From owner-freebsd-qa Tue Jun 11 2:24:20 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from ns.webzdarma.cz (ns.webzdarma.cz [212.71.128.83]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EA93E37B40E for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 02:24:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 6148 invoked by uid 48); 11 Jun 2002 09:24:06 -0000 To: freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.org Subject: 4.6 Message-ID: <1023787446.3d05c1b6c47ce@mail.anoweb.cz> Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:24:06 +0200 (CEST) From: Liquid MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit User-Agent: IMP/PHP IMAP webmail program 2.2.6 X-Originating-IP: 194.228.6.36 Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Where will be on FTP FBSD 4.6? Thx. Liquid To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Tue Jun 11 14:43: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from scan.ji-net.com (scan.ji-net.com [203.130.156.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA22D37B40B for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: from net1.ji-net.com ([203.156.15.120]) by scan.ji-net.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id g5BLgwQ07589 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 04:42:58 +0700 Message-Id: <200206112142.g5BLgwQ07589@scan.ji-net.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 04:45:02 To: qa@FreeBSD.org From: goodhealthgoodjob@yahoo.com (foodforhealth) Subject: วันนี้คุณดูแลสุขภาพแล้วหรือยัง X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-perl11-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG แนะนำโปรแกรมควบคุมน้ำหนัก เพิ่มน้ำหนัก รักษาสุขภาพ คุณหรือคนที่คุณรักกำลังมองหาวิธีดูแลสุขภาพที่เป็นธรรมชาติอยู่ใช่ไหม? หากคุณเบื่อหน่ายกับความพยายามที่ไม่ประสบความสำเร็จครั้งแล้วครั้งเล่า ในการดูแลสุขภาพเพื่อรูปร่างที่ดี เรามีโปรแกรมโภชนาการเพื่อสุขภาพ ที่ช่วยคุณได้ สำหรับผู้ที่มีปัญหา น้ำหนักเกินหรืออ้วน, ผอมเกินไป, มีปัญหาสุขภาพ (ผอมแห้งแรงน้อย, พุงห้อยอืดอาด, ขาดความมั่นใจ, โรคภัยถามหา,ใบหน้าเป็นสิว, ผิวพรรณเหี่ยวย่น, คนเล่นกีฬา, คุณป้าวัยทอง, คุณน้องๆ ที่อยากสวย)เป็นผลิตภัณฑ์จากธรรมชาติ 100 % ไม่ใช่ยา ไม่ต้องอดอาหาร ไม่มีผลข้างเคียง ไม่ต้องออกกำลังกาย ฟังดูไม่น่าเชื่อแต่ก็ต้องเชื่อเพราะผ่าน อย.ทุกประเทศที่เข้าไปขายโดยเฉพาะประเทศไทยและอเมริกา ให้สารอาหารครบถ้วน ปรับสมดุลของร่างกายลดไขมันส่วนเกิน รับรองผลภายใน30วันด้วยระบบคืนเงิน100%(แพทย์ผู้คิดค้นอาหารสูตรนี้คือคนที่คิดค้นอาหารให้นักบินอวกาศองค์การนาซ่า) สนใจ ขอคำแนะนำเพิ่มเติมได้ที่ คุณสิริ 01-8901701พบคำตอบสุดท้ายของคุณได้ที่นี่ http://www.smartslender.com/foodforhealth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Tue Jun 11 14:51:26 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (rwcrmhc51.attbi.com [204.127.198.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E44D237B406 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:51:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc51.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020611215124.FRFZ11426.rwcrmhc51.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 21:51:24 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5BLpOlC021925; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:51:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g5BLpNvS021924; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:51:23 -0700 (PDT) From: "Bruce A. Mah" Message-Id: <200206112151.g5BLpNvS021924@intruder.bmah.org> To: Liquid Cc: freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.6 In-reply-to: <1023787446.3d05c1b6c47ce@mail.anoweb.cz> References: <1023787446.3d05c1b6c47ce@mail.anoweb.cz> Comments: In-reply-to Liquid message dated "Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:24:06 +0200." X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:51:23 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If memory serves me right, Liquid wrote: > Where will be on FTP FBSD 4.6? 4.6 will be available on all the usual mirror sites: http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/mirrors.html Please watch the Web site or freebsd-announce@ for the actual release announcement, when it happens. Bruce. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Tue Jun 11 16: 0:58 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from scan.ji-net.com (scan.ji-net.com [203.130.156.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BF9B37B440 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2002 16:00:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from net1.ji-net.com ([203.156.15.120]) by scan.ji-net.com (8.11.2/8.11.2) with SMTP id g5BN0RQ24998 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 06:00:27 +0700 Message-Id: <200206112300.g5BN0RQ24998@scan.ji-net.com> Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 06:02:30 To: freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.org From: goodhealthgoodjob@yahoo.com (foodforhealth) Subject: วันนี้คุณดูแลสุขภาพแล้วหรือยัง X-Virus-Scanned: by AMaViS-perl11-milter (http://amavis.org/) Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG แนะนำโปรแกรมควบคุมน้ำหนัก เพิ่มน้ำหนัก รักษาสุขภาพ คุณหรือคนที่คุณรักกำลังมองหาวิธีดูแลสุขภาพที่เป็นธรรมชาติอยู่ใช่ไหม? หากคุณเบื่อหน่ายกับความพยายามที่ไม่ประสบความสำเร็จครั้งแล้วครั้งเล่า ในการดูแลสุขภาพเพื่อรูปร่างที่ดี เรามีโปรแกรมโภชนาการเพื่อสุขภาพ ที่ช่วยคุณได้ สำหรับผู้ที่มีปัญหา น้ำหนักเกินหรืออ้วน, ผอมเกินไป, มีปัญหาสุขภาพ (ผอมแห้งแรงน้อย, พุงห้อยอืดอาด, ขาดความมั่นใจ, โรคภัยถามหา,ใบหน้าเป็นสิว, ผิวพรรณเหี่ยวย่น, คนเล่นกีฬา, คุณป้าวัยทอง, คุณน้องๆ ที่อยากสวย)เป็นผลิตภัณฑ์จากธรรมชาติ 100 % ไม่ใช่ยา ไม่ต้องอดอาหาร ไม่มีผลข้างเคียง ไม่ต้องออกกำลังกาย ฟังดูไม่น่าเชื่อแต่ก็ต้องเชื่อเพราะผ่าน อย.ทุกประเทศที่เข้าไปขายโดยเฉพาะประเทศไทยและอเมริกา ให้สารอาหารครบถ้วน ปรับสมดุลของร่างกายลดไขมันส่วนเกิน รับรองผลภายใน30วันด้วยระบบคืนเงิน100%(แพทย์ผู้คิดค้นอาหารสูตรนี้คือคนที่คิดค้นอาหารให้นักบินอวกาศองค์การนาซ่า) สนใจ ขอคำแนะนำเพิ่มเติมได้ที่ คุณสิริ 01-8901701พบคำตอบสุดท้ายของคุณได้ที่นี่ http://www.smartslender.com/foodforhealth To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Wed Jun 12 12:22:22 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from rtp-msg-core-1.cisco.com (rtp-msg-core-1.cisco.com [161.44.11.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6C51B37B407 for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:22:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: from goblet.cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rtp-msg-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g5CJMXwQ025233; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 15:22:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (bmcgover-pc.cisco.com [161.44.149.69]) by goblet.cisco.com (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id ABH03713; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 15:22:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5CJM2E74072; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 15:22:02 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bmcgover@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com) Message-Id: <200206121922.g5CJM2E74072@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com> To: Bo Xiao Cc: freebsd-users@cisco.com, qa@freebsd.org Subject: Re: 4.6 release and snapshots In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:08:22 PDT." Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 15:22:02 -0400 From: "Brian J. McGovern" Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I see a 4.6 mini ISO out there, which is basically 4.6 sans packages. However, my first attempt to download, burn and install gave me a CD that boot, but wouldn't install. I'm working on the second attempt now, and have verified the MD5 checksums. Ok... So the second attempt failed as well. I guess this is what I get for not being as involved as I have been in other releases due to personal issues :) Looks like 4.6, as it sits, is broken. It should probably be removed from the FTP sites. :) > Hi, > > Maybe this is the first time I am actually waiting > for a release(for the audio/vedio card on my new > amd box), I find the releasing process of 4.6 is > a great pain. Postponed from 6/1 to 6/8 to 6/10. > Now it is 6/12. Still not yet completely out. After > Jordan effect? > > Anyhow, I see 4.6 release on the main ftp site now > but no iso images yet. And no XFree86 link. Anybody > has idea of why, and naturally, when? > > A side question, snapshots used to be available ever > so often but releng4 doesnt allow anonymous ftp any > more. Are there still be any stable snapshots? > > It is a pain watching my new pc running 4.5 without > X. I will put on 4.6-RC2 tonight if 4.6 is still a > no go. :( Or maybe a source upgrade to 4.6. > > Great OS after all. > > Bo > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Wed Jun 12 20:31:25 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7358037B41A for ; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 20:31:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020613033121.LLRE1547.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 03:31:21 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5D3VKlC032647; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 20:31:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g5D3VJQr032646; Wed, 12 Jun 2002 20:31:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200206130331.g5D3VJQr032646@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5+ 20020506 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Brian J. McGovern" Cc: Bo Xiao , freebsd-users@cisco.com, qa@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: 4.6 release and snapshots In-reply-to: <200206121922.g5CJM2E74072@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com> References: <200206121922.g5CJM2E74072@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com> Comments: In-reply-to "Brian J. McGovern" message dated "Wed, 12 Jun 2002 15:22:02 -0400." From: bmah@FreeBSD.org (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.org X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 20:31:19 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG If memory serves me right, "Brian J. McGovern" wrote: > I see a 4.6 mini ISO out there, which is basically 4.6 sans packages. > > However, my first attempt to download, burn and install gave me a CD > that boot, but wouldn't install. I'm working on the second attempt now, and > have verified the MD5 checksums. > > Ok... So the second attempt failed as well. I guess this is what I get for > not being as involved as I have been in other releases due to personal > issues :) > > Looks like 4.6, as it sits, is broken. It should probably be removed from > the FTP sites. :) (Even when I worked at Cisco, I never knew which of the internal mailing lists could be posted to from outside, so Brian or Bo might need to forward this. "Hi" to everyone who remembers me.) I haven't grabbed the 4.6 mini-ISO yet, but I will soon. Four-fifths of the release engineering team (murray, rwatson, jhb, bmah) was at the FreeBSD Developer Summit at USENIX, which finished today. I know that murray had (is having) some problems getting the ISO images to ftp-master intact. The details make for a long, rambling saga that I won't bore people with...they involve a lack of bandwidth and CDRs that won't burn correctly. :-( I don't know if these problems could have affected the mini-ISO...my impression was "not". Bruce. PS. What symptoms of failure did you see with the mini-ISO? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Thu Jun 13 2:37:35 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com (mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com [212.74.114.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6347237B41D for ; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 02:37:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [212.139.129.125] (helo=bloodhound.uk.worldonline.com) by mk-smarthost-3.mail.uk.tiscali.com with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 17IR1P-000IFN-00; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:36:03 +0100 Received: from brian by bloodhound.uk.worldonline.com with local (Exim 4.04) id 17IR2o-0005IS-00; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:37:30 +0100 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:37:30 +0100 From: Brian Candler To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Cc: boxiao@cisco.com, bmcgover@cisco.com Subject: Re: 4.6 release and snapshots Message-ID: <20020613103730.A20295@linnet.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > However, my first attempt to download, burn and install gave me a CD > that boot, but wouldn't install. I'm working on the second attempt now, and > have verified the MD5 checksums. FWIW, I burnt this ISO last night and it installed problem-free on my Sony Vaio PCG-C1F. It did give an error that "the packages collection is not available on the distribution media you've chosen" [true of course], "most likely an FTP site without the packages collection mirrored. Please verify that your media, or your path to the media, is correct and try again." [not so helpful]. Hence at the end it said the "installation completed with some errors". But it boots and runs fine. I then used /stand/sysinstall to install X from the FTP site, since ports/i386/packages-4.6-release is available on there. Regards, Brian. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Thu Jun 13 7:23:16 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from rtp-msg-core-1.cisco.com (rtp-msg-core-1.cisco.com [161.44.11.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2196337B403; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 07:23:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: from goblet.cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rtp-msg-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g5DEIKC5012974; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:18:21 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (bmcgover-pc.cisco.com [161.44.149.69]) by goblet.cisco.com (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id ABH14673; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:17:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5DEHnH01397; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:17:49 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bmcgover@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com) Message-Id: <200206131417.g5DEHnH01397@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com> To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: "Brian J. McGovern" , Bo Xiao , freebsd-users@cisco.com, qa@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.6 release and snapshots In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 12 Jun 2002 20:31:19 PDT." <200206130331.g5D3VJQr032646@intruder.bmah.org> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:17:49 -0400 From: "Brian J. McGovern" Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > (Even when I worked at Cisco, I never knew which of the internal mailing > lists could be posted to from outside, so Brian or Bo might need to > forward this. "Hi" to everyone who remembers me.) Depends on the configuration in the mailer ;) > I haven't grabbed the 4.6 mini-ISO yet, but I will soon. Four-fifths of > the release engineering team (murray, rwatson, jhb, bmah) was at the > FreeBSD Developer Summit at USENIX, which finished today. Yeah, I'm bummed I missed out, but with "Cisco Frugality", I'm only making the ones in Boston these days, as I can drive from work daily. > I know that murray had (is having) some problems getting the ISO images > to ftp-master intact. The details make for a long, rambling saga that I > won't bore people with...they involve a lack of bandwidth and CDRs that > won't burn correctly. :-( I don't know if these problems could have > affected the mini-ISO...my impression was "not". Well, I'll be happy to open my resources up to Murray if I have anything that can help him out. > Bruce. > > PS. What symptoms of failure did you see with the mini-ISO? > The individual file kits tend to fail on what appears to be the second in the series, so bin.aa, for instance, seems to extract, but it fails with an error when trying to read in bin.ab. I don't remember the exact message, but its something like "Only able to read -1 bytes". If I get a chance today, I'll recreate it, and post the real error message. -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Thu Jun 13 10:39: 3 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (rwcrmhc53.attbi.com [204.127.198.39]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB4D737B414; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:38:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by rwcrmhc53.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020613173854.FLJQ11659.rwcrmhc53.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 17:38:54 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5DHcslC010221; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:38:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g5DHcsUv010220; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:38:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200206131738.g5DHcsUv010220@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5+ 20020506 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Brian J. McGovern" Cc: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, Bo Xiao , freebsd-users@cisco.com, qa@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.6 release and snapshots In-Reply-To: <200206131417.g5DEHnH01397@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com> References: <200206131417.g5DEHnH01397@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com> Comments: In-reply-to "Brian J. McGovern" message dated "Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:17:49 -0400." From: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_-866874566P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:38:54 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_-866874566P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, "Brian J. McGovern" wrote: > > (Even when I worked at Cisco, I never knew which of the internal mailing > > lists could be posted to from outside, so Brian or Bo might need to > > forward this. "Hi" to everyone who remembers me.) > > Depends on the configuration in the mailer ;) Oh. :-) > > I know that murray had (is having) some problems getting the ISO images > > to ftp-master intact. The details make for a long, rambling saga that I > > won't bore people with...they involve a lack of bandwidth and CDRs that > > won't burn correctly. :-( I don't know if these problems could have > > affected the mini-ISO...my impression was "not". > > Well, I'll be happy to open my resources up to Murray if I have anything that > can help him out. Thanks. In this case, the problem is being able to get lots of bits (the ISO images) from murray's workstation at home onto ftp-master. He's kind of bandwidth-challenged, so the plan was to burn the data to CDR for someone else to physically take to the co-lo facility where the FreeBSD cluster sits, to upload there, while murray went down to USENIX. Unfortunately, Murphy was hard at work the past 48 hours, and most of the MD5 checksums of the CDRs failed (despite having two copies of each ISO image). I imagine that murray is going to try this again. I'm told that the FTP install directory arrived intact, as well as all the packages. Brian already knows this, but for the benefit of others: A FreeBSD release isn't official until a PGP-signed announcement from one of the release engineers is posted to freebsd-announce@. It is theoretically possible (although extremely unlikely) that we might wipe outf all 4.6-related files and start over. So...I don't encourage using the 4.6 bits for any use other than testing, until a release announcement goes out. > > Bruce. > > > > PS. What symptoms of failure did you see with the mini-ISO? > > > > The individual file kits tend to fail on what appears to be the second in the > series, so bin.aa, for instance, seems to extract, but it fails with an error > when trying to read in bin.ab. I don't remember the exact message, but its > something like "Only able to read -1 bytes". If I get a chance today, I'll > recreate it, and post the real error message. Thanks, that'd be helpful. I just did an install to my scratch box from the miniinst ISO. Nothing out of the ordinary (except there was no INDEX file for packages, obviously). Could you also give some info on the disk and CDROM configuration (e.g. SCSI vs. ATA)? Just wondering if this might have something to do with the ata(4) problems that some people have reported. Cheers, Bruce. --==_Exmh_-866874566P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5+ 20020506 iD4DBQE9CNiu2MoxcVugUsMRAoY6AJjPtXIxwvSAlQK9aW4QTVd6cyQcAKDoCbk2 QGYTOCKwIs0YXyfMlZfWTQ== =fT3F -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_-866874566P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Thu Jun 13 11:45:40 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from rtp-msg-core-1.cisco.com (rtp-msg-core-1.cisco.com [161.44.11.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 56C6237B401; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 11:45:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: from goblet.cisco.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by rtp-msg-core-1.cisco.com (8.12.2/8.12.2) with ESMTP id g5DIgtcN006787; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 14:42:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (bmcgover-pc.cisco.com [161.44.149.69]) by goblet.cisco.com (Mirapoint) with ESMTP id ABH20429; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 14:42:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (localhost.cisco.com [127.0.0.1]) by bmcgover-pc.cisco.com (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id g5DIgPB00631; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 14:42:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from bmcgover@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com) Message-Id: <200206131842.g5DIgPB00631@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com> To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: "Brian J. McGovern" , Bo Xiao , freebsd-users@cisco.com, qa@FreeBSD.ORG, bmcgover@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com Subject: Re: 4.6 release and snapshots In-reply-to: Your message of "Thu, 13 Jun 2002 10:38:54 PDT." <200206131738.g5DHcsUv010220@intruder.bmah.org> Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 14:42:25 -0400 From: "Brian J. McGovern" Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG > --==_Exmh_-866874566P > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > If memory serves me right, "Brian J. McGovern" wrote: > > > (Even when I worked at Cisco, I never knew which of the internal mailin g > > > lists could be posted to from outside, so Brian or Bo might need to > > > forward this. "Hi" to everyone who remembers me.) > > > > Depends on the configuration in the mailer ;) > > Oh. :-) > > > > I know that murray had (is having) some problems getting the ISO images > > > to ftp-master intact. The details make for a long, rambling saga that I > > > won't bore people with...they involve a lack of bandwidth and CDRs that > > > won't burn correctly. :-( I don't know if these problems could have > > > affected the mini-ISO...my impression was "not". > > > > Well, I'll be happy to open my resources up to Murray if I have anything that > > can help him out. > > Thanks. In this case, the problem is being able to get lots of bits > (the ISO images) from murray's workstation at home onto ftp-master. > He's kind of bandwidth-challenged, so the plan was to burn the data to > CDR for someone else to physically take to the co-lo facility where the > FreeBSD cluster sits, to upload there, while murray went down to USENIX. > Unfortunately, Murphy was hard at work the past 48 hours, and most of > the MD5 checksums of the CDRs failed (despite having two copies of each > ISO image). I imagine that murray is going to try this again. > > I'm told that the FTP install directory arrived intact, as well as all > the packages. > > Brian already knows this, but for the benefit of others: A FreeBSD > release isn't official until a PGP-signed announcement from one of the > release engineers is posted to freebsd-announce@. It is theoretically > possible (although extremely unlikely) that we might wipe outf all > 4.6-related files and start over. So...I don't encourage using the 4.6 > bits for any use other than testing, until a release announcement goes > out. > > > > Bruce. > > > > > > PS. What symptoms of failure did you see with the mini-ISO? > > > > > > > The individual file kits tend to fail on what appears to be the second in the > > series, so bin.aa, for instance, seems to extract, but it fails with an er ror > > when trying to read in bin.ab. I don't remember the exact message, but its > > something like "Only able to read -1 bytes". If I get a chance today, I'll > > recreate it, and post the real error message. > > Thanks, that'd be helpful. I just did an install to my scratch box > from the miniinst ISO. Nothing out of the ordinary (except there was > no INDEX file for packages, obviously). > > Could you also give some info on the disk and CDROM configuration (e.g. > SCSI vs. ATA)? Just wondering if this might have something to do with > the ata(4) problems that some people have reported. Ok. The exact error information, which is reproducible is: 1.) On the "main" install screen, one sees: "Write failure on transfer! (wrote -1 bytes of 240640 bytes)" 2.) On the console screen, one sees: " [all the info on boot, newfs'ing, etc trimmed] /bin/cp /stand/gzip: : invalid stored block lengths bin/date /stand/cpio: invalid header: checksum error /stand/cpio: premature end of file " I was able to change the BIOS setting to boot/use the slave DVD burner (slave on secondary controller) to boot/install, rather than the normal CD player (master on secondary controller). Working with 5.0-DP1 and 4.5 works fine with the normal CD drive (master secondary controller), so I'm 95% certain its not the drive itself. However, I'll play with it some more to see. For extra drive info, the boot/FreeBSD Drive is an IDE as master on the primary controller. There is also a CD-RW and hard disk on an Adaptec 7892, but neither are used during the install. -Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Thu Jun 13 15:19:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Received: from sccrmhc02.attbi.com (sccrmhc02.attbi.com [204.127.202.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8EBB37B42C; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 15:18:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bmah.dyndns.org ([12.233.149.189]) by sccrmhc02.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020613221443.ISFQ1547.sccrmhc02.attbi.com@bmah.dyndns.org>; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 22:14:43 +0000 Received: from intruder.bmah.org (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by bmah.dyndns.org (8.12.3/8.12.3) with ESMTP id g5DMEhlC018482; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 15:14:43 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bmah@intruder.bmah.org) Received: (from bmah@localhost) by intruder.bmah.org (8.12.3/8.12.3/Submit) id g5DMEhIL018481; Thu, 13 Jun 2002 15:14:43 -0700 (PDT) Message-Id: <200206132214.g5DMEhIL018481@intruder.bmah.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5+ 20020506 with nmh-1.0.4 To: "Brian J. McGovern" Cc: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG, Bo Xiao , freebsd-users@cisco.com, qa@FreeBSD.ORG, bmcgover@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com Subject: Re: 4.6 release and snapshots In-Reply-To: <200206131842.g5DIgPB00631@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com> References: <200206131842.g5DIgPB00631@bmcgover-pc.cisco.com> Comments: In-reply-to "Brian J. McGovern" message dated "Thu, 13 Jun 2002 14:42:25 -0400." From: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG (Bruce A. Mah) Reply-To: bmah@FreeBSD.ORG X-Face: g~c`.{#4q0"(V*b#g[i~rXgm*w;:nMfz%_RZLma)UgGN&=j`5vXoU^@n5v4:OO)c["!w)nD/!!~e4Sj7LiT'6*wZ83454H""lb{CC%T37O!!'S$S&D}sem7I[A 2V%N&+ X-Image-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/Images/bmah-cisco-small.gif X-Url: http://www.employees.org/~bmah/ Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="==_Exmh_1620645375P"; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 15:14:43 -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG --==_Exmh_1620645375P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii If memory serves me right, "Brian J. McGovern" wrote: > Ok. The exact error information, which is reproducible is: > > 1.) On the "main" install screen, one sees: > > "Write failure on transfer! (wrote -1 bytes of 240640 bytes)" > > 2.) On the console screen, one sees: > > " > [all the info on boot, newfs'ing, etc trimmed] > > /bin/cp > /stand/gzip: : invalid stored block lengths > bin/date > /stand/cpio: invalid header: checksum error > /stand/cpio: premature end of file > > " Hmmm. Definitely not what I saw. Based on a real quick read of sysinstall (which, by the way, is not conducive to sanity), it looks like gzip is blowing up on the compressed stream coming from the CDROM (the stream being a compressed distribution). -1 is the return value from a write(2) call. This sounds like the data being read from the CDROM is being corrupted somehow. > I was able to change the BIOS setting to boot/use the slave DVD burner (slave > on secondary controller) to boot/install, rather than the normal CD player > (master on secondary controller). What do your devices probe as? Just for the record, I have: atapci0: port 0xffa0-0xffaf at device 31.1 on pci 0 ata0: at 0x1f0 irq 14 on atapci0 ata1: at 0x170 irq 15 on atapci0 [snip] ad0: 39266MB [79780/16/63] at ata0-master UDMA100 acd0: CD-RW at ata1-master PIO4 Also, do you know what speed (e.g. 16X) are your CDROM and CDRW drives? (I'm mostly a SCSI-type person, so I'm a little out of my area.) > Working with 5.0-DP1 and 4.5 works fine > with the normal CD drive (master secondary controller), so I'm 95% certain it > s > not the drive itself. However, I'll play with it some more to see. I would tend to agree with you on this point. The good news is that you're not alone...other people have seen problems using the ata(4) driver from 4.6 to read CDs. The bad news is that sos hasn't seen any problems of this sort and can't reproduce them. I think he's convinced that all the problems people are seeing with the ata(4) driver in 4-STABLE either come from pilot error, bad hardware, or bad media. > For extra drive info, the boot/FreeBSD Drive is an IDE as master on the > primary controller. There is also a CD-RW and hard disk on an Adaptec 7892, > but neither are used during the install. OK, sounds good, thanks. I'm not sure what else to try at this point. :-( Bruce. --==_Exmh_1620645375P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (FreeBSD) Comment: Exmh version 2.5+ 20020506 iD8DBQE9CRlS2MoxcVugUsMRAmU9AJ9TByFNmAbyGQdeoODeKxKaW3haxQCdEjj+ PqZyxK5VJd8CzYNSmG04FiY= =2MZj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --==_Exmh_1620645375P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-qa Sat Jun 15 15:52:27 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-qa@hub.freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A46337B414; Sat, 15 Jun 2002 15:52:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: (from johan@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.6/8.11.6) id g5FMqOZ90944; Sat, 15 Jun 2002 15:52:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from johan) Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 15:52:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Message-Id: <200206152252.g5FMqOZ90944@freefall.freebsd.org> To: johan@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: misc/37160: /stand/sysinstall coredumps when trying to load package data. Sender: owner-freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Synopsis: /stand/sysinstall coredumps when trying to load package data. Responsible-Changed-From-To: freebsd-bugs->freebsd-qa Responsible-Changed-By: johan Responsible-Changed-When: Sat Jun 15 15:50:19 PDT 2002 Responsible-Changed-Why: Over to maintainer group. http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=37160 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-qa" in the body of the message