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dclient217-162-128-229.hispeed.ch (HELO gaxp1800) (217.162.128.229) by 0 with SMTP; 4 Aug 2002 14:14:49 -0000 Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 16:15:21 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Educational Reply-To: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <193190142171.20020804161521@buz.ch> To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Wanted: transparent HTTP proxy, capable of mapping domains to ports (or the evergoing quest for suid execution of PHP scripts) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, in the ever going quest to get secure CGI/PHP (that basically means that PHP and CGI all have to run under the UID of the domain which is hard as long to achieve for PHP without PHP as standalone interpreter (slooow) as Apache MPM perchild doesn't (yet, hopefully) work on FreeBSd) we finally came up with something that would basically emulate the functionality of perchild. Basically, the idea is to run distinct Apache instance for every domain on some arbritrary port (say 2000+) and then have a transparent proxy on port 80 redirect the requests to the correct port. I.e. something like: 1) Outside Request arrives on port 80 2) Proxy parses URL and redirects the request to the correct port 3) Apache processes the data and sends it back to the proxy 4) Proxy sends back data to the client Now the Apache part is doable rather simply, actually. The trouble starts with the proxy which ideally should be pretty lightweight (and preferably NOT caching) (Apache mod_proxy seems like it could do the job but Apache isn't the fastest thing for such stuff) AND it needs to leave the source IP alone (so Apache can still log the data). I'm not even sure whether an userland proxy can achieve this (I remember going through a lot of trouble to get stunnel which supposedly supports transparent proxying running with our POP3 daemons) or whether this would be need to be implemented by means of a kernel module (probably a hack to ipnat could do it). I'd like to hear any comments on this as well as on other approaches to get PHP scripts running under the owner's uid. TIA & regards, Gabriel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Aug 4 8:54: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C372337B400 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 08:53:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iota.root-servers.ch (iota.root-servers.ch [193.41.193.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8429243E5E for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 08:53:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gaml@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 6740 invoked from network); 4 Aug 2002 15:52:49 -0000 Received: from dclient217-162-128-229.hispeed.ch (HELO gaxp1800) (217.162.128.229) by 0 with SMTP; 4 Aug 2002 15:52:49 -0000 Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 17:53:16 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Educational Reply-To: gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <177196016828.20020804175316@buz.ch> To: Wincent Colaiuta Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: Wanted: transparent HTTP proxy, capable of mapping domains to ports (or the evergoing quest for suid execution of PHP scripts) In-Reply-To: <749736D3-A7BA-11D6-A09F-003065C60B4C@mac.com> References: <749736D3-A7BA-11D6-A09F-003065C60B4C@mac.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello Wincent, Sunday, August 4, 2002, 4:57:11 PM, you wrote: > Call it overkill, but I do it with jails. One jail per customer. If a > customer has multiple domains, I put them all in the same jail. RIPE (European IP registry) won't allocate you IPs for virtual domains that could be hosted using name based vhosts. If I had the IPs for IP based vhosting, I'd sure as hell would go for a jailed solution! Best regards, Gabriel -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.0.2i iQEVAwUBPU0/4sZa2WpymlDxAQFVwQgAwRLa8WC0pZ/L6spdC9Xkbm7vTYv9cQqQ vwM7/Jbgp5XCDnfXssm2a7a0UzjaI9dxRXP9OvoAJbVi+g07SNAcMaK0vccWUZn+ WyP1/lCgiUAbvQKqAfg8XRTMxst8duUnDuPILMkWtpobpJKzulq9g1alN+zP8pLr krrLjjZyKN8HDy65ioEk3mU1TkV6urPQfj5RZ2ltsQ8CxtBSIwyqMZ8VnO/afRtU rqJmhit1vd9WmnisOrBNBA/7sg4qLY9RCNSGQOJKch2abq/nzjvyzwAFUh4U82lG q6A7A3o9AYDBZaqfYUCJClAF3laIWEIjC3bkaP9yqjr3e8WnFPqbSg== =Uvsc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Aug 4 11:45:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 68DC837B400 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 11:45:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from misery.sdf.com (misery.sdf.com [207.200.153.226]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50FB43E3B for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 11:45:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tom@sdf.com) Received: from tom (helo=localhost) by misery.sdf.com with local-esmtp (Exim 2.12 #1) id 17bPPR-00079U-00; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 10:43:17 -0700 Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 10:43:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Tom Samplonius To: Gabriel Ambuehl Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Wanted: transparent HTTP proxy, capable of mapping domains to ports (or the evergoing quest for suid execution of PHP scripts) In-Reply-To: <193190142171.20020804161521@buz.ch> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 4 Aug 2002, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > emulate the functionality of perchild. Basically, the idea is to run > distinct Apache instance for every domain on some arbritrary port > (say 2000+) and then have a transparent proxy on port 80 redirect > the requests to the correct port. I.e. something like: ... Squid can do this. It supports a reverse HTTP proxy mode, where it can take requests on a single IP, and translate named based requests to IP based requests. Typically what you do in this situation, is use internal IPs for the actual sites and single external IP for Squid. Quite often people run Squid on a different machine. Squid is very configurable in regards to caching. In a reverse HTTP cache, it makes the most sense to disable the disk cache, and just use RAM. Squid does not fork, so it serves requests pretty quickly. Tom To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Aug 4 11:52: 9 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1103237B400 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 11:52:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailout07.sul.t-online.com (mailout07.sul.t-online.com [194.25.134.83]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7540743E3B for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 11:52:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from fwd08.sul.t-online.de by mailout07.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 17bQU0-00074o-01; Sun, 04 Aug 2002 20:52:04 +0200 Received: from Andro-Beta.Leidinger.net (520065502893-0001@[217.229.211.114]) by fmrl08.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 17bQTk-0v04YaC; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 20:51:48 +0200 Received: from Magelan.Leidinger.net (Magelan [192.168.1.1]) by Andro-Beta.Leidinger.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g74Iplx17295; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 20:51:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Received: from Magelan.Leidinger.net (netchild@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by Magelan.Leidinger.net (8.12.5/8.12.5) with SMTP id g74IpkQE030593; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 20:51:47 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from Alexander@Leidinger.net) Date: Sun, 4 Aug 2002 20:51:46 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Gabriel Ambuehl Cc: isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Wanted: transparent HTTP proxy, capable of mapping domains to ports (or the evergoing quest for suid execution of PHP scripts) Message-Id: <20020804205146.150e9c22.Alexander@Leidinger.net> In-Reply-To: <193190142171.20020804161521@buz.ch> References: <193190142171.20020804161521@buz.ch> Organization: Independend X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.7.8claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Sender: 520065502893-0001@t-dialin.net Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 4 Aug 2002 16:15:21 +0200 "Gabriel Ambuehl" wrote: > Hello, > in the ever going quest to get secure CGI/PHP (that basically means > that PHP and CGI all have to run under the UID of the domain which > is hard as long to achieve for PHP without PHP as standalone > interpreter (slooow) I've put http://projects.marsching.org/suphp/ on my TODO list. I hadn't time to look at it, but it sounds if it is a step in the right direction. Anybody out there who has already looked at it? Bye, Alexander. -- 0 and 1. Now what could be so hard about that? http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net GPG fingerprint = C518 BC70 E67F 143F BE91 3365 79E2 9C60 B006 3FE7 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Sun Aug 4 19:37:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9563037B400 for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 19:37:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from digitaldaemon.com (digitaldaemon.com [63.105.9.34]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CF65D43E6E for ; Sun, 4 Aug 2002 19:37:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jan@digitaldaemon.com) Received: (qmail 89450 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2002 02:32:23 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO digitaldaemon.com) (192.168.0.220) by digitaldaemon.com with SMTP; 5 Aug 2002 02:32:23 -0000 Message-ID: <3D4DE53C.1040306@digitaldaemon.com> Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 22:38:52 -0400 From: Jan Knepper Organization: http://www.digitaldaemon.com/ User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.1b) Gecko/20020721 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: FreeBSD ISP Subject: firebird Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org For those interested... I've released the sources to firebird, the program I have used with success for about a year to report Worm Virus attacks. You will be able to find it at http://www.digitaldaemon.com/FreeBSD/firebird/ It should be a matter of a simple 'make' to get the program to compile. (C/C++) Than just follow the instructions on the page to get it working. Let me know how it works for you when you start using it. Thanks! Jan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 5 1:40:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 235FE37B400 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 01:40:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from spooky.eis.net.au (spooky.eis.net.au [203.12.171.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44AA343E3B for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 01:40:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ernie@spooky.eis.net.au) Received: from spooky.eis.net.au (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by spooky.eis.net.au (8.12.5/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g758ecwN079317 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 18:40:38 +1000 (EST) (envelope-from ernie@spooky.eis.net.au) Received: (from ernie@localhost) by spooky.eis.net.au (8.12.5/8.12.3/Submit) id g758ecnS079316 for freebsd-isp@freebsd.org; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 18:40:38 +1000 (EST) From: Ernie Elu Message-Id: <200208050840.g758ecnS079316@spooky.eis.net.au> Subject: Re: GUI based hosting server revisited To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 18:40:38 +1000 (EST) In-Reply-To: <8FD8CFF1-A644-11D6-AC1F-00039310D4BE@datapipe.com> from "Bryan Spina" at Aug 02, 2002 02:20:45 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL3] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Looks interesting, though it seem to be a hosting service rather than a bit of software you can buy. Or have I missed something? - Ernie. > > easyADMIN from datapipe.com > > http://www.easyadminservers.com > > runs on freebsd and linux > > > On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 11:06 PM, Ernie Elu wrote: > > > Two years ago I posed a question in this list: > > > > Is there any software around that will turn a FreeBSD system into a > > hosting > > server like a Cobalt Raq or Qube style system? > > > > I am looking for something so that helpdesk people can manage the > > addition > > of domains, websites etc. and the customer can get reports and manage > > their > > email system, extra boxes, vacation messages, forwading etc. all > > from a > > browser driven interface. > > > > - Ernie. > > > > > > I got a few suggestions the best were http://www.plesk.com and > > http://www.zeus.co.uk but neither of those do exactly what the Cobalt > > does > > from a clients perspective, specifically the /siteadmin stuff. > > > > I have an aging Cobalt fleet that needs replacing, and I would prefer > > to use > > FreeBSD servers like I use for other functions. Is there anything else > > around > > in client GUI now for FreeBSD? > > > > > > - Ernie. > > ernie@eis.net.au > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 5 2:50:42 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47B0A37B400 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 02:50:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.trident-uk.co.uk (mail.trident-uk.co.uk [195.166.16.10]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DECAF43E42 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 02:50:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jamie@mail.trident-uk.co.uk) Received: by mail.trident-uk.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 158FF251; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:50:24 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:50:24 +0100 From: Jamie Heckford To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Cc: Jamie Heckford Subject: OT: Piping with Postfix (Installed from ports) Message-ID: <20020805095024.GA30347@peac.pe.trident-uk.co.uk> Reply-To: jamie@tridentmicrosystems.co.uk Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Seem to be having a problem piping commands in the aliases file from postfix. I have this in my aliases file: # Request Tracker it-support: "|/usr/local/share/rt/bin/rt-mailgate support correspond" However, when I try and send something to the address it gives the following: Aug 5 10:49:54 cobain postfix/smtpd[9780]: warning: Illegal address syntax from localhost.pe.trident-uk.co.uk[127.0.0.1] in RCPT command: <|/usr/local/share/rt/bin/rt-mailgate support correspond@trident-uk.co.uk> Aug 5 10:50:04 cobain postfix/smtpd[9780]: warning: localhost.pe.trident-uk.co.uk[127.0.0.1] sent message header instead of SMTP command: Received: by mail.trident-uk.co.uk (Postfix, from userid 0) Aug 5 10:50:04 cobain postfix/smtpd[9780]: disconnect from localhost.pe.trident-uk.co.uk[127.0.0.1] Aug 5 10:50:04 cobain amavis[9775]: smtp quit returns Aug 5 10:50:04 cobain amavis[9775]: do_exit:414 - ending execution with 75 Aug 5 10:50:04 cobain postfix/pipe[9758]: 4A5BF152: to=<|/usr/local/share/rt/bin/rt-mailgate support correspond@trident-uk.co.uk>, relay=vscan, delay=10, status=deferred (temporary failure) Any clues? Thanks :-) -- Jamie Heckford Network Manager Trident Microsystems Limited t: +44(0)1737 780790 f: +44(0)1737 771908 http://www.tridentmicrosystems.co.uk/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 5 7: 0:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2761637B401 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 07:00:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: from hex.databits.net (hex.csh.rit.edu [129.21.60.134]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9CA4943E6E for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 07:00:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from petef@databits.net) Received: by hex.databits.net (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1610220F5D; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 10:00:10 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 08:00:10 -0600 From: Pete Fritchman To: Jamie Heckford Cc: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org, Jamie Heckford Subject: Re: OT: Piping with Postfix (Installed from ports) Message-ID: <20020805080010.C27899@absolutbsd.org> References: <20020805095024.GA30347@peac.pe.trident-uk.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20020805095024.GA30347@peac.pe.trident-uk.co.uk>; from jamie@tridentmicrosystems.co.uk on Mon, Aug 05, 2002 at 10:50:24AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ++ 05/08/02 10:50 +0100 - Jamie Heckford: | Hi, | | Seem to be having a problem piping commands in the aliases | file from postfix. | | I have this in my aliases file: | | # Request Tracker | | it-support: "|/usr/local/share/rt/bin/rt-mailgate support correspond" Weird, seems to work just fine here: From /etc/mail/aliases: noc: "|/usr/local/rt/bin/rt-mailgate --queue noc --action correspond" postfix-1.1.10,1 An alternative to widely-used Sendmail Is rt-mailgate executable? --pete -- Pete Fritchman [petef@(databits.net|freebsd.org|wyom.net)] finger petef@databits.net for PGP key To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 5 8:11:56 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B55A37B400 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 08:11:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ecotech.com.lr (mail.liberiaonline.com.lr [64.110.100.164]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9794D43E65 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 08:11:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from max@ecotech.com.lr) Received: (qmail 38937 invoked by uid 85); 5 Aug 2002 15:10:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wireless) (64.110.100.167) by mail.liberiaonline.com.lr with SMTP; 5 Aug 2002 15:10:10 -0000 Message-ID: <001a01c23c92$05e12c50$04ef10ac@wireless> From: "Max" To: Subject: Latency Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 16:08:50 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01C23C9A.62FF3DC0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C23C9A.62FF3DC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I have a bandwidth manager between my router and switch. It's a 800Mhz = P3 with 256M RAM. However, i am experiencing some latency when pinging = the router. I see as much as time=3D28.317 ms to the router while other = machine give time=3D0.196 ms typically. How do i work around this to = remove the latency effect or reduce it. Max ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C23C9A.62FF3DC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi,
 
I have a bandwidth manager between my = router and=20 switch. It's a 800Mhz P3 with 256M RAM. However, i am experiencing  = some=20 latency when pinging the router.  I see as much as time=3D28.317 ms = to the=20 router while other machine give time=3D0.196 ms typically. How do i work = around=20 this to remove the latency effect or reduce it.
 
Max
------=_NextPart_000_0017_01C23C9A.62FF3DC0-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 5 8:19:28 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C88C637B400 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 08:19:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.ecotech.com.lr (mail.liberiaonline.com.lr [64.110.100.164]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1D6C643E65 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 08:19:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from max@ecotech.com.lr) Received: (qmail 39108 invoked by uid 85); 5 Aug 2002 15:17:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO wireless) (64.110.100.167) by mail.liberiaonline.com.lr with SMTP; 5 Aug 2002 15:17:50 -0000 Message-ID: <006401c23c93$17cc9de0$04ef10ac@wireless> From: "Max" To: "John Hay" , "Kal Torak" Cc: "FreeBSD ISP" References: <200208010754.g717sax41664@zibbi.icomtek.csir.co.za> Subject: Re: Routing based on source? Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 16:16:36 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How? Max ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Hay" To: "Kal Torak" Cc: "FreeBSD ISP" Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 8:54 AM Subject: Re: Routing based on source? > > Hi all, > > > > I have a situation where I want to route packets out different > > interfaces based on their source ip address... I dont care about > > the destination in this case, only where its comming from.. > > > > Is this possible? And if so how? > > You can use ipfw fwd to do that. > > John > -- > John Hay -- John.Hay@icomtek.csir.co.za / jhay@FreeBSD.org > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 5 8:28:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7315B37B400 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 08:28:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.a1poweruser.com (oh-chardon6a-62.clvhoh.adelphia.net [68.65.175.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 65A4343E4A for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 08:28:06 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from barbish@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish (lanwin1 [10.0.10.6]) by smtp.a1poweruser.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D36A92E; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:32:04 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Joe & Fhe Barbish" To: "Ernie Elu" Cc: Subject: RE: GUI based hosting server revisited Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:28:04 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <200208050840.g758ecnS079316@spooky.eis.net.au> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Ernie you are correct. EasyAdmin is a service provided to Datapipe customers who are using Datapipe the host their environments. EasyAdmin as not a software product people can buy for use on there own environments. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Ernie Elu Sent: Monday, August 05, 2002 4:41 AM To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re: GUI based hosting server revisited Looks interesting, though it seem to be a hosting service rather than a bit of software you can buy. Or have I missed something? - Ernie. > > easyADMIN from datapipe.com > > http://www.easyadminservers.com > > runs on freebsd and linux > > > On Thursday, August 1, 2002, at 11:06 PM, Ernie Elu wrote: > > > Two years ago I posed a question in this list: > > > > Is there any software around that will turn a FreeBSD system into a > > hosting > > server like a Cobalt Raq or Qube style system? > > > > I am looking for something so that helpdesk people can manage the > > addition > > of domains, websites etc. and the customer can get reports and manage > > their > > email system, extra boxes, vacation messages, forwading etc. all > > from a > > browser driven interface. > > > > - Ernie. > > > > > > I got a few suggestions the best were http://www.plesk.com and > > http://www.zeus.co.uk but neither of those do exactly what the Cobalt > > does > > from a clients perspective, specifically the /siteadmin stuff. > > > > I have an aging Cobalt fleet that needs replacing, and I would prefer > > to use > > FreeBSD servers like I use for other functions. Is there anything else > > around > > in client GUI now for FreeBSD? > > > > > > - Ernie. > > ernie@eis.net.au > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 5 11:23:34 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D71837B400 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from post.xecu.net (post.xecu.net [216.127.136.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D21F43E42 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 11:23:30 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from andy@xecu.net) Received: from thunder.xecu.net (thunder.xecu.net [216.127.136.208]) by post.xecu.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8163A4AD1; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 14:23:19 -0400 (EDT) Received: by thunder.xecu.net (Postfix, from userid 100) id EFD2B250FF; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 14:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by thunder.xecu.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA31E250FC; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 14:23:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 14:23:12 -0400 (EDT) From: Andy Dills To: Max Cc: John Hay , Kal Torak , FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: Routing based on source? In-Reply-To: <006401c23c93$17cc9de0$04ef10ac@wireless> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 5 Aug 2002, Max wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > > > I have a situation where I want to route packets out different > > > interfaces based on their source ip address... I dont care about > > > the destination in this case, only where its comming from.. > > > > > > Is this possible? And if so how? > > > > You can use ipfw fwd to do that. > > > > John > > How? Hmm...I'm guessing you didn't bother to read the man page? fwd ipaddr[,port] Change the next-hop on matching packets to ipaddr, which can be an IP address in dotted quad or a host name. If ipaddr is not a directly-reachable address, the route as found in the local routing table for that IP is used instead. If ipaddr is a local address, then on a packet entering the system from a remote host it will be diverted to port on the local machine, keeping the local address of the socket set to the original IP address the packet was destined for. This is intended for use with transparent proxy servers. If the IP is not a local address then the port number (if specified) is ignored and the rule only applies to packets leaving the system. This will also map addresses to local ports when packets are generated locally. The search terminates if this rule matches. If the port number is not given then the port number in the packet is used, so that a packet for an external machine port Y would be forwarded to local port Y. The kernel must have been compiled with the IPFIREWALL_FORWARD option. So, in other words: ipfw add fwd ip from to any Andy xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Andy Dills 301-682-9972 Xecunet, LLC www.xecu.net xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Dialup * Webhosting * E-Commerce * High-Speed Access To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 5 13:39: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE01F37B400 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:39:02 -0700 (PDT) Received: from munkboxen.mine.nu (213-152-51-194.dsl.eclipse.net.uk [213.152.51.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9536843E42 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 13:38:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from munk@munkboxen.mine.nu) Received: from munkboxen.mine.nu (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by munkboxen.mine.nu (8.12.5/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g75LZihh024986 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 21:35:49 GMT (envelope-from munk@munkboxen.mine.nu) Received: (from munk@localhost) by munkboxen.mine.nu (8.12.5/8.12.3/Submit) id g75LZPhT024985 for FreeBSD-ISP@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 21:35:25 GMT Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 21:35:22 +0000 From: Jez Hancock To: FreeBSD ISP Subject: Re: firebird Message-ID: <20020805213522.A24947@munkboxen.mine.nu> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD ISP References: <3D4DE53C.1040306@digitaldaemon.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <3D4DE53C.1040306@digitaldaemon.com>; from jan@digitaldaemon.com on Sun, Aug 04, 2002 at 10:38:52PM -0400 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Aug 04, 2002 at 10:38:52PM -0400, Jan Knepper wrote: > For those interested... > I've released the sources to firebird Any chance of this making it to the freebsd ports collection? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Mon Aug 5 15:48:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E640237B400 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 15:48:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ren.sasknow.com (ren.sasknow.com [207.195.92.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0B6DC43E72 for ; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 15:48:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Received: from localhost (ryan@localhost) by ren.sasknow.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g75MmB525673; Mon, 5 Aug 2002 16:48:11 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from ryan@sasknow.com) Date: Mon, 5 Aug 2002 16:48:11 -0600 (CST) From: Ryan Thompson To: Max Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Latency In-Reply-To: <001a01c23c92$05e12c50$04ef10ac@wireless> Message-ID: <20020805163516.G99260-100000@ren.sasknow.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Max wrote to freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG: > Hi, > > I have a bandwidth manager between my router and switch. It's a > 800Mhz P3 with 256M RAM. However, i am experiencing some latency > when pinging the router. I see as much as time=28.317 ms to the > router while other machine give time=0.196 ms typically. How do i > work around this to remove the latency effect or reduce it. I don't think you've given nearly enough detail for anyone to answer your question. So, I'll answer with more questions. :-) I don't understand what is pinging what across what. An ASCII diagram of your network and a bit more description would help. First, what does this have to do with ISP-related FreeBSD discussions? (I'm not trying to be an ass. Knowing the answer to that would probably help answer your question). What do traceroutes between the affected machines show? Is it possible that your 28ms pings are going through your uplink? This is possible in some situations. "Bandwidth manager"? Would I be correct to presume that is a FreeBSD box using traffic shaping? (Again, more explanation is needed). Perhaps you've added a rule which inadvertantly adds latency (or reduces bandwidth, which also adds latency). Try reverting to an open ruleset to see if the problem disappears. If it does, your ruleset is at fault, and you should fix it, or perhaps post it to the list for a few suggestions. - Ryan -- Ryan Thompson SaskNow Technologies - http://www.sasknow.com 901 1st Avenue North - Saskatoon, SK - S7K 1Y4 Tel: 306-664-3600 Fax: 306-244-7037 Saskatoon Toll-Free: 877-727-5669 (877-SASKNOW) North America To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Tue Aug 6 9:52: 2 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5EBD37B4DC for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 09:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from wallace.webmatic.de (wallace.webmatic.de [212.78.99.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4239843E4A for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 09:51:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from freebsd@chef-ingenieur.de) Received: from ncc1701-mnga4ws.chef-ingenieur.de (guru.chef-ingenieur.de [212.78.97.166]) by wallace.webmatic.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 972747C25 for ; Tue, 6 Aug 2002 18:51:54 +0200 (CEST) Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20020806184705.00b15af0@mta.webmatic.de> X-Sender: freebsd@chef-ingenieur.de@mta.webmatic.de X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Tue, 06 Aug 2002 18:51:59 +0200 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG From: "Thomas Krause, CI" Subject: Experience with Intel S845WDI-E MB ? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, does anybody use this board? I think it's a functional server board. http://support.intel.com/support/motherboards/server/s845wd1-e/ Regards, Thomas. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 7 5:55:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14F9337B400 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 05:55:40 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iota.root-servers.ch (iota.root-servers.ch [193.41.193.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D61543E75 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 05:55:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gaml@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 22562 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 12:55:36 -0000 Received: from dclient217-162-128-229.hispeed.ch (HELO gaxp1800) (217.162.128.229) by 0 with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 12:55:36 -0000 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 14:56:07 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Educational Reply-To: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <4515979484.20020807145607@buz.ch> To: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Porting Apache 2 MPM perchild to FreeBSD. Raising funds? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I'm kinda annoyed that MPM perchild, the by far coolest feature of Apache 2, doesn't work on FreeBSD. Basically, perchild would allow it to have Virtualhosts running under different UIDs than the mainserver which, how I understand the docs, would mean that we'd finally be able to run PHP and other DSOs under the UID of the user the Vhost belongs to meaning the safe_mode/open_basedir hacks in PHP would be obsolote. I think most of the ISPs who use vhosts on this list would have a big interest in getting this feature to work ASAP because it results in *greatly* increased security for shared webhosting environments. Now as it stands, the perchild doesn't work on FreeBSD (neither does the multi threaded worker) because of some issues how threading is implemented on FreeBSD. Now as pointed out above, we'd very much like to use the perchild features ASAP and we'd be willing to pay a certain amount to get a working FreeBSD version of it (our in house knowledge as to threading under Unix isn't good enough to try on our own) but we assume that other parties might have interests to see this happen soon and thus would be willing to help funding the development (maybe the FreeBSD Foundation could coordinate the project? Considering that FreeBSD is THE open server OS, a working Apache2 with enhanced security should be in their interest, too). The changes would get merged into the Apache base tree, of course. So basically, I'm asking for comments on this and if there are any parties that would be willing to contribute funding to the project. Regards, Gabriel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 7 7:33:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23F4E37B400 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 07:33:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iota.root-servers.ch (iota.root-servers.ch [193.41.193.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D156243E7B for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 07:33:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gaml@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 28023 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 14:33:12 -0000 Received: from dclient217-162-128-229.hispeed.ch (HELO gaxp1800) (217.162.128.229) by 0 with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 14:33:12 -0000 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 16:33:44 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Educational Reply-To: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1421836046.20020807163344@buz.ch> To: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG, Emre Bastuz Cc: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re[2]: remote system upgrade In-Reply-To: <1027243495.3d3a7de78afea@webmail.emre.de> References: <20020721030144.GA865@lonerx> <1027243495.3d3a7de78afea@webmail.emre.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Emre Bastuz, you wrote. EB> Hi Ivan, EB> Zitat von LonerX : >> build the world I cannot find the way to 'make installworld' remotely. EB> the short answer to your question is: you _can_ type "make installworld" EB> while in multi user mode but you _should not_. EB> To be honest, I have done this a few times and everything worked fine. EB> Donīt sue me if your system gets messed up though :) I've been doing it all the time since 4.0 and I've never destroyed anything during it. I've had my shares of emergency drives to our colo, but never because of an update. Oh well once, but I suspect there went something different wrong as the console had shown a broken FS on /usr which a manual run of fsck fixed. I suppose you could patch the startup scripts to run make installworld in single user but why bother... Regards, Gabriel To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 7 9:38:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DE4037B400 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:38:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: from transport.cksoft.de (transport.cksoft.de [62.111.66.27]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9180243E5E for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:38:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ck@cksoft.de) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97B981FFD11; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 18:35:49 +0200 (CEST) Received: by transport.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 66) id EF2D21FFD13; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 18:35:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: by hirvi.cksoft.de (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 77AAC1B65A; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 18:35:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hirvi.cksoft.de (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2335B18E88; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 18:35:01 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 18:35:01 +0200 (CEST) From: Christian Kratzer To: Gabriel Ambuehl Cc: Subject: Re: Porting Apache 2 MPM perchild to FreeBSD. Raising funds? In-Reply-To: <4515979484.20020807145607@buz.ch> Message-ID: X-Spammer-Kill-Ratio: 75% MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS snapshot-20020300 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, On Wed, 7 Aug 2002, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > Hello, > I'm kinda annoyed that MPM perchild, the by far coolest feature of > Apache 2, doesn't work on FreeBSD. Basically, perchild would allow it > to have Virtualhosts running under different UIDs than the mainserver > which, how I understand the docs, would mean that we'd finally be able > to run PHP and other DSOs under the UID of the user the Vhost belongs > to meaning the safe_mode/open_basedir hacks in PHP would be obsolote. > I think most of the ISPs who use vhosts on this list would have a big > interest in getting this feature to work ASAP because it results in > *greatly* increased security for shared webhosting environments. [snipped] even with the Apache MPM functionality setting the userid for a virtualhost with AssignUserID and ChildPerUserID configuration options http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/perchild.html#assignuserid http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/perchild.html#childperuserid would preallocate a certain amount of worker threads for a certain userid. This would not be of any use for masshosting environments with hundreds of vhosts per server. With hundreds of vhosts per server all served by common server processes you can share the perhaps 10-20 servers for all vhosts. With MPM you would have to preallocate the servers. Not good. Of course for a a handfull of customers who all want to run the php module instead of the cgi this would be doable. For these kind of numbers of customers a jail setup is already an option today. Anyway I would think that the threading support in upcoming FreeBSD 5.0 should take care of the mpm stuff. just my 0.02$ Greetings Christian -- CK Software GmbH Christian Kratzer, Schwarzwaldstr. 31, 71131 Jettingen Email: ck@cksoft.de Phone: +49 7452 889-135 Open Software Solutions, Network Security Fax: +49 7452 889-136 FreeBSD spoken here! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 7 9:42:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12FF937B400 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:42:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: from cobra.acceleratedweb.net (cobra-gw.acceleratedweb.net [207.99.79.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A91F43E42 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 09:42:34 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from simon@optinet.com) Received: (qmail 13589 invoked by uid 106); 7 Aug 2002 16:35:28 -0000 Received: from 24-90-121-13.nyc.rr.com (HELO station1) (24.90.121.13) by cobra.acceleratedweb.net with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 16:35:28 -0000 From: "Simon" To: "Christian Kratzer" , "Gabriel Ambuehl" Cc: "isp@freebsd.org" Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 12:44:06 -0400 Reply-To: "Simon" X-Mailer: PMMail 2000 Professional (2.10.2010) For Windows 2000 (5.0.2195;2) In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Porting Apache 2 MPM perchild to FreeBSD. Raising funds? Message-Id: <20020807164234.6A91F43E42@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Jail is just too much work, doesn't work with quotas right, takes up more space, etc... Something like MPM for those few clients would rock. -Simon On Wed, 7 Aug 2002 18:35:01 +0200 (CEST), Christian Kratzer wrote: >Hi, > >On Wed, 7 Aug 2002, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > >> Hello, >> I'm kinda annoyed that MPM perchild, the by far coolest feature of >> Apache 2, doesn't work on FreeBSD. Basically, perchild would allow it >> to have Virtualhosts running under different UIDs than the mainserver >> which, how I understand the docs, would mean that we'd finally be able >> to run PHP and other DSOs under the UID of the user the Vhost belongs >> to meaning the safe_mode/open_basedir hacks in PHP would be obsolote. >> I think most of the ISPs who use vhosts on this list would have a big >> interest in getting this feature to work ASAP because it results in >> *greatly* increased security for shared webhosting environments. >[snipped] > >even with the Apache MPM functionality setting the userid for a >virtualhost with AssignUserID and ChildPerUserID configuration options > > http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/perchild.html#assignuserid > http://httpd.apache.org/docs-2.0/mod/perchild.html#childperuserid > >would preallocate a certain amount of worker threads for a certain >userid. This would not be of any use for masshosting environments >with hundreds of vhosts per server. > >With hundreds of vhosts per server all served by common server >processes you can share the perhaps 10-20 servers for all vhosts. > >With MPM you would have to preallocate the servers. Not good. > >Of course for a a handfull of customers who all want to run the php >module instead of the cgi this would be doable. For these kind of >numbers of customers a jail setup is already an option today. > >Anyway I would think that the threading support in upcoming FreeBSD >5.0 should take care of the mpm stuff. > >just my 0.02$ > >Greetings >Christian > >-- >CK Software GmbH >Christian Kratzer, Schwarzwaldstr. 31, 71131 Jettingen >Email: ck@cksoft.de >Phone: +49 7452 889-135 Open Software Solutions, Network Security >Fax: +49 7452 889-136 FreeBSD spoken here! > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 7 10:17:45 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 55E4E37B400 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iota.root-servers.ch (iota.root-servers.ch [193.41.193.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE8E443E70 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:17:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gaml@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 34916 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 17:17:39 -0000 Received: from dclient217-162-128-229.hispeed.ch (HELO gaxp1800) (217.162.128.229) by 0 with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 17:17:39 -0000 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 19:18:08 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Educational Reply-To: gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <1695388968.20020807191808@buz.ch> To: Christian Kratzer Cc: isp@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: Porting Apache 2 MPM perchild to FreeBSD. Raising funds? In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello Christian, Wednesday, August 7, 2002, 6:35:01 PM, you wrote: > would preallocate a certain amount of worker threads for a certain > userid. This would not be of any use for masshosting environments > with hundreds of vhosts per server. > With MPM you would have to preallocate the servers. Not good. Not such a big problem as it might seem. I did a test with Apache 1.3 and basically started 250 instances of it (each listening on a different port) each with 4 spare servers so about 1000 Apache processes and surprisingly enough, my 512MB machine wouldn't even start to swap and the CPU utilization by the many sleeping threads was barely noticeable (about 2% on the Athlon XP 1800) so this is a non issue. And our rule of thumb is to have about 100 customers per server, not so much because of performance issues (most servers have loads below 0.05) but because of reliability issues, i.e. if one machine goes down, you won't have 1000s of customers screaming but only a few. Judging by your emailaddress, I'd assume you're familiar with the original strato.de setup where they had some 100000s of domains on *one* Sun E10K. Sure it works but if something breaks, everything is down and with Strato, this happened plenty of times. > Of course for a a handfull of customers who all want to run the php > module instead of the cgi this would be doable. For these kind of > numbers of customers a jail setup is already an option today. IF you can convince RIPE to allocate you enough IPs which isn't that easy (well, they can't do anything against SSL hosts but only a very small minority of our customers needs those...) > Anyway I would think that the threading support in upcoming FreeBSD > 5.0 should take care of the mpm stuff. I hope so but I'll have to wait for DP2 until I can test as I don't want to get into broken snapshots and then wonder why something isn't working. Best regards, Gabriel -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.0.2i iQEVAwUBPVFIQ8Za2WpymlDxAQGXaAgAqNBBLk/RVQt9JEDkR+ZPOuCvU+/J3j94 g44+/LeliaIGXqMO3OKO34rvzuqN0q4wvsPYTEbXDj9Ei/xcX108I3272wDw3FjM CmuxSuCXuQ+/uI1UuSOh8dwUxNutFVmyN0U3kJIURLSVct91sElnUon+jT57IV03 ow5RPkcAPN/KybcjkWecLQi1t0Cq6FesCECjAcfmE+qEk/zoWf25gMUZx1eV+5Fn 7JCLWdMA0J/gaHom80Gf6jFDkBFRvX1UmxoClrnfL1pRe2WOgohLdcwHx8JzvhJI 8cs7DYQKQUy3MqEKc3ycz5hXSjBhhMbejrn60qsN73sbpIcTeBe7Fg== =N3jI -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 7 10:20:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7707437B400 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:20:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from iota.root-servers.ch (iota.root-servers.ch [193.41.193.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 34D4A43E7B for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 10:20:12 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gaml@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 34994 invoked from network); 7 Aug 2002 17:20:11 -0000 Received: from dclient217-162-128-229.hispeed.ch (HELO gaxp1800) (217.162.128.229) by 0 with SMTP; 7 Aug 2002 17:20:11 -0000 Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 19:20:40 +0200 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.60q) Educational Reply-To: gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <155540687.20020807192040@buz.ch> To: "Simon" Cc: "Christian Kratzer" , "isp@freebsd.org" Subject: Re[2]: Porting Apache 2 MPM perchild to FreeBSD. Raising funds? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello Simon, Wednesday, August 7, 2002, 6:44:06 PM, you wrote: > Jail is just too much work, doesn't work with quotas right, takes up more > space, etc... Exactly. It's a major PTIA to setup and maintain and an even bigger PITA is to get the IPs needed for this. > Something like MPM for those few clients would rock. We'd deploy it over our whole farm, rest assured. And if it turns out to be too slow (which I highly doubt, look at my other post), we'll throw more hardware at it. The security is well worth it. Best regards, Gabriel -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.0.2i iQEVAwUBPVFI28Za2WpymlDxAQF3IQgAo4syXC9JjGevvq/N7s+e9Djs/7COGJAk XUyetGRMMmEM1WIA8mmDiyNOFY1NaoKEB/BPzOa7j8z2bQYU5TqXkyMt8fNDBkZh YZAkDiDNbvouib0VXaDIts+p6wGi9RUhIMAykC3S9UAdhwqkKFMuuI9DdyubAqF6 iKyaVzryyU/OZsqwuZtNVpGT9rLzOazuj7fzGLw5P42R9YVh0Ee8P69eEwAlTaHR rz/TrGRSzABbk9cyPqTNeVMAvNKkdoBN8CmRPb05iXrsA8svW5Ckxi1x+3Px6feN 8ZfZer7G/Q6gFXRI6fUxamtLvhNC9svYX5eblIP62SGb7RyOS1JbRg== =ebAm -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 7 11:37: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1341D37B400 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:36:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.lambertfam.org (www.lambertfam.org [216.223.196.6]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B40543E3B for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 11:36:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from lambert@lambertfam.org) Received: from localhost.localdomain (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost.inch.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ACD123518E for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 14:34:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from laptop.lambertfam.org (unknown [10.1.0.2]) by mail.lambertfam.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1209C3515B for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 14:34:18 -0400 (EDT) Received: by laptop.lambertfam.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 4C82828B09; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 14:36:50 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 14:36:50 -0400 From: Scott Lambert To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: remote system upgrade Message-ID: <20020807183650.GA921@laptop.lambertfam.org> Reply-To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20020721030144.GA865@lonerx> <1027243495.3d3a7de78afea@webmail.emre.de> <1421836046.20020807163344@buz.ch> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1421836046.20020807163344@buz.ch> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Aug 07, 2002 at 04:33:44PM +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > Hi Emre Bastuz, > you wrote. > > EB> Hi Ivan, > > EB> Zitat von LonerX : > >> build the world I cannot find the way to 'make installworld' remotely. > EB> the short answer to your question is: you _can_ type "make installworld" > EB> while in multi user mode but you _should not_. > > I've been doing it all the time since 4.0 and I've never destroyed > anything during it. I suppose you could patch the > startup scripts to run make installworld in single user but why > bother... Another application for /etc/rc.early? hmm. -- Scott Lambert KC5MLE Unix SysAdmin lambert@lambertfam.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Wed Aug 7 19: 7:41 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07A5E37B400 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 19:07:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from opensrs.saignon.net (211.saignon.net [63.210.176.211]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 40FDC43E75 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 19:07:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tony@saign.com) Received: from frankenmobl (opensrs.saignon.net [63.210.176.211]) by opensrs.saignon.net (8.11.6/8.11.3) with ESMTP id g7824Aq99341 for ; Wed, 7 Aug 2002 19:04:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tony@saign.com) From: "Tony Saign" To: Subject: Radius, Proxy & WLAN authentication w/ FreeBSD Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 19:06:32 -0700 Message-ID: <000001c23e80$3770f1c0$1401a8c0@frankenmobl> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.3416 Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: <20020807183650.GA921@laptop.lambertfam.org> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Any recommendations? Would like to configure a caf=E9 style WLAN hotspot using FreeBSD. Thanks in advance, -Tony }-----Original Message----- }From: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG=20 }[mailto:owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Scott Lambert }Sent: Wednesday, August 07, 2002 11:37 }To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG }Subject: Re: remote system upgrade } } }On Wed, Aug 07, 2002 at 04:33:44PM +0200, Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: }> Hi Emre Bastuz, }> you wrote. }>=20 }> EB> Hi Ivan, }>=20 }> EB> Zitat von LonerX : }> >> build the world I cannot find the way to 'make=20 }installworld' remotely.=20 }> EB> the short answer to your question is: you _can_ type=20 }"make installworld" }> EB> while in multi user mode but you _should not_. }>=20 }> I've been doing it all the time since 4.0 and I've never destroyed }> anything during it. I suppose you could patch the }> startup scripts to run make installworld in single user but why }> bother... } }Another application for /etc/rc.early? hmm. } }--=20 }Scott Lambert KC5MLE =20 }Unix SysAdmin }lambert@lambertfam.org =20 } }To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org }with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message } To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 8 4:30:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5249537B406 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 04:30:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from relay3.kornet.net (relay3.kornet.net [211.48.62.163]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E9EA343E3B for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 04:30:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leaders06@kornet.net) Received: from hmm-qk8ib845m2w (61.73.155.54) by relay3.kornet.net; 8 Aug 2002 20:30:22 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to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Thu Aug 8 22:43:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96EFD37B400 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 22:43:44 -0700 (PDT) Received: from backup.dagupan.com (mailserver.dagupan.com [202.91.161.131]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CD1E43E72 for ; Thu, 8 Aug 2002 22:43:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from francisv@dagupan.com) Received: by mailserver.dagupan.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:46:05 +0800 Message-ID: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A985C4D2@mailserver.dagupan.com> From: francisv@dagupan.com To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Backup programs/scripts Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 13:45:56 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm currently looking for solutions to backup 2 remote (WAN/E1) servers and 5 local servers to a central tape repository. I've tried configuring Amanda but I have given up due to lack of documentation and frustration. --- francis a. vidal [bitstop network services] | http://www.bitstop.ph streaming media + web hosting | http://www.keystone.ph v(02)330-2871,(02)330-2872; f(02)330-2873 | http://www.kuro.ph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 9 6:12: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2954837B400 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 06:12:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: from firehouse.net (dsl-64-130-18-61.telocity.com [64.130.18.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 27E0B43E6A for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 06:12:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from alan-dated-1029330518.ccff25@clegg.com) Received: (qmail 74892 invoked by uid 85); 9 Aug 2002 13:08:39 -0000 Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 09:08:38 -0400 To: freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Backup programs/scripts Message-ID: <20020809090838.B69172@shazam.wetworks.org> References: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A985C4D2@mailserver.dagupan.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-md5; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="uZ3hkaAS1mZxFaxD" Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A985C4D2@mailserver.dagupan.com>; from francisv@dagupan.com on Fri, Aug 09, 2002 at 01:45:56PM +0800 From: "Alan B. Clegg" X-Delivery-Agent: TMDA/0.52 (Python 2.2 on FreeBSD/i386) X-TMDA-Fingerprint: 1CWDv2o1ZrQCUjJNTUWFEMAfAiA X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS perl-11 Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --uZ3hkaAS1mZxFaxD Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Unless the network is lying to me again, francisv@dagupan.com said:=20 > Hi, >=20 > I'm currently looking for solutions to backup 2 remote (WAN/E1) servers a= nd > 5 local servers to a central tape repository. I've tried configuring Aman= da > but I have given up due to lack of documentation and frustration. What did you find undocumented / frustrating about amanda? I've worked with it for years with no problems, and between www.amanda.org, the mailing lists and all of the FAQs out there, it's better documented than most commercial backup software. AlanC --=20 | Alan Clegg | Networks | Security | UNIX | 802.11 |=20 "you just have to be smarter than what you're working on." - Scott Lauren --uZ3hkaAS1mZxFaxD Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9U77WyJP8xSfQVdsRAtA9AJ481bVejN9s1VPmjJqbk1kIMiDhugCgwqJY 05S0dp3a5VOzh1OTYpGnrZk= =DUpv -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --uZ3hkaAS1mZxFaxD-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 9 7: 8:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206D337B400; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 07:08:21 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtp.a1poweruser.com (oh-chardon6a-62.clvhoh.adelphia.net [68.65.175.62]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21E0643E9E; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 07:08:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from barbish@a1poweruser.com) Received: from barbish (lanwin1 [10.0.10.6]) by smtp.a1poweruser.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 5A57D201; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:12:41 -0400 (EDT) Reply-To: From: "Joe & Fhe Barbish" To: "FBSDQ" Cc: Subject: WARNING - Apache "SCALPER" worm Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 10:08:18 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To fix, upgrade using current version of Apache FBSD ports. FreeBSD/Scalper - VIRUS DESCRIPTION Virus name: FreeBSD/Scalper Virus type: I_Worm Infected objects: SYSTEM Detected: 2002-07-01 Evilness: Potentially destructive (corrupts data while replicating) Description: FreeBSD/Scalper is a new worm with backdoor characteristics. It is spreading using an Apache web server exploit on FreeBSD systems. The worm size is 51,199 or 51,626 bytes, depending on the version. The "chunked encoding" exploit used by Scalper can cause arbitrary code execution on the target machine, with the privileges of the Apache web server process. This exploit was discussed in the Apache Security Bulletin from 20.06.2002When executed, Scalper scans for vulnerable servers, using a very large hard-coded list of IP classes. The first byte of the target IP address is taken from the build-in list (e.g.: 46, 47, 230); the second byte is randomly generated and for the last 2 bytes the worm generates all the possible values. Scalper attacks only FreeBSD 4.5 x86 systems, running Apache versions 1.3.20 and 1.3.22-24. Using a stack overflow type exploit, a small part of the worm code gets control and uploads an uuencoded copy of the worm on the infected system, as "/tmp/.uua" and then decodes it in "/tmp/.a". The worm kills any processes named ".a", sets the executable flag of the file "/tmp/.a" and executes it. The new process has the ".a" name and its privileges is the same as the Apache server process. After this, the worm opens the UDP port (2001) and listens for remote commands. The remote commands can be: execution of shell commands; TCP, UDP, DNS flooding; Denial of Services functions; mail sending (spam mail); mail addresses collecting; view of web pages and many more. In the case of mail address collecting, the worm scans for mail addresses in all the files from the infected machine (patterns that contain the '@' and '.' characters). However, the mail addresses ended in ".hlp" or ".gov" are ignored, as well as the "webmaster@mydomain.com" address. The Scalper process can be removed from memory, by killing the process called ".a" (kill -9 .a) Analyst: Daniel Bodorin - http://www.ravantivirus.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-isp Fri Aug 9 20: 0:49 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-isp@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E0D337B400 for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 20:00:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mailsrv.amplex.net (mailsrv.amplex.net [65.165.120.194]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53A1243E4A for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 20:00:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mark@amplex.net) Received: from markxp (65-165-120-240.amplex.net [65.165.120.240]) by mailsrv.amplex.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id g7A30bE40561 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128 bits) verified NO) for ; Fri, 9 Aug 2002 23:00:40 -0400 (EDT) From: "Mark Radabaugh" To: Subject: RE: Backup programs/scripts Date: Fri, 9 Aug 2002 23:00:39 -0400 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <10F29E27A956D511B0940050DA8D86A985C4D2@mailserver.dagupan.com> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-isp@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hi, > > I'm currently looking for solutions to backup 2 remote (WAN/E1) > servers and > 5 local servers to a central tape repository. I've tried > configuring Amanda > but I have given up due to lack of documentation and frustration. > > --- > francis a. vidal [bitstop network services] | http://www.bitstop.ph What do you need help with to get Amanda to work? We use it to do exactly what you want to do (actually more) and it works great. I'll grant you it's a little tough to set up but I think you will be happy with it once you get it working. Mark Radabaugh Amplex 419-720-3635 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-isp" in the body of the message