From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Dec 8 0:10:15 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CB1337B401; Sun, 8 Dec 2002 00:10:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from nezlok.unixathome.org (nezlok.unixathome.org [216.187.87.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 141E143EC5; Sun, 8 Dec 2002 00:10:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dan@nezlok.unixathome.org) Received: by nezlok.unixathome.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 80463AE4DE; Sun, 8 Dec 2002 00:10:01 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Langille To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: The FreeBSD Diary: 2002-11-17 - 2002-12-07 Message-Id: <20021208081001.80463AE4DE@nezlok.unixathome.org> Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 00:10:01 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org The FreeBSD Diary contains a large number of practical examples and how-to guides. This message is posted weekly to freebsd-questions@freebsd.org with the aim of letting people know what's available on the website. Before you post a question here it might be a good idea to first search the mailing list archives and/or The FreeBSD Diary . These are the articles posted during this period: 6-Dec : PostgreSQL - removing foreign keys Things are getting easier http://freebsddiary.org/postgresql-dropping-constraints.php?2 -- Dan Langille - DVL Software Limited The FreeBSD Diary - http://www.FreeBSDDiary.org/ - practical examples FreshPorts - http://www.FreshPorts.org/ - the place for ports FreshSource - http://www.FreshSource.org/ - the place for source To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Dec 8 0:24:18 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8394037B401 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2002 00:24:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp807.mail.sc5.yahoo.com (smtp807.mail.sc5.yahoo.com [66.163.168.186]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 37A8743EBE for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2002 00:24:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ledboots@sbcglobal.net) Received: from unknown (HELO sbcglobal.net) (ledboots@sbcglobal.net@67.118.215.163 with plain) by smtp-sbc-v1.mail.vip.sc5.yahoo.com with SMTP; 8 Dec 2002 08:24:16 -0000 Message-ID: <3DF3018C.1070701@sbcglobal.net> Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 00:23:40 -0800 From: n User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.0.1) Gecko/20020823 Netscape/7.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: hello Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i'm a newb some how i'm not getting everyhting i need in the install process it says can't load the kernal it says its not there also when i made all the slices it didn't seem to help cause it said it couldn't find them and loaded everything in the root and of course that filled up quick @ at 500 MB thanks for you direction n To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Dec 8 19:25:48 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB31437B404 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2002 19:25:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from abc.com (219.224.27.24.cfl.rr.com [24.27.224.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8B66A43ED8 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2002 19:25:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from free-call@personal.ro) Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 03:25:54 GMT To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org From: free-call@personal.ro Subject: Бесплатные Звонки по мобильнику [1556850] Importance: Normal Content-Type: text/plain; charset="koi8-r" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.53d) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-Id: <20021209032543.8B66A43ED8@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Здравствуйте Сколько вы платите за мобильный телефон ?? Мы можем сделать все исходящие звонки с вашего телефона БЕСПЛАТНЫМИ !! Подробности на сайте http://www.angelfire.com/droid/fgsmf/ ИЗВИНИТЕ, ЕСЛИ ЭТА ИНФОРМАЦИЯ ВАМ НЕ ПРИГОДИЛАСЬ. Данное письмо отослано в соответствии с п. 4 ст. 29 Конституции РФ. Ваш электронный адрес получен из открытых источников. Повторно это письмо к вам гарантированно не придет To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Dec 8 22:31:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3486A37B401 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2002 22:31:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from eth.net (mailvs.eth.net [202.9.145.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E3DB43EB2 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2002 22:31:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shyamk@eth.net) Received: from smtp-23.eth.net ([202.9.178.23] unverified) by eth.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Mon, 9 Dec 2002 12:03:02 +0530 Received: from 202.9.186.20 by smtp-23.eth.net (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Mon, 09 Dec 2002 12:03:37 +0530 Message-ID: <001401c29f4c$557d4880$14ba09ca@u4k8x8> From: "Shyam" To: Subject: Users to mount floppy Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 11:58:38 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 09 Dec 2002 06:33:02.0734 (UTC) FILETIME=[D312A2E0:01C29F4C] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am new both to freebsd and to this list.I gave the entries in the /etc/fstab as : /dev/fd0 /floppy msdos noauto 0 0 but only the root can do mount /floppy users can't ... the error they seem to be getting is that they can't access /dev/fd0 . I shall be greatly appreciate any help. Thanks, Shyam. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Dec 8 23:55: 8 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E938237B401 for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2002 23:55:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from micro6.mscc.huji.ac.il (roth.hul.huji.ac.il [132.64.182.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A180043F6F for ; Sun, 8 Dec 2002 23:55:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pacman@huji.ac.il) Received: from starshooter.huji.ac.il (ilana-5011-2.hul.huji.ac.il [132.64.182.150]) by micro6.mscc.huji.ac.il (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id gB97t5527961 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 07:55:05 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: Voicu Liviu To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 09:52:21 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200212090952.21853.pacman@huji.ac.il> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, Any one can explaind me why FreeBSD doesn't have the KERNEL stored under=20 /boot? Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Dec 9 0:21:55 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 82BF137B401 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 00:21:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mcesr.etat.lu (dynamic4.etat.lu [194.154.200.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61F4343E4A for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 00:21:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from didier.wiroth@mcesr.etat.lu) Received: from [148.110.43.149] (HELO lucifer) by mcesr.etat.lu (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 3.5.9) with ESMTP id 688864; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 09:16:00 +0100 Reply-To: From: "Didier Wiroth" To: "'Voicu Liviu'" , Subject: RE: Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 09:21:14 +0100 Organization: MCESR Message-ID: <000701c29f5b$f079a720$952b6e94@lucifer> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4024 In-Reply-To: <200212090952.21853.pacman@huji.ac.il> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hey, I can't tell why it isn't stored there but it will be stored there for FreeBSD 5.0 -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Voicu Liviu Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 08:52 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Hi, Any one can explaind me why FreeBSD doesn't have the KERNEL stored under /boot? Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Dec 9 2:44:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CCA737B401 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 02:44:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA31343E4A for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 02:44:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from david.schmidt@submeta.de) Received: from [212.227.126.162] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18LLOc-0001PR-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 11:44:18 +0100 Received: from [213.178.82.223] (helo=lorien.home) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18LLOb-0000di-00 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 11:44:18 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" From: David Schmidt To: Subject: Re: Users to mount floppy Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 11:45:57 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <001401c29f4c$557d4880$14ba09ca@u4k8x8> In-Reply-To: <001401c29f4c$557d4880$14ba09ca@u4k8x8> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200212091145.58728.david.schmidt@submeta.de> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday 09 December 2002 07:28, Shyam wrote: > I am new both to freebsd and to this list.I gave the > entries in the /etc/fstab as : > /dev/fd0 /floppy msdos noauto 0 0 > > but only the root can do mount /floppy > > users can't ... the error they seem to be getting is that > they can't access /dev/fd0 . Hi, there is a solution for your problem in the faq section of the FreeBSD=20 homepage: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/faq/disks.html#USER-FLOP= PYMOUNT Best regards, David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Dec 9 6:23:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8687A37B401 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 06:23:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from micro6.mscc.huji.ac.il (roth.hul.huji.ac.il [132.64.182.216]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 89B9543E4A for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 06:23:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from pacman@huji.ac.il) Received: from starshooter.huji.ac.il (ilana-5011-2.hul.huji.ac.il [132.64.182.150]) by micro6.mscc.huji.ac.il (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id gB9ENj504496 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 14:23:45 GMT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1255" From: Voicu Liviu To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 16:21:01 +0200 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <000701c29f5b$f079a720$952b6e94@lucifer> In-Reply-To: <000701c29f5b$f079a720$952b6e94@lucifer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200212091621.01368.pacman@huji.ac.il> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm a newbiew in FreeBSD ( usage 2 weeks ) and almost 1 year of Gentoo that works ( in fact gentoo was created by *BSD ports ) almost like Freeb= sd (i=20 mean to the ports ) The problem is how do I see what is going to be installed with some=20 application that I want. Let say I want to install Mozilla so in gentoo i'll run "emerge --pretend= =20 mozilla" and it will return me a list with all dependencies. How do I do this in FreeBSD? Thanks To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Dec 9 8:20:43 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7923237B401 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 08:20:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from scanmail2.cableone.net (scanmail2.cableone.net [24.116.0.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1711443EB2 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 08:20:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lute@cableone.net) Received: from scanmail2.cableone.net ([10.116.0.122]) by scanmail2.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Mon, 9 Dec 2002 09:18:12 -0700 Received: from scanmail2.cableone.net [24.116.0.122] by scanmail2.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id A2414D160136; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 09:18:12 -0700 Received: from agnes (227-51.siocpe.cableone.net [24.116.227.51]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Mon, 09 Dec 2002 09:18:12 -0700 Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 10:17:49 -0600 From: Lute Mullenix To: Newbies Subject: Recording sound files. Message-Id: <20021209101749.1acdfbaf.lute@cableone.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: agnes X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: lute@cableone.net X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 227-51.siocpe.cableone.net [24.116.227.51] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I'm in the process of copying some songs from tape to my computer. These are old demo tapes made by local bands and pretty much one of a kind items. I'm doing this in hopes of burning them on to CDs because of the fragile nature of cassettes. Anyway I have been using Xwave to record from the tape, then bladeenc to encode to mp3 format. This seems to be working pretty well, but am wondering if anyone has used something different to do this sort of thing. If so, what and how it worked for them. This kind of stuff is brand new to me and I'm flying by the seat of my pants so to speak on this one. Lute ********************** Dual Boot: * FreeBSD 4.7 RELEASE * Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 * ********************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Dec 9 10:13:44 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE5C137B401 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 10:13:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from thor.acuson.com (thor.acuson.com [157.226.71.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17ACD43EBE for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 10:13:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com (mvaexch02.acuson.com [157.226.230.209]) by thor.acuson.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 (built Feb 21 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H6V006TR6MKR7@thor.acuson.com> for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 10:13:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 10:08:31 -0800 Received: from balderdash.acuson.com (dhcp-46-146.acuson.com [157.226.46.146]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id Y2R9QHXG; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 10:10:33 -0800 Content-return: allowed Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 10:13:39 -0800 From: Johnson David Subject: Re: In-reply-to: <200212090952.21853.pacman@huji.ac.il> To: Voicu Liviu , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Message-id: <200212091013.39304.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> Organization: Siemens Medical Systems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <200212090952.21853.pacman@huji.ac.il> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sunday 08 December 2002 11:52 pm, Voicu Liviu wrote: > Hi, > Any one can explaind me why FreeBSD doesn't have the KERNEL stored under > /boot? > Thanks I can't think of any particular reason why is shouldn't be installed under / instead of /boot other than tradition. I quick survey of Linux systems shows that only about half prefer /boot. A look at Solaris shows that it's installed under /kernel. Other than the fact that /boot can have its own partition separate from /, is there any advantage to putting the kernel there? David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Dec 9 10:22:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63D2037B401 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 10:22:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from thor.acuson.com (thor.acuson.com [157.226.71.79]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F243243EC2 for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 10:22:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DavidJohnson@Siemens.com) Received: from mvaexch02.acuson.com (mvaexch02.acuson.com [157.226.230.209]) by thor.acuson.com (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 (built Feb 21 2002)) with ESMTP id <0H6V0066471VRE@thor.acuson.com> for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 10:22:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by mvaexch02.acuson.com with Internet Mail Service (5.5.2653.19) id ; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 10:17:41 -0800 Received: from balderdash.acuson.com (dhcp-46-146.acuson.com [157.226.46.146]) by mvaexch01.acuson.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id Y2R9QH7F; Mon, 09 Dec 2002 10:19:40 -0800 Content-return: allowed Date: Mon, 09 Dec 2002 10:22:46 -0800 From: Johnson David Subject: Re: In-reply-to: <200212091621.01368.pacman@huji.ac.il> To: Voicu Liviu , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Message-id: <200212091022.46104.DavidJohnson@Siemens.com> Organization: Siemens Medical Systems MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=windows-1255 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 References: <000701c29f5b$f079a720$952b6e94@lucifer> <200212091621.01368.pacman@huji.ac.il> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Monday 09 December 2002 06:21 am, Voicu Liviu wrote: > Hi, > I'm a newbiew in FreeBSD ( usage 2 weeks ) and almost 1 year of Gentoo > that works ( in fact gentoo was created by *BSD ports ) almost like Freebsd > (i mean to the ports ) Actually, Gentoo was inspired by the *BSD ports, but they wrote their emerge system from scratch. My favorite ports system is NetBSD's, but FreeBSD's seems to be a bit more complete at the expense of a bit more kruft. Emerge looks nice, but it's not quite done (not a slam, just an observation). > The problem is how do I see what is going to be installed with some > application that I want. > Let say I want to install Mozilla so in gentoo i'll run "emerge --pretend > mozilla" and it will return me a list with all dependencies. > How do I do this in FreeBSD? Take a look at the FreeBSD handbook (installed by default or online). This has a good chapter on packages and ports with all the options. There's also some additional information in the FAQ. David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Dec 10 5:45:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C6E037B401 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 05:45:40 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bellavista.cz (mail.bellavista.cz [62.168.44.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9838643EBE for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 05:45:39 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from neuhauser@bellavista.cz) Received: from freepuppy.bellavista.cz (freepuppy.bellavista.cz [10.0.0.10]) by lilith.bellavista.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id A138B6C for ; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 22:21:08 +0100 (CET) Received: by freepuppy.bellavista.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id E56C82FDAB2; Mon, 9 Dec 2002 21:24:58 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 9 Dec 2002 21:24:58 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <20021209202458.GB56031@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org References: <200212090952.21853.pacman@huji.ac.il> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200212090952.21853.pacman@huji.ac.il> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org # pacman@huji.ac.il / 2002-12-09 09:52:21 +0200: > Any one can explaind me why FreeBSD doesn't have the KERNEL stored under > /boot? most probably historical reasons; it's under /boot in -CURRENT IIRC. -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message. see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Dec 10 8:12:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 154EB37B401 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 08:12:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAA2243EA9 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 08:12:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a117.otenet.gr [212.205.215.117]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBAGCLOs009404; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 18:12:29 +0200 (EET) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBAGCGxQ002354; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 18:12:16 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBAGCGj0002353; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 18:12:16 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 18:12:15 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Roman Neuhauser Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <20021210161215.GE1454@gothmog.gr> References: <200212090952.21853.pacman@huji.ac.il> <20021209202458.GB56031@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021209202458.GB56031@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-12-09 21:24, Roman Neuhauser wrote: > # pacman@huji.ac.il / 2002-12-09 09:52:21 +0200: > > Any one can explaind me why FreeBSD doesn't have the KERNEL stored under > > /boot? > > most probably historical reasons; it's under /boot in -CURRENT IIRC. Yep. Under 5.X the kernel and its associated modules live under a subdirectory of /boot, called /boot/kernel by default. Mind you, this is not mandatory or enforced by the boot loader (everything is configurable, and you can still tweak your configuration files to make the setup of 5.X look exactly like the one in 4.X). I'm just saying what the default is... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Dec 10 10: 6:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 992C837B401 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 10:06:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from scanmail2.cableone.net (scanmail2.cableone.net [24.116.0.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09EF043EBE for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 10:06:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from lute@cableone.net) Received: from scanmail2.cableone.net ([10.116.0.122]) by scanmail2.cableone.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.687.68); Tue, 10 Dec 2002 11:06:17 -0700 Received: from scanmail2.cableone.net [24.116.0.122] by scanmail2.cableone.net (SMTPD32-7.04) id AD183C2600A8; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 11:06:16 -0700 Received: from agnes (227-51.siocpe.cableone.net [24.116.227.51]) by mail.cableone.net with SMTP (MailShield v2.04 - WIN32 Jul 17 2001 17:12:42); Tue, 10 Dec 2002 11:06:16 -0700 Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 12:03:59 -0600 From: Lute Mullenix To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: your mail Message-Id: <20021210120359.278ba104.lute@cableone.net> In-Reply-To: <20021210161215.GE1454@gothmog.gr> References: <200212090952.21853.pacman@huji.ac.il> <20021209202458.GB56031@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> <20021210161215.GE1454@gothmog.gr> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.8.6claws (GTK+ 1.2.10; i386-portbld-freebsd4.7) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-SMTP-HELO: agnes X-SMTP-MAIL-FROM: lute@cableone.net X-SMTP-PEER-INFO: 227-51.siocpe.cableone.net [24.116.227.51] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This does have me wondering about one thing, when 5.0 comes out as RELEASE are we going to be able to do a "normal" upgrade, or are we going to have to do a full install? Sounding like there are going to be some pretty major changes in it. So far I have only done one upgrade, that was from 4.6 to 4.7 and that was just the binary upgrade, download the two floppies, boot, yada yada. Next go round would like to try a source upgrade, but it sounds kind of scary, though I do install all my software via the ports. (Mozilla takes a looong time to build) So maybe it won't be that bad, but just a little unsure about how you go about getting all the source needed. Lute ********************** Dual Boot: * FreeBSD 4.7 RELEASE * Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 * ********************** To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Dec 10 11: 3:19 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53AFB37B401 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 11:03:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bellavista.cz (mail.bellavista.cz [62.168.44.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A73AE43ED4 for ; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 11:03:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from neuhauser@bellavista.cz) Received: from freepuppy.bellavista.cz (freepuppy.bellavista.cz [10.0.0.10]) by mail.bellavista.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95AF35C; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 20:59:32 +0100 (CET) Received: by freepuppy.bellavista.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 1348F2FDAB2; Tue, 10 Dec 2002 20:03:14 +0100 (CET) Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2002 20:03:14 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: Lute Mullenix Cc: "freebsd-newbies @ FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: your mail Message-ID: <20021210190314.GK56031@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mail-Followup-To: Lute Mullenix , "freebsd-newbies @ FreeBSD. ORG" References: <200212090952.21853.pacman@huji.ac.il> <20021209202458.GB56031@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> <20021210161215.GE1454@gothmog.gr> <20021210120359.278ba104.lute@cableone.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20021210120359.278ba104.lute@cableone.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org # lute@cableone.net / 2002-12-10 12:03:59 -0600: > So far I have only done one upgrade, that was from 4.6 to 4.7 and that > was just the binary upgrade, download the two floppies, boot, yada > yada. Next go round would like to try a source upgrade, but it sounds > kind of scary, though I do install all my software via the ports. > (Mozilla takes a looong time to build) So maybe it won't be that bad, > but just a little unsure about how you go about getting all the source > needed. funny, I've never done a single binary update. :) anyway, cvsup setup is quite easy, and the reward is sweeeet: # cd /usr/src # make update # make buildworld buildkernel installkernell installworld # mergemaster -si # shutdown -r now (singleuser / reboot in documented places recommended for the faint of heart :) I don't know how hard/easy binary update is, but I guess it can't get much easier than this. 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ORG" Subject: gpm in freebsd Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:49:52 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Dec 2002 10:29:22.0125 (UTC) FILETIME=[2B797FD0:01C2A100] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In Linux you can use the gpm for simple but elegant operations : lt.click to select/copy and rt.click to paste . My FreeBSD4.6 install recognised my PS/2 mouse , and I can see the mouse pointer , but , what does freebsd's gpm use this mouse pointer for ? I shall greatly appreciate any help. Thanks, Shyam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Dec 11 2:27:46 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83E3137B401 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 02:27:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from eth.net (mailvs.eth.net [202.9.145.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB9F643E4A for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 02:27:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shyamk@eth.net) Received: from smtp-23.eth.net ([202.9.178.23] unverified) by eth.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:59:23 +0530 Received: from 202.9.167.170 by smtp-23.eth.net (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:59:58 +0530 Message-ID: <00a701c2a0ff$a9d66560$35a709ca@u4k8x8> From: "Shyam" To: "freebsd-newbies @ FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: mounting logical partitions + Slice Naming Conventions Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:54:18 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Dec 2002 10:29:23.0328 (UTC) FILETIME=[2C311000:01C2A100] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How do you mount logical partitions (some contain Windows' E: or F: ) some contain Linux's ext2 partitions? Linux sees the the FreeBSD / as /dev/hda3 , and as a primary partition All my Linux partitions are logical partitions . My second doubt is : how does BSD name its disks , partitions and slices ? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Shyam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Dec 11 2:28:29 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 776F037B401 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 02:28:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from eth.net (mailvs.eth.net [202.9.145.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BD9C43EC5 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 02:28:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shyamk@eth.net) Received: from smtp-23.eth.net ([202.9.178.23] unverified) by eth.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Wed, 11 Dec 2002 16:00:18 +0530 Received: from 202.9.167.170 by smtp-23.eth.net (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Wed, 11 Dec 2002 16:00:53 +0530 Message-ID: <00aa01c2a0ff$cb5bf060$35a709ca@u4k8x8> From: "Shyam" To: "freebsd-newbies @ FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: mounting logical partitions + Slice Naming Conventions Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:56:39 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Dec 2002 10:30:18.0343 (UTC) FILETIME=[4CFBAF70:01C2A100] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org How do you mount logical partitions (some contain Windows' E: or F: ) some contain Linux's ext2 partitions? Linux sees the the BSD's / as /dev/hda3 , and as a primary partition All my Linux partitions are logical partitions . My second doubt is : how does BSD name its disks , partitions and slices ? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Shyam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Dec 11 3: 8: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DAC0237B401 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 03:08:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D3F743EC5 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 03:08:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-a023.otenet.gr [212.205.215.23]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBBB7qOs000107; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 13:07:53 +0200 (EET) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBBB7peM016943; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 13:07:51 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBBB7dvt016934; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 13:07:39 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 13:07:39 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Shyam Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: gpm in freebsd Message-ID: <20021211110739.GA14855@gothmog.gr> References: <00a601c2a0ff$a960e740$35a709ca@u4k8x8> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <00a601c2a0ff$a960e740$35a709ca@u4k8x8> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-12-11 15:49, Shyam wrote: > In Linux you can use the gpm for simple but elegant operations : > lt.click to select/copy and rt.click to paste . > > My FreeBSD4.6 install recognised my PS/2 mouse , and I > can see the mouse pointer , but , what does freebsd's > gpm use this mouse pointer for ? FreeBSD uses the moused(8) to let you copy/paste text on virtual console terminals, just like gpm on linux. Pasting text is a bit different than the default behavior of gpm, since it's done with the "middle" button of the mouse when there are three buttons (or by pressing both buttons at the same time, for two-button mice). You can reconfigure the console support for moused to use two buttons by building a custom kernel that includes the option SC_TWOBUTTON_MOUSE. Try looking at the options listed in /usr/src/i386/conf/LINT for more details about the kernels options you can use with syscons, the FreeBSD console driver. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Dec 11 7:36:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0CB1037B404 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 07:36:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (f124.law8.hotmail.com [216.33.241.124]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D15943EC5 for ; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 07:36:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from dead_line@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 07:36:55 -0800 Received: from 195.226.230.37 by lw8fd.law8.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:36:55 GMT X-Originating-IP: [195.226.230.37] From: "Dead Line" To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Modem Configuration help please. Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2002 15:36:55 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 11 Dec 2002 15:36:55.0390 (UTC) FILETIME=[227A47E0:01C2A12B] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello everyone, Thank you for the great job you do. Im on FreeBSD 4.3-R, im trying to configure my modem, It cannot identify any device from cuaa* cuaa* works with External Serial USR. Modem. but the Modem Iam using is Internal Slot Card, How I can configure it? thro what device please? Thank you much. Marwan. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. 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Sign up today at: www.netzerolongdistance.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Dec 12 1:34:53 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1368337B401 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 01:34:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from comet.pacifier.com (new-comet.pacifier.com [216.65.150.155]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9899143EA9 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 01:34:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from rick@pacifier.com) Received: from rkwilson.com (ip160.usw7.rb1.pdx.nwlink.com [207.202.157.160]) by comet.pacifier.com (8.11.2/8.11.1) with ESMTP id gBC9YmZ01766 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 01:34:48 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" From: "Rick K. Wilson" To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: newbie question Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 01:35:40 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.4.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <200212120135.40880.rick@pacifier.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello All, I am currently running FreeBSD 4.7, and looked at the ports selection for= =20 recorder and came up with some. I installed them, and I get device busy:=20 /dev/audio. I went to /dev and saw that audio0.0 was 666, so I chmod to 777, and I ge= t the=20 same error message. How can I fix that, or is there a better program? I am using Creative AudioPCI ES1373 as my sound card. Thanks for any help. Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Dec 12 9:11:50 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 722FB37B401 for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 09:11:49 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.bellavista.cz (mail.bellavista.cz [62.168.44.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 950A643E4A for ; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 09:11:48 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from neuhauser@bellavista.cz) Received: from freepuppy.bellavista.cz (freepuppy.bellavista.cz [10.0.0.10]) by mail.bellavista.cz (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EA9E5D; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 19:08:11 +0100 (CET) Received: by freepuppy.bellavista.cz (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 574422FDAD7; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 18:11:41 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 18:11:41 +0100 From: Roman Neuhauser To: Kirk Bailey Cc: "freebsd-newbies @ FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: web script permissions Message-ID: <20021212171141.GI56031@freepuppy.bellavista.cz> Mail-Followup-To: Kirk Bailey , "freebsd-newbies @ FreeBSD. ORG" References: <3DF8168B.2040806@netzero.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <3DF8168B.2040806@netzero.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org # idiot1@netzero.net / 2002-12-11 23:54:35 -0500: > I want a web script to be aboe to create email lists- this means it > must be able to write to the aliases file, then issue the newaliases > command. These will NOT happen for the nobody id in my freebsd server, > only while I am in there as su. Any advice? Hi Kirk, you should ask questions like this one on questions@, and while we're at it, look in the archives, this comes up about twice a month, and I don't enjoy typing the same stuff over and over. :) -- If you cc me or remove the list(s) completely I'll most likely ignore your message. see http://www.eyrie.org./~eagle/faqs/questions.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Dec 12 18:52:59 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2850E37B401; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 18:52:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from nnm.ru (dial-b3-64-122.telepac.pt [213.13.64.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D02D443ED8; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 18:52:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sam486@front.ru) From: "sam486" Subject: пЕЛНМРШ ЙБЮПРХП FRYYGEKOGG Reply-To: sam486@front.ru X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Organization: sam486 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1251" Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 05:52:51 +0300 Message-Id: <20021213025242.D02D443ED8@mx1.FreeBSD.org> To: undisclosed-recipients: ; Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org оПЕДКЮЦЮЕЛ ЙНЛОКЕЙЯМШЕ ПЕЛНМРШ ЙБЮПРХП ОН ЯЮЛШЛ МХГЙХЛ ЖЕМЮЛ (НР 35 С.Е.). FRYYGEKOGGVEXWKKDIVHYOTTYQUQXHGKPSWMIR To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Dec 13 0:22:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3BDDF37B401 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 00:22:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from eth.net (mailvs.eth.net [202.9.145.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56BAD43ED4 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 00:22:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shyamk@eth.net) Received: from smtp-23.eth.net ([202.9.178.23] unverified) by eth.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:54:19 +0530 Received: from 202.9.167.205 by smtp-23.eth.net (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:54:54 +0530 Message-ID: <000901c2a280$815c0400$cda709ca@u4k8x8> From: "Shyam" To: "freebsd-newbies @ FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: FreeBSD MBR (boot0) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:49:16 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2002 08:24:20.0125 (UTC) FILETIME=[08C2A4D0:01C2A281] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org As of now , I use the lilo as my MBR.I wish to make /boot/boot0 able to take Windows from what Linux sees as /dev/hda1 Linux (sitting on a logical partition , ie : not on a primary , but , inside the extended - I guess , boot0 may be able to see or mount this) on what Linux calls /dev/hda7 and freeBSD on ad0s3 or what Linux calls /dev/hda3 and sees as a primary partition. What should I do and which conf file should I edit ? After boot0 is ready , I want to write him to the MBR. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Shyam To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Dec 13 1:12:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1747F37B401 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 01:12:22 -0800 (PST) Received: from moutng.kundenserver.de (moutng.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.171]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9CF643EB2 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 01:12:20 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from [212.227.126.162] (helo=mrelayng.kundenserver.de) by moutng.kundenserver.de with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18Mlrn-0000ne-00; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 10:12:19 +0100 Received: from [80.133.98.251] (helo=moritz.alleswirdgruener) by mrelayng.kundenserver.de with asmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18Mlrm-0004lC-00; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 10:12:18 +0100 Received: from moritz.alleswirdgruener (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by moritz.alleswirdgruener (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBCH4f90000196; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 18:04:52 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from uzs106@ibm.rhrz.uni-bonn.de) Received: from localhost (uzs106@localhost) by moritz.alleswirdgruener (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) with ESMTP id gBCGFawT001115; Thu, 12 Dec 2002 17:15:36 +0100 (CET) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 17:15:36 +0100 (CET) From: Heiko Recktenwald X-Sender: uzs106@localhost To: Shyam Cc: "freebsd-newbies @ FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: Re: mounting logical partitions + Slice Naming Conventions In-Reply-To: <00aa01c2a0ff$cb5bf060$35a709ca@u4k8x8> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > My second doubt is : how does BSD name its disks , partitions and slices ? I cant remeber either. Look in /stand/sysinstall, the is some menu that shows what you have on your system. H. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Dec 13 1:48:13 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2DA7837B401 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 01:48:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from eth.net (mailvs.eth.net [202.9.145.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 265C943E4A for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 01:48:06 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shyamk@eth.net) Received: from smtp-23.eth.net ([202.9.178.23] unverified) by eth.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 13 Dec 2002 15:20:02 +0530 Received: from 202.9.167.49 by smtp-23.eth.net (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 13 Dec 2002 15:20:38 +0530 Message-ID: <001b01c2a28c$800927c0$31a709ca@u4k8x8> From: "Shyam" To: "freebsd-newbies @ FreeBSD. ORG" References: <000901c2a280$815c0400$cda709ca@u4k8x8> <1039754118.50217.14.camel@p6m7g8.hyatsv01.md.comcast.net> Subject: Re: FreeBSD MBR (boot0) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 15:15:31 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2002 09:50:02.0484 (UTC) FILETIME=[01D85B40:01C2A28D] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I want the FreeBSD boot loader to offer this menu : F1 DOS F2 FreeBSD F3 Linux Default: F2 then I choose whichever OS I want and that OS boots . This is done by boot0 , but how to get it there ? Thanks, Shyam ----- Original Message ----- From: Philip M. Gollucci To: Shyam Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 10:05 AM Subject: Re: FreeBSD MBR (boot0) > I'm not quite sure what you mean here, but > I use grub as a boot loader: > snmp-linux > linux > freebsd > win2k > > All on ad4s1 > (the only hardrive in this computer. but on a promise ATA100 card) > > I might be able to help if you can clarify what you want to do. > > On Fri, 2002-12-13 at 08:19, Shyam wrote: > > As of now , I use the lilo as my MBR.I wish to make /boot/boot0 > > able to take Windows from what Linux sees as /dev/hda1 > > Linux (sitting on a logical partition , ie : not on a primary , > > but , inside the extended - I guess , boot0 may be able to see or > > mount this) on what Linux calls /dev/hda7 > > > > and freeBSD on ad0s3 or what Linux calls /dev/hda3 > > and sees as a primary partition. > > > > What should I do and which conf file should I edit ? > > After boot0 is ready , I want to write him to the MBR. > > > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > Shyam > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Dec 13 3:47:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1797537B404 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 03:47:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from eth.net (mailvs.eth.net [202.9.145.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A51B643E4A for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 03:47:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shyamk@eth.net) Received: from smtp-26 ([202.9.178.26] unverified) by eth.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:19:29 +0530 Received: from 202.9.167.72 by smtp-26 (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:18:25 +0530 Message-ID: <003901c2a29d$2fa4f460$48a709ca@u4k8x8> From: "Shyam" To: "freebsd-newbies @ FreeBSD. ORG" References: <20021213085201.15734.qmail@web13208.mail.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: FreeBSD MBR (boot0) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 17:15:50 +0530 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Dec 2002 11:49:29.0437 (UTC) FILETIME=[B1AE98D0:01C2A29D] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org It was about the FreeBSD boot loader , I wanted to try that out in preference to lilo or grub. Regards, Shyam ----- Original Message ----- From: sn To: Shyam Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 2:22 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD MBR (boot0) > hi > you can try grub instead of lilo ... > > --- Shyam wrote: > > As of now , I use the lilo as my MBR.I wish to make > > /boot/boot0 > > able to take Windows from what Linux sees as > > /dev/hda1 > > Linux (sitting on a logical partition , ie : not on > > a primary , > > but , inside the extended - I guess , boot0 may be > > able to see or > > mount this) on what Linux calls /dev/hda7 > > > > and freeBSD on ad0s3 or what Linux calls /dev/hda3 > > and sees as a primary partition. > > > > What should I do and which conf file should I edit ? > > After boot0 is ready , I want to write him to the > > MBR. > > > > Any help will be greatly appreciated. > > > > Thanks, > > Shyam > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of > > the message > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! 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Sign up now. > http://mailplus.yahoo.com > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Dec 13 12:39:37 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5058437B404 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:39:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DEE3643EB2 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 12:39:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b007.otenet.gr [195.167.121.135]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBDKdLQk012715; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 22:39:23 +0200 (EET) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBDKdAk3017575; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 22:39:20 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from keramida@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBDIvSAE016851; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 20:57:28 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 20:57:28 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Shyam Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD MBR (boot0) Message-ID: <20021213185728.GB16577@gothmog.gr> References: <20021213085201.15734.qmail@web13208.mail.yahoo.com> <003901c2a29d$2fa4f460$48a709ca@u4k8x8> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <003901c2a29d$2fa4f460$48a709ca@u4k8x8> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2002-12-13 17:15, Shyam wrote: > It was about the FreeBSD boot loader , I wanted to try that out > in preference to lilo or grub. Look at the manpage of boot0cfg. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Dec 13 19:10: 6 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A97CA37B401 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 404D343EA9 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (sue@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id gBE3A2x3003706 for ; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id gBE3A20D003705 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 13 Dec 2002 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 13 Dec 2002 19:10:02 -0800 (PST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200212140310.gBE3A20D003705@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Dec 14 4:30:57 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAA1A37B401 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2002 04:30:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from eth.net (mailvs.eth.net [202.9.145.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DCE043EC2 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2002 04:30:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shyamk@eth.net) Received: from smtp-26 ([202.9.178.26] unverified) by eth.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sat, 14 Dec 2002 18:02:39 +0530 Received: from 202.9.186.22 by smtp-26 (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Sat, 14 Dec 2002 18:01:35 +0530 Message-ID: <001501c2a36c$60c65000$16ba09ca@u4k8x8> Reply-To: "Shyam" From: "Shyam" To: "freebsd-newbies @ FreeBSD. ORG" Subject: SysRq on BSD ? Date: Sat, 14 Dec 2002 17:49:49 +0530 Organization: Poornashree,31/119,Edappally,Cochin - 682014 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Dec 2002 12:32:39.0750 (UTC) FILETIME=[E40ABE60:01C2A36C] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In Linux , you have the Magic keys Alt + SysRQ + s,u,b,o,u,t,.... This is useful especially where your system takes a long time to boot (obviously not expected on the Unixen) , probably due to some man-made errors. What corresponds to that on BSD ? Thanks, Shyam. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Dec 14 20:38:52 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5970C37B401 for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2002 20:38:48 -0800 (PST) Received: from eth.net (mailvs.eth.net [202.9.145.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6909F43E4A for ; Sat, 14 Dec 2002 20:38:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from shyamk@eth.net) Received: from smtp-23.eth.net ([202.9.178.23] unverified) by eth.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:10:35 +0530 Received: from 202.9.167.232 by smtp-23.eth.net (InterScan E-Mail VirusWall NT); Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:11:11 +0530 Message-ID: <001201c2a3f3$9967eae0$e8a709ca@u4k8x8> Reply-To: "Shyam" From: "Shyam" To: "freebsd-newbies @ FreeBSD. ORG" References: <001501c2a36c$60c65000$16ba09ca@u4k8x8> <20021214175243.GA36106@gothmog.gr> Subject: Re: SysRq on BSD ? Date: Sun, 15 Dec 2002 10:05:56 +0530 Organization: Poornashree,31/119,Edappally,Cochin - 682014 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Dec 2002 04:40:35.0453 (UTC) FILETIME=[1BDBC2D0:01C2A3F4] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org You would have to recompile the Linux kernel to support them , it is not a default option , in the default kernel that you get. They are basically meant for giving the Sys Admin , control over his system , when the kernel is taking (let me exaggerate ...) 2 days to boot . I think any Linux site would boast about having this topic either as a HOW-TO or a discussion. tldp.org is their documentation project , where you can get all HOW-TOs or I will just grab the documentation from Linux box marked underneath . Regards, Shyam _________( MAGIC SYSRQ KEY DOCUMENTATION v1.2 ------------------------------------ [Sat May 16 01:09:21 EDT 1998] * What is the magic SysRQ key? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ It is a 'magical' key combo you can hit which kernel will respond to regardless of whatever else it is doing, unless it is completely locked up. * How do I enable the magic SysRQ key? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You need to say "yes" to 'Magic SysRq key (CONFIG_MAGIC_SYSRQ)' when configuring the kernel. This option is only available in 2.1.x or later kernels. * How do I use the magic SysRQ key? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On x86 - You press the key combo 'ALT-SysRQ-'. Note - Some (older?) may not have a key labeled 'SysRQ'. The 'SysRQ' key is also known as the 'Print Screen' key. On SPARC - You press 'ALT-STOP-', I believe. On PowerPC - You press 'ALT-Print Screen-'. On other - If you know of the key combos for other architectures, please let me know so I can add them to this section. * What are the 'command' keys? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 'r' - Turns off keyboard raw mode and sets it to XLATE. 'k' - Kills all programs on the current virtual console. 'b' - Will immediately reboot the system without syncing or unmounting your disks. 'o' - Will shut your system off (if configured and supported). 's' - Will attempt to sync all mounted filesystems. 'u' - Will attempt to remount all mounted filesystems read-only. 'p' - Will dump the current registers and flags to your console. 't' - Will dump a list of current tasks and their information to your console. 'm' - Will dump current memory info to your console. '0'-'9' - Sets the console log level, controlling which kernel messages will be printed to your console. ('0', for example would make it so that only emergency messages like PANICs or OOPSes would make it to your console.) 'e' - Send a SIGTERM to all processes, except for init. 'i' - Send a SIGKILL to all processes, except for init. 'l' - Send a SIGKILL to all processes, INCLUDING init. (Your system will be non-functional after this.) * Okay, so what can I use them for? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Well, un'R'aw is very handy when your X server or a svgalib program crashes. sa'K' (system attention key) is useful when you want to exit a program that will not let you switch consoles. (For example, X or a svgalib program.) re'B'oot is good when you're unable to shut down. But you should also 'S'ync and 'U'mount first. 'S'ync is great when your system is locked up, it allows you to sync your disks and will certainly lessen the chance of data loss and fscking. Note that the sync hasn't taken place until you see the "OK" and "Done" appear on the screen. (If the kernel is really in strife, you may not ever get the OK or Done message...) 'U'mount is basically useful in the same ways as 'S'ync. I generally 'S'ync, 'U'mount, then re'B'oot when my system locks. It's saved me many a fsck. Again, the unmount (remount read-only) hasn't taken place until you see the "OK" and "Done" message appear on the screen. The loglevel'0'-'9' is useful when your console is being flooded with kernel messages you do not want to see. Setting '0' will prevent all but the most urgent kernel messages from reaching your console. (They will still be logged if syslogd/klogd are alive, though.) t'E'rm and k'I'll are useful if you have some sort of runaway process you are unable to kill any other way, especially if it's spawning other processes. * Sometimes SysRQ seems to get 'stuck' after using it, what can I do? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ That happens to me, also. I've found that tapping shift, alt, and control on both sides of the keyboard, and hitting an invalid sysrq sequence again will fix the problem. (ie, something like alt-sysrq-z). Switching to another virtual console (ALT+Fn) and then back again should also help. * I hit SysRQ, but nothing seems to happen, what's wrong? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ There are some keyboards which do not support 'SysRQ', you can try running 'showkey -s' and pressing SysRQ or alt-SysRQ to see if it generates any 0x54 codes. If it doesn't, you may define the magic sysrq sequence to a different key. Find the keycode with showkey, and change the define of '#define SYSRQ_KEY 0x54' in [/usr/src/linux/]include/asm/keyboard.h to the keycode of the key you wish to use, then recompile. Oh, and by the way, you exit 'showkey' by not typing anything for ten seconds. * I have more questions, who can I ask? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You may feel free to send email to myrdraal@deathsdoor.com, and I will respond as soon as possible. If that email address does not work, use myrdraal@jackalz.dyn.ml.org. -Myrdraal )_________________ ----- Original Message ----- From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Shyam Sent: Saturday, December 14, 2002 11:22 PM Subject: Re: SysRq on BSD ? > On 2002-12-14 17:49, Shyam wrote: > > In Linux , you have the Magic keys Alt + SysRQ + s,u,b,o,u,t,.... > > > > This is useful especially where your system takes a long time to > > boot (obviously not expected on the Unixen), probably due to some > > man-made errors. > > What are they for? I seem to remember they weren't there (or I didn't > know abou them) back in 1998 when I started using FreeBSD. > > Anywhere we could find a description of their use? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message