2002 17:53:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from info@emre.de) X-Authentication-Warning: webmail.emre.de: www set sender to info@emre.de using -f Received: from 194.8.193.125 ( [194.8.193.125]) as user emre@webmail.emre.de by webmail.emre.de with HTTP; Thu, 2 May 2002 17:52:57 +0200 Message-ID: <1020354777.3cd160d9d41c3@webmail.emre.de> Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 17:52:57 +0200 From: Emre Bastuz To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: two servers References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.0 X-Originating-IP: 194.8.193.125 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sn@ke, the following combination might suit your needs: DNS, POP/SMTP -> P1 WWW , SQL -> P2 233 Of course this depends on which application will be expecting more load. In case DNS/POP/SMTP will be more heavily loaded, you might wish to use the P2 233 for DNS/POP/SMTP and the other one for WWW/SQL. BTW: your nick is quite 1337 ;) GrEEtZz - eMRe -- Emre Bastuz info@emre.de http://www.emre.de UIN: 561260 PGP Key ID: 0xAFAC77FD ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 2 9: 8:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from web1.nexusinternetsolutions.net (web1.nexusinternetsolutions.net [206.47.131.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4E3A837B41B for ; Thu, 2 May 2002 09:08:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 3942 invoked from network); 2 May 2002 16:22:46 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ws1) (24.102.18.54) by web1.nexusinternetsolutions.net with SMTP; 2 May 2002 16:22:46 -0000 From: "Dave" To: Subject: RE: Blake, Andre and anyone else that cares to comment on virus scanning. PLEASE!!! Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 12:14:25 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <004a01c1f0e9$1b7b5bc0$20fea8c0@ddd> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >First of all, what is the URL for Dr Web? http://www.sald.com/ >Secondly, I'm missing Andre's point and I am trying to understand, why are >you Andre asking about "for a sendmail addon to scan each e-mail (at least >incoming, but >> > incoming and outgoing preferred) for virii's. I've heard that they >don't >> > work well on FreeBSD? any ideas welcome." but then move on to say "I >love RAV's native version for FreeBSD using the sendmail milter >> interface. >> >> http://www.ravantivirus.com/ > >Isn't ravantivirus the same thing? Can you please kindly explain Andre >because it seems to me that you were asking for something that you already >have....? I hope that you don't mind my asking but we are trying to >implement a virus scanning solution for our customers and needless to say we >are trying to do this as painlessly as possible. We've been watching the >suggestions on the list and I was encouraged by Blake's answer regarding >Dr.Web. > >Lastly, can you tell me, how long should it take to get this Dr.Web running >and are there any pitfalls that we should watch for? are you looking for server implementation or workstation? if server what volume of what of email and platform? Dave >Thank you. > >George >Durham Net > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 3:48 PM >Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: sendmail virus scanning > > >I have installed and am using DR.Web. It tooks some doing as the >documentation is a bit sketchy. However, now that I have it installed >it works very, very well. It even does a modest amount of spam >filtering. > >That being said, the port for drweb-sendmail appears to be broken, but >the package installation worked very well. Also, make sure that you are >not getting the package from the Freebsd 4.2 tree... it installs ok but >doesn't actually do anything once installed. > >Happy hacking. > >Peace, >Blake > >Andre Albsmeier wrote: >> >> On Sat, 20-Apr-2002 at 14:53:40 -0700, Patrick O. Fish wrote: >> > I'm looking for a sendmail addon to scan each e-mail (at least incoming, >but >> > incoming and outgoing preferred) for virii's. I've heard that they >don't >> > work well on FreeBSD? any ideas welcome. >> >> I love RAV's native version for FreeBSD using the sendmail milter >> interface. >> >> http://www.ravantivirus.com/ >> >> -Andre > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 2 10: 5:47 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (tomts20.bellnexxia.net [209.226.175.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7040937B430 for ; Thu, 2 May 2002 10:04:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cerberus.motorcity.on.ca ([65.95.180.43]) by tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.5.01.04.05 201-253-122-122-105-20011231) with ESMTP id <20020502170432.BVFO2077.tomts20-srv.bellnexxia.net@cerberus.motorcity.on.ca>; Thu, 2 May 2002 13:04:32 -0400 Received: from ddd ([192.168.254.32]) by cerberus.motorcity.on.ca (8.12.2/8.12.2) with SMTP id g42H6p3U001901; Thu, 2 May 2002 13:06:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from george@durham.net) Reply-To: From: "George Ramos" To: "'Dave'" , Subject: RE: Blake, Andre and anyone else that cares to comment on virus scanning. PLEASE!!! Date: Wed, 1 May 2002 23:38:25 -0400 Message-ID: <002b01c1f18a$d153de80$20fea8c0@ddd> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 In-Reply-To: Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well, server. We have about 1500 subscribers and we are using sendmail and Free BSD 4.X. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dave Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 12:14 PM To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: RE: Blake, Andre and anyone else that cares to comment on virus scanning. PLEASE!!! >First of all, what is the URL for Dr Web? http://www.sald.com/ >Secondly, I'm missing Andre's point and I am trying to understand, why are >you Andre asking about "for a sendmail addon to scan each e-mail (at least >incoming, but >> > incoming and outgoing preferred) for virii's. I've heard that they >don't >> > work well on FreeBSD? any ideas welcome." but then move on to say "I >love RAV's native version for FreeBSD using the sendmail milter >> interface. >> >> http://www.ravantivirus.com/ > >Isn't ravantivirus the same thing? Can you please kindly explain Andre >because it seems to me that you were asking for something that you already >have....? I hope that you don't mind my asking but we are trying to >implement a virus scanning solution for our customers and needless to say we >are trying to do this as painlessly as possible. We've been watching the >suggestions on the list and I was encouraged by Blake's answer regarding >Dr.Web. > >Lastly, can you tell me, how long should it take to get this Dr.Web running >and are there any pitfalls that we should watch for? are you looking for server implementation or workstation? if server what volume of what of email and platform? Dave >Thank you. > >George >Durham Net > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 3:48 PM >Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG >Subject: Re: sendmail virus scanning > > >I have installed and am using DR.Web. It tooks some doing as the >documentation is a bit sketchy. However, now that I have it installed >it works very, very well. It even does a modest amount of spam >filtering. > >That being said, the port for drweb-sendmail appears to be broken, but >the package installation worked very well. Also, make sure that you are >not getting the package from the Freebsd 4.2 tree... it installs ok but >doesn't actually do anything once installed. > >Happy hacking. > >Peace, >Blake > >Andre Albsmeier wrote: >> >> On Sat, 20-Apr-2002 at 14:53:40 -0700, Patrick O. Fish wrote: >> > I'm looking for a sendmail addon to scan each e-mail (at least incoming, >but >> > incoming and outgoing preferred) for virii's. I've heard that they >don't >> > work well on FreeBSD? any ideas welcome. >> >> I love RAV's native version for FreeBSD using the sendmail milter >> interface. >> >> http://www.ravantivirus.com/ >> >> -Andre > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 2 12: 0:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.imach.com (barbwire.iMach.com [206.127.77.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF4D537B417 for ; Thu, 2 May 2002 12:00:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.imach.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g42J0DG44428; Thu, 2 May 2002 13:00:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from forrestc@imach.com) Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 13:00:13 -0600 (MDT) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: "-=|[RattleSn@ke]|=-" Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: two servers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020502125204.G40446-100000@workhorse.imach.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 2 May 2002, -=|[RattleSn@ke]|=- wrote: > I've a (easy) question. > > I've two servers, a P1 100Mhz. 43MB RAM and a PII 233Mhz. 128MB RAM. > > I want to run a DNS, POP/SMTP, SQL and a WWWserver. > > What server(s) should run on what computer?? > > I hope that someone has the answer!?!? Everyone else seems to want you to put the mail on the slower one and the web on the faster one. I think the best answer is that it depends on what you are doing. I have a Pentium III box w/512MB of RAM (soon to be a dual proc w/1GB and lots of vinumed disk) which is barely keeping up with our mail load. (There are also dns/sql servers running on this box just to support the mail server. IT was faster to run them locally than try to run them on a separate box). We handle a LOT of email messages a day and do virus and spamassasin filtering on each one. For the same customer base, we have a Pentium II at about 300mhz w/about 256MB ram running web, dns, customer sql, etc. etc. etc. which has a load average of less than 0.1 most of the time (Typically about 0.03 or so). I think the P1 is probably best used as a doorstop or a secondary DNS server, although I will admit that my personal server (used primarily for email) is a P1 120 w/64mb of ram. I'd put everything on the PII, with perhaps a secondary DNS server on the other box if you need two servers, and then as your needs grow you'll likely know what is consuming CPU/resources, and (hopefully) will be able to afford a faster server. - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Innovation Machine Ltd. P.O. Box 5749 http://www.imach.com/ Helena, MT 59604 Home of PacketFlux Technogies and BackupDNS.com (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Protect your personal freedoms - visit http://www.lp.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 2 12:19: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from satin.sensation.net.au (c16494.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au [210.49.158.113]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CB3B37B404 for ; Thu, 2 May 2002 12:19:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (rowan@localhost) by satin.sensation.net.au (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id FAA61615 for ; Fri, 3 May 2002 05:19:00 +1000 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: satin.sensation.net.au: rowan owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 05:19:00 +1000 (EST) From: Rowan Crowe To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: two servers In-Reply-To: <20020502125204.G40446-100000@workhorse.imach.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 2 May 2002, Forrest W. Christian wrote: > On Thu, 2 May 2002, -=|[RattleSn@ke]|=- wrote: > > > I've a (easy) question. > > > > I've two servers, a P1 100Mhz. 43MB RAM and a PII 233Mhz. 128MB RAM. > > > > I want to run a DNS, POP/SMTP, SQL and a WWWserver. > > > > What server(s) should run on what computer?? > > > > I hope that someone has the answer!?!? [...] > I'd put everything on the PII, with perhaps a secondary DNS server on the > other box if you need two servers, and then as your needs grow you'll > likely know what is consuming CPU/resources, and (hopefully) will be able > to afford a faster server. Just a minor tip related to future growth: give your DNS server(s) an IP alias each - no other services on that IP. When you have to move DNS to another server you can simply switch the ethernet or lo0 alias to the new server, without needing to go through the headache of changing name server IP records with your registrar and/or needing to manually redelegate your entire list of hosted domains. Caveat: This tip is useless if your new server is not in the same subnet, and you're unable to static route the DNS IP to the new server. :) Cheers. -- Rowan Crowe - Melbourne, Australia www.camrecord.com www.camdiscover.com www.heyasl.com www.sensationbot.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 2 12:59:32 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.imach.com (barbwire.iMach.com [206.127.77.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB5B237B400 for ; Thu, 2 May 2002 12:59:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.imach.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g42JxDs44670; Thu, 2 May 2002 13:59:14 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from forrestc@imach.com) Date: Thu, 2 May 2002 13:59:13 -0600 (MDT) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: Rowan Crowe Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: two servers In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20020502135645.F40446-100000@workhorse.imach.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 3 May 2002, Rowan Crowe wrote: > Just a minor tip related to future growth: give your DNS server(s) an IP > alias each - no other services on that IP. When you have to move DNS to > another server you can simply switch the ethernet or lo0 alias to the new > server, without needing to go through the headache of changing name server > IP records with your registrar and/or needing to manually redelegate your > entire list of hosted domains. Along those same lines, configure everyone's mail with "mail.yourdomain.com", their ftp/web with "ftp.whatever.com" or "www.whatever.com" etc. etc. etc. even if they all point to the same IP Address. Then you can split mail from the web later on without a lot of pain. Ideally, you'll acually use two separate ip's and just bind the appropriate servers to the appropriate ip's (With appropriate dns records pointing at them) so a misconfiguration won't work at all. - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Innovation Machine Ltd. P.O. Box 5749 http://www.imach.com/ Helena, MT 59604 Home of PacketFlux Technogies and BackupDNS.com (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Protect your personal freedoms - visit http://www.lp.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 2 16: 5:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from stella.pyramus.com (stella.pyramus.com [206.129.206.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2083D37B416 for ; Thu, 2 May 2002 16:05:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pyramus.com (dark-star.pyramus.com [206.129.206.6]) by stella.pyramus.com (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id g42NA5m98524; Thu, 2 May 2002 16:10:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from blake@pyramus.com) Message-ID: <3CD1C80D.5DC54EBC@pyramus.com> Date: Thu, 02 May 2002 16:13:17 -0700 From: Blake Swensen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en]C-DIAL (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: george@durham.net Cc: "'Dave'" , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Blake, Andre and anyone else that cares to comment on virus scanning. PLEASE!!! References: <002b01c1f18a$d153de80$20fea8c0@ddd> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Right... First... you can install drweb from the ports collection (/usr/ports/security/drweb and drweb-sendmail). I installed the packages because it was easier. Second... and this is a biggy. If you don't already have sendmail compiled with milter and you are not prepared to re-make sendmail then don't bother reading any further. If you are keeping current on sendmail then you should be an old hand at this. If not, shame! Dr.Web installs the daemon (drwebd), the command line scanner (drweb), and some other utilities to update virus definitions, etc. Steps are like this. Install port/package. Configure the drweb.ini file. Make a small change to /etc/defaults/make.conf. Re-make sendmail. Edit sendmail.cf. done. There is a test un-virus that comes with the installation. And... if you want, I can send you a pile of klez to run your tests on :) (I have trapped over 1000 messages that were spam or virus over the last three days, for example). The thing that got me confused was the whole 'port' thing.. That is to say that drwebd listens on a port as does drweb-smf (the sendmail filter). So sendmail passes every message to drweb-smf and it passes it to drwebd to be scanned. Then if OK, the thing takes a trip back through and gets dropped into the mailbox in the normal way. So, when I set it up I thought that the filter would have to be set to talk to the daemon on the port specified in the drweb32.ini file.. but I was wrong!. Sendmail has to talk to drweb-smf (the filter) on a port as well... so make sure that when you reconfigure sendmail.cf that you specify a different port than the one that drwebd is on..... other than that you'll be OK. Finally, starting the filter for the first time was a little trying. There are sooooooo many command line parameters that it needs before it will start up. If you get one wrong it won't start but it also will not tell you why.... arrrg. The startup script that it puts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d was no help either... So I ended up putting a value for every parameter then taking out the ones that didn't make sense until it broke. Have fun... although it was a bit of a bugger, it was well worth the effort. Peace, Blake George Ramos wrote: > > Well, server. We have about 1500 subscribers and we are using sendmail and > Free BSD 4.X. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Dave > Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2002 12:14 PM > To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > Subject: RE: Blake, Andre and anyone else that cares to comment on virus > scanning. PLEASE!!! > > >First of all, what is the URL for Dr Web? > > http://www.sald.com/ > > >Secondly, I'm missing Andre's point and I am trying to understand, why are > >you Andre asking about "for a sendmail addon to scan each e-mail (at least > >incoming, but > >> > incoming and outgoing preferred) for virii's. I've heard that they > >don't > >> > work well on FreeBSD? any ideas welcome." but then move on to say "I > >love RAV's native version for FreeBSD using the sendmail milter > >> interface. > >> > >> http://www.ravantivirus.com/ > > > >Isn't ravantivirus the same thing? Can you please kindly explain Andre > >because it seems to me that you were asking for something that you already > >have....? I hope that you don't mind my asking but we are trying to > >implement a virus scanning solution for our customers and needless to say > we > >are trying to do this as painlessly as possible. We've been watching the > >suggestions on the list and I was encouraged by Blake's answer regarding > >Dr.Web. > > > >Lastly, can you tell me, how long should it take to get this Dr.Web running > >and are there any pitfalls that we should watch for? > > are you looking for server implementation or workstation? if server what > volume > of what of email and platform? > > Dave > > >Thank you. > > > >George > >Durham Net > > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 3:48 PM > >Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG > >Subject: Re: sendmail virus scanning > > > > > >I have installed and am using DR.Web. It tooks some doing as the > >documentation is a bit sketchy. However, now that I have it installed > >it works very, very well. It even does a modest amount of spam > >filtering. > > > >That being said, the port for drweb-sendmail appears to be broken, but > >the package installation worked very well. Also, make sure that you are > >not getting the package from the Freebsd 4.2 tree... it installs ok but > >doesn't actually do anything once installed. > > > >Happy hacking. > > > >Peace, > >Blake > > > >Andre Albsmeier wrote: > >> > >> On Sat, 20-Apr-2002 at 14:53:40 -0700, Patrick O. Fish wrote: > >> > I'm looking for a sendmail addon to scan each e-mail (at least > incoming, > >but > >> > incoming and outgoing preferred) for virii's. I've heard that they > >don't > >> > work well on FreeBSD? any ideas welcome. > >> > >> I love RAV's native version for FreeBSD using the sendmail milter > >> interface. > >> > >> http://www.ravantivirus.com/ > >> > >> -Andre > > > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu May 2 20: 0:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail9.messagelabs.com (mail9.messagelabs.com [194.205.110.133]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B02937B405 for ; Thu, 2 May 2002 20:00:54 -0700 (PDT) X-VirusChecked: Checked Received: (qmail 15250 invoked by uid 0); 3 May 2002 03:00:52 -0000 Date: 3 May 2002 03:00:52 -0000 Message-ID: <20020503030052.15249.qmail@server-7.tower-9.messagelabs.com> To: mw@chrisclubley.co.uk To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: alert@notification.messagelabs.com Reply-To: alert@notification.messagelabs.com Subject: WARNING. You tried to send a potential virus or unauthorised code Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The MessageLabs SkyScan Anti-Virus service discovered a possible virus or unauthorised code (such as a joke program or trojan) in an email sent by you. The email has now been quarantined and was not delivered. Please read the whole of this email carefully. It explains what has happened to your email, which suspected virus has been caught and what to do if you need help addressing the problem. To help identify the quarantined email: The message sender was mw@chrisclubley.co.uk freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG The message recipients were info@fish4.co.uk The message title was A very powful tool The message date was (empty) The virus or unauthorised code identified in the email is F-Secure Anti-Virus for i386-linux Release 4.13 build 3360 Frisk Software International F-PROT engine version 3.10 build 701 692160_2MAUDIO-X-WAV_CTtarget.exe infection: W95/Klez.H@mm 3 files scanned 1 infections found Some viruses forge the sender address. For more information please visit the link to the virus FAQ's at the bottom of this page. The message was diverted into the virus holding pen on mail server server-7.tower-9.messagelabs.com (pen id 692160_1020394852) and will be held for 30 days before being destroyed Corporate Users: If you sent the email from a corporate network, you should first contact your local IT Helpdesk or System Administrator for advice. They will be able to help you disinfect your workstation. If you would like further information on how to subscribe to MessageLabs SkyScan AV service, a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, please complete our enquiry form. Personal or Home users: If you sent the email from a personal or home account, you will need to disinfect your computer yourself. Please contact your anti-virus software vendor for support. You may like to read the virus FAQ's at: http://www.messagelabs.com/page.asp?id=628 which will answer most virus related questions. ________________________________________________________________________ This email has been scanned for all viruses by the MessageLabs SkyScan service. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit http://www.messagelabs.com ________________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 3 16:57:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mail.vividnet.com (mail.vividnet.com [206.149.144.3]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6597537B41B for ; Fri, 3 May 2002 16:57:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from vividnet.com (guardian.vividnet.com [206.149.144.166]) by mail.vividnet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) with ESMTP id QAA04681 for ; Fri, 3 May 2002 16:57:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from robinche@vividnet.com) Message-ID: <3CD322AF.45ABE70E@vividnet.com> Date: Fri, 03 May 2002 16:52:15 -0700 From: Robin Chen X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.78 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: NAT using real IP References: <20020503030052.15249.qmail@server-7.tower-9.messagelabs.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I have a frame-relay connection and a DSL connection to the internet, and they both give me static ip. Generally I want to use frame-relay for all traffic because I have several ip addresses to use, but I want to utilize the DSL for all internal browsing traffic. Can I utilize natd for this? I've already have Squid set up in transparent proxy mode, but I want to try getting a straight pipe. Currently I have a FreeBSD router as the main frame-relay gateway. I've also installed a nat server connected to the DSL. The nat server has 2 interfaces, fxp0 using ip address from frame-relay and rl0 using ip address from DSL. The default route for nat server is using DSL's. On the main gateway, I'm using: ipfw add fwd nat.server.machine tcp from frame.relay.ip to any 80 I've set up the nat server running natd -interface rl0 with following: ipfw add divert natd tcp from any to any 80 via rl0 The result of the verbose output is: Out [TCP] [TCP] frame.relay.ip:4094 -> outside.web.site:80 aliased to [TCP] dsl.provider.ip:4094 -> outside.web.site:80 but the frame-relay client cannot pull up any websites. Does anyone know if this is doable? Thanks, Robin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 3 18:21:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from exodus.ait.co.za (exodus.ait.co.za [66.8.26.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 831C637B404 for ; Fri, 3 May 2002 18:21:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aragon [66.8.86.210] by exodus.ait.co.za (SMTPD32-4.06) id A5FD8C0148; Sat, 04 May 2002 03:20:45 0200 Message-ID: <000501c1f30a$394106f0$01000001@aragon> From: "Aragon Gouveia" To: Subject: vinum vs. ccd Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 03:22:56 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Howdy, I have two drives of different size that I need to combine into one volume. As much as I'd love to do striping, I don't think this will be reliable (if at all possible) with drives of differing size. So I've opted on just doing a straight concatenation of them. My question is an opionated one. I'm trying to decide between ccd and vinum. I need a reliable solution that's quick/easy to setup and maintain, and one where I don't have to worry about it breaking, say, 6 months down the line when I upgrade freebsd. ie. which of the two is regarded less developmental? Any suggestions? Thanks, Aragon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 3 18:37:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from floyd.gnulife.org (floyd.gnulife.org [199.86.41.27]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AFB6C37B400 for ; Fri, 3 May 2002 18:37:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by floyd.gnulife.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B02E743280; Fri, 3 May 2002 20:42:40 -0500 (CDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by floyd.gnulife.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 784FF4309D for ; Fri, 3 May 2002 20:42:40 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 20:42:40 -0500 (CDT) From: Jamie Ostrowski To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: nfsv2 vs nfsv3 Message-ID: <20020503204108.G175-100000@floyd.gnulife.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am interested in finding more information about nfsv2 and nfsv3 in FreeBSD. Performance enhancements, setup or configuration. Can anyone point out the major differences between the two, or point me to some docs some good documentation? Thx. - Jamie ************************************ !!! ************************************ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 3 19:14:12 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4903437B41B for ; Fri, 3 May 2002 19:14:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 3BA0581473; Sat, 4 May 2002 11:44:06 +0930 (CST) Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 11:44:06 +0930 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Aragon Gouveia Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vinum vs. ccd Message-ID: <20020504114406.C24071@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <000501c1f30a$394106f0$01000001@aragon> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000501c1f30a$394106f0$01000001@aragon> User-Agent: Mutt/1.3.23i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday, 4 May 2002 at 3:22:56 +0200, Aragon Gouveia wrote: > Howdy, > > I have two drives of different size that I need to combine into one volume. > As much as I'd love to do striping, I don't think this will be reliable (if > at all possible) with drives of differing size. So I've opted on just doing > a straight concatenation of them. > > My question is an opionated one. I'm trying to decide between ccd and vinum. > I need a reliable solution that's quick/easy to setup and maintain, and one > where I don't have to worry about it breaking, say, 6 months down the line > when I upgrade freebsd. ie. which of the two is regarded less developmental? They're both mature. Vinum has better management tools. I think it's easier to set up, but others disagree. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 3 19:23:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.imach.com (barbwire.iMach.com [206.127.77.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F0A037B400 for ; Fri, 3 May 2002 19:23:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.imach.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g442N3951219; Fri, 3 May 2002 20:23:03 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from forrestc@imach.com) Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 20:23:03 -0600 (MDT) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: Aragon Gouveia Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vinum vs. ccd In-Reply-To: <000501c1f30a$394106f0$01000001@aragon> Message-ID: <20020503202045.J49181-100000@workhorse.imach.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, 4 May 2002, Aragon Gouveia wrote: > > I have two drives of different size that I need to combine into one volume. > As much as I'd love to do striping, I don't think this will be reliable (if > at all possible) with drives of differing size. So I've opted on just doing > a straight concatenation of them. ARe you sure you want to do this? You know if either drive fails, you're screwed. Have you considered making two filesystems and using creative symlinking and/or mounting? That said: > My question is an opionated one. I'm trying to decide between ccd and vinum. > I need a reliable solution that's quick/easy to setup and maintain, and one > where I don't have to worry about it breaking, say, 6 months down the line > when I upgrade freebsd. ie. which of the two is regarded less developmental? I use vinum *a lot*. I'm always using it in a raid 1 or striped raid 0+1 configuration with identical volume sizes so I can't comment on your specific situation, although I can vouch for it's stability in my application. - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Innovation Machine Ltd. P.O. Box 5749 http://www.imach.com/ Helena, MT 59604 Home of PacketFlux Technogies and BackupDNS.com (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Protect your personal freedoms - visit http://www.lp.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 3 19:26:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from workhorse.imach.com (barbwire.iMach.com [206.127.77.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4274137B419 for ; Fri, 3 May 2002 19:26:14 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (forrestc@localhost) by workhorse.imach.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g442Q6a51258; Fri, 3 May 2002 20:26:06 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from forrestc@imach.com) Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 20:26:05 -0600 (MDT) From: "Forrest W. Christian" To: Aragon Gouveia Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: vinum vs. ccd In-Reply-To: <20020503202045.J49181-100000@workhorse.imach.com> Message-ID: <20020503202456.S49181-100000@workhorse.imach.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 3 May 2002, Forrest W. Christian wrote: > I use vinum *a lot*. I'm always using it in a raid 1 or striped raid 0+1 > configuration with identical volume sizes so I can't comment on your > specific situation, although I can vouch for it's stability in my > application. Substitute volume with "plex and/or subdisk" in the above paragraph. I also wanted to add that I hadn't used ccd, although I understand it works. - Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) AC7DE ---------------------------------------------------------------------- The Innovation Machine Ltd. P.O. Box 5749 http://www.imach.com/ Helena, MT 59604 Home of PacketFlux Technogies and BackupDNS.com (406)-442-6648 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Protect your personal freedoms - visit http://www.lp.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 3 19:31: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from exodus.ait.co.za (exodus.ait.co.za [66.8.26.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 45D2537B417 for ; Fri, 3 May 2002 19:30:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from aragon [66.8.86.210] by exodus.ait.co.za (SMTPD32-4.06) id A654233F0146; Sat, 04 May 2002 04:30:28 0200 Message-ID: <006a01c1f313$f667cad0$01000001@aragon> From: "Aragon Gouveia" To: References: <20020503202045.J49181-100000@workhorse.imach.com> Subject: Re: vinum vs. ccd Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 04:32:39 +0200 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hiya, > > I have two drives of different size that I need to combine into one volume. > > As much as I'd love to do striping, I don't think this will be reliable (if > > at all possible) with drives of differing size. So I've opted on just doing > > a straight concatenation of them. > > ARe you sure you want to do this? You know if either drive fails, you're > screwed. > Have you considered making two filesystems and using creative symlinking > and/or mounting? Yea I do realise this. I have explored the option of multiple filesystems and/or symlinking, but it will just create inconveniences and wasted space. Fortunately if one of the drives does fail, the data lost is far from critical :-). Thanks for your input. Regards, Aragon To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 3 21:28:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from opensrs.saignon.net (211.saignon.net [63.210.176.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E7D637B416 for ; Fri, 3 May 2002 21:28:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: from frankenmobl (opensrs.saignon.net [63.210.176.211]) by opensrs.saignon.net (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g444Seg75518 for ; Fri, 3 May 2002 21:28:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tony@saign.com) From: "Tony Saign" To: Subject: Perl scripts that monitor network connection? Date: Fri, 3 May 2002 21:28:14 -0700 Message-ID: <000601c1f324$1ba0cda0$1401a8c0@frankenmobl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Recently (last night) for 3 hours my connection was experiencing some SERIOUS problems! (i.e. destination net unreachable, up to 47% packet from my router to theirs etc.) This made me realize I need to monitor this connection VERY closely. Until the issues are resolved. Can anyone recommend any network connection monitoring scripts that could be scheduled as cron jobs, and possibly emails the results to me? Or a good open-source package? Thanks, -Tony To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri May 3 23:43: 5 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from user2.pro-ns.net (user2.pro-ns.net [208.200.182.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C51E937B419 for ; Fri, 3 May 2002 23:43:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pro-ns.net (p128.pro-ns.net [208.210.150.28]) by user2.pro-ns.net (8.12.3/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g446h0CT095794 for ; Sat, 4 May 2002 01:43:01 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from mwright@pro-ns.net) X-Authentication-Warning: user2.pro-ns.net: Host p128.pro-ns.net [208.210.150.28] claimed to be pro-ns.net Message-ID: <3CD382EA.8090503@pro-ns.net> Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 01:42:50 -0500 From: Mark Wright User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0rc1) Gecko/20020417 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: (no subject) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org auth 330960c0 unsubscribe freebsd-isp mwright@pro-ns.net To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 4 1:10:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from figg.isecure.com.au (ns2.isecure.com.au [202.125.4.72]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7A81337B41A for ; Sat, 4 May 2002 01:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iron.isentry.net.au (iron.isecure.com.au [202.125.4.94] (may be forged)) by figg.isecure.com.au (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g448AlL24670; Sat, 4 May 2002 18:10:47 +1000 Received: (from smap@localhost) by iron.isentry.net.au (8.11.2/8.10.2) id g448AlY13303; Sat, 4 May 2002 18:10:47 +1000 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: iron.isentry.net.au: smap set sender to using -f Received: from nodnsquery(10.11.3.10) by iron via smap (V5.5) id xma013300; Sat, 4 May 02 18:10:39 +1000 Received: from vmail.aipo.gov.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gibbons.isecure.com.au (8.11.3/8.10.2) with ESMTP id g448Adr31403; Sat, 4 May 2002 18:10:39 +1000 Received: from stan.aipo.gov.au (wf-88.aipo.gov.au [192.168.1.88]) by vmail.aipo.gov.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g448Abi89872; Sat, 4 May 2002 18:10:37 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) Received: (from anwsmh@localhost) by stan.aipo.gov.au (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g448AZE00230; Sat, 4 May 2002 18:10:35 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU) X-Authentication-Warning: stan.aipo.gov.au: anwsmh set sender to anwsmh@IPAustralia.Gov.AU using -f Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 18:10:35 +1000 From: Stanley Hopcroft To: Tony Saign Cc: FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Perl scripts that monitor network connection? Message-ID: <20020504181033.A194@IPAustralia.Gov.AU> References: <000601c1f324$1ba0cda0$1401a8c0@frankenmobl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000601c1f324$1ba0cda0$1401a8c0@frankenmobl>; from tony@saign.com on Fri, May 03, 2002 at 09:28:14PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Sir, On Fri, May 03, 2002 at 09:28:14PM -0700, Tony Saign wrote: > Recently (last night) for 3 hours my connection was experiencing some > SERIOUS problems! > (i.e. destination net unreachable, up to 47% packet from my router to > theirs etc.) > > This made me realize I need to monitor this connection VERY closely. > Until the issues are resolved. > > Can anyone recommend any network connection monitoring scripts that > could be scheduled as cron jobs, and possibly emails the results to me? > Or a good open-source package? > > Thanks, > > -Tony > Netsaint/Nagios (http://www.Netsaint.ORG) This will schedule service checks periodically, act on thresholds, log the results, notify and if necessary escalate or act programmatically. In this case, check_ping - from the standard check plugins [distinct from Netsaint] could be used to respond with a WARNING or CRITICAL state depending on RTA or packet loss ratio. Both Netsaint and plugins are in ports collection. In your case, acute episodic poor performance, you might be better served by intensive monitoring with MRTG or a continuous ping and a packet capture. Yours sincerely. -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Stanley Hopcroft Network Specialist ------------------------------------------------------------------------ '...No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. If a clod be washed away by the sea, Europe is the less, as well as if a promontory were, as well as if a manor of thy friend's or of thine own were. Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee...' from Meditation 17, J Donne. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 4 6: 0: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mailg.telia.com (mailg.telia.com [194.22.194.26]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2311537B41C for ; Sat, 4 May 2002 05:59:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from veidit.net (host-101.homerun.telia.com [194.23.29.101]) by mailg.telia.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g44Cxt529783 for ; Sat, 4 May 2002 14:59:55 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3CD3DB4A.6020206@veidit.net> Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 14:59:54 +0200 From: John Angelmo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.0rc1) Gecko/20020423 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: sendmail monitor and vacation Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello I wonder if there are any good sendmail mrtg scripts that you guys/girls would recomend, I'm looking for something where I can say the amount of messages sent per hour/day/week/month/year And what kind of scripts for autoreply on vacation would you recoment, there are two problems. The users are windows users and can't handle a shell and vi ;) so a webinterface (or similar) is needed, and in some way handle so it dosn't reply to specific adresses (mailinglists) thanks /John To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 4 8:43:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (ekgr-dsl2-92.citlink.net [207.173.226.92]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A8DC37B41A for ; Sat, 4 May 2002 08:43:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bigdaddy (bigdaddy [192.168.1.3]) by blacklamb.mykitchentable.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 22F70EE644; Sat, 4 May 2002 08:43:09 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <004701c1f382$63f62ba0$0301a8c0@bigdaddy> From: "Drew Tomlinson" To: "Tony Saign" , References: <000601c1f324$1ba0cda0$1401a8c0@frankenmobl> Subject: Re: Perl scripts that monitor network connection? Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 08:43:09 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tony Saign" To: Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:28 PM Subject: Perl scripts that monitor network connection? > Recently (last night) for 3 hours my connection was experiencing some > SERIOUS problems! > (i.e. destination net unreachable, up to 47% packet from my router to > theirs etc.) > > This made me realize I need to monitor this connection VERY closely. > Until the issues are resolved. > > Can anyone recommend any network connection monitoring scripts that > could be scheduled as cron jobs, and possibly emails the results to me? > Or a good open-source package? I've been experimenting with Big Brother. It's free for personal or non-profit use an is nothing more than a collection of perl scripts that produces web pages showing system and connectivity status. Because it's perl, it's highly customizable. You can get it from their website at http://www.bb4.com. HTH, Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 4 8:48: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from kpax.icsmx.com (kpax.icsmx.com [200.33.246.13]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BD9AA37B419 for ; Sat, 4 May 2002 08:48:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mipc.intranet.com.mx ([200.33.246.26]) by kpax.icsmx.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g44FjXQ93967 for ; Sat, 4 May 2002 10:45:34 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from jbiquez@icsmx.com) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020504103436.025a9450@icsmx.com> X-Sender: jbiquez@icsmx.com X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Sat, 04 May 2002 10:45:18 -0500 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: Jorge Biquez Subject: OFF-Topic.Restricting access to pages. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all. I'm sorry this is off topic. A friend from the speaking Spanish list asked me to post this here to know your comments and advice. She is on a project where she needs to restrict access to certain part of a site according to certain user category. Now there are not too many users but in the future could be more and could be lot of movement on the users, changing the permissions to what they can or can not see and access on the site. She thought on solve the problem with the htacess access feature from Apache. But with this solution she does not know how to control easily the maintenance of users that access the site. The other solution we were talking (I'm trying to help her) is to develop some validation with PHP and a database, construct all pages on the fly according to permissions. We know this could be a more extensive solution and that will require more time and resources. We know that both solutions could work but we are worried (since we have never done it before) on the security. I man, if users consult the pages, let's say on a public library , the complete path of the pages will be in the history of the browser user. Teorically a user could see the history and enter the site without being asked again for the user and password. Is that right? Any ideas on other options to look? Thanks in advance. JB To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 4 9:42: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.britesite.net (mx1.britesite.net [63.175.65.10]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6EB737B405 for ; Sat, 4 May 2002 09:41:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from stranger (dsl-209-81-146-23.dsl.iwc.net [209.81.146.23]) by mx1.britesite.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g44Gf9D41576; Sat, 4 May 2002 11:41:09 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from lanshark@bsinet.net) Message-ID: <015001c1f38a$d11671b0$0201a8c0@britesiteinet.net> From: "Edward Shabotinsky" To: , "Jorge Biquez" References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020504103436.025a9450@icsmx.com> Subject: Re: OFF-Topic.Restricting access to pages. Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 11:43:27 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org See if this may help you out http://www.freevsd.org/ Edward Shabotinsky Systems Engineer BritesiteINet Inc. --------------------------------- www.britesite.net lanshark@bsinet.net ---------------------------------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jorge Biquez" To: Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2002 10:45 AM Subject: OFF-Topic.Restricting access to pages. > Hello all. > I'm sorry this is off topic. > A friend from the speaking Spanish list asked me to post this here to know > your comments and advice. > She is on a project where she needs to restrict access to certain part of a > site according to certain user category. Now there are not too many users > but in the future could be more and could be lot of movement on the users, > changing the permissions to what they can or can not see and access on the > site. She thought on solve the problem with the htacess access feature from > Apache. But with this solution she does not know how to control easily the > maintenance of users that access the site. > The other solution we were talking (I'm trying to help her) is to develop > some validation with PHP and a database, construct all pages on the fly > according to permissions. We know this could be a more extensive solution > and that will require more time and resources. > We know that both solutions could work but we are worried (since we have > never done it before) on the security. I man, if users consult the pages, > let's say on a public library , the complete path of the pages will be in > the history of the browser user. Teorically a user could see the history > and enter the site without being asked again for the user and password. Is > that right? Any ideas on other options to look? > > Thanks in advance. > > JB > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 4 13:18:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from opensrs.saignon.net (211.saignon.net [63.210.176.211]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD43F37B41F for ; Sat, 4 May 2002 13:18:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: from frankenmobl (opensrs.saignon.net [63.210.176.211]) by opensrs.saignon.net (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g44KJ2g79389 for ; Sat, 4 May 2002 13:19:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tony@saign.com) From: "Tony Saign" To: Subject: RE: Perl scripts that monitor network connection? Date: Sat, 4 May 2002 13:18:36 -0700 Message-ID: <000201c1f3a8$df48f3c0$1401a8c0@frankenmobl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 In-Reply-To: <000601c1f324$1ba0cda0$1401a8c0@frankenmobl> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thanks all! I installed netsaint, and it is exactly what I was looking for. -Tony }-----Original Message----- }From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG }[mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Tony Saign }Sent: Friday, May 03, 2002 9:28 PM }To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG }Subject: Perl scripts that monitor network connection? } } }Recently (last night) for 3 hours my connection was experiencing some }SERIOUS problems! }(i.e. destination net unreachable, up to 47% packet from my router to }theirs etc.) } }This made me realize I need to monitor this connection VERY closely. }Until the issues are resolved. } }Can anyone recommend any network connection monitoring scripts that }could be scheduled as cron jobs, and possibly emails the results to me? }Or a good open-source package? } }Thanks, } }-Tony } } }To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org }with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 4 16: 4:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from webmail.emre.de (webmail.emre.de [194.8.203.50]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7C37A37B416 for ; Sat, 4 May 2002 16:04:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from www@localhost) by webmail.emre.de (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g44N4Xh06033 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Sun, 5 May 2002 01:04:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from info@emre.de) X-Authentication-Warning: webmail.emre.de: www set sender to info@emre.de using -f Received: from 192.168.2.2 ( [192.168.2.2]) as user emre@webmail.emre.de by webmail.emre.de with HTTP; Sun, 5 May 2002 01:04:32 +0200 Message-ID: <1020553472.3cd4690038d26@webmail.emre.de> Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 01:04:32 +0200 From: Emre Bastuz To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: OFF-Topic.Restricting access to pages. References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020504103436.025a9450@icsmx.com> In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20020504103436.025a9450@icsmx.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.0 X-Originating-IP: 192.168.2.2 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Jorge, > She is on a project where she needs to restrict access to certain part of a > site according to certain user category. if the required access restrictions are on a per file basis, .htaccess seems the most quick and dirty solution, as you already have mentioned. > The other solution we were talking (I'm trying to help her) is to develop > some validation with PHP and a database, construct all pages on the fly > according to permissions. We know this could be a more extensive solution > and that will require more time and resources. If restricting access to php/html pages is sufficient for you, the php / database combination might be what you´re looking for. You can restrict access to certain php/html files of even parts of these pages to certain users or groups. This is possible and done fairly often - take PHPNuke for example (a php based portal software, that presents the functionality of the pages according to the perrmission level of the logged in user). You do not have to create this kind of permission system from scratch. There are already working solutions out there that are well known and stable. I would recommend using the perm and auth classes of the phplib: http://sourceforge.net/projects/phplib I believe that the Horde project has also implemented some kind of permission/authorization system. The Horde application framework seems like straight out of Star Trek to me - still, if you want to take a look at it: http://cvs.horde.org/ If you want to hide not only php/html but also binaries like gifs or png´s from users without proper rights, maybe you should consider putting those binaries into a database too (just an idea)? > We know that both solutions could work but we are worried (since we have > never done it before) on the security. I man, if users consult the pages, > let's say on a public library , the complete path of the pages will be in > the history of the browser user. Teorically a user could see the history > and enter the site without being asked again for the user and password. Is > that right? Yes and no. Horde and phplib use session identifiers that are usually only valid for a certain time. If somebody hijacks that sesssion identifier, while it is still valid (i.e. the user hast not used the "log out" button, the user has not closed the browser windows, etc.) he/she can create the url´s to the files. In all other cases, the session system should be fairly secure. The validity of the session identifier is, on the other hand, only checked by parsed scritps (php code). Binaries are of course not checked and usually can be called directly by entering the url. Good luck, Emre -- Emre Bastuz info@emre.de http://www.emre.de UIN: 561260 PGP Key ID: 0xAFAC77FD ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 4 21: 4:23 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net (goose.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AA0137B400 for ; Sat, 4 May 2002 21:04:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: from dialup-63.215.236.34.dial1.stamford1.level3.net ([63.215.236.34] helo=laredo.retrovertigo.com) by goose.prod.itd.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 174DFt-0006fS-00; Sat, 04 May 2002 21:04:14 -0700 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: Dylan Carlson Reply-To: absinthe@pobox.com Organization: r e t r o v e r t i g o To: "Tony Saign" , Subject: Re: Perl scripts that monitor network connection? Date: Sun, 5 May 2002 00:04:46 -0400 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.4] References: <000601c1f324$1ba0cda0$1401a8c0@frankenmobl> In-Reply-To: <000601c1f324$1ba0cda0$1401a8c0@frankenmobl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <200205050004.46674.absinthe@pobox.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday 04 May 2002 12:28am, Tony Saign wrote: > Recently (last night) for 3 hours my connection was experiencing some > SERIOUS problems! > (i.e. destination net unreachable, up to 47% packet from my router to > theirs etc.) > > This made me realize I need to monitor this connection VERY closely. > Until the issues are resolved. > > Can anyone recommend any network connection monitoring scripts that > could be scheduled as cron jobs, and possibly emails the results to me? > Or a good open-source package? > IMHO -- cricket is the best thing going, but it's really geared towards a larger number of nodes. Using something like NetSaint or MRTG or BB is probably better for smaller environments... although neither of those packages have really given me the config flexibility and graphing power of RRDTool. RRDTool is a wonder unto itself. -- Dylan Carlson [absinthe@pobox.com] To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sat May 4 21:21:30 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (dsl-210-15-243-195.Melbourne.netspace.net.au [210.15.243.195]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D1B337B417 for ; Sat, 4 May 2002 21:21:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g454LDSP005586; Sun, 5 May 2002 14:21:13 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from msergeant@looksmart.net) Received: (from sarge@localhost) by xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g454L4ie005585; Sun, 5 May 2002 14:21:04 +1000 (EST) X-Authentication-Warning: xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net: sarge set sender to msergeant@looksmart.net using -f Subject: Re: Perl scripts that monitor network connection? From: Mark Sergeant To: absinthe@pobox.com Cc: Tony Saign , freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: <200205050004.46674.absinthe@pobox.com> References: <000601c1f324$1ba0cda0$1401a8c0@frankenmobl> <200205050004.46674.absinthe@pobox.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.3 Date: 05 May 2002 14:21:04 +1000 Message-Id: <1020572464.459.1.camel@xyzzy.intranet.snsonline.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Bigbrother has a rrdtool plugin written by the community. I use Big Brother to monitor 300 machines in 2 countries and have yet to find a fault with it as the ability to add your own items to monitor is brilliant. Cheers, Mark On Sun, 2002-05-05 at 14:04, Dylan Carlson wrote: > On Saturday 04 May 2002 12:28am, Tony Saign wrote: > > Recently (last night) for 3 hours my connection was experiencing some > > SERIOUS problems! > > (i.e. destination net unreachable, up to 47% packet from my router to > > theirs etc.) > > > > This made me realize I need to monitor this connection VERY closely. > > Until the issues are resolved. > > > > Can anyone recommend any network connection monitoring scripts that > > could be scheduled as cron jobs, and possibly emails the results to me? > > Or a good open-source package? > > >=20 > IMHO -- cricket is the best thing going, but it's really geared towards a= =20 > larger number of nodes. Using something like NetSaint or MRTG or BB is=20 > probably better for smaller environments... although neither of those=20 > packages have really given me the config flexibility and graphing power o= f=20 > RRDTool. >=20 > RRDTool is a wonder unto itself. =20 >=20 > --=20 > Dylan Carlson [absinthe@pobox.com] >=20 > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message >=20 --=20 Mark Sergeant Senior Unix Systems Administrator =20 L=F4=F4kSmart International Pty. Ltd. Level 5/388 Lonsdale Street Melbourne, VIC, 3000 Australia=20 P. (03) 9648 2201=20 F. (03) 9648 2244=20 http://www.looksmart.com.au This email may contain information which is confidential and/or privileged. If you are not the intended recipient you must not copy, distribute or otherwise use the information contained in this email and we request that you delete it from your system and notify the sender and/or LookSmart International Pty Ltd immediately. 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