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Hello, java! How are you?

  It will be great to have 'WITHOUT_X11' knob in java/jdk13 port.
  Many people use this port only for Java Server Pages and other
  server-related tasks, such XML processing and other. For example, I
  never will use AppletViewer or any AWT/Swing-based Java program.

  Also, it will be great to have know for package only JRE part of
  JDK, for installing on many server at one site, for example. Is it
  possible to make such variation? I know about Sun License, but Sun
  distributes JRE without any problems by itself. If we forbid do
  DISTRIBUTE JRE package, it will be useful for transfer JRE from one
  computer to another.

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Does anyone know how to make Apache pass a request for a jsp to Tomcat?
I want to have any request for a .jsp file to go to Tomcat, but requests
for .html and .gif etc to be handled by Apache.

Or is this feasible? Should I just throw out Apache and use Tomcat's
built-in HTTP server?

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Rik,

> Does anyone know how to make Apache pass a request for a jsp to Tomcat?

That's what the 'mod_jk' Apache module does for Tomcat 3. Install the port 
www/mod_jk. The Tomcat 4 Apache module is not yet available as a port for 
FreeBSD.


Sincerely,

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| JavaWorld used to be a very good source of information, indeed. Haven't 
| visited it in a while, though.

The article seems reputable enough, and just compared Java with .Net.
The remark in question was in a sidebar interview.

| > I only worry that once they emulate Java, their monopoly leverage,
| > combined with Sun's mismanagement, could work to undermine Java's
| > success.
| 
| Well, my hope is that Sun will move even more towards Linux, BSD and 
| open-source. And Java does not only depend on Sun's management. Big companies 
| like IBM and Oracle are behind it as well. And the role open-source 
| organizations like Apache are playing becomes more and more important, too.

That's a good point.  If other big companies are committed, even if only
offer MS alternative, there's hope good sense will prevail in the end.

Please CC me for replies, thanks.

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[in reply to Laurence Sanford, Monday 18 March 2002 15:30]

> ===>  Building for jdk-1.3.1p6_2
> i386 Build started:   1.3.1-p6-lauasanf-020318-08:28
> ERROR: BOOTDIR does not point to a valid Java 2 SDK
>        Check that you have access to
>         /usr/local/linux-jdk1.3.1/bin/java
>        and/or check your value of ALT_BOOTDIR.

You have to install the binary "linux-jdk13" port, before building the 
native "jdk13". Apparently a working java environment is needed to build 
this port. (You can uninstall linux-jdk13 afterwards.)

A lot of people ask this question and I didn't understand it either the 
first time; CC-d to the maintainers of the jdk13 port (java@freebsd.org) 
so they can consider updating pkg-descr and the error message to include 
a hint to installing linux-jdk1.3.1 before building jdk13. :)

thanks!
walter

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Hi,

When I try to run some Java applications, such as Ant and Tomcat, I get
complaints that basically say the JAVA_HOME variable is not set
correctly.  I've fixed that in Tomcat by changing the scripts to set
JAVA_HOME themselves.  I'm prepared to do that with Ant as well, but
there has to be a better way.

I have set the export in my .bashrc file, but the scripts that run Ant
and Tomcat are sh scripts and JAVA_HOME does not seem to be passed to
them.  Does anyone have a clean way of getting JAVA_HOME set so a sh
script will pick it up?

~Rik
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Hello Rik,

Monday, March 18, 2002, 6:59:09 PM, you wrote:

RS> Hi,

RS> When I try to run some Java applications, such as Ant and Tomcat, I get
RS> complaints that basically say the JAVA_HOME variable is not set
RS> correctly.  I've fixed that in Tomcat by changing the scripts to set
RS> JAVA_HOME themselves.  I'm prepared to do that with Ant as well, but
RS> there has to be a better way.

RS> I have set the export in my .bashrc file, but the scripts that run Ant
RS> and Tomcat are sh scripts and JAVA_HOME does not seem to be passed to
RS> them.  Does anyone have a clean way of getting JAVA_HOME set so a sh
RS> script will pick it up?

RS> ~Rik

I didn't change the main tomcat script. The startup script that is
located in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/tomcat set some variables. Mine start
with this:
     JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/jdk1.1.8
     export JAVA_HOME
     JAVACMD="nice -5 $JAVA_HOME/bin/java"
     export JAVACMD
     TOMCAT_HOME=/usr/local/tomcat
     export TOMCAT_HOME

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On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 11:59:09AM -0600, Rik Scarborough wrote:
> I have set the export in my .bashrc file, but the scripts that run Ant
> and Tomcat are sh scripts and JAVA_HOME does not seem to be passed to
> them.  Does anyone have a clean way of getting JAVA_HOME set so a sh
> script will pick it up?
How about set it in your .profile file?
It works for me, and quiet annoying while building JDK ;)

With regards,
-Winard

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I have built the native 1.3 JDK (jdk-1.3.1p6_2) and have successfully
used the plugin with some Java applets in Mozilla 0.9.9.  But Mozilla
core dumps with signal 6 when I visit the page

  http://www.co-operativebank.co.uk/cgi-bin/Launch3.cgi?cust

Do other people get the same result?

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On Mon, Mar 18, 2002 at 11:19:51PM +0000, Richard Tobin wrote:
> I have built the native 1.3 JDK (jdk-1.3.1p6_2) and have successfully
> used the plugin with some Java applets in Mozilla 0.9.9.  But Mozilla
> core dumps with signal 6 when I visit the page
> 
>   http://www.co-operativebank.co.uk/cgi-bin/Launch3.cgi?cust
> 
> Do other people get the same result?

Have you tried without the plugin?  I.e., do you think this problem
is specifically plugin related?

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> Have you tried without the plugin?  I.e., do you think this problem
> is specifically plugin related?

Well, the page has a Java applet, so if I try without the plugin I get
the "Default Plugin" window.

I tried the appletviewer, and it does precisely nothing - just returns
to the prompt after a fraction of a second.  I tried the 1.2.2
appletviewer, and it claims there is no applet in the page, so maybe
the server is sending different pages depending on what it believes
the browser is.

Is there another way to run an applet outside the browser?

I guess I can investigate this a bit myself, but I'd like confirmation
that someone else gets the same problem.

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"Jose M. Alcaide" <jose@we.lc.ehu.es> writes:

> However, javavm dies with SIGSEGV and creates this error log:

> Unexpected Signal : 11 occurred at PC=0x2A0CB730
> Function=[Unknown.]
> Library=(N/A)
> 
> NOTE: We are unable to locate the function name symbol for the error
>       just occurred. Please refer to release documentation for possible
>       reason and solutions.
> 
> Current Java thread:
> 
> Dynamic libraries:
> Can not get information for pid = 66365

> # HotSpot Virtual Machine Error : 11
> # Error ID : 4F530E43505002D3

> Forte runs with JDK 1.4.0 on a colleague's Linux machine without problems.
> I am downloading JDK 1.3.1 just now, but I am a bit frustrated. Does
> anyone have any idea about the cause of this problem?

This is the same output I encountered trying to run an application I
wrote for Turbine on linux-jdk14, down to the Error ID.  See FreeBSD
problem report ports/35320 at

  http://www.FreeBSD.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=ports/35320

My Turbine code's been running fine with the native FreeBSD jdk131.

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Richard Tobin wrote:
> I have built the native 1.3 JDK (jdk-1.3.1p6_2) and have successfully
> used the plugin with some Java applets in Mozilla 0.9.9.  But Mozilla
> core dumps with signal 6 when I visit the page
> 
>   http://www.co-operativebank.co.uk/cgi-bin/Launch3.cgi?cust
> 
> Do other people get the same result?
> 

Yep,

takes a long time to load and eventually mozilla crashes, and in the 
logs it says java_vm died with signal 6.

(Mozilla 0.9.9, jdk 1.3.1 pl6, FreeBSD 4.4)

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Marc.
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Sorry for the length of this - I couldn't find a URL.

Is our SCSL version vulnerable?


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In building jdk13 I get the following error:

===>  Applying FreeBSD patches for jdk-1.3.1p6_2
===>  Configuring for jdk-1.3.1p6_2
===>  Building for jdk-1.3.1p6_2
i386 Build started:   1.3.1-p6-root-020319-12:09
ERROR: BOOTDIR does not point to a valid Java 2 SDK
       Check that you have access to
        /usr/local/linux-jdk1.3.1/bin/java
       and/or check your value of ALT_BOOTDIR.

Exiting because of the above error(s).
gmake: *** [sanity] Error 1
*** Error code 2

Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk13.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk13.
*** Error code 1

Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk13.

I have no other JDK version installed, and I got both the source
tarball and the patchset this morning (March 19) from their respective
homepages.  Supposedly this port has no dependencies.

Any help is greatly appreciated

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you dont have the mandatory linux jdk installed, correct?

On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Steve Tremblett wrote:

> In building jdk13 I get the following error:
> 
> ===>  Applying FreeBSD patches for jdk-1.3.1p6_2
> ===>  Configuring for jdk-1.3.1p6_2
> ===>  Building for jdk-1.3.1p6_2
> i386 Build started:   1.3.1-p6-root-020319-12:09
> ERROR: BOOTDIR does not point to a valid Java 2 SDK
>        Check that you have access to
>         /usr/local/linux-jdk1.3.1/bin/java
>        and/or check your value of ALT_BOOTDIR.
> 
> Exiting because of the above error(s).
> gmake: *** [sanity] Error 1
> *** Error code 2
> 
> Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk13.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk13.
> *** Error code 1
> 
> Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk13.
> 
> I have no other JDK version installed, and I got both the source
> tarball and the patchset this morning (March 19) from their respective
> homepages.  Supposedly this port has no dependencies.
> 
> Any help is greatly appreciated
> 
> 

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+---- John Utz wrote:
| you dont have the mandatory linux jdk installed, correct?

No I don't - installing it now.

Pardon my ignorance, but where is this mandatory requirement
documented?

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I have attached my first attempt in creating a port.  It will install
Tomcat 4.  I've gotten it running on my machine (FreeBSD 4.5, Java
1.3.1-p6).

I know the plist is not update.  I will try to get that updated in a
couple of days, but I'm swamped right now.  If someone beats me to it,
great.

Feedback would be appreciated as this is my first attempt.

~Rik
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in the mailing list of course :-)

it's probably somewhere more formal. like koster's or lewis's websites, 
but i cant recall.

i have held off building my own because i didnt want the hassle/polution
of installing the linux jdk.

but i cant really afford to wait for the jck blessed binary anymore.

i'll be starting this build adventure myself shortly.

On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Steve Tremblett wrote:

> +---- John Utz wrote:
> | you dont have the mandatory linux jdk installed, correct?
> 
> No I don't - installing it now.
> 
> Pardon my ignorance, but where is this mandatory requirement
> documented?
> 
> 

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+---- John Utz wrote:
| you dont have the mandatory linux jdk installed, correct?

After installing linux-jdk13 this error persists - any hints?

| 
| On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Steve Tremblett wrote:
| 
| > In building jdk13 I get the following error:
| > 
| > ===>  Applying FreeBSD patches for jdk-1.3.1p6_2
| > ===>  Configuring for jdk-1.3.1p6_2
| > ===>  Building for jdk-1.3.1p6_2
| > i386 Build started:   1.3.1-p6-root-020319-12:09
| > ERROR: BOOTDIR does not point to a valid Java 2 SDK
| >        Check that you have access to
| >         /usr/local/linux-jdk1.3.1/bin/java
| >        and/or check your value of ALT_BOOTDIR.
| > 
| > Exiting because of the above error(s).
| > gmake: *** [sanity] Error 1
| > *** Error code 2
| > 
| > Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk13.
| > *** Error code 1
| > 
| > Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk13.
| > *** Error code 1
| > 
| > Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk13.
| > 
| > I have no other JDK version installed, and I got both the source
| > tarball and the patchset this morning (March 19) from their respective
| > homepages.  Supposedly this port has no dependencies.
| > 
| > Any help is greatly appreciated
| > 
| > 
| 
| -- 
| 
| John L. Utz III
| john@utzweb.net
| 
| Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life
| 
| 
+---end quoted text---

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d'oh - my mistake please ignore

+---- Steve Tremblett wrote:
| +---- John Utz wrote:
| | you dont have the mandatory linux jdk installed, correct?
| 
| After installing linux-jdk13 this error persists - any hints?
| 
| | 
| | On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Steve Tremblett wrote:
| | 
| | > In building jdk13 I get the following error:
| | > 
| | > ===>  Applying FreeBSD patches for jdk-1.3.1p6_2
| | > ===>  Configuring for jdk-1.3.1p6_2
| | > ===>  Building for jdk-1.3.1p6_2
| | > i386 Build started:   1.3.1-p6-root-020319-12:09
| | > ERROR: BOOTDIR does not point to a valid Java 2 SDK
| | >        Check that you have access to
| | >         /usr/local/linux-jdk1.3.1/bin/java
| | >        and/or check your value of ALT_BOOTDIR.
| | > 
| | > Exiting because of the above error(s).
| | > gmake: *** [sanity] Error 1
| | > *** Error code 2
| | > 
| | > Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk13.
| | > *** Error code 1
| | > 
| | > Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk13.
| | > *** Error code 1
| | > 
| | > Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk13.
| | > 
| | > I have no other JDK version installed, and I got both the source
| | > tarball and the patchset this morning (March 19) from their respective
| | > homepages.  Supposedly this port has no dependencies.
| | > 
| | > Any help is greatly appreciated
| | > 
| | > 
| | 
| | -- 
| | 
| | John L. Utz III
| | john@utzweb.net
| | 
| | Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life
| | 
| | 
| +---end quoted text---
| 
| -- 
| Steve Tremblett
| Cisco Systems
| 
+---end quoted text---

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umm...

i am stupid. i havent even found the linux jdk yet. where is it? 

but as for your problem....

On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Steve Tremblett wrote:

> +---- John Utz wrote:
> | you dont have the mandatory linux jdk installed, correct?
> 
> After installing linux-jdk13 this error persists - any hints?
> 
> | 
> | On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Steve Tremblett wrote:
> | 
> | > In building jdk13 I get the following error:
> | > 
> | > ===>  Applying FreeBSD patches for jdk-1.3.1p6_2
> | > ===>  Configuring for jdk-1.3.1p6_2
> | > ===>  Building for jdk-1.3.1p6_2
> | > i386 Build started:   1.3.1-p6-root-020319-12:09
> | > ERROR: BOOTDIR does not point to a valid Java 2 SDK
> | >        Check that you have access to
> | >         /usr/local/linux-jdk1.3.1/bin/java
> | >        and/or check your value of ALT_BOOTDIR.

did you set BOOTDIR to point to the right place?

> | > Exiting because of the above error(s).
> | > gmake: *** [sanity] Error 1
> | > *** Error code 2
> | > 
> | > Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk13.
> | > *** Error code 1
> | > 
> | > Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk13.
> | > *** Error code 1
> | > 
> | > Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk13.
> | > 
> | > I have no other JDK version installed, and I got both the source
> | > tarball and the patchset this morning (March 19) from their respective
> | > homepages.  Supposedly this port has no dependencies.
> | > 
> | > Any help is greatly appreciated
> | > 
> | > 
> | 
> | -- 
> | 
> | John L. Utz III
> | john@utzweb.net
> | 
> | Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life
> | 
> | 
> +---end quoted text---
> 
> 

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> i am stupid. i havent even found the linux jdk yet. where is it? 

you can use the www.freebsd.org/ports page to search for ports.

it is in /usr/ports/java/linux-jdk13

> did you set BOOTDIR to point to the right place?

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Ports java/linux-jdk13 :)

On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 12:24:51PM -0600, John Utz wrote:
> umm...
> 
> i am stupid. i havent even found the linux jdk yet. where is it? 
> 
> but as for your problem....
> 
> On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Steve Tremblett wrote:
> 
> > +---- John Utz wrote:
> > | you dont have the mandatory linux jdk installed, correct?
> > 
> > After installing linux-jdk13 this error persists - any hints?
> > 
> > | 
> > | On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Steve Tremblett wrote:
> > | 
> > | > In building jdk13 I get the following error:
> > | > 
> > | > ===>  Applying FreeBSD patches for jdk-1.3.1p6_2
> > | > ===>  Configuring for jdk-1.3.1p6_2
> > | > ===>  Building for jdk-1.3.1p6_2
> > | > i386 Build started:   1.3.1-p6-root-020319-12:09
> > | > ERROR: BOOTDIR does not point to a valid Java 2 SDK
> > | >        Check that you have access to
> > | >         /usr/local/linux-jdk1.3.1/bin/java
> > | >        and/or check your value of ALT_BOOTDIR.
> 
> did you set BOOTDIR to point to the right place?
> 
> > | > Exiting because of the above error(s).
> > | > gmake: *** [sanity] Error 1
> > | > *** Error code 2
> > | > 
> > | > Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk13.
> > | > *** Error code 1
> > | > 
> > | > Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk13.
> > | > *** Error code 1
> > | > 
> > | > Stop in /usr/ports/java/jdk13.
> > | > 
> > | > I have no other JDK version installed, and I got both the source
> > | > tarball and the patchset this morning (March 19) from their respective
> > | > homepages.  Supposedly this port has no dependencies.
> > | > 
> > | > Any help is greatly appreciated
> > | > 
> > | > 
> > | 
> > | -- 
> > | 
> > | John L. Utz III
> > | john@utzweb.net
> > | 
> > | Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life
> > | 
> > | 
> > +---end quoted text---
> > 
> > 
> 
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> 
> Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life
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On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, GB Clark wrote:

> On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:07:45 -0600 (CST)
> John Utz <john@utzweb.net> wrote:
> 
> > in the mailing list of course :-)
> > 
> > it's probably somewhere more formal. like koster's or lewis's websites, 
> > but i cant recall.
> > 
> > i have held off building my own because i didnt want the hassle/polution
> > of installing the linux jdk.
> > 
> > but i cant really afford to wait for the jck blessed binary anymore.
> > 
> > i'll be starting this build adventure myself shortly.
> > 
> > On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Steve Tremblett wrote:
> > 
> > > +---- John Utz wrote:
> > > | you dont have the mandatory linux jdk installed, correct?
> > > 
> > > No I don't - installing it now.
> > > 
> > > Pardon my ignorance, but where is this mandatory requirement
> > > documented?
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> Hi,
> 
> You know that after you get the native JDK installed you can just nuke the Linux one right?

yups. know that.

> It is only needed for the compile.  Once we can get a binary JDK that dependence will go away.
> 
> GB
> 
> 

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On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 12:07:20PM -0600, Rik Scarborough wrote:

> I know the plist is not update.  I will try to get that updated in a
> couple of days, but I'm swamped right now.  If someone beats me to it,
> great.
> 
> Feedback would be appreciated as this is my first attempt.

Wonderful; it's very nice to have.

I noticed it fetches from the v4.0.3/bin/ release, and not the source.
While I suppose there's little difference in the ultimate byte code,
and getting v4.0.x/bin saves time, it would be nice to have the src as
well.  (Building from source is of course more difficult; there are
more dependencies; perhaps this is a later update to the port.)

A few picky comments; feel free to ignore completely:

  -- Am I mistaken that in pkg-descr, it should say that Tomcat 4 is
the reference implementation of the 2.3 (not just 2.2) specification?

  -- I know tomcat does not ship with a manager entry for
tomcat-users.xml, but would it make sense to just comment out all the
superfluous users?  I think it's safe as is, but I've always liked
that bsd does just a little more.

  -- Likewise, should the TOMCAT/conf/server.xml be swapped with the
noexamples version?  Users can do this by hand of course, and should
always take charge of their installations.  But I've always liked that
BSD takes a conservative approach to default installs.

  -- Should the default install set the <Logger> directory be to
"logs" in TOMCAT/logs, or perhaps something in /var/log/tomcat?
Again, users can change but what's the preference?  (I suggest
/var/log/tomcat since it might be on a different spindle, or faster,
better managed/archived, since other apps write to this central
place.)

What a wonderful port; thanks for doing this!  My comments were merely
meant to get ideas.  Ignore them if I've overlooked something.

-- 
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Georgia Institute of Technology

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On Tue, 19 Mar 2002 12:07:45 -0600 (CST)
John Utz <john@utzweb.net> wrote:

> in the mailing list of course :-)
> 
> it's probably somewhere more formal. like koster's or lewis's websites, 
> but i cant recall.
> 
> i have held off building my own because i didnt want the hassle/polution
> of installing the linux jdk.
> 
> but i cant really afford to wait for the jck blessed binary anymore.
> 
> i'll be starting this build adventure myself shortly.
> 
> On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Steve Tremblett wrote:
> 
> > +---- John Utz wrote:
> > | you dont have the mandatory linux jdk installed, correct?
> > 
> > No I don't - installing it now.
> > 
> > Pardon my ignorance, but where is this mandatory requirement
> > documented?
> > 
> > 
> 
Hi,

You know that after you get the native JDK installed you can just nuke the Linux one right?

It is only needed for the compile.  Once we can get a binary JDK that dependence will go away.

GB

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Steve Tremblett wrote:

> +---- John Utz wrote:
> | you dont have the mandatory linux jdk installed, correct?
> 
> After installing linux-jdk13 this error persists - any hints?


You can do something like

coral# cd /usr/ports
coral# make search name=jdk-1.3
Port:   jdk-1.3.1p6
Path:   /usr/ports/java/jdk13
Info:   Sun's Java Developers Kit
Maint:  java@FreeBSD.org
Index:  java devel
B-deps: XFree86-3.3.6_10 gettext-0.10.35_1 glib-1.2.10_5 gmake-3.79.1 
gtar-1.13.25 gtk-1.2.10_3 javavmwrapper-1.4 linux-jdk-1.3.1.02_1 
linux_base-6.1 m4-1.4_1 nspr-4.1.2 open-motif-devel-2.1.30 
pkgconfig-0.10.0 zip-2.3
R-deps: XFree86-3.3.6_10 gettext-0.10.35_1 glib-1.2.10_5 gtk-1.2.10_3 
javavmwrapper-1.4 nspr-4.1.2 pkgconfig-0.10.0 urwfonts-1.0

I tied all of this up into a shell script that I call search and then 
I don't have to cd into /usr/ports to do the lookup. Instead of 
search, you can also look up key=.

Kent


> 
> | 
> | On Tue, 19 Mar 2002, Steve Tremblett wrote:
> | 
> | > In building jdk13 I get the following error:
> | > 
> | > ===>  Applying FreeBSD patches for jdk-1.3.1p6_2
> | > ===>  Configuring for jdk-1.3.1p6_2
> | > ===>  Building for jdk-1.3.1p6_2
> | > i386 Build started:   1.3.1-p6-root-020319-12:09
> | > ERROR: BOOTDIR does not point to a valid Java 2 SDK
> | >        Check that you have access to
> | >         /usr/local/linux-jdk1.3.1/bin/java
> | >        and/or check your value of ALT_BOOTDIR.
> | > 
> | > Exiting because of the above error(s).
> | > gmake: *** [sanity] Error 1


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i just finished building p6

john#  /usr/local/jdk1.3.1/bin/java -version
java version "1.3.1-p6"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 
1.3.1-p6-spaz-020319-13:05)
Classic VM (build 1.3.1-p6-spaz-020319-13:05, green threads, nojit)


i watched the process, i am stunned by the complexity.

i had to do very little work to make this happen.

the two toughest parts where:

1. realizing that the linux-jdk was a port and not a package

2. getting registered at the java website.


i think this is wonderful and i should have done it months ago.

very, very, very, very good job!

thanks for all of your hard work!

johnu


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From: Mike Dewhirst <Dewhirst.M@UCLES.org.uk>

> the only reason the build fails is due to linux-jdk not being installed. It
> is required for jdk1.3.

If linux-jdk13 has been already installed, build of linux-jdk13 can
fail without the kernel loadble module for Linux emulation loaded.
Steve, confirm the `linux' module loaded with kldstat and load it with
kldload if not loaded.

Steve Tremblett wrote:

| i386 Build started:   1.3.1-p6-root-020319-12:09
| ERROR: BOOTDIR does not point to a valid Java 2 SDK
|        Check that you have access to
|         /usr/local/linux-jdk1.3.1/bin/java
|        and/or check your value of ALT_BOOTDIR.

  Kazuyuki Shudo	shudo@computer.org	http://www.shudo.net/

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From: Rasputin <rasputin@shikima.mine.nu>

> Sorry for the length of this - I couldn't find a URL.

The #00218 of Sun Security Bulletin is at:
  http://sunsolve.Sun.COM/pub-cgi/retrieve.pl?doc=secbull/218
We are also be able to find past bulletins at:
  http://sunsolve.sun.com/security

> Is our SCSL version vulnerable?

Probably.  The FreeBSD port of JDK 1.3.1 is based on the source code
of the plain 1.3.1, which is the newer one Sun provides as source
code.  The source code of 1.4.1 and even 1.3.1_02 has not been
released.


> ________________________________________________________________________________
>                     Sun Microsystems, Inc. Security Bulletin
>
> Bulletin Number:        #00218
> Date:                   March 18, 2002
> Cross-Ref:
> Title:                  Bytecode Verifier

> 2. Affected Releases

>    Solaris OE Production Releases
>
>      SDK and JRE 1.3.1_01 or earlier

>    Linux Production Releases
>
>      SDK and JRE 1.3.1_01 or earlier


  Kazuyuki Shudo	shudo@computer.org	http://www.shudo.net/

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Hi everyone,

What's the magic invocation to get the patchset on http://www.eyesbeyond.com/freebsddom/java/jdk13.html
to download?  Each time I submit the accept button, it simply redirects
back to http://www.eyesbeyond.com/freebsddom/java/index.html

It happens regardless of whether or not I have gone to Sun's page,
logged in and accepted the SCSL license.

Is the patchset available via any other means, or is there another way
to get the native JDK package?

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On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 12:05:42PM +1100, Matthew Hawkins wrote:
> What's the magic invocation to get the patchset on http://www.eyesbeyond.com/freebsddom/java/jdk13.html
> to download?  Each time I submit the accept button, it simply redirects
> back to http://www.eyesbeyond.com/freebsddom/java/index.html

What browser are you using?  Are you going through a proxy?  I know that
some people have problems under certain setups.

> It happens regardless of whether or not I have gone to Sun's page,
> logged in and accepted the SCSL license.

It has nothing to do with Sun's page :).

> Is the patchset available via any other means, or is there another way
> to get the native JDK package?

There is no other legal means to obtain it at the moment.

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On Tue, Mar 19, 2002 at 01:02:42PM -0500, Steve Tremblett wrote:
> +---- John Utz wrote:
> | you dont have the mandatory linux jdk installed, correct?
> 
> No I don't - installing it now.
> 
> Pardon my ignorance, but where is this mandatory requirement
> documented?

The port lists it as a build dependency, however it cannot automatically
install it for you due to the necessity of clicking on a license.  People
often miss the error message concerning this.

I'll try and think up something better at some point.

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On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 09:34:02AM +0900, shudo@computer.org wrote:
> From: Rasputin <rasputin@shikima.mine.nu>
> 
> > Sorry for the length of this - I couldn't find a URL.
> 
> The #00218 of Sun Security Bulletin is at:
>   http://sunsolve.Sun.COM/pub-cgi/retrieve.pl?doc=secbull/218
> We are also be able to find past bulletins at:
>   http://sunsolve.sun.com/security
> 
> > Is our SCSL version vulnerable?
> 
> Probably.  The FreeBSD port of JDK 1.3.1 is based on the source code
> of the plain 1.3.1, which is the newer one Sun provides as source
> code.  The source code of 1.4.1 and even 1.3.1_02 has not been
> released.

Shudo-san is completely correct here, although I would change the
"Probably" to "Definitely" :).  The SCSL source code base is earlier
than 1.3.1_01 which is listed as vulnerable.

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On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Greg Lewis wrote:
> What browser are you using?  Are you going through a proxy?  I know that
> some people have problems under certain setups.

I've used both Mozilla and Galeon, both currently now at the latest
released versions (0.9.9 and 1.2.0 respectively) though I've tried in
the past with earlier versions.  I've also tried with MSIE 6.

And yes, it's going through proxies - I have oops locally and the
workplace runs a larger squid proxy which I parent in oops.
Occasionally when they're working, squid will go through the upstream
providers proxies - usually they're not though (yay Telstra) so the
squid will go direct.  That's how life is in countries that have to pay
for bandwidth.

I cannot bypass the proxy due to firewall restrictions.

Is your CGI relying on particular headers being available?  I think the
squid proxy is still stripping some out.  Which ones would I need?

> It has nothing to do with Sun's page :).

I only added that as your page seems to indicate that one must first go
to Sun's download site, login and accept the SCSL before proceeding.

> There is no other legal means to obtain it at the moment.

Sun have some very unique and innovative business practices, I wonder if
this "make it difficult for customers to get our products" strategy will
catch on?  Hmm... I wonder how IBM feel about a FreeBSD native Java SDK?

Cheers,

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I found the cause of the core dump.  There are three errors in
j2sdk1.3.1/ext/plugin/oji-plugin/src/motif/jvm_natives/native.c.  In
each case, CallStaticObjectMethod is used instead of
CallStatic<something-else>Method.  Here is a diff (against the
FreeBSD-patched version).

*** work/j2sdk1.3.1/ext/plugin/oji-plugin/src/motif/jvm_natives/native.c.~1~   Wed Mar 20 01:35:04 2002
--- work/j2sdk1.3.1/ext/plugin/oji-plugin/src/motif/jvm_natives/native.c       Wed Mar 20 02:55:31 2002
***************
*** 590,596 ****
      jclass clz = (*env)->FindClass(env, "sun/plugin/navig/motif/Worker");
      jmethodID meth = (*env)->GetStaticMethodID(env, clz, "readHttpsURL",
                        "(Ljava/lang/Object;[BII)I");
!     return (jint)(*env)->CallStaticObjectMethod(env, clz, meth, this, buf, offset, len);
  }
  
  /*
--- 590,596 ----
      jclass clz = (*env)->FindClass(env, "sun/plugin/navig/motif/Worker");
      jmethodID meth = (*env)->GetStaticMethodID(env, clz, "readHttpsURL",
                        "(Ljava/lang/Object;[BII)I");
!     return (jint)(*env)->CallStaticIntMethod(env, clz, meth, this, buf, offset, len);
  }
  
  /*
***************
*** 605,611 ****
      jclass clz = (*env)->FindClass(env, "sun/plugin/navig/motif/Worker");
      jmethodID meth = (*env)->GetStaticMethodID(env, clz, "bytesAvailable",
                        "(Ljava/lang/Object;)I");
!     return (jint)(*env)->CallStaticObjectMethod(env, clz, meth, this);
  }
  
  /*
--- 605,611 ----
      jclass clz = (*env)->FindClass(env, "sun/plugin/navig/motif/Worker");
      jmethodID meth = (*env)->GetStaticMethodID(env, clz, "bytesAvailable",
                        "(Ljava/lang/Object;)I");
!     return (jint)(*env)->CallStaticIntMethod(env, clz, meth, this);
  }
  
  /*
***************
*** 623,629 ****
                        "(Ljava/lang/Object;)V");
      jfieldID nativeConnID = (*env)->GetFieldID(env, isClass, "nativeConnection", "J");
  
!     (*env)->CallStaticObjectMethod(env, clz, meth, is);
  
      /* 
         It is extremely important to unset the nativeConnection field in 
--- 623,629 ----
                        "(Ljava/lang/Object;)V");
      jfieldID nativeConnID = (*env)->GetFieldID(env, isClass, "nativeConnection", "J");
  
!     (*env)->CallStaticVoidMethod(env, clz, meth, is);
  
      /* 
         It is extremely important to unset the nativeConnection field in 


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On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 03:20:47AM +0000, Richard Tobin wrote:
> I found the cause of the core dump.  There are three errors in
> j2sdk1.3.1/ext/plugin/oji-plugin/src/motif/jvm_natives/native.c.  In
> each case, CallStaticObjectMethod is used instead of
> CallStatic<something-else>Method.  Here is a diff (against the
> FreeBSD-patched version).

Thanks Richard!

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* Matthew Hawkins <matthew@topic.com.au> [020320 08:59]:
> On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Greg Lewis wrote:
> > What browser are you using?  Are you going through a proxy?  I know that
> > some people have problems under certain setups.
> 
> I've used both Mozilla and Galeon, both currently now at the latest
> released versions (0.9.9 and 1.2.0 respectively) though I've tried in
> the past with earlier versions.  I've also tried with MSIE 6.

I've got it down successfully using Mozilla since about 0.9.2, sobrowser should be fine.

> And yes, it's going through proxies - I have oops locally and the
> workplace runs a larger squid proxy which I parent in oops.
> Occasionally when they're working, squid will go through the upstream
> providers proxies

> I cannot bypass the proxy due to firewall restrictions.

Bypass 'oops' then - a squid proxy doesn't cause the problem you're seeing.

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On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 03:20:47AM +0000, Richard Tobin wrote:
> I found the cause of the core dump.  There are three errors in
> j2sdk1.3.1/ext/plugin/oji-plugin/src/motif/jvm_natives/native.c.  In
> each case, CallStaticObjectMethod is used instead of
> CallStatic<something-else>Method.  Here is a diff (against the
> FreeBSD-patched version).

Just curious, what methodology did you use to track this down ?

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* Greg Lewis <glewis@eyesbeyond.com> [020320 08:59]:

> On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 09:34:02AM +0900, shudo@computer.org wrote:

> > The #00218 of Sun Security Bulletin is at:
> >   http://sunsolve.Sun.COM/pub-cgi/retrieve.pl?doc=secbull/218

> > Probably.  The FreeBSD port of JDK 1.3.1 is based on the source code
> > of the plain 1.3.1, which is the newer one Sun provides as source
> > code.  The source code of 1.4.1 and even 1.3.1_02 has not been
> > released.
> 
> Shudo-san is completely correct here, although I would change the
> "Probably" to "Definitely" :).  The SCSL source code base is earlier
> than 1.3.1_01 which is listed as vulnerable.

That's what I thought. Have we got a contact at Sun who could give us some
more detail or where the bug is, or release a new SCSL bundle
(although I expect that would be a pig from the patchset maintainers point
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Hi,

As I have been unable to contact the original author
of FreeBSD java commapi, I have made it, both the original
source and current version of port available at
www.syncrontech.org for anyone that is interested in it.

The original code was not written by me, but it is under=20
BSD license. There are some fixes related to current JDK
versions inside the freebsd port makefile, so please use
it to build the package if you download it (I'm planning
to release a new version of base package which has these
fixes in it).

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Hello all,

    I'm attempting to install the jdk13, and finding the linux-jdk13 was
a dependency (for booting), attempted to install that.  After unpacking
the sources, it bombed out looking for a patch file (none mentioned) and
failed to create a directory.  Anybody give me some hints about the
patch requested for the linux-jdk13 patch, or other info on that build?

Sam


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> Just curious, what methodology did you use to track this down ?

"Reading the error messages".

It turned out that Mozilla was printing out a stack backtrace before
dying, which I didn't see at first because it was going to /dev/ttyv0
(I started mozilla from a twm menu).  It was fairly easy to track down
the function in question, and then it was just a matter of staring at
the code.

It would have been a lot quicker if I could work out how to rebuild
just the (very small) relevant parts of the JDK after making an edit,
rather than waiting while it does a bunch of Java compilations.

-- Richard

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Ari,

I am the original author of the serial portion of the java commapi port for
FreeBSD. Jean-Michel Dricot was in the process of starting up the port for
FreeBSD but had no code yet.  I already had a working serial implementation
for FreeBSD that I developed for a GPS application. I donated it to the
project so that he could finish the parallel portion of it.

I know that it has gone through several revisions, but if you need help with
something, let me know.  My contact info is below.

Regards,
GRS
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Hi,

As I have been unable to contact the original author
of FreeBSD java commapi, I have made it, both the original
source and current version of port available at
www.syncrontech.org for anyone that is interested in it.

The original code was not written by me, but it is under 
BSD license. There are some fixes related to current JDK
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it to build the package if you download it (I'm planning
to release a new version of base package which has these
fixes in it).

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On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 04:02:30PM +0200, Ari Suutari wrote:
> As I have been unable to contact the original author
> of FreeBSD java commapi, I have made it, both the original
> source and current version of port available at
> www.syncrontech.org for anyone that is interested in it.
> 
> The original code was not written by me, but it is under 
> BSD license. There are some fixes related to current JDK
> versions inside the freebsd port makefile, so please use
> it to build the package if you download it (I'm planning
> to release a new version of base package which has these
> fixes in it).

Thanks Ari!  Good to see this being maintained.

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On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 03:09:32PM +0000, Richard Tobin wrote:
...
> It turned out that Mozilla was printing out a stack backtrace before
> dying, which I didn't see at first because it was going to /dev/ttyv0
> (I started mozilla from a twm menu).  It was fairly easy to track down
> the function in question, and then it was just a matter of staring at
> the code.

What you did was good and very perceptive.

> It would have been a lot quicker if I could work out how to rebuild
> just the (very small) relevant parts of the JDK after making an edit,
> rather than waiting while it does a bunch of Java compilations.

Just go into the make system subtree for that section and recompile it.
That generally works and is what I was doing to propagate changes in
the hpi/ library and I would think something like that would also exist
for the Motif/awt layer.

...

Debugging the Java runtime is just shear hell which is why I was curious
as to how you figured it out that quickly. Understanding runtime typing
system and related JNI glue stubs is just flat out non-trivial, which is
what you were dealing within the Motif layer. Somebody should write a
primer on virtual machines and the supporting JNI layer.

I personally haven't seen much of the code in that section so I can't
gauge how obvious the bug was relative to rest of the code, but having
other people like you that can fix those things is good since I know
now that a single person can't do the entire JVM port alone properly.
That frees up developers to work on other things.

I'll have to look at it some time to get an idea of what's going on...  :-)

"HotSpot"

BTW, HotSpot is getting closer. I've delete all of the Solaris LWP code
rather carefully and what's left is:

[OS glue layer]

1) There's a couple of problems with interruptable IO that are a bit
semantically confusing such as the SYSV and BSD behaviors of a syscall
during the delivery of a signal. Should it return EINT like in SYSV ?

I'm going to have to look at the libc_r system to see how async IO
wrappers are collected and the signaling behavior.

2) Fill in all the pthreads creation related code and get rid of all the
Solaris-isms.

This is the least complete of the sections, but is what I'm going to
work on next.

[CPU/architecture specifics]

3) Safe-point handling that deals with exceptions thrown in the middle of
a JIT block still needs to be fully understood and verified. The call back
framework during SIGUSR1 supporting the manipulation of ucontext_t's
is now done. That supports the safe-point system.

This section is almost complete after the work I've done over the last
couple of days.


That's all. ;-)

bill


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> [OS glue layer]
> 
> 1) There's a couple of problems with interruptable IO that are a bit
> semantically confusing such as the SYSV and BSD behaviors of a syscall
> during the delivery of a signal. Should it return EINT like in SYSV ?

Define what you mean by 'interruptible' IO?  Do you mean select/poll, or
asynchronous IO?  I don't believe BSD allows one to 'interrupt' an IO
system call, so I'm not sure what you're asking.

If you're taking about asynchronous IO, all if the details are in the
green threads code, and/or the libc_r code.  There are many ways of
dealing with them, and it's not too difficult to figure it out once you
get the hang of it.  The bear is making sure you handle *ALL* the corner
cases. :(

> [CPU/architecture specifics]
> 
> 3) Safe-point handling that deals with exceptions thrown in the middle of
> a JIT block still needs to be fully understood and verified. The call back
> framework during SIGUSR1 supporting the manipulation of ucontext_t's
> is now done. That supports the safe-point system.
> 
> This section is almost complete after the work I've done over the last
> couple of days.

And where is that work, pray tell?


Nate

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I'm trying to do some research for an article I'm writing and I found the
following news blurb,
http://daily.daemonnews.org/view_story.php3?story_id=2602.

What is the state of getting a binary only version of the JDK for FBSD?

What can I do to help?

What are realistic goals to make this happen?

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> What is the state of getting a binary only version of the JDK for FBSD?

In testing right now.

> What can I do to help?

Not a whole lot.  Testing is a one-person job.

> What are realistic goals to make this happen?

Getting the tests complete, and if there are problems, to have these
problems fixed.  The latter requires the test results, which haven't
been completed.

Sorry, that's the best I can do as far as information goes......



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Nate Williams writes:
 > > What is the state of getting a binary only version of the JDK for FBSD?
 > 
 > In testing right now.
 > 
 > > What can I do to help?
 > 
 > Not a whole lot.  Testing is a one-person job.
 > 
 > > What are realistic goals to make this happen?
 > 
 > Getting the tests complete, and if there are problems, to have these
 > problems fixed.  The latter requires the test results, which haven't
 > been completed.
 > 
 > Sorry, that's the best I can do as far as information goes......

Can you tell us anything about the state of these test (e.g., "there
are 678 tests and we pass 234 of them"), or maybe an ETA on a binary
version?

Just curious.

--
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>  > > What is the state of getting a binary only version of the JDK for FBSD?
>  > 
>  > In testing right now.
>  > 
>  > > What can I do to help?
>  > 
>  > Not a whole lot.  Testing is a one-person job.
>  > 
>  > > What are realistic goals to make this happen?
>  > 
>  > Getting the tests complete, and if there are problems, to have these
>  > problems fixed.  The latter requires the test results, which haven't
>  > been completed.
>  > 
>  > Sorry, that's the best I can do as far as information goes......
> 
> Can you tell us anything about the state of these test (e.g., "there
> are 678 tests and we pass 234 of them"), or maybe an ETA on a binary
> version?

Unfortunately, no.  I'm not the one doing the tests.  If that person
wants to say something, then I'll let them.  I can say that things are
looking pretty good, but to put a deadline on something that has taken
*way too long* (no fault of anyone) due to all of the issues (licensing,
access, licensing, free time, etc...), waiting a bit longer surely won't
make that much difference.

However, having been involved with this probject, I can say that *IF*
something is said, then expectations get much higher, and if they are
not met people get upset.  So, if the posting are made using vague
generalities, the userbase can't be disappointed, since there are no
expectations.  Everything that gets done is a huge suprise that makes
everyone happy, both developers and users. :) :) :) :)



Nate

ps. In case it wasn't obvious, the above was a tiny bit of seriousness
wrapped up with a lot of sarcasm with the intent of being humerous.

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On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Rasputin wrote:
> Bypass 'oops' then - a squid proxy doesn't cause the problem you're seeing.

I thought I mentioned one of the browsers was going directly through
squid?  In this particular case, squid does cause the problem
(the anonymize_headers param is weeding out some things the CGI needs)

Thanks everyone and especially Greg Lewis for the help.

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Just installed, works great... It would be nice to have this port included
in the FreeBSD ports tree.

-Pablo


> Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2002 16:02:30 +0200
> From: Ari Suutari <ari.suutari@syncrontech.com>
> Subject: Java Commapi website
>
> Hi,
>
> As I have been unable to contact the original author
> of FreeBSD java commapi, I have made it, both the original
> source and current version of port available at
> www.syncrontech.org for anyone that is interested in it.
>
> The original code was not written by me, but it is under=20
> BSD license. There are some fixes related to current JDK
> versions inside the freebsd port makefile, so please use
> it to build the package if you download it (I'm planning
> to release a new version of base package which has these
> fixes in it).
>
> =09Ari S.
> - --
> =09Syncron Tech Oy, Finland
>


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On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 01:26:29PM -0700, Nate Williams wrote:
> Define what you mean by 'interruptible' IO?  Do you mean select/poll, or
> asynchronous IO?  I don't believe BSD allows one to 'interrupt' an IO
> system call, so I'm not sure what you're asking.

I already know that BSDs don't do that after reading a faq on glibc. I was
looking for the definition of UESP verses ESP on x86 architectures under
Solaris and Linux at that time. (UESP is a machine pseudo register to
simulate and exception stack I'm assuming. Please correct me if I'm wrong.)

The current interruptable IO wrapper is a macro that has a jmpbuf which
loops back before the IO syscall when a SIGUSR1 is delivered to it and
then used it to return an OS_INTRPT, when the syscall block reexecuted.

It's kind of funny way of dealing with EINTRs and I suspect that they did
that to avoid dealing with syscall return value specifics. I'm not sure
how valid that is for FreeBSD. I wonder if I can do something else to get
around using this rather hackish macro and if the return valids of those
functions would be sufficient for reporting interrupts thrown by a Unix
signal. That's currently under examination.

The basic thing here is to handle the delivery of a SIGUSR1 to a thread
in a syscall, interrupt the current operation and report that event/happening
in methodical way so that's it is known to the language runtime...

> If you're taking about asynchronous IO, all if the details are in the
> green threads code, and/or the libc_r code.  There are many ways of
> dealing with them, and it's not too difficult to figure it out once you
> get the hang of it.  The bear is making sure you handle *ALL* the corner
> cases. :(

I'm going to start looking at that pretty soon after I finish with reviewing
what I've done so far and answer various questions about safe-points and
exceptions that are indeterminant in my mind. It's pretty wacky stuff.

> > [CPU/architecture specifics]
> > 
> > 3) Safe-point handling that deals with exceptions thrown in the middle of
> > a JIT block still needs to be fully understood and verified. The call back
> > framework during SIGUSR1 supporting the manipulation of ucontext_t's
> > is now done. That supports the safe-point system.
> > 
> > This section is almost complete after the work I've done over the last
> > couple of days.
> 
> And where is that work, pray tell?

On my local machine ? you want it commited ? It's pretty sloppy at this time.

I'm done with the machine aspects of this section, but I need to verify how
the rest of the supporting functions and the higher level calling functions
use this stuff in a conceptually clear way. The potential problems could be
subtle and I want to fully understand this so that I can track bugs down
effectively. As you know, this is an insanely complicated and large system.

In my opinion, prevention is better than a brute force search of potential
bugs in case like this. Maybe I'm being overall cautious about this, eh ?

;-)

bill


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On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 03:33:01PM -0800, Bill Huey wrote:
> I already know that BSDs don't do that after reading a faq on glibc. I was
> looking for the definition of UESP verses ESP on x86 architectures under
> Solaris and Linux at that time. (UESP is a machine pseudo register to
> simulate and exception stack I'm assuming. Please correct me if I'm wrong.)

Sorry, I mean that I'm assuming that UESP and ESP are the thread stack and
exception stack respectively.

;-)

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> > Define what you mean by 'interruptible' IO?  Do you mean select/poll, or
> > asynchronous IO?  I don't believe BSD allows one to 'interrupt' an IO
> > system call, so I'm not sure what you're asking.
> 
> I already know that BSDs don't do that after reading a faq on glibc.

I wasn't aware that Linux/Solaris allow interrupting IO syscalls
(especially Linux).  Does M$ also allow one to interrupt syscalls?
(This is news to me!)

> I was looking for the definition of UESP verses ESP on x86
> architectures under Solaris and Linux at that time. (UESP is a machine
> pseudo register to simulate and exception stack I'm assuming. Please
> correct me if I'm wrong.)

I know nothing about Linux, and very little about Solaris.

> The current interruptable IO wrapper is a macro that has a jmpbuf
> which loops back before the IO syscall when a SIGUSR1 is delivered to
> it and then used it to return an OS_INTRPT, when the syscall block
> reexecuted.

This kind of thing doesn't sound portable at all.  I wonder how OS-X
does things?

> It's kind of funny way of dealing with EINTRs and I suspect that they did
> that to avoid dealing with syscall return value specifics. I'm not sure
> how valid that is for FreeBSD. I wonder if I can do something else to get
> around using this rather hackish macro and if the return valids of those
> functions would be sufficient for reporting interrupts thrown by a Unix
> signal. That's currently under examination.

It seems to me that it's not even necessary, since syscalls can't be
interrupted, you have nothing to handle.  Unless I'm misunderstanding
what you're saying.

> The basic thing here is to handle the delivery of a SIGUSR1 to a
> thread in a syscall

See above.  You can't interrupt an IO syscall in BSDs.  However, that
may change in 5.0, but that's a ways off, so it may end up being a 6.0
feature.

> > > This section is almost complete after the work I've done over the last
> > > couple of days.
> > 
> > And where is that work, pray tell?
> 

> On my local machine ? you want it commited ? It's pretty sloppy at
> this time.

How about making diffs available for folks to review?

> I'm done with the machine aspects of this section, but I need to verify how
> the rest of the supporting functions and the higher level calling functions
> use this stuff in a conceptually clear way. The potential problems could be
> subtle and I want to fully understand this so that I can track bugs down
> effectively. As you know, this is an insanely complicated and large system.
> 
> In my opinion, prevention is better than a brute force search of potential
> bugs in case like this. Maybe I'm being overall cautious about this, eh ?

I don't think it's possible to be too cautious at this point. :)


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Hello all,

    Subject says it all.  I have an application that needs a JVM of 1.2
or later.  I know absolutely nothing about java, and have tried
unsuccesfully to build the jdk-13, linux-jdk13 etc., ad-nauseum, and
have become frustrated.  What is the absolute minimum stuff I need to
support the JVM 1.2, and I think Tomcat is now being used for the
servelet.  Any pointers on why the ports won't build would also be
appreciated.  The linux-jdk13 is looking for glibc_2.2, which is not
called out in the dependencies, and I don't have it.

Many thanks..

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i built the native 1.31 jdk yesterday

1. install ports.tar.gz on your machine

cd to the linux-jdk13 port and type make install

it will tell you what to do.

once thats finished, cd to the jdk-13 port and do the same

is this what you did?

On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Sam wrote:

> Hello all,
> 
>     Subject says it all.  I have an application that needs a JVM of 1.2
> or later.  I know absolutely nothing about java, and have tried
> unsuccesfully to build the jdk-13, linux-jdk13 etc., ad-nauseum, and
> have become frustrated.  What is the absolute minimum stuff I need to
> support the JVM 1.2, and I think Tomcat is now being used for the
> servelet.  Any pointers on why the ports won't build would also be
> appreciated.  The linux-jdk13 is looking for glibc_2.2, which is not
> called out in the dependencies, and I don't have it.
> 
> Many thanks..
> 
> Sam
> 
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You probably have to install linux_base. With this you should be able to 
install linux-jdk13. Then try jdk131. 

> Hello all,
> 
>     Subject says it all.  I have an application that needs a JVM of 1.2
> or later.  I know absolutely nothing about java, and have tried
> unsuccesfully to build the jdk-13, linux-jdk13 etc., ad-nauseum, and
> have become frustrated.  What is the absolute minimum stuff I need to
> support the JVM 1.2, and I think Tomcat is now being used for the
> servelet.  Any pointers on why the ports won't build would also be
> appreciated.  The linux-jdk13 is looking for glibc_2.2, which is not
> called out in the dependencies, and I don't have it.
> 
> Many thanks..
> 
> Sam
> 
> 
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On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Mikhail Kruk wrote:

> You probably have to install linux_base. With this you should be able to 
> install linux-jdk13. Then try jdk131. 

if you use the port, it installs the linux compat stuff *for* you.

it's very painless. i highly reccomend it.

> > Hello all,
> > 
> >     Subject says it all.  I have an application that needs a JVM of 1.2
> > or later.  I know absolutely nothing about java, and have tried
> > unsuccesfully to build the jdk-13, linux-jdk13 etc., ad-nauseum, and
> > have become frustrated.  What is the absolute minimum stuff I need to
> > support the JVM 1.2, and I think Tomcat is now being used for the
> > servelet.  Any pointers on why the ports won't build would also be
> > appreciated.  The linux-jdk13 is looking for glibc_2.2, which is not
> > called out in the dependencies, and I don't have it.
> > 
> > Many thanks..
> > 
> > Sam
> > 
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On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 04:40:16PM -0700, Nate Williams wrote:
> I wasn't aware that Linux/Solaris allow interrupting IO syscalls
> (especially Linux).  Does M$ also allow one to interrupt syscalls?
> (This is news to me!)

It's SYSV behavior, not sure about Linux.

> > The current interruptable IO wrapper is a macro that has a jmpbuf
> > which loops back before the IO syscall when a SIGUSR1 is delivered to
> > it and then used it to return an OS_INTRPT, when the syscall block
> > reexecuted.
> 
> This kind of thing doesn't sound portable at all.  I wonder how OS-X
> does things?

I think that OS X is missing some pthreads features that deal with per
thread signal delivery. I'm not sure though. They might just use a Machism
of some sort. I could ask a Darwin person if you want ? 

Darwin is rather antiquated about signal delivery (lacking the Posix
prototype for signal handlers) and threads.

> > It's kind of funny way of dealing with EINTRs and I suspect that they did
> > that to avoid dealing with syscall return value specifics. I'm not sure
> > how valid that is for FreeBSD. I wonder if I can do something else to get
> > around using this rather hackish macro and if the return valids of those
> > functions would be sufficient for reporting interrupts thrown by a Unix
> > signal. That's currently under examination.
> 
> It seems to me that it's not even necessary, since syscalls can't be
> interrupted, you have nothing to handle.  Unless I'm misunderstanding
> what you're saying.

Right, the BSD behavior prevents this, which might be a problem for
implementing interruptable IO. The Linux code just omits that stuff
completely.

> > The basic thing here is to handle the delivery of a SIGUSR1 to a
> > thread in a syscall
> 
> See above.  You can't interrupt an IO syscall in BSDs.  However, that
> may change in 5.0, but that's a ways off, so it may end up being a 6.0
> feature.

I know. I'm wonder if I should mess with this at all right now. You
definitely gave me some clarity on this issue.

> How about making diffs available for folks to review?

I might as well commit it if that's the case.

> > In my opinion, prevention is better than a brute force search of potential
> > bugs in case like this. Maybe I'm being overall cautious about this, eh ?
> 
> I don't think it's possible to be too cautious at this point. :)

Yes, thanks. I've been pretty isolated doing this stuff and the topic of JIT
compilers are rather obscure so I don't really have a clique of folks to yack
with constantly about these issues. It doens't help to be working in a
bleeding edge code tree from a research project at Stanford (Self)
either.

:-)

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> > > It's kind of funny way of dealing with EINTRs and I suspect that they did
> > > that to avoid dealing with syscall return value specifics. I'm not sure
> > > how valid that is for FreeBSD. I wonder if I can do something else to get
> > > around using this rather hackish macro and if the return valids of those
> > > functions would be sufficient for reporting interrupts thrown by a Unix
> > > signal. That's currently under examination.
> > 
> > It seems to me that it's not even necessary, since syscalls can't be
> > interrupted, you have nothing to handle.  Unless I'm misunderstanding
> > what you're saying.
> 
> Right, the BSD behavior prevents this, which might be a problem for
> implementing interruptable IO. The Linux code just omits that stuff
> completely.

Then we can as well.  (Although, it might make things interesting for
the new nsio stuff in 1.4).

> > > The basic thing here is to handle the delivery of a SIGUSR1 to a
> > > thread in a syscall
> > 
> > See above.  You can't interrupt an IO syscall in BSDs.  However, that
> > may change in 5.0, but that's a ways off, so it may end up being a 6.0
> > feature.
> 
> I know. I'm wonder if I should mess with this at all right now. You
> definitely gave me some clarity on this issue.

Ok, here's some more clarity.  Don't even mess with this at all right
now. :) :)

> > How about making diffs available for folks to review?
> 
> I might as well commit it if that's the case.

If there are that much of a mess, then diffs might be easier.  However,
if you get hit by a truck or find some chickie-poo who drags you away
from your computer for long stretches of time, we'd like to have access
to your bits, if not your brain. :)



Nate

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Hi;

now that i have a working native jdk, i have been busy with the java 
development environment for emacs (JDEE)

it's not quite working. :-) it's close tho!

heres' the deal, you can try this at home:

jdee expects that this line will successfully spawn the vm with the class 
under development, this works great on my rh7 box at work, but not on my 
FreeBSD box:

 /usr/local/jdk1.3.1/bin/java -Xdebug 
 -Xrunjdwp:transport=dt_socket,address=4444,server=y,suspend=n dom.ASBuilder

 Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: 
 sun/tools/agent/Agent
 Could not create the Java virtual machine.

 Process dom.ASBuilder exited abnormally with code 1

googling about shows that tools.jar holds the sun.tools.agent package. but 
you cant just add it to the CLASSPATH, it hads to be added to the special 
magic 'bootclasspath'

so. if i alter the command line thusly:

 java -Xbootclasspath/a:/usr/local/jdk1.3.1/lib/tools.jar -Xdebug 
-Xrunjdwp:transport=dt_socket,address=4444,server=y,suspend=n dom.ASBuilder


so, how do we get this added to the compiled in bootclasspath?

so much for "Write Java Development Environment for Emacs Once, Run Java 
Development Environment for Emacs Everywhere"

 :-)

tnx!

johnu
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Ummm.. I guess I was a little vague in my statement...  I'm not a
FreeBSD newbie, a java newbie!  I've got supposedly everything required
to build the linux-jdk13 per the native jdk13 depends, but an attempt to
build the *linux-jdk* port fails due to a missing patch.  What patch??
This is the ports tree from about a week ago, for 4.5-stable.  Had not
tried prior to my last cvsup, so don't or can't say if it worked
before.    From a make clean, then fresh start, the attached output from
make.  As you can see, it's attempting a patch, which there is none
(none that I can find).  Have some things changed in the ports file in
the last week or so?  Hve not looked at the ports mailing list yet tho..

Sam

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Script started on Wed Mar 20 20:07:00 2002
# make

===>  Extracting for linux-jdk-1.3.1.02_1
>> Checksum OK for j2sdk-1_3_1_02-linux-i386.bin.
===>   linux-jdk-1.3.1.02_1 depends on file: /compat/linux/lib/libc.so.6 - found
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READ THE TERMS OF THIS AGREEMENT AND ANY PROVIDED
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Unpacking...
Checksumming...
0
0
Extracting...
./install.sfx.53414: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: version `GLIBC_2.2' not found (required by /lib/libc.so.6)
Done.
===>  Patching for linux-jdk-1.3.1.02_1
===>  Applying FreeBSD patches for linux-jdk-1.3.1.02_1
patch: **** can't cd to /usr/ports/java/linux-jdk13/work/jdk1.3.1_02: No such file or directory
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i didnt do it from stable. i just grabbed the ports.tar.gz

ftp://ftp.FreeBSD.org/pub/FreeBSD/branches/-current//ports.tar.gz

i ran into no mystery patch requirements or barfage about missing libc's

HTH


On Wed, 20 Mar 2002, Sam wrote:

> Ummm.. I guess I was a little vague in my statement...  I'm not a
> FreeBSD newbie, a java newbie!  I've got supposedly everything required
> to build the linux-jdk13 per the native jdk13 depends, but an attempt to
> build the *linux-jdk* port fails due to a missing patch.  What patch??
> This is the ports tree from about a week ago, for 4.5-stable.  Had not
> tried prior to my last cvsup, so don't or can't say if it worked
> before.    From a make clean, then fresh start, the attached output from
> make.  As you can see, it's attempting a patch, which there is none
> (none that I can find).  Have some things changed in the ports file in
> the last week or so?  Hve not looked at the ports mailing list yet tho..
> 
> Sam
> 
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> 
> 

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Did you do what this message says?

polkan2# cd /usr/ports/java/jdk13
polkan2# make
===>  jdk-1.3.1p6_1 You must manually fetch the source distribution and 
FreeBSD patches (j2sdk-1_3_1-src.tar.gz  bsd-jdk131-patches-6.tar.gz) from 
http://www.sun.com/software/java2/download.html and 
http://www.eyesbeyond.com/freebsddom/java/jdk13.html, place it in 
/usr/ports/distfiles and then run make again.
polkan2# 


> Ummm.. I guess I was a little vague in my statement...  I'm not a
> FreeBSD newbie, a java newbie! 

If you can't get linux-jdk installed you won't get native jdk installed 
(it needs linux-jdk to build). You said linux jdk wasn't working.


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hi!

>  /usr/local/jdk1.3.1/bin/java -Xdebug 
>  -Xrunjdwp:transport=dt_socket,address=4444,server=y,suspend=n dom.ASBuilder

is "Agent" really necessary? - how about specifying -Xnoagent?
(I think this is the usual way I used to do (on linux/solaris))

> now that i have a working native jdk, i have been busy with the java 
> development environment for emacs (JDEE)

interested - url? (whats the diff. against JDE?)

kenji

ps., I've compile/installed jdk1.3.1 on fbsd this morning
 - this is cool! :)  -- I mean, compiling on linux was more tedious...
(but I seemed to have some problem with ant (java task) -- maybe
get back to this sometime later; if it really was a problem)

...cheers :)

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hi kenji;

On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 kkonaka@mac.com wrote:

> hi!
> 
> >  /usr/local/jdk1.3.1/bin/java -Xdebug 
> >  -Xrunjdwp:transport=dt_socket,address=4444,server=y,suspend=n dom.ASBuilder
> 
> is "Agent" really necessary? - how about specifying -Xnoagent?
> (I think this is the usual way I used to do (on linux/solaris))

hmm, that would be a question for Paul Kinnucan, the author of JDEE.

but, i'd argue that if it works that way on linux, it should work that way
on BSD ( my previous sarcastic comments to the contrary notwithstanding
:-) ).

> > now that i have a working native jdk, i have been busy with the java 
> > development environment for emacs (JDEE)
> 
> interested - url? (whats the diff. against JDE?)

JDE is JDEE, kinnucan changed the name because jdedwards sent him hate 
mail.

url is jdee.sunsite.dk

no diff. works just great with the current beta. even with emacs 21.2,
which i installed yesterday after i built the jdk.

> kenji
> 
> ps., I've compile/installed jdk1.3.1 on fbsd this morning
>  - this is cool! :)  -- I mean, compiling on linux was more tedious...
> (but I seemed to have some problem with ant (java task) -- maybe
> get back to this sometime later; if it really was a problem)
> 
> ...cheers :)
> 
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hi john:)

> JDE is JDEE, kinnucan changed the name because jdedwards sent him hate 
> mail.
> 
> url is jdee.sunsite.dk

oh really? - I think I should have been living under a rock
or something; my clock stopped at around jde-2.2.6
(okay I did follow the url, and it does point to the same thing :)

> hmm, that would be a question for Paul Kinnucan, the author of JDEE.
> 
> but, i'd argue that if it works that way on linux, it should work that way
> on BSD ( my previous sarcastic comments to the contrary notwithstanding
> :-) ).

hmm., to be honest; I still use jde(2.2.6) daily - but not
using it for debugger (replaced by NetBeans after initial
attemps; but then my usage of NetBeans is only as a source
code debugger and still doing all editing/compilation taks
under jde/ant ...-Xnoagent works fine for sure at least for
NetBeans). ((to be double honest I'm actually not sure what
this -Xnoagent does [haha] *blush*))

;; still haven't tried NetBeans on jde/FreeBSD native - may try tomorrow :)
kenji

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Bill,

Your work on porting HotSpot looks to be filled with pleasant :)

> "HotSpot"

> [OS glue layer]
>
> 1) There's a couple of problems with interruptable IO that are a bit
> semantically confusing such as the SYSV and BSD behaviors of a syscall
> during the delivery of a signal. Should it return EINT like in SYSV ?

It is certaion that the semantics os signal() about interruption of
I/O related system calls depend on the kind of OS.  On BSD systems,
the interrupted syscalls restart automatically after return from the
signal handler, but System V and Linux make the syscalls return with
errno being EINTR.

But, BSD also has sigaction() (and SA_SIGINFO) prescribed by POSIX.1.
With sigaction(), we can control the semantics of the automatic
restart of syscalls with SA_RESTART flag in `sa_flags' member of the
struct sigaction.  And, if using sigaction(), even BSD is compliant
with other OSes like SysV and Linux.

The semantics of BSD signal (signal()) is as follows.
I confirmed these on FreeBSD 3.2R in anciant days,
but recent FreeBSDs may be the same.

  SA_NODEFER	is false
	Delivery of another signal is deferred
	during a signal handler is executed.
  SA_RESETHAND	is false
	Signal handlig functions are not cleared automatically.
  SA_RESTART	is *true*
	An interrupted I/O related syscalls restart automaticaly.
	This characterize the BSD signal.

The default semantics of POSIX signal (sigaction()) define all these
flags as false (SIG_DFL is defined as 0).  Please try `man sigaction'.


> I've been pretty isolated doing this stuff and the topic of JIT
> compilers are rather obscure so I don't really have a clique of
> folks to yack with constantly about these issues.

Diving into such a deep structure is very exciting.


Enjoy!

  Kazuyuki Shudo	shudo@computer.org	http://www.shudo.net/

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On Wed, Mar 20, 2002 at 04:01:45PM -0800, Bill Huey wrote:
> Yes, thanks. I've been pretty isolated doing this stuff and the topic of JIT
> compilers are rather obscure so I don't really have a clique of folks to yack
> with constantly about these issues. It doens't help to be working in a
> bleeding edge code tree from a research project at Stanford (Self)
> either.

I see that Shudo-san has replied.  I'm sure he is an excellent source
of JIT knowledge :).  Also, Fuyuhiko-san is one of the main OpenJIT
developers, so between them they should be able to set you straight
about JIT compilers.  Just post the questions :).

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On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 02:25:13PM +1030, Greg Lewis wrote:
> I see that Shudo-san has replied.  I'm sure he is an excellent source
> of JIT knowledge :).  Also, Fuyuhiko-san is one of the main OpenJIT
> developers, so between them they should be able to set you straight
> about JIT compilers.  Just post the questions :).

The most difficult aspect of understanding this the shear runtime
complexity of the Solaris code itself where it does nutty stuff like
encapsulate all of the OS functionality within a C++ framework, resolve
threading reference at execution time and other wacky Solaris thingies
with their signal/threading libraries. The style isn't very familiar and
they use all sorts of crazy derived classes to deal with objects
with various allocation classes such as static, stack, cheap, etc...

It's been very confusing to attempt to understand. The callback stuff
so that HotSpot can manipulate a ucontext_t is also pretty nutty and
took me a while to understand why it was there in the first place.
I have never seen the use of a signal stack in that way before this
code tree and certainly manipulating the program counter, getting the
stack and stack frame are non-standard uses of it.

The entire compiler is protected by mutexes in all notable major
sections presummably because they like to have things as optimized
for threading as much as possible. They exploit weird constructor/destructor
calling conventions within a certain scope, etc...

{ // construct
	MutexLock bigvar(constructor_argument);
	...
	if (bigvar.check_me_no_joke())
		...;
} // destruct

Pretty nutty...

It's taken me a while to get my head around the whole thing (big picture)
enough to really make sense of it, while previously I was focused on the
very low level parts of the system and only dealt with it from a very
nuts & boltsy level. It's making much more sense now and I can switch
back and forth between all parts now and incrementally understand how
it those parts interact, while before I was just plain confused.

The plan here now is to skip the architecture specific directory since
that's pretty healthy now, os_cpu/linux_i486/vm/linux, and work on
the OS specific stuff next. It's now the most raw and needs the most
work.

I'm definitely converging closer to a workable system as I keep at it.
No doubt about that.

BTW, I would expect our version of HotSpot to be very fast for CPU
intensive tasks, since libc_r is implemented in userspace. Context
switches, dequeuing threads off a turnstile and rescheduling and things
like that should all be very fast because of this. I can't wait to
have somebody bench it to see if this is true or if I'm just completely
wrong.

;-)

bill


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> The entire compiler is protected by mutexes in all notable major
> sections presummably because they like to have things as optimized
> for threading as much as possible.

Actually, mutexes almost always slow things down, so I doubt it's an
optimization issue.  It's probably to ensure a method is completely
JIT'd before they allow execution of the new version.



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hi kenji;

On Wed, 20 Mar 2002 kkonaka@mac.com wrote:

> hi john:)
> 
> > JDE is JDEE, kinnucan changed the name because jdedwards sent him hate 
> > mail.

<snip>

> ;; still haven't tried NetBeans on jde/FreeBSD native - may try tomorrow :)
> kenji

i'd love to here more about netbeans and debugging. what's that all about?

 JDEBug is ok for stepping, but it's insanely slow if you want to watch 
variables at the same time.... i dont understand why....

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Hi I'm trying to compile mod_jk.  I get a compiler error.  It starts
out as:
mod_jk.c:75: util_date.h: No such file or directory
mod_jk.c:76: http_conf_globals.h: No such file or directory
mod_jk.c:108: syntax error before `jk_module'
mod_jk.c:133: syntax error before `table'

and the rest seem to cascade from there.

I'm running 4.5 and have Apache 2 from the ports and Tomcat 4.0.3 installed.

Help, please.

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howdy :)
> i'd love to here more about netbeans and debugging. what's that all about?
> 
>  JDEBug is ok for stepping, but it's insanely slow if you want to watch 
> variables at the same time.... i dont understand why....

8+ months ago I was doing comparison of jpda debuggers
like jdebug - JBuilder - NetBeans - JSwat.
jdebug is nice, but (appeared to me) to choke up
on really, really big programs; NetBeans then remained.
;; but again things have changed dramatically since then.

ciao :)
kenji

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On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 09:38:23AM -0700, Nate Williams wrote:
> Actually, mutexes almost always slow things down, so I doubt it's an
> optimization issue.  It's probably to ensure a method is completely
> JIT'd before they allow execution of the new version.
> 
> Nate

It's almost certainly a mixture of things including properly
synchronizing the JIT process. But in the case JITing, you have
a common dictionary that you have to protect so that the possiblity
of multipule threading compiling block into it can proceed in
a non-racy manner. I can't exactly say if this is the case just
yet, but it would make sense if all the executing threads where
able to JIT blocks and/or manage a pool of thread doing the
compiling and inserting the results into a common data structure.

There you still have to protect a common resouce via a mutex of
some sort. That's just basic to threading systems. And having
common coarse grained lock would add a lot contention, so it
would make sense to push that down to each subsystem.

No work last night, I was possibly slightly poisoned by being
around the reminience of burning plastics from a burnt car.
You know, cynanide and all...  I'm fine today.

bill


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> > Actually, mutexes almost always slow things down, so I doubt it's an
> > optimization issue.  It's probably to ensure a method is completely
> > JIT'd before they allow execution of the new version.
> 
> It's almost certainly a mixture of things including properly
> synchronizing the JIT process. But in the case JITing, you have
> a common dictionary that you have to protect so that the possiblity
> of multipule threading compiling block into it can proceed in
> a non-racy manner.

They allow multiple JIT compile threads?  That seems like a problem
waiting for a solution.  Are you *sure*?

 I can't exactly say if this is the case just
> yet, but it would make sense if all the executing threads where
> able to JIT blocks and/or manage a pool of thread doing the
> compiling and inserting the results into a common data structure.

Actually, it wouldn't, since a JIT like HotSpot JITS on-the-fly as code
is found to be useful in compiling.  Traditional JITs compile
*everything* at the beginning, so there aren't as many races and such,
since no-code is executed until the compilation is complete.



Nate

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On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 04:45:45PM -0700, Nate Williams wrote:
> They allow multiple JIT compile threads?  That seems like a problem
> waiting for a solution.  Are you *sure*?

On an enterprise machine with 10,000+ threads and 64 CPUs, it doesn't
make sense to serialize the JIT process into one thread. It almost
certainly is so that the compilation process can proceed in parallel
across multipule CPUs and in what ever executing thread at the time.

... 

> Actually, it wouldn't, since a JIT like HotSpot JITS on-the-fly as code
> is found to be useful in compiling.  Traditional JITs compile
> *everything* at the beginning, so there aren't as many races and such,
> since no-code is executed until the compilation is complete.

That's only if you have one thread doing the compilation and this isn't
a traditional JIT in any way what so ever. You're almost certainly
dealing with a JIT that can allow anything to compile code and shove
into a data structure. Even a traditional JIT would benefit from
parallel compilation since it's a more known operation and can
concretely schedule threads to the work. 

It's a basic threading and resource contention problem in either case.

bill


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> > They allow multiple JIT compile threads?  That seems like a problem
> > waiting for a solution.  Are you *sure*?
> 
> On an enterprise machine with 10,000+ threads and 64 CPUs, it doesn't
> make sense to serialize the JIT process into one thread.

Actually, it still does.

> It almost certainly is so that the compilation process can proceed in
> parallel across multipule CPUs and in what ever executing thread at
> the time.

The overhead of compilation is why HotSpot does a better job than
Standard JITs.  It only compiles a small portion of the program at a
time, and can even decompile parts of the program if they fall out of
use.  (Resources et. al.)

> > Actually, it wouldn't, since a JIT like HotSpot JITS on-the-fly as code
> > is found to be useful in compiling.  Traditional JITs compile
> > *everything* at the beginning, so there aren't as many races and such,
> > since no-code is executed until the compilation is complete.
> 
> That's only if you have one thread doing the compilation and this isn't
> a traditional JIT in any way what so ever. You're almost certainly
> dealing with a JIT that can allow anything to compile code and shove
> into a data structure. Even a traditional JIT would benefit from
> parallel compilation since it's a more known operation and can
> concretely schedule threads to the work. 

See above.  We can agree to disagree here.  The last talk I heard on
HotSpot implied that they are using a single thread for compilation,
which is similar to the pseudo-single threaded garbage collector.  (The
GC process can involve more than one thread, but only a single thread
can be active at a time).

The complexity/overhead of multiple GC's and compilation *far*
outweighs the benefits.




Nate

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On Thu, Mar 21, 2002 at 05:07:52PM -0700, Nate Williams wrote:
> See above.  We can agree to disagree here.  The last talk I heard on
> HotSpot implied that they are using a single thread for compilation,

Possibly, I haven't gotten to the code just yet and it isn't my task
to figure that out.

> which is similar to the pseudo-single threaded garbage collector.  (The
> GC process can involve more than one thread, but only a single thread
> can be active at a time).

Either way, you still need to protect various parts effected with a mutex.
 
> The complexity/overhead of multiple GC's and compilation *far*
> outweighs the benefits.

The compilation process isn't the same as garbage collection. Your
building and manipulating a single object verse a graph of objects.

bill


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From: Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>

> The overhead of compilation is why HotSpot does a better job than
> Standard JITs.  It only compiles a small portion of the program at a
> time, and can even decompile parts of the program if they fall out of
> use.  (Resources et. al.)

Concerning compilation strategy on which a JIT determine to compile a
method, this web page give us a clue.

  Java HotSpot VM Options
  http://java.sun.com/docs/hotspot/VMOptions.html

It says:

  Flags and Default:
    -XX:CompileThreshold=10000
  Description:
    number of method invocations/branches before (re-)compiling
    [10,000 -server, 1,500 -client]

Sun's HotSpot VMs choose methods to be compiled according to the
invocation/branch counter of each method.  IBM JDK does the same, but
it count branches in a different way from invocations.  The JIT of IBM
JDK may gives respective weights to invocation and branch.  Last year
one of the developers of IBM JITC said the threshold of the JIT is 2000.

Even many of JITs called `standard' or `traditional' JIT here do the
same.  For example, Borland Java 2 JIT (*) compiles a method called
twice.  ShuJIT compiles a method when it has been called 10 times if
it belongs to a system class (i.e. java.lang.* and java.io.* and so on).

(*) Now we cannot obtain this JIT on web.

These techniques, which are kinds of lazy compilation, outline one of
limitations of JIT development independent of JVM.  I suppose Classic
VM now.  A JIT can count invocations by itself while an interpreter
working.  But a JIT cannot count branches performed by the interpreter.


> The last talk I heard on
> HotSpot implied that they are using a single thread for compilation,
> which is similar to the pseudo-single threaded garbage collector.  (The
> GC process can involve more than one thread, but only a single thread
> can be active at a time).

> The complexity/overhead of multiple GC's and compilation *far*
> outweighs the benefits.

IBM JikesRVM (formerly known as Jalapeno) also has one thread
dedicated to JIT compilation.  They insist this is not a problem.

ShuJIT compile methods concurrently.  Each thread can compile one
method at the same time.  An instance of a data structure for JIT
compilation (struct compiler_context) is created for each compilation
and an instance does not interfere each other.  Of course, shared
information is guarded with locks.


  Kazuyuki Shudo	shudo@computer.org	http://www.shudo.net/

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      I have been looking around for JDK 1.4 port for FreeBSD
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>      I have been looking around for JDK 1.4 port for FreeBSD
>and have not found one yet.  Does one exists?  If not can I use
>a Linux one?  How do I go about using a Linux JDK on FreeBSD?
>

ports/java/linux-jdk14 helps you.
I've just tried some demo applications on it, they work fine.

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SUGIMURA Takashi <sugimura@jp.FreeBSD.org>

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